Podcast appearances and mentions of Alan Bond

Alan Bond is an Australian businessman known for his rise to fame and subsequent fall from grace. Celebrated for his role in Australia's 1983 America's Cup victory, his involvement in significant corporate fraud mars Bond's legacy, particularly the Bell Resources case, which became a defining moment in Australia's corporate history. This episode of Crime Insiders Judgements explores Bond's audacious business dealings, legal battles, and the implications of his actions on corporate governance in Australia.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Paul Barry famously wrote about the rise, fall and failings of Alan Bond. He has spent time looking into another billionaire businessman, Sanjeev Gupta.

Alan Bond, "Bondy" as he was known by Prime Ministers and Aussie battlers alike, was unlike the other Australia flamboyant billionaires of the 1980s. He and his wife Eileen, whom he called Big Red, built their fortune from nothing in the suburbs of Perth, and they still wore their humble beginnings on their sleeves when they socialised with royalty.Of course, it all came crashing down in those brutal post stock exchange crash days in the early nineties.Bryce and Alec from our favourite millennial finance podcast, Equity Mates Investing, join us again on Australian True Crime to tell us all about it.You can listen to their podcasts "Equity Mates Investing" and "Get Started Investing" wherever you get your podcasts.Visit www.equitymates.com/events to keep up to date with their live events.For Support: Lifeline  on 13 11 1413 YARN on 13 92 76 (24/7 crisis support phone line for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples)1800RESPECT: 1800 737 732CREDITS:Host: Meshel Laurie. You can find her on Instagram Guest: Bryce and Alec from the "Equity Mates Investing" podcastExecutive Producer/Editor: Matthew TankardThis episode contains extra content from 9News Perth, as well as the song "Land Down Under" by Men at Work.GET IN TOUCH:https://www.australiantruecrimethepodcast.com/Follow the show on Instagram @australiantruecrimepodcast and Facebook Email the show at AusTrueCrimePodcast@gmail.comBuild your pro podcast with The Audio CollegeSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/australiantruecrime. Become a subscriber to Australian True Crime Plus here: https://plus.acast.com/s/australiantruecrime. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is a "Shortcut" episode. It's a shortened version of this week's more detailed full episode, which is also available on our feed. Alan Bond, "Bondy" as he was known by Prime Ministers and Aussie battlers alike, was unlike the other Australia flamboyant billionaires of the 1980s. He and his wife Eileen, whom he called Big Red, built their fortune from nothing in the suburbs of Perth, and they still wore their humble beginnings on their sleeves when they socialised with royalty.Of course, it all came crashing down in those brutal post stock exchange crash days in the early nineties.Bryce and Alec from our favourite millennial finance podcast, Equity Mates Investing, join us again on Australian True Crime to tell us all about it.You can listen to their podcasts "Equity Mates Investing" and "Get Started Investing" wherever you get your podcasts.Visit www.equitymates.com/events to keep up to date with their live events.For Support: Lifeline  on 13 11 1413 YARN on 13 92 76 (24/7 crisis support phone line for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples)1800RESPECT: 1800 737 732CREDITS:Host: Meshel Laurie. You can find her on Instagram Guest: Bryce and Alec from the "Equity Mates Investing" podcastExecutive Producer/Editor: Matthew TankardThis episode contains extra content from 9News Perth, as well as the song "Land Down Under" by Men at Work.GET IN TOUCH:https://www.australiantruecrimethepodcast.com/Follow the show on Instagram @australiantruecrimepodcast and Facebook Email the show at AusTrueCrimePodcast@gmail.comBuild your pro podcast with The Audio CollegeSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/australiantruecrime. Become a subscriber to Australian True Crime Plus here: https://plus.acast.com/s/australiantruecrime. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

“Back in the day if you couldn't see it, you couldn't mine it”. Sean Russo, managing director of Noah's Rule joins Cocktails & Commodities. In this episode, Sean revisits ‘the last of the chalkies', the impact the newly floated Aussie dollar had on gold miners hedging books, two key processes which transformed Australia's gold mining industry and why the purple patch is the sweet spot for gold investors. (1:52) – Starting out when Alan Bond ruled the gold sector (4:00) ­– The last of the ‘chalkies' (6:40) – How Australia became a gold mining behemoth (10:17) – Aussie dollar: From parity to half (17:00) – Look for the purple patch (24:14) – Currency weakness, high mining costs & gold prices (28:11) – Hedging secret: Why miners need to hedge oil (35:00) – Where the gold price is going (43:01) – A favourite tipple Prices correct at the time of recording

Crown Resorts, the Bond Group, James Hardie, HIH Insurance, Geoffrey Edelsten's Allied Medical Group, 7-Eleven and Rio Tinto, the list goes on…Australia has suffered from the continual sting of business scandals since corporate cowboys like Alan Bond and Christopher Skase wrought so much damage during the 1980s. Since then, hundreds of thousands of Australians have been affected, with many left traumatised when corporations collapse due to gross mismanagement and profits being put before people.Award-winning author Quentin Beresford takes us inside corporate Australia's highest-profile scandals and the factors that drive them — the rise of celebrity CEOs, timid regulators, inept boards, the murky links between big business, governments, banks, media and lobby groups — and explores a path towards higher ethical standards from organisations. It's a wild ride into the heart of corporate Australia.In this episode Gregory Dobbs chats to Quentin Beresford about the continuous string of corporate scandals that has plagued Australia over the last forty years, the gallery of rogues who have been at the helm of these scandals, and the scourge of crony capitalism and the lack of regulation that has allowed these scandals to proliferate.

Crown Resorts, the Bond Group, James Hardie, HIH Insurance, Geoffrey Edelsten's Allied Medical Group, 7-Eleven and Rio Tinto, the list goes on… Australia has suffered from the continual sting of business scandals since corporate cowboys like Alan Bond and Christopher Skase wrought so much damage during the 1980s. Since then, hundreds of thousands of Australians have been affected, with many left traumatised when corporations collapse due to gross mismanagement and profits being put before people. Award-winning author Quentin Beresford takes us inside corporate Australia's highest-profile scandals and the factors that drive them — the rise of celebrity CEOs, timid regulators, inept boards, the murky links between big business, governments, banks, media and lobby groups — and explores a path towards higher ethical standards from organisations. It's a wild ride into the heart of corporate Australia. In this episode Gregory Dobbs chats to Quentin Beresford about the continuous string of corporate scandals that has plagued Australia over the last forty years, the gallery of rogues who have been at the helm of these scandals, and the scourge of crony capitalism and the lack of regulation that has allowed these scandals to proliferate.

In 1983, Alan Bond would go all in for the Cup, bringing together John Bertrand and Ben Lexcen in an all-out assault on the New York Yacht Club. The Australians would bring their winged keel, and perhaps more importantly, their mind tricks, as they fought the Americans in court and out on the water. Titus O'Reily and Mick Molloy recount the year the Australians challenged for the cup and for the first time in 132 years, prised it from the New York Yacht Club's iron grip. If you'd like more Sports Bizarre, become a member of Bizarre Plus. Click here to join today As a member, you'll get: A weekly bonus podcast Exclusive behind-the-scenes access A fortnightly newsletter Access to the members-only chatroom Ability to vote on future episodes Early access to any live show tickets Follow Sports Bizarre on: Instagram Facebook Twitter TikTok YouTubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Following the abrupt departure of now former-CEO Alan Joyce from QANTAS amidst suspected allegations of insider trading, Tim & Xanthe take a deep dive into the exploring psychology of corporate fraudsters in high-profile positions within white collar industries.Tim also shares his experience as the psychologist for Alan Bond: an Australian businessman who became infamous for orchestrating one of the country's largest corporate frauds in the 1980s, eventually leading to his conviction and imprisonment.His fraudulent activities involved the collapse of Bond Corporation and the misuse of investors' funds & during his bankrupcy trials in the 1990s was believed to have feigned the severity of his brain injury to avoid answering questions in court.Want to get involved in the community? Follow Motive & Method @motiveandmethod on Instagram.Motive & Method is an MIK Made Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Following the abrupt departure of now former-CEO Alan Joyce from QANTAS amidst suspected allegations of insider trading, Tim & Xanthe take a deep dive into the exploring psychology of corporate fraudsters in high-profile positions within white collar industries. Tim also shares his experience as the psychologist for Alan Bond: an Australian businessman who became infamous for orchestrating one of the country's largest corporate frauds in the 1980s, eventually leading to his conviction and imprisonment. His fraudulent activities involved the collapse of Bond Corporation and the misuse of investors' funds & during his bankrupcy trials in the 1990s was believed to have feigned the severity of his brain injury to avoid answering questions in court. Want to get involved in the community? Follow Motive & Method @motiveandmethod on Instagram. Motive & Method is an MIK Made Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With the British trying and failing for 100 years, the Australians now entered the fray, with Sir Frank Packer launching a challenge. When Sir Frank was asked why he decided to challenge, he replied, "Alcohol and delusions of grandeur." With the passing of Frank Packer, another Australian would pick up the mantle. He was from Western Australia, and his name was Alan Bond. If you'd like more Sports Bizarre, become a member of Bizarre Plus. Click here to join today As a member, you'll get: A weekly bonus podcast Exclusive behind-the-scenes access A fortnightly newsletter Access to the members-only chatroom Ability to vote on future episodes Early access to any live show tickets Follow Sports Bizarre on: Instagram Facebook Twitter TikTok YouTubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Luke Hewitt is playing Alan Bond in Taking Liberty which is on at the WA Maritime Museum. He spoke to Clairsy & Lisa about it. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Clairsy was the perfect husband last night and took his wife to see Mary Poppins. He told Lisa what he thought of it. Movie reviewer Ben O'Shea went to see A Haunting in Venice and gave his verdict to Clairsy & Lisa. In The Shaw Report, what science has declared the most iconic song of all time. Clairsy & Lisa opened the phones and had some fun with the songs you wouldn't play in prison and got some very funny answers. Clairsy & Lisa spoke to Luke Hewitt who is playing Alan Bond in Taking Liberty at the W.A Maritime Museum. Clairsy & Lisa had a chat about yesterday's stormy weather.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Derek Blanton is a Program Manager for Panduit and Alan Bond is a Product Manager for Panduit.

For thirty years Fraser was one of Australia's leading criminal lawyers. He defended underworld families the Moran's and the Pettingills, businessman Alan Bond, and footballer Jimmy Krakauer. With success came cocaine addiction ending with Fraser being charged. In part 2 we hear about his favourite cases and life of redemptionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For thirty years Fraser was one of Australia's leading criminal lawyers. He defended underworld families the Moran's and the Pettingills, businessman Alan Bond, and footballer Jimmy Krakauer. With success came cocaine addiction ending with Fraser being charged. In part 1 we hear about Andrew Frasers journey through Melbournes Underworld.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

WARNING: Adult language and concepts While the rest of the world was getting offended by 60's television shows or brand names of cheese, for 35 years Kevin Bloody Wilson has continued to not give a f***. In their chat, Kevin 'Bloody' Wilson shares with Matt 'Bloody' Collins his thoughts on cancel culture, what Alan Bond's wife said about his song Living next door to Alan, and where does D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F really come from. Kev is currently touring NSW, get your tickets here.      

On the first Money Café for 2023, Alan Kohler and Stephen Mayne reveal the donation habits of Woodside, Tabcorp and Wesfarmers, explain what Alan Bond has to do with Adani, gently point out that “renovating the RBA” is Alan's phrase, not the Treasurer's and reveal their rate hike predictions, religious affiliations and Stephen's Arafura Resources balance post-Gina's entry. Also: Virgin debt; solving the housing crisis; fees, tax-deductible subscriptions, CGT-free accounts for kids; directors selling; and what is a Chanticleer columnist or a serial pest?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The fourth Series of Shirley Robertson's Sailing Podcast starts in spectacular fashion as double Olympic gold medallist Robertson sits down with the skipper of the America's Cup's first ever successful Challenger, Australian John Bertrand.  It was exactly thirty nine years ago that Bertrand, skippering "Australia II" in Newport, crossed the finish line ahead of Dennis Connor's Defending "Liberty", to end the New York Yacht Club's one hundred and thirty two year winning streak.  For the sport of sailing, it provoked a seismic shift in international competition, for the thirty six year old Bertrand, competing in his fourth Cup, it was totally life changing."It was Everest, it was the four minute mile.  No one had ever got through that invisible barrier, the Everest of not only sailing, but of sport.  The America's Cup started before the American Civil War, it's remarkable...it was the Everest of sport that was there and was the fascination to many many entrepreneurs, including us Australians."Robertson and Bertrand begin their chat with a discussion about destiny as Bertrand discusses how his great grandfather was an engineer in Southampton, involved in the building of two of Sir Thomas Lipton's Shamrock America's Cup yachts.  The easy flowing conversation takes in Bertrand's Olympic campaigning, the pair share the unenviable position of both having finished an Olympic campaign in fourth place, before chat inevitably concentrates on the America's Cup campaign of 1983.Sailing for the Australian business tycoon Alan Bond, Bertrand lifts the lid on a campaign that ultimately led to the design and build of one of the most controversial yachts to have sailed around an America's Cup race course...:"Benny (Lexcen) then showed us the wing keeled boat and I thought 'oh my god, just give us an equal boat and we'll play the game', .....anyway we went sailing the first day over at Freemantle, and it was just unbelievable, the boat could spin on it's axiss relative to a conventional boat."Whether familiar with the sporting details of the 1983 America's Cup or not, Bertrand's interview with Robertson is a fascinating and revealing insight into what it took to end the unprecedented one hundred and thirty two year winning streak, told by one of sailing's great story tellers...:"The full significance (of what we had done) really only became apparent when we got home, and still is...The country stopped...you could not buy a bottle of champagne in Australia the day after the America's Cup....In a survey recently, the most memorable events in modern Australian history, John F Kennedy's assasination, Armstrong on the moon and Australia II crossing the finishing line."This is a fascinating exchange, as Bertrand discusses all manner of stories, from the pre-race words to the team from backer Alan Bond, to his relationship, post 1983, with defeated Defender Dennis Connor.  The events of September 1983 are now sailing folk lore, but to hear them directly from the man in charge of the America's Cup's first ever successful Challenger is truly inspiring.An America's Cup Hall of Famer, one of the most decorated sailors of all time, Olympic medalist and multiple world champion, Bertrand's chat with Robertson extends well beyond the 1983 America's Cup, and is a revealing and engaging insight into the life and mind of one of Australia's greatest ever sporting icons.Support the show

Part 2 of  double Olympic gold medallist Robertson's chat with the skipper of the America's Cup's first ever successful Challenger, Australian John Bertrand.  It was exactly thirty nine years ago that Bertrand, skippering "Australia II" in Newport, crossed the finish line ahead of Dennis Connor's Defending "Liberty", to end the New York Yacht Club's one hundred and thirty two year winning streak.  For the sport of sailing, it provoked a seismic shift in international competition, for the thirty six year old Bertrand, competing in his fourth Cup, it was totally life changing."It was Everest, it was the four minute mile.  No one had ever got through that invisible barrier, the Everest of not only sailing, but of sport.  The America's Cup started before the American Civil War, it's remarkable...it was the Everest of sport that was there and was the fascination to many many entrepreneurs, including us Australians."Robertson and Bertrand begin their chat with a discussion about destiny as Bertrand discusses how his great grandfather was an engineer in Southampton, involved in the building of two of Sir Thomas Lipton's Shamrock America's Cup yachts.  The easy flowing conversation takes in Bertrand's Olympic campaigning, the pair share the unenviable position of both having finished an Olympic campaign in fourth place, before chat inevitably concentrates on the America's Cup campaign of 1983.Sailing for the Australian business tycoon Alan Bond, Bertrand lifts the lid on a campaign that ultimately led to the design and build of one of the most controversial yachts to have sailed around an America's Cup race course...:"Benny (Lexcen) then showed us the wing keeled boat and I thought 'oh my god, just give us an equal boat and we'll play the game', .....anyway we went sailing the first day over at Freemantle, and it was just unbelievable, the boat could spin on it's axiss relative to a conventional boat."Whether familiar with the sporting details of the 1983 America's Cup or not, Bertrand's interview with Robertson is a fascinating and revealing insight into what it took to end the unprecedented one hundred and thirty two year winning streak, told by one of sailing's great story tellers...:"The full significance (of what we had done) really only became apparent when we got home, and still is...The country stopped...you could not buy a bottle of champagne in Australia the day after the America's Cup....In a survey recently, the most memorable events in modern Australian history, John F Kennedy's assasination, Armstrong on the moon and Australia II crossing the finishing line."This is a fascinating exchange, as Bertrand discusses all manner of stories, from the pre-race words to the team from backer Alan Bond, to his relationship, post 1983, with defeated Defender Dennis Connor.  The events of September 1983 are now sailing folk lore, but to hear them directly from the man in charge of the America's Cup's first ever successful Challenger is truly inspiring.An America's Cup Hall of Famer, one of the most decorated sailors of all time, Olympic medalist and multiple world champion, Bertrand's chat with Robertson extends well beyond the 1983 America's Cup, and is a revealing and engaging insight into the life and mind of one of Australia's greatest ever sporting icons.Support the show

Day one of Millsy's Long Way to the Top tour began in Karratha, with the Jayco Outback Journey that Mills and wife Trish are travelling in arriving at Karratha Bowls Club for a live broadcast of his 12pm show. Millsy opened the show alongside the man who runs the town, Karratha mayor Peter Long, who arrived in the Pilbara in 1985 after working overseas in the offshore game in the UK. "There was no work except for in Karratha and worked for a bloke called Alan Bond, I remember my pay used to come out of the brewery, it used to have Swan Brewery on the paycheck," he told Mills.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This month on the podcast it's America's Cup Hall of Famer Tom Whidden who in this second part of his chat with Shirley Robertson discusses in detail the events of the famous 'race of the century', the America's Cup race that saw the New York Yacht Club finally relinquish their one hundred and thirty two year ownership of the America's Cup.It was a landmark edition of the Cup, in which Tom Whidden, onboard with Dennis Connor and his American Team, lost the Cup to Alan Bond's Australian syndicate, Australia II - the loss was the very first time the Cup left ownership of the New York Yacht Club since the first victory in 1851 in front of British Queen, Victoria, in a now famous race around the Isle of Wight.  Yet despite the implications of the loss, as Whidden reveals, humour was somehow still on the agenda...:"We had a little dock house where the telephone was, and I walked down the dock and the phone was ringing and I pick up the phone.  Dennis is still on the boat at that point...and the voice on the other end says "It's the President, they would like to talk to Dennis" and I say "Yeah yeah yeah",  and they say "No, it's really the President, it's President Reagan"...so I get on the loudspeaker and I said "Dennis Connor, Dennis Connor, you have a phone call, it's the President and he wants to tell you you screwed up!"Whidden's lighthearted and amicable style is wonderful to listen to, as he discusses his sailing career with a transfixed Robertson.  There are Dennis Connor stories aplenty, including his much talked about "plastic boat" quote of the 1987 Challenger Series campaign, but of course there's far more to Whidden than his America's Cup campaigns.  For decades now he's been at the forefront of one of the industry's leading corporate entities as the driving force of new technologies at North Sails, where he currently sits as Executive Chairman.Whidden discusses the growth of the company, the adoption of the revolutionary new production techniques, 3DL and 3Di and the future of the company as they continue to develop sailing technologies. The pair round their discussion off back at the modern day America's Cup, and Whidden's position within the New York Yacht Club, as he discusses his thoughts on the new AC75s, and American Magic's position representing the Club as the Cup heads to Barcelona.This edition of the podcast is in two parts and is available to listen to via the podcast page of Shirley's own website, at www.shirleyrobertson.com/podcast or via most popular podcast outlets, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcast and aCast. The podcast is produced and written by Tim Butt - for further enquires, please contact podcast@shirleyrobertson.com. Support the show

This month on the podcast it's America's Cup Hall of Famer Tom Whidden who recounts one of the most important eras in competitive sailing as he sits down with double Olympic gold medallist and podcast host Shirley Robertson.After a childhood spent learning to sail on the East Coast of the United States, a teenage Tom Whidden made two bold declarations.  He would become a sail maker, and he would compete in the America's Cup.  Decades later he's still a pivotal figure at sailing industry powerhouse North Sails, and he's raced an incredible eight America's Cup campaigns, having won the illusive trophy three times.But in this fascinating chat with Robertson, it's Whidden's memories of the historic 1983 loss to Alan Bond's Australia II that are the most revealing.  Whidden partnered up with Cup legend Dennis Connor for the 1980 Freedom Syndicate campaign, and was tactician for the 1983 Defence, but it was a Defence that would finally see the end to the one hundred and thirty two year winning streak.  Unsurprisingly, Whidden's memory of each and every race is near flawless, as he talks Robertson through the historic loss....:"I'm looking back and I'm going, they're about to tack, and the bow comes up, comes up, comes up and I go 'they're actually not tacking' and they get this big humongous left shift and they go up, and slowly but surely they sail away.  They beat us by two minutes in that race.  So now it's the race of the century." The 'race of the century' was of course the deciding match of the 1983 America's Cup, a match that Whidden and his team onboard Liberty famously lost.  It was the end of an era, Alan Bond's Australia II  finally prised the Cup out of the one hundred and thirty two year grip of the New York Yacht Club in an historic edition of the Cup that still has implications int he sport today.This edition of the podcast is in two parts and is available to listen to via the podcast page of Shirley's own website, at www.shirleyrobertson.com/podcast or via most popular podcast outlets, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcast and aCast. The podcast is produced and written by Tim Butt - for further enquires, please contact podcast@shirleyrobertson.com. Support the show

The rise and fall of Zhenya Zvetnenko is another cautionary tale in WA's long history of entrepreneurs who've flown too close to the sun, and got burnt.  You've got Alan Bond and the WA Inc debacle, Laurie Connell, and on a much lower scale… Sam Barnett.  These were all businessmen who got rich fast, and were only too happy to show off their wealth.  But, behind all the glitz and glamour was another side - a side they hid from the public.  And that side was not all lamborghinis and private jets.  It involved jilted investors - or in Zhenya's case - innocent people who were scammed, and millions of dollars were lost.  Authorities estimate hundreds of millions of dollars were illegally pocketed. on the back of Zhenya's auto-subscription mobile phone scam that charged unwitting customers $10 a month for SMS messages they didn't ask for, and didn't know about.  And all the while this was happening, Zhenya was showboating around Perth in his fancy cars, and posing for photos in his big mansion.  In hindsight, it had all the hallmarks of every other dodgy operator who tried so hard to look successful, when really they were just a crook.  But now Zhenya sits in an American jail, awaiting the decision of the judge on what punishment he'll receive for crimes.  The US prosecutors want him behind bars for nine years.  Now, none of this is going to stop the next Zhenya from dominating the Perth social scene.   For whatever reason, we just love to put these people up on a pedastal.  But maybe looking at the story of Zhenya will help us spot the next big WA scumbag.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

#435 Porpoising, Names & Rocket Science. Are the F1 teams ready for the first race? We ask questions about the correct names of drivers and teams. Are Mercedes using space tech on their car? Toto Wolff talks mental health. BAD return with Rocket Science.

Matt introduces the final part of his Alan Bond interviews. If you enjoy the show please go over to Patreon www.linktr.ee/Interplanetary Host: Matt Russell Music: Matt Russell / Iam7 Cover Image: Reaction Engines Additional Narration: UK Polly Twitter @interplanetypod

In keeping with our nostalgia format over the holiday break, here comes one of our favourite podcasts from 2019 with much loved Sydney media icon Graham McNeice. At the time this interview was recorded, Shadow had just finished his latest documentary The Masters Apprentice- the career of legendary jockey mentor Theo Green. He says the doco had been twenty years in the making. Graham explains how a copy of The Masters Apprentice can be accessed from the website. The man's famous nickname The Shadow is universally known around the industry. Not everybody knows how he got the tag. Graham explains. He looks back on his early life as one of six children growing up in the inner city suburb of Croydon Park where his father Syd had a butcher's shop. Syd hoped Graham would follow in his footsteps. Syd and Marion operated another flourishing little business within the confines of the shop.  Graham talks about his father's friendship with Frank Kennedy who was a prominent figure in the Sydney fight game. Frank later began calling greyhound racing for 2KA Katoomba and took young McNeice under his wing. That led Frank to a job calling the dogs for 2UE and Graham tagged along. Before long Graham was appointed full time understudy to 2UE race caller Des Hoysted. He'd call a race or two at the midweek gallops, and fill in whenever Des was unavailable. Shadow still dines out on a funny story involving his trip to the 1973 Bong Bong Cup. He talks of his involvement with the popular Ch 7 Sunday program Punters Post Mortem. He remembers with deep sadness the loss of his great friend and mentor Frank Kennedy in the mid 1970's. Shadow looks back on his days as course commentator at the Harold Park dogs. He pays a special tribute to champion sprinter Roman Earl. He takes us back to the beginning of his long association with Channel 10. He started as a part time producer, but that quickly led to a more permanent role. The veteran was one of the pioneers of satellite sports television in Australia. He was the founding Executive Producer at Club Super Station. He looks back on a breakaway bid by the Kembla Grange race club to go exclusively with the satellite channel. Graham looks back on the beginning of Skychannel under the ownership of Alan Bond. The burgeoning company had a low key beginning in Perth, but McNeice played a part in having the operation moved to Sydney. He looks back on a nine year hosting role on Sky when the races were beamed into pubs and clubs only. Shadow reflects on the history making day in 1998 when the races were broadcast into homes for the very first time. He looks back fondly on a twelve year stint as host of the popular Sunday morning programme Racing Retro. He speaks fondly of the many sports documentaries produced by his company Shadow Productions. He makes special mention of a few favourites. If you missed this podcast in 2019, here's your chance to catch up. It's a lovely stroll down memory lane with one of Australia's great storytellers.

Let's talk comedy and let's talk music, let's talk whatever comes to mind. I am your host Luke “Walgreens”Sauer. My guests are comedian Priya Guyadeen And music group Savage Bond. Savage Bond consists of Hope bond and Alan Bond.

Register your interest in Serviced Accommodation Discovery Day here, and a member of our team will get back to you to confirm your place at your preferred date.     In this episode, Kevin speaks to Alan Bond, a former Royal Navy Engineer Officer who now works as a Maritime Design Consultant whilst simultaneously running a successful SA property business in Bath, UK.   Alan explains how Progressive SA training enabled him to legally reduce the firm´s tax bill by tens of thousands. They also discuss using SSAS pensions to build equity, which can be leveraged for future purchases.   KEY TAKEAWAYS If you treat the business like a hobby, it will reward you like a hobby. If you treat it as a business, it will reward you like a business. Training is key. Ignorance is expensive. Day 1 of the Progressive SA course Alan learnt about capital allowances. This allowed him to offset over £200k in tax on a single property! Alan's highest-earning property has not paid a penny in income tax since it began trading and with the capital allowances still to come is unlikely to for a few more years. Automate wherever possible to reduce the amount of administration time it takes. Learn the systems and processes. Have a plan – Alan and partners have a 5-yr strategy to step back from the business, give up the day jobs, and allow one person to manage the business on their behalf. Get involved locally – Alan is a committee member for BASCA the local area Self-Catering association. It opens doors to politicians and local councils where you can exert influence. Use special-purpose financial vehicles like SSAS pensions to build equity to allow future purchases – guesthouses and B&Bs that are already classified as commercial property.   BEST MOMENTS ‘When you treat property investing as a business, it rewards you like a business' ‘SA is challenging and hard work but hugely rewarding'   VALUABLE RESOURCES The Serviced Accommodation Property Podcast https://propertysoldier.co.uk/ Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert T Kiyosaki Serviced Accommodation Success by Kevin Poneskis   Audio Book Version of Serviced Accommodation Success     GUEST RESOURCES Website - https://www.mipadbath.co.uk/ Alan´s email – Alan@mipadbath.co.uk   ABOUT THE GUEST Alan is a former Royal Navy Engineer Officer who now works as a Maritime Design Consultant whilst simultaneously running a successful SA property business in Bath, UK.   Alan began his property journey some 30+ years ago renting his own home to Royal Navy colleagues whilst he was away at sea. This was followed by a journey through student accommodation in Plymouth and standard buy-to-lets. Upon leaving the Navy he became a partner in a start-up property development company in Liverpool, which garnered him an appearance on TV's Homes Under the Hammer.   By his own admission, he has probably made just about every mistake in the property investor handbook, including treating it as a hobby, buying off-plan, and buying in a foreign country...twice! Undeterred he happened upon a Progressive Property MSOPI event some 4 years ago and was intrigued by Serviced Accommodation. Fed up with the anti-landlord taxation rules that were becoming ever more onerous and spurred on by his latest dealings with troublesome tenants, he embarked on SA training believing the model would work well in his new hometown of Bath.   Along with his business partners - his wife Sarah, and another couple - he has been running the SA business in Bath for three and a half years now and has 4 properties in Bath and one in Cornwall, all owner financed. Alan tells of how despite the current COVID restrictions and the impacts of the global pandemic the business is performing stronger than ever, with current demand exceeding all expectations. Staycations have replaced international tourism, and this doesn't look likely to slow down any time soon.   ABOUT THE HOST Your host Kevin Poneskis enjoys public speaking, travelling, exercising, and keeping fit. He also enjoys working with a charity called STOLL which provides accommodation and training for homeless veterans.   Kevin was in the British Army serving 24 years, mostly in a Commando unit, and retired at the rank of Regimental Sergeant Major. He left the Army in 2011 and became a full-time property investor. During most of his Army career, Kevin was investing in property and has been a property investor now for over 27 years.   CONTACT METHOD https://en-gb.facebook.com/propertysoldier/ kevin@propertysoldier.co.uk     See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The story goes that on the eve of Alan Bond’s crack at the final race in the 1983 America’s Cup challenge which would decide the event, one Australian newspaper had two headlines ready. One said ‘Alan Bond wins America’s Cup’. The other was alleged to have said ‘Pommy sign-writer loses America’s Cup.’  Truth or urbane myth, hero or villain, it could be said that it was a fair indication of the regard in which a suspicious Australia held the man who rose from rags to spectacular riches. But somehow, we couldn’t help but think that somewhere along the line something was seriously rotten. And it was. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

James and G look back over the incredible tale of Australia's greatest fraudster/national hero - Alan Bond. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

When I’ve observed todays’ guest from afar, usually at an ag conference or the like, I feel like she’s akin to rural Australia’s version of the Queen. Always impeccably dressed. A woman of strength, who’s practical, like a farmer, in her solutions and it seems that the crowd almost parts when she enters the room.Robbie Sefton lives with her husband Alastair on a farm close to Tamworth. From town she runs her national communications business, Seftons. It’s been strategising policy, product and service campaigns for government, research organisations and some big corporates like Westpac and Woolworths for more than 30 years. Robbie’s story spans from a childhood in Deni catching rabbits, to dazzling Freo in the Alan Bond days - surviving on champagne and a full freezer of connoisseur ice-creams - to an unexpectedly arduous medical procedure she was lucky to survive then and back home to NSW again, but not before she trucked thousands of sheep across the Nullabor. Robbie’s story is not one bit as you might expect it to be.Thankyou to our Series Sponsor: Blundstone Australia. The Autumn issue of Graziher has been sent to the printers and will be arriving in subscribers mail boxes soon. If you want a copy of your own please purchase or subscribe at graziher.com.auLife on the Land is a Manson + Company production.

In this episode, we discuss the quote, "I've always worked very, very hard, and the harder I worked, the luckier I got."   The more you take action in life, the more you put yourself out there you will find that you will have more luck. Not because of luck itself, but because you're taking action and creating ripple effects of that. We don't believe in luck. We believe in hard work. Let us know what you think about this episode!    Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beyondthequotepodcast/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/btqpodcast Visit our Website: https://www.beyondthequotepodcast.com

One of the country's most in-demand criminal psychologists, Dr Tim Watson-Munro's clients have included some infamous criminals from Hoddle St Massacre gunman Julian Knight to gangster Alphonse Gangitano, bikie Mick Hawi and corporate crook Alan Bond.  New episodes of season 2 will be released exclusively on icatchkillers.com.au a week earlier than anywhere else. Subscribers to icatchkillers.com.au get exclusive access, as well as access to articles, videos of Gary's interviews and interactive content.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

One of the country's most in-demand criminal psychologists, Dr Tim Watson-Munro's clients have included some infamous criminals from Hoddle St Massacre gunman Julian Knight to gangster Alphonse Gangitano, bikie Mick Hawi and corporate crook Alan Bond. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nothing normal here, once again we dive into another week of teenage diary entries, this time around we're back with my bestie Retna in Amsterdam. Once again there's a LOT to work through, it's been 33 weeks of constant work and it would seem the shine is well and truly wearing off. Inside this episode there’s a celebratory smorgasbord for the 1989 version of me to attend. I do an on air shift that goes extremely well, but I also refer to myself as having motor mouth in my diary entry, so I'm not entirely sure how extremely well it could have possibly been if I'm also acknowledging that there's a stack of verbal diarrhoea behind it's delivery. A new radio announcer moves into the radio station share house, I see Pedro Almodóvar’s “Women on the Verge of Nervous Breakdown” at a film festival, the then successful 80’s Aussie business tycoon, Alan Bond was getting nervous and panic was clearly setting in as he puts our radio station 6KA up for sale. Meanwhile the 1989 pilots dispute kickstarts and it could mean no flights home for my holidays in November, plus I get sassy on air after a listener rings up to suggest I play some 'normal' music, look out random lady because I'm about to get mouthy about how immature you are across the Pilbara, I wonder how my boss Neville will react to that? You'll find out all about it the moment you've stuffed all of this nonsense into your hearing holes.

Dr John Williams is an engineer at Lumentum where he works on the extreme challenges of sub-millimetre scale photonic circuits. For the purpose of this conversation, however, we will be discussing John’s former role as a design engineer at Reaction Engines, a UK company that is developing the Synergetic Air-Breathing Rocket Engine, also known as SABRE. The vision of SABRE is to build a new hypersonic engine that can operate both as an air-breathing jet engine and as a traditional rocket. This versatility means SABRE can be used as a propulsive platform for future hypersonic aircraft or to propel space planes into orbit. Furthermore, SABRE combines the unique fuel efficiency of a jet engine with the power and high-speed ability of a rocket. Having started at Reaction Engines early on when there were only two people in the design office, and later founding his own design and manufacturing company, John has many years of high-tech experience in the aerospace sector. In this episode of the Aerospace Engineering podcast, John and I talk about: his background as an aerospace engineer the benefits of an air-breathing rocket engine the particular design challenges in realising this type of engine and his lessons learned from high-tech development This episode of the Aerospace Engineering Podcast is brought to you by my patrons on Patreon. Patreon is a way for me to receive regular donations from listeners whenever I release a new episode, and with the help of these generous donors I have been able to pay for much of the expenses, hosting and travels costs that accrue in the production of this podcast. If you would like to support the podcast as a patron, then head over to my Patreon page. There are multiple levels of support, but anything from $1 an episode is highly appreciated. Thank you for your support! Selected Links from the Episode Reaction Engines webpage The SABRE engine: REL, WIRED, Wikipedia Precooler test at Mach 5 The Three Rocketeers BBC documentary Lecture by Alan Bond, co-founder of Reaction Engines Carbon nanotube composites

Part 2 of double Olympic gold medalist Shirley Robertson's chat with America's Cup Hall of Fame inductee Grant Simmer. Currently in the role of CEO at British Cup hopefuls INEOS TEAM UK, Simmer is into his eleventh Cup campaign, a remarkable feat for a man who's relationship with the oldest trophy in world sport goes back to 1983.As a twenty six year old, Simmer sailed as navigator onboard Australia II in the 26th America's Cup, and was a vital part of John Bertrand's afterguard in the Cup that finally put an and to the longest winning streak in world sport. For one hundred and thirty two years the New York Yacht Club had successfully defended twenty four challenges to the Cup, but Alan Bond's team onboard Australia II finally managed to uproot the trophy and take it back to Australia, to a hero's welcome. Simmer's memories of this time are a remarkable glimpse into what was one of the most historically significant moments in International sport."When we heard that the Prime Minister of Australia was essentially calling a holiday because we'd won this event, everybody was just shocked by the magnitude of what we'd done. I remember thinking 'Wow! He called a holiday! What's that all about,,,? We had the ticker tape parade in Perth, it was quite a big deal."Post AC26 Simmer initially returned to work as an engineer, but was back working with John Bertrand for the 1995 Cup in San Diego. As design coordinator, Simmer was responsible for the build of One Australia's Cup boat, but the outcome of their race against New Zealand in the Challenger Series would become Cup legend."It was quite rough and choppy and there was some debate whether we'd race because it was so windy and I'd been arguing we should race so we can find out what would break. The engineers were a bit nervous, but we raced and famously the boat buckled in the sheerline and broke in half and sank."Simmer's stories from throughout his Cup career are illuminating, and provide a wonderful insight into a life spent chasing one of the most illusive trophies in world sport. From his campaigns with Swiss team Alinghi, through his relationship with Russell Coutts and his time spent campaigning with Oracle Team USA, Grant Simmer has played a pivotal role in the modern America's Cup era, and has an almost unparalleled place in the sport.The pair finish their revealing chat by looking to the future, and the rapidly approaching America's Cup in Auckland, as Simmer discusses his role with Ben Ainslie's Cup team INEOS, and how he hopes his decades of Cup experience will help the British team finally win the the Cup back for a nation that haven't held it since it's very first regatta one hundred and sixty nine years ago.."I am confident that we've made some good decisions, over the past year particularly, so making good decisions at the right time in the campaign is important. Continuing to learn is important and not to be too proud of your decisions, but to understand why other people have made decisions, technically. I always say if you run out money and time at the same time, then you've manage the campaign perfectly."

Sitting in the hot seat this month for Part One of his chat with double Olympic gold medalist Shirley Robertson is America's Cup Hall of Fame inductee Grant Simmer. Currently in the role of CEO at British Cup hopefuls INEOS TEAM UK, Simmer is into his eleventh Cup campaign, a remarkable feat for a man who's relationship with the oldest trophy in world sport goes back to 1983.As a twenty six year old, Simmer sailed as navigator onboard Australia II in the 26th America's Cup, and was a vital part of John Bertrand's afterguard in the Cup that finally put an and to the longest winning streak in world sport. For one hundred and thirty two years the New York Yacht Club had successfully defended twenty four challenges to the Cup, but Alan Bond's team onboard Australia II finally managed to uproot the trophy and take it back to Australia, to a hero's welcome. Simmer's memories of this time are a remarkable glimpse into what was one of the most historically significant moments in International sport."When we heard that the Prime Minister of Australia was essentially calling a holiday because we'd won this event, everybody was just shocked by the magnitude of what we'd done. I remember thinking 'Wow! He called a holiday! What's that all about,,,? We had the ticker tape parade in Perth, it was quite a big deal."Post AC26 Simmer initially returned to work as an engineer, but was back working with John Bertrand for the 1995 Cup in San Diego. As design coordinator, Simmer was responsible for the build of One Australia's Cup boat, but the outcome of their race against New Zealand in the Challenger Series would become Cup legend."It was quite rough and choppy and there was some debate whether we'd race because it was so windy and I'd been arguing we should race so we can find out what would break. The engineers were a bit nervous, but we raced and famously the boat buckled in the sheerline and broke in half and sank."Simmer's stories from throughout his Cup career are illuminating, and provide a wonderful insight into a life spent chasing one of the most illusive trophies in world sport. From his campaigns with Swiss team Alinghi, through his relationship with Russell Coutts and his time spent campaigning with Oracle Team USA, Grant Simmer has played a pivotal role in the modern America's Cup era, and has an almost unparalleled place in the sport.The pair finish their revealing chat by looking to the future, and the rapidly approaching America's Cup in Auckland, as Simmer discusses his role with Ben Ainslie's Cup team INEOS, and how he hopes his decades of Cup experience will help the British team finally win the the Cup back for a nation that haven't held it since it's very first regatta one hundred and sixty nine years ago.."I am confident that we've made some good decisions, over the past year particularly, so making good decisions at the right time in the campaign is important. Continuing to learn is important and not to be too proud of your decisions, but to understand why other people have made decisions, technically. I always say if you run out money and time at the same time, then you've manage the campaign perfectly."

This is an absorbing chat with one of Perth’s all time favourite media personalities, and a man who gave trots commentary a new twist. John Hunt stepped away from the microphone in 2008 after twenty years as Sky and Gloucester Park’s resident commentator during which time he put some zing into the job. John was only 51 and right at the top of his game, but he had further horizons to explore. He reviews his first two books- one about a champion WA race mare, the other about his life in the media. John takes us back to his teen years when he won 200 junior tennis titles, and looked set for a career in the pro ranks. He talks of the injury that decimated his dream. He pays tribute to his sister Lesley, who was once ranked number 6 in the world. He looks back on his favourite harness horses and the people behind them. John talks of the satisfaction he derived from producing video documentaries on the careers of his favourite horses. Few people would be aware that John Hunt played a key role in the formative months of Alan Bond’s new acquisition Skychannel. John was the original host on the fledgling satellite station which began life in a back room at Channel 9’s Perth studios. He looks back on twenty years at the iconic Gloucester Park track, and the many cliches he introduced behind the microphone. Some are quoted to this day. Hunty answers the questions with all the colour and flair that made him a household name during his distinguished career.

This week I’m doing something a little different. I’ve got two of the most fabulous Aussie larrikins I know on together. Why – well that’s how I met them many years ago and as long as I’ve known them they’ve been joined at the hip as a package deal.Welcome to two of the nicest most humble down to earth (but rather big time actors) going around – Tim Ross (otherwise known as T Ross) and Ben Mingay. Ben Mingay is an actor, musician and international musical theatre performer. He was in Hacksaw Ridge, played Alan Bond in House of Bond (and was bloody spectacular) has been in Wonderland and about every other popular TV shown known to mankind. He was most recently Shrek in Shrek the musical Aussie tour until Covid shut it down. Tim Ross is an Australian Actor best known for Wonderland where he and Ben met, Neighbours, Rush, Underbelly and most recently Romance is on the Menu.For anyone who is interested in an acting career or a career in the arts this is a must listen for you. They both have pretty remarkable journeys from starting out as down to earth tradies to becoming world class actors. They both have refreshing and inspiring stories. So here we go…Follow Ben and TimFollow Lisa MessengerVisit Collective Hub

In 1986, Perth and the whole of Western in Australia was flying high, booming at this time, with the likes of Iron Ore magnate Lang Hancock and the occasionally corrupt Alan Bond flexing their business muscles.Yachts were docked aplenty in Fremantle post Australia’s 1983 America’s Cup win, which Alan Bond actually bankrolled.In the news, the number of disappearances of local Perth women were starting to raise many eyebrows, and then, news of the bodies hit the headlines…Join Shaun and Chloe as they discuss the infamous Moorhouse Murders, and the twisted tale of serial killer couple, David and Catherine Birnie.Support the show on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/truebluecrimeWebsite - www.truebluecrimepodcast.com - includes our merch storeFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/380493356066315/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/truebluecrime/Email - truebluecrime@gmail.comThis episode was produced by True Blue Media using the open source materials referenced below: Australian Families of Crime: David and Catherine BirnieCrime Investigation Australia: The Moorhouse HorrorsBeyond the Darklands: David and Catherine BirnieMurder Uncovered: The Kate Moir StoryThe Husband And Wife Serial Killers: Part One & Two, True Crime Conversations, specifically the research of author Andrew ByrneThe Birnies: Australia’s House of Horrors, by Paul B Kidd’s book Australia’s Serial Killers‘Inquiry on Prison Rape Claim’ by Tim ClarkeBirnie Given Secret Pauper’s Funeral - murderpediawww.crimestopperswa.com.auhttps://missingpersons.gov.au See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In this week's podcast we chat with Brad Rosser. Brad counts the who's who of business people amongst his mentors and employers including Sir Richard Branson and Alan Bond. Whilst working for companies such as Virgin, Brad developed his interest in startups and startup culture by helping launch, grow and sell numerous startup companies.  He then took this expertise to form his own company; BSF Group which specialises in growing, funding and selling startups. We talk all things from beginnings to working with Alan Bond and Branson to what makes a successful startup. if you are a startup and you're looking for help to grow, Brad is keen to hear from you: https://www.thebsfgroup.com/ We highly recommend his book if you are interested in growing or starting a business: https://www.thebsfgroup.com/the-book --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/cheeky-investor/message

In this podcast Mark Beyer and Mark Pownall discuss Pindan, South Perth developments, big leadership changes, Alan Bond's mansion, tourism figures, Sealink expansion, and our biggest exporters.

In this podcast Mark Beyer and Mark Pownall discuss Pindan, South Perth developments, big leadership changes, Alan Bond's mansion, tourism figures, Sealink expansion, and our biggest exporters.

Criminal psychologist Tim Watson-Munro takes us into the minds of some of Australia's worst crims, from the jailhouse genius able to convince everyone he had gone blind to the "bad, not mad" Ivan Milat. Over 41 years, his experiences have included working with both Hoddle Street killer Julian Knight as well as survivors of the massacre; assessing egotistical fraudster Alan Bond; and working with the "highly intelligent" but "extraordinarily violent" Alphonse Gangitano. He discusses whether killers are born evil, the criminals who are hardest to treat, the escalation of offenders such as Mr Cruel and what drives people to kill together. Plus, he reveals the most haunting memories of his career and names Australia's most evil. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In depth interview with implementation consultant for Fast Enterprises, Alan Bond.

This week features our chat with Alan Bond and a usual rundown of some of the week's top space new Space Quote: Franklin Chang-Diaz On this Day? Donald Lynden-Bell Weird Objects in Space Jamie's doing a marathon https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/jamie-franklin3 Space Song playlist on spotify bit.ly/spacesongs If you enjoy the show please go over to www.Patreon.com/Interplanetary and become a Patron or even a producer of the show. If you enjoy why not join the BIS at www.bis-space.com the oldest space advocacy organisation in the world. Subscribe on iTunes itunes.apple.com/podcast/id1097505801 Subscribe on Stitcher www.stitcher.com/podcast/interplanetary-podcast Hosts: Matt Russell and Jamie Franklin Music: Matt Russell / Iam7 Additional Narration: George Russell www.interplanetary.org.uk @interplanetypod

I love listening to people's life stories. Every one has the power to change and shape your own life for the better, this one is no exception.  Each Wednesday, join me, Peter Finn, managing director of FACE Contracting, as I navigate the ups and downs of the mining industry with forward-thinking professionals from all walks of life. If you're involved in the mining industry in any way – whether you're a lifer or a high-school student looking to make the leap – Full Production is the podcast for you.  Hugh Gallagher is the kind of guy who started working at 11 picking fruit. He went on to become a carpenter and building surveyor before becoming Chief Executive of the Kalgoorlie-Boulder Chamber of Commerce & Industry – a position he held for a whopping 27 years. You better believe he's got some experience to share. He's also the kind of guy who loves a chat. As you'll hear it's one of his secrets of success. He's all for the power of communication, and as he's proven that opening yourself up for a simple chat and listening to other people can change your career, your life and your community for the better.  Here's some of what we dig into in this chat: His journey from humble beginnings Why he's always up for a conversation His passion for inspiring young people Insights into how a chamber of commerce works Bringing youth and experience together to make things happen How young people can make a real go of it, and examples Why it's so important to look at the big picture Why we need to stop overthinking The importance of first impressions His top life philosophies (even one from Alan Bond. Yes, that Alan Bond)   Links: Hugh Gallagher - LinkedIn Kalgoorlie-Boulder Chamber of Commerce and Industry - website

An aviation entrepreneur creates the boyband craze of the nineties and one of the longest running Ponzi schemes in American history. Prelude: In Australia, Alan Bond is remembered as both a national hero and national disgrace. SUPPORT: Patreon.com/Swindled. DONATE: SwindledPodcast.com/Support. CONSUME: SwindledPodcast.com/Shop. INSTAGRAM: Instagram.com/SwindledPodcast. TWITTER: Twitter.com/SwindledPodcast. FACEBOOK: Facebook.com/SwindledPodcast. Thanks for listening. :-) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Andrew began his professional career as a chartered accountant with KPMG Peat Marwick in the late 80s and witnessed the impact and the excesses of poor corporate leadership firsthand, working on the administration/winding up of a number of high profile Australian companies, including LJ Hooker, Alan Bond's companies and Spedleys. He also experienced the demoralising impact of a large process driven and depersonalised bureaucracy.He then became a criminal lawyer before joining a large national law firm making partner at age 35.Following the birth of his 4th child during a meditation Andrew had a knowing that would change his life and career trajectory forever. He knew he had to quit law and so hung up his suit and silk tie to train as a coach and clinical practitioner of NLP.Today Andrew incorporates cutting edge accelerated change techniques using the latest discoveries in neuroscience and human behaviour along with a grounded certainty in sitting with your stuff, meditating and trusting the knowing.During this podcast Andrew selects cards #1, 12, 23, 42 and 50 from the Cards for Uniqueness. Tune in to listening to this interesting interview.Find out more about Andrew at http://www.AndrewHughes.com

This week features part 2 of our chat with Alan Bond talking about future propulsion systems. Jamie and Matt bring you the week's space news. China Long March 8 and 9 ISRO successfully tests crew escape system for first human space flight All change in personnel as Rogozin gets busy England play sweden in the formerly closed city of Samara Cornwall Council has admitted that it is ‘anticipating a positive announcement’ Matt's trip to the CSG Space Song playlist on spotify bit.ly/spacesongs If you enjoy the show please go over to www.Patreon.com/Interplanetary and become a Patron or even a producer of the show. If you enjoy why not join the BIS at www.bis-space.com the oldest space advocacy organisation in the world. Subscribe on iTunes itunes.apple.com/podcast/id1097505801 Subscribe on Stitcher www.stitcher.com/podcast/interplanetary-podcast Hosts: Matt Russell and Jamie Franklin Music: Matt Russell / Iam7 Additional Narration: George Russell www.interplanetary.org.uk @interplanetypod

This week features a part 1 of our chat with Alan Bond a legend of British Rocketry - Hotol, Daedalus, Sklon, Blue Streak, Reaction Engines, Sabre. His life in rockets. Jamie and Matt bring you the week's space news. Happy Birthday Martin John Rees Happy Birthday Yury Petrovich Artyukhin JUNE 21st The summer solstice Trump and the Space Council ESA Council decides on the completion of Ariane 6 and endorses start of transition from Ariane 5 to Ariane 6 VEGA-C - Launching in one year European Exploration Envelope Programme, (known as E3P) Hayabusa2 is within sight of its target, Ryugu ATLAS18qqn/AT2018cow Something has blown up in the universe ARE WE ALONE? Space Song playlist on spotify bit.ly/spacesongs If you enjoy the show please go over to www.Patreon.com/Interplanetary and become a Patron or even a producer of the show. If you enjoy why not join the BIS at www.bis-space.com the oldest space advocacy organisation in the world. Subscribe on iTunes itunes.apple.com/podcast/id1097505801 Subscribe on Stitcher www.stitcher.com/podcast/interplanetary-podcast Hosts: Matt Russell and Jamie Franklin Music: Matt Russell / Iam7 Additional Narration: George Russell www.interplanetary.org.uk @interplanetypod Space and time may have a structure as intricate as the fauna of a rich ecosystem, but on a scale far larger than the horizon of our observations

We love Green Guide Letters on Planet America, forgetting Alan Bond and finally someone speaks out on pauses in weather reports.  Plus celebrity sightings and Karl’s adventures in show business.       STEELE'S GRAND GARAGE SALE DETAILS!     SUPPORT THE ONGOING PRODUCTION OF I LOVE GREEN GUIDE LETTERS AND RECIEVE EVERY EPISODE EVER IN FULL AND ENJOY ON GOING BONUS CONTENT FOR JUST $3 A MONTH. patreon.com/iLoveGGLetters     YOU CAN HELP Steele Wars with a sweet 5 star review on iTunes or plug the show on Facebook or Twitter. I really appreciate it.      WANT TO HEAR COMEDIANS TALK STAR WARS? Being a Star Wars nerd has never been more enjoyable. - Rip It Up Magazine www.SteeleWars.com www.SteeleWars.com/iTunes     GET A FREE AUDIO BOOK & HELP SUPPORT THE SHOW! FOR A FREE 1 MONTH AUDIBLE TRIAL AND A FREE AUDIBLE BOOK CLICK www.audibletrial.com/letters. Get an audiobook of your choice, free, with a 30-day trial. Cancel before your trial ends and you will not be charged.     TweetSteele SaundersI Love Green Guide Letters  

We love Green Guide Letters on Planet America, forgetting Alan Bond and finally someone speaks out on pauses in weather reports.  Plus celebrity sightings and Karl’s adventures in show business.       STEELE'S GRAND GARAGE SALE DETAILS!     SUPPORT THE ONGOING PRODUCTION OF I LOVE GREEN GUIDE LETTERS AND RECIEVE EVERY EPISODE EVER IN FULL AND ENJOY ON GOING BONUS CONTENT FOR JUST $3 A MONTH. patreon.com/iLoveGGLetters     YOU CAN HELP Steele Wars with a sweet 5 star review on iTunes or plug the show on Facebook or Twitter. I really appreciate it.      WANT TO HEAR COMEDIANS TALK STAR WARS? Being a Star Wars nerd has never been more enjoyable. - Rip It Up Magazine www.SteeleWars.com www.SteeleWars.com/iTunes     GET A FREE AUDIO BOOK & HELP SUPPORT THE SHOW! FOR A FREE 1 MONTH AUDIBLE TRIAL AND A FREE AUDIBLE BOOK CLICK www.audibletrial.com/letters. Get an audiobook of your choice, free, with a 30-day trial. Cancel before your trial ends and you will not be charged.     TweetSteele SaundersI Love Green Guide Letters  

Elizabeth Harris visits Michael Salmon's studio in Kooyong, Melbourne, and learns from the children's author, illustrator, and entertainer of school children, what 50 years in the arts has taught him about -  Learning to trust your instincts about what early readers find funny. The importance of branching out and diversifying if you want to thrive as an author and illustrator in the long term. How your personality and people skills (or lack thereof) can influence your success in the arts. The pleasure of giving back to the community when you've attained a measure of professional success. How did a beloved children's book make it to the centre page of a newspaper, and its main character become 600 kilos of bronze outside a public library in the nation's capital? What's the connection between Michael, Healthy Harold (the Life Education giraffe that visits schools), and the Alannah and Madeline Foundation? Follow Michael as he travels around Australia visiting Indigenous schools and schools with students of diverse ethnicities, backgrounds, and levels of English fluency. Find out more about Michael Salmon's work at MichaelSalmon.com.au. Notes:Robyn Payne is an award-winning multi-instrumentalist, composer, producer and audio engineer of 25 years’ experience in the album, film, TV and advertising industries. She composed the music for the theme song 'Victoria Dances', which is featured in host Elizabeth Harris' children's book, Chantelle's Wish, available for sale on Elizabeth's website at ElizabethHarris.net.au. The lyrics for 'Victoria Dances' were written by Elizabeth Harris. FULL TRANSCRIPT  Elizabeth:        Welcome to Writers’ Tête-à-Tête with Elizabeth Harris, the global show that connects authors, songwriters and poets with their global audience. So I can continue to bring you high-calibre guests, I invite you to go to iTunes, click Subscribe, leave a review, and share this podcast with your friends. Today I’m delighted to introduce the highly creative and entertaining children’s author and illustrator, Michael Salmon. Michael Salmon has been involved in graphics, children’s literature, TV and theatre since 1967. He started his career with surfing cartoons, and exhibitions of his psychedelic art, and then joined the famous marionette troupe – The Tintookies – as a trainee set designer stage manager in 1968 (the Elizabethan Theatre Trust, Sydney). Since then his work has been solely for young people, both here in Australia and overseas. His many credits include his Alexander Bunyip Show (ABC TV 1978-1988), pantomimes, fabric and merchandise design, toy and board game invention, writing and illustrating of 176 picture story books – which Michael I’m absolutely flabbergasted and astonished and in wonderment at, and everybody’s laughing at that, or maybe he’s laughing at me, I don’t know. (Laughter) I’ll say it again – 176 picture story books for young readers. Several million copies of his titles have been sold worldwide. Michael has been visiting Australian primary schools for over 40 years. His hour-long sessions are interesting, fun, humorous and entertaining, with the focus on students developing their own creativity, which is just fantastic. Suitable for all years, many of these school visits can be seen on Michael’s website, which I will ask you to repeat later. Michael:          Okay. Elizabeth:        Several trips have been up to the Gulf of Carpentaria Savannah Schools and to the remote Aboriginal community Schools on Cape York Peninsula, as a guest of EDU. EDU – what is that? Michael:          Education Department, Queensland. Elizabeth:        The Australian Government honoured his work in 2004 by printing a 32nd Centenary, special edition of his first book The Monster that ate Canberra – I like that - as a Commonwealth publication … for both residents and visitors to our Capital. Every Federal Politician received a copy. Michael:          Even if they didn’t want it, they got one. (Laughter) Elizabeth: Michael was also the designer of ‘Buddy Bear’ for the Alannah and Madeline Foundation (Port Arthur 1996). The Foundation financially supports Children/Families who are victims of violence/violent crime; they are currently running an anti-bullying campaign in Australian Schools. In 2010 the ACT Government further recognized his work by commissioning a bronze statue of his first book character ‘Alexander Bunyip’. Unveiled in April 2011, it stands next to the new – and I’ll get you to say this, Michael … Michael:          GUN-GAH-LIN. Elizabeth:        Gungahlin Library in our Federal Capital. Thank you for saying that. Michael has presented ‘Bunyip-themed history sessions’ for audiences of School Children at the National Library of Australia since 2011. School touring and book titles continue, which I’m blown away by, because you’ve written and illustrated 176 books! Michael:          Some of those were activity books, to be fair, but they were necessitated – writing, the requirements of children, and illustrations, so they were all lumped in together, basically. Elizabeth:        So Michael Salmon, welcome to Writers’ Tête-à-Tête with Elizabeth Harris. Michael: Thank you very much. It’s a pleasure, and thank you for visiting my studio here in downtown Kooyong, Melbourne. Elizabeth:        We are delighted to be here – Serena Low and I, everybody – Serena being my wonderful tech support. Michael, we have been Facebook friends for some time now, which is a wonderful way to keep in contact with people. But do you think social media has affected children adversely, and stopped them from reading and enjoying children’s literature? Michael:          Do you know, in order to answer some of the questions you asked, I probably pondered this one the most. It’s strange times. I’m 67 years old now. If I go back to when I was a teenager … Elizabeth:        Looking very dapper, I may say. Michael:          Yes, thank you, thank you. (Laughter) It’s amazing what no exercise will do. (Laughter) Things have changed so much. If you go back to the fifties and sixties – which both you ladies will have to look at the old films and see reruns of Gidget and all that kind of stuff – however, the main communication of young people several, several decades ago, socially, would have been the telephone. Invariably, houses only had one line that mums and dads would need. But the girls mostly – and perhaps the boys too – would be on the line talking to their friends and all this kind of stuff. And that was the only direction of communication. Perhaps letters and whatever, but certainly the telephone was the main thing. Now how things have changed these days. Having 12 grandchildren ranging from – what are they now, 2 to 24 – I’ve seen a whole gamut, and I see daily just how much social media – the iPads, tablets and things – are taking up their time and the manners in which they take up their time. Elizabeth:        What a wonderful family to have! Michael:          Well, it’s certainly a bit like a zoo (laughter) – I hope they don’t mind me saying that – and I’m the head monkey, but that’s about it. That’s true. But if you think of a child – and one of the main loves in life is visiting schools, and over the many years in Australia I’ve visited many, many schools – and just see what the teachers are up against these days. And often the teachers are – it’s well-known – surrogate parents on many occasions. Often it’s left to teachers, whether it be librarians or very kind teachers … Elizabeth:        Challenging job. Michael:          … To instill in the children a love of literature and how important reading is. But I think of going back to my youth and my toy soldier collection and making and making balsa wood castles and Ormond keeps and whatever it may be, playing in my room with this fantasy world I had grown up in. Elizabeth:        What an imagination! Michael:          Well, my father read to me – when it first came out, back in the fifties, and I was quite young, but – The Hobbit, C.S. Lewis and the Narnian … – beautiful. I was brought up in those kind of – and he also read most of Dickens to me, as well as Kipling. Quite incredible stuff. So my father was a major player in my love of literature. And I’m not sure that it happens hugely these days, but I grew up in a world of imagination. And it wasn’t any great surprise to my parents that I entered the world I’m in, which is the fantasy world of children, because I never got out of it, basically. 67 years we’re looking at at the moment. I would say mental age is about 8 or 9. (Laughter) Elizabeth:        But you make very good coffee for a 9-year-old, Michael. Michael:          But it did eventuate that sitting in my studio in the early hours of the morning, if I start laughing at a concept or whatever, I know full well through the passage of time that preppies or Grade Ones or Twos or kinders will start laughing at it too. So you get to trust your judgement after a while in the arts. You get to know where your strengths are. But going back to your original question, I have a couple of grandchildren who are absolute whizzes on their tablets. They’ve gone through the Minecraft thing; they’ve gone this, they’ve gone that. Almost an obsessive kind of stuff there. Elizabeth:        It’s an addiction, I think. Michael:          Sometimes, you must take time away from the use of imagination. Because let’s face it, in using our imagination, our creativity – and creativity can be cooking a magnificent meal, it can be keeping a well-balanced house. There’s all kinds of creativity, or it could be the artist creativity, but that’s such an important thing, of finding who we are. Elizabeth:        Yes. Michael:          And to have children taken away to a certain extent Magic Land which is absolutely fine until they become obsessive or addictive, as some of these things are, there’s a great danger that children are – shall we say – not able to evaluate or to progress their natural talents etcetera coming through, especially in the arts. Elizabeth:        I totally agree with you. Michael, you’ve written and illustrated so many books. As I’ve mentioned a couple of times, 176. How do you decide what to write about? Michael:          Well, it’s probably – I’ve always written from a cover idea. There’s a book of mine going way back. It’s one of my old favourites, a very simple one, which is called The Pirate Who Wouldn’t Wash. And when I talk to children and they say where do you get your ideas from, I say sometimes you get two ideas that are unrelated and you put them together, and because hopefully my books are rather funny and I was brought up in the fifties on things like The Fabulous Goon Show, Peter Sellers, and Spike Milligan. I loved Monty Python which was a direct sort of baby from The Goon Show. So my love of comedy has always been UK-based. And so that strange juxtaposition of whatever, so I thought, okay, a pirate, and perhaps a person who doesn’t like to wash. And you put them together and you have the pirate who wouldn’t wash. And then you simply – it’s easy if you have a vivid imagination – you list a whole lot of encounters or what could happen to a pirate who wouldn’t wash. Elizabeth:        Could we talk about that? I’d love to talk about that. Michael:          A monster, and then someone who doesn’t like vegetables. Which was one of my stepsons, William, and he was ‘Grunt the Monster’, which was one of my early characters. Refused to eat his vegetables. His teachers went to great lengths to find out how he could eat them, disguise them in milkshakes or whatever it may be. So it was William I was writing about, one of my younger stepsons at that stage. And at university when he went through Architectural course, he was called Grunt, because they knew full well the book was based on him. So it’s good sometimes to disguise – but nonetheless feature things you see around you. Elizabeth:        How did he cope with it? Michael:          He loved it, he loved it, he loved it. Elizabeth:        He got attention? Michael:          He got attention, all that kind of stuff, and he had one of his best mates who let everyone know that he was called ‘Grunt’ – that was sort of his name. But at some stage, I think he uses that – he lectures in Architecture around the country these days. He’s gone and done very well, dear William, and he will sometimes use that as a joke. Elizabeth:        Yes. Icebreaker. Michael:          Icebreaker, exactly. Elizabeth:        Was there a pivotal person who influenced your career? And if so, can you tell us how they inspired you? Michael:          Probably apart from the people I’ve mentioned previously, the Tolkiens and the Hobbits and the Lord of the Rings and the C.S. Lewises and that sort of thing, I’ve always loved the classic British thing like Arthur Ransome’s Swallows and Amazons. These are very famous books that everyone read at one stage. Back in those early fifties, my father was at Cambridge University so we were hoisted out of New Zealand; we went to live in the UK, and it was such a great time for a child to be in the UK. It’s still suffering war damage from Second World War, and London still roped off sections of it - the Doodlebugs, the flying bombs that the Germans sent over to hit London. So it was a rather strange place, but the television was brilliant. I was a Enid Blyton fan, a foundation member of the Secret Seven Club. Elizabeth:        Were you really. Michael:          Even though based in Cambridge, we looked forward to every month of the Enid Blyton magazines, so I grew up on The Faraway Tree and the Secret Seven and the Famous Five. I had my badges, I had all the merchandise. But also on the television in those days was a show we never got to hear in Australia – Muffin the Mule. There was also Sooty the Sweep, Bill and Ben the Flowerpot Men. Andy Pandy was another one. Most of those were for kindies and little bubs. Basil Brush was a little bit later on. And British television was always superb, especially for children. Blue Peter and some of those famous shows was a little bit later on. I mention this because I had ten years of my own show on ABC which you’ll learn later on, and used puppets and things which I’d seen being used on British television. Elizabeth:        Can you tell us about that show please? Michael:          The show itself … When Alexander first became a character, it was a Michael 'Smartypants book', a little book I had published in 1972. This is The Monster That Ate Canberra. And this basically the genesis of the television show. I thought I would do a – I wasn’t a university student but it was like a smartypants university student publication, because the bunyip himself was not the Kangaroo – was in fact an oversized pink bunyip, more like a Chinese dragon. However, the monster was the public service, and so it was like a joke about the public service. Because back in those seventies and late sixties, large departments were being taken from Melbourne and Sydney and relocated in Canberra, Melbourne Commonwealth finance and other things, so Canberra was being flooded with the public service. And that was why Canberra was being set up, but anyway, as a youngster back in 1972 when I first wrote that book, I envisaged this large King Kong kind of character over Civic, which was the main principal shopping centre, the oldest shopping centre, going on Northbourne Avenue as you come in from Sydney. There’s this large monster devouring things, but this monster has a problem: he is short-sighted. Anyway, he saw the buildings – the famous, iconic buildings of Canberra as objects of food. So put them into – like the Academy of Science, a gigantic apple pie; the National Library, which was recently built, at that stage and still looks like a gigantic birthday cake; and I had the Carillon looking like a Paddle Pop or something like that, which are all to do with objects of food. And the bunyip devoured them. And the Prime Minister – the original Prime Minister back then was (William) “Billy” McMahon, and when he chucked, we had then changed to Gough Whitlam. So Prime Minsters changed within the reprints of this book. The best thing about this … way way back when Gough Whitlam became our Prime Minister, one of the first things he did was institute an office that had never been there before, called the Department of Women. It was there specially to consider and to aid passage of women in Australia into jobs and a whole range of things that had never been heard before in a male-dominated kind of world. Elizabeth:        I’ve always been a fan of Gough, so I must say … (Laughter) Michael:          Well, Gough appointed a single mum called Elizabeth Reid – Liz Reid – and she was a very famous lady and she really championed the cause of women, you know, equal rights, and these ridiculous things that should have been fixed a long time but hadn’t. So Liz Reid was pictured in the centre page of the Woman’s Weekly, soon after Gough – this was one of his first appointments, Liz Reid. And there was Liz with her little bub – so she was a brand new single mum. Elizabeth:        Oh wow. Which in those days would have been scandalous, wouldn’t it. Michael:          Oh yes, but Gough was famous for that. He already went out specially with the arts. Regardless of how he was considered as a Prime Minister, he was certainly a great patron of the arts, Gough Whitlam. Elizabeth:        As I said, I’m a fan. Michael:          In this picture, centre pages of Woman’s Weekly, double spread, was little bubba. And in little bubba’s hands, supported by his mother, was a copy of The Monster That Ate Canberra. Elizabeth:        Wow! How did you feel? Michael:          I thought, “Fantastic!” I got a call within a week from one of the biggest educational publishers in the world, called McGraw-Hill, asking “Can you tell us a little bit about this? And I was described as this is probably not how I would think, and I said “No, but thank you very much for calling.” So the most unusual thing sort of kicked up, and we were reprinting this book again and again for Canberra, because Canberra was laughing its head off. Elizabeth:        Good on you Ms Reid – and baby. Michael:          So we had a theatrical presentation, pantomimes based on it with the local Canberra youth theatre. ABC then serialized it on radio, and then came to me – this was about 1977 or so – saying, “Would you consider having Alexander Bunyip on television?” Elizabeth:        Wow. Michael:          And I said “Yes please, thank you very much.” And it was through a mate of mine, quite a well-known scriptwriter for Australian films called John Stevens, and also director of plays and whatever around Australia, and he was one of the directors of the young people’s programs in ABC, who were based at that stage in Sydney. Anyway, Alexander got on television through this rather, uh, strange path he led, entertaining the people of Canberra. Elizabeth:        Can I ask you with that, and throughout your life, you have enjoyed such great success, and certainly rightly so. Have you found that there’s been what has been seen as insignificant moments, turn into huge, huge achievements for you? Michael:          Well, (I) try to step away from cliché but sometimes it’s hard to, when I say you make your own luck. But the fact that that for example, one of my main – I love it – the statue of Alexander Bunyip, 600 kilograms of bronze outside the library. Elizabeth:        In that place I can’t pronounce. Michael:          Gungahlin, that’s right, Gungahlin. Elizabeth:        I’ll practise it. Michael:          I’ll tell you how that happened. Sometimes on Google if you’re an artistic person and you’re an author or illustrator, if you just put your name in and see what’s the latest thing, are there any new entries. Sometimes schools put in things in comments or whatever. Sometimes odd things about your life come up – business life, work life. And there was a situation that occurred, when Gungahlin Community Council had discussed whether – because John Stanhope, who was the chief minister of the ACT at that stage was putting up statues left right and centre, because he wanted a lot of edifices in Canberra to entertain people. Elizabeth:        He was a visual. Michael:          Yeah, visual person. And someone said, “Why don’t we have Alexander Bunyip?” and there was general laughter. But that was supported in the Council vote of Hansard, you know, the documented notes taken in that particular Council session, and I saw this online. And so I merely wrote to this person, sent them one of the more recent copies of The Monster That Ate Canberra, and said “That sounds great. Let me know if I can help.” Elizabeth:        Absolutely! Michael:          Gosh, one thing after another happened, and the head of the Council Alan Kirlin, with John Stanhope, got it organized, and within a year there was a brand new statue being launched by John Stanhope, one of the last things he did before he resigned. He’d done some magnificent work in Canberra. So new ministers were appointed etcetera, so John – the statue was launched, and I made a speech which was dedicated to my mum, who had died the year before. She was a Canberra girl, and I thought that would be nice to dedicate, at least mention her. I’m sure if she were around - in ethereal style - she wouldn’t miss out on that one, I can assure you. Elizabeth:        I’m sure. Michael:          But when the statue was dedicated – the statue stands there – Elizabeth:        Can we go back, because I would like to talk about that speech about your mum. Can we talk about that? Michael:          Yes. Well, my mother Judy, as I said who passed on in 2010 – the statue was put up in 2011 – was a very … went bush Port Douglas many years ago, before Christopher Skase was up there. (Laughter) So I used to go up there and visit her. A hurricane holiday house, which is simply a house in Port Douglas without any windows. It was up in the hills towards the Mosman River valley. Elizabeth:        For those who don’t know Christoper Skase, can you please touch on him briefly. Michael:          Christopher Skase was one of our major financial entrepreneurs who died over in a Spanish location owing millions of dollars to many people. He was like a younger brother of Alan Bond. That’s where Christopher Skase fitted in. I don’t think New York or Spain ever really sort of – Elizabeth:        Recovered. Michael:          Recovered from the Australian paparazzi to see whether Skase was in fact dying or whether he was in a wheelchair with breathing apparatus, wheeled out by his ever-loving wife Pixie, who is back safely in the country now. But that’s by the by. (Laughter) Michael:          My mother was a fairly gregarious character. Elizabeth:        Bit like yourself. Michael:          (Laughter) Pushy. Elizabeth:        No, no, no. Delightful, and entertaining. Michael:          Judy was one of the younger daughters of her father, my grandfather, Canon W. Edwards – Bill Edwards. He was a young Anglican curate who’d been badly gassed on the fields of Flanders and the Somme in the First World War. Elizabeth:        Oh dear. Michael:          But he was an educationalist, as well as a very strong Anglican within the church. So he was sent on his return out to Grammar School looking after that in Cooma. When Canberra was designated as the place to have our new capital, the Anglican Church from Sydney said, “Please harness up one of the buggies, and take six of your seniors and go look at four different venues in Canberra that we are looking at to have a brand new school.” Elizabeth:        Wow. Michael:          And they chose the most beautiful place, in a road called Mugga Way just at the bottom of Red Hill, which is Canberra Boys’ Grammar. He was their founding Headmaster. Elizabeth:        Was he! Michael:          But the fact was that they settled on that because they pitched their tents under the gum trees. They woke up with the sound of intense kookaburra noise, and thought this was perfect for a grammar school, or any other school for that matter. Elizabeth:        Oh, beautiful. Michael:          They were all talking and whatever it was. Elizabeth:        Bit like sounding the bell, you know. Michael:          (Laughter) So going back to those days, that was the start of Canberra and my family going back there to the thirties of last century. However, back in those days in the Second World War, my father had graduated from school in New Zealand, and was sent across as one of those New Zealand young soldiers to become an officer at Duntroon, the training college. The Defence Academy they call it now, but good old Duntroon. So when he graduated, it was the end of World War Two, and he was sent up to war crimes trials in Japan, as one of his first things the Aus-New Zealand ANZAC forces when they went up there to look after things for a while. But my mother was quite a brilliant lady, and she would always be the one painting and decorating and doing all this kind of stuff. Always a dynamic kind of person. And apart from loving her very much as a mum, she instilled in me this gregarious, rather exhibitionist kind of thing. Elizabeth:        (Laughter) Thank you Judy. It’s Judy, isn’t it. Thank you Judy. I know you’re here. Michael:          So Judy was responsible for – in younger, thinner days, long hair, beads, not necessarily hippie stuff but just total exhibitionist kind of stuff. Elizabeth:        Oh I’ve seen photographs of this man, everybody. My goodness, what a heartthrob. Michael:          I looked like I could have been another guitarist in Led Zeppelin or something. Elizabeth:        I’m actually just fanning myself with my paper. (Laughter) Michael:          But anyway, it’s all a bit of fun. Elizabeth:        Did you ever sing? Michael:          No, no, no. I was actually a drummer at one of the schools I attended. Elizabeth:        Were you? I like drummers. Michael:          Yes, but not this kind of drummer. In the pipe bands at Scotch College, Sydney. I was a tenor drummer. Elizabeth:        Okay. Michael:          So they have the big, the double bass drum or whatever and the tenor drums and the drumsticks - I forget the name – like the Poi they have in New Zealand. And the tenor drums – you have to have coordination if you want to play the tenor drums as you march along in your dress: the Black Watch dress. Elizabeth:        Isn’t learning music so important, which reflects in other areas? Michael:          It is, it is. Elizabeth:        Can we talk about that? Michael:          Well, I think that – not being musical but having written lyrics in my pantomimes – and down at a very amateur level worked out what a bunyip would sing about, or go back to an early blues song or doo-wop kind of song when Alexander is stuck in a zoo in the pantomime. So I had great fun. So my musical experience – I was lucky to have some very clever people, including one gentleman who until a few years ago was one of the Heads of Tutors at Canberra School of Music called Jim Cotter. Now Jim Cotter and I – he wrote my first music for me, for the pantomimes I used to do way back in the early days. And then Peter Scriven – he was the head of the Tintookies Marionette Theatre, who were all under the auspices of the Elizabethan Theatre Trust in Sydney at Potts Point. And Peter had engaged him to do – I was doing some sets – it was the first show, our first children’s show at the Opera House – and I did the costumes for Tintookies. It was a revamp of what Peter Scriven had been doing back in the fifties. And Jim had some brand new music, and so my musical experience was purely admiring music and talented people who did that, realizing that it was not my forte. Elizabeth:        Aren’t they clever. Michael:          Nonetheless, by writing lyrics and giving some vague, vague “rock ‘n roll and I like it” -like, you know. Not exactly “Stairway to Heaven”, you know what I’m saying? Elizabeth:        (Laughter) Who was your favourite band at that stage? Michael:          Ahh, I grew up in the Sixties. I got myself a hearing aid the other day. You can hardly see it – one of these new things. But essentially, I’ve had to, because I spent a lot of my younger life surfing in the eastern beaches of Sydney. The promotion of bone growth over the ear – there’s some kind of term for it – and they had to cut away the bone if I were to hear properly. And I thought, I don’t want my ear cut, so I’ll just leave it as it is at 67. But also too, I do attribute some of those early groups to my lack of hearing these days, because I did study for my exams with The Beatles, The Rolling Stones. Pretty much one of my favourite groups of all time was a group that spread, with different members going to different other groups, were The Byrds in America. Dylan songs. “Mr Tambourine”. Elizabeth:        Yes. Was it Eric – Eric somebody? Or did I get the wrong group. Michael:          We’re talking about David Crosby, Gene Clark, Jim McGuinn who changed his name and became Roger, or was it the other way round. But they had the Dylan. They came out with “Mr. Tambourine Man”. Elizabeth:        Yes, I know that song. Michael:          Their next one was ‘Turn, Turn, Turn’. Then they went into more Dylan of, “All I Really Want to Do”. And these are hits of the Sixties. Elizabeth:        You could sing a few bars. Michael:          No I couldn’t. Not even Dylan-style. (Laughter) But I love those songs, mainly because - Elizabeth:        They’re great. Michael:          Jim McGuinn had a 12-string guitar, and it was this jingly-jangly feel to their songs that I loved dearly. But another group which I must tell you, because I met up with them in real life, which is one of my favourite groups, is The Seekers. Elizabeth:        Oh! Miss Judith! Michael:          Now Keith Potger is a good mate of mine. We go for gentlemen’s clubs like Savage Club; he’s a member of Savage, enjoy long lunches, and often with some other guests. Elizabeth:        Athol Guy? Michael:          Yes. And Judith Durham – where you’re sitting there – came and sat down there with her manager a few years ago. Elizabeth:        My goodness! Michael:          She’d seen a presentation – Elizabeth:        She’s beautiful. Michael:          Oh, magnificent. And her voice! Elizabeth:        Angel. Michael:          Judith had seen a production by Garry Ginivan, who is one of the principal Australian children’s entrepreneurs for theatrics, theatres. He’s just finished doing Hazel E.’s Hippopotamus on the Roof kind of stuff, and I’m not sure if he’s doing Leigh Hobbs’ Horrible Harriet. Now that’s going to the Opera House. I’m not sure if Garry Ginivan’s doing that for Leigh. He did for Graeme Base. He did My Grandma Lived in Gooligulch, and also brought packaged stuff like Noddy and Toyland, Enid Blyton and other stuff like The Faraway Tree. So anyway he was presenting Puff the Magic Dragon – and I’m just looking around the room to find a graphic of the poster, because I’d designed Puff the Magic Dragon. Elizabeth:        Did you? Michael:          And they used that for all the promotional material and stuff there, but it was the puppet that I designed. And Judith went along to see – it was at The Athenaum Theatre here in Melbourne, a few years ago now. Elizabeth:        Lovely theatre. Michael:          And she liked the whole idea of the dragon, and she rang me. And so here was this most beautiful angel on the other line … Anyway, she was round a couple of days with her management. She was at that time – this was before The Seekers got back together and did all that magnificent tours they did over the last five or six years, Andre Rieu included. Judith is a honky-tonk girl; she loves the music of spiritual and going across to honky-tonk, like Scott Joplin, the ragtime, and all this sort of stuff. Elizabeth:        Oh, fun! Michael:          And she had written several things that she wanted the sheet music to be illustrated to sell, as part of the Judith Durham empire. And she did the ‘Banana Rag’. So immediately I did the illustration for her. I didn’t take any payment. I said, “Look, Judith, might I be impertinent and ask you to come to one of my clubs and sing – come to dinner?” She was a very strict vegetarian and looked after herself incredibly well after a terrible accident where she had to look after her whole system and she’s done that magnificently. So there she was singing, and this was when The Seekers had just released one of their LP’s, called “Morning Town Ride to Christmas”, which was for children’s songs, and there wasn’t a dry eye in the house of these senior gentlemen at the club I was talking about, one of these good old Melbourne clubs, when she sang “The Carnival’s Over”. Elizabeth:        Oh yes. Michael:          Absolutely superb, so that was more than enough payment for doing some artwork. But since then, I continued … and met the desperate Keith Potger. Elizabeth:        Weren’t you lucky. Weren’t you lucky. Weren’t you lucky to have that gorgeous woman. Michael:          I was lucky. I was lucky. But I had to tell you, Judith - they had an article on her website, and she’s on Facebook as well - had at that time recorded with The Lord Mayor’s Orchestra here in Melbourne. It was called “The Australian Cities Suite”, and she had written a song for every major city in Australia. And I remember she and I were trying to do a book together, a book based on a song that her husband – who passed on through, oh gosh, what was it – the wasting disease, muscular disease … Elizabeth:        MS? Muscular Dystrophy? Michael:          Muscular Dystrophy. I’m sure that must be it. He put in a song called “Billy the Bug and Sylvia Slug”, and so we put that into a book. And I took Judith along to see some of the heads of various publishing firms in Sydney as well as the head of ABC merchandising in their ivory tower down in Haymarket area. Beautiful beautiful premises they have there, ABC Studios. And so Judith was much heralded in both places when I took her as my guest to introduce this book to her. The book didn’t work unfortunately, but she did start singing in the car as we’d arrived early in the carpark of the ABC citadel in Haymarket. She started singing. And we were all sitting there. And she started singing songs again from The Seekers. Elizabeth:        I don’t think I’m ever going to stand up again. Michael:          So here we are in Kooyong, and there’s the beautiful strains of Judith Durham singing songs, and I thought, “It doesn’t get much better than this.” Elizabeth:        Oh wow. Michael:          I don’t think Deborah Harry could have done the same. Elizabeth:        Do you think Judith Durham would speak with me on this podcast? Michael:          Judith is a very accommodating person, and I’m sure that if you ask through her management, Graham her manager would – I’m sure - she would look at that favourably. Elizabeth:        Would I have to wear a ball gown? I have a couple. To meet the Queen. Michael:          Meet the Queen. (Laughter) But anyway, I suppose too, in my business – and Australia is not a huge place really, when it comes to who knows what and we talked before about the degrees of separation. Elizabeth:        Absolutely. Michael:          And so, a lot of my stuff has been … involved with, because of my work, a lot of singers and whatever via The Hat Books. I remember Russell Morris, not in this place but a previous place. Elizabeth:        “The Real Thing”? Michael:          “The Real Thing” Russell Morris. Brilliant, brilliant, and had the two LP’s as well. Elizabeth:        And Molly, Molly is attached to that – he produced it, didn’t he. Michael:          Yeah, but Russell Morris had this concept that he came up with his wife 30 years ago. It was about a toy that was pre-broken and you had to fix it. The whole idea of the toy was that you had to re-glue this broken toy. Elizabeth:        Right. Michael:          It was ceramic, and he was so keen on it, but I just didn’t think it was going to work. He was a man with an incredible imagination – Elizabeth:        Russell Morris? Michael:          Russell Morris. He had this toy concept, but it didn’t work, because I don’t think kids want to sit around re-gluing a toy that has been broken. I don’t know what he was on. Elizabeth:        He was quite resourceful. Michael:          Ah, he is. Look at the way Russell Morris has revived in recent times. And he’ll have to excuse me. I don’t remember, but I’ve certainly listened to his two LP’s – albums as we used to call them, back in the old days – that he did. All bluesy and whatever, and he’s still got a magnificent voice. Elizabeth:        You know, there are so many Australians that are not – what should I say – recognized as they should be, I think. And such talent. Michael:          Ah, yeah. Elizabeth:        And do you think we need to go overseas, like in the old day. I was listening to a program last night, actually, and Brian Cadd was on it. Love Brian Cadd. Beautiful, beautiful music. And he said you know, back in the day you had to go to London. Michael:          Yes, yes. Well, look at Easybeats and stuff like that. Elizabeth:        Do you think people need to go? Michael:          Brian Cadd and The (Bootleg) Family (Band), that’s what he calls his group, they are reappearing at – they are doing an Australian tour this month in February – I saw it on Facebook, actually. Elizabeth:        You know, a friend of mine who’s a pastel artist, highly acclaimed – we were talking about this, and she said in this country, she’s just not recognized and she really needs … She’s working in a boutique! Michael:          It is a problem. You know on Facebook, which is one of the loves of my life, you see a good deal of Australian up-and-coming authors and illustrators, and ones that you dearly wish would … And I do believe that you if you earn it, you deserve a place in the sun – your ten minutes, twelve minutes of fame, all that kind of stuff. And if you’re smart enough, after your time has been, you then start doing things which reinvent yourself. I’m not talking about Madonna-style, but I’m talking about coming up with new things, being aware of new trends and seeing whether you can adapt your talents. Elizabeth:        Being a survivor. Michael:          Being a survivor, absolutely. Because let’s face it, and I’m very grateful – for example, the schools around Australia – 45 years… Elizabeth:        I’m sure they’re grateful to you too. Michael:          I go into the schools and there are teachers there that say, “Look, the last time I saw you Michael, was when I was in Prep or Grade One, and I loved your books then and I still love them." I’m just so thankful. Elizabeth:        How do you feel, other than gratitude? Michael:          Well, this is one of those major things, of feedback you get. And some of them come up and say “I started drawing because of you drawing”. Elizabeth:        You’re inspirational! Michael:          There are just those things there that I … and also entertaining. Doing a bit of stand-up comedy, giving out very silly prizes like Barbie books to Grade Six boys for good behaviour. I know Preppies will never forget those things. Elizabeth:        Can you talk us through – when you present to the school, how do you do that? Michael:          This year I’ve got a ‘Michael Salmon’s Monster Show’ which is talking about more or less the same thing, but some different pictures to ones I’ve been doing before. Essentially what I realized right at the start is if I do some speed cartooning, right in the very first picture I draw there, and do it so quickly in a great show-off manner, you get the kids hooked.  Elizabeth:        It’s magic; it’s in front of us. Michael:          Because the little ones, they say “Look what he did! Look how fast he drew!” And I always knew that that particular facet, if you did it correctly, the little Preppies in the front – because we do try to get mixed grades, with the Grade Sixes at the back – is that you would have their attention if you kept on. So I sort of talked about the way I invented characters and how it happened. Bobo my dog who is not here today – dear Bobo in the book I wrote called Bobo My Super Dog, where I sort of – he saves the world a bit. Elizabeth:        Of course he would. (Laughter) Michael:          Oh, I don’t know. Let’s just go back to the bit about Australia and the people who are trying to make it, and they are doing their very best and you see their brilliant talent. And it’s very evident on Facebook – it’s one of my major purveyors of talent – the ideas that people come up with and all that sort of stuff. I mean, you’ve got some brilliant people here in Australia. You look at Leigh Hobbs for a start. Now he belongs to the Savage Club as I do, so I catch up with him for lunch on occasions. And there he is with his two-year tenure in his position championing children’s books and children’s literature around Australia. His cartoons are very much like Ronald Searle, the famous British cartoonist, who did the original cartoons that accompanied the original published books and also the film versions of St Trinian’s movies, of schoolgirls and things like that – the naughty schoolgirls. And Ronald Searle was a brilliant, brilliant artist, and he had the kind of nuttiness in his cartooning that Leigh Hobbs had. You look at Leigh Hobbs’ stuff – they are very, very sparse, great placement of colour, they are done in a very slapdash manner. It all works together beautifully – from Horrible Harriet, to Old Tom and whatever. And if you’ve got other people – what’s that book by Aaron Blabey – something or other Pug? (Pig the Pug) I bought some books for my very young grandchildren for Christmas, and I thought, “I haven’t seen these books before.” And here he is winning awards and YABBA (Young Australians Best Book Awards) Awards and all this kind of stuff. And so much talent around. And it’s hard in Australia to make a living as an author, because the royalties and stuff, even if you are one of the top ones, may suffice for a while but aren’t continuing. Elizabeth:        And yet Michael you’ve done that – for 50 years – haven’t you. Michael:          Only because of schools. 45 years in schools and 50 years in the arts. But mainly because I branched out and did things like theatre – the television show. You saw when you first entered the merchandise for 'Alexander Bunyip'. Spotlight stores were behind me for fabrics for a decade, and they finished not a huge many years ago. And that had nothing to do with 'Alexander Bunyip'. But the fact of really, of diversifying. Elizabeth:        Okay. Michael:          And the books for me lay a platform. When Mum or Dad read a book at night to their children, and it happens to be one of yours, and it’s something they like, and they happen to be one of the lead buyers of Spotlight stores and they say “We must do something about this guy”, and they came round and sat where you’re sitting, and they said “We’d like to offer you a deal.” And I thought, “Oh thank you. That’s great!” Elizabeth:        But can I interject? The vital part of that is certainly that there is talent and diversification, but it’s also the ability to connect with people - which you are very skilled at. And the warmth that you have … Michael:          Well, thanks to my mother, because she was a people person. Yes, you’re quite right – it does help to be a people person if you’re an artistic person. Of course sometimes it doesn’t flow. Some of the best children’s authors are not people persons. So you can’t expect to do anything. I learned long ago of creating an impact on your audience – start and hold them if you can from then on, and then you can impart any message you want. And the only message I really impart to the children is about developing their creativity, for them to start working on the things they’re good at, or keep drawing or singing or whatever it may be. Elizabeth:        I really want to segue into something from those comments about your work for the Alannah and Madeline Foundation. That is so, so pivotal. Can we talk about that? Michael:          Yes. Do you know, in general terms, it’s really good if you’ve had success, I’ve found, especially in the arts, to find venues and areas and avenues to give back to society. I hope that doesn’t sound too corny. Elizabeth:        It sounds beautiful. Michael:          Up here, I’ve got some – when I was one of the patrons of “Life Be In It” for the Victorian – Elizabeth:        Oh yes! Michael:          And I designed – not the vans, those large pantechnicon vans that went around and advertised anti-drugs and – Elizabeth:        It was Norm, wasn’t it. Norm. Michael:          Norm was “Life Be In It”. This was the Life Education Centre, the one started up by Ted Knox at King’s Cross Chapel, but they went to a huge thing. Large pantechnicon trailers filled with the latest kind of things, and all round Australia, but particularly in Victoria – because that’s where my expertise was, helping them design big wheels to go on, painted by local mums and dads. And I also do it to do some fundraising. But Life Education had a Harold Giraffe as their logo, and it’s still going gangbusters. So these things would go to schools, and like the dental van they locked you in that, and they would see these incredible digital displays of bodies and drugs and anti-drugs, things like that. Magnificent, magnificent. That was one thing I was involved in. A good mate of mine, a school librarian called Marie Stanley, who’s since not a school teacher anymore – a school librarian – she rang up soon after 1996 when the horrific Port Arthur thing had occurred. She had been seconded – Walter Mikac, whose wife Nanette and two daughters Alannah and Madeline were shot dead – he knew he had to do something. So he went to see the Victorian Premier at that stage, Steve Bracks, and also saw John Howard. And between them he got funding to set up a St Kilda Road office and start the Alannah and Madeline Foundation which is purely there to help the victims of violent crime – the families, the children – provide them with some kind of accommodation or support or clothing, needs, or toiletries – a whole range of stuff there. So they seconded Marie Stanley from Williamstown North Primary School. Because I’d visited her school many times, she rang me up and said, “Look, Michael, I’m doing this, I’m on salary, but I need your help. Could you help me invent a character?” So I came on board with Alannah and Madeline (Foundation) on a purely voluntary basis, which is my pleasure, and we invented a character called Buddy Bear as a very safe little bear and a spokes figure, whereby – and there are behind me as we speak in this interview – there are Buddy Bear chocolates up there. And they did something like five million chocolates with my name and my design on it through Coles stores and Target stores … Elizabeth:        You know Michael, next time we meet I need a camera. (Laughter) Michael:          That’s just 'Buddy Bear' stuff. And 'Buddy Bear' has gone on strongly and it’s now part of the Alannah and Madeline Foundation. But they got involved in a very important … the main focus of anti-bullying. And I was the person – I want to say one thing, because it’s true – I suggested that they should go – violence and all this stuff for families was terrible enough – but if they wanted to go to the bully, they really should get into the heart of the matter. And to me, I said to them once, “Look, please. I’ve seen what we’re doing. We’ve got Buddy Bear as the spokes figure for violence in the home. But we really should be hitting schools and things with something that centers around bullying and have an anti-bullying campaign. And you know, it is one of those things which is said at the right time and the right place. And now we’ve got Princess Mary of Denmark who is the international head of 'Buddy Bear' and they’ve got their own thing over there because of her Australian connection with Tasmania. We have the National Bank who are the sponsors of the 'Buddy Bear' program of the Alannah and Madeline (Foundation), so we have a fully-fledged charity. But the early days of inventing 'Buddy Bear', and a lot of people who gave their time and effort for no cost as I did, and pleasure to get the whole thing going. But it was all through initially Walter Mikac, thinking that with his deceased wife and two little girls, he had to do something. He was a pharmacist by trade and he was a smart man – he is a smart man – and he set the wheels in motion. And so it was a - ‘pleasure’ is not the right word. It was satisfying to be involved with a program that was ultimately going to help children feel better and safe and especially with this bullying thing, of being able to … Elizabeth:        Personally, I love fundraising and I do a lot of it. And actually we have on the agenda this year a fundraiser for another children’s author: Pat Guest. His son Noah, and Noah has Duchenne’s Muscular Dystrophy, and the family need a wheelchair-accessible vehicle. Michael:          Yes, yes, yes. Elizabeth:        Pat’s a wonderful person. He’s published five books and counting, and has written one about Noah called That’s What Wings Are For. He has actually podcasted with me. So I’m going to put you on the spot now and ask you if you would like to create something – Michael:          Absolutely! Let me know … Elizabeth:        I haven’t even finished my sentence! Michael:          No, no, no, the answer’s yes. The answer’s yes. Elizabeth:        The generosity! Thank you. Michael:          No, no, my pleasure. You talk about the – do you pronounce it ‘Duchenne’? There was a very famous fundraiser with that society up in Cairns several years ago, where various artists and musicians and illustrators were asked to provide – and they said a ukulele – so you had very famous artists and musicians and illustrators creating and painting their own version on this practical ukulele that was sent back to Cairns and auctioned off for charity and raised a whole lot of money. Elizabeth:        You know Pat, I think, would love to meet you. And I know Noah – the whole family are just beautiful people. Michael:          But I’ll have you know, only because of that connection where they contacted me saying “Would you like to …” and I had no knowledge whatever of the disease and the toll it took. Elizabeth:        I’ve nursed a couple of boys with it. Michael:          From my recollection, would it be quite correct to say it’s quite gender-specific? It hits boys more than girls? Elizabeth:        Yes. The two children that I nursed were brothers, and they passed. So we want to focus on the positive side, and this Saturday, actually there’s a trivia night which is sold out – Michael:          Oh good! Good, good. Elizabeth:        And it’s Eighties music which is my thing – I love that – so hopefully I will win, everybody. Don’t bet on me, Michael, but if there was a ticket, I’d invite you. But we’re looking at later in the year and we have some great people. Dave O’Neil wants to do a spot – Michael:          Oh yeah, good, good, good. Elizabeth:        And he podcasted with me. And like yourself, pretty much before I got my sentence out, he said 'yes'. Robyn Payne whom I wrote my song with for my children’s book – she wants to write a song. So we’ve got many … and Robyn Payne was in Hey Hey, It’s Saturday for many years. She was in that band, and Robyn’s incredible – she plays eight instruments. Michael:          Right, right, yes, yes. Elizabeth:        She’s performed at the Grand Final; incredibly talented lady. I just ran into her the other night with Neil, her husband, and Steph who’s a good friend of mine and recently performed with her on stage as well, they’re looking at writing a song for Noah. So it’s taking off. Michael:          One of the best fundraisers I’ve been to is a yearly event – still going – the Alannah and Madeline (Foundation) did. I don’t keep in contact with them directly; it was just a pleasure to work in, but what they did at the Palladium Ballroom – have 'Starry Starry Night'. Now 'Starry Starry Night' would have almost anyone who’s anyone in show business, on television and the media, would be there, from the jockeys at Melbourne Cup who would be singing Village People and whatever. Quite brilliant. And they had a huge host. We’re talking about – and I’m not exaggerating – 50 or so celebrities attended that. Black Night night and it really was a “starry starry night”. I haven’t attended for a long time, but I did my duty and it was a great pleasure to be there and part of it. But that was a brilliant fundraiser, and still continues as a fundraiser for the Alannah and Madeline Foundation. Elizabeth:        Oh, I’m so honoured that you said yes to me before I even finished my sentence. Thank you so much! Talking about stars, I’d like to go to my signature question, and then we’ll say adieu to you. Michael, this is a signature question I ask all my guests: what do you wish for, for the world, and most importantly for yourself? Michael:          Well, as we’re sitting here in early February of 2017, because of all these incredible events that are going on every quarter of the day from the United States there, where the world order seems to be rapidly changing, and oddities occurring there and without going into it too heavily we all know what we’re talking about, I have a hope that the situation in America remedies itself, and that the situations change rapidly, and that America gets back, because as the biggest country in the world for what it is and known as, because we need the stability of America etcetera, so it’s a fairly direct sort of wish that America gets its act together again soon, and maintains something that we can trust in. Because America really is being that main country in the world. Elizabeth:        Do you see a way – does that start one person at a time? Is that how things start to change? Michael:          Gosh, as we’ve evidenced with the Women’s March and a whole range of stuff now that the immigration – oh dear – it just goes on, goes on. And without going into a full-scale discussion of that, my wish is that America gets back together quickly, and maintains and gets someone new in charge. I don’t know how that’s going to happen – impeachment or … but something has to happen, so that the world can feel stable again. And that’s not grandiose, but that’s probably affecting a lot of people in the world. As every new edict or special signatory thing is signed in the White House, the ripples it sends across for instability is quite amazing. We’ve never seen it before, unless you were there during Chamberlain days when Neville Chamberlain was talking to Hitler, and some of those – not grandiose or high-flying stuff, but it does affect especially Aussies who love America dearly, and America loves us. Elizabeth:        But to me your books so beautifully reflect history. Michael:          Some of them do, some of them do. It’s like a Facebook page – I really do love entertaining people and making them laugh. And that’s probably the last part of your question – I really would like every child in the mass audiences I encounter, we’re talking about 500 or so -  I would like to think that every child had an opportunity – not because of anything to do with my talk that may be instrumental , it doesn’t really matter – the children of today can reach their potential, and the energy and the talents they have are recognized. Not squashed, quashed, forgotten, put to one side by society or families, issues, whatever it may be. Elizabeth:        You know, that reminds me of a good friend of mine, Andrew Eggelton. So Andrew Eggelton is an interesting man – he’s a New Zealander actually; he’s a Kiwi – and he believes in the Art of Play. So his wish is that everybody gets to use their God-given talents. Michael:          Ditto, ditto, absolutely. Because you do see the children out there. Just to give you an example: I spoke to close to 12,000 children during a tour that I organized myself – I do have some other agents organizing other states … Elizabeth:        How do you look after your throat? Michael:          Thank goodness I’ve always had a voice that can throw – a loud voice – I was captain of a rugby team in my machismo days. I was in New Zealand, and as a front row forward you don’t usually have a shy, retiring kind of personality. When you go out to tour, and on that tour we toured everything around the Riverina, we did places like West Wyalong, places you normally drive through as you are going up the back roads to Dubbo or some place like that. Then we went to Sydney, the western suburbs schools, and even this morning I had a phone call from one of the agents for a school near Loganlea. The school called and they want a couple of sessions. Most of their students are refugees with English ESL, so English Second Language. I would say English third or fourth language. Elizabeth:        How many children at that school? Michael:          Seven hundred. She said – the agent who rang me – and this is the first one in the tour that’s coming up late July for southeastern Queensland – “The reason no doubt that you’ve been invited to this particular school” which I know well, is because my act is highly visual. You don’t need a lot of language to understand it, because I draw all the cartoons. Or I’m caricaturing children, or getting them to caricature me. It’s almost like – ‘international language’ is not the right phrase – but it’s almost like a human comedy or whatever you call it. Elizabeth:        It’s like smiling. Michael:          It’s like smiling, and the more the merrier. So up there you’ve got the refugee children. You’ve got a lot of – and I really enjoy going to the Tongan or Samoan or Fijian or Maori schools or New Zealand, because I used to play rugby and I played with so many Islanders over the years and I’ve got some good mates there. And especially up there in southern parts of Brisbane, before you hit the Gold Coast, it’s always challenging, and I love to go up there, so it’s great to hear that. And the same thing applies to Indigenous schools up on the Gulf of Carpentaria, they call them, the Gulf Savannah schools up in Cape York, where you go to places like Weipa and stuff like that. And some of the notorious – notorious because of the troubles that have occurred – there’s a couple of places along the Peninsula there – they are trouble spots and have been for many years. Elizabeth:        You know Michael, that just says so much about you, because so many people would not go within cooee of those places, and it reflects your beautiful generosity. So I want to thank you very much for guesting on Writers’ Tête-à-Tête with Elizabeth Harris. And I think we need a Part Two. It’s been an absolute delight and thank you so much. Michael:          Thank you very much, and thank you Serena too. I babbled on a bit, but fifty years – fifty years of working in this country – there’s been a lot of water under the bridge. A lot of people, a lot of children, and I’m just very lucky. I consider myself very lucky to be in that position, to have that rapport with kids, and to just get on with them and entertain them and enjoy them. Elizabeth:        I consider those children and us very, very lucky to have met you today. Thank you so much. Michael:          Thank you guys. Thank you. [END OF TRANSCRIPT]

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