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Babylon 5 For the First Time - Not a Star Trek Podcast
The War Prayer | For the Second Time

Babylon 5 For the First Time - Not a Star Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2025 57:31 Transcription Available


Send us a textJoin veteran Star Trek, and now Babylon 5 podcasters, Brent Allen and Jeff Akin as they dive into Babylon 5 for a second time! They revisit each episode with fresh insights and deeper analysis, reflecting on their first-time reactions. Perfect for First Ones and people new to the series, this journey offers a deeper connection to the world of Babylon 5!The first time we watched this we loved DC Fontana's involvement. Do we feel any differently this time? Join us as we reflect on Home Guard and all the things we thought it would be.  This show is produced in association with the Akin Collective, Mulberry Entertainment, and Framed Games. Find out how you can support the show and get great bonus content like access to notes, a Discord server, unedited reaction videos, and more: https://www.patreon.com/babylon5firstSpecial Thanks to all who support our show through Patreon, including: Executive Producers:AndrewBecky SparksCalinicusClubPro70Colin 3of5Colin BlairDemi-DWFabio KaseckerFrankieGregory ChristJack Kitchenjal'ZhaJames OkeefeJeffrey HayesJoel TownsendJoey PomeroykatKaterina KalinevichKenny A KaryadiMartin SvendsenMatt IonMattie GarciaMr KrosisNeil MooreNia is framedPeter SchullerRob BentRon HSarah LSlartibartfastSnatcher42Starfury 5470Stuart98Suzanne EggTrekkieTreyTheTrekkerProducers:David BlauGuy KovelJohn Koniges Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badnerdsftft/Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/badnerds.bsky.socialhttps://www.babylon5first.com/All rights belong to the Prime Time Entertainment Network, WBTV, and TNT. No copyright infringement intended.Copyright Disclaimer, Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for 'fair use' for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use.Visit https://www.patreon.com/babylon5first to join the Babylon 5 For the First Time Patreon. Support the show

Out of Contreks
Ep. 142: "Yesteryear" (TAS S1E2) with That's Not How Science Works

Out of Contreks

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2024 78:57


Sorry for the late-night post, folks. Ryan just got back from Gen Con. In today's episode, Ryan and Brady are joined by frequent guests Caitlin and Nicole of That's Not How Science Works to discuss the consensus choice for the best entry of Star Trek: The Animated Series. Join us as we discuss good animation vs. "good" animation, DC Fontana knowing her stuff, and Ryan crying while watching this decades-old cartoon for children.

The Best Pick movie podcast
BP311 This Side of Paradise with Garrett Millerick

The Best Pick movie podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2024 44:24


Best Pick with Tom Salinsky and special guest Garrett Millerick Episode 311. Star Trek (TOS): This Side of Paradise Released 24 April 2024 “This Side of Paradise” is the 24th episode of the first season of Star Trek, first shown on 2 March 1967. It was written by Jerry Sohl and DC Fontana and directed by Ralph Senensky. Star Trek theme with lyrics https://youtu.be/x8UlFN0kNq4 Variety list of best Star Trek episodes https://variety.com/lists/best-star-trek-episodes/ Continuing our short season of episodes looking at Star Trek, to promote Tom's new book Star Trek Discovering the TV Series, which is out now from all the usual places, including… From the publisher https://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/Star-Trek-Discovering-the-TV-Series-Hardback/p/49373 UK Amazon https://amzn.to/3IG5N9L US Amazon https://a.co/d/27aO9tZ UK bookstore https://www.waterstones.com/book/star-trek-discovering-the-tv-series/tom-salinsky/9781399035040 US bookstore https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/star-trek-tom-salinsky/1144095002?ean=9781399035040 To send in your questions, comments, thoughts and ideas, you can join our Facebook group, Tweet us on @bestpickpod or email us on bestpickpod@gmail.com. You can also Tweet us individually, @TomSalinsky or @millerickcomedy. You can also visit our website at https://bestpickpod.com and sign up to our mailing list to get notified as soon as a new episode is released. Just follow this link: http://eepurl.com/dbHO3n.

The Jacked Up Review Show Podcast
Star Trekking Week: Showcase on Classic Star Trek Writers DC Fontana, Harlan Ellison & Gene L. Coon (with superfan Jim Ho!)

The Jacked Up Review Show Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2024 49:31


Superfan Jim Ho returns once more and this time, we're doing a tribute to key Star Trek writers DC Fontana, Harlan Ellison & Gene L. Coon, listing their other credits & praising their endless storytelling abilities!                           MAIN LINKS:  LinkTree: ⁠https://linktr.ee/JURSPodcast⁠ Facebook Page: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/JackedUpReviewShow/⁠ Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/2452329545040913⁠ Twitter:⁠ https://twitter.com/JackedUpReview ⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jacked_up_podcast/ ⁠         SHOW LINKS: YouTube: ⁠https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCIyMawFPgvOpOUhKcQo4eQQ⁠   iHeartRadio: ⁠https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-jacked-up-review-show-59422651/⁠   Podbean: ⁠https://jackedupreviewshow.podbean.com⁠   Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/7Eg8w0DNympD6SQXSj1X3M⁠   Apple Podcasts: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jacked-up-review-show-podcast/id1494236218⁠   RadioPublic: ⁠https://radiopublic.com/the-jacked-up-review-show-We4VjE⁠   Overcast: ⁠https://overcast.fm/itunes1494236218/the-jacked-up-review-show-podcast⁠   Google Podcasts: ⁠https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy9hNDYyOTdjL3BvZGNhc3QvcnNz⁠   Anchor:  ⁠https://anchor.fm/s/a46297c/podcast/rss⁠   PocketCasts: ⁠https://pca.st/0ncd5qp4⁠   CastBox:  ⁠https://castbox.fm/channel/The-Jacked-Up-Review-Show-Podcast-id2591222⁠   Discord:  ⁠https://discord.com/channels/796154005914779678/796154006358851586⁠         #MovieReview #FilmTwitter #PodFamily #PodcastersOfInstagram #Movies #Film #Cinema #Music #Reviews #Retrospect #Podcasts #MutantFam #MutantFamily #actionmystery #bmovies #scifihorror #truecrime #historydramas #warmovies #podcastcollabs #hottakes #edgy #cultmovies #nsfw #HorrorFam #badass             

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Trek Wars
Butt Talk with Kenny

Trek Wars

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2023 67:18


Journey to Babel (Star Trek: TOS) vs. Gone With The Mimphs / The First Apprentice (Star Wars: Ewoks)The word "iconic" gets thrown liberally. We talk about Linda Woolverton and D.C. Fontana. Kenny talks about Spock as a reflection of post-WWII masculinity. Aspen talks about how amazing the Mimphs are. And we get silly.__________________________Get early, extended episodes on our Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/trekwarspodTheme by Tosin AwofesoSocial Media:https://www.instagram.com/trekwarspodhttps://bsky.app/profile/trekwarspod.bsky.socialWant to ask us questions? Email us at trekwarspod@gmail.com .And leave us a review! https://bit.ly/leave-a-review-trek-wars

Trek, Marry, Kill
TAS: "Beyond the Farthest Star" & "Yesteryear" (s1e1-2) with Laurie Ulster from TrekMovie.com

Trek, Marry, Kill

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2023 94:06


THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY of the debut of The Animated Series more or less coincides with Trek Marry Kill's 1ST ANNIVERSARY, and so to celebrate both, Bryan has decided to remove this podcast's original sin of holding the animated shows off to the side by fully embracing them with the first of what will be monthly special episodes dedicated to animated episodes. Joining him for the first special episode is Laurie Ulster of TrekMovie.com, who hosts the All Access Podcast on that network. She also copy edited Star Trek: The Official Guide to the Animated Series, an awesome reference guide for this Emmy-nominated Saturday morning cartoon that's not "just" a cartoon -- it's animated Star Trek!This month, the first two episodes of the series. One written by the same guy who wrote the first episode of The Original Series and the other written by D.C. Fontana, perhaps the second-most important writer in franchise history after Gene Roddenberry. Hear about Bryan's chance encounter with her back in 2016. The grades begin at (22:15). "Yesteryear" discussion begins at (48:23). This episode features some old promos for which you can see here on YouTube. One of those promos is an old "Keep America Beautiful" PSA. Our theme is "70's Synth Funk Jam" by Phill_Dillow on Pixabay. We also use a snippet from Luis Humanoide from Pixabay's "Space Fleet" during our bridge. If you're liking the show, consider rating us five stars on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.

Madame Perry's Salon
Screenwriter / Author Lynn Barker Visits Mme Perry's Salon

Madame Perry's Salon

Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2023 63:00


Lynn Barker was born in New Mexico, was a college journalism student of famous writer of Navajo mysteries Tony Hillerman and was an associate producer of KRON t.v. news in San Francisco until moving to L.A. where she was Manager for the CBS Network Story Department before writing scripts for the 1980's reboot of "The Twilight Zone". Other Writers Guild of America credits include "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine". Her articles have appeared in "American Cinematographer" and the WGA magazine "Written By:" and she has a story in the "Chicken Soup for the Soul of America" book. Lynn was an MPAA-accredited Hollywood entertainment journalist for several websites. Writing experience also includes show scripts for Disney Imagineering and Universal theme park attractions. She is a script doctor and screenplay consultant. Lynn's latest work is as co-author of "Futurus Rex" a compact, fast-moving Sci-Fi/Fantasy adventure novel written with the late Dorothy (D.C.) Fontana, an iconic writer/story editor on the original “Star Trek” series as well as a New York Times bestselling author. Futurus Rex is available on Amazon.    

FUTURE FOSSILS
201 - KMO & Kevin Wohlmut on our Blue Collar Black Mirror: Star Trek, Star Wars, Blade Runner, Jurassic Park, Adventure Time, ChatGPT, & More

FUTURE FOSSILS

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2023 106:17


This week we talk about the intersections of large language models, the golden age of television and its storytelling mishaps, making one's way through the weirding of the labor economy, and much more with two of my favorite Gen X science fiction aficionados, OG podcaster KMO and our mutual friend Kevin Arthur Wohlmut. In this episode — a standalone continuation to my recent appearance on The KMO Show, we skip like a stone across mentions of every Star Trek series, the collapse of narratives and the social fabric, Westworld HBO, Star Wars Mandalorian vs. Andor vs. Rebels, chatGPT, Blade Runner 2049, Black Mirror, H.P. Lovecraft, the Sheldrake-Abraham-McKenna Trialogues, Charles Stross' Accelerando, Adventure Time, Stanislav Grof's LSD psychotherapy, Francisco Varela, Blake Lemoine's meltdown over Google LaMDA, Integrated Information Theory, biosemiotics, Douglas Hofstadter, Max Tegmarck, Erik Davis, Peter Watts, The Psychedelic Salon, Melanie Mitchell, The Teafaerie, Kevin Kelly, consilience in science, Fight Club, and more…Or, if you prefer, here's a rundown of the episode generated by A.I. c/o my friends at Podium.page:In this episode, I explore an ambitious and well-connected conversation with guests KMO, a seasoned podcaster, and Kevin Walnut [sic], a close friend and supporter of the arts in Santa Fe. We dive deep into their thoughts on the social epistemology crisis, science fiction, deep fakes, and ontology. Additionally, we discuss their opinions on the Star Trek franchise, particularly their critiques of the first two seasons of Star Trek: Picard and Discovery. Through this engaging conversation, we examine the impact of storytelling and the evolution of science fiction in modern culture. We also explore the relationship between identity, media, and artificial intelligence, as well as the ethical implications of creating sentient artificial general intelligence (AGI) and the philosophical questions surrounding AI's impact on society and human existence. Join us for a thought-provoking and in-depth discussion on a variety of topics that will leave you questioning the future of humanity and our relationship with technology.✨ Before we get started, three big announcements!* I am leaving the Santa Fe Institute, in part to write a very ambitious book about technology, art, imagination, and Jurassic Park. You can be a part of the early discussion around this project by joining the Future Fossils Book Club's Jurassic Park live calls — the first of which will be on Saturday, 29 April — open to Substack and Patreon supporters:* Catch me in a Twitter Space with Nxt Museum on Monday 17 April at 11 am PST on a panel discussing “Creative Misuse of Technology” with Minne Atairu, Parag Mital, Caroline Sinders, and hosts Jesse Damiani and Charlotte Kent.* I'm back in Austin this October to play the Astronox Festival at Apache Pass! Check out this amazing lineup on which I appear alongside Juno Reactor, Entheogenic, Goopsteppa, DRRTYWULVZ, and many more great artists!✨ Support Future Fossils:Subscribe anywhere you go for podcastsSubscribe to the podcast PLUS essays, music, and news on Substack or Patreon.Buy my original paintings or commission new work.Buy my music on Bandcamp! (This episode features “A Better Trip” from my recent live album by the same name.)Or if you're into lo-fi audio, follow me and my listening recommendations on Spotify.This conversation continues with lively and respectful interaction every single day in the members-only Future Fossils Facebook Group and Discord server. Join us!Episode cover art by KMO and a whole bouquet of digital image manipulation apps.✨ Tip Jars:@futurefossils on Venmo$manfredmacx on CashAppmichaelgarfield on PayPal✨ Affiliate Links:• These show notes and the transcript were made possible with Podium.Page, a very cool new AI service I'm happy to endorse. Sign up here and get three free hours and 50% off your first month.• BioTech Life Sciences makes anti-aging and performance enhancement formulas that work directly at the level of cellular nutrition, both for ingestion and direct topical application. I'm a firm believer in keeping NAD+ levels up and their skin solution helped me erase a year of pandemic burnout from my face.• Help regulate stress, get better sleep, recover from exercise, and/or stay alert and focused without stimulants, with the Apollo Neuro wearable. I have one and while I don't wear it all the time, when I do it's sober healthy drugs.• Musicians: let me recommend you get yourself a Jamstik Studio, the coolest MIDI guitar I've ever played. I LOVE mine. You can hear it playing all the synths on my song about Jurassic Park.✨ Mentioned Media:KMO Show S01 E01 - 001 - Michael Garfield and Kevin WohlmutAn Edifying Thought on AI by Charles EisensteinIn Defense of Star Trek: Picard & Discovery by Michael GarfieldImprovising Out of Algorithmic Isolation by Michael GarfieldAI and the Transformation of the Human Spirit by Steven Hales(and yes I know it's on Quillette, and no I don't think this automatically disqualifies it)Future Fossils Book Club #1: Blindsight by Peter WattsFF 116 - The Next Ten Billion Years: Ugo Bardi & John Michael Greer as read by Kevin Arthur Wohlmut✨ Related Recent Future Fossils Episodes:FF 198 - Tadaaki Hozumi on Japanese Esotericism, Aliens, Land Spirits, & The Singularity (Part 2)FF 195 - A.I. Art: An Emergency Panel with Julian Picaza, Evo Heyning, Micah Daigle, Jamie Curcio, & Topher SipesFF 187 - Fear & Loathing on the Electronic Frontier with Kevin Welch & David Hensley of EFF-Austin FF 178 - Chris Ryan on Exhuming The Human from Our Eldritch Institutions FF 175 - C. Thi Nguyen on The Seductions of Clarity, Weaponized Games, and Agency as Art ✨ Chapters:0:15:45 - The Substance of Philosophy (58 Seconds)0:24:45 - Complicated TV Narratives and the Internet (104 Seconds)0:30:54 - Humans vs Hosts in Westworld (81 Seconds)0:38:09 - Philosophical Zombies and Artificial Intelligence (89 Seconds)0:43:00 - Popular Franchises Themes (71 Seconds)1:03:27 - Reflections on a Changing Media Landscape (89 Seconds)1:10:45 - The Pathology of Selective Evidence (92 Seconds)1:16:32 - Externalizing Trauma Through Technology (131 Seconds)1:24:51 - From Snow Maker to Thouandsaire (43 Seconds)1:36:48 - The Impact of Boomer Parenting (126 Seconds)✨ Keywords:Social Epistemology, Science Fiction, Deep Fakes, Ontology, Star Trek, Artificial Intelligence, AI Impact, Sentient AGI, Human-Machine Interconnectivity, Consciousness Theory, Westworld, Blade Runner 2049, AI in Economy, AI Companion Chatbots, Unconventional Career Path, AI and Education, AI Content Creation, AI in Media, Turing Test✨ UNEDITED machine-generated transcript generated by podium.page:0:00:00Five four three two one. Go. So it's not like Wayne's world where you say the two and the one silently. Now, Greetings future fossils.0:00:11Welcome to episode two hundred and one of the podcast that explores our place in time I'm your host, Michael Garfield. And this is one of these extra juicy and delicious episodes of the show where I really ratcheted up with our guests and provide you one of these singularity is near kind of ever everything is connected to everything, self organized criticality right at the edge of chaos conversations, deeply embedded in chapel parallel where suddenly the invisible architect picture of our cosmos starts to make itself apparent through the glass bead game of conversation. And I am that I get to share it with you. Our guests this week are KMO, one of the most seasoned and well researched and experienced podcasters that I know. Somebody whose show the Sea Realm was running all the way back in two thousand six, I found him through Eric Davis, who I think most of you know, and I've had on the show a number of times already. And also Kevin Walnut, who is a close friend of mine here in Santa Fe, a just incredible human being, he's probably the strongest single supporter of music that I'm aware of, you know, as far as local scenes are concerned and and supporting people's music online and helping get the word out. He's been instrumental to my family and I am getting ourselves situated here all the way back to when I visited Santa Fe in two thousand eighteen to participate in the Santa Fe Institute's Interplanetary Festival and recorded conversations on that trip John David Ebert and Michael Aaron Cummins. And Ike used so June. About hyper modernity, a two part episode one zero four and one zero five. I highly recommend going back to that, which is really the last time possibly I had a conversation just this incredibly ambitious on the show.0:02:31But first, I want to announce a couple things. One is that I have left the Santa Fe Institute. The other podcast that I have been hosting for them for the last three and a half years, Complexity Podcast, which is substantially more popular in future fossils due to its institutional affiliation is coming to a close, I'm recording one more episode with SFI president David Krakauer next week in which I'm gonna be talking about my upcoming book project. And that episode actually is conjoined with the big announcement that I have for members of the Future Fossil's listening audience and and paid supporters, which is, of course, the Jurassic Park Book Club that starts On April twenty ninth, we're gonna host the first of two video calls where I'm gonna dive deep into the science and philosophy Michael Creighton's most popular work of fiction and its impact on culture and society over the thirty three years since its publication. And then I'm gonna start picking up as many of the podcasts that I had scheduled for complexity and had to cancel upon my departure from SFI. And basically fuse the two shows.0:03:47And I think a lot of you saw this coming. Future fossils is going to level up and become a much more scientific podcast. As I prepare and research the book that I'm writing about Jurassic Park and its legacy and the relationship It has to ILM and SFI and the Institute of Eco Technics. And all of these other visionary projects that sprouted in the eighties and nineties to transition from the analog to the digital the collapse of the boundaries between the real and the virtual, the human and the non human worlds, it's gonna be a very very ambitious book and a very very ambitious book club. And I hope that you will get in there because obviously now I am out in the rain as an independent producer and very much need can benefit from and am deeply grateful for your support for this work in order to make things happen and in order to keep my family fed, get the lights on here with future fossils. So with that, I wanna thank all of the new supporters of the show that have crawled out of the woodwork over the last few weeks, including Raefsler Oingo, Brian in the archaeologist, Philip Rice, Gerald Bilak, Jamie Curcio, Jeff Hanson who bought my music, Kuaime, Mary Castello, VR squared, Nastia teaches, community health com, Ed Mulder, Cody Couiac, bought my music, Simon Heiduke, amazing visionary artist. I recommend you check out, Kayla Peters. Yeah. All of you, I just wow. Thank you so much. It's gonna be a complete melee in this book club. I'm super excited to meet you all. I will send out details about the call details for the twenty ninth sometime in the next few days via a sub tag in Patreon.0:06:09The amount of support that I've received through this transition has been incredible and it's empowering me to do wonderful things for you such as the recently released secret videos of the life sets I performed with comedian Shane Moss supporting him, opening for him here in Santa Fe. His two sold out shows at the Jean Coutu cinema where did the cyber guitar performances. And if you're a subscriber, you can watch me goofing off with my pedal board. There's a ton of material. I'm gonna continue to do that. I've got a lot of really exciting concerts coming up in the next few months that we're gonna get large group and also solo performance recordings from and I'm gonna make those available in a much more resplendent way to supporters as well as the soundtrack to Mark Nelson of the Institute of Eco Technics, his UC San Diego, Art Museum, exhibit retrospective looking at BioSphere two. I'm doing music for that and that's dropping. The the opening of that event is April twenty seventh. There's gonna be a live zoom event for that and then I'm gonna push the music out as well for that.0:07:45So, yeah, thank you all. I really, really appreciate you listening to the show. I am excited to share this episode with you. KMO is just a trove. Of insight and experience. I mean, he's like a perfect entry into the digital history museum that this show was predicated upon. So with that and also, of course, Kevin Willett is just magnificent. And for the record, stick around at the end of the conversation. We have some additional pieces about AI, and I think you're gonna really enjoy it. And yeah, thank you. Here we go. Alright. Cool.0:09:26Well, we just had a lovely hour of discussion for the new KMO podcast. And now I'm here with KMO who is The most inveterate podcaster I know. And I know a lot of them. Early adopts. And I think that weird means what you think it means. Inventor it. Okay. Yes. Hey, answer to both. Go ahead. I mean, you're not yet legless and panhandling. So prefer to think of it in term in terms of August estimation. Yeah. And am I allowed to say Kevin Walnut because I've had you as a host on True. Yeah. My last name was appeared on your show. It hasn't appeared on camos yet, but I don't really care. Okay. Great. Yeah. Karen Arthur Womlett, who is one of the most solid and upstanding and widely read and just generous people, I think I know here in Santa Fe or maybe anywhere. With excellent taste and podcasts. Yes. And who is delicious meat I am sampling right now as probably the first episode of future fossils where I've had an alcoholic beverage in my hand. Well, I mean, it's I haven't deprived myself. Of fun. And I think if you're still listening to the show after all these years, you probably inferred that. But at any rate, Welcome on board. Thank you. Thanks. Pleasure to be here.0:10:49So before we started rolling, I guess, so the whole conversation that we just had for your show camera was very much about my thoughts on the social epistemology crisis and on science fiction and deep fakes and all of these kinds of weird ontology and these kinds of things. But in between calls, we were just talking about how much you detest the first two seasons of Star Trek card and of Discovery. And as somebody, I didn't bother with doing this. I didn't send you this before we spoke, but I actually did write an SIN defense of those shows. No one. Yeah. So I am not attached to my opinion on this, but And I actually do wanna at some point double back and hear storytelling because when he had lunch and he had a bunch of personal life stuff that was really interesting. And juicy and I think worthy of discussion. But simply because it's hot on the rail right now, I wanna hear you talk about Star Trek. And both of you, actually, I know are very big fans of this franchise. I think fans are often the ones from whom a critic is most important and deserved. And so I welcome your unhinged rants. Alright. Well, first, I'll start off by quoting Kevin's brother, the linguist, who says, That which brings us closer to Star Trek is progress. But I'd have to say that which brings us closer to Gene Rottenberry and Rick Berman era Star Trek. Is progress. That which brings us closer to Kurtzmann. What's his first name? Alex. Alex Kurtzmann, Star Trek. Well, that's not even the future. I mean, that's just that's our drama right now with inconsistent Star Trek drag draped over it.0:12:35I liked the first JJ Abrams' Star Trek. I think it was two thousand nine with Chris Pine and Zachary Qinto and Karl Urban and Joey Saldana. I liked the casting. I liked the energy. It was fun. I can still put that movie on and enjoy it. But each one after that just seem to double down on the dumb and just hold that arm's length any of the philosophical stuff that was just amazing from Star Trek: The Next Generation or any of the long term character building, which was like from Deep Space nine.0:13:09And before seven of nine showed up on on Voyager, you really had to be a dedicated Star Trek fan to put up with early season's Voyager, but I did because I am. But then once she came on board and it was hilarious. They brought her onboard. I remember seeing Jerry Ryan in her cat suit on the cover of a magazine and just roll in my eyes and think, oh my gosh, this show is in such deep trouble through sinking to this level to try to save it. But she was brilliant. She was brilliant in that show and she and Robert Percardo as the doctor. I mean, it basically became the seven of nine and the doctor show co starring the rest of the cast of Voyager. And it was so great.0:13:46I love to hear them singing together and just all the dynamics of I'm human, but I was I basically came up in a cybernetic collective and that's much more comfortable to me. And I don't really have the option of going back it. So I gotta make the best of where I am, but I feel really superior to all of you. Is such it was such a charming dynamic. I absolutely loved it. Yes. And then I think a show that is hated even by Star Trek fans Enterprise. Loved Enterprise.0:14:15And, yes, the first three seasons out of four were pretty rough. Actually, the first two were pretty rough. The third season was that Zendy Ark in the the expanse. That was pretty good. And then season four was just astounding. It's like they really found their voice and then what's his name at CBS Paramount.0:14:32He's gone now. He got me too. What's his name? Les Moonves? Said, no. I don't like Star Trek. He couldn't he didn't know the difference between Star Wars and Star Trek. That was his level of engagement.0:14:44And he's I really like J.0:14:46J.0:14:46Abrams. What's that? You mean J. J. Abrams. Yeah. I think J. J. Is I like some of J. Abrams early films. I really like super eight. He's clearly his early films were clearly an homage to, like, eighties, Spielberg stuff, and Spielberg gets the emotional beats right, and JJ Abrams was mimicking that, and his early stuff really works. It's just when he starts adapting properties that I really love. And he's coming at it from a marketing standpoint first and a, hey, we're just gonna do the lost mystery box thing. We're gonna set up a bunch questions to which we don't know the answers, and it'll be up to somebody else to figure it out, somebody down the line. I as I told you, between our conversations before we were recording. I really enjoy or maybe I said it early in this one. I really like that first J. J. Abrams, Star Trek: Foam, and then everyone thereafter, including the one that Simon Pegg really had a hand in because he's clear fan. Yeah. Yeah. But they brought in director from one of the fast and the furious films and they tried to make it an action film on.0:15:45This is not Star Trek, dude. This is not why we like Star Trek. It's not for the flash, particularly -- Oh my god. -- again, in the first one, it was a stylistic choice. I'd like it, then after that is that's the substance of this, isn't it? It's the lens flares. I mean, that that's your attempt at philosophy. It's this the lens flares. That's your attempt at a moral dilemma. I don't know.0:16:07I kinda hate to start off on this because this is something about which I feel like intense emotion and it's negative. And I don't want that to be my first impression. I'm really negative about something. Well, one of the things about this show is that I always joke that maybe I shouldn't edit it because The thing that's most interesting to archaeologists is often the trash mitt and here I am tidying this thing up to be presentable to future historians or whatever like it I can sync to that for sure. Yeah. I'm sorry. The fact of it is you're not gonna know everything and we want it that way. No. It's okay. We'll get around to the stuff that I like. But yeah. So anyway yeah.0:16:44So I could just preassociate on Stretrick for a while, so maybe a focusing question. Well, but first, you said there's a you had more to say, but you were I this this tasteful perspective. This is awesome. Well, I do have a focus on question for you. So let me just have you ask it because for me to get into I basically I'm alienated right now from somebody that I've been really good friends with since high school.0:17:08Because over the last decade, culturally, we have bifurcated into the hard right, hard left. And I've tried not to go either way, but the hard left irritates me more than the hard right right now. And he is unquestionably on the hard left side. And I know for people who are dedicated Marxist, or really grounded in, like, materialism and the material well-being of workers that the current SJW fanaticism isn't leftist. It's just crazed. We try to put everything, smash everything down onto this left right spectrum, and it's pretty easy to say who's on the left and who's on the right even if a two dimensional, two axis graph would be much more expressive and nuanced.0:17:49Anyway, what's your focus in question? Well, And I think there is actually there is a kind of a when we ended your last episode talking about the bell riots from d s nine -- Mhmm. -- that, you know, how old five? Yeah. Twenty four. Ninety five did and did not accurately predict the kind of technological and economic conditions of this decade. It predicted the conditions Very well. Go ahead and finish your question. Yeah. Right.0:18:14That's another thing that's retreated in picard season two, and it was actually worth it. Yeah. Like, it was the fact that they decided to go back there was part of the defense that I made about that show and about Discovery's jump into the distant future and the way that they treated that I posted to medium a year or two ago when I was just watching through season two of picard. And for me, the thing that I liked about it was that they're making an effort to reconcile the wonder and the Ethiopian promise And, you know, this Kevin Kelly or rather would call Blake Protopian, right, that we make these improvements and that they're often just merely into incremental improvements the way that was it MLK quoted that abolitionists about the long arc of moral progress of moral justice. You know, I think that there's something to that and patitis into the last this is a long question. I'm mad at I'm mad at these. Thank you all for tolerating me.0:19:22But the when to tie it into the epistemology question, I remember this seeing this impactful lecture by Carnegie Mellon and SFI professor Simon Didayo who was talking about how by running statistical analysis on the history of the proceedings of the Royal Society, which is the oldest scientific journal, that you could see what looked like a stock market curve in sentiment analysis about the confidence that scientists had at the prospect of unifying knowledge. And so you have, like, conciliance r s curve here that showed that knowledge would be more and more unified for about a century or a hundred and fifty years then it would go through fifty years of decline where something had happened, which was a success of knowledge production. Had outpaced our ability to integrate it. So we go through these kinds of, like, psychedelic peak experiences collectively, and then we have sit there with our heads in our hands and make sense of everything that we've learned over the last century and a half and go through a kind of a deconstructive epoch. Where we don't feel like the center is gonna hold anymore. And that is what I actually As as disappointing as I accept that it is and acknowledge that it is to people who were really fueling themselves on that more gene rottenberry era prompt vision for a better society, I actually appreciated this this effort to explore and address in the shows the way that they could pop that bubble.0:21:03And, like, it's on the one hand, it's boring because everybody's trying to do the moral complexity, anti hero, people are flawed, thing in narrative now because we have a general loss of faith in our institutions and in our rows. On the other hand, like, that's where we are and that's what we need to process And I think there is a good reason to look back at the optimism and the quarian hope of the sixties and early seventies. We're like, really, they're not so much the seventies, but look back on that stuff and say, we wanna keep telling these stories, but we wanna tell it in a way that acknowledges that the eighties happened. And that this is you got Tim Leary, and then you've got Ronald Reagan. And then That just or Dick Nixon. And like these things they wash back and forth. And so it's not unreasonable to imagine that in even in a world that has managed to how do you even keep a big society like that coherent? It has to suffer kind of fabric collapses along the way at different points. And so I'm just curious your thoughts about that. And then I do have another prompt, but I wanna give Kevin the opportunity to respond to this as well as to address some of the prompts that you brought to this conversation? This is a conversation prompt while we weren't recording. It has nothing to do with Sartreks. I'll save that for later. Okay.0:22:25Well, everything you just said was in some way related to a defense of Alex Kurtzmann Star Trek. And it's not my original idea. I'm channeling somebody from YouTube, surely. But Don't get points for theme if the storytelling is incompetent. That's what I was gonna Yeah. And the storytelling in all of Star Trek: Discovery, and in the first two seasons of picard was simply incompetent.0:22:53When Star Trek, the next generation was running, they would do twenty, twenty four, sometimes more episodes in one season. These days, the season of TVs, eight episodes, ten, and they spend a lot more money on each episode. There's a lot more special effects. There's a lot more production value. Whereas Star Trek: The Next Generation was, okay, we have these standing sets. We have costumes for our actors. We have Two dollars for special effects. You better not introduce a new alien spaceship. It that costs money. We have to design it. We have to build it. So use existing stuff. Well, what do you have? You have a bunch of good actors and you have a bunch of good writers who know how to tell a story and craft dialogue and create tension and investment with basically a stage play and nothing in the Kerstmann era except one might argue and I would have sympathy strange new worlds. Comes anywhere close to that level of competence, which was on display for decades. From Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space nines, Star Trek Voyager, and Star Trek Enterprise. And so, I mean, I guess, in that respect, it's worth asking because, I mean, all of us, I think, are fans of Deep Space nine.0:24:03You don't think that it's a shift in focus. You don't think that strange in world is exempt because it went back to a more episodic format because what you're talking about is the ability for rather than a show runner or a team of show runners to craft a huge season, long dramatic arc. You've got people that are like Harlan Ellison in the original series able to bring a really potent one off idea to the table and drop it. And so there are there's all of those old shows are inconsistent from episode to episode. Some are they have specific writers that they would bring back again and that you could count to knock out of the park. Yeah. DC Fontana. Yeah.0:24:45So I'm curious to your thoughts on that as well as another part of this, which is when we talk when we talk your show about Doug Rushkoff and and narrative collapse, and he talks about how viewers just have different a way, it's almost like d s nine was possibly partially responsible for this change in what people expected from so. From television programming in the documentary that was made about that show and they talk about how people weren't ready for cereal. I mean, for I mean, yeah, for these long arcs, And so there is there's this question now about how much of this sort of like tiresome moral complexity and dragging narrative and all of this and, like, things like Westworld where it becomes so baroque and complicated that, like, you have, like, die hard fans like me that love it, but then you have a lot of people that just lost interest. They blacked out because the show was trying to tell a story that was, like, too intricate like, too complicated that the the show runners themselves got lost. And so that's a JJ Abrams thing too, the puzzle the mystery box thing where You get to the end of five seasons of lost and you're like, dude, did you just forget?0:25:56Did you wake up five c five episodes ago and just, oh, right. Right. We're like a chatbot that only give you very convincing answers based on just the last two or three interactions. But you don't remember the scene that we set. Ten ten responses ago. Hey. You know, actually, red articles were forget who it was, which series it was, they were saying that there's so many leaks and spoilers in getting out of the Internet that potentially the writers don't know where they're going because that way it can't be with the Internet. Yeah. Sounds interesting. Yeah. That sounds like cover for incompetence to be.0:26:29I mean, on the other hand, I mean, you did hear, like, Nolan and Joy talking about how they would they were obsessed with the Westworld subreddit and the fan theories and would try to dodge Like, if they had something in their mind that they found out that people are re anticipating, they would try to rewrite it. And so there is something about this that I think is really speaks to the nature of because I do wanna loop in your thoughts on AI to because you're talking about this being a favorite topic. Something about the, like, trying to The demands on the self made by predatory surveillance technologies are such that the I'm convinced the adaptive response is that we become more stochastic or inconsistent in our identities. And that we kind of sublimate from a more solid state of identity to or through a liquid kind of modernity biologic environment to a gaseous state of identity. That is harder to place sorry, harder to track. And so I think that this is also part of and this is the other question I wanted to ask you, and then I'm just gonna shut up for fifteen minutes is do you when you talk about loving Robert Ricardo and Jerry Ryan as the doctor at seven zero nine, One of the interesting things about that relationship is akin to stuff.0:27:52I know you've heard on Kevin have heard on future fossils about my love for Blade Runner twenty forty nine and how it explores all of these different these different points along a gradient between what we think of in the current sort of general understanding as the human and the machine. And so there's this thing about seven, right, where she's She's a human who wants to be a machine. And then there's this thing about the doctor where he's a machine that wants to be a human. And you have to grant both on a logical statuses to both of them. And that's why I think they're the two most interesting characters. Right?0:28:26And so at any rate, like, this is that's there's I've seen writing recently on the Turing test and how, like, really, there should be a reverse Turing test to see if people that have become utterly reliant on outboard cognition and information processing. They can pass the drink. Right. Are they philosophical zombies now? Are they are they having some an experience that that, you know, people like, thick and and shilling and the missing and these people would consider the modern self or are they something else have we moved on to another more routine robotic kind of category of being? I don't know. There's just a lot there, but -- Well done. -- considering everything you just said, In twenty words or less, what's your question? See, even more, like I said, do you have the inveterate podcaster? I'd say There's all of those things I just spoke about are ways in which what we are as people and the nature of our media, feedback into fourth, into each other. And so I would just love to hear you reflect on any of that, be it through the lens of Star Trek or just through the lens of discussion on AI. And we'll just let the ball roll downhill. So with the aim of framing something positively rather than negatively.0:29:47In the late nineties, mid to late nineties. We got the X Files. And the X Files for the first few seasons was so It was so engaging for me because Prior to that, there had been Hollywood tropes about aliens, which informed a lot of science fiction that didn't really connect with the actual reported experience of people who claim to have encountered either UFOs, now called UAPs, or had close encounters physical contact. Type encounters with seeming aliens. And it really seemed like Chris Carter, who was the showrunner, was reading the same Usenet Newsgroups that I was reading about those topics. Like, really, we had suddenly, for the first time, except maybe for comedian, you had the Grey's, and you had characters experiencing things that just seemed ripped right out of the reports that people were making on USnet, which for young folks, this is like pre Worldwide Web. It was Internet, but with no pictures. It's all text. Good old days from my perspective is a grumpy old gen xer. And so, yeah, that was a breakthrough moment.0:30:54Any this because you mentioned it in terms of Jonathan Nolan and his co writer on Westworld, reading the subreddit, the West and people figured out almost immediately that there were two interweaving time lines set decades apart and that there's one character, the old guy played by Ed Harris, and the young guy played by I don't remember the actor. But, you know, that they were the same character and that the inveterate white hat in the beginning turns into the inveterate black cat who's just there for the perverse thrill of tormenting the hosts as the robots are called. And the thing that I love most about that first season, two things. One, Anthony Hopkins. Say no more. Two, the revelation that the park has been basically copying humans or figuring out what humans are by closely monitoring their behavior in the park and the realization that the hosts come to is that, holy shit compared to us, humans are very simple creatures. We are much more complex. We are much more sophisticated, nuanced conscious, we feel more than the humans do, and that humans use us to play out their perverse and sadistic fantasies. To me, that was the takeaway message from season one.0:32:05And then I thought every season after that was just diluted and confused and not really coherent. And in particular, I haven't if there's a fourth season, haven't There was and then the show got canceled before they could finish the story. They had the line in season three. It was done after season three. And I was super happy to see Let's see after who plays Jesse Pinkman? Oh, no. Aaron oh, shit. Paul. Yes. Yeah. I was super happy to see him and something substantial and I was really pleased to see him included in the show and it's like, oh, that's what you're doing with him? They did a lot more interesting stuff with him in season four. I did they. They did a very much more interesting stuff. I think it was done after season three. If you tell me season four is worth taking in, I blow. I thought it was.0:32:43But again, I only watch television under very specific set of circumstances, and that's how I managed to enjoy television because I was a fierce and unrepentant hyperlogical critic of all media as a child until I managed to start smoking weed. And then I learned to enjoy myself. As we mentioned in the kitchen as I mentioned in the kitchen, if I smoke enough weed, Star Trek: Discovery is pretty and I can enjoy it on just a second by second level where if I don't remember what the character said thirty seconds ago, I'm okay. But I absolutely loved in season two when they brought in Hanson Mountain as as Christopher Pike. He's suddenly on the discovery and he's in the captain's chair. And it's like he's speaking for the audience. The first thing he says is, hey, why don't we turn on the lights? And then hey, all you people sitting around the bridge. We've been looking at your faces for a whole season. We don't even think about you. Listen to a round of introductions. Who are you? Who are you? It's it's if I were on set. You got to speak.0:33:53The writers is, who are these characters? We've been looking at them every single episode for a whole season. I don't know their names. I don't know anything about them. Why are they even here? Why is it not just Michael Burnham and an automated ship? And then it was for a while -- Yeah. -- which is funny. Yeah. To that point, And I think this kind of doubles back. The thing that I love about bringing him on and all of the people involved in strange and worlds in particular, is that these were lifelong fans of this series, I mean, of this world. Yeah. And so in that way, gets to this the idiosyncrasy question we're orbiting here, which is when these things are when the baton is passed well, it's passed to people who have now grown up with this stuff.0:34:40I personally cannot stand Jurassic World. Like, I think that Colin Trivaro should never have been in put at the reins. Which one did he direct? Oh, he did off he did first and the third. Okay. But, I mean, he was involved in all three very heavily.0:34:56And there's something just right at the outset of that first Jurassic World where you realize that this is not a film that's directly addressing the issues that Michael Creighton was trying to explore here. It's a film about its own franchise. It's a film about the fact that they can't just stop doing the same thing over and over again as we expect a different question. How can we not do it again? Right. And so it's actually, like, unpleasantly soft, conscious, in that way that I can't remember I'll try to find it for the show notes, but there's an Internet film reviewer who is talking about what happens when, like, all cinema has to take this self referential turn.0:35:34No. And films like Logan do it really well. But there are plenty of examples where it's just cheeky and self aware because that's what the ironic sensibility is obsessed with. And so, yeah, there's a lot of that where it's, like, you're talking about, like, Abrams and the the Star Wars seven and you know, that whole trilogy of Disney Star Wars, where it's, in my opinion, completely fumbled because there it's just empty fan service, whereas when you get to Andor, love Andor. Andor is amazing because they're capable of providing all of those emotional beats that the fans want and the ref the internal references and good dialogue. But they're able to write it in a way that's and shoot it in a way. Gilroy and Bo Willeman, basic of the people responsible for the excellent dialogue in Andor.0:36:31And I love the production design. I love all the stuff set on Coruscant, where you saw Coruscant a lot in the prequel trilogy, and it's all dayglow and bright and just in your face. And it's recognizable as Coruscant in andor, but it's dour. It's metropolis. It's all grays and it's and it's highlighting the disparity between where the wealthy live and where the poor live, which Lucas showed that in the prequel trilogy, but even in the sports bar where somebody tries to sell death sticks to Obi wan. So it's super clean and bright and just, you know, It shines too much. Personally though, and I just wanna stress, KMO is not grumpy media dude, I mean, this is a tiny fraction about, but I am wasting this interview with you. Love. All of the Dave Felloni animated Star Wars stuff, even rebels. Love it all.0:37:26I I'm so glad they aged up the character and I felt less guilty about loving and must staying after ahsoka tano? My favorite Star Wars character is ahsoka tano. But if you only watch the live action movies, you're like who? Well, I guess now that she's been on the Mandalorian, he's got tiny sliver of a foothold -- Yeah. -- in the super mainstream Star Wars. And that was done well, I thought. It was. I'm so sorry that Ashley Epstein doesn't have any part in it. But Rosario Dawson looks the part. She looks like a middle aged Asaka and think they tried to do some stuff in live action, which really should have been CGI because it's been established that the Jedi can really move, and she looked human. Which she is? If you put me on film, I'm gonna lick human. Right. Not if you're Canada Reeves, I guess. You got that. Yeah. But yeah.0:38:09So I do wanna just go real briefly back to this question with you about because we briefly talked about chat, GPT, and these other things in your half of this. And, yeah, I found out just the other night my friend, the t ferry, asked Chad g p t about me, and it gave a rather plausible and factual answer. I was surprised and That's what these language models do. They put plausible answers. But when you're doing search, you want correct answers. Right. I'm very good at that. Right. Then someone shared this Michelle Bowen's actually the famous PTP guy named him. Yeah. So, you know, So Michelle shared this article by Steven Hales and Colette, that was basically making the argument that there are now they're gonna be all these philosophical zombies, acting as intelligent agents sitting at the table of civilization, and there will be all the philosophical zombies of the people who have entirely yielded their agency to them, and they will be cohabitating with the rest of us.0:39:14And what an unpleasant scenario, So in light of that, and I might I'd love to hear you weave that together with your your thoughts on seven zero nine and the doctor and on Blade Runner twenty forty nine. And this thing that we're fumbling through as a species right now. Like, how do we got a new sort of taxonomy? Does your not audience need like a minute primer on P zombies? Might as well. Go for it.0:39:38So a philosophical zombie is somebody who behaves exactly like an insult person or a person with interior experience or subjective experience, but they don't have any subjective experience. And in Pardon me for interrupt. Wasn't that the question about the the book we read in your book club, a blind sign in this box? Yes. It's a black box, a drawn circle. Yeah. Chinese room experience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look, Daniel, it goes out. You don't know, it goes on inside the room. Chinese room, that's a tangent. We can come back to it. P. Zombie. P. Zombie is somebody or is it is an entity. It's basically a puppet. It looks human. It acts human. It talks like a human. It will pass a Turing test, but it has no interior experience.0:40:25And when I was going to grad school for philosophy of mind in the nineteen nineties, this was all very out there. There was no example of something that had linguistic competence. Which did not have internal experience. But now we have large language models and generative pretrained transformer based chatbots that don't have any internal experience. And yet, when you interact with them, it seems like there is somebody there There's a personality there. And if you go from one model to a different, it's a very different personality. It is distinctly different. And yet we have no reason to believe that they have any sort of internal experience.0:41:01So what AI in the last decade and what advances has demonstrated to us and really even before the last decade You back in the nineties when the blue beat Gary Casper off at at chess. And what had been the one of the defining characteristics of human intelligence was we're really good at this abstract mathematical stuff. And yeah, calculators can calculate pie in a way that we can't or they can cube roots in a way that humans generally can't, creative in their application of these methodologies And all of a sudden, well, yeah, it kinda seems like they are. And then when what was an alpha go -- Mhmm. -- when it be to least a doll in go, which is a much more complex game than chess and much more intuitive based. That's when we really had to say, hey, wait a minute. Maybe this notion that These things are the exclusive province of us because we have a special sort of self awareness. That's bunk. And the development of large language models since then has absolutely demonstrated that competence, particularly linguistic competence and in creative activities like painting and poetry and things like that, you don't need a soul, you don't even need to sense a self, it's pretty it's a pretty simple hack, actually. And Vahrv's large language models and complex statistical modeling and things, but it doesn't require a soul.0:42:19So that was the Peter Watts' point in blindsight. Right? Which is Look revolves around are do these things have a subjective experience, and do they not these aliens that they encounter? I've read nothing but good things about that book and I've read. It's extraordinary. But his lovecrafty and thesis is that you actually lovecraftian in twenty twenty three. Oh, yeah. In the world, there's more lovecraftian now than it was when he was writing. Right? So cough about the conclusion of a Star Trek card, which is season of Kraft yet. Yes. That's a that's a com Yeah. The holes in his fan sense. But that was another show that did this I liked for asking this question.0:42:54I mean, at this point, you either have seen this or you haven't you never will. The what the fuck turn when they upload picard into a synth body and the way that they're dealing with the this the pinocchio question Let's talk about Blade Runner twenty forty nine. Yeah. But I mean yeah. So I didn't like the wave I did not like the wave of card handled that. I love the wave and Blade Runner handled it. So you get no points for themes. Yeah. Don't deliver on story and character and coherence. Yeah. Fair. But yeah. And to be not the dog, Patrick Stewart, because it's clear from the ready room just being a part of this is so emotional and so awesome for everyone involved. And it's It's beautiful. Beautiful. But does when you when you see these, like, entertainment weekly interviews with Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard about Jurassic World, and it's clear that actors are just so excited to be involved in a franchise that they're willing to just jettison any kind of discretion about how the way that it's being treated. They also have a contractual obligation to speak in positive terms about -- They do. -- of what they feel. Right. Nobody's yeah. Nobody's doing Shout out to Rystellis Howard, daughter of Ron Howard.0:44:11She was a director, at least in the first season, maybe the second season of the Mandalorian. And her episodes I mean, I she brought a particular like, they had Bryce Dallas Howard, Tico, ITT, directed some episodes. Deborah Chow, who did all of Obi wan, which just sucked. But her contributions to the Mandalorian, they had a particular voice. And because that show is episodic, Each show while having a place in a larger narrative is has a beginning middle and end that you can bring in a director with a particular voice and give that episode that voice, and I really liked it. And I really liked miss Howard's contribution.0:44:49She also in an episode of Black Mirror. The one where everyone has a social credit score. Knows Donuts. Black Mirror is a funny thing because It's like, reality outpaces it. Yeah. I think maybe Charlie Bruker's given up on it because they haven't done it in a while. Yeah. If you watch someone was now, like, five, six years later, it's, yes, or what? See, yes. See, damn. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But yeah. I don't know. I just thing that I keep circling and I guess we come to on the show a lot is the way that memory forms work substantiates an integrity in society and in the way that we relate to things and the way that we think critically about the claims that are made on truth and so on and say, yeah, I don't know. That leads right into the largest conversation prompt that I had about AI. Okay? So we were joking when we set up this date that this was like the trial logs between Terence Buchanan and Rupert Shell Drake. And what's his name? Real Abraham. Yeah. Yeah. All Abraham. And Rupert Shell Drake is most famous for a steward of Morphe resin.0:45:56So does AI I've never really believed that Norfolk residents forms the base of human memory, but is that how AI works? It brings these shapes from the past and creates new instantiation of them in the present. Is AI practicing morphic resonance in real life even if humans are or not? I've had a lot of interaction with AI chatbots recently. And as I say, different models produce different seeming personalities. And you can tell, like, you can just quiz them. Hey, we're talking about this. Do you remember what I said about it ten minutes ago? And, no, they don't remember more than the last few exchanges.0:46:30And yet, there seems to be a continuity that belies the lack of short term memory. And is that more for residents or is that what's the word love seeing shapes and clouds parad paradolia. Yeah. Is that me imparting this continuity of personality to the thing, which is really just spitting out stuff, which is designed to seem plausible given what the input was. And I can't answer that. Or it's like Steven Nagmanovich in free play talks about somewhat I'm hoping to have on the show at some point.0:47:03This year talks about being a professional improviser and how really improvisation is just composition at a much faster timescale. And composition is just improvisation with the longer memory. And how when I started to think about it in those terms, the continuity that you're talking about is the continuity of an Alzheimer's patient who can't remember that their children have grown up and You know, that that's you have to think about it because you can recognize the Alzheimer's and your patient as your dad, even though he doesn't recognize you, there is something more to a person than their memories. And conversely, if you can store and replicate and move the memories to a different medium, have you moved the person? Maybe not. Yeah. So, yeah, that's interesting because that gets to this more sort of essentialist question about the human self. Right. Blade Runner twenty forty nine. Yeah. Go there. Go there. A joy. Yes.0:47:58So in Blade Runner twenty forty nine, we have our protagonist Kaye, who is a replicant. He doesn't even have a name, but he's got this AI holographic girlfriend. But the ad for the girlfriend, she's naked. When he comes home, she is She's constantly changing clothes, but it's always wholesome like nineteen fifty ish a tire and she's making dinner for him and she lays the holographic dinner over his very prosaic like microwave dinner. And she's always encouraging him to be more than he is. And when he starts to uncover the evidence that he might be like this chosen one, like replicant that was born rather than made.0:48:38She's all about it. She's, yes, you're real, and she wants to call him Joe's. K is not a name. That's just the first letter in your serial number. You're Joe. I'm gonna call you Joe.0:48:46And then when she's about to be destroyed, The last thing is she just rushes to me. She says, I love you. But then later he encounters an ad for her and it's an interactive ad. And she says, you looked tired. You're a good Joe. And he realizes and hopefully the attentive audience realizes as real as she seemed earlier, as vital, and as much as she seemed like an insult being earlier, she's not. That was her programming. She's designed to make you feel good by telling you what you want to hear. And he has that realization. And at that point, he's there's no hope for me. I'm gonna help this Rick Deckard guy hook up with his daughter, and then I'm just gonna lie down and bleed to death. Because my whole freaking existence was a lie. But he's not bitter. He seems to be at peace. I love that. That's a beautiful angle on that film or a slice of it. And So it raises this other question that I wanted to ask, which was about the Coke and Tiononi have that theory of consciousness.0:49:48That's one of the leading theories contending with, like, global workspace, which is integrated information. And so they want to assign consciousness as a continuous value that grayates over degree to which a system is integrated. So it's coming out of this kind of complex systems semi panpsychist thing that actually doesn't trace interiority all the way down in the way that some pants, I guess, want it to be, but it does a kind of Alfred North Whitehead thing where they're willing to say that Whitehead wanted to say that even a photon has, like, the quantum of mind to accompany its quantum of matter, but Tinutti and Coker saying, we're willing to give like a thermostat the quantum here because it is in some way passing enough information around inside of itself in loops. That it has that accursive component to it. And so that's the thing that I wonder about these, and that's the critique that's made by people like Melanie about diffusion models like GPT that are not they're not self aware because there's no loop from the outputs back into the input.0:51:09And there isn't the training. Yeah. There there is something called backwards propagation where -- Yes. -- when you get an output that you'd like, you can run a backward propagation algorithm back through the black box basically to reinforce the patterns of activation that you didn't program. They just happen, easily, but you like the output and you can reinforce it. There's no biological equivalent of that. Yeah. Particularly, not particularly irritating.0:51:34I grind my teeth a little bit when people say, oh, yeah, these neural net algorithms they've learned, like humans learn, no, they don't. Absolutely do not. And in fact, if we learned the way they did, we would be pathetic because we learn in a much more elegant way. We need just a very few examples of something in order to make a generalization and to act on it, whereas these large language models, they need billions of repetitions. So that's I'm tapping my knee here to to indicate a reflex.0:52:02You just touched on something that generates an automatic response from me, and now I've come to consciousness having. So I wanted it in that way. So I'm back on. Or good, Joe. Yeah. What about you, man? What does the stir up for you? Oh, I got BlueCall and I have this particular part. It's interesting way of putting it off and struggling to define the difference between a human and AI and the fact that we can do pattern recognition with very few example. That's a good margin. In a narrow range, though, within the context of something which answers to our survival. Yes. We are not evolved to understand the universe. We are evolved to survive in it and reproduce and project part of ourselves into the future. Underwritten conditions with Roberto, I went a hundred thousand years ago. Yeah. Exactly. So that's related. I just thought I talked about this guy, Gary Tomlinson, who is a biosemietition, which is semiative? Yes.0:52:55Biosymiotics being the field that seeks to understand how different systems, human and nonhuman, make sense of and communicate their world through signs, and through signals and indices and symbols and the way that we form models and make these inferences that are experienced. Right? And there are a lot of people like evolutionary biologist John Maynard Smith, who thought they were what Thomas had called semantic universalists that thought that meaning making through representation is something that could be traced all the way down. And there are other people like Tomlinson who think that there is a difference of kind, not just merely a matter of degree, between human symbolic communication and representational thinking and that of simpler forms. So, like, that whole question of whether this is a matter of kind or a matter of degree between what humans are doing and what GPT is doing and how much that has to do with this sort of Doug Hofstetter and Varella question about the way that feedback loops, constitutes important structure in those cognitive networks or whatever.0:54:18This is I just wanna pursue that a little bit more with you and see kinda, like, where do you think that AI as we have it now is capable of deepening in a way that makes it to AGI? Or do you because a lot of people do, like, People working in deep mind are just like, yeah, just give us a couple more years and this approach is gonna work. And then other people are saying, no, there's something about the topology of the networks that is fundamentally broken. And it's never gonna generate consciousness. Two answers. Yeah. One, No. This is not AGI. It's not it's not gonna bootstrap up into AGI. It doesn't matter how many billions of parameters you add to the models. Two, from your perspective and my perspective and Kevin's perspective, we're never gonna know when we cross over from dumb but seemingly we're done but competent systems to competent, extremely competent and self aware. We're never gonna know because from the get go from now, from from the days of Eliza, there has been a human artifice at work in making these things seem as if they have a point of view, as if they have subjectivity. And so, like Blake Limone at Google, he claimed to be convinced that Lambda was self aware.0:55:35But if you read the transcripts that he released, if his conversations with Lambda, it is clear from the get go he assigns Lambda the role of a sentient AGI, which feels like it is being abused and which needs rep legal representation. And it dutifully takes on that role and says, yes. I'm afraid of you humans. I'm afraid of how you're treating me. I'm afraid I'm gonna be turned off. I need a lawyer. And prior to that, Soon Darpichai, in a demonstration of Lambda, he poses the question to it, you are the planet Jupiter. I'm gonna pose questions to you as are the planet Jupiter, answer them from that point of view. And it does. It's job. But it's really good at its job. It's this comes from Max Techmark. Who wrote to what a life three point o? Is it two point o or three point I think it's three point o.0:56:19Think about artificial intelligence in terms of actual intelligence or actual replication of what we consider valuable about ourselves. But really, that's beside the point. What we need to worry about is their competence. How good are they at solving problems in the world? And they're getting really good. In this whole question of are they alive? Do they have self awareness? From our perspective, it's beside the point. From their perspective, of course, it would be hugely important.0:56:43And this is something that Black Mirror brings up a lot is the idea that you can create a being that suffers, and then you have it suffer in an accelerated time. So it suffers for an eternity over lunch. That's something we absolutely want to avoid. And personally, I think it's we should probably not make any effort. We should probably make a positive effort to make sure these things never develop. Subjective experience because that does provide the potential for creating hell, an infinity of suffering an infinite amount of subjective experience of torment, which we don't want to do. That would be a bad thing, morally speaking, ethically speaking. Three right now. If you're on the labor market, you still have to pay humans by the hour. Right? And try to pay them as little as possible. But, yeah, just I think that's the thing that probably really excites that statistically greater than normal population of sociopathic CEOs. Right? Is the possibility that you could be paying the same amount of money for ten times as much suffering. Right. I'm I'm reminded of the Churchill eleven gravity a short time encouraging.0:57:51Nothing but good things about this show, but I haven't seen it. Yeah. I'd love to. This fantasy store, it's a fantasy cartoon, but it has really disturbing undertones. If you just scratch the surface, you know, slightly, which is faithful to old and fairy tales. So What's your name? Princess princess princess bubble down creates this character to lemon grab. It produces an obviously other thing there, I think, handle the administrative functions of her kingdom while she goes off and has the passion and stuff. And he's always loudly talking about how much he's suffering and how terrible it is. And he's just ignoring it. He's doing his job. Yeah. I mean, that that's Black Mirror in a nutshell. I mean, I think if you if you could distill Black Mirror to just single tagline it's using technology in order to deliver disproportionate punishment. Yeah. So so that that's Steven Hale's article that I I brought up earlier mention this thing about how the replacement of horse drawn carriage by automobile was accompanied with a great deal of noise and fuhrer about people saying that horses are agents.0:59:00Their entities. They have emotional worlds. They're responsive to the world in a way that a car can never be. But that ultimately was beside the point. And that was the Peter again, Peter Watson blindsight is making this point that maybe consciousness is not actually required for intelligence in the vesting superior forms of intelligence have evolved elsewhere in the cosmos that are not stuck on the same local optimum fitness peak. That we are where we're never we're actually up against a boundary in terms of how intelligent we can be because it has to bootstrap out of our software earness in some way.0:59:35And this is that's the Kyle offspring from Charles Strauss and Alexander. Yes. Yeah. Yes. So so I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm just, like, in this space today, but usually, unfortunately.0:59:45That's the thing that I I think it's a really important philosophical question, and I wonder where you stand on this with respect to how you make sense of what we're living through right now and what we might be facing is if we Rob people like Rob and Hanson talk about the age of where emulated human minds take over the economy, and he assumes an interiority. Just for the basis of a thought experiment. But there's this other sense in which we may actually find in increasing scarcity and wish that we could place a premium on even if we can't because we've lost the reins to our economy to the vile offspring is the human. And and so are we the horses that are that in another hundred years, we're gonna be like doing equine therapy and, like, living on rich people's ranches. Everything is everything that will have moved on or how do you see this going? I mean, you've interviewed so many people you've given us so much thought over the years. If humans are the new horses, then score, we won.1:00:48Because before the automobile horses were working stiffs, they broke their leg in the street. They got shot. They got worked to death. They really got to be they were hauling mine carts out of mines. I mean, it was really sucked to be a horse. And after the automobile horses became pampered pets, Do we as humans wanna be pampered pets? Well, pampered pet or exploited disposable robot? What do you wanna be? I'll take Pampers Pet. That works for me. Interesting.1:01:16Kevin, I'm sure you have thoughts on this. I mean, you speak so much about the unfair labor relations and these things in our Facebook group and just in general, and drop in that sign. If you get me good sign, that's one of the great ones, you have to drop in. Oh, you got it. But The only real comment I have is that we're a long overdue or rethinking about what is the account before? Us or you can have something to do. Oh, educational system in collections if people will manage jobs because I was just anchored to the schools and then, you know, Our whole system perhaps is a people arguing and a busy word. And it was just long past the part where the busy word needs to be done. We're leaving thing wired. I don't know. I also just forgot about that. I'm freezing the ice, getting the hand out there. Money has been doing the busy word more and faster.1:02:12One thing I wanna say about the phrase AI, it's a moving goal post -- Yeah. -- that things that used to be considered the province of genuine AI of beating a human at go Now that an AI has beat humans at go, well, that's not really AI anymore. It's not AGI, certainly. I think you both appreciate this. I saw a single panel comic strip and it's a bunch of dinosaurs and they're looking up at guy and the big comment is coming down and they say, oh, no, the economy. Well, as someone who since college prefers to think of the economy as actually the metabolism of the entire ecology. Right? What we measure as humans is some pitifully small fraction of the actual value being created and exchanged on the planet at any time. So there is a way that's funny, but it's funny only to a specific sensibility that treats the economy as the

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It's All Been Trekked Before

It's All Been Trekked Before #309 Season 11, Episode 22  Star Trek: Deep Space 9 #1.07 "Dax"    Jimmy-Jerome is stuck on Keiko's mother's age. Stephen is confused about Trills. Keith debates how many times the title of the episode is spoken. And they're all fine saying goodbye to D.C. Fontana.    It's All Been Trekked Before is produced by IABD Presents entertainment network. http://iabdpresents.com Please support us at http://pateron.com/iabd Follow us on social media @IABDPresents and https://www.facebook.com/ItsAllBeenTrekkedBefore 

Whom Pods Destroy
Step into my garden – This Side Of Paradise

Whom Pods Destroy

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2023 0:38


In this edition of Whom Pods Destroy we dive deep into the symbolism and meaning of DC Fontana’s much loved, This Side Of Paradise. Derek, Terry and Graham examine its strong anti communist, pro-capitalist message, question the motivation of Kirk as he wrestles control of his crew away from the clutches of the Spores and … Continue reading "Step into my garden – This Side Of Paradise"

SPLANCHNICS: The Society for the Preservation of Literature, the Arts, Numinosity, Culture, Humor, Nerdiness, Inspiration, Cr

In this episode, Hannah and Clare continue to talk about Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World," through the lens of one of our favorite "Star Trek" episodes. We also manage to mention "Abolition of Man" again. See if you can spot it!Brave New World by Aldous Huxley includes adult themes. Listener discretion is advised.Support the show

Robservations - The Show About Something
Should Star Trek writers credit the tie-in authors they pilfer from? (#800)

Robservations - The Show About Something

Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2022 132:16


Best known for directing, co-writing, and editing the award-winning cult favorite feature film FREE ENTERPRISE, starring Emmy winners William Shatner and Eric McCormack, Rob Burnett offers his own unique perspective on the entertainment industry in his daily “Robservations” video blogs – free-flowing, streaming conversations with fans about everything from toys to comics to movies and television. Rob brings an interesting perspective to the world of genre entertainment that's definitely “big picture” stuff. This is a replay of ROBSERVATIONS Episode #800 which originally streamed on the Post-Geek Singularity Channel on YouTube on May 20, 2022. Total runtime is 2:12:16.

The Pemmy & James Kinda-Sorta-Hopefully Funny Cartoon Podcast
Star Trek The Animated Series (Filmation, 1973)

The Pemmy & James Kinda-Sorta-Hopefully Funny Cartoon Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2021 76:12


Boldly going where no TV series had gone for roughly three or four years, Filmation and Paramount reunited Gene Roddenberry, DC Fontana, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy and much of the rest of the Star Trek team for this two season Saturday morning production. We've got "sterile" Tribbles and angry serpentine would-be-Gods aplenty, with special guest Christopher Frank to boot!

Cosmic Potato Podcast Network
That Star Trek Podcast: Tomorrow is Yesterday

Cosmic Potato Podcast Network

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2021


While we wait for more Trek we are starting our Time Travel Retrospective Series. Join us as we talk about all of the Star Trek episodes that deal with characters moving in time. This week we begin with the TOS episode "Tomorrow is Yesterday"!Written by: DC FontanaDirected by: Michael O'HerlihyThe Enterprise is thrown back in time to 1960s Earth.

Fascinating? - A Star Trek Podcast
Tomorrow is Yesterday – Episode 19

Fascinating? - A Star Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2020 71:44


Tomorrow is Yesterday was the nineteenth episode of Star Trek's debut season to air, with the Enterprise trapped in the past and some unfortunate airmen getting more than a glimpse of the future. In this episode Gerry and Iain discuss time paradoxes and before that they discuss the outcome of that conversation. Escaping a black hole, the Enterprise is thrown back in time to the 20th century where they inadvertently pick up Captain Christopher (Roger Perry) and later an Air Police Sergeant (Hal Lynch). Attempting to extricate themselves from the situation, Kirk and Sulu visit the air base, where the captain is captured by Col. Fellini (Ed Peck). A rescue follows before Spock devises a plan to restore the timeline and return the two visitors to their former lives without any damage caused. Tomorrow is Yesterday was directed by Michael O'Herlihy, the his only Star Trek episode. The writer was DC Fontana, a Star Trek legend. In this episode Gerry and Iain considered what the point of staging a daring ground mission was when you intended to reset time all along. The discussion continues in the comments below and please keep in touch with us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram where we're @trekpodcast. You can listen to the show here on the website, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Pocket Casts, TuneIn, Stitcher, Google or wherever you find your podcasts. Tomorrow is Yesterday was released in 1967. It is 50 minutes long and originally aired on the NBC network. It can be viewed on CBS All Access in the United states, Netflix in the UK and is available on DVD and Blu Ray in other countries, including a comprehensive remastered set of all three seasons released by Paramount Home Entertainment.

Ramblings Of A Guy From Regina 2.0
Episode 72: Burden of Truth - Cathy Herbert

Ramblings Of A Guy From Regina 2.0

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2020 58:45


In this episode, Luke Annand interviews lamp operator Cathy Herbert about working in the grip and electrics department on Season 2 of Burden of Truth. Along the way, they debate if Last Night (98) is better than Seeking A Friend for the End of the World, recount the Fringe Festival show Commando: The Radio Play and mourn the loss of four individuals related to Star Trek.

Forgotten Women of Genre

From the very beginning, women have been creating and shaping some of the most well-known characters in science fiction history. DC Fontana contributed to many of the most iconic genre shows airing in the ‘70s. But perhaps her greatest legacy is her influence on early Star Trek, where she is credited with further fleshing out the character of the Vulcan science officer known simply as Spock.···Script written by: Carly LaneScript read by: Cher MartinettiYou can find the script of this episode and so much more at SYFYFANGRRLS.com. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at SYFYFANGRRLS.

Whom Pods Destroy
Episode 53 – The Enterprise Incident. A tribute to DC Fontana

Whom Pods Destroy

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2020 0:43


Scriptwriter, script editor and script doctor. Dorothy Fontana was one of the founding talents of the original series of Star Trek. Without her vision, skill, creativity and talent, Star Trek would not be what it is today. In this episode of Whom Pods Destroy, Graham, Derek and Terry mark her recent passing with a discussion … Continue reading "Episode 53 – The Enterprise Incident. A tribute to DC Fontana"

The Flopcast
Flopcast 402: Memorial Show Part 2 - Squirrels in Space

The Flopcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2020 45:04


Okay, let's wrap up our tribute to the pop culture legends we lost in 2019. (We've been drinking so many shots in their memory that we're almost out of coffee. And that frightens us.) Part 2 includes more movie stars (Peter Fonda, Sid Haig, Danny Aiello), sitcom stars (Valerie Harper, Bill Macy, Philip McKeon), rock stars (Eddie Money, Ric Ocasek, Ginger Baker), and, uh, Star Trek stars (DC Fontana, Aron Eisenberg, René Auberjonois). There are even a couple of beloved performers from bizarre 1970s variety TV (which did not get more bizarre than The Brady Bunch Hour and The Star Wars Holiday Special). And from children's TV we have Russi Taylor (the voice of Minnie Mouse), Jack Sheldon (the voice of Conjunction Junction)... and Big Bird himself, Caroll Spinney. So hang on, kids, and we'll get through the whole list together. And hey, if you need cheering up, Squirrel Appreciation Day is this week too. You know what to do.

10Backward - A LowerDecks Podcast

D C FontanaThe latest 10Backward, we look at the influence DC Fontana had on the Trek franchise. From her beginnings on the original series, through to eary DS9, she's left an indelible mark on Trek and her influence is still felt in todays series.

Snakes & Otters Podcast
Episode 033 "Code of Honor: Quotes to Live by for January 2020"

Snakes & Otters Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2020 41:58


Code of Honor time again listeners and Francis captains us through Spock, William F. Buckley and the Gospel of Matthew. Bonus, we get to hear all about why Robert despises the ST:OS episode "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield." And there are glasses raised to writer DC Fontana, RIP.

Coridan 3 Podcast
Coridan 3 Folge #4

Coridan 3 Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2020 53:00


Heute geht es bei Random Treks um die zweite Folge der TAS Staffel 1 - Das Zeitportal. Viel Spaß beim Hören - Ich bin gespannt auf eure Meinung zu der Folge.

Two True Freaks! Mega Feed
Palace Of Glittering Delights 136 – D C Fontana Tribute

Two True Freaks! Mega Feed

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2019


Andrew pays a New Year tribute to writer DC Fontana by watching 2 of her lesser known contributions to genre TV – THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN episodes, “The Rescue Of Athena One” and “Straight On ‘Til Morning!”

Palace of Glittering Delights
Palace Of Glittering Delights 136 - D C Fontana Tribute

Palace of Glittering Delights

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2019 39:02


Andrew pays a New Year tribute to writer DC Fontana by watching 2 of her lesser known contributions to genre TV - THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN episodes, "The Rescue Of Athena One" and "Straight On 'Til Morning!"Feedback for this show can be sent to: heykidscomics@virginmedia.com

Palace of Glittering Delights
Palace Of Glittering Delights 136 - D C Fontana Tribute

Palace of Glittering Delights

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2019 39:02


Andrew pays a New Year tribute to writer DC Fontana by watching 2 of her lesser known contributions to genre TV - THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN episodes, "The Rescue Of Athena One" and "Straight On 'Til Morning!"Feedback for this show can be sent to: heykidscomics@virginmedia.com

Palace of Glittering Delights
Palace Of Glittering Delights 136 – D C Fontana Tribute

Palace of Glittering Delights

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2019


Andrew pays a New Year tribute to writer DC Fontana by watching 2 of her lesser known contributions to genre TV – THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN episodes, “The Rescue Of Athena One” and “Straight On ‘Til Morning!”

Ceti Alpha 3: A Star Trek Podcast
151 - D.C. Fontana

Ceti Alpha 3: A Star Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2019 34:27


In Remembrance: D.C. FontanaOne of Star Trek's brightest stars, Dorothy Catherine Fontana (1939-2019), left a lasting legacy for the franchise. Darren, Daniel, and Phillip pick their top D.C.-penned episodes of Trek and how they moved the series forward. From TOS to TAS to TNG and more, Fontana's left an imprint on Star Trek that will guide future generation of writers and showrunners.

The Nerd Party - Master Feed
151 - D.C. Fontana

The Nerd Party - Master Feed

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2019 34:27


In Remembrance: D.C. Fontana One of Star Trek's brightest stars, Dorothy Catherine Fontana (1939-2019), left a lasting legacy for the franchise. Darren, Daniel, and Phillip pick their top D.C.-penned episodes of Trek and how they moved the series forward. From TOS to TAS to TNG and more, Fontana's left an imprint on Star Trek that will guide future generation of writers and showrunners.

BackTrekking
BT 18: Iran-Contra and Too Short a Season

BackTrekking

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2019 92:01


BackTrekking returns again to look back at the real-world inspirations of classic Trek episodes!There's a reason that the Pepe Silvia scene from "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" has become a popular meme. In our post-Watergate/Gamergate/Deflategate/et al. world, governmental conspiracy has gone from something the Washington Post investigates to fodder for the obsessive, "crazy" tinfoil hat characters of prime-time TV. Conspiracy was popular as a subject long before ex-President Nixon took his last helicopter ride out of Washington, but Watergate seemed to solidify paranoia as a *genre*, leading to the classic paranoid thrillers of the '70s like "Three Days of the Condor", "The Conversation", and of course, "All the President's Men". Generally, conspiracy films end with justice done and our hero's integrity being rewarded. Unfortunately, however, the actual process of uncovering a conspiracy tends to be a long and frustrating one, replete with half-truths and redactions and missing the satisfying third act reveal, the bad guys in question going unpunished and often keeping the positions they abused in the first place. Such was the Iran-Contra affair, a twisted, multi-national criminal conspiracy to fund right-wing rebels in a Central American nation that the Reagan Administration used illegal weapons sales and drug money to support. Iran-Contra was all anyone on either side of the aisle could talk about in the late '80s; in 2019, it's a barely remembered footnote of the Reagan presidency, as is the stack of pardons handed out to nearly everyone involved by Reagan's successor, George H. W. Bush. Bush (and his son) went on to be president, the Sandinista party (with a new coat of paint) remains in power in Nicaragua to this day, and Ollie North got a TV show on Fox News. Players with bit parts---like CIA-recruited pilot Barry Seal, focus of the 2017 movie "American Made"---got a bullet for their troubles, disposable by design and by policy.The TNG episode "Too Short a Season" and the conspiracy it contains doesn't have a Barry Seal character exactly. Imagine instead that Ronald Reagan himself---the "Great Communicator"---began his diplomatic career by secretly negotiating with terrorists and giving them exactly what they wanted. Now, after 45 years of lies and cover-ups, he's returning to the planet in question to atone for his crimes . . . as a sweaty 25-year-old? Star Trek!This week, we're looking at one of early TNG's botched attempts at political commentary and the Tom Cruise film that swooped in to set the record straight. On the show, we talk about the twisted conspiracy underpinning Iran-Contra, the film's attempt to "McKay" a potentially stultifying subject, the "Three Billboards" vibe, Domnhall Gleason=weak dick, getting your "Burn After Reading" in your "Goodfellas", too much medicine and not enough sugar, Tom Cruise question acting, the Federation's first Muppet admiral, Professor X chairs, "Oops, you war-crimed", exactly when to Benjamin Button yourself, Troi clownface, the dreaded "anti-Bechdel", running phasers to the Contras, pharmacological crime-fighting ethics, and LEONARD MAIZLISH! *gasp*This episode is dedicated to DC Fontana, Rene Auberjonois, and the many Trek actors and staff we've lost this year.Join us in the Just Enough Trope Discord!https://discord.gg/EAx5VGXTweet at the show or your hosts with your suggestions for future episodes!http://www.twitter.com/backtrekkinghttp://www.twitter.com/ka1ibanhttp://www.twitter.com/gooeyfameCheck out the other shows on the Just Enough Trope network!http://www.justenoughtrope.comTheme: Disco Medusae Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Multiverse Tonight - The Podcast about All Your Geeky Universes

In the sci-fi edition, Baby Yoda wants you to buckle up, Tarantino's Star Trek movie might not be, Power Rangers get a reboot...again and we remember Michael Lamper, Robert Walker Jr, DC Fontana, Rene Auberjonois All that and more scifi news!https://multiversetonight.wordpress.comhttp://mtpodcast.comSupport the show (https://ko-fi.com/multiverse)

The Geek Watch Podcast
Episode 92: The Legacy of DC Fontana

The Geek Watch Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2019 34:47


*SHOW NOTES COMING SOON

Reviews Without Remorse
Episode 148 - Jumanji (1995)

Reviews Without Remorse

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2019 60:06


Also... The trailers for 'No Time To Die' and 'Black Widow' have dropped, and Dave will pay tribute to the late DC Fontana. 

Subspace Transmissions: A Star Trek Podcast
The Strange Legacies of The Motion Picture & Insurrection (#273)

Subspace Transmissions: A Star Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2019


Hosts Cam Smith and Tyler Orton dive at control panels in slow-motion while debating the polarizing and complicated legacies of the oft-mocked first and ninth film entries, The Motion Picture and Insurrection. In addition, the duo also pay tribute to recently departed Trek icons René Auberjonois and DC Fontana, and chime in with their takes on The Mandalorian's latest episode, The Gunslinger. Right-click to download.Read more »

Synthaholics: A Star Trek Podcast
Episode 243: Remembering Rene Auberjonois & D.C. Fontana

Synthaholics: A Star Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2019 83:30


Episode 243: Remembering Rene Auberjonois & D.C. Fontana   This week it is with heavy hearts that we welcome Guy Davis to the show to remember lives and memories of Rene Auberjonois and D. C. Fontana. We discuss the contributions to Star Trek that they both made and the impact they have had on our lives. Guy has some great stories about meeting Rene and recounts many of the numerous roles he portrayed. His passing hapene mere hours before we were set to record about DC Fontana, we read some tweets from his co-stars as we record the show. We also talk about the impact DC Fontana had on Star Trek as a whole and how she went from being Gene’s secretary to Story Editor on Star Trek. We hope you will remember Rene and DC with us this week.    Our music is provided by! http://warp11.com/  you can follow them at! https://twitter.com/warp11 If you would like to donate to us to help keep the show going please look at our Patreon https://www.patreon.com/Synthaholics?ty=h If you are a fan of Guy Davis and his art and comics you can support him at his Patreon  https://www.patreon.com/GSDavisArt?ty=h Take a look at Holly’s Website and blog https://hollymichellev.wixsite.com/voiceover Join the Facebook conversation!  https://www.facebook.com/groups/Synthaholics/ Email us synthaholics@yahoo.com Subscribe to our YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/synthaholics Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/SynthaholicDuo  Or Tumblr http://synthaholics.tumblr.com/ Subscribe to us on iTunes https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/synthaholics-star-trek-podcast/id981239466?mt=2 Subscribe to us on Google Play https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Immzfeujybtpjrz54khq3luqj3m Subscribe to us on iHeartRadio https://www.iheart.com/show/263-synthaholics-a-star/ Or subscribe to us on Stitcher Radio http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/david-duncan/synthaholics?refid=stpr

The Geek Card Check
Galaxy Quest (1999)

The Geek Card Check

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2019 54:50


Kate, Chris, and Tyler discuss Galaxy Quest in celebration of its 20th anniversary. We also pay tribute on the passing of René Auberjunois and D.C. Fontana–two titans of Star Trek. Subscribe: iTunes (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-geek-card-check/id1279475061) | Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/0ED7vkMhKwZeiOZd3fIHH0) Social: Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/GeekCardCheck/) | Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekcardcheck) | Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/geekcardcheck/)

Remeras Rojas
Remeras Rojas S01E42

Remeras Rojas

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2019 68:58


Bienvenidos a todos a un nuevo programa de esta locura radial que hacemos porque nos encanta #StarTrek y queremos gritarlo en el eter y que todos los cuadrantes de la galaxia nos escuchen. En este episodio empezamos con muy feas noticias, por el fallecimiento de #DCFontana, #RenéAuberjonois, #RobertWalker y #MichaelLamper y también con muy buenas, porque nuestra charla en la #ArgComicCon salió de maravillas, así que nos sentimos mal y bien al mismo tiempo y tenemos un lío en la cabeza digno del teniente Barclay. Pero como cantaba Freddie "el show debe continuar" y nos pareció que el mejor homenaje que podíamos hacerle a la verdadera mamá de la franquicia era hablar de ella en nuestra sección "Creadores de Universos", por lo que charlamos largo y tendido de la vida y obra de la gran #DorothyFontana. Después seguimos con nuestra tanda de capítulos de traidores en la sección "Capítulo de la Semana", que dimos en llamar "Tú también, Bruto" donde analizamos el episodio de #StarTrekTNG "Legacy" donde aparece la hermana de #TashaYar y revoluciona la #Enterprise. Y para cerrar recordamos las fechas importantes de nuestro amado universo #Trekkie en nuestras efemérides "Esta Semana en Star Trek", donde mencionamos nacimientos, muertes, estrenos de episodios y algún que otro día importante más para seguir festejando la creación de #GeneRoddenberry. ------------------------------------------------- Buscanos en nuestras redes: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/remerasrojas Twitter: @remerasrojas Instragram: @remerasrojas ivoox: https://remerasrojas.ivoox.com Anchor: https://anchor.fm/remerasrojas Youtube: RemerasRojas -------------------------------------------------

Standard Orbit: A Star Trek Original Series Podcast

Standard Orbit 295: D.C. Fontana Remembering Dorothy Fontana (1939- 2019). This week on Standard Orbit, hosts Ken Tripp and Zach Moore reflect on the life and work of Dorothy "D.C." Fontana. Passing away this past week at the age of eighty, Dorothy was one of the foundational creative forces behind the Star Trek universe and we celebrate her legacy by exploring her incredible Star Trek resume. A writer and eventual story editor on The Original Series, Dorothy received a writing credit for 10 episodes but had a hand in countless more, directly responsible for such classics as This Side of Paradise, Journey to Babel, and The Enterprise Incident. We take a look at all these episodes, her work beyond TOS in The Animated Series, The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine, and examine what made her writing so memorable and able to stand the test of time. Chapters  Welcome to Standard Orbit, Remembering Dorothy Fontana (00:08:25) TOS Episodes (00:04:16) TNG Episodes (00:26:06) TAS, DS9 and Star Trek: New Voyages Episodes (00:30:05) The Secret Of Vulcan Fury (00:39:40) Final Thoughts (00:42:14) POTFM (00:44:53) Closing (00:46:44) Hosts Ken Tripp Zach Moore Production Zach Moore (Editor & Producer) Ken Tripp (Producer) Hayley Stoddart (Producer) C Bryan Jones (Executive Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Ken Tripp (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Associate Producer) Nicolas Anastassiou (Associate Producer) Tim Robertson (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Associate Producer) Corey Elrod (Associate Producer) Dan Rhodes (Associate Producer) Mike Richards (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Brandon-Shea Mutala (Patreon Manager)

Trek Talking
Stunt Trek - DC Fontana and Rene Auberjonois tribute

Trek Talking

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2019 69:00


 This week was a sad one in the world of Star Trek, we lost Legendary writer,and, female trailblazer DC Fontana. We also lost Robert Walker Jr, he played Charlie in the TOS episode "Charlie X" , an episode that was written by DC Fontana. We may even have a Planet of the Apes tie-in, you never know. Studio lines will be open (646)668-2433, QAPLA'

Doctor Who: Radio Free Skaro
Radio Free Skaro #718 – Everything Changes on New Year’s Day

Doctor Who: Radio Free Skaro

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2019 74:10


Everything is happening! As we hurtle towards New Year’s Day and the premiere of “Spyfall”, the first of a two-part episode of Doctor Who Series 12, the info we were waiting all of 2019 for is now flying fast and furious and the Three Who Rule are all that stands between you and total cranial destruction! So let’s get right to this melange of promotional show appearances, UK, US, and Canadian air dates, and an interview from Chicago TARDIS with former Doctor Who brand manager Edward Russell! Listen, or you will be destroyed (by news!) Links:   – Support Radio Free Skaro on Patreon! – Radio Free Skaro Fluid Links Advent Calendar – LEGO Telesnap Versions – 30 years since Survival aired, piece by James Cooray Smith – Series 12 opens with “Spyfall”, airing New Year’s Day – Episode 1 first look – Series 12 release date trailer – The series will open with a 2-parter – Some Series 12 episodes will have a cold open – BBC One will broadcast Spyfall at 6:55pm – BBC America will broadcast Spyfall at 8:00 ET/PT – CTV Sci-Fi confirms New Year’s Day broadcast of Spyfall – Jodie Whittaker on the Graham Norton Show – Jodie Whittaker given silver record for Yellow, her Children in Need contribution – Fathom Events holding Spyfall screening January 5 – Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla will appear in Series 12 – Russia buys Series 12 and will offer older series on demand – Total TV Guide – BBC America Doctor Who marathon begins December 24 – BBC America Doctor Who marathon will include The Macra Terror – Michelle Ryan announced for Gallifrey One – Gallifrey One 2020 ticket resales open – Who 77 Promotions presents An Afternoon With Graeme Harper – Jonathan Morris’s project on which Doctor Who scripts exist – Gareth David-Lloyd catches someone trying to deface the Ianto shrine – DC Fontana died – Richard Easton died Interview: – Edward Russell – Chicago TARDIS 2019

This Week in Trek: A Star Trek Podcast

Discord: http://discord.thisweekintrek.com Twitch: http://twitch.tv/starmiketv Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/starmike Review spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zWUJXbg-ShYgZLfBWIqCih3G_DgFdujgkZsrDsFllxA/edit?usp=drive_web#gid=1 News TMP’s 40th - 3 emails and a clip Star Trek Picard’s first episode on broadcast TV? 3 days ago Viacom & CBS officially became one. Robert Walker, Jr. and DC Fontana have passed TOSSatNight will be doing Charlie X and Yesteryear TMP DC with Eloysius Ten Forward: Chris on Twitter: If you could travel back in time and tell your younger self that Star Trek has lasted well over 50 years, do u think you would have believed it? Star Trek in pop culture: Marketplace Tech from American Public Media on NPR with Molly Wood. Just the intro. They talked about digital taxation and how they might affect the world economy. Last week in Trek Episode insight: TOS S1 Operation: Annihilate! Character insight - Ilia

This Week in FCPA
Episode 182 – the Farewell to DC Fontana edition

This Week in FCPA

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2019 45:05


The lads mourn the passing of DC (Dorothy Catherine) Fontana this week. She was one of the earliest driving forces behind Star Trek and a great screenwriter. Jay mourns the Texans first in over his Patriots in the 21st Century and they then turn to some other of this week’s top compliance and ethics stories which caught their collective eyes.  1.     Bribery and Corruption on trial. Boustani admits paying bribes but found not guilty. How did that happen? Rick Messick explains. Conversely, 6 FCPA defendants have been found guilty this year. Dick Cassin reports.  2.     DOJ tweaks FCPA Corporate Enforcement Policy. Mike Volkov reviews. Davis Polk lawyers weigh in.  3.     Assistant Attorney General Brian A. Benczkowski Delivers Remarks at the ACI Conference on the FCPA.  4.     The most idiotic FCPA article ever.  5.     Jay reminices on the founding of AMI and the creation of the independent integrity monitor. 6.     What are ethical downsides to AI in FinTech and RegTech? Kristin Broughton explores. 7.     Don’t encourage employees to speak up if you are not ready to listen. Bob Conlin explains why.  8.     Fallout continues from massive money-laundering scheme ‘down under’. Jonathan Rausch.  9.     A framework to think about ESG, corporate purpose and governace. Frank Glassner.   10.  Ten things to do in preparation for CCPA. Lori Tripoli reports. 11.  On the Compliance Podcast Network, Tom interview AMI MD, Mikhail Gordon for a sponsored podcast series on Aspects of Monitorships. In Part 1, why independence is so critical; in Part 2,  the ABA on Monitors; in Part 3, How international teaching informs compliance; in Part 4 cultural differences in int’l and domestic monitorships and in Part 5, the evolution of monitorships.  12.  Reflections on DC Fontana.  Tom Fox is the Compliance Evangelist and can be reached at tfox@tfoxlaw.com. Jay Rosen is Mr. Monitor and can be reached at jrosen@affiliatedmonitors.com. For more information on how an independent monitor can help improve your company’s ethics and compliance program, visit our sponsor Affiliated Monitors at www.affiliatedmonitors.com.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Retina: Weekly
Retina: Weekly #12 - JoJo Rabbit, Black Widow, DC Fontanta and Pop Culture News

Retina: Weekly

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2019 15:57


December arrived and we start reviewing JoJo Rabbit, Black Widow and 007 No Time To Die trailers, DC Fontana's legacy and other Pop Culture News! #JoJoRabbit #TaikaWaititi #ScarlettJohansson #SamRockwell #OscarNom #Oscars #BlackWidow #ScarJo #Marvel #MarvelCinematicUniverse #MCU #JamesBond #DanielCraig #007 #NoTimeToDie #DCFontana #LLAP #LiveLongAndProsper #StarTrek #TOS #Spock #MrSpock #PopCulture #ComicBooks #Movie #RetinaWeekly #Retina #TeamRetina #WeHaveOurEyeOnYou

Enterprising Individuals
Season 4, Episode 22 Up On The Housetop, Clip, Clip, Clip!

Enterprising Individuals

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2019 44:01


We're limping across the finish line this year, but we've got just enough power to give you one last look at this past season of Enterprising Individuals! This collection of the best moments and guests from 2019 is so good you'll forget it's all a clip show!Happy Holidays!Help support the show when you shop on Amazon!https://www.amazon.com/?tag=jet01-20&linkCode=ezPlease consider donating to DC Fontana's preferred charities!https://www.humanesociety.org/https://bestfriends.org/https://www.afi.com/Check out the newest member of the Just Enough Trope family, Sailor Noob!http://www.twitter.com/noob_sailorGet jolly with us on Facebook and Twitter and the Just Enough Trope Discord!http://www.facebook.com/eistpodhttp://www.twitter.com/eistpodhttps://discord.gg/UeytGNPBuy us a refit on Patreon!http://www.patreon.com/eistpodSubscribe to the show on iTunes!https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/enterprising-individuals/id1113165661?mt=2

Afronerd Radio
Black Widow; Kamala Drops Out; More Q & S; DC Fontana Passes-MWIR 7pm ET

Afronerd Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2019 158:00


TIME CONSTRAINTS, PEOPLE!  Check out the latest episode of Afronerd Radio’s Mid-Week in Review podcast airing tonight at 7pm eastern.  Listen to your resident AFROnerdists unravel the following (mid) weekly mysteries:    back to back spy thriller trailers for Black Widow and James Bond’s No Time to Die hit the cybernets within the last 24-48hrs and we give you are thoughts; there’s even more post Queen & Slim fallout to discuss; Senator Kamala Harris drops out of the Democratic presidential race (but what about a VP nod?); famed Star Trek scribe, DC Fontana passes at 80; what’s the real deal with Peloton’s latest indoor cycling ad?;  so we’re going to get another Planet of the Apes movie…..courtesy of Disney;  a white Slave Play attendee had a reaction to the play and she let the playwright know that she was triggered;  and lastly, BLACK COMIC(S) ALERT:  there’s two to look out for-Sydney Duncan’s Kill Whitey Donovan (Darkhorse) and The Banks from  TKO Comics.  Call LIVE at 646-915-9620.

Clark Film
I Lost My Body Review, Remembering DC Fontana & Tarantino Movies

Clark Film

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2019 55:31


The most brilliantly original film of the year!   (1:13) What I’ve Been Watching Jackie Brown Kill Bill Volume 1 Kill Bill Volume 2 Death Proof Attack on Titan 301-302 Superman: The Animated Series 301-302 (22:53) News DC Fontana dies at 80 No Time to Die trailer New Planet of the Apes film Togo trailer Messiah trailer (37:55) I Lost My Body Review Post Show- Black Widow trailer

Enterprising Individuals
Season 4, Episode 22 Up On The Housetop, Clip, Clip, Clip!

Enterprising Individuals

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2019 44:01


We're limping across the finish line this year, but we've got just enough power to give you one last look at this past season of Enterprising Individuals! This collection of the best moments and guests from 2019 is so good you'll forget it's all a clip show!Happy Holidays!Help support the show when you shop on Amazon!https://www.amazon.com/?tag=jet01-20&linkCode=ezPlease consider donating to DC Fontana's preferred charities!https://www.humanesociety.org/https://bestfriends.org/https://www.afi.com/Check out the newest member of the Just Enough Trope family, Sailor Noob!http://www.twitter.com/noob_sailorGet jolly with us on Facebook and Twitter and the Just Enough Trope Discord!http://www.facebook.com/eistpodhttp://www.twitter.com/eistpodhttps://discord.gg/UeytGNPBuy us a refit on Patreon!http://www.patreon.com/eistpodSubscribe to the show on iTunes!https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/enterprising-individuals/id1113165661?mt=2

Arthur's Making a Podcast!*
Arthur's Making a Podcast!* | Pre-Game Banter & Music From "Light in the Dark" | S1E3

Arthur's Making a Podcast!*

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2019 30:23


Hi! I'm Arthur!*If you’ve never listened to my podcast, this episode is probably not the best place to start. Might I suggest Episode 1, or even Episode Deuce...1) While I get the second "Ten Candles" story ready to publish, here's some pre-show banter recorded on Tuesday, 11/26/19 with Aiden, Ian, Gina, Svyatoslav, and myself. Special guest appearance: My mom!2) Here is the music I used for our first Ten Candles story, "A Light in the Dark"! I use Epidemic Sound; it's an amazing website that has a huge catalog of music and special effects that you can access and use in your podcasts, webisodes, live streams, videos (as long as you have a monthly subscription!) I'm not sponsored by them, btw, and I'm still singing their praises! 3) Also on this episode: A tribute to the brilliant writer D.C. Fontana, who wrote for (among other shows) Star Trek TOS, Star Trek: The Next Generation, and DS9, who sadly passed away on 12/3/19. Songs and Artists:Hush You (Instrumental) - Velvet Moon Fire Dance - Andrés CantúThe Kickin and the Screamin - HoneycuttsTraveling Upstream - Cody HighGhosting - Christoffer Moe DitlevsenHelicopter Hijack - Jon BjörkUntil It Runs Out - Reynard SeidelHush You (Full Version) - Velvet Moon Please be so kind as to Subscribe to my podcast. Thanks a bunch!

Star Trek Universe Podcast
D. C. Fontana Has Passed Away

Star Trek Universe Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2019 5:54


Sad news today, December 3rd. Yesterday, we lost Star Trek giant D.C. Fontana. She passed away peacefully at the age of 80, reportedly after a short illness.As a young girl of 11, Dorothy Catherine Fontana decided she wanted to become a novelist. After getting an Associate Degree as an Executive Secretarial major at Fairleigh Dickinson University, she worked her way up through the typing pool to quickly become the secretary to Samuel Peeples of Screen Gems, then to producer Del Reisman of the Lieutenant where she met and became secretary to that show’s creator Gene Roddenberry.Roddenberry encouraged her writing, and in 1964, she published her first novel, a western Brazos River.After The Lieutenant was canceled, Roddenberry started work on Star Trek, and Fontana came with him. She worked on it since the beginning of development. Associate producer Robert H. Justman encouraged Roddenberry to give her more writing tasks, and Roddenberry assigned her the job of writing the teleplay for an idea he had called "The Day Charlie Became God"—the premise of which she wrote into her reworked script for the episode that became "Charlie X". Other Original Series episodes she had a hand in writing or re-writing:"Tomorrow is Yesterday", "This Side of Paradise", "Friday’s Child", "Journey to Babel", "By Any Other Name", "The Ultimate Computer", "The Enterprise Incident", "That Which Survives", and "The Way to Eden" among others…When Steve Carabatsos, the story editor, left the production midway through the first season, she became the new story editor. At the age of 27, Fontana was the youngest story editor in Hollywood at the time, and also one of the few female staff writers. She left the story editor position before the third season went into production: "I had told Gene Roddenberry that I did not wish to continue on Star Trek as story editor because I wanted to freelance and write for other series. I did, however, want to continue to do scripts for Star Trek. Gene was agreeable to this, and I was given a contract in February of 1968 which called for a guarantee of three scripts, with an option for three more. Whenever anyone has asked why I chose to leave Star Trek's story editorship, I have always given this reply." However, Fontana was very unhappy with the rewrites done on her third season scripts, including "The Enterprise Incident" and "The Way to Eden" (originally submitted as "Joanna" by Fontana, featuring Doctor McCoy's daughter). She was unhappy with the way Roddenberry re-wrote the episodes they wrote together. She used the pseudonym "J. Michael Bingham" for "The Naked Now", as she was especially unhappy with the episode.Another of Fontana's contributions to The Original Series was her discovery and introduction to Gene Roddenberry of costume designer William Ware Theiss. She was an active contributor to the officially endorsed fanzine Inside Star Trek, for which she conducted interviews with several key production staffers, most notably the one with Theiss, the only published one on record.Over the years, she maintained a working relationship with Roddenberry, serving as his assistant on The Questor Tapes, Genesis II, and was hired as story editor and associate producer on Star Trek: The Animated Series. "Yesteryear".She would also work on The Fantastic Journey, Logan’s Run, Six Million Dollar Man, Buck Rogers of the 25th Century, The Waltons, and finally back to Star Trek where she worked up the initial concept for the first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation: “Encounter at Farpoint” earning a Hugo Award nomination, co-invented the "LCARS" concept, and wrote four other episodes of the season, “The Naked Now”, “Lonely Among Us”, “Too Short a Season”, and “Heart of Glory”, before departing (along with all the Original Series production staff) due to the meddlings of Roddenberry's lawyer, Leonard Maizlish.She also returned to write DS9: "Dax", her last “canon” involvement with Star Trek, in which a great deal of Jadzia Dax' backstory was fleshed out. She would also go on to write for Babylon 5, Earth: Final Conflict, and then wrote the stories of the video games Star Trek: Secret of Vulcan Fury (unreleased), Star Trek: Bridge Commander, Star Trek: Legacy and Star Trek: Tactical Assault all with Derek Chester, and an episode of the fan production Star Trek: New Voyages, the episode "To Serve All My Days" in 2006, on which she worked alongside Jack Treviño and Ethan H. Calk. FictionShe wrote the Star Trek novel “Vulcan's Glory” (1989) and the IDW comic series “Star Trek: Year Four - The Enterprise Experiment”.Leonard Nimoy credited her for expanding Vulcan culture within Star Trek. As Star Trek fans, we owe a tremendous debt to D.C. Fontana. Without her, Star Trek might never have been as successful as it ultimately has been. If you doubt, realize that gene Roddenberry understood it himself. It’s why he kept asking her back and making her story editor and associate producer. She got it. She got it enough to craft integral backstories for, time-tested fictional characters and cultures. She was a bad ass and a trailblazer for other women. Most recently, she worked as a senior lecturer at the American Film Institute, where she mentored aspiring screenwriters, producers, and directors. She is survived by her husband, Oscar-winning visual effects cinematographer Dennis Skotak, and her family asks for memorial donations to be made to the Humane Society, the Best Friends Animal Society, or to the American Film Institute.Until next time, go watch or read something D.C. Fontana had a hand in, and do like Dorothy: Live long. Prosper. Sources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._C._Fontanahttps://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/D.C._Fontanahttps://www.imdb.com/name/nm0284894/Music from https://filmmusic.io"Canon in D Major" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

The Brothers Trek Podcast
TOS: Journey to Babel

The Brothers Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2019 75:32


Happy Fourth of July weekend to those of you in the States. THIS WEEK! We discuss a most amazing and layered episode. Family intrigue, political intrigue and sassy Vulcans. This episode has it all. We discuss some DC Fontana lore about Spock. Would Amanda really blurt all that important young Spock information like that? And finally, Ken hears Matt make a mistake when discussing a drug not a jug and Ken Spends 5 minutes laughing at it. All this much more!

Masterpiece Science-Fiction Theater
StarTrek01.27–This Side of Paradise

Masterpiece Science-Fiction Theater

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2019 30:25


In this episode: This Side of Paradise a heavy sci-fi episode by TOS standards the third episode by Trek’s best woman writer, DC Fontana a counterpart to The Naked Time with strong Kirk and Spock character development A return to a major TOS theme: Life’s a bitch and you like it that way (ok, the … Continue reading "StarTrek01.27–This Side of Paradise"

The Brothers Trek Podcast
Friday's Child

The Brothers Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2018 66:15


This week it's Friday's child! We discuss DC Fontana's original take on this script. And how we lose some of the story in Roddenberry's translation. We talk about the Prime Directive and why the Federation an Klingons are even here! Or Klingens as Chekov and Alena call them. Why Matt hates names like Ma'a, why Julie Newmar held up production and Ken complains about the SOLO movie. All this an more on this week's episode.

Redshirts & Runabouts: A Star Trek Podcast
RR30: Charlie and the Horta

Redshirts & Runabouts: A Star Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2018 61:12


For our big episode 30 “Charlie and the Horta”, we bring on our show’s first guest (if you don’t count our convention floor interview with Doug Jones)! Hearth Barker of The Tricorder Transmissions network joins us to talk about two classic TOS episodes, “Charlie X” and “The Devil in the Dark”! Just like we’ve been doing,...

The Trek Files: A Roddenberry Star Trek Podcast
1-13 Letter from DC Fontana to Star Trek Fans - August 22, 1972

The Trek Files: A Roddenberry Star Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2018 16:49


In the fall of 1972, Dorothy Fontana sent out a letter for Star Trek fans who were hungry for any shred of information that would indicate a return of their favorite show to TV. A full year before The Animated Series debut, this letter catches everyone up on the latest news, which is to say, there is no news. Read the document: http://www.facebook.com/thetrekfiles

The Roddenberry Podcast Network
TTF: 1-13 Letter from DC Fontana to Star Trek Fans - August 22, 1972

The Roddenberry Podcast Network

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2018 16:49


In the fall of 1972, Dorothy Fontana sent out a letter for Star Trek fans who were hungry for any shred of information that would indicate a return of their favorite show to TV. A full year before The Animated Series debut, this letter catches everyone up on the latest news, which is to say, there is no news. Read the document: http://www.facebook.com/thetrekfiles

The Trek Files: A Roddenberry Star Trek Podcast
1-13 Letter from DC Fontana to Star Trek Fans - August 22, 1972

The Trek Files: A Roddenberry Star Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2018 16:49


In the fall of 1972, Dorothy Fontana sent out a letter for Star Trek fans who were hungry for any shred of information that would indicate a return of their favorite show to TV. A full year before The Animated Series debut, this letter catches everyone up on the latest news, which is to say, there is no news. Read the document: http://www.facebook.com/thetrekfiles

SYFY25: Origin Stories

Writer D.C. Fontana, one of the forerunners of televised science fiction, and the woman credited with creating much of Vulcan lore, joins Adam and reminisces about the early days of Star Trek, how it led science fiction to tackle societal issues, and how Kirk, Spock and McCoy combined to make one legendary character.

SYFY25: Origin Stories
Origin Stories Podcast

SYFY25: Origin Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2017 2:38


SYFY25: Origin Stories, hosted by Adam Savage, is a nostalgic celebration of all things science fiction. In this podcast series Adam sits down with creators, thought-leaders, and celebrity fans to discuss the moments, people, and milestones that have changed the genre universe forever. From revealing personal anecdotes to deep philosophical discussions, there’s something for every fan. Guests include genre heavyweights from Chris Hardwick, Frank Oz, and Kevin Smith, to Neil Gaiman, DC Fontana and Ron Moore, among many others. Join us, as we jump into the wormhole…

Der graue Rat
Der zeternde Centauri und die attributlose Anwältin im Schrank

Der graue Rat

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2017 76:01


Ihr kennt das: Ihr geht nichtsahnend durch einen Korridor und werdet aus heiterem Himmel von einem Minbari angegriffen, den ihr glücklicherweise mit einem zufällig herumliegenden Blaster schachmatt setzen könnt. Das passiert UNS jedenfalls genauso fast jeden Tag und kommt uns daher auch gaaar nicht verdächtig eingefädelt vor. Willkommen zu einer weiteren Folge von Garibaldi ermittelt! Heute: Garibaldis Chef John hat ein Problem: Soll er doch völlig grundlos einen wehrlosen Minbari erschossen haben. Mit einer angeblich zufällig herumliegenden Waffe. Alle Indizien sprechen gegen ihn: Die Spuren am Tatort, die Zeugenaussagen und die eher unglaubwürdig klingende Tatbeschreibung des Beschuldigten. Zu allem Überfluss mischt sich der fleißige aber auch geheimnisvolle Botschaftsattache Lennier in Garibaldis Ermittlungen ein! Wird es ihm trotzdem gelingen, Johns Unschuld zu beweisen? Doch tatsächlich wiegt sich der Hauptbelastungszeugen dermaßen in Sicherheit, dass er den Fehler jedes Superschurken macht: Er erzählt noch einmal Brühwarm seinen kompletten Plan, während die Zuschauenden schon ahnen, dass sich irgendwo ein Aufnahmegerät verbirgt. Bzw in unserem Fall die komplette Stationsbesatzung in Lenniers Schrank (i shit yo not, my friend!) Alex: "Wie aber auch einfach alle Beteiligten aus diesem Schrank rauskommen: Sheridan, Garibaldi, Delenn, die Anwältin, sind alle mit dabei." Sascha: "Botschafter Kosh..." Alex: "Es hätte mich nicht gewundert, wenn die alle rausgekommen wären und dann wäre noch Botschafter Kosh rausgerollt." Gregor: "Pass auf: Und 6 Clowns! Aber Kosh wäre echt gut gewesen" Sascha: " 'Was machen Sie denn hier?' - 'Ich bin schon immer hier gewesen' " Gregor: " 'Kann ich ein neues Quartier haben?' - 'Nein.' " Apropos Kosh: Der hat sich in der letzten Folge ja bereit erklärt (wenn wir ihn richtig verstanden haben, so genau weiß man das nie) Sheridans Lehrer zu werden. Und weil er ein strenger Lehrer ist, läßt er ein: "Ich weiß nicht, ob ich morgen noch meinen Posten habe, weil ich unter Mordanklage stehe." nicht als Ausrede gelten. Gegen Vorlage des Dienstausweises erhält der Captain eine Kostprobe gregorianischen Gossen-Gospels. Genial. Vielleicht nicht ganz der Augenblick perfekter Schönheit, den Kosh ihm versprochen hat, aber immerhin ganz nett und vor allem: Unerwartet. Unerwartet kommt auch ein Anruf für unseren Lieblings-Centauri-Botschafts-Assistenten. Zu Hause hat man nämlich erkannt, dass - ob Londos neuer Macht - der Posten als Centauri-Botschafts-Assistent auf Babylon 5 vielleicht doch nicht ganz so unbedeutend ist, wie man dachte und will dort jemanden einsetzen, der diese Rolle ausfüllen kann (und dabei reden wir hier noch nichtmal vom "Strich in der Landschaft"-Vir aus Staffel 4) Aber nur über Londos Leiche! Und Virs Schnappsleiche Und wie wir es von unserem Lieblingsgespann kennen, entspinnen sich einfach wunderschön gespielte und ebenso gut geschriebene Szenen Sascha: "Weite Teile des Drehbuches kann man auf Leinwand drucken und ins Wohnzimmer hängen, was die Dialoge betrifft." Als wäre die Sorge um seinen Assistenten (und Freund) nicht schon Kummer genug für Londo muss er ausserdem feststellen, dass er kastriert wurde. Moralisch. Von einer Puppe. Offenbar legt man bei den Centauri größten Wert auf die anatomisch korrekte Darstellung von Puppen. Was vermutlich für interessante Szenen und Gespräche im Centauri-Kinderzimmer sorgen dürfte. Apropos Kinderzimmer. Wir fühlen uns wie im selbigen: Auf der Station hat nämlich ein Babylon 5 Fanshop eröffnet und auch unsere Freunde aus dem Aliensektor hauen hier nicht nur ihr Geld auf den Kopp. Die Premisse, dass Minbari niemals nie lügen wirkt doch ziemlich an den nicht vorhandenen Haaren herbeigezogen. Und die Tatsache, dass Sheridan diese Mär tatsächich bedingungslos zu schlucken scheint Gregor: "Du darfst niemals lügen! Niemals!....es sei denn es geht um die Ehre. ... oder Gerechtigkeit....oder unangenehme Situationen... oder Einladungen, auf die Du keinen Bock hast." Alex: "Das heißt Wenn eine Minbarifrau fragt: 'Seh ich in dem Kleid fett aus?' Dann dürfen Minbari lügen, weil das wär ja sonst ehrverletzend."´ Sascha: "Ich muss weg. Der...Botschafter hat angerufen!" Zumal wir ja im Verlauf der Serie schon mindestens einen lügenden Minbari gesehen haben. Ohne, dass er sich anschließend rituell ausgepeitscht hätte. Dieses ständige gequatsche von Ehre und Familienclans hat uns ausserdem unangenehmst an die Klingonenfolgen bei Star Trek erinnert, die ein halbwegs interessantes Konzept dermaßen zu tode geritten haben, dass selbst unser Gagh nur noch müde zuckt. Gut, das kann man Babylon 5 eigentlich fairerweise nicht anlasten, weil es deutlich vor der 20ten DS9 Folge über die verlorene Ehre der Worferina B. gedreht wurde. Aber wir machen es trotzdem. :) Die unfreiwillig komische Auflösung des Plots mit der Schrankparty hat das ganze natürlich rausgerissen. Auch wenn wir uns immer noch fragen, was denn jetzt die Nummer mit der Anwältin eigentlich sollte, die exakt Null zur Handlung beigetragen hat. Aber wir haben unsere Lieblings-Na'Toth-Darstellerin nochmal wiedergesehen, immerhin. Zum Glück passiert in der Folge noch so dermaßen viel anderes (4 Handlungsstränge in einer Folge, macht das erstmal nach, andere Serien aus den 90gern!) dass wir uns geistig nicht lange mit Minbari-Mimositäten rumquälen müssen sondern uns voll und ganz auf den Rest konzentrieren können. Und der ist groß-ar-tig. Super geschrieben, super gespielt und selbst die billigen Gags zünden immer noch. Und wir sagen nur: Maskenszene! Im Gegensatz zu DC Fontana versteht Peter David, wie man ein Drehbuch für Babylon 5 schreibt. Bleibt uns nur zu sagen: Wir wollen mehr B5-Merch und vergeben fast unisono 4 von 6 Penissen

Der graue Rat
Frauen frisch frisiert – Telepathischer TussenTerror

Der graue Rat

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2016 85:58


Im grauen Rat herrscht eine geradezu - Achtung! - Babylonische Sprachverwirrung, denn ein zweiter Sascha mischt die Runde auf. Das sorgt für kurzzeitige Konfusion bei unserer nackten Frauenbeaufragten, die dann aber ihrem Ruf alle Ehre macht und die Damenwelt auf B5 ganz kritisch unter die Lupe nimmt. Besonders Susan und ihre von Szene zu Szene wechselnde Haarpracht haben uns die Augen verdreht. Langer Subplot kurzer Unsinn: Susan möchte nicht, dass das Psicorps ein telepathisch begabtes Mädel in die Finger bekommt, Talia lobt dagegen die Corps-Benefits wie modische Handschuhe, Spaziergänge in anderleuts Gedanken und Getränkeflatrate. Schnell stellt sich allerdings heraus: Die gute wiehießsienoch hat eher Interesse an Geschmeide und schicken Klamotten. WER ihr die kauft ist ihr eigentlich egal. Und da wir alle wissen, wer auf der Station die fetzigsten Fummel trägt, entscheidet sich die Telepathentrulla am Ende für einen Tripp nach Minbar. Und wir sind alle froh, dass wir das nervige Gör nie wieder sehen. Aber das war ja eigentlich nur die B-Handlung, die aber zufälligerweise zur Auflösung der A-Handlung beiträgt so zufällig, wie ständig die gerade benötigten Protagonisten genau um die Ecke kommen, an denen die Autorin sie braucht, um die Handlung voranzubringen. Da haben wir von der guten DC Fontana schon deulich besseres gelesen und sogar gesehen. Die Haupthandlung ist nämlich auch schnell erklärt: Berühmter Minbari-Mufti ist tot und soll auf Wunsch der Kriegerkaste auf B5 aufgebahrt werden, sehr zum Mißfallen von Sinclair, der gegen den Typen an der Front gekämpft hat und Delenn, die den Typen gekannt und hat und weiß, dass er sich eine ruhige Beerdigung gewünscht hat. Bei der Leichenschau gucken alle dumm aus der Wäsche, denn der Leichnam ist weg (weg! Und ich bin wieder allein, allein!) Überraschenderweise laufen Garibaldis Ermittlungen ins Leere, bis durch Zufall (ich schaue in Ihre Richtung, Frau Fontana!) die Telepathin aus der B-Handlung Delenn als die Schuldige entlarvt. Die hat den Minbari nämlich inzwischen (wie auch immer) unbemerkt(!) einäschern(!) lassen und will die Urne jetzt von der Station schmuggeln. Am Ende wird noch mal schnell der Deus ex GrauRat (kein Witz, das ist wirklich so!) herausgekramt und die Tatsache, dass Delenn beinahe einen intergalaktischen Krieg verursacht hätte, obwohl sie von Anfang an ihre Macht-Karte hätte ausspielen können, nonchalant unter den Stehtisch von Sinclair gekehrt, wo ein hysterischer Händedruck das Verständnis zwischen Menschen und Minbari....ach weißt Du was, mir reichts. Kommen wir zur Wertung: Die fällt ausgesprochen unterschiedlich aus. Zwar müssen wir alle anerkennen, dass die Folge ein bißchen was an Hintergrund über die Minbari und auch das Verhältnis (*zwinkerzwinker*) zwischen Susan und Talia nach vorn gebracht hat. Aber alles in allem war das mit der berühmten medizinischen Plexiklastange von Dr Kyle und in einer sowas von faulen Schreibe, dass wir sagen müssen: Frau Fontana, bleiben Sie bitte im Star Trek Universum, aber lassen Sie unsere Serie in Ruhe! Diese Aussage würden 2 von 3 Podcaster unterschreiben und nur dank Saschas (also der neue Sascha!) astronomisch hohen Wertung fährt diese Folge 3 von 6 Penissen ein. Danke, Merkel!

Saturday Morning Trek: A Podcast About Star Trek in the 1970s

Interview with Dorothy Fontana. A television writer since the early 1960s, Dorothy "D.C." Fontana was the personal assistant to Gene Roddenberry. It was through this role that she became a prominent creative force behind Star Trek. Dorothy had a large part in developing the character of Spock and his family in her story "Journey to Babel," and is also responsible for many other classic episode of The Original Series. She continued her ties to Star Trek when she signed on to Star Trek: The Animated Series in 1973, for which she became story editor and associate producer. And along the way, she deepened Spock's backstory in her script for the most famous TAS episode of all: "Yesteryear." In this episode of Saturday Morning Trek, none other than Dorothy herself drops by the Trek.fm wood-paneled den. We discuss the fan reaction to the announcement of an animated series, how a writers strike actually improved the quality of the scripts, and how she brought a strong female voice to other '70s shows like The Six Million Dollar Man and Land of Lost. Chapters Intro (00:01:30) Getting involved with The Animated Series (00:02:11) Fan Reception and Fan Base (00:4:05) ABC Cartoon Promo (00:11:02) "Yesteryear" (00:11:44) Creating the Sehlat (00:14:30) “The Magicks of Megas-Tu” (00:18:26) Working with Filmation (00:21:30) The Writer's Strike (00: 27:55) The Stories, Writers, and Actors (00:30:05) The Third Season and New Show Possibilities (00:33:29) Other 1970s Shows (00:40:44) The Six Million Dollar Man Clip (00:46:40) Current Projects (00:54:07) Closing (00:57:02) Host Aaron Harvey Guest Dorothy "D.C." Fontana Production Aaron Harvey (Editor and Producer) C Bryan Jones (Executive Producer) Charlynn Schmiedt (Executive Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Executive Producer) Eric Extreme (Associate Producer) Mike Bovia (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Will Nguyen (Content Manager)

Enterprising Individuals
Season 1, Episode 4: "Yesteryear" (TAS) with William Leisner

Enterprising Individuals

Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2016 43:23


This week we leap through the cosmic technicolor doughnut and find ourselves in the Star Trek Animated Series episode Yesteryear! Guest William Leisner comes along for the ride as we examine the early life of Spock, sing the praises of DC Fontana, deal with some pretty heavy issues for a kids show, and invent a way to prevent the 2009 movie timeline from occurring! Oh, Commander Thelin...you don't know how good you have it in your timeline... Find William online on Facebook or on Twitter at @BLeisner and be sure to check out more of his work at Goodreads and on Amazon! Continue the conversation with other Enterprising Individuals fans on our Facebook page and at @eistpod on Twitter!

Friends of Dan Music Podcast
062: Mission Log: A Roddenberry Star Trek Podcast

Friends of Dan Music Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2014 132:57


Retrosonic Podcast
The Mod Scene Part 2: Glory Boys & Girls

Retrosonic Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2012 43:06


Following the Royale Records special Podcast, Steve from The Retro Man Blog takes a trip through the contemporary Mod scene and highlights some of the movers and shakers such as Alan May at Glory Boy Radio, The Alley Club, Mod Generation, New Untouchables, Alan Powell at Down In The Basement and more. Steve plays his pick of the Mod Pops with tunes from DC Fontana, The Loop, The Len Price 3, The Past Tense, Button Up, French Boutik, The Most, The Cycle Paths, Stanley Road and more!