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Programa que se emite en Onda Cero Madrid Sur todos los viernes a las 19:20 de la tarde. El Audi A6 e-tron marca un hito en la historia de la marca al ser su primera berlina totalmente eléctrica tras el lanzamiento de varios SUV eléctricos. Fiel al lema de Audi, está a la vanguardia de la técnica en carga, autonomía y tecnología. Desde su llegada en 1990, el Audi A6 ha evolucionado desde el legado del Audi 100, con versiones emblemáticas como el Allroad y el deportivo RS6. En esta nueva generación, coexistirá una versión de combustión con el mismo nombre. En los últimos dos años (2023-2024), Audi ha lanzado 20 nuevos modelos, algo inédito en una marca premium, lo que ha reducido la edad media de su gama a 1,2 años, frente a los 2,7 años de sus competidores. Con 126 años de historia, la firma sigue renovándose constantemente y, en los próximos meses, presentará los nuevos A6, Q3, Q5 PHEV, Q6 e-tron Sportback y una versión del Q4 40 e-tron con un precio inferior a 40.000 euros. El objetivo es claro: en 2027 Audi quiere tener un eléctrico en cada segmento clave del mercado. El A6 e-tron es el segundo modelo basado en la plataforma eléctrica premium PPE, estrenada con el Q6. Su aerodinámica es la mejor en la historia de Audi y la más eficiente del segmento con un Cx de 0.21. Mantiene los 4,93 metros de longitud de su equivalente de combustión, pero con una batalla ampliada a 2,95 metros. En diseño, destaca su Singleframe invertido, faros delgados y estilizados, un capó largo y poderoso, y llantas de al menos 20 pulgadas. Tiene puntos de carga en ambos lados y un diseño trasero con un difusor deportivo, faros tridimensionales y los aros iluminados, una primicia en Audi. En la versión Avant, la línea del techo es plana y el pilar C muy inclinado. En términos de espacio, ofrece un maletero de 502 litros, con un segundo maletero delantero de 27 litros para cables de carga. Su capacidad de remolque alcanza los 2.100 kg. Está disponible en 8 colores de carrocería y 8 diseños de llantas, incluyendo una de 19 pulgadas que mejora la autonomía en 7 km. La aerodinámica juega un papel clave, con una suspensión que se ajusta en modo Efficiency para reducir la resistencia al aire. La tecnología es protagonista con 5 ordenadores de a bordo, tres pantallas digitales: 11,9” para el cuadro de instrumentos, 14,5” para el MMI y más de 10” para el copiloto. Es el Audi con mayor nivel de insonorización y personalización, incorporando iluminación de última generación y un techo panorámico de hasta 2,1 m² con oscurecimiento graduable. Sus retrovisores virtuales de segunda generación mejoran la visibilidad y ahora son plegables. En cuanto a baterías, Audi ofrece una opción de 83 kWh y otra de 100 kWh, con arquitectura de 800V y un peso de 590 kg. Su carga ultrarrápida de 270 kW permite recuperar 310 km en solo 10 minutos y alcanzar autonomías de más de 700 km. Su ventaja frente a la competencia es que mantiene este pico de carga durante más tiempo. Las motorizaciones disponibles son: A6 e-tron (83 kWh, 625 km de autonomía, 285 CV, tracción trasera) – Desde 68.000€ Performance (100 kWh, 753 km de autonomía, 367 CV, tracción trasera) – Desde 88.000€ Quattro (100 kWh, 714 km de autonomía, 428 CV, tracción total) – Desde 94.000€ S6 e-tron (100 kWh, 600 km de autonomía, 503 CV, tracción total) – Desde 104.000€ Con una entrada de 14.000 euros, las cuotas arrancan desde 465€/mes. Además, puede equipar suspensión neumática, que ajusta la altura en -18 mm delante y -25 mm detrás, y ofrece modos de conducción Balanced, Dynamic, Comfort y Efficiency. La gama se simplifica con tres acabados: Advanced, S Line y Black Line, y dos paquetes opcionales: Confort (3.100€) y Premium (3.900€). Con el A6 e-tron, Audi demuestra que su compromiso con la electrificación no solo es ambicioso, sino también innovador. En cuanto al estudio Bosch Tech Compass 2024 revela que el 66% de los españoles considera la inteligencia artificial (IA) fundamental para el desarrollo del país en la próxima década. Además, el 72% cree que la tecnología en general mejora el mundo, y el 69% la percibe como una herramienta clave en la lucha contra el cambio climático. A pesar de la falta de formación formal, más de la mitad de los encuestados se está formando por su cuenta en IA, lo que muestra un creciente interés por adquirir competencias en esta área. Sin embargo, junto con los beneficios percibidos, también existen preocupaciones significativas. El 60% de los españoles teme que la IA pueda suponer una amenaza para sus empleos, una preocupación más alta que en otros países. Además, los ciberataques y la falta de protección de datos destacan como amenazas importantes derivadas del avance tecnológico. A pesar de esto, el 61% de los trabajadores ya utiliza herramientas de IA, aunque solo una cuarta parte ha recibido formación específica en sus empresas. El estudio también subraya la necesidad de una mayor inversión en formación. El 56% de los encuestados cree que los centros educativos no están preparando adecuadamente a los estudiantes para el futuro mercado laboral en IA, y el 64% opina que debería incluirse una asignatura de IA en la educación básica. Además, el 80% de los españoles considera esencial la creación de un código ético para regular el uso de la IA en distintos sectores. Finalmente, el informe destaca que sectores como la robótica, la salud, el comercio electrónico y la fabricación son prioritarios para el desarrollo de la IA en España. El 80% de los encuestados cree que la IA es clave para mejorar la productividad del país, y el 58% se siente mejor preparado que la media global para la era de la IA. Sin embargo, el informe concluye que para aprovechar plenamente el potencial de la tecnología, es fundamental seguir invirtiendo en formación, innovación y políticas públicas que aseguren un uso ético y sostenible de la IA. Todos los podcast: https://www.podcastmotor.es Twitter: @AutoFmRadio Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/autofmradio/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AutoFM Contacto: info@autofm.es

„Allroad“ steht für: ein Rad für fast alle Bedingungen und Untergründe – Asphalt und Schotter, Komfort und Speed. Das perfekte Rad für dein nächstes Abenteuer. Christian Thill von Bergamont zeigt die Philosophie und gibt Kauftipps.

En este episodio no entramos a describir todos los detalles de la nueva Specialized Epic World Cup (para eso tenemos otros episodio completo, video en YouTube y reportaje en la web). Hemos preferido debatir y charlar sobre el posicionamiento de la bici, sobre algunas de sus peculiaridades o sus similitudes con la Trek Supercaliber, También hablamos de un concepto muy interesante como es la Lapierre Pulsium Allroad, una bici entre el concepto “gran fondo” y el grave. Una bici que, sin duda, tenemos que probar. Otro de los grandes lanzamiento de la semana ha sido la nueva Emonda ALR. Una de esas bicis que nos gustan simplemente por su planteamiento: rendimiento, calidad y precio interesante. Además, es la constatación de que el aluminio todavía tiene mucho que aportar en el ciclismo de carretera. Y otra de las noticias esperadas de las últimas semanas era el estudio de AMBE sobre las ventas de bicicletas de 2022. Muchos lo esperaban con temor. Analizamos algunos de sus “titulares”. También comentamos otras noticias como la presentación del motor para ebikes de Mavic o el lanzamiento de la nueva gama Fox Float de amortiguadores. Más información sobre estos temas en: Test y análisis de la Specialized Epic World Cup: https://www.mtbpro.es/afondo/specialized-epic-world-cup Lapierre Pulsium AllRoad, con dos montajes en carbono -uno de ellos con sistema SAT- para ir más allá del asfalto: https://www.maillotmag.com/actualidad/lapierre-pulsium-allroad-con-dos-montajes-en-carbono-uno-de-ellos-con-sistema-sat-para Nueva Trek Émonda ALR 2023: el aluminio sigue vivo: https://www.maillotmag.com/actualidad/nueva-trek-emonda-alr-2023-el-aluminio-sigue-vivo Las ventas de bicicletas en España siguen mejorando los datos pre-pandemia, pero caen un 13,59% en 2022: https://www.mtbpro.es/actualidad/las-ventas-de-bicicletas-en-espana-caen-un-1359-en-2022-con-descenso-del-mtb-convencional Llegan los renovados amortiguadores Fox Float, incluido el Float SL, especialmente diseñado para el XC más exigente: https://www.mtbpro.es/actualidad/llegan-los-renovados-amortiguadores-fox-float-incluido-el-float-sl-especialmente-disenado Mavic vuelve a la carga con un motor para e-bikes de carretera y gravel, el Mavic X-Tend ¿El más ligero del mercado?: https://www.maillotmag.com/actualidad/mavic-vuelve-la-carga-con-un-motor-para-e-bikes-de-carretera-y-gravel-el-mavic-x-tend-el

In Episode 435 seht ihr den Test eines Corratec Allroad C1 Gravelbikes. Außerdem zeigen wir euch einen Bericht vom Mediterranean Epic Etappenrennen und ein Gewinnspiel wartet ebenfalls.

Wenn wir über den Audi A4 allroad quattro sprechen, dann müssen wir zunächst mal anmerken, dass es sich um einen Avant handelt, also einen Kombi. Vom „normalen“ Avant unterscheidet er sich durch charakteristische Details wie die Stoßfänger an Front und Heck, die breiten Radlaufblenden und die erhöhte Dachreling. Gegenüber dem Audi A4 Avant gibt es vergrößerte Räder und 35 Millimeter mehr Bodenfreiheit. Darum geht es diesmal!Wenn ein Audi in seinem Namen den Zusatz „S tronic“ trägt, dann weiß ich, dass mich ein entspanntes Fahren ohne unnötige Schaltarbeiten erwartet.  Eine S tronic ist ein Doppelkupplungsgetriebe, das den Komfort einer Automatik mit der Effizienz eines Schaltgetriebes verbindet. Sie hat das in unserem Testfahrzeug, einem Audi A4 allroad quattro 40 TDI mit Bravour bewiesen. Power und Drive!    Bleiben wir noch einen Moment bei der S tronic. Es gibt sie mit sechs oder sieben Gängen, im A4 allroad quattro 40 TDI sind aller guten Dinge sieben! Das macht angesichts der Leistung von 150 kW (204 PS) auch Sinn. Diese Leistungsausbeute pusht den allroad quattro 40 TDI in 7,3 Sekunden von 0-100 km/h. Auch wenn man heutzutage kaum noch Spitzengeschwindigkeiten fahren kann, ich will sie trotzdem nennen. Es sind 232 km/h. Und man ist in jedem Geschwindigkeitsbereich angenehm unterwegs, nicht nur dank der S tronic, sondern auch wegen des Gesamtfahrverhaltens.  Verbrauchsseitig kommt der Wagen mit 5,7 – 6,2l Diesel im kombinierten Fahrzyklus nach WLTP 100 Kilometer weit bei CO2-Emissionen von 150 bis 162 g/km. Die Innenausstattung!Bleiben wir mal beim angenehmen Unterwegs-sein und greifen mal ein paar Highlights heraus. Und Light ist da ein gutes Stichwort. Der Allroad quattro ist mit Scheinwerfern in LED-Technologie unterwegs, zu denen auch Allwetterlicht gehört. Diese Technik reduziert die Eigenblendung bei schlechten Sichtverhältnissen und bietet eine breitere Ausleuchtung als Nebelscheinwerfer bei gleichzeitig vierfacher Reichweite. Eine Geschwindigkeitsregelanlage mit Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzer ist ebenso serienmäßig an Bord wie die elektrisch öffnende und schließende Gepäckraumklappe. Leider kann ich Ihnen in der Kürze unserer Sendezeit nicht die komplette Ausstattung nahebringen, schauen Sie einfach mal in die Ausstattungskiste! Die Kosten!Um den Preis des Audi A4 allroad quattro 40 TDI richtig einzuordnen, muss man zum einen berücksichtigen, dass wir von einem Kombi sprechen, zum anderen, dass er serienmäßig mit Allradantrieb geliefert wird. Somit ist der Preis von 52.450,– Euro durchaus angemessen. Und man bekommt schließlich nicht nur einen gut ausgestatteten Kombi. Man bekommt auch jede Menge Fahrspaß inklusive. Alle Fotos: ©  Audi AG   Diesen Beitrag können Sie nachhören oder downloaden unter:

In this week's episode, unfortunately we did not watch a car movie. We did, however, watch Tokyo Drift, and discuss the Fast and the Furious franchise et al. Following a tangent into our video game console history and Sniper Elite 5, AJ tells us about a crazy driver he witnessed firsthand. We wrap up the first half with a discussion of how bad gear oil smells, and then vanity license plates - often times a phrase, inside joke, family name, etc. California in particular has a bot on Twitter that posts requests people have made, and whether they were approved or denied. We discuss. In the second half, we talk about the 100 car pile up in Denver. Adam floats the idea of an engine swap into the Allroad. And we round out the episode with car and movie-based trivia. Can you guess the movie based on the car? Or the car based on the movie? --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

Americans (and the rest of the world) love the practicality of SUVs and crossovers. The 2023 Audi A6 Allroad has that plus the performance of a sport sedan since it's a wagon. And since everyone and their mother is driving SUVs, the Allroad makes a style statement. Tom Voelk checks out a well-equipped Prestige model that goes for nearly $82K. Pro tip- the base Premium model has nearly all the “Audiness” you need.

In this week's episode, we're all over the place in the first half. From Halloween to heating up fish in one's office, nothing is off limits. Our movie this week - Ernest Scared Stupid, a Halloween classic? Not really. Bruce talks about his almost run in with law enforcement. Adam ironically had a close run in as well, as well as random speed traps all in one day. And a quick update on a certain Allroad's warranty replacement of it's AWD clutch - part of Audi's Quattro Ultra platform. In the second half, we talk news. From the lazy recall performed on GMC Terrains, to VW changing course on their capacitive steering wheel buttons. A solid discussion of the Hummer EV, where it's used prices have plummeted almost $65,000 in a four month period. The price of being first? And then AJ brings up a long stretch of weird car features and we try to guess the car(s) owned by various rappers and musicians. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In the first half of this week's episode, AJ tells us about his trip down south. Be sure to ask him what shoulders are for. Our movie this week - 1982's cult classic The Thing. It's October/Halloween season afterall. Adam has been experiencing road rage this past week, he talks about why, in addition to wrapping up the Allroad's suspension retrofit. Bruce criticizes the lack of a Thule on his ride though. Big news out of Michigan - Carvana, the car vending machine company, is in deep trouble. In the second half, we talk about last week's episode and how it was the epitome of lack of effort - sorry folks. California draws our ire, when the owner of a Hyundai Elantra N owner gets a ticket for driving in N mode, and breaks Cali's exhaust loudness laws - despite being completely stock. Another reason the state is a nightmare for car enthusiasts. Also in the news, a Tesla goes 1600 miles without charging. How is that possible? And AJ brings up the end of the episode with some factoids and how technology has been driving car design trends. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, it's officially October! Bring on the pumpkin spice lattes, fall foliage, and Halloween. In the first half this week, we're off the rails most of the time. From discussing the virtues of Thanksgiving, to the virtues of capital punishment - no topics are out of bounds. Our movie this week - Hocus Pocus 2. Audi's headlights are getting crazy, Coolio crosses the rainbow bridge, and AJ and Adam experience a fool at a Denny's. Adam gets his expensive suspension upgrade for the Allroad, only to find the two rear shocks are destroyed by UPS. Mercedes shows off a fully touchscreen'ed out concept car, and we discuss haptic vs. touch interfaces. In the second half, Adam talks some more about his suspension woes. The TV show scrubs comes up, and a Dodge commercial Adam saw twice in the same week - but with a slight difference? AJ brings us a list that would make technicians cry - parts that are notoriously inconvenient to service. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, we binge watch all 10 episodes of Netflix's Edgerunners before recording. It's also been a little cold out. Adam talks about his wild weekend of driving. From the epic VW and Audi show called Waterfest in NJ, to the Flight 93 memorial the following day in PA. He put about 1000 miles on the RS4 and talks about the awesome trip. In the second half, AJ brings us news of the Railway Labor Union's strike coming to an end. We talk all the details. And finally Adam talks another big huge expensive project he's undertaking soon - retrofitting the Euro-spec B9 Avant Sport Adaptive Suspension to his Allroad. We round out the second half with some trivia, and a sneak peak into next week's discussion of the tragic limo accident that happened in NY in 2018. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, we three experience the Big Money Waste firsthand before recording. Adam goes to Connecticut for a Cars & Coffee put on by Hoffman Audi of New London, the A4 B9 Performance Facebook group, and several other groups. He took the Allroad and had a blast, both on the drive there and back, and at the event itself. Here's to making it an annual event! Our movie this week - The Cable Guy, and we don't mean Larry. In the news, Dodge is ending production of the Challenger and Charger, John Deere gets the Apple treatment and gets jailbroken, Google is beginning to roll out a new feature to Android Auto, and traffic fatalities are on the rise. Can we guess why? In the second half, are we seeing an increase of 2022 model year failures because of the chip shortage? And then AJ whips out some hand-picked trivia for us to feast on. The most uncharacteristic of which - he uses a wrong word? --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, it's fricken hot out! Before recording this episode, Adam discovered the tail lights on his Allroad were all jacked up. The car was at the dealership a week ago for a couple recalls, and it looks like they reprogrammed a module back to factory settings - woops. Our movie this week - Lake Placid. Honda unveils the new Civic Type R. A more mild look aesthetically, which can almost guarantee wider acceptance assuming the performance stays the same or better. AJ brings us the Cadillac Celestiq, a $300,000 luxury EV. A new bridge in LA gets broken in by some boneheads, the NHTSA OK's manufacturers to sell replicas of cars older than 25 years old, and BMW issues a statement on their subscription model. In the second half, AJ brings us a melding of two topics - cars and names. What are certain manufacturer's naming conventions? What makes have the most interesting names? We discuss the origin of the word Jeep - is it from the military "GP" or is it from the cartoon Popeye? How car parts got their name. And a brief discussion on how car parts differ in name overseas. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, Bruce see's a Fiero and a 3000 GT. Adam brings the Allroad to the dealer for a recall, only to learn his year old tires are almost bald. What? His loaner, a 2022 Audi Q5 get's a brief review. BMW upsets the car world with the concept of offering car convenience features for a monthly cost. Heated seats? Might be $15 per month. Adam actually defends the idea. The new Ford F-150 Lightning tries to charge itself. 2022 Toyota Tundras get recalled. In the second half, we'll keep it short and simple - we try to guess car stereotypes, and then we try to diagnose some stuff. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, the truth comes out about Adam's feelings on the Twilight series. Bruce offers his opinion. AJ gets the brakes fixed on his Subaru Forester. Our movie this week - The Accountant. It's like Batman with autism (no joke). Adam get's a Thule roof box for his Allroad. And for the first half, we majorly discuss "Sovereign Citizens" - what they are and why they're nuts. In the second half, the correlation between wolves and cars. A man is sued when a mechanic at a dealership, who can't drive manual, unintentionally kills a coworker. Copyrights and the infamous Ford Mustang Eleanor. Audi and Porsche are joining Formula 1! Broncos be dropping valves, Fusion Sports be dropping oil, Supras be getting manuel transmissions. We round out this week with trivia in the form of matching the epic car collection to the richie rich that owns them, and then we try to guess the celebrity's car and discuss whether it's a good fit. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

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In this week's episode, we start the first half by getting our regular Muskla talk out of the way immediately. The weather is looking like it'll be trash this week - mid-April and snow? Really? Our movie this week was 2002's The Mothman Prophecies, where we got to witness the floating physics of cars. Honda issues a cease and desist for 3D-printed car parts. Toyota decides the Supra needs a third pedal (noice). Hyundai and Kia are being targeted by a lawsuit regarding their engine's excessive oil consumption. We round out the first half with a post from Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/u0hizo/_/) or what incorrect assumptions about cars have you heard non car people make? In the second half, Adam talks about what he had planned for the Allroad (which didn't end up happening) including cabin air filter, brake flush again, engine air filter cleaning, and possibly an oil change. AJ then quizzes Bruce and Adam on their car knowledge, starting with technical questions, followed up by guessing some haikus, and ending with some general questions. Adam remembers the big topic he wanted to bring up - New York's SLEEP Act, or "Stop Loud and Excessive Exhaust Pollution" ACT. NY's latest attempt at reigning in excessive exhaust noise. Yeah. Really. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, we all offer an update on how the past week went. Bruce had hydraulic line issues on his truck, Adam's brakes might have air in the line still, and AJ doesn't want us to talk about Will Smith. Besides the slap heard around the world, we talk about our upcoming return to Watkins Glen for the 2022 Opening Weekend. This spawns discussion as to whether a certain RS4 or Allroad will be making the trip. We round out the first half with some empassioned car video game talk. In the second half, a bunch of news. From Audi's "paywalled" HVAC functions in the new e-tron, to Audi and Porsche possibly joining Formula 1, to Tavarish finally making the Hellcat Pacifica a thing (why tho?). We play a game of mad libs, and then AJ brings us a solid few rounds of trivia surrounding car statistics. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

Behold! Our one year anniversary, amazing how time flies ain't it? In this episode, Bruce brings a new truck to the table. The weather went from pretty okay to garbage in pure Central NY fashion. Adam goes into detail about his no good, dirty rotten weekend doing the S5 brake retrofit on his Allroad. In better news, the Watkins Glen Opening Weekend 2022 is on the horizon - and we will probably be attending. Our movie this week was 1995's Clueless, as if. Then we segue into AJ's no good, dirty rotten weekend as well. Please people, have some consideration for your fellow drivers when you're out and about. In Part Dos, gas prices are still elevated, but we think they're coming down? Then, a critical look at the awful design of seemingly every Dunkin Donuts drive-thru ever. AJ brings us some dealership talk, from their dwindling inventory which is presumably chip shortage related, dealership markups that are out of control, and sales people that ya just can't trust. But speaking of untrustworthy shops, Adam has nothing but great things to say about A&K again - they helped tremendously with the Allroad. And finally, the worst traffic accidents on record, and more car anagrams. As always, we're looking to interview regular car owners! Hit us up! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

This week, we three talk about the wondrous weather we had last week. Adam plans on doing the brake project on his Allroad, replacing the standard four-pot calipers with Akebono six-pot calipers in bright red, off of a 2019 S5. Will the project go as planned? Our movie this week was The Addam's Family, where Bruce's glee was on full display. The chip shortage is leading Ford to not include rear climate controls in their Explorers. And some more gas price discussion. In the second half, we talk about modifications people do to cars that should never happen - from stick on reflectors to fake caliper covers. If it's on our list, please don't do it. Subaru dropped a bombshell regarding the STI. The world will test negative, at least for a bit. And finally, AJ brings us a could great bits of trivia. Car model anagrams - phrases made up of all the letters in another phrase. And car acronyms - ABS? CVT? ESP? See if you're as up on your lingo as we are (or aren't). --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, we offer our thoughts on the biggest trend in the media - soaring gas prices. Bruce doesn't drive, so he doesn't care, but Adam and AJ do and they still don't care. Our movie this week - 1988's Beetlejuice. AJ asks a good question - what's the most and least comfortable cars we've even ridden in. Ford is suspiciously up there. We talk about how Chevrolet is really biffing it at their offroad offerings. In the second half, Adam gives us an update on the Allroad's brakes and asks some questions of his own. This leads into a major discussion about one of us getting a ticket. A ticket that really appears to be a blatant money grab. What do you think? AJ brings us this week's trivia in the form of having us guess the notable car person. From owners, designers, engineers, and journalists, we try to guess 'em. Finally, we talk about what makes a gasoline engine different from a diesel, and just how much faith we should put in Kelley Blue Books. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, our thoughts are with those in the Ukraine first and foremost. Our movie this week, the car-centric Zootopia. We've got February's PetrolBox to open and review as well. The cargo ship in the Atlantic is still burning, and it turns out Lamborghini is restarting Aventador production following the fire. We discuss more Elon Musk shenanigans, then move on to discuss a game we all got back into - Cyberpunk 2077. In the second half, Yamaha is producing a 450 HP hydrogen V8 that might shake up the alternative fuels industry. Adam gives us an update on the Allroad's tail lights and suspension. And then AJ brings out some car jokes and car lingo in other languages. PS! We're looking to interview you! If you have a car - whether it be a racecar, shitbox, daily driver, domestic, foreign, or exotic - we've got questions for you. Hit us up on our social media channels or via email if you're interested in having a chat with us! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode - we talk about the Super Bowl car commercials and whether they hit or missed their mark. Our movie this week, 1982's "The Secret of NIMH" which was chock-full of cars obviously. Adam brings us some garbage that New York City is up to - enforcing exhaust sound levels by autonomously recording audio and images of your car and sending letters. We also discuss the news that corn-based ethanol production in the US is actually worse for the environment than gasoline. Not ethanol itself, mind you, but the costs associated with producing ethanol from corn. Adam also talks various engine designs over the years, from single-cylinders, to VR6s, to W12s. Also we talk about the cargo ship in the Atlantic that is ablaze while carrying VWs and Porsches. In the second half, a certain Allroad is definitely not getting Bilstein coilovers. Bruce trashes Elon Musk's various endeavors. AJ brings us the history of Super Bowl car commercials followed up by the cheapest cars you can buy brand new today. We round out the episode with your weekly dose of car trivia. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In the first half of this week's episode, bring you some news regarding Lincoln pushing back their EV offerings, as well as covering Elon Musk's gradual progression into evil villain territory (Neuralink abusing monkeys). Our movie this week? 2003's The Rundown, staring The "Dwayne Johnson" Rock, while he still had hair. The bigger discussion in this half - Adam talks about the Allroad's suspension and what problems he's been having. Will it be resolved by going to Bilstein coilovers? Or is going to OEM Avant suspension parts a better option? We continue on to more Tesla talk, from Elon buying Mercedes (?), to the new Plaid having a four-motor setup (??), to the Boombox feature being recalled, to The Tesla Phone (???). In the second half, Bezos is also progressing into evil villain territory (or is already there) with the dismantling of an antique bridge in the Netherlands. But more importantly, a message from one of our dedicated listeners King - automated car washes might not be a good idea if you're ceramic coated. Good information if you made the investment in such a thing, for sure! Bruce brings some more news of Hyundai and Tesla (noticing a trend here). Adam brings us his thoughts on the 2022 Syracuse Auto Expo. And finally, AJ brings us a boatload of trivia/whatnot. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

Winter sucks, snow sucks, slush sucks, ice sucks, and we all felt that sentiment after this week in NY. In the first half this week, we talk about our experiences out on the road. Adam's love for Audis and his Allroad is reaffirmed. Our movie this week? 2008's RocknRolla, a Guy Ritchie film that is basically what you'd expect. Then we talk about some news from this past week - Tesla's rolling stop and video game functionality has caught the attention of the NHTSA, as well as a snow plow in Ohio throwing ice and snow into oncoming traffic. Then we discuss Germany's Autobahn, a recent Bugatti that broke 259 MPH on it, and what it all means. In Part 2, we talk some more about the interesting Omega 1 rotary-ish engine we mentioned last episode. Mazda's patent for a new supercharged two-stroke engine. A long talk about conventional internal combustion engines, and since EVs are staring manufacturers down something hard now, what that means for the ICE in the years to come. And finally, AJ brings us some trivia but doesn't actually ask us to answer any of it? Car superstitions, F1 driver lucky charms, and things we ourselves are superstitious of? --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

Welcome back to TFLtalk! We have one tip for you with the cars Roman and Nathan discuss in this podcast: AVOID. In this episode, they cover the top 10 used cars you should never, ever buy.

La naissance de la Jeep Cherokee doit beaucoup au fait que le groupe American Motors Corporation, propriétaire de la marque Jeep depuis 1970 (qui l'avait, lui-même, racheté au groupe Kaiser qui l'avait acquis en 1954), était lui-même devenu la propriété de Renault en 1980. A retrouver sur https://www.retropassionautomobiles.fr/2022/01/jeep-cherokee-xj-little-big-american-allroad/

La naissance de la Jeep Cherokee doit beaucoup au fait que le groupe American Motors Corporation, propriétaire de la marque Jeep depuis 1970 (qui l'avait, lui-même, racheté au groupe Kaiser qui l'avait acquis en 1954), était lui-même devenu la propriété de Renault en 1980. A retrouver sur https://www.retropassionautomobiles.fr/2022/01/jeep-cherokee-xj-little-big-american-allroad/

Episode 41 is here, and Adam humbly apologizes for forgetting to turn his mic on. Again. In this episode, our movie of the week is 2009's Zombieland. Lots of SUVs were sacrificed in the making of this film. We talk about the controversial Time Person of the Year and their tech-company-that-totally-isn't-a-car-company company. Things in cars that used to be all the rage, that now the public doesn't care about. Toyota's move to turn remote start keyfobs into a subscription-based offering. And are NFTs dumb? What about cryptocurrencies? In the second half, Adam silently brings us up to speed on his latest Allroad mods. Including 034Motorsports' Audi B9 strut brace, as well as some VCP codings. In particular, disabling the keyfob range limiter, changing the service intervals displayed on the MMI, and panic braking indicators. We talk roof top tents, the ongoing supply chain shortages, and car prices in the US vs Europe. Finally, AJ brings us his trivia this week - poorly described car movies. See if you can guess quicker than we did. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

Episode 40 is here. And in this episode, AJ collects some homework he handed out about what happens when you microwave something metal. This week's movie, "There Will Be Blood" which is a cheerful holiday movie, if you weren't aware. Adam talks about how he fixed his Allroad's turn signal issue, and what the cause was. AJ dealt with some bad drivers with the snow this past week, but Bruce had it even worse. We discuss Tesla's decision to allow video gaming while driving, and then the Lucid Air. In the second half, what's it like to do an oil change on a Ford Escape Hybrid? Pretty easy, save for those wretched skid plates. A weeks worth of sad events involving cars and water. AJ brings the trivia. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

Episode 39 is here, and this week, we deal with some inadvertent audio level issues. Why? Because a certain RC truck ran over the controller. After we get that straightened out, AJ brings us his latest adventure into almost getting into an accident. We talk some more about prepping for the winter months ahead. Adam discovers another European-only option for his Allroad - a powered, retractable tow hitch that disappears under the bumper when not in use! Bruce ridicules him for it. Our movie this week? 1994's Airheads, a not great movie. In the second half of the episode, some cars you'll be able to buy in 2022 that are still being offered with a manual transmission. #SaveTheManuals. AJ gets quizzed on his memory, and about the parts of a manual transmission. Adam discusses his turn signal woes in his Allroad. Dinosaur knowledge comes to light. The main segment for Part 2 - tips for being safe while behind the wheel, and in the event you break down or become lost. A lot of good information and suggestions. Lastly, trivia, as always. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

Episode 37 fam, and tomorrow is Thanksgiving. Eat some turkey, get your stuffing on, and enjoy the time with those who're closest to ya. In the first half of this episode, AJ shows off his knowledge of Italy. Our movie this week - Thank You For Smoking. Bruce gets on the Forza bandwagon with a new Xbox, new TV, new internet, new router, new everything. Adam drools over another car that's for sale online - a C5 RS6 Avant clone. Technically an S6, but with an RS6 drivetrain and a 6-speed swap! DANG. We talk about the John Deere strike, and striking at deers. In the second half, Adam gives it a go at doing his own trivia. His section, Car and Driver's 2022 Best 10 cars and trucks - but with our opinions on their picks. Also the fastest American made cars for each decade. Then AJ jumps in to save the day, with the largest "wheeled" vehicles on earth, the most unique vehicles he could find, and Bruce and Adam must guess what's so special about 5 random people. Adam also brings us what happens when the RS4 goes into storage - spending more money on the Allroad. Some special engine bay trim, European cargo management system, and ECS Tuning Street Shield skid plates are next on the list. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

Episode 35 baybeeeeee, and this episode is a good one. In the first half, we discuss a situation discovered by Japanese marine biologists where hermit crabs find themselves trapped by discarded tires unable to escape. Philadelphia has elected to not prosecute low-level traffic violations. The senseless and tragic drunk driving accident that led to the death of a 23 year old in Las Vegas. And coming together to discuss cars we've found for sale on the interwebs. In the second half, the McRib is back (and it almost was the episode cover, I swear)! We try to guess what cars were driven by some famous serial/spree killers. We debate the pronunciation of macabre. Do we really need backup cameras? A VW Beetle with a Honda S2K drivetrain underneath. AJ brings the trivia by making us guess the car part, spoken in another language. Adam interrupt the episode with talk about another bucket list mod for the Allroad, Bruce declares a mistrial, and AJ has to give us one more impromptu trivia question. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

Episode 33 is here, and with it we bring you the Russian state anthem for some reason. Our movie this week - The Hunt for Red October. Oh wait, maybe that's why... ANYWAY, we are joined by the diminutive Agent Starling in our recording and talk about Tesla's Full Self Driving (FSD) tech beta that has been rolling out to customers it deems are worthy. More on the chip shortage, this cold weather crap we've got going on in NY, and talk about winter tires. We open up this month's Petrolbox, which included a bunch of Hoonigan-themed merch. And Adam gives us an update on his most recent RS4 and Allroad projects. In Part Two, AJ brings us four rounds of trivia. The first? The word "car" in various languages, while Bruce and Adam try to guess. It goes about as well as you could expect. Then, countries with the most (and least) number of cars per 1000 citizens. Round three, weird driving laws not in the USA. And lastly, the harshest penalties for drunk driving in the world. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, the first half is all over the place. It's been monsoon season here in NY apparently, and our car movie this week was 2003's "Grind". Adam brings us up to speed on the next modifications for his cars - headlight upgrades for his RS4, and disabling his Allroad's auto stop-start feature. We talk about John Deere's ongoing strike, Tesla shenanigans with the Cybertruck, and Ford's range upgrade on the Mach-E. In the second half, the main attraction this week - an in-depth discussion on the car video game industry. How it started, where its been, where it is, and where it's going. From the first car arcade game decades ago with simple rolling scenery and a stationary car, to the latest games featuring accurate physics, day/night cycles, and weather changes. We talk about our own experiences playing these games, from the Gran Turismo series, through all the Forza Motorsport and Horizon series, to GTA 5 - a game that, while not marketing itself as a racing sim, damn sure pulls it off. And finally, Bruce and Adam's trip to a scrapyard in search of some illusive Audi doorblades. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, Adam successfully fixes both of his cars' issues - the RS4's exhaust rattle, and the Allroad's inspection! The big news this week is that we received our first Petrolbox, a monthly service that sends you a box of random car-related goodies. We check out what came this month, and offer up a 5% discount for a Mishimoto order - check our Facebook for the code. We round out the first half with various excuses people have for why they lost a race, the Lucid Air, and the big one - a Twitter thread that possibly shows instantaneous battery failure in a Tesla Model 3. We discuss. In part dos, we discuss a couple instances of crazy legal battles involving cars. From a trademark dispute on a "Gone In 60 Seconds" Eleanor resto-mod to Ferrari's extreme steps to control their brand. When you think of certain cars, are they a certain color? We talk about those kinds of perceptions. Finally we wrap up this episode with some more curated trivia. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

This marks officially half a year worth of recording, go us! In the first half of the episode, we talk about Adam and Vladimir Putin's bowels. Bruce and AJ hit up this past week's Cars & Coffee at Wegmans, which also brings us this week's episode cover - a McLaren 720S! The trio then go on to discuss (briefly) Subaru's big northeast meet known as the "Wicked Big Meet" which probably none of them will go to. A certain Allroad gets some progress in getting it's emissions inspection passed, and we discuss the age-old question for old farts - are drivers worse now than they were years ago? What do you think? In the second half, AJ leads us into a discussion as to the future of the gig economy as it pertains to cars. Think Grubhub, DoorDash, Uber Eats, Instacart, Lyft, Uber, etc. - any gig job that has no set hours, but requires an automobile to do it. This leads us to how car designs are beholden to government regulation, and whether electric cars could benefit from being able to be designed intelligently around their batteries and electric motors. Lucid is set to release their first electric car known as the Air, with a 700 (!) mile range. We round out the episode with some trivia (you're welcome, fans) and talks of Battlestar Galactica. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In dieser Ausgabe unseres Fahrradpodcasts „Antritt“ sprechen wir mit Jan Heine über sein Allroad-Bike-Buch und mit Leona Kringe über den Bikepacking Deutschland e.V. 0:00:00] Begrüßung [0:06:29] Übersicht [0:07:31] Das Jan-Heine-Sommergespräch [0:48:02] Leona Kringe von Bikepacking Deutschland e.V. [1:11:46] Verabschiedung >> Artikel zum Nachlesen: https://detektor.fm/gesellschaft/antritt-jan-heine-ueber-allroad-bike-buch-leona-kringe-ueber-bikepacking-verein

In dieser Ausgabe unseres Fahrradpodcasts „Antritt“ sprechen wir mit Jan Heine über sein Allroad-Bike-Buch und mit Leona Kringe über den Bikepacking Deutschland e.V. 0:00:00] Begrüßung [0:06:29] Übersicht [0:07:31] Das Jan-Heine-Sommergespräch [0:48:02] Leona Kringe von Bikepacking Deutschland e.V. [1:11:46] Verabschiedung >> Artikel zum Nachlesen: https://detektor.fm/gesellschaft/antritt-jan-heine-ueber-allroad-bike-buch-leona-kringe-ueber-bikepacking-verein

That's right, another car meet; another angry old man. We discuss proper car show etiquette and what the entire point of a car meet is - hint, it's not being sensitive about loud cars. This past week Bruce and Adam hit up two meets, Friday and Saturday, and they talk about what was seen and what was experienced. And also, this week's movie - 1992's A League of Their Own, for which there were plentiful cars for us to discuss. Part Deuce, Adam quizzes AJ on his car knowledge and talks about the exhaust work done to his Allroad recently. The crew then move on to talk about what makes a shop a good one. Treating their customers, and their rides, with respect is obviously up there. But can a shop being hoity-toity or legitimately snobby really be a bad thing? AJ then brings us his legendary trivia, and rounds out this episode with a new game - Guess the Manufacturer's Slogan. "Like a Rock" ring a bell anyone? --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

In this week's episode, the trio discuss how to prepare yourself and your car for excessively hot weather. The most important bit of information being what temperature pee boils at (true story). Following the same vein, we spend the rest of the first half talking about knowledge that every driver should know about their car and their car's maintenance. From how to put a spare on, to recovering from a skid, to how to jump start a dead battery - we've got you on all the essentials. In the second half, a certain Allroad will be going under the knife again, this time for an upgraded sway bar from 034Motorsport. We talk about our movie this week, which was 2004's EuroTrip. A legitimate car movie. Bruce brings up the crazy scenario that towing a Tesla will actually recharge its battery. And finally, AJ quizzes Bruce and Adam on trivia that every auto mechanic should know. See how you stack up and let us know some other diagnoses you've experienced firsthand? DISCLAIMER - Yes, there is a Pacifica reference in this episode. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/brokecarsnobs/message

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Platform”，这也是这么多年以来斯巴鲁车辆平台的首次更新，未来斯巴鲁的很多产品也都将出自这个平台，除了针对安全性、行驶性能、舒适性和环保方面进行提升之外，最为核心的就是在这套平台下诞生的产品，未来还会搭载多种类型的动力系统，包括汽油发动机、混合动力和纯电动力。简单来说，就是斯巴鲁这套SGP平台下的产物，在安全性方面会比以往更好，并且今后的动力总成的适配性更强。其次，我们来聊一聊全新傲虎的动力系统。之前很多人都说，对于斯巴鲁傲虎这台车，或者说对于所有的斯巴鲁出品的车辆，你永远不能光看它的表面，更要看它的内在，比如水平对置发动机、四驱系统等等，但是如果你看过或者开过之前老款2.0T版本的傲虎，你对现款车型最直观的感受肯定是“想当年猛虎有蛮力，看如今病虎不如鸡”。在2015年-2017年时候，斯巴鲁曾经推出过2.0T的傲虎（同期还有2.0T版本的力狮），发动机输出功率达到了241马力/350牛米，那个动力输出和现在这套169马力/252牛米的2.5L发动机简直是天壤之别，不过比较惨淡的是，之前2.0T版本的傲虎和力狮，在当年总共卖了也就不到500台。回到现款车型使用的2.5L发动机来看，很多人可能会疑惑，为什么这套发动机的排量看上去挺大的，但是账面上的动力输出就这么一点？其实原因很简单，就是因为技术太老了。我们都知道，斯巴鲁过去其实也有一套代号FB25的发动机，搭载在上一代傲虎和力狮上面，而上一代FB25的发动机的技术水平其实更加落后，只有进气侧AVCS（主动阀门控制系统）、PFI（燃油进气道喷射），而且还没有可变气门正时（VVI），换言之这套发动机实际的技术水平也就是2003年左右，比已经停产的锐志上的那颗5GR发动机还要老，而现在用的这颗2.5L发动机，主要的改变就是把之前FB25的燃油进气道喷射（PFI）换成了燃油直喷（GDI），而且这个新机头的直喷压力最多只有15Mpa，并不是现在流行的35Mpa高压直喷，然后斯巴鲁给这套发动机再加了一套排气侧AVCS，其他就没了。换言之，斯巴鲁就是把自家的旧棉袄拿出来，缝三年、补三年、缝缝补补又三年，看上去是在衣服上绣了几朵花，实际上还是那件旧棉袄。所以，现在这个2.5L发动机，其实就是一套十多年前发动机，进行细微优化后的产品，在总体上并没有做太大改进，而这就导致这颗发动机的燃烧模型比较古老，不管是排放还是功率，各个方面都不是很优秀，加上这颗发动机还采用的是低压直喷，所以尾气中的颗粒物比较难控制，进而在面对国6B排放标准的时候，需要加一套颗粒捕捉器，进一步牺牲性能，于是就有现在这个169马力/252牛米的数据。当然，斯巴鲁这么弄倒不是说轻视国内市场或者区别对待，因为这个2.5L版本的车型，在斯巴鲁最为重视的美国市场也是主力车型，只有在Onyx和Limited两个顶配版本上，才有那台无缘中国市场的2.4T发动机，而国内的斯巴鲁目前在卖的就这点车，也没有混动或者新能源车型来满足积分政策，面临国内巨大的排放双积分压力，斯巴鲁根本没有多余的正积分来引进一款搭载2.4T发动机的车型。除了这颗2.5L发动机之外，很多人其实还有一个疑惑点，那就是为啥斯巴鲁目前在售的车型都要用CVT变速箱？其实主要原因就是因为它的这套代号“ACT-4”的四驱系统，而目前斯巴鲁在售车型里采用的全时四驱系统中，这套系统不仅是历史是最长的，也是驱动力分配变动量最大的一套系统。这套ACT-4的四驱系统，在变速箱的后端装备了电控多片离合器式的限滑差速器来驱动前后轮，正常状态下的前后轮扭矩分配被设置在60:40，在行驶过程中，通过探测驱动轮的滑移量和发动机扭矩，这套四驱系统可以根据不同情况，能做到从完全前驱状态（100：0）一直调整到前后轴完全连接状态（50:50），所以，这套四驱系统可以看作类似于前置前驱车的特性，在湿滑路面行驶时，后轮哪怕是出现一点点滑动，车辆都能瞬间将中央差速器锁死变成前后轴完全连接的状态，以此来防止侧滑，再加上车辆动态控制系统（VDC）会在车辆即将失控的状况下及早介入，所以说这套系统最根本的目的，是确保在低摩擦力路面上行驶的可靠性和通过性，而不是追求运动性，因为斯巴鲁自家主打运动性的四驱系统，是搭载在WRX STI上面的DCCD全时四驱系统。虽然说斯巴鲁的这套四驱系统很不错，但是这个代号ACT-4的四驱系统有个BUG，就是变速箱和四驱系统是分不开的，所以在匹配的时候很麻烦（斯巴鲁原来用4AT用了好久），斯巴鲁本身就是个小厂，也没有那么多的人力、物力和精力去做复杂的匹配，而现在用的这套CVT变速箱使用了链条传动，可以承受很高的扭矩，这样就把CVT一个老大难的问题解决了，从而可以给动力更强的发动机装备，并且CVT变速箱不仅可以省油，平顺性也是相当不错，加上斯巴鲁为这套CVT变速箱，在运动模式逻辑、模拟档位、换挡拨片等等方面做了运动化调校，对于一般人来说，日常驾驶表现其实还是过得去的。当然，你如果想要更运动的性能，这样的CVT变速箱肯定是无法满足的，斯巴鲁其实也知道这个CVT无法满足更强的运动需求，所以你会发现，真正主打性能和运动的斯巴鲁车型，要么像BRZ那样用AT变速箱，要么和WRX STI那样用手动变速箱。其实这一点我觉得斯巴鲁做的还是挺有意思的，而且给我一种这家车厂就像是一家小饭店的感觉，首先他们的菜单里绝对不会出现什么鲍鱼、海参之类的高价菜，但是老板又有一些拿手的硬菜（比如WRX STI、BRZ），你如果只是想随便吃点，那菜单里也有一些家常小炒（森林人、力狮、傲虎），甚至还会有价格更低，但是也挺下饭的菜品（XV）。再者，我们来聊一聊这套EyeSight系统。我们都知道，斯巴鲁的这套EyeSight系统一直会和动力系统去做紧密的匹配和调校，上一代搭载涡轮发动机的斯巴鲁车型，在国内都没有配备EyeSight系统，主要原因就是斯巴鲁还没做好与涡轮车匹配的EyeSight系统。简单来说，斯巴鲁EyeSight驾驶辅助系统主要具备4项功能：防碰撞制动系统（PCB）、全车速自适应巡航控制系统（ACC）、起步油门误操作预防功能和警报与提示功能，其实本质上和本田的Honda Sensing类似，都是“视觉智能化科技”，属于给车辆提升附加值和安全性的产品，只是由于斯巴鲁很久都没有这种比较“时髦”的科技配置，促使这个EyeSight系统让不少人觉得很新奇。最后，不论斯巴鲁的产品究竟如何（其实还可以），任何一家车企都是以赚钱为目的，而斯巴鲁以目前现有的产品来看，似乎很难满足中国市场的需求，但是这就导致越不满足需求、销量就越低，销量不断走低之后，斯巴鲁估计自己也没啥兴趣去满足中国市场，万一造出来了还是卖不掉怎么办，大家都是出来卖的，谁也不愿意拿自己的销量去赌，斯巴鲁只要自己保证单车利润，能做到不亏钱，那就皆大欢喜，毕竟美国市场才是斯巴鲁的重中之重。况且，就算引入2.4T发动机，就算价格比现在定的再便宜一些，其实买的人估计也不会比现在能增加多少，斯巴鲁在中国基本上没什么钱去搞营销，整个销售体系在国内也被庞大集团一家独占，至于什么坚持、情怀、工匠精神……这些都只能说说而已，作为车企首要任务是赚钱活下去，看看当年的萨博，现在坟头都长草了。所以，与其去强行顺应市场作出一些改变，还不如先半死不活的造车卖车，等装备CB18发动机的傲虎和森林人进入国内之后，再通过与丰田的合作，实现CB18发动机与丰田THS混动技术的融合，通过混动车型的销售来满足积分需求，进而再引入口碑和招牌车型。在我看来，斯巴鲁这个品牌你说它聪明吧，它其实挺傻的，中国市场这么大一块蛋糕摆在它面前，结果自己不仅不会吃，而且连吃饭的家伙也跟不上，自己还要面对积分和油耗双重难题，弄的旗下招牌车型根本进不来。但是，你说斯巴鲁傻吧，它其实也挺聪明的，至少斯巴鲁明白，自己应该造个什么样的车，而不是像那个和它合作的日系厂家一样，在消费者看不见的地方偷偷摸摸的减配点东西，有点大智若愚的感觉，也算是小厂的坚持吧。斯巴鲁傲虎的竞争对手？没有！傲虎的竞争对手都有哪些？在30万左右的价位，很难找到一款像傲虎这么特殊的车。虽然很多网站都将傲虎归类为中型SUV，但我觉得这并不贴切，准确来说这是一款介于轿车与SUV之间的中型跨界旅行车，同理，自家的XV是低一级别的紧凑型跨界旅行车，斯巴鲁在售的只有森林人是非常标准的SUV。如果非要说傲虎像什么，它很像奥迪的Allroad系列和沃尔沃的Cross Country系列，既保留了轿车的驾驶感、操控感，同时兼具SUV的高通过性。但即使是这两个系列中最便宜的A4 allroad quattro探索家（41.88万）和V90 Cross Country B5 AWD智远版（44.79万），指导价都远超傲虎。即使是目前优惠巨大的V90CC智远版，裸车大概38万左右，落地也要43万左右，而中期改款后的A4 allroad去年底刚刚上市，优惠还没有到位，稍微带点配置就要奔着落地45万去了。所以，傲虎在这个价位没有直接竞争对手。有意思的是，选择傲虎的人，当初很多是在同价位的SUV中纠结，而非看上去更相似的旅行车。也许每一位傲虎车主都有一颗“撒野”的心，他们更加在意通过性，大多数旅行车是没有通过性可言的，而傲虎在通过性和装载性上都得到了相应的保证，唯一美中不足的，就是这台车在驾驶的时候，你会有一种这不像一台斯巴鲁的感觉，因为斯巴鲁引以为豪的就是水平对置发动机带来的低重心，但是傲虎为了保证离地间隙和通过性，把离地高度弄的挺高的，所以这也带来了一个矛盾点，想越野这台车性能又不是特别够，想在城市道路或者高速路去跑，又没有传统的旅行车那么舒服，只有在非铺装路面或者坑洼路面上，才能比较好的体会这台车到底“香”在哪里。除了类似于斯巴鲁傲虎这样的旅行车之外，我们再来聊一聊，同价位可以买到什么样的SUV，因为傲虎这台车实际上就是在切旅行车和SUV之间的夹缝。以傲虎现在的售价来看，主流点的SUV有丰田汉兰达（23.98-30.68万）、福特锐界（22.98-30.98万）、福特探险者（30.98-39.98万）、大众途昂（29.99-45.99万）、别克昂科旗（27.99-37.99万）、雪佛兰开拓者（22.99-32.99万），当然还有之前我们聊过的六缸大自吸现代帕里斯帝（29.88-32.98万）。你会发现，这个价位的合资SUV，至少已是7座中型SUV的级别，甚至像探险者、途昂、昂科旗、开拓者和帕里斯帝这样的已经上至中大型SUV了。而在这些车当中，以30万左右裸车的预算，除了探险者和帕里斯帝你只能买到低配以外，其他车都已经可以买到中配、甚至高配了。并且，这些SUV相比傲虎来看，不仅通过性更好，收起第三排座椅后也有一定的装载能力，在家用层面，每一款车都更加符合主流群体的审美取向与使用习惯。但傲虎身上有一样特质是这些车没有的，那就是调性，最后选择傲虎的人，我只能说他们身上“生活的重担”压得还不够沉，花钱去彰显调性并不是谁都有条件做到的。同样的预算，再看一看豪华品牌紧凑型SUV，它们的中低配普遍比傲虎更便宜。比如宝马X1（27.98-33.98万）、凯迪拉克XT4（25.97-39.17万）、林肯冒险家（24.68-34.58万）、沃尔沃XC40（26.48-38.58万）、讴歌CDX（22.98-34.98万）。而且除了冒险家，其他车都有比较可观的优惠，动不动就好几万。你也许会说以上这些车都低了一个级别，没可比性。那么以同样的预算，你还可以买到优惠巨大的二线豪华中型SUV，凯迪拉克XT5全系最低配落地甚至已经跌到30万左右，比傲虎最低配的定价还便宜，再加个几万块甚至可以落地XT6了，这可是高一级别的6/7座中大型SUV。与此同时还有沃尔沃XC60，2.0T高功率的T5版本低配落地32万以内，也相当贴近傲虎裸车的定价。此外还有英菲尼迪QX50、路虎发现运动版、揽胜极光、讴歌RDX……它们的低配车型优惠后也都掉入了傲虎的价格区间之中，甚至更低。所以对比这些SUV车型来看，游走在夹缝之中的傲虎，其实并不能剩下多少的生存空间，看重实用性的客户，可以去选择合资7座的中型甚至中大型SUV，看重品牌力的客户，也有大把的豪华品牌SUV可选，以至于傲虎成为了一款无法吸引主流购买力的车，也注定是一款只属于少数人的大玩具。顺带一提，很多傲虎的潜在买家都在担心水平对置发动机的养护费用，这一点大可放心，因为水平对置发动机在日常维护保养的费用，与普通的发动机并没有什么特别大的差别，你需要担心的，更多是将来不巧发动机坏了需要大修，或者一些需要修理的配件没有库存，需要从海外发货，那么你就要面临漫长的等待。傲虎适合什么样的人？应该是什么样的人适合傲虎那么，什么样的人适合傲虎？我觉得答案一定是“少数人”，如果用一句话来概括傲虎这台车，那就是：傲虎这种SUV和旅行车的结合体，不一定样样都拔尖，但它每一样都会一点。按照常理来看，这种“中庸”的车型应该非常符合国内市场的胃口，因为这种车做的其实和丰田有异曲同工之妙，都是属于80分主义下的产物，可为什么斯巴鲁的接受度还是这么低？我觉得，这里面除了国内外文化差异的因素以外（旅行车的小众窘境，就是典型的由文化差异导致的结果），更多原因还是出在傲虎自己身上。首先，傲虎在国内的定价实在是没什么诚意，北美2.5L版本26000多美金起售，折合人民币17万多，同样标配EyeSight（但是美版配备的是EyeSight 3.0，国内是介于3.0和4.0之间的产品），拉到国内定一个31.28万起的售价。而我们之前聊过的现代帕里斯帝，北美32000多美金起售，折合人民币21万左右，在国内也只定到了29.88万起。同样都是进口车，帕里斯帝在北美起价还高了6000美金，相当于4万人民币，别忘了它还是3.5L的V6发动机，交着更高的排量税，结果回过头来定价和傲虎差不多，所以就让人有点看不懂，斯巴鲁玩的到底是哪一出？其次，全新傲虎并没有带来特别大的改变。除了外观变动、内饰升级，在发动机、变速箱、四驱系统上并没有肉眼可见的改进，这次最大的遗憾，就是没有引入新的2.4T水平对置发动机，但回过头想想，曾经2.0T的傲虎卖到了35.98万，如果2.4T引进了，按照斯巴鲁在傲虎上惯用的高冷定价风格，怕不是奔着40多万去了。至于和同价位SUV对比，傲虎产品力和性价比上的不足会被无限放大，摆在明面上的东西也没做好：过于保守的内饰、老旧的动力系统、羸弱的动力……同时对于绝大多数追求实用性的客户来说，进口车的维修保养反而是个累赘，而且2.5L的排量，会让自己每年的车船税都多交一点。对于主流消费者来说，以上不管是哪一样小问题，单拎出来一个就足够让消费者把傲虎从意向车型中移除，但是，傲虎作为同价位极少数的跨界旅行车，它身上所展现出的特殊性，确实能够取悦那些少数的、追求个性的消费者。所以，傲虎这台车在国内就变的很挑剔，而且不是你在挑傲虎的毛病，是傲虎在挑你适不适合做它的车主。音频图文更新在订阅号：百车全说每期抽三条留言，每人赠168元的“芥末绿”燃油添加剂一瓶点击订阅，每周三，周六更新会有提醒新听友可以搜索：百车全说2014，百车全说2015，百车全说2016，往期300多个小时的节目可供收听

《阴阳双剑》点击小黄条，玩刀哥同款手游，领88元红包，海量喜点，喜马拉雅VIP。输入刀哥专属礼包码：“VIP520”，升级更快，玩的更爽。关注“7477手游”微信公众号，输入“刀哥”更有神秘礼包免费送。公众号二维码※ 本文章发布于订阅号：百车全说，订阅号阅读更加方便，欢迎关注上次我们聊完旅行车之后，很多人在下面留言，想聊一聊斯巴鲁的傲虎，刚好在2021年3月3日的时候，全新斯巴鲁傲虎上市了，31.28万-33.08万的定价也是非常的傲娇，比之前2020款27.08万-31.08万的价格还涨了一些，让我猛然间有点看不懂斯巴鲁的定价策略。因为，斯巴鲁在中国其实是一个小众品牌，凭借进口车的身份，配合斯巴鲁旗下大名鼎鼎的翼豹WRX STI系列车型作为性能图腾，还有BRZ这种价格不高、但是乐趣十足的小跑车……这些产品的推出，加上水平对置发动机、高安全性和良好的四驱性能，使得斯巴鲁在中国一部分车迷心中积累了一定的口碑。当然，今天我们主要聊的还是这台全新推出的斯巴鲁傲虎。掰着指头算一算，第一代斯巴鲁傲虎从1994年在纽约车展上亮相，到现在已经是第六代车型了，比我们熟悉的奥迪Allroad系列的历史其实还要再早6年，而在奥迪Allroad正式亮相的2000年，斯巴鲁傲虎已经作为一款独立车型，从力狮车型系列里分离出来了，所以相比之下，其实斯巴鲁玩这种跨界旅行车可以说是行业老大哥的地位。可是，就是这样一位老大哥，为啥在国内市场越来越吃不开呢，到底是产品有问题还是市场政策有问题，又或者是那一句千年不变的“消费者不懂车”？带着这些问题，我自己也是小小的研究了一下，在此也与各位分享一下。全新傲虎到底新在哪？我们先来聊一聊这台新出的斯巴鲁傲虎，因为这台车的外观和内饰，相比过去确实是有了一定的升级，比如基于SGP平台打造、全新的外观设计语言、内饰竖向的11.6寸大屏、最新的EyeSight 4.0驾驶辅助系统……首先，我们来聊一聊这个SGP平台。斯巴鲁这个SGP平台，全称叫做“Subaru Global Platform”，这也是这么多年以来斯巴鲁车辆平台的首次更新，未来斯巴鲁的很多产品也都将出自这个平台，除了针对安全性、行驶性能、舒适性和环保方面进行提升之外，最为核心的就是在这套平台下诞生的产品，未来还会搭载多种类型的动力系统，包括汽油发动机、混合动力和纯电动力。简单来说，就是斯巴鲁这套SGP平台下的产物，在安全性方面会比以往更好，并且今后的动力总成的适配性更强。其次，我们来聊一聊全新傲虎的动力系统。之前很多人都说，对于斯巴鲁傲虎这台车，或者说对于所有的斯巴鲁出品的车辆，你永远不能光看它的表面，更要看它的内在，比如水平对置发动机、四驱系统等等，但是如果你看过或者开过之前老款2.0T版本的傲虎，你对现款车型最直观的感受肯定是“想当年猛虎有蛮力，看如今病虎不如鸡”。在2015年-2017年时候，斯巴鲁曾经推出过2.0T的傲虎（同期还有2.0T版本的力狮），发动机输出功率达到了241马力/350牛米，那个动力输出和现在这套169马力/252牛米的2.5L发动机简直是天壤之别，不过比较惨淡的是，之前2.0T版本的傲虎和力狮，在当年总共卖了也就不到500台。回到现款车型使用的2.5L发动机来看，很多人可能会疑惑，为什么这套发动机的排量看上去挺大的，但是账面上的动力输出就这么一点？其实原因很简单，就是因为技术太老了。我们都知道，斯巴鲁过去其实也有一套代号FB25的发动机，搭载在上一代傲虎和力狮上面，而上一代FB25的发动机的技术水平其实更加落后，只有进气侧AVCS（主动阀门控制系统）、PFI（燃油进气道喷射），而且还没有可变气门正时（VVI），换言之这套发动机实际的技术水平也就是2003年左右，比已经停产的锐志上的那颗5GR发动机还要老，而现在用的这颗2.5L发动机，主要的改变就是把之前FB25的燃油进气道喷射（PFI）换成了燃油直喷（GDI），而且这个新机头的直喷压力最多只有15Mpa，并不是现在流行的35Mpa高压直喷，然后斯巴鲁给这套发动机再加了一套排气侧AVCS，其他就没了。换言之，斯巴鲁就是把自家的旧棉袄拿出来，缝三年、补三年、缝缝补补又三年，看上去是在衣服上绣了几朵花，实际上还是那件旧棉袄。所以，现在这个2.5L发动机，其实就是一套十多年前发动机，进行细微优化后的产品，在总体上并没有做太大改进，而这就导致这颗发动机的燃烧模型比较古老，不管是排放还是功率，各个方面都不是很优秀，加上这颗发动机还采用的是低压直喷，所以尾气中的颗粒物比较难控制，进而在面对国6B排放标准的时候，需要加一套颗粒捕捉器，进一步牺牲性能，于是就有现在这个169马力/252牛米的数据。当然，斯巴鲁这么弄倒不是说轻视国内市场或者区别对待，因为这个2.5L版本的车型，在斯巴鲁最为重视的美国市场也是主力车型，只有在Onyx和Limited两个顶配版本上，才有那台无缘中国市场的2.4T发动机，而国内的斯巴鲁目前在卖的就这点车，也没有混动或者新能源车型来满足积分政策，面临国内巨大的排放双积分压力，斯巴鲁根本没有多余的正积分来引进一款搭载2.4T发动机的车型。除了这颗2.5L发动机之外，很多人其实还有一个疑惑点，那就是为啥斯巴鲁目前在售的车型都要用CVT变速箱？其实主要原因就是因为它的这套代号“ACT-4”的四驱系统，而目前斯巴鲁在售车型里采用的全时四驱系统中，这套系统不仅是历史是最长的，也是驱动力分配变动量最大的一套系统。这套ACT-4的四驱系统，在变速箱的后端装备了电控多片离合器式的限滑差速器来驱动前后轮，正常状态下的前后轮扭矩分配被设置在60:40，在行驶过程中，通过探测驱动轮的滑移量和发动机扭矩，这套四驱系统可以根据不同情况，能做到从完全前驱状态（100：0）一直调整到前后轴完全连接状态（50:50），所以，这套四驱系统可以看作类似于前置前驱车的特性，在湿滑路面行驶时，后轮哪怕是出现一点点滑动，车辆都能瞬间将中央差速器锁死变成前后轴完全连接的状态，以此来防止侧滑，再加上车辆动态控制系统（VDC）会在车辆即将失控的状况下及早介入，所以说这套系统最根本的目的，是确保在低摩擦力路面上行驶的可靠性和通过性，而不是追求运动性，因为斯巴鲁自家主打运动性的四驱系统，是搭载在WRX STI上面的DCCD全时四驱系统。虽然说斯巴鲁的这套四驱系统很不错，但是这个代号ACT-4的四驱系统有个BUG，就是变速箱和四驱系统是分不开的，所以在匹配的时候很麻烦（斯巴鲁原来用4AT用了好久），斯巴鲁本身就是个小厂，也没有那么多的人力、物力和精力去做复杂的匹配，而现在用的这套CVT变速箱使用了链条传动，可以承受很高的扭矩，这样就把CVT一个老大难的问题解决了，从而可以给动力更强的发动机装备，并且CVT变速箱不仅可以省油，平顺性也是相当不错，加上斯巴鲁为这套CVT变速箱，在运动模式逻辑、模拟档位、换挡拨片等等方面做了运动化调校，对于一般人来说，日常驾驶表现其实还是过得去的。当然，你如果想要更运动的性能，这样的CVT变速箱肯定是无法满足的，斯巴鲁其实也知道这个CVT无法满足更强的运动需求，所以你会发现，真正主打性能和运动的斯巴鲁车型，要么像BRZ那样用AT变速箱，要么和WRX STI那样用手动变速箱。其实这一点我觉得斯巴鲁做的还是挺有意思的，而且给我一种这家车厂就像是一家小饭店的感觉，首先他们的菜单里绝对不会出现什么鲍鱼、海参之类的高价菜，但是老板又有一些拿手的硬菜（比如WRX STI、BRZ），你如果只是想随便吃点，那菜单里也有一些家常小炒（森林人、力狮、傲虎），甚至还会有价格更低，但是也挺下饭的菜品（XV）。再者，我们来聊一聊这套EyeSight系统。我们都知道，斯巴鲁的这套EyeSight系统一直会和动力系统去做紧密的匹配和调校，上一代搭载涡轮发动机的斯巴鲁车型，在国内都没有配备EyeSight系统，主要原因就是斯巴鲁还没做好与涡轮车匹配的EyeSight系统。简单来说，斯巴鲁EyeSight驾驶辅助系统主要具备4项功能：防碰撞制动系统（PCB）、全车速自适应巡航控制系统（ACC）、起步油门误操作预防功能和警报与提示功能，其实本质上和本田的Honda Sensing类似，都是“视觉智能化科技”，属于给车辆提升附加值和安全性的产品，只是由于斯巴鲁很久都没有这种比较“时髦”的科技配置，促使这个EyeSight系统让不少人觉得很新奇。最后，不论斯巴鲁的产品究竟如何（其实还可以），任何一家车企都是以赚钱为目的，而斯巴鲁以目前现有的产品来看，似乎很难满足中国市场的需求，但是这就导致越不满足需求、销量就越低，销量不断走低之后，斯巴鲁估计自己也没啥兴趣去满足中国市场，万一造出来了还是卖不掉怎么办，大家都是出来卖的，谁也不愿意拿自己的销量去赌，斯巴鲁只要自己保证单车利润，能做到不亏钱，那就皆大欢喜，毕竟美国市场才是斯巴鲁的重中之重。况且，就算引入2.4T发动机，就算价格比现在定的再便宜一些，其实买的人估计也不会比现在能增加多少，斯巴鲁在中国基本上没什么钱去搞营销，整个销售体系在国内也被庞大集团一家独占，至于什么坚持、情怀、工匠精神……这些都只能说说而已，作为车企首要任务是赚钱活下去，看看当年的萨博，现在坟头都长草了。所以，与其去强行顺应市场作出一些改变，还不如先半死不活的造车卖车，等装备CB18发动机的傲虎和森林人进入国内之后，再通过与丰田的合作，实现CB18发动机与丰田THS混动技术的融合，通过混动车型的销售来满足积分需求，进而再引入口碑和招牌车型。在我看来，斯巴鲁这个品牌你说它聪明吧，它其实挺傻的，中国市场这么大一块蛋糕摆在它面前，结果自己不仅不会吃，而且连吃饭的家伙也跟不上，自己还要面对积分和油耗双重难题，弄的旗下招牌车型根本进不来。但是，你说斯巴鲁傻吧，它其实也挺聪明的，至少斯巴鲁明白，自己应该造个什么样的车，而不是像那个和它合作的日系厂家一样，在消费者看不见的地方偷偷摸摸的减配点东西，有点大智若愚的感觉，也算是小厂的坚持吧。斯巴鲁傲虎的竞争对手？没有！傲虎的竞争对手都有哪些？在30万左右的价位，很难找到一款像傲虎这么特殊的车。虽然很多网站都将傲虎归类为中型SUV，但我觉得这并不贴切，准确来说这是一款介于轿车与SUV之间的中型跨界旅行车，同理，自家的XV是低一级别的紧凑型跨界旅行车，斯巴鲁在售的只有森林人是非常标准的SUV。如果非要说傲虎像什么，它很像奥迪的Allroad系列和沃尔沃的Cross Country系列，既保留了轿车的驾驶感、操控感，同时兼具SUV的高通过性。但即使是这两个系列中最便宜的A4 allroad quattro探索家（41.88万）和V90 Cross Country B5 AWD智远版（44.79万），指导价都远超傲虎。即使是目前优惠巨大的V90CC智远版，裸车大概38万左右，落地也要43万左右，而中期改款后的A4 allroad去年底刚刚上市，优惠还没有到位，稍微带点配置就要奔着落地45万去了。所以，傲虎在这个价位没有直接竞争对手。有意思的是，选择傲虎的人，当初很多是在同价位的SUV中纠结，而非看上去更相似的旅行车。也许每一位傲虎车主都有一颗“撒野”的心，他们更加在意通过性，大多数旅行车是没有通过性可言的，而傲虎在通过性和装载性上都得到了相应的保证，唯一美中不足的，就是这台车在驾驶的时候，你会有一种这不像一台斯巴鲁的感觉，因为斯巴鲁引以为豪的就是水平对置发动机带来的低重心，但是傲虎为了保证离地间隙和通过性，把离地高度弄的挺高的，所以这也带来了一个矛盾点，想越野这台车性能又不是特别够，想在城市道路或者高速路去跑，又没有传统的旅行车那么舒服，只有在非铺装路面或者坑洼路面上，才能比较好的体会这台车到底“香”在哪里。除了类似于斯巴鲁傲虎这样的旅行车之外，我们再来聊一聊，同价位可以买到什么样的SUV，因为傲虎这台车实际上就是在切旅行车和SUV之间的夹缝。以傲虎现在的售价来看，主流点的SUV有丰田汉兰达（23.98-30.68万）、福特锐界（22.98-30.98万）、福特探险者（30.98-39.98万）、大众途昂（29.99-45.99万）、别克昂科旗（27.99-37.99万）、雪佛兰开拓者（22.99-32.99万），当然还有之前我们聊过的六缸大自吸现代帕里斯帝（29.88-32.98万）。你会发现，这个价位的合资SUV，至少已是7座中型SUV的级别，甚至像探险者、途昂、昂科旗、开拓者和帕里斯帝这样的已经上至中大型SUV了。而在这些车当中，以30万左右裸车的预算，除了探险者和帕里斯帝你只能买到低配以外，其他车都已经可以买到中配、甚至高配了。并且，这些SUV相比傲虎来看，不仅通过性更好，收起第三排座椅后也有一定的装载能力，在家用层面，每一款车都更加符合主流群体的审美取向与使用习惯。但傲虎身上有一样特质是这些车没有的，那就是调性，最后选择傲虎的人，我只能说他们身上“生活的重担”压得还不够沉，花钱去彰显调性并不是谁都有条件做到的。同样的预算，再看一看豪华品牌紧凑型SUV，它们的中低配普遍比傲虎更便宜。比如宝马X1（27.98-33.98万）、凯迪拉克XT4（25.97-39.17万）、林肯冒险家（24.68-34.58万）、沃尔沃XC40（26.48-38.58万）、讴歌CDX（22.98-34.98万）。而且除了冒险家，其他车都有比较可观的优惠，动不动就好几万。你也许会说以上这些车都低了一个级别，没可比性。那么以同样的预算，你还可以买到优惠巨大的二线豪华中型SUV，凯迪拉克XT5全系最低配落地甚至已经跌到30万左右，比傲虎最低配的定价还便宜，再加个几万块甚至可以落地XT6了，这可是高一级别的6/7座中大型SUV。与此同时还有沃尔沃XC60，2.0T高功率的T5版本低配落地32万以内，也相当贴近傲虎裸车的定价。此外还有英菲尼迪QX50、路虎发现运动版、揽胜极光、讴歌RDX……它们的低配车型优惠后也都掉入了傲虎的价格区间之中，甚至更低。所以对比这些SUV车型来看，游走在夹缝之中的傲虎，其实并不能剩下多少的生存空间，看重实用性的客户，可以去选择合资7座的中型甚至中大型SUV，看重品牌力的客户，也有大把的豪华品牌SUV可选，以至于傲虎成为了一款无法吸引主流购买力的车，也注定是一款只属于少数人的大玩具。顺带一提，很多傲虎的潜在买家都在担心水平对置发动机的养护费用，这一点大可放心，因为水平对置发动机在日常维护保养的费用，与普通的发动机并没有什么特别大的差别，你需要担心的，更多是将来不巧发动机坏了需要大修，或者一些需要修理的配件没有库存，需要从海外发货，那么你就要面临漫长的等待。傲虎适合什么样的人？应该是什么样的人适合傲虎那么，什么样的人适合傲虎？我觉得答案一定是“少数人”，如果用一句话来概括傲虎这台车，那就是：傲虎这种SUV和旅行车的结合体，不一定样样都拔尖，但它每一样都会一点。按照常理来看，这种“中庸”的车型应该非常符合国内市场的胃口，因为这种车做的其实和丰田有异曲同工之妙，都是属于80分主义下的产物，可为什么斯巴鲁的接受度还是这么低？我觉得，这里面除了国内外文化差异的因素以外（旅行车的小众窘境，就是典型的由文化差异导致的结果），更多原因还是出在傲虎自己身上。首先，傲虎在国内的定价实在是没什么诚意，北美2.5L版本26000多美金起售，折合人民币17万多，同样标配EyeSight（但是美版配备的是EyeSight 3.0，国内是介于3.0和4.0之间的产品），拉到国内定一个31.28万起的售价。而我们之前聊过的现代帕里斯帝，北美32000多美金起售，折合人民币21万左右，在国内也只定到了29.88万起。同样都是进口车，帕里斯帝在北美起价还高了6000美金，相当于4万人民币，别忘了它还是3.5L的V6发动机，交着更高的排量税，结果回过头来定价和傲虎差不多，所以就让人有点看不懂，斯巴鲁玩的到底是哪一出？其次，全新傲虎并没有带来特别大的改变。除了外观变动、内饰升级，在发动机、变速箱、四驱系统上并没有肉眼可见的改进，这次最大的遗憾，就是没有引入新的2.4T水平对置发动机，但回过头想想，曾经2.0T的傲虎卖到了35.98万，如果2.4T引进了，按照斯巴鲁在傲虎上惯用的高冷定价风格，怕不是奔着40多万去了。至于和同价位SUV对比，傲虎产品力和性价比上的不足会被无限放大，摆在明面上的东西也没做好：过于保守的内饰、老旧的动力系统、羸弱的动力……同时对于绝大多数追求实用性的客户来说，进口车的维修保养反而是个累赘，而且2.5L的排量，会让自己每年的车船税都多交一点。对于主流消费者来说，以上不管是哪一样小问题，单拎出来一个就足够让消费者把傲虎从意向车型中移除，但是，傲虎作为同价位极少数的跨界旅行车，它身上所展现出的特殊性，确实能够取悦那些少数的、追求个性的消费者。所以，傲虎这台车在国内就变的很挑剔，而且不是你在挑傲虎的毛病，是傲虎在挑你适不适合做它的车主。音频图文更新在订阅号：百车全说每期抽三条留言，每人赠168元的“芥末绿”燃油添加剂一瓶点击订阅，每周三，周六更新会有提醒新听友可以搜索：百车全说2014，百车全说2015，百车全说2016，往期300多个小时的节目可供收听

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Platform”，这也是这么多年以来斯巴鲁车辆平台的首次更新，未来斯巴鲁的很多产品也都将出自这个平台，除了针对安全性、行驶性能、舒适性和环保方面进行提升之外，最为核心的就是在这套平台下诞生的产品，未来还会搭载多种类型的动力系统，包括汽油发动机、混合动力和纯电动力。简单来说，就是斯巴鲁这套SGP平台下的产物，在安全性方面会比以往更好，并且今后的动力总成的适配性更强。其次，我们来聊一聊全新傲虎的动力系统。之前很多人都说，对于斯巴鲁傲虎这台车，或者说对于所有的斯巴鲁出品的车辆，你永远不能光看它的表面，更要看它的内在，比如水平对置发动机、四驱系统等等，但是如果你看过或者开过之前老款2.0T版本的傲虎，你对现款车型最直观的感受肯定是“想当年猛虎有蛮力，看如今病虎不如鸡”。在2015年-2017年时候，斯巴鲁曾经推出过2.0T的傲虎（同期还有2.0T版本的力狮），发动机输出功率达到了241马力/350牛米，那个动力输出和现在这套169马力/252牛米的2.5L发动机简直是天壤之别，不过比较惨淡的是，之前2.0T版本的傲虎和力狮，在当年总共卖了也就不到500台。回到现款车型使用的2.5L发动机来看，很多人可能会疑惑，为什么这套发动机的排量看上去挺大的，但是账面上的动力输出就这么一点？其实原因很简单，就是因为技术太老了。我们都知道，斯巴鲁过去其实也有一套代号FB25的发动机，搭载在上一代傲虎和力狮上面，而上一代FB25的发动机的技术水平其实更加落后，只有进气侧AVCS（主动阀门控制系统）、PFI（燃油进气道喷射），而且还没有可变气门正时（VVI），换言之这套发动机实际的技术水平也就是2003年左右，比已经停产的锐志上的那颗5GR发动机还要老，而现在用的这颗2.5L发动机，主要的改变就是把之前FB25的燃油进气道喷射（PFI）换成了燃油直喷（GDI），而且这个新机头的直喷压力最多只有15Mpa，并不是现在流行的35Mpa高压直喷，然后斯巴鲁给这套发动机再加了一套排气侧AVCS，其他就没了。换言之，斯巴鲁就是把自家的旧棉袄拿出来，缝三年、补三年、缝缝补补又三年，看上去是在衣服上绣了几朵花，实际上还是那件旧棉袄。所以，现在这个2.5L发动机，其实就是一套十多年前发动机，进行细微优化后的产品，在总体上并没有做太大改进，而这就导致这颗发动机的燃烧模型比较古老，不管是排放还是功率，各个方面都不是很优秀，加上这颗发动机还采用的是低压直喷，所以尾气中的颗粒物比较难控制，进而在面对国6B排放标准的时候，需要加一套颗粒捕捉器，进一步牺牲性能，于是就有现在这个169马力/252牛米的数据。当然，斯巴鲁这么弄倒不是说轻视国内市场或者区别对待，因为这个2.5L版本的车型，在斯巴鲁最为重视的美国市场也是主力车型，只有在Onyx和Limited两个顶配版本上，才有那台无缘中国市场的2.4T发动机，而国内的斯巴鲁目前在卖的就这点车，也没有混动或者新能源车型来满足积分政策，面临国内巨大的排放双积分压力，斯巴鲁根本没有多余的正积分来引进一款搭载2.4T发动机的车型。除了这颗2.5L发动机之外，很多人其实还有一个疑惑点，那就是为啥斯巴鲁目前在售的车型都要用CVT变速箱？其实主要原因就是因为它的这套代号“ACT-4”的四驱系统，而目前斯巴鲁在售车型里采用的全时四驱系统中，这套系统不仅是历史是最长的，也是驱动力分配变动量最大的一套系统。这套ACT-4的四驱系统，在变速箱的后端装备了电控多片离合器式的限滑差速器来驱动前后轮，正常状态下的前后轮扭矩分配被设置在60:40，在行驶过程中，通过探测驱动轮的滑移量和发动机扭矩，这套四驱系统可以根据不同情况，能做到从完全前驱状态（100：0）一直调整到前后轴完全连接状态（50:50），所以，这套四驱系统可以看作类似于前置前驱车的特性，在湿滑路面行驶时，后轮哪怕是出现一点点滑动，车辆都能瞬间将中央差速器锁死变成前后轴完全连接的状态，以此来防止侧滑，再加上车辆动态控制系统（VDC）会在车辆即将失控的状况下及早介入，所以说这套系统最根本的目的，是确保在低摩擦力路面上行驶的可靠性和通过性，而不是追求运动性，因为斯巴鲁自家主打运动性的四驱系统，是搭载在WRX STI上面的DCCD全时四驱系统。虽然说斯巴鲁的这套四驱系统很不错，但是这个代号ACT-4的四驱系统有个BUG，就是变速箱和四驱系统是分不开的，所以在匹配的时候很麻烦（斯巴鲁原来用4AT用了好久），斯巴鲁本身就是个小厂，也没有那么多的人力、物力和精力去做复杂的匹配，而现在用的这套CVT变速箱使用了链条传动，可以承受很高的扭矩，这样就把CVT一个老大难的问题解决了，从而可以给动力更强的发动机装备，并且CVT变速箱不仅可以省油，平顺性也是相当不错，加上斯巴鲁为这套CVT变速箱，在运动模式逻辑、模拟档位、换挡拨片等等方面做了运动化调校，对于一般人来说，日常驾驶表现其实还是过得去的。当然，你如果想要更运动的性能，这样的CVT变速箱肯定是无法满足的，斯巴鲁其实也知道这个CVT无法满足更强的运动需求，所以你会发现，真正主打性能和运动的斯巴鲁车型，要么像BRZ那样用AT变速箱，要么和WRX STI那样用手动变速箱。其实这一点我觉得斯巴鲁做的还是挺有意思的，而且给我一种这家车厂就像是一家小饭店的感觉，首先他们的菜单里绝对不会出现什么鲍鱼、海参之类的高价菜，但是老板又有一些拿手的硬菜（比如WRX STI、BRZ），你如果只是想随便吃点，那菜单里也有一些家常小炒（森林人、力狮、傲虎），甚至还会有价格更低，但是也挺下饭的菜品（XV）。再者，我们来聊一聊这套EyeSight系统。我们都知道，斯巴鲁的这套EyeSight系统一直会和动力系统去做紧密的匹配和调校，上一代搭载涡轮发动机的斯巴鲁车型，在国内都没有配备EyeSight系统，主要原因就是斯巴鲁还没做好与涡轮车匹配的EyeSight系统。简单来说，斯巴鲁EyeSight驾驶辅助系统主要具备4项功能：防碰撞制动系统（PCB）、全车速自适应巡航控制系统（ACC）、起步油门误操作预防功能和警报与提示功能，其实本质上和本田的Honda Sensing类似，都是“视觉智能化科技”，属于给车辆提升附加值和安全性的产品，只是由于斯巴鲁很久都没有这种比较“时髦”的科技配置，促使这个EyeSight系统让不少人觉得很新奇。最后，不论斯巴鲁的产品究竟如何（其实还可以），任何一家车企都是以赚钱为目的，而斯巴鲁以目前现有的产品来看，似乎很难满足中国市场的需求，但是这就导致越不满足需求、销量就越低，销量不断走低之后，斯巴鲁估计自己也没啥兴趣去满足中国市场，万一造出来了还是卖不掉怎么办，大家都是出来卖的，谁也不愿意拿自己的销量去赌，斯巴鲁只要自己保证单车利润，能做到不亏钱，那就皆大欢喜，毕竟美国市场才是斯巴鲁的重中之重。况且，就算引入2.4T发动机，就算价格比现在定的再便宜一些，其实买的人估计也不会比现在能增加多少，斯巴鲁在中国基本上没什么钱去搞营销，整个销售体系在国内也被庞大集团一家独占，至于什么坚持、情怀、工匠精神……这些都只能说说而已，作为车企首要任务是赚钱活下去，看看当年的萨博，现在坟头都长草了。所以，与其去强行顺应市场作出一些改变，还不如先半死不活的造车卖车，等装备CB18发动机的傲虎和森林人进入国内之后，再通过与丰田的合作，实现CB18发动机与丰田THS混动技术的融合，通过混动车型的销售来满足积分需求，进而再引入口碑和招牌车型。在我看来，斯巴鲁这个品牌你说它聪明吧，它其实挺傻的，中国市场这么大一块蛋糕摆在它面前，结果自己不仅不会吃，而且连吃饭的家伙也跟不上，自己还要面对积分和油耗双重难题，弄的旗下招牌车型根本进不来。但是，你说斯巴鲁傻吧，它其实也挺聪明的，至少斯巴鲁明白，自己应该造个什么样的车，而不是像那个和它合作的日系厂家一样，在消费者看不见的地方偷偷摸摸的减配点东西，有点大智若愚的感觉，也算是小厂的坚持吧。斯巴鲁傲虎的竞争对手？没有！傲虎的竞争对手都有哪些？在30万左右的价位，很难找到一款像傲虎这么特殊的车。虽然很多网站都将傲虎归类为中型SUV，但我觉得这并不贴切，准确来说这是一款介于轿车与SUV之间的中型跨界旅行车，同理，自家的XV是低一级别的紧凑型跨界旅行车，斯巴鲁在售的只有森林人是非常标准的SUV。如果非要说傲虎像什么，它很像奥迪的Allroad系列和沃尔沃的Cross Country系列，既保留了轿车的驾驶感、操控感，同时兼具SUV的高通过性。但即使是这两个系列中最便宜的A4 allroad quattro探索家（41.88万）和V90 Cross Country B5 AWD智远版（44.79万），指导价都远超傲虎。即使是目前优惠巨大的V90CC智远版，裸车大概38万左右，落地也要43万左右，而中期改款后的A4 allroad去年底刚刚上市，优惠还没有到位，稍微带点配置就要奔着落地45万去了。所以，傲虎在这个价位没有直接竞争对手。有意思的是，选择傲虎的人，当初很多是在同价位的SUV中纠结，而非看上去更相似的旅行车。也许每一位傲虎车主都有一颗“撒野”的心，他们更加在意通过性，大多数旅行车是没有通过性可言的，而傲虎在通过性和装载性上都得到了相应的保证，唯一美中不足的，就是这台车在驾驶的时候，你会有一种这不像一台斯巴鲁的感觉，因为斯巴鲁引以为豪的就是水平对置发动机带来的低重心，但是傲虎为了保证离地间隙和通过性，把离地高度弄的挺高的，所以这也带来了一个矛盾点，想越野这台车性能又不是特别够，想在城市道路或者高速路去跑，又没有传统的旅行车那么舒服，只有在非铺装路面或者坑洼路面上，才能比较好的体会这台车到底“香”在哪里。除了类似于斯巴鲁傲虎这样的旅行车之外，我们再来聊一聊，同价位可以买到什么样的SUV，因为傲虎这台车实际上就是在切旅行车和SUV之间的夹缝。以傲虎现在的售价来看，主流点的SUV有丰田汉兰达（23.98-30.68万）、福特锐界（22.98-30.98万）、福特探险者（30.98-39.98万）、大众途昂（29.99-45.99万）、别克昂科旗（27.99-37.99万）、雪佛兰开拓者（22.99-32.99万），当然还有之前我们聊过的六缸大自吸现代帕里斯帝（29.88-32.98万）。你会发现，这个价位的合资SUV，至少已是7座中型SUV的级别，甚至像探险者、途昂、昂科旗、开拓者和帕里斯帝这样的已经上至中大型SUV了。而在这些车当中，以30万左右裸车的预算，除了探险者和帕里斯帝你只能买到低配以外，其他车都已经可以买到中配、甚至高配了。并且，这些SUV相比傲虎来看，不仅通过性更好，收起第三排座椅后也有一定的装载能力，在家用层面，每一款车都更加符合主流群体的审美取向与使用习惯。但傲虎身上有一样特质是这些车没有的，那就是调性，最后选择傲虎的人，我只能说他们身上“生活的重担”压得还不够沉，花钱去彰显调性并不是谁都有条件做到的。同样的预算，再看一看豪华品牌紧凑型SUV，它们的中低配普遍比傲虎更便宜。比如宝马X1（27.98-33.98万）、凯迪拉克XT4（25.97-39.17万）、林肯冒险家（24.68-34.58万）、沃尔沃XC40（26.48-38.58万）、讴歌CDX（22.98-34.98万）。而且除了冒险家，其他车都有比较可观的优惠，动不动就好几万。你也许会说以上这些车都低了一个级别，没可比性。那么以同样的预算，你还可以买到优惠巨大的二线豪华中型SUV，凯迪拉克XT5全系最低配落地甚至已经跌到30万左右，比傲虎最低配的定价还便宜，再加个几万块甚至可以落地XT6了，这可是高一级别的6/7座中大型SUV。与此同时还有沃尔沃XC60，2.0T高功率的T5版本低配落地32万以内，也相当贴近傲虎裸车的定价。此外还有英菲尼迪QX50、路虎发现运动版、揽胜极光、讴歌RDX……它们的低配车型优惠后也都掉入了傲虎的价格区间之中，甚至更低。所以对比这些SUV车型来看，游走在夹缝之中的傲虎，其实并不能剩下多少的生存空间，看重实用性的客户，可以去选择合资7座的中型甚至中大型SUV，看重品牌力的客户，也有大把的豪华品牌SUV可选，以至于傲虎成为了一款无法吸引主流购买力的车，也注定是一款只属于少数人的大玩具。顺带一提，很多傲虎的潜在买家都在担心水平对置发动机的养护费用，这一点大可放心，因为水平对置发动机在日常维护保养的费用，与普通的发动机并没有什么特别大的差别，你需要担心的，更多是将来不巧发动机坏了需要大修，或者一些需要修理的配件没有库存，需要从海外发货，那么你就要面临漫长的等待。傲虎适合什么样的人？应该是什么样的人适合傲虎那么，什么样的人适合傲虎？我觉得答案一定是“少数人”，如果用一句话来概括傲虎这台车，那就是：傲虎这种SUV和旅行车的结合体，不一定样样都拔尖，但它每一样都会一点。按照常理来看，这种“中庸”的车型应该非常符合国内市场的胃口，因为这种车做的其实和丰田有异曲同工之妙，都是属于80分主义下的产物，可为什么斯巴鲁的接受度还是这么低？我觉得，这里面除了国内外文化差异的因素以外（旅行车的小众窘境，就是典型的由文化差异导致的结果），更多原因还是出在傲虎自己身上。首先，傲虎在国内的定价实在是没什么诚意，北美2.5L版本26000多美金起售，折合人民币17万多，同样标配EyeSight（但是美版配备的是EyeSight 3.0，国内是介于3.0和4.0之间的产品），拉到国内定一个31.28万起的售价。而我们之前聊过的现代帕里斯帝，北美32000多美金起售，折合人民币21万左右，在国内也只定到了29.88万起。同样都是进口车，帕里斯帝在北美起价还高了6000美金，相当于4万人民币，别忘了它还是3.5L的V6发动机，交着更高的排量税，结果回过头来定价和傲虎差不多，所以就让人有点看不懂，斯巴鲁玩的到底是哪一出？其次，全新傲虎并没有带来特别大的改变。除了外观变动、内饰升级，在发动机、变速箱、四驱系统上并没有肉眼可见的改进，这次最大的遗憾，就是没有引入新的2.4T水平对置发动机，但回过头想想，曾经2.0T的傲虎卖到了35.98万，如果2.4T引进了，按照斯巴鲁在傲虎上惯用的高冷定价风格，怕不是奔着40多万去了。至于和同价位SUV对比，傲虎产品力和性价比上的不足会被无限放大，摆在明面上的东西也没做好：过于保守的内饰、老旧的动力系统、羸弱的动力……同时对于绝大多数追求实用性的客户来说，进口车的维修保养反而是个累赘，而且2.5L的排量，会让自己每年的车船税都多交一点。对于主流消费者来说，以上不管是哪一样小问题，单拎出来一个就足够让消费者把傲虎从意向车型中移除，但是，傲虎作为同价位极少数的跨界旅行车，它身上所展现出的特殊性，确实能够取悦那些少数的、追求个性的消费者。所以，傲虎这台车在国内就变的很挑剔，而且不是你在挑傲虎的毛病，是傲虎在挑你适不适合做它的车主。音频图文更新在订阅号：百车全说每期抽三条留言，每人赠168元的“芥末绿”燃油添加剂一瓶点击订阅，每周三，周六更新会有提醒新听友可以搜索：百车全说2014，百车全说2015，百车全说2016，往期300多个小时的节目可供收听

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Platform”，这也是这么多年以来斯巴鲁车辆平台的首次更新，未来斯巴鲁的很多产品也都将出自这个平台，除了针对安全性、行驶性能、舒适性和环保方面进行提升之外，最为核心的就是在这套平台下诞生的产品，未来还会搭载多种类型的动力系统，包括汽油发动机、混合动力和纯电动力。简单来说，就是斯巴鲁这套SGP平台下的产物，在安全性方面会比以往更好，并且今后的动力总成的适配性更强。其次，我们来聊一聊全新傲虎的动力系统。之前很多人都说，对于斯巴鲁傲虎这台车，或者说对于所有的斯巴鲁出品的车辆，你永远不能光看它的表面，更要看它的内在，比如水平对置发动机、四驱系统等等，但是如果你看过或者开过之前老款2.0T版本的傲虎，你对现款车型最直观的感受肯定是“想当年猛虎有蛮力，看如今病虎不如鸡”。在2015年-2017年时候，斯巴鲁曾经推出过2.0T的傲虎（同期还有2.0T版本的力狮），发动机输出功率达到了241马力/350牛米，那个动力输出和现在这套169马力/252牛米的2.5L发动机简直是天壤之别，不过比较惨淡的是，之前2.0T版本的傲虎和力狮，在当年总共卖了也就不到500台。回到现款车型使用的2.5L发动机来看，很多人可能会疑惑，为什么这套发动机的排量看上去挺大的，但是账面上的动力输出就这么一点？其实原因很简单，就是因为技术太老了。我们都知道，斯巴鲁过去其实也有一套代号FB25的发动机，搭载在上一代傲虎和力狮上面，而上一代FB25的发动机的技术水平其实更加落后，只有进气侧AVCS（主动阀门控制系统）、PFI（燃油进气道喷射），而且还没有可变气门正时（VVI），换言之这套发动机实际的技术水平也就是2003年左右，比已经停产的锐志上的那颗5GR发动机还要老，而现在用的这颗2.5L发动机，主要的改变就是把之前FB25的燃油进气道喷射（PFI）换成了燃油直喷（GDI），而且这个新机头的直喷压力最多只有15Mpa，并不是现在流行的35Mpa高压直喷，然后斯巴鲁给这套发动机再加了一套排气侧AVCS，其他就没了。换言之，斯巴鲁就是把自家的旧棉袄拿出来，缝三年、补三年、缝缝补补又三年，看上去是在衣服上绣了几朵花，实际上还是那件旧棉袄。所以，现在这个2.5L发动机，其实就是一套十多年前发动机，进行细微优化后的产品，在总体上并没有做太大改进，而这就导致这颗发动机的燃烧模型比较古老，不管是排放还是功率，各个方面都不是很优秀，加上这颗发动机还采用的是低压直喷，所以尾气中的颗粒物比较难控制，进而在面对国6B排放标准的时候，需要加一套颗粒捕捉器，进一步牺牲性能，于是就有现在这个169马力/252牛米的数据。当然，斯巴鲁这么弄倒不是说轻视国内市场或者区别对待，因为这个2.5L版本的车型，在斯巴鲁最为重视的美国市场也是主力车型，只有在Onyx和Limited两个顶配版本上，才有那台无缘中国市场的2.4T发动机，而国内的斯巴鲁目前在卖的就这点车，也没有混动或者新能源车型来满足积分政策，面临国内巨大的排放双积分压力，斯巴鲁根本没有多余的正积分来引进一款搭载2.4T发动机的车型。除了这颗2.5L发动机之外，很多人其实还有一个疑惑点，那就是为啥斯巴鲁目前在售的车型都要用CVT变速箱？其实主要原因就是因为它的这套代号“ACT-4”的四驱系统，而目前斯巴鲁在售车型里采用的全时四驱系统中，这套系统不仅是历史是最长的，也是驱动力分配变动量最大的一套系统。这套ACT-4的四驱系统，在变速箱的后端装备了电控多片离合器式的限滑差速器来驱动前后轮，正常状态下的前后轮扭矩分配被设置在60:40，在行驶过程中，通过探测驱动轮的滑移量和发动机扭矩，这套四驱系统可以根据不同情况，能做到从完全前驱状态（100：0）一直调整到前后轴完全连接状态（50:50），所以，这套四驱系统可以看作类似于前置前驱车的特性，在湿滑路面行驶时，后轮哪怕是出现一点点滑动，车辆都能瞬间将中央差速器锁死变成前后轴完全连接的状态，以此来防止侧滑，再加上车辆动态控制系统（VDC）会在车辆即将失控的状况下及早介入，所以说这套系统最根本的目的，是确保在低摩擦力路面上行驶的可靠性和通过性，而不是追求运动性，因为斯巴鲁自家主打运动性的四驱系统，是搭载在WRX STI上面的DCCD全时四驱系统。虽然说斯巴鲁的这套四驱系统很不错，但是这个代号ACT-4的四驱系统有个BUG，就是变速箱和四驱系统是分不开的，所以在匹配的时候很麻烦（斯巴鲁原来用4AT用了好久），斯巴鲁本身就是个小厂，也没有那么多的人力、物力和精力去做复杂的匹配，而现在用的这套CVT变速箱使用了链条传动，可以承受很高的扭矩，这样就把CVT一个老大难的问题解决了，从而可以给动力更强的发动机装备，并且CVT变速箱不仅可以省油，平顺性也是相当不错，加上斯巴鲁为这套CVT变速箱，在运动模式逻辑、模拟档位、换挡拨片等等方面做了运动化调校，对于一般人来说，日常驾驶表现其实还是过得去的。当然，你如果想要更运动的性能，这样的CVT变速箱肯定是无法满足的，斯巴鲁其实也知道这个CVT无法满足更强的运动需求，所以你会发现，真正主打性能和运动的斯巴鲁车型，要么像BRZ那样用AT变速箱，要么和WRX STI那样用手动变速箱。其实这一点我觉得斯巴鲁做的还是挺有意思的，而且给我一种这家车厂就像是一家小饭店的感觉，首先他们的菜单里绝对不会出现什么鲍鱼、海参之类的高价菜，但是老板又有一些拿手的硬菜（比如WRX STI、BRZ），你如果只是想随便吃点，那菜单里也有一些家常小炒（森林人、力狮、傲虎），甚至还会有价格更低，但是也挺下饭的菜品（XV）。再者，我们来聊一聊这套EyeSight系统。我们都知道，斯巴鲁的这套EyeSight系统一直会和动力系统去做紧密的匹配和调校，上一代搭载涡轮发动机的斯巴鲁车型，在国内都没有配备EyeSight系统，主要原因就是斯巴鲁还没做好与涡轮车匹配的EyeSight系统。简单来说，斯巴鲁EyeSight驾驶辅助系统主要具备4项功能：防碰撞制动系统（PCB）、全车速自适应巡航控制系统（ACC）、起步油门误操作预防功能和警报与提示功能，其实本质上和本田的Honda Sensing类似，都是“视觉智能化科技”，属于给车辆提升附加值和安全性的产品，只是由于斯巴鲁很久都没有这种比较“时髦”的科技配置，促使这个EyeSight系统让不少人觉得很新奇。最后，不论斯巴鲁的产品究竟如何（其实还可以），任何一家车企都是以赚钱为目的，而斯巴鲁以目前现有的产品来看，似乎很难满足中国市场的需求，但是这就导致越不满足需求、销量就越低，销量不断走低之后，斯巴鲁估计自己也没啥兴趣去满足中国市场，万一造出来了还是卖不掉怎么办，大家都是出来卖的，谁也不愿意拿自己的销量去赌，斯巴鲁只要自己保证单车利润，能做到不亏钱，那就皆大欢喜，毕竟美国市场才是斯巴鲁的重中之重。况且，就算引入2.4T发动机，就算价格比现在定的再便宜一些，其实买的人估计也不会比现在能增加多少，斯巴鲁在中国基本上没什么钱去搞营销，整个销售体系在国内也被庞大集团一家独占，至于什么坚持、情怀、工匠精神……这些都只能说说而已，作为车企首要任务是赚钱活下去，看看当年的萨博，现在坟头都长草了。所以，与其去强行顺应市场作出一些改变，还不如先半死不活的造车卖车，等装备CB18发动机的傲虎和森林人进入国内之后，再通过与丰田的合作，实现CB18发动机与丰田THS混动技术的融合，通过混动车型的销售来满足积分需求，进而再引入口碑和招牌车型。在我看来，斯巴鲁这个品牌你说它聪明吧，它其实挺傻的，中国市场这么大一块蛋糕摆在它面前，结果自己不仅不会吃，而且连吃饭的家伙也跟不上，自己还要面对积分和油耗双重难题，弄的旗下招牌车型根本进不来。但是，你说斯巴鲁傻吧，它其实也挺聪明的，至少斯巴鲁明白，自己应该造个什么样的车，而不是像那个和它合作的日系厂家一样，在消费者看不见的地方偷偷摸摸的减配点东西，有点大智若愚的感觉，也算是小厂的坚持吧。斯巴鲁傲虎的竞争对手？没有！傲虎的竞争对手都有哪些？在30万左右的价位，很难找到一款像傲虎这么特殊的车。虽然很多网站都将傲虎归类为中型SUV，但我觉得这并不贴切，准确来说这是一款介于轿车与SUV之间的中型跨界旅行车，同理，自家的XV是低一级别的紧凑型跨界旅行车，斯巴鲁在售的只有森林人是非常标准的SUV。如果非要说傲虎像什么，它很像奥迪的Allroad系列和沃尔沃的Cross Country系列，既保留了轿车的驾驶感、操控感，同时兼具SUV的高通过性。但即使是这两个系列中最便宜的A4 allroad quattro探索家（41.88万）和V90 Cross Country B5 AWD智远版（44.79万），指导价都远超傲虎。即使是目前优惠巨大的V90CC智远版，裸车大概38万左右，落地也要43万左右，而中期改款后的A4 allroad去年底刚刚上市，优惠还没有到位，稍微带点配置就要奔着落地45万去了。所以，傲虎在这个价位没有直接竞争对手。有意思的是，选择傲虎的人，当初很多是在同价位的SUV中纠结，而非看上去更相似的旅行车。也许每一位傲虎车主都有一颗“撒野”的心，他们更加在意通过性，大多数旅行车是没有通过性可言的，而傲虎在通过性和装载性上都得到了相应的保证，唯一美中不足的，就是这台车在驾驶的时候，你会有一种这不像一台斯巴鲁的感觉，因为斯巴鲁引以为豪的就是水平对置发动机带来的低重心，但是傲虎为了保证离地间隙和通过性，把离地高度弄的挺高的，所以这也带来了一个矛盾点，想越野这台车性能又不是特别够，想在城市道路或者高速路去跑，又没有传统的旅行车那么舒服，只有在非铺装路面或者坑洼路面上，才能比较好的体会这台车到底“香”在哪里。除了类似于斯巴鲁傲虎这样的旅行车之外，我们再来聊一聊，同价位可以买到什么样的SUV，因为傲虎这台车实际上就是在切旅行车和SUV之间的夹缝。以傲虎现在的售价来看，主流点的SUV有丰田汉兰达（23.98-30.68万）、福特锐界（22.98-30.98万）、福特探险者（30.98-39.98万）、大众途昂（29.99-45.99万）、别克昂科旗（27.99-37.99万）、雪佛兰开拓者（22.99-32.99万），当然还有之前我们聊过的六缸大自吸现代帕里斯帝（29.88-32.98万）。你会发现，这个价位的合资SUV，至少已是7座中型SUV的级别，甚至像探险者、途昂、昂科旗、开拓者和帕里斯帝这样的已经上至中大型SUV了。而在这些车当中，以30万左右裸车的预算，除了探险者和帕里斯帝你只能买到低配以外，其他车都已经可以买到中配、甚至高配了。并且，这些SUV相比傲虎来看，不仅通过性更好，收起第三排座椅后也有一定的装载能力，在家用层面，每一款车都更加符合主流群体的审美取向与使用习惯。但傲虎身上有一样特质是这些车没有的，那就是调性，最后选择傲虎的人，我只能说他们身上“生活的重担”压得还不够沉，花钱去彰显调性并不是谁都有条件做到的。同样的预算，再看一看豪华品牌紧凑型SUV，它们的中低配普遍比傲虎更便宜。比如宝马X1（27.98-33.98万）、凯迪拉克XT4（25.97-39.17万）、林肯冒险家（24.68-34.58万）、沃尔沃XC40（26.48-38.58万）、讴歌CDX（22.98-34.98万）。而且除了冒险家，其他车都有比较可观的优惠，动不动就好几万。你也许会说以上这些车都低了一个级别，没可比性。那么以同样的预算，你还可以买到优惠巨大的二线豪华中型SUV，凯迪拉克XT5全系最低配落地甚至已经跌到30万左右，比傲虎最低配的定价还便宜，再加个几万块甚至可以落地XT6了，这可是高一级别的6/7座中大型SUV。与此同时还有沃尔沃XC60，2.0T高功率的T5版本低配落地32万以内，也相当贴近傲虎裸车的定价。此外还有英菲尼迪QX50、路虎发现运动版、揽胜极光、讴歌RDX……它们的低配车型优惠后也都掉入了傲虎的价格区间之中，甚至更低。所以对比这些SUV车型来看，游走在夹缝之中的傲虎，其实并不能剩下多少的生存空间，看重实用性的客户，可以去选择合资7座的中型甚至中大型SUV，看重品牌力的客户，也有大把的豪华品牌SUV可选，以至于傲虎成为了一款无法吸引主流购买力的车，也注定是一款只属于少数人的大玩具。顺带一提，很多傲虎的潜在买家都在担心水平对置发动机的养护费用，这一点大可放心，因为水平对置发动机在日常维护保养的费用，与普通的发动机并没有什么特别大的差别，你需要担心的，更多是将来不巧发动机坏了需要大修，或者一些需要修理的配件没有库存，需要从海外发货，那么你就要面临漫长的等待。傲虎适合什么样的人？应该是什么样的人适合傲虎那么，什么样的人适合傲虎？我觉得答案一定是“少数人”，如果用一句话来概括傲虎这台车，那就是：傲虎这种SUV和旅行车的结合体，不一定样样都拔尖，但它每一样都会一点。按照常理来看，这种“中庸”的车型应该非常符合国内市场的胃口，因为这种车做的其实和丰田有异曲同工之妙，都是属于80分主义下的产物，可为什么斯巴鲁的接受度还是这么低？我觉得，这里面除了国内外文化差异的因素以外（旅行车的小众窘境，就是典型的由文化差异导致的结果），更多原因还是出在傲虎自己身上。首先，傲虎在国内的定价实在是没什么诚意，北美2.5L版本26000多美金起售，折合人民币17万多，同样标配EyeSight（但是美版配备的是EyeSight 3.0，国内是介于3.0和4.0之间的产品），拉到国内定一个31.28万起的售价。而我们之前聊过的现代帕里斯帝，北美32000多美金起售，折合人民币21万左右，在国内也只定到了29.88万起。同样都是进口车，帕里斯帝在北美起价还高了6000美金，相当于4万人民币，别忘了它还是3.5L的V6发动机，交着更高的排量税，结果回过头来定价和傲虎差不多，所以就让人有点看不懂，斯巴鲁玩的到底是哪一出？其次，全新傲虎并没有带来特别大的改变。除了外观变动、内饰升级，在发动机、变速箱、四驱系统上并没有肉眼可见的改进，这次最大的遗憾，就是没有引入新的2.4T水平对置发动机，但回过头想想，曾经2.0T的傲虎卖到了35.98万，如果2.4T引进了，按照斯巴鲁在傲虎上惯用的高冷定价风格，怕不是奔着40多万去了。至于和同价位SUV对比，傲虎产品力和性价比上的不足会被无限放大，摆在明面上的东西也没做好：过于保守的内饰、老旧的动力系统、羸弱的动力……同时对于绝大多数追求实用性的客户来说，进口车的维修保养反而是个累赘，而且2.5L的排量，会让自己每年的车船税都多交一点。对于主流消费者来说，以上不管是哪一样小问题，单拎出来一个就足够让消费者把傲虎从意向车型中移除，但是，傲虎作为同价位极少数的跨界旅行车，它身上所展现出的特殊性，确实能够取悦那些少数的、追求个性的消费者。所以，傲虎这台车在国内就变的很挑剔，而且不是你在挑傲虎的毛病，是傲虎在挑你适不适合做它的车主。音频图文更新在订阅号：百车全说每期抽三条留言，每人赠168元的“芥末绿”燃油添加剂一瓶点击订阅，每周三，周六更新会有提醒新听友可以搜索：百车全说2014，百车全说2015，百车全说2016，往期300多个小时的节目可供收听

※ 本文章发布于订阅号：百车全说，订阅号阅读更加方便，欢迎关注前段时间，我发了一个关于沃尔沃V90CC的微博，我说这台车的配置其实很不合理，沃尔沃V90CC智远版指导价44.79万，优惠后裸车价格38万不到，落地在43万左右，看着价格挺香，实际上这台车的配置非常不合理，因为在这个44.79万的智远版上面，还有一个55.69万元的高配智尊版，要知道V90CC在国内现在只有高低两个配置，所以就弄的人很迷惑，这两个版本之间差价怎么就能达到将近11万？关于这台车，我也是在身边做了一个小小的调研，并且也询问了一些买V90CC的客户，其实大多数车主都是更想要指导价55.69万的智尊版高配车型，因为那个版本配备的通风按摩座椅和宝华韦健音响确实有点香，可是后期维护费用较高的空气悬架又是他们不想要的，再者就是两个配置的差价确实太大了，所以V90CC这台车的矛盾点一下就出来了，那就是缺少一个折中的方案来满足消费者的需求，这就像你去火锅店吃饭，老板上来就告诉你，要么你就选个重麻重辣的锅底，要么你就来个清汤锅，而且还不让你自己加辣椒。所以，我总觉得沃尔沃完全可以再增加一个配置，去掉空气悬架、HUD抬头显示这类配置，然后弄一个指导价在50万以内的中配车型……于是我就把这个想法发到了微博上，发现下面就很多人在评论，我没想到这种小众的旅行车竟然还有如此之高的关注度，在我的印象当中，这种车型完全就是两极分化，喜欢的二话不说刷卡买回家，不喜欢的怎么说都不喜欢，而且回顾2020年的销量，沃尔沃V60和V90CC这两台旅行车其实一个月也就卖个一两百台，属于冷门车中的冷门车，所以今天借着这个话题，和各位好好的聊一聊旅行车。沃尔沃的V60与V90CC既然说到了沃尔沃，那自然是要先聊聊目前在售的沃尔沃旅行车，其实也就两台：V60和V90 cross country。首先是V60，这是基于S60设计的旅行车，也可以理解成S60的旅行版本，由于V60是进口车，所以它的指导价定在了30.43-39.58万，目前在售的V60分为197马力的2.0T低功率B4车型，以及250马力的2.0T高功率B5车型，共计四款配置可选，而和V60同根同源的S60则只需要28.69-38.09万。很多朋友第一次在看V60的时候，其实会发现这台车比S60贵不了多少，还是纯原装进口，顿时就觉得香喷喷，但实际上S60作为沃尔沃的走量车型，4S店已经放出了7-8万的优惠，而沃尔沃对V60的定调就是小众车，也有可能是沃尔沃明白没有多少人去买，所以直接采用了“官网直销”的模式，不跟你扯什么优惠不优惠的事情，想买就官网下单然后到店提车，要知道之前2019款的V60优惠能到6万左右，现在2021款虽然比2020款官降了3-4万，但是成交价没有优惠，这么一弄相当于变相涨价了2万。所以，沃尔沃V60和S60的价格实际差了接近10万，并且V60作为进口车，后续的维修价格也不便宜（至少在4S店修车是这样的），但实际上V60与S60的零配件共通程度非常高，有很多部分完全可以用S60的国产配件去替代V60的进口配件，所以去外面的修理厂维修，可以节省一大笔开销。尽管V60实际成交价格比国产后的S60高了不少，但是在硬性产品力上，沃尔沃V60并没有与S60拉开足够大的差距，如果你是一个理性的、务实的消费者，进口的V60相比国产的S60简直毫无性价比可言，但旅行车的玩家们通常都比较感性，所以也不太会死咬着性价比不放，毕竟在当下的市场环境里，大多数旅行车本身就不具备可比性，想要追求小众、玩调性，那钱包肯定是要付出一点代价的。那么如果单纯和市场在售同级别、同价位的旅行车、猎装车对比一下，V60的主要竞争对手有：29.98-38.18万的奔驰CLA猎跑车、36.08-39.28万的奔驰C级旅行轿车、34.98-38.98万的奥迪A4 Avant、41.88万的奥迪A4 ALLROAD……这些车型全部都是进口车。这里面，最凹造型的是CLA猎跑，但也是性价比最低的旅行车，一台紧凑型轿车的底子加上总共就两款配置可选，想省点钱买个29.98万的版本，那就只能得到一个可怜兮兮的1.3T发动机，想要2.0T发动机，那就得加钱去买38.18万的版本，同时它在奔驰的车型定位中属于猎跑车（这一点和之前CLS猎装版类似），所以车身线条从B柱开始急剧下溜，实用性注定没有传统的旅行车高，不过这台车确实很好看，猎跑造型、无框车门、较低的离地间隙……只是这凹造型的代价确实大了点。而A4 ALLROAD也是一个“异类”，allraod其实本身是旅行车在强化通过性之后的产物，类似斯巴鲁傲虎，但后者准确来说是介于旅行车和SUV之间的跨界车，目前在售的A4 ALLROAD只有41.88万一个配置可选，但它的三大件非常强悍：252马力的2.0T高功率发动机，搭配quattro ultra适时四驱系统，同时配置也不低，但就这个价格嘛……你懂的。撇开那两台车不谈，和V60一样同属正统旅行车的现在看来只有C级旅行轿车和A4 Avant，这两车路上的能见度都比V60要高一些。其中，奔驰的C级旅行目前全系配备1.5T发动机，分高低功率共计两款配置，其本身36.08万的起步价也比V60 2.0T高功率B5车型贵一点，毕竟车头前面的奔驰大标放在那儿，再加上进口车的身份，价格自然不会低。而A4 Avant配备的204马力-2.0T发动机也只能算是中功率，同时全系没有四驱，34.98万的起步价和V60的高功率B5车型相同，所以沃尔沃V60的优势似乎也只有从最低配开始就配备了主动安全配置，再往上又加入了ACC自适应巡航……这里面很多东西在C级旅行和A4 Avant上要么是选装项，要么干脆就没有，但如果你在这三款车中纠结，与其说是纠结它们的产品力，不如说更多纠结的是它们的品牌力。聊完了V60，接着我们再聊聊依然是全进口的V90CC，这台车在只上市了Cross Country的版本，最直观的区别就是那套越野轮眉和更高的离地间隙，不过现在可以在官网选择与车身同色的轮眉，但是如果你这样选配，那你只能选择“松林灰金属漆”。沃尔沃V90CC的配置也非常简单粗暴，总共就两款2.0T高功率的配置，44.79万的B5智远版和55.69万的B5智尊版，但是V90CC与V60不同，它并不是官网直销，你在4S店是可以看到它的，所以V90CC实际上有一定的优惠幅度，最低配的B5智远版优惠后38万不到，比原价销售的顶配V60还便宜，只不过目前国产S90的优惠幅度巨大，指导价40.69-50.59万，低配优惠后30万左右的裸车，怎么看V90CC都只能成为小众的选择。V90CC和S90的发动机与变速箱是一致的，全系250马力的高功率B系列发动机，带有48V轻混系统，匹配8AT变速箱，实际上V90CC与S90的区别，要远大于V60与S60的区别，因为V90CC有一套全时四驱系统，而目前国内在售的S90、V60和S60都是前驱车（其中S90和S60有T8版本的四驱车型），这也是沃尔沃的Cross Country或者奥迪的ALLROAD系列这种细分旅行车型与很多传统旅行车另一个明显区别。还有一个有意思的地方，V90CC的后悬架叫“多连杆式整体后桥”，而非S90上常见的多连杆式独立悬架，看图片像是板悬，但它通过叶片弹簧的设计，让桥式结构负责承载，由于下摆臂的存在，左右车轮可以互不干涉，所以依然保留了独立悬挂的特性。反观V90CC的竞争对手，目前只有奥迪45.28-47.98万的A6 Avant和56.98万的ALLROAD，放在前两年还有捷豹XF Sportbrake，也是一水的进口车。其中A6 Avant是目前市面上极其稀少的中大型旅行车，可惜只有190马力、2.0T低功率的40TFSI豪华动感型和245马力、2.0T高功率的45TFSI甄选动感型，奥迪依旧没有引入四驱版的Avant车型，说实话这车和V90CC并没有非常直接的竞争关系，无非就是与V90CC低配智远版有一定的价格重叠，只要见过实车，你就知道A6 Avant与V90CC的风格相差非常多，反而是和没有越野轮眉的V90能与A6 Avant产生一些竞争，只不过咱们在国内买不到V90。撇开A6 Avant这台车来看，奥迪旗下与V90CC有直接竞争关系的应该是A6 ALLROAD，同样都有越野轮眉套件、高通过性底盘、四驱系统、空气悬架……并且56.98万的指导价也与V90CC顶配智尊版的55.69万相似。至于这两台车怎么选，我觉得还真没什么好纠结的，因为买这种车子往往都是看“眼缘”，接下来才是对比配置和价格，换言之如果自己一眼就看中了，只要钱到位，那就是刷卡买单，其他的一概不管，愿意买旅行车的消费者往往就是这么“豪横”。什么是旅行车？聊了这么多关于旅行车的问题，我发现还有一个很有意思的事情，那就是很多人搞不清“什么是旅行车”，因为在目前市面上出现过的车型里，还有一种叫“猎装车”，长的样子其实和旅行车差不多，都是有一个大屁股在后面，然后车子做成两厢掀背的造型，从类型上来看，旅行车和猎装车似乎是同一种产品，但是，这两者之间其实有很大的差别。猎装车，英文名叫“shooting brake”，这个单词和“sedan”或者“coupe”这种法语词汇不一样，shooting brake是一个实实在在的英文单词，在19世纪的时候就已经用来表示能用来装猎枪和猎物的马车，主要用处就是过去欧洲的贵族在打猎的时候，需要自己的马车有独立的货箱来装猎枪和猎物。而真正意义上能称作是第一台猎装车的汽油车，很多人都认为应该是劳斯莱斯在1910年推出的Silver Ghost（银魅）。但是，我并不这么认为，因为那时候还没有所谓的两厢车、三厢车之类的概念，更不要说什么猎装车了，换言之所谓的车辆造型，直到二战之后才初现端倪，因为在二战之后，汽车制造商们才一改之前的“大屁股”车身，开始有了追求流线型和空气动力学的溜背造型，再往后才出现了两厢、三厢、掀背车的分类。所以，如果要细究猎装车的历史，我认为应该从二战之后的魔改车型开始，比如上世纪50年代~60年代的时候，很多专业的改装厂或者改装发烧友，自己给自己的跑车硬生生的加个屁股，所以就有了诸如“法拉利250 GT SWB Breadvan”这样的魔改车型，而这也为后来的猎装车奠定了最为基本的定义，那就是猎装车是基于双门轿跑车衍生而来的一种多功能车，并且动力强劲、后备箱有足够的空间。总的来说，猎装车从诞生到发展至今，一直都有一丝所谓的“上流社会”的味道在里面，而旅行车则与之相反，它所拥有的更多是老百姓们的辛酸泪，因为wagon这个单词的由来，其实就是指代一个能装足够多的人和货的工具车。比如在19世纪美国“西进运动”的时候，无数的美国人揣着自己的家当和所谓的梦想，坐上了前往西部的wagon，只不过那会儿的wagon还是用马在拉车，所以想知道车子的动力怎么样，很简单，数数前面有几匹马就知道了。值得一提的是，“西进运动”其实是一件充满了血和泪的故事，大批印第安原住民因此遭到屠杀，幸存下来的印第安人则被赶到了更荒凉的地方（当时称作“保留地”），感兴趣的朋友可以看一下斯皮尔伯格拍的《西部风云》，里面的故事背景就是当年的西进运动。到了20世纪20年代，广大劳动人民开始用汽车的动力总成来替代马匹，再用汽车的车厢来替代马车的车厢，于是我们现在熟悉的wagon车型就问世了，由于wagon的车厢内部结构比较规整，能最大限度的装人和拉东西，所以成为了火车站或者港口附近的运输利器，这也是为什么wagon在一开始被称作“station wagon”，因为“station”翻译过来就是“站点”，意思就是在站点那儿拉人拖货的工具车，什么超载、人货混装……在当年那都不叫事儿，他们恨不得像印度那样给你再卖个挂票，毕竟大家都得吃饭，能多装点东西就能多收点钱。到了二战结束以后，由于猎装车高高在上的腔调和售价，使得很多老百姓根本触摸不到，但那时候又没有SUV车型（只有越野车），老百姓们又有装载和出行的需求，加上那会儿高速路铺天盖地的修（以欧洲和美国为主），于是基于四门轿车打造而来、空间更大、价格更低的旅行车就登上了历史舞台，那时候的人们也很好分辨，两个门的基本上就是猎装车，四个门的那就是旅行车。旅行车的历史就这样一路发展下来，当时的旅行车不论前驱、后驱还是四驱，不管你动力好与不好，人们还是更多会去在意空间够不够全家出游，后备箱能不能装下一家老小的东西，这也是为什么我们看到的很多过去的旅行车（比如桑塔纳旅行版）都有一个硕大的“屁股”，其原因就是为了满足装载需要。但是，有些汽车厂商就不喜欢按套路出牌，在20世纪70年代中期，沃尔沃出手了，当时的沃尔沃还没有被吉利收购，那会儿他们推出了一台名叫“P1800 ES”的车型，彻底打破了猎装车和旅行车的定义。从名字上来看，沃尔沃P1800 ES中的ES应该是旅行车estate的缩写，但是这辆车恰好又是一辆偏向运动的车型，因为它的本质是P1800 coupe，所以这台车跟以前人们常见的猎装车一样都是两个门，后来沃尔沃“再接再厉”的又推了一台“沃尔沃480 ES”，那台车其实摆到今天来看就像个双门跳灯版富康，但是人家沃尔沃却叫它旅行车，为此，前沃尔沃当家设计大师彼得·霍布里还特地给猎装车下了一个定义：“猎装车是三门掀背，但又不是矮胖的普通两厢车，而是修长优雅的轿跑风”。时至今日，没有人能猜到彼得·霍布里为什么要说这样的话，是不是在为沃尔沃洗地也不好说，只不过后来的旅行车的日子一天不如一天，因为SUV车型开始在历史上崭露头角，逐渐取代了人们对于旅行车的偏好，毕竟SUV的离地间隙要远高于旅行车或者猎装车，在日常使用层面的实用性更强，随着后来城市SUV进入人们的视野，旅行车或者猎装车逐渐就成为了小众的选择。如果说彼得·霍布里的一席话只是解读了他所认为的猎装车，那么奔驰则是用自家在2012年发布的CLS猎装版，以实际行动打破了以往猎装车的“规矩”，自此猎装车和旅行车的概念彻底混乱。先前的沃尔沃P1800 ES自称旅行车却是一台两门车，而奔驰CLS猎装版自称“猎装车”却有四个门……以至于在我看来，目前还能实实在在称作猎装车的，似乎也只剩下法拉利FF和GTC 4 Lusso了。而旅行车发展到现在，各家其实也都有了各家自己的名字，不再局限于过去wagon的叫法，甚至连旅行车都不再拘泥于过去的形制。从名字上来说，奔驰把自家旅行车称作Estate、奥迪称作Avant、宝马叫Touring、雪铁龙叫Tourer、标致叫SW、雷诺叫MCV、斯柯达叫Combi（之前国内在售的明锐Combi就是一台很原汁原味的旅行车，可惜生不逢时）、大众叫variant、欧宝叫Caravan……而在形制上，现在除了传统的旅行车的设计之外，各家厂商的花样也是越来越多，比如才进国内没多久的新款奔驰CLA猎跑车（Shooting Brake），其本质还是一个旅行车，只是冠用了猎装车的名号，又比如沃尔沃V90 Cross Country、奥迪A4 ALLROAD、A6 ALLROAD这种加高底盘离地间隙的旅行车，再比如斯巴鲁傲虎这种SUV和旅行车的跨界结合，以及类似大众CC猎装版这种四不像车型……以目前的在售新车来看（二手车不算），咱们能买到的最贵的旅行车，应该就是“Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Tourismo”，这也应该算是出厂性能最强的旅行车了，起售价238.5万，算上选配和其他费用，落地价格突破300万属于常规操作；而咱们能买到的最便宜的旅行车，那应该是“宝骏310W”，这车指导价只要5.28万-7.28万，其实就是在宝骏310的基础上硬生生的加了个“大屁股”。“旅行”的意义在充分了解什么是旅行车之后，肯定有朋友在心里会发问：买旅行车的的意义在哪里？首先，我们都知道旅行车的价格，普遍略高于正常版本的车辆。比如之前2018款的大众蔚揽，起售指导价就订到了24.38万，而如果你想真正体验到蔚揽这台车，最起码也要买个39.28万的四驱纵行版，更别说再往上的顶配四驱拓行版定价达到了40.08万……我相信，绝大多数人在看到这个价格之后，其实心里就已经把旅行车给PASS掉了，毕竟同根同源的迈腾在当年的售价只要18.99万-31.69万。其次，现在很多厂家其实根本就没有搞懂真正的旅行车消费者要的是什么，甚至可以说是“揣着明白装糊涂”。比如奥迪A4 Avant在海外有高功率2.0T发动机+四驱版本，但是到了国内就只有低功率2.0T发动机+前驱版本，想要四驱车型，那不好意思，你只能去买A4 ALLROAD这种车，假使奥迪把自家A4 Avant高功四驱版车型拉到国内来，然后定的价格和A4 ALLROAD差不多，我都不提什么选配空气悬挂、20寸轮毂之类的事情，只要来个高功四驱的A4 Avant，销量肯定比现在的A4 Avant要好。我们都知道，真正去买旅行车的客户，多多少少都是有点情怀的，并且是有自己需求点的，像CC猎装版、福克斯猎装版这些车子，厂家偏要加一圈越野轮眉，还把底盘还给抬高，强行去蹭SUV车型的名头，弄个什么所谓的“跨界风”，我就想问问有几个旅行车爱好者是喜欢这个的？要知道，喜欢旅行车的人，他们想要的是更加优雅一些的车身，而不是好好的一台车给加上了一圈“傻大黑粗”的越野轮眉，使得好好的“潘安”变成了“张飞”。当然，这种越野轮眉并不是说没有办法解决，目前像诸如A4 ALLROAD这样的车，国内已经有包围厂商推出了去除轮眉版的包围件，包含了前保总成、后保总成、侧裙和叶子板，当然后叶子板那块还得自己补腻子，因为后轮眉拆掉之后会有卡扣留下的洞……如果觉得这样的做法费用较高的话，也有便宜一点的方法，那就是去贴个改色膜，把这套轮眉包裹住，或者是找个修理厂做个与车身同色的油漆，甚至可以通过刮腻子的方法把轮眉和车身的接缝盖住，从而打造出一种类似于宽体的效果。最后，旅行车其实并不符合咱们绝大多数消费者的用车需求。旅行车在海外市场能够发展至今，其本身的优势在于空间大、装载能力强，但是国内现在很多车型都进行了加长，以奔驰C级长轴轿车和C级旅行版为例，普通轿车版本的轴距达到了2920mm，但是旅行版的轴距只有2840mm，和标轴版的C级一样，所以空间大这种优势直接荡然无存，唯一剩下的优点就是后备箱能装的东西多，可是如果你去选择SUV车型，不仅能有差不多的装载空间，而且还能有更高一些的离地间隙，通过性也会比正常的旅行车要好很多。放在当下的环境来看，我们撇开奥迪RS4、RS6这种披着旅行车外衣的性能车不谈，就单单去聊一下正常的旅行车，我思考了半天，觉得买旅行车的意义只有两个：1. 旅行车拥有和SUV差不多的装载力，但是有更低的离地间隙，从而获得相对好一些的驾驶体验；2. 通过对小众车型的拥有，可以彰显自己与众不同的品位与追求，说的再直白点就是可以“装X”。写在最后总的来说，旅行车在国内销量遇冷，我觉得属于意料之中的事情，因为这种车辆确实不太符合我们的国情，也不是很符合大多数老百姓的需求。想追求驾驶和操控的客户，不会去选择旅行车，毕竟还有那么多主打运动车辆摆在面前，普通的旅行车拖个大屁股在后面，也很难去说运动性能有多好；而追求实用的客户，也很难从旅行车身上看到完全碾压SUV车型的地方，甚至可以说SUV车型的实用程度会高于不少旅行车……加上现在国内能买到的旅行车本来就很少，价格相对于同级别的SUV或者轿车来说会高一些，并且有不少旅行车进入国内之后直接进行“反向操作”，一改之前的优美造型，所以几方面因素一叠加，自然很难打动大多数消费者的心。毕竟，情怀无价，但买车是真要花钱的，如果这个买车的钱还不是自己出，那势必更要去考量他人的看法和需求，而不是由着自己的喜好来买车。*图片源自网络音频图文更新在订阅号： 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※ 本文章发布于订阅号：百车全说，订阅号阅读更加方便，欢迎关注前段时间，我发了一个关于沃尔沃V90CC的微博，我说这台车的配置其实很不合理，沃尔沃V90CC智远版指导价44.79万，优惠后裸车价格38万不到，落地在43万左右，看着价格挺香，实际上这台车的配置非常不合理，因为在这个44.79万的智远版上面，还有一个55.69万元的高配智尊版，要知道V90CC在国内现在只有高低两个配置，所以就弄的人很迷惑，这两个版本之间差价怎么就能达到将近11万？关于这台车，我也是在身边做了一个小小的调研，并且也询问了一些买V90CC的客户，其实大多数车主都是更想要指导价55.69万的智尊版高配车型，因为那个版本配备的通风按摩座椅和宝华韦健音响确实有点香，可是后期维护费用较高的空气悬架又是他们不想要的，再者就是两个配置的差价确实太大了，所以V90CC这台车的矛盾点一下就出来了，那就是缺少一个折中的方案来满足消费者的需求，这就像你去火锅店吃饭，老板上来就告诉你，要么你就选个重麻重辣的锅底，要么你就来个清汤锅，而且还不让你自己加辣椒。所以，我总觉得沃尔沃完全可以再增加一个配置，去掉空气悬架、HUD抬头显示这类配置，然后弄一个指导价在50万以内的中配车型……于是我就把这个想法发到了微博上，发现下面就很多人在评论，我没想到这种小众的旅行车竟然还有如此之高的关注度，在我的印象当中，这种车型完全就是两极分化，喜欢的二话不说刷卡买回家，不喜欢的怎么说都不喜欢，而且回顾2020年的销量，沃尔沃V60和V90CC这两台旅行车其实一个月也就卖个一两百台，属于冷门车中的冷门车，所以今天借着这个话题，和各位好好的聊一聊旅行车。沃尔沃的V60与V90CC既然说到了沃尔沃，那自然是要先聊聊目前在售的沃尔沃旅行车，其实也就两台：V60和V90 cross country。首先是V60，这是基于S60设计的旅行车，也可以理解成S60的旅行版本，由于V60是进口车，所以它的指导价定在了30.43-39.58万，目前在售的V60分为197马力的2.0T低功率B4车型，以及250马力的2.0T高功率B5车型，共计四款配置可选，而和V60同根同源的S60则只需要28.69-38.09万。很多朋友第一次在看V60的时候，其实会发现这台车比S60贵不了多少，还是纯原装进口，顿时就觉得香喷喷，但实际上S60作为沃尔沃的走量车型，4S店已经放出了7-8万的优惠，而沃尔沃对V60的定调就是小众车，也有可能是沃尔沃明白没有多少人去买，所以直接采用了“官网直销”的模式，不跟你扯什么优惠不优惠的事情，想买就官网下单然后到店提车，要知道之前2019款的V60优惠能到6万左右，现在2021款虽然比2020款官降了3-4万，但是成交价没有优惠，这么一弄相当于变相涨价了2万。所以，沃尔沃V60和S60的价格实际差了接近10万，并且V60作为进口车，后续的维修价格也不便宜（至少在4S店修车是这样的），但实际上V60与S60的零配件共通程度非常高，有很多部分完全可以用S60的国产配件去替代V60的进口配件，所以去外面的修理厂维修，可以节省一大笔开销。尽管V60实际成交价格比国产后的S60高了不少，但是在硬性产品力上，沃尔沃V60并没有与S60拉开足够大的差距，如果你是一个理性的、务实的消费者，进口的V60相比国产的S60简直毫无性价比可言，但旅行车的玩家们通常都比较感性，所以也不太会死咬着性价比不放，毕竟在当下的市场环境里，大多数旅行车本身就不具备可比性，想要追求小众、玩调性，那钱包肯定是要付出一点代价的。那么如果单纯和市场在售同级别、同价位的旅行车、猎装车对比一下，V60的主要竞争对手有：29.98-38.18万的奔驰CLA猎跑车、36.08-39.28万的奔驰C级旅行轿车、34.98-38.98万的奥迪A4 Avant、41.88万的奥迪A4 ALLROAD……这些车型全部都是进口车。这里面，最凹造型的是CLA猎跑，但也是性价比最低的旅行车，一台紧凑型轿车的底子加上总共就两款配置可选，想省点钱买个29.98万的版本，那就只能得到一个可怜兮兮的1.3T发动机，想要2.0T发动机，那就得加钱去买38.18万的版本，同时它在奔驰的车型定位中属于猎跑车（这一点和之前CLS猎装版类似），所以车身线条从B柱开始急剧下溜，实用性注定没有传统的旅行车高，不过这台车确实很好看，猎跑造型、无框车门、较低的离地间隙……只是这凹造型的代价确实大了点。而A4 ALLROAD也是一个“异类”，allraod其实本身是旅行车在强化通过性之后的产物，类似斯巴鲁傲虎，但后者准确来说是介于旅行车和SUV之间的跨界车，目前在售的A4 ALLROAD只有41.88万一个配置可选，但它的三大件非常强悍：252马力的2.0T高功率发动机，搭配quattro ultra适时四驱系统，同时配置也不低，但就这个价格嘛……你懂的。撇开那两台车不谈，和V60一样同属正统旅行车的现在看来只有C级旅行轿车和A4 Avant，这两车路上的能见度都比V60要高一些。其中，奔驰的C级旅行目前全系配备1.5T发动机，分高低功率共计两款配置，其本身36.08万的起步价也比V60 2.0T高功率B5车型贵一点，毕竟车头前面的奔驰大标放在那儿，再加上进口车的身份，价格自然不会低。而A4 Avant配备的204马力-2.0T发动机也只能算是中功率，同时全系没有四驱，34.98万的起步价和V60的高功率B5车型相同，所以沃尔沃V60的优势似乎也只有从最低配开始就配备了主动安全配置，再往上又加入了ACC自适应巡航……这里面很多东西在C级旅行和A4 Avant上要么是选装项，要么干脆就没有，但如果你在这三款车中纠结，与其说是纠结它们的产品力，不如说更多纠结的是它们的品牌力。聊完了V60，接着我们再聊聊依然是全进口的V90CC，这台车在只上市了Cross Country的版本，最直观的区别就是那套越野轮眉和更高的离地间隙，不过现在可以在官网选择与车身同色的轮眉，但是如果你这样选配，那你只能选择“松林灰金属漆”。沃尔沃V90CC的配置也非常简单粗暴，总共就两款2.0T高功率的配置，44.79万的B5智远版和55.69万的B5智尊版，但是V90CC与V60不同，它并不是官网直销，你在4S店是可以看到它的，所以V90CC实际上有一定的优惠幅度，最低配的B5智远版优惠后38万不到，比原价销售的顶配V60还便宜，只不过目前国产S90的优惠幅度巨大，指导价40.69-50.59万，低配优惠后30万左右的裸车，怎么看V90CC都只能成为小众的选择。V90CC和S90的发动机与变速箱是一致的，全系250马力的高功率B系列发动机，带有48V轻混系统，匹配8AT变速箱，实际上V90CC与S90的区别，要远大于V60与S60的区别，因为V90CC有一套全时四驱系统，而目前国内在售的S90、V60和S60都是前驱车（其中S90和S60有T8版本的四驱车型），这也是沃尔沃的Cross Country或者奥迪的ALLROAD系列这种细分旅行车型与很多传统旅行车另一个明显区别。还有一个有意思的地方，V90CC的后悬架叫“多连杆式整体后桥”，而非S90上常见的多连杆式独立悬架，看图片像是板悬，但它通过叶片弹簧的设计，让桥式结构负责承载，由于下摆臂的存在，左右车轮可以互不干涉，所以依然保留了独立悬挂的特性。反观V90CC的竞争对手，目前只有奥迪45.28-47.98万的A6 Avant和56.98万的ALLROAD，放在前两年还有捷豹XF Sportbrake，也是一水的进口车。其中A6 Avant是目前市面上极其稀少的中大型旅行车，可惜只有190马力、2.0T低功率的40TFSI豪华动感型和245马力、2.0T高功率的45TFSI甄选动感型，奥迪依旧没有引入四驱版的Avant车型，说实话这车和V90CC并没有非常直接的竞争关系，无非就是与V90CC低配智远版有一定的价格重叠，只要见过实车，你就知道A6 Avant与V90CC的风格相差非常多，反而是和没有越野轮眉的V90能与A6 Avant产生一些竞争，只不过咱们在国内买不到V90。撇开A6 Avant这台车来看，奥迪旗下与V90CC有直接竞争关系的应该是A6 ALLROAD，同样都有越野轮眉套件、高通过性底盘、四驱系统、空气悬架……并且56.98万的指导价也与V90CC顶配智尊版的55.69万相似。至于这两台车怎么选，我觉得还真没什么好纠结的，因为买这种车子往往都是看“眼缘”，接下来才是对比配置和价格，换言之如果自己一眼就看中了，只要钱到位，那就是刷卡买单，其他的一概不管，愿意买旅行车的消费者往往就是这么“豪横”。什么是旅行车？聊了这么多关于旅行车的问题，我发现还有一个很有意思的事情，那就是很多人搞不清“什么是旅行车”，因为在目前市面上出现过的车型里，还有一种叫“猎装车”，长的样子其实和旅行车差不多，都是有一个大屁股在后面，然后车子做成两厢掀背的造型，从类型上来看，旅行车和猎装车似乎是同一种产品，但是，这两者之间其实有很大的差别。猎装车，英文名叫“shooting brake”，这个单词和“sedan”或者“coupe”这种法语词汇不一样，shooting brake是一个实实在在的英文单词，在19世纪的时候就已经用来表示能用来装猎枪和猎物的马车，主要用处就是过去欧洲的贵族在打猎的时候，需要自己的马车有独立的货箱来装猎枪和猎物。而真正意义上能称作是第一台猎装车的汽油车，很多人都认为应该是劳斯莱斯在1910年推出的Silver Ghost（银魅）。但是，我并不这么认为，因为那时候还没有所谓的两厢车、三厢车之类的概念，更不要说什么猎装车了，换言之所谓的车辆造型，直到二战之后才初现端倪，因为在二战之后，汽车制造商们才一改之前的“大屁股”车身，开始有了追求流线型和空气动力学的溜背造型，再往后才出现了两厢、三厢、掀背车的分类。所以，如果要细究猎装车的历史，我认为应该从二战之后的魔改车型开始，比如上世纪50年代~60年代的时候，很多专业的改装厂或者改装发烧友，自己给自己的跑车硬生生的加个屁股，所以就有了诸如“法拉利250 GT SWB Breadvan”这样的魔改车型，而这也为后来的猎装车奠定了最为基本的定义，那就是猎装车是基于双门轿跑车衍生而来的一种多功能车，并且动力强劲、后备箱有足够的空间。总的来说，猎装车从诞生到发展至今，一直都有一丝所谓的“上流社会”的味道在里面，而旅行车则与之相反，它所拥有的更多是老百姓们的辛酸泪，因为wagon这个单词的由来，其实就是指代一个能装足够多的人和货的工具车。比如在19世纪美国“西进运动”的时候，无数的美国人揣着自己的家当和所谓的梦想，坐上了前往西部的wagon，只不过那会儿的wagon还是用马在拉车，所以想知道车子的动力怎么样，很简单，数数前面有几匹马就知道了。值得一提的是，“西进运动”其实是一件充满了血和泪的故事，大批印第安原住民因此遭到屠杀，幸存下来的印第安人则被赶到了更荒凉的地方（当时称作“保留地”），感兴趣的朋友可以看一下斯皮尔伯格拍的《西部风云》，里面的故事背景就是当年的西进运动。到了20世纪20年代，广大劳动人民开始用汽车的动力总成来替代马匹，再用汽车的车厢来替代马车的车厢，于是我们现在熟悉的wagon车型就问世了，由于wagon的车厢内部结构比较规整，能最大限度的装人和拉东西，所以成为了火车站或者港口附近的运输利器，这也是为什么wagon在一开始被称作“station wagon”，因为“station”翻译过来就是“站点”，意思就是在站点那儿拉人拖货的工具车，什么超载、人货混装……在当年那都不叫事儿，他们恨不得像印度那样给你再卖个挂票，毕竟大家都得吃饭，能多装点东西就能多收点钱。到了二战结束以后，由于猎装车高高在上的腔调和售价，使得很多老百姓根本触摸不到，但那时候又没有SUV车型（只有越野车），老百姓们又有装载和出行的需求，加上那会儿高速路铺天盖地的修（以欧洲和美国为主），于是基于四门轿车打造而来、空间更大、价格更低的旅行车就登上了历史舞台，那时候的人们也很好分辨，两个门的基本上就是猎装车，四个门的那就是旅行车。旅行车的历史就这样一路发展下来，当时的旅行车不论前驱、后驱还是四驱，不管你动力好与不好，人们还是更多会去在意空间够不够全家出游，后备箱能不能装下一家老小的东西，这也是为什么我们看到的很多过去的旅行车（比如桑塔纳旅行版）都有一个硕大的“屁股”，其原因就是为了满足装载需要。但是，有些汽车厂商就不喜欢按套路出牌，在20世纪70年代中期，沃尔沃出手了，当时的沃尔沃还没有被吉利收购，那会儿他们推出了一台名叫“P1800 ES”的车型，彻底打破了猎装车和旅行车的定义。从名字上来看，沃尔沃P1800 ES中的ES应该是旅行车estate的缩写，但是这辆车恰好又是一辆偏向运动的车型，因为它的本质是P1800 coupe，所以这台车跟以前人们常见的猎装车一样都是两个门，后来沃尔沃“再接再厉”的又推了一台“沃尔沃480 ES”，那台车其实摆到今天来看就像个双门跳灯版富康，但是人家沃尔沃却叫它旅行车，为此，前沃尔沃当家设计大师彼得·霍布里还特地给猎装车下了一个定义：“猎装车是三门掀背，但又不是矮胖的普通两厢车，而是修长优雅的轿跑风”。时至今日，没有人能猜到彼得·霍布里为什么要说这样的话，是不是在为沃尔沃洗地也不好说，只不过后来的旅行车的日子一天不如一天，因为SUV车型开始在历史上崭露头角，逐渐取代了人们对于旅行车的偏好，毕竟SUV的离地间隙要远高于旅行车或者猎装车，在日常使用层面的实用性更强，随着后来城市SUV进入人们的视野，旅行车或者猎装车逐渐就成为了小众的选择。如果说彼得·霍布里的一席话只是解读了他所认为的猎装车，那么奔驰则是用自家在2012年发布的CLS猎装版，以实际行动打破了以往猎装车的“规矩”，自此猎装车和旅行车的概念彻底混乱。先前的沃尔沃P1800 ES自称旅行车却是一台两门车，而奔驰CLS猎装版自称“猎装车”却有四个门……以至于在我看来，目前还能实实在在称作猎装车的，似乎也只剩下法拉利FF和GTC 4 Lusso了。而旅行车发展到现在，各家其实也都有了各家自己的名字，不再局限于过去wagon的叫法，甚至连旅行车都不再拘泥于过去的形制。从名字上来说，奔驰把自家旅行车称作Estate、奥迪称作Avant、宝马叫Touring、雪铁龙叫Tourer、标致叫SW、雷诺叫MCV、斯柯达叫Combi（之前国内在售的明锐Combi就是一台很原汁原味的旅行车，可惜生不逢时）、大众叫variant、欧宝叫Caravan……而在形制上，现在除了传统的旅行车的设计之外，各家厂商的花样也是越来越多，比如才进国内没多久的新款奔驰CLA猎跑车（Shooting Brake），其本质还是一个旅行车，只是冠用了猎装车的名号，又比如沃尔沃V90 Cross Country、奥迪A4 ALLROAD、A6 ALLROAD这种加高底盘离地间隙的旅行车，再比如斯巴鲁傲虎这种SUV和旅行车的跨界结合，以及类似大众CC猎装版这种四不像车型……以目前的在售新车来看（二手车不算），咱们能买到的最贵的旅行车，应该就是“Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Tourismo”，这也应该算是出厂性能最强的旅行车了，起售价238.5万，算上选配和其他费用，落地价格突破300万属于常规操作；而咱们能买到的最便宜的旅行车，那应该是“宝骏310W”，这车指导价只要5.28万-7.28万，其实就是在宝骏310的基础上硬生生的加了个“大屁股”。“旅行”的意义在充分了解什么是旅行车之后，肯定有朋友在心里会发问：买旅行车的的意义在哪里？首先，我们都知道旅行车的价格，普遍略高于正常版本的车辆。比如之前2018款的大众蔚揽，起售指导价就订到了24.38万，而如果你想真正体验到蔚揽这台车，最起码也要买个39.28万的四驱纵行版，更别说再往上的顶配四驱拓行版定价达到了40.08万……我相信，绝大多数人在看到这个价格之后，其实心里就已经把旅行车给PASS掉了，毕竟同根同源的迈腾在当年的售价只要18.99万-31.69万。其次，现在很多厂家其实根本就没有搞懂真正的旅行车消费者要的是什么，甚至可以说是“揣着明白装糊涂”。比如奥迪A4 Avant在海外有高功率2.0T发动机+四驱版本，但是到了国内就只有低功率2.0T发动机+前驱版本，想要四驱车型，那不好意思，你只能去买A4 ALLROAD这种车，假使奥迪把自家A4 Avant高功四驱版车型拉到国内来，然后定的价格和A4 ALLROAD差不多，我都不提什么选配空气悬挂、20寸轮毂之类的事情，只要来个高功四驱的A4 Avant，销量肯定比现在的A4 Avant要好。我们都知道，真正去买旅行车的客户，多多少少都是有点情怀的，并且是有自己需求点的，像CC猎装版、福克斯猎装版这些车子，厂家偏要加一圈越野轮眉，还把底盘还给抬高，强行去蹭SUV车型的名头，弄个什么所谓的“跨界风”，我就想问问有几个旅行车爱好者是喜欢这个的？要知道，喜欢旅行车的人，他们想要的是更加优雅一些的车身，而不是好好的一台车给加上了一圈“傻大黑粗”的越野轮眉，使得好好的“潘安”变成了“张飞”。当然，这种越野轮眉并不是说没有办法解决，目前像诸如A4 ALLROAD这样的车，国内已经有包围厂商推出了去除轮眉版的包围件，包含了前保总成、后保总成、侧裙和叶子板，当然后叶子板那块还得自己补腻子，因为后轮眉拆掉之后会有卡扣留下的洞……如果觉得这样的做法费用较高的话，也有便宜一点的方法，那就是去贴个改色膜，把这套轮眉包裹住，或者是找个修理厂做个与车身同色的油漆，甚至可以通过刮腻子的方法把轮眉和车身的接缝盖住，从而打造出一种类似于宽体的效果。最后，旅行车其实并不符合咱们绝大多数消费者的用车需求。旅行车在海外市场能够发展至今，其本身的优势在于空间大、装载能力强，但是国内现在很多车型都进行了加长，以奔驰C级长轴轿车和C级旅行版为例，普通轿车版本的轴距达到了2920mm，但是旅行版的轴距只有2840mm，和标轴版的C级一样，所以空间大这种优势直接荡然无存，唯一剩下的优点就是后备箱能装的东西多，可是如果你去选择SUV车型，不仅能有差不多的装载空间，而且还能有更高一些的离地间隙，通过性也会比正常的旅行车要好很多。放在当下的环境来看，我们撇开奥迪RS4、RS6这种披着旅行车外衣的性能车不谈，就单单去聊一下正常的旅行车，我思考了半天，觉得买旅行车的意义只有两个：1. 旅行车拥有和SUV差不多的装载力，但是有更低的离地间隙，从而获得相对好一些的驾驶体验；2. 通过对小众车型的拥有，可以彰显自己与众不同的品位与追求，说的再直白点就是可以“装X”。写在最后总的来说，旅行车在国内销量遇冷，我觉得属于意料之中的事情，因为这种车辆确实不太符合我们的国情，也不是很符合大多数老百姓的需求。想追求驾驶和操控的客户，不会去选择旅行车，毕竟还有那么多主打运动车辆摆在面前，普通的旅行车拖个大屁股在后面，也很难去说运动性能有多好；而追求实用的客户，也很难从旅行车身上看到完全碾压SUV车型的地方，甚至可以说SUV车型的实用程度会高于不少旅行车……加上现在国内能买到的旅行车本来就很少，价格相对于同级别的SUV或者轿车来说会高一些，并且有不少旅行车进入国内之后直接进行“反向操作”，一改之前的优美造型，所以几方面因素一叠加，自然很难打动大多数消费者的心。毕竟，情怀无价，但买车是真要花钱的，如果这个买车的钱还不是自己出，那势必更要去考量他人的看法和需求，而不是由着自己的喜好来买车。*图片源自网络音频图文更新在订阅号： 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Welcome to Overdrive, a program that ponders the particulars of motoring and transport. News 1. Audi S4 and S5 (1:50) 2. New Toyota Fortuner (2:53) 3. New Toyota Hilux (2:53) 4. Jaguar teaches driverless cars how to reduce motion sickness (2:51) 5. Active Driving Assistance Systems Do Less to Assist Drivers and More to Interfere (2:59) Interviews We spent a couple of days driving some new Audis through the picturesque areas near and up in the highlands sound west of Sydney. 1. Our resident mechanical engineer Fred Brain gives his driving impressions of the Audi Allroad and A5s (7:06) 2. And Testing cars is not just about their features and performance. It is about how well you travel and what you see when you get to a destination. We talk to Betty Villy about her historical research in Picton (18:49) You can find more information at Driven Media or previous programs are available as podcasts on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0ah6JZN8LTYURIfNs1IIBs iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/overdrive-cars-transport-and-culture/id1001084679 Go to Our Facebook page OverdriveCity https://www.facebook.com/OverdriveCityDrivenMedia/?modal=admin_todo_tour or Our YouTube site https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKyx5sv6cgF4URRmNq2JiXg/videos So, let’s start with the news Originally broadcast 15 October 2020

The guys discuss their favorite car hacks for Topic Tuesday, based upon questions from Matt S. in Dhaka, Bangladesh! They also debate ‘teenage glory days’ cars for Garrett E., who has a Miata and needs a hauler. Social media questions include the guys’ opinons about whether SUVs or cars are better for road trips, what cars are fun at slow speeds, and which "condiments" on cars make or break the design… Season 5 is available on Amazon Prime and Vimeo worldwide. Please rate and review the podcast on iTunes, the Everyday Driver show on IMDB and Amazon, and write to us with your Topic Tuesday discussions and podcast debates at everydaydrivertv@gmail.com or everydaydriver.com. Thanks for listening and share the podcast with your fellow car enthusiast friends!

Episode 193-I mean, it's just a Trailblazer. If you really want to get exactly what you want, it's going to take some work. And money. Usually a fair amount of money. In this week's episode we appreciate the individual that perfected the Buick station wagon. It took a lot of work, but the results are nothing short of stunning. We also turn our eyes to a wrecked Allroad, and try to put together the pieces of the now sadly impacted puzzle. Ooooof. Lastly, Dave once again finds himself as the sane half of the podcast as Ian suddenly takes a liking to the Saab 9-7x. Yeah, we don't know either, maybe something got mixed in with Ian's hair product this week and is making him think a little funny. Buy stuff with our hashtag brand on it! TeamClearCoat website TeamClearCoat Drivetribe TeamClearCoat YouTube Channel TeamClearCoat Instagram TeamClearCoat Twitter TeamClearCoat Facebook TeamClearCoat Video Game Recommendations on Steam

A conversation with Allied Cycle Works CEO Sam Pickman diving into the Allroad and Allied's US based production operation. Episode links: Allied Cycle Work website Allied Cycles on Instagram   Automagic Transcription (please excuse all errors) Sam, welcome to the show today. Thank you for having me. Yeah, I'm excited to get into it with you and learn more about allied cycles. Um, we've got some of your bikes in my local shop, studio Velo last night I was just there admiring the craftsmanship, so I'm really excited to dig in there, but I always like starting off by learning a little bit more about you as a cyclist and how riding off road on drop bars came into your life. Okay. Yeah, sure. So I, um, you know, I've been riding racing bikes ever since I was a little kid. I did my first mountain bike race I think when I was 14 or 15. And uh, I've always been in love with the machine itself, but also competition and, and just getting out there and writing these days. Don't do any more racing, but that's still love to get out. And uh, a ride. In terms of the off road, you know, I started out in the mountain bike side, um, and then when I went over to riding more road bike, I would still try to find sort of the dirt connectors. And stuff like that. I think that's a pretty pretty common thing. And um, and it was amazing how much more fun it was to ride the road bike off road. Uh, and so I just, I've always loved that idea and being able to sort of link really cool week together with a, um, a long dirt section through a true state forest or something's always been, I mean that's always just a great, great addition to a ride. That's amazing how much that opens up the ride when you'd can just accept that you can go off road with a drop hard bike. All of a sudden you can link things together that weren't possible before. I mean, it's amazing even with road tires, how capable it is. You know, obviously you gotta watch out for things, flats or whatever, but today with tubeless to everything and then you can get away with quite a bit. Yeah, I think I'm guilty of probably more gingerly riding my road bike then I need to be, because I certainly see plenty of people in Moran who will, you know, ride up one of the fire roads on our full on road bike without issue. Yeah. Oh yeah, no doubt about it. Do it all the time before gravel riding was cool. We were kind of giving crab or hiking all the time just on are just on a road bikes. So let's talk a little bit about your professional background before allied because I think it's interesting and it, it does, um, it lends some interest to your story and where you found yourself an ally. Sure. Yeah. So I graduated school mechanical engineering degree. I was a bike racer. It's time, uh, not a good enough bike racer to want to, uh, actually taken on as, as like a Gig. So I got a job at specialize working actually down in the test lab. And this was back when specialized in the suit? No, 14 years or something. Yeah, about 14 years ago. Specialized was not the specialized that we know today. They weren't quite a bit smaller and still had under that small business feel. And, and uh, you could, you could make a big impact in that company if you had some ambition. And, and coming into the test lab that was there was just loads of fun. I mean, we were, the company was growing so quickly. We were learning so much about, about carbon fiber time. We were learning so much about the role that a test lab could play in development of a bike. We were, uh, learning a ton about sort of all the tools available that acquisition and, and uh, it was just, I mean it was just so fun. And right around that time they also started sponsoring quickstep, which was just a cool journey into learning the true rigors of what a professional athlete does to or bike. Um, and, uh, through my time there I just sort of moved, you know, we'll give him tons of opportunity and, and, uh, it was able to move up the ranks. And when I left there, I was the engineering manager for research and development. So with all those tools, it's specialized. And given that they weren't manufacturing in house, what was the cycle like if you did an analysis on a road frame or a mountain bike frame and started to make some notes on it, how long before you could get a kid I knew version of that frame set to test. Yeah. So specialized know obviously messes a business now with, with loads of resources and, and loads of resources in research and development. And what they are able to do as specialized is sort of build this arsenal of tests that that proves that a bite is going to do something without actually having to ride it. So they can say with a high degree of confidence that the bike is going to do x before you even step on it, which is a really powerful tool in, in development. Um, and it also takes away a lot of the sort of the subjective feedback that you get and you're, you're working in just sort of this objective workflow all the time, uh, until you get to a point where you have a bike that you think is ridable and then obviously you tweak with rider feedback. But to answer your question, you have, um, it's complicated working with an overseas vendor or just you're working with the vendor at all. When you're not controlling the manufacturing, you're basically asking somebody else to take over what I would argue is the most complicated part of the process, which is actually getting that thing made. And, um, there's so many decisions that get made when you're manufacturing something and if you're not in control of every one of those decisions, you know, there can be some, some loss and fidelity of what your vision was and what that part initially [inaudible] your vision of that apart was initially, you know what I mean? Yes, absolutely. And so, and then the, the flip side of that, I still haven't answered your question is things take kind of a long time. So you would, uh, send off your drawings to a manufacturing facility. They would generally speaking, subcontract the tooling. So they would design the two only first of all. Then they would subcontract the tooling they get to, they would make parts, um, with, uh, you know, a combination of your suggestions for the layup and also their suggestions for our lab. And then eventual you'd end up with a part that gets tested, broken. Of course it fails because the first one always fails or, uh, or you're not trying hard enough. And uh, and then you enter this cycle of revision iteration. Um, and that cycle from when you've broken one, two, making the changes, um, to getting another one paid to getting it broken again and your tests last in dissecting is making revisions. It takes about 30 days to do that cycle when you're outsourcing a product. Um, so it's, it can be pretty long and you consider, you know, a bike that, I mean, going through six, seven revisions is not uncommon at all. And so you're talking about spending several months, uh, six, seven months just through the revision process after the tools aren't doing quizzes. Yeah, and I've got to imagine that there's some very specific demands when you're a manufacturer of that scale in terms of the timeline in which new products are released. Obviously the industry has its cycles where the dealers are expecting new models, et cetera. So I imagine that at a certain point you have to stop development of that cycle and say we need to mint the 2018 model. Even if we have ideas that we think are going to come to bear in 2019 absolutely. So like a, you know, whatever the model year is 2018 and you have to, if that product is getting close and you think you're going to make the timeline, you just have to cut it. You say, okay, we are done developing, this is as good as we're going to get it. And generally speaking you will never revisit that and change it to 2019 it'll just stay in that until that product is, is it's way out of it. The product line. Right? Yeah. I suppose that's all some of the compromise and when you're, when you're working within a large manufacturing supply chain that you have to make business decisions like that because it's product needs to ship at some point. It do it, it has to ship and it's never, it never done. You're never like satisfied at the end of the day. Okay I've done it, we're done. Yeah. Anybody who says no compromise is completely full of crap because engineering is all about compromises. That's how you, that's how you do it and you have, you have decisions to make all the time and you just hope that you're making the best decision at all times. Yeah, absolutely. I also imagine other offshoot to your experience there was having been exposed to a lot of different frame materials, cause I'm sure at the time specialized in must've been building in aluminum, steel and carbon. Yeah. Not as much steel. It was a little bit of steel but we didn't, I didn't, wasn't involved in relief and back it aluminum for sure. And carbon. Yes. The stuff that I was involved in was really predominantly carbon. And was there something, was there something about that material as an engineer that you were really drawn to and is it something that, oh yes. Is it the, is it the material you feel like is the highest performance material for bikes today? I think there's absolutely no doubt. It's like I said, nope, no material is without compromise. I think that anybody who argues that it's not the, the most high performance material is kidding themselves, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't other areas that have a place. So don't, yeah, I mean for sure it's titanium. In certain scenarios it has its place, but if you look at what you can do with fitness and weight and uh, performance and strength, if you take those things all together, you cannot meet the performance of carbon fiber. You just can't. Well, I'm excited to get into that and I interrupted your professional journey. Let's finish off how you ended up at allied and then let's definitely dig into carbon fiber and what our listeners can, can sort of take away as its attributes as a frame material. Sure. So, um, I was, I had been a specialized in last time. I have no bad things to say about my journey through that company. I had just after 11 years of being there, I had never had another job. I know that we've had a job. Um, and uh, although that's not totally true, I worked in by the bike shops he had and everything. But so my first professional, um, they use my obsession degree was that specialize. So after 11 years I was just sort of, you know, looking for something different and to be totally honest with you, the cycle that we described a kind of always having to go through an Asian vendor, it had on me a little bit. I was, um, you know, when you're, there's something really amazing making the thing that you design. I think that filling that circle is, is really critical. And it's not just because making things as smart and it's because when you, when you look at our country, if you sort of strip out all of the jobs that have to do with making things, then you leave, uh, an entire class of people who without really anything to do other than work in retail or food service or whatever. And you know what, not everybody's meant to go to college. And not everybody's meant to have a, uh, you know, big professional degree or everything, anything. And if we don't have some work for those people to do, then things get kind of dicey. And I think that's the position we find ourselves in today in the u s there's, there's just something very important about sort of maintaining that balance. Um, and, and I wanted to be part of kind of bringing those jobs, bringing some jobs, having some impacts and bringing jobs back to the United States. Um, so that, that'd be at allied led me to allied. So I was um, actually had, had left, um, got contacted by a gentleman by the name of Tony Kirkland's and uh, he, he's kind of spoke to me about what ally and was trying to do and it just felt like a really natural fit and we just incredible opportunity. For those of our listeners who haven't heard of allied before, can you give us a little summary of where the business is located and why it was founded? Sure. In actually has two spots. We have a headquarter in Bentonville, Arkansas and our bikes are made in Little Rock, Arkansas and a big, how far away are those locations from one another? It's a couple hundred miles. It's, it's a few hours drive. Um, so the company was founded for a couple reasons. One, I think we live in this time and you know, talking to the guy in the studio bell, that's how you the same thing. This is a very sort of strange time in the bike industry. You know, the, the rest of the consumer market has sort of shifted to online. There is um, you know, a couple of, a few large players in the retail space for bikes. Uh, but other than that, everybody else is just sort of been sort of squeezed out and uh, and the retail market other than just the best of the best cause essentially dried up and it's created kind of a funky sort of time in the bike industry, um, where people are sort of figuring out what is, how, how are we going to sell bikes to people in the, and to be effective, you can be to dealers. Is it going to be some sort of Omni Channel? I'm saying? And uh, and what we realized when starting this was that basically every company out there was, was set up in their, in their nature to be able to sell large volumes into warehouses. Um, and it's sort of creates that kind of tension, right? Because you have to sell preseason orders to dealers in order for that business to work. Yup. Um, and fundamentally we believe that that is not the right way to do business and not a healthy way to do business. And one of the main reasons why majority of dealers have really struggled because they leveraged themselves hard in the, in the winter to be able to do these preseason orders. And then if they have a bad year or there's tough weather or whatever, you know, you know, maybe the, the manufacturer or whiffed on a, on a model and it doesn't sell well, well there they're kind of stunk. And, uh, and because of that, a lot of those smaller dealers, they struggled and eventually went out of business. So the one thing is we really wanted to flip that. We didn't want to, um, sell inventory, big inventory into businesses. We wanted to make this more of just in time where it consumer or a dealer could just call us up, say, hey, we want, you know, this and this size and this color, and we'd be able to deliver that in, in short order. Um, and then the other part was, is we really wanted to do it here. We felt like, um, really the only way to do the, just in time manufacturing was to do with here in the states. Uh, and then we also felt like there was just enough, had enough had changed since bikes had left being made in the United States. Um, that it was possible for it to happen again in terms of being competitive and the cost of good sold. And how much, how much of the manufacturing and materials are you able to bring in house in Arkansas? So we do it all. So the material we buy from a prefigure in Irvine, but you know, we're taking prepregs sheets of carbon and making the frames and forks 100%. Wow, that's amazing. We'll have to get some pictures of your factory to share some. So, uh, she has some of the listeners in the show notes. Yeah, please do. We do. We put it out there. We're not hiding. Um, you know, it's part of, part of our mission is to just be super transparent how it works. We want to show you the people that are making your bike. We want to show you where it's made and want to show you the materials it's made with. Because I mean, we've got nothing to hide. We're doing this. We're trying to do the right thing every step of the way. Going back to our earlier conversation, it must open up is just incredible possibilities for you and your team as designers to sort of tweak the frames along the way and figure out what really is the best placement of the, of the carbon fiber and the thickness of the walls and all kinds of things. Yeah, I'm getting there with it being made, I mean you just see it opens and we have a for all types of stuff. I mean, without a doubt there's huge complications to doing it yourself. I mean like if you're standing at the top of the, you know, before we got on there that you, you get done manufacturing as well and manufacturing's hard. I mean there's a lot of complexity that goes into making something. Yeah. And I think, you know, the real world is the real world. And if you've ever built anything from Ikea at home, you know, you'll strip a nut, something will happen, something one aligned correctly and you just need to make adjustments. And, and whether you're putting a, a piece of art, like an allied frame out there and Ikea a couch, there was a journey in getting it to its final incarnation. And it's not always pretty. No, no, we can, we try to make it as pretty as possible. But yeah, it's hard. It's hard work. I mean it is, it's a lot of steps and, and making bikes is a hundred percent hand labor there. There's very, very little automation that goes into making a carbon fiber bike. And so every single piece of that thing is done by hand. And it takes, you know, in terms of labor hours, it takes 35, 40 hours to make a bike from beginning to end. It's a, it's an out of work. Um, but to get to your point, I mean, as an engineer, when you're, when you're sitting there with the operators and laying up parts together, I mean it's just the light bulb goes off on solutions for issues you're having or you know, you, you, you, you'll go through and you'll make a full part and you go and break it in the test lab and a and see where it breaks. And then inevitably you go back into the manufacturing process and you can pinpoint, you're like, oh, this is exactly why this is happening here. Because you know, the way these three forms are coming together or, or you know, I've got this one area that just doesn't have sufficient thickness or you know, I need more in zero degree. You reinforcements along this. I mean, it becomes really obvious when you're just seeing it get made. Um, and then instead of making another one the same way, you just say, okay, stop. We're going to do, you know, we're going to make these adjustments. You jot down there that he changed and then you make a new version going right back to the test lab. And, and that cycle, instead of taking the 30 days that it may have taken for an outside vendor, it takes us, you know, 24 hours to do a full turn on a, on revision. It's really quick. Yeah. And then I think to add on the feedback you can get from consumers, consumers can bring to light minor things that can be improved that you can then in turn bring into your production flow immediately if it's warranted. And I think that's, it is such a amazing thing about us manufacturing is that you can constantly be improving the product and have these really tight cycles with your customers so that you're getting real world feedback. Absolutely. And we have done that a number of times. You'll see like this is the thing, right? When you buy a bike from big brand, they've been producing that bike for already a long time before it gets launched and they have a bunch of a maid. I mean they've got, you know, thousands of those bikes already produced by the time you get to buy one. Right? So if something happens in those first three months where they're getting some rider feedback, well, too bad because they've already got a thousand made and they're not going to go make adjustments. Right? It's what's done is done. Um, but for us, if something comes up, you know, we're doing just in time inventory, we don't keep inventory of our frames and so, you know, we can make an adjustment super quick. I mean they can just be done in a day and then moving forward we just, you know, a rolling revision and, and um, it just goes right into right into production. Well, I can geek out all day long on us manufacturing as you know. But I'd love to transition a little bit into one of your models, specifically the all road and just hear from you in your words about what, who is that bike design for? What, what was the intention when you guys brought that that off road capable bike to market? Sure. Well, the funny is it's always, the answer is always, it's for me, and that's the best part about design and bikes is that you get to decide things that you want to go second, uh, rather than, um, you know, I think that there are, you know, the, the, the gravel market is getting disparate sized quite a bit, right? You, you've got all these sort of little segments that bike's fall into and it's fun, right? Because like, as a, as a consumer, it might be a little bit confusing, but if you dig in and you really understand the kind of riding it you want to do, you're going to be able to find a great bike to suit your needs. And that's really fun. So, um, for, for me personally, the type of riding that I love to do is I first of all, don't like to drive to ride. So when I'm keeping my house going to go for a ride and then I want to find, you know, smooth single track and fire roads to be able to link together, you know, anywhere from 60, 40 dirt to road to, you know, just the all road is, is not best for bike, you know, going 100% to her super rocky nasty stuff. But if you can link together, you know, 50, 50 dirt road or even up to 80% direct to road, um, it's perfect for that. But you know, the thing I always like to say is like, you're, you're on the dirt road or you're on a road, I'm sorry. And you've always seemed like that little spur, a single track that goes off and you don't know what it does. A bike like the just gives the ability to just give it a shot, you know, see if you're able to do it. Um, and it just opens up that, that sort of freedom that you would not necessarily get on a road bike, that freedom of exploration. So how does it differ from the Alpha Circle House actually in geometry? It's in fit. It's extremely close. So it, and that's the thing I really like about it is um, more of a rowdy and so when I moved from a road bike to like a traditional gravel bikes, sometimes I find the geometry, the geometry takes me some time to kind of get used to right when I go back and forth between a road bike and the old road, it just, they feel so similar. You know, on the road it feels, it just feels like a road bike. Uh, so the change stays are longer by 20 mil. The front end is taller by, I think it's three or four millimeters. It's very close and uh, and that's all obviously to fit the, the larger volume tire and that the head tube size gives it a little bit slightly more relaxed fit. Then the road bike, it's a teeny, teeny amount, but it's almost imperceptible. Yeah. I mean you could set up, you could set it up essentially. Exactly. If you would set up your road race bike and I imagine those longer stays on the road translate to pretty darn stable descending bike. Absolutely. Yeah. It's a great, it's actually a great road bike. It's, so I'm this, I'm this podcast, we talk a lot about sort of tire width and the pros and cons so that the all road kind of tops out. Was it around 35 millimeter tires? Yes. Dirty 35. I mean there are, so like the tire don't even get me started at a tire, that thing because it's just so the, as a bike designer and the tire was thing just drives you crazy because what it says on your sidewall is not necessarily what you're getting. And it's a lot of times it's a lot bigger than what you think. Right? Um, especially with all the, the, the of, with standards and everything. I mean you're 35 could very easily be a 38. Uh, so we say 35 when the sidewall to be safe. Um, you know, measured if you could fit bigger than that, but, right. Yeah. It's interesting. We were, we were jokingly talking about before, you know, this would be a road plus bike as opposed to a mountain bike bike. Correct. And that's one of the interesting things. We're always trying to tease out when we're talking to different manufacturers and, and athletes about the gravel market is just an understanding of what these bikes are good for and what they're not good for. I mean, the bottom line is this, you mentioned early on road bikes, pure road bikes are capable of going off road, particularly when you add tubeless tires into the equation. So it starts to come down to what type of writing is in your backyard. Are you hitting the dirt immediately from Your House or are you riding 20 miles riding an hour to get to the trails and just touching on them at the end or the middle of the ride? Yeah, to me it's more about, to me it's more about the rocks. I mean, if you have, if you have like, you know, dirt roads and stuff, I mean 32 is tons of tire for that. I mean, we just really don't need any more than that in almost all second cross bites. I think that UCI limited sacker cross bike is what, 35 mils or 33 meals or something. That sounds about right. It's, um, it's not a big tire, you know, and those guys are doing all types of stuff with those bikes. I have found that, I think the tire volume thing is so the gravel market is still fairly nascent. People are all excited to have like real big tires and you know, now you're seeing 50 mil tires on gravel bikes, which is essentially we're talking about not by tires now really. Um, but I think it's going to come back and down. I do think that is 40 mil is a lot of tire. I mean I've been playing around with them, you know, different bikes with different tire volumes just to try to get a feel for it ourselves. And uh, I, I do think that the tire Paulien thing is, has gotten a little out of hand for people just wanting more and more. And I do think it's going to draw back to, you know, sort of 38 as being kind of like the, the sort of magic for all things gravel. Yeah, I think it depends. I mean there's clearly from talking to people, it feels like the majority of people who are getting drawn into dry gravel or coming from the road side. But at the same token when you are coming from a mountain bike experience, I think there's some value in the wider tire because it may match with your cycling lifestyle off road. So if you're coming from the the bike packing set or you know, the ultra distance riding off road riding set, you know there still may be a home. And I think it's interesting and it's certainly worth debating where that line is drawn and it's going to vary based on where you live and who you are and what's your intention is. Absolutely. Absolutely. In my intent, generally speaking is I'm trying, in the bikes that we make, generally speaking, we're making more like a performance oriented bikes. So this is for Nolan fast. Um, and for, I'm not going to say racing or anything, but it's definitely, you know, we're, we're trying to make bikes to go to go fast without a doubt. And that's one of the many things I appreciate about what you guys are doing because you are very clear in your marketing with the intention of the bike. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I think bike packing is awesome. I think it's Super Fun. I would not take an old road bike. I don't know that it's the right bike. Wouldn't maybe not be the most comfortable thing in the world out there. It would not be the greatest it without the grades. So you mentioned sort of thinking that the world of gravel cycling may end up around a 38 see tire and I have to ask, since that's wider than the all road, do you have a vision for a bike or the future for allied that's going to be in that category that could accept the 38? Uh, well, Geez, that's a great question. Um, I mean we're always sort of working on new stuff. This is the lamest name. Yeah, a I, I mean the answer is for sure. Yes. I mean we're looking, we're looking down that path and, and a bike. It's a little bit more capable than the already. I think the old road is awesome. It's to me the perfect bike for most people. I think that there is sort of a level of, of off road. Yeah. The tire is not going to get you quite what you need, but for that, for most people out there, and I, and I know that they do a similar type of writing that I do, which is, you know, you're just sort of connecting with trails and dirt paths from home. Uh, it's, it's just such a great bike for that. And I do think that the all road is really a quiver killer because it is a great road bike. I mean it really sacrifices very little. Um, but you know, given that 35 mil tire volume, it's just amazing what you can get away with, especially if you have it set up to bliss. Yeah. So that's going to say, it feels like, it feels like the all road is, is likely to cannibalize your Alpha customers more so than it would any bigger, you know, bigger tire capable bike that you come up with in the future. Okay. For sure it does. I mean, if there's just no doubt that it does, we fell majority all roads people, it's just for one it's, it's, it's the higher growth segment in the industry right now. But the other thing is you should just, it just strikes a nerve with people. You know, most people you could race in all red and there's people that do on the road. I mean, they raised him, Israel fights, um, and, but most people don't and they loved the idea of having that to be able to have a second set of wheels or just be able to swap tires and be able to go do this and some different stuff. Yeah, a lot. I think that that's the great appeal for that bike. Absolutely. And a lot of it, as you sort of alluded to, it's, it's sort of your timing in the market. You've been around a number of years, people have been dreaming about getting one of these bikes. The category they're looking to get into typically a is this all road kind of category to give them just a little bit more versatility for what was formerly there road bike. So it makes a ton of sense that the all road, yeah. A lot of people run in 30 30 twos on the road slips, you know? Yes. Yeah. I buy that. The more I ride higher volume tires, the more I want them on my road wheel set. Yes, for sure. Cool. Well, I appreciate it, Sam, you're giving us an overview of of what you guys are doing over there at allied and the all roads specifically. It was really interesting and I'll put links to your website and different social media platforms and the show notes. Everybody can check it out and see if the all roads a fit for them. That's great. Appreciate it. Yeah, it's been fun chatting. Right on. Thanks Sam.

Show #398.   Can You Help Me Fight The Fossils? Read More About Patreon here EVne.ws/patreon   Read today’s show notes on https://www.evnewsdaily.com   Good morning, good afternoon and good evening wherever you are in the world, welcome to EV News Daily for Monday 25th February 2019. It’s Martyn Lee here and I’ve been through every EV story I could find today, and picked out the best ones to save you time.   Thank you to MYEV.com for helping make this show, they’ve built the first marketplace specifically for Electric Vehicles. It’s a totally free marketplace that simplifies the buying and selling process, and help you learn about EVs along the way too.   Welcome to three new Patreon supporters. Hello to new PRODUCERS PIERRE MARASTI and PAUL COSMAN. And new EXECUTIVE PRODUCER JAMES STORR.   ELECTRIC PEUGEOT e208 IN DETAIL: SPECS, IMAGES, VIDEOS "Peugeot released specs for the e-208, the first all-electric model for the brand, build on the eCMP platform. The public unveiling is scheduled for Geneva, but already today you can enjoy a gallery of stock images." reports Mark Kane for InsideEVs.com: "The 50 kWh battery provides 340 km (211 miles) of range under the WLTP test cycle and is covered by warranty for 8 years or 160 000 km for 70% of capacity. The electric motor is rated at 100 kW, which enables it to do 0-100 km/h (62 mph) in 8.1 seconds. The brisk acceleration will be especially welcome in city driving at low speeds. 0-50 km/h takes just 2.8 seconds. There is also a handy three-phase on-board charger rated for 11 kW. The French manufacturer didn’t forget to add a heat pump to save as much range as possible in winter. Orders will be accepted from late summer 2019, while the launch is expected in the fall of 2019.   The tag line is "Unboring the future".   https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=74&v=2LhRl8wcBVE   https://insideevs.com/electric-peugeot-e208-detail-specs-images-videos/   ZERO SR/F ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLE UNVEILED "For the past month or so, Zero has been teasing a new addition to its lineup with only a few peeks at the silhouette and limited performance information to work with—teasing well done. The company has finally unveiled the new SR/F and we now know what Zero has been working on: the view from here is pretty nice!" says Sabrina for RideApart.com: "The new SR/F is using the same 14.4 kWh battery used in the high-end S and SR. What has changed is the electric motor—instead of the usual 7-centimeter rotor found in the current Zeros, the F receives a 10-centimeter unit, which results in a performance boost. In fact, both versions of the F (Standard and Premium) are rated at 110 horsepower and a top speed of 124 mph. the standard SR/F is expected to offer a combined range rated between 102 and 123 miles (depending on highway speed). Charging time is expected to hover between 4.5 hours for the entry-level model with 3 kW charger and 1.5 hour with the 6 kW fast charger. Pricing has been set at $18,995 for the Standard version. The Premium trim adds a screen, fast-charger, heated grips, and aluminum bar ends for an extra $2,000. This positions the new SR/F at the top of the line, over $2k above the SR."   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25IkSwclpGA   https://www.rideapart.com/articles/306810/zero-unveils-srf-sport-model/   BYD BREAKS GROUND ON NEW 20 GWH BATTERY PLANT IN CHINA InsideEVs reports: "BYD has broke ground on its new lithium-ion battery factory in Chongqing, one of China‘s traditional auto manufacturing hubs. The planned output is to be 20 GWh annually using eight fully-automated production lines. The first stage of the plant is expected to be completed within a year from now. In 2018 BYD sold about 227,152 plug-in electric cars, and 247,811 including buses/trucks, which means that the company will gain the potential to significantly increase production. And if you consider that in China, sales of plug-in electric cars are booming, then it seems certain BYD will need this extra capacity in the very near future." And Mark Kane has done some handy math: The 20 GWh of batteries is equivalent to:   200,000 all-electric cars with 100 kWh packs 400,000 all-electric cars with 50 kWh packs 800,000 plug-in hybrids cars with 25 kWh packs   https://insideevs.com/byd-new-20-gwh-battery-plant-china/   THE PORSCHE MACAN IS GOING ELECTRIC "The Porsche Macan is Porsche’s best-selling vehicle, powered by an internal-combustion engine, a crossover that handles better than it has any right to. It will also be going electric soon, the Financial Times reports." reports Erik at Jalopnik: "The Porsche decision, which will be revealed next Tuesday by the group, shows the carmaker is serious about selling electric vehicles to a mass market. The all-electric Macan, a sport utility vehicle, will be produced in Leipzig early next decade, the company confirmed to the Financial Times. Chief executive Oliver Blume said Porsche was aiming for every second car it sold to be “electrified” — pure-electric or hybrid — by 2025, meaning that Porsche’s electric ramp-up is even more ambitious than its parent, the Volkswagen Group."   https://jalopnik.com/the-porsche-macan-is-going-electric-1832867432   AUDI LAUNCHES PLUG-IN HYBRID Q5, A6, A7 AND A8 "Audi has revealed new plug-in versions of its Q5, A6, A7 and A8, each combining a turbocharged petrol engine with an electric motor and lithium-ion battery pack. At the same time the marque has chosen to drop the ‘e-tron’ branding from the sole plug-in model it previously sold, and from now on will only apply that badge to its full electric models." reports EVO: "The 50 and 55 variants all share a 14.1kWh battery pack, with estimated electric-only ranges set at around 25 miles on the WLTP cycle. Final UK specifications, pricing and availability have not yet been confirmed, but we suspect they’ll fall in line with Audi’s other numerically ordered models."   https://www.evo.co.uk/news/22328/audi-launches-plug-in-hybrid-q5-a6-a7-and-a8   NEW VERSION OF MORE POWERFUL AUDI E-TRON SPIED: E-TRON ALLROAD? Is there an AllRoad version of the etron currently being tested? New spy photos suggest so. "The rumors suggest that the sportier version will get a three electric motor set up, with two motors on the rear axle. The e-tron currently develops 402bhp front and rear motor together and if you double the rear motors, we would come up to 640bhp in total. Maybe Audi decides not to give the e-tron all that power but a figure around 500-550bhp is clearly possible." says InsideEVs   https://insideevs.com/new-version-audi-e-tron-spied-allroad/   NISSAN LEAF PLUS FIRST DRIVE REVIEW: MORE OF A GOOD THING Jamie at Electrek says: "Last week we were invited to San Diego to drive the new Nissan Leaf Plus, the updated version of the Leaf with a new 62kWh battery pack, which will start sales in March. We spent the day driving it all through the county on a variety of roads, and came away impressed if not surprised by this iteration on an already-solid package. The main practical upshot of the Leaf Plus’s larger battery is that the car has increased range, power and quick charge ability." What about price? "Chevy has reached the 200,000 vehicle mark in the US, and this will effectively raise the price of that car by $3,750 starting in April. This gives Nissan a little breathing room with the Leaf Plus, and if they end up with a price which is a little higher than the Bolt, the effective price for consumers will still be lower.  Nissan has sold around 130,000 electric cars in the US, so they still have time before their credit runs out."   https://electrek.co/2019/02/25/nissan-leaf-plus-62kwh-2/   COMMUNITY And thanks to MYEV.com they’ve set us another Question Of The Week. Keep your comments coming in on email and YouTube…   Where did you, or will you, buy an EV from? Let’s make of list of the best places, markets, dealers or companies who are making EV buying a pleasure!     I want to say a heartfelt thank you to the 196 patrons of this podcast whose generosity means I get to keep making this show, which aims to entertain and inform thousands of listeners every day about a brighter future. 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Mit dem Rennrad durchs Gelände: Der Herbst ist die klassische Cyclocross-Zeit. Doch plötzlich gibt’s auch Allroad- und Gravel Bikes. Wer soll was kaufen? >> Artikel zum Nachlesen: https://detektor.fm/wissen/antritt-klingeln-bei-kloetzer-cyclocross-oder-gravel

畅妹：您好，在沃尔沃V90和奥迪A6 allroad之间，您能给我一个推荐吗？万谢！ 褚文帅：翼虎2.0T的动力、操控怎么样？小毛病多吗？ 奥辉：老师！请评价一下林肯MKX吧！ 就是你：宝马3系GT怎么样?性价比高吗？ 赵暖阳:老师您好!上次听您推荐的轩逸，我买了开着真不错，谢谢老师的推荐！不过最近家里又要添一辆车，看上了广汽传祺GA8，请老师评价一下！再次感谢老师！

山东交通广播《购车联盟》本期内容涉及：帮听众在线砍价；挑车买车解答，车型涉及—大迈X5、冠道、途昂、别克GL8、大众蔚揽、沃尔沃V40CC、奥迪A4L ALLROAD、10万SUV、吉利远景X3。。。等等。

山东交通广播《购车联盟》本期内容涉及：帮听众在线砍价；挑车买车解答，车型涉及—大迈X5、冠道、途昂、别克GL8、大众蔚揽、沃尔沃V40CC、奥迪A4L ALLROAD、10万SUV、吉利远景X3。。。等等。

山东交通广播《购车联盟》本期内容涉及：帮听众在线砍价；挑车买车解答，车型涉及—大迈X5、冠道、途昂、别克GL8、大众蔚揽、沃尔沃V40CC、奥迪A4L ALLROAD、10万SUV、吉利远景X3。。。等等。

全新奥迪A4 allroad不仅是一辆车，更是一种生活方式。它有着旅行车一样的高逼格外观，也有着媲美城市SUV的通过能力。从某种角度来看，allroad似乎是很完美的，无奈造天朝的售价也是望洋兴叹。好了，不说废话了，直接来听新车的试驾报告吧~我们的微信公共平台“tangxiaoradio”或“汤小radio”，微博是“汤小radio”。Q群：435824530

全新奥迪A4 allroad不仅是一辆车，更是一种生活方式。它有着旅行车一样的高逼格外观，也有着媲美城市SUV的通过能力。从某种角度来看，allroad似乎是很完美的，无奈造天朝的售价也是望洋兴叹。好了，不说废话了，直接来听新车的试驾报告吧~我们的微信公共平台“tangxiaoradio”或“汤小radio”，微博是“汤小radio”。Q群：435824530

全新奥迪A4 allroad不仅是一辆车，更是一种生活方式。它有着旅行车一样的高逼格外观，也有着媲美城市SUV的通过能力。从某种角度来看，allroad似乎是很完美的，无奈造天朝的售价也是望洋兴叹。好了，不说废话了，直接来听新车的试驾报告吧~我们的微信公共平台“tangxiaoradio”或“汤小radio”，微博是“汤小radio”。Q群：435824530

Episode 68-Yeah, this is a good one. You guys, we don't want to toot our own horn or anything, but the pithy one-liners out of the blanket fort are pretty spectacular this week. The highlight is Dave's distillation of a Toyota hybrid badge on a Honda Fit (it's just too brilliant for the iTunes profanity filter). But there are other gems like "Michiganders have 700 words for 'pothole,'" "It made the worst thunk," and something about an "Allroad milk silence." We also discuss how Dave ruins things with his pretty mouth, extend an olive branch to the people who don't want to be listening to us, and mention Harambe for some reason. Did we mention we recorded this very late at night? TeamClearCoat Drivetribe TeamClearCoat YouTube Channel TeamClearCoat website TeamClearCoat Instagram TeamClearCoat Twitter TeamClearCoat Facebook TeamClearCoat Video Game Recommendations on Steam

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