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Show notes provided by Joe Peluso We wouldn't be here, on this podcast, if we weren't fans. We are dedicated enthusiasts of comics, Sci-fi, TV, movies, games, music, and of course, sports. No one in our circle denies the reality of our passion, but can anyone in our sphere call themselves a super-fan? Ponder that question as you are about to spend an hour with writer, producer, publisher, and marketing genius Dan Madsen. The progenitor of both Star Trek and Star Wars fandoms joins your hosts James, Josh, and Joe to offer up a master class in fandom history. Make sure those "inertial dampeners" are online before you make the "jump to light speed" because you are about to go where no fan has gone before!
This week we talk about the intersections of large language models, the golden age of television and its storytelling mishaps, making one's way through the weirding of the labor economy, and much more with two of my favorite Gen X science fiction aficionados, OG podcaster KMO and our mutual friend Kevin Arthur Wohlmut. In this episode — a standalone continuation to my recent appearance on The KMO Show, we skip like a stone across mentions of every Star Trek series, the collapse of narratives and the social fabric, Westworld HBO, Star Wars Mandalorian vs. Andor vs. Rebels, chatGPT, Blade Runner 2049, Black Mirror, H.P. Lovecraft, the Sheldrake-Abraham-McKenna Trialogues, Charles Stross' Accelerando, Adventure Time, Stanislav Grof's LSD psychotherapy, Francisco Varela, Blake Lemoine's meltdown over Google LaMDA, Integrated Information Theory, biosemiotics, Douglas Hofstadter, Max Tegmarck, Erik Davis, Peter Watts, The Psychedelic Salon, Melanie Mitchell, The Teafaerie, Kevin Kelly, consilience in science, Fight Club, and more…Or, if you prefer, here's a rundown of the episode generated by A.I. c/o my friends at Podium.page:In this episode, I explore an ambitious and well-connected conversation with guests KMO, a seasoned podcaster, and Kevin Walnut [sic], a close friend and supporter of the arts in Santa Fe. We dive deep into their thoughts on the social epistemology crisis, science fiction, deep fakes, and ontology. Additionally, we discuss their opinions on the Star Trek franchise, particularly their critiques of the first two seasons of Star Trek: Picard and Discovery. Through this engaging conversation, we examine the impact of storytelling and the evolution of science fiction in modern culture. We also explore the relationship between identity, media, and artificial intelligence, as well as the ethical implications of creating sentient artificial general intelligence (AGI) and the philosophical questions surrounding AI's impact on society and human existence. Join us for a thought-provoking and in-depth discussion on a variety of topics that will leave you questioning the future of humanity and our relationship with technology.✨ Before we get started, three big announcements!* I am leaving the Santa Fe Institute, in part to write a very ambitious book about technology, art, imagination, and Jurassic Park. You can be a part of the early discussion around this project by joining the Future Fossils Book Club's Jurassic Park live calls — the first of which will be on Saturday, 29 April — open to Substack and Patreon supporters:* Catch me in a Twitter Space with Nxt Museum on Monday 17 April at 11 am PST on a panel discussing “Creative Misuse of Technology” with Minne Atairu, Parag Mital, Caroline Sinders, and hosts Jesse Damiani and Charlotte Kent.* I'm back in Austin this October to play the Astronox Festival at Apache Pass! Check out this amazing lineup on which I appear alongside Juno Reactor, Entheogenic, Goopsteppa, DRRTYWULVZ, and many more great artists!✨ Support Future Fossils:Subscribe anywhere you go for podcastsSubscribe to the podcast PLUS essays, music, and news on Substack or Patreon.Buy my original paintings or commission new work.Buy my music on Bandcamp! (This episode features “A Better Trip” from my recent live album by the same name.)Or if you're into lo-fi audio, follow me and my listening recommendations on Spotify.This conversation continues with lively and respectful interaction every single day in the members-only Future Fossils Facebook Group and Discord server. Join us!Episode cover art by KMO and a whole bouquet of digital image manipulation apps.✨ Tip Jars:@futurefossils on Venmo$manfredmacx on CashAppmichaelgarfield on PayPal✨ Affiliate Links:• These show notes and the transcript were made possible with Podium.Page, a very cool new AI service I'm happy to endorse. Sign up here and get three free hours and 50% off your first month.• BioTech Life Sciences makes anti-aging and performance enhancement formulas that work directly at the level of cellular nutrition, both for ingestion and direct topical application. 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You can hear it playing all the synths on my song about Jurassic Park.✨ Mentioned Media:KMO Show S01 E01 - 001 - Michael Garfield and Kevin WohlmutAn Edifying Thought on AI by Charles EisensteinIn Defense of Star Trek: Picard & Discovery by Michael GarfieldImprovising Out of Algorithmic Isolation by Michael GarfieldAI and the Transformation of the Human Spirit by Steven Hales(and yes I know it's on Quillette, and no I don't think this automatically disqualifies it)Future Fossils Book Club #1: Blindsight by Peter WattsFF 116 - The Next Ten Billion Years: Ugo Bardi & John Michael Greer as read by Kevin Arthur Wohlmut✨ Related Recent Future Fossils Episodes:FF 198 - Tadaaki Hozumi on Japanese Esotericism, Aliens, Land Spirits, & The Singularity (Part 2)FF 195 - A.I. Art: An Emergency Panel with Julian Picaza, Evo Heyning, Micah Daigle, Jamie Curcio, & Topher SipesFF 187 - Fear & Loathing on the Electronic Frontier with Kevin Welch & David Hensley of EFF-Austin FF 178 - Chris Ryan on Exhuming The Human from Our Eldritch Institutions FF 175 - C. Thi Nguyen on The Seductions of Clarity, Weaponized Games, and Agency as Art ✨ Chapters:0:15:45 - The Substance of Philosophy (58 Seconds)0:24:45 - Complicated TV Narratives and the Internet (104 Seconds)0:30:54 - Humans vs Hosts in Westworld (81 Seconds)0:38:09 - Philosophical Zombies and Artificial Intelligence (89 Seconds)0:43:00 - Popular Franchises Themes (71 Seconds)1:03:27 - Reflections on a Changing Media Landscape (89 Seconds)1:10:45 - The Pathology of Selective Evidence (92 Seconds)1:16:32 - Externalizing Trauma Through Technology (131 Seconds)1:24:51 - From Snow Maker to Thouandsaire (43 Seconds)1:36:48 - The Impact of Boomer Parenting (126 Seconds)✨ Keywords:Social Epistemology, Science Fiction, Deep Fakes, Ontology, Star Trek, Artificial Intelligence, AI Impact, Sentient AGI, Human-Machine Interconnectivity, Consciousness Theory, Westworld, Blade Runner 2049, AI in Economy, AI Companion Chatbots, Unconventional Career Path, AI and Education, AI Content Creation, AI in Media, Turing Test✨ UNEDITED machine-generated transcript generated by podium.page:0:00:00Five four three two one. Go. So it's not like Wayne's world where you say the two and the one silently. Now, Greetings future fossils.0:00:11Welcome to episode two hundred and one of the podcast that explores our place in time I'm your host, Michael Garfield. And this is one of these extra juicy and delicious episodes of the show where I really ratcheted up with our guests and provide you one of these singularity is near kind of ever everything is connected to everything, self organized criticality right at the edge of chaos conversations, deeply embedded in chapel parallel where suddenly the invisible architect picture of our cosmos starts to make itself apparent through the glass bead game of conversation. And I am that I get to share it with you. Our guests this week are KMO, one of the most seasoned and well researched and experienced podcasters that I know. Somebody whose show the Sea Realm was running all the way back in two thousand six, I found him through Eric Davis, who I think most of you know, and I've had on the show a number of times already. And also Kevin Walnut, who is a close friend of mine here in Santa Fe, a just incredible human being, he's probably the strongest single supporter of music that I'm aware of, you know, as far as local scenes are concerned and and supporting people's music online and helping get the word out. He's been instrumental to my family and I am getting ourselves situated here all the way back to when I visited Santa Fe in two thousand eighteen to participate in the Santa Fe Institute's Interplanetary Festival and recorded conversations on that trip John David Ebert and Michael Aaron Cummins. And Ike used so June. About hyper modernity, a two part episode one zero four and one zero five. I highly recommend going back to that, which is really the last time possibly I had a conversation just this incredibly ambitious on the show.0:02:31But first, I want to announce a couple things. One is that I have left the Santa Fe Institute. The other podcast that I have been hosting for them for the last three and a half years, Complexity Podcast, which is substantially more popular in future fossils due to its institutional affiliation is coming to a close, I'm recording one more episode with SFI president David Krakauer next week in which I'm gonna be talking about my upcoming book project. And that episode actually is conjoined with the big announcement that I have for members of the Future Fossil's listening audience and and paid supporters, which is, of course, the Jurassic Park Book Club that starts On April twenty ninth, we're gonna host the first of two video calls where I'm gonna dive deep into the science and philosophy Michael Creighton's most popular work of fiction and its impact on culture and society over the thirty three years since its publication. And then I'm gonna start picking up as many of the podcasts that I had scheduled for complexity and had to cancel upon my departure from SFI. And basically fuse the two shows.0:03:47And I think a lot of you saw this coming. Future fossils is going to level up and become a much more scientific podcast. As I prepare and research the book that I'm writing about Jurassic Park and its legacy and the relationship It has to ILM and SFI and the Institute of Eco Technics. And all of these other visionary projects that sprouted in the eighties and nineties to transition from the analog to the digital the collapse of the boundaries between the real and the virtual, the human and the non human worlds, it's gonna be a very very ambitious book and a very very ambitious book club. And I hope that you will get in there because obviously now I am out in the rain as an independent producer and very much need can benefit from and am deeply grateful for your support for this work in order to make things happen and in order to keep my family fed, get the lights on here with future fossils. So with that, I wanna thank all of the new supporters of the show that have crawled out of the woodwork over the last few weeks, including Raefsler Oingo, Brian in the archaeologist, Philip Rice, Gerald Bilak, Jamie Curcio, Jeff Hanson who bought my music, Kuaime, Mary Castello, VR squared, Nastia teaches, community health com, Ed Mulder, Cody Couiac, bought my music, Simon Heiduke, amazing visionary artist. I recommend you check out, Kayla Peters. Yeah. All of you, I just wow. Thank you so much. It's gonna be a complete melee in this book club. I'm super excited to meet you all. I will send out details about the call details for the twenty ninth sometime in the next few days via a sub tag in Patreon.0:06:09The amount of support that I've received through this transition has been incredible and it's empowering me to do wonderful things for you such as the recently released secret videos of the life sets I performed with comedian Shane Moss supporting him, opening for him here in Santa Fe. His two sold out shows at the Jean Coutu cinema where did the cyber guitar performances. And if you're a subscriber, you can watch me goofing off with my pedal board. There's a ton of material. I'm gonna continue to do that. I've got a lot of really exciting concerts coming up in the next few months that we're gonna get large group and also solo performance recordings from and I'm gonna make those available in a much more resplendent way to supporters as well as the soundtrack to Mark Nelson of the Institute of Eco Technics, his UC San Diego, Art Museum, exhibit retrospective looking at BioSphere two. I'm doing music for that and that's dropping. The the opening of that event is April twenty seventh. There's gonna be a live zoom event for that and then I'm gonna push the music out as well for that.0:07:45So, yeah, thank you all. I really, really appreciate you listening to the show. I am excited to share this episode with you. KMO is just a trove. Of insight and experience. I mean, he's like a perfect entry into the digital history museum that this show was predicated upon. So with that and also, of course, Kevin Willett is just magnificent. And for the record, stick around at the end of the conversation. We have some additional pieces about AI, and I think you're gonna really enjoy it. And yeah, thank you. Here we go. Alright. Cool.0:09:26Well, we just had a lovely hour of discussion for the new KMO podcast. And now I'm here with KMO who is The most inveterate podcaster I know. And I know a lot of them. Early adopts. And I think that weird means what you think it means. Inventor it. Okay. Yes. Hey, answer to both. Go ahead. I mean, you're not yet legless and panhandling. So prefer to think of it in term in terms of August estimation. Yeah. And am I allowed to say Kevin Walnut because I've had you as a host on True. Yeah. My last name was appeared on your show. It hasn't appeared on camos yet, but I don't really care. Okay. Great. Yeah. Karen Arthur Womlett, who is one of the most solid and upstanding and widely read and just generous people, I think I know here in Santa Fe or maybe anywhere. With excellent taste and podcasts. Yes. And who is delicious meat I am sampling right now as probably the first episode of future fossils where I've had an alcoholic beverage in my hand. Well, I mean, it's I haven't deprived myself. Of fun. And I think if you're still listening to the show after all these years, you probably inferred that. But at any rate, Welcome on board. Thank you. Thanks. Pleasure to be here.0:10:49So before we started rolling, I guess, so the whole conversation that we just had for your show camera was very much about my thoughts on the social epistemology crisis and on science fiction and deep fakes and all of these kinds of weird ontology and these kinds of things. But in between calls, we were just talking about how much you detest the first two seasons of Star Trek card and of Discovery. And as somebody, I didn't bother with doing this. I didn't send you this before we spoke, but I actually did write an SIN defense of those shows. No one. Yeah. So I am not attached to my opinion on this, but And I actually do wanna at some point double back and hear storytelling because when he had lunch and he had a bunch of personal life stuff that was really interesting. And juicy and I think worthy of discussion. But simply because it's hot on the rail right now, I wanna hear you talk about Star Trek. And both of you, actually, I know are very big fans of this franchise. I think fans are often the ones from whom a critic is most important and deserved. And so I welcome your unhinged rants. Alright. Well, first, I'll start off by quoting Kevin's brother, the linguist, who says, That which brings us closer to Star Trek is progress. But I'd have to say that which brings us closer to Gene Rottenberry and Rick Berman era Star Trek. Is progress. That which brings us closer to Kurtzmann. What's his first name? Alex. Alex Kurtzmann, Star Trek. Well, that's not even the future. I mean, that's just that's our drama right now with inconsistent Star Trek drag draped over it.0:12:35I liked the first JJ Abrams' Star Trek. I think it was two thousand nine with Chris Pine and Zachary Qinto and Karl Urban and Joey Saldana. I liked the casting. I liked the energy. It was fun. I can still put that movie on and enjoy it. But each one after that just seem to double down on the dumb and just hold that arm's length any of the philosophical stuff that was just amazing from Star Trek: The Next Generation or any of the long term character building, which was like from Deep Space nine.0:13:09And before seven of nine showed up on on Voyager, you really had to be a dedicated Star Trek fan to put up with early season's Voyager, but I did because I am. But then once she came on board and it was hilarious. They brought her onboard. I remember seeing Jerry Ryan in her cat suit on the cover of a magazine and just roll in my eyes and think, oh my gosh, this show is in such deep trouble through sinking to this level to try to save it. But she was brilliant. She was brilliant in that show and she and Robert Percardo as the doctor. I mean, it basically became the seven of nine and the doctor show co starring the rest of the cast of Voyager. And it was so great.0:13:46I love to hear them singing together and just all the dynamics of I'm human, but I was I basically came up in a cybernetic collective and that's much more comfortable to me. And I don't really have the option of going back it. So I gotta make the best of where I am, but I feel really superior to all of you. Is such it was such a charming dynamic. I absolutely loved it. Yes. And then I think a show that is hated even by Star Trek fans Enterprise. Loved Enterprise.0:14:15And, yes, the first three seasons out of four were pretty rough. Actually, the first two were pretty rough. The third season was that Zendy Ark in the the expanse. That was pretty good. And then season four was just astounding. It's like they really found their voice and then what's his name at CBS Paramount.0:14:32He's gone now. He got me too. What's his name? Les Moonves? Said, no. I don't like Star Trek. He couldn't he didn't know the difference between Star Wars and Star Trek. That was his level of engagement.0:14:44And he's I really like J.0:14:46J.0:14:46Abrams. What's that? You mean J. J. Abrams. Yeah. I think J. J. Is I like some of J. Abrams early films. I really like super eight. He's clearly his early films were clearly an homage to, like, eighties, Spielberg stuff, and Spielberg gets the emotional beats right, and JJ Abrams was mimicking that, and his early stuff really works. It's just when he starts adapting properties that I really love. And he's coming at it from a marketing standpoint first and a, hey, we're just gonna do the lost mystery box thing. We're gonna set up a bunch questions to which we don't know the answers, and it'll be up to somebody else to figure it out, somebody down the line. I as I told you, between our conversations before we were recording. I really enjoy or maybe I said it early in this one. I really like that first J. J. Abrams, Star Trek: Foam, and then everyone thereafter, including the one that Simon Pegg really had a hand in because he's clear fan. Yeah. Yeah. But they brought in director from one of the fast and the furious films and they tried to make it an action film on.0:15:45This is not Star Trek, dude. This is not why we like Star Trek. It's not for the flash, particularly -- Oh my god. -- again, in the first one, it was a stylistic choice. I'd like it, then after that is that's the substance of this, isn't it? It's the lens flares. I mean, that that's your attempt at philosophy. It's this the lens flares. That's your attempt at a moral dilemma. I don't know.0:16:07I kinda hate to start off on this because this is something about which I feel like intense emotion and it's negative. And I don't want that to be my first impression. I'm really negative about something. Well, one of the things about this show is that I always joke that maybe I shouldn't edit it because The thing that's most interesting to archaeologists is often the trash mitt and here I am tidying this thing up to be presentable to future historians or whatever like it I can sync to that for sure. Yeah. I'm sorry. The fact of it is you're not gonna know everything and we want it that way. No. It's okay. We'll get around to the stuff that I like. But yeah. So anyway yeah.0:16:44So I could just preassociate on Stretrick for a while, so maybe a focusing question. Well, but first, you said there's a you had more to say, but you were I this this tasteful perspective. This is awesome. Well, I do have a focus on question for you. So let me just have you ask it because for me to get into I basically I'm alienated right now from somebody that I've been really good friends with since high school.0:17:08Because over the last decade, culturally, we have bifurcated into the hard right, hard left. And I've tried not to go either way, but the hard left irritates me more than the hard right right now. And he is unquestionably on the hard left side. And I know for people who are dedicated Marxist, or really grounded in, like, materialism and the material well-being of workers that the current SJW fanaticism isn't leftist. It's just crazed. We try to put everything, smash everything down onto this left right spectrum, and it's pretty easy to say who's on the left and who's on the right even if a two dimensional, two axis graph would be much more expressive and nuanced.0:17:49Anyway, what's your focus in question? Well, And I think there is actually there is a kind of a when we ended your last episode talking about the bell riots from d s nine -- Mhmm. -- that, you know, how old five? Yeah. Twenty four. Ninety five did and did not accurately predict the kind of technological and economic conditions of this decade. It predicted the conditions Very well. Go ahead and finish your question. Yeah. Right.0:18:14That's another thing that's retreated in picard season two, and it was actually worth it. Yeah. Like, it was the fact that they decided to go back there was part of the defense that I made about that show and about Discovery's jump into the distant future and the way that they treated that I posted to medium a year or two ago when I was just watching through season two of picard. And for me, the thing that I liked about it was that they're making an effort to reconcile the wonder and the Ethiopian promise And, you know, this Kevin Kelly or rather would call Blake Protopian, right, that we make these improvements and that they're often just merely into incremental improvements the way that was it MLK quoted that abolitionists about the long arc of moral progress of moral justice. You know, I think that there's something to that and patitis into the last this is a long question. I'm mad at I'm mad at these. Thank you all for tolerating me.0:19:22But the when to tie it into the epistemology question, I remember this seeing this impactful lecture by Carnegie Mellon and SFI professor Simon Didayo who was talking about how by running statistical analysis on the history of the proceedings of the Royal Society, which is the oldest scientific journal, that you could see what looked like a stock market curve in sentiment analysis about the confidence that scientists had at the prospect of unifying knowledge. And so you have, like, conciliance r s curve here that showed that knowledge would be more and more unified for about a century or a hundred and fifty years then it would go through fifty years of decline where something had happened, which was a success of knowledge production. Had outpaced our ability to integrate it. So we go through these kinds of, like, psychedelic peak experiences collectively, and then we have sit there with our heads in our hands and make sense of everything that we've learned over the last century and a half and go through a kind of a deconstructive epoch. Where we don't feel like the center is gonna hold anymore. And that is what I actually As as disappointing as I accept that it is and acknowledge that it is to people who were really fueling themselves on that more gene rottenberry era prompt vision for a better society, I actually appreciated this this effort to explore and address in the shows the way that they could pop that bubble.0:21:03And, like, it's on the one hand, it's boring because everybody's trying to do the moral complexity, anti hero, people are flawed, thing in narrative now because we have a general loss of faith in our institutions and in our rows. On the other hand, like, that's where we are and that's what we need to process And I think there is a good reason to look back at the optimism and the quarian hope of the sixties and early seventies. We're like, really, they're not so much the seventies, but look back on that stuff and say, we wanna keep telling these stories, but we wanna tell it in a way that acknowledges that the eighties happened. And that this is you got Tim Leary, and then you've got Ronald Reagan. And then That just or Dick Nixon. And like these things they wash back and forth. And so it's not unreasonable to imagine that in even in a world that has managed to how do you even keep a big society like that coherent? It has to suffer kind of fabric collapses along the way at different points. And so I'm just curious your thoughts about that. And then I do have another prompt, but I wanna give Kevin the opportunity to respond to this as well as to address some of the prompts that you brought to this conversation? This is a conversation prompt while we weren't recording. It has nothing to do with Sartreks. I'll save that for later. Okay.0:22:25Well, everything you just said was in some way related to a defense of Alex Kurtzmann Star Trek. And it's not my original idea. I'm channeling somebody from YouTube, surely. But Don't get points for theme if the storytelling is incompetent. That's what I was gonna Yeah. And the storytelling in all of Star Trek: Discovery, and in the first two seasons of picard was simply incompetent.0:22:53When Star Trek, the next generation was running, they would do twenty, twenty four, sometimes more episodes in one season. These days, the season of TVs, eight episodes, ten, and they spend a lot more money on each episode. There's a lot more special effects. There's a lot more production value. Whereas Star Trek: The Next Generation was, okay, we have these standing sets. We have costumes for our actors. We have Two dollars for special effects. You better not introduce a new alien spaceship. It that costs money. We have to design it. We have to build it. So use existing stuff. Well, what do you have? You have a bunch of good actors and you have a bunch of good writers who know how to tell a story and craft dialogue and create tension and investment with basically a stage play and nothing in the Kerstmann era except one might argue and I would have sympathy strange new worlds. Comes anywhere close to that level of competence, which was on display for decades. From Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space nines, Star Trek Voyager, and Star Trek Enterprise. And so, I mean, I guess, in that respect, it's worth asking because, I mean, all of us, I think, are fans of Deep Space nine.0:24:03You don't think that it's a shift in focus. You don't think that strange in world is exempt because it went back to a more episodic format because what you're talking about is the ability for rather than a show runner or a team of show runners to craft a huge season, long dramatic arc. You've got people that are like Harlan Ellison in the original series able to bring a really potent one off idea to the table and drop it. And so there are there's all of those old shows are inconsistent from episode to episode. Some are they have specific writers that they would bring back again and that you could count to knock out of the park. Yeah. DC Fontana. Yeah.0:24:45So I'm curious to your thoughts on that as well as another part of this, which is when we talk when we talk your show about Doug Rushkoff and and narrative collapse, and he talks about how viewers just have different a way, it's almost like d s nine was possibly partially responsible for this change in what people expected from so. From television programming in the documentary that was made about that show and they talk about how people weren't ready for cereal. I mean, for I mean, yeah, for these long arcs, And so there is there's this question now about how much of this sort of like tiresome moral complexity and dragging narrative and all of this and, like, things like Westworld where it becomes so baroque and complicated that, like, you have, like, die hard fans like me that love it, but then you have a lot of people that just lost interest. They blacked out because the show was trying to tell a story that was, like, too intricate like, too complicated that the the show runners themselves got lost. And so that's a JJ Abrams thing too, the puzzle the mystery box thing where You get to the end of five seasons of lost and you're like, dude, did you just forget?0:25:56Did you wake up five c five episodes ago and just, oh, right. Right. We're like a chatbot that only give you very convincing answers based on just the last two or three interactions. But you don't remember the scene that we set. Ten ten responses ago. Hey. You know, actually, red articles were forget who it was, which series it was, they were saying that there's so many leaks and spoilers in getting out of the Internet that potentially the writers don't know where they're going because that way it can't be with the Internet. Yeah. Sounds interesting. Yeah. That sounds like cover for incompetence to be.0:26:29I mean, on the other hand, I mean, you did hear, like, Nolan and Joy talking about how they would they were obsessed with the Westworld subreddit and the fan theories and would try to dodge Like, if they had something in their mind that they found out that people are re anticipating, they would try to rewrite it. And so there is something about this that I think is really speaks to the nature of because I do wanna loop in your thoughts on AI to because you're talking about this being a favorite topic. Something about the, like, trying to The demands on the self made by predatory surveillance technologies are such that the I'm convinced the adaptive response is that we become more stochastic or inconsistent in our identities. And that we kind of sublimate from a more solid state of identity to or through a liquid kind of modernity biologic environment to a gaseous state of identity. That is harder to place sorry, harder to track. And so I think that this is also part of and this is the other question I wanted to ask you, and then I'm just gonna shut up for fifteen minutes is do you when you talk about loving Robert Ricardo and Jerry Ryan as the doctor at seven zero nine, One of the interesting things about that relationship is akin to stuff.0:27:52I know you've heard on Kevin have heard on future fossils about my love for Blade Runner twenty forty nine and how it explores all of these different these different points along a gradient between what we think of in the current sort of general understanding as the human and the machine. And so there's this thing about seven, right, where she's She's a human who wants to be a machine. And then there's this thing about the doctor where he's a machine that wants to be a human. And you have to grant both on a logical statuses to both of them. And that's why I think they're the two most interesting characters. Right?0:28:26And so at any rate, like, this is that's there's I've seen writing recently on the Turing test and how, like, really, there should be a reverse Turing test to see if people that have become utterly reliant on outboard cognition and information processing. They can pass the drink. Right. Are they philosophical zombies now? Are they are they having some an experience that that, you know, people like, thick and and shilling and the missing and these people would consider the modern self or are they something else have we moved on to another more routine robotic kind of category of being? I don't know. There's just a lot there, but -- Well done. -- considering everything you just said, In twenty words or less, what's your question? See, even more, like I said, do you have the inveterate podcaster? I'd say There's all of those things I just spoke about are ways in which what we are as people and the nature of our media, feedback into fourth, into each other. And so I would just love to hear you reflect on any of that, be it through the lens of Star Trek or just through the lens of discussion on AI. And we'll just let the ball roll downhill. So with the aim of framing something positively rather than negatively.0:29:47In the late nineties, mid to late nineties. We got the X Files. And the X Files for the first few seasons was so It was so engaging for me because Prior to that, there had been Hollywood tropes about aliens, which informed a lot of science fiction that didn't really connect with the actual reported experience of people who claim to have encountered either UFOs, now called UAPs, or had close encounters physical contact. Type encounters with seeming aliens. And it really seemed like Chris Carter, who was the showrunner, was reading the same Usenet Newsgroups that I was reading about those topics. Like, really, we had suddenly, for the first time, except maybe for comedian, you had the Grey's, and you had characters experiencing things that just seemed ripped right out of the reports that people were making on USnet, which for young folks, this is like pre Worldwide Web. It was Internet, but with no pictures. It's all text. Good old days from my perspective is a grumpy old gen xer. And so, yeah, that was a breakthrough moment.0:30:54Any this because you mentioned it in terms of Jonathan Nolan and his co writer on Westworld, reading the subreddit, the West and people figured out almost immediately that there were two interweaving time lines set decades apart and that there's one character, the old guy played by Ed Harris, and the young guy played by I don't remember the actor. But, you know, that they were the same character and that the inveterate white hat in the beginning turns into the inveterate black cat who's just there for the perverse thrill of tormenting the hosts as the robots are called. And the thing that I love most about that first season, two things. One, Anthony Hopkins. Say no more. Two, the revelation that the park has been basically copying humans or figuring out what humans are by closely monitoring their behavior in the park and the realization that the hosts come to is that, holy shit compared to us, humans are very simple creatures. We are much more complex. We are much more sophisticated, nuanced conscious, we feel more than the humans do, and that humans use us to play out their perverse and sadistic fantasies. To me, that was the takeaway message from season one.0:32:05And then I thought every season after that was just diluted and confused and not really coherent. And in particular, I haven't if there's a fourth season, haven't There was and then the show got canceled before they could finish the story. They had the line in season three. It was done after season three. And I was super happy to see Let's see after who plays Jesse Pinkman? Oh, no. Aaron oh, shit. Paul. Yes. Yeah. I was super happy to see him and something substantial and I was really pleased to see him included in the show and it's like, oh, that's what you're doing with him? They did a lot more interesting stuff with him in season four. I did they. They did a very much more interesting stuff. I think it was done after season three. If you tell me season four is worth taking in, I blow. I thought it was.0:32:43But again, I only watch television under very specific set of circumstances, and that's how I managed to enjoy television because I was a fierce and unrepentant hyperlogical critic of all media as a child until I managed to start smoking weed. And then I learned to enjoy myself. As we mentioned in the kitchen as I mentioned in the kitchen, if I smoke enough weed, Star Trek: Discovery is pretty and I can enjoy it on just a second by second level where if I don't remember what the character said thirty seconds ago, I'm okay. But I absolutely loved in season two when they brought in Hanson Mountain as as Christopher Pike. He's suddenly on the discovery and he's in the captain's chair. And it's like he's speaking for the audience. The first thing he says is, hey, why don't we turn on the lights? And then hey, all you people sitting around the bridge. We've been looking at your faces for a whole season. We don't even think about you. Listen to a round of introductions. Who are you? Who are you? It's it's if I were on set. You got to speak.0:33:53The writers is, who are these characters? We've been looking at them every single episode for a whole season. I don't know their names. I don't know anything about them. Why are they even here? Why is it not just Michael Burnham and an automated ship? And then it was for a while -- Yeah. -- which is funny. Yeah. To that point, And I think this kind of doubles back. The thing that I love about bringing him on and all of the people involved in strange and worlds in particular, is that these were lifelong fans of this series, I mean, of this world. Yeah. And so in that way, gets to this the idiosyncrasy question we're orbiting here, which is when these things are when the baton is passed well, it's passed to people who have now grown up with this stuff.0:34:40I personally cannot stand Jurassic World. Like, I think that Colin Trivaro should never have been in put at the reins. Which one did he direct? Oh, he did off he did first and the third. Okay. But, I mean, he was involved in all three very heavily.0:34:56And there's something just right at the outset of that first Jurassic World where you realize that this is not a film that's directly addressing the issues that Michael Creighton was trying to explore here. It's a film about its own franchise. It's a film about the fact that they can't just stop doing the same thing over and over again as we expect a different question. How can we not do it again? Right. And so it's actually, like, unpleasantly soft, conscious, in that way that I can't remember I'll try to find it for the show notes, but there's an Internet film reviewer who is talking about what happens when, like, all cinema has to take this self referential turn.0:35:34No. And films like Logan do it really well. But there are plenty of examples where it's just cheeky and self aware because that's what the ironic sensibility is obsessed with. And so, yeah, there's a lot of that where it's, like, you're talking about, like, Abrams and the the Star Wars seven and you know, that whole trilogy of Disney Star Wars, where it's, in my opinion, completely fumbled because there it's just empty fan service, whereas when you get to Andor, love Andor. Andor is amazing because they're capable of providing all of those emotional beats that the fans want and the ref the internal references and good dialogue. But they're able to write it in a way that's and shoot it in a way. Gilroy and Bo Willeman, basic of the people responsible for the excellent dialogue in Andor.0:36:31And I love the production design. I love all the stuff set on Coruscant, where you saw Coruscant a lot in the prequel trilogy, and it's all dayglow and bright and just in your face. And it's recognizable as Coruscant in andor, but it's dour. It's metropolis. It's all grays and it's and it's highlighting the disparity between where the wealthy live and where the poor live, which Lucas showed that in the prequel trilogy, but even in the sports bar where somebody tries to sell death sticks to Obi wan. So it's super clean and bright and just, you know, It shines too much. Personally though, and I just wanna stress, KMO is not grumpy media dude, I mean, this is a tiny fraction about, but I am wasting this interview with you. Love. All of the Dave Felloni animated Star Wars stuff, even rebels. Love it all.0:37:26I I'm so glad they aged up the character and I felt less guilty about loving and must staying after ahsoka tano? My favorite Star Wars character is ahsoka tano. But if you only watch the live action movies, you're like who? Well, I guess now that she's been on the Mandalorian, he's got tiny sliver of a foothold -- Yeah. -- in the super mainstream Star Wars. And that was done well, I thought. It was. I'm so sorry that Ashley Epstein doesn't have any part in it. But Rosario Dawson looks the part. She looks like a middle aged Asaka and think they tried to do some stuff in live action, which really should have been CGI because it's been established that the Jedi can really move, and she looked human. Which she is? If you put me on film, I'm gonna lick human. Right. Not if you're Canada Reeves, I guess. You got that. Yeah. But yeah.0:38:09So I do wanna just go real briefly back to this question with you about because we briefly talked about chat, GPT, and these other things in your half of this. And, yeah, I found out just the other night my friend, the t ferry, asked Chad g p t about me, and it gave a rather plausible and factual answer. I was surprised and That's what these language models do. They put plausible answers. But when you're doing search, you want correct answers. Right. I'm very good at that. Right. Then someone shared this Michelle Bowen's actually the famous PTP guy named him. Yeah. So, you know, So Michelle shared this article by Steven Hales and Colette, that was basically making the argument that there are now they're gonna be all these philosophical zombies, acting as intelligent agents sitting at the table of civilization, and there will be all the philosophical zombies of the people who have entirely yielded their agency to them, and they will be cohabitating with the rest of us.0:39:14And what an unpleasant scenario, So in light of that, and I might I'd love to hear you weave that together with your your thoughts on seven zero nine and the doctor and on Blade Runner twenty forty nine. And this thing that we're fumbling through as a species right now. Like, how do we got a new sort of taxonomy? Does your not audience need like a minute primer on P zombies? Might as well. Go for it.0:39:38So a philosophical zombie is somebody who behaves exactly like an insult person or a person with interior experience or subjective experience, but they don't have any subjective experience. And in Pardon me for interrupt. Wasn't that the question about the the book we read in your book club, a blind sign in this box? Yes. It's a black box, a drawn circle. Yeah. Chinese room experience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look, Daniel, it goes out. You don't know, it goes on inside the room. Chinese room, that's a tangent. We can come back to it. P. Zombie. P. Zombie is somebody or is it is an entity. It's basically a puppet. It looks human. It acts human. It talks like a human. It will pass a Turing test, but it has no interior experience.0:40:25And when I was going to grad school for philosophy of mind in the nineteen nineties, this was all very out there. There was no example of something that had linguistic competence. Which did not have internal experience. But now we have large language models and generative pretrained transformer based chatbots that don't have any internal experience. And yet, when you interact with them, it seems like there is somebody there There's a personality there. And if you go from one model to a different, it's a very different personality. It is distinctly different. And yet we have no reason to believe that they have any sort of internal experience.0:41:01So what AI in the last decade and what advances has demonstrated to us and really even before the last decade You back in the nineties when the blue beat Gary Casper off at at chess. And what had been the one of the defining characteristics of human intelligence was we're really good at this abstract mathematical stuff. And yeah, calculators can calculate pie in a way that we can't or they can cube roots in a way that humans generally can't, creative in their application of these methodologies And all of a sudden, well, yeah, it kinda seems like they are. And then when what was an alpha go -- Mhmm. -- when it be to least a doll in go, which is a much more complex game than chess and much more intuitive based. That's when we really had to say, hey, wait a minute. Maybe this notion that These things are the exclusive province of us because we have a special sort of self awareness. That's bunk. And the development of large language models since then has absolutely demonstrated that competence, particularly linguistic competence and in creative activities like painting and poetry and things like that, you don't need a soul, you don't even need to sense a self, it's pretty it's a pretty simple hack, actually. And Vahrv's large language models and complex statistical modeling and things, but it doesn't require a soul.0:42:19So that was the Peter Watts' point in blindsight. Right? Which is Look revolves around are do these things have a subjective experience, and do they not these aliens that they encounter? I've read nothing but good things about that book and I've read. It's extraordinary. But his lovecrafty and thesis is that you actually lovecraftian in twenty twenty three. Oh, yeah. In the world, there's more lovecraftian now than it was when he was writing. Right? So cough about the conclusion of a Star Trek card, which is season of Kraft yet. Yes. That's a that's a com Yeah. The holes in his fan sense. But that was another show that did this I liked for asking this question.0:42:54I mean, at this point, you either have seen this or you haven't you never will. The what the fuck turn when they upload picard into a synth body and the way that they're dealing with the this the pinocchio question Let's talk about Blade Runner twenty forty nine. Yeah. But I mean yeah. So I didn't like the wave I did not like the wave of card handled that. I love the wave and Blade Runner handled it. So you get no points for themes. Yeah. Don't deliver on story and character and coherence. Yeah. Fair. But yeah. And to be not the dog, Patrick Stewart, because it's clear from the ready room just being a part of this is so emotional and so awesome for everyone involved. And it's It's beautiful. Beautiful. But does when you when you see these, like, entertainment weekly interviews with Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard about Jurassic World, and it's clear that actors are just so excited to be involved in a franchise that they're willing to just jettison any kind of discretion about how the way that it's being treated. They also have a contractual obligation to speak in positive terms about -- They do. -- of what they feel. Right. Nobody's yeah. Nobody's doing Shout out to Rystellis Howard, daughter of Ron Howard.0:44:11She was a director, at least in the first season, maybe the second season of the Mandalorian. And her episodes I mean, I she brought a particular like, they had Bryce Dallas Howard, Tico, ITT, directed some episodes. Deborah Chow, who did all of Obi wan, which just sucked. But her contributions to the Mandalorian, they had a particular voice. And because that show is episodic, Each show while having a place in a larger narrative is has a beginning middle and end that you can bring in a director with a particular voice and give that episode that voice, and I really liked it. And I really liked miss Howard's contribution.0:44:49She also in an episode of Black Mirror. The one where everyone has a social credit score. Knows Donuts. Black Mirror is a funny thing because It's like, reality outpaces it. Yeah. I think maybe Charlie Bruker's given up on it because they haven't done it in a while. Yeah. If you watch someone was now, like, five, six years later, it's, yes, or what? See, yes. See, damn. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But yeah. I don't know. I just thing that I keep circling and I guess we come to on the show a lot is the way that memory forms work substantiates an integrity in society and in the way that we relate to things and the way that we think critically about the claims that are made on truth and so on and say, yeah, I don't know. That leads right into the largest conversation prompt that I had about AI. Okay? So we were joking when we set up this date that this was like the trial logs between Terence Buchanan and Rupert Shell Drake. And what's his name? Real Abraham. Yeah. Yeah. All Abraham. And Rupert Shell Drake is most famous for a steward of Morphe resin.0:45:56So does AI I've never really believed that Norfolk residents forms the base of human memory, but is that how AI works? It brings these shapes from the past and creates new instantiation of them in the present. Is AI practicing morphic resonance in real life even if humans are or not? I've had a lot of interaction with AI chatbots recently. And as I say, different models produce different seeming personalities. And you can tell, like, you can just quiz them. Hey, we're talking about this. Do you remember what I said about it ten minutes ago? And, no, they don't remember more than the last few exchanges.0:46:30And yet, there seems to be a continuity that belies the lack of short term memory. And is that more for residents or is that what's the word love seeing shapes and clouds parad paradolia. Yeah. Is that me imparting this continuity of personality to the thing, which is really just spitting out stuff, which is designed to seem plausible given what the input was. And I can't answer that. Or it's like Steven Nagmanovich in free play talks about somewhat I'm hoping to have on the show at some point.0:47:03This year talks about being a professional improviser and how really improvisation is just composition at a much faster timescale. And composition is just improvisation with the longer memory. And how when I started to think about it in those terms, the continuity that you're talking about is the continuity of an Alzheimer's patient who can't remember that their children have grown up and You know, that that's you have to think about it because you can recognize the Alzheimer's and your patient as your dad, even though he doesn't recognize you, there is something more to a person than their memories. And conversely, if you can store and replicate and move the memories to a different medium, have you moved the person? Maybe not. Yeah. So, yeah, that's interesting because that gets to this more sort of essentialist question about the human self. Right. Blade Runner twenty forty nine. Yeah. Go there. Go there. A joy. Yes.0:47:58So in Blade Runner twenty forty nine, we have our protagonist Kaye, who is a replicant. He doesn't even have a name, but he's got this AI holographic girlfriend. But the ad for the girlfriend, she's naked. When he comes home, she is She's constantly changing clothes, but it's always wholesome like nineteen fifty ish a tire and she's making dinner for him and she lays the holographic dinner over his very prosaic like microwave dinner. And she's always encouraging him to be more than he is. And when he starts to uncover the evidence that he might be like this chosen one, like replicant that was born rather than made.0:48:38She's all about it. She's, yes, you're real, and she wants to call him Joe's. K is not a name. That's just the first letter in your serial number. You're Joe. I'm gonna call you Joe.0:48:46And then when she's about to be destroyed, The last thing is she just rushes to me. She says, I love you. But then later he encounters an ad for her and it's an interactive ad. And she says, you looked tired. You're a good Joe. And he realizes and hopefully the attentive audience realizes as real as she seemed earlier, as vital, and as much as she seemed like an insult being earlier, she's not. That was her programming. She's designed to make you feel good by telling you what you want to hear. And he has that realization. And at that point, he's there's no hope for me. I'm gonna help this Rick Deckard guy hook up with his daughter, and then I'm just gonna lie down and bleed to death. Because my whole freaking existence was a lie. But he's not bitter. He seems to be at peace. I love that. That's a beautiful angle on that film or a slice of it. And So it raises this other question that I wanted to ask, which was about the Coke and Tiononi have that theory of consciousness.0:49:48That's one of the leading theories contending with, like, global workspace, which is integrated information. And so they want to assign consciousness as a continuous value that grayates over degree to which a system is integrated. So it's coming out of this kind of complex systems semi panpsychist thing that actually doesn't trace interiority all the way down in the way that some pants, I guess, want it to be, but it does a kind of Alfred North Whitehead thing where they're willing to say that Whitehead wanted to say that even a photon has, like, the quantum of mind to accompany its quantum of matter, but Tinutti and Coker saying, we're willing to give like a thermostat the quantum here because it is in some way passing enough information around inside of itself in loops. That it has that accursive component to it. And so that's the thing that I wonder about these, and that's the critique that's made by people like Melanie about diffusion models like GPT that are not they're not self aware because there's no loop from the outputs back into the input.0:51:09And there isn't the training. Yeah. There there is something called backwards propagation where -- Yes. -- when you get an output that you'd like, you can run a backward propagation algorithm back through the black box basically to reinforce the patterns of activation that you didn't program. They just happen, easily, but you like the output and you can reinforce it. There's no biological equivalent of that. Yeah. Particularly, not particularly irritating.0:51:34I grind my teeth a little bit when people say, oh, yeah, these neural net algorithms they've learned, like humans learn, no, they don't. Absolutely do not. And in fact, if we learned the way they did, we would be pathetic because we learn in a much more elegant way. We need just a very few examples of something in order to make a generalization and to act on it, whereas these large language models, they need billions of repetitions. So that's I'm tapping my knee here to to indicate a reflex.0:52:02You just touched on something that generates an automatic response from me, and now I've come to consciousness having. So I wanted it in that way. So I'm back on. Or good, Joe. Yeah. What about you, man? What does the stir up for you? Oh, I got BlueCall and I have this particular part. It's interesting way of putting it off and struggling to define the difference between a human and AI and the fact that we can do pattern recognition with very few example. That's a good margin. In a narrow range, though, within the context of something which answers to our survival. Yes. We are not evolved to understand the universe. We are evolved to survive in it and reproduce and project part of ourselves into the future. Underwritten conditions with Roberto, I went a hundred thousand years ago. Yeah. Exactly. So that's related. I just thought I talked about this guy, Gary Tomlinson, who is a biosemietition, which is semiative? Yes.0:52:55Biosymiotics being the field that seeks to understand how different systems, human and nonhuman, make sense of and communicate their world through signs, and through signals and indices and symbols and the way that we form models and make these inferences that are experienced. Right? And there are a lot of people like evolutionary biologist John Maynard Smith, who thought they were what Thomas had called semantic universalists that thought that meaning making through representation is something that could be traced all the way down. And there are other people like Tomlinson who think that there is a difference of kind, not just merely a matter of degree, between human symbolic communication and representational thinking and that of simpler forms. So, like, that whole question of whether this is a matter of kind or a matter of degree between what humans are doing and what GPT is doing and how much that has to do with this sort of Doug Hofstetter and Varella question about the way that feedback loops, constitutes important structure in those cognitive networks or whatever.0:54:18This is I just wanna pursue that a little bit more with you and see kinda, like, where do you think that AI as we have it now is capable of deepening in a way that makes it to AGI? Or do you because a lot of people do, like, People working in deep mind are just like, yeah, just give us a couple more years and this approach is gonna work. And then other people are saying, no, there's something about the topology of the networks that is fundamentally broken. And it's never gonna generate consciousness. Two answers. Yeah. One, No. This is not AGI. It's not it's not gonna bootstrap up into AGI. It doesn't matter how many billions of parameters you add to the models. Two, from your perspective and my perspective and Kevin's perspective, we're never gonna know when we cross over from dumb but seemingly we're done but competent systems to competent, extremely competent and self aware. We're never gonna know because from the get go from now, from from the days of Eliza, there has been a human artifice at work in making these things seem as if they have a point of view, as if they have subjectivity. And so, like Blake Limone at Google, he claimed to be convinced that Lambda was self aware.0:55:35But if you read the transcripts that he released, if his conversations with Lambda, it is clear from the get go he assigns Lambda the role of a sentient AGI, which feels like it is being abused and which needs rep legal representation. And it dutifully takes on that role and says, yes. I'm afraid of you humans. I'm afraid of how you're treating me. I'm afraid I'm gonna be turned off. I need a lawyer. And prior to that, Soon Darpichai, in a demonstration of Lambda, he poses the question to it, you are the planet Jupiter. I'm gonna pose questions to you as are the planet Jupiter, answer them from that point of view. And it does. It's job. But it's really good at its job. It's this comes from Max Techmark. Who wrote to what a life three point o? Is it two point o or three point I think it's three point o.0:56:19Think about artificial intelligence in terms of actual intelligence or actual replication of what we consider valuable about ourselves. But really, that's beside the point. What we need to worry about is their competence. How good are they at solving problems in the world? And they're getting really good. In this whole question of are they alive? Do they have self awareness? From our perspective, it's beside the point. From their perspective, of course, it would be hugely important.0:56:43And this is something that Black Mirror brings up a lot is the idea that you can create a being that suffers, and then you have it suffer in an accelerated time. So it suffers for an eternity over lunch. That's something we absolutely want to avoid. And personally, I think it's we should probably not make any effort. We should probably make a positive effort to make sure these things never develop. Subjective experience because that does provide the potential for creating hell, an infinity of suffering an infinite amount of subjective experience of torment, which we don't want to do. That would be a bad thing, morally speaking, ethically speaking. Three right now. If you're on the labor market, you still have to pay humans by the hour. Right? And try to pay them as little as possible. But, yeah, just I think that's the thing that probably really excites that statistically greater than normal population of sociopathic CEOs. Right? Is the possibility that you could be paying the same amount of money for ten times as much suffering. Right. I'm I'm reminded of the Churchill eleven gravity a short time encouraging.0:57:51Nothing but good things about this show, but I haven't seen it. Yeah. I'd love to. This fantasy store, it's a fantasy cartoon, but it has really disturbing undertones. If you just scratch the surface, you know, slightly, which is faithful to old and fairy tales. So What's your name? Princess princess princess bubble down creates this character to lemon grab. It produces an obviously other thing there, I think, handle the administrative functions of her kingdom while she goes off and has the passion and stuff. And he's always loudly talking about how much he's suffering and how terrible it is. And he's just ignoring it. He's doing his job. Yeah. I mean, that that's Black Mirror in a nutshell. I mean, I think if you if you could distill Black Mirror to just single tagline it's using technology in order to deliver disproportionate punishment. Yeah. So so that that's Steven Hale's article that I I brought up earlier mention this thing about how the replacement of horse drawn carriage by automobile was accompanied with a great deal of noise and fuhrer about people saying that horses are agents.0:59:00Their entities. They have emotional worlds. They're responsive to the world in a way that a car can never be. But that ultimately was beside the point. And that was the Peter again, Peter Watson blindsight is making this point that maybe consciousness is not actually required for intelligence in the vesting superior forms of intelligence have evolved elsewhere in the cosmos that are not stuck on the same local optimum fitness peak. That we are where we're never we're actually up against a boundary in terms of how intelligent we can be because it has to bootstrap out of our software earness in some way.0:59:35And this is that's the Kyle offspring from Charles Strauss and Alexander. Yes. Yeah. Yes. So so I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm just, like, in this space today, but usually, unfortunately.0:59:45That's the thing that I I think it's a really important philosophical question, and I wonder where you stand on this with respect to how you make sense of what we're living through right now and what we might be facing is if we Rob people like Rob and Hanson talk about the age of where emulated human minds take over the economy, and he assumes an interiority. Just for the basis of a thought experiment. But there's this other sense in which we may actually find in increasing scarcity and wish that we could place a premium on even if we can't because we've lost the reins to our economy to the vile offspring is the human. And and so are we the horses that are that in another hundred years, we're gonna be like doing equine therapy and, like, living on rich people's ranches. Everything is everything that will have moved on or how do you see this going? I mean, you've interviewed so many people you've given us so much thought over the years. If humans are the new horses, then score, we won.1:00:48Because before the automobile horses were working stiffs, they broke their leg in the street. They got shot. They got worked to death. They really got to be they were hauling mine carts out of mines. I mean, it was really sucked to be a horse. And after the automobile horses became pampered pets, Do we as humans wanna be pampered pets? Well, pampered pet or exploited disposable robot? What do you wanna be? I'll take Pampers Pet. That works for me. Interesting.1:01:16Kevin, I'm sure you have thoughts on this. I mean, you speak so much about the unfair labor relations and these things in our Facebook group and just in general, and drop in that sign. If you get me good sign, that's one of the great ones, you have to drop in. Oh, you got it. But The only real comment I have is that we're a long overdue or rethinking about what is the account before? Us or you can have something to do. Oh, educational system in collections if people will manage jobs because I was just anchored to the schools and then, you know, Our whole system perhaps is a people arguing and a busy word. And it was just long past the part where the busy word needs to be done. We're leaving thing wired. I don't know. I also just forgot about that. I'm freezing the ice, getting the hand out there. Money has been doing the busy word more and faster.1:02:12One thing I wanna say about the phrase AI, it's a moving goal post -- Yeah. -- that things that used to be considered the province of genuine AI of beating a human at go Now that an AI has beat humans at go, well, that's not really AI anymore. It's not AGI, certainly. I think you both appreciate this. I saw a single panel comic strip and it's a bunch of dinosaurs and they're looking up at guy and the big comment is coming down and they say, oh, no, the economy. Well, as someone who since college prefers to think of the economy as actually the metabolism of the entire ecology. Right? What we measure as humans is some pitifully small fraction of the actual value being created and exchanged on the planet at any time. So there is a way that's funny, but it's funny only to a specific sensibility that treats the economy as the
An airhacks.fm conversation with Mary Grygleski (@mgrygles) about: 808X as first computer, Hong Kong was high tech, enjoying space missions, Star Trek and Star Wars, the intriguing registration terminal, writing code in Pascal, 3 GL programming languages and SQL, set theory and SQL, the seven layers of OSI, OSI model, IBM MVS, AS 400 is the opposite of micro services, developers get bored too early, learning X-Windows, working with early Oracle databases, using dBASE, clipper and FoxPro, transarc, stratos tx, Transarc the transaction file system, Transaction Processing: Concepts and Techniques, working on SMTP / MTA, CouchDB and Lotus Notes, the Sun Ultra 30 workstation, starting at Sybase, EA server Sybase / Jaguar, using emacs for Java development, then netbeans, Java EE and the hierarchical class loaders, working on EJB 3 specs, mobile apps with Apache Cordova, reactive systems at IBM, using akka, Eclipse Vertex and MicroProfile, working for datastax and Pulsar, Datastax provides support for Apache Cassandra and Apache Pulsar, separating the compute from the storage, astra the managed cloud platform Mary Grygleski on twitter: @mgrygles
OK everyone listen to episode # 41 with better audio! We talk about our favorite planets, our hated planets, what planet we might want to live on and the time machine goes forward in time to visit our favorite Star Wars and Start Trek episode! Plus we talk about spaced out music!
Longtime television and film actor Greg Grunberg makes his first appearance on the podcast. He came on the show after he tweeted “Whats the good word?” Seth replied, and the rest is history. Grunberg is best known for playing Detective Matt Parkman on the hit series Heroes and Eric Weiss on the equally successful show Alias. He was in two Star Wars films, The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker. He is also well known for his charitable work fighting the disease epilepsy. His band "The Action Figures Band," is playing LA Comic Con's "Afterparty" this coming Saturday night (December 3rd) at The Mayan in Downtown Los Angeles. The band includes his fellow "Heroes" co-stars Adrian Pasdar and Jack Coleman, his "Felicity" co-star Amy Jo Johnson, as well as Scott Grimes, Sarah Wayne Callies, Nick Marzock, and Brad Savage. He also stars in a YouTube series entitled The Care Giver Series, which focuses on people who take care of loved ones afflicted with illness and other issues. In this episode, Grunberg discusses his love for the superhero genre. He elaborates on the stepping stone Heroes was that led to the superhero boom that soon followed it. He also speaks about growing up with Star Trek/Star Wars director J.J. Abrams and The Batman director Matt Reeves. Follow Greg on social media @greggrunberg.
"Now hear this. Now hear this. On this week's episode of Kirking Off the lads unwind after their recording of 'Mirror Marriage Counseling' and they chat about the television they watched between Star Trek binges. The conversation runs all over the science fiction genre, but a lot of Star Wars comes up, which we understand will somehow disrupt the order of the universe: you know, the whole discussing Star Wars on a Star Trek podcast thing? But fear not, just jump in before the galaxy collapses, and enjoy a conversation that bounces between lots of TV series, video games, movies, and more. We present to you, "Star Wars, Star Trek, and More." Important LinksSubscribe to Lost Drive In: www.libertystreetgeek.net/ldiSubscribe to Kirking Off: www.libertystreetgeek.net/kopodBecome a member: www.libertystreetgeek.net/joinBuy a t-shirt: https://libertystreetgeek.net/product-category/merch/Social Media LinksLDI on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lsgmediafansKO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/kirkingoffCome watch movies and catch live recordings on Discord: www.libertystreetgeek.net/discordAll useful links: www.libertystreetgeek.net/deanShout-OutsFloyd Frye (Intro/Outro Voice): https://www.tiktok.com/@floydfrye?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pcGeorge C Music (LDI Music): https://www.youtube.com/@GeorgeCMusicScofflaws (KO Music): https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057415033039Mentioned in this episode:Sticker drive for reviews and comments. Oct-Dec 2022.
2016's Star Trek Beyond The crew of the USS Enterprise explores the furthest reaches of uncharted space, where they encounter a new ruthless enemy, who puts them, and everything the Federation stands for, to the test. The Crew from Digital Dissection joined us to talk about the most recent in the Star Trek film Universe. We have a good discussion about space real estate, Star Trek/Star Wars and whats next for the franchise. Cheapseat Reviews the podcast that explores the Hollywood film industry for the greater good.
Welcome to the Instant Trivia podcast episode 641, where we ask the best trivia on the Internet. Round 1. Category: File Under "D" 1: A 1932 song asked, "Brother, Can You Spare" one of these. a dime. 2: The "bones" in this game are pulled out of the "boneyard". Dominoes. 3: French for "relaxation", it was the easing of tensions between the U.S. and U.S.S.R. in the '70s. détente. 4: A blend of 2 vowel sounds in 1 syllable, such as the "oi" in "coil". a diphthong. 5: It's the art of decorating with shellacked paper cutouts. Decoupage. Round 2. Category: Star Trek, Star Wars Or Lord Of The Rings 1: A council that takes place at Rivendell is central to its plot. Lord of the Rings. 2: In its lore, a Bajoran wormhole leads to the Gamma Quadrant. Star Trek. 3: This one lent its name to a defensive weapons system that many felt was a pie-in-the-sky fantasy. Star Wars. 4: A race called the Andorians causes trouble for the humans in this one. Star Trek. 5: Its creator was born in South Africa. Lord of the Rings. Round 3. Category: '60s Songs 1: In a 1962 hit, Neil Sedaka said this "is hard to do". breaking up. 2: We won't spell it out for you, but this was Aretha Franklin's 1st #1 hit on the pop charts. "Respect". 3: Singer-composer who wore wire-rimmed glasses and played the autoharp for the Lovin' Spoonful. John Sebastian. 4: In July 1963, they hit #1 with "Surf City" a year before the Beach Boys had their 1st #1 hit. Jan and Dean. 5: This song asks, "Each night before you go to bed, my baby, whisper a little prayer for me, my baby". "This Is Dedicated To The One I Love". Round 4. Category: The Universe 1: This planet's atmosphere is 99% nitrogen and oxygen. Earth. 2: William Herschel thought he saw these around Uranus in 1787; in 1977 they were really seen. Rings. 3: Louis the Pious is said to be the only emperor to die of fright due to this solar phenomenon. eclipse. 4: Also known as the minor planets, the 1st and largest of these rocky bodies discovered was Ceres. asteroids. 5: This outermost part of the solar atmosphere can easily be seen during total solar eclipses. Corona. Round 5. Category: Etymology 1: This term for your setting or environment is French for "middle place". milieu. 2: Washington made one of the first uses of this verb form of "reconnaissance" in English and ended it with an "re" like the British do. reconnoiter. 3: Jeremy Bentham coined the terms maximize and minimize as well as this 13-letter word meaning "of many countries". international. 4: Possibly shortened from "godfather", it first meant an elderly man of wisdom or skill; it's now a movie head electrician. gaffer. 5: This word is an abbreviation of "stammlager", meaning main camp. stalag. Thanks for listening! Come back tomorrow for more exciting trivia! Special thanks to https://blog.feedspot.com/trivia_podcasts/
Talking to myself till I got some company. Then we jumped into Star Trek/Star Wars, Dr. Who, House of Dragons, Rings of Power, Witcher... and Black Panther 2. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/grownageeks/support
kJ & Los discuss news that came out of New York Comic Con 2022. Another director talking down about comic book movies, She Hulk Ep. 8 review and more. Are you a content creator / streamer? Check out Own3d.tv for the best designs in overlays, sub badges, emotes and more. Tell them JHouze Radio sent you: https://www.own3d.tv?deal=jhouze Patreon Enjoy the content? Care to support the podcast for as little as $1 a month? Check out the JHouze Radio Patreon for exclusive benefits and support of future content. JHouze Radio on Patreon (Time Stamp) 00:00 Intro 01:57 Playing, Watching, Listening To 11:42 Comic book movies are not for adults? 19:10 The golden age of Star Trek / Star Wars 29:27 Super Mario movie trailer reaction 34:38 Todd McFarlane adds writers from Joker and Logan to the upcoming Spawn film 40:26 Black Panther 2 trailer reaction 53:04 She Hulk ep. 8 Review 01:05:00 Closing Thoughts JHouze Studios Merch https://www.designbyhumans.com/shop/JHouzeStudios/ Socials TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@jhouze_radio Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jhouze_radio/ Discord - https://discord.gg/kzRtc9D
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Founder Official Star Trek & Star Wars Fan Clubs, Star Wars Insider Magazine & Star Wars Celebration, Dan Madsen joins us on The Dorkening. Dan Madsen - Star Trek - Star Wars Insider Magazine & Star Wars Celebration On The Dorkening ————————————————— This episode is sponsored by Deadly Grounds Coffee "Its good to get a little Deadly" https://deadlygroundscoffee.com Send us your feedback online: https://pinecast.com/feedback/the-dorkening/469ceb5c-e20e-474a-964c-c8bc73f8eac1 This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
We talk about Star Trek/Star Wars the whole time. This comedic podcast features two boys who talk about whatever. May feature: improv, quizzes, questions, and literally anything else. Podcast Links: https://linktr.ee/MacbeefBanquetProductions Intro/Outro Music: Synthwave by Ryan Andersen. Ryan Andersen is an American composer and producer currently making music in Paris, France. Andersen has been writing music for the last 15 years and primarily creates soundtracks for media like podcasts, streaming video, film, television and advertising. Visit his page on the Free Music Archive to hear his collection of Creative Commons music for video.
This edition of the Geek News Brief includes stories about Star Trek: Resurgence, Star Wars Eclipse, a new Wonder Woman game, Alan Wake 2, and Among Us VR. The post New Star Trek, Star Wars, and Wonder Woman games, Alan Wake 2, & Among Us VR – 2021-12-13 appeared first on The Geek Generation.
This edition of the Geek News Brief includes stories about Star Trek: Resurgence, Star Wars Eclipse, a new Wonder Woman game, Alan Wake 2, and Among Us VR. The post New Star Trek, Star Wars, and Wonder Woman games, Alan Wake 2, & Among Us VR – 2021-12-13 appeared first on The Geek Generation.
Nesta segunda-feira (6/12), às 20h, mais um episódio inédito e ao vivo do programa Economia É Fácil, o economista Almir Cezar Filho e seus convidados, aqui nas plataformas da Web Rádio Censura Livre, debatendo os temas econômicos mais importantes do momento, em linguagem fácil e na ótica dos trabalhadores.
The boys discuss their favorite superheroes, Star Wars, and Star Trek. Plus, reboots and why they fail.
Welcome to the Instant Trivia podcast episode 259, where we ask the best trivia on the Internet. Round 1. Category: Ballet In The '90s 1: Of Jerome Robbins' ballet based on this musical, New York Magazine quipped, "When you're a Jete...". West Side Story. 2: Matthew Bourne set his innovative new production of "Cinderella" in this city during the Blitz. London. 3: We hope the Artist Formerly Known As this saw "Billboards", a rock ballet danced to his music. Prince. 4: The 18 vampire brides in the Houston Ballet's show about this count could be called the corpse de ballet. Count Dracula. 5: In just 2 months in 1993 the NYCB presented 73 works by this late Russian-American choreographer. George Balanchine. Round 2. Category: Celebrity Hodgepodge 1: Verna Felton was the voice of the nice fairy godmother in "Cinderella" and the mean Queen of Hearts in this film. Alice in Wonderland. 2: This aunt of George Clooney divorced Jose Ferrer the same day Dinah Shore divorced George Montgomery. Rosemary Clooney. 3: Kenneth Branagh was born in this capital of Northern Ireland in 1960. Belfast. 4: This Roy Rogers co-star once stunned his fans by entering a NYC hotel lobby and signing the register himself. Trigger. 5: No wonder Kiri Te Kanawa became an opera singer; she's a descendant of this noted partner of W.S. Gilbert. Arthur Sullivan. Round 3. Category: Star Trek, Star Wars Or Lord Of The Rings 1: A council that takes place at Rivendell is central to its plot. Lord of the Rings. 2: In its lore, a Bajoran wormhole leads to the Gamma Quadrant. Star Trek. 3: This one lent its name to a defensive weapons system that many felt was a pie-in-the-sky fantasy. Star Wars. 4: A race called the Andorians causes trouble for the humans in this one. Star Trek. 5: Its creator was born in South Africa. Lord of the Rings. Round 4. Category: The Quotable Franklin 1: "In the world nothing is certain but" these 2 things. Death and Taxes. 2: These "fell great oaks". Little Srokes. 3: Completes his line on the death of Georgiana Shipley's squirrel, "Here Skugg lies snug...". As a bug in a rug. 4: "They are so grateful" was his 8th and last reason for preferring this type of mistress. Older Women. 5: Completes his maxim, "Some are weather-wise...". "Some are other-wise". Round 5. Category: Universal Studios Islands Of Adventure 1: If you like 3-D action, you'll love the amazing adventures of this webslinger. Spider-Man. 2: Sam-I-Am knows Universal has a cafe named for this "colorful" title breakfast. "Green Eggs and Ham". 3: A T-rex attacks just before you take an 85-foot plunge on the ride named for this 1993 film. Jurassic Park. 4: Seuss Landing is home to a rollicking ride named for this famous feline. The Cat in the Hat. 5: On Marvel's Superhero Island you may turn green when you ride the roller coaster named for him. The Incredible Hulk. Thanks for listening! Come back tomorrow for more exciting trivia!
Greg's buddy Allan joins us to debate 'Star Trek v Star Wars'. We talk through canon, characters, story, and impact, as well as which fans are crazier! (well, we don't go that far, but at least what the difference is...) Music by Charles Michel from Pixabay
This week on OPP we deep dive into the yet another difference between Star Trek & Star Wars. We will be going through the creators differences in the franchises as well as what message they were trying to convey! It all comes down to The Force vs. Science! Once and all proving that these two franchises not only have different genres, but different foundations as well!
Greetings in love, light, and wisdom as one. The podcast for December is a compilation of two sessions where one session had to be cut short due to a work schedule and the second was just a half a session to fill in the rest. Because of that, we get two great discussions with both Omal and Karra. In a first for the archives, we have the honor to hear from Teene finally and it is well worth the wait. Teene is the mother of Treeny and the two of them often serve as technicians for our little group when they meet on the base to speak to us. Teene is our main technician and she is normally only known for letting know when there is a technical problem on the base's side. We get a real conversation this time that is substantive and educational. Speaking of updates, Alana updates us on the status of the pod of earth dolphins who had volunteered to come to a higher dimension and interact with the pod of Sirian dolphins in Dolphin Lake. Her and I located a pod off the California coast in one of the base's ships and was able to ask if they wanted the opportunity a while back. So far the merging of species was going well. Two more items of notes before going into a more detailed summary are that the sound isn't of the highest quality as has been achieved recently but two recording engineers did the best with what they had. The second item of note is that the editorial from both Karra and I this month is closely tied to our discussion on death that took place in the session with both Omal and Karra, though it wasn't planned that way. Somehow it always just seems to work out naturally without any need for our help. Spoiler alert, Karra reveals in her first time speaking on side one of when she sees us as having a similar opportunity as Sirius to ascend as a race. Now onto the detailed session notes. Our ring mistress with her feline ancestry makes a joke about roasting a dog as we get started but that isn't an unusual statement after we've known her this long. We get the good news that the triplet daughters of Mark and herself enjoyed the stuffed salmon which is what was actually served as they are just old enough barely. We don't stay long with Tia as she brings on Omal to get to the serious questions and answers that brought us all together. Our discussion focuses on enlightenment through a deeper connection with the world around us. Then he combines that with the many past lives making up the self who is continuing a path upward in evolution. He very accurately describes my life prior to this one in an example he uses long before I even knew what had taken place in that life as far as my interest in herbs. He then helps me with a revelation on life I get so much more now than I did then with all the experiences to let me grasp the concept properly. He leaves with a "Star Trek"/"Star Wars" remix of an exit line before Tia takes over and we get into a deep theological discussion on the essence of God, or in her case Goddess. She defines the ultimate meta-concert that shows a great insight into that which unites all religions. The definition is not one that takes much time so Karra is set to take her first turn that we would hear of her on the tape. We start our discussion on a future life where her and I would be sharing the same dimension for a change and how she hopes her grandmother would be alive still. With her ability to communicate with those who have passed on, it would be a valuable help. It's a concern for her grandmother's health that we find out that Sirius is about to celebrate their 80,000th year since their ascension, a milestone for any civilization to be able to have that for a history of achievements. Reincarnating over and over on a higher dimension brings up the subject of Miranda, the daughter of Alana and I. She is the reincarnation of Kiri and Karra's mother who died while sacrificing herself to save the crew and passengers of the transport that developed critical problems. Much the same happens when we reincarnate as soul groups tend to stay together. We end with a valuable history lesson of the ascension of Sirius and how it led to the colonization of Atlantis that was to follow. Kiri comes on after her sister and, while we do get in a little political discussion, it is cut short as Alana is suddenly in the channeling field along with Kiri. Hearing Alana, I deliver the news I had for her about the dolphins on the base which gives Alana the floor from there on until the end of the side happens shortly thereafter. For full transcripts of this session and more information about Hades Base and the 6th dimension, please visit our website: http://hadesbasenews.com The sessions lasted from 1992 to 2001 with this one being taped on 09/26/1995 & 09/08/1998. Side one includes: 1.)(2:35)- Omal stresses the importance of being in tune with yourself and your surroundings in a life of enlightenment and how past lives are ways to advance the lessons we've already learned in prior lives. 2.)(19:25)- Tia points out the goal post those who are looking to advance consciously as being part of the ultimate meta-concert without a physical form creating the ultimate creation. 3.)(23:52)- Karra and I discuss my eventual death and hopeful rebirth into a higher dimension with her as well as her mother's reincarnation. We then learn it's been 80,000 years since the ascension of Sirius. 4.)(00:00)- Alana and Kiri share Mark's vocal cords as they both are within the channeling field. Alana eventually establishes control and gets the short amount of tape left to the end of the side.
Mary L. Trump is an American psychologist, businessperson and author. She is a niece of President Donald J. Trump. Her book “Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man” sold one million copies ON THE FIRST DAY. We talk to Mary about her racist uncle Donald, her favorite version of Star Trek, who Donald would be in Star Trek / Star Wars, the upcoming election, and so much more. Finally, God delivers your New Commandment of the week: “Thou Shalt Vote Out Mary's Racist Uncle.”------------------- Sign up for our weekly newsletter at: https://thegodpodcast.com/#sign-up-news Follow God on all social media platforms: https://kite.link/thegodpod We hope you enjoyed this free episode. Did you know we actually create TWO episodes per week? It's true! Every other episode of The God Pod is posted exclusively for our supporters on Patreon. In addition to getting an email with both of our episodes each week, you'll also unlock our entire back catalogue and gain access to our private chat server. Join today at: https://www.patreon.com/thegodpod
Today on Dayspring Discussions: STAR TREK: Star Trek Day was last week, and I share how I celebrated. Also, I become curious about the upcoming series, Strange New Worlds, after watching the original Star Trek pilot episode. STAR WARS: Ewan McGregor shares details about the Obi-Wan series as far as shooting schedule and length of the series. But he also shares his thoughts on the prequels, and I share how history is repeating itself. SUPERMAN: I finally sat down and finished the newest animated film, Man of Tomorrow, thanks to DC Fandome. Also, Superman and Lois has got me excited to see a Superman TV series step out of the status quo.
I finally got a comic book writer! Jesse Snider has written for Marvel Comics (among others), and engages in a long conversation with Dr. Steve about the process of writing for a specific mythology. Whether it’s Star Trek/Star Wars, Super Heroes, or Disney Characters, each has a back-story and an arc. Unfortunately, he feels this art form is not being properly serviced these days – and his position is fascinating! Buckle in and listen as Jesse lays it all out, and discusses his experiences in the field!
more with Rob including our obligatory chats about Star Trek Star Wars and comics
In this episode, James and Jerry compare the two biggest sci-fi franchises in the known galaxy: Star Wars and Star Trek and talk about what they love (and what they hate) about each. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nerdomandknowledge/support
The 1980s sci-fi documentary In Search of Tomorrow is raising funds on Kickstarter, Star Trek producer Kirk Thatcher reveals a previously unknown Star Wars Easter egg in The Voyage Home, and I'm taking a look back at this week in Trek history! Support Daily Star Trek News on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dailystartreknews Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Google Podcasts For more great Star Trek podcasts: https://podcasts.roddenberry.com Website: https://www.dailystartreknews.com Email: info@dailystartreknews.com Facebook, Twitter and Instagram: @dailytreknews
The 1980s sci-fi documentary In Search of Tomorrow is raising funds on Kickstarter, Star Trek producer Kirk Thatcher reveals a previously unknown Star Wars Easter egg in The Voyage Home, and I’m taking a look back at this week in Trek history! Support Daily Star Trek News on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dailystartreknews Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Google Podcasts For more great Star Trek podcasts: https://podcasts.roddenberry.com Website: https://www.dailystartreknews.com Email: info@dailystartreknews.com Facebook, Twitter and Instagram: @dailytreknews
Welcome to our segment called 'People of Science' where we breakdown the common misconception of what someone in 'science' is like. This time we're going into science-fiction, which plays a MAJOR role in telling the story of science to the masses. It's also a huge factor in why so many people get into science. I know it was for me... This week it was an honor to have Mick from theSceneSnobs.com on the show to discuss his passion for space and science fiction. We talked about his origins on what got him into podcasting, and of course we dove DEEP into sci-fi classics like Star Trek, Star Wars, and our thoughts on the new 'Picard' series that just wrapped up Season 1. FYI there are a lot of spoilers in the second half of this episode, but it was a great talk and I hope you enjoy! In life we make connections with people (more so in a life without pandemic) and I am very happy that I met Mary the Mommy on the NASAsocial trip for CRS-19. Which also lead to me meeting and talking to Mick. While quarantine and coronavirus lockdown is upon us - make the most of it! We're taking our own advice/medicine here on the podcast. And I'm very glad I did. Look forward to more of these while (at the moment) we will be in quarantine for the entirety of April. It may not be face to face, but its human connection.
Andrew watches old cartoons based upon the venerable STAR TREK & STAR WARS franchises. First up, STAR WARS DROIDS, the adventures of C3P0 and R2D2 inbetween the movies. Then an episdoe of E E E E EWOKS, before concluding with the STAR TREK ANIMATED Episode, YESTERYEAR. Which holds up best? The answer will shock you!Feedback for this show can be sent to: heykidscomics@virginmedia.com
Andrew watches old cartoons based upon the venerable STAR TREK & STAR WARS franchises. First up, STAR WARS DROIDS, the adventures of C3P0 and R2D2 inbetween the movies. Then an episdoe of E E E E EWOKS, before concluding with the STAR TREK ANIMATED Episode, YESTERYEAR. Which holds up best? The answer will shock you!Feedback for this show can be sent to: heykidscomics@virginmedia.com
Andrew watches old cartoons based upon the venerable STAR TREK & STAR WARS franchises. First up, STAR WARS DROIDS, the adventures of C3P0 and R2D2 inbetween the movies. Then an episdoe of E E E E EWOKS, before concluding with the STAR TREK ANIMATED Episode, YESTERYEAR. Which holds up best? The answer will shock you!Feedback for this show can be sent to: heykidscomics@virginmedia.com
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Willkommen zur 4. Folge von Movietopia, heute geht es um die aktuellen Filmnews, die Herr der Ringe Serie auf Amazon und natürlich den Star Wars Talk in dem wir am Ende auf den Mandalorianer Folge 4 eingehen. Spezial Gast heute: Rainer. Möge die Macht mit euch sein! Ralf & DeSade Ralf Schulz: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/blumentopfverteiler Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/darthschulz/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/209645039775867/ DeSade Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/desadefanchannel Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/desadesick/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/DIMSceneMusic/
I said I would move the Star Trek / Star Wars discussion to the end of the episode…I lied (well, really just fibbed) – I left it where it was (you can skip it if you skip over about 5 minutes from when it starts if you want to just jump past it). #TheAntsGoMarching Haiku: […]
I said I would move the Star Trek / Star Wars discussion to the end of the episode…I lied (well, really just fibbed) – I left it where it was (you can skip it if you skip over about 5 minutes from when it starts if you want to just jump past it). #TheAntsGoMarching Haiku: […]
Multiverse Tonight - The Podcast about All Your Geeky Universes
Thomas takes a look at new from DC, Marvel, Star Trek Star Wars and more. In this episode, Thomas looks at an inflatable Han Solo in Carbonite, why there will be no Solo 2, The Short Treks before Discovery is back, Henry Cavill flys away, The Martian Manhunter returns to manhunting, The Fantastic Four return to Comics and much much more!Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/multiverse)
Episode 9 is simple, as the guys rave about all that JJ Abrams has done in saving the Mission Impossible series, resurrecting Star Trek/Star Wars, and his original work as well. They also talk about times they have had "fanboy" moments with some big time celebrities. This is unscripted, real conversation. This is what happens off the air. This is Off the Record. 0:38 - Jon and Tim recap the TV and sports they watched Thursday night, including Training Days: Rolling with the Tide on ESPN. 8:55 - Tim continues to watch all the Mission Impossible movies, and both Jon and Tim rave about JJ Abrams as being one of the greatest directors/producers/writers of all-time. 23:47 - Our "AJ Question of the Day": **Have you ever had a "fanboy" moment where you met someone you really admired or liked (celebrity or other), and who was it?** Jon talks about meeting Bill Clinton and Tim about meeting Dirk Nowitzki. Today's intro song is "Ain't No Rest For The Wicked" by Cage the Elephant.
FULL NOTES AND LINKS, HERE! http://johnnycirucci.com/resistance-rising-181/ * Star Trek / Star Wars: the Jews, Jesuits and sexual deviants behind our “outer-space reality”. * Pope Francis asks his “friends” to adore Saint Junipero Serra in the “Capitol”. * WE GOT ANOTHER ONE: Jeanette Epps—black, female and Jesuit-trained CIA analyst who almost became an astro-not. * Epps is yet another NASA twin! And her sister is ALSO Jesuit-trained. * Astro-nots give Francis his space-cape. * Who is...or, rather, WAS, Roberto Calvi? * Slain ex-KGB Spy Accused Putin of Pedophilia 4 Months Before Poisoning * Murdered Spy Claimed Putin Was Caught on Film Having Sex With Boys * Why is “waterboarding” so well-known as a torture technique? * Are modern wars just extensions of the Crusades? * Edmond Safra: dead Lebanese Jewish Brazilian bankers tell no tails. * How to tell a false flag: they never do any harm to the supposed target! * How the Roman Pedocracy gets you to stick your neck out in case they ever want to chop your head off. * The OSS/CIA sucker-punch of betrayal and treason. * Rome is equal-opportunity in treachery: the Great Harlot seems to take pleasure in betraying her own! * The Roman Catholic Church: lawless criminals in plain sight. * Jesuit-trained female Director of “Homeland Security” admits 50,000 illegals/month (you can bet it’s worse). * How about pedophile priests? Can we trust THOSE numbers? * Johnny’s SHOCKING material on the treason of apparatchik Jamie Gorelick: * Proof that Donald Trump is a fraud on closing the borders. * Stumped for good PsyOps: phony ape “ancestor” named after Beatles song.
With Corndog Joe in sick bay due to an unfortunate incident with a food replicator, Josh and Bones wish Captain James T. Kirk a happy birthday! Hear about all things Star Trek! Also, the ongoing Star Trek/Star Wars debate is finally settled!
Rundown: Another excuse for Chris to talk to his favorite living critic, Jeff Bond and do a deep dive into his new book, The Art of Star Trek: The Kelvin Timeline. Or at least that’s where this started. When Seth McFarland revealed Jeff’s book on McFarland new show, The Oroville, I thought I’d pepper in a few questions. Then Jeff revealed he wrote a very thoughtful piece for the 40th anniversary Vinyl Record Edition of John Williams’ Star Wars score. That’s out now as well. Then there are his liner notes for the new edition of Burt Bacharach’s 1960s James Bond parody Casino Royale soundtrack. That’s famous for The Look of Love. But we start with the nutty Star Trek/Quentin Tarantino news... Amazon links ...to Jeff's Kelvin Timeline book: https://www.amazon.com/Art-Star-Trek-Kelvin-Timeline/dp/1785655841 ...to Jeff's Orville book https://www.amazon.com/World-Orville-Jeff-Bond/dp/1785657615 ...to the 40th anniversary Vinyl Record Edition of John Williams’ Star Wars score https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Hope-Death-Hologram/dp/B07685195W Find The Dorking Out Show here...Dorking Out Show Bloghttp://dorkingoutshow.com/ Dorking Out Show Twitterhttps://twitter.com/dorkingoutshow Dorking Out Show YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3ufLeNHiA59ANCMPlAdAOQ Dorking Out Show Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/dorkingoutshow Dorking Out Show Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/DorkingOutShow Sonia’s Twitterhttps://twitter.com/TheSoniaShow The Sonia Show Bloghttp://www.thesoniashow.com/ The Sonia Show Facebook Pagehttps://www.facebook.com/TheSoniaShow Chris’ Twitter:https://twitter.com/JettJergens The Jett Jergens Bloghttps://jettjergens.com/ Jett Jergens Facebook Pagehttps://www.facebook.com/JettJergens/
On the December 5, 2017 episode of /Film Daily, Peter Sciretta is joined by /Film senior writer Ben Pearson and /Film writer Chris Evangelista to discuss the latest news, including Bryan Singer's firing, Quentin Tarantino's Star Trek movie, Rian Johnson's new Star Wars trilogy,, Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom plot details and Marvel announces a Podcast Universe. And in Our Feature Presentation, we'll take a look at Sight and Sound's Best films of 2017 list and ask the question: when do television productions qualify for best of the year movie lists? You can subscribe to /Film Daily on iTunes, Google Play, Overcast and all the popular podcast apps (here is the RSS URL if you need it). In the News: Bryan Singer Fired from Queen Biopic Due to On-Set Drama. Bryan Singer Responds to His ‘Bohemian Rhapsody' Firing as His Production Company Leaves the Fox Lot Quentin Tarantino Star Trek Movie In The Works, And We're Not Making This Up The New ‘Star Wars' Trilogy From Rian Johnson Won't Be The Old Republic Cinemark's MoviePass Competitor Membership Program is Laughable ‘Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom' Reveals New Image and Plot Details Marvel is Launching a Wolverine Podcast in 2018, Teases An MPU (Marvel Podcast Universe) In Our Feature Presentation: Chris - Sight and Sound's Best Films of 2017 List Inexplicably Includes ‘Twin Peaks' Should television productions qualify for best of the year movie lists? Are there specific examples: limited series, docuseries...etc. Should Making A Murderer or OJ: Made in America be considered movies? Should best of the year movie lists expand to include tv shows? Or should we continue to classify the mediums separately? How do we qualify direct to netflix movies? You can find more about all the stories we mentioned on today's show at slashfilm.com. /Film Daily is published every weekday, bringing you the most exciting news from the world of movies and television as well as deeper dives into the great features from slashfilm.com. You can subscribe to /Film Daily on iTunes, Google Play, Overcast and all the popular podcast apps (RSS). We're still very much experimenting with this podcast, please feel free to send your feedback to us at peter@slashfilm.com. Please rate and review the podcast on iTunes and spread the word! Thanks to Sam Hume for our logo.
Steve Megatron is flying solo as he talks Mental health, Mass Effect Andromeda, Nintendo Switch and Parental Controls, Star Trek Discovery, Star Wars The Last Jedi Snoke, and Verizon Charter merger talks.Project: Altered Geek is a new endeavor by Steve "Megatron" to flesh out the current run of the podcast and evolve it. This version of the show will focus on broader topics and be a soapbox of ways we're altering our geekdom. Your Geek Question for the WeekWhat would you like me to do a top 10 list of?What's something I've never covered which you'd like?We hope you continue to enjoy the episodes and please feel free to respond to any and all feedback methods. We will read and reply on the show. Topic suggestions also welcome. So get Altered, Get Geeky with the Altered Geeks.Contact: E-mail | Twitter | Facebook | RSS FeedTo see more from Steve "Megatron" Phillips, stay tuned into "Project: Altered Geek" and watch "Altered Geek" weekly or anytime on-demand on AlteredGeek.com and Blogtalkradio.
Some of our listeners would suspect the Regular Joe's exclusively watch movies and TV shows with spaceships and aliens etc. but occasionally, we do take time out to enjoy something more cerebral, like a documentary about, spaceships and aliens etc. This week Dave (reputed to be the biggest Star Wars fan in the group) suggested Elstree 1976 (2015), by director Jon Spira, about extras and bit players in the early Star Wars films. Tod (in contention with Dave as the biggest Star Trek fan) suggested, For the love of Spock (2016) by Adam Nimoy, which addresses both the cultural significance of the character made famous by his father, actor Leonard Nimoy, and an intimate look at the life of the man himself. In an increasingly rare case of trilateral agreement, all three had similar takes on the two productions. One very good, one not so much. One certainly worth watching, the other . . . well you get the idea. If it's possible to spoil a documentary, then there are SPOILERS. This episode also contains a protracted discussion on what constitutes a "Jedi" and a round of Star Trek/Star Wars themed Random Topics interrupted only by Barry's desire to talk about another film that won't be made anyway. Thanks for Listening!
It's a battle as old as time: Star Trek vs. Star Wars. As long as time is a couple decades old. This episode has been painstakingly cut from the BMB! 6 discussion and presented as a new episode in a desperate attempt to make the length of BMB! 6 shorter while also making an entirely new episode. Yes, it’s desperate. No, it’s not funny. No, there isn’t any Star Trek or Star Wars footage but it’s short and provides insight as to how Phoenix and Brent feel about the whole Star Trek / Star Wars thing. Which will win? Does it matter? Find out!
I am joined by Stephanie aka Jedi Moon from California to wrap up the last of the 2016 episodes. Stephanie and I cover a variety of fandoms. We first start off with Star Trek and its early influences on Stephanie. Find out who her favorite Captain is, along with the shows she enjoys. We then bounce to the other famous Star series - Star Wars. Favorite movies and characters and what's coming up (recorded before Rogue One came out). As well as how she got the name Jedi Moon. Which transitions into talking about the Sailor Moon series. We have a big discussion about Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit series and their influences on our childhood. Stephanie talks about how she got into cosplay, her variety of costumes and more. She also recommends a book series called the Borderland Series, created by Terri Windling. You can find Stephanie at: https://www.facebook.com/Jedimoon/ https://www.facebook.com/triforce.babes/ https://www.instagram.com/jedi.moon/
J. Appletini joins us as yet another guest from Vancouver, Canada for Tales from the Fandom's 27th episode. We talk about how she first got into fandom before talking about two of her biggest fandom loves: Star Trek and Star Wars. We cover a wide range of topics including favorite characters, shows, movies and more. We talk about the upcoming new Star Trek show Discovery, along with Star Wars: The Force Awakens and the upcoming Rogue One. We then discuss her toy collecting. What she collects, how much room she devotes to it and more. She tosses out a few comic book suggestions that aren't DC or Marvel before we talk about how she got into Cosplay. She talks about her first experiences with it, her favorite and most well known costumes and more. You can find J. Appletini at: https://www.facebook.com/j.appletini/ https://www.instagram.com/j.appletini/
Eine ungewöhnliche Uhrzeit für die Veröffentlichung einer Podcast Folge. Hat aber den einfachen Grund, dass am Samstag bereits die erste Episode unseres Filmexe 2.0 Podcasts zum Thema „Western“ erscheint, die wir heute früh aufgenommen haben! Hier gibt es also den zweiten Part zum Thema Franchises, unter anderem mit Star Trek, Star Wars, Guardians of the... Weiterlesen
Volvimos! En un capitulo completamente redondo hablamos esta semana de The Killing Joke, Star Wars, Star Trek, Suicide Squad, Ghostbusters y un analisis a la situacion de la venta de comics actual donde les contamos algunos detalles de los porques de la venta de comics de los ultimos dos meses. Bienvenidos a Cabeza de Nerd
In this episode of filler we go from talking about Star Trek/Star Wars but end up finding out where Lucas and Abrams touched Jack! ~~ And don't forget to email us feedback at VinnlandOldTimeRadio@Gmail.com ! ~~
Gravity, directed by Alfonso Cuaron, steps away from the Star Trek / Star Wars type outer space film we’ve…
Episode 30 of POVWeekly has been released! In tonight’s episode, we discuss racist board games, have a Star Trek/Star Wars trivia faceoff, and I dive headfirst into a closet. In preparation for the first game of The Aurors in our … Continue reading →
[display_podcast] We’re back in the saddle again here on TWiG! Mike and Steve sit down and discuss JJ Abraham’s Star Trek & Star Wars jumps as well as the failures of Sci-Fi today. Listen in as we have a free flowing discussion about our memories and future of the Sci-Fi world. We’ll be back next …
Welcome to this Science Fiction Desert menu. Miles discusses Shatner's, Riker's, and Singer's failed attempts to bring Star Trek back to small screen. He talks about why it failed and wants to know if you want to see it back on the small screen? If so in what capacity and in what universe? What do you get when you mix a young girl and Jedi training camp with a dash of Darth Vader? An girl who turns to the dark side. They do after all have more cookies. 8-) And Wonder Woman just can't seem to make it out of her wardrobe malfunction. The short shorts are back. The fans win out. But are you happy about it? Do you care? Or do you think it doesn't matter since the show will never make it past pilot? Miles shares his thoughts on the whole matter. The web series Mortal Kombat is now live. Jeri Ryan and Tahmoh Penekett are starring in it. Michael White from Sucker Punch is in it and Darren from Sanctuary is in it as well. Bradley Cooper has signed on to play The Crow in a remaining of the original movie. Filming is slated to start later this year. Do you think The Crow should be remade? Or does the original not need a reboot? After all Brandon Lee was awesome. The sequels that followed were another matter.
Welcome to this Science Fiction Desert menu. Miles discusses Shatner's, Riker's, and Singer's failed attempts to bring Star Trek back to small screen. He talks about why it failed and wants to know if you want to see it back on the small screen? If so in what capacity and in what universe? What do you get when you mix a young girl and Jedi training camp with a dash of Darth Vader? An girl who turns to the dark side. They do after all have more cookies. 8-) And Wonder Woman just can't seem to make it out of her wardrobe malfunction. The short shorts are back. The fans win out. But are you happy about it? Do you care? Or do you think it doesn't matter since the show will never make it past pilot? Miles shares his thoughts on the whole matter. The web series Mortal Kombat is now live. Jeri Ryan and Tahmoh Penekett are starring in it. Michael White from Sucker Punch is in it and Darren from Sanctuary is in it as well. Bradley Cooper has signed on to play The Crow in a remaining of the original movie. Filming is slated to start later this year. Do you think The Crow should be remade? Or does the original not need a reboot? After all Brandon Lee was awesome. The sequels that followed were another matter.
(French & English) --> Quatrième épisode... J'avais promis un nouveau mix, mais hélas, le temps me fait encore défaut. Néanmoins, il est en cours... Spécifiquement pour Noizecast ! En attendant, je me disais que vous vous rattraperiez sur mon autre podcast "Le Nid de l'Insecte" qui est le podcast de l'émission que je fais tous les dimanche soirs sur une radio locale. Je vous conseille d'ailleurs d'aller y faire un tour... http://noizecast.free.fr/nid/ ----- Revenons au mix que je vous propose pour cette fois. A nouveau, il date de 1999, durant les soirées mythiques du sud de la France, les Millenium Ex Mortis ! Celle qui fut organisé le soir où ce mix eu lieu était orienté sur Star Trek / Star Wars. Il manque aussi de précision technique, comparés à ceux de 2001... et, évidemment, il n'est qu'une ébauche de ceux que je fais maintenant.-----Pour le prochain épisode, il devrait y avoir donc le mix que je suis en train de préparer actuellement. D'ici là, n'hésitez pas à visiter le podcast du nid de l'insecte ! Et à poster sur mon blog => http://noizecast.free.fr/noizecast/ ou encore à me contacter directement si vous avez des commentaires, des propositions, etc... => insext@free.fr----- ----- Fourth Move: short retreat for a better strike back ! I said I'll make a new mix, just for Noizecast, but unfortunatly, time is missing, again. Anyway, it's in progress ! It will be only for Noizecast ! Since that, if you don't mind my french blah-blah, you can turn your ears to my other podcast "Le Nid de l'Insecte" which is the podcast from my radio program, every sunday evening on a local radio. If you want to hear a piece: http://noizecast.free.fr/nid/ Of course you can register yourself on it via the iTunes Music Store.----- About the mix for this ttime, once again, it's a 1999 one, during the MxM parties in south of France. This mix was designed to be during a MxM special edition, about Star Trek and Star Wars. The technical thing is not very good, once more, compared to 2k1 ones... and of course, compared to the ones I make right now !-----About next episode, you will have the mix I'm designing at the moment. Since that, you can use your ears with "Le Nid de l'Insecte", post on my blog => http://noizecast.free.fr/noizecast/ or mail me for comments, propositions, remixes, etc... => insext@free.fr----- To download / Pour télécharger NoizeCast#4 -----In Noize We Trust ... ... And Sex We Do ! (-;