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From GTM Live:This week on GTM Live, Carolyn sits down with Megan Bowen, CEO of Refine Labs, to unpack why so many B2B companies are pouring budget into paid media, and still missing revenue targets.They break down what's really going wrong: not too much paid media, but too much spend on a strategy that doesn't convert. Pipeline is down. Revenue is down. And yet, the response is often to spend more, not better.You'll hear why performance marketing often fails to deliver real outcomes, how misaligned KPIs drive bad decisions, and what separates newer, agile companies from legacy players still running outdated GTM playbooks.Megan shares insights from working with dozens of growth-stage companies and how leadership mindset, speed of iteration, and willingness to challenge old assumptions can make or break your demand strategy.If you've been trying to defend paid spend, or wondering why results are flat despite doing “all the right things”, this episode is for you.Key topics in this episode:Why paid media often fails to convert to pipeline or revenueThe difference between new-school and old-school GTM teamsWhy optimizing for MQLs leads to the wrong outcomesHow to rethink measurement for real demand captureWhat high-performing growth teams do differentlyThis episode is powered by Passetto. We help high-growth and equity-backed companies turn GTM data into better decisions, faster. We unify your GTM and financial data, identify your growth levers, and help you scale. Part SaaS, part advisory. Visit passetto.com.
This podcast features Ryan Fitzgerald, an affiliate industry expert at AWIN, discussing various aspects of affiliate marketing. Key takeaways include the importance of initially working with all publisher types to build brand equity, AWIN's global reach and commitment to a publisher-centric approach, and Fitzgerald's sales leadership focusing on educating and mentoring SMBs. He emphasizes the need for transparency and data-driven decision-making in affiliate marketing, particularly for convincing C-suite executives of its value. Fitzgerald also shares insights into his team's success strategy, focusing on deal closure, self-education, and organization, and offers advice for brands on time commitment and agency utilization. The conversation touches upon AWIN's ShareASale integration, bringing modernized technology to a large existing client base. Finally, Fitzgerald shares personal insights, including book and movie recommendations, and advice for fathers.
Irish digital marketing agency Vroom Digital has been recognised at the 2025 European Search Awards, taking home two category wins for work delivered in partnership with EPIC The Irish Emigration Museum. The awards ceremony took place earlier this month in Krakow, Poland, bringing together Europe's leading agencies to celebrate innovation in digital search and performance marketing. Recognised as a benchmark of excellence across the industry, the European Search Awards honour outstanding work in SEO, paid media, and digital PR. Vroom Digital took home two major awards for standout campaigns created in partnership with EPIC The Irish Emigration Museum. Competing against agencies from across Europe, the team secured Best Use of PR in a Search Campaign for The Love Story Before 'Love Story': Driving Links Through PR & Storytelling, a campaign that paired emotional narrative with a strategic digital PR approach. They also won Best Use of Social Media in a Search Campaign for The EPIC Untold Story Behind Fairytale of New York, which tapped into nostalgia and platform-specific creative to drive engagement and boost search visibility. Both campaigns were executed in close collaboration with EPIC The Irish Emigration Museum, combining emotional storytelling, strategic PR, and targeted digital distribution to drive meaningful engagement and improve search performance. Shane Curtin, CEO & Founder of Vroom Digital, said, "We're incredibly proud to see these campaigns recognised on a European stage. It's a true testament to the strength of our partnership with EPIC and their creative partners, Public House, and the collaborative thinking that drives success on all sides. At Vroom, we've built a team that thrives on delivering culturally relevant, performance-led campaigns - and these awards reflect our commitment to meaningful storytelling that delivers real results. Working with EPIC gave us the opportunity to push creative and strategic boundaries, and to show the impact that smart, well-executed digital - across PR and paid media - can truly have when driven by insight and intention." The agency continues to strengthen its reputation for delivering integrated digital campaigns that balance creativity with performance. These European Search Award wins follow recent recognition at The Spider Awards, Ireland's longest-running digital awards, where Vroom received the Grand Prix and Best in Storytelling award. Vroom Digital delivers tailored SEO, Paid Media, and Digital PR strategies that help clients cut through the noise, build a stronger online presence, and drive measurable growth. See more stories here.
Marketing Leadership Podcast: Strategies From Wise D2C & B2B Marketers
Dots Oyebolu and Cory Henke, Founder and CEO of Variable Media, discuss modern paid media intelligence. Cory shares insights from his journey via major agencies and platforms to build a data-first paid media agency. He unpacks the challenges and philosophies around attribution and campaign measurement and explains how business intelligence tools like Power BI help brands unlock deeper visibility into what really drives performance. Key Takeaways:(01:20) Cory's marketing journey.(04:36) Marketers who rely solely on in-platform data miss the bigger picture — merging CRM, web analytics and ad platforms reveals deeper insights.(07:51) Cory believes that attribution is unsolvable because great outcomes stem from many variables.(09:50) In a dynamic ad landscape, Cory emphasizes having a conservative projection and a flexible testing strategy.(11:16) For new brands, organic growth should precede paid media — proving demand without ad spend is key to long-term success.(13:03) Attribution models are biased by platform incentives; YouTube, for instance, creates halo effects that platforms often credit to search.(16:28) Cory's team customizes attribution by extracting campaign data from multiple platforms, merging it via Power BI for clearer performance storytelling.(21:31) CPM is Cory's favorite marketing metric — unlike other KPIs, it reveals raw costs and helps evaluate the efficiency of reach, regardless of engagement.(27:42) Staying top of mind and testing new formats is key as digital advertising continues to evolve beyond traditional performance metrics.Resources Mentioned:Cory Henkehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/coryhenke/Variable Media | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/variable-media/Variable Media | Websitehttps://variable.media/Power BIhttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/power-platform/products/power-biCory Henke on Twitterhttps://twitter.com/CoryHenkeInsightful Links:https://online.mason.wm.edu/blog/data-analytics-in-digital-marketinghttps://www.akkio.com/post/business-intelligence-in-marketinghttps://www.netsuite.com/portal/resource/articles/erp/business-intelligence-strategy.shtmlThanks for listening to the “Marketing Leadership” podcast, brought to you by Listen Network. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.We appreciate the enthusiasm and support from our community. Currently, we are not accepting new guest interview requests as we focus on our existing lineup. We will announce when we reopen for new submissions. In the meantime, feel free to explore our past episodes and stay tuned for updates on future opportunities.#PodcastMarketing #PerformanceMarketing #BrandMarketing #MarketingStrategy #MarketingIntelligence #GTM #B2BMarketing #D2CMarketing #PodcastAds
In this episode, Gael Goasdoue, COO and co-founder of Redcorp, breaks down the evolving role of PPC and paid media in the affiliate and iGaming industries. He emphasizes the critical importance of having the right infrastructure—like CRM systems and real-time data—to avoid wasting budgets and scale effectively. Gael also shares a roadmap for SEO affiliates entering the paid space, including regulatory awareness, campaign strategy, and budget management. The conversation closes with insights into the growing demand for transparency, data-driven decisions, and the indispensable role of business intelligence in the future of affiliate marketing.
This podcast episode features Vinod Varma, founder and CEO of Creator Co., discussing the evolving landscape of social commerce. Varma defines social commerce as the next wave of influencer marketing, enabled by expired Amazon patents, and highlights TikTok Shop's leading role due to its seamless user experience. Creator Co. helps brands navigate this space by providing technical setup and access to a vast influencer network. The conversation touches upon the potential of other platforms like YouTube, YouTube Shorts, and the surprisingly underutilized Pinterest, emphasizing the platform's aspirational and positive nature. A key theme is the importance of authenticity in influencer marketing, particularly in the age of AI, and the need for improved attribution models and transparency in influencer compensation to address concerns arising from browser extensions like Honey.
This week on GTM Live, Carolyn sits down with Megan Bowen, CEO of Refine Labs, to unpack why so many B2B companies are pouring budget into paid media, and still missing revenue targets.They break down what's really going wrong: not too much paid media, but too much spend on a strategy that doesn't convert. Pipeline is down. Revenue is down. And yet, the response is often to spend more, not better.You'll hear why performance marketing often fails to deliver real outcomes, how misaligned KPIs drive bad decisions, and what separates newer, agile companies from legacy players still running outdated GTM playbooks.Megan shares insights from working with dozens of growth-stage companies and how leadership mindset, speed of iteration, and willingness to challenge old assumptions can make or break your demand strategy.If you've been trying to defend paid spend, or wondering why results are flat despite doing “all the right things”, this episode is for you.Key topics in this episode:Why paid media often fails to convert to pipeline or revenueThe difference between new-school and old-school GTM teamsWhy optimizing for MQLs leads to the wrong outcomesHow to rethink measurement for real demand captureWhat high-performing growth teams do differentlyThis episode is powered by Passetto. We help high-growth and equity-backed companies turn GTM data into better decisions, faster. We unify your GTM and financial data, identify your growth levers, and help you scale. Part SaaS, part advisory. Visit passetto.com.
Jordan Koene, CEO & Founder of Previsible.io, breaks down how AI is reshaping the SEO landscape. As tools like ChatGPT provide direct answers, many websites are seeing noticeable drops in organic traffic—ranging from 10% to as much as 90%, depending on the industry and keyword.This shift is happening quickly and requires a thoughtful response. Jordan explains why it's important for brands to focus on becoming trustworthy sources within AI ecosystems, addressing inaccuracies in AI-generated content, and leaning into unique brand assets. He also emphasizes the need to shift from broad outreach to more targeted strategies on platforms where the audience is most active.AI isn't replacing jobs, but it's changing them—making skill development and retraining a priority. The future of SEO will center around helpful, relevant content, deeper personalization, and multimedia formats like video that build trust and engage users.The key is to move from reactive to prescriptive marketing by focusing on serving specific audience needs within the evolving limitations of AI.
This podcast features a conversation between two performance marketing experts with 20+ years of experience, discussing the evolving landscape of digital marketing. Svet, with a background at Stanford, McKinsey, and Nextag, shares his insights on leveraging first-principle thinking and algorithmic understanding to optimize marketing campaigns across B2B, e-commerce, and local service businesses. Key themes include the importance of rigorous testing, overcoming common data measurement mistakes (like under-tagging and misaligned attribution), and adapting to the increasing influence of AI and automation in paid search. The discussion highlights the ongoing relevance of keywords despite Google's shift towards AI-driven contextual search, the untapped potential of Bing Ads for B2B marketers, and the crucial need for marketers to develop a "hacker mentality" and deep technical skills to thrive in this rapidly changing environment. Svet also recommends utilizing AI tools effectively, studying AI models, and understanding the underlying algorithms to gain a competitive edge.
In this episode of SmartBug on Tap, “From Guesswork to Greatness: Paid Media in the AI Era,” we dive into how AI is transforming digital advertising—and what marketers need to know to stay competitive. Join Paul Schmidt, VP of Marketing at SmartBug, and Louis-Claude Martin, a seasoned paid media expert at SmartBug, as they unpack the real impact of AI on campaign strategy, targeting, and performance. From the power of first-party data to the evolving role of media managers, this episode reveals how to shift from manual guesswork to data-backed greatness in the age of AI.
In this episode, Brendan Regan, Senior Director of Lifestyle/Lifecycle Marketing at Smartsheet, shares his strategic, multi-channel approach to engaging both enterprise and SaaS customers. He explains how Smartsheet blends digital programs with human touchpoints—such as customer success reps and account executives—to optimize acquisition, retention, and monetization. Brendan discusses key growth levers they've tested, including freemium conversion, upgrades, seat expansion, and cross-sell/upsell tactics, all rooted in a data-driven, experimental mindset. He also explores the benefits and challenges of Product-Led Growth (PLG) and Product-Led Sales (PLS), highlighting how A/B testing and propensity modeling support smarter decision-making. Among his most surprising learnings: onboarding plays a larger role in expansion than expected, and simple, sales-driven heuristics can be remarkably effective in cross-selling. Brendan wraps up with valuable advice for B2B SaaS companies—avoid silos, don't fall into copycat marketing, and never underinvest in technology. Mastering your martech stack and integrating it properly, he emphasizes, is essential for impactful customer communication.
Send us a textIn this episode, Danny sits down with LinkedIn Ads expert AJ Wilcox to dive into his marketing journey, his views on mentorship, and his laser-sharp insights into B2B advertising on LinkedIn.AJ shares how a passion for teaching and authentic connection laid the foundation for B2Linked, an industry-leading agency for LinkedIn Ads. He discusses the power of mentorship, from hiking with his boss's boss to mentoring rising marketers in Utah, and shares the advertising strategies that generate real ROI.Episode Highlights: AJ explains why he left SEO and Google Ads behind to become a LinkedIn Ads specialist focused on high-quality B2B leads.He shares how weekly mentorship hikes evolved into a career-boosting tradition for local digital marketers.Learn the essential elements of effective LinkedIn targeting and why deeper funnel strategies outperform surface metrics.Discover the benefits of combining mentorship with marketing expertise—AJ shares his advice for building both.AJ compares native LinkedIn Lead Gen Forms vs. landing pages, and how to pick the right tool for your campaign goals.Episode Links:
Dive into how AgeTech companies can build effective, ROI-driven paid media campaigns—even with a lean marketing budget. SmartBug's Senior Sales Executive, Tonia Speir, sits down with Briana Greer, Director of Paid Media at SmartBug, to explore how to prioritize platforms, optimize spend, and avoid common pitfalls in early go-to-market (GTM) efforts. Whether you're targeting adult children, seniors, caregivers, or B2B buyers such as healthcare professionals or senior living execs, this conversation offers a blueprint for smarter advertising decisions.
This podcast features Kayla Hamilton, who is the affiliate marketing manager of Sage. The discussion centers on Sage's B2B SaaS affiliate marketing strategy within the FinTech vertical. Key topics include the challenges and successes of building a year-old affiliate program, targeting high-value executives, the importance of internal collaboration between marketing, sales, and PR teams, leveraging AI for forecasting, content creation, and data analysis, and the crucial role of data-driven decision-making in optimizing partner performance and achieving scalable growth. Hamilton emphasizes the need for a holistic approach, aligning product offerings with partner audiences, hyper-targeting growing SMBs, and focusing on quality leads over volume. She also highlights the importance of understanding the nuances of medium-sized business (M) marketing and the value of non-traditional sub-affiliates and industry-focused partners. The conversation concludes with Hamilton's recommendations for further learning and personal insights.
Feel like you're doing everything to grow your podcast, yet still not seeing the momentum you want? In this episode, I'm completing the series all about podcast growth. Today, I'm sharing the podcast marketing framework that will lead you to sustainable and scalable podcast growth. Today's episode is brought to you by Mic Check Society, our community for podcasters who are looking to take their podcast from good to great. Come join us for educational trainings, a private member's only community, and monthly calls! Get $10 off per month with code PODCAST at micchecksociety.com. Clocking In with Haylee Gaffin is produced by Gaffin Creative, a podcast production company for creative entrepreneurs. Learn more about our services at Gaffincreative.com, plus you'll also find resources, show notes, and more for the Clocking In Podcast.Time-stamps: Your brand foundation (2:19)Leverage your existing audience (8:12)Expand your reach through collaborations (10:38)Invest in paid growth and advertising (12:41)Build a sustainable and scalable long-term growth engine (14:57)Mentioned in This Episode:Episode 167 Paid Media: gaffincreative.com/167-how-to-maximize-your-podcast-growth-with-paid-media/Episode 166 Collaboration: gaffincreative.com/166-grow-your-podcast-audience-through-collaborationEpisode 165 Organic Growth: gaffincreative.com/organic-growth-maximizing-your-existing-audienceEpisode 164 Foundations of Podcast Growth: gaffincreative.com/164-foundations-of-podcast-growth-grow-your-podcast-series-pt-1Mic Check Society: gaffincreative.com/mcsInstagram: instagram.com/hayleegaffinConnect with Haylee:instagram.com/hayleegaffinGaffincreative.commicchecksociety.comReview the Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/bX2BSl5YPbn Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This podcast features Vanessa Lawrence, Chief Content Officer at Linkby, an ad tech platform connecting brands with premium publishers using a CPC model. Linkby operates globally and has recently expanded into Europe. The platform's success is attributed to its measurable approach, fast turnaround, and no upfront costs for brands. Linkbee complements existing publisher revenue streams (CPA, flat fee) rather than replacing them, emphasizing diversification and experimentation. The platform offers access to a wide range of publishers, from major media outlets to newsletter creators and Substack writers. A key differentiator is Linkbee's focus on publisher authority and trust, recognizing that brands are paying for more than just ad placement. Lawrence discusses Linkby's innovative "publisher pitches" feature, which allows publishers to proactively pitch brands, and highlights the importance of data and third-party validation in their operations. The conversation also touches on Lawrence's background, her role at Linkby, and her passion for helping publishers diversify their revenue streams.
Welcome to another week of Have You Herd, the social media podcast where our Co-Founder & CEO, Zoe, sits with our team of specialists to talk about all things marketing
If you're serious about taking your podcast to the next level, it's time to talk about paid growth. While organic strategies (like tapping into your current audience or collaborating with others) are powerful foundations, there may come a point when you need an extra boost to reach new listeners faster.That's where strategic paid growth comes in — and it's not just about throwing money at ads and hoping for the best. Done well, paid strategies can supercharge your podcast audience without feeling like you're wasting your budget.Today's episode is brought to you by Mic Check Society, our community for podcasters who are looking to take their podcast from good to great. Come join us for educational trainings, a private member's only community, and monthly calls! Get $10 off per month with code PODCAST at micchecksociety.com. Clocking In with Haylee Gaffin is produced by Gaffin Creative, a podcast production company for creative entrepreneurs. Learn more about our services at Gaffincreative.com, plus you'll also find resources, show notes, and more for the Clocking In Podcast.Podcast Details: Why consider paid growth opportunities? (2:30)Podcast player ads (4:04)Social media advertising (10:22)Sponsorships (13:52) Podcast Resources:Episode 166 Collaboration: gaffincreative.com/166-grow-your-podcast-audience-through-collaboration/Episode 165 Organic Growth: gaffincreative.com/organic-growth-maximizing-your-existing-audience/Episode 164 Foundations of Podcast Growth: gaffincreative.com/164-foundations-of-podcast-growth-grow-your-podcast-series-pt-1/Mic Check Society: gaffincreative.com/mcsConnect with Haylee:instagram.com/hayleegaffinGaffincreative.commicchecksociety.comTranscript: https://share.descript.com/view/ZSMrUj89q2l Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, fintech affiliate marketing expert Lawrence Sarpong shares insights from years of hands-on experience in the space. He breaks down how fintech affiliate marketing stands apart from the broader industry — with a stronger focus on customer education and solving very specific financial needs.Lawrence dives into best practices for building a strong affiliate program, from choosing the right platform (he gives a big nod to Impact) to cultivating genuine, long-term relationships with partners. He emphasizes that authenticity beats flashy influencer deals, especially in fintech where trust is everything.He also walks us through a powerful online-to-offline campaign that drove real revenue and explains why social media is becoming more critical than ever in affiliate marketing.Other highlights include common mistakes to avoid (like overlooking partner fit or dropping the ball on communication), plus some personal reflections — including his favorite travel spots and how he thrives as an introvert in a relationship-driven industry.
How has PPC and paid media evolved—and what skills do marketers need to thrive in an era of automation, AI, and emerging platforms?In this episode, PMW's News Reporter Reem Makari speaks with Clotilde de La Noue, Acting Head of Digital and Performance Marketing at the Financial Times; Lydia Wigley, Paid Media Strategy Director at Croud; and Tom Chandler, Founder of The Digital Lighthouse. Together, they explore the shift from manual to automated processes, the importance of cross-channel collaboration, and the growing role of machine learning in paid search.They also reflect on the challenges of convincing senior leaders to invest in new platforms like TikTok; why traditional PPC skills like testing and rigor still matter; and how marketers can better communicate complex strategies to different stakeholders. Plus, they share predictions for the future of performance marketing and tackle some common myths about PPC and paid media.~ Episode breakdown ~(2:27 – 6:53) Evolution of PPC: From manual bidding to AI integration(6:53 – 11:59) Challenges, opportunities, and the value of traditional PPC skills(11:59 – 22:17) Cross-channel collaboration and communicating with senior leaders(22:17 – end) Future trends, emerging platforms, and myth or fact: PPC edition~ Further reading ~Pay Per Click (PPC)Performance driven paid media the most critical investment for 62% of marketersGoogle or Meta? The best way to spend your paid media budget during peak Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This episode features Jason Fuentes, a seasoned affiliate marketer and active member of the Austin tech community, now working with Wildfire. Wildfire specializes in white-labeling loyalty and rewards platforms for businesses, particularly within the financial sector, helping them boost revenue and engagement through shopping companions like Capital One Shopping. These tools offer cashback, rewards, and coupons while preserving user privacy by avoiding predictive advertising. Instead, Wildfire focuses on highlighting existing benefits within users' shopping experiences. Jason shares insights into the recent launch of the Wildfire Commerce Network, a retail media network that enables partner apps to drive transactions through strategic partnerships. The conversation also explores Jason's background in ad tech, his life with three dogs, and his love for Costa Rican beaches.
Kareem Elgendy is the Chief Executive Officer of Veiled, an eight-figure fashion brand for Muslim women. Under his leadership, Veiled has achieved impressive growth, with consistent revenue increases and a strong emphasis on analytics to optimize the company's ecommerce strategy. Kareem previously served as a Senior Marketing Strategist at Baked Bouquet and held project management roles at Frank Seta & Associates. His multifaceted background, including roles as a sustainability expert, software engineer, and unit manager in banking, adds a unique perspective to his approach in the fashion industry. In this episode… Ecommerce founders often face mounting pressure to make quick decisions without clear data, leading to stalled growth and missed opportunities. From inconsistent revenues to underperforming SKUs, using analytics to guide merchandising and marketing plans can make a huge impact on profitability. What if you could cut through the noise and confidently steer your brand using data-driven insights tailored to your business? Kareem Elgendy, an expert in ecommerce analytics and merchandising, shares how a strategic focus on data dashboards and inventory insights has helped his brand grow consistently — surpassing 70% year-over-year growth. Kareem emphasizes the importance of understanding every metric inside and out, using internal scripts, Google Cloud tools, and custom dashboards to analyze traffic, stock velocity, and product demand. He outlines a practical merchandising framework that breaks down collections by category, style, color, and size, ensuring supply aligns with proven demand. Kareem's approach emphasizes the importance of founders remaining curious and optimistic about what their numbers reveal. In this episode of the Minds of Ecommerce podcast, Raphael Paulin-Daigle interviews Kareem Elgendy, CEO of Veiled, about leveraging analytics to drive fashion ecommerce growth. Kareem shares how data-informed merchandising decisions lead to more consistent revenue and dives into daily performance tracking, marketing efficiency, and forecasting demand using internal algorithms.
In this episode, Tye DeGrange is joined by Udi Ledergor to dive into Udi's new book, "Courageous Marketing: The B2B Marketer's Playbook for Career Success," released on April 10th. Drawing from two decades of experience and insights from top CMOs, the book challenges traditional B2B marketing practices and encourages a bold, strategic mindset.The conversation covers key themes like overcoming “death by committee,” prioritizing product-market fit over blindly following so-called best practices, and embracing a human-first approach — even in an AI-driven world. They discuss the power of bold branding (with examples like Gong's distinct visual style) and the importance of tailoring strategies for both the 5% actively in-market and the 95% who aren't — known as the “95.5 rule.”Other highlights include building trust through authentic content and personal branding, using frameworks like RAPID for faster decisions in big teams, and leaning into courageous marketing that solves real problems and creates lasting brand impressions — even if they're not always easy to measure.
So, you've got a killer product… Now what?In this episode, Purdy & Figg co-CEOs Jack and Charlie Rubin explain how they grew from £452K to over £50M on a £25 product. Their rapid growth didn't come from luck or cheap hacks, but from an obsession with product uniqueness, customer retention, and brilliant offer design. Thanks to their bold bets, they didn't just scale, they exploded, and they're here today to explain exactly how. They also reveal why they're saying “no” to US expansion (for now) and how sticking with the UK is a power move, not a limitation.If you're a DTC founder, marketer, or operator, this episode's packed with practical gold and growth lessons, so don't miss out.Let's jump right in!Key Takeaways:00:00 Intro 00:16 The main factor for Purdy & Figg's success 02:53 LTV, risk tolerance, and aggressive growth 14:42 The importance of testing in paid media 19:51 Inventory planning and operational challenges28:20 Agency-brand relationships 36:17 Expansion strategy and market entry42:48 Outro Additional Resources:Follow us on X:
In this episode, I sit down with Ryan Pitylak, VP of Growth at NinjaTrader, to talk about the evolving world of performance marketing and how AI is changing the game. We dive into the rise of Google Performance Max and how AI is reshaping ad platforms, why the creator economy and authentic influencer marketing are gaining momentum, and the biggest mistakes growth marketers make—especially when they focus too much on advertising over product fundamentals. Ryan shares why a full-funnel, product-first approach leads to better long-term results, the real role of A/B testing, and what most people get wrong about it. He also emphasizes the importance of aligning your growth strategy with what truly matters: patience, passion, and priorities. Drawing from his journey—from launching startups like Zen Business to leading growth at NinjaTrader—Ryan offers practical advice on resource prioritization and building sustainable marketing strategies in the age of AI. Watch the full conversation now — link in the comments.
In this episode, Nancy Harnett, Head of HubSpot's Affiliate Marketing Program, shares how they transformed their strategy to achieve 2x ROI. By shifting from a broad partnership model to a highly personalized, one-on-one approach, HubSpot was able to build stronger collaborations and drive better performance. She highlights the importance of prioritizing key partners, offering tailored support, and using data-driven testing and rapid iteration to optimize the program. Instead of flat-fee structures, HubSpot focuses on performance-based incentives and treats partnerships as strategic investments, similar to marketing or HR functions. Nancy also discusses the company's powerful tech stack, including HubSpot CRM, Impact, PartnerStack, and AI tools, while emphasizing the need for compliance, fraud prevention, and a customer-centric approach. She explores underutilized partner opportunities, outlines a realistic one-year timeline for building a successful affiliate program, and shares valuable book recommendations such as Nudge and Atomic Habits.
Enjoying the Ecommerce Coffee Break Podcast? Here are a few ways to grow your business: https://ecommercecoffeebreak.com/level-up/ ---In this episode, we're diving into the future of Facebook ads, specifically what 2025 might hold. Manel Gomez, a media buying expert with years of experience and a large ad spend, is our guest. He'll explain how Facebook ad algorithms are changing. We'll also learn the secrets to creating effective ads that grab attention. Plus, we'll discuss how to scale your ad campaigns for better results. Manel shares valuable tips for anyone using online ads. Topics discussed in this episode: Why is Facebook advertising in 2025 different. How has Facebook ad strategy evolved. What matters most in Facebook ads now. How do you structure a winning campaign. What metrics should you track. Why is ad testing crucial for scaling. How can small advertisers scale. What role does AI play in ad success. How do brands scale ad spend. When should you increase ad spend. Links & Resources Website: https://www.metascalingaccelerator.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/manel.gomez/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ManelGomezOfficial/videos Get access to more free resources by visiting the show notes athttps://tinyurl.com/ysnr7vfh MORE RESOURCES Store Optimization Beginners Guide: Instant PDF Download! It's FREE.
Send us a textHello everyone and welcome back to the Marketing Freaks podcast!In this week's episode, I'm talking about the importance of having a plan. This sounds so incredibly obvious, and most of you will indeed have a plan. The problem usually comes with sticking to that plan. Stick around for a chat through how to a) write a better plan and b) how to stick to it! Oh - and if you haven't yet subscribed or left us a review on Apple podcasts…please do, it makes such a big difference!
In this episode, we talk with Sid Nagpal, Director, Customer & Field Marketing at PartnerStack, about the power of community in B2B SaaS marketing. Sid breaks down PartnerStack's four pillars of customer marketing—expansion, engagement, education, and advocacy—highlighting how their thriving community drives success. He discusses the impact of the Stacked Conference and various meetups, emphasizing how community plays a role in every stage of the customer journey. The conversation also explores PartnerStack's partner ecosystem platform (PRM) and its integrations with tools like HubSpot, as well as the rise of B2B creator marketing and the importance of in-person connections for building strong customer relationships. Sid shares personal stories, including his visit to Freshworks India, along with his top book and TV recommendations. He also explains why allocating 20 percent of a marketing budget to community-building initiatives is a strategic investment.
This podcast features Jennifer Rhima, Apollo's Partnerships Lead, discussing strategies for building and scaling B2B SaaS partner programs. She emphasizes enabling partners beyond acquisition, tracking activation metrics, fostering internal collaboration, and leveraging PRM tools like PartnerStack for scalability. Rhima highlights the value of different partner types, the importance of data analysis in measuring partner success, and the challenges of attribution modeling. She also explores the untapped potential of agency partnerships and shares personal book and travel recommendations.
Send us a textIn this episode of Secrets to Scaling Your E-Commerce Brand, Jordan West sits down with returning guest Brett Curry, CEO of OMG Commerce, to dive deep into YouTube ads—one of the most underutilized yet powerful tools for e-commerce brands. If you've been questioning whether YouTube is worth your ad dollars, this episode will change your mind.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why YouTube is the TV of 2025 and how e-commerce brands can leverage itThe truth about incrementality and why last-click attribution is misleadingThe common misconceptions brands have about YouTube adsReal-life case studies of brands scaling profitably on YouTubeA step-by-step breakdown of how to test, optimize, and scale YouTube campaignsWho is Brett Curry? Brett Curry is the CEO & Co-Founder of OMG Commerce, a performance marketing agency specializing in YouTube, Google, Amazon, and retention marketing for high-growth DTC brands and omnichannel retailers. With over a decade of experience helping brands scale profitably, Brett is one of the leading voices in YouTube ads and advanced marketing strategies.He's worked directly with Google, been featured in Google case studies, and has helped countless brands unlock profitable growth through data-driven ad strategies. As a passionate marketer and business leader, Brett believes in blending brand-building with performance marketing—and in this episode, he shares everything you need to know to make YouTube ads work for your brand.Connect with Brett:
In this podcast episode, Pranav Piyush joins the conversation to discuss marketing measurement and incrementality, with a focus on affiliate and influencer marketing. The discussion highlights Media Mix Modeling (MMM) and its growing accessibility through open-source tools and lower costs, positioning it as a key attribution method in the coming decade. The episode explains the difference between attribution and incrementality, contrasting the limitations of multi-touch attribution (MTA) with MMM's cause-and-effect approach. Pranav shares insights on how MMM can help brands assess the impact of various marketing channels, including those that are traditionally difficult to track. Listeners will also gain practical advice on implementing MMM, covering data needs, cost factors, common pitfalls, and real-world success stories. The conversation emphasizes the value of actionable insights and the importance of moving beyond basic dashboards to achieve meaningful business growth.
Meta is shaking things up again with new regulations affecting payor advertising. In this episode, Jenny and Miranda, Hedy & Hopp's Director of Paid Media, break down Meta's updates to the financial products and services category, including new targeting restrictions, and how broad location radius requirements and inclusive demographic rules are reshaping campaign strategies. With targeting getting less precise, lead quality is bound to shift, making now the time to reset expectations and fine-tune how success is measured.ResourcesMeta's Changes2025 Trends in Paid Media Connect with Miranda:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mirandamochsner/ Connect with Jenny:Email: jenny@hedyandhopp.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennybristow/If you enjoyed this episode we'd love to hear your feedback! Please consider leaving us a review on your preferred listening platform and sharing it with others.
Send us a textWelcome to the third and final instalment our 3x part CMO series on the Marketing Freaks podcast!In this final episode of the series, we're discussing how to communicate marketing at the board level. This is something that a lot of people new into their careers find challenging, and this episode is really designed to help!We very much hope you've enjoyed this series, and if you have, please don't forget to subscribe for future episodes. Enjoy!
Send us a textWelcome to our 3x part CMO series on the Marketing Freaks podcast!This week on the podcast, we are releasing not one BUT THREE episodes with the wonderful Lauri Joffe. Lauri has an amazing amount of experience as a CMO, working at Sears, American Freight and more.In this first episode we discuss the role of a modern day CMO, the pressures of the role and what the priorities should be. Enjoy!
Understanding the strategic integration of organic, paid, owned, and shared media is essential for amplifying your brand's reach and engagement. This episode explores the PESO model, illustrating how to balance these four media types to craft a cohesive and powerful marketing strategy. Learn how to effectively combine these channels to maximize your brand's visibility and impact. Read the full articles for more information: https://unscrewedmarketing.com/understanding-the-balance-of-organic-paid-owned-and-shared-media/ https://unscrewedmarketing.com/understanding-the-power-of-organic-paid-owned-and-shared-media/ https://unscrewedmarketing.com/owned-media-paid-media-earned-media-which-do-i-need/ #OrganicMedia #PaidMedia #OwnedMedia #SharedMedia #MarketingStrategy
In this episode of Always Be Testing, host Tye DeGrange welcomes Dan Darcy, Chief Customer Officer at Qualified, for a deep dive into growth, performance marketing, and the evolving role of AI in sales and marketing. Dan shares insights from his time at Salesforce and how Qualified has transformed from a live chat tool into an AI-powered platform helping marketers convert website visitors into leads. The conversation explores how Piper, an AI Sales Development Representative, is automating and personalizing lead engagement, the importance of speed to lead, and how AI-driven data insights are replacing traditional lead forms to improve conversion rates. Dan also discusses the challenges of scaling startups, the role of education in category creation, and why continuous testing and learning from failures are essential for growth. He highlights the power of face-to-face customer interactions and the impact of Qualified's highly rated support team. The episode wraps up with personal insights from Dan, touching on his favorite tools, passion for hosting, and love for Bravo reality shows. Listen now to gain valuable lessons on AI, marketing, and building strong customer relationships.
Most brands are running marketing strategies built for a world that no longer exists. We all want to create a movement, capture demand at scale, and dominate a market. But how do we do that today?For most marketers, Account-Based Marketing (ABM) is the gold standard: highly targeted, sales-aligned, and built to close high-value accounts. Then you have Market-Based Marketing (MBM), which expands the lens to broader demand capture, category creation, and positioning at scale. But the REAL power shift to consider? Let me introduce you to Community-Based Marketing (CBM). CBM isn't just about audience segmentation; it's about integration. ABM is transactional at its core. It's focused on getting the deal, not necessarily building a lasting relationship. And in a world where trust is the currency, ABM alone isn't enough. MBM is noisy. It requires a massive investment in awareness, content, and brand positioning. And in today's world of oversaturated content, it's harder than ever to cut through. CBM is about embedding your brand into the daily lives of the people who actually matter.With ABM, you're pitching from the outside. With MBM, you're broadcasting to the masses. But with CBM, you're technically already in the room.Instead of hoping they see your ad, you're in their inbox. Instead of forcing them to book a demo, they're asking you for a call. Instead of convincing them to trust you, they're defending your brand against competitors. Doesn't that sound amazing? Well trust me it is possible by recalibrating Account-Based Marketing and Market-Based Marketing with Community-Based Marketing that aligns with Value-Based Marketing, turning your community into your growth engine: generating organic conversations, referrals, and loyalty that no ad spend can replicate.Beyond The Episode Gems:• Subscribe To My New Weekly LinkedIn Newsletter: Strategize. Market. Grow.• Buy My Book, Strategize Up For The Blueprint To Scale Your Business: StrategizeUpBook.com• Discover All Podcasts On The HubSpot Podcast Network• Try GetResponse For FREE On Me To Monetize Your Content: GetResopnse Content Monetization Plan #####Support The Podcast & Connect With Troy: • Rate & Review iDigress: iDigress.fm/Reviews• Follow Troy's LinkedIn @FindTroy• Need Growth Strategy, A Keynote Speaker, Or Want To Sponsor The Podcast? Go To FindTroy.com• Follow Troy's Instagram @FindTroy• Subscribe to Troy's YouTube Channel
We had an incredible conversation with Cornelius from Opinary, now part of Affinity, about the transformative power of AI in affiliate operations and the future of content monetization.
Content-led growth is the future—are you ready? In this episode, Brian breaks down how brands like Americana Pipe Dream, Tallow Grill, and Skims are mastering storytelling, nano-influencers, and social commerce to scale faster than ever. From founder-led content to TikTok Shop takeovers, this is your playbook for 2025.Here's 5 things you can get done faster on Wix Studio:● Scale content with dynamic pages and reusable assets● And integrate with Meta CAPI, Zapier, Google Ads and more in seconds● A/B tests are a given—create them in days, not weeks with intuitive design tools● Connect tracking and analytics tools like GA4 & Semrush in seconds● And manage all your clients' social media from one dashboardAll of that right here: https://l.marketingexamined.com/wixpo
Today we are joined by a member of the Operators family, Matt Bertulli, CEO of Pela Case and Lomi, to talk all things marketing. Jumping off fromSean Frank's tweet questioning if meta is still incremental, we get deep into the nuance of paid media and how it's shifting, the increasing challenges of reaching new customers on Meta, and why the old playbooks don't work anymore. We also discuss scaling beyond meta and reallocating budget to TV, YouTube and strategic partnerships to drive new customer acquisition, what content tends to make for the best ads, how to measure long-term impact and where performance marketers are getting it wrong, and much more.If you have a question for the MOperators Hotline, click the link to be in with a chance of it being discussed on the show: https://forms.gle/1W7nKoNK5Zakm1Xv600:00 Introduction02:52 E-commerce Advertising Trends for 202505:51 Navigating the Challenges of Meta Advertising08:55 The Role of Incrementality in Meta Advertising11:46 Understanding Meta's Advertising Dynamics15:12 The Future of Meta Advertising and Brand Strategies30:29 Understanding Meta's Impact on Marketing Strategies36:12 The Shift from Purchase to Brand Awareness42:54 Reevaluating Marketing Objectives in a Changing Landscape49:49 The Convergence of Content and Advertising54:30 Exploring Non-Meta Marketing Channels01:01:08 Understanding Audience Awareness and Engagement01:04:50 Channel Diversification and Media Mix Strategy01:10:09 Influencer Marketing as a Scalable Strategy01:14:57 Evaluating Influencer Partnerships01:17:51 The Role of Post-Purchase Surveys in Marketing01:20:45 Creative Collaborations with Influencers01:23:27 Testing and Optimizing Marketing StrategiesOperators Exclusive Slack: https://join.slack.com/t/9operators/shared_invite/zt-2tdfu426r-TepSHJP~evAyDfR29U2qUwPowered by:Motion.https://motionapp.com/pricing?utm_source=marketing-operators-podcast&utm_medium=paidsponsor&utm_campaign=march-2024-ad-readshttps://motionapp.com/creative-trendsPrescient AI.https://www.prescientai.com/operatorsRichpanel.https://www.richpanel.com/?utm_source=MO&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ytdescNorthbeam.https://www.northbeam.io/Subscribe to the 9 Operators Podcast here:https://www.youtube.com/@Operators9Sign up to the 9 Operators newsletter here: https://9operators.com/
In this episode of Always Be Testing, Ian Martins, Managing Director of Zenith, explores marketing fragmentation and the need for integrated, client-focused strategies. He discusses balancing brand building with performance marketing, the rise of D2C, and the shift toward hybrid in-housing models. Ian also highlights media trust, influencer marketing, and the challenge of attracting top talent. The episode wraps up with his personal insights on media, technology, and industry trends.
In this episode of Always Be Testing, I sit down with Nate Ivey from Impact to talk about what's working in partner marketing today.We cover why diversifying partners is key, how trust and authenticity drive better results, and what brands need to know about Google's crackdown on-site reputation abuse. Nate also shares insights on the shift to performance-based influencer models and why consistent recruitment keeps programs strong.We wrap up with some personal stories—including sports, family, and parenting.
In this episode of the Simple and Smart SEO Show, I sit down with marketing strategist and agency owner Raycheal Proctor from Unlimited Mixed Marketing. We chat the transformative power of omni-channel marketing, discussing how different channels can work cohesively to elevate visibility and results. Raycheal shares her journey from classical musician to marketing maven and offers invaluable advice on leveraging SEO, paid media, and account-based marketing to create efficient, holistic strategies. Packed with real-life case studies and actionable tips, this episode is perfect for entrepreneurs and marketers looking to optimize their brand's presence across platforms.Key Takeaways:The Power of Omni-Channel Marketing: Combining SEO with paid media and other channels leads to better results and long-term efficiency.Targeted Approach Over Silos: A hyper-targeted, account-based strategy can eliminate digital noise and deliver measurable success.Repurposing Content: Maximize content value by breaking it into smaller formats for blogs, emails, and more.Continuous Learning and Adaptation: Stay updated with marketing trends and maintain flexibility to pivot strategies as needed.Personalized Branding: Passive branding, like wearing branded apparel during webinars, can be a natural and effective marketing tool.Memorable Quotes:Raycheal Proctor: "The long-term gains from SEO should directly complement the short-term gains from paid media."Crystal Waddell: "You gave us permission to define who we work with and create mutually beneficial relationships."Raycheal Proctor: "Doing what you love in a way that brings joy and profit is always a win."Listener Action Items:Explore how your current marketing channels can complement each other. Start small with two to three channels and grow over time.Dedicate time each week for intentional learning—review updates, refine strategies, and enhance your skills.Identify opportunities for repurposing your existing content across multiple platforms.Define your ideal clients and refine your marketing approach to align with their needs.Reach out to Raycheal Proctor at Unlimited Mixed Marketing for a personalized consultation.Contact Raycheal:Website: UnlimitedMixedMarketing.comLinkedIn: Raycheal ProctorSend me a text!Support the showWant to follow up on what you've heard? Search the podcast!Join the SEO SquadApply to be my podcast guest!
https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandvivaSummaryIn this engaging conversation, Mark, Ben, and Adam delve into the world of entrepreneurship, exploring Adam's journey from aspiring doctor to successful entrepreneur with his company, Bottlekeeper. They discuss the influence of childhood environments, the importance of creativity in small towns, and the risks associated with starting a business. Adam shares insights on the initial skepticism he had about Bottlekeeper and the innovative ways he tested the market for his product. The conversation highlights the significance of enjoying what you do and the value of taking calculated risks in the pursuit of success. In this conversation, Adam Callinan shares his journey of launching and growing Bottle Keeper, emphasizing the importance of market validation, the impact of Shark Tank, and the challenges of running a cyclical consumer goods business. He discusses the emotional toll of entrepreneurship, including anxiety and the need for coping strategies, ultimately leading to the decision to exit the business. In this conversation, Adam Callinan shares his journey from leading Bottlekeeper to launching Pentane, a software tool designed to help businesses understand their financial dynamics. He discusses the acquisition process, the importance of patience during transitions, and the lessons learned from consulting with struggling companies. Adam emphasizes the significance of efficiency and strategic spending in entrepreneurship, while also highlighting the impact of his work on other businesses. The discussion culminates in Adam's vision for Pentane as a tool that empowers business operators to make informed decisions and drive profitability. https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva
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Jaime Hunt speaks with Jenny Petty about a pressing issue few are discussing: the “Search Cliff.” While the “Demographic Cliff” has been a hot topic for years, the Search Cliff highlights a significant shift in the availability of prospective student data, fundamentally altering how higher education institutions attract and enroll students. Tune in as Jenny breaks down this emerging challenge, its implications, and strategies institutions can adopt to stay ahead of the curve.Key TakeawaysThe “Search Cliff” refers to the rapid decline in the availability of student data due to changing privacy laws and the shift to test-optional admissions policies.Name purchases, once a cornerstone of enrollment marketing, are yielding significantly fewer enrollments, dropping from 0.131% in 2019 to 0.043% in 2023.Institutions must pivot to focus on organic lead generation, content marketing, and paid media strategies to fill the funnel.Strong collaboration between MarCom and enrollment management teams is essential for addressing these challenges effectively.The future of higher education marketing will demand creative, technology-driven solutions, including leveraging AI and exploring new engagement strategies.What is the Search Cliff, and How Does it Differ From the Demographic Cliff? The Search Cliff represents a dramatic reduction in the availability of prospective student names for purchase. This trend is driven by shifting privacy laws and the widespread adoption of test-optional policies during COVID-19. Unlike the well-documented Demographic Cliff, which focuses on population decline, the Search Cliff underscores the limitations of traditional name-buying practices. These changes threaten to disrupt enrollment marketing strategies reliant on purchased names to drive funnel growth.Why is the Search Cliff Happening Now? Jenny explains that privacy laws in over 20 states are restricting access to student data, while the move to test-optional admissions has further limited name availability. Institutions that once relied on buying large lists of prospective student names to fuel enrollment pipelines are seeing diminishing returns. For example, the yield rate for purchased names has plummeted by 56%, making traditional tactics increasingly unsustainable.How Can Higher Education Marketers Adapt? Jenny offers several solutions to address the Search Cliff:Invest in Inbound Marketing: Organic lead generation through blogs, white papers, and gated content can create a steady pipeline of interest over time.Shift to Paid Media and Social Advertising: Institutions must build robust paid advertising strategies to compete in an increasingly crowded digital space.Leverage AI Tools: AI-powered technologies, such as virtual recruiters and chatbots, can enhance student engagement and streamline the recruitment process.Rethink Organizational Structure: Jenny emphasizes the need to evaluate team roles, particularly as AI reshapes the workload and demands of MarCom teams.What Role Should Leadership Play in Navigating This Shift? For institutions to succeed, leaders need to embrace marketing as a strategic driver of revenue and success. CMOs should foster partnerships with enrollment management teams and educate themselves about institutional budget models, financial aid strategies, and marketing ROI. Additionally, integrating marketing leaders into cabinet-level discussions ensures their voices are heard in key decisions about institutional priorities.What Does Success Look Like in the Era of the Search Cliff? Jenny challenges institutions to rethink traditional measures of success, such as application volume, and instead focus on retention and lifelong student value. As higher education faces intense scrutiny and competition, institutions must align product offerings, pricing strategies, and marketing efforts with the evolving needs of today's students. - - - -Connect With Our Host:Jaime Hunthttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jaimehunt/https://twitter.com/JaimeHuntIMCAbout The Enrollify Podcast Network:Confessions of a Higher Ed CMO is a part of the Enrollify Podcast Network. If you like this podcast, chances are you'll like other Enrollify shows too! Some of our favorites include Talking Tactics and Higher Ed Pulse. Enrollify is made possible by Element451 — the next-generation AI student engagement platform helping institutions create meaningful and personalized interactions with students. Learn more at element451.com.Attend the 2025 Engage Summit! The Engage Summit is the premier conference for forward-thinking leaders and practitioners dedicated to exploring the transformative power of AI in education. Explore the strategies and tools to step into the next generation of student engagement, supercharged by AI. You'll leave ready to deliver the most personalized digital engagement experience every step of the way.Register now to secure your spot in Charlotte, NC, on June 24-25, 2025! Early bird registration ends February 1st -- https://engage.element451.com/register
Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the intricacies of search marketing versus paid media, exploring how marketing strategies have evolved with technological advancements. They discuss the unpredictability of Google updates, the shift towards social platforms by younger demographics, and the importance of adopting a multi-channel approach in today's digital landscape. Tune in as they share insights on the most effective channels for reaching an audience and why owned media might be more crucial than ever.Highlights:"If you're starting from scratch with marketing, it's not search marketing I'd double down on." "The new model for organic reach should include connection, authenticity, and a surround sound strategy across multiple platforms.""People are looking for authenticity and consistency in the personalities they follow, not just content." "As marketing evolves, the channels that once dominated are being overtaken by more agile, targeted, and engaging mediums." Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction: The Current State of Search Marketing 02:52 - The Inefficacy of Traditional Search for Nationwide Businesses 05:03 - Shifting Priorities: Paid Media vs. Organic Search 08:24 - The Impact of AI and Generational Changes on Search Behavior 11:05 - The Importance of Multi-Channel Marketing Strategies 14:00 - Connection and Authenticity in Content Marketing 17:00 - Discussing Owned Media and Its Advantages Over Organic Search 20:21 - User Experience and the Shift Away from Traditional Search 23:18 - Reddit as an Emerging Search Platform 26:28 - The Role of Specialized Sites and Social Groups in Niche Searches 27:24 - Conclusion: Future Outlook on Search MarketingCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier