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Krithika Shankarraman was the first marketing hire at OpenAI and Stripe and led marketing at Retool. At OpenAI, she established marketing foundations for ChatGPT for consumers and enterprises, as well as their developer API platform. While at Stripe, she spent over eight years building and scaling their marketing function from scratch. An engineer turned marketer, Krithika brings a uniquely analytical approach to marketing. She currently serves as Entrepreneur in Residence at Thrive Capital, where she helps portfolio companies on all things marketing.What you will learn:1. Why do most marketing playbooks often fail, and what's a better way?2. Which marketing lever should I pull first?3. Why is trying to be better than competitors usually a losing strategy?4. How do I craft positioning that actually converts?5. What makes messaging stick with developers, enterprises, and consumers?6. What pricing experiments actually move revenue?7. What is working at OpenAI really like?8. Why does consistency and quality matter more than speed?—Brought to you by:Eppo — Run reliable, impactful experimentsAirtable ProductCentral—Launch to new heights with a unified system for product developmentLinkedIn Ads—Reach professionals and drive results for your business—Where to find Krithika Shankarraman:• X: https://x.com/krithix• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krithix/• Website: https://krithix.com/—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction to Krithika(04:22) Early marketing lessons from OpenAI(11:17) Diagnosing marketing needs(15:06) The DATE framework and why being cheaper is a race to the bottom(17:11) Marketing strategies at Retool(22:29) Insights from marketing at Stripe(32:33) The importance of consistent marketing communication(39:55) Criteria for hiring a marketing expert(41:43) “Capital M” vs. “lowercase m” marketing(43:05) ChatGPT vs. Claude: market dominance(45:31) The future of AI and its societal impact(47:09) Work-life balance(48:41) Transitioning to Thrive(52:35) Career advice for marketers(55:00) The importance of taste and creativity in the AI era(01:00:04) AI product pricing(01:03:21) AI tools in marketing(01:05:17) Failure corner(01:08:46) Lightning round and final thoughts—Referenced:• OpenAI: https://openai.com/• Stripe: https://stripe.com/• Retool: https://retool.com/• Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/• Sam Altman talks about his business model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLnyjxgFxew• The art and science of pricing | Madhavan Ramanujam (Monetizing Innovation, Simon-Kucher): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-art-and-science-of-pricing-madhavan• Pricing your SaaS product: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/saas-pricing-strategy• Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/• Stripe Connect: https://stripe.com/connect• John Collison on X: https://x.com/collision• Patrick Collison on X: https://x.com/patrickc• Cristina Cordova on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cristinajcordova/• Hackpad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackpad• Building Wiz: the fastest-growing startup in history | Raaz Herzberg (CMO and VP Product Strategy): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-wiz-raaz-herzberg• Wiz: https://www.wiz.io/• Thrive Capital: https://thrivecap.com/• Brian Chesky's new playbook: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/brian-cheskys-contrarian-approach• Claude: https://claude.ai/new• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/• Lessons from scaling Stripe | Claire Hughes Johnson (former COO of Stripe): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-scaling-stripe-tactics• Databricks: https://www.databricks.com/• Everyone's an engineer now: Inside v0's mission to create a hundred million builders | Guillermo Rauch (founder and CEO of Vercel, creators of v0 and Next.js): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/everyones-an-engineer-now-guillermo-rauch• Tobi Lütke's leadership playbook: Playing infinite games, operating from first principles, and maximizing human potential (founder and CEO of Shopify): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/tobi-lutkes-leadership-playbook• OpenAI's CPO on how AI changes must-have skills, moats, coding, startup playbooks, more | Kevin Weil (CPO at OpenAI, ex-Instagram, Twitter): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/kevin-weil-open-ai• April Dunford on product positioning, segmentation, and optimizing your sales process: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/april-dunford-on-product-positioning• A step-by-step guide to crafting a sales pitch that wins | April Dunford (author of Obviously Awesome and Sales Pitch): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/a-step-by-step-guide-to-crafting• Severance on AppleTV+: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/• Granola: https://www.granola.ai/• Some people think AI writing has a tell—the em dash. Writers disagree: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/04/09/ai-em-dash-writing-punctuation-chatgpt/—Recommended books:• Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning So Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It: https://www.amazon.com/Obviously-Awesome-Product-Positioning-Customers/dp/1999023005• Circe: https://www.amazon.com/Circe-Madeline-Miller/dp/0316556327/—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe

April Dunford unpacks the proven frameworks behind her bestsellers Obviously Awesome and Sales Pitch to help you craft positioning that sells. Whether you're scaling a growth-stage startup or leading a legacy tech brand, you'll leave this episode with the tools to own your space in the market—and tell your brand story in a way only you can. Improve your storytelling immediately with my The ABTs of Agile Communications™ quick online course to learn the agile narrative framework that all influential business communication is built on.  Grab your copy of The Narrative Gym for Business, a short guide on crafting ABTs for all of your communications.  Read Brand Bewitchery: How to Wield the Story Cycle System™ to Craft Spellbinding Stories for Your Brand.    #StoryOn!   ≈Park

Too many SaaS founders and GMT leaders confuse positioning with messaging—and it's holding back their growth. If you've ever struggled with homepage copy, sales messaging, or team alignment, this episode is for you.Georgiana Laudi (Forget The Funnel) and April Dunford (author of Obviously Awesome and Sales Pitch) break down why messaging can't work without clear positioning—and how this confusion leads to weak differentiation, internal misalignment, and wasted marketing and product growth efforts.If your SaaS messaging feels scattered or ineffective, your positioning might be the real problem. Listen in to learn how to fix it.Positioning ≠ Messaging – Positioning defines who you compete against, what makes you different, and why customers choose you. Messaging is how you communicate that in different contexts.Why SaaS Teams Get This Wrong – Many founders try to “fix” messaging when the real issue is unclear positioning.The Problem with Guessing – How teams waste time on tactics instead of using customer insights to drive strategy.Why a Messaging Document is Non-Negotiable – April shares why teams without one end up in a game of "broken telephone."The PLG vs. Sales-Led Divide – Gia explains why positioning is different for self-serve SaaS vs. sales-led B2B and how each model should approach it.Why Homepage Teardowns Are Mostly BS – And what actually makes a homepage (or any messaging) effective.00:03:10 – Why Founders Confuse Positioning & Messaging (And Why It's a Problem)00:06:45 – The Core Components of Strong Positioning00:12:00 – The Messaging Mistake That Creates Internal Chaos00:24:30 – How PLG & Sales-Led SaaS Should Approach Positioning Differently00:30:00 – The Problem with Homepage Teardowns & Why Context Matters00:43:20 – How to Stop Guessing & Get Positioning RightApril's books: Obviously Awesome (on positioning) & Sales Pitch (on sales narratives)April's podcast: The Positioning Show with April DunfordForget The Funnel: Book & Consulting – Helping PLG SaaS teams build growth strategies based on customer insights, not guesswork. Follow Georgiana on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgianalaudi/ Check out the Forget the Funnel website: https://forgetthefunnel.com/

In today's episode, I explore the crucial distinction between positioning your product's value and handling objections. I explain why understanding the buyer personas in a B2B deal is essential to tailor messaging for champions versus other stakeholders. I also highlight scenarios where objection handling can transform into a core value driver under certain market conditions. You will learn: (00:00) Why Value and Objection Handling Aren't the Same* Value drives purchase decisions, while objection handling removes potential blockers.* Focusing on core value themes helps customers remember what sets your product apart.(04:56) Turning Features into Meaningful Value* Product capabilities only matter when translated into business outcomes customers care about.* Asking “so what?” ensures features connect to tangible benefits.(07:24) Objections: Identifying, Anticipating, and Handling Them* Objections often arise from non-buying stakeholders like IT, legal, and end users.* Objection handling should occur after establishing value, not before.(14:18) Understanding the Roles in a B2B Buying Committee* Champions push deals forward, while other personas can stall or block decisions.* Equipping champions to navigate internal objections increases deal success rates.(20:49) When Objection Handling Becomes a Value Driver* Poor competitor performance can turn typical objections into selling points.* Listening to customer frustrations reveals opportunities for repositioning. —Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQ—The Positioning with April Dunford podcast: Want to make your product stand out in a crowded market? It all starts with great positioning. Using April's battle-tested methodology, she'll teach you the nitty-gritty of positioning so that you can unlock better marketing and sales performance.Podcast website: https://www.positioning.show/ Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3PFHcWx Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4aqyDqI Subscribe on YouTube:

In today's episode, I dive into the art of transforming competitor strengths into weaknesses, a practice which I sometimes call “marketing jiu-jitsu.” You will learn: * How competitor strengths can double as weaknesses in different markets.* Opportunities for challenger brands to carve out niche markets.* The differences between platform and tool positioning and their respective advantages.* Competing with legacy brands.* Competing against free or low-cost products.* Appealing to end users versus decision-makers.* Using manager-level value propositions to win deals against free tools.* Focusing on high-value market segments to avoid a race to the bottom.* Examples of successful positioning from companies like Salesforce, IBM, and Snowflake.—If you want to skip ahead: (00:37) Marketing Jiu-Jitsu(01:51) Empowering End Users vs. IT(05:01) Market Leadership vs. Challenger Strategies(09:54) Niche Market Strategies and CRM Examples(13:26) Platform vs. Tool(21:05) Competing Against Free and Low-Cost Products(26:43) Focusing on High-Value Segments—Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQ—The Positioning with April Dunford podcast: Want to make your product stand out in a crowded market? It all starts with great positioning. Using April's battle-tested methodology, she'll teach you the nitty-gritty of positioning so that you can unlock better marketing and sales performance.Podcast website: https://www.positioning.show/ Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3PFHcWx Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4aqyDqI Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@positioningshow —This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.SuccessWithStories.com

In today's episode, I explore the frustrating yet common issue of competitors making false or exaggerated claims about their products. In this episode, I answer the question: When you want to discuss your differentiated product or service, what do you do if you've got a competitor who lies that they too have the same product or service, when in fact they don't? You will learn: * The misconception that competitors can easily replicate differentiated features.* How architectural and resource constraints make copying features harder than it seems.* Competitors often stretch the truth or outright lie about capabilities.* Focusing on the value delivered by features rather than just the features themselves.* Using proof points, data, and examples to expose dishonest competitors.* Real-world examples of combating competitors who misrepresent themselves.* The reputational risks for companies that stretch the truth.* Turning dishonest competition into an opportunity to gain trust and loyalty—If you want to skip ahead: (00:00) Welcome to Season Three!(04:12) The Myth of Easy Feature Copying(09:30) Why Competitors Appear to Copy You(13:55) Handling Competitor Lies(16:40) Focus on Value, Not Just Features(19:20) Educate Buyers to Expose Competitor Lies(22:10) Prove Your Claims with Data—Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQ—The Positioning with April Dunford podcast: Want to make your product stand out in a crowded market? It all starts with great positioning. Using April's battle-tested methodology, she'll teach you the nitty-gritty of positioning so that you can unlock better marketing and sales performance.Podcast website: https://www.positioning.show/ Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3PFHcWx Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4aqyDqI Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@positioningshow —This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing:

Jen Abel is the co-founder of JJELLYFISH, where she and her team have worked with over 300 early-stage founders to learn how to sell, do early customer discovery, and set up a repeatable sales motion on the way to their first $1M ARR. In our conversation, Jen shares:• Why founder-led sales is so crucial early on• The sales process, step by step• How to craft effective outreach messages• Where to find leads• What three channels work best for outreach• What to say on your first call• How to maintain momentum• Strategies for navigating procurement and closing deals• Common pitfalls in the sales process and how to avoid them—Brought to you by:• Brave Search—A smarter way to search• Vanta—Automate compliance. Simplify security• Paragon—Ship every SaaS integration your customers want—Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/master-founder-led-sales-jen-abel—Where to find Jen Abel:• X: https://x.com/jjen_abel• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/earlystagesale—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Jen's background(02:20) The importance of founder-led sales(08:24) The steps of a sales cycle(12:01) Tactics for effective cold outreach(16:47) Conversion rate vs. win rate(20:20) The time it takes to find product-market fit(23:06) Identifying and engaging prospects(30:58) Nailing the first phone call(34:14) Buying vs. selling(38:08) Testing the questions to ask(41:57) Avoiding common sales questions and securing the second call(43:08) Co-authoring with customers(45:06) Time-boxing service contracts(49:20) Why you should avoid demos on the first call(51:05) Dealing with procurement(54:22) The power of enterprise sales(58:14) Getting a signature(01:00:15) Choosing a focus and overcoming sales challenges(01:02:19) General timelines(01:04:27) Final thoughts and advice(01:13:32) Working with Jen—Referenced:• Wiz: https://www.wiz.io/• JJELLYFISH: https://www.jjellyfish.com/• Clay: https://www.clay.com/• A guide for finding product-market fit in B2B: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/finding-product-market-fit• Airtable: https://www.airtable.com/• Figma: https://www.figma.com/• GitHub: https://github.com/• Vanta: https://www.vanta.com/• Christine Cacioppo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ccacioppo/• Glengarry Glen Ross: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104348/• A step-by-step guide to crafting a sales pitch that wins | April Dunford (author of Obviously Awesome and Sales Pitch): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/a-step-by-step-guide-to-crafting• Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win: https://www.amazon.com/Sales-Pitch-Craft-Story-Stand-ebook/dp/B0CHY6BNDN• Sprig: https://sprig.com/• Zip: https://zip.co/—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. Get full access to Lenny's Newsletter at www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe

In this episode of the Sales Technology Podcast, host David Dulany sits down with April Dunford, renowned author of “Obviously Awesome” and “Sales Pitch!”.  April shares her journey from VP of Marketing and Sales to a sought-after consultant specializing in positioning and sales pitches for B2B tech companies. She dives deep into the critical difference between positioning and pitching, explaining how companies can bridge the gap to create compelling, value-driven sales pitches that resonate with buyers. With actionable tips and engaging anecdotes, this episode is a must-listen for SDRs, Sales Reps, Marketers, and Founders looking to refine their messaging and guide their prospects through an information-overloaded marketplace. Tune in to learn how to simplify your pitch, align cross-functional teams, and close deals with confidence.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-sales-technology-podcast--1947957/support.

In today's episode, I explore product differentiation and the common misconception that some products have no unique value. I also explore the potential root causes when companies fail to see their own differentiation. You will learn: * The myth of having no product differentiation and what it means for B2B technology companies.* The importance of understanding competitive alternatives and translating capabilities into customer value.* Why a lack of differentiation leads to poor sales and business growth issues.* How irrational buyer decisions are influenced by the need to avoid risks.* The concept of "value blindness" and its impact on the marketing team.* The dangers of focusing solely on losses while ignoring the importance of analyzing wins.* How "product pessimism" can spread within teams and damage overall morale.* The significance of cross-functional collaboration in aligning a company's positioning strategy.—If you want to skip ahead: 02:30 - Question of Differentiation in B2B Products 04:29 - The Stakes of Differentiation in Buyer Decisions 06:39 - Recognizing Value in a Product 09:25 - Addressing Misconceptions About Differentiation 12:50 - Understanding True Competitive Alternatives 17:44 - The Importance of Analyzing Wins 22:47 - The Role of Segmentation in Positioning—Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQ—The Positioning with April Dunford podcast: Want to make your product stand out in a crowded market? It all starts with great positioning. Using April's battle-tested methodology, she'll teach you the nitty-gritty of positioning so that you can unlock better marketing and sales performance.Podcast website: https://www.positioning.show/ Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3PFHcWx Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4aqyDqI Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@positioningshow —This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing:

In today's episode, Georgiana Laudi and I explore the failings of traditional sales funnels and why companies should instead focus on a customer-led approach to growth.My guest, Georgiana Laudi, is the ultimate marketing guru with a passion for turning customer value into cash for SaaS companies. She helps SaaS leaders grow smarter through her consultancy, Forget the Funnel. You will learn: * Why traditional funnels are lazy and ineffective for understanding customers.* The concept of customer-led growth and how it differs from funnel-based approaches.* The importance of mapping critical moments of value in the customer journey.* The pitfalls of ignoring pre- and post-funnel customer experiences.* How to align teams around a profound understanding of customer needs.* The role of KPIs in tracking customer success, not just business success.* Why optimizing customer onboarding can lead to dramatic improvements in growth.—If you want to skip ahead: 02:30 - Why Funnels Don't Work06:45 - Introducing Customer-Led Growth12:30 - Mapping Customer Journeys17:15 - Jobs to Be Done: A Game Changer23:10 - The Importance of Onboarding28:00 - Measuring Success: KPIs That Matter35:30 - How to Focus on the Right Customers—Learn more about Georgiana Laudi and her Forget the Funnel team: https://forgetthefunnel.com/ Connect with Georgiana on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgianalaudi/ —Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford April's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@positioningshow—Mentioned in this episode: * Georgiana Laudi and Claire Suellentrop's book, Forget the Funnel: A Customer-Led Approach for Driving Predictable, Recurring Revenue: https://amzn.to/3QOTP2z * The Jobs-to-Be-Done methodology. —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQApple Books: https://apple.co/3xihSzCGoogle Play:

Are you struggling to close deals, even when you know your product is the best fit? Do you find yourself losing to prospects who freeze up and don't make a decision at all? In this episode, Yaniv and Chris are joined by April Dunford, author of "Obviously Awesome" and "Sales Pitch," to explore the art of crafting the perfect sales pitch. They dive deep into why buying is hard, common pitching mistakes, and how to structure a pitch that truly resonates with your prospects. In this episode, you will: Discover why buying is often harder than selling, especially in B2B contexts Learn about the anxiety and fear that drives many purchasing decisions Understand why common pitch formats like feature walkthroughs and problem-solution frameworks often fall flat Explore the concept of being a "trusted guide" for your prospects Learn how to structure a pitch around your unique market insight Discover how to reverse-engineer your differentiated value proposition Understand the importance of aligning product, marketing, and sales efforts The Pact Honour The Startup Podcast Pact! If you have listened to TSP and gotten value from it, please: Follow, rate, and review us in your listening app Subscribe to the TSP Mailing List at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thestartuppodcast.beehiiv.com/subscribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Secure your official TSP merchandise at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shop.tsp.show/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on YouTube at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@startup-podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Give us a public shout-out on LinkedIn or anywhere you have a social media following. Key links The Startup Podcast is sponsored by Vanta. Vanta helps businesses get and stay compliant by automating up to 90% of the work for the most in demand compliance frameworks. With over 200 integrations, you can easily monitor and secure the tools your business relies on. For a limited-time offer of US$1,000 off, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.vanta.com/tsp⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Get your question in for our next Q&A episode: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://forms.gle/NZzgNWVLiFmwvFA2A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Startup Podcast website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tsp.show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about Chris and Yaniv Work 1:1 with Chris: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://chrissaad.com/advisory/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Chris on Linkedin: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrissaad/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Yaniv on Linkedin: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/ybernstein/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Credits Editor: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Justin McArthur⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Strategist: Carolina Franco https://www.linkedin.com/in/francocarolina/ Intro Voice: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jeremiah Owyang⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

In today's episode, I dive into the art of framing a sales conversation. I explore three common ways salespeople start their pitches and analyze the strengths and weaknesses of each. By the end, I share my preferred approach to leading with a unique insight, helping you differentiate your sales pitch from the competition.You will learn: * Three common ways to open a sales pitch: defining the problem, presenting market changes, and starting with discovery.* Pros and cons of starting with the problem statement in a sales conversation.* Why focusing on market changes might not be as effective as it seems in sales.* The challenges of relying solely on discovery at the beginning of a sales call.* How starting with your company's specific value can shape the conversation.* Differences in framing strategies for enterprise vs. small businesses.* The importance of positioning yourself as an expert rather than following generic sales approaches.—If you want to skip ahead: 02:30 - Defining the Problem in Sales Conversations06:15 - Presenting Market Changes to Frame Your Pitch10:00 - Starting with Discovery in Sales Pitches14:20 - Why Problem Framing Can Fall Short22:10 - Benefits of Leading with a Unique Insight27:00 - Using Your Value to Frame Discovery30:00 - Practical Tips for Structuring Your Sales Pitch—Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford April's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@positioningshow—Mentioned in this episode: * April's most recent book, “Sales Pitch” (see links below). —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQApple Books: https://apple.co/3xihSzCGoogle Play: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=%22April%20Dunford%22&c=books Barnes & Noble: https://www.bn.com/s/%22April%20Dunford%22 Bookshop:

In today's episode, I speak with product marketing expert and consultant Tamara Grominsky, who is the former Vice President of Product Marketing at Kajabi and Unbounce. Have you ever asked questions such as: “How do I hire a good product marketer? What skills should they have? And how should we measure product marketing?” In this episode, Tamara and I answer those questions and more.You will learn: * The key responsibilities of a good product marketer.* Why product marketers should know the product better than product managers.* The differences between sales-led and product-led go-to-market strategies, plus the importance of mapping the buying journey and equipping the sales team with the right messages.* The need for founders to be realistic about the skills and experience required for a startup product marketer.* Why product launches don't need to be big or expensive to succeed, but they do need to be intentional about who the launch is for.* Lessons from how Michelin Guide was launched to encourage more driving, with star ratings for destinations.* The benefits of analyzing existing customers to identify best fit for product and value proposition.* Why you should avoid creating marketing personas that are too fictional and instead create segment profiles that are based on quantitative data.—If you want to skip ahead: (3:27) Product marketing role and responsibilities. (6:47) Product marketing challenges and hiring tips. (12:24) Product launch strategies. (16:08) Identifying target audience for product launches. (20:13) Segmentation in marketing. (25:10) Identifying customer segments. (29:01) Product marketing personas. —Connect with Tamara Grominsky on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Subscribe to “PMM Camp,” Tamara's newsletter for product marketing leaders: https://newsletter.pmmcamp.com/subscribe —Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford —Mentioned in this episode: * PMM Camp, Tamara's community for product marketing leaders: https://www.pmmcamp.com/ * The Leap, a platform by Thinkific that creators can use to create and sell digital products: https://www.theleap.co/ —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada:

April Dunford is an expert at product positioning. She's advised hundreds of B2B companies on how they can make their products Obviously Awesome  — that's also the title of her bestselling book on positioning. On this episode of CRAFTED., April shares tips on how you can make your product standout and how you can drive more sales — that's the focus of her latest book, Sales Pitch.April says great positioning starts when you truly understand the answer to this question: “If you didn't exist, what would a customer do?” And the answer may surprise you: “We lose half of our deals in B2B to ‘do nothing!'” Do nothing – the status quo – is a fierce competitor and April has identified ways to help customers gain the confidence they need to make a scary purchase decision (e.g. buying a new CRM). Key here: don't sell to your customer; help them buy. April is fun and has a knack for sharing colorful anecdotes and analogies that will stick with you. e.g. Tune in to find out what buying a toilet has to do with B2B SaaS. Takeaways from this episode:Positioning defines how your product is the best in the world at delivering something to a defined group of peopleGreat positioning starts with understanding the competition. Not what you think the competition is, but what your customers actually evaluate you against. e.g. Is your product cake (dessert) or a muffin (breakfast)? They're both made of bread and pretty similar, but they've got totally different competitors.Startups often have great positioning at the outset, but then it slips over time as new competitors copy what you do and your uniqueness gets lost. You need to pay attention to your positioning as the market changes.Don't sell! Help your customers buy. Don't assume they know how to! Imagine you're selling a CRM… When was the last time your customer bought one? Ten years ago? If ever. Help them contextualize your product among the others out there.Lead with business outcomes! Not features.Key Moments:(00:00) - Introduction (02:20) - - Working with founders, being "the positioning expert", and why positioning is so tricky to get right (05:22) - - How to make your product "Obviously Awesome" (07:18) - - The five elements of great positioning (15:59) - - Why "do nothing" is your strongest competitor: 50% of B2B deals are lost to "do nothing" (17:43) - - Don't sell: Rather, "help your customers buy" (and what buying a toilet has to do with this) (29:50) - - April positions herself: How she grew her personal brand and narrowed in on her solopreneur offering (33:16) - - Outro CRAFTED. is brought to you in partnership with Docker, which helps developers build, share, run and verify applications anywhere – without environment confirmation or management. More than 20 million developers worldwide use Docker's suite of development tools, services and automations to accelerate the delivery of secure applications. CRAFTED. is produced by Modern Product Minds, where CRAFTED. host Dan Blumberg and team can help you take a new product from zero to one... and beyond. We specialize in early stage product discovery, growth, and experimentation. Subscribe to CRAFTED., follow the show, and sign up for the newsletter

Avec Product Marketing Decrypte, je déconstruis pour vous le jargon et expressions courantes du Product Marketing pour les rendre compréhensibles.Cette série de mini épisodes, vous permet de vous former et d'apprendre les principes de base du Product Marketing pour monter en compétence et éviter les moments de malaise en réunion ou pendant une discussion entre collègues. LE SUJET DU JOUR

Today's episode is a repost of one of my favorite topics: why value is important for positioning for B2B technology companies. In this episode, first I define value vs. differentiated value, and explain why the latter is key to everything. Next I explore how to find the right balance between features and value, and I share tips on mastering your product walkthrough and proving your claims to customers. I also cover common mistakes to avoid when segmenting your audience, the job of a market category, and how a strong understanding of your differentiated value will inform successful messaging that resonates with your customers. Lastly, near the end of the episode, I discuss my book, “Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win,” which you can get from Amazon https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY and wherever good books are sold—see more links below. (When I originally published this episode, my book wasn't out yet. But it's been out for 10 months now and has received hundreds of 5-star reviews.) —If you want to skip ahead: (00:15) Defining value.(01:14) A story about Janna Systems and their biggest competitor, Siebel Systems.(04:19) How one sales rep changes everything.(07:35) How Janna Systems shifted their positioning and won over Siebel Systems.(08:34) Customers don't care about your features.(10:28) Value vs. differentiated value and what really matters.(13:15) Value buckets.(14:06) Why value is difficult to understand.(16:06) Helping customers translate value on their own.(18:21) Mastering your product walkthrough.(20:00) The importance of proving your value to customers. (21:47) Finding your best-fit customer.(23:50) Common mistakes to avoid. (25:11) Differentiated value and the job of a market category.(27:43) How differentiated value informs messaging.(29:30) My book about sales pitches. —Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQApple Books: https://apple.co/3xihSzC—The Positioning with April Dunford podcast: Want to make your product stand out in a crowded market? It all starts with great positioning. Using April's battle-tested methodology, she'll teach you the nitty-gritty of positioning so that you can unlock better marketing and sales performance.Podcast website:

We content marketers all want to put out high quality content all the time. But you might get writer's block or just feel stuck sometimes. And one of the best ways to get unstuck, to feel inspired and motivated to get better and better is to look to content creators who do their job really, really well. So in this episode, we encourage you to be influenced by some of the top thought leaders in business, including Gary Vaynerchuck, April Dunford, Chris Walker and Jason Lemkin. Together with the help of our special guest, Co-Founder & CMO of Dreamdata, Steffen Hedebrandt, we talk about writing a book, running experiments, keeping your content snowball rolling, sourcing content ideas from your sales team, and much more.About our guest, Steffen HedebrandtSteffen Hedebrandt is CMO and Co-Founder of Dreamdata, a pioneer in the realm of growth engines and marketing optimization. Steffen is a subject matter expert in connecting marketing activities with revenue. He has an exceptional growth mindset, is data-driven by heart and loves all parts of scaling the commercial side of a business. A notorious growth hacker with a successful track record of scaling businesses and building teams at Upwork and Airtame, Steffen knows the pain points of rapidly scaling marketing and growth firsthand.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Business Influencers:Write a book. Ian says, “if you can write a book and you have a good idea for it, it does give you credibility. It is a lot of work, but if it succeeds, then you can do really well.” Gary Vee has Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook. April Dunford has Obviously Awesome. And the books opened the door for them as thought leaders. Spending the time and thought on writing a book positions you as an expert in your field and validates your thought leadership in your industry. Run experiments. Steffen says, “[Gary Vaynerchuk is] constantly experimenting. Him and his teammates are extremely good at running constant experiments and yeah, sometimes it fails. But if we don't continue the experimentation culture, then we will not find the next big thing that's going to be driving the conversation with the audience.” So keep trying new and different things, see what works, and use it in your marketing.Keep rolling the snowball of content. Steffen says, “You need to do work and then you need to tell the world about it. And then in this constant cycle of documenting, “This is what we've done today. Here's an example.' Move on to the next thing. And little by little, the snowball starts rolling and you grow your audience little by little by continuously putting out stuff.” Try to put out content continuously, even if you only have one point to make. And little by little you'll grow your audience.Define your audience. Ian says, “Who exactly do you want to talk to? And obviously niche down as much as you possibly can to try to figure out who you really feel like you can serve the best and then figure out, ‘Okay, if I want to talk to these people for the next five years, what is the type of stuff that I want to talk about?  You should probably go talk to those people. Hopefully you have a background in that. If you want to go with the very super authentic route, if you don't have a background, then you need to find a way into being authentic, which means you need to talk to people who are having those problems and pull them into your content.” So do your research. Get to know your audience as well as possible so you can speak their language, create messages that resonate with them, and build your community. Source content ideas from your sales team. Steffen says, “When you listen to what the customers are telling your sales team, exhaust those questions through well-written content, and then produce a lot of high quality content that can ensure that you can always stay top of mind with the customers that you're trying to target.” Tune into what your sales team is hearing from customers about questions they have, concerns, and more, and channel that into your content.Quotes*”It's about authenticity. You can hear that these are real experiences. It's things that they've tried. Jason [Lemkin] can say these things because he's been in the trenches. That to me is the people I want to listen to. It's people who have done things themselves that you can trust that  it might not be a universal truth, but it's at least something that they've tried themselves and experienced. And now they're sharing this story with you. “That's what really makes it convincing to me.”*”If you're sitting out there just wanting to get started, just find peace in doing one of those disciplines where you are a good writer or you're good at communicating verbally, or you do well on video. And just dip your toes in whatever of those that you feel that you're strongest in. And if you want to get started, you don't have to do all of those disciplines at once. If you like writing, just start by writing and see where that takes you.”*”The one thing we can control in marketing is that we can ensure that we have a high output of content and we can ensure that that content is of the highest quality all the time. So whether it's somebody who's making a decision whether to buy or not, whenever they're being exposed by a podcast that we've been part of, we know it's high quality. And that's probably what could be convincing that customer to move on with deciding whether they should be going with us or not. So high quality, high frequency output is something that we as marketers can always control.”Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Steffen Hedebrandt, Co-Founder & CMO of Dreamdata[2:18] The Power of Consistent Content Creation[4:18] Understanding Business Influencers[9:17] Building Personal Brands and Marketing Strategies[11:40] The Importance of Authenticity and POV[20:15] Experimentation and Content Strategy[24:32] Packaging Ideas for Easy Understanding[25:33] Getting Started with Content Creation[26:23] Identifying and Engaging Your Audience[27:36] Creating a Unique Point of View[30:00] Content Strategy at DreamData[31:53] High-Quality Content and Distribution[37:25] Measuring Marketing Success[41:36] Innovative Content Approaches[44:50] Introducing DreamData's Audience Hub[48:24] Final Advice for MarketersLinksConnect with Steffen on LinkedInLearn more about DreamdataAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

In today's competitive landscape, how do you make your solution the clear choice for your best-fit customers?Join us as we uncover the secrets to a compelling sales pitch with April Dunford, author of Obviously Awesome and her latest, Sales Pitch.April reveals how to transform your pitch into a story that helps customers navigate their options, understand the trade-offs, and confidently choose your solution. She also explains why many companies struggle to carry their positioning into sales conversations and how to bridge that gap.Hosts: Rowan Noronha & Morgan J IngramGuests: April DunfordProducer: Grayson OttenbreitEditor: Stephen DespinsTimestamps:TIMESTAMPS:(00:04:15) What is positioning?(00:06:15) What are the 5 components of positioning?(00:07:38) Why start with competitive alternatives?(00:10:35) How do you tackle positioning when dealing with multiple personas/buyers?(00:18:58) Has your engineering background impacted how you approach positioning?(00:21:55) Difference between positioning and messaging?(00:26:05) Who owns positioning? Is it sales? Product marketing?(00:34:40) How do you combat sales teams who just want to pitch product features?(00:42:31) Walk us through your sales pitch framework.(00:49:13) Can you break down the main components of your pitch?(00:56:20) While building your ICP, how do you handle research?(01:00:51) What is one thing folks get wrong when rolling out a sales pitch?

In today's episode, my guest and I explore the intricate relationship between positioning, messaging, and copywriting for B2B tech companies. I'm joined by Emma Stratton, the founder of a consulting firm that helps-growing B2B tech companies win on positioning and messaging. You will learn: * How B2B and B2C are different and each comes with their own unique challenges and opportunities.* How to differentiate between positioning, messaging, and copywriting.* The value of flexible messaging across different channels. * The importance of being concise in marketing messaging, particularly in the tech industry.* How punchy language is easier for consumers to absorb and remember, making it more effective in conveying complex ideas.* Why marketing professionals should avoid jargon and overused words like "leverage," "utilize," "transform," "accelerate," and "game changer."* Why some people struggle with narrowing down on a specific customer persona.* How taglines and headlines need to speak to customer perspectives.* Formulas and tricks to make your headlines more interesting and attention-grabbing. —If you want to skip ahead: 0:01 Positioning and messaging in B2B. 8:32 Marketing terminology. 13:04 Using simple language in marketing and avoiding jargon. 17:20 Tech language clarity and messaging for specific customer types. 22:18 Messaging for technical products. 30:27 Emma's book about messaging and marketing. 35:29 Messaging strategy. —Connect with Emma Stratton. Emma's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-stratton-punchy/ Punchy: https://punchy.co/ Learn about Emma's book, Make it Punchy: How to Write Simple Tech Messaging That Wins Hearts, Minds, and Markets, which will be published in September 2024: https://pagetwo.com/book/make-it-punchy/ —Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford —Mentioned in this episode: * Made to Stick: Why Some Ideas Survive and Others Die, a book by Chip Heath and Dan Heath: https://amzn.to/4cNPDsx —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK:

In today's episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (⁠@mattragland⁠) talks through the 10 books every creator must read, split up into three categories — Mindset, Business, and Process. Later, Tim Forkin (⁠@timforkindotcom⁠) joins for the first edition of Creator Advice — our new segment where we answer questions from our community, place ourselves in their situations, and work to solve their problems.  (0:00) — Intro (1:30) — The War of Art, by Steven Pressfield (2:45) — The Pathless Path, by Paul Millerd (4:13) — Bird by Bird, by Anne Lamott (5:48) — Perennial Seller, by Ryan Holiday (6:32) — Obviously Awesome, by April Dunford (7:11) — Dotcom Secrets, by Russell Brunson (8:18) — $100M Leads, by Alex Hormozi (9:20) — The Art and Business of Online Writing, by Nicolas Cole (10:09) — Free Time, by Jenny Blake (11:23) — Building a Second Brain, by Tiago Forte (14:42) — Creator Advice! Join the HeyCreator Community Use Automatic Evergreen to send profitable newsletters on autopilot

In today's episode, I explore gathering product market insights directly from customers and crafting effective product marketing strategies with Martina Lauchengco, a partner, teacher, author, speaker, mom, and native Californian. You will learn: * How a VP of Marketing required team members to talk to two customers every week.* Observing customers in the field to deepen your knowledge about how they use your products. * Conducting customer interviews to understand the bigger context.* Win/loss analysis. * Collaboration between marketing and sales teams.* How companies can stay ahead of the curve by being responsive to customer needs.* How the rapid pace of technological change and AI is transforming go-to-market strategies. * Understanding how a product intersects with the market and identifying key activities to amplify its reach.* Product marketing's intersection with lead generation strategy. * The crucial role that product marketers play in shaping go-to-market strategies.* The limitations of positioning statements.* Understanding the context and audience for messaging. * The dynamic nature of messaging in the early stages of a company. * Using storytelling frameworks in sales pitches. * Investor positioning. * Borrowing techniques from successful peers, even if they seem unconventional.* How product marketing is misunderstood in many companies. —If you want to skip ahead: (0:00) Customer insights for product marketing. (4:16) Customer interviews. (9:38) Understanding market changes. (16:39) Product marketing and go-to-market strategies. (20:19) Lead generation. (26:15) Positioning for companies. (29:57) Sales pitches. (36:01) Testing new pitches. (39:23) Product marketing function. —Connect with Martina Lauchengco on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinalauchengco/ Learn more about Martina: https://martinalauchengco.com/ Get Martina's book, Loved: How to Rethink Marketing for Tech Products: https://amzn.to/3RIr5s2 —Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford —Mentioned in this episode: * Gong call recording software: https://www.gong.io/ * The Jobs-to-be-done (JTBD) framework: https://strategyn.com/jobs-to-be-done/ —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQApple Books: https://apple.co/3xihSzC—The Positioning with April Dunford podcast: Want to make your product stand out in a crowded market? It all starts with great positioning. Using April's battle-tested methodology, she'll teach you the nitty-gritty of positioning so that you can unlock better marketing and sales performance.Podcast website: https://www.positioning.show/ Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3PFHcWx Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4aqyDqI Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@positioningshow —This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.SuccessWithStories.com

April Dunford is the author of “Obviously Awesome”, and in this episode, she talks about positioning—what it is and why it's important. She dives into some of the analogies she used in her book to explain how positioning works. She also brings up Clay Christensen's milkshake story to break down the 5 components of positioning. She then answers some of the viewers' questions, offering practical advice for startups. Show Notes [03:22] Some misconceptions about positioning, why positioning is important in business, and how it differs from traditional branding [09:22] Why positioning is like the opening scene of a movie [16:25] Some signs of weak positioning: total confusion, wrong comparisons, prospective clients don't think your value is valuable or they think your vision is just a fantasy [20:25] Define what makes your product special and then figure out what is the best context to frame those qualities in [25:35] The 5 components of positioning: competitive alternatives, unique capabilities, differentiated value, target market segments, and market category [27:58] On Clayton Christensen's “Jobs to Be Done” theory [36:05] How to convince buy-in companies that positioning is important [43:18] How to define positioning if you do not have best customer fit yet [45:08] How positioning influences product development [50:05] How to position your product or company if you want to cater to different countries About April Dunford April Dunford studied engineering in university and then spent the first 25 years of her career as a marketing executive for startups. She has worked as a consultant for more than 100 companies, helping them fine-tune their sales and marketing teams. Aside from being an expert on product positioning, April is also a mentor, an adviser, and a keynote speaker. She lives in Toronto, Canada with her kids and a small dog. Links Salesforce Competing Against Luck by Clayton Christensen Profile April Dunford's website April Dunford's Twitter

In today's episode, I discuss how sales and marketing interact with Loren Padelford, a sales, marketing, cashflow, and revenue expert. You will learn: * The limitations of the predictable revenue playbook and alternative approaches.* How Salesforce pioneered cloud-based software and introduced a new way of thinking about how software gets delivered and sold.* How the rise of ad networks and digital ads made it easier to reach many potential customers faster. * Why the traditional sales process and long sales cycles are frustrating and failing. * That startups founders should design their own sales system based on their product and customer needs.* Shopify's approach to hiring sales reps involved looking for personality traits like curiosity, intelligence, work ethic, and success.* That research shows no correlation between education and success in sales. * The limitations of Product-Led Growth (PLG) approach.* The role of sales reps as tour guides of e-commerce platforms.* The need for marketing, sales, and product to work together in the software industry. —If you want to skip ahead: (0:01) The predictable revenue sales model and alternative models. (4:49) Sales and marketing strategies in the software industry. (10:52) The limitations of the predictable revenue model in software sales. (15:44) Sales strategies and personality traits for success in sales. (23:01) Sales strategies for Shopify businesses. (27:35) The role of sales reps in e-commerce, with a focus on Shopify's experience. (33:05) Sales and marketing collaboration. (36:51) Sales and marketing alignment. —Connect with Loren Padelford on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorenpadelford/ —Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford April's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@positioningshow—Mentioned in this episode: * Predictable Revenue: Turn Your Business Into a Sales Machine with the $100 Million Best Practices of Salesforce.com, a 2011 book by Aaron Ross: https://amzn.to/4bXcBMP —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQApple Books: https://apple.co/3xihSzCGoogle Play: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=%22April%20Dunford%22&c=books Barnes & Noble: https://www.bn.com/s/%22April%20Dunford%22 Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/contributors/april-dunford —The Positioning with April Dunford podcast: Want to make your product stand out in a crowded market? It all starts with great positioning. Using April's battle-tested methodology, she'll teach you the nitty-gritty of positioning so that you can unlock better marketing and sales performance.Podcast website: https://www.positioning.show/ Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3PFHcWx Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4aqyDqI Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@positioningshow —This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.SuccessWithStories.com

Episode Summary In this episode, host Chris Moody talks with John Common of Intelligent Demand about the ongoing challenge of aligning sales and marketing teams. They discuss why misalignment often stems from a lack of clear strategy and leadership guiding the organization. John emphasizes that B2B growth requires cross-functional collaboration but most companies still operate in silos. John also dives into common mistakes made with account-based marketing programs when they are treated as solely a marketing initiative. He outlines why traditional metrics like marketing qualified leads are outdated. About the guest John Common, CEO and founder of Intelligent Demand brings 20 years of expertise in growth strategy, technology, marketing, sales, and customer success. His career focuses on driving measurable revenue growth for tech and service firms, both internally and as an agency partner. Under his leadership, Intelligent Demand has emerged as a premier revenue growth agency, prioritizing its people, culture, and client success. John also hosts "Growth Driver," a podcast for B2B executives eager to drive growth, featuring thought leaders and experts. Connect with John Common Key takeaways- B2B growth requires cross-functional alignment and collaboration, but most companies still operate in silos due to a lack of clear go-to-market strategy and leadership. - Common mistakes with account-based marketing programs include treating it as solely a marketing initiative, not setting clear growth goals, and relying on outdated metrics like MQLs.  - Companies need to critically examine their assumptions around go-to-market approaches and commit to developing integrated growth strategies, as traditional playbook methods are no longer effective. Quotes"B2B growth is a team sport, there is no go-to-market motion where cross-functional alignment is not." -John Common Recommended Resource Books-Kotler on Marketing by Philip Kotler. -Sales Pitch by April Dunford. -Obviously Awesome by April Dunford. Podcast-⁠Growth Driver⁠ -⁠Lenny's Podcast⁠ ⁠Connect with John Common⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website

Matt Dixon is one of the world's foremost experts in sales and the author of The Challenger Sale, which sold over a million copies worldwide and was a #1 Amazon and Wall Street Journal bestseller. His most recent book, The JOLT Effect, focuses on overcoming customer indecision—one of the biggest challenges to closing deals. Outside of writing, Matt co-founded DCM Insights, a boutique consultancy helping organizations understand customer behavior, and is a frequent contributor to the Harvard Business Review, with more than 20 print and online articles to his credit. In our conversation, we discuss:• Why 40% to 60% of qualified sales opportunities are lost due to customer indecision• Why dialing up FOMO doesn't work, and what to do instead• The “pings and echoes” technique to catch issues early• The JOLT method for overcoming indecision• Key lessons from The Challenger Sale• Practical examples of how to apply these principles to close more deals—Brought to you by:• Enterpret—Transform customer feedback into product growth• Webflow—The web experience platform• Heap—Cross-platform product analytics that converts, engages, and retains customers—Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/close-more-deals-matt-dixon—Where to find Matt Dixon:• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewxdixon• Website: https://www.jolteffect.com/—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Matt's background(01:57) The research behind Matt's books(06:08) Insights from The JOLT Effect(10:15) FOMO vs. FOMU(18:18) An example of selling software(26:04) The JOLT method Step 1: Judge their level of indecision(29:41) The “pings and echoes” technique(34:49) Step 2: Offer a recommendation(38:36) Step 3: Limit the exploration(41:43) Step 4: Take risk off the table(45:58) When to hit the pause button with a customer(47:27) Insights from The Challenger Sale(49:07) An example of a challenger sale(55:23) Where to find Matt—Referenced:• A step-by-step guide to crafting a sales pitch that wins | April Dunford (author of Obviously Awesome and Sales Pitch): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/a-step-by-step-guide-to-crafting• The Challenger Sale: Taking Control of the Customer Conversation: https://www.amazon.com/Challenger-Sale-Control-Customer-Conversation/dp/0670922854• The JOLT Effect: How High Performers Overcome Customer Indecision: https://www.amazon.com/JOLT-Effect-Performers-Overcome-Indecision/dp/0593538102• Gartner acquires CEB: https://www.gartner.com/en/about/acquisitions/history/ceb-acquisition• Tiger King on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81115994• Why sourdough went viral: https://www.economist.com/1843/2020/08/04/why-sourdough-went-viral• Neil Rackham: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Rackham• Status quo bias in decision-making: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_quo_bias• Omission bias: https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/omission-bias• Gartner Magic Quadrant & Critical Capabilities: https://www.gartner.com/en/research/magic-quadrant• Dunning-Kruger effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect• Stop Losing Sales to Customer Indecision: https://hbr.org/2022/06/stop-losing-sales-to-customer-indecision• Dentsply Sirona: https://www.dentsplysirona.com/• “We happy?” Briefcase scene from Tarantino's Pulp Fiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGchDuOpbhE• Nupro Freedom Cordless Prophy System: https://www.dentsplysirona.com/en-us/discover/discover-by-category/preventive/hygiene-handpieces.html—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. Get full access to Lenny's Newsletter at www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe

In today's episode, I explore the different types of competitors you face and how you can position yourself against each of them. You will learn: * How different departments or groups in a company (e.g. sales, product development, etc.) view and define competitors differently. * The 3 types of competitors: (1) status quo competitors, (2) direct competitors, and (3) “do nothing” competitors.* Positioning yourself against status quo competitors requires nailing your value versus the status quo, and understanding a customer's pain of changing from the status quo over to you. * Positing yourself against direct competitors entails leaning into your differentiated value, as compared to your competition. * Positioning yourself against “do nothing” competitors involves understanding why customers evaluated you and your competitors, yet became indecisive and didn't pick any solution/product/service.—If you want to skip ahead: (4:36) Positioning against competitors in B2B sales. (9:59) Winning strategies for B2B sales, including disqualifying unqualified leads and addressing indecision in purchasing decisions. (14:45) Handling objections, increasing confidence in purchase decisions, and educating customers on trade-offs. (19:56) Ways to reduce customer indecision in sales deals. (24:53) Sales strategies for tech companies, focusing on positioning, best-fit customers, and risk mitigation. —Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford —Mentioned in this episode: * April Dunford's article/newsletter about this topic: https://aprildunford.substack.com/p/a-buyer-centric-approach-to-competitive * To get the free templates related to April Dunford's two books, go to https://www.aprildunford.com/books and sign up for the newsletter; then you'll receive an email to download the free templates. —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQ—The Positioning with April Dunford podcast: Want to make your product stand out in a crowded market? It all starts with great positioning. Using April's battle-tested methodology, she'll teach you the nitty-gritty of positioning so that you can unlock better marketing and sales performance.Podcast website: https://www.positioning.show/ Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3PFHcWx Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4aqyDqI Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@positioningshow —This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.SuccessWithStories.com

  April Dunford is the founder of Ambient Strategy, a consulting firm that helps technology companies grow. She has led marketing, product, and sales teams at companies like IBM, Siebel, and Sybase. April's work is focused on early and growth-stage startups—recognizing that weak positioning can be the difference between success and failure. She also works with large global companies, helping them develop deeper positioning expertise in their product and marketing teams. April's best-selling book, Obviously Awesome, captures her ideas about positioning and provides a methodology that any startup can follow. Today, April is focused on giving back as much as she can. She mentors and advises dozens of startups and is an enthusiastic board member at a handful of startups. April resides in Toronto, Canada, where she enjoys spending time with her kids and small dog in a cabin in the woods.   Today, April joins me to discuss positioning for B2B tech companies. She explains how to position a product to the current market, rather than the company's vision of the future. She discusses what product managers need to understand about their vision and the current market to craft a successful position. She explains why product positioning is most important in B2B and why positioning is different from messaging. We discuss the importance of positioning to improve marketing and sales performance and why you need to continually refine and evolve positioning over time. April also suggests the best way to develop a positioning thesis and calculate the value it will deliver to the customer.   “The best way to test positioning if you're B2B and you have a sales team is to take that positioning and translate it into a sales pitch, then test it out on qualified prospects in a sales call.” - April Dunford   This week on Innovation Talks:   ●     How to explore the best positioning strategy for your company ●     How B2B tech companies can position themselves for their specific market ●     Why weak positioning makes your sales process harder ●     April's five components of positioning ●     April's methodology for positioning that any company can follow ●     How to test your positioning ●     The benefits of structured sales pitches   Connect with April Dunford:   ●     April Dunford's Website (https://www.aprildunford.com/) ●     Book: Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It by April Dunford (https://www.amazon.com/Obviously-Awesome-Product-Positioning-Customers/dp/1999023005/) ●     April Dunford on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/) ●     April Dunford on Twitter (https://twitter.com/aprildunford)   This Podcast is brought to you by Sopheon   Thanks for tuning into this week's episode of Innovation Talks. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and leave a review wherever you get your podcasts.   Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/innovation-talks/id1555857396) | TuneIn (https://tunein.com/podcasts/Technology-Podcasts/Innovation-Talks-p1412337/) | GooglePlay (https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9pbm5vdmF0aW9udGFsa3MubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D) | Stitcher (https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=614195) | Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/1dX5b8tWI29YbgeMwZF5Uh) | iHeart (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-innovation-talks-82985745/)   Be sure to connect with us on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/SopheonCorp/) , Twitter (https://twitter.com/sopheon) , and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/sopheon/) , and share your favorite episodes on social media to help us reach more listeners, like you.   For additional information around new product development or corporate innovation, sign up for Sopheon's newsletter where we share news and industry best practices monthly! The fastest way to do this is to go to sopheon.com (https://www.sopheon.com/) and click here (https://info.sopheon.com/subscribe) .  

  April Dunford is the founder of Ambient Strategy, a consulting firm that helps technology companies grow. She has led marketing, product, and sales teams at companies like IBM, Siebel, and Sybase. April's work is focused on early and growth-stage startups—recognizing that weak positioning can be the difference between success and failure. She also works with large global companies, helping them develop deeper positioning expertise in their product and marketing teams. April's best-selling book, Obviously Awesome, captures her ideas about positioning and provides a methodology that any startup can follow. Today, April is focused on giving back as much as she can. She mentors and advises dozens of startups and is an enthusiastic board member at a handful of startups. April resides in Toronto, Canada, where she enjoys spending time with her kids and small dog in a cabin in the woods.   Today, April joins me to discuss positioning for B2B tech companies. She explains how to position a product to the current market, rather than the company's vision of the future. She discusses what product managers need to understand about their vision and the current market to craft a successful position. She explains why product positioning is most important in B2B and why positioning is different from messaging. We discuss the importance of positioning to improve marketing and sales performance and why you need to continually refine and evolve positioning over time. April also suggests the best way to develop a positioning thesis and calculate the value it will deliver to the customer.   “The best way to test positioning if you're B2B and you have a sales team is to take that positioning and translate it into a sales pitch, then test it out on qualified prospects in a sales call.” - April Dunford   This week on Innovation Talks:   ●     How to explore the best positioning strategy for your company ●     How B2B tech companies can position themselves for their specific market ●     Why weak positioning makes your sales process harder ●     April's five components of positioning ●     April's methodology for positioning that any company can follow ●     How to test your positioning ●     The benefits of structured sales pitches   Connect with April Dunford:   ●     April Dunford's Website (https://www.aprildunford.com/) ●     Book: Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It by April Dunford (https://www.amazon.com/Obviously-Awesome-Product-Positioning-Customers/dp/1999023005/) ●     April Dunford on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/) ●     April Dunford on Twitter (https://twitter.com/aprildunford)   This Podcast is brought to you by Sopheon   Thanks for tuning into this week's episode of Innovation Talks. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and leave a review wherever you get your podcasts.   Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/innovation-talks/id1555857396) | TuneIn (https://tunein.com/podcasts/Technology-Podcasts/Innovation-Talks-p1412337/) | GooglePlay (https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9pbm5vdmF0aW9udGFsa3MubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D) | Stitcher (https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=614195) | Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/1dX5b8tWI29YbgeMwZF5Uh) | iHeart (https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-innovation-talks-82985745/)   Be sure to connect with us on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/SopheonCorp/) , Twitter (https://twitter.com/sopheon) , and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/sopheon/) , and share your favorite episodes on social media to help us reach more listeners, like you.   For additional information around new product development or corporate innovation, sign up for Sopheon's newsletter where we share news and industry best practices monthly! The fastest way to do this is to go to sopheon.com (https://www.sopheon.com/) and click here (https://info.sopheon.com/subscribe) .

Les frameworks c'est bien mais s'ils sont bien adaptés au contexte et à la maturité de l'entreprise.C'est le sujet du jour, puisque Pauline Lafontaine nous explique comment travailler le framework du Positioning développé par April Dunford dans son livre Obviously Awesome.Notamment pour qu'il soit pertinent aux entreprises Early Stage.April Dunford, rappelons-le, est la référence sur le sujet du positionnement et sales pitch dans le secteur de la tech B2B. Pauline a fait ses armes en Product Marketing chez Canal + et Algolia pour aujourd'hui accompagner les entreprises Tech, qu'elles soient Early-Stage ou mature sur les sujets PMM.Autant vous dire que le positionnement & sales enablement sont ses domaines d'expertise.Alors, dans cet échange, Pauline nous explique :

In today's episode, I explore why market category is a good starting point for developing great positioning. You will learn: * Viewing your market category is context-setting for your products/company. * Thinking of your market category as being similar to the opening scene of a movie. (See link below for my article about this idea, which includes the opening scene of the movie Baby Driver.) * Understanding your product/company's unique value proposition before determining market category.* Why positioning involves identifying what sets your product apart from competitors and the status quo.* Why positioning in an underserved segment of an existing market category is easier than creating a new category.* Communicating the differentiated value of your product or service.* Why companies need to go deeping into their value props to help customers understand how they can deliver unique value for their business.—If you want to skip ahead: (3:50) Market categories and their role in positioning products/companies, with a focus on differentiated value. (7:46) Positioning and messaging for startups, focusing on understanding customer needs and differentiated value. (11:26) Positioning and market categories in business.—Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/consultantApril's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford —Mentioned in this episode: * My article about market category in which I discuss the opening scene of the movie Baby Driver: https://aprildunford.substack.com/p/understanding-the-job-of-a-market * Positioning: The Battle for Your Mind, a book by Al Ries and Jack Trout: https://amzn.to/3JrR4zJ —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQ—The Positioning with April Dunford podcast: Want to make your product stand out in a crowded market? It all starts with great positioning. Using April's battle-tested methodology, she'll teach you the nitty-gritty of positioning so that you can unlock better marketing and sales performance.Podcast website: https://www.positioning.show/ Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:

In today's episode, I talk with a technology entrepreneur about lessons related to his product initially being mispositioned in the market and also the challenges of positioning both free and paid versions of software solutions. Joining me is Abhinav Asthana, founder and CEO of Postman, an API platform for software developers to build and use APIs.In today's episode: * How Postman's positioning evolved from a product-focused approach to a platform-focused approach, with different positioning for end-users and executives.* Building Postman with the conviction that modern software is built on APIs, and evangelizing (positioning) this idea to investors.* Why top-down positioning needs to align with company strategy. * The value of working with analysts to understand customer needs and improve products.* Positioning software in terms of satisfying customer needs.* The importance of staying ahead of competitors in the enterprise software market.* The challenges of competing with free products and prioritizing user experience.* Abhinav advises talking to 50-100 customers per year to gain insights and build conviction in product decisions.—If you want to skip ahead: (2:24) Origin story of Postman. (7:19) Postman's growth, fundraising, and positioning challenges. (12:57) API platform growth and top-down sales strategies. (18:03) Taking an API-first approach in software development and marketing strategies. (28:19) Scaling velocity, competitors, and customer engagement in the enterprise software space. —Connect with Abhinav Asthana on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abhinavasthana/ Learn about Postman's API platform: https://www.postman.com/ —Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford April's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@positioningshow—Mentioned in this episode: “Breaking Changes,” a podcast where Postman Chief Evangelist Kin Lane and guests talk about the API universe: https://www.postman.com/events/breaking-changes/“The API-First Transformation,” a book by Kin Lane with a foreword by Abhinav Asthana: https://amzn.to/3PZzEOy —Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It.”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win.”Amazon US:

What happens when a business coach and a copywriter get together?  They have fun sharing about what makes content creation easier and more effective.Rachel Eubanks and I bonded on social media over the name of a book we both love – Obviously Awesome and this led to us talking about:What makes content writing/copywriting more effectiveWhy email is so importantWhy frequency and fun are keys to great content writingHow templates for writing are essentialHer 4 part newsletter templateACTION PLAN: How to improve your copywritingGet super clear on your ideal clientWrite your content to that ideal client (one person)Use everyday language in your copyUse templates where every possibleBe consistent with your blogs, emails, etc.Plan your content creationInsert your content creation into your overall marketing planNeed help planning?  https://dianalidstone.com/shop/quarterly-retreat/ABOUT RACHELRachel is a copywriter for creatives and e-commerce business owners and the founder of Inspire to Engage.She is also a mother, wife, daughter, podcast junkie, caffeine addict, left handed and a lover of old country music. (He Stopped Loving Her Today gets me every time)Connect with Rachel:Inspiretoengage.comFacebook here or hereLinkedIn hereABOUT ME:I'm a best-selling author, award-winning speaker and podcast host. After almost 40 years as an entrepreneur, I'm best known for my straight-talk, no BS and the simple business and marketing strategies that bring my clients more joy, profit and freedom.  This podcast offers tips and strategies for small business owners who are tired of working too hard for too little profit, and having little or no free time.Connect with me here:diana@dianalidstone.comwww.dianalidstone.comhttps://www.facebook.com/diana.lidstonehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/hiredianalidstone/MOST POPULAR 2023 EPISODES:Ep. 61 – What do an 11-year old entrepreneur, cookies & Tesla have in common? (here)Ep. 112 – How to plan your week effectively like a small business CEO (here)Ep. 71 – 99% of Small Firms don't do this! (here)Ep. 111 – Grow & Run your business effectively like a CEO (here)Ep. 99 – Elevate your brand & grow your online presence: 5 Actionable Marketing Strategies with Genevieve Rochon (here)Share your feedback with me by clicking here and leaving a short voice message!

Do you know how to position your product or service?Talking PointsApril's backgroundWhy positioning is importantWhat positioning isEmail for lawyersProblems caused by weak positioningHow solos can identify positioning problemsChoosing criteria that ensures clients will be happy in the endPositioning the business itself versus individual offeringsHow publishing a book affected April's inbound leadsBooks as part of the overall businessQuotable Quotes“There's branding and there's positioning. Those two things are totally separate, and in fact, you need to have your positioning sorted out first, before you decide what your branding should be.” –AD“Now I think there's more of an awareness around positioning.” –AD“Now, I'm booked up 3-4 months in advance, my rates are way higher, I work way less, and my clients are way happier, because I only promise to do this one very narrow thing, but it's a super valuable thing, and if you've got this problem, who else you gonna call?” –AD“If you're going to make that investment in doing marketing, there should be a call to action in there.” --AD LINKSRochelle | Email List | Soloist Women | LinkedIn | Twitter | InstagramJonathan | Daily List | Website | Ditcherville | LinkedIn | Twitter

In this episode, we sit down with April Dunford, founder of Ambient Strategy and author of the books "Sales Pitch" and "Obviously Awesome". She is most known for her expertise in market positioning, having personally launched 16 products and influenced many others. Our conversation covers several key insights from Dunford's work:The disconnect between how marketing and sales teams communicate product value, with marketing focused on perfect messaging while sales reverts to feature-dumping demos.The importance of crafting a sales pitch that tells a compelling story about why a customer should choose your product over competitors, rather than just listing product capabilities.Her experience launching her own positioning-focused podcast, where she was able to dive deeper into niche positioning topics than is typically possible as a guest on other shows.This episode offers valuable lessons for anyone involved in product marketing, sales, or positioning - whether at a tech company or any other type of business. Dunford's insights provide a framework for crafting more effective, customer-centric sales and marketing narratives. A big thank you to our guest co-host, Josh Colter. Josh is the CEO of Cardboardit and has great experience in marketing and positioning. We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to podcast@sep.com to share your feedback on this show.You can find more information about this podcast at sep.com/podcast and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for listening!

Questions covered in this episode: 0:42 Opening Question: Can you take us back to a moment in your career or your life where you had to step outside of your comfort zone? 6:42 How does it look like being the CEO and founder of a consulting business?16:05 Can you please tell us more about your article ‘primer on positioning' and your book ‘Obviously Awesome'?25:44 Can you talk a little bit about how that influenced your second book on the sales pitch, which is more about, you know, bringing this to life in the sales pitch?34:18: What role should AI play in product marketing?38:05 what do you wish you knew maybe at the beginning of your career that you wish you knew now?Looking to connect? You can find April here on LinkedIn.

Welcome to Season 2! In today's episode, I explore why positioning fails to make the jump from marketing to sales in many companies, and what common misconceptions and mistakes in positioning work should be avoided.You will learn: * Why sales teams often lack a deep understanding of positioning and its importance in the sales process.* Communicating value and positioning product consistently across all sales calls, even for new sales reps.* What happens when marketing creates positioning without consulting sales, leading to disconnect between the two teams.* The disconnect between sales teams and marketing teams, as marketing decks often don't account for the need for discovery and objection handling during sales calls.* Two common unspoken objections in sales pitches: pricing and change management.* Common challenges in transitioning positioning from marketing to sales, including inadequate decks. * In enterprise and B2B deals, multiple stakeholders involved in a deal can lead to multiple pitch decks, making the process more complicated.* Customizing pitch decks for the champion, with a focus on resonating with their needs and concerns, rather than trying to address the objections of other stakeholders in the deal.—If you want to skip ahead: (0:01) Positioning in B2B marketing and sales. (4:25) Sales strategy and customer understanding. (8:55) Why marketing and sales positioning often doesn't align. (13:18) Sales pitches and unspoken objections. (18:00) B2B purchase process and positioning for sales. (23:24) Customizing sales pitch decks for different personas. —Connect with April Dunford and learn about practical positioning that accelerates marketing and sales: Work with April: https://www.aprildunford.com/contact April's newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/ April's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ April's Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/aprildunford/ April's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/aprildunford April's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@positioningshow—Get April Dunford's books and audiobooks: “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It”“Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win”Amazon US: https://amzn.to/49l0ZRY Amazon Canada: https://amzn.to/4ac9hgt Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/3vosDzQApple Books: https://apple.co/3xihSzGoogle Play: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=%22April%20Dunford%22&c=books Barnes & Noble:

In this episode of the Traction podcast, Alice Heiman, Founder, Strategist, and Podcast Host of Sales Strategies for CEOs, shares her expertise in sales, honed from a rich background that spans from teaching in public schools to excelling in corporate sales. Alice's journey from a public school teacher to a leading figure in complex corporate sales provides a unique perspective on sales strategies and customer relations.Alice discusses several key points:- The transition from education to sales and how teaching skills are beneficial in sales.- Importance of mindset change in sales, especially for CEO founders.- Utilizing networks and board advisors for business growth and sales strategies.- Emphasizing the role of sales as a team sport and the importance of a team approach in large deals.- The concept of No-Sell Selling and preparation before sales calls.- Challenges faced by sales leaders globally and strategies to overcome them.- Effective hiring and coaching strategies in sales.Resources Mentioned:Alice Heiman -https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/Sales Strategies for CEOs -https://www.linkedin.com/company/alice-heiman-llc/“Conceptual Selling” by Robert Miller and Stephen Heiman -https://www.amazon.com/Conceptual-Selling-Robert-B-Miller/dp/0446389064 “Strategic Selling” by Robert Miller and Stephen Heiman. -https://www.amazon.com/Strategic-Selling-Successful-Americas-Companies/dp/0446386278/ref=pd_bxgy_img_d_sccl_2/135-0551963-3670142?pd_rd_w=1pMvl&content-id=amzn1.sym.7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_p=7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_r=HBETANRAPEWTZA3KVZS9&pd_rd_wg=atzQP&pd_rd_r=e428d300-d512-424f-9219-3b22c6e3f5ef&pd_rd_i=0446386278&psc=1 “Obviously Awesome” by April Dunford -https://www.amazon.com/Obviously-Awesome-Product-Positioning-Customers/dp/1999023005“Growth IQ” by Tiffany Bova -https://www.amazon.com/Growth-IQ-Smarter-Choices-Business/dp/0525534407“The Experience Mindset” by Tiffany Bova -https://www.amazon.com/Experience-Mindset-Changing-Think-Growth/dp/059354269X“Sales Innovation Paradox” by Dr. Howard Dover -https://www.amazon.com/Sales-Innovation-Paradox-Harnessing-Performance/dp/1632996243Alice Heiman's podcast -https://www.youtube.com/@AliceHeimanThis episode is brought to you by:Leverage community-led growth to skyrocket your business. From “Grassroots to Greatness” by author Lloyed Lobo will help you master 13 game-changing rules from some of the most iconic brands in the world — like Apple, Atlassian, CrossFit, Harley-Davidson, HubSpot, Red Bull and many more — to attract superfans of your own that will propel you to new heights. Grab your copy today at FromGrassrootsToGreatness.com.Each year the U.S. and Canadian governments provide more than $20 billion in R&D tax credits and innovation incentives to fund businesses. But the application process is cumbersome, prone to costly audits and receiving the money can take as long as 16 months. Boast automates this process, enabling companies to get more money faster without the paperwork and audit risk. We don't get paid until you do! Find out if you qualify today at https://Boast.AI.Launch Academy is one of the top global tech hubs for international entrepreneurs and a designated organization for Canada's Startup Visa. Since 2012, Launch has worked with more than 6,000 entrepreneurs from over 100 countries, of which 300 have grown their startups to seed and Series A stage and raised over $2 billion in funding. To learn more about Launch's programs or the Canadian Startup Visa, visit https://LaunchAcademy.ca.Content Allies helps B2B companies build revenue-generating podcasts. We recommend them to any B2B company that is looking to launch or streamline its podcast production. Learn more at https://contentallies.com.#product #marketing #innovation #startup #generativeai #AI

 April Dunford is the founder of Ambient Strategy, a consulting firm that helps technology companies grow. She has led marketing, product, and sales teams at companies like IBM, Siebel, and Sybase. April's work is focused on early and growth-stage startups—recognizing that weak positioning can be the difference between success and failure. She also works with large global companies, helping them develop deeper positioning expertise in their product and marketing teams. April's best-selling book, Obviously Awesome, captures her ideas about positioning and provides a methodology that any startup can follow. Today, April is focused on giving back as much as she can. She mentors and advises dozens of startups and is an enthusiastic board member at a handful of startups. April resides in Toronto, Canada, where she enjoys spending time with her kids and small dog in a cabin in the woods. Today, April joins me to discuss positioning for B2B tech companies. She explains how to position a product to the current market, rather than the company's vision of the future. She discusses what product managers need to understand about their vision and the current market to craft a successful position. She explains why product positioning is most important in B2B and why positioning is different from messaging. We discuss the importance of positioning to improve marketing and sales performance and why you need to continually refine and evolve positioning over time. April also suggests the best way to develop a positioning thesis and calculate the value it will deliver to the customer. “The best way to test positioning if you're B2B and you have a sales team is to take that positioning and translate it into a sales pitch, then test it out on qualified prospects in a sales call.” - April Dunford This week on Innovation Talks: ●     How to explore the best positioning strategy for your company ●     How B2B tech companies can position themselves for their specific market ●     Why weak positioning makes your sales process harder ●     April's five components of positioning ●     April's methodology for positioning that any company can follow●     How to test your positioning ●     The benefits of structured sales pitches  Connect with April Dunford: ●     April Dunford's Website●     Book: Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It by April Dunford●     April Dunford on LinkedIn●     April Dunford on Twitter This Podcast is brought to you by Sopheon Thanks for tuning into this week's episode of Innovation Talks. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and leave a review wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Podcasts | TuneIn | GooglePlay | Stitcher | Spotify | iHeart Be sure to connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn, and share your favorite episodes on social media to help us reach more listeners, like you. For additional information around new product development or corporate innovation, sign up for Sopheon's newsletter where we share news and industry best practices monthly! The fastest way to do this is to go to sopheon.com and click here.

Jason Lemkin created and runs SaaStr, the world's largest community for B2B/SaaS founders, and is the managing director of SaaStr Fund, a $90 million venture capital firm specializing in early-stage enterprise investments. He is also the mastermind behind two major tech conferences each year—one in the Bay Area, drawing in over 15,000 people, and another in Europe, with a crowd of more than 3,000 SaaS executives, founders, and entrepreneurs. Before SaaStr, Jason wore many hats: CEO and co-founder of EchoSign (later bought by Adobe), vice president at Adobe Systems, co-founder and president of NanoGram Devices Corp., vice president of NeoPhotonics, and a senior director at BabyCenter. In our conversation, we discuss:• How far you should go without a salesperson• Signs it's time to hire salespeople• Why you need to hire two salespeople• How to compensate your salespeople• How to interview salespeople• When to hire a VP of Sales• How to prevent their flaming out• How to scale your sales org• How to improve the relationship between your sales and product teams• Much more—Brought to you by:• CommandBar—AI-powered user assistance for modern products and impatient users• Vanta—Automate compliance. 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Are you ready to navigate the shifting marketing landscape of 2024? In this episode I sit down with April Dunford, an authority on market positioning, to talk about crafting a value proposition that cuts through the noise. April brings her wealth of experience to the table, discussing not only the strategic pivot but also her journey from in-house marketing maven to sought-after consultant. Discover the hurdles she overcame in building a client base and the undeniable power of a robust professional network. Listen in as April reveals how public speaking and authoring a self-published book have cemented her status as an industry thought leader, and learn how you too can leverage podcasting to propel your business and personal brand to new heights. Join us for this insightful conversation that's all about positioning yourself for success in the tech world of 2024.Learn more about April:April Dunford is the world's leading expert on product positioning. She has worked with hundreds of fast-growing technology companies to accelerate their growth through clear, compelling positioning. Previously April has run marketing and product teams at a series of seven successful technology startups. She is also a board member, investor, and advisor to dozens of high-growth businesses and is the author of the bestselling book Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get it, Buy it, Love it.April's Links:Twitter: https://twitter.com/aprildunfordLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunfordYouTube: https://youtube.com/@positioningshowInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/aprildunford/Check out April's Books: https://www.aprildunford.com/books Connect with Veronica on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vromney/If you're serious about advancing your career in marketing and you're looking for some personal insights into how then I invite you to schedule a free Pathway to Promotion call with me: https://pathwaycall.com/If you found value in today's episode, I would appreciate it if you could leave a rating and review.

Geoffrey Moore is an author, speaker, and advisor, widely known for his seminal book Crossing the Chasm: Marketing and Selling Disruptive Products to Mainstream Customers, which many consider the most important book ever written on go-to-market strategy. Moore's work is focused on the market dynamics surrounding disruptive innovations, and how one overcomes the challenge of transitioning from serving early adopters to the mainstream. In this episode, we discuss:• What “crossing the chasm” means• What steps to take before you try crossing the chasm• The importance of winning a marquee customer• The role of executive sponsors in the sales process• The differences between visionaries and pragmatists, and how to build for each• Geoffrey's four go-to-market playbooks based on stage: Early Market, Bowling Alley, Tornado, and Main Street• The problem with discounting before crossing the chasm• “Deadly sins” to avoid when crossing the chasm—Brought to you by:• CommandBar—AI-powered user assistance for modern products and impatient users• WorkOS—An API platform for quickly adding enterprise features• Arcade Software—Create effortlessly beautiful demos in minutes—Find the full transcript at: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/geoffrey-moore-on-finding-your-beachhead-crossing-the-chasm-and-dominating-a-market/—Where to find Geoffrey Moore:• X: https://twitter.com/geoffreyamoore• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoffreyamoore/• LinkedIn posts: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoffreyamoore/recent-activity/articles/—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Geoffrey's background(04:03) What people often get wrong about Crossing the Chasm(05:58) Finding your beachhead segment(09:29) The four inflection points of the technology adoption lifestyle(15:45) Geoffrey's bonfire and bowling alley analogies(18:36) Steps to take before trying to cross the chasm(22:19) Signs you're ready to cross the chasm(25:19) Advice for startups on where to start(27:31) Thoughts on venture capital(27:53) A general timeline for crossing the chasm(30:52) What exactly is the “chasm”?(32:35) The difference between visionaries and pragmatists(36:05) Finding the compelling reason to buy(43:45) The Early Market playbook(45:46) The Bowling Alley playbook(48:39) Different sales approaches for early market and bowling alley(51:26) Changing the value state of the company(53:28) The Tornado playbook(57:35) Why combining playbooks doesn't work(59:10) Using generative AI in different market phases(01:03:02) The risks of discounting(01:04:21) Other “deadly sins” of crossing the chasm(01:09:09) Positioning in crossing the chasm(01:10:36) Product-led growth and crossing the chasm(01:13:54) The challenges of software and entrepreneurship(01:16:35) How Geoffrey's thinking has evolved(01:19:30) The importance of entrepreneurship and impact(01:20:42) His book The Infinite Staircase(01:23:58) Connect with Geoffrey Moore—Referenced:• Crossing the Chasm: Marketing and Selling Disruptive Products to Mainstream Customers: https://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Chasm-3rd-Disruptive-Mainstream/dp/0062292986• Oracle: https://www.oracle.com/• Documentum: https://www.opentext.com/products/documentum• Figma: https://www.figma.com/• Notion: https://www.notion.so/• Salesforce: https://www.salesforce.com/• Intel: https://www.intel.com/• Jason Fried challenges your thinking on fundraising, goals, growth, and more: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/jason-fried-challenges-your-thinking-on-fundraising-goals-growth-and-more/• The Mayo Clinic: https://www.mayoclinic.org/• Coda: https://coda.io/• An inside look at how Figma ships product: https://coda.io/@yuhki/figma-product-roadmap• Dylan Field on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylanfield/• Regis McKenna on Crunchbase: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/regis-mckenna-inc• Andrew Grove: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Grove• A step-by-step guide to crafting a sales pitch that wins | April Dunford (author of Obviously Awesome and Sales Pitch): https://www.lennyspodcast.com/a-step-by-step-guide-to-crafting-a-sales-pitch-that-wins-april-dunford-author-of-obviously-awesom/• Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win: https://www.amazon.com/Sales-Pitch-Craft-Story-Stand/dp/1999023021• B2B Go-to-Market Playbooks and the Technology Adoption Life Cycle: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/b2b-go-to-market-playbooks-technology-adoption-life-cycle-moore/• Juniper: https://www.juniper.net/us/en.html• Sal Khan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/khanacademy/• Khan Academy: https://www.khanacademy.org/• How the Star Wars Kessel Run Turns Han Solo Into a Time-Traveler: https://www.wired.com/2013/02/kessel-run-12-parsecs/• Atlassian: https://www.atlassian.com/• Martin Casado on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martincasado/• The Infinite Staircase: What the Universe Tells Us About Life, Ethics, and Mortality: https://www.amazon.com/Infinite-Staircase-Universe-Ethics-Mortality/dp/1950665984—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. 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What are the research methods and information you need to know to craft a great pitch?  Kipp and Kieran are joined by April Dunford (executive consultant, speaker and author) to dive into what goes into the framework for creating compelling sales pitches. Learn more on how to win more pitches than you lose, the importance of blending company perspective with discovering customer needs, and the importance of personalized AI assistance in sales. About April Dunford April Dunford is the author of the bestselling books, “Obviously Awesome” and “Sales Pitch”. She is the Founder of Rocket Launch Marketing & CEO of Ambient Strategy. Previously, she was VP of Marketing at high-growth startups and executive at IBM and Nortel. She is currently a public speaker and consultant.  Connect with April! Twitter https://twitter.com/aprildunford LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/ Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/positioning-with-april-dunford/id1690104435 Substack https://aprildunford.substack.com/ Website https://www.aprildunford.com/ Mentions ChatGPT https://chat.openai.com/ IBM https://www.ibm.com/ Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

April Dunford is the author of the best-seller, Obviously Awesome, How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, and Love It. April spent the first 25 years of her career as a startup executive running marketing, product, and sales teams. During that journey, April positioned, repositioned, and launched 16 different products. Today, April is a business owner. She's an independent consultant, and she's worked with more than 100 early and growth-stage startups to help them position their products. In this episode, you'll learn How she built her consulting business How she attracts high caliber clients The process she uses for qualifying them And April's experience publishing her 1st book Full transcript and show notes April's Website / Twitter / Instagram / YouTube / LinkedIn *** CONNECT

We're back this week with one of our most popular episodes of 2023, featuring April Dunford. Product positioning will make or break your startup. Go toe-to-toe with multinational trillion-dollar behemoths and the likelihood of success is minute. Restructure your approach to target a different group and you can one-day “dab [your] tears with the money”. Researched ways on how to develop your product position and still feel stuck? Don't fret! Yaniv and Chris are back this week with a super special guest - April Dunford, author of “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get it, Buy it, Love it” and podcast host “Positioning with April Dunford”. Sit back and get ready to take some notes as April, Chris and Yaniv break down product positioning for startup. Along the way she shares the concept of positioning baggage, the three styles of product positioning from her book, why product market fit is not a useful thing for startups - just a vibe created by VC, discuss examples of Salesforce and Snowflake and share snippets from Jack Trout's Positioning the Battle for Your Mind and Peter Thiel's Zero to One. There is so much to learn from this episode we highly recommend listening to it twice! Episode Links Order April's book “Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get it, Buy It, Love it”: https://www.amazon.com.au/Obviously-Awesome-Product-Positioning-Customers/dp/1999023005/  Checkout April's website: https://www.aprildunford.com/ Listen to April's podcast “Positioning with April Dunford”: https://www.positioning.show/ Follow April on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/  Follow April on Twitter: @aprildunford The Pact  Honour The Startup Podcast Pact! If you have listened to TSP and gotten value from it, please: Follow, rate, and review us in your listening app Follow us on YouTube Give us a public shout-out on LinkedIn or anywhere you have a social media following  Key links The Startup Podcast is sponsored by Vanta. Vanta helps businesses get and stay compliant by automating up to 90% of the work for the most in demand compliance frameworks. With over 200 integrations, you can easily monitor and secure the tools your business relies on. Go to www.vanta.com/tsp  for 20% off their incredible offer. Follow us on YouTube for full-video episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNjm1MTdjysRRV07fSf0yGg  Get your question in for our next Q&A episode: https://forms.gle/NZzgNWVLiFmwvFA2A The Startup Podcast website: https://tsp.show  Learn more about Chris and Yaniv Work 1:1 with Chris: http://chrissaad.com/advisory/  Follow Chris on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrissaad/  Follow Yaniv on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ybernstein/  Credits Lovingly handcrafted for the global startup community by: Editor: Justin McArthur Associate Producer: Aidan Cousins Intro Voice: Jeremiah Owyang  

In this week’s episode of The Breakout Growth Podcast, Sean Ellis and Ethan Garr chat with positioning expert, April Dunford, author of the best-selling books, “Obviously Awesome” and “Sales Pitch.” April had a successful career as a marketing and operations executive at companies including IBM and Nortel and it was in these roles that she developed her passion and approach to building effective positioning. Today she shares this passion and her knowledge as a consultant, speaker, and writer with companies around the world.  In “Sales Pitch”, April lays out her hypothesis that marketers have been taught storytelling that doesn’t work for sales. She says 60% of deals that are started are never finished so it’s often indecisiveness and the status quo that sales teams must work to overcome. Even if you are not focused on sales, you will find a lot of value in this discussion. Messaging and positioning are fundamental to growth and what we get to in this conversation is a deeper look into how businesses can differentiate themselves, help their audiences discover value, and ultimately break through the noise. What makes this especially fun and useful is that April isn’t afraid to take contrary and non-obvious positions. As an example, she doesn’t like the concept of Product/Market Fit, and since we do, it made for some good back-and-forth! So jump into this week’s episode of The Breakout Growth Podcast as we learn more about the art of effective positioning with April Dunford. And thanks for listening to the Breakout Growth Podcast. Don’t forget, to watch us and subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-K_CY4-IrZ_auEIs0j97zA/featuredWe discussed:* April's story from executive to “Positioning is my jam!”(06:46)* The problem with most sales pitches (09:44)* Why it matters that 60% of started deals are never finished (22:04)* Building and validating your sales Pitch (27:02)* Positioning isn’t static; how to keep it fresh (52:44)And much, much, more . . .  This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit seanellis.substack.com

Join me as I speak with April Dunford, the world's foremost expert in positioning for technology companies and the author of Obviously Awesome. Together, we explore the fascinating world of positioning and answer key questions like: What's the relationship between positioning, messaging, and go-to-market strategies? How does it tie into product market fit? And why should you prioritize it before lead generation? We also discuss signals of weak positioning, successful repositioning stories, and tips for early-stage founders. Tune in to learn about the three styles of positioning and way more. Chapters:  (00:00) Intro (02:23) Defining positioning and its relationship with messaging and go-to-market strategies (03:29) The relationship between positioning and product market fit (06:36) April's unconventional path to becoming a positioning expert (10:49) Prioritizing positioning before lead generation (13:32) Signals to watch out for weak positioning (19:47) Repositioning success stories (24:49) Starting with your best customers for great positioning (28:07) Customer discovery and interview tips (35:42) Positioning for early-stage founders (39:46) Positioning for multiple segments of products (43:56) The three styles of positioning (50:54) What comes after positioning: crafting the sales pitch (53:43) Lightning round Guest Contact Info: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.aprildunford.com/⁠⁠ Sponsor: This podcast is brought to you by ⁠⁠⁠grwth.co⁠⁠⁠. Grwth offers fractional CMOs, paired with best-in-class digital marketing execution to support early-stage startup success. With a focus on seed and series A companies, Grwth has helped a number of SaaS, digital health, and e-commerce startups build their go-to-market function and scale up. To learn more and book a free consultation, go to ⁠⁠⁠grwth.co⁠⁠⁠. Get in touch with Mosheh: ⁠⁠⁠linkedin.com/in/moshehp⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/MoshehP⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@pmfpod.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.pmfpod.com⁠

Have you ever wondered why, despite having amazing products, customers still struggle to understand your company's value?April Dunford, an authority on product positioning, discusses the critical role of positioning in sales and marketing. Known for her first book "Obviously Awesome" and her expertise in positioning, April shares her insights on why companies often struggle with positioning their products. She emphasizes that most companies have positioning, but it's not deliberate, leading to misalignment and missed opportunities. April highlights the transformative power of effective positioning, using an illustrative story from her early career where repositioning a product from enterprise CRM to CRM for investment banks led to significant business growth and acquisition by a major player.The episode underscores the common disconnect between how companies perceive their products and how customers understand them. April points out the importance of involving sales teams in positioning discussions, as they have direct insights into customer perceptions and competitors. And describes in her second book, Sales Pitch, how to translate the marketing work done for positioning into sales speak. April advises CEOs to routinely reassess their company's positioning, even if it seems satisfactory, to ensure alignment with market realities. She stresses the need for a cross-functional team approach to redefine positioning involving sales, marketing, and product teams. The episode serves as a crucial reminder for CEOs and sales leaders of the importance of clear and strategic positioning in today's competitive market. April Dunford's insights offer valuable guidance on how to approach this process thoughtfully and effectively to drive business growth and customer satisfaction.This podcast is a must listen and her books are both must reads. Chapters05:26 Lack of methodology and squishiness surrounding positioning in marketing0:09:02 Naming of April Dunford's books: "Obviously Awesome" and "Sales Pitch"11:12 Importance of aligning positioning with customer perception14:01 Components of positioning: competition, differentiation, value, customer, market19:07 Example of a company positioned as Enterprise CRM but found success in investment banking22:36 Shifting positioning to target specific industries led to success25:51 Understanding the buyer's perspective and guiding them through the buying process31:20 Buyers are overwhelmed with information and struggle to make decisions33:56 Poor positioning and difficult buying process on websites.39:07 Cross functional team approach to positioning.42:45 Leveraging product knowledge to identify unique value propositions.44:59 Characteristics of a Best Fit customer and market categories46:13 Mapping positioning to a sales narrative for effective storytellingSocial Links You can learn more about and connect with April Dunford in the links below.Connect with April on LinkedIn:(99+) April Dunford | LinkedInCheck out April's website:April Dunford - Positioning for B2B Tech CompaniesCheck out April's Podcast:Positioning With April DunfordCheck out April's NewsletterPositioning with April Dunford | SubstackYou can learn more about and connect with Alice Heiman in the links below.Connect with Alice on LinkedIn:(99+) Alice Heiman | LinkedInCheck out Alice's website:Alice Heiman - Alice HeimanAbout GuestI spent the first 25 years of my career as a startup executive, running marketing, product, and sales teams. I led teams at seven successful B2B technology startups. Most of those startups were acquired (DataMirror to IBM, Janna Systems to Siebel Systems, then SAP, Watcom to Sybase via Powersoft, to name a few), and I ran big teams at IBM, Siebel, Sybase, and others. The total of those acquisitions is more than two billion dollars. Across that journey, I positioned, re-positioned, and launched 16 products, and created dozens of sales pitches.I have a deep curiosity about what makes the difference between a winning product and a loser. Developing a systematic way of positioning technology products and companies has become my life's work. As a consultant, I have had the privilege of working with more than 200 companies, allowing me to go even deeper and broaden my positioning expertise. The bulk of my work is with growth-stage startups and larger technology companies. Companies where the stakes are high - and weak positioning can mean the difference between success or failure.My first book, Obviously Awesome - How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get it, Buy it, Love it (aprildunford.com), captures my ideas about positioning and a methodology for doing it that any startup can follow. It's become a best-seller and popular among entrepreneurs, product, and marketing folk. My second book, Sales Pitch, was designed to teach a step-by-step way of building a sales pitch that reflects that positioning, and helps make a clear compelling case for why prospects should pick you over the competition.I studied Engineering at the University of Waterloo. If you had told me back then that someday I would be an author, I would have said you were nuts. It turns out my grade 6 English teacher was wrong about the importance of grammar. I'm at the stage of my career where I'm trying to give back as much as I can. I am a mentor and advisor to dozens of startups and folks that work in them. I am also an enthusiastic board member at a handful of startups. I live in Toronto, Canada. I have kids, a small dog, and a cabin in the woods.

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This episode is for all of my Product Marketing friends

April Dunford is a speaker, mentor, podcaster, best-selling author, and beloved returning guest to the show. Last year, she joined me on the pod to discuss product positioning and differentiated value. Today, April offers invaluable insights from her latest book, Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win. We go deep on the art of effective pitching and selling, and April shares the specific framework she's used to successfully pitch products at companies like Google, IBM, Postman, and Epic Games. Together we discuss:• Tactical advice on pitch creation and testing• Real-life examples of companies transforming their narratives into successful sales strategies• How to combat customer inaction• How to become your prospect's guide in their buying journey• The importance of differentiated value• Marketing's role in the process• Why you should avoid FOMO as a sales strategy• Tips for handling objections—Brought to you by Composer—the AI-powered trading platform | Eppo—Run reliable, impactful experiments | LinkedIn Ads—Reach professionals and drive results for your business—Find the full transcript at: ⁠https://www.lennyspodcast.com/a-step-by-step-guide-to-crafting-a-sales-pitch-that-wins-april-dunford-author-of-obviously-awesom/⁠—Where to find April Dunford:• Website: https://www.aprildunford.com/• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprildunford/• Newsletter: https://aprildunford.substack.com/—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) April's background(03:46) Fixing poor positioning with storytelling at Help Scout(12:22) Pitch components: setup and differentiated value(14:13) Wrapping up the sales pitch(15:56) Handling objections effectively(19:13) Understanding buyer's mindset and market perception(25:46) Avoiding FOMO as a sales strategy(29:28) Lenny's stressful experience buying community forum software for Airbnb(31:04) Empowering champions within client businesses(34:36) Who this framework is useful for(36:38) Advice on working cross-functionally(38:59) Differentiated value defined with examples(44:16) Selling with calm confidence(46:19) Qualifying leads(48:31) April's thoughts on category creation(53:05) Geoffrey Moore's “bowling pin strategy”(55:21) Conclusion of the setup phase: sharing the perfect world(57:11) The follow-through: differentiated value with proof and objection refutation(1:00:21) Why sales pitches fail(1:01:30) Best practices for pitch testing(1:05:32) General timeline for positioning and pitch creation(1:06:50) Marketing's role in the process(1:08:38) The impact of developing a killer sales pitch(1:10:39) Andy Raskin's positioning framework(1:15:50) Lightning round—Referenced:•April Dunford on product positioning, segmentation, and optimizing your sales process: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/april-dunford-on-product-positioning-segmentation-and-optimizing-your-sales-process/• A Quickstart Guide to Positioning: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/positioning• Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning So Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It: https://www.amazon.com/Obviously-Awesome-Product-Positioning-Customers/dp/1999023005• Sales Pitch: How to Craft a Story to Stand Out and Win: https://www.amazon.com/Sales-Pitch-Craft-Story-Stand-ebook/dp/B0CHY6BNDN• Help Scout: https://www.helpscout.com/• Mastering Jobs Theory with Bob Moesta: https://www.positioning.show/mastering-jobs-theory-with-bob-moesta/• The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework): https://www.lennyspodcast.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-jtbd-bob-moesta-co-creator-of-the-framework/• Salesforce: https://www.salesforce.com/• Salesforce Completes Acquisition of Sales-Enablement Company LevelJump: https://www.salesforce.com/news/stories/leveljump-and-salesforce/• How to become a category pirate | Christopher Lochhead (author of Play Bigger, Niche Down, Category Pirates, more): https://www.lennyspodcast.com/how-to-become-a-category-pirate-christopher-lochhead-author-of-play-bigger-niche-down-category/• Siebel: https://docs.oracle.com/en/applications/siebel/index.html• Qualtrics: https://www.qualtrics.com/• Bowling Pin in Product Development: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bowling-pin-product-development-ashok-das/• Inside the Tornado: Strategies for Developing, Leveraging, and Surviving Hypergrowth Markets: https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Tornado-Strategies-Developing-Hypergrowth/dp/B000AAN4VM• The power of strategic narrative | Andy Raskin: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/the-power-of-strategic-narrative-andy-raskin/• La Product Conf: https://www.laproductconf.com/• Thiga: https://www.thiga.co/• The JOLT Effect: How High Performers Overcome Customer Indecision: https://www.amazon.com/JOLT-Effect-Performers-Overcome-Indecision/dp/0593538102• The Challenger Sale: Taking Control of the Customer Conversation: https://www.amazon.com/Challenger-Sale-Control-Customer-Conversation/dp/1591844355• The Challenger Customer: Selling to the Hidden Influencer Who Can Multiply Your Results: https://www.amazon.com/Challenger-Customer-Selling-Influencer-Multiply/dp/1591848156• Positioning: The Battle for Your Mind: https://www.amazon.com/Positioning-Battle-Your-Mind-Anniversary/dp/0071359168• Parasite on Amazon Prime: https://www.amazon.com/Parasite-English-Subtitled-Kang-Song/dp/B07YM14FRG• Snowpiercer on 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