Podcast appearances and mentions of gary halbert

He says, how do you inspire to create new stuff and trainings for your clients without modeling the new guy, modeling the new guy? Dude, I don't care what the new guys are doing. I care about what I learned from that guy, Albert Lasker. And from that other guy, David Ogilvy. And from that guy, Claude Hopkins. And from that guy, Gary Halbert. And Dan Kennedy...and hard won experience.

One meeting of the minds reigns supreme above all others in copywriting–and that's when the copywriter understands and addresses the same thoughts that are most pressing in the minds of their best prospect. Our returning champion today is the incredible Caleb O'Dowd. He was here a few weeks ago when he told us some closely guarded secrets from his book “Monetization: How To Optimize Sales Funnels and Skyrocket Back Ends.” Caleb has worked in some of the toughest and most competitive industries in the world, and he has repeatedly launched and scaled businesses up to seven and eight figures - all through the smart use of great copy and strategic sales funnels. But what was behind the thinking and the copy that went into those promotions? Smart research–something Caleb knows quite a bit about. Although he a legend in his own right among insiders in direct response marketing, Caleb has the rare distinction of having been mentored by the late Gary Halbert, one of the greatest copywriters of all time. Today Caleb will give us some highly important tips and insights regarding research. Probably a few valuable things you've never heard before. This is going to be a powerful 30 minutes, so make sure you're listening closely and ready to take notes. Caleb's book, Monetization: How To Optimize Sales Funnels and Skyrocket Backend Profits. Get it Here Download.

Sigue paso a paso estos consejos de Gary Halbert para generar más ventas con tu estrategia de copywriting..Pero antes, recuerda que, si todavía no te has apuntado, puedes unirte ahora mismo a la lista de correo Press Start y recibir cada día un nuevo consejo de ventas

HoldCo Bros are back! In this episode, Nik and I are diving into marketing with a look at the "OG" internet marketing guru, Frank Kern. We talk about his 8-step sales process, from overwhelming with value to creating scarcity, and explore how these methods remain relevant in the AI age. We also talk about how to reverse engineer successful marketing funnels and the importance of copying what works, adapting it to your unique experiences, and how Frank Kern learned from the likes of Gary Halbert and Claude Hopkins. Finally, we discuss two AI investment strategies - the "cigarette butt" approach and a long-term view focusing on human interaction and authenticity, while also discussing the concept of rebundling and how what's old becomes new again. Learn more about Nik here: http://linktr.ee/cofoundersnikTimestamps below. Enjoy!---Watch this on YouTube instead here: tkopod.co/p-ytAsk me a question on or off the show here: http://tkopod.co/p-askLearn more about me: http://tkopod.co/p-cjkLearn about my company: http://tkopod.co/p-cofFollow me on Twitter here: http://tkopod.co/p-xFree weekly business ideas newsletter: http://tkopod.co/p-nlShare this podcast: http://tkopod.co/p-allScrape small business data: http://tkopod.co/p-os---00:00 The Origins of Internet Marketing and Frank Kern10:10 Frank Kern's Eight-Step Selling Process19:58 The Importance of Scarcity in Marketing30:10 Investment Strategies in the Age of AI

We have a very special guest today. A legend among insiders, Caleb O'Dowd is a master marketer and copywriter. He has been launching and scaling businesses from zero to seven figures and eight figures, through the smart use of great copy and strategic sales funnels. In more industries than I can count. Including some of the most brutally competitive. I was thrilled when Caleb agreed to come on Copywriters Podcast for many reasons, especially the one that he has written a new book: Monetization: How To Optimize Sales Funnels and Skyrocket Backend Profits. Caleb also had the rare and prized opportunity to work with famous copywriter Gary Halbert a while back, and their time together alone makes for a world-class education in direct marketing and copywriting. Hang on tight. This is going to be a great show! -- Caleb's book: Monetization: How To Optimize Sales Funnels and Skyrocket Backend Profits. https://www.amazon.com/Monetization-Optimize-Funnels-Skyrocket-Backend/dp/B0CWQMM5PZ Download.

Analizamos los 5 consejos de venta más potentes que Gary Halbert nos presenta en The Boron Letters.Pero antes, recuerda que, si todavía no te has apuntado, puedes unirte ahora mismo a la lista de correo Press Start y recibir cada día un nuevo consejo de ventas

Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders podcast, teaching business owners the not-so-secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom and pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector, and storyteller. I'm Stephen's sidekick and business partner Dave Young. Before we get into today's episode, a word from our sponsor, which is... Well, it's us, but we're highlighting ads we've written and produced for our clients, so here's one of those. [Out Of This World Plumbing Ad] Dave Young: Welcome back to the Empire Builders podcast. Dave Young here along with Stephen Semple. And as we record this, it is the morning. Stephen Semple: You're not excited on this one! Dave Young: Dude, come on. Come on. It's the morning of November 4th. Stephen Semple: And what happens tomorrow? Dave Young: Tomorrow we have a little election in the United States. The topic that Stephen whispered into my ear just as we started was Twitter. Let's talk about Twitter. Stephen Semple: Twitter. Dave Young: And I go to Elon Musk. I'm like, oh God. So please, let's do talk about Twitter and let's talk about their origins and not their demise. Stephen Semple: See, I thought you would be more excited. Because the real driver behind Twitter is a guy by the name of Evan Williams, and he grew up in Nebraska. Dave Young: Did he really? Stephen Semple: Yes! You didn't know about that. Dave Young: I thought he was a New York City guy. Because he started it with... It was like an emergency alert thing. Stephen Semple: Well, that's one of the things that kicked it in the high gear. But no, he grew up in a farm in Nebraska. Dave Young: Where? What town? Stephen Semple: Oh God, of course you're going to ask me that. I don't know what town. Dave Young: Because I know people everywhere. Stephen Semple: I automatically assume that you would know this part. Dave Young: I didn't know that. Every Nebraskan knows someone who knows every other Nebraskan. That's just like, it's a third degree of separation. Stephen Semple: But I figured in a place like Nebraska, everyone would know where this dude was from because of how big Twitter is. Dave Young: No, I don't. Please do tell. Stephen Semple: Okay. So the primary driver was Evan Williams, but also Jack Dorsey and Noah Glass and Stone played very, very big roles in the starting of Twitter. But Evan grew up, as I said on a farm in Nebraska, and he wasn't into sports, but he always knew he kind of wanted to do a business. And because of that, he read a lot of business books. And in particular, he read some marketing books, and he decided he wanted to learn more as he read a book by pretty famous marketing guy named Gary Halbert. And he said, "You know what? I want to learn more." So he literally drove to Key West Florida and basically walked into Gary's office and said, "I want a job working for you." Dave Young: I'm telling you, that's a bit of a drive from Nebraska. Stephen Semple: Yeah, it is. It is. So here's this farm boy from Nebraska showing up at Gary Halbert's office. And Gary basically gave him a writing assignment, said, "Fine, here, do this writing assignment. See how you do." And it was so good, Gary actually thought he had someone write it for him. He's like, no, no, no. Dave Young: This is before AI. Stephen Semple: Yeah, exactly. Actually, if it was written by AI, he wouldn't have accepted it. But anyway, that's a whole different issue. So Gary hires him, and he works there for about seven months. Learns a whole bunch of stuff and returns to Nebraska. And he returns Nebraska, it's the early nineties, and he decides he wants to start a website business. So he's trying to sell websites to local businesses. Now, at this point, he's in Lincoln, Nebraska. I don't know whether that's where he's from,

Una vez, el legendario vendedor Gary Halbert. le dio una lección muy valiosa a su hijo. Gary le dijo a su hijo algo así: «Hijo mío, en una encuesta les han preguntado a nuestros paisanos si preferían ir al teatro ... LEER MÁS »

Rob Anspach interviews Bond Halbert son of the legendary Gary Halbert on the Boron Letters, A pile vs B pile, snail mail, primary email, tinkerers, that one thing, direct response marketing and repo babies. The post Ep 311 – The Halbert Legacy & Nepo Babies first appeared on Rob Anspach's E-Heroes.

Every industry is strife with skepticism. And this is particularly haunting for the financial advice business because hiring you goes against human nature.  Couple this with many financial advisors using an anti-persuasive sales process, and it's no wonder finding high-quality clients feels impossible.  But there's a secret to reduce your prospective clients' skepticism, earn their trust, and help them defy their own human nature.  And in this episode, I reveal this secret so you can profit wildly from it.  Listen now. Show highlights include: The simple, yet bulletproof method for reducing your prospects' skepticism (and why this is even more important in the financial world than other industries) (4:29)  Gary Halbert's “lazy” marketing secret for getting your clients to pay you to tell you their most pressing fears (6:38)  How to create an environment that reduces skepticism and speeds up the sales process (12:19)  This psychological “glitch” of the human psyche explains why prospective clients are so skeptical to hire you (here's how to “disarm” this glitch) (13:58)  Since you listen to this podcast, I want to give you a gift:  If you subscribe to the Inner Circle Newsletter, I'll send you a collection of seven “objection busting” and copyright free emails, personally written by me, that you can use right away to begin getting more clients. Sign up here: https://TheAdvisorCoach.com/Coaching. Then, let me know you subscribed, and I will reply back with a link where you can download them for free.  Subscribe to my email newsletter and get a free copy of 57 of my favorite financial advisor marketing ideas here: https://TheAdvisorCoach.com/57MT

Welcome to another insightful episode of Boss Uncaged, where we dive deep into the minds of successful entrepreneurs, uncovering their strategies, stories, and secrets to inspire your business journey. I'm your host, S. A. Grant, entrepreneur, digital marketing expert, and branding specialist. Today, we have a guest who truly embodies the art of persuasive writing – the "Copywriting Boss" himself, Donnie Bryant, CEO of donnie-bryant.com. In this episode, we'll explore Donnie's fascinating career journey, from his initial forays into varied niches like dating and debt relief, to his successful pivot into financial copywriting. With a track record that includes generating a staggering $125 million for clients over the past three years, Donnie brings a wealth of experience and wisdom to our conversation.We'll uncover valuable insights into copywriting techniques, the human attention algorithm, and how understanding client emotions can create compelling marketing copy. Donnie also shares his personal life and entrepreneurial philosophy, discussing the importance of supporting his children's passions, the profound influence of his mother and grandmother on his career, and his proactive stance on leveraging AI in his industry.Moreover, Donnie reflects on his racially diverse identity and how it enriches his copywriting, along with his goal to be a renowned influencer like David Ogilvy and Gary Halbert. He even touches on his profound admiration for historical figures like Malcolm X and his vision for the future of his career and legacy.So, stay tuned as we uncover the secrets to capturing and retaining attention, the importance of addressing client problems, and much more. Whether you're an aspiring copywriter or a seasoned entrepreneur, this episode is packed with golden nuggets you won't want to miss. Let's dive into the conversation with Donnie Bryant on Boss Uncaged!////Donnie Bryant is a direct response copywriter and messaging consultant. Since 2007 Donnie has written sales copy for dozens of niches from dating to debt relief. His copy has generated $125 million dollars for his clients over the past 3 years.Listen and Subscribe To Boss Uncaged Podcast Here:https://podcast.bossuncaged.comWebsite: https://donnie-bryant.comLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donniebryantjr/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/donnie.bryant.35Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/blackcopywriters https://www.facebook.com/groups/emailcopywritingFacebook Business Page: https://www.facebook.com/donniebryantjr/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/DonnieBryantTwitter: https://twitter.com/donniebryantjrBooks: https://www.amazon.com/How-Write-Sell-Copywriting-Entrepreneurs-ebook/dp/B074WHYGWNhttps://www.amazon.com/Beat-Goliath-even-cant-outright-ebook/dp/B00LNSYCLG/CEO Of donnie-bryant.com: Donnie Bryant AKA The Copywriting Boss - S8E12 (#263)#Copywriting #EmailMarketing #Marketing #Persuasion #Storytelling

Ogni copywriter che si rispetti è alla continua ricerca del "gancio perfetto".Quella frase – o anche una singola parola – che permette a un messaggio di aprire un varco nella mente del destinatario. Tuttavia, c'è modo e modo di catturare l'attenzione del lettore. Per usare un'espressione moderna, di fare clickbait:Puoi servirti dell'inganno e della frode, per esempio…… oppure ci puoi riuscire mantenendo un elevato standard etico.Purtroppo, ancora oggi, molti "professionisti del marketing" scelgono la prima strada. Che è la più sbrigativa, certo. Ma anche quella più rischiosa in termini di reputazione.Allora come si fa clickbait in maniera corretta?Per rispondere a questa domanda ti condividiamo GRATIS un altro episodio della serie Premium su Gary Halbert (riservata ai membri del Club).Halbert infatti non è stato solo capace di perfezionare questa tecnica nelle sue lettere di vendita…… bensì, ha ispirato legioni di scrittori persuasivi che la continuano a usare online.Segui dunque la puntata di oggi per scoprire:Come smascherare gli schemi clickbait più abusati e truffaldiniCome "acchiappare" l'attenzione del tuo target nel rispetto del suo tempo e interesseAlcuni interessanti esempi a riguardo.e molto altroEcco una piccola anteprima della puntata di oggi:[1:05] Un sistema sleale per estorcere l'attenzione (e i click) di utenti inermi. Perché non dovresti MAI adoperarlo… anche se funziona alla grande.[8:08] Come usare un dispositivo "cattura-attenzione" in modo vantaggioso per il tuo brand. (E cosa ti aspetta se invece provi a prendere in giro i tuoi lettori…)[13:10] CASO STUDIO - Uno stratagemma che ha fatto lievitare il ROAS di una piccola software house OLTRE il 13.000%.[21:48] Come giustificare il clickbait tramite un copy coerente, onesto… e allineato con il migliore interesse del tuo pubblico.[27:21] Il metodo migliore (ed economico) per imparare il copywriting dai più grandi maestri di sempre.[35:16] Come strutturare un funnel per prodotti costosi e complicati da vendere.  Più, la scomoda verità che i "guru" dell'affiliate marketing non osano dirti…[43:00] La "crociata linguistica" che affrontano i copywriter ogniqualvolta scrivono per il B2B. E come trovano il tono di voce giusto per rivolgersi a imprenditori e manager…►► Vuoi anche tu delle campagne persuasive “chiavi-in-mano” per  aumentare lead qualificati e vendite?Leggi le storie di successo di decine di imprenditori italiani che si sono affidati a Copy Persuasivo®: https://www.copypersuasivo.com/casi-studio ►► Ti piacerebbe fare del copywriting il tuo lavoro, ma non sai da dove partire? Leggi GRATIS la Guida definitiva su come diventare copywriter e renderla un'attività profittevole in meno di 1 anno:https://www.copypersuasivo.com/copywriting-come-imparare/►► Se non segui la Newsletter di Copy Persuasivo® rimedia subito. Inserisci i tuoi dati su https://www.copypersuasivo.com/newsletter (riceverai in omaggio anche “24 Modelli Copia Incolla di Scrittura Persuasiva pronti all'uso”.)

Gary Halbert era una persona dal carattere problematico. Molti dei suoi colleghi non esitano a descriverlo come un tipo furbo, sprezzante e spaccone.Un individuo vizioso, abituato a sperperare tutto quello che guadagnava fino all'ultimo centesimo. Eppure… questi difetti non gli hanno impedito di diventare una leggenda del copywriting a risposta diretta…… e un maestro di vita per chiunque lo frequentasse. Con all'attivo decine di campagne multimilionarie realizzate nei settori più disparati, ha venduto prodotti e servizi per un valore stimato in MILIARDI di dollari.Ecco perché a 17 anni dalla sua scomparsa resta ancora un punto di riferimento per molti imprenditori e marketer in tutto il mondo.Allora, oggi ripercorriamo alcuni insegnamenti senza tempo che Halbert ci ha lasciato in eredità.E, per l'occasione, ti regaliamo un intero episodio della Serie dedicata al grande copywriter americano – riservata ai soli membri del Club.Al suo interno, il team di Copy Persuasivo® analizza il capitolo 5 delle Boron Letters. (Cioè, una raccolta di lettere che Gary inviò a suo figlio Bond dall'ex carcere di Boron, California, nel 1984.) Ecco una piccola anteprima della puntata di oggi:[2:29] L'arte di vendere quello che le persone vogliono comprare. Come praticarla senza sembrare il solito venditore. [8:26] L'unico sistema CERTO per validare l'efficacia del tuo copy. (Funziona nel 100% dei casi.)[14:12] Il singolo tratto caratteriale che ti trasforma in un professionista vincente. (Ovvero: come smettere di piangerti addosso e liberare il  "gigante" dentro di te…) [21:12] 4 miti da sfatare sullo studio del marketing. Più, il requisito numero #1 per acquisire clienti… in qualsiasi epoca e con qualunque mezzo.[27:41] 2 caratteristiche che condividono tutti i grandi copywriter. E perché oggi il copy persuasivo non è semplicemente… copy a risposta diretta.[33:02] Come Halbert tracciava le abitudini d'acquisto della gente… per costruirci intorno offerte multimilionarie. E come puoi riuscirci anche tu nel 2024…[37:33] L'unico caso in cui nemmeno il miglior copy può aiutarti a vendere (e come EVITARE di cacciarti in un tale vicolo cieco).►► Vuoi anche tu delle campagne persuasive “chiavi-in-mano” per  aumentare lead qualificati e vendite?Leggi le storie di successo di decine di imprenditori italiani che si sono affidati a Copy Persuasivo®: https://www.copypersuasivo.com/casi-studio ►► Ti piacerebbe fare del copywriting il tuo lavoro, ma non sai da dove partire? Leggi GRATIS la Guida definitiva su come diventare copywriter e renderla un'attività profittevole in meno di 1 anno:https://www.copypersuasivo.com/copywriting-come-imparare/►► Se non segui la Newsletter di Copy Persuasivo® rimedia subito. Inserisci i tuoi dati su https://www.copypersuasivo.com/newsletter (riceverai in omaggio anche “24 Modelli Copia Incolla di Scrittura Persuasiva pronti all'uso”.)

Gary Halbert escribió uno de los libros de copywriting más interesantes desde la cárcel y hoy analizamos las claves que proponía. Pero antes, recuerda que, si todavía no te has apuntado, puedes unirte ahora mismo a la lista de correo Press Start y recibir cada día un nuevo consejo de ventas.

Someone's got to be the best. And at least a few people believe that Daniel Throssell is Australia's best copywriter—even if only because Daniel told them he was : ). In the 394th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, Kira and Rob brought Daniel into the studio to talk about his email strategy, world building, and how he turned a children's book into Australia's best selling book. And Daniel got real when it comes to what a day in his life really looks like. This is the second time, Daniel has been on the podcast (the first episode is here). Click the play button below, or scroll down for a full transcript of today's appearance on the show. Stuff to check out: Storyworthy by Matthew Dicks Tough Titties by Laura Belgray A great book (Dark Matter) by Blake Crouch Master and Commander by Aubrey Maturin Stop Reading the News by Rolf Dobelli The Copywriter Club Facebook Group The Copywriter Underground Daniel's Website Full Transcript: Rob Marsh:  If you're going to say you're the best at something, eventually you're going to have to back it up. The late Gary Halbert once sent out a newsletter titled “why I am the best copywriter alive”. Of course, any one can make a claim like that. But eventually you have to back it up… and at least when it comes to Gary, he had the clients, the sales, and the results to make a pretty strong claim on the title. Which brings me to the guy that many people call Australia's best copywriter. Hi, I'm Rob Marsh, one of the founders of The Copywriter Club. And on today's episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, my co-founder Kira Hug and I interviewed copywriter Daniel Throssell, who has been called Australia's best copywriter by many in the marketing world. But does he have the chops to back it up? Indeed he does. We covered a lot of ground in this interview—we went really deep on his approach to email, which in many ways he treats as if he's writing a novel. He also shared a few of the details about his strategy for pushing several books to #1 on the best seller list, a strategy by the way that works for all kinds of products, not just books. And Daniel got real when he talked about what a typical day looks like for him. We think you're going to like this one. But before we get to the interview… you've heard me talk about the copywriter underground and what it includes. If you've been thinking about joining this amazing community, I want to give you two reasons to jump in now. The first is a limited time Client Emails Masterclass with copywriter Michal Eisik. Michal launched her business after completing the copywriter accelerator and think tank. What she's built is amazing. We asked Michal if she would share her masterclass with The Underground. But because Michal actually sells this to her own email list, she asked us to limit access to just a couple of day in May.  Which means if you want to get the Client Emails Masterclass for free, you've got to jump into The Underground now. We also have a second bonus… it's the strategic plan that today's guest Daniel Throssell used to make his client's book a best seller in Australia. You're going to hear a little bit about it in this episode, but Daniel only scratches the surface here. Because the only other time he's shared his strategy was with his paying subscribers and he wants to make sure to honor them by not sharing it elsewhere. However, he has made one exception. He's sharing it for a limited time with the paying subscribers of The Copywriter Underground for just a few days in the month of May. If you want to learn more about the strategy he teases on this episode, jump into the underground today so we can share the details of how to get your hands on the whole thing with you. There's never been a better time to visit thecopywriterclub.com/tcu to claim your free bonuses now. And with that, let's go to our interview with Daniel. Kira Hug: All right. Welcome, Daniel. I want to kick off with a question about the l...

Let's talk about the Halt formula, inspired by a famous marketer named Gary Halbert. If you're into marketing, you probably know him. If you're new, check out his work—it's legendary. Now, let's go through these points, and remember, they're straightforward, not fancy or metaphorical. Show Notes: [04:12]#1 Hungry. [09:55]#2 Angry. [13:30]#3 Lonely. [16:15]#4 Tired. [23:09] Recap Episodes Mentioned: 1798: How To Manage Your Anger 109: Handling Anger In A Mature Way — Next Steps: Text Dre Baldwin: Text Dre at 1.305.384.6894 (or go to http://www.DreAllDay.com/Text) Work On Your Game University: http://www.WorkOnYourGameUniversity.com Sponsor: AG1 by Athletic Greens: http://drinkAG1.com/WORKONYOURGAME Get Dre's Emails FREE: Http://WorkOnMyGame.com Free Audiobooks: The Third Day: http://www.ThirdDayBook.com/audible The Mirror Of Motivation: http://www.MirrorOfMotivation.com/audible Get The Free Books: The Third Day: http://ThirdDayBook.com The Mirror Of Motivation: http://MirrorOfMotivation.com The Overseas Basketball Blueprint: http://BallOverseas.com Basketball: How To Play As Well As You Practice: http://HoopHandbook.com/Free Donate: CashApp: http://Cash.app/$DreBaldwin PayPal: http://PayPal.me/DreAllDay Be sure to Subscribe to have each new episode sent directly to you daily! If you're enjoying Work On Your Game, please Review the show and let us know! Dre on social media: Instagram [http://instagram.com/DreBaldwin] Facebook [http://Facebook.com/WorkOnYourGameUniversity] Twitter / X [http://X.com/DreAllDay] YouTube [http://youtube.com/dreupt] Facebook Business Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/6figuresandgrowing/ All Episodes + FULL Work On Your Game Podcast archive at: http://WorkOnYourGamePodcast.com

Today, we're talking about being aware. It means knowing what's going on around you. Influenced by Andrew Tate and Gary Halbert, they stress how crucial awareness is for success. Let's dive into why being alert and understanding your surroundings matters. Stick around for practical tips to boost your awareness on the road to success. Show Notes: [04:19]#1 Notice what is happening around you. [15:48]#2 Become a student of your game.  [22:35]#3 Ask yourself better questions.  [28:17]Recap Episodes Mentioned: 2699: My Thoughts On Andrew Tate 2697: Look Up From Your Damn Phone! 2143: How To Become The Attractive Character For Your Brand Or Business — Next Steps: Text Dre Baldwin: Text Dre at 1.305.384.6894 (or go to http://www.DreAllDay.com/Text) Work On Your Game University: http://www.WorkOnYourGameUniversity.com  Sponsor: AG1 by Athletic Greens: http://drinkAG1.com/WORKONYOURGAME  Get Dre's Emails FREE:  Http://WorkOnMyGame.com  Free Audiobooks:  The Third Day: http://www.ThirdDayBook.com/audible The Mirror Of Motivation: http://www.MirrorOfMotivation.com/audible Get The Free Books: The Third Day: http://ThirdDayBook.com  The Mirror Of Motivation: http://MirrorOfMotivation.com The Overseas Basketball Blueprint: http://BallOverseas.com  Basketball: How To Play As Well As You Practice: http://HoopHandbook.com/Free  Donate:  CashApp: http://Cash.app/$DreBaldwin  PayPal: http://PayPal.me/DreAllDay  Be sure to Subscribe to have each new episode sent directly to you daily! If you're enjoying Work On Your Game, please Review the show and let us know!  Dre on social media: Instagram [http://instagram.com/DreBaldwin] Facebook [http://Facebook.com/WorkOnYourGameUniversity] Twitter / X [http://X.com/DreAllDay] YouTube [http://youtube.com/dreupt]  Facebook Business Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/6figuresandgrowing/  All Episodes + FULL Work On Your Game Podcast archive at:  http://WorkOnYourGamePodcast.com

In this today's episode, Patrick Donley (@JPatrickDonley) sits down with Neville Medhora to hear about his early adventures into online businesses and how that led to creating online courses including the Copywriting Course. You'll also learn about his early experiences in day trading, how Warren Buffet changed his mind about investing, how to capture anyone's attention with the AIDA Method, how he structures his own portfolio and so much more! Neville Medhora runs Copywriting Course where 1,000+ business owners get trained on writing better emails, newsletters, landing pages and social media posts. He's been involved with AppSumo, TheHustle, Copy.ai, and a host of other internet businesses.  Neville learned to invest in college with spare money made from side projects, and quickly learned the perils of day trading, and the reward of long-term investing. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 02:45 - What Neville's path was like during and after college. 05:39 - How he arranged to meet Michael Dell and other famous people. 10:07 - What his early experience in day trading was like. 15:49 - Why he started a financial blog and the doors it opened for him. 17:42 - How he got connected with Noah Kagan and Sam Parr. 21:56 - How he first got involved with copywriting and how he learned it. 33:13 - How to capture someone's attention with the AIDA process. 38:23 - What someone would learn in Neville's copywriting course. 41:30 - What a typical day looks like for him and how he spends his time. 43:52 - What are some of the “crazy experiments” Neville has done. 51:09 - What Neville's productivity hacks are. 55:58 - How to think about your own death to plan and live your life. 64:08 - How Neville thinks about living a good and happy life. 67:04 - Why you shouldn't be 100% content. 68:55 - How he structures his own portfolio. *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members. Check out: MI318: Million Dollar Weekend w/ Noah Kagan | YouTube video. Recommended Book: The Boron Letters by Gary Halbert. Recommended Book: Ask by Ryan Levesque. Recommended Book: Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell. Recommended Book: You're Gonna Die by Neville Medhora. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. Check out the books mentioned in the podcast here. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try Kyle's favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: DeleteMe Monarch Money Fundrise Linkedin Marketing Solutions NerdWallet TurboTax NetSuite Toyota Connect with Patrick: Twitter Connect with Neville: Website  |  Twitter | YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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In today's episode of Welcome to Cloudlandia, we take you on a journey through history and our complex relationship with time and its perception. We discuss hidden economic forces that shaped pivotal history and debate if we live in the "best or worst of times." I share my experience with breaking free from television, only to be pulled back by sporting thrills and gripping shows, a reminder of how addictive media can be. As we wrap up our discussion, we reflect on exciting developments on the horizon. We celebrate entrepreneurs who have adapted their businesses to thrive online.   SHOW HIGHLIGHTS Dean talks about time perception and the fascination with having foreknowledge of events, particularly in the context of financial markets and the desire to possess tomorrow's news today. We explore the human ability to adapt to a wide range of temperatures, humorously comparing our ancestors' robust survival skills to modern reactions to climate change. Dean reflects on the concept of whether we are living in the best or worst of times, citing both the remarkable conveniences of modern life and the psychological challenges posed by the battle for our attention. Personal anecdotes include Dean's success in abstaining from watching television for over five years, despite being tempted by his loyalty to sports teams and the immersive experience of a Netflix binge. There's a discussion about the skepticism surrounding medical advancements and the difficulty in discerning credible health information in an era of conflicting opinions. We examine the impact of technology on spontaneity and control in our lives, touching on smart devices and drawing a parallel to the controlling nature of HAL 9000 from "2001: A Space Odyssey". Dan shares insights on entrepreneurship, reflecting on the adaptability required to thrive in the digital age, such as the growth of his coaching program and the shift from in-person workshops to online formats. We delve into the process of book production, noting the importance of releasing work to make room for new ideas and discussing technological advancements that have expedited the process. Dean talks about integrating AI chat into books to allow readers to interact with content and contemplates whether AI could help guide readers through material by asking questions. Coordination for an upcoming trip to Chicago is mentioned, where Albie will be joining Dean and Dan, indicating excitement for the visit and the promise of future stimulating discussions. Links: WelcomeToCloudlandia.com StrategicCoach.com DeanJackson.com ListingAgentLifestyle.com TRANSCRIPT (AI transcript provided as supporting material and may contain errors) Dean: Mr Sullivan. Dan: I'm almost tapping in here. Dean: Almost. That's exactly right as close as you can get without going over. We're you know we're going to be 12 hours away from it here, it's all very exciting. Dan: Yeah, yeah, we were talking to Kim Daniel. He now calls himself. Daniel White and he phoned us from birth Australia from the future from the future from the future. So they're already. They're already into New Year's yeah, that's so funny. What a weird world, what a world for a world, you know. Dean: I saw an infographic that there's an island. There's two islands up where Russia and Alaska joined. They're separated by three miles. You can see the other island. I like it once called tomorrow Island or something. What the American side is. You know 24 hours difference because it's right after the straddle the line divides them is the international date line. So they're three miles away, and yet they're 24 hours apart. Yeah that's really interesting. Dan: You know people often have these quizzes. You know it's either you're reading the quizzes or you're being asked the quiz. Yeah, and it's. Dan: if you had one superpower, what would it be? Have you ever had anything like that, so many? I have you know I think about or you were you were a witness to this question being asked. And mine is that I would like to have tomorrow morning's Wall Street Journal yesterday. Yeah, exactly Exactly. How great would that be, that could be. Dean: The thing is literally what you should. That could be a loophole, Dan. Maybe we should go to these islands and subscribe to the Wall Street Journal on tomorrow Island. Oh man. Dan: Now take a bit of work. I mean, you still have to learn what to look for, and you know you'd have to have the means by which you could, and but that just reminds me. I think everybody would like to have that superpower. Dean: They would like to have advanced understanding of the future Well you know what's so funny is one of the things that I wanted to talk about today, because it's, you know, explore. This idea is because I ranked it up there as one of the top concepts of the year for me, and that is guessing and betting, and essentially, what you're saying is it's absolutely true. The reason that would be so valuable is that it would bring certainty. If you look tomorrow and see what the closing stock price of a any stock was today. If you knew that in advance, that it starts out at X and it's going to be X plus. Y at the end of the day, you're betting with certainty, and that's a pretty interesting. That's what I really thought about the that concept, and I'd love to hear a little more, because well, I think it's, I think it's been. Dan: It's a thought that's been in the human brain since the first humans. Dean: Yeah, I agree, you think that not knowing, I wonder where. I wonder how would that have manifested itself then in the beginning? Knowing where, the, I guess what would it be? Knowing where, the where the food is going to be, or something. Dan: Well, I think, you know, I think probably it manifested itself in the first days of people just noticing the weather, you know, like wherever they were, that you know, that. I mean I think they probably, if you did Colby's back then, like a Colby profile that that the earliest humans really varied in terms of you know what they were skillful at and what they focused on Okay. And. But my sense is that there were some people who were more conceptual, who could notice patterns better than others. And they could make sort of predictions which you know as it regard weatherers. That regarded, the wildlife around them or the you know. The you know availability of food. They would immediately go to the top of authority and in whatever group they were, because they just had a sense of what was going on and a better sense of tomorrow than anybody else did. Dean: Yeah, that's really yeah must have freaked, I mean, imagine, not knowing with. I guess the first certainty would be well, even though the sun went away, it's going to come back up again, Yep, and then getting that certainty that, okay, there it is. And wait a minute, it's colder this time of year than what's all this white stuff. I subscribe to the Gary Halbert philosophy. He had a saying that God gave us a sign by planting palm trees in all the places that were suitable for human habitation. So if you wake up and you don't see any palm trees, keep bending south. That's his philosophy. If you see palm trees. Dean: You know you're in the right place. Yeah. Dan: Yeah, and then you know you, it's very interesting. Everybody worries about global warming or they are making large amounts of money warning about global warming. I think that's more of a ladder than it is that they're actually worried. I think they've discovered a new way to make money? Yeah, but but if you think of the variations in temperature that humans can deal with, okay. So, for example, in North Africa, in the Sahara, people go about their business when it's 120 degrees up, 120 or plus, you know, in the Sahara. And at the same time there I've been in Alberta in Canada, when it was 44 below and everybody went about their business. Speaker 3 Yeah, so that's a difference, that's a difference. Dan: Fahrenheit wise, that's a difference of 164 degrees Okay. And humans at one end, people are going about their business. That's the other. They're going about their business and they're freaking out about a one degree change, one or two degree change. And I said I mean, who of us doesn't go through that, even you know, in idyllic spots like where you live? Yeah, there's still a variation of 20 to 25, maybe 30 degrees during here, right, Right. Dean: Yeah, no, it's been. It's been a little cold here Like I. Literally, I almost had to wear socks with my shorts today, dan, it's that's how chilly it was, wow, yeah. Yeah. Dean: And I have a hoodie on Wow. Just to stay one because I'm committed. I'm still sitting out in the courtyard have you done trauma? Dan: Have you done trauma therapy on this? Dean: No, you know, the funny thing about I mean, what they call the whole climate change is, you know, if we look back, it's a fact, scientifically accepted, that we were in an ice age at one point and somehow, without the aid of fossil fuels and combustible engines, the earth warmed itself out of an ice age. And now we're having a nervous breakdown that we're gonna, because of combustible engines, throw the whole thing off into. Dan: I don't know, it's just See as an entrepreneur talking to an entrepreneur. That proves to me that there's money to be made in nervous breakdowns. Dean: Give people nervous breakdowns. That's the thing, yeah, yeah. Dan: You know, it's like the Jerry McGuire movie. Remember Jerry McGuire movie. Dean: I do. That's a great movie. Where's the? Dan: money. Dean: Yeah. Dan: Show me the money. Show me the money, show me the money. And I think that when you're trying to analyze any event on the planet which is being interpreted in economic, political well, not economic but political, philosophical terms, I say I think your first question has to be okay, who's making the money? here yeah right. Dean: That's absolutely true, absolutely true, and it's gonna be. Yeah, I think that you know I was sharing a couple of weeks ago the idea of my contemplation on whether this is the best of times or the worst of times. Dan: And the answer is yeah. Dean: That's exactly right. But what I realized is that there's, in terms of every physical measurement, every convenience, access to information, democratization of virtually everything. It's the very best of times. There's never been a better time than now, and on the worst, the best things that I could come up with are the most, you know, the things that would qualify as making it the worst of times, where all the battle for our minds and it's that creating those there's a lot to fixate on. You know that really has nothing to do with us in. You know, in reality, like when it's all mental, the inner game is really the battle, for Dean Landia is strong, you know. Dan: Yeah, I think it's true, and just to bring you know the latest update, I'm now in my Almost six, five and a half years of not watching television. Dean: I know I thought like amazing. Dan: Yeah, and, but this was sort of the test for me this fall, because I'm from Cleveland originally and. I have the normal sports loyalties. Like I rude right, you know, I root for the teams I rooted for when I was eight years old and the Cleveland Browns are having a really quite an extraordinary season as the result of a 38 year old quarterback. Yeah, I've heard his name Joe Flack, oh, oh. Who was sitting on a. Who is sitting on a couch Watching television or lying on a couch? Six weeks ago, when Cleveland went to their third quarterback of the year, went down and they brought him in. And he's been easily the best quarterback in the league over the last four or five years. Yeah and Just, I mean he's. Here's the Hollywood ending that they go to the Super Bowl and this guy comes off the coach and wins the Super Bowl. That's a great. Dean: Yeah, it's the Kurt Warner story right. Dan: Oh yeah yeah, this is even more because Kurt Warner was about 31 or 32, yeah, when it happened, but this guy's 38. He's he played 16 years and nobody wanted in this year. So it's just got all the makings of a great just a terrific Hollywood script you know, and. But ask me how much? What? How many minutes of Watching the Cleveland Browns this fall have I done? Dean: well, you told me your secret Was that you watch the YouTube summary of the game. Dan: Well, first of all, I watch whether they won or lost right, okay, perfect yes. If they lost, I don't watch the summary if they win. I watched the video. And what I've discovered I? Dan: what I've discovered is that no football game has more than 10 minutes of actual highlights. Speaker 3 Right. Dan: Yeah, and then? The one I like the best is where they just show your team's highlights when they want, which is about five minutes. Yeah right right, right. Dan: So rabbit pan. First game was 97 Jim Brown, olive fame and perhaps the greatest running back of all time. It was his rookie season and he broke the one game rushing record Day for touchdowns 200, 200 plus some yards. That was my first and I was addicted. It was like drugs, right. You know, you don't you give the first sample away free, and then the drugs do the selling for the rest of my life. Yeah and so anyway. But, tempted as I may be, this fall I did not watch a minute of television. Dean: Wow, that's great, and you know I'm watching the. Dan: I'm not watching the highlights TV, as a matter of fact, I'm looking at the TV. It's across the room for me. And. Dan: I don't even know where, I don't even know how you turn it on, oh, boy. Fantastic. It's like the Dark Ages. I've lost abilities that the Romans said. You know the whole. Dean: You know, on the other side of that spectrum is Yesterday. I had two amazing things happen. So yesterday I Got up and I got coffee, and sometimes what I'll do is I, like Jerry Seinfeld had a series called comedians in cars getting coffee and it's just a fun. You know they're 10 minute episodes, 10 12 minutes kind of thing. I think I'm someone in, so I sometimes I'm having like coffee, I'll sit there and I'll watch a comedians in cars getting coffee, and so I turned on Netflix to do that. And Netflix has this thing of pushing to your home screen, you know, through your algorithm or whatever, the thing that would be the most interesting to you, probably. And there was a series called money heist, which was a big thing. You know, in 2020, when we were all in Lockdown based, this money heist series came on and everybody got, you know, fully addicted to it. It was really well done. It was just from Spain and it was Dubbed with English voices, but really well done. So, in any event, the third installment of this money heist series was front and center on my Netflix home screen yesterday and I Ended up no, this was Friday, sorry, I ended up watching the whole series on that Friday and the funniest thing, dan, is that I, for the entire day, thought it was Saturday and I didn't realize until the end of the day that I got an extra day. Do you have those things where in the holidays the days just kind of blend all together? Because I haven't had. Or anything you know and the way you do that, in the way you do. Dan: We each, we all have our own approaches, you know, right on that was so. Dean: That was the funniest thing. I watched the entire series of Fantastic and, but it felt like I just borrowed from my leap year day. Dan: Something got that day. Now I'm thinking got. Dean: I said something got heisted. That's exactly right. Dan: That is exactly right. Well, you know, everybody makes a big deal about this today, but I don't think it was any different. Everybody wants to make Case that the world and humanity has never experienced before, of what we're experiencing to work, and I resist that thought. And I say well, first of all, we don't know, do we? I mean we? I mean we don't know what was going on in the world when we were five or six years old, you know, I mean yeah. I mean, we were just struggling together handle on walking and running and Everything else. But people make all these things like Something like this has never happened before in human history and I yeah. I said first of all, vast majority of people haven't got a clue what happened 10 years ago so you know. I mean and you know some of some people it's last week and. Anyway, and I said actually probably, we all want to believe that our own age is something special. And I said okay, well, that's something to remember that regardless of what age you're in, people want to believe that it's sort of special. Okay, and I get that, but my sense is it's always been special. One it's always been special, or two it's never been special. And but if you go back, and If you go back and read the thinking of people, where we actually have the documents Greek 2500 years ago, totally understandable, translated and Very thoughtful and you could learn a lot from these guys. Okay so so are there people smarter today than our Air stock? I don't know, because I'm not sure how you would compare a smartness over in 2500 years. Dean: Well, I mean, I think you can point to certain things. I mean you can point to Even just in. Let's just take medicine. You've just returned from your second trip to Buenos Aires to get stem, stem cells for generating cartilage in your knees Right and others and others. Dan: So it's turning into. It's turning into repair and also prevention. So they're now doing proactive stuff for you know your brain and your vascular system and everything. Dean: Oh, I remember. Yeah, so you know. I remember walking in Regents Park in London with Jamie Smart. We were walking around and he was telling me, you know he had written his new book at the time Clarity was out and he was saying how, in the 18, people thought that bad smells cause disease and so people would walk around with posies and fragrant things to ward off disease. And turns out that it was germs that caused this disease. And so when you think about, you know, 2,500 years ago, advancements in medicine, you know we were, I mean, leaching and you know bloodletting and all of these sort of you know superstitious things I think were happening and they were thinking that some diseases were demonic possession. You know that's really what was going on, that bring people had seizure, that they were possessed by the devil or by demons. And so now you fast forward to today and we have DNA that with certainty can point to what your genetic predispositions are, and stem cell, you know, can go in and repair or modify those things. I don't know. Dean: I mean, I think that we are, I think, life expectancy. So I think in many ways we're constantly ratcheting forward society, right, and I think, with now access to you know it used to be. If you just take even 50 years ago, you know it used to be that all of the research and development and advancements in medicine were all done in silos, where you know proximity to those people or you know had to be around. And now we're at a point where every advancement that's documented and available is, you know, instantly analyzable by artificial intelligence and machine learning. So we have access to not just our own thinking but the analysis and you know computation skills or whatever, to everything to the hive mind. You know. I think that's really what we've evolved to. Is that you know it's not individual thinkers who you had to. 2,500 years ago you had to be in at the Agora to listen to Aristotle talk, to get the wisdom of Aristotle, or somebody had a scroll that had written down something that he said. You know Now it's like everything I don't know. It's such amazing things that we have access to everything that's ever been said and can project forward in the style of what Aristotle would say today about certain situations. Like you told me, your story of having something interpreted and written as Shakespeare would write it in the Iambic pandemic right, and so I don't I mean, it's like in certain things any argument that today is not a pinnacle of achievement or Well yeah, I think we I've been, you know, pondering over the years what constitutes smart, because it's very clear to me that you can find examples of people thousands of years ago. Yeah. Dan: If the person were in the room and you could understand the language they were speaking they would strike you as being very smart. Speaker 3 Yes. Dan: Okay, and the couple of weeks ago in Congress we had three presidents of prestigious universities who, over a period of about 15 minutes, indicated that they're not very smart Harvard, mit and Penn, okay. And they were asked a fairly simple question Would anything happening on your campus in advocating genocide to Jews, with that constitutive violation of code of conduct? And they couldn't answer the question. Somebody 2,500 years ago could answer the question. So my sense is it's kind of like you're as smart as who you hang out with. Yeah. Dan: And you're as smart as your ability to deal with the your own unknown factors, like we all have unknown factors, and so my sense is that intelligence and smartness has to do with your creative response, or your either creative or reactive response to kind of the conditions that you're living in. You know. You know, and, for example, it's pretty well known now that the people of the South Pacific pledged all over just understanding the color of waves. They could see that there were different variations in the color of the water sea water and they could make predictions based on that. I doubt if there's any human beings today who can do that. Yeah, but I wonder yeah, I mean that's so the thing that I'm saying, I think that human intelligence is kind of a constant and you know, people in the earliest humans were kind of smart in relationship to their circumstances and we probably couldn't survive for a day what they could survive for a year, you know, because we didn't have their knowledge and experience. So I think we have access to great medical breakthroughs right now, but I haven't met a regular doctor yet that knows any of those breakers. Dean: Right? Well, because there's a whole. Dan: I just use my general. I just use my general practitioners for drugs drug dealers. Dean: Yeah. Dan: Good drug dealers. Dean: Yeah, but there's a whole. You know there's a whole, especially in these medical things. There's a lot of. That's one of these nervous breakdown things that there's a whole lot of. For every advancement or every miracle cure or protocol, there's someone, there's a vocal and official sounding opposition to it. Yep. Dean: It's really. This is where it's really difficult. Dan: You can count on that. Is to discern what the yeah, because somebody's pension is at stake, somebody's reputation is at stake, somebody's livelihood is at stake because of something new, because of something new Because they stopped growing 20 years ago and they've been on autopilot and suddenly they've been interrupted. Something new what we've? Dean: got to stop. Is you look at something as devices, as vaccines? That's been the. You know the number one kind of contention in the last four years is the whole. You know the on both sides. You know it's either is it a miracle or is it killing you Is. You know and you don't know the normal answer. Dan: The answer is yes, and the answer is yes. Dean: Yeah, I mean it's so funny. But true, right Like so. Dan: I mean the whole thing, that there was some wisdom, that they had before COVID, which they disregarded. One is that what you have to do is go for the 65-year-olds and older and protect them. Yeah. Dan: Protect the humans that are over 65. That's because there's a likelihood they've got a lot of other conditions that this will put them over the edge. This new thing will put them over the edge. Okay, no they want to start at six months old, they want to start at a year old, you know. Yeah. Dan: I mean, the masks were bigger than the child's head, you know Right, and everything like that. It had nothing to do with medicine. It had nothing to do. It had a lot to do with control. Yes, yes, and I don't know if we've learned anything about vaccines over the last four years, but a large portion of the public has learned not to trust healthcare experts. Public Right, especially public healthcare, that's what we've learned. Yeah, I mean, that's what we've learned Exactly. Dan: Yeah, like, don't go to the water hole at sunrise or sunset, right? Yeah, I mean, that's the truth. Dean: Right. Dan: I mean creditors show up for easy eating. Yes, you know. So my sense is a lot has been learned over the last four years, but I don't think it had anything to do with vaccines. Dean: Yeah, yeah, I agree, and that's, I think, from the you know, for the general public, for people you know observing this, it really creates the sense of you know, nervous, breakdown level things, of you know that there it feels like you're there's no right answer, that it's wrong. You know that you're either COVID's going to get you or the vaccine's going to get you and you can't make the right decision. People are not there's no uncertainty in the decision. Dan: Are your Tesla is going to explode. Right, exactly, or they're going to you know, and there's the thing, right. Dean: That's all part of it. That's what your Tesla is going to be shut down. You know that the government's going to control. Yeah, I mean, there's so much, yeah, I love this. Dan: You know, I mean I'm not. Babs loves her Tesla and she has the same model you do, and she's had it for six years and she loves it and I love Babs, so it works. But I really liked my Beamer. I really liked the Beamer we had before. Dean: You know what? Dan: It didn't get any smarter in the garage overnight. And when the car goes into the garage when the car goes into the garage before dark and we close the door. I don't want a smarter car. When I pick up the phone, oh my goodness. Dean: You know, what's so funny is I think it's so presumptuous, so fun. I wake up, I get in the car and it tells me it's nine minutes to Haven Bakery, haven Cafe. It's like telling me that. Or at Honeycomb Cafe, it's telling me nine minutes, traffic is okay. It's presuming where I'm going. Dan: Well, why can't you just take a chance? I wonder how the traffic is going to be this morning. To see that there's a pleasure has been taken away from me. Yeah yeah. Dean: It's so funny, right? I don't have any, you've got certainty and I just push the button and let it drive me there. So that's the greatest thing you know. It's so funny. Dan: Yeah it's like you know it's 2001,. Stanley Kubrick's movie. What was the astronauts name? I forget, but that Hal was talking to us. What do you think you're doing? Was it Doug? Or I'm trying to think he's. Hal Dave. Dan: Yeah, hal was the computer you know yeah. Which is just IBM. You know, if you take IBM backwards, you come up with Hal, but anyway, and it's saying what do you think you're doing, dave? You know, like that. Dan: It's nine minutes to the coffee show, Dave. Dean: Right. Why are you turning left? Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, why are you? Dan: even wondering Goodness, that is funny though that your car. Dean: You wake up and your car is smarter it was. Oh man. Dan: Oh, you said it at the beginning. You said it was the beginning. Dean, that's all a fight and competition for your brain, that's what it is. Dean: It's the absolute truth you know, and I think that you, you know, I think you've cut off the good portion of that access to your brain by removing yourself from programming television and you're becoming the program director. Dan: Well, think about this as an entrepreneur, that if you want to know the distinction between an entrepreneur, and a non-entrepreneur you know and I think about this a lot because I've been at it for 50 years right now, and I've asked that question a lot, you know. Do you think entrepreneurs are born? And I said well that I couldn't attest to it. Yes, they were born, but you know, or you know, is it learned? And I said well, I don't know the answer to that question, but I would say that the entrepreneurs I know were on a path that was decidedly different, probably before they were 10 years old. They weren't going along with the crowd, they were. they were doing something individual, kind of on their own because, they were very curious about something, and most people who aren't entrepreneurs were more socially addicted. You know what did the group think and what they had, but if you think about that, you're a self programmer. The big thing about entrepreneurs is that we're self programmers, in other words, we program the next day, we program the next week, we program. You know, here we are on New Year's Eve and both of us are programming the next year and it really doesn't have to do with anybody else's programming. Dean: Yeah, that's the greatest thing. This is going to be a big 2024, it's going to be a big year. I mean you're about, you're going to turn 80 in. Dan: May, yeah, and it's 50 years coaching 50 years coaching since and the company. The program is 35 years old, so yeah, they're at 35th and yeah, I mean, yeah, they all three of them happened this year, but but I mean we just came off our best year ever. I mean just in terms of you know new people into the program and everything else. Yeah, we hit 52, which was great. 952 new people in the program that's awesome, and except for two presentations, I didn't have anything to do with that. That's a real, that's a real good measurement for me. Dean: Yeah, for sure. And now this year, this will be your first year with only free zone workshops. Dan: No that was. Dean: This was your first year. Dan: Yeah, this I stopped, I stopped. I'm just trying to take one. Did that Cross over? That's what I'm wondering, yeah. Dan: No, it was January of last year, January. Dean: Okay, so this year was yeah, I've gotten a full year full year with only free zone. Dan: Yeah, right, and you know, really caused a lot of tension for a lot of people in the company and everything else and I said, well, it's going to happen sometime. Why don't we just make it happen right now? Yeah. Dan: And you know there was pushback and you know the usual sort of thing. But my way of creating change is just to create a vacuum. Yeah, right, something's going to fill it. Speaker 3 Throw your hat over the fence. Yeah. Dan: So I announced in the middle of just trying to take care. I announced in the middle of 2021. So it was June of 2021. At the end of 22, I'm not going to do any more 10 times workshops. Right, yeah, I remember. Dan: People said, well, how are we going to do this? And I said my security clearance doesn't go that high, I just have no idea. I just know that after the end of next year I'm not going to do any 10 times workshops. Okay, and. I've done this enough in the past. People and Babs and I had already worked this out, so that wasn't Babs and I are saying that something's going to happen. Well, that's not negotiable. Dean: Right, yeah, that's awesome. Dan: But we have five coaches, who you know, who had to jump to the next level, and they did a good job and the renewals are more or less the same as if I was doing the workshops at the end of the first year, pointing off here, pointing out there. So you know, and you know, and I think we had 180 people who moved from the signature level to the end times. So that was great. Dean: Oh, I didn't have a. Dan: I didn't have anything to do with that, and the more things that can happen in the company that I don't do or don't even know about, the better I feel. Speaker 3 Yes, yes, that's yeah that's pretty exciting, I'm talking about. I'm talking about. Yeah, no, I bet it. Dean: I'm sure any dip in the you know 10 times conversions or whatever was offset by people in 10 times who want to stay with Dan moving up to freedom. Imagine that was offset by that. Yeah. Dan: Well, it pushes. It pushes both ways. But the one thing that we realized, that I hadn't thought of that. Really worked out great, and it's only because of COVID. It's the two hour. Zoom workshops, yeah, so every quarter. Dan: I do six two hour 10 times workshops and I do two hour free zone workshops and that little two hour thing, which was only possible because of COVID Nobody, nobody watched Zoom before. Covid has made a world of difference. It's made a world of difference. So I was only going to do that for a year and now I'm going to. I've extended it to the end of 24. And I like that yeah. Dan: But I like it, I like it and everybody else likes it, and it seems to work. But I don't think that would have ever happened if I hadn't just said no more full day in-person workshops. Dean: Right, yeah, that's fantastic, so you're coming up now. This is interesting, then the when did your quarterly book? Did that start on your birthday? That was the end of the end of 2014. Dan: So next December it'll be book 40. Dean: Right, okay, there you go. And we're just curious about your intention and your plan for your 80s being the best decades. Dan: Well, I'll do 40 more books because I'm not to 100 yet. So, and they're getting better. I mean, I can tell the feedback from our longtime clients. They said you know the books are really, they're really getting more interesting. They're not just program tools that you're explaining, you're doing right, doing all sorts of different things, but the insight I had, dean, was that a lot of people spend years, even decades, on books Okay, which, yeah, aren't finished, which aren't finished, right, and they they maybe have 20 or 30 chapters and each of the chapters are kind of interesting, not equal to each other but their interest. I said, why don't you just take one of the chapters and turn it out as a book? And of course you and I went through the early days when you could do this quickly, when you had the 90 minute book idea and are continuing to do that. And then I think it was who was it that came up with they could turn a book around in a week for you if you just send it in for them. Who is that Amazon? Is it Amazon? Yeah, I think it's Amazon Exactly. Dan: Yeah, amazon yeah, and we use. Dean: yeah, I mean it's yeah. Dan: And yeah, and perfectly good, you know, perfectly useful, and but we've got our own. You know print shops here in Toronto and it's a lot cheaper than in the US. We found out that a point to realize for you living in the States that getting a book printed in Toronto is about 40% cheaper than getting a book printed in Chicago, dollar for dollar. You know Canadian dollar. Dean: Wow, Even after the exchange rate right. Yeah, yeah. Dean: After the exchange rate yeah, yeah, you're, yeah. The other thing is yeah, my head. Dean: You know it's not a unique. You have a one of one style of book. That everything about it, from the double cover to the thickness of the color cover, to the paper stock on the inside and the color scheme, and you know it's one of one. There's no, there's nothing else like it. Dan: Yeah, and I've told people you know you're sitting on books. I mean you're always talking about writing the book. But where's the book? You know, why don't you just get the book finished? And they said well, you know, you know. I said I said you're thinking about it too much, you're not executed. I said just get the book out there. I said it's not going to change the world, it's not going to be a bestseller, they're not going to make a Hollywood movie out of it. So Right. And what it does is it gets some old ideas in your head out so that you can have some new ideas. Dean: Yeah, the truth isn't it. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what a collection to going all the way back to book number one and then to book, you know, whatever you're at now I'm working on 7 right now. Yeah, yeah. Dan: Well, I get a lot out of it and of course we've got great teamwork inside the company when we started with your team actually the first one. Dean: I remember the first couple Thinking about your thinking that was the first book. Dan: And then you know, some of our team members said well, we could do this, and we could do this, and we could do this. And I said that's great. Plus, the technology just keeps improving. I mean, if you think I started that in. Where's the technology today compared to where? it was in 2014,. Dan: You know. Yeah, yes. Dan: So my cartoonist Hamish McDonald. I estimate that every year I get the productivity capability of another Hamish just because of the upgrades to software and hardware. Dean: To the tools he's able to use and deploy. Dan: Oh. Dean: Yeah, oh yeah. Dan: I mean, like I'll, we're right at the end of the book I'm working on. So we're just working on the conclusion and the program where we describe strategic coach. Those are the last two sections. So on Tuesday I'll sit down and we'll sketch out what the cartoon is going to be for the conclusion. I've got the outline, with the outline copy all done, so we can read it. Yeah. Dan: And we'll sketch it out and we'll have another meeting on Thursday and he'll be 90% finished Full color. Yeah. Dan: And we do a little tweaks and then in the last 10 minutes we say well, let's look at the next section and he'll sketch it out, and on Monday of the following week he'll be finished with the cartoon. Book one that was a 10 day process for. That was a 10 day process for one sections cartoons. Dean: Right, well, it's wild. And now I guess you know I mean book 36,. You've got all of the ear. You've evolved it into all of the ways to consume. Now you know that you've got the cartoons and the audio and the video. Dan: Yeah, so we're going to do one new thing that Dean and we could talk about this. We're going to do one new thing, probably the first quarter. I'm going to take one of the books and we're just got it down to choice of three and we're going to create an AI chat on just that book. Okay, so the entire knowledge base will just be the words that are in that particular book. And then we'll use, and Leor Weinstein is helping us with this. Dean: And then. Dan: So in addition to the audio, the video, the cartoons, the text, you'll also get the AI and you can ask the book questions and it'll answer you. Dean: Do you think, dan, this is? I've had this in this conversation. Maybe we could have a whole discussion around this, but because I you know this is a very real capability of AI right now, but I think that there's. I would rather have the AI ask me questions and guide me through the process than me having to ask the questions. Yeah because that requires me having included yeah it requires work. Yes, that's exactly right. We're inquiring, you and I, how that's exactly right, and I would much rather I would love to have an AI coach me through applying this to me. So it was hey that hey, hey, hey yeah. Dan: Well, I think you should go get in the car and take a 15 minute, 15 minute drive to the car. Dean: I think that's not you know, because somebody else. No, no, no that's brilliant. Dan: That's brilliant. Let's talk about that. Yeah because somebody else that actually indicates some intelligence, doesn't it? Dean: Yes, but the thing is that you know that application where, if I could go through a track, it's like a guided thing. If you could train the AI as a coach in this to guide somebody through where they're at and how this would apply to them, like somebody had, because somebody was training up a Napoleon Hill that you could chat with Napoleon Hill and you could ask him any questions. And I just realized that much better experience. Dan: You could have one from Jerry Spence. Yes. Dean: How great would that be right, Jerry Spence coaching. Dan: Well, he would ask you all sorts of adverts questions before you know that's, that's his book is great, by the way, you put me on to him. Yes, you know more or less his autobiography. But nice person, I mean he comes across. I mean probably a prick if he was the opposing lawyer in a trial, but he seems like, if you had him on your side, you'd feel good about him. Dean: That's exactly true. I need to reread that again. That how to argue and win every time is one of my top wisdom books. Dan: Yeah, Anyway what did we cover today? What are two or three things that we covered today? Dean: So follow the money, follow the money. Dan: Yeah, we found out about what the Hamas is about. All the money was in Kedr, you know the country of. Kedr. The three top people were worth 6 billion, 5 billion and 4 billion. So that's what Hamas is all about is about money, you know, and their racket. Dean: That's amazing. Dan: Anyway, yeah, but okay, follow the money. What's in the other thing? Dean: Yeah, I think your strategy. It's always amazed me this last five years of your disconnecting from programming. Dan: Yeah other people's programming. Dean: Other people's programming. Yeah. Dean: I think that's a big thing. One thing we did not get to talk about that I want to maybe present next time is I watched another Russell Barclay video and they're talking about executive function and the. It's really an interesting distinction but the difference between you know what and how, knowing what and how is not effective. That the ADHD brain is not. It's not inhibited in the knowing what and how to do. It's the when and the where. That is where executive function comes in and I found that that's absolutely the truth in a real. It sounds so simple and obvious, but it's the absolute truth. That's the thing about you know. Imagine if you applied yourself. Applying yourself is only evidence in the when and the where, both where, when and where. Future and when and where is this going to happen and when and where did it happen? You know what actually happened. That's the an often those don't align. I find for me that's the biggest. That's the biggest disconnect is knowing what I want to do, knowing what you know, how it needs to happen, even projecting when and where, but the alignment of you know missing the exit kind of be interesting with the intention. Dan: That'd be an interesting question, yeah because, the appropriateness of things is really not the what or the how the appropriateness is really the when and where it makes appropriate or inappropriate, you know yeah. Yeah, great topic. Dean: Yeah, how about for you? What was your take away from today? Dan: Yeah, I think that the big thing that I'm zeroing in is the bet that human nature is fairly constant and that changing times simply means humans using different capabilities that they've already developed for new purposes, but the basic human nature remains fairly constant, and the more I mean it was, you know, was Jeff Bezos was asked what do you think's going to change most in the next 10 years, and he said the thing I'm most interested in what are the 10 things that aren't going to change? Yeah next 10 years, because you can actually bet on those. Yeah bet on those better than what is going to change Awesome. Dean: Well. Dan: I think we, I think we, each of us, says on our part today I think so Absolutely. Dean: I can't believe it. Let this quickly Alas, it did so, yeah, and. Dan: I'm we're in the schedule for Albie in Chicago next week. But we're in the schedule, so I'll talk to you from Chicago. Dean: I love it. That sounds great. All right, happy New Year, dan, to you and Babs. Have a wonderful night. Okay, we'll talk to you soon. Bye.

Join us as we welcome internet marketing titan, Perry Belcher, to the AM/PM Podcast! Listen in as we journey through Perry's remarkable career path - from humble beginnings before turning to digital marketing. Perry's illustrious career even saw him get a personal call from none other than Jeff Bezos himself, a short story you don't want to miss!   The conversation continues with Perry reflecting on the rise and fall of his business and partnerships. His journey, marked by selling health supplements to launching a digital marketing business, and finally starting the Driven Mastermind and the War Room, is an insightful one for any entrepreneur. Our chat also covers the importance of joining a mastermind group, the benefits it can bring, and how it can help you gain a broad perspective of different industries.   Lastly, Perry shares fascinating insights about the role of AI in business, specifically in copywriting. From reducing labor costs to crafting compelling headlines and stories, the potential applications of AI are far-reaching. He also discusses misconceptions people have about AI and the opportunities it presents. Tune in for a riveting discussion about the intersection of AI, E-commerce, and internet marketing. In episode 365 of the AM/PM Podcast, Kevin and Perry discuss: 09:22 - Success in Real Estate and Selling 16:45 - Running Successful Events 23:30 - The Value of Networking and Collaboration 29:55 - Selling Event Recordings for Profit 34:19 - Cash Prize Incentives for Speakers 39:00 - Leveraging Email Lists for Business Success 42:06 - Artificial Intelligence And Its Impact On Internet Marketing 53:21 - Other Mindblowing AI Capabilities 57:27 - AI's Role in Various Industries 1:07:38 - Follow Perry on Facebook for Updates 1:09:46 - Kevin's Words Of Wisdom Kevin King: Welcome to episode 365 of the AEM PM podcast. My guest this week is none other than the famous Perry Belcher. If you don't know who Perry is, perry is one of the top internet marketers, probably one of the top copywriters in the world today. He's got his hands in all kinds of stuff, from newsletters to AI, to print on demand to funnels, to you name it. In marketing, Perry's either got tremendous amount of experience in it or he's heavily involved in it right now. We talked some shop today and just go kind of all over the place on some really cool, interesting topics. I think you're getting a lot from this episode, so I hope you enjoy it. And don't forget, if you haven't yet, be sure to sign up for the Billion Dollar Sellers Newsletter. It's at billiondollarsellerswithaness.com. It's totally free. New issue every Monday and Thursday. It's getting rave reviews from people in the industry and some of the top people in the industry as well as people just getting started. So it's got a little bit different take on it and just a lot of information. Plus, we have a little bit of fun as well in the newsletter. So hopefully you can join us at billiondollarsellers.com. Enjoy today's episode with Perry. Perry Belcher, welcome to the AM/PM Podcast. It's an honor to have you on here. How's?   Perry: it going, man, Dr King, esquire at all. I'm doing great, buddy, I'm doing great. I'm just trying to survive this hot, hot, hot summer that we're all having, you know.   Kevin King: Well, you're out there in Vegas. Y'all had floods, right. I was seeing some stuff on TikTok, like some of the casino garages and stuff were flooding.   Perry: Yeah, there were some floods out here, so it's been. We got like years worth of rain in two days or something like that, they said, which we could stand. It didn't hurt. But the hot weather out here is just the way that it is. You get used to it after a little while.   Kevin King: Yeah, it's the same in Austin. It's like 108, I think today, and I know you know, football season just recently started and everybody's complaining that they're doing a game. One of the first games was in the middle of the afternoon, like 2.30 in the afternoon and like man, half these people are going to be dying out there, you better have some extra medical. You know supposed to do these things at night in Texas during September.   Perry: My kid did in the middle of the day and he had some days that they were kids passing out, you know. So I don't miss the heat in Austin. I'll take the heat in Vegas instead. It's different kind of heat to me.   Kevin King: Yeah, it's not. It's more of a dry heat, not that, not that human heat that we have here. I'll take it so for those. There's some probably some people listening that don't know. They're like who's this? Perry Belcher character? I never heard of this Perry Belcher guy and if you haven't, you've probably been living on a rock in internet marketing, because Perry Belcher is one of the living legends out there and when it comes to internet marketing, it's not just he dabbles on Amazon, but it's Amazon's just a little piece of what he does. He does a ton of other stuff. So, and you've been doing this since you're like, you've been an entrepreneur since you're like I don't know, three years old. I heard you selling hot dogs. I mean, you've pretty much done, everything from run from selling hot dogs to running, I don't know jewelry, pear shops or something, to having little kiosk in the mall, to crazy kind of stuff. I mean, just for those that don't know who the heck you are, just give a little bit about your background.   Perry: Sure, I'm world famous in Kazakhstan. I started out, you know, I grew up really poor in little town in Kentucky, paducah. It's a sound of dead body makes when it hits the floor. And I'll as soon as I could. I stayed there until I could drive. I could drive a car. I got the heck out of there and went to the big city, nashville, you know, and I got into, you know, early on I got into retail and I owned 42 jewelry stores. At one time when I was really, really young, before I was old enough to buy beer, I owned 42 jewelry stores. Isn't that crazy? That's crazy. Not that I didn't buy beer, but as long as I was legally buying beer Exactly. You know. So I was in retail. I went out of, you know, eventually I made three different runs and retailed it, Okay, and then I got into manufacturing. I found I really enjoyed manufacturing Great deal. I still do a lot of manufacturing, as you know and then along, I guess about 1997, for those young whippersnappers that were born about then that are on in your Amazon crowd right In 1997, they invented this thing called the interwebs and Jeff Bezos started a store called Amazon and I sort of got. I sort of got all caught up in the web thing. And you probably don't know this story. It was a true story, Kevin. I got a call from Jeff Bezos when I owned craftstorecom, so this was in probably 1998 or 1999. I got a personal call from Jeff Bezos wanting to talk to me about buying craftstorecom and rolling it into the Amazon family. And then they were only selling books, they were bleeding I don't even know $100 million, a quarter, or some crazy number. And I'm like dude, you're, I'm reading about you, you're losing money, I'm making money. You know, I think you got this reversed. I probably should buy you. I swear to God, I said that. Yeah yeah, I said that that was about best I can figure about a $750 million mistake.   Kevin King: Well, it's funny you say that, because I mean we go back, we're old school when it comes to way, before you know all this internet marketing craze. We were doing old school marketing, you know, by by putting a postage stamp on an envelope and sending it out. And I remember I have a couple of similar stories back around that same time, early late 90s, early 2000s. The guy at MySpace had just started somewhere around in there and those guys reached out to me. I had a newsletter, an online newsletter going at the time, and they reached out to me to do something and I turned. I just ignored them. I was like what's this MySpace thing? I never heard of it.   Perry: I did the same thing with Jim Barksdale. You know who that was. Yeah, yeah, barksdale wanted to buy one of my companies and I blew them off, and he was Netscape you know they also used to do back you might remember this back.   Kevin King: I had several different websites and to get traffic back before there was Google and all these. You know, this SEO and all this stuff is basically as Alta Vista and you know, I love that, I love that Yahoo and all these guys and you could just just by putting stuff in the meta tags, you'd rank, you know on top of the crap out of yeah. You put a text down at the bottom and all the good, all the good, all the good all the good, all that kind of stuff. But I one of the things, what you might remember this there is what's called ring sites. So in order to get traffic, you go to some guy would figure out how to get people to his site and then it would be like next or previous, and you'd hit a button and it would go to the next, previous, and then we had a newsletter that was doing about 250,000 emails a day back before can spam and all that stuff and to get traffic to it. You know, we were getting on Howard Stern Show when he was on terrestrial radio and we were doing all kinds of crazy stuff. But I was working with a site called BOMAS B-O-M-I-S and they had one of these ring sites and we they were like one of our top sources of traffic and I just remember there's two guys there running out of their apartment or something. I talked to one of them. This is like probably around 2000 or so, ish, 2001. He said, hey, you're going to be dealing with me from now on. My buddy is moving on. I'm like all right. I said James is moving on. I said, ok, cool, what's he going to do? He said I don't know, some sort of encyclopedia or something. I'm not sure what he's going to do. He's got some some crazy idea. Turns out it was Jimmy Wells from Wikipedia. I was actually working with Jimmy Wells from Wikipedia before he was Jimmy Wells from Wikipedia. Isn't that crazy? It's crazy, I mean the stories that we can tell from the early days of the Internet.   Perry: When I look back, I just can't. You know my buddy's favorite saying, and I've adopted this I can't believe how stupid I was two weeks ago.   You know like you. Just you just realize you know just the boneheaded stuff that you did when there was so much opportunity. The first domain I ever bought this was like just when domain registrations came out I bought formulas, the number four you oh wow com, the most worthless domain anyone could ever own, when I could have probably bought internet.com Pretend to buy anything and I bought the most boneheaded stuff. You know.   Kevin King: Well, you remember the guy that he got in early he bought was at sex.com or something for, like you know, 10 bucks or whatever it cost to register it back then before there was a go daddy, yeah, and remember the fight like 20 years ago over that domain because it became like the most valuable domain on the entire Internet or something. Remember that huge fight about that.   Perry: It was. It was crazy, but I know there's been a bunch of those stories. Man, I've got some friends that really did well buying domain real estate early on. I bought a lot. I mean I've, over time, I still think domains are a bargain. I really do Most. For the most part, I own stuff like sewing.com and makeuptutorials.com and diyprojects.com. I still own some big stuff that we operate and I own a bunch of other big stuff that we don't operate and you know I'm buying after markets.   Now I bought conventions.com for a little over $400,000 two weeks before COVID Boy. That timing was extraordinary. You know what could go wrong. Conventions are impervious to depression and so anyway, yeah, so I started buying. You know I got a manufacturing and I immediately saw the benefit of online selling because you could cut out all the different layers of middlemen in the in between the consumer and the manufacturer. So I've been a manufacturer selling direct to consumer for a long time. And then I got. I got in business with Ryan Dice. After I got in a lot of trouble, almost went to jail in the supplement business scares me to death to this day. You know I lost everything I had, almost went to the clink, and when that all got settled out I went to business with Ryan Dice and we he turned me on really to the information selling world.   Kevin King: How'd you guys meet up? Was it at some events, or did you just meet up? Yeah, we met up.   Perry: Yeah, I'll tell you, the story is pretty funny story. So we met at a Yonix Silver event. We went to dinner with, you know, all these millionaires, you know in the room, the millionaire mastermind people, and we went to this big dinner and we had like 20 people at the dinner and when the check came it was like, well, I only had a salad, well, I only had the soup, and you know they're all dividing up checks and crap. And I'm like, come on and Ryan looked at me and I looked at him. He said do you just want to pay this bill and get the hell out of here? And I said, yeah, so we split the bill. And that's how we became friends, how we met. And then, you know, when I we knew each other through Yonix and then when I got in trouble in the supplement business, I mean, I had loads of friends when you're, when you're now and when you're when you're netting out half million dollars a month and you're flying all your friends on private jets, the Thomas and crap on the weekends, boy, you got lots of friends, you know. And as soon as the money ran out, well, guess what? The friends ran out. You know, you know everything was, you know. Nobody knew who I was. Then, you know, and Ryan called me and said hey, man, I got this business in Austin. It's doing a couple million dollars a year. If you'll come help me run it, I'll give you half of it. Oh, wow, and we did $9 million in the first seven months.   Kevin King: And that was a digital marketer. For those of you that don't know, that's correct.   Perry: Yeah, it was called touch tone publishing then, but eventually we rebranded it became digital marketer and then out of digital marketer came traffic and conversion summit and out of traffic and conversion summit came the war room mastermind and we ran all three of those for years. And digital we sold a TNC to a Claire and Blackstone Blackstone group about four years ago, I guess. Then I sold my interest in digital marketer to Ryan and Ryan, roland, richard about two years ago and then we dissolved war room about a year ago I guess they were going a different direction and and Kossim Islam and Jason Flylon I started driven mastermind so but yeah, it was a great, great run with. Those guys are super good, guys are super, super smart and we were business partners for 14 years long time. It's a long. That's a you know outlast a long time.   Kevin King: That's a long time in this business longer than all my marriages, almost divine, you know. So going just down. We'll talk about some of those in just a second, but just down that back what? What got you in trouble in the supplement business was it claims that you just didn't realize you couldn't be. Yeah, what was the it?   Perry: was kind of a combination. I was. I was legitimately a pharmaceutical manufacturer. We were an FDA pharmaceutical manufacturer. I got all the licensure and all that I got in trouble with the state had nothing to do with the federal. They called in federal, they called in DA, they called in everybody, like guys. Everything he's doing is correct. But the state took issue to some claims and what ended up happening? They realized that they had not. The thing is, once the state gets their tentacles into you and have your money, you know it's really hard to get rid of them, right? They're like a tick. But. But at the end of the day, the only thing that that that they actually that stuck was something called ways and measures. So that meant that my equipment wasn't precise enough to put the exact amount of product per bottle. So let's say it says it's two ounces right, mine might be 2.1 or 1.9 ounces right, and that's there's. There are state laws about that. They're called ways and measures laws. They're governed by the people who manage gas pumps, if you could believe it. But out of everything that they originally said that I was doing, they dropped everything else and that was the only thing that actually, at the end of the day, was it? But I had to settle it and they got all my money and all my stuff and left me three million dollars in debt. And when, when I went to Austin and we hustled hard, you know, for a couple of years, and I paid all that off, I didn't file bankruptcy on it and it was hilarious because I threw a Perry's broke party. Yeah, about two years in, when I got to zero, I got back to just broke. I wasn't three million dollars, right. I threw a giant Perry's broke party as maybe one of the most fun parties we've ever had. It was a little you're in.   Kevin King: Austin's, you do that out at Willie Nelson's ranch. Because, I was tapes, remember he did that when he got in trouble for seven million bucks and he did some sort of big ass fundraising party out. He has this like old ranch out West of Texas, west of Austin that's. It's got a studio lot on it, basically an old.   Perry: House. Then I just had it right over the house and we had a big pool party and, oh my Lord, so many drunk people. It was a lot of fun, it was good time, so I got a lot of friends at Austin and you'll talk digital marketer.   Kevin King: the conference from like. I think the first one's a few hundred people to what the? Now it's five, six thousand people, or yeah, we get the biggest internet for if you're an internet marketing, yeah, just in in general, it's not just Amazon, it's like across the board, it's the biggest one out there, I think.   Perry: Yeah, before the year before COVID, I think we had the biggest year was seventy two hundred. Oh wow, seventy two hundred, seventy eight hundred, I can't remember. They thought we were going to ten thousand the next year and they rented the Coliseum in San Diego instead of the hotels. And then, of course, covid yeah, and it was just a you know, two or three years we had sold just prior to that. So have we not have sold that first year of COVID? I think was probably around a five million dollar loss, but they had clear and had insurance for it, fortunately. So I don't think they. I don't. I don't know the exact damage, but I know it would have probably wiped us out and we've been because we had a refund. Tickets with In the venue would not have soft to hook and I was a big bunch of crap when it comes to running conferences.   Kevin King: I mean, I do my billion dollar solar summit. You do your events now, like you do. You've done the couple AI summits, you've done the Perry's weird event or whatever. You do quite a different things. You have the Whatever, whatever, whatever. You done like three of those which are fascinating. You do, you know, you have the driven mastermind and you're involved with digital market and our space. There's a ton of people it's almost gotten through Events for Amazon sellers, like everybody. Everybody in their dog wants to have an event and the vast majority of them suck. There's like seven people there they can't sell tickets that are losing their shirt. Very few of them actually make money. What is the key actually, if you want to do an event or you're thinking about that to actually making these things work, is it the long term play you gotta have? The upsell is at the.   Perry: Well, events, events are very, very much an uphill battle. That's the reason. When you go to sell one, they have a lot of value. If you go to, if you build an event to a thousand, two thousand people, it has a lot of value in the exit market because once an event hits a certain inflection point, they're insanely profitable. So you're so, like digital market, we lost money On TNC for probably the first four years that we did it. But the way we made up for it, we filmed all of the sessions and we sold them as individual products. So we built all of our. We had a thing that really made that thing magical, because every session had to be good enough to sell as a product. So it made the event itself, you know, great because you had to have executable do this, do this, do this, do this. It couldn't just be a fluffy talk, right. Every talk had to be good enough to sell as a product when Ryan and I were doing them. So for the first three or four years we didn't make hardly any money, but we generated a lot of product out of that. We sold throughout the year. So we, you know, we did make money a couple million dollars a year From the product sales and then over time, as the attendance goes up, the ticket prices tend to go up. You start at really low ticket prices and you ratchet ticket prices up as the event gets bigger and bigger, bigger, and you start taking on sponsors and we basically got to the point by the time that we sold. You don't really want to sell right, because the sponsors were paying for 80 90% of the cost to put on the event. Tickets were you then over a thousand dollars a ticket? We were selling 7000 tickets. You didn't really need to sell, you know, because you the event was paid for by the sponsors. The ticket sales money was just free money. And then whatever you do at the event, you know in sales is even more free money. But when you look at companies like Clary on the by these things, they don't care about the product creation, they don't care about selling at the event, they only care about tickets and they make a lot of money on hotel rooms. So they so in when, when they're promoting they got a lot of cash, so they'll buy all the hotel rooms in downtown San Diego a year before we, right before we, now we announced the dates, they buy all the rooms and then when you're buying your room from bookingcom or American Express or whatever, you're actually buying that ticket from Clary on, because Clary on in a lot of cases bought all the rooms in the city for $120 a night and then a year later you're paying 350 on AmEx and they just pay AmEx a commission, a 20% commission.   Kevin King: That's different than the way when I do like for a billion dollar so much in order to not have to pay you know, $3,000 to turn the Internet on in the ballroom, or to have to per day, or from not having to pay for the ballrooms or this or that. We have to do guarantees. Rather than buying the rooms up front, we have to guarantee that we're going to put 50 butts in the in these beds or whatever. If we don't, we get penalized, you know, yeah, right.   Perry: We did a little bit different model. Yeah, we did, we did too. You still have room blocks, you know, and the killer and the killer in the convention businesses contract negotiation and room blocks. You know, if you can get room blocks down, we did one recently at the ARIA and I didn't have a room block anywhere because the ARIA surrounded by like eight hotels within walking distance, so there's no reason to book a room block. Everybody could stay where they wanted within that complex and the room blocks Everybody could stay where they wanted within that complex. And then we got together and it didn't. It didn't create the problem, but you know they get you. Would they charge you more for F&B? So they, they're going to get you right. So I've got my own event center now I've got a 50 person event center. I think we're going to expand to 100 people and and I really prefer having smaller workshops anyway, they're they're more intimate, they're more effective and if you're going to sell something else to the attendees, the smaller the room, the higher your conversion rates will always be if you're offering something to the attendees.   Kevin King: That's true, yeah, so then you took it from there to the mastermind you did the war room for a long time and I know my buddies, Manny  and Guillermo, at Helium 10. They joined the war room about two years into working on helium 10. They said that was the number one life changing thing that they did.   Perry: They killed it to that.   Kevin King: I don't know the numbers, but I know it's. I see what he's spending and what he's doing, so I'm like it's some serious numbers. But they they attribute that to war room, because there was some. Y'all did one event and I think it was in Austin, actually around 2018 ish, and it was all about system. Whatever the talk was on that one, because they're quarterly, they were quarterly deals. I think it was all about systemizing and getting out your way and like cutting all the riffraff. I don't, but they said that was. It was game changing for them and made them tens of millions of dollars. So, but to join a war room was what 30 grand, I know driven was what you have now which I've been driven 30 grand.   Perry: Yeah, I've been to.   Kevin King: I've been to driven. I went to the one back in July which was excellent out in LA and and I love going to these. Those of you are listening. You know this is not an Amazon conference. A lot of us go to Amazon conferences, but I think the best conferences for me are actually the non Amazon conferences, because I go into something like a driven where there's yeah, there's a handful of Amazon people there, but there's also a bunch of Facebook people. There's also a bunch of domain people, there's SEO people, there's people that you know just have some sort of a shop in Baltimore that you know do internet marketing and you, you meet this range of people and for me it's brainstorming sessions. I'm uninterrupted. You know if I'm watching stuff online, even the recording of that, you know I got phone calls coming in, the dogs barking. You know wife's nagging, whatever it may be. You're interrupted. But you're sitting in a room from nine to five, obviously not in the room. You're sitting in a room From nine to five listening to people, these people talking a lot of it. You might already know, some of it may be new to you, but you're just in there. One guy says something, perry says something, and then Kazim says something, and then Jason says something, and whoever else the speaker says something, you start going. If I put all these things together and I can do this for my business, holy shit, this is freaking incredible. And so that's. These people look at me. And why the heck would I pay 25 or 30 grand to be in some sort of event? And if in the Amazon space, I personally wouldn't, because I'm going to be the one delivering most of the value in a lot of cases. And so why would I pay to join something? They should be paying me to come to it. But when you go to something where it's a cross section of people in the marketing world that all think like you but they do different things, I think that's the most valuable thing, would you? Would you agree?   Perry: I think honestly, I think in a good mastermind and that there's that good being in parenthesis and a good mastermind. I don't think you can lose money. I think it's almost impossible. I've made money in every mastermind I've ever been in you just, I like the idea of the diversity, right. I might learn something from a guy in the funeral industry that can be applied to somebody that's selling weight loss, right. You never know. And you know my benefit. I guess I've been around a long time, like you, kevin, I've been around the block a bunch and I've been fortunate enough to work with like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of businesses Pretty intimately in the, in the, the war room and now driven setting, and you know I get to see what's working and what's not working from like a 10,000 foot view inside all these businesses. So for me personally it's a great benefit that I get to learn something from really diverse. You know I learned the other day I was talking to a friend of mine, a client, that that they're in the, they sell online, that you book an appointment, you know they call you in, whatever, and they're in an industry that I have no interest in, no knowledge of, right. But they figured out that if they once somebody's booked an appointment, if they put a zoom, a live zoom, on the thank you page with somebody sitting there going hey, kevin, so glad you booked your appointment. By the way, jimmy can take you right now if you want, right. That one thing those, those people are coming in that way, or converting nine times higher than the people who book a normal sales call. And the beautiful thing now is.   Kevin King: You can do that with AI. There's tools with AI where you could actually, when they fill in that form I'm registered, I'm Kevin air dot AI and all that yeah, several and one that you could actually and you could put in you upload a spreadsheet or tie it into. You know, through an API to your, your cell system, that Jenny is available and it can actually, as I'm typing in, kevin King it's in the background recording a video with with Perry saying hey, hi, kevin, this is Perry. I glad you just signed up. Jenny's available right now. It's all automated and all like holy cow how to help her is just sitting around it and you know the conversions on that go through the roof.   Perry: Oh, they're nutty and but that's something I learned from a person who's in the like the the trauma they. They serve trauma psychiatrists, that's their market and I'm like I would never know that in a million years. Right, but but how many other businesses or clients of mine could that one tactic be applicable to? The answers? A lot, right, so you. So, when you go into those rooms where you know to be in driven, you got to be doing at least a million a year, but I think our average is around seven million a year gross and, and some you know up to, you know there's there's some hundred million dollar Folks and big players in there. There's some big players there, but you but nobody's stupid, right? You're in a room full of really, really smart people when they're basically telling you what they're doing. I joke about. I get paid for people to tell me. I get paid for really smart people to tell me what they're doing. That's really working and what I right, what a great gig I got right. But, yeah, we've been doing it for a really long time there. Those groups masterminds are hard to keep together and Keep happy and all that there because they are, because they're intimate, people share a lot of details and sometimes you have personality, kind of little things. This is crazy nutty stuff. That happens that you, the only problem with those things are just, they're a, they're a bit to, they're a bit to manage and you know that, as far as the 30 grand goes, or 50 grand, or 70. I know a lot of people charge. I know a buddy mine charge is 70,000 a year. You know we act like that's a lot of money but everybody's got an idiot on their payroll that there's a more than 30 grand to, I promise you. Everybody does. Everybody has a dodo on their payroll that they should have fired a long time ago but he brings the doughnuts or something and you don't farm that. Would you rather have that dodo licking stamps four hours a day or would you rather, you know, have access to some of the smartest people and your peers and you know really Really that? Keep you accountable, keep you on your toes and keep you up to date, because we do a call every week along with the meeting. So I I'm not pitching it down, I don't. This is sound like I'm hey, go buy my thing, but no matter what the industry you're in, get into a mastermind group. If you can, it'll one that you can afford.   Kevin King: You know ours is out of reach for most people because they're they're not because it's they can afford it, because they just don't meet the minimum sales, like you said, like you know, if you're at a one million and you said the average is around seven, you know, for 30 grand a year, all you need is one, one little idea, one thing, just you, just the ROI could be immense on just one thing.   Perry: I've heard a hundred times and I got all my value for the year within the first two hours. The first meeting yeah, you know, I've heard that so many times because this Kevin King gets up and talks and says something really smart and you go. Well, that was worth it, right, I got. I learned a thing that I didn't know and and, like you said, when you're doing, the beauty is the reason we don't take people that aren't doing a lot of money yet. It's hard to ROI. But if you're already doing let's say you're doing seven million a year and you get an idea that gives you a 5% bump, right, let's 350 grand, yeah for an idea. And you, you know, you're in for a year. You're in for 52 calls and four live meetings and Intensives and networks and private calls and all kinds of stuff. It's you know and I'm not saying for us, just for any man mind if you get a good mastermind, you can't lose money if you, if you have a good enough business already that you can ROI.   Kevin King: One of the things that you do that's really cool too is, like you said. You know, with digital market and I agree that you know you're recording it, turning it into content you do that now. Well, you'll do a Like that, the weird event you you straight up say, hey, come out to this thing. Yeah, it's gonna be a hundred of you here, but I'm recording this. I'm gonna turn this into a product. Yeah, you turn it into six products. You know, and I didn't with my billion dollar seller summit. I didn't used to record those, but now that's half the prop. That's where the actual the profit is. It's actually in recording it and then selling it to the people that didn't come. But one of the cool things that you do, like it driven and some of your other events your AI event you did this. I think you do it. Probably pretty much everyone I've ever been to is at the end you say get the kick the cameras out of the room, turn everything off. Let's grab a bottle of wine. You sit up with the stage. You might bring a couple other your partners or the couple other speakers and it's just two hours, three hours. They're just shooting the shit of Q&A and, yeah, stuff that comes out of that Alone pays for the entire event.   Perry: Yeah, the unplugged we've we've been doing unplugged forever because at the end of most events, you know, you still have unanswered questions and I don't want people to have unanswered questions. But also some people just don't want to talk about, they don't feel comfortable talking about the particulars of their business on camera. Yeah, so you know, if they because you know, sometimes a lot of my students are also Gurus, right, and you know how gurus are they don't want to tell you that. Well, they don't want to tell you that they're having a hard time making the lease payment on Because they're pretty ill, hurt their image, right, I talk about all of my screw ups and Almost going to jail and going broke and all it, because you know it's real, that's the real of people. But but a lot of the guru guy, well, I can't say that because it was just destroying my image. So I like doing unplugged sessions a lot of times because they people feel a little more comfortable talking about their challenges and Without feeling like it changes their position. And I think sometimes, just, you know, people don't want to ask their question on a microphone in front of a thousand people for fear of embarrassment. And what if my questions? A dumb question. So when you're just sitting down Slugging back a beer and you know chatting they feel more comfortable asking the questions. They probably should be asking it we I've done that as a policy for a really long time. We do wicked smart and we do unplugged, and those are the two. You know we always ask for the best idea in the room, and that that was a funny story.   Wicked smart was invented the first year that Ryan and I did Traffin conversion summit. We programmed three days worth of content for a three-day event and At 11 o'clock on the third day we were out. We'd have anything else to talk about. We actually we had miscalculated our time and we have anything else to talk about. So we went to lunch and we said man, we got to fill all afternoon. What are we gonna do? And and and I don't know if Ryan or I are together, I think we pretty much together we came up with the idea let's just challenge people to come up and tell us the smartest thing They've learned in the last six months and how it affected their business, and let's give whoever gives the best idea. And I think the first person that came up, ryan or I won Jeff Mulligan's, a good friend of ours and he's from as a former boss tonight lives in New Hampshire and he always says wicked smart, that's wicked smart, you know. And yeah, and the first person came up and they did their thing was whoo, that's wicked smart and that's stuck. And that's how wicked smart got started. But we never did unplugged. I used to do unplugged with Andy Jenkins at Stompernet years ago when I would. I used to go speak for them every now and then and one of the things that I did was really, really cool was called unplugged and we just Andy and I, would sit down on the edge of the stage. I don't, andy was brilliant. I don't know if you ever knew him or not. He was absolutely a really really brilliant guy and he and I would sit on the edge of the stage and talk to people for hours. You know it was a lot of fun. So I kind of picked that up from Andy.   Kevin King: Yeah, I do that at the billion dollar source. I'm not do a hat contest, so the last day, what well? I do two things. I incentivize the speakers to bring it, so I put a cash prize on the speakers. So, because I don't want them doing the same presentation they just did it three other conferences or same thing they talked about on podcast I want them to bring their a game, so I put a five thousand dollar cash prize on the first and twenty five hundred on second. It's voted on the last day. I'm ineligible. I always speak last, so I'm ineligible.   But all the other speakers that I invite after the last one spoke, everybody votes On who they thought was the best speaker, deliver the best value, and then that person gets five grand. So it's become like an honor to do that and then, as a result, everybody is bringing next level stuff that they normally wouldn't talk about. Because, and then I publish the list of the and you know, if there's 15 speakers I Public, I start at number 10. I don't show number 11 through 15. I want to embarrass somebody totally, but I start at number 10 and go backwards and announce them up like it's. You know, like it's a billboard top 100 or something, casey casem or whatever and it works really really well because Everybody's. If you're not in the top 10 of a speaker, you're like you know you didn't do so well, you didn't resonate, and then you're not coming back if you need a spelling of my name for the check. You've been involved in AI for like seven years before. It was the cool thing to do, I think probably six yeah, probably six years.   Perry: I got. I spoke on AI at the largest TNC, that one before COVID. I spoke on AI and showed Jarvis and Well said labs and a bunch of those before Anybody or anything, and and everybody in the room was just blown away by it and I feel certain they didn't do anything at all when the dog, you know. But I was using it for copywriting and we were building services For and like this AI bot that were it'll be after this Heirs, but but this AI bot, you know, we're really concentrating more on the business models that you can apply AI to. So the first AI bot summit was all about Opening people's minds up to it, so they understood what it was, understanding how to use the tools and and really just grasping this. One thought of If you had 10,000 really smart people willing to work for you 24 hours a day for free, what would you have them do? That's always my question, because with AI and a little bit of robotics, that's what you have. You have an unlimited amount of Robotic slaves to do your bidding right, whatever you want, and they don't take breaks and they don't break up with a boyfriend and they don't sue you for, you know, workplace compliance issues and all that stuff and, and you're gonna see, I think it's already happening. It's just people aren't exposed to it in mainstream yet, but Corporate is projecting like huge profits over the next few years as they Diminish the amount of workers, physical workers they haven't replaced with AI Elon Musk whether you like him or not, you know, cut the workforce at Twitter by 90% and arguably, the experience for the end user hasn't changed.   Kevin King: Yeah right, yeah, it's, it's your event back in just to tell a quick little story. Then we'll go into this. But your event back in April. You're showing some business uses. You know you're talking about the army of 10,000. You showed something about a. You know here's a building, the payroll of this building and use AI and the payroll goes from I don't know some crazy number of a million dollars a month to 86 dollars a month or what some exaggerate there.   Perry: It's the Empire State Building and the payroll. The daily payroll in the Empire State Building is about I I'm gonna paraphrase, I don't remember the numbers, but it's about a million dollars or more a day and the average worker output 750 words of text a day in white collar America. So if you translate that into the cost of open AI to generate the same 750 words, it's about 42 bucks, I think yeah, it's like you know it's it's in 42 I mean for all of them, not for one of all of you know 42 bucks or 92, but it wasn't much.   Kevin King: It was less than less than 200 dollars, I think, to generate the same amount of work product one of the things that you talked about there were newsletters and like how AI can automate a lot of newsletters and and I'm a I'm gonna disagree with you a little bit there on where you can actually have. I think at that time you may have changed your tune now I'm not sure. But you're like let AI do all the writing, do everything. You can just put these things on autopilot and I think that's definitely possible, but the quality sucks and for the most part, unless you're just assembling links. But if, but, but. What you said there actually about newsletters got me thinking. It's backed on that same thing we're talking about earlier bringing this all together. Here is where, about going to events. It's like you know what I used to run a newsletter in the late 90s and early 2000s that we that had 250,000 daily subscribers. We crushed it as using that as a lead magnet to sell memberships, to sell physical products, to sell everything. What, if you know? And this Amazon product space, everybody's always trying to build audiences and they're always like go build a Facebook group, go Create a blog post and you, as you know, the most valuable asset in any business as your customer list, your email list, your Custom list and be able to use that when you want, as you please. And you can't do that on social media. You have no control with algorithms on Facebook, you know, have no control over how many people see your LinkedIn post or or anything. But with an email list or a customer base database, you do. I was like, wait a second, what if we took newsletters and did this with physical products and actually to build audiences? So if I'm selling a dog products and I happen to have sustainable dog products, I'm like what if I build an audience? A dog, the dog markets half of America. That's too big. Well, if I niche that down to some people who ends dogs and sustainability, create a newsletter for them. I'm not trying to sell them anything. This is not a promotional email from my company saying, hey, look at our latest product, here's our new things. But it's more of a about the dogs, about dog training, dog tips, food tips, whatever. And then occasionally spreeking on some affiliate links To test things or you maybe even get a sponsorship. So make this thing self-sustaining and when you're ready to launch a product, you have an avid, rabid, loyal fan base to launch that product to as like this is the way to actually build things. So we I started looking into it Devoured everything you you showed about newsletters. You even set up a special tele I think it was telegram Newsletter channel, devoured everything in there. I went out, devoured everything in the newsletter space for three months, like everything is like. I already know this stuff, but I want to re educate myself on the latest tools, the latest strategies, and I just launched one In August, august 14th for the Amazon space. That's that I already have an audience there. Let me figure this out. Let me, like, figure out what are the best tools, the best systems, and then I can spread this to across multiple industries, multiple things, and that's what we're doing now and it's hugely Successful so far. And and AI is a part of that. But I'm not letting AI write it. AI is more of the, the creative side. It's how it it will rewrite something. If I'm trying to think of a headline, I'm like what's a better way to say X, y, z? I'll type in what's a better way, you know, to say we're ten ways that there are funny and catchy, in the tone of Perry Belcher, whatever it may be, to say this you know, give me all these cool ideas and then I mix and match, or sometimes it nails it, or I'll write a. I do a six you, you talked about this and one of your things the six second video, and so the beginning of every one of my newsletters is a six second, basic six second story. It's a personal story About me. It's something about me meeting Michael Jordan, spending a night with him in a sweet and Atlantic City the day before the night before he first retired, and you know it's crazy. Stories are about my divorce or about you know, so you're a naked girl on the balcony. I know it's, it's edgy, crazy story. But then I tie that back into the physical products and I'll use AI sometimes, maybe to help tweak that. Or if we got it some scientific document from Amazon about how the algorithm works, I'll use it to read the document, summarize it and then, you know, rewrite it with a human touch and add personality to it. So that's where using AI in other industries. I think it is brilliant. Most people aren't getting that right now. Most people just think of it as this is a threat to my job, this is a threat to you, this is the terminators coming to kill me and take over the world.   Perry: So what about? Everything's a conspiracy theory.   Kevin King: Yeah, I mean AI. I was just had just had a chat in August, so it's my father's 82nd birthday and I was sitting there for an hour explaining AI to you know, an 82 year old and a 79 year old in their mind was just, they're just was blown. They're like how do you know all this? This is, this is like science fiction movies or something, and like this is what you can do with it. And most people don't understand that. What are your thoughts on on AI right now and how people are misunderstanding or misusing and what are the best opportunities out there?   Perry: Well, circling back to your newsletter thing that the AI sucks for newsletters, it depends on the kind of newsletter you're writing.   Kevin King: That's what I said. If it's a link, newsletter or something, you can do it.   Perry: If it's a, if it's an aggregated or what you call a link newsletter, what I call a curated newsletter, they add as a really good job at writing basically a tweet and then linking to the article, and you do that like eight or nine times and you got a newsletter. But did you see the one?   Kevin King: the hustle, I think it's. They did a study. Like people are saying that. I don't know if you saw this from the hustle, but the hustle actually hired a guy, he went out and he did Let me see if I can fully automate a newsletter 100% AI so they had their programmers do some stuff and they put it out. It was about the nineties. So they would take today. You know, if today is, you know, April 6th, no, august 6th 2023, they would do August 6th 1993. What happened on that day? You know? Jurassic.   Perry: Park, the whole movie.   Kevin King: But the thing is it was repeating itself. The way it was writing was like all it was just you got to have, you got to have ins that.   Perry: Do a final review. I mean you got to have a human still, do a final review. Yeah, we've got a system. So Chad, my partner Chad, built a software system we're about to launch actually it's called Letterman and it we manage 18 newsletters a day through it and we do it with three outsourcers.   Kevin King: And the way that we do it is we hand out the we handpick what we're going to talk about.   Perry: So basically, we have a bunch of API feeds that tell us these are the stories that are trending about this subject today, and then our guys can go in and just hit, click, click, yes, yes, yes, no, yes, yes, no, delay, delay, delay. So maybe for a future issue, and then it's going to pull together those links and drop them into our software and then the software reads the article and then writes a like a tweet, that tells them to go, that compels them to go read this article. The call to action is compelling them to read the article. Right?   Kevin King: So that's SDO, then something really. It's a. Or is it a newsletter? It's a newsletter.   Perry: So this all goes into a newsletter and basically like, for instance, financials, a great example. The capitalists is ours and we want them to be able to get the gist of, like the Wall Street Journal and three thumbs swipes. And even though we're only writing, there might be 10 links in here. Right, we're writing like 140 characters on each link, compelling you to go click the link, and AI is writing that.   Kevin King: Okay.   Perry: And then they're going over and reading the actual article on the original source, right, okay, so so it's expanded.   Kevin King: It's an expanded judge report or something. It's exactly what it is.   Perry: It's not. It's not even kind of like it. It's exactly what it is Now the opposite. That's only really useful if you have a news worthy topic. Yeah. News or financial or something that's not for entertainment, financial entertainment, sports, politics things that change every single day. But if you're in the Amazon space, you got to think about it more like a, a magazine.   Kevin King: That's what I do, yeah.   Perry: So what we'll do there is find a feature article or three features. Three feature articles is even better. So we'll, let's say, for instance, my things on Amazon, and I'm talking about optimizing the perfect Amazon listing, right? I don't know whatever, but I'd go find three, the three best articles I could possibly find on that subject anywhere in the world, feed them into the AI, have them read all three and then write me a new article. And oftentimes the way we keep it interesting, we have characters, ghost writers created that right in the style of whomever right. So, but I mean really detailed. But one of the things that we found, Kevin, that's killing right now that you might find is our email list. I'm on a mission to get my email list to never send a promotion ever.   Kevin King: That's what I'm on to. I'm on to yeah.   Perry: So the way I do it is by sending out content, so like Perry might send out an email. You're doing it every day right now.   Kevin King: I get an email from you every day on copywriting Big, long email right. Yeah, big long. No, I save them. They're valuable. I mean, some of them go into my swap file.   Perry: It's a subtle.   Kevin King: It's a subtle like you're staying top of mind. You're doing it. Dan Kennedy does it right now and there's a couple others. He's doing that with Russell, but I and they're valuable. You can just read that and never do another thing. But it's you're staying top of mind and then you'll put in something OPS, remember the AI summits coming or whatever that stuff works.   Perry: But what's about to happen with those lists and we're doing another list right now is, once you open that thing about headline writing right, I can fire off a straight up promotion to you.   Kevin King: Yeah, you're segmenting based on what I click and what I do open and read Instantly.   Perry: So you're opening reading my article, right? So you just read my article about headlines and then the. Then you close that article down close that email. The next email in your queue is from me going hey, fibs, copywriting course is 50% off today. Great deal, and you're already so pre-framed to that. The open, the open rate on that second email is like 70 to 80%. Yeah, yeah, we're doing that.   Kevin King: We're going to do that in the product space, where we will watch what people click and if they're always looking on the docs and story, we'll start feeding them more docs. And there's a tool out there, there's a what. There's a tool that does this for the AMA right now, that that does newsletters, where it automated it watches everything and automatically get basically creates a personalized feed in a newsletter we want to Instagram.   Perry: We basically want to Instagram the newsletter business. So if you're only opening dots and stuff, then we want to deliver dots and stuff to you. If you're only delivering lip plumper articles, then we want to deliver a lip plumper off offers to you and and make the newsletter more lip related.   Kevin King: If that's your thing you're into in a makeup space, we're talking about it for newsletters, for you know Amazon sellers, but you can do this for physical products. You can do this for any industry and then leverage off of that. You see that they're always by clicking on the docs and ads. Then you start driving them to your print on demand docs and t-shirts, or you start driving them to Amazon to buy docs and bowls or whatever it's there's a guy that sells drones on Amazon.   Perry: You should have a drone newsletter. You know. You absolutely should have a drone newsletter. We say when, when Perry and I are talking about newsletters there's a big misconception in my mind.   Kevin King: Maybe you have a little bit different take on it, but so many people have what they call a newsletter. You go to their website you know the drone maker, sign up for our newsletter and the newsletter is nothing but a promotional email. It's like hey, we just announced two new parts. We just announced this to me. That's not a newsletter. That's a good one. That's not a newsletter.   Perry: That's a good one. You're not going to get deliverability on it either I mean a newsletter provides value.   Kevin King: It's like 95% value, 5% promotional. It's valued, something you want to get it to where people look forward to getting it, not, oh God dang. I just got another freaking email from drones. Or us Delete, delete, delete. They like I got to open this because they may have some cool tactic in there on how to fly my drone, you know, or in heavy winds, or whatever. Whatever it may be. That's where you got to be thinking when you're doing this, and AI is a great tool. And I always remember something you said when just as a quick aside here, it's a quote I often re-quote you on this and credit to you but you always said, when it comes to selling products on Amazon, people don't buy products on Amazon. They buy photos, absolutely, and so can you talk about just for the Amazon people.   Perry: Nobody can buy a picture. Nobody can buy anything on the internet. It's impossible. All you can do is buy a picture or something that's. Or if you're writing copy, you're creating a mental picture of a thing, right? So yeah, I'm a big believer in product photography being a giant piece of what you do and making something that's demonstrable. If you can actually show how it works in a 30 second video clip, I think that's different than anything. You know that works more powerfully than anything, because you've got to, and design I think you're seeing now is becoming more and more important the quality of your design, because we don't have any way to trust companies, right? You don't really have a way. It used to be the old Dan Kennedy world and Dan at the time was right. You know, ugly sells and pretty doesn't, right? The truth is today, pretty outsells ugly, and that's just. We've proved it eight times, eight times over. Pretty outsells ugly, and especially if you're selling a physical good, right? So don't skimp on the amount of money you spend on photography and photo editing and all those things. I was in was in Kevin interesting thing I was in Guangzhou, China, and I went to this illustration company. They do illustrations, you know. Have you been to? You've been to Yiwu before? Yeah, I've been able. Ok, so you know, upstairs in Yiwu, like on the fourth and fifth floor, it's all service companies, web companies, and I found a company up there and they were doing watches so they would take a watch. You can't take a good enough photograph of a watch for that photograph to actually work in a magazine. It's an impossibility. So what they do is they take a picture of the watch and they pull it into an illustration computer and then there's a program just for jewelry that has all of these textures and paint brushes and all that and they actually build the watch on top of the photo. They build an illustration of the watch and if you ever pick up a magazine and really look at, get a magnifying glass and look at the picture of the Rolex on the back right, you can see where there's an illustration piece cut here or there. You don't see any of the photo. They completely overlay it. But sometimes it takes these guys two weeks to set on illustrator and replace every little pixel dot. Everything is a vector and then they send that off and that.   Kevin King: But now AI can do a lot of that.   Perry: Yeah, I don't know how much I would trust it to do that, but yeah, it probably can. It can certainly enhance the photos a lot. You're seeing AI photo enhancement become a really big deal. Have you seen that thing that takes? I mentioned it at AIBotson. I'm trying to think of the name of it now Topaz.   Kevin King: Yeah.   Perry: Topazai. Well, you can take your old video footage and it'll turn it into 4K footage. It looks pretty doggone good. I mean, you take an old piece of footage that you shot 10 years ago and you run it through there and it'll give you a whole face lift and make it really appear to be a 4K footage.   Kevin King: Yeah, as Remini does that for photos, you can have some old photo or even something you downloaded, some stock image you downloaded online. It's kind of low res because they want you to go pay for the high res. Just download the low res, run it through Remini and it'll upscale it. And upscaleio is another one. There's a bunch of them and some of it's like holy cow. This is amazing stuff.   Perry: Another year from now, probably most of the things that we're using services for now will be you know you don't have to. We're making a lot of money right now in the Philippines by our outsource company uses AI to do things for people. So if you wanted an illustration of a product or whatever, you could send it to man. We're going to charge X for that, but we're actually going to use tools that cut our labor time down by 80, 90%. We haven't got it to where we can cut it all the way out yet and we still hire art directors. You know, really, but it allows you to, instead of hiring 30 B minus designers and you know an art director, you use AI and you get three or three or so, three or four really high level art directors and you don't need all the carpenters anymore. Right, and if you've seen the way they're building houses now, with the brick laying machines and all that all the carpenters, all the framers that won't be a profession in another 24 months.   Kevin King: Well, that's the scare I think that general public has when it comes to AI is like, well, it's going to take my job and so I don't want that, but look what happened in the industrial revolution, look what happened when the wheel wasn't been it. People will adapt and if you don't adapt, you're going to get left behind. And I think right now, one of the biggest skills if you're listening to this and you're, you know, in high school or college or you're young and still trying to figure you need to learn how to do prompting Prompting. I think good prompting versus okay prompting can make a world of difference with AI. As this gets more sophisticated, being good at prompting is going to be a major skill set that's high in demand. Would you agree with that?   0:55:51 - Perry: I think so. It's funny though, you know. Now you can go to open AI and say write me a mid-journey prompt. Yeah you know this and use this camera lens and this but you don't want the camera lens.   Kevin King: That's where photographers and artists right now are.   Perry: You kind of don't. You can actually have open AI right the mid-journey prompt for you. It's crazy and a lot of people are doing that and I think that's. I think prompting is going to become easier and easier, but it's still going to require imagination.   Kevin King: You know.   Perry: No, no artificial intelligence engines ever going to be able to replace imagination. You know it's not going to happen. So I think that we're we're we're fine for, you know, a good long while. I don't see it being a problem, but there's good money to be made right now with just arbitrage. You know how it is, kevin. You've been around this business long enough. When, anytime, a market is inefficient, that's when all the money's made, right, and right now you got people who need things done. Nobody wants to work, right? So you know AI is just filling the slot perfectly, so we can offer services. Now that used to be. You know, like. We'll do unlimited video editing for $2,000 a month, right? Well, we're doing 90% of that video editing with AI. If we were doing it by hand, we'd have searched $10,000 a month, right, and the end of the day, the customer doesn't care. The customer's getting the desired product delivered within a timeline. They don't really care if you did it yourself or if a robot did it. And if they do care, well, it's probably not your kind of customer, right? So all the stuff that you guys go through of writing product descriptions and all your SEO, your keyword loading and your product photo enhancement and all the stuff that you do, I'd say within a year, probably. Right now, if you're studious you can do 90% of it?   Kevin King: Yeah, you can, but within a year. I mean, it's been a big thing. I just was in another mastermind with a big Chinese seller. He does $50 million a year or something. He's based in China and sells into the US and he said that AI has been a leveling ground for the Chinese sellers.   Perry: Yeah, of course.   Kevin King: Because now they used to, you'd have all that broken English and stuff on listings or they couldn't understand the culture to write it in the right way. And he said with AI, that advantage is gone for Westerners, so you got to step up your game and now it's in. Still, you have an advantage in branding or innovation or some other areas, but it's leveling the playing field for a lot of people.   Perry: Yeah, we found it. We found with Mid Journey packaging design.   Kevin King: Yeah.   Perry: It's been. Packaging design mockups have been amazing. We've come up with some really great packaging ideas that we wouldn't have come up with and for the most part you can send those over to your factories in China and get a reasonable.   Kevin King: When people are doing that for product. Now they'll come up with a product idea like, hey, I want to make a I don't know a new dog bowl. You'll have the AI create. You know, they'll give it some parameters. It needs to be this, it needs to be slow the dog down from eating or not slip on the floor, whatever Right and have the AI create a hundred different models of it. Just boom, boom, boom. Use 3D illustrations, put that into a tool like PickFu, let people vote on it and then, you know, have the top couple. You know, go to molding and make prototypes and then do some additional testing. You couldn't do that. That's just what you can do. Now is just some of the times, sometimes almost mind boggling.   Perry: And robotics have really taken down molding costs.   Kevin King: Yeah.   Perry: Back when you and I started, you know I want to custom mold for this. Well, it'll be $100,000. Now you know, six grand you know, whatever it lasts, you know, depending on what you're molding, but it's crazy how cheap molding costs have gotten.   Kevin King: So we're almost out of time here. Actually we've gone over, but just real quick before we wrap up. What are? What would you say are three things out there that you're seeing right now that either hot opportunities that people need to be paying attention to, or three big, or maybe even three big mistakes that people are making when it comes to trying to sell physical products to people.  

“Writers without niches are starving artists. Because again, they're just competing in these massive competitions. Writers with niches are category kings.” — Nicolas Cole Nicolas Cole shares the lessons he's learned as one of the internet's most-read writers, including why he's fascinated with reverse engineering written work—from James Patterson novels to Twitter threads—into templates writers can use, why all great writing changes the reader, why his superpower is his ability to endure boring things for longer than others, and so much more. EPISODE GUIDE AND TRANSCRIPT https://www.outlieracademy.com/episode/140 WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5QJhLoabFV1ZZfgVIIWmGqjKzbhe0N7o CHAPTERS (00:00:00) - Introduction (00:07:37) - Service Businesses, Linear vs Infinite Scaling, and Picking a Bag of Problems (00:10:02) - Ship 30 for 30 and Finding Your Niche (00:17:01) - The Origin Story of Category Pirates and Snow Leopard (00:20:13) - Category Creation, Competition, and Being Different vs Better (00:28:48) - Content-Free Content and Blinding Glimpses of the Obvious (00:35:34) - The Content Pyramid: Levels One, Two, and Three (00:49:44) - The Content Pyramid: Level Four (Making Non-Obvious Connections) (00:55:32) - Debunking Common Myths About Writing and Category Creation (01:04:10) - The Difference Between More Views and More Dollars (01:11:37) - What is Category Creation? (01:14:27) - How to Create a Category: Weird Problem + Weird Solution ABOUT THE BOOK Snow Leopard: How Legendary Writers Create A Category Of One by Category Pirates (Nicolas Cole, Christopher Lochhead, and Eddie Yoon) shares why all legendary writers who stand the test of time create a category of one. In decades past, David Ogilvy, Gary Halbert, Leo Burnett, Gary Bencivenga, Al Ries & Jack Trout, and many more master communicators have all written about the psychology behind how messages spread. Snow Leopard builds on their work with dozens of new insights and frameworks, and brings category creation and design into the digital age.

Generally speaking, the listeners of my show – my coaching clients, and the students of the Self-Employed Business Institute – tend to be pretty gentle marketers. They are driven by purpose, heart-centered, and doing business with a soul. However, they may be too passive in their marketing. To improve their marketing, it's important to advocate for themselves more. In today's conversation with Caleb O'Dowd, we discuss the importance of multi-channel marketing and reaching audiences through various platforms. Caleb emphasizes the need to understand our target audience, tap into their sense of urgency, and use multiple touchpoints to break through the noise. He also introduces the concept of the "Mafia offer," which focuses on removing objections and creating an offer no one can refuse. Tune into today's episode to learn the significance of targeted communication, leveraging multiple channels, and crafting compelling offers to provide effective solutions to our audience.   Caleb O'Dowd is a nine-figure marketing and advertising expert, author, speaker, and the founder of Multi Channel Marketing, a company designed to help business owners optimize and scale in a sustainable way using a unique combination of online and offline marketing channels. Over the last 19 years, Caleb has generated over $160,000,000 in sales for the companies he owned and operated. He is the author of the forthcoming book, Relentless: The Ultimate Multi Channel Marketing Funnel.   A high school dropout turned carpenter turned entrepreneur, at the young age of 21, Caleb moved from Ireland to Miami to learn from Gary Halbert, one of the greatest direct response marketers and advertisers of all time, and the risk he took paid off. Over the next decade, Caleb became one of the leading direct marketing advertisers in America. In the online space, Caleb became known for creating some of the most profitable webinars in the history of the Internet, with recent webinars topping over $20,000,000 in sales. Today, Caleb dedicates his time to helping Internet business owners utilize the methods and strategies he teaches to generate improvements in sales, profits and return on ad spend in just a few days. Originally from Ireland, Caleb lives with his family in Miami, Florida.     And be sure to subscribe to The Self-Employed Life in Apple Podcasts or follow us on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts so you don't miss an episode.   Everything you need can all be found at jeffreyshaw.com.   Caleb O'Dowd, thank you so much for being here! Remember, you might be in business FOR yourself but you are not in business BY yourself. Be your best self. Be proud and keep changing the world. Guest Contact – MultiChannelMarketing.com SalesFunnelSuperHacks.com Caleb O'Dowd on LinkedIn (in/caleb-o-dowd-72029b9a) Contact Jeffrey – SelfEmployedNewsletter.com Website Books Watch my TEDx LincolnSquare video and please share!   Valuable complimentary resources to help you – ·       The Self-Employed Business Institute- You know you're really good at what you do. You're talented, you have a skill set. The problem is you're probably in a field where there is no business education. This is common amongst self-employed people! And, there's no business education out there for us! You also know that being self-employed is unique and you need better strategies, coaching, support, and accountability. The Self-Employed Business Institute, a five-month online education is exactly what you need. Check it out! ·       Take The Self-Employed Assessment! Ever feel like you're all over the place? Or frustrated it seems like you have everything you need for your business success but it's somehow not coming together? Take this short quiz to discover the biggest hidden gap that's keeping you from having a thriving Self-Employed Ecosystem. You'll find out what part of your business needs attention and you'll also get a few laser-focused insights to help you start closing that gap. ·       Have Your Website Brand Message Reviewed! Is your website speaking the right LINGO of your ideal customers? Having reviewed hundreds of websites, I can tell you 98% of websites are not. Fill out the simple LINGO Review application and I'll take a look at your website. I'll email you a few suggestions to improve your brand message to attract more of your ideal customers. Fill out the application today and let's get your business speaking the right LINGO! Host Jeffrey Shaw is a Small Business Consultant, Brand Management Consultant, Business Coach for Entrepreneurs, Keynote Speaker, TEDx Speaker and author of LINGO and The Self Employed Life (May 2021). Supporting self-employed business owners with business and personal development strategies they need to create sustainable success.

Are you ready to discover how pivotal relationships and seeking out the masters can propel your life and business to new heights? Welcome to the Million Dollar Relationship podcast. Today, Daniel Linares shares his insights on how pivotal relationships and seeking out the masters have transformed his life and business. Daniel is a certified high-performance coach, speaker, and event professional. With his coaching expertise, he helps individuals unlock their full potential, achieve greater focus, clarity, and productivity. As an accomplished event professional, Daniel earns multiple six-figures annually while traveling the world for business and leisure. His inspiring presence has graced prestigious stages alongside renowned speakers. Let Daniel guide you to become a high performer in all areas of your life. In this podcast episode, Daniel and Kevin discuss the power of relationships and embracing uncertainty. They are joined by special guest Daniel, who shares his entrepreneurial journey from working at Apple to running a DJ business. He diversified his services to include hybrid DJ/band offerings and later focused on assisting schools with graduations during the pandemic. Now, with the return of live events, he is specializing in wedding services. Daniel talks about learning from his family, especially his entrepreneurial grandfather, and receiving valuable advice from his friend Genevieve Bos. They also explore the concept of 'Everything is figureoutable' by Marie Forleo, emphasizing pushing boundaries and overcoming personal limitations. The importance of finding mentors and seeking out masters is discussed, drawing inspiration from the success stories of Joe Polish, Tony Robbins, Russell Brunson, and Gary Halbert.   Tune in, as this conversation highlights how relationships can reveal hidden traits and how taking risks can unlock our full potential!                                                           [00:00 - 15:13] From Entrepreneurial Pursuits to Innovative Pivots Daniel comes from a loving family that supported his entrepreneurial journey and encouraged him to pursue his passions. Daniel's background in performance and entrepreneurship led him to start a DJ business and venture into website building and branding. The pandemic forced Daniel to pivot his business towards producing virtual events, particularly graduations for schools. Daniel's company found success in creating documentary-style and animated videos to help schools with recruitment and showcasing their programs. By asking clients about their challenges and needs, Daniel's company discovered new opportunities and adapted their services accordingly, leading to continued growth.   [15:13 – 32:41] Embracing Curiosity, Seeking Mentors, and Embracing Uncertainty Daniel actively seeks out mentors and masters in his field to accelerate his learning and gain insights from those who have achieved what he aspires to. The connections and relationships Daniel has built through seeking out mentors have played a significant role in his personal and professional growth. Daniel embraces uncertainty and discomfort as opportunities for growth and believes that stepping out of his comfort zone leads to incredible outcomes in business. Daniel emphasizes the importance of challenging fabricated stories in our minds that hold us back from taking action. Daniel encourages taking risks and pushing beyond one's comfort zone, as it can lead to unexpected positive outcomes.     [32:41 – 34:30] Closing Statements ·       Follow Daniel on LinkedIn and Facebook. Also, be sure to check his webpage at https://www.dleeventgroup.com   Thanks for tuning in!    If you liked my show, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, and subscribe!    Find me on the following streaming platforms: Apple Spotify Google Podcasts IHeart Radio Stitcher     Tweetable Quotes   “The quality of the growth potential of what you could achieve in your life is directly in proportionate to the amount of uncertainty that you can tolerate on a daily basis.” – Daniel Linares

Caleb O'Dowd is a nine-figure marketing and advertising expert, author, award-winning speaker, and the founder of Multi Channel Marketing, a company designed to help business owners optimize and scale through online and offline marketing channels.A high school dropout turned carpenter turned entrepreneur, at the young age of 21, Caleb moved from Ireland to Miami to learn from Gary Halbert, one of the greatest direct response marketers and advertisers of all time, and the risk he took paid off.Over the last 19 years, Caleb has generated over $160 Million in sales for the companies he owned and operated, with his latest webinars topping 20 Million in sales. He is the author of the forthcoming book, Relentless: The Ultimate Multi Channel Marketing Funnelwww.multichannelmarketing.com   Some of the topics we cover in our conversation in this EpisodeIs copywriting dead? 1:14Mentorship from a legend. 4:49The power of building an audience. 13:48How to attract new customers to your gym? 20:04Niche down to the insane vs. going abroad. 27:07Understanding your top competitors 33:31The importance of organizing your database. 37:17Take advantage of the opportunities. 43:08Connect with us here: 

He says, how do you inspire to create new stuff and trainings for your clients without modeling the new guy, modeling the new guy? Dude, I don't care what the new guys are doing. I care about what I learned from that guy, Albert Lasker. And from that other guy, David Ogilvy. And from that guy, Claude Hopkins. And from that guy, Gary Halbert. And Dan Kennedy...and hard won experience.

Welcome to the I am Charles Schwartz Show! This podcast is an uncommon guide to getting you what you want, when you want it. From the guy who has been coaching entrepreneurs on how to retire for over a decade. This podcast aims at making you UNSTOPPABLE. Awaken the inner beast within you! Quash your limiting beliefs and bring out the best version of YOU. --- Today, we have CALEB O'DOWD! Get to know more about him: Caleb O'Dowd is a nine-figure marketing and advertising expert, author, award-winning speaker, and the founder of Multi Channel Marketing, a company designed to help business owners optimize and scale through online and offline marketing channels. A high school dropout turned entrepreneur, over the last 19 years, Caleb has generated over $160 Million in sales for the companies he owned and operated, with his latest webinars topping 20 Million in sales. He is the author of the forthcoming book, Relentless: The Ultimate Multi Channel Marketing Funnel. www.multichannelmarketing.com Caleb's background story: Caleb O'Dowd is a nine-figure marketing and advertising expert, author, speaker, and the founder of Multi Channel Marketing, a company designed to help business owners optimize and scale in a sustainable way using a unique combination of online and offline marketing channels. Over the last 19 years, Caleb has generated over $160,000,000 in sales for the companies he owned and operated. He is the author of the forthcoming book, Relentless: The Ultimate Multi Channel Marketing Funnel. A high school dropout turned carpenter turned entrepreneur, at the young age of 21, Caleb moved from Ireland to Miami to learn from Gary Halbert, one of the greatest direct response marketers and advertisers of all time, and the risk he took paid off.  Over the next decade, Caleb became one of the leading direct marketing advertisers in America. He built a successful health supplement business that generated 8 figures per year and then ran an information publishing business with his partners that generated between $3,000,000 and $5,000,000 a month.  In the online space, Caleb became known for creating some of the most profitable webinars in the history of the Internet, with recent webinars topping over $20,000,000 in sales. Caleb is a master of deciphering what makes people buy. The applied psychology he employs in his marketing helped him add millions of dollars worth of extra sales to the businesses of dozens of clients, many of whom are among the top Internet marketers in the industry right now. An award-winning speaker, Caleb gave keynote speeches at prestigious business conferences such as WebinarCon in Austin, TX, and the High Status Summit in Santa Anna, CA.  Today, Caleb dedicates his time to helping Internet business owners utilize the methods and strategies he teaches to generate improvements in sales, profits and return on ad spend in just a few days. Originally from Ireland, Caleb lives with his family in Miami, Florida. When he's not working, or spending time with his wife and son, Caleb can be found indulging in his other two passions in life: building custom motorcycles and investing in luxury watches.  To learn more about Caleb, go to: www.multichannelmarketing.com.

En días recientes he estado trabajando fuerte en mi canal de YouTube de Puerto Rico By GPS. Como sabes, Puerto Rico By GPS es un blog de turismo que arranqué en el 2012 y que tiene la misión de atraer turistas extranjeros a Puerto Rico. Pero no cualquier tipo de turista. Puerto Rico By GPS está diseñado para atraer a turistas como yo, que viajen por su cuenta, sin rumbo predeterminado y que hablen inglés. Si te causa curiosidad visítalo. ¿Y qué es eso de la curiosidad? Bueno, pues de acuerdo a los expertos en YouTube es el primer requisito para que un video sea exitoso. Pero esto no es algo exclusivo de YouTube. Si lo piensas por un momento vas a encontrar que sin curiosidad no existe la atención, y sin atención no existe la comunicación. ¿Y sabes qué? Eso se aplica en cualquier medio de comunicación. Hoy comienzo una serie en Hablando de Tecnología que he titulado “Diez de Diez” en la que voy a discutir diez características sobre distintos temas de tecnología. Y qué mejor tema para iniciarla que el de la curiosidad. Sin curiosidad no estarías escuchando este episodio. Sin curiosidad no te hubieras allegado a este podcast inicialmente. Vamos, sin curiosidad no hubieras aprendido nada en la vida. Hasta me atrevería a afirmar que sin curiosidad no existiría la comunicación. El modelo de la comunicación moderno establece al emisor, el canal, el receptor y la retroalimentación como las partes fundamentales del proceso y al ruido como todo aquello que lo impide. Pero, se me ocurre que este modelo es uno irreal porque pinta al receptor en un rol un tanto pasivo, cuya única función dentro del proceso es recibir lo que el emisor envíe. ¿Pero que sucede si al receptor no le intriga lo que tenga que decir el emisor? La curiosidad es lo que complementa el mensaje para que exista la verdadera comunicación. Gary Halbert, el gurú norteamericano del mercadeo directo, lo decía mejor que nadie cuando afirmaba que “lo único necesario para ser exitoso en las ventas es tener a una muchedumbre hambrienta”. Dicho eso, resulta obvio que el precursor necesario para que exista la comunicación es la curiosidad.   Volviendo al caso de YouTube, la curiosidad se logra mediante la combinación de la estampilla y el titular. Piénsalo. No importa lo bien realizado que esté tu video, no va a valer de nada si la gente no le da click. Lo mismo sucede con tu podcast, con tu blog y en ciertos aspectos hasta con tus entradas en las redes sociales. Fíjate bien que dije “en ciertos aspectos” ya que en las redes sociales media un algoritmo que controla la cantidad de gente que ve lo que colocas a base de criterios económicos. Si no pagas nadie va a ver lo que coloques independientemente de la posible curiosidad que sea capaz de generar. Por eso decidí comenzar esta serie con el tema de la curiosidad, porque sin ella todo lo demás se viene abajo. Enlaces: Visita la página de Puerto Rico By GPS Visita el canal de YouTube de Puerto Rico By GPS OTROS EPISODIOS QUE TE PUEDEN INTERESAR: 11 Mitos Tecnológicos Que Suenan Creíbles 16 Mentiras Que Te Dijeron Durante La Infancia 7 Mitos Sobre La Producción de Video 7 Mitos Sobre El Empleo De Personas De La Tercera Edad 13 Realidades Sobre La Educación Universitaria [2022] 11 Mitos Sobre El Agua 7 Mitos y Realidades Sobre YouTube 4 Palabras Que El Público Odia ©2023, Orlando Mergal, MA _________________ El autor es Experto En Comunicación Corporativa (Lic. R-500), Autor de más de media docena de Publicaciones de Autoayuda y Productor de Contenido Digital Inf. 787-306-1590 • 787-750-0000 Divulgación de Relación Material: Algunos de los enlaces en esta entrada son “enlaces de afiliados”. Eso significa que si le das click al enlace, y compras algo, yo voy a recibir una comisión de afiliado. No obstante, tú vas a pagar exactamente lo mismo que pagarías al visitar al comerciante directamente y de manera independiente.  Además, yo sólo recomiendo productos o servicios que utilizo...

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We've got a very special episode today in our Old Masters series—featuring some wisdom from David Ogilvy. He was legendary in advertising during the Mad Men days. Kenneth Roman wrote a book about Ogilvy called “The King of Madison Avenue.” I believe his book “Ogilvy on Advertising” was the only book on the subject to reach widespread bestseller status, far outside the reaches of the industry. Over 100,000 copies sold. For a business book, that's like over 1 million sold for a novel or general-interest book. Ogilvy was more of a team leader and team builder than a solo operator. More like a Joe Schriefer or a James Patterson—Patterson was an executive for J. Walter Thompson before he became a best-selling novelist—Ogilvy was more like those guys than like a Gene Schwartz or a Gary Halbert. But don't get me wrong. Ogilvy was also a terrific copywriter. He started out in direct response and understood the principles of that kind of copywriting inside out. I found something the other day, paging through Ogilvy's autobiography, that's a perfect fit for this podcast. Ogilvy had 11 rules for copywriting. Four of them are more focused on big ad agencies, but seven of them are great for us, and that's what we'll cover today. So what talked about today comes from is “David Ogilvy: An Autobiography.” This guy had quite an adventurous life, and after he retired he moved to live in a chateau in France. Here on the cover of the book you can see him staring menacingly at you, smoking a cigar. There are swans in the background. Ogilvy had this thing about trumpeter swans, which have the largest wingspan of any swan known to man. I don't know if those are trumpeter swans on the cover, but there's a really good chance they are. Ogilvy was an eccentric man with wide-ranging interests and an adventurous spirit. But when it came to copy, he was straightforward, and serious. And he was focused on getting results, even when he was writing consumer advertising with no response mechanisms. The rules we covered today come from his years of hard work, both writing copy himself and leading other copywriters. We talked about Ogilvy's stance on studying advertising throughout your career, how much difference in response you can get when you improve the copy in an ad, whether a Big Idea matters or not, and a lot more. A link to get the book “David Ogilvy, An Autobiography”: https://www.amazon.com/David-Ogilvy-Autobiography-Trailblazers/dp/0471180025 Download.

A good upsell is an easy way to make a lot more money from the same customers, same ad spend, same traffic…You can generate a lot more sales and revenue without spending another dollar on advertising or traffic…In fact, a good upsell — vs. no upsell or a bad one — can be the difference between a profitable funnel and one that stinks.So — how do you write a good upsell?Well, there's an easy upsell copywriting formula that actually comes from BEFORE the internet…That I know dates back to Gary Halbert and Dan Kennedy selling by direct mail (and probably way before) and I've seen recently from Justin Goff, and that's a variation on what I've frequently used myself.So yes, it works splendidly online, but can also work offline in many contexts, too.I share the entire formula in today's quick episode…Upsell Copywriting Formula [from Dan Kennedy, Gary Halbert, Justin Goff, Roy Furr]Yours for bigger breakthroughs,Roy Furr⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Episode Links ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⏩ High-Velocity Copywriting Course

If I had to start my entire business over from scratch—and I only had 30 days to do it—how would I do it?  Many financial advisors ask me a question along these lines. They overcomplicate their marketing system, until it overwhelms them and they give up on it completely.  That ends today.  In this episode, I'm revealing the exact steps I would follow to build a complete marketing system—that results in new clients paying real money—in 30 days.  Best part? You'll be able to do the same once you realize how simple it is.  Listen now.  Show highlights include: The crucial (and overlooked) first step for creating a marketing strategy that actually results in new business (1:05)  Legendary marketer Gary Halbert's “starving crowd” secret for becoming the #1 financial advisor in your market (1:30)  Why “swiping” from other financial advisors will leave you broke (and who to mimic instead to surge you with new clients) (3:19)  The “Today and Tomorrow” technique that leaves your pipeline full of hungry and eager prospects (without sacrificing new client opportunities) (4:50)  The dirt-simple 2-step direct mail process that can land you a new client by next week (12:08)  Need help getting more clients as a financial advisor? I created a free, 47-minute video outlining the steps to my “CLIENT Method,” which helps financial advisors land more clients. Watch the video before I take it down here: https://www.theadvisorcoach.com/theclientmethod.html  If you're looking for a way to set more appointments with qualified prospects, sign up for James' brand new webinar about how financial advisors can get more clients with email marketing.  Go to https://TheAdvisorCoach.com/webinar to register today.  Go to https://TheAdvisorCoach.com/Coaching and pick up your free 90 minute download called “5 Keys to Success for Financial Advisors” when you join The James Pollard Inner Circle. Want to transform your website into a client-getting machine? Go to https://www.theadvisorcoach.com/website to get The Client-Getting Website Guide.  Want a masterclass training in running effective Facebook Ads? Head to https://TheAdvisorCoach.com/ads-training.  Discover how to get even better at marketing yourself with these resources: https://www.theadvisorcoach.com/financial-advisor-sales-training.html https://www.theadvisorcoach.com/financial-advisor-coaching.html https://www.theadvisorcoach.com/4-linkedin-tips-for-financial-advisors.html

Welcome once again to The Million Dollar Relationships podcast. Today we are being joined by Mark Ingles! Mark began his career as a computer programmer and eventually became a network admin responsible for managing the Internet for a 65,000-user network. After this, he transitioned into entrepreneurship and started his own business selling shopping carts to small businesses. Later, he shifted into selling printing to small businesses and eventually ventured into advertising online using Google Adwords to sell offline marketing. Throughout his career, Mark has owned companies with as many as 40 employees, all of which were bootstrapped with no outside investment or debt. In 2016, he achieved a significant milestone by taking one of his single products from 0 to $20 million/year in revenue.   In this episode, we got to learn about the inspirational story of Mark Ingles, a computer programmer-turned-entrepreneur who has been running his own business for 21 years. In his journey to success, he found an invaluable mentor in Perry Marshall, one of the world's leading experts on Google AdWords and marketing. With Perry's help, Mark was able to double his business and learn from other big names like Gary Halbert and Dan Kennedy. We'll hear from Mark himself as he shares how he went from not knowing much about business to making custom websites, printing, and brokering deals to produce goods. He also talks about how he met quality entrepreneurs and met his wife through a mastermind group due to his relationship with Perry.   This episode is sure to inspire you as we learn how one person can have an immense impact on someone else's life simply by connecting them to other people.   [00:00 - 05:48] Journey of Entrepreneurship ·       Mark has been an entrepreneur for 21 years ·       He is a computer programmer and marketer with the ability to merge tech and marketing together ·       He currently runs a lead generation company in the Medicare space ·       His wife owns a nonprofit that specializes in helping seniors stay independent and healthy longer.   [05:48 - 18:46] Honoring the Man that Changed Mark's Life and Business ·       Accidentally got into business making custom websites for people during the dot bomb time ·       Clicking on a Google ad changed the Mark's life ·       The ad was about Perry Marshall's Definitive Guide to Google AdWords. Mark bought the guide and doubled his business' income. ·       Learned about Claude Hopkins Scientific Advertising and referrals ·       Mark developed a relationship with Perry Marshall over the years and followed his advice. ·       Introduced to Gary Halbert, Dan Kennedy, and other big names in marketing   [18:46 - 25:07] The Impact of Perry Marshall Kevin first met Perry at a Dan Kennedy seminar in 1999. ·       Kevin also used the guide to build his first online business. Perry and Kevin both adopted children and Kevin sought advice from Perry on the subject. Perry helped connect entrepreneurs, including Kevin and Brian Kurtz. ·       Perry facilitated introductions between entrepreneurs, including Brian Kurtz. As happened with Mark, Kevin was inspired by Perry to start a business facilitating introductions.    [25:07 - 27:50] Closing Statements ·       Follow Mark on Facebook and  LinkedIn.   Thanks for tuning in!    If you liked my show, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, and subscribe!    Find me on the following streaming platforms: Apple Spotify Google Podcasts IHeart Radio Stitcher     Tweetable Quotes   "Two heads are better than one, but three heads with different strengths and weaknesses can create something extraordinary. As an entrepreneur, I've learned that one plus one plus one can equal 17 if you work with the right people." – Mark Ingles.  

Welcome once again to The Million Dollar Relationships podcast. Today we are going to learn about the great Kevin Donahue! Kevin is an expert in generating revenue streams for entrepreneurs and executives. His company offers a strategic approach that combines human psychology, cultural patterns, engagement strategies, and expert positioning to help clients increase their pricing by 10-100x. With over 3 decades of experience, they have worked with large organizations and deals worth millions of dollars. They focus on understanding the client's offerings and uncovering their prospects' needs to close more deals. Their experience covers enterprise software sales, consulting, training, coaching, retail stores, and business opportunities.   In this episode of MDR, hear about Kevin's journey from working in the federal government and doing enterprise sales to living in Costa Rica and teaching surf lessons. Learn how he ended up becoming a client of the Genius Network and launching his own skincare business. Find out what he learned through his mentor Mark Schneider, who invented products such as the Cool Dana, sold products for celebrities on QVC, represented Joe Sugarman and Gary Halbert in the direct response marketing world, and invested heavily in precious metals. Finally, hear Kevin's take on taking risks, protecting your intellectual property, being authentic and open-book with people, leaving an impact in someone's life, having the courage to let go of what you know and try something new, writing your own script in life, and more.   Tune in now to learn from Kevin's incredible journey!   [00:00 - 11:57] Kevin Donahue's Incredible Journey Kevin Donahue is a former CEO, founder, and entrepreneur who considers himself a professional salesman. Kevin started his career in sales and advising, selling software technologies to the US government. Kevin's clients included the White House National Security Council, Homeland Security, the CIA, and more. Kevin was bored and in debt, despite having a successful career and business. He decided to move to Costa Rica to live out five of his life goals: surfing, getting closer to his faith, doing mission work in an impoverished nation, learning Spanish fluently, and immigrating to a foreign country.   [11:57 - 18:06] Authenticity and Gratitude: A Mindset that Brings Opportunities Kevin stressed the importance of authenticity and being present in all aspects of life, whether it's in business or personal relationships. Authenticity and openness are key elements in creating a positive impact and making someone feel great, which can make all the difference in the world. By spreading gratitude, love, and good feelings, and making a positive impact, one's journey through life will be better and one can leave a lasting legacy. Thin Air was a place where people came together to create new connections and build relationships, and it was a unique environment where anything could happen. Kevin now runs a company called Executive Sales Source, which involves sales consultations in various fields, from information products to celebrities, product launches, and technology. He has started about 20 businesses over the years, some of which were successful and others that were not, but he has learned from each experience and grown as a result.   [18:06 - 27:45] The Mentor Who Changed the Course of Kevin's Life and Business Kevin talks about Mark Schneider, a successful entrepreneur who had a profound impact on life and business Mark taught Kevin that taking risks is about the journey and the lessons you learn along the way. Mark taught Kevin the importance of demonstrating the value of his product and went out to show people how it worked. Despite his wealth, he didn't flaunt it or let it define him. Despite not seeking fame, Mark was still incredibly influential and well-respected.    [27:45 - 30:16] Closing Statements Follow Kevin on LinkedIn or Instagram and check out his website at https://www.executivesalessource.com/ Final words   Thanks for tuning in!    If you liked my show, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, and subscribe!    Find me on the following streaming platforms: Apple Spotify Google Podcasts IHeart Radio Stitcher     Tweetable Quotes   "Have the courage to let go of what you know and try something new and see if you can live a thousand lifetimes in one.” – Kevin Donahue    

Posting original LinkedIn content is an effective way to build your brand, create top-of-mind awareness and become the go-to recruiter in your niche.   Yet according to LinkedIn, only 1% of active users create content on the platform. Why aren't more recruitment firm owners seizing this opportunity? Perhaps they're suffering from “imposter syndrome” or maybe they just don't know where to start.    In the 6th installment of our Recruitment Mistakes series, we explain the benefits of posting original content on Linkedin consistently. We want to get you motivated to become a content creator! You'll also hear some ideas on what to post and how to get started.   Episode Outline and Highlights   [02:10] Why we advocate posting original content on LinkedIn.  [04:49] What do we mean by original content? [07:04] Top three reasons that people may hold back from posting, and why you should still create original posts. [15:02] Original versus curated content. [16:00] What should be the content of your posts? [21:00] How often should you post LinkedIn content? [22:46] Tips and tricks on how to create posts. [27:38] Preview of our next episode in this series.   Three Reasons Why You Should Post Original Content   What do we mean by original content? Well a lot of the stuff you see in your news feed is curated content (sharing or reposting) instead of original content. We want you to be a content creator, not a content distributor!   Why should it matter if the content is original or curated? Aside from the fact that LinkedIn's algorithm will enable you to get more organic engagement via original content, here are three reasons:   You will position yourself as an authority in your own niche. You become visible to your network's newsfeed. People will understand your market knowledge and personality which will build trust. What Might Hold You Back and Why You Should Post Anyway   Here are some of the reasons that might hold you back from starting or keeping up posting original content regularly, and why the reason can be superficial and must be overcome:   A post won't do well and it might be a flop - There is no such thing! Even if your posts average 500-1000 views that's fantastic. That means 1000 people have been exposed to your brand and your ideas. If you post 5 times per week, that's 5000 impressions per week ... 260,000 in a year. Think of the impact that could have on the success of your business.   Feeling Uncomfortable - If you feel that maybe people might not like what you post, or maybe you will get trolled, this should not hold you back from posting original content. I used to feel that way and even felt anxiety when I first starting on posting years ago. But nothing bad ever happened, only tons of good things. People responded and the posts resonated. It took quite a while for the anxiety to die away, but now I don't think twice.   Impostor Syndrome - Do you feel that you do not know what to say that can be worthy to share out there? Keep in mind that as a successful recruitment business owner, you are doing a disservice to your market if you are now sharing your expertise on the market. You are qualified to help people in your niche, and you can bring value by sharing your own insights and knowledge.   What and When to Publish?   There are different formats when posting, for example a poll, text only, or image. In terms of getting started, a good example is presenting ideas or insights based on your own experience and the conversations you're already having every day in your market.   Although entertainment posts such as GIFs or memes tend to perform well, just relying on entertainment won't cut it if you are wanting to be seen as an expert in your space.   It's best to share a mixture of personal and professional content. Let's focus on Authority Content - as this should be at least 50% of the content you share. What are the topics you want to be known as an expert in?    A brilliant copywriter in history, Gary Halbert, once said: "Find out what your audience is hungry for and then serve it to them hot."    How often should you be posting? Whatever will be sustainable for you.  We recommend posting at least 3-4 times per week. We compare this to going to the gym.  It's easy to be enthusiastic at the start but will you stay consistent 6-12 months from now?  Set a pace that you can maintain rather than go all in for a few weeks only to fizzle out.   This is an investment that will pay compound interest over time. You might not see results overnight, but you will indeed see those results in the long run.   Our Sponsors   This podcast is proudly sponsored by i-intro and Recruitment Entrepreneur.   i-intro® is an end-to-end retained recruitment platform. Their technology and methodology allow recruiters to differentiate themselves from the competition, win more retained business, bigger fees, and increase their billings. Their software combined with world-class training enables you to transition from transactional, contingency recruiter to consultative, retained recruiter. Instead of being perceived as a “me too” vendor, you'll be positioned as a “me only” solutions provider. Be sure to mention Mark Whitby or The Resilient Recruiter. Book your free, no-obligation consultation here: www.recruitmentcoach.com/retained Recruitment Entrepreneur is the world's leading Private Equity firm specializing in the international recruitment industry. If you've dreamed of starting, scaling, and selling your recruitment business, this is your chance. James Caan and his team at Recruitment Entrepreneur are actively seeking ambitious recruiters in who they can invest. They provide everything you need to grow a successful recruitment business including funding, financial expertise, coaching and mentoring, operational strategy, back-office support, marketing, and talent attraction solutions. Be sure to mention Mark Whitby or The Resilient Recruiter. Start a conversation here: https://www.recruitmentcoach.com/vc   People and Resources Mentioned   The Top 25 LinkedIn Posts - Ebook Link Leanne on LinkedIn   Connect with Mark Whitby Get your FREE 30-minute strategy call Mark on LinkedIn Mark on Twitter: @MarkWhitby Mark on Facebook Mark on Instagram: @RecruitmentCoach   Subscribe to The Resilient Recruiter

喜剧演员加里·刘易斯·古尔曼（Gary Lewis Gulman）在推特上分享写笑话的小贴士，我挑选了让我激动的25条。它们分别关于：拖延症｜爆破音｜不断地写｜爱默生｜失败｜新词汇｜语气词｜关注对的事｜讲述对象｜亲近的关系｜运气｜限制产生创造力｜越具体越有趣｜对话感｜年龄｜主题研究｜珍惜表演｜紧张｜耐心｜搞砸｜接受崇拜｜脆弱｜抑郁｜守破离｜功课弱点 链接 Mimetic Desire | Mimetic Theory Meditation in an Art Studio Gary Gulman 的推文集 Gary Gulman 的推特 手把手教你玩脱口秀 不患无位，患所以立 blog 对着一个人 快乐三十分 061 世界第一文案大师 Gary Halbert 教会我的事 爱默生的《论自助》 赞助 本期播客由「有知有行」赞助。 你知道吗，我花大量时间研究投资大师，然后发现了一个共同点，他们都建议普通人投资基金，而非个股。可是选基金也是难事啊！如果你想迈出第一步，我推荐看看「有知有行」上面的长钱账户。为什么呢？长钱账户帮你合理配置不同的基金，并适时调整比例。好处一，降低风险。好处二，专业人士帮你选基。用我自己的话说，长钱账户是“基金的基金”

On this episode, we discuss some of the most successful characters in the history of advertising. Plus Sean will share a dollar bill letter he received this week that is a swipe of Gary Halbert’s famous $1.00 letter. 

Nicolas Cole shares the lessons he's learned as one of the internet's most-read writers, including why he's fascinated with reverse engineering written work—from James Patterson novels to Twitter threads—into templates writers can use, why all great writing changes the reader, why his superpower is his ability to endure boring things for longer than others, and so much more. “Writers without niches are starving artists. Because again, they're just competing in these massive competitions. Writers with niches are category kings.” — Nicolas Cole EPISODE GUIDE (LINKS, QUOTES, NOTES, AND BOOKS MENTIONED) https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/snow-leopard-nicolas-cole  FULL TEXT TRANSCRIPT https://www.danielscrivner.com/notes/snow-leopard-nicolas-cole-transcript   CHAPTERS (00:00:00) - Introduction (00:07:37) - Service Businesses, Linear vs Infinite Scaling, and Picking a Bag of Problems (00:10:02) - Ship 30 for 30 and Finding Your Niche (00:17:01) - The Origin Story of Category Pirates and Snow Leopard (00:20:13) - Category Creation, Competition, and Being Different vs Better (00:28:48) - Content-Free Content and Blinding Glimpses of the Obvious (00:35:34) - The Content Pyramid: Levels One, Two, and Three (00:49:44) - The Content Pyramid: Level Four (Making Non-Obvious Connections) (00:55:32) - Debunking Common Myths About Writing and Category Creation (01:04:10) - The Difference Between More Views and More Dollars (01:11:37) - What is Category Creation? (01:14:27) - How to Create a Category: Weird Problem + Weird Solution ABOUT THE BOOK Snow Leopard: How Legendary Writers Create A Category Of One by Category Pirates (Nicolas Cole, Christopher Lochhead, and Eddie Yoon) shares why all legendary writers who stand the test of time create a category of one. In decades past, David Ogilvy, Gary Halbert, Leo Burnett, Gary Bencivenga, Al Ries & Jack Trout, and many more master communicators have all written about the psychology behind how messages spread. Snow Leopard builds on their work with dozens of new insights and frameworks, and brings category creation and design into the digital age.

#793: On-Screen Pop-Ups: Annoying, But Are They Effective? Episode 3 Using a pop-up to encourage visitors to connect to your live chat is smart, but only on contact pages. The call-to-action (CTA) is a phrase that inspires visitors to take your desired action. It's easy to create a CTA, but you need something that will inspire your visitors. The key is to create the most enticing, irresistible offer you can craft. Harlan Kilstein is one of the only A-list copywriters who includes NLP in their copy. John Carlton studied under Gary Halbert for many years. David Deutsch is a great copywriting resource for just about everyone, but his work will be especially helpful to those in the supplement industry. Popup Smart is an online pop-up builder that has both free and paid plans. You can use Popup Smart on any website and it doesn't require any coding skills. If you haven't signed up for a HubSpot account, you may want to check it out. Split-testing is a long-term, ongoing strategy that will help you discover what your visitors respond to best. S.E.O dot com has extensive experience helping clients grow their email marketing list. More info about on-screen pop-ups: annoying, but are they effective?:    https://seo.co/pop-ups/   Connect with us:  SEO // PPC // DEV // WEBSITE DESIGN // RECRUITERS

Today, we talk with Harlan about his life as a copywriter from the early days until now. The marketing world has changed through the years, and we talk about our thoughts and experiences on this matter. Learn about Harlan's rise to success and what makes good copywriters stand out from the rest. Harlan is a Brooklyn-born entrepreneur, author, and lifestyle coach. He is a highly skilled marketer and copywriter, learning from the likes of Dan Kennedy and Gary Halbert. With his passion for marketing and his knowledge of hypnosis and Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), he achieved great success in his career.

On this week's episode, Tim Stoddart (@timstodz) and Ethan Brooks (@damn_ethan) talk through the automations that Tim uses to allow his agency to run smoothly, remotely, and without a ton of his micromanagement. These ideas will transfer to other types of service businesses too, so check it out! Cool Stuff Mentioned In The Show Check out our podcast website Tim's article on how he automated his business Archive of the Boron letters + Gary Halbert's other letters Steven Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People Agency Clarity For more great insights, check out… Copyblogger Academy where you'll learn the 3 skills you need to become an effective content entrepreneur in today's world. Trends where you'll find cutting-edge research on emerging business trends, plus hands-on advice on how to capitalize on them.… Use code BOATDRINKS for the best discount available. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/copyblogger-podcast/message

About 30 years ago, I saw my first Gary Halbert newsletter. It was printed, on paper. I was blown away. I didn't know what I was reading. But I couldn't stop reading it. In fact, I must have read it 20 times. I had been writing professionally myself for almost 20 years. But I knew I didn't know how to write like Gary was writing. And for a good long while, I couldn't figure out what he was doing. Now, I know. What Gary did, the way he wrote, was unique and is still beyond my powers of description today. I wouldn't ever pretend that I could write the way he could – I can't. Who can? But I did figure out a couple of key things, that launched my copywriting career and led to millions of dollars in sales. The first thing was that he knew how to sell with the written word. Which is something we've talked about a lot on this podcast. The second thing was that he wrote in a totally conversational way, at the same time he was selling. And that's something we've never really dug into before today on this podcast. But today we do. Look – It should be the easiest thing in the world, but for most copywriters, it's one of the hardest things to do. I'm talking about writing like you talk. Or, to use the technical term, “conversational copywriting.” But face it. The more your copy comes across like you talking to your prospect, the less likely your prospects are going to think to themselves, “Oh, this is an ad” — and put up their defenses. The worst thing about this is, as far as I can tell, no one else has thought that this is a skill that can be taught. Most copywriters and copy chiefs grudgingly admit that the better copywriters can do this and the lesser copywriters can't, but that's about as far as they go. I think different. I think most people can learn this, but it's not a matter of wishing it and having it so. It's a skill. It doesn't come naturally and it doesn't just sort of seep into your writing by itself over time. I think it's a skill you can learn, piece by piece. And I've broken it down into pieces and steps to learn it. Today, we'll look at • Why it's so hard • Why it's so important to write in a conversational way • What gets in the way for most people • And four comprehensive action steps you can take to get better at it.Download.

回答了两个读者的提问，分别是我如何收集想法，制作自己的 newsletter，以及我对于一般人是否需要一个个人网站的看法。分享了最后一个来自 Gary Halbert 的想法。 链接 My First Million 播客关于 copy writing 的一期 Sam Parr 创立并卖掉的 The Hustle newsletter 为什么你需要一个个人网站 我关于是否需要个人网站的推文 赞助 本期播客由「有知有行」app 赞助。 投资是除健康之外，每个人最应该关注的话题。我写过一些关于投资的文章，但都不够专业。如果你想系统地学习投资知识，我推荐「有知有行」app。它帮你学习投资知识，且不收费，不推荐股票，只从基本知识出发，让你学会投资的底层逻辑。你可以从投资第一课开始学习。 创始人孟岩是一位令我尊敬的财富知识分享者，我推荐他最近的公众号文章《钱、工作、投资》，和播客《无人知晓》关于品牌定位的最新单集。 happy xiao happy 的 blog happy 的 Twitter happy 的 newsletter happy 的 YouTube

Gary Halbert 是史上最好的广告文案大师，我从他的书里和 YouTube sh视频l里获得了价值连城的想法，说给你听。 本期还分享了另外一个 Gary 的故事，关于 GaryVee 的 NFT 项目 VeeFriends，我学到了什么。 链接 The Boron Letters The Boron Letters 我的阅读摘要 我关于图书馆的 blog 我录的关于 GaryVee 的播客 Veefriends.com 我模仿 Gary Halbert 写的 blog 赞助 本期播客由「有知有行」app 赞助。 投资是除健康之外，每个人最应该关注的话题。我写过一些关于投资的文章，但都不够专业。如果你想系统地学习投资知识，我推荐「有知有行」app。它帮你学习投资知识，且不收费，不推荐股票，只从基本知识出发，让你学会投资的底层逻辑。你可以从投资第一课开始学习。 创始人孟岩是一位令我尊敬的财富知识分享者，我推荐他最近的公众号文章《钱、工作、投资》，和播客《无人知晓》关于品牌定位的最新单集。 happy xiao happy 的 blog happy 的 Twitter happy 的 newsletter happy 的 YouTube

Today's guest had two careers. The first spanned 34 years as a force behind Boardroom Inc., an iconic publisher, and direct marketer. During that time, he was mentored by, and worked with, a who's who of marketing legends (who he owes everything to). And more specifically, he worked side-by-side with the most prolific copywriters who have ever lived. His second career, which he is five years into as the Founder of Titans Marketing, is a direct marketing educational and coaching company where he has also continued working with the best-of-the-best. He is the author of two books himself. His most recent book is Overdeliver: Build a Business for a Lifetime Playing the Long Game in Direct Response Marketing. It is his opus (but not a memoir). His first book, The Advertising Solution, profiles six legends of advertising and copywriting including Gene Schwartz and Gary Halbert. As a business-to-consumer marketer at Boardroom, he was responsible for selling over a billion dollars worth of products “$39 at a time” to millions. As a business-to-business marketer with Titans Marketing, he has sold over $5 million worth of products (and services) to thousands, enabling them to spread the gospel about direct marketing to millions. During both careers, he has been a serial direct marketer, with a foundation in the eternal truths and fundamentals of direct response…while being committed to “overdelivering” over almost four decades. Please welcome today's guest, Brian Kurtz! Top 3 Amplifiers: 1. How to create the biggest impact with direct response marketing 2. The importance of overdelivering with your marketing 3. The recency, frequency, and monetary method you need to be implementing in your business To listen, find other episodes, access the show notes, and find out more go to www.amplifyto7figures.com Connect with today's guest: Website: https://www.briankurtz.net/products/ and https://www.briankurtz.net/work-with-me/ Website: https://overdeliverbook.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/brian.kurtz.121 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-kurtz-a1934

In this episode, Eric welcomes Brad Hoppmann, CMO at InvestorPlace, to talk about his approach to developing and implementing a strong marketing strategy while sharing tips on how to make your marketing campaign easily understandable and scalable.“If a fourth grader can understand it, it can scale… If a promotion is too targeted, you just can't scale it.”   - Brad Hoppmann Brad has been in media publishing since before it was trendy, so he's one of the best marketing experts to learn lessons from on topics like messaging, copywriting, calculating customer acquisition cost (CAC), organizational structure, lead conversion, scaling marketing campaigns, and career development.  You'll learn the benefits of having a well-organized marketing team and how Brad's marketing team is structured, how he entered the financial publishing and marketing fields, how to have efficient conversations about strategy with opinionated coworkers, and more! “How do you take a huge investing idea like cryptocurrency and explain it to a fourth grader? If you can do that in a campaign and make it so easy… make the promotion so readable that even a fourth grader can understand it… that is what we've found to be the most successful for us.”                                                                                             - Brad Hoppmann Resources mentioned:Breakthrough Advertising by Eugene Schwartz: www.breakthroughadvertisingbook.com The Copywriter's Handbook by Bob Bly: https://www.bly.com/copyhandbook Clayton Makepeace's Copywriting Course: https://www.awai.com/makepeace/7-days-or-less/p/ Gary Halbert: https://www.thegaryhalbertletter.com About Eric Stockton, VP of Demand Generation, Constant Contact:A pioneer and innovator in the areas of internet marketing, eCommerce, lead generation, publishing, and online media. Eric has directly led $3MM+ ad budgets and $70M+ top-lin sales organizations.Connect with Eric: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericstockton About Brad Hoppmann, Chief Marketing Officer, InvestorPlace:Brad Hoppmann is in the business of big ideas and serves as the Chief Marketing Officer of InvestorPlace Media, LLC. Brad started at InvestorPlace Media, LLC in Feb of 2018 and is an expert in all things publishing, financial services, subscription, and direct marketing. Brad currently resides in the Baltimore, Maryland Area.Connect with Brad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradhoppmann

On this episode we dive into: Finding things that ground usHow we can be more intentional, especially during our busy livesNavigating conversations with others who might be struggling in their mindfulness journeyDana asks, what are things that help ground you? Our future thoughts, our thought projections, can throw us off balance. Having grounding practices can bring us back to the present moment and support mindfulness.More isn't better, being intentional is better. When we live more intentionally, it can have a huge positive impact on our brain health. We are not our thoughts, we are the awareness of our thoughts.The Take Home:Whether it's a bath, or a heating pad on your belly, finding things during the day to feel grounded is a game-changer! When you get to a certain point in your mindfulness practice, you are more in tune with suffering. When we are grounded, it's easier to maintain our energy levels when we are around people who might be in a more negative headspace. Quote of the Day: Success is an process, not an event. - Gary HalbertPs. If you have something you'd like to ask us, send us a message and we'll add it to our list!! XxGet in touch with Michelle or Dana: Michelle WolfeInstagram: @themichellewolfeThe Muve Forward Podcast: @themuveforwardpodcastWebsite: www.themichellewolfe.com Dana Ruby MartinInstagram: @danarubymartinWebsite: www.revivalbymartinandco.com Use code MUVE15 while you shop!

Copywriter Bond Halbert learned from legend Gary Halbert. He now teaches the crucial importance of good research and smart editing to effective copy.

Where's direct response marketing and long-form copy heading in 2021 and beyond? Is eCom taking over? If you want to discover some profound insights and raw truths about the past, present, and FUTURE of direct response that will open your mind WIDE... You CAN'T miss this special bonus edition of The Road to a Billion with Stefan Georgi… The call-in show where YOU get to ask him questions about copywriting, freelancing, relationships, scaling offers, entrepreneurship, mindset, and more! In this episode, Stefan and co-host Ed Reay are joined by the legendary Craig Clemens. If you don't know Craig, he is the co-founder of Golden Hippo, America's largest digitally native brand incubator… Which, under his leadership, went from zero to over 800 employees and became one of the fastest-growing companies in the USA (their brands include Gundry MD, amongst many others)... And he's also one of the most successful direct response copywriters of all time, having written many of the biggest digital ad campaigns in history and generating hundreds of millions of video views and upwards of $1B in sales. Here's a glimpse of the insanely valuable insights you are about to discover: • The ONE element of copy Eben Pagan had Craig focus on when he started writing, that made ALL the difference in Craig's career (most copywriters nowadays are missing this chunk of the learning!) •4 MUST-HAVES before launching your own offer in the health space in 2021 (sorry, but this is probably not what you wanted to hear...) • How Craig raised $1.5 MM in a month for a charity leveraging BitClout (and some insider secrets on how YOU can profit from it!) How can you be the NEXT person to be featured in an episode and get YOUR questions answered too? “The Road to a Billion” Radio Show airs Thursdays at 10 am PST… Join Stefan's email list to get the registration link for future shows, plus lots of other updates and opportunities you won't find anywhere else. Sign up here: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbXFyUUZSTU5sOGVRNXJnSXRNMklCcmdzcklyd3xBQ3Jtc0trZC1DdnN4SXhkVXJEMHVXcjFQdmtOUDQ1d1BBbW9Rc25xNXdDQVFTc05qOUNJaWV4Rk9uaHNRT0V3SjZ0Q1Y5WWtnRzFOQVNKSWV0bnNDQml1S2l3MzJnSloxY1ZqNnBPeVpCSktfQ3BiVklQa1pJYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.stefanpaulgeorgi.com%2Fsubscribe%2F (https://www.stefanpaulgeorgi.com/subs...)​ Make sure to subscribe to Stefan's YouTube channel to get notified about new episodes the moment they're released... https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkFsWm1xR3pZOThSZzY1LVJUaWZxaTlJTUxtZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsX2U3d3VFUmY0VVFBcHkxLS0tSGhpUTJzbFNfN2REc3ktZnlsaDdfZzctWjFFM0I3V1UwMWdQc2RPdkgzLTk4ZnBqcHhibTJOSEhCY19PYUEzeE1QX1g2V1BxbWVyVTltM29RbEJvcWg5VGtLV2FVaw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2FSubscribeStefanGeorgiYT (https://bit.ly/SubscribeStefanGeorgiYT)​ Show notes How Craig started writing copy by creating Gary Halbert-styled party invites. The SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT type of copy that Craig teaches every copywriter at Golden Hippo when they first start out. How contrasting market trends led to the creation of Golden Hippo and why Stefan was jealous about it. The truth about going broad versus going hyper-targeted in the messaging of an offer. Interested to work at Golden Hippo as a copywriter or media buyer? Apply here. Why transitioning from a copywriter/freelancer to an offer owner may be the WORST decision ever. Is long-form direct response marketing DEAD? “The magic in copywriting is in the _______.” Plus, little-known reasons that cause the results from your copy to tank. How to make money simply from people liking you on this up-and-coming platform that even Elon Musk is on. The best way to improve your email copy quickly to impress a client. NEVER work with this type of doctor in any partnership. Useful resources/links Golden Hippo is hiring writers and media buyers!! Copywriters, send your cover letter, resume, and samples to...