Podcasts about Johnny Mandel

Dana and Tom with returning guest, Joe Boukhari (Instagram - I'll Get to It When I Get to It; Letterboxd Film Commentator - @bagodonuts) revisit Caddyshack (1980): written and directed by Harold Ramis with Douglas Kenney and Brian Doyle Murray, music by Johnny Mandel, cinematography by Stevan Larner, starring Chevy Chase, Ted Knight, Rodney Dangerfield, and Bill Murray.Plot Summary: Bushwood Country Club: an opulent haven for the wealthy, where life revolves around pristine greens, exclusivity, and egos so inflated they could double as golf carts. But underneath the facade of luxury lies a clash of worlds—working-class caddies and eccentric groundskeepers versus snobby elites—and it's about to get hilariously out of control.Danny Noonan (Michael O'Keefe), a young caddy striving to secure his future, finds himself entangled in the club's tangled hierarchy, navigating manipulative judges, raucous millionaires, and life lessons from Ty Webb (Chevy Chase), a laid-back golfer with pearls of wisdom that sound like they came from a Zen koan written by Groucho Marx. Meanwhile, Carl Spackler (Bill Murray), the quirky groundskeeper, engages in an escalating war with a gopher so cunning it could win a philosophy debate.Add in Al Czervik (Rodney Dangerfield), whose outlandish behavior becomes a catalyst for chaos, and Bushwood transforms into the backdrop for a wild satire of class division, absurd ambition, and the universal search for meaning—through golf, naturally. The result? A comedy that skewers pretense and celebrates the unpredictability of life, all while leaving the audience wondering how a gopher became the most unstoppable force in the universe.Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Welcome Back, Joe Boukhari02:42 Cast and Background for Caddyshack06:19 Relationship(s) with Caddyshack09:12 What is Caddyshack About?13:54 Status of Comedy in Film24:48 Plot Summary for Caddyshack26:36 Did You Know?28:29 First Break29:26 What's Up with Joe Boukhari?32:02 The Stanley Rubric - Legacy45:03 The Stanley Rubric - Impact/Significance50:33 The Stanley Rubric - Novelty57:52 Second Break58:33 The Stanley Rubric - Classicness01:04:54 The Stanley Rubric - Rewatchability01:09:27 The Stanley Rubric - Audience Score and Final Total01:11:28 Remaining Questions for Caddyshack01:14:44 Thank You to Joe Boukhari and Remaining Thoughts01:18:17 CreditsGuest:Joe BoukhariInstagram - I'll Get to It When I Get to ItLetterboxd Film Commentator - @bagodonutsYou can also find this episode in full video on YouTube.You can now follow us on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, or TikTok (@gmoatpodcast).For more on the original episode, go to: https://www.ronnyduncanstudios.com/post/caddyshack-1980For more on the episode, go to:

Speaking about Bill Charlap's trio, the legendary songwriter Johnny Mandel said "It Don't Get No Better Than That." Bill Charlap's quiet and humble demeanor belies the fact he is one the reigning modern modern masters of jazz piano. In this conversation with Jazz88's Peter Solomon, he discusses his musical influences, his current trio, and his profound admiration for his spouse, pianist Renee Rosnes. Charlap is appearing at the Dakota on Saturday, March 22.

Speaking about Bill Charlap's trio, the legendary songwriter Johnny Mandel said "It Don't Get No Better Than That." Bill Charlap's quiet and humble demeanor belies the fact he is one the reigning modern modern masters of jazz piano. In this conversation with Jazz88's Peter Solomon, he discusses his musical influences, his current trio, and his profound admiration for his spouse, pianist Renee Rosnes. Charlap is appearing at the Dakota on Saturday, March 22.

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Dana and Tom with returning guest, Adam Vanderwerff, discuss M*A*S*H (1970): directed by Robert Altman, written by Ring Lardner, Jr., music by Johnny Mandel, starring Donald Sutherland, Elliott Gould, Tom Skerritt, and Robert Duvall.Plot Summary: M*A*S*H is a sharp, irreverent satire that reimagines the war film as a chaotic and darkly comedic theater of absurdity. Set in a mobile army surgical hospital during the Korean War, the film follows the misadventures of surgeons Hawkeye Pierce (Donald Sutherland) and Trapper John McIntyre (Elliott Gould), whose antics clash with the rigid military hierarchy.The film's freewheeling ensemble style captures the camaraderie and anarchy of a unit forced to find humor amidst the horrors of war. With its anti-authoritarian ethos and whip-smart dialogue, the film critiques the machinery of war and conformity without sermonizing. The overlapping conversations, naturalistic performances, and subversive tone make M*A*S*H both a product of its era and a timeless commentary on the absurdities of human conflict.Guest:Adam Vanderwerff (Duncan Disability Law)Previous Episodes: Office Space (1999), Ghostbusters (1984)Chapters:00:00 Introduction to MASH and Its Legacy03:56 Relationship(s) with M*A*S*H08:02 What is M*A*S*H About?12:42 Cultural Impact of M*A*S*H18:57 Impact of First F-Bomb in Cinema History?21:09 Plot Summary for M*A*S*H22:22 Did You Know?24:51 First Break26:22 Best Performance(s)32:50 Best/Favorite/Indelible Scene(s)38:43 Second Break39:53 In Memoriam42:08 Best/Funniest Lines43:47 The Stanley Rubric - Legacy48:19 The Stanley Rubric - Impact/Significance49:01 The Stanley Rubric - Novelty52:57 The Stanley Rubric - Classicness58:57 The Stanley Rubric - Rewatchability01:01:59 The Stanley Rubric - Audience Score and Final Total01:03:12 Remaining Questions for M*A*S*H01:10:45 Thank You to Our Guest and Final Thoughts01:15:42 CreditsYou can also find this episode in full video on YouTube.You can now follow us on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, or TikTok (@gmoatpodcast).For more on the episode, go to: https://www.ronnyduncanstudios.com/post/m-a-s-h-1970-ft-adam-vanderwerffFor the entire rankings list so far, go to: https://www.ronnyduncanstudios.com/post/greatest-movie-of-all-time-listKeywords:MASH, film analysis, cultural impact, legacy, comedy, war film, character performances, podcast, movie review, Donald Sutherland, Robert Altman, Robert Duvall, Elliot Gould, Tom SkerittRonny Duncan Studios

'You are there' (Tú estás ahí), es una canción de Dave Frishberg y Johnny Mandel, que da título al disco que grabaron a dúo, una tarde de septiembre de 2005, la cantante italiana Roberta Gambarini y el pianista estadounidense de jazz Hank Jones con clásicos como 'Then I´ll be tired of you?', 'Something to live for' o 'Lush life'. Hace unos días que se ha editado 'Sweet caress', disco del trompetista suizo Franco Ambrosetti orquestado por Alan Broadbent para 29 cuerdas y vientos, y con la violinista Sara Caswell, el guitarrista John Scofield, el bajista Scott Colley y el baterista Peter Erskine ('Soul eyes', 'Portrait of Jennie', 'Sweet caress', 'Habanera'). Youn Sun Nah, la cantante coreana residente en París, ha incluído en su reciente 'Elles' canciones como 'Feeling good' y 'Sometimes I feel like a motherless child'. Despiden The Ipanemas con 'Samba pra mim mesmo'.Escuchar audio

Breaking some eggs, it's time to start smoking, another nugget from the psych hospital, some of the latest gnews, the undeniably awesome Shelley Duvall, suicide isn't painless, a screenwriting master, Alice doesn't live here anymore, screw the Kennedys, Charles Darwin and his natural selection of mail, hoping for another act, the mind-blowing Rubik's cube, the masterful Brian Eno, a forgotten horror movie, and long walks with the dearly missed Chris Cornell. Stuff mentioned: Billy Joel "I Go to Extremes" (1989), Billy Joel Storm Front (1989), Happy Days "Hollywood: Part 3" (Season 5/Episode 3, September 20, 1977 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO0D0jF83lc), Detour (1945), The Great Space Coaster (1981-1986), Brewster McCloud (1970), M*A*S*H (1970), Johnny Mandel (music) and Michael Altman (lyrics) "Suicide is Painless/Theme from M*A*S*H" (1970), Popeye (1980), Popeye Village Malta (https://popeyemalta.com), The Shining (1980), Chinatown (1974), Shampoo (1975), The Two Jakes (1990), Sam Wasson The Big Goodbye: Chinatown and the Last Years of Hollywood (2020), Maureen Callahan Ask Not: The Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed (2024), Elizabeth Beller Once Upon a Time: The Captivating Life of Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy (2024), Brian Eno Here Come the Warm Jets (1974), Eno (2024), Alcatraz East Crime Museum (https://www.alcatrazeast.com), Bad Dreams (1988), The Chambers Brothers "Time Has Come Today" (1967), The Electric Prunes "I Had Too Much to Dream Last Night" (1966), Sid Vicious "My Way" (1978), Andrew Wyeth "Christina's World" (1948 https://www.moma.org/collection/works/78455), Chris Cornell "Follow My Way" (1999), Chris Cornell Euphoria Morning (1999), Soundgarden "The Day I Tried To Live" (1994), and Soundgarden Superunknown (1994).

DIANA KRALL – WHEN I LOOK IN YOUR EYES New York, 1998Do it again (1), I've got you under my skin (2,3,4), Let's face the music and dance (jm arr,1)Larry Bunker (vib-3) Diana Krall (p,vcl,small ensemble arr) Russell Malone (g) John Clayton (b-1) Ben Wolfe (b-2) Jeff Hamilton (d-1) or Lewis Nash (d-4) + orchestra and strings, Johnny Mandel (arr) ANAT COHEN TENTET TRIPLE HELIX New York, January, 2019Milonga del angel, Footsteps & smiles, La lloronaNadje Noordhuis (tp,flhrn) Nick Finzer (tb) Anat Cohen (cl) Owen Broder (bar) James Shipp (vib,perc) Vitor Goncalves (p,accor) Sheryl Bailey (g) Christopher Hoffman (cello) Tal Mashlach (b) Anthony Pinciotti (d) Oded Lev-Ari (dir) ERIC ALEXANDER CHICAGO FIRE Englewood Cliffs, NJ, November 26, 2013Save your love for me (1), Just one of those things, Blueski for VonskiJeremy Pelt (tp-1) Eric Alexander (ts) Harold Mabern (p) John Webber (b) Joe Farnsworth (d) Continue reading Puro Jazz 08 de Julio 2024 at PuroJazz.

DIANA KRALL – WHEN I LOOK IN YOUR EYES New York, 1998Do it again (1), I've got you under my skin (2,3,4), Let's face the music and dance (jm arr,1)Larry Bunker (vib-3) Diana Krall (p,vcl,small ensemble arr) Russell Malone (g) John Clayton (b-1) Ben Wolfe (b-2) Jeff Hamilton (d-1) or Lewis Nash (d-4) + orchestra and strings, Johnny Mandel (arr) ANAT COHEN TENTET TRIPLE HELIX New York, January, 2019Milonga del angel, Footsteps & smiles, La lloronaNadje Noordhuis (tp,flhrn) Nick Finzer (tb) Anat Cohen (cl) Owen Broder (bar) James Shipp (vib,perc) Vitor Goncalves (p,accor) Sheryl Bailey (g) Christopher Hoffman (cello) Tal Mashlach (b) Anthony Pinciotti (d) Oded Lev-Ari (dir) ERIC ALEXANDER CHICAGO FIRE Englewood Cliffs, NJ, November 26, 2013Save your love for me (1), Just one of those things, Blueski for VonskiJeremy Pelt (tp-1) Eric Alexander (ts) Harold Mabern (p) John Webber (b) Joe Farnsworth (d) Continue reading Puro Jazz 08 de Julio 2024 at PuroJazz.

This week's show, after a 1994 GBV gutting: brand new Chime School, Bob Mould, Royal Headache, Black Watch, Beachwood Sparks, Trans-Canada Highwaymen, and Mary Timony, plus Valentinos, 1965 Bee Gees, T. Rex, Kitty Wells, Johnny Mandel, Lighthouse, and ...

Diese Sendung hat Andreas Pasternack zusammengestellt. Das LIVE Anspiel ist diesmal: „The Shadow of your Smile” – 1965 komponiert von Johnny Mandel. Folgende Titel sind zu hören: 1. Tea for two – Ella Fitzgerald 3:18 2. Metropolis Blues – Vincent Herring 3:43 3. The Shadow of your Smile – Aaron Neville 3:38 4. Tico! Tico! – Paquito d‘Rivera 5:31 5. Mercy mercy me – Everette Harp 3:01 6. Summertime – Charlie Parker with Strings 2:49 7. I've been waiting – Incognito 4:29 8. Work Song – Nat Adderley Sextet 4:16 9. Samba de Orly – Tania Maria 4:12 Bei Titelwünsche und Anregungen schreiben Sie gern an: jazztime.mv@ndr.de Keep Swingin' !!!

Welcome to Episode #112 of "The Other Side of the Bell", a podcast brought to you by Bob Reeves Brass. In this episode, John talks with Wayne Bergeron and Jeff Bunnell about their recently released album called "Homage" by the Los Angeles Trumpet Ensemble.  We hope you'll enjoy their conversation as well as the album. Join us at Dillon Music, November 9-11 for valve alignments and mouthpiece consultations. Email sales@dillonmusic to schedule an appointment! About the Los Angeles Trumpet Ensemble Album "Homage"  The recording scene in Los Angeles has a long history of great and highly versatile trumpet playing. For the most part, though, these trumpet players rarely get a chance to be featured. In 1957, Tutti Camarata arranged and produced a record called Tutti's Trumpets that featured some of the top session trumpet players in Los Angeles at that time. That was over 60 years ago. Wayne Bergeron and Jeff Bunnell started talking about doing another recording that would feature some of the current session trumpet players here in Los Angeles. Wayne suggested recording a trumpet ensemble CD to Jeff and they loved the idea and thought a choir of trumpets would work well. With that, the Los Angeles Trumpet Ensemble came into being. In choosing the music Jeff arranged for this CD, he wanted to pay tribute to some of the film composers who are part of the Los Angeles recording scene (and who write so well for the trumpet), and also pay tribute to some of the great trumpet players of the past and present.  Jerry Hey graciously wrote the arrangment for the last track, the iconic Al Jarreau tune "Roof Garden". Los Angeles Trumpet Ensemble Members Jeff Bunnell Wayne Bergeron Jon Lewis Dan Fornero Marissa Benedict Dan Rosenboom Rob Schaer Larry Hall Dan Savant About Wayne Bergeron Wayne Bergeron is enjoying a career as one of the most sought-after musicians in the world. Studio sessions, film dates, international touring, jazz concerts, guest appearances, and clinics keep him busy not only in his hometown of Los Angeles but worldwide. Born in Hartford, Connecticut in 1958, Bergeron came to California at age one. He originally started on French horn but switched to trumpet in seventh grade where he found a natural upper register ability. Bergeron credits his junior high and high school teachers, Ron Savitt and Bob Smith, for molding his talent into practical working skills. Bergeron first caught the ear of many when he landed the lead trumpet chair with Maynard Ferguson's band in 1986. Bergeron can be heard on Maynard's recordings of Body and Soul, Big Bop Nouveau, Brass Attitude, and The One and Only Maynard Ferguson.  Bergeron demonstrates daily why Maynard remarked, “Wayne is the most musical lead trumpet player I've had on my band.” As a sideman, Bergeron's list of recording credits reads like a “who's who” in contemporary jazz and pop, running the stylistic gamut from Ray Charles to Green Day. Other names include Katy Perry, Beyoncé, Barbra Streisand, Michael Buble, Indina Menzel, Leslie Oden Jr., Herb Alpert, The Jonas Brothers, Burt Bacharach, The Dirty Loops, Seth MacFarlane, Natalie Cole, Celine Dion, Seal, Diana Krall, Tito Puente, Christina Aguilera, Dianne Reeves, Michael Bolton, Earth Wind & Fire, The Pussy Cat Dolls, My Chemical Romance, The Mars Volta, Chicago, Rosemary Cloony, Diane Schuur, Barry Manilow, Lee Ann Womack, Lou Rawls, Eric Marienthal, Kenny G., and David Benoit. Bergeron has worked on over 500 TV & motion picture soundtracks. A partial list of film credits includes Red Notice, Turning Red, Soul, Bob's Burgers, Ford vs. Ferrari, Toy Story 4, Frozen 1 & 2, The Lion King (2019), The Secret Life of Pets, Wreck it Ralph 2, Crazy Rich Asians, Sing 1&2, Moana, Frozen 1 & 2, Get On Up, Toy Story 3, Monsters University, High School Musical 3, Get Smart, Superman Returns, The Simpson's Movie, Dreamgirls, Hairspray, Mission Impossible 3, Ice Age 2, Spiderman 1 & 2, Team America and South Park. Bergeron's featured trumpet solos can be heard on the motion pictures West Side Story (2021 Steven Spielberg), La La Land, Sing, The Incredibles 1 & 2, Rocky Balboa, The Secret Life of Pets 2, Rough Night, Jazzman's Blues, Vacation Friends, Ted 2, Minions, Minions 2:The Rise of Gru, Spies in Disguise, Jersey Boys, The Green Hornet, The Interview, Despicable Me 1, 2 & 3, Duplicity, Princess & the Frog, The Perfect Game,, Hey Arnold (the movie), The Rat Pack, Child Star, Aladdin King of Thieves and High Crimes and  many others. Numerous TV credits include Academy Awards, Golden Globe Awards, SAG Awards, NBC, ESPN & TNT sports themes, American Idol (2001-02), Emmy Awards, Grammy Awards, Animaniacs Reboot, Family Guy, American Dad, Simpson's, Wonderful World of Mickey Mouse, The Cleveland Show, Green Eggs and Ham,  Jeopardy, America's Funniest Home Videos, Will and Grace, Phineas & Ferb, Emperor's New School, Mouse Works, Have a Laugh, House of Mouse, King of the Hill, Futurama, Buzz Lightyear, Hercules, and Hey Arnold. Bergeron's greatest love is playing lead in big bands. He has recorded and played with some of Los Angeles' most respected bands including Gordon Goodwin, Arturo Sandoval, Pat Williams, Sammy Nestico, Jack Sheldon, Chris Walden, Tom Kubis, John La Barbara, Bob Florence, Joey Sellers, Ray Anthony, Bill Watrous, Bob Curnow, and Quincy Jones. After being behind the scene for so many years, Bergeron stepped out on his own with his first solo effort, You Call This a Living?  This debut project earned him a Grammy nomination in 2004 for Best Large Jazz Ensemble, as well as rave reviews from fans and press worldwide. Bergeron's second CD, Plays Well With Others, released on the Concord Jazz label in 2007, was met with the same acclaim. Bergeron's most current (and personal favorite) CD, Full Circle, was released in January of 2016.  Bergeron performs various events for the Hollywood Bowl summer season. He has done guest appearances with the L.A. Philharmonic, The New York Philharmonic, Cleveland Orchestra, Dallas Symphony, Taiwan Symphony, and Tokyo Philharmonic. Bergeron is a National Artist for the Yamaha Corporation of America and is co-designer of the YTR-8335LA trumpet and YFH-8315G Flugelhorn. Bergeron also designed a series of trumpet mouthpieces with Gary Radtke of GR Technologies that are available through Bergeron's website. Bergeron was mentored by legends Uan Rasey, Bobby Shew, Warren Luening, Gary Grant, Rick Baptist, and George Graham. Bergeron hopes to inspire a new generation of young players and enjoys his work as a clinician and educator. “Nothing makes me feel more accomplished than hearing a young musician say that I inspired them or had a positive influence on their life. For me, that's the real payday.” Bergeron is currently on faculty at California State University Northridge. Perhaps Grammy winning composer and bandleader, Gordon Goodwin said it best, “Wayne is a once in a lifetime lead trumpet player.” About Jeff Bunnell Trumpeter Jeff Bunnell has enjoyed a successful career in many musically diverse settings. He is an active member of the Los Angeles freelance performing and recording community, and has been for over four decades. The many artists Jeff has worked and recorded with include Mel Torme, Ray Charles, Bob Dylan, Natalie Cole, Michel Legrand, Johnny Mathis, Tony Bennett, Robbie Williams, Paul McCartney, Seth MacFarlane, Rosemary Clooney, Paul Anka, Lou Rawls, Barry Manilow, Dianna Krall, Frank Sinatra Jr., David Sanborn, Diane Schuur, Brian Wilson, Tom Harrell, Steve Lawrence, Maroon 5, Michael Feinstein, Debby Boone, Andy Williams, Patti Austin, Brian Setzer, Jack Sheldon, Steve Allen, Marilyn McCoo, Engelbert Humperdink and Shirley Bassey. Jeff has toured with Ray Charles, Horace Silver and Poncho Sanchez. He has performed with many of the top big bands in Los Angeles including Tom Kubis, Bill Watrous, Alf Clausen, Johnny Mandel, Bill Holman, Arturo Sandoval, Gordon Goodwin's Phat Band, Les Hooper, Pete Christlieb, Pat Williams, Wayne Bergeron, Steve Spiegl, Carl Saunders and Bernie Dresel. He has recorded with many of these big bands including Ray Charles, Tom Kubis, Bill Watrous, Les Hooper, Pete Christlieb, Jack Sheldon, Brian Setzer, Wayne Bergeron, Steve Spiegl and Bernie Dresel. Jeff played the lead trumpet chair with the Carl Saunders Big Band, the Pete Christlieb Tall and Smail Band, and the Steve Spiegl Big Band. Currently Jeff plays one of the solo chairs with both The Tom Kubis Big Band and Bernie Dresel's BBB. Jeff has worked with many of the orchestras in Southern California including The Hollywood Symphony Orchestra, The Hollywood Bowl Orchestra, The Long Beach Symphony, The New West Symphony, The Pacific Symphony and The Pasadena Pops Orchestra. As a session player Jeff has played on hundreds of feature film and television soundtracks. His film credits of note include “Star Trek Beyond”, “Jurassic World”, “The Incredibles”, UP (Oscar winner for Best Soundtrack), and “O.J. Simpson: Made in America” – where Jeff is a featured soloist throughout the film (Oscar winner for Best Documentary Feature). His television credits include “Pennyworth”, “The Simpsons”, “Family Guy”, “Why Women Kill”, “American Dad”, “Parks and Recreation”, “Alias”, and “The Clone Wars” animated series. He has also played on hundreds of television and radio commercials, as well as the Academy Awards and the SAG Awards. As a musical theater pit musician, Jeff has played on more than 60 Broadway shows including “West Side Story”, “Phantom Of The Opera”, “Dream Girls”, “Into the Woods”, “Sophisticated Ladies”, “Jesus Christ Superstar” and “Titanic”. He has studied trumpet privately with Joe Alessi Sr., Boyde Hood, Bobby Shew, Claude Gordon and Uan Rasey. Jeff is currently a faculty trumpet and jazz instructor at The Master's University. Jeff is also a Bach Artist & Clinician. In addition to playing the trumpet, Jeff also works as an arranger, orchestrator, and conductor. He has orchestrated for film and television, as well as other areas of music such as Broadway Shows, cruise ship music and theme park music. His original big band charts can be found in the books of Arturo Sandoval, Bill Watrous, Jack Sheldon, Ron Jones, Emil Richards, Steve Spiegl and Bernie Dresel. He has published three transcribed jazz trumpet solo books through Aebersold Jazz. Links Listen to this episode online: https://bobreeves.com/blog/la-trumpet-ensemble/ Watch the video of this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/H2-vc5QQLpk    

Résumé : La carrière de Robert Altman se place sous le signe de la provocation, de l'iconoclasme, du défi. Surfant sur le vent de liberté apporté par le Nouvel Hollywood, il se lança dans une série d'aventures audacieuses, ne se pliant jamais ni aux diktats commerciaux ni à la mode. Réputé colérique et irascible, son attitude et son anticonformisme vont le faire bannir des studios avant un spectaculaire come-back au début des années 90. À l'occasion d'une rétrospective de son œuvre au festival Lumière à Lyon, Antoine Jullien vous replonge dans le monde de Robert Altman que le critique Robert Benayoun avait justement appelé « le chaos fertile ». Musiques : Bande originale du film Docteur T. et les femmes composée par Lyle Lovett Bande originale du film Le Privé composée par John Williams "Suicide in Painless" par Johnny Mandel "It Don't Worry Me" par Keith Carradine Bande originale du film The Player composée par Thomas Newman

Doug Stone talks to jazz musicians about life, music, recent and upcoming performances, equipment and current events on this Tenor Talk Podcast recording. A different jazz musician is featured in each episode.  This episode features Kirsten Edkins and was recorded February 13, 2020. Kirsten Edkins is an American saxophonist, composer and educator. A graduate of the Eastman School of music, Edkins became the first woman to perform in Bill Holman's Big Band. She has also been a member of several Grammy- award winning bands: John Beasley's MONK'estra, the Claire Fischer Band, Big Phat Band and the late composer Johnny Mandel's band. She's performed on many television shows, such as “American Idol”, “the Late, Late Show”, “Tonight Show” and “The Voice” where she's worked with artists like Pharrell Williams, Katherine McPhee, Kelly Clarkson, Adam Levine and Blake Shelton. She has a private studio in Southern California, has taught at the Pasadena Conservatory of Music, Bill Green Mentorship for the LA Jazz Institute, Monterey Jazz Camp,  Stanford Jazz Camp, and Idyllwild Performing Arts. She is a proud  D'Addario Winds Artist and plays Retro Revival mouthpieces.Learn more about Kirsten here: https://www.kirstenedkinsmusic.com https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7kMuikSH6hb4DCdI4KDTasHJftaAPcrU Let's connect: Website: https://www.dougstonejazz.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dougstonejazzsaxophone/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100089874145057 If you want to learn more about jazz improvisation and be part of the Doug Stone Jazz community get on our email list! https://www.dougstonejazz.com/about Head over to the Doug Stone Jazz Shop for some fun jazz merch: https://www.dougstonejazz.com/product-page/just-play-the-changes-long-sleeved-shirt #dougstonejazz #jazz #podcast #musicianlife #musicians #tenorsaxophone #jazzmusicians #jazzinterview #musicianlife

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Sinatra swings the Cole Porter classic, In the Still of the Night.  From the 1961 album Ring-a-Ding-Ding!. Arranged and conducted by Johnny Mandel. Credits:Theme music by Erik Blicker and Glenn SchlossEdited by Katie CaliMixing and mastering by Amit Zangi Send comments to sinatramatters@gmail.com

Del disco 'Migrants', del caboverdiano Mário Lúcio, 'Migrants (Shakespearience)', 'Querença', 'Canto a Yemanjá' y 'Clave de fé'. El francés Baptiste Trotignon toca 'Emily', de Johnny Mandel, 'So in love', de Cole Porter, y 'Chega de saudade', de Jobim, en su disco de piano solo 'Body and soul'. Del disco del brasileño Lucas Santtana 'O paraíso' la canción que le da título, 'What´s life', 'Errare humanum est', de Jorge Ben, 'The fool on the hill', de The Beatles, y 'A transmissão'. Despide el también brasileño Fabiano do Nascimento con 'Solo as onze (Noite suite)' de su disco 'Lendas'. Escuchar audio

Harvey Brownstone conducts an in-depth interview with Angela Hagenbach, Acclaimed Jazz Vocalist About Harvey's guest: Today's guest, Angela Hagenbach, is one of America's most popular jazz singers, whose extraordinary 3-octave vocal range, unique phrasing and ebullient singing style make every song she sings truly her own – and very memorable.    With her sultry contralto voice, she sings everything from swinging, straightforward jazz and blues to sensual, rhythmic Latin Jazz with effortless agility.  She's recorded 6 albums entitled, “Come Fly With Me”, “Feel the Magic”, “Weaver of Dreams”, “Poetry of Love”, “Musa Nova”, and her latest album, “The Way They Make Me Feel”, beautifully produced by the brilliant George Klabin of Resonance Records, who selected some classic songs by Michel Legrand, Henry Mancini and Johnny Mandel.  It's been said by more than one music critic – and I agree – that when this woman sings, she has the uncanny ability to turn jazz into a spiritual experience.   In 2015 she finished as 1st runner-up at the Sarah Vaughan Jazz Vocal Competition.  That same year, she wrote the acclaimed “Jazz Alice: An Adventure in Wonderland”, a musical theatre production based on Lewis Carroll's classic book, set to the music of John Coltrane.   She performs regularly at jazz clubs and concert venues in her home town of Kansas City, as well as around the country, and internationally.   The renowned jazz historian Scott Yanow listed our guest as one of the greatest jazz singers of all time in his book, “The Great Jazz Singers: The Ultimate Guide”.   And if that weren't enough, our guest was TWICE chosen by the US State Department to represent the United States as a Cultural Jazz Ambassador in TWO world tours, starting at the Kennedy Center and performing in 17 countries. For more interviews and podcasts go to: https://www.harveybrownstoneinterviews.com/https://angelahagenbach.co/https://www.facebook.com/angela.hagenbach.1https://www.instagram.com/angelahagenbach/https://angelahagenbach.bandcamp.com/album/the-way-they-make-me-feelhttps://music.apple.com/us/artist/angela-hagenbach/4582211https://resonancerecords.org/artists/angela-hagenbach/ #AngelaHagenbach   #harveybrownstoneinterviews

Words & music by Johnny Mandel & Mike Altman Scott Kuchler - vocals, guitar

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 In honour of what would be the composer's 97th birthday this past week, Mondo Hollywood celebrates Johnny Mandel's career in soundtracks in this rebroadcast from 2020.Music from the films such as MASH, The Sandpiper, Point Blank, and much more!Set lists available at www.mondohollywood.ca 

Unleashed musical imagination from Frank Sinatra. Here is Harold Arlen and Ted Koehler's Let's Fall in Love from Sinatra's 1961 album Ring-a-Ding-Ding!. Arranged and conducted by Johnny Mandel. Credits: Theme music by Erik Blicker and Glenn Schloss Edited by Katie Cali Mixing and mastering by Amit Zangi Send comments to sinatramatters@gmail.com

durée : 00:58:16 - « A Time for Love » musique Johnny Mandel & paroles Paul Francis Webster (1966) - par : Laurent Valero - "Ballade écrite pour le film de Robert Gist, An American Dream, signée Johnny Mandel compositeur, arrangeur, dans le monde du jazz et du cinéma, co-écrite avec le parolier Paul Francis Webster spécialisé dans le théâtre & le cinéma, qui remporta 3 fois l'Oscar de la meilleure chanson" Laurent Valero - réalisé par : Antoine Courtin

durée : 00:58:16 - « A Time for Love » musique Johnny Mandel & paroles Paul Francis Webster (1966) - par : Laurent Valero - "Ballade écrite pour le film de Robert Gist, An American Dream, signée Johnny Mandel compositeur, arrangeur, dans le monde du jazz et du cinéma, co-écrite avec le parolier Paul Francis Webster spécialisé dans le théâtre & le cinéma, qui remporta 3 fois l'Oscar de la meilleure chanson" Laurent Valero - réalisé par : Antoine Courtin

durée : 01:56:06 - Retour de plage du mercredi 03 août 2022 - par : Laurent Valero - C'est la tradition dans Retour de plage, le mercredi est consacré à la musique de film sous toutes ses formes. Entre BO et reprises sans oublier la chanson … Au programme Johnny Mandel, Ennio Morricone, Herbert Pagani, Roy Budd, Francis Lai, Dave Grusin... - réalisé par : Yassine Bouzar

De Amerikaanse filmcomponist en muzikant Johnny Mandel is Dood maar niet vergeten. Hij overleed op 29 juni 2020 op 94-jarige leeftijd. Johnny Mandel werd in 1925 in New York geboren. Hij was de zoon van Hannah en Alfred Mandel. Zijn vader was een kledingfabrikant en zijn moeder operazangeres. Zijn moeder ontdekte dat hij een absoluut gehoor had. […]

A song I wish Frank Sinatra had recorded . . . but we do have Tony Bennett. Here is Johnny Mercer's I Remember You from Tony Bennett's 2004 Grammy Award winning album, The Art of Romance. With a wonderful Johnny Mandel arrangement. Credits: Theme music by Erik Blicker and Glenn Schloss Edited by Katie Cali Send comments to sinatramatters@gmail.com

CLICK TO SUBSCRIBE ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCATCHER CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of vegetative states, ambulance chasing, right-to-die laws, sexual harassment, lying, manipulation. Our final film of this series takes us into the courtroom in a way few films rarely do. The courtroom drama can be wild, fantastic, and even a bit haughty. But this movie dares to go into the grit and grime of medical malpractice and expose the cost of justice. There's no frills on this movie, no wasted moments, and while the story's missing a little bit of context, it's a masterclass in courtroom storytelling. And then there's the cast, with a murderer's row of performances from some of the best in the business, giving nuanced, crafted performances that take a very good story and make it incredibly grounded and real. We discuss The Verdict this week on Macintosh & Maud Haven't Seen What?! You can email us with feedback at macintoshandmaud@gmail.com, or you can connect with us on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook. Also please subscribe, rate and review the show on your favorite podcatcher, and tell your friends. Intro and outro music taken from the Second Movement of Ludwig von Beethoven's 9th Symphony. Licensed under an Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Hong Kong (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0 HK) license. To hear the full performance or get more information, visit the song page at the Internet Archive. Excerpt taken from the score the motion picture The Verdict. Composed by Johnny Mandel. © 1982 Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation. Excerpt from the motion picture The Verdict are © 1982 Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation. Excerpt taken from the telecast of the 55th Academy Awards Ceremony, broadcast by ABC on April 11, 1983. Music arranged and conducted by Bill Conti.

Maggie and extraordinary pianist and arranger,  Alan Broadbent discuss the 30th Anniversary of Unforgettable… with Love, the legendary singer and songwriter Natalie Cole's biggest album to date. Since its initial release in 1991, it has sold over seven million copies and also won Cole seven GRAMMY© Awards. The album features Cole singing several songs her father Nat King Cole recorded, nearly 20 years after she initially refused to cover her father's songs during live concerts. Cole produced vocal arrangements for the songs, with piano accompaniment by her uncle Ike Cole and many other first rate pianists and arrangers. The album's title track, an interactive duet with her father, would go on to be one of her most memorable recordings.Alan Broadbent was born in Auckland, New Zealand and in 1966, at the age of 19, received a Downbeat Magazine scholarship to attend Berklee College of Music in Boston. In 1969 he was asked to join Woody Herman's band as his pianist and arranger for 3 years. In 1972 he settled in Los Angeles, beginning a musical relationship with the legendary singer Irene Kral (no relation to Diana Krall). Soon he was also invited into the studio scene as a pianist for the great Nelson Riddle, David Rose and Johnny Mandel. In the early 90s he was asked to be a part of Natalie Cole's famous “Unforgettable” cd, at which time he toured as her pianist and, a little while later, as her conductor. At this time he wrote an orchestral arrangement for her second video with her dad, “When I Fall In Love”, which won him his first Grammy Award for “best orchestral arrangement accompanying a vocal”.Turning PointsShortly after, he became a member of Charlie Haden's Quartet West, touring the festivals of Europe, UK and the USA. It was while with this group that he won his second Grammy, an orchestral accompaniment written for Shirley Horn of Leonard Bernstein's “Lonely Town”.As a soloist and with his jazz trio, Broadbent has been nominated for Grammys twice for best instrumental performance, in the company of such artists as Herbie Hancock, Sonny Rollins and Keith Jarrett. In 2007 he was awarded the New Zealand Order of Merit, an honor he holds in high regard.The NowBroadbent is Diana Krall's conductor for her occasional orchestra concerts and is the conductor on her “Live in Paris” DVD. Recently he has been the arranger on Glenn Frey's cd with strings, “After Hours”, and wrote six string arrangements for Sir Paul McCartney's “Kisses On The Bottom” with the London Symphony. He has just returned from solo piano concerts in the UK, Poland and France.It has been his lifelong goal, through his orchestral arrangements and jazz improvisations, to discover, in popular music and standard songs, deeper feelings of communication and love.Source: https://craftrecordings.com/products/natalie-cole-unforgettable-with-love-30th-anniversary-edition-cdSource: https://www.alanbroadbent.comThis episode is from an archive from the KPFK program Profiles adapted for podcast. Host Maggie LePique, a radio veteran since the 1980's at NPR in Kansas City Mo. She began her radio career in Los Angeles in the early 1990's and has worked for Pacifica station KPFK Radio in Los Angeles since 1994. Support the show

CLICK TO SUBSCRIBE ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCATCHER CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of the Holocaust, death of a child, genocide, concentration camps, Auschwitz, mental illness, antisemitism, fascism, war. This week's film has been seared into the collective moviegoing memory based on a single, powerful, heartbreaking scene. And yet that scene is meant solely as the culmination of what is, in all honesty, a soap opera romance. In fact, if it weren't for some incredible acting, this movie would be pure pulp trash because it actively avoids the point at all turns. It's strange, too, because a few simple structural changes would make this story into a near masterpiece, tying together the trauma of the past with the tragedy of the present. But instead we're left with an incredibly well-acted mess, and a handful of incredibly powerful moments that don't add up to a full story. We discuss Sophie's Choice this week on Macintosh & Maud Haven't Seen What?! You can email us with feedback at macintoshandmaud@gmail.com, or you can connect with us on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook. Also please subscribe, rate and review the show on your favorite podcatcher, and tell your friends. Intro and outro music taken from the Second Movement of Ludwig von Beethoven's 9th Symphony. Licensed under an Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Hong Kong (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0 HK) license. To hear the full performance or get more information, visit the song page at the Internet Archive. Excerpt taken from “Love Theme” from the motion picture soundtrack to Sophie's Choice. Composed by Marvin Hamlisch. © 1983 Fifth Continent Music Classics, successor in interest Southern Cross Records, Inc. Excerpt taken from the score the motion picture The Verdict. Composed by Johnny Mandel. © 1982 Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation.

In a show with real Seoul, Ryan reveals who Jack ‘O Lantern was, and how he managed to find his way to South Korea. He also takes Pete on a tour of South Korea's spooky characters and shares some great news for those of you who enjoy farming on your mobile phones. History Happened Everywhere!   Thanks: MASH Theme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlkxcC79LA8); The Hollywood Prime Time Orchestra; Johnny Mandel; [Merlin] IDOL Distribution (on behalf of Playtime); UNIAO BRASILEIRA DE EDITORAS DE MUSICA - UBEM, Warner Chappell, LatinAutor - Warner Chappell, LatinAutorPerf, and 4 music rights societies South Korea National Anthem Instrumental (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN3wzPR0O7I) 강남스타일 (Gangnam Style), Psy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0); YG Entertainment Inc. (Music) (on behalf of Universal Republic Records); LatinAutor - UMPG, LatinAutor - SonyATV, Sony ATV Publishing, UMPG Publishing, UMPI, ASCAP, UNIAO BRASILEIRA DE EDITORAS DE MUSICA - UBEM, CMRRA, LatinAutorPerf, and 23 music rights societies    Contact us: hhepodcast.com hhepodcast@gmail.com instagram.com/hhepodcast https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMegovGJ6/ twitter.com/HHEPodcast facebook.com/HHEPod Reddit.com/r/hhepodcast

"Fronted by the husband-and-wife team of Win Butler and Régine Chassagne, the Arcade Fire's emotional debut -- rendered even more poignant by the dedications to recently departed family members contained in its liner notes -- is brave, empowering, and dusted with something that many of the indie rock genre's more contrived acts desperately lack: an element of real danger. Funeral's mourners -- specifically Butler and Chassagne -- inhabit the same post-apocalyptic world as London Suede's Dog Man Star; they are broken, beaten, and ferociously romantic, reveling in the brutal beauty of their surroundings like a heathen Adam & Eve. "Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)," the first of four metaphorical forays into the geography of the soul, follows a pair of young lovers who meet in the middle of the town through tunnels that connect to their bedrooms. Over a soaring piano lead that's effectively doubled by distorted guitar, they reach a Lord of the Flies-tinged utopia where they can't even remember their names or the faces of their weeping parents. Butler sings like a lion-tamer whose whip grows shorter with each and every lash. He can barely contain himself, and when he lets loose it's both melodic and primal, like Berlin-era Bowie. "Neighborhood #2 (Laïka)" examines suicidal desperation through an angular Gang of Four prism; the hypnotic wash of strings and subtle meter changes of "Neighborhood #4 (7 Kettles)" winsomely capture the mundane doings of day-to-day existence; and "Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)," Funeral's victorious soul-thumping core, is a goose bump-inducing rallying cry centered around the notion that "the power's out in the heart of man, take it from your heart and put it in your hand." Arcade Fire are not bereft of whimsy. "Crown of Love" is like a wedding cake dropped in slow motion, utilizing a Johnny Mandel-style string section and a sweet, soda-pop-stand chorus to provide solace to a jilted lover yearning for a way back into the fold, and "Haiti" relies on a sunny island melody to explore the complexities of Chassagne's mercurial homeland. However, it's the sheer power and scope of cuts like "Wake Up" -- featuring all 15 musicians singing in unison -- and the mesmerizing, early-Roxy Music pulse of "Rebellion (Lies)" that make Funeral the remarkable achievement that it is. These are songs that pump blood back into the heart as fast and furiously as it's draining from the sleeve on which it beats, and by the time Chassagne dissects her love of riding "In the Backseat" with the radio on, despite her desperate fear of driving, Funeral's singular thread is finally revealed; love does conquer all, especially love for the cathartic power of music." - James Christopher Monger, All MusicSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/polyphonic-press1229/donations

Today's guest is Jake Reed. Jake is a Los Angeles-based session player / educator and the host of an incredible YouTube Channel breaking down recording techniques….(also, I must give a big shoutout to Blair Sinta for inspiring me to reach out to Jake after hearing him as a guest on the “Recording Drums with Blair Sinta” podcast). On top of knowing how to explain things in an extremely approachable way, Jake is simply an amazing drummer. He's performed / recorded with trioKAIT, Bill Holman, Johnny Mandel, Bill Cunliffe, Bruce Forman, Cow Bop, Seth MacFarlane, the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra, the Los Angeles Philharmonic, Matt Forbes, Larry Goldings, Anthony Wilson, Adam Levy, Bob Mintzer, Les McCann, Freda Payne, the Long Beach Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Synowiec, Mako, Ellis Hall, Tommy Torres, and Frenship.  He's even been asked to sub for Peter Erskine soooooo there's that. I love his overall energy and perspective on this often-too-serious world of drumming and I knew his choices would expand my own palate and (since I'm recording this after our conversion) I can confidently say I was rightt…just like always! Anyways….I have a feeling Jake will be a recurring guest on this podcast in many facets…so I hope you like this one. If you don't. Just push PLAY while your phone is on mute because it's all about those numbers baby. Cheers.   Check out Jake's online store HERE Check out trioKAIT's online store HERE Podcast Artwork by Trevin Frame For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok

Today's guest is Jake Reed. Jake is a Los Angeles-based session player / educator and the host of an incredible YouTube Channel breaking down recording techniques….(also, I must give a big shoutout to Blair Sinta for inspiring me to reach out to Jake after hearing him as a guest on the “Recording Drums with Blair Sinta” podcast). On top of knowing how to explain things in an extremely approachable way, Jake is simply an amazing drummer. He's performed / recorded with trioKAIT, Bill Holman, Johnny Mandel, Bill Cunliffe, Bruce Forman, Cow Bop, Seth MacFarlane, the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra, the Los Angeles Philharmonic, Matt Forbes, Larry Goldings, Anthony Wilson, Adam Levy, Bob Mintzer, Les McCann, Freda Payne, the Long Beach Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Synowiec, Mako, Ellis Hall, Tommy Torres, and Frenship.  He's even been asked to sub for Peter Erskine soooooo there's that. I love his overall energy and perspective on this often-too-serious world of drumming and I knew his choices would expand my own palate and (since I'm recording this after our conversion) I can confidently say I was rightt…just like always! Anyways….I have a feeling Jake will be a recurring guest on this podcast in many facets…so I hope you like this one. If you don't. Just push PLAY while your phone is on mute because it's all about those numbers baby. Cheers.   Check out Jake's online store HERE Check out trioKAIT's online store HERE Podcast Artwork by Trevin Frame For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jack Wilson is sadly not a household name but should be better known. He was a very fine pianist who reflected the influences of Hank jones and Tommy Flanagan...in other words a pianist with a light lyrical touch. He was also a fine composer. He was born in Chicago on Aug. 3,1936 and died at age 71 on Oct.5,2007. He recorded for Atlantic records and then did 3 albums for Blue Note and tonight's Jazz feature is the very best of the Blue Note three. It features a hand-picked band by Mr. Wilson that includes Lee Morgan on trumpet, Jackie McLean on alto saxophone, Garnett Brown on trombone, Bob Cranshaw on bass and Billy Higgins on drums. Wilson wrote 4 of the six compositions and arranged them all. A trio track with just bass and drums has Jack Wilson interpreting Johnny Mandel's beautiful tune, "A Time For Love". The other non Wilson tune played by the full band is by saxophonist Frank Strozier and called appropriately enough "Frank's Tune". ""Easterly Winds" is a minor classic and should be better known and tonight it is The Jazz Show's Jazz Feature.

Jake Reed is a professional drummer based in Los Angeles, who is quickly gaining a reputation for his ability to fit into a variety of musical situations. He has performed/recorded with trioKAIT, Bill Holman, Johnny Mandel, Bill Cunliffe, Bruce Forman, Cow Bop, Seth MacFarlane, the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra, the Los Angeles Philharmonic, Matt Forbes, Larry Goldings, Anthony Wilson, Adam Levy, Bob Mintzer, Les McCann, Freda Payne, the Long Beach Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Synowiec, Mako, Ellis Hall, Tommy Torres, and Frenship. - https://jakereedmusic.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/blair-sinta/support

Jake Reed is a professional drummer based in Los Angeles, who is quickly gaining a reputation for his ability to fit into a variety of musical situations. He has performed/recorded with trioKAIT, Bill Holman, Johnny Mandel, Bill Cunliffe, Bruce Forman, Cow Bop, Seth MacFarlane, the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra, the Los Angeles Philharmonic, Matt Forbes, Larry Goldings, Anthony Wilson, Adam Levy, Bob Mintzer, Les McCann, Freda Payne, the Long Beach Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Synowiec, Mako, Ellis Hall, Tommy Torres, and Frenship. - https://jakereedmusic.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/blair-sinta/support

Storytime  I want to take you back, back in time to a hot June night in 1980 and tell you a story about that time. [cue sound effect] I'm 11 years old and I'm recovering from a third spinal surgery after two previous cervical fusions failed.  I'm feeling terrible.  I'm in a dark, cold hospital room in a university hospital, just out of post-op and back on the pediatric unit 104 miles from home, immobilized in a full body cast and halo brace, recovering from puking from the general anesthetic, afraid that this surgery failed like the other two.  My confidence in surgeons is at a low ebb.  The room smells of antiseptic and isolation.   Back in those unenlightened days, visiting hours were really limited, so my parents aren't there.  But I'm not alone.  My sick toddler roommate is lying face down in his crib, sobbing inconsolably.   No one comes for him.  “Nothing can be done for him -- this will pass,” the professionals had told me when I pressed the call button for him.   So I don't bother with the call button anymore.  I can't think of anything to do for him either.  I feel like he does.  We're both miserable.  I am in the darkest hour of my life to that point.  I'm beginning to wonder if the rest of my life will be a series of horrible, painful, failed surgeries, nighttime isolation and helplessness.   So what does little Petey Guy do at the point?  My aunt Marlene always used to call me Petey Guy when I was that age.  Petey Guy starts to sing.  Yes, that's right, I start singing.  Do you know what I was singing?  Was the 1959 Julie Andrews version of "My Favorite Things" from The Sound of Music?  No it wasn't.   The Beatles" 1969 classic "Here comes the Sun" by George Harrison?  It was not.   Was it the 1977 show tune "The Sun will Come out Tomorrow" from the musical Annie?  Nope.  Guess again.   Gloria Gaynor's smash hit in 1977 "I will survive"?  Wrong.   "Don't Stop" by Fleetwood Mac, also in 1977?  No.   How about "Don't Stop Believin" by Journey -- that was it, right.  Come on, people.  "Don't Stop Believin" came out in 1981.  We're in 1980. So chronologically, that wouldn't make sense.    No, I was singing a different song, a darker song than any of those,  a 1970 song with lyrics written by 14 year old Michael Altman, put to music by his father Robert Altman and sung by Johnny Mandel.  A song written for the 1970 movie MASH.  Some of you may be following this now.  I was singing a song called Suicide is Painless.   You're probably familiar with the tune.  After the surprise success of the movie, Robert Altman chose it to be the instrumental opening for the hugely popular MASH comedy-drama series that ran on CBS from 1972 to 1983.  So even though you know the tune, you might not be familiar with the gaunt, haunting, despairing lyrics.  Here's the opening stanza: Through early morning fog I see   Visions of the things to beThe pains that are withheld for meI realize and I can seeThat suicide is painlessIt brings on many changesAnd I can take or leave it if I please So a little backstory.  My Grandpa Roberts had a magnus chord organ  1960's very popular, lots on the second hand market.  Chords press a button with left hand, keyboard with the right.  We had one too.   Grandpa Roberts had a songbook of popular tune to play on the Magnus Chord Organ --- including Suicide is Painless   I recognized the theme from MASH, and it was one of very few songs I learned to play on the Magnus Chord Organ, and I sang the lyrics as I played.  But they didn't particularly resonate with me until that post-surgical night in 1980, in the dark, sick, and alone with the crying toddler when my 11 year old heart was so burdened and breaking.   Nobody noticed my singing about suicide in the night -- my toddler roommate didn't seem to care.  And it wasn't until almost 40 years later that I ever told anyone about it.   Intro Welcome to the podcast Interior Integration for Catholics, thank you for being here with me.   I no longer go by "Petey Guy," I am better known as clinical psychologist Peter Malinoski  The reason this Interior Integration for Catholics podcasts exists is to help you toward  loving God, neighbor and yourself in an ordered, healthy, holy way. -- It's about tolerating being loved, and about loving about living out the two great commandments to the hilt, with all of our being, it's about overcoming the natural obstacles to reaching more of our potential, both in the natural and the spiritual realms.   Because we take on the tough topics in this podcast, today we are getting into the difficult and complex topic of suicide/  Suicide.  Even the word can send shivers up the spine.   This episode is titled IIC 76  The Black of Suicide -- What Do the Secular Experts Say? and it's released on July 12, 2021  Today we are looking at the best of current psychological and sociological research --  Episode 73.  St. Augustine De Doctrina Christiana. Chapter 40   is a theological text on how to interpret and teach the Scriptures. Moreover, if those who are called philosophers, and especially the Platonists, have said anything that is true and in harmony with our faith, we are not only not to shrink from it, but to claim it for our own use.  all branches of heathen learning have not only false and superstitious fancies and heavy burdens of unnecessary toil, which we ought to abhor and avoid; but they contain also liberal instruction which is better adapted to the use of the truth, and some most excellent precepts of morality; and some truths in regard even to the worship of the One God are found among them. Now these are, so to speak, their gold and silver, which they did not create themselves, but dug out of the mines of God's providence which are everywhere scattered abroad   In future episode, we will bring in a lot more of the wisdom of the Catholic Church . And in future episodes, we will bring in more Internal Family Systems thinking about our parts and suicide, fascinating stuff there And in future episodes we will be discussing the impact of suicide on parents, spouses, siblings, children and friends who experienced suicide through the death of a loved one.   So we are at the beginning of a series of episodes on suicide.  This is a critical topic -- A 2017 Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey of 1000 American Adults finds that 55%  know someone who has committed suicide. One from my 8th grade graduating class  One for two classes behind me in high school     Let's do an etymological analysis of the word suicide -- you know how much I like to break down words on this podcast, so it's Time for Word Lore [cue sound effect]  Where does the English word Suicide come from? "deliberate killing of oneself," 1650s, from Modern Latin suicidium "suicide," from Latin sui "of oneself" (genitive of se "self") + -cidium "a killing," from caedere "to slay" or to strike oneself.   How serious is suicide?  Lets look the research, let's look at suicide this by the numbers [cue sound effect]  Fast Facts How many suicides worldwide each year?  About 800,000.   About 10 in 100,000 people die each year from suicide Worldwide, suicide accounts for 1.4% of all deaths.   Wide range of suicide rates.  98.3 per 100,000 in Greenland, 1.56 per 100,000 in Jamaica.  63X higher.   How many suicides in the US?  Drawing from CDC and NIMH According to the Center for Disease Control in 2020 -- 44.834 recorded suicides  14.5 deaths per 100,000 population  US Men more than 3X as likely as US women to suicide  Women 1.4X likely as men to attempt suicide -- use less lethal means  Long trend up from 1999 to 2017, leveled off and trending down over last three years.   How do people suicide Just a hair over 50% use a firearm  29% are by suffocation  13% are by poisoning   Catholics and suicide  Data from over the last century consistently reveal that Catholics have a lower suicide rate than Protestants.  Not a huge effect, but a persistent one, going all the way back to early social science measurement efforts in 1897 -- Emile Durkheim's work..  Even when controlling for a lot of variables, the denominational effect persisted.  Various factors proposed Fear of Hell, mortal sin -- Protestants more accepting of suicide  More communitarian approach than individualistic approach to religion and faith   Types of Suicide  Emile Durkheim -- French philosopher and early sociologist in the late 19 and early 20th Century -- principal architect, along with Max Weber of modern social sciences.  He created a normative theory of suicide focusing on the conditions of group life. Proposing four different types of suicide, which include egoistic, altruistic, anomic, and fatalistic, Durkheim began his theory by plotting social regulation on the x-axis of his chart, and social integration on the y-axis. Drawing from a blog post on the Management Development Institute of Singapore website by Dr Amir Singh from March 30, 2020  Egoistic suicide corresponds to a low level of social integration. When one is not well integrated into a social group it can lead to a feeling that they have not made a difference in anyone's lives.  when a man becomes socially isolated or feels that he has no place in the society he destroys himself. This is the suicide of self-centered person who lacks altruistic feelings and is usually cut off from main stream of the society. It is committed by individuals who are social outcast and see themselves as being alone or an outsider. These individuals are unable to find their own place in society and have problems adjusting to groups. They received little and no social care. Suicide is seen as a solution for them to free themselves from loneliness or excessive individuation.   Altruistic suicide corresponds to too much social integration. This occurs when a group dominates the life of an individual to a degree where they feel meaningless to society.  Altruistic suicide occurs when social group involvement is too high. Individuals are so well integrated into the group that they are willing to sacrifice their own life in order to fulfil some obligation for the group. Individuals kill themselves for the collective benefit of the group or for the cause that the group believes in. An example is someone who commits suicide for the sake of a religious or political cause, such as the infamous Japanese Kamikaze pilots of World War II, or the hijackers that crashed the airplanes into the World Trade Centre, the Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania in 2001. During World War II, Japanese Kamikaze pilots were willing to lay down their own lives for their countries in the hope that they will win the war. These pilots believed in their nation's cause and were willing to sacrifice their lives. Similarly, suicide bombers around the world were willing to give up their lives in order to make a political or religious statement because they firmly believed in their group's cause.   Anomic suicide occurs when one has an insufficient amount of social regulation. This stems from the sociological term anomie, meaning a sense of aimlessness or despair that arises from the inability to reasonably expect life to be predictable.  This type of suicide is due to certain breakdown of social equilibrium, such as, suicide after bankruptcy or after winning a lottery. In other words, anomic suicide takes place in a situation which has cropped up suddenly.  Anomic suicide is caused by the lack of social regulation and it occurs during high levels of stress and frustration. Anomic suicide stems from sudden and unexpected changes in situations. For example, when individuals suffer extreme financial loss, the disappointment and stress that individuals face may drive them towards committing suicide as a means of escape.   Fatalistic suicide results from too much social regulation. An example of this would be when one follows the same routine day after day. This leads to a belief that there is nothing good to look forward to. Durkheim suggested this was the most popular form of suicide for prisoners.  This type of suicide is due to overregulation in society. Under the overregulation of a society, when a servant or slave commits suicide, when a barren woman commits suicide, it is the example of fatalistic suicide.  Fatalistic suicide occurs when individuals are kept under tight regulation. These individuals are placed under extreme rules or high expectations are set upon them, which removes a person's sense of self or individuality. Slavery and persecution are examples of fatalistic suicide where individuals may feel that they are destined by fate to be in such conditions and choose suicide as the only means of escaping such conditions. In South Korea, celebrities are being put under strict regulations. There was a case where, a singer committed suicide due to exhaustion to keep up with society's rules and regulations. In 2017, celebrity Kim Jonghyun ended his life due to severe depression and the pressure of being in the spotlight as he felt that he  could not fulfil the society's expectations  of his performance (Lee, 2018).   Inadvertent or accidental Suicide  Example -- the Choking Game AKA Pass out challenge, flatlining, space monkey -- people strangle themselves to experience a euphoric high -- autoerotic asphyxiation.  Discussed this briefly in Episode 69.   Example -- drug overdose, heroine laced with fentanyl.   Example -- Driving while impaired with alcohol   Indirect Suicide -- not taking care of oneself -- poor health habits Smoking  Poor diabetes management  Risky driving  Excessive alcohol or drug use   Assisted Suicide -- also known as Mercy killing Risk Factors for Suicide  Commonly cited risk factors  VeryWell Mind By Nancy Schimelpfening reviewing recent research findings February 19, 2021  Mental Illness Most common -- severe depression -- blue deepening into black  Bipolar disorder -- the orange  Borderline Personality Disorder  Eating Disorders  Schizophrenia  I have a very different understanding of what's going with these conditions.   Traumatic Stress  Substance Use and Impulsivity   Loss or a fear of Loss Academic failure  Being arrested or imprisoned  Bullying, shaming, or humiliation, including cyberbullying   Financial problems  End of a close friendship or romantic relationship  Job loss  Loss of friends or family acceptance due to revealing your sexual orientation  Loss of social status   Hopelessness  Chronic Pain or Medical Illness  Feeling like a burden to others  Social Isolation  A Cry for Help -- not a cry for attention  Accidental Suicide   From Suicide Prevention Resource Center website Prior suicide attempt(s)   Misuse and abuse of alcohol or other drugs   Mental disorders, particularly depression and other mood disorders  Access to lethal means  Knowing someone who died by suicide, particularly a family member  Social isolation  Chronic disease and disability  Lack of access to behavioral health care   Precipitating factors are stressful events that can trigger a suicidal crisis in a vulnerable person.  Examples include: End of a relationship or marriage  Death of a loved one   An arrest    Serious financial problems Robin Hood investor   Nevada Division of Public and Behavioral Health (DPBH) Office of Suicide Prevention  -- Myths and Facts of Youth Suicide Sources    National Mental Health Association    Youth Suicide Prevention Education Program    The Trevor Project MYTH: Talking about suicide or asking someone if they feel suicidal will encourage suicide attempts. FACT: Talking about suicide provides the opportunity for communication. Fears shared are more likely to diminish. The first step in encouraging a person with thoughts of suicide to live comes from talking about those feelings. A simple inquiry about whether or not the person is intending to end their life can start the conversation. However, talking about suicide should be carefully managed. MYTH: Young people who talk about suicide never attempt or die by suicide. FACT: Talking about suicide can be a plea for help and it can be a late sign in the progression towards a suicide attempt. Those who are most at risk will show other signs apart from talking about suicide. If you have concerns about a young person who talks about suicide:     Encourage him/her to talk further and help them to find appropriate counseling assistance.    Ask if the person are thinking about making a suicide attempt.    Ask if the person has a plan.    Think about the completeness of the plan and how dangerous it is. Do not trivialise plans that seem less complete or less dangerous. All suicidal intentions are serious and must be acknowledged as such.    Encourage the young person to develop a personal safety plan. This can include time spent with others, check-in points with significant adults/ plans for the future. MYTH: A promise to keep a note unopened and unread should always be kept. FACT: Where the potential for harm, or actual harm, is disclosed then confidentiality cannot be maintained. A sealed note with the request for the note not to be opened is a very strong indicator that something is seriously amiss. A sealed note is a late sign in the progression towards suicide. MYTH: Suicide attempts or deaths happen without warning. FACT: The survivors of a suicide often say that the intention was hidden from them. It is more likely that the intention was just not recognized. These warning signs include:  These are really important     The recent suicide, or death by other means, of a friend or relative.    Previous suicide attempts.    Preoccupation with themes of death or expressing suicidal thoughts.    Depression, conduct disorder and problems with adjustment such as substance abuse, particularly when two or more of these are present.    Giving away prized possessions/ making a will or other final arrangements.    Major changes in sleep patterns - too much or too little.    Sudden and extreme changes in eating habits/ losing or gaining weight.    Withdrawal from friends/ family or other major behavioral changes.    Dropping out of group activities.    Personality changes such as nervousness, outbursts of anger, impulsive or reckless behavior, or apathy about appearance or health.    Frequent irritability or unexplained crying.     Lingering expressions of unworthiness or failure.    Lack of interest in the future.    A sudden lifting of spirits, when there have been other indicators, may point to a decision to end the pain of life through suicide. MYTH: If a person attempts suicide and survives, they will never make a further attempt.FACT: A suicide attempt is regarded as an indicator of further attempts. It is likely that the level of danger will increase with each further suicide attempt. MYTH: Once a person is intent on suicide, there is no way of stopping them.FACT: Suicides can be prevented. People can be helped. Suicidal crises can be relatively short-lived. Immediate practical help such as staying with the person, encouraging them to talk and helping them build plans for the future, can avert the intention to attempt or die by suicide. Such immediate help is valuable at a time of crisis, but appropriate counseling will then be required. MYTH: People who threaten suicide are just seeking attention.FACT: All suicide attempts must be treated as though the person has the intent to die. Do not dismiss a suicide attempt as simply being an attention-gaining device. It is likely the young person has tried to gain attention and, therefore, this attention is needed. The attention they get may well save their lives. -- Thinking of it as calling out for help.  Pejorative -- drama queen.   MYTH: Suicide is hereditary.FACT: Although suicide can be over-represented in families, attempts are not genetically inherited. Members of families share the same emotional environment, and the death by suicide of one family member may well raise the awareness of suicide as an option for other family members. MYTH: Only certain types of people become suicidal. -- My exampleFACT: Everyone has the potential for suicide. The evidence shows disposing conditions may lead to either suicide attempts or deaths. It is unlikely those who do not have the predisposing conditions (for example, depression, conduct disorder, substance abuse, feeling of rejection, rage, emotional pain and anger) will die by suicide. MYTH: Suicide is painless.  -- Remember the Song? FACT: Many suicide methods are very painful. Fictional portrayals of suicide do not usually include the reality of the pain.  Maybe 14 year old Michael Altman wasn't entirely correct. MYTH: Depression and self-destructive behavior are rare in young people.FACT: Both forms of behavior are common in adolescents. Depression may manifest itself in ways which are different from its manifestation in adults but it is prevalent in children and adolescents. Self-destructive behavior is most likely to be shown for the first time in adolescence and its incidence is on the rise. MYTH: All young people with thoughts of suicide are depressed.FACT: While depression is a contributory factor in most suicides, it need not be present for a person to attempt or die by suicide. MYTH: Marked and sudden improvement in the mental state of an attempter following a suicidal crisis or depressive period signifies the suicide risk is over.FACT: The opposite may be true. In the three months following an attempt, a young person is at most risk of dying by suicide. The apparent lifting of the problems could mean the person has made a firm decision to die by suicide and feels better because of this decision. MYTH: Once a young person thinks about suicide, they will forever think about suicide.FACT: Most young people who are considering suicide will only be that way for a limited period of their lives. Given proper assistance and support, they will probably recover and continue to lead meaningful and happy lives unhindered by suicidal concerns. MYTH: Young persons thinking about suicide cannot help themselves.FACT: While contemplating suicide, young people may have a distorted perception of their actual life situation and what solutions are appropriate for them to take. However, with support and constructive assistance from caring and informed people around them, young people can gain full self-direction and self-management in their lives. MYTH: The only effective intervention for suicide comes from professional psychotherapists with extensive experience in the area.FACT: All people who interact with adolescents in crisis can help them by way of emotional support and encouragement. Psychotherapeutic interventions also rely heavily on family, and friends providing a network of support. MYTH: Most young people thinking about suicide never seek or ask for help with their problems.FACT: Evidence shows that they often tell their school peers of their thoughts and plans. Most adults with thoughts of suicide visit a medical doctor during the three months prior to killing themselves. Adolescents are more likely to 'ask' for help through non-verbal gestures than to express their situation verbally to others. MYTH: Young people thinking about suicide are always angry when someone intervenes and they will resent that person afterwards.FACT: While it is common for young people to be defensive and resist help at first, these behaviors are often barriers imposed to test how much people care and are prepared to help. For most adolescents considering suicide, it is a relief to have someone genuinely care about them and to be able to share the emotional burden of their plight with another person. When questioned some time later, the vast majority express gratitude for the intervention. MYTH: Break-ups in relationships happen so frequently, they do not cause suicide.FACT: Suicide can be precipitated by the loss of a relationship. MYTH: Young people thinking about suicide are insane or mentally ill.FACT: Although adolescents thinking about suicide are likely to be extremely unhappy and may be classified as having a mood disorder, such as depression, most are not legally insane. However, there are small numbers of individuals whose mental state meets psychiatric criteria for mental illness and who need psychiatric help. MYTH: Most suicides occur in winter months when the weather is poor.FACT: Seasonal variation data are essentially based on adult suicides, with limited adolescent data available. However, it seems adolescent suicidal behavior is most common during the spring and early summer months. MYTH: Suicide is much more common in young people from higher (or lower) socioeconomic status (SES) areas.FACT: The causes of suicidal behavior cut across SES boundaries. While the literature in the area is incomplete, there is no definitive link between SES and suicide. This does not preclude localized tendencies nor trends in a population during a certain period of time. MYTH: Some people are always suicidal.FACT: Nobody is suicidal at all times. The risk of suicide for any individual varies across time, as circumstances change. This is why it is important for regular assessments of the level of risk in individuals who are 'at risk'. MYTH: Every death is preventable.FACT: No matter how well intentioned, alert and diligent people's efforts may be, there is no way of preventing all suicides from occurring. MYTH: The main problem with preventive efforts is trying to implement strategies in an extremely grey area.FACT: The problem is that we lack a complete understanding of youth suicide and know more about what is not known than what is fact.  Going deeper: The reaction trio -- these do not just spring up spontaneously-- in the middle of a causal chain.  Recognize their impact -- but also see what causes them.    Despair -- failure of hope This is an effect and a cause -- what caused the despair   Desperation --  Rage -- rage is a reaction -- can lead to  Seeking to Punish God Seeking to punish others Other Reason -- these are the core reasons.  Attachment needs not met -- Episode 62 A felt sense of safety and protection, deep sense of security felt in the bones  Feeling seen and known heard and understood -- felt attunement  Felt comfort, reassurance  Feeling valued, delighted in, cherished by the attachment figure  Felt support for the best self   Integrity Needs not met All of the above.  Each one of us needs help to develop our sense of self, our identity  I exist  my existence is separate from others --  I exist in my own right, a separate personIs bounded, has boundaries  My identity is stable over time and across different situations -- there is a continuity  I can regulate myself -- I have some self-control.   Is integrated -- coherent interconnections inside between aspects of experience -- self-cohesion  Is active, with agency, can effectively function in the world  Is morally good -- ontologically or essentially good and thus has intrinsic value and worth, apart from others' opinions.   I can make sense of my experience and the world around me  Mission and Purpose in life  We also need to make good choices -- seek what is good, true and beautiful in life   Suicide Prevention Current secular "wisdom" and teaching on the topic  Protective factors are personal or environmental characteristics that help protect people from suicide  VeryWell mind article By Nancy Schimelpfening reviewing recent research findings February 19, 2021 Effective behavioral health care  Connectedness to individuals, family, community, and social institutions  Life skills (including problem solving skills and coping skills, ability to adapt to change)  Self-esteem and a sense of purpose or meaning in life  Cultural, religious, or personal beliefs that discourage suicide   Here's what I think: Let's start way back in the causal chain.   Attachment needs met  -- see episode 62 Unmet Attachment Needs and Unmet Integrity Need Integrity Needs Met Future focus We really looked at the secular literature in this episode  In the next episode -- looking at the juncture of the psychological and the spiritual What does the wisdom of the Catholic Church say about suicide.  How does that fit with what the secular experts are saying   And what's really exciting we will get into suicide from a parts perspective.   The role of exiled parts in suicide, the role of firefighter parts, the role of manager parts.  Seeing in more dimension. Most of the conceptualizations we discussed today assume a homogenous personality.  One personality.   We will also get into Others' Experience of Suicide -- parents, spouses, friends.  Intense reactions  Came from the blue Very understandable -- especially with the impulsive kind.   Pain, shame guilt  It was my fault  Really natural -- we have parts that want to hold on to the fantasy that we can make everything ok if we just always do the right thing Jesus could not prevent Judas' suicide without violating his free will.   Action Items If you are having suicidal thoughts or know of someone who is, contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 for support and assistance from a trained counselor. If you or a loved one are in immediate danger, call 911.  Catholic's Guide to Choosing a Therapist  Let people know about this episode -- many of you know other Catholics who have experienced loss of loved ones through suicide -- may benefit.  Take the chance, reach out.  Episodes 76, 77 and 78.  Interior Integration for Catholics  All the major platforms Soulandhearts.com/iic -- initials for Interior Integration for Catholics This episode can help equip you to have those conversations, to be able to reach out.   Waiting list soulsandhearts.com/rcc -- benefits -- email once per month, free gifts  Conversation hours T, R  Pray for me and for the other listeners   Patronness and patron Blurb for Transistor:  Through stories and examples, Dr. Peter reviews the best of secular approaches to understanding suicide.  He discusses suicide statistics, the different kinds of suicide, the risk factors for suicide, the warning signs for suicide and myths about suicide.  He covers the "reaction trio" and then the deep roots of suicide, the first causes.  

Boots Randolph [00:26] "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes" Love Songs for a Late Evening Columbia House 1P 6114 1974 That's right, the man who brought us "Yakety Sax" brings us the Kern and Harbach classic. Swans [03:45] "Love Will Tear Us Apart (Black Version)" Love Will Tear Us Apart Caroline Records CAROL 1454 1988 The Jarboe version of the Joy Division classic, engineered by the excellent Wharton Tiers. Cocteau Twins [07:39] "Love's Easy Tears" Love's Easy Tears 4AD BAD 610 1986 Title track from one of the many Cocteau Twins EPs. The Cure [11:16] "The Love Cats (Extended Version)" The Love Cats Fiction Records ficsx 19 1983 Evidently this was a throw-away song by Smith. Not too shabby if that's the case. Guitar Wolf [16:57] "Loverock" Loverock Narnack Records NCK 7020 2004 The jet-rockers blast off with this title track from their 2004 Narnack release on gold vinyl. New Order [20:11] "Face Up" Low-Life Qwest Records 1-25289 1985 My favorite track from New Order's third studio album. The concert video Pumped Full of Drugs that was made around this time contains an excellent version of this song. Terry Allen [25:12] "Truckload of Art" Lubbock (On Everything) Paradise of Bachelors PoB-27 2016 That'll show them high-falutin' New York artists. Terry is accompanied by such luminaries as Ponty Bone, Joe Ely, and Lloyd Maines. Originally released on Fate Records in 1979. Tim Cohen [30:34] "Bedfellows" Luck Man Sinderlyn LYN-024 2017 Another excellent solo outing from San Francisco's own Tim Cohen Cocteau Twins [34:25] "Feathers-Oar-Blades" Lullabies 4AD BAD 213 1982 Some very angular material from an EP that followed close on the heels of their debut album Garlands. André Kostelantez and his Orchestra [38:51] "Manuel de Falla: Spanish Dance (from La vida breve)" The Lure of Spain Columbia CL 943 1957 A little trip to Spain from the Russian-born American conductor. It makes for a pretty lively number when you accidentally record it at 45rpm! Johnny Mandel & Various [41:07] "Going Home" MAS*H (Original Soundtrack Recording) Columbia Masterworks OS 3520 1970 And that's pretty much how you handle Altman-esque overlapping dialogue for a soundtrack. Ella Fitzgerald with the Paul Smith Quartet [44:41] "Mack the Knife" Mack the Knife - Ella in Berlin Verve MG VS-64041 1960 (1967 repress) Now that is how you improvise. Malcolm McLaren [51:28] "Madam Butterfly" Madam Butterfly Island Records 0-96915 1984 A 12" single from Malcolm's attempt to fuse contemporary R&B with opera. Syd Barrett [57:53] "Gigolo Aunt" The Madcap Laughs/Barrett Capitol Records SABB-11314 1983 Excellent double record compilation of the two solo Barrett albums. Syd is joined by bandmates David Gilmour on bass, and Richard Wright on keys. Music behind the DJ: "My Sweet Lord" by Terry Baxter and his Orchestra

durée : 00:58:16 - « Suicide Is Painless » (Johnny Mandel / Michael Altman) (1970) - par : Laurent Valero - "Johnny Mandel, talentueux musicien, brillant compositeur et arrangeur de jazz signe la musique du film M.A.S.H et l'histoire de la chanson dont le titre "Suicide is Painless - Le suicide est indolore" est cocasse. Altman souhaitait que Mandel écrive la chanson la plus stupide..." Laurent Valero - réalisé par : Antoine Courtin

durée : 00:58:16 - « Suicide Is Painless » (Johnny Mandel / Michael Altman) (1970) - par : Laurent Valero - "Johnny Mandel, talentueux musicien, brillant compositeur et arrangeur de jazz signe la musique du film M.A.S.H et l'histoire de la chanson dont le titre "Suicide is Painless - Le suicide est indolore" est cocasse. Altman souhaitait que Mandel écrive la chanson la plus stupide..." Laurent Valero - réalisé par : Antoine Courtin

Book Vs Movie: “Being There” The 1970 Satirical Novel Vs the 1979 Classic Film The film Being There and its star Peter Sellers was a big deal in 1980 when the film was released. Based on a novella by Jerzy Kosinski (who won an Academy Award and Golden Globe for the screenplay) the story of “Chance”, a simple gardener who grew up on an estate and never experienced the outside world in an engaging way except for television for his whole life.  When his benefactor and/or father dies, he must leave his townhouse and try to forge a life for himself with no identity and no education. Luckily, he is soon being taken care of by elderly businessman Ben Rand and his younger wife Eve who mistakenly almost completely runs him over.  While she calls him “Chauncey Gardner,” we (the audience) know that his name is Chance and he has no idea what is happening in real life. When the President of the U.S. pays a visit to Rand, he is charmed by Chauncey’s lack of guile and a simplistic worldview.  Soon enough, Chauncey Gardner is the hit of Washington DC and the media that seeks his opinion on everything related to inflation and the economy.  The film, directed by Hal Ashby, is a modern classic taking on the shallowness of the media when it comes to uncovering “the truth” and pop culture.  So between the book and the film--which did we prefer? Have a listen and find out!  In this ep the Margos discuss: Author Jerzy Kosinski    The road from the novel to the Hal Ashby-directed film The cast: Peter Sellers (Chance,) Shirley McLaine (Eve Rand,) Melvyn Douglas (Benjamin Rand,) Jack Warden (President Bobby,) Richard Dysart (Dr. Allenby,) Richard Baseheart (Vladamir Skrapinov,) Ruth Attaway (Louise,) David Clennon (Thomas Franklin,) and Fran Brill (Sally Hayes.)  Clips used: Chance meets the President Being There  trailer  Chance meets Thomas Franklin & Sally Hayes. Final scene deciding on whether or not to run him for President Basketball Jones by Cheech & Chong   Being There  theme music by Johnny Mandel    Book Vs Movie is part of the Frolic Podcast Network. Find more podcasts you will love Frolic.Media/podcasts Join our Patreon page to help support the show! https://www.patreon.com/bookversusmovie  Book Vs. Movie podcast https://www.facebook.com/bookversusmovie/ Twitter @bookversusmovie www.bookversusmovie.com Email us at bookversusmoviepodcast@gmail.com Brought to you by Audible.com You can sign up for a FREE 30-day trial here http://www.audible.com/?source_code=PDTGBPD060314004R Margo D. @BrooklynFitChik www.brooklynfitchick.com brooklynfitchick@gmail.com Margo P. @ShesNachoMama https://coloniabook.weebly.com/  Our logo was designed by Madeleine Gainey/Studio 39 Marketing Follow on Instagram @Studio39Marketing & @musicalmadeleine 

As a lifelong Frank Sinatra fan, today I'm excited to be speaking with Charles Granata. Chuck is the producer and co-host of Nancy Sinatra's weekly radio show on SiriusXM, “Nancy for Frank,” which recently concluded after 14 years and over 500 episodes. “The Best of Nancy for Frank” continues to air every week. He has worked on several Frank Sinatra box sets, including “A Voice on Air: 1935–1955” and “Sinatra in Hollywood: 1940–1964.” Most recently he oversaw the restoration and reissue of the 1950 LP “Sing and Dance with Frank Sinatra” (Impex Records, 2020). Chuck is the author of two acclaimed books, “Sessions with Sinatra: Frank Sinatra and the Art of Recording” and “Wouldn't It Be Nice: Brian Wilson and the Making of the Beach Boys' Pet Sounds.” And he assisted music legends Phil Ramone and Johnny Mandel in writing their memoirs. I loved hearing how Chuck's childhood passion eventually became a fulfilling career, thanks to many serendipitous connections along the way. Near the end of our conversation, he also shares his personal thoughts on spirituality, which I found very moving. Read “Sessions with Sinatra”: amazon.com/dp/B005HF4DGK Follow Chuck on Facebook: facebook.com/chuckgranata Get his latest Sinatra legacy release: impexrecords.com/sing-and-dance-with-frank-sinatra At the end of this episode, instead of the usual closing music, I'm including a track from my own Sinatra-inspired album, “Someone to Watch Over Me,” which is available on most music platforms.

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The Shadow of your Smile (La sombra de tu sonrisa) fue compuesta por Johnny Mandel con letra de Paul F. Webster, hecha famosa en la película de 1965 "The sandpiper". Tony Bennett (Antonio di Benedetto) la popularizó y luego entra en el mundo del jazz. Escuchemos versiones de jazzistas clásicos y modernos.   Fe de erratas: en JLSS 12, cuando dijimos Tito Puente y Phil Woods, en el fragmento toca el saxo tenor Mario Rivera.

Mais um episódio de Análises Harmônicas, desta vez destrinchando Tha Shadow of Your Smile, do grande Johnny Mandel e imortalizada por Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Ella Fitzgerald, e até Stevie Wonder e Wilson Simonal, e O Bêbado e a Equilibrista, do grande João Bosco e imortalizada por Elis Regina. www.semibreves.com.br e-mail: semibrevespodcast@gmail.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/semibrevespod Instagram: @semibrevespod Twitter: @semibrevespod Apoie o Semibreves: apoia.se/semibreves picpay.me/semibreves Dicas culturais: Daniel: Disco: Hyldon – Soulsambarock Pedro: Disco/DVD: João Bosco – Obrigado Gente Apresentação: Pedro Janczur e Daniel Lima Produção: Pedro Janczur e Daniel Lima Edição: Pedro Janczur Consultoria Técnica: Marco Bonito Abertura: The Trio – A Seita Demais trilhas – Luka Schwab

"Suicide Is Painless" is a song written by Johnny Mandel (music) and Michael Altman (lyrics). It was the theme song for both the movie and TV series M*A*S*H. YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i70_u7T8hq8 "The song was written specifically for Ken Prymus, the actor playing Private Seidman, who sang it during the faux-suicide of Walter "Painless Pole" Waldowski (John Schuck) in the film's "Last Supper" scene. Director Robert Altman had two stipulations about the song for Mandel: it had to be called "Suicide Is Painless" and it had to be the "stupidest song ever written". Altman attempted to write the lyrics himself, but upon finding it too difficult for his 45-year-old brain to write "stupid enough," he gave the task to his 14-year-old-son Michael, who wrote the lyrics in five minutes." Suicide Is Painless Through early morning fog I see Visions of the things to be The pains that are withheld for me I realize and I can see That suicide is painless It brings on many changes And I can take or leave it if I please I try to find a way to make All our little joys relate Without that ever-present hate But now I know that it's too late, and That suicide is painless It brings on many changes And I can take or leave it if I please The game of life is hard to play I'm gonna lose it anyway The losing card I'll someday lay So this is all I have to say That suicide is painless It brings on many changes And I can take or leave it if I please The only way to win is cheat And lay it down before I'm beat And to another give my seat For that's the only painless feat That suicide is painless It brings on many changes And I can take or leave it if I please The sword of time will pierce our skins It doesn't hurt when it begins But as it works its way on in The pain grows stronger watch it grin, but That suicide is painless It brings on many changes And I can take or leave it if I please A brave man once requested me To answer questions that are key Is it to be or not to be And I replied 'Oh, why ask me?' That suicide is painless It brings on many changes And I can take or leave it if I please 'Cause suicide is painless It brings on many changes And I can take or leave it if I please And you can do the same thing if you please --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/chrisabraham/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/chrisabraham/support

Happy International Podcast Day! In episode four of FILMIC host Ley Bricknell salutes the music of Johnny Mandel and of course Ennio Morricone. We also take a look at how important music was to director Alan Parker and the many styles he used throughout his films. Ley also plays new releases by Taro Iwashiro, Angelo Milli and Matthijs Keirboom together with current video game releases, plus a luscious cover of a 007 song. Enjoy! —— Cinematic Sound Radio is fully licensed to play music by SOCAN. Check out our NEW Cinematic Sound Radio TeePublic Store! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/cinematic-sound-radio Cinematic Sound Radio Web: http://www.cinematicsound.net Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/cinsoundradio Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/cinematicsound Cinematic Sound Radio Fanfare and Theme by David Coscina https://soundcloud.com/user-970634922 Bumper voice artist: Tim Burden http://www.timburden.com

Johnny Mandel passed away on June 29th 2020. He was 94 years old. As a composer he wrote some endearing songs that are still being played today. He was also a very fine arranger. Staring in 1949, Johnny arranged for several big bands as well as played trombone in them. We are going to take a look at his life and listen to some of his arrangements and compositions on the show today. I hope you enjoy this look at the music of the late Johnny Mandel. Please visit this podcast at http://bigbandbashfm.blogspot.com

durée : 01:26:59 - Hommage à Johnny Mandel, compositeur de musique de film, chef d'orchestre et très grand arrangeur - par : Thierry Jousse - Hommage à Johnny Mandel, qui nous a quitté au début du mois de juillet. Auteur du thème de MASH (Suicide is Painless) et du standard The Shadow of your Smile (initialement composé pour le film de Vincente Minnelli, Le Chevalier des Sables). - réalisé par : Vivian Lecuivre

The justly celebrated composer and arranger Johnny Mandel died June 29 at the age of 94 in Oaji CA. He received multiple Grammy awards and Oscars for his songs and music for films and was a member of the Songwriter's Hall of Fame. Mandel made one appearance at Centrum's Jazz Port Townsend in 2012, when he was the featured composer-arranger and conducted the Centrum All-Star Big Band in a concert of his music. This brought his career full-circle, he began his career as a big band arranger in the 40s and 50s. In this encore presentation, four of Johnny Mandel's award-winning songs from this concert will be highlighted this week on Jazz Northwest. Included will be "Close Enough for Love," "Emily," "Theme from MASH" and "The Shadow Of Your Smile." Also featured on this week's show is a new release by Vancouver tenor saxophonist Jerry Cook, as well as music by Porlanders Warren Rand and Randy Porter, and selections by Francesco Crosara, Xavier Lecouturier and Thomas Marriott. Jazz Northwest

Composer and arranger Johnny Mandel died last Monday at the age of 94. In the sixty years prior, he gave us standards such as “Emily” and “The Shadow of Your Smile,” and ushered in an era of jazz-inflected movies with his 1958 score for the film “I Want to Live.” WNYC’s Sara Fishko spoke to him about that period in this archival Fishko Files, produced in 2008. Fishko Files with Sara Fishko Assistant Producer: Olivia BrileyMix Engineer: Wayne ShulmisterEditor: Karen Frillmann

Streamin' Hamilton.  Yeah, baby.  Fantastic Frick Video Tours/Lectures.  Maybe economists can help.  With Covid?  Happy BB Day.  Listening to Jessie Ware and her Mom (Table Manners).  Pianos are back.  Remembering Hugh Downs, Johnny Mandel, Carl Reiner, and the Westbury Drive-in.   Credits: Talent:  Tamsen Granger and Dan Abuhoff Engineer:  Ellie Suttmeier Art:  Zeke Abuhoff

Agradece a este podcast tantas horas de entretenimiento y disfruta de episodios exclusivos como éste. ¡Apóyale en iVoox! Especial dedicado al fallecido compositor y arreglista Johnny Mandel. Repasamos algunas de su más celebres creaciones así como sus trabajos junto a Lee Ritenour, Natalie Cole, Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones, James Ingram, Chet Baker, Steely Dan y David Sanborn.Escucha este episodio completo y accede a todo el contenido exclusivo de Cloud Jazz Smooth Jazz. Descubre antes que nadie los nuevos episodios, y participa en la comunidad exclusiva de oyentes en https://go.ivoox.com/sq/27170

Especial dedicado al fallecido compositor y arreglista Johnny Mandel. Repasamos algunas de su más celebres creaciones así como sus trabajos junto a Lee Ritenour, Natalie Cole, Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones, James Ingram, Chet Baker, Steely Dan y David Sanborn.

Host Matthew Socey reviews the drama The Truth and pays tribute to Carl Reiner and Johnny Mandel. Then grab a pencil...

Host Matthew Socey reviews the drama The Truth and pays tribute to Carl Reiner and Johnny Mandel. Then grab a pencil...

Iconic 20the Century Songwriter talks about getting his union card, the art of strong song writing, and his relationship with Stan Getz. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jake-feinberg/support

IT'S FINALLY HAPPENED (and I finally watched it)!   (1:28) What I’ve Been Watching Fantasia Insecure 404 Run 104 The Flash 618 Legends of Tomorrow 511 Mrs America 106 Star Trek: Deep Space Nine 201-203 Adventures of Superman 119-120 (14:43) News Carl Reiner dies at 98 Danny Hicks dies at 68 Johnny Mandel dies at 94 Coronavirus news Black Lives Matter news (35:17) Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 7 Review Post Show- Westworld Season 3 Review

It’s WEDNESDAY morning---Please join the BIG W, with a Bloody Mary in hand, for MORNINGS AT THE BUDDIES LOUNGE. A perfect 30 minutes blend of great Space-Age Pop music in LIVING STEREO everyday single day this week! Playlist for 7/1/20: Just One of Those Things - Anita O'Day Dark Eyes - Ray Anthony Uptight (Everything's Alright) - Nancy Wilson The Dick Van Dyke Show - Frank Chacksfield The Astronaught - Mel Brooks & Carl Reiner The Art Of Love - Cy Coleman Ring-A-Ding-Ding - Frank Sinatra & Johnny Mandel Emily - Johnny Mandel Suicide Is Painless - Johnny Mandel Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo - Gogi Grant & Johnny Mandel

Episode nine is a compilation of beautiful piano feature ballads including The Nearness of You by Hoagy Carmichael, My Romance by George Gershwin, A Time for Love by Johnny Mandel, and In a Sentimental Mood by Duke Ellington.

Do you ever feel like some songs have too many words? Well, good news: instrumental music eliminates that very problem! In this episode, Drew and Glen each list off five sitcom theme songs that they think are good despite their glaring lack of lyrics. Spoiler: many of them actually do have lyrics, it turns out. But still! If you like this episode, you may also like Singing Mountain, Drew’s other podcast, which works a lot like this but with video game music. There’s even an episode with Glen! Watch Fatal Farm’s alternate intros for Doogie Howser, M.D. and Dynasty. Hamburger Penis as Alexis! Yes, Dick Van Dyke really was rescued by porpoises. Here’s the Tiny Toons parody of The Dick Van Dyke Show opening. Because it never hurts to point it out, the number for the National Suicide Prevention Hotline is 1 (800) 723-8255. There's also an online chat option. Here is the “Suicide Is Painless” scene from the movie version of M*A*S*H. And here is the interview with Johnny Mandel about the creation of the song. Is it possible that M83’s “Midnight City” is in any way a reference to ALF? No? Okay. Secret lyrics! Specifically to The Munsters, I Dream of Jeannie and The Andy Griffith Show. The possible (probable) inspiration for the Futurama theme is the 1967 song “Psyché Rock” by Pierre Henry. There is also a Fatboy Slim remix of that “Psyché Rock” that sounds even closer to the Futurama theme, but it was released in 2000, after the debut of Futurama. And here is the interview with composer Christopher Tyng where he doesn’t cite “Psyché Rock” as a direct inspiration. Buy Glen’s movie, Being Frank. Support us on Patreon! Follow: GEE on Twitter • Drew on Twitter • Glen on Twitter Listen: iTunes • Spotify • Stitcher • Google Play • Google Podcasts • Himalaya • TuneIn • SoundCloud And yes, we do have an official website! And we even have episode transcripts courtesy of Sarah Neal. Our logo was designed by Rob Wilson, but our Patreon Iogo was designed by Jeff Hinchee. This is a TableCakes podcast. This episode’s outro track is “Won’t You Help Me” by Yanguru, which Drew picked because it sounds like the closing credits of ever 80s movie ever.

Dos dúos: el de guitarra y contrabajo de los belgas Luz da Lua ('Chovendo na roseira', 'Frevo', 'Le dormeur du val') y el de voz y guitarra de 7 cuerdas de los italianos Sambuca ('Canto de Oxalufá', 'Ponteio', 'Veracruz'). El saxofonista y flautista estadounidense Ted Nash, en un club de Nueva York en quinteto, tocando 'Emily', de Johnny Mandel', y 'Baby elephant walk' de Henry Mancini. Y la cantante y compositora tejana, vecina de París, Hailey Tuck con 'A bit of you' y 'Talkin´like you' de su reciente EP 'Coquette'. Para la despedida, música de Egberto Gismonti, 'A fala da paixão', en la guitarra del también brasileño Daniel Murray. Escuchar audio

Pre-order the YBOF book or get bonus content. Thank you to all of those who are literally risking their lives while people claim the virus isn't a real threat and demand to be allowed to get haircuts and go to the movies. Susie King Taylor Lucky 13 Build Face Shields Music by Kevin MacLeod and Johnny Mandel. Read the full script. Reach out and touch Moxie on FB, Twit, the 'Gram or email.

M*A*S*H, "Suicide is Painless", skriven av Johnny Mandel och den då 14-årige Mike Altman.Det är Coronatider och Lerneby har både suttit i karantän och varit på tältsjukhus. Därav historien om en låt som var signaturmelodi till en tv-serie om ett tältsjukhus mitt i kriget mellan Syd-Korea och Nord-Korea. Två länder där det ena verkligen drabbats av Covid-19 och det andra enligt egen uppgift "inte-alls-överhuvudtaget".  Demarkationslinjen i detta avsnitt går någonstans vid gränsen till Lernebys villa i Utby utanför Göteborg. Och det är dit Dahlberg nu på darrande ben har ryckt fram.M*A*S*H- theme song (1969)Suicide is Painless - Manic Street Preachers  Dahlberg & Lerneby produceras Holger Hund AB.

This episode of Movie Magic is dedicated to all the caregivers, the unsung heroes that is our nurses, doctors and all who work in hospitals and clinics.  Credits:  1. Movie Magic Opening Theme Produced, Composed & Performed by Corey Gomez. 2. Theme from MASH, Suicide Is Painless (Instrumental version). Performed by The Shadows and written by Johnny Mandel. 3. Main Title of Patch Adams. Written by Marc Shaiman. Patch Adams OST

I am so delighted to be able to talk to the lovely Yuriko Byers, the wife of the late great arranger, composer, trombonist and musician Billy Byers. In a career that spanned over a 100 movies, dozens of Broadway shows and arrangements for hundreds of TV shows, Byers is regarded as one of the greatest arrangers in music history. He's worked with the biggest names in music such as Quincy Jones, Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Sarah Vaughan, Diana Ross, Count Basie, and really, too many to count. Perhaps even more impressive, is the legacy he's left outside of the entertainment industry, with a stellar reputation as a good person, a wonderful loving family and many friends. ----- 1:14 How much work did Billy Byers approximately ghostwrite? 2:50 Did Billy have to give up the piano in his youth because of early onset arthritis? 3:25 Writing in pen because it was easier on his arthritis 3:55 The Byers family 4:08 When did you meet Billy? 4:28 Are you a musician yourself? Is that how you met Billy? 5:20 Was Billy a down to earth type of person? 5:50 Who were Billy's musical heroes and inspirations growing up? 6:46 Did he have a mentor or was he self taught? 7:45 Was it true that Billy's father didn't want him to do music? 8:12 Was the trombone his main instrument? 8:23 What was his history like before you were married? 9:57 Did you meet Billy in Vegas? 11:18 What were you studying in college? 11:36 Did you get married after that? 11:52 How many years were you married to Billy? 12:10 34 years of marriage 12:27 What was your family plan once you got married? 13:24 Why was it rough in New York at the time? 14:19 Was that the 70s or lates 60s? 15:26 Did he practice at home a lot? 15:44 Did he ever express any regret that he had arthritis? 16:32 Did he have perfect pitch? 16:47 In what way was perfect pitch not a blessing for him? 17:08 Writing music on a plane with no instruments 17:19 Was he a fast writer or did he take his time with it? 18:00 Did he have a schedule for writing, in the morning or night? 18:54 Was he a mentor to younger musicians? 19:19 On teaching Paul Newman to play the trombone for Paris Blues 20:07 Talking about Billy's contributions to the movie The Sting 21:10 Johnny Mandel's friendship with Billy 22:57 Who were Billy's best friends in music? 25:20 Was he friends with Nelson Riddle? 25:36 On always being busy but still having time for family 26:20 Did he experience racism for being a white musician in jazz? 28:59 Dizzy Gillespie not caring about race 29:48 On recording two albums with Frank Zappa 30:43 Talking about Billy's work in Broadway 33:32 Being a music director for big television specials 34:36 Going from Broadway to a Classical Orchestra 35:44 Did he go to all these award nomination ceremonies? 37:21 Talking about Joseph Curiale 38:28 Did Joseph Curiale meet Billy? 38:48 Talking about Sammy Nestico's relationship with Billy 40:19 What did Count Basie think of Billy? 41:05 Working with Frank Sinatra? 42:07 What did Quincy Jones think of Billy? 42:29 On Quincy and Billy's close friendship 42:45 Did Billy have an album or show that he did that he really found special 43:38 What were Billy's favorite things to do in music? 45:51 How did he approach music with his kids? 47:42 On their successful family unit 48:38 What would be some good albums to check out to hear Billy at his best? 50:31 Did he have music that he personally enjoyed listening to? 52:12 Talking about Robert Farnon 52:33 Talking about Yuriko's Yoga teaching career 55:04 More on the great example of the Byers family 57:17 Wrapping Up

Get more at podsematary.com! Read our afterthoughts for this episode at https://twitter.com/PodSematary/status/1203531590904795136 CW: Rape, Suicide, Domestic Abuse, Homophobia, Distressing sequences involving animals It’s Stephen King Sequels Week on Pod Sematary! Chris & Kelsey go back to the well to revive Stephen King adaptions in the form of sequels! The Classic Film: Pet Sematary II (1992) "A teenage boy and his father move to his recently-deceased mother's hometown, where they encounter the ancient Native American cemetery with the power to raise the dead” (IMDb.com). This bonkers sequel is fairly lovable in its weirdness, even if the ending goes a little off the rails. The Modern Film: It Chapter Two (2019) "Twenty-seven years after their first encounter with the terrifying Pennywise, the Losers Club have grown up and moved away, until a devastating phone call brings them back” (IMDb.com). Having enjoyed Chapter One in episode 15 of the podcast (or “liked okay” in Kelsey’s case), we were surprised to find that Chapter Two was massively hobbled in what appears to be an attempt to end the story and include every popular ingredient from the first chapter at the same time. Simply put: it does not work. Plus! Our spoiler-free thoughts on King and Hill's In the Tall Grass! Audio Sources: "Christine" produced by Columbia Pictures, et al. "Clueless" produced by Paramount Pictures "Fading Away" performed by Jan King “It Chapter Two” produced by New Line Cinema, et al. "Pet Sematary" written by Dee Dee Ramone & Daniel Rey and performed by The Ramones “Pet Sematary II” produced by Paramount Pictures & Columbus Circle Films “Poison Heart” written by Dee Dee Ramone & Daniel Rey and performed by The Ramones "Reverence" written by William Reid & Jim Reid and performed by The Jesus and Mary Chain "Theme from M*A*S*H (Suicide Is Painless)" written by Johnny Mandel (music) & Mike Altman (lyrics) and performed by The Mash "Training / Credits" (from "Punch-Out!!" [NES]) composed and arranged by Yukio Kaneoka, Akito Nakatsuka, and Kenji Yamamoto "Weird Satanist Guy" via BowserVids @ www.youtube.com/watch?v=YErFwJX0HKE

Guest Paul Francis Sullivan returns to bring it with trivia about the actors from MASH—and his analysis of why we feel bad for Radar in this scene prompts a deep dive into how this story was adapted for the tv show. But, really, how could we not feel sorry for Radar as EVAC Number 88 literally just spits water all over him? Hammond and Blake double the bets, Johnny Mandel’s “The Football Game” kicks in, and Jones dominates on the field (and earns a new nickname) as the second half begins.

“Suicide Is Painless” interlude by Johnny Mandel & Michael Altman. Fun fact: Michael Altman wrote the lyrics to this song when he was only 14 years old for his father’s 1970 film “MASH.” He earned about $1 million for the song, while Robert Altman only made about $70,000 for directing the comedy classic.“Devil’s Son” interlude by Big L & Showbiz“Mambo Silvado” outro by Randy Carlos & His OrchestraAll samples created & owned by their original license holders.The non-religious & nonpartisan "Kato Frank" podcast is David Kato talking frankly about diet, exercise, positive experiences, lessons learned, relationships, jobs, entertainment, government, mental health, & headline news. His audio diaries, recordings, & discussions take you on a psychedelic personal journey of introspection and empowerment to help achieve the best version of ourselves we know we can be.Episode title names are the date the audio was recorded. Photos are from the day of recording or closest proximate date.Special thanks to Audacity, Pazera Audio Extractor, & Florian Heidenreich’s MP3tag.Follow us on social media to see related topics that were discussed on the show. Thanks for spending time with us.

“Momma Miss America” intro by Laws & J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League“Suicide Is Painless” interlude by Johnny Mandel & Michael AltmanAll samples created & owned by their original license holders.The non-religious & nonpartisan "Kato Frank" podcast is David Kato talking frankly about diet, exercise, positive experiences, lessons learned, relationships, jobs, entertainment, government, mental health, & headline news. His audio diaries, recordings, & discussions take you on a psychedelic personal journey of introspection and empowerment to help achieve the best version of ourselves we know we can be.Episode title names are the date the audio was recorded. Photos are from the day of recording or closest proximate date.Special thanks to Audacity, Pazera Audio Extractor, & Florian Heidenreich’s MP3tag.Follow us on social media to see related topics that were discussed on the show. Thanks for spending time with us.

Continuamos con nuestras sintonías de tv favoritas desde los inicios hasta 1990, con temas que han quedado en la memoria e incluso para la historia de la música popular Únete a nosotros en Telegram: t.me/marcianosenuntren Modera: Jose Ceballos Participan: Carlos Arbelo y Álvaro Blanco Edición y Música: Jose Ceballos Temas de: John Dankworth, Johnny Mandel, Doug Goodwind, Henri Mancini, María Rosario Ovelar, Javier Losada e Hilario Camacho, Danny Elfman, Hoyt Curtin, Joseph Barbera y William Hanna, B52´s, Guido & Maurizio D´Angelis, Takeo Watanabe, Neal Hefty, Joe Raposo, Vic Mizzy, Dennis Wilson, Howard Geenfield & Jack Keller, Jesse Frederick, George Tipton, Gary Portnoy, Jonathan Wolff, Bill Conti, Jim Parker, Wilfred Josephs, David Schwartz y Carmelo Bernaola

Johnny Mandel is a composer, arranger, record producer, bandleader and musician. His whole life has been comprised of musical achievement. As a trumpeter and trombonist he played in the bands of Artie Shaw, Jimmy Dorsey, Count Basie, and Woody Herman. He transitioned into arranging. As an arranger, Mandel worked with Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Chet Baker, Peggy Lee and Andy Williams…the greatest singers of the day. However, the work of Johnny Mandel could not be confined to just making albums. Mandel composed scores for movies and then with some of the greatest lyricists including Johnny Mercer and Alan and Marilyn Bergman. Johnny Mandel has composed songs increasingly referred to as “standards”—“Emily,” “The Shadow of Your Smile,” “Close Enough for Love” and “Where Do You Start?” as well as the unforgettable melody of the M * A * S * H * television show. In the humble opinion of this host, Johnny Mandel is one of the greatest composers in American music and an artistic treasure. It was a great honor to interview a man who has contributed greatly. Enjoy listening here on The Paul Leslie Hour. Support The Paul Leslie Hour by donating to their Tip Jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-paul-leslie-hour

Swedish pianist Jan Lundgren remembers the effect of hearing Oscar Peterson’s “Night Train” for the first time and speaks about “Mare Nostrum III”, his forthcoming release with Paolo Fresu and Richard Galliano; the influence Arne Domnérus played in his career; recording Johnny Mandel tunes with American sax-player Harry Allen; and his own tribute album to Matt Dennis, a crooner/pianist whose music was covered by Frank Sinatra and Chet Baker…

Alan & Marilyn Bergman, two of the most important song lyricists in the entire world are here on The Paul Leslie Hour to talk about their storied life in music. Alan & Marilyn Bergman wrote songs with some of the greatest composers in music: Michel Legrand, Johnny Mandel, David Shire, Sérgio Mendes, Dave Grusin, John Williams, Marvin Hamlisch and others. Their songs have been sung by the likes of Frank Sinatra, Barbra Streisand, Gladys Knight, Johnny Mathis, Vic Damone, Tony Bennett, Michael Jackson, Fred Astaire and hundreds of others. Don't touch that dial, the married Bergman songwriting team are up next right only on The Paul Leslie Hour. The words of Alan and Marilyn Bergman are here to stay! Support The Paul Leslie Hour by donating to their Tip Jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/the-paul-leslie-hour

The great songwriter Johnny Mandel wrote in the theme song for MASH, that “Suicide is Painless.” It’s not. The emotional pain and depression that often leads to it is anything but. Moreover the pain for the survivors is unfathomable. Yet we have witnessing an epidemic of suicide among some of best and brightest young people today. Suicide is now the second leading cause of death among college students. And back in 2014 and 2015, even such an esteemed institution as MIT experienced a suicide cluster, resulting in the death of 6 students and 1 faculty member. Because of its deeply personal nature, the search for symptoms and causes needs to be more personal than clinical. After the MIT suicides an MIT computer science professor, Daniel Jackson, set out to do something to begin to understand what had happened and to help others. What he did, reached not into the pharmacy, but into the soul of his students. These end result is Portraits of Resilience. My conversation with Professor Daniel Jackson:

60 years ago in 1958, Johnny Mandel's score for the film "I Want to Live" used jazz to play under (and sometimes over) the grim story of an execution. Mandel and others tell us more about jazz scores in movies and TV, in this archival episode of Fishko Files. (Produced in 2008) Fishko Files with Sara Fishko Assistant Producer: Olivia BrileyMix Engineer: Wayne ShulmisterEditor: Karen Frillmann

Saksofonist Jure Pukl, kontrabasist Robert Jukič in bobnar Žan Tetičkovič. Jure Pukl, Velenjčan, je vodja Klinike in seveda izvrsten saksofonist, ki živi v New Yorku. Je dobitnik nagrade Prešernovega sklada in vsekakor eden najuspešnejših in najprodornejših slovenskih jazzovskih ustvarjalcev. Prav tako velenjski jazzovski krog zastopa kontrabasist Robert Jukič, ki pa ni samo jazzist, temveč vsestranski glasbeni ustvarjalec, pa tudi izredno kreativen avtor – tisti, ki s svojo glasbo nenehno trka na našo podzavest. Tretji člen tega zanimivega tria pa je bobnar Žan Tetičkovič. Prejemnik nagrade Johnny Mandel (fundacije Ameriškega združenja glasbenih ustvarjalcev in izdajateljev) in avtor projekta The Port of Life (Pristanišče življenj), s čimer je pokazal, da se brez zadržkov loti tudi skladanja za večje zasedbe.

Johnny Mandel/Mike Altman – Suicide is painless

Chad and Steve opine in a Friday Happy Hour edition. Transcript below: Okay here we go summary of headphones turnabout dialogue I hello my Dan Mullen is back with the gators and other coaching changes is exactly what you talk about first off but before that even we want to tell you that this podcast is brought to you by fan Teddy legal for all your business legal needs in etc. etc. so Steve with Diane okay you want to talk about we just talk about how to set it demoing new Florida higher this was for one second and we can do this but let's possibly try to put away our Florida and Tennessee biases here and see if you talk about this from an objective viewpoint was a delicious rush as we can't I alright so demoing Odyssey to save higher the gators I just keep your Internet word over and over say safe is better than Safeco US so too I mean I'll see what we wanted to Kelly that was this the sexy horror that was the offense of juggernaut that we wanted to this this fan base has been starved for offense for the past nine years since Tim Teagle left so we really for some offense and demo my provide that he presided over the 10 people years you know up until other my letters and Chris leak your hand or your little quarterback with Bill this guy I mean Alex Smith was somewhat Chris Lee go talk about 10 people obviously all trash quarterback that he may look a little service it is true for slick trash Buddha when national title and people good throw ball to the OT book and what are you getting a TiVo can do more than one rising is a quality player but I say one thing is that I can coach flat out if you coach those guys might ever get top recruits was you do love you Mike Franks turned Frank into a first round I don't know that for sure hundred but he's got the tools gasket abounds anyway I will probably is like a transfer session get macro and also if you know this heat he's going out we Artie made a run at Justin Fields who will enter a number one overall. Through the negative note here to commit the Georgia Canada Georgia in spite of them having from inside having Easton likes to five stars and I am 1/3 five-star there so that by Georgia can over recruit the best the thing over Surprise he he he committed there but his tiny thing yet so demos making another run at the number 1 Overall Ct. record review if you don't want to happen is Matt corral is a great retreat as well that's our our uniformity for five straight a four-star QB recruit now I want him to leave because were going after Justin Fields and he's a great he's a great recruit good huge arm so hope you stay so I damn all in good hire going to hire my place I appreciate you saying that but it's I just the I do say that the the upside of it is I would always be afraid which of Kelly that he would to both the NFL he got her to three good years boldly FL I do believe that Dan Mullen will stay for the long haul maybe maybe there for 10 years some like thou make easy for each of Kelly will never go back to fell over again to see you know that so I can stimulate today 100% he will okay is too fast for him he doesn't have enough control and his systems don't work there and assistance would work to Florida I guess I'm surprised you to go to Florida be the Nike guy being filled nights boy I thought he would take UCLA job because that's under Armour program he's got you so much loyal to Nike by he did it but he's an SEC kinda guy he can't really know he likes to fly under the radar doesn't do a lot of stuff the kind just wants to call plays and relax yes you see football's life me and yet is want to live that much want to be the West Coast if he don't do yoga and whatever else it should definitely do has pictured everyone picture to Kelly I know that answer right now I'm good doing downward dog to Bob Niekro he got a lot of contacts in the West Coast easy as long as the beater yet and he also is written in the gator contract I'm sure the Tennessee contract as well as boost like certain meta-booster meetings yet to go to look at him all kinds now he and and and and in more on that Tim Bowen he knows the SEC can recruit the SEC is recruited in many different regions of the SEC and most important to me at least is that Dan Ballman knows exactly how to winning the SEC in the top three coach top three or four open the top three or four coaches in Assisi when saying when he was at Mr. B state yeah you want the best once he was okay here is will trivia for the inaugural college playoff rankings in a city state was number 130 go to very first one so get there not one for a while I forgot about that until I like it so they hired him like an x-ray message that was number one for like six weeks you may have Jack yeah Hudak Prescott know yet another quarterback yet so she knows how to exactly guy who no one thought could do anything and also needs the quintuple rice and the felt plane for down frail but yes let's go me good for them it's it it's good when people can get coaches because Tennessee can't well yeah well maybe I would tell each let's talk about Tennessee now I want them to get Leach I would love lately to talaria. They were getting rude and I like to think my life's work on that and I concluded and fall through though it isn't closed yet but you know it's funny because I think they could get Leach the biggest savage out of this is Gandhi go to got almost $1 million raise just today using that the Tennessee job against Oklahoma State yet he's nice and is not stupid cohosting today working to negotiate with them they gave us the basics are $35,000 a day out I take it but I would've loved him Gandhi I think both of my good Gun your leisure being out I love going needed at just the soundbite sounds like Spurrier like with their sound I don't know like Gandhi with the mullet you know you differently than the SEC can tell you later, and I've got him to finish but he said his honey he's even alone there so you know you wasn't gonna leave Yahoo! lines MEI I thought it was close but hit a $3 million take it it's surprising something probably brought them back home I know he's alumni all that he's got family there but Tennessee is just fumbling it but today they picked up the ball yeah they did in it it him in a big way and they got Phil Fulmer yeah now be the a deed to help with the coaching search and it's funny because there's a conspiracy behind this old rule is there conspiracy are you sure tell you I'm a tell you what it is it is funny because the reason why there is a K conspiracy here and people aren't seeing it it's for your gear here for though that's in your form just here to make sure people know okay because Tennessee knew all along they were going to get booted hello baby hello screen shoe smokescreen they held out on Sean because he could give it to them but they didn't think it is hold fans relax okay like Aaron Rodgers does but they knew we want whose Argyle along full form guy right not a CAD scuttlebutt coach what are not to be able to find anybody the recruiting peers are upon us and they're going to close fast while in there and have Phil forward only do the recruiting and end of coaching this team is really the ADA and the Xhosa first the first A.D./coach I contract is that he's not Barry Alvarez and his close but you have to the have to find somebody else to fill in Peyton Manning's get a phone as the ED while in full force the coaches football team hook up on the coach will crash two years that's what I like it. I like it my sources nor the sources are Michael Flynn gave me the source you leave for the crown of the gross out on a good turnout is… She's pled guilty that I say this first plea deal was he had it he had a guy reveal the source all the Russian sources came out in this was in the mix I picked up oh brother with it why I believe this one because alas when you sit with the groomers you said Gruden that he said the designing and the criminally sinews is out there so I did that I was right to not believe those sources nurseries and Kremlin users now I really like the credible credible sources in front of his directors indictments going on payment of the takeover the AV informer the new coach will see us what I think this is all about but in all seriousness Mike Leach gets his job you should take it he be a fool not to because in the SEC the recruiter who get this is what he's want to because he's a high-powered offense guide you he loves to throw the ball around the SEC is mostly a predominant Ron oriented system for all the schools because you get big running backs of the SEC but the spread is taken over you see it with Auburn injured student menu sprinted out in your hand the ball off to the running backs you need both South Beach system would fit well here right now I think so to recruit surrogates will see what happens so tell me more about Lisa what's what's his background like what Gary came from where you congratulations was a lawyer before he was even a football really with the law school did know that didn't want to practice law very long answer to coach a high school and then got in as assistance at some colleges and his big job that he got was at Texas Tech okay and he coached there any coach multiple quarterbacks that set records in the NCAA like Graham Harrell Cliff Kingsbury was on the coach at Texas Tech so he's coached multiple players are able to get to the NFL even picked up Wes went what Wes Welker gave him a chance Wes Welker by way no school from scholarships or for Mike Leach wow this guy's got it got the I can to get quarterbacks to do what you want them to do guess who also recruited Baker Mayfield man that I take care of everything that you letter for Cliff Kingsbury end up stepping in and taking over for bigger bigger was coming there but so she knows how to recruit and he can turn quarterbacks into really good players as is done with Luke Faulk at Washington state where he now took that job over after leaving Texas Tech so you'll he's been around the game he seen it all she can call an offense for Tennessee this is good because quarterback play Noah Dobbs is going to think your internal skeletal upside but with lychee can make your own tunnel into a top five quarterback in the in the NCAA so this is good if they get him he'll do a lot more unless Phil Fulmer takes a job as my horse † very possible let's look at the at the at the reality of it for the sake of entertainment value in SEC II hope he takes the job of the courts will be crazy I also got Esther Spurrier quote we don't usually give you more the guns he would always give you more exposure to being an SEC but also a note let's talk a little better for me a shout out to FSU people out there will will set aside FSU hate for little Hilary to get to that we got Harcourt Chancellor Jimbo Fisher leaving for about greener pastures but I definitely moderately greater as in money like more money so I can pay more elastic than if they had the second highest paid college coach not next to Nick Sabin like so yeah this he's eye thing is not nigh I should bring up is like 80 million in my heard Gruden 115 units with Hennessey so doubt you'd be right now I think I got money like I yeah like Kiffin an application Albert was coach Nick Sabin is making at 11 million years he would our boss making nine something like that right around yet elder second is Dabo Sweeney was is a silent but hard was a raise after winning the right exactly just to resume our buzz in the top three talk yet so that I do I'll I love you now blame and why not man when he doesn't want to come back anyway he enjoys cushy job when I seen it $15 million limit that when I have press it and if you get like to ask you to get this to me how close you never get around the money Hooters money yeah ESPN goons quarterback can't he gets to write his own check me about Titus I would leave for the state of surprise somehow to be really bad well to me at the top three job in the country of your three it's just top temperature on the top three if you will coach on a coach on the Florida State I want Texas I mean the next one I probably say Alabama or the gators to if you want to run out for to me those the best job in the country know Notre Dame at five just because the proceeds in the alumni base before the statement you got your NFL draft picks, their view the recruits want to go there and play who takes this jobs I want to know since he's gone and yeah well there taught that see the accident he can insert that some you can attorney out of the running or set a master taking other jobs and sought hurt someone to go to tell you who like you were never horny I would love that by the way I want to see you at some point it was like everything there is a coach I love Kim flowchart Charlie Strong that can happen LBJ David ready for the Scott Frost available those in approaching the breath out his load of rescue but it be interesting because guess who else is available in the in in the sunshine state who would just like this up the plaintiff and I am told you Florida State get him now please do not hit entertainment value all my guy if you territories are now no heat anymore have a problem with with with with quarterbacks and offenses here which you had barring the injuries that fortis they had this guy will turn you see what he did at Alabama I'm telling you man he is ready to go and he's listening offers believe it or not yet is I mean he's right ago and I think that is honestly he's the best coach available from the perspective that's available from being able to you'll have to hire on an officer coordinator you can do both and every other coach out the Republican to both Scott Frost be an exception on the keys ready do it at a level like that I think Scott Frost is that he he's unproven right now you know that DCFS of anything is a call please that you see I was young I mean he's like the hot Prospect coach but let me link Evans done on a high level no everyone many you got so I think he's the best coach available for that reason yeah you both can motor quarterbacks Dan Mullen would've been before he took a job runs why same link if it's right available to both I mean you know my FSU hater side once and to take a really bad coach but the thing is man ego right now Florida fell off you know we we have and what would they be in us five years in a row and is kinda frustrating but before that we beat them like four years in a row and it was out is nine find the carriers a foregone conclusion when aborting a what FSU wasn't fun because like deficit I want us both to be good again that wherever your you know who's good to be exactly not what I like to say Diana Seaway know it's I mean Florida and Tennessee for his art he always had the upper hand Tennessee never really get to suffer maybe 1999 but other than that I am and last year what last year Liana should've been this year I will wait prevent 1/14 that when I do 14 notes not bad my glace nothing as we think of it off regardless of that okay so anything goes when changes are yeah I'll be very curious to see I think Herm Edwards gonna take Arizona State I heard it's not done yet not long alternates is pretty much done I heard in principal they can get so how do you want to talk about soundbites not a gas receiver to go together because football is why you play the game all my God I can't wait for have a cold Tennessee I'm surprised and show interest in him yeah why not I think it was too late I think they were still dealing with Schiano and Gandhi while Arizona State already was courting for lack of better term Herm Edwards and I think I think her one to be out there I think they want to be in that area I don't know with you there's an advanced strategic advance final fees from then you don't think you that I was in an East Coast guy I'm not sure either but what I don't play for the Eagles stuff is in and I felt but I do know that note that's interesting to see that once that jobs taken the high-quality jobs left me Nebraska Florida State and Tennessee are really only three that need to be filled me in Nebraska and his foregone conclusion a pretty sure Scott Frost and I mean that's Internet job they that they they want a guy who knows you know who the fans love will go to recruit the crap out of the state because of his notoriety and all the people that will be telling you you but you want to just been born when Scott Frost graduated from Nebraska but all the parents and the people will tell you about them and they're gonna send their kids there so you get the top recruits on the statement of precedent known from the greater talent in state but people enough know that he's respected in the fact that he's gone to know the Florida area you try to he can pluck recruits of Florida go to Nebraska if you can yet easy to establish that so will see connections here I will move onto to some Heisman Trophy candidates sorry so I year your tell me little of the hot take forgot on the mic here about Baker Mayfield I me I still think it's a foregone conclusion that Baker Mayfield is going to be the Heisman trophy when it should be but let let's mean you have some of these note voters who think that the Heisman also should be like moral and not be no animal grabbing your junk and looking at the Kansas Heisman winners have committed a lot of crimes you have a lot of bad things yet to say who they are what they've done but you can use your imagination someone in the 60s and did some things some of them bad my quarterback what quarterback of the of the Buccaneers of I don't know maybe you're right the legend of its all that – but at the end of the day this is the question you have to ask if you don't vote for Baker Mayfield and who is who is the clear front runner besides him three price price allow the risen one I would feel clear your price on hater but yet hundred 25 yards last week versus Notre Dame so I bless let's talk about North Jackson was good to Lamar Jack season stats look good Josefa great but he hasn't is the most often and plan for now this little Starbucks after a quick okay good Lord Mayfield Baker Mayfield 37 passing TDs over 4000 yards passing in the College up to five interceptions only five receptions get 245 yards rushing five TDs rushing to Lamar Jackson 25 TDs $3500 – 2500 Hz fast safe haven what I mean this is a surprising rushing he's got almost 1500 yards rushing and 17 rushing TD sounds perfect stop there because this can answer all your questions ready for this I'm ready tell me Baker stats again this year Baker's got 37 passing TDs in college minutes and sing and play the copper chapter game yet okay here's what I want to do I'm trying to compare because I'm looking at the stats of the March Jackson from last year and what did he do he won the Heisman yeah so to his numbers comes to Baker Mayfield I think you're better if I'm not mistaken let's what have made front to me how many yards has has Baker thrown for 4090 7K mar Jackson threw for 3543 comprising a cave at somebody's house a passing touchdown passing touchdown 3734 Lamar Jackson really here yup I guess you got such a hot start edging soon on how many rushing touchdowns. He's gotta know this is where the Martek yeah having a sticker got five job boards exit 21 Becky get so tensing away so any rent for thousand yards of speakers no souls and that's what tells the skills but so that's what you have to really come down to is if you get a cut somebody up and you compare it if these winners are doing it under really good competition he got big maple beat Ohio State they lost Iowa State the BTC Livingston quality teams Lamar Jackson hasn't done that this year mean they've lost to Clemson they've lost to Kentucky Houston Louisiana yeah I've lost the last accident wrote there that's the difference a Baker Mayfield played bacon every single game Yoplait did so and he's consistent your consistently seen touchdowns he quarterbacked that offense in a way that I don't think anybody else in the NCAA could it so if that's your leader is the most outstanding player in college football which it is and you gotta give him the highest nobody else is done that now they have I believe two losses to Okemos they've got one loss I believe Okemos state of Oklahoma Oklahoma actually sort only get there one loss similar loss or loss to Iowa state that yet that's all Bryce love I believe they have two loss to Stanford to read email on to say and his stats aren't really anything to where the-running benefit of one so to me if you just do that simple math notes that really matter it is if you look at the numbers numbers don't lie you gotta give him the Heisman regardless of what people are saying why he won't win is because he told a Kansas coach of the ground is drunk or because he was latest thing he threw allegedly others tape through a football football bear came out of his hands allegedly he threw a ball at the head of the TSU player during warm-ups whether it was on purpose or not I think was accidental if you are TCU player correct when a quick teaser earlier this year okay yeah Jordan during warm-ups so that they just came out so they're saying look these antics do you whine the past you is this the guy you want terms of the highs and give the font that meant someone is looking like it had a bad name on that stuff doesn't matter because it's like the Hall of Fame you have to just look at what the football player does and what who is the notion to outstanding player that's it right not like committed murder anyone I might acquire a boy you know which is not good happening every makes mistakes their young college kids yeah if it was worst mistakes and be a little bit more worried but I mean a lot of these things are passionate remotely game I think in that case it would kinda take care of itself because it sayeth know he murdered somebody he would play in college football anymore so he would be in the running right but I'm saying is past winners have done something they don't take the Heisman wafer that no other Heisman with the action of Reggie Bush whatever else is kept the Heisman O.J. Simpson Ashley sold his Heisman will he had to get fell into court the court merely as I had to take but it day I was at Caesars NCAA didn't take it away the state took it away that's my point yes exactly which means Heisman trust is not good and so if that's the standards that you have and you have to give to the best player in Baker's not a bad person in that regard I don't know him personally but from what I see I dislike his passion I think you have to get the better of him sometimes not control it now that her NFL that's up to Brock up you know scouts to decide if you can put on a font that's irrelevant right now what can NFL is nothing barren what he does with 100 people compare him to to Johnny men's L but I think the big differences in what I hope is a big difference is I like Johnny Mandel's swagger and she was good for college football and then talk trash and all I get stuffed Baker may fit I hope is not unlike our is not like Manzella and that he does on the substance abuse alleged substance abuse problems and that's what killed Manzella in the NFL bullet also commands on the NFL is that man's aisles and ad lib. her out if you watch Baker Mayfield he actually goes to his reads yet Russians he throws a better ball he's more accurate yeah the two men South Alaska knew he could lessen the photos I think why Mansell turned to no substances by think Baker actually has the skills he dislikes the height what have the size I know I know Manzella small same size as Baker I think they cutting figures hit to getting 20 pounds I gave us a palliate-09610 that is okay foot maybe even yeah I'll think of 6110 mins else about me as I was draft the first round all the same even with the high concerns because everyone's point to Drew breathing a true breeze is listed at 511 is probably more like a 510 29 but it's-it's it's like it you can look at it two different ways because mademoiselle Sue skews me Mayfield never had a Mike Evans yeah that's heraldic imagine that to what numbers would look like and what set so you gotta take all that in into consideration if you want in the day is what you done for me lately this year Baker me." Which I called from week one this podcast by the way you waiver first second I thought he wavered you do who do I hear a second I listen I gave 614161 okay I sent it okay I said I said no and I know what dirt they adjust this may Baker get a second you'll please vote for me would've one but I picked him the winner is all I said yeah so that's Heisman watch by the way that ESPN has the top for three or four who are having a fight tube to New York I as Baker Mayfield number one Bryce love number two Lamar Jackson were three and reshot Penny that's not finalized right now is not is not final as non-China as of right now hello experts: I'm glad you said that I think three or four those are safe anybody thinks Nixon getting sick once Nixon is only going to talk for failing to get you to say sneaking though because he was the founding outermost layer he deserves it but so Hoosier for who goes who get that ticket to the Big Apple right now I'll tell you mine if you're not ready to go yet what John Taylor is a is there an outside shy to go undefeated that's when asking yeah I was a Jonathan Taylor I would not say no would you say listen Jonathan Tiller goes a listen he goes if he runs for 250 and three touchdowns in the skimming of hosting because you have an undefeated team the trash schedule for the reason why there in the top four and he's got good numbers 1800 yards rushing 13 rushing TDs flows are oddly those are guided to another not Gotti and so never what I should if you compare that to say Quan's number sequence numbers and yes a counting one scored in three different ways this year Yep so he's more diverse that make some of them work but outstanding calls for John Taylor being on an undefeated team that Idaho carries a lot of weight I would give her shotgun even though the dog before Jonathan Taylor but he got 19 TDs and over 2000 yards rushing look at this our buddy get ready for only three invites you going to get Baker Bryson Lamar I would not fit I agree that's what I would evolve the committee yeah that the maximum centers and not invite Penny an invite Taylor when Taylor's numbers are better than Penny but Penny plays the weaker conference in a conference is not as much notoriety or school for that matter for the power five that's just wrong and I think you can stick with just three nights without duets with that the Heisman trust to do that think they'll be a good look for them but we'll see what happens but I would never see what happens if I write well let's move on to the upcoming week which is were recording this on Friday after listening to us in the future so let's let's look at some these games are coming up on this is conference championship weekend yes the game this weekend yet again tonight which is at Stanford and USC means you have any you know in any way from Missouri out here is my opinion the plane for a bowl game or nothing in the top four so when you plane for pack 12 the premises great you are putting in a better book and get some money for your school I think USC wins this game by 10 points okay and us Brenda's moms pick in the winter I get only that America had us think that in there what you see is favored by four points not care not that I care okay I think USC was by 10 but I think it's good to be a close game probably pick a score right now let's do it was to score for this game was to pick three games will pick a score absolutely will come back to and see who is close okay so because of the football game 10 points under the say 2717 okay I want to say Stanford wins 2117 okay I like that yet Sanskrit exact address that not all you see is favored something Stanford went out right so it's it's going to get the spread on my picking it up I would also an interesting year old big one for me I'm definitely on my couch watching this one TCU at Oklahoma absolutely Scott watch Baker Mayfield one of his last appearances in a comfortable gang intercedes on the line yeah they will be the final four if they win this game actually get a bump on those in a jump them to write a one loss team winning. Yes it so that's what matters for this and that's a trucking Phil is a trap ETCs number 11 and that the nation are really good team but when you play somebody already in you losing a plane again and George Robert face the same thing you got up yeah you're right it's really hard it is to be the same team a good team twice in one year Zach and I don't mean that to jump games I think Georgia can be offered I think that's gonna happen element getting law thereby like shut out a lot he's feeling under the weather were taken over tonight all you feel better yeah exactly yeah I thinks I think so too because he had a BM once before it was it now I want them soundly just I want Auburn to win I want them to win think they're going to do right here on Johnson CERT is not himself the running right good to be huge law talk to me about this to you think students confidence will be off he doesn't have that that running game when he has the running game is going about you watching his care in the world yet but earlier in the year the running game was not establishing he was the same quarterback that he is now course he got better in a new offense I said he was in the end of your relaxing in it but in a game like this with the pressure the SEC champ should game if your confidence is and they're not coughing your running game and then you force Auburn to be of one dimensional team and just force you to throw against Georgia it can be more difficult to win the way they did again I think George went to scout not running pretty smart being that defensive genius that he is I think he maps this went on I think he gets George and Victor how do you think that Carrie Johnson plays because right now he's day-to-day yes a shoulder injury which is not a leg injury secret could play through it right you think you place oh I do I think you place I think he does play I think you drive to biggest game your career that possible I think three maybe four carries and you're gonna tell if you can play the whole game or not that's it that's with Natalia so I think you why would you not trial be his last college yet because he cannot declare capital and come back when were you but he's got ago we had to good of the year and your injuries as you can see it will stall will have the rest especially the running backs you get a strike while the iron's hot exactly as I can write so I think you definitional reason for him not to try he's going to play it's not like a JT Barrett situation where they might hold him out because you have to play two more games if you win every man that is great I think in exactly the problem is this a number on again I don't I don't want to jump to fark is never going to ratings versus games I think they connect to also we have to talk about it is know when you look at the rankings you have Ohio State at eight right now are they too far down like what's good have to happen offer to have to lose Wisconsin have to lose Oklahoma's good have to lose the promise Alabama moves in give a one lost Georgia Miami hoping to go to be Clemson they can have two losses when you let let's talk about why what's up here in Oregon corrosion Odyssey winner of SC championship game is in Georgia Ace Hardware should Gaynor the yes I think absolutely whoever wins awesome bursary of one loss Miami would get in yes okay I think so I think people are forgetting that Miami was undefeated the entire year they stumbled at the end of the year which is way worse than something at the beginning of the year the apostle yet exactly they lost late they would be the top for a no no loss I will stay liquid for five yet and that's why they're so strong right now so I'm I deafly think Miami gets in if they become eclipses number one team in the nation if you be and I want you in the nation okay you win loss herein you know now it Wisconsin's gonna lose the will be guaranteed to get in but I don't think I mean for Wisconsin loses can Ohio State climb yet let's talk about that so that's the big issue right now yeah can so Odyssey house will be out who would be the third then Alabama's connected end of one of the if any of the top four teams lose no element with getting it beautiful 101 loss Alabama who did he make the conference chance you game over undefeated Wisconsin who just beat Ohio State absolutely because you play the SEC schedule and you beat teams that Auburn lost two and therein got to jump Wisconsin they played nobody thought best quality that it was Michigan the beat Ohio State in this scenario true true also house the timing right about this Alabama whose Alabama play this year they play no LSU Ole Miss telecine and Allison is decent after as part are best when they offer loss to LSU right that's a cadet I'm giddy that when S&S went okay rested SC schedule that they played just so happen that should be down there there opening 04 state a play for state is it in their opening game which is supposed to be and they become huge non-collar same hurdle unfortunately for stay friends way down this year so that is not as out again they were way down right matter but race was not hurt and I came exactly on her at the end while they were to had I came in here doesn't matter to me they be the quality FSU team at the start of the year but you look at the full bodywork right now and that is not a quality when I NASA flight out rather than at the time they beat them that with quality with no you don't you'll just trash not yet using the word that you see force is not a good team you seen a bodyworker not get teams they beat them know you're missing the point now when Alabama played them they played for the state when they had the best quarterback available that's why it's a quality when you talk about Florida State when younger friends wasn't quarterbacking I disagree I disagree 04 suit so you're saying okay that it again using the committee to look at this SSA floor state went oh and 10 Pro 11 wherever they missed a game tour okay they went on 11 but their rank high to beginning your they would look at that is a quality when they would and also can I can tell you why they would if you look at who the committee committee is comprised of they've got the majority of them are southern leaning ties to the South Yaffe conference and to the ACC so they're going to be more biased towards the southern teams than anybody else that's why think Alabama gets the nod why else it's just good for ratings they want Nick Sabin or they want holiday made it such raw better the Wisconsinite I agree with that all I want somebody walking in their losing by 40 in the woods watching the game the rest of time it's bad for yeah but Alabama playing Clemson replay in Oklahoma asking to be a tight game down the rhythm strict yeah what little I don't want Oklahoma play or story Wisconsin playing Alabama you don't want them in their that's why they jump definitely get it let me let me run down Alabama scheduled real quick just to make my point here in Florida State is and is my opinion this not a quality went for state there under 500 right every Colorado state not a good team Ole Miss snag a team Arkansas Madigan team Ellis you will give you that one day they came back the end of the year Mercer Fresno State Vanderbilt Texas A&M which decent that's an average one Tennessee we know the store and that one in Mississippi Mr. B states not a bad not allowed when I have as Gerald they were quality yeah they're pretty good and they lost Auburn so I don't think Demi I think your argument was constant and plenty buddy I think I agree Alabama strength schedule more difficult than Wisconsin but Alabama's strength of schedule is nothing to write home about is that he's right but if you compare Alabama scheduled Wisconsin you do agree that yes office and I grab it but not actually follow my trip he said no yeah but it's it's not like huge is not like Deutschland's should know it's it's it's closer you think we got play Northwestern one week and then Alabama's plain Mississippi state or LSU anybody else it's it's just harder competition every week you can't use it did to me there's a big drop you I been a scenario though they beat Ohio State out – prompting and in my okay so right now yes I agree it's a big caveat if you are into the Ohio State then I'm saying is closer the districts company which we spent lots lots that are you know that so but just finally Wisconsin wins therein for you yet Palazzo is undefeated they beat Ohio State therein. Oklahoma loses their out Auburn loses their out Clemson lose any chance I can stay in see that's the thing does a will they be to lost team I don't think Oklahoma County and Oklahoma so would be if they still it if they stayed in Auburn which they they don't have too long since it some stated some people are sent yet Dennis ever seen Ohio State as a two loss team right could get in as well but pleasant you if the prop the proms in the immediacy like a jet just lost and how you put a team in that just lost to Miami appears that Alabama is collateral plainness if you change the game for this reason etc. tougher game the server is not clean the gators who can trust us couple years who end up getting by default no funds but will you do trashing your own teams on the care that it's true though I am but at the end of the day they can just sit and wait and when nobody else bury themselves because of Auburn loses and Clemson loses Miami and Georgia can't know who who could climb in let's say or of Georgia or Miami lose they can't climb Alabama so they're going to climb in the question is someone's gonna lose these top four teams will lose who's going to be if I had a guess on the state Wisconsin goes down and then I say Auburn ghost meeting Wisconsin loses to Ohio State I do think Wisconsin loses I think Auburn okay so it took a mere commute for than tenacity and failure for that scenario I'll keep Clemson where they are Caverns Ms. Miami okay up and then I'm gonna put at number two middle Oklahoma okay I number three and went up Alabama and then number four Ohio State through our Georgia well I've got Georgia beating Auburn but I don't think they're better than how state really has a mind that's my committee browsing figure you call yourself an SEC like oh yeah politics for sure your Nestlé apologist and you say in the winter the SE champs again does not get in correct 20 losses disagree with that area so I think you're right but I really want that because of his other Southern ties it talked about yeah that's my final for that I write that's my okay okay. Okay so what could happen correct where this is James a game to go to be the final four in some way okay but the question is to escape Alabama keep Alabama outcome Institute team to the put it right because if Wisconsin wins Oklahoma wins Clemson wins but Auburn loses does Georgia jump Alabama to goods because they wanted us to change the game or the thing up in Alabama because albums are to make ahead of yeah that's the question you go put a team it's going to head in with one loss yeah will semi final four cleanse and I think meets Miami number one overall Kristin I'm to say Auburn takes of the Georgia money Auburn wins number two Oklahoma B TCU number three and Wisconsin beat Ohio State for number four I mean that's chalk that's basically exactly the rankings are right now by there's a reason why there think that way is because that's the strength of the teams going from 14 that's my prediction our littlest dust to some scores for a couple of these games are at what Mr. George out Auburn Odyssey down can be a fun one night I think is to be a low-scoring game both teams in a kind of be happy then there's my girlfriend call me girl about that but I think is me a low-scoring game because both teams are to be conservative figure start out the the night feeling each other out do a lot of running the ball so I think the low-scoring game I must say it's can be let's say 17 to 7 and a 1710 and I'm to say Alex and for Auburn takes 17 to 10 I what he think the score for the offer George again yet and that deadline is not due care before listeners Auburn is favored by one point so there's a pretty even game I got Georgia win this game ready I'm ready 3517 who you think it's a high-scoring evening George it takes to well I see that sexy Sony Michel and Nick Chavez on the final games for Georgia just running all over him in Georgia or Auburn just kind of you know Johnson's out they will that's what I tell you I think time of possession this is what wins this King of Georgia can control the ball keep Auburn off the field who's running backs are not good to be healthy I think you have all but having more three elves and they had most of the year in this game and I think George or grinding the clock down there to go to Q Barbara if you look up at work or appoint something to grind down on Auburn's defense which is actually pretty good the storefronts together different sums are spent seven solid but after that I think either it would escape and just impose her will when I die and I as I think some 3517 how how much you know about assuming that Johnson's out Johnson then do you change your prediction know because I think if he plays his last pass 1/4 okay by letter and I don't have the medical reports on this going off what I've seen right so don't take that to flag rates you see I got so I had a seesaw for net last year for net he was his ankle was messed up the entire year he they threw him in there he would play you have like 10 snaps or something 10 touches the of the ball and he was he was mediocre he was not great and I'm more about that because you take a beat in the SEC man does yeah absolutely alright so you ready to close things out here you anything else I think were good what talk about one other thing in and Stauffer sang why Paul bar in my heart out your music you have unwanted what was it you want to talk about well what I want to talk about is mining Crimson anything about that game went on but that one I mean I think Clemson wins I think limbs only wins by a touchdown and I would be surprised if Miley would listen I would love to see a Miami victory because it would just ruffle over the upper love chaos I just love Clemson too much and whether the plaintiff for love watching Kelly Brian play I love that team and the w00t w00t w00t was you happens boy asked us about Phil Fulmer we did talk about it on a fee chart chimed in late Toya but he got put the message on Facebook I yet to come back on the pod they will do one more Jell-O yeah cha-cha-cha Joe is on and Joey to come back with all of us will lease we know and in this is that war I'm notorious for every time that I'm in the captaincy here taken

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Transcript below: Okay here we go summary of headphones turnabout dialogue I hello my Dan Mullen is back with the gators and other coaching changes is exactly what you talk about first off but before that even we want to tell you that this podcast is brought to you by fan Teddy legal for all your business legal needs in etc. etc. so Steve with Diane okay you want to talk about we just talk about how to set it demoing new Florida higher this was for one second and we can do this but let's possibly try to put away our Florida and Tennessee biases here and see if you talk about this from an objective viewpoint was a delicious rush as we can't I alright so demoing Odyssey to save higher the gators I just keep your Internet word over and over say safe is better than Safeco US so too I mean I'll see what we wanted to Kelly that was this the sexy horror that was the offense of juggernaut that we wanted to this this fan base has been starved for offense for the past nine years since Tim Teagle left so we really for some offense and demo my provide that he presided over the 10 people years you know up until other my letters and Chris leak your hand or your little quarterback with Bill this guy I mean Alex Smith was somewhat Chris Lee go talk about 10 people obviously all trash quarterback that he may look a little service it is true for slick trash Buddha when national title and people good throw ball to the OT book and what are you getting a TiVo can do more than one rising is a quality player but I say one thing is that I can coach flat out if you coach those guys might ever get top recruits was you do love you Mike Franks turned Frank into a first round I don't know that for sure hundred but he's got the tools gasket abounds anyway I will probably is like a transfer session get macro and also if you know this heat he's going out we Artie made a run at Justin Fields who will enter a number one overall. Through the negative note here to commit the Georgia Canada Georgia in spite of them having from inside having Easton likes to five stars and I am 1/3 five-star there so that by Georgia can over recruit the best the thing over Surprise he he he committed there but his tiny thing yet so demos making another run at the number 1 Overall Ct. record review if you don't want to happen is Matt corral is a great retreat as well that's our our uniformity for five straight a four-star QB recruit now I want him to leave because were going after Justin Fields and he's a great he's a great recruit good huge arm so hope you stay so I damn all in good hire going to hire my place I appreciate you saying that but it's I just the I do say that the the upside of it is I would always be afraid which of Kelly that he would to both the NFL he got her to three good years boldly FL I do believe that Dan Mullen will stay for the long haul maybe maybe there for 10 years some like thou make easy for each of Kelly will never go back to fell over again to see you know that so I can stimulate today 100% he will okay is too fast for him he doesn't have enough control and his systems don't work there and assistance would work to Florida I guess I'm surprised you to go to Florida be the Nike guy being filled nights boy I thought he would take UCLA job because that's under Armour program he's got you so much loyal to Nike by he did it but he's an SEC kinda guy he can't really know he likes to fly under the radar doesn't do a lot of stuff the kind just wants to call plays and relax yes you see football's life me and yet is want to live that much want to be the West Coast if he don't do yoga and whatever else it should definitely do has pictured everyone picture to Kelly I know that answer right now I'm good doing downward dog to Bob Niekro he got a lot of contacts in the West Coast easy as long as the beater yet and he also is written in the gator contract I'm sure the Tennessee contract as well as boost like certain meta-booster meetings yet to go to look at him all kinds now he and and and and in more on that Tim Bowen he knows the SEC can recruit the SEC is recruited in many different regions of the SEC and most important to me at least is that Dan Ballman knows exactly how to winning the SEC in the top three coach top three or four open the top three or four coaches in Assisi when saying when he was at Mr. B state yeah you want the best once he was okay here is will trivia for the inaugural college playoff rankings in a city state was number 130 go to very first one so get there not one for a while I forgot about that until I like it so they hired him like an x-ray message that was number one for like six weeks you may have Jack yeah Hudak Prescott know yet another quarterback yet so she knows how to exactly guy who no one thought could do anything and also needs the quintuple rice and the felt plane for down frail but yes let's go me good for them it's it it's good when people can get coaches because Tennessee can't well yeah well maybe I would tell each let's talk about Tennessee now I want them to get Leach I would love lately to talaria. They were getting rude and I like to think my life's work on that and I concluded and fall through though it isn't closed yet but you know it's funny because I think they could get Leach the biggest savage out of this is Gandhi go to got almost $1 million raise just today using that the Tennessee job against Oklahoma State yet he's nice and is not stupid cohosting today working to negotiate with them they gave us the basics are $35,000 a day out I take it but I would've loved him Gandhi I think both of my good Gun your leisure being out I love going needed at just the soundbite sounds like Spurrier like with their sound I don't know like Gandhi with the mullet you know you differently than the SEC can tell you later, and I've got him to finish but he said his honey he's even alone there so you know you wasn't gonna leave Yahoo! lines MEI I thought it was close but hit a $3 million take it it's surprising something probably brought them back home I know he's alumni all that he's got family there but Tennessee is just fumbling it but today they picked up the ball yeah they did in it it him in a big way and they got Phil Fulmer yeah now be the a deed to help with the coaching search and it's funny because there's a conspiracy behind this old rule is there conspiracy are you sure tell you I'm a tell you what it is it is funny because the reason why there is a K conspiracy here and people aren't seeing it it's for your gear here for though that's in your form just here to make sure people know okay because Tennessee knew all along they were going to get booted hello baby hello screen shoe smokescreen they held out on Sean because he could give it to them but they didn't think it is hold fans relax okay like Aaron Rodgers does but they knew we want whose Argyle along full form guy right not a CAD scuttlebutt coach what are not to be able to find anybody the recruiting peers are upon us and they're going to close fast while in there and have Phil forward only do the recruiting and end of coaching this team is really the ADA and the Xhosa first the first A.D./coach I contract is that he's not Barry Alvarez and his close but you have to the have to find somebody else to fill in Peyton Manning's get a phone as the ED while in full force the coaches football team hook up on the coach will crash two years that's what I like it. I like it my sources nor the sources are Michael Flynn gave me the source you leave for the crown of the gross out on a good turnout is… She's pled guilty that I say this first plea deal was he had it he had a guy reveal the source all the Russian sources came out in this was in the mix I picked up oh brother with it why I believe this one because alas when you sit with the groomers you said Gruden that he said the designing and the criminally sinews is out there so I did that I was right to not believe those sources nurseries and Kremlin users now I really like the credible credible sources in front of his directors indictments going on payment of the takeover the AV informer the new coach will see us what I think this is all about but in all seriousness Mike Leach gets his job you should take it he be a fool not to because in the SEC the recruiter who get this is what he's want to because he's a high-powered offense guide you he loves to throw the ball around the SEC is mostly a predominant Ron oriented system for all the schools because you get big running backs of the SEC but the spread is taken over you see it with Auburn injured student menu sprinted out in your hand the ball off to the running backs you need both South Beach system would fit well here right now I think so to recruit surrogates will see what happens so tell me more about Lisa what's what's his background like what Gary came from where you congratulations was a lawyer before he was even a football really with the law school did know that didn't want to practice law very long answer to coach a high school and then got in as assistance at some colleges and his big job that he got was at Texas Tech okay and he coached there any coach multiple quarterbacks that set records in the NCAA like Graham Harrell Cliff Kingsbury was on the coach at Texas Tech so he's coached multiple players are able to get to the NFL even picked up Wes went what Wes Welker gave him a chance Wes Welker by way no school from scholarships or for Mike Leach wow this guy's got it got the I can to get quarterbacks to do what you want them to do guess who also recruited Baker Mayfield man that I take care of everything that you letter for Cliff Kingsbury end up stepping in and taking over for bigger bigger was coming there but so she knows how to recruit and he can turn quarterbacks into really good players as is done with Luke Faulk at Washington state where he now took that job over after leaving Texas Tech so you'll he's been around the game he seen it all she can call an offense for Tennessee this is good because quarterback play Noah Dobbs is going to think your internal skeletal upside but with lychee can make your own tunnel into a top five quarterback in the in the NCAA so this is good if they get him he'll do a lot more unless Phil Fulmer takes a job as my horse † very possible let's look at the at the at the reality of it for the sake of entertainment value in SEC II hope he takes the job of the courts will be crazy I also got Esther Spurrier quote we don't usually give you more the guns he would always give you more exposure to being an SEC but also a note let's talk a little better for me a shout out to FSU people out there will will set aside FSU hate for little Hilary to get to that we got Harcourt Chancellor Jimbo Fisher leaving for about greener pastures but I definitely moderately greater as in money like more money so I can pay more elastic than if they had the second highest paid college coach not next to Nick Sabin like so yeah this he's eye thing is not nigh I should bring up is like 80 million in my heard Gruden 115 units with Hennessey so doubt you'd be right now I think I got money like I yeah like Kiffin an application Albert was coach Nick Sabin is making at 11 million years he would our boss making nine something like that right around yet elder second is Dabo Sweeney was is a silent but hard was a raise after winning the right exactly just to resume our buzz in the top three talk yet so that I do I'll I love you now blame and why not man when he doesn't want to come back anyway he enjoys cushy job when I seen it $15 million limit that when I have press it and if you get like to ask you to get this to me how close you never get around the money Hooters money yeah ESPN goons quarterback can't he gets to write his own check me about Titus I would leave for the state of surprise somehow to be really bad well to me at the top three job in the country of your three it's just top temperature on the top three if you will coach on a coach on the Florida State I want Texas I mean the next one I probably say Alabama or the gators to if you want to run out for to me those the best job in the country know Notre Dame at five just because the proceeds in the alumni base before the statement you got your NFL draft picks, their view the recruits want to go there and play who takes this jobs I want to know since he's gone and yeah well there taught that see the accident he can insert that some you can attorney out of the running or set a master taking other jobs and sought hurt someone to go to tell you who like you were never horny I would love that by the way I want to see you at some point it was like everything there is a coach I love Kim flowchart Charlie Strong that can happen LBJ David ready for the Scott Frost available those in approaching the breath out his load of rescue but it be interesting because guess who else is available in the in in the sunshine state who would just like this up the plaintiff and I am told you Florida State get him now please do not hit entertainment value all my guy if you territories are now no heat anymore have a problem with with with with quarterbacks and offenses here which you had barring the injuries that fortis they had this guy will turn you see what he did at Alabama I'm telling you man he is ready to go and he's listening offers believe it or not yet is I mean he's right ago and I think that is honestly he's the best coach available from the perspective that's available from being able to you'll have to hire on an officer coordinator you can do both and every other coach out the Republican to both Scott Frost be an exception on the keys ready do it at a level like that I think Scott Frost is that he he's unproven right now you know that DCFS of anything is a call please that you see I was young I mean he's like the hot Prospect coach but let me link Evans done on a high level no everyone many you got so I think he's the best coach available for that reason yeah you both can motor quarterbacks Dan Mullen would've been before he took a job runs why same link if it's right available to both I mean you know my FSU hater side once and to take a really bad coach but the thing is man ego right now Florida fell off you know we we have and what would they be in us five years in a row and is kinda frustrating but before that we beat them like four years in a row and it was out is nine find the carriers a foregone conclusion when aborting a what FSU wasn't fun because like deficit I want us both to be good again that wherever your you know who's good to be exactly not what I like to say Diana Seaway know it's I mean Florida and Tennessee for his art he always had the upper hand Tennessee never really get to suffer maybe 1999 but other than that I am and last year what last year Liana should've been this year I will wait prevent 1/14 that when I do 14 notes not bad my glace nothing as we think of it off regardless of that okay so anything goes when changes are yeah I'll be very curious to see I think Herm Edwards gonna take Arizona State I heard it's not done yet not long alternates is pretty much done I heard in principal they can get so how do you want to talk about soundbites not a gas receiver to go together because football is why you play the game all my God I can't wait for have a cold Tennessee I'm surprised and show interest in him yeah why not I think it was too late I think they were still dealing with Schiano and Gandhi while Arizona State already was courting for lack of better term Herm Edwards and I think I think her one to be out there I think they want to be in that area I don't know with you there's an advanced strategic advance final fees from then you don't think you that I was in an East Coast guy I'm not sure either but what I don't play for the Eagles stuff is in and I felt but I do know that note that's interesting to see that once that jobs taken the high-quality jobs left me Nebraska Florida State and Tennessee are really only three that need to be filled me in Nebraska and his foregone conclusion a pretty sure Scott Frost and I mean that's Internet job they that they they want a guy who knows you know who the fans love will go to recruit the crap out of the state because of his notoriety and all the people that will be telling you you but you want to just been born when Scott Frost graduated from Nebraska but all the parents and the people will tell you about them and they're gonna send their kids there so you get the top recruits on the statement of precedent known from the greater talent in state but people enough know that he's respected in the fact that he's gone to know the Florida area you try to he can pluck recruits of Florida go to Nebraska if you can yet easy to establish that so will see connections here I will move onto to some Heisman Trophy candidates sorry so I year your tell me little of the hot take forgot on the mic here about Baker Mayfield I me I still think it's a foregone conclusion that Baker Mayfield is going to be the Heisman trophy when it should be but let let's mean you have some of these note voters who think that the Heisman also should be like moral and not be no animal grabbing your junk and looking at the Kansas Heisman winners have committed a lot of crimes you have a lot of bad things yet to say who they are what they've done but you can use your imagination someone in the 60s and did some things some of them bad my quarterback what quarterback of the of the Buccaneers of I don't know maybe you're right the legend of its all that – but at the end of the day this is the question you have to ask if you don't vote for Baker Mayfield and who is who is the clear front runner besides him three price price allow the risen one I would feel clear your price on hater but yet hundred 25 yards last week versus Notre Dame so I bless let's talk about North Jackson was good to Lamar Jack season stats look good Josefa great but he hasn't is the most often and plan for now this little Starbucks after a quick okay good Lord Mayfield Baker Mayfield 37 passing TDs over 4000 yards passing in the College up to five interceptions only five receptions get 245 yards rushing five TDs rushing to Lamar Jackson 25 TDs $3500 – 2500 Hz fast safe haven what I mean this is a surprising rushing he's got almost 1500 yards rushing and 17 rushing TD sounds perfect stop there because this can answer all your questions ready for this I'm ready tell me Baker stats again this year Baker's got 37 passing TDs in college minutes and sing and play the copper chapter game yet okay here's what I want to do I'm trying to compare because I'm looking at the stats of the March Jackson from last year and what did he do he won the Heisman yeah so to his numbers comes to Baker Mayfield I think you're better if I'm not mistaken let's what have made front to me how many yards has has Baker thrown for 4090 7K mar Jackson threw for 3543 comprising a cave at somebody's house a passing touchdown passing touchdown 3734 Lamar Jackson really here yup I guess you got such a hot start edging soon on how many rushing touchdowns. He's gotta know this is where the Martek yeah having a sticker got five job boards exit 21 Becky get so tensing away so any rent for thousand yards of speakers no souls and that's what tells the skills but so that's what you have to really come down to is if you get a cut somebody up and you compare it if these winners are doing it under really good competition he got big maple beat Ohio State they lost Iowa State the BTC Livingston quality teams Lamar Jackson hasn't done that this year mean they've lost to Clemson they've lost to Kentucky Houston Louisiana yeah I've lost the last accident wrote there that's the difference a Baker Mayfield played bacon every single game Yoplait did so and he's consistent your consistently seen touchdowns he quarterbacked that offense in a way that I don't think anybody else in the NCAA could it so if that's your leader is the most outstanding player in college football which it is and you gotta give him the highest nobody else is done that now they have I believe two losses to Okemos they've got one loss I believe Okemos state of Oklahoma Oklahoma actually sort only get there one loss similar loss or loss to Iowa state that yet that's all Bryce love I believe they have two loss to Stanford to read email on to say and his stats aren't really anything to where the-running benefit of one so to me if you just do that simple math notes that really matter it is if you look at the numbers numbers don't lie you gotta give him the Heisman regardless of what people are saying why he won't win is because he told a Kansas coach of the ground is drunk or because he was latest thing he threw allegedly others tape through a football football bear came out of his hands allegedly he threw a ball at the head of the TSU player during warm-ups whether it was on purpose or not I think was accidental if you are TCU player correct when a quick teaser earlier this year okay yeah Jordan during warm-ups so that they just came out so they're saying look these antics do you whine the past you is this the guy you want terms of the highs and give the font that meant someone is looking like it had a bad name on that stuff doesn't matter because it's like the Hall of Fame you have to just look at what the football player does and what who is the notion to outstanding player that's it right not like committed murder anyone I might acquire a boy you know which is not good happening every makes mistakes their young college kids yeah if it was worst mistakes and be a little bit more worried but I mean a lot of these things are passionate remotely game I think in that case it would kinda take care of itself because it sayeth know he murdered somebody he would play in college football anymore so he would be in the running right but I'm saying is past winners have done something they don't take the Heisman wafer that no other Heisman with the action of Reggie Bush whatever else is kept the Heisman O.J. Simpson Ashley sold his Heisman will he had to get fell into court the court merely as I had to take but it day I was at Caesars NCAA didn't take it away the state took it away that's my point yes exactly which means Heisman trust is not good and so if that's the standards that you have and you have to give to the best player in Baker's not a bad person in that regard I don't know him personally but from what I see I dislike his passion I think you have to get the better of him sometimes not control it now that her NFL that's up to Brock up you know scouts to decide if you can put on a font that's irrelevant right now what can NFL is nothing barren what he does with 100 people compare him to to Johnny men's L but I think the big differences in what I hope is a big difference is I like Johnny Mandel's swagger and she was good for college football and then talk trash and all I get stuffed Baker may fit I hope is not unlike our is not like Manzella and that he does on the substance abuse alleged substance abuse problems and that's what killed Manzella in the NFL bullet also commands on the NFL is that man's aisles and ad lib. her out if you watch Baker Mayfield he actually goes to his reads yet Russians he throws a better ball he's more accurate yeah the two men South Alaska knew he could lessen the photos I think why Mansell turned to no substances by think Baker actually has the skills he dislikes the height what have the size I know I know Manzella small same size as Baker I think they cutting figures hit to getting 20 pounds I gave us a palliate-09610 that is okay foot maybe even yeah I'll think of 6110 mins else about me as I was draft the first round all the same even with the high concerns because everyone's point to Drew breathing a true breeze is listed at 511 is probably more like a 510 29 but it's-it's it's like it you can look at it two different ways because mademoiselle Sue skews me Mayfield never had a Mike Evans yeah that's heraldic imagine that to what numbers would look like and what set so you gotta take all that in into consideration if you want in the day is what you done for me lately this year Baker me." Which I called from week one this podcast by the way you waiver first second I thought he wavered you do who do I hear a second I listen I gave 614161 okay I sent it okay I said I said no and I know what dirt they adjust this may Baker get a second you'll please vote for me would've one but I picked him the winner is all I said yeah so that's Heisman watch by the way that ESPN has the top for three or four who are having a fight tube to New York I as Baker Mayfield number one Bryce love number two Lamar Jackson were three and reshot Penny that's not finalized right now is not is not final as non-China as of right now hello experts: I'm glad you said that I think three or four those are safe anybody thinks Nixon getting sick once Nixon is only going to talk for failing to get you to say sneaking though because he was the founding outermost layer he deserves it but so Hoosier for who goes who get that ticket to the Big Apple right now I'll tell you mine if you're not ready to go yet what John Taylor is a is there an outside shy to go undefeated that's when asking yeah I was a Jonathan Taylor I would not say no would you say listen Jonathan Tiller goes a listen he goes if he runs for 250 and three touchdowns in the skimming of hosting because you have an undefeated team the trash schedule for the reason why there in the top four and he's got good numbers 1800 yards rushing 13 rushing TDs flows are oddly those are guided to another not Gotti and so never what I should if you compare that to say Quan's number sequence numbers and yes a counting one scored in three different ways this year Yep so he's more diverse that make some of them work but outstanding calls for John Taylor being on an undefeated team that Idaho carries a lot of weight I would give her shotgun even though the dog before Jonathan Taylor but he got 19 TDs and over 2000 yards rushing look at this our buddy get ready for only three invites you going to get Baker Bryson Lamar I would not fit I agree that's what I would evolve the committee yeah that the maximum centers and not invite Penny an invite Taylor when Taylor's numbers are better than Penny but Penny plays the weaker conference in a conference is not as much notoriety or school for that matter for the power five that's just wrong and I think you can stick with just three nights without duets with that the Heisman trust to do that think they'll be a good look for them but we'll see what happens but I would never see what happens if I write well let's move on to the upcoming week which is were recording this on Friday after listening to us in the future so let's let's look at some these games are coming up on this is conference championship weekend yes the game this weekend yet again tonight which is at Stanford and USC means you have any you know in any way from Missouri out here is my opinion the plane for a bowl game or nothing in the top four so when you plane for pack 12 the premises great you are putting in a better book and get some money for your school I think USC wins this game by 10 points okay and us Brenda's moms pick in the winter I get only that America had us think that in there what you see is favored by four points not care not that I care okay I think USC was by 10 but I think it's good to be a close game probably pick a score right now let's do it was to score for this game was to pick three games will pick a score absolutely will come back to and see who is close okay so because of the football game 10 points under the say 2717 okay I want to say Stanford wins 2117 okay I like that yet Sanskrit exact address that not all you see is favored something Stanford went out right so it's it's going to get the spread on my picking it up I would also an interesting year old big one for me I'm definitely on my couch watching this one TCU at Oklahoma absolutely Scott watch Baker Mayfield one of his last appearances in a comfortable gang intercedes on the line yeah they will be the final four if they win this game actually get a bump on those in a jump them to write a one loss team winning. Yes it so that's what matters for this and that's a trucking Phil is a trap ETCs number 11 and that the nation are really good team but when you play somebody already in you losing a plane again and George Robert face the same thing you got up yeah you're right it's really hard it is to be the same team a good team twice in one year Zach and I don't mean that to jump games I think Georgia can be offered I think that's gonna happen element getting law thereby like shut out a lot he's feeling under the weather were taken over tonight all you feel better yeah exactly yeah I thinks I think so too because he had a BM once before it was it now I want them soundly just I want Auburn to win I want them to win think they're going to do right here on Johnson CERT is not himself the running right good to be huge law talk to me about this to you think students confidence will be off he doesn't have that that running game when he has the running game is going about you watching his care in the world yet but earlier in the year the running game was not establishing he was the same quarterback that he is now course he got better in a new offense I said he was in the end of your relaxing in it but in a game like this with the pressure the SEC champ should game if your confidence is and they're not coughing your running game and then you force Auburn to be of one dimensional team and just force you to throw against Georgia it can be more difficult to win the way they did again I think George went to scout not running pretty smart being that defensive genius that he is I think he maps this went on I think he gets George and Victor how do you think that Carrie Johnson plays because right now he's day-to-day yes a shoulder injury which is not a leg injury secret could play through it right you think you place oh I do I think you place I think he does play I think you drive to biggest game your career that possible I think three maybe four carries and you're gonna tell if you can play the whole game or not that's it that's with Natalia so I think you why would you not trial be his last college yet because he cannot declare capital and come back when were you but he's got ago we had to good of the year and your injuries as you can see it will stall will have the rest especially the running backs you get a strike while the iron's hot exactly as I can write so I think you definitional reason for him not to try he's going to play it's not like a JT Barrett situation where they might hold him out because you have to play two more games if you win every man that is great I think in exactly the problem is this a number on again I don't I don't want to jump to fark is never going to ratings versus games I think they connect to also we have to talk about it is know when you look at the rankings you have Ohio State at eight right now are they too far down like what's good have to happen offer to have to lose Wisconsin have to lose Oklahoma's good have to lose the promise Alabama moves in give a one lost Georgia Miami hoping to go to be Clemson they can have two losses when you let let's talk about why what's up here in Oregon corrosion Odyssey winner of SC championship game is in Georgia Ace Hardware should Gaynor the yes I think absolutely whoever wins awesome bursary of one loss Miami would get in yes okay I think so I think people are forgetting that Miami was undefeated the entire year they stumbled at the end of the year which is way worse than something at the beginning of the year the apostle yet exactly they lost late they would be the top for a no no loss I will stay liquid for five yet and that's why they're so strong right now so I'm I deafly think Miami gets in if they become eclipses number one team in the nation if you be and I want you in the nation okay you win loss herein you know now it Wisconsin's gonna lose the will be guaranteed to get in but I don't think I mean for Wisconsin loses can Ohio State climb yet let's talk about that so that's the big issue right now yeah can so Odyssey house will be out who would be the third then Alabama's connected end of one of the if any of the top four teams lose no element with getting it beautiful 101 loss Alabama who did he make the conference chance you game over undefeated Wisconsin who just beat Ohio State absolutely because you play the SEC schedule and you beat teams that Auburn lost two and therein got to jump Wisconsin they played nobody thought best quality that it was Michigan the beat Ohio State in this scenario true true also house the timing right about this Alabama whose Alabama play this year they play no LSU Ole Miss telecine and Allison is decent after as part are best when they offer loss to LSU right that's a cadet I'm giddy that when S&S went okay rested SC schedule that they played just so happen that should be down there there opening 04 state a play for state is it in their opening game which is supposed to be and they become huge non-collar same hurdle unfortunately for stay friends way down this year so that is not as out again they were way down right matter but race was not hurt and I came exactly on her at the end while they were to had I came in here doesn't matter to me they be the quality FSU team at the start of the year but you look at the full bodywork right now and that is not a quality when I NASA flight out rather than at the time they beat them that with quality with no you don't you'll just trash not yet using the word that you see force is not a good team you seen a bodyworker not get teams they beat them know you're missing the point now when Alabama played them they played for the state when they had the best quarterback available that's why it's a quality when you talk about Florida State when younger friends wasn't quarterbacking I disagree I disagree 04 suit so you're saying okay that it again using the committee to look at this SSA floor state went oh and 10 Pro 11 wherever they missed a game tour okay they went on 11 but their rank high to beginning your they would look at that is a quality when they would and also can I can tell you why they would if you look at who the committee committee is comprised of they've got the majority of them are southern leaning ties to the South Yaffe conference and to the ACC so they're going to be more biased towards the southern teams than anybody else that's why think Alabama gets the nod why else it's just good for ratings they want Nick Sabin or they want holiday made it such raw better the Wisconsinite I agree with that all I want somebody walking in their losing by 40 in the woods watching the game the rest of time it's bad for yeah but Alabama playing Clemson replay in Oklahoma asking to be a tight game down the rhythm strict yeah what little I don't want Oklahoma play or story Wisconsin playing Alabama you don't want them in their that's why they jump definitely get it let me let me run down Alabama scheduled real quick just to make my point here in Florida State is and is my opinion this not a quality went for state there under 500 right every Colorado state not a good team Ole Miss snag a team Arkansas Madigan team Ellis you will give you that one day they came back the end of the year Mercer Fresno State Vanderbilt Texas A&M which decent that's an average one Tennessee we know the store and that one in Mississippi Mr. B states not a bad not allowed when I have as Gerald they were quality yeah they're pretty good and they lost Auburn so I don't think Demi I think your argument was constant and plenty buddy I think I agree Alabama strength schedule more difficult than Wisconsin but Alabama's strength of schedule is nothing to write home about is that he's right but if you compare Alabama scheduled Wisconsin you do agree that yes office and I grab it but not actually follow my trip he said no yeah but it's it's not like huge is not like Deutschland's should know it's it's it's closer you think we got play Northwestern one week and then Alabama's plain Mississippi state or LSU anybody else it's it's just harder competition every week you can't use it did to me there's a big drop you I been a scenario though they beat Ohio State out – prompting and in my okay so right now yes I agree it's a big caveat if you are into the Ohio State then I'm saying is closer the districts company which we spent lots lots that are you know that so but just finally Wisconsin wins therein for you yet Palazzo is undefeated they beat Ohio State therein. Oklahoma loses their out Auburn loses their out Clemson lose any chance I can stay in see that's the thing does a will they be to lost team I don't think Oklahoma County and Oklahoma so would be if they still it if they stayed in Auburn which they they don't have too long since it some stated some people are sent yet Dennis ever seen Ohio State as a two loss team right could get in as well but pleasant you if the prop the proms in the immediacy like a jet just lost and how you put a team in that just lost to Miami appears that Alabama is collateral plainness if you change the game for this reason etc. tougher game the server is not clean the gators who can trust us couple years who end up getting by default no funds but will you do trashing your own teams on the care that it's true though I am but at the end of the day they can just sit and wait and when nobody else bury themselves because of Auburn loses and Clemson loses Miami and Georgia can't know who who could climb in let's say or of Georgia or Miami lose they can't climb Alabama so they're going to climb in the question is someone's gonna lose these top four teams will lose who's going to be if I had a guess on the state Wisconsin goes down and then I say Auburn ghost meeting Wisconsin loses to Ohio State I do think Wisconsin loses I think Auburn okay so it took a mere commute for than tenacity and failure for that scenario I'll keep Clemson where they are Caverns Ms. Miami okay up and then I'm gonna put at number two middle Oklahoma okay I number three and went up Alabama and then number four Ohio State through our Georgia well I've got Georgia beating Auburn but I don't think they're better than how state really has a mind that's my committee browsing figure you call yourself an SEC like oh yeah politics for sure your Nestlé apologist and you say in the winter the SE champs again does not get in correct 20 losses disagree with that area so I think you're right but I really want that because of his other Southern ties it talked about yeah that's my final for that I write that's my okay okay. Okay so what could happen correct where this is James a game to go to be the final four in some way okay but the question is to escape Alabama keep Alabama outcome Institute team to the put it right because if Wisconsin wins Oklahoma wins Clemson wins but Auburn loses does Georgia jump Alabama to goods because they wanted us to change the game or the thing up in Alabama because albums are to make ahead of yeah that's the question you go put a team it's going to head in with one loss yeah will semi final four cleanse and I think meets Miami number one overall Kristin I'm to say Auburn takes of the Georgia money Auburn wins number two Oklahoma B TCU number three and Wisconsin beat Ohio State for number four I mean that's chalk that's basically exactly the rankings are right now by there's a reason why there think that way is because that's the strength of the teams going from 14 that's my prediction our littlest dust to some scores for a couple of these games are at what Mr. George out Auburn Odyssey down can be a fun one night I think is to be a low-scoring game both teams in a kind of be happy then there's my girlfriend call me girl about that but I think is me a low-scoring game because both teams are to be conservative figure start out the the night feeling each other out do a lot of running the ball so I think the low-scoring game I must say it's can be let's say 17 to 7 and a 1710 and I'm to say Alex and for Auburn takes 17 to 10 I what he think the score for the offer George again yet and that deadline is not due care before listeners Auburn is favored by one point so there's a pretty even game I got Georgia win this game ready I'm ready 3517 who you think it's a high-scoring evening George it takes to well I see that sexy Sony Michel and Nick Chavez on the final games for Georgia just running all over him in Georgia or Auburn just kind of you know Johnson's out they will that's what I tell you I think time of possession this is what wins this King of Georgia can control the ball keep Auburn off the field who's running backs are not good to be healthy I think you have all but having more three elves and they had most of the year in this game and I think George or grinding the clock down there to go to Q Barbara if you look up at work or appoint something to grind down on Auburn's defense which is actually pretty good the storefronts together different sums are spent seven solid but after that I think either it would escape and just impose her will when I die and I as I think some 3517 how how much you know about assuming that Johnson's out Johnson then do you change your prediction know because I think if he plays his last pass 1/4 okay by letter and I don't have the medical reports on this going off what I've seen right so don't take that to flag rates you see I got so I had a seesaw for net last year for net he was his ankle was messed up the entire year he they threw him in there he would play you have like 10 snaps or something 10 touches the of the ball and he was he was mediocre he was not great and I'm more about that because you take a beat in the SEC man does yeah absolutely alright so you ready to close things out here you anything else I think were good what talk about one other thing in and Stauffer sang why Paul bar in my heart out your music you have unwanted what was it you want to talk about well what I want to talk about is mining Crimson anything about that game went on but that one I mean I think Clemson wins I think limbs only wins by a touchdown and I would be surprised if Miley would listen I would love to see a Miami victory because it would just ruffle over the upper love chaos I just love Clemson too much and whether the plaintiff for love watching Kelly Brian play I love that team and the w00t w00t w00t was you happens boy asked us about Phil Fulmer we did talk about it on a fee chart chimed in late Toya but he got put the message on Facebook I yet to come back on the pod they will do one more Jell-O yeah cha-cha-cha Joe is on and Joey to come back with all of us will lease we know and in this is that war I'm notorious for every time that I'm in the captaincy here taken

Chad and Steve opine in a Friday Happy Hour edition. Transcript below: Okay here we go summary of headphones turnabout dialogue I hello my Dan Mullen is back with the gators and other coaching changes is exactly what you talk about first off but before that even we want to tell you that this podcast is brought to you by fan Teddy legal for all your business legal needs in etc. etc. so Steve with Diane okay you want to talk about we just talk about how to set it demoing new Florida higher this was for one second and we can do this but let's possibly try to put away our Florida and Tennessee biases here and see if you talk about this from an objective viewpoint was a delicious rush as we can't I alright so demoing Odyssey to save higher the gators I just keep your Internet word over and over say safe is better than Safeco US so too I mean I'll see what we wanted to Kelly that was this the sexy horror that was the offense of juggernaut that we wanted to this this fan base has been starved for offense for the past nine years since Tim Teagle left so we really for some offense and demo my provide that he presided over the 10 people years you know up until other my letters and Chris leak your hand or your little quarterback with Bill this guy I mean Alex Smith was somewhat Chris Lee go talk about 10 people obviously all trash quarterback that he may look a little service it is true for slick trash Buddha when national title and people good throw ball to the OT book and what are you getting a TiVo can do more than one rising is a quality player but I say one thing is that I can coach flat out if you coach those guys might ever get top recruits was you do love you Mike Franks turned Frank into a first round I don't know that for sure hundred but he's got the tools gasket abounds anyway I will probably is like a transfer session get macro and also if you know this heat he's going out we Artie made a run at Justin Fields who will enter a number one overall. Through the negative note here to commit the Georgia Canada Georgia in spite of them having from inside having Easton likes to five stars and I am 1/3 five-star there so that by Georgia can over recruit the best the thing over Surprise he he he committed there but his tiny thing yet so demos making another run at the number 1 Overall Ct. record review if you don't want to happen is Matt corral is a great retreat as well that's our our uniformity for five straight a four-star QB recruit now I want him to leave because were going after Justin Fields and he's a great he's a great recruit good huge arm so hope you stay so I damn all in good hire going to hire my place I appreciate you saying that but it's I just the I do say that the the upside of it is I would always be afraid which of Kelly that he would to both the NFL he got her to three good years boldly FL I do believe that Dan Mullen will stay for the long haul maybe maybe there for 10 years some like thou make easy for each of Kelly will never go back to fell over again to see you know that so I can stimulate today 100% he will okay is too fast for him he doesn't have enough control and his systems don't work there and assistance would work to Florida I guess I'm surprised you to go to Florida be the Nike guy being filled nights boy I thought he would take UCLA job because that's under Armour program he's got you so much loyal to Nike by he did it but he's an SEC kinda guy he can't really know he likes to fly under the radar doesn't do a lot of stuff the kind just wants to call plays and relax yes you see football's life me and yet is want to live that much want to be the West Coast if he don't do yoga and whatever else it should definitely do has pictured everyone picture to Kelly I know that answer right now I'm good doing downward dog to Bob Niekro he got a lot of contacts in the West Coast easy as long as the beater yet and he also is written in the gator contract I'm sure the Tennessee contract as well as boost like certain meta-booster meetings yet to go to look at him all kinds now he and and and and in more on that Tim Bowen he knows the SEC can recruit the SEC is recruited in many different regions of the SEC and most important to me at least is that Dan Ballman knows exactly how to winning the SEC in the top three coach top three or four open the top three or four coaches in Assisi when saying when he was at Mr. B state yeah you want the best once he was okay here is will trivia for the inaugural college playoff rankings in a city state was number 130 go to very first one so get there not one for a while I forgot about that until I like it so they hired him like an x-ray message that was number one for like six weeks you may have Jack yeah Hudak Prescott know yet another quarterback yet so she knows how to exactly guy who no one thought could do anything and also needs the quintuple rice and the felt plane for down frail but yes let's go me good for them it's it it's good when people can get coaches because Tennessee can't well yeah well maybe I would tell each let's talk about Tennessee now I want them to get Leach I would love lately to talaria. They were getting rude and I like to think my life's work on that and I concluded and fall through though it isn't closed yet but you know it's funny because I think they could get Leach the biggest savage out of this is Gandhi go to got almost $1 million raise just today using that the Tennessee job against Oklahoma State yet he's nice and is not stupid cohosting today working to negotiate with them they gave us the basics are $35,000 a day out I take it but I would've loved him Gandhi I think both of my good Gun your leisure being out I love going needed at just the soundbite sounds like Spurrier like with their sound I don't know like Gandhi with the mullet you know you differently than the SEC can tell you later, and I've got him to finish but he said his honey he's even alone there so you know you wasn't gonna leave Yahoo! lines MEI I thought it was close but hit a $3 million take it it's surprising something probably brought them back home I know he's alumni all that he's got family there but Tennessee is just fumbling it but today they picked up the ball yeah they did in it it him in a big way and they got Phil Fulmer yeah now be the a deed to help with the coaching search and it's funny because there's a conspiracy behind this old rule is there conspiracy are you sure tell you I'm a tell you what it is it is funny because the reason why there is a K conspiracy here and people aren't seeing it it's for your gear here for though that's in your form just here to make sure people know okay because Tennessee knew all along they were going to get booted hello baby hello screen shoe smokescreen they held out on Sean because he could give it to them but they didn't think it is hold fans relax okay like Aaron Rodgers does but they knew we want whose Argyle along full form guy right not a CAD scuttlebutt coach what are not to be able to find anybody the recruiting peers are upon us and they're going to close fast while in there and have Phil forward only do the recruiting and end of coaching this team is really the ADA and the Xhosa first the first A.D./coach I contract is that he's not Barry Alvarez and his close but you have to the have to find somebody else to fill in Peyton Manning's get a phone as the ED while in full force the coaches football team hook up on the coach will crash two years that's what I like it. I like it my sources nor the sources are Michael Flynn gave me the source you leave for the crown of the gross out on a good turnout is… She's pled guilty that I say this first plea deal was he had it he had a guy reveal the source all the Russian sources came out in this was in the mix I picked up oh brother with it why I believe this one because alas when you sit with the groomers you said Gruden that he said the designing and the criminally sinews is out there so I did that I was right to not believe those sources nurseries and Kremlin users now I really like the credible credible sources in front of his directors indictments going on payment of the takeover the AV informer the new coach will see us what I think this is all about but in all seriousness Mike Leach gets his job you should take it he be a fool not to because in the SEC the recruiter who get this is what he's want to because he's a high-powered offense guide you he loves to throw the ball around the SEC is mostly a predominant Ron oriented system for all the schools because you get big running backs of the SEC but the spread is taken over you see it with Auburn injured student menu sprinted out in your hand the ball off to the running backs you need both South Beach system would fit well here right now I think so to recruit surrogates will see what happens so tell me more about Lisa what's what's his background like what Gary came from where you congratulations was a lawyer before he was even a football really with the law school did know that didn't want to practice law very long answer to coach a high school and then got in as assistance at some colleges and his big job that he got was at Texas Tech okay and he coached there any coach multiple quarterbacks that set records in the NCAA like Graham Harrell Cliff Kingsbury was on the coach at Texas Tech so he's coached multiple players are able to get to the NFL even picked up Wes went what Wes Welker gave him a chance Wes Welker by way no school from scholarships or for Mike Leach wow this guy's got it got the I can to get quarterbacks to do what you want them to do guess who also recruited Baker Mayfield man that I take care of everything that you letter for Cliff Kingsbury end up stepping in and taking over for bigger bigger was coming there but so she knows how to recruit and he can turn quarterbacks into really good players as is done with Luke Faulk at Washington state where he now took that job over after leaving Texas Tech so you'll he's been around the game he seen it all she can call an offense for Tennessee this is good because quarterback play Noah Dobbs is going to think your internal skeletal upside but with lychee can make your own tunnel into a top five quarterback in the in the NCAA so this is good if they get him he'll do a lot more unless Phil Fulmer takes a job as my horse † very possible let's look at the at the at the reality of it for the sake of entertainment value in SEC II hope he takes the job of the courts will be crazy I also got Esther Spurrier quote we don't usually give you more the guns he would always give you more exposure to being an SEC but also a note let's talk a little better for me a shout out to FSU people out there will will set aside FSU hate for little Hilary to get to that we got Harcourt Chancellor Jimbo Fisher leaving for about greener pastures but I definitely moderately greater as in money like more money so I can pay more elastic than if they had the second highest paid college coach not next to Nick Sabin like so yeah this he's eye thing is not nigh I should bring up is like 80 million in my heard Gruden 115 units with Hennessey so doubt you'd be right now I think I got money like I yeah like Kiffin an application Albert was coach Nick Sabin is making at 11 million years he would our boss making nine something like that right around yet elder second is Dabo Sweeney was is a silent but hard was a raise after winning the right exactly just to resume our buzz in the top three talk yet so that I do I'll I love you now blame and why not man when he doesn't want to come back anyway he enjoys cushy job when I seen it $15 million limit that when I have press it and if you get like to ask you to get this to me how close you never get around the money Hooters money yeah ESPN goons quarterback can't he gets to write his own check me about Titus I would leave for the state of surprise somehow to be really bad well to me at the top three job in the country of your three it's just top temperature on the top three if you will coach on a coach on the Florida State I want Texas I mean the next one I probably say Alabama or the gators to if you want to run out for to me those the best job in the country know Notre Dame at five just because the proceeds in the alumni base before the statement you got your NFL draft picks, their view the recruits want to go there and play who takes this jobs I want to know since he's gone and yeah well there taught that see the accident he can insert that some you can attorney out of the running or set a master taking other jobs and sought hurt someone to go to tell you who like you were never horny I would love that by the way I want to see you at some point it was like everything there is a coach I love Kim flowchart Charlie Strong that can happen LBJ David ready for the Scott Frost available those in approaching the breath out his load of rescue but it be interesting because guess who else is available in the in in the sunshine state who would just like this up the plaintiff and I am told you Florida State get him now please do not hit entertainment value all my guy if you territories are now no heat anymore have a problem with with with with quarterbacks and offenses here which you had barring the injuries that fortis they had this guy will turn you see what he did at Alabama I'm telling you man he is ready to go and he's listening offers believe it or not yet is I mean he's right ago and I think that is honestly he's the best coach available from the perspective that's available from being able to you'll have to hire on an officer coordinator you can do both and every other coach out the Republican to both Scott Frost be an exception on the keys ready do it at a level like that I think Scott Frost is that he he's unproven right now you know that DCFS of anything is a call please that you see I was young I mean he's like the hot Prospect coach but let me link Evans done on a high level no everyone many you got so I think he's the best coach available for that reason yeah you both can motor quarterbacks Dan Mullen would've been before he took a job runs why same link if it's right available to both I mean you know my FSU hater side once and to take a really bad coach but the thing is man ego right now Florida fell off you know we we have and what would they be in us five years in a row and is kinda frustrating but before that we beat them like four years in a row and it was out is nine find the carriers a foregone conclusion when aborting a what FSU wasn't fun because like deficit I want us both to be good again that wherever your you know who's good to be exactly not what I like to say Diana Seaway know it's I mean Florida and Tennessee for his art he always had the upper hand Tennessee never really get to suffer maybe 1999 but other than that I am and last year what last year Liana should've been this year I will wait prevent 1/14 that when I do 14 notes not bad my glace nothing as we think of it off regardless of that okay so anything goes when changes are yeah I'll be very curious to see I think Herm Edwards gonna take Arizona State I heard it's not done yet not long alternates is pretty much done I heard in principal they can get so how do you want to talk about soundbites not a gas receiver to go together because football is why you play the game all my God I can't wait for have a cold Tennessee I'm surprised and show interest in him yeah why not I think it was too late I think they were still dealing with Schiano and Gandhi while Arizona State already was courting for lack of better term Herm Edwards and I think I think her one to be out there I think they want to be in that area I don't know with you there's an advanced strategic advance final fees from then you don't think you that I was in an East Coast guy I'm not sure either but what I don't play for the Eagles stuff is in and I felt but I do know that note that's interesting to see that once that jobs taken the high-quality jobs left me Nebraska Florida State and Tennessee are really only three that need to be filled me in Nebraska and his foregone conclusion a pretty sure Scott Frost and I mean that's Internet job they that they they want a guy who knows you know who the fans love will go to recruit the crap out of the state because of his notoriety and all the people that will be telling you you but you want to just been born when Scott Frost graduated from Nebraska but all the parents and the people will tell you about them and they're gonna send their kids there so you get the top recruits on the statement of precedent known from the greater talent in state but people enough know that he's respected in the fact that he's gone to know the Florida area you try to he can pluck recruits of Florida go to Nebraska if you can yet easy to establish that so will see connections here I will move onto to some Heisman Trophy candidates sorry so I year your tell me little of the hot take forgot on the mic here about Baker Mayfield I me I still think it's a foregone conclusion that Baker Mayfield is going to be the Heisman trophy when it should be but let let's mean you have some of these note voters who think that the Heisman also should be like moral and not be no animal grabbing your junk and looking at the Kansas Heisman winners have committed a lot of crimes you have a lot of bad things yet to say who they are what they've done but you can use your imagination someone in the 60s and did some things some of them bad my quarterback what quarterback of the of the Buccaneers of I don't know maybe you're right the legend of its all that – but at the end of the day this is the question you have to ask if you don't vote for Baker Mayfield and who is who is the clear front runner besides him three price price allow the risen one I would feel clear your price on hater but yet hundred 25 yards last week versus Notre Dame so I bless let's talk about North Jackson was good to Lamar Jack season stats look good Josefa great but he hasn't is the most often and plan for now this little Starbucks after a quick okay good Lord Mayfield Baker Mayfield 37 passing TDs over 4000 yards passing in the College up to five interceptions only five receptions get 245 yards rushing five TDs rushing to Lamar Jackson 25 TDs $3500 – 2500 Hz fast safe haven what I mean this is a surprising rushing he's got almost 1500 yards rushing and 17 rushing TD sounds perfect stop there because this can answer all your questions ready for this I'm ready tell me Baker stats again this year Baker's got 37 passing TDs in college minutes and sing and play the copper chapter game yet okay here's what I want to do I'm trying to compare because I'm looking at the stats of the March Jackson from last year and what did he do he won the Heisman yeah so to his numbers comes to Baker Mayfield I think you're better if I'm not mistaken let's what have made front to me how many yards has has Baker thrown for 4090 7K mar Jackson threw for 3543 comprising a cave at somebody's house a passing touchdown passing touchdown 3734 Lamar Jackson really here yup I guess you got such a hot start edging soon on how many rushing touchdowns. He's gotta know this is where the Martek yeah having a sticker got five job boards exit 21 Becky get so tensing away so any rent for thousand yards of speakers no souls and that's what tells the skills but so that's what you have to really come down to is if you get a cut somebody up and you compare it if these winners are doing it under really good competition he got big maple beat Ohio State they lost Iowa State the BTC Livingston quality teams Lamar Jackson hasn't done that this year mean they've lost to Clemson they've lost to Kentucky Houston Louisiana yeah I've lost the last accident wrote there that's the difference a Baker Mayfield played bacon every single game Yoplait did so and he's consistent your consistently seen touchdowns he quarterbacked that offense in a way that I don't think anybody else in the NCAA could it so if that's your leader is the most outstanding player in college football which it is and you gotta give him the highest nobody else is done that now they have I believe two losses to Okemos they've got one loss I believe Okemos state of Oklahoma Oklahoma actually sort only get there one loss similar loss or loss to Iowa state that yet that's all Bryce love I believe they have two loss to Stanford to read email on to say and his stats aren't really anything to where the-running benefit of one so to me if you just do that simple math notes that really matter it is if you look at the numbers numbers don't lie you gotta give him the Heisman regardless of what people are saying why he won't win is because he told a Kansas coach of the ground is drunk or because he was latest thing he threw allegedly others tape through a football football bear came out of his hands allegedly he threw a ball at the head of the TSU player during warm-ups whether it was on purpose or not I think was accidental if you are TCU player correct when a quick teaser earlier this year okay yeah Jordan during warm-ups so that they just came out so they're saying look these antics do you whine the past you is this the guy you want terms of the highs and give the font that meant someone is looking like it had a bad name on that stuff doesn't matter because it's like the Hall of Fame you have to just look at what the football player does and what who is the notion to outstanding player that's it right not like committed murder anyone I might acquire a boy you know which is not good happening every makes mistakes their young college kids yeah if it was worst mistakes and be a little bit more worried but I mean a lot of these things are passionate remotely game I think in that case it would kinda take care of itself because it sayeth know he murdered somebody he would play in college football anymore so he would be in the running right but I'm saying is past winners have done something they don't take the Heisman wafer that no other Heisman with the action of Reggie Bush whatever else is kept the Heisman O.J. Simpson Ashley sold his Heisman will he had to get fell into court the court merely as I had to take but it day I was at Caesars NCAA didn't take it away the state took it away that's my point yes exactly which means Heisman trust is not good and so if that's the standards that you have and you have to give to the best player in Baker's not a bad person in that regard I don't know him personally but from what I see I dislike his passion I think you have to get the better of him sometimes not control it now that her NFL that's up to Brock up you know scouts to decide if you can put on a font that's irrelevant right now what can NFL is nothing barren what he does with 100 people compare him to to Johnny men's L but I think the big differences in what I hope is a big difference is I like Johnny Mandel's swagger and she was good for college football and then talk trash and all I get stuffed Baker may fit I hope is not unlike our is not like Manzella and that he does on the substance abuse alleged substance abuse problems and that's what killed Manzella in the NFL bullet also commands on the NFL is that man's aisles and ad lib. her out if you watch Baker Mayfield he actually goes to his reads yet Russians he throws a better ball he's more accurate yeah the two men South Alaska knew he could lessen the photos I think why Mansell turned to no substances by think Baker actually has the skills he dislikes the height what have the size I know I know Manzella small same size as Baker I think they cutting figures hit to getting 20 pounds I gave us a palliate-09610 that is okay foot maybe even yeah I'll think of 6110 mins else about me as I was draft the first round all the same even with the high concerns because everyone's point to Drew breathing a true breeze is listed at 511 is probably more like a 510 29 but it's-it's it's like it you can look at it two different ways because mademoiselle Sue skews me Mayfield never had a Mike Evans yeah that's heraldic imagine that to what numbers would look like and what set so you gotta take all that in into consideration if you want in the day is what you done for me lately this year Baker me." Which I called from week one this podcast by the way you waiver first second I thought he wavered you do who do I hear a second I listen I gave 614161 okay I sent it okay I said I said no and I know what dirt they adjust this may Baker get a second you'll please vote for me would've one but I picked him the winner is all I said yeah so that's Heisman watch by the way that ESPN has the top for three or four who are having a fight tube to New York I as Baker Mayfield number one Bryce love number two Lamar Jackson were three and reshot Penny that's not finalized right now is not is not final as non-China as of right now hello experts: I'm glad you said that I think three or four those are safe anybody thinks Nixon getting sick once Nixon is only going to talk for failing to get you to say sneaking though because he was the founding outermost layer he deserves it but so Hoosier for who goes who get that ticket to the Big Apple right now I'll tell you mine if you're not ready to go yet what John Taylor is a is there an outside shy to go undefeated that's when asking yeah I was a Jonathan Taylor I would not say no would you say listen Jonathan Tiller goes a listen he goes if he runs for 250 and three touchdowns in the skimming of hosting because you have an undefeated team the trash schedule for the reason why there in the top four and he's got good numbers 1800 yards rushing 13 rushing TDs flows are oddly those are guided to another not Gotti and so never what I should if you compare that to say Quan's number sequence numbers and yes a counting one scored in three different ways this year Yep so he's more diverse that make some of them work but outstanding calls for John Taylor being on an undefeated team that Idaho carries a lot of weight I would give her shotgun even though the dog before Jonathan Taylor but he got 19 TDs and over 2000 yards rushing look at this our buddy get ready for only three invites you going to get Baker Bryson Lamar I would not fit I agree that's what I would evolve the committee yeah that the maximum centers and not invite Penny an invite Taylor when Taylor's numbers are better than Penny but Penny plays the weaker conference in a conference is not as much notoriety or school for that matter for the power five that's just wrong and I think you can stick with just three nights without duets with that the Heisman trust to do that think they'll be a good look for them but we'll see what happens but I would never see what happens if I write well let's move on to the upcoming week which is were recording this on Friday after listening to us in the future so let's let's look at some these games are coming up on this is conference championship weekend yes the game this weekend yet again tonight which is at Stanford and USC means you have any you know in any way from Missouri out here is my opinion the plane for a bowl game or nothing in the top four so when you plane for pack 12 the premises great you are putting in a better book and get some money for your school I think USC wins this game by 10 points okay and us Brenda's moms pick in the winter I get only that America had us think that in there what you see is favored by four points not care not that I care okay I think USC was by 10 but I think it's good to be a close game probably pick a score right now let's do it was to score for this game was to pick three games will pick a score absolutely will come back to and see who is close okay so because of the football game 10 points under the say 2717 okay I want to say Stanford wins 2117 okay I like that yet Sanskrit exact address that not all you see is favored something Stanford went out right so it's it's going to get the spread on my picking it up I would also an interesting year old big one for me I'm definitely on my couch watching this one TCU at Oklahoma absolutely Scott watch Baker Mayfield one of his last appearances in a comfortable gang intercedes on the line yeah they will be the final four if they win this game actually get a bump on those in a jump them to write a one loss team winning. Yes it so that's what matters for this and that's a trucking Phil is a trap ETCs number 11 and that the nation are really good team but when you play somebody already in you losing a plane again and George Robert face the same thing you got up yeah you're right it's really hard it is to be the same team a good team twice in one year Zach and I don't mean that to jump games I think Georgia can be offered I think that's gonna happen element getting law thereby like shut out a lot he's feeling under the weather were taken over tonight all you feel better yeah exactly yeah I thinks I think so too because he had a BM once before it was it now I want them soundly just I want Auburn to win I want them to win think they're going to do right here on Johnson CERT is not himself the running right good to be huge law talk to me about this to you think students confidence will be off he doesn't have that that running game when he has the running game is going about you watching his care in the world yet but earlier in the year the running game was not establishing he was the same quarterback that he is now course he got better in a new offense I said he was in the end of your relaxing in it but in a game like this with the pressure the SEC champ should game if your confidence is and they're not coughing your running game and then you force Auburn to be of one dimensional team and just force you to throw against Georgia it can be more difficult to win the way they did again I think George went to scout not running pretty smart being that defensive genius that he is I think he maps this went on I think he gets George and Victor how do you think that Carrie Johnson plays because right now he's day-to-day yes a shoulder injury which is not a leg injury secret could play through it right you think you place oh I do I think you place I think he does play I think you drive to biggest game your career that possible I think three maybe four carries and you're gonna tell if you can play the whole game or not that's it that's with Natalia so I think you why would you not trial be his last college yet because he cannot declare capital and come back when were you but he's got ago we had to good of the year and your injuries as you can see it will stall will have the rest especially the running backs you get a strike while the iron's hot exactly as I can write so I think you definitional reason for him not to try he's going to play it's not like a JT Barrett situation where they might hold him out because you have to play two more games if you win every man that is great I think in exactly the problem is this a number on again I don't I don't want to jump to fark is never going to ratings versus games I think they connect to also we have to talk about it is know when you look at the rankings you have Ohio State at eight right now are they too far down like what's good have to happen offer to have to lose Wisconsin have to lose Oklahoma's good have to lose the promise Alabama moves in give a one lost Georgia Miami hoping to go to be Clemson they can have two losses when you let let's talk about why what's up here in Oregon corrosion Odyssey winner of SC championship game is in Georgia Ace Hardware should Gaynor the yes I think absolutely whoever wins awesome bursary of one loss Miami would get in yes okay I think so I think people are forgetting that Miami was undefeated the entire year they stumbled at the end of the year which is way worse than something at the beginning of the year the apostle yet exactly they lost late they would be the top for a no no loss I will stay liquid for five yet and that's why they're so strong right now so I'm I deafly think Miami gets in if they become eclipses number one team in the nation if you be and I want you in the nation okay you win loss herein you know now it Wisconsin's gonna lose the will be guaranteed to get in but I don't think I mean for Wisconsin loses can Ohio State climb yet let's talk about that so that's the big issue right now yeah can so Odyssey house will be out who would be the third then Alabama's connected end of one of the if any of the top four teams lose no element with getting it beautiful 101 loss Alabama who did he make the conference chance you game over undefeated Wisconsin who just beat Ohio State absolutely because you play the SEC schedule and you beat teams that Auburn lost two and therein got to jump Wisconsin they played nobody thought best quality that it was Michigan the beat Ohio State in this scenario true true also house the timing right about this Alabama whose Alabama play this year they play no LSU Ole Miss telecine and Allison is decent after as part are best when they offer loss to LSU right that's a cadet I'm giddy that when S&S went okay rested SC schedule that they played just so happen that should be down there there opening 04 state a play for state is it in their opening game which is supposed to be and they become huge non-collar same hurdle unfortunately for stay friends way down this year so that is not as out again they were way down right matter but race was not hurt and I came exactly on her at the end while they were to had I came in here doesn't matter to me they be the quality FSU team at the start of the year but you look at the full bodywork right now and that is not a quality when I NASA flight out rather than at the time they beat them that with quality with no you don't you'll just trash not yet using the word that you see force is not a good team you seen a bodyworker not get teams they beat them know you're missing the point now when Alabama played them they played for the state when they had the best quarterback available that's why it's a quality when you talk about Florida State when younger friends wasn't quarterbacking I disagree I disagree 04 suit so you're saying okay that it again using the committee to look at this SSA floor state went oh and 10 Pro 11 wherever they missed a game tour okay they went on 11 but their rank high to beginning your they would look at that is a quality when they would and also can I can tell you why they would if you look at who the committee committee is comprised of they've got the majority of them are southern leaning ties to the South Yaffe conference and to the ACC so they're going to be more biased towards the southern teams than anybody else that's why think Alabama gets the nod why else it's just good for ratings they want Nick Sabin or they want holiday made it such raw better the Wisconsinite I agree with that all I want somebody walking in their losing by 40 in the woods watching the game the rest of time it's bad for yeah but Alabama playing Clemson replay in Oklahoma asking to be a tight game down the rhythm strict yeah what little I don't want Oklahoma play or story Wisconsin playing Alabama you don't want them in their that's why they jump definitely get it let me let me run down Alabama scheduled real quick just to make my point here in Florida State is and is my opinion this not a quality went for state there under 500 right every Colorado state not a good team Ole Miss snag a team Arkansas Madigan team Ellis you will give you that one day they came back the end of the year Mercer Fresno State Vanderbilt Texas A&M which decent that's an average one Tennessee we know the store and that one in Mississippi Mr. B states not a bad not allowed when I have as Gerald they were quality yeah they're pretty good and they lost Auburn so I don't think Demi I think your argument was constant and plenty buddy I think I agree Alabama strength schedule more difficult than Wisconsin but Alabama's strength of schedule is nothing to write home about is that he's right but if you compare Alabama scheduled Wisconsin you do agree that yes office and I grab it but not actually follow my trip he said no yeah but it's it's not like huge is not like Deutschland's should know it's it's it's closer you think we got play Northwestern one week and then Alabama's plain Mississippi state or LSU anybody else it's it's just harder competition every week you can't use it did to me there's a big drop you I been a scenario though they beat Ohio State out – prompting and in my okay so right now yes I agree it's a big caveat if you are into the Ohio State then I'm saying is closer the districts company which we spent lots lots that are you know that so but just finally Wisconsin wins therein for you yet Palazzo is undefeated they beat Ohio State therein. Oklahoma loses their out Auburn loses their out Clemson lose any chance I can stay in see that's the thing does a will they be to lost team I don't think Oklahoma County and Oklahoma so would be if they still it if they stayed in Auburn which they they don't have too long since it some stated some people are sent yet Dennis ever seen Ohio State as a two loss team right could get in as well but pleasant you if the prop the proms in the immediacy like a jet just lost and how you put a team in that just lost to Miami appears that Alabama is collateral plainness if you change the game for this reason etc. tougher game the server is not clean the gators who can trust us couple years who end up getting by default no funds but will you do trashing your own teams on the care that it's true though I am but at the end of the day they can just sit and wait and when nobody else bury themselves because of Auburn loses and Clemson loses Miami and Georgia can't know who who could climb in let's say or of Georgia or Miami lose they can't climb Alabama so they're going to climb in the question is someone's gonna lose these top four teams will lose who's going to be if I had a guess on the state Wisconsin goes down and then I say Auburn ghost meeting Wisconsin loses to Ohio State I do think Wisconsin loses I think Auburn okay so it took a mere commute for than tenacity and failure for that scenario I'll keep Clemson where they are Caverns Ms. Miami okay up and then I'm gonna put at number two middle Oklahoma okay I number three and went up Alabama and then number four Ohio State through our Georgia well I've got Georgia beating Auburn but I don't think they're better than how state really has a mind that's my committee browsing figure you call yourself an SEC like oh yeah politics for sure your Nestlé apologist and you say in the winter the SE champs again does not get in correct 20 losses disagree with that area so I think you're right but I really want that because of his other Southern ties it talked about yeah that's my final for that I write that's my okay okay. Okay so what could happen correct where this is James a game to go to be the final four in some way okay but the question is to escape Alabama keep Alabama outcome Institute team to the put it right because if Wisconsin wins Oklahoma wins Clemson wins but Auburn loses does Georgia jump Alabama to goods because they wanted us to change the game or the thing up in Alabama because albums are to make ahead of yeah that's the question you go put a team it's going to head in with one loss yeah will semi final four cleanse and I think meets Miami number one overall Kristin I'm to say Auburn takes of the Georgia money Auburn wins number two Oklahoma B TCU number three and Wisconsin beat Ohio State for number four I mean that's chalk that's basically exactly the rankings are right now by there's a reason why there think that way is because that's the strength of the teams going from 14 that's my prediction our littlest dust to some scores for a couple of these games are at what Mr. George out Auburn Odyssey down can be a fun one night I think is to be a low-scoring game both teams in a kind of be happy then there's my girlfriend call me girl about that but I think is me a low-scoring game because both teams are to be conservative figure start out the the night feeling each other out do a lot of running the ball so I think the low-scoring game I must say it's can be let's say 17 to 7 and a 1710 and I'm to say Alex and for Auburn takes 17 to 10 I what he think the score for the offer George again yet and that deadline is not due care before listeners Auburn is favored by one point so there's a pretty even game I got Georgia win this game ready I'm ready 3517 who you think it's a high-scoring evening George it takes to well I see that sexy Sony Michel and Nick Chavez on the final games for Georgia just running all over him in Georgia or Auburn just kind of you know Johnson's out they will that's what I tell you I think time of possession this is what wins this King of Georgia can control the ball keep Auburn off the field who's running backs are not good to be healthy I think you have all but having more three elves and they had most of the year in this game and I think George or grinding the clock down there to go to Q Barbara if you look up at work or appoint something to grind down on Auburn's defense which is actually pretty good the storefronts together different sums are spent seven solid but after that I think either it would escape and just impose her will when I die and I as I think some 3517 how how much you know about assuming that Johnson's out Johnson then do you change your prediction know because I think if he plays his last pass 1/4 okay by letter and I don't have the medical reports on this going off what I've seen right so don't take that to flag rates you see I got so I had a seesaw for net last year for net he was his ankle was messed up the entire year he they threw him in there he would play you have like 10 snaps or something 10 touches the of the ball and he was he was mediocre he was not great and I'm more about that because you take a beat in the SEC man does yeah absolutely alright so you ready to close things out here you anything else I think were good what talk about one other thing in and Stauffer sang why Paul bar in my heart out your music you have unwanted what was it you want to talk about well what I want to talk about is mining Crimson anything about that game went on but that one I mean I think Clemson wins I think limbs only wins by a touchdown and I would be surprised if Miley would listen I would love to see a Miami victory because it would just ruffle over the upper love chaos I just love Clemson too much and whether the plaintiff for love watching Kelly Brian play I love that team and the w00t w00t w00t was you happens boy asked us about Phil Fulmer we did talk about it on a fee chart chimed in late Toya but he got put the message on Facebook I yet to come back on the pod they will do one more Jell-O yeah cha-cha-cha Joe is on and Joey to come back with all of us will lease we know and in this is that war I'm notorious for every time that I'm in the captaincy here taken