Podcasts about dialectical behavioral therapy

Join this informative and engaging conversation with Diana Partington, licensed professional counselor in Nashville, Tennessee, and author of DBT for Life. Diana shares the philosophy behind Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and how every person can benefit from DBT. DBT was founded in 1993 by Dr. Marsha Linehan and became popular around 2010. Diana shares how DBT is a powerful treatment for suicidal thoughts and ideation, depression, borderline personality disorder, anxiety, bipolar disorder, substance abuse, and eating disorders. Diana talks about how her own life events and battle with suicidal thoughts led her to DBT as a client and the transformative power of the tool kit she took from it. Diana wrote DBT For Life to be user-friendly; something that people could consume in bite-sized chunks and enter in the most helpful way for the reader. The book is full of illustrations and stories of applying DBT skills. Diana dives into the four tenets of DBT therapy and takes the listeners through an example. Diana also runs groups online (https://dbtforlife.com/) and hosts a podcast called Suffering Optional (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffering-optional/id1767018426). DBT For Life can be purchased here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Life-Skills-transform-Lotus/dp/B0CW2ZKB5S

In this episode, we dive into the complex relationship between needs and wants, especially in the context of fitness and health. By exploring various philosophical perspectives, we examine how "need" can mean different things—from survival necessities to living an optimal life. Drawing from Kantian ethics, we pose the thought-provoking idea that a life focused only on needs is empty, while a life centered solely on wants is blind. We also explore the tension between biological needs and desires, discussing how lower-order wants (like junk food or laziness) clash with higher-order needs (such as genuine relaxation and social connection). Using insights from Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and Maslow's hierarchy, we consider how balancing both needs and wants is crucial for a fulfilling life—especially in the modern world, where survival no longer demands physical exertion but emotional and psychological fulfillment still does.

Trust is knowing that our bodies are living intelligences, giving us immediate feedback about what does and doesn't work for us. When we stop viewing our bodies as something we need to manipulate, we can begin seeing them as very wise teachers. When we start to trust our bodies, we can listen and understand what they need. Jenny Sederholm, LCSW While I have been a Licensed Clinical Social Worker for 14 years, life quieted and expanded for me eleven years ago when I was intensively trained in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. I co facilitated a DBT Yearlong program for three years at Kaiser Permanente while training clinicians in DBT skills and principles.  Through DBT, my perceptions were blown to pieces as I practiced intentional awareness, mindfulness and ever present dialectics. I also came to appreciate the functional power of life skills and understanding the purpose of our emotions.My life journey has since brought me to the Willa Wellness team. Here, I am honored to share with and grow alongside those whom are struggling with eating disorders. Through our work together, we strive to uncover the worn out stories that keep us from the freedoms that are our birthright. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Rev. Miriam Diephouse-McMillan (she/her) is a board certified chaplain serving in a psychiatric hospital where she sees first-hand the ways that mental health and spiritual care collide. In this powerful episode, Miriam shares stories about the ways caring for people's spiritual wellbeing can come alongside the medical care folks receive, and can transform lives, offering space for healing and hope.About MiriamMiriam works and writes at the intersection of Spirituality and Mental Health.  She loves exploring big questions of meaning, hope, and connection that shape our faith and well-being.  Miriam has been a chaplain at an inpatient psychiatric hospital for over 12 years.  She provides spiritual care and counseling to people with a wide variety of mental health concerns and helps them explore how spirituality can enhance their well-being.  She is a graduate of Princeton Theological Seminary, an ordained minister in the Presbyterian Church (USA), and a Board Certified Chaplain.  Her additional certificate in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy allows her to teach skills for managing difficult emotions and maintaining a fulfilling life.Be sure to check out Miriam's new book, Sacred Balance, coming May 2025 and visit her website for even more resources and webinars.Connect with us!Donate today and support our work!Sign up to receive a little Gospel in your inbox every Monday Morning with our weekly devotional.Join our FREE bookclubCheck out our website for various resources - including devotionals, journaling prompts, and even curriculumGet some Lady Preacher Podcast swag!Connect with us on Instagram and Facebook

BWH YOUTUBE: www.youtube.com/@bwh_pod DBT? What's that you might ask? In short, it stands for Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and in words of todays guest Mariah Covington, DBT helps you to change the things you can and accept the things you can't. You have to listen to the full episode to get the details on all the benefits of this specific therapy treatment. You gotta go listen

Feeling overwhelmed by course creation? You're not alone! In this episode, Tracy Sherriff sits down with Samantha Foote, a board-certified music therapist and positive discipline parent educator, to explore how to create impactful courses while supporting neurodivergent families.Samantha owns and operates Boise Music Therapy Company and has helped hundreds of children gain independence and learn coping skills with her approach. With over 18 years of experience working with neurodivergent children and their families, Samantha uses her training in Neurologic Music Therapy and Dialectical Behavioral Therapy to help clients navigate home and school life with confidence. When she is not working, she enjoys outdoor adventures with her family. Free Gift:How to Stop Meltdownshttps://www.boisemusictherapycompany.com/parenting-tipsConnect with Samantha www.facebook.com/everybrainisdifferentwww.instagram.com/everybrainisdifferentwww.tiktok.com/everybrainisdifferenthttps://www.youtube.com/@samanthafootemusictherapistWould you like to deliver your own private podcast feed to your audience? Sign up for a free trial today at Hello Audio.

In this thought-provoking episode of The Dude Therapist, Eli Weinstein sits down with Dr. Judy, a renowned clinical and forensic neuropsychologist, to dive deep into the power of self-talk and how our attachment styles shape our present-day behaviors. Dr. Judy sheds light on the long-lasting impact of past experiences, offering insights into why we act the way we do and how balanced thinking can lead to transformative healing—at any age. Together, they tackle the often misunderstood world of disorganized attachment, uncover practical coping strategies, and provide actionable tips to turn those nagging negative thoughts into empowering positive actions. Whether you're seeking healing or understanding, this episode has something for everyone! BIO: Dr. Judy Ho, Ph. D., ABPP, ABPdN, is a triple board certified and licensed Clinical and Forensic Neuropsychologist, a tenured Associate Professor at Pepperdine University, and a published author, penning “Stop Self-Sabotage,” published by HarperCollins in August 2019; a book detailing a scientifically driven six-step program which has been translated into 7 additional languages around the world. Her second book, which she co-authored with Max Dubrow, entitled "I'll Give it to Your Straight-ish: What Your Teen Wants You to Know," is published by Flashpoint and contains Dr. Judy's evidence-based tips to help parents raise healthy and resilient teenagers. Dr. Judy's third book, The New Rules of Attachment, which focuses on healing insecure attachment styles at any age to optimize well-being, career, goal attainment, and relationships with family, friends, and colleagues, was published by Hachette Book Group in March 2024. Dr. Judy maintains a private practice in Manhattan Beach, CA where she specializes in comprehensive neuropsychological assessments and expert witness work. She regularly appears as an expert psychologist on television, podcasts, and radio and contributes to other media, including print and electronic periodicals. She was a co-host on the syndicated daytime television talk show “The Doctors,” co-host of CBS's Face the Truth, and host of The SuperCharged Life podcast, which focuses on scientific, tangible tips for physical and mental wellness and strategies for motivation and productivity, produced by Stage 29 Podcast Productions. Dr. Judy Ho is an avid researcher and two-time recipient of the National Institute of Mental Health Services Research Award. She hosts an active research program to improve mental health care for high-need populations and is the chair of the Institutional Review Board at Pepperdine University. Her treatment approaches integrate the scientific principles of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. She often speaks at national and local events including research, clinical, and corporate conferences and workshops for organizations and schools. Dr. Judy received her bachelor's degrees in Psychology and Business Administration from UC Berkeley, and her masters and doctorate from SDSU/UCSD Joint Doctoral Program in Clinical Psychology. She completed a National Institute of Mental Health sponsored fellowship at UCLA's Semel Institute. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thedudetherapist/support

After today's episode, head on over to @therapybookspodcast to learn about the latest giveaway.   If you are enjoying these episodes and would like to support the podcast, please leave us a 5-star review. *The information shared in thie podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. In this weeks episode, Jessica Fowler interviews Dylan Zambrano, MSW about his book the DBT Skills Daily Journal: 10 Minutes a Day to Soothe Your Emotions with Dialectical Behavioral Therapy.   Highlights from this episode include:   3:50 Dylan begins to share about the DBT Skills Journal 4:20 Dylan shares about DBT and what type of therapy it is and who it is helpful for. 9:55 Dylan shares the value of the skills. 12:09 Research on journaling. 13:26 What is in the book. 19:38 Some examples from the book. About the author: Dylan Zambrano, MSW is the founder and clinical director of DBT Virtual, an online dialectical behavior therapy practice servicing multiple Canadian provinces. He has several years of experience working on a DBT team within an outpatient mental health hospital setting, and provides DBT training, consultation and supervision to mental health therapists organizations. He is the author of The DBT Skills Daily Journal, a book that combines guided journaling with DBT skills-building. Dylan also teaches courses in mindfulness and compassion meditation at the University of Toronto.

Dr. Greg Chasson talks about Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, or DBT. DBT is a type of talk therapy (psychotherapy). It's based on cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), but it's specially adapted for people who experience emotions very intensely.“Dialectical” means combining opposite ideas. DBT focuses on helping people accept the reality of their lives and their behaviors, as well as helping them learn to change their lives, including their unhelpful behaviors.Dialectical behavior therapy was developed in the 1970s by Marsha Linehan, an American psychologist.

Erica Curry is a former NCAA Division 1 athlete turned licensed therapist.  Erica is now focused on helping other athletes with their mental health and post sport life.  Erica specialize in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and Radically Open Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. DBT focuses on mindfulness, communication, emotion regulation and distress tolerance skills. RO-DBT consists of skills to help the perfectionistic person and/or athlete relax. Find out more on The Village Vision Podcast. Connect with Erica at PsychologyToday.com and on LinkedIn, Instagram and TikTok. Dr. Crystal G. Morrison is a highly regarded executive advisor, strategist, leader, scientist, tech entrepreneur, dedicated to improving outcomes for children with special needs by building collaboration and communication among adults providing care.  She create the Village Vision podcast to celebrate their stories and ignite action. Follow at TheVillageVision.com and on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and YouTube. Dr. Crystal Morrison along with Jeannette Paxia, bring you “SUPERHEROES on the Spectrum.”  Please support UnsilencedVoices.org.     WordofMomRadio.com 

If you've ever felt like you hate your job, relationship, living situation, or whatever – but you feel stuck, then you're going to love today's episode as Happily Hired Formula Coach Megan Myers and I have a deep conversation about what you can do to get unstuck.From practical advice broken down into a step-by-step strategy, we hope you feel empowered to make an energetic shift and commitment to what you want to do.Feeling stuck often is seen when you've lost your mojo which is just when you can no longer see the possibilities that reside within you and/or around you. The best part? It's curable!ABOUT MEGAN MYERS: Megan is a licensed therapist (LCMHC) based in Asheville, NC, with a passion for guiding individuals to clarity, particularly in their careers. With a focus on trauma processing, anxiety reduction, and confidence-building, she helps clients improve their sense of self and relationships. Megan's expertise in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and EMDR supports mindfulness, emotional regulation, and effective trauma processing. Prior to founding Envision Balance Counseling & Consulting, Megan gained experience in both a Dialectical Behavioral Therapy Center and in Corporate Human Resources. TIME STAMPS:00:00 Unlocking the Path to Emotional Freedom00:25 Welcome to Cultivate Your Joyful Life01:13 Navigating Career Dissatisfaction: Insights and Solutions02:41 Introducing the Happily Hired Formula: Transform Your Career04:57 Exploring Career Clarity and Making Meaningful Changes06:36 Deep Dive with Megan Myers: Understanding and Overcoming Stuckness13:13 Embracing Emotional Processing: The First Step to Unstuckness23:15 Addressing Fear and Limiting Beliefs in Career Transitions27:08 The Power of Parts Work in Personal Growth29:51 Exploring Emotional Parts and Moving Forward31:07 Navigating Job Dissatisfaction and Seeking Change34:23 Personal Anecdote: House Hunting and Acceptance37:14 Embracing Acceptance and Making Changes42:33 The Myth of Perfection in Jobs and Life44:59 Acceptance and Commitment: Living in Alignment with Values46:41 The Power of Presentness and Body Awareness56:00 Confronting Job Search Challenges with Support01:01:39 Final Thoughts and Workshop AnnouncementLISTEN TO THESE EPISODES NEXTEp. 003: How to Find Your Life Purpose w/ Rachel EastEp. 006: Believing in Yourself When Life Gets Tough w/ Suraiyah OrtizEp. 007: How to give yourself permission to pivotLINKSMegan Meyer's Website: https://www.envisionbalancecounseling.com/RSVP to the FREE Land Your Dream job MasterclassRSVP to the Career Clarity WorkshopRSVP to the Happily Hired Formula WaitlistFollow me on InstagramLeave me a comment on our blog

Welcome to the Gladden Longevity podcast, where we unravel the complexities of women's health, mental well-being, and holistic care. In this episode, Dr. Gladden speaks with Alicia Patterson. Alicia Patterson is a mental health counselor and women's pelvic health specialist in Denver. On top of years in the emergency mental health field, Alicia also holds additional training in EMDR therapy and other trauma-oriented tools, Dance Movement Therapy, Body Psychotherapy, visceral manipulation, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, crisis assessment and remediation, attachment, perinatal psychology, Gestalt & transpersonal psychology, and more holistic models balancing the medical and alternative healing fields. Alicia provides various services, including specialized individual counseling, holistic pelvic care, practitioner training, professional mentorship, and more. Each episode explores trauma-informed care, pelvic health, somatic work, and more. Recognizing the limitations of modern systems, we emphasize that women's health and mental well-being require comprehensive approaches beyond convention. Our mission is to empower through education, encouraging women to advocate for themselves in healthcare decisions. Three key points drive our discussions, urging listeners to address health needs promptly, embrace preventative care, and act urgently when attention is essential. Join us on a journey of empowerment and self-care at the Gladden Longevity podcast.   To know more about Alicia: Website: https://www.alicianpatterson.com/ Email: apattersoninfo@gmail.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/aliciapattersonthx/  @aliciapattersonthx   Affiliate Link/Code: Complimentary consultation for anyone interested in a program at https://www.alicianpatterson.com/store

Dr Judy Ho has a new book entitled The New Rules of Attachment: How to Heal Your Relationships, Reparent Your Inner Child, and Secure Your Life Vision. It's one of those books which explain to us, in our therapeutic age of intense anxiety, how to stop f*****g ourselves up. Yeah, I know. These kinds of books, by “clinical and forensic neuropsychologists” like the telegenic Judy Ho, can be intensely annoying. But, as an proven expert in f*****g up one's life, I rather liked Dr Judy's arguments about “reparenting our inner child” and securing our “life vision”. And I was particularly intrigued by her theory of “Dialectical Behavioral Therapy” - a particularly wild Jungian child of Marx's parental principle of dialectical materialism.Dr. Judy Ho, Ph. D., ABPP, ABPdN is a triple board certified and licensed Clinical and Forensic Neuropsychologist, a tenured Associate Professor at Pepperdine University, and published author. She penned Stop Self-Sabotage (published by HarperCollins in August 2019), a book detailing a scientifically driven six-step program which has been translated into 7 additional languages around the world. Her second book, co-authored with Max Dubrow, titled I'll Give it to Your Straight-ish: What Your Teen Wants You to Know, was published by Flashpoint in November 2021 and contains Dr. Judy's evidence-based tips to help parents raise healthy and resilient teenagers. Dr. Judy's third book, The New Rules of Attachment, which focuses on healing insecure attachment styles at any age to optimize well-being, career, goal attainment, and relationships with family, friends, and colleagues, published by Hachette Book Group in March 2024. Dr. Judy maintains a private practice in Manhattan Beach, CA where she specializes in comprehensive neuropsychological assessments and expert witness work. She regularly appears as an expert psychologist on television, podcasts, radio, and contributes to other media including print and electronic periodicals. She was a co-host on the syndicate daytime television talk show The Doctors, co-host of CBS's Face the Truth, and host of The SuperCharged Life podcast. Dr. Judy Ho is an avid researcher and a two-time recipient of the National Institute of Mental Health Services Research Award. She teaches masters and doctoral level psychology students, hosts an active research program to improve mental health care for high-need populations, and is the chair of the Institutional Review Board at Pepperdine University. Her treatment approaches integrate the scientific principles of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. She is a sought after keynote speaker and educator for national and local events including research, clinical, and corporate conferences and workshops for businesses, organizations, and schools.Named as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.Keen On is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keenon.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Laurel talks with Molly Fitzgerald King, a licensed art therapist and licensed professional counselor. They talk not only about Molly's clinical work, but about the advocacy work she is doing on many different levels, about our understanding of advocacy as professionals, and even our understanding of the narratives that play out for us as professionals in our own lives. Molly specializes in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and treats individuals with addiction, trauma disorders, depression, and anxiety. Her primary focus is Autism Spectrum Disorder. Molly uses shame resilience methods and mindful self compassion, and loves to incorporate art, dance, yoga, and music into her work. She strives to make mindfulness skills more accessible for people who struggle with sitting still, and to help people find environments where they can thrive. This includes work, school, home, nutrition, movement, creative outlets, relationships, and hobbies. She believes most symptoms bubble up when our environment can't meet our needs but we still feel stuck there. She focuses on many body based techniques designed to reduce activation.Molly is the writer of the upcoming play “Asking Toddlers to Do Algebra,” which will debut in the city of Louisville, KY from July 25th-27th, 2024. She is also the originator of Braxton's Bill, a bill currently in process in the Kentucky State Legislature, focused on mandating long-term substance use inpatient treatment coverage.Where to find Molly:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/molly-fitzgerald-king-louisville-ky/767152Support our show: https://www.patreon.com/academyimhGet in touch: https://www.academyimh.comTake a course: learn.academyimh.Support the showPlease share your voice with us! We would love to hear from you! Record a voice message here. Send us a comment here.Apply to be a guest on this podcast here. Would you like to share your work with the Conscious Mental Health Community ? We offer both paid and free sponsorship opportunities. To apply click here.

Dr. McFillin and Dr. Ahmad discuss what they have been witnessing in adolescent clients post-pandemic. Is phone addiction and social media, particularly platforms like Snapchat, Instagram, and TikTok, harming teens' mental health, especially when it comes to body image, self-esteem, and social anxiety? This podcast episode explores this question, along with the concerning trend of self-diagnosis and labeling normal teenage experiences with mental health conditions. Are schools and emergency rooms equipped to properly evaluate and diagnose mental health issues in adolescents? And is there an overreliance on medication as a solution? A call for parental involvement, including setting boundaries around phone use is highlighted and a critical reevaluation of the current mental health system for teenagers. It's time to move towards a more nuanced approach that validates teenagers' struggles and builds skills for living. Note: This podcast episode is designed solely for informational and educational purposes, without endorsing or promoting any specific medical treatments. We strongly advise consulting with a qualified healthcare professional before making any medical decisions or taking any actions.*If you are in crisis or believe you have an emergency, please contact your doctor or dial 911. If you are contemplating suicide, call 1-800-273-TALK to speak with a trained and skilled counselor.RADICALLY GENUINE PODCASTDr. Roger McFillin / Radically Genuine WebsiteYouTube @RadicallyGenuineDr. Roger McFillin (@DrMcFillin) / X (Twitter)Substack | Radically Genuine | Dr. Roger McFillinInstagram @radicallygenuineContact Radically GenuinePLEASE SUPPORT OUR PARTNERS15% Off Pure Spectrum CBD (Code: RadicallyGenuine)—-----------FREE DOWNLOAD! DISTRESS TOLERANCE SKILLS—----------ADDITIONAL RESOURCES4:00 - Dialectical Behavioral Therapy for Adolescents (DBT-A): a clinical Trial for Patients with suicidal and self-injurious Behavior and Borderline Symptoms with a one-year Follow-up20:00 - Picture perfect during a pandemic? Body image concerns and depressive symptoms in U.S. adolescent girls during the COVID-19 lockdown26:00 - Miss Americana - Wikipedia30:00 - When you are born matters: evidence for England36:00 - Full article: Nonsuicidal self injury among young adults and adolescents: Historical, cultural and clinical understandings38:00 - The Relationship between Social Media and the Increase in Mental Health Problems - PMC44:00 - Key & Peele - Text Message Confusion - Uncensored47:00 - Adolescent Sleep and Cellular Phone Use: Recent Trends and Implications for Research - PMC1:22:00 - Contested Jurisdictions: Psychiatry, Psychoanalysis, and Clinical Psychology in the United States, 1940–20101:27:00 - Smartphone addiction is increasing across the world: A meta-analysis of 24 countries - ScienceDirect1:28:00 - Smartphone Addiction and Associated Health Outcomes in Adult Populations: A Systematic Review - PMC

If you're curious about dialectical behavioral therapy (DBT) and how it can help you in your addiction recovery process, Calusa Recovery (866-939-6292) offers a guide to DBT and the ways it can be used within rehabilitation programs. Visit https://calusarecovery.com/blog/understanding-the-pros-and-cons-of-dbt-therapy-is-it-right-for-you for more details. Calusa Recovery City: Fort Myers Address: 15611 New Hampshire Ct Website: https://www.calusarecovery.com Phone: +1-866-798-3232 Email: info@calusarecovery.com

Tony Overbay, LMFT, dives into an article by Dr. Richard Friedman titled 'Plenty of People Could Quit Therapy Right Now.' Tony reads the article and comments in real-time, talking about the many different reasons people come to therapy, the importance of the therapist/client relationship, and what to do if you don't feel a connection with your therapist. He discusses why talk therapy works and provides additional personal insights, bringing in his background in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). He shares some of the challenges he has with the more popular CBT or cognitive behavioral therapy modality. The discussion revolves around concepts like the potentially harmful effects of prolonged therapy when to consider ending therapy, and the possibility of 'therapy vacations'. Lastly, Tony underlines the importance of having a clear treatment plan, addressing the client's goals, and reinforcing the idea that progress is made when clients implement what they've learned in their day-to-day lives. 00:00 Introduction: The Clickbait Phenomenon 01:13 Welcome to the Virtual Couch: Episode 413 01:36 The Power of Numerology: Understanding 413 02:40 The Magnetic Marriage: A Valentine's Special 03:55 The Art of Clickbait: A Deep Dive 04:55 The Case for Quitting Therapy: A Discussion 08:14 The Role of a Therapist: A Personal Perspective 09:43 Understanding Different Types of Therapists 12:01 The Case for Quitting Therapy: An Article Review 16:07 The Role of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy 19:50 The End Goal of Therapy: Thriving on Your Own 20:48 Understanding Emotions and Interactions 21:27 The Role of Therapy in Emotional Processing 21:36 Cognitive Behavioral Therapy: An Overview 22:00 The Power of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy 23:05 Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and Its Impact 25:39 The Importance of Trust in Therapy 26:28 The Role of Therapy in Dealing with Trauma 28:01 The Long-Term Benefits of Therapy 28:09 The Challenges of Accessing Therapy 28:20 The Potential Risks of Over-Reliance on Therapy 29:51 The Role of Therapy in Personal Growth 31:16 The Importance of Finding the Right Therapist 38:23 The Role of Medication in Therapy 38:52 The Importance of Self-Reflection in Therapy 41:37 The Benefits of Taking a Break from Therapy 42:35 Final Thoughts on the Role and Impact of Therapy Available NOW: Tony's "Magnetic Marriage Mini-Course" is only $20. https://magneticmarriage.mykajabi.com/magnetic-marriage-mini-course To learn more about Tony's upcoming re-release of the Magnetic Marriage course, his Pathback Recovery course, and more, sign up for his newsletter through the link at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouch Please follow Tony's newest Instagram account for the Waking Up to Narcissism podcast https://www.instagram.com/wutnpod/ as well as Tony's account https://www.instagram.com/tonyoverbay_lmft/ Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384 Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ

In this episode we speak with Dr. Keegan Tangeman about the use of dialectical behavioral therapy (DBT) to support children and adults in overcoming difficult thoughts and behaviors. We speak about the use of this type of therapy in general, as well as with suicidal adolescents. Further, we discuss how the principles of DBT can be used to support children not only in therapy but in their interactions with others.    Dr. Tangeman is a licensed, child and adolescent psychologist. He received his doctorate from Pepperdine University and completed his pre-doctoral internship at Morrison Child and Family Services, an APA-Accredited clinical internship in Portland, Oregon with rotations in community mental health and juvenile forensic settings. Dr. Tangeman completed two, APA-Accredited postdoctoral fellowships in the Child and Adolescent Psychiatry program at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, where he specialized in child and adolescent trauma, child psychological assessment, as well as evidence-based treatments for children and adolescents. Dr. Tangeman developed and directed the Behavioral Assessment and Treatment clinic for disruptive behavior disorders at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center and served the role of Clinical Project Director for a multi-site, randomized controlled trial of Dialectical Behavior Therapy with adolescents, affiliated with the University of Washington and the University of California at Los Angeles.   To learn more about Dr. Keegan visit https://www.drkeegan.com/drtangeman  

This episode is sponsored by Alma. Alma is on a mission to simplify access to high-quality, affordable mental health care by giving providers the tools they need to build thriving in-network private practices. When providers join Alma, they gain access to insurance support, teletherapy software, client referrals, automated billing and scheduling tools, and a vibrant community of clinicians who come together for education, training, and events.Sign up today at https://helloalma.comWhat is functional medicine? How can functional medicine help address the root cause of health issues rather than just treating the symptoms?MEET Amanda LarsonI'm Amanda Larson, a Masters Limited Psychologist, and the owner & founder of The Holistic Counseling Center (Larson DBT Counseling Services, PLLC). I have specialized training and certification in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, EMDR, Mindfulness, Trauma, Integrative Medicine for Mental Health, and Nutrition and Mood. I received my education and clinical training from Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo, Michigan. I have lived and practiced, in Grand Rapids, Michigan, for over 9 years. In the last couple of years, I have integrated Eastern and Western approaches to mental health and wellness. I have participated in extensive training for DBT, EMDR, integrative medicine and mental health, complex trauma, nutrition and mental health, and advanced mindfulness. I provide holistic counseling and assessment to adolescents & adults struggling with depression, anxiety, stress, mood instability, self-harm behaviors, trauma, life transitions, and lifestyle changes. I offer an evidenced-based and bio-individual approach to the mind-body connection. I help uncover the root causes impacting brain health and wellness. I believe in the ability to grow, change, and heal, and ultimately create a life worth living.Find out more at The Holistic Counseling Center and connect with Amanda on InstagramIN THIS PODCAST:What is functional medicine? 5:36Determining what will best help your clients when it comes to functional medicine 11:25Benefits of Functional Medicine 21:30What Is Functional Medicine?What is the functional medicine approach to mental health?How to educate clients on functional medicineWhat can cause anxiety and other mental health issuesFunctional medicine and hormonal imbalances Determining What Will Best Help Your Clients When It Comes To Functional MedicineThe importance of having a personalized approach when evaluating your clientsWhat kind of tests are available to determine your health markersHow to approach clients on daily habits and dietary needsBenefits Of Functional MedicineWho can benefit from functional medicine?The importance of being trauma-informed when using functional medicine with clientsMisconceptions of functional medicineBenefits of layering holistic modalities when treating clientsConnect With MeInstagram @holisticcounselingpodcastFacebookJoin the private

Laughers, take a journey deep with us into the complexities of love and connection with renowned Couples Therapist Randy Hook, LCSW, PLLC. With over 25 years of therapy triumphs, Randy guides us through the profound journey of mending and nurturing relationships. Discover how radical acceptance and unconditional positive regard revolutionize the way couples communicate and resolve conflict, all while Randy shares insights from dialectical behavioral therapy, emotionally focused therapy, experiences as a therapist and personal anecdotes. Host Dawn Davis Womack gets candid about her recovery journey from complex PTSD, inviting us to embrace vulnerability as a strength. And yes, we even get a glimpse into Randy's personal narrative, from his initial calling to his devotion outside the therapy room—balancing sports enthusiasm with family life. Want to transform your relationship dynamics? Wondering about Randy's 'wise mind' advice or how to vanquish 'the drift' in your partnership? Tune in for an episode brimming with healing, hope, and humor.  Randy's training, commitment and wealth of experience has made him an invaluable resource for couples seeking to strengthen their bonds and unravel the mysteries of affection and support between partners. Our hope is you walk away with a few insights, hope and inspiration to explore the possibilities to deepen your own bonds in the relationships that mean the most to you. Here's to love, laughter, and the ongoing work of personal growth. Cheers! Randy Hook, LCSW ~  www.randyhooklcsw.com Specializing in Couples Therapy, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, Emotionally Focused Therapy and Certified Prevention Relationship Enhancement Program (PREP) instructor. Laughers, enjoy the award-winning delicious PrePOPsterous Gourmet Popcorn!  Physical Location: 400 N Main St, Bridgewater, VA  Website: https://www.prepopsterous.com/  Discount promo code: LAUGH15  Virginia Is For Laughers: virginiaisforlaughers.com To learn more about X2 Comedy & Buy Tickets visit: https://www.x2comedy.com/ Facebook & Instagram: @x2comedy

Molly Carmel, LCSW is a leading addiction and eating disorder therapist and founder of Beacon by MC - and which offers individual and group solutions to help people break free from their destructive relationships with food and dieting. Known for her irreverent, “straight talk, no chaser” attitude, she's also the author of the innovative book, Breaking Up with Sugar: A Plan to Divorce the Diets, Drop the Pounds, and Live Your Best Life and the host of the podcast, What You're Craving. Molly is fiercely devoted to helping people break free of their destructive relationship with food, dieting, and negative body image to create the big beautiful lives they deserve. After battling an eating disorder for over 20 years and finding no solution in available treatment, she began to trailblaze her professional path, obsessed with helping people find real and sustainable healing. She's never looked back. Molly has extensive training in Substance Use, Eating Disorders and is intensively in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. Recognizing that it's not all about the food and the limitations of a "brain-only" approach in treating complex issues like addiction and eating disorders, she is also a trained Shaman, Reiki healer, a certified Tibetan bowl singing practitioner, certified in BREATHE breathwork, a dedicated devotee of daily meditation, and a certified intenSati instructor Molly graduated with a Bachelor's in Social Work from Cornell University and a master's in Social work from Columbia University. Her work has been featured on The Today Show, The Dr. Oz Show, Dateline NBC, Anderson Cooper 360, and Extreme Makeover as well as in People Magazine, the Los Angeles Times and the New York Times. She's been a guest on The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast, Keeping it Real with Jillian Michaels, and Ever Forward Radio with Chase Chewning. Molly's Fired Up 2024 Online Retreat is happening on Sunday, Jan 21, 2024 from 11-5 EST - it's an amazing opportunity to find your inner spark and get into a space of POWER for the new year. Learn more at https://mollycarmel.com/fired-up/ - and use the code MOLLY10 to get 10% off! Links and Social Media Handles: Website: mollycarmel.com IG: @mollycarmel YouTube: Molly Carmel Tiktok: @realmollycarmel Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mollycarmel.buws  

In this episode Andre Brisson shares his personal reflections on dialectical behavioral therapy (DBT) after a discussion with Dr. Alexandra Philipsen.  Andre delves into his own experiences with DBT and the impact it had on his mental health and self-perception.  He discusses the validation of his feelings, asserting boundaries, and the importance of surrounding oneself with supportive individuals.  Join us as Andre shares his insights and encourages listeners to prioritize their mental health and make positive changes in the new year. 1.       DBT validated André's feelings, giving him the right to express and communicate his emotions assertively.  It provided a framework for him to understand that his feelings were okay, but the way he was expressing them needed adjustment. 2.     Through DBT, André learned the importance of setting and communicating healthy boundaries.  This skill enabled him to recognize when an environment or relationship was not conducive to his well-being, especially in the context of his family. 3.     The episode emphasized the importance of prioritizing mental health and practicing self-care.  André shared the significance of creating a supportive and positive environment by surrounding oneself with the right people who uplift and respect one's well-being. Andre urged listeners to make a commitment to surround themselves with supportive and positive individuals in the new year.  He stressed the importance of conserving energy and ensuring that the people around are supportive and conducive to personal growth and well-being.  You listeners deserve and are entitled to be in a positive and uplifting environment, encouraging them to prioritize their own needs and happiness. André posed a heartfelt question to the listeners, urging them to promise to try and change the people around them to create a supportive and positive environment in the coming year. Check out the ADHD Transform Journey Program that is now available. We would like to hear from you!  Please send show ideas, questions, or feedback to podcast@tacticalbts.com and join our mailing list here!  Follow us on Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube. Check out our website at Tactical Breakthroughs. André Brisson can also be found on LinkedIn. You can find other Podcast Episodes here!

Today's episode features special guest Jesenia Villoldo from @‌invisibleWoundsTherapist. Jesenia joins me to discuss the impact of trauma on our bodies and holistic and trauma informed therapy practices. In this show, you'll hear: Jesenia's journey to becoming a holistic therapist How trauma impacts our physical and mental health, specifically our nervous system How trauma an impact your immune system and lead to chronic illness Outward signs you might see of trauma The differences between fight, flight, freeze, and fawn What is a normal amount of childhood to remember The difference between Big Trauma, Little Trauma, and Vicarious (or Complex) Trauma The connection between disordered eating and trauma The different therapy modalities to heal trauma, including: EMDR, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, Internal Family Systems, Somatic Therapy, and Polyvagal Therapy The impact of generational trauma on the body Tips for managing the holidays In this episode, you'll also hear about my upcoming Black Friday sale on the PCOS Pregnancy Protocol. Click the link below to book a discovery call before the sale begins on 11/24 to help you determine if this program is the right fit for you! --- Learn more about the PCOS Pregnancy Protocol Book a discovery call Join my mailing list Fullscript Supplement Dispensary

  Activating 'Wise Mind' ~ Dialectical Behavioral Therapy Tools to Empower Your Well-Being The WISDOM podcast  Season 4  Episode 25   ~ Observe and practice mindfulness and living one's truth as a balanced approach to life.  This is one of the goals of DBT practice.  ~

Inspired by Clare Waismann's enlightening blog post on the profound impact of substance use on emotional maturity in young adults, hosts Dwight Hurst, LPC and David Livingston, LMFT, Waismann Method's psychotherapist dive deep into the discussion surrounding substance use prevention among young individuals. Emphasizing the age-old nature of curiosity, even towards potentially harmful things, they address the balance between directly discussing substance use and focusing on non-drug related activities as prevention. The episode delves into the importance of community engagement and how activities like sports or clubs act as protective barriers against substance misuse. The concept of "positive rebellion" from Dialectical Behavioral Therapy is introduced, illustrating how channeling one's unique personality and creativity can be a powerful tool against drug abuse. The conversation concludes on a hopeful note, underscoring the significance of caring and supportive figures in a young person's life and how their presence boosts resilience against addiction and mental health challenges. As always, the hosts point listeners to the resources available at opiates.com for further exploration and assistance.

On this episode of Dads with Daughters, host Christopher Lewis invites entrepreneur and author Peter Shankman to discuss their experiences as fathers raising daughters. They start off by sharing relatable stories about dealing with slime during the pandemic and the challenges of explaining divorce to their young daughters. Peter emphasizes the importance of being present for his daughter and finding balance in his life through managing his ADHD. Peter shares his personal journey with ADHD, discovering it as an adult and developing coping mechanisms to navigate the condition. He believes that medication is not always necessary for success and suggests exploring alternative coping mechanisms. As the author of "The Boy with the Faster Brain," he aims to help kids with ADHD feel less misunderstood and prevent them from experiencing shame in the long run. The conversation also delves into the concept of neurodiversity and the beauty of thinking differently. They discuss the importance of understanding and embracing neurodiverse needs, highlighting what children are good at, and finding ways for them to have fun while learning. The episode concludes with a heartwarming story about a spontaneous trip to a water park that the speaker and his daughter will cherish forever. Join Christopher Lewis and his guests for inspiring conversations and practical advice on raising strong, independent daughters every week on Dads with Daughters. If you've enjoyed today's episode of the Dads With Daughters podcast, we invite you to check out the Fatherhood Insider. The Fatherhood Insider is the essential resource for any dad that wants to be the best dad that he can be. We know that no child comes with an instruction manual, and most are figuring it out as they go along. The Fatherhood Insider is full of valuable resources and information that will up your game on fatherhood. Through our extensive course library, interactive forum, step-by-step roadmaps, and more you will engage and learn with experts but more importantly with dads like you. So check it out today!   TRANSCRIPT Christopher Lewis [00:00:06]: Welcome to dads with daughters. In this show, we spotlight dads resources and more to help you be the best dad you can be. Christopher Lewis [00:00:17]: Hey everyone, this is Chris. And welcome back to the Dads with Daughters podcast, where we bring you guests to be active participants in your daughters lives, raising them to be strong, independent women. Really excited to be back with you again this week. As always, we're on a journey together in looking at ways in which we can best raise our daughters to be those strong, independent women that we want them to be and to be able to be successful in their own journeys as individuals. And every week I have the pleasure of being able to bring you different dads that are doing it different ways, dads that you can learn from and be able to get different ideas from, different experiences from, because every father fathers in a little bit different way. And that's great because we don't have to be the same type of dads, but we can learn from each other and be better fathers in the end. And that's what this show is all about. Today. We got a great guest with us. Peter Shankman is with us. And Peter is a I'm just going to say he's a multi entrepreneur. He has done many different things in his career that has led him down the pipeline of being very successful in what he does. But most recently, he has become a author, a kids author, I'm going to say, because he has a brand new book called The Boy with the Faster Brain. And it's a little bit of, I'm going to say a little biographical in a way, in the sense of talking about his own experience and finding out that he had ADHD and what that journey was like for him. But also it's a book to allow for other kids and parents to be able to explore that in a little bit different way. So we're going to be talking about that as well. He also is a father of a daughter. He has a ten year old daughter and we'll be talking about that as well. Peter, thanks so much for being here today. Peter Shankman [00:02:07]: My pleasure. My dog obviously says hello as well. Christopher Lewis [00:02:10]: Well, I love being able to talk to different dads, and what I would love to do first and foremost is turn the clock back in time. I said you have a ten year old daughter, so I want to go back to that first moment, that first moment when you found out that you were going to be a father to a daughter. What was going through your head? Peter Shankman [00:02:26]: It's actually a really funny story. When I first found out, when my wife called me, most dads, they find out they're going to be a dad in some special way, the wife does something sweet, they put a little onesie inside the dinner table or something. I'm coming back from a meeting in Washington, DC. I'm on the Metro, heading over to Union Station to get an Amtrak back to New York, and my phone rings, and I see it's my wife, and I'm like, hey, honey, what's up? Because I'm pregnant. Okay, well, I turn around to, like, the 14 guys on the subway. I'm like, should I get them cigars? How does this work? So, yeah, that was how I found out in that amazing and overwhelming way. And of course, when we found out it was a girl, I was sitting in her my wife's office. She was at work. She's like, they're going to call us soon. I'm sitting there, I wanted a girl. I don't know why, but I wanted a girl. And so I was really excited. I was going to be this great girl dad, and I like to think I've kind of lived up to that. We have a lot of fun. She is a daredevil to an extent. Like, her dad haven't taken her Skydiving yet, but I know that's on the I'm sure that's on the list the second she and is 18. Christopher Lewis [00:03:20]: So one of the things that I hear from a lot of dads is that in becoming a father, there's fears, but there's also some fear going into raising daughters. And I guess for you, what was your biggest fear in raising a daughter. Peter Shankman [00:03:34]: Who'S going to be like me? I think there's a ton of fear, but my fears weren't the norm. I didn't have that whole, oh, I'm going to get a shotgun, and she can't date. That's not my thing. I wanted to get hurt. The only way you learn is if you get hurt, right? At least in my experience. My fear is that she was going to be she's a very sensitive kid. She cares about everything. We live in New York City, homeless capital of the world. I live two blocks west of Times Square, and so when COVID hit, it just decimated our area because all the homeless population in New York City was moved into a five block radius around my apartment because all the hotels here were turned into homeless facilities, which is fine, but they weren't made into homeless facilities with services. They were just made into places for people to stay. And that was a huge problem because you can't take 9000 people, put them in a five block radius and not give them services. And so it was tough. I had her explain to my daughter at age seven, the, no, honey, he's not dead. The needle sticking out of his arm means he has a problem, but he's getting help. It was tough. So she's very sensitive, and she cares that she wants to solve the world's problems. And sometimes, as much of a bitch as it is, you need to explain, honey, you can't solve all the world. Not all the world's problems can be solved at this moment. On the walk to the corner store and we've had countless talks about that, about what we can do to help homelessness. So we volunteer and we work at a soup kitchen. We're on the Hell's Kitchen litter brigade, and we built a dog park in an empty space overlooking Port Authority under the bus bridges. That this empty area. So we do things. But I call her Warrior Princess, and I love that she's as sensitive as she is. She will change the world, but I want her to live her life and not have to solve every single problem that the world throws at her. There has to be a middle ground there because unfortunately, she definitely got my sensitivity. Christopher Lewis [00:05:21]: I mentioned you've got your hands in a lot of different things. You've had that for many years and you have been a multi entrepreneur in many different ways and been successful in many different ways, but you have been busy. So talk to me about balance and how you have been able to balance being that serial entrepreneur as well as being able to be present and engaged with your daughter as you've raised her. Peter Shankman [00:05:51]: So my balance for me comes from my ADHD. There are certain things I have to do in my life to make sure that I can live the life I want in the way I want it and be the dad I want, I think, for lack of better word. So what does that mean? My day starts around 430 every morning with exercise. If I am not exercise, I am not the best person I could be. And so for me, I was up at 430 this morning. I was on the peloton. I got my couple of hours in. That's my definition of balance because I'm on that bike before she wakes up. And so when I get off the bike, I take a shower, I wake her up and I'm present. Right. The dopamine, the serotonin, the adrenaline that I receive from that ride gives me that balance, lets me be the best dad I could be, the best person I could be, the best entrepreneur I could be, best parent I could be, the best son I could be, best boyfriend I could be. So it has to start with that. From there, there are other things I'm able to do. I take her on as many business trips as I can. I'm speaking in January, I just landed the confirmation yesterday. I'm speaking in Greece at a keynote in January. And part of the contract, they have to fly me and my daughter out. So Florida school for a few days, we're going to Greece, things like that. So last summer we went to Michigan. I had to give a keynote at McIntyre Island. We spent an extra couple of days trips and around the island and Michigan, things like that. So for me it's sort of figuring out how to do that and where to go and what to do and making sure that as busy as I am, she's included and understands it. She doesn't just see me at a computer doing busy work. She understands. Today daddy's speaking. Tomorrow daddy's going on TV. Everything makes sense. It's a circle. Christopher Lewis [00:07:25]: So being a father is not always an easy thing. There are highs, there are lows, there are ups and downs. I mean, it's a roller coaster of a ride at times. What's been the hardest part for you as a father to a daughter? Peter Shankman [00:07:39]: Wiping slime off every conceivable surface in my house. We discovered slime during the pandemic, and it doesn't fucking end. It just never ends. There's always more slime to be made. But no, if that was the worst thing, I'd be thrilled. I think the hardest thing. I've had to answer the question several times, why aren't you and Mommy married anymore? We get divorced when she was three, and so for the first couple of years, anytime I did anything that didn't involve her, there was jealousy and there was a fear that I was going to leave, when in fact, nothing could be obviously further from the truth. I'm constantly here. It's gotten easier. So I think that the hardest thing for me as a girl. Dad hasn't really hit yet. I think it's going to come as she gets older. There have been a couple of times where I've seen her. Her teachers have told me that, yeah, she's very active, she has tons of friends, but sometimes she just prefers to sit by herself at the playground and read or make her own games up. And that doesn't really bother me so much because I was a loner, too. There's a big difference between being alone and being lonely, and I think she understands that already. That's the case. She's doing better than me. At the end of the day, I think the goal is I just want her to be happy, and I know that's going to come with some sadness, but I'm okay with that because you have to have that balance. Christopher Lewis [00:08:49]: You talked about that you try to make memories with your daughter that probably at age 18, you're going to be taking her Skydiving. There's been other experiences. What's been the most memorable experience that you and your daughter have been able to share together? Peter Shankman [00:09:01]: Here's a classic ADHD moment. Last summer in late July, early August, we were bored one night, and I tell her, she's not allowed to be bored. Even the inside of your mind goes on forever. It's endless. You cannot be bored. There's always something to do. So she's like, Daddy, I have nothing to do. I'm like, all right, let's search something. Let's look something up online. What do you want to look up online? Let's look up the biggest water slides in the world. Great. So we sit down in front of the computer and we start looking up the biggest lives of the world. And would you believe one of the top ten water parks in the world is in Tenerife. So I'm like, would you believe one of the largest water parks in the world is in this small little island to African called Tenerife? We should go there. She didn't say that, I did. And so I look at her calendar, I'm like, yeah, you have like, three more weeks of summer camp, and you have like, ten days between summer camp. Yeah. Let's go to tenerife. And so we booked a flight like that night, right? And I pity god, I pity whoever this kid marries. This kid, god, this kid better be rich, because it's not even about money for me. I just have billions of miles because of how much I travel for work. But yeah, she's going to want to go somewhere. She better make no, actually, screw that. She better make a lot of money. She better be able to do this because the funniest line she ever said to me was once she goes, how come Mommy, when Mommy and I get on a plane, when Daddy and I going to play me sit in the front, and when Mommy and I get on, play me sit the back? I don't know. You have to talk to mom about that. I can't really sorry escape and avoid that one. But no, what it comes down to is that ADHD brain kicks in. We went Tenerife, spent four days sliding down these amazing waters. I had a blast. And it was just this, what a wonderful way to end fourth grade or end third grade, fourth grade. And those are the kind of things that I want her to remember for the rest of her life. And I want to do with her these just random, spur of the moment, let's go somewhere and have fun trips. There are times for the other side of the coin, too. Her mom is taking her to Paris at the end of August, and they've been planning this for over a year and a half, and I think it's wonderful, right? They have their schedule. They know exactly what they're going to do every day. They're going to do this this day and this, this day and sit here. That's great. And I love that. And there's definitely a place in the world for that. My idea of travel is, okay, we're here, let's figure it out, right? And so if she has the best of both those worlds, I think that's amazing. Christopher Lewis [00:11:09]: Now, I mentioned at the beginning of the show that one of the reasons that we're talking today is you've got a brand new book, and this isn't your first book, but it is your first children's book that you have written called The Boy With the Faster Brain. And you've talked about ADHD in the past, but more on the business side of things. And you also have had a number of other books out there in talking about business customer service and influencing and things like that. Talk to me about the genesis of this new book and what made you decide that you wanted to move into writing a book for kids. Peter Shankman [00:11:48]: I wrote this book because I don't want any kid to have to grow up feeling as broken as I felt. I had a pretty rough childhood, and that doesn't mean I grew up in a van down by the river. It doesn't mean that my parents weren't totally supportive. They were. My problem was that I grew up in New York City, in the public school system, in the where ADHD didn't exist. What existed was, sit down, you're disrupting the class disease. And I had that very, very bad. And so every day, every single day, I would come home with a note from the teachers about the fact that I was disruptive, that I couldn't sit still, that I was causing trouble for the other students, that I was being a disruptive influence. The irony, of course, is that I was being disruptive because every time I felt like I couldn't focus, I would crack a joke. And what winds up happening when you crack a joke is the class laughs and you get a dopamine hit, which would allow me to focus. So, ironically, I was getting in trouble because I was trying to focus, but I wasn't told, hey, your brain thinks different. Your brain is different. Let's figure out better ways for you. I wasn't told that. I was told you're being difficult and there's something wrong with you. And when you spend the first 18 years of your life hearing that, you spend the next 30 trying to unlearn the fact that you're broke. If I can help kids who are five, six, seven years old today learn at that age that they're not broken, that they're gifted, then they won't have to spend the next 30 years of their lives in therapy like I had. And they're not going to assume that every good thing that they do is actually just a fluke and they haven't had any of their true success at all. Waffles. Shut up. They won't assume they've had any real success in their life at all. I assume that everything I've done every day today is the day that The New York Times writes a story about what a fraud I am. And every day when they don't do it, it's obviously because I'm not important enough for The New York Times to write a story. This goes on every single day. So if I can help a child understand that having a different brain is actually a good thing, and I can stop them from going down the shame spiral for the next 30 years, then it's worth every single thing. And it was a fun book to write in typically ADHD fashion. I had people from the day I launched faster than normal. I had people say, oh my God, just do a kids book and ADHD. I said, yeah, I should. It took five years to do it, and then I wrote it in 2 hours. And when I wrote it, I found this amazing illustrator out of Brazil and she did all the illustrations, and the book was Live in a Month. And so it's one of those things where I really, really believe that children with neurodiverse brains are going to save us all. Nothing new has ever come from anyone with a normal brain. And that doesn't mean there's not a place in the world for normal brains. There are. But if you want creative, I just gave a talk last month to Morgan Stanley 80,000 employees about neurodiversity because they finally are at the point where they understand that neurodiversity is something that should be celebrated and something that can improve your company and improve your bottom line. So now I'm getting calls from Adobe, from Google to go in and talk about this stuff. And that's my goal, is to help expand that conversation. Companies are finally spending more on mental health. I'm speaking to schools all about this, and the boy with the faster brain, like I said, was really written for those kids. I remember I spoke to a school in Wayne, New Jersey, a couple of months ago, and this kid comes up to me the end of the talk, and I'm going to cry because I can't talk about this crying. Kid comes up to me fifth grader, his eyes were down the entire time, sitting on the floor. He wasn't really looking. And he comes up to me, the end, his eyes are still down. He goes, I just want to thank you have never read a book about someone like me before. And I just gave him like the biggest hug. That's what I want to do. And if this book does that even in slightest, then I have succeeded beyond my wildest dreams. Christopher Lewis [00:15:13]: You talk about the importance of everyone understanding neurodiversity more and how not only impacts us as parents, but how it impacts the child. What are some of the biggest let's just say, what are some of the things that people don't understand the most when it comes to neurodiversity? And what do parents need to understand if they believe that their own child is neurodiverse and they want to be able to support them better? Peter Shankman [00:15:42]: Well, the first one is most definitely that your child is not broken, your child's gifted. The premise of children with neurodiverse needs special help. Just to be normal is bullshit. You're not normal. That's the beauty of it. That's what I want, right? You want to not be normal. You want to be thinking differently. You want to have this fun. So that right there is the very first answer. And so I would take it a step further and say that, yes, when you're told there's something different about your child, your first instinct is to freak out don't learn as much as you can. Talk to more than one doctor. It's like buying a house. You don't just go visit one house. Talk to more than one doctor because you might have a misunderstanding of what neurodiversity is. Again, when I was growing up, it was sit down and disrupt in the class, and so you felt like everything you were doing was wrong, when in fact, I was reading on a college level from first grade because I loved it so much, right? It was the stuff that I was bad at, the stuff I didn't love so much that I was bad at that I couldn't math, science, things that I just couldn't grasp. So it's all about figuring out what the kid is good at and highlighting those things, really enjoying those things, letting the kids have fun with the things that are most important to them. Look, I'm not anti medication. I think in some instances, I have a prescription for Concerta. I think I took last time I took a pill was about five weeks ago, six weeks ago. I just rarely take it. I take it on days when my assistant says, if you don't get these five expense reports into me today, and we get them to the client, you're not getting paid. She goes, Take your damn pill and do it. So be it. But most of the time for me, I am able to use other ways to focus and other ways to get that dope meaning. So work with your kid and understand there are different ways and different things they can do to learn about themselves, and they're not broken. This is not a death sentence. It's not a curse, nothing like that. CHristopher Lewis [00:17:26]: I have to agree with you there, because I found out also as an adult that I had ADHD. And people in my life have probably always known they've always known that I had that in my life. The way that I thought, the way that I did things, the way that I balanced many other things. But just like you, I tried medication, found it, didn't really do what I needed it to do. And I've built a lot of coping mechanisms throughout the years to be able to deal with it. Now, if I talk to my partner in my life, I think she would probably tell you that there are still some times where she probably thinks that I probably should be on some meds to be able to calm things down. But she understands, and we learned together that I had this in my life as well. And at least one of my daughters I know has it as well, and she does not want medication either. And we've talked about coping mechanisms and things that they can do to be able to be successful in that regard. And I think that for parents, it's good to understand that your child does not have to be on medication to be able to be successful. In some cases, you might need that, but it doesn't mean that you have to do that. And that doesn't have to be just because that you have a diagnosis doesn't mean the first step means medication. Peter Shankman [00:18:47]: And that's the thing, I think, that a lot of parents don't understand, is that medication doesn't need to be a first line of defense. It could be a last resort. It can be combined. It should be combined. Pills don't teach skills. Right. If you're out there taking medication every day, there's tons of stories about kids who get on meds when they're five years old. They're on meds, so they're 25. Then they're kicked off their parents insurance, and they can't afford it. Now. What? They've learned nothing. Right? So now all of you don't have the crutch of medication. Now what do you do? So, yeah, there's a lot of things that can be done in addition to medication. Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. CBT, DBT, regular therapist. And I've been going to the same therapist now for over 20 years. The guy's amazing. He looks like Einstein. He has a social acuity. He is the technological acuity of a turnip. But he saved my life more than once. So those are the things that you need to understand, is that medication is just one arrow in the quiver of everything you're doing. Christopher Lewis [00:19:37]: Peter, I think you made this clear, but I want to hit home the point that for you, as you share this book out into the world, you get it in front of different audiences, you get it into local libraries, you get it into those local bookstores. You get it in front of the PTAs and teachers. What's the biggest takeaway that you want for parents and kids in reading this and leaving at the end of the book? Peter Shankman [00:20:03]: Different kids learn differently. You can't sit 35 kids in a classroom and expect them all to be automatrons and do the exact same thing. That's what happened to me. And it starts off with, you sit wherever you want, and then a couple of weeks later, they notice you getting distracted. They move you to the front of the room. Well, now when you get distracted, it's a lot easier for the teachers to see that you're getting distracted now. You get in more trouble quicker. What they should do is they should push in the back of the room, and they should say, okay, you know what? I get the way you are. If you need to stand up or walk outside, do a couple of jumping jacks, whatever, do some deep knee squats, whatever, come back in with a little bit more dopamine, feel free. Those are the kind of things that I'm seeing now in some schools. It's wonderful. We also all grew up with the premise of sit down in the morning, watch your cartoons while eating two bowls of chocolate frosted sugar bombs, then get driven to school. How about we take a 30 minutes walk, then give a kids a couple of eggs and some protein and a big glass of water, and then send them to school? So different things. They tried that in Texas. They replaced 20 minutes of recess with an hour every day, and they replaced breakfast and lunch that were mostly carbs and sugars with proteins and good fats. And they saw something like a 19% decrease in outbursts from ADHD, outbursts from boys, and a I think it was like a 29% increase in girls participating in class because girls present ADHD differently than boys do. And so that's massive. That's massive. Did nothing else. But they gave them more exercise, and they changed the food. So you look at things like that, you're like, wow. Christopher Lewis [00:21:26]: Peter, we always finish our interviews with what I like to call our Fatherhood Five, where I ask you five more questions to delve deeper into you as a dad. Are you ready? Peter Shankman [00:21:33]: Go for it. Christopher Lewis [00:21:34]: In one word, what is fatherhood? Peter Shankman [00:21:37]: That I've walked the face of this earth? Christopher Lewis [00:21:39]: When was the time that you finally felt like you succeeded at being a father to a daughter? Peter Shankman [00:21:43]: When I picked up my daughter from school earlier this year. One day, I picked her up almost every day, and I picked her up, and the teacher came over to me, said, no big deal. Just want to let you know that Jessa and a boy got into a little argument, and Jesse used a curse word when talking to him. I said, well, what'd she say? He goes, she called him an asshole. And I know that she totally got that from me, because we're on our scooter. We go on our scooter every day to school, and you try scooting in Manhattan, you're going to call someone asshole on every trip. It's just what it is. And so he goes, she called him an asshole. I go, we fucking deserved it, right? And the teacher just cracked up. That was when I knew I was a good parent. That's what I knew. I was a great dad parent. Christopher Lewis [00:22:28]: Now, if I was to talk to your daughter, how would she describe you as a dad? Peter Shankman [00:22:32]: Dad is crazy. Dad makes me laugh. Dad is a skydiver. And dad goes on TV a lot, and he loves me very much. Christopher Lewis [00:22:41]: Who inspires you to be a better dad? Peter Shankman [00:22:43]: My father. Without question. My father. And then I think my daughter as crazy as it sounds. Because when I had sort of my awakening in 2016, when I realized everything, this is when I realized about my ADHD, when I wrote the first book on ADHD, everything. In 2016, I caught my awakening year. I realized that the only people whose opinions really matter to me are my daughter, my parents, my girlfriend. That's it. And I stopped caring what other people thought. And that was just this incredible, incredible level of freedom. And so. Yeah. I'd say my daughter inspires me because I want to do the best job I can for her, because she's who matters. Christopher Lewis [00:23:19]: You've given a lot of piece of advice today as we finish up today, what's one piece of advice that you'd like to give to every dad? Peter Shankman [00:23:27]: I think there comes a point when we realize that we feel like we're trapped, right? Oh, I have a kid. I'd love to be living in Asia right now. There's no question about it, right? Especially with what's happened to America in the past, like, five years. I'd love to be gone. I'd love to be in Asia. I love Asia, for I could live like a goddamn king on one 10th the amount of money it cost me to live in New York. And I could live 20 times better if I was in South Vietnam or something, right know? But you can, right? But the one thing you can control is the people you associate with. And one of the greatest quotes I ever heard ever came from an old skydiver friend of mine. And you want to listen to old Skydiver because if they're still alive, if Skydiver 40 years, they've done something, right? And this guy said to me goes, I was complaining about how the people who I live in the city with don't understand why I go up to the Skydive every weekend. The people who I Skydive with don't understand why I want to come home every weekend. You know, come home because I like things like hot water, and I go up to the drop zones. I like jumping. I was kind of surfing that duality, right, where both things were different. And this old guy looks at me and goes, you know, if you can't change the people around you, change the people around you blew my mind. I'm like, that's the best piece of advice ever gotten. And it goes back to what I said earlier. Life's too short to surround yourself with annoying people. So the best piece of advice if you can't change the people around you, find better people. Christopher Lewis [00:24:35]: Peter, if people want to find out more about you, about the book, about your other books, where's the best place. Peter Shankman [00:24:41]: For them to go? My entire life is@shankman.com my email is peter@shankman.com. All my books are on Amazon. They're everywhere. And then I'm at Peter Shankman on all the socials except Twitter. I quit Twitter because I just cannot take what has become. But other than that, I'm at Peter Shankman everywhere else. I'm pretty big on Instagram, so, yeah, feel free to follow me anywhere you'd like. Christopher Lewis [00:24:58]: Well, Peter, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you for writing this book for kids like you and other kids that, as you said, may have been not seeing people like themselves in books. And I wish you all the best. Peter Shankman [00:25:15]: Pleasure was mine. Great to be here. Christopher Lewis [00:25:17]: We know that no child comes with an instruction manual, and most dads are figuring it out as they go along. And the Fatherhood Insider is full of resources and information that will up your game on Fatherhood. Through our extensive course, library, interactive forum, step by step, roadmaps and more, you will engage and learn with experts, but more importantly, dads like you. So check it out@fatheringtogether.org. If you are a father of a daughter and have not yet joined the Dadswithdaughters Facebook community, there's a link in the notes. Today dads withdaughters is a program of Fathering together. Find out more@fatheringtogether.org. We look forward to having you back for another great guest next week, all geared to helping you raise strong, empowered daughters and be the best dad that you can be. Christopher Lewis [00:26:06]: We're all in the same boat and it's full of tiny screaming passengers. We spend the time we give the lessons we make the meals we buy them present bring your AC because those kids are growing fast. The time goes by just like a dynamite calling astronauts and firemen carpenters and muscle men get out and be the one to them be the best that you can be be the best that you can be you close.

Have you ever been to a therapist or a coach? Are you curious to know what the difference is? Did you know that although they are different modalities, there are more similarities than you might think?    In this episode, I brought back my dear friend and colleague, Molly Carmel, a psychotherapist and certified Life Designer® coach, to dive deep into a fascinating topic that often sparks curiosity and confusion: the difference between therapy and coaching. Join us as we unravel these two transformative paths toward personal growth and mental well-being.   Molly and I had such a real and raw conversation about authenticity, doing the inner work, the surprising power of coaching, and why she chose to go through the Life Designer® Coach certification program.    Meet Molly Carmel   Molly Carmel, LCSW-R is a leading addictions and eating disorder therapist and Founder of The Beacon Program (Beacon by MC), which offers individual and group solutions to help people break free from their destructive relationships with food and dieting. Known for her irreverent, “straight talk, no chaser” attitude, she's also the author of the innovative book Breaking Up with Sugar: A Plan to Divorce the Diets, Drop the Pounds, and Live Your Best Life and the host of the podcast, What You're Craving. Molly has made it her life's mission to help people find a sustainable solution to the battle of obesity and related eating disorders. After battling an eating disorder for over 20 years and finding no solution in available treatment, she began her professional path and has never looked back. In addition to her extensive training in Substance Use and Eating Disorders, Molly is intensively trained in and has an undying love for Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. She is also a certified Life Designer® Coach, trained shaman, Reiki healer, and certified Tibetan bowl singing practitioner.    How Does Coaching and Therapy Differ    First off, I like to say that coaching and therapy are like PB & J; they go beautifully together and are respectfully a distinct healing modality. While therapy and life coaching share some common aims, their approaches differ.    Both support self-insight and positive change. However, therapy focuses on addressing psychological challenges and trauma and diagnosing mental health issues. There is a greater focus on one's past and understanding, expressing, and healing past traumas and challenges.  Life coaching complements therapy by starting with the client's existing strengths and helping them set and achieve personal and professional goals for the future. There is a greater focus on the present and future, using the past to learn, grow, and harvest lessons. Coaches take a forward-moving, solutions-oriented, growth-oriented approach. The coaching relationship centers on accountable, empowered clients ready to create the life they want.    However, coaches recognize when clinical therapy is the right step. The two modalities can work powerfully together, with therapy helping people overcome obstacles from the past and coaching propelling them toward the life they aspire to create. Ultimately, both therapy and coaching are powerful tools for transformation.   Thinking of Becoming a Spiritual Life Coach?   Want to do something that fulfills a higher purpose? Eager to put your head on the pillow at night, feeling like you're doing good in the world? Do others naturally confide in you and share their deepest, dark secrets? If so, you need to check out the Life Designer® Coach Academy, a spiritual life coach certification that will give you the necessary tools, framework, proven practices, guidance, and experience to become masterful as a life coach. Learn more about the next cohort starting in October 2023 at https://juliereisler.com/certification.    A Free Toolset To Design Your Best Life   This stunning free toolset is a 7-day workbook (25 pages full) of powerful mindset practices, grounding meditations (and audio), a new beautiful time management system, and a template to set your personalized schedule for your best productivity, a personalized energy assessment, and so much more. It was designed to specifically help you uplevel your routine and self-care habits for success so you can radiate and become your ‘You-est You'. These tools are some of Julie's best practices used with hundreds of her clients to help you feel more confident, clear, and connected to your best self so that you feel inspired to take on the world. Get it at: juliereisler.com/toolset     Looking To Help Others Get Unstuck and Design Their Best Life?   If you are feeling a strong urge to help other big-hearted empaths get unstuck and design their best life, you've got to check out my Life Designer Coach Academy. This world-class four-month virtual live coach certification program will give you proven tools, techniques, practices, and methodology to be a powerful coach. This coaching program is for aspiring and current coaches looking to fill in the missing pieces and gain confidence and mastery both in the coaching core competencies and the integrative health modalities from a mind-body science, positive psychology, and healing arts perspective. To learn more, go to lifedesignercoachacademy.com.   You-est You Intention Cards   Want your own powerful deck of 33 You-est You Intention Cards? These cards were channeled by Julie. Each card has an empowering intention and deeper questions to ask your ‘You-est You' for greater self-awareness, higher consciousness, and spiritual growth. You can get them now at juliereisler.com/shop.    Sacred Connection   This community is a sacred, safe place built on love and acceptance. It was created to help you evolve and expand into your highest self. Please share your wisdom, comments, and thoughts. I love hearing from you and learning how you are being your truest, you-est you. Please join us in our Facebook group: The You-est You® Podcast Community. Join host Julie Reisler, author and multi-time TEDx speaker, each week to learn how you can tap into your best self and become your You-est You® to achieve inner peace, happiness, and success at a deeper level! Tune in to hear powerful, inspirational stories and expert insights from entrepreneurs, industry thought leaders, and extraordinary human beings that will help to transform your life. Julie also shares a-ha moments that have shaped her life and career and discusses key concepts from her book Get a PhD in YOU. And as always, if you're enjoying this podcast, thank you for taking a moment to rate, review and love up on it by sharing it with others you love. It helps make these conversations available to more amazing people around the globe. Here's to your being your ‘You-est You!' Enjoying the show? For iTunes listeners, get automatic downloads and share the love by subscribing, rating & reviewing here! I can't thank you enough for your support, kindness, and good juju.   *Share what you are struggling with or looking to transform with Julie at team@juliereisler.com. 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What is DBT ( (Dialectical Behavioral Therapy)? How is it different from CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy) and how is it used to support people with ADHD?Today we'll explore the DBT approach and its components, including mindfulness, emotional regulation, interpersonal effectiveness and distress tolerance skills. 

An episode where we discuss the not so obvious signs of anxiety, ptsd, and depression. We discus tools on how to cope and heal. This episode focuses on the doubt that survivors often feel after leaving the relationship and the inner battle as many fight for their a system to side with them in pursuit of safety for themselves and or their children. Melissa Buesing is a therapist specializing in individual, couples and family therapy, and maintains a private practice in Mansfield, Texas. A little bit about Melissa, she is a born and raised Texan! She loves to spend time with her son, family, and being outside!  Her educational backgrounds include achieving her B.A in Psychology from Texas Woman's University and an M.A. from Dallas Baptist University. She is a Licensed Professional Counselor through the Texas State Board. Melissa's therapeutic approach in strongly rooted in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. She uses up to date evidenced based practices and tailors to each individuals goals and needs. 

Original Air Date: November 2, 2022 ---- "Not only is it difficult for the person going through their mental health concern, but it's also really difficult to be a witness; and to not have the floor to say, "Oh, this is hard for me, too." Today we welcome Kara Bucci to the podcast! Kara is a licensed clinical social worker and psychotherapist in the Hudson Valley region of New York and she is here to speak with Courtney about challenges and strategies associated with caring for someone with mental health issues. According to the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI - nami.org) more than 20% of Americans experienced a mental health concern in 2020 (nami.org/mhstats, retrieved October 27, 2022). With nationwide stats suggesting that 1 in 5 individuals are living with a diagnosable mental health disorder it is easy to assume many of us have been impacted by this - in big and small ways - at some point in our lives. Of course, these impacts are more deeply felt when the individual is a friend, parent, child, or even colleague. Kara is here to help frame this experience through the lens of roles, responsibilities, and ultimately, limitations. She is also going to provide some ways of approaching these relationships with love, empathy, and compassion, and also with a view toward preserving our own wellbeing as caretakers. About our guest:Kara is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and founder of a small (but growing!) group practice called the Upstate Therapy Group located in Beacon, NY. Kara has been in private practice for 5 years, where she works primarily with adolescents and adults, in individual or group psychotherapy. Kara typically works with people who are going through difficult life transitions, struggling with anxiety and depression, and people who underneath it all, are looking to learn and explore themselves through the lens of a therapeutic relationship. Prior to working in private practice, Kara worked as a residential Counselor at Silver Hill Hospital, where she managed Transitional Living Programs for the Adolescent Program and the (now called) Psychotic Illnesses Program. While at Silver Hill, Kara went through the Foundations training in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, which was particularly helpful in helping develop the resilience skill set for higher risk patients. Kara is continuing her education as a candidate for the Westchester Center for the Study of Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy. Thanks for listening! If you are loving this content, please share with your people! Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe wherever you are listening. Send topic suggestions, questions, and comments to courtney@shineandsoar.com or fill out the contact form at shineandsoar.com/podcast. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pragmaticalchemy/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pragmaticalchemy/support

Are You Actually Neurodivergent Affirming? An Interview with Sonny Jane Wise Curt and Katie interview Sonny Jane Wise, the Lived Experience Educator. We chat about therapists getting stuck in neuro-normative expectations and norms or refusing to accept medication or accommodations as neurodivergent affirming. We look at how you can get more creative and individualized to support neurodivergent individuals more effectively. We also look specifically at neurodivergent friendly DBT and whether skills-deficit models are inherently ableist. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode, we talk about creating neurodivergent affirmative therapy practices Too often, therapists create goals and engage in practices that are neuro-normative. When working with neurodivergent clients and their families, these practices can be harmful. We asked Sonny Jane Wise, the Lived Experience Educator, to talk with us about how to best incorporate neurodivergent affirming practices for therapy. What do therapists get wrong when moving toward neurodiversity affirming practice? ·      Removing medication or accommodations as an acceptable option ·      Failing to allow for individual differences and preferences ·      Neuro-normativity shows up in goals, especially looking at independence and productivity ·      Setting expectations inappropriately How can therapists become more neurodivergent affirming? ·      Understanding the impacts of intersectionality on how someone chooses how they navigate their neurodivergence ·      Moving away from independence as the goal of therapy ·      Understanding that a neurodivergent person's needs are more important than neuro-normative norms ·      Getting creative with problem-solving and communication ·      Recognizing differences, learning to work with them and not try to change them or work against them Are skills-deficit based models (like Dialectical Behavioral Therapy) inherently ableist? ·      When the model states that the problem lies with the individual, then it is ableist ·      Adjusting the environment and the external factors is more appropriate ·      DBT skills can be helpful to learn emotions regulation that wasn't learned when growing up ·      It is important to recognize differences and giving opportunities to work with differences ·      Letting go of the one size fits all and moving toward options What is an ideal for neurodiversity affirming spaces? ·      Viewing differences as differences and not something to be fixed or changed ·      Needs based system (not diagnosis-based system) ·      Understanding that everyone needs different things and accommodations, not just those with ·      Removing neuro-normative standards and expectations Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Patreon Buy Me A Coffee Podcast Homepage Modern Therapist's Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/

Happiness Solved with Sandee Sgarlata. In this episode, Sandee interviews Molly Carmel. Molly Carmel, LCSW is a leading addiction and eating disorder therapist and founder of Beacon by MC - and which offers individual and group solutions to help people break free from their destructive relationships with food and dieting. Known for her irreverent, “straight talk, no chaser” attitude, she's also the author of the innovative book, Breaking Up with Sugar: A Plan to Divorce the Diets, Drop the Pounds, and Live Your Best Life and the host of the podcast, What You're Craving. Molly is fiercely devoted to helping people break free of their destructive relationship with food, dieting, and negative body image to create the big beautiful lives they deserve. After battling an eating disorder for over 20 years and finding no solution in available treatment, she began to trailblaze her professional path, obsessed with helping people find real and sustainable healing. She's never looked back. Molly has extensive training in Substance Use, Eating Disorders and is intensively in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. Recognizing the limitations of a "brain-only" approach in treating complex issues like addiction and eating disorders, she is also a trained Shaman, Reiki healer, a certified Tibetan bowl singing practitioner, certified in BREATHE breathwork, a dedicated devotee of daily meditation, and a certified intenSati instructor Molly's work has been featured on The Today Show, The Dr. Oz Show, Dateline NBC, Anderson Cooper 360, and Extreme Makeover as well as in People Magazine, the Los Angeles Times and the New York Times. She's been a guest on The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast, Keeping it Real with Jillian Michaels, and Ever Forward Radio with Chase Chewning. Connect with Molly: https://mollycarmel.com/     Connect with Sandee www.sandeesgarlata.com Podcast: www.happinesssolved.com www.facebook.com/coachsandeesgarlata www.twitter.com/sandeesgarlata www.instagram.com/coachsandeesgarlata  

In today's episode Mary Ann and Katie address how to navigate difficult conversations by unpacking a recent conversation that they had about a difficult time in Katie's life surrounding calling off her wedding using a therapeutic technique called DEARMAN from Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. Listen to how this mother-daughter team tackle the timing, technique and tender moments of that time in both of their lives. #navigatehardconversations #motherdaughterpodcast #callingoffawedding #DEARMAN #DBT  

In today's episode Mary Ann and Katie address how to navigate difficult conversations by unpacking a recent conversation that they had about a difficult time in Katie's life surrounding calling off her wedding using a therapeutic technique called DEARMAN from Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. Listen to how this mother-daughter team tackle the timing, technique and tender moments of that time in both of their lives. #navigatehardconversations #motherdaughterpodcast #callingoffawedding #DEARMAN #DBT  

In this week's episode I'm joined by Megan Sherer - an incredible holistic therapist. Megan is trained in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming), Eating Psychology, Emotional Transformation, RTT Hypnotherapy and energy healing. Megan helps her clients heal from past heartbreak, learn, grow, and become the healthiest, truest version of themselves. In this episode Megan goes deep into what love alignment means, and how to lean into being intentionally single. Learn more about Megan and her work on her website: https://www.megansherer.com/

In this episode, author and clinician, Dr. Trudy Gilbert-Eliot, explains how exposure to other people's trauma can cause post-traumatic stress. She breaks down how that occurs in the brain of the person exposed, the signs one will experience, and what to do both to prevent against it and help heal it. We talk about the specific professions most likely to encounter that exposure and practices such as mindfulness and CBT for helping change the narrative of one exposed. Dr. Gilbert-Eliot is rich with knowledge and deeply impressed me during our hour together. We will be working on the prevention of and healing of secondary trauma using embodied practices at my Kripalu workshop from June 30th-July 2nd. If you enjoyed this episode consider registering for that experience HERE. Trudy Gilbert-Eliot is a consultant and mental health practitioner. She is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and a Licensed Clinical Alcohol and Drug Counselor. She also obtained a Ph.D. in General Psychology from Capella University in Minnesota. Her book, “Healing Secondary Trauma”, was released May 2020. She has served as an expert witness for psychiatric court commitments, provided assessments in Emergency Room's for those who recently attempted suicide, worked as a pediatric therapist in residential treatment, as Director of Admissions for a psychiatric facility, Director of Therapeutic Services for an outpatient clinic, and worked as an Adjunct Professor of Psychology. In the course of her work she has spoken at various conferences and as a workshop presenter on such topics as Critical Incident Response in Mental Health, Trauma-informed Care, Co-occurring Disorders in Treatment, Advanced Clinical Supervision, ASAM, Working with the Military in Therapy, Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy, Burnout/Compassion Fatigue/Secondary Trauma for First Responders, Clinical Applications in Trauma, PTSD, and a presentation as part of the recertification of CIT personnel for LVMPD. Dr. Gilbert-Eliot has trained extensively in Trauma and is EMDR certified. She has also trained with the Gottmans in couples therapy and in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy with Behavioral Tech Research (Marsha Linehan, Ph.D.) and Alan Fruzetti, Ph.D. She is a member of the American Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, and the American Psychological Association.  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your support is deeply appreciated! Any amount helps with production costs for the show. You can support this podcast with any level of donation here. Find me, Lara, on my Website / Instagram Order The Essential Guide to Trauma Sensitive Yoga: How to Create Safer Spaces for All Opening and Closing music: Other People's Photographs courtesy of Daniel Zaitchik. Follow Daniel on Spotify.

Get ready for some real talk! In this insightful episode, Kelley Stevens chats with Bilingual Licensed Clinical Therapist, Jacqueline Garcia, about maintaining your sanity as a therapist, navigating the impact of social media on the mental health field, and handling career burnout. Discover how Instagram inspired Jacqueline to create her own company, Therapy Lux, and how it can help you connect with your ideal clients. Plus, learn practical tips for managing the demands of your career and personal life, and get expert advice for building a thriving private practice. Don't miss this informative conversation that is sure to leave you feeling empowered and inspired! Guest Bio: Jacqueline Garcia, LCSW – Licensed Clinical Therapist, Mental Health Content Creator Jacqueline is a Bilingual Licensed Clinical Therapist in Private Practice with experience in using Evidence Based Practices such as Behavioral Therapies, Crisis Intervention, Motivational interviewing, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, Harm Reduction and utilizing the Recovery Model. In her work, she believes that creating a safe environment for her clients will help them overcome their challenges. She specializes in working with and treating teens and adults who suffer from depression, anxiety, trauma, and a variety of life stressors. With dedication and passion, she believes that therapy is a powerful tool that can assist you in improving your quality of life while dealing with life's adversities. Website: Therapylux.org IG: @therapylux Email: jacqueline@therapylux.org In this Episode: Maintaining your mental health as a therapist How social media is impacting the mental health field Handling stress and career burnout Tips for building your own private practice Managing the demands of work and personal life Highlights: (0:55) - Jackie Garcia Introduction (3:35) - Jackie's career history prior to transitioning to private practice (7:01) - How social media inspired Jackie to create Therapy Lux (22:37) - Taking care of your mental health as a therapist (25:29) - How social media has allowed Jackie to connect with her ideal clients (37:20) - Kelley's tips for balancing the demands of a thriving career with home life (44:04) - Jackie's advice to those starting out in private practice (50:42) - Kelley answers listener Jessica's question about building a private practice as a pre-licensed therapist References: Riverside County Mental Health → https://www.rcdmh.org Tessie Cleveland Community Services → https://www.tccsc.org Therapy Lux → https://therapylux.org Kaiser Permanente → https://healthy.kaiserpermanente.org/front-door Get 2 months FREE with Simple Practice → https://partners.simplepractice.com/tppp Ask Kelley Anything → (805) 243-8241 This podcast is produced and manged by Jenga Creative → jengacreative.com

This week on the podcast I am joined by Molly Carmel. Molly is a licensed clinical therapist and fiercely devoted to helping people from all walks of life break free from their destructive relationship with food, dieting and addiction. As she battled an eating disorder and addiction for over 20 years, Molly was shocked and disheartened by the lack of viable treatment options. This hopelessness fueled her to create her groundbreaking clinic and treatment method, Beacon by MC. Since then, she has made it her life's mission to help people find permanent solutions, and to finally and fully heal their relationships with food and, more-so, with themselves. In addition to her extensive training in Substance Use and Eating Disorders, Molly is trained intensively in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy – a practice she passionately advocates. Molly's work has been featured on The Today Show, Good Morning America, Dateline NBC, and Extreme Makeover as well as in People Magazine, NYT, Forbes, LA Times, and more.   On this episode we talk about Molly's own journey with an eating disorder and addiction, how to recognize that you may have an addiction or dependency, as well as steps you can take in order to free yourself from addiction. We also discuss alternative healing practices that can support you on your recovery journey, why therapy may not be working for you and what you can do as an alternative, and so much more!   DISCLAIMER: Please keep in mind this episode is not mean to act as medical advice. You are always encouraged to be your own advocate and to do your own research. ------------------------------------- Connect with Meghan: Instagram | TikTok | Facebook | YouTube | Website To Email the Show: podcast@balancebymeghan.com Connect with Molly: Instagram | Website   ------------------------------- Shop my Amazon Store Front where I link all my favourite wellness, lifestyle, and beauty products and brands. ---------------------------------- Join me by practicing yoga and fitness in the comfort of your home! Click here for my YouTube channel. ------------------------------------- Access the Yoga Mama Journey: Journey to a Happy and Healthy Pregnancy and Baby Program and Guide here. ------------------------------------- Do you want to win some FREE clean beauty products? Who doesn't? All you have to do is leave a 5-star rating and review of the show on iTunes or Spotify, take a screenshot of your review and DM me with it. You will be entered into the giveaway and I will randomly select 1 winner. Good luck!

In celebration of our third anniversary, we're re-releasing one of our favorite episodes from the past year. Nobody has a reference for parenting teens. For many, this is the first time doing this, so what are the right answers? Let alone what are the right answers for what you're comfortable with. If you as a parent are doing the best you can, with the best intentions then you're parenting fine. In this episode, Dr. Graham Taylor speaks with Michael Klinkner. Michael is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with over 22 years of experience helping children, adolescents, and adults in therapy. Michael has specialty training in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, and Neurolinguistic Programming. Currently, Michael is working with Evolve Counseling in Arizona where he treats a variety of issues such as anxiety, depression, trauma, and ADHD, focusing primarily on children, teen and adolescent populations. Together Graham and Michael discuss the challenges around teen mental health, the changes in positive socialization, as well as the dangers of social media and how to guide your child's relationship with technology as they mature, and finally encouraging parents to be proactive and have the difficult conversations to establish trust with your teen and ensure they're getting the right information. Most parents are doing the best they can, given their resources. If they had better resources they'd do better. We're not perfect parents. What are the small, but important things you can do today?   For more information about Michael Klinkner and Evolve Counseling, please visit: https://www.evolvecounselingaz.com Connect with Michael on Instagram at michael_klinknercouseling, or visit: https://www.instagram.com/evolvecounseling_AZ/ Finally, connect with Michael on Facebook at michaelklinknercounseling, or visit: https://www.facebook.com/michaelklinknercounseling

On today's episode, I'm pleased to bring you an expert guest, Julie Hall. We are talking about compassion! This episode is packed with life-changing nuggets that have the power to shift your awareness in areas you've been struggling with, perhaps your whole life. We cover: - What is compassion - Why do people fear giving compassion to themselves and others - How does compassion help us grow - What is "co-regulation" - Will compassion make us (or our kids or husbands) weak or lazy? Guest Information Julie Hall is an experienced clinician with a deep passion for supporting families, couples and individuals in their journey toward healing and wholeness. She focuses on building a collaborative, compassionate, safe and empowering experience for each client whom she encounters. Julie draws upon compassion and curiosity to foster a safe environment for clients to explore their lived experiences. Above all else, she desires for her clients to be seen, known, and valued. In her practice, Julie utilizes her training in Mindfulness, Emotion Focused Therapy, Restoration Therapy, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, Solution Focused Therapy, and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy to support her clients. Julie is licensed in the state of Connecticut with an office in Greenwich, CT, providing teletherapy options as well. Julie has lived in New Jersey, New York, San Francisco, and Seattle and now makes her home with her family in Connecticut. Juliehalltherapy.com Host Information Rebekah is a National Christian Speaker and Life Coach. She helps women of faith enjoy their life by knowing Jesus more deeply, internalizing truth, and building skills that help them thrive. Learn more about Rebekah: rebekah-anne.com Instagram @therealrebekahanne The Abundant Life Lab A Growth Group for Christian Women that Works. THE ABUNDANT LIFE LAB FOSTERS GROWTH, exactly where you need it SO YOU, CAN feel great AND ENJOY THE LIFE GOD HAS FOR YOU. Get started in 3 easy steps today at rebekahanneperkins.com/Abundant-Life-Lab-Christian-Life-Coaching

In this edition of The Way Out I'm absolutely thrilled to bring you my interview with Licensed Psychologist, Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Person in Long term recovery and author, Dr. Laura Petracek. Laura shares her journey to and through recovery from alcoholism and addiction while at the same time coming to terms with, and addressing her bipolar disorder which together ended up being the struggle of her lifetime, and one that eventually motivated her to implement Dialectical Behavioral Therapy or DBT for short in her own life along with the 12-Step program she'd been working for years. A struggle, that ultimately informed her new book The DBT Workbook for Alcohol and Drug Addiction: Skills and Strategies for Emotional Regulation, Recovery, and Relapse Prevention which is chalked full of Recovery tools that are centered in DBT and the 12 Steps, which increasingly enable us achieve the often illusive balance between the extremes we've been accustomed to, and thereby enabling us to become increasingly closer to the people we feel called to be, and this here interview is likewise plum full of spiritual and recovery truth so listen up. Contact Dr. Laura Patracek and learn more about The DBT Workbook for Alcohol and Drug Addiction: Skills and Strategies for Emotional Regulation, Recovery, and Relapse Prevention https://www.laurapetracekphd.com/ https://www.amazon.com/DBT-Workbook-Alcohol-Drug-Addiction/dp/1839972521 Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Soul Silence: A Unique Approach to Mastering the 11th Step by Peter Amato - https://www.amazon.com/Soul-Silence-Unique-Approach-Mastering/dp/0757315305 DBT App: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.swasth.dbtcoach https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dbt-coach/id1452264969 Best Recovery Advice: This too shall pass, One step at time, Hang on keep moving forward, It's easier to stay sober than to get sober Song that symbolizes Recovery: Learning to live by Celia Van Marth (sang during the episode) Don't forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz (c) 2015 - 2023 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-way-out-podcast/message

If you or someone you know is a little "extra," this episode is for you! This episode is an interview with Chelsea Cohen, a Licensed Professional Counselor-Supervisor. We get to have a great conversation (spoiler alert--it's chakra two emotions stuff!) about so many things, including: > Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and what it's premise is. > What is the middle path? > What are the most challenging things people come up against with self awareness, emotions, identifying patterns, and creating positive change in their lives.  Interview outline by minute: 7: DBT is evidence based therapy for people who have difficulty regulating their emotions.  11: What are the steps and goals of DBT? 23: What is “urge surfing?”  25: Finding the “middle path” as the synthesis between opposites. 31:30: What are some “superpowers” of people who feel emotions in the extremes? 32: 30: Nature vs. Nurture? “Orchids and tulips” Austin DBT Associates (ADBTA) is Austin's premier agency for adherent, Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) for adults, adolescents, families and couples. They have immediate openings in the in-person and virtual, adult and adolescent (ages 13-17) DBT and RO-DBT group skills classes. The current group schedule can be found on our website: https://www.adbta.com/our-services. In addition to group skills classes, we continue to offer in-person and virtual individual, couples and family therapy.  Get started or continue on your chakra journey: 3 questions to get you started: Chakra Savvy Quickie Quiz www.jessgouldingl.com/quiz Start with settling into some journaling questions at www.jessgoulding.com/chakras Licensed Professional Counselor-Supervisor specializing in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT). She is originally from the Texas Panhandle and attended the University of Oklahoma where she received her Bachelor of Arts in English. After graduating, Chelsea worked in higher education administration as an academic advisor at the University of California, Santa Barbara. Later Chelsea completed her Master of Arts in Counseling at St. Edward's University where she was a Presidential Fellow and Outstanding Graduate Student in Counseling. Chelsea completed her graduate internship in the DBT Intensive Outpatient Program at Ascension Seton Behavioral Health Care and has been facilitating inpatient, intensive outpatient and outpatient DBT skills training groups since graduating in 2013. Chelsea specializes in treating adults diagnosed with mood, anxiety, personality and substance use disorders. In addition to extensive training in DBT, Chelsea is also trained in Dialectical Behavior Therapy for Substance Use Disorders (DBT-SUD).  Chelsea enjoys working with clients to identify how they can effectively utilize coping skills to maintain sobriety and build a life worth living. In addition to seeing clients in private practice and serving as Director of Operations for Austin DBT Associates, Chelsea is an adjunct faculty member in the School of Behavioral and Social Sciences at St. Edward's University where she teaches Abnormal Psychology. Chelsea resides in Austin, TX with her husband, son, and two dogs.

In this episode Rev. Mikey Noe and Callan Dwan offer an introduction and overview of the Satipatthana Sutta. This discourse outlines the four foundations of mindfulness which are:1st Foundation- Mindfulness of Breath & Body2nd Foundation- Mindfulness of Feeling Tone3rd Foundation- Mindfulness of Mind4th Foundation- Mindfulness of Dhammas The Satipatthana Sutta is available here:https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.010.nysa.html Thanks for listening. I hope you enjoy. Peace & Love. 

On today's practical episode, host Jessica Patay invites DBT expert, Matt Metcalf, to share from his wealth of knowledge about parenting kids who struggle with INTENSE emotions. He explains to us his BIG four tips for parents which include: structure, validating with consequences, remembering parenting is an amateur sport that you are not a “good parent” based on how well your child is doing in the current moment. Matt Metcalf is the founder and owner of DBT Tri-Counties a clinical social work group practice dedicated to the implementation of comprehensive Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and Rincon DBT Families Skills Center which provides Intensive Outpatient services. He is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker who has worked with adolescents and their families for over 15 years. He has a bachelor's degree in psychology from the University of Utah, a master's degree in divinity from Amridge University's Turner School of Theology, and a master's degree in social work from the University of Southern California Dworak-Peck School of Social Work. He is a DBT-Linehan Board of Certification Certified Clinician, and a Beck Institute CBT Certified Clinician who has trained in CBT with the Beck Institute and DBT with Behavioral Tech. He has intensely studied and practiced these therapies in order to best support his clients with a variety of needs, such as social anxiety, panic attacks, PTSD, Mood Disorders, substance abuse, depression and providing support to those who struggle with intense emotions. He is passionate about providing parenting courses on how to use DBT skills when parenting. Find Rincon DBT Website here. Find DBT Tri-Counties here.Brave Together is the podcast for We are Brave Together, a not-for-profit organization based in the USA. The heart of We Are Brave Together is to strengthen, encourage, inspire and validate all moms of children with disabilities and other needs in their unique journeys. JOIN the international community of We Are Brave Together here.Donate to our Retreats and Respite Scholarships here.Donate to keep this podcast going here.Can't get enough of the Brave Together Podcast?Follow our Instagram Page @wearebravetogether or on Facebook.Feel free to contact Jessica Patay via email: jpatay@wearebravetogether.orgIf you have any topic requests or if you would like to share a story, leave us a message here.Please leave a review and rating today! We thank you in advance!

*Content Warning: Mental Illness + Trauma Processing* Allie received her Bachelor of Science in Youth Advocacy from Texas Christian University and graduated with her Masters in Counseling from Dallas Theological Seminary. She works with teens and adults struggling with anxiety, depression, grief, life transitions and self-esteem issues. Allie is trained in EMDR and is passionate about working with clients who have experienced trauma, abuse and PTSD. Allie enjoys working with young pre-marital and married couples. She is also trained in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy and has clinical experience in non-profit and private practice settings. In this episode she shares her own story in healing through counseling, trauma processing, and how the Church can support this conversation. Allie is a dear friend, and we hope that by sharing on these tough topics you have the encouragement to pursue healing in a new way!  Episode Highlights + Allie's Resources on Living Wisely Well Website

Content note for today's episode: we are talking heavily about food, food addiction, dieting, eating disorders, binge eating, and diet culture. If you are particularly sensitive to those topics, please listen at your own discretion. Today we're talking with Molly Carmel. Molly is an addictions and eating disorder therapist with extensive training in substance use and eating disorders with extensive training in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. She's also the author of “Breaking Up with Sugar,” a no-nonsense take on food addiction and unhealthy relationships with sugar and grain flour. Molly is what she calls a “wounded healer,” aka everything that she does as a professional stems from her own healing journey and the desire to help others. She herself struggled for years throughout her early childhood before she was even 10 years old throughout her young adulthood with obesity, food addiction, binge eating, and fad diets, and it was this exact journey that led her to where she is today as a professional creating real change in people's lives. Today, we basically become immediate BFFs, and we dive into all things diet culture, food and diet addiction, the addiction to starting over, the questions you should be asking your healers and coaches before you hire them, the role of spirituality in Molly's journey, and Molly's new revolutionary coaching program coming out on February 5th.This episode is stocked full of wisdom, insight, honesty, personal stories, strength, love, and most of all, passion. You can hear in Molly's voice how deeply she cares about her mission, and it's an incredible mission at that. Without further ado, let's dig into today's episode with Molly Carmel. Molly's Instagram Molly's Website What You're Craving Podcast Interested in a luxury 1:1 online health coaching experience? Look no further than FENIX ATHLETICA, where we fuse science and soul for life-long transformation (inside AND out). Ready for a strong and centered start to 2023? Same dude. Same. That's why I've partnered with Open, a meditation app (or what I prefer calling a digital wellness experience) that combines breathwork, meditation, sound, and movement to strengthen the connection between your mind and your body, and your soul. Head to withopen.com/emdunc to enter the challenge! Follow me on Instagram Follow EMBody Radio on Instagram Shop CURED NUTRITION CBD/Hemp wellness products with code EMILY

Today, we're celebrating our 200th episode of Behavioral Health Today! In this episode, Dr. Graham Taylor speaks with Michael Klinkner. Michael is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with over 22 years of experience helping children, adolescents, and adults in therapy. Michael has specialty training in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, and Neurolinguistic Programming. Currently, Michael is working with Evolve Counseling in Arizona where he treats a variety of issues such as anxiety, depression, trauma, and ADHD, focusing primarily on children, teen, and adolescent populations. Together Graham and Michael discuss the current pressures of teens, how to have tough conversations, connecting with your child by building routines into your day, a foundation for your child's consumption of social media, and the importance of family values and the discussion of those as a family system. All behavior is communication, but if we can give them a different way to do it by coaching the parents up and tooling them, we can see changes actually occur.   For more information about Michael Klinkner and Evolve Counseling, please visit: https://www.evolvecounselingaz.com Connect with Michael on Instagram at michael_klinknercouseling, or visit: https://www.instagram.com/evolvecounseling_AZ/ Finally, connect with Michael on Facebook at michaelklinknercounseling, or visit: https://www.facebook.com/michaelklinknercounseling

Episode Notes Episode Summary Margaret and Smokey talk about ways to go about mental first aid, how to alter responses to trauma for you self and as a community, different paths to resiliency, and why friendship and community are truly the best medicine. Host Info Margaret can be found on twitter @magpiekilljoy or instagram at @margaretkilljoy. Publisher Info This show is published by Strangers in A Tangled Wilderness. We can be found at www.tangledwilderness.org, or on Twitter @TangledWild and Instagram @Tangled_Wilderness. You can support the show on Patreon at www.patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. Next Episode Hopefully will come out Friday, December, 2nd and will probably be This Month In the Apocalypse. Transcript LLWD:Smokey on Mental First Aid Margaret 00:15 Hello and welcome to Live Like the World is Dying, your podcast are what feels like the end times. I'm your host, Margaret killjoy. And, this week or month...or let's just go with 'episode'. This episode is going to be all about mental health and mental health first aid and ways to take care of your mental health and ways to help your community and your friends take care of their mental health, and I think you'll like it. But first, this podcast is a proud member of the Channel Zero network of anarchists podcasts. And here's a jingle from another show on the network. Margaret 01:52 Okay, with me today is Smokey. Smokey, could you introduce yourself with your your name, your pronouns, and I guess a little bit about your background about mental health stuff? Smokey 02:04 Sure, I'm Smokey. I live and work in New York City. My pronouns are 'he' and 'him.' For 23 years, I've been working with people managing serious mental illness in an intentional community, I have a degree in psychology, I have taught psychology at the University level, I have been doing social work for a long time, but I've been an anarchist longer. Margaret 02:43 So so the reason I want to have you on is I want to talk about mental health first aid, or I don't know if that's the way it normally gets expressed, but that's the way I see it in my head. Like how are...I guess it's a big question, but I'm interested in exploring ways that we can, as bad things happen that we experience, like some of the best practices we can do in order to not have that cause lasting mental harm to us. Which is a big question. But maybe that's my first question anyway. Smokey 03:12 I mean, the, the truth is bad things will happen to us. It's part of living in the world, and if you are a person that is heavily engaged in the world, meaning, you know, you're involved in politics, or activism, or even just curious about the world, you will probably be exposed on a more regular basis to things that are bad, that can traumatize us. But even if you're not involved in any of those things, you're going to go through life and have really difficult things happen to you. Now, the good news is, that's always been the case for people. We've always done this. And the good news is, we actually know a lot about what goes into resilience. So, how do you bounce back quickly and hopefully thrive after these experiences? I think that is an area that's only now being really examined in depth. But, we have lots of stories and some research to show that actually when bad things happen to us, there is an approach that actually can help catalyst really impressive strength and move...change our life in a really positive direction. We also know that for most people, they have enough reserve of resiliency that....and they can draw upon other resiliency that they're not chronically affected by it, however, and I would argue how our society is kind of structured, we're seeing more and more people that are suffering from very serious chronic effects of, what you said, bad things happening, or what is often traumatic things but it's not just traumatic things that cause chronic problems for us. But, that is the most kind of common understanding so, so while most people with most events will not have a chronic problem, and you can actually really use those problems, those I'm sorry, those events, let's call them traumatic events, those traumatic events they'll really actually improve your thriving, improve your life and your relationship to others in the world. The fact is, currently, it's an ever growing number of people that are having chronic problems. And that's because of the system. Margaret 06:19 Yeah, there's this like, there was an essay a while ago about it, I don't remember it very well, but it's called "We Are Also Very Anxious," and it it was claiming that anxiety is one of the general affects of society today, because of kind of what you're talking about, about systems that set us up to be anxious all the time and handle things in... Smokey 06:42 I think what most people don't understand is, it is consciously, in the sense that it's not that necessarily it's the desire to have the end goal of people being anxious, and people being traumatized, but it is conscious in that we know this will be the collateral outcome of how we set up the systems. That I think is fairly unique and and really kind of pernicious. Margaret 07:17 What are some of the systems that are setting us up to be anxious or traumatized? Smokey 07:23 Well, I'm gonna reverse it a little bit, Margaret. I'm going to talk about what are the things we need to bounce back or have what has been called 'resilience,' and then you and I can explore how our different systems actually make us being able to access that much more difficult. Margaret 07:47 Okay. Oh, that makes sense. Smokey 07:49 The hallmark of resiliency, ironically, is that it's not individual. Margaret 07:57 Okay. Smokey 07:57 In fact, if you look at the research, there are very few, there's going to be a couple, there's gonna be three of them, but very few qualities of an individual psychology or makeup that is a high predictor of resiliency. Margaret 08:20 Okay. Smokey 08:21 And these three are kind of, kind of vague in the sense they're not, they're not terribly dramatic, in a sense. One is, people that tend to score higher on appreciation of humor, tends to be a moderate predictor of resiliency. Margaret 08:46 I like that one. Smokey 08:47 You don't have to be funny yourself. But you can appreciate humor. Seems to be a....and this is tends to be a cross cultural thing. It's pretty low. There are plenty of people that that score very low on that, that also have resiliency. That's the other thing, I'll say that these three personality traits are actually low predictors of resiliency. Margaret 09:13 Compared to the immunity ones that you're gonna talk about? Smokey 09:16 So one is appreciation of humor seems to be one. So, these are intrinsic things that, you know, maybe we got from our family, but but we hold them in ourselves, right? The second one is usually kind of put down as 'education.' And there tends to be a reverse bell curve. If you've had very, very low education, you tend to be more resilient. If you've had extreme professionalization, you know, being a doctor, being a lawyer, well, not even being a lawyer, because that's the only...but many, many years of schooling, PhD things like that, it's not what you study. There's something about... Smokey 10:10 Yeah, or that you didn't. They're almost equal predictors of who gets traumatized. And then the the last one is kind of a 'sense of self' in that it's not an ego strength as we kind of understand it, but it is an understanding of yourself. The people that take the surveys, that they score fairly high....So I give you a survey and say, "What do you think about Smokey on these different attributes?" You give me a survey and say, "Smokey, how would you rate yourself on these different attributes?" Margaret 10:11 It's that you studied. Margaret 10:32 Okay. Smokey 10:59 So, it's suggesting that I have some self-reflexivity about what my strengths and weaknesses are. I can only know that because they're married by these also. Margaret 11:11 Okay. So it's, it's not about you rating yourself high that makes you resilient, it's you rating yourself accurately tohow other people see you. Smokey 11:18 And again, I want to stress that these are fairly low predictors. Now, you'll read a million books, kind of pop like, or the, these other ones. But when you actually look at the research, it's not, you know, it's not that great. So those..however, the ones that are big are things like 'robustness of the social network.' So how many relations and then even more, if you go into depth, 'what are those relationships' and quantity does actually create a certain level of quality, interestingly, especially around things called 'micro-social interactions,' which are these interactions that we don't even think of as relationships, maybe with storepersons, how many of these we have, and then certain in depth, having that combined with a ring of kind of meaningful relationships. And meaningful meaning not necessarily who is most important to me, but how I share and, and share my emotions and my thoughts and things like that. So, there's a lot on that. That is probably the strongest predictor of resilience. Another big predictor of resilience is access to diversity in our social networks. So, having diverse individuals tend to give us more resiliency, and having 'time,' processing time, also gives us more...are high predictors of resiliency, the largest is a 'sense of belonging.' Margaret 13:14 Okay. Smokey 13:15 So that trauma...events that affect our sense of belonging, and this is why children who have very limited opportunities to feel a sense of belonging, which are almost always completely limited, especially for very young children to the family, if that is cut off due to the trauma, or it's already dysfunctional and has nothing to do with the trauma, that sense of belonging, that lack of sense of belonging makes it very difficult to maintain resilience. So. So those are the things that, in a nutshell, we're going to be talking about later about 'How do we improve these?' and 'How do we maximize?' And 'How do we leverage these for Mental Health First Aid?' We can see how things like the internet, social media, capitalism, you know, kind of nation state building, especially as we understand it today, all these kinds of things errode a lot of those things that we would want to see in building resilient people. Margaret 14:28 Right. Smokey 14:28 And, you know, making it more difficult to access those things that we would need. Margaret 14:34 No, that's...this...Okay, yeah, that makes it obvious that the answer to my question of "What are the systems that deny us resiliency?" are just all of this. Yeah, because we're like....most people don't have...there's that really depressing statistic or the series of statistics about the number of friends that adults have in our society, and how it keeps going down every couple of decades. Like, adults just have fewer and fewer friends. And that... Smokey 15:00 The number, the number is the same for children, though too. Margaret 15:05 Is also going down, is what you're saying? Smokey 15:07 Yes. They have more than adults. But compared to earlier times, they have less. So, the trend is not as steep as a trendline. But, but it is still going down. And more importantly, there was a big change with children at one point, and I'm not sure when it historically happened. But, the number of people they interacted with, was much more diverse around age. Margaret 15:39 Oh, interesting. Smokey 15:40 So they had access to more diversity. Margaret 15:43 Yeah, yeah. When you talk about access to diversity, I assume that's diversity in like a lot of different axis, right? I assume that's diversity around like people's like cultural backgrounds, ethnic backgrounds, age. Like, but even like... Smokey 15:56 Modes of thought. Margaret 15:58 Yeah, well, that's is my guess, is that if you're around more people, you have more of an understanding that like, reality is complicated, and like different people see things in different ways. And so therefore, you have a maybe a less rigid idea of what should happen. So, then if something happens outside of that, you're more able to cope, or is this...does... like, because I look at each of these things and I can say why I assume they affect resiliency, but obviously, that's not what you're presenting, you're not presenting how they affect resiliency, merely that they seem to? Smokey 16:34 Yeah, and I don't know, if we know exactly how they affect, and we don't know how they...the effect of them together, you know, social sciences, still pretty primitive. So they, they need to look at single variables, often. But you know, we know with chemistry and biology and ecology, which I think are a little more sophisticated...and physics, which is more sophisticated. The real interesting stuff is in the combinations. Margaret 17:09 Yeah. Okay. Smokey 17:10 So what happens when you have, you know, diversity, but also this diverse and robust social network? Is that really an addition? Or is that a multiplication moment? For resiliency. Margaret 17:23 Right. And then how does that affect like, if that comes at the expense of...well, it probably wouldn't, but if it came at the expense of processing time or something. Smokey 17:33 Exactly. Margaret 17:35 Or, like, you know, okay, I could see how it would balance with education in that, like, I think for a lot of people the access to diversity that they encounter first is like going off to college, right, like meeting people from like, different parts of the world, or whatever. Smokey 17:49 I forgot to mention one other one, but it is, 'meaning.' Meaning is very important. People that score high, or report, meaning deep, kind of core meaning also tend to have higher resiliency. That being said, they...and don't, don't ever confuse resiliency with like, happiness or contentment. It just means that the dysfunction or how far you're knocked off track due to trauma, and we're, we're using trauma in the larger sense of the word, you know, how long it takes you to get back on track, or whether you can even get back on track to where you were prior to the event is what we're talking about. So it's not, this is not a guide to happiness or living a fulfilled life. It's just a guide to avoid the damage. Margaret 19:01 But if we made one that was a specifically a 'How to have a happy life,' I feel like we could sell it and then have a lot of money.Have you considered that? [lauging] Smokey 19:11 Well one could argue whether that's even desirable to have a happy life. That's a whole philosophical thing. That's well beyond my paygrade Margaret 19:22 Yeah, every now and then I have this moment, where I realized I'm in this very melancholy mood, and I'm getting kind of kind of happy about it. And I'm like, "Oh, I'm pretty comfortable with this. This is a nice spot for me." I mean, I also like happiness, too, but you know. Okay, so, this certainly implies that the, the way forward for anyone who's attempting to build resiliency, the sort of holistic solution is building community. Like in terms of as bad stuff happens. Is that... Smokey 19:58 Community that's...and community not being just groups. Okay, so you can, I think, you know, the Internet has become an expert at creating groups. There lots of groups. But community, or communitas or the sense of belonging is more than just a shared interest and a shared knowledge that there's other like-minded people. You'll hear the internet was great for like minded people to get together. But, the early internet was really about people that were sharing and creating meaning together. And I think that was very powerful. That, you know, that seems harder to access on today's Internet, and certainly the large social media platforms are consciously designed to achieve certain modes of experience, which do not lend themselves to that. Margaret 21:06 Right, because it's like the...I don't know the word for this. Smokey 21:10 It's Capitalism. Like, yeah, we're hiding the ball. The ball is Capitalism. Margaret 21:14 Yeah. Smokey 21:14 And how they decided to go with an advertising model as opposed to any other model, and that requires attention. Margaret 21:21 Yeah. Because it seems like when you talk about a robust social network, I mean, you know, theoretically, social network, like social networks, you know, Twitter calls itself a social network, right? And is there anything in the micro social interactions that one has online? Is there value in that? Or do you think that the overall...I mean, okay, because even like looking at... Smokey 21:46 I think there has to be value, I think, yeah, they did. I was reading just today, actually, about research, it was in England, with...this one hospital decided to send postcards to people who had been hospitalized for suicidal attempts. Margaret 22:09 Okay. Smokey 22:10 Most of them ended up in the mental health thing, some of them didn't, because they they left beyond, you know, against medical advice, or whatever. But, anyone that came in presenting with that a month, and then three months later, they sent another postcard just saying, "You know, we're all thinking about you, we're hoping you're all you're doing, alright. We have faith in you," that kind of thing like that, right. Nice postcard, purposely chosen to have a nice scene, sent it out. And they followed up, and they found a significant reduction in further attempts, rehospitalizations of these people, so that's a very, you know, there's no, it's a one way communication, it's not person-to-person, and it had some impact on I would guess one could argue the resiliency of those people from giving into suicidal ideation. Right. Margaret 23:13 Yeah. Smokey 23:14 So I think this is to say that, you know, we'd be...unplugging the internet, you know, that kind of Luddite approach doesn't make sense. There is a value to answer your question to the the internet's micro social interactions. It's just we...it's complicated, because you can't just have micro-social interactions unfortunately, but you need them. Margaret 23:44 Yeah. No, that that's really interesting to me, because yeah, so there's, there is a lot of value that is coming from these things, but then the overall effect is this like, like, for example, even like access to diversity, right? In a lot of ways, theoretically, the Internet gives you access to like everything. But then, instead, it's really designed to create echo chambers in the way that the algorithms and stuff feed people information. And echo chambers of thought is the opposite of diversity, even if the echo chamber of thought is like about diversity. Smokey 24:16 Yeah, I mean, it's set up again, almost as if it were to kind of naturally organically grow, we would probably have just as chaotic and and people would still just be as angry at the Internet, but it probably would develop more resilience in people. Because it wouldn't be stunted by this need to attract attention. The easiest way to do that is through outrage. Easiest way to do that is quickly and fast, so it takes care of your processing time. And relative anonymity is the coin of these kinds of things, you know, that's why bots and things like that, you know, they're not even humans, right? You know, they're just...so all these kinds of things stunt and deform, what could potentially be useful, not a silver bullet, and certainly not necessary to develop resiliency, strong resiliency. You don't need the internet to do that. And there are certain...using the internet, you know, there's going to be certain serious limitations because of the design, how it's designed. Margaret 25:42 Okay, well, so hear me out. If the internet really started coming in latter half of the 20th century, that kind of lines up to when cloaks went out of style.... Smokey 25:54 Absolutely, that's our big problem. And they haven't done any research on cloak and resiliency. Margaret 26:00 I feel that everyone who wears a cloak either has a sense of belonging, or a distinct lack of a sense of belonging. Probably start off with a lack of sense of belonging, but you end up with a sense of belonging So, okay, okay. Smokey 26:15 So I want to say that there's two things that people confuse and a very important. One, is how to prevent chronic effects from traumatic experiences. And then one is how to take care of, if you already have or you you develop a chronic effect of traumatic experiences. Nothing in the psychology literature, sociology literature, anthropology literature, obviously, keeps you from having traumatic experiences. Margaret 26:52 Right. Smokey 26:54 So one is how to prevent it from becoming chronic, and one is how to deal with chronic and they're not the same, they're quite, quite different. So you know, if you already have a chronic traumatic response of some sort, post traumatic stress syndrome, or any of the other related phenomena, you will approach that quite differently than building resilience, which doesn't protect you from having trauma, a traumatic experience. It just allows you to frame it, understand it, maybe if you're lucky, thrive and grow from it. But at worst, get you back on track in not having any chronic problems. Margaret 27:48 Okay, so it seems like there's three things, there's the holistic, building a stronger base of having a community, being more resilient in general. And then there's the like direct first aid to crisis and trauma, and then there's the long term care for the impacts of trauma. Okay, so if so, we've talked a bit about the holistic part of it, you want to talk about the the crisis, the thing to do in the immediate sense as it's happening or whatever? Smokey 28:15 For yourself or for somebody else? Margaret 28:18 Let's start with self. Smokey 28:20 So, self is go out and connect to your social network as much as you can, which is the opposite of what your mind and body is telling you. And that's why I think so much of the quote unquote, "self-care" movement is so wrong. You kind of retreat from your social network, things are too intense, I'm going to retreat from your social network. The research suggests that's the opposite of what you should be doing, you should connect. Now, if you find yourself in an unenviable situation where you don't have a social network, then you need to connect to professionals, because they, they can kind of fill in for that social Network. Therapists, social workers, peer groups, support groups, things like that they can kind of fill in for that. The problem is you don't have that sense of belonging. Well, with support groups, you might. You see this often in AA groups or other support groups. You don't really get that in therapy or or group therapy so much. But that is the first thing and so connect to your group. Obviously on the other side, if you're trying to help your community, your group, you need to actively engage that person who has been traumatized. Margaret 29:33 Yeah, okay. Smokey 29:35 And it's going to be hard. And you need to keep engaging them and engaging them in what? Not distractions: Let's go to a movie, get some ice cream, let's have a good time. And not going into the details of the traumatic experience so much as reconnecting them to the belonging, our friendship, if that. Our political movement, if that. Our religious movement, if that. Whatever that...whatever brought you two together. And that could be you being the community in this person, or could be you as Margaret in this person connecting on that, doubling down on that, and often I see people do things like, "Okay, let's do some self care, or let's, let's do the opposite of whatever the traumatic experience was," if it came from, say oppression, either vicarious or direct through political involvement let's, let's really connect on a non-political kind of way. Margaret 31:19 Ah I see! Smokey 31:21 And I'm saying, "No, you should double down on the politics," reminding them of right what you're doing. Not the trauma necessarily not like, "Oh, remember when you got beaten up, or your, your significant other got arrested or got killed by the police," but it's connecting to meaning, and bringing the community together. Showing the resiliency of the community will vicariously and contagiously affect the individual. And again, doesn't have to be political could be anything. Margaret 32:01 Yeah. Is that? How does that that feels a little bit like the sort of 'get right back on the horse kind of thing.' But then like, in terms of like, socially, rather than, because we 'get back on the horse,' might mean might imply, "Oh, you got beat up at a riot. So go out to the next riot." And that's what you're saying instead is so "Involve you in the fundraising drive for the people who are dealing with this including you," or like... Smokey 32:28 And allowing an expectation that the individual who's been traumatized, might be having a crisis of meaning. And allowing that conversation, to flow and helping that person reconnect to what they found meaningful to start with. So getting right back on the horse again, it's reminding them why they love horses. Margaret 33:02 Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, I have another question about the the crisis first aid thing, because there's something that, you know, something that you talked to me about a long time ago, when I was working on a lot of like reframing. I was working on coping with trauma. And so maybe this actually relates instead to long term care for trauma. And I, I thought of this as a crisis first aid kind of thing, is I'll use a like, low key example. When I was building my cabin, I'm slightly afraid of heights, not terribly, but slightly. And so I'm on a ladder in the middle of nowhere with no one around and I'm like climbing up the ladder, and I'm nailing in boards. And I found myself saying, "Oh, well, I only have three more boards. And then I'm done. I can get off the ladder. "And then I was like, "No, what I need to do is say, it's actually fine, I am fine. And I can do this," rather than like counting down until I can get off the ladder. And so this is like a way that I've been working on trying to build resiliency, you can apply this to lots of things like if I'm on an airplane, and I'm afraid of flying or something I can, instead of being like, "Five more hours and then we're there. Four more hours and then we're there," instead of being like, "It's actually totally chill that I'm on an airplane. This is fine." And basically like telling myself that to reframe that. Is this....Am I off base with this? Is this tie into this, there's just a different framework? Smokey 34:27 That is what the individual should be trying to do is connect the three different things, keeping it simple. One, is to the community which gives them nourishment. On a plane or on your roof, that's not going to happen. Margaret 34:44 Yeah. Smokey 34:45 Though, actually, to be honest. If you're nervous and you have...go back to your roof example, which I think is a pretty good one. Let's say that you had more than three boards. Let's say it was gonna take you a couple hours to do that. But it's something you're nervous about, connecting to somebody in your social network, whether you, you have your earphones on, and you're just talking to them before or during...after doesn't help. That does one way. Or the other is connecting to what you were doing, which is connecting to kind of reframing or your own internal resilience. I've done something similar like this before. This is not something that is going to need to throw me, it is what's called pocketing the anxiety. Margaret 35:45 Okay. Smokey 35:45 Where you're other-izing it, being like, it's coming from you too, right? being like, "Hey, you could fall. This plane could go down," right? That that's still you, you're generating that. You're not hearing that over to, and you're saying, "Okay, but I'm going to try, you know, give primacy to this other voice in my head. That is saying, "You've got this, it's all right, you've done things like this before."" So that's the second thing. And that's what you were doing. So you could connect to your community, you could connect to kind of a reserve of resiliency. And to do that is allow that one to be pocketed. But be like, "Hey, I want to hear from what this core thing has to say. I want to hear from what the positive person on the front row has to say." You're not arguing with that one. You're just listening. You're changing your, your, what you're attuned to. And then the third one is, if you can, you connect to the meaning. What is the meaning of building the house for you? Where are you going on your flight? And why is it important? Margaret 37:03 Yeah. Okay, Smokey 37:05 And that anxiety and the fact that you're doing it, you want to give again, the primacy to the importance, that "Yeah, I'm really nervous, I'm really freaked out about this, but this thing is so important, or so good for me, or so healthy for me to do this. This must mean it's going to be really important. And I'm connecting to why it's important and focusing on that. So those are the three things that the individual can do. The helping person or community is engagement. The second one is the same, reconnecting to the meaning. Why did you love horses in the first place? Okay, don't have to get back on the horse. But let's not forget horses are awesome. Margaret 37:58 Yeah. Smokey 37:58 And Horseback riding is awesome. Margaret 38:01 Yeah. Smokey 38:01 And you were really good at it before you got thrown. But you know, you don't have to do it now, but let's, let's just let's just share our love of horses for a moment and see how that makes you feel. And then the third one is that kind of drawing upon, instead of drawing upon the individual resilience, which you were doing, like, "Hey, I got this," or the plane, you know, you were, you're hearing from other people, you're drawing upon their individual resilience. "Smokey, tell me about the time you did this thing that was hard." And I tell ya, you're like, "Well, Smokey can fucking do that I can do it. You don't even think...it doesn't even work necessarily consciously. Margaret 38:50 Right. Smokey 38:51 So you could see that what you're doing individually, the helper or the community is doing complementary. Margaret 38:59 Yeah. Smokey 39:00 And now you can see why a lot of self care narrative, a lot of taking a break a lot of burnout narrative, all these things, at best aren't going to help you and at worst, in my opinion, are kind of counterproductive. Margaret 39:17 Well, and that's the, to go to the, you know, working on my roof thing I think about...because I've had some success with this. I've had some success where I....there's certain fears that I have, like, suppressed or something like I've stopped being as afraid of...the fear is no longer a deciding factor in my decision making, because of this kind of reframing this kind of like, yeah, pocketing like...And it's probably always useful to have the like, I don't want to reframe so completely that I just walk around on a roof all the time, without paying attention to what I'm doing, right?Because people do that and then they fall and the reason that there's a reason that roofing is one of the most dangerous jobs in America. So a, I don't know I yeah, I, I appreciate that, that you can do that. And then if it's a thing you're going to keep doing anyway, it becomes easier if you start handling it like, carefully, you know? Smokey 40:17 Well, you don't want to give it too much. So why do we? Why is it natural for us to take anxiety or fear and focus on it? It's somewhat evolutionary, right? It's a threat, right? It's supposed to draw your attention, right? It's supposed to draw your attention. And if you're not careful, it will draw your attention away from other things that are quieter that like that resiliency in the front row you need to call on, because they're not as flashy, right? So I don't think you have to worry about threat....You're right. You don't want to get to the point where you and that's why I say 'pocket it,' as opposed to 'deny it, suppress it, argue with it. demolish it.' I think it's good to have that little, "Beep, beep, beep there's a threat," and then being like, "Okay, but I want to continue to do this. Let's hear from resiliency in the front row. What? What do you have to tell me too?" You have to not...what happens is we go into the weeds of the threat. Oh, so what? "Oh, I fall off and I compound fracture, and I'm way out here in the woods, and no one's going to get me. My phone isn't charged." That's not what the original beep was. Original beep like, "You're high up on a ladder, seems unstable. This seems sketchy," right? Okay. Got that. And then resilience is, "Yeah, you've done lots of sketchy stuff. You've written in the back of a pickup truck. That's sketchy, so seatbelt there, nothing, you know, let me remind you that that you can overcome." And, but by going into the anxiety, going into the fear, you're forcing yourself to justify the thing. And then it becomes more and more elaborate, and it gets crazier and crazier very quickly. You know, all of sudden, you're bleeding out and you're cutting your leg off with a pen knife. It's like, "Wow, how did all this happen?" Margaret 42:38 Yeah, well, and that's actually something that comes up a lot in terms of people interacting with the show and about like preparedness in general. Because in my mind, the point of paying attention to how to deal with forest fire while I live in the woods, is not to then spend all of my time fantasizing and worrying about forest fire. But instead, to compare it to this ladder, if I get this "Beep, beep, the ladder is unstable." I climb down, I stabilize the ladder as best as I can. And then I climb back up and I do the thing. And then when I think about like, with fire, I'm like, "Okay, I have done the work to minimize the risk of fire. And so now I can stop thinking about it." Like, I can listen to the little beep, beep noise and do the thing. And now I can ignore the beep beep because just like literally, when you're backing up a truck and it goes beep, beep, you're like, yeah, no, I know, I'm backing up. Thanks. You know, like, Smokey 43:35 Yeah, it's good to know, it's good to know, you're not going forward. Margaret 43:39 Yeah, no. No, okay. That's interesting. And then the other thing that's really interesting about this, the thing that you're presenting, is it means that in some ways, work that we present as very individual in our society, even in radical society, is actually community based on this idea, like so conquering phobias is something that we help one another do, it seems like, Smokey 44:02 Absolutely. I mean, the best stuff on all this stuff is that people reverse engineering it to make people do dangerous, bad things. The military. Margaret 44:18 Yeah, they're probably pretty good at getting people to conquer phobias. Yep. Smokey 44:21 They have a great sense of belonging. They have a great sense of pulling in internal resilient, group resilient, connecting to meaning even when it's absolutely meaningless what you're doing. It's all the dark side of what we're talking about, but it's quite effective and it literally wins wars. Margaret 44:47 Yeah, that makes sense. Because you have this whole... Smokey 44:50 Literally it changes history. And so, the good news is, we can kind of reclaim that for what I think it was originally purposed to do, which is to protect us from the traumas that we had to go through in our evolutionary existence. So we couldn't afford to have a whole bunch of us chronically disabled. Meaning unable to function, you know, they've just taken it and, and bent it a little bit, and learned very deeply about it, how to how to use it for the things that really cause, you know, physical death and injury. And, and, you know, obviously, they're not perfect, you have a lot of trauma, but not, not as much as you would expect for what they do. And every year they get better and better. Margaret 45:51 Hooray. Smokey 45:53 We have to get on top of our game. Margaret 45:56 Yeah. Smokey 45:57 And get people not to do what they do. I'm not suggesting reading...well maybe reading military, but not...you can't use those tools to make people truly free and resilient. Margaret 46:17 Yeah. Smokey 46:18 In the healthy kind of way. Yeah. Margaret 46:22 Okay, so in our three things, there's the holistic, prepared resiliency thing, then there's the immediate, the bad thing is happening first aid. Should we talk about what to do when the thing has, when you have the like, the injury, the mental injury of the trauma? Smokey 46:42 Like with most injuries, it's rehab, right? Margaret 46:45 Yeah. No, no, you just keep doing the thing, and then hope it fixes itself. [laughs] Smokey 46:53 My approach to most medical oddities that happen as I get older, it's like, "It'll fix itself, this tooth will grow back, right? The pain will go away, right?" Yeah, just like physical rehab, it does require two important aspects for all physical, what we think of when someone says I have to go to rehab, physical rehab, not not alcohol rehab, or psych rehab, is that there's two things that are happening. One, is a understanding, a deep understanding of the injury, often not by the person, but by the physical therapist. Right? That if they know, okay, this is torn meniscus, or this is this and I, okay, so I understand the anatomy, I understand the surgery that happened. Okay. And then the second is, short term, not lifelong therapy, not lifelong this or that. Short term techniques to usually strengthen muscles and other joints and things around the injury. Okay. And that's what, what I would call good recovery after you already have the injury. It's not after you've had the traumatic experience, because traumatic experience doesn't necessarily cause a chronic injury, and we're trying to reduce the number of chronic injuries, but chronic injuries are going to happen. chronic injuries already exist today. A lot of the people we know are walking around with chronic injuries that are impacting their ability to do what they want to do and what in my opinion, we need them to do, because there's so much change that needs to happen. We need everybody as much as possible to be working at their ability. So wherever we can fix injury, we should. So so one is where do I get an understanding of how this injury impacts my life? And I think different cognitive psychology, I think CBT, DBT, these things are very, very good in general. Margaret 49:22 I know what those are, but can you explain. Smokey 49:22 Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. These all come out of cognitive psychology from the 50s. Our techniques, but most therapists use versions of this anyway. So just going to therapy, what it is doing initially, is trying to, like the physical therapist, tell you, "This is the injury you have. This is why it's causing you to limp, or why you have weakness in your arm and wrist. And what we're going to do is we're going to give you some techniques to build up, usually the muscles, or whatever else needs to be built up around it so that you will be able to get more use out of your hand." And that is what we need to do with people that have this chronic injury. So, one, is you need to find out how the injury is impacting. So, I'm drinking more, I'm getting angry more, or I'm having trouble making relationships, or I'm having, and there's a series of, you know, 50 year old techniques to really kind of get down and see, okay, this injury is causing these things, that's how it's impacting me, and I don't want to drink more, or I want to be able to sleep better, or I want to be able to focus, or I want to be able to have meaningful relationship with my partner or my children or whatever, whatever that is, right? And then there are techniques, and they're developing new techniques, all the time, there's like EMDR, which is an eye thing that I don't fully understand. There DBT, dialectical behavioral therapy, has a lot of techniques that you kind of practice in groups. As you know, we have mutual aid cell therapy, MAST, which is also a group where you're sharing techniques to build up these different things and resilience. So, community, and meaning, and all those...reframing all those kinds of things. So, but they shouldn't, despite the length of the injury, how long you've been injured, how long you've been limping, and how much it's affected other parts of your psychic body in a way. These are things that still should be able to be remediated relatively quickly. Smokey 49:31 That's exciting. Yeah. Smokey 50:10 But this is not a lifelong thing. Now, that doesn't mean, if you're traumatized as a child for example, it's sort of like if you've completely shattered your wrist bone, and they've put in pins and things like that, that wrist, may never have the flexibility, it did, the actual wrist bone, you know, the bones in the wrist. But by building muscles, and other things around it, you could then theoretically have full flexibility that you had before, right? But it's not the actual wrist bone, but that that injury is still there. You've built up...Sometimes it's called strength-based approach or model where you're building up other strengths, you have to relieve the impact that that injury, so like, a common thing with with trauma is trust. My trust is very damaged. My ability to trust others, or trust certain environments, or maybe trust myself, right, is completely damaged. So if, if my...and that may never fully heal, that's like my shattered wrist bone. So then, by building up, let's say, I don't trust myself, I did something, really fucked up myself, you know, psychologically, traumatically, but by building up trust in others, and then in the environment, or other things, that can mediate that damage or vice versa. Margaret 53:53 You mean vice versa, like if you? Smokey 53:59 Like, if my problem is a trust of others, or trust with strangers, or trust with friends, you know, I've been betrayed in a really traumatic way by my mother, or my father or uncle or something like that then, you know, building up my friendships to a really strong degree will reduce and eventually eliminate, hopefully erase the impact of that injury on the rest of my life. I'm not doomed to have dysfunctional relationships, lack of sleep, alcoholism or whatever are the symptoms of that traumatic event, that chronic traumatic event. Margaret 54:54 Okay, so my next question is, and it's sort of a leading question, you mentioned MAST earlier and I kind of want to ask, like, do we need specialists for all of this? Do we have people who both generalize and specialize in this kind of thing? Are there ways that, you know, we as a community can, like, get better at most of this stuff while then some of it like, you know, obviously people specialize in and this remains useful? Like... Smokey 55:22 You need. I wouldn't say...You need, you do need specialists, not for their knowledge, per se so much as they're there for people that the injury has gone on so long that the resiliency, all those other things, they don't have a social network, they haven't had time, because the damage happened so early to build up those reserves, that that person in the front row, the front row, the seats are empty. That is, it's really great we live...Now, in other cultures, the specialists were probably shamans, religious people, mentors, things like that, that said, "Okay, my role is to," all therapy is self therapy. That was Carl Rogers, he was quite correct about that. The specialist you're talking about are the kind of stand in for people who don't have people to do that. I would argue all real therapy is probably community therapy. It's relational. So if you have friends, if you have community, if you have a place, or places you find belonging, then theoretically, no, I don't think you need....I think those groups, and I think most specialists would agree to actually, those groups, if they're doing this can actually do a much better job for that individual. They know that individual and there's a natural affinity. And there there are other non specifically therapeutic benefits for engaging in re engaging in these things that have nothing to do with the injury that are just healthy, and good to you. So sort of like taking Ensure, Ensure will keep you alive when you're you've had some surgery, you've had some really bad injury, or if you need saline solution, right? But we're not suggesting people walk around with saline bags. There are better ways to get that, more natural ways to get that. I'm not talking alternative, psychiatric or, you know, take herbs instead of psychiatric medication. But there are better ways to do that. And I think, but I'm glad we have saline. Margaret 58:08 Yeah, Smokey 58:08 I think it saves a lot of people's lives. But, we would never give up the other ways to get nutrients because of other benefits to it. You know, sharing a meal with people is also a really good thing. Margaret 58:21 And then even like from a, you know, the advantages of community, etc. I'm guessing it's not something that's like magically imbued in community. It's like can be something that communities need to actually learn these skills and develop like, I mean, there's a reason that well, you know, I guess I'm reasonably open about this. I used to have like fairly paralyzing panic attacks, and then it started generalizing. And then, you know, a very good cognitive behavioral therapist gave me the tools with which to start addressing that. And that wasn't something I was getting from....I didn't get it from my community in the end, but I got it from a specific person in the community, rather than like, everyone already knows this or something. Smokey 59:03 Well, I think what we're doing right here is, is....I mean, people don't know. So they read....People were trying to help you from your community. Undoubtedly, with the right. intentions, and the right motives, but without the information on what actually works. Margaret 59:27 Yep. Smokey 59:28 And that's all that was happening there. Margaret 59:30 Yeah, totally. Smokey 59:31 So, it's really, you know, as cliche as it sound. It's really about just giving people some basic tools that we already had at one time. Margaret 59:44 Yeah. Smokey 59:45 Forgot, became specialized. So you know, I'm throwing around CBT, DBT, EMDR. None of that people can keep in their head. They will....The audience listening today are not going to remember all those things. And nor do they have to. But they have to know that, you know, reconnecting to the horse, but not telling people to get back on the horse, that kind of tough love kind of thing isn't going to work, but neither is the self care, take a bubble bath... Margaret 1:00:19 Never see a horse again, run from a horse. Smokey 1:00:21 Never see a horse, again, we're not even going to talk about horses, let's go do something else, isn't going to work either. And I think once we...you know, it's not brain science...Though it is. [laughs] It is pretty, you know, these are, and you look at how religions do this, you know, you look at how the military does this, you look at how like, fascists do this, you know, all sorts of groups, communities can do this fairly effectively. And it doesn't cost money. It's not expensive. You don't have to be highly educated or read all the science to be able to do that. And people naturally try, but I think a lot of the self help kind of gets in the way. And some people think they know. "Okay, well, this is what needs to happen, because I saw on Oprah." That kind of thing. " Margaret 1:01:26 Yeah, Well, I mean, actually, that's one of the main takeaways that's coming from me is I've been, I've been thinking a lot about my own mental health first aid on a fairly individual basis, right? You know, even though it was community, that helped me find the means by which to pull myself out of a very bad mental space in that I was in for a lot of years. But I still, in the end was kind of viewing it as, like, "Ah, someone else gave me the tools. And now it's on me." It's like this individual responsibility to take care of myself. And, and so that's like, one of the things that I'm taking as a takeaway from this is learning to be inter-reliant. Smokey 1:02:06 There isn't enough research on it, again, because of our individualistic nature, and probably because of variables. But there's certainly tons of anecdotal evidence, and having done this for a long time talking to people and how the place I work is particularly set up, helping others is a really great way to help yourself. Margaret 1:02:30 Yeah. Smokey 1:02:31 it really works. It's very, I mean, obviously, in the Greeks, you know, you have the 'wounded healer,' kind of concept. Many indigenous traditions have said this much better than the Western. And I believe they have...and they needed to, but they had a much better kind of understanding of these things that we're we're talking about. You know, it. So, where people can...and I've heard this podcast, your podcast too, talking about this ability to be, you know, have self efficacy. But it's more than self efficacy. It's really helping others. Margaret 1:03:22 Yeah. Smokey 1:03:23 And that, that is really powerful. And there's not enough research on that. And I think that's why support groups, I think that's why, you know, AA, despite all its problems, has spread all over the world and has been around for, you know, 75 years, and is not going to go away anytime soon. Despite some obvious problems, is there's that there's that... they hit upon that they they re discovered something that we always kind of knew. Margaret 1:03:59 Yeah. Okay, well, we're coming out of time. We're running out of time. Are there any last thoughts, things that I should have asked you? I mean, there's a ton we can talk about this, and I'll probably try and have you on to talk about more specifics in the near future. But, is there anything anything I'm missing? Smokey 1:04:15 No, I think I think just re emphasizing the end piece that you know, for people that have resources, communities, meaning, social network, you know, that is worth investing your time and your energy into because that's going to build your...if you want to get psychologically strong, that is the easiest and the best investment, Put down the self help book. Call your friend. You know, don't search Google for the symptoms of this, that, or the other thing. Connect to what's important to you. And then lastly, try to help others or help the world in some way. And those are going to be profound and effective ways to build long lasting resilience as an individual. As a community, we should design our communities around that. Margaret 1:05:35 Yeah. All right. Well, that seems like a good thing to end on. Do you have anything that you want to plug like, I don't know books about mutual aid self therapy or anything like that? Smokey 1:05:46 I want to plug community. 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