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A Pulaski County man is happy to be safe And at home after a scary incident near Lake Cumberland. -Jared Arnett spotted a Bigfoot in the woods about a week ago.  He took some amazing photographs of the beast. -He posted: "Look what I Just spotted at Lake Cumberland, not the first time I've seen it either. This is real." “At first I thought it was a grizzly bear, but once I got a better look at it I realized it was definitely a Sasquatch.” -The alleged Sasquatch was observed standing on its two hind legs and covered in matted fur throughout its body. Before it slipped back into the woods. -The Pulaski County Sheriff's Department is currently examining these photographs, They are expected to verify their authenticity soon. This is a developing story. BUT through my thorough research I have found that the Bigfoot looks exactly like the Sasquatch in pictures taken at East Fork Lake and Stone Lick Park. …Also, Claims of the same bigfoot were at Table Rock Lake in Missouri.

HSPが生きづらいのは自明であり、 HSPが生きづらいといくら叫んでも、HSPではない人たちにはピンとこないのも自明なのですが、 HSPの方たちから「普通になりたい」という絞り出すような言葉を聞くことがあります。 エレイン・アーロン先生がこの質問に答えているブログを読み、思ったことをお話しました。 アーロン先生の記事：Why Can't I Just be Normal?

In this episode I talk about what the first week at a marijuana cultivation center. I Just work in the packaging department but I'm at least in the building which is very exiting. I apologize for the late episode but I hope you enjoy. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/roger-ramos1/support

Vuelven los años 80. Ahora 80s. Llevamos 40 años para sacarnos de encima esa dichosa década. En este programa de Achilitime se intenta explicar dos cosas. Por un lado, que el rumbero que esté libre de versión que tire la primera piedra. Y por otro que los detonantes siempre han sido los mismos. Oigamos. Empieza el programa con el "Hotel California" de los Eagles de 1976, astutamente reinterpretado por los Gipsy Kings en 1990. Un año antes de la Olimpiada. Un año antes de que Peret reemprendiera su carrera tras 10 años en "el culto". Catorce años después de que fuera un hit mundial en su versión original. Ojo, en las emisoras españolas suena a diario en casi todas -no es broma-, así entenderás (si lees esto desde fuera de España -help-) que es lo que se entiende aquí por cultura, o por radio. De vuelta. La versión del "Hotel California" es un superhit planetario que posiciona para siempre en el top de la rumba a los franceses Gipsy Kings. Sorprendentemente es una adaptación autorizada del tema. Para traducir o adaptar la lírica de una canción se han de seguir unos tramites burocráticos estrictos. Escuchen esta letra del Hotel California en castellano e intenten creer que ustedes lo entienden. Un año después los Manolos aplican la misma ecuación y rescatan el "All My Loving" de 1964 de The Beatles y sorpresa: también lo petan. La casualidad. ¿Parece fácil no?. Sigamos, en 1995 Kiko Veneno cae en la cuenta y recupera el "Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again" de Bob Dylan de 1976 y lo transforma en su "Memphis Blues Again". No es super ventas pero despunta bastante. Pero estos temas citados, con los que arranca el programa son anteriores a los 80s. Así pues, aunque el programa se hubiera llamado como su carátula Now 80s, tras oírlo recordad: no hace falta hacer más versiones por rumba de canciones ochenteras. Ni anteriores. ¿O si?.Llegamos al tramo de los ochentas. Festival de intentos. El "Another Brick In The Wall" hit de Pink Floyd de 1980, se transformó en "Y los Niños con las motos" de Los Guachis en 2007: ¿tarde?. El "Back in Black" de 1980 de los ACDC lo recupera en 2009 Tomasito: curioso. El "Me No Pop I/Que Pasa" de Coati Mundi también de 1980 lo reciclan Achilifunk Sound System en 2016 con más pena que gloria: otro fracaso. Los Manolos recuperan en 1994 el "Que te quiero" de Katrina & the Waves de 1983: nada. Manzanita transforma el "Karma Chameleon" de Culture Club de 1983 en "Dame una solución" en el año 2001, adaptando con cariño letra incluso y soportando el consecuente trámite de pedir permiso a Boy George. Preciosa versión, nula repercusión. Sigamos, en 1991 Rumbeat versionea el "I Just call yo Say i Love you" de Stevie Wonder de 1984 en pitinglish sin alcanzar las cotas de horterismo del original. Otros que lo bordan, en 2011 el combo de Girona llamado Hermano Loco adaptan como "Triangulo de Amor Raro" el "Bizarre Love Triangle" de New Order de 1986. El tema estuvo a punto de ser editado en un recopilatorio japonés tras dar permiso la editorial y ser autorizada por el mismísimo Peter Hook. Lástima, podría haber tenido algún recorrido.Seguimos, Los Amaya versionan el "Englishman in New York" 1987 de Sting en pitinglish. Traducen el título como "Un Inglés en Nueva York" pero no se adapta la letra, lástima. Años después, en 2003, el combo Che Sudaka la transforma, adapta y traduce a su gusto -desconocemos si legalmente- y la llama "Sin Papeles" en su primer cd "Trippie Town" (K Industria, 2003). Tampoco sabemos si debieron de escuchar U2 su "With or without you" de 1987 cuando acabó siendo en 2012 "Dame Churrasco" en la voz de Rumba Tarumba, enésima escisión de Los Manolos: mejor no. El "Yé Ké Yé Ké" de Mory Kante de 1987 en la voz de Los Lachós ("Yeke Yeke" 1988) seguramente se debió de oír hasta en Guinea, además sólo tardaron un año en replicarla. Un hit underground de la tecno rumba acamelada que tuvo otros discípulos aventajados en Sándalo, que sacaron un Lp repleto de versiones 80s y hasta el "All That She Wants" (1993) de Ace of Base que ellos llamaron "Desnúdate" 1994 en la linea de las adaptaciones españolas de de títulos de películas. Antes y siguiendo la cronología de este Achilitime oirás el "Where is My Mind" de Pixies (1988) transformado en la rumba "¿Me Lo Dices O Me Lo Cuentas?" diez años después por Azucarillo Kings, con notable repercusión en los circuitos undergrounds de desmelene. Y una versión inédita del "Smell Like Teen Spirit" de Nirvana de 1991 grabada como maqueta por Gertrudis en 2009 cuando aún eran un combo de rumba. El programa acaba con el "Wonderwall" de Oasis, perpetrada por Los Sobraos. Basta oírla para entender el apelativo del grupo.Un flashback a los dulces ochentas por rumba, tecno rumba y gipsy rock, donde el oportunismo y oportunidad se confunden con el riesgo y éxito. La rumba, como el reggae o cualquier genero en si mismo, tiene la capacidad de fagocitar del pop más ñoño al heavy pasando por el afrobeat o reggae. Ahí estriba su grandeza como género musical.

Hey, you. Glad to have you here for Epi258 of Succotash, the Comedy Soundcast Soundcast, where I, Marc Hershon, am Mixin' Up a Mess O' Soundcasts this week. Details on what shows I'm featuring in a sec but first, did you miss last week's Epi 257, hosted by my alternating co-host Mr. Tyson Saner? He featured a triumphant trio of soundcast clips from Blake's Takes for God's Sakes, Good Game Nice Try, and Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard. You can always grab that or any other previous installment of Succotash right on our homsight, at SuccotashShow.com. Or pretty much anywhere else you normally gobble up your soundcast treats: Apple and Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, iHeart Radio…search for Succotash Show on the web and we're sure to pop up. As for what I've got in store for you this time around, I'm going a little differently that usual. I normally harvest four clips from various comedy soundcasts but I've got kind of a mixed bag special for you. A combo platter, if you will. There are some brand new shows and a smattering of things from a few years ago. We'll be hearing from Patton Oswalt and Meredith Salanger in the new Did You Get My Text?; a couple of comedy sketch commercials from Left-Handed Radio; May Contain Nuts, a BBC soundcast from Scotland; Stay F. Homekins, the pandemic-inspired show from Paul F. Tompkins, and a mini-clip from The Midnight Miracle by Dave Chapelle and assorted co-hosts. In addition, I'll be featuring a clip from the Jock Doc Podcast. Yes, I featured the JDP on my last installment, it's true. BUT this clip features yours truly appearing as a character on the most recent installment of Dr. London Smith's show and, gosh, I'd hate for you to miss a minute of me! Plus this episode is sponsored by Henderson's Pants new Down Under Pants, mate! Here's something I forget to mention a lot of these shows but if you're like to read what I have to say about comedy soundcasts and not just listen to me blather on, I am part of the squad that writes the this Week in Comedy Podcasts column over on Vulture.com each week. We each pick one and write about 200 words about it. That column drops every Thursday, usually, and this week I'm reviewing…well, that would be telling. Suffice it to say that I will be reviewing one of the shows that I am clipping in this very episode. In fact, it might be this first clip… CLIPS Did You Get My Text?…Which is from the first episode of a brand new soundcast. It's called Did You Get My Text? And features comedian Patton Oswalt and his wife, Meredith Salenger, who – according to the show blurb – live in the same house yet text each other more than people who live across the country from one another. Here, they sit down and go through their texts together. Our clip is about a photo Patton texted to Meredith which you might have seen. It got quite a bit of attention. It's a woman being interviewed on the news from her home and in the background, displayed prominently on a bookshelf, is the kind of object you normally wouldn't be showing off. The Jock Doc PodcastNext up is a clip from The Jock Doc Podcast. And yes, yes I know I JUST featured a clip from Dr. London Smith and Cameron week before last because they uploaded it to us. But THIS clip is different. It's special. It's got ME in it! But not just me, I'm playing a zany character with a bad French accent. I play Guy Niçoise, a “reclaimed food chef”. Which means he makes meals out of garbage, basically. Bon apetít! Left-Handed RadioA podcast crew that has been around even longer than your Succotash family is Left-Handed Radio. Started in 2010, a year before us, it is hosted by Anna Rubanova and Adam Bozarth. It's largely a collection of original comedy sketches and parodies, mostly of public radio shows and ads. Their publicist, Heidi Vanderlee, from Positive Jam PR, sent me a couple of their spots for Father's Day, which was just this past Sunday. Let's listen together… May Contain NutsFor this next clip we leave the States and head for Scotland. BBC Scotland, to be exact, and a TV show AND a soundcast called May Contain Nuts, to be exacter. This clip is from episode 6 of Series 3 that dropped a year ago this month. The show touts itself as being about “Four hosts, one subject, no script,” and features hosts Stuart Condy, Russell Miller, Chris Miller and Craig-James Moncur. This clip is from a show all about Stonehenge and these guys are pretty funny. I think. Their Scottish burrs are so thick I had to listen a couple or twelve times to get it all, so don't be afraid to hit that rewind button. Stay F. HomekinsWhat did soundcasting mainstay Paul f. Tompkins and his wife Janie Haddad Tompkins do during the COVID-19 lockdown? They produced a soundcast of course, called Stay F. Tompkins. And it's still going, although I'm not sure how much longer they'll be keeping it going – Paul's got to get back to visiting all those other soundcasts! In this clip, Paul starts to get into having been a guest on Larry King's show… The Midnight MiracleThe Midnight Miracle is a soundcast that came out of a summer camp that Dave Chapelle put on in Ohio. The show description calls it “a thought-provoking podcast that uniquely blends the salon and variety show traditions while providing a glimpse into the inner lives of hosts Talib Kweli, yasiin bey, Dave Chappelle, and friends.” It's available under Apple Podcasts' new paid subscription model which can frankly go fuck itself. So I couldn't get an ordinary clip from the show BUT they released this two minute blurp – that's a cross between a blip and a blurb – so here you go… You had enough? Me, too. Be sure to pop in next week for Tyson Saner and Episode 259's rasher of soundcast clippage. Remember to give a listen to me guesting on the Jock Doc Podcast. If you want advanced voting rights, I guess you'll have to find someplace more forward-thinking that the USA. And if anyone asks if you've heard anything good lately, feel free to pass that ol' devil Succotash! — Marc Hershon

How is Chinese culture different from American culture? For what reasons do Chinese people get plastic surgery, and how do those reasons differ from those of their American counterparts? What is love addiction? Are 12-step programs the only way (or the best way) of overcoming addiction? Ava King is an international singer, songwriter, and producer based out of LA. She was born and raised in France, spent a decade in China, then decided to move to LA to pursue her passion of music. As a songwriter, Ava co-wrote "I Just" for K-pop group Red Velvet's second album that debuted at #1 on the Billboard World charts and #1 on the Korean Pop Charts. The album has since gone on to become 9X Platinum in Korea and has accumulated over 2.3 million plays on Spotify. Her songs have also been featured on The Ellen Show, Empire, and Crazy Rich Asians. You can find her on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok; and you can email her at avakingbookings@gmail.com.

Welcome to I Just want to Celebrate - Episode 118  of The Steven Thompson Experience Thanks to each and every one of you for tuning in to the show and joining us on this journey.   Today we are talking about Burnout and combating it with celebration.   To dig into this we are going to learn about -The Sun,Herbert Freudenberger.,  Sarah Boone and the song I just want to celebrate by Rare Earth. I hope you enjoy the episode! And if you do please subscribe and spread the word to your friends and ask them to listen as well!   About the Show:   Each episode of the Steven Thompson Experience is designed to Educate, Inform and Inspire people to pursue their gifts and use them to serve others. Each episode is named after I song I like you can listen to  I Just want to Celebrate- Here Check us out on Instagram - Check us out on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/the_steven_thompson_experience   Check us out our projects on Linktree- https://linktr.ee/thesteventhompsonexperience

Thanks for being patient (as I upload at midnight). Moving has been crazy, and I JUST got my desk set up! Anyway... we had a weird run in. And we want to talk about it. TW: harassment, cyber stalking Head over to @ThisIsTwentyPod on Instagram after listening and let us know what you think about the episode! XOXO- Val + Allison --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thisistwentypod/support

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Pop Radio UK!  Album Tracks from the latest releases that have crossed my desk.  Give A Listen!  Like, Download, Comment, Share, Repeat.  Lame-stream radio...Variety...I do not think they TRULY know the meaning of the word!  That's why I do what I do here...Radio Candy Radio!  The Music Authority LIVE STREAM Show & Podcast bringing Power Pop, Rock, Soul, Rhythm & Blues to anyone and everyone who wants to expand their rock and roll radio knowledge!  Shows NOW on Listen Notes, Google Podcast Manager, Mixcloud, PlayerFM, Stitcher, Tune In, Podcast Addict, Cast Box, Radio Public, Pocket Cast, Apple iTunes Podcasts!!  Please! Follow me on Twitter JimPrell@TMusicAuthority  The Music Authority LIVE STREAM Show & Podcast!    https://fastcast4u.com/player/jamprell/    The Podcast can also be heard here - https://themusicauthority.transistor.fm/   Radio Candy Radio Mon, Wed, Fri 7 PM ET, 4PM PT.  Rocking The KOR!  www.koradio.rocks 7PM UK, 2PM ET, 11AM PT Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday!  Also, Pop Radio UK Friday, Saturday, & Sunday!  Research and reach out to the bands let them know you heard me playing their songs! Pop Radio UK Show 128!!Super 8 – TMA Show OpenEmperor of Ice Cream - 01 - Overflow [Overflow EP]Heartdrops - 30 - Lost Highway [Somebody Out There Is Having A Party Vol 2] (Rum Bar Records)Triptides - Now And Then [Alter Echoes]Gallows Birds - Emily [If it ain't Rum Bar Records it ain't worth the shot. Vol 2] (Rum Bar Records)Chris Church - 13 Sunrise [Game Dirt] (Big Stir Records)SoulBird - The Music Authority JingleOne Morning in August - 09 Fight [One Morning in August]Rich Williams - Ordinary Person [Ordinary Person]Starcaster - 03 Class Of 98 [Starcaster]Soup Review - 02_Grauniad AngelAstral Brew - 15 The Great Monolith [Pipapop Corn Vol. 3] (Pipapop Records)Nolan Voide - The Music Authority JingleNolan Voide - 04 Accustomed To My FateReality Anonymous - 02_I Love Her Everywhere [The Ghost Host Vol. 1 44-16]French Girls - 04 Soda Pop [French Girls – EP] (Rum Bar Records)Los Summers - 09 El error [Cometieron un error] (Clifford Records)Fernando Perdomo - 14 Couldn't I Just tell You [TRGTR]Pete Milo - 23 - Parameters [Chimes That Reel and Rock] (Ice Cream Man Power Pop And More)Charm Offensive - 02 (I'm Not Here To Be) Your Conscience [Charm Offensive]Kirk Adams – The Room Where May Cried [This Means Everything]

Hi it’s Adam here and this episode is not a hypnosis episode at all - I Just thought I’d jump on the mic to say a big thank you!!!! The podcast is just 10 months old and this month - Feb 2021 - we’ve just hit 40,000 downloads in a single month. So a huge thank you for the support.  My mission is to impact 1 million lives through these hypnosis downloads and by listening you are helping me climb the podcast charts all over the world which gives me access to bigger audiences.  I’m always looking for inspiration for new hypnosis sessions so as an expression of my gratitude I’d love to hear from you what kind of topics, issues, or things you’d like to hear? Drop me your ideas or suggestions at adam@adamcox.co.uk or send me a direct message through Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/adamcoxofficial/  Thank you again for being a listener of the show. Please subscribe if you haven’t already and if you are able to leave a 5-star rating and quick review that will help my show reach more people that may benefit from these hypnosis sessions.  Thanks again! :)

Rockin' The KOR!!!  Changing it up!  Album Tracks from the latest releases that have crossed my desk.  Give A Listen!  Like, Download, Comment, Share, Repeat.  Lame-stream radio...Variety...I do not think they TRULY know the meaning of the word!  That's why I do what I do here...Radio Candy Radio!  The Music Authority LIVE STREAM Show & Podcast bringing Power Pop, Rock, Soul, Rhythm & Blues to anyone and everyone who wants to expand their rock and roll radio knowledge!  Shows NOW on Listen Notes, Google Podcast Manager, Mixcloud, PlayerFM, Stitcher, Tune In, Podcast Addict, Cast Box, Radio Public, Pocket Cast, Apple iTunes Podcasts!!  Please! Follow me on Twitter JimPrell@TMusicAuthority  The Music Authority LIVE STREAM Show & Podcast!    https://fastcast4u.com/player/jamprell/    The Podcast can also be heard here - https://themusicauthority.transistor.fm/   Radio Candy Radio Mon, Wed, Fri 7 PM ET, 4PM PT.  Rocking The KOR!  www.koradio.rocks 7PM UK, 2PM ET, 11AM PT Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday!  Also, Pop Radio UK Friday, Saturday, & Sunday!  Research and reach out to the bands let them know you heard me playing their songs! Rockin' The KOR Show 142!!Super 8 – TMA Show OpenEmperor of Ice Cream - 01 - Overflow [Overflow EP]Heartdrops - 30 - Lost Highway [Somebody Out There Is Having A Party Vol 2] (Rum Bar Records)Triptides - Now And Then [Alter Echoes]Gallows Birds - Emily [If it ain't Rum Bar Records it ain't worth the shot. Vol 2] (Rum Bar Records)Chris Church - 13 Sunrise [Game Dirt] (Big Stir Records)SoulBird - The Music Authority JingleOne Morning in August - 09 Fight [One Morning in August]Rich Williams - Ordinary Person [Ordinary Person]Starcaster - 03 Class Of 98 [Starcaster]Soup Review - 02_Grauniad AngelAstral Brew - 15 The Great Monolith [Pipapop Corn Vol. 3] (Pipapop Records)Nolan Voide - The Music Authority JingleNolan Voide - 04 Accustomed To My FateReality Anonymous- 02_I Love Her Everywhere [The Ghost Host Vol. 1 44-16]French Girls - 04 Soda Pop [French Girls – EP] (Rum Bar Records)Los Summers - 09 El error [Cometieron un error] (Clifford Records)Fernando Perdomo - 14 Couldn't I Just tell You [TRGTR]Pete Milo - 23 - Parameters [Chimes That Reel and Rock] (Ice Cream Man Power Pop And More)Charm Offensive - 02 (I'm Not Here To Be) Your Conscience [Charm Offensive]Kirk Adams – The Room Where May Cried [This Means Everything]

I don’t know about you but sometimes I have moments where I feel really freaking CONFUSED or if I’m feeling really off I’ll even label that feeling “LOST” when thinking about what I’m doing whether it’s something in my personal life or business…. & in today’s episode I want to share a real time experience I JUST navigated through that helped me go from feeling STUCK to feeling PUMPED and how what I learned might help you too!  Can’t wait to hear what you think!  & as mentioned in this episode:  If you have a podcast idea on your heart, “SheGoes Podcasting” course is OFFICIALLY OPEN for registration & designed to take you from IDEA to launching their podcasts in 4 weeks in a super supportive tight knit group group!  But come quickly because we only take 20 WOMEN a month so I can personally pour into you & connect you with the women in this community:  All of the details are here at www.kaciafitzgerald.com/podcastingcourse  For more details on how to snag your spot in our NEXT round (kicking off March 7th) that we JUST opened registration for--- DM Kac on Instagram @kacia.fitzgerald or text me at +1 (512) 548-2728  & ooh one last thing---> Did you know I have a TOTALLY free TEXT list you can join to get PUMP UP texts from me and all the JUICY news and fun perks?!   Text “HI” or anything you want to +1 512-548-2728 to subscribe! www.kaciafitzgerald.com/texts  Come hang  with me on Instagram:  @kacia.fitzgerald and @shegoes.company  Topic or speaker suggestions?  Shoot us an email: hello@kaciafitzgerald.com  FOR ALL THE  other JUICE?  To join my email list: Click here to Subscribe now & all the funsies at kaciafitzgerald.com  Follow our EMPOWERHER PUMP-UP JAMS playlist on Spotify!

Welcome back! This is day 3 of our 54-day Rosary Novena. I Just want to take the time to thank everyone who has subscribed to our email list and to the podcast. You'll get an email or notification each morning as soon as the prayer is published.Please rate or review the Podcast: If you would like to support our Ministry and help the podcast grow; - Please share this podcast with your friends and family. - Another way to you can help the podcast grow, is by rating and reviewing the show on Itunes. Also, If you would like us to pray for you or would like to share your Rosary Story, please visit our website at 54daysofroses.com to submit your prayer request.Day 3: Glorious Mysteries in PetitionWith that let's get started, Today we're praying the Glorious Mysteries in Petition. Our Lady of the Most Holy Rosary, We ask that you intercede for us as we pray in preparation for this coming Lenten season. Blessed Mother, We pray that we may rediscover Jesus in this season of Lent. We pray for healing around the world as we struggle with this pandemic. We pray for the safety of our country. Blessed Mother, we pray for the intentions of our listeners. And we pray for the intentions of Ashley, Sherri, Mark, David, Eileen, Kara, Bernadette, Paulina, Mary Jones, Jaqueline. With Love,Maritza Mendez Make a Donationhttps://www.54daysofroses.com/donateSupport our Ministry:https://www.patreon.com/54daysofrosesWebsite:https://www.54daysofroses.com/Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/54daysofroses/Audio Engineerhttps://conceptualpodcasting.com/podcastsThe song "Meditation 2" created by Patrick Buddewww.patrickbudde.com

Hermeto Pascoal is one of those artists who, every time you play his singular music, you see the lights go on for a new batch of listeners.  Meanwhile, his established fans say, "Why don't you ever play this guy?!" and I say, "What do you mean?  I JUST played him!"  They're relentless!On the last episode of Deep Focus, in a rebroadcast from 2013, we listened to multi-instrumentalist Hermeto Pascoal with guidance from his fellow musical inventor, our guest, Leon Gruenbaum.  This Monday we play the following show in which we go over the top with more Hermeto! More Leon!  And now with the additional wisdom of bassist Henry Schroy who has made an extensive study of Hermeto's music.  Do you think THAT will be enough for those Hermeto fans?  I seriouly doubt it very much but it's certainly worth trying.#WKCR #DeepFocus #MitchGoldman #LeonGruenbaum #HenrySchroy #HermetoPascoal #BrazilianMusic #JazzRadio #JazzInterview #JazzPodcastPhoto credit: no copyright information available.

Hermeto Pascoal is one of those artists who, every time you play his singular music, you see the lights go on for a new batch of listeners.  Meanwhile, his established fans say, "Why don't you ever play this guy?!" and I say, "What do you mean?  I JUST played him!"  They're relentless!On the last episode of Deep Focus, in a rebroadcast from 2013, we listened to multi-instrumentalist Hermeto Pascoal with guidance from his fellow musical inventor, our guest, Leon Gruenbaum.  This Monday we play the following show in which we go over the top with more Hermeto! More Leon!  And now with the additional wisdom of bassist Henry Schroy who has made an extensive study of Hermeto's music.  Do you think THAT will be enough for those Hermeto fans?  I seriouly doubt it very much but it's certainly worth trying.#WKCR #DeepFocus #MitchGoldman #LeonGruenbaum #HenrySchroy #HermetoPascoal #BrazilianMusic #JazzRadio #JazzInterview #JazzPodcastPhoto credit: no copyright information available.

Hermeto Pascoal is one of those artists who, every time you play his singular music, you see the lights go on for a new batch of listeners.  Meanwhile, his established fans say, "Why don't you ever play this guy?!" and I say, "What do you mean?  I JUST played him!"  They're relentless!On the last episode of Deep Focus, in a rebroadcast from 2013, we listened to multi-instrumentalist Hermeto Pascoal with guidance from his fellow musical inventor, our guest, Leon Gruenbaum.  This Monday we play the following show in which we go over the top with more Hermeto! More Leon!  And now with the additional wisdom of bassist Henry Schroy who has made an extensive study of Hermeto's music.  Do you think THAT will be enough for those Hermeto fans?  I seriouly doubt it very much but it's certainly worth trying.#WKCR #DeepFocus #MitchGoldman #LeonGruenbaum #HenrySchroy #HermetoPascoal #BrazilianMusic #JazzRadio #JazzInterview #JazzPodcastPhoto credit: no copyright information available.  

Hermeto Pascoal is one of those artists who, every time you play his singular music, you see the lights go on for a new batch of listeners.  Meanwhile, his established fans say, "Why don't you ever play this guy?!" and I say, "What do you mean?  I JUST played him!"  They're relentless!On the last episode of Deep Focus, in a rebroadcast from 2013, we listened to multi-instrumentalist Hermeto Pascoal with guidance from his fellow musical inventor, our guest, Leon Gruenbaum.  This Monday we play the following show in which we go over the top with more Hermeto! More Leon!  And now with the additional wisdom of bassist Henry Schroy who has made an extensive study of Hermeto's music.  Do you think THAT will be enough for those Hermeto fans?  I seriouly doubt it very much but it's certainly worth trying.#WKCR #DeepFocus #MitchGoldman #LeonGruenbaum #HenrySchroy #HermetoPascoal #BrazilianMusic #JazzRadio #JazzInterview #JazzPodcastPhoto credit: no copyright information available.  

“I hate the 2nd appointment because I feel bad asking people to buy again after I JUST asked them to buy…” Recently a client shared this with me. Can you relate?  I love that she had the courage to articulate this because I think this is a very common feeling with network marketers.   Most mindset […] The post How To Overcome Customer Reorder Mindset Blocks #422 appeared first on Emerge Sales Training.

Hermeto Pascoal is one of those artists who, every time you play his singular music, you see the lights go on for a new batch of listeners.  Meanwhile, his established fans say, "Why don't you ever play this guy?!" and I say, "What do you mean?  I JUST played him!"  They're relentless!On the last episode of Deep Focus, in a rebroadcast from 2013, we listened to multi-instrumentalist Hermeto Pascoal with guidance from his fellow musical inventor, our guest, Leon Gruenbaum.  This Monday we play the following show in which we go over the top with more Hermeto! More Leon!  And now with the additional wisdom of bassist Henry Schroy who has made an extensive study of Hermeto's music.  Do you think THAT will be enough for those Hermeto fans?  I seriouly doubt it very much but it's certainly worth trying.#WKCR #DeepFocus #MitchGoldman #LeonGruenbaum #HenrySchroy #HermetoPascoal #BrazilianMusic #JazzRadio #JazzInterview #JazzPodcastPhoto credit: no copyright information available.  

Hermeto Pascoal is one of those artists who, every time you play his singular music, you see the lights go on for a new batch of listeners.  Meanwhile, his established fans say, "Why don't you ever play this guy?!" and I say, "What do you mean?  I JUST played him!"  They're relentless!On the last episode of Deep Focus, in a rebroadcast from 2013, we listened to multi-instrumentalist Hermeto Pascoal with guidance from his fellow musical inventor, our guest, Leon Gruenbaum.  This Monday we play the following show in which we go over the top with more Hermeto! More Leon!  And now with the additional wisdom of bassist Henry Schroy who has made an extensive study of Hermeto's music.  Do you think THAT will be enough for those Hermeto fans?  I seriouly doubt it very much but it's certainly worth trying.#WKCR #DeepFocus #MitchGoldman #LeonGruenbaum #HenrySchroy #HermetoPascoal #BrazilianMusic #JazzRadio #JazzInterview #JazzPodcastPhoto credit: no copyright information available.  

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In this week’s Episode 16 of the Confessions of a Working Mom Podcast, I am talking to Maria Smith of the Confessions of a Corporate Mom Blog. Maria is a corporate working mom, who has found herself moving across the country several times in the course of her and her husband’s careers, while juggling family life in between. She knows a thing or two about balancing career ambitions with raising a family. She also just recently started a business venture along with her daughter! Their first product is a #workingmama coffee mug, and they have plans to expand in 2021. The company supports the “Dress for Success” organization, and is donating 20% of proceeds from the coffee mug to this organization, whose mission is to empower women to achieve economic independence by providing a network of support, professional attire and the development tools to help women thrive in work and in life. In this episode, Maria and I talk all things related to motherhood and how we can find solidarity and hope in the fact that we are all similar as working moms, and are all in this journey together. Some of the topics we touch on are: Mom Guilt, Perfectionism and Motherhood, the Struggle of “Trying to Balance it All,” Burnout, and How Moms Can Find Their Confidence While Working From Home. We talk full circle about working motherhood, and the ways we can become more thoughtful and intentional about setting our goals as working moms. These are all great things to think about with the new year quickly approaching! You are not going to want to miss this episode with Maria Smith. Maria’s thoughtfulness and passion for working moms shows through in all of the wonderful work she is doing! Tune in to this inspiring and amazing conversation while sipping your favorite coffee, because you are going to want to listen carefully and take notes!! Follow Maria on Instagram to stay up-to-date on all of her company news, product release dates, and more! @confessions_of_a_corporate_mom Check out Maria's Guest Blog Post on The Working Mom Collective: Working Mama Mug – Maria’s very first product is available to purchase! Along with her daughter they created a #workingmama coffee/tea mug! I received mine the other day and I Just love it. It reminds me of my goals and ambitions each day when I sip my coffee in it and work on my blog, podcast and business. https://www.instagram.com/p/CIHV9BWly4e/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet If you are interested in supporting a small business, and an awesome charity, Dress for Success, then send Maria Smith a DM on Instagram @confessions_of_a_corporate_mom, or you can Venmo her @Maria-Smith-74 (all her settings are private!) and put your address in the comments box so she can ship you your fabulous #workingmama mug! In doing so, you’re also giving to a charity that does so much to “empower women to achieve economic independence by providing a network of support, professional attire and the development tools to help them thrive in work and in life” as 20% of the sale of each mug will go to Dress for Success. The mugs are $20 + $3.50 for shipping. Follow the Blog at Confessions of a Corporate Mom.   Follow along with Maria on her journey: @confessions_of_a_corporate_mom on Instagram and on Facebook: Confessions of a Corporate Mom

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Jeanne Martin was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at age ten, in the 1950s. Technology was very different back then, of course, but so was the medical community's reaction. Jeanne was told she would never have children and if she did, she wouldn't live to see her children grow up. Today, Jeanne not only has a daughter, she's also a grandmother. She shares what she’s learned along the way. We also talk to Jeanne's daughter Jessica, who talks about growing up with a parent who has type 1. In Innovations, find out why when it comes to keeping track of long and short acting insulin, a CDE says invest in rubber bands. This podcast is not intended as medical advice. If you have those kinds of questions, please contact your health care provider. ---- Other episodes with amazing people living long and happy lives with T1D: Richard Vaughn was diagnosed in 1945 Judith Ball was diagnosed in 1941 ---- Check out Stacey's new book: The World's Worst Diabetes Mom! Join the Diabetes Connections Facebook Group! Sign up for our newsletter here ----- Use this link to get one free download and one free month of Audible, available to Diabetes Connections listeners! ----- Get the App and listen to Diabetes Connections wherever you go! Click here for iPhone      Click here for Android Episode Transcription Stacey Simms  0:00 Diabetes Connections is brought to you by One Drop created for people with diabetes by people who have diabetes. By Real Good Foods real food you feel good about eating and by Dexcom take control of your diabetes and live life to the fullest with Dexcom.   Announcer  0:24 This is Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms.   Stacey Simms  0:30 This week, Jeanne Martin was diagnosed with type one at age 10. Back in 1955. She's had to fight a lot of doctors along the way, including one who told her she would not live to see her child grow up.   Jeanne Martin  0:45 And my reaction was I told my husband that guy can go walk up the street and get hit by a bus tomorrow. I'm not going to go along with that. That's was my reaction. I got mad. I didn't buy into it. I didn't get depressed because I Just thought he was full of baloney.   Stacey Simms  1:00 Jeanne was right. She's now a grandmother. And she shares what she's learned along the way that made her question and stand up to doctors like that. We're also joined by her daughter, Jessica, who shares with like growing up with a parent who has type one in innovations this week why a diabetes educator says invest in rubber bands. This podcast is not intended as medical advice. If you have those kinds of questions, please contact your health care provider. Welcome to another week of Diabetes Connections. I am so glad to have you here I am your host, Stacey Simms, and we aim to educate and inspire about type one diabetes by sharing stories of connection. My son was diagnosed with type one right before he turned two that was back in 2006. My husband lives with type two diabetes. I don't have diabetes. I have a background in broadcasting and that is how you get this show. I spent 20 plus years and local television and radio news. I've been doing this show for more than five years now and I don't remember Ever putting the topic of the show to a vote, but I did that for this week, I put up a poll in our Facebook group, it's Diabetes Connections, the group, I have a couple of interviews. I'm usually a few weeks ahead with interviews in the can. And I asked the group to vote on which interview they wanted to hear next, and everybody chose Jeanne, I cannot say blame you. I am always amazed at the strength of these people, the stories of people who are living well with diabetes for 50 60 70 years. I mean, you think about it, before blood glucose meters were a thing. I mean, they weren't available to the 1980s. And this was a time that we're talking about with Jeanne before some doctors would even know about different types of diabetes. I was shocked to learn that that for a very long time, it was just diabetes and you treated it with a one shot a day, or then they would say juvenile diabetes. And you couldn't possibly have that if you were an adult and you're just on and on. And if you're new to the show, I've done several interviews with people who were diagnosed in the 50s in the 40s. And they've lived with type one for 70 years. And I will link those up with this episode. You can also search with a very good search engine at Diabetes connections.com. We're up to more than 320 episodes. So if you want to Google keywords like living long or 60 years with diabetes, that sort of thing. You can find that on the website. Before I get to the interview. I want to read something that was sent to me it's actually a review on Apple podcasts. I'm really bad at asking for reviews and keeping up with reviews. If you want to leave one up man, I would love it. Whatever podcast app you listen on, there is a way to leave a rating or review. This one came in from Shelley. Now her name is not on this but I know who this is because we featured her. We featured her son in a recent show. So Shelley wrote I love this podcast so much. I learned so much from listening especially enjoyed the tech episodes with Dexcom and Tandem etc. As the mom of a newly diagnosed four year old. I have found much needed encouragement and tips for helping and thrive with diabetes. Also, cannon was excited to hear you mention him swimming in the lake. Surely thank you for writing that. Yeah, we talked about cannon she had sent a picture into the Facebook group about him burning off the glucose. She said swimming in the lake pan swimming is one of those ways where Benny used to just those little kids just swim with every part of their body. They used to go low all the time in the pool. It's a little bit different. Now you know, a 15 year old does not swim like a four year old. But surely thanks for sending that review in. It's always nice to get reviews like that. And if you like the show, truly the best thing to do is to tell somebody about it tell somebody in the diabetes community. That's the best way to get the word out. All right, Jeanne and her story in just a moment but first diabetes Connections is brought to you by One Drop, getting diabetes supplies is a pain. Not only the ordering and the picking up but also the arguing with insurance over what they say you need and what you really need. Make it easy with One Drop. They offer personalized tester plans plus you get a Bluetooth a glucose meter test strips lancets and your certified diabetes coach, subscribe today to get the test strips for less than $20 a month delivered right to your door. No prescriptions or co pays required. One less thing to worry about. not that surprising when you learn that the founder of One Drop lives with type one, they get it One Drop gorgeous gear supplies delivered to your door 24 seven access to your certified diabetes coach, learn more, go to Diabetes connections.com and click on the One Drop logo.   I feel like I've known Jeanne Martin for as long as my son's had diabetes. That's almost 14 years. And that's because while I have never met Jeanne in person, I have been friends with her daughter Jessica Graham for even longer than those 14 years. We met when Jessica was in public relations here in Charlotte, and I was working as a health reporter for a local TV station. And later we were on the board of our local JDRF chapter together. I cannot believe it has taken me this long to share Jeannes story. She is just incredible. I was able to talk to Jeanne and Jessica, about living well with type one for 66 years. Jeanne and Jessica, thank you so much for joining me. I've known Jessica for so long, but I don't know so much of this story. I'm so excited to talk to you both. Thanks for coming on.   Jeanne & Jessica  6:17 Thank you for having us. You're very welcome.   Stacey Simms  6:20 Jeanne, I got to start with you. Because you have lived with type 1 diabetes now for more than 65 years. Let me just start out by saying How are you? How are you doing?   Jeanne Martin  6:30 I'm doing great. I think I'm doing just fine.   Stacey Simms  6:35 What do you mind if I ask what technology you use how you manage anything you'd like to share?   Jeanne Martin  6:40 Well, I checked my blood sugar with little contrast test strips. And I shoot nice. Well, I take shots   Stacey Simms  6:49 you can say brands, we’re all friends here.   Jeanne Martin  6:51 Yeah, I say I shoot myself   four times a day. I see my doctor every six months. Well, that's about it.   Jessica Graham  7:01 She does not use a pump or   Stacey Simms  7:04 any of that. No, if you don't mind, let's go back. Do you remember what it was like when you were diagnosed? You were 10 years old. Do you remember anything about that time?   Jeanne Martin  7:13 Oh, yes, I do very much. We lived in a very small town, not far from the Mayo Clinic. We just lived there a couple years. My friend's mother mentioned to my mother that I was drinking a lot of water and going in the bathroom a lot and she thought maybe my mother should have me checked out. So we did in the small town with the with the doctor there said, Well, she's either got diabetes or TB. Well, I didn't know what diabetes was. And I knew what TB was. So I thought, Oh, please don't i don't want TB. I'll have the other and so so the little basically country doctor didn't know what to do. So anyway, so they sent me to St. Mary's, which is public Have the Mayo Clinic. And they tested me and for sure that's what I had. So I had to stay there. I think it was five years. I didn't do all this stuff with the diets. And they wouldn't let me leave until I could get myself a shot. But I was active. And I don't really remember too much about it. The doctor were very nice, and everybody was very helpful. And back then you had glass syringes and needles and you couldn't check your blood sugar. You had to pee on the stick, and they sent me home and my mother had to weigh everything, and I had to watch what I ate. But other than that, that's about it. Then I just basically went on with my life. Did you   Stacey Simms  8:46 really? Were you able to jump back in go to school, do all the things you wanted to do with that time?   Jeanne Martin  8:51 Yeah, I did.   Stacey Simms  8:52 Mm hmm. It seems like such a different time, right. I'm just trying to think,   Jeanne Martin  8:55 Oh, yeah, it was a very different time and when I first got married, Remember, I had to boil my syringe once a week, we had to do that. And I was still peeing on a stick. And I only had one shot a day back then all through, you know, school. And of course, I didn't want to tell my friends when I was in high school. That's what I had. But of course, my mother told my best friend's mother. So everybody knew it, but I didn't know they knew it. Oh, wow.   Stacey Simms  9:25 Anyway, moms are sneaky that way. But yeah. The you know, the regimen was so different. You had one shot a day, right? And then you had to kind of eat around that shot. Did you have problems as a teenager? Did you do remember, you know, any issues or were you able to buy I would assume by routine and by figuring out what to eat, you know, how did it work out for you?   Jeanne Martin  9:47 Well, I didn't run into any problems when I was a teenager. And I do remember I don't know how I would go not very often, my friends and I and I would have hot fudge sundaes. Believe it But other than being bad like that, I lived at home and my mother, kind of watch what I ate. And I didn't need a lot of sweets. You know, it was my mother's management, not mine. And I came home for lunch all during school. And I didn't start taking more shots until about, oh, I don't know, maybe 45 40 years ago.   Stacey Simms  10:23 Yeah. It's so different to think about because we're talking about I mean, if doing my math correctly, you were diagnosed right? In the early 50s 1950s.   Jeanne Martin  10:30 Right? And 1955   Stacey Simms  10:33 Yes, so the routine was completely different. I mean, as you're listening, you got to understand not only one shot a day, but no blood sugar home meters, right. You're still checking. How often did you check done by check? We mean, pee on the stick.   Jeanne Martin  10:50 I probably did it maybe once a day. I honestly don't remember that. Not a lot. It's very different now. And somehow, I think my pancreas has always worked a little bit because I don't take much insulin. And I'm very, I don't want to say touchy with it, but I don't have to take a lot. And when I was diagnosed at the Mayo Clinic, they said that yes, my pancreas was working a little bit. That's what they thought. And I still think that's the case because I just don't need much insulin. And and I watch what I eat. I do, but you know, I'm not 100% I mean, I do have cookies,   Stacey Simms  11:30 but you're told us you were eating hot fudge sundae. So the cat is out of the bag…   Jeanne Martin  11:35 That was in my youth. You know, I do take care of myself. Now. I check myself four times a day, shoot up four times a day and I watch myself better now because I know better. I'm more wiser.   Stacey Simms  11:48 I'm curious to growing up. Did you know anybody with Type One Diabetes and if not, when did you meet somebody with no,   Jeanne Martin  11:55 I never knew anybody. I didn't know anybody with any kind of diabetes. It wasn't in my family, so none of my relatives had it. No, during high school I did not know, as an adult. I have met very few type one diabetics, I know they're out there, but very few. And it's kind of fun when I do just to kind of say, Well, you know, compare notes, so to speak. Sure.   Stacey Simms  12:21 Just let me ask you a couple of questions. Because the perspective of a kid, you know, we're all adults now. But a child growing up with type one in the house and the type one is in the parent is not something that I've talked a lot about on the podcast. What's your earliest memory of your mom and diabetes?   Jessica Graham  12:38 Well, I don't ever remember it not being there. And that was more because I worried about her than it was her. There was never literally and I'm, I mean, this literally, there was never a day when my mom said, Oh, I don't feel well or Oh me, you know. My sugar is off, or I just don't feel good today, never. And so it was nothing that she did. I just knew that if mom started acting funny, I needed to get the orange juice. So I remember that I never had a problem with shots. And I think that's because I always saw you give yourself a shot. So it was just, it was always there. The other thing that I remember is that I was always told that it skipped generations. And so I do remember I don't even know if you remember this. But I remember at one point when I was little, I told mom that I didn't want to have kids until there was a cure, because I didn't want my kid to have type one. And I she got really mad. My mom never got mad. But she got upset at that and told me that was absolutely you know, the wrong attitude to have and that she had a great life and it didn't have any impact. And so that was the end of that but it was just always there. So just always a part of life. Jeanne, I'd love to hear your perspective. On when Jessica who now has a I want to say a tween a teenage Yeah, yeah. just turned 13 Yeah. Wow.   Stacey Simms  14:07 I want to hear your reaction Jeanne to when she said that! Right back to Jeanne answering that question but first Diabetes Connections is brought to you by Real Good Foods. True story from my house. Benny came downstairs the other night, open the freezer door, looked in it close the door and said who ate the mint chocolate chip ice cream. And I had to say it was the I finished it off. Sorry, Benny. But they're Real Good Foods. Ice cream is really good. We had a vanilla chocolate and mint chip this last time I promised him I would buy more and I have to get the peanut butter kind as well. We haven't found the ice cream yet in our grocery store freezer so I get that online but our grocery store carries a lot of the meals and they are so good and super easy and basically just heat them up. If you have an air fryer. It's even better They have everything from pizza to breakfast sandwiches to bowls, these new bowl meals that are really nice entrees. Find out more, check out that mint chocolate chip ice cream for yourself. It stays frozen. They they package it up the right way. I was worried about that, but no need to worry should have known. Just go to Diabetes connections.com and click on the Real Good Foods logo. Now back to Jeanne answering my question about her reaction. When Jessica told her she was really concerned about having children.   Jeanne Martin  15:33 Well, I didn't want her to dwell on it. And I didn't want her not to have kids. You know, it's so much more advanced nowadays. And there's so much more that they can do. And I always do hope for here. I mean, I've been hanging on that for a long time, but you never know, one of these days. No matter what your problem is. You just have to get along and do the best you can and get along with your life and not dwell on it. And I've never dwelled on it.   Stacey Simms  16:02 Well, I'm curious too, because now we know and I've heard that too. it skips generations. We know it absolutely does not. But I'm curious Jeanne, you know, when you decided that you wanted to have children? Did anybody try to talk you out of it? This was a very different time for diabetes.   Jeanne Martin  16:14 Well, I was told that I would have a hard time having a child. And so we put up for adoption. And we were waiting to hear and I went to the doctor and thought I had a tumor but the tumor was Jessica. So I thought, okay, so we said, you know, we were going to have a baby so we don't need to adopt and they said, Well, why don't you wait to see if everything is okay. And I said, okay, because the doctors told me that Jessica only had a 40% chance of being born alive. So we waited and she was screaming and kickin, so she was Fine. So we stopped the adoption because we didn't need two babies at one time. And I didn't see her for I think it was like two or three days. She was in an incubator because her blood sugar was low when she was born, but then after that, she was fine. And I was fine. And that's it.   Stacey Simms  17:19 I'm sorry. I'm still on the tumor.   Jessica Graham  17:24 Well, and I'll add to that, because, you know, she won't tell you this part, but because she was diabetic, she couldn't have any medicine or or painkillers. When I was born, and you were in labor, what, 24 hours? No, no,   Jeanne Martin  17:39 it was, I don't remember 13 hours. So it was a   Jessica Graham  17:42 ridiculously long and I was stuck behind a piece of cartilage. And so I wasn't coming out. So she went through hell delivering me. But it all worked out. Yeah.   Stacey Simms  17:54 Oh, worked out. things really have changed. I mean,   Jeanne Martin  17:58 Oh, yes. And I also was I would not live to see my child grow up. Now I've got a 13 year old grandson.   Stacey Simms  18:07 But let's talk about that, because I've heard that from so many people diagnosed not only in the 50s, but even as late as like the 70s and 80s. This Doomsday of you're not going to live past 30. And I know that for many people, that unfortunately was the case, there was not the care. There was not, you know, whatever they needed, but it seemed as though in some ways, the doctors, I don't know, I don't want to editorialize here, but they seem to have this Doomsday approach. And when you were told that Jeanne, what was your reaction? I mean, I think a lot of people would have said, well, what's the point? Oh,   Jeanne Martin  18:37 I'm kind of stubborn.   And my reaction was, I told my husband, that guy can go walk out in the street and get hit by a bus tomorrow, and I just, I'm not going to go along with that. That's was my reaction. I got mad and he did die. A younger The age that I am now is a matter of fact, the guy that told me that I didn't buy into it. I didn't get depressed because I just thought it was full of baloney. I love it.   Stacey Simms  19:10 All right, this is getting interesting now. I do love it. Jessica. I know your mom is sitting right there. But you're doing great Jeanne, obviously with with your shots and with your checking, but the technology has advanced. I'm going to assume, Jessica, that you guys have had a lot of discussions about this. And your mom has said no. And you're respecting that don't put words in your mouth. But I'm curious how have those conversations happened?   Jessica Graham  19:36 Oh, yes. And I don't mind saying it with her sitting right here. So I don't mind that she doesn't do the pump because I understand. I mean, she's had incredible control for 60 some years and so i don't i don't blame her that but I want her to have a blood sugar monitor because she tends to go away Low, and she goes low at night. And it's been a problem as I call it a problem. Whenever she goes low it to me it's a problem. And so while she keeps great control, and I mean, it's her life, right, and it's her decision to make, I wish that she would get some of that electronic help with the monitoring of it. So yeah, we have that conversation a lot. But I lose.   Stacey Simms  20:26 That's a difficult situation. You know, we, as parents of children with type one have these conversations, especially once there were certain age, and I'm going to say, as young as four or five years old, where it really has to be up to the person to buy into it and say, Yes, I want this technology. And I would imagine and I'm just imagining having this conversation with my mother, who I think you have a lot in common with with Jeanne. And I think it would go that well. Yeah, well stubborn, but also you're doing very well.   Jessica Graham  20:52 Yeah, and Exactly. That's why I mean at the end of the day, what am I going to do right now I can only put in my two cents but that that is is the one thing that I wish you would do. And my dad to his credit. I mean, he's kind of grown up with this too, right? And so he's a great monitor strangely, he knows when it's the middle of the night and she's having a hard time. But I don't like to rely on that.   Unknown Speaker  21:17 But again, I lose   Jeanne Martin  21:19 stubborn. Well, let me cut in here. But the doctor prescribed a new kind of insulin that I've been taking. I don't know six months now and I have not had any trouble at night. Oh, good.   Stacey Simms  21:32 We don't have to use it in the show. Are you taking Tresiba?   Jeanne Martin  21:34 It's Tresiba. Yeah. And I have not had any trouble at night. Since I've been on that. Yeah, that's a good thing.   Stacey Simms  21:41 But my son uses an insulin pump. But long story short, we had him on Tresiba with the pump for a while because teenagers use the most ungodly amount of insulin that you could imagine. He's coming out of it. So we did away with the trusty bow, but boy, it's like the best long acting we've ever used. I'm curious too, and the bridge kind of skipping around chronologically. Hear but I mentioned earlier that there were not blood sugar meters for home use when you were diagnosed. Do you remember when you started using one of those maybe the 80s   Jeanne Martin  22:09 Well, I thought it was great because then I really knew what was going on. I mean it just it was very helpful because and that's why I checked myself a lot because you can't guess how much it's I mean, you can guess kind of how much insulin but you really can't without knowing what your blood sugar is to my mind. I mean, I think that's what's helped me keep control in Yeah, I don't like to stick my fingers but I mean, I'm so used to it now just comes second hand to me, so it made a big difference. What really made a big difference to is having plastic syringes that don't have to boil. Tell me   Stacey Simms  22:49 more about that. When did that switch? Not Not Not necessarily like what year but tell me more about that. What do you remember kind of the transition? Did you just one day throw all the glass ones out? What happened? Right   Jeanne Martin  23:00 Yeah, I did. I guess the doctor told me that these were available. And so I bought them and and use them. And then you know, he used it, throw it out. And it just, it made a big difference. It's just like, oh, gosh, you know, this is getting easier. Well, and you know, it was a lot easier. I mean, it sounds like a small thing, but it was a no to boil, you know, syringes once a week and needles once a week. And so this was great.   Jessica Graham  23:28 When did you I don't remember you ever boiling? Was that in the 60s or   Jeanne Martin  23:32 70s? No. Well, I must know. I don't think when you were born. Other times, I must have used the plastic ones. Yeah. Because I don't remember doing that either. When you were born.   Stacey Simms  23:43 You know, Jeanne, it's interesting. You said it seems like a little thing. I think for someone who has my perspective. My son was diagnosed in 2006. When we basically have I think we have all of the technology. At least it was on the drawing board if not available at the time. It wasn't as good as it is now. Just 1314 years later, but it was there. And so to think about transitioning from peeing on a stick to a blood sugar, meter glass syringes, to plastic syringes, these are monumental changes. I don't think it was a little thing. I can't imagine how much of a difference that made. I mean, the needles had to even feel different. They were more comfortable, I assume.   Jeanne Martin  24:20 Oh, well, it was it was like one size needle with the glass syringes, and they weren't that small. And now, you know, you can get all different kinds of sizes. Jessica, do you remember growing up?   Stacey Simms  24:32 It sounds like your mom's diabetes was not front and center, as I'm sure she would not have wanted it. But are there any things that stand out? You know, when you were a teenager? I'm trying to think his parents are just super embarrassing to begin with?   Jessica Graham  24:44 Honestly, no, because it just my mom wouldn't let it be the center. I mean, you're absolutely right about that. She she would never have wanted that. And I don't remember there being anything that happened when I was a teenager. That was odd. She She had one episode. I guess I was a teenager when you broke your ankle. She was we discovered that she couldn't drink champagne. She had a glass of champagne. I mean, literally a glass and the next morning passed out and broke her ankle because it messed up her blood sugar so badly that I don't remember anything ever. Embarrassing or weird or no, not not at all again, I I remember when I was a younger teenager, like if you started acting strangely, I needed to get you orange juice like I vaguely remember that but and that went for anybody. Like I think if anybody started acting strangely, I would have ended them. Shoes. But   Stacey Simms  25:43 Jeanne, did you have a career did you work? Did you work at home? Tell me a little bit about what you you know what you did?   Jeanne Martin  25:49 You know, I work during high school, I worked at clothing stores and I worked at a bakery. And then after school, I worked at a real The state office. And I guess that was it because it was the board of realtors, because I had to quit them when I got pregnant with Jessica. So that was it. And then when my husband started his company, I worked for him. I did the payroll and things like that.   Stacey Simms  26:19 Jessica, what led you to JDRF? I mean, we had met Previous to that, but we connected again at the Charlotte chapter.   Jessica Graham  26:25 I led community outreach for Harris Teeter, but didn't formally get involved. They were supportive of JDRF, but didn't formally get involved in a board capacity until I got to Time Warner Cable, and they were also involved with JDRF. And so I joined the board at that point, and was on the board for, I don't know, six or seven years, I think, and shared it in there. But I think I knew about JDRF through mom, like I think you just always supported them. Yeah, um, if I'm not mistaken, the world. organization was born the year I was born. Just another thing that has always been a part of my life. And I was really excited to get involved with the chapter because yeah, as you sort of already mentioned, the parents of type one diabetics are really involved. But there really aren't many children of type ones out there. There weren't at the time. It meant a lot to me to be involved and to be part of it.   Stacey Simms  27:24 I'm just curious, your mom, Jeanne, you just seem so laid back. And I've talked to several people who have lived with diabetes for this long who are I want to say relax, because obviously you're not, but who are more of the, hey, I'm taking care of it. We don't need to talk about it. You know, I'm not surrounded by people with type one. And then there are people who are younger, or we've been diagnosed more recently, who are really a big, big, big part of that community and want and need to kind of breathe that air. And I was curious, Jessica, was it surprising for you to kind of be involved in JDRF and be around people who were more like well, I am talking about every day and I am going to tell you more about it.   Jessica Graham  27:58 Yeah, I mean, it was it was definitely Different, because that's just not how it was in my house. I mean, it wasn't a big secret or anything. But Mom definitely didn't advertise it. And it certainly wasn't part of her identity. It was very, very different. And I really loved to one be involved that I really loved getting my mom in that community, like I would take her to the gala and that kind of thing. And she really is such an inspiration to a lot of people, especially those who are newly diagnosed because they can see somebody who really, I mean, has had a full, long, wonderful life with it. And so it's not this Doomsday message. And so she's really, I think, a real inspiration for that. And I think too, she's a great inspiration for how important attitude is an outlook is because she's never let it define her and she's never really Let it limit her. And I think she's really inspirational. So yes, it was very different to be around different people with it. But also it was really exciting to just to be able to share her with that community.   Stacey Simms  29:12 Jeanne, what's your reaction to have your daughter sitting next to you and saying, what an inspiration she thinks you are?   Jeanne Martin  29:17 Well, I think that's very nice. It's very complimentary. I never thought of myself that way. But I'm glad she sees me that way.   Stacey Simms  29:26 I know my listeners are going to want to know, a few more little details. Jeanne, do you exercise a lot? Have you always been active? Are you more kind of laid back about that too? You know, that's one of the things that people always ask me about.   Jeanne Martin  29:37 No, I say I'm pretty active. Well, since we've lived here almost the whole time. I would go to the why three days a week. I don't do that now because I suppose and when I was younger, I played golf, and did a little bit of tennis. I've always gardened Well, not always but for a long time I went out in the They are dug in the dirt and that type of thing. And I try to walk about a mile a day. I mean, I walk more, but I go for a mile walk, or more. I tried to do it every day, unless it rains. I do it early when it's hot, because the heat affects my blood sugar. I run into trouble easier. And I don't know if that's the same with other people. But anyway, that's what it is. Yeah, I think I'm pretty active.   Stacey Simms  30:27 Yeah, you're very active. Jessica, I'm curious, have you. You mentioned that you were worried about your son having type one and he's 13. Now, do you still think about that? It's in the back of your mind. Is it something that you've ever had checked out? Anything like that?   Jessica Graham  30:41 Um, yes. So I worry about it every day. But I don't   I try not to think about it. And I certainly have never mentioned it and   Unknown Speaker  30:49 we had   Jessica Graham  30:50 it chat once and I forget why you've charged it. Yeah, maybe. Maybe you were the one anyway. I feel like I had it checked once and I don't remember why maybe he was thirsty that day. But I do worry about it a lot. And I mean, literally every time he says I'm thirsty, because I'm just a little neurotic that way, but I don't talk about it at all. Like he would have no   Unknown Speaker  31:14 idea. I don't   Jessica Graham  31:16 think anybody would know that. But yeah, I worry about it a lot. But then again, I think, well, if he ever were to develop it, oh, my gosh, he has the world's greatest teacher to help him navigate it. So that puts my mind at ease. When he was very, very small. I found a test that he could have done. It might have even been when he was born. I mean, it was he was really, really young. And I think it was down in Florida, talking about TrialNet Yes, that must be what it was. And we just decided   Stacey Simms  31:49 not to do that. And I think I talked to you about it and talked to my mom about it. And she, I think suggested that we not do it and I decided not to so Well, Jeanne, let me then ask you about that because you would, as Jessica said, you know, he would have such a great role model and teacher, God forbid something would happen like that. So let me just ask you, what would your advice be for a newly diagnosed adult or a newly diagnosed family facing something like this now in in 20?   Jeanne Martin  32:19 Well, it depends the age of the kid. I think when you're a teenager, I think it is be harder on the kid because, you know, you don't want to be and maybe it's because I'm a girl and maybe it's back then you don't want to be different. I mean, you know, you want to blend in as a teenager, you don't really have enough self confidence to just say, Okay, I've got this and I'm gonna deal with it. I mean, I'm not saying that kids don't but I would think that's a harder age. But I guess I would just be very positive and all the things that can help. At the same time, it was would be your his responsibility to see He does try to do what he should do with diet and exercise and taking this medicine. I have a niece who came down with it when she was 10. And she never did well with it. She didn't do what she was supposed to do. And over the years, she's had all kinds of complications. And she just got very depressed with it. And you have to be positive. But you the kid himself, has to take responsibility for himself to do what he should do. And I strongly believe in that.   Stacey Simms  33:36 Thank you both so much for joining me today. It was amazing to learn about your story, Jeanne, and I'm so glad, Jessica that we were able to do this. Thank you for being on the podcast.   Jeanne Martin  33:45 Thank you for having us. Yes, thank you. It was nice meeting you via the computer.   Announcer  33:55 You're listening to Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms.   Stacey Simms  34:01 I shared some photos in the Facebook group that Jeanne and Jessica sent me, I was so happy to finally get a chance to talk to her. And you know what, after that interview, she sent me an email with some advice for Benny, which I thought was really, really nice. Now he is, as you've heard him here on the show, he maybe he's a little too confident, but he's very independent and very confident. But Jeanne has some really nice words just about you know, not letting diabetes stop you and keeping a good attitude that has served her well. And I really appreciate that she took the time to do that this community is just great. All right, innovations is up next. And we have a very low tech solution to a very scary problem. It has to do with rubber bands. All right. I'll explain that in just a moment. Diabetes Connections is brought to you by Dexcom. And we started with Dexcom back in the olden days before share. So trust me when I say using share and follow apps make a big difference. I made a lot of people who don't realize that when Dexcom launched you could not see numbers not only on your phone, but you could not share than with anybody else. But now it's such a great system. And Benny and I set parameters about when I'm going to text him or you know how long to wait all that it helps us talk and worry about diabetes less when he is at asleep over or goes on a trip. It gives me peace of mind. It also helps if I need to troubleshoot with him, because I can see what's happening over the last 24 hours and not just one moment. The alerts and alarms that we set help us from keeping the highs from getting too high and help us jump on lows before they're a big issue. Internet connectivity is required to access separate Dexcom follow app. To learn more, go to Diabetes connections.com and click on the Dexcom logo.   As you know I am the queen of diabetes mistakes I wrote a whole book about why I think mistakes are great. It's the world's worst diabetes mom real life stories of raising a child with type one. But I will say that making mistakes is also incredibly scary at times. And the one mistake that I think almost everybody with time wonder who's a caregiver for someone with type one has made is mixing up the long acting and the short acting when you're on MDI, whether it's the beginning or you've been doing this for a while, I've been enough Facebook groups where I see this happening. It's once in a blue moon for the individual. But it seems like almost every week somebody is coming in and saying, Oh, my gosh, I did this. I'm so scared. What do I do? Right? Well, one of the best tips I ever heard on is so simple. And I heard it from a CDE. And I'm so embarrassed that I don't know their name. And I'm so sorry, if this was you, email me Stacey at Diabetes connections.com. And I will give you credit, but what you do is this, whenever you have a new vial or a new pen, have long acting and do this on the long acting only take a rubber band and wrap it around the pen or the vial. Just wrap it around a couple times. You know, make sure it's not loose, it's not sliding around. And then every time you pick up your long acting, you will know that it feels different. It's got those rubber band bumps on it and If you do this often enough, really doesn't take that long, maybe two weeks, your fingers will start to associate that feel with the long acting. So if you make a mistake if you accidentally grab the wrong pen, your hand and your brain will instinctively know that something is wrong. Now, this is not proven. I haven't seen any studies on it. But this is advice that was given to me that I've heard other people use. And it really does make sense. It is incredible that after all this time was different kinds of insulin, that the pens are pretty much exactly the same. The Lantus vial, I remember might be a little skinnier, right? It looks a little bit different. But when you're moving quickly and automated, like a lot of us are, I mean, I could do that Tandem cartridge in my sleep, whereas when we first got it, I thought, oh my god, this is so complicated. I've got to lay everything out on the table. We did the Animas pump for 10 years, I could definitely feel that thing blindfolded. You just get used to your routine and how things are Feel so if you just wrap the rubber band around the long acting, you will get used to the feel of it. Let me know what you think. Does that make sense to you? Has anybody tried that? And if you've got an innovation like that This segment is for everything big and small. That makes living with type one just a little bit easier. Let me know I would love to hear from you.   Just a little personal update before I let you go, this has to do with insurance. We've had some employment situation changes around my house, which means I have already spent far too much time on the phone. I decided to start taking advice from one of our previous guests from Melissa Lee, who said when you have insurance issues, you should start with the diabetes companies and work backward. So I called Dexcom and Tandem and I said hello, I have changed insurance. What do I need to do? And they were very helpful. The bad news is my new insurance means we have to order from a third party supplier and it's Edgepark. Edgepark. If you're listening, please, please handle this. Well, we were with Edgepark years ago and I hate to disparage anybody. But let's just say let's turn this into a positive. I felt that it was such a gift for the last five and a half years to order directly from Tandem and directly from Dexcom. I am sad to see those days in my rear view mirror. So I will keep you posted on how it goes. I'm currently as I'm recording in the limbo of an Edgepark representative, we'll get back to you. We have plenty of supplies. I have a great support system if I need anything, so I'm not worried about Benny. But man, although I'm a liar, because I did say to him, you know, before you rip anything off your body, so bad before you take off that sensor or that inset, come talk to me, and make sure that it's okay to do so. Isn't that terrible? I mean, I'm laughing because we really are fine. But it just makes me crazy how expensive this stuff is, and how difficult the process is to order what you need. So I will keep you posted on that. Hopefully, it'll all go smoothly. But this is not my first rodeo. So I'm anticipating navigating a not so smooth road. I'll let you know. Thank you so much to my editor, John Bukenas from audio editing solutions. Thank you all so much as you listen, I'm Stacey Simms. I'll see you back here. Next Until then be kind to yourself.   Benny  41:07 Diabetes Connections is a production of Stacey Simms Media. All rights reserved. All Wrongs avenged

Mark Kilian is a brilliant composer ( He's scored dozens and dozens of amazing films, including "Tsotsi", one of my fave films, and most recently "Official Secrets" with Kiera Knightley which I JUST saw last week) who graciously takes us on a listening tour of his insanely expansive collection of global and ancient instruments. A feast for the ears.

Get Exclusive Pop Culture Show video interviews, video content and bonus video exclusively from our Instagram. Sign up for our Pop Cult and be the first to get show announcements, free stuff and insider information only available to cult members.Speaker 1 (00:00):Welcome to The Pop Culture Show with Barnes, Leslie and Cubby. Barnes (00:03):The Pop Culture Show is back. I'm Barnes. That's Leslie. That's Cubby. Please rate, review and subscribe and thank you for hanging with us. There's a lot going on including a couple of guests coming up. Kristian Bush from Sugarland will be on with us next week. Leslie (00:19):Our old buddy Kristian Bush. Barnes (00:21):You can listen to us on the iHeartRadio app and now we've been added to Pandora. So if Pandora is your jam. Where else can we get picked up Cubby? Cubby (00:30):Buicks. You can hear us now from Buicks now. Barnes (00:32):Yeah, they added that from Tesla. Tesla [crosstalk 00:00:35]. Cubby (00:34):Tesla, of course. I love my Tesla. I don't have one but I love my Tesla. Barnes (00:39):How was your week? Cubby (00:41):Well, we had that tropical storm, Isaias. Leslie (00:43):That's right. Barnes (00:45):Did they do that as a job to weathercasters? No one can say the name. Cubby (00:48):It took me forever to say it and I'm probably still saying it wrong. We got hit pretty hard here. It was only like a five hour travel storm, like it flew in flew out, but lost power for 24 hours, which is nothing compared to other friends of mine who are still without power. Barnes (01:03):And with a baby. Cubby (01:04):With a baby. Had a friend of mine come over and bring a generator which helped us out a little bit. You could plug in a few lamps and stuff like that and a portable air conditioning but it was a heck of a week. A tree fell, almost hit our house where the baby was sleeping. Barely missed it. So we were very fortunate but you know what, despite all that, guys- Barnes (01:26):Did your Jägermeister machine go down? Cubby (01:27):It went down for a whole day but despite all that, I think I locked in a guest for today's show. Leslie (01:33):What? Cubby (01:34):I made some calls. I was on the internet, shot a few emails, and even a day without power didn't stop me from, I'm fairly certain booking somebody here today. Barnes (01:47):Who? Tell us. Cubby (01:49):I'd be crazy to tell you now. Barnes (01:52):You're playing games now with us. We have to listen to find out who it is. Cubby (01:54):I can assure you- Barnes (01:56):I can't leave early. Cubby (01:58):I can assure you this person is going to chime in and plug into our podcast in the next few minutes. Barnes (02:05):We're going to know who it is? Cubby (02:06):You should. Grammy winner, I know that. Leslie (02:08):What a tease. Barnes (02:10):Did we play them on alternative radio? Cubby (02:12):Oh, absolutely. You guys probably know this person you probably interviewed and hung out with this person as much as I have. Barnes (02:19):Actor also, or just a singer? Cubby (02:22):No, maybe done some acting but- Barnes (02:25):I don't like to be teased like this. Cubby (02:26):Was part of a movie in a weird roundabout way. So there's a little tease for you. Leslie (02:31):He or she? Cubby (02:32):She. Leslie (02:33):Oh, it's a she? Barnes (02:35):What if we were to end the show right now? It would just be over. Thanks for listening to The Pop Culture Show. So where's your guest Cubby- Cubby (02:42):Not until she chimes. I'm not feeling confident until we hear that, and she plugs into the podcast here. Barnes (02:49):What? We're just going to sit and wait and something's going to happen? Is it like on Zoom when people just pop in. Leslie (02:54):I think that's what's going to happen. Cubby (02:57):Yeah, it's like that, like a surprise drop in. Barnes (02:58):That was a crazy week. I would not take yours for anything. Mine was pretty low key I did guest host a podcast. Our friend Damona Hoffman, who has a very successful dating podcast. She was on our second, I think episode ever when we started this thing back in April. Leslie (03:13):Wait a minute. Why were you on a dating podcast? Barnes (03:14):I guest hosted. She does this segment called Headlines and she wanted some pop culture input, and so who did she come to? The Pop Culture Show. Cubby (03:21):Did you plug our show? Barnes (03:23):Cubby, how long have you known me? Cubby (03:25):30 years. Leslie (03:25):He's the plug meister. Barnes (03:27):Did I plug our show? Cubby (03:28):I'm Ygritte meister, you're plug meister. Barnes (03:31):So yeah, that episode drops today, same day as ours. It's called Dates and Mates. It's a very successful show. I've probably ruined it, but it's out today. My part of it is somewhere in there. She does headlines in the segment or as a segment. Leslie (03:47):Does she help people get dates and mates? Barnes (03:49):She's very good. She's in the LA Times. She writes for like, what's the Washington big newspaper, I think- Leslie (03:55):Washington Post? Barnes (03:57):That may be it. Yep. She does all of these newspapers and she hosted a dating show on, I want to say Lifetime or one of those networks. She's always in the mix. She's very cool. Damona Hoffman and that show is called Dates and Mates. So listen. Fram, how was your week? Leslie (04:12):Damn, my week pales in comparison. Cubby is without power, sitting in the dark. You're over there on podcasts. I'm just over here growing watermelons. Cubby (04:21):That actually is really cool. I saw that on your Instagram and that looks really neat. Barnes (04:26):You posted a lot about this watermelon and the one thing I can think of, it takes how many days to grow watermelon? Leslie (04:34):I don't know. All I can tell you is that I go out there and water it. My husband does most of the work- Barnes (04:39):You do know. He just told you. I heard him tell 60 days. I was teeing you up, and what was my comment when you said that? Leslie (04:46):I didn't hear your comment. Barnes (04:47):I said I would just go to Publix. Because that's too much attachment to a watermelon, for 60 days and then you just eat it like that and it's gone. Cubby (04:56):Do you water them? Leslie (04:57):You do think it was cool how it went from a tiny little seed to- Barnes (05:00):Of course, but then you eat it and then it's gone. Leslie (05:02):I know but you grow yourself in your own garden. It's magical. Cubby (05:05):Do you water it with your [quify 00:05:06]? Barnes (05:06):QuiFit. Cubby (05:08):Oh, QuiFit. I'm sorry. Barnes (05:09):There's still people talking about that. Leslie (05:12):I need money from that company because I think I sold about 30 of those things. Barnes (05:15):It's French, right? They're saying we. Leslie (05:17):It's we fit. Barnes (05:19):Right, but only you would take the little tilde accent thing and make it a Q for QuiFit. Cubby (05:26):I just want to take two seconds to shout out to people. Yes, only two but hopefully more. A girl named Jody who is our account executive at iHeartRadio, listens every week and so does Wendy Wilde. She's our midday DJ at KTU, the station I used to be at. She listens all the time. I just want to shout out to you people real quick because they comment every week on our show and we really appreciate it. Leslie (05:49):That's really nice. Cubby (05:50):Spread the word guys and Jodi, Wendy we love you and let's get some more people tuning into The Pop Culture Show. Barnes (05:56):Before we get to celebrity sleaze, I thought it would be fun to do around of tell me a story where you have to tell something about one of the other co hosts. So you have something that is stuck in your mind about one of the other two. That just when you say someone's name, a story is kind of implanted in your head, friends of yours. For some reason your mind goes back to that story. I have two quick ones and I actually have one about both of you. Cubby, I always think of the time you won, what was it? $40,000 in a slot machine? Cubby (06:32):Yes, it was $38,500 on a slot machine. Barnes (06:36):How much did you put in? Cubby (06:37):100 bucks. Barnes (06:38):Three times or just 100? Cubby (06:40):No, I went to, I take that back. It was about $300 into a $100 machine because I've had some success on $100 slot machines. Your money will go like that if you're not winning, but you can also score big. One cherry on $100 machine could be like $3,000. Barnes (07:01):Dude gets off of work, goes right to Atlantic City, calls me from the car, is like, dude, I just won $38,000. I'm like, what? Cubby (07:08):Leslie, I was feeling it. It was really weird. I was at work. I'm about two hours from Atlantic City, you probably remember from working up here is not far at all and it kind of hit me. I'm like, you know what, I'm going to go down to Atlantic City. It's Tuesday afternoon, nobody will be there. I jumped in the car, went down there and I had $500, I had five $100 bills, and I said, I'm just going to put them all in the $100 machine and whatever happens, happens, and $300 in the thing went cherry, cherry and then like, jackpot. I knew it was big, but I wasn't sure. Barnes (07:41):At that point, when you win that much money, what happens? Do people emerge from a secret room and come get you? Cubby (07:46):It was ringing and then I thought I want $3,800 at first because I was like, what's happening here and then this old lady walks by and she goes, oh, honey, you did good. Then another person came up to me and then a little bit circle started. I said, I think it's like 3,800 and they go, no, it's 38,000. Leslie (08:06):$38,000. Are you the type of person that will walk away at that point? Because a lot of people, as you know, go the other way, and they lose it all. Cubby (08:14):I walk away when I'm up 400. I was not expecting this and then they're like, we can convert this to a check if you want or we can just give you cash. Barnes (08:23):Like right there, they do it? Cubby (08:24):Right there. Everything happens right there. Barnes (08:27):Wow, they take the tax out. Cubby (08:30):They mail you the, what is it? The W-2 or the 10- Barnes (08:32):Yeah. Cubby (08:34):They mail you that later in the year. So during tax time, and then you report it and all that. Barnes (08:39):So that sticks in my mind. What'd you do with the money? Cubby (08:42):You know what I did? I didn't go to an ATM machine for like years, because- Barnes (08:45):You kept it as slash mind. Cubby (08:47):I took the cash and they wrapped it in an envelope for me and a guy walked me out and I didn't put it in the bank. I know that sounds stupid. I'd literally just lived off it for like 10 years. Leslie (08:58):Bank robbers do that too. Barnes (09:02):You see why it's stuck in my head? Cubby (09:04):That's amazing. I love that story. Leslie (09:06):I didn't know that story. That's incredible. Barnes (09:07):My Leslie story is from New York. Also, one time when we were there, every year we did our show for a year there for MTV, and we were in the Empire State Building up on the deck. She turns to me and says, "Are we in the eyes?" Leslie (09:21):My husband loves this story. Barnes (09:24):I was like, "Fran, this is not the Statue of Liberty. It's the Empire State Building." Leslie (09:30):I was so innocent, you know. Cubby (09:33):This is why people love Leslie though. She's real, she's innocent, she's- Barnes (09:37):It just stays in my mind for some reason. When Fram's name comes up on my phone, I go right to, are we in the eyes? Leslie (09:45):That's staying in the Fram Hall of Fame, I might add. Barnes (09:48):QuiFit. Cubby (09:50):QuiFit. How can we top last week after the beginning of last week? Oh my God. Leslie (09:56):There's so many Barnes' stories, Cubby as you know. The fact that he doesn't like Stoli anymore, it's like because that was number one for him. Anyways, I digress. When we did a morning show together, we all had our top five list. Our fantasy top five Cubby. I think Brad Pitt was always number one on mine, but Barnes had a type as you can imagine. Barnes had a type, like Reese Witherspoon was always in his top five. Who else was in? Barnes (10:22):Number one forever. Leslie (10:24):Forever was Reese. Who else was in your, do you remember- Barnes (10:26):Jennifer Aniston. Leslie (10:27):Yep, yep. Barnes (10:30):They were the staples. Then the bottom three kind of rotated. Leslie (10:34):They rotated [crosstalk 00:10:35]. Barnes (10:35):Where's this going Fram? Leslie (10:39):Cubby, you remember the singer Dido? Cubby (10:42):Of course. Leslie (10:44):When Dido first came out at the radio station, the record rep brought her in. We did an interview on the morning show where we played her new song and she was lovely person. Really nice. So anyway, they leave the control room and Barnes immediately declares on the air that there's a change in his top five list. There's like an immediate change in the top five list. Barnes (11:05):I remember this- Leslie (11:05):Dido's going right to the top. Little did he know that Dido was in the hallway listening to this whole thing, because there's like speakers in the hallway, playing the morning show. They come back into the control room after they heard this whole thing. I think actually, she was probably delighted about it and she thought it was really cool. So she came back in, it was revealed that all of a sudden Dido is number one on Barnes' top five and then we all had dinner that night. It was a beautiful relationship. Barnes (11:35):It was the strangest thing. She was not known then. This was pre Eminem and all that stuff she did. Cubby (11:42):You kept in touch with her, right? I remember you- Barnes (11:43):For years. I haven't spoken with her in a long time, she's lovely. Such a cool girl. She would come to Atlanta all the time and we'd go out. We'd go to dinner. We'd go to Food 101 on Roswell road, we went to Prime at Linux. I remember that night. That was like a three hour dinner. It's not like all of a sudden Dido was my girlfriend all of a sudden. She wasn't, but it was just the weirdest thing. It's like high school, they left the room and I'm like, oh, they're not listening. Immediately, she's number one. Number one. Who's Reese Witherspoon. Cubby (12:10):Speaking of women, see my memory of Barnes, I guess it's more of a question. Barnes (12:16):I feel like I'm being attacked. Cubby (12:17):No, it's more of a question than it is a story but when I first met you, it was July, of 1991 when I first met you. Were you hitting on my date? That's my question I've always wanted to ask, because- Barnes (12:31):Who was your date? Cubby (12:32):I don't think you were hitting on her but you talked about how pretty she was. Barnes (12:37):Who was she? Cubby (12:38):I don't remember. I think her name was Alison and we dated for a year- Barnes (12:41):Well, maybe I was giving you credit. I don't recall hitting on her. Well, I wouldn't hit on your- Leslie (12:44):Wait, did she look like Dido? Cubby (12:45):No, she actually was brunette. So maybe not- Barnes (12:48):Well then there's your answer. There's no way. Leslie (12:50):He was always into blondes back then. Barnes (12:52):My top five was like, yeah. Cubby (12:54):Always blonde? Barnes (12:55):Always. Cubby (12:56):Okay, so maybe you weren't but I definitely think that it helped because I know how you appreciate a fine looking lady and we got to talking and you were like, hey, who's this fine, young thing? I don't think you said that but- Barnes (13:09):You make me sound like grandpa. I was 22 years old at the time. That's funny. That's what sticks in your head? That's your story? Leslie (13:17):That's hysterical. Barnes (13:18):For all these years? For 30 years? You've been thinking I was trying to pick up your 18 year old girlfriend? Cubby (13:25):She wasn't 18, she was like our age. Barnes (13:27):You were 19. Cubby (13:29):In '91, I was I just turned 20. Barnes (13:31):Okay. I'm sorry. You just turned 20. That's hysterical. Cubby (13:35):I have other stories of you. I have like, you and I did a bet together when I was working in Houston. and you were working in Kansas City and radio DJs we do these wacky things. Hey, if my team wins, I'll do this or you do that. We had a bet where the Oilers were playing the Kansas City Chiefs in the playoffs and if the Oilers won, you had to pump gas for your listeners. I can't remember what would happen if the Chiefs had won because I didn't have to worry about that. You lost and you had to pump gas and we got a lot of traction on, I believe in all the industry trade magazines on that. Barnes (14:11):I think the gas is probably because the Oilers, I'm assuming. Cubby (14:13):Well yeah, I get that. I can't remember what mine was going to be but that was our early radio days. Barnes (14:18):I had to pump gas for like three hours. Cubby (14:20):You did. I remember that. I remember that. Barnes (14:23):That was the worst. Cubby (14:24):It was your idea, too. Barnes (14:25):All right, thanks for reminding me of all these great stories. Good to know that you're still freaking out about your date. I love that. Leslie (14:32):Unbelievable. Barnes (14:32):Glad I hold that power over you, Cubby. All of these years. Cubby (14:35):Finally after 30 years, it feels great to get this off my chest, man. Barnes (14:38):All right. Leslie (14:39):I was getting ready to say pent up- Barnes (14:41):Yeah, something. Leslie (14:43):Are we ready for celebrity sleeve? You're ready to dive in guys? Cubby (14:46):Let's do this. Leslie (14:48):The Ellen DeGeneres saga continues. First of all, did you see that rumor that James Corden could be acting over her show? Barnes (14:55):What a perfect person to take it. Leslie (14:58):That's what the, "insiders" are saying. I think he'd be great. Barnes (15:01):He's probably the one driving the rumors now the most. Yeah, it's all true. It's all true, mate. Leslie (15:06):Her wife spoke up, Portia de Rossi is speaking up and her statement was like, to all the fans, we see you, thank you for your support. Then her brother, her brothers now coming out saying, okay, I need to say something. My sister is being viciously attacked and let me assure you, it is all BS. Barnes (15:25):I'm hearing the opposite. Leslie (15:26):Now I don't know if she's calling or the producers are calling these celebrities. Because you see a bunch of celebrities came out this week in her defense. Cubby (15:34):Katy Perry, I believe is one of them. Leslie (15:37):Katy Perry was one of them. Barnes (15:38):Kevin Hart and he got fried for it. Leslie (15:40):Now Ellen is, people are saying that Ellen is now going to quietly back up from her show because she feels "betrayed." Barnes (15:49):Quietly, with her how many millions of dollars? Leslie (15:52):She thinks she's a target and look, where there's smoke, there's fire. There's so many of these stories, and they just keep coming out. So let's see what happens. Cubby (16:00):There was like a kid I think not a kid, but they were like 11 years old. Barnes (16:05):He's like a VP of a marketing agency in New Orleans. I saw that. Cubby (16:08):Oh, it's a guy, right? Barnes (16:09):Yeah, it's a guy. Cubby (16:10):Okay. Yeah. Leslie (16:11):Well, I love it when two beautiful people get together and I will tell you social media was going crazy over this story. At the beach together, Bradley Cooper and Jennifer Garner. People want Jen to be in love after Ben Affleck had an affair with the nanny. People want her to be happy. You can't blame her. Barnes (16:29):Hey, Cubby? Cubby (16:30):Yeah. Barnes (16:31):Last time I was in LA at breakfast. Cubby (16:33):Who'd you run into? Where are we going? Barnes (16:34):I was sitting in my car, making a call and I heard this really thumping G Wagon, G Wagon, G Wagon come up and it parked right next to me like almost to the point where I couldn't open my door. Bradley Cooper. Leslie (16:45):Wow. Cubby (16:46):Were people confused on who was who with you next to him? Barnes (16:49):It was so confusing. It was two days after he won his Oscar and not one pap sign which was shocking. He went to this place, Heather, what's the name of the place where all the shops and- Heather (17:01):Farm Stands. Barnes (17:01):The Farm Stands in Brentwood. There's a great breakfast place in there. You used to be able to see people there all the time and Jennifer Garner was one of them that live in that kind of Brentwood heavy estate big huge, like $20 million house area. He popped up with his really tacky- Leslie (17:19):Shorts? Barnes (17:20):No, like the warm ups and a messy shirt like just out of bed and not one person was out there and there's usually paparazzi all around that place. Cubby (17:29):Was he by himself? Barnes (17:31):No, because then I walked in with him. Yeah, but he was by himself. Leslie (17:36):Barnes was hoping for like a buddy cop movie of he and Bradley Cooper. Barnes (17:39):That was my moment. Where are the pap when you need them? He was on the on a phone call when he pulled up and you know when it's really loud in your car and people pull up at a light and you can hear everything going on? Cubby (17:49):Yeah, it sounds like the Charlie Brown teacher. Barnes (17:51):Yeah. So he pulled up and his windows were down and he was blasting somebody, some guy, probably his agent or something. It was really random. Leslie (17:58):Remember the rumors of Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga when they filmed the movie together and people were like, ah. I don't know, but anyway- Barnes (18:05):By the way, I took a picture. Leslie (18:06):You did? Send it to us. Barnes (18:07):I put my iPhone up to my ear like I was on the phone and I just hit the volume knob. Snap, snap, snap. Leslie (18:13):Unbelievable. That's a sneaky move. Barnes (18:15):He was right there. Leslie (18:17):We got two Simons in the news, Simon Cowell, who had a wreck on his motorized bike over the weekend. People are saying he broke his back and has to have surgery. Barnes (18:27):First that came out and said he just had a minor injury and then all of a sudden he had a broken back. Leslie (18:31):I know. I don't know if he had a broken back or what but I've heard conflicting stories. Barnes (18:35):You know when you have a broken back, right? I don't know if there was like a question. They had to determine it. Leslie (18:40):Then there's Simon Fuller, the guy who owns the Idol franchise. Have you heard this? Barnes (18:45):No. Leslie (18:46):He wants to have the first of its kind show about forming a supergroup from TikTok. Cubby (18:54):My gosh. Leslie (18:55):Here we go. Cubby (18:57):It'll probably work though. I got to be honest with you, it'll probably work. Leslie (19:00):We do have a story about TikTok later and somebody who just broke off TikTok. So because Hollywood is out of ideas, we have reboots. We have all these different franchise installments and here we go, and revivals. Have you heard about A League of Their Own, a reboot coming to Amazon? Barnes (19:18):The movie? Leslie (19:19):Yep, a TV reboot of A League of Their Own is coming to Amazon based on the movie. That's one. Cubby (19:25):Not much original stuff much. Leslie (19:27):Here's another reboot, although I'm very happy about this reboot. Chip and Joanna Gaines are rebooting Fixer Upper because they own a network now. They have their own network. It hasn't launched yet. It's called Magnolia. So they're going to reboot that and it'll be huge because, like me, there are a lot of people that would just watch hours of Fixer Upper. Barnes (19:46):Those two kill it. They kill it. Leslie (19:49):Nev Campbell, reportedly signed on for Scream 5. Barnes (19:54):Where has she been? Leslie (19:54):I didn't know there was a Scream 3- Cubby (19:57):Or 4. Barnes (19:57):Where has she been? Leslie (19:57):Remember, our buddy David Arquette's going to be in it too. I don't know where Nev's been. Here's another reboot, or revival, Who's The Boss? Barnes (20:08):Man, Hollywood is out of ideas. Leslie (20:11):With the original stars by the way. Tony Danza, Alyssa Milano returning to reprise their roles. Barnes (20:19):30 years later? Leslie (20:20):Yeah, 30 years later, with Milano's Samantha now all grown up and a single mom. She's living in the same house as the original series. Barnes (20:28):Let's bring back Gilligan's Island. Leslie (20:31):We should. Modern day. Barnes (20:32):Where's Love Boat? They tried that again. Fantasy Island. Cubby (20:35):Yeah, don't get me going man. The Jeffersons, Good Times. I loved all the 70s and 80s and 90s shows. Leslie (20:40):Love Island, season two in Las Vegas. It's coming out, August 24. Barnes (20:46):How are they going to pull that? Their advertising during Big Brother which started this week. Leslie (20:49):What is Love Island about? Barnes (20:51):It's the typical, it's just a slight twist of every other dating show but they bring the beautiful people with a bad attitude. They all want to be social influencers. I think the elders get booked on this show so they can try to get a blue check and be an influencer. Cubby (21:03):Were you satisfied with your Big Brother first episode of the season? Barnes (21:07):I was very disappointed. They announced it was Big Brother all stars and all stars is a stretch. Don't get me wrong. I'm going to watch every minute of it still, but they had people that were booted on their season night one. How do you call them an all star? They didn't have any of the banner names like Mike Boogie or Dr. Will, any of those people that were big personalities on the show. Leslie (21:28):What a disappointment. Cubby (21:29):No Mike Boogie? Barnes (21:30):No. None of my came back. It's all like B level, C level Big Brother players. Multiple. Cubby (21:36):Leslie and I have no idea what you're talking about. Barnes (21:38):Come on. Mike Boogie. Everyone knows Mike Boogie. Cubby (21:41):You know Mike Boogie? Leslie (21:41):I have no idea who Mike Boogie is. I like the name though. Hey, by the way Lizzo, I don't know if you're a fan. I'm a fan. She has just inked her first TV deal with Amazon Studios. Barnes (21:50):Who? Leslie (21:52):Lizzo. Barnes (21:52):Oh, yeah, she's talented. Leslie (21:54):Ariana Grande is dropping another fragrance called R.E.M. I was like, wait a second. That's one of my favorite bands, R.E.M. What? What? Barnes (22:03):That's so confusing and so lawsuit worthy from the most non commercial band on the planet, REM. I have to think that they're already, I mean it's R.E.M. Leslie (22:13):Wait a second, Cubby, you're in the pop world. Did she have a song called R.E.M? Like, what is this based off of? Cubby (22:19):Not that I know of. There was never called REM. Maybe it was an album track but no, I don't know where that's coming from either. Did you guys ever buy a fragrance though from a celebrity? Barnes (22:28):I wear J.Lo all the time. No, of course not. Cubby (22:33):I thought maybe she had male fragrance. I wasn't sure- Leslie (22:36):One time we interviewed Kiss and they gave us some and I threw it away. Barnes (22:43):You don't want to smell like Paul Stanley? Cubby (22:44):There was a Kiss interview- Barnes (22:46):It smells like Michael Stipe that would make it really strange. Cubby (22:50):It's the end of the world as we know it, man. Leslie (22:52):This is shocking. E! News has been canceled after three decades. Barnes (22:57):That's pretty wild. Leslie (22:58):Streamlining their programming and restructuring, "to internally create more efficiencies." That's what NBC Universal said. Well, listen, The Pop Culture Show could take their place. We're right here, people. E! we're right here. Finally, this was actually kind of funny. We all know that Gordon Ramsay has a bit of a temper, so to speak, but now he's critiquing people's meals on TikTok. Barnes (23:22):That's the perfect thing for him. That's his shtick though. That's his whole thing. Have you seen it? Leslie (23:28):Have you seen it, Cubby? Cubby (23:28):I have not. Barnes (23:31):People do these little cooking demonstrations on TikTok. They're little quick, how to do whatever. Here's one of them. It's real quick and he splits and rips on them. (singing). Barnes (24:01):So he gets millions of views for that. Leslie (24:03):Did he just say you don't know how crap you are? Barnes (24:05):Yeah. He pretty much says the same thing in every one of the thesis. Cubby (24:11):Is there a series of these? Barnes (24:12):Yeah, just on his page. Cubby (24:13):Right. Okay, that's funny. Leslie (24:15):Ah, that's your celebrity news for this week. Barnes (24:17):Who's the artist that broke this week, this song is hysterical on TikTok. Leslie (24:22):Well, first of all, she's gotten millions of views on TikTok. Her name is Priscilla Block, but she released this country song and this I think is the first time this has ever happened. Cubby, I don't know if you've ever heard of this or not but her song went number one on iTunes After debuting it on TikTok. I mean, that's incredible. Barnes (24:41):Check this song out. I have to give her credit. The plan to get this out there was brilliantly executed and she works it and it's a step above a karaoke song. Leslie (24:52):It's like a country song. Barnes (24:54):It's got funny lyrics. So here's what it sounds like. Barnes (24:56):(singing). Barnes (24:56):It's two turntables and a reverb. Barnes (25:09):(singing). Barnes (25:14):She took like the, how to make a country song 101 post and put this together. Cubby (25:19):It really is simple. Barnes (25:20):Yeah. Barnes (25:21):(singing). Cubby (25:21):I feel like we're at a county fair. Barnes (25:26):Yeah. Barnes (25:27):(singing). Barnes (25:31):Let me get to the hook. Here's the hook. Listen to this. Barnes (25:54):(singing). Barnes (25:55):If you don't like these love handles, you can find me at McDonald's and trust me, you'll be loving it. Leslie (26:01):That's not the song that went to number one. Barnes (26:04):I thought that was it. Thick Thighs. Leslie (26:06):No, that's one of the funny songs. The song that went to number one was this heartbreak song called, Just About Over You, which is more of a serious country song, but that's one of our funny songs. Cubby (26:17):If that was number one, that would kind of freak me out a little bit. Leslie (26:20):No, she has a new song called Thick Thighs but the one that went to number one is called- Barnes (26:23):That's Thick Thighs. Leslie (26:24):That's Thick Thighs. The one that went to number one is called. Just About Over You, Priscilla Block. Barnes (26:29):Have you seen the new Reels' feature competing now with TikTok's? You got Microsoft trying to buy TikTok, you got Trump trying to end TikTok, you got Instagram trying to exploit TikTok and they come out with Reels. Leslie (26:41):I did. I have seen a few of those with celebrities and stuff. They're okay. Barnes (26:45):If you really want to get the review and I wanted to hold off and find out, can you grab the review team? Leslie (26:51):We have a review team for Reels? Barnes (26:53):Would you mind grabbing them? Yes, we have 15 year olds available for a quick review of the new Reels features on TikTok that would be Mallory Barnes and her friend, I don't want to out her friend. She can say her name if she wants to be outed on- Leslie (27:06):Oh, get your daughter on the show. That's great. Barnes (27:08):Yeah, come on in review team. Here they come. Cubby (27:10):So the to me, Reels is a backup for me. I'm still a TikTok guy. I love TikTok and I haven't checked out Reels yet because I'm like, I'll go to that when I really need to. Right now, TikTok is still up and running. Barnes (27:20):Okay. They can't hear you but say hello, Mallory Barnes. mallory (27:23):Hello. Eva (27:24):Hi, I'm Eva Russell. Barnes (27:26):So we have two experts here on TikToking and on the new Instagram Reels. What are your thoughts, one at a time? We'll start with you. What's your thoughts on the new Instagram Reels? Eva (27:37):I think it needs to be developed a little bit more honestly. The features that they have don't really compare to the features TikTok has, but I think they probably could develop it enough to get to the same level, maybe. Barnes (27:51):All right, Mallory Barnes. What do you think? mallory (27:53):I don't really like it. Barnes (27:55):You told me yesterday it sucked. mallory (27:57):Yeah, I think that. Barnes (27:59):Why? Why does it suck? mallory (28:00):Because they're just trying to make it like TikTok and I don't think you can make it like TikTok. I don't know. Barnes (28:07):Who's the hottest thing to listen to right now out there. mallory (28:09):Taylor Swift. Barnes (28:11):Taylor Swift. What about you? Eva (28:13):Yeah, Taylor Swift is good. Yeah. Leslie (28:15):Those are really good reviews about Reels. So basically it needs development. Barnes (28:19):Go to your audience, people if you want a review. Thank you review team. Leslie (28:22):Thank you very much. Cubby (28:23):Thank you, ladies. Barnes (28:24):All right, go back to sleep. Leslie (28:25):You know what's sad, it reminds me of whatever happened to Vine. Barnes (28:29):That was only here for 10 minutes. Cubby (28:31):So when Vine went away, I was bummed out and TikTok came back around but it goes to show guys, it's all about first in the category. TikTok is ruling this category. It's going to be hard to break them. All right guys, are you ready for my feature that could have a Grammy Award winning guest? Barnes (28:47):I already forgot. We got so busy on the show. I forgot you teased a guest and again didn't come through because I see nothing. Cubby (28:54):Play my intro please. Barnes (28:55):Okay, get magical. Speaker 1 (29:00):This is Cubby's pop culture throwback, a rewind into the vault of music, movies and moments. Barnes (29:06):By the way, who do you know that you get special intros for segments? There's no celebrity sleaze intro. Leslie (29:13):I know, I'm feeling a little neglected. Cubby (29:14):I'm surprised Fram hadn't bitched about that. Fram, do you want your own intro for your sleaze? Leslie (29:19):I'm not a bitcher. Barnes (29:21):There's your quote of the week. I'm not a bitcher. Cubby (29:24):This week we're looking back at what was popping in 1994. Movies, TVs and music. Barnes, Leslie, where were you guys in 1994? Do you remember. Barnes (29:33):I was sitting right across and Leslie Fram at 99X. Leslie (29:35):99X. Cubby (29:35):There you go. So at the box office, this week in 1994 it was all about this movie. Speaker 8 (29:43):How dare you come into this office and bark at me like some little junkyard dog? I am the President of the United States! Speaker 9 (29:49):How dare you sir! Speaker 10 (29:51):Paramount Pictures presents, this summer's most electrifying motion picture. Clear and Present Danger. Cubby (30:00):Harrison Ford and William Defoe ruling the box office. Leslie (30:02):That whole series, so good. Cubby (30:04):On TV, this week in 1994. Of course, we were still watching Seinfeld. Whenever you bring up a 90s pop culture it's Seinfeld, but we were also watching another big show. Do you know this TV theme? Cubby (30:21):(singing) Cubby (30:21):Anybody? Barnes (30:23):No. Cubby (30:23):That would be ER. ER ladies, gentlemen. That show ruled. Barnes (30:28):I didn't watch that show. I mean, I watched it, but I didn't watch it constantly. Cubby (30:32):I was the same way. I wasn't loyal but I watched it- Leslie (30:34):George Clooney was on that show. Come on. Cubby (30:36):There you go. Now to music we go. We're looking back at this week in 1994. The number one song on the R&B charts. It was Janet Jackson and she had a song called Any Time, Any Place. Cubby (30:51):(singing) Cubby (30:55):This is a kind of a forgotten Janet song but it was good. Cubby (30:57):(singing). Cubby (31:03):All right guys, the number one song on the modern rock charts this week in 1994. It was a great song and you guys were probably playing it at 99X. I was in Houston playing it. It was a Counting Crows song, but one you might have forgotten about. Cubby (31:16):(singing). Leslie (31:27):Can't forget about any of those. They were all great. Cubby (31:29):Yeah, but this one is like- Barnes (31:31):It was kind of a beside. Cubby (31:32):Yeah, whenever you mention Counting Crows to somebody, they'll say Mr. Jones first and then Round Here and they forget Einstein on the Beach. Barnes (31:38):I love that. What movie was that from? It was that movie. We started playing it. We were playing it and it picked up steam and it was such an odd song because it wasn't on an album. Cubby (31:50):Also Rain King, another great tune that was kind of- Barnes (31:52):Great. August and Everything After was such an unbelievable album. Cubby (31:56):I got the last one here for you on the country charts. It was all about John Michael. Montgomery and the number one song in America back this week in 1994 was a song called Be My Baby Tonight. Cubby (32:08):(singing). Cubby (32:12):The number one song this week on the pop charts, this week in 1994 and it would stay number one for three solid weeks is the song. Cubby (32:22):(singing) Barnes (32:23):I love her. Barnes (32:25):(singing). Cubby (32:25):I'm very fond of the song Lisa Loeb, and Stay from the Reality Bites soundtrack. Such a great song. Leslie (32:32):One of my all time favorite songs. Cubby (32:34):It never went away. It was just played on the radio forever and still played today. Barnes (32:38):This is the what? What anniversary? Cubby (32:41):This would be, well let me do the math here. 1994, what is that? 26 years ago, this week that that song went to number one and that song has such a great story and the artist Lisa Loeb is probably one of my faves of all time and- Barnes (32:56):Cubby? Cubby (32:57):What? Leslie (32:57):She was so cool. Lisa Loeb. So cool. Cubby (32:59):You guys interviewed her. Barnes (33:01):All the time. She was on our show a lot. Here's the thing Cubby. You have your own branded Cubby's pop culture throwback segment and you bring all these people up and I know this person and we have this person and we have these guys. You never really do anything and have them on the show. So you don't put your money where your mouth is and that's getting kind of old. I just wish you would for once, instead of having a clip half the person. Cubby (33:25):All right, hit that button. Hit the button third from your right, Steve. Now say hello, Lisa. Lisa Loeb (33:33):Hello. Cubby (33:33):I got Lisa Loeb for you guys. Barnes (33:37):Wait a minute, but Cubby- Lisa Loeb (33:38):Hello. You say. Barnes (33:41):No, you score boarded and you got a Grammy winner. Cubby (33:44):On her anniversary of Stay being the number one song in the country. Lisa Loeb, good to have you my dear. Barnes (33:49):Hey, Lisa. Lisa Loeb (33:50):Hello. It's so good to be here. You know you, well, all of you are very important to this song, but Cubby especially because he and you guys down at KRBE, when you were there, decided to play the song on the radio and that started a big, not a tumble. That's a big word, but it started a wildfire, an avalanche, something positive that, something positive. Cubby (34:12):Because you were on you were unsigned and we heard this song and we were playing it and I remember, if I remember correctly Lisa, Skip Bishop at RCA Records called us and said, "What is this song you're playing off of our soundtrack?" Because wasn't Reality Bites on RCA soundtrack. Lisa Loeb (34:28):Yes. So I was an unsigned artist. I had licensed my song, that's very technical, to RCA. So I was an unsigned artist and it was on the Reality Bites soundtrack, which was one of the best mixtapes basically that you could be on with U2, and Crowded House and I think, now I'm like who was on there. Lenny Kravitz, I don't know. Juliana Hatfield. It really ran the gamut. A lot of different types of artists and it was so cool. The song wasn't out as a single yet and you guys decided to pick it up and play it like a single. Cubby (34:57):This was back in the day when computers were monitoring radio stations and the record company said, you're playing the song like 50 times a week. Then it was already a proven hit in Houston and then I believe it just snowballed from there for you. Barnes (35:10):Weren't you the first artist to have a number one without a record deal? Lisa Loeb (35:15):Yes, and it's really still unusual. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more now because things are so independent. Now you're able to really put your music out. I think it wasn't until Macklemore put his song out, that they went to number one and they were independent. I will say it does take a team like people like Skip Bishop, who is the head of the radio promotion over there at RCA Records. Once you guys started playing it, which was really the first big step, then the record company and Skip Bishop really helped push that along and make sure that I went to every single radio station in the United States and the world, at 6AM. Leslie (35:54):The song's still played on the radio because it's timeless, Lisa. Tell us about writing that song because you didn't really write it for Reality Bites. Lisa Loeb (36:01):No, I didn't. I wrote it in New York City. I started in New York City. After I'd graduated college, I was in an argument with my boyfriend who was also my co producer at the time. I was like writing and it's funny because usually I write things a little bit more shielded and shrouded in mystery. This was just like, we were in an argument and I started writing about it, and I wanted to write a song also, at the same time, that was what was happening with the lyrics. Lisa Loeb (36:26):With the music, I heard that Daryl Hall from Hall & Oates, was looking for songs for his solo record. So I was thinking about Hall & Oates and those old songs like Sarah Smile, those great kind of blues songs with those great licks, guitar licks. So I started writing a song to a groove, and it was, if you listen, it has a little bit of, I have a guitar. Well, I happen to have a guitar right now. You can hear it kind of this. Because it's like (singing). Lisa Loeb (36:59):You know that kind of groovy like, it's not groovy, but it's a groove. I tried to write a song for Daryl Hall and then opportunity, unfortunately, it was not actually there or went away or whatever but it sort of inspired the feeling of the song. Then I wrote this weird song that doesn't have a chorus that's kind of like a book. It's turning the page as the story is being told. So it was an unusual writing experience for me, but it was a song that I played a lot in my concerts in New York City where I was living at the time at CBGBs and Lone Star Roadhouse and The Bitter End and all these places where you play in New York. Lisa Loeb (37:34):Ethan Hawke, he was my friend, he was one of the people who said, I really like that song. I was like, oh, cool. At one point, he asked if I had a copy of it that I could give to him to give to Ben Stiller, who was directing this movie that he was in. I was like, yeah, yeah and we scrambled to make sure we could put a newly recorded version of song Stay, which we were making for demo tapes, actually, for record companies were interested in and they wanted to know if we had recordings of some of my music. Lisa Loeb (38:02):So we had put together a band version of Stay and we gave that to Ethan on a cassette tape and he passed that along to Ben Stiller. Anyway, so it was written mainly for Daryl Hall. Barnes (38:15):What does it like to be, I mean, you really flipped the funnel, because here you have a number one song, no record deal and you're just like, come talk to me, baby. Because at that time, that was big record. Now it's so different. It's totally different paradigm. Lisa Loeb (38:32):It was exciting because I was an independent artist. I'd been writing songs since I was a little kid and making recordings in high school and all through college and developing what I thought was like a nice independent music career. We were getting really great crowds at our shows. I was playing at South by Southwest and a bunch of different music, like new music seminar. There are all these things that you would do as a new musician, to meet people in the industry and to get out there and to continue to develop your fan base. Lisa Loeb (39:00):It was really cool that after going to South by Southwest for a couple years and having different young A&R people coming to the shows, all of a sudden, that summer, that song was number one, all of a sudden. The same summer that I went to South by Southwest with my band yet again and now all the bosses of the young A&R people were like, wait, wait, who's that girl you've been talking about for a couple years? Lisa Loeb (39:20):Oh, wait, she's got a number one song on the, or this song is almost number one or number one on the radio. So it was amazing to flip it around and it felt it takes a lot to kind of, when you're a young musician, and even a lot of musicians, you're just very eager. You're very excited. You're like a freshman. You're like, oh, let's do this. We can do this- Barnes (39:38):What was the craziest thing that they threw at you? Lisa Loeb (39:41):Oh, I remember being on tour when the song was on the radio, but we weren't signed to a label yet. We were playing in Long Island I think and the bigwigs from Interscope took us to their mansion and let us go in their hot tub and they flew in on a helicopter to bring us pizzas from some special place. That was exciting, but yet even our A&R person who did sign with Jim Barbaro, as a young person who is in their early 20s, and I would still probably be excited about this today, they would take you to the grocery store, and you could buy any candy you want or like candy. Lisa Loeb (40:20):Or like, I'm taking you to a bookstore, and you can buy all the books you want. I was like, ooh, this is cool. You can buy any album you want. I would walk at a tower records with just bags of albums and CDs. It was crazy. Cubby (40:34):You don't mind talking about the song today, still. I really appreciate that. You still tell the great story and you're cool with being that song like such a part of your, being the biggest part of your life. Lisa Loeb (40:46):I definitely at the beginning, it was a little bit hard to be a kid who's like 24, 25, 26 years old and having been doing music my whole life and working so hard and putting out albums and people saying, oh, you're an overnight success. You just had that one song. To me, it was like, no, I've been working on singing and playing and recording my whole life. In the video, which was so cool that Ethan directed it, it was really, and I know the record company was excited that this famous actor is directing a video, but really what was cool about it was, it was a unique idea. Lisa Loeb (41:21):A one take video where I'm talking to the camera and telling my story, but I wasn't playing my guitar. So I had to fight this thing of like, oh, you're a pop singer, because I didn't have my guitar, you didn't see my band. You didn't know that I rehearsed with the band, and I tell everybody what to do and I write the songs and I arrange them and I work with, you didn't know the whole story. So for a few years, I did feel like I was fighting like, I'm a real musician, and you don't know the whole story. Lisa Loeb (41:46):Then I realized, soon thereafter, it might have been because VH1 behind the scenes was popular, watching some of the more seasoned musicians and the situations they had been through and even talking to musicians who were popular, and seeing how they looked at their hit songs, people who I was excited about in the 80s which seems so far away, but it was like two years before that or whatever. Lisa Loeb (42:08):Hearing them talk about it made me realize like, this is cool. Yes, I like when people know I've made almost 20 albums and I love when people know different songs, but to even have that one song that connects with people is such an amazing thing. Because I play live so much and even now I'm not playing live in a venue of course, but I do a lot of Facebook lives and Instagram lives and I have a fan club and there's so much connection with the fans that cameo messages. Lisa Loeb (42:37):I get to feel and hear those stories about the song and what it means to people and that means a lot to me. I was a big music fan growing up. I was a DJ growing up. I love hearing that from the other side. So I appreciate that- Barnes (42:50):Whoa, whoa, whoa, you were a DJ? Lisa Loeb (42:53):I was a DJ in high school for three years. There was a radio station at the boys school. I went to the girls school in Dallas, and at the Boys School, St. Mark's school they let me be a DJ. I think I was the only girl. It was at 88.5 KRSM. From the songs, ad also I was like the music director but I wasn't allowed to be the program director because I wasn't at the boy school. They made me the music director. I used to bring in these big peaches crates of records, you know those big wooden crates, and I was this tiny little 15 year old. Lisa Loeb (43:24):I'm still like a tiny little something else year old, but I would bring in these huge crates of records and I would play everything you always wanted to hear, but maybe you didn't own. So it would go from Led Zeppelin to a local Dallas band to a man falling down the stairs to a new wave track or whatever I felt like playing and it was so much fun and I also DJ'd parties. I loved music so much. Lisa Loeb (43:47):I collected it, I'd met the artists, we'd interview people. So to be on the other side of that is I appreciate the whole thing. I feel like I have more perspective and yes, it's awesome when people know every new song on your new record, like the new record, I Just put out in February, but it's also awesome if people the words and have a relationship with a song that I put out 26 years ago. Cubby (44:12):Well, it's so cool that you, I mean, again, you've done so many huge things and you still don't mind talking about how it all started. I want to talk about some of the new music actually. You sent me a song that came out a few months ago. It's called This Is My Life. Now, was this a one take video by the way? It was a pretty creative video. Lisa Loeb (44:30):This is not a one take video, but we did shoot it in my house and nowadays, it's funny. Back when we started making records in the 80s and 90s, you had a couple of videos. Now you need a video for every single song on your record. So we made 11 videos for the record A Simple Trick to Happiness and one of the videos is, This Is My Life and I'm playing an enormous Jenga game. Because life is kind of like Jenga, you're carefully trying to make the moves and then it can all fall apart. Then you build it up again and you start over again. In the video, there's more than one of me. It's like inspired by Bewitched. Cubby (45:03):I want to play you a little bit of your song. Check this out. Cubby (45:14):(singing). Cubby (45:34):All hook, baby. Nothing but hook. Lisa Loeb (45:37):That chorus weirdly, I don't know if you know The Monkees very well, but it's funny because the verses to me feel very much like Spoon. I love the band Spoon and they're very like tight and chunky and it reminds me of the 60s sort of blues inspired music of the who and those bands that I love so much. Then the chorus is I really wanted it to feel like this song Randy Scouse Git. There's a song called Randy Scouse Git by The Monkees and it's just like crazy and over compressed and everything's swirling around and we just kept having to add things, add things, add things to make it as noisy as possible. Leslie (46:11):What I love about this new record is you exude positivity. You always do. So you hear a song from you and it's Lisa Loeb, but even in the song Shine that you had, it's such positivity about life. Is this album really about looking inward and saying, you know what, this is my life and I'm happy, and I'm enjoying the simple things in life? Lisa Loeb (46:30):It is. It's funny, it's like, some people listen to it and say it's very positive and other people I've heard say, oh my God, it's so depressing, but in a good way. It is that. It's like I've always looked at things and as I've gone along, I've been able to put my finger on it and I even named an album this, The Way It Really Is. I like looking at things the way they are and the album is very personal to me. Lisa Loeb (46:50):I didn't try to hide things or anything. I wrote songs that were very important to me right now and I've found, it's been out a couple months. I find that other people in their lives really can relate to it because it does acknowledge that things can be hard, and things can get in your way and things aren't always the way you expect which now more than ever, oh my gosh, who knew what was happening right after the album came out that we would close everything down and have this crazy virus happening and all the racism and things just bubbling to the top. Lisa Loeb (47:22):So right in our faces all the time and all these important things and things can be really hard but you can realize and in the songs, like you said there can be positivity you realize, wait, I have what I need, or wait even with all the bad stuff I look in my life and you know what, there are some really cool things here and trying to appreciate those things. Lisa Loeb (47:44):I have a song called Another Day that's on the record and we just shot a video for another song in my house. We decided to shoot a lot in my house because it was such a personal album and we just shot another video we had to move all this stuff around the house to get it where it needed to be. So all of a sudden, I started picking things up like mom's, no offense to anybody, but often moms are just picking up, picking up, picking something off the floor, picking things up. Lisa Loeb (48:11):I told the videographer, the director I was working with, I'm like, start shooting me. This is the video for Another Day, because this is what it's about. It's those everyday moments and Cubby, you know now that you've got this baby, cute, it's just like, it's oh my gosh, oh my gosh, this is tough. I'm picking up this thing, all these little things in my daily life. Then just this glimpse of a moment that just makes everything worth it and it's just this unusual thing and I realized that's what it is while I'm picking up my entire house. Lisa Loeb (48:41):Then there's the thing that you see or a thing that you interact with your family for just a moment in a positive way. Not always positive but in a positive way. So the song, Another Day captures that. We can do this for another day, but like I say in the song, some of the days are not enough. Sometimes it's just so tough. Barnes (48:58):Is your song, My Third Bottle of Wine on there also? Is that on this album? Lisa Loeb (49:03):It's not yet. I do not drink enough, you guys. It's my problem. I drink coffee in the morning and now I drink a little more coffee in the afternoon, but I just don't drink enough. I tried, every year. Ever since 1994, there was like more in '94. I'm going to drink more. It's like my goal. Barnes (49:22):The one problem you cause in households with your success, Lisa Loeb, which my wife is a huge fan. She won't say hi, she's sitting right here. Lisa Loeb (49:31):I saw her walk by. Hey. I see a hand. Barnes (49:33):She will be in the kitchen like dinnertime. It'll be Alexa, play Lisa Loeb and then this happens. Barnes (49:47):(singing). Barnes (49:47):Hold on, I want to hear your rap. Barnes (49:49):(singing). Barnes (49:56):I say that's a problem because you're having wine, you're hanging out and your children's music gets mixed in with your regular music and Alexa doesn't know the difference and it's funny. Lisa Loeb (50:06):It is funny. I will say that a lot of the children's music is really, other than the nursery rhyme record which I did for Amazon, which I did like over 32 nursery rhymes. I didn't really appreciate nursery rhymes. I initially started making kids music, especially after my first record for kids. It was really for me, it was my nostalgia of growing up in the 70s. I'm actually I'm wearing a mood ring right now even, but it was my nostalgia. It wasn't because I liked kids or knew anything about kids. I loved, like even that song you just played from my album, Feel What U Feel, to me it's more like (singing). Lisa Loeb (50:46):All the songs we listened to rollerskating in the 70s and this era, where the grown up stuff and the kids stuff, it was a little bit more intertwined like the old Sesame Street from the 70s was really funny and clever and dry and grownups definitely could appreciate it. Then you had grown ups stuff like the Donny & Marie show and Fernwood 2 Night and stuff that was just so, and Steve Martin and things that appealed to children because they had a funny sense of humor and storytelling and so I wanted to do that. So that's what a lot of my kids music is. So it's okay if it gets mixed, even when I- Barnes (51:20):It's just funny because when you're drinking, the last thing I want to hear is (singing). It's just so funny. Lisa Loeb (51:27):Some people don't know the difference between the grown up stuff and the kid stuff- Cubby (51:29):You got to keep drinking, Steve. Lisa Loeb (51:30):Yeah, right. Barnes (51:32):That's the music that got you a Grammy. You've had such a weird career that's like, I would have given you a Grammy for Stay. Cubby (51:38):You got the eyewear from, that was 2010 I believe. You- Lisa Loeb (51:43):Yes. I have an eyewear line called Lisa Loeb Eyewear. Barnes (51:46):You're a total hustler. I love that. Entrepreneurs- Lisa Loeb (51:48):I just have lots of ideas and I like to do them. Leslie (51:51):Yeah, you're exploring all your passions, and when you're independent, you can do that, which is exactly what you've been doing successfully. Lisa Loeb (51:57):Well, when we all started out, you do one thing. Oh, you're a DJ. Okay, you're just a DJ, that's all you can do. You're not allowed to do anything else, but now if you have other ideas you can do them in it's totally cool. It's totally fine. I'm so excited that that is accepted and the norm actually. If you decided to open your jalapeno, whatever, your hot sauce company, your pet shelter, whatever you want to do, people are interested in that. They don't think oh, you're not a real DJ now because you have a pet shelter. They think, oh, that's so cool. Barnes (52:31):We were just talking off air. I'm about to open my gazpacho company. I'm going to be selling my courts of Barnes' pacho. It's my ancient- Lisa Loeb (52:40):Are you serious? Barnes (52:41):Oh, yeah. Lisa Loeb (52:42):See, I think it's so exciting and people want to know. Barnes (52:45):I'm ordering labels today people. Lisa Loeb (52:47):See. Barnes (52:48):I'm going there. Lisa Loeb (52:48):My daughter has a slime business. I know all about labels, containers, shipping. We're getting into the whole thing. Cubby (52:54):By the way, Lisa, what do you do? You look exactly the same from when I met you. I don't know what you're doing. I don't know what pill you're taking to stay young. Lisa Loeb (53:02):I drink water. I drink water. I think I focus on sleep. I eat well. I eat what I like, which is really great. Like pizza, little mini ice cream cones. A lot of broccoli, a lot of kale, a lot of vegetables. So I eat well, I sound like one of those dog food commercials. I eat well, exercise, but I do. I walk every day or take a bike ride. I do strength training a couple times a week. Barnes (53:28):You don't drink a lot. Lisa Loeb (53:29):I don't drink a lot, which might be the thing. Also, I'm always interested in things, and I wear sunscreen. I wear sunscreen every day. Leslie (53:37):That's a good tip. Lisa Loeb (53:38):Sunscreen and hats, but I wear a mask now all the time outside. I try to stay engaged and things and I try to, like we were talking about my album. It's not about being positive all the time, but it's about I try to look inward. I try to see what's going on in my life, what I would like to change about how I'm acting, what I'm doing, what's going on with me and my relationships and my family. It's not always good, it's not always perfect, but just this kind of introspection, looking at my life, trying to figure out how to grow as a human. Lisa Loeb (54:12):I'm always learning. I try to think about, well, what can I do for fun? Like I love crossword puzzles. I started printing out my Sunday New York Times crossword puzzle on Sunday, and I put my schedule on the back and throughout the week, I just work on my crossword. So I try to stay engaged. Keep doing things that I love. Cubby (54:27):You actually did a crossword puzzle with, I was reading with Doug Peterson of the New York Times. Lisa Loeb (54:32):Yes, I got to write a crossword puzzle. Oh my gosh, that was a huge thing. I was thinking about random things that I'm so excited about. I've been doing the New York Times crossword puzzle for years and years. At first, I thought it was super boring. You know like those things where you listen to PBS with your grandmother and you're like, oh, my God, this is so boring and then you find yourself listening to NPR all the time. You're like, oh, okay. Nova used to be like, oh, they're putting Nova on the TV and now you're like, oh, that's really interesting. Lisa Loeb (54:58):So the crossword puzzle used to be really boring to me. I think it was difficult, but then I loved doing it and they asked me to write a crossword puzzle for the New York Times, which was just so exciting. I love that. It's just so different and it was like writing a song, this collaboration with another person to write a crossword Cubby (55:14):Was it hard? Lisa Loeb (55:16):It was hard, but I was working with a seasoned professional. If you've ever been on Southwest Airlines, this guy, Doug writes all the crossword puzzles for Southwest. He's written books and books of crossword puzzles. So it was really fun to work with him. Leslie (55:28):Do your kids know that their mom is Lisa Loeb. I mean, come on. Lisa Loeb (55:33):Sort of. It was funny last night was putting my daughter to sleep. I read with both kids every night. I think it's kind of selfish. It's kind of like watching a TV show because we read these great books. So I'm like, we got to get another chapter in. So I'm reading my own book and I'm reading books to all of them, but my daughter, I had all this makeup on because I do cameos, these messages and also they started doing Zoom meetings. Lisa Loeb (55:54):So I had a Zoom cameo where I get to actually hang out with somebody and talk to them. I did a bunch of cameos and I had some other stuff I had to shoot so I had eyelashes on and my whole full face of makeup, which I do way more than a lot of other people normally do during COVID-19. I have full face of makeup often. It's weird when I'm in the neighborhood and I see the other moms. I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm wearing like eyelashes and you could photograph me from a mile away and see all my features. Lisa Loeb (56:20):My daughter took my face in her hands and she said, "You look like Lisa Loeb." I was like oh instead of like, I do the mom lobe of like, I'm tired. Can you please pick up your socks? I had my lashes. Because when you have that makeup on, you just look like you're awake and you're from the 60s. Your face is stuck that way. Barnes (56:40):You look like you're in the 60s right now. What room are you in? I see a landline rotary dial telephone on the counter. Lisa Loeb (56:47):I know. I like that. That's the other thing. I am in my guestroom office. I do writing over here. I've been writing a lot at my grandfather's old metal desk, which I love and I've got all my books, well, not all my books, some of my books and stuff. This is the guest room, which for a while was the storage room because my husband turned the garage into his screening room. So everything from the garage came in here, but anyway, I've been clearing this out a lot. Lisa Loeb (57:14):This is a guest room/my work writing room but I'm obsessed with things from the past also. I think I'm going to do a YouTube something experience. Think about this, the things that you eat, the things that you listen to, you smell, you can go in a time machine. If you put on a song from the 70s like (singing). Play that, wear some 1970s clothes of like when you're a child, I don't know jeans that are really stiff. Cubby (57:48):But only serve food from that era. Lisa Loeb (57:50):Yes. So then you walk, and you literally you listen to the song and then you say can I have a piece of pepperoni pizza and a coke please. Maybe in an accent some from Texas. Can I have

Jake and I Just riff about upcoming video games and vaporware. And Elon Musk and his sons name. Joe Rogan got a mention in there to.

This week we will talk the topic Vote or Bust?  Do you vote or nah? Our Feature this week is Tariq Cooper from I Just want to Grow up Program. Their website is https://www.ijustwanttogrowup.com.  The Tea of the week is African Solisice. The prodcut of the week is Rockthevote.org. 

Welcome back to the fuel your legacy podcast each week we expose the faulty foundational mindsets of the past and rebuild the newer, stronger foundation essential in creating your meaningful legacy. We've got a lot of work to do. So let's get started. As much as you like this podcast, I'm certain that you're going to love the book that I just released on Amazon, fuel your legacy, the nine pillars to build a meaningful legacy. I wrote this to share with you the experiences that I had while I was identifying my identity, how I began to create my meaningful legacy and how you can create yours. You're gonna find this book on Kindle, Amazon and as always on my website, samknickerbocker.comWelcome back to fuel your legacy. And today we have another incredible guest I love bringing on people from all different walks of life, people who have accomplished different things and are really focused On, on different aspects, they're bringing their light their love to the world in different ways fulfilling and sharing with other people. Billy Bross is someone you're gonna want to go follow him on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, these places, but he, he loves just helping online education companies and course creators break through the noise and fill their programs with committed high quality content and students students, right so part of its getting the students in part it's making sure their contents ready for that. He left a really great career honestly in renewable energy industry to go full time into his side hustle, his heart, his hobbies and ultimately his passion. So that's what I love about the people that I'm bringing on is that they've made that transition, and they're able to give us a light and knowledge as far as how we can make that transition in our own mind. He also runs a home and online home beer brewing school, so if you've ever wondered how to make Your own bruise and go check him out, he's awesome. Okay, so with that, I'm going to turn the time over to him, but I want him to be able to share his story and why he made the transition, how he made it, and how did he know when it was the right time to take that leap, quit his promising career and jump in full time to what he loves doing. So. Billy, thank you for being on here. I'm excited to hear your thoughts and and what we can do to become are following your footsteps. Awesome. Hey, thanks for having me, Samuel. And yeah, if anyone needs a good beer brewing recipe, then I'm your guy hit me up. Are you a craft beer fan?I actually don't drink alcohol at all. But I have family members who do and I know a lot of people who do.It wasn't a we'll talk about the business. It was a lot of fun, although it wasn't the healthiest business to run.Yeah, so thanks for having me again. And yeah, so you know, I I'm not the typical entrepreneur Am I very much like school, and a lot of entrepreneurs you hear dropped out of high school, or they kind of bash college and say, just get out there and start selling stuff and growing businesses. I actually liked learning and that's a theme that you're gonna hear from me. I love education. I'm very curious. I've always loved learning new topics. I remember in fifth grade, I was really into reading Popular Science Magazine. I would only read two parts, I would read the very front and the very back. And the front, they always had the section called what's new, and it's about all the cool new typical technology fields. And then in the back, it was always a classified section. And they're always like these really like kind of interesting, quirky ads. And I was I was like, wow, that's, that's kind of cool. You can build a helicopter, and then you can fly around. You can like buy a DIY kit on how to do that. That's really interesting. So I've always been interested in both science and art. So in business and creating new ventures, so I went through, went through all of high school, went through college, and then I went to grad school and got my MBA. So I took the very traditional path. But when I got that first job, which was a great career, I'll go into that. When I sat down the very first day at that desk after that, my boss remember, he gave me a tour of the office and everything and then finally sat me down and I was like, Okay, now this is assuming I don't do anything. And I just say the past, this is my life. I'm gonna be at this desk an awful lot. And I was excited to be there. But at the same time, I said to myself, this ain't gonna last too long. And so it wasn't too long after that, that I started on the side because I had this free time during nights and weekends, I started a beer brewing blog. So got really into brewing craft beer in college, really geeked out on like I do with a lot of things and decided to start writing about it and posting homebrewing tips and videos and things like that. So eventually, that was what allowed me to this was six years later jumpship when I was finally ready to leave that job and that career, I had this side hustle going, as you mentioned, and that was what enabled me to really forge my own path.That's awesome. So I'm curious. Because I mean, I know you say you're a proponent of education, and, and schooling, where would you I mean, do you feel like there's a line between schooling and education?Is there well, you can certainly have education without depends on what type of schooling you're talking about. And I think there certainly is a place for traditional education. But I think the whole I know the whole industry is getting disrupted right now. And I and I work with because I I work with online educators now online experts, teachers, teacher entrepreneurs, who are working in these areas. Well, for example, I have one on my school I'm working with and they teach artists. So digital artists, mainly people who do concept art for movies and video games. And traditionally, they would have to go to a university to get these skills and pay $100,000. And then they're not guaranteed anything afterwards, not guaranteed income or jobs. And now you have this online school, who I'm helping, and they help these artists they do it through $500,000. Sometimes a little bit higher price courses are still premium price for online but much cheaper than $100,000 for a traditional University. And the best part is these course creators are practitioners in their field. So they're in the trenches, they're, they're working in this area, and so they can tell their students how to succeed not just in their craft, but in the business side of their craft, which is so important. And now they're even starting to pass on jobs to their students as well. So, you know, there's certain there's certainly, there are places for traditional education. I mean, you wanna become a lawyer, you want to become a doctor certain fields like that engineering, but for, for some of these other fields, that's not necessarily the best path.And I think I think, for my cuz of how you caviar, like oh, I'm not one of those entrepreneurs that bags on it. I think that most for my experience, I all I do pretty much is an interview entrepreneurs of some sort CEOs, people who are successful in business or on the other side, mother's father, and just like, I guess I do interview a wide range of people. But I think most of the entrepreneurs that I interview there, although I would consider myself in this category, I bagged on traditional education, to a degree, but only to the extent of, I think that you could go get the same or better education from an online course. With somebody who is still practicing in the industry, and has some real life experience over going to a college, where that may or may not be the case, as far as crack practicing, and as you said, you pay now you walk away with $100,000 either spent money or debt with no guarantee of a job. And so, I think that's where, at least from my experience of talking to people, that's where most of the if you want to call it animosity comes from in that conversation. It's not that they think that to become a doctor, you shouldn't go have somebody practice and teach you that. But even even with that, being a doctor, being a lawyer, I hope not true, but I would say even with that, there's a lot of people who have gone through all of that education, formal education to get their degrees and in the process, they found that they actually are better able to serve clients or patients by you. Using methods that aren't necessarily taught in school, but to be able to use those methods, they have to have the credentials. And then they end up going off and doing functional medicine, which they could have done. They just want to have the licenses to do so without the formal education. So it's an interesting balance. I think education is everywhere. I don't think you should go fail.I shouldn't. How do I say that?I think failure is essential. Okay. I think we should be willing to fail, but fail different than the people in the past. Like if you're going through and you're making all the same mistakes that everybody else made. You didn't learn anything. Yeah, you know, guys like my point you need to go and create your own.Like, take and this is what this is one good thing that I think I gained from public like from my college years that I don't, I don't Where I would have got this otherwise, sure there's places, but how to conduct effective research is a very, like, if there's nothing else you learn. That's a pretty dang good thing to learn. So you can actually read medical journals and say, Okay, what exactly like how are these samples done? What's it? How are they using statistics? How are they doctoring statistics, not just medically, but business wise, if you're walking into a business and they lie, whereas $4 million company and you're like, Okay, and you have $10,000 extra every month, because your operating costs are like you're barely surviving doesn't matter that you're making $4 million of revenue, if 3,000,900 you know, whatever, if it's all going out in expenses. You're, you're struggling, right, one bad month and you guys full, that's different than somebody who's netting $4 million every year, you know, so, being able to read, statistics read and be able to research stuff i think is important. In in that so something I feel like I'd be Effective from there when you're helping somebody build effective content. What does that look like?Well, the important thing is to always start with the audience. So a lot of this is a trap that a lot of and I fell into this trap, too, that a lot of experts and people are just subject matter experts, people who know a lot about their topic. They become obsessed with the topic, and obsessed with the content. But it's that whole set hole, if you build it, they will come thing not being true. When it comes to selling education online. A lot of people think it is though. So you want to start you want to find products and content for your audience, not customers or an audience for your content. And there's a big difference there. So the most important thing is to focus on what is the problem to be solved, or what is the thing that they want, and then try to in as few steps as possible. That's a big mistake, too. You don't want to over people are overwhelmed with information. You don't want to just dump a bunch of insight PDFs on their lap. So you want to get them from really our noun to that endpoint and as a efficient manner as possible.I agree. And so with that, just because you're you have helped over 500 companies accomplish this. How do you address it? I guess if it's online, when you're doing online courses, how what percentage of these online courses have an active teacher, somebody who's involves teaching in it, and how much what percentage is just recorded content, like an online course is recorded, and they're gonna buy it and pay whatever and it was made once intellectual property and they resell it multiple times without updating? Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah. So so it's shifted over the years. So it's very different than how it was when I first got started in 2009 2010, where it was a lot more self paced, more on demand more of a separation between the teacher and the students. And now what we're seeing is The model that we like that we see working in that we teach is more so that other end of the spectrum, or more closely resembles a true college class or college semester, where you're taking people in, you're taking them through as a group, we often call it call it a cohort, kind of nerdy term, as we call it. And, and it can be 100% live teaching, it can be pre recorded, plus maybe some office hours or some support calls. But usually, there is some, I think, going forward, the way of the future is there's got to be some kind of support some kind of live interaction, because if not, I mean, the, the, the numbers right there. I mean, the lesson is right there in the data, and that only one to 3% of people actually complete online courses as just as terrible. It's terrible all the way around. It's terrible for the students. It's terrible for the teachers as well, any entrepreneurs because, you know, most of a business's revenue should be coming from repeat customers. Because the most expensive thing you can do Doing a business's get a new customer. So if they're not if they're failing at that initial product, initial product is not working for them. What are the chances that they come back for more?I agree. Have you add sure you have in this space heard of lightspeed, VT said again? Have you heard of lightspeed vt it rings a bell I'm not too familiar with it though. Brad Lea is the creator CEO of the of the service, I would highly recommend looking it up his his service what I like about his service, and this is not necessarily a plug for him, but why not? You're listening. You want to create an online course, why not plug for guy he's awesome. Um, but it's a very interactive so unlike a typical video course where it's like, you use watch it hope they watch the help they got out of it inside of the video. There's a lot of interactive things, you can click on. And it's like building a sales funnel. But in video course form, so like, I could be having this conversation and then say and what's what level was your income? I'm, I'm fine. And so that makes sense, right? What level is your income 50,000, whatever. So they're gonna have three options they pop up after me and based on which button they push, then they're going to hear different content from me based on where their level of knowledge is at, or it's going to relocate them back to where they need to hear, hear what I just said. So they can so we can contest comprehension contest, make sure that the people are getting what they need because you may have somebody who's taking an elective class or taking a course just because like they need the basics but they already understand half of the what the content and most courses and make you go through the same like the same path. And so they're they're only getting, like everybody's getting the same cookie cutter information rather than saying okay, I want to buy this course on so Media, for lack of a better word, right? There's people who don't even know that on social media, you should have all of your profile pictures be the same across social media, you should have all of your banner pictures be basically identical, you should have all of your your descriptions about who you are like there's, that's like step one, before you get started on marketing before we get started I that have uniformity, like that's important. So that person, maybe that's where they're at? Well, the other person may already have all that done already have been paying for ads for a while, but just needs to know how to write more effective copy, right. And so for that person, they can go through and get the first half of the course done, still get credit for whatever, but they get the first half of the course done super fast, because they have advanced through that they already know it. And then they can move on to the part that they actually want to do faster versus having a course where they're bored for the first half of the semester lose interest before they actually get the content that they wanted and then they don't complete it. So anyways, it's a personalized learning paths. No, those are excellent. Yeah, and it's a, it's one of the cool things you can do with online education technology. And it's a great way to increase results. So I love that. I'll check that out.Yeah, he's said he would be actually a good. He's super, super cool. If you reach out to him on Instagram. He's in. He's in Vegas. And he doesn't do interviews unless you come to his office. So that's a thing there, but he would be a great person, I think, for you to be on his podcast.Cool. Yeah. That was my mom go to Vegas. Yeah.Yeah, no, it's uh, and he's super chill. And he also I shouldn't say loves beer, but he drinks beer. So you'd have to be able to contact or like, my kind of guy.Yeah. Um, anyways, so So let's talk about this. When did you I mean, you got out of your working your corporate gig. You've got out of beer, I mean, creation, I guess craft beer education. So was that really That the transition from like, how did you transition from your corporate job to teaching people how to create educational, like content?Yeah, good question. Yeah. So so I left the full time job in the, in the renewable energy industry to run this beer website. And so fortunately, you know, again, I'm not the traditional entrepreneur, a lot of entrepreneurs were just like, jumped ship, I wanted to have money in my savings account, I want to have a decent amount of consistent income coming from that website. So I got to that point where I felt really confident that I could cut the cord with a full time job and have a viable business. And unfortunately, that happened, but it was really more of a springboard that website into where I am now. My intention really wasn't to be the beer guy my whole life. That was just a cool project that I was working on and I want to be experienced doing it and of course, wanting to use it to leave my job. But I really missed working with with other things. People on teams and collaborators, really smart people like I was doing. I didn't, I didn't have that anymore when I was running the beer website. So So I started joining these online forums and communities and meeting other people like myself in all different niches. And even though a lot of them were beyond me, they still I can still notice things in their business gaps, especially in their marketing, where I would say, hey, if you just move this thing over here, or just do this or get this page up, it could really explode your growth. And so more and more of them start to reach out and I started doing some consulting on the side. And that eventually became my main passion, helping people like myself who had the subject matter expertise, but didn't have the the business expertise or the marketing expertise to get it out there. And because I had learned that and I had this traditional business background, that combination of skills, put me in a good position to help them grow their business, and that's what led me to where I am today. So I sold the the beer website actually a few years ago. So that's now in someone else's hands. But but he's doing a good job with it. We're still in communication.Good hopefully hopefully turned to pretty penny that Scott. That's awesome building websites, I didn't know how like that I don't have anything that gets a ton of traffic. But you can just like go by URLs and or domain names. And if you put something on there and get a little bit of traffic and like build up the name on Google like you can that's a way that's a form of investing right there it's kind of interesting business model but it's it's cool to see like how much what I paid for my my domains and then how much they've increased in value since I've put content on their websites and add things pushed to them create a connection. So it's a cool it's a cool thing to see. So I'm curious. I liked the way you said this, I guess is you had a bigger goal and so many people they think, Oh, I'm I'm in this business. For me. I work in finance, right? My objective is not it is my objective. is financial but I'm in finance because of the the bigger goal, right? The bigger goal for me being in finance is to help people with well, as they understand how money works, then they it decreases statistically decreases causes of depression, anxiety, suicide, domestic violence, malnutrition. And those instances decrease when there's higher income, or at least understanding how money works in a home. And so although I work in finance, that's not my main gig, my main gig is what it produces. At the end. I think that's important for people to understand, especially when they're trying to identify well, do I jump ship? Do I go do my own thing? Or what is it exactly that you're jumping ship from and to? I think that's a huge, huge, huge question to be answered. Before you quit your day job before you go anywhere. What exactly are you jumping to? And as Billy said he wasn't jumping to the beer company to become the beer guy. That wasn't as objective. He saw that as a project as a current way of expressing himself in, in other forms of creation. And I think that's important because so many people will get fixated on a certain thing. And they'll say, Well, I don't know anything. I only know how to be a mom, I only know how to garden. I only know how to create videos, I only know how to make beer, right? And so they don't see their value outside of the task that they're doing. And this holds people back. So many people back even in their corporate jobs, because they think I'm only good for what I'm being paid for. Instead of recognizing that the value that they're adding to that company is so much more than the tasks that they're fulfilling. And if they were just to go market, just the value that they're adding, personally, they could probably increase your income, even if they didn't want to change what they're doing. They could take that out of a corporate And go perform those tasks by themselves and be able to create the same or more income more regularly and be in more control of their income. So that's a huge thing. And then understanding that this happens. I would say this happened to me as well, especially with this podcast. Like just kind of the the germination of this podcast is I was doing Facebook videos about different topics. Facebook Lives, I did them every day for I think a month did a month of Facebook lies every day. And what I found was people were reaching out to me and saying, Man, I would love to listen to all of your content, but I can't leave Facebook on all the time. You should turn it into a podcast. I was like, Oh, I never think about that. But I'll turn into a podcast then. And so so so many times, think about what are you complimented on the most? What What do people compliment you on? What do you think? What do people say? And if I Just think like that. Or if I could just do that, what is the most common thing that people say about you in that context? And then reach out to Billy and say, Hey, Billy, how do I turn this into a course? Yeah, I turn this into an online course. Because clearly if there's enough people who recognize my gift, even though I don't recognize my guests, how do I make this gift? able to reach more people? And how do I monetize it? Right? How many times does that happen to you, where you have somebody who comes to you who wants to create a course isn't quite sure exactly how to do it. They know their audience, they know what they what they're trying to teach, but they just have no idea how to monetize it, how to make it effective for their end consumer.Oh, it happens all the time. Yeah, it happens all the time. And and I'll tell you what I tell them because the wrong way to go about it is to go disappear into your basement for nine months and go record some amazing video course. It's been a ton of fun. On software and lighting and microphones and all that stuff, editing, distribution, and just to find out that no one really wants the topic, no one really wants what's being offered. So, this is good news. This is good news because you don't need to put so much pressure on yourself to have something completely polished and dialed in. The way to do it, especially now going going forward is to take that audience first approach, like I talked about, start to build a following get in the trenches with your audience, hop on the phone with them even I've talked to dozens of my customers and email subscribers when I was running that beer brewing website, not selling anything, just hopping on the phone and just asking questions. And look, I was part of my market. I was brewing up a storm. So I but I still my mind was blown all the time. And I was surprised by the things that people would say and what their problems were. So don't fall into that curse of knowledge. You know, where you think that you know it all. The market will tell you and you'll often be surprised. And then just get something out there. Just get something out there. Take an iterative approach. And this is really my approach to to life, you know, and the value that I provide. And like what you were asking earlier. I mean, I see myself in a really strong point of leverage for two reasons. One is I think personal growth is the most important thing in the world. And one of the ways that we can solve a lot of the problems that we have in the world, yes, there are a lot of problems with society and the economy and all that. But if everyone really focused on themselves, and focused on if I focused on making myself better tomorrow than I am today, and I did that consistently, every single day, if everyone did that, we'd be in a really, really good position. And one of the ways to do that is through education, through online learning online courses, and it doesn't matter what niche you're in. What tends to happen if a person is improving in one area, even if it's something sort of like insignificant by most standards, like brewing beer, people don't think that's entirely a life changing thing. But it is and I would see how my students would come in and they would fall in love with this hobby. And that passion would exist. from them, and it would spread to their family, their wife, their kids, they would all see it. And next thing you know, everything in the household is uplifted. Right. So that's one leverage point working directly with them. But I took a step back and said, Okay, let me work with the entrepreneurs and the teachers, the teacher entrepreneurs who serve them. And now we get into, so now I'm able to help them reach more people. So improve this collective personal growth going on throughout the world. And also, I'm a big believer in small businesses, they really are the engine of the economy. So that's I love working with entrepreneurs. Now, they're the innovators, they're the job providers are the ones paying a whole lot of our tax dollars. So that's what gives me a lot of fulfillment. I see myself really in a great place of leverage and aligns with my values. The main one being personal growth.Yeah. And I think that that's the key is identifying what isyour personal value and how are you aligning yourself with your personal value, I think once so I have a I have a my journal, a journal that I created. But it's called the nine pillars to build a meaningful legacy. And the focus is identifying who why why would it be important for you to actually exceed or succeed in life in general. And it's part of a grander process of identifying your identity. And as you said, your your values for me my core values are candor, integrity, and gratitude. Those are like more important than just about anything else. And when I really analyze who I am, without any fear of judgment for not saying God or saying family or whatever, without any fear of judgment of anybody else, what am I personally internally committed to more than anything else in my life, and it's those three those three values and so I built my business I built everything I do in my life down to my marriage, my children, my everything, based on those three values and all of these need to be present in everything I do. I'm not interested. And when you're looking at jumping ship or going something new again, Be aware of what you're leaving and what and where you're going. Because I'm sure I want you to tell me some failure stories of people who have done this what I'm about to describe, hopefully, some, if you don't, that's amazing, but I think you probably will, but people who they, they were doing this, I decided to create this course or education, out of desperation, because rather than running towards what they were passionate about, and running towards what they love doing, they were running away from what they didn't like doing. And that distinction is huge. just choosing to try it, try and create as, as you would say, try and create a product that you can sell just because you don't like what you're doing right now. Your current, your current work. That is not the way to move forward. It's not I think it has a short lifespan. You're not going to be a long lasting educator or innovator anything but if you are passionate about something and you're running towards what you like, you're gonna have different results. So tell me a story of where you've had Somebody who is running from something rather than towards something.Yeah,well, I can give you my own example. Sure, sure.Yeah. So when I, when I made that transition from running the beer site to doing consulting full time, I was doing some service provider work. So I wasn't just consulting, I was also helping people build and maintain their Facebook ad campaigns and the natural path. And so I eventually pulled back from that because the natural path if you start doing that is to grow an agency. You know, so you start to look at Okay, how can I get more clients? How can I do a better job with this and you're just gonna wind up in that agency playground. Turns out I didn't really didn't want to run an agency. It just, it doesn't align with what I enjoy doing. It's not me, much more of a strategist, much more of an architect. I don't want a big team or anything like that. It just didn't match up with the lifestyle that I wanted. And I always start with the lifestyle and reverse engineer that So I started to go down that path, but then quickly pulled back because I had that feeling like and yeah, I can deliver value here. But this isn't, this isn't my zone of genius. So a lot of my life has been like that testing different things, seeing how it feels. Sometimes you just have to write like, I didn't know what that that day to day was like, it looked good on paper, running an agency getting a lot of clients. But when I was actually in the trenches of it, I said, No, I don't feel so hot. Let me go back this other direction.Yeah, I think that's that's huge. Being able to dig, like to determine and decipher between that What are you running from something you write to something and making sure you're running to something that you love and that you're going to bring the light and Joy to the world not just from what you don't like because it's just barely I haven't seen it pan out very well for many people. And it's good that you were able to recognize that before you got too deep into something you hated and decided to. You never know happens honestly. So I'm curious when you did make the jump though. What was your? Did you Who are your biggest naysayers saying no, don't do that. Why give? Why are you giving up this great job? Tell us the story of your biggest naysayers and how you overcame them.I have been really fortunate in that I've always had a tremendous support system. I really can't think of one person I'm close to. I can't even think of one person who said, You're dumb. Don't do that. Don't leave that full time job. It's great. Everyone was just like a really great cheerleader. Just Hell yeah. Billy, go for it. So I've never had anyone say that, fortunately. But I have had haters, you know, running. You wouldn't believe that running a beer website. You get haters, like, I remember I was. I was, uh, I did some videos about a beer cocktail and some British one. And I guess they're very strict about how they make these beer, beer cocktails where you mix two beers together a beer and some other kind of a silly thing. But people will get on YouTube get really upset and passionate about pretty trivial things. So I'll get flamed in the comments if I made the recipe wrong or something And then and then I would have people just generally upset that I would sell information. A lot of people just see that as a big No, no. How could you possibly sell this, especially in a niche, like an enthusiast niche? You know, the beer market? People are a little bit touchy about that. So, so yeah, I certainly had my fair share of haters, but but no one no one saying, hey, you shouldn't be doing that as a career or a business fortunately.Right? So how so? How did you overcome that? Because there's people who, maybe they have support in their career, but when they see those comments online, when they see that the haters, they're like, Oh, no, am I doing something wrong? Maybe I should adjust my my approach my market like maybe, maybe I should change maybe I get doing whatever I'm doing. So how did you learn to just let that roll off of you or not give it any credence? Like how did you move past that and say, Look, I'm doing me you do you and you don't want to do it, whatever. If you want to post crappy things, that's fine, too. Whatever.Yeah. So a big Part of it was looking to mentors. So looking to people who either mentors I knew personally or mentors from a distance I just followed online, who were a few steps ahead of me, or many steps ahead of me and had way more haters than me and seeing them talk about it. I remember I think it was a roommate safety, if you know who he is heard of him? Yeah. And he had his own version of Have you seen mean tweets against what he's called Jimmy Fallon, one of those late nights? Yeah. President Obama will be on there reading all the mean tweets about him and he makes it funny. So Remi did something like that, I think was him and maybe James altucher. And they're reading all the tweets. It was like this funny, they're sitting around the fireplace drinking whiskey or something, and reading some of the hit the April comments on their YouTube videos. So I've Oh, I'm a big fan of humor. So I used humor to approach it and just kind of have to laugh at them. You know, it's silly, right? And I don't take it personally. And I realized that they only see they only see a sliver of me and my personality. Right, like they saw maybe just the first three minutes of that YouTube video and that's all they know about me. Right? So I have a lot of empathy.I think I love that. I think that and that's really the whole purpose of my book or one of the major purposes of my book is exactly that. How do you like gain perspective of what's really happening? So often in our world today, we get sucked into like, Oh, this is such a big deal on Facebook. It's like no, like, literally in two days, nobody's gonna remember this thread even happened. We've got it got to keep in perspective there, how much they know about you. It's not an attack on you. It's an attack on their perception of, of what's happening, which is entirely different than on you. So I love that what would you say your your secret? If you have like a specific habit, mindset or behavior that you have participated in regularly to build your legacy? What would you say that is and how could we adopt that into our lives?Yeah, so it's really I'm a big fan of positive habits. So having a strict morning routine. Having a strict nighttime routine? And then and then self reflection. Am I improving? Going back to what I said earlier? Am I a better person than I was yesterday? Am I smarter than I was yesterday? Am I more skilled in this area than I was yesterday? And if you just do that day in and day out, I forgot the exact numbers are. But I think if you if you improve 1% each day after 70 days, then you're twice as good as you were before. That's been the biggest thing for me again, personal growth.Yeah, no, I love that. It's awesome. So how could we support you if we wanted to get in touch with you? Let's say we have a course that we want to create. Or we'd like to maybe take part and see what see what courses you helped to create and just take part in some of those that you've already helped create for other people. Do you have a list of all the companies you've worked with? And so we'd go cruising back. Oh, yeah, he's helped dessert. I'd like that type, of course. And where do we get in touch with that and how do we get more involved with what you're doing?Yeah. So nice and simple, best ways to get around. My website Billy bras calm b i ll y VR OSS calm. And yeah, there's a bunch of case studies on there. And you can see a lot of the courses that I've worked with and a lot of the niches that I've worked in, you can hop on my email newsletter, I send out a almost daily email newsletter. I'm a huge fan of email marketing as a channel. I just think it's the most intimate, personal way to communicate but I do it very differently than how most people do it. So So yeah, that's that's a very popular.Okay, cool. So here's the here's the last two sections on my podcast are some of my favorite. So this this second last section is called legacy on rapid fire kind of like a game show. But there's, there's no right or wrong answers. But there's five questions. And we're looking for one word, one sentence answers. I may ask you to clarify any one answer at any given time.Fair enough. Let's do it.Awesome. So legacy on rapidfire number one, what do you believe is holding you back from reaching the new Next level of your legacy.Hmm.sorting the great opportunities from the good opportunities. That's the constant challenge.That is and what have you found to help you in that endeavor?There's actually I actually have a really tactical thing that I use. It's a formula that I've discovered by Brendon Burchard. And I can't remember the little complicated, but you essentially look at everything that goes into an opportunity, the resources, the time, the money, the sanity, that you need to invest into it, and see if the payoff. So the financial payoff, the doors that it opens and how it fits into your lifestyle, how those balance out, it's kind of like a scale. So it's not perfect, but it's a good framework to use to evaluate opportunities highly recommended. No, that's awesome. I agree that you have tohave some formula of determining how You spend your time and where you spend your time. And I talked about it from a perspective of, you've got to become the CEO of your own life. And that's the CEOs job to determine like, hey, which contracts we're getting in? How are we increasing the value to our shareholders, if it doesn't weigh in the favor of increasing the value to our shareholders, now worth my time, and, and being able to hold that standard to yourself and for others, it's a nice school concept. I love it. It'll be a book one day, but like that might be a course before it becomes a book. I'll see. So what do you think the hardest thing you've ever accomplished has been to this point,running a marathon?I haven't done that. So I will, that I would tend toseegoes to the head and then like 10 or 11 years old, and had no not no intention of running this half marathon. On, but my, we were all showing up. We all showed up to support my family and my older sister who had been training while she was warming up that day, she pulled a muscle or something so she couldn't run. And so she's like, Well, does anybody else want to and I was like, I have two or three other brothers who are running. So I, you know, like sketcher Skechers. The shoes had like a leather, almost like nice, classy leather. Skechers shoes. That's what I had on. And I was like, y'all run? Why not? So I ended up running this half marathon in Skechers shoes. I was like 10 or 11. I was like, That will never happen again. So I haven't ever thought to brave another half marathon and

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      On this episode of For All Abilities The Podcast, I talk with Wanda Deschamps about her late diagnosis of autism. She was diagnosed with autism at the age of 47 when she was struggling with mental health issues and her son was diagnosed with autism. She talks about the challenges of being a woman with autism.  She is the principal and inclusivity champion at Liberty Co. Liberty Co partners with organizations and individuals advancing meaningful societal causes.  You can connect with Wanda through LinkedIn (Wanda K Deschamps). Please check out the great work Liberty Co. is doing at www.libertyco.ca.    Thanks for listening to For All Abilities today!    Share the podcast with your friends, they’ll thank you for it!   Get our newsletter and stay up to date! The newsletter link is on our website www.forallabilities.com   Follow me   Twitter: @betsyfurler   Instagram: @forallabilities   Facebook: @forallabilites   LinkedIn: @BetsyFurler   Website: www.forallabilities.com         Full Transcription by Otter.ai   Betsy Furler  0:05   Welcome to for all abilities, the podcasts. This is your host, Betsy Furler. The aim of this podcast is to highlight the amazing things people with ADHD, dyslexia, learning differences and autism are doing to improve our world. Have a listen to for all abilities, the podcast and please subscribe on whatever podcast app you're listening to us on.   Hi, everybody, welcome back to for all abilities the podcast. Today I have a special guest, Wanda Duchamp's. And she is going to tell us a little bit about herself and her diagnosis on the autism spectrum and some other diagnoses that she again was not diagnosed until adulthood. So welcome Wanda. Thank you so much for being here.   Wanda Deschamps  1:00   Thank you for having me, Betsy. I really appreciate the opportunity.   Betsy Furler  1:03   Yes, I can't wait to learn more about you. So why don't you start by just introducing yourself to my audience.   Wanda Deschamps  1:10   My name is Wanda, and I live in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada with my husband, Ryan and our children, Adrian and Renee.   Betsy Furler  1:21   Great and I usually like to start by talking about asking my guests about their childhood. So if you could tell us a little bit about what you were like when you were a little girl, that would be great.   Wanda Deschamps  1:35   Well, I was curious from the start, my husband Ryan asked me once if I was born, inquiring about how many stripes zebras had and why the sky was blue and why the crosswalk was yellow.   very naturally. Curious and I love learning.   Betsy Furler  2:05   Were you a good student when you were in school?   Wanda Deschamps  2:10   I was a good student in elementary school. I struggled socially. Mm hmm. And struggled academically as I progress through junior high in high school, however, initially elementary school Yes, I was strong, especially around languages. English library.   Betsy Furler  2:39   Did you like to read a lot as a child?   Wanda Deschamps  2:41   Yes.   Do I   love to read as a child? Then I love to read isn't at all.   Betsy Furler  2:51   Did you have any siblings?   Wanda Deschamps  2:53   Yeah, something very unusual as the youngest of 10 sibling. Wow. Yes. And my parents were 40 and 51 when I was born. Mm hmm. Oh, not only was I a very unique child, I was a very unique child in a very unique family.   Betsy Furler  3:14   Right, right. And I know in big families often the older kids are helping supervise the younger kids, your parents were probably fairly tired of parenting by the time you came along. And   Wanda Deschamps  3:27   very astute observation.   Betsy Furler  3:31   I know I'm tired of parenting and I only have two. So   Wanda Deschamps  3:36   the   Betsy Furler  3:39   Yeah, I bet that did make for a different dynamic. Did you get along well with your siblings?   Wanda Deschamps  3:45   Well, always interesting. I say that I was more of an elite child than I was a child with a number of siblings because of the age gap up and just because some of our families serve circumstances I actually ended up spending a lot of time alone. By and large, I got along with my siblings, of course, more so than others is often the case in a large family. There is some family members I literally didn't know until I became an adult. Oh, interesting. Yeah, because we just didn't have that time together. I mean, I think a sibling relationship is something that you always have to nurture, right. I'm, I'm a believer that we, we don't really know. Many people very well. Even people we live with it takes a lot to get to know someone it takes some takes investment on each side. Yeah, but Sir, I've had the good fortune of getting to know some of my older siblings better. as we as we as time progressed, and as the age difference between us became less important The years.   Betsy Furler  5:01   Right, right, because when you're when you're a child, you know, five or 10 years is a world of difference.   Unknown Speaker  5:07   And this means even more.   Betsy Furler  5:09   Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I now my kids are six years apart. And they're really like having two only children. Mm hm.   Wanda Deschamps  5:19   So, yes. So you understand to Korea, right,   Betsy Furler  5:22   right. They get along and they, you know, they definitely know each other well, but it is different with that gap. So you said you struggled socially in school. So what did that look like? Like in elementary school in middle school?   Wanda Deschamps  5:36   I had different interview process I   I would say I felt like I had more Maclaurin trust from the beginning and an example I use politic. So if I was, if I was bored, asking, you know how many stripes deeper that it seemed like I was born for asking questions, politics, Right. I say that that was like drinking milk from a bottle. You know, it was it there was a an instinct behind it now ated ated with the situation was the reality that my father was a political science professor. Okay. Yes. And members of my family were were even if they weren't engaged politically, I had a number of family members or variables in the community. So say there's a level of civic engagement and I had especially one family member who I'm very close to who was involved and who was involved in political activity. So, but even even beyond that, I was, I was very interested and I remember the first time I asked my father specific political question, I was about 10 need to write only to write the political leader who would be able to answer my question. So I did.   Betsy Furler  7:07   That's amazing. So with my son Henry, who's almost 22 now I say that he was 65 when he was born, so now he's like an 87 year old. So it sounds like you were similar to that when you were a little girl.   Wanda Deschamps  7:21   Yes, I was, I would, I had what you would describe as mature interest for my age. I would say that followed me. And then at a point, things settled and I would say got caught up because having an adult and having adult interest is is a good match.   Betsy Furler  7:47   Right and then your friends are now the people around you are thinking about the same things and and you can connect with them on the things that you're interested in. Whereas a child I'm sure there weren't very many other 10 year olds cared about politics   Wanda Deschamps  8:02   as much as I did. No, not at all. So now we have gretta. Yes, yeah. Yeah.   Betsy Furler  8:12   So what about college you went off to college I saw on your LinkedIn profile and and I think I saw that you majored in sociology.   Wanda Deschamps  8:22   Very good. I did major in sociology only by one course. Minor history, but it was a six five split. So, not to get too far ahead, but I ended up pursuing my masters in history. Social History, though. I'm University was frustrating because my marks did not reflect either my investment of time and energy and studying or my interest and my understanding of the curriculum and we Now that I've been diagnosed, I understand   Betsy Furler  9:04   that you just weren't spitting back out what the professor was asking for. Or what do you think? Where was the disconnect?   Wanda Deschamps  9:13   So   the constant internal dialogue meant that there was something in the way of me processing the information. So I wasn't able to comprehend the information, as I say, in a way that truly reflected my investment of time, energy or my interest or my understanding of the curriculum. And then I was really doubting myself and the self doubt followed me throughout my whole life, so it pours didn't help but it only compounded the situation that even when I actually understood the content, I would tell myself because of these, these experiences that I had had So, University in a number of ways was a difficult time. It was also a great time, and that I was very involved in extracurricular activities. So that was fantastic. And I also met a number of great people, friends, some of whom I still in touch today.   So what did I want to do that?   I took a year Business College, I looked at a number of options. And I decided on Business College in Halifax, Nova Scotia, which is capital province, Nova Scotia where I'm from, and then I began working in the nonprofit sector starting in post secondary education and I'd always been passionate about learning which I already shared with you and, and knowledge and formal education, even though I always I did not always do well in that environment. So I began working at a university and alumni programming fundraising program and I really really enjoyed it.   Betsy Furler  11:08   So where did the diner the dinosaurs come in?   Wanda Deschamps  11:12   Not until almost 23 years later. So I began working I really began my career at the age of 2324. And I've worked in charitable sector the entire time, whether it being universities or in as a consultant. And   I was not diagnosed until almost 47   Wow, wow.   get to that I had a diagnosis.   I was really struggling, um, by the time we hit end of 2016, and definitely by the beginning of 2017, I was really struggling. I had struggled before That we moved to Regina, Saskatchewan from Halifax, Nova Scotia and 2011 to 2015. And I had struggled there at times. But there are so many other things going on that I was able to manage cope slash, moving to denial that I pushed my own realities away. However, by the time we moved to Waterloo, as I say, end of 2016, particularly beginning of 2017, I just, I was headed into crisis and I really started to break down that March. And I had a full breakdown that may and I was in treatment by May. I had gone back into counseling around April and received her younger son's diagnosis in May of that year as well. And For another reason I had a pre scheduled doctor's appointment on May 25, the day after we received Rene's diagnosis on May 27. And I said to my physician, I would like a referral for a psychological assessment. I believe that I have autism too.   Betsy Furler  13:20   I think it's called a parent parent diagnosis.   Wanda Deschamps  13:27   I'm challenged using the word common because we are in such new territory here that the under diagnosis of females with autism, misdiagnosis with due to other mental health challenges that are brought on because individuals have not been diagnosed earlier. This is still frontier territory. So I don't really know what common is I know that we're seeing increasingly numbers of adults received diagnosis, particularly women. But this is such a thin pool that we're operating from. We really need, we really need to dig deeper into the research and the good news is that that's starting to happen.   And more and more getting diagnosed   Unknown Speaker  14:23   in adulthood, which is amazing. Yes.   Betsy Furler  14:28   And not getting that. How did getting the diagnosis changed your life or what you were doing?   Wanda Deschamps  14:35   I said to the psychologists that it was a relief.   The diagnosis of of autism was a relief. I had convinced myself that I was stupid. So I had gone through my life thinking I was stupid. Ah, that's all was difficult was more difficult for me to believe that coming to the end of my time in Regina and finishing my master's however, I still I still fundamentally believe that, um, and she said today but you are good at math and I said no and I always thought it was because I was stupid. So the autism was a relief, but at the time I actually put the autism on the back burner, because at the same time, I was diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder, generalized anxiety and anxiety related to the autism. So I decided to enter PTSD treatment. So that was placed on the front burner because my issues there were more acute. I was, I was hyper vigilant. And we had concluded my therapist deny that The eye I movement therapy was the best approach for me so I had to take the time I had to get into the proper mindset for that therapy so that moved to the for the autism moved to the back.   Betsy Furler  16:16   And how did after that treatment How did your career change or family life? You   Wanda Deschamps  16:22   know, your day to day life?   Oh, I say I living my life. I had never lived my life before. I we were into   Betsy Furler  16:36   you are kind of pretending they're trying to be somebody else.   Wanda Deschamps  16:40   Always trying to turn Oh, it's always holding back. Not not 100% sorry, not Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't. I was holding back. I was not being 100% Wanda, but it's not like I was not one that at all. Um, but it was no 100% one now I am living my life as one that, um, things change though. Things change in my work environment, things had to change. I was no longer willing to tolerate certain behaviors the way I was being treated I, I said to someone, something I'd never said before I, I was always open to feedback and I have always been open to feedback. That is something that so many people have said about me. Um, however, it got to the point that I actually said to someone, if this is about changing wonder, that's difficult. My whole life I change, change, change, change, change, change. I called it acrobatics, and no, no God to the point that Wanda was going to be wonderful So I had to leave my work environment, and I became an entrepreneur. So in the work side, I am in business with myself and home and community and with my friends and my family I Sam living life is real Wanda.   Betsy Furler  18:23   That's wonderful.   Wanda Deschamps  18:24   It is wonderful. That's why I named my firm Liberty coat to signify that confronting the facts brings us freedom. So that's the part of this is one day. I'm not gonna change for every second person who says that I don't fit this or I'm not that or whatever. I'm gonna live by my own principles and my own values. And I'm the new so this new freedom that goes along with that which is incredible. And something I noticed is that when you increase your self esteem, and you are comfortable in your own skin, people treat you differently anyway. So once I started treating myself much better, I'd always had fabulous people in my life consistently. work, school community family, I've always had incredible, incredible people in my life. I didn't give them enough prominence. I let other a few other people always creep in because I didn't accept myself. So I always gave those few other people and there was always someone there's always a few people in every environment there always is, but I let them have way too much Say because I didn't accept myself fully so I don't do that anymore. And I give the prominence goes to all the incredible people who have always been with me and the incredible people I have met And I need it feels like daily.   I need incredible new people.   Betsy Furler  20:08   That's amazing. I think when you do it when you're true to yourself, people sense that and, and it just opens   Wanda Deschamps  20:15   up the world. They do and I'm also more relaxed.   I said to someone recently during an interview, I didn't accept myself. So I wasn't I was very self conscious. And I also was not comfortable meeting necessarily everyone in the way I want it to. I wanted to do data want to connect with all kinds of people. However, in some cases, I was held back and that was because I was so self conscious. And now that I'm more relaxed, I find that I met so many people from all kinds of different backgrounds, circumstances And I'm connecting with them in a deeper manner. It's not just superficial. Um, and so many people are sharing their stories and they want to be part of different movements and different initiatives that I engage with and it's fantastic. It really does snowball.   Betsy Furler  21:26   And tell us a little bit about your company.   Wanda Deschamps  21:30   Liberty CO, is a consultancy for nonprofit nonprofits who wish to expand or enhance or refine or renew their charitable giving something that I have branched off doing. Just as 2020 is that I launched a new division called women for women. And the line is meeting you, you where you are. So that's letter R, and it's about supporting other women. So one thing I found is that women have not always necessarily supportive other women as much as we might, as we might, as we might be able to, and in a way that could really take us further towards gender equality. So I was encouraged by a few people, they noticed by messaging, my social media content, sentence, level of my involvement was very female, positive and very inclusive. So they encouraged me to do something to really think about this in a more purposeful manner. So I launched women for women, ah, January 7, and the response has been over whelming I really can't believe that we're only well it will only be two weeks tomorrow. Wow. There's so many people connecting and it is it's really as simple as that. It's supporting other women. Um, in which you Every way shape or form that you'd like to that you feel someone needs support, someone tells you they need support. And it's grassroots and really taking off and it's the hashtag women for women. And I'm also working with a few other individuals through Liberty co promoting issues of importance to them. So an author, a former NHL lawyer, and now author and men's mental health advocate, Steve softail. I'm working with him and I am working with Emily O'Brien, who founded her business in prison while removing barriers to employment for formerly incarcerated individuals, and she sells popcorn kinds of kernels. So I'm working with those two individuals and very good fortune of working with them directly working with organizations through Liberty CO and explore Other partnerships just one other thing I'd like to share with you but Liberty CO is that I'm part of the movement to bring equity to the charitable sector. Charitable sector has actually locked equity even though we are female based in terms of number of employees, we have not seen equal representation at the leadership levels. And we have greatly through sexual harassment by donors, volunteers and leaders in the sector. So part of the movement I'm very pleased to say that started in Canada however, it did reach out to our good friends in the south. We had a national day of conversation November 22. And we are looking at our national day of conversation 2020 and it will be Canada and us and hopefully beyond and this is about bringing equity to the charitable sector. We call it in the names of US Senator bringing justice to charity.   Betsy Furler  25:00   Very good. Well, I will definitely keep an eye up and I that ah,   Wanda Deschamps  25:05   that'd be great. And of course we Betsy worked together in the inclusion revolution. Yeah. But yes, and that's about celebrating ability. There's no dis. It's about stability, and it's about everyone in the world being recognized for everything that they can contribute.   Betsy Furler  25:30   Absolutely. Okay. I always say looking at strengths and differences as strengths.   Wanda Deschamps  25:37   That is it.   Betsy Furler  25:40   What if people want to connect with you? How can they what's the best way for them to connect with you on   Wanda Deschamps  25:46   LinkedIn? I'm on weekly in a lot of my email addresses on my LinkedIn account. However, I will share it I wanted a shot Liberty code.ca starting to be Be more active on Instagram. However, LinkedIn is my platform of choice. And I'm would love to hear from you whether it's about the inclusion revolution men's mental health, equity in the charitable sector, or like what Emily's doing is really bringing previously underrepresented groups into full participation, whether it be in our workplace or our post secondary sector, or in the community or wherever people can be their best selves.   Betsy Furler  26:42   Well, fantastic. Well, this was just a delight talking to you today. And all your information in the show notes.   Unknown Speaker  26:51   Okay.   Unknown Speaker  26:55   It's and so people can   Betsy Furler  26:58   connect with you and I Just such so pleased that we had this conversation, I can't wait to see what you do in the future.   Wanda Deschamps  27:06   Awesome i and i really do encourage people to say for people to reach out to me, I really, I'm really enjoying connecting with all kinds of new people and learning with and from each other and sharing information. And that's something that technology is really empowering. That is.   Betsy Furler  27:31   Well, thank you so much, and have a wonderful day. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening to the for all abilities podcast. This is Betsy Furler, your host and I really appreciate your time listening to the podcast. And please subscribe on any podcast app that you're listening to us on. If you'd like to know more about what we do and our software that helps employer support their employees with ADHD dyslexia, learning differently. As an autism, please go to www dot for all abilities calm. You can also follow us on Instagram. And you can follow me on LinkedIn at Betsy Furler episode Frank, you are LR Have a great day and we will see you soon.

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For All Abilities – The Podcast Episode Eight - Ron Kerns -    In this episode, I interview Ron  - Autism and Neurodiversity Advocate and Graphic Designer. On the podcast, Ron talks about his autism diagnosis later in life. We discuss how Ron uses his Neurodiversity in his career and how he found a career and a position that allowed him to work to his strengths.  To connect with Ron, please follow him  on LinkedIn (Ron Kerns) or email him at ron@StudioKerns.com.  Check out his work at www.studiokerns.com    Go to our website www.forallabilities.com for information on our software that enables employers to support their employees with ADHD, Dyslexia, Learning Differences and Autism. Thanks for listening!  Betsy     Thanks for listening to For All Abilities today!    Share the podcast with your friends, they’ll thank you for it!   Get our newsletter and stay up to date! The newsletter link is on our website www.forallabilities.com   Follow me   Twitter: @betsyfurler   Instagram: @forallabilities   Facebook: @forallabilites   LinkedIn: @BetsyFurler   Website: www.forallabilities.com     Full Transcription from otter.ai   Betsy Furler  0:00    Hi, everybody. Welcome to for all abilities the podcast. Today I have a special guest. And this is Ron Kearns. He is going to introduce himself to us talk about his diagnosis, which was later in life. And what that diagnosis means for him now in his life, and what it might have been like if he was diagnosed as a child, and how he uses his brain to be a highly successful person. So Ron, welcome to for all abilities, the podcast.   Ron Kerns  0:44   Thanks for having me.   Betsy Furler  0:45   Yes, thank you so much. Why don't you introduce yourself to my audience, tell us a little bit about where you're from what you do now. Anything else you'd like to tell us about yourself?   Ron Kerns  0:59   Okay.   See Where am I from? I grew up. I grew up in Detroit, in Michigan, and then four and then after college and all that for many years we lived in for 20 years. We lived in Dallas. And then 2016 we decided it was time for change and we moved to rural northern Arkansas. And that's where we are now.   Betsy Furler  1:32   Yeah, I saw that and one of the articles I read about you that you now live in Arkansas and you do have some fishing.   Ron Kerns  1:40   Yes, I'm that we live just a few miles away from the White River which has some of the best rainbow trout fishing in the country. It's absolutely fabulous.   Betsy Furler  1:49   That is great. I love fishing.   Ron Kerns  1:53   I am a professional graphic designer.   I have done work. in pretty much any environment, you can come up with over my almost 30 years career in house corporate, working in ad agencies on my own as a freelancer, and I could, and I currently work for a university. There is a small campus for Missouri State University. And that's a short drive away. Just across the border over into Missouri. That's how far north we live in Arkansas. Wow. So that's since I guess, so that's so that's I've been there at the university for it'll be it'll be two years in May. And so and that that particular job has just been going fabulous, best job I've ever had.   Betsy Furler  3:00   That's nice to hear. And you were diagnosed with autism as an adult, correct? Yes, I was 46. So tell us a little bit about what you were like when you were a little boy   Ron Kerns  3:15   there.   The one overpower the one overlying theme from when I was a kid was when I was in school. I can remember pretty much walking into kindergarten for the very first day, all of a sudden feeling like I did. And the bullying started pretty much right away and continued K through 12. So I stayed within the same school system trait the entire time. I was in school and it just so that was a huge part of being a kid when I was a kid.   I did find some   some   relief from that I   would say   refuge from that I when I was about seven or eight my parents got our family a piano. And so piano playing became my, my, my blanket. security blanket. I played and played and played forever. There. Oh, here here's an idea to give you an idea how That became such a huge thing. I can remember being in fifth grade and I would take a pledge black magic marker and draw all the keys on my desk. And so that way I can sit there and play the piano in my mind playing Wow. Wow. I'm   Betsy Furler  5:23   so you could kind of escape to that that would be right now   Ron Kerns  5:28   that was my that was my escape. I'm teachers in the janitors didn't care for so much. All right. I didn't have a quick didn't know I didn't have a reasoning for it. Um, there was one particular date with the entire class was heading to a field trip. So the class entire class was just abuzz with activity and just kind of overall madness is everybody was excited about going on this field trip.   I just kind of   hunkered down and was gotten to just zoning everything out, playing my panel on my desk. Then, at some points, the teacher put her head, her hand on my shoulder. And it kind of got me out of that. And I realized that everybody had left and they all got on the bus. And I was and I had no idea. And the teacher was like, it's time to go now. Kind of a thing.   Betsy Furler  6:40   And you really were able to hyper focus on that.   Ron Kerns  6:45   Yeah, um, so piano playing turned into once I got into junior high and was able to get in the band. I went into that played a couple of different instruments in band That led to later on within leader in junior high in high school, attending a performing arts camp in the summer, and then through that, I toured Europe with an orchestra for a summer when I was 17. Wow. So all of that kind of all started from   all started back from know the piano thing.   Betsy Furler  7:30   Did you were you a good student academically or did you struggle in school?   Ron Kerns  7:35   I struggled terribly. Um, a lot of it had to do with the, a lot of it had to do with bullying. Just self esteem, self confidence, all that kind of stuff. Just going into survival mode, I guess is the way to put it   and then   There was so much that I just couldn't comprehend. But like everything else, there was no set attribution to why I couldn't. So all through school. It was, well, he just needs to focus more. He needs to find himself. He needs to just work harder. You know, he has the potential to do this and   Betsy Furler  8:34   write some but they were seeing you as a smart kid, but they couldn't figure out what avenue to reach you.   Ron Kerns  8:42   Right? Because nobody knew anything about any of this sector. Right, right. So I just   kind of muddle through and   past I guess   And so   there was a, I remember, yeah, so Um, so yeah, so that was basically school for me.   Betsy Furler  9:12   And did you go to college after high school?   Ron Kerns  9:16   After high school I did. I didn't go to college, I had a very difficult time trying to figure out exactly what it is I wanted to do.   And then   I didn't even really pick even art classes when I was in high school, or anything like that. My older sister in the meantime, we had been going to this small business school in northern Michigan.   And   it was kind of my   mindset that a,   I knew in the back of my mind that going to a much smaller school. Were probably be better for me which it was   and then   going to school where my sister was already   wouldn't hurt either.   So I kind of focused it on Northwood University, which is a school in Midland, Michigan. And I looked at their offerings, and I saw the advertising marketing program. And I thought, Boy, that sounds like something that could be interested in. So and I realized that they were going to have a day for potential students in that program. So we went up there in and   then I was so   it was just seemed like to be a really good fit for what I wanted to do. And So I went there and did find it was   from there by the chairman of the apartment   was a huge factor in me doing what I do today. He hit his background, because that played a big part of his background was in the 50s 60s and into early 70s. Working with being working when advertising for Ford and Lincoln mercury.   He was a major.   He was the he was the creative director for when the Ford Mustang first was introduced. Oh, wow. And other other monumental advertising campaigns and such over the years through that time period. So When he would come to class, he would bring in all of these old big boards and storyboards of all of these campaigns that he worked on when he was in the business. And using that as an illustration for what he was teaching that day or whatever. And so one day, he sat me down and he said, Have you ever thought about going to art school? No, I've never had an art class in my life. And he goes in and he showed me all the stuff that I had done as projects in his classes and said, you really should think about it. So um, I did and, and after getting my advertising marketing degree there, I went to art school in Cincinnati, and did very well there. And then it's through that I earned an internship with Cambodia. Well, Detroit. They were the Advertising Agency at the time for Chevrolet. And so, especially with that with once I earned the internship there. I just did that really solidified that, wow, I'm, I'm where I want to be.   Betsy Furler  13:19   That's amazing. And it kind of shows that there can be one person in our life that we run across that can have such a large impact. You know, obviously he saw that talent in you and was able to communicate it to you know, you Yeah, really? That that was she was so pivotal in your life and sounds like Yeah, definitely. Um, so how did you finally get diagnosed? what led up to the diagnosis?   Ron Kerns  13:52   That's it. That's quite an interesting story. I've been interviewed about that before because it's such an odd story. Before I began to suspect that I was that I was autistic, I would have never have guessed. Um, anyway, so it was around 2011 when I was watching the show parenthood on NBC, huh? And we watched from know when Elizabeth recently aired from the very first episode. I was familiar with a movie that had come out us before, so I thought it'd be a good something nice to watch. So, um, as the episodes went on long, and there was that kid max who eventually got diagnosed on the show. I was just sitting there watching and watching and going, man.   He was   thinking, he is a lot like I was when I was a kid. Uh huh. And parent teacher conferences his parents would have won over that whole Same thing with not having Well, he's got so much potential for he just used to focus on the road. And then having all that same conversations, it was just like no.   mean it was like me being on the show.   And so one just just one night. I was like, Okay, that's it. So I was just sitting on the, on the couch, I grabbed my laptop and I was sitting there watching show I started Googling, like, undiagnosed autism, adult saroo, something like that. And as soon as I hit return, it just, that's just when the light bulb went off. And I started seeing what was out there about this and starting to reading the list of You just might be artistic F and then you have the list of different characteristics or traits. And it was like, Oh, my goodness.   And   I'm,   Betsy Furler  16:24   well, that's really interesting.   Ron Kerns  16:27   So while doing the googling, I came across a title of a book.   The book is,   which I recommend everybody by the way, it's a book called pretending to be normal, written by Leann holiday Willie, and she was also diagnosed later in life and like in her mid 30s. Mm hmm. And, but when I saw that when I saw just the name of the book, pretending to be normal. was like, that's me. Cuz especially in the workplace, it just always feeling out of place, like an intruder, and all that stuff. I always just, and I never really could put my finger on it. But when I stopped pretending to be normal, I was like, that's it.   And, and so I just felt like that's what you've been   Betsy Furler  17:27   doing your whole life.   Ron Kerns  17:29   Exactly. And so, so and so with that.   I just dug in and got more and more and then in 2014 a couple years later, it came to a point to where I was pretty much self diagnosed at the time. And I just knew that in order to get any kind of support services, that kind of thing, you know, I needed an official diagnosis   because at the time I was   without a job.   I has   my throughout my career while I've done some pretty cool stuff and have worked with some great clients and done some great projects. My career has also been huge difficulties landing a job when I needed to get one. The past decade 2010 to 2020 I was unemployed without a full time job for seven of those 10 years. Wow. I'm thankfully doing what I do, I can I was able to kind of scrape by doing freelance work. And   so   it says that   was getting them from a diagnosis got me in This with this nonprofit that was in Dallas that helps people with autism and other similar things, you know, help provide some assistance with no landing shops or work. So   Betsy Furler  19:15   yeah, that's a great point. I, I, I'm really passionate about workplace accommodations and understanding in the workplace about diversity. But it's a really great point because I often say to parents, yes, you need to get this diagnosis for your child, if nothing else, but for the services. But I, you know, we don't think about that as an adult, that there are still services out there that you can access but only if you have   Ron Kerns  19:42   the diagnosis. Yeah. And unfortunately, for adults, they're very, very hard to find because everything is geared towards children. I even I even had a hard time finding a provider that would do an assessment or evaluation for me Because I was an adult   Betsy Furler  20:03   Yeah, and not about that area and that was probably expensive as well.   Ron Kerns  20:09   Um, I got lucky on that, um, during this entire time of struggling to find a job and knowing that was self diagnosed,   I got a   wreck. I get somebody I know through one of my facebook group artistic Facebook groups messaged me one day and she said, Here this, this place might be able to help you out with the whole job thing. And it was a agency for the state of Texas called Texas Department of the system and Rehabilitative Services and our health, those with disabilities and such to find appropriate work. So I said oh, well that could they could possibly help. So I made it, I made a appointment with the person there at the office, which wasn't too terribly far away from home. And I went there, and and then she started asking me about my diagnosis as well I don't have one yet. And then she proceeded, explain that you're having a diagnosis is necessary because to be eligible, so you can determine eligibility for services. And then she said, because you came to us seeking services, will give you a list of providers, and we will provide you with that assessment to determine whether or not you're eligible, which means getting the diagnosis, right. So um,   I just got lucky with that and I'm   in so I Just the assessment and it was all taken care of by that state agency.   Betsy Furler  22:07   And now for people who are listening and might be in the state of Texas, it's now called the Texas Workforce Commission. They change their name a few years ago. So   Ron Kerns  22:16   yeah, I remember when they did that. Yeah, they kind of melded together with the Workforce Commission. Yes.   Betsy Furler  22:21   Yeah. Yeah. So well, that's the I hadn't even thought about that as an option for people that thank you for bringing that up. That is helpful. So once you got the diagnosis, how did that change your life?   Ron Kerns  22:36   Everything all of a sudden made sense.   Yeah, it was just it was just so much. It's almost like overwhelming for a while. Even looking back at, you know, being autistic, one of the things one trait is being able to vividly remember Member finnstrom had many many, many, many years ago, to me, our youngest age and and just thinking back at all these little different   situations.   And then now I know why or how I did that or this or whatever. And now it just like just makes so much more sense. It's it's almost indescribable   Betsy Furler  23:34   and I think one thing that's so remarkable is that a lot of people think that people who are autistic don't have much self insight. And you diagnosed yourself on by by being able to look inside yourself and see your traits and other people. I think it's a I you know, I think it kind of breaks the surface. Yeah, type of what it's like to be autistic.   Ron Kerns  24:03   Actually, it's work. It's quite common really for people for autistic people to be introspective, because   Betsy Furler  24:10   i i agree. I think they I think it is. But I think it's a stereotype that Yeah, you're not that people with autism are not introspective. from working with lots of people who are autistic over the years, I have found it to be totally the opposite, like, so it makes sense to me that you would be able to do that.   Ron Kerns  24:33   Right? Because right now, amen. It's quite, it's becoming more and more common for like adults like me to finally get that diagnosis. And probably one of the more common ways that adults are realizing that Ooh, maybe I should go get assessed or evaluated is they first have a child who is diagnosed Once or child gets diagnosed, they're like, Man, that child's always been just like me. I wonder you know if they have the same traits and difficulties or problems and and so once the kids diagnosed it's not easy stuff to, to say a person No. More and more. It's becoming more widely believed that autism itself is genetic. I for instance, I can I even know my father passed away in 2011 before I was diagnosed, I can almost guarantee you that if he would have gotten us assessed somewhere along the way, he would have been diagnosed. Right? Right. Just knowing how that all happened and all of that kind of stuff.   Betsy Furler  25:56   How do you think that your autism allows you to be successful in what you're doing   Ron Kerns  26:06   can sometimes be a tough one because especially with all my job in career difficulties with having a job and retaining the job, it's can be very hard to find that what's positive about a Geass? so often I see the negative.   Betsy Furler  26:34   Right, right.   Ron Kerns  26:36   And then a few years after I was diagnosed, I saw the movie   saw the movie.   Thinking in pictures.   The story about Temple Grandin. Yes. And that just blew my mind. It was like that's a that's another So, I've always done that, but never realized how or why. And so   that ties in   perfectly with me being a graphic designer, I think in pictures,   Betsy Furler  27:16   right. So that makes that job, your career, the perfect career free for your brain. And you kind of accidentally happened upon it. The   Ron Kerns  27:30   the difficulty lies in   being in the marketing, corporate communications field. So much of it is   personality driven,   Betsy Furler  27:49   right, relationship and all of that's   Ron Kerns  27:54   Miss so that's what's really been the hindrance more than anything. great example of that is, you know how I was, before I got this job at the university. I was without a full time job for five years. And so last my last full time job in 2013 1313. And then   anyway, so it was during that time when I was   out and I was constantly getting interviewed, it wasn't like I had a terrible habit, bad resume and I was constantly getting new people said that it was in the interviewing process.   It was the interview and that would always be the barrier.   And,   but   I was also from the freelancing. I did the I did an annual report for an organization in Baltimore called abilities network in 2014 2015 From like that, and I did an annual report for the Arctic, North Texas, and about the same time, maybe a little bit after. So here I was, I was designing and creating these annual reports for these large organizations. And these are projects that it would typically be done by a large team of designers with the nice, top design firms. And I was doing them all on my own. highly acclaimed, I was winning awards, you name it. And yet I was still having difficulty in finding a job.   And that was the frustrating part of it.   I knew I could do the work, but it was just getting past it in the whole interviewing thing was a massive hurdle. So in 2004, so 2016 comes around, I had a couple of interviews that were really should have been a slam dunk.   My one of my previous jobs was with   one of my previous jobs was with a   multinational veterinary pharmaceutical company.   I was the art director and graphic designer for the entire consumer brands division, I was a sole designer. So all of the packaging, point of purchase displays, advertising marketing, you name it was all done by me. And so all of my work was seen and put within Petco and PetSmart all over the country. And, um, and so then that job ended in 2009. But then, when I was in sometime in early 2016,   I was able to interview for a job with a   local chain in Dallas, a chain of veterinary clinics, who also had their own private label branded products that they would sell within their clinics. So it would be marketing the clinics and and the packaging and all of this all of the stuff for the products they had. And I was like, How can I not get this?   Right now that's just what you've been doing basically.   And I didn't get it. And I got some very good sets the flimsiest flimsiest excuses to why they chose somebody else. And that's what pretty much and so I was unemployed for almost five years at the time. We were getting close to getting foreclosed on our house. And in addition to that, my My wife's dad who was living who had lived in northern Arkansas for many years. At that time. His wife had passed away. And so he was up here all by himself. We were several, we were 810 hour drive away. And so she was certainly like, oh, wouldn't it be nice if we could up there be up near my dad, all that kind of stuff. And we'd always love the area. And I thought, well, maybe once I retire, we can move up here because there's really no jobs for somebody like me around here. Uh huh. But once those job opportunities just kind of continued coming and going away and I, we came to the conclusion, especially with the foreclosure house. It was like, let's just get out of here. I'm like, I'm done. got going. So I'm We sold the house. Thankfully, we avoid foreclosure and the market Dallas was just going crazy. So we we did quite well on the house in the long run. And so I did be opposite of what you would think instead of staying in an area where there's countless jobs, I came to an area where there's a mere handful of jobs. And so I was doing the tons of freelancing at the time so I figured hey, I could get by a few minutes and we could while just working from here at the office phone and, and doing what I do. So for two for two years, that's what I did. I just worked from home, doing my work for my clients from wherever in the world they were. And that worked just fine. And and then I saw on an on host one day for the job. at Missouri State, it was so perfect. That was perfect job. So my whole mindset was what   I knew would eventually happen was   how many other people could their candidates could they have possibly been have had my background experience applying for this job. We live in this extremely remote and rural area. Right, right. And   so I go to the interview   and it's a panel interview about six or seven people. And one of the people read this statement about how the university values, diversity, inclusion, and, and all of that kind of stuff. So I thought, Okay, that sounds great. And then came to the point where I showed him my portfolio and they were raving about my portfolio and the stuff I was showing enough work I've done in the past. And so then then it came to strengths and weaknesses, asked me about my strengths and weaknesses. And so that's what I had a pretty good idea that they would be perfectly fine with it. So I said, well, the weaknesses that goes along with   me learning I was autistic just a few years ago. And   it kind of went into my strengths and weaknesses, as far as you know, being a graphic designer, that sort of thing. So that was one of the few times I know. That's always a big conundrum for people who are on the spectrum, when the right is   Betsy Furler  35:57   whether you disclose your Yeah, quote unquote disability or not just   Ron Kerns  36:03   the disposer you to try to fake it.   Betsy Furler  36:05   right all right.   Ron Kerns  36:07   It was at that point to where I felt comfortable enough. I knew that of course, I knew from the get go like this is a major university they almost certainly are going to be understanding and even somewhat appreciate the fact that I've accomplished what I what I've done and being artistic. Mm hmm. And and so then that's what happened and, and I got the job.   Betsy Furler  36:38   That's amazing. I think that I think disclosing your condition was absolutely the right thing to do. proud that probably got you the job because then they realized   Ron Kerns  36:51   that   Betsy Furler  36:52   you know, the things about the interview that maybe you're the things that you do or say during an interview that maybe wouldn't get you the job in the past. They're like, Ah, that's why his brain works in this way. And he gave us the interview, clearly and then and then ended up with a job that is a great fit for you.   Ron Kerns  37:17   Yeah. And a lot of it was just having that feel for the people that were there. No. Had a good feeling that Okay, there. It's going to be okay to mention it. And, you know, it just, it's, it's no, so whenever somebody brings it up is like, it just depends. Yeah, because I can think of other times in the other jobs I've had to where I would mention it. So I'm on my first. So after I got the notification that just you have the job. I contacted my caseworker with the agency in Dallas who is a, it's a organization called lunch ability. And they're in Dallas. And they're now merged with another organization called my possibilities. And they help people just like me find appropriate jobs and work. And so I called my caseworker. And of course, she was excited and very thrilled that I finally landed the job. And so we talked through the one thing that we've always wanted to talk through was, okay, I have the job now. And, you know, making sure that no one can I had everything, all my ducks in a row for that first day, week, month, because how important it is to kind of get it off to a good start. And so we were able to talk through all of that. And so then on my first day or so, I'm kind of set my manager down and Well, as you know, I'm autistic. And I said I and I explained to her that I really didn't need any really accommodations really a whole lot. But I gave her a list of things to keep in mind. For thankfully, I do have my own office with the door. So I said no, quite often, I'll have the door closed, depending on what's going on elsewhere in the area there. I try to keep it open. My lights, my fluorescent lights are always off all the time. She even bought me on this small little desk area. Because I will I think for the huge I have a huge massive window on one side of the office. That's plenty of daylight and most times, but I'm really I'm really cloudy days. I have a little desperate that you got me help with light. That's not nearly as bright as those big fluorescent things. Right? Right. I'm just told her my difficulties with the whole executive functioning thing with, you know, organizing, organizing and prioritizing projects and work. And that can sometimes have   20 projects in varying degrees   of   in the queue   20 years old projects and varying degrees of completion or, and that sort of thing. And so she's always been very helpful with never   hesitated to   help in any way when I've come to her and say, again, we talked about this from insert, make sure you know that. I'm working on the right projects at the right time for this because I have a lot going on at the moment, or whatever. And so just share her being very, extremely Understanding and patient with me is just been, it's been a huge   Betsy Furler  41:06   well, and that sounds like you have there, you have some accommodations at work, but they're not expensive or big deal type of accommodations. They're things that make your life so much easier and allow you to do your best work. But it also wasn't super expensive for the university to put into place. And it probably actually that kind of back and forth on deadlines and, you know, possibly, you know, asking her to break down tasks or, you know, kind of getting her feedback on that. That's great communication for anybody.   Ron Kerns  41:47   Right. And so, then some of it goes back to learning. Things are learning difficulties now that I know I'm watching Stick. For instance, before I was artistic, I never would have never thought to get your plugs for when I'm in a crowded restaurant, I just grin and bear that. And then and then been an artistic adult Facebook group. People mentioned here places. And I was like, wow, that could actually be a really cool idea. Now I have several sets that I carry with me. So I'm never without a pair. Because I've never know when and where I'm going to be. And and it's like, well, why haven't I thought of this before?   Betsy Furler  42:38   inexpensive things that you can do and easy to do and make the world a difference. Right. Right. Right. And so   Ron Kerns  42:45   then with the accommodations, I'm a lot of I've read a lot lately about standup desks,   dusted can put on your desk and then raise up to where you can stand in kind of Move around a bit more and all that. And so that's what I have. So I talked with my manager about that. And so what is being ordered for me right now?   That's awesome.   To get one of those, so that would that is I think that will be helpful.   Betsy Furler  43:19   Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. I'm so glad you found that job and you made that leap of faith to move from Dallas to rural Arkansas and it sounds like that was just the best move you could have made.   Ron Kerns  43:35   One thing I just thought of about the move to Arkansas was after I got diagnosed   sometime or along the way I started   having meltdowns and panic attacks like while driving and traffic. Safety imagine the freeways and highways and roads in Dallas are Always very congested. just crazy as crazy as can be.   Yeah, and   the meltdowns and all of that we're amplifying. And that was something that was an eye. I gave up driving for the last couple years we were there as much as I could think he lived fairly close to the train station where I could take the train into downtown or wherever I needed to go. And that was another factor in the moving here was she I wonder how it would be if we moved out of this sensory overload of the city and out there to where it's calmer and the traffic is almost non existent. Right little thing. And so I'm just with In a few months, my wife and I had the conversations like the changes almost instant.   I'm just the change of environment.   It was just amazing.   Betsy Furler  45:13   That Yeah, that's a good point. I was actually thinking about that for myself the other day cuz I live in Houston, Texas, and traffic is terrible. And it's like, you know, I, I wonder, you know what it would be like, if we didn't have to have this traffic, we didn't have to be on traffic all the time. And I think we will eventually move out someplace that is not as bad because I think we're all of our brains. It's not good. You know? So that's, yeah, that but that is if if sensory overload is a problem for you, traffic is and just the big city bustle. That's a lot of that's a lot of sensory information you're having to process Maybe not for any good reason.   Ron Kerns  46:03   Yeah, again, that's just something that has.   Because there's a there's a thing called it's autism fatigue, I think is a word for it. And so that was something that started popping up. And so basically the idea that I was handling all of that for years,   fairly well.   But having the mask and camouflaging Bailey all the time constantly, constantly becomes the point when you come to a certain age when you just the mask starts slipping and you just can't have it on as much all the time. Uh huh. And, and so that is what I really think kind of was happening. Just started losing the ability to tolerate a That all the time because it just can't keep the mask on all the time as much because it's because as you get older, it becomes more exhausting more effort to do that day in and day out.   Betsy Furler  47:13   Right and then you're taking your energy that you could be using at work and with your family and all of that. You're having to use that energy to try to to put the keep that mask on for the with the sensory stimulation. Well that I'm I am so glad you moved to Arkansas. I think that was such a great I think that was such a great thing. And I I loved hearing your story and your your later in life life diagnosis. I think this interview is going to help so many people that are listening to my show, and how can people get in touch with you if they want to learn more about you.   Ron Kerns  47:58   I'm pretty much everywhere. In Social media. Ron turns Kieran s on Facebook. They can go to my website, studio Kearns that. I'm, I'm very active on LinkedIn. You can find me there round Ronald.   Ronald Kearns. Um   or just send me an email at Ron at Studio Kearns calm.   Betsy Furler  48:31   Awesome. I will put all of that in my show notes and the book suggestion because I think that I'm going to I haven't ever read that book either. I'm gonna I'm gonna read it. I'll probably listen to it on Audible, but I   Ron Kerns  48:44   pretended to be normal. Yeah, definitely. Another book that's also along the same premise that I found it. really helpful was john elder Robison, his book   Look me in the eye.   Betsy Furler  49:03   Yes, yes, that's a good one.   Ron Kerns  49:07   Both of those help was so helpful to me because, you know, both were on the same premise about this is how my life was. And then I found that later in life I was like   Betsy Furler  49:18   I will say, well, I'll put both of those in the show notes. And thank you so much for joining me today. You were a wonderful interview and great information for my for my audience.   Ron Kerns  49:34   Thanks for having me.   Betsy Furler  49:35   Yes, have a great day. You too and audience Thank you for listening and please subscribe to the show. You can also follow me on social media at Betsy Furler f you are le er or for all abilities.  

Previously on…  Cynthia talked shit to someone about Nene, and that person recorded it.  Porsha and Dennis are trying to work things out.  The Kenya proposal ruining thing.  Nene shows up on the trip.  ACT ONE Picking back up from the proposal conversation. I don’t understand what Kenya’s intention was. There is no way she didn’t choose to try to create a moment over her friendship with Cynthia. Porsha thinks it was beautiful.  Ok… we need to talk about this proposal. It was a mess. I don’t want you to think I’m shitting all over Cynthia’s happiness but… what was that?! First he pretends he’s going to propose, then says nevermind, then the kids hand him a bottle, that bottle has a question mark scotch taped to it, then the girls bring together a mirror that’s in pieces… no. Additionally, if it’s the opening of her wine cellar, let that be about her boring wine cellar and not about you proposing. Also don’t propose in front of other people, that’s weird…  **funny** ok then tanya says ‘i’m SOARRY i missed it.’ I feel like I JUST learned that Tanya is canadian and now she’s playing up the accent.  **funny** then porsha goes oh right you weren’t there!!! Which is so sad but true… Tanya is really growing on me but she’s this goody two shoes high energy sign my yearbook type girl that most people don’t notice.  Nene says me not being there felt weird, but that’s out of my control, I wish it was different.  Kenya reminds us she’s the only one who is really on decent terms with Nene right now.  KING AND QUEEN SHOWCASE This showcase is very cool, and so unexpected for Toronto! The whole cast seems into it too which is nice to see.  They check into the hotel. Tanya says ‘go OOT’ for the day. I swear she’s just doing this now!  Nene, Marlo, Kandi, and Yoonna chat in the hotel room. They talk about Kenya ruining the moment for Cynthia. Nene asks, does she know she ruined Marlo’s moment? All of this leads to the recording question. None of the women know, Nene chews her chips obnoxiously making horrible faces. That’s all she does.  Nene calls Yovanna something like..shojanna?? And then Marlo corrects her Shavonna. Not her name… also whyyy is she here on this trip?!  Tanya shows up.  Ok now they start talking about HOW did nene’s letter to cynthia make it B. Scott. I forgot about this! Nene claims that she has no relationship with B Scott and would never hand over the letter. The other mystery this season is how did the card get to the blog?? All Nene knows is that Cynthia said her card went missing for a period of time. Hmmm…!  Cynthia calls the hot dog king on the phone. Kandy calls Todd in black lips which is where…  Tanya: “Thank god I ate arugula for a week. Now I can try these costumes on!”  COSTUME TRIALS I have to say I like how excited the cast is about all this because when they arrived, remember Tanya talked to them all in the lobby and they all looked over it already.  Eva says she wont be there because she has a charity event. Boooo why are you here thennn. Don’t pull a denise now missing out on main events, because that’s what’s getting her in trouble on RHOBH.  Cynthia reminds us that the snake is probably in this room. Why does this story feel like a mislead? Normally when things go on for this long it’s because there is no real answer. We would have heard it by now.  Nene says she has to leave in the morning because she’s hosting a comedy show in the morning. Nene calls Eva over to talk to her. I love how Nene beckons Eva over, the pregnant lady, when she could walk over to herself. But of course Eva is like SURE!! And rushes over.  ACT TWO Nene wants to own her part in things, as everyone stands around and listens. Eva says they were building something good, and Eva felt betrayed that Nene had a whole convo with her while she had a mic on. And then she was upset Nene didn’t own up to it at the reunion. Oh I forgot all this stuff… yeah that’s really shitty of Nene.  Nene tells us she came to canada because she used to have a sisterhood with these girls. Iiii don’t buy it for a minute. She feels excluded and feels obligated to hash it out. This doesn’t feel genuine.  The best part is all these women talk a big game about Nene but everyone wants to get closer to her so they’ll accept anything she gives them.  THE CN TOWER Tanya wants to strap everyone to the side of a tower or something?  So while they wait to go up, they talk about Nene and Eva making up but in separate groups. Kenya asks Eva if it was sincere, Eva said she couldn’ tell because she had sunglasses on. Kenya thinks Nene has no choice because she’s alone on an island. Which is so true. I love this checklist of people she has made up with.  Nene and Eva stay back while everyone else suits up. I still don’t understand what they’re doing so let’s see…  ACT THREE The women walk out onto the tower. It is hiiiigh. Seeing Cynthia panic is kind of funny. “I don’t like thissssss….” Are they going to jump??  The woman who is leading this expedition is SO over the top but also sounds exactly like Tanya…  Back inside Eva asks Nene if she’s going to have conversations with anyone else. Nene says she’s open to having some sort of conversation with Porsha. Her issue was she was a big sister to Porsha but never got that energy back. Then the closet thing happened, Nene hate texted Porsha, Porsha put it on social media. Nene is pissed about that.  Nene is wrong for this… it’s totally fair game. Nene then says that porsha was fat before she got pregnant so she wasn’t fat shaming her. Nene is being such an asshole. She’s reminding me a lot of Teresa. Super arrogant and doubling down.  In this moment i I realize fully that Nene really has no intention of pursuing a long term friendship with Eva. If she was really on this kick of wanting to do better and get back in with the circle, she wouldn’t double down on calling Porsha fat. That’s some high school shit.  ACT FOUR In the bus, they tell Yovanna she needs nair. This is literally why she is on this trip. Apparently when she put on her bikini they saw she was hairy. Porsha: It’s ok that’s why it goes tehre!!  Porsha is getting her make up done and there’s a knock, she’s got flowers. GUYS FLOWERS ON VACATION IS THE STUPIDEST THING EVER!! I say this every show!! You just have to leave them behind in the next day or two!!  Ugh dennis had a note with it that said dog gone it, I’m sorry. Porsha tells her sister that he’s threatened to pull up in canada.  Meanwhile cutting to Tanya greeting her fiance. ...I thought she was married? I’ve never seen this guy before.  Her fiance shows up and Dennis walks in with him. I kind of love Tanya’s reaction. She collapses to the ground and says “that’s the spiiirittttt.’  Ugh dennis sits down and pulls the ring OUT OF HIS HOODIE POCKET. NO. So Tanya is really really excited about these to get back together. Like Married to medicine levels, getting too involved in each other’s relationship levels…  ACT FIVE So they all get in a bus and Kenya does an impression of Tanya that is…. Spot on. Nene refuses to laugh. Nene is also wearing silk which I think is going to get super wrinkled on the bus.  Porsha does an impression of Cynthia. Wow impersonations are really doing the rounds on these shows.  Eva does an impression of Yovanna but the bus is moving! Sit down Eva!!  Yovanna’s impression of porsha and everyone’s reaction… i almost spit out my water. Porsha: so all i do is ask for chicken all the time? Yovanna: you ask for food all the time.  So they enter the party and porsha says…  Amazing. Then Tanya’s fiance comes, everyone cheers, and Porsha, Kenya, and Kandi split off to get a drink. Porsha asks the bartender…  CLIP The three start talking about the recording. Porsha: have we cancelled out yovanne? Does anyone know her name?!  They still have their eyes set on Yovanna, so they’re going to try to get her to crack.  ACT SIX I just want to point out that… they could have figured this out by now. I guess Cynthia has talked so much crap to so many people that she can’t even remember who she could have possibly said it to. Also why are we so sure it was someone in this immediate group?  The confront Yovanna and she immediately knows something is up.  Back at teh table, Cynthia thanks Nene for the letter. This felt awkward… and not enough words… and then Nene referencing blocking Cynthia after Cynthia blocked her first. There feels like there is no affection here.  Back at the bar… Yovanna says there is a lot of foo foo going on. Everyone is talking about being real but no one is. Porsha has no time for this girl but she’s humoring her. Porsha asks Yovanna if she was the one who did the recording, Yovanna says no, but it’s someone in the circle, and she won’t speak on who it is. Porsha tells Yovanna she’s fake for not saying something.  I guess I missed that this was Tanya’s entire family and friends at this party. Why haven’t we seen any of them?  EWWW speaking of snakes!! Dennis shows up worming his way through the crowd. Wowww that was slapped together! He walks up, they hug, he proposes! Wow that caught me by surprise.  Next week we have carnivale finally, and then a huge blow out where it looks like once again nene gets physical with someone and ends up charging down a hall. Watch your backs cameramen!!  Please don’t forget to subscribe and leave a rating, it really helps me out. That’s all I got for tonight… talk soon! 

In this episode of the Church Planting Podcast Clint Clifton and Josh Turansky get in a call to talk about new churches during Christmas. If you would like to know more about Clint Clifton and Josh Turansky you can go to the links below.Josh’s ChurchClint’s ChurchTranscriptALBERT: This is the Church Planting Podcast. Thank you for tuning in.ALBERT: Every week we sit down with leaders who are shaping church planting efforts. ALBERT: Here’s your host, Josh Turansky and Clint Clifton.JOSH TURANSKY: Hey, welcome to the church planting podcast. My name is Josh Turansky and I am joined by Clint Clifton. Clint. CLINT CLIFTON: Yes, what’s up Josh?JOSH TURANSKY: It’s good to hear your voice.CLINT CLIFTON: Oh man.JOSH TURANSKY: Yes. We’re not in the same room but we’re streaming remotely to one another and man, I can’t wait to get into this episode.CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah, this is fun. This was actually your idea, Josh. JOSH TURANSKY: Was it? Wow. I appreciate the credit.CLINT CLIFTON: I think it was. Yeah. We were talking about it and you said, “Let’s do a Christmas episode…help prepare people for Christmas.”JOSH TURANSKY: Well, I am enthusiastic for it. I… Just a little bit of talking we were doing before we started doing our recording. I love this. I love… One of my favorite parts about church planting is the strategy and thinking through what’s going to work and just trying new stuff; and a lot of stuff doesn’t. But…CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah, tons of stuff doesn’t work; way more doesn’t work than does work. That’s the dirty secret of church planting by the way, if you’ve not yet planted… You’ll try… For every ten things you’ll try, one of them will sort of work. JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah.CLINT CLIFTON: And you’ll have to improve it a whole lot in order to get it to work good.JOSH TURANSKY: Can I actually share… Can we start off with me sharing what didn’t work for Christmas last year for me? CLINT CLIFTON: Sure, do that.JOSH TURANSKY: Okay. So, we had some few people in the church who wanted to do Christmas caroling. And so we scheduled it, we advertised it, because I live in a community that is ex-catholic… you’ve got working professionals, you’ve got people that really like kind of like a high church.. you have a large number of people that still are attracted to more of a liturgical service. So I thought okay, let’s do something traditional, caroling, hot chocolate, and I put it out there on Facebook, I ran some ads as an event, and we had a pretty good response. But really, nobody outside of our church showed up except for one family that was invited by somebody else on our church. We had a great time, we went around, there was about 15 of us knocking on doors, caroling. We were well received… A couple of like weird comments of people like, “Oh, you know, you’re the caroling group.” So, we get done, I go clean out the hot chocolate mess and we’re driving home. So, we live in a dense, urban environment. I live 5 blocks from our outreach centre where everything started and ended. And the whole street, while I’m trying to drive home, the whole street is closed. And there’s like 600 carolers out about an hour after we had gone out from the Polish club and I guess it’s an annual event. And I told my team, my interns, like I broke my number 1 rule which is like don’t try to re-invent something else in the community that already exists, is already awesome, that we could’ve joined. So…CLINT CLIFTON: You were totally upstaged by the Polish people.JOSH TURANSKY: It was brutal. It was brutal. And I’m still embarrassed that I made that mistake a year later.CLINT CLIFTON: Well, that’s funny. Well, Josh are you one of those guys that’s like really into Christmas? You’re kind of obnoxious about it? Or are you the dad that’s like overzealous about Christmas?JOSH TURANSKY: I enjoy Christmastime a lot. It’s a fun season. I’m sad when it’s over. But I’m also a very goal-oriented person in my life so. It seems like this season just passes by rather quickly. I don’t get to enjoy it as much as I’d like.CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah.JOSH TURANSKY: How about you?CLINT CLIFTON: Well no, I actually… I was just remembering that I got the reputation early on in our church plant. My… I had a… We had a member who would call me the “ a pastor that ignored all the holidays”. It was as if I didn’t acknowledge that holidays happened. Yeah so, they were always trying to get me to you know like, “Oh it’s veteran’s day, it’s mother’s day, you know let’s do something special.”JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah.CLINT CLIFTON: And I…my inclination was just to trudge through on the you know whatever passage working through… whatever passage we were working through.JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah, I… I know I mean I think that’s kind of how I am too. Very rarely will I get off… Get out of the text that we’re in and do something for… maybe just for Christmas.CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah.JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah. So, what are some strategic things that we can give to church planters in this arena? I mean, specially if you don’t come from much of a church… a strong church background or even if you do, man. You can… there’s… You could all kinds of things are going on the church for holidays. But church planting is very strategic, we’re trying out new things. What can we impart here as wisdom? CLINT CLIFTON: Well there’s a couple things that come to might right off the bat and we actually… A little bit later in the episode, we’re going to listen to a little bit of an audio clip about… from one church planter about what he’s planning to do this Christmas and what he’s done over the last couple of years that have helped. And he touches on some like philosophical ideas, a little bit about how best to leverage a season like that. So, hopefully that’ll be a good conversation starter for us. But, one thing that comes to mind when I’m thinking about church planting and Christmas time is you know, Christmas eve services, those are the things that most churches are doing and they generally work pretty good in terms of people showing up. They give you a genuine opportunity to express the message of the gospel, you get to preach the bible. There’s lots of good things that happen on Christmas eve services. But I always want to say to church planters that maybe one of the only positive things I did in the first couple of years of church planting was I decided not the press the gas on Christmas eve services in our church plant. And that the reason I didn’t do that is because my wife and my family… It was a necessary decision I had to make. I’m either gonna spend Christmas eve and Christmas with my wife and family and be focused on them or I’m going to put all of my energy into getting a Christmas eve service pulled off and getting everybody in my church, who’s already maxed out from me pushing them hard all year long, to spend this one really special holiday that they have with their family, helping me pull off a great outreach in my community. So I think the first thing that I want to say is if you’re a church planter, unless you have the bandwidth for this, even though it is a great opportunity, the best thing you can do for your ministry and for your family is to just decide not to do anything for Christmas for the first few years until you have the bandwidth to do it. So, if you need permission here it is: Until you have the bandwidth, don’t do anything for Christmas in your church plant. JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah. Yeah and you’re family… I mean that’s something your wife and your kids will probably be forever grateful for. Specially if church pl… Specially if ministry’s a new thing for your family, church planting is already such a violent thing for a family unit, and the holiday’s are cherished, you know? I know for some pastor’s wives it’s just like it’s sacred time so it’s like, “Oh no, here’s church planting wrecking another piece of what we’ve cherished as a family for years.” I’m sure there will be…CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah and unfortunately some church planters see, “Here’s my family wrecking another church planting opportunity, you know?” And, so there’s two ways to look at it and probably if you’re a church planter that’s really zealous about getting a gospel to your community, getting your church origin established, you’ve trained yourself to think like that; like I have to capitalize on every opportunity. And I’m just gonna tell you that this is is the one.. this is probably one, in our culture, in our setting, in our situation that you just need to relax on. Our church didn’t do a Christmas eve service the first few years, our sending church did one and we participated in our sending churches’ Christmas eve service for the first 5 or 6 years. So my family went to it, we attended it, we didn’t you know we didn’t play a role in the leadership of it but we just participated in it; and that was a really great decision. And by the time our church was ready to pull off our own Christmas eve service, we had a group of people in our church clamoring for it; “Hey, let’s do a Christmas eve service.” So it wasn’t like I was trying to drag everybody away from their Christmas tree and their eggnog in order to pull off a worship service. So…JOSH TURANSKY: Well, I think that that is such an important indicator of like your church may be ready, is when you have multiple people that are clamoring for it and your response to those people is like, “Will you… Would you be willing to help with it?” So if you’ve got people that are willing to carry the load and it’s not just another thing that’s going to fall on your kids or on your wife to pull off then you’re getting close to being able to do it. CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah. I think what you’re gonna see when we listen from to this little interview from church planter and as we talk about this a little bit is basically people fall on two sides of the philosophical spectrum on the outreach Christmas you know situation. Same thing with Easter, either you’ve got total you know what I would consider and think of is like gimmick laden you know silly miss to try to get people to participate, who are not very gospel-minded, you know secular minded people in your community, you’re appealing to their sense of family and fun and trying to get lost people even to engage in your churches’ thing that you’re doing; that’s one idea. And the other one is the one that you were kind of referencing in your community, which describe that a little bit better.. the sort of appeal to traditionalness. JOSH TURANSKY: Well I mean here in Maryland, Baltimore… Maryland is completely like a catholic city. So even though the attendance for the catholic church has declined, you still have an older crowd of people who are you know they’re attracted to a liturgical service some kind of traditional thing. And it’s a transient city too. So, many people have been uprooted from where they grew up. They feel detached in so many aspects of their life that the idea of doing some kind of traditional thing around the holidays or for a Christmas eve is just it appeals emotionally so much to felt need. So there would obviously be a crowd, I think it would be more of a minority crowd, that’s attracted to something really attractional or out of the box or an event. I mean we’ve got… for asking the city another aspect is that Baltimore isn’t a destination for Christmas time or for Easter time in that matter. It’s usually a time where people exodus the city. So, there’s a whole crowd that isn’t even around. The crowd that would’ve been attracted maybe by a gimmicky attractional type thing, they’ve left because around school break or their job in the financial sector is on break and their back in Nebraska or wherever they’re from.CLINT CLIFTON: Right. Yeah so that might be bullet point number 2. So, first big idea is make sure that your congregation’s really ready to do this and you’re totally not maxing out your family and your Christmas in order to pull this off; that would be number 1. Number 2 would be making sure that your community isn’t vacating the city at Christmas time. Now generally speaking, in the U.S. I think if you live in a suburban community, there’s a good chance that your community is gonna swell at Christmas time and if you live in urban area, it’s a good chance that it’s not… everybody’s going to be kind of rushing out to their homes into the suburbs. So, I know in my community… Our community swells at Christmas time. So we’re… It’s sort of hard not to see all the opportunities to capitalize on the Christmas spirit in our community and the receptivity to going to a worship service and the extra time that people have to spend with their families during that time. It’s hard not to want to capitalize on that. But I understand in some of the communities that’s very very different… yeah.JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah. I’d come to your neighborhood for Christmas. CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah and you can. And you can, Josh. So listen, here’s what we’re going to do right now. We’re going to take a pause for a second. We’re going to listen to Steve Gentry. Now Steve’s the pastor of Village Church in Midlothian near Richmond, Virginia. And Steve’s a good church planter, he’s planted a really solid church there and he’s gonna just kind of tell us what they do for Christmas in Christmas eve in their community and then we’ll come back and talk about that in a bit.CLINT CLIFTON: Have you ever had that experience of hearing a great idea and thinking, “Oh why couldn’t that have been my idea?” Well I had that experience recently when I ran across a company called Space Together. Now, Space Together was founded by a church planter and Space Together is to the church world what Airbnb is to your family. It lets you rent out your church space as easily as Airbnb lets you rent out your home. You can rent out a part of a building for a specific day and time or you can rent out the building in an ongoing way in a time where your facility is underutilized. And Space Together has this great technology that helps you take underutilized church space and create new opportunities for your congregation. Now, exclusively for church planting podcast listeners, Space Together is offering a $1 posting fee. You can post your space on Space Together for just $1 when you use the coupon code “planter”. And if you’re a church planter that needs space, go on Space Together and look at the places they’re offering and maybe you’ll find the perfect spot for your new church. You can learn more about Space Together at their website, spacetogether.com.CLINT CLIFTON: Steve Gentry tell me what you do to reach people at Christmas time.STEVE GENTRY: I think Christmas time is one of those things that a lot of people do, but they don’t think through were outreach is concerned. And we look at every season as to “How can we reach people who are not attending church at this given time?” And one thing that we started doing a few years ago is really looking at Christmas from a multi-tiered perspective. And we do three things. And I think we’ve started doing them pretty well. The first thing that we do is just based on a love that the church staff guys and gals simply have – we love Christmas lights. And everybody on my staff puts Christmas lights up on their house, and we came up with an idea a few years ago. “What if we did a big light display at our Church?” And so we do a, some people call it tacky, we just call it loving Christmas, we just do a huge light display…CLINT CLIFTON: Well it’s kinda like a Richmond thing isn’t it? Yeah. It’s kind of known…STEVE GENTRY: Oh yeah. The tacky lights are huge in Richmond. I mean like a couple of houses in our area have made national television because of their light displays. And we do the dancing lights. So, there’s a soundtrack going on behind it and the lights are moving to the music. And it’s a drive thru display. And we launch it every year with a showing of the movie elf on our property. So, if the weather’s good enough, which is always tricky at the beginning of December, if the weather’s good enough. We have a huge outdoor movie screening and we show the movie Elf. If it’s too cold we move it inside. But we show Elf, launch the Christmas lights and then for the next few weeks. I mean there are dozens of cars everyday that drive through our property to the extent where if I’m out in public and I’m talking to someone that has no connection to the church, no idea who I am, and I tell them “I’m a pastor.” “Ok where are you a pastor?” “Village Church.” “Oh, the Christmas lights church.” And I’ve had that happen multiple times and it builds a real rapport with the community.CLINT CLIFTON: All right. So, tell us how you bridge that to anything good or spiritual ‘cause elf and Christmas tend to…STEVE GENTRY: Oh yeah. The bridge is that at the end of the light display there’s an invite to our Christmas eve service. Last year we had four different services and a few years ago we just decided “Let’s not do anything traditional. If they’re doing it down the street let’s not do it.” And I had the idea of “What if I geared our Christmas eve service towards my kids?” No one wants to work Christmas eve. If you’re a pastor be cool with that. You don’t want to be there Christmas eve. You’re working. You’d rather be at home; you’d rather be at a Christmas party. And also, my kids probably rather I not be working on Christmas eve too. And I had that thought of ‘Man, if my kids would love our Christmas eve service, then all kids are going to love our Christmas eve service.’ So, we threw out everything that we would think was a boring element for our Christmas eve service, and we made it full of up town tempo, culturally-relevant songs. We show Christmas movie clips, Santa Claus comes out at the end. One of our worship leaders does a great job of Tom Petty impression. And so, we do at the end of the service we do a huge send off with It’s Christmas Time Again. And he does it in the best Tom Petty voice that he can do it. Santa Claus comes out, he’s given out candy canes, we do milk and cookies in the foyer after the service is over, I do it’s about 13-minute Gospel presentation right in the middle of it. And I always do it in an unexpected outfit. A few years ago, people started wearing Christmas suits that looked like tacky Christmas merch. And before it was as big as it was, we were special ordering these suits to come in, and I would always just show up on stage wearing one of these suits. It gets harder and harder every year to kind of throw people for a loop for what I’m gonna be wearing. But every year I fool ‘em. When they walk into the foyer, I’m dressed like I would be dressed every Sunday morning. And people were looking like me “Oh man I can’t believe you didn’t do it this year. I wish you had done it this year.” Then when I hit the stage, I’m wearing something wild and crazy and I share the Gospel and it’s awesome. Last year we kicked it up a notch and I actually wore a Christmas onesie to preach and…CLINT CLIFTON: That’s kicking it up a couple notch.STEVE GENTRY: They kicked it up a few notches but every year we just try to bring the Gospel to the people on our community in a new and relevant way that they’re unexpected. And our Christmas eve services are our biggest service of the year. We experience a bump of about 200 guests on Christmas eve. Many of them have not been to any other church service that entire year. And they come in and have a good time. The big thing for us, their kids are gonna have a good time. And everyone’s going to walk away knowing that Village Church believes that Christmas is about the redemption that they can have through the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ. And that’s why we do every bit of it. And we use Christmas as a huge outreach every year.CLINT CLIFTON: Ok cool. Thanks.STEVE GENTRY: Thanks.CLINT CLIFTON: Alright so uh, Steve, man he gave us a lot of bunch of ideas there. Well first of all I wanna say that Steve’s super creative in what he, the thought he’s put in what they do for Christmas is admirable. I think you know; I’ve been asking for the past couple of weeks, I’ve been asking church planters “Hey what do you guys do for Christmas? What do you think about doing for Christmas?” And I get a lot of blank stares. And it’s November. So that, that’s a little bit like worrisome. I don’t think pastors or church planters were thinking ahead about that at all. So, first of all, the fact that his thought through like he has, there’s a couple of things that you know, that he talked about and maybe like even the whole of what he talked about that I think you know a lot of church planters that I interact with would’ve been turned off by or would have said “Man, I’ll not ever do that in my ministry.” And he was basically sort of unashamedly , trying to make his service fun. He even said fun for his kids. He wanted to make a service that his staff, family, and his kids would want to come to. And so that meant things like playing modern video clips from movies like Elf and other things that are funny being as non-traditional as possible. And so, yeah that’s, he definitely was like on the side of things that his, “Let’s go after connecting with the person who’s not necessarily spiritual but they really value spending time with their family and having fun in Christmas time.”JOSH TURANSKY: And I think what’s good about that is you, you gotta decide who’s your, who’s the primary people that you’re serving through it. Like are you creating a service for you know, high church? Low church? Are you thinking of the people that normally you see every Sunday or are you minister the people in your community? So, and then you, you know, you double down on that. That’s what I appreciate about what was being said here. It’s word-determining. This is the strong direction we wanna go, we’re gonna be intentional with it. And yeah. CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah. He did double down on it. And I think that’s interesting to. That’s a good point you make right there. So, he’s not like a guy that I think of as like really gimmicking kind of out there in terms of his practices. He’s the guys that loves the bible. He teaches the bible verse by verse. He is a solid kind of exegetical bible teacher. He also, isn’t really a flashy guy himself. He’s kind of just the guy that his church grew not because of like tons of charisma but because he wakes up everyday and does the right thing. He evangelizes to his disciples, builds his community, build his staff, you know? He’s a really solid church planter. But his chosen like you said to double down on, he’s gone all in on “Let me just do whatever I can to provide you know, something that my community really wants to come to.” So, he’s sorta putting on the pragmatism of “What does my community want to get involved in for Christmas time?” and allowing his church or leading his church to meet that need and so…JOSH TURANSKY: Now do you think, do you generally think that the church planters should be looking into make the Christmas eve service an outreach or a church worship event? Like just generally speaking.CLINT CLIFTON: Well I think, you know thinking about Steve and his situation, he made a decision. The decision was, it’s gonna be an outreach program event. And the goal is to make a positive impression and get an opportunity to share the message of the Gospel with some unchurched non-Christian people on my community. Now, other churches make the decision to make Christmas as sort of sacred time of Jesus’ birth. A time for everybody to come and adore Him. No pun intended you know. To adore Christ, to cherish Christ, to celebrate His uh, His birth, uh, his incarnation. And I think the thing to say is that both of those options are valid. And you know, there’s a lot of temptation in Modern Evangelicalism to look across the bough at one thing and criticize if it’s not particularly your uh, approach. Uh, but the fact that Steve made a decision, he sort of doubled down on that approach means that he gets a chance to preach the Gospel and communicate the Gospel to probably 200 or 300 individuals. Every Christmas that you are on you may not get the opportunity to because we’re not doing that. So he’s not doing evil or wrong by going after that in the same way that you’re not doing something evil or wrong by having a sacred time with your congregation were you really , celebrate the incarnation. I think it’s important though to not try to hit both of those targets because you’re gonna do one of them pretty poorly if you try to hit them both.JOSH TURANSKY: Oh man, isn’t that true? If that’s really the case. Now in your own setting, at Pillar Church, what do you guys typically do for a Christmas eve service?CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah. We have, I would say ours is probably a targeted a bit more probably celebrating the incarnation, and we’re imagining that the people that are with us are primary believers. But we’re keeping in mind they’re the believers, the members of our church, we’re keeping in mind the fact that probably they’re gonna bring their family members with them that may not be as committed to the Gospel or committed to Christ or… So there’s that clear, always a clear call to the Gospel at out Christmas eve service. Another thing that we do that I think I would commit is that we really do put a focus on children in that Christmas ever service. We do a couple of things differently that we do normally in our worship services. Kids come up front. There’s this focused kid’s time. So, it’s maybe a central tenet or message of the Christian Gospel that’s presented in a way to communicate to the children. And the children are literally up-front listening to it in some creative way. But we’re imagining that those messages are going beyond them to the adults who are sitting behind them. And they’re hearing those messages too. So, it’s not gimmick in the sense that we’re like you know, putting lights on our suit. But it is kind of, you know, utilizing the fact that there are children there and that it’s a nostalgic time for children uh, to try to leverage that; to get the Gospel message even to the adults who are in attendance.JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah. Now I just imagine you dressed up as Baltazar as one of the three wisemen in the pageant every year.CLINT CLIFTON: No, we don’t do a pageant. No. I’ll say, if you haven’t realized this yet, when you do anything with kids in the suburbs. Anything with kids, your attendants like dramatically increases. So, I mean, literally on the day that we do parent-child dedication or a day where we have you know, a kid reading scripture; or , some kids doing something in the worship service; or even get a word in it someway, our attendance is like notably up by 10, 15, 20, 25% depending on how many kids we have on stage. So, just keep that in mind, those are, doing those things is a time when you often do get an audience with others.JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah. I’m glad you brought that up. I’ve seen churches were they’ll like you said, invite the kids up, read a Christmas story to the kids, or even have the message really speaking almost to the kids with the parents as almost the secondary audience. That really seems to resonate with adults. And it does bring in a lot of people.JOSH TURANSKY: So what else comes to mind when you’re thinking about Christmas other things church planters, you know… I feel like with what we’ve covered already, we’ve covered a lot in framing this up. Is there anything else? ‘Cause there’s the settings that different guys are in as they’re planting is very different. There’re different stages. Is there anything else strategically that guys should be thinking about? Principles that they may wanna keep in mind , as they’re considering the Christmas season? JOSH TURANSKY: One thing that you did mention kinda in passing, which was just thinking about this in advance. Like, when in the year, ‘cause we’re actually doing this kinda late. I mean, hopefully by the time this comes out people already have a plan for this year going into Christmas. When do you make these plans? CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah, I would say if you don’t have a plan right now, don’t let that make you go “Oh, I’m too late this year.” You probably can do something at this point. But yeah generally speaking I think church planters plan way too late for almost everything they do. I would really encourage you to like the practice we got in a couple of years ago is like have you know, setting up your calendar for the year at the end of the previous year. So you should absolutely be at least putting in those big pieces on the calendar so that as you get closer to them you could prepare. JOSH TURANSKY: Okay. Those are some great points, were excited for you guys out there celebrating the Christmas season leading your community in that worship. , Clint. Final words? Thoughts CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah, I would say if you do something cool at Christmas or if you have some kind of cool outcome from it, why don’t you send us an email and tell us about it. Or, just record a simple audio message on your phone. and email it over to us. And if we like it we’ll put it on the podcast JOSH TURANSKY: Great. Awesome.So much of what we do these days in ministry today takes place online. So, we need somebody to help us with the digital aspects of our ministry. Well I found a great partner in 180digital.com. These guys are ministry guys, they love the gospel and they love the church and they’re super good at what they do. So I want to encourage you to go to over and check out their website it’s 180digital.com. They do all kinds of stuff and they work with big and small churches. So, right now, they’re offering our listeners 20% off of any website or branding project just for mentioning the church planting podcast. So, go over to their website and check it out – 180digital.comALBERT: Thank you for listening to the church planting podcast. 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