Podcasts about Baijiu

Nǐ hǎo und herzlich willkommen zu einer neuen spannenden Expedition durch die wunderbare Welt des Weins. Lous und Jonas heutiges Ziel: das faszinierende Weinland China. Aber warum lohnt es sich überhaupt, das „Land der Mitte” auf dem Schirm zu haben? Für welche Rebsorten und Weinstile ist China bekannt? Und welche Herausforderung muss das Weinland meistern? All das weiß Lenz Maria Moser! Er stammt nicht nur aus der berühmten österreichischen Winzerfamilie Moser, sondern ist als Chief Winemaker beim Château Changyu Moser XV auch ein echter Experte, wenn's um hervorragende chinesische Weine geht. Also Ohren auf für die volle Packung Wissen! Wein der Woche: Wein-Genuss Dornfelder Rheinhessen Qualitätswein rot https://bit.ly/3QGUS4K Süffig und harmonisch im Geschmack, farbintensiv in der Optik. Für viele ist der Dornfelder die deutsche Antwort auf die Rotweine der Mittelmeerländer und gehört mit seiner zurückhaltenden Tannin- und Säurestruktur zu den anschmiegsamen Typen. Wein-Genuss Edition Dornfelder Barrique Rheinhessen Qualitätswein rot Trocken, elegant und harmonisch im Geschmack – und dennoch was ganz Besonderes! Denn mit seinen rauchigen Aromen passt dieser im Barrique ausgebaute Dornfelder hervorragend zu fleischhaltigen Gerichten wie Schwein aus dem Ofen oder einer deftigen Salami Pizza. Hier findest Du mehr Infos zum Chateau Changyu–Moser XV und zum Moser Family Cabernet Sauvignon: https://www.changyu-moser-xv.com/moser-family-cabernet-sauvignon Weinlexikon: B wie Baijiu Baijiu bezeichnet eine traditionelle chinesische Getreidespirituose, die beispielsweise aus Reis, Weizen oder Erbsen hergestellt wird. Sie gilt als chinesisches Nationalgetränk und fester Bestandteil der chinesischen Kultur. Der Geschmack und die Aromen variieren dabei je nach Art von süß und blumig bis fruchtig und würzig. Genau das Richtige für Deine Weinprobe und zum Üben von Verkostungen: Das Cheers! Aromarad https://www.edeka.de/services/edeka-medien/cheers-podcast/index.jsp Lust auf den perfekten Weinmoment? Mit den Cheers! Weinplaylisten findest Du tolle Musik zu jeder Flasche Wein https://open.spotify.com/user/31umv65e2qkqtw3xamou2qwcoska Möchtest Du uns eine Frage stellen, etwas loswerden oder ein Thema vorschlagen? Dann schreib uns gerne an cheers@edeka.de. Wir freuen uns, von Dir zu hören – Cheers! Weitere Infos zu unserem Podcast findest Du unter edeka.de/cheers. Besuche uns auch gerne auf Instagram https://www.instagram.com/cheers_weinpodcast/. Altershinweis: Dieser Podcast beschäftigt sich mit Wein und hat einen Bezug zu Alkohol. Der Inhalt ist ausschließlich an Personen ab 16 Jahren gerichtet.

Baijiu, the Chinese liquor, tastes so bad that you need something to take your mind off the foul burning that is coating your mouth and throat. Why not play some drinking games? In today's Mandarin podcast, you'll learn all about how to win face and make friends over a few rounds of watery beer. Episode link: https://www.chinesepod.com/1208

Noi ancora lo conosciamo poco, ma il Baijiu, leggendario distillato cinese, ha oltre 5.000 anni di vita.La sua nascita risale al periodo della dinastia Xia (2070-1600 a.C.), quando i cinesi iniziarono a sperimentare la fermentazione del sorgo e di altri cereali, gettando le basi per la produzione delle bevande alcoliche.

Meine letzte Sommerreise 2024 ist absolviert und ich habe noch mal einen ganz besonderen Ort in China besucht. Wofür dieser unter anderem bekannt ist und welche Rolle dabei der zweit wertvollste Börsenkonzern Chinas spielt, erfährst du in dieser Episode.
 Erwähnte Orte: - Guizhou (Provinz, in die ich gereist bin)
 - Guiyang (Hauptstadt von Guizhou)
 - Zhenyuan (meine zweite Reisedestination nach Guiyang)
 - Guangzhou (meine Heimatstadt)
 - Guangdong (meine Heimatprovinz)
 Erwähnte Namen: - Baijiu ("weißer Alkohol")
 - Kweichow Moutai / Guìzhōu Máotái (Chinesischer Baijiu-Hersteller)
 - Chishui-Fluss (wichtiger Nebenfluss des oberen Jangtse, dessen Wasser den feurigen Geschmack von Moutai ausmacht)
 - Moutai Flying Fairy (Flaggschiff-Produkt von Kweichow Moutai).

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While we wait for tomorrow's repo rate decision there are quite a few other interesting indicators and economic news to share. This episode is supported by Economic Research Southern Africa and the NWU Business School.

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If you regularly listen to The Indicator, you know China's economy is not doing great. Over the last few years, indicators like unemployment and local debt are up, and consumption and property sales are down. There is one big indicator that's been a bellwether for China's economy ... booze. One specific kind: Baijiu. In today's episode, a quick history on baijiu and how the liquor is a potent symbol for consumer confidence in China. Related Episodes: China's weakening economy in two Indicators The Beigie Awards: China Edition For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

If you regularly listen to The Indicator, you know China's economy is not doing great. Over the last few years, indicators like unemployment and local debt are up, and consumption and property sales are down. There is one big indicator that's been a bellwether for China's economy ... booze. One specific kind: Baijiu. In today's episode, a quick history on baijiu and how the liquor is a potent symbol for consumer confidence in China. Related Episodes: China's weakening economy in two Indicators The Beigie Awards: China Edition For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Baijiu (pronounced bye-j'yo) means “white spirits” in Mandarin. It is a diverse drinks category that includes all traditional Chinese grain spirits. Most baijiu is distilled from sorghum, but it can also be made from other crops. The techniques deployed in baijiu production vary greatly by region and style, and different styles of baijiu can be as distinct as whiskey is to tequila. Baijiu is the world's most popular liquor by volume. China's National Statistics Bureau estimates that the country produces about 12.9 billion liters (3.4B gal) of baijiu annually. Put another way, there is more baijiu produced each year than the combined total of vodka and whisky—numbers two and three, respectively. Baijiu and Western spirits, broadly defined, are fundamentally different alcohols, which makes Chinese spirits an exciting new addition to the international spirits world. Co-founder Derek Sandhaus joins Justin to discuss this new exciting, up-and-coming alco-bev brand!

We're diving into the world of Baijiu, the unique and storied Chinese spirit Baijiu. We'll explore the rich history, cultural significance, and distinct flavor profile of Ming River The Original Sichuan Baijiu. Our tasting session will delve into its unique characteristics, sharing our thoughts and experiences with this potent and intriguing beverage. Whether you're a seasoned Baijiu enthusiast or new to this spirit, this episode promises to be an enlightening and flavorful journey. Connect with us on social media: Chandler: Instagram: ChandlerDoesJokes Website: BumbleBearComedy.com Twitter: @JokesforTrees James: Twitter: @WhatFunnyFriend TikTok: @Living_Dad_Joke Instagram: @Living_Dad_Joke Facebook: Was That In Good Taste Grab a glass, tune in, and let's delve into the fascinating world of Ming River Baijiu together! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/was-that-in-good-taste/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/was-that-in-good-taste/support

Joanna and Zach discuss America's most popular cocktail, the Margarita. Specifically, can anything with agave in it be a Margarita, and is their an appetite for high-end versions of the cocktail? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review VinePair on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to podcast@vinepair.com. Thanks for listening, and be well.Zach is reading: Wine Gadgets: The Good, the Bad, and the Downright UnnecessaryJoanna is reading: Could Now Be the Time for Baijiu to Shine?Instagram: @adamteeter, @jcsciarrino, @zgeballe, @vinepair Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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主播：梅莉 | Anne歌曲 ：开场：Shake It Off (Taylor's Version)结尾：Love Story (Taylor's Version)*更多节目配乐，请在“网易云音乐”搜索“一席英语-老外来了歌单”。前段时间，一位在华生活的老外用“中国特色”写的a love letter（情书）在网上传播。这封love letter是什么内容呢？怎么会让老外们就纷纷转发呢？今天的节目我们就来聊一聊。这封“情书”都说了什么？这封“情书”中的用词，只有住在中国的老外才会懂，他们会觉得特别特别亲切而且有共鸣。这封love letter的内容是：My love, You make me happy everytime WechatYou are my Alibae My heart races like a high speed train everytime I see you Like a red packet, you make me smile I like how you carry me in your arms like a Taobao Package Baby, our love is stonger than Baijiu, hotter than Sanya! I will walk the entire Great Wall for you. Like shifu in a Didi, I will ride with you. Like oil in Chaofan, we will always be together Wo ai ni! 下面我们逐句来分析一下这封“情书”。You make me happy every time WeChat. 这句话意思其实是每一次我们聊天（we chat）的时候，你让我快乐。WeChat literally means “我们聊天”。WeChat是微信的英文名，这里是a play on words（一个文字游戏）。现在很多外国人为了可以跟他们的中国朋友们聊天，也是在用微信。You are my Alibae. He is playing with the words Alibaba and bae. 这里也是玩了一个文字游戏，把Alibaba（阿里巴巴）和bae组合成了Alibae。Bae means before anyone else. 意思是“把你放在首位”。My heart races like a high speed train everytime I see you. 每一次见到你的时候，我的心跳就像高铁一样快。High speed train 就是高铁。中国的高铁are very fast compared to many places abroad（跟国外很多地方的高铁比，快很多）。这一点，在老外们刚到中国的时候，对他们来说，that is quite surprising。因为即使是一些欧美国家也不会投入这么多资源来建设他们的public transit（公共交通），所以这点国内的高铁还是很给力的。Like a red packet, you make me smile. 就像是红包一样，你让我微笑。Red packet就是红包，we all have a little smile when we receive a red packet（当大家收到红包的时候，都会露出笑容）。I like how you carry me in your arms like a Taobao Package. 我喜欢你把我抱在怀里，就像抱着一个淘宝包裹那样。这一句真的是so romantic（太浪漫了）！We can all relate to it. 这一句相信很多人都会产生共鸣。When you receive your Taobao package（当你收到你的淘宝包裹时），很多人都会carry it with so much love。Baby, our love is stronger than Baijiu, hotter than Sanya! 亲爱的，我们的爱比白酒更烈，比三亚更火热。This one is pretty self-explanatory. 这一句不言而喻。白酒是a very very strong alcohol, 而三亚在中国南端，it is very hot。在这里，这位网友is comparing love to Baijiu and Sanya（把爱情比作了白酒和三亚）, strong and hot! • compare... to... 把……比作……I will walk the entire Great Wall for you. 我会为你走过整个长城。这是他的declaration of love（爱的宣言）。大家都知道长城是很长的，这里，这位网友is declaring his love by saying that he will walk it completely（通过宣告会走完长城，来表达他爱的决心）。Like shifu in a Didi, I will ride with you. 我会和你一起共度这段旅程，就像滴滴师傅那样。这里，他要表明的是他的承诺，he will be there through everything with his lover（他将和他的爱人一起度过一切）。Like oil in Chaofan, we will always be together. 就像炒饭中要放油，我会一直和你在一起。如果真的收到这样的一封信，可能会感觉有一点点cringe（难为情）。Cringe就有一种尴尬到脚趾抠地的感觉。如果想再给这封“情书”续写的话，梅莉想说：Like a代驾师傅，I will always make sure you get home safe。就像代驾师傅一样，我将永远确保你安全回家。请留言告诉我们：如果你想给这封“情书”续写，你想再加哪些“中国特色”内容呢？

主播：梅莉 | Wendi歌曲 ：Fake今天，我们聊一个近期热点话题——瑞幸新品“酱香拿铁”。1. “酱香拿铁”英语怎么说国外新闻媒体大多用的是“sauce-flavored latte” 。Latte是拿铁咖啡，sauce就是我们平时吃的调味酱，比方说chili sauce，辣椒酱，flavor就是香味或者味道的意思，那sauce-flavored就是有这种酱香味道的。你也可以直接说，Moutai-flavored latte，茅台风味的拿铁咖啡。茅台的英文名也挺有意思的，不是用的“茅”的拼音，而是Mou, Moutai。2. 酱香拿铁怎么那么火？It is a collaboration between the two Chinese beverage giants—Luckin Coffee and Moutai.它是中国两大beverage giants（饮品行业的巨头）的collaboration（联名）。这个新品一经上市，it was an instant hit（瞬间大火）。每天都有特别多的人去买，根本就抢不到，每天很早就显示已售罄。• beverage /ˈbevərɪdʒ/ n. 饮料• giant /ˈdʒaɪənt/ n. 大公司• collaboration /kəˌlæbəˈreɪʃ(ə)n/ n. 协作，合作It really created so much buzz on social media. 它在社交媒体上引起了很多轰动。And there are also so many hashtags on Weibo. 微博上有好多关于这个酱香拿铁的hashtag(话题)，每一个点击率都超高！Collaboration（联名）真的是a fresh and innovative way to make their product popular again（让产品变得流行的很创新的一种方式），这样做，对于联名的品牌彼此，达到了 win-win（双赢）。茅台近两年可没少搞联名。他们在2021年的时候推出了Moutai flavored ice cream（茅台冰淇凌），当时也是大获成功。They have been sold in over 160 Chinese cities，卖出了1000万杯。肯德基最近也和茅台出了联名，宣传语是“美酒加炸鸡，就爱KFC” 。“酱香拿铁”走红后，9月16日，茅台官宣与德芙推出酒心巧克力。看得出来，they are really trying to change the diversity of their products now （他们现在真的在努力改变他们产品的多样性），而且，取得的效果都很好。• diversity /daɪˈvɜ:rsəti/ n. 多样性3. 酱香拿铁——烈酒加咖啡国外媒体在报道的时候，说:Luckin is adding the fiery liquor to its lattes. 瑞幸咖啡里加了fiery liquor（烈酒）。fiery来自fire火这个词，那用fiery来形容食物或者酒就说明这个食物很辣，好像舌头着火了一样。• fiery /ˈfaɪəri/ adj. 激烈的；火热的• liquor /ˈlɪkər/ n. 烈性酒还报道说： Luckin coffee and Moutai have collaborated on a new product that spices up Luckin's coffee with Moutai baijiu.瑞幸咖啡和茅台合作开发了一种新产品，里面加入了茅台白酒。spicy up 这个用法很好，给……加味，让它变得有吸引力，或者更美味。比如说，you have a plain glass of water，你想让它变得好喝，you might add some flavorings like lemon to spice it up。酱香拿铁中加的茅台度数很高，it's a very strong liquor，但是瑞幸官方说里面的酒精浓度是低于0.5度的。虽然度数很低，但是官方还是不建议未成年人、孕妇以及驾驶人员饮用，据说这个酒精含量还是会被查出酒驾的。4. 咖啡与酒，哪个更受欢迎？中老年人会喝白酒多一些，年轻人也会喝酒，但是很少喝白酒，it is usually served in important gatherings（喝的话也是在重要的场合）。对于年轻人来说，咖啡是比较受欢迎的。Younger Chinese consumers definitely drink more coffee than Baijiu. 所以，这也就能解释，为什么the collaboration between Luckin Coffee and Moutai会那么成功了。在网上有个很火的词叫“早C晚A”，C stands for coffee and A for alcohol, 所以“早C晚A”就是说现在的年轻人早上喝咖啡晚上喝酒，当然喝酒一般都是小酌一杯休息一下。[之前我们做过关于外国咖啡文化的节目，大家感兴趣的话，可以在我们往期节目中搜索“咖啡”了解一下。]5. 外国人喜欢白酒吗？中国的白酒可不是the White Wine，White Wine refers to 白葡萄酒，而我们的白酒是Chinese Baijiu。中国的白酒根据酿造的原材料的不同有很多种不同的香型（aroma），分为： rice aroma 米香型light aroma 淡（清）香型strong aroma 浓香型sauce aroma 酱香型主播梅莉说，她见到的foreigners还没有几个会喜欢白酒的， because it's too strong（度数太高了）。大家可以在评论区给我们留言，分享你对酱香拿铁的想法。M: Until next time! Bye bye!W: Bye!

Welcome to Episode 1437 Stevie Kim moderates Clubhouse's Ambassadors Corner – In this episode Bella Ma interviews Eleonora Gottardi. These sessions are recorded from Clubhouse and replayed here on the Italian Wine Podcast! Listen in on this series as Italian Wine Ambassadors all over the world chat with Stevie and their chosen wine producer. Which producer would you interview if you had your pick? Co-Moderator - Bella Ma: IWA VIA HK 2022 Having spent her teenage years near the town of Moutai, Bella witnessed the power of Baijiu, fermented Sorghum juice, that brings people together. Her curiosity led her in her adolescence to wines, an exotic fermented grape juice. Having acquired experiences in Michelin starred restaurants in San Sebastián and HK, Bella fell deeply in love with Italian wines during a long and enlightening trip in 2021 against all the HK travel restrictions. Time spent at Contra Soarda with Eleonora was one of her defining moments. Currently, preparing the Italian wine experts exams, Bella manages a collective of wine businesses in HK that join forces to introduce the finest Italian growers into the market. To learn more visit: LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/bella-ma-696419178/ Instagram @isabella_ma Guest Bio – Elepnora Gottardi Eleonora grew up together with the vines her parents planted back in 1999 on the hills of Bassano del Grappa, in Veneto. Pursuing the family dream, she has been representing Contrà Soarda wines since early age and studied wine business in Geisenheim university (Rheingau, Germany), which led her to also represent a few premium German wine estates. After leaving Germany she established a wine export agency representing a few leading international producers in more than 70 world wine markets, including, obviously, her family wines. Authentic communication, strong personality and passion drive Eleonora's entrepreneurial spirit and willingness to bring Contrà Soarda wines in the very finest places in the world. To learn more visit: Facebook https://www.facebook.com/contrasoarda/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/contrasoarda/ Twitter @contrasoarda Website https://www.contrasoarda.it/ More about the moderator Stevie Kim: Stevie hosts Clubhouse sessions each week (visit Italian Wine Club & Wine Business on Clubhouse), these recorded sessions are then released on the podcast to immortalize them! She often also joins Professor Scienza in his shows to lend a hand keeping our Professor in check! You can also find her taking a hit for the team when she goes “On the Road”, all over the Italian countryside, visiting wineries and interviewing producers, enjoying their best food and wine – all in the name of bringing us great Pods! To find out more about Stevie Kim visit: Facebook: @steviekim222 Instagram: @steviekim222 Website: vinitalyinternational.com/wordpress/ Let's keep in touch! Follow us on our social media channels: Instagram @italianwinepodcast Facebook @ItalianWinePodcast Twitter @itawinepodcast Tiktok @MammaJumboShrimp LinkedIn @ItalianWinePodcast If you feel like helping us, donate here www.italianwinepodcast.com/donate-to-show/

Neste segundo episódio da Série sobre os 12 principais destilados do mundo, vamos explorar o destilado originado da China, o Baijiu. Essa bebida é conhecida por ser o destilado mais consumido no mundo todo! Saiba mais nesse episódio com Jairo Martins. Realização: Nume | Som S/A

Guanxi can be loosely understood as instrumental social relationships that form a network to be used by individuals for their personal benefit. Guanxi is a long-enduring part of Chinese society, but how is it used in a modern context. Is it still important for doing business? How should foreigners understand guanxi? And is guanxi now doing more harm than good in modern world?Chapters00:00: Intro2:18: Definitions  of Guanxi11:39: Origins of Guanxi19:03: Building Guanxi Relationships31:51: Guanxi in China's Business World40:58: Guanxi goes abroad?44:27: Negative Societal Effects of Guanxi49:Negative Societal Effects of Guanxi-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Sources- Guanxi: How China Workds, Yanjie Bian, 2019- Chinese Guanxi: An Integrative Review and New Directions for Future Research, Chao C. Chen,  Xiao-Ping Chen, and Shengsheng Huang, 2013- Cultivating Guanxi as a Foreign Investor Strategy, John A. Pearce II and Richard B. Robinson, Jr., 2000- Cultural and Organizational Antecedents of Guanxi: The Chinese Cases, Liang-Hung Lin, 2011- Entering Guanxi: A Business Ethical Dilemma in Mainland China?, Chenting Su and James E. Littlefield, 2001- Guanxi Networks in China: Its Importance and Future Trends, Jin Ai, 2006- Guanxi's Consequences: Personal Gains at Social Cost, Ying Fan, 2002- The Culture of Guanxi in a North China Village, Yunxiang Yan, 1996- Whither guanxi and social networks in China? A review of theory and practice, Jane Nolan & Chris Rowley, 2020- What Happens When the ‘Gaokao' Rewards Who, Not What, You Know, Sixth Tone, https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1005924- Qinghai Official Died After Sharing Seven Bottles of Baijiu, Sixth Tone, https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1012818- Bank Worker Slapped, Insulted for Not Drinking With Colleagues, Sixth Tone, https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1006093- Businesses benefiting from political connections harm China's economic growth, https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/businesses-benefitting-from-political-connections-could-harm-chinas-economic-growth/Support the showSign up for Buzzsprout to launch your podcasting journey: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=162442Subscribe to the Sinobabble Newsletter: https://sinobabble.substack.com/Support Sinobabble on Buy me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/Sinobabblepod

First up! This is a 2 parter, so for those of you who missed part 1, go back to the previous episode and start there! If you are ready to join us for Part 2 of Asian Rice Wines and Spirits. Then let's go! I'm Susan Schwartz, your drinking companion, and this is Lush Life Podcast, every week we are inspired to live life one cocktail at a time.We've discussed Sake, Shōchū, and Soju, now it's time for Baijiu! Our trusty guide has been no other than the wonder that is Marie Cheong-Thong, one of only eight spirit committee members of the IWSC, Chairman of the British Sake Association, a Council Member of the Association of Wine Educators, a member of both the Circle of Wine Writers and the Guild of Food Writers, Educator on Asian Rice wine and spirits at the Wine and Spirit Education Trust and so much more.By the way, did you know that you can now watch the podcast on Youtube, so check out the Lush Life Youtube Channel!! All of the past episodes are there, but also Season 7 - where you get to see us talk! How exciting is that! Almost as exciting as our episode today. China, here we come! Our cocktail of the week is the Fenjiu Bee's Knees.INGREDIENTS50ml of Fenjiu Fen Chiew 10-Year-Old 53%25ml lemon juice20ml honeyMETHODAdd all of the ingredients to a shakerAdd ice, then shake, shake, shakeStrain into a coupe or bird glass! You'll find this recipe, more cocktail recipes, and all the cocktails of the week at alushlifemanual.com, where you'll also find all the ingredients in our shop.Full Episode Details: https://alushlifemanual.com/asian-rice-wines-and-spirits-with-marie-cheong-thong-part-2-----Become a supporter of A Lush Life Manual for as little as $5 - all you have to do is go to patreon.com/lushlifeLush Life Merchandise is here - we're talking t-shirts, mugs, iPhone covers, duvet covers, iPad covers, and more covers for everything! And more! Produced by Simpler MediaFollow us on Twitter and InstagramGet great cocktail ideas on PinterestNew episodes every Tuesday, usually!!

Baijiu is China's national alcohol, and the world's most drunk spirit. Despite it's fearsome reputation amongst the uninitiated, there is more to baijiu than its fiery taste and aggressive ABV.Join us as we sample the major varieties of Baijiu, learn about its history, and discuss its future.A special thanks to Derek Sandhaus and his book Drunk in China. 

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From New York to Hong Kong to Shanghai, The Bridge takes you out to paint the town red. Special guest and international businessman of Hong Kong talks about the English tea and Beijing's Baijiu. We show you how to fashionably hobnob around the world.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Thank you for joining us for this special episode of Social Origin. Today you'll meet Ian, he's a Civil Engineer, Father, Husband, and now the Co-founder of Sanyou Tasmanian made baijiu - the first of its kind outside of China.Baijiu, which translates to ‘white spirit' or ‘white wine', is the national drink of China and the largest spirit category on the planet. 99% of baijiu produced never leaves China which for many centuries has made baijiu a relatively unknown spirit outside of the Asian continent. In this episode, Ian shares more on the age old tradition and unique characteristics of this spirit along with the significant role it plays in being the bedrock of gifting and celebration in Chinese culture.--Connect with Ian Sypkes Purchase a bottle or learn more here:  sanyoubaijiu.com.auConnect with Co-Host Daniel Alexander For information about Podcast Production or Digital Marketing visit: socialorigin.netJoin our Social Origin Community  

olive's drinks writer Hannah talks us through 10 alternative spirits to try including Axia derived from the resin of Greek mastic trees and Baijiu, China's national drink and one of the most widely drunk spirits in the world. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Even though Baijiu is the most popular spirit, by volume consumed, in the world, Americans don't really understand the category. Bill Isler, founder of Ming River Baijiu, took an interesting turn after studying in China for law. Setting out to work on business opportunities for folks coming into China, a shift into the hospitality industry came about. First starting as a volume bartender, a shift to focus on the tastier marks of Baijiu, led to a new bar project and the eventual creation of Ming River. This episode is a great deep dive into the category, where up is down, and left is right. The production details of Baijiu are unlike those of any other category. Bill and I sip through all 4 categories of Baijiu and learn about his life along the way. We chat about Beijing, cultural invitations, and funk.

I recently learned of Ashley Mac through an interview I read on https://drinkbaijiu.com/ where she spoke with such excitement about the category and the industry that it was inspiring to see someone thriving in the industry while sober. During our conversation I was floored to hear so many parts of my own story being told back to me. Starting life in the industry at 15 in a corporate restaurant, stopping drinking at 29, and the ways we're able to truly live life now that we're sober. I really can't thank her enough for sharing her story here, and I'm in awe of the growth she's able to experience. I'm so happy for you, Ashley. Ashley Mac or Amac is a Baltimore-based bartender. As the Bar Manager and AGM of NiHao, a modern, but traditional Chinese restaurant, Mac spends her time learning about and creating her Baijiu-centered bar program. Mac also prides herself with well thought out and cared for spirit-free options at her bar, as she is a sober bartender. Amac is also a Program Director of HEARD Baltimore, a non-profit organization for hospitality workers who are struggling with mental health or sobriety, and helps run HEARD Online, a weekly online mental health check-in for industry workers Monday nights via Zoom. For more information check out iheardyou.org Founded in 2016, the mission of Ben's Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse or addiction. By coming together, starting a dialogue, and acknowledging that substance abuse cannot be overcome by isolation and willpower alone, Ben's Friends hopes to write a new chapter in the lives of food and beverage professionals across the country. To order my n/a enamel pin from Mover & Shaker, head to tinyurl.com/4fm6r9v6

Was trinkt der klassische Freizeitpark Besucher? Und wo lagen die weltweiten Trends noch vor ein paar Jahren? All diese Fragen beantwortet uns Barmanager Jürgen Wörner, der heute immer noch gern selbst hinter der Theke steht. Welche Cocktails keine Kopfschmerzen verursachen und welches Alter perfekt für einen Whiskey ist, erfahrt ihr in der neuen Folge von „Reine Geschmacksache“. Jürgens Lieblingssongs: Journey - Don't Stop Believin' ACDC - Have a Drink on Me Pink Floyd - Wish You Where Here Keine Folge verpassen? "Reine Geschmacksache" abonnieren! Euch hat der Podcast gefallen? Gerne eine Bewertung abgeben! Abonniert unsere Playlist, um keinen Song zu verpassen: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2kTXhMkbgqISHiKambkahT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Our Christmas Special! Also celebrating one year of SlothCast, thank you for joining us on this debaucherous journey we set off on. To celebrate, Brendan and LowRes and Wolfman and Trevor and I all turned into Gremlins. Expect the most lewd and crude and rude and obnoxious and based this show has been to date. We hope you enjoyed Year One, and we'll see you all next year! Merry Christmas, Everyone!!!

The new top man at the world's most valuable liquor company means business. Read the article by Shen Xinyue, Sun Yanran and Kelsey Cheng: https://www.caixinglobal.com/2021-10-19/in-depth-the-volatile-cocktail-stirring-up-chinas-baijiu-market-101788732.html Narrated by Sylvia Franke.

In this episode, we talk with Pierre Delfosse, E-commerce Director at Pernod Ricard China, on the world's largest shopping festival, Double 11, which climaxes on the 11th of November of every year. We are still big in Japan. We are a lot bigger in Hong Kong (S.A.R.) and even bigger in the USA. In this episode we discuss: 1. What we shopped for Double 11 
 2. How has the spirits business evolved over the past 7years 
 3. What Chinese consumers drink, white, yellow, and brown. 
 4. Jiu Jiu or September 9 is Spirits Day in China 
 5. Imported spirits hold 1.5% of share of spirits (minuscule when you put into consideration how much Baijiu is drunk in China). 
 6. Success offline leads to greater success online, especially on that day – building brand is massively important 
 7. Double 11 is not an Alibaba thing alone, all platforms are Double 11 crazy 
 8. Building owned traffic and reducing dependency on the platforms. 
 9. Pierre enjoys Glenlivet and Cognac but sometimes cheats with a Blue Label. 
 10. Don't drink and drive. 
 Join us next week for another exciting show as we are investigating the evolution of sport. Music: "Bad Cough Syrup" by Bryce Whitwam: https://soundcloud.com/bryce-r-whitwam/bad-cough-syrup?si=cfb30a6e0c0e459da78b912bf60825ac Welcome to Shanghai Zhan, aka. Shanghai Station. The only station in Shanghai's world-famous metro that only exists as a podcast. Listen to Bryce Whitwam and Ali Zein Kazmi debate with guests on their experiences and aspirations for China. Bryce and Ali are connected to China for over 20 years and are still in Shanghai working in the industry. They are both fluent Mandarin speakers, with Bryce reading and writing, while Ali gets away with using his thick Beijing accent.

In partnership with the International Wine and Spirit Competition www.iwsc.net - David delves into the exciting world of Asian spirits, with a special focus on Shochu and Baijiu with special guests Antony Moss DipWSET MW, Qualifications Director at the WSET, Hannah Lanfear, spirits educator and founder of The Mixing Class and Shuro Kawano, PR Section Manager at Hamada Syuzou Distillery. In partnership with the International Wine and Spirit Competition www.iwsc.net – using the best in the world to judge the best in the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The new top man at the world's most valuable liquor company means business.Read the article by Shen Xinyue, Sun Yanran and Kelsey Cheng: https://www.caixinglobal.com/2021-10-19/in-depth-the-volatile-cocktail-stirring-up-chinas-baijiu-market-101788732.htmlNarrated by Sylvia Franke.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This seems familiar...oh wait it's another time loop movie, one of our favorite types of SciFi.  This time it's the Frank Grillo vehicle, Boss Level.  Available on Hulu, this was a really easy and fun watch.  It has comedy, action, weird Mel Gibson, Michelle Yeoh (a WW favorite), over 200 loops of the same day, and much more.  We also tried a spirit we've never had before but showed up in the movie, Baijiu...it's certainly intoxicating.

Xi's speech on boosting common prosperity. Cases connected to a group of eight people are reported in at least four provincial-level regions. Beijing gets the green light to open VPN services to foreign investors. Plus, Tsinghua Unigroup is in talks with seven strategic investors.

In this week's historical shot, get ready to learn a little about Baijiu, the famed spirit of China. From how it's made all the way to how it is served, surely there's something to learn for everyone. Gānbēi!Links:Reference Article 1linktr.ee/cocktail.time.machineEmail: cocktailtmboys@gmail.com

In this blockbuster Baijiu pairing and Chinese food smorgasbord, some of the topics we discuss with Brett Steigerwaldt and Derek Sandhaus include: The base grains, production methods, and flavor profiles of seven - count em - SEVEN different baijiu categories, including: rice aroma, light aroma, laobaigan, phoenix aroma, strong aroma, sauce aroma, and extra strong aroma. The relationship between baijiu and food, both at a basic level, and in the context of each different region and culinary tradition How different Baijiu styles “hack” the very foreign (to us) looking production method involving microbe-packed grain bricks called “Qu” and giant steamers to create flavors and aromas that are vastly different from one another. We also talk about what a phoenix smells like, how various traditional spicy and numbing ingredients affect how baijiu tastes, why food and drink exploration is an important act of cultural ambassadorship, And much, much more This episode is brought to you by Near Country Provisions. If you live in the Mid-Atlantic and want to enjoy ethically raised (and delicious) meat from local farmers delivered to your door every month, then you need Near Country in your life. Head over to NearCountry.com and enter the code BARCART when you sign up for your subscription to receive 2 free pounds of bacon or ground beef in your first delivery.

Now brought to you by Scout Magazine. Well this was a fun one.  James Grant, the newly crowned 2021 World Class Global Bartender Of The Year and his good friend and mentor, Jeff Savage, who himself came second at the 2019 World Class Global Finals distill at length their passion and adoration for what they do for a living and why they continue to pursue careers in this fickle industry. Essentially, they share a common ethos, a love of people.  Their words ring true and genuine in this conversation and it is wonderful to hear them dispense of their processes, secrets, pet peeves and common goals. You'll definitely gain plenty of insight throughout and most certainly a laugh or two.Hospitality isn't for everyone, but when you encounter and get to talk with those who truly love being apart of it, it is inspiring. Most people spend their lives searching for that one thing they really enjoy doing, and from those, only a select few get to do it for a living. These two fine men have achieved both so I hope you enjoy what they have to say.  I know I certainly did. You can find James Grant behind his bar Little Hong Kong (the bar inside the bar Baijiu) in Edmonton on Fridays and Saturdays. Go find him and get him to make you something special. Preferably stirred. You can find Jeff Savage behind his bar, Botanist, on the second floor of The Fairmont Pacific Rim Hotel in Vancouver. He's there Wednesday thru Saturday evenings. He leads with impeccable service and his drinks are second to none. Go say hello and get cozy. You won't be disappointed.***Scout is one of Vancouver's leading food and culture magazines. If you're wanting to learn more about the city's food and cultural sphere with regards to community news, new restaurant openings, essential guides to some of the city's best offerings as well as who's hiring, Scout is where you should go. They also have a sister website called Islandist. Same type of content only Island driven. That's Islandist.ca.We're proud to have Scout as our presenting sponsor as we believe what they “Scout out” is an excellent compliment to what we're offering here with Track and Food. Do check them out. scoutmagazine.ca 

Entreprendre, Revendre, Intraprendre en Chine, au coeur de la 2eme économie mondiale qui sera bientôt la 1ere  Sponsor: China Sesame Rep: helping foreign brands enter Chinese market by Olivier Stauff Vous voulez écouter cet épisode sur une autre plateforme? (Spotify, Youtube...)   - Principaux sujets abordés dans cet épisode: Arriver en Chine à 28 en 2010, habiter à Pékin, Caochangdi a coté du village des artistes 789  Rejoindre Groupon / Tencent, recevoir une offre de boulot « comme dans les films »  Connaitre une startup chinoise avec une croissance extreme: 3000 personnes engagées en 4 mois, ouverture de 40 bureaux en 6 mois  En chine, seul le résultat compte, la manière importe peu  Il faut faire acte de présence, ne pas avoir de vie privée, tu appartiens à ton Boss  Andrew Mason, fondateur de Groupon  Business à Guiyang arrosé au Baijiu: pleurer de l'alcool  Culture chinoise du travail: le 996 voir même le 997  Méritocratie, justifier sa place en tant qu'étranger  Proposer une stratégie, monter en grade diriger une division à 29 ans  Rencontrer son épouse chinoise chez Tencent  Complémentarité du couple dans le business: opération finances et marketing stratégie  2012, débuts de Wechat, voir une opportunité de business  Wechat, Weibo, one-to-one vs one-to-many  Vivre le process d'une MNA entre deux entités chinoises, luttes de pouvoir…  Avoir l'idée de monter sa boite: Curiosity China  Les deux écosystèmes Alibaba et Tencent, prismes e-commerce et produit / communication  刷榜 Shuabang, faux followers, techniques pour tricher sur l'internet chinois  e-commerce en Chine, KPI pour les marques  Clarins, Julien Chivassa, Tina Chan, Coach Il ne faut pas hésiter à engager des entrepreneurs  Croissance de l'entreprise, monter jusqu'à une centaine d'employés, ouverture de plusieurs bureaux  Entreprendre, 3 éléments clefs : Timing, Team, Idea  Pékin vs Shanghai, comparaison des deux écosystèmes  Négocier un rachat avec une grosse entreprise de média américaine, refuser l'offre mais apprendre et comprendre comment il faut s'organiser pour la prochaine fois  Négocier avec Farfetch et une entreprise Chinoise, le rachat par Farfetch  Comment revendre son entreprise, deal cash, stock options, earn out  Jose Noves, CEO de Farfetch, quelqu'un de solaire, visionnaire, avec une vision toujours positive de l'avenir  Judy Liu, femme d'Alexis devient CEO de Farfetch Chine   D'entrepreneurs, Redevenir des employés qui doivent reporter au siège à Londres  Recruter une équipe de management, importance du réseau, connaitre les bons profils, éviter les « shining CV »  Monter à 600 staffs en Chine  La chine est un marathon pas un sprint, c'est un marché ultra compétitif et violent ou les règles ne sont pas forcement respectées Aimer la chine, être curieux, travailler dur,   Etre au coeur de la 2eme économie mondiale qui sera bientôt la 1ere  Liens: Farfetch - Profil de Alexis Bonhomme sur Linkedin   Sesame Asie, un podcast par Raphael Seghier  Lien du Patreon  China Sesame Rep: helping foreign brands enter Chinese market by Olivier Stauff

Stephen Yuan is the host of Shades Of Yellow podcast and Bone Broth Soup podcast. He is also the creator of a new animated series about cryptocurrency called Ned & Nash. In this Chinese New Year episode we drink a lot of Baijiu. Join us on WeChat: THD_OfficialInstagram: thehonestdrink_Email: thehonestdrink@gmail.comFind us on: Apple, Spotify, 小宇宙, 网易云音乐, 喜马拉雅, Bilibili, YouTube...

Entreprendre, Revendre, Intraprendre en Chine, au coeur de la 2eme économie mondiale qui sera bientôt la 1ere  Sponsor: China Sesame Rep: helping foreign brands enter Chinese market by Olivier Stauff Vous voulez écouter cet épisode sur une autre plateforme? (Spotify, Youtube...)   - Principaux sujets abordés dans cet épisode: Arriver en Chine à 28 en 2010, habiter à Pékin, Caochangdi a coté du village des artistes 789  Rejoindre Groupon / Tencent, recevoir une offre de boulot « comme dans les films »  Connaitre une startup chinoise avec une croissance extreme: 3000 personnes engagées en 4 mois, ouverture de 40 bureaux en 6 mois  En chine, seul le résultat compte, la manière importe peu  Il faut faire acte de présence, ne pas avoir de vie privée, tu appartiens à ton Boss  Andrew Mason, fondateur de Groupon  Business à Guiyang arrosé au Baijiu: pleurer de l'alcool  Culture chinoise du travail: le 996 voir même le 997  Méritocratie, justifier sa place en tant qu'étranger  Proposer une stratégie, monter en grade diriger une division à 29 ans  Rencontrer son épouse chinoise chez Tencent  Complémentarité du couple dans le business: opération finances et marketing stratégie  2012, débuts de Wechat, voir une opportunité de business  Wechat, Weibo, one-to-one vs one-to-many  Vivre le process d'une MNA entre deux entités chinoises, luttes de pouvoir…  Avoir l'idée de monter sa boite: Curiosity China  Les deux écosystèmes Alibaba et Tencent, prismes e-commerce et produit / communication  刷榜 Shuabang, faux followers, techniques pour tricher sur l'internet chinois  e-commerce en Chine, KPI pour les marques  Clarins, Julien Chivassa, Tina Chan, Coach Il ne faut pas hésiter à engager des entrepreneurs  Croissance de l'entreprise, monter jusqu'à une centaine d'employés, ouverture de plusieurs bureaux  Entreprendre, 3 éléments clefs : Timing, Team, Idea  Pékin vs Shanghai, comparaison des deux écosystèmes  Négocier un rachat avec une grosse entreprise de média américaine, refuser l'offre mais apprendre et comprendre comment il faut s'organiser pour la prochaine fois  Négocier avec Farfetch et une entreprise Chinoise, le rachat par Farfetch  Comment revendre son entreprise, deal cash, stock options, earn out  Jose Noves, CEO de Farfetch, quelqu'un de solaire, visionnaire, avec une vision toujours positive de l'avenir  Judy Liu, femme d'Alexis devient CEO de Farfetch Chine   D'entrepreneurs, Redevenir des employés qui doivent reporter au siège à Londres  Recruter une équipe de management, importance du réseau, connaitre les bons profils, éviter les « shining CV »  Monter à 600 staffs en Chine  La chine est un marathon pas un sprint, c'est un marché ultra compétitif et violent ou les règles ne sont pas forcement respectées Aimer la chine, être curieux, travailler dur,   Etre au coeur de la 2eme économie mondiale qui sera bientôt la 1ere  Liens: Farfetch - Profil de Alexis Bonhomme sur Linkedin   Sesame Asie, un podcast par Raphael Seghier  Lien du Patreon  China Sesame Rep: helping foreign brands enter Chinese market by Olivier Stauff

Alcohol has shaped Chinese culture for thousands of years, influencing art, philosophy, politics and tradition. More recently, increasing alcohol consumption has been tied to changing political and economic conditions, with young Chinese consumers increasingly willing to try new drinks such as whisky, beer and wine. Whilst Baijiu remains the favourite tipple for many, sales are declining as a new generation of drinkers continue to associate it with business and banqueting culture. In this episode, we examine the preferences for alcoholic beverages in terms of taste and environment, paying particular attention to the major players reclaiming and reinterpreting Baijiu for the next generation. Our guest speaker for this episode is Bastien Ciocca, cofounder of San You and Hope & Sesame, awarded China's Bar of the Year 2020. Follow us and join the conversation: Instagram: @tongglobal Twitter: @tongdigital www.tongdigital.com

Stephen Yuan is the host of Shades Of Yellow podcast and Bone Broth Soup podcast.  He is also the creator of a new animated series about cryptocurrency called Ned & Nash.  In this Chinese New Year episode we drink a lot of Baijiu.     Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehonestdrink_/ Join us on WeChat: THD_Official Twitter: @HonestDrinkpodcast    

农历新年的脚步近了，酒馆挂起了红红火火的装饰。我们会在过年期间推出一系列年味十足的节目，来聊聊我们自己的文化??今天就从白酒“扫盲”开始，你知道白酒在英文里就是Baijiu吗？茅台的酱香又如何形容？酒馆不打烊，陪你过大年！

中国白酒英文名改为“Chinese Baijiu”；阿里国际站：去年交易额同比增长101%

中国白酒英文名改为“Chinese Baijiu”；阿里国际站：去年交易额同比增长101%

Wie stößt Du richtig an? Was solltest Du zum scharfen Essen trinken? Wie kam das Bier nach China? Wir klären Dich über die Trinksitten und Lieblingsgetränke in China auf.

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DJ Chozie Ma is the top selling EDM artist in China and Taiwan. Chozie, an Australian by birth, has spent over 22 years in Beijing, building the EDM scene from scratch, beginning with clubs and albums, as well as partnering with the man behind the music at the Beijing 2008 Olympics, to VVIP travel experiences, interactive domes, and organic skincare line Greenerways Organic. Show Notes Greenerways Organic Follow Chozie on Instagram | Facebook | WeChat "One Night in Beijing" (feat. Peyton) Video Theme music by: Ruel Morales Audio Transcript Brian Schoenborn 0:01 Hello, hello. Hey everybody. Our guest today is, he's had a pretty epic life. Let's put it that way. Truly a man of many hats from being the top selling electronic music DJ in both Taiwan and China, to owning some of the top clubs in Asia, as well as an expert, top of his game with vvip experiences. We're going to get into all of that stuff, as well as some other stuff that he's got going on. This dude's got so much stuff happening. It's kind of hard to wrap our arms around all of it. We're going to dive in as much as we can. So give it up for my friend, Chozie Ma. Brian Schoenborn 0:41 My name is Brian Schoenborn. I'm an explorer of people, places and culture. In my travels, spanning over 20 countries across four continents, I've had the pleasure of engaging in authentic conversations with amazingly interesting people. These are their stories, on location and unfiltered. Presented by 8B Media, this is Half the City. Chozie Ma 1:09 What's up? How you doing? Brian Schoenborn 1:11 Good, man. How are you? Chozie Ma 1:12 Happy to be here in LA. Brian Schoenborn 1:13 Dude, I'm so happy to see you, man. It's been it's been a minute, man. Chozie Ma 1:16 Yea, totally. Brian Schoenborn 1:17 Yeah. So guys, so first, let me take it back. We're having a little bit of technical difficulties. We're going mano today. We're improvising, adapting and overcoming. My, one of my dongles for my mic broke. So we've got one mic instead of two. No big deal. We just fucking roll with it. Right? So you might be hearing some background noise and stuff like that some cars going by or whatever, here and there. We're actually on location in Venice, Venice Beach, California. We're actually 100 yards from the beach. Chozie Ma 1:42 You can see the beach. Brian Schoenborn 1:43 You can see the beach. Chozie Ma 1:44 Yeah, it's sweet. Brian Schoenborn 1:45 We're right here. Chozie's in LA for business. Chozie Ma 1:50 Business and play. Brian Schoenborn 1:51 It just so happened that Chozie saw one of the first episodes out and I'm like, dude, I haven't seen I haven't talked to this guy like a year and I'm like, and he's like, yo, fuckin A. He liked it on my WeChat the Chinese social media, Chinese Facebook, whatever you wanna call it, like, dude, let's do this. Chozie Ma 2:05 Yeah. Brian Schoenborn 2:05 And he's like, yeah. And then he messaged me, he's like, Yo, I'm in Venice doing something. I'm like, dude, I'm in LA. Let's get together. You know, the whole concept of the show anyways is you know, I'm talking to people all over the world with amazingly interesting stories. And on location, right, so we're chillin, we're chillin in his place here, his studio here in Venice Beach. You can hear somebody doing some construction work behind us in the background. All good. No, it's all good. I don't care. I don't even care, man. It's the content. Chozie Ma 2:33 Yeah, that's it. Brian Schoenborn 2:33 You know, it's the authenticity of it. But I've known Chozie for four, four years? Chozie Ma 2:39 Yeah, it's been a minute. Brian Schoenborn 2:39 Three or four years, something like that. Chozie Ma 2:41 Yeah. From Beijing. Brian Schoenborn 2:42 Yeah, from Beijing, baby. Yeah, I've known Chozie since my time in Beijing and if you guys have been listening, you know, I spent four years there doing some stuff on my own, but Chozie…I mean, you look Chinese. But your English is so good. Do you like? Chozie Ma 2:59 Yes, I'm Chozie. Okay, so it stands for Chinese Aussie. So my father's Chinese my mom's Aussie. Grew up in Sydney. Graduated there, then made the move over to the mainland back back to the roots in 98. Brian Schoenborn 3:13 98? Chozie Ma 3:14 Yeah. Brian Schoenborn 3:14 Dude. So you're hitting what your 22nd year? Chozie Ma 3:16 Twenty-second year, yeah. Brian Schoenborn 3:17 My god, man. Chozie Ma 3:18 Zero to Hero. Brian Schoenborn 3:20 For real, like I can't even imagine like the changes. So, if you if you've never been to China, you've never been to Beijing or any of the other major cities. Ever since the, who was it? Who was, Deng Xiaoping? Chozie Ma 3:34 Yeah. Brian Schoenborn 3:34 When Deng Xiaoping started opening up the country. It was closed off for years, decades, right? It was just its own nationalist, no access in or out type country. And around the time of Deng Xiaoping, who was the leader of the Chinese party, back in the time with Nixon, I think Richard Nixon, the American president. Chozie Ma 3:55 Kissinger, I think, to make the formal transition. Brian Schoenborn 3:57 Well, he was a diplomat, the foreign relations guy. Chozie Ma 4:00 Right. Brian Schoenborn 4:02 But they started opening up, it was the great opening. So this was like 30, 40 years ago. And since then the growth in China has been explosive. Chozie Ma 4:10 Yeah, donkeys and carts to Ferraris and Lamborghinis. Brian Schoenborn 4:12 Yeah. Chozie Ma 4:13 Just like that. Brian Schoenborn 4:13 It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy and like so you see these areas like in Beijing for example. There's been so much growth that you know, one block you'll see these one story, they're called hutongs. They're like one story buildings that are anywhere between 600 and 1000 years old. Really cool spots. Chozie Ma 4:29 Really cool. Brian Schoenborn 4:30 History culture, all that good stuff. But a block away you'll see these skyscrapers with like neon lights that light up all night just like super like, I don't know you think like… Chozie Ma 4:40 Concrete jungle. Brian Schoenborn 4:41 Concrete jungle, but like to the extreme. like super super. Chozie Ma 4:44 Weird-ass designs, like the pants building that do things that hang over…I don't know. It's just Yeah, really. Architecture. But cool. You got the old and the new, in one city. Brian Schoenborn 4:57 It's kind of weird though. Like I feel like you know, in my time there, one of the things that I noticed was like, as modern as they become so quickly, as global as it become so quickly, from a technology, that kind of standpoint, money standpoint, I feel like there's still, like, there's still a transitioning period, in terms of maybe mentality, stuff like that. Like, you know, for example, um, you know, not good or bad, like, a lot of the stuff I talked about are constructs, right? Like, nothing is good, nothing is bad, just kind of what it is. But like you still see people like on the on the sidewalks of Beijing, that maybe do things that one culture might be like, whoa, like, what's going on? Like your jaws dropping that sort of thing. I'm not getting get into that here. But I get into it on my, on my other show, relentless, which is coming out, starting to come out in another month or two. Chozie Ma 5:49 Right. Brian Schoenborn 5:50 But there are things that might make your jaw drop, right, we're just like, but it's because it's so far removed from what you're used to with your culture in your constructs. Yeah, you know. But I just think it's interesting. As you know, things are happening. Things are changing whatever. Chozie Ma 6:04 Well you got to. I mean, that's the whole point of travel. Right? You want your jaw to drop. Brian Schoenborn 6:08 Right? Chozie Ma 6:08 Good or bad. Brian Schoenborn 6:09 That's, I mean, that's the thing, right? Chozie Ma 6:10 You're going to go somewhere and be like, Did you see that? Oh, wow, look at that, you know, it's just part of the whole cultural experience. Brian Schoenborn 6:16 Absolutely. Chozie Ma 6:16 And especially taking your kids out there and seeing just saying, you open your mind is the world like closed off into one bubble, right? Explore, travel. Brian Schoenborn 6:25 Dude, absolutely. Like, I'll never forget. The first time I came back to America. When I moved to Beijing. I grew up in a small town in Michigan, right. And so I so I went back and I bumped into this lady that I knew from a very young age, and she goes, Oh, Brian, she's like, What are you up to these days? What are you doing? And I go, Oh, you know, I'm living in China right now. I'm living in Beijing. And she goes, she looks me. She's like, China? China? Brian, I'm so scared for you. What do you are safe Ba ba ba ba it's communist Brian, all this stuff. I look at her husband, her husband standard that I look at I go Actually, it's pretty amazing country. I mean, it's super safe, feel safe. Chozie Ma 6:44 Yeah, real safe. Brian Schoenborn 7:03 People are welcoming. You know, if you try if you take a stab at learning a language that goes miles, you know, it goes such a long way. You know, it's a good time. And then her husband's like, brothers like, honey, you know, I was stationed in Japan and the Navy, right? He's like, I bet he's having the time of his life. Chozie Ma 7:25 I thought he was gonna say, Oh, honey, I have a Japanese wife. Or we have a half son now coming up. I mean, those things can happen. No, China is great. I mean, it's 22 years, as you said, and you know, I've seen it go from, you know, really, like I would say it wasn't really colorful when I was there. But it was exciting because I got there in 97 on a tour, and it was the last stop on an Asian tour. And we were in this club called Vogue 88. Henry Lee was the owner. And he basically just said, Why don't you move out here and take over my club? I was like 19 years old or something like that. Brian Schoenborn 8:06 Really? Chozie Ma 8:06 I had a crew called Yum Cha Cha. So there's five of us. We went back to Australia, we all looked at each other and said, why not? Brian Schoenborn 8:14 Fuck it. Chozie Ma 8:14 We're young, we can't speak the language. I mean, I'm Chinese, but I spoke Cantonese when I was growing. So when you move to China, it's Mandarin. And Cantonese was it was like non existent there. So it didn't really work. Brian Schoenborn 8:26 I mean, they're completely different languages. Chozie Ma 8:27 Totally different languages. So kind of were like, you know what, let's just give this a go. The crowd seemed quite International. It was it was it was like, you know, there wasn't that many foreigners there then. But every foreigner that was there was working for the embassy or a corporate job, right? Or students. And we were like, you know what, let's do it. So we went, we went through it. Three months later, we packed up things moved, Mom and Dad laughed. Dad's the Chinese that, you know, he's from that generation that left China back in the day, to give a better life to, you know, myself and himself. Brian Schoenborn 8:57 So he's like, what is this, some sick, sad joke? Chozie Ma 9:00 He was like, he'll be back. So they, they kept my car for about five years and then realized it's been five years keeping respect wasting space in the garage. Can we sell it. I'm like, yeah, go ahead, man. I'm already I'm settled here. So, so it's kind of funny because that generation, a lot of the kids, ABCs: American Born Chinese, Australian Born Chinese, Canadian Born Chinese. As they graduated and got older that you started seeing opportunity in China, and went back. And those times from like, 99 all the way to you know, the Olympics was just like this epic journey. Brian Schoenborn 9:33 2008 Olympics? Chozie Ma 9:33 2008 Olympics and it was just this epic journey of like, wow. And you could just use it as your oyster and do whatever you wanted if you had some creativity, and especially if you had something culturally valued valuable for the scene, dance scene or entertainment or like, you know, anything related to culture, culture and heritage, or bringing investment into China. Bringing foreign brands into China. Brian Schoenborn 9:58 Yep. Chozie Ma 9:59 You just kill it. Alright, so we're doing really well, I decided to go into the entertainment space and do clubs, music, things like that. And develop that that market, which has become more like, I look at it as probably one of the biggest in the world. Now, if you look at every DJ, they're all trying to go every Western artist is trying to collaborate with an Asian artist. Brian Schoenborn 10:15 Oh, absolutely. Chozie Ma 10:16 You know, so that's the volume, right? With volume comes money, monetizing products, things like that. Yeah, there's a lot of tricky things that go on in the market. But if you can maneuver through it. And I think the one thing that you just got to know about going to China is a lot of foreigners move there. They're still very hard headed, well, what would you call it? Brian Schoenborn 10:38 They're set in their ways. Chozie Ma 10:39 They're set in they're ways. Brian Schoenborn 10:40 Yeah, because I've lived in that bubble or whatever their culture is, and they expect everywhere to be just like that, right? Chozie Ma 10:45 So it's like, you know, maybe they have a good brand or a company or they've been bought out by a big expat company and getting that package that they didn't get somewhere else. The thing is, China's not going to change for you. You gotta change for China. Brian Schoenborn 10:57 Yeah, that's a hard lesson to learn. Tell you what, like I you know, because I think about you know, like I did a couple of or I had some I did some business in China myself. You know one thing I did, for example, was I produced this the soccer match right between Manchester United legends and Liverpool legends so these guys are 35 and up recently. Chozie Ma 11:18 Big game, I remember that. Brian Schoenborn 11:19 Big game, right? We put that on and we put out a four or five aside tournament Adelaide, and then an 11 a side friendly, in Melbourne. Chozie Ma 11:29 Yeah. Brian Schoenborn 11:31 And we and then we live stream that into China and Europe and other places. And we worked with Tencent, which is one of the biggest like they're bigger than Facebook guys. Like there's 10 cents huge. Chozie Ma 11:38 $1 trillion company. Brian Schoenborn 11:41 Yeah, they're one of the big three tech companies in China. But we live streamed through them. Great, you know, big reception. They're like, Oh, this is one of the best live streams we've ever we've ever had as far as quality and all that stuff. Awesome. Can't wait to work with you more. So then I take that information like all right, these guys want to get into China, right? These players want to play a match in China. I get something setup where we're getting ready to do a deal in Shenzhen, near Shenzhen. I forget the name of that, I kind of blocked it out, because it's a bad experience. But in a city right next to Shenzhen which is one of the you know this is tech hub one of the big tech hubs, right? Like that's where Apple products are made and suck that's right right across the tributary from Hong Kong. Chozie Ma 12:23 Right. Brian Schoenborn 12:25 And I went down there and I you know, we're going to put on this match was gonna be great. met up with this guy. Four different times flew down the middle of the four times he's he puts me up in this hotel that he owns. This guy's a big businessman. We're drinking like crazy because that's that's an important part of Chinese culture, right? Chozie Ma 12:41 Oh, yeah. By the way, a lot of people think Chinese can't drink. Brian Schoenborn 12:44 Oh, no. That's not true. Chozie Ma 12:46 They get the Asian glow whatever. Oh, no, no, the ones that are born there. Especially Beijingers and the girls drinking a session with him we Chinese rice wine. Brian Schoenborn 12:53 Dude. Baijiu? Chozie Ma 12:54 They will put you under the table so hard. Brian Schoenborn 12:55 Oh my god, dude. But that's but that's the whole point. Right? Like part of the part of building relationships and China is all about, it's called guanxi, right? Chozie Ma 13:03 Face. Chozie Ma 13:03 It means relationships or face or whatever. And it's Chinese people would rather do business with people that they've got a strong relationship with versus Chozie Ma 13:10 Or just put them under the table and made them vomit and then they're like, Okay, cool. You can hang. Brian Schoenborn 13:14 Yeah, exactly. That's exactly that's how you build it. A lot of times you sit on this new set of these plastic chairs and tables outside a restaurant eating like, you know, 20 cents of stick, barbecue kebabs, chuar. Drinking cheap beer, out comes the baiju like 12, one o'clock in the morning is rice wine and which is like 40 to 60% alcohol like it's unregulated so it could be anywhere between there. Chozie Ma 13:39 Yeah, 60, yeah, definitely. It's strong. Brian Schoenborn 13:41 shot after shot after shot after shot there's no like there's no time wasted. Chozie Ma 13:48 Yeah, I'm glad I've got my mom's liver I say the the western side liver. Yeah, cuz I'm half half so that's helped me a lot drinking in China. Brian Schoenborn 13:57 But yeah, but so like, you know, I'm doing that whole thing with this guy. Big businessman, he's got connections to the stadium and the local government and like all the thing, checking off all the boxes that you really need to do to conduct business in China. And we get to a point where we sign the contract, he's got to give us a 10% down within a week or 10 days or something like that. We can secure the players. Sign the contract, dude never shows up. Disappears, disappears. No money sent, not responding to anything. And it's like, you know, that was one of the hard lessons I learned about doing business in China. Is that by Western standards, or at least American standards, I'm sure Aussie is not not too different. But like you get that contract signed, it's a done deal. Chozie Ma 14:37 Yeah, yeah. Brian Schoenborn 14:38 Right? Whereas in China, it's a different set of rules. Chozie Ma 14:41 Yeah, I've definitely it's definitely going down that route route many times. But it's that same saying, you know, you get knocked down, get up again, I'm already situated there. My house is there. My friends are there. Businesses there. Brian Schoenborn 14:54 Yeah. Chozie Ma 14:55 I've just learned over the years how to maneuver through it and it's and yeah, I've definitely lost investment and time. Time is the most important thing. Brian Schoenborn 15:04 Yeah. Chozie Ma 15:04 And, you know, it's it's, it sucks. But you just got to kind of learn how to be better than that. And I tell you over the last couple of years, the whole IP and legal system protection for that is it's really good. Brian Schoenborn 15:19 Oh, dude, it's gotten a lot better over the last few years. Chozie Ma 15:21 They just really they've smartened up and it's like, this is business, get it done. The shitty part is like when you are pitching for a job, like in one of my businesses, which is the event business. Obviously, a lot of proposal work needs to be done. Brian Schoenborn 15:33 Yeah. Chozie Ma 15:34 So a lot of these companies or clients have different departments, like procurement departments. And they're very traditional. So you might have a full Western team, say, for example, in Volkswagen or something like that you're in a big Western company. So when you meet with them, you get the job you're talking to, obviously the more Western minded simio and things like that, sure. Love your technology. They love that your Western and Chinese and they love that you get the concept. Yep, boom, okay, I'm going to launch this and you're going to do this and that and like Yes, I'm going to do it. That for you. And I'm going to do that for you. Chozie Ma 16:02 And then it trickles down through the system to procurement in the German they usually bring in because it's kind of I think it's legal when you have, it's the law that you have to have a local Chinese as your, your finance department, to head that department right to sign the bills. And that person is trained in a way where the job is to save money for the company at all costs and save money, which means: no, I don't understand that concept, why is it cost that much? Because I can go online and look for I can go to five other companies and they say it costs this much, because other companies are trying to take your idea or they're fake faking the, the tech or something like that, the smaller companies. Brian Schoenborn 16:36 Uh huh. Chozie Ma 16:36 And so you get into these things where it's like now the budgets low and then this a few months later goes back to the big boss, and they call you, Hey, why are you Why have they changed the company? or Why are you not doing the job? You know, you said that this was way too expensive…and he's like, but I approved it and then and then it goes back again. So most companies will have like a second budget because of that fuckup. Brian Schoenborn 16:55 Right, right. Chozie Ma 16:56 And so they kind of like contingency, they know that that's going to happen. So that's a little bit tiring, but it is getting better. What I found is when I, we were doing all the proposals, we're a smaller boutique team. So we spent a lot of time and you know, proposals to that magnitude, the 3d they renders the videos that cost you about, you know, $20,000 to make good decent proposal, but you're getting a million dollar job. Brian Schoenborn 17:18 Right. Chozie Ma 17:18 Or a $2 million job at the end of it. Brian Schoenborn 17:19 Right. you know, that's a modest investment. Chozie Ma 17:20 It makes it makes sense. Yeah, but you don't know that. That's gonna wait, they keep asking you to change it. Someone's uncle has an event company, that's… Brian Schoenborn 17:28 That's the guanxi all over again. Chozie Ma 17:30 That person, right? So you're gonna like shit, then then your event pops up with all your ideas. And, you know, this is what I went through years ago. Brian Schoenborn 17:39 It still happens though. Chozie Ma 17:39 It still happens, but we just instead of going for it, my partner I just said, You know what, let's just deal with the ones that put a designer feet down. Put that basically that 10% down before. Brian Schoenborn 17:53 Yeah. Chozie Ma 17:53 And then if we get the job will deduct that from the main fee. So if you even take it away from me, at least I can pay for myself. If I can pay for my time. Brian Schoenborn 18:01 Yeah, exactly. Chozie Ma 18:02 I lost more than 50% of my clients when I started doing that. Brian Schoenborn 18:05 Oh, sure. Chozie Ma 18:05 Because they're like, oh shit, we can get free work from all these agencies, there's about 100 interns that are doing free work for them. Right? And then they're okay with that, because they've got so many other jobs. So we tailored it down, we lost a lot of clients, but then we just filtered it to good clients, and they're more than happy to give us that 10% because they know we're going to do the work for them. Brian Schoenborn 18:23 Yeah, exactly. Chozie Ma 18:24 Yeah. Brian Schoenborn 18:25 You know, if you're dealing with good client, legit companies, ones that understand the value of good design or, you know, high quality work, I think, you know, things that anybody can do, like, anyone can say, Hey, I'm gonna put a proposal together, right? But it's the design element, it's the craft work. It's the expertise that, you know, comes with a long, you know, many years of experience, many years of success and being able to develop your own personal brand to, right? On top of all that, I mean, that's kind of where, where there's a separation, right and yet, good companies will see that and they'll say, okay, we're willing to put that kind of money down because this person or this company, whatever has consistently been able to produce, right? Chozie Ma 19:08 And this and the speed of efficiency, everything right? There's no other uncle's company involved. I mean, but again that guanxi things is super, super important thing in China. It is all about face. And it is all about, like having that connection. And I think how I got those connections is I started, well, I went to Taiwan in 2000 with Avex records. Brian Schoenborn 19:33 Okay. Chozie Ma 19:33 I got sent over with the manager. And then he was just trying to pimp me off to different record labels. So I was just kind of like new to the music business. I've been DJing for many years. I wasn't really fucking with record labels, and I could write music, and I was already doing TV on Channel V. And then he was just like, he was literally pimping me from Sony to BMG to hear and that and then was sending me these 60, 70 page contracts in Chinese and they kind of knew I couldn't read Chinese. Brian Schoenborn 20:00 Oh shit. So they're like, sign your life away. Chozie Ma 20:02 He was saying sign sign sign. And this is like 10 year contracts, and I'm thinking that's= a bit weird. Now everyone signs 10 years and that's just really crazy? But um they didn't realize that my father after a few of these different careers he decided to study law and he's an academic scholar so he studied the entertainment law, pharmacy law, everything kind of law. So his way of saying well he's a traditional Chinese man so he doesn't really say, I love you son, and give you a hug. But his way of saying I love you is like send me that contract let me review it for you. So these major record labels didn't know I had that ammunition behind me. Brian Schoenborn 20:36 The secret weapon. Chozie Ma 20:37 And he just go through it and just rip it apart and send it back and then look at it and be like, Yeah, no, we can't sign this you know, he knows too much about it. So the manager was getting pissed. He's just kind of like, I'm gonna lose my my meal ticket here because he was just literally like, that's what he wanted from me. Brian Schoenborn 20:55 Oh, yeah. Cuz I mean, he's, he gets you signed and he gets his contingency fee or whatever. Right? Chozie Ma 20:59 Yeah, and and I was young and naive I didn't know the extent of the deal. He was probably signing the 80% of my royalties to him, I didn't know I was 20 something, right? And then I made a pretty famous celebrity there, this girl and she and we just within a week started dating and then within two weeks I moved in with her and she's like massive star. I didn't really know who she was, like, that's why I think she's she liked me because I didn't give a fuck about celebrities and and they will use that because I had my club in China two years before that. Chozie Ma 21:26 And all the celebrities: Quentin Tarantino, Oliver Stone. Everyone would come there, it was like the Viper Room of Beijing where everything went, right? Brian Schoenborn 21:32 Nice. Chozie Ma 21:33 So but I never talked like whatever I saw whatever was happening there I just was like treating everyone like a normal person so that's where it made a lot of artists want to work with me. Brian Schoenborn 21:41 Yeah. Chozie Ma 21:41 Oh shit, you're DJing? Maybe you want to write a track with me? Oh, let's do that. So kind of went along. and a month later Avex Records from Japan just kind of hit me up personally. Yo, we want to work with you. I'm like, yeah, I'm kind of turned off by the whole music thing you know, and it's all this melancholy tired like Taiwanese pop and Chinese pop. At that time, there wasn't really much dance music. The Pop is not even, like, pop it was like everything was sad song… Brian Schoenborn 22:06 Like sad love song. Chozie Ma 22:08 Everything was a love song, and I'm like shit. You want me to get in this game I want to, I want to change it. I'm wanna perform some house music, some breakbeat like, they looked at me and they're very progressive. Avex is a big progressive record and they had a label called house nation which was like all these cool Japanese female DJs and it's doing cool stuff trance that are in club. So they're like, What do you want? And luckily, the girl I was dating at the time, her team advised me on a few things. So I was very fortunate that they helped me they just said just do one year, one album deal with option to sign on for other deal, like other, but you're free. Own the royalties. They gave it to me. It was like what? After that, those people kind of clued up, and they're like, we're gonna sign this stuff for 10 years. Brian Schoenborn 22:50 Yeah, right. They're like we're locking him. Chozie Ma 22:52 Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna invest this much. If he doesn't make enough his first album. He's gonna work for us. He's even if he that album doesn't work. He's gonna work in the office writing songs for the next artist. Brian Schoenborn 23:00 Oh, really? Chozie Ma 23:00 Yeah, you brought, you owe money to the record labels. Like, if, everyone's hungry in China in Asia, right? And you're good looking. And you can write a song. But you can't act, you need to be a triple threat. They need to make revenue off you from everything, right? So a lot of these artists would come in, they invest a couple hundred thousand, the album would come out, wouldn't do so well. And then you'd find them just sitting, like they've got to pay off their debt. So they're still working. It sucks for a lot of people. Brian Schoenborn 23:26 That's crazy man. Chozie Ma 23:27 You know? So now the new Brian Schoenborn 23:28 Can you imagine what a slap in the face that would be? Like, I mean, you were you were successful. So you I don't think you've experienced that, right? But can you imagine… Chozie Ma 23:35 I saw it. Brian Schoenborn 23:37 I mean, me like somebody Yeah, somebody like one of your buddies or whatever, right? Like, maybe they had like an album that maybe a one hit wonder or something right? Like that one song went, but then everything else just kind of shit the bed and you see them sitting, sitting behind a computer, or whatever, you know, like Chozie Ma 23:52 It's tough. I mean, when we started label in 97 called Party People Committee. It was the first dance labeled in China for electronic and hip hop, and one of my boys that was coming up, amazing writer, composer, producer, rapper. He can rap in Chinese, English, and even in German, like awesome. Young Kin, his name is. When that happened, they promised him to release his album and mine at the same time with dance and Hip Hop one. They went with mine and unfortunately, he didn't get it. But he worked it. He worked and pushed me. And then, you know, you could see it. He wanted it. Like, you know, oh shit it's my time. Brian Schoenborn 23:53 Yeah, yeah, for sure. Chozie Ma 24:18 I've worked so hard at this shit and I'm talented, but young writing. He just flipped the switch. He just said, You know what, I'm still young, and I'm fucking great. I'm gonna go get my MBA. And then everyone looked at him going, you're gonna fucking own a record label. Now this guy's like, moved to Boston. still writing music, has a flipping house company, a real estate agency, killing it. You know what I mean? So he turned it into a positive a lot of other people just get depressed and be like, shit, man. I was I was good at that. All right, and then I've got this shows you your character. You've just got to fucking keep keep going man. Brian Schoenborn 25:02 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely, man. Chozie Ma 25:03 You'll get that break. Yeah, it's just tough. Brian Schoenborn 25:06 But it's one of those things like, whether it's the music business or whether it's like, film and TV or this shit or anything you do, right? Like, it's not, it's not about how many times you fall or get kicked in the face or whatever. It's about how it's how you respond to that. Brian Schoenborn 25:21 Right? It's like, how do you get up? Do you get up and say, okay, that was a fucking speed bump. I'm going to get over that shit and move forward, because this is what I want to do. Chozie Ma 25:21 Right. Chozie Ma 25:28 Yeah. Brian Schoenborn 25:29 Or does it happen so many times where you just like, all right, maybe this isn't for me. Maybe I should shift gears a little bit. You know, maybe this passion of mine is more of a hobby. Right? Or for whatever reason it's not working. Go another route. You know? Chozie Ma 25:44 Yeah, the girl that was like we had to do my album in 2007. And we had an artist coming from Taiwan, but she was a good friend of mine. She was like, Yeah, cool. I want to jump on your album. It's the first solo album in China for dance music. I love to be part of it. Then her mom, being the manager, found out that we were under kind of a bigger label. She saw some dollar signs. And we couldn't afford her at the last minute. She's like, I'm so sorry, man, at the end of the day, the managers getting there. And yeah, we can't do anything. We can give you a mate rate, but that's about it. Still expensive, because she's bit star. And we had the studio booked and we only had one month to use. And a friend came in and said, Look, there's this girl. She's still currently signed to a 10 year, she's still got about four years left on that, but she hasn't been doing anything because she got screwed over by the record label. But she can come sing vocals on you just you know, don't really mention her artist's name because her artist name is still owned by a label, right? Brian Schoenborn 26:39 But do you put your actual name? Chozie Ma 26:41 Just put her name. Brian Schoenborn 26:41 Or do you just anonymize it? Chozie Ma 26:43 Put her actual name, because she had an artist name but what's your actual name? And then we did that and she killed it. She came in the studio. I gave her the song, the lyrics and I just said you know what, just keep record on. She nailed it. I didn't even record the second take. We just edited over it. I was like, wow, this girl's great. Brian Schoenborn 26:58 Yeah. Chozie Ma 26:58 I like I have four more songs. With female vocals, could you do this for me? No worries. I'd love to do it so she smashes this out. Then she goes kind of dark for a while she she's still doing music. She's playing in club gigs with a little band stuff. Just you know keeping it going keeping her passion. Brian Schoenborn 27:13 Yep. Chozie Ma 27:13 Once that four year contract lifted off those record labels way. She, she was just like, boom and then…now her name's Tia Ray. I'm not sure if you heard her she's massive. Massive. Brian Schoenborn 27:25 Huge in China. Chozie Ma 27:26 She just stuck through it. Brian Schoenborn 27:27 Yeah. Chozie Ma 27:27 But she could see how hard that is. You know, you you you're stuck when you have with all these opportunities and you get out of it. Brian Schoenborn 27:33 Yeah. Chozie Ma 27:33 But she waited and now she prevailed and she's killing it to her respect to have and thank you for coming on my album. Brian Schoenborn 27:40 Shout out to Tia Ray, man. Chozie Ma 27:41 That's it. Brian Schoenborn 27:42 Respect. Chozie Ma 27:42 But um, you know, it's it's the industry it's and obviously now it's become so big, that they got all the…What is it? There's multi big groups with over like 10 guys or… Brian Schoenborn 27:53 Oh, yeah. BTS for example, there's like 8 dudes or something like that? Chozie Ma 27:56 Yeah, obviously before it was Japan…Taiwan would follow Japan, so they were the trendsetters and then China will follow the Taiwan. And now Taiwan's kind of fading out a bit. They're still good. They still got they still got their stars and megastars. But now China's started to create their own culture. Brian Schoenborn 28:11 Yeah. Chozie Ma 28:12 With hip hop. And hip hop, it's becoming huge. I mean, it's huge. But they creating their own culture. Brian Schoenborn 28:17 Yeah. Chozie Ma 28:18 Which is great, because it was more of a copy before. Brian Schoenborn 28:20 Oh, of course. Well, you know, I mean, that's kind of what China does, though. Or they've done you know, everyone thinks Oh, copycat China. But, you know, a lot of what they've done with that opening is like, they just haven't had, they haven't experienced a lot of these things. So a lot of it's like bringing this stuff in. Chozie Ma 28:33 Yeah. Brian Schoenborn 28:33 Kind of learning about it. And then taking it and making it their own. Chozie Ma 28:37 Yeah, right. It could be done so wrong in so many ways. Brian Schoenborn 28:40 Yeah, for sure. Chozie Ma 28:41 But at least now they've kind of they, they did it that way, then I think the government saw it was becoming too adapted from the American or Western hip hop culture, in ways of like, maybe they'll word it's kind of getting too out of control. Brian Schoenborn 28:55 Yeah. Chozie Ma 28:56 So they kind of banned it for a minute which is really crazy, right? Who bans hip hop like they banned the stuff. But they banned it and then they kind of cleaned it, right? So they cleaned it in a way. So now the guys that are on these big shows like China's Got Hip Hop, or, like, you know, these these kind of big shows, then now seen as like the ambassador's of clean hip hop. Brian Schoenborn 29:16 Yeah. Well, right. Because, because when they banned it was a couple of years ago, there's like that the China's Got Hip Hop show or whatever, right? Chozie Ma 29:22 Yeah, yeah, right. Brian Schoenborn 29:22 Like there was, I think the winner was like singing about like, I don't know, drugs, or gangs, or whatever it was, I mean, who knows whether he like actually meant the words that he was saying, or whether it was just taking the influence from Western hip hop culture, but it was something like that. And China's like, drugs, nope. Banned. This is bad for our culture. We don't want anything to do with hip hop and you're right, who does that? But…China can do that. Chozie Ma 29:45 It's hard because he pop is an expression of that. Right? Of what you want to say and and the street, you know, kind of Brian Schoenborn 29:51 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Chozie Ma 29:52 So I think that, you know, they've got now the commercial, pop hip hop, where they kind of just keep it a bit more tame. They go on the edges of things, but has made the underground scene so much stronger. So you got you got the clubs that are doing like these big nights and the tours with these, the hip hop groups, and they're still hardcore and good, because I think they do it more like online, where it's not on TV. When it's on TV, when it hits TV, it has to have that little bit more edge, you know, it's a bit more cleaner. So that's good because it created this whole subculture that's becoming very popular and you can see like the, you know, you go to Chengdu and you'd swear you think you're in Mexico, like everyone's kind of tatted up and… Brian Schoenborn 30:32 Really? Chozie Ma 30:33 They've just adapted that culture the style and they've got their own fashion brands that are using it and they're walking around with the pitbulls and all this kind of stuff, but it's that, and they got all the girls that follow them and it's this kind of thing and it's it's more of a fashion thing. That's their that's their lane and then they've got you know, everyone's subculture is becoming more defined. Brian Schoenborn 30:51 Yeah, yeah. Chozie Ma 30:51 And your crews are becoming more defined as electronic music you know all these kind of everything's got us got a scene now, huh? Yeah, solid seen a money making scene now. Brian Schoenborn 31:00 Yeah, for sure. Yeah, sure. That's crazy. I've never been to Chendu, man. Like that's one of the places where like, I really wanted to go when I was over there, you know on a consistent basis. I mean I just haven't made my way. I think I'm gonna get back there soon so yeah, it's supposed to be really cool i mean that's pandas are, right? Chozie Ma 31:17 Yes. Brian Schoenborn 31:18 Kind of mountainous it's like a small city of what 15, 20 million people? Chozie Ma 31:26 It's a small city. Yeah. Brian Schoenborn 31:27 Spicy food. I mean, that's, that's why I love that's my favorite food is like the, you know, spicy hot pot. You know, malaxiangguo. Chozie Ma 31:36 Oh. It's a it's spicy. Oh, yeah. You gotta be prepared for that. Yeah, yeah. Brian Schoenborn 31:40 Yeah, I've met so many chunky girls like all Brian, they're like, Can you eat spicy food and I'm like, give it to me. And they're like, they're always so impressed. I'm like, as you know… Chozie Ma 31:49 and because this a beautiful too. So when they say can you eat spicy onion? Yeah. The next day I was like, yeah, to to your assistant. I think you need to cancel my meetings. Just keep me close to a toilet. Brian Schoenborn 32:01 Exactly. That Chengdu spice is always a good idea coming in, but it's never a good idea coming out. Chozie Ma 32:11 It's it's real tough. Yeah. I mean, there's other food there, people, but like, it's just yeah, you gotta definitely try this. Brian Schoenborn 32:22 That's funny. You were saying earlier, you got the best selling dance album of all time in Taiwan and China, is that what that is? Chozie Ma 32:31 It was about 2002. When I was at Avex, so they gave me that idea. Brian Schoenborn 32:36 Yeah. Chozie Ma 32:37 I could have gone with, you know, so many options, but I thought, well, I'm playing house music and house is kind of new in Taiwan. Breakbeat hadn't reached Taiwan yet. So like Finger Licking, Stenton Warriors, you know, like, so Adam Freeland, like it was just kind of really cool. Brian Schoenborn 32:54 Yeah. Chozie Ma 32:54 Nu-school breaks. Basics is funky and it's got beats and it's just vocals and, so I was doing like three turntables sets and clubs and it's just mixing it up mashing it up. So the album itself is is one is, it's an EP of my Isle Formosa which is the first dance album, a dance song with a music video for an artist in Taiwan for dance music. Brian Schoenborn 33:16 Nice. Chozie Ma 33:16 In that category. And then the second CD was full live three turntable break beat mix for an hour. And then the third one was a live house mix of some of my favorite artists in the world but house music funky house vocal house classic house. Brian Schoenborn 33:33 Yeah, all of this would be called EDM now. Chozie Ma 33:35 Well, yeah, I mean, electronic dance music. Back then. Like, and still to this day, but you know, we had styles okay. That's a techno DJ. That's breakbeat DJ. That's a trance DJ. All that stuff, yeah. Brian Schoenborn 33:47 Jungle. Chozie Ma 33:47 Jungle, drum and bass. Everyone was defined, or like, this guy's a bit more versatile that Carl Cox, he can play everything. Brian Schoenborn 33:54 Yeah. Chozie Ma 33:54 He's known as the techno DJ, but the guy will go and fucking smash the classics of the house or hip hop. You know? It's more about being versatile. But as time went on, and I think just society dumbing down into things and just needed things more simplified. People came up with oh let's just call it EDM but that that EDM came up with that whole like that Ultra sound or that, like it's more of that yeah very commercial media. Brian Schoenborn 34:19 Right. Chozie Ma 34:20 It's not techno, it's not trance. It's not this. I don't know what is this is noise to me. Everybody fucking jump. There's no like this for me. There's no talent in that I like to see a DJ that actually produces something or like they're sets are not programmed. Brian Schoenborn 34:34 Right. Chozie Ma 34:34 Um, you know, so I kind of went a little bit disappointed in that culture. But then a good friend of mine that does some pretty big festivals and clubs in around the world. He basically was just like, look, it's still a business. Brian Schoenborn 34:47 Yeah. Chozie Ma 34:47 People are into it. I'm like, fuck, how do I flip the switch. I'm definitely not going to DJ this stuff. Brian Schoenborn 34:52 Well, right. Because if you're I mean, if you're not feeling, the creativity of that, or the creation of that, I mean, you still you made it but you've been in the business for you. Right. I mean, you can still flip that the mindset right and still, you know, rather than being in the creativity side of it, you can be more on the promotion or… Chozie Ma 35:09 Yeah, or be more of us behind the scenes in the tech. Because, I have a tech company, right? So we originally using those for high end events and projections and mapping and stuff like that. So like, why don't we just design the festivals and give tools to these EDM DJs? Brian Schoenborn 35:25 Oh, hell yeah, dude. Chozie Ma 35:25 Like, even though I don't like the music, but hey, why don't we make it more visually, right? Brian Schoenborn 35:30 You can help create the experience. Chozie Ma 35:32 Right? So if you look at it, like ultra know that they started a bit more, they went really big with it, Tomorrowland, big EDM sound, but then they started adding all the different stages. Carl Cox has rennaisance in there, which is doing more techno so then it's obviously like people for first few years. They're listening to the EDM, but then they'll they'll venture over to that stage. They're like, Oh, this is all right. So then the slowly changing and you can see it in the scene that it's moving. People are kind of like steering away. They want more quality and technology. They want more trance. IOr they want more this. So just giving them the promoters giving them more options. Brian Schoenborn 36:03 Yeah. Chozie Ma 36:03 It's better. If it's just giving them one sound and dumbing down the whole world. This is what it is. And unfortunately that's what happened in China. They didn't go through transition. They just went from Oh, let's just stop all house and techno most of the big clubs now and just put in these mainstream are because he's number one, that must be the music right now, or number two and that's what the sound is, noise. Right? So these clubs just followed it but now you can see it's been going like that for a couple of years in China. They're slowly sleeping in every now and then they'll flow in a really good techno DJ, or a really good underground DJ, and people are like digging it they're feeling it, oh this is good. I don't have to just stand there and from my hand in the air I like I can actually groove I can actually feel it you know kind of thing. So it's good. But yeah, we just and obviously the DJ's are all programmed. So they like the big festivals. And I get it because you paying so much money for the ticket. And the DJ needs to know when the fireworks is gonna go off, and it needs to queue and everything's queued up. And so it's very kind of rehearsed. But that's what like a normal concert is anyway, like if you went to Madonna whenever you're painting that she's live, but she knows exactly how cute. So that's how the, you know the big EDM DJ is emergency cue DJs. Brian Schoenborn 37:13 Yeah. Chozie Ma 37:13 So last year in Macau, we will part of, we designed an EDM festival could Jigsaw, some big names, Steve Aoki, all those guys were up there. But what I noticed is from the rave days back in the day, the DJ would never stop. It'd be 12 hours non stop music. Chozie Ma 37:28 the Djs would just go into play on play on blue yonder. And each DJ knew that they knew their time. If you're a warm up your warm up, yeah, if you're 10 pm, you're 10pm. Don't bang out music like it's 4am. A lot of these days in Asia, in China especially, I'll be doing my main set at 1am, and a new DJ would come in and he'd be like, shit, I'm gonna bang a 3am set out before Chozie goes on and I'm just like, dude, you're killing me here, mate. You know what I mean? So that's where we come into most DJs will have their warm up DJ tour with them, because they know this guy's gonna warm it up well, and it's respectful to be a warm up DJ for someone. Or if you're closing after someone, you close out for them. Brian Schoenborn 37:28 Yeah, sure. Brian Schoenborn 38:04 It's like an opening act like the comedy stage, or the band, you know, whatever. Chozie Ma 38:07 Exactly. Yeah, a lot of bedroom bangers, a lot of the younger DJ and I get that. Yeah, it's a transition it takes time. So this festival, we had, you know, 7, 8, 7, big name DJs. And each one of them had like a 10 to 12 minute gap between each show for changeover. I'm like, you know what, man, let's just keep the flow going. Brian Schoenborn 38:24 Yeah. Chozie Ma 38:25 But how do we do that? Because they're still gonna do the change of a sub kind of set up a whole hologram system. And I had DJs, two DJ is on left and right, DMC scratch styles and, we produced the technology where when the DJ scratches, we've got a camera on a hand and she can control the eight foot high hologram, so he or she's scratching. Brian Schoenborn 38:43 Oh really? Chozie Ma 38:44 I mean, the middle on drum pads. So we like we produce these 10 minute, 12 minute segment shows so the audience would just see this flow going through and then the next DJ would be ready then goes on. You know, so there was this awesome interaction of immersive experience. Because I think people are getting bored at these big festivals now like it's the same, same thing. Brian Schoenborn 39:04 It's the same shit. Chozie Ma 39:04 It's the same DJ, same DJs, at these festivals, but like they just reversing that sets around or the next stage is playing something similar or something like that. So I think I think now people just need more, more interaction. That's why bringing more technology into the shows is very important these days, people like now getting smarter. I think I think it got dumbed down. And now it's getting smarter because they're getting so big. Brian Schoenborn 39:25 Well, it's kind of like it gets dumbed down because that's, as much as I hate to say it, it's kind of like, you bring it down to a level where a lot of people can understand, right? A lot of people just easily get it. Then they come in and then as they get used to it, then you can start getting a little more nuanced with it or whatever. Brian Schoenborn 39:42 Getting a little smarter about it. Do you have do you have? Can you show me something like? Chozie Ma 39:42 Right. Chozie Ma 39:47 Oh, yeah, yeah, I can put up with those videos. I'll give them to you. Brian Schoenborn 39:49 Yeah. Chozie Ma 39:50 We can send some links up. Brian Schoenborn 39:51 Okay. Sure. Yeah, no, I'd love to check some of that stuff. Chozie Ma 39:53 Yeah, it's very cool. Brian Schoenborn 39:54 So this Jigsaw? Chozie Ma 39:56 Yeah, it was in Macau. So it was the second year. So we just Brian Schoenborn 39:59 When was that? Chozie Ma 40:00 That was December. Not, ninth last year. Brian Schoenborn 40:03 Oh, so a year ago. Chozie Ma 40:04 Yeah. Brian Schoenborn 40:05 Okay. Chozie Ma 40:05 So we, we will not be selector of the artists and we were the design team and the production team. So we came up with this, I have always I've always had this idea of designing a rave, but in a super high end concept so that the VIP areas were like, made it look like a TV rooms like that. Brian Schoenborn 40:25 Oh, sweet. Chozie Ma 40:25 So they were like they were made out of velvet, and they had all these crazy stuff. You had your own bar in each one. And so on the main stage on the left and right, I built to 60 meter VIP booths built into the stage. So you're on the same level as the stage but you can't get in like you've got a glass barrier. Brian Schoenborn 40:43 Oh, yeah. But you're that close though. Chozie Ma 40:45 But you're that close. And they went for a million renminbi each table and they were the first tables to sell out. Brian Schoenborn 40:50 What? Dude. Chozie Ma 40:50 In Asia whenever you got the highest table. It sells out the first… Brian Schoenborn 40:54 Wow. Chozie Ma 40:55 …and you can have I think it was 70 guests. Came with drinks. Came with girls. came with…it's Macau. Brian Schoenborn 41:00 Yeah, that's nuts. Chozie Ma 41:01 Came with everything. So they sold out. You had those and then it went down into different tiers. So you had like the end. I think it was 800,000 and the 500,000, then the four then two, and then one and 40,000, something like that. So but it was designed in the Venetian Convention Center. Massive. Brian Schoenborn 41:04 Oh yeah, dude, the Venetian's huge in Macau. Chozie Ma 41:21 It's the biggest… Brian Schoenborn 41:21 It's so big. Chozie Ma 41:22 I think its biggest, biggest Hotel in the world or something like that. Brian Schoenborn 41:24 It might be, yeah. Chozie Ma 41:25 13,000 rooms or something. Brian Schoenborn 41:26 Yeah, it's huge. Chozie Ma 41:27 The Convention Center is massive. So we were like, I wanted to feel like a rave. Because that's where my passion comes from. Brian Schoenborn 41:33 Yeah. Chozie Ma 41:33 But like you wanted to give it that super high end service. Brian Schoenborn 41:36 Yeah. Chozie Ma 41:37 So we went in, and we just, we just did this crazy design and made it all cool. And it was cool, man, people just like digging it. But I had that rave feel. Brian Schoenborn 41:44 Yeah. Chozie Ma 41:45 The technology and the Holograms and the lasers. And the LED is all over the place and interactive tables for ordering drinks and stuff like that. So it's cool. So we're just tried to take that technology to another level. Brian Schoenborn 41:56 Yeah, I want to back up a second. I just want to explain because a lot of the listeners are Western, so maybe they haven't been to China. So I want to explain a couple of things real quick. So first, he's talking about selling a table for 1 million RMB. That's Chinese, that's the Chinese currency. If you…rough, rough. Chozie Ma 42:12 Rough conversion? Brian Schoenborn 42:15 Is probably about 200,000ish? $200,000, something like that? Chozie Ma 42:24 143,000 for one table. Brian Schoenborn 42:27 143,000 for one table, right? That's, that's ridiculous. That's ridiculously expensive. Okay? So that's the first thing. Second thing is he's talking about how it's kind of KTV styled. Right? So KTV is not really a big thing in America. Chozie Ma 42:41 Right, right. Brian Schoenborn 42:42 Yeah, you might find out a few spots. Like there's a couple of spots in LA, a couple of spots in New York, really where they were the Asian populations are, you might find a few here and there. But KTV guys essentially, like Americans know karaoke, right? Chozie Ma 42:54 Right. Brian Schoenborn 42:54 The karaoke that we're used to is we go to a bar and there's a karaoke night. So like one night, there's a microphone and the words and like one person at a time sings in front of the entire bar and, you know, in front of strangers and whatever else, right? KTV is just like that. Except there's, there's these buildings like in China, there's these buildings all over the place with dozens of rooms. Chozie Ma 43:16 Like three, 400 rooms. Brian Schoenborn 43:18 Three, 400 rooms in one building. And each room has its own karaoke place. Tables, couches, three microphones, just you and your friends or whatever it is, you know, it could be anywhere between like two and like 20 people something like that. Chozie Ma 43:32 Yeah, you got small rooms and you got themed rooms. Brian Schoenborn 43:34 You sit around you play games, and you drank. Chozie Ma 43:36 Oh, then there's even a free buffet. Like you got meal times. Brian Schoenborn 43:40 Yeah, it's it's super like it can be super cheap to like, you can pay like 20 bucks for like four hours. Chozie Ma 43:45 Yeah, yeah definitely. Brian Schoenborn 43:45 Something like that. But KTV is a huge thing in China. So when he's talking about doing these super high end KTV rooms, right next to the stage, you know, separated by nothing but a glass wall. Chozie Ma 43:57 Well just kind of like a fence. Brian Schoenborn 43:58 Yeah, whatever. It is. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's like, that's like the perfect thing for like that crowd. Chozie Ma 44:05 You know, you've, you've kept the KTV experience to the listeners very PG. Brian Schoenborn 44:09 Oh yeah. Chozie Ma 44:10 So there's a, Brian Schoenborn 44:11 There's dirty KTV too, of course. Chozie Ma 44:13 So the KTV that I designed off is not the dirty side, it's just that you've got these crazy rooms that are, you know, you still paying in up to like 20,000, $30,000 on a night and you go in there and it's like kind of very…hyou could all it gaudy. It's kind of like very velvety. Brian Schoenborn 44:33 Gaudy is a good word for it. Chozie Ma 44:33 And very like chandeliers and, Brian Schoenborn 44:36 Like a 1970s club. Chozie Ma 44:37 Yeah, so you've got that and then you've got the more modern ones. But then it comes in with you get girls. I mean, they come in and you can't sleep with them or anything like they're just hosts. Just like a strip club. Brian Schoenborn 44:48 They are hoooosts. Chozie Ma 44:48 They don't take the clothes off. They don't, you can't grab them. They just come in and they drink with you and they sing for you. Brian Schoenborn 44:54 Yeah. Chozie Ma 44:54 So it's more about a business entertainment. It's more about taking your clients there. Brian Schoenborn 44:58 Yeah. Chozie Ma 44:58 You're drinking there and all you take You just get to buddy thing you just go hang out. Brian Schoenborn 45:03 It's like the boys club kind of thing. Chozie Ma 45:05 It's a boy's club, but, in saying that, you think you think like maybe the wives and the girlfriends would get angry. But in China, they don't, because they have yadian, which is the KTV for women and Ya means Duck, so it's a duck house. So chicken means the girls in those places, this is a Chinese translation, so I'm not trying to say that to where it is and, and discuss people but it's just a translation. Brian Schoenborn 45:29 Yeah. Chozie Ma 45:29 So what I'm saying is that the men have their place to go for entertaining. And I'm telling you can't sleep with them. Brian Schoenborn 45:35 No, you don't, you don't. But the interesting thing about Chozie Ma 45:38 The women have their version. So they go out and have a girls night. Brian Schoenborn 45:42 Right? Right. Chozie Ma 45:42 And the guys go out and they have thier guy's night. Brian Schoenborn 45:43 And then they get these male or female hosts, whatever. Like I remember I've been to a couple of them too. And it's like right after you get situated in the KTV room, whoever works there, they open the door, just this parade of women goes through Chozie Ma 45:55 Yeah, the mama sun. Brian Schoenborn 45:58 Here comes this parade of women and basically, they're all pretty much wearing the same outfit, like the uniform, right? Chozie Ma 46:02 Yeah yeah yeah. Brian Schoenborn 46:03 But it's like this, you know, like I remember seeing like this little like, like dress like a yellowish dress, it was kind of form fitting at the top and maybe like a like a roughly thing. I don't want to say like a two two, that's a bit extreme, but you know, kind of like something like that. Chozie Ma 46:15 Yeah, their version of sexy. Brian Schoenborn 46:16 Fluffy or whatever. Where it's, you know, a little fluffier on the bottom. This is what I'm recalling. You know, it's been a year since I've been back, since I've been there. But yeah, so they bring out this parade of women and you basically you point and you pick pick which one you like, and they'll they'll hang out with you the whole night. And they'll pour drinks for you. Chozie Ma 46:32 I mean, it might some people might be getting put off by this but that they're not there. Brian Schoenborn 46:38 It's not it's not a brothel. Chozie Ma 46:39 Yeah, prostitution, there's a working there. Brian Schoenborn 46:42 It's just straight up entertainment. Chozie Ma 46:43 It's completely legal, like they've got benefits. It's a job you know, so so but it's like it is a good place for business and things. But my point is I they're very extravagant, the rooms, so I wanted to take that extravagance not the girls, the extravagance to a rave because I think the ballers that would buy that table are used to that kind of situation. So you have to dump like, you have to demographic, Brian Schoenborn 47:07 You got to go with what they like. Chozie Ma 47:08 With that like that like so I was like, how am I going to sell these tables for a million? Brian Schoenborn 47:11 Yep. Chozie Ma 47:12 Okay, the clientele the guys that go to these kind of places. As soon as I advertised that, that style of K, of that VIP they sold out in like a minute both of them. Brian Schoenborn 47:23 Hell yeah. Chozie Ma 47:24 You know what I mean? Like boom, done. And then all the VIP sold out, and so it's kind of like, all right, we're on the right track here and designing. So design has become a big thing for us for events and things like that. Brian Schoenborn 47:33 Well, that's cool, too. Because like once you have success with something like that, I mean, that concept that's gonna be pretty easy to duplicate, right? Chozie Ma 47:40 Yeah. Brian Schoenborn 47:40 I mean, so then you're just like, okay. Chozie Ma 47:42 For us. We've done it once we got it. We want to do the next thing again. Brian Schoenborn 47:45 Sure, yeah. Chozie Ma 47:46 More tech into it, or we add more, but I think it's all comes down to service. I think the biggest thing lacking in festivals in China, no matter they've got the budgets and the people. The service seems to be a little bit off. So we try to spend a bit more time on training and investment on the on the server. So we tell our clients, you know what, maybe drop one of the DJs. And you got another couple hundred thousand there. Brian Schoenborn 48:09 Yeah. Chozie Ma 48:09 Like, let's put that into really good bar management, better drinks into better food, you know, because I think you need that. Brian Schoenborn 48:15 Real alcohol. Chozie Ma 48:16 Real alcohol. Exactly. Because there's been a lot of fake alcohol. Brian Schoenborn 48:18 There's a lot of fake alcohol in China. Chozie Ma 48:20 Yeah. So, you know, just like trying to make the experience better for people. And I think that's just, it just goes with anything. It should it should be like that. If you're paying for something good. You need to be that lead with what you pay for. Brian Schoenborn 48:34 Nice. So are you working on anything else experience wise right now? Chozie Ma 48:38 Yes. So. So I mean, people might be thinking, What was he talking about experience and DJing, so… Brian Schoenborn 48:44 No, that's, that's awesome. Like, it's incredible stuff because Chozie Ma 48:46 No, so I'm trying to get to where I'll experience the experience in the tech comes from. Brian Schoenborn 48:50 Oh, okay. Chozie Ma 48:51 So I have a company called Article Projects International. And we started in 1995 doing rave parties in Sydney. So it was Chris Sefton. The founder was just doing lasers. I was the kind of guy breaking into the warehouses and, and and bringing like the DJs and just doing these underground raves, right? Slowly making money as teenagers and turned it into a business. So we've started we've started doing attractions, entertainment venues, and Chris started developing more and more technologies and we became into, into Asia. We built the Fountain of Wealth in Singapore. Suntech City as an attraction, world's largest water screen projection mapping. Brian Schoenborn 49:27 Nice. Chozie Ma 49:28 And then we just kept going and going with in 2005, Zhang Yimou, the director of the Beijing 2008 Olympics and China's claim to fame of most famous director in China. Most respected. Brian Schoenborn 49:42 He was the one

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