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Fantasy author Sarah Brooks is a writer living in Leeds. She won the Lucy Cavendish Prize in 2019 and a Northern Debut Award from New Writing North in 2021. She works in East Asian Studies at the University of Leeds, where she helps run the Leeds Centre for New Chinese Writing. She is co-editor of Samovar, a bilingual online magazine for translated speculative fiction.The Cautious Traveller's Guide to the Wastelands is her debut novel and has been published by Weidenfeld and Nicolson in the UK and Flatiron Books in the US in June 2024.For fans of Piranesi and The Midnight Library, a stunning historical fantasy novel set on a grand express train, about a group of passengers on a dangerous journey across a magical landscapeIt is said there is a price that every passenger must pay. A price beyond the cost of a ticket.There is only one way to travel across the Wastelands: on the Trans-Siberian Express, a train as famous for its luxury as for its danger. The train is never short of passengers, eager to catch sight of Wastelands creatures more miraculous and terrifying than anything they could imagine. But on the train's last journey, something went horribly wrong, though no one seems to remember what exactly happened. Not even Zhang Weiwei, who has spent her life onboard and thought she knew all of the train's secrets.Now, the train is about to embark again, with a new set of passengers. Among them are Marya Petrovna, a grieving woman with a borrowed name; Henry Grey, a disgraced naturalist looking for redemption; and Elena, a beguiling stowaway with a powerful connection to the Wastelands itself. Weiwei knows she should report Elena, but she can't help but be drawn to her. As the girls begin a forbidden friendship, there are warning signs that the rules of the Wastelands are changing and the train might once again be imperiled. Can the passengers trust each other, as the wildness outside threatens to consume them all?https://www.instagram.com/sarah_l_brooksVOX VOMITUS: Sometimes, it's not what goes right in the writing process, it's what goes horribly wrong.Host Jennifer Anne Gordon, award-winning gothic horror novelist and Co-Host Allison Martine, award-winning contemporary romance and speculative fiction novelist have taken on the top and emerging new authors of the day, including Josh Malerman (BIRDBOX, PEARL), Paul Tremblay (THE PALLBEARERS CLUB, SURVIVOR SONG), May Cobb (MY SUMMER DARLINGS, THE HUNTING WIVES), Amanda Jayatissa (MY SWEET GIRL), Carol Goodman (THE STRANGER BEHIND YOU), Meghan Collins (THE FAMILY PLOT), and dozens more in the last year alone. Pantsers, plotters, and those in between have talked everything from the “vomit draft” to the publishing process, dream-cast movies that are already getting made, and celebrated wins as the author-guests continue to shine all over the globe.www.jenniferannegordon.comwww.afictionalhubbard.comhttps://www.facebook.com/VoxVomituspodcasthttps://twitter.com/VoxVomitus#voxvomitus #voxvomituspodcast #authorswhopodcast #authors #authorlife #authorsoninstagram #authorsinterviewingauthors #livevideopodcast #livepodcast #bookstagram #liveauthorinterview #voxvomituslivevideopodcast #Jennifergordon

Send us a textOne of the most treated heart rhythm disorders in the United States is irregular heart activity known as Atrial Fibrillation or Afib. Dr. Weiwei Li, electrophysiologist at St. Luke's Heart Care Clinic, returns to the podcast to discuss a new treatment option for Afib, Pulsed Field Ablation.To learn more about heart care services at St. Luke's, visit unitypoint.org/cr-heart.Do you have a question about a trending medical topic? Ask Dr. Arnold! Submit your question and it may be answered by Dr. Arnold on the podcast! Submit your questions at: https://www.unitypoint.org/cedarrapids/submit-a-question-for-the-mailbag.aspxIf you have a topic you'd like Dr. Arnold to discuss with a guest on the podcast, shoot us an email at stlukescr@unitypoint.org.

Weiwei Wang is the co-director of the Vermont Professionals of Color Network. The network's mission is to advance the economic and social prosperity of people of color across the state of Vermont. They also provide consultation services to businesses and organizations.

Hold on tight, folks, because THIS week on ThursdAI felt like riding a roller coaster through the wild world of open-source AI - extreme highs, mind-bending twists, and a sprinkle of "wtf is happening?" conspiracy theories for good measure.

你谈过跨国恋吗？在第二期嘉宾节目中，我们邀请到了朋友Weiwei来分享她和她的外国男友在日常相处中的点点滴滴。语言不通怎么办？文化有隔阂如何跨越？男友竟爱她爱到每次在路口都舍不得分开？虽然跨国恋需要更多的耐心和努力，但它让Weiwei领悟到一段健康的亲密关系的真正含义——也让蛋蛋总结出适用于所有恋爱关系的指导方针。本期节目笑点与高光齐聚，建议大家在空闲时收听，否则你可能会忍不住一起笑出声哦～1:38 嘉宾自我介绍3:04 Weiwei对蛋蛋的初印象 – “在我的印象里，T长大后都是要剪短发的”7:02 “被T搭讪，我的第一反应是XXX”9:38 直女会如何判断一个人是不是‘通讯录'？11:32 les版“百变大咖秀” - 直女眼里的T都是怎么讲话的？13:18 本期主题：Weiwei和她的韩国男友的相处秘诀大揭晓16:43 在交往初期，双方因为文化/背景不同而吵过的架19:36 面对两人之间的不同，Weiwei是如何跟对方沟通并解决问题的？22:39 吵架过后，互给给对方台阶下也很重要24:30 语言不通，为什么反倒成为了有利于关系的优点？25:16 在亲密关系中要学会“抓大放小”26:32 和本国人vs.外国人谈恋爱的不同：“他从来不会评价我胖了/瘦了”30:26 双方的父母对于这段跨国恋的态度：“恋爱是你们两个人的事情”33:23 想谈一场认真的跨国恋，耐心是最核心的要素之一34:39 把每段恋爱都当成“跨国恋”去谈 – 通过Weiwei的经历获得的宝贵体会36:11 蛋蛋“犀利”提问：两个人现在可以在对方面前随意放屁吗37:45 Weiwei看LGBTQ+：承认自己喜欢同性是一件需要很多勇气的事39:15 Weiwei提问环节：对方在“炒菜”的哪个瞬间最Sexy？什么时候发现自己爱上对方了？41:20 “天选之0”蛋蛋 vs. “温柔爹系”土豆43:26 爱上对方不在某个瞬间，而在于柴米油盐—邮件投稿：⁠eggieandpotato0216@gmail.com⁠关注微博追踪“粉丝专属”动态：⁠@蛋蛋与土豆⁠Instagram: eggiexpotato小宇宙｜网易云｜喜马拉雅｜Apple Podcast｜Spotify：《橘外人》

In this episode of the Epigenetics Podcast, we talked with Weiwei Dang from Baylor College of Medicine about his work on molecular mechanisms of aging and the role of H3K36me3 and cryptic transcription in cellular aging. The team in the Weiwei Dang lab explored the connection between histone marks, specifically H4K16 acetylation and H3K36 methylation, and aging. Dr. Dang describes how the lab conducted experiments by mutating H4K16 to determine its effect on lifespan. They observed that the mutation to glutamine accelerated the aging process and shortened lifespan, providing causal evidence for the relationship between H4K16 and lifespan. They also discovered that mutations in acetyltransferase and demethylase enzymes had opposite effects on lifespan, further supporting a causal relationship. Weiwei Dang then discusses their expanded research on aging, conducting high-throughput screens to identify other histone residues and mutants in yeast that regulate aging. They found that most mutations at K36 shortened lifespan, and so they decided to follow up on a site that is known to be methylated and play a role in gene function. They discovered that H3K36 methylation helps suppress cryptic transcription, which is transcription that initiates from within the gene rather than at the promoter. Mutants lacking K36 methylation showed an aging phenotype. They also found evidence of cryptic transcription in various datasets related to aging and senescence, including C. elegans and mammalian cells. References Dang, W., Steffen, K., Perry, R. et al. Histone H4 lysine 16 acetylation regulates cellular lifespan. Nature 459, 802–807 (2009). https://doi.org/10.1038/nature08085 Sen, P., Dang, W., Donahue, G., Dai, J., Dorsey, J., Cao, X., Liu, W., Cao, K., Perry, R., Lee, J. Y., Wasko, B. M., Carr, D. T., He, C., Robison, B., Wagner, J., Gregory, B. D., Kaeberlein, M., Kennedy, B. K., Boeke, J. D., & Berger, S. L. (2015). H3K36 methylation promotes longevity by enhancing transcriptional fidelity. Genes & development, 29(13), 1362–1376. https://doi.org/10.1101/gad.263707.115 Yu, R., Cao, X., Sun, L. et al. Inactivating histone deacetylase HDA promotes longevity by mobilizing trehalose metabolism. Nat Commun 12, 1981 (2021). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-021-22257-2 McCauley, B.S., Sun, L., Yu, R. et al. Altered chromatin states drive cryptic transcription in aging mammalian stem cells. Nat Aging 1, 684–697 (2021). https://doi.org/10.1038/s43587-021-00091-x   Related Episodes Epigenetic Mechanisms of Aging and Longevity (Shelley Berger) Epigenetic Clocks and Biomarkers of Ageing (Morgan Levine) Gene Dosage Alterations in Evolution and Ageing (Claudia Keller Valsecchi)   Contact Epigenetics Podcast on X Epigenetics Podcast on Instagram Epigenetics Podcast on Mastodon Epigenetics Podcast on Bluesky Epigenetics Podcast on Threads Active Motif on X Active Motif on LinkedIn Email: podcast@activemotif.com

Weiwei Gao, former UVA Cavalier, shares his journey in golf, from his junior and college career to his transition to professional golf. He discusses the challenges of finding golf courses to practice on in Virginia and the decision to move to Jacksonville for better practice opportunities. Weiwei also talks about the competition in college golf, playing in international tournaments, and the realities of professional golf outside of the PGA and Korn Ferry Tours. He shares his passion for creating golf content and his plans for a YouTube channel. The conversation concludes with a discussion about his experiences at the Asian Games and his favorite courses in Charlottesville.

After touching on this year's rostermania in the LCK and LEC, this week Thorin and Monte turn their discussions to North America and Europe. With Cloud9's acquisition of Jojopyun, will they be the presumptive title favorites in the LCS? Over in China, Knight has announced his move to BLG, Weiwei signs with LNG, and OMG topside moves to NiP to play alongside Rookie. Riot finally steps in to takeover the LPL English broadcast as well, but it comes at the cost of downsizing the already meager casting crew on the league.

With tracks from Lavie Orange, Shur-i-kan, Anton Kubikov, Alexander Robotnick, Venice Arms, Carreno is LB, Kurc & Chausi, Marc & OVEUS, Masters At Work, Tiger & Woods, Essaie Pas, Hardt Antoine, John Tejada, Damiano Von Erckert, Romanthony, Terr, Wassermann, Mighty Dub Katz, Luiz Henrique. Contact: dj@ribeaud.ch.

The BIPOC community is the fastest-growing demographic in the state, with a 112% increase over the last decade. Tino and Weiwei are actively working to build generational wealth for BIPOC-identifying individuals, but their approach is not financial—it's social. They are opening doors, sharing resources, and nurturing a network that will leave a lasting impact on the BIPOC community for generations to come. Today, we introduce Tino and Weiwei, the Co-Executive Directors of the Vermont Professionals of Color Network. It wouldn't be a stretch to call them motivational speakers, this episode left us moved. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Charles sat down with dancer and choreographer Weiwei Ma. They discuss drawing creative inspiration from Chinese culture and traditions, her journey from traditional dance in China to contemporary dance in Philadelphia, and her newest work “24 Solar Terms.”

Design Museum curator Rachel Hajek makes sense of Ai Weiwei's ‘fields' of found objects, from ancient Chinese porcelain to Lego bricks, and how the contemporary artist's fascination with the history of making is itself making history. One of the world's most well-known living artists and activists, Ai Weiwei works across disciplines, from film and sculpture, to collection, curation, and archealogical excavation. But Making Sense is his first exhibition to focus on design and architecture, and how traditional crafts and artefacts can help us re/consider what we value today. One of Weiwei's ‘fields' of found objects features over 200,000 hand-crafted porcelain spouts from Song dynasty China, their sheer quantity a testament to the scale of mass-production in Asia, many centuries before the Industrial Revolution. Curator Rachel Hajek digs into Weiwei's practice and politics, exploring tensions between the minor and the monumental, construction and destruction, and past and present. Plus, how the artist reimagines ‘Western masterpieces' like Claude Monet's Waterlilies with LEGO. to articulate his relationships with his father, a poet subjugated during the Cultural Revolution, and the Chinese state today. Ai Weiwei: Making Sense runs at the Design Museum in London until 30 July 2023. For more, read my article in gowithYamo: https://www.gowithyamo.com/blog/making-sense-ai-weiwei-at-the-design-museum WITH: Rachel Hajek, Assistant Curator at the Design Museum, and a curator of Making Sense. ART: ‘Spouts, Ai Weiwei (2023)'. PRODUCER: Jelena Sofronijevic. Follow EMPIRE LINES at: twitter.com/jelsofron/status/1306563558063271936 Support EMPIRE LINES on Patreon: patreon.com/empirelines

ChatGTP, Dall E are but examples of how accessible Artificial Intelligence (AI) is currently. With Weiwei Feng we discuss the current state of AI and its merits. AI has its ethical dilemmas and it is difficult to check if AI is doing what you want. The possibilities are endless and that is what we explore in this podcast. The tech topics of this podcast episode are: AI eye contact for camera feeds by NVIDIA (https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/26/23572459/ai-eye-contact-tech-nvidia-movie-edit-clips) Massive Microsoft outage (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/massive-microsoft-365-outage-caused-by-wan-router-ip-change/)

Dr. Weiwei Li, cardiologist with St. Luke's Heart Care Clinic, joins Dr. Arnold to discuss electrophysiology, or EP for short, which is a specialization within the field of cardiology that includes procedures such as pacemakers and defibrillators. St. Luke's is home to one of the most technologically advanced EP facilities in the state. To learn more about St. Luke's Heart Care program, visit unitypoint.org/heartcare.Do you have a question about a trending medical topic? Ask Dr. Arnold! Submit your question and it may be answered by Dr. Arnold on the podcast! Submit your questions at: https://www.unitypoint.org/cedarrapids/submit-a-question-for-the-mailbag.aspx If you have a topic you'd like Dr. Arnold to discuss with a guest on the podcast, shoot us an email at stlukescr@unitypoint.org.

Weiwei Fellman is the founder of Kota Botanics, a premium hemp CBD and plant-based health supplements company located in Fargo, North Dakota. Weiwei is a proud first-generation immigrant from China to the United States. Having been raised in China, she was familiar with the benefits of plant-based medicine (Traditional Chinese Medicine) for illness treatments and wellness improvement.After leaving a stable corporate job she started Kota Organics, a premium CBD wellness retail shop in Fargo. Within a year, Kota became the largest premium CBD wellness retailer in the state of North Dakota. Their sun-grown hemp is certified organic and they partner directly with one of nation's best artisanal hemp farm in upstate, NY. From soil to bottle, Kota guarantees the integrity, transparency, and safety of all of their products.Weiwei shares her journey of starting Kota Botanics in Fargo, North Dakota and how she is working to share the benefits of CBD within the Asian community in the midwest. She also shares her triumphs and struggles with building the largest premium CBD wellness retail operation in North Dakota.Find our more about Weiwei Fellman and Kota Botanics: Kota Botanics Facebook Instagram Twitter Weiwei Fellman

Do you struggle with fear and anxiety holding you back from living a full life? Do you desire to find relief and live a life you love? This episode shares the potential of CBD for relief of everything from mild anxiety to PTSD and fear holding you back from success. Key Takeaways: Tap into the potential of natural methods for stress and anxiety relief Break the stigma of what CBD is Understand the different types of CBD Learn the importance of sourcing high quality CBD Discover how CBD can help you recallibrate, find calm and destress Explore how CBD can help promote a healthy lifestyle About my guest: WeiWei Felman was raised in China, and immigrated to The USA after meeting her now husband who is from Fargo, ND. Being from China, WeiWei is familiar with the benefits of plant-based medicine found in Traditional Chinese Medicine for the treatment of illnesses and improvements in overall wellness. Weiwei suffered from personal trauma, anxiety and PTSD and after tireless searching for relief, she finally found hope with CBD. She was amazed at how much it helped improve her mental and physical health.This finding inspired her to leave her corporate job and start Kota Botancis a retail store selling premium CBD products. Within a year, Kota became the largest premium CBD wellness retailer in the state of North Dakota. After months and months of extensive searching, She was able to start her own premium CBD brand which she launched in late 2020, Kota Botanics is a premium artisanal hemp CBD wellness brand sold all around the country. Special offers: Listeners of this episode can receive 15% off all Kota Botanics branded products with code fargofitfriend15 to use at checkout! Shop here: Kota Botanics Learn more: About Kota Botanics Learn more about WeiWei Fellman

Sur le fil est en pause estivale. Au mois d'août, nous rediffusons nos meilleurs épisodes.  Le célèbre dissident chinois Ai Weiwei est exposé en Autriche pour une grande rétrospective intitulée “en quête d'humanité”, visible jusqu'au 4 septembre 2022 à Vienne. Le photographe, plasticien et architecte s'inquiète de la fragilité des démocraties occidentales face à la guerre en Ukraine.  Cet épisode a été diffusé pour la première fois le 29 mars 2022.   Sur le terrain : Celine Jankowiak et Jastinder Khera. Récit : Camille Kauffmann. Sur le Fil est le podcast quotidien de l'AFP. Vous avez des commentaires ? Ecrivez-nous à podcast@afp.com ou sur notre compte Instagram. Vous pouvez aussi nous envoyer une note vocale par Whatsapp au + 33 6 79 77 38 45. Pour découvrir les coulisses de l'AFP et les récits de nos reporters et photographes sur leurs expériences sur le terrain, écoutez notre playlist  “Les Coulisses du Fil”.   Si vous aimez, abonnez-vous, parlez de nous autour de vous et laissez-nous plein d'étoiles sur votre plateforme de podcasts préférée pour mieux faire connaître notre programme !  

Cruising is my passion and I have something on my bucket list that I must do. I want to visit Hawaii.  I know Hawaii can be pricey and you want to visit more than one island and you don't want to jump on and off planes to go island hopping…Today we are going to talk about a ship called Pride of America.    It is the Norwegian Cruise lines. You can take in the best of Hilo with a leisurely drive through Hilo Walk of Fame known for those beautiful banyan trees.Or what about the Land of Frozen Fire…you will pass through the lava fields. This is simply remarkable.  Honolulu, Oahu   You will board here…but you will see the Stunning Koolau mountains.  Honolulu is Hawaii's largest city…but you can still clime to the top of Diamond Head.  Or stroll along Waikiki beach…or if you are into history, you can visit Pearl Harbor and the National Memorial Cemetery…. Kahului, Maui  Hawaii's second most popular island. Explore the fascinating history of the town of Lahaina. Or just go to the pristine beach, or if you are into golf…there are a few of the world's most beautiful golf courses Kona, Hawaii   Kona offers the quintessential Hawaii experience. Sunny, warm weather and crystal blue waters you can partake in a variety of surfside fun. Snorkel amongst a kaleidoscope of tropical marine life. Take a surfing lesson, a kayaking trip or head out to deeper waters for some deep-sea fishing. Oh yeah   (wait for it) .... Kona Coffee Nawawi, Kauai  Named after the Weiwei trees, which once lined its picturesque harbor, this lovely port of Kauai is your gateway to what many believe to be Hawaii's most beautiful island. On "The Garden Island," nature is truly the star, from the dramatic mountains of Kokee to the cool rainforests of Heena. And the tradition of the luau adds lively entertainment unique to Hawaii.  Promote your business now on Collage Travel Radio… email Zimmermanpromotions@msn.com  and say …I want to advertise on Collage Travel Radio and someone will get back to you and let you know how.  No obligation to find out how…all quotes are free….Follow and like me on Facebook.  Do you have a favorite location…or an interesting travel tip…? let me know at zee@zeemichaelsontravel.com  and you may just hear your name and tip talked about over the air.

Ai Weiwei es quizá la figura más célebre del arte contemporáneo internacional actual. En sus esculturas e instalaciones confluyen con potencia y lirismo el artista y el activista, sus convicciones políticas y su sensibilidad expresiva, la tradición china y los conflictos de la modernidad. Y en su vida, se trenza la arrolladora transformación de su país durante el último siglo. Su padre fue uno de los grandes poetas chinos del siglo XX, primero amigo de Mao Tse Tung y luego enviado junto a su familia a «la pequeña Siberia» a limpiar letrinas. Su infancia transcurrió en el exilio. Su formación en Estados Unidos lo hizo amigo de Allen Ginsberg y fue iluminado por la figura de Andy Warhol. Su obra recorrió los museos del mundo. Y en 2011, su tenebrosa detención secreta durante 81 días por parte del gobierno chino volvió su figura tan emblemática como su obra. Por eso, la publicación de sus memorias («1000 años de alegrías y penas», Debate) se volvieron todo un acontecimiento. Miguel Ángel Cajigal Vera (@elbarroquista) explica por qué sus páginas son un viaje extraordinario en el que la vida de Weiwei y la de su país se trenzan de manera tan fascinante como inescapable.Encuentra este y otros artículos en http://revistalengua.comTexto narrado por Antonio Martínez Asensio.Crédito Imagen ilustrativa: Getty Images. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Le célèbre dissident chinois Ai Weiwei est exposé en Autriche pour une grande rétrospective intitulée “en quête d'humanité”. Le photographe, plasticien et architecte s'inquiète de la fragilité des démocraties occidentales face à la guerre en Ukraine.  Sur le terrain : Celine Jankowiak et Jastinder Khera. Récit : Camille Kauffmann. Sur le fil est le podcast quotidien de l'AFP. Envoyez-nous vos histoires et vos commentaires : podcast@afp.com. Abonnez-vous, laissez-nous des étoiles, des commentaires, et parlez de nous autour de vous.

Considering a change in employment? Apple/China/Green Army/Bitcoin seizure and Cybersecurity Jobs! Apple has upended a lot of industries over the years, and it is about to upend yet another one. Square is a company that has been making a lot of money and its run by same guy that ran Twitter. You know that Rasputen-looking guy? What's Apple doing to the finance industry? [Following is an automated transcript] This is a real big deal. Apple has been for a long time upending industries. [00:00:23] You might remember, of course, the music player. In fact, I still have an old MP3 player. You can't really see it very well from this angle, but it was right over there. And then. And it was a five gigabyte player. Just amazing thing was huge. It was actually designed by digital equipment corporation, licensed by this other manufacturer, put them together. [00:00:44] Great audio quality. They had these little costs, headphones that came along. I loved the thing. Absolutely loved it. And apple came along, they weren't the first and they introduced their own MP3 player. That was called an iPod. And it did very well. It just slaughtered everybody else. You might remember the Microsoft came out with their zoon and many others came out with their own little MP3 players. [00:01:12] No, nobody could touch our friends over at apple with their iPod. And then what happened? Around 2010, think for a minute. What new product did apple introduce around 2010? Of course it was this right. It was the I phone now the iPhone cut dramatically into Apple's market and for a good reason. It was a phone. [00:01:38] It was a smart phone. It could play all of your music. I still have and still use 120 gigabyte. I iPod. At the kind of the classic I think is what they had called it. And 120, it was just amazing. Just that much music. Of course, me, I have a lot of lectures, a lot of audio books and other things I listened to on that, on those iPods and what happened. [00:02:05] Of course. Now you can get these I-phones with a terabyte of memory in them, just incredible amount of space. And that's a pretty good thing, frankly, because you can store everything. But at the same time, our networks are getting faster. Aren't they? So our networks, like what we have for our cellular phones and stuff are faster than they have ever been. [00:02:29] So you don't really need as much storage do you, as you used to have. On your phone or your iPod or your MP3 player. So it's an interesting game. How much space do you need? And I'm asked that all of the time and the newest iPhone is coming out, have a lot more memory. I think they have eight gigabytes of Ram in them. [00:02:48] And as I said, a terabyte of storage. But what apple was doing is saying, Hey, we own this iPod market, the MP3 player market. And of course it's more than just MP3s, lot of other formats out there for the music or audio books, but they owned it. But they knew that if they were going to survive in the industry, they had to do something else. [00:03:13] Came out with a product that competed with their award winning and just top of the line product, the iPhone and your iPhone works every bit as well as an iPod ever did. And of course ever so much better because now you don't have to download the music on your iPhone to listen to it, to you. You can stream it over the internet, over wifi, right over the cellular data connection, those things we've gotten fast. [00:03:38] Two great option for. What Apple's doing now is saying we need to append another market. Have you ever had, again, like you, you got your phone, right? And let's say you're a small merchant, maybe your coffee shop, or maybe you're even smaller. Maybe you're just out at a flea market selling stuff that you might want to peddle. [00:03:59] You have to get an, a credit card. Don't you. And back in the day that credit card reader would plug right into the headphone Jack and with a headphone Jack, you'd be able to go online. No problem. Life is good. And once you're online, then you can take the credit. Now you didn't just have to go online with your iPhone, but you had to be able to go on line with your phone and the reader, because when they got rid of that wonderful little headphone port, you now had to use Bluetooth, didn't you and you still. [00:04:37] So you get that reader from square or that reader from PayPal or somewhere else it's acting as your merchant account. And that reader then uses Bluetooth to talk to the phone and then it can read the credit card or the chip. And of course, with the chip it's by directional, it has to get the information to, and from that trip, And then you've got the credit card that you can process all well, and good. [00:05:04] We're all happy about that, but here's your next problem? Bluetooth. Isn't always working. That reader has to be charged. Did you charge it before you brought it before you started using it? So apple said wait a minute. In our I-phones we have built in a few different things. Do you ever used apple pay? [00:05:25] It's probably the safest way to pay online bar? None. It doesn't actually give the merchant the credit card. And it gives them a code that they can read Dean in order to go ahead and get the money from the transaction so that transaction can then be redeemed by the merchant. And that's all stuff handled by your merchant account. [00:05:48] You don't have to worry about it makes life. However now what they've done is they've said let's reverse this. You can use your iPhone with apple pay in order to pay for things. And it has, what's called near field technology in it that allows it to act like those tap and go credit cards I've ever used. [00:06:08] One of those where you can just tap it and it makes the transaction happen. Pretty simple. So it has that in there, but it also has the ability. To read those tap and go transactions. So it's going to be interesting to see exactly what happens here. This is a very big industry. There is a whole lot of money in it, and there's an article this week from our friends over in ink magazine. [00:06:36] I got up on my screen for those who are watching a video here on rumble or YouTube. And it's talking about this feature that they introduced quite quietly. Because this new capability is going to change things. Now you are still going to have your merchant account. So you still might have to have a Stripe or a PayPal or direct merchant account with your bank. [00:07:02] But this is allowing contactless credit and debit cards and other digital wallets to be able to be read from any one's iPhone, which is really quite. Now there's things like Venmo and others out there that people use. My kids use a lot more than I do, but they use it to send money back and forth to each other. [00:07:23] It's a pretty good little thing that they've got going, but with something like this, you wouldn't even need to use a Venmo. So those are the guys that are going to get really nailed by it. And Stripe really is phenomenal. It's so easy to use and I use it as well. I use. For my courses. If you sign up, for course, to almost always going through Stripe, I know there's some other alternatives out there right now that are a little more friendly to the non-mainstream, but I haven't been able to integrate those yet in Vermont payment processors, but there's still going to need it. [00:08:01] You can use cash app, Venmo. It's not going to stop you from doing any of that, but it does stop you from having to have another. Piece of equipment with you, which is just something else to go bad, or dig to have, get dirty to, to not be able to work for you. So we'll see what happens. This is cutting out. [00:08:22] These companies like square. They'll no longer be able to. Have from the front to the back, they'll still have the back, frankly, but they'd be able to accept payments from pretty much anything that's contactless, which is I think a very good deal. We'll see what happens. But again, this is not apple going after Apple's existing customer base, like it did with the I Paul. [00:08:50] Transition to the I phone. This is apple going after another piece of the retail space. And remember what I said earlier, it's not even just that app. Has the ability to enter market, but we've seen time and again, where apple enters a market that's already established. It's not quite mature, right? You haven't had all of those acquisitions going where the companies are buying each other up, but it is going to make a huge difference because again, apple up. [00:09:23] And apple has ties in to a couple of banks that they use for processing their apple cards. Think it's Goldman Sachs, and they could potentially provide you with the merchant account stuff on the backend. So I think that's pretty cool. And it's going to allow us all to have a cashless. The yeah, if this was a political show, that's probably what we'd be talking about. [00:09:50] Wouldn't it? Because there's certain problems with doing that as well. Hey, I want to invite everybody to take a few minutes right now. I am making some changes. I've been working on some of these for weeks, but I've got a lot of clients. I've got two. Take care of first, right? I've been doing a lot of CSO work, CIS, so chief information security officer, just on a fractional or part-time basis as a contractor for a few different companies to try and keep them up-to-date with all of the latest in technology. [00:10:22] So it's been really fun, but I haven't been able to do everything I want to do yet on the radio show. So my wife and I are reaching into our pockets and we're going to be hopefully pulling out somebody to help us with some of this, because what I want to do is send. My show notes to you guys every week. [00:10:41] So you can see what I'm talking about. You have the direct links, as well as my newsletter, and I want to start doing my Wednesday wisdoms trainings more regularly. It's really hit or miss. So trying to do all of that, and I'd really appreciate it. If you would go right now to Craig peterson.com and make sure you sign up right there for my email list, Craig peterson.com. [00:11:07] Get it. All right. [00:11:10] We've been very worried about China for quite a few years, for more than one reason. But one of the biggest is they have dominated some of the most critical markets in the world, including some of these mineral resources that we need. [00:11:27] China has been a big worry for many countries around the world. [00:11:32] For a long time, I met with the ambassador from a couple of these African countries and had a great little chat about what was going on there. They wanted to become this one country in particular, the data processing center. For Africa and Africa, of course, very big country or continent, I should say with a lot of countries and a lot of financial transactions. [00:12:01] And they figured what we need is a good data center. We need data lines coming in. And so they got some of those data lines and they got the data center. The data center provided by our friends in China. And so this data center was being used for a few different things, but it sure was not being used for these financial transactions. [00:12:27] So they wanted it to be used for because China. Provided the equipment. And we know from a lot of articles, a lot of research and from the federal government, the China has been spying on us. And I have seen it personally with some of these DOD sub subcontractors. In other words, it's not necessarily directly contracting with the department of defense, but providing parts and things via subcontractor relationships. [00:12:59] And China is a problem. So what do they do? How is this small African countries supposed to become the data processing country for all of Africa, with Chinese equipment? How could they possibly do it without Chinese equipment? And that's what the ambassador was telling. We need this equipment this is it. [00:13:19] They had Chinese routers, switches processors. They had racks of equipment set up in virtual environments and they were all set to go. China's been doing similar things in other parts of the world where they come in, they might build a port for instance, which has happened many times, one in Indonesia, particularly I'm thinking of, and they financed the port. [00:13:45] If you don't make the payment on that data center or the payment on the port or the payment on the railroad system, et cetera, that China has installed in your country, guess what's in that contract, you forfeit them. So the data center now becomes absolutely. China's not just a lean on it, not just a lease from China. [00:14:11] It is China's data center. That port is China's port. In fact, they own the largest port. Now I think in all of Indonesia, maybe the whole Pacific rim over there, I'm not sure, but that's what they've been doing. Same thing with railroads, et cetera, et cetera. So China really has a lot of companies and countries over the. [00:14:35] That's something we didn't want to have happen here in president Trump, you might remember was very adamant about it. He did a whole lot of work to make sure that none of the Chinese interests would really be able to take over and control our us interest. It makes sense to me. So what has China been doing to us? [00:14:58] We know about the steel and remember China was dumping cheap steel into the us and world markets that hurts us. We have a need to make things here. If we ever haven't forbid got into a war. And we needed ships or boats or planes, or we needed armaments of some sort or another. We need to be able to make them in the United States or in an allied country. [00:15:29] You remember how many problems that Britain had during the war? Trying to ship stuff over. I have two kids that were merchant Mariners and the U S merchant Marine academy is the only. Of the military academies, that flies battle standards because they lost cadets who were there at the school during warfare. [00:15:53] Okay. It's a bad thing. We don't want that to happen. So not having to rely on other countries actually ends up being a bit of a positive thing, depending on what it is. China's sent us things like dog food, that's contaminated, baby food contaminated. Even those, green recyclable bags, people take to the grocery store. [00:16:16] Yeah, contaminated with lead. It goes on and on. They also had control of 99% of certain precious metals that are needed for some of our key manufacturing here in the U S so we put tariffs on China for steel. We did the same thing in 2021. In fact, they put a tariff of 23% in 2021 to protect the steel manufacturers here in the U S. [00:16:45] From these cheap Chinese imports, not just cheap, but low quality steel Weiwei, you know about them. They owned the smartphone business in many parts of the world. In fact, here in the United States, you could get cheap Walway phones. Now, Weiwei of course, if much about Canadian history, know about Northern telecomm, who did a little. [00:17:10] Pioneering in the whole phone business for many decades and the allegations. And there's some proof that I've seen that leads me to believe that these allegations are correct. Are that while always stolen? Northern telecoms designs, its plans, et cetera, and put all of that together to make Walway. [00:17:32] So they steal the plans, they steal the engineering, they steal the research and development, the intellectual property. They then start making it, of course, without having to worry about the investments into R and D and developing products. Now they just stole them and then they flood the markets worldwide with. [00:17:52] Equipment paid and manufactured in some cases by slave labor in almost every case by substantially low wages and. They then control of the market. So we said no way to Walway and that was something president Trump started. It's actually a really good thing. And Google apps are now no longer allowed on Huawei phones. [00:18:19] So China used to have a 99%, almost total monopoly on rare earth metals. I'm going to bring this article up on the screen from our friends over at American. But now they have fallen to less than 60% monopoly. So they've been trying to stop shipments of rare earth metals to countries all over the world to drive up the prices. [00:18:45] They did the same thing here to Japan because of the contesting in the south China sea of some of these islands of some of these mineral rights. But since then in the last decade, rare earth metal. Are being mined. In other parts of the world, we talked here about what California is doing. California is now going to be mining lithium and some of these other rare earth metals that we need to make batteries. [00:19:15] We need to make processes. We need to make cars. We need to make light bulbs right on. And. They used to have a near monopoly on foreign off shore investment because companies were going to China like crazy, because the cheap wages over there, 1.4 billion consumers has been leading companies that make movies like Disney to go over to China. [00:19:39] But things have really stopped in some of these growth areas for China. And in fact, have reversed in a very big way. They're clamped down on business, censoring of wealthy capitalists food, shortages, growth, centralized government corruption. Gross, excuse me, corruption, mismanagement, stagflation, plunging birth rate, all resulted in investments and opportunities. [00:20:04] Fleeing China. Great article in American thinker. Keep an eye out for it in the newsletter this week and stick around. But first check out Craig peterson.com. Make sure you're on my email list. And if you like watching video, Hey, I'd like to invite you to watch me and follow me on YouTube and rumble. [00:20:27] This is straight out of the, what were you thinking department? In fact, what are you thinking? Yeah, the us army is planning on going green. Yeah. They want electric vehicles in war. [00:20:44] This is a plan that you just are going to have to shake your head at a, again, it's a little bit of idiocy, but before we talk specifically about the plan, I want to talk about something related. [00:20:59] Now, remember this plan is from the U S army and they want some goals read Sean on climate change and electric vehicles here over the next 20, 30 years. So let's look at the science behind what they're talking about, and I'm going to show you the actual statement that came out from the military. And one of president Biden's appointees is just nuts, absolutely nuts, but I'm going to back up a little. [00:21:34] For those of you who are watching along at home. Let me pull this up for you. This is from slash. And it's quoting a report over on the wall street journal and pulling some stuff together. But what they're doing in this particular article is talking about how our friends who have come up with these super computer designed. [00:22:02] To model our weather have been be fuddled they've reworked 1.2 million lines of computer code in order to compensate for something that I don't know about you, but if I was writing the code, I probably would have compensated for it in the first place cloud. Clouds. Yeah. Yeah. It turns out this is just to me, absolutely boggling the mind, that great glowing orb that appears in the sky. [00:22:35] From time to time. Yeah. I'll give or take half of the day. That thing called the sun apparently has something to do with the earth warming up. And do you know what else does, the clouds that are up in the sky? Those clouds can reflect the sun's heat and they can also hold heat in on the ground side, who would have thought. [00:23:01] So all of these models that they've been using, cause remember by now, as of more than a decade ago, New York Manhattan is underwater. Remember? Yeah. Al gore with his scientific moon movie at this science. Is just cited. It's proven and Florida by now was underwater. And so as Manhattan, and of course neither is true because they had no idea what they were talking about. [00:23:27] This article in the wall street journal, Totally baffles me. And I'm just showing you the excerpt from slash.here on the screen because the wall street journal was paid. And I don't want to have to push you guys to paid stuff if I can avoid it. But they thought it was really strange cause they updated the simulation in 2018 and in 2018 it turned out that the earth was. [00:23:55] Way more sensitive to greenhouse gases than they thought. And, oh man, they had to think about that because, in Boulder, the national center for atmospheric research they said if that number was correct, that would be really bad news. Yeah. And at least 20 older climate models disagreed with the new one, but they were simpler and this new one is an open source model. [00:24:20] So anybody can look at the code and kind of figure it out. So I, then what ended up happening is. More than a dozen other models were released and it turns out wait a minute, now they're agreeing with us. Do you remember that spaghetti code that predicted the COVID 19 was going to kill? [00:24:40] It was a two and a half million people in the United States. Of course didn't get anywhere near. Close to that, because the way we kept the stats, right? W co dine with COVID versus because of COVID right. Remember that whole controversy. It turns out that the scientists concluded that their new calculations have been thrown off kilter by the physics of clouds in a warming world, which may amplify or. [00:25:08] Climate change. Isn't that what I had just said, that Kyle taken, they can block the sun and they can also keep heat in. A night with lots of moisture in the air, whether it's humidity or cloud is going to stay warmer than a night where there's no clouds. These are experts. So the fact that they left out clouds and the effect they might have, I must make a whole lot of sense, because this is a science and the science has settled. [00:25:34] Yeah. So Andrew Gettleman now physicist there in Boulder said that the old way is just wrong. We know that I think our higher sensitivity is wrong to it. It's probably a consequence of other things we did by making clouds better and more realistic to solve one problem and create another I, again, I got to point out science, mind. [00:25:59] Science is not settled on pretty much anything and it never has been. And until we are all knowing, it never will be. So keep that in mind and quit having your heads just be so inflated that you think that you're absolutely right, because I'm not absolutely right. They're not absolutely right. No, one's absolutely right. [00:26:23] So let's get into the army here. This is just so exciting. Cause Christine wor Muth is the secretary of the army now, and the army is going to lead by example. And we put this up on the screen. I just realized that I'll have this up on the screen for you guys. We will use our buying power to drive change in the industry and leverage best practices from. [00:26:47] Sources. There's another great quote here from the secretary of defense. W we face all kinds of threats in our line of work yet. Yeah. Secretary of defense army. Yeah. Okay. But a few of the threats truly deserve to be called existential. The climate crisis does climate change is making the world more unsafe and we need to act right. [00:27:14] That's what she's saying, that this thing goes on for pages, what the goals are. So I decided, okay, Craig, let's have a look at this. I'm going to do a search in this PDF for the word risk. What are the risks? If we're going to be messing with the military, with the electric vehicles, because in the middle of a war zone, it's great. [00:27:33] You just, you stop, you plug your electric vehicle and let it charge for half an hour. And then you're off and running. And particularly where tanks are right. Where we're trying to protect our personnel. Maybe have an offensive. They'll wait while we charge our tanks, right? Oh and a little tiny solar cell, or we cover it with solar cells. [00:27:51] That's going to be enough to charge it if we leave it sitting there for a week. So we're okay. So what are the risks associated with us being idiots and moving towards an electric army? Okay, so risks here. Okay. So this is a risk to the climate. This is climate risks. Oh, this is red mitigating climate risks, assertion of climate change risks impacting the army at all levels from how and where our units operate and train to how to service as a whole. [00:28:21] Okay. So that's risks of when the climate changes, as we know it will, because those guys wrote 1.2 million new lines of code. Okay. So we know it's going to change. Okay. So let me see risks, climate change, imposes, climate threats, and risks. Address the risks associated with these. Let's see here. [00:28:43] What else do we got? Climate change risks. Climate change risks. Oh, they're going to install micro grids on every installation. Okay. Climate change risks. This is nuts. And the New York post has a great article on this insanity. Oh my gosh. What are we going to do with these. Yeah, our military, we're going to stop and charge our vehicles. [00:29:10] Yeah. All right, everybody stick around and visit online. Craig Peter sohn.com. I'll keep you up to date. [00:29:24] We're going to talk about this Bitcoin laundering case that really turned the internet upside down. Cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin, how safe is it? How secure is it really? And what happened here? Because this Bonnie and Clyde failed. [00:29:41] This is an article from the New York times. [00:29:44] Now I know I don't like to, you guys know this show you stuff that you have to pay to go to a paid site and particularly something like the New York times. It's amazing to me how they have some really great journalists that do a good job on some of these stories. And then they just totally go political on so many of the other stories, and I'm not talking about the editorial page, knock yourself out. [00:30:11] But anyways, this is a fascinating story to me because so many of us think that using Bitcoin is going to be safe after. Cryptocurrency. And crypto means cryptography and cryptography means we're keeping ourselves safer. Isn't it? Isn't that? How that's all supposed to work kind of the bottom line while in reality, it doesn't always work out that way. [00:30:40] And when it comes to cryptocurrency, it definitely does. And I want to explain a little bit about cryptocurrency for people, if you don't understand it very well, just putting the very, very, basically the way it works is there are ledgers, just like the old ledgers you used to see at the banks or businesses, those big. [00:31:02] And they'd maybe do double entry ledgers, or maybe some other types. Nowadays. Of course, all of this stuff has done on computers, but the idea is you walk into your bank and you say, I want a hundred dollars from my account. So the bank opens up its ledgers and sees, okay. Your account has X dollars in it. [00:31:23] They give you a hundred dollars in that ledger. Now they marked down that your account now is a hundred dollars less because you just would do a hundred bucks. That's the simple way it works with the bank. It's actually very similar with the script old currencies, but what happens in cryptocurrencies is you're not dealing with one institution. [00:31:46] So it isn't just your retirement plan that fidelity friends. With it, when it comes to cryptocurrencies, these ledgers are maintained by hundreds of different businesses and people around the world. Thousands depends on the cryptocurrency itself. And the idea is when you go and you want to take your a hundred dollars for instance, from the bank, they look it up in their one ledger in that ledger is assumed to be correct. [00:32:15] But when it comes to cryptocurrencies, there have to be the majority of ledgers that agree about how much money. And those ledgers are all public ledgers. So it's like having a Swiss bank account in that your account is represented by a number that's actually where the cryptography comes in and the keys, public keys and everything else. [00:32:40] But your account is essentially represented by a number. So if you want to pay the a hundred dollars to. In cryptocurrency. So it's probably some fraction of some cryptocurrency what's going to happen is you are going to have half of the ledgers for that particular cryptocurrency agree that you're transferring a hundred dollars. [00:33:07] From account number 1, 2, 3, 4 to someone else's account, which is 5, 6, 7, 8, just as an example. Very simplified example. So now what happens is the people who are running the ledger that you're using the main ledger, check the other ledgers and push your transaction onto the ledgers. That's why it takes a while for cryptocurrency transactions to occur. [00:33:32] Because it has to push out to these ledgers. Half of them have to agree in order for it to be a reasonable and accepted transactions. That make sense. Good. So what we have here now because of public ledgers is public information. The amount of money you have in that number to count can be seen by anyone who cares to look. [00:34:00] It's really that simple. Anybody can see it. So why are people thinking that it's crypto it's safe? It can't be taken by the government or bad guys, et cetera. Those concepts are all insane. The. Sort of privacy or security you have is related to the ledger. So the security is half of the ledgers have to agree. [00:34:23] So someone hacks one ledger, that's not enough to get control of all of your cryptocurrency or whatever it might. If someone hacks your wallet, that's a different story entirely. Okay. But that's not what we're talking about right now, but everybody can see that you have a hundred dollars in account. [00:34:43] Number 1, 2, 3, 4, the pro the trick is, and the problem for law enforcement, they don't necessarily know who owns account 1, 2, 3. So what law enforcement does in order to get money back or to arrest people is they watch these accounts. So in this particular case, there's Bonnie and Clyde, if you will hack a cryptocurrency exchange. [00:35:09] So this is again, one of these ledgers sites and they'll often exchange us dollars for various cryptocurrencies. Back in 2016, Bitfinex was the name of it. And they store $71 million in Bitcoin from effectively wallets are there on that site. But because these trades are publicly. People on the internet knew that it happened. [00:35:39] In fact, people on the internet were watching that wallet waiting for money to move. And this couple that's alleged to have stolen it's Iliya Lichtenstein and Heather Morgan, that account could, they could see that $71 million was in it. But over time, six years later, the value of Bitcoin had gone up substantially. [00:36:06] And today is worth about $4 billion. Isn't that just amazing and a lot of money. So they moved it to another account and that's when the got in trouble. So if you have a Swiss bank account, 1, 2, 3, 4, and you transfer money to someone else that I know, I now can trace that account. I say, oh, I know who has that. [00:36:35] Yeah, that's 71 million worth of Bitcoin. Back in the day, that's now worth 4 billion was in this account and they just bought themselves a new Porsche cayenne at this dealership. And all law enforcement has to do is knock at the dealership, say who was it? And now they know who the people are, but in this particular case, The bad guys had left that money in that Bitcoin account, but that money did get transferred, but guess what? [00:37:05] It wasn't them, people on the internet were thinking that the hackers had emerged that they were transferring the money to other Bitcoin accounts, which you see fairly frequently for these illegal transactions, but it wasn't the hackers who move that stolen. Bitcoin. This is again from the New York times, it was the government which had seized it as part of investigation into two New York city entrepreneurs, one with a little known Russian emigre and techie investor who had just named the other, his wife, an American businesswoman, and would be social media influencer with an alter ego. [00:37:44] Is this a terrible rapper named razzle con. Yeah, amazing. You can't make this stuff up. Can you, so they're charged with conspiracy to launder billions of dollars in Bitcoin. Ilya is 34 and Heather's 31 accused of siphoned off chunks of the currency, trying to hide it in this complex network of digital wallets and personas. [00:38:07] And if they're convicted of it and a second. Spare seat count that has been put against them. They could be facing up to 25 years in prison. So as is always the case, oh, you asked the neighbor, he was a good boy. He was a very good boy. I love that. How we are, but he's that little bit all over the. [00:38:26] But the couple's neighbors said they're goofy, normal types of people never expected that. But these are part of a real change that we've been seeing over the last few years into investigations in the cryptocurrency field. Now, remember crypto isn't necessarily the best thing. [00:38:44] Own any, never have owned any. I played around with some mining stuff at one point, just on my regular computer to see what it was all about, but it is not anything that's worth anything to anyone. Frankly, what I did now, a lot of people have been buying it. Of course, part of the problem with it is in order for it to be truly useful, you have to convert it back into something like a us dollar or maybe some other type of currency. [00:39:11] And that's often when people get caught and nowadays on the tax forms, it even asked you about any sort of crypto holdings that you might have. So remember all of that. They don't know, by the way, this is again from the article, the New York times, if they were directly involved in this breach all those years ago, but this is really crypto culture and it really is the fringe. [00:39:40] And they went crazy online and started looking at the digital trail. Her videos suddenly shared widely. Yeah. They've become infamous, is the right way to put all of that. Hey, if you like the show, I would really encourage you to follow me. You can follow, listen to my podcast on tune in on any of the major, in fact stream. [00:40:09] Platforms out there SoundCloud you'll find me on apple, et cetera. And I just started videotaping the shows last week. And this week I've done little things before, but now I'm trying to do the whole. So you can watch me on the show as I'm recording it live and see a little bit behind the scenes, which I've always liked. [00:40:35] I've been watching how we Carr and grace Curley do their show. And I thought, it's well worth it this week. I did a little bit of editing on. Cut out some of the in between, cause I had some longer coffee and fit and had to stretch my legs a couple of times, but you get to see the whole thing behind the scenes. [00:40:54] And if you sign up for my newsletter, you're going to get my weekly trainings. You're going to find out about boot camps I'm doing and other things, but you have to. Go to Craig Peter sawn.com. You'll see a right there on any page, frankly, to scroll down a little bit. It'll pop up right at the top of the page. [00:41:14] Put in your name and email address, and I'm going to send you a few special reports, including my report on passwords. Craig peterson.com. [00:41:25] You obviously know about the great resignation. It has been a big problem for a lot of companies out there. Great. For job seekers. Great for you. If you're trying to maybe get a raise, et cetera, especially if you're in the tech industry. [00:41:42] This great resignation thing, man. Has it hit companies? And one of the biggest problems companies are having is with tech workers. [00:41:55] You might remember back in the day, we had a big shortage of some of the cybersecurity people, right? Where we couldn't find them. There were numbers saying that there's like a million and a half or more open jobs for cybersecurity people. Now I did a little investigation into that number because it sounded high to me. [00:42:18] Cause I, I was coding it. It was a number that came from some pretty reasonable sources. But I think this is one of those things where you had one news source stating it and then all of a sudden other people started quoting it. I don't think it was really a million and a half. And what I found was that the people that had put that number together were looking at it and saying, if you have a business. [00:42:46] Who you should, you have working for you when it comes to cybersecurity? So there's like the CSO, the chief information security officer, which is something I do on a fractional basis for businesses all of the time, helping them to up their security. So you had to have a CSO, you needed to have a team. [00:43:06] Looking at the logs that was paying attention to the networks. If something happened, they would know when they did investigate and maybe they would do patching close bugs. Which is a different person. One is the network operation center people. And if you're going to have a 24 7 network operation center, that means you need at least four people probably. [00:43:30] And so the added all of this stuff up right there, the desktop people that are making sure the end points are protected and kept up to date and upgraded. That's how they came up with that, one and a half, 2 million open jobs in the us for technology. The reality was different obviously. [00:43:50] And now with the great resignation where all of these people are. Out of the jobs. And part of the problem was already the beginning of the lockdowns. They had people suspended. They laid them off or they said, okay maybe we'll have you back. It's only two weeks to flatten the curve. [00:44:11] So yeah, take a couple of weeks off. And so that gave people the opportunity over that. Period, which actually was two years, right? A minute. Maybe it's just my imagination. I'm not sure. But did that whole flatten the curve period that lasted for two years, people said I don't like this job because Frank. [00:44:32] There is very few jobs. There are very few jobs that are as stressful as the cyber security jobs, because you're dealing all of the time with the senior executives saying I'm not going to double log in. I'm not going to carry a token around with me. I'm not going to have my screen time out after. [00:44:55] Dean minutes or five minutes? No, it has to be half an hour and I just can't get my work done otherwise. So you're fighting with senior management who approved the budget in the first place, to at least do the minimal stuff. You're fighting with senior management to. The budget you need in order to keep the company safe. [00:45:15] Because nowadays, if you're not keeping a company safe, you can go out of business like that, lose your reputation, lose your intellectual property. I've seen it before with companies, small companies, bigger companies. You've got to make sure all of your backups are in place there. You're using. 3, 2, 1 strategy nowadays, it's more of a 4, 3, 2, 2 1, 1 zeros hero strategy. [00:45:40] I'll have to do a webinar on that one or a little meeting. We'll get together and talk about it. But again, if you're interested in that you gotta go to my website and stamped for the email list. Craig peterson.com. Just trying to figure it all out is difficult. And then you get all of these false alerts from software and you got to figure out, was this a legitimate alert or was this a false alert? [00:46:04] What should I do about this? Or should I do about that? Who's really trying to break in. Why are they trying to break in? All of that sort of stuff gets to be difficult. So it's a stressful job. So a lot of people that were in cyber security at the beginning of the lockdown, I said I got to find something better. [00:46:21] I know a couple of listeners who decided at the age of 55 to 60 in both cases that they would go change their careers had enough of what they were doing and we're going to go and do cybersecurity, took some of these classes, got the basics together and found jobs. In cybersecurity now they're not going to be experts, but they certainly knew more than the other people at the business, including the I T directors. [00:46:53] And I say that with air quotes. So they both changed jobs during the. Now that's an interesting thing to me because I, and I'm not pointing my finger at either one of these guys, but the number one thing you have, if you are in cybersecurity, if you are a CSO is the top drawer of your desk. [00:47:14] Assuming you have a desk, there's two things. One is your resume. And the other is your resignation letter because. Ultimately any business can be hacked. Now, I don't want people to say I'm throwing my hands up because it doesn't matter. Any business can be hacked. I'm not going to deal with this, right? [00:47:31] Why would I spend any money on it all because you can control. Likely you are to be hacked and you can get like a 98 to a hundred percent effectiveness depending on how you measure things. And if something does happen, what matters is, how can you recover? So if you look at things like the sniffs to cybersecurity framework, you'll see, there's all kinds of provisions in there to make sure the business survives a hack. [00:48:01] Okay. Stuff you needed to do stuff you need to be concerned about. But the whole cyber security side of the business is. Still in high demand because businesses more and more are realizing they can't just get by with running antivirus software anymore. You can't just say, oh I've got wonderful. [00:48:24] A windows defender on my PC and that's working great. I don't need anything else. Now you have to have a much more advanced system. There's no two ways about it. So what we're finding is people in the it business right now can find a job if they were. Great article here. Let me show you a little bit. [00:48:45] If you're watching, you'll see this on the screen. Two articles this week that I thought were really great, and I want to run through a little bit, but one is from. Wired magazine. That's a magazine I've subscribed to for a long time. They got some crazy ideas, but they got some good stuff, dude. And it's talking about the shortage of qualified workers and the competition. [00:49:11] It's fascinating. And then another one here, I'll show you from the New York times magazine. And it's talking about the recruiters who are trying to recruit in the tech space. Now, in both of these cases, what we're talking about are job vacancies that are open in a minimum, hundreds of thousands in the U S right. [00:49:36] Yeah, it's hard to tell, but what you can tell and what we are seeing is that these are recruiters who used to be stocked quite literally, sometimes by people looking for a job are now lucky. If they get a return, email, or phone, That's how bad it's gotten for them. And the story goes through this one recruiters kind of background saying, yeah I had this one person who's looking for a job and they stalked me, found my picture on LinkedIn and then stood outside the building, waiting for me to come out and then basically shoved the resume in my face and talked me up. [00:50:21] Another one saying I had mentioned on the phone that I really liked tophi what shows up the next morning, this beautiful handmade toffee perfectly wrapped. So it has gone in just a few years from that where people will do anything in order to try and get a hold of the hiring manager, to where it is today, where people are just saying. [00:50:44] Forget about it, it just isn't worth my time. The other thing that the recruiters are fine. Is that people when, if they do get ahold of them are saying basically, Hey, I'm just burned out. No, I don't think I have the energy anymore to do this, which is an interesting response. People because of the lock down have just had their. [00:51:10] Their excitement, squashed, and ability to look forward to what my career is going to be if you're younger and if you're older, like I am, you're looking at it saying I've still got a lot of good years left and I'd love to do this and have my my wisdom, if you will, from all of these decades in the it world and in cybersecurity put to good use, which is why I said I'm doing the fractional. [00:51:36] Chief information security officer for businesses. But what we are finding is. People can get the jobs, even people who are already retired to semi retired. I read another article this week that I thought was rather interesting. And we'll talk about that a bit when we get back, because it's going to take a few, but. [00:51:59] The resume side of things. No, we heard the T of course the tophi trick the standing outside and stocking them tricky, et cetera. So what is happening right now? When you want a job, then maybe you've been in the market before for a lot of years and you're competing against the kids that are out there. [00:52:21] Things have changed stick around and visit me online. Craig Peterson dot. [00:52:28] We're going to finish up our discussion about jobs and open it, positions it in general. And also going to talk about some of the tips for older employees on the resume. I had a bit of a shocker this week.. [00:52:44] This article, and I'm going to pull up on my screen for those who are watching online is I think fascinating. [00:52:51] This is from the New York times, and it's talking about recruiters and it's from a recruiter's perspective, Frank. And it's saying here, this is by the way, the one that had that story about the lady that used to be just hunted down all of the time, but the same recruiters are in such a demand that they too are scarce, which means their fees have never been here. [00:53:17] In house tech recruiter, salaries are up about 30% organizations looking for help in cloud and cybersecurity positions have increased fees. They're offering two recruiting services to as high as 45% of the first year salary. Isn't that something that's a Robert half. I should have them on the show. They have been on a few times in the past, this particular lady who left her job, where she was always being courted and started freelance recruiting before the lockdown back in 2018. [00:53:55] But there are big challenges are frankly going beyond finding just regular humans. The New York times says is that people are talking to potential hires. The recruiters have a big picture view of just how quickly the market is moving. And they've got to course take that and translate it into something that hiring managers would understand. [00:54:17] And that's a fine line. Between, Hey, I'm trying to help you out here. You really should pay attention. And this is a hard sell right solely. It's a really interesting line. And we're also finding that of course of the candidates themselves are getting a lot of money. Salaries are way. Pop and for a good reason, people are in demand, especially if you have the skills. [00:54:44] And so many people just don't want to work anymore. I have a couple of ways. I've looked at this over the years. I have what I call the McDonald's test. I don't think I've been to McDonald's in more than a year and I was on a road trip at the time, but it's how good is the service at McDonald's? [00:55:02] Because if typically the service at whatever retail store you go to is pretty good. It usually means, wow. People are looking for jobs and it's hard to find a job. So you've got basically overqualified people working there on the other end. People who are working in the customer service retail space, which unfortunately, that's your face? That's your company. The people that answer the phone or the talk to your customers, those are the people who are out front. So in dealing with those people, w are they the best or the worst? If there are a lot of open positions while typically, and I hate to say this, but typically they're not your best employees. [00:55:49] So that's kinda my McDonald's test. Did I get great service at McDonald's or Wendy's or burger king or at the mall? Or did I not get great service? And right now, We're not getting great service, any of those sorts of places. It's actually been more than a little frustrating. And sometimes even at the local coffee shop, it's been a little frustrating. [00:56:10] The other thing, this is surprised me. Th this was this week right now. I've never been a. Another words, just in other words I, it doesn't matter to me if someone's younger or older certainly you can get to a age where there's senility. The other obvious problems with mental function look at president Biden, frankly, and some of the issues he has at least from time to time. [00:56:38] But other than that, I'd never have. So I was really surprised when I was reading an article that. And it was talking about your resume if you want to get hired. And I'm going to run through some tips here because I spent some time doing some more research on this. You guys know, I'm not a spring chicken. [00:56:58] I'm not an old man. The brain's obviously functioning just fine. And that's a good thing. Probably will be well into my eighties. Hopefully nineties that's been the history in my family. I at you're 60 years old, even 70 years old, you still got a lot of good years left in you. So when I'm looking at this and saying, okay, I, what I do is what's called a fractional Cecil, fractional chief information security officer for businesses. [00:57:28] So what I do is I go into a business part time because I limit myself to somewhere between three and four. Customers at a time. And I have a team behind me that helps with all of the paperwork, the documentation, for all the compliance and everything else. It's out there. And as I'm doing all of this stuff for the company I'm bringing them in compliance with the cybersecurity regulations and in a lot of industries, if you're not in compliant, you're in big trouble. [00:58:00] Okay. Then that makes sense. I think to most people. So I was thinking, okay, how can I promote my fractured? Chief information, security officer stuff. I tied it up a little bit of my LinkedIn page. I really got to get some stuff together on my Craig Peterson page and mainstream page as well, which is my company. [00:58:21] But I am, I've done what I've done. So I started doing a little research saying what sort of stuff should I have out there on LinkedIn or other places? And this is where I really got surprised. And this is where the aid just stuff comes. And that is. Everybody. And I did a whole bunch more research on this and everybody says if your older do not even put dates on the resume of when you did things, don't put anything on the resume. [00:58:51] That's more than 10 or 15 years old. And if you've got experience from back then, like I do, I could go in and be a cobalt programmer today. I did a lot of COBOL goading back in the seventies. IBM assembler. I did a lot of that. I even did 65 0 2 assembler for those that might remember that chip. [00:59:10] And I've done a lot of kernel work over the years. See is my language of choice and was for years as I maintained and developed code for the Unix kernels. So all of that. Out the window. And what you do is you put it under additional experience. And even if you're saying, Hey, listen I've been doing this. [00:59:30] Like I've mentioned to you guys before that I have what, over 35 years of cybersecurity experience and it's legit, right? You guys know I've been helping to develop the internet since the early 1980s, like 81 is when I got going a little bit in 83 is when I was into it pretty much full time. But apparently that's unknown nowadays. [00:59:55] So instead of saying, Hey, listen, I've got 40 years of actually I've got closer to 45. I started in 75. I think it was in networking. IBM, networking, the old RJE and stuff. That's a no. I should say 10 plus years of computer network experience, because apparently what's been happening is these machine learning tools that hiring managers are using our age just now businesses are using them because of this problem we just talked about here from the New York times, recruiters are even getting hard to find. [01:00:37] And employees are some in some towns, some cities wages are up 10% in the it area, just in general, let alone cyber secure. So you've got to go through automated systems now, as opposed to a person that's always been tough dealing with HR because HR, they, they don't know the business. They certainly don't know the jobs. [01:01:02] They just got some bullet points, outlines that they're working with. So w we'll talk about this more. When we get back, I'm going to go through some points here, Korn ferry, and others have a lot of good points. And as I said, we should probably try and get Robert half on at some point they're local here. [01:01:19] So anyways, visit me online, sign up right now, Craig Peter sohn.com and stick around. Cause we've got a lot more to go. [01:01:28] We talked a little bit about the jobs, what it looks like out there, what recruiters are doing. I'm going to review here now the resumes, really? What should you have on them? Particularly if you're a little. Older like me.  [01:01:44] New York times. Great article about this. And I am also going to show you this other little article from wired here. We're going to go full screen for those of you watching here online, but the tech companies are really getting desperate. This is a chief economist over Dorsha. Published in a report saying the people are resigning at the highest rates since 2009. [01:02:14] Huge numbers are leaving the labor market entirely and more than 80% do not want a job. The highest on record since 1993. That's absolutely amazing looking at these numbers. So this whole great resignation as it's called has really widened the gap. Let me make these, this text a little bigger for you guys. [01:02:39] And there have been some huge gaping holes. In the workforce out there. S I T in general is really looking for people big time, cybersecurity, also looking for people. And I'm in the process right now of hiring a couple more. And let me tell you, it's more difficult than it's ever been before. In it alone. [01:03:05] This, again, this is according to wired. 31% of workers actively sought out a new job between July and September last year. That's the highest amongst all industries, according to Gartner guys that make all this, these studies that they sell to businesses, data from global. Knowledge found 76% of global. [01:03:27] It decision-makers are dealing with critical skills gaps on their teams, multiply the problem across other tech roles. And it's clear that there's a massive skills shortage and it's just amazing. They have. Sign on bonuses on top of sign-on bonuses, they're trying to move. Hey, we've got better snacks. [01:03:49] And Facebook does out there in the bay area of California. They're having people working from home now. It's Hey, if you want to work from home, you can. Most people are w one of my sons just got a job. He. Performing kind of a CSO function. Like I do. He's worked with me for more than 10 years and that he is just working from home. [01:04:14] He's never actually stepped foot in the office and he has been doing everything virtual, including the whole interview in process. Absolutely amazing. So they're calling this stuff a golden. Hello. In the business already saying, Hey, I didn't get one of those. Yeah. Cause you've been working there for five years, but everyone internally recognizes it's an unusual situation. [01:04:40] And for us to continue to grow, we need to be. Competitive there's sign-on bonuses and they found those have not been effective in the it world because candidates are looking to maximize the opportunity to get much higher salaries elsewhere. Now, I did a proposal. I'm working with a company right now, and I did a proposal for them to provide some of these fractional chief information security officers. [01:05:08] Function. I'm helping to define where they need to go, how they need to get there. I'm doing all the documentation on everything I'm working on, the HR policies everything, including securing the networks, helping them get the hardware, running it, renting them stuff right off the bat so that they can secure themselves very quickly. [01:05:27] Whole bunch of stuff that I'm doing for. And it, frankly, I think it makes a lot of sense, but how could they possibly hire somebody like me? How could they hire someone like my son? So I went online to glass door. You might know about that website, glassdoor.com. It lets you check out businesses. What jobs might they have open and look at reviews from an employee's standpoint of. [01:05:57] Glassdoor is pretty good for that. And I looked at salaries right now. Somebody like me, that is a CSO makes between 250 and $900,000 a year, depending on the size of the county. Now that's real money. Last time I checked, even with the inflation that we're looking at right now, I don't know. Maybe I won't keep up with it. [01:06:23] I saw some inflation numbers. Of course, they move these out of the consumer price index because it would make it look bad. But some of these inflation numbers are over 20%. It's just not. So thank a salary, 250,000 to just shy of $900,000 a year. Salary. Plus load, which you have to add normally what about 30%? [01:06:48] And then plus all of the equipment, plus the CSO needs a team, everything else. This is a huge problem. And they need to be hiring people to fill those jobs they use. These are just amazing. Permanent remote positions in the us doubled from 9%, 18% during the last quarter of 2021 doubled in the last quarter of last year ladders. [01:07:18] And. All on jobs. This is according to the ladders. Okay. And it could increase to 25% by 2020 since making the transition to remote. First, we have been able to broaden our hiring options globally and not be restricted to a talent pool in one area. Now that's an interesting thing too, and that presents some interesting problems. [01:07:42] It's one thing to manage people who are out of the. Upbringing as you are that have the same standards that you are and hiring somebody from somewhere else in the world, they're going to have different expectations. And boy, have I found that by hiring teams in India, Russia, and the Philippines, as well as the us. [01:08:08] Big differences. So you gotta be, you gotta be careful with all that. Okay. So I promised I would get here into resumes for people like us, right? This is not what they say. And this is particularly interesting to me because again, I'm still working and I do it on a contract basis, obviously. I provide these services. [01:08:29] This is something I think that applies to me too. So I'm pulling up a page. You can see on the screen, this is from the muse.com and it's called smart moves, age proof resumes for older workers. Okay. And they have four of them set up and they've got a nice picture of a lady. Looks like she's working from home with age, comes, wisdom and experience. [01:08:51] That's why I was shocked. When I saw what was going hot and right. Where they were going ahead and saying, don't put anything on your resume. That makes it look like you're older. Okay. The quote here is age-ism is an unfortunate and very real part of the job search for older workers. And for some, it can start to creep into their experience as early as their forties. [01:09:17] Isn't that incredible? Absolutely incredible. It's, I kinda dealt with this way back when, in the eighties, because I was younger then obviously than I am now. And there's this impression, at least there was, and it seems just still be around. But somehow if you're working with newer technologies, you need young people to do. [01:09:40] That is not true. As I've said a million times, there's only a few ways that you can code something. So if you're a programmer and you want to solve a problem, there's really only a few ways to do it. In fact, there's books published with algorithms. That's the. Programmed stuff, right? The core of the programming that show you how to do things. [01:10:04] So w we'll be back in just a minute, take a minute. Visit me online. Craig peterson.com. I love to see you there. And when we get back, we're going to finish this discussion, but it's an important one for employers as well as employees here, because I think many businesses are making a huge mistake. Craig peterson.com. [01:10:32] We just talked some more about hiring. Age-ism the problems that come with that for both the employer and the employee. And we're going to get now more into this from the muse. We're going to talk about the four things you should be doing with your resume. [01:10:48] There's there's a lot to be said for having experience. I mentioned about how businesses who are hiring programmers should really rethink the idea of hiring the young guy that knows the latest programming languages. [01:11:07] Because again, There are so many things that you need to know besides how do you code this line? It's what Google did for many years. It probably still does. They don't want you to necessarily write a program in go, which is Google's latest, cool language, but they want you to solve a problem. They want to see your problem solving skills. [01:11:32] How are you going to do it? Nobody has more skills than someone that's been doing that for decades. Again, there's only so many ways to program something. I don't care what language you're using. We used to have a saying, you can write COBOL in any language, but it's true. That's all we used to say. [01:11:53] So when it comes to it in general, the older the person is the more experience they have in the field. The better off they're going to be with your company. Because again, there's only so many ways to break into a computer. Yeah. There's the latest, greatest virus out there, but managing people, managing expectations, working with senior staff, doing presentations for investors. [01:12:23] That's the sort of thing that takes experience. How do you get that experience? There's only one way and that's to get the experience. It takes time learning a new programming language for a programmer, not a big deal at all. Again, there's only so many ways to do something and a programmer like me. [01:12:41] That's done a lot written hundreds of thousands of lines of code, and at least a dozen computer languages. Pick it up. A new language is easy. I picked up Python and was able to be programming in it. Using API APIs online, all of the newest ways of programming and interfacing with other backend systems. [01:13:03] I was able to write something that was putting together a whole bunch of cybersecurity stuff from scratch in the matter of a couple of hours on a language I'd never used before. Okay. How do you deal with that? It's the question of the hour, right? So let's have a look at this article here from the muse. [01:13:24] They've got some suggestions for us. No. If you've been in the work case for workplace, excuse me, for decades, you've got a lot of experience, but putting it all down can be a real liability. I remember I used to have a a dossier. I had a resume, which was like a one pager. Then I had a dossier. The one on for 30 plus pages of all the things I had done. [01:13:51] I wrote some of the very first I designed and implemented and used for a customer, some of the very first firewalls ever made routers, load sharing. But do I want to put that all on the resume? Probably not, but I understand that technology extremely well. So the resumes don't have to be a single page, but it's saying, remember it doesn't have to be a memoir. [01:14:19] It doesn't have to be like my dossier going through everything to prove your worth. And what they're saying here specifically. This is a Gary Sussman. It's just a marketing tool whose sole purpose is to land you an interview. It doesn't have to be exhaustive and comprehensive just has to show that you can solve the problem. [01:14:40] The hiring manager is hiring someone to solve and the beauty right now, again, if you're in the it, if you're in cybersecurity is they need. People. So it's going to be easier to get through. And if you are an older person who has learned a bit about cyber security, maybe taken an online course or two, that you have a much better job or a chance of getting hired for job than you probably have ever had. [01:15:06] Okay. It goes on and on employers are most interested in how your recent work ties back to the job that you're applying for rather than your experience 15 years ago. Okay. That makes sense. So dedicate more resume space to detailing the positions you've held over the past to 10 to 15 years that are related to the job. [01:15:30] Number two, do not date yourself. No. I mentioned earlier in the show that most businesses now are using some form of machine learning call it artificial intelligence, whatever you might want to call it, but they are doing the initial cuts. So they're looking for buzzwords that's for sure. Okay. And. [01:15:53] What they're also looking for

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What is the relationship between machine learning and artificial intelligence? Where do they overlap and how can they compliment each other to further our understanding of ourselves and the world around us? Weiwei Yang explains the path forward for AI and how we can observe and measure the process of learning in the biological world to enhance AI. Series: "Sanford Stem Cell Symposium" [Science] [Show ID: 37779]

What is the relationship between machine learning and artificial intelligence? Where do they overlap and how can they compliment each other to further our understanding of ourselves and the world around us? Weiwei Yang explains the path forward for AI and how we can observe and measure the process of learning in the biological world to enhance AI. Series: "Sanford Stem Cell Symposium" [Science] [Show ID: 37779]

What is the relationship between machine learning and artificial intelligence? Where do they overlap and how can they compliment each other to further our understanding of ourselves and the world around us? Weiwei Yang explains the path forward for AI and how we can observe and measure the process of learning in the biological world to enhance AI. Series: "Sanford Stem Cell Symposium" [Science] [Show ID: 37779]

What is the relationship between machine learning and artificial intelligence? Where do they overlap and how can they compliment each other to further our understanding of ourselves and the world around us? Weiwei Yang explains the path forward for AI and how we can observe and measure the process of learning in the biological world to enhance AI. Series: "Sanford Stem Cell Symposium" [Science] [Show ID: 37779]

Why are we driven to create, and to express ourselves online? Weiwei is the founder of Sprout, a collaborative creation space. She joins Mark and Adam to talk about how tools influence group communication and our sense of belonging; why we should make our online spaces feel more like bedrooms than stadiums or hotel lobbies; and why children's tools have a special magic. Plus: Nintendo's withered technology, Winamp skins, and cursor waves. @MuseAppHQ hello@museapp.com Show notes Weiwei Xu @weiweiwei33 Sprout monowheel scooter Dynamicland growth mindset HCI Metamuse episode with Jason Yuan MakeSpace Google Hangouts, Zoom, Facetime Miro Pointing in virtual spaces Slackmojis, Discord custom emojis Sharpies, butcher paper, calligraphy pens and markers Kindle sushi knives Deluxe Paint introvert Muse Backstage Pass Winamp iOS widgets engagement loops clickbait Metamuse episode on video games World Cup, European championship Adam's homepage gwalb – grey with a little blue Citizen Kane, Mank, Jaws Nintendo's “withered technology” Switch

Host Victor Varnado asked singer WeiWei if she would call herself an influencer. At first she said yes, but then she said no. Sidekick Dave Rosinsky thought she was trying to get other people to wear foil hats.Produced by: Rachel Teichman & Rebecca Trent@Sixunseemly#6UQ #SixUnseemlyQuestionshttps://www.facebook.com/sixunseemlyhttps://www.instagram.com/sixunseemly/https://twitter.com/SixUnseemlyhttps://www.instagram.com/xoxo_weiwei/ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

After a summer defined by protest, we invite on Ai Weiwei, one of the most influential artists and activists of our time, to discuss whether we've changed. Weiwei describes how to protest creatively and powerfully ("you only see your power from your enemy's eye"), the symbolic meaning of this pandemic, and his view on the state of humanity. Plus: FT arts editor Jan Dalley joins Lilah to unpack the conversation and consider where art is going.Links from the episode:—Circa 2020 on Instagram. They're raising money for struggling UK artists with a £100 Ai Weiwei print here through October—Watch Human Flow on Amazon Prime or here—Watch Coronation, Ai Weiwei's most recent documentary, which compiled secret footage of Wuhan during the peak of the Covid crisis, on Vimeo—13 Ai Weiwei works to know (Royal Academy of Arts)—FT piece on the best new operas online (paywall)—Jan Dalley's review of the art world in the 2010sClip credit: AT SEA consists of footage filmed by Ai Weiwei during the making of “Human Flow” in 2016. Since 2015, hundreds of thousands of refugees have attempted the dangerous sea journey trying to reach Europe. Alongside these scenes are shots of physical barriers erected across Europe, the cold response to the plea for safety and shelter from the world’s most vulnerable. Video edited by: Autumn Rin Quotes: The border is not in Lesbos, it is in our minds and in our hearts. – Ai Weiwei, Chinese artist (b. 1957) Music Credit: Karsten Fundal See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Neste episódio falo sobre uma obra de um artista chinês contemporâneo, sobre o ready-made de Duchamp e de Aí Weiwei. Falo ainda sobre as consequências de tentarmos ser perfeitos. As fotos das obras estarão num destaque sobre o pod no meu insta: __sara.beatriz__ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beatriz-mendes643/message

Ai Weiwei is living proof that creativity can change our world for the better. Raised in a labour camp and later beaten, surveilled and imprisoned on trumped-up charges by the Chinese state, Ai Weiwei has dedicated his life to the struggle against corruption and oppression of all kinds. As a conceptual artist and activist fighting for justice, he has become an icon in his own lifetime, renowned world-wide for his work promoting freedom of thought and expression, compassion, and humanitarian values. For one unmissable night at the How To Academy, Weiwei was joined in conversation by Kenneth Roth, CEO of Human Rights Watch – an NGO investigating and reporting abuses in five continents. From the Syrian Civil War to the Rohingya Crisis, US immigration to the South Sudan Conflict, the lawyers, journalists and country experts of Human Rights Watch help hold abusers to account and bring justice to victims. Weiwei and Kenneth were hosted by Helene Cooper, Pentagon correspondent for The New York Times and herself a refugee to the United States, having fled a military coup in Liberia aged 14.

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  We return to the Onyx Path and the Storypath system for our review of Trinity Continuum Aeon. Set 100 years in the future, Aeon is an optimistic science fiction RPG where psi-powered heroes unite and sacrifice to make the world a better place. Our character for this episode is Chen Weiwei. Chen Weiwie grew up in the privilege of the Chinese middle class. He benefitted from the technology and education available to loyal citizens. His upbringing left him wanting to serve for the better of his fellow citizens and those less lucky than he. When he tested positive for psi-potential, there was little question that he'd join the Ministry. However, during his psychological profiling, they decided he would be better suited as a clairsentient than a telepath, and arranged for him to use the ISRA Prometheus Chamber. In the years since, his quick wit and keen intellect have made him an excellent investigator and the crimes he's witnessed have not dampened his jovial demeanor. You can find Weiwei's character sheet here: Character Sheet Our artist is Noah Hirka. You can follow Noah and see more of his art at the following links: https://www.instagram.com/ichor.teeth/ https://ichorteeth.artstation.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ichorandteeth/ To help support the show, share it, or rate and review on your podcast service of choice. To support us financially, please donate on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thestorytold  Our music is composed by James Horan. To contact him regarding composition, send him an email: jhoran99@optonline.net

Ethiopia stands out from other African countries for its ability to attract Chinese companies to open factories there. Through a combination of tax incentives, industrial parks, and its strategic location, Ethiopia is outpacing pretty much every other African country in luring light manufacturing companies to set up shop. But in a country that still lacks a government-set minimum wage, there are widespread complaints that Chinese companies there pay too little and don't employ enough local workers. While those perceptions may be widely-held, they're not supported by the data, according to Weiwei Chen, a PhD candidate at the University of London and a PhD Fellow at UNU-Wider, a think tank at United Nations University in Helsinki, Finland. Weiwei is an expert in Chinese investment in Ethiopia and worked with her University of London colleague, Professor Carlos Oya on a 2019 research report that explored Chinese hiring practices in both Ethiopia and Angola. Their findings echoed earlier research that refuted the stereotype that Chinese companies prefer to bring in their own workers rather than to hire locally. Weiwei joins Eric & Cobus to discuss her latest research on Chinese corporate engagement in Ethiopia and why she thinks there are still so many misperceptions about Chinese hiring practices. JOIN THE DISCUSSION: Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject Twitter: @eolander | @stadenesque | @WeiweiChen16 SUPPORT THIS PODCAST. BECOME A SUBSCRIBER TO THE CHINA AFRICA PROJECT. Your subscription supports independent journalism. Subscribers get the following: A daily email newsletter of the top China-Africa news. Access to the China-Africa Experts Network Unlimited access to the CAP's exclusive analysis content on chinaafricaproject.com Subscribe today and get one month free with the promo code PODCAST: www.chinaafricaproject.com/subscribe

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In our season one finale, we question and explore the ways in which artists wield their work as an activist tool by revisiting Ai Weiwei’s 2017 citywide blockbuster exhibition, “Good Fences Make Good Neighbors”. Weiwei joins Public Art Fund Director & Chief Curator Nicholas Baume for a conversation about the project and his own history here in New York City. We’ll also hear from Bitta Mostofi, the Commissioner for the New York City Mayor’s Office of Immigrant Affairs about the intersections between art and activism she’s observed over the years and the ways in which spectacle can spark dialogue and serve a cause.Ai Weiwei’s documentary, Human Flow, is currently streaming on Amazon. For more information on Bitta and her work with MOIA, please visit nyc.gov/immigrants. Support the show (https://www.publicartfund.org/support)

After releasing Human Flow, his 2017 documentary on the refugee crisis, artist and activist Ai Weiwei was left with 900 hours of footage - what he calls "the rest." This film wasn't just cutting-floor material. It shows the human face of what happens when war forces people to flee their homes, uprooting their families, lives, and futures. The Rest is Weiwei's second close-up at a growing crisis that he says implicates everyone across the globe: from refugees themselves, to the policymakers making it difficult for them to cross borders, to viewers just like us.

Artistic director Cheryl Haines steps behind the camera with her feature length documentary, AI WEIWEI: YOURS TRULY, a documentary that focuses on Ai Weiwei and his latest art instillation that points to prisoners of conscience all around the world. In this 1on1, Steve speaks to Cheryl about what it is about art that inspires fresh thinking and dialogue, how she believe's Weiwei might want his legacy to be perceived and the power of the simple act.

Home-made muskets that often fail to fire and little but lucky charms for protection – what it’s like going into battle for the rebels fighting for independence for English-speaking parts of Cameroon. Colin Freeman meets a former member of the Red Dragons. Caroline Wyatt introduces this and other stories from correspondents around the world. Joanna Roberson hears why the people of Rome fear the historical heart of their city is being carved up by criminals as mafia seek out cafes and restaurants to launder their money. In China, Robin Brant meets Ian Simpson whose son Michael was murdered last year. Michael was killed by his ex-wife Weiwei Fu but now Ian wants her help to win custody of his grandchildren who are living with Weiwei’s relatives in rural China. Heidi Fuller-Love discovers what life is like on the Namibian island of Impalila. It may be close to the borders of Zambia, Zimbabwe, and Botswana, but it can feel a long way from anywhere. And Emma Jane Kirby meets her hero – the French musician Francis Cabrel who is revered in his home country but little known in Britain as he prefers to sing only in his native tongue.

Entrevista a Agostina Luz López, autora de Weiwei, traidó a Chile por la Editorial Elefante, y editado en Argentina por Notanpuan

Ai Weiwei brings displaced peoples from across the world together in his documentary on the global refugee crisis. We discuss their plight, the film's use of poetry, Weiwei's imagery, and the countless ways in which he humanises people who are insulted, ignored, used as bargaining chips, and condemned to lives of confinement with no end in sight. Recorded on 9th January 2018.

Legendary Chinese dissident artist Ai Weiwei talks about Trump, Western democracy and the plight of refugees around the world. Weiwei is making a strong case for himself as America’s leading dissident of the Trump era. Authoritarian leaders in China and elsewhere are the beneficiaries of Trump and the crisis of American democracy, said Weiwei, who spent four years under house arrest and forbidden to leave China before being allowed to leave the country two years ago.

On this weeks program: Chris has a quick recap of Elly Blue's Bikenomics: How Bicycling Can Save The Economy and interviews Colleen Harland MP about less than optimal conditions for riders in Melbournes western suburbs, BikeWest & the recently released report - Getting the West on Track: Closing Major Bike Infrastructure Gaps in Melbourne’s Inner West by Lisa Sulinski. Local news includes a community session tonight at Melbourne Town Hall for Updating Victoria's cycling strategy, the opening of a major National Gallery of Victoria exhibition with Andy Warhol and Ai Weiwei, including an installation from WeiWei's Forever Bicycles series and Freedom Time #2 at Coburg Velodrome.

有没有这样一个地方，它用无限的包容和温暖欢迎着你，Café zarah，在这里，无比自在，非常熟悉。冬去春来，我们留下鼓楼东大街悄然飘下的落叶，收藏生命里关于这里每一次升起的晨曦、和落日的暮霭，是这里，无比亲切，常念常新。每个夜晚亮起暖黄色灯光的橘色小咖啡，用八年光阴如期陪伴，在春光明媚的日子里再聚首，焕然一新。飒哈咖啡的挚友黄维伟特意为咖啡开业Par精心制作一首DJ-set，61分钟的整曲，声场如画、记忆如新，带我们走近，这里时光的点滴。静谧开篇,钢琴勾勒出干净的白昼，广阔无边的蔚蓝有些刺眼，像刚苏醒的城市，每个细胞开始舒展。哲思的静谧，极简、理性、空旷，像清晨喝下第一口清茶，看窗外渐渐匆忙的人群，开始生命的启程。静谧的线索贯穿始终，钢琴的旋律是乐曲起承转合的串联，是音乐诉说故事的画外音，氛围、缓拍、碎拍，每次动机出现的变化都是轮回的预兆。有初来的欣喜，是院落中的新绿，薄荷叶散发的清香，有转身的淡然，是屋瓦落雨的淅沥，夜雾消散带走的心事。 咖啡的音乐拥有静谧的力量，藏匿于环境中，不易察觉，但不经意间却引导内心走向静谧，散散心事，舒服的沉浸其中。 幻梦前段，手鼓有节律的敲击声拉开一望无际的沙漠，落日的斜阳洒满绵延的山丘，像缓缓行进的驼队。有些异域风情，有些难以名状的色彩，像飒哈咖啡夏日午后的一场幻梦。有人到来，有人离去，五湖四海，听你的故事，说我的旅程，放他的音乐。难以辨别，究竟是真实的记忆，是编造的故事，还是听来的传说，都交织成一场彩色的幻梦，五彩斑斓，绚烂撩人。咖啡的细节都充满着幻梦的浪漫，木制的桌椅，砖红的靠垫，袅袅升腾的香薰，这里的音乐人也独爱这份情怀，总能找到相同的记忆，也许是苏梅日落炽热的余晖，也许是吴哥石墙上金色的蜥蜴，也许随潮汐荡漾，随温暖的洋流做一只乐活的水母。夜行中段，心跳的声音幻化为deep的Bassline，低沉、犀利、躁动，肾上腺素开始飙升，高频的旋律铺满了视野所及，绵长而辽远，鼓点的敲击是预兆，黑夜拉开了神秘面纱。碎拍营造了大量碎片式的闪回画面，仿佛时空逆转，定格的瞬间去捕捉闪亮的记忆。夜晚是释放内心鬼魅的最佳时刻，潜意识苏醒，睿智而调皮，挣脱了理性的枷锁，创意将在黑夜中自由驰骋。昨日曲水流觞，今朝觥筹交错，飒哈咖啡的生活充满惊喜。店内从未间断的影展、画展，“瓷器”组织的系列活动，潮汐派对，飒哈咖啡音乐厂牌也开始探寻属于自己的声音。像黄维伟这次为咖啡量身打造的Set,跳跃的律动、有节制的躁动、哀而不伤的感动，锋芒藏匿于暗夜之中，少年在嬉戏。归期曲中，孩子在欢笑，木琴奏出明亮的光芒，月光洒下皎洁，圣咏的合唱如扑面的清风、拂去哀伤。男声轻柔的诉说，归期将至、时间停止、重启归零、迎接新生。生命像一连串无解的谜题，谷底到巅峰，看不到路的尽头，却知晓心的归属。飒哈咖啡给你家人般的温暖，更赋予你难得的自由空间。鼓楼东大街依旧车水马龙，充满活力，更充满着北京和世界交融的足迹，迸发一个又一个奇思妙想的火花。传统和现代，东方与西方，无限可能都汇聚于此，飒哈咖啡就是绝佳的驿站，一个属于北京人的后青春诗意家园。曲终，鼓点已然化作心跳和脉搏，钢琴静静的反复着安静的主题，这是归期轻柔的呼唤，我们用平稳而坚定的步伐见证这八年的时光。期待着聚首的时刻，笑若芳草、生如夏花，我们满是成熟的欣喜。再一齐聆听这首感人至深的DJ-Set，满怀感激，拥抱属于我们的小咖啡。

有没有这样一个地方，它用无限的包容和温暖欢迎着你，Café zarah，在这里，无比自在，非常熟悉。冬去春来，我们留下鼓楼东大街悄然飘下的落叶，收藏生命里关于这里每一次升起的晨曦、和落日的暮霭，是这里，无比亲切，常念常新。每个夜晚亮起暖黄色灯光的橘色小咖啡，用八年光阴如期陪伴，在春光明媚的日子里再聚首，焕然一新。飒哈咖啡的挚友黄维伟特意为咖啡开业Par精心制作一首DJ-set，61分钟的整曲，声场如画、记忆如新，带我们走近，这里时光的点滴。静谧开篇,钢琴勾勒出干净的白昼，广阔无边的蔚蓝有些刺眼，像刚苏醒的城市，每个细胞开始舒展。哲思的静谧，极简、理性、空旷，像清晨喝下第一口清茶，看窗外渐渐匆忙的人群，开始生命的启程。静谧的线索贯穿始终，钢琴的旋律是乐曲起承转合的串联，是音乐诉说故事的画外音，氛围、缓拍、碎拍，每次动机出现的变化都是轮回的预兆。有初来的欣喜，是院落中的新绿，薄荷叶散发的清香，有转身的淡然，是屋瓦落雨的淅沥，夜雾消散带走的心事。 咖啡的音乐拥有静谧的力量，藏匿于环境中，不易察觉，但不经意间却引导内心走向静谧，散散心事，舒服的沉浸其中。 幻梦前段，手鼓有节律的敲击声拉开一望无际的沙漠，落日的斜阳洒满绵延的山丘，像缓缓行进的驼队。有些异域风情，有些难以名状的色彩，像飒哈咖啡夏日午后的一场幻梦。有人到来，有人离去，五湖四海，听你的故事，说我的旅程，放他的音乐。难以辨别，究竟是真实的记忆，是编造的故事，还是听来的传说，都交织成一场彩色的幻梦，五彩斑斓，绚烂撩人。咖啡的细节都充满着幻梦的浪漫，木制的桌椅，砖红的靠垫，袅袅升腾的香薰，这里的音乐人也独爱这份情怀，总能找到相同的记忆，也许是苏梅日落炽热的余晖，也许是吴哥石墙上金色的蜥蜴，也许随潮汐荡漾，随温暖的洋流做一只乐活的水母。夜行中段，心跳的声音幻化为deep的Bassline，低沉、犀利、躁动，肾上腺素开始飙升，高频的旋律铺满了视野所及，绵长而辽远，鼓点的敲击是预兆，黑夜拉开了神秘面纱。碎拍营造了大量碎片式的闪回画面，仿佛时空逆转，定格的瞬间去捕捉闪亮的记忆。夜晚是释放内心鬼魅的最佳时刻，潜意识苏醒，睿智而调皮，挣脱了理性的枷锁，创意将在黑夜中自由驰骋。昨日曲水流觞，今朝觥筹交错，飒哈咖啡的生活充满惊喜。店内从未间断的影展、画展，“瓷器”组织的系列活动，潮汐派对，飒哈咖啡音乐厂牌也开始探寻属于自己的声音。像黄维伟这次为咖啡量身打造的Set,跳跃的律动、有节制的躁动、哀而不伤的感动，锋芒藏匿于暗夜之中，少年在嬉戏。归期曲中，孩子在欢笑，木琴奏出明亮的光芒，月光洒下皎洁，圣咏的合唱如扑面的清风、拂去哀伤。男声轻柔的诉说，归期将至、时间停止、重启归零、迎接新生。生命像一连串无解的谜题，谷底到巅峰，看不到路的尽头，却知晓心的归属。飒哈咖啡给你家人般的温暖，更赋予你难得的自由空间。鼓楼东大街依旧车水马龙，充满活力，更充满着北京和世界交融的足迹，迸发一个又一个奇思妙想的火花。传统和现代，东方与西方，无限可能都汇聚于此，飒哈咖啡就是绝佳的驿站，一个属于北京人的后青春诗意家园。曲终，鼓点已然化作心跳和脉搏，钢琴静静的反复着安静的主题，这是归期轻柔的呼唤，我们用平稳而坚定的步伐见证这八年的时光。期待着聚首的时刻，笑若芳草、生如夏花，我们满是成熟的欣喜。再一齐聆听这首感人至深的DJ-Set，满怀感激，拥抱属于我们的小咖啡。

Live from the DANK Lounge: Creators of Our Time with host Elisa Parker.  Featuring actress, author, director Heather Donahue and artist Joe Meade (Ai weiwei installer) and other creators of our time.  Featured on KVMR FM (www.kvmr.org)

Ai Weiwei is a Chinese artist and political activist who has been named the most influential artist alive. A retrospective of his work has been touring the U.S., and his name is constantly in the news (whether for his art, his run-ins with Chinese authorities, or his internet memes). While his activism has earned him international acclaim, it tends to overshadow his art; in this episode, we focus on looking closely at three of his major works, in order to understand the importance of his choices as an artist (and not only as an activist).

As Miami’s sparkling new Perez Art Museum hosts a big retrospective of the Chinese artist’s work, the FT’s arts writer reflects on culture’s role in challenging oppression See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

It's a bonus episode in which Chris talks to himself for an hour. Chris talks about his other obsessions: video games and movies. Chris discusses: The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds Super Mario 3D World Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies Animal Crossing: New Leaf Batman Arkham Origins Diablo III and Deckard Cain PS4 and Knack Ender's Game Life of Pi Ai WeiWei: Never Sorry Europa Report Oz: The Great and Powerful The Lumpia movie 10th Anniversary DVD party and Brave The Bay Other notes: Chris' Animal Crossing: New Leaf town name is *star Sushi *star and the mayor is Samantha. Chris' 3DS Friend Code is 0946-3524-8754

Alison Klayman, director of the documentary "Ai Weiwei: Never Sorry," discusses the making of the film, and her experience with the iconoclastic artist/activist, with Asia Society Film Curator La Frances Hui. (38 min., 1 sec.)

Steve Head and John Black report from the Independent Film Festival Boston 2012.

Art news, reviews and commentary without those nasty side effects.  Art a GoGo...it's "Art Over Easy." Please visit our blog at artagogo.com/blog for full show notes and links to the topics we discuss on the podcast.

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Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I really wish there are more ways in which we can let our personality and just the little bits of life that we’ve experienced ourselves come through online. It seems like nowadays a lot of the larger sites that we spend time on have all taken an approach for good reasons to in some way flatten our voices to make everything look the same. 00:00:27 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad, but this podcast isn’t about Muse the product, it’s about Muse the company and the small team behind it. I’m Adam Wiggins here with my colleague Mark McGrenigan. Hey Adam. I’m joined today by Wei Wei Xu of Sprout. Hello. And one thing we talk about a lot on this podcast for some reason is cities. Weiwei, you’re in Shanghai right now, and what’s the transit situation like? How do you get around town? 00:00:55 - Speaker 1: Yeah, I live a little bit outside of the downtown area, so it takes about 30 minutes by walking to get to the metro station and. Shared bikes are really common over here, so it’s super convenient to get around with shared bikes, but I also got my hands on to one of these one wheel electric scooter lately and I’ve been a big fan of skateboarding since I was a kid. I’ve tried all kinds of boards, so I thought it’s just super slick to try scooting around on one of these electric scooters and That’s what I’ve been doing lately. 00:01:34 - Speaker 2: And in practice, do you end up in the bike lane? Do you go on the sidewalks? I feel like one of the challenges with the scooter micro mobility thing is that you sort of don’t have a great place to go. You’re sort of a little slow for the bike lane, but certainly probably too fast for the sidewalk. 00:01:50 - Speaker 1: It’s definitely something that everybody’s still trying to figure out, especially here, the policy here is a lot more strict and electric scooters are meant to be a toy, something that you play with in parks and in closed communities rather than on the street, so. It’s kind of like softly allowed on pedestrian walkways and not really on the bike lanes, but bike lanes over here are super protected and they are not right next to cars like in a lot of the cities I’ve been to in America, so either way, I feel pretty safe, but whether it is legal or not is kind of a different question. 00:02:30 - Speaker 2: Yeah, protected bike lanes or something I I’m a big fan of as a person who gets around mainly by bike, although even there when you talk about legal gray areas and new technologies that sit sort of in between the e-bike thing, which has gotten pretty huge, but then that also seems to challenge, OK, now you can go really fast and with not a lot of effort with this motorized thing that at this point is almost like a low powered motorcycle or something like that, but you get to ride in the bike lane, that feels a little weird, yeah, so. Technology that sits on these in between spaces then ends up forcing a change in not only policy but also just social norms and expectations. 00:03:09 - Speaker 1: Yeah, I find these in between spaces really fascinating and that could be in the transportation world. I grew up with a mixed cultural background and so, Dwelling in the in between spaces of that has also been something that I grew up struggling with and have now sort of surrendered to in some way, but those in between spaces are something that’s really beautiful and also sometimes really confusing. 00:03:38 - Speaker 2: Makes sense, but also presents opportunity because you have perspective that no one else has, right? Yeah. And once you tell us a little bit about your background. You’ve done some very interesting academic work as well as all sorts of, I feel you’re all over in the kind of tools for thought, independent research, next generation computing space. 00:03:57 - Speaker 1: I would say that I’ve been on this journey of learning more about myself and I’m still trying to figure out who I am and what I’m trying to do. Perhaps this is what most people do, but I was lucky enough to study interaction design, that was a fairly new program in the school I attended and through that process, I was introduced to the history of personal computing and That whole genre, that whole world and being layered into that got me really, really curious about what it took to get us to where we are nowadays and also where are we headed and I started looking for places where they’re thinking about the future and thinking about alternative paths that haven’t really been explored or illuminated in different ways and That led to working at and also spending a lot of time at this research group called Dynamicland and I’ve also been sort of being in a part of the creative design school environment has also gotten me really interested in the creative process and also this idea of creative expression. So being immersed in a group of designers, creatives and also researchers has led me to where I am nowadays and What I’m trying to do nowadays is exploring what ways can we take ideas into people’s hands and into reality rather than having them sitting or like brewing in research spaces which is also really fascinating but I think I’m just going through this journey of exploring where I am and who I am and also what’s my relationship with the world. 00:05:40 - Speaker 2: Hopefully that’s all the journey we’re all perpetually on, but it’s good you have the self-awareness of it. Maybe there’s an arrogance of youth that sometimes comes with young people early in their adult life where they feel they’ve got it all figured out or they know their path or something when, honestly, it’s just forever a journey of discovery. 00:05:56 - Speaker 1: I think whenever I feel like I’ve gotten it or I understand what’s going on, life hits me in a hard way and it’s like, nope, you don’t have it, you don’t know what you’re doing and then you go into this other cycle of like learning more about yourself and understanding that there’s just so much more possibilities and so much more unknowns. 00:06:17 - Speaker 2: Yeah, and I’m pretty sure that’s not something, at least for a person that has a growth mindset or is forever seeking to learn the lessons life has to teach. I’m going through that still in my 40s here, I’ve seen my mom who’s in her 70s, also going through that. There’s just always more, the world always has more to teach, and there’s more to learn about yourself and about other humans, about our society and how to live best in it. So hopefully that never ends. That’s a good thing. Totally. And you hinted at something we’ve talked about privately a few times, which is sort of taking ideas from the research space or the big thinking space or the ivory tower space and trying to bring it to a practical reality and for sure that’s part of why muse exists, you know, Mark and I were in this research lab working on this stuff and saw an opportunity for something that we said, you know, this could be a product people could really use. We could bring these weird HCI ideas and see if we can bring them into, well, a regular app in the app store and see if that would work or be possible. And I think we talked about it with, I believe it was a former colleague of yours, Jason Yuan, and the episode he was in, great Meta Muse episode if you’re interested in design things, I’ll link that in the show notes. But he’s talked about that as well, which is, yeah, I think he may have also done a stint at Dynamicland. They both worked together at MSpace, and the best thinking big picture thinking and forward thinking comes from places that are a little bit disconnected from commercial realities. You’re not about shipping a product that’s going to make a bunch of money tomorrow, but you’re thinking longer term. But that in turn can lead to a kind of disconnection from the world and not really bringing what you’re making to the world. So I know that’s something you’re thinking about how to best bridge those worlds, which is one of many reasons I wanted to bring you on the podcast. 00:08:01 - Speaker 1: I think the phrase thinking about it is a really nice way to put it in another way to put it is struggling with this spectrum. 00:08:10 - Speaker 2: Oh, I think those are two sides of the same coin. Genuinely interesting or hard intellectual or emotional challenge, you wrestle with it, you struggle with it, you fight with it. It’s not a civilized activity at all in some ways. 00:08:25 - Speaker 1: No, it’s not. 00:08:27 - Speaker 2: And tell us a bit about Sprout. 00:08:29 - Speaker 1: Yeah, so Sprout is a product that came out of MakeSpace and MakeSpace was started with Jason Yuan, Aza Raskin and Mei Li Ku and it’s a project and also um really us trying to answer a question of how do we collaborate and communicate. With each other online and also through computers in a way where we can actually feel more of each other’s presence where all kinds of media formats and all kinds of files can coexist with each other rather than being confined by different apps and different windows that only support its own unique kind of media files. So, In a way, Sprout is a canvas-based collaboration tool that value and also respect video presence and telepresence and we spend quite a bit of time thinking about this gradient of synchronous communication, collaboration. Versus asynchronous communication and collaboration because collaboration doesn’t happen on one end of the spectrum, it’s continuous and so how do we create space, how do we communicate and collaborate in a way where it helps us grow and learn together. 00:09:46 - Speaker 2: One of the things that was striking to me about the initial MakeSpace landing page is, on one hand, it did kind of have a look of, I guess video and specifically, you know, webcam videos of people’s faces who are participating in the meeting, let’s call it virtual meeting. That’s a very front and center idea, so immediately you think, OK, it’s video chat like Google Hangout or Zoom or FaceTime, but the reality is the main or if you use the early version, which you’ve given me a peek at. It is this media canvas in many ways that shares some of the same heritage that Muse does, which is you can put images, you can draw, you can put text, you can put links, and one of the things you can put is your own real-time face, and that’s like a useful addition to the meeting, but it’s not really the center point. It almost inverts the video chat thing and then so I’m not sure whether to think of it maybe coming back to your point of living in those in between spaces, you could think of it as Zoom, but with kind of a working canvas, but it really inverts that because I feel the video chat side of it is just sort of a subset of this larger open canvas or you could think of it as open canvas kind of collaborative whiteboard space, a mirror type thing, but it integrates video chat, real-time video and audio chat in a big way, but I think either. Those descriptions sort of does deserve us to at least what I imagine your vision to be that is finding a middle space there that takes elements from both of those but leaves behind many elements of them could potentially be a more interesting or future facing or next generation way for us to have online meetings, discussions, brainstormings, and so on. 00:11:24 - Speaker 1: I’m constantly working on describing Sprout in better ways because video is the channel or the medium that it sort of like communicate and share our presence and intention with each other. So when we’re using tools like Zoom to meet each other. We are primarily communicating with each other through video and audio, but when it comes to Sprout, your video is attached to your cursor and so it’s not really about the video, it’s more about where your attentions are and it’s more about where your presence is and how you’re sharing it with each other. So for example, On the canvas when you’re in Sprout, you could be going into the opposite corner of another person and that other person could feel that you’re feeling shy or you’re trying to run away from a topic, you’re trying to run away from this discussion and that’s perhaps body language, that’s also attention that’s just the entire dynamic of collaborating and communicating with each other. 00:12:23 - Speaker 3: That’s interesting. So does this mean if you’re on a video call and sprout, and someone goes to check Twitter with their mouse, their face actually like flies off the screen, in the same way that if you would see someone’s eyes, you know, leaving the room. 00:12:36 - Speaker 1: Yeah, so you see their cursor going to the corner and then once they’re in a different tab, their cursor will move around and so when they switch back to the tab, their cursor will be in a different XY position and so it would jump over to that new location and so those are the different ways that you would sense and feel each other’s presence or lack of presence. 00:12:57 - Speaker 3: That’s funny, nice. 00:12:59 - Speaker 2: Yeah, they get tension. We wrote about this a little bit in our pointing and virtual spaces memo, but I feel like the body language in group settings or meetings, presentations, that sort of thing, or even like classroom situations, attention and where people’s attention are and how focused they are is really important. And I suppose one version of that is a teacher that is going to wrap you over the knuckles with the ruler because you’re not paying sufficient attention to the lesson. But another one would be if I’m giving a talk somewhere, it’s really useful to me to see when people are engaged, leaning forward, really curious about what I’m saying versus their kind of eyes are wandering a little bit and looking at their other screen and what have you, and that helps me know where the audience is at and how I can sort of tune what I’m saying or presenting to better meet them where they’re at. 00:13:51 - Speaker 1: Yeah, when meeting and collaborating in person, there’s so much little cues and little signals that you can pick up and when doing so online, a lot of that are being stripped away. So what we spend thinking a lot about is in what ways can we bring some of those. Back and in a way that respect each other’s real presence and just the fact that we’re not just our eyes and our mouth and we have feelings, we have our fingers, we have our body and how do we communicate or try to channel a little bit of that to each other. 00:14:27 - Speaker 2: So our topic today is expressive tools, and I kind of pose this idea to you Weiwei based on what’s on your personal site. I’ll just take a moment to quote directly from there, if you don’t mind, which is, you say, currently I’m gardening at Maspace now Sprout, because computing environments can and should be more fluid, playful, equitable, fun, humane, and expressive. Obviously that. Really speaks to me and Mark and the whole Muse team. We’ve spoken about fluid and playful, for example, in depth on this podcast, but expressive was one that jumped out at me a little bit because first I was thinking, OK, what evokes a strong feeling, but I’m trying to think about what that means in practice, particularly for me as a toolmaker. Is it desirable to make my tools expressive? And if so, how do you do that? So I was curious to zoom in on that. Can you tell us more about what an expressive tool is for you or what that phrase means? 00:15:22 - Speaker 1: When I think about expressive tools. Perhaps we can step back a little bit and think about why do we create as tool makers and when we are trying to create in some way, we’re trying to express and it’s a different kind of way of expressing, but it’s still a form of expression. So when we create tools, can we enable others to express. A lot of the productivity tools that we are familiar with today, they help us in becoming more productive and they help us in getting work done, but some of the times they may not enable us in communicating the feelings or the other little bits and things here and there that’s beyond the factual part of what we are trying to accomplish here. So, I’m curious for both of you, are there tools that you feel like are more expressive than others or less expressive than others and why do they come to mind? 00:16:23 - Speaker 3: Yeah, well, in the digital world, I’ve been a huge fan of emojis and all of their offshoots, you know, they have emojis and texting obviously, but also like ReactGs and Slack and Vote Gs and Discord or whatever, and they’re great because they’re very compact, but they, unlike text, they express more of the range of human emotions, which is so important when you’re working collaboratively. Relatedly, I also think a lot of gifts and memes are very expressive and it’s a little bit goofy sometimes, but that’s another fun digital expressive medium. 00:16:59 - Speaker 2: For me, I think the first place my mind went was a lot of analog world, I guess crafting type things. I really like Sharpies and butcher paper, for example, for kind of reform ideation. I also like calligraphy pens. I took a calligraphy class once a really long time ago. I’m not particularly good at it, but just this tip where it’s even the markers which are pretty easy to work with, but they have this. Angled tip that allows you to, or almost demands that when you write, your line is gonna be a lot more interesting because it’s gonna have thick and thin parts. Highlighters are another one I’ve always, and in a way, actually, a lot of these analog kind of ideation tools like Sharpies and butcher paper and highlighters, they’ve been collecting dust since I have used, but in some cases I pulled them out cause I still like the feel of that in the same way that I really like the feel of paper books, but in the end, I haven’t really read paper books since I’ve had a Kindle for 10 years, but there is, of course, something very evocative about the analog world, and also certain kinds of kitchen tools or like sushi knives. I really like something like fabric as a material, a creation material, maybe cause it’s got texture and color and it moves in interesting ways, those kinds of things. I guess they’re all roughly grouped under like a crafty kind of artistic space. So yeah, then when you come to the digital world, It’s a lot harder to think of them in a way because yeah, computers are traditionally, at least there are these pragmatic, mathematical computing machines use it to compute your quarter to projected earnings, spreadsheet thingy thing, but of course, certainly in the last decade or so, we’ve seen a lot more playfulness and fun through social media and memes and emojis and so on. There’s a few from my childhood as well, that kind of I thought of when you offered this prompt, which includes things like deluxe paint or mod trackers, but I don’t know how much those are. You know, is it that when you are a child, everything is a more expressive tool because you’re more expressive as a person and so therefore I have that nostalgia attached, or is it actually for me there was something really kind of special and unique about the Pixel art in the kind of Amiga Atari ST age when you had computers were getting like just good enough for their graphics and sound. really impressive video and audio art, but it still was this very constrained format that this medium had a very unique look to it that you wouldn’t mistake for any other. So I’m not sure how much that is sort of childhood memories attached and how much that was a truly special and therefore an expressive time for sort of computing or medium things. That’s yeah, a little bit on my list. 00:19:41 - Speaker 3: Adam, I do think there’s something there to our childhood tools because when you become an adult and you’re working with serious productivity tools designed by proper professionals, they tend to really focus on the business process like the goal of the software is to produce a sales chart or the goal of the software is to document a flow in a factory. And I feel like often we like lose the plot in terms of how important the emotions and feelings and human side of digital communication is. And we often have to go back to the kids stuff because that’s all they have, you know, they don’t have any real job, right? We have to go back to their texting and their Discord emojis, right, to actually bring the humanity back into our tools. So I think there’s something to that. 00:20:22 - Speaker 1: I find that really fascinating when this past year I’ve been able to spend more time in Taipei and Shanghai and as a part of that, I got to be surrounded by more kids than when I was living in San Francisco and I’m just fascinated by how kids would Dream and just run around and do whatever they want without caring about what others are thinking and that’s something really interesting because I almost feel like I’m forgetting how to do that unfortunately and I’m still trying to understand and figure that out and As a part of being around kids, I’m thinking more about in what ways can we bring some of those back and why do we express or maybe the emotion of expressing is a result and where it’s originating is Just being ourselves. We consider kids as they’re expressing or they’re doing things on their own, they’re being kids, but what they’re really doing is they’re being themselves and we’re classifying that as expressing and That’s something that I’ve been thinking a lot about and trying to understand, are we expressing or maybe we expressing is the result of being ourselves. So when it comes to building tools and also working, trying to do work through digital tools or analog tools, can we be ourselves or in what ways can we enable more of us being ourselves? 00:21:50 - Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting. And your comment about there not being a lot of kids in San Francisco is reminding me of this idea of multi-generational households and communities, and it’s so nice there because you get the mix of the incredible energy and carefreeness of the kids and the wisdom and experience of the older generation and maybe the Engagement in the productive economy of the middle aged folks, and they’re all kind of learning from each other. And that’s one of the things that I like when you can see in software. I go back to the example of Discord, if you’re actually doing productive work, like give a serious job that uses Discord. Kind of get some of those young kid, you know, vibes basically coming through and that’s really cool. So now I’m thinking, what’s the equivalent of a multi-generational community in the software world? Can we have a tool that pulls from all of those different life stages to bring those different energies in? 00:22:40 - Speaker 2: Discord is one of the ones that I had thought of as well in terms of that it does bring a lot of vibe or style to particularly this gamer style, even though they’ve expanded beyond that, and you’ve got Slack, which in many ways is a pretty directly comparable product, but has a completely different vibe. It’s a playful, lighthearted thing, but maybe in their own way, they’re each playful or they each have like a youthful quality, but they just feel like completely different culturally. 00:23:07 - Speaker 1: And I think that comes back to the culture or the personality of a team that’s creating those tools or the intent of creating the tools. So in some way it comes back to what are the creator’s goal and inevitably we project our own intentions or our own wishes into the tools that we’re building. Sometimes those are intentional, sometimes they’re not, but, The ability in which we can express through a tool is also shaped by the tool makers. 00:23:40 - Speaker 2: And I think that’s for me as a toolmaker, it’s a very desirable thing that I get to. This is a form of art for me, this is a form of self-expression, and hopefully the things that I want to put into whatever tool I’m working on at the time, match up with a market need, right? When we were working on Pirou, for example, and we had a particular vibe that came through in that, and maybe that matched with what developers needed or didn’t need at the time, similarly with Muse, and we have kind of this, I don’t know what the word is for it, philosophical, serene, thoughtfulness. Hopefully that connects to a tool for deep thinking. So I think you can be a little thoughtful about that is, do the things that I have to express as a person or the vibe that I and my team want to put off to those match with the thing that we’re trying to create or the need that we’re trying to fill. There is a practical side, of course, but if you can match those up well, it’s really nice. And I also like on the flip side, or when I’m on the other side of that equation, a user or a customer, I really like it when a lot of persons. of the team comes through, whether or not their exact vibe or artistic style matches what I personally would do, just the fact that it’s showing something about who they are as people, and that tends to happen, especially on smaller teams because each individual can have more of a contribution, and the bigger it gets, the more it all blurs together into a homogeneous kind of corporate. Nothing, which also is fine for many kinds of products that are needed in the marketplace, but I have this interest in kind of niche, weird, independently created software. So I like that you immediately went to the thing underlying expression and expressive tools, which is why we want to create or in some cases need to create or driven to create as creative people. How do you answer that question for yourself? What do you see in others ultimately, why do we want to expressive tools and why do we want to create things? 00:25:35 - Speaker 1: I’ve been trying to understand this for myself and also for collaborators that I’ve been lucky enough to work with. For me, right now, there is this desire to fill some kind of hole that I think I have within me and I’m not sure what that hole might be, but, It may not be related to technology itself or the medium itself, but I think it may go beyond that a little bit. I think it has to do with this intrinsic curiosity and probably intertwined with ego that I have and I think there is also to put it in a perhaps cheesy way, I think there is also this desire to care about others and also to be cared by others and Expressing is a way to feel that. I think in some way, our desire or my desire to express and to create comes back to learning more about myself, learning more about others and also learning more about the surroundings that I’m in right now. 00:26:35 - Speaker 2: That resonates with me partially because I don’t know if you consider yourself an introvert, but I consider myself a very extreme introvert, that is to say, many kinds of social interactions are challenging for me, and I actually find it much easier to connect with others over creation. Something they have made that I appreciate, something I have made that they appreciate, and that becomes the starting point for connection. A lot of my very great friendships. I never know entirely what to call them, it sounds too crass to call it like my network and networking, but there are many folks that I’ve either worked with as former colleagues, or even maybe I’ve never worked with him at them at a conference or I know they’re worked some other way, or we had them on the podcast or something, and then we go on to just have more of a Friendship, but it’s a friendship that is based around a mutual passion for some element of product creation or some artistic endeavor and maybe an encouragement for each other, you know, sort of like cheering each other on and whatever you know early raw product or other kinds of creations we are pursuing. But yeah, that for me ends up being a cornerstone for a lot, not all but many very great relationships in my life. So, I don’t know if I think of that as like a hole to fill or a deficiency, it’s just a different way to relate to others. I hope no better or worse that other ways one might be able to relate to others. 00:27:57 - Speaker 1: And in some way, I think that’s really beautiful because when we connect and when we get to know each other, it’s often through a topic or through a shared. Experience that we’re having across time or across space. So with both Sprout and Muse, I feel like we’re trying to create spaces digitally for us to be connecting with ourselves or connecting with others through objects, through topics. Rather than just by talking or hand waving about something and that’s the beauty of being able to create spaces that enable and respect the variety of objects and topics for us to be talking about and co-creating together. 00:28:44 - Speaker 2: Yeah, that speaks to me because I just find that, especially when I’m connecting with someone new that I don’t know very well, having a visual aid of some kind, even just a simple napkin sketch, just makes it easier to make that connection. As a toolmaker creating the space, you want it to be artistic, you want it to be expressive, but there does also need to be a practical element. This is a product that people will pay for or have some way of sustaining itself. It exists in the economy. How do you balance or trade off very pragmatic technology needs or just solving a problem people have and are willing to pay for kind of needs against your desires as a creator, to express yourself, to make the kind of thing that You feel as an artistic expression of the things you value. 00:29:31 - Speaker 1: Earlier we touched on this idea of thinking about topics and thinking about the dynamic between research and also commercial work or struggling with these bridges, these gaps. I think when it comes to building products and also building features, there’s also this. Process of struggling and understanding what do people need and what do I need as a toolmaker and who am I creating for a lot of the times we are creating things by following inklings or by following ideas that we’ve accumulated from different experiences through life when it comes to Understanding whether those inklings are useful or are practical or not, a lot of it I feel comes back to iterating and it also comes back to being open to what might be there for you. So it again comes back to this idea of like letting go of ego and being open to what the world has to offer and also what people who are using the tool who are also spending time with the tool has to say about the tool itself. 00:30:41 - Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think there’s almost an element of play here. I’ve heard a definition of play, which is like, you’re undertaking an activity without so much of a focus on the end goal and like as much of a commitment to that. And so here the idea is you just try some stuff. And you’re OK with that thing not working or working in a way that you didn’t anticipate. And I think you need to have an element of that, especially as we’re exploring these new areas of the map, like what does digital mean for group communication and expressivity and belonging. So yeah, that’s one of the reasons why I’m so excited about the work that you’re doing cause I feel like it is very playful and is exploring more areas of the map. 00:31:23 - Speaker 1: It always comes back to these motions that we make with each other, so it’s playing, it’s interacting, it’s learning, it’s dancing and through that process, also through different stakeholders, so we’re playing and we’re also communicating and learning with our teammates, but we’re also learning from our customers or folks that are using the tool. Whether it’s recurring or just one time, all of that are processes that we go through to really understand what we’re trying to do and also what we’re trying to offer. 00:31:59 - Speaker 2: Now one thing I’d be interested to dig in on a little bit is expressiveness of the tool, that is its ability to help you express yourself versus the tool being something you as in you Weiwei or you mark, are expressing about the world. This came up recently on the Muse team a little bit, which is we’ve always come down on the side of making. Our tool kind of as neutral and minimalist as possible, really try to get out of the way and make it so that you make your own canvas and space, and if you like a dark heavy metal aesthetic, you can do that, and if you like a light and airy gardening aesthetic, you can do that. As much as possible, we’re not conveying a huge amount of personality through the product, and the reason it came up recently is we added this backstage pass feature, which is basically kind of has a little bit of a rock and roll style vibe, and we did a little bit more stylization, kemorphic stuff on the menu, not too heavy, but it was intended to just be a little more fun and playful and express a bit more of this character. And yeah, I’m curious, particularly because at least Sprout as I’ve seen it so far, definitely has a lot of I think character even just in the mouse cursors and the way the names are rendered and some of the default elements you can put down before the user puts in their own content. So I’m curious how you see the difference between a tool that helps you express versus a tool you’re creating that expresses something you see or feel about the world. 00:33:30 - Speaker 1: I think it essentially comes back down to what opinions we have and are trying to put forth and the current visual iteration of Sprout is just one iteration that we have and one opinion we have, we may move on from it or we may stick with it depending on how people are reacting to it, but currently with Sprout, There’s this stationary vibe that we’ve added to it, so we’ve been referencing, we’ve been referencing stickers, different pens and also pencil boxes, washing tape, all of those tools and also little things that help us decorate our journals or even just our workspace in real life and What we hope to do is create further interface for people to customize that because that’s one opinion. The stationary vibe is one opinion that we have, but imposing it on everyone may not be the right thing to do, so. A plan we have is to create toolbars where you can change that for yourself and also create themes and also create skins or stickers for yourself to create the kind of vibe you want to set for the room. 00:34:44 - Speaker 3: That’s awesome. Regular listeners of the podcast will have heard this rant already, but I’m such a big fan of giving users agency over their creative environment, you know, they’re pouring their whole heart into this digital canvas. It’s nice if you let them choose the colors of the walls and the shape of the pens they’re using and stuff. That’s cool. 00:35:03 - Speaker 2: I feel theming and skins, maybe they fell out of fashion, maybe like WAmp was the peak sort of theming age for computing, and I don’t know if that’s maybe because as design and designers got more clout, let’s say, and then it becomes a platform for them to express a unique personality. And I think again people do like that, like coming back to the slack and Discord examples. That something that has a lot of personality and expresses itself through the copy, through the colors, through little animations inside the UI, but then once you’ve designed that whole thing, adding kind of skinning capability and letting other people mess with your beautifully chosen color palette or whatever is something that maybe is a little bit antithetical to, I think, kind of the current status quo and I don’t know, software design. 00:35:56 - Speaker 3: I don’t know. I feel like this skinnable future is already here, it’s back, it’s just not evenly distributed. Look at things like Minecraft, there’s a big mod and skinning culture there, even Twitch and Discord, there’s a lot that you can do, and even Apple has caught up recently and they had this, I’m not a user, so I’m gonna describe it poorly, but like the customizable home screen. 00:36:17 - Speaker 3: The widgets, yeah, yeah, it seems so basic, but it was this enormous hit because people like. 00:36:21 - Speaker 2: Control their creative environments, especially something like your phone, I think that’s not specifically a creative tool, but it is something that you have with you all the time. It’s very personal. You look at it continuously. I think this is a reason why phone covers are also sort of a popular personalization item, so it’s a very obvious one maybe to project a little bit in the same way that clothes or jewelry or makeup or You know, the kind of art you hang on the wall in your home, these are all things that you’re making an environment that makes you feel good, but also expressing to others, here’s the kind of person I am, the things I find beautiful, the things I value. 00:36:58 - Speaker 1: In some way, I also feel like creating and also setting the tone of my own space, whether it’s digitally or physically is also a way to slow down. Throughout the pandemic, I’ve been immersed with a lot more of the digital spaces that have always been around, but I think the pandemic has given me a lot more time to spend time on or with the screens and so much of The internet world is moving at a pace that’s not necessarily human or that’s not necessarily matching our own human pacing. I think with us, we are thinking about time at so many different time frames, so there’s our own heartbeat. But then computers are able to process things at milliseconds, so we are able to refresh news feeds and social media feeds at that speed, but being able to customize our own space and also being able to take the time. To let our own personality, let our own voice come through a tool or a space that we are a part of, is also a way to slow down a little bit to perhaps move and stroll around rather than being on a treadmill and pushed forward all the time. 00:38:17 - Speaker 2: In a way it does seem like we were rushing towards a world of extremes or perhaps we’re trying to rather than find a middle balanced place end up with both the hyper fast, exactly as you said, the 24 hour news cycle and refreshing your feed and everything has this frantic pace to it. But then on the other hand, where meditation has become incredibly popular and people are always seeking these retreats and ways to slow down and disconnect because it becomes too much. Certainly my hope, and I think some of what we’re channeling through the Muse product a little bit, but also, I guess just in my own life, I feel like it should be less that I’m either hyper adrenalized, jacked into the news feed crazy thing, and that I need to take a 10 day silence retreat just to like recover from that, and then I jack back into that. That instead I could find kind of a middle thing here, just to give you one small example, Mark, you and I talked about kind of the schedule for which to release these podcast episodes when we got started, and you felt, and I think you’re right, we could easily produce enough content to do, for example, a weekly publication, but I actually like that if you do a little bit more slowly, we do every 2 weeks. I like that it gives you a little more time to invest in the episode itself, to prepare the guests, to make sure the content you have is good, to review afterwards and see if any edits are needed. And maybe that just means it’s less work for me overall, but for me, there’s something about that pacing that is often enough that I feel like it’s fresh and frequent and lively, but slow enough that it feels almost deliberately slowed down compared to, I don’t know, a lot of podcasts I’ve subscribed to that have multiple episodes a week and there’s just no way I can listen to all of them. And that of course leads you to listening at the sped up rate, you know, you got all these features of this, cut out the silence. and skip over the thingy thing and listen to 1.5x or 2X to try to download as much information to your brain as you possibly can and maybe I’m just a purist, but I just like to listen to my podcast at regular like I’m I’m in a conversation and I’m listening to folks talk. You know, I don’t complain when I’m talking to my friends that I wish they’d talk faster so we can get to the end of this conversation, so it’s more efficient, you know. 00:40:32 - Speaker 3: And that’s surprising. I’m a 2.5 xer myself, so we’re very different on this one. 00:40:36 - Speaker 1: I’m a 1.8. 00:40:41 - Speaker 2: Well, do you have ways to sort of attune yourself just in separately from any software you’re building, just ways to make your life and especially your digital life, be at the pace that you feel is natural, is best for your health, is the right one for you? 00:41:00 - Speaker 1: To be honest, I think I’ve been struggling with it, especially because of the pandemic. I think the pandemic has made myself in one way more immersed in the digital world and in another way more aware of how much I’m immersed in the digital world and I think I’ve been doing a little bit of what you just shared which is oscillating between the extremes of being hyper online and being hyper offline and trying to stay away from the screens from the technology. What I found myself doing a lot of the times is comparing myself to others and comparing my own achievements and the work I’ve done with others and that leads to fairly unhealthy places and right now what I’m trying to do is focus on trying to be in the middle, not oscillating into the extremes but just being at my own pacing and being myself, whatever that means and letting go of expectations. I’m curious for you both, are there things that you’re doing to curate or also structure your own digital spaces? 00:42:06 - Speaker 2: For me, one of the biggest ones is notification management and mostly just turning them off a lot. In some ways that comes in the form of, I don’t have an email address I’ve used for years that’s the one I used to sign up for services because no matter whether they say they’re not going to send you marketing emails, eventually they are, and I just have a separate place I can channel those, for example, but device notifications, I think are a particularly sort of thorny area because on one hand, There, I think the introduction of general purpose notifications first on Android and later on iOS made smartphones vastly more useful. On the other hand, they lead to, I don’t know, breaking news alerts and you know, someone liked your posts and sucking you back in engagement loops that I find extremely unhealthy. And so to me they’re right, if I can do for myself a good job with, for example, I turn off 100% notifications on. On the desktop and on the iPad, cause those are workspaces. My phone is my notification device, so I can just silence it and put it face down if I ever don’t wanna hear notifications. But then I also very kind of aggressively manage those in terms of what apps are allowed me to send me notifications, including a lot of the default system Apple apps I have to turn off notifications for because they send me junk about photo memories or something like that, that’s just not what I want that for. And that’s an ongoing effort there and in a way I think the right notifications actually can reduce my call stress or increase my ability to be in the moment because I know that I can be raised by a colleague if there’s something important that they need me for, then And that’s good. I can just leave my phone in my pocket and be in the moment doing whatever I’m doing, not being worried about that there’s something I need to check, because I think checking of inboxes and sort of the polling versus the push system of notifications also has its own compulsive, unhealthy loops, but yeah, that’s forever a work in progress, I think. 00:44:02 - Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have a tactical answer here, and then I have a more strategic one. So on a tactics front, I’m just trying to be really mindful of all the, it’s bad on purpose to make you click stuff, which is now incredibly rampant. You just got to be really aware of it because there are so many organizations whose now entire purpose is to generate bad titles to make you click. And then once you realize that’s a dynamic, you can, you know, block and filter all this stuff, but it’s very easy to fall into that hole and that makes you very, you know, mad, which is the entire purpose, right, of this clickbait. So that’s helped me a lot. But on the more strategic front, I kind of want to turn back to our original topic of expressivity because we’ve been talking mostly in terms of individuals, right? Like us as individual creators, but I think there’s this huge element of group expressivity and belonging. And especially now we had this double whammy of one, we’ve had the secular trend of atomization, at least in the West, that’s been going on for a long time. People are more by themselves, and then obviously we got hit with COVID, which isolated people more. And I feel like in the last 6 to 12 months, those have really stacked up and people have realized that they don’t have enough social interaction and group belonging, and they’re sort of scrambling to get it. And I think potentially digital tools could help a lot. There’s all kinds of exploration that we need to do in terms of what are the patterns, what are the technologies, what are the institutions that help form this group belonging. There’s all kinds of different stuff we’re gonna need. So that’s one of the reasons I’m excited to see people explore the space of how can we use digital tools to help bridge this gap. So that’s one thing I’ve been exploring personally, like, you know, try to find the right online communities and ways of building community and ways of connecting still early stages, but I think that’s gonna be important. 00:45:40 - Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was in our episode on what we can learn from video games. You talked in depth about the Discord phenomenon. Which, you know, to my mind, I saw it as a group chat product that was similar in a lot of ways to Slack, it’s a different aesthetic, but you opened my eyes to there’s a whole huge culture around how these servers are run, and the custom emojis, and the product may be similar on the surface, but there’s a whole huge cultural thing around gamers who unite or find community in games they either enjoy playing or in many cases, players they enjoy watching. And then they have found very effective ways to make new kinds of digital meeting spaces. 00:46:23 - Speaker 3: Yeah, it’s one area where I do think people are really onto something, and it does connect back to a classic form of belonging, which is sports teams. So back in the before times, people would have local sports teams that they were really big fan of, and everyone who was physically around you and you we would spend time with would be a fan of these teams too. And the game itself wasn’t really a huge deal, and people would say it was obviously, but it’s more about having a locus of conversation and belonging where everyone in your community believes that, you know, in my case it’s like the Packers, you know, the Packers should do really well. That’s something you can talk about and get excited about and discuss, but in many cases we’re losing things like that and so what replaces it. 00:47:05 - Speaker 2: I may have mentioned this when we were discussing that before, but professional sports and in particular the building of, I don’t know, tribal affiliation or community around rooting for a particular team is not something I ever understood. Maybe a classic kind of nerd thing, whatever. Maybe I just didn’t grow up in the right places, but Living in Germany, where football is a very big activity, what you might call soccer, and in particular when there’s these big championships, the World Cup, just a couple of months ago we had the European Cup, and it’s everybody, really everybody’s watching, like if I go to take my dog for a walk when a game is on. The streets are empty, and you just hear time delayed the game playing out of people’s windows and local corner stores have it and everything like that. And it’s actually as a result of that, I’ve gotten into it a bit. I end up following the matches as they get closer to the thing, and we invite friends over, and you can have that conversation. Like, oh, did you catch that game between, you know, Denmark and whatever last night? Wow, that was quite a, what have you. And I don’t imagine this is the sort of thing I would do on an ongoing basis, but just for this brief moment in time where these championships are happening and sort of everyone seems to be tuned into that a little bit, you know, I kind of get it. 00:48:18 - Speaker 3: Another sort of pattern here is conversation pieces, so that you might in your physical home have a sort of weird object, you know, it was the football used for the touchdown pass on such and such Super Bowl game or whatever. And ideally it looks a little weird, or has some sort of demarcation, so that when people come in, they’re like, oh, what’s that? Well, let me tell you about it. And then you have a whole conversation and one of the reasons why I like tools like MakeSpace is they have this kind of personalizable. environment so you can create a little bit more of that dynamic, you know, come over to my space on the screen and let me tell you about whatever, you know, my stickers, and you can see and have a little bit of a conversation around it. So I think there’s all these little patterns we need to refigure out in the digital world. 00:49:04 - Speaker 1: Yeah, the sense of belonging is perhaps one of the main reasons I think I have a desire to express and earlier I mentioned this desire to care and also to be cared by others and I do think the root of that is the sense of belonging that I and perhaps others are trying to feel. 00:49:26 - Speaker 2: Belonging is one of the most basic human needs in many ways. We are truly social animals, and as Mark said, we’ve atomized or deconstructed a lot of the very traditional structures by which we had belonging, which I think in most respects is probably a win, at least in the sense of many times you were stuck with a default structure that may or may not suit you. And so now you have more freedom and choice to find the place that feels like home, or a group that feels like a family versus kind of inheriting some from your circumstances where you happen to be born, and if you don’t like it, too bad. But yeah, I think in many ways we’ve blown it away and have yet to fully find good replacements, or even a way offer people a path to finding those replacements. 00:50:17 - Speaker 3: So I’m curious then if you all have particular frontiers of digital expressivity and belonging, they are interested in exploring different things you’re excited about or looking forward to trying or looking forward to continue to try. So it might be this idea of mixing in video with canvases, or it might be customization or it might be gamer style social interactions. In my case it would be like I really want to bring emojis to everything, including new they’re so powerful. 00:50:47 - Speaker 2: Yeah, one for me that I’m a big fan of is personal homepages. I think I’ve heard this echoed a little bit and people. Reminiscing on the web kind of late 90s, early 2000s, where it was much more get a shared host and just hack together your HTML and PHP file as best you could, maybe GeoCities, for example, as one kind of maybe often maligned example, but the idea that creating a personal home page and a weird space on the web that expressed what you had to say was commonplace. And nowadays, of course you can still do that, but typically people rely more on their social media profiles, but those are very prescribed. You can kind of upload the avatar image and maybe you get a banner and you can change a couple of colors, but it just does not have anywhere near that well expressiveness. And I semi recently redid my personal homepage and that felt really good even keeping it really simple because it’s a chance to stop and reflect on. At least career wise, who am I, what do I value, what am I trying to accomplish, what are the things I’ve done already that I’m proud of, what do I want people to get in touch with me about for more future facing things, and I often find myself encouraging. Others, I have friends who are artists or musicians, they have a small business or something, and I find myself encouraging them to just make a small, simple personal homepage, because I think it’s as much about, yeah, it’s nice to have this calling card basically that you can give to someone before you meet them and they can add a little something about you, but I think it’s also really that chance for reflection. is who do I want to be, and it’s not just who am I now, which is obviously part of it, but that aspirational element. And if you really need to boil it down to a web page, so yeah, maybe it has some animations and maybe it has some images and it has some colors and has some type and it has some copy, you have a lot of freedom in one way, but in another way it needs to just sort of briefly state who you are and maybe have your picture and something like that. I don’t know, I’m just a big, big fan of personal home pages. It always makes me smile when there’s someone new I’m going to meet, or what have you, and they can, you know, make me their homepage or have it in their signature or something, and great, I can go read about this person and we can get past that initial, maybe this comes back to being an introvert and get past that initial small talk phase, and we go straight to what are they about, what do they value, what’s the core of who they, at least that they want to show publicly to the world. So, I don’t know if that’s a frontier exactly, it almost seems backward looking, but more personal home pages, especially for creators and creative types, is something that I hope the future holds. 00:53:27 - Speaker 1: I really wish there are more ways in which we can let our personality and our just like the little bits of life that we’ve experienced ourselves come through online. It seems like nowadays a lot of the larger sites that we spend time on have all taken an approach for good reasons to in some way flatten our voices to make everything look the same and one of my good friend Kicks Condor and I joke about how a lot of the web has adopted this color of guab, which is gray with a little blue and nothing else. And so I agree with you and what you said resonated a lot in terms of are there internet corners that we can carve out and can we make places online that feel more like our living room or our bedroom rather than this giant lobby or this giant stadium that nobody really belong to but it’s big enough for anyone and everyone to come through. 00:54:27 - Speaker 2: So I guess what I’m saying is bring back my space. At least the MySpace vision, right? That’s kind of what it was. Maybe it wasn’t a good implementation, but that was the idea. 00:54:37 - Speaker 1: My hope is that we’re just constantly going through these different phases, we get tired of simplicity or just the sameness and then we go back into all kinds of crazy ways to colorize, to stylize everything and then perhaps that then becomes too much for our eyes and for our brain and then we sort of like go back to things in a quote unquote simpler times, but yeah. 00:55:06 - Speaker 2: So maybe a cultural pendulum between weirdness and explosive diversity versus homogeneity and understatedness. 00:55:17 - Speaker 1: And to go back to your question mark, I think something that I’ve been thinking a lot about as a part of this journey of building sprout is Are there more ways for us to create secret handshake or to show each other our body language in the spaces that we spend time in and as we collaborate through the internet. Something that we’ve done by spending time on spatial canvases of different kinds is we found we’re able to make gestures and also hand wave at each other. They’re in different ways, so we call it cursor waves where you can make very small wiggles and very fast wiggles or you can make big waves where it feels like you’re trying to shout or like get someone’s attention from far away, but those are moments where it feels like we can communicate a little bit more or connect a little bit more beyond just looking at each other or saying hi to each other. 00:56:14 - Speaker 2: It also points to maybe how much this is a frontier that you’re operating in where the status quo that we’re starting from, which is the video chat, static squares, you know, if it’s pretty advanced, maybe you have a menu somewhere where you can put one of three emojis briefly overlaying your video as an option. But the room for expressions of different kinds, even the one you described that as you describe it sounds pretty simple and straightforward, but it actually ends up being fresh and novel. It just shows how much unexplored frontier there really is here. 00:56:49 - Speaker 1: The other day I was talking to a friend and thinking about how the film industry in the 1st 40 years of the film industry, there wasn’t really sound and there wasn’t really the idea of montage and we’re only at the early phase of internet and computing, so it’s always really exciting to think about what might be ahead of us and what kind of path we can pay for ourselves and also for each other. 00:57:15 - Speaker 2: I love the film industry comparison because clearly the technology got better over the years, color film, audio, higher quality images and sound. But fundamentally going back even 50, 80 years, you have the video format taking a camera and pointing it at some humans that are doing some kind of action or telling some kind of story. You could do most of what you can do now in modern filmmaking, I think. But most of these techniques had to be discovered, and it’s always interesting to me when you go and watch one of these culturally important or sort of like touchstone films, So reflecting on Citizen Kane recently, just because I watched the Netflix film Mank, which kind of is a reference to that, and then Jaws is another interesting one, where it was kind of one of the first action blockbusters. You go back and watch films like these two, and a lot of things they do just seem obvious or Not that remarkable by modern, but they invented a lot of what came to be the modern filmmaking techniques, modern storytelling techniques. So of course you take it for granted now because it’s this known quality, but at the time it was breakthrough storytelling. In many cases it’s about how the camera is angled or where it’s positioned or how they do the edits or something about how the dialogue fits together with the way the story is being told. All of those things could have. And done 100 years ago, they just weren’t because there were techniques that had to be discovered and learning how to use the medium well took a long, long time, generations, and there’s no reason to think computing would be any different, even if you froze all the technology, things like displays and hard drives and pointing devices and things exactly as it is today, and then you can assume it would take decades, if not generations to really truly get the most out of this unique new medium that’s before us. 00:59:07 - Speaker 1: Mhm. There’s always so much more remixing that we can do and I think that’s the main reason why I find Nintendo as a company really inspiring because they’re always working with what they talk about as withering technology, they’re never using the most advanced technology. The products that they are building and instead through remixing and through understanding the essence of the medium that they are trying to work with, they are able to create really, really delightful experiences for families, for individuals, for gamers. 00:59:45 - Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Nintendo is one of my favorite kind of of sort of big long term corporate entities that are one of the most inspired and reliably inspired over the decades, and yeah, one of the things they do is in their console hardware, including the Switch, which I have right now, it’s the only sort of dedicated game. The thing I have in my home, and in no way is it the cutting edge of hardware and sort of gamers that care about being the absolute pinnacle of graphics technology or whatever kind of shake their heads. Why would you want this? But you slice it a different way and you say, how do you give a fun, delightful, and approachable experience, especially maybe for more casual players, and do something innovative, but it’s not about just pushing the most graphics horsepower possible. It’s about finding new ways to have fun and play together. 01:00:34 - Speaker 1: So is it fair to say and to conclude that the reason why we’re expressing and the desire to express is to have fun and laugh and make giggles together? 01:00:45 - Speaker 2: I will take that. I will take that. That sounds a lot better to me than filling some kind of hole in my soul slash an ego thing, but maybe it’s some of both, let’s be honest. Well, on that note, let’s wrap it there. Thanks everyone for listening. If you have feedback, you can write us on Twitter at MuseAppHQ or on email, hello@museapp.com. You can help us out by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. We, I want to thank you for working to make computing and our online gathering spaces more fun, more expressive, and perhaps help us tap that sense of belonging. It sounds like a heavy set of responsibilities when I put it that way, but I also think it’s a wide open frontier and the work you’re doing so far, I think really is promising. 01:01:33 - Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me, and I hope that we’ll get to have more fun together.