Podcasts about Marcello

Fluent Fiction - Italian: Unveiling Secrets: A Family's Path to Reconciliation Find the full episode transcript, vocabulary words, and more:fluentfiction.com/it/episode/2026-03-14-22-34-01-it Story Transcript:It: Il sole brillava intensamente nel cielo azzurro.En: The sun was shining brightly in the blue sky.It: Livia sedeva in un angolo del caffè accogliente, dietro i grandi vetri che si affacciavano sul Mediterraneo.En: Livia sat in a corner of the cozy café, behind the large windows overlooking the Mediterraneo.It: L'aria era carica del profumo di salsedine e del dolce aroma dei dolci alla crema di ricotta appena sfornati.En: The air was filled with the scent of sea salt and the sweet aroma of freshly baked ricotta cream pastries.It: Era il giorno di San Giuseppe, una festa speciale per la sua famiglia.En: It was St. Joseph's Day, a special celebration for her family.It: Marcello, suo figlio, osservava il mare con pensieri sparsi.En: Marcello, her son, was gazing at the sea with scattered thoughts.It: Desiderava un futuro diverso, ma rispettava le tradizioni.En: He desired a different future, but respected traditions.It: Sentì Livia sospirare, concentrata sul suo obiettivo: unire la famiglia.En: He sensed Livia sigh, focused on her goal: uniting the family.It: Solo che non era certo come.En: Only he wasn't sure how.It: Poco lontano, Giuseppe, il simpatico zio, sorrideva con il suo solito modo di fare affabile, ma con qualcosa nascosto negli occhi.En: Not far away, Giuseppe, the friendly uncle, smiled in his usual affable manner, but with something hidden in his eyes.It: La festa di San Giuseppe era un'occasione perfetta per stare tutti insieme.En: The celebration of St. Joseph's Day was a perfect occasion for everyone to be together.It: Livia aveva preparato tutto con cura.En: Livia had prepared everything carefully.It: Tuttavia, appena tutte le sedie furono occupate, la tensione tagliava l'aria.En: However, as soon as all the seats were occupied, the tension cut through the air.It: Livia aveva scoperto un segreto di famiglia, uno di quelli la cui ombra può restare per sempre.En: Livia had discovered a family secret, one of those shadows that could linger forever.It: “Zio Giuseppe,” iniziò Livia con una calma forzata, “è ora di parlare. Di chiarire il passato.”En: "Zio Giuseppe," Livia began with forced calm, "it's time to talk. To clarify the past."It: La sala divenne silenziosa.En: The room went silent.It: Tutti gli occhi erano su Giuseppe.En: All eyes were on Giuseppe.It: Anche le brezze marine sembravano trattenere il respiro.En: Even the marine breezes seemed to hold their breath.It: Giuseppe abbassò lo sguardo, poi sospirò profondamente.En: Giuseppe lowered his gaze, then sighed deeply.It: “Livia, ragazzi... sì, c'è qualcosa che non ho mai detto.”En: "Livia, kids... yes, there's something I've never said."It: Marcello si irrigidì sulla sedia.En: Marcello stiffened in his chair.It: Sentiva il cuore battere forte.En: He felt his heart beating hard.It: Il tempo sembrava essersi fermato, incapsulando l'uomo e le sue parole.En: Time seemed to have stopped, encapsulating the man and his words.It: “Mia cara sorella non sa che quando eravamo giovani, io ho preso una decisione che ha cambiato molte cose…En: "My dear sister doesn't know that when we were young, I made a decision that changed many things..."It: Il silenzio fu rotto solo dai gabbiani in lontananza.En: Silence was broken only by the distant seagulls.It: Livia chiuse gli occhi per un momento, riflettendo.En: Livia closed her eyes for a moment, reflecting.It: Avrebbe potuto controllare il destino di quella giornata.En: She could have controlled the destiny of that day.It: Poteva ignorare e proteggere l'apparenza di felicità.En: She could ignore and protect the appearance of happiness.It: Ma scelse diversamente.En: But she chose differently.It: “Giuseppe, siamo qui per te e per la verità. Non importa quanto dura possa essere,” disse Livia, con una voce che appena tremava.En: "Giuseppe, we are here for you and for the truth. No matter how hard it might be," said Livia, her voice barely trembling.It: Giuseppe iniziò allora il suo racconto.En: Giuseppe then began his tale.It: Ogni parola era una cucitura nel tessuto strappato della verità.En: Each word was a stitch in the torn fabric of truth.It: Era doloroso, ma necessario.En: It was painful, but necessary.It: La famiglia ascoltò, intercalando emozioni e lacrime, ma nessuna collera.En: The family listened, interweaving emotions and tears, but no anger.It: Alla fine, Marcello posò la mano su quella dello zio.En: In the end, Marcello placed his hand over his uncle's.It: “Forse il passato era scuro, ma oggi possiamo partire da qui,” disse riflessivo.En: "Perhaps the past was dark, but today we can start from here," he said reflectively.It: Il sole stava per tramontare, ma una nuova luce brillava nelle loro vite.En: The sun was about to set, but a new light was shining in their lives.It: Livia, avvolta dalla brezza primaverile, guardava il mare con nuova speranza.En: Livia, wrapped in the spring breeze, looked at the sea with new hope.It: Aveva scoperto l'importanza della verità, anche quando fa male.En: She had discovered the importance of truth, even when it hurts.It: Il loro legame era forse ferito, ma non più spezzato.En: Their bond was perhaps wounded, but no longer broken.It: Sentì la pace dentro di sé, una riconciliazione che iniziava con la scelta di perdonare.En: She felt peace within herself, a reconciliation beginning with the choice to forgive.It: E in quel caffè ordinato e accogliente, mentre il sole baciava l'acqua di un'ultima scintilla dorata, il loro spirito di famiglia diventava più forte, risorgendo come il sole che sarebbe sorto il giorno dopo.En: And in that orderly and welcoming café, as the sun kissed the water with one last golden spark, their family spirit was becoming stronger, rising like the sun that would rise the next day. Vocabulary Words:the sun: il solethe sky: il cielothe corner: l'angolocozy: accoglientethe windows: i vetrisea salt: salsedinethe aroma: l'aromathe pastries: i dolcifreshly baked: appena sfornatithe thoughts: i pensierito sigh: sospirarethe friendly uncle: il simpatico zioaffable manner: modo di fare affabilethe tension: la tensioneto cut through: tagliarethe secret: il segretothe shadow: l'ombrato linger: restareto clarify: chiarireto lower: abbassareto stiffen: irrigidirsito encapsulate: incapsularethe decision: la decisioneto ignore: ignorareto protect: proteggereto tremble: tremarethe tale: il raccontoto weave: intercalarereflection: riflessivoto hurt: fare male

⁠Carlos Hoyos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, business advisor, coach executivo global sênior, membro da ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Forbes Coaches Council⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, CEO/Founder do ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Elite Leader Institute⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, bestseller internacional, autor de 8 livros, e host do Podcast Líder de Elite, conversou com Marcello Lacroix sobre Engenharia de Gente — a arte de desenvolver pessoas, sustentar processos que funcionam e elevar o nível de consciência dentro das organizações.Neste episódio, Marcello Lacroix, simplificador de processos e facilitador de mudanças, apresenta uma visão prática e humana: processo bom gera fluidez, e quando existe conflito, ruído ou estresse recorrente, muitas vezes o problema não é “a pessoa” — é a falta de clareza de processo e de propósito. Ele também compartilha um conjunto de 5 perguntas simples para diagnosticar maturidade organizacional (processos existem, estão descritos, estão disponíveis, são usados e funcionam?), além de reflexões sobre responsabilidade, vulnerabilidade e a frase que o norteia: “Conhece-te a ti mesmo.”Pontos Chave: Engenharia de Gente, Pessoas como conteúdo, Propósito-forma-conteúdo, Qualidade de processos, Diagnóstico de processos, Desenvolvimento de equipes, Autoconhecimento, Liderança na prática.Siga o Podcast Líder de Elite para mais conversas transformadoras.#processos #altaperformance #autoconhecimento #gestaodetimes #governança  #networking #liderança

Kyle Reese and Marcello Romano are in on a Sunday morning. The Nuggets are not looking like a championship caliber squad right now. What is going wrong and can the team right the ship? Meanwhile, the Avs are going all in as they acquired Nazem Kadri at the tail end of the trade deadline. Is it Stanley Cup or bust with the Avs? On the Sunday Stroll, the World Baseball Classic is underway and Shohei Ohtani is up to his old tricks, hitting homers and dominating. Plus, Kyle and Cello throw out the question: What is the hardest championship to win in sports? 

In Hour 2, the guys take a look at NFL Free Agency. Who is on the Broncos free agent wishlist? Which position groups do the Broncos need to address first? Also, who is the best athlete of all-time? Was Michael Jordan or LeBron James a better athlete? 3 questions with Alex Becker: Are the Broncos or Chiefs a more desirable destination for free agents? Will the Rockies have any players inside the Top-100 in 2-3 years? Does the NHL need to revert back to the 1-through-8 playoff seeding? 

In Hour 3, Kyle, Cello and Alex get into the latest NFL news and notes from the past week. Geno Smith, Tua Tagovailoa and Kyler Murray will all have a new team to play for this upcoming season. There were some big trades this week as Maxx Crosby goes to the Ravens, DJ Moore goes to the Bills and David Montgomery goes to the Texans. On the Wake Up and Reset segment, the Nuggets, Avs and World Baseball Classic/Shohei Ohtani are discussed. Dan Jacobs comes in for the final segment to stir it up with music tastes and Nazem Kadri. 

Who saw the fireball in the sky or heard the great big boom in the sky Wednesday night? If you heard it, what did you initially think it was? Those of us who missed it are having some serious FOMO! Plus: Craziest excuses ever on why you had to miss work. Marcello calls in with the story to end all stories 99 days to go until the FIFA World Cup comes to town and Airbnb is incentivizing Vancouverites to sign up and offer their home as accommodation. It's a Would You Rather Wednesday! All kinds of scenarios ranging from arguments with your partner to exchanging time off your life for huge money.

Duke University Relief Pitcher Marcello Mastroianni joins Dylan Campione & Nicho Fernandez on today's episode to discuss the beginning of the 2026 season. Plus, the guys do a deep dive into Marcello's arsenal and the art of pitching. Thanks so much for joining Marcello, looking forward to having more Blue Devils on in the future.    To nominate or recommend a future guest, let us know at SideRetiredPod@Gmail.com or DM us on Instagram / TikTok / X (Twitter) @SideRetiredPod. 

In Hour 3, more on the dirtiest players of all-time conversation. And are the Nuggets better equipped for a deep playoff run this year than they were last season at this time? Calvin Booth did an interview with Yahoo Sports' Kevin O'Connor this week. The guys react to Booth's statements and discuss if his comments were out of line. Finally, a music discussion in the final segment. Kyle, Cello and Dan Jacobs go over what's on their music playlist. 

In Hour 2, the guys discuss Sean Payton giving up play-calling to Davis Webb. Was this the right move and do you trust Payton to stay out of Webb's way and let him be the OC? An early look at 2026 NFL contenders and a potential Super Bowl matchup. Who are some of the biggest dawgs in the NFL? 3 questions with Alex Becker: Has the 65-game rule ruined the MVP race? Robert Livingston leaves the Buffs for the Broncos and would you rather have Javonte Williams or RJ Harvey? 

Kyle Reese and Marcello Romano are back at it on a Sunday morning. Kyle, Cello and Alex Becker start the show off by discussing Lu Dort's cheapshot on Nikola Jokic. Who are the dirtiest players in sports? The Nuggets discussion continues by discussing the team's struggles in clutch time situations and Cam Johnson not producing at the rate we thought he would. The NFL Combine is in full swing. Kenyon Sadiq ran a 4.40 40-yard dash and likely will be gone before the Broncos pick. Who are the most desirable NFL free agents the Broncos could acquire? 

Oggi su Triciclo incontriamo Rossella Di Leo, anima e motore della ex Colpack Ballan — oggi MBH Bank — una delle squadre più importanti del ciclismo giovanile italiano. Una realtà che ha formato campioni e che ora si prepara a entrare nel professionismo.Rossella ci porta dentro la storia di questa squadra bergamasca, raccontando come è cambiata nel tempo, quali valori la guidano e cosa comporta fare il grande salto verso il WorldTour. Dai successi di Filippo Ganna a quelli di Ciccone e Masnada, fino ai giovani di oggi: una chiacchierata sincera e appassionata su passato, presente e futuro di una squadra che ha fatto scuola.

durée : 00:27:45 - Les Midis de Culture - par : Marie Sorbier - Aujourd'hui, au menu de notre débat critique, trois bandes dessinées : l'histoire d'Ernie Bushmiller, créateur de Nancy ; une plongée dans la société brésilienne du XXᵉ siècle ; et le récit d'un enfant patricide. - réalisation : Laurence Malonda - invités : Victor Macé de Lépinay Rédacteur en chef adjoint du Pèlerin; Antoine Guillot Journaliste, critique de cinéma et de bandes dessinées, producteur de l'émission "Plan large" sur France Culture

durée : 00:14:13 - Les Midis de Culture - par : Marie Sorbier - "El Dorado" est le récit d'un père et deux fils dans le Brésil des années 1950. De retour après "Zoc", Jade Khoo propose le récit délicat d'un enfant parricide. - réalisation : Laurence Malonda - invités : Victor Macé de Lépinay Rédacteur en chef adjoint du Pèlerin

His mom gave good reasons why

Marcello Hernandez jokes about family parties in his Netflix special, "American Boy".

Dana and David return to crack the mystery of the sweater Marcello Hernandez snagged at New York Magazine's SNL 50th anniversary photo shoot (yes, the one with Dana). From there, they dive into their VERY late Super Bowl hot takes before jumping into another hilarious round of Buzzing Around. They wrap things up with some news… and trust us, you'll want the subtitles on for this episode. It'll all make sense once you hit play. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the heart of Rome's Jewish Ghetto, just opposite the Portico d'Ottavia and steps from the Teatro di Marcello, there is a staircase that leads down into history. That staircase belongs to Leone Limentani Rome, one of the oldest family-run shops in the city — founded in 1820 and still operated by the same family, now in its seventh generation. I first discovered Leone Limentani Rome decades ago when I lived on Via Giulia. I would walk along the Tiber and into the Ghetto, descend those stairs, and find myself in what felt like an Aladdin's cave of porcelain, crystal, and silver. Shelves stretched in every direction. Ginori plates. Limoges porcelain. Christofle cutlery. Baccarat crystal. Everything touchable. Everything real. And that tactile immediacy is still part of what makes Leone Limentani Rome so special today.

It's all business in these episodes with a side of Pride. Marcello pops up in Paris with ambitions to start his own fashion line, and he somehow finds jobs for all of our main characters, which is going to make for pretty strange bedfellows. Mindy meddles in Emily's relationship with Marcello, Sylvie finds herself in a friendship faux pas, and does Julien finally have a love interest?? Now we love to see a Paris Pride parade, but here's your warning to shield your eyes from Emily's hideous wig.   Don't forget to rate and subscribe! Follow us on:  Twitter: @ih8itletswatch Instagram: @ih8itletswatchit Website: tinyurl.com/ih8itletswatchit Email: ihateitletswatchit@gmail.com

In this episode of Current Account, Clay is joined by two IIF colleagues, Marcello Estevão, Managing Director and Chief Economist, and Gene Ma, Head of China Research and Chief Representative for the Asia-Pacific region, to take a closer look at China's evolving role in the global economy at a time when growth is no longer the country's top priority. Long viewed as the engine of global expansion, China is now emphasizing domestic stability, reshaping trade patterns and global economic dynamics in the process. Drawing on recent travel across the region and insights from the IIF China Economic Forum, they discuss how policymakers and market participants are interpreting China's shift away from growth-driven stimulus toward a more measured approach. The conversation explores the drivers behind China's record trade surplus, including the role of weak imports alongside steady exports, ongoing challenges in the housing sector, rising household savings, and persistent deflationary pressures. Clay, Marcello, and Gene also examine how China's increasing focus on trade with emerging markets—and reduced engagement with advanced economies—is reshaping global trade flows. The episode concludes with a forward-looking discussion on what really matters for understanding China in 2026, and why the key question may no longer be how fast China grows, but how its new economic posture affects the rest of the world. This IIF Podcast was hosted by Clay Lowery, Executive Vice President, Research and Policy, with production and research contributions from Christian Klein, Digital Graphics and Production Associate and Miranda Silverman, Senior Program Assistant.

Rebecca welcomes award-winning Canadian author Marcello Di Cintio for his third podcast visit to discuss his latest book, Precarious: The Lives of Migrant Workers, published by Biblioasis in September 2025.   A Globe 100 Best Book of 2025 • One of The Hill Times' Top 100 Best Books in 2025 • Winner of the 2024 Dave Greber Freelance Writers Book Award https://www.biblioasis.com/shop/new-releases/precarious-the-lives-of-migrant-workers/ In 2023, after weeks of investigation, United Nations Special Rapporteur Tomoyo Obokata came to a scathing conclusion: Canada's Temporary Foreign Worker program is “a breeding ground for contemporary forms of slavery.” Workers complained of excessive hours and unpaid overtime; of being forced to perform dangerous tasks or ones not specified in their contracts; of being physically abused, intimidated, and sexually harassed; and of overcrowded, unsanitary living conditions that deprived them of their privacy and dignity. In Precarious: The Lives of Migrant Workers, Marcello Di Cintio ranges across the country speaking to those who have come from elsewhere to till our fields, bathe our elderly, and serve us our Double Doubles, uncovering stories of tremendous perseverance, resilience, and humanity, but also of precarity and vulnerability. He shows that vast swathes of our economy depend on the work of people we don't see, while expanding our awareness of what migrant work now entails, and revealing that our mistreatment of the most vulnerable among us diminishes our own dignity.   Please check out Rebecca's previous interviews with Marcello: January 11, 2021 - Pay No Heed to the Rockets: Life in Contemporary Palestine June 28, 2021 - Driven: The Secret Lives of Taxi Drivers   https://www.instagram.com/marcello.di.cintio/    

Fresh off presenting at the Grammys, Marcello Hernández (aka SNL's Domingo) joins the guys in studio. He shares what it was like chatting backstage with Queen Latifah, his love for Olivia Dean's music, and how surreal the whole Grammys experience was. Then it's all Saturday Night Live: the origins of Domingo, how Marcello landed his first sketch, and the biggest on-air bomb he and Dana ever shared. They also get into whether Marcello texts with Lorne Michaels and who could possibly take over when he retires. Plus, the guys get a Spanish lesson for the ages. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

01. Stogov - Sounda 02. Frits Wentink, Dominic Oswald - Club Land 03. Akeem Raphael, Tiny Blue - Do It Again 04. Ross Couch - Too Far Gone 05. Promise Land, Alexander Som - Dancefloor 06. Somersault, Aron Volta - Time Out 07. Sond Zpace, Le Drux Justine - On the Podium (in a fashion house) 08. Mylo, James Bluck - Drop The Pressure 09. Twenty Six - No More 10. Zav, Jesse Bru, Scott Diaz Dub - Soul 11. Stogov - Smooth Turn 12. Tommy Trash, Dave Winnel - That Accordion Song 13. Julian, Lauti Mina - Disco Tool 14. Steve Aoki, Kream - Lies 15. Fdf - Under The Lights 16. Kinobe, Swag'S Flying High - Butterfly 17. Prospa - Motions 18. Olive F, Lucas Alexander - Soul Soup 19. B&S Concept, Zetbee - Memory 20. Disclosure - My Intention Is War (Fig ii) 21. Flavor Plus, Bhx1 - Take Me to the Top 22. L.P. Rhythm - I'm Here 23. Unknown7 - Shake That Ass 24. Lefti - Weego 25. Alaia, Gallo, Ida Flo - Shoulda Coulda 26. Butter - Miss U 27. Joxion, Kxne - Hype Unload 28. Citadelle & Aramis, Single Spark - Fading Out 29. Ezra Blissard - See The Signs 30. Eric Costa, Piem - Meua Opera 31. Devstar, Jeremy Sylvester - I Need Ya 32. Lexx London - Make You Feel 33. Cid, Taylr Renee, Mishell & Buka - Fancy $hit 34. Qubiko - Anemoia 35. Kleinfinger, Moiqe - 4luv 36. Calee - Borjita S Rhythm 37. Paco Caniza - That Simple 38. Dj Pp - The World 39. Claptone - Another Night 40. Dennis Quin - The Liberation 41. Finn, Ferreck Dawn, Robosonic - Sometimes The Going Gets A Little Tough 42. Katy Alex - Inside Out 43. Steve Bug - Good Time 44. Ben Miller, Kvision - Jumpin' 45. Chinonegro - Mi Gentee 46. Draxx - Back to the Sound 47. Luuk Van Dijk, Kolter - Good 4 U 48. Hey Jack - Terre Du Soleil 49. Nicolas Lacaille - Think About You 50. Becky Hill, Sonny Fodera, D.O.D, Wynter Gordon - Never Dirty Talk Alone 51. Man Without A Clue - All Get Down 52. Frank Storm - Sweat 53. Midnight In Amsterdam, Larakay Creeps - Trust 54. Jesusdapnk - Hot Springs 55. Stanny Abram - Wrong 56. Mattei & Omich, Re-Tide - Friday Night 57. Legit Trip - Move Your Body 58. Marcello, V.O.R. - Touch Me 59. Davide Toschi - Light Shadow 60. Louis Lennon - PERFECTO 61. Zetbee, Reiner Von Vielen, Chemars - Moonlight 62. Anderblast, Dan Ros, Peter Brown - Can You Feel Me 63. The Sunchasers - Move Your Body 64. Keepsix - Stay 65. Vincent Caira - Position 66. Tommy Morgan - Soul 67. Moullinex, Tee Flowers - Open House 68. Silque - Talk That Way 69. Groove Federation - Beer Goggles 70. Astrohertz - Move Your Body 71. Federfunk - Clap Clap 72. Vinnie Roussos - The Fading Echo 73. The Cube Guys, Albert Marzinotto - Que Rico 74. Dj Pp, Gabriel Rocha - Feel It 75. Luuk Van Dijk - Inside My Mind 76. Stef Davidse - Going Down

01. Stogov - Sounda 02. Frits Wentink, Dominic Oswald - Club Land 03. Akeem Raphael, Tiny Blue - Do It Again 04. Ross Couch - Too Far Gone 05. Promise Land, Alexander Som - Dancefloor 06. Somersault, Aron Volta - Time Out 07. Sond Zpace, Le Drux Justine - On the Podium (in a fashion house) 08. Mylo, James Bluck - Drop The Pressure 09. Twenty Six - No More 10. Zav, Jesse Bru, Scott Diaz Dub - Soul 11. Stogov - Smooth Turn 12. Tommy Trash, Dave Winnel - That Accordion Song 13. Julian, Lauti Mina - Disco Tool 14. Steve Aoki, Kream - Lies 15. Fdf - Under The Lights 16. Kinobe, Swag'S Flying High - Butterfly 17. Prospa - Motions 18. Olive F, Lucas Alexander - Soul Soup 19. B&S Concept, Zetbee - Memory 20. Disclosure - My Intention Is War (Fig ii) 21. Flavor Plus, Bhx1 - Take Me to the Top 22. L.P. Rhythm - I'm Here 23. Unknown7 - Shake That Ass 24. Lefti - Weego 25. Alaia, Gallo, Ida Flo - Shoulda Coulda 26. Butter - Miss U 27. Joxion, Kxne - Hype Unload 28. Citadelle & Aramis, Single Spark - Fading Out 29. Ezra Blissard - See The Signs 30. Eric Costa, Piem - Meua Opera 31. Devstar, Jeremy Sylvester - I Need Ya 32. Lexx London - Make You Feel 33. Cid, Taylr Renee, Mishell & Buka - Fancy $hit 34. Qubiko - Anemoia 35. Kleinfinger, Moiqe - 4luv 36. Calee - Borjita S Rhythm 37. Paco Caniza - That Simple 38. Dj Pp - The World 39. Claptone - Another Night 40. Dennis Quin - The Liberation 41. Finn, Ferreck Dawn, Robosonic - Sometimes The Going Gets A Little Tough 42. Katy Alex - Inside Out 43. Steve Bug - Good Time 44. Ben Miller, Kvision - Jumpin' 45. Chinonegro - Mi Gentee 46. Draxx - Back to the Sound 47. Luuk Van Dijk, Kolter - Good 4 U 48. Hey Jack - Terre Du Soleil 49. Nicolas Lacaille - Think About You 50. Becky Hill, Sonny Fodera, D.O.D, Wynter Gordon - Never Dirty Talk Alone 51. Man Without A Clue - All Get Down 52. Frank Storm - Sweat 53. Midnight In Amsterdam, Larakay Creeps - Trust 54. Jesusdapnk - Hot Springs 55. Stanny Abram - Wrong 56. Mattei & Omich, Re-Tide - Friday Night 57. Legit Trip - Move Your Body 58. Marcello, V.O.R. - Touch Me 59. Davide Toschi - Light Shadow 60. Louis Lennon - PERFECTO 61. Zetbee, Reiner Von Vielen, Chemars - Moonlight 62. Anderblast, Dan Ros, Peter Brown - Can You Feel Me 63. The Sunchasers - Move Your Body 64. Keepsix - Stay 65. Vincent Caira - Position 66. Tommy Morgan - Soul 67. Moullinex, Tee Flowers - Open House 68. Silque - Talk That Way 69. Groove Federation - Beer Goggles 70. Astrohertz - Move Your Body 71. Federfunk - Clap Clap 72. Vinnie Roussos - The Fading Echo 73. The Cube Guys, Albert Marzinotto - Que Rico 74. Dj Pp, Gabriel Rocha - Feel It 75. Luuk Van Dijk - Inside My Mind 76. Stef Davidse - Going Down

In the wise, immortal and paraphrased words of Julien, Rome wasn't built in a day but it took Emily basically that long to destroy it. Although, to be fair, she had some help. Luc and his casual womanizing ways sink the Bavazza account, and newcomer Princess Gianna puts Solitano a little too much on the map and, with an assist from "precious genius" Giancarlo, ruins the company's future with Muratori. Marcello finally reveals HIS true colors (they are not nice), and with all this going on, we could not agree more that it is time to beat a hasty retreat to Paris before Genevieve manages to set what's left of the office on fire.   Don't forget to rate and subscribe! Follow us on:  Twitter: @ih8itletswatch Instagram: @ih8itletswatchit Website: tinyurl.com/ih8itletswatchit Email: ihateitletswatchit@gmail.com    

Marcello Hernández (American Boy, SNL, Happy Gilmore 2) is a stand-up comedian, sketch performer, and actor. Marcello joins the Armchair Expert to discuss unsponsored gift selections from Marshalls, why Dominican kids are 12 years old but they're also 40, and thinking he may have finally found his writing process. Marcello and Dax talk about the influential character he adopted during Model UN, leaving his first wife (soccer) for his mistress (stand-up), and how a depressive episode amid Covid lockdown led to a full-time job in comedy. Marcello explains his uncertain fate at SNL following an initial sit-down with Lorne Michaels, the wholesome reason for featuring his mom in his work, and what his aspirations of becoming a teacher and a comic had in common.Follow Armchair Expert on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new content on YouTube or listen to Armchair Expert early and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/armchair-expert-with-dax-shepard/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Neste episódio do Pura Connection, André Bintang recebe Cristiano Marcello, faixa-preta formado na linhagem direta de Rickson e Royler Gracie, ex-lutador do PRIDE, UFC e fundador da CM System, uma das maiores equipes de MMA do Brasil.Cristiano compartilha sua trajetória autêntica: das raízes no Jiu-Jitsu tradicional à construção de um império no MMA. Um episódio que mergulha fundo na essência da arte marcial, na liderança vivida e na importância de preservar os códigos de honra, respeito e disciplina em meio à evolução do esporte.

Dial P for Poppin' In! This week, we're reviewing Netflix's new adaptation of Agatha Christie's 'Seven Dials' (12:36), and discuss our favorite mystery series/movies (32:56). Alexa also reviews Marcello Hernandez' new standup special 'American Boy' (37:54) and explains the viral Buttons 365 and how it made it onto SNL this weekend (47:10). We also discuss the resurgence of 2016 trends (57:47) and the latest BookTok drama (1:08:03).

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In this episode, we delve into the intricate world of the Chicago Outfit’s informants, featuring insights from my late friend, Cam Robinson, and Paul Whitcomb, a well-respected expert on the mob. This special compilation draws from past interviews and shorts that once highlighted various informants who operated during the notorious 1980s era of organized crime in Chicago. Through a series of concise segments, we explore the lives of key players who chose to turn against the Outfit, revealing the complex motivations and consequences of their decisions. We kick things off by revisiting the tale of Paul “Peanuts” Pansko, an influential figure leading the Polish faction of the Outfit. Pansko's criminal activities, including a racetrack heist, not only placed him in dangerous territory but also set into motion a chain of events that would later link to the infamous Family Secrets trial. It's during this journey that we outline how interconnected the informants’ narratives are, showcasing how Pansko’s actions inadvertently unraveled parts of the organization.   The discussion shifts to more dramatic stories, including Mario Rainone. Rainone's infamous decision to cooperate with the authorities opened the door to significant revelations about Lenny Patrick, one of the highest-ranking Outfit members to switch sides. Rainone's tapes ultimately led to the dismantling of major sections of the Outfit’s operations, including political connections that had long shielded them from legal repercussions.   We also explore the tale of Ken “Tokyo Joe” Eto, a Japanese mobster who thrived within the Outfit’s ranks. His attempts at self-preservation after surviving an assassination effort highlighted the stark realities faced by those who navigated the perilous landscape of organized crime. As he eventually became a witness for the prosecution, Eto’s insights illuminated the internal workings of one of Chicago’s most feared organizations. The episode further examines dramatic betrayals and deadly encounters that shaped the Outfit’s legacy. From the chilling events surrounding the murders of the Spilotro brothers, orchestrated by their own associates for reasons steeped in loyalty and betrayal, to the grim fate that met informants like Al Toco and the impact of domestic discord on organized crime, each tale is a window into the bleak realities faced by both mobsters and informants alike. As we round out the episode, we reflect on the cultural dynamics surrounding informants, particularly how personal relationships and family ties heavily influenced their decisions to cooperate. It becomes clear through the interviews that while fear of retribution often compels loyalty, the specter of betrayal looms large within the mob. This multifaceted examination blends personal stories with historical context, providing a deeper understanding of the Chicago Outfit’s complexity and its operatives. Join us in this retrospective journey through the shadows of organized crime as we pay homage to those who bravely shared their stories, revealing the inner workings of a criminal empire that continues to fascinate and terrify in equal measure. Hit me up on Venmo for a cup of coffee or a shot and a beer @ganglandwire Click here to “buy me a cup of coffee” Subscribe to the website for weekly notifications about updates and other Mob information. To go to the store or make a donation or rent Ballot Theft: Burglary, Murder, Coverup, click here To rent ‘Brothers against Brothers’ or ‘Gangland Wire,’ the documentaries click here.  To purchase one of my books, click here. Transcript [0:00] Well, hey, guys, after listening to Bob Cooley, one of the more damaging sources and witness and informant to the Chicago Outfit outside of the Calabrese family, [0:13] Nick and his nephew, Frank Jr., I got the rest of the Chicago Outfit informants on tap here. No, not really. They’re not coming in. But I did do a story. I did a series of shorts a few years, or I don’t know, two or three years ago, maybe. [0:32] I interviewed my late friend, Cam Robinson, rest in peace, Cam. So you get to hear from him again. And Paul Whitcomb, who is a Chicago outfit expert, he’s been on this. They used to have some kind of a round table show up there. I don’t know if they still have it or not with the Seiferts. But anyhow, I got these guys to sit down with me and talk about all the different informants in Chicago during the, it was during the 80s. So this is just kind of a series of shorts that I put up before. They’re six or eight minutes long, I think, each one of them, that they talk about different informants. This kind of threw it together as another little bonus episode we’ve done. And I went to Chicago, if you notice, after Johnny Russo, which I apologize for in a way, I don’t know. I mean, the guy’s got some crazy-ass stories, doesn’t he? Who am I to say that he didn’t do it? But most people know that he didn’t do most of that stuff. Anyhow, so I threw up another Chicago right away about the guy that had the race wire that they killed, James Reagan. [1:38] Then i had this interview that i’d been doing during those last couple weeks with bob cooley who’s appeared uh out of nowhere and he’ll maybe see him on some other shows now he’s he’s wanting to do shows he tells me so after hearing bob cooley talk i thought well i’m doing do one more i want to just throw it up as an extra uh from some of my old chicago outfit stuff and that’ll finish me off on the Chicago outfit for a while. I hadn’t, I hadn’t been in Chicago, uh, doing shows about Chicago for quite a while. And, and I didn’t want to, uh, neglect you guys. You know, I get a lot of books written about New York and I’ve got all these authors that are wanting to do these books about New York. Uh, not so much about Chicago. So if you got anybody that, you know, wants to, got a book and wants to come on the show, uh, talking about the outfit, why steer them to me. So anyhow, just sit back and relax and enjoy. [2:37] My late, great friend, Cam Robinson. One more look at Cam, for those of you who remember him, and Paul Whitcomb. And we’re going to talk about famous snitches from Chicago. Thanks, guys. Well, let’s move along now to, this is kind of interesting, Paul Peanuts Panczko, who was the leader of the Polish branch of the outfield. Is that what you would call Peanuts Panczko, the leader of the Polish branch? If the Polish branch is the Panczko family, which you could easily say there were three brothers, then yeah, that wouldn’t be right. We haven’t really done a show on them. I don’t know a whole lot about them other than they were released at all. So we said non-Italian, Peckerwood, as we call them at Kansas City, professional criminals who did a lot of business with different outfit people. And he did a robbery of a racetrack. I think it’s the Balmoral Racetrack. It’s the name of it. James Duke Basile and then Panczko was in trouble for that and he convinced Basile to come in and they did some talking remember anything about that situation, you know in a lot of ways you. [3:50] Panczko could be considered one of the first dominoes that eventually led to the Family Secrets trial. Panczko, as you said, led to Dookie Bazile, who they had done robberies together. Bazile led them to Scarpelli, who was a much higher guy. I mean, there’s debate, but he was, because there was a making ceremony at this time, but Scarpelli was pretty highly ranked. I mean, he was a known killer, and he was up there. He was in the wild bunch. But Scarpelli then did tell them about a lot of the things that Frank Calabrese had done. [4:28] He wasn’t known as well as Scarpelli had brought him up to be. And a lot of those things dominoed into what would eventually lead to family secrets years later. [4:42] Scarpelli, I think, did not know so much about Nick, but he did know about Frank. And so a lot of that information sort of filled in the gaps. And even though Frank Calabrese Jr. Led them led them to Nick They A lot of seeds were planted And can be traced back to Pianus Pansico Um. [5:01] So it is kind of an interesting line. Basile, he wore a wire on Scarpelli and not even talking about a lot of these things. It’s not the FBI knew about that. They were in a car together. Right. If I remember right, he even talked about a mob graveyard. They went up there and they found two or three bodies. One of them was connected. It wasn’t anybody really important, but one of them was connected to Harry Aleman. So it was a pretty important wearing of a wire on Scarpelli, who then came at himself for a while. And that’s what led to the family secrets. He talked about Frank Calabrese. Is that what you’re saying? Yeah, that’s right. And some of those bodies in that graveyard were 10 years apart, which was interesting. I’ve got, it’s on the map that I created, but some of those bodies, there was years in between them. So it was something they were going back to and they believed that there were a lot of things there they did not find. Yeah, because they built a health care facility or something. They built some big building over where there would have been bodies. Right. Right. And the fascinating thing about this is Scarpelli, like, just like Cam said, this guy was a serious killer. He was a muscle builder. He was a terrifying guy. I mean, he had almost inhuman physical strength. Yeah. And when he flipped, he was completely debriefed by the FBI and the DOJ and then decided to try and change his mind. [6:27] But before he could do that He hung himself in the bathroom Of the Metropolitan Correctional Center With his hands behind his back And a bag over his head, Who was he in prison with? Who was he in MCC with, Paul? Was it anybody? He did happen to be in the MCC with the German at the time. He bound his hands behind his back and put a bag over his own head. He did. He did. And so the outfit continues to somehow persuade people to take their own lives rather than testify against them. [7:07] It’s a hell of a way to die by suicide it is by suicide at least they didn’t have arrows in his back, not as far as we know yeah it was terrible he cut his own head off I saw a cartoon once that the homicide guy liked to go ahead and maybe real suckle of suicide because then you could just walk away from it so there’s a dead body laying there with a bunch of arrows at his back and a homicide detective standing over him with a hand and pencil and says, hmm, suicide, huh? [7:44] Got the inside joke. It worked homicide. You see how those guys sometimes will try to make something into a suicide that probably is a homicide. On the other hand, we had one, we had a mob guy, he wasn’t really a mob associate, who had gone to Vegas. He lost a lot of money and they found his body in his car at the airport parking lot after coming back from Vegas and they found out later lost a lot of money and the car was parked up against the fence and he was shot in the head and there was no gun in the car you know found so just assume that somebody shot him in his head the car kept going and rolling up against the fence. [8:25] But this one detective, I remember Bob Pence is his name. He was dumb. And he started, he went back over and he dusted that car for prints again. And he got some more evidence out of it. And then he went back to the airport and he looked and started asking questions. And he found out later that somebody who had a pickup truck parked there had a week later, three or four days later, come back and got his truck. When he got home he found a pistol inside the bed of his truck and he called the airport or he called somebody turned it in Pinson found that pistol that was a pistol that that shot the guy so Pinson's theory was he was rolling along in his car he shot himself in the head and then he flipped that pistol out is with a reaction he flipped it out and went in the bed in that pickup and then it rolled on up against the fence and they ruled it a suicide wow damn that’s not that different than Scarpelli I mean the fbi to this day insists it was suicide yeah well, Oh, well, right. All right. Let’s move along to Mario. John, the arm. Rainone. [9:41] Is that correct, Cam? That yeah, that’s Rainone. Yeah. So tell us about that. I know we talked about this, you know, a little bit about this one. [9:50] This is kind of a funny one. He was he was sent to kill a building inspector. Raynaud was with the Grand Avenue crew and so he’s en route to kill this guy and this is one of those mob blunders and he sees a couple guys following him and it’s Rudy Fredo and Willie Messino and he recognizes him when he’s driving over there and it’s important to point out who these guys are, Cam, not to interrupt you Willie Messino, was the right hand man and bodyguard for Tony Accardo for 30 years I mean, he was serious, serious business. Rudy Frayto, you know, the chin, but Massino was serious news. If you saw Willie Massino, you knew he were in for trouble. Yeah, he wasn’t there as backup to do anything except clean up after Rainone, including Rainone. So Rainone saw the writing on the wall. He pulls up and he goes straight to the FBI. [10:54] And he informs, he talks to them and gives them his information. And later on, he sort of regrets doing so, denies that he ever did. Uh, there were, there were, uh, articles written about him. There’s a, there’s a Chicago Tribune writer, John Cass, and Ray Nolan had a back and forth with him writing letters. This is how these mob guys in Chicago operate, talking about, I’m, I ain’t no beefer. And, uh. Once he was out of prison in 2009, he was busted several more times. If you can believe it, he stayed in the criminal life. He was robbing a liquor store with another guy. And the guy he was robbing with, this is why I jump ahead a little bit, was a guy named Vincent Forliano. He claimed that he didn’t even know Fratto or Messino. These were guys he didn’t know, so he never would have informed against them. The guy he was robbing the liquor store with and he was committing other robberies with, Vincent Forliano, was Fredo’s son-in-law. [11:56] So he was committing robberies with a guy related to the guy, but he didn’t know who they were. And to say that somebody didn’t know, as Paul said, Willie Messino, is just ludicrous. Anybody in the criminal atmosphere, period, knew who Willie Messino was because you were probably paying money to it. to exist. And this is extremely important because Rainone, at the time this happened, Rainone cooperated long enough to record conversations with Lenny Patrick. That’s right. That’s right. And that set dominoes in place that would lead to the fall of the outfit. Even though he tried to take back his cooperation, to say he never cooperated, I’ve heard those tapes that were played in trials that I participated in, so I I know better. Uh, and that’s why they call him Mario flip flop Rainone because he, uh, would cooperate and uncooperate and then cooperate. But he is the one who got Lenny Patrick on the hook. Yeah. [13:00] Interesting, interesting. Let’s just continue on with this Lenny Patrick because we weren’t going to talk about him. That’s a good lead hand to talk about another, really one of the most important informants that year who testified. [13:13] Can you talk about the domino that led to the end? Rainone really, really flipped the domino that kicked over. Go ahead, Paul. Well, Lenny Patrick was the highest, and even to this day, remains the highest ranking member of the outfit to ever turn state’s evidence. The guy was a capo in all but name. He had been in charge of Rogers Park, the gambling. He was essentially the head of the Jewish arm of the mafia, kind of the Meyer Lansky figure of Chicago. And when the Lawndale neighborhood moved north to Rogers Park, he moved with them, and he had his own crew. He reported directly to Gus Alex, who was, of course, at the very top, and Sam Carlisi. And he was dealing with Marcello and Carlesi in a number of different outfit ventures, loan sharking. He personally had been staked by Carlesi with a quarter million in cash to put out on the street. And he was involved in extortions Bombings of theaters All these things directly at the command of Sam Carlisi Who was then the boss of bosses of the Chicago outfit So when Rainone got him on tape They set up what was the beginning of the end for the outfit And I think people need to understand who Gus Alex is also For people outside of Chicago Gus Alex was. [14:40] Basically, I guess you could call him the equivalent of maybe the consigliere in Chicago. When you look at Chicago, the triumvirate in the 70s, once a guy like Paul Ricca died and several major outfit leaders died in the early 70s. [14:58] Tony Accardo decided that the outfit would be led by himself, by Joy Iupa, and the political wing and all of the non-Italians and all of the grift and a lot of aspects would be led by Gus Alex. So he was essentially on the same level as Joey Iupa, and he was responsible for much more for things of greater import than Joey Iupa. I mean, controlling the political arm and all the payoffs and all of that is much, much more than the streets and the murders. So all the politics and all the anything that had to do was definitely fell under gus alex and he was part of a ruling triumvirate he was a non-italian part of a ruling triumvirate with iupa and uh acardo so he was the the leader top of the outfit and he had been for years going back to going back to the 30s and the 40s 40 he had come up under, the Murray the Camel Humphreys and had made those connections he was the most connected guy in the Chicago outfit, so for a guy like Lenny Patrick to be. [16:15] Rollover against is essentially the political leader, national political leader and political leader of Chicago. This was absolutely crippling to the outfit. That was he wiped out the entire political arm of the Chicago outfit. After Lenny Patrick brought down Gus Alex, this became a basically a street crime organization. It was that those political contacts. I mean, I think that’s a fair statement, right, Paul? Those political contacts and judges, I mean, that was all but eliminated with Gus Alex going away. You’re absolutely right, Cam. And he not only took out Gus Alex, but he took out the boss of the Italians, too. That’s right, yeah. Both of them at the same time. He wiped out the outfit, and you put it beautifully by saying it became a street crime organization. You think about the division of labor and it started with IUP and IUP and. [17:19] La Pietra, Jackie Cerone, they had all the gambling, a lot of the sports gambling, but they also had the skim from Las Vegas, and they ran all that stuff, while Gus Alex, along with Lenny Patrick, ran all that politics, and you can’t have a mob organization if you don’t have cover politically. That’s why even in Kansas City, we’re pretty clean here, but we still never had any real mob prosecutions. [17:47] And it certainly had very few, if any, little, if any mob prosecutions at Cook County. And you couldn’t even get convicted of a real crime, murder, assault, or something. It’s just a straight-out crime. You weren’t even trying to do a RICO, I think, on anybody. So it was, you know, they just operated with impunity. Well, you took out that whole gambling side. That was all the money coming in. And then shortly thereafter, you take out the political side, who then turns back and gets the new boss on the gambling side and loan sharking and all that. [18:23] I’ll tell you, by 1990, the outfit’s gone. It really is. It still exists to a degree, but Sam Carlisi was the last traditional old line boss of the outfit. you, that, in my opinion, that ever ruled. After that, it was never the same. Yeah, I think a guy like Gus Alex, you know, like you said, Gary, you had Aiuppa who was dealing with gambling, but I think that’s a lot of, there’s a lot of optics to that, you know, and you’ve got all these cities who have got characters who are not Italian, Gus Alex in Chicago, and, you know, as Paul said, Meyer Lansky, who was New York, and you had Mashie Rockman in Cleveland, and these characters not italians so they know when to step back and let and let the italians talk but that doesn’t mean that they’re not running things it’s just for the optics of city to city where the italians have to see that they’re dealing with italians they don’t walk in the room it doesn’t mean that behind the scenes they’re not pulling the levers they just because of of the uh uh criminal um. [19:34] The the criminal view of of non-italians in that world sort of sort of their own prejudices these guys don’t always walk in the room when they’re dealing with other cities gus alex is is sitting down with anybody in chicago but you go to kansas city you go to new york, you know meyer lansky would leave the room when they were when they were talking you know italian to Italian. And the same thing with Gus Alex or Mace Rockman or any of those other guys who are not Italian. It was just an optics city to city. It doesn’t mean that they weren’t pulling the levers. Is it Yehuda or Jehuda, Cam? Jehuda. I’ve always heard of Jehuda. Yeah, Jehuda. So he kind of dealed with the IRS that year. [20:23] He must have had some. The IRS was really strong working the mob in Chicago. I’ve noticed several references to IRS investigations. We did not have that in Kansas City, and the IRS did a little bit, but they were not as strong as they were up in Chicago. [20:38] Yeah, he met with an agent, Tom Moriarty, who’s been around and worked Chicago for a long time. He was a pretty well-known guy up here. But Bill Jehota worked under Ernest Rocco Infelice, who was a real powerhouse going back a long time. And out in Cicero, and his crew, a lot of these crews had their own little names, and they called the good shit Lollipop. He was a huge gambling enterprise, you know. And they bought a house up in Lake County, which is north of the city. It’s funny, this house they bought was actually the family that had lived in it. The son had murdered the family. It was a murder house before the outfit bought it. and uh they bought it used it as a as a gambling den and and after that moved out they used it for prostitution and they would park cars at a nearby motel that they ran and then then have a uh a, valet service that drove him to this this gambling house and there was also quite a few uh murders that uhJahoda witnessed i’m sure he took no part in it he just happened to be standing outside of the house when they when they these murders were committed there was a uh was it hal smith and um. [21:57] Oh i can’t remember the they killed somebody else in this home and they burnt these were guys who didn’t want to pay his tree tags, and they were gamblers who refused to give in. And he brought down this entire crew. I mean, Rocco and Felice was… There’s a famous picture of the day after the Spolatros were killed. And it was really the upper echelon of the up that you’ve got. You’ve got little Jimmy Marcello. You’ve got the boss, Sam Wings-Carlesi. You’ve got the street boss, Joe Ferriola. And you’ve got Rocco and Felice, who’s right there. These are the four top guys, basically, in the outfit as far as at this time, the Cicero crew had risen to the top. That was the powerhouse crew. And so he was involved in those discussions because he was such a powerhouse out there with Ferriola being the street boss. So he was, it really can’t be thatJahodatestimony that eventually brought down this crew was really, it really crippled that crew for a long time. Well, those people that went down in that trial have only in the last five years come out of prison. Yeah, we’ve actually had been talking to somebody. We’ve had the… [23:13] Opportunity to meet he brought down uh uh robert um to go beat um bellavia and another guy who doesn’t like to be mentioned who runs a pretty successful pizza pizza chain up in lake county and uh these guys went down for a long time the beat was down for 25 years and he just came out. [23:39] So and billJahoda have if you read his testimony it is kind of kind of odd that he was standing outside of the building and just looked in the window and they were committing a murder and he just he he places himself outside of the house witnessing a murder through the window which is convenient when you’re the one testifying against murderers it certainly is yeah. [24:03] So so that was he was involved in the gambling so that makes sense then the irs got him and millions of dollars millions of dollars a month they were bringing and he met uh, i don’t remember paul and you did he he contacted moriarty right or did moriarty reach out to him because he was under investigation i i thought Jahoda was was worried about himself so he reached out to them i can’t remember the details i think you’re right yeah i i think he was worried about his own his own safety gary and he reached out to moriarty and they met up at a hotel just outside the city on the uh up in the northwest and uh they talked about things i actually found the location and on the little map you can find where where they met each other but he they met each other in disgust and they would meet different locations and and jahuda wore a wire and some of those some of those wiretaps are they really make for that. [25:05] That those conversations come right out of the movie just i love what we’re doing out here and i love my job and and you actually where i’m going to make you trunk music i mean you really hear these things that that you see it right in the movies i mean you you can’t write the dialogue that these guys are actually using it’s it’s it’s you know it it comes straight out of a book i mean You’ve got, you’ve got, uh, this is the toughest dialogue you’ll ever hear. Interesting. How’d you buy it? Where’d you find that at? Is that, uh, it’s probably not the audio in probably anywhere. No book or something. Yeah. You can, if you look up, if you look up different, different, you know, you go on newspapers.com or you go in different, uh, I believe, uh, I’ve got, um, uh, mob textbook by, um, Howard Abedinsky. I’ve got a couple of copies of his, of his textbook, organized crime. And he’s got some clips of it. This guy who owns a pizza shop up north is talking about how he loves his job. He loves what he does. And it’s funny to hear he talk about smashing somebody and loving what you do. Really? I’ve heard a few conversations like that back at the station house. [26:25] I don’t care. It’s on both sides. Is that what you’re saying? When you live in that world. Those guys can go either direction. [26:37] Well, let’s talk about ex-Chicago cops. Speaking of cops, let’s talk about, Vince Rizza, his daughter actually appeared on that Chicago Mob Housewives, or they tried to do a show. And Frank Schweiss’ daughter was on it. And Pia Rizza, who has gotten some notoriety as a model or something, I can’t remember. And she really, she was tight. She would not talk about her dad at all. I read an interview of her. She would just talk about her dad at all. But he came in and he testified against Harry Aleman, of all people, and linked him to the murder of this bookie, Anthony Ritlinger. Remember that one? [27:22] Go ahead, Paul. No, that one I’m not very up on, Cam. I’m sorry. So, Ritlinger, I believe he didn’t want to pay his street tax, if I’m right, Gary. Yeah, you’re right. He had been warned. Rattlinger had been warned that he needs to pay, he needs to pay, and he was making a good deal of money. And Ratlinger was he was brought in just the normal course of action with the wild bunch because he was a wild bunch murder I’m a little rusty but here it comes so he was a wild bunch killing, he was brought in he was warned it was the typical Harry Ailerman and if I’m remembering correctly and people correct me if I’m not it was Butch Petruccelli they sat him down. [28:11] Usually it would be Butch and, um, uh, Borsellino who would do the talking, uh, Tony Borsellino, and they would do the talking. And then afterwards, Butch Petruccelli would just sit down and glare. So he was a pretty scary guy. And he had that, uh, uh, Malocchio, the, the evil eye, and he would just glare at people. And that would send the message and Rattlinger didn’t, didn’t listen. He was making too much money, he’s not going to pay any damn Degos, that kind of line. And so he, of course, fell victim to these guys. And I believe he may have been trunk music. I think I remember this one, Matt, but I can’t remember. Yeah, I got this one. He went to a restaurant. That’s right. That’s right. And he had already, his daughter lived with him. I’m not sure about the wife, but he had warned his family to take all kinds of extra cautious. He knew something was coming. And it was, you know, after reading that thing, it’s, It’s kind of like, well, we talked about Spilotro taking off their jewelry. Ken Eto did this similar kind of a thing and told his wife he may not be coming back. [29:22] I tell you, another guy that did the same thing was Sonny Black. That’s right. It came out about Joe Pistone, the Donnie Brasco story. He did the same thing. He went to a sit-down or a meeting, and he took off his jewelry, I believe left his billfold, when he went to the meeting. this. Ken Eto was the same way. Ken Eto, I think, thought he could talk his way out. I think all of them thought they could talk their way out of it. So Rettlinger went out by himself and sat in a prominent place in this local restaurant that was really well known up there in the north side. It’s north of downtown Chicago, and I can’t remember the name of it. [30:02] And he just sat there and pretty soon a car pulls up and two guys run in kind of like a Richard Cain kind of a deal and just start popping. And that was a Harry Aleman deal. That’s right. He did, I believe. There’s an old guy who married the girlfriend of Felix Adlericio, I believe. He and this woman are sitting out in front of their brownstone, and Aleman and some other dude pull out and get out when guys walk up to him and shoot him and kill him. [30:31] And so that was – Yeah, that was Petrocelli and Aleman walked up, And he had been, he had been dating, uh, uh, Aldericio’s, Alderico’s girlfriend. Now that’s the famous hit from beyond the grave. Because we’re going to go on the old Samuel’s just sitting in the lawn chair thinking he’d got it made. That’s right. You know, Gary, you and I did the show on the outfit, uh, a long time ago. No, I’m sorry. On the wild bunch, a long time ago. So a lot of those, and they did so much work back in the day. A lot of those run together, but yeah, you’re now, uh, now that you’re right, writing her was he was eating in a restaurant. I’m, Uh, I can’t remember the name. It may have been, been Luna’s, but he was, went out in public. He thought he’d be safe. And like you said, a lot of these guys have a six cents because they come up on the street and they know these things. And, uh, like a guy like Sammy and Reno knew it was coming. He was dodging them for a long time, but they, they know that their time is coming. Eventually they just, they stay ahead of it for a while and figure they can fight their way out or talk their way out. And yeah, they, he was blown away right in public. Like it was similar to the, I remember it being similar to the, to the Richard Cain murder. And this was in, it was right around the same time. It was, it was in the mid seventies, 75, 74, 75, 76. It might’ve been 75 that writing or happened right, right in the middle of the restaurant. [31:58] I’ve been a lot cheaper to pay the street tax, I reckon. You know, and it wasn’t, I don’t recall that they’re asking for so much, but once these murder started happening yeah i think it was it wasn’t like it was half or 75 i think they just wanted it was you know it might have been a quarter it might have just been a flat fee across the board but once that street tax was was instituted i mean we’ve talked about this before gary that was when the wild bunch was out there that was that was they really didn’t play around When Ferriola told these guys, get everybody in line, [32:31] they really cracked down and they weren’t playing at all. You pay or you die. And guys like Alem and Patrick Shelley, whether it was right in public or whatever, in the outfit in the 70s, Paul, you know this from Richard Cain and several others. They just write in public would just blow you away. and writing her was just was almost textbook just like the Richard Cain it was it was right in the right in the restaurant yeah I’ll tell you I’ll tell. [33:05] I was conflating him with Hal Smith. Okay. I’ll tell you something about those mob hits. When they kill somebody in public like that in a public way, more than likely it’s because whoever the victim is has been alerted, and they can’t get anybody to get close to them. They will already try to send somebody around to get them isolated, and when they can’t get them isolated, then they want them bad enough. They’ll just lay, as Frank Calabrese, I heard him say once, well, lay on them. And I thought, oh, that’s interesting. Well, lay on them. I read that somewhere else. They use that term when you’re following somebody and you’re trying to set them up, or yet they lay on them. Calabrese even said, you know, you’re like, get an empty refrigerator box and hide inside of it. I mean, it’s just like the kind of stuff we used to do at the intelligence unit to run surveillances on people. And so they’ll lay on them for a while until they can get you somewhat isolated. And if they can’t, then they’ll just take you out in public. It might be to send a message, but I don’t think so because it’s so risky to get somebody in public. You can have a young, all-fitty cop in there that you didn’t even notice, and he comes out blazing. And, you know, it’s just not worth it. Even if you take him out, he’s probably got to get you. [34:21] So it’s kind of a last resort. A desperation. Yeah, it’s desperation because they can’t get you isolated. [34:28] You look at some of these public murderers, guys like Richard Cain or Ridinger, like you said, who was on the watch. Sam Annarino, who was right on Cicero. [34:39] A guy like Chris Carty, who was years later. I mean, these are guys who would have been smart enough and street smart enough to be on the watch, to watch their step, to know what was going on. With the exception of a guy like Michael Cagnoni, who just happened to be difficult to get, and he probably might have had an idea that something was happening, but I think just he was a family guy, and so it was hard to isolate. They blew him up on the interstate, but I think that in general, that’s a good point, Gary. These guys, if they just run up and blow away, it’s just a last resort. That’s an excellent point. I have always been in that camp of, oh, that must be sending a message. But you, with your experience, I think you’re exactly right. One thing, guys, I think we’re mixing up Sambo Cesario with Sam Annarino. I was thinking when they – yeah, you’re right, Paul. I was thinking, though, when they blew away Sam Annarino in the parking lot with his family, though, they had been trying to get him for several months. And they finally just went after him in the parking lot, called in a robbery, and blew him away in the furniture store parking lot. That was what I meant. Yeah, Gary was referring to Sambo earlier. I just meant they had been trying to get Sam Annarino for a long time, and when they couldn’t, they just got him in the parking lot. [36:08] Well, interesting. You know, no matter how much terror these guys strike in the heart of their underlings, in the end, they still will turn once in a while. And I think people don’t really not turn because they’re afraid of getting killed so much if they don’t turn because they don’t want to have their family suffering the disgrace of them being a rat or a snitch. I think that’s more important to be a man and go out like a man in this subculture and believe me I’ve lived in a subculture where being a man and being a tough guy is more important than anything else, I think that’s the most important thing that keeps people from coming in you’re like a wimp you’re a puss, you can’t take it, can’t handle it you know what I mean you can’t handle five years I could do five years standing on my head or a tray like the dude told me so uh you know but even even with all that and still there’s a certain percentage that will end up coming in sure and usually there are people that either don’t care about their family like lenny patrick yeah or that don’t have close family so that they don’t have it so much of that pressure that you’re talking about gary because you make a really valid point that that that cultural value is so strong yeah yeah it’s it’s. [37:36] In a lot of these small towns, you see in Detroit where they’re all family tied in and everything, you don’t see informants. I think they’ve had one. Kansas City, as you said, Gary, you don’t see. But then you look at a place like Rochester where they’re all just lower tier mob guys. Everybody was informing on everybody because they really weren’t as upper echelon sort of mob guys. So I think that, like you said, once you get that culture seeped in, you’ve got those families and all, there’s a lot of factors. But if it’s a deep-rooted mob town, you really don’t see a lot of real informants. [38:11] So, guys, now we’ve got one that I did a show on. I did a couple of shows on him. I talked to the FBI agent who brought him in and dealt with him for quite a while. Ken Tokiojo Eto. He survived a murder attempt. When that didn’t happen for him with the outfit, what happened after that? [38:32] I believe his attempted assassins got killed themselves. So tell me a little bit about Tokyo Joe Eto. There’s a photograph I have from the late 50s, early 60s And it shows Joe Ferriola And a couple of other heavyweights Hanging around with a young Ken Eto, And a lot of people didn’t know who Ken Eto was But he ran the Japanese game, Gambling, Bolita And lots of money Poured into the outfit through Tokyo Joe As they called him And there was a rumor that perhaps Tokyo Joe was going to turn under a little bit of pressure. And so Jasper Campisi put three slugs in the back of his head. [39:22] Miraculously, he survived three slugs at point blank range. And if he wasn’t going to turn state’s evidence before, he certainly had a powerful incentive to do so now. He seems to insist As I’ve heard that he was not His intention was not It’s hard to say at this point But he says he had no intention Of flipping and that he’s not sure What the evidence was against him But he was not going to flip until, It was Yeah. [39:55] I’m drawing a blank, Paul. Who was it that sent? It wasn’t the saint. It was Vincent Solano. He was kind of Vincent Solano, who was a union guy and a made guy up there. He kind of had which one. [40:11] He was a capo. And which crew was it? Do you remember? He was on the north side. North side crew. North side crew. And actually, Ken went to Vince Solano and had a talk with him. Said you know what i can do this he was looking at a tray i had a dude tell me what’s that pressure and tried to get him to talk and he said uh he said what am i gonna get out of this a tray he said man i can do a tray standing on my head and i threw him right then that’s right gotta talk to me so uh and that’s all he had to do but solano for some reason uh who knows what was in his head because uh ken Eto had made him a lot of money a lot of money and he was a tough little dude he had he had survived he had been put in the uh concentration camps if you will during the internment camps yeah internment camps and then came as a young man up chicago and been around for a long time by the time this all came down he’d been with him for a long time and made him a lot of money and all kinds of different gambling operations but particularly the bolita. [41:13] So uh it just didn’t make sense i heard one thing that these guys in chicago got the idea Yeah, to keep the noise down, they were loading their own rounds with lighter loads of powder. I don’t know. They had like a hit car up there. The guys in Chicago were pretty sophisticated or tried to be. And so they used these lighter loads. And when it went into his head, it just didn’t penetrate his skull. I remember I was at the hospital once, and there was a young guy who had gotten shot in the head. And they said that the bullet was not a good bullet because it went in under his skin and then went under his scalp, along his skull, and then lodged up on his forehead. [41:56] Wow. And so Eto was kind of the same way. Those bullets were probably lodged up underneath his scalp. He pulled himself to a neighboring, I believe it was a pharmacy that was right there, a corner store. And then that guy went to help him. I think he had to dial a call of 911 or whatever. 911 was in place then. He had to call for help for himself from a phone booth. You know, he saved his own life by being smart and playing dead. Yeah, that’s right. And you look at Chicago, it’s a city of neighborhoods, and you’ve got the Mexican town, and you’ve got the different towns, and you’ve got Chinatown where there’s so much money and so much gambling. And while Haneda was Japanese and there’s obviously division between Japanese and Chinese, it would be much easier for him to go in and then some of these outfit guys and because of different things going on back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. But he could go into neighborhoods and represent the outfit in ways in different communities that the outfit wouldn’t go into or a lot of these made guys. [43:12] And that gave him entry into a lot of communities. In the Asian community, there’s a lot of gambling that he was able to tap into. He was smart enough to see that as a route that maybe the Italian guys didn’t, just like Lenny Patrick, who we’ve talked about in other episodes, had that access into the Jewish communities and other Jewish gangsters. There’s a lot of gambling there. If you can get somebody who has an in to different communities, that’s really a way to go and that’s part of why he made so much money. A game like BolEto wouldn’t normally be and that’s huge in the Hispanic communities and huge with Asians also. You know in kansas city that’s interesting that you should point that out camp we had a um large vietnamese community moved in after the the boat peoples when it started and they moved in through the same church uh. [44:09] Sacred Heart Church and Don Bosco Center that the Italians moved in, the Sicilians moved into back in the turn of the century, the same neighborhoods. And Italians are getting successful and they’re moving out the suburbs and the Vietnamese are moving in and creating the Vietnamese restaurants and Vietnamese shops. And they brought, they have a love for gambling. Like you said, they have huge love for gambling. They don’t drink so much or do so many drugs, but they do love to gamble, it seemed to me like. [44:36] And so they had their own book. he was called the king a guy a friend of mine told me a story uh there’s a mob book he got on the periphery that neighborhood’s got a joint and he he was running a sports book and he had a lot of action going in and out of his joint so this one vietnamese guy had a big debt owed to the king so he goes down and talks to this guy’s name was Larry Strada, he ends up getting killed by some other uh mobsters in a deal they thought he was going to testify but i just needed to hear are there, this young, middle-aged Vietnamese guy goes down to the Caddyshack, Larry Strada’s bar. And he starts telling him about the king. He said, man, he said, the king, you take all your business. He said, he got all business down here. He take all your business. He said, you know, you need to do something about the king. He said, you know, we’re close to the river here. And then he made a motion across his throat like he was cutting his throat. So he was trying to get out of his gambling debt to convince this Italian, La Cosa Nostra bookie to go back and kill me yeah king piano. [45:42] You know i’ve heard a lot of stories and some of them are true some are not that one had to ring a truth to it it had a definite ring of truth that that got to do that playing them against each other yeah you bet and you know another thing about tokyo joe and you know he could testify But Ben Solano had Campizé and Gattuso killed right away. Found them in the trunk of their car, I think. Maybe at the airport, even. [46:09] Chicago trunk music, but they have some saying like that. And so Solano knew that they could testify against him, and they didn’t want to go down for attempted murder, more than likely, and he just didn’t take a chance. So he had them killed, and I can’t remember if he went down behind this or not. But another thing Tokyo Joe was able to do, I mean, he certainly could expose all the inner workings of what he knew about to the FBI, which gives you a lot of tips on where to go, who to work on, and maybe where to throw up microphones or some wiretaps. But he also traveled around he came to Kansas City during the skimming trial because they’re working on the Chicago hierarchy. So they just fly him into town. They show him that picture, the last separate picture where everybody’s in the picture. And they say, now, who’s that? Oh, that’s Aiuppa. Okay, then who’s that? Oh, that’s Vince Solano. Yeah, he reports to Aiuppa. You know, and who’s that guy? I can’t remember the other people at all. So the nation said that Joe is up hard. Oh, yeah, he reports to this guy. So to show the organization of the mob in Chicago and that it is an organization that gives orders to have other people carry it to make the RICO case, that he was a storyteller for that. And he didn’t know anything about the skim at all. But he was a storyteller on getting the mob name and the organization in front of a jury. That’s huge, as you know, Paul. [47:35] Absolutely. We had a similar arrangement during the Carlesi trial about how [47:40] the Carlesi crew operated and who was who, and to tell the story. Yeah. You have to make it a story. Let’s take a look at Betty Toco, which, uh, this is pretty interesting. There was a, um, I’m not sure. Albert Toco was your husband. Remind me what his position was at the outfit at that time. So Al Toco was, there’s sort of a division on who was the leadership of, who was the central leader of Chicago Heights. There’s Dominic Tuts Palermo and Al Toco, who was really a powerhouse in Chicago Heights. And Tuts Palermo was definitely highly connected and across the pond too, also in Italy. But uh Toco was involved in the in the chop shop wars really really heavily involved and he had a lot of connections in chicago too he was involved with lombardo and a lot of these chop shops throughout chicago he had a lot of partnerships and so this was a 30 million dollar a year racket stolen cars chop shops international car rings uh car rings throughout stolen car rings throughout the country. Toco was responsible for burying the Spolatro brothers. It was very sectioned off. Each crew had a part in their murder. And then Chicago Heights was responsible for the burial. [49:02] And they were down in Enos, Indiana. They got kind of turned around a little bit. They were down a farm road. They were burying them in a freshly tilled field. And the road where they’re on, there’s a little side road that you would drive down. There’s very little down there. I’ve, I’ve seen it, but a car happened to come down middle of night and they were in a, there’s a, there were a couple of feet off of a wooded area and they see this car coming down and they sort of all panicked and before they had a chance to cover the area or really do anything, it just looked like a freshly dug, it really just looked like freshly dug mound. And so they all fled and three of Toco’s guys went one way and he went the other. They had the car in both radios. [49:46] He’s wandering around barefoot, and he calls his wife finally. She shows up, and he’s screaming and yelling. And he runs to Florida, and he’s waiting for permission to come back from Joe Ferriola. He’s worried he’s going to get killed because they find the Spallachos immediately because the farmer sees his field all messed up, freshly tilled ground, and it looks really suspicious, like somebody had been poaching deer and burying the carcass. Uh but Toco was a tyrant to his wife he was he was horrible to her he was he was when you think of what a mob guy was that was Toco you know tipping the guy who mows his lawn the kid who mows his lawn hundred bucks and wandered around town everybody knows him but he’d come home and unlike a lot of these guys he was he was a real you know a real. [50:36] Real bastard to his wife you know and for years she put up with this sort of abuse and finally after this this happened and it was in the news and all he finally pushed her too far and she began informing on him and and he was arrested later on he was in his jail cell talking about all the murders he had committed and and this and that about his wife and uh his his uh uh A cellmate repeated everything that he said to try and lessen his sentence. So really, Toco got buried by his big mouth and his terrible behavior. He initially fled to Greece before he was arrested, and they extradited him back from Greece. So this is, I mean, Toco is like deep in mob behavior. [51:22] I mean, fleeing the country and all. I mean, it doesn’t get much more mafia than Al Toco. I hesitate to use that word with Chicago, but that was, Al Toco was running deep. and that Betty Tocco’s testimony eventually led to the trial of Al Tocco. And that was really a blow to the Chicago Heights crew that nowadays, I mean, they continued on and had a few rackets, but after the eventual trial that stemmed from that, it really wasn’t, there’s not much activity now. I’m in that area and there’s just, there’s really nothing here. [51:59] Interesting. Now, so Tony and Michael Spilotro had been lured to somebody’s house on the promise that Michael was going to be made. It’s my understanding. I believe that’s what Frank Collada had reported. And some other people, not part of the Chicago Heights crew, killed him. How did that go down? And how did they pass off the body? You guys, is there anything out there about that? Wasn’t that the family secrets trial, maybe? It was. And, of course, it’s been popularly portrayed in the movie Casino. And it’s surprisingly accurate Except for the fact That where they were beaten But what happened was Little Jimmy Marcello called them. [52:41] And said Sam, meaning Sam Carlisi, the boss, wanted to see them. And they knew that that was ominous because of what was going on beyond the scope of this show. But they took off the jewelry. They left. They told their wives, if we’re not back by 930, it’s not good. They really did not suspect that it was to make Michael. That’s what Collada said. You’re absolutely right about that, Gary. But I don’t think that’s correct at all. They knew that it was bad. And they went. He took a pistol, which was against the rules. They hit him a pistol. Tony hit a pistol on his brother, which you do not do when you go to see the boss. And they were picked up by, by Marcello and taken to a house. I, uh, was it Bensonville? Yeah. Up in Bensonville. Uh, in, in the basement, they walked down the stairs and all of a sudden they looked into the eyes of Carlici and, uh, DeFranzo and everybody, the whole, all the couples were there to spread the, the, uh, liability around and they were beaten to death with, with fists and feet, uh, in, in that basement and then transported to that burial ground, which coincidentally was just maybe a couple hundred yards away from Joey Aupa’s farm. [54:00] Right. So I guess that they must have had, uh, Toco standing by, because I don’t believe he was in that basement. I like that. He must have had him standing by to go grab the bodies and take them out. Really interesting. He should have had the old Doug before he got there. You know, that’s what they always say. First you dig the hole then you go do the murder right and i don’t think he had it done before he got there yeah i don’t i really that’s a good that’s a good point gary i really don’t know and nobody’s ever come forward to say what the status of the hole was beforehand uh you know it was a deep it was a deep it was it was a pretty deep hole uh but they may have had a dug ahead of Tom, but, but, uh, cause they knew the location and it’s pretty obscure location. So they had clearly been there before. And, and, you know, everybody knew that that was, I, I hope was, I got it right. Farm. And, uh, So they may have had it dug, and they just did a shoddy job covering it up. [55:05] But I also haven’t heard the specific details about how they handed it off to Toco. I don’t recall seeing that in Calabrese’s testimony. Yeah, it was Nick Calabrese that testified about that. It brought up the light. He named the killer. So he may not have gone that far, probably having Toco and having his wife testify that he did do this. that she picked him up out there. It was just a piece of the entire prosecution on the spot, which it really never was a trial or anything on that. I don’t believe. Another odd thing is he, I believe he ranted and raved the entire car ride back. And from where he was, you would run up with, It’s now turns into Indianapolis. So it’s a good car ride from where they were to Chicago Heights. I believe he ranted and raved about the guys and his crew and the burial and everything, the entire car ride, which was not something most guys would do in front of their wives. But I really, especially when he treated like that. Right. And complained about how long it took her to get there and everything. So she was able to verify a lot of what Calabrese was saying from the final end of it. Interesting. A friend of mine was in the penitentiary, and he said, there’s a guy in there who called himself a verifier. He said, what do you mean? He said, I’m a professional verifier. What he was, he was an informant. That’s what he was, but he called himself a verifier. [56:33] A girl would come to him and say, well, I heard this, this, and this. Is that true or not? He’d say, well, that’s true. That’s not true. [56:40] I guess that’s a more preferable term. Yeah, she was a verifier. Well, that was great. I really appreciate having that on there and Paul. And I really, I still miss Cam. Every time I get ready to do a Chicago show, I think, oh, I want to get Cam or Rochester. [56:58] We did one about Rochester. We did one about Utica. I did several other shows about other families. And he was a good guy and a real great researcher and a real expert on the outfit and other mafia families. So rest in peace, Cam and Paul. I hope to talk to you again one of these days. Guys, don’t forget, I got stuff to sell out there. Just go to my website or just search on my name for Amazon. I can rent my movies about the skim in Las Vegas, about the big mob war between the Savella brothers and the Spiro brothers in Kansas City. Then one about the great 1946 ballot theft in which the mob… Rigged election, helped Harry Truman rig an election. It’s a little harder to find than mine. You need to put ballot theft and Gary Jenkins. I think you’ll find it then. The other two, Gangland Wire and Brothers Against Brothers, Sabella Spiro, were a little bit easier to find. Had to put it up a different way because Amazon changed the rules, but I got them up there. So thanks a lot, guys.