Podcasts about Growth hacking

Avant de parler “engagement collaborateur”, “culture” ou “marque employeur”… on devrait peut-être regarder le vrai point de rupture de 2026 : les managers.Parce qu'en ce moment, il se passe un truc silencieux mais énorme : l'encadrement décroche. Et quand les managers décrochent… les équipes suivent.Dans cet épisode du Barbu qui parle RH, on met les chiffres sur la table et on regarde la réalité en face :pourquoi l'engagement des managers s'effondre (et pourquoi ça doit inquiéter RH, DRH et CEO)pourquoi le manager est devenu le “tampon” entre la direction et les équipesl'effet hybride + IA + pression business : la poly-crise du manager de 2026le paradoxe le plus absurde : on investit dans les outils… mais on laisse les managers apprendre “sur le tas”et surtout : comment protéger le manager pour sauver l'entreprise

#332 | Dave is joined by Domi de Saint-Exupéry, CMO at Lemlist, a bootstrapped $40M ARR sales engagement platform, to break down exactly how she turned $1.2M in marketing spend into $31M in new ARR in 2025. Domi shares the full breakdown of every channel, agency, influencer strategy, and partnership play that drove results. This includes how they went from $0 to $500K in paid ads, why partnerships are the most underrated B2B growth channel, how they built a micro-influencer program, and what AI use cases are actually working (and which are overrated). If you want real numbers and real playbooks, this one's for you.Timestamps(00:00) - Introduction: $1.2M in spend, $31M in new ARR (03:36) - What Lemlist does and how the company got to $40M ARR (06:51) - Going from $0 to $500K in paid ads: what triggered the shift (11:06) - How to execute paid ads well: outsourcing vs. in-house, and scaling by channel (17:21) - LinkedIn ads creative: why "on-brand and safe" was the wrong approach (21:51) - Mistakes made in paid: Snapchat, Spotify, and channels that didn't work (25:21) - The micro-influencer playbook: how to find, brief, and measure creators (35:59) - How influencer content compounds with paid ads and outbound (the Julio story) (41:29) - Partnerships: why $450K went here and why it's the most underrated B2B channel (49:59) - AI in marketing: what's overrated (content generation) and what's actually working Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Optimizely - An AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive (PS - you'll get a FREE pair of Meta Ray Bans if you do). Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.  ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#331 | Dave is joined by a group of marketing leaders from Ramp, Snowflake, and Hightouch for a discussion about ABM and their plans for 2026. Casey Patterson (Director of ABM, Snowflake), Drew Pinta (Director of Growth Data Science, Ramp), and Brian Kotlyar (CMO, Hightouch) break down what ABM actually looks like in 2026 and what's working right now inside of their companies. They share how they're picking target accounts, aligning with sales, and building programs that go way beyond running ads. The group also digs into measurement, personalization, and how teams are using better data and AI to scale ABM without wasting budget. If you need a deeper dive on ABM tactics right now, this is the episode for youTimestamps(00:00) - - Why ABM is still a top topic in 2026 (04:31) - - Intros: Snowflake, Ramp, and Hightouch (07:51) - - Defining ABM (and why sales alignment is everything) (14:01) - - The “stop list”: ABM tactics they've killed (16:31) - - Why paid social “ABM awareness” is overrated (19:51) - - Shifting ABM to in-person and physical plays (24:01) - - Budgeting for ABM and how to start small (28:59) - - Why ABM measurement is different than traditional demand gen (34:19) - - How they build ABM audiences using data + signals (39:39) - - Scaling personalization without making it manual (45:19) - - Final takeaways and wrap-up Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Optimizely - An AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive (PS - you'll get a FREE pair of Meta Ray Bans if you do). Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.  ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Et si les RH de 2050 n'étaient pas en train d'être inventées…mais simplement rattrapées par la fiction ?Dans cet épisode du Barbu qui parle RH avec Sylvain Colas (Directeur Recrutement et Intégration @ACC), on explore une idée fascinante :la science-fiction n'est pas qu'un divertissement.C'est souvent un laboratoire d'anticipation du monde du travail.IA omniprésente, recrutement prédictif, management algorithmique, hyper-contrôle, disparition de certaines compétences, nouvelles formes de collaboration…Beaucoup de ces scénarios étaient déjà décrits dans des romans et films d'anticipation.Alors, que nous dit la science-fiction sur :l'avenir des Ressources Humaines ?le rôle des DRH en 2050 ?la place de l'humain face à l'IA ?les risques éthiques et sociétaux ?

#330 | Dave is joined by Ryan Narod, VP of Marketing at Rippling, to break down how Rippling has built one of the stand outbrands in B2B right now. Ryan walks through real examples of campaigns they've run over the last year, from scrappy iPhone videos and webinar promos to high-production customer stories and their 2026 Super Bowl commercial. They talk about how Rippling shifted from being great at growth marketing to building a brand people actually recognize, how they inject more personality and “human” into everything they ship, and how they measure brand marketing without losing pipeline accountability. To see Ryan's real campaign examples, head over to youtube.com/@heydavegerhardt.Timestamps(00:00) - - Why Rippling is going all-in on brand (02:51) - - Ryan's background and why he joined Rippling (04:14) - - What Rippling does and how they position the platform (08:14) - - What “brand marketing” means at Rippling (10:34) - - Building a story that makes HR the hero (19:47) - - Ryan shares Rippling marketing examples (ads, videos, webinars) (27:17) - - High-production customer storytelling (Berries) (32:39) - - The “HR Deserves Better” campaign (35:37) - - How Rippling measures brand and pipeline impact (43:14) - - The Super Bowl commercial and what it takes to pull it off (45:17) - - Final takeaways and wrap-up Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Optimizely - An AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive (PS - you'll get a FREE pair of Meta Ray Bans if you do). Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.  ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#329 | Dave is joined by Jay Schwedelson, Founder of SubjectLine.com and GURU Media Hub, to break down why most webinars and email programs underperform and what to do instead. They talk about how packaging drives performance, why the word “webinar” kills registrations, and how small tweaks like renaming your session, shortening it to 22 minutes, or adding an “attend to receive” hook can dramatically increase show rates. Jay also shares tactical email plays, from using white space and tighter subject lines to increasing reply rates and improving inbox placement.Timestamps(00:00) - Why packaging matters more than the content (03:04) - Jay's virtual event business and the GURU acquisition (05:50) - Why you should stop calling it a “webinar” (07:45) - The “attend to receive” tactic to boost show rates (10:19) - Why on-demand is hurting your engagement (14:28) - Why Fridays and Sundays outperform for B2B email + webinars (18:01) - How to choose webinar topics based on your goal (18:28) - Why 22-minute webinars and shorter podcasts win (29:15) - The white space + no preview text email hack (37:27) - The “reply with GUIDE” tactic to boost engagement (39:13) - Final takeaways and wrap-up Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Optimizely - An AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive (PS - you'll get a FREE pair of Meta Ray Bans if you do). Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.  ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#329 | Dave is joined by Emma Robinson, Head of B2B Marketing at Canva, and Kristine Segrist, Global Head of Consumer Marketing at Canva, to break down how Canva is scaling growth across both enterprise and consumer audiences. They talk about how Canva balances brand-building with pipeline accountability, how they turn bottom-up product adoption into enterprise deals, and why brand investment is a long-term growth lever. Emma and Kristine also share how their team structure, data science investments, and creative bets like the Love Your Work campaign help Canva scale without losing the brand identity that made them famous.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:21) - – Canva's marketing org structure (06:21) - – Blurring B2B and B2C (11:21) - – How Canva measures marketing impact (16:21) - – Turning free users into enterprise deals (21:21) - – Data science's role in marketing (24:21) - – Balancing brand bets with ROI (30:59) - – Inside the “Love Your Work” campaign (37:59) - – How Canva executes large campaigns (41:59) - – Building enterprise credibility and trust (44:59) - – FedEx case study on brand governance (48:59) - – Lessons from Google and Meta (52:59) - – Why creativity is a marketing superpower (54:59) - – Closing thoughts Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Optimizely - An AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive (PS - you'll get a FREE pair of Meta Ray Bans if you do). Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.  ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#328 | Jess Lytle is joined by Bill Glenn, SVP of Marketing at Esper, for a conversation about what it actually looks like to lead a marketing team through the AI shift. They talk about why most teams are still figuring AI out, how leaders should think about adoption beyond just tools, and why curiosity and experimentation matter more than having the “right” answers. Bill also shares how Esper is rolling out AI across the company with guardrails, the internal process they use to evaluate new tools, and why the biggest opportunity right now is using AI to eliminate busywork and unlock better thinking.Timestamps(00:00) - Why AI feels overwhelming for marketing leaders (04:06) - What Esper does and why software powering hardware matters (06:51) - Why AI feels like the early internet shift (08:41) - Leading with curiosity instead of pretending to be an AI expert (11:21) - Why AI adoption is a behavior change problem, not a tools problem (13:21) - How Esper is rolling out AI with guardrails across the company (19:06) - Why “boring AI” that saves time matters most (20:21) - Phase 1 vs Phase 2 AI adoption in marketing teams (32:09) - AI, mentorship, and preparing the next generation of marketers (44:54) - Leadership advice for first-time CMOs and VPs (49:59) - Final takeaways and wrap-up Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Optimizely - An AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive (PS - you'll get a FREE pair of Meta Ray Bans if you do). Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.  ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

En 2026, le débat sur le télétravail n'est pas derrière nous.Il est devenu l'un des sujets les plus inflammables du monde du travail : le Return to Office (RTO).D'un côté, des directions qui poussent pour un retour en présentiel au nom de la culture d'entreprise.De l'autre, des salariés pour qui la flexibilité est désormais un acquis, au même titre que le salaire ou les congés.Dans cet épisode du Barbu qui parle RH, on décrypte le paradoxe du travail hybride et ses conséquences très concrètes sur l'engagement, la rétention et la performance.Au programme :Pourquoi l'inflexibilité est devenue un des premiers moteurs de démission en 2026Ce que disent vraiment les chiffres sur l'engagement en full remote, hybride et 100 % présentielLe coût réel d'un RTO rigide imposé sans explicationPourquoi le bureau de 2026 n'est plus un lieu de production individuelle, mais un hub social et créatifComment repenser la présence au bureau autour de moments collectifs à forte valeur ajoutéeEn quoi la flexibilité est aussi un levier d'équité et d'inclusionLes 3 clés RH pour réussir une politique hybride sans casser la confiance

#326 | Dave is joined by Eoin Clancy, VP of Growth at Airops, to break down what it takes to create great content without pumping out AI slop. They talk about the rise of the content engineer role and why more teams are hiring for it and three dead-giveaway signs content is low-quality AI generated. Eoin also shares why webinars are Airops' best growth channel right now, including how they choose topics, source guests, why the sessions are ungated, and how to follow up in a way that drives revenue. A tactical episode for marketers trying to move faster with AI while keeping quality high.Timestamps(00:00) - Why AI content, content engineers, and webinars matter right now (03:44) - What Airops does and the AI search problem they're solving (04:39) - What a “content engineer” actually is (16:19) - How to use AI without creating AI slop (19:35) - The 3 signals content is AI slop (34:23) - Why webinars are Airops' best growth channel (36:48) - How they choose webinar topics and guests (53:00) - Other channels working (enablement, community, events) (56:00) - Final takeaways and wrap-up Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Optimizely - An AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive (PS - you'll get a FREE pair of Meta Ray Bans if you do). Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.  ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

En 2026, la santé mentale n'est plus un sujet “QVCT”. C'est un sujet de pilotage, de performance… et de risque business. Dans cet épisode, on décrypte pourquoi les entreprises intègrent désormais la santé mentale dans leurs indicateurs, au même titre que la productivité ou la marge. On parle chiffres (désengagement, pertes économiques, engagement), mais aussi signaux faibles sur le terrain : burn-out, bore-out, présentéisme, “quiet quitting”. ☁️Ce que tu vas retenir :Pourquoi la performance durable remplace la performance “à tout prix”Les chiffres clés 2025–2026 qui changent la lecture du sujetBurn-out vs bore-out : comment les repérer et éviter les fausses solutionsCe que les organisations peuvent mesurer (et ce qu'elles doivent arrêter de mesurer)Épisode à écouter chaque mercredi.

325 | Lashay Lewis helps B2B SaaS companies create profit driven content strategies. We talk about why a B2B content strategy should be built from the bottom of the funnel up, why she interviews sales teams to understand "life before using the product" and why she interviews customer success teams to understand "life after using the product" and how that influences content strategy, how writing influences buyers, the power of a strong company POV, training in-house writers and freelancers in a way that scales, where podcasting fits in a B2B content strategy, why search volume can be misleading, and thoughts on how content marketers can use AI. Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

La Formation RH est-elle une VASTE blague ?avec Léo Bernard, formateur, ex-RH, co-fondateur de Blendy et hôte du podcast TamtamEt si on osait poser LA question qui fâche ?Dans cet épisode sans filtre, on démonte méthodiquement les failles de la formation RH en France. Diplômes obsolètes, formations déconnectées du terrain, RH abandonnés à eux-mêmes, IA qui redistribue toutes les cartes : le constat est brutal, mais nécessaire.Au programme :• Pourquoi la formation initiale en RH est déconnectée du réel• Pourquoi les RH sont les moins bien formés… alors qu'ils forment tout le monde• Comment l'IA va transformer (ou éradiquer) les fonctions RH classiques• Pourquoi il faut arrêter de recruter uniquement des profils RH "purs"• La vision du RH 2028 : coach, stratège, facilitateur humainInvité :Léo Bernard, Ex-RH, aujourd'hui formateur engagé, cofondateur de Blendy, il accompagne une nouvelle génération de RH et de managers à sortir des process bullshit pour se recentrer sur l'essentiel : l'humain.Un épisode coup de poing pour celles et ceux qui veulent repenser leur métier avant qu'il ne disparaisse.➡️ À écouter, partager, secouer.

#324 | Dave is joined by three marketing leaders from different industries to talk on a live session about AI and SEO and what they've learned over the last year. Dave Steer (CMO at Webflow), Marcy Comer (CMO at EagleView) and Clare Schmitt (VP, Marketing & Communications at Piedmont Global) break down how buyers are learning about products through ChatGPT and why traditional SEO fundamentals still matter. The group shares real examples of how they're approaching content, prompt tracking, PR, and brand authority, plus advice for marketers on where to focus, what to ignore, and how to guide their teams through this search shift.Timestamps(01:06) - Why AI + SEO is the hottest (and most confusing) topic in B2B marketing right now (05:37) - Meet the panel: marketing leaders from Webflow, EagleView, and Piedmont Global (09:15) - How AI search is changing buyer behavior vs traditional Google search (12:58) - EagleView's real approach to AI search, greenfield opportunities, and prompt tracking (16:05) - What “black hat” vs “white hat” tactics look like in AI-driven search (20:12) - Webflow's take: integrated marketing, generosity, and building useful tools (29:33) - Getting past high-level advice and into real execution (34:33) - “Circle the buyer”: how content builds demand before buyers are in-market (38:16) - Why PR is back: long-form press, citations, and brand credibility in AI search (45:16) - What to do if you're a startup with no budget: focus on positioning first Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Votre taux de conversion stagne malgré vos efforts marketing ? Dans cet épisode du Shop des Titans, nous recevons Paul Louis Bénard, Directeur des Partenariats chez Payplug. Plutôt que de chercher la croissance uniquement par l'acquisition, Paul Louis nous démontre comment une "fuite" technique au niveau du paiement peut coûter jusqu'à 350 000 € de CA annuel à un marchand. Il nous explique pourquoi le choix d'un PSP (Stripe, Adyen, Payplug) ne doit pas être un automatisme, mais une stratégie financière pour protéger votre EBITDA.Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

#323 | Anthony Pierri from Fletch PMM joins Dave to talk about what actually matters in B2B positioning and messaging. They break down how to think about value props, why buyers don't care about your features, and what makes a homepage instantly click. Anthony shares lessons on positioning from working with hundreds of early-stage B2B SaaS companies and explains how to connect real customer problems to clear outcomes. Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#322 | Louis Grenier joins Dave for a conversation about what it actually takes to stand out in B2B marketing when everything feels the same. Louis sent Dave 10 surprise gifts to open during the show, and each one sparks a conversation about marketing, career, and life. They talk about the reality of how people decide to buy and why Louis is so focused on timeless fundamentals.Timestamps(00:00) - — Timeless marketing vs the AI hype (05:24) - — The colonoscopy story. (12:44) - — Trojan Horse marketing. Get attention first. Sell later. Stop leading with your product. (17:44) - — Why you can't create demand, only redirect it. (23:24) - — Category creation vs sub-categories. Most startups get this wrong. (26:14) - — Meaning-free brand assets. Why weird mascots and visuals actually work. (33:18) - — How to sell bold ideas internally without asking for permission. (37:08) - — Ads that look like ads fail. Attention is the job. (45:48) - — Triggers vs pain points. How people actually decide to buy. (51:08) - — First principles, repetition, history, and why this stuff still works no matter the tech wave. Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#321 | Jess Cook, VP of Marketing at Vector, joins Dave to break down what's actually working in early-stage B2B marketing. They dig into how she thinks about attribution for brand channels, how Vector's podcast became a top marketing channel, why they created a brand mascot, and details on what content strategy is working on LinkedIn right now. They also cover shift from content leader to VP of Marketing and how to drive demand without a massive team or budget.Timestamps(03:06) - — Meet Jess Cook & What is Vector? (07:39) - — B2B Influencer pilot setup: why this channel, why now (14:57) - — The result: 45 demos, ~$1.1M pipeline, and how she tracked it (16:55) - — How to run influencers (22:20) - — Scaling idea: retainer-style influencer partnerships (26:00) - — Vector's podcast: “awareness magnet” and the format that works (28:24) - — The production system: in-person batch recording a full season in 2 days (42:10) - — Jess's LinkedIn strategy: why she started posting and what she optimizes for (53:58) - — Content → VP shift: the two muscles she's building (metrics + leadership) Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#320 | Matt Carnevale, Head of Community at Exit Five, joins Dave for a discussion about community building. They dive into a bunch of the lessons learned from building the Exit Five community over the last few years, including specific plays like onboarding, matchmaking, and moderation. If you're thinking about community building in 2026, this is a good primer; plus the guys give their opinion on what “community” actually means and whether you should build a private community like Exit Five or focus more broadly on community building.Timestamps(00:02) - – Matt's path from BDR to Head of Community at Exit Five (08:29) - – What “community” actually means (and what it definitely isn't) (13:14) - – Why most B2B communities fail before they ever get traction (17:54) - – Community vs. content: what gets people in vs. what makes them stay (22:29) - – Why Slack groups aren't a strategy (27:14) - – Treating community like a product, not a marketing channel (34:48) - – The role of trust, curation, and saying no to the wrong people (40:23) - – What community managers actually do behind the scenes (47:18) - – How in-person events changed the Exit Five community (53:28) - – The biggest lessons Matt's learned after two years building Exit Five Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#319 | Dave sits down with Jess Lytle, Head of Marketing at Exit Five, to talk about how AI is changing the job of B2B marketers and the reality of how AI is actually being adopted internally. They also cover how AI even helped Jess get her job at Exit Five and why she's become obsessed about deploying AI in marketing and really believes this is the most important martech wave yet. Timestamps(00:00) - – Goals, manifestation, and reverse-engineering outcomes (06:14) - – Meet Jess Lytle, Head of Marketing at Exit Five (08:28) - – How Jess got hired at Exit Five (webinar → DMs → job) (10:28) - – From demand gen to AI: early adoption, teaching, and Lovable (15:58) - – Why AI feels different than traditional martech (18:28) - – Content in 2026: originality, human insight, and AI distribution (29:16) - – NotebookLM: real marketing workflows and internal use cases (35:16) - – AI tools, team structure, and hybrid marketer roles (45:56) - – Working at Exit Five, founder-led marketing, and brand bets Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#318 | Dave is joined by Kieran Flanagan, SVP of Marketing at HubSpot and former CMO at Zapier. They break down how AI is reshaping B2B marketing workflows, content creation, and team structure, plus Kieran's leadership philosophy for managing a 300+ person team while staying deeply involved in creative execution. This episode offers a clear look at how AI is changing the game and how B2B marketers can stay creative, strategic, and indispensable in the process.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro + why AI matters now (04:28) - – Kieran's career + the 2-year mission framework (09:58) - – The grind, early-career advice, and earning your stripes (12:28) - – Operator vs. manager + strong opinions in leadership (20:28) - – Why collaborative brainstorms fail (25:28) - – ChatGPT vs. Claude + how Kieran actually uses AI (33:16) - – Where AI is taking B2B marketing (answers → actions) (44:46) - – Picking a lane: technical vs. creative marketers (52:16) - – The future CMO + agencies, in-person, and what still matters Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#317 | Dave hosts a live session with Dasha Shakov (Head of Marketing, Proton.ai), Emeric Ernoult (Founder, CEO, Agorapulse), and Finn Thormeier (Founder, Project 33) to break down what's working on LinkedIn right now. They discuss why LinkedIn is the most important channel for B2B, why social media is the best marketing channel available today, how founder-led and employee content drives growth, and what's changed about how people use the platform over the last five years. The group also gets into LinkedIn's thought leader ads, thoughts on measuring results when attribution is messy, and how to sell LinkedIn's value to leadership and convince them to spend time there. It's a look into how B2B teams can earn attention, build credibility, and make LinkedIn a massive growth channel in 2026.Timestamps(00:56) - – Why LinkedIn is still Dave's favorite B2B channel (05:01) - – Panel intros: Dasha, Finn, Emeric (07:25) - – Why LinkedIn changed and why it matters now (09:34) - – “Our buyers aren't on LinkedIn” is mostly wrong (12:26) - – Who should post: CEO, team, or company page (16:47) - – Why promo posts flop (and why that's okay) (21:44) - – What to actually post when starting from zero (38:13) - – Why thought leader ads outperform everything else Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

316 | In this episode, Dave breaks down how the best companies win by standing out through smart ideas, creative execution, and consistent attention. He pulls lessons from Drift, Savannah Bananas, and his own wins to show why ideas matter, why brand is a durable long-term advantage, and how strong content can still break through today. Plus: thoughts on AI slop, why LinkedIn can be a powerful channel when used well, leadership lessons from The Hard Thing About Hard Things, and rapid-fire listener questions on playbooks, thought leadership, and building something bigger than Exit Five.Timestamps(00:00) - – Why attention became a dirty word in marketing (03:08) - – Personal update: hip surgery, burnout, and getting back in rhythm (05:08) - – The LinkedIn algorithm isn't broken. Your content probably is (06:18) - – The big idea: attention is the real game in marketing (07:38) - – Lessons from Savannah Bananas and stealing ideas outside B2B (09:58) - – How Drift won by sucking the oxygen out of the market (12:18) - – Scrappy attention plays: billboards, protests, and founder brand (15:08) - – Why brand comes before product messaging (19:35) - – Listener Qs: playbooks, AI slop, and building real leverage (27:20) - – Final takeaway: stop being boring, earn attention first Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

315 | Jess Lytle (Head of Marketing at Exit Five) hosts a live roundtable with Morgan Cole (VP of Demand Gen at Red Canary), Lisa Cole (CMO at 2X), and Jean Cameron (Sr. Director of Field & Partner Marketing at Demandbase) on how B2B teams are using AI to drive pipeline and revenue. They share real examples of how marketers are identifying in-market buyers earlier, moving deals faster, replacing outdated lead scoring, and keeping marketing, sales, and ops aligned around revenue. The conversation goes deep on intent signals, buying groups, predictive analytics, brand vs demand, and what's changing in the new era of pipeline accountability. Timestamps(00:00) - AI hype vs real revenue impact (06:16) - Panel intros and GTM perspectives (08:46) - The real pipeline problem: growth without more headcount (11:16) - How teams use AI to identify in-market buyers earlier (16:46) - Buying groups, not leads: why account signals matter (20:46) - Predictive analytics, pipeline forecasting, and deal analysis (27:36) - Why traditional lead scoring is breaking (37:28) - How teams “swarm” accounts with marketing + sales (43:48) - Brand and demand together: building future pipeline Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

314 | In this episode, Dmitry Shamis sits down with Dave to break down how Dave writes—the process behind emails, newsletters, landing pages, and posts that get attention. They talk about why Dave starts with the hook, why editing matters more than writing, and why most B2B marketing fails by trying to say too much. Dave also shares how podcasting shaped his thinking, why formatting is underrated, how he decides when something is “done,” and why shipping beats waiting for perfection. If you want to learn more behind Dave's writing, creation, and marketing this episode is a great one for you; Dave shares a bunch of his behind the scenes style that he's not shared on the podcast before.What's Your Process? is hosted by Dmitry Shamis—co-founder of OhSnap!, former Head of Brand and Creative at HubSpot, and one of the early pioneers of self-service brand systems for B2B tech. The show is an in-depth look at the processes behind top marketers, with past guests including Jess Cook, Ross Simmonds, Eddie Shleyner, Lashay Lewis, and Melissa Rosenthal.Timestamps(00:00) - – Why this conversation matters (05:38) - – Dave's background and path into marketing (09:53) - – What Dave is world-class at (and why copy is the leverage) (14:28) - – Why hooks come first and editing beats writing (19:48) - – How podcasting sharpened Dave's instincts (25:18) - – Formatting, focus, and making writing easier to read (32:35) - – Deciding when something is “done” and when to ship (39:05) - – Why most B2B marketing fails by trying to say too much (45:50) - – Raising the bar, big bets, and making hard leadership calls Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

En marketing on veut un peu tous la même chose : exister.Alors on communique sur tous les supports qui nous tombent sous la main. Sauf que ça ne sert pas à grand-chose si vous manquez UNE étape : construire votre base emails. Parce que sans elle, les gens vous verront mais vous vous ne les reverrez jamais. Aujourd'hui, je ne vais pas vous expliquer comment construire un lead magnet, mais où le positionner pour qu'il convertisse,  c'est-à-dire, comment faire pour que votre audience demande à s'inscrire à votre base emails. Autres épisodes qui pourraient vous plaire :Les secrets de mon meilleur lead magnetChoisir le bon lead magnetDévelopper sa base email avec des lead magnets---------------

#312 | In this episode, Udi Ledergor joins Dave to break down the ideas behind his new book, Courageous Marketing, and why most B2B marketing fails because it plays it safe. He also shares his journey from marketer #1 to CMO to Chief Evangelist at Gong, where he led category creation, brand, and marketing through massive scale. They unpack how Gong built a brand that actually stood out, what it means to punch above your weight as a B2B marketer, and how to think about brand ROI without fake dashboards.Timestamps(00:00) - – Meet Udi and his path into marketing (08:16) - – Early career lessons and building marketing from zero (15:16) - – How Gong found product-market fit and nailed positioning early (19:26) - – Courageous Marketing: why Udi wrote it and what it really means (23:16) - – Brand first: personality, positioning, then visuals (28:20) - – Campaigns that punched above their weight (billboards, experiments, perception hacks) (35:10) - – Proving brand impact: soft ROI, pipeline, and exec buy-in (47:40) - – The future: product-led marketing, AI, and courageous teams Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#312 | Jess Lytle (Head of Marketing at Exit Five) hosts a roundtable with a group of email experts on what's actually working in email, SMS, and in-app messaging right now. They dig into AI's impact on the inbox, how to sound human when everyone's using the same tools, and why relevance beats volume. The group also breaks down how to personalize without being creepy, what to do with “lurkers” who never click but still convert, and how to build messaging that survives the AI slop era. It's a sharp look at how B2B marketers can cut through the noise, earn attention, and actually get people to respond.Timestamps(00:17) - — Jess welcomes everyone (02:30) - — Why email and messaging aren't dead… bad messaging is (05:58) - — How AI changed the inbox and why standing out is harder than ever (06:34) - — Why human senders beat brand senders in email (10:03) - — Writing emails like you were invited into someone's personal space (12:18) - — Balancing stakeholder requests vs. what your audience actually wants (15:28) - — Real talk on AI personalization, enrichment, and where it actually works (21:33) - — Subject lines, preview text, and how people really decide what to open (23:08) - — Email stories and empathy-driven content that outperform (29:03) - — SMS, in-app, and email orchestration: what to use when (36:20) - — Measuring impact when email is assist, not hero (44:20) - — The future: AI-driven workflows, data challenges, and what's coming (53:00) - — Favorite tools (Claude, NotebookLM, etc.) and how people use them Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#311: Dave goes solo this week (his decision, he said give me the mic; but Dan is also on him about podcast downloads around the holidays) with a quick November breakdown from real life - recapping the Exit Five team trip to Arizona, a big leadership update at the company, and covering five timeless marketing principles that matter more than ever (if you care about fighting AI slop). He also talks about recovering from hip surgery (everyone's been asking how old he is), what he's been reading, and a Thanksgiving food debate.Timestamps(00:00) - - Intro + the sunglasses bit (04:08) - - Getting back into podcasting + November setup (05:38) - - The 5 timeless marketing principles (14:28) - - How to apply those principles in real marketing (15:38) - - Exit Five team trip to Arizona (17:28) - - Why in-person time matters (21:20) - - Dave's hip surgery and recovery (23:50) - - What he read and watched in November (27:20) - - The Thanksgiving overrated/underrated debate (29:40) - - Big news: Dan promoted to CEO and what's next for Exit Five Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#310 Category Creation | In this episode, Dave Gerhardt digs in with Josh Lowman, Founder & CEO of Gold Front, to unpack what “category creation” actually takes, why most companies get it wrong, and how the best brands win by owning a spot in the customer's mind. They get into the four real paths to category leadership, the trap of “fake” category design, why vibe and soul still beat spreadsheets, and how personal development quietly powers great marketing. If you're building a B2B brand and trying to stand out in a market that feels painfully same-same, this one hits exactly where you're stuck.Timestamps(00:00) - – Dave's Intro (03:22) - – Why Category Creation Got So Noisy (07:40) - – The Real Goal: Becoming Irreplaceable (12:26) - – How Customers Actually Form Categories (16:55) - – The Four Paths to Category Leadership (23:13) - – The Trap of “Fake” Category Design (28:56) - – Product Reality vs. Marketing Narrative (35:32) - – Why Vibe, Soul, and Taste Still Win (41:46) - – Community as a Differentiator (46:23) - – Josh on Therapy, Mindset, and Creative Clarity (52:15) - – Final Takeaways for B2B Marketers Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#309 Product Positioning | This episode is from a Drive 2025 (our annual Exit Five event) session with April Dunford (Founder, Ambient Strategy). April pulls from working with 300+ tech companies to unpack the real patterns behind winning positioning from calling out competitors' nonsense to teaching buyers what actually matters, avoiding category-creation traps, and fixing the sales messes that weak positioning creates. It's sharp, funny, brutally honest, and basically a crash course in how to make your product unmistakably different in a market full of noise.PS. Want to join us at Drive 2026?Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale.Timestamps(00:00) - – Why Positioning Breaks (03:20) - – Teaching Buyers to Spot Competitor BS (06:48) - – Turning Differentiators into Real Value (10:26) - – The Trap of Overthinking Categories (14:13) - – Choosing Your Go-To-Market Before Your Positioning (18:50) - – Building a Story Only You Can Tell (23:18) - – When Great Storytelling Backfires (28:53) - – Positioning Multi-Product Companies (32:34) - – When and Why to Reposition (36:22) - – Bringing It All Together in Sales Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#308 Sales Alignment | In this session from Drive 2025 titled “Building Pipeline in the Shiny Object Era”, Jen Allen Knuth unpacks why deals stall even when your product is objectively better, how the explosion of shiny tools and AI noise is making it worse, and why most teams are unintentionally fueling the problem with me-centric messaging. Jen shares the two zero-dollar exercises every team should run to quantify how much pipeline they're losing today, align sales and marketing around the true blocker, and rebuild outbound messaging that creates curiosity.PS. Want to join us at Drive 2026? Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale. Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Résumé de ma formation "Challenge 30 jours Linkedin Growth Hacking"  Comment faire du Growth Hacking sur Linkedin ? Voici une vidéo 100% réalisée en automatique (avec un peu de prompting) grâce à Notebook LM. Le résultat est vraiment bluffant, car il reste très fidèle au contenu de ma formation "Challenge 30 jours Linkedin Growth Hacking" avec les idées clés. Vous en pensez quoi ?

#307 Building Community | In this episode Dave joined Ali Orlando Wert (Director of Content Marketing & Brand at Databox) on their podcast called Move the Needle. She did an interview with Dave focused on community building. They cover how Exit Five grew 80 percent by operating more like a startup than a Slack group. Dave gets into the truth of building community, why most companies should not launch one, how to measure brand without losing your mind, and why AI has everyone simultaneously energized and spiraling. Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#306 Executive Insights | This episode was recorded live at our annual event, Drive 2025. I hosted Sylvia LePoidevin (CMO, Kandji), Trinity Nguyen (CMO, UserGems), and Natalie Taylor (Head of Marketing, Capsule) for a leadership panel breaking down what's working in B2B marketing. They get into events that reliably create pipeline, outbound that still converts, media plays LLMs keep citing, and the tactics they've stopped running (like generic webinars that no one shows up for).Want to come to Drive next year? Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro + Drive 2025 context (02:47) - – Meet the speakers: Sylvia, Trinity, Natalie (04:39) - – The one thing each leader refuses to give up (04:50) - – How Capsule turns events into their #1 pipeline channel (08:53) - – Why outbound still works (and how UserGems does it) (13:46) - – How Kandji built a media property that LLMs actually cite (18:12) - – Plays they stopped doing (blogs, generic content, virtual thought leadership) (25:56) - – Playing offense: Shark Tank Day and GTM alignment (31:20) - – Team wide alignment strategies that drive revenue Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#305 Influencer Marketing | This episode is a live session from Drive 2025 with Brianna Doe, where she breaks down why influence is now shaping every step of the buying journey, how smart B2B brands are borrowing plays from B2C, and what it really takes to build a creator program that doesn't flame out on day one. She gets into the messy reality of picking the right creators and measuring impact without deluding yourself with vanity numbers. Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:22) - – Why Influence Drives Modern B2B Buying (06:17) - – What B2B Can Steal From B2C Playbooks (09:12) - – The Creator Engine Framework (12:29) - – Picking the Right Creators (Without Getting Burned) (15:47) - – Building Campaigns That Don't Feel Like Ads (19:02) - – How to Measure Real Impact (Not Vanity Metrics) (23:38) - – Running a 90-Day Pilot That Actually Works (26:23) - – Scaling From One-Off Posts to a Full Program Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Paramark.It's November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you're doing right now will decide how next year plays out. But here's the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can't make smart budget calls if you're just guessing what's working, what's not, and where to put your next dollar.That's where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They've figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.And right now, they're offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. In this 45-minute strategy session, they'll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that's rooted in data, not gut.This is a heck of an offer. And it's real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don't miss out on this offer.Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#304 | AI Buying Shift | This episode is from a recent Exit Five live session where I pulled together Lindsay O'Brien (Head of Marketing & Operations, Predictiv), Tom Wentworth (CMO, incident.io), and Aditya Vempaty (VP of Marketing, MoEngage) for a real talk on how AI is completely rewiring the B2B buying journey. We got into why buyers no longer need your pretty funnel, how AI-powered research changes the sales call, and what that means for your GTM strategy.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro + Dave Sets the Stage (04:07) - – How AI Is Changing B2B Buying (11:07) - – The Big Shift: Taste, Unscalable Work, and Distribution (16:07) - – Getting Exec Buy-In for “Unmeasurable” Marketing (20:07) - – Does the Funnel Still Matter? (24:07) - – Dead Tactics: Gating, A/B Testing, Lead Score Theater (30:53) - – AI That Actually Works (Real Use Cases) (37:53) - – Team Size, Skills, and the New CMO (43:53) - – Authenticity vs AI: Creative, Video, and Brand (58:53) - – Content Attribution + Final Takeaways Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Paramark.It's November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you're doing right now will decide how next year plays out. But here's the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can't make smart budget calls if you're just guessing what's working, what's not, and where to put your next dollar.That's where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They've figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.And right now, they're offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. In this 45-minute strategy session, they'll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that's rooted in data, not gut.This is a heck of an offer. And it's real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don't miss out on this offer.Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#303 Storytelling | This episode is from Drive 2025, our 2-day in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, VT. Harry Dry, creator of Marketing Examples and one of the best copywriters on the internet, shared a masterclass on storytelling, creativity, and writing marketing that actually connects—showing how to find great ideas, turn real stories into memorable campaigns, and make people feel something in the process.Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro from Dave (02:47) - – Harry's background + Marketing Examples origin (05:07) - – What makes good marketing storytelling (08:27) - – How to find and collect great ideas (12:52) - – The power of emotion in copy (17:37) - – Why simple writing wins (22:12) - – Turning real stories into campaigns (29:08) - – The role of curiosity in great marketing (33:53) - – How to write like you talk (39:03) - – Examples of high-performing campaigns (44:13) - – Q&A: writing habits, inspiration, and burnout Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Paramark.It's November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you're doing right now will decide how next year plays out. But here's the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can't make smart budget calls if you're just guessing what's working, what's not, and where to put your next dollar.That's where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They've figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.And right now, they're offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. In this 45-minute strategy session, they'll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that's rooted in data, not gut.This is a heck of an offer. And it's real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don't miss out on this offer.Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#302 Growth | Dave is joined by Priscilla Barolo, former head of comms at Zoom (for nearly 10 years, including the pandemic) and current VP of Marketing at Neat, an Oslo-based video tech company. Neat's tech is used around the world from major enterprises like Atlassian to the White House. With a decade-long career at Zoom, including during its hypergrowth through the pandemic, Priscilla is a master in communications and B2B marketing leadership.Dave and Priscilla cover:The path from communications to marketing leadershipUnique challenges of marketing a physical product in the B2B tech spaceBuilding and scaling a global marketing team at a high-growth, remote-first company Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Paramark.It's November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you're doing right now will decide how next year plays out. But here's the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can't make smart budget calls if you're just guessing what's working, what's not, and where to put your next dollar.That's where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They've figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.And right now, they're offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. In this 45-minute strategy session, they'll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that's rooted in data, not gut.This is a heck of an offer. And it's real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don't miss out on this offer.Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#310 Leadership & Strategy | I sat down with Maura Rivera, CMO at Qualified, to talk about what it's like leading marketing at one company for six years (and why most of her team has been there just as long). We got into how product launches are the glue that hold their marketing together, what agentic marketing really means for the future, why outbound is actually working for them right now, and how events have become a huge part of their strategy. Plus, plenty of good banter along the way.Watch this episode on YouTube on my channel: https://youtu.be/4tew-Q89FmsTimestamps(00:00) - — Intro & setup: Marketing's back in the driver seat (03:32) - — Work, life, and moving from Boston to Vermont (07:07) - — Competitors, community, and the small-world CMO circle (12:37) - — How Maura's Salesforce roots shaped Qualified (15:07) - — Working for a CEO who actually gets marketing (19:07) - — Lessons from startup life & learning every part of marketing (22:07) - — Building the right team and hiring people smarter than you (29:07) - — Why product launches are the heartbeat of marketing (43:53) - — Agentic marketing, events, and AI at Qualified (55:53) - — The future of marketing and why it's back on top Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Paramark.It's November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you're doing right now will decide how next year plays out. But here's the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can't make smart budget calls if you're just guessing what's working, what's not, and where to put your next dollar.That's where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They've figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.And right now, they're offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. In this 45-minute strategy session, they'll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that's rooted in data, not gut.This is a heck of an offer. And it's real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don't miss out on this offer.Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#300 Drive | This episode is from Drive 2025, our 2-day in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, VT. It features Diane Wiredu, Founder of Lion Words and expert in B2B messaging and positioning. She shared a killer talk on “What Your Messaging Is Missing,” breaking down why most B2B copy sounds the same and how to close the meaning gap by focusing on clarity, balance, and buyer context.Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro from Dave (02:52) - – What “message-market fit” actually means (05:22) - – Why most B2B messaging misses (09:27) - – The “meaning gap” and why it happens (14:12) - – Balancing clarity, emotion, and differentiation (19:37) - – How to simplify complex products (26:33) - – Examples of messaging that actually resonates (32:03) - – How to pressure-test your messaging (38:18) - – Aligning teams around a clear message (44:03) - – Turning insights into copy that converts (49:13) - – Q&A: internal buy-in, testing, next steps Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Paramark.It's November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you're doing right now will decide how next year plays out. But here's the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel.  And you can't make smart budget calls if you're just guessing what's working, what's not, and where to put your next dollar.That's where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They've figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.And right now, they're offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. In this 45-minute strategy session, they'll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that's rooted in data, not gut.This is a heck of an offer. And it's real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don't miss out on this offer.Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#299 Drive | This episode is from Drive 2025, our 2 day in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, VT. Our first speaker was Sangram Vajre, Co-founder and CEO of GTM Partners and expert in GTM strategy. He shared a great session on building a repeatable GTM Operating System for sustainable growth, offering insight from 100 companies on what separates teams that scale from those that stall.Head over to exitfive.com/drive to join the waitlist for Drive 2026 and be the first to know when tickets go on sale.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro from Dave (02:51) - – Sangram's background + setup (04:51) - – What GTM really means (11:46) - – The 3 stages of GTM maturity (12:11) - – Why NRR is the key metric (20:51) - – The “boring marketing” advantage (27:42) - – How to say no and prioritize (29:42) - – Why GTM alignment beats tactics (33:42) - – Building your GTM Operating System (36:02) - – Q&A: GTM alignment, discovery, growth Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Paramark. You've heard it before – every B2B marketer's top pain point is marketing attribution. It's complicated, messy, and too often leads to fights with your CRO over whose lead deserves credit.That's where Paramark steps in. Their platform makes it simple to understand what's driving results (and what isn't) with tools like marketing mix modeling and incremental testing. No more relying on outdated click attribution or chasing UTM links. Instead, Paramark gives you actionable insights across channels, campaigns, and geographies to help you grow.Paramark's founder & CEO Pranav has been in your shoes as a B2B marketer. He's so passionate about solving this problem, he's offering listeners a free brand assessment. Pranav will personally analyze your brand's performance and share his insights—an opportunity you don't want to miss.Slots are limited, so act fast. Head to paramark.com/brand-consult to claim your spot. Trust us, this is worth your time.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#298 Q&A | OK I asked my team for some questions; a bit of a mailbag type of episode. So I sat down solo for this one and answered 15 questions from the Exit Five team about work, life, marketing, and everything in between. We got into everything from my daily routine and how I think about LinkedIn, to the best career advice I've ever gotten, what I'm reading, and a few personal stories I've never shared before.Watch this episode on YouTube on my channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyagkJf6xHw&t=508sTimestamps(00:00) - – Intro (02:08) - – What's your LinkedIn content creation process? (04:53) - – How often do you check Slack and email? (05:53) - – What are you reading or listening to right now? (09:23) - – What does a perfect day look like for you? (11:23) - – Tell your life story in four minutes. (12:08) - – If you could gain any quality or ability, what would it be? (16:08) - – What's your most embarrassing work moment? (18:43) - – What's your favorite all-time book and why? (19:43) - – What's the best career advice you've ever received? (22:03) - – What motivates you when you're feeling unmotivated? (23:08) - – If you could transform into any animal, what would you choose? (23:43) - – What are your biggest pet peeves? (25:33) - – Which team member would you swap lives with for a day? (26:43) - – What's your go-to karaoke song? (27:18) - – If you weren't running Exit Five, what job would you have? (28:58) - – Wrap-up & closing Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/ ***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#297 Leadership | I sat down with Kelly Cheng, CMO at Goldcast, to talk about her path from growth marketer to marketing leader, how she's built and scaled Goldcast's marketing org, the shift from PLG to sales-led, and why she believes great CMOs play the long game.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:08) - – Kelly's path from Hong Kong to Boston (06:08) - – Joining Goldcast and the PLG pivot (09:08) - – Moving from growth marketer to CMO (12:08) - – The role of mentors in her career (20:08) - – Questions to ask before taking a CMO role (27:43) - – Inside Goldcast's marketing org structure (33:43) - – How Kelly measures brand and mindshare (40:43) - – Why the BDR team reports to marketing (46:43) - – The link between brand, content, and pipeline (51:43) - – Leading with vulnerability and the “long game” Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/ ***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#295 Messaging | Dave is joined by Emma Stratton, founder of Punchy, where she helps B2B tech companies sharpen their positioning and write messaging that actually connects. Emma's worked with hundreds of teams to cut through vague, abstract copy and turn it into language buyers instantly get.Dave and Emma cover:How to go from vague to punchy using specificity and buyer empathyWhy most B2B messaging blends into the “sea of sameness” (and how to stand out)How customer research and real conversations create message–market fitThey wrap with a candid chat on journaling, focus, and how managing your mental energy can make you a better marketer and human.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro to Emma (04:13) - – What makes B2B messaging actually good (07:55) - – Common messaging mistakes (and why “clarity > clever”) (10:53) - – Positioning vs. messaging: what's the difference? (15:06) - – Why it's hard to name great B2B marketing examples (17:30) - – How to sharpen weak messaging and fix vague positioning statements (20:38) - – Simplifying complex products without dumbing it down (23:48) - – How to write for buyers (not just execs) (28:55) - – Using customer interviews and research to build strong messaging (33:33) - – Standing out in a crowded, buzzword-filled market (36:17) - – How storytelling fits into B2B messaging (39:23) - – Messaging advice for early-stage founders and startups (42:38) - – How often should you revisit and update messaging? (44:48) - – Productivity, managing your energy, and staying focused (48:03) - – Journaling, mindfulness, and being intentional with your time (51:58) - – Final takeaways Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/ ***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Hey it's me live from the airport, LGA to be exact. Sorry for the poor audio, my AirPods make it way worse than just talking into the phone, now I know. But we cleaned it up a bit. Recapping our NYC event if you missed it, talking about the ROI of hanging out in person and what's next. Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/ ***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#294 Event Strategy | First time podcast guest alert! I invited Allison and Anna from the Exit Five team on for a conversation post Drive 2025 - to talk about lessons learned and behind the scenes from our annual marketing conference in Vermont. Snag your tickets for next year now exitfive.com/driveTimestamps(00:00) - – Intro (02:08) - – Why events are making a comeback in B2B marketing (06:08) - – What Drive is and how it started (11:08) - – Why every event should start with the landing page (14:08) - – Lessons from year one and how feedback shaped Drive 2025 (19:08) - – Treating events like products, not projects (21:08) - – Building connection through “third spaces” and excursions (26:08) - – Why community is the real ROI of in-person events (32:43) - – The biggest Drive mishap (and what it taught us) (37:43) - – Post-event strategy: why the event isn't over when it ends (47:43) - – Favorite moments, lessons, and shoutouts from Drive 2025 Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/ ***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#293 Email Marketing | I'm trying to make my way from Vermont to New York and back with a mini episode talking about email (is email dead?), direct mail, the Dream 100, and a smart lesson from a non-B2B marketer. Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/ ***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

#291 In-Person Events | I decided to break the pattern with a solo podcast, just me and my phone, walking around the woods at my home in Vermont on a damp October morning before heading to NYC for the Exit Five meetup. I talk about my goals for the week, our plans, why we're hosting a dinner, the value of meeting in-person, remote vs. in office work, and other ramblings.*If you listened to this: DM me on LinkedIn or email dave@exitifve.com - tell me what you want me to cover on this podcast as it relates to marketing, business, or life. Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/ ***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Your Playbook for Black Friday & Cyber Monday Creative that ConvertsSign up here: https://www.tiereleven.com/BfcmGet your Beauty Brand's creative trend report from one of the most successful Creative Strategists, Lauren Schwartz. In this FREE webinar, you'll get all the Angles, Styles & Hooks That Sell (Before Your Competitors Catch On.) Black Friday and Cyber Monday are the most competitive moments of the year for beauty brands, and the right creative is how you win. In this webinar, we'll reveal the trends, hooks, and tactics driving conversions before your competitors catch on. You'll learn:Angles, Styles, and Hooks - Those that are actually selling this season, and not the trends we are going to see over-saturated.Macro Creative Trends - Learn all about the Macro creative trends that will shape your Q4 creative ads.Holiday Hooks - Holiday hooks that can be shaped to your brand to own the feed and stop the scroll.Quick Start Checklist - Get the ultimate quick start checklist so you can apply these learnings to your brand in under 7 days.The easy shortcuts in digital marketing, like quick flips, four-hour workweeks, and AI-generated funnels, are gone! Former Perpetual Traffic co-host and Google Ads powerhouse Kasim Aslam joins us today to explore why the old playbook no longer works and why the future belongs to those willing to do the hard, unscalable work. Kasim shares the thesis that changed how he approaches starting and scaling a business. From his incubator of 17 businesses to investing in industries most people overlook, Kasim's perspective will reframe how you think about scaling in the AI-driven landscape. If you want to learn how to build smarter, stronger businesses in a world where automation alone won't save you, this one is for you!In This Episode:- Kasim's journey post-Perpetual Traffic- The cost of traffic in digital marketing- Scaling and measuring profitability: "diminishing returns" is not a stop sign- Accounting for incalculable gains as you scale- The death of quick flip businesses - Leveraging hard work and human connection - Apple's example of goodwill and brand loyalty- How to sign up for the upcoming growth hacking conferenceMentioned In the Episode:Previous episode with Kasim on the law of inverse profitability: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-the-law-of-inverse-profitability-is-the-1-way/id1022441491?i=1000650815702 Sign up for the Growth Hacking conference with Kasim: perpetualtraffic.com/growth Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: