Podcast appearances and mentions of jenny blake

Jenny Blake has written a story for DC Pride 2025. Diamond has filed a motion for new owners. DC's Free Comic Book Day books will be released online.SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW US ON BLUESKY, INSTAGRAM, TIKTOK, AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT OUR SHOWS ON PATREON.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

73-year-old Jenny Blake Isabella, creator of Black Lightning, has come out as trans. Archie Comics has added Lunar as a distributor. Marvel teases Hell Hulk.SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW US ON BLUESKY, INSTAGRAM, TIKTOK, AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT OUR SHOWS ON PATREON.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week, I'm reading the seventh chapter of the Peter David penned movie novelization of the 1991 Rocketeer film.  This chapter introduces Jenny Blake, Cliff's girlfriend (called Betty in Dave Stevens' original comic as an ode to pin up icon Bettie Paige).  That part, in the film, went to Jennifer Connelly, who you may also remember from 1986's Labyrinth.   When I was a teen, I had VHS copies of Labyrinth, Howard the Duck, Some Kind of Wonderful, Sixteen Candles, and The Rocketeer taped off the TV (often the edited for TV versions and/or missing certain scenes) and those films were often on rotation on weekend mornings for me.  This section also introduces the character of Lothar, a character Dave Stevens based off character actor Rondo Hatton. As always, thanks for listening! ∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞  Signup for the mailing list for a free special edition podcast, a demo copy of The Thirteenth Hour, and access to retro 80s soundtrack! Like what you see or hear? Consider supporting the show over at Thirteenth Hour Arts on Patreon or adding to my virtual tip jar over at Ko-fi. Join the Thirteenth Hour Arts Group over on Facebook, a growing community of creative people. Have this podcast conveniently delivered to you each week on Spotify,  iTunes, Stitcher, Player FM, Tunein, and Googleplay Music. Follow The Thirteenth Hour's Instagram pages: @the13thhr for your random postings on ninjas, martial arts, archery, flips, breakdancing, fantasy art and and @the13thhr.ost for more 80s music, movies, and songs from The Thirteenth Hour books and soundtrack. Listen to Long Ago Not So Far Away, the Thirteenth Hour soundtrack online at: https://joshuablum.bandcamp.com/ or Spotify.  Join the mailing list for a digital free copy.  You can also get it on CD or tape. Website: https://13thhr.wordpress.com Book trailer: http://bit.ly/1VhJhXY Interested in reading and reviewing The Thirteenth Hour for a free book?  Just email me at writejoshuablum@gmail.com for more details! https://13thhr.wordpress.com/?p=14675

Today's author promises to give us a playbook to free our minds, time, and team for our best work. Join Mike & Cory as they consider what it looks like to run a heart-based business. Support the Show Mike's Black Friday deal details Ugmonk pen Free Time by Jenny Blake Mike's notes for Free Time […]

I've admired Jenny Blake's work from afar for years.First for her seemingly endless success with book deals, big-name podcast guests, and six-figure corporate contracts.And now for her incredibly honest accounting of how her business dissolved during the pandemic and hasn't rebounded since.So in today's episode, Jenny joins us to share the highs and lows of her 13 years of self-employment. And together we go deep into all the practical, intuitive, and creative things she's tried to keep her business going… even though nothing's really working (except maybe Substack).This conversation is a must-listen for anyone who has struggled or is struggling in business. ❤️‍

When you're in the midst of an overwhelming business challenge—your revenue plummets, your audience dries up, you can't seem to make a sale—what do you do? Award-winning author and podcaster Jenny Blake takes us through the messy middle, sharing her story of challenge, resilience and percolating without yet knowing the answer:Why her first reaction to a pandemic-induced 80% revenue drop was “I wrote a book called Pivot—I've got this.”How that reaction turned to “I couldn't fake it anymore—I couldn't pretend anymore. I didn't have any hope left…” when she lost a six-figure client.Channeling her angst and uncertainty into a popular (paid) substack as she semi-publicly worked through what to do next.The health scare that made her dramatically change how she was working.The glimmers of her next chapter—how they appeared and how she thoughtfully nurtures them.LINKSJenny Blake Substack | Free Time | LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram Rochelle Moulton Email List | LinkedIn | Twitter | InstagramBIOJenny is an author and podcaster who runs a Delightfully Tiny media company. She is the author of three award-winning books, including Free Time (Ideapress, 2022) and Pivot (Penguin/Random House, 2016). She hosts two podcasts with over two million downloads combined: the Webby-nominated Free Time for Heart-Based Business owners, and Pivot with Jenny Blake for navigating change.On her Substack Rolling in Doh, she shares personal essays about the messier parts of running a small business.She lives in New York City with her husband and her angel-in-fur-coat German shepherd Ryder.BOOK A STRATEGY CALL WITH ROCHELLE RESOURCES FOR SOLOISTSJoin the Soloist email list: helping thousands of Soloist Consultants smash through their revenue plateau.Soloist Events: in-person events for Soloists to gather, connect and learn.The Authority Code: How to Position, Monetize and Sell Your Expertise: equal parts bible, blueprint and bushido. How to think like, become—and remain—an authority.TRANSCRIPT00:00 - 00:30Jenny Blake: I have no judgment about anybody working at a job, but I get sick with that kind of work schedule or the meetings and calls. It drains me of all life, all the creative juice I have. It's just not the format. I've known that about...

Did you know that what you eat, how you work out, and how you feel in your body, can affect your breakup journey?! Join us in today's episode as Jenny (The Nutritionist) shares how food affects our body, how we can use nutrition to change our shape, how to prepare food in a way that truly satisfies us and how lifting weights improves our bodies all in relation to your breakup. Leave today's episode knowing how to create and cultivate your revenge body! Learn more about Jenny The Nutritionist: Website: https://jennythenutritionist.com/create-your-shape/  Instagram: @‌jennythenutritionist Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/create-your-shape-with-jenny-the-nutritionist/id1596687414 Take the Quiz: What are you missing to be fit, well-fed, and fully energized? (https://jennythenutritionist.com/create-your-shape/what-are-you-missing-quiz/)

Hi Friends! Although the podcast is still paused, I'm dropping into the feed this week and next with two very special conversations :) Today is a bonus episode from February for paid subscribers with Todd Sattersten, publisher and owner of Bard Press, and next week features Seth Godin and his new book, This Is Strategy. If you haven't already listened, check out part one here (episode 261) first. Todd is so committed to helping his authors succeed that he only publishes one book each year. Today he's sharing how to investigate and possibly reposition a book when a launch isn't gaining traction, his three-sentence problem statement to attract ideal readers, and why the Table of Contents and first chapter are essential parts of the marketing process.

  How to Create More Wealth, Influence, and Power   Did you know that there is a real life version of the movie character Hitch? As the world's most influential matchmaker, Paul C. Brunson has been recognized by Oprah, CNN, Good Morning America, and ABC, just to name a few. He is an expert on building influence through the power of relationships and I cannot wait for you to hear the insights that he shares in this week's episode.   Listen to the podcast HERE   While working for a nonprofit he saw countless children without the presence of both parents in their home. He knew then that he was called to cultivate more nuclear families within households. Despite the criticism that he received he pursued his curiosity in matchmaking and is now an influential mentor, entrepreneur, and TV host.   We cover a lot in this episode including: The various levels of influence How to build stronger relationships The importance of nonverbal communication Why it matters where you sit at a table.   If you are looking to grow your influence and better connect with those around you, you do NOT want to miss this episode!   Questions I Asked Paul: What are the major commonalities among the billionaires you have studied? How do we connect with influencers? What would you say to someone who feels guilty investing in themselves? Topics Discussed: The importance of limiting decisions in the morning. The top habits of billionaires. Paul's top book recommendations.   Quotes from the show: “Get a hold of your morning.” @LindaMitchell “The moment you stop investing in yourself is the moment you've written off all future dividends in your life.” @PaulCBrunson “You should go to give, not go to get.” @PaulCBrunson “Listening is everything.”  @PaulCBrunson “The more you listen the more effective you will be.”  @PaulCBrunson “You are what you fill your mind with.” @LindaMitchell “You have to follow through until the end.” @PaulCBrunson “If you want to make an impact, you have to stay focused.” @PaulCBrunson   How you can stay in touch with Paul C. Brunson: Website Facebook Twitter Instagram Youtube LinkedIn   How you can stay in touch with Linda: Website Facebook Twitter Instagram Pinterest YouTube SoundCloud   Resources Mentioned Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking by Susan Cain The Definitive Book of Body Language: The Hidden Meaning Behind People's Gestures and Expressions by Barbara and Allan Pease Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol Dweck Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One by Jenny Blake   "Proud Sponsors of the Sisterhood of S.W.E.A.T"   Essential Formulas

Welcome welcome welcome back to Off the Grid! Amelia, here. I'm popping into your pod feed today to let you know that we're kicking off season four of the show next week.

In today's episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (⁠@mattragland⁠) talks through the 10 books every creator must read, split up into three categories — Mindset, Business, and Process. Later, Tim Forkin (⁠@timforkindotcom⁠) joins for the first edition of Creator Advice — our new segment where we answer questions from our community, place ourselves in their situations, and work to solve their problems.  (0:00) — Intro (1:30) — The War of Art, by Steven Pressfield (2:45) — The Pathless Path, by Paul Millerd (4:13) — Bird by Bird, by Anne Lamott (5:48) — Perennial Seller, by Ryan Holiday (6:32) — Obviously Awesome, by April Dunford (7:11) — Dotcom Secrets, by Russell Brunson (8:18) — $100M Leads, by Alex Hormozi (9:20) — The Art and Business of Online Writing, by Nicolas Cole (10:09) — Free Time, by Jenny Blake (11:23) — Building a Second Brain, by Tiago Forte (14:42) — Creator Advice! Join the HeyCreator Community Use Automatic Evergreen to send profitable newsletters on autopilot

I recently had the pleasure of being on the Create Your Shape podcast, a show hosted by licensed nutritionist Jenny Blake that is about all things nutrition, macros and pretty much everything you'd want to know about changing your body composition and creating sustainable habits with nutrition. During our conversation we took a deep dive into what Well Prepped is all about, how the process of prepping once and cooking twice to get delicious macro friendly meals all week came about and most importantly, why it's so important to create simple systems around the things we do frequently and/or struggle to stay consistent with. Because when we set ourselves up for success, we create room and energy in other important areas of our lives. In this interview, you'll learn everything I've learned about creating simple macro friendly meals, how to maximize your time so that you're making most of your meals from home without being shackled to the kitchen and maybe even how to enjoy some of the process as well.Ideal LivingReceive $300 off your order of an Air Doctor air purifier with code MINDSETMILE at checkout.AquaTruGET 20% off any AquaTru water purifier at AquaTru.com and enter code “MINDSETMILE“ at checkout.RitualFill in key nutritional gaps with Ritual's Essential for Women 18+ multivitamin and support your foundational health. Get 20% off your first month's order at ritual.com/mindsetmile.Let's connect!DOWNLOAD MY FREE MINDSET MILE JOURNALGet your copy of Well Prepped hereFollow my personal account on Instagram: @aishazazaCheck out our Website: themindsetmile.comRate, Review, Subscribe & Share the Podcast: The Mindset Mile Podcast

Jenny Blake, ideapreneur, bestselling author, international keynote speaker, and podcast host joins me on this episode. Jenny is the co-creator of Google's acclaimed Career Guru coaching program. She's given keynotes and workshops at top companies and universities including Google, Microsoft, Stanford, Yale, and MIT. And she loves helping people move from friction to flow through smarter systems. We talk about Jenny's backstory, lessons learned through making hard decisions, going all in on a creative vision, big ideas from Free Time, and more. Get connected with Jenny: Website: https://itsfreetime.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennyblakeCA  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennyblake/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennyblakenyc  Twitter: https://twitter.com/jenny_blake  Purchase a copy of Free Time: https://www.amazon.com/Free-Time-Lose-Busywork-Business/dp/1646870662/  Leave a 5-star review with a comment on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/business-minds-coffee-chat/id1539014324  Subscribe to my Business Builder Newsletter: https://bit.ly/32y0YxJ  Want to learn how you can work with me to gain more clarity, build a rock-solid foundation for your business, and achieve the results and success you deserve? Visit http://jayscherrbusinessconsulting.com/ and schedule a 1:1 discovery coaching call. Enjoy, thanks for listening, and please share with a friend!

Ready to attract more clients through your doors to help with your weight loss programs? I'm breaking down key points to convert generic weight loss and wellness services into premium branded programs. I also share my own personal experience as a consumer and why I decided to invest in Jenny Blake's 4-month program. Get ready to embrace the power of premium branding in the dynamic world of health and wellness. Join me in our upcoming live training series where I'll show you how to craft a branded program that stands out from the crowd.    HIGHLIGHTS Marketing that got me to invest in a wellness program How to transition your weight loss shots into premium branded programs. How creating specialized programs will attract your ideal customers. The training series that will take your wellness services to the next level.   RESOURCES + LINKS Join the Live Training Program with us MESSAGE “WELLNESS” HERE Book a Strategy Call with us HERE   FOLLOW Follow Jenny: @jennythenutritionist Heather: @heatherterveen Website: heatherterveen.com  

Explore how vulnerability can be transformed into a source of strength in this engaging discussion on Bold(h)er. The episode with guest Jenny Blake and host Lisa Bragg, delves into the benefits of transparency in the professional world, showing how discussing challenges and setbacks openly can break down stigmas around failure, encouraging a culture of learning and growth among entrepreneurs and professionals.

Learn how Jenny built her nutrition business and hear her top nutrition tips for optimal health + performance for high achieving women. We cover: Jenny's story from finance career to entrepreneurship How she started her business and won her first client Mindset advice for new entrepreneurs leaving corporate Nutrition tips for high achieving women Jenny's 3-step framework for optimal health + performance Join me for a life-changing experience in Bali [⁠The Reset Retreat⁠] Have a question you'd like me to answer on a future episode? ⁠Ask me here!⁠ People tell me they learn so much from my free content over on Instagram posts & stories, join us ⁠@femaleleadershipcollective⁠ and start learning today! MY MOST DOWNLOADED RESOURCES ⬇️ How to Launch a 6-Figure Business & Escape Your 9-5 [⁠Free Guide⁠] The Female Digital Nomad's Bali Guide [⁠Free Guide⁠] 3 Steps To Get Clarity, Confidence & Finally Launch Your Online Business [⁠Free Training⁠]  WORK WITH SUZIE & FEMALE LEADERSHIP COLLECTIVE ⬇️ Launch your online business [⁠Launch Academy⁠] Scale your business to the next level [⁠Launch Academy Grads⁠]  Work 1:1 with me [⁠1:1 coaching with Suzie⁠] Join me for a life-changing experience in Bali [⁠The Reset Retreat⁠] Connect with Jenny: IG @jennythenutritionist Create Your Shape Podcast Website --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/flc/message

Join us for an enriching conversation on Podcasting to Create Connection with Chrysa Sto.  In this episode, we explore the main fears that hold people back, strategies for consistently discovering captivating guests, and how podcasts can seamlessly integrate into your broader business strategy.  Discover an often overlooked yet powerful method for fostering direct engagement with your audience while exploring the future of this dynamic medium.  Are you ready to harness the power of podcasting to cultivate genuine connections and drive positive change?  Let's dive in. In this conversation we talked about: The main fear of people starting their own podcast How to continuously find new interesting guests How a podcast fits into an overall business strategy An overlooked yet simple strategy to directly interact and engage with your listeners The future of podcasts… and much more... --- Ep 189 [00:00:00] Hello, Humane Marketers. Welcome back to the Humane Marketing Podcast, the place to be for the generation of marketers that cares. This is a show where we talk about running your business in a way that feels good to you, is aligned with your values, and also resonates with today's conscious customers because it's humane, ethical, and non pushy. I'm Sarah Zanacroce, your hippie turned business coach for quietly rebellious entrepreneurs and marketing impact pioneers. Mama bear of the humane marketing circle and renegade author of marketing like we're human and selling like we're human. If after listening to the show for a while, you're ready to move on to the next level and start implementing and would welcome a community of like minded, quietly rebellious entrepreneurs who discuss with transparency what we're doing. Works and what doesn't work in business, then we'd love to welcome you in our humane marketing circle. If you're picturing your [00:01:00] typical Facebook group, let me paint a new picture for you. This is a closed community of like minded entrepreneurs from all over the world who come together once per month in a zoom circle workshop to hold each other accountable and build their business in a sustainable way. We share with transparency and vulnerability, what works for us and what doesn't work. So that you can figure out what works for you instead of keep throwing spaghetti on the wall and seeing what sticks. Find out more at humane. marketing forward slash circle. And if you prefer one on one support from me, my humane business coaching could be just what you need. Whether it's for your marketing, sales, general business building, or help with your big idea like writing a book, I'd love to share my brain and my heart with you together with my almost 15 years business experience. experience and help you grow a sustainable business that is joyful and sustainable. If you love this [00:02:00] podcast, wait until I show you my mama bear qualities as my one on one client can find out more at humane. marketing forward slash coaching. And finally, if you are a marketing impact pioneer and would like to bring humane marketing to your organization, have a look at my offers and workshops on my website at humane. marketing. com. Dot marketing. Ep 188 intro: Hi, friends. Welcome back to another episode of the Humane Marketing Podcast. Today's conversation fits under the piece of partnership, promotion, and even people and product. So kind of fits everywhere. I'm talking to Carissa Stowe about podcasting. If you're a regular here, you know that I'm organizing these conversations around the seven Ps of the Humane Marketing Mandala. And if this is your first time here, maybe you're one of Krisa's people, [00:03:00] big warm welcome. You probably don't know what I'm talking about. What's the seven P's in Mandala? Well, you can go over to humane. marketing forward slash one page, the number one and the word page, and download your one page marketing plan with the seven P's of humane marketing. And this comes with seven email prompts to really help you reflect on these different P's. And I'm actually recording a mini. Muse episodes around these seven Ps that I will all upload to a blog post around them, and you'll find the recordings in there. And that's at humane. marketing. com forward slash seven Ps, the number seven. Letters P and S. So today's show, let me tell you a little bit more about CRISA. CRISA helps human centered, eco conscious businesses and change makers launch [00:04:00] and manage podcasts that feel authentic and sound good. She's dedicated to helping you utilize podcasting to establish credibility and brand awareness, create connections with potential clients, and foster meaningful relationships that result in increased business opportunities. In our conversation, we talked about the main fear of people starting their own podcast, how to continuously find new interesting guests, how a podcast fits into an overall business strategy. An overlooked yet simple strategy to directly interact and engage with your listeners, and you'll hear on this episode how even I overlooked it, or I had it in place, but never used it. So you'll find that out later in the episode. And we also talk about the future of podcasts and Chris's opinion on that and so much more. So [00:05:00] without further ado, let's dive in. video1496172371: Hey Chrysa, so good to have you on the Humane Marketing Podcast to talk about podcasting. And we just had like a stressful moment before getting on with the tech and my mic all of a sudden not working and we were just laughing because Right. That's exactly what we're talking about today. This show the technical issues and not just that, but that's usually where people are like, Oh, my God, all this tech that's involved, but anyways. Thank you so much for being here on the show. Thank you for having Sarah. It's really nice to connect and talk with you. Yeah. It's been a long time in the making. We've connected so long ago. It seems like, even though probably for you, the time just flew by because you had a baby and time is just different when you have a baby, right? It seems like it just flies by. Here we are. Yeah. So [00:06:00] almost probably a year after connecting for the first time. So, yeah. So today this today. Yeah. So glad to be here. Yeah. Wonderful. Well, let's just get started with the tech because I think that's you know, one of the things that a lot of entrepreneurs worry about when it comes to podcasting. But it's not the only thing we're going to be talking about on today's show, but I think it's a good way to start. So how much do we really need to worry about the tech? Is that a big deal? Mm hmm. It's always a question that comes up, especially for people who are either starting out or have some, you know issues with tech. So In the question, how much tech do you need to get started? For example, the barrier to entry is low, so you don't need much of a tech to get started. You need [00:07:00] a microphone, a decent web camera, if you don't have like, for example, A mireless or a DSLR but definitely you don't need to break the bank with a microphone and from the ease of your computer of your home you can record a podcast with of course you need a recording platform like zoom or Riverside or squad cast. There are numerous Platforms out there that you can record a show and have a good quality audio. But to get started, I would say it's pretty straightforward, easy to get started with a microphone, a camera and a recording software. Thank you. Yeah. I think that a lot of people are kind of like, oh, can relax their shoulders. So what, let's just explain what just happened when we logged on, right? So I do what I always do. I check the mic before I hit recording or before the guest even goes, gets on. And so [00:08:00] when you I let you in all of a sudden I noticed that my mic is not showing up in the, in the settings. And then I realized, well, it's not even, like, usually there's a small blue light mic that I use and I use a Rode desktop mic. And so I'm like, well, trying to plug it in to different ways, unplug it, et cetera. Because I do feel like it helps to have a good mic to record a podcast. But then we decided, okay, well, let's go ahead anyways to record it because actually I use some tools. That helped with the recording anyways after. And so I shared with you that I use a site called a phonic where I didn't upload and that kind of equalizes the sound and it usually is pretty good. So that's what just happened before we hit record. So yeah, a good mic is [00:09:00] definitely a huge plus, but like you said, you don't need to break the bank. So what do you feel like, and then you actually. Mentioned lighting because we're recording this also on YouTube. What would you say is more important, the light or the sound? Yeah, that's a really interesting question. Thanks for asking. And what I would say about that is, It's usually 50 percent of the, of the success depends on the audio. So even if you have the, like the best camera and your audio is, is, is bad, is poor things won't be you know, presented as, as as, as they should, if you had poor audio. a decent web camera or a decent camera and a decent microphone, if that makes sense. So it's 50 50, it's 50 50, but the audio part, I feel it's more important because people can, [00:10:00] can view and watch and not show crystal clear, clear, you know, image, video on their, on their, on their phone or on their computer, but they don't, they cannot hear a poor recorded audio, if that makes sense. It's really annoying to listen to something that you can't. Barely here or there's like background noise. It's yeah, you get annoyed faster. I think with your ears than with your eyes. Exactly. Yeah. And because we're talking about the podcast, which was mainly An audio experience now, certainly like the, the few years the last few years have become like video. There are so many video first podcasts out there, but at first it was originally an audio experience. So if we consider that the audio experience and the people have you. Plugged in their [00:11:00] headphones and always on the go, they need to have like a great audio and listening experience. Right. Hmm. Yeah. So let's expand a little bit further. So, okay. We know that good sound is important. What else makes a successful podcast in your opinion? Yeah I mean, this is a question that the answer is it depends because success to me, for example, might be different from what you define success to be. So it depends on, on the podcasters goals, objectives. And needs like how the podcast is contribute, contributes to, you know, for example, if those people are business owners it depends for every people is different. But I would say for. People like me or like, like for coaches, consultants, service providers, a successful podcast is [00:12:00] like the, the core of your content is, is, is a channel that you have. build your network on. You can use this channel and this like to, to show up share what you have to, to say about the topic that you're interested in or know more about. And also have this channel be, The core strategy of building your network creating relationships, connecting with people who you haven't had the time like to connect with unless you had the podcast and It depends on many different factors, but I think for business owners, podcasting is, and the podcast is a door opener. It gives you the opportunity to meet with people, connect with people that might also these people be Potential [00:13:00] clients business partners, collaborators, and all of this plays a huge role in networking and you know, growing a business through networking connections and organic ways of growing a business, if that makes sense. Yeah. So, so you basically defined what success could look like. Right. And, and, and now let's go to, well, what makes that successful podcast, however you define success. So by that, I mean, like, you know, content flow guests are a few of these ingredients, right? So you probably have listened to many, many podcasts and. You can tell, okay, this podcast is gonna make it, or this past podcast, I don't know how long it's gonna survive. Right. There's probably some indicators that tell you, yeah, [00:14:00] this is a good show or not so. Mm-Hmm, . Mm-Hmm. . So what are those? So, to that end, I mean I feel like a successful podcast is the, a podcast that can provide for the listeners, can, can share like valuable insights and actually be, Helpful resource, resource for people so that people are listeners and the audience is coming back every week or whatever frequency applies. But for me, a successful podcast is the one that helps me, educates me on something on a topic. I can listen with ease, like without having any audio issues or things like that. And I can also connect and like the guests, like how not the guests, sorry, the host and the guests. I, a podcast, successful podcast to, to my eyes is one that I like the host, how they [00:15:00] present the content how they connect with people, how, you know, their manners and all of that. So yeah, for me, it's all about. becoming a valuable, helpful resource for people so that your show, you know, has an impact on people's either lives, businesses. Yeah. There's, there's essentially, there's To two different audiences or people that are involved in the podcasting experience. I guess there's the guests, right? And then there's the listeners and as a podcast host. Well, you're creating relationships with the guests. Your stream, well, basically looking for guests to bring on to your audience and then you're also creating relationships with your [00:16:00] listeners, which I guess in a way, yes, you're kind of wanting them to. Further engage with you and maybe come into your world and then go on to your gentle sales path. That's really also part of why we're doing this. Yes, we're educating, we're inspiring, but we're doing this in a business context. And so somehow it has to do with our gentle sales path, right? So let's talk first about the guests because. That is something that while you need to make sure that you have guests lined up and, and so how, what are ways that podcast hosts are finding new, interesting guests that, you know, you see with your clients, what are you helping them with? Yeah. Now so here's the thing about finding guests, there are several podcasts, websites, matching websites out [00:17:00] there that you can go in, create an account and you know, So these podcast websites connect guests with hosts, right? So an example of this would be podcastguest. com or podmods. And this is an easy way for people who don't have another way to do it. This is an easy way to find guests. Although with my clients, when the, the last few years, I started to incorporate a more hybrid approach. What I mean by that is because of my client, because most of my clients are business owners or you know, coaches, service providers, and this kind of profession they want to somehow link the podcast into, you know, finding clients or collaborating with people in a way that is mutually beneficial. So that, that's, that's why I figured out [00:18:00] like okay, I need to find a way to. help them find guests, but not just find guests for the sake of finding a guest, bringing them, recording an episode and that's it, but in a more intentional way. Right. And so here's what I recommend for people who want to somehow link the podcast with the business. You can simply create a list of potential guests that you want to have in your show, but with in mind, you would have the people that you either admire or want to work with, the people you would love to work with. And so you are reaching out to those people. That for you feed the ideal client persona that you have and you're reaching out to those people, you're inviting them to the show. Most people will, are likely to say yes, because [00:19:00] it's a conversation, you know, it's a natural way of no, or getting to knowing to know someone or learning from them. So then when you have them on the show, either before or after the interview, or even in a follow up email that you might be sending, you can just mention a simple, gentle, genuine question like you can let them be aware of your, of the offers that you have currently, currently running your services, your website, and you can just ask, is there a new one? And That you think I should talk to, or do you know anyone that might be interested in the XYZ service that I have and is just like asking them if they know someone else, you're not trying to sell something to them. So the approach is actually at least in my opinion, humane, you know, gentle So this [00:20:00] way there is a double benefit to this. You are finding guests to fill up the list of your, of the guests of your show, but you're not just bringing you know, anyone that's might be interested. You're bringing actually people who you admire and you would want to work with. So if this conversation ends up like, if those people are interested. To in working with you, they might, this might be an opportunity for them to get to know you get to know to your, you know, to your personality approach. So either they might say yes, or they might refer you to someone else. And in fact, most of my clients. Use the podcast, utilize the podcast, the power of podcasting like this. Like most of the guests they have on the show, they send them referrals because they had a great experience. Certainly you cannot have someone on your show and [00:21:00] just have them. And then be like forget them. You need to nurture their relationship and keep engaging with them. Keep, you know, interacting with them afterwards, because we're talking about build, building real relationships, you know? So this is the way I recommend people you know, who are interested in linking the podcast to the business. To go about this. Like it's an idea worth considering because I've seen it working with many of my clients. Yeah, that's a, that's a great idea. And I think I, I was trying to remember when I started podcasting and don't remember, but it's, it's at least eight years. I think that I've been podcasting various. Podcasts, and I made the mistake of just randomly interviewing people at least in the first podcast, the, the it was called the introvert best [00:22:00] growth podcast at the same time, maybe I wouldn't call it a mistake because it was for me. Just the networking, just the relationship building, they didn't turn out to be clients, but they helped me create this huge network. Now that I do feel like I, I never need to look for a podcast guests. It's, it's like. As a podcast host, you get so many pitches from people to be on podcasts. And probably out of a hundred, I accept one because they just really did their homework really well. But the other 99, I just don't even reply anymore. Because I, I do have this big network network of people that I feel like, okay, these are aligned people. Right. But I guess what I'm not doing is I'm not like thinking, Oh, could they be clients as much [00:23:00] because I, what I was thinking when you were talking is like, well, the topic of the podcast also needs to be aligned with a topic that your, would be a fit for your clients. Right. Because for me, well, I'm bringing in. Either experts at marketing. So they're like, well, I don't need Sarah's help. Right. There are experts in their own field of marketing of some kind. Or or they are an inspiration for me. And so that's why I bring them in. So there are change makers that I look up to and they, you know, they're probably as few steps ahead of me. And so that's why I bring them. And, and that's also my reason for podcasting is really all the things I learned over the years. So yeah, but the other thing it made me think of when you shared, it was like, well, the frequency of [00:24:00] podcasting, right? When you have to, Look for for client for podcast guests per month, or some people have even 2 shows per week. And then it's a podcast. That's a lot of people. Right? And then really the relationship relationship building gets quite difficult. Difficult. And that's what happened to me when I had four guests per month. And I'm like, I can't, like, it doesn't feel human or humane anymore. It feels like it's just like this factory of people. And so that's why I really slowed it down. And now I just have two episodes per month. And one of them is also a CoLab workshop partner. So I kind of combined that. So what, what would you say about the frequency of. Of shows. So a little bit about what you shared before. First of all, I, I totally agree all of that, that I've shared in terms of the strategy. Certainly the [00:25:00] people that you're reaching out need to be aligned with, with the podcast topic that you have. But yeah, to answer your question about the frequency. I would say that everyone is doing what their best they what it's best for their, you know, for the sanity for that is that fits their schedule. And definitely there is no need to be a by, you know, there's no need doesn't mean that if you don't have a weekly show, you cannot be successful or you cannot achieve your goals, your specific goals. The frequency depends on, in my opinion, on your bandwidth, schedule, purpose, and you know, It's best, what you do, it's best to do what feels right for you, for your specific situation and for your goals. So for example, what you shared, [00:26:00] it didn't feel a line anymore when you had feedback. For guests and like, if you like a factory, so this doesn't feel right. So it's good that you made the decision to go to buy a bi weekly schedule. So, yeah, I'm totally, I totally agree with that approach for everyone that is thinking that. Maybe people will forget about me or a bi weekly show is definitely a consistent, you know, normal paced show and schedule. Hmm. That's good to know. So we talked about the hosts. Now let's talk about the listeners. What would you say there? How do we engage with listeners so that we do bring them into our world and, and maybe eventually onto our gentle sales path? Yeah. That's a, that's a very general question, right? Engaging with listeners. It's a bit hard for pod, for, [00:27:00] it was a bit hard for audio podcasters specifically because a podcast apps, at least most of them don't allow you to interact directly as we interact on social media, for example, with comments and things like that. But. Now, thanks to video podcasting and YouTube, things got easier, but I won't go there to interact like with ways using YouTube and social media, because that's, that's the normal thing. And I like to talk, you know non traditional ways of doing things. So yes, you can prompt listeners to follow your social media. Or watch on YouTube and interact with you this way. But what I would like to share with you is an overlooked strategy, an overlooked tactic that people often, you know don't talk about, which is a simple [00:28:00] form, written form on your website that you can have. If you're thinking, yeah, but the form of people you need people, I need from people to go to my website, fill out the form. Too many steps. Yes. Too many steps. But I like to have different things for people to take action on. So you can have a dedicated page on your website, for example, that might be something like yourpodcast. com slash question or slash listener And you can have a written form there for those who are interested in filling out the form and asking a question. And we can have also something like it's a plugin, a web plugin called the software that you can install called, for example, Speakpipe. There are several others where, listen, you install this plugin in this page under or below or above [00:29:00] the form, doesn't matter. And people can just press record from their phone or computer and record the voice note, which is It's powerful because if you can get people to go to this, to this page and just click record and record the question, this means like direct interaction and engagement from your listeners. And what you also are doing with this way is you are collecting real feedback data Having the chance to feature them and give back to your audience, feature them, feature the voice notes, the voice note that they recorded on your show. So yeah this is, this is really. A strategy that we, we've started implementing with some of my clients and we've seen that it's a bit tough to get listeners to go to this page. Yes. [00:30:00] But if you are, if you think of this page as your main call to action on the show and Also, if you have the chance to promote this page in other places that you might be speaking people who are interested, genuinely interested in, you know, interacting with you will definitely take the time to press one button and record a voice note. I'm laughing because I actually do have that set up on my website. And I didn't even know the link, so I had to go look it up and it's like this long link. So yeah, I need to create a permalink, like a shortened link for it. And I need to actually mention it on the podcast, right. It's not enough to just sit there on the website. But yeah have it, have it as one of the call to actions is such a good reminder because I remember like when I first installed it, I love getting those messages. It's like. [00:31:00] Oh my God, there's people listening. , . And it was great. But yeah, I need to, I need to implement that. So if you're listening, watch out. I don't have a now because the link is way too long, but I'll mention it on the, on the next episode. Definitely. So yeah look out for that link and, and please leave me a voice message. They make my kids. So yeah, great, great tips. So that's one of those ways that we can engage. One of those ways. And people, yeah, as you said, people forget, like you, you install something or you create a way and you don't even mention it on the show. So how do, do listeners, you know, are aware of this method or of this thing that you are suggesting to, for them to do. So yeah either on the show as a call to action or. You can even, you know, talk about it in interviews, workshops, whatever you have, because people will interact like trust [00:32:00] me, they do. They will do. Yeah, I love that. I was just thinking also and, and I don't have that. or anything, but I'm playing with creating a chat bot for my community based on my books and my podcasts and everything. So I train the chat bot and then becomes a resource for members of the community because they can ask questions and the bot will basically give them information, but all based on my. Right. And so I'm thinking that maybe there's some way to use a public chat bot on the podcast as well, so that they could go back into older episodes and, you know, look up things like. Who, you know, who talked about this in this topic, and then the bot would go back and give them the information on on that. I love [00:33:00] connecting AI in a very human serving way. You know, it's like. Okay. Yes, it's AI. Okay. It's not a real human, but it helps us humans. Right. Because it, it brings us that information that we're looking for. So I was just, yeah, as you were talking, like, huh, I wonder if that's a really interesting and amazing idea. I don't know of a software that does that, like directly connected, connecting to to be connected to the podcast, but I can definitely look it up and let Yeah. But I will love that. Like it's, it's really helpful to know because now the burden is on the host. For example, if you want to mention older episodes, you need to grab the link, put it in the description, mention it on, on the, on the, on that episode that you can find links or episodes mentioned in the description. Because you need to let people know, right? [00:34:00] Otherwise, how do they know? So, yeah, I love this idea because it literally, it's, it's really helpful. Yeah. Two tools that I'm using or that I'm experimenting with are one is called right sonic, and it came out with the first. Chatbots and and the other one is called creator. io. So I'm looking at those and then what you mentioned to find the links, you know, to other episodes, I'm using chat GPT for that already, but you have to have the paid version for that because otherwise it doesn't provide you with links and that's the whole point, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the whole point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is great. What about, since we're talking about, okay, we're talking about AI, but we're mainly talking about humans, so what about stats? Do I need to worry about stats? How often should I be looking at numbers or should I just forget about them? People, people [00:35:00] love looking at numbers, right? We love looking at numbers. I don't. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's, that's great because I don't either, but most people some people, not most, but some people get a little bit, you know obsessed with numbers because they do want to download, they do want the listeners, but especially in the beginning, I recommend not looking at numbers at all, because they will create more stress and overwhelm than be helpful, you know? So, certainly statistics and, and, you know, analytics are great for People who have been podcasting for a while have an established audience and they want to know where do they people, where do these people are tuning in? Like how off, how long do they listen to? Is there a point that they left off? Should I [00:36:00] you know, do something for, to make the come back and come back and things like that. But this goes Once you have an established podcast, an established audience, and you know what you're doing, you can definitely have a look, for example, once a month and either do it yourself, or if you have a manager or someone else that is helping you have a meeting and, or with yourself and, you know think of the numbers and things, think how you can refine things that you're doing in the podcast. To help increase those numbers and make them go up. But yeah, I yeah. This is my simple opinion on that. Yeah, thank you. I, yeah, I'm, I don't remember when I last looked at them, but it's, oh, I do remember. Actually, it was when I changed from four podcasts to two podcasts, because I, I did a [00:37:00] test and said, okay, I'm going to do, you know, six months of that and then see where the numbers are. And the numbers didn't change. Yeah. So I had, that's amazing. I had less. And the numbers stayed the same. So I was like, well, okay. They didn't increase obviously, but the people still. And you know, so yeah, to me it was like, okay. But then. Maybe the last point I want to address, because one of my favorite podcast hosts and a past business coach, Jenny Blake, she has two podcasts. One is called Free Time and the other one is called Pivot. And she just announced that she's going to stop both podcasts and take the pause and she's been podcasting also for a very long time. And so, the question, I guess, is like, well, And I think she [00:38:00] was, like, really going all in. And she said it like that. She was going all in and probably hoping to have sponsorship and make it the, you know, her business, basically. And so that's a complete different strategy. Right? It is if we compare, podcasts with the, you know Rogan, what's his name? Yeah. Sorry. I forgot it. Joe. Joe Rogan. No. Yeah. I think so. Sorry. Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan. Yeah. Is it Joe Rogan? Yeah. So if you compare with those big guys, then obviously, You know, we, yeah, it's not even worth getting started. Let's just say, so it really depends. I guess we're coming back to this definition of success. How, how do you define success? Do you want to make money on this podcast? Well, that's a different ball game, right? If the, the podcast itself, [00:39:00] and I'm not talking getting clients, but the podcast itself, if you want to hit sponsorship. Completely different ballgame, so that's not what we're talking about here but it's important to be realistic about this goal. And that's also one of the reasons why I reduced to two episodes, and then in a way I almost reduced it even further down because now One of the episodes is also a collab partnership that I do for the workshop. So it's kind of like two in one. And so I really just reduced the time commitment for my podcast because, you know, it's like, that's what you do. It's like, well, you, you either invest time. Or money or money. Yeah. And then you see what comes back. So yeah, do you have those kind of conversations as well? Clients to really make sure that their expectations [00:40:00] are aligned with what what it is. they can get out of this podcast. Definitely do. And those conversations usually come up from people who have been podcasting for a while, for a while that now they want to, you know, have sponsors and make a little money over all of the podcast, which is definitely but there are a lot of factors, like it's a whole nother conversation, talk about sponsorships and how you can get sponsors or even getting on a network. There are different ways that you can make money over the podcast, but I wouldn't say that a podcast can like sustain you can bring you, you know, a sustainable amount of money each month to, you To be actually sustainable to become a business or at least I, I haven't, like, I haven't worked with those big guys who, who are making money, like even just with an episode, but yeah. [00:41:00] So That is the reason I recommend going more and focusing more on the building relationships aspect and even getting clients rather than, you know, focusing on sponsorships, ads, and ads, yeah, definitely ads is, ads are helpful. I, I recommend. People to have like more of a self promoted ad self, you know ads about your offerings, promotions, or collaborations with someone. But yeah, I wouldn't recommend someone to start the podcast if the, the ultimate goal is to make money off of it or, or make it a business because it's not impossible, but it's, it's really tough and it takes a lot of time to get there. Yeah, thanks for thanks for being real. I think that's yeah, really important here. As [00:42:00] we're wrapping up 2 more questions. Where do you see the future of podcasting? And then I'll ask you the last question, but let's go there 1st. The future of podcasting. So that's really interesting. I feel like podcasting is going all in, in the video aspect. So I feel like many audio podcasts and audio shows will be You know, we'll switch to video first shows because of the recent changes of Google podcast shutting down and YouTube taking over. And it makes sense like for audio shows to become video first shows. So I feel like the interaction part and the engagement part will become more. Will become easier if we're thinking that more and more shows are becoming video shows. So, you know, [00:43:00] the, the, these difficulty that has been. So far to connect and interact with listeners will be easier, I guess. And yeah I think that more and more shows will also be able to make money off of the podcast or to, you know, To achieve their objectives, whatever they are because the features and because of the expansion, you know, of, of podcasting features and YouTube is investing so much into podcasting. So I think the industry will be will grow like, Has been growing rapidly, but the, the growth will continue to surprise us with the power of podcasting. Nice. I'm glad I'm I made that switch and I'm posting everything on YouTube as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, [00:44:00] definitely. Well, this has been really, really great. Thanks so much for, for being here and answering the questions that y'all had about podcasting. Podcasting. I always ask one last question and that is what are you grateful for today or this week, Krista? Oh, that's a wonderful question. So I'm grateful for it's not related to the business. I'm grateful for having my business and for all of my clients that I adore, but I'm most grateful for becoming a mom and, you know, getting to know baby that I just love so much and grateful for having a family, you know? So yeah. Wonderful. This is what I'm grateful for. Yeah. Is he sleeping right now? Is the baby sleeping right now? No, no, no. The baby is, is out for a walk with his dad. Yeah. Yeah. Wonderful. Well, thank you so much [00:45:00] for, for being here, Krista. It's been a pleasure. so much for having me. It's been really great, great to talk to, talk with you and talk about a little about podcasting. I hope listeners find it helpful. And yeah, it's been great. Thank you, Sarah. Thank you. And I, I will mention all the links where people can find you in the intro and the outro. Yeah. Thanks so much. Bye. Bye. Ep 188 outro: I hope you got some great value from listening to this episode and can apply it to your own business. Of course, especially if you're thinking about starting a podcast. I don't know if I really underlined it as much as I wanted to. Is that for me, my podcasts, because I did at least three really helped me not just with authority, but creating these deeper relationships with [00:46:00] people that before I just didn't have any way to connect with. So I'm super, super grateful for, for the podcast and still enjoy it. In order to find out more about Krissa and her work, you can go to krissastow. com. And if you're looking for others who think like you, then why not join us in the Humane Marketing Circle, which Krissa is also a member of. Right now, we're starting to plan our next community event, the Humane Marketing Circle Expo, an event by members, for members, and the public. And the topic this year is business with heart, putting humans first, we can't wait to invite you to a week full of our members, events, workshops, roundtables, and lots of moments to discuss and connect. And if you'd like to be part of it from the inside as a member, well, Now is the right time to join us. We'd love to have you. [00:47:00] Besides this event, we also meet at least twice per month. Once for a meetup around the business topic and once for a workshop with an aligned speaker. If you haven't found your community yet. Well, consider joining us if it feels aligned. It's much more than marketing. It's really humane business altogether, business for humans. More details at humanemarketing. com forward slash community. You find the show notes of this episode at humane. marketing forward slash H M 1 8 8. And on this beautiful page, you'll also find a series of free offers, such as the humane business manifesto and the free gentle confidence mini course. As well as my two books, Marketing Like We're Human and Selling Like We're Human. Thank you so much for listening and being part of a generation of marketers who cares for yourself, your clients, and the [00:48:00] planet, because we are change makers before we are marketers. So go be the change you want to see in the world. Speak soon.

In this episode of the Unstoppable Mom Brain Podcast, I have Jenny, the Nutritionist, for an insightful conversation on reaching fitness goals and creating the ideal body shape. I share some of my own journey of losing over 60 pounds without intense gym sessions and emphasize the importance of simplicity, joy, and strategic decisions in achieving weight loss goals. Jenny, an expert in nutrition for women who lift weights, shares her own journey and highlights the significance of science-based strategies in building muscle and decreasing body fat. Together, we explore the common roadblocks individuals face when striving for fitness goals and provide valuable insights into navigating strategies for sustainable results. Jenny Blake, CEO of Jenny the Nutritionist, is a Licensed Nutritionist who helps professional ladies who lift weights change their body composition by being well-fed and properly fueled. As a lifelong athlete, a Nationally Qualified Bikini competitor, with a background in competitive Crossfit, and one who is always learning, she's mastered the strategies of nutrition to efficiently build muscle, decrease body fat, and gain optimal health. She's helped hundreds of ladies build their shape, become educated of the Nutrition Strategy, and create a Nutrition Routine to serve them long-term in her program, Create Your Shape.   Resources:  Get full show notes and more at: https://www.theunstoppablemombrain.com/105 If this podcast resonates with you, get my Free 5 Minutes Per Day Weight Loss Mini-Course over at: https://www.theunstoppablemombrain.com/email  Jenny's Links:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennythenutritionist/  Website: http://jennythenutritionist.com/create-your-shape  Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/create-your-shape-with-jenny-the-nutritionist/id1596687414 

Today, we're taking a break from business to bring you a conversation with Jenny Blake: my nutritionist. Jenny has helped me stack on muscle, lose body fat, and growing the actual physique that I want and she's here to share how to set yourself up for more energy, better sleep, and giving your body what it needs even though you're busy AF.   If you want to live the best life, you need your physical health. Jenny and I discuss the value of proper nutrition, what it takes to create the body shape you really want, the importance of nutrition, movement, and sleep, and the simple lifestyle changes you can make right now to boost your energy and take care of your body.   Get full show notes and more information here: https://www.hellyescoachingonline.com/151

If you're going through a lot of change or uncertainty in your life, this episode will inspire you.-Nataly speaks with Jenny Blake, career strategist and best-selling author of several books, including Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One.-Nataly and Jenny talk about how to handle career change, a failure of a business, and getting unstuck when you're unsure about your next path.-You'll learn about:The role of serendipity and how to create more serendipity in your own lifeHow to run small experiments to find your next pathA new definition of success and how it can inspire you to embrace more of your different dimensions (that may not have anything to do with work!)The power of surrender and allowing in helping you move through uncertainty and change-And much more!-To learn more about Jenny and her work, please visit: https://www.pivotmethod.com/-You can also find her and her awesome writing on Substack: https://substack.com/@jennyblake-**REGISTER FOR AWESOME HUMAN PODCAST LIVE**Click the link below to register to attend our live taping of The Awesome Human Podcast on Zoom. -You'll be able to ask question, connect with other Awesome Humans, and get a link to the video recording!-https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_k8wilMrgQYu9Qa_9k0dilw

In this episode, we dive into the world of nutrition with renowned nutritionist Jenny Blake. I sit down with Jenny to explore the intricate details of macros, reverse dieting and other vital aspects of nutrition that may sound too complex from just the outside, but she breaks them down in a way everyone can understand. Jenny shares her expertise on how understanding macros - proteins, carbohydrates and fats - can empower individuals to make informed dietary choices and make body compositions that actually last. She discusses the importance of striking a balance between these macronutrients to achieve optimal health and fitness goals. Through this episode you'll gain valuable insights into crafting sustainable nutrition and lifestyle changes by learning about the evidence-based science of macros. Land RoverLearn more about Land Rover's Defender series at Landroverusa.com/defender.Cozy EarthGet 35% off your entire online order at Cozyearth.com and use code "MINDSETMILE" at checkout.Ideal LivingReceive $300 off your order of an Air Doctor air purifier with code MINDSETMILE at checkout.--Let's connect!DOWNLOAD MY FREE MINDSET MILE JOURNALGet your copy of Well Prepped hereFollow my personal account on Instagram: @aishazazaCheck out our Website: themindsetmile.comRate, Review, Subscribe & Share the Podcast: The Mindset Mile Podcast

As I round the corner into this ninth year of podcasting and after over 700 episodes, today I'm announcing a pause for both shows. Listen in to hear what factors helped me reach this decision across time, money, energy, depressing industry articles, the pace of both shows' growth, and mix of additional business factors that make this an important moment to pause and regroup. You might also appreciate the even deeper dive with my longtime friend (and first coach) Adrian Klaphaak in Pivot episode 360:

As I round the corner into this ninth year of podcasting and after over 700 episodes, today I'm announcing a pause for both shows. Listen in to hear what factors helped me reach this decision across time, money, energy, depressing industry articles, the pace of both shows' growth, and mix of additional business factors that make this an important moment to pause and regroup. You might also appreciate the even deeper dive with my longtime friend (and first coach) Adrian Klaphaak in Pivot episode 360:

Who do you trust when you're in business for yourself? How do you know whom to trust? Not to mention trusting the market – but how exactly? That was the main topic in my latest crossover episode with Jenny Blake, author of Free Time, host of the Free Time Podcast, and one of my favorite conversation partners. And if you like what you hear, we'd love it if you write a review, subscribe here and sign up for Quick Tips from Marketing Mentor.

Are you considering making a pivot in life or business? Do you want to create more time freedom to travel and focus on the things you love? Jenny Blake is a podcaster and author of three award-winning books, including Pivot and Free Time, and the newsletters #PivotList and Time Well Spent. After working at Google for five years in coaching and career development, she now utilizes her skillset to help people move from friction to flow and make changes in their lives that give them more freedom.  This episode is packed with advice on tackling pivots from both a mindset and practical perspective to create a life that aligns with your goals and values. Jenny shares how to identify when it's time to pivot, what you can do to start taking action without all of the pressure, how to balance listening to your intuition with making “smart decisions,” and much more. What pivots do you want to make? I'd love to hear your thoughts and hope you'll share them by sending me an audio message. Tune In To Learn: Her 51/49 approach to taking action in spite of fear Why she left Google to create a location-independent business How to identify when it's time for a pivot and why it's okay not to have everything figured out Her four-stage process to pivoting and why you should be piloting your life  The importance of determining your values and why you should be auditing your time How to tap into your intuition and balance that with practicalities when making decisions How to optimize your time for freedom while still moving your business forward Why she chooses to lean on trust and intuition in her business instead of rigid goals Advice for hitting pause on your career or taking a gap year How to identify the deeper work and let go of what is eating up your time  And so much more Resources: Subscribe to our FREE newsletter Grab a copy of Jenny's book Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One Find Jenny's newsletters and podcasts on Substack Learn more about Free Time Free Time podcast on Apple and Spotify Pivot podcast on Apple and Spotify Listen to her episode, Sabbatical Planning with DJ DiDonna Outrageous Openness by Tosha Silver The Intuitive Way by Penney Peirce Want More? Optimizing For Freedom with Nat Eliason Building, Growing, and Enjoying a Successful 7-Figure Lifestyle Business with Dan Andrews from Tropical MBA Potpourri Prat (Lifestyle Business, Experimenting and Travel Fears) with Matt Giovanisci

In this episode, I'm joined by the wonderful Jenny Blake of Jenny the Nutritionist. She shares her own struggles trying her hardest to see the results from her time in the gym, yet feeling like she had nothing to show for it. She eventually discovered the missing piece of the puzzle, which led to becoming a nationally qualified bikini competitor and a coach for professional women who lift weights and want to change their shape! She's helped hundreds of women inside her signature program, Create Your Shape, and she shares the details of her mistakes AND triumphs in this episode.We cover:The biggest mistakes she made early on in her fitness career.The most common mistake she sees clients make when they come to her.What she got wrong about exercise.The difference between underfueling and under-eating.The big topic she doesn't see discussed enough in the fitness industry.And so much more!Resources mentioned:Shoe Dog by Phil KnightFOLLOW JENNYJenny's Instagram @jennythenutritionist Create Your ShapeCreate Your Shape with Jenny the Nutritionist PodcastFeedback? Questions? Comments? Head on over to Instagram and let me know in my DMs!  FREE TRAINING4 Step Framework to Stop Obsessing about FoodCOURSESFood Freedom EvolutionHealthy Habit Foundations CourseMuscle Mass Academy—mini-course & programming!Maintenance MasterclassFollow me on Tiktok: @jessiemgoldenSubscribe to my Youtube channel

I love the opportunity to have had Dr. Christin Roberson as a guest on Unstoppable Mindset. Christin, like others who we all have met, was born into a military family and spent much of her youth traveling from one place to another. Christin loved the travels and the experiences. Her youth gave her a broad view of people which helped her later as she began a career in higher education. More important, as she will tell us, she learned over the past seven years, that she had strengths that not only served her well in her original career, but that also caused her to “pivot” into a coaching and entrepreneurial business. Today she uses her strengths to help others who are considering a career change. She also uses her skills and knowledge to help her clients learn about and better utilize their own strengths. Often, as she will describe, people may not even recognize their individual strengths and gifts, but once they do and embrace them these people really can move on and advance. Christin is just completing a course about strengths and how you can use your gifts. We have information about the course in the notes. I hope you find this episode timely and valuable. About the Guest: Dr. Christin L. Roberson, EdD, is a Gallup Certified Strengths Coach who employs her top five strengths—Relator, Learner, Achiever, Developer, and Deliberative—by developing genuine relationships with others, learning about their talents, helping them reach new levels of productivity, and teaching others how to utilize their strengths to make sound decisions in their personal and professional pursuits. She recently pivoted from a 15+ years career in higher education into recruiting in the tech industry and now provides full-time career services. Her educational background includes a Doctorate in Higher Education Leadership from Azusa Pacific University, a Master's in Education in Educational Organization and Leadership with a concentration in Higher Education from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Alverno College.  Dr. Roberson has also been featured as a guest on Gallup's podcast, Called to Coach, presented at the 2017 CliftonStrengths Summit, and completed Strengths Certification Training in Higher Education at Azusa Pacific University. Ways to connect with Rob: The Career Doc Website,  Instagram,  LinkedIn,  Facebook About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/   https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes **Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i  capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.  **Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Well, hi, welcome to another episode of unstoppable mindset where inclusion diversity in the unexpected meet. I love that unexpected part. It makes it so much fun. Then today, we get to chat with Christin Roberson. She is a certified Gallup strengths coach, we're going to learn about that. She's spent a lot of time in higher education. And now we'll she'll tell you what she does now as we get to it. And obviously is had what I would say is a fascinating life, and a life we're talking about, which is how we got her to come on unstoppable mindset. So, Kristen, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're glad you're here. **Christin Roberson ** 01:58 Thank you for having me. I'm happy to be here. **Michael Hingson ** 02:01 Well, why don't we start? It's always fun to why don't you tell us a little about kind of the early Christin, you know, where, where you came from growing up, and any of those good kinds of things that you think would be relevant for us to know? **Christin Roberson ** 02:16 Well, I was born on November 8, no, I won't go that far. **Michael Hingson ** 02:20 And you had to walk 12 miles when you were 12 years old, just to return three cents to someone. Right? Yeah. Yeah, that was me. That was me. Yeah. It wasn't like and it was you? Yeah. **Christin Roberson ** 02:32 I think probably the best way to start is that I'm an Army brat. So life was very different. And of growing up. My dad was in the army for 2020 plus years or so. And so my whole life was basically moving every three years. And so change was constant. Change was constant, friends were always new. So I learned how to be pretty resilient and adjust fairly quickly. At an early age, it got harder as I got older, but early Christin moved a lot. And so I think it probably characterizes why I moved so much when I was younger, because I enjoyed it. I think a lot of my earlier experiences too, were around education, I always wanted to be in the field of education wanted to be a teacher initially. And then a counselor and I started working in higher education and got the bug and started working in housing and thought it would be a good idea to live and work with college students. Which is can be good and bad. But it was a wonderful experience that really taught me a lot about building community, you know, handling a lot of tough decisions and problem solving and really helping others grow because college students are, you know, very much in a developmental phase in their life, and to be kind of a part of them figuring themselves out through the good and the bad, was something that I feel like I really enjoyed. And I think kind of followed me on to my further career is to always be in some type of helping profession, where I'm helping other people kind of figure things out, and kind of shaped what they want their life to be. So I hope that answers your question. **Michael Hingson ** 04:13 My wife was a teacher for 10 years, she loved elementary school. And she said she really loved third grade, because the kids in third grade were still really developing attitudes and so on. And she said, by the time they got to even sixth and seventh grade, much less than high school, it was harder to teach them and to really have an influence on their lives. Yet at the same time, I hear a number of people say exactly what you said about college that and I think we all of us who've been to college would would mostly agree that even when you go to college, you're you're still really looking for yourself. So how does that correlate with like what my wife felt about third graders? **Christin Roberson ** 04:50 Yeah, well, there's from our own kind of study from higher ed like there's these different phases. And so I think there's different phases in life up to development. And you know, thinking about your wife, a lot of that development is not just kind of figuring out who you are figuring out how to walk, how to do very basic foundational things to learn as just being a person, but I think when you get to college, they formed a lot of that already. So it's kind of helping them figure out, or at least in my experience, a lot of what's right and what's wrong. And how to exist in a world where there are a lot of temptations and making the best decisions for yourself. So it's kind of some of those more moral, maybe foundational pieces that you kind of get to, you help them shape, maybe some other, you know, foundational things, too, if that's something that they didn't get growing up, which was the case with a lot of students, depending on how they grew up. But a lot of times, a lot of the morality issue will just like, Okay, why did why did you think it was a good idea to do that much drinking, and I found you on the grass outside of my building passed out? Let's talk about making good decisions. So it helped with a lot of a lot of that. Those are a lot of the conversation. **Michael Hingson ** 06:04 Did anybody ever say to you, though, well, you know, I feel sorry for people who don't drink because then they get up in the morning. That's as good as they're gonna feel for the rest of the day. I listen to too much Dean Martin, what can I tell? **Christin Roberson ** 06:18 Two great lines ever said that before I've gotten cussed out before by students who weren't drunk, but nobody ever said that before. **Michael Hingson ** 06:25 I was at the University of California, Irvine, and I think it was in my senior year I was living on campus apartment, because I kind of outgrew living in a dorm. by that. I mean, I had too many Braille books wouldn't all fit in a dorm room. So they let me live in a campus apartment. I had two roommates, who actually moved with me from my dorm. And one of them decided one night to drink. He hadn't done it before. We had those 12 or 16 ounce wienerschnitzel glasses, Coke glasses, and he started drinking screwdrivers. And the first one was maybe about a quarter to a third full of vodka and the rest was orange juice. Then the next one was half vodka. And the next was basically all vodka by five in the morning. He was ill horrible, convinced me never to want to get drunk and I never have I don't never had a desire to do that. So no, yeah, I I have had a couple of times that I did drink something that someone gave me and said it's very strong. Drink it slow. I did over about an hour and I still had a little bit of a lightheadedness and I said if that's the way drinkin starts, forget it. So I wasn't imperative to the point where I couldn't move around and walk and all that but I understand what what alcohol can do. And I saw it with with my roommate and what happened to him. He was bad for a while he was just not not doing well in the bathroom. It was one of those horrible things. **Christin Roberson ** 08:10 There was some caution tape over that door. **Michael Hingson ** 08:12 Well, it was all about. Yeah. And you could hear you know, and we were all helping him. We supported him. But he was just doing a lot of throwing up to get it all out of his system. But it's no fun. Not at all. Drink it up. 1216 ounce glass of pure vodka. Yeah. So that's bound to happen. Yeah, it's bound to happen. But I hear what you're saying. I think there's a there's a it's like anything College offers so many opportunities to learn, and as also a matter of being open enough to take advantage of them and really learn too, isn't it? **Christin Roberson ** 08:50 Absolutely. **Michael Hingson ** 08:52 So people just can grow. I really enjoyed college life. I enjoyed dorm life. And then when we moved to the apartment, which we as I say we had to do, because I needed the space for Braille books. Getting a master's in physics, Braille takes up a lot of space and physics. But nevertheless, it was it was fun and still participated in campus activity. So it was very enjoyable. So you what was your Bachelor's in **Christin Roberson ** 09:21 my bachelor's in psychology? The plan was to be a clinical psychologist, mainly working with with young people. And then that went away. When I started working in higher ed, I realized I enjoy working with college students and still got to use that psychology degree every single **Michael Hingson ** 09:39 day. So what were you doing? What was your job in higher ed when you started? How long ago was that, by the way? **Christin Roberson ** 09:45 Um, well, I probably have about 15 years of experience working in higher education. It started in housing. So in the dormitories most people will call it so it was basically running a bit building building manager of sorts. And so anything that was happening, you know, with the building of like, anywhere from two to 400 students packed in the building. I would oversee, you know, the resident, you know, the RAS and supervise them and plant programs and all that. And then most recently, it was working in what did I do? First year programs. So a lot of it was around programs and work that we were doing with incoming freshmen. So I oversaw a course the introductory course that every freshman basically had to take, and kind of the design of it hiring, you know, of staff and managing it. So yeah, it was a lot of work. But it was, it was very enjoyable to kind of see the results and the fruit of your labor to see students growing and kind of learning from it. **Michael Hingson ** 10:51 I started as a freshman at UC Irvine in the fall of 1968. I sure wonder, and I'm sure that there is a lot that's changed. But I just wonder how it's all changed and how the student programs go. I've had the pleasure of being invited to speak at various colleges, including it some freshman orientation programs over the past several years and see a lot of the difference. But it's, it certainly has to have changed a lot in well for me now. 55 years. **Christin Roberson ** 11:21 Oh, gosh, it's very different. It's so different. **Michael Hingson ** 11:27 But but it's important to keep up with that. **Christin Roberson ** 11:30 It is and but some of it is just scary, because there's so much to keep up with. But yeah, me and a friend of mine, we always kind of talk about, you know, some of those things where we're like, did we have to deal with this when we were younger, you know, with some of the online bullying and having to keep up with social social media so big and we're like, we didn't have that. I didn't have a cell phone in high school. I didn't get one till I was maybe like, I don't know, a sophomore in college. So Right. My life did not revolve around social media or technology. It was like, Okay, here's my phone book that has the numbers, and it's a call people. But it's so so different now. And everything is so out there and live, you know everything kind of instantly. And it's just like, that is a lot. **Michael Hingson ** 12:16 Yeah, I'm not totally sure. It's all a good thing to have such interesting gratification and have such ready communications, especially when a lot of times, factually changes by the time the real truth comes out. I mean, I've watched the news and I see a news headline about one thing or another. And within a day or two, it changes because it really wasn't quite the way it was originally reported. And nobody does anything to regulate that or, or at least do some fact checking before they put the news out. And I don't mean that in a negative political way. I just mean in a, in a factual way about everything that comes out. Oh, **Christin Roberson ** 12:52 my goodness, I completely agree. It's like, can we wait until we get all the information? Before we say that this is what happened? Or what they did? Yeah. You know, **Michael Hingson ** 13:02 you hear about a plane crash, and you hear some things and oh, well, it changes in a day or so well, updated information. Well, you didn't really have information before you had what, what were rumors or what one person said. And we're teaching ourselves that we got to have this information all the time, and that we don't really look at getting accurate information, necessarily. It's more important just to have something and that's crazy. **Christin Roberson ** 13:30 Yeah, it's the breaking news, like CNN effect was breaking news. Something happened, we're not sure what it is. But we're gonna keep saying that for the next hour, or **Michael Hingson ** 13:38 two or three. Right? And, and I remember, well, one example that comes to mind is I was here in July of 2019. And I was about to go to the convention of the National Federation of the Blind, I was gonna go over on a Friday. And the day before, on Thursday, we had an earthquake, and it was a pretty substantive earthquake, it was six point something which, and it was on a fault that really we hadn't had much stuff on before. The epicenter was about 100 miles north and east of us. But the media came on and started talking about it. And every five minutes, they say the same old thing over and over again, rather than you said it, don't keep focusing on this because you're not adding any value. Until you get more information. Of course, then they eventually did. Dr. Lucy Jones at Cal Tech came on and started discussing more about it and that's great, but for an hour or more, they just had all of the same old stuff time and time again, it's just crazy. No, **Christin Roberson ** 14:49 a lot of times like they're, you know, forecast and like I feel like because I lived in California for a time and so, you know, we get an earthquake and then that would be the discussion of the big one. That's kind of the norm Ridge, it's coming in, here's what it could look like. And it's like this doomsday prophecy. And it's just like, Okay, this happens all the time in California. We know something's coming. But do you have to talk about it now? And we're still trying to recover from one? Yeah. **Michael Hingson ** 15:15 Yeah. And the big one. Yeah, that's, well, if it comes, it comes. But you know, so So just go ahead and continue to scare people. Right? Yeah. It makes for an interesting world. But for college students, that is the world that they live in now. And it I, I've got to believe, especially even more than college kids being a little kid, it's gotta be tough, because there's so much stuff that's being thrown at you all the time. And probably a lot of parents don't know how to really filter that or deal with it. Yeah, **Christin Roberson ** 15:50 I cannot imagine being a parent. You know, right. Now, I know, it wasn't easy, you know, necessarily for anybody's parents growing up, because things were changing and growing all the time. But things move at a super fast pace now of learning and having to figure things out. And just as a parent trying to be aware of like, okay, what are these words mean? Or if I see this, what does this mean? Oh, that's a code for this. Okay. That's the code for dress. Oh, oh, my gosh, it's so overwhelming. **Michael Hingson ** 16:22 Yeah. And, and it's just thrown at you all the time, because we have such instant communications or instant gratification about communications. And I don't mind instant communications. But again, gee, let's make sure we have it right a little bit part of the at least part of the time. **Christin Roberson ** 16:43 And I think a lot of young people like, you know, especially in college is kind of this invincibility, like they haven't yet grappled with the fact that you know, something can happen to you, you're not invincible, because you're young. And a lot of them make really poor decisions and kind of put it out there for everybody to see. And don't remember when you put it out there, it's there forever. So I ended up talking to those students from a career perspective to say you might want to do a little research on the internet of what pops up when you type in your name, because that party that you went to, and 97 is still out there, and an employer can see that. So those are always fun conversations. **Michael Hingson ** 17:22 Well, and we see it even with with politicians who get bombed by something that happened 20 and 25 years ago, and they're being held responsible, just like it happened yesterday. And it's that really relevant. We have interesting standards we live by, don't we? **Christin Roberson ** 17:40 Oh, my goodness, yeah, that happened 20 years ago, they were a completely different person. **Michael Hingson ** 17:45 Yeah. And it's crazy that, that you still have to, but you're right, it's there. And you have to deal with it at some point and, and address it, because everything goes out on the web today. And a lot of things are dredged up, just because there were somewhere and so somebody digitized it, and it's out there on the web again. **Christin Roberson ** 18:07 Just like, you know, entertainment, it can blow up into something else, I could have made a statement that, you know, I don't eat burgers anymore, I'm trying to look into my oh my gosh, she hates animals. She thinks like, she's this and this and that. And it's like, that's not what I said, I just said, I made the personal decision not to eat meat, you know, beef or something. And they can blow it up into something where it's like, that's, that's not at all what I was trying to communicate. When **Michael Hingson ** 18:31 I worked at Guide Dogs for the Blind. One day, I went in and delivered a speech. And I was describing what a guide dog does, as opposed to what a person does. And I've said that a guide dog doesn't guide doesn't lead the guide. Their job is to make sure that we walk safely. And my job is to give commands and say where we want to go. And I said another way you could look at it is that I'm the brains of the outfit, not the dog and someone called Guide Dogs for the Blind the next day. And they said they heard about this speech that Mike Hanson gave, and he said that dogs don't have brains. Oh, my goodness. Which is not what I said at all, **Christin Roberson ** 19:12 at all. But you know, they wanted to they **Michael Hingson ** 19:16 heard what they wanted to hear, which is unfortunate. How do students react when you have those conversations with them about Be careful about what you put out there and stuff? **Christin Roberson ** 19:26 You know, some of them will kind of just give the lip service, you know, yeah, kind of know what you mean. And then it's not until they they're in my office for like the second or third time which just happened. And we're like, okay, I remember when I told you you've done this a couple of times. how's this working out with you hanging out with this group of people because you're trying to be, you know, popular, but you are. You're pre med. How do you think that's really going to work out for you? When they you know, look at your record, your grades are poor because you've done these other you have to kind of give them like the big picture from the small steaming Really minut detail to them. The consequences of that can be far, you know, long lasting than you just being in my office and me giving you, you know, a task to do or whatever or you being on probation. So I think that there comes like, some surprised, but also, there's still a lot of times the invincibility piece like, Oh, it'll be fine. Nobody cares about that. So they don't really get it until it happens. It happens. Yeah, unfortunately. **Michael Hingson ** 20:29 Yeah. It's like, so many things, people fear, the whole concept of blindness, partly because we emphasize eyesight so much. But there's also that thing in the back of their mind, this could happen to me what a horrible thing that would be rather than recognizing is just another way of learning to use the gifts that you have eyesight is not the only game in town. But that's not what people want to hear and what they want to believe. So it also makes for a great challenge. **Christin Roberson ** 21:00 Whoo. Yeah, there's definitely a focus on a very specific kind of person or lifestyle. And anything outside of that. It's just like, oh, my gosh, life must be so hard for you. And I'm like, it's probably hard for you to. **Michael Hingson ** 21:15 Yeah, we all have. We all have things that we deal with. And people today say, well, you're differently abled. And I say how? Well you're blind. How does that make me differently abled, the ability is the same. It's the tools that I may use to get there. But you know, I feel sorry for you. Because you have to turn the lights on tonight, you're screwing up the whole carbon footprint by having to run all this electricity, I don't need to do that. **Christin Roberson ** 21:40 I never thought of it in that way. **Michael Hingson ** 21:43 Thomas Edison invented the electric light bulb is a reasonable accommodation for light dependent people who can't function in the dark. Which is another way of saying you have a disability too. It's just that technology has mostly covered it up. But seriously, it doesn't change the fact that it's there. It's true. **Christin Roberson ** 22:00 I could not agree more. **Michael Hingson ** 22:02 So well. So you at some point decided to move away from doing higher education college stuff, and you had been doing it 15 years? What? What caused you to go off and go in a different direction? **Christin Roberson ** 22:15 Yeah, well, I think, one, I really had no desire to move up in the field, because I had seen what kind of the C suite looked like, at several different institutions. And a lot of times they have far less contact with students. And I really liked working one on one. But I always chose positions that were student facing where I was planning programs, or supervising them or doing something that was very much focused on the student experience. And I realized, like, okay, we can stay in this kind of, you know, assistant director or coordinator position, forever, or we can decide that maybe we want to try and do something else. I think, you know, higher ed is also very slow to change. And a lot of ways and I think that's why so many have closed and not even just because of COVID was because I think higher education thinks it's invincible to everybody's always going to go to college. And it's like, no, the price tag gets higher and higher every year, people are finding something different to do that is more economical, and advantageous to them than spending four years where you can learn that maybe in like 18 months and an online program and be out working. And so I think that's been a reckoning for higher ed. And so knowing that information, in addition to just a lot of the toxicity that I experienced, made it made it that I'm like, Okay, let's, let's look at something else. Let's look at our strengths. Let's look at what we actually enjoy about this work and how it applies to other industries. And so I took a look at it, and started just looking for jobs. And I'm like, what jobs are interesting to me, that aren't higher at focus. And that's where I kind of started seeing the pattern around things like, you know, human resources, or, you know, people management and things of that nature, which I had done before a long time ago. But I think it was really assessing the current situation, whether it aligned with my values and what I want it and I discovered that it wasn't and it was time to do something different. **Michael Hingson ** 24:24 So what did you end up pivoting to? As you would put it, and how long ago was that? Yeah, **Christin Roberson ** 24:32 so it actually wasn't long ago. And it felt like a very quick pivot. So I learned that sometimes you have to So I left my institution, I ended up taking a contract job, which was not the plan to not have health insurance immediately. But the pay was good enough that I could afford you know my own. So I ended up taking a position in the tech industry where Working in recruiting for a program that oversaw apprenticeships, for the organization, and then some kind of early career programming so long ago. Oh, gosh, that was maybe just like, a year or two ago. Oh, gosh. So **Michael Hingson ** 25:15 coming out of COVID. **Christin Roberson ** 25:17 Yeah, coming out of COVID. And so I worked remotely, you know, it was based in, you know, the Bay Area. And so every now and then I got to travel, you know, and the tech, the tech sector, which a lot of my friends also pivoted into, and they were kind of the inspiration before me, I saw them pivoting into that area, and they were, you know, making way more money than any of us could have ever dreamed and education. The place that I worked at had like, unlimited vacation, and it was just like, how does that work? Do you never have to work? Like, do you? I'm taking off six months, and I'll be back, you know, in the fall. But it became this really interesting concept that there was more out there. And so sadly, I was a contract for six months. And then they converted me to full time. And then I want to say the day after my birthday, I got laid off. It was a quick process. It was like makes a lot of sense. And so well. But I think again, like nobody saw what was coming, or was maybe not as prepared as they thought they were for, you know what happened economically. And even a company like mine that had never done layoffs, had to deal with kind of that harsh reality. And I knew it was coming, you know, I was one of the you know, let you know, a newer hire and sounds like I get it. I'm low on the totem pole. But the day after my birthday. **Michael Hingson ** 26:45 Yes, a little rude. Yeah, I **Christin Roberson ** 26:47 was on vacation at the time. It was, it was difficult. It was a rough vacation. **Michael Hingson ** 26:54 Yeah, I, I've been there and and had similar kinds of situations not right after my birthday. But I've been in situations where I was working for a company, actually in 2019. And I was going to go deliver a speech in Northern California, and then we were going to take a week off. But the morning that I was to travel, I was notified that well, we've spent too much money, we have to lay some people off, and you're one of them. Well, thanks, wow, which ended the vacation idea, but we still went up into the speech because I had made that commitment and it brought in some money. But still, it is it is never fun. So if your plans change, and sometimes you just don't have control over those changes happening. **Christin Roberson ** 27:48 It's unfortunate, like you have to have a plan B through Z is especially in this day and age where it's like really, and truly anything can happen. I've, I've worked with a couple clients now where they're on like their third layoff. And it's just like, wow, and you just kind of keep going out there. Because you don't, you don't know you have to work you have to provide for your family, you know, you have a specialization in that area. And you just have to kind of keep going out and trying. But I think that it's it's, it's heavy, it's heavy to kind of deal with that. And you start to, you know, maybe doubt your abilities and your strengths in that. And so a lot of my work with with folks has been kind of encouraging and affirming them in their abilities that you've been laid off has nothing to do with you as a person or your skill set. This is a business decision. **Michael Hingson ** 28:39 Which may or may not be right, but still it is true. **Christin Roberson ** 28:41 Right? But reframing it I think sometimes kind of helps and kind of helping them focus on okay, but you still have this set of skills. You know, Liam Neeson style have a specific set of skills to do a certain thing. And kind of helping them, you know, point that in the right direction. **Michael Hingson ** 29:01 So, it happened to you and then what did you do? **Christin Roberson ** 29:05 Yeah, so I had already had like, a lot of travel plans. So I ended up doing a lot of traveling probably because it was also basically December, so it was holidays, too. So I was traveling, so I decided I'm gonna keep my travel, I'm gonna still go ahead and have fun and enjoy it. And then we'll come back to the reality when the holidays are over. And so I started again, kind of looking at jobs and seeing like, what is interesting to me, do I want to go back into higher education because that is where, you know, my skill set is predominant, or do we want to give this a go and it's something else? Now while I was working the job in tech, I was getting a lot of people reaching out to me that worked in higher education. And they were like, Well, how did you do that? How did you pivot? And so I started having conversations with people people started asking for help with their resumes. And, you know, okay, how do you what's the interview process? Like? How do you negotiate? And so I started having these conversations, it started kind of a very beta test of a coaching of a coaching job. And so I didn't charge anything at the time, I just asked people to give me a LinkedIn recommendation, if they, you know, were happy with my work. And so after the layoff, I, you know, I had an interview somewhere, it didn't, you know, turn out the way that I hoped, and I decided, okay, all roads seem to point towards this career coaching, because that is what I'm getting the most attention for. And it's something that I actually really enjoyed. So I just started fine tuning what that looked like, and okay, I need a website, I need this and this and that. And started kind of formulating, what would be, you know, the career doc? **Michael Hingson ** 30:54 So you started your own business? **Christin Roberson ** 30:57 I did. I did. Great. Are you? **Michael Hingson ** 31:00 And are you having fun? Sunday's **Christin Roberson ** 31:06 you know, overwhelmingly, it's what's fun is I absolutely love the work of coach, I love coaching. What is not so fun is a lot of the logistics around it, it's very expensive. And a lot of the advice they say and you know, in the beginning is to spend as little amount, you know, money, but the more you do spend, the better. Things kind of get, and the more attractive people might be to your to your product. And there were just some things I couldn't handle. So I think that's the part that kind of gets this isn't fun to have to, you know, buy another thing or this rate is going up. But I'd love, love, love just the one on one nature of helping people kind of figuring out what to do next, or what to do different. **Michael Hingson ** 31:49 Do you get support? Do you get people to help you with some of the logistical things and things that you don't really like to do? So do you have any kind of staffer help to do any of that? **Christin Roberson ** 32:00 I do. Probably like in the last month or two? Yeah. Someone I actually knew from my higher ed days had a side business of basically doing administrative work. And so I reached out to her, and we kind of did a trial run of sorts. And so she handles all the admin stuff, kind of going through my overflowing inbox and making sure you know, people get rescheduled. And then I ended up hiring somebody to do marketing, because marketing is everything. And I just did not have time or capacity or really allowed the expertise to do the things that she can do. So, and then also, I'm going to be launching a course soon on Route Career Discovery. And I hired a course designer to help with that. And so because I realized, like, I can't do this on my own. Because one, it's overwhelming, but there's also people who have strengths in these areas that I don't have, and I think I need their help. **Michael Hingson ** 33:00 Well, as you go toward doing your course and so on, I, I would assume you've had enough time at doing this, that you realize that it's okay to charge not overly so but to charge and charge a decent fee for what you do because you're worth it. Yeah, it's, **Christin Roberson ** 33:19 it's difficult. But you do have to do it. A lot **Michael Hingson ** 33:24 of people will say, well, but how do I know people will pay $1,000 for a course or something like that, or for whatever it is that I'm doing. And the reality is we mostly underrate our gifts, our abilities, and our worth. And sometimes you've got to start by not charging or not charging much to get people to to come. But if they really want to continue with you, then you've got to make it really clear and get them to acknowledge you're worth it. Yeah, **Christin Roberson ** 33:58 I think the difficult thing about that is like a lot of my population are folks that have maybe worked in education. And as someone who's worked in education, I know how much we don't make. Right. Right. That becomes a struggle of like, I don't want to price out, you know, my prime audience. **Michael Hingson ** 34:16 But you know what to do in that situation, though? And yeah, that's the point. Yeah. **Christin Roberson ** 34:21 So you know, you work through some of that stuff. And then you have different price points for different things and kind of go forth. But I think I'm just now getting into that space of just like, Okay, we've been doing this for a while, you know, we we've made a profit, we've had to hire some people. It might be time to kind of raise our prices, like everybody says, to do that every kind of expert. Yeah, you're like, Oh, you're charging way lower. And I'm like, I don't want people to not be able to do this. But **Michael Hingson ** 34:50 the other side. The other side of that, though, is that if they really want to do this, and I know you don't want to price yourself out of the market, but if they really want Do it, they will find ways to come up with funds to to make it happen. And you may have to adjust exactly how you charge like, maybe you don't do it all at once you charged for payment schedule or something. I mean, who knows, but people can always find ways to do things, if they really value what it is that they want to do. **Christin Roberson ** 35:21 Yeah. And that, honestly, what you just said is exactly what I did. I started looking into kind of those, you know, you know, what is it pay per service, or, you know, PayPal has a program paying for, you know, installments, and so I started looking at installment payments. And that helped quite a bit where you don't have to pay it all at once. Like, I'll get it all at once. But then you're paying it slower. And that was something that helped. And that took research and just kind of is that something I could do? Yeah, I could do that. And it still allows me to charge you know, what I think is, you know, necessary and values need but also allows them to have a little bit more flexibility with how long it takes them to pay for something. **Michael Hingson ** 36:06 There's a course I needed to take a few years ago, and they wanted a bunch of money upfront. And I said, I really value the course I want to do it. I know what I'll get out of it. But I can't pay you all that money, can we work out a schedule, and God bless them they did. And what Normally people would pay in one lump sum of I don't even remember what the total was, but it was significant. They let me pay it over two years. Oh, wow. But we had a we had a schedule, we had it set up so that the money automatically came out. So they were confident in it, and it worked out. So there are a lot of ways to do it. If people want to make something happen, they can. And when you're willing to really help make it happen, then so much the better, because then you establish a more meaningful relationship. Yeah, **Christin Roberson ** 36:52 I think that's true. Because at the heart of the matter, I just, I really have a passion for kind of helping people, you know, especially in their career, because of what I, you know, experience through a lot of hard lessons to learn about, you know, not only just valuing myself, but also just kind of recognizing that there is more out there, you don't have to be, you know, chained to a desk and always working, you know, at night pass work on the weekends. That's not really live in life. And some people love that. But it wasn't for me, and it was something worse, like I can do something different. And I want to help other people do the same to work at home. **Michael Hingson ** 37:29 And I like my weekends. But also there are some things that I maybe didn't get done during the weekend, I'll do them on the weekends. But I can also spread things out and do them when I want. There's a lot of fun, I'm used to doing a lot of work at home, not necessarily going into an office, although I also value, the time when I can go into an office, but still working at home is a lot of fun. And you can schedule your times now, my life changed because my wife of 40 years passed away this last November. So now I can be up at 530 in the morning without worrying about waking her up. Which is a good thing. And as I tell people though, she's she's monitoring me if I misbehave, I'm going to hear about it. So but but she doesn't have to worry about waking up at 530 in the morning. She's going to monitor all the time anyway. So I can do that. But at the same time if I decide I want to go to bed at eight or 830 I can do that too. **Christin Roberson ** 38:25 Yeah, yeah, I definitely caught the stay at home. But during the pandemic, I was Yeah, working in education, and they sent us you know, home or whatever. And I was like, I think I actually thrive a little bit better being at home. I'm an introvert also. So I don't necessarily always need the the interaction and I could get it you know, if I wanted to, you know, through different chats or meet offline. But overwhelmingly I was like, I think I function better being at home. And just being able to do what I need to it was a part of what I needed to thrive. Some people Oh, you're so lazy. You don't want to go into the office? And I'm like, No, actually, it's just a preference. I didn't know it was the option we ever had. And now that we do, I don't want to let it go. **Michael Hingson ** 39:13 And the reality is the pandemic has taught us that there's a lot of value in people being able to work in a hybrid environment and spending some of that time working at home. Yeah, **Christin Roberson ** 39:23 and you get to use your own toilet. I'm just saying. It's just like you can make your own lunch, you can take a nap if you want to, like you can do things that actually make work not feel quite as daunting by kind of like, okay, I'm going to shape what my day looks like. Yeah. **Michael Hingson ** 39:44 And, and it works. And I think a lot of companies are starting to recognize that which hopefully will lead to a little bit more common sense in terms of who work environment will tell me about this whole concept of being a Gallup certified string. Just coach, I've never heard of somebody who was certified by Gallup. Yeah. So **Christin Roberson ** 40:06 they probably found is that I was working in higher education, because that's where, you know, a lot of the Clifton Strengths Assessment is administered is in higher education with students. And I had taken, you know, the assessment, you know, maybe one or two times. And then in one particular job, I worked at an online university that was connected to a larger university that was strengths based. And I was like, what is that? What does that mean? And so I ended up taking the assessment again, and then I got coaching from someone who was certified. And I was like, Oh, wow, this, this makes quite a difference. And there's like 5 million different assessments, you know, what color is your balloon? Right foot left foot, you know, you know, that tells you about what you do best. But this one gave language to the things that I did well, and how I approached kind of situations and problems. And so it made more sense to me. So I started looking into, like, how can I get more training on this. And so they had, at the larger institution I was connected to, you know, they had a training that was more focused on higher education, students success, so I took that. But I really wanted to get a larger Foundation. And so I ended up going to the very first Clifton Strengths summit that they had, I couldn't even tell you what year maybe 2016 or so. And it was there that they started talking about the certification piece. And here's what you get out of it, this is what it is. And I decided, like, I think I want to do this, because this is something I feel like I would integrate into every job that I had. And I really believe in this. So I spent the money, I definitely use student loan money, because I was still in school at the time. And I went to Omaha, Nebraska for a week and did an intense start of our strengths kind of training process, because you take the classes, and then you have to get a number of people to I guess, recommend you or give you a rating on your coaching. And then you take an exam, and then that's when you kind of find out whether you're you're going to be certified or not. So it's a lengthy process, but it was well worth it. **Michael Hingson ** 42:23 And it's it's run by or ultimately Gallup is involved. **Christin Roberson ** 42:27 Yes, yeah. Yeah. So when you're certified, you're certified through Gallup. **Michael Hingson ** 42:33 So you can start going off and doing polls now. Well, so and you are certified as a strength coach, what does that mean? Yeah. **Christin Roberson ** 42:45 So what it means is that there's a level of expertise that I have, and being able to talk about strengths and help other people kind of develop, and train. So a lot of my early work was around, kind of working with teams, and helping teams to kind of work better together. And to kind of discuss, like, you know, you work better together as a team, because everybody has different strengths. And here's the best practices on how you can kind of work together better, because some folks are butting heads, or there's something called kind of the shadow side of strengths. It sounds very ominous. But essentially, it's kind of the the side of your strength where you're not maybe using it correctly, it's not matured, or it's causing problems for you. And so we talk about kind of the how you kind of manage that piece of it. So it's, it's honestly learning how to work better with people from a place of your strengths and using them in a way that benefits you and the other people that you work with. **Michael Hingson ** 43:48 So how did you determine what your strengths were? **Christin Roberson ** 43:52 Yeah, well, I took the assessment. Yeah, took the assessment. And, you know, gave me my top five, I've taken all 34, which is always interesting, because you look at the bottom of the list, naturally. But my top five ended up being a relator, learner, achiever, developer and deliberative. And so then became kind of what what does this all mean, and how does it impact my work? A lot of my work with clients now, especially in the business is around value alignment. That's the framework that I've kind of created. And I look at strengths as values. So for example relator is used is generally about kind of close relationships, folks that are relators generally haven't had people in their life that have been there forever. You've had the same friend since kindergarten. I don't because I moved around all the time. I knew who I am. But most of the people in my life had been there for a very long time. So I really value close relationships, community like that I can be connected to. So it taught me a lot about a lot about those things. And it helped me actually figure out even job wise, like, if I'm going to work somewhere, I want to work somewhere where I can actually build community, and be connected to other individuals who enjoy what they're doing. I don't want to work in like a singular space where it's me and only me. And I don't have a chance to interact with anybody, I actually want to build community. So yeah. **Michael Hingson ** 45:33 So how do you feel you use your five key strings to help support people in building their personal and professional worlds? **Christin Roberson ** 45:42 Yeah. So it also starts with that relator piece, the one on one, because that's most of the coaching that I do now is one on one versus group. And so it centers around kind of building the relationship and building that place of trust. Because a lot of times people will tell you, you know, some deeply personal things that relate to work or their personal life, because your personal life doesn't sit at the door, when you go to work, it comes with you and affects your work. And so, you know, we end up kind of talking about, you know, what is it that you, you know, why did you even want to come to coaching, why is this important to you? What do you want to get out of it? But a lot of the questions that I kind of end up asking are kind of from that learner perspective. So it's the building of the relationship through the learning about the other person. And really kind of getting to the heart of of who they are, and what they're really looking to do. Because some of them have maybe never asked been asked that question or haven't thought about it in a long time. Because, you know, I've done the same job forever, I never thought that there'd be other options. So those two work pretty pretty instinct. achiever is generally focused around productivity, that's more of a, I call it an internal strength, there's like, internal things that are more so for you versus external, that are for other people like responsibility that she was really focused on other people. So for me, it's the constant need to kind of stay busy. And to always be learning and doing new things. And feeling like I'm being productive in the help that I'm giving other people like I'm doing things that are going to help them be successful. developer is probably the biggest one because it's around potential. And so seeing the potential in people, places and things. And so that's a lot of the work, that's probably the most utilized strength, because people really don't always can always see some of the things that everybody else knows about them. And being a stranger than I generally am to a lot of people. And, you know, after a couple of conversations, you look at their resume, gather some information. And you just start saying some of these things. They're like, yeah, yeah, that is me. Yeah, I never, you know, I never thought about that. Yeah, so being able to just point out the potential that people have to do something different, or differently, I'll say, has been huge. Yeah. Well, so there's a fifth one. Oh. Last one is just deliberative. And that's generally circled around decision making. So it's a lot of pros and cons, which is a lot of what I do with clients, where the pros and cons, okay, if you stay at your job another year, if you do something as like a side role if you decide to leave, and just trying to help them make the best decision possible. **Michael Hingson ** 48:40 What are some of the common challenges and misconceptions that people have about their own strengths? **Christin Roberson ** 48:47 Yeah, one, they don't always feel like they have them. The things that they do so naturally, they never really thought of as strength. So I always use kind of the example around like math. And I'll do like our raise your hand if you really love math. And it came very easy to you, you know, in school, and you know, you know, there'll be a couple of people that I raised their hands. And then who else who struggled with math, and you never liked it, and that was me raising my hand as well. And, you know, when you talk to both groups, you kind of get a sense of, you know, oh, well, this particular I didn't think that was a strength. I just like numbers. And it's like, that's, that's a strength of yours. That's an ability to be probably analytical. One of the strengths and you maybe just never thought of it that way, but that's maybe how your brain functions. So if you are approaching, you know, a problem, you might do it from an analytical perspective versus something that's more around well, how are the people versus someone who's going to ask like, can I see, you know, the strategic plan for the company that would give me the insight that I kind of want a little bit more. And so I think a lot of People don't consider the things they do naturally strengths. I think that they, when they get their top five, they kind of feel like, Oh, well, I, I kind of stink. They're only in one leadership area. And so I had a friend and all hers were in, like the relationship development leadership domain. And she was like, well, this stinks. And I said, No, it doesn't. You, you are the heart of this team, you can always tell me what's going on with everybody. I don't always see it, because I'm rushing, and I'm doing supervisory things. And I might miss it. But she will be the one to be like, Kristin, you really need to check in with so and so because they're going through this. She was the heart and I really had to talk to her about seeing that, you know, as a strength. But also not feeling like just because you don't have one in every leadership domain doesn't mean like you're, you're not okay, or that you won't do well, it simply means that your strengths are very concentrated in one area. And it's something that you do well. So those are probably the two, I think biggest ones or challenges kind of help people see and kind of get through. Do **Michael Hingson ** 51:06 you encourage people to take time at the end of the day, or at some time during the day just stop and chill and maybe do a little bit of introspection, and so on and to think about what's going on in their lives? Because we're so much on the go all the time, as we've talked about so often already on this episode. **Christin Roberson ** 51:25 Yeah. And I think that's kind of what happens in a lot of my conversations with them is that kind of what we ended up doing, they started thinking about things that they had never really, you know, considered before, or, Oh, okay, that's, oh, it's a lot of the Oh, the AHA lightbulb moment of them figuring out that's why I do that particular thing, or that's maybe why I'm struggling with this job so much is because it's actually not aligned with my strengths and the things that I really value. And so there's a lot of those little lightbulb moments that happen, or we're just really able to make some connections between their strengths. And the areas where they are doing well in the areas where they are experiencing challenges. I generally tend to think the areas where we're experiencing challenges, it could be for a number of reasons. But a lot of times, I think it's around the fact that it may be out of sync with our strengths, which is one of the things that I did in my pivoting is I started, I looked at my strengths and kind of did a bit of an assessment. And I said, you know, how, how often do I actually get to use my strengths in my job. And it was very low. And there was maybe one that I use all the time, which was productivity, because it was about kind of getting work out very quickly. But I wasn't learning anything new. I wasn't building community, I wasn't really able to make decisions they were made for me. Yeah, and it was like, Okay, I think it's time to think about this in a different way, or to figure something else out. Because this is not in alignment with who I am or what I want. And we **Michael Hingson ** 53:01 get so much in the habit of just going one way and doing whatever it is we're doing that we don't tend to look at going about what's going on. And is this really what I want. And our brain is usually our heart is usually telling us, maybe there's an issue here. And it becomes a process of learning to listen to that. And then going back and stepping back to see what's really happening. **Christin Roberson ** 53:27 And oftentimes, as it was for me, and a lot of other people that I know, maybe didn't realize it, but it was showing up physically where I was, I had migraines way more often I was getting sick, you know a lot more often, like there were physical ailments that I was experiencing that were in response to the strength or the stress I was experiencing. And even, you know, depression, anxiety was happening. And I'm like, I don't know what's going on. And I had to take a look what's working in my life that I love. And where am I seeing like the most, you know, the more difficult difficulty in trying to manage it. And it always came back to my job. So it wasn't that I didn't like to work with the particular environment. And what I was tasked to do became more difficult by the day that it was showing up as a physical ailment. And this hadn't been the first time that I had experienced it. And I had heard it from many other people who had also left higher ed, who experienced the same thing. And they're like, I don't know if I'm going to make it another year and not have be found in my chair and had a heart attack or something, you know, because of the weight of the stress of what you're trying to do. And so I would rather people figure it out through coaching than being in the hospital. Yeah. **Michael Hingson ** 54:42 What's up being a sales guy loving stories? Do you have a story of one particular time that maybe you really had a great success that helping people understand their strengths and how they were able to use that to improve and enhance **Christin Roberson ** 54:57 Yeah, When I first started the business, I wasn't charging anything, I was just asking for LinkedIn recommendations. And there was a group of about five individuals that I was working with at the time, they all worked in higher education, they had been doing it for a long time. Some of them had chord experiences and the way that they were being treated, and being able to kind of talk them through what they were experiencing was, first, it was phenomenal, because it was an opportunity for people to connect with someone who understood the field, what they were going through, you didn't have to explain you know, acronyms, or what this thing was, I already knew. And so I love that they enjoy connecting with someone who knew. And so with one particular individual, like, we would have extensive conversations about her experiences, but also at what she was good at. And we worked together for quite a few months, along with all the other individuals. But one of the things that I always deem is success is not just that they find a job, it's like they're thriving in that job. So the conversation and the coaching became something that was like, excellent, because I could see the results of it, I could see the result of it, and it's what they wanted. And now they were living a life where there you can see them going on vacation, you see them going to a conference, and they're happy. And I check in with them, I'm like, Oh, my gosh, you look like you're having a great time works going well. And they'll they'll let me know. And so I don't always get to see that. But a lot of times I do. And so for me, those moments are always key and seeing people happy, thriving and enjoying themselves. And knowing that there were other options, because many of them were like, I'm never going to get off this field, which is how I felt I don't have any options, especially having a terminal degree, like me and so many others had where it was not my intention to leave the field with a doctorate in higher education, that's an investment you make that you're going to stay in the industry. So talking to other individuals who felt the same way with their degrees, and giving them hope, was just paramount to what I always deemed as success was the hope that you felt them staying at the end of the call I oh my gosh, Chris, I feel so much better about this. Okay, I think about this differently now. So it's hard to pinpoint specific examples. But it's more so kind of the moments of aha of happiness and seeing the end result of the coaching and how they have progressed afterwards. **Michael Hingson ** 57:39 I had always planned on going into teaching when I got a bachelor's and a master's degree. But then things changed. And what I discovered, which I think is a pretty important thing is that, although I didn't go into formal teaching, in fact, mostly what I do is teach and in fact that the training I got in the the world of science, and attitudes and philosophies are tools that I can use wherever I go in whatever I do. So I I would not regret my time in physics at all. **Christin Roberson ** 58:17 I agree, it's taken me some time to kind of get over that mostly looking at my student loan balances. Sometimes they're like, my gosh, maybe we should go back and make it work. But when I remember what that life was like, and that yes, I have this degree, but ultimately, this degree led me to be know about strengths. And to be certified and to meet, you know, other people who are interested in it and folks that I've now known forever, then yeah, it was worth it. It's tough sometimes, because there's still some moments where I think about it, but it's never that I can't go back. I'll say that. And I always remind myself, I can always be an adjunct instructor or go and do something else. This may not be forever. But it definitely is what I want to do now and for as long as I possibly can. **Michael Hingson ** 59:00 So, you know, you pivoted, you went from one kind of career in a sense to another, although I'm not sure that totally they're different, the environments different, but what you're doing to a great degree is the same. What kind of advice would you give to other people who may be thinking about or who ought to think about looking at an alternative to what they're doing today? **Christin Roberson ** 59:22 Yeah. And I'm totally not sponsored by Simon Sinek. But start with why. I, that is one of the one of like five books I recommend that people who are thinking about it is to start with why that's probably the most important book to me outside of pivot by Jenny Blake. And it's basically starting with Why do you want to do this? Why do you feel like you need to do this? And there's not any right or wrong answers. A lot of mine were Yeah, I want to be happy. I want to be fulfilled. I'd also like to buy a house someday and I can't do that. On my salary, I can't pay off the debt, you know, from student loans on this salary can't necessarily live the way that I want to. And I, I had hoped, with the investment that I made in my, you know, particular education. And so a lot of that is just asking, why not just why you want to do coaching? Or why are you thinking about changing fields? I think beyond that, it's also just like, doing doing the research into the job. You know, the thing about strengths is, a lot of people may fit like they have a strength in a particular area. But it's maybe not. And we have people in our lives that are probably working in profession where you're like, that's probably not the best route for you. You're, you're, you have strengths in other areas that this, isn't it. And so being able to kind of do the work, or kind of, you know, what I call it as the skills gap, you know, what am I missing? So doing the research, discovering what actually are my skills, not just my top five strengths that are a great foundation, a great place to start, but like, what else am I like, really good at? How do I, you know, extend this, but starting with just the reason why unpacks a lot, because a lot of in the even in my unpacking was like, Oh, my gosh, I've been terribly unhappy for the past five years, working in the field, I really haven't been able to do the work that I want to, I'm always working, I've missed things, because I'm always working. So it wasn't just, you know, I'm not using my why was yes, you know, I'm not using my strengths. But also, there were basic foundational things

How can we earn twice as much in half the time, with joy and ease, while serving the highest good? That's the fundamental question award-winning author and podcaster Jenny Blake set out to answer in both her business and her now classic book “Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business”.Jenny shares some candid insights:The thrills and challenges of moving from a rollercoaster life (high pressure, fast paced) to one of joy and ease.What can happen when you remove yourself as the bottleneck in your business (hint: there are a lot of zeros involved).Why she started a pay wall with her new content Rolling in D

Systems may seem like something you should think about in an advanced phase of your business but today's guest, Jenny Blake, said that they are key for reclaiming your time. She shares her appraoch to running her business, and some simple first steps you can take to put systems in place — whatever phase your business is in. Launch Your Business is presented by Comcast Business. With Comcast Business it's not just possible, it's happening. Comcast Business - Powering Possibilities. Learn more at https://business.comcast.com.

Systems may seem like something you should think about in an advanced phase of your business but today's guest, Jenny Blake, said that they are key for reclaiming your time. She shares her appraoch to running her business, and some simple first steps you can take to put systems in place — whatever phase your business is in. Launch Your Business is presented by Comcast Business. With Comcast Business it's not just possible, it's happening. Comcast Business - Powering Possibilities. Learn more at .

When work isn't working, it's easy to question yourself, “Why can't I hack it? What's wrong with me?” Maybe you're feeling stagnant, exhausted, or even burnt out. Is it a capacity issue or are you high net growth? (stay tuned for what that means). I'm in conversation with award-winning author and podcaster, Jenny Blake. During her career at Google, she looked at her management and thought, “I don't want that job.” If you're languishing, and can't see a way forward, what do you do? Jenny offers a refreshing perspective on our obsession with promotions, and what she calls “the sea of shiny shoulds.” You'll learn about project-based purpose, how you can “turn into a goo” after leaving a company that has brand halo, and why an energy audit can be a big reveal. Join us.     Links: Jenny Blake on Substack Pivot podcast episode with Mandy Lehto Article on Languishing NYT article on Languishing, Adam Grant (subscription required)

My guest today is Jenny Blake - an international speaker, career and business strategist and executive coach with expertise on systems, efficiency and career fluidity in the rapidly-evolving knowledge economy. Formerly a Career Development Program Manager at Google (and author of the book Pivot, and before that, Life After College), Jenny helps leaders, employees and entrepreneurs achieve greater clarity, engagement, fulfillment and impact. Jenny has given international keynotes and workshops at top companies and universities such as Google, Microsoft, Stanford, Yale, Parsons, MIT, UCLA, TEDxCMU, Intuit, KPMG, Pimco and Best Buy. Here's her links t find out more: https://substack.com/@jennyblake https://itsfreetime.com/archive https://www.pivotmethod.com/ LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/jennyblake Twitter: @Jenny_Blake Instagram: @JennyBlakeNYC and for more frequent posts, @pivotmomentum Facebook: Facebook.com/JennyBlakeCA See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What if the traditional models of employment and team building were replaced by a personalized blend of individual contribution and collaboration, which fulfilled and rewarded every stakeholder? That's exactly what my guest, Jenny Blake, and I, explore in today's epsiode. As a successful podcaster and author of books including Pivot and Freetime, Jenny brings a wealth of understanding about the changing concepts of scaling and growth, for business leaders who want their work to have meaning and purpose, as well as profit. So she is the perfect person with whom to unpack how embracing automation and individual motivation can lead to delightful team growth and efficient workflow. From my personal journey of transitioning from the corporate world to freelancing, to Jenny's unique experience of becoming a manager at the age of 24, we dig into the importance of taking that first step from zero to one. How do we best balance team size and individual needs? We unravel this and more. We also peak into Jenny's use of tools for streamlining processes and keeping her remote team organized, and her innovative use of emojis as a communication tool.Looking to the future, we muse on how remote work is reshaping the way individuals make career decisions. We touch on the hustle culture and its impacts on entrepreneurs, and discuss the potential effects of external threats like recessions or pandemics on team morale.  Having an emotionally resilent core team that is *just* big enough, might be the key to embracing unknown changes yet to come.Join us, and let's explore the future of work together!Jenny famously does NOT do social media

Jenny Blake, author and former career development manager at Google, joins us for this episode to talk about her book, Pivot. Jenny delivers actionable insight that will help you free up your time and make the right choices because the only move that matters is your next one. Subscribe for ad-free interviews and bonus episodes https://plus.acast.com/s/the-unmistakable-creative-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Wondering how to accelerate trust in your business relationships? You're going to love this episode of Real Relationships Real Revenue! I sat down with Michael Ventura to discuss his two books: Applied Empathy and Prioritizing Purpose. Michael dives into the topics of empathy and purpose, and shares why you can't have one without the other.    Topics We Cover in This Episode:    How to get better at empathy in your relationships The power of genuine curiosity and thoughtful action when talking to others Tips for applying empathy in your life and business Ways to accelerate trust in your relationships The Depersonalization Model for breakdowns in communication Michael's new book about prioritizing your purpose How to get started thinking about your purpose What you need in order to be productive in your life The power of saying no to the wrong things so you can say yes to the right things The key to finding your potential   Empathy can be one of the biggest unlocks for leadership development, and I hope this conversation with Michael inspired you to add more empathy into your relationships.   If you want to learn more from him, make sure to check out his books. You can also learn more about him on his website and on LinkedIn.    If you want to check out David Burkus's TED Talk on finding and communicating purpose in a large organization, you can check it out here. You can listen to Jenny Blake's episode all about finding more free time in your business here.     Resources Mentioned: Visit Michael's website Find Michael on LinkedIn Check out David Burkus's TED Talk on finding and communicating purpose in a large organization Listen to Jenny Blake's Real Relationship Real Revenue interview -"How to Find More Free Time in Your Business with Jenny Blake"  

Wondering how to accelerate trust in your business relationships? You're going to love this episode of Real Relationships Real Revenue! I sat down with Michael Ventura to discuss his two books: Applied Empathy and Prioritizing Purpose. Michael dives into the topics of empathy and purpose, and shares why you can't have one without the other.    Topics We Cover in This Episode:    How to get better at empathy in your relationships The power of genuine curiosity and thoughtful action when talking to others Tips for applying empathy in your life and business Ways to accelerate trust in your relationships The Depersonalization Model for breakdowns in communication Michael's new book about prioritizing your purpose How to get started thinking about your purpose What you need in order to be productive in your life The power of saying no to the wrong things so you can say yes to the right things The key to finding your potential   Empathy can be one of the biggest unlocks for leadership development, and I hope this conversation with Michael inspired you to add more empathy into your relationships.   If you want to learn more from him, make sure to check out his books. You can also learn more about him on his website and on LinkedIn.    If you want to check out David Burkus's TED Talk on finding and communicating purpose in a large organization, you can check it out here. You can listen to Jenny Blake's episode all about finding more free time in your business here.     Resources Mentioned: Visit Michael's website Find Michael on LinkedIn Check out David Burkus's TED Talk on finding and communicating purpose in a large organization Listen to Jenny Blake's Real Relationship Real Revenue interview -"How to Find More Free Time in Your Business with Jenny Blake"  

Up next in Signature Stories, we're joined by Jenny Blake, author, speaker and podcaster. She's written three books and hosts the wildly popular podcasts "Free Time" and "Pivot." Jenny sits down with Jay to share a story about a walk with her dog. Jay and Jenny unpack how we can pull out moments of meaning from a small interaction, and how to reshape a story for an audio-only medium versus video. Throughout this series, we'll learn from how inspiring creators and experts craft their most valuable, most original stories that build connection and resonate deeply. We're putting on display the hidden details, tiny choices, and emotional moments, as we seek to go beyond telling stories to instead BECOME storytellers.BECOME A STRONGER STORYTELLER:Subscribe to my free newsletter. Every other week, get a new story/framework to help you stand out easier and resonate deeper with your work: jayacunzo.com/newsletterCRAFT A PODCAST YOU'RE PROUD TO CALL YOURS:Work with me one-on-one to develop or improve a show that stands out easier and resonates deeper. Using your creativity, NOT your budget, you'll walk away with an irresistible premise and format – and the on-mic skills to tell stories and conduct interviews that grip and inspire them.Book an hour now or learn more about my coaching and collaboration.JOIN THE CREATOR KITCHEN MASTERMIND:Connect with Jay and peers who care deeply about the craft: The Creator Kitchen is a mastermind of content creators learning to ship higher-impact work. We help you see the possibilities, decide the best approach, and execute with clarity + confidence on your most important projects.Learn more about membership – plus get some free samples – at creatorkitchen.com***IN THIS EPISODE:Jenny Blake: author, podcast host of Free Time and Pivot with Jenny Blake,  and international keynote speaker. "Reclining Liberty" Artist: http://www.zaqart.com***PRODUCTION CREDITS:- Creator, host, writer, editor: Jay Acunzo- Producer and researcher: Ilana Nevins

Loyalty to platforms and tools is crushing your growth.This was a huge epiphany I had while listening to a podcast recently (I was listening to Jenny Blake's “Free Time” podcast, which, by the way, is one of my favorites).The podcast episode I was listening to was “Why I Migrated My Three Email Lists to Substack (BFF Bonus Replay),” episode 222 (highly recommend).Many of you who have been with me for a long time (thank you) know that I love finding cool tools to check out and share.You've also probably noticed that over the last year, I've also talked much about streamlining my business.In fact, I'm tired of doing the tech.All I want to do is create and serve my audience – whether that's coaching, courses, a community, or creating and sharing valuable content.In late 2022, I contemplated moving from WordPress and going all in with ClickFunnels 2.0. Well… that was a bust. ClickFunnels 2.0, after a year-long delay in their launch, didn't have all the features I wanted to use, and it seemed silly to go to the trouble to move when I'd still need WordPress.The primary reason for wanting to make that move was simplicity.But it was also because I hate WooCommerce, which is what we used to launch Create It – The Content Planner.ClickFunnels 2.0 had promised their version of Shopify (for lack of a better explanation), and I thought, ‘Great! That solves everything!'So, stick with WordPress I did.Get the SPARK in Your InboxThis is where the phrase, “better the devil you know,” comes into play.As much as I don't like WooCommerce, I know how to use it and have developers who know how to use it.I love WordPress for the primary feature it was created for, which is blogging.The reason people end up looking for other platforms is that they don't want to piece a bunch of different things together (or Frankenstein, as some people say).As someone who can do a lot of this (although the less I do it, the less I remember how to, not to mention the less I want to do it) and has a developer who can do it, it all comes down to what I WANT to do.And screwing around with tech isn't something I want to do anymore.Circling back to the episode of Free Time I listened to that gave me my “a-ha” moment.Jenny Blake is a well-known author, has a large audience, and also has a very public dislike of social media. Her whole stance on social is that it isn't good for her. And that's the point, isn't it?I was intrigued to listen to this episode because I've been thinking of moving the newsletter for Create It (which is called “Creator's Weekly” and is fabulous – I don't write it, my daughter does) over to Substack.Now, before you think I've lost my marbles, you might be wondering about my very public love of

In this week's episode of Talking Nutrition, Johan is joined by Jenny Blake (Licensed Nutritionist and Functional Nutrition Counselor) to break down how to build muscle and lose body fat effectively, without the 1200 calorie diets and hours of cardio.Jenny shares how she takes her female clients through her Create Your Shape program, how to approach your nutrition and training in a better way, and how to create a long term, repeatable strategy for creating results.(Make sure to stick around until the end to learn for a few specific guidelines for including flexible foods and drinks with the girls

Meg chats about moving through liminal space, taking a podcast break, expanding into the real world, and the future of Mental Status. Listen to Jenny Blake's episode about Liminal Space here: Penney & Jenny Show — Embracing Liminal Space (the In-Between)

In this episode, Mike is joined by Jenny Blake who discusses the most effective way to monitor progress in order to get the body composition results that you desire. Typically, the changes we want to see are a combination of fat loss and muscle gain, but how do we know if the plan is working? Jenny breaks down an objective way to use data-informed decisions to ensure you get the results you desire. Plus, you'll learn tips for staying consistent while traveling and how to make progress with a busy schedule.Follow Jenny - @jennythenutritionistIf you're interested in the Create Your Shape Program - https://jennythenutritionist.com/create-your-shapeGet ALMOST free  nutrition coaching and training for $1, go here - https://mike1898c8.clickfunnels.com/14-days-of-nutrition-coaching-for-1Get 20% off any product from Legion Athletics! Use code POPFAM at https://www.legionathletics.comCured Nutrition is offering 15% off their products site wide! Try their Serenity Gummies or CBN Oil here - https://www.curednutrition.com/?rfsn=6745101.eee1d3Want 20% off any Organifi product? This is an exclusive offer for Mind Over Macros listeners. Simply go to organifi.com/popfam and save 20% off any of their amazing products like green juice, red juice, or gold juice!Click here to take advantage of this offer!------------------------------------------------Click here to apply for coaching!For some amazing resources and to be a part of a badass community, join our FB group HEREThe FREE personality assessment is now available online! Click here to take the assessment and find out what your personality tells us about the way you should be training and eating.Take the assessment here!To learn more about Neurotyping, visit www.neurotypetraining.comFollow Mike on IG at @coach_mike_millner

Jenny is an author, international speaker, career and business strategist and executive coach. She has worked in a start up during her college years and then she worked at Google. At some point she decided to follow her passions and left her job. She has already written three books, she runs a business on intuition and she continues discovering her own path.

We are surrounded by status games. Whether it's having a blue text bubble, a fancy car or the right combination of universities and ex-employers - we're constantly signaling our worth. But is it even possible to escape these games? Or is the conscious decision against obvious status games just the same game in a different form? Jenny is a podcaster, best-selling author, keynote speaker and dog mom. Learn more about Jenny: Connect with Jenny on Twitter Connect with Jenny on LinkedIn Listen to Jenny's Pivot Podcast Listen to Jenny's Free Time Podcast References from the show: The Sarah Jessica Parker Profile in the New Yorker Spotify ends deal with Meghan Markle Download the Free Time Toolkit Free Time by Jenny Blake Pivot by Jenny Blake Life After College by Jenny Blake Status Games by William Stor Listen to Khe on Jenny's Podcast Join an upcoming group coaching cohort: Are you looking to ask deep, introspective and provocative questions about your own life (with Khe and likeminded peers) ⁠⁠⁠Apply today⁠⁠⁠ BECOME A RADREADER:

In this episode, Eric and Jenny explore the concept of heart-based decision-making in business and in life. They also delve into ideas about redefining success, learning to trust and follow your intuition, as well as getting comfortable with awkwardness and discomfort.We also discuss How to Find More Free Time and… Defining heart-based business and heart-based living Understanding that stress is a systems problem How we can create systems to combat decision fatigue The importance of learning to let go of control The often missing and important metric of time to-revenue ratio Examining the energetic time blueprint Learning to trust and follow intuition Why we need to embrace imperfection To learn more, click here!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Have you ever felt drained by the thought of keeping up with social media marketing trends while trying to run your High-Intensity Training business? If you have, then you're not alone. Many fitness business owners struggle to balance their social media presence with running their business and reaching their target market. But what if there was a way that you harness the power of social media without being spread thin across multiple platforms?   Joining us is award-winning author, podcaster, and business strategist Jenny Blake — Jenny helps business owners like you move forward in your personal and professional life using smarter systems that can help you work more efficiently and have more free time.   In this episode, Jenny talks about you can use social media the smart way so you can get the benefits of reaching more people with less headaches. We talk about strategies, tactics, and tips that take into account your personality type, energy levels, and your business goals. We also talk about how you can use systems to work more intelligently, along with tactics such as batching, automation, social media scheduling, and more — if you're a small fitness business owner looking to grow using social media, you won't want to miss this episode!   Learn How HIT Experts Use Social Media to Grow Their High-Intensity Fitness Businesses Fast For the complete show notes, links, and resources, click here

How ambitious are you? More importantly, how ambitious do you want to be in different areas of life and work? Today's guest, Kathy Oneto, takes the long view on goals, especially for those of us who are naturally inclined to overwork until we burn out. Instead, we can be more intentional by toggling the dials of right ambition, right effort, and right time up and down as we move through different seasons. In this conversation, Kathy and I discuss managing ambition anxiety, how to know if you're bumping up against what Gay Hendricks calls an “Upper Limit Problem” versus your “truest fit reduced ambition,” mapping energy vs. urgency, and how to know when ambitions or life seasons have truly shifted versus handling a short-term setback. More About Kathy: Kathy Oneto is a strategy executive and life-work coach who is passionate about helping people succeed on their terms at work and in life. She is the host of the Sustainable Ambition podcast. Kathy champions being consciously ambitious and crafting fulfilling work from decade to decade without sacrificing your life or yourself. She is the author of the Sustainable Ambition 12-Month Workbook and Planner: Your Life plus Work Resilience Prescription and My Little Book of Curiosity: 26 Inquiries to Inspire What's Next for Your Life and Work.

Before Jenny Blake started her business, she didn't feel like she had the authority to speak to others about her passion, business, because she didn't have a “successful” $1M company under her belt. When Jenny finally leaned on her intuition and gave herself permission to speak about business publicly, she discovered her unique view on systems and operational efficiency propelled her to success. Since then, she's learned that leading with intuition is one of her greatest strengths. The New York-based international keynote speaker and “solo'plus'preneur” is the author of the award-winning book, Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business, and host of the Free Time podcast. Jenny teaches heart-based business owners how to build a business with ease and joy for all involved, not just for the owner at the expense of the employees. Listen as she explains why she believes not just in high-net-worth but in high-net-freedom and why the hard work is aligning ourselves and designing the systems to free up our time productively. ---- Follow Jenny on Instagram and check out her website to get all of the Free Time goodies! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Before Jenny Blake started her business, she didn't feel like she had the authority to speak to others about her passion, business, because she didn't have a “successful” $1M company under her belt. When Jenny finally leaned on her intuition and gave herself permission to speak about business publicly, she discovered her unique view on systems and operational efficiency propelled her to success. Since then, she's learned that leading with intuition is one of her greatest strengths. The New York-based international keynote speaker and “solo'plus'preneur” is the author of the award-winning book, Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business, and host of the Free Time podcast. Jenny teaches heart-based business owners how to build a business with ease and joy for all involved, not just for the owner at the expense of the employees. Listen as she explains why she believes not just in high-net-worth but in high-net-freedom and why the hard work is aligning ourselves and designing the systems to free up our time productively. ---- Follow Jenny on Instagram and check out her website to get all of the Free Time goodies! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How many times have you said yes to something, started it, gotten halfway through, then either been distracted, run out of time, energy, money, ideas, motivation, or all the above? And, just kind of walk away, leaving something that could've been amazing unfinished? Never getting the chance to back in the I DID THAT glow of accomplishment and tell everyone around you, “hey, I DID that!” And, yes, I'm raising my hand here.And, what about being able to do what's important without it also taking over your life, and leaving you living reactively? Wouldn't it be cool if there were ways, strategies, tools, processes and technology that could dramatically reduce the amount of time it takes to get things done, so you could have so much more free time to do all the other stuff you love to do? Including absolutely nothing at all? These are the questions we're diving into in today's special spotlight conversation featuring conversations with Start Finishing author, Charlie Gilkey, and Free Time author, Jenny Blake. How do I not only choose and start but also finish what really matters? And, while you're at it, how can I reimagine the way I work to create a ton more free time to do anything that lights me up? You can find Charlie Gilkey at: Website | Instagram | Listen to Our Full-Length Convo with CharlieYou can find Jenny Blake at: Website | Free Time Podcast | Listen to Our Full-Length Convo with JennyIf you LOVED this episode you'll love the conversation we had with Chip Conley about reimagining what you center in your life.Check out our offerings & partners: My New Book SparkedMy New Podcast SPARKED: We're looking for special guest “wisdom-seekers” to share the moment you're in, then pose questions to Jonathan and the Sparked Braintrust to be answered, “on air.” To submit your “moment & question” for consideration to be on the show go to sparketype.com/submit. Visit Our Sponsor Page For Great Resources & Discount Codes Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

So today is a little bit of a different episode for you. As I sit here recording this, I have just returned from a month-long creative sabbatical. I never believed something like this could be possible for someone like me until something happened earlier in this year that inspired me to really test that assumption and eventually prove me wildly wrong. I'm coming back with some experiences, some awakenings, some reality checks, and learnings that I wanted to share with you today. Today we're going to dive into just what happened, what I learned, and how you might consider creating your own version of an extended, deeply generative, regenerating, renewing and awakening leave. So excited to share these experiences and insights with you.If you LOVED this episode: you'll also love the conversations we had with Jenny Blake where the possibility of a creative sabbatical for me was planted and the conversation with DJ DiDonna about the research around how to take a life-changing break.Check out our offerings & partners: My New Book SparkedMy New Podcast SPARKEDVisit Our Sponsor Page For Great Resources & Discount Codeseharmony: eharmony is the first platform to use a proprietary matching system we developed to match you with highly compatible singles. So if you're ready to move past the swipe grind, join the dating app that helps people find the most authentic relationships and see for yourself. Start a conversation on eharmony today! Download the eharmony app now.The Unmistakable Creative Podcast: The Unmistakable creative podcast provides timeless wisdom, practical insights and candid conversations with insanely interesting people from every field. Listen to The Unmistakable Creative Podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.