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The hiring market has seen some major shifts over the past few years, and as businesses continue to navigate economic changes, evolving workplace trends, and shifting candidate expectations, staying ahead of these trends has never been more important, than in 2025.  In today's 40 Minute Mentor episode, we're diving deep into the key hiring and talent trends for the year ahead.  You'll hear from some of the JBM and the wider Amplified People Group teams who share their insights on how the Hiring and Talent market is shaping up for the year.  We'll be answering questions like:  ➡️ How is the hiring market shaping up compared to 2024?  ➡️ What new trends are we seeing, and what are candidates and clients asking more about?  ➡️ What are our top predictions for hiring in 2025? Whether you're a Founder planning your next big hire, a talent leader navigating an evolving workforce, or a job seeker looking to understand the market, this episode is packed with insights to help you stay ahead. ⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️ Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review at https://ratethispodcast.com/40mm 

Before the 40 Minute Mentor team heads into hibernation until 2025, your Host, James Mitra shares a short festive message with you.  Tune in to hear some of James's favourite moments on the podcast this year and some of the biggest milestones the JBM team have achieved this year. 

“Feedback is the only way you will develop as a Leader. It is the only way people develop, full stop.”  If you've been following JBM's journey or been listening to 40 Minute Mentor for a while now, you will know that we've recently joined forces with Amplified People Group - the people services supergroup, supporting tech companies from inception to IPO.  That's what makes today's 40 Minute Mentor episode so special.  In this episode, we are joined by Andrew Richardson, Amplified People Group's Co-Founder and Director.  Not only will you find out the ins and outs of JBM's acquisition and what the future holds for the Group, but we also cover Andrew's impressive career journey, why VC simply wasn't for him and where his passion and love for Sales really comes from.  Episode Chapters: ➡️ Upbringing in an entrepreneurial environment [04:00]  ➡️ Foundation in recruitment & joining La Fosse [10:30]  ➡️ The power of mentorship in Andrew's early career [12:20]  ➡️ Growing a passion for Sales & why it's such a good grounding for anyone's career [15:20]  ➡️ More about today's sponsor [20:00]  ➡️ Moving from Recruitment into VC [21:00]  ➡️ The challenges of building a new fund [23:15]  ➡️ The beginning of Foundation Partners & the evolution to Amplified Group[28:00]  ➡️ Fractional support for early-stage Founders [33:50]  ➡️ The hallmark of success [38:00]  ➡️ Building a high-performance business & attracting the right talent [40:50]  ➡️ Why feedback is so important [46:00]  ⛳ Helpful links: ➡️ Connect with Andrew: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-richardson-34404b33  ➡️ Find out more about Amplified People Group: https://www.amplifiedgroup.com/ 

The Young Bar of Montreal will be holding its 42nd free legal clinic to promote access to justice. Lawyer and president of the Young Bar Association of Montreal, Maitre Marie Flambard, joined Andrew Carter with all the details.

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“Make networking a daily occurrence. It's everyday interactions. It's making a good impression early doors and really taking the time to build meaningful relationships and connections.”  In today's episode, we've put our host, James Mitra, into the interviewee seat.  James was recently invited on Alembic Strategy's Strategy Café, hosted by Founder and MD, Nick Mayhew.  If you haven't heard of Alembic before, they're a team of facilitators and coaches working at board level with family businesses, founder-led businesses, private equity and with developing leaders, in the UK and internationally.  Nick and James discuss the unique journey JBM has been on and the key lessons James has learned over the last 11 years of leading JBM.  Episode chapters:  ➡️ Introductions [01:08]  ➡️ The power of networking [04:45]  ➡️ Bringing networking into your day to day [08:20]  ➡️ Starting JBM at age 25 [14:20]  ➡️ Disrupting traditional recruitment [17:40]  ➡️ Dealing with competition [20:15]  ➡️ Changing lives through recruitment [24:50]  ➡️ The mistakes along the way [28:30]  ⛳ Helpful links: ➡️ Follow Nick on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayhewnick/  ➡️ Follow James on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmitra-jbm/?originalSubdomain=uk  ➡️ Find out more about Alembic Strategy: https://www.alembicstrategy.com/  ➡️ Find out more about JBM: https://jbmc.co.uk/  ⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️ Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tune in to our Strategy Café with James Mitra to hear: - How a chance encounter had a positive impact on both himself and his business, and was a lightbulb moment that changed his attitude to networking, - How JBM has scaled purely through word of mouth from clients, - The importance of creating an environment where people want to stay, - What he has learned through his mistakes, - How James and JBM are disrupting the recruitment industry with their focus on relationships, values and connection. During the session, James shows a beautiful vulnerability as he shares a pivotal moment for JBM during a difficult time - an experience that has significantly shaped JBM into what it is today.

Show Notes and Transcript Jaco Booyens joins Hearts of Oak to discuss his journey from South Africa to the U.S, becoming a citizen and focusing on anti-trafficking work.  His organisation prioritizes prevention, inspired by his sister's trafficking experience.  Jaco highlights the prevalence of human trafficking in the U.S, especially within families, tells us of the destructive impact of the pornography industry on exploitation and criticizes the church for not actively addressing these issues. Despite facing opposition from Big Tech, Big Pharma, and the pornography lobby, Jaco encourages engagement, education, and support for anti-trafficking efforts and tells us how we can all get involved. With 29 years of fighting trafficking, Jaco Booyens is the leading voice in America addressing the entire ecosystem that feeds human trafficking. His team collaborates with 170+ anti-trafficking organizations nationwide, as well as local and federal law enforcement agencies. JBM is consistently tracking the evolution of this crime in real time. This intel allows us to conduct a global gap analysis to best advocate for the needs of the anti-trafficking community on all fronts (legislation, awareness, training our first responders and government officials). JBM sees early and is able to sound the alarm - warning the American public about what's happening to their children. Jaco Booyens Ministries is an anti-trafficking organization led by the Holy Spirit to redeem the lives of children, victims, survivors, and those creating demand for sexual exploitation.  They support real-life rescues and save children BEFORE they need to be rescued Connect with Jaco and the Ministry... WEBSITE           jacobooyensministries.org X/TWITTER       x.com/BooyensJaco INSTAGRAM      instagram.com/jaco.booyens Interview recorded 29.5.24 Connect with Hearts of Oak... X/TWITTER        x.com/HeartsofOakUK WEBSITE            heartsofoak.org/ PODCASTS        heartsofoak.podbean.com/ SOCIAL MEDIA  heartsofoak.org/connect/ SHOP                  heartsofoak.org/shop/ *Special thanks to Bosch Fawstin for recording our intro/outro on this podcast. Check out his art theboschfawstinstore.blogspot.com and follow him on X/Twitter x.com/TheBoschFawstin TRANSCRIPT Hello, Hearts of Oak. I'm delighted to be joined by a brand new guest that I had the privilege of meeting over in my trip in Texas, and that's Jaco Booyens. Jaco, thank you so much for your time today. Thank you. It was great to meet you in person, and thank you for the kind gesture of having me on your show. Not at all. It was wonderful meeting you and then meeting you again later jumping on with you on your show and I had not actually known about the work you're doing. I've looked into it and and it's a phenomenal work you do and i'm hoping that we can share that with our viewers and listeners, but of course first of all people can obviously find you there's your twitter handle which is on the screen or X and this Jaco Booyans Ministries.org is the website that is on the the twitter handle at the top when you go on to Jaco's profile and also everything is in the description. And you describe yourself Jaco as as an anti-trafficking organization led by the Holy Spirit which we'll delve into that point in a moment which is alien for UK viewers certainly but to redeem the lives of children victims survivors and those creating demand for sexual exploitation. We support real life rescues and save children before they need to be rescued. So, we want to delve into the work you do, the vital work you've done for nearly three decades. But before I start with that, can I ask you about yourself? How does a South African end up in the US and becoming a US citizen, legally becoming a US citizen? You know, that's the question today is what's legal and what's not legal, because we still have legal immigration in the US, you know, there's still and as you do in the UK, there are laws on the books, it's whether those laws are actually upheld or not. That's the question of the day. You know, Peter, when I was 18 years old as a South African, born and raised in Johannesburg, with a tremendous, you know, love for England because all our sport are the same. Our school system is built on the British school system. Our legal system is British law. I mean, there's such an intertwinement between the UK and South Africa, right? I was destined to play professional rugby at that time as an 18-year-old. My sister was 12 years old. We were on the brink of civil war. This is 1994, South Africa, Nelson Mandela's coming out of prison. I mean, it is just a melting pot of change, right? And in that year, 1994, when my sister Ilonka was 12, she was trafficked. Now, we're from a single-parent home. Father was not in our lives. I'm a senior in high school, or a matriculant in high school, as we'll call it. But on my way to the military, because it's last class of military, mandatory military service, I'm also on my way to play professional rugby, which both happened. But then also my sister is trafficked. And it was a six-year journey. Of this 12-year-old girl being trafficked until she was 18, my sister, so for me from just about turning 19 to 26, 25, 26, it was this process of not knowing exactly what has happened, what is happening to our sister. And by God's grace, I was there the night she was rescued. And in that process, none of us knew what human trafficking was, but in that six-year process, there was this agreement by the family, my mother, myself, my brother, that when Ilonka was coming home, and we believed that God had her, that she was safe, that we would immigrate to Nashville, Tennessee, because music was our love. Music is, in fact, the industry she was trafficked through. We didn't know it at the time. And so once that happened in 2001, we immigrated to the U.S. We came as visitors and started the process of becoming legal U.S. Citizens, came in legally and worked the process. And for me, it was a 14-year process of becoming a citizen, because I was a visitor and then I became a professional athlete in the U.S., which changed my visa status. And you start over every time. And then I lived in Canada for two years playing professional football in Canada, football, not British football, American football. Which changed my legal status again. And so I had to restart three or four times. And hence the reason it took 14 years before I was sworn in as a U.S. Citizen, you know, and very proudly so. Where was that? Which city, which area was that you were sworn in? Did most of my work with the Memphis Office of Immigration, but I actually was sworn in in Dallas, Texas, because we moved to Dallas 2011 and 2014, sworn in as a U.S. citizen. So, I've been a citizen now for nine, ten years almost. It was such a proud moment, Peter. You know, I love South Africa. That red dirt never gets out of your system. I love my people. I love the country. But we're called here for the fight. We're in fighting human trafficking. We're called here. And standing in front of an immigration judge, I say this to a lot of U.K. residents would understand this. When you have migration and immigration into a country, into the U.S., you are asked to assimilate. You're required. I had to write a written English exam, verbal exam, understand the branches of government. An exam, I argue, most American citizens, naturally born, will fail. They'll fail that test. Same here. Same situation in the U.K. And so pass that exam, then you go through a bar. Then you go through an immigration federal judge, you get questioned. You get all your biometrics taken, they check your background, et cetera, et cetera. And then finally, you stand in front of a judge with your friends and family, and you hear, welcome, newest citizen of the United States. And you pledge that allegiance for the first time, and you sing that national anthem, the Star-Spangled Banner, for the first time. And what a moment, you know, what a moment. Incredible. Had my daughter there with me, my firstborn and she was witness to that. And so, you know, we honor that process, although it being a very expensive and a 14-year process, I honor it. Jaco, you touched on your sports background. You're an entrepreneur. You were in the media industry, which you refer to what happened to your family. That seems a lot on. Why jump into this issue whatever you've got your hands filled with so many other things. Yeah, you're right look I was I was born and raised on the stage. I mean my mom was a theater professor so my first memory we're doing the musical, the student prince I was three years old so I was raised in the entertainment business which ended up being the business that trafficked my sister. And so at the time, at 18, as I'm going to professional sport, the military, you've got a sister that's under duress. And so it takes precedent. Six years in, when Ilanka was rescued, by God's grace, I was there that night. Peter, I'll just tell you my story. I heard God's voice say, not another one. And although I didn't quite know and understand what trafficking was at the time, this is 2001. 2001, I knew that this, this had to end through her eyes in the US after we arrived in Nashville, she called a family meeting and unpacked for us in detail, what men had done to her and how, and you know, you can't, you, your brain disconnects. You don't want, you don't want to hear it, but you're hearing it because it's your sister. And so everything I knew in the beginning, I learned from Ilonka. That led us on this journey of fighting for every child and which led us to 2010 to realize that the United States is the leading nation in the world demanding the exploitation of people. That's a fact. It's sadly so, but it's a fact. We're demanding the highest demand on pornographic content, producing pornographic content, the distribution of CSAM, child sexual abuse material. We lead the world in social media and app development, which has become the platform on which this is prolificated, right? It's just, it's exploded since the age of social media. And so since 2010, although we do a lot of work in other countries still, our organization has a hyper focus on the 50 states of the United States. And thank you for the quote early. We believe we can save a child before they need to be rescued. And what we mean by that is predators look for vulnerabilities in children. If there's not a vulnerability, they'll exploit a potential vulnerability like love and belonging, care, shelter, food, community, identity, you know, and they'll explore what sticks and then they'll dig in. And, you know, remember, it's a crime. Human trafficking is such a broad term. There's labor trafficking, debt bondage, sexual exploitation, sex trafficking. But the crime of human trafficking by definition, which we had a hand in help write, is the exploitation of persons through the mechanism of force, fraud, and coercion. And so those are the mechanisms predators use. The bully uses force. Fraud, coercion is so effective when you combine it with sexual exploitation, so for us we just learned how to use our relationships in media which is still ongoing and active. Proud member of the blaze network with Glenn Beck. We produce feature films. We produce a lot of content and music and television. We utilize those platforms now as sounding boards and awareness campaigns to drive all attention attention and focus to end the sexual exploitation of children. That is our main focus, is to end trafficking. Now, with that being said, our organization has four key pillars, of which one is policy and legislation. Where we are unbelievably active in policy and legislation. We've got great leaders of that in our organization, where we write bills for individual U.S. States, U.S. Senate, the House. We consult. We are even busy with a bill for the House of Lords to speak into how do we protect children in a community by us identifying the vulnerability, vulnerability securing the vulnerability before a predatory force gets to to exploit. Tell me about the early days of starting the JBM, Jaco Booyan's Ministries? Yeah, what were those kind of early days, because this is a huge issue and has got much worse there's so many facets where you can tackle this. And you talk about media and legislation? There are so many angles that you can start on. And it seems as though this is something which actually is just too big to tackle. And I'm sure a number of people have tried to look at this and walked away by the beast they see in front of them. But tell us about those early days, how you started and how you grew in those first few years. Yeah, what a question, man. This is what makes you such a great interviewer, Peter, and congratulations on all the success of the show and the impact you're making. It's because of questions like this. That question is actually also the answer to the big problem. You know, I came full circle, 30 years is a long time, Peter. I mean, 30 years in, I now know that where we started is actually the solution to the problem. We started by focusing on one child in one family, understanding that if the family breaks down, the child is vulnerable. And so the solution to this multi-headed dragon monster that you're addressing is actually where we started. We focused on one child, my sister, her story, her voice. How did this happen? Learning about where we were vulnerable and we didn't know as a family, because we have a mother that worked three jobs, actively engaged in every aspect of the lifestyle, but yet it's not a sound, stable family. It's not. And that's not to frown upon single-parent families. They're to be celebrated, but they are vulnerable. We have to understand how they're vulnerable. And so the early days was very tough because when Ilonka, first of all, when she went through trafficking. The word human trafficking wasn't even socialized. Law enforcement deemed it a runaway right away, quickly, as is happening today. There was no policy and legislation. We didn't have a definition for human trafficking in the US until 2015. We didn't have laws on the books specific to child sex trafficking in the United States until 2015. And so the early years from 2001 to 2015 was a desert. You couldn't raise funds. You couldn't get anybody to repeat the word. Nobody wanted to even know. You couldn't talk about sexual exploitation and really child rape. Rape it was it was just a taboo across the board and and there was these prayers of could we just see a day when people would at least want to talk about it. Could we not just us but other amazing organizations that have championed this with us the problem was in the U.S. at that time and really still today to be honest on the heels of the Sound of Freedom movie. Great film, we consulted on it know the guys well, but it still paints a misconception of really what's happening, is it paints this picture to the American population that the problem is elsewhere. The problem is in Cambodia, it's in the Philippines, it's in Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, in the Congo, and then they tie the problem directly to poverty or displacement, right? Right. Sure. Poverty and displacement plays a big role, but that's, in fact, no longer a driving factor. You know, the fastest growing form of human trafficking globally and in the U.S. is what's called familial trafficking, where it's family members trafficking their own children, where the child is not homeless, is not a runaway, is not in the foster care system. So, for years we fought to say, hey, wait a minute. It's not just over there. It's here. It's in the U.S. And that's still a battle we face today. So we come full circle because we thought for a time period around 2010 through 15, we started saying to law enforcement, look, you're arresting the wrong people. You're arresting the victims and the Johns. The bad guys are walking free. The pimps and the predators are walking free. You know, so we said, could we just get laws on the books? And then we did. And then we thought that we could arrest ourselves out of the problem. And you realize you cannot. Then we thought we could legislate ourselves out of the problem. And we realized, as you do in the UK at the moment, just because the laws on the books doesn't mean it's adjudicated as such in the court of law. And so you're not going to legislate yourself out of the problem, although we need great legislation. So, how then do we fix this? We heal the nuclear family. That's how you fix this. The fight starts at home. Each parent, every child, you don't wait until a child is destitute. Or, I mean, it is a constant bombardment, a barrage of attack on our Gen Z culture of misinformation, lies, deceit, and sexualized content, normalizing absolutely absurd behavior. And so the law is tossed aside for social norm. So, once we realize that, okay, we started with, bonding one family together around one child, we come full circle and realize the only way to stop child sexual exploitation is to educate one family at a time for them to take ownership. Over the problem, which means accountability, fortify that family, and do not allow any of the crazy that you fight and I fight into the family. Don't allow them to radicalize the school system, the education platform, driving the church out of the home, bringing radicalized ideology through different religion, as you are literally living in every day, into the conversation because it disfranchised the strength of a family, which then renders that family completely vulnerable to predatory forces. I want to get on to the demand you talked about, and there are all different points on the website that people, the viewers, listeners do need to go to and absorb some of that information, to realize the scale of what you face and how you're working towards a solution for this. But the industry, you talk about kind of, well, people talk about industries, the lobby power of Big Pharma or the war industry or the food industry. But the sex industry, the pornography industry, and then the people trafficking kind of coming together, that sex industry, that must be a powerful industry with their tentacles in governments, not only in the US, but worldwide. Have you seen that? Yeah, it's because of the nature of it, you know, Peter in my in my Ted Talk, I say I open my ted talk I believe with every single human being can be trafficked. If I know your greatest vulnerability and your greatest need you can be trafficked well. Finance is a mechanism of vulnerability. Finance. The desire to be loved and understood and seen as every human being. So, every human being is a sexual being. So, when you take sex as a concept and you corrupt it, you're going to devastate and destroy. Absolutely so, now you're seeing that sex, in fact, a drug in pornography, 100%, right? It's actually very effective. So, you'll find that when we work with law enforcement in the U.S. and there's a drug raid. There's not always sex involved. There's not always guns smuggling involved. There's not always money laundering or people smuggling involved. It could be drugs. Where you fight sexual exploitation, all of the above are involved. Every single human trafficking case has illegal weapons, money laundering, people smuggling, drugs, crime, homicide. It's the one thing that begets all of it because it's the ultimate moral compromise. Once you go to that level where you are willing to look the other way or be participant in subjecting a child to exploitation, all the rest is fair game. So evil will play that card. And so when we talk about the size of that industry, we are in this year going to surpass the illegal drug trade in the U.S. With sexual exploitation. It will become the number one crime in the U.S. Now, in 2023, it was a $152 billion U.S. crime, sorry, international crime. $52 billion of the $152 billion was domestic, was U.S. So, a third of the world's human exploitation by dollar value is in the U.S. When you would consider sexual exploitation as a for-profit enterprise, publicly traded, it would be a Fortune 100 company in the US. This is tax-free, which makes its EBITDA close to probably $5 billion, right? Because it's all for gain and for profit. But it's not just money, Peter. It's the corruption of power. I'll give you an example. Were deep into this conversation and investigation in the Sean Combs P. Diddy case, like we were in 2007 and are currently in the Jeffrey Epstein case, Ghislaine Maxwell, Harvey Weinstein. Why it's prevalent at those levels is the following. It's not just money. It's not that they're making money through sex. Yes, they do. It's power and position. It's compromise, it's throwing a freak out party. P. Diddy's party inviting a bunch of people, positioning activity that's illicit in front of everybody. Compromising everybody at the party. Filming people. Get a knock on the door going, hey, you were at the party. You're in a photograph with a minor. You didn't talk to the minor. You didn't touch the minor. You didn't engage in the basement. None of it. But you are compromised. And it's a tool, unbelievably prevalent tool in politics to sway votes, to move people, to move judges, to move. Look, you've got a member of the royal family implicated in the Jeffrey Epstein case. There is no level of society as low or high where you cannot use sex to compromise an individual for power, position, or finance. And that's why it's so prevalent. It's effective, highly effective, because it speaks to the moral compass of a man or a woman, the fortitude and the spine of saying no, even if it costs you everything. And so when you take desire for political position, right now, one of our top things we're doing with the United Nations in the UK, and I shared this with you, is looking into premiership soccer, premiership football. The amount of Premier League players that had been trafficked from Africa, right? It's, again, there's a young talent. How do you control that talent? You compromise the talent, take passports, visa, you compromise them sexually, you hold something over your head. This is an effective tool that's in business and in public and private sector alike. Is part of the problem under the demand issue, and you touched about a moral compass, you've also got an innate sexual desire compass. And when that gift of sex is abused by society, by media, then we see the end result. Adult, but you've got men in positions of power and pornography and masculinity, sadly, have become mixed and therefore, and it's also seen as a non-victimless activity. It's seen as actually, this is fine, this is natural and these women, I'm sure they've made this decision to enter this career. You kind of come up against that of men in positions and why would any man in a position who enjoys pornography, why would you want to stop this? It's kind of seen as normal and natural and yet you're giving a different message which hits at it from an angle of truth that people don't want to accept I assume. Yeah, look. Taking accountability and personal responsibility for anything, as a father, for you as a father, right? Staring your faults and your mistakes in the face and say, I own them. That human nature shies away from that. Even if it's not sex, just making a mistake, saying, hey, that was me. I own it. I'm going to fix it. I'm going to do better next time. By nature, people don't want to do that. When it is sexual compromise now it's secret in my world it's secret it's private. It is their self-condemnation most of most men if they're honest they'll tell you right after they watch porn they feel guilty, they feel empty, they feel void, it does not fulfill them, and it will not, it cannot, because they've objectified a person where that where there's a dissonance, you know, there's a disassociation with nobody is being harmed. Let me give you some statistics real quick, okay? Over 80% of what the world deems prostitutes, over 80% of those women have filed rape charges. And you would say, well, how is a prostitute able to file a rape charge? It's easy. All she has to do in the moment is say, 'no.' It's not consensual. Well, you're branded a prostitute, so it must always be consensual. No, there's no irrevocable consent, right? Over 80%, get this number, 87% of what the world today classifies as prostitutes, we're talking about adult women now, right, had been sexually exploited as minors. So are they prostitutes? They're actually, in fact, not prostitutes. Because you have to understand the human behavioural science, the mind, the psyche, what happens to sex hormones in the brain, puberty, what actually happens to a human being with sexual encounter and interaction. It's chemical. It's metaphysical. It's physical. It's biological. It's not just a feeling. There's real reaction and there's bonding and tearing, bonding and tearing. This is why divorce is so detrimental. This is why having multiple sexual partners, there's a tearing because it's a bonding agent. It's the most vulnerable, most intimate moment a human being will ever be in. Complete exposure, nudity, nakedness, heart, emotion. So, it's this constant bonding, tearing, bonding, tearing. When you normalize that, you decimate culture. Here's some statistics. There's not a single civilization recorded in the history of mankind that embraced sexual exploitation that survived three generations, not one. Rome fell because of this. The Mayan culture fell. The Greeks fell. The Asian culture fell to where the Chinese have outlawed pornography completely. They'll give the US TikTok with porn and the UK TikTok, but porn is illegal in China. Why? They understand that it will kill their culture. Porn is the most destructive weapon on the face of the earth because it seems normal. It's sex. Here's another thing. Do you know that in Nevada, the state of Nevada that has legal brothels, and it's not on the Vegas strip, by the way, there's not a single legal brothel on the Vegas strip. The areas in Nevada that has legal brothels. Most of those women have pimps. Most of those women perform pornography because they're not making enough money to make their quota on general sex trafficking on the Vegas Strip. Most of those women in organized porn are intoxicated, are manipulated. What I want men to understand is when you objectify a woman or a man, the violation of privacy. What if it was your daughter? For young men, your future wife. The violation of privacy by observing porn, just observing it, watching it, you are creating demand for another human being to be exploited. And it is exploitation, whether they understand it or not. Remember, most victims don't self-identify. So, we are asking for human beings to be exploited, while we are frowning upon racism and all these things. There's more slaves today, sex slaves, than ever before in human history, ever before. We are dealing with a cataclysmic problem here in society where now we're looking at it and go, well, if we normalize it, there's Germany two weeks ago legalizing the possession of child. Pornography. Okay, I hear you. How did the individual obtain the child pornography? A child was exploited. So, you could say it's legal to possess it, but then you're saying it's legal to create it. So, the child has no defence. The child is a sitting duck. That culture, you mark my words, the German culture is going to implode. It will implode. It'll be decimated at the core because it's the ultimate moral compromise. When you have a situation in the UK where you have rape gangs, when you have a situation in the UK where there's no go zones, where you have a situation in the UK where a doctrine that does not frown upon sex with children becomes normalized. You're going to lose the culture. You'll be decimated like the Romans. You will lose it all. There is no way around this. If you cannot protect, for me as a Christian, it's a mandate, Peter. But even if you're not a Christian, let me tell you, if you cannot protect the vulnerable of your culture, the most vulnerable children, you don't have a future. Forget about them standing up for freedom, for liberty and justice, for our constitution, your constitution, for be kind to your neighbour, be a good citizen. You are having a Gen Z class. That is the most self exploitive class in human history. They sell their own bodies on OnlyFans. The girls in, and I've been on many UK campuses, go talk to them, ask them what's their body count, what's their sexual partner relations like. They've lost count. They've lost hope and they're empty. So pornography in any form, hentai, animation, porn, pornography is the entry drug into human exploitation and human trafficking. Speaking, I've never met a single paedophile, child trafficker, convicted trafficker that was not a porn addict that has not told me it started with pornography. And the drug no longer sustains the dopamine requirement. So, it has to go to harder core porn than it goes to purchasing sex from an adult. That doesn't satisfy. And the ultimate end goal is prepubescent sexual encounter, which is where you see Germany going on a bullet train. I agree. It's a massive concern watching that legislation. Jaco, you talked about your faith right at the beginning. And on the website, you say you're led by the Holy Spirit. Tell me where the church fits into this, because we've seen the church in the UK shy away from any major issues, and as long as they can have their Bible study on a Wednesday and their service on a Sunday morning, they've ticked those boxes, and we see a church withdrawing from society. What's it like for you as a high-profile individual on this huge, horrendous, dark issue that needs to be addressed and that no one really, if you talk to anyone in the street, no one would disagree with anything you say. Then you get down to actually them doing something that's a different issue. But where is the church in this? Where are Christians in this, especially over there in the US? You know, earlier, and I can't be a hypocrite. And I told you this before, every morning I start my day in the mirror asking myself if I'm part of the problem. Do I look the other way? Do I see something and not say something? Am I in some way, you know, demanding for some human being to be exploited? And the answer has to be absolutely not. So as a non-hypocrite, I'm going to tell you, the church has been nowhere in this conversation, because the church has believed the separation of church and state, and the church can't speak into societal issues, and the church is not supposed to bring the gospel of Jesus Christ. And I'm now speaking to the church, and I'm speaking to all denominations, not just Catholicism that's very prevalent in the UK history. I'm talking to the Protestants, you know, all of them, right? The Anglicans, you know, the non-denominationalists. Our faith is not a faith of gathering, tapping each other on the shoulder and saying, hey, let's have Bible study. The greatest commandment of our faith to the one we serve, Jesus Christ, is go into all the nations and disciple, which means bring solutions, kingdom solutions to earthly problems. He tells Peter, pray on earth as in heaven. Heaven, our Father who art in heaven, on earth as in heaven, meaning bring heavenly, Holy Spirit-led, divine, scriptural, foundational solutions to great earthly problems like foster care and abortion and racism and whatever conversation you want to have. If the church does not actively engage with solutions in love, not in hate, in love, but with truth, which is the word of God in the public square, the church is in fact abandoning their watch post on the wall. That is, Peter, Ezekiel 33, 7 says, if the watchman on the wall, which by biblical precedent is the believer, the Christian. If the watchman on the wall does not warn society of an injustice that it sees, meaning speak into it, speak biblical truth, not a fluid biblical worldview, not a watered down false gospel, the gospel. If a Christian, each individual, does not actively speak with their mouth into that injustice, then the blood of is on the hands of the watchman. If that watchman, the Christian engages in culture in these conversations that you're having with Brexit, with the parliamentarians, the house of lords; what's happening. If they don't engage in election conversation from a biblical worldview, if they don't preach it from the pulpit, right? They're in fact the watchman with the blood on their hands. You can't as a Christian stand and say well look at Joe Biden, what is happening to America? We are, we're having drag shows for kids. We are losing our culture. My question immediately is where was the church when they drove you know prayer out of school? Where is the church when we say: hey we're going to show up at a drag show for kids and say this is not okay. They don't show up. So, the role of the church, in fact, the Messiah we follow, Jesus Christ, didn't even have a home, Peter. Didn't have a building, met under trees and went town to town to do what? Meet need, feed people, heal people, right? And spread a different message, a gospel that's a gospel of love, but correction, accountability, take ownership, wait for the British Parliament to save your family. You've got stewardship over your family, over your community, your child's school, right? And so Christians have abdicated their social responsibility because we've made the gospel just about me and my salvation. And now it's private. And now I'm not even a contributor to society. I'm just hoarding faith. But the Great Commission is go and spread this news. So, the church is complicit, 100%. When we are told Jesus went around doing good, destroying the works of the enemy, that verse is enough to live by until our dying day. Jaco, let me finish off just on the opposition you face on this issue. You talk about legislation. I'm sure there's opposition there. I know you're heavily involved in the media and I had the privilege of you showing me around the Blaze studio. And I felt a little bit of envy rising up as you were showing me around the facilities you have. Where does the opposition come from? Is it the political? Is it the media? Or is it lobby groups? Because again, publicly, no one will reject your message. But privately, there must be opposition to what you're doing or else we will see this situation eradicated. I agree with you. You know, the people in general, if we go into what I love, and I'm just going to say this, I love walking from Piccadilly to the West End. I love that walk all the way to Waterloo Bridge. I love that city, right? And when I stop people, I'll never forget, there was a group of kindergartners that were connected with a yellow vest, a bright yellow vest, and their teachers were all around them. And they were protecting them, walking through on a field trip through Piccadilly Circus, right? And there was an immediate reverence by the people they made way. In general, the public's gonna agree. Look, when they look in the eyes of a child, yeah, we've got to protect that child. The problem comes in when they abdicate their voice to government and they abdicate their voice. Well, this parliamentarian, this member of the House of Lords will speak on my behalf. They will not. They will not. They've got a different mission. Their mission is to stay in office. Their mission is to stay in power. The Uniparty, the globalists, their mission is to not have their own personal faults exposed to the world, to not lose position. So, the problem comes with general society agrees, but general society doesn't speak up and general society doesn't hold those who have been elected accountable. So now by default, we're forfeiting power to organizations. And so our biggest opposition comes from political parties on both sides of the aisle in every country. The Republicans, the Democrats, there's as much opposition sometimes in the House of Lords to a subject like age verification for social media websites. The second I bring that up, they go, wait a minute. Okay, well, hold on. Or when you bring up freedom of speech should not protect pornography to children. That's not a right, right? And that's what Germany grappled with. Do I think the German culture on the ground in the countryside want to see pornography children? Absolutely not. But they lost their voice. They've given it over. So in the U.S., our top opposition is big tech. Think how well they're funded. Big pharma. Absolutely. Big pharma as making a radical push for gender modification, puberty blockers, you know, sexual alteration of children, massive push, and they throwing money at politicians to sway votes. We have now an official pornography lobby, not against porn, for porn on K Street, over a hundred million dollar funded porn lobby that knocks on the doors of politicians every day and coerce them to legalize porn, child porn, to lower the age of consent. We've got a gigantic opposition in the non-faith community. We have a massive fight with radicalized Islam. It's just a fact. It's just a fact because societally in that religion, they don't frown upon. Activities we frown upon as an American culture. I'm reminded in the last Soccer World Cup, I was asked to work with the Qataris on an anti-trafficking campaign. And I said, I cannot, because you guys don't frown upon having eight-year-old child brides. That's the trafficking, the selling of little girls. And their response to me was, well, would you help us to say trafficking of boys is frown upon? I said, this is asinine. It's insane. Which FIFA stepped up and said, hey, we're against trafficking of all sorts. But culturally, when you abandon your core culture as a nation for a foreign entity to come in, and you're not asking that entity to become British. And I'm not saying they got to love bangers and mash, you know, but culturally who what what is the fabric and the fibre of of of Great Britain. What is what is an American what is the we do not consent with the exploitation of children in this country we do not agree with hate or racism we do not agree that that you shouldn't have freedom of speech, a first and second amendment. You cannot come to this country from a Joseph Kabila regime in the Congo and think that you can come cut people's limbs off. That's not okay. And the second culture loses its voice that we don't agree. You have people speaking on your behalf, but they're not speaking on your behalf. They're speaking on their own behalf and on their own compromise. And you lose your culture. Jaco, I really appreciate your time. I'm intrigued and excited at the work you're doing and for the viewers and listeners maybe you haven't come across your mister before how do they how do they partner with you how do they support you? I know you've got a shop on the website. I'm sure you've got a donate button. I mean how do people become part of what you're doing? Yeah, thank you. Our number one social platform we use is is Instagram. We're on X and Twitter but But there's massive censorship of our voice on some of those platforms. Please go to HelpJBM, Juliet Bravo Mike, Help, Jacobooyens Ministries, Help JBM.org. Number one thing I want your viewers to do is to get educated on our website, how to protect their own families, how to have a conversation with their teenager. How do predators talk online? Is your child already engaging with a predator on DMs, on social media? Secondly, they can help us for a nominal fee save lives period to rescue children from trafficking, fortify them, partner with us in donations but they can also partner with us by by becoming ambassadors in their community; distributing truth and educating families on how to how to protect men, women, and children from sexual exploitation. Jaco, thank you so much for saying that I know the viewers and listeners will really want to go delve into the website and support you in any way possible. So, thank you so much for coming along and sharing the work you're doing. Appreciate you, Peter. God bless you.

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“You need to be able to own what you do have, but even more so, what you don't have.” Following last week's episode on building a stand-out CV and personal brand on LinkedIn, we're now focusing on the next crucial stage in the recruitment process - the interview. Very often, the interview stage can feel quite daunting, but a lot of it comes down to preparation and doing the work upfront.  In today's episode, we'll hear from our wonderful JBM team who lift the curtain on the secret to nailing the interview stage and share some of the most common mistakes they see people make, when it comes to interviews.  So, whether you're job hunting right now or starting to think about the next step in your career, this episode will help set you on the right path…  Episode chapters: ➡️ Different methods to prepare for an interview [1:05] ➡️ Communicating your strengths [2:21] ➡️ Getting your questions answered [4:19] ➡️ Bringing relevant experience to the table [5:48] ➡️ Getting the basics right [06:55] ➡️ A reminder on working with your headhunter [07:25] ➡️ Focusing on the human side in interviews [08:17] ➡️ Key skills for Startups [08:48] ➡️ The power of curiosity: a non-negotiable [10:54] ➡️ How to let the conversation flow [13:21] ➡️ Do you feel drained or energised? [13:59] ➡️ Every failure is a redirection [16:58] ➡️ Common interview mistakes [18:45] ➡️ The biggest faux pas: Yes it happens! [20:23] ⛳ Helpful links: ➡️ For more career mentorship, follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jbm-consulting-ltd/?viewAsMember=true ➡️ Find out more about our team and mission here: https://jbmc.co.uk/  ⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️ Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mm

“The CV is not the one thing that will or will not get you hired, there is a whole interview process…” New year, new job? January is a month of reset, refresh and for many, the time to scope out a new opportunity…  No matter whether you're in the middle of hunting for a new role, are just starting to think about it or are looking to hire into your team in 2024, our ‘Career Spotlight' feature series has something for everyone.  For our first episode, we sat down with JBM's team to share their top tips when it comes to building a CV that will help you secure an interview.  Plus, we also discuss the importance of building and optimising your personal brand on LinkedIn, featuring a contribution from former 40 Minute Mentor and Founder of personal branding agency, Klowt, Amelia Sordell.  Episode chapters: ➡️ Rethinking the purpose of your CV [1:12] ➡️ Communicating your achievements [2:41] ➡️ The winning structure [5:29] ➡️ First impressions and the importance of layout [7:51] ➡️ To tailor or not to tailor your CV [9:16] ➡️ Say goodbye to paragraphs [10:14] ➡️ Numbers, metrics and demonstrating data [10:45] ➡️ Addressing career gaps [11:29] ➡️ Owning the impact you've made [12:37] ➡️ How long should your CV be? [15:37] ➡️ Bringing your personality to paper [17:33] ➡️ Harnessing the power of your LinkedIn profile [18:07] ➡️ Getting the most out of LinkedIn [21:29] ➡️ Passion, authenticity and being realistic [23:25] ➡️ Striking the balance between personal & professional [26:40] ➡️ What do you want to be known for? [27:07]  ⛳ Helpful links: ➡️ For more career mentorship, follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jbm-consulting-ltd/?viewAsMember=true ➡️ The full episode with Amelia Sordell: https://jbmc.co.uk/insights/40-minute-mentor/the-power-of-personal-branding-with-amelia-sordell-founder-of-klowt/  ⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️ Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mm

Just like that we're closing another year of 40 Minute Mentor.  This year, we surpassed our 200 published episodes mark and are fast approaching 1 million downloads.  Before we kick off a brand new feature series in the new year, we asked some of our biggest 40 Minute Mentor fans for their nominations for the best episode of 2023. From scaling teams to Founder mistakes and investment advice, our guests may range across industries but they all align on one thing - sharing pocket-sized career mentorship with you all.  So, for one final time this year, join us to discover the best episodes of the past 12 months.  We'd also love to know YOUR favourite episode, so feel free to drop our producer Hannah a note on hannah@jbmc.co.uk  ⛳ Helpful links: ➡️ Follow JBM on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jbm-consulting-ltd/?viewAsMember=true ➡️ Find out more about JBM: https://jbmc.co.uk/  ⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️ Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mm

As we're nearing the end of the year, your 40 Minute Mentor Host, James Mitra, takes a moment to reflect on the last 12 months of podcasting and what the year ahead may have in store.  A huge thank you for all your support over the last 12 months - we wouldn't be where we are without you!  If you have any feedback, topic or guest ideas for 2024, please get in touch on hannah@jbmc.co.uk - we always love hearing from you!  For now, all that's left to say is - Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas (if you're celebrating!) and see you next Wednesday for more pocket-sized mentorship!  ⛳ Helpful links: ➡️ Follow JBM on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jbm-consulting-ltd/?viewAsMember=true ➡️ Find out more about JBM: https://jbmc.co.uk/  ⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️ Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mm

“Becoming financially free but not being a Unicorn, is still success.”Today's 40 Minute Mentor is Nick Telson, exited Founder of DesignMyNight, Co-Founder of Trumpet, Angel Investor and Podcast Host of the popular Pitch Deck show. With so many hats to wear, we loved diving into Nick's story and career from starting at L'Oreal to scratching that entrepreneurial itch by building DesignMyNight to 100+ employees with minimal angel funding and finally returning to the Founder seat to disrupt B2B sales. There is SO much to unpack from Nick's impressive story, from his views on failures to what it really feels like to exit and start again, and so much more: ➡️ Having ‘failure moments' and the glorification of entrepreneurship [02:37] ➡️ Growing up with a creative brain and unconventional paths [03:50] ➡️ The idea of DesignMyNight from the streets of NYC [06:46] ➡️ From side hustle to exit [10:55] ➡️ More about JBM [18:13] ➡️ Round 2 of Founder life: Trumpet's origin story [19:21] ➡️ Being VC backed and hiring principles [22:17] ➡️ Building in public and fundraising journey [23:52] ➡️ Fundraising advice [34:35] ➡️ Hiring advice for securing your initial team [37:09] ➡️ Applying to and joining Trumpet [39:50] ➡️ Audience question: Making the startup world more inclusive [42:25]  ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ Connect with Nick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicktelson/➡️ Find out more about Trumpet: https://www.sendtrumpet.com/?ref=linkedin➡️ Listen to Pitch Deck: https://www.nicktelson.com/podcast⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mm 

“Never underestimate the power of a rant, if you're going to do something about it.”In today's bite-sized 40 Minute Mentor episode, we're joined by fellow podcaster and good friend of JBM, Amardeep Parmar, Co-Founder and Co-CEO of BAE HQ. Amardeep has been on an incredible journey - from being a Tech consultant in 2020, to setting a New Year's resolution which made him the second fastest writer to gain 50,000 followers on Medium.com. Now, he's inspiring, connecting and guiding British Asian Entrepreneurs with BAE HQ. Today, Amardeep shared more about his journey and the crucial lessons he has learned along the way, including: ➡️ His traditional journey and accidental entrepreneurship [00:55] ➡️ Questioning your identity as a Founder [04:51] ➡️ A New Year's resolution turned career [06:26] ➡️ Advice for aspiring writers [08:32] ➡️ How a rant with a friend paved the foundations for BAE HQ [10:05] ➡️ Scaling a not-for-profit and navigating the corporate landscape [12:34] ➡️ Connecting people for mutual success [15:26] ➡️ The secret sauce of community building [16:28] ➡️ A selection of stand out stories from BAE HQ [22:51] ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ Connect with Amardeep: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amardeepsparmar/➡️ Find out more about BAE HQ: https://www.thebaehq.com/ ➡️ Listen to the BAE HQ podcast: https://www.thebaehq.com/podcasts➡️ James Mitra on BAE HQ: https://www.thebaehq.com/podcasts/episode-51-james⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mm 

Excitement is building in Cork ahead of the 2023 Bar One Racing Irish Laurels – with no fewer than 5 guests joining Barry this week to talk about it! First up is the legend himself JBM, Jimmy Barry Murphy, as he reminds us of the importance of the Laurels locally and the excitement of having a good local entry as he highlights some of the fantastic stars who'll take to traps this weekend. Joining the Friends and Supporters of Cork Greyhound Racing as sponsors this year are Bar One Racing and both John McDonnell and CEO Barney O'Hare chat to Barry about coming on board and their investment in the sport and in their stores as they expand across the country. Frank Nyhan, Chairman of GRI, and Board Member Alex Grassick both look forward to 5 fantastic weeks for the “Derby of Cork”.

"There's some horrible sacrifices in the first few years to get it to a place where it's got to survive..."Today's 40 Minute Mentor epitomises what it means to be Tech for Good. We're joined by Sanjay Lobo MBE, the Founder & CEO of OnHand - the all-in-one tool to engage your team in volunteering and environmental action. Dubbed the ‘Uber of volunteering', OnHand lets employees learn and take action on the issues that matter. You may even recognise Sanjay from his recent appearance on BBC's Dragons' Den, where he successfully secured investment from FOUR dragons. Here's what we talk about in today's episode:➡️ Finding his path to entrepreneurship [04:02]➡️ Moving from law into tech [06:58]➡️ How Parkinson's disease became Chapter 1 of the OnHand story [11:05]➡️ Engaging employees in volunteering and environmental action [13:45]➡️ The significance of a great team in a scaling business [15:08]➡️ Managing stress and pressures as a Founder [16:38]➡️ Business benefits of company-wide volunteering opportunities [22:08]➡️ Advert: More about JBM [25:36] ➡️ A Behind the Scenes look at Dragons' Den [27:10]➡️ Working with the Dragons after the show [29:31]➡️ Advice for other Founders looking to get on Dragons' Den [31:13] ➡️ Dealing with increased media attention [32:29] ➡️ Applying to OnHand [35:10] ➡️ Audience Question: Advice for anyone starting their volunteering journey [38:51]⛳ Helpful links:➡️ Connect with Sanjay: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanjaylobo/➡️ Find out more about OnHand: https://www.beonhand.co.uk/ ⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mm 

This is the first of a special podcast series on obstetric critical care.  I am joined on this series by Dr. Elizabeth Garchar, MD, FACOG.  She is an OB/GYN and Maternal Fetal Medicine (MFM) specialist who has a special interest in obstetric critical care.  She is also unique in that she flies regularly with our critical care transport teams and acts as one of our Assistant Medical Directors for the flight program.  So, Dr. Garchar has unique insight into managing this population in transport. This podcast focuses on severe postpartum hemorrhage.  We discuss the epidemiology and risk factors as well as the nuances of diagnosis, specifically how blood loss is actually quantified in this setting.  We also go through the importance of point-of-care ultrasound to help identify and manage the causes of postpartum hemorrhage.  Then, we transition to the discussion of management, focusing on the medical management of uterine atony, and also go over advanced interventions such as uterine packing, balloon tamponade devices, and REBOA.  Finally, Dr. Garchar discusses the indication and procedure for emergent hysterectomy as well as the post-procedure management critical care transport crews may have to perform.   References   Practice Bulletin No. 183: Postpartum Hemorrhage. Obstet Gynecol. Oct 2017;130(4):e168-e186. doi:10.1097/aog.0000000000002351 Abdel-Aleem H, Singata M, Abdel-Aleem M, Mshweshwe N, Williams X, Hofmeyr GJ. 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"Community for me has always been - What is our purpose? Why do we exist? What's it all for? Why does it even matter?”There are two popular topics that come up time and time again when we interview our 40 Minute Mentors and when we speak to JBM clients and candidates. These topics are: Building communities and sticking to your purpose. In this week's episode, we've rounded up some of the best advice from our most recent Series, including: ➡️ Vanity metrics vs Impact -  Nikki Wicks, CEO of The Body Coach  [00:41] ➡️ Meaningful exchanges over numbers - Abadesi Osunsade, Founder of Hustle Crew [03:28] ➡️ Staying true to yourself throughout the journey - Simmy Dhillon, Founder of Simmer  [05:23] ➡️ The dark side of social media - Sue Fennessy, Founder of WeAre8  [06:13] ➡️ Fixing problems with purpose-driven solutions - Nader AlSalim, Founder of Gaia  [07:29] ➡️ Bringing change-makers into your network - Pierre Paslier, Co-Founder of Notpla  [09:13] ➡️ Tapping into what your community wants - Alice Pelton, Founder of The Lowdown  [10:46]  ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ For the full Series 9 episodes, check out our 40 Minute Mentor archives: https://jbmc.co.uk/insights/category/40-minute-mentor/ ➡️ And for more mentorship, make sure you follow JBM on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jbm-consulting-ltd/ 

As we approach 1 million downloads and wrap up Series 9 of our 40 Minute Mentor podcast, we wanted to reflect on the brilliant career mentorship we received over the last 12 weeks. From building a bootstrapped global fitness brand, to the end of HR, a CBD drink phenomenon to mental health and football, we really covered a spectrum of golden nuggets in the world of startups and scaleups. Not to mention some candid life lessons along the way.In today's episode, we hear the very best moments from this series, with some spectacular insights into all things Founder life and beyond, including:➡️ Why you should stop searching for happiness [03:47] ➡️ How playing poker is like being a Founder [04:21]➡️ Diversity & privilege in politics [05:10]➡️ Layoffs are not personal, don't be ashamed [07:15]➡️ Overdose & mental health stigma [08:10]➡️ Get a tech career on your own terms [09:14] But that's not goodbye for now, as we are back next week with our special series, on all things mental health and wellbeing. ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ More about JBM on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jbm-consulting-ltd/➡️ Check us out online: https://jbmc.co.uk/ 

The BAE HQ welcomes James Mitra, the CEO and Founder of JBM, Host of 40-Minute Mentor.James had a lot of different interests growing up and didn't know what he wanted to do. He had multiple jobs where he gained a range of experience.While in recruiting he realised he loved the people aspect of it but hated the target-driven and toxic attitudes a lot of the industry had.He decided to strike out on his own and founded JBM. They had to go through a big pivot which you can hear all about.James hosts one of the UK's biggest podcasts too where he interviews role models from around the world to give people the lessons they need to progress in their careers! If you're listening to this and want to see the video, go to YouTube:https://youtu.be/1xrT7EczyiIVisit our website: http://thebaehq.com

One of the biggest trends we've seen in hiring over the last year has been the rise of fractional careers. It doesn't just give talent more flexibility and freedom, but also gives Founders the opportunity to hire highly experienced operators at a fraction of the cost, and even try before they buy. To discuss how you actually build a fractional career, the benefits to both talent and employers, plus the downfalls you might want to consider before pursuing a portfolio career, we've invited JBM board advisor and Fractional Managing Director, Ben Sanders to share his own experience with us.  ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ Connect with Ben: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-sanders-b280716/➡️ More about JBM SOS: https://jbmc.co.uk/sos-candidates/ 

Recruitment and Tech are both not industries with the best reputation when it comes to Diversity, Equity and Inclusivity. That's why JBM and 40 Minute Mentor are on a mission to change that. With our podcast specifically, we're always looking to feature unique and inspiring stories, especially giving underrepresented voices a platform to share theirs. We're very much still a work in progress and are always looking to improve series on series and year on year. With that in mind, we have had the great pleasure of welcoming industry trailblazers and leading voices and DE&I over the years. In today's bite-sized episode, we're looking back on some of our favourite moments, featuring DE&I advice from: ➡️ Claire Valoti, VP for EMEA at Snap Inc ➡️ Check Warner, Partner at ADA Ventures ➡️ Sharmadean Reid, Founder of The Stack World ➡️ Marta Krupinska, former Head of Google for Startups UK and Co-Founder of CUR8 ➡️ Grace Beverley, Founder and CEO of TALA and SHREDDY ➡️ Baroness Oona King, VP of DE&I at Snap Inc ➡️ Alice Bentinck, Co-Founder of Entrepreneur First  

“The best way of treating people is not as if they're a resource, but by working with them to create something amazing.” In today's 40 Minute Mentor episode, we're joined by Anouk Agussol, the Founder and CEO of Unleashed. Unleashed are on a mission to gear up early stage and scaling companies for speedy and sustainable success, through people and culture. They help create thriving businesses and great places to work, through leadership programmes, coaching, bespoke people projects and embedded partnerships. JBM have loved collaborating with Anouk and the wider Unleashed team over the years and we loved finding out more about Anouk's journey and her advice for any Founders and leaders, in today's episode.  We chat about: ➡️ More about our sponsors, Alchemist [00:16] ➡️ Overcoming imposter syndrome [3:19] ➡️ The juggling act of being a parent and a Founder [04:37] ➡️ Anouk's career journey and why she chose the People function [09:08] ➡️ Why the People function is becoming increasingly more popular [11:13] ➡️ Her transition from Chief People Officer to starting her own business [14:17] ➡️ More about Unleashed [18:28] ➡️ Why HR is dead [21:55] ➡️ A podcast recommendation from us [23:16] ➡️ What a difference Unleashed has made to teams over the years [24:31] ➡️ Why your culture won't evolve organically [28:00] ➡️ When is the right time to hire a People person for your startup [32:01] ➡️ The key steps to evolving your culture [34:51] ➡️ How to attract and retain great talent [39:04] ➡️ The evolution of the People function in 2023 and beyond [42:05]  ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ More about Anouk: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anoukagussol/➡️ Check out Unleashed: https://www.unleashed.company/ 

“The key is to be niche on an audience, but fairly liberal in what's the best way for you to interact with them. And particularly with how to monetise that audience.” In this week's ‘Where Are They Now' feature episode, we're joined by James McClure - experienced C-level Tech Exec, Angel Investor, Advisor and Executive Coach. James has grown big names, like Airbnb and Google, internationally and scaled up VC-backed businesses, like SeatGeek and Adzuna, running the commercial operations in regional and global roles. Since the last time he's come on 40 Minute Mentor, James has made the move down under, officially turned his coaching, investing and advisory side hustle into a business and launched x2 online courses for busy tech execs. In today's episode, we find out: ➡️ Why James decided to move to Australia [02:03] ➡️ The importance of being active on social media, especially as a Solopreneur [05:22] ➡️ Defining where you get your energy from and finding your audience [08:03]➡️ More about our sponsors, Alchemist [10:59] ➡️ What to expect from James's online courses [12:06] ➡️ The biggest lessons he's learned as an angel investor [15:52] ➡️ How Founders benefit from angel investors [19:02] ➡️ More about his plans for 2023 [21:23] ➡️ How you can partner with JBM/40 Minute Mentor [22:42] ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ More about James: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmcclure/➡️ Sign up to “How To Angel Invest For Busy Tech Execs”: https://maven.com/reload-ventures/how-to-angel-invest➡️ Sign up to “Scale Your Impact Beyond Your Authority”: https://coleap.cc/s4m

Our guest is the founder and CEO of JBM, an executive search firm working with fast-growing tech start-ups and scale-ups. He is also the host of his own podcast, 40 Minute Mentor, which is one of the top careers podcasts in the UK.We talk to James Mitra about pivoting a business, the executive search market and much more. Here's what we discussed:Can you tell us a bit about your journey up until this point? (00:50)What has been a significant challenge you've faced in growing your business and how did you overcome this? (06:18)How did you know it was the right time to pivot your business? (14:54)What is a common challenge those in executive roles are facing right now? (18:44)It's well-reported and known that we are experiencing a skills shortage in the UK. Why would say are we experiencing this? (25:37)Some experts have said that businesses that focus on talent acquisition will be one of the lucky businesses to succeed this year. Is there any way you are preparing your business to capitalise on this? (30:16)Is success based on hard work or luck? (35:09)Good News Postcard: If you could change one thing about your life, what would it be and why? (38:54)What makes a great business leader? (40:41)Thanks to India from the Jill Dando News for bringing us The Good News Postcard this week. Get your dose of positive news by visiting The Good News Post, a website collated by hundreds of young people aged 8 to 18 in the UK. They've written real-life “news that's good for you”, covering people, animals, stories to cheer people up, and tips to make lives better.Be sure to subscribe to the podcast and the Business Leader YouTube channel for more interviews with some of the world's leading business figures. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As 2022 is coming to an end, we take the chance to look back and reflect on the last 12 months of 40 Minute Mentor. We did this, by asking some of the JBM team, our series sponsors and 40 Minute Mentor ambassadors for their favourite episodes of the year. To listen back to the episodes mentioned in today's episode, click through the list below: 

“Where it does become an issue for you, the people around you, your team and your family, is when you are burning out, getting stressed and ill, because you're not finding any balance at all.” In this second part of our new 40 Minute Mentor mini-series, we learn more about the lessons our Founder, CEO and host of this podcast, James Mitra, learned over the last 10 years of building and scaling JBM. If you haven't caught up with the first part of the series, yet, make sure you check it out here:  https://40-minute-mentor.simplecast.com/episodes/part-1-10-lessons-from-10-years-of-scaling-jbm-with-james-mitra-founder-ceo-of-jb-VKWGjvCD Today, we learn about: ➡️ The importance of long-term partnerships [01:08] ➡️ The impossible task of finding balance as a Founder [05:16] ➡️ Why you need to listen to your gut more [10:18] ➡️ Learn more about our Series Sponsors, Alchemist [14:52] ➡️ Why hiring is incredibly difficult, even when recruitment is your day job [15:34] ➡️ The importance of letting your hires leave on good terms, when it doesn't work out [19:23]  ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ More about James Mitra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmitra-jbm/➡️ More about JBM: https://jbmc.co.uk/

“I'm ashamed to say I was a bit embarrassed at times when I went to dinner parties and told people what I did for a living. There was always this reputation of sharky, dishonest recruiters.” This week, we're launching the first of a special two-part Series on 40 Minute Mentor. JBM turned 10 years old this year and we're officially turning the microphone and sharing our own Startup story. In today's episode, our Founder, CEO and Host of this podcast, James Mitra, will share how JBM was started and the ups and downs along the way, including: ➡️ The importance of building relationships [2:08] ➡️ JBM's mission and how this drives us as a team [04:00] ➡️ The mistakes James made along the way and how he overcame them [06:12]➡️ Learn more about our Series sponsors, Alchemist [11:26] ➡️ The power of mentorship and why that's always been the foundation of JBM [12:08] ➡️ How personal branding has made all the difference over the years [14:07] For more startup lessons, tune back in next week for part 2 of this mini-series.  ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ More about James Mitra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmitra-jbm/➡️ More about JBM: https://jbmc.co.uk/ 

“I realised that for the first time in my career, I reported to a board and investors, but the decisions were on me. It was all on me.” In this week's 40 Minute Mentor episode, we're joined by Stuart Packham, CEO of our Series Sponsor's Alchemist, JBM board advisor and longtime mentor and friend of team JBM. Our host, James Mitra, and Stu have known each other for years, dating back to their days at Michael Page, so it was extra special to have Alchemist as our Series sponsor and Stu joining us on the podcast today. We chat about: ➡️ Stu's journey through recruitment and into learning and development [02:05]➡️ Why recruitment is such a great foundation to your career [04:36] ➡️ His transition from recruitment to learning and development [07:58] ➡️ Why becoming a CEO was a much bigger shift than expected [10:47] ➡️ How he puts being people-centric first [14:00] ➡️ The imposter syndrome that comes with being CEO [15:42] ➡️ Realities of merging two businesses into one [18:43] ➡️ How Alchemist approaches L&D differently [22:51] ➡️ Transitioning from 98% face to face L&D sessions to digital and virtual sessions [25:56] ➡️ The benefits of bringing on external partners to help with hiring [29:42] ➡️ Why now is the time to put together a risk plan and not ignore the downturn [33:47] ➡️ What the future holds for Alchemist [35:59] ➡️ The advantages of being a board advisor [38:02] ➡️ Why Alchemist partnered with JBM and the results they've seen so far [40:06]  ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ More about Stu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuartpackham/➡️ More about Alchemist: https://thisisalchemist.com/40minutementor/   

James Mitra is a multi-seven-figure business owner, who fell into the recruitment industry by chance, but who has since marked himself as one of the most respected experts in his sector. He is the Founder & CEO of JBM, an award-winning Executive Search firm that works with some of the world's fastest-growing startups and scaleups. He's also the host of the popular 40 Minute Mentor podcast, in which he talks to business leaders about how they found their own versions of success. In this episode James joins me to talk about his fascinating ascent in the world of business, the value of perspective when it comes to recognising the person we are becoming, and how he continually strives to find the balance between life and work, as well as the mental health challenges he's personally faced and overcame.  KEY TAKEAWAYS The world of business is changing, and so are the expectations from managers. People are beginning to realise that jobs can be performed in a more natural way - less target-driven and more productivity-based. If you remember to put people at the heart of every transaction, and show that you care and empathise with their issues, then these actions will be remembered, and it'll help to build trust. This is how referrals and word-of-mouth are established effectively. Our definitions of success change as we develop within ourselves. Achievements are not always necessarily tied to financial goals, because once we reach them, we understand that there's far more to life. The challenges we face don't always show up on the surface, and so the only way to make sure we're taking care of ourselves and those we love, is to keep having conversations about mental health, and gradually normalise them. BEST MOMENTS 'I'm not the best people manager. I just don't have the patience for it' 'Go above and beyond for people and be a good person, and care' 'You can really have an impact on this world if you care enough' 'I want to change lives through what I do' VALUABLE RESOURCES On A Mission - https://omny.fm/shows/on-a-mission   James Mitra LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmitra-jbm/ JMB Website - https://jbmc.co.uk/  40 Minute Mentor Podcast - https://jbmc.co.uk/insights/category/40-minute-mentor/ ABOUT THE HOST Not so long ago, life was barely recognisable for Ellie McKay, raising three children under five, battling post-natal depression, facing redundancy and walking into the job centre to claim benefits with a double pram, no confidence, and wracked with insecurities. Fast forward to today, and life looks very different. Ellie committed to turning her life around for herself and her family. Following this commitment, she got to work and has now built multiple successful companies, as well as having created a multimillion-pound property portfolio from a standing start. Ellie is now on a mission to make a positive impact and add value to others through her podcast which has attracted phenomenal guests worldwide. The show is specifically to help those trying to reach their full potential through its inspirational and motivational content, as well as challenging conventional wisdom to discuss all the “hot topics” in a relentless pursuit of the truth. CONTACT METHODS: Website: http://www.elliemckay.com LinkedIn: Linkedin.com/in/ellie-mckay/ Facebook: Facebook.com/ellie.mckay.3150 Instagram: https://instagram.com/ellie_mckay_official?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= OAM Instagram: https://instagram.com/onamissionshow?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/EllieMckaySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“Don't think because you perhaps don't have a typical background for VC, that you're not welcomed. That's actually far from the truth.”In our penultimate episode of this 40 Minute Mentor series, we're joined by Eleanor Kaye, Executive Director at Newton Venture Program. Newton is a joint venture between London Business School and Local Globe VC, on a mission to ensure the next generation of VCs represents the world we all live in, by running programmes for people from overlooked or under-estimated backgrounds who want to break into VC or accelerate their career in the sector. As social mobility and diversity are topics very close to our heart at JBM, we're huge fans of the work Eleanor and the Newton Venture team are doing. In today's episode, we find out: ➡️ The difficulties of returning to work after being on parental leave [05:22]➡️ Her unconventional path into VC [06:43] ➡️ How she overcame her initial imposter syndrome [11:01] ➡️ The day to day of an Executive Director at Newton [12:44] ➡️ Advantages of an operational background [14:44] ➡️ A note from our sponsors, Alchemist [20:45] ➡️ The joint venture between London Business School and Local Globe VC [21:38]➡️ How to apply to Newton Venture Program [27:26]➡️ Leveling the playing field in VC [30:31] ➡️ Retaining diverse talent [32:08] ➡️ Advice for diverse Founders fundraising [35:15] ➡️ Europe's VC landscape and why you should consider a career in VC [36:30]  ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ More about Eleanor: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eleanorkaye/➡️ More about Newton Ventures Program: https://newtonprogram.vc/ 

“Within 24 hours, we said goodbye to all our corporate partners and set off on a new path.” In this week's bite-sized 40 Minute Mentor episode, we chat more about the pivot that turned JBM into the search firm it is today. James Mitra, Founder of JBM and Host of 40 Minute Mentor, talks us through why he decided to pivot the business, the drastic decision he had to make and why transparency, empathy and mentorship were so crucial to the success of the pivot.  ⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mmPlus, if you have any questions you'd like us to answer in our bite-sized Monday episodes, please get in touch with Hannah at hannah@jbmc.co.uk 

“There is nothing wrong with doubting yourself. Having a bit of self doubt is good, because it means you're constantly trying to improve, grow and evolve.” In this week's bite-sized 40 Minute Mentor episode, we tackle a topic that is often discussed amongst Founders and leaders - imposter syndrome. Having experienced imposter syndrome on many occasions over the last 10 years of leading JBM, our host James Mitra shares some of the advice that has helped him to push through self doubt. Plus, we hear again from two previous 40 Minute Mentors - Michelle You of Supercritical and Amelia Sordell of Klowt, and their own experience with imposter syndrome. ⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mmPlus, if you have any questions you'd like us to answer in our bite-sized Monday episodes, please get in touch with Hannah at hannah@jbmc.co.uk 

“Sometimes you can use difficult times to come up with incredible new ideas. It's a great opportunity to get your team to think creatively and empower them to come to you with suggestions and try new things. It's probably going to be pretty scrappy, but you never know, it might just be the making of your business.” In this week's bite-sized 40 Minute Mentor episode, we talk about navigating challenging times, as a Founder and business leader. James reflects on the pandemic and shares some of the best advice he's received over the years and some insights into how he's applied the advice during difficult times for JBM, including: ➡️ Increasing your transparency and communication with the team [1:43]➡️ Leila Zegna's advice on reminding yourself of what you can and can't control [3:20] ➡️ The importance of having a great board of advisors and mentors [5:18] ➡️ And why this could be a great time for you to innovate and come up with new ideas for your business [6:27]  

A short history of Joe & Nancy's marriage and plans to have a family. Also if you want to follow what JBM is up to check out this link here: https://linktr.ee/josephbarlow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/joseph-barlow/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/joseph-barlow/support

Joe speaks at Family Life Christian Center on the power of family. Check it out! Also if you want to follow what JBM is up to check out this link here: https://linktr.ee/josephbarlow --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/joseph-barlow/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/joseph-barlow/support

“The biggest shift in the candidate market is that people care just as much about how they work as what they do.” In this week's 40 Minute Mentor episode, we're joined by the brilliant Molly Johnson-Jones, Co-Founder and CEO of Flexa. Flexa is a global directory of verified flexible companies that lists companies by vacancies and flexibility percentage scores, benchmarked against thousands of data points. We're proud partners of Flexa and were ‘flexified' earlier in 2022. That's why we were so excited to catch up with Molly on the podcast, share her story and the incredible journey Flexa have been on. Molly shares some truly candid insights into her own journey and the future of flexible working, including: ➡️Her unfair dismissal from investment banking and how she bounced back after [06:43]➡️Why she started Flexa and how it works for candidates and employers [14:36] ➡️ The hardest parts of being a first-time Founder [18:33]  ➡️ Why investing in your mental health is so important [20:00] ➡️ Her advice for any aspiring Founders [22:23]  ➡️ What it's like to found a business with your partner and why it held them back when raising funding [24:31]  ➡️ Why flexibility means choice and how employers can embrace flexible working [31:33] ➡️ The cases in which stripping back flexibility can be beneficial [33:48]  ➡️ How employers can attract more talent in a very competitive market [36:31]  ➡️ What do the next 5 to 10 years of flexible working look like [40:53] ⛳ Helpful links:➡️ More about Molly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/molly-johnson-jones/➡️ More about Flexa: https://flexa.careers/➡️ JBM on Flexa: https://flexa.careers/companies/jbm 

“We've really found that added flexibility has been an amazing way to attract talent, retain talent, and give everybody a chance to work in a way they want to work.” In this week's bite-sized 40 Minute Mentor episode, we talk about all things flexible working and the way in which we've implemented more flexible ways of working here at JBM. We touch on the various benefits we introduced to the JBM team over the past 12 months, what's been working the best and the lessons we learned along the way. Whether you'd like to find out more about how you can benefit as an employer or you'd just like some candid insights into what is working and what isn't when it comes to flexible working at JBM - there's something for everyone in this bite-sized episode. 

“If you feel that you can be your vulnerable self, and you can bring your true self to work, you're going to push yourself outside your comfort zone and achieve more.”In addition to our usual 40 Minute Mentor episode on Wednesdays, we're launching a brand new bite-sized mentorship format. Starting today, every Monday, you can tune in and spend 4 minutes with JBM Founder and 40 Minute Mentor host, James Mitra. We'll be covering some of the most popular topics we get asked about, share first-hand experiences and mentorship; and you'll get a chance to submit your questions at the end of every episode. Today's episode is all about resilience. James shares his own experience of building resilience, within himself and the JBM team, why he almost threw in the towel 5 years ago and what 3 things helped him stick with it and turn JBM into what it is today.  ⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mmPlus, if you have any questions you'd like us to answer in our bite-sized Monday episodes, please get in touch with Hannah at hannah@jbmc.co.uk 

In today's episode we talk to Mr. Sridhar Ramanujam who founded Integrated Brand.Comm Ramanujam Sridhar is a communication consultant, author, columnist, teacher, trainer, cricket enthusiast and a passionate social activist.Brand Comm's  range of services include Public Relations, Digit al Marketing and Brand Advisory. Several well known brands such as the CavinKare, IIMB, JBM, Peps, IFIM, Manipal Global, NR Group, Suguna Foods, and Casagrand are some of the clients of brand-comm.He is a former President of the Advertising Club, Bangalore and a former president of the IIMB Alumni association. IIM Bangalore has recently awarded Sridhar as a distinguished alumnus of the institute. He was honoured by the Madras Advertising Club for his service to the advertising profession in South India. He has been awarded the Life Time Achievement Award for Communicators from Public Relations Council of India (PRCI) in March 4, 2017.Listen to this episode to learn "How to build a Trusting Brand"?"How building relationships will have a long lasting impact in the growth of business"?"How important it is to be different"?Connect with Mr. Sridhar  https://www.linkedin.com/in/sridhar-ramanujam-56882a9/Tune in to this episode on this link to listen from anywhere http://pod.link/1572767376Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify and Apple podcastE-mail: dream100@hasovan.com to get Podcast service for your bizCall to Action - Join the telegram group to share your views.https://t.me/+GWwZuajgeWdYEuxu 

“VC should be a great career for people from diverse backgrounds, because it's really a role where you're judged on your output. At the end of a fund cycle, it's pretty clear to see whether you're a good investor or not.” In our final 40 Minute Mentor VC Feature series episode, we're joined by Hannah Seal, Partner at one of the most prestigious VCs in the world and one of JBM's favourite clients, Index Ventures. Index Ventures is an international multi-stage venture capital firm, investing in technology-enabled industry disrupters. Their portfolio includes multiple 40 Minute Mentors, such as Unicorns Ankorstore and Multiverse and category defining companies like Bloom & Wild and Sourceful. As well as household names such as Deliveroo, Revolut, Glossier, and many others. In today's episode, Hannah shares some brilliant insights into how Index work and what they look for when assessing Founders, as well as some great mentorship for anyone looking to get into VC, including: Why she decided to pivot from Operator to VC [06:23]What skills Hannah relied on when making the transition [07:22]Hannah's advice for any Operators thinking of moving into VC [10:02]What differentiates Index Ventures from other VCs [11:22]How Index Ventures works with Founders [13:10]What Hannah looks for when assessing companies and their Founders [14:52]The trends Index Ventures are seeing at the moment and some of the sectors Hannah's getting excited about [16:28]How the economic downturn doesn't necessarily mean doom and gloom for Founders [18:58]What changes Hannah has seen in the European VC landscape, compared to the US [20:22]And why VC is actually a great career option for diverse talent [22:17] ⛳️  Helpful links: ➡️ More about Hannah: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-seal-78938a22/➡️ More about Index Ventures: https://www.indexventures.com/ ⭐Enjoyed this episode?⭐️Keep up to date with all our latest episodes, by hitting the subscribe button on your favourite podcast platform. And for any feedback on what you enjoy the most and ideas on what we can do to make 40 Minute Mentor even better, please leave us a review on https://ratethispodcast.com/40mm

Our guest is Cork hurler and All-Ireland winner Seanie McGrath. In our chat, the elusive and swashbuckling corner forward talks about his illustrious career with Cork from Under 14 to Senior.Seanie shares great insights into Cork hurling, including his experiences of being managed and mentored by the Cork legend Jimmy Barry Murphy. Having managed Seanie as a player from Minor to Senior, JBM would also bring Seanie in as a selector to the 2013 management set up. We learn about JBM's style and how he got the best from people.A theme which stands out in our conversation is Seanie's contagious positivity and cheeky confidence, which can be demonstrated in his famous duels with Clare rival Anthony Daly.The GAA Minor Moments Podcast, brought to you by Electric Ireland, is an interview series where well known Irish stars sharing memories from their sporting careers. We have all ten episodes available now with interviews with some of the biggest names in Irish sport including Brian Whelahan, Jamesie O'Connor, Eamon O'Shea, Niall Quinn, Danny O'Brien and Mick Galwey and many more.For more information on the Electric Ireland GAA Minor Championships go to https://www.electricireland.ie/gaa-minor-championshipsProduced and hosted by Fergal O'Keeffe at https://lume.ie#GAAThisIsMajor Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, the CEI esports team sit down to have a discussion with 2x 2KL Champion, 2021 Finals MVP, and All-Star Center, Dayfri. We discuss everything from where he got his gamertag from to him starting a food truck. We also talk about winning back to back championships, changes in the league, changes within the team, the OG WDG squad, JBM retirement, and much more. Follow Dayfri here: IG: https://www.instagram.com/ryancongerr/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/dayfri Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/dayfri Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Dayfri WDG IG: https://www.instagram.com/wizardsdg/ WDG Twitter: https://twitter.com/WizardsDG Follow Reachin' & Teachin' Team here: IG: https://www.instagram.com/reachinandteachin/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/CeiEsports Rob IG: https://www.instagram.com/robbp_/ Johnnie IG: https://www.instagram.com/jay_king23/

“Before you scale, you need to make sure you are solving big pains with a great value proposition.” It's not every day you get to speak to someone who turned their Startup into a Double-Unicorn with over 500 employees in just 3 years. Today's 40 Minute Mentor is Nicolas d'Audiffret, one of the Co-Founders of Ankorstore - the marketplace taking on e-Commerce giants like Amazon. Ankorstore was founded by entrepreneurs for entrepreneurs and is a partner to more than 200,000 retailers, florists, coffee shops and other concept-stores across 23 countries in Europe. Ankorstore have been on an incredible journey and reached their $2 billion valuation after just two years of launching their wholesale marketplace, and are backed by world-class VCs like Bond, Tiger Global and Index Ventures, to name a few.JBM have had a front row seat to their incredible Scaleup journey over the last years and we're so excited to have Nicolas on the podcast to share some candid Founder insights and mentorship, including: How Nicolas pivoted from being a consultant to an entrepreneur [06:15]The story behind his first Startup, A Little Market, and how he ended up selling it to Etsy [10:08]Why, even though the sale to Etsy looked like a huge success, Nicolas didn't only see it as such [11:45]How Ankorstore was born and more about their brilliant mission [13:23]What the dynamic between the four Co-Founders looks like and Nicolas's advice for any fellow Co-Founders listening [17:10]Why the pandemic was such a great opportunity of growth for Ankorstore and how they got to their $2 Billion evaluation in such a short amount of time [18:38]The crucial attributes Ankorstore look for when interviewing talent [22:40]His advice on building a truly authentic community [26:05]What the future of retail will look like and Nicolas's advice for anyone looking to break into the industry [28:32] 

It's a Marcus episode! As a coffee podcast, we thought it important to maybe tell the story of coffee itself so we asked our resident expert to weigh in. When a friend sent us a bag of Jamaican Blue Mountain that she picked from the Island in the same week Marcus roasted some JBM for another friend, an episode was serendipitously born.Marcus tells us the tale of the history of coffee, its many harrowing tales of smuggling and deceit, and we compare Marcus's roast to the roast of Jamaica. Who will win JBM Wars?"Oh thank god we're finally doing a good coffee episode."Further media:https://www.livehistoryindia.com/story/living-culture/the-curious-case-of-coffeehttps://blog.mcmenamins.com/gabriel-de-clieu-the-man-who-brought-coffee-to-the-new-world/https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2020/05/28/jamaican-uprising-samuel-sharpe-rebellion-christmas-uprising-great-jamaican-slave-revolt/ideas/essay/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTDy-L0NKIgHelp us buy questionable coffee by supporting us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/nobadreviewspodSponsored by Modest Coffee! Single-origin coffee without the snobbery. Visit https://www.modest.coffee/nobadreviews to see what they're roasting today.

“When people say that you can't do something, it's really because they can't do it. Don't stop doing what you want to do because someone told you you can't, because you can.” To ring in the halfway point of Series 7, we had the pleasure of interviewing an absolute icon in personal branding: Amelia Sordell, the Founder of Klowt.Klowt is THE personal branding agency on a mission to build entirely authentic personal brands that drive real results - something we've had the pleasure of experiencing first-hand here at JBM. In today's episode, Amelia shares some brilliant mentorship, including: The lessons she learned from her first business failing [08:40]How she dealt with the heartbreak and feelings of grief after her first business and how she decided the time was right to start another business [17:30]Her mission with Klowt and what inspired Amelia to start Klowt in the first place [21:36]Why personal branding is such a critical aspect of any successful business [28:10]Amelia's step by step advice on how you can get started with your own personal branding [34:30]Her advice on how to deal with negative comments - online as well as offline [40:45]How you can tackle imposter syndrome and why it's okay to doubt yourself [46:00] 

Welcome to Episode Sixty Nine (Season Four) of the Executive Career Jump Podcast with your host, Andrew MacAskill!This week's podcast features James Mitra, a fellow LinkedIn Top Voice for Careers.   James is the Founder of JBM, an award-winning executive search firm working with some of the fastest-growing Tech Startups & Scale-ups in the world. He also hosts one of the UK's most popular business and career podcasts ‘40 Minute Mentor' which has had hundreds of thousands of downloads to date and features inspiring career stories and mentorship from world-class business leaders, entrepreneurs, and sporting legends.We have turned the tables on him this week!  In this episode, we talk to James about how he got to where he is today from a background with two parents who were Preachers, how he fell into recruitment, and how he ultimately built a business that aligns with his values. There is also lots of discussion around what it looks like moving from the corporate world to the world of startups, mobilising your network, and why it's so important to bring your energy to an interview. Lots of golden nuggets in this episode whether you're a job-seeker, leader in transition, or a business owner. Enjoy!Linkshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmitra-jbm/

Game On, DC! is a show dedicated to you, the gamers and esports fanatics right here in the East Coast Capital of Esports! On this week's episode: • Washington Justice - Opener joins the roster • Wizards District Gaming - NBA2KL Expansion Draft, JBM nominated for Controller Esports Player of the Year, Combine, etc. • Caps Gaming - Caps Gaming Showcase (6v6), Caps Gaming 3s Challenge, & Caps Gaming Esports Youth Camp Follow the show on social media (Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram) @GameOnDC. You can also find Joey on twitter @KourtsideKing and Jon @Phiask0. This podcast is part of @OTNMedia get more at OTNMedia.org. If you're interested in becoming more involved in our growing community, come join our Discord server at discord.gg/TCkgF9m! Finally, please consider supporting us on Patreon at patreon.com/OTN. The support of our patrons is what makes this podcast possible. Thank you in advance for your generosity and support! Opening Music: Robin Hustin x TobiMorrow - Light It Up (feat. Jex) Closing Music: Dreams by Lost Sky

Game On, DC! is a show dedicated to you, the gamers and esports fanatics right here in the East Coast Capital of Esports! On this week’s episode:• Washington Justice – Opener joins the roster• Wizards District Gaming – NBA2KL Expansion Draft, JBM nominated for Controller Esports Player of the Year, Combine, etc.• Caps Gaming – Caps […]

Game On, DC! is a show dedicated to you, the gamers and esports fanatics right here in the East Coast Capital of Esports! On this week’s episode:• Washington Justice – Opener joins the roster• Wizards District Gaming – NBA2KL Expansion Draft, JBM nominated for Controller Esports Player of the Year, Combine, etc.• Caps Gaming – Caps […]

In today's 40 Minute Mentor episode, we're joined by Co-Founder and CEO of Amazing If, Co-Author of best-seller ‘The Squiggly Career', and Co-Host of the popular Squiggly Careers podcast (a JBM favourite!), Helen Tupper. Helen has enjoyed a hugely successful career at some of the biggest companies in the world – Virgin, Microsoft, BP and Capital One, to name a few – but decided to take the leap into the world of entrepreneurship together with her friend Sarah Ellis and start Amazing If – an award-winning training consultancy. At a time when so many of us are reassessing our post-pandemic careers, finding happiness and fulfilment at work has never felt more important. And that's where Helen and Sarah come in with their incredible coaching skills and resources. Speaking to Helen in today's episode was an absolute joy. She shares so many great insights and speaks with so much passion and enthusiasm about making work better for everyone. We cover a lot of ground in this episode, covering topics including: - Why the traditional linear career ladder isn't a realistic “one size fits all” career development strategy anymore and what companies need to do to support their teams' development better. - What a squiggly career actually looks like and how it will help with employee retention, when supported in the right way. - And what it's really like to build a successful business with a friend, without compromising your friendship. No matter what stage you're at in your career and whether you're in a big corporate or a Founder yourself, we know you'll take so much great advice from this episode with Helen. And a special thank you to our sponsors for this Series – Chipper Cash. The team have been on an incredible journey, having launched their borderless way to send money across Africa and beyond, in 8 countries so far and are widely considered to be Africa's most valuable Startup. To find out more, head over to their website, or tune into our 40 Minute Mentor episode with their Co-Founder and CEO, Ham Serunjogi. Enjoyed this episode? We'd love to hear your thoughts on this episode, so please leave us a review at https://ratethispodcast.com/40mm or get in touch at james@jbmc.co.uk If you want to find out more about Helen, take a look at her LinkedIn profile – https://www.linkedin.com/in/helentupper/ If you want to find out more about Amazing If, head over to – https://www.amazingif.com/ For the Squiggly Career podcast, simply head to - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/squiggly-careers/id1202842065 And to pre-order their new book ‘You Coach You', ask in your local bookshop or head over to - https://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Coach-Overcome-Challenges-Control/dp/024150273X

Game On, DC! is a show dedicated to you, the gamers and esports fanatics right here in the East Coast Capital of Esports! On this week’s episode:• Washington Justice – Happy and Vigilante join the roster• DC United – KingCJ re-signs• Wizards District Gaming – JBM’s retirement + the impact it’ll have on both WizDG and […]

Game On, DC! is a show dedicated to you, the gamers and esports fanatics right here in the East Coast Capital of Esports! On this week’s episode:• Washington Justice – Happy and Vigilante join the roster• DC United – KingCJ re-signs• Wizards District Gaming – JBM’s retirement + the impact it’ll have on both WizDG and […]

In this episode the CEI esports team talks to the NBA 2021 2K League Finals MVP Jack Mascone aka JBM, Starting Point Guard for Wizards District Gaming. JBM comes back as a member of the BFF Club w/ Rob and Johnnie. We discuss the 2KL Playoffs, 2KL Finals, and he makes his case for why this years Wizards team is the best 2KL team of all time. We talk about his aspirations with his brand, college esports, whats his plan after being a 2x champ, and much more. Follow JBM here: Twitter: https://twitter.com/JackMascone?s=20 IG: https://www.instagram.com/jackmascone/ Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jbmny Follow Reachin' & Teachin' Team here: IG: https://www.instagram.com/reachinandteachin/ Rob IG: https://www.instagram.com/robbp_/ Johnnie IG: https://www.instagram.com/jay_king23/

For solo workers, it can seem as if there is no clear path to career progression. For people in more traditional roles, progress is marked by a promotion, a bonus or a corner office. So do we need to start thinking about this differently? This week's guest James Mitra, founder of JBM (a values-driven executive search firm) and the host of the 40 Minute Mentor podcast, is here to help us change up our thinking. He advocates for thinking less about titles and salaries and more about ways to spend time with loved ones and the things that bring you joy.The 6th series of 40 Minute Mentor is available to listen to now. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Album review of Kanye West's tenth studio album, Donda, by Jungle Beats. INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/junglebeatsmedia/MERCH: https://sayysayysayy.com/PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JungleBeatsFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/junglebeatsmediaTWITTER: https://twitter.com/JBeatsMediaPODCAST: https://anchor.fm/junglebeatsJUNGLE BEATS GAMING: https://goo.gl/TbaaSc Alexander Emmanual Sandalis: https://www.instagram.com/alexanderemmanuall/ https://www.youtube.com/alexanderemmanual Thade Grey: https://www.instagram.com/thadegrey/ Jungle Beats aspires to be Australia's plug to the best most prolific/unique hiphop artists in the world. @ThadeGrey & @AlexanderEmmanual host Australia's biggest and weirdest music review channels. Jungle Beats is about creatively sharing our love for music/hiphop with energy, positivity and passion. We started this in 2015 with a weekly hiphop show on a radio station in Melbourne, Australia. In August 2016 we decided to create Jungle Beats Media. To us, Australia doesn't have a strong hiphop identity within culture. Who do you think of when you think hiphop in Australia? Most think of people OUTSIDE of this country. Maybe we can change that in some small way and push it forward. JBM is side hustle of ours, so it's not going to be perfect. It's gonna be haphazard, crazy, and we're gonna mess up. But that's music, and we love it.

In this episode the CEI esports team talks to Jack Mascone aka JBM, Starting Point Guard for Wizards District Gaming. It was great being able to sit down and talk to Nick about everything from first discovering 2K to quitting 2K in college. We discuss much more like his journey into the NBA 2KL, his tennis days, his parents wanting him to not play 2K anymore, the big purchase in college that changed his life, and much more. Follow JBM here: Twitter: https://twitter.com/JackMascone?s=20 IG: https://www.instagram.com/jackmascone/ Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/jbmny Follow Reachin' & Teachin' Team here: IG: https://www.instagram.com/reachinandteachin/ Rob IG: https://www.instagram.com/robbp_/ Johnnie IG: https://www.instagram.com/jay_king23/

My guest today is James Mitra, a new friend who I met after appearing on his podcast. James is clearly intent on doing business authentically, ethically, and for good, dedicating his free time to connecting those of us who are trying to grow with mentors. It became clear to me that he must have had some good mentors to have ended up like this, so I wanted him to tell you all about it.James Mitra is the Founder & CEO of JBM, an award-winning Executive Search firm that works with some of the world's fastest growing startups and scaleups. He's also the host of the popular 40 Minute Mentor podcast, and sits on the Board for the recently created ‘for good' accelerator, Unrest.Listen as we discuss:Looking back at the impact the pandemic had on work and employment.Avoiding the transactional nature of recruiting and doing business.How he became the master of his own destiny through his career journey.The story of how he married his best friend since 11 years old.How James' boarding school education created his fondness for mentorship.Communities and relationships are built by thinking long term and moving slowly.Be driven by a value plan, not a business plan.The best advice he's heard on his podcast, 40 Minute Mentor.Instagram: @mo_gawdatFacebook: @mo.gawdat.officialTwitter: @mgawdatLinkedIn: /in/mogawdatWebsite: mogawdat.com/podcastConnect with James Mitra on Instagram @40minutementor. Don't forget to subscribe to Slo Mo for new episodes every Sunday and Thursday. Only with your help can we reach One Billion Happy #onebillionhappy

Jungle Beats is back bringing a review of J Cole's The Off Season. Thank you all for your patience, sticking with us and being loyal. We appreciate and got love for all of you. @junglebeasmedia Alexander Emmanual Sandalis: https://www.instagram.com/alexanderemmanuall/ https://www.youtube.com/alexanderemmanual Thade Grey: https://www.instagram.com/thadegrey/ Jungle Beats aspires to be Australia's plug to the best most prolific/unique hiphop artists in the world. @ThadeGrey & @AlexanderEmmanual host Australia's biggest and weirdest music review channels. Jungle Beats is about creatively sharing our love for music/hiphop with energy, positivity and passion. We started this in 2015 with a weekly hiphop show on a radio station in Melbourne, Australia. In August 2016 we decided to create Jungle Beats Media. To us, Australia doesn't have a strong hiphop identity within culture. Who do you think of when you think hiphop in Australia? Most think of people OUTSIDE of this country. Maybe we can change that in some small way and push it forward. JBM is side hustle of ours, so it's not going to be perfect. It's gonna be haphazard, crazy, and we're gonna mess up. But that's music, and we love it.

What can i say i can really pick um', Jim is a well accomplished Martial artist and owner of Jacksonville's Martial arts and More and partial owner of Wilmington's JBM. This episode we talk about bringing Jiu Jitsu to Onslow count, Jim's journey as a martial artist, business do' and don't's, mentorship in one of the most dangerous sports and his start in to Martial arts. So let's have a chat Inside Us! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/inside-me/support

In today's episode of Climb In Consulting I speak with Tom Hewson, Senior Partner at RedCompass Labs, the specialist consultancy that helps financial institutions accelerate their payments and financial crime programmes. Tom's journey to where he is today has been rather unorthodox and is a great lesson in following your passion and being attuned to the opportunities that can come from it. Over his career he's gone from running his own record label, to IT contracting, through to launching RedCompass Labs, which he and the team have built into a consultancy of over 100 financial services specialists with offices across the globe. With such a varied career there was a lot for us to dig in to in this one and Tom and I talk about a whole range of really important topics for any consultant. Many of which I've not discussed with any other guest before. We cover everything from his early days in music all the way through to his approach to leading the RedCompass Labs team today, and quite a bit in between. Some of the highlights include: - Why following the money is never the right decision and how to cultivate happiness through finding your passion, whether that's within consulting or outside of it. - Tom's advice on building a highly diverse team – having created a team with over 20 nationalities represented – what he looks for at interview and why cultivating the ‘immigrant mindset' could be the key to your career success. - And what you should think about if you're looking to give back to your industry, the benefits of overinvesting in CSR and the return that RedCompass Labs have seen from their own initiative, the RedCompass Labs RedFlag Accelerator, the most comprehensive global database of Modern Slavery and Human Trafficking red flags specific for the financial sector. I really enjoyed this conversation with Tom. We cover a lot of different, and at times, deep topics, that I know you're really going to enjoy. Having been pointed to Tom by my friend James Mitra at JBM, I was expecting a good interview and Tom certainly exceeded those expectations. Whether you're trying to find your passion and break into the consulting industry, or you're looking to learn how you can build a highly diverse team in your current firm, I know you're going to get a ton from this episode. Get in touch with Tom via email at – tomh@redcompass.com Check out RedCompass Labs at – https://labs.redcompass.com/ Specific things discussed in the show Competing For The Future by Gary Hamel and CK Prahalad – https://amzn.to/3dxz87I The Empty Raincoat by Charles Handy – https://amzn.to/3dA4f2x

Me Mylène Lemieux, présidente du Jeune Barreau de Montréal (JBM), nous explique le fonctionnement des cliniques juridiques téléphoniques qui seront offertes gratuitement le samedi 24 et dimanche 25 avril de 9h à 16h.

In today's episode, I speak with Tara Lajumoke, Managing Director of FT Strategies. I first heard Tara speak on another podcast, the 40 Minute Mentor, run by my good friend and Create Engage client James Mitra at JBM. Having taken so much from that interview I knew we had to get her on the show and I was so pleased when she said yes. Tara's career is made up of an enviable list of prestigious global brands, having studied at both the LSE and Harvard and worked at Goldman Sachs, McKinsey and now heading up the Financial Times consulting business, FT Strategies. While on paper it may look like Tara has had an easy and effortless journey to the top, what makes her even more special is that her journey has been anything but. As a Nigerian woman who moved to the UK when she was 8 and spent her early years growing up on a council estate, Tara's seen her fair share of challenges. Both before entering the world of work and since, something she goes in to detail on in today's conversation. It's her drive to succeed, despite many of the perceived challenges that may have held her back that makes her story so special and something that she now pays forwards in both her mentoring of underprivileged young people and her candid and compassionate perspective on the challenges that those from minority groups face in climbing to the top in our industry. Something that she was recognised for earlier this year when she was named on the 2021 Black Powerlist. With such an incredible story there was so much ground for us to cover and we go in to detail on some really important topics in this conversation including: The importance of education and mentorship and why we need to be focusing on creating positive role models for those from minority backgrounds to follow. Climbing in McKinsey as a woman, a mother and a person from a minority background – Her experience of doing so and the advice she would give to others looking to emulate and learn from her success. And her decision to join FT strategies, why she decided to make the leap and what her and the team are doing to build a consulting business that delivers great client work while creating an environment that enables everyone to excel, regardless of their background. I don't throw around words like inspiring that often, but in this case I think it's very well deserved. Tara is a truly inspiring role model both to women and those from minority groups looking to climb in consulting as she is to those from the majority who want to know what they can do to help improve diversity and breed an inclusive culture across the consulting industry. With 2020 coming to an end and many of us considering what the next year holds, I know this episode will give you some food for thought and help you start 2021 in the best possible way. You can get in touch with Tara at – https://www.linkedin.com/in/tara-lajumoke-40aa29/ Visit FT Strategies at – https://www.ftstrategies.com/ Specific things we discussed in the show: Long Walk to Freedom: The Autobiography of Nelson Mandela - https://amzn.to/37HQrPf Subscribed: Why the Subscription Model Will Be Your Company's Future by Tien Tzuo -https://amzn.to/33SrhML

Episode 19 of the Locker Room Podcast features Jack Mascone, also known as JBM. Jack was the first pick of the 2020 NBA 2K League Draft, leading Wizards District Gaming to a championship in his rookie season. JBM recently joined Team USA Basketball as one of seven players to represent our country. Still not amazed? Imagine playing 2k for the first time two years ago at the age of 17! Tune in to the episode to hear what it's like to be a professional 2K athlete and where the future of esports is headed.

I am very excited to welcome my guest, Dr. Bill Crawford.  In addition to being named TEC Canada Speaker of the Year in 2016 and Vistage Speaker of the Year for 2019, Dr. Crawford holds a master’s degree and a Ph.D. in Psychology from the University of Houston.  He is also a licensed psychologist, author of 8 books, and organizational consultant.  Over the past 30 years he has created over 3500 presentations for organizations such as Sprint, Shell, The American Medical Association, and many others both nationally and internationally. His two PBS specials on stress and communication have been seen by over 15 million people, and he has been quoted as an expert in publications such as The New York Times, Entrepreneur, Investor’s Business Daily, The Chicago Tribune, and Working Mother just to name a few.  Website - www.BillCrawfordPhD.com Welcome to another episode of Brain Hacks 4 leadership, really excited to have Dr. Bill with us today. And thank you first off for taking the time to spend time with myself and my listeners on Brain Hacks for leadership. My pleasure. I'm really looking forward to this. I love the title of your podcast - Brain Hacks 4 leadership. I work with a lot with CEOs, and they really seem to like when we talk about that neuroscience and how to actually understand how the brain works in order to really bring those decisions to life. So the neuroscience of effective decision making seemed like a pretty good idea to use as a framework for what we're going to be talking about. Yeah, I think you're spot on. It's often called soft stuff, and then we have science behind it. We can help them, it's got a little more validity, right? Well, great. Thank you so much. And I'm excited about the topic that you're going to discuss. You want to tell us a little bit more about the topic and some of the science behind it? Sure. So when I was getting my PhD, I really wanted to understand the science behind why we think and feel what we think and feel. So I was learning a lot about the psychological theory, but I wanted to know the science. So I actually left the college of psychology and went to the college of biology and took a course called the biological basis of behavior. And in it, I learned that everything we think and feel and do, and say how we react to others, how others react to us all has to do with how the brain processes information. So I've spent the last 30 years of my life creating a system of philosophy, a framework that I call "life from the top of the mind" that basically teaches people how to access their best by accessing a specific part of the brain and how to avoid the stress, frustration, anxiety, the stuff that gets in the way of our ability to make effective decisions by avoiding a specific part of the brain. Yeah. I love that. Well, tell me what is some of the brain science behind the decisions? Where is that, in the brain that, that helps us make good decisions that maybe sometimes stops us from making the best decisions. Sure. And the brains, of course, very complicated, people spend their lives, studying the brain. So what I try to do just to make it as simple as possible, but also to make it understandable by dividing the brain into three parts, I call it top, middle and lower brain. So our lower brains is the brain stem, everybody's heard of that, that's the fight or flight part of the brain. The middle brain is the limbic system. And this is actually what I've learned is the gatekeeper or in today's terminology, this middle brain limbic system serves as the scanner, the processor and the router. So it scans incoming data, processes it, or interpret it, and then either routes it down to lower brain or up to the upper 80% of the brain, the neocortex, what I call the top of the mind, because this is actually where we have access to our interpersonal skills, problem, solving skills, confidence, creativity, et cetera. Some people called these frontal lobes of the neocortex. The executive function part of the brain because, this is where we make those executive decisions and those purposeful decisions. And so what I like to do is help people understand how and why this middle brain and the lower brain gets triggered. And then I give them a model that actually spells brain that shows them when they get triggered, when they're experiencing stress or frustration or annoyance or anything that gets in the way of their clarity, how to actually shift from the lower brain up into the upper 80% of the brain. So they can access those qualities and skills and decision making abilities that help them be most effective. I love that this is great because like you said, the leaders, executives, you're working with one of the critical roles that they play is making decisions and the types of decisions they make, how quickly they make them, how they're thinking through decisions, not only impacted them, but impacts hundreds, thousands of people that are working for them as well. So, yeah. So I'd love to hear how you have applied this in the executives that you coach, how they really, taken these concepts and put them in place. I do a lot of work with Vistage. Vistage is an organization of CEOs and they bring in a speaker on a regular basis and I'm one of the speakers. And so when I'm talking to these leaders, number one, they don't have a lot of people to bounce things off of. So they're kind of, if you know, the whole lonely at the top thing is, is important. And this is really one of the reasons why this just works so well because it gives them an opportunity. Not only to learn things from speakers like myself, but to have a group of people that they trust and can bounce things off of. So I will start by making sure I understand what gets in the way of their effective decision making. So I'll ask them a question, what are the things that trigger? What kind of situations or people have kind of stressed you out or got under your skin? And they'll say things like man, you know, difficult people and not enough business and angry customers and people who don't listen and traffic and, you know, there's all kinds of stuff I'll say. Okay, great. So when we're dealing with all of that stuff, how have we found ourselves reacting in the past? And they say, Oh man, I get stressed and I get frustrated and I get annoyed and I get angry. And I say, okay, so now we understand what I call - "the what" I like to talk about the what the why and the how so the what is the fact that this situation has triggered this response, but it's not just that it triggered a response. It's just, it's when it triggers this response, we try to use the response to deal with the trigger. So when we get stressed or frustrated or annoyed, we try to use that to deal with a difficult person or a difficult situation. And we can't because that actually is a lower brain response. So the stress, the frustration, the anger is a wonderful response in a fight or flight, dangerous situation, but it's a terrible response or an ineffective response, in real life because it actually keeps us from being effective. We don't know that and therefore we try to use that stress to deal with the trigger and we can't, and that makes the trigger seem worse, which triggers another reaction. And that makes it seem worse. And we get caught in a cycle. So in terms of the what, the why, and the how the, what is the cycle, it's not just that we get triggered it's that we get caught in the cycle. The why is the brain. So I teach them the three parts of the brain and I show them how these lower brain responses of stress, frustration, or anger, or just this middle brain interpreting some negative situation is dangerous and throwing us into that part of the brain. So once we now know what that is, we now know that in order to be effective in life and make effective decisions, we got to get to this clear, confident, creative part of the brain. So I teach them a model that spells brain that's about breathing, relaxing, asking questions, like how would I rather be feeling, what would I teach to someone? I love imagining being that way, because in the image we hold in our mind triggers a corresponding chemical effect in our body and then noticing a change. So it's B R A I N Breathe, Relax, Ask, Imagine, Notice. So that gets people to the top of the mind. Once they do the brain model, they are now in the top of the mind. Then I talk about, okay, now that we are there, let's talk about how to stay there. Let's talk about how to live there. Let's talk about how to rewire the brain. So we talk about neuropathways, we've got some old neuropathways that are going from my middle brain down to the lower brain. And what we want to do is create new neuropathways going from the middle of the brain, to the neocortex, the upper 80% of the brain. And then, and so what I do is I show them how to begin to rewire the brain and give them something to practice that if they'll practice every day, they will have rewired their brain within two to four months. So that's the second part of the model. Then the third part of the model is okay, when you're dealing with a person who is stuck in their lower brain, how do you actually get them to shift from their resistant brain to their receptive brain? Because one of the jobs of leaders is to deal with people around them, inspire people around them and to deal with people who disagree with them and to get them into what's called a solution focused conversation. So the CEOs really love that because they're always dealing with people who aren't listening to them. And so the idea that they can actually get someone to shift from that resistant brain to the receptive brain is pretty exciting to these folks. Oh, I love that. I love that, that whole methodology around how you're getting them to really think about their reactions and then the things that they can do and put in place, and then getting them to shift from resistance to receptive, right. Creating that influence. So could you dig a little further and tell us what are some of the practices? What's the practice that you have them put in place? Great. Sure. So once they've learned the brain model, which actually spells brain, so it's, you know, it's pretty easy to do you , there's some four by four breathing. Some people call it the box, breathing saying the word, relax on the exhale. So you're kind of having this upper 80% of the brain literally take over breathing and relaxing, which are normally controlled by the lower brain. So those two steps have this upper 80% of the brain regain control, but then not stopping with the breathing. A lot of people tell me they really like breathing, but then when they stop breathing here comes the anxiety again. So breathing just kind of puts you in a position to then say, okay, if I don't want to feel stressed, angry, frustrated, how do I want to feel? And beginning to create a certain image in mind, who am I, when I am clear and confident and creative, that actually triggers certain chemicals, serotonin and endorphins versus adrenaline, noradrenalin and cortisol, and then notice the change. So once they're in the top of the mind using the brain, I say, okay, so what we want to do is to recognize that our perspective on life will trigger either that lower brain or the upper brain. This is where I bring in cognitive psychology and help them change their perspective from "this makes me this way" to "Wait a minute. My middle brain is interpreting some negative situation as dangerous and throwing me into the part of the brain that's designed to deal with danger". So it's important they get past "the difficult people drive me crazy" or "hard decisions really worry me" or "lack of business really frustrates me". We don't want the trigger to have the power to throw us into the lower brain. So we changed the perspective from "this makes me feel this way" to my middle brain is interpreting some negative situation as dangerous, throwing me into the lower brain. Then once we have decided, here are the qualities and characteristics I want to bring to life, here is what I tell them to do to rewire the brain. We can't wait until we're dealing with a difficult person or a difficult situation. Because by that time we're triggered, we have to practice going into life already in this clear, confident, creative part of the brain. So I tell them to wake up and before they do anything, before they look at their phone, before they turn on the TV, before they talk to anybody, ask a question, what's my highest purpose this morning, which means what are the qualities and characteristics I want to bring in to the morning? So let's say it's clear, confident, and compassionate. All right. So I want to, how do I want to be when I'm with my family, clear, confident, compassionate, what does it look like? How do I want to be when I'm driving to work? So when, when somebody cuts me off, I still want to be clear, confident, and compassionate. When I'm dealing with something at work, I want to be, you know, there's, in other words, they create an image of how they want to be in the morning, but just the morning, because I want them to limit the time that they're practicing this stuff. Then around lunchtime, I tell them to reboot and reboot means, do the brain model or say a prayer, or take a walk outside to do some deep breathing or do something that creates a moment of clarity. Moment of serenity, Stephen Covey calls it the pause button, Viktor Frankl in his book, Man's Search for Meaning calls it the space between the stimulus and the response. So you create a space 15, 20 seconds. Doesn't need to take very long and you stop and you breathe. And then you ask yourself a top of the mind question. What's my highest purpose this afternoon, just the afternoon. And you choose qualities or characteristics you want to bring into the afternoon. And you imagine going into the afternoon, practicing being this way. And then that is your practice for the afternoon. Then on the drive home, or sometime between the afternoon, the evening you reboot. And you ask that question, what's my highest purpose this evening. So you're bringing these qualities into the evening. So you're rebooting in the very beginning, you're bringing certain qualities into the morning. You're rebooting around lunchtime, bringing qualities into the afternoon, rebooting around dinnertime or the drive home, bringing qualities into the evening. And that has you practicing, going into life already in the upper 80% of the brain. And I tell people, if you will do this every day for two to four months, that will rewire your brain because every time you're practicing it, you are creating and reinforcing new neural pathways that go from the limbic system to the neocortex. I love that. I love that. Yeah, you're creating those habits because we're just a combination of habits. People get that habits are really just neuropathways. And the reason old habits have been ruling us because we have these old neuropathways, which by the way, don't go away just because we decide we don't like them. They're still there. So if we don't start practicing the new stuff, we will be by definition, practicing the old stuff, because it's just there and it is habitual. So that's where I really encourage them to practice this because it will take some practice in order to rewire the brain. But when they get that they're rewiring the brain and it's going to help them access this intelligent part of who they are. That's where they feel more willing to do the work. I love that. I love that practice, that exercise. I'm sure you've seen a lot of great results with some of the leaders that you've coached as you've gone through this. Do you have any specific examples of how it's really helped them make better decisions? Yeah. I was doing a leadership retreat for an organization outside of Cincinnati. They're called JBM packaging. They make envelopes and things, and it's like a 24 hour plant that makes this stuff. And we were on a leadership retreat. We were in this cabin in the woods. It was really great. And the leadership team was there. So I took them through the model and they just went nuts like, Oh man, this is so cool. And because they were the leadership team and the CEO was there as well, they started thinking, okay, wait a minute. How could this become part of our culture? Because they were really big on bringing a perspective to the culture. They said, Hey bill, would you be willing to teach this to everybody? Our organization? I went - sure. And so I went and I did three shifts. You know, this is a 24 hour plant. So one of them was 4:30 in the morning and other one is 11:30. And another one was like 6:30 in the evening. But I taught this model to everybody and they created as part of their culture. And so they now call it a "top of the mind culture" and it infuses how they hire people and how they deal with disciplinary things. And the CEO went home and talked to his family. He said, you know, family given that I'm the leader of this family, I think, and this is something I tell leaders that they really ought to be willing to interact with people as if it is kind of being videotaped. And this videotape could be used as a training film for everyone in their organization and their family. So the CEO, his name was Dan. He went home and told his family, said, you know, I just learned that I have a responsibility to you guys. I should be interacting with you in a way that could be used as a training film. So I tell you what, if you see me interacting with you and he was telling his kids, his teenage kids, this, if you see me interacting with you in a way that you don't feel should be used as a training film, would you please let me know? And of course the kid says, sure will dad, but it was his commitment to this process that I found so valuable that he was willing to do this. And of course it changed his relationship with his teenage kids. Cause he was no longer going from arguing. He knew that if this were being recorded as a training film, how would he want his kids to emulate what he was doing as a leader and as a parent. Wow, that is really powerful because that's not just an example of how leaders can help themselves. But it's impacting organizations, cultures and their personal lives. Exactly. Because as leaders see, we are the powerful people in people's lives. People are looking at us as a model for how powerful people get things done and they will emulate what they see, which is great when we're choosing qualities and characteristics that we want them to emulate. Not so great when we're coming from that lower brain. Next question for you is how would you apply this to yourself personally? How has it impacted you, your relationships and how you make decisions? Yeah. Well, I like to make sure that I'm practicing what I'm preaching. So what I do is whenever I'm dealing with a quote unquote stressful situation, I just imagine that all of the people in my seminars are watching me going, let's see how the hot shot psychologist deals with this. So this whole idea of living life as if you're being recorded to be used as a training film, whenever I encounter a negative situation, I just say, okay, what if this were a training film? So not too long ago when I was flying, flying now because nobody is, but when I'm flying, I went to the airport and they said, yeah, we've canceled your flight and I could start to feel the cortisol go down the back of my neck, but I knew what was going on. And I went, okay, so what are we going to do? They said, well, don't worry, we've rerouted you through Orlando. And you're going to arrive in Long Island about 12 o'clock tonight. And I went, Nope, not gonna work that's way past my bedtime. So I said, you know, is there a place, you know, I don't mind driving. Is there a place I can fly to? And then I can drive to long Island. And I said, what about LaGuardia? And they went, Oh, look at that. Well, yeah, there's a direct flight to LaGuardia. I tell you what, here's your ticket? The flight is boarding right now. Now I'm at the ticket counter. Right? I haven't gone through security. Here came the cortisol, but I went, okay, all right. What if this were a training film? All right. So I was optimistic and I've got TSA precheck. So I went through TSA precheck and they went, you know, when you go through the little thing, you have been chosen as a random person to be selected and here came the cortisol. But every time I see the, because I know what's happening. And because I was seeing it as a training film, I was able to keep it from going all the way down there. I could feel myself start to be triggered, but then I shifted back up to the top of the mind. So that's what I try to do whenever I'm dealing with a challenging situation is to recognize, okay, Bill, you teach people how to do this. This is your opportunity to practice what you preach. I love that. I love that concept of living life, as if it were a training, film, I would have to think about some of the things I'm doing personally. Maybe apply that myself because it is important. We should be applying what we're talking about all the time. And it does really change our health and our relationships. Oh, speaking of health, by the way, when we get triggered down into this lower brain, it triggers adrenaline noradrenaline and cortisol, cortisol rushes throughout our body shutting down what it believes are non-essential systems so that we can go into fight or flight. And one of those non-essential systems it shuts down is our immune system. So man, what we need right now is a really healthy immune system. We don't want this cortisol shutting it down, thinking we're in a fight or flight situation. When we're coming from the upper 80% of the brain, we're not only making better decisions, we're triggering serotonin and endorphins, which actually strengthens our immune system. In addition to helping us think clear, that's what the serotonin does, helps us think clearer and make better decisions. Yeah. And just understanding that once we understand the science behind it and how we're wired and those small things that we can do really catching ourselves and, you know, using the practices that you talked about before. So as our leaders are listening to this and thinking about how they may apply this themselves. And sometimes it can be overwhelming thinking about everything, right? What's one small thing that you would recommend that someone can put in place right now, after listening to this? What I would encourage them to do now that they know that their stress and their frustration, their anger, their resentment and all those negative emotions, which are understandable. They don't have to feel bad about them. But if they'll start to recognize, these are brainstem reactions, lower brain reactions that are wonderful. When I'm in a physically dangerous situation, wherever fight or running away is what I need to do. But it actually gets in the way of my effective decision making. So one of the things they can ask themselves whenever they find themselves thinking or feeling anything is, Hey, am I coming from my lower brain? Or am I coming from the top of the mind? And if I'm coming from the lower brain, what you don't want to do is trust that as a energy for making a decision. At the very least wait, you know, give yourself an hour or sleep on it or something until you can really know you're coming from the top of the mind, if just, they stop trying to make decisions when they're in that lower brain, that will be a huge factor in terms of their better decision making, going forward. I love that. I love your brain acronym as well. And so, you know, what you told us is that we have three parts of your mind, right? We've got that lower mind, that fight or flight that middle mind that's our Limbic. You talked about scanner processor, router gateway, right? And then the top that neocortex, which is really their executive thinking skills, the part of the brain that we want to access the most. And also the top of the mind is not just where we are intellectual. Certainly our intellect comes from there, but this is where our ability to be compassionate and our ability to understand another person, our ability to love people comes from this. The in love stuff is the lower brain, which is a good stuff. But the ability to really be compassionate with someone that's a, that's an upper brain perspective. And as a leader, if compassion is what we want in our organization, that's something, we gotta model. Absolutely. One of my mentors, John Maxwell says, one of the things that employees want to know about you is that you care about them. Absolutely. And, so you have to be able to access it. I have to show that compassion and people don't know care how much, you know, until they know how much you care, you know? Absolutely. That's great. And then you talked about your brain acronym, which is that, why, what, what triggers us the why - BRAIN is breathe, relax, asking questions, imagine and notice. And then really having a practice where we start putting in place awareness strategies and stating intentions three times a day, which is so powerful. I do that personally in the morning, but I've never stopped to do it in the afternoon and evening. So I can't wait to start applying this personally as well. It's so valuable. I'd be really curious to know what else you're working on right now. Anything? Yeah. Well, given that right now is me stuck at home because I'm in this vulnerable demographic, you can tell, I've got this gray hair. I just turned 70, not too long ago. And so well, thank you. You made it to 70. And so traveling isn't an option. So what I've done is I've tried to create a virtual environment where I can do my trainings and I've done like 40 of these ever since this whole thing started. I used my life from the top of the mind books. I have a book that is called Life from the Top of the Mind that lays out the system and the philosophy. So going to an organization, teaching this to the leadership team, teaching this to the organization themselves, I mean, what leaders tell me is when they can get everybody in the organization coming from the top of the mind that makes their leadership part of the process so much easier. Because now they're dealing with people who are making decisions. And just recently I started working with families and family businesses because in a family or a family business, when someone says something, it goes way deeper than just an ordinary conversation, both good and bad. And so a lot of people who are in families or having a family business find themselves kind of in conflict with these people that they love more than life itself. But the intensity of the relationship sometimes almost gets in the way of making good decisions. So I teach them the model and I go and do a workshop with them and then kind of support their families in coming together. So that's, that's what I've just started to roll out. Plus the book The Top of the Mind is just recently on audible. I've just now put it on audible. It is now an audio book. So for those folks who like to listen, it's there. I love that. I love audible personally. I like to go for walks and work in my garden. I noticed that on your website, you said it's not only on audible, but isn't it you on it as well? It's me reading the book because I write in the first person. So I didn't want somebody else to read it. Cause you know, when they said I, it wouldn't be my voice and it would be weird, but boy, was it really hard to read your own work. Well, goodness gracious. It took me about a year to do it cause I would, I would read and then I'd mess up and I'd have to go back and going to jump in. So, but it's, it's there and I'm happy with the product. I love that. I'm definitely going to get that myself too. I love that you put it in your own words and you're really, you know, you're not just helping leaders, but you're changing lives and helping families and really making a difference. And I really appreciate you spending the time with us today to share some key things we could do right away. They're going to help us not only at work but at home. Ah, yeah, that's what people tell me. They love the fact that the material they're learning in a, in a seminar or a workshop, they're able to apply pretty much everywhere in their life because you know, sometimes people say, you know, Bill, I'm pretty good at work. It's when I get home, that's when I really get triggered. And so the ability to bring these top of the mind perspective there, uh, people tell me it's really valuable. Thank you so much. I really appreciate the time. And I hope to bring you back again. Are you writing another book or thinking of another book right now? I have a book called, it's my eighth book, My Life from the Top of the Mind, what's called my flagship book and it has my seminar in it. I've got a book called College from the Top of the Mind where I take it and apply it to people in college. I've got another book called What to Say. So this third part of the model that teaches people how to shift from the lower brain to the upper brain. People really need to see examples of that. Cause that's the hardest part of the system. And so I've written another book called What to Say, where I really go into depth. Okay. When you're talking to your teenager, when you're talking to your spouse or when you're talking to your direct report or when you're talking to your boss or something like that, how do you frame this conversation so that it moves to a solution focused conversation? Wow, such great resources. I'm definitely going to get those to use with myself and my clients. Cause there's this very common needs and common challenges that we have. Well, thank you so much. I look forward to having you back again. I would love to, and thanks for the invitation, when I saw the title of your podcast and went, Oh cool. This is gonna, this is going to fit right in there with it. It does. It does. Thank you.   To reach out to Dr. Crawford, his website is www.BillCrawfordPhD.com If you would like to reach out to me for Executive Coaching or Organization Consulting, you can reach me at jillwindel@talentspecialists.net and my website is www.TalentSpecialists.net.  

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Mark Landers and TJ Ryan join Anthony Daly to discuss motivation and psychology in a hurling dressing room. And how much have methods changed since the lads were being fired up by Tom Ryan and Ger Loughnane and JBM.

Akibat pandemi Covid-19 ini ratusan ribu pekerja migran sudah pulang ke tanah air karena berbagai masalah. Hasil survei HRWG bersama dengan SBMI dan JBM pada periode 21-30 April 2020 menunjukan persoalannya meliputi tidak mendapat gaji, beban kerja berganda, pembatasan mobilisasi, perampasan hak libur, depresi dan tidak mendapatkan upah lembur. Berdasarkan data Migran Care, diperkirakan terdapat sekitar 4,5 juta pekerja migran Indonesia di luar negeri. Sebagian besar di antara mereka adalah perempuan yang bekerja di sektor domestik (sebagai PRT) dan manufaktur. Kepulangan mereka tentu membawa berbagai konsekuensi dan persoalan baru. Padahal untuk bisa berangkat ke luar negeri menjadi pekerja migran tidak sedikit yang harus menempuh jalan panjang dan berliku. Perjalanan ini yang ditangkap Sutradara Ismail Fahmi Lubis lewat film Dokumenter Help is on the Way yang meraih Piala Citra tahun lalu. Kita akan berbincang dengan dua tokoh yang ada di film dokumenter tersebut Tari Sasha dan Muji Rahayu yang saat ini masih bekerja di Taiwan dan juga Sutradara Help is on the Way, Ismail Fahmi Lubis. *Kami ingin mendengar saran dan komentar kamu terkait podcast yang baru saja kamu simak, melalui surel ke podcast@kbrprime.id

Le confinement est temporairement terminé, nous allons peut-être pouvoir reprendre le déroulement habituel de nos émissions, on y travaille, mais en attendant il y en a qui vont encore charbonner, comme de bons soldats, ce sont nos amis de la police, qui ont une réputation à tenir.Les futures lois d'exceptions se mettent en place, on nous promet des laisses électroniques dans le cul, et gare aux voyous qui voudraient passer outre, l'ordre veille. On nous rappelle constamment que la prévention c'est bien, mais un coup de tonfa sur le coin de la gueule c'est encore mieux. Certains aiment dire aussi qu'il y a des biens, des bons, qui font un travail honnête et protègent les populations, et ainsi ils seraient dignes de notre respect. Nous leur répondrons que travail et honnêteté sont antinomiques et que si la police était respectable, elle disparaîtrait.Ce soir donc, la maison de la rédaction d'En Attendant Godard vous propose le volume 21 de ses mixtakes, et la deuxième partie de notre mixtake musicalo-cinéphile consacrée aux agents de la pacification urbaine et rurale. Elle a été orchestrée par El Comandante, Mat B., Simon l'Ancien et JBM. Elle a été masterisée et mise en voix par Gaal.Cette mixtake est également disponible sur mixcloud.PREGENERIQUE / Extrait Sudden Impact (Le Retour de l'Inspecteur Harry - Clint Eastwood - 1983)EXTRAIT / The New Centurions (Les Flics ne dorment pas la nuit - Richard Fleischer - 1972)THE EQUALS / Police on my BackJOHN HOLT / Police in HelicopterJOCELYNE DORIAN / Le GIGNEXTRAIT / Heat (Michael Mann - 1995)THE OFFSPRING / L.A.P.D.THE CLASH / Police and ThievesEXTRAIT / Ne Réveillez pas un flic qui dort (José Pinheiro - 1988)MINISTERE A.M.E.R / Sacrifice de pouletsDEAD KENNEDYS / Police TruckEXTRAIT / Le Massacre des morts-vivants (Non si deve profanare il sonno dei morti - Jorge Grau - 1974)D.S. 13 / Fukk the CopsVOMIT YOURSELF / Police FacticeEXTRAIT / The Wire (Simon - Burns)HAPPY MONDAYS / God's CopANNIE CORDY / Mon C.R.SLADISLAS COLERE / La Flicaille (extrait Je te tiens, tu me tiens, par la barbichette - Jean Yanne 1978)COCKNEY REJECTS / Police CarBOBBY LAPOINTE / Monsieur l'AgentBRUCE SPRINGSTEEN / State TrooperPATRICK TOPALOFF / La GendarmerieEXTRAIT / Les Inconnus "Le Commissariat de Police"VLADIMIR COSMA / Inspecteur la Bavure

Moving on to a different career path will always be a daunting prospect and it can be difficult to know how best to approach it. We regularly hear from candidates who are looking to make the shift and aren’t always sure where to start. And equally, from clients, unsure about taking a risk on someone with a different or out of the ordinary background. If you’re in this position, then you’re going to love today’s episode as our guest tells you all about his remarkable career change. Chris Severson has never been one to shy away from risk. Having started his career in the US Marine Corps as a TOPGUN fighter pilot, he took his adventurous approach into his post military career, successfully making the switch into leadership roles in the corporate and start up worlds. Chris has held senior positions across Barclays, Atlas Mara, Digicel and most recently at PMI, and has lived in the USA, the Middle East, Switzerland and the Caribbean. As Chris explains in today’s episode, making a career change is going to be hard work, no matter your background, but building a great network is the key to success. During our conversation we elaborate further on the power of networking and dig deeper into how leveraging your innate capabilities can help you as a leader. Some of the topics we discussed, include: - His experience of transitioning from a high pressure and disciplined military career into the private sector. Plus, how his background as a Marine taught him to be an enthusiastic leader and communicator. - The importance of networking when changing careers and how best to ‘find your tribe’ and build good relationships online and offline. - And his advice for building a high performing team. From hiring people smarter than himself, to his favourite interview question - it’s certainly one that might catch you off guard! Chris has been a candidate, client and friend of JBM, as well as a personal inspiration to James throughout his career. He is an amazing and charismatic leader, so it was fascinating to dig deeper into his diverse and exciting career journey. We're sure you’re all going to really enjoy this one – especially any of you who are fans of the movie Top Gun! I’d love to hear your thoughts on this episode, so please do get in touch at james@jbmc.co.uk If you want to find out more about Chris, check out his LinkedIn profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisseverson1/

Today's episode represents a huge landmark for the show and I can't believe we are here already. Today is episode 50 of Climb in Consulting and it's crazy to think that something I started as a little side project almost two years ago has grown to where it is now. Specific things we discuss in the show: Wacky Rally - http://www.wackyrally.co.uk/ Baringa Partners - www.baringa.com Good to Great By Jim Collins - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0712676090/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_Lf--DbZB0NR45 Anything You Want by Derek Sivers - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0241209048/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_kg--DbGEQ8FQ2 The Hard Thing about Hard Things - Ben Horowitz - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0062273205/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_Wh--DbW4Z6BN0 To celebrate episode 50 and do something a little different I decided to turn the tables and take a dose of my own medicine. Today's episode is taken from a live YouTube recording we did a couple of months ago and sees me interviewed by my good friend, create engage client and host of the fantastic 40 minute mentor podcast, James Mitra from JBM. Over the last two years I've spoken to countless listeners on all sorts of topics relating to climbing in consulting. Everything from my advice for getting in to the industry to the reasons I left and more recently, people asking for my advice on how to start their own businesses. I wanted to bring all of this together and give you a chance to find out a bit more about me, find out about my journey and hopefully learn a few things that may help you. As this was being recorded live for youtube there are a few audio hick-ups at the start so please bare with it. After the first 10 minutes or so, everything is just as you'd expect from an episode of climb in consulting. Likewise, James and I had had dinner, we'd had a few non-alcoholic beers and were both nicely relaxed by the time we came to the interview. We jump around a little but stick with us, we cover some hugely important topics and ones I know many of you will be struggling with. I really hope you enjoy this episode and that hearing my journey inspires you to do whatever it is you've been holding back from doing! This episode is brought to you by Create Engage the Digital Marketing agency for the disruptive Management Consultancy.

It’s be one year since we started this podcast! I’m happy for all how enjoy it’s raw unedited content. Looking forward to continuing and improving JBM!

Today’s episode of the 40 Minute Mentor is another bonus episode which was recorded live at our JBM drinks event in September. We run these events every quarter, to bring together clients and candidates who have helped us spread the word about JBM and to thank them for all their help and support. These events are always great fun and give our network a chance to get to know some of the great business leaders that we get to work with. Our special guest on the night and your 40 Minute Mentor today is the brilliant Pippa Lamb, Partner at Sweet Capital. Pippa has had a fascinating career so far. After graduating from the University of Oxford, she joined the Global Equity Strategy Team at J.P. Morgan where she spent 5 years before leaving to pursue her MBA at Harvard Business School as a Fulbright scholar. Following her MBA experience, she decided to take a different course and moved into the VC world, joining Sweet Capital – the investment fund established by the founders of King.com. She climbed quickly and earlier this year was promoted to Partner across their London and LA offices. I really enjoyed my interview with Pippa and there’s some great advice in here for anyone considering a bold career move. Be it pursing an MBA, moving into venture capital or taking a step out to do something else. We cover a whole range of topics in this one, including: - How Pippa landed the role at Sweet Capital and her advice for anyone looking to move into the world of VC - Why Pippa left banking to undertake her MBA and the key questions that she would recommend asking yourself when deciding whether an MBA is the right choice for you - And her advice to start ups, and what she looks for in founders and companies that are pitching to her in her role at Sweet Capital It was great to sit down with Pippa and hear her advice on some of the hot topics that we regularly get asked about by our candidates. If you’re thinking about doing an MBA, looking to move into VC or want to learn how your business can secure its next round of investment, you’re going to love this conversation! If you want to find out more about Pippa you can check out her LinkedIn profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/pippalamb/ If you want to find out more about Sweet Capital you can have a look at their website - https://sweetcapital.com/ We’re always keen to get feedback so if you have any thoughts once you’ve listened to this interview, just drop me an email at james@jbmc.co.uk Disclaimer: All views and opinions expressed in this episode are our guest's own opinion and do not represent any entity with which they've been, are now, or will be affiliated in the future.

In this episode, Joesph Barlow and audience members converse about the power of several Godly Character traits and how they serve the purposes God wants them to in our lives each and every day. In the meeting, the core points were the importance of Hope, Faith, Focus, and Desire. He goes in deeper to describe people's lives with these attributes and people's lives without them. We also hear from audience members to gain a broader insight into how greatly we should value our character walk with the Lord to achieve what we are called to. This episode is from our weekly Fresh Move meetings. Stay tuned for more content from our weekly JBM meetings. God bless! This episode was recorded on 10/23/19. For more information visit https://www.josephbarlow.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/joseph-barlow/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/joseph-barlow/support

In this episode Pastor Joe handles the topic of abiding in the Secret place of the most high. He covers personal and biblical examples of situations that called on a faith that transcends one's circumstances. He pulls from Psalm 91 to put in perspective how crucial it is to have a personal relationship with Christ and that is built around an intimate space where only you and God dwell. It is important to cultivate a space for knowing and delighting in God because without time spent intimately recalling his perspective one will spiritually atrophy into the flesh and all of its destructive sinful ways. This episode is from our weekly Fresh Move meetings. Stay tuned for more content from our weekly JBM meetings. God bless. This episode was recorded on 10/22/19. For more information visit https://www.josephbarlow.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/joseph-barlow/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/joseph-barlow/support

In this episode of The Podlets Podcast, we are diving into contracts and some of the building blocks of the Cloud-Native application. The focus is on the importance of contracts and how API's help us and fit into the cloud native space. We start off by considering the role of the API at the center of a project and some definitions of what we consider to be an API in this sense. This question of API-first development sheds some light onto Kubernetes and what necessitated its birth. We also get into picking appropriate architecture according to the work at hand, Kubernetes' declarative nature and how micro-services aid the problems often experienced in more monolithic work. The conversation also covers some of these particular issues, while considering possible benefits of the monolith development structure. We talk about company structures, Conway's Law and best practices for avoiding the pitfalls of these, so for all this and a whole lot more on the subject of API's and contracts, listen in with us, today! Note: our show changed name to The Podlets. Follow us: https://twitter.com/thepodlets Website: https://thepodlets.io Feeback and episode suggestions: info@thepodlets.io https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/thepodlets/issues Hosts: Carlisia Campos Josh Rosso Duffie Cooley Patrick Barker Key Points From This Episode: • Reasons that it is critical to start with APIs at the center. • Building out the user interface and how the steps in the process fit together. • Picking the way to approach your design based on the specifics of that job. • A discussion of what we consider to qualify as an API in the cloud-native space. • The benefit of public APIs and more transparent understanding. • Comparing the declarative nature of Kubernetes with more imperative models. • Creating and accepting pods, querying APIs and the cycle of Kubernetes. • The huge impact of the declarative model and correlation to other steps forward. • The power of the list and watch pattern in Kubernetes. • Discipline and making sure things are not misplaced with monoliths.• How micro-services goes a long way to eradicate some of the confusion that arises in monoliths. • Counteracting issues that arise out of a company's own architecture. • The care that is needed as soon as there is any networking between services. • Considering the handling of an API's lifecycle through its changes. • Independently deploying outside of the monolith model and the dangers to a system.• Making a service a consumer of a centralized API and flipping the model. Quotes: “Whether that contract is represented by an API or whether that contract is represented by a data model, it’s critical that you have some way of actually defining exactly what that is.” — @mauilion [0:05:27] “When you just look at the data model and the concepts, you focus on those first, you have a tendency to decompose the problem.” — @pbarkerco [0:05:48] “It takes a lot of discipline to really build an API first and to focus on those pieces first. It’s so tempting to go right to the UI. Because you get these immediate results.” — @pbarkerco [0:06:57] “What I’m saying is, you shouldn’t do one just because you don’t know how to do the others, you should really look into what will serve you better.” — @carlisia [0:07:19] Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: The Podlets on Twitter — https://twitter.com/thepodlets Nicera — https://www.nicera.co.jp/ Swagger — https://swagger.io/tools/swagger-ui/ Jeff Bezos — https://www.forbes.com/profile/jeff-bezos/ AWS — https://aws.amazon.com/ Kubernetes — https://kubernetes.io/ Go Language — https://golang.org/ Hacker Noon — https://hackernoon.com/ Kafka — https://kafka.apache.org/ etcd — https://etcd.io/ Conway’s Law — https://medium.com/better-practices/how-to-dissolve-communication-barriers-in-your-api-development-organization-3347179b4ecc Java — https://www.java.com/ Transcript: EPISODE 03 [INTRODUCTION] [0:00:08.7] ANNOUNCER: Welcome to The Podlets Podcast, a weekly show that explores Cloud Native one buzzword at a time. Each week, experts in the field will discuss and contrast distributed systems concepts, practices, tradeoffs and lessons learned to help you on your cloud native journey. This space moves fast and we shouldn’t reinvent the wheel. If you’re an engineer, operator or technically minded decision maker, this podcast is for you. [EPISODE] [0:00:41.2] D: Good afternoon everybody, my name is Duffy and I’m back with you this week. We also have Josh and Carlisia and a new member of our cast, Patrick Barker. [0:00:49.4] PB: Hey, I’m Patrick, I’m an upstream contributor to Kubernetes. I do a lot of stuff around auditing. [0:00:54.7] CC: Glad to be here. What are we going to talk about today? [0:00:57.5] D: This week, we’re going to talk about some of the building blocks of a cloud native application. This week we’re going to kind of focus on contracts and how API’s kind of help us and why they’re important to cloud native ecosystem. Usually, with these episodes, we start talking about the problem first and then we kind of dig into why this particular solution, something like a contract or an API is important. And so, to kind of kick that of, let’s talk about maybe this idea of API-first development and why that’s important. I know that Josh and Patrick both and Carlisia have all done some very interesting work in this space as far as developing your applications with that kind of a model in mind. Let’s open the floor. [0:01:34.1] PB: It’s critical to build API-centric. When you don’t build API-centric, most commonly, you’ll see a cross ecosystem building UI centric, it’s very tempting to do this sort of thing because UI’s are visually enticing and they’re kind of eye candy. But when you don’t go to API-centric and you go that direction, you kind of miss the majority of use cases down the line which are often around an SCK, just ended up being more often than not the flows that are the most useful to people but they’re kind of hard to see it to be getting. I think going and saying we’re building a product API-first is really saying, we understand that this is going to happen in the future and we’re making this a principle early, we’re going to enforce these patterns early, so that we develop a complete product that could be used in many fashions. [0:02:19.6] J: I’ve seen some of that in the past as well working for a company called Nicera, which is a network virtualization company. We really focused on providing an API that would be between you and your network infrastructure and I remember that being really critical that we define effectively what would be the entire public API for that product out in front and then later on, we figured out what obviously to learn this semantics of that sort, to be able to build a mental model around what that API might be, that’s where the UI piece comes in. That was an interesting experiment and like, we ended up actually kind of creating what was the kind of creating what was kind of the – an early version of the Swagger UI in which you basically had a UI that would allow you to explore and introspect and play with, all of those different API objects but it wasn’t a UI in the sense that you know, it had like a constrained user story that was trying to be defined, that was my first experience where I was working with a product that had an API-first model. [0:03:17.0] CC: I had to warm up my brain, I think about why do we build API’s to begin with before I could think why API-first is of a benefit and where the benefits are. And I actually looked up something today and it’s this Jeff Bezos mandate, I had seen this before, right? I mean, why do we view the API’s? API what you’re talking about is data transfer, right? Taking data from over here and sending it over there or you’re making that available so somebody can fetch it. It’s communication. Why do we build API? To make it easier to do that so you can automate, you can expose it, you can gate it with some security, right? Authentication, all of those things and with every increasing amount of data, this becomes more and more relevant and I think when Patrick was saying, when you do it API first, you’re absolutely focusing on making it all of those characteristics a priority, making that work well. If you want to make it pretty, okay, you can take that data in. Transforming some other way to make your presentation pretty, to display on the mobile device or whatever. [0:04:26.4] PB: Yeah, I think another thing with inserting the API design upfront in the software development lifecycle, at least in my experience has been – it allows you to sort of gather feedback from who your consumers will be early on before you worry about the intricacies of all the implementation details, right? I guess with Nicera’s instant stuff, I wonder when you all made that contract, were you pushing out a Swagger UI or just general API documentation before you had actually implemented the underlying pieces or did that all happen together? [0:04:58.1] D: With an API-first, we didn’t build out the UI until after the fact so even to the point where we would define a new object in that API, like a distributed logical router for example. We would actually define that API first and we would have test plants for it and all of that stuff and t hen we would surface it in the UI part of it and that’s a great point. I will say that it is probably to your benefit in the long run to define what all of the things that you’re going to be concerned with are out front. And if you can do that tin a contractual basis, whether that contract is represented by an API or whether that contract is represented by a data model, it’s critical that you have some way of actually defining exactly what that is so that you can also support things like versioning and being able to actually modify that contract as you move forward. [0:05:45.0] PB: I think another important piece here, too, is when you just look at the data model and the concepts, you focus on those first, you have a tendency to more decompose the problem, right? You start to look at things and you break it down better into individual pieces that combine better and you end up with more use cases and you end up with a more useable API. [0:06:03.2] D: That’s a good point. Yeah, I think one of the key parts of this contract is kind of like what you’re trying to solve and it’s always important, you know? I think that, when I talk about API-first development, it is totally kind of in line with that, you have to kind of think about what all the use cases are and if you’re trying to develop a contract that might satisfy multiple use cases, then you get this great benefit of thinking of it as you can kind of collapse a lot of the functionality down into a more composable API, rather than having to solve each individual use cases and kind of a myopic way. [0:06:34.5] CC: Yeah, it’s the concept of reusability, having the ability of making things composable, reusable. [0:06:40.7] D: I think we probably all seen UI’s that gets stuck in exactly that pattern, to Patrick’s point. They try to solve the user story for the UI and then on the backend, you’re like, why do we have two different data models for the same object, it doesn’t make sense. We have definitely seen that before. [0:06:57.2] PB: Yeah, I’ve seen that more times than not, it takes a lot of discipline to really build a UI or an API, you know, first to focus on those pieces first – it’s so tempting to go right to the UI because you get these immediate results and everyone’s like – you really need to bring that back, it takes discipline to focus on the concepts first but it’s just so important to do. [0:07:19.5] CC: I guess it really depends on what you are doing too. I can see all kinds of benefits for any kind of approach. But I guess, one thing to highlight is that different ways of doing it, you can do a UI-first, presentation first, you can do an API-first and you can do a model-first so those are three different ways to approach the design and then you have to think well, what I’m saying is, you shouldn’t do one just because you don’t know how to do the others, you should really look into what will serve you better. [0:07:49.4] J: Yeah, with a lot of this talk about API’s and contracts, obviously in software, there’s many levels of contracts we potentially work on, right? There’s the higher level, potential UI stuff and sometimes there’s a lower level pieces with code. Perhaps if you all think it’s a good idea, we could start with talking about what we consider to be an API in the cloud native space and what we’re referring to. A lot of the API’s we’ve described so far, if I heard everyone correctly, they sounded like they were more so API, as describing perhaps a web service of sorts, is that fair? [0:08:18.8] PB: That’s an interesting point to bring up. I’m definitely describing the consumption model of a particular service. I’m referring to that contract as an infrastructure guy, I want to be able to consume an API that will allow me to model or create infrastructure. I’m thinking of it from that perspective. If AWS didn’t have an API, I probably wouldn’t have adopted it, like the UI is not enough to do this job, either, like I need something that I could tie to better abstractions, things like terraform and stuff like that. I’m definitely kind of picturing it from that perspective. But I will add one other interesting point to this which is that in some cases, to Josh’s point, these things are broken up into public and private API’s, that might be kind of interesting to dig into. Why you would model it that way. There are certainly different interactions between composed services that you’re going to have to solve for. It’s an interesting point. [0:09:10.9] CC: Let’s hold that thought for a second. We are acknowledging that there are public and private API’s and we could talk about why their services work there. Other flavors of API’s also, you can have for example, a web service type of API and you can have a command line API, right? You can see a line on top of a web service API which is the crazy like, come to mind, Kubernetes but they have different shapes and different flavors even though they are accessing pretty much the same functionality. You know, of course, they have different purposes and you have to see a light and another one, yet, is the library so in this case, you see the calls to library which calls the web service API but like Duffy is saying, it’s critical sometimes to be able to have this different entry points because each one has its different advantages like a lot of times, it’s way faster to do things on the command line than it is to be a UI interface on the web that would access that web API which basically, you do want to have. Either your Y interface or CLA interface for that. [0:10:21.5] PB: What’s interesting about Kubernetes too and what I think they kind of introduced and someone could correct me if I’m wrong but is this kid of concept of a core generative type and in Kubernetes, it ends up being this [inaudible]. From the [inaudible], you’re generating out the web API and the CLI and the SCK and they all just come from this one place, it’s all code gen out of that. Kubernetes is really the first place I’ve seen do that but it’s really impressive model because you end up with this nice congruence across all your interfaces. It just makes the product really rockable, you can understand the concepts better because everywhere you go, you end up with the same things and you’re interacting with them in the same way. [0:11:00.3] D: Which is kind of the defining of type interface that Kubernetes relates to, right? [0:11:04.6] PB: Obviously, Kubernetes is incredibly declarative and we could talk a bit about declarative versus imperative, almost entirely declarative. You end up with kind of a nice, neat clear model which goes out to YAML and you end up a pretty clean interface. [0:11:19.7] D: If we’re going to talk about just the API as it could be consumed by other things. I think we’re kind of talking a little bit about the forward facing API, this is one of those things that I think Kubernetes does differently than pretty much any other model that I’ve seen. In Kubernetes, there are no hidden API’s, there’s not private API. Everything is exposed all the time which is fascinating. Because it means that the contract has to be solid for every consumer, not just the ones that are public but also anything that’s built on the back end of Kubernetes, the Kublet, controller manager, all of these pieces are going to be accessing the very same API that the user does. I’ve never seen another application built this way. In most applications, what I see is actually that they might define an API between particular services that you might have a contract between those particular services. Because this is literally — to Carlisia’s point, in most of the models that I’ve seen API’s are contract written, this is about how do I get data or consume data or interact with data, between two services and so there might be a contract between that service and all of its consumers, rather than between the course or within all of the consumers. [0:12:21.7] D: Like you said, Kubernetes is the first thing I’ve seen that does that. I’m pulling an API right now, there’s a strong push of internal API’s for it. But we’re building on top a Kubernetes product and it’s so interesting how they’ve been able to do that, where literally every API is public and it works well, there really aren't issues with it and I think it actually creates a better understanding of the underlying system and more people can probably contribute because of that. [0:12:45.8] J: On that front, I hope this is a good segue but I think it would be really interesting to talk about that point you made Patrick, around declarative versus imperative and how the API we’re discussing right now with Kubernetes in particular, it’s almost entirely declarative. Could you maybe expand on that a bit and compare the two? [0:13:00.8] PB: It’s interesting thing that Kubernetes has really brought to the forefront – I don’t know if there’d be another notable declarative API be terraform. This notion of you just declare state within a file and in some capacity, you just apply that up to a server and then that state is acted on by a controller and it brings us straight to fruition. I mean, that’s almost indicative of Kubernetes at this point I think. It’s so ingrained into the product and it’s one of the first things to kind of do that and that it’s almost what you think of when you think of Kubernetes. And with the advent of CRD’s and what not, that’s now, they want to be extended out to really in the use case you would have, that would fit this declarative pattern of just declaring to say which it turns out there’s a ton of use cases and that’s incredibly useful. Now, they’re kind of looking at, in core Kubernetes, could we add imperative functionality on top of the declarative resources, which is interesting too. They’re looking at that for V2 now because there are limitations, there are some things that just do fit in to declarative pattern perfectly that would fit just the standard rest. You end up some weird edges there. As they’re going towards V2, they’re starting to look at could we mix imperative and declarative, which is and even maybe more interesting idea if you could do that right. [0:14:09.3] CC: In the Kubernetes world, what would that look like? [0:14:11.3] PB: Say you have an object that just represents something like on FOO, you have a YAML file and you're declaring FOO to be some sort of thing, you could apply that file and then now that state exist within the system and things noticed that that state of change that they’re acting on that state, there are times when you might want that FOO to have another action. Besides just applying states, you may want it to have some sort of capability on top of the point, let’s say, they’re quite a few use cases that come in where that turns into a thing. It’s something to explore, it’s a bit of a Pandora’s box if you will because where does that end. Kubernetes is kind of nice that it does enforce constraints at this core level and it produces these really kind of deep patterns within the system that people will find kind of easy to understand at least at a high level. Granted, you go deep into it, it gets highly complex but enforcing like name spaces as this concept of just a flat name space with declarative resources within it and then declarative resources themselves just being confined to the standard rest verbs, is a model that people I think understand well. I think this is part of the success for Kubernetes is just that people could get their hands around that model. It’s also just incredibly useful. [0:15:23.7] D: Another way to think about this is like, you probably seen articles out there that kind of describe the RESTful model and talking about whether REST can be transactional. Let’s talk a little bit about what that means. I know the implementation of an API pattern or an interface pattern might be. That the client sends information to the server and that the server locks that client connection until it’s able to return the result, whatever that result is. Think of this, in some ways, this is very much like a database, right? As a client of a database, I want to insert a row into a database, the database will lock that row, it will lock my connection, it will insert that row and it will return success and in this way, it’s synchronous, right? It’s not trying to just accept the change, it just wants to make sure that it returns to a persisted that change to the database before, letting go of the connection. This pattern is probably one of the most common patterns in interfaces in the world like it is way super common. But it’s very different than the restful pattern or some of the implementations of a restful pattern. In which what we say, especially in this declarative model, right? In a declarative model, the contract is basically, I’m going to describe a thing and you're going to tell me when you understand the thing I want to describe. It’s asynchronous. For example, if I were interacting with Kubernetes and I said, cube kettle create pod, I would provide the information necessary to define that pod declaratively and I would get back from the API server 200 okay, pod has been accepted. It doesn’t mean to it's been created. It means it’s been accepted as an object and persisted to disk. Now, to understand from a declarative perspective, where I am in the life cycle of managing that pod object, I have to query that API again. Hey, this pod that I ask you to make, are you done making it and how does this work and where are you in that cycle of creating that thing? This is where I like within Kubernetes, we have the idea of a speck which defines all of the bits that are declaratively described and we have the idea of a status which describes what we’ve been up to around that declarative object and whether we’ve actually successfully created it or not. I would argue that from a cloud native perspective that declarative model is critical to our success. Because it allows us to scale and it allows us to provide an asynchronous API around those objects that we’re trying to interact with and it really changes the game as far as like, how we go about implementing those inputs. [0:17:47.2] CC: This is so interesting, it was definitely a mind bender for me when I started developing against Kubernetes. Because what do you mean you’ve returned the 200 okay, and the thing is not created yet. When does it get created? It’s not hard to understand but I was so not used to that model. I think it gives us a lot of control. So it is very interesting that way and I think you might be right, Duffy, that it might be critical to the success of native apps because it is always like the way I am thinking about it right now just having heard you is almost like with all the models, let’s say you are working with a database in that transactional system. The data has be inserted and that system decides to retry or not once the transaction is complete as we get a result back. With a Kubernetes model or cloud native model, I don’t know what, which is both a proper things to say, the control is with us. We send the request, Kubernetes is going to do its thing, which allows us to move on too, which is great, right? Then I can check for the result, when I want to check and then I can decide what to do with the results when I want to do anything with it if it all, I think it gives us a lot more control as developers. [0:19:04.2] D: Agreed. And I think another thing that has stuck in my head around this model whether it would be declared over imperative is that I think that Go Lang itself has actually really enabled us to adopt that asynchronous model around things that threads are first class, right? You can build a channel to handle each individual request, that you are not in this world where all transactions have to stop until this one is complete and then we’ll take the next one out of queue and do that one. We're no longer in that kind of a queue model, we can actually handle these things in parallel quite a bit more. It makes you think differently when you are developing software. [0:19:35.9] J: It’s scary too that you can check this stuff into a repo. The advent of Git Ops is almost parallel to the advent of Kubernetes and Terra Form and that you can now have this state that is source controlled and then you just apply it to the system and it understands what to do with it and how to put all of the pieces together that you gave it, which is a super powerful model. [0:19:54.7] D: There is a point to that whole asynchronous model. It is like the idea of the API that has a declarative or an imperative model and this is an idea and distributed system that is [inaudible]. It is like edge triggering or level triggering but definitely recommend looking up this idea. There is a great article on it on Hack Noon and what they highlight is that the pure abstract perspective there is probably no difference between edge and level triggering. But when you get down to the details especially with distributed systems or cloud native architectures, you have to take into account the fact that there is a whole bunch of disruption between your services pretty much all the time and this is the challenge of distributed systems in general, when you are defining a bunch of unique individual systems that need to interact and they are going to rely on an unreliable network and they are going to rely on unreliable DNS. And they’re going to rely on all kinds of things that are going to jump in the way of between these communication models. And the question becomes how do you build a system that can be resilient to those interruptions. The asynchronous model absolutely puts you in that place, where if you are in that situation wherein you say, “Create me a pod.” And that pod object is persisted and now you can have something else to do the work that will reconcile that declared state with the actual state until it works. It will just keep trying and trying and trying until it works. In other models, you basically say, “Okay, well what work do I have to do right now and I have to focus on doing this work until it stops.” What happens if the process itself dies? What happens if any of the interruptions that we talk about happen? Another good example of this is the Kafka model versus something like a watch on etcd, right? In Kafka, you have these events that you are watching for. And if you weren’t paying attention when that event went by, you didn’t get that event. It is not still there. It is gone now whereas like with etcd and models like that, what you are saying is I need to reconcile my expectancy of the world with what the desired thing is. And so I am no longer looking for events. I am looking for a list of work that I have to reconcile to, which is a very different model for these sorts of things. [0:21:47.9] J: In Kubernetes, it becomes the informer pattern. If you all don’t know, which is basically at the core of the informer is just this concepts of list and watch where you are just watching for changes but every so often you list as well in case you missed something. I would argue that that pattern is so much more powerful than the Kafka model you’re just going to skin as well because like you mentioned, if you missed an event in Kafka somehow, someway is very difficult to reconcile that state. Like you mentioned, your entire system can go down in a level set system. You bring it back up and because it is level set, everything just figures itself out, which is a lot nicer than your entire system going down in an edge-based system and trying to figure out how to put everything back together yourself, which is not a fun time, if you have ever done it. [0:22:33.2] D: These are some patterns in the contracts that we see in the cloud native ecosystem and so it is really interesting to talk about them. Did you have another point Josh around API’s and stuff? [0:22:40.8] J: No, not in particular. [0:22:42.2] D: So I guess we give into like what some of the forms of these API’s to talk about. We could talk about RESTful API’s versus to TIPC-based API’s or maybe even just interfaces back and forth between modular code and how that helped you architect things. One of the things I’ve had conversations with people around is we spend a lot of our time conditioning our audience when in cloud native architecture to the idea that monliths are bad, bad, bad and they should never do them. And that is not necessarily true, right? And I think it is definitely worth talking through like why we have these different opinions and what they mean. When I have that conversation with customers, frequently a monolith makes sense because as long as you’re able to build modularity into it and you are being really clear about the interfaces back and forth between those functions with the idea that if you have to actually scale traffic to or from this monolith. If the function that you are writing needs to be effectively externalized in such a way that can handle an amount of work that will surpass what the entire monolith can handle. As long as you are really clear about the contract that you are defining between those functions then later on, when it comes to a time to externalize those functions and embrace kind of a more microservices based model mainly due to traffic reload or any of the other concerns that kind of drive you toward a cloud native architecture, I think you are in a better spot and this is definitely one of the points of the contract piece that I wanted to raise up. [0:24:05.0] CC: I wonder though how hard it is for people to keep that in mind and follow that intention. If you have to break things into micro services because you have bottlenecks in your monolith and maybe have to redo the whole thing, once you have the micro services, you have gone through the exercise of deciding, you know this goes here, these goes there and once you have the separate modules it is clear where they should go. But when you have a monolith it is so easy to put things in a place where they shouldn’t be. It takes so much discipline and if you are working on a team that is greater than two, I don’t know. [0:24:44.3] PB: There are certain languages that lend themselves to these things like when you are writing Java services or there are things where it is easy to — when writing even quickly, rapidly prototyping an application that has multiple functions to be careful about those interfaces that you are writing, like Go because it is a strongly type language kind of forces you into this, right? There are some other languages that are out that make it difficult to be sloppy about those interfaces. And I think that is inherently a good thing. But to your point like you are looking at some of the larger monoliths that are out there. It is very easy to fall into these patterns where instead of an asynchronous API or an asynchronous interface, you have just a native interface and you are a asynchronous interface in which you expect that I would be able to call this functional and put something in there. I will get the result back and that is a pattern for monoliths. Like that is how we do it in monoliths. [0:25:31.8] CC: Because you say in there also made me think of the Conway’s Law because when we separate these into micro services and I am not saying micro services is right for everything for every team and every company. But I am just saying if you are going through that exercise of separating things because you have bottlenecks then maybe in the future you have to put them elsewhere. Externalize them like you said. If you think if the Conway’s Law if you have a big team, everybody working on that same monolith that is when things are in depth in the place that they shouldn’t be. The point of micro services is not just to technically separate things but to allow people to work separately and that inter-team communication is going to be reflected in the software that they are creating but because they are forced to communicate and hopefully they do it well that those micro services should be well-designed but if you have a monolith and everyone working on the same project, it gets more confusing. [0:26:31.4] D: Conway’s Law as an overview is basically that an organization will build software and laid out similar to the way the thought musician itself is architected. So if everybody in the entire company is working on one thing and they are really focused on doing that one thing, you’d better build a monolith. If you have these groups that are disparate and are really focused on some subset of work and need to communicate with each other to do that thing then you are going to build something more similar or maybe more capable as a micro service. That is a great point. So actually one of the things about [inaudible] that I found so fascinating with it, it would be a 100 people and we were everywhere. So communication became a problem that absolutely had to be solved or we wouldn’t be able to move forward as a team. [0:27:09.5] J: An observation that I had in my past life helping folks, breaking apart Java monoliths like you said Duffy, assume they had really good interfaces and contracts right? And that made it a lot easier to find the breaking points for their API’s to pull those API’s out into a different type of API. They went from this programmatic API, that was in the JBM where things were just intercommunicating to an API that was based on a web service. And an interesting observation I oftentimes found was that people didn’t realize that in removing complexity from within the app to the network space that oftentimes caused a lot of issues and I am not trying to down API’s because obviously we are trying to talk about the benefits of them but it is an interesting balancing act. Oftentimes when you are working with how to decouple a monolith, I feel like you actually can go too far with it. It can cause some serious issues. [0:27:57.4] D: I completely agree with that. That is where I wanted to go with the idea of why we say that building a monolith is bad and like with the challenges of breaking those monoliths apart later. But you are absolutely right. When you are going to introduce the wild chaos that is a network between your services, are you going to externalize functions and which means that you have to care a lot more about where you store a state because that state is no longer shared across all of the things. It means that you have to be really super careful about how you are modeling that. If you get to the point where this software that you built that is a monolith that is wildly successful and all of its consumers are networked based, you are going to have to come around on that point of contracts. Another thing that we haven’t really talked on so much is like we all agree that maybe like an API for say the consumer model is important. We have talked a little bit about whether private API’s or public API’s make sense. We described one of the whacky things that Kubernetes does, which is that there are no private API’s. It is all totally exposed all the time. I am sure that all of us have seen way more examples of things that do have a private API mainly because perhaps the services are trained. Service A always fact to service B. Service B has an API that it may be a private API. You are never going to expose to your external customers only to service A or to consumers of that internal API. One of the other things that we should talk about is when you are starting to think about these contracts. One of the biggest and most important bits is how you handle the lifecycle of those API’s, as they change right? Like I say add new features or functionality or as I deprecate old features and functionality, what are my concerns as it relates to this contract. [0:29:33.5] CC: Tell me and take my money. [0:29:37.6] D: I wish there was like a perfect answer. But I am pretty convinced that there are no perfect answers. [0:29:42.0] J: I spent a lot of time in the space recently and I have researched it for like a month or so and honestly, there are no perfect answers to try to version an API. Every single on of them has horrible potential consequences to it. The approach Kubernetes took is API evolution, where basically all versions of the API have to be backwards compatible and they basically all translate to what is an internal type in Kubernetes and everything has to be translatable back to that. This is nice for reasons. It is also very difficult to deal with at times because if you add things to an API, you can’t really every remove them without a massive amount of deprecation effort basically moderating the usage of that API specifically and then somehow deprecating it. It is incredibly challenging. [0:30:31.4] PB: I think it is 1-16 in which they finally turn off a lot of the deprecated API’s that Kubernetes had. So a lot of this stuff that has been moved for some number of versions off to different spaces for example deployments used to be extensions and now they are in apps. They have a lot of these things. Some of the older API’s are going to be turned off by default in 1-16 and I am really interested to see how this plays out you know from kind of a chaos level perspective. But yeah you’re right, it is tough. Having that backwards compatibility definitely means that the contract is still viable for your customers regardless of how old their client side looks like but this is kind of a fingernail problem, right? You are going to be in a situation where you are going to be holding those translations to that stored object for how many generations before you are able to finally get rid of some of those old API’s that you’ve have obviously moved on from. [0:31:19.6] CC: Deprecating an end point is not reviewed at all and ideally like better with, you would be able to monitor the usage of the end point and see as you intend deprecating is the usage is going lower and if there is anything you can do to accelerate that, which actually made me think of a question I have for you guys because I don’t know the answer to this. Do we have access to the end points usage, the consumption rate of Kubernetes end points by any of the cloud service providers? It would be nice if we did. [0:31:54.9] D: Yeah, there would be no way for us to get that information right? The thing about Kubernetes is something that you are going to run on your own infrastructure and there is no phone home thing like that. [0:32:03.9] CC: Yeah but the cost providers could do that and provide us a nice service to the community. [0:32:09.5] D: They could that is a very good point. [0:32:11.3] PB: [inaudible] JKE, it could expose some of the statistics around those API end points. [0:32:16.2] J: I think the model right now is they just ping the community and say they are deprecating it and if a bunch of people scream, they don’t. I mean that is the only way to really know right now. [0:32:27.7] CC: The squeaky wheels get the grease kind of thing. [0:32:29.4] J: Yeah. [0:32:30.0] D: I mean that is how it turns out. [0:32:31.4] J: In regarding versioning, taking out of Kubernetes for a second, I also think this is one of the challenges with micro service architectures, right? Because now you have the ability to independently deploy a service outside of the whole monolith and if you happen to break something that cracks contractually you said you would and people just didn’t pay attention or you accidentally broke it not knowing, it can cause a lot of rift in a system. So versioning becomes a new concern because you are no longer deploying a massive system. You are deploying bits of it and perhaps versioning them and releasing them at different times. So again, it is that added complexity. [0:33:03.1] CC: And then you have this set of versions talk to this set of versions. Now you have a matrix and it is very complicated. [0:33:08.7] PB: Yeah and you do somewhat have a choice. You can’t have each service independently versioned or you could go with global versioning, where everything within V1 could talk to everything else than V1. But it's an interesting point around breakage because tools like GRPC kind of enforce you to where you cannot break the API, through just how the framework itself is built and that’s why you see GRPC in a lot of places where you see micro services just because it helps get the system stable. [0:33:33.1] D: Yeah and I will call back to that one point again, which I think is actually one of Josh’s points. If you are going to build multiple services and you are building an API between them then that means the communication path might be service A to service B and service B to service A. You are going to build this crazy mesh in which you have to define an API in each of these points to allow for that consumption or that interaction data. And one of the big takeaways for me in studying the cloud native ecosystem is that if you could define that API and that declarative state as a central model to all of your services then you can flip this model on its head instead of actually trying to define an API between in front of a service. You can make that service a consumer of a centralized API and now you have one contract to right and one contract to standby and all of those things that are going to do work are going to pull down from that central API. And do the work and put back into that central API the results, meaning that you are flipping this model on its head. You are no longer locking until service B can return the result to you. You are saying, “Service B here is a declarative state that I want you to accomplish and when you are done accomplishing it, let me know and I will come back for the results,” right? And you could let me know in an event stream. You can let me know by updating a status object that I am monitoring. There’s lots of different ways for you to let me know that service B is done doing the work but it really makes you think about the architecture of these distributed systems. It is really one of the big highlights for me personally when I look at the way that Kubernetes was architected. Because there are no private API’s. Everything talks to the API server. Everything that is doing work regardless of what data it’s manipulating but it is changing or modifying. It has to adhere to that central contract. [0:35:18.5] J: And that is an interesting point you brought up is that Kubernetes in a way is almost a monolith, in that everything passes through the API server, all the data leaves in this central place but you still have those distributed nature too, with the controllers. It is almost a mix of the patterns in some ways. [0:35:35.8] D: Yeah, I mean thanks for the discussion everybody that was a tremendous talk on contracts and API’s. I hope everybody got some real value out of it. And this is Duffy signing off. I will see you next week. [0:35:44.8] CC: This is great, thank you. [0:35:46.5] J: Cheers, thanks. [0:35:47.8] CC: Bye. [END OF INTERVIEW] [0:35:49.2] ANNOUNCER: Thank you for listening to The Podlets Cloud Native Podcast. Find us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ThePodlets and on the https://thepodlets.io website where you will find transcripts and show notes. We’ll be back next week. Stay tuned by subscribing. [END]See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In today’s episode of the 40 Minute Mentor, I’m joined by my first guest from a tech Unicorn, as I speak with Fred Jones, Board Director and Head of New Mobility for Uber UK and Ireland. Uber need no introduction, they’re one of the world’s biggest tech businesses and have grown from a small scale start up in 2009 to one of the world’s most valuable companies, with a market cap of over $56 billion. Having started his career on Consulting, Fred joined Uber in 2015 and climbed rapidly through the company, to where he is today. For those of you who are considering making this move yourselves, Fred’s journey from Consulting into tech is a really interesting one and something we discuss in detail in today’s show. In addition to his role at Uber, Fred advises a number of start-up and scale up businesses, including ourselves here at JBM, where he provides invaluable advice to myself and the team as part of our advisory board. We cover some really interesting topics in this interview including: - How Fred made the move from Consulting into tech and his advice to others thinking of doing the same. - What it’s like to work at one of the world’s biggest tech unicorns and why feedback is such an important part of Uber’s culture. - And Fred’s advice to aspiring leaders in tech and why he sees optimism is a key characteristic that all aspiring leaders should foster. If you want to find out more about Fred you can check out his LinkedIn profile here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/fred-jones-2b25875/?originalSubdomain=uk If you want to find out more about Uber you can check out their website - https://www.uber.com We're always keen to get feedback so if you have any thoughts once you’ve listened to this interview just drop me an email at james@jbmc.co.uk

Today’s episode is a special bonus episode which was recorded live at our JBM drinks event last month. We run these events for a mix of clients and candidates who have helped us spread the word about JBM over the years, and without whom we wouldn’t be where we are today. The goal for these evenings is to bring together a mix of talented people from diverse backgrounds to get to know each other better, make new connections and to learn from some of the best and most inspiring mentors in our network. Our special guest and your 40 Minute Mentor at this latest event was the brilliant former McKinsey Consultant Caroline Murphree, who is now the UK Director of Growth & Operations at Wealthsimple. Wealthsimple is an online investment manager that combines user-friendly digital tools and personal investment advice to make smart, automated investing available to everyone. They have over 100,000 clients globally, £2bn in assets under management and have raised over $250m Canadian Dollars to fund their impressive growth. I am pleased to say that I am one of those 100,000 clients having recently set up a Junior Isa for my daughter, Sienna and I am a big fan. Two of the questions that I get asked most often by candidates are “how do I move in to Consulting” and “how do I move in to Tech”. Having moved from Silicon Valley into Consulting and then from Consulting back to Tech, Caroline has experienced this first-hand and she shares her advice on exactly these questions in today’s interview. This conversation isn’t just focused on Caroline’s career advice though, we talk about the challenges that come with growing a rapidly scaling start up, the importance of culture and her advice for others looking to expand their business into international markets. We also touch upon her views on diversity in tech and what the industry can do to promote it as well as the key role that mentorship has helped play throughout Caroline’s career. Those who were there on the evening, the JBM team and I got a huge amount from this interview with Caroline. It was great to get the chance to speak with her and I’m really pleased to be able to share our conversation with you. As this was a live event our interview was followed by some questions from the live audience. Some of whom where a little further from the microphones than others so please excuse the fact that some of the questions at the end of this episode are a little quiet. I hope you will all really enjoy this extra special episode and learn lots from the great insights that Caroline shares! If you want to find out more about Caroline you can check out her LinkedIn profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-murphree-73247112/ If you want to find out more about Wealthsimple you can check out their website - https://www.wealthsimple.com We're always keen to get feedback so if you have any thoughts once you’ve listened to this interview just drop me an email at james@jbmc.co.uk

Today’s guest is the environmental entrepreneur, Kresse Wesling MBE, who is quite simply, one of the most inspirational people I’ve ever met. Kresse is the co-founder of the award-winning business Elvis and Kresse, who turn industrial waste into innovative, luxury products and return 50% of their profits to charities related to the waste that they use. It was a chance meeting with the London Fire Brigade in 2005 that gave Kresse the idea that ultimately become the business she runs today. At the time, the London Fire Brigade sent all of their decommissioned fire hose to landfill and Kresse thought that there had be a better way to reuse and recycle it. This led Kresse and her partner Elvis – hence the brand name – to launch Elvis & Kresse. Since founding the business Elvis and Kresse has gone from strength to strength. From their origins using reclaimed firehose they now work with 12 different waste streams, have several charitable partnerships and are involved with collaborations across industries. This includes a unique partnership with the Burberry Foundation to turn Burberry’s off cut leather into stunning bags and accessories. In recognition of the incredible work she has done, she was awarded an MBE and was named Cartier’s Women in Business Laureate in 2011. She has advised global brands, governments and recently sat on a judging panel with Will I Am from the Black Eyed Peas! In this episode we cover a range of fascinating topics including: Kresse’s childhood and why she decided to leave home at 16 to attend collage half way around the world in Hong Kong. How Elvis and Kresse started the business and the challenges that they had to overcome in their early years. Kresse’s philosophy on building a team and her approach to hiring great people. And the importance of the circular economy and why it is critical to your business’s long term success. It was a lucky encounter with her partner Elvis on a train back after a rugby match many years ago that led to me getting to know Kresse and hearing about their inspiring story and unique mission, played a big role in me setting up JBM almost 7 years ago. She was also the first person I asked to join our board of advisors and has been a brilliant confidante and mentor to me over the years. So if you’re thinking about launching your own business or want to know how you and your firm can achieve profitable growth that also helps the environment then you’re going to love this interview. If you want to find out more about Kresse you can check out her LinkedIn profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kresse-wesling-mbe-0933646/ If you want to find out more about Elvis and Kresse you can check out their website - https://www.elvisandkresse.com/ We're always keen to get feedback so if you have any thoughts once you’ve listened to this interview just drop me an email at james@jbmc.co.uk

In this episode Capt. Tim Wilson interviews Jacqui Bomar of JBM & Associates about her role in the creation and continued development of boat shows along the NC, SC and GA coasts. For more information on JBM & Associates visit : www.jbmshows.com For all your fishing news, tips and other resources visit: www.coastalcarolinafisherman.com

Neeta Gupta (festival co-director of Jaipur BookMark) in conversation with Lakshya Datta (founder of Launchora). Neeta talks about how she got into publishing, how Jaipur BookMark came out of the ZEE Jaipur Literature Festival, what collaborations and ideas have come out of JBM over the years, and how this year’s JBM - which will host over 100 speakers - was curated. Neeta Gupta is also the co-founder and publisher at Yatra Books, as well as the Joint Secretary of Bharatiya Anuvad Parishad and editor of their quarterly journal, Anuvad. JBM 2019 will take place alongside #ZEEJLF2019 at the Diggi Palace from 23 to 26 January. You can learn more about JBM and its 2019 programme at jaipurbookmark.org.

Yo WYAG listeners! Have you ever wondered how Katie J-Hubs and JBM became such tight lady friends? Find out today! Join us in an exploration about the roots of our sisterhood as we take a trip down memory lane to the place of our origin--Huntington, Indiana! We also analyze Justin Timberlake's complete disregard for the laws of gravity.Artwork by: Rachel Whitehurst Music credit: "Feeling Sunny" by Scott Holmes (www.scottholmesmusic.com)

Today's episode is a little different and I'm really excited to be sharing it with you. Instead of my normal interviews where I'm the one asking the questions, today's interview is taken from an event I attended last month, hosted by my good friend James Mitra at JBM Consulting. For those of you that don't know, JBM are an executive search firm that place top talent into high growth tech firms, fintechs and consultancies. They are also the talent partners to the Fintech focused Private equity firm Motive Partners which is where this event was held. When James told me who the speaker was going to be I said that we had to record it for the podcast and it certainly didn't disappoint. I'm a big believer that you can, and should, learn from the best. Regardless of their field. As you'll hear in today's interview, there are so many fantastic insights that are equally applicable to Consulting firms, and their clients, as there are to this guest's specific industry. For those of you listening to this outside of the UK, or for those of you in the UK who may have been living under a rock for the last 10 years, Moonpig are the UK's largest online card retailer with over 15 million cards sent through their online platform in 2017 alone. Iain was one of the early members of the Moonpig team and over his time as MD grew the business from a team of just 8 people, turning over £2,000,000 in to a team of over 160 turning over £60m a year. This phenomenal growth ultimately led to Moonpig being acquired by Photobox for £120m in 2011 James and Iain cover some really interesting topics in their conversation and the questions that follow including: Iain's journey to becoming the MD of Moonpig and the unorthodox approach he took to get there. The importance of using data when it comes to Marketing and how this helped Moonpig achieve it's rapid growth. How Iain and the team ensured they hired the best talent for the business and their unconventional approach for rewarding their team. The sale to Photobox and the steps they took from deciding to sell through to integrating the business with their new owners And the one I know many of you will want to know. How they decided on the name Moonpig and where the jingle came. It was great to meet Iain and I really enjoyed hearing his story and advice for those looking to grow their business as successfully as he did. This episode is brought to you by Create Engage the Digital Marketing agency for the disruptive Management Consultancy.

A belated Happy New Year to you! JBMcast six is a snippet of a podcast - I'm taking a less is more / little and often approach this year, having fallen of the radar *slightly* in 2017. Please enjoy these four poems from Clear Poetry, published in 2015. Thanks for listening and sharing! Wishing you all the best for 2018. JBM x http://www.jamesbrucemay.com/

Teaser NARRATOR Donuts, deodorant, buns and burgers. They're killing us -- and not just because of what they do to our bodies. No, it's because of what the soy, beef, and palm-oil that they're made of -- and they paper they're packaged in -- do to the environment. More specifically, it's because of the way way we get these commodities -- by chopping or degrading forests -- which is one reason that tropical forests now emit more greenhouse gasses than they absorb, according to a study published last month in the journal Science. But what if I told you we could end this by 2020 -- just two years from now? I'm not saying we can end all deforestation by 2020, but what if I told you we can purge deforestation from these four commodities -- the ones that drive most of the world's deforestation -- by ramping up ten activities that we're already engaged in -- and have been for decades: that these activities are time-tested, and they're lined up like dominoes, ready to be activated? It's like a giant, simmering pot ready to boil. Would you believe me? I hope so, because that's exactly what I'm saying, and it's not just me saying this. It's more than 250 economists, ecologists, and agronomists from around the world, and they're drawing on the experience of environmental NGOand small farming communities from Africa to Asia to Latin America -- as well as the big agribusinesses -- who are, quite frankly, the critical actors in all of this. Today we're looking at these ten activities, how they fit into 100 more that are getting a lot of attention these days -- as well as where they came from, why they work, and how you can learn more about them.   NARRATOR Earth. We broke it. We own it -- and nothing is as it was. Not the trees, not the seas - not the forests, farms, or fields -- and not the global economy that depends on all of these. But we can restore it. Make it better: greener, more resilient, more sustainable. But how? Technology? Geoengineering? Are we doomed to live on a... Bionic Planet? Or is Nature itself the answer? That's the question we address in every episode of Bionic Planet, a podcast of the Anthropocene -- the new epoch defined by man's impact on earth -- and nowhere is that impact more deeply felt than in the forests, farms, and fields that recycle our air and provide our food. Today we're looking at lists: two of them, to be specific. One involves 100 solutions that can not only slow climate change, but end it and even reverse it. The other involves ten activities that can accelerate a cluster of the big 100. In between our examination of these two lists, you're going to have to sit through a little history class -- because you won't understand where we're at or where we're going if you don't understand where we came from and how we got here. Act I NARRATOR I'm opening today's show with a book review of sorts -- a very short one like the ones that Sister Mary Ann used to ask us to deliver in her English class at Christ the King school in Chicago. It compares and contrasts two best-sellers related to Climate Change. One is called "Drawdown", and it's a recipe book of sorts... for saving the planet. I love this book. The other is called "This Changes Everything", and it's a mess. I hate it -- even though it's more entertaining than the first. What I love about Drawdown, which is edited by environmentalist and entrepreneur Paul Hawken, is that it focuses on concrete, doable ways of fixing the mess. Specifically, it summarizes 100 solutions that can not only slow climate change, but -- cumulatively -- end it and even reverse it. Of these 100, 80 already exist and are even being implemented, while 20 are listed as "coming attractions". He categorizes about a quarter of the solutions under either "food" or "land use", and they include things like green agriculture, forest protection, and indigenous peoples' land management -- all of which I cover in this podcast What I hate about "This Changes Everything" is that it's shrill, sloppy, and dismissive of workable solutions. Its basic story arc is this: "Gee, I just realized this climate stuff is serious, and so I spent a year or so investigating it, and I found that all of the so-called solutions out there only fix part of the problem... none of the fix the whole thing. We need something radical! A total reset of human nature! And I'm just the person to tell you how to do it, and it involves the post office." On the one hand, in writing the book, Naomi Klein sounded the alarm, which is great, and she even pointed out that we need to radically alter the way we run our economy... which is true... but then she dismisses anything that isn't a magic bullet like the ones that kills vampires... or is it warewolves? Anyway... and either way, she ends up floating a solution that's just as imaginary as those two creatures, while not just ignoring but actively dissing and dismissing solutions like the ones that Hawken highlights in his book  Now, I get the Daniel Burnham aspect of this -- he's the Chicago architect who said, and I quote, "Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood and probably themselves will not be realized." So, I can see why Klein -- and, in fact, most mainstream writers -- steer clear of wonky, tedious solutions. They're boring. But our job as reporters isn't just to entertain. It's to act as a kind of scout... going out into the wilderness, seeing what's happening there -- what the threats are, how to avoid them... and then reporting back in a way that clear and concise. I'm excited about Drawdown for two reasons: first, because it achieves this, and second, because it's become a best-seller -- and it should, because these wonky, tedious solutions aren't little. Each is massive in its own right, and Drawdown looks at 100 of them. What's more, the book's goal isn't just to slow climate change, but to actually end it and reverse it. If that doesn't stir your heart, I don't know what will -- and on that note, I'd to share with you the second half of that quote, which we almost never hear. "Make big plans," he says. "Aim high in hope and work, remembering that a noble, logical diagram once recorded will never die, but long after we are gone will be a living thing, asserting itself with ever-growing insistency. Remember that our sons and grandsons are going to do things that would stagger us. Let your watchword be order and your beacon beauty." Nothing there about being simple and pithy, and the emerging solutions to the climate challenge are not always simple, but they are noble, logical, orderly, and beautiful. The Paris Agreement, for example, is a masterwork of diplomacy -- a massive mosaic of thousands of smaller agreements that respect every country and culture on the planet. Likewise, the solutions I'll be examining today emerge from diverse sectors and societies, yet they all fit together like a jigsaw puzzle, and they're also integral to the success of the Paris Agreement. I'm focusing mostly on the corporate sector, because that's where we need to focus our attention if we're going to fix this mess. The ten solutions we'll be examining in the final segment come from Tropical Forest Alliance 2020. But what is Tropical Forest Alliance 2020, and how does it influence corporate activities?  Act 2 Marco Albani We're basically a platform for private-public collaboration NARRATOR That's Marco Albani who runs Tropical Forest Alliance 2020.  MARCO ALBANI Created by US government and CGF MUSIC: Zydeco NARRATOR We're going to be focusing on two organizations today, and the Consumer Goods Forum is one of them. It's a coalition of CEOs and top managers from more than 400 retailers, manufacturers, and service providers in 70 countries. It coalesced in 2009, but traces its origin to the aftermath of World War I, when French food merchants were beginning to engage in international commerce again, and needed to know that they were getting good stuff. But they soon learned that the "war to end all wars" achieved nothing of the kind, and it wasn't until 1953 that the International Committee of Food Chains was born. This was a commercial enterprise focused on making sure farmers in far-away places were delivering good food to merchants and shopkeepers closer to home, but the parameters of quality control gradually expanded to include labor conditions and environmental impact. By the 1990s, environmental pressure groups had forced the creation of certification standards for the sustainable production of palm oil and timber & pulp, while other industry groups emerged to promote general food safety. Then, in 2009, just as climate negotiators were gathering for year-end talks in Copenhagen, Denmark, three of these industry groups -- the Global Commerce Initiative, the Global CEO Forum, and the International Committee of Food Chains -- merged into the Consumer Goods Forum, which is dedicated to promoting fair labor and environmental practices among companies whose sales add up to $3.5 trillion per year. Now, I'm not so naive as to believe that these companies are all selfless and beneficent. In fact, I even think many of them are selfish and sociopathic, as legal scholar Joel Bakan maintains. But there are ways of changing that, and these multilateral organizations are one. In fact, research from the Forest Trends Supply Change initiative shows companies that belong to organizations like the Consumer Goods Forum not only make more environmental commitments than companies that don't, but they're also much better at reporting progress towards delivering on those commitments, which is why this matters: MARCO ALBANI 2010 GCF Resolution NARRATOR Beef, soy, palm oil, and pulp & paper. There they are again -- the big four commodities responsible for most of the world's deforestation, because farmers around the world are chopping forests to grow them. So it's a pretty big deal when 400 companies line up behind a specific pledge to end that.  But, of course, it doesn't end there. Just as the Kyoto Protocol showed us that government can't do this on its own, common sense tells us that the global, profit-driven corporate sector isn't going to fix our problems on its own, either, despite what free-market fundamentalists like to believe. We need government, we need NGOs, we need indigenous groups... we need them all working together. So, in 2012, the Consumer Goods Forum and the US government launched the group we're primarily focusing on today: Tropical Forest Alliance 2020 -- or TFA 2020 -- to get all these sectors working towards the goal of changing the way we produce the big four deforestation commodities, so that by the year 2020 we no longer chop forests to do so. MARCO ALBANI And since then grown... more than 400 partners... business, producers to consumers. MUSIC: zydeco? NARRATOR So, you've got the Consumer Goods Forum representing business, and you've got Tropical Forest Alliance 2020 -- or TFA 2020 -- representing all of these diverse interests. Then, in 2014, as climate negotiators were gearing up for the Lima talks, things get serious. UN General Secretary Ban Ki Moon holds a massive rally in New York designed to turbocharge TFA 2020's mission. The result is the New York Declaration on Forests, which is a pledge to cut the global rate of deforestation in half by 2020, and to end deforestation by 2030 while restoring hundreds of millions of acres of degraded land. The pledge is endorsed by 36 national governments,  20 sub-national governments -- meaning states and cities -- 15 indigenous organizations, 53 environmental NGOs, and 52 multinational corporations. The list of companies is interesting: it includes traditional good actors like Danone, Unilever, and Kellogg's -- but also companies with a reputation for doing the wrong thing, like Asia Pulp and Paper -- a longtime environmental pariah once known for grinding pristine forest into pulp. Dewi Bramono turn story around NARRATOR That's Dewi Bramono, Asia Pulp and Paper's Director of Sustainability and Stakeholder Engagement, who we'll hear from later in the show. Most of the audio in today's show comes from an event that Forest Trends hosted in September during New York Climate Week, and Dewi Bramono's presence in that room is proof that companies can change. The New York Declaration on Forests is a big deal, because you got all of these companies publicly committing to tackle deforestation, and the declaration isn't just a simple statement, but is actually 10 specific goals that -- like all of those 100 solutions in Drawdown -- feed on and reinforce each other. The challenge is holding these companies to their word. MUSIC: ends Now we come to 2015: you've got these two global networks and this very public commitment -- how do you turn this into action? In part by getting everyone on the same page, so the governments of the UK and Norway ramped up funding for TFA 2020, and the World Economic Forum essentially adopted it -- giving it a place to live in Switzerland. That same year, the organization I work for -- Forest Trends -- launched the Supply Change initiative -- that's Supply-Change.org -- to track not just corporate commitments, but the progress that companies report, and you may have noticed I use them as a resource quite a lot. Now we come to last year -- 2016. You've got all of these commitments and all of this transparency, and TFA 2020 needed to pull it all together so we could see how far we were from the goal. They asked a dozen leading NGOs to help out, and they put a research-oriented group called Climate Focus in charge. Then, at last year's climate talks in Marrakesh, they published two reports: one focused on progress towards all ten of the goals outlined in the New York Declaration on Forests, and one focused exclusively on Goal Number Two, which says that, by 2020, we will no longer be chopping forests to produce the big four deforestation commodities. MUSIC: End zydeco MARCO ALBANI Goal Two Assessment - 1 NARRATOR Specifically, it's a mixed bag. Using Supply Change data on almost 700 companies, they found less than half of the companies that had made commitments were actually disclosing progress -- although those that did report progress were usually on track to meet their goals. They also found huge variance from company to company -- meaning some great success stories, some shining examples, and a lot of lessons-learned.  MARCO ALBANI Goal Two Assessment - 2 NARRATOR It's crunch-time, and we need to very quickly harvest the lessons of the last eight years to see what works and what doesn't. Then we need to scale up what works, and do it fast. So Tropical Forest Alliance 2020 called in "Climate Focus". They're the research-oriented NGO that led the creation of the two earlier assessments. CHARLOTTE STRECK We started with the New York Declaration NARRATOR That's Charlotte Streck, who runs Climate Focus. CHARLOTTE STRECK Then we had a series of workshops... FADE OUT NARRATOR You get the picture. They didn't just pull this out of thin air, but instead they talked to more than 250 organizations, put their findings out for review, adjusted them, and finally presented them in New York. SOUND: fade charlotte back in MUSIC: pensive NARRATOR So, let's pause again to get our bearings. We started with 100 activities that can reverse climate change, and we dove into one of them: ending deforestation, which we realized is part of a cluster of activities related to land-use and agriculture. We in turn found that this cluster was broken into ten specific goals of its own, enshrined in the New York Declaration on Forests. Then we dove into one of those ten goals -- Goal Number Two, the most immediate one: purging deforestation from the big four commodities by the year 2020 -- and we found it's doable. And now, after diving down to this one goal... we're going to open things up again... to look at the ten priority areas that can help us achieve the goal of purging deforestation from these four key commodities in just two years, which will in turn help us achieve the other 9 goals in the New York Declaration on Forests, which will in turn help us achieve a few dozen of the 100 activities that will help us reverse climate change. MUSIC: END NARRATOR Before we move on, some key points. First: Charlotte Streck This is not a step-wise approach NARRATOR And also, if we do achieve the 2020 goal, the game isn't over.  , MARCO ALBANI Need to keep long-term MUSIC: ?? NARRATOR I'm about to unveil the ten priority areas, but first I have a question for you: do you like this show? If so, would you like more episodes -- maybe better produced to boot? With a second set of ears and more time for editing? You can make that possible by giving me a good rating on iTunes or wherever you access the show; you can tell friends about me. Or, best of all, you can become a patron at bionic-planet.com I've set the patronage page up so you can support me per episode, but with a monthly cap. So, if you think $5 per month is good for a five-episode month, you can pledge $1 per episode, but with a $5 monthly cap. That way, if I don't manage to generate five episodes in a month, you're not paying for something you didn't get, and if I go nuts and deliver 20 episodes one month, you won't get whacked, either. By the same token, you can offer $5 per episode... or 10 or 50 or whatever.  I'm sitting on a ton of material -- Interviews and audio I gathered as far back as June -- and I'm itching to share it with you in ways that make sense. But I've got a day job, and I've got to pay the bills, too, and I'm not even close to breaking even on the podcast. I like the idea of being listener supported, but am also open to big sponsors, advertisers, or investors to cover my costs, hire some help, and scale this up. The web site, again, is bionic-planet.com, or you can e-mail me at steve@bionic-planet.com MUSIC: end music Act 3 SOUND: drumroll NARRATOR And now, the moment you've all been waiting for. The ten priority areas for purging deforestation from the supply chains of the big four deforestation commodities by the year 2020. Beginning with  SOUND: gong CHARLOTTE STRECK point 1 NARRATOR So, what does this mean? I'll let Michael Jenkins explain it. He runs Forest Trends, which means he signs my checks... but I think the group does good work, too, which is why I work for them. Michael Jenkins Forest Trends Illegality Report 1 NARRATOR He means illegal conversion of forests to farms or fields. MICHAEL JENKINS Forest Trends Illegality Report 2 NARRATOR Let that sink in for a moment. In fact, let's hear it again. MICHAEL JENKINS Forest Trends Illegality Report echo NARRATOR So, while we do need better legal frameworks, we also need to enforce the laws already on the books -- as Brazil showed when it slashed deforestation 70 percent between 2004 and 2014. If you listened to Episode 20, you heard how good-acting companies can also support enforcement -- something Charlotte also alluded to. CHARLOTTE STRECK companies can help NARRATOR Companies that are good with the law can also boost their bottom line by building up trust with importers abroad -- as Asia Pulp and Paper is doing in Indonesia. DEWI BRAMONO legality NARRATOR It's the right thing to do -- and it certainly can't hurt their status with global buyers. SOUND: drumroll NARRATOR And that brings us to... SOUND: Gong CHARLOTTE STRECK 2- palm certificatin NARRATOR Palm oil is in everything from donuts to soap to after-shave. You probably use it but don't even know it. CHARLOTTE STRECK Palm Oil is one of the main drivers NARRATOR Remember we talked about certification on the start? Supply Change data shows that of the big four commodities, companies are making the most progress in reducing deforestation around two of them: palm oil and timber and pulp -- mostly because we started seeing certification of these back in the 1980s. Today, about 21 percent of palm oil is certified by the Round Table on Sustainable Palm Oil, or RSPO. The challenge is twofold: getting consumers to pay a premium for this, and extending certification to more forests. CHARLOTTE STRECK We don't have sufficient demand SOUND: drumroll NARRATOR Then comes the next priority SOUND: gong CHARLOTTE STRECK 3 beef intensification NARRATOR "Sustainable intensification of cattle grazing"... that basically means raising more cows on the same piece of land, so that you don't have to keep chopping forests to graze them.  CHARLOTTE STRECK Beef is responsible for more... NARRATOR In episode 7 of Bionic Planet, we saw how Kenyan farmers are using agroforestry to increase milk production -- they plant trees in among their crops to pull nitrogen from the air and infuse it into the soil, and they turn the leaves into silage for their cows. That's just one solution, and there are dozens of them. Ideally, we should all eat less beef, but for now we can reduce the amount of land used to raise the ones we do have. CHARLOTTE STRECK we know that we can SOUND: drumroll SOUND: gong NARRATOR Which brings us to... CHARLOTTE STRECK 4 palm and cocoa intensification NARRATOR Cocoa is not one of the big four, but it's a huge contributor -- and it's mostly produced by small farmers working in cooperatives. CHARLOTTE STRECK More than 30 percent of palm oil and 90 percent of cocoa NARRATOR The report shows that small palm-oil producers can increase their productivity 85 percent without chopping more trees. CHARLOTTE STRECK  These smallholders NARRATOR So, that gets us through three of the big four, plus cocoa -- or cacao, as the threes themselves are called. Ignacio Gavilan what about soy - 1 NARRATOR Yes -- what about soy? That, by the way, is Ignacio Gavilan, Director of Sustainability, for the Consumer Goods Forum. IGNACIO GAVILAN what about soy - 2 SOUND: drumroll NARRATOR And that brings us to... SOUND: gong   CHARLOTTE STRECK 5 sustainable soy NARRATOR Up until 2006, farmers across the Brazilian Amazon were chopping forest like mad to grow soy, but then something changed: Companies like McDonalds -- responding to pressure from groups like Greenpeace -- voluntarily stopped buying soy from Amazon farmers who chop trees to grow the stuff. The soy moratorium is just one example of a successful multilateral effort to fix the climate mess.  CHARLOTTE STRECK it is important NARRATOR Certification programs are ridiculously expensive and notoriously difficult to manage -- I mean, this is really complex stuff. A company like McDonalds buys beef from slaughterhouses like Marfrig or JBM, and those slaughterhouses buy from thousands of small farmers. To really do this right, we have to scale up  SOUND: drumroll NARRATOR And that's where the next priority area comes in SOUND: gong CHARLOTTE STRECK 6 - accelerating implementation of jurisdictional NARRATOR "jurisdictional" means governmental -- it can be federal, it can be state, it can be county, or even city. If you get an entire state like Sabah in Malaysia or California in the United States to make sure it's farmers are producing fruits and veggies in a sustainable way, companies can buy there without spending a fortune to certify each producer individually. CHARLOTTE STRECK we have screened 34 NARRATOR The state of Sabah, in Malaysia, for example, is working with several NGOs that have coalesced into an alliance called "Forever Sabah" Cynthia Ong jurisdictional 1 NARRATOR That's Cynthia Ong, who runs a group called "Land, Empowerment Animals, People" or LEAP. She's also one of Forever Sabah's co-executive directors. CYNTHIA ONG jurisdictional 2 NARRATOR Even big companies like Asia Pulp and Paper have realized they can't access certified material on a large scale one plantation at a time. DEWI BRAMONO landscape jurisdiction NARRATOR There are scores of efforts underway -- the Rainforest Alliance is also doing great work, which you can learn about if you listen to episode 23 -- that episode will have the raw audio from this event without me interjecting every few minutes. It's kind of long, but if this episode sparked your interest, I think you'll find the full event worth listen to. SOUND: drumroll NARRATOR But for now, we move on to... SOUND: Gong CHARLOTTE STRECK 7 - land security and land rights NARRATOR This is another one we've addressed here before: indigenous and traditional communities tend to have a strong connection to their land. Studies have shown they usually -- not always, of course, but usually -- maintain their forest and want to keep it, but their legal rights to the forests are often in limbo. That leaves them vulnerable to speculators, and also less willing to invest too much in the forest CHARLOTTE STRECK Uncertainty of land. NARRATOR Another thing to remember: people in developing countries buy stuff, too SOUND: drumroll NARRATOR Which brings us to: SOUND: gong CHARLOTTE STRECK Goal: Mobilizing demand in emerging markets NARRATOR Remember earlier, when we talked about certification? We learned that 21 percent of all palm oil is certified by the Round Table on Sustainable Palm Oil, or the RSPO. One reason it's not higher is that people still, for the most part, buy whatever is cheapest, so it's not worthwhile for producers to spend all that money getting certified -- and that's even more so in developing countries. Kavita Prakash-Mani of WWF is working to change that. Kavita Prakash-Mani 21 percent CHARLOTTE STRECK In addition to this: domestic demand NARRATOR We're getting near the end here, folks -- so far, we've talked a lot about producers and consumers, but what about investors? SOUND: drumroll NARRATOR That brings up our next priority area: SOUND: Gong CHARLOTTE STRECK Redirecting Finance NARRATOR This is something we cover a lot on bionic planet, and it's the core of what we cover at Ecosystem Marketplace. Investors are still backing the bad actors, and they'll continue to do so until they realize that environmental bad actors are also financial bad risks -- but they'll only realize that if we all hold the bad actors accountable and support the good ones. We've seen some progress on this front over the past year, with HSBC manning up to some investments that led to deforestation and pulling the plug. You can learn more about that in an article I wrote for Ecosystem Marketplace called "Why HSBC's Recent Response To Greenpeace Really Is A Very Big Deal", and I link to that in show notes for this episode, which is episode 22 at bionic-planet.com. We're also seeing governments like Norway's stepping up with finance for sustainable forest management. Stina Reksten private-sector-capital 1 NARRATOR That's Stina Reksten of Norway's International Climate and Forest Initiative. She's helping to launch a new fund, together with the Global Environment Facility, Unilever, and IDH -- which is a Dutch sustainable trade initiative. STINA REKSTEN private-sector-capital 2 NARRATOR But that's just a sneeze in a hurricane compared to the $55 trillion global economy CHARLOTTE STRECK we have the finance NARRATOR But finance doesn't flow with guidance SOUND: drumroll NARRATOR And that brings us to... SOUND: gong CHARLOTTE STRECK data NARRATOR This is where we come in. I already mentioned Supply Change -- that's supply-change.org -- and we did another episode -- episode 11 -- focused on a platform called TRASE, which lets you trace soybeans from specific municipalities in Brazil to ports around the world. There are plenty of other efforts, and Nicole Pasricha of Rainforest Alliance outlined one that they're participating in. Nicole Pasricha point 10 NARRATOR That might sound boring and wonky, but the whole issue of comparability is critical -- because if you can't compare what different countries, companies, and counties are doing, you can't reject -- or reform -- the bad guys and reward the good Remember Ignacio Gavilan of the Consumer Goods Forum? He pointed out that member firms didn't know how much soy they used. So his group created a solution IGNACIO GAVILAN soy ladder NARRATOR Ignacio Gavilan wrapping up this edition of Bionic Planet -- which is a bit different than most episodes. I usually like to dive deep into an issue, but this time, we kept it pretty high-level. I hope to revisit all of these activities in more detail, and if you think that would be of value, be sure to help me out by sharing Bionic Planet with friends and giving me a good rating on iTunes, Stitcher, or wherever you access podcasts. You can also help by becoming a patron at bionic-planet.com -- where you can show your appreciation for as little as $1 per month. If today's show sparked your curiosity, be sure to download episode 23 as well. That one will contain the full audio from the Climate Week session that I harvested for this. If you're a paid patron, I will not be charging for episode 23, but rather just uploading that as a public service. Until next time, I'm Steve Zwick in Rotterdam. Thanks for listening!

Episode Five of the JBMcast features two non-fiction pieces of mine published at Artidest.com, a virtual gallery and zine. The first explores the challenge of writing characters of the opposite sex, written for the zine's gender equality issue; the second recalls a visit to the London studio of Dianne Kaufman. Also featured is the original guitar demo for Farewell, Clarissa!'s Meet at Dusk. Enjoy! and thanks for listening/sharing. JBM x

On this week's Rewind with Oisin Langan: Keith Wood, Liam Toland, Matt O'Connor, JBM, Ger Cunningham, Billy Joe Padden, Paddy Mulligan and Raf Diallo

On this week's rewind, Michael Carrick, Shane Long, Eamon O'Shea, Brian Cody, JBM, Davy Fitz, Jamesie O'Connor, Joe Coffey, Keith Wood and Raf Diallo react and analyse

On this week's podcast: Ray Houghton, Shane Byrne, Martin Corry, Aaron Kernan, Brian Cody, Eamon O'Shea, Anthony Cunningham, JBM, Richie McCormack and Raf Diallo

El hecho ocurrió este fin de semana durante el Campeonato Nacional Interclubes Sub-17 de fútbol cuando se enfrentaban JBM de Villavicencio y Envigado. El... See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

*HOSTED by Dirty Decibel147 & RSK *Mixed by CRONOSFADER a.k.a. #NEWJACK_BE *Director & engineer:: Dirty Decibel147 & BOXCUTTA -SPECIAL GUEST- JBM & KGE THE SHADOWMEN -SPECIAL GUEST DJ - DEEZY 今回のSUBLIMINALone RADIOSHOW vol,7は"BANG BLACKS":「BANG BLACKS 1st ALBUM PROJECT」で話題の千葉を拠点として長く活動を続けてきた、JBM氏とKGE THE SHADOWMEN氏の2人に参加して頂きました。 前半のMIXはMIX CD "#NEWJACK_BE"をDROPさせたばかりのCRONOSFADERがSPIN。 後半のMIXを担当して頂いたのはJBMやBULLDAWGSのLIVE DJを務め、長年レコード屋に勤務してた経歴をもち新譜から旧譜まで幅広い知識と耳、独自のスタイルを持つDJ DEEZY氏がSPIN。 Don't miss it. ........................................................................................................................................................ [PROJECT概要] PROJECT：BANG BLACKS 1st ALBUM PROJECT CREATER：BANG BLACKS（JBM & KGE THE SHADOWMEN） PROJECT期間：2013年5月5日～2013年8月8日（予定） 会員数：444人限定　※定員に達し次第、ご予約を締め切らさせていただきます。 価格：5,250円（税込） HP: http://creative-platform.org/cpfseries/cpf004/ [JBM] K.O.D.P.やTEAM44BLOXなどへの参加、活動を機に頭角を現し、盟友達と共に立ち上げたBANG RECORDS(現BANG STAYSTONED)からdope musicを発信する、現行日本語ラップの一端を担う重要人物。 またゲリラグループKOGAI UNITの中心メンバーとしての顔も持つ。2013年3月13日に新作「BUMPⅡ」をリリース。 [KGE THE SHADOWMEN] 千葉県出身、BANG STAYSTONED所属。TEAM 44 BLOXのメンバーでありB.D. 、JBM、MIKRISらとBULLDAWGSと言うユニットも組む。 主に渋谷、池袋、柏、土浦、水戸などJBL(常磐線)を中心に活動、徐々にその活動範囲を全国区に広げている。 2013年4月3日、KGE THE SHADOWMEN & HIMUKI 2nd ALBUM『2nd Impact』をリリース。現在、日本最高峰のMCの１人との呼び声も高い。 ........................................................................................................................................................

"and it's strange, yes it's strange, though the seasons often change the song in my heart stays the same" Homepage - www.DarkhorseRadio.com iTunes : http://tinyurl.com/ox9ssf Facebook : http://on.fb.me/darkhorseradio Twitter: @darkhorseradio  email :  alan [at] darkhorse.co.uk Here is what I played in show 113 …… Meg Hutchinson - Vanishing Points Cousti - Mallaig Beat the Heart - Glebe Market Almunia - L&G Psychedelic Tristan Mackay - The Song in Her Heart Farewell Milwaukee - You Bought a Ticket Out JBM - Red October JBM - Swallowing Daggers Roy Rieck and the Medley Band - Mori's Song Email with any comments - or leave feedback on the website (use ‘Comments’ link) I can be reached here: alan [at] darkhorse.co.uk. Darkhorse Radio is a member of the Association of Music Podcasting (AMP) The photo with these notes is ‘Chalk Heroes' ©AJC, 2011 Alan www.DarkhorseRadio.com

Have I mentioned how much fun it really is doing the radio thing?  Sunday and Wednesday nights are generally spent drinking beer, shooting the breeze, and listening to music with some of the coolest people in town, in my humble opinion.  Now we've add live-in-my-home concerts from some of my favorite players!?  Do you have any idea how brutal this makes my Mondays and Thursdays at the day job?  Long time listeners of the show will remember Junk Box Mike and John Boyer's first appearance on Indy In-Tune, as Junk Box Mike and band, where collectively we were the first podcast to be recorded in, and the first people forcibly ejected from, the Palladium in Carmel.  Now they become the first guests to actually perform all of their tracks live for the podcast.  Don't worry, if you missed the live performance, you'll get a chance to hear it replayed during that "Monday Night Live" thing I'm still trying to get worked out.  OTR, as opposed to JBM, features high energy bluegrass-influenced music played with the precision of two excellent musicians and occasionally joined by some of the finest supplemental players in the metro area.  Even if bluegrass isn't your thing -- and I have to admit that beyond a a casual appreciation and respect it really isn't mine --  these guys will make believers out of you. Links referenced in the show:       Old Truck Revival can be found here: | | .   John and Mike previously appeared on . Their debut album, Oweda, can be found at the usual suspects: | | .    OTR occasionally includes supplemental payers such as Ralph Ed Jeffers (of ), Chick Singer, (of Sindicato), Scott Kern of ), Gary Rakow (), fiddle player , and Jon Martin (of Sindicato, Stone Martin Band, , among others). played the building now occupied by ?  Who knew?     Our second song, Sun Chicken, was once featured on the syndicated radio show . Out fourth song, Screen Door, was written by .

Garth and I start off a new era of AA Cafe podcasting talking about expensive coffees. Nekisse, La Minita, El Boton Natural and Las Animas Natural, Aricha and Beloya, Geisha, Kona, JBM... I got a great interview with Joseph Brodsky of Ninety Plus. Thanks to him and all the people who helped with our new AA Cafe intro.

No, it's just Americana by way of Leeroy Stagger, Jason Isbell & the 400 Unit, Uncle Tupelo (vintage!), Gina Villalobos, the Yearlings, Sorta, Salim Nourallah, Gregory Allan Isakov, Devon Sproule (with a reggae song!), Magnolia Electric Co and JBM.

Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: So I do think it’s a really tough sell for classic native apps into the enterprise. Now there is another market which you might call independent creative professionals, and these buyers value different things and say what they want is powerful tools that are shaped to their needs and workflow that they can deploy on their platform of choice, and that give them a lot of abilities and that are kind of unique to them as a creator. 00:00:26 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad and Mac, but this podcast isn’t about Muse the product, it’s about Muse the company and the small team behind it. I’m here today with my colleagues Mark McGranaghan. Hey Adam, and Leonard S Saberski. Hello. And I don’t know if you fellows noticed, but we changed the intro a little bit. I did. So this is a bit more aspirational than actual, but exciting news, Muse 2 is coming early next year, that will be in early 2022. I’ll link to our roadmap memo talking about that, and one of the top features there is a MacA. 00:01:07 - Speaker 1: Very exciting, the pieces are coming together. 00:01:09 - Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly this has been part of our vision from the beginning, tying together all the devices where creative people do work. Clearly, the iPad, while we think it was sort of like an underserved device and has a lot of potential for creative uses, particularly this thinking work that Muse is all about, but having, I think, pretty well explored that, we also need to fill in these other pieces of the puzzle. And so, desktop is obviously the next step there. And of course, one answer on desktop is you make a web app, either something runs in a browser or something that runs in a, what’s called an electron app, which is basically just kind of a wrapper for a browser or a web technology app. But we’re opting to do something that is what I would call a native app, and I thought that would be a great opportunity to explore the topic of native apps generally and what those even are and and what they mean for users of the software. So maybe we can talk a bit about the technical side of that because it is fundamentally a technical thing, but then the design user experience, you know, what does it mean to design a native app and what’s the benefit to users or how should things look or feel different for them. And I’d also like to speak a little to the business side at the end because we’ve seen a big growth in a lot of interesting productivity tools, both kind of business team, enterprisey stuff, but also personal tools and see how the native app question fits in there. So Mark, you’re the most technical of this group, I think by a fair shot. So maybe you could briefly define for us what is a native app or what’s even the alternative to that and how do they differ. 00:02:48 - Speaker 1: Well, there are a lot of different axes here, but let me give you the classic native app and then the contrast with say the web app. So classically, a native app is something that you download as a binary artifact like a DMG versus a web app where you would go to a URL. It’s implemented in the native language and stack of the platform. So for an Apple products that would be Objective C or Swift. And it integrates closely with the platform features and libraries for things like UI systems access, input and output, and so forth. Contrast with web, it’s going to be implemented in the language of the web, you know, HTML and you might have more or less access to the underlying platform features you might not be able to read it and write the disk, for example. And then I think importantly, traditionally native apps store things locally. On the local disk and web app store things in the cloud. Now, as we’re going to discuss, I’m sure you can mix and match different axis here, but that’s the classic native app as I see it. 00:03:45 - Speaker 2: Right, so I think of the classic native productivity tools would be something like the Microsoft Office Suite. So if you were on a Windows computer in the 90s or early 2000s and you would download or even install it from a CD probably, so you’ve got the, as you said, the binary program, you copy that software onto your computer, you run it there, and then when you want to save something, a XLS. or a doc that goes onto your hard drive somewhere and you can transmit that to someone else, you can email it, put it on a floppy disk or a thumb drive, but everything is very on the local device and the software is there and downloaded and runs right there on your computer. And nowadays, both with things like Google Docs, actually, I think Microsoft has even transitioned to cloud kind of web apps with their stuff as well. That’s something where you’re really connecting to someone else’s computer or cluster of computers, AKA the cloud through your web browser and everything stored. Basically, most of the sort of software itself is run on their computer and sort of the results just transmitted to you and the data itself is also stored there. 00:04:52 - Speaker 1: Yeah, and just to give an example of mixing and matching these different aspects, you have electron apps which are distributed as binaries like DMGs on Mac, but under the hood they wrap what is basically a web browser, so you have a web implementation and then the resulting feel and storage characteristics is often in between that of a native app and web app. It feels kind of webby, but also kind of native, depends on the individual developer, but that’s an example of how you can mix and match some of these axes. 00:05:22 - Speaker 2: Electron has become incredibly pervasive. Slack’s desktop app is Electron, so it’s the Spotify app, so there’s the Notion app, so there’s the FIMA app, so this sort of, yeah, wraps up, would otherwise be a web app. Another piece on the technical side, I think is it’s not just this kind of web and cloud versus local program and local storage duality, but it’s also how you implement that interface. So there’s typically APIs that are customed to a platform, so Windows. has a set of APIs, Mac has a set of APIs, iOS has a set of APIs, there’s often widget toolkits that go with that, you know, on Linux, you have something like GTK, often there are different widget toolkits, and so the degree to which you use or don’t use those can make it feel native. Now, Leonard, maybe you can give us the user experience or the design side. What does native mean kind of within your discipline? 00:06:18 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there are a few different ways of looking at it. So one is to just take the technical definition and look at, OK, we have a native app. What does that mean for the design of the interface? And we have a non-native app, what does that mean for the design? And there are sort of implications on both sides that can make the user experience better or worse. But what I actually find more interesting is thinking about what makes an app feel native and look native, even completely separate from the technical implementation of it. So I think there are a lot of different factors to untangle that just from the user experience, make an app feel native. 00:06:55 - Speaker 1: Yeah, and we can enumerate a few aspects of this. So one that you’ve mentioned already is the look and feel based on the UI toolkit and how the controls look. Another, I think is how the app interacts with the underlying platform. So for example, different platforms expect applications to write user data in different locations on the disk, you know, like Unix has like the slash user or whatever, and Mac has the till the application support or whatever it is on Mac, right? And sometimes you get these apps that are multi-platform, they start writing data in really random places and it confuses you. And maybe a third example, the most subtle would be the mental models and metaphors that an application uses. So on Mac kind of uniquely there’s this idea of app that’s separate from Windows, like physical instantiations of the app, and so you can have an app open with no Windows. Or you can have an app open with multiple windows, and that’s quite different from how it works on Windows, where if you click the X, like the application exits, because the window is the app and vice versa. 00:07:50 - Speaker 2: Linux window managers typically work the same ways, and also that you can run the program twice, right? So that was something I has a Linux on the desktop user for many, many years, and I actually really liked that if I ran my Text editor, for example, a second time with my command pallet or from the command line or just by clicking the icon, I would get a second window, a second instance of that, and with Mac, when you click on it in the dock or you all tab to it, it brings whatever was already there to the front. So basically whether the program is running or not gives you different behavior when you go to launch it. 00:08:24 - Speaker 1: And maybe one more thing we could throw in there in terms of platform access is just the power of the features that you have access to. So a lot of audio and video things, for example, are hard to get at if you’re not a more native app on the iPad, for example, you can only get 120 hertz if you can’t do that as a web app and so forth. 00:08:40 - Speaker 3: And I think a lot of that is not just because you don’t have technical access to those features, but even just because these apps are designed for so many different platforms and so many different devices that basically every feature that isn’t available on all of these platforms just isn’t that important and isn’t that easy to build. 00:09:00 - Speaker 1: Yes, and this brings us to what you might call the implied aspects or dimensions of native versus non-native apps. So you mentioned one which is if you’re building a non-native app, it’s often because you’re building for multiple platforms and then you tend to get this least common denominator effect where you only use the features that are available on all platforms. Another one that we found is quite important is performance, where sometimes but not always, if you implement the app in a way that’s less native, you can suffer worse performance or perhaps have a lower performance ceiling. 00:09:30 - Speaker 2: One thing we learned working with web technologies and styluses was, for example, that the data you could get from the APIs was just less. Yes, you can get input, maybe you can even tell it’s a stylus, but you couldn’t get, for example, the asimuth of the pencil. And maybe that doesn’t matter for your particular application, but for example, for Muse where we wanted to do weird stuff with you hold the stylus in a different grip, and then you get a different tool, and we thought this would be a cool and interesting and powerful way to take advantage of that unique form factor, but it just wasn’t on the web at the time. And I think the web tends to catch up eventually, but that stuff always comes first to the native platform APIs. 00:10:08 - Speaker 1: Yeah, it’s a good point that there’s a time dimension here where, as you said, often web or multi-platform umbrellas will catch up over time, but you’re less able to change as the underlying platform makes changes, you need to basically wait for the change to propagate up through the various abstraction layers that you’re using, whereas if you’re native, as soon as the underlying API changes, you can adopt it. 00:10:32 - Speaker 2: Now another slice maybe of the kind of native versus not, again on the technical side here is the web I think of as being the sort of universal runtime that won the wars of the early 2000s, so for those graybeards like me who are around to experience that. Java and the JBM was a very big push in the industry to create this concept of right once run anywhere, that you have different computing platforms or different kinds of computers, different operating systems, different manufacturers, but in a way they were kind of especially pre-mobile, they were basically all pretty similar in terms of they have screens and keyboards and some kind of pointing device and seems silly that you have to rewrite your app to run it in. Different places and the JVM had this concept that it could make this universal run time, make it run anywhere and Flash had a version of that as well, but they both were basically pretty terrible experiences for anyone that ever remembered running Java Servlet applications or Flash had its uses, but in the end also it felt like this this very confined box that was just constrained. From interacting with your computer in all these useful ways, and I think the web eventually won that war where essentially everyone now has a web runtime environment. It’s called the browser. It’s become extremely powerful. It often can tap a lot of the operating system APIs for hard audio and video access and things like that. And of course we do love the web for a lot of reasons and that has unlocked a lot of things, but in the end it is this essentially kind of translation layer. Another type of translation layer that isn’t requiring the user to install a runtime, that is a browser or a JVM is something like React Native, or something like Cordova. It’s the right ones run anywhere concept, but rather than trying to give that sort of general bundle to someone on Windows and someone on Mac downloads the same program, the Java jar or the web HTML plus related assets bundle. Instead, you actually compile it, trans. You might even say to each of these platforms. So React Native, for example, is a mobile application platform. You write your app for a phone, but then it can compile to iOS and it can compile to Android, and these are true native apps in the sense that then you compile them and build them with the normal iOS and Android tool chain, they become a binary artifact that is probably hard to tell from casual inspection. That it wasn’t built kind of directly using Xcode or the Android equivalent workspace. And yet of course it has the downside that now as you said, lowest common denominator there is this translation layer, but it just kind of happens at a different time. It happens on sort of the developer’s computer when they do the build and through this toolchain rather than the end user’s computer. And so that probably gives you some performance benefits, but there is this thing where you’re kind of homogenizing between the platforms. 00:13:36 - Speaker 1: Yeah, and with React Native in particular, you seem to get the now you have N +1 problems issue, which we have to some extent with browsers, sort of famously web developers deal with browser quirks and every browser is a little bit different, although that seems to be less of an issue these days with auto updating browser. But with React Native, it seems to be a huge deal. Probably because of the surface area and complexity and dynamism of the underlying APIs, just trying to write something that compiles reasonably and runs reasonably on these two platforms which are very different and have very particular APIs just has proven to be quite hard, but we can talk more about how that’s played out. 00:14:07 - Speaker 2: But where I thought the technical side interleaves pretty well with the designer user experience side is I feel like this. I don’t know if it’s a siren song, or at least it is an appealing idea to developers and to certainly to businesses that don’t want to have to maintain code bases and multiple platforms that you write kind of one single code base and then you can deliver it to different platforms through some kind of minor effort, minor translation layer. And I feel like it’s so compelling to the creators of the software, but then as a user of the software, then there’s this thing where, yeah, it just seems like it’s never as good. It’s gone through this translation layer, it’s lowest common denominator, either it feels like the other platform. So, one example there might be something like, I sometimes use the Audacity audio editor, which I originally used on Linux back when I was in that world, it’s built using the GTK toolkit, so it was native to that environment. And they build what you would call native versions for Windows and Mac, but it looks like Linux, because it uses the GTK toolkit, it does not integrate at all well, and that matters a lot for audio stuff, so it’s a good example there with Audacity, it’s hard to switch between your audio sources, it basically gets really confused, it just doesn’t use the Mac audio APIs very well, so it ends up feeling very, very clunky and feeling like it’s been transplanted from this other place, even though it’s been compiled in this way. 00:15:34 - Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is an engineering problem. You’re not fated one way or another to have either a great uniform app or a terrible app that looks bad on all the different platforms. Another example would be Flutter. Flutter. Yeah, so they did the same thing. It’s right once run anywhere for I think primarily targeting mobile platforms, but they did the thing where they reimplemented all the iOS controls, Pixel for Pixel, and it basically looks pretty good, even though you’re not using the AS controls at all, so it can be done, just big engineering problem. 00:16:01 - Speaker 2: So Leonard, what for you is some examples of great native apps that showcase, it’s not necessarily about the technology, but it’s about being designed specifically for a particular form factor, or a particular platform. 00:16:14 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the most obvious example to look at is just the Apple apps, you know, that’s the sort of gold standard, of course, in terms of native apps that are adapted to each platform. There has been, at least in recent times, like some exceptions to that, where they are also trying to bring the iPhone or the iPad app to the Mac. And that can result in something similar to just bringing a web app to the Mac, where it’s not really optimized for the platform and it doesn’t quite feel right. But yeah, there are some great examples and I think especially for the pro apps, you know, Final Cut or something. This is a very native app that feels great in its design exactly for the platform. I think there are still a few third party apps that do a great job, like Things app. Which is a task manager. 00:17:01 - Speaker 2: Things was gonna come to mind for me, yeah. 00:17:03 - Speaker 3: Yeah, and things are surprisingly, I don’t think they actually use that many completely native UI elements like a lot of the UI is sort of custom, but all of it feels very native and it is still a native app and they just customize elements to sort of bring in their own brand and do things a little bit differently to fit their needs. 00:17:25 - Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, the feeling native thing is not about using system controls. I think it’s good when kind of principle at least surprise or you’re familiar with these controls, and so therefore, you know, if your share sheet just uses that standard share action icon and you tap on it and you get a pop up, whereas I think it’s quite common. I know a couple of apps do this quite annoyingly where you tap that share icon and you get something that is not the iOS default share thing, maybe Twitter does that. 00:17:55 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I think YouTube does that and basically all the Google apps, like they first show a share sheet that highlights all the different Google ways to share and then like at the very bottom of the very right corner, you have to scroll to there’s like a tiny more button and then you get the actual share sheet. 00:18:09 - Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there’s some more thing and that takes you to the system one. For me, it’s not necessarily about using the system widgets everywhere, it is about performance, it is about using the form factor to its best extent, and I think things is an example I like because they have apps for Mac, for iPad, for the phone, and they’re all very similar visually and they have a lot of the same controls, but they use the different screen size. And they use the different options that are available in each place. So, for example, they’ve got great keyboard shortcuts, which you can use on the iPad and you can use on the Mac, they’re not relevant on the phone for obvious reasons, and so, making use of what exists in each place, even if it’s just different screen sizes and orientations, is part of what it’s about, that it’s been thought about, how do we make this work well on this. Device and I think that’s where often either the translation layers or back to some of our very first episodes of the podcast, Mark and I spoke quite a bit about what he usually calls the transliteration of apps, rather you take a desktop app and you try to bring it to the iPad, or you bring an iPhone app and you bring it to the iPad, and either way, if you haven’t really thought about iPad’s unique capabilities, unique form factor, it just feels like a port, like a weird port. And sometimes I’ve even seen versions of these where people take iPhone apps and make it available on iPad, but it doesn’t even work in landscape mode. It’s got this weird letterboxing. I almost think, why does this even exist? It is so out of place on this platform that you might as well just not even have it. 00:19:50 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there’s another reason here why many larger companies prefer a non-native design for the apps. And I think often it basically comes down to their brand identity and they don’t want to give up their brand for feeling native. So in the end, it becomes a decision between being native to the system and native to the brand that you’ve established and the sort of visual system around that. And so for example, apps like Spotify, they basically look the same on every platform, on every device and they also behave and feel similar, right? And I think for them, that’s a very conscious decision not only because they don’t want to develop a native app for every single platform, but also because their brand is so important to them. And I think that’s especially true for industries like music streaming or even like car sharing food ordering where it’s very commoditized and you basically have to rely on your brand for people to use your service. And so if they all switch to like a generally more bland, less branded native experience where they can’t control every single aspect of the app, I think that’s just not worth it to them. 00:20:59 - Speaker 2: I think you also see the war between the tech giant empires play out there a little bit, right? Google wants to bring their material design stuff. It’s actually an interesting thing recently where maybe it’s the Google Maps team or one of the teams that takes some of the Google products and brings them to iOS, and they retired a bunch of their custom widgets, some really interesting Twitter thread there. I’ll see if I can find and link it, but They do have a kind of consistent, I mean, material design is great and it’s consistent across these different platforms they’re on, it’s tied to their brand, but there is also this element of Google and Apple are kind of warring empires in a way, and you probably get a similar thing with Microsoft as well. And so it’s weird to say that you know Microsoft Office doesn’t feel that native on Mac because they want to like. Use their unique brand identity when Microsoft’s office is pretty bland and vanilla, but there is this element of it’s their, they’re trying to bring some of their empire into this other company’s empire, and so sometimes you see these wars play out, maybe like the YouTube share sheet is an example of that. What you’re seeing is not kind of user-centric design, what you’re seeing is the warring tech giants trying to encroach on each other’s territory. 00:22:12 - Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think if you take it to the extreme, there can be cases where basically a third party creates a platform on top of your system that’s just completely takes over the design. Like a lot of people just spend a ton of time on Facebook and use Facebook apps and Facebook services and everything that’s created there will just look like Facebook and not support anything system related. And I think there’s a similar thing in many countries where you know in China you have WeChat and that is like the platform that everything runs on and it doesn’t matter at all if it’s running on an iPhone or an Android. It just becomes the system essentially. 00:22:47 - Speaker 2: Yeah, that’s a good example, and I’ll tell you another good example, almost the most impressive one of all time, which was in the 1990s, Microsoft had an absolute lock on the desktop operating system. To the point that they were, you know, being hauled in front of federal courts for essentially having a monopoly, and the thing that eventually broke that was not legal action, I don’t think, but was the web and the appearance of the web browser was essentially this insertion of a whole other platform, or other almost operating system. That you could run inside this existing platform, and I think ultimately the web was what broke the Microsoft monoculture and Microsoft computing monopoly a little bit. And so rightly so, I think companies are afraid of that. Apple probably works hard to defend against that, for example, not allowing other browser engines on iOS or letting you do anything that runs code or anything that looks vaguely platform like and for good or for ill, but you can see why from a business perspective and defending your empire perspective, that’s a wise decision. So Leonard, you’ve been spending a lot of time on the design of Muse for Mac recently, and without giving too much away there, I’d be curious to know how you went into approaching that or if you have this idea in your mind that it’s good to design something to feel native, it’s less about the technology and more about how it feels and what the end user experiences, what principles did you bring to bear, or how are you approaching the design of use for Mac with that in mind? 00:24:23 - Speaker 3: Yeah, it’s interesting because Muse is basically a native app both on the iPad and on the Mac, but it does still feel like a bit of a foreign entity when you use it since we are not using that many system components by default and we are doing things a lot differently than many other iOS apps. 00:24:42 - Speaker 2: One of the things I found really interesting reading some of your just internal memos as you were gearing up for this project was pointing out that basically Muse for Mac will use a lot more system widgets and a lot more common conventions around things like menus and shortcuts and Right, click context menus and things, and that’s basically because Mac is the world’s best, it’s just my personal opinion, but I think a lot of people share it, it is the world’s best platform for creativity and productivity. So on iPad, we came into it saying we think this device has huge potential for creative tools, but that potential is not being exercised, and that’s lack of the right kind of software and it’s also lack of the right kind of support from the operating system or the right kind of widgets or the right kind of system APIs. And so we kind of invented a lot of our own, and we started with a literal blank canvas and brought in a lot of our own controls and interactions and so on, taking advantage of a lot of the things that make iOS very powerful, including the high performance and the programming frameworks and so on, but really the system level widgets were of less use to us. But it seems like on Mac, that will be less the case because in fact there is a multi-decade history. In fact, I would argue that Mac traces its lineage back to Xerox PARC when Steve Jobs went in there and saw the future of computers in the form of the Alto and brought that to Lisa and then the original Macintosh. And so it’s steadily accumulating all our best practices about how to be productive on computers in that time. 00:26:19 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I think iOS and iPads have something very special and unique there where every app really feels like its own world and it sort of lives on its own. And I think as a result of that, we have seen many native IOS apps looking very different from each other. And that’s not really as much the case on the Mac. Like the native apps on the Mac all look quite similar and feel quite similar. Like there are some that, you know, maybe trying things differently and either succeeding or failing, but in the end, like they are all trying to follow the same visual language. And that’s not really the case on iOS and I think that provides an interesting opportunity at least for designers to try new things. And I think you have to be a bit more careful with that on the Mac since yeah, there’s such a long tradition on the Mac and be right next to all kinds of other apps and people kind of have a different expectation of how an app fits into the system. And so I think a general rule for us, even though it doesn’t seem like it at first, is actually we deviate from sort of the native default design for a future, then like that has to be a very deliberate decision and like we have to have a reason for it. We have to understand why the system component or the system design pattern works differently and then we can sort of do our own thing with it. And I think that’s even more true on the Mac and there will also be less reasons basically to do our own thing. 00:27:41 - Speaker 2: Yeah, to name one example that comes to mind as a pretty core design idea from Muse dating back to our research prototype days is that you should never have to wait for anything, no controls, no gestures, have some kind of built. In delay. So the standard drag and drop on iOS, and that includes iPad OS, is that you hold your finger down for some period of time. It’s usually about half a second and then the item kind of lifts up and then you can carry it someplace else. And the problem with that is if you want to move a bunch of items quickly while you’re constantly waiting. And we wanted to make something where you could not only never have to wait, but in fact, with the larger screen of the iPad, there’s this really neat effect where you can start moving your hand in the direction of where you want to move the card, bring the finger down and sort of catch it just like it’s an index card sliding across your desk, move it to where it’s gonna go and let go. So there’s no delay there, but that, you know, is our own custom gesture system because that’s quite an unusual way to do things as far as I know. I don’t know that I’ve seen any other app on iOS do that, whereas on Mac, yeah, guess what, when you click on an item and start dragging it, it goes right away. That’s, that’s how it works. That’s how basically all programs work. And so, great, so there we just do the standard thing that everyone else does. 00:29:03 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you can really achieve a lot if you try to play to each system’s strength and not just, you know, try to adapt one element and like make it work. But really think about the different kinds of inputs and systems surrounding your app. Like at the very basic level on the iPad, of course, we have touch input and, you know, that feels great. You have like a very direct way to manipulate things, can your gestures and we use that a lot from use on the iPad. But then on the Mac, like if we just take all of that stuff and let you do the same stuff with the mouse, yeah, theoretically that would work, but it’s just not going to feel great. And so instead, the mouse has its own benefits, right? Like it’s much more precise. It can be used in tandem with the keyboard that’s also always there. And so I think there will be a lot of opportunities like that where if we really think about what the strength of each platform is, then we can do something that web apps which have to serve the lowest common denominator, can’t even do at all. 00:30:01 - Speaker 2: And I think it’s not just the capabilities of the platform, but the use cases you are going to use them for and even how you were sitting. So Mark, I think this was part of your kind of original vision for the multi-device use experience. I’ll see if I can paraphrase here, which is, you know, when you’re at the computer, you’re in this focus posture, you’re probably sitting upright, you’ve got the bigger screen, you’ve got the keyboard and mouse. You’re probably doing something like deep research on the web or maybe production work, like writing a long paper or designing an interface or something, whereas the tablet, maybe you’re sitting in a reading chair, you’re at a cafe, maybe you’re outside somewhere. You’re in this much more relaxed, or you have a lot more variety of positions you can have flat on the desk, sitting in your lap, that sort of thing. You might be holding it in different angles and you’re using it more for this thinking, arranging, pondering, you’re scratching your chin and sipping your coffee and maybe getting up and pacing around the room. You know, that’s more of the setting that you’re in. And so, of course, you have different capabilities on each device, but in many cases you actually have different uses, and so we should be as much as we can designing for those uses, I think, without also being too restrictive about we obviously don’t want to stop you from doing any one particular thing in any one particular environment, but knowing roughly what sort of environment and what sort of use you’re having seems like a thing to take into account with the design work. 00:31:24 - Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and then by the way, the phone is going to be, you’re on the go, you have one hand and a few taps, and that’s it to either save something or look something up quickly. 00:31:32 - Speaker 2: Yeah, a good example on the phone is I think it’s considered best practice, and I think I probably agree with this to try to make everything doable essentially with one finger, basically one thumb, and also a thumb that you can reach, you know, maybe in the bottom half of the screen. So most of what you want to do when you’re hailing a ride. You’re messaging with a friend, you’re quickly looking something up on the map. You got to imagine that you’re juggling the phone in one hand, maybe you got a coffee or a baby or a dog’s leash or a bag in the other hand, it’s a noisy environment, maybe you’re outside. And so what the design should prepare for is I’m at my office, it’s quiet. I’m looking at a big screen, I’ve got my hands on a full-sized keyboard, and I can take my time and I have much more precision, and I want more control and power, but it’s also OK if the essentially things are a lot fussier. There’s more on screen at the time, and if I click on the wrong place, it’s OK, I’ll undo that sort of thing. 00:32:29 - Speaker 1: OK, so we’ve been talking a little bit abstractly here about use cases and postures and number of hands available and so forth. Leonard, to kind of bring it back to the concrete visuals, how do you see that being different across these different platforms and native versus non-native? 00:32:43 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there’s always a very interesting conflict between native and non-native apps where native apps always seem like sort of the dull ones and the ones that aren’t going to be visually unique or interesting. Like we talked about this earlier with the brand design and presumably if you do a native app, you know, your brand is not really going to shine through. And so I think the instinct is very often to just not follow the native design so that you can sort of do something unique and do something interesting and then your app will actually stand out from the crowd. 00:33:14 - Speaker 1: This is like moral hazard, visual designer edition. It reminds me in the world of engineering where sometimes companies make it a requirement to get promoted, they do something complicated, and then so engineers introduce a whole bunch of unnecessary complicated stuff into production because they want to get promoted. As a similar vibe to me. 00:33:30 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there’s actually a management part to that where as a designer, if you, if you strictly try to follow the system components, like those are basically constraints, and if someone tells you and says, you know, we want to do a specific thing this way, then you might have to say that’s not compatible with the system way of doing it and we can’t do that since we are following the system guidelines. And so it’s very appealing in that way to just do your own thing and then you can always say, OK, yeah, let’s do what we want basically. I do think we kind of have a bit of a lost art idea of being able to get the most out of the native components and being able to bring your own design language into them. Like if you look a few decades back to something like Windows 95. Like there when you download like a media player from the internet, you would actually have skins that you can also download and then the app just looks completely different and completely wacky and basically by now modern interface standards usable, but it introduced a ton of personalization and sort of uniqueness to the whole platform, right? And I think it’s somewhat making a comeback that like some apps have options for themes or skins you can click through and those can still be native apps and they just sort of transform how things look a bit and introduce some personalization to it. 00:34:46 - Speaker 2: One interesting point there, I think we talked about with Weiweiu in our episode about expressive tools is there’s the designer or the company getting to express their unique brand, like you mentioned Spotify, and then there’s the individual getting to customize so that they can express their unique personality through their computing environment. So I think the Winna skins were great. Yeah, a lot of them were maybe not super usable, but maybe for a media player, that’s pretty simple anyways, it’s just like play pause, volume, jump track, you as a user are choosing, I want this wacky, brightly colored one, because I like what that expresses about myself and brings some customization to my computing environment. Which something about that feels more wholesome or maybe just comes back to this user-centric thing again compared to my company has a prerogative to use our brand styling system everywhere possible in order to maximize shareholder value or a designer wants to get promoted because they did something cool and unique that stood out to their team or to their boss. I don’t want to be too negative on that. I think there are a lot of good places for bringing unique style and character to an application that reflects your team or your product, but I think those are two really different categories. 00:36:05 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess what I would like to see more is just people trying to merge the two and trying to use native components and still infuse them with their own brand. Like one great example of that is a Wikipedia reading app called V for Wikipedia. And that basically uses like 90% system components, but if you just look at it, like it still exudes sort of its own style just by type of. colors, iconography, animations, good image views, and that sort of requires, I think, a pretty high craftsmanship to be able to really merge the two and you have to really know what each component is doing and what you’re trying to do with it. But yeah, I think if we could see more of that, that would elevate native apps to a level where non-native apps don’t have as much as an advantage at these foreign brands anymore. 00:36:56 - Speaker 2: Another example that comes to mind for me on that when you’re talking about typography is Twitter. I think they do pretty well with something that to me feels like a pretty fundamental app on the iPhone, browsing social media sort of like, for better or for worse, what our pocket communicators have largely become for. They have a new typeface that I think they had custom designed, but for the most part, they really give over the space to user content. You have avatars, you have the handles, you have the tweet. And you have, you know, an image or video, and you can scroll through that in a feed, and it mostly feels pretty kind of integrated to the operating system, and I think it works pretty well with the share actions and things like that, although they may have their own share button problems. But in general, it feels like there’s a Twitter brand, but it also doesn’t feel too overbearing or feeling like they’re forcing it on you, or either that that’s taking away from sort of the personal brands, you could say a person communicates through their Twitter bio or whatever, or that it feels out of place on the iPhone. I think it feels very good and natural on the phone. Multimemedia kind of audio and video stuff. There’s also another interesting one coming back to the WA thing, and you also mentioned Final Cut, uh, program I use, which is maybe in between those two is called Screen Flow, which is a really nice kind of classic screen recording software for Mac and been using it for many years, and it’s sort of not nearly as complex or sophisticated asinal Cut. But it does allow you to do quite a lot that’s very specific to screen recordings related to use and other software that I work with, and it feels very native, it’s certainly fast, it uses system widgets and that sort of thing, but it also does bring some of its own style to how the timeline is shown, how you interact with, you kind of slice and slice the video clips, and what happens, you know, they do a little icon of a rabbit when you are doing a sped up clip and a little icon of a turtle and it’s slowed down. So I think that’s kind of a nice example from an indie shop. 00:38:57 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that’s a good way to do it in general, to sort of infuse the uniqueness and branding into the components that make your app special anyway, like yeah, for a video editor, that’s like the timeline and specific settings for it, but then try to use system components whenever you have more standard options. 00:39:15 - Speaker 2: So two interesting apps I’d love to reflect on here are Sketch and Nova. So both of them have essentially worked native in the concept of being a native app into their marketing, which is unusual because I think that’s typically seen as more of a technology term or a kind of an insider jargon. That sketch, for example, has this beautiful article titled Part of Your World, Why We’re proud to have Built a truly native Mac app, and then Nova right on their homepage, they talk about a native Mac code editor and why that’s better, and basically all of their value proposition is around why being native is a better experience for the end user. I think your users of both of those pieces of software, Leonard, I’d be curious your take on those specifically and sort of presenting it as a user benefit in their marketing. 00:40:06 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like for sketch, it’s certainly a unique selling point, especially since they are an app for designers, and I think a lot of designers still do care about that craftsmanship that is in the native app and like prefer using native apps. And so I feel like they specifically sort of have to lean on that. But then on the other end you have FIMA, which is not native and it’s still doing great, right? Like it’s a very fast app. The first time I heard of it was because Sketch was actually really slow and like crashing a lot with large files while on Figma, the same sort of designed files were just completely smooth. So they still managed to, in terms of performance be similar. In terms of the design of the interface, they are very similar to sketch, like you don’t have to adapt too much. And at least over the last few years, it feels like Figma just has gotten a lot better than Sketch at developing new features and basically making a better app faster than Sketch can make an app that supports collaboration and the web, basically. 00:41:08 - Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that brings us nicely into the business side of this, which is kind of the last piece I wanted to talk about which. Maybe the sketch figma thing is something we’re seeing play out throughout the industry, which is FIA can start with something that is maybe worse in some perspectives because it’s not native, but they’re able to reach a wider audience, they’re able to offer these sharing and collaboration features that in turn, and those things are both valuable enough, they can essentially earn more money or attract more investment dollars. They can use that to hire an unbelievably good engineering team that have done. Just really remarkable things with using the web platform through web assembly and other quite impressive tricks, and therefore more or less keep up with and maybe even in some cases beat sketch on some elements like performance, obviously things like integration the system APIs will just never be possible. But maybe those aren’t quite valuable enough to users, at least not in comparison to being available on every platform by default and the kind of sharing and collaboration features and so then that naturally creates a flywheel where they can earn more, they can get more investment and then they can make the product that much better. So to me, it comes to a tough question for us, the software makers and all software creators have to consider the same thing, which is we can sit here and say we love the crafts personship and the design work and the performance of native applications, but then if we look at the industry, I wonder, is that kind of a bad bet? Are we sort of picking the losing side? 00:42:38 - Speaker 1: OK, a few thoughts here. I do think that the center of gravity of how software is implemented in terms of the language, the platform, the deployment is going to be determined by the economics and right now the best economics in the industry are an enterprise software. There’s also a consumer software which we can talk about, but let. Focus on enterprise. One of the things that enterprise buyers care about, it’s uniformity and ease of distribution, control, security, ability to facilitate collaboration, which is almost a definition of an enterprise, right? And these are things that the web really excels at. So to my mind, Sigma was better than Sketch for enterprises because the things that enterprises value were just more aligned with how the web works, you know, that Sketch might have had better native API integration. It’s almost like not even wrong. It’s just not what the enterprises, I think we’re looking at when they were looking to buy software to support collaborative design, right? So I do think it’s a really tough sell for classic native apps into the enterprise. Now there is another market which you might call independent creative professionals, and these buyers value different things. They don’t necessarily care about uniformity of distribution and control by someone else in anti-fe and say what they want is. Powerful tools that are shaped to their needs and workflow that they can deploy on their platform of choice, and that give them a lot of abilities and that are kind of unique to them as a creator. And so I do think you see these tools succeed with this platform choice with things like sublime text or even something like Final Cut Pro. But there’s this asterisk of success is different because the market is much smaller. That’s just the way the market is right now. The ability to price these things is significantly lower than enterprise software, so that is what it is. So I think it’s not so much that one is better than the other is that they’re aligned with different markets and the markets are of different size, and I mentioned consumer briefly. Now consumer, I would actually say is better for natives, in particular, it’s better for iOS, which is the main platform in terms of money. And their consumers actually really value performance and integration with their phone with things like contacts and so forth, and so there you do see native apps winning. One other thing that I’ll say here is I do think that sounds maybe a little bit bleak for native apps. There is the consumer positive and of course there’s this independent creative professional positive that we’re targeting with Muse. I do think that there are a lot of sensibilities from native apps that you can pull into apps that are distributed over the web, because I mentioned that these axes are somewhat independent. So one of my favorite examples and sorry notion, I’m gonna pick on you again, we do it because we love you. Notion search is really slow. You type a sync, which is something that we’re working on now, and it takes like 5 seconds to show you a result. And that’s not because of native versus web, like whether it’s written in JavaScript or objective C. It’s slow because it’s going to a remote server and like scanning notions entire database for stuff. My sync, where if instead it worked like a local app where just loaded all the data in memory and scanned everything I’ve ever written, they could do that in 10 milliseconds, right? That’s an example where you could have something distributed over the web with something like an electron app, but they had more of this native slash local first sensibility and gave you some of those benefits. So it’s not all bleak. 00:45:38 - Speaker 2: Yeah, well, as you said, that comes back to the data question and so it’s less about, you could have a native app that was mostly doing things through APIs to cloud backend, and yeah, every time you need to do a quick search, it has to go, you know, round trip to the cloud. But you would also have a web technologies app that has much more local stuff. I think it was something like Kevin Lynasiner is one good example where he wrote the thing in Rust. He had the goal of 60 frames per second. It’s a nice blog post about that, I’ll link, and it’s really all about looking stuff up on your local system, and he used web technologies because that’s what he’s good at using, and you can make them fast if you want to, but it really is about the data locality more than how the software is built, let’s say. I think another important question on the business side is the platform creator and what their incentives are. So, we’ve definitely seen this and talked about it a little bit with being a prosumer iPad app, means that you’ve got the App Store with the heavy-handed review. And the pretty limited things that you can do inside the application, and a lot of things you inherit from App Store economics, which are really all about consumer, but makes it harder to do a subscription prosumer piece of software, for example, and probably Apple’s incentives are such that that’s not super likely to change because the iPhone is their big product and the App Store is made to serve that, basically. And then similarly, you might have something like Google, which has platforms like Android or Chrome OS, but you know, when you look at their business empire, those are not primarily moneymakers for them, they’re primarily channels to get you into the places they actually make money, which is, for example, having you do searches and serving you ads. And even Microsoft famously in many ways the most successful platform maker of all time, as we talked about that 90s computing platform Monopoly, they, as of a few years back, basically deemphasized Windows that when Satya came on as CEO, basically said, look, Windows is Microsoft’s past, it’s still a piece of our business, we need to create it and make it good, but it’s not their big focus and it’s not their big moneymaker. So then the Individual platforms in terms of what they want to incentivize with developers, in terms of how they, how you distribute apps, how they allow or enable you to make money or not make money through the apps. Certainly things like app stores, what APIs are provided, all of that plays into dynamics about what kind of software can get created, and it really does feel to me like the web. Ends up being the best, not just for enterprise for the reasons you said, Mark, but even this more prosumer world of things, you know, I think we see this kind of tools for thought, space, you know, that includes the notions and figmas of the world, but also something like Rome or obsidian, for example. Yeah, it’s just the web is I don’t know, superhuman or linear. These apps by being on the web, they get maximum control, they get ease of distribution, and they get to charge money without an intermediary, and that’s just a very powerful thing for business. 00:48:46 - Speaker 1: Yeah, yet another important idea in this political economy of software that we’ve been talking about a few times on this podcast. I think that’s an important like. 00:48:55 - Speaker 3: And I think even if we assume naively that the goal of every company is just to create the best app possible, even then native apps become less and less a good choice, the more devices you want to support. And so as Mark said, enterprise companies just need to support many devices. And so if you try to do native apps for all of these, like that’s not gonna be possible. You won’t be able to really create a good experience across like 10 different platforms and device factors, right? And so I think that’s why we often see native apps more with smaller companies that may be focused on, yeah, either a single user environment where you don’t need to support many different platforms and ideally even an environment like Apple’s platforms where you have the Mac, the iPad, and the iPhone, or even the Apple Watch, all kinds. sharing some APIs and the code base and some design language so that a few people can reasonably keep it all in the head and sort of design and build a good product for all of these platforms, and that sort of approach doesn’t really work anymore for larger enterprise companies where you need to have apps on many different devices. 00:50:04 - Speaker 1: And now that we’re talking about this, I got another riff, so we talked about how perhaps enterprises tend to choose web because there’s all this collaboration amongst the members of the enterprise, which in fact is almost the definition of an enterprise, but increasingly you could say we’re all part of the enterprise of like the software community, and this is a little bit of a joke, but here’s what I mean. It used to be that you would like go to the software store and you would buy a box with Excel and you would install it and you would try to learn it yourself, and that was kind of that. But now we’re in a much more networked community. So for example, If you are doing design, you might want access to a plug-in that was authored by someone else on the internet and to be able to install it. Well, by the way, it’s a lot easier if you’re using FIMA, or it just might be that you want to look at a YouTube tutorial of how to do something. I said several times in this podcast that YouTube is very important, and if your product is available on essentially all devices, there’s more likely to be good YouTube content, so there’s this big positive externality that feeds back in. So this is kind of me partially trying to understand why it is that what Adam just said was true about the web also seems appealing for what looked like in one sense to be individuals, but even there there’s an element of community and participation. 00:51:10 - Speaker 2: One item might be remiss to leave out in the business discussion was there was a bit of a kerfuffle, I might say in the iOS slash Apple developer community when OnePassword, which is one of the more successful password managers, announced that they were switching from their native built password manager on the Mac to one built on what’s basically web technologies, it’s like Rust and Electron, I think. 00:51:34 - Speaker 1: I was going to give them as an example of a good native app earlier. 00:51:37 - Speaker 2: Exactly, so the Twitter discussions that followed were essentially, OK, you got this shining example of an indie software company that has created a lovingly crafted and well designed native app for many years, you know, there’s many password managers, but one password is successful largely on the strength of the look and feel and performance that feels very native and feels very integrated, particularly with Apple stuff. And then they essentially raised a big round of venture capital and immediately thereafter switched their previously native app to these web technologies and people felt betrayed, or that it was some kind of a harbinger for the future of native apps generally and maybe Mac specifically. And they ended up doing a follow-up blog post that I’ll link in the show notes that was interesting about essentially the engineering management and business decisions they made that led up to that, and some of them are just some specific things related to exactly where the platform APIs are in the moment. But maybe it does come back to that question of when you’re trying to serve the widest possible audience, and you’ve got an engineering team and it’s just a good business decision, even when you’ve got a pretty big engineering team, you think, can’t you afford folks to build native apps on all these platforms and actually just makes more sense to have this unified code base and less to support. So we’ve talked about the technology side and the cost of building the apps, we’ve talked about the design and user experience, we talked about the business. Are there any other aspects of native versus non-native that are notable to touch on here? 00:53:06 - Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like one of overlooked aspect is accessibility. That’s kind of a big victim of non-native apps where accessibility really depends on system features, right? Like you wanna be able to set in the system settings what you need and rely on these features that providers like Apple built across the system and not, you can’t fine tune these settings for every single app and you can’t. Rely on every single developer building like a complete suite of accessibility features. That’s just not going to happen. And so for that system to work, you kind of need native apps that can support these native APIs and build with accessibility in mind and non-native apps just can’t really do that. And there isn’t usually time to build custom implementations for non-native apps for accessibility. 00:53:55 - Speaker 1: That is an interesting one. I’ve been thinking about this in the back of my mind because the type of non-native technology that I’m most excited about is the setup where you have a high performance language that you compile down to a very narrow runtime, like the rust slashwam style, for example, where you write the app in a high performance language, it compiles down to what is basically like a web native binary, and then you can run that wherever you want. But there’s only a very thin API between what becomes the application and the platform, in contrast to the usual thing where there’s like a whole windowing system and tool kit and widgets and everything that the platform provides. And yeah, in that world in particular, you implement your very high performance text editor, but then what people can’t, you know, highlight the text so they can’t have it spoken to them or whatever. It’s tough. One thing I wonder though is, can you separate a little bit the platform hooks for accessibility from the implementation. So to take the example of text size, one way to do that is there is a platform standard text implementation, which I’m sure there is on Mac and iOS, and if you use that, it automatically scales the text up and down according to whatever. The user has set in the universal text size settings, but it could also be that there’s a thing you can call which is like get current text size, and then in your own implementation of text you could scale the text accordingly and yes, it’s gonna be harder and less likely people do it, but it’s still potentially possible, especially if there are various other libraries and other library options for UI widgeting. So yeah, it’s tough. One other question I have is what do games do because games are typically implemented in this way where you have basically the game takes over the whole screen and does whatever it wants, including different ways of rendering texts and so forth. So I kind of wonder what they do. It’s probably a lot of just don’t support accessibility, but maybe there’s a fire right there. 00:55:40 - Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it just ends up being a custom implementation per game, so whether it’s color blind mode, or changing the text size or different kind of input controls, there’s a good game maker’s tool kit video, I’ll link to that. But yeah, essentially it’s all up to the developer, which often means that smaller indie games just can’t or don’t have the resources to support that, but of course the AAA games have these massive budgets and massive teams, is both possible and really in their business interests, because once you’re going to a wide enough audience, then even a small percentage of people that have a particular type of color blindness to pick one example of an accessibility area, that actually represents a pretty good number of customers for you. Well, maybe as a closing point, we’ve talked all about the pros and cons. I think it sounds like we come down personally pretty strongly in favor of native, but we also see where business wise that might be a more questionable thing as the world evolves. So I’d love to hear from each of you and maybe I have my own answer. Why are we making news for Mac and why not use for the web? 00:56:48 - Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I actually don’t have a very dogmatic answer to that. It’s that we had a few key desiderata for the Muse, let’s call it desktop app, you know, the thing that you’re going to run on your Mac, and the two main options for implementing that would be a maybe the three options would be a classic native app, an electron app, and a web app. And there’s things like performance, but a huge thing for us was access to the file system to be able to do a local first work, which basically eliminates the web option, really you’re left with electron and classic native and I do think the performance is quite a bit better for a classic native, and also we have this potential to share a lot of code between the iOS app and the desktop app, so there was a clear path to implementing it. So that’s why I would have thought about it. 00:57:31 - Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, the answer is also all about performance and that also connects to the local first or local data storage. Again, you can do that with electronic web technologies, but I feel like it’s more of a reach. The electron app that uses local storage. It’