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Find me and the show on social media. Click the following links or search @DrWilmerLeon on X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube!   FULL TRANSCRIPT: Wilmer Leon (00:00): So here's a question. How does the false construct of race, and yes, it is a false construct or the real constructs of culture and cultural identity factor into our opposition to or support for a political candidate. Let's find out Announcer (00:26): Connecting the dots with Dr. Wilmer Leon, where the analysis of politics, culture, and history converge. Wilmer Leon (00:33): Welcome to the Connecting the Dots podcast with Dr. Wilmer Leon and I am Wilmer Leon. Here's the point. We have a tendency to view current events as though they occur in a vacuum, failing to understand the broader historical context in which most events take place. During each episode of connecting the dots, my guests and I have probing, provocative, and in-depth discussions about the broader historic context in which most events occur. This enables you to better understand and analyze the events and the impact that these events have on the global village in which we live on today's episode. The issue before us is, as I stated, how does the false construct of race and it is a false construct and or the real issues of culture and cultural identity factor into our opposition to and support for candidates for insight. Let's turn to my guest, Dr. (01:35) Chantel Sherman is a historian and journalist whose work documents deconstructs and interprets eugenic themes in popular culture, identity formation among African-Americans and reproductive apartheid in carceral spaces and within marginalized communities. Publisher of Acumen Magazine, author of In Search of Purity, eugenics and Racial Uplift among New Negroes, 1915 and 1935, as well as popular eugenics in television and film. Also, she's a novelist of Fester and Spill. Dr. Chantel Sherman, welcome back. Good morning. Thank you for having me. And as always, thank you for joining me. And I got to add, she's a very, very dear friend as well, so I get to call her Chantel, before we get to the question posed in the open, A viewer of our last discussion reached out to me and wanted us to elaborate on the issues of eugenics in medicine because many of us know some things about the Tuskegee study as well as Ms. Henrietta Lacks, but there's an awful lot more to eugenics and medicine than just those two issues. So starting there, particularly with the Tuskegee experiment, I elaborate, clarify what you know to be some of the misunderstandings about that, a little bit about Henrietta Lacks and then where are we with eugenics in medicine? Shantella Sherman (03:10): Sure. It's a loaded question because it actually has, the response is almost a series of volumes, quite frankly, but to synthesize this understanding, eugenics means what you're trying to do is create better people. And in order to create better people, you have to know what they're made of, what makes good stock, what makes good genes. And so what we've tried to do in this country through eugenics is to create better people by restricting who can and who cannot have children incarcerating people performing sterilizations for sterilizations on folks who we deem as unfit. And so it's not just about the body, but it's the body politic. So if I determine that you're poor, for instance, it's believed that poverty is in your DNA diseases are automatically in your DNA. And so black people as a whole, were considered to be contaminated. We are still considered to be largely contaminated. (04:17) We are a bad gene pool, we are a subhuman group according to science and eugenics. So based on this, studying any type of disease means studying black people, and sometimes it means injecting them with certain things. So with Tuskegee, there's been a bit of a revisionist history about these are black people who had syphilis and we simply did not treat them in order to see the development of the disease or the course of the disease over years. The truth of the matter is many of these men were injected with syphilis, and that's the original documentation that we don't necessarily look at. We have to get to a point where we're looking at the entire scope of information and data. Alabama, Tuskegee was not the only place where these syphilis studies were taking place. The serological studies were taking place in six different states and they were all connected to sharecropping or farming communities, sharecropping communities where the black people there could not necessarily leave of their own free will. (05:23) And then based upon that, you had a population that you could study, you could inject with different things. I've seen studies where folks are literally looking at how pesticides work by spraying cotton fields and leaving the black people who are working in the cotton fields in the fields so that as they develop lung conditions, you now start to talk about how black people don't have the capacity to breathe in certain places or they have bad lungs or these other things as if they're genetic, when the truth of the matter is you are experimenting on them. And so we've been the Guinea pigs unwittingly in this country for a long time, but because the stroke and the core of the information is based upon black people being somehow contaminated anyway, being less human, then we become like the lab rats or the little white mice in the labs where constantly we're having things tested on us and we don't necessarily know this. Then the scope of that becomes black people are 10 times more likely to have this. They're 10 times more likely to do this or to die of these conditions, or their behaviors lend themselves to these particular things. Wilmer Leon (06:39): When you said make better people, it was inferred, but I want to state the obvious. When the Nazis were trying to make the superior race, they were not doing this for the betterment of mankind, even though in their warped racist minds, they thought, so this was not altruistic by any stretch of the imagination. They were trying to make better white people at the expense of people of color. Is that hyperbolic on my Shantella Sherman (07:22): No, it's on point. I mean, the fact of the matter is if you consider non-white people to be subhuman, there we go. Or a subspecies. Let's pull this into America. When you say American, you're not talking about black people, you're talking about white people. That's why you have to add these hyphens, African-American, because America is the culture. It is also the race. It is also the health. It is also the patriotism. It is also the citizenship. And so this language becomes loaded. So when you say American, I'm looking at things that are talking about the American birth rate. The American birth rate is not going down when we're talking about black people or Hispanic people. So where in America is the birth issue? It's an American issue. It's a white issue. Wilmer Leon (08:15): It's a very white issue. And I'm quickly trying to put my hands on a piece by Dr. Walters here. I think I have it that speaks to this in the political context where, well, I can't find the quote, but he basically talks about, it's very important to understand that, oh, here we go. This is from white nationalism, black interests, and so this is your eugenics. On the policy side, if a race is dominant to the extent that it controls the government of the state defined as the authoritative institutions of decision-making, it is able to utilize those institutions and the policy outcomes they produce as instruments through which it is also structures its racial interests. Given a condition where one race is dominant in all political institutions, most policy appears to take on an objective quality where policymakers argue they're acting on the basis of national interests rather than racial ones. So that's Dr. Walters telling us, if I can just cut to the chase, when white folks run the show and they speak in the national interest, they're talking about their interests, not ours, and that's absolutely okay. Alright, Shantella Sherman (09:55): That's it. Wilmer Leon (09:55): So two other points about Tuskegee that I think are very important for people to understand. I know there were black nurses involved and weren't there also black physicians involved? Shantella Sherman (10:08): Absolutely. Wilmer Leon (10:09): And there is some question about whether there was actual consent. How much of this did they actually know or were they dupes? Isn't that a question that gets posed? Shantella Sherman (10:24): It's a question that's posed often because the belief is that if there's a black person in the room that they're going to side for black people, they're going to defend, they're going to try and help. But the reality is when we're talking science, we're talking medicine and science on behalf of the nation, on behalf of American Americans, we want to make sure that we have a healthy pool of black people as well. So it benefited and it benefits currently many black leaders to hold onto these eugenic things and these eugenic tropes and these eugenic theories where even though we don't talk about sterilizing people in the same way we did, then you still hear people say, black people, even this person has too many kids, they don't need to have any more kids. They're on welfare already. So what do you do? You Wilmer Leon (11:18): Give them Ronald Reagan's welfare queen, Shantella Sherman (11:20): Right? Well, right. If a white person says this, it's racist. If a black person says she already has 10 kids, she doesn't need anymore. She can't afford 'em, now she's neglecting them. We start with this other thing and it becomes, so what do we do? Give her no plan or something. And if that doesn't work, go ahead and give her a hysterectomy. That's eugenics. Wilmer Leon (11:41): An example of that on the other side is Octo mom. Shantella Sherman (11:45): Exactly, Wilmer Leon (11:47): Exactly. She got a TV show or she was trying to get a, there were people who were saying, oh, this woman is out here tripping and something needs to be done. But there were also those that wanted to glorify her, put her on television in order to generate revenue, Shantella Sherman (12:11): Generate revenue, but also public opinion, where she was one, a single woman, she already had one child that she was having trouble supporting. Then it became who should have access to IVF and all these other things, and then who's going to pay for all of these eight now nine children that she has? And it was like, what is she going to do with them and dah, dah, dah, dah. But you give the duggars one, she's single. If it's the Duggars who are just full of all types of deficiencies over here, I'm using eugenic terms. I'm sorry. All of a sudden it was like, right, give them a TV show. Give them money, give them this, give them that. Because what you're doing with television is programming people to believe some people need this, some people don't. If this was a black female in Chicago, in the Robert Taylor homes years ago and she had 10 or 11 kids, you'd be running her up a flagpole at this point and talking about the degeneracy and her kids are going to be this and there's no father in the house and all of these other things. (13:09) So when you push this politically and you start talking policy, this is what you're concerned about. We should be concerned about on a local, national, and even an international scale. And so as you start to talk about candidates, we have to have a clear understanding of where our potential leaders fall, whether they're black or white, because black people are also Americans. And so we're living the American dream, and I don't want these people living next to me and I don't want a prison next to me and I don't want halfway house over here, and I don't want the school of kids over here and I don't want this, this, this and this. And that's an American thing, even if the person or the kids or the people I'm talking about happens to be brown just like me. Wilmer Leon (13:57): So to wrap up the Tuskegee, what are the two biggest misnomers about Tuskegee that you want this audience to have a better understanding of before we get to Henrietta Lacks? What do you want people to understand about Tuskegee? Shantella Sherman (14:13): The Tuskegee was not the only place, and I don't even like it being named, that it was the Eugenics records office. Serological studies. And you had five other places, five other places other than Tuskegee, where these serological tests were being done and they did not necessarily stop. Wilmer Leon (14:34): Oh, meaning that they're still ongoing. I know they were going well into the seventies at least. Shantella Sherman (14:43): And if Tuskegee is the only one that they're talking about, what makes you think that? The serological studies that were taking place in Mississippi and in Tennessee, in Georgia, just in North Carolina. In North Carolina, and again, there's a whole record of this, but we don't talk about that and we don't talk about the black people intrinsically involved in these studies and in this research, Wilmer Leon (15:08): Henrietta Lacks, if you would elaborate, Shantella Sherman (15:13): One thing that we don't discuss with Henrietta Lacks is that the fact of the matter is that she was at Crownsville, she was in Maryland. Once again, you must make the connection between eugenics and these carceral spaces, either asylums places where you need to have a mental rest. I don't like even calling them. It's a home for the mentally ill. This person may have been having menopausal symptoms. They have women in there, they were reading too much. There's a Howard University professor and his name Escape Smith, the moment high ranking Howard University professor. He was caught up in Crownsville at some point and died there. And Wilmer Leon (15:52): For those that don't know, what is Crownsville? Shantella Sherman (15:54): Crownsville was the Maryland, it's, we would say asylum now, but it was a place for people who were feeble minded or had mental health issues. And you could be put there for any of a number of reasons. But once you were there, this was the one specifically for black folks. So a whole black neighborhood was cleared in order to put this asylum there and to let you know what they thought of black people, they made the black people who were supposed to be the patients actually build the hospital itself. And it remained open for quite a while, but it was a place of torture. It was a place of experiments. And Henrietta Lacks ended up there. And so while people are, she's telling people, okay, I'm having fibroid issues. The potential cancer issue, once you're in these spaces, you don't have rights over your own body. (16:45) So the experiments and the biopsies and the whatever else are also taking place in these spaces. And so that's where she was when all of this transpired, grabbing her cells, studying her cells. If you knew the cells could give us the cancer treatments that we have today, were you actually trying to treat her or were you trying to advance science? And so we have to start looking at who were some of the black doctors that were there, who were the other universities? You have universities that are attached to these asylums. And so it's not just, even if you're talking to Tuskegee, it's not just Tuskegee as the area, it's Tuskegee, the university, it's Howard or it's me, Harry. It's black institutions as well. And you have to look at this. Some of this is a class issue, but it's always a consciousness issue. You all right? Wilmer Leon (17:40): And just so people know that Henrietta Lacks, she was the first African-American woman whose cancer cells are the of the hela cell line, which is the first immortalized human cell line, and one of the most important cell lines in medical research. And a lot of people made a lot of money, Shantella Sherman (18:05): Still are Wilmer Leon (18:06): Hundreds of millions of dollars off of her body. And up until recently, her family did not receive any type of compensation for the illegal use of her body. And I want to put it in the context of body because when you talk about cells and people go, oh, cells, what the hell? No, it was her body that they used to create an incredibly valuable, some would say invaluable. You really can't even put a value on it. And up until recently, her family, I can see you want to go ahead. Go ahead. Shantella Sherman (18:52): Well, when you start talking about the value of black bodies, we can go currently, as of last year, the children that were involved, there was a situation in Philadelphia, 1985 where it was a group of what they called militant resistant black folks, the Africa Family Wilmer Leon (19:12): Move Shantella Sherman (19:12): Movement community. They were in a lovely community. And so they had this move project that they were doing, this is their thing. And you had a black mayor at this point who said, Wilmer Leon (19:23): William, good, Shantella Sherman (19:24): There you go, mayor. Wilmer Leon (19:26): Good. Who was bad? Shantella Sherman (19:28): I'm sick of having to deal with this. And instead of charging the house which had children in his whole family communal type of space, he said, let's drop a bomb, get a helicopter to drop a bomb on the house. Which of course ended up spreading. It tears up the entire neighborhood. But here's the point with this, two of the children that died in the bombing, somehow their bodies were sold given over to the University of Pennsylvania for study for research. Because the idea is, is there a difference in the brain and the mentality of a resistant black family and their children, their progeny that we need to be aware of? So now you have a university studying the brains and the body parts of dead children. The family does not know. The family did not know until last year that the university didn't even know that the bodies were sitting on the shelf Now Wilmer Leon (20:30): Because some of the other children survived and are now in their thirties and forties. Absolutely. Shantella Sherman (20:36): Absolutely. Absolutely. So they had to give those but become, we're going to give you the bodies back so they can be interred. What were you doing with these children? You were studying them, you're studying them not just as cadavers. They were being used in the classroom for what purpose though? And so I think that we need to really grapple with the fact that there's a value to black bodies, even if there's not a value to black people. The culture is amazing and this and this, but there is a value to black bodies that we don't talk about. And so there are folks that are, you have dollar signs on you when they see you, they have dollar signs on your womb, they have dollar signs on you as you matriculate through life and you navigate different systems. And the goal is to extract as much as possible while we are just kind of not paying attention to any of it. Wilmer Leon (21:34): There is the adage, you are a product of your environment. And so people will look at me, look at you. And how did you all become PhDs? Well, they haven't met your mother. I've had the blessing. They haven't met your parents. They haven't met my parents. We are products of our environment. So when you look at the children in the Africa family from move in Philadelphia, those children, there was nothing biologically different that made them one way or another. They were products. They were raised a certain way just as they want to talk about black on black crime, ignoring the fact that crime occurs everywhere. You tend to commit crime in the space that's closest to you against those that are closest to you. And that poverty is one of the greatest contributors to a criminal element. Not psychosis, not phenotype. And final point as they talk about black crime, who did the mafia commit most of its crime against other Italians? Who did the Polish Mafia? Who did the Russian mob? Who does the Israeli mob commit crime against those that are closest to them, but we don't understand it in that context. Shantella Sherman (23:19): Wiler, I'm going to throw this in here real quick. The University of Pennsylvania has a long history of studying black folks, especially ones that they consider to be degenerate types. For years, I did a series for Acumen Magazine called the Crack Baby Turns 30. And it looked at a study, a longitudinal study that the University of Pennsylvania was doing where they actually studied the children, the newborn babies that were left at the hospital by women who were crack addicted at that point. And they had these terrible lines in their notes saying things like, these children don't look you in the face. They are born with a pathology. They will be criminals and they will be murderers. And they don't even cry like real babies. They're like animals, okay, 30 years on and they're studying these kids every month 30 years later, they come back and say, each one of those children provided they were given to an aunt, a grandparent or someone else, and they were loved on and taken care of. (24:21) They turned out just fine. None of them have been in prison. None of them have committed crimes. None of them have had out welock babies, most of them. I think they said 90% of them have been to college. Alright. So it automatically tells you that the nature versus nurture is really just a dream. It's a dream sequence in some madman's laboratory where you're going to try and make a case by creating an environment where you're defunding this and unhinging people and then saying, this is a self-fulfilling prophecy or this is all about the numbers and these are the stats and this is where this goes. And it is simply not true. Wilmer Leon (25:04): Some may have heard me tell this story before, but nature versus nurture, really quick example, I went to a private Catholic high school in Sacramento, Christian brothers high school and had to pay tuition to get there. So whether it was hook or by crook, I can obviously afford to be there. I'm there. So the guidance counselor at the time, Mr. Patrick O'Brien sees me wearing a Hampton sweatshirt and I'm walking down the hall and he says, Wilmer, what is that? And I said, oh, this is the sweatshirt from the college I'm going to go to. And he says, you're going to college? I said, yeah, Mr. O'Brien, I'm going to college. He said, Wilmer, have you ever thought about trade school? I said, no, I have never thought about trade school. He says, well, why not? I said, because honestly, Mr. O'Brien, I don't want to have to take the ass whooping that I'm going to take if I go home and tell my parents I'm not going to college. Now there's nothing against going to trade school, but in my house. Shantella Sherman (26:13): Exactly. Wilmer Leon (26:14): That was not an option, Shantella Sherman (26:16): Not one. So Wilmer Leon (26:21): It was all a matter of environment. And so people look at my son now who just graduated from Hampton, and the boy understands he has two options, conform or perish. So it's not a miracle, it's an environment. It's a level of expectation that is set. It's a matter of standards that must be maintained and understanding if you follow the path, life is great. If you deviate from the path, you might have a problem on your hands and you have to make a decision, do I want this problem or do I? That's all. Am I wrong? Shantella Sherman (27:12): No, I mean it's spot on. And I think that again, we understood this 50 years ago in a way that we are not passing that information down now. So the fact that someone can come to me now with eugenic thoughts and tell me if a black child hasn't learned to read by the time they're in the third grade, they have automatically lined themselves up to go to prison. Who came up with that foolishness? Wilmer Leon (27:38): Wait a minute, I'm one of those kids. I'm one kids. Shantella Sherman (27:45): Come on now. Wilmer Leon (27:46): I was reading well below grade level when I was in the third grade and they had shifted, and that was the time when they had shifted how they were teaching reading away from phonics to sight words. Fortunately for me, my parents, we had a very dear friend, Mrs. Bode, Mrs. Gloria Bode, who was a reading specialist, she would come to the house three times a week after dinner. She taught me phonics. And within Goy, it wasn't even a month, I went from reading below the third grade level in third grade to reading at the seventh grade level. All she did was teach me phonics. Shantella Sherman (28:40): Exactly, exactly. So the fact that you can add fake science over here with the eugenic themes, add it to policy, trickle it into the school system, add some funding issues with this, it's like I need you to understand that's what public libraries are for. I need you to understand that every child learns at a different rate. I need you to understand that if there's calamity all around this child outside in the neighborhood, they're not listening for concentration purposes and it may be hindering them. There are things that we knew and we knew how to meet those challenges to ensure that the children in this great space would be able to matriculate. We haven't gone bonkers. So why is it that we are feeding into this and actually accepting that it's true? And then getting on television and saying yes, as a black psychologist, it is true that if black kids don't start reading, you have black people who don't know how to read until they are adults, but they've never committed crimes and they didn't turn into degenerates. So why are we leaning this 10 toes down? It really is a fact. Wilmer Leon (29:47): I know some of those people who became very productive individuals and education became very, very important for them because they understood the value of what they didn't have. And they instilled in their children who went on to college and went on to get master's degrees and other advanced degrees, and many of those kids didn't even realize until after they got out of school that their parents couldn't even read. Shantella Sherman (30:13): Many people went to their graves as black people and white people who never learned to read period, but that was not a part of their character. If you can't read, you're automatically going to become a criminal. That's not the way this works. It's not the way it works. So the fact that we bought into this again tells me that we're moving back into these eugenic themes without, it's the popular social eugenics that the average everyday person is just like, yeah, that makes sense. It does not. Wilmer Leon (30:43): It only makes sense if you don't have any sense. So moving into these popular eugenics themes, getting to now the question that I opened the show with, how does the false construct of race and yes, race is a false construct or the real constructs of culture and cultural identity factor into our opposition to or support for a political candidate. And that all centers around, and I'll state the obvious here at right now, the presumed democratic nominee, Kamala Harris, whose father is Jamaican, whose mother is Indian, and she in some circles is considered to be an African-American woman. I've heard her referred to as such. I've also heard her in many current commercials referred to as an Indian-American woman. And I want to stress this is not a judgmental conversation. Shantella Sherman (31:54): No. Wilmer Leon (31:55): Let me throw it to you, Dr. Sherman. Shantella Sherman (31:59): The issue at hand warmer is that however many of those boxes she chooses to check that show diversity or Wilmer Leon (32:06): Check for her Shantella Sherman (32:08): Either way, either way, all of those lend themselves to the greater eugenic conversation, which is she is non-white. Okay, 1924, racial integrity, that act coming out of Virginia said there are only two races. Skip the Monga, Loy Caucusi. We're going to scratch all of that. There are only two races, white and non-white and the fact that she's also female, that's another thing that we have to deal with. Public perception, American public perception, sometimes global public section of what it means to be any of these things or an amalgamation of all of these things. And some people may be offended by the term amalgamation, a mixture. We're all a mixture of a bunch of other things. What does that mean? And so each one of these people who are definitive about whiteness and Americanism and patriotism, they're questioning as they did with Obama citizenship. They're questioning her womanhood at this point. They're questioning as Wilmer Leon (33:15): They did with Michelle Obama. Shantella Sherman (33:17): Exactly. They're questioning. But on this side, how many kids does Kamala have? And then the fact that, Wilmer Leon (33:26): Didn't JD Vance call her a cat woman because she doesn't have any biological children of her own? Shantella Sherman (33:31): What is that exactly? Wilmer Leon (33:34): Wait a minute. I got to mention when I mention his name, we always must say for those who don't know, JD Vance is now Donald Trump's vice presidential nominee. He's the same guy who about three years ago compared Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. So one has to ask the question, how does the guy who three years ago called another guy Adolf Hitler, wind up standing next to that guy as his vice presidential nominee. He didn't even call him Mussolini. He called him Hitler Shantella Sherman (34:07): And pay attention to the fact that when Kamala, Kamala was named as Joe Biden's running mate, once again, I heard the senator call say, okay, now we are going to have aunt your mama in the White House. This woman doesn't look like aunt your mama, no connections whatsoever. But all of a sudden this is what folks are thinking of you in these spaces all along. And so the nastiness of it starts to come out the thing. Wait Wilmer Leon (34:40): A minute, and that takes me to Tiger Woods when he first won the master's tournament and the year after the master's tournament, the winner gets to determine the menu for the player's dinner. And Fuzzy Zeller says, oh, we going to have fried chicken tonight. Shantella Sherman (34:58): Fried chicken and watermelon. Wilmer Leon (35:00): There you go. Shantella Sherman (35:01): Yeah. So again, my question is if we are that removed from the plantation at this point, why are you constantly trying to throw people back onto it? Or these are the only references that you're coming up with when you can clearly see in front of you that this isn't the case, it's the Fair State University, their whole thing, their memorabilia collection that they have of racist items that came up 1870 and moving forward. And it was like while we are saying they're racist, these are the things that keep peace in many white minds. I need an anama salt and pepper shaker. I need an anama cookie jump. I need to put her face on the pancake box. I need to have two little black kids as the icons or the folks that I'm using for gold dust soap powder and for this and for that and for the other. (36:00) And so in researching how labels and emblems and mascots were created, you start to find that when white people feel uncomfortable in this country, they tend to hold onto the things that they did love about black people. And so that hasn't changed. We're going to show Kamala dancing and we're going to show her doing all of these things, loving cats, the things that make white people feel good and feel comfortable and feel wholesome and feel whole. She is a part of our group. And at the same time you have black people who are going, but she's married to someone who's not black. Wilmer Leon (36:40): I was asked that question, I won't mention the woman's name who said to me, Wilmer, why do black men, Hey Kamala Harris. And I said, I don't know that black men do hate Kamala Harris. I haven't seen any data. I said, but let me pose this to you. Why does she hate black men? And it was what I said, well, she didn't marry her brother. And I said, so I'm not equating the fact that she didn't marry a brother to say that she hates black men. I am just posing that as a ridiculous premise to your ridiculous premise and riddle me that and I couldn't get an answer. Shantella Sherman (37:28): No, we are still stuck in an antebellum mindset. Many folks are just still stuck there. And so it doesn't make sense that I can walk into a room and someone is waiting for me to flip some pancakes or am I the cleaning lady? Am I here for any type of servant position? Nothing wrong with servants, but when you visually look at a person and you start to assess them, not my character, not any of these other things, but sight, you're seeing me for the first time. If your reaction is to put me into this particular position, you need to ask yourself why. This is something that as the commander in chief, potential commander in chief of this country, that she's going to have to face down in the same way that President Obama had to. But she's also going to have this added level of this is a female who does not have children and all of these other, she's suspicious to folks. She's suspicious to the nation. And that is simply unfair and it's unfounded, but it's how we do things here a lot of times. Wilmer Leon (38:40): So let's take the other side of this because when she first announced that she wanted to be president in this, after Joe Biden stepped down, the narrative was she's earned it. She deserves it. I think it was Simone Sanders Townsend who was saying, and some of her other surrogates who were saying, what does the Democratic, what problem does the Democratic party have with wanting a black woman at the top of the ticket? It was all about her being an AKA. She went to Howard and she can do the electric slide. We were falling into that same mindset in terms of rallying the troops around her instead of asking the questions, where does she stand on Gaza? What's she going to do about Ukraine? What's her policy on Cop city? Where is she on the George Floyd Act and policy issues? And when we started listing policy issues and wanting her to articulate where she stands on policy, then the question becomes, why are you hating on the sister? Why do you hate black women? No, I don't hate black women. I know that AKAs Howard University and I have two degrees from Howard, so I ain't hating on Howard and being able to do electric slide that ain't going to feed the bulldog. Shantella Sherman (40:16): Well, and the truth of the matter, I don't believe our percentage is 13% still because it's just not fathomable we've been producing. So I'm going to say the black population is country. Let's say it's at about 18% right now. Alright? You still have the whole rest of the country that to some extent mentally and emotionally, you're going to have to reunite in the same way Obama had to reunite them because they had blown apart with even the thought of having a black man in office. Okay, you're going to have to suture us back together. Wilmer Leon (40:54): Donald Trump was the reaction to Barack Obama. Shantella Sherman (40:58): Absolutely. And the belief that even at this point, I still have people saying, Barack Obama is running the White House behind Biden all this time. And I'm going, are you serious? So it doesn't matter the truth. The truth doesn't matter at this point. It's what you feel. And I'm telling people it's not about what you feel. Your feelings don't enter into the facts at this point. Thank you. I need you to start talking about the fact that the housing in this country is so deliberately greedy and ridiculous that working people are living in homeless shelters. All right? I need you to talk. College Wilmer Leon (41:33): Professors in California are living in their cars. Shantella Sherman (41:38): I need you. And this is across the country and quite frankly across the globe. So I need you to talk to me about investing and divesting in certain things. I need to know where Kamala stands on certain things. I haven't really heard. I don't know what her platform is on certain things. I would love to have someone talk to her rather than having Megan thee stallion up dancing with her. I don't care about that. I don't want to hear about that right now. You're telling me people are blowing me up about Project 2025, which by the way is nothing but the NATO group and some other folks from 1925 still trying so much conservative policy. This isn't new. Wilmer Leon (42:14): It's not new. It's called New Gingrich's Contract with America. Shantella Sherman (42:18): Thank you. Nothing on that list is new. Nothing on it is new. So it's like even if it were true, and I understand that a lot of it is not true. It wasn't in the 880 page document that most people haven't read. When I started sifting through it, it was like that didn't happen. That's not in the document. That's not there. These are proposals. And do you know how many think tanks put out proposals every time there's about to be a change of leadership? So it's like don't get up in arms. This is something that we always face. But in the meantime, can you tell me where if this were something that was about to take place, where are your local leaders positioned on this? Because we got Biden in office right now, but you still can't afford to get a bag of potato chips for less than $4 or $5 right now. What is going on with the cost of living and the American dream? Why are you having corporations buying up housing so that the average person can't afford 'em? Wilmer Leon (43:10): BlackRock, Shantella Sherman (43:12): Help me out. Wilmer Leon (43:14): People don't understand that As a result of the Covid crisis and the mortgage crisis and all of these homes that people were put out of BlackRock and other venture capitalist companies were buying up the housing stock and they weren't putting the housing stock back on the market for sale. They were putting the housing stock back on the market for rent. Absolutely Shantella Sherman (43:45): For rent. And if you're charging, there's nothing, I'm going to say it on the record, there's nothing inside Washington DC that's worth $5,000 a month as a two bedroom apartment. Nothing. Nowhere in this city is it worth it. But those are the going rates. And so we can look at this. Go ahead, I'm Wilmer Leon (44:02): Sorry. And as Vice President Harris is on the stump saying, Donald Trump is a convicted felon. And as a former prosecutor, I know how to deal with felons. I know that personality well, when you had Steve Mnuchin in your sights when he was the bankster in California and your staff brought you a thousand felonies committed by the man, you didn't pursue the case against Steve Mnuchin who wound up being our Secretary of Treasury under Donald Trump. So don't hate Malcolm said, when my telling you the truth makes you angry, don't get angry at me. Get angry at the truth. I don't do the electric slide. I'm not an A KAI am in the divine nine, but I don't do that. And so those things don't matter to me, Dr. Sherman, Shantella Sherman (45:00): It's going to have to matter to us what the policies and standpoints are that Kamala Harris brings to the table. I just want to know her positions on things. I have the lesser of two evils true as it appears, and I believe she would make a wonderful president, but I would love to know where she stands on all of these issues that are also international issues that are also, I've been trying to get someone from the state of California, a representative, and I don't have to call the person's name to talk to me about the sterilizations that are being forced on black and Spanish women inside California penitentiaries for the last eight years. And I can't get a callback. So I want you to understand that it's not about blackness. It's about I need you to make sure that my American dream isn't a nightmare, that you get to blame on Donald Trump or anybody else. We have black elected officials. We're not holding anyone accountable and we're not holding them accountable from the moment we elect them. You're not asking the proper questions, and so you Wilmer Leon (46:04): Won't get the right answer. Shantella Sherman (46:06): I want Kamala Harris to win. I put on the T-shirt, all of that. But in the meantime, I want to know where she stands on some things that impact my quality of life and the quality of life for the folks who are around me. I've crossed 50 years old at this point, so I'm trying to figure out if I had to go lay down and retire somewhere, is there a patch of dirt in the woods for me that you want going to then come through and arrest me for being homeless on and lock me up for it? That's a reality. They're locking up homeless people. It's their laws in certain states now. And these states have black representatives. No one's talking about this. We are talking about the suits that people are wearing and their connections and affiliations with other things that don't benefit us at the moment. Wilmer Leon (46:51): And rappers Shantella Sherman (46:52): Well, and just while you dancing, when it comes time to pick your kid up from the daycare center, are you going to find out that they've raised the rates? So you got to pay $3,500 a month for the kid to go to the daycare? Wilmer Leon (47:04): And two things. One is we keep hearing that we can't afford to provide quality daycare to people across the country, but we can send a trillion dollars to Ukraine. See, budgets are numeric representations of priority. Shantella Sherman (47:26): And also add to that, even if we didn't have the money, we had the consciousness, we had the heart to say that the grandmother in the neighborhood who was opening her home should still be able to do that without being licensed to a point where she has to pay $2,500 to the city and go to a class for eight. She raised 10 kids and 15 grandkids. She knows what she's doing. You've kept us from being able to have that communal space. Now that's not just, I want some money that's being vindictive. You're setting up the parameters, the variables that are going to lend to the things that you're talking about as black people and poor people. You're creating poverty. That's what you're doing right now. Wilmer Leon (48:11): Norway can do it, Finland can do it. Denmark can do it. They're doing it. Shantella Sherman (48:19): Anyone who is for their citizens can and will do it. The difference here is that we're not working together. We've always been fighting against each other. It's the infighting. I want my kids to be able to have it, but not your kids. I don't want immigrant kids. I don't want my kids around the Spanish kids. They're going to learn Spanish and it's too many of 'em and they're undocumented and they can have diseases, and I don't know what they're into. Well, the same thing was said about black people coming into white spaces. So if we're going to do America, we got to do America for everyone, and we got to make sure that these policies don't hurt this person in order to make me feel better. And in the long run, end up hurting me as well. Wilmer Leon (48:58): My current piece is you're with her, but is she with you? And the premise of the piece is, and I say this in the piece, it's not about her. It's about us. And what are we going to demand of her relative to us? Because that's what policy politics is all about. It's about policy output. It's not about the Divine nine and Howard University and the electric slide. It's about policy output. She went to the Cara comm meeting as vice president and try to convince the leaders of those Caribbean nations to be the minstrel face on American imperialism to invade Haiti. How does a black woman whose father is from Jamaica believe that our invading Haiti is a good idea? She didn't go alone. She went with Hakeem Jeffries and some other folks, Linda Thomas Greenfield. How do these black people, how do these black people buy into imperialist, neo-colonial policies like that? And so I make that to take us back to the eugenics question and the identity Shantella Sherman (50:26): Question, and I'll throw that to you because it's all about the fitness of the individual person or the group. And so Haiti has always been the bastard black child that even black folks don't want to claim a small minority of black folks always down for Haiti, always. I'm there with you. But there are all these people who are still, you want to glamorize Africa, but you won't set foot there. You want to go to Africa, but you don't want to stay there. You don't understand the politics, the culture, the language, the faith, none of it. But since it's been tagged onto you as African-American, you claim it. But again, when you get down to it, we still have eugenic thoughts as black people about who is fit and unfit, who is worthy, who is unworthy. And it's about nothing related to character. It is about nothing related to morality or how people handle you or them being good people. (51:27) It's all about the same things that white people use the litmus test to define you. And so we cannot get away from that as easily as we think and things like this. When we get into a space like this, it magnifies it and we start to see ourselves and it does not look good. It doesn't look good on us at all. Haiti, poor black people, folks living in the projects historically by colleges and universities, not the elite eight, the big eight, but the rest of 'em, the ones that we don't really want to talk about this in them other states that we don't want to deal with, alright? We don't want to deal with that. There are things that we need to discuss to make sure that HBCUs and the Divine Nine still exists. If the federal government starts pulling money back. We've had the heirs desegregation case. (52:20) We've had a similar case in Maryland where basically HBCUs are being said to be anti-white at this point. And in order to get the money that these HBCUs won for having been discriminated against with funding, it's being said, in order to get the money, you now have to have five to 10% of your student population be minority. That minority has to be white. So now you are giving free education to white students in order to get the money that's owed to you from having been discriminated against in the first place. You have to understand in street terms, we've been in a trick bag for a minute, right? And we need to stop playing games. It's late in the day. You need to heal your line. Alright, I'm going back to Hurston. Heal your line. You need to understand that you're about to get caught up in the very trap that you've been setting and you're not paying attention. You're simply not paying attention. We haven't been paying our alumni fees like we're supposed to. Our schools are still dependent on federal government funding and state funding. We are not standing alone. So we need to make sure that our leadership also understands that, that we need to have practical solutions and policies so that we're not reacting to things, but literally charting a course and setting it and staying on that course. Wilmer Leon (53:44): What are you demanding? And two things to your point about funding and HBCUs, the HBCUs in Maryland won a case against the Maryland government for not properly funding those HBCUs. As the state had funded, the predominantly white institutions went all the way to Maryland Supreme Court and the schools won. The Republican governor, Larry Hogan refused to give them the money that the court awarded and forced those institutions to negotiate a lower number. I don't remember what the numbers were off the top of my head, but Shantella Sherman (54:33): What? Yes, sir. What again? The exact same thing happened in Mississippi. And that's why I said that was the heirs desegregation case. And it was the exact same thing. The money that came down to fund the Mississippi schools, they gave the HBCUs less money when they disseminated. And it was like, okay, Mississippi won the HBCUs won the case, but the content, the little fine print said, we are going to give you the money, but now you are required at this point to add 10% of your population needs to be minority on a black campus that's not black students. And they said, we can pull in some Africans and some people that still fit. No, you need to have some white students on this campus now. So that was the quote. That's how they got around it. And it was like, wow, these are the nasty tricks that I'm talking about. And so if it happened in Mississippi and it's happened in Maryland, where else is this happening? Can I get leadership to understand this is how you tie black hands behind the backs of citizens that actually want to go to school. Wilmer Leon (55:45): Final thing, symbolism. And again, I'm getting back to ethnicity and cultural identity as it relates to Vice President Harris. And I'm not picking on her, she just is the poster child of this in the moment because there's an awful lot of symbolism that is being used here. And again, they rather be symbolic than talk about substantive policy output. Shantella Sherman (56:22): The symbolism goes to the heart of the nation. Whose nation is it? Whose America is it that's which one of the presidents? Wilmer Leon (56:39): Well, you mean we want, we want, oh Shantella Sherman (56:41): No, no, Coolidge, Calvin Coolidge. Okay, whose country is it anyway? And so you literally, you're having white Americans say, this is ours and we've allowed you to be here, Wilmer Leon (56:56): Tom Tancredo, and we want, and the Tea Party, which was the precursor to Donald Trump. We want our country back. Shantella Sherman (57:06): So again, but how have you lost it? Wilmer Leon (57:09): Who has it? Because I don't have it. Tom Tan credo. If you're listening, if you're watching, I don't have your country. Shantella Sherman (57:18): And again, so that's how you start again. You're going to see an explosion of language about women having babies and birth control and all this. And again, it's this. They're having natal conferences once or twice a year where people are talking about we need to get the country back. And getting the country back means we need white women to have babies and they're not having them. And so based on that alone, any white female who's out here supporting Donald Trump and all of these policies, they don't necessarily understand what you're about to do is send yourself back into the house because there's a good white man that needs the job that you're sitting in. You need to be producing babies bottom line. And if you're not, you serve no purpose. Now to the nation, that is a Hitler esque thing, but Hitler got it from us. So that is a Francis Galton thing. Wilmer Leon (58:11): In fact, thank you very much because you and I had talked about that Francis Galton father of modern eugenics, there's a book Control the Dark History and troubling present of Eugenics just by Adam Rutherford. Talk about Francis Galton and talk about Adam Rutherford's book. Shantella Sherman (58:32): Just the idea First Rutherford's book is an amazing examination. I think that it's something that pulls together a lot of the research from different spaces and different years and to synthesize it the way he has it makes it make sense to the average person, which is critical at this point. It's not talking above folks head. So you get to the critical analysis of we need these birthing numbers. Statisticians started coming in and Galton is right here in the middle of this. And you have the eugenics record office who are literally charting birth rates and they're trying to figure out with immigration, emancipated black people. And then you end up with Chinese people and all these other folks that are coming in. And then you start having women who decide they're not going to stay at home. These rates matter and they have mattered for the last 150 years because whoever has the birth numbers, when we start talking politics, these are voting blocks. (59:32) And if I can put you under duress, if I can incarcerate you and then tell you based on the fact that you're in prison, you are no longer a citizen, so you are not able to vote because you have a felony charge. That is a reality for those black men who are huddled in prisons. But the other part of that reality is that because during the reproductive height of their lives, they're in prison, it means that they're not reproducing children. And so there's a duality to having black men and Spanish men and locked into these prisons and degenerate white men. We don't want babies from them anyway. Wilmer Leon (01:00:08): And the fastest growing cohort in prisons are women. Shantella Sherman (01:00:13): And when the women go into the prisons, they are automatically taken before what used to be the sterilization board. They're given a physical examination. If you're a black woman, a Spanish woman, and you have fibroids, they're going to tell you, we're not going to manage your fibroids while you're here. We're just going to recommend that you have a hysterectomy. Or they may not even tell you. So great documentary Belly of the Beast looks at the California state Penitentiary system and they're just ad hoc deciding to sterilize black and Spanish women without their consent and without their knowledge because they said, once we open you up, it's easier just to go ahead and snip you than to worry about having to pay for your children, either ending up in prison, being slow and retarded mentally having to go to special schools or having to pay through the welfare system because they're not normal. Because you're not normal. You're breeding criminals. And so we have to look at these things. I think Rutherford did a great job, but Galton has been talking about, he started talking about this when he coined the phrase, we were already talking about this and the black bodies on plantations started this whole, let's check the women's bodies and see what they can manage and hold as far as their fecundity, as far as they're being able to breed the next crop of Americans. Wilmer Leon (01:01:28): Are those eugenic practices relative to women of color in California? Prisons still going on as you and I are speaking right now. Shantella Sherman (01:01:38): Absolutely. Wilmer Leon (01:01:40): So our vice president, Kamala Harris, who is the presumptive Democratic Party nominee is from Berkeley, was the DA in San Francisco, was the attorney general in the state of California, was the senator from California. I haven't heard anybody ask her this question. Shantella Sherman (01:02:05): I have not heard anyone ask Wilmer Leon (01:02:10): Anybody Shantella Sherman (01:02:10): Elected official. You've only had the Congressman Ell from North Carolina who got reparations for folks who had been sterilized, many of them black in North Carolina. He's since passed away. Virginia asked that people come forward if they had been sterilized, but people couldn't come forward because they didn't know they'd been sterilized. You took them in and told them that they had an appendicitis. So they didn't know that the reason why they didn't produce children is because when they went into the hospital, you decided to do a hook and crook on 'em. They didn't know. So based on just that information, you have very few people in the state of Virginia to come forward and to receive the money. California is now offering some reparations to folks. But if you're in those penal systems, it's still going on. You don't have control over your body. Wilmer Leon (01:03:08): And I want to be very clear to say, I'm not for those that just heard me ask that question and Wilmer, why are you blaming her for this? I'm not. I'm saying I haven't heard anyone ask her this question again because it's not about her. It's about us. And what are we as a political constituency? What are we going to do? What are we going to demand? What are we going to get if we are responsible for putting her in office, which everybody says Democrats can't win without black people. Speaker 4 (01:03:55): Okay, Wilmer Leon (01:03:56): All right. Speaker 4 (01:04:00): Again, I think that she would make an amazing president again. I simply want to know what her policies are. I want to know how she's going to fight against and how she's sizing up her time in office. And that's what I want to hear from her. That's it. Wilmer Leon (01:04:19): Dr. Chantel Sherman, I am so appreciative of you joining me today, as always, dear. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, Speaker 4 (01:04:27): Thank you. Anytime, Wilmer Leon (01:04:29): Folks, thank you all so much for listening and watching the Connecting the Dots podcast with me, Dr. Wilmer Leon, and my brilliant, brilliant friend and guest, Dr. Chantel Sherman. Stay tuned for new episodes each week. Also, please follow and subscribe. Leave a review, share the show, would greatly, greatly appreciate it. Follow me on social media. You can find all the links below to the show there. And remember, folks, that this is where the analysis of politics, culture, and history converge talk without analysis is just chatter. And you can tell by this, we don't chatter on connecting the dots. See you all again next time. Until then, I am Dr. Wier Leon. Have a great one. Peace.

This is our after show interview with Open Mike Eagle (The New Negroes) & Mike Benner (Bob's Burger) about their pilot Principle. Mike and Mike developed Principle for Comedy Central wanting to explore the differences between a rapper's public and private persona. In this interview, you'll hear them talk about their comedy and hip hop influences, Open Mike's move from rapper to comedy writer/rapper and the process of pitching and developing a rap show for Comedy Central.  If you'd like to support our podcast, now is the time. It's MaxFunDrive; the one time of year where listeners like you can directly support our podcast. Your support is what allows us to keep putting out dead pilot after dead pilot. Help us out for as little as $5 a month.  MaxFunDrive ends on March 29, 2024! Support our show now by becoming a member at maximumfun.org/join.

We have a hilarious MAX FUN DRIVE episode for you!  It's the table read for Principle written by Open Mike Eagle (The New Negroes) & Mike Benner (Bob's Burgers) recorded LIVE at THE ELYSIAN THEATER! Principle was sold to Comedy Central. It's about a rapper trying to change his life and image but keeps being pulled back into the gangster character that made him famous. This show should be on the list along with Atlanta and Dave of the great television hip hop comedy of the last decade but alas it never it never made it to air. It's only available here on Dead Piltos Society and Dead Pilots Society only exists because of listeners like you  becoming Maximum Fun members. Your support is what keeps this podcast going. You can become a member for as little as $5 a month by going to maximumfun.org/joinPrinciple stars Open Mike Eagle, Shakira Ja'nai Paye, Tawny Newsome, Langston Kerman, Jamel Johnson, Paul F. Tompkins, Phil Lamarr, Aaron Branch, Taylor Garron and Andrew Reich with stage directions. For more Dead Pilots Society episodes and information about our live shows, please subscribe to the podcast!Make sure to like us on Facebook, follow us on Instagram, and Twitter, and visit our website at deadpilotssociety.com MaxFunDrive ends on March 29, 2024! Support our show now by becoming a member at maximumfun.org/join.

One of my favorite comedians Baron Vaughn (Gracie and Frankie, The New Negroes) is here! Baron is an amazing comedian and actor is from Las Vegas, Nevada. He talks about growing up in Vegas, theories on early jokes, what it means to be classicaly trained, and his favorite cartoons. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Experts are a dime a dozen, but true expertise is hard to come by. In this week's episode, both of our storytellers – who shared their stories at our annual Proton Prom fundraiser this week – struggle with finding the knowledge they seek. We're especially grateful to the Burroughs Wellcome Fund for supporting the event and making this all possible. Part 1: When Zach Weinersmith agrees to create a trivia game, he doesn't realize how hard it is to come up with facts that are both interesting and actually true. Part 2: Concerned about his eyesight, comedian Josh Johnson desperately searches for a good doctor. Zach Weinersmith is a cartoonist, best known for making the comic strip SMBC. He co-authored the NYT bestselling pop science book Soonish, illustrated the NYT bestselling Open Borders. His work has been featured in too many places and society is the worse for it. Josh Johnson is a stand-up, Emmy-nominated writer, performer, and NAACP award-winner from Louisiana by way of Chicago. He is currently a writer on The Daily Show, and is a former writer and performer on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, where he made his late-night debut. Johnson is Comedy Central's ‘most watched comedian ever' with 40M+ views to date across their platforms. As a stand-up, Johnson performs at clubs, colleges, and festivals around the world. Johnson was named Comedy Central's “Comic to Watch” in 2015, a “New Face” at the Just for Laughs comedy festival in 2016, and “New York's Funniest” in 2018. Comedy Central released Johnson's first hour-long special #(Hashtag) in June 2021, and he taped his second hour-long special at The Bourbon Room in Los Angeles in May 2022, which is set to debut early 2023. Johnson's self-released comedy and music mixtape album Elusive, was described by Vanyaland as “live stand-up observational humor with musical compositions. Both elements wade in and out of political and social waters between the two “arcs” of the multi-genre epic". Johnson also co-hosts two podcasts, The Josh Johnson Show (with fellow stand-up Logan Nielsen) and Hold Up (with The Daily Show colleague Dulcé Sloan). Johnson's other credits include, CONAN (TBS), @Midnight, Kevin Hart's Hart of The City, The New Negroes, and This Week at The Comedy Cellar on Comedy Central. Johnson lives in New York and can be seen performing regularly at The Comedy Cellar. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Open Mike Eagle is a rap artist with albums such as Brick Body Kids Still Daydream, Anime Trauma & Divorce, and his latest, A Tape Called Component System with the Auto Reverse. He is from Chicago but now lives in Los Angeles, where he has a studio built into his home, and another room that looks an awful lot like a studio where we talked to him from. Mike tells us about how to soundproof a room and hook up a condenser and interface and microphone. It is also a good idea to own a surge protector to protect yourself against all the surges even though Mike hasn't had any of those. Open Mike Eagle used to be an elementary school teacher and he thinks Post Malone would make a better elementary school teacher than Drake would. Also, he tells us how to bother Guitar Center guys.If you are able to stay awake through this entire episode, you will know what you need for a home studio but if you aren't able to stay awake, you will get some sleep. You win either way.Hey Sleepy Heads, is there anyone whose voice you'd like to drift off to, or do you have suggestions on things we could do to aid your slumber? Email us at:  sleepwithcelebs@maximumfun.org.Follow the Show on:Instagram @sleepwcelebsTwitter @SleepWithCelebsTikTok @SleepWithCelebsJohn is on Twitter @johnmoe.John's acclaimed, best-selling memoir, The Hilarious World of Depression, is now available in paperback.Join | Maximum FunIf you like one or more shows on MaxFun, and you value independent artists being able to do their thing, you're the perfect person to become a MaxFun monthly member.

Baron Vaughn discusses his upcoming show at Just for Laughs Vancouver, his Comedy Central show The New Negroes with Baron Vaughn and Open Mike Eagle, his theatrical studies, wordplay, and getting into stand-up, agoraphobia and racism, comedy pigeonholes, America and Canada, future plans and much more. Supported by you on Patreon, Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad's Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S. and Black Women United YEG. Follow vish online.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Kari and James investigate the ghosting of Madison Shepard (Single Drunk Female, HBO's Barry) by a rockabilly boy we're calling "Johnny Bravo" You can find Madison on Instagram @madison_shepard Madison Shepard is a writer, comedian and actor. She has opened for Maria Bamford and Dulcé Sloan, and her standup was featured on WhoHaha, Funny or Die, and Buzzfeed. She can be seen in Comedy Central's The New Negroes, HBO's Barry, and she plays Gail on Freeform's new series Single Drunk Female. Kari can be found on Instagram @assadkarirocks or Twitter @kariassad You can follow this show on Instagram @kariassadghostdetective Kari Assad Ghost Detective is Cohosted, Recorded, Edited and Produced by James Hillmer @jdhillmer

This week, the guys are joined by comedian and writer Candice Thompson to tackle some non-romanic relationship secrets coviering roomates, neighbors, coworkers & friends with Benefits. And Candice reveals both her sqeaky clean and stinky sides. If "outside pants" means anything to you, then this is 100% the episode for you. Candice performs regularly at The Comedy Store and is a staff writer for Netflix and Comedy Central. You may have seen her on Late Night With Stephen Colbert, The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, Lights Out With David Spade, Roast Battle and New Negroes on Comedy Central, Joe Rogan Experience, Harry TV, NBC's Last Comic Standing, Bring the Funny, E!'s The Comment Section and Just For Laughs. She is the co-host of Nosy Neighbors podcast on Spotify. If you'd like a chance to hear your secret revealed on the podcast, you can submit your secret on our website: ConfessYourMess.us IG: @_AJGibson / @EmileEnnisJr / @ConfessYourMessPodcast Twitter: @AJGibson / @EmileEnnisJr / @ConfessPodcast Watch on YouTube From Straw Hut Media

Today's guest is Opey Olagbaju.Opey is a Comedian, Actor, and Writer from Los Angeles. He's been featured on Comedy Central, and written for “I Love You, America” and “The New Negroes.”In this episode, the two discuss: what moving to America from Nigeria was like (07:06), what pushed Opey to move to New York (26:30), and he tells the story of a long distance relationship gone wrong (1:01:20).AND SO MUCH MORE!Follow Opey: @swankyopey Follow the Pod: @fandfpodFor more content: www.adamtillercomedy.comIntro Music: “End of the World”, Travis ThompsonOutro Music: “.wavpool”, Jaga“Story Time Theme Song”, Tirey, Jake Allen, and Depressica.

David Byrne is a musician, composer, and producer, and the cofounder of the band Talking Heads. His recent acclaimed rock spectacle, American Utopia, toured the world and was adapted into a Broadway play as well as a concert film directed by Spike Lee. Byrne has received Academy, Grammy, and Golden Globe Awards, and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002.Open Mike Eagle has over a dozen solo and collaborative projects to his name. He is the founder of Auto Reverse Records and co-founder of The New Negroes, a standup-meets-music variety show that explores perceptions of Blackness. Eagle's most recent album, Anime, Trauma, and Divorce, was released last year.

In our very first guest episode Nika and Anya talk to comedian and actor Baron Vaughn (Grace and Frankie, The New Negroes) about what he's learned from his iconic co-stars, car accidents, panic attacks and the art of aiming for neutral. Hosted by Nika Lomazzo (@nikalomazzo) & Anya Volz (@anyavolz), produced by Elisa Coia. Follow the podcast @bestmistakespod and email your mistakes to bestmistakespod@gmail.com. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/bestmistakespod/message

Open Mike Eagle is an artist, runs a record label, recently launched podcast network, co-created The New Negroes on Comedy Central, & has a merchandise company. He also has a few podcasts of his own: Secret Skin & What Had Happened Was with DJ Prince Paul (both are linked below) & has appeared on many podcasts (I highly recommend his episode of Father Hood.) You may have seen him on SyFy, Adventure Time, Black Ice, or It’s a Party. We dig in to a little bit of what he does & answer listener & fan questions. Listen to & purchase his new album “Anime Trauma & Divorce” https://openmikeeagle.bandcamp.com/album/anime-trauma-and-divorce Follow Open Mike Eagle on social: Twitter: https://twitter.com/Mike_Eagle Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/open_mike_eagle/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mikeeagleraps Watch Call & Response on Blavity: https://youtu.be/wmPkoIMdHr8 Open Mike Eagle & Lizzo “Extra Consent” on The New Negroes: https://youtu.be/HslbuwTMhrw Merch Engine: https://shop.merchcentral.com/collections/merch-engine Explore Stony Island Audio podcasts (including Mike's podcasts): http://mikeeagle.net/stoneyisland Subscribe to Cherie Hu’s Water & Music: https://bit.ly/35eE11f Super Duty Tough Work Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2iFnRgQZRH7u0tpLgNN8OF Watch Video Dave’s music video for Tuesday: https://youtu.be/qstPRbgffm8 Open Mike Eagle on Father Hood Podcast: https://fatherhoodspod.com/ep-99-unapologetic-dad-trap-feat-open-mike-eagle/ Brain Study on Rappers: https://www.nature.com/news/brain-scans-of-rappers-shed-light-on-creativity-1.11835 #BTSPodcast music-specific episodes: https://bit.ly/3mwwLmW Support this podcast by becoming a monthly contributor at anchor.fm/btspodcast. Join Acorns (Acorns referral link: acorns.com/invite/L33KZP), sing up for HotelTonight using LCOOK61, and/or Soothe for in-home massages with LZLRZ. Use my promo code for Instacart for $5 off your first delivery: LCOOK5130 Follow #BTSPodcast on social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/btsthepodcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/btsthepodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/btsthepodcast/ Join the Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1720173561544455 --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/btspodcast/support

DC makes crispy chicken thighs with lemon a la Brooklyn's Canal House and then welcomes Open Mike Eagle (What Had Happened Was, The New Negroes) for a chat about air fryers and how nobody knows how they work, the tantalizing giveaways in 90s video game magazines, the rapidly diminishing appeal of eating Subway on tour, the enduring appeal of McDonalds and video game live-streamers, checking in on the conspiracy-theorist community, Mike's grandma, The Last Dance and how its timing may have affected American history, and a whole lot more. Recipe:  https://food52.com/recipes/35813-canal-house-s-chicken-thighs-with-lemon Lebanese Food Bank: https://donate.lebanesefoodbank.org  

Comic, actor, writer and host Candice Thompson (Lights Out with David Spade, The New Negroes) joins the show to talk about processing world events without standup as an outlet, feeling a responsibility to speak about race, not fitting into a "box" due to her appearance, her childhood, her spirit pastry, learning to be vulnerable, doing comedy with Tiffany Haddish and Kevin Hart, her podcast The Struggle with Candice Thompson and so much more. We also did a round of Just Me Or Everyone. Check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/alisonrosen     Buy Alison's Book: Tropical Attire Encouraged (and Other Phrases That Scare Me)  https://amzn.to/2JuOqcd You probably need to buy the HGFY ringtone! This show is brought to you EMBARK: http://embarkvet.com (use promo code BESTFRIEND to save 15%) Try Amazon Prime Free 30 Day Trial    

This week hosts Sam Bashor and DJ Wooldridge are joined by Ed Greer, from the Nerd GOAT podcast, Reboot It, and The New Negroes, to discuss how movies, TV shows, and comics influence society, how they can broaden their audiences worldview, and what they teach us about movements like Black Lives Matter. Check out more from Ed Greer! http://nerdgoatpodcast.com/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8o6NuUQLlA10GDyxkM5xZw Opportunities to support Black Lives Matter: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/ Don't forget to check out https://www.patreon.com/OnlyStupidAnswers to help support the show and receive EXCLUSIVE content!

Baron Vaughn (Grace & Frankie, The New Negroes) plays the harpsichord for Atsuko & they ponder about lost stories in history. Plus, kids! Baron thinks Atsuko is just the right type of person to have them.RATE LET'S GO, ATSUKO 5-STARS!Leave a fun comment & Atsuko will respond to it on air!BECOME A PATREON MEMBER & SUPPORT US TODAY:www.patreon.com/LetsGoAtsukoFOLLOW ATSUKO:https://twitter.com/atsukocomedyhttps://twitter.com/LetsGoAtsukohttps://www.instagram.com/atsukocomedyhttps://www.instagram.com/LetsGoAtsukowww.atsukookatsuka.comLET'S GO, ATSUKO! IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST:https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/lets-go-atsuko

Live from the quarantine the IMDweed gang is back and more stoned than ever! Kelly and Jon had on good bud and the wildly funny Richard Douglas Jones straight outta Memphis, Tennessee! Don't worry, we all were practicing very safe social distancing and were far, far, far away from each other. We talked about arguably one of the greatest comedic movies of all time Blazing Saddles. We mostly goofed around though because wow it is very easy to get stoned by yourself in the quar, I'm sure you guys know about this already. Very funny pod and very funny time. Watch the movie on Hulu then listen to this crazy fun pod! Some other fun stuff you can do during this quarantine is check out Richard's episode of the "New Negroes" on Comedy Central and check out his virtual mic streaming every Thursday at 9pm Central time on his YouTube channel.Follow Richard on instagram/twitter: @rdouglasjonesFollow Kelly on instagram/twitter: @hollyweirdoFollow Jon on instagram/twitter: @jon024durnellFollow IMDweed on instagram/twitter: @imdweed See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We Sang, we laughed, we talked with Denzel Washington, creative process and discussed who is the best “Batman.” Angelique is joined Kevin Avery, comedian, producer, and writer Kevin Avery (HBO's Last Week Tonight, The New Negroes, Totally Biased with W. Kamau Bell, The Jim Jefferies Show) on today's episode. WATCH: https://youtu.be/MLk2JZCHgI8  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In episode 135, the girls are joined by musician and comedian Open Mike Eagle. They talk about his upbringing in the south side of Chicago, discovering music and his rap crew, coming out to LA, finding comedy, and so much more! It's a great episode with a true legend! LISTEN TO HIS MUSIC AND WATCH HIS MUSIC VIDEOS! We ride out on his song Very Much Money. Follow him on Twitter at @Mike_Eagle and on Instagram at @open_mike_eagle. Watch his new show New Negroes on Comedy Central and check out his Patreon here! WE LOVE OPEN MIKE EAGLE! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers

Madison Shepard is a stand-up, writer, and actor. She’s appeared on Comedy Central’s The New Negroes. She’s performed at The S.F. Sketch Fest, Broke LA, and Laugh Riot Grrrl Festival. She studied acting at Los Angeles County High School for the Arts and The Royal Central School of Speech & Drama, in London. Madison is soon to release her debut EP “Goodnight Silverlake.” Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, and share! Here’s How » Join the I’m Not Joking community today: petermcgraw.org Peter McGraw Twitter Peter McGraw LinkedIn

This week's episode is brought to you by Stubhub. This week we bring you a live recording of our latest live event from the Stubhub New York office at 39th & Broadway. Host Lior Phillips is joined by indie rapper Open Mike Eagle. In addition to his hip-hop career, the Chicago-born, Los Angeles-based artist also podcasts, co-hosts the Comedy Central series The New Negroes, and even recently stepped into a professional wrestling ring. In addition to chatting about his time between the turnbuckles, Lior and Mike discuss his latest LP, Brick Body Kids Still Daydream, and the meritocracy of the rap world. Other topics include seeing Common as a teenager, rapping in the back of a KFC, the upcoming return of his Secret Skin podcast, and so much more. Head here for more info on Open Mike Eagle. For more from Lior Phillips and This Must Be the Gig, follow along on Instagram or Twitter, or like the show page on Facebook. Be sure to subscribe, rate, and review via Apple Podcast, Stitcher, Spotify, or wherever you find your podcasts. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

We talk to our favorite comedian Kevin Avery about the new blaxploitation throwback film, Dolemite is My Name starring Eddie Murphy. Kevin Avery is a brilliant comedian, producer, and writer—he's written on shows like HBO's Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, Totally Biased with W. Kamau Bell, and Comedy Central's The New Negroes with Baron Vaughn & Open Mike Eagle. We talk to Kevin about the legacy of blaxploitation, gender, race, and how marginalized groups have always found creative ways to get their work seen by the world. Whether Kevin is roasting Anasa or waxing poetic about the role of a comic storyteller today, he had us giggling til our faces hurt. Tell us what y'all think at @thebigwepodcast & check out Kevin's full bio in the show notes at thebigwepodcast.com

Ron and Ed talk to Emmy-winning writer Kevin Avery about his Nerd GOAT: Han Solo! A second look at one of our earliest GOATS, with a bit more canon under his belt. Kevin won an Emmy as part of the brilliant writing staff for LAST WEEK TONIGHT WITH JOHN OLIVER. He's the head writer on THE NEW NEGROES for Comedy Central, and is currently writing for the upcoming animated series THE GREAT NORTH. See Kevin perform at The Punch Line in San Francisco, Nov. 27 through Dec 1, and again in San Fran at Cobb’s over New Year’s. Follow @KevinAvery on Twitter and @KevinAveryComedy on Instagram, and check out his website www.kevinaverycomedy.com. — STANDUP ALERT: December 13-14, see Ron perform with the hilarious Ian Harris in his hometown of Albuquerque, New Mexico! Go to www.ianharriscomedian.com for details. — QUOTES: “If you’re world-weary, there’s a real world.” “Why didn’t Chewbacca have a dashiki? Wait a minute! WAIT A MINUTE. That would’ve worked just fine.” “In order to show how badass Han Solo is, they constantly make him fail.” “Quentin Tarantino was like ‘Why am I so scared right now?’ It’s because Gary Busey could die.” “Evel Knievel never learned to type, that’s why he broke so many f**kin’ bones.” “You will be hurt if you trust people. You WILL be. BUT. But. It’s worth it in the aggregate, at least.” — SUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREON! Amazing exclusive content and original art! SIGN UP FOR TOOTHBRUSHME.COM! Clean mouth. Clean planet. Dirt cheap. A lifetime-guaranteed handle and biodegradable toothbrush heads delivered direct to your door, for the same price you'd pay at a grocery store! JOIN OUR REVIEW CONTEST! We're trying to hit 173 reviews on Apple Podcasts! Our favorite(s) get access to select Patreon content! See Ed every Monday and Tuesday on the Screen Junkies Universe livestream! Catch Ron on Jack of All Nerds! Subscribe, rate and review Nerd GOAT on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app.

This week we are joined by one of the most interesting people in hip-hop culture, the host of Comedy Central’s The New Negroes, unapologetic art rapper Open Mike Eagle. Mike talks to us about his life and career, his mentors at Project Blowed, and we get deep into the intersection of comedy and hip-hop, an often uncomfortable pairing.

Comedian and actor Baron Vaughn talks to Andy Richter about his “scandalous” birth, finding his performative self in Las Vegas, trying not to pass down bad habits, and the timeline of his showbiz trajectory. Plus, Baron discusses finding permanence in fatherhood and creating the artistic space he wishes he’d had with his show “The New Negroes.” This episode is sponsored by Betterhelp (www.betterhelp.com/threequestions code: THREEQUESTIONS) and The Hilarious World of Depression.

Kevin Avery is a comedian, actor, and writer for TV. He’s written for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, The Jim Jeffries Show, The New Negroes, VH1’s Best Week Ever, and served as head writer on Totally Biased with W. Kamau Bell. Also with Kamau, he hosts Denzel Washington Is The Greatest Actor Of All Time Period. The title speaks for itself. In essence, Kevin’s pretty damned funny. He also recommends really good lunch spots. Kevin has lived and worked in San Francisco and New York, but it was in LA where we connected to chat about artistic collaboration, helplessness in love, the spiders that seem have taken residence in his apartment, and his process of writing. And before you ask: Yep, he answered Five Questions. Meet Kevin.

Oooh, this story is so good! Coming atcha this week is the fabulous Shalewa Sharpe. You know her from HBO’s “2 Dope Queens,” Comedy Central’s “The New Negroes,” and her own hilarious albums Stay Eating Cookies and So You Just Out Here? We’re chatting about small town weirdos, representing where you come from, the South vs. the North, and pitbulls. Here’s five words to describe this episode: get friendly with your neighbors.

Super producer Symone Baptiste stops by the Blackstage studio, and we talk about how she manages to complete all of her projects and how she stays focused in Hollywood when she's the only black woman in the room. We also discuss comedy changing, ADOS, immigrant parents, reparations, and her new short film 16,000 Dollars. Please follow Symone @symonejett, and check out her shows Sauce and The New Negroes. Follow Us! Symone Baptiste @symonejett Greg Edwards Twitter: @gregthegrouch Instagram: @gregcomedy GregComedy.com Bradlys Philoctete Facebook: Bradlys Philoctete Instagram: @classicbradlys Twitter: @BradlysComedy

This week, Danielle and Lindsey are joined by their long-absent co-host Mike Eagle! Aside from putting on a great television show The New Negroes, where has he been all this time? He’ll explain everything, including why the return of Hulk Hogan to WWE led to him swearing off the company for the foreseeable future. But luckily for us, All Elite Wrestling’s rise has provided him with a new televised wrestling product that he’s been able to enjoy and critique. He and the team will take a close look AEW’s latest show Fight for the Fallen. That includes what’s worked about the company’s single matches so far, why the tag matches haven’t quite clicked for some of us and why Jon Moxley’s connections with Frasier is so edifying. Hosted by Hal Lublin Danielle Radford, and Mike Eagle. Produced by Julian Burrell for Maximum Fun. If you want to talk about more wrestling throughout the week be sure to join us on Facebook and @TightsFights on Twitter and Instagram. If you liked the show, please share it with your friends and be sure to leave us a quick review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get podcasts.

Guest starring Open Mike Eagle, chatting open his Comedy Central show The New Negroes, plus brand new music. Rage Against The Machine – Bombtrack Brass Against – Wake Up Abstract Orchestra – Eye Marcos Valle – Distancia Children Of Zeus – No Sunshine Tomorrow (Sunset Version) Homeboy Sandman – West Coast Freddie Gibbs & Madlibe – Crime Pays Flying Lotus – All Spies Skinny Pelembe – Dreaming Is Dead Now Zaïd – HVMM (+Ma Mix) Ruru – Ether Váne – Afterthought Open Mike Eagle – Hymnal ft Sammus OME Interview – The New Negroes Pan Amsterdam – No Snare ft Open Mike Eagle OME Interview – Brick City Kids Open Mike Eagle – Radio Open Mike Eagle & Sammus – Racism 2.0 Juno – Closer Kayo & Mecca 83 – Before Dawn PREMIERE: Evabee – 1808 prod TMNMS PREMIERE: Geebz – Dissorder Terri Walker – Breakout Patsy Gallant – It’ll All Come Around Oscar Jerome – Gravitate Holy Hive – Oh I Miss Her So Alxndr London – Talking Drum A.Fruit – Make Them Shake Damon Locks – The Colors That You Bring Greg Foat – The Mage Váne – Air Hug Ami Dang – Raiments

En este episodio resenmoñamos tres discos, Che Noir - The Thrill of the Hunt 2, Joell Ortiz - BoxTalk y el soundtrack de The New Negroes. También hablamos de la historia de Helloween y su reunión y como siempre damos nuestras recomendaciones semanales. Además damos un top 5 de Megadeth como homenaje a Dave Mustaine.

Carolyn Castiglia and Shalewa Sharpe are standup comedians in NYC and co-hosts of the monthly comedy show Laying It Down with Carolyn & Shalewa—a glamorously exhausted showcase of life after 40 featuring standup from the city's finest talents, performed at Madame X in Soho. Carolyn has appeared on VH1, MTV, Comedy Central, and all over the New York club scene. And Shalewa has performed on HBO’s 2 Dope Queens and Comedy Central’s “The New Negroes,” she has a new comedy album out this year on Little Lamb Recordings, and she also performs and hosts all over New York City. In this episode of BUST’s Poptarts podcast, the two powerhouses open up about how doing standup over 40 has effected their careers, their relationships, and their hopes and dreams for the future.

This week the boyz are joined by rapper, comedian, and fellow dark weeb Open Mike Eagle to talk Death Parade! Check out The New Negroes on Comedy Central: http://www.cc.com/shows/new-negroes Follow us Twitter at @darkweebpod Follow us on Instagram at @darkweebpod Got a show you'd like for us to check out? Email us darkweebpod@gmail.com with your suggestions! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thedarkweeb/support

Ron and Producer Bill talk to Nerd GOAT's own Ed Greer about his GOAT: John Wick! Journey from Ed's secret origin to our most gonzo Battle Royale ever! Aside from hosting your favorite podcast, Ed is a twice-weekly contributor to SCREEN JUNKIES UNIVERSE (Mondays and Wednesdays) and a featured performer on Comedy Central's new hit showcase THE NEW NEGROES. His signature blend of intelligence and wit graces comedy stages and convention panels across the country, and you should definitely subscribe to his Patreon to support his endeavors. Follow @edgreerdestroys on Twitter and Instagram! ______________________ ANNOUNCEMENT: The 2nd ANNUAL GOAT OF GOATS TOURNAMENT has begun! Click the link above (or go to www.nerdgoatpodcast.com to download your very own bracket, or start voting for every Round 1 match-up below! YOUNG PUNKS: Click here, dude! DASHING ROGUES: I DARE you to click here. MISUNDERSTOOD OUTSIDERS: Deign you to click, mortal? BADASS LEADERS: You WILL click this link. There's a ton of ways to make your vote count! Send your bracket to nerdgoatshow@gmail.com, DM it to @EdGreerDestroys, @RonSwallow or @BailBondsMedia, or vote in the polls posted on our website and linked in our Twitter feeds. ______________________ QUOTES: “Straight up, I was a corny bitch. And they needed to beat it outta me.” “This morning, Gregor Samsa awoke and discovered he was a rapper.” “I know what it’s like…to have a giant woman kick you in the chest to the point where you fly off the mat.” “I’m not a fan of the shaky camera thing, personally. I think the goal is to make you feel like you’re in the fight? But I don’t wanna feel like I’m in a fight when I watch a movie.” “At a certain point, it’s beyond your skills. It’s about the rep.” “The best bulletproof costume is in this movie about assassins. The most fluid, best cast, as far as doing action, isn’t in a Batman movie, isn’t f**king Captain America, frankly. It’s god damn John Wick. And then the world? Is as complete as most worlds in Marvel.” — SUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREON for bonus episodes, movie reviews, and behind-the-scenes content! Catch Ron on Jack of All Nerds! Subscribe, rate and review Nerd GOAT on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, or your favorite podcast app. Follow Bail Bonds Media on Instagram!

Baron Vaughn is the host of "The New Negroes" on Comedy Central. He's a fantastic stand-up comedian, a better actor than most comedians, and just a great, brilliant dude. Brido and Baron discuss Baron's favorite thing, stand-up comedy, as well as theater and all kinds of other things. Baron is really interesting and funny. You'll really like this one.  

Two-time Emmy award winner, head writer of the wildly popular "New Negroes" on Comedy Central, good friend, and hilarious comedian Kevin Avery stops by the studio. He drops a hilarious Katt Williams story, talks about his old R&B group, shares tips on getting a writing job, and so much more. Make sure you follow Kevin Avery on Twitter @KevinAvery, and Instagram @kevinaverycomedy, and check him out on "New Negroes" on Comedy Central. Follow Us! Kevin Avery Twitter: @KevinAvery Instagram: @kevinaverycomedy Greg Edwards Twitter: @gregthegrouch Instagram: @gregcomedy GregComedy.com Bradlys Philoctete Facebook: Bradlys Philoctete Instagram: @classicbradlys Twitter: @BradlysComedy

By Goat we're talking one of the host of the Nerd Goat podcast, stand-up comedian, artist and more Ed Greer. Ed is also seen on this season of The New Negroes on Comedy Central. Ed and Jay go deep into the announcement of who the new Batman will be and why online petitions have become pointless. Also along with discussing the villains for the film, they dig into Disney becoming the juggernaut of entertainment, James Gunn opening up about his firing, the Arrowverse season finales, the Batwoman and Swamp Things trailers along with much more. Jay also takes calls and emails from The Mad Titan Podcast hotline and you can get yours in as well 818-276-6947 or email madtitanpodcast@gmail.com. Enjoy this barbershop talk that's full of nerdom and realness. BE SURE TO LIKE SHARE and SUBSCRIBE to the podcast   Follow Jay on Twitter and Instagram www.twitter.com/mrjaywashington www.instagram.com/mrjaywashington   Follow Ed on Twitter and Instagram www.twitter.com/edgreerdestroys www.instagram.com/edgreerdestroys   JOIN THE SUPER VILLAIN SQUAD on PATREON www.patreon.com/mrjaywashington   #Marvel #DC #MCU #DCEU #THECW #TheBatman #Batman #JamesGunn #SwampThing #EdGreed  #Fox #DoomPatrol #Legion #Batwoman #TheFlash #DCUniverse #Titans #Supergirl #JayWashington #Arrow #Comedy #Podcast #StandUpComedy #NerdGoatPodcast #NewNegroes #ComedyCentral  

In a special music edition of the podcast, Chris and Nicole discuss SNL impressions, whether it's easier for comedians to do music or musicians to do comedy, the movie Pretty Woman and Rudy Giuliani.Listen to more from each clip below!Open Mike Eagle & Lizzo - "Extra Consent" from The New Negroes with Baron Vaughn & Open Mike Eagle (Fridays 11/10c)Trevor Moore - Drunk Texts To MyselfBo Burnham - what.Garfunkel and Oates - The Half Hour Season 1Key & Peele - Just Stay For The NightLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In episode 43, Naomi and Andy are joined by comedian and New Negroes host Baron Vaughn (@barvonblaq) to discuss his new show with Open Mike Eagle, having a baby, his relationships with our hosts, and more! Also tickets for the live show in Los Angeles on June 1st at The Virgil are available on the website under 'See Us Live.' Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers

Open Mike Eagle and Baron Vaughn of The New Negroes join Andrew and Tawny to discuss caller questions about a theatre group looking for actors of color, a white woman looking for advice on her racist family meeting her black boyfriend for the first time, and more. As always, leave us a message about anything you think is racist at (323) 389-RACE. This episode is brought to you by The Sun is Also a Star.

Panel interview with Lauren Bachelis (Hollywood Assistant Tumblr, Club de Cuervos); Kevin Avery (Totally Biased, Last Week Tonight, The New Negroes); and Christine Chambers (Boardwalk Empire, Riverdale).CONNECT W/ BEN BLACKER & THE WRITER'S PANEL ON SOCIAL MEDIA https://twitter.com/BENBLACKERhttps://www.facebook.com/TVWritersPanelTHE WRITER'S PANEL IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/the-writers-panel

This week: the great Open Mike Eagle! He's a rapper and TV host: Alongside Baron Vaughn, Mike co-stars in a new Comedy Central show called "The New Negroes". It's sort of a variety show - combining live stand up with original music videos Mike made with other artists. When Bullseye talked to Mike in 2017, he'd just released a record called "Brick Body Kids Still Daydream." His latest album - "What Happens When I Try to Relax" - is out now.

HBO has imported Gentleman Jack, a BBC dramedy based on the journals of 19th-century lesbian landowner Anne Lister, and we've invited Mark Blankenship to join us in getting way up under its skirts! Around The Dial takes us through the débuts of The New Negroes and Ramy; Losers; Fleabag; and The Good Fight. Jacqueline brings us an Extra Credit question about our teen BFFs. Mark presents the Designing Women episode "The Beauty Contest" to The Canon then we name the week's Winner and Loser. Loosen your corset and listen in! GUESTS

HBO has imported Gentleman Jack, a BBC dramedy based on the journals of 19th-century lesbian landowner Anne Lister, and we've invited Mark Blankenship to join us in getting way up under its skirts! Around The Dial takes us through the débuts of The New Negroes and Ramy; Losers; Fleabag; and The Good Fight. Jacqueline brings us an Extra Credit question about our teen BFFs. Mark presents the Designing Womenepisode "The Beauty Contest" to The Canon then we name the week's Winner and Loser. Loosen your corset and listen in!SHOW TOPICSLead TopicGentleman JackThe New NegroesRamyLosersFleabagThe Good FightExtra CreditThe Canon: Designing Women S01.E02: "The Beauty Contest"Winner and Loser of the WeekSHOW NOTESMark Blankenship on TwitterThe Blankenship ChairTara on the rotten kids of Better Things at DeciderThe Crime Writers On podcastUntitled: A Bad Teen Novel at AmazonPhoto: Matt SquireSUPPORT EHG ON PATREONThe EHG gang have been recording this podcast for almost a decade now. In podcasting terms, that makes us positivity Methuselahian. Since the start of EHG, our listeners have asked if we had a tip jar or donation system and we'd look at each other and say surely that is a joke, people don't pay other people to do podcasts. We'd email them back "Ha ha ha, good one, Chet" and go about our business. Now we are told this is a real thing that real nice people do. Value for value? In today's topsy turvy world? It's madness but that good kind of madness, like when you wake up a 3:15am and clean your house. Or something. In all seriousness, we are humbled by your continued prodding to get a Patreon page up for EHG and here it is! Extra Hot Great on Patreon See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Rude Jude from "The All Out Show" on Sirius XM's Shade 45 joins The Bonfire. Baron Vaughn and Open Mike Eagle come in and tell us about their new show on Comedy Central, "The New Negroes." Dan & Jay have fun with "Pimp My Ride" and discuss the tragedy of the friend zone.

This week Wynter and Karen chat with Ellington Wells, a comedian and writer on Comedy Central’s brand new sketch show The New Negroes with Open Mike Eagle and Baron Vaughn. The panel takes a look at how black sketch comedy has involved and Wells tell us what Robert Townsend TV special inspired Vaughn to create a show with a similar sensibility. All Abouts Wynter: No Good Nick Karen: Season 4 of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend Ellington: Britney's Gram podcast special episode That's My Jam Ellington: Ava Max - Sweet But Psycho Guy: BTS (방탄소년단) IDOL (Feat. Nicki Minaj) Wynter: Nat King Cole - Harlem Blues Karen: An Luu - Pourquoi tu me fous plus des coups? With Karen Tongson, Ellington Wells, Wynter Mitchell-Rohrbaugh Did you know that you can now call and leave voicemails for the show? You can! If you want to comment on an episode, give us any feedback or just call to get advice from a panel member, the number is: (530) 237-4108 You can let us know what you think of Pop Rocket and suggest topics in our Facebook group or via @PopRocket on Twitter. If you haven't already, follow us on Instagram. Produced and edited by Laura Swisher for MaximumFun.org.

The hilarious comedian and actor, Baron Vaughn (@BarvonBlaq) joins the ladies of FRC on a DEEP dive into emotional awareness and empathy. We talk about his new Comedy Central show The New Negroes, being a father, and meeting his father for the first time. Get ready to step outside your perspective for some real growth in this episode found on your podcast app, iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, SoundCloud, Google Play, iHeartRadio, PlayerFM, or Spreaker!Video versions of the podcast available at https://tinyurl.com/y9rzlxbbPodcast Website: https://www.comedypopupla.com/facialrecognitioncomedyFollow us:https://www.instagram.com/fizaadosanihttps://www.instagram.com/reallyzahrahttps://www.instagram.com/pallavigunalanhttps://www.instagram.com/comedypopuphttps://www.instagram.com/cpupodcasts

The hilarious comedian and actor, Baron Vaughn (@BarvonBlaq) joins the ladies of FRC on a DEEP dive into emotional awareness and empathy. We talk about his new Comedy Central show The New Negroes, being a father, and meeting his father for the first time. Get ready to step outside your perspective for some real growth in this episode found on your podcast app, iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, SoundCloud, Google Play, iHeartRadio, PlayerFM, or Spreaker!Video versions of the podcast available at https://tinyurl.com/y9rzlxbbPodcast Website: https://www.comedypopupla.com/facialrecognitioncomedyFollow us:https://www.instagram.com/fizaadosanihttps://www.instagram.com/reallyzahrahttps://www.instagram.com/pallavigunalanhttps://www.instagram.com/comedypopuphttps://www.instagram.com/cpupodcasts

"Everyone is doing monogamy. And if you try to cram all those people into one door, someone is gonna get hurt."Baron Vaughn (Corporate, The New Negros) explains LOVE. What it is to be a love addict, and the differences on love, lust, and infatuation. He also shares his experiences being in non-monogamous relationships. Nicole addresses the recent reddit threads, explaining why her comedy is so dick-focused.Check out the New Negroes show on Comedy Central in 2019!You can play along and see Nicole's Tinder bio and photos on her Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/pg/NicoleByerComedyBe sure to rate Why Won't You Date Me 5-stars on Apple Podcasts. Leave a dirty comment for a chance have it read on-air.Follow Nicole Byer:Tour Dates: nicolebyerwastaken.com/tourdatesTwitter: @nicolebyerInstagram: @nicolebyerFacebook: www.facebook.com/nicolebyercomedy

127- Open Mike Eagle 2. In New Orleans, while on tour together, Mike and Yoni meet up for a talk. They discuss former projects on the south side of Chicago, the story surrounding Mike's 2017 release “Brick Body Kids Still Daydream”, the indie rap world, social media strategies, the crack epidemic of the 80s, and Mike's Comedy Central show, “The New Negroes”. This episode is sponsored by Sudio headphones. Go to Sudio.com and enter my code WANDERING at checkout for a 15% discount.

Next Week August 21st on Sup Doc: Paco & George talk to comedian/actor Baron Vaughn (Grace and Frankie, Mystery Science Theater 3000, New Negroes) about his documentary Fatherless (2017, Dawn Porter).Baron is entering his 30s, in a serious relationship, and has lingering questions about the father he never knew. Raised by a single mother in New Mexico, the successful entertainer had to cobble together his ideas about masculinity from all sorts of non-traditional relationships, and ponders the statistical baggage attached to being African-American and fatherless. The viewer accompanies the highs and lows as Vaughn and his film crew set out on the search for his biological father.Available through Amazon Prime and Fusion TV.

Episode #88: Last year, we went to Oregon's Pickathon music festival and caught up with some promising acts in Pickathon's interview video series. With this year's festival around the corner, we bring you extended interviews with some of our favorite artists. We talk with rapper and host of Comedy Central's The New Negroes, Open Mike Eagle. Then we discuss everything from Avril Lavigne to anxiety with Ellen Kempner (Palehound). Thao Nguyen joins us to recount how she first got signed to Kill Rock Stars, and Seattle's La Luz talks business. Watch the full interview series on YouTube and stay tuned for more from this year's Pickathon. Subscribe to The Future of What on iTunes: http://apple.co/1P4Apk0 Follow us: Twitter: http://bit.ly/2gOYMYM Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thefutureofwhat/ Instagram: http://bit.ly/1L6T8fl

In this episode of the podcast I discuss 1. My brief thoughts on the NFL Draft and my San Antonio Spurs 2. A Shout out to Open Mike Eagle and his new show "The New Negroes" with Baron Vaughn 3. Kendrick Lamar's latest album Damn 4. Marcus D's newest release Melancholy Prequel (Rising Sun Redux) Kendrick Lamar-DNA Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLZRYQMLDW4 Listen/Buy To Marcus D's Melancholy Prequel (Rising Sun Redux) http://marcusd.net/album/melancholy-prequel-rising-sun-redux Andreas Hale-9th Wonder Is A Legend, But The Internet Isn't Ready To Accept It http://2dopeboyz.com/2017/04/20/9th-wonder-is-a-legend/

This week on State of Wonder, the city's plans to enforce pot policy puts many marijuana-related events on hold, the comedian Curtis Cook on what it takes to be brave, writer Andi Zeisler on the commodification of feminism & more.Portland Just Says No To Many Marijuana-Related EventsSince the legalization of recreational marijuana in Oregon last year, there’s been an explosion or pot-related events: from big celebrations like Weed the People and the Cultivation Classic, to yoganja classes and house concerts. But now all these events are up in the air due to a confluence of clarifications from state and city authorities, including the city's pot officials saying they will begin to crack down on events that sell tickets and then give away marijuana, meaning a major buzz kill for a number of events already in the works.Tales of the Portland Jazz Scene: Lorna Bracken Baxter - 5:45Our friends at KMHD Jazz Radio have been working on a special series of stories you will want to check out: Tales of the Portland Jazz Scene. This is in connection with the great "Jazz Town" documentary recently broadcast on Oregon Experience. This week, we isten to a personal story from Portland vocalist Lorna Bracken Baxter, who offers up a window into the values identified with blackness in Portland during her childhood years.Writer Andi Zeisler on the Commodification of Feminism - 9:42As a founding editor of Bitch Media and an astute observer of popular culture, Andi Zeisler has noticed a curious trend over the past two decades: Feminism went from being ridiculed or reviled to being embraced, and it even turned into a kind of cottage industry. But what happens when a political and social movement becomes a brand? Just another way to sell a celebrity, a yogurt or a pair of underwear? Zeisler explores that question in her new book “We Were Feminists Once: From Riot Grrrl to CoverGirl, the Buying and Selling of a Political Movement.” Listen to the full Think Out Loud interview here.Comedian Curtis Cook - 17:21The comedian Curtis Cook is not from Portland, but certain things about him seem made for this place: he excels at a kind of unassuming riff that doesn’t hit you so much as quietly steer you right where he wants you. He tells us why he didn't fit into the liberal crowd at Oberlin College, and how his view about what it takes to be brave in comedy has changed. Curtis performs in seven showcases at the Bridgetown Comedy Festival (June 1–5), including a special Earthquake Hurricane show on June 1 and New Negroes with Baron Vaughn on June 4.We Work on Comedy - 26:22In hanging around with Curtis Cook, we stumbled across a pretty interesting event he’s involved with: the Do What You Love Comedy Series at the We Work co-working space in the old U.S. Customs Building in downtown Portland. It's introducing a whole different crowd to comedy. The next show is June 16.Tour Managers: An Interview with the Unsung Heroes of Rock - 30:21With summer fast approaching, touring season is now in full swing with thousands of bands criss-crossing the continent. Out there, anything can go wrong: a van accident, broken gear, missing instrument, or sick band member. Something as basic as a simple lack of attention to detail can derail a tour. Often times, there’s only one person holding it all together: the tour manager. Here the extended interview at opbmusic.Subversive Comics at the University of Oregon - 44:45Ben Saunders has created the first in the nation academic minor program dedicated to comics and cartoon at the University of Oregon. Sanders stopped by Think Out Loud to talk with Dave Miller about why comics are worth studying academically, the early provocateurs at EC Comics and Mad Magazine, and "Aliens, Monsters and Madmen," the exhibition he curated at the Jordan Schnitzer Museum of Art showcasing the comics that influenced the creative minds of Stephen King, George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and others.

GUESTS: BARON VAUGHN & BRENDON SMALL, Bridgetown Comedy Festival, Baron Soothing Voice, Comedy Shows, New Negroes, Grace & Frankie, BRENDON SMALL, Metalocalypse, Galaktikon, Baked Show, BIKE GALLERY

GUESTS: W. KAMAU BELL, BARON VAUGHN, MYQ KAPLAN, BRIDGETOWN COMEDY FESTIVAL, Craziness, New Negroes, Confused White People, SQUARESPACE, MYQ KAPLAN, What Do You Believe, KENNY B, Behind The Scenes Of Bridgetown, Happy Birthday Ace

Whoever states the old adage, “A picture is worth a thousand words” grossly underestimates. So Erin D. Chapman shows in Prove It On Me: New Negroes, Sex, and Popular Culture in the 1920s (Oxford University Press, 2012). Just consider the images of African Americans in US popular culture throughout the 19th and 20th centuries; consider the power they held in defining an entire people, and we know better–pictures evince far more than 1000 words. Chapman explores what happens when African Americans use old sexist-racist images and/or create fresh ones to tout the Negro at the turn of the 20th century as modern and new. Through an examination of advertisements at the time, the author makes it evident that many saw the commodification and consumption of the black female body as essential to achieving goals for racial advancement or self-determinism. Chapman, professor of History at George Washington University, offers readers something new: she demonstrates the push-pull dynamics of the image-making in the New Negro era. For, as the new public desire for actual black bodies (as opposed to minstrel caricatures) opens space for the nation to view African Americans as human beings, it also allows for the continued dehumanization of those same bodies–particularly those of the African American female body. As Blueswoman Gertrude “Ma” Rainey demonstrates in the lyrics of her 1928 recording, “Prove It On Me”, to define the self through the use of images is tricky business for who one purports to be in their public persona does not necessarily reflect their private selves. Moreover, in judging “right” versus “wrong” images one must consider the sex-race marketplace where selling and buying is the name of the game–regardless of who is selling to and/or buying from whom. If you want to learn more about New Negroes and how they used prominent ideas about gender, race and sexuality to sell and consume various ideas and products Erin D. Chapman's fine book is what you're looking for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Whoever states the old adage, “A picture is worth a thousand words” grossly underestimates. So Erin D. Chapman shows in Prove It On Me: New Negroes, Sex, and Popular Culture in the 1920s (Oxford University Press, 2012). Just consider the images of African Americans in US popular culture throughout the 19th and 20th centuries; consider the power they held in defining an entire people, and we know better–pictures evince far more than 1000 words. Chapman explores what happens when African Americans use old sexist-racist images and/or create fresh ones to tout the Negro at the turn of the 20th century as modern and new. Through an examination of advertisements at the time, the author makes it evident that many saw the commodification and consumption of the black female body as essential to achieving goals for racial advancement or self-determinism. Chapman, professor of History at George Washington University, offers readers something new: she demonstrates the push-pull dynamics of the image-making in the New Negro era. For, as the new public desire for actual black bodies (as opposed to minstrel caricatures) opens space for the nation to view African Americans as human beings, it also allows for the continued dehumanization of those same bodies–particularly those of the African American female body. As Blueswoman Gertrude “Ma” Rainey demonstrates in the lyrics of her 1928 recording, “Prove It On Me”, to define the self through the use of images is tricky business for who one purports to be in their public persona does not necessarily reflect their private selves. Moreover, in judging “right” versus “wrong” images one must consider the sex-race marketplace where selling and buying is the name of the game–regardless of who is selling to and/or buying from whom. If you want to learn more about New Negroes and how they used prominent ideas about gender, race and sexuality to sell and consume various ideas and products Erin D. Chapman’s fine book is what you’re looking for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Whoever states the old adage, “A picture is worth a thousand words” grossly underestimates. So Erin D. Chapman shows in Prove It On Me: New Negroes, Sex, and Popular Culture in the 1920s (Oxford University Press, 2012). Just consider the images of African Americans in US popular culture throughout the 19th and 20th centuries; consider the power they held in defining an entire people, and we know better–pictures evince far more than 1000 words. Chapman explores what happens when African Americans use old sexist-racist images and/or create fresh ones to tout the Negro at the turn of the 20th century as modern and new. Through an examination of advertisements at the time, the author makes it evident that many saw the commodification and consumption of the black female body as essential to achieving goals for racial advancement or self-determinism. Chapman, professor of History at George Washington University, offers readers something new: she demonstrates the push-pull dynamics of the image-making in the New Negro era. For, as the new public desire for actual black bodies (as opposed to minstrel caricatures) opens space for the nation to view African Americans as human beings, it also allows for the continued dehumanization of those same bodies–particularly those of the African American female body. As Blueswoman Gertrude “Ma” Rainey demonstrates in the lyrics of her 1928 recording, “Prove It On Me”, to define the self through the use of images is tricky business for who one purports to be in their public persona does not necessarily reflect their private selves. Moreover, in judging “right” versus “wrong” images one must consider the sex-race marketplace where selling and buying is the name of the game–regardless of who is selling to and/or buying from whom. If you want to learn more about New Negroes and how they used prominent ideas about gender, race and sexuality to sell and consume various ideas and products Erin D. Chapman’s fine book is what you’re looking for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Whoever states the old adage, “A picture is worth a thousand words” grossly underestimates. So Erin D. Chapman shows in Prove It On Me: New Negroes, Sex, and Popular Culture in the 1920s (Oxford University Press, 2012). Just consider the images of African Americans in US popular culture throughout the 19th and 20th centuries; consider the power they held in defining an entire people, and we know better–pictures evince far more than 1000 words. Chapman explores what happens when African Americans use old sexist-racist images and/or create fresh ones to tout the Negro at the turn of the 20th century as modern and new. Through an examination of advertisements at the time, the author makes it evident that many saw the commodification and consumption of the black female body as essential to achieving goals for racial advancement or self-determinism. Chapman, professor of History at George Washington University, offers readers something new: she demonstrates the push-pull dynamics of the image-making in the New Negro era. For, as the new public desire for actual black bodies (as opposed to minstrel caricatures) opens space for the nation to view African Americans as human beings, it also allows for the continued dehumanization of those same bodies–particularly those of the African American female body. As Blueswoman Gertrude “Ma” Rainey demonstrates in the lyrics of her 1928 recording, “Prove It On Me”, to define the self through the use of images is tricky business for who one purports to be in their public persona does not necessarily reflect their private selves. Moreover, in judging “right” versus “wrong” images one must consider the sex-race marketplace where selling and buying is the name of the game–regardless of who is selling to and/or buying from whom. If you want to learn more about New Negroes and how they used prominent ideas about gender, race and sexuality to sell and consume various ideas and products Erin D. Chapman's fine book is what you're looking for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/african-american-studies

Whoever states the old adage, “A picture is worth a thousand words” grossly underestimates. So Erin D. Chapman shows in Prove It On Me: New Negroes, Sex, and Popular Culture in the 1920s (Oxford University Press, 2012). Just consider the images of African Americans in US popular culture throughout the 19th and 20th centuries; consider the power they held in defining an entire people, and we know better–pictures evince far more than 1000 words. Chapman explores what happens when African Americans use old sexist-racist images and/or create fresh ones to tout the Negro at the turn of the 20th century as modern and new. Through an examination of advertisements at the time, the author makes it evident that many saw the commodification and consumption of the black female body as essential to achieving goals for racial advancement or self-determinism. Chapman, professor of History at George Washington University, offers readers something new: she demonstrates the push-pull dynamics of the image-making in the New Negro era. For, as the new public desire for actual black bodies (as opposed to minstrel caricatures) opens space for the nation to view African Americans as human beings, it also allows for the continued dehumanization of those same bodies–particularly those of the African American female body. As Blueswoman Gertrude “Ma” Rainey demonstrates in the lyrics of her 1928 recording, “Prove It On Me”, to define the self through the use of images is tricky business for who one purports to be in their public persona does not necessarily reflect their private selves. Moreover, in judging “right” versus “wrong” images one must consider the sex-race marketplace where selling and buying is the name of the game–regardless of who is selling to and/or buying from whom. If you want to learn more about New Negroes and how they used prominent ideas about gender, race and sexuality to sell and consume various ideas and products Erin D. Chapman’s fine book is what you’re looking for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adrian Gaskins, “From Dayton to Dahomey to Denver: Dunbar's Travels and the Movement of New Negroes in the Early Twentieth Century." (March 11, 2006)

Adrian Gaskins, “From Dayton to Dahomey to Denver: Dunbar's Travels and the Movement of New Negroes in the Early Twentieth Century;” Blair L.M. Kelley." (March 11, 2006)