Podcast appearances and mentions of Kristian Bush

Get ready- this one is a doozy -- Cortni Bird — Artist | Entrepreneur | TV & Media Host | AerialistBased in Navarre, Florida,  Known professionally as Cortni Bird—is a dynamic force in music, media, and business. She blends her passion for entertainment with a mission to uplift individuals and her local community across the Gulf Coast.

During this episode of ROCKnVINO, hosts Coco and Michelle talk with Patrick Davis, founder of Songwriters in Paradise and winemaker Angelina Mondavi. Songwriters in Paradise brings together the best of the best in one setting - amazing songwriters performing their tunes in a "songwriters in the round" format - intimate and unforgettable, plus the best wines, all at beautiful locations. Each day features two sessions with 3 songwriters each. Known as SIP, this year the SIP Napa set of concerts is happening at various locations from April 9th through April 13th, and SIP Healdsburg is July 22nd through July 26th. In Napa, the hosting wineries include Alpha Omega, Whitehall Lane, and Brasswood, plus Angelina Mondavi's Women Winemakers Opening Night at Harvest Inn Vineyard View Terrace. Artists include Shawn Mullins, Kim Richey, James Otto, Kristian Bush, Gretchen Peters, and more! Tickets are very limited, and can be purchased individually or as a package. Learn more at songwritersinparadise.com   ROCKnVINO is sponsored by American AgCredit.  

Out Friday is S13 Ep2 of @cloudwatcher.uno podcast with @kristianbush Kristian Bush is a modern renaissance artist, singer and producer. About to head out on tour as one half of the platinum selling country duo @sugarland alongside @jennifernettles The duo achieved significant success with hits like "Stay," "All I Want to Do," and "Stuck Like Glue," earning numerous awards and accolades throughout their career. In addition to his own career as an artist with tracks like 'Trailer Hitch', Bush has made notable contributions as a producer, particularly with @megmoroney albums, where his influence has helped shape the sound of modern country music. Bush shares insights inb this podcasts about his music, the creative process and what it means to be a successful artist in Nashville. His multifaceted career continues to evolve, showcasing his talents both as a performer and a producer. PLAY. LISTEN. ENJOY

Kristian Bush from Sugarland joins Jennie Longdon on a hay bale backstage at The Long Festival. He talks about how it feels performing for UK country fans, what it's like working with names like Taylor Swift, Thomas Rhett and Megan Moroney and reflects on his many performances at The Grand Ole Opry. He also shares the inspiration behind Sugarland's brand-new EP 'There Goes The Neighbourhood'.

Kent Aberle is a first call drummer from Atlanta, GA. Kent is currently performing with Blackberry Smoke. He has previously recorded and toured with Kristian Bush of Sugarland , James Hall (Pleasure Club, Marry My Hope), R.A.H. and numerous other artists. Kent has over 25 years touring experience both in the US and Internationally including China, Japan, Australia, Taiwan, Canada, and others. Kent has performed on The Conan O'Brien Show, The Today Show with Kathy Lee and Hoda, The Talk, and has performed numerous times at the Grand Ole Opry as well as the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville and major festivals around the world. In this episode, Kent talks about: The old school guitar-driven American rock band that it Blackberry Smoke Having long-standing relationships with the band and its individual members Teching and subbing for Brit Turner after Brit got sick The idea of someone's drumming matching their personality Being welcomed into the band by members and fans alike Investing heavily and committing exclusively to one gig Here's our Patreon Here's our Youtube Here's our Homepage

Grateful to catch up with John Driskell Hopkins (Hop) again to see how he's doing with his ALS diagnosis.  About 2.5 years after being told he had ALS, John continues to perform with the Zac Brown Band.  Despite seeing some progression of the disease, Hop is living a full and joyful life.  He's busy creating new music, being a family man and promoting Hop On A Cure, the foundation he & his wife, Jennifer started to accelerate ALS research.   Hop shares how ALS is affecting him & what it's like living out this journey in the public eye.   He updates us on his family, his music projects & how we all can join his efforts to find ALS cures.  Hop gives a sneak peek of their upcoming Harmony for Hope Gala in Atlanta, Georgia on September 14, 2024 - which will be a one of a kind evening with performances by Hop, Zac Brown, Clay Cook, Coy Bowles, Danny De Los Reyes, Kristian Bush, Lily Costner and other special guests.   Listen in to our conversation & share with a friend.  Hugs, LorriI am so incredibly grateful that you are here. It means the world to me! Thank you. Follow and see what's coming next: Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, LinkedIn.

During this episode of ROCKnVINO, hosts Coco and Michelle welcome back Patrick Davis, Founder of Songwriters in Paradise, a series of intimate songwriter showcases in the round where each songwriter shares the stories behind the songs, all paired with delicious food and wine. This year, the series returns to both Napa County and Sonoma County.    SIP Napa is happening April 18th through April 21st with showcases at Alpha Omega, Charles Krug, Silver Oak, and Brasswood wineries. Artists such as Kristian Bush of Sugarland, Channing Wilson, and Marc Broussard take turns performing songs and chatting about their music.   Then SIP comes back to Healdsburg from July 24th through July 27th with showcases at Banshee, Robert Young, Bricoleur and La Crema wineries. New to Songwriters in Paradise this time is Shawn Mullins, who wrote hits including Lullaby, Shimmer, and Beautiful Wreck. Also performing is multi Grammy winner Dan Tyminski (probably best known as the singing voice of George Clooney's character in O Brother Where Art Thou), and Kim Richey. You can get tickets for a single day, or passes for the whole weekend. Learn more at songwritersinparadise.com.   ROCKnVINO is sponsored by American AgCredit.  

We're so stoked to have Caleb Lee Hutchinson as our guest on No Simple Road this week! For as long as Caleb Lee Hutchinson has been making music, he has rooted his creative process in the brutal honesty and rich storytelling tradition of country music's roots. Hutchinson's voice and wit inspired important collaborations on his 2019 self-titled debut EP, produced by Grammy winner Kristian Bush, and 2021 follow-up, “Slot Machine Syndrome,” produced by Grammy-nominated Americana stalwart, Brent Cobb. In 2022, Caleb self-produced the darkly themed EP, “Songs I'll Never Sing Again,” and wrote and starred in the accompanying short film.  With his new project, “Southern Galactic,”—produced by multi-genre artist and creator Titanic Sinclair—Hutchinson explores new territory while maintaining his reverence for the honesty and storytelling that seeded his love for country music as a Georgia boy listening to Mississippi John Hurt and Waylon Jennings cassettes with his dad. This one goes deep talking to Caleb about: - His mental health struggles. - The stigma of being a man and dealing with an eating disorder. - His experience of being runner-up on American idol and what that whole experience did to his mental health. - Coming to learn that being honest and transparent is truly healing. - The real horrors of social media comments sections. - The ways in which Country Music and Punk Rock overlap. - His new album 'Southern Galactic'. - Leaning to ignore the inner voice that wants us to fail. - The impetus of the idea for The Green Couch podcast. ... and a whole lot more! For all the tour info, music, mailing list, and more head over to www.calebleehutchinson.com  -For THE BEST MUSHROOM CHOCOLATES EVER go over to @MELTMUSHROOMS ON INSTAGRAM and shoot them a DM for a menu of all the amazing flavors of MUSHROOM CHOCOLATE BARS and MAKE SURE TO TELL THEM NSR SENT YOU FOR $20 OFF YOUR FIRST ORDER! -FREE SHIPPING from Shop Tour Bus Use The PROMO CODE: nosimpleroad -Make Sure to visit our friends at Fire On The Mountain for some amazing food at one of the 3 location in the Portland area or one of the 2 location in the Denver area! INTRO MUSIC PROVIDED BY - Will Hanza of Escaper MUSIC IN THE COMMERCIALS BY AND USED WITH PERMISSION OF: CIRCLES AROUND THE SUN OUTRO MUSIC BY AND USED WITH PERMISSION OF: CHILLDREN OF INDIGO No Simple Road is part of OSIRIS MEDIA. Osiris Media is the leading storyteller in music, combining the intimacy of podcasts with the power of music.

Ellis Paul doesn't just write songs; he's a guitar-carrying reporter who covers the human condition and details the hopes, loves, losses of those he observes, turning their stories into luminous pieces of music that get under your skin and into your bloodstream. And much like the artists who have influenced him, everyone from Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan and Paul Simon to the singer-songwriter who is undoubtedly his greatest inspiration, Woody Guthrie, Paul weaves deeply personal experiences with social issues and renders them as provocative works that are as timely as they are timeless. Born and raised in Maine, Paul attended Boston College on a track scholarship and in the evenings became a fixture on the city's open mic circuit. After winning a Boston Acoustic Underground songwriter competition, he caught the ear of folk luminary Bill Morrissey, who produced his indie album Say Something in 1993. This led to a seven- album contract with Rounder Records and the 1994 album, Stories.His songs have appeared in several blockbuster films (Me, Myself, and Irene; Shallow Hal, Hall Pass) and have been covered by award winning country artists (Sugarland, Kristian Bush, Jack Ingram). Through a steady succession of albums of his own – a remarkable 23 releases so far – and a constant touring presence around the world, Paul's audience has grown into a loyal legion of fans. Learn more about Ellis Paul at www.ellispaul.comHost Lee Zimmerman is a freelance music writer whose articles have appeared in several leading music industry publications. Lee is a former promotions representative for ABC and Capital Records and director of communications for various CBS affiliated television stations. Lee authored "Americana Music - Voices, Visionaries & Pioneers of an Honest Sound," as well as his recent book about legendary producer and engineer Jim Gains "Thirty Years Behind The Glass," both are now available on Amazon and other outlets.Lee also played a key role in securing airplay for Jimmy Buffett's first major hit, “Margaritaville” so you can blame him for the fact that it's become something akin to a Parrot heads' national anthem! During his time at Capital records Lee also worked with such legends as Paul McCartney, Bob Seger, the Steve Miller Band, and others. You can contact Lee at lezim@bellsouth.net and find him online at https://www.storiesbeyondthemusic.comPodcast producer/cohost Billy Hubbard is a Tennessee based Americana Singer/Songwriter and former Regional Director of A&R for a Grammy winning company, as well as a music and podcast producer. Billy is also the venue developer, booking manager, and co-founder of the iconic venue "The Station" in East Tennessee. As an artist Billy is endorsed by Godin's Simon & Patrick Guitars and his YouTube channel has over 3 million viewers. Billy's new self titled album was released on Spectra Records October 2023 on iTunes and all major outlets! Learn more about Billy online at http://www.BillyHubbard.comMy Backstage Pass intro/outro music credit; Billy Hubbard "Waiting' on The Wind"

This week on the podcast, Ryan and Patrick are joined by Kristian Bush to talk about his new EP, Drink Happy Thoughts - together, they also talk about Kristian's rise to fame with the band Sugarland, experimentation in songwriting and how he takes time for himself.

On this week's episode of Stories Behind the Songs, we are joined by Kristian Bush. You may know Kristian from the band Sugarland, his production skills on Lindsey Ell's records, or maybe you've listened to his solo work. This week you'll learn it all as we dive into the life and career of one of music's most versatile and talented artists. From his early days raised in music on the Suzuki method to his adventures in rock, country, and beyond, Kristian Bush has stories that are as diverse as his music.  You're going to hear all about Kristian's first record deal at the age of 22, how he managed to keep a record deal throughout the entirety of his music career, his introduction to Jennifer Nettles and the origins of Sugarland, the work he has done producing other artists, and the musical adventures he found himself in throughout the years.   You'll hear the stories behind “All I Want To Do”, “Baby Girl”, and “Babe” as well as the twists and turns of Kristian's career both within and outside of Sugarland. Kristian is such an icon in the music industry but also manages to be an extremely kind and humble guy. He is now doing some work with “Jawaiin” music – which you will hear all about in this week's episode – and is continuing to broaden his experience and learn as much as he can from others. We hope you enjoyed this episode as much as we did!  Please help us by spreading the word of this podcast. As we continue to grow, we appreciate the support – so send it to a friend, hit that like/subscribe/follow button wherever you're listening and we can't thank you enough!  Show Notes: Kristian's Instagram - @KristianBush Kristian's TikTok - @KristianBushMusic Sugarland's Website - SugarlandMusic.com Sugarland's Instagram - @Sugarland And follow us, The Stories Behind the Songs Podcast, here: Chris Blair's website - ChrisBlair.com Chris Blair's Instagram - @ChrisBlairMusic SBTSongs Instagram - @SBTSongs SBTSongs TikTok - @SBTSongs SBTSongs YouTube - @SBTSongs #SBTSongs --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sbtsongs/support

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned! This week is the 5th installment of our series celebrating the gender with the most attitude and pure ferocity. Piss off a man; you can fight it out and then go have a pint at the pub. Piss off a woman, and you will pay for it 10-fold… In this episode, we focus on women that truly rock! Ladies that play loud and heavy with attitude, grit, and that rasp. What's this InObscuria thing? We're a podcast that exhumes obscure Rock n' Punk n' Metal and puts them in one of 3 categories: the Lost, the Forgotten, or the Should Have Beens. These ladies bring it, and you owe to yourself to check them out! We hope we turn you on to something new!Songs this week include:The Gems – “Like A Phoenix” from Like A Phoenix - single (2023)Blues Pills – “Proud Woman” from Holy Moly! (2020)ONE FALL – “Rats Abandon Ship” from ONE FALL (2022)Stonefield – “Shutdown” from BENT (2019)Larkin Poe – “Strike Gold” from Blood Harmony (2022)The Downhauls – “Spit The Poison Out” from Spit Into The Void - EP (2023)Thunderpussy – “Thunderpussy” from Thunderpussy (2018)Visit us: https://inobscuria.com/https://www.facebook.com/InObscuriahttps://twitter.com/inobscuriahttps://www.instagram.com/inobscuria/Buy cool stuff with our logo on it!: https://www.redbubble.com/people/InObscuria?asc=uCheck out Robert's amazing fire sculptures and metal workings here: http://flamewerx.com/If you'd like to check out Kevin's band THE SWEAR, take a listen on all streaming services or pick up a digital copy of their latest release here: https://theswear.bandcamp.com/If you want to hear Robert and Kevin's band from the late 90s – early 00s BIG JACK PNEUMATIC, check it out here: https://bigjackpnuematic.bandcamp.com/

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Patrick Davis is the founder of Songwriters in Paradise - a series of intimate songwriter showcases in the round where each songwriter shares the stories behind the songs, all paired with delicious food and wine. The SIP Napa event is April 19-22, 2023 at Frank Family Vineyards, Alpha Omega, Charles Krug, and Brasswood Napa Valley. Songwriters include Tim Nichols who co-wrote the massive hit "Live Like You Were Dying" made famous by Tim McGraw. SIP Healdsburg returns July 18-22, 2023 with performances at Robert Young, Bella Vineyards and Wine Caves, Bricoleur Vineyards, and Saralee's Vineyard at La Crema. Songwriters include John Driskell Hopkins, one of the founders of the Zac Brown Band, as well as Kristian Bush, one half of Grammy winning country music super group Sugarland.    These intimate performances are restricted to a very small audience, and help raise money for local charities, such as The Boys & Girls Club of St. Helena & Calistoga and Notes for Education. Learn more at songwritersinparadise.com  

On today's episode of Cadillac Jack – My Second Act, we're going to the wayback machine: back to Episode 2, when Donna shocked the world with her thoughts about turning left on red. Enjoy! Kristian Bush of Sugarland and Dark Water fame gives the memorable introduction to his friend Caddy. If you still haven't, you should definitely go show him some love and follow him on Instagram and Twitter @kristianbush. It's a throwback to when Caddy reveals his New Year's Eve crew, Donna talks about her bad driving habit (we do not recommend it), and the social media phenomena that Caddy can't get enough of. Of course, we include a mailbag question from a listener and much more! Cadillac Jack. New show, same ride. Enjoy! Leave a message for the pod by calling 770-464-6024. We might play it on a future episode! Please rate and review the show! It helps other people find us.

Kristian Bush of Sugarland shares the details on his new album, "52, This Year" plus talks about The Billy Pilgrim reunion show happening in Charleston, the role he is playing in the career of iHeart Country On The Verge Artist Megan Moroney and how he gave up his inhertitance from the Bush Bean Empire to follow his dream.And whattya know...He made his dreams come true! And he still loves you more than anything in the world.Love,Your baby girl

It's rare… like REALLY rare… that I'm BLOWN AWAY by someone's podcast content – but The Zak Kuhn Show immediately stopped me in my tracks. Everything about Zak's show is top-notch: his cover art, his audio quality, his writing skills, his intentionality behind the content, his marketing strategy, the caliber of guests – but most impressive of all is Zak's thoughtfulness in the prep he does before each interview, resulting in honest and vulnerable conversations you won't hear anywhere else. In this conversation, Zak shares: how he was able to get 5k+ subscribers for his newsletter in just 2 years, the tips and techniques he recommends for getting the best and most unique interview from each podcast guest, why he once spent roughly THIRTY HOURS prepping for a SINGLE podcast interview, the INCREDIBLE series of strategic events (including, you guessed it… buying a billboard) that leaded to landing Bobby Bones as the guest on his 100th podcast episode, and so much more! Zak Kuhn is an entertainment entrepreneur and media personality, always at the intersection of music and culture through his various ventures. Most notably, he is the Founder & CEO of The Nashville Briefing – a newsletter covering the confluence of country music and the global music business – that in just two years amassed thousands of subscribers. On his podcast The Zak Kuhn Show, Zak interviews leaders, legends and icons in the world of entertainment, including Bobby Bones, Matt Stell, Ingrid Andress, Kelleigh Bannen, Tenille Townes, Seaforth, Kristian Bush of Sugarland, Brian Kelley of Florida Georgia Line, BRELAND, Mitchell Tenpenny, Lindsay Ell, Dan Smyers of Dan + Shay, and many more. CONNECT FURTHER WITH GUEST:Website: https://www.thenashvillebriefing.com Podcast: https://apple.co/3DFKwufYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCleatV1PZDARg0tuAcWuYTATikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thezakkuhnshowIG (personal): https://www.instagram.com/zak_kuhn_official IG (podcast): https://www.instagram.com/thezakkuhnshow CONNECT FURTHER WITH ANGIE:Podcast: https://www.yougetwhatimsaying.com Listen Early and Dynamic Ad-Free on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/44Y6rbYSocial Media: https://beacons.ai/theactualangie/socialmedia Contact: yougetwhatimsaying.podcast@gmail.com Monetize Your Podcast: https://beacons.ai/theactualangie/monetizeSupport the Show: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/yougetit/membershipADVERTISE ON THE SHOW: To inquire about host-read ads or to become the show's next Presenting Sponsor, please send an email to yougetwhatimsaying.podcast@gmail.com.EPISODE CREDITS:Podcast Logo: Abby MurdockPodcast Cover Photography: April Bowers CreativeBE ADVISED:Formerly titled Podfluencer Society (for before that, 4 Things For Your Podcast), episodes 1-114 share insights and strategies specifically for podcasters. As the podcast has undergone a complete rebrand, some links and information referenced in earlier episodes have likely changed. Please contact us at yougetwhatimsaying.podcast@gmail.com if you cannot find what you are looking for. The views and opinions expressed in each episode are those of the individual contributors and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast host and team or the owner of this Intellectual Property. This podcast is not an authority of legal advice, and listeners are encouraged to seek professional counsel with regard to their brand, business, and otherwise. Many of the product and service promotions in each episode are under the negotiated terms of affiliate or sponsorship agreements. If a link is clicked and a purchase is made, an affiliate commission may be received. However, we recommend products or services that we personally endorse and believe may be beneficial to others. This information is disclosed in accordance with the Federal Trade Commission's 16 CFR, Part 255: “Guides Concerning the Use of Endorsements and Testimonials in Advertising."

Q&A on the series American Anthems with musicians & songwriters Lindsay Ell and Kristian Bush. Moderated by Mara Webster, In Creative Company. Country music performers meet people who are facing extraordinary circumstances and present them with songs written especially for them.

Your weekly country news update for the week of 9/26 featuring an interview with Kristian Bush of Sugarland. Follow us on socials at @allcountrynews. Submit to us at allcountrynews.com

Episode 70: BMI Songwriters Special Part 1. Kristian Merrill Bush (born March 14, 1970 in Knoxville, TN) is an American singer, songwriter, and record producer. Bush is one half of the country music duo Sugarland with Jennifer Nettles, and was a member of the folk rock duo Billy Pilgrim with Andrew Hyra. In addition to his work in these two groups, Bush has released one solo album, Southern Gravity, via Streamsound Records in 2015. Bush co-founded Sugarland in 2002, signed with Mercury Records Nashville in 2004, and exploded onto the country music scene. They have surpassed sales of over 22 million albums worldwide, achieved five No. 1 singles and won numerous awards, including trophies from the Grammys, American Music Awards, Academy of Country Music Awards, CMT Music Awards, CMA Awards and BMI. Kristian is returning with new album “52,” a 52-song collection sparked by his 52nd birthday that showcases his fresh, authentic sound and leans into his influences collected throughout his eclectic career. “I've been given the opportunity to reinvent myself many times,” Kristian said. “And, I've been grateful in every incarnation. Here comes another one.” kristianbush.com

Thor: Love and Thunder, the Black Phone, Jurassic World: Dominion, The Ip Man: The Awakening, and the new release from Kristian Bush are all on this week's call sheet for Meet me at the Movies: Episode 466. Footage is used by permission for review, critique, educational, and parody purposes. Hosts of today's show are registered film journalists.

arlo is a central TX based songwriter with an anchor in NYC. The debut release of his 2018 self-titled LP record was co-written and produced by Houston-based producer, Eric Jarvis, at "crushpad productions." The 10-song true story and expression of love then loss was a dramatically vulnerable Americana Pop record written and recorded by Aaron Long (arlo) alongside Jarvis. This began a relationship with the powerhouse music producing duo, brothers Kristian Bush and Brandon Bush (Sugarland, Dark Water) and renowned Atlanta-based studio engineer Tom Tapley (Pearl Jam, Bruce Springsteen, Train, Wallflowers) and plans were set in motion to record the follow-up EP in Atlanta, which is set to be released in Summer 2022. arlo's anticipated follow-up EP “Lonely Soldier” is set to release in 2022 alongside plans to tour support and develop another batch of dramatic love songs. Hand-picked heavy hitters Benji Shanks (guitar) and Travis McNabb (drums) joined the ATL sessions, and together the team sculpted a carefully realized and economically structured blend of Americana Pop Rock that soars and snaps. Goes well with ELO, John Lennon, Beatles. Follow up singles "Goodbye Picture," "Rain Parade" were released in 2021 along with John Lennon International Award and International Songwriting Competition Finalist "Ingenue." Debut single "New York, Queens" was also a finalist in a separate category the same year. arlo has been featured in numerous music and community platforms including "Rising Star" and "Voyage Magazine." --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/grayson-mask/support

SUMMARY:Our guest is Grammy winner Kristian Bush, best known as one half of the country duo Sugarland. He chats about a career that has earned him six BMI awards, five ACM awards, and five CMA Vocal Duo of the Year honors, as well as about his ambitious new solo project, which will include four albums in one year that will present a total of 52 songs.PART ONE:Paul and Scott talk celebrity softball tournaments, John Schneider, waterbeds, and Walter Payton. And it's even weirder than it sounds.  PART TWO:Our in-depth conversation with Kristian BushABOUT KRISTIAN BUSH:Kristian Bush is best known as one half of the platinum-selling country duo Sugarland. The Sevierville, Tennessee native spent his formative years making music with his brother Brandon, who would go on to play keyboards in the rock brand Train. Kristian launched his professional music career from Atlanta in 1994 with the folk-rock duo Billy Pilgrim, which released two albums for Atlantic Records. Within the decade, he moved on to form Sugarland with Kristen Hall and Jennifer Nettles, and the group's debut single “Baby Girl” became a massive hit. Their debut album, Twice the Speed of Life, which was produced by Garth Fundis, was certified triple platinum. With the departure of Kristen Hall, Sugarland became a duo that went on to rack up five #1 hit singles, including “All I Want to Do” and the Grammy-winning “Stay.” Additional hits followed, including the double platinum “Stuck Like Glue” and “Babe,” a collaboration with Taylor Swift. Sugarland has sold over 22 million albums worldwide and was inducted into the Georgia Music Hall of Fame. Kristian has earned six BMI awards and is a four-time Grammy nominee. In addition to five ACM awards, Sugarland has won the CMA's Vocal Duo of the Year honor five times. Kristian's most recent solo project is called 52, a series of four albums comprised of a total of 52 songs. The first installment, called ATL x BNA is available now. 

Kristian Bush is a GRAMMY® Award-winning singer, songwriter, producer and multi-instrumentalist. Three times he's conjured his musical dreams into reality – once with his folk rock duo Billy Pilgrim, once with his country duo Sugarland - who have sold over 22 million albums worldwide, and most recently as a solo artist. ABOUT THE PODCAST:  Candid discussions with and about those behind the scenes in the music business including industry veterans representing the segments of: Musician, Design & Live ABOUT THE HOSTS: All three Music Buzzz Podcast hosts (Dane Clark, Hugh Syme and Andy Wilson) have spent their careers working with the biggest names in entertainment and have been, and still are, a fly on the wall. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kristian Bush is a GRAMMY® Award-winning singer, songwriter, producer and multi-instrumentalist. Three times he's conjured his musical dreams into reality – once with his folk rock duo Billy Pilgrim, once with his country duo Sugarland - who have sold over 22 million albums worldwide, and most recently as a solo artist.ABOUT THE PODCAST: Candid discussions with and about those behind the scenes in the music business including industry veterans representing the segments of: Musician, Design & LiveABOUT THE HOSTS:All three Music Buzzz Podcast hosts (Dane Clark, Hugh Syme and Andy Wilson) have spent their careers working with the biggest names in entertainment and have been, and still are, a fly on the wall.

ABOUT KRISTIAN BUSH:Kristian Bush is a GRAMMY® Award-winning singer, songwriter, producer and multi-instrumentalist. Three times he's conjured his musical dreams into reality – once with his folk rock duo Billy Pilgrim, once with his country duo Sugarland - who have sold over 22 million albums worldwide, and most recently as a solo artist.ABOUT THE PODCAST: Candid discussions with and about those behind the scenes in the music business including industry veterans representing the segments of: Musician, Design & LiveABOUT THE HOSTS:All three Music Buzzz Podcast hosts (Dane Clark, Hugh Syme and Andy Wilson) have spent their careers working with the biggest names in entertainment and have been, and still are, a fly on the wall.

ABOUT KRISTIAN BUSH: Kristian Bush is a GRAMMY® Award-winning singer, songwriter, producer and multi-instrumentalist. Three times he's conjured his musical dreams into reality – once with his folk rock duo Billy Pilgrim, once with his country duo Sugarland - who have sold over 22 million albums worldwide, and most recently as a solo artist. ABOUT THE PODCAST:  Candid discussions with and about those behind the scenes in the music business including industry veterans representing the segments of: Musician, Design & Live ABOUT THE HOSTS: All three Music Buzzz Podcast hosts (Dane Clark, Hugh Syme and Andy Wilson) have spent their careers working with the biggest names in entertainment and have been, and still are, a fly on the wall. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kristian Bush knows an outside song is the right one to record when even he thinks it sounds like he wrote it. That's what these two songs have in common - Kristian didn't write either of them.Episode three pairs new "52" song "World Ain't As Bad (As You Think)," written by Luke Dick, Ben Hayslip and Chase McGill with Sugarland/Taylor Swift duet "Babe," which Taylor wrote with Train's Patrick Monahan.Luke Dick is one of Kristian's favorite songwriters, and who doesn't love working with Taylor Swift?This week, hear the fun, inside stories on both!

Had the pleasure of talking with rising artist and songwriter Megan Moroney on Episode 89! Topics: Georgia Moving to Nashville in 2020Influencer LifeTikTok Megan's favorite Nashville spotsThe support she's had from friends and familyHer connection to Kristian Bush (formerly of Sugarland)Some of Megan's top Nashville moments so farWhat's to come in 2022For more on Megan Moroney on Spotify, Instagram and TikTok Check out our sponsors!Trailside CBD: Use promo code ITR for 20% offSaxman StudiosWhale Tale MediaMitch Wallis 'The Digital Marketing Agency' Be sure to Rate and Subscribe to the podcast! 

Coming soon, "52 – The Podcast" with Kristian Bush and Cindy Watts celebrates the stories behind Bush's new and award-winning songs. Original episodes will be released for free every week for 52 weeks.

Grammy Award winning Singer/Songwriter/Producer, Kristian Bush, joins Chris Rhoad and BoatCast Mark to relive his first Rock Boat experience on TRB XXI. On that sailing, Kristian performed with Dark Water (his newest band), Billy Pilgrim (his 90's band), and a Kristian Bush show. Kristian is best-known as one-half of the platinum-selling country superstar duo, Sugarland but has been a staple in the music scene across genres for well over twenty years (and his connection with Sister Hazel extends back to those early days), so when he compliments Sixthman for their professionalism and happy demeanor, it truly means a lot. He found himself as a student of fellow bands as well as a fan. During the course of the Boat, he discovered some amazing new talent and is excited to write with David Wimbish (of The Collection www.thecollectionband.com) and producing a new record with Mom Rock (www.momrockofficial.com). Support Kristian and his various bands! Kristian Bush can be found at: Website: http://www.kristianbush.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KristianBushOfficial YouTube: https://youtube.com/user/KristianBush Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kristianbush/?hl=enDark Water can be found at: Website: https://www.darkwatermusic.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/darkwatermusicYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgo-QWZakyG81WVpcSFm6hQ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/darkwater_music/ Billy Pilgrim can be found at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/billypilgrimofficialTwitter: https://twitter.com/_billypilgrim Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/billypilgrimofficial/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/746YNSygzZCvO5AyYsfaNa?_url=%2FBP.CallItEven Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/billy-pilgrim/3898084 Pandora Music: https://www.pandora.com/artist/billy-pilgrim/call-it-even-single/ALkVmlVPZK47K6J?_url=%2FBP.CallItEven YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbMFDVsbibz2oKtnzD2NtZQ Sugarland can be found at: Website: https://www.sugarlandmusic.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/sugarland/Twitter: https://twitter.com/sugarlandmusicInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/Sugarland/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0hYxQe3AK5jBPCr5MumLHD?si=GhucmT8IQhqk79x9_eq1RA Apple Music: Amazon Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/sugarland/17547055 Pandora Music: https://www.pandora.com/artist/sugarland/AR5tJJZ4hxpfhl6Do You Live Your Life Rock Boat to Rock Boat? If so, join The BoatCast... A Podcast for Rock Boaters by Rock Boaters. The BoatCast would like to thank our sponsor, lifecoachingforwomenphysicians.com, for supporting us in promoting Rock Boat Artists. If you want to get the word out about these artists and are interested in sponsoring The Boatcast, please email Chris at: ChristopherRhoad@gmail.com.

Kristian Bush is a singer, songwriter, record producer and one half of the country music duo Sugarland. In this episode we talk about how Kristian prepared for his TED Talk, how he wrote the opening lines to Sugarland's biggest hits, why he recently started writing musicals and so much more. I guarantee you'll learn something from Kristian.

Cloverleaf Radio's host The Host with the Most Jimmy Falcon "The King of the Quarantine" welcomes Drummer Kent Aberle for Ep 1 of our Memories of Ted's Warehouse Podcast! Check it out! Kent Aberle is a first call drummer from Atlanta, GA. Kent is currently performing and recording with a number of artists. Kent's ability to be a groove chameleon performing all styles of music as well as his harmonizing backing vocal ability has made Kent one of the busiest drummers in the U.S. for both live performance and sessions. Kent has over 20 years touring experience both in the US and Internationally including China, Japan, Australia, Canada, and others. Kent has performed on The Conan O'Brien Show, The Today Show with Kathy Lee and Hoda, The Talk, and has performed numerous times at the Grand Ole Opry as well as the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville and numerous major festivals around the world. With a strong belief in the power of rhythm to shape lives, Kent has become one the busiest instructors in Atlanta while keeping a busy schedule of touring and drum clinics. This aspiration to teach led to Kent's online lesson program at www.kentaberle.com as well as authoring “The Weekend Warrior” column for DRUMHEAD Magazine, one of the top drum magazines in the world. Kent endorses Aquarian Drumheads, Gretsch Drums, Gibraltar Hardware, Vic Firth Drumsticks, Dream Cymbals, Big Fat Snare Drum, Porter and Davies, Gig-Gear, Gator Cases, KBrakes, SE Electronics, Solomon Mics, Hendrix Sleeved Washers, and Booty Shakers. Kent is now accepting students in the Atlanta, GA area. Weekly daytime hours and early evening times available. Availability is limited. Kent has performed, recorded, and toured with the following acts, among others, during his career. Kristian Bush of Sugarland Dark Water Darling Machine R.A.H. (Ross.Aberle.Hollifield) James Hall & The Steady Wicked Rita Wilson The Swear The Mood Duo Grandville Automatic Michael Malarkey Farewell Angelina Larkin Poe Evil Little Wonder Babies The On Fires (Australia) Sam Moore (Rock n Roll Hall of Famer) The Shirrelles The Tokens The Blues Brothers of Las Vegas Gene Chandler Andrew Velez Chris Pierson Band SuperHooligan Cherry Vallance Dr Wu's Rock & Soul Revue Burn Poprocks Brian Cameron and Friends Mighty Sideshow The New Brew Obsession Day Watermarke Church Northlink Church Bridgepointe Church North Metro Church Blues Radio Brent Rubsam Mark Cook Nigredo The Sundogs The Wilson Braswell Band Metalsone Inc The Dixie Dix Jason Salzman The Livin' Large Band Andrew Black and The Believers Desire (The U2 Tribute) Siamese Dream (Smashing Pumpkins Tribute) Andy Birdsall Francisco Vidal Stephen James Big Atomic Big Jack Pneumatic Waiting For Princess Voices from the Shelter Willis Jackhammer Top Gun Hypnotic The Flag BoysTy Renolds XVI Gary Ray Killer and The Savage Mario Diaz High Fidelity Shark Fighter 68-75 Dwight Raby Andrew Velez --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jianetwork/support

Making a Scene Presents an Interview with Taylor RaeThe singer/songwriter's eclectic style was influenced by a diverse roster of artists that includes Grace Potter, Janis Joplin, Sheryl Crow, Norah Jones, Jewel, Simon & Garfunkel and Steely Dan. In pre-pandemic times, Taylor averaged 200 gigs annually, including the second stage at the legendary Stubb's in Austin, Hotel Café in Hollywood and Santa Cruz's Moe's Alley, Kuumbwa Jazz and the Catalyst. She has also played popular Northern California festivals and opened for artists including Brandy Clark, Kristian Bush, Reggae musician Mike Love and The Stone Foxes.

City Lights senior producer Kim Drobes talked to Sterling “The Trap King” Davis and learned how his path went from rapping to trapping.Plus, Lois Reitzes speaks with playwright and novelist Phillip DePoy and Sugarland's Grammy Award-winning front man and co-lyricist Kristian Bush about the world-premiere of the musical "Darlin' Cory". See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, we'll talk about the Alliance Theatre's season premiere. Live theater has been one of the major casualties of the pandemic, but this fall, many local companies are venturing back into live productions with audiences in attendance. The Alliance Theatre will be among them, kicking things off with “Darlin' Cory,” an Appalachian-set new musical from the local team of playwright Phillip DePoy and musician Kristian Bush. Bo Emerson spoke with the creators recently about the show and he'll bring us that conversation.

On this episode of The Marty Ray Project: Chats, Chris Wallin and Marty Ray interview the amazing musician and singer/ songwriter from Sugarland, Kristian Bush. We discuss: Bush's early bands, how the Sugarland duo with Jennifer Nettles came to be, his life growing up in the Bush Baked Beans family, possible mafia involvement in his grandfather's sell of the company, his new band Dark Water and the music they have releasing soon, being a character in a game his child loves, and much more, Dont miss it!  FOLLOW Kristian - IG - @KristianBush - YT - @KristianBush FOLLOW TMRP: Chats - IG - @TheMartyRayProjectChats - YT - @TheMartyRayProjectChats

• Dolly will be on TV during this weekends football game! • Kristian Bush reunites with old duo — no, not Jennifer Nettles • Carly Pearce has come full circle with a TV appearance! Get In The Know On Music Row in less than 2 minutes inside our podcast!

Bryan is a thirty-year veteran of the music industry. Over the past eight years he has been a member of the executive management team at Red Light Management, the number one artist management company in the world, and has managed the careers of multiple clients (both personally and as a team member) whose combined portfolio values in excess of 95 million dollars. Frasher oversees all aspects of their businesses such as strategic career planning, domestic and international tour & merchandise marketing, sponsorships & branding, creative endeavors, recording contracts and label relations, publishing, TV, radio, product development, and so on – current management clients include Craig Morgan (alongside Gaines Sturdivant), The Cadillac Three, Kristian Bush (from the band Sugarland) and Caleb Lee Hutchinson. Prior to coming to Red Light Management, Frasher was the Vice President of BNA Records, a subsidiary of Sony Music, where he was responsible for national radio promotion and marketing for the BNA roster of recording artists. During this period Bryan ushered 26 singles to the number one spot on the US country music charts and was an integral part of the executive team making decisions for Sony Music Nashville as a whole. He works closely with Operation Finally Home (which provides mortgage free homes to disabled veterans), is an advisor at The Nashville Entrepreneur Center, a member of Leadership Music’s class of 2012, and along with his wife Traci, is a founding member of Project Paper Doll, which funded the music therapy program at the Monroe Carroll Jr. Children’s Hospital at Vanderbilt.

Join Nick as he learns the history of Billy Pilgrim as well as the story of their return. You'll learn about their days with Atlantic Records as well as what Billy Pilgrim lessons Kristian Bush carried with him as he started superstar country band "Sugarland." Great folks! Great chat!

I've been looking forward to sharing this conversation since the moment I answered the zoom call. Joining me today is country artist Lindsay Ell. If you're not familiar with her music, I highly suggest you check it out. But do it after you listen to the show. She put out her latest album, 'Heart Theory,' almost two months ago and she did it with a 24 hour livestream that had guests from every single time zone. If that doesn't indicate her love for her fans, I don't know what will. Lindsay's story is one of perseverance and passion. Her success was not overnight. She made her trek to Nashville, from her native Canada, about a decade ago and has been working ever since. It was a few years of trial and error before Lindsay met Kristian Bush, best known for his time in Sugarland. He produced her debut album and not only helped her find her voice, but also gave her the confidence to be vulnerable. We talk a lot about that process and how important it is not to be afraid to tell your story. We also dive into the world of social media, which Lindsay is super active on. I hope you love this conversation as much as I do. https://www.instagram.com/stpierreonair/ (Follow me on Instagram) https://open.spotify.com/album/4pTPkB7BSDqZboqQYbx7iF?si=u4CzGWz-SCKur9gL8WZKaQ (Listen to Lindsay's 'Heart Theory' Album) https://www.instagram.com/lindsayell/ (Follow Lindsay on Instagram) https://www.instagram.com/bemorewellpodcast/ (Follow Be More Well on Instagram) https://twitter.com/bemorewell (Follow Be More Well on Twitter)

Our guest this episode is Kristian Bush, one half of the Grammy winning country duo, Sugarland. Kristian was such a great hang and a fun story teller. 2020 has seen Kristian working on what he's best known for as well as re-releasing the long-though lost album by his 90s band, Billy Pilgrim. And, his band Dark Water along with his younger brother Brandon, has been releasing and working on new material over the last year. He recently sang My Prerogative in a Couch Riffs performance video, as well. We had a great time speaking with him and hope that you enjoy this conversation as much as we did. We were cut a little short by a fire call, unfortunately. If you enjoy the Couch Riffs Podcast and/or the videos we are producing please consider supporting us with a monthly pledge of as little as .99/month! You can do that HERE at anchor.fm/couch-riffs. Also, don't forget to visit couchriffs.com to find a hub for all things Couch Riffs: videos, podcasts, and a link to our Etsy Store where you can pick up a 100% Couch Riffs t-shirt or stylish trucker hat. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/couch-riffs/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/couch-riffs/support

Bush and Hyra chat from a Nashville studio Two decades ago, Kristian Bush (Sugarland, Dark Water) and Andrew Hyra shared some moderate success as Billy Pilgrim with songs featured in Melrose Place, My So-Called Life, and many more. They had recorded a third album that was thought to be lost after the master tapes burned in a fire at the studio near Decatur, GA. Fortunately, one copy remained and nearly 500 CDs were pressed and sold at their final concert together in Atlanta in 2001. Both artists went their separate ways, and didn't speak for 15 years, but never officially disbanded either. Fast forward to 2020 and a worldwide pandemic where Bush had more time on his hands. It's when he discovered a lone copy of In The Time Machine, after cleaning out his home. The album was released on September 4th and Bush and Hyra spoke with us from a Nashville studio -- you'll have to listen to hear why they're in the studio. We not only talk about the album, but we also discuss Sugarland's new music and upcoming tour plans. Check out our other Podcasts! Subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts, TuneIn and YouTube.

We had a great conversation with Kristian Bush (1/2 of Sugarland) on The Chris & Sandy Show. We talked about so many things from family, music, sacrifices, he told us some amazing stories plus a whole lot more! He has an incredible story. Click the play button to listen to the podcast!

Get Exclusive Pop Culture Show video interviews, video content and bonus video exclusively from our Instagram. Sign up for our Pop Cult and be the first to get show announcements, free stuff and insider information only available to cult members.Speaker 1 (00:00):Welcome to the Pop Culture Show with Barnes, Leslie, and Cubby. Barnes (00:04):For those listening around the world just joining us, welcome to Barnes, Leslie and Cubby. By the way, if you're just joining us, you might want to go backwards. Some pretty incredible guests over the last couple of weeks and we've had a lot of fun, Kristian Bush from Sugarland, Lisa Loeb, Butch Walker, Goldberg, who all of a sudden a lot of wrestling people just found out he was on, they're showing up, Joe Gatto, from Impractical Jokers, Air Supply's Russell Hitchcock, Collective Soul's Ed Roland. A lot of shows, wherever you get your podcasts. Today, we have Dr. Oz. Dr. Oz. Leslie (00:36):That's a big guest. Barnes (00:38):I like him. Cubby (00:38):Do we have to wear a mask during this interview or are we okay with that? Barnes (00:42):We have to wear a mask. Please rate, review, and subscribe. Dr. Oz will be coming up in just a little bit. You can catch us on the iHeartRadio app, the Pandora app, Tesla's Buicks now, right Cubby? Cubby (00:52):Yeah. Barnes (00:53):We're going strong? Cubby (00:53):Going strong and Buicks and Lime Green Pacer's. Barnes (00:57):You guys have a good week? Leslie (00:58):Had a great week. Cubby, we never had a chance to tell you about the weekend. Barnes and his beautiful wife Heather we're here. Cubby (01:06):I know. I really was missing out. Tell me how big your farm is, by the way, because you talked about your farm. Barnes (01:11):It's big. Cubby (01:11):It's big, right? Leslie (01:12):Yeah, 40 acres. We came out here for a couple of nights. Barnes, Cubby, you have no idea how dedicated he is to this show. Cubby (01:22):It's work, work, work all the time, I'm guessing. Leslie (01:24):Well, there were a couple of days where I was like, "Yeah, let's go out. You can pet the horse and stuff like that. Barnes diligently sitting in my living room editing this podcast for the Pop Culture Show the whole day. Barnes (01:38):I was editing promos, Fram, and someone's got to do it. Cubby (01:42):Why couldn't you wait till you got home and enjoy your time with Leslie, Barnes? Barnes (01:45):I did enjoy my time with Leslie. Oh, I would, Cubby, but Leslie was on conference calls the entire time we were there. Cubby (01:50):Leslie, are you serious? Are you ... Barnes (01:53):Call a spade a spade. Cubby (01:54):Are you really on Zoom calls all day, because you say that and ... Leslie (01:56):I am. Cubby (01:57):... I don't believe it. Leslie (01:58):I'm on all day. Barnes (01:58):[crosstalk 00:01:58] Okay. Here we go. Here's an example ... Leslie (01:59):There's was an emergency. Barnes (02:00):No way Leslie. No. No. No. Cubby (02:02):Reenact it right now. Barnes (02:03):Hold on. They are like, "Let's go to lunch." We're going to go to Kentucky for lunch and we're in Tennessee, mind you. I'm thinking, "Oh gosh, how am I going to get any of this work done?" Then Lanny goes, "Oh, well, Leslie, why don't you write into Tesla so you can see what this whole autodrive thing is about, and Heather will come with me." I'm like, "Okay." Fram gets in within 30 seconds she's on a conference call, "I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I got to take this. I'm sorry," the whole way. I couldn't even show her. I just put the car on autodrive and I tuned out and Leslie was like, "What do you have for lunch?" Leslie (02:37):He wanted to show me all the bells and whistles and yeah. Cubby (02:40):But I love it how most people are just nose deep in their phone. But you're just always on calls, Leslie, you're not really on your ... some people will stare at their phone and just swipe and do all that. Leslie (02:50):Right. Right. Cubby (02:51):You're literally on calls all day. Barnes (02:53):All day. Leslie (02:53):I will say that Heather and I went into this really cool antique place because Heather knows all about antiques. Barnes (02:58):For a fricking hour. Leslie (03:00):They stayed in the car, Lanny and Barnes stayed in the car. We were like, "You know what? I'm not going to stress out about this." We were in there for hour, hour and a half. Barnes (03:08):Lanny took a nap. I was running my phone battery down. At one point, I looked over and said something to Lanny, and he was asleep. Cubby (03:13):Did the Tesla autodrive follow a mysterious car out of nowhere in honor of Fram ... Barnes (03:19):No. It did not. Cubby (03:19):... like we talked about last week? I got to tell you, my wife heard that story. We were listening back to the podcast and she was crying. Leslie (03:26):It's true story Barnes (03:27):Well, Fram, she paid attention for just a few seconds. Can you talk about autodrive, Fram? What do you remember? Leslie (03:32):I just remember watching your dash. It was very impressive. Barnes (03:36):She was taking pictures of it and it was almost ... it was the car was a celebrity. She was taking pictures of the screen as it was driving us through Nashville. It's fun. Cubby (03:46):I do have a quick Tesla question by the way. Barnes (03:48):Yes, sir. Cubby (03:51):Because I'm really thinking about getting one because if you ... Barnes (03:51):Use my code. Cubby (03:51):I know, I will when I get to it. If I have the air conditioning blowing full blast and I'm charging a phone and my wife's charging her phone. Does that make the battery go quicker? Barnes (04:00):Go down? Cubby (04:01):Yeah, go down quicker, say, I'm on a long road trip and I'm using a lot of other things? Barnes (04:05):Minimal. Cubby (04:06):Minimal. Okay. Barnes (04:06):I turn the AC. if I go into eat lunch somewhere, I immediately turn the AC on as soon as they get out and let it stay on. Cubby (04:12):Right. Barnes (04:13):I mean, it doesn't even go down a percent. Cubby (04:15):You have what? What's your model again? Barnes (04:16):The 3. Cubby (04:17):The 3. Barnes (04:18):The Model 3 is four-package. You got to ride in it. You'll be convinced. Leslie (04:21):Plugged, no. Cubby (04:22):Yeah. Yeah. Plugged, no. Leslie (04:23):Well, needless to say, Cubby. We had a great time. Barnes (04:26):The farm is incredible. It's 40 acres. I'm not convinced she's seen more than one of those acres, where the actual house is because I'm just feeling ... because we went driving around in this truck that is a standard, the old-school truck, it seemed an old movie or something. Leslie sat in the back, might as well have been on a hay bale. Leslie (04:49):I sat in the back with Heather. Barnes (04:51):I could have sworn I heard her say a few times. I haven't seen this part yet. Leslie (04:53):I did not say that. I did not say that. Barnes (04:58):I don't know. It was just funny because Lanny runs the how. Lanny is a workhorse. Leslie (05:02):Yeah, he does on the show. Barnes (05:03):I mean ... Cubby (05:04):Can he name all the animals? By the way, how many animals do you have? Leslie (05:05):Only three. Cubby (05:07):Three. Barnes (05:07):Four, you got Bo. Leslie (05:08):Yeah. Well, I'm talking about outdoor. Barnes (05:11):Yeah. Leslie (05:11):Two donkeys and a horse. But I will say that Barnes did do some aerial shots for us. Barnes (05:17):I did. Have you gotten that bill yet, that invoice that come in? Leslie (05:20):Exactly. Cubby (05:22):Is your drone business ... Are you're going to be firing back up pretty soon you think? Barnes (05:26):We've been going strong the whole time. It's all commercial real estate. Cubby (05:29):Okay. Good. Good. I was wondering about that. Barnes (05:31):Nothing about that. Thanks for asking. It's been nonstop because of no one will travel. I mean, no one wants to travel. All these big developments now more than ever need stuff Cubby (05:40):Right. Barnes (05:40):Did you lose power this week, Cubby? Cubby (05:42):No. The only thing I did as I took our daughter, she's seven months old, me and the wife took her to the beach and she felt the ocean for the first time. Barnes (05:48):That's cool. Cubby (05:48):But I just want to real quick ask you guys. It was a great moment. We video taped the water. Barnes (05:52):Is it screened? Cubby (05:53):No. She loved it. She loved it. But my thought is how much I hate the beach. Because I think the beach, there's pool people and there's beach people, and I get it, the beach is beautiful. But isn't the beach a pain in the butt? Leslie (06:04):Yeah, I'm a pool person. Barnes (06:05):I'm pool people. Cubby (06:06):Yeah. There's so much too ... You have to lug so much crap. You have to set up. You have to find a spot. It was a windy day. There's sand blowing. You can't get your lunch. I mean it's just, I don't know why people love the beach so much. I've discovered that I really don't like the beach. Barnes (06:21):It is all the things you say. But the people that love it, they just ... I think that they are people that don't care about getting dirty or getting sand in their food. Leslie (06:31):I like walking on the beach, but laying out in the sun, no. Give me a float up bar anytime. Cubby (06:36):Correct. Correct. Yeah. Barnes (06:38):What's weird is, you mentioned your child, when my child who's now 18, we took her to the beach for the first time, she screamed in fear because of the water hitting her. She's checking into college this Tuesday for marine biology. Leslie (06:50):That's incredible. Cubby (06:52):Look at that. That's great. Barnes (06:53):Right, full turn. That'll be my Tuesday going down to check her in. We only get two-hour window. She has two other roommates and they tell you, "You're 9 to 11, you're 11 to 1, you're 1 to 3." Cubby (07:04):By the way, how quickly did she turn 18? Because everyone tells me how fast. Barnes (07:07):Eighteen years? Cubby (07:08):Well, yeah, okay, I get that. But everyone tells me how fast it goes. I'm only seven months into this and it's flying by. Now I get why people say they're going to be 12 before you know it. Barnes (07:17):So fast. Cubby (07:18):Yeah. It's crazy, right? Leslie (07:19):You got to catch all the little things at seven months, seriously. The next three years, you're going to be in fantasy land. Cubby (07:25):Right. It's a nonstop. Barnes (07:26):Okay. I've gotten blown up so far. We're seven minutes in. Leslie's gotten blown up so far. We have a listener question that might take care of the third. It said, "Hey, Barnes, Leslie, Cubby, do you ever have any outtakes that you don't share with us?" Cubby (07:40):Oh, gosh. Leslie (07:41):Uh-oh. Barnes (07:42):I thought, "Well, you know what? Yeah? Leslie (07:44):Man. Barnes (07:45):There was one last week. Leslie (07:46):The man who takes everything. Cubby (07:49):Well, wait, wait, wait a minute. Who are the crosshairs on? Barnes (07:52):That would be you. Cubby (07:53):Great. Okay. Barnes (07:55):Last week ... Now of course, a podcast is a taped show. We taped the show. There's very little editing, but there is a mastering process that makes it. You can actually hear us. We're all three in different locations, New York, Nashville, Atlanta. Sometimes there are segments when I'm editing that I take it out for the purpose. I do it for you, the people, the listener, so you cannot have to listen to stuff that you don't need to. However, I do save those things. Some people suggest that we maybe get a Patreon account where people can hear the unedited version of the show, which there's probably another good 10 to 15 minutes of content that maybe wasn't meant for the show or it can be a little racy or can be a little whatever. Leslie (08:41):Not a bad idea. Cubby (08:41):Right. Barnes (08:43):Last week we had a segment talking about, I believe it was ... Cubby you're playing clips of some sort from which ... what was that? Where were you playing clips from? Cubby (08:56):Was I doing ... Barnes (08:57):[crosstalk 00:08:57] I know. We're doing Netflix. Cubby (08:58):We're doing Netflix. Yeah. The Netflix thing. Yeah. Barnes (09:01):It was the Netflix thing. Cubby (09:01):Yeah. Barnes (09:01):You heard how it played out and you can go the last episode. It was very, "Hey, here's ... this is the Netflix sound and here's what it was supposed to be." Leslie (09:10):Yeah. The original ... Yes. Cubby (09:10):Yeah. The whole ta-dum. Barnes (09:11):Yeah. Cubby (09:12):We're talking about the different sounds that Netflix was considering and before the ta-dum took effect. Barnes (09:17):Here's how that segment played out. Unedited, so you can just hear what it's really like. Cubby (09:24):One of the sounds. I want you to see if you know which one it is. Is it A? Speaker 5 (09:31):Ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats. The show is about to begin. Cubby (09:36):All right. Or is it B? Hold on a second. Where is it? Or is it B? Or is it C? Shit. Or is it C? Speaker 5 (10:00):Ladies and ... Cubby (10:00):Here we go. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Fuck you guys. Or is it C? Barnes (10:12):That's it we're back live. Cubby (10:16):Hey, can we play the DropLabs outtake? That was a half hour, I'll take. Your dumb shoes wouldn't get working because you did not hook them up. Barnes (10:23):There's nothing funny about that Cubby. Cubby (10:27):I will say you did a great job cleaning me up, because I listen back to that. Yeah. I had things all out of order on my computer and it was crazy. Barnes (10:35):But listen, the DropLabs was not my problem, it's your headphones. Cubby (10:37):No. I know. I know. But I remember we were trying to get it to work properly. Barnes (10:41):We don't take attention off of you, Cubby. It is your moment. Leslie (10:42):Notice how he immediately ... come on, Cubby. You're the star of this segment. Barnes (10:47):Yeah. Cubby (10:47):I bow down to you, Steve, thank you for being the edit master. Barnes (10:50):But didn't you see? Did you see how that escalated? We now know with Cubby you get about four times to frustrate them and then it's full on "F you guys." I mean, just ... Cubby (10:59):I wasn't really mad though. I was saying, jokingly, I know what you guys are thinking, man. Leslie (11:03):Was that a dearing? What? Cubby (11:03):Yes. Leslie (11:06):That was a dearing F you? Cubby (11:07):Because I knew you guys were like, "Come on, man. You're holding us down." I felt like the quarterback and I messed up a play. Leslie (11:11):Wait a second. Is that why you spent eight hours editing the show last week, Barnes? Barnes (11:15):No. Whenever it makes me laugh ... When I'm editing it, I just thought, "Okay, you know what? Companies do to get a little roasting because he throws out the roasts quite a bit. Cubby (11:26):Yeah. Well, that was fun. That was fun. Well, hopefully this will be an edit-free podcast for you. Leslie (11:33):Well, let's dive into some celebrity sleeve on ... Oh, there's an [inaudible 00:11:37]. Barnes (11:37):I don't even ... Hold it. I don't even have to edit this one. Cubby (11:43):Just keep editing there, celebrity sleeves. Barnes (11:45):Say again. See, ladies and gentlemen, you just witnessed ... Cubby (11:47):I have short sleeves on. Barnes (11:48):You just witnessed right there. There we go. There's the edit. Leslie (11:53):Hell no. Barnes (11:53):There is your first little snafu of the show that happened in real time. Cubby (11:57):You put pressure on us though, Barnes. Leslie (11:58):We're not even having a drink right now. Cubby (12:00):We should. Barnes (12:01):Maybe. Well, we know that two of us aren't. I can't see your hands, Fram. I'm just saying. Cubby (12:06):Celebrity sleeves. Barnes (12:07):Try that again. Leslie (12:07):Let's dive ... Barnes (12:08):Take two. Leslie (12:10):Let's dive into some Celebrity Sleaze. Okay. I know that Netflix, we have a lot of stories about Netflix today. But have you guys been watching anything new on Netflix? Barnes (12:21):Absolutely. Leslie (12:21):What? Barnes (12:22):I went through the whole Outer Banks, which Heather and I both loved. I know it's geared towards young adults, but we actually liked it. Cubby (12:30):It's a reboot, right? Barnes (12:31):No. Cubby (12:32):Outer Banks? Barnes (12:32):I'm joking. Last week, everything was a reboot. Well, there's more. It's really good. Leslie (12:39):I will start today because Charles Esten, who's the star, will be on our show next week. Barnes (12:44):He is the star. He's the really main adult, and he's good. He's really good. He's from Nashville. I like the show, Nashville. Leslie (12:52):Yeah. He was Deacon in Nashville, beloved character, and I will say one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Barnes (12:58):Can't wait to talk to him. I have a lot of questions. You both ... do yourself a favor and watch Outer Banks. I'm also watching Bloodline. Leslie (13:04):Yeah, I saw Bloodline. I'll give you some news when you finish. Barnes (13:07):I'm only three episodes in. Leslie (13:09):Okay. But I have some news for you when you finish. A couple of heavy things I want to get out of the way, in Celebrity Sleaze. Obviously, you saw the news, Lori Loughlin and her husband, Fashion Designer, Mossimo, I can't pronounce his last name, were sentenced to two and five months in jail for the college admissions scandal. What happened there? Because originally wasn't he supposed to get four to five years? Barnes (13:32):I don't know. Why did he get more than she did? Leslie (13:34):I guess he paid more. Cubby (13:35):Yeah. I don't know the whole thing. But it's a country club they're going to, guys. Barnes (13:39):Oh, yeah. Cubby (13:40):I mean ... Leslie (13:40):Seriously. Barnes (13:41):In fact, he's not going to be doing hard time. Cubby (13:43):Look, I would not want to be in there. Don't get me wrong. But they're probably not going to be in there the full-term, I'm guessing. It looks like a country club. Leslie (13:49):Yeah. Their apology was very well scripted, too. Barnes (13:51):If she's smart, she would make that a reality show because that's the only work she's going to get. Leslie (13:56):Potentially. Now the other news is, are you ever a little skeptical when you see a headline from a celebrity, where it's like, "I buried my truth for so long?" You know that something's about to happen. They have a book coming out or ... Barnes (14:09):Correct. Leslie (14:09):In this case, it's Paris Hilton and her new documentary. This is Paris, which is going to be September 14, premiering on her YouTube channel. I mean, if this is true, I feel really sorry for her. But the timing is a little skeptical. She was talking about ... and this is the other part of the story where you don't feel sorry for her. Remember when she was growing up, she lived at the Waldorf with her parents. She talked about sneaking out at night and how terrible it was because her parents took her phone away and her credit cards. Then they sent her off to this boarding school and apparently she's saying, the entire time she was at this boarding school, she was bullied and harassed and tortured. Now that school doesn't exist anymore, and no one can verify this. Although a couple of people that went there said the same thing. We'll see. I don't know if you saw this story or you have any thoughts about it. Barnes (14:58):I saw the trailer and I don't know what it is. She's done something to herself. She looks much prettier than she did in the height of all this craziness, where I think she was maybe having some work done. I don't know that. Leslie (15:07):Yeah. Barnes (15:07):But she looks very natural and very depressed. Leslie (15:11):Though she says that she's all grown up now and she wants to tell her story. Cubby (15:15):I can't believe how long it's been to. Was it 15 ... Leslie (15:17):It's been a long ... Barnes (15:18):... 15 years ago when the nude pictures are coming out ... Leslie (15:20):Yes. Barnes (15:20):Long time. Cubby (15:21):... all that stuff? Twenty years ago? Leslie (15:22):This is really sad. The headlines about Larry king's two children dying within three weeks of each other. He's like, "It's terrible. When you're a parent, you have to outlive your children." But his son, Andy King died of a heart attack. He was 65. His daughter Chaia King, 51, sadly died. She had lung cancer. Is that terrible, two of his children within a matter of three weeks? Cubby (15:45):Really sad. Leslie (15:47):I do need some clarification here from the two of you. How do you pronounce this word? It's throuple, throuple? Barnes (15:54):Throuple. Leslie (15:55):Throuple, like couple? Barnes (15:58):Throuple. Leslie (15:58):But throuple like a three-some, right? Barnes (16:00):You're talking about John Mayer, right? Leslie (16:01):Yeah, the John Mayer story. Barnes (16:02):Throuple. That's the first I've seen that word in a while. Leslie (16:04):Well, apparently the star of Vanderpump Rules, Scheana Shay claims that, yeah, this went on for a really long time. Stacie the bartender from the Hills started going to John's house where a fling started and it went on for about six months. Barnes (16:20):He had just discarded Jennifer Aniston and he went that far down? Leslie (16:23):Right after Jennifer Aniston. Hello. Barnes (16:25):That must have been when he covered the song Free Fallin, too, from Petty. Because he took ... what a lofty journey that is to go from Jennifer Aniston in your bed to a bartender of the Hills. Cubby (16:36):Right? Barnes (16:38):Damn. Cubby (16:39):That's a big drop, right? Barnes (16:40):Bro. Cubby (16:40):Yeah. Leslie (16:41):Dancing with the Stars apparently having a hard time booking some guests. A lot of people are saying ever since they let go of Tom Bergeron and Erin Andrews and I brought on Tyra Banks because they thought Tyra is going to bring in all these major celebrities. Guess what? It hasn't happened yet. Barnes (16:58):Why would they think that? Since when is she the major celebrity getter? Leslie (17:01):I guess because she's high fashion, she would bring all these major models and I have no idea. But so far, it's still C and D level folks. Cubby (17:12):But that's what that shows made of. Leslie (17:13):I know. Cubby (17:13):It's been trending that ... No. But actually, I'll admit, early on, they had some pretty big names. I feel it's been trending downward for the last five, six years. I think that makes the show better. Well, if you haven't heard of them? Barnes (17:24):No. You've heard of them. But they're in random ... Okay, think of all the ... if you had ... I'm just turning like Beaver from Leave It to Beaver. Cubby (17:31):No. I get that. You haven't seen them in a while. Right. Right. Right. I do like those. They had Mrs. Brady on before she passed away, Florence Henderson. That was fun. Leslie (17:38):I mean, I've had a couple of friends that have been on that show. Honestly, they said they had a blast doing it. But a lot of times I have no idea who the people are. I have to Google who they are Cubby (17:47):Correct. Leslie (17:48):Will Smith, Kevin Hart are going to remake Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. Cubby (17:53):I don't like it. Don't mess with the original, man. Barnes (17:55):That's a tough one. Leslie (17:55):Come on. John Candy, that's tough, and Steve Martin. I don't know. By the way, Simon Cowell is back home, after he cracked his back. But did you see the photos of Dax Shepherd? He had this big motorcycle accident. He was showing all his bruises on Instagram. Oh, severe. I don't know about this. Tiger King, season two is in the works, because Joe Exotic is in jail, but he's the star of it? Cubby (18:19):I know but it's brilliant because you might as well just keep feeding off what's already successful, try to figure something out. Barnes (18:25):Well, there's been a story for the last six months. It's been happening. The story was season one. All this mayhem happening. Now they closed the zoo down. Leslie (18:33):Yeah, I think Petty got to the zoo, because Jeff Lowe announced that Tiger King Zoo is closed immediately. Cubby (18:39):When I hear about the Tiger King, I think about the pandemic only because that was the first thing people started talking about when the pandemic started. Does that sound familiar? Barnes (18:48):They can think the pandemic. Cubby (18:49):Yeah. Yeah. I remember it was March and people were talking about, "If, hey, if we're going to be stuck at home watch Tiger King." That always reminds me of the beginning of this whole thing. Leslie (18:57):Finally, who knew that Ryan Reynolds had a gin company? But apparently, Aviation Gin is being bought by this British multinational beverage alcohol company, Diageo. He might walk away with $265 million. Barnes (19:13):He was apologizing for that. He has a gin company. Remember, Fram, recently, he had that girl that got all the heat from the Peloton ad do his ad. Cubby (19:24):Right. Leslie (19:24):That's right. Cubby (19:24):That was about a year ago. Barnes (19:25):Eish. Yeah. Leslie (19:26):Who these celebrities with their liquors. I mean, it's pretty insane. They're saying it's a $600 million deal and his portion could be 275. That's a good payday for Ryan Reynolds. Barnes (19:39):That really is ... Leslie (19:39):That's your Celebrity Sleaze. Barnes (19:42):Guys, I was doing some research because a friend of mine is a big fan of Limp Bizkit, and we were going back and forth about Limp Bizkit just being, like I said, Limp Bizkit's okay. They all were, "Oh, no, they were huge. He was huge, blah, blah, blah, blah." Cubby (19:56):For a minute. Barnes (19:57):For a minute, right. I did some research on bands that have had huge success, but for the most part, people hate them. I want you to know if you agree with any of these. Limp Bizkit, ironically, was number 10 on the list, followed by Fish at number nine. But I get ... Cubby (20:16):I don't get the Fish thing. Leslie (20:17):I don't either. That was just a mellow jam band. Barnes (20:20):I mean I could see where either you like or you don't like the Fish, but they don't seem like a hated band, probably some of the ones coming on your list. Leslie (20:27):Like Fred Durst. Cubby (20:28):Right. Exactly. Train came in at number eight. Again ... Barnes (20:31):Why Train? Cubby (20:32):These are bands that have had huge success, but a majority of people really think they're douchebags. Leslie (20:37):I didn't ... Barnes (20:37):Train is number eight. Leslie (20:40):I didn't get that one. Yeah. Cubby (20:40):Creed is number seven. Barnes (20:40):Now that's a slam dunk. Leslie (20:46):Wait a minute. They're not number one? Cubby (20:46):We're getting there. Barnes (20:46):Well, I bet I can already guess where this is going. Leslie (20:48):Like seven ... Creed should be in the top five. Cubby (20:51):Well, the funny thing is, I think everybody I'm mentioning here, we've interviewed, and we might have a relationship with a Dave Matthews Band came in number six. Barnes (20:59):How? Why do people hate ... Is there any context in these articles, in these lists about why they're hated? Cubby (21:05):It all comes down to either their look, for example, Goo Goo Dolls is number five and people think they're perfectly manicured men. Their songs are sappy. Leslie (21:16):I don't get it about Dave Matthews Band. Cubby (21:18):Number four, now I love this guy, super good dude, Mark McGrath and his band Sugar Ray. Barnes (21:25):I can see why they hate him. He's such a nice guy. It's easy to hate people who are succeeding. I mean, he's had a decent career and a few things. Cubby (21:33):Yeah. Right now he's a jock on SiriusXM, I believe. He does a show there. But number three, I could care less about, Insane Clown Posse. Barnes (21:41):How that get on the list? Cubby (21:41):Yeah. Barnes (21:41):That seems a random one. Cubby (21:45):Because, yeah, I agree because the list is that they are very successful. Now, I know they had an Ok one. Leslie (21:50):Yeah. They had a cult following, too. Cubby (21:52):Finally, we're down to number two. Leslie (21:54):Uh-oh. Leslie (21:54):(singing) Leslie (21:55):Oh, yeah. It's natural. Cubby (22:00):Again ... Leslie (22:01):Guilty Pleasure. Cubby (22:02):They've had a ton of hits? Leslie (22:03):I know. Cubby (22:03):But the list is people that we're huge, but we don't like them anyway. Can we say number one together? Because we're all thinking it all. Leslie (22:10):One, two, three, and then say it. Barnes (22:13):You say it and I play it. Ready? Hosts (22:15):One, two, three. Nickelback. Barnes (22:21):Here is exhibit 3,475. It is torture, this song. Listen to this. They redid The Devil Went Down to Georgia. Listen how awful this is. I mean. What the hell is that? Barnes (22:41):(singing) Barnes (22:41):You wonder ... Cubby (22:45):They did have huge hits. This was their first hit right here. Cubby (22:49):(singing) Leslie (22:49):That was massive. Barnes (22:52):I don't mind that song. Barnes (22:53):(singing) Cubby (22:56):But all their songs did end up sounding the same, for the most part after that. Barnes (23:01):Good list. Cubby (23:01):Yeah. Barnes (23:02):I have some music for you. Here's a couple of new things this week to be on the lookout for that are going to be ... one of them is going to be taking over TikTok. Everyone's going to be started using it to make TikToks, how smart to make a song called TikTok? Barnes (23:17):(singing) Barnes (23:18):Catchy. Leslie (23:21):It is. Barnes (23:23):Clean Bandit and Mabelle with 24kGoldn. Cubby (23:26):I like Clean Bandit. Barnes (23:28):Another new one. I love this band. I love everything they put out. They are from Las Vegas. The album is called Imploding the Mirage, which I thought was interesting because immediately I was thinking about all the casinos that they've imploded in Vegas, their hometown. But I don't think the Mirage was one of them. But the Killers have a brand new album. Barnes (23:47):(singing) Barnes (23:49):I just love his voice. Cubby (23:54):Yeah. He's good. Barnes (23:54):Totally. Then here's one. We can't let ... Baha Banks$ has a new one with Chance the Rapper. We can't not play Shake That Ass. Barnes (24:05):(singing) Barnes (24:07):Everyone stays ... Check out Chance the Rapper. He's rapping about my car. Listen. Barnes (24:14):(singing) Leslie (24:14):Uh-oh. Is your Tesla plugged? Barnes (24:21):Yeah. There's you're new Music Bank. Cubby (24:24):Well, guys, you always give me a hard time for not bringing in big time guests. I had to, well, pull out the big guns and so Barnes, Leslie, let me introduce you to my buddy, my pal, the nicest guy in the world and a very smart man, Dr. Oz. Dr. Oz (24:42):Well, God bless you Cubby. Barnes (24:42):Hey Doc. Dr. Oz (24:44):How are you all? Barnes (24:44):We're huge fan. Leslie (24:45):We're so excited. Dr. Oz (24:46):I'm so impressed that Cubby looks well rested with a baby in the house. I don't know. How does that work even? I could never pull that off. Cubby (24:53):I don't know. It's amazing. It's life-changing. I think the adrenaline actually every day keeps you going and ... Barnes (25:00):Hold on. Dr. Oz, The important thing is this is pre, his Jager shots. He does it 5:00. Is that healthy? Let's ask the man. Dr. Oz (25:08):I do a Jager shot every day at 5:00 p.m. Actually, sometimes more than one. Leslie (25:12):True story, Dr. Oz. Dr. Oz (25:14):Well, I'll tell you when my kids were young, I would sign up for extra on call at the hospital, because at least I could get a little sleep there. Cubby (25:20):You're right. I know. I know. Yeah. I don't sleep much. But it's all worth it. Again, thank you for joining us. These are my podcast pals Barnes and Leslie, and we just have a few questions for you. I want to catch up and you've been a busy man, I'm sure. I mean, everyone wants to talk to you about COVID-19, correct? Dr. Oz (25:38):Right. It's been busy six months of my life. It's also been frustrating at times, and exhilarating at others, because one of the problems you run into oftentimes in life is that you have inadequate information. As a doctor, you often got to go talk to a patient when you don't know 100% what the right decision is because there's no data on it. That's how this entire six months is often felt. We have some directionally correct ideas, but we ended up changing our minds and lot of other issues like masks. That's been very frustrating for the public. But, you're right. I'm getting called a lot just to try to offer advice that I give to my own family, because at this point, that's the most valuable advice. Barnes (26:12):Dr. Oz How do you even have time in the day? This is an honest question from being a publisher of books, a man of television, an actual doctor, an actual surgeon, how do you find time to actually practice surgery and medicine? Dr. Oz (26:28):Well, I've always dedicated one day a week that I go to the hospital, participate in our grand rounds, do procedures, see patients. In fact, right now I'm studying for my boards, because every five years you have to get re-up to make sure you're staying up-to-date in health information. But I also have great partners at the hospital. Now, as you know, I'm at Columbia University in New York Presbyterian Hospital here in the city. It's easy for me to go to the studio a couple days a week, and then just, instead of turning right to go downtown and go turn left to go uptown to the hospital, and the routine has always maintained me. Dr. Oz (27:02):I got to say, early on when I was talking Oprah about where to tape the show, one of the reasons you wanted to be in New York so I could keep practicing because I felt that ideally, we'd be ... putting in television. what I do every day taking care of patients, if I could just take that same, in honesty, and just translate it to your home, then you'd actually be able to learn a lot about what your doctors wants to tell you, but doesn't have time to tell you. It makes you a smarter patient. In fact, it makes you a world expert on your own body, which you really should be. Leslie (27:31):Dr. Oz, there's been so many questions about testing for COVID-19. A lot of the people that are listening now, I am really curious about the false negatives that are happening. You broke it down. I follow you on Instagram and Twitter, you broke it down. How is that happening? If you do get a negative test, but still have the symptoms, should you go back and be retested? It's so confusing. Dr. Oz (27:53):Well, let me simplify a little bit by entering the second part of that question with affirmative. Yes, you have to go get tested again if you have symptoms. If you're coughing, and having a fever, or feeling lethargy, or having intestinal problems, and you have a negative test, you still have to suspect COVID-19, go get tested again. Here's why. Until recently, a lot of the tests required you to put the little probe that the Q-Tip with the very back of your nose. The cotton swab is uncomfortable. I don't know if you guys have been tested, but I get tested at the hospital, your eyes water. It's not very pleasant. To take it easy on you, instead of leaving that cotton swab back there for 10 seconds, which is the official protocol, they just get near it. Well, that's not the same thing. Dr. Oz (28:35):If I'm swabbing the outside of your nose versus deep inside your nose where it feels it's in your brain. You may not pick up the virus which is primarily to back your throat. That's why this recent information, which I want to thank the NBA and their Commissioner Adam Silver for, because they participated in examining this. The CDC has just approved a saliva tests. The reason that's important is you don't just spit a little bit of stuff, you actually collect sputum from the back of your throat deep in your lungs, and go, like that, right? Spit it into this cup. That's actually a very accurate way of getting it. It's not perfect. But getting a sample of sputum that's pretty stable can be tested the next day or the day after. You'll learn very quickly if you're positive or negative. Because you know that it's not uncomfortable, you don't mind doing it a lot. Barnes (29:21):Amen. Dr. Oz (29:21):Most people now agreed, the better way of screening America is to do lots of tests and assume the first one may not be perfect, but if you do two tests, one of them is going to be right. Cubby (29:31):What is your biggest concern Dr. Oz, fall going into winter? What is your biggest concern with this? Are we in the first wave still, or the second wave, and no one really knows Barnes (29:40):Is it halftime? Cubby (29:41):Right. Dr. Oz (29:43):it's about halftime, actually. But we're still in the first wave. You're still in the first half. We saw ... What happened in New York spread to the south. Actually, many times it was New Yorkers literally going to the south and carrying the virus with them, maybe not the Arizona, and that allowed the virus to continue to prosper when it shouldn't have. My biggest concern, to answer your first question, is nihilism, is this belief we're never going to get ahead of this, it's going to keep haunting us, it's going b torturing us. There's so many positive bits of information that it makes me feel pretty confident that we're going to be able to whip this in a timely fashion. Dr. Oz (30:13):Here they are. Ready? First off, the recent data from Europe, about a third of us may have what are called killer T-cells. Our immune system is made up of antibodies. You all know about those. They're little foot soldiers ready to attack the virus. But you also have these memory cells, these T-cells in your body. If you had the common cold last year, the year before, your body may have recalled that a corona virus causes the common cold, oftentimes, and it's close enough to the current COVID-19 virus that you're actually protected. That means, think about this, a third of the population may not be prone to getting the bad infection or infected at all. Then you have in places like New York City, where I am, you got a 20% incidents, maybe people have already been infected, that gets you about 50% of the population. Now you're approaching herd immunity numbers. It means the second wave won't be as bad as we would otherwise have feared. Dr. Oz (30:59):Second big Information, 70% of Americans ... are you wearing a mask? A mask is a big ... although early on, didn't appreciate how powerful it was. We now recognize. I spoke into the COVID taskforce, the White House Task Force on this. All these experts are saying the same thing, the mask tames this virus. It makes it behave like the flu instead of COVID-19. That's why we're seeing a dramatic reduction in cases in the south now and across the country. Dr. Oz (31:24):All these are positives. We have weapons we can use, like the mask, we've got general biology supporting us, and then there's few other factors. Our medical management has dramatically improved. Only half the number of people go to the ICU is used to in the early days of COVID-19, and then finally the vaccine. Which all the early data supporting its efficacy, so we think it's going to work. We'll have a lot of data probably by November, December giving people confidence that we can actually mass vaccinate people, if they want to get vaccinated, no one's going to force you. But if you want to get vaccinated and be part of the herd immunity to protect America, you can get your vaccine. We're going to have to wait till January, February probably to do that because you want you give enough months of tens of thousands of people experiencing the vaccine to make sure it's safe that the average American, the average person listening to your show right now can say, "You know what? I get it. It works and it seems to be safe enough. Nothing is perfect. But it's safe enough. I'm going to go ahead and get it." Barnes (32:14):What do you think, Dr. Oz, though the conversation centering around this vaccine that at some point will be here, you're going to find companies and places just like they're requiring mask? Don't you think were they're going to say, "Look, if you're going to come back to work, you have to have the vaccine." But then that opens up the conversation politically. It opens up the safety conversation, all of this starts going sideways. How do you think everyone's going to react to that and work through it? Dr. Oz (32:40):I think forcing people to get a vaccine will be a horrible error. Barnes (32:44):People are going to. Dr. Oz (32:46):There may be some, but as to your point you made, energetically, it changes the entire equation. The argument needs to be here's the five reasons that you don't want to get the vaccine, and here are the five reasons that those arguments are wrong, just deal with it head on. Face-to-face, because you talk through it, and some people will never change their mind. But most people I have found will, as long as you actually confront the arguments that are being made without ... behind the scenes, often on social media that scares people and convinces people it's unwise. Dr. Oz (33:20):By the way, we got to get the data. I'm not just going to pretend that I know it's safe. We don't know that yet. Let's see what the data shows over different age groups, different genders, different races, African-Americans are very resistant to vaccines and these therapies because there's a history of African-Americans being used in experiments, and they weren't consented into. There's hesitation. Let's just deal with those issues. Get it out there. Then people who want to get vaccinated, they can. Dr. Oz (33:43):But let me go through the numbers here. You need about 60% to 70% of people protected one way or the other in order to have herd immunity. You don't have to have 100% of people get vaccinated. It will be nice if the vaccine is safe and effective for that to happen. But the 100% is a hard number. But if most people get vaccinated, or they've been exposed and did ... say, recovered or they have past years exposure to the common cold, and protected from that, then we'll cobble together a coalition of people who won't get the virus. That's how we'll create barriers. Dr. Oz (34:13):I would emphasize for people who are vulnerable, older people, people chronic conditions like obesity, diabetes, hypertension, people in nursing homes, they really ought to get the vaccine. If it works for them, we have to prove it. It could be a game-changer because those people aren't getting sick. Remember 95% of the people went to the hospital were those category of people, then the rest of us don't have that big a deal with the virus. Young people don't seem to have a big problem. I'm not going to bang my head into the wall vaccinating every five-year-old in America. Leslie (34:41):What about with flu season coming up? Because there's some people who never take a flu shot, but now coupled with COVID-19, what's your recommendation on that, because it's worrying a lot of people? Dr. Oz (34:52):Well, the flu shots have been around for a long time. I've gotten 20 years worth of flu shots. I don't think the danger is a massive issue. There are some people still they're going to be hesitant, I get that. But for the average American, that's low-lying fruit. I think getting the flu vaccine means that if you get a fever lethargy, in the middle of December, you won't be fearful it's actually COVID-19. You won't be going through all the extra testing. You won't be worried about side-effects, or lying on your back for two or three weeks. I think this might be the good year to get your flu vaccine. A lot of facilities are going to start offering it early, so that you can get ... first in line and get protected. Cubby (35:26):See, my fear is going back to later this year is a bad collision between COVID-19 spiking and a bad flu season, because that could ultimately fill hospitals up. Is that a concern? Dr. Oz (35:39):Very much of a concern. For the flu is not a benign process. We probably have 30, 40,000 people a year die. Last year the more children died of the flu than died of COVID-19. It's not a benign process. You're marching the war with the army you've got. We have a vaccine for the flu, take it. Removed that is one of the problems that might land you on your back for a week. Again, I do it anyway because I'm in the hospital. I don't want to give patients who are already sick the flu. But think about that for your own families. If you can protect yourself, you guys are all good. Once this eases up a little bit more, you guys are exposed to a lot of people. You're in media. Why take a chance? I mean you can continue to enjoy your job, keep entertain your fan base, and keep your family safe all at the same time by getting, at least, I, helping that process, by getting a flu shot I will take it. Barnes (36:30):What's weird now, and my wife is guilty of this, every time anything hurts, I've got coronavirus. I need to go get ... You know what I mean? There are other things that make you ... Dr. Oz (36:40):That happened to me last week. It was three days in a row I was more tired than usual, all day long. I thought, "Oh my god, I got to bed." Barnes (36:45):It's in your head? Dr. Oz (36:46):Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Barnes (36:46):Everyone thinks, "Oh, I've got coronavirus." I mean, it just keeps happening. You can get sick from other things. I mean, come on. Dr. Oz (36:54):It messes with your head. I think this is a bigger theme in America. A lot of people are scared and you don't want to go through life in fear. It's not a good way to make decisions. This is not just about COVID-19. In life in general, you don't want to make decisions with a pure emotional driver of fear, because we're better than that. We're strong enough to do it differently. Yeah. You're fatigued for three days could be COVID-19. But it's probably not. Cubby (37:17):Right. Barnes (37:18):What's the biggest question you get besides COVID-19, obviously, from when you're ... because you're such a people person? When people engage with you, what do they ask you? Cubby (37:26):Actually, can I chime in on that, Barnes? Barnes (37:28):Yeah. Cubby (37:28):Because before COVID-19, I would ask Oz about hemorrhoids and stuff. I got hemorrhoid, what do I do? Things have totally changed in the last six months. Dr. Oz (37:36):Well, the number one question I still get is, "What does Cubby really like?" Cubby (37:40):Shut up. Leslie (37:41):I ask that often. Barnes (37:42):It's hemorrhoids and you're Meister Dr. Oz (37:45):Exactly. Barnes (37:45):It's easy. Dr. Oz (37:46):It's all right here. Cubby (37:46):But that isn't the question, Barnes. What question do you get the most probably outside of COVID? Dr. Oz (37:50):What can I do to live my best life, to be able to thrive in a world where I don't seem to have any control? I always people, "Listen, part of the reason I went into health is because the only person who can control your health is you." Interestingly, it applies to COVID-19. But everything is, well, one of the best ways to avoid complications of COVID-19 is to lose weight, which, Cubby, I'm done beautifully. You'd have lots of people who don't appreciate how much resilience they truly have. They also don't appreciate the importance of us to each other. Because what's been the safety net for humanity is each other, is us. Dr. Oz (38:27):We're designed to be intimate social creatures. Our brain got the size they are, not to go hunting. You'd go hunting with a walnut-sized brain. We have a large prefrontal cortex. We can look at each other and assess visual cues. But even equally importantly, auditory cues are hugely important. The subtle timbre of your voice, how you said things, rather than what you said, that's why music is so important to us. What you do is so critical, because people are hearing you and processing all kinds of subtle elements that you may not even know you're conveying, but it's truthfully there. I tell people remember, you're like a raindrop falling into the ocean of humanity. Never forget that you have huge power if we do it in numbers. Leslie (39:05):I love the health tips that you give. One thing I did want to ask you, because Barnes and Cubby gave me a hard time about this a couple of weeks ago. I bought this thing on Amazon. It's a WeFit, and it's this gallon water jug. It has little inspirational sayings every two hours starting at 7:00 a.m. to force me to drink water because I would never drink water during the day. Now I'm drinking a gallon a day. What is your recommendation on drinking water? Is that too much, a gallon a day that I'm drinking? Dr. Oz (39:35):But my daughter has what you have. I was giving her a hard time about it because I said, "The amount of water you drink really does depend on how much you sweat and how much you exercise." The general rule of thumb is you should be able to read through your urine. You should be hydrated well enough that when you pee, it's relatively clear. If you ... Don't actually do this, by the way, Cubby, so literal. Cubby (39:57):I was trying. You got a book? I had Judy Blume's Superfudge ready to go. Dr. Oz (40:02):Yes. Exactly. I get Mad Magazine. Reading through Mad Magazine through your urine, right, like getting a wet, that's the kind of ... but that's actually the best test now. There's no harm with doing a gallon a day. But you don't have to have a gallon a day and it might be the three-quarters of nowadays fine for you. If you look down your urine is dark color, Coca-Cola colored or darker than that golden yellow, then you're not hydrated well enough. Barnes (40:24):I have that same jug but I filled it with Diet Coke. Is a gallon a Diet Coke too much a day, Dr. Oz? Dr. Oz (40:30):So bad. I have strong feelings about diet sodas. There's no free lunch. I guess, here's the problem with diet sodas. The artificial sweeteners in there are several hundred times sweeter than sugar. They've never been shown to help you diet. Quite the opposite. They are linked to chronic metabolic illnesses, not probably because of the drink itself, but because people who are drinking it are prone to those problems. But your brain is so smart, that it's looking for nutrients. Cubby (40:54):He's drinking a Diet Coke as you're talking about. Leslie (40:56):I know. I just saw that. Dr. Oz (40:58):I saw. I could see it. I mean, I know you're describing it for the listener. But it's embarrassing. Yeah. Get a screenshot of that. Barnes (41:03):Okay. Well, is iced tea the same? Dr. Oz (41:06):No. Real drinks with a real sugar, I feel are better than diets drink. If you have iced tea with it ... But think about this, how much sugar do you need to put in a drink? If normally the soft drinks have a teaspoon per cc, per ounce, there's a lot of sugar. If you just put a one full teaspoon of sugar into a tea, it will taste sweet enough, and that's 16 calories. It's not 130 or 160 calories. It's 13 calories or 15 calories is not much. Barnes (41:39):I need to stop. Dr. Oz (41:39):Yeah. [crosstalk 00:41:40] easier way to go. Cubby (41:41):I had an issue like Barnes. I had Diet Coke all the time, four or five a day. I switched to seltzer. I still get that fizz feeling and a little bit of flavor. But it's healthy. It's zero, zero, zero all across the board here. Barnes (41:53):I need to stop. I need to stop. Dr. Oz (41:55):Yeah. They have these flavored fizzy drinks now which I like, too. I think you're right Cubby. That's the way to do it. You tickle your tongue, which is a lot of the soft drink beverage experience is about. You don't need all those artificial tastes in there. Then, if you want sugar, add sugar. Barnes (42:08):Yeah. I can see I got confronted by Dr. Oz. I've got to put down ... why'd you stop drinking Dr. Coke ... Dr. Coke ... Diet Coke, because Dr. Ross said so. Dr. Oz, when all this hysteria, and I mean your career started when Oprah put you to the forefront, did you ever think ... I mean, were you targeting that, or did you just end up in it? When you started your media career, and in your enterprise, and then you met Oprah? I don't know how you met Oprah. But then she really started cheerleading you. You were a guest, what, 500 times or something on her show? Did you think it would ever be this type of thing? Dr. Oz (42:47):Not only did I not think it was possible. It wasn't on my vision board. I hazard to say that if I had desired that career media, it would not have worked with Oprah. I'll tell you very briefly how this all came down. It was my wife's, by the way, like many relationships. I will just put my shoulder to the millstone, where we're working in the salt mine of New York, Presbyterian Columbia. I go to work every morning, operating all day, and come home exhausted. My wife was after a while sick and tired of my whining about the fact that so many of my patients could have avoided the need for me to heal them with steel, literally taking a bandsaw to their chest to open up to do heart surgery. If only they had understood a few basic tips about general health, losing weight, dealing with their diabetes, managing their blood pressure, all these things we talked about the show all the time. Dr. Oz (43:35):In the course of that, she said, "Why don't we make sure together," because my wife is ... remember those Visine commercials, the bloodshot eyes? Leslie (43:40):Yeah. Dr. Oz (43:41):Those are my wife's eyes. She understood the power of media. She understood the remarkable ability of you guys to change people's minds. She said, "Let's going to make the show." I made I made a show for Discovery Channel. It was a series actually of 13 episodes called Second Opinion. My wife produced them. My first guest, Oprah Winfrey. She came on because Gayle King was just a wonderful human being said, "Oprah, what this guy's trying to do is important. Give him a time of day. You're going to be in New York, and whatever day it was, just let him have half an hour, 20 minutes even." She's already in hair and makeup to get her own magazine cover taken. We ended up talking for hours. We really hit it off. She's a great teacher, a great educator, not just for America, but for me. We call Oprah University. Dr. Oz (44:25):Those of us who are privileged to work on her show with her that she's shared stuff with you. For example, as a doctor, I figured if I gave you the facts, you're going to change, obviously. I'm telling you to stop smoking, you can have heart attack, you will stop smoking. Wrong. It doesn't work in personal life, doesn't work in medicine, or anywhere else. Dr. Oz (44:42):Oprah said, and she's right, "People do not change based on what they know. They change based on how they feel," Get people to feel differently about stopping cigarettes or whatever the problem is, wearing a mask for COVID. They feel differently about it, then they'll do it. That was the beginning of my years working with her. Then she launched me on my career because Parker Lee [inaudible 00:45:03] conspired, and said, "Listen, you have the ability to make a show, I'll support you. But you got to go out there and tell everyone as honestly as you can stuff that they're not hearing from the healthcare system now. America is not taking care of themselves, because we haven't given them the advice in a way that empowers them." That was the birth of the show. Dr. Oz (45:20):I think, although, maybe not ... looking back at it years later, you guys know but I got a Hollywood star this month. I mean, that happens and it's like a dream. I'm pinching myself, because it was never ... no heart surgeon wants to get a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. celebrate. I can Cubby (45:34):Where's it located? Dr. Oz (45:36):It's in Hollywood. I don't know where it is yet. We haven't ... COVID-19 I can't celebrate. Barnes (45:40):[crosstalk 00:45:40] even a see star. Dr. Oz (45:40):I wanted to know the exact treat, so I can get a picture. Cubby (45:44):But nobody's want to do that. Dr. Oz (45:45):You're coming. Leslie (45:46):Dr. Oz. I didn't realize this until this morning that you are on TikTok. Has Dr. Oz is on TikTok, when did that start? Dr. Oz (45:56):Well, my show was in China and my show is in 100 countries. China, the parent company of TikTok is called Daojin. I've got hundreds of thousands of followers on that portal. The trend to across over the TickTok was pretty straightforward. TikTok is wonderful if you want to get the message out without a lot of ads to a younger generation, and they actually care a lot about health. Dr. Oz (46:19):People care about health four times in their life, when they go through puberty, that's why the TikTok generation cares about it, when they go through menopause, that's why the show works because every woman from 35 to 60 thinks she's in menopause, and many times they are, when you're going through a health crisis, and when you're pregnant. Those are the four times you care. Pretty much throughout your life, there are opportunities for people to come into the health arena and then go back out again. Twenty-five-year-old men don't care about health unless it's related to sports. You've got to find your way to talk to them about health. Dr. Oz (46:47):But there's a huge audience that are experiencing health issues in their lives. It's not bad, critical illnesses, things ... puberty is not an illness. But crazy things are happening to your body. You want to understand them. I think a TikTok on how to take care of a pimple, and by don't pop them. Now, there's a whole strategy for doing this, then you'll watch. Cubby (47:07):Now listen, Dr. Oz, I want to ask you a quick a quick question. You made me feel a lot better. My daughter was born on January 27th. You're one of the first people to text me. I said, "Everything is great. My daughter is healthy, but she was born with a cleft palate." You wrote back, "Easy fix," and that made me feel a lot better. The surgery is planned in a couple of months. For those who don't know, a cleft palate, you can't see it visually, unless you look inside the mouth on the roof of her mouth. You can see her nasal passages if you look in the roof of her mouth. But it's not a cleft lip or anything. It's in the inside. My question is, I've read about it, I still don't understand how they repair a cleft palate. Is it skin graft? Do you even know that answer? I know you know everything. Dr. Oz (47:52):Yeah. It depends on how wide it is. There's sometimes you do use skin grafts. But oftentimes you can mobilize the tissue well enough just to close it. Remember, the only reason that you have to fix a cleft palate is so that it helps with phonation, to be able to pronounce the letters of the alphabet more effectively. She'll speak without an impairment. People have cleft lips, which is more severe version of this condition, there's a significant cosmetic element that you need to fix as well, and that's a bit more dicey. Dr. Oz (48:23):But what your daughter is going to go through is not nearly as challenging. I also want to emphasize that you don't do it too early because you don't do anything to a young baby. You just want to do it before they start making words, so she'll never know the difference. Cubby (48:35):Yeah. The problem is she can't ... the bottle she can't suck because she doesn't have that suction ability with no roof of her mouth. We have to help her with bottles and stuff like that. But it's comforting to know that it's an easy fix, because it's scary, really ... Barnes (48:48):That is scary. Dr. Oz (48:49):Every child is born with little things you don't know about, and you just discover them, and it's ... everyone gets worried about it because moms feel the child is the fifth limb. They're especially. Then nothing happens to that child without you viscerally feeling it. Thankfully, I think oftentimes the most dangerous thing for the child is the anxiety of the parents, not the actual problem the child is facing. That's the one thing we really dealt well with in medicine is being to manage these kinds of common problems. Barnes (49:15):Dr. Oz, I'm a huge fan of yours, as I mentioned at the beginning, and with fame comes tough territory sometimes. I mean, I know that you are a big entity now. But when you get these other doctors and other people trashing you just because you've had fame as a doctor beyond just the operating room and on television and books, is that tough to deal with? I mean, these guys ... everyone's got a tear everyone down who has success. I think you give great information. I'm not a doctor. I don't know what you're saying is completely accurate because I don't know. I trust you and you're a trusting guy. Dr. Oz (49:53):It comes with the territory. Listen, I divide people in two categories. There are folks that are attacking you because they're embittered about something that has nothing to do with me. I hear it, of course, it hurts. But I don't think at the heart. Then there are people who say things sometimes quite harsh, where they got a point. You got to differentiate those two. To blindly think that I got everything figured out and everyone's criticizing me is jealous is a big error. Respecting the one, the opinions, and differentiating the opinions that are said for positive benefit to me is an important point. We spent a lot of time in the show doing just that, identifying which are the messages that are being sent to us that we got to really respond to, because this person making a great argument about why shouldn't be saying X, Y, Z. Those the ones I listen to. Dr. Oz (50:39):Listen, if you're in the public eye, you better be responsive to the public. Because if you're ignoring what people are observing about you, sometimes it's not even that I'm saying the wrong things. I'm saying it in the wrong way. If I'm misspeaking about something, I need to address that because people get the wrong impression of what the truth is, and it's still my fault for not making it clear enough. Barnes (50:58):It just seems like other doctors Just dissect and look for one little thing that you say that they can grandstand on just in the end trying to get their own publicity. It's just a weird thing. Dr. Oz (51:08):You know what? I tell you, if they weren't paid attention that will be worse. I'd much rather argue about whether the vaccine is safe or not, than never have a discussion. In America, what liberal democratic society is built on is our ability to tell the truth to each other. They not always get along but still be okay about that. That's what the American tribe is about. We built this nation on our ability to speak sometimes with harshness towards each other. Dr. Oz (51:35):Listen, in the hospital, every Thursday my hospital, we have what's called M&M conference. I do it after every show as well. It's morbidity and mortality conference. M&M. We're supposed to go in there and explain why our patient died. Now, if it's not my fault, does the patient's family care? Not really. Does the next patient's family care? Not really. They want to know what you do differently, so doesn't happen again. The questions that are asked are not kind, soft, cuddly questions. But then I ask in the questions to hurt me, they're asking the questions to debate what was the right thing to do, because you won't figure out how to improve what you're doing otherwise. This is the most sensitive thing about making my show. Dr. Oz (52:13):When I go back up to the control room afterwards, and we have everyone around me, and we're saying, "Okay, what could we have done better?" Sometimes I should be more complimentary because I've got a team I'm so proud of that really protects me and does a great job making entertaining television that's educational. But there's almost always something we could have done better. It's sometimes it's me. I didn't ask the question the right way. You didn't write the question the right way. We logged meeting at the camera angle, the demonstration didn't explode with enough exuberance, whatever it could be. We talked about that. Usually there's something we could have done better. Remember it next time around we improve. Leslie (52:47):Dr. Oz, you do have a lot going on. But at the end of the day, what do you do to unwind? I mean, are you binging on a Netflix show? What does Dr. Oz do to really unwind and take a deep breath at the end of the day? Dr. Oz (53:02):Well, it actually starts the beginning of the day. My morning is very regimented. I get up and I work out and actually relax when I work out, because I watch something that I like to ... I'm watching the Last Kingdom right now, is an example. But whatever you happen to ... I look forward to getting up and working out in the morning. Then about an hour after I've started working out, whatever ... I have a whole different bunch of things I do, but I finished working out and I just feel like my whole day is wide open in front of me. I also know and I see bright light in the morni

Get Exclusive Pop Culture Show video interviews, video content and bonus video exclusively from our Instagram. Sign up for our Pop Cult and be the first to get show announcements, free stuff and insider information only available to cult members.Watch the Droplabs Shoe experience segment here.Speaker 1 (00:00):Welcome to the Pop Culture Show with Barnes, Leslie and Cubby. Barnes (00:04):This is the severely damaged Pop Culture Show. Barnes, Leslie, Cubby on location in Framnash Vegas. Cubby (00:14):Love that, I'm a little jealous though because I am not there, I am in Bryant Cubby Jersey, New Jersey. Barnes (00:22):And we're all having cocktails, so who knows what's going to happen in this show. Cubby (00:26):Yes. Barnes (00:26):And Cubby's how many Jägers in? Cubby (00:28):Five, six maybe? A couple Jäger shots. Leslie (00:29):Are you serious? Cubby (00:30):Yeah, come on man. Barnes (00:31):Are you really? Leslie (00:32):So Cubby, just to say, I haven't seen Barnes in person since the reunion show. Barnes (00:37):The 99X Reunion about a year and three quarters ago? Leslie (00:41):Yeah, so here we are. Barnes (00:41):We are, cheers, cheers. Cubby (00:42):It feels like 1995 all over again, doesn't it? Barnes (00:45):Totally. And Leslie drinking, I mean we should probably put about 15 disclaimers on this show right now because I don't know what's going to happen. So, please rate and review and subscribe our little show. Our guest today, now all of a sudden we're Grammy winners every week. Kristian Bush from the band Sugarland among others, he's got about 57 different bands and one of them is Billy Pilgrim and they have a brand new release coming out, but it's not really that new. It's an interesting story, you're going to love it, so he's coming up. Leslie (01:17):Such a good guy. Cubby (01:18):We've got Bush, I hear his last name I think of Revenge of the Nerds, you know that one. Barnes (01:23):What are the odds that we have a guest two weeks in a row that have both won Grammys and both have songs called Stay. Leslie (01:30):Oh, that's true. Cubby (01:31):Wow, look at that, that's digging deep. And you know what, I got to tell you, we're really raising the bar each week, it's crazy. Barnes (01:36):We are. Cubby (01:37):Yeah. Barnes (01:37):And you know what, let's raise it again. Next week, someone who does not do podcasts, Dr. Oz. Cubby (01:43):All your COVID questions. Leslie (01:44):That's huge. Barnes (01:46):That is going to be awesome. Leslie (01:48):That is huge that he's on our show. Cubby (01:49):He's a good dude and I've had the honor of interviewing him several times and he is the best and I can't wait for him to join us next week. Barnes (01:56):As Cubby says, we're the little show that could. Cubby (01:59):We are, we really are. Barnes (02:00):We're just a little show that could. Cubby (02:01):We're three people doing the work of ten for the good of millions. Barnes (02:04):Yeah, we have a staff of 70 that backs us up. No, we have a staff of nothing. Cubby (02:10):You didn't tell people where we could be heard, you always mention that. Barnes (02:13):I was getting to that. Cubby (02:14):Okay, go ahead. Barnes (02:15):I was getting to that. Cubby, we can be heard on iHeartRadio's app and I've been hearing commercials for the Pop Culture Show which is cool on there. Cubby (02:21):Yup. Barnes (02:22):And also in Teslas and by the way if you're buying a Tesla, use my code, you'll get a thousand free miles. Cubby (02:28):No way, what is your code? Barnes (02:29):Yeah. Leslie (02:29):What? How does this happen? Barnes (02:30):Well, just hit me up on social ... it's just when anyone who has a Tesla, if you use their referral, they'll give you a thousand Supercharger miles and then you get a thousand and those come in handy. I use them to get here. Leslie (02:42):The Tesla's outside my front door. Barnes (02:44):You know who bought one? Mark Wohlers, Atlanta Braves All Star just bought a Tesla. He called me yesterday when he was ordering it, "Hey dude, what's your code?" And then I got a thousand miles. Cubby (02:55):I want one so bad, I'm already sold, I'm sold. Barnes (02:58):And where else are we besides Turks and Caicos, anywhere else? Cubby (03:03):Honduras? No, Japan. Leslie (03:05):Guatemala. Cubby (03:06):Guatemala, worldwide. Barnes (03:08):Worldwide. Cubby (03:09):Yeah, worldwide, come on. Barnes (03:10):We were charting in Japan, but then I don't know what happened. We went from 38 to like 150. Cubby (03:16):Why did we spike and then go down and then spike? Barnes (03:18):I don't know. Leslie (03:18):How we're doing in Canada? Barnes (03:19):Canada? We're in the 200s. They don't get us, like most people. Cubby (03:24):Right. Barnes (03:24):They're right in there. So Kristian Bush is coming up, Dr. Oz next week and we want to get into our How Was Your Week segment and I've got something. I want to go last because it's going to involve trying something. Leslie's going to try something of mine and we're going to all witness it live. Leslie (03:45):Cubby, I have no idea what I'm getting myself into. Cubby (03:47):Yeah. Barnes (03:47):You do because you see it and you've been asking a lot of questions and I'm not giving her any information, so we'll get to that in a few minutes. Cubby (03:53):And I mentioned how I wanted to be there, now I'm glad I'm not there. First I had FOMO about you guys being together in Nashville. Barnes (03:59):Why? Cubby (03:59):Well, I don't know what's going to happen or what Leslie's about to try on. Barnes (04:01):Oh, it's good, it's going to be fun. Cubby (04:04):All right. Barnes (04:04):I hope she reacts. I don't know what her verbal reaction will be, but. Leslie (04:10):Who knows after a glass of wine. Barnes (04:12):I can't wait to see it. Leslie (04:13):It'll be severe. Barnes (04:13):How was your week Fram? Leslie (04:15):So I had a little bit of a space out moment and I think it's because- Barnes (04:19):This is every week, Fram. Leslie (04:20):I have a feeling it's from too many Zoom calls. Cubby, I'm on Zoom calls all day as you know. Cubby (04:25):I know. Leslie (04:26):From 8, 9 AM until 6 or 7 at night, so. Barnes (04:28):She's a multimedia executive. Leslie (04:30):So the other day I had a one hour break and my husband was like, "Can you go with me, I've got to pick up," He has an old farm truck that was getting work done, "Can you go with me, follow me back home?" I'm like, "Absolutely." So I take him, long story short we get to the place, he picks up his keys, I'm like, "All right, I'll follow you back to the house." I'm following this white, old white truck, I'm in his car, we're going down the road, I'm following him, I'm following him, I'm following him. He takes a left so I'm like, "What street's he taking a left on at some neighborhood, some random neighborhood? Maybe he's going to somebody's house to pick something up?" Leslie (05:11):I go down the street, the car stops in the driveway of this house, I pull off on the side of the road and this woman gets out of the car and looking at me like, "Why the hell are you following me?" I realize that I'm following her. Barnes (05:25):Oh no. Leslie (05:28):I think I'm following a black SUV which is my car. Barnes (05:32):Oh my gosh, this is so Fram. Cubby (05:35):That is great. Leslie (05:36):She's looking at me like, "Are you here to rob me or something?" I'm like, "Oh my god." So, I start the car and act like I don't know why I stopped on the side of the road, I hit some dead end street so then I go down another street not familiar with dead end street. Now I'm going like, "Lenny's probably freaking out wondering where the hell is she?" And so I'm heading back to the farm, he doesn't have his phone, I'm like, "He's really going to be worried about me, I don't know what to do." This is like 20 minutes after I followed him. Finally I get halfway there, he is now coming the opposite way looking for me. Barnes (06:13):Oh my gosh. Cubby (06:15):You can't make this up. Leslie (06:18):Waving, waving, I'm okay. I can't it make up, so long story short, I just spaced out and was following the wrong car. Barnes (06:23):Fram what happens? Where is the disconnect? Leslie (06:26):I don't know. Cubby (06:26):Were you just paying attention to the color? Barnes (06:28):Were you on the phone? Leslie (06:30):I thought I was following my car instead of following his car. And again, some poor random lady is wondering why the hell I'm following her and stopping in front of her house. Cubby (06:39):Yeah. Barnes (06:39):Leslie, this is a trend. This is not just something out of the blue, this happens for 30 years. Leslie (06:44):I'm getting worried about myself. Cubby (06:46):Yeah, I mean it really is concerning actually. I mean, we should probably unplug her mic, to be honest with you. Leslie (06:51):Cubby, I need some of that Jägermeister you're drinking every day. Cubby (06:54):Yes. Barnes (06:54):Keep sipping that wine because you're going to need it in a few minutes Fram, I'll just tell you that. Wait until we get to me. Cubby (07:00):I can't top that story, man. I'm not even going to play in this game, that is funny. Barnes (07:05):Cubby, you've got nothing? Cubby (07:06):No. Barnes (07:06):I'll give you one, Cubby's such a dick to me. Cubby (07:10):Shut up. Leslie (07:10):What? Barnes (07:11):He says that I call him too much. Cubby (07:12):No, you've calmed down since I said that, but no, there are so many things that you could text and everything's got to be a call. I mean, you can just text it. Barnes (07:22):No, because I'm really not a phone talker. Cubby (07:23):No, you are, you're the only one. Barnes (07:25):But I'm really not, only you. Because it's show related and I feel like I don't want to type a soliloquy into my text and so I call. Cubby (07:33):Look, I agree, sometimes you need the phone just to get right to the point and talk it out, but a lot of your calls could easily have been a text. Barnes (07:40):Here's how it goes, I dial, here's Cubby, "Hello?" Leslie (07:45):Cubby, I need to ask you a question though. Cubby (07:47):Please. Leslie (07:48):Are you a little intimidated by Barnes? Barnes (07:51):For what? Leslie (07:52):Because with Barnes texts me and I don't get right back to him because I'm on a million Zoom calls a day, I'll go like, "Hey, let me call you back when I have a break." Barnes (08:02):Keep drinking. Leslie (08:02):Because I know, I know that he is like, "Where is she, why is she not calling me back, why is she not texting me back, why is she not calling me back?" Barnes (08:10):Keep drinking. Cubby (08:11):You're a hundred percent right, Leslie and even though Barnes is our friend, it's almost like a boss. Leslie (08:17):It is, it is hardcore. Barnes (08:19):So then this week my phone rings and I look down it says Cubby and I have this really funny picture for Cubby and I'm like, "Oh, now he wants to talk." Cubby (08:28):Right, yeah. Barnes (08:28):And then I pick it up he goes, "I know, I just want to know, can you give me some mic recommendations and I need some chair recommendations and a desk recommendation. And how do I plug in these headphones to the speaker?" I'm his personal Apple Genius. Cubby (08:42):Leslie, have you noticed Barnes is not very warm on text? Leslie (08:45):It's short. Cubby (08:46):It's very short, there's never- Barnes (08:47):You're welcome. Cubby (08:48):... never an emoji, not even a smiley face. Barnes (08:51):I give you the fist all the time. Cubby (08:53):Yeah, you do, you get the fist and then the pound I like that. Leslie (08:54):Did you like my little gifs that I send? Cubby (08:56):Yeah. Leslie (08:58):I'm trying to do funny gifs and I know Barnes hates that. Barnes (09:01):Okay, you're the two people with a real job and you have time for emojis. Leslie (09:06):Hey, I like my- Barnes (09:07):I just float around. Leslie (09:08):I like my Bitmoji. Barnes (09:09):Wow. Leslie (09:10):I think it looks cute. Cubby (09:11):Yeah, right. Barnes (09:11):So how was your week, Cubby? Cubby (09:14):You know what, it was much better than last week because you remember we had the tropical storm up here and so this week we were back to normal, normal work week. I will admit, I'm a lit nervous, I've got some butterflies in my stomach because my wife and I are taking our first road trip with our six-month-old baby. We're taking a six hour trip to Virginia Beach, Virginia, my home town and I'm not going to lie, I'm nervous about how it's going to go. I know the baby sleeps well in the car, but I know she's not going to sleep for six hours straight. I don't want any meltdowns, I want to be prepared, I want the wife to be happy, I'm worried about this trip. Barnes (09:46):If I was your wife, I'd be more concerned about you than the baby. Cubby (09:49):She said that actually, she said, "You're worrying more than me." And I even talked about this on the radio show and people said worry more when they're two or three years old because that's when it becomes are we there yet and you got to entertain them and all that. But she's six months old, she's probably just going to be chilling most of it, so I'm okay with it, but I don't know why, I'm just nervous about this whole weekend and everything. Leslie (10:11):I think you're going to be fine, I think you might need like a little DVD player for yourself. Cubby (10:15):As I'm driving? Leslie (10:16):Yeah. Barnes (10:16):You can sit in the back with the baby as you're driving. That would be fantastic. Cubby (10:22):So yeah, I'm looking forward to that, but guys, I mean I'm just excited that this show is really just moving along here. We are really getting some great numbers and some great feedback and I'm just very happy to be a part of this show, I'm really having a blast. Barnes (10:35):You're going to make me cry now, Cubby, gosh. Cubby (10:37):No, I really am having fun. I was very hesitant about doing this, but of course Barnes with that whole philosophy of scaring the shit of you, I'm like, "All right, all right, I guess I'll do it." Barnes (10:47):What the hell? Cubby (10:50):But I'm glad I said yes. Barnes (10:51):Okay, let's get into my week because it's about Leslie. Cubby (10:55):All right. Barnes (10:56):This week I got a gift. I got some new shoes and I love cool shoes. We talk about shoes sometimes a lot. I got what's called DropLabs and we're filming this segment also so we can put it on our social so you can see what's about to happen. These shoes are- Leslie (11:17):Big. Barnes (11:18):Well, these are mine, they're a size 12 and a half. Leslie (11:20):And I'm an 8. Barnes (11:22):And female which what about a 6 in male? They're going to look like clown shoes on Leslie, but the fashion statement is not what matters. They're black, black shoes, good looking shoes. Leslie (11:31):I like black shoes, yeah. Barnes (11:33):And what they have in them completely electronic soles that have technology that connect to your Bluetooth headphones and give you an entire body experience when you listen to music. Cubby (11:48):Oh my gosh. Barnes (11:49):And it's almost like wearing two subwoofers on your feet but more. Cubby (11:55):How long have these been available? Barnes (11:56):They just came out. Cubby (11:58):They just came out. Barnes (11:58):It's called DropLabs. Cubby (12:00):Never heard of it. Leslie (12:00):Have you done this? Barnes (12:01):It's the EP 01. Yeah, these are my shoes. Leslie (12:03):So what happened when you tried it? Barnes (12:05):I absolutely love it. Leslie (12:07):Okay, so here we go. Barnes (12:09):I purposefully have not done this, so I'm going to turn these on, look Cubby, you can describe what's happening. Cubby (12:14):Okay. Barnes (12:14):You see on the back? Cubby (12:16):Yeah, it's like a button, is that a button? Barnes (12:18):Yeah. Cubby (12:19):Yeah. Barnes (12:19):So I'm going to turn the shoe on. Cubby (12:21):On the heel of the shoe there's a button and now it's lighting up. Barnes (12:23):Yeah, so there's one shoe. Fram? Cubby (12:25):Is that the Bluetooth connecting or something? Barnes (12:27):I guess, yeah, everything's connected together. Leslie (12:29):Wow. This is really actually cool. So do you want me to. Barnes (12:32):Put on it on here, you don't have to tie, just put your feet in them. Leslie (12:35):That's the left? Okay. Cubby (12:36):If you wear them in the rain, will you die? Barnes (12:39):No. Cubby (12:40):Okay. Leslie (12:40):Thanks Cubby. Barnes (12:41):Yeah, you will survive. Leslie (12:44):All right, I have the left foot on. Barnes (12:47):All right, let me get the right one turned on. Put that on. Leslie (12:50):Okay. Barnes (12:50):I'm getting excited just thinking about what's ... okay, so- Cubby (12:53):So what is she going to experience again? Leslie (12:54):I have no idea. Barnes (12:55):Leslie, you're going to have to take those headphones off and you're not going to be able to hear Cubby. Leslie (13:00):All right. Barnes (13:01):But you're going to put these on. I just hope it doesn't start before. Cubby (13:04):Wait, are her feet, are they going to vibrate like she's at a concert? I don't understand. Barnes (13:09):So right now it looks like she's wearing clown shoes because she's got my size 12 and a halfs on. Cubby (13:16):Right, right. Barnes (13:16):And so you have the headphones on. Leslie (13:18):Are they on? Barnes (13:19):Yeah. So, we're filming this again so you can see the reaction. Now, I've got her headphones connected to my system, so let me just make sure. Yeah, it's on. Leslie (13:32):I just want to make sure. Barnes (13:33):Now, Leslie, I don't know if you're going to get the whole experience right out the gate, I think you might, so just tell us what happens. I don't know because you might just hear the headphones first, I have to make sure that I have it turned on correctly. Cubby (13:46):What kind of music you're playing? Barnes (13:46):I think I'm going to play Jack White. Leslie (13:49):Oh yes. Barnes (13:50):Let's do Seven Nation. Leslie (13:52):Yeah, Seven Nation Army. Barnes (13:53):Yeah. Cubby (13:53):Well here's my question real quick, does it matter if it ... will she get more of an effect if it's a bass-y song or does it really matter? Barnes (13:58):That's got a lot going on. Cubby (14:00):Okay. Barnes (14:00):Did you hear music right then? Leslie (14:01):Yeah, I heard the first and that was it. Barnes (14:04):Can I turn it up loud, you're good? Leslie (14:06):Yeah. Barnes (14:06):Okay, now watch her face, I'm about to turn the shoes on, hang tight. Leslie (14:10):It's happening. Cubby (14:17):Now Leslie can you hear me? Barnes (14:18):Do you feel it? Cubby (14:19):What's happening? Leslie (14:19):Yeah. Barnes (14:20):She can't hear you, hold on, let's let her- Leslie (14:22):This is amazing. Barnes (14:23):What's that? Tell people what's happening. Leslie (14:26):You can actually feel it through your entire body. Cubby (14:30):Oh my gosh. Leslie (14:31):I mean, this is amazing. Barnes (14:34):It sounds like Jack White is in the room underneath us and the whole band is playing. Leslie (14:38):You can feel the pulsation, it's almost like somebody's drumming on my feet and it's going through my whole body. Barnes (14:47):She's bouncing, you can see her bouncing in the chair. Leslie (14:49):This is really cool. Barnes (14:50):Now how insane is that? Leslie (14:52):I love it. Barnes (14:53):I knew you would love it. Here, let me give you another- Leslie (14:57):Okay. Barnes (14:57):... let me give you another song so you can feel some bass. Leslie (15:01):Cubby, you have to try this. Barnes (15:02):It's unbelievable. Leslie (15:03):It's incredible. Barnes (15:04):Here's some Dave Matthews, try this. Leslie (15:05):Okay, oh yeah. Barnes (15:09):Cubby, it's like wearing subwoofers as shoes. Cubby (15:13):Almost like the band, like you said, is rehearsing in a room next to you or below you. That's actually really cool. Leslie (15:18):Do you think that people are going to take this to like clubs and stuff? Barnes (15:20):Well, so think of it as concerts, think about it's called DropLabs, droplabs.com. And also gamers, so what was that game you played where you killed the people because you're violent? What's that game? Leslie (15:34):Mortal Kombat? Cubby (15:35):No, I got into Grand Theft Auto, yeah, Grand Theft Auto. Barnes (15:38):You'll be able to feel people walking up next to you in the shoes. Cubby (15:42):Can you ask the retail value? Leslie (15:44):This is amazing. Barnes (15:45):You have to go to the website, I don't know the exact cost. Cubby (15:48):Okay. Barnes (15:49):You can pull it up. Droplabs.com if you have a computer. Cubby (15:53):You're a great salesperson. Leslie (15:54):You feel it immediately. Barnes (15:54):No I'm saying you, I mean you can get your answer. I don't know, I don't have a computer in front of me, I have all hands in use right now. Leslie (16:00):This is really cool. I love it. Barnes (16:03):Fram, she's done, she's not going to be on the show anymore. Leslie (16:06):I'm still here. Barnes (16:07):It's all over. Cubby (16:08):I wasn't being sarcastic, I want to get a Tesla now and DropLabs all because of you. I'm serious. Barnes (16:13):But my problem now is what if I run out of juice in my Tesla and my shoes. I'm going to have no beat. Cubby (16:19):No beat all. Barnes (16:21):And I'm going to not be moving at all. Leslie (16:22):He's going to be stranded in my farm. Barnes (16:24):From here, Cubby, I'm sitting three feet from her and I can feel the floor shaking. She's tapping her feet now. Anyway. Leslie (16:32):It's really cool. Cubby (16:32):Can Leslie hear me? Barnes (16:33):No. Leslie (16:33):Especially the good drumming songs like Carter Beauford from Dave Matthews Band. Barnes (16:38):So come back to your regular headphones, party's over, all right, turn them off. Yeah, we have to do the show. How crazy is that? Leslie (16:44):It's amazing. Cubby (16:45):That is so cool and I have a question for her after she puts her headphones on. Barnes (16:48):She's going to put her headphones back, Cubby's got a question for you. Leslie (16:50):By the way, I'm still tingling. Barnes (16:54):It's unbelievable. Leslie (16:55):You finish and you're still tingling. Cubby (16:57):So, are you asking for a cigarette now? I mean. All right. Barnes (17:03):That's going to be the next thing, trying the shoes while you're having sex. Leslie (17:08):That is amazing. Cubby (17:08):Check this out, I'm on the website droplabs.com because I wanted to get a price. Leslie (17:13):That's incredible. Cubby (17:15):And I'm looking at- Leslie (17:16):That's incredible. Cubby (17:16):They're all sold out. Leslie (17:18):What? Barnes (17:18):They're about to get a new shipment. Cubby (17:19):Notify me when available, there's a button here for that, but there's no price and wow, compatible with all Bluetooth headphones. Barnes (17:26):It's unbelievable. Cubby (17:27):Compatible with iPhone, Android. Leslie (17:28):I'm surprised it took somebody this long to come up with this technology. Barnes (17:31):I'll let you know when ... and also artist mixing. So when you're mixing your record, you can feel the music. Or if you're a drummer, you can put the bass and whoever like your monitor. So you're feeling it in your feet and up through your body. Leslie (17:49):It's so cool. Cubby (17:51):That is so cool. I mean, just when you think they thought of everything, that is something that really gives you the feels and wow. Barnes (17:56):They're about to be in stock. Cubby (17:57):Yeah, it's got nothing but five stars, this is so cool. Leslie (18:01):By the way, it's great for the gift for someone who has everything. Cubby (18:04):Right. Leslie (18:05):This is the gift. Cubby (18:06):Yeah, because you know they don't have it. Leslie (18:07):You know what I'm saying? Barnes (18:07):Because no-one has it. Cubby (18:08):Right. And you know what, they look good. Barnes (18:10):What's weird though is people will look at you ... they're good looking. They're great looking shoes. Cubby (18:14):They really are. Barnes (18:14):I went into eat and the people were, I was like, "What are they looking at?" And I'm like, "Oh, because I sound like a car has come inside and you know when you pull up next to a car and it's like- Cubby (18:26):The annoying bass? Yeah, yeah. Barnes (18:28):Yeah, that's what you're noticed. Leslie (18:31):By the way they are actually good looking shoes though. Barnes (18:33):They are and they're comfortable. Leslie (18:35):Yeah. Cubby (18:35):Yeah. Barnes (18:36):So anyway, that was not a paid segment. Cubby (18:38):No. Barnes (18:38):That's just enthusiasm. Cubby (18:39):And you know what, we are called the Pop Culture Show so we're hip on new trends and stuff like that and there we go, that's a new one that I never even heard of. Barnes (18:47):Check them out. Leslie (18:47):Thanks Barnes. Barnes (18:47):Yup, droplabs.com. Cubby (18:50):I am reserving a pair right now. Leslie (18:53):Well let's dive into some Celebrity Sleaze. Poor Simon Cowell, did you hear about his six hour surgery about his back injury? Barnes (19:00):I've heard so many stories. Cubby (19:01):Yeah, I didn't know it was six hours though. Leslie (19:04):Bike crash, broke his back, six hour surgery. Had to put a metal rod in his back. Cubby (19:10):My buddy was on that show earlier this week. Micheal Yo, he was a comedian, he was on Monday night. Got voted off Tuesday night, but he was bummed out that he did the show and Simon wasn't there. Barnes (19:20):It's going to be weird because Simon was stiff already, now he's got a metal plate in his back. Cubby (19:25):Boom, Barnes with the jokes. Leslie (19:27):Hello. Barnes (19:27):I'm just saying. Leslie (19:30):Hello. Cubby (19:30):Yeah. Leslie (19:31):Well, Kelly Clarkson was filling in for him, so that's cool. So every week we talk about this about how Hollywood has lost ideas, here's another one. Jim Carrey reportedly returning for two more Mask movies. Barnes (19:42):Really? Leslie (19:43):Two more. Cubby (19:44):Is it because we're all wearing masks? Is that the main reason? Barnes (19:48):Hollywood's like, "Oh yeah, a movie about masks, yeah, do it." Cubby (19:51):Yeah, jump on it. Leslie (19:52):Here we go again, another reboot. Every week we talk about this, Saved By The Bell reboot. Barnes (19:57):I saw the trailer, much more dramatic. Cubby (20:00):Right, it's more like a Beverley Hills 90210. Barnes (20:02):Yeah. Cubby (20:03):Some serious moments, but I've always been a fan of Saved By The Bell, it's a great time, it's a great period. Leslie (20:09):So Barnes, our old buddy David Arquette, You Cannot Kill David Arquette has been released. I guess it's going to be video-on-demand with David Arquette? Barnes (20:17):It looks hysterical. I had no idea that the wrestling world was so freaked out about him. Leslie (20:23):Yeah, I had no idea either that he was in the wrestling world. Cubby, I don't know if you knew that or not. Cubby (20:28):Did not. Leslie (20:28):But we're old buddies with David Arquette, so we have to try to get him on this show. Barnes (20:33):Which I texted him and usually he texts right back which he must be just busy with promotion for the show, but he was apparently the WCW champ in 2000. It was a bit, but the wrestling world never accepted him. Cubby (20:50):Well, we keep bringing in these heavy hitters as far as guests go. You might want to work on that one. Barnes (20:54):I'm trying. Leslie (20:55):Here's something else that hit the internet that I absolutely loved and people are wondering what ever happened to Phil Collins. Well, In The Air Tonight has hit, again, after 39 years of being released, it's back on the chart because of these twins from Gary, Indiana and their spontaneous reaction to Phil Collins In The Air Tonight. Barnes (21:15):Oh, it's hysterical. Leslie (21:16):22-year-old twins Tim and Fred Williams and I guess when they get to the drum part, they just go crazy. I sent it to Barnes and he loved it. Barnes (21:25):Cubby, have you seen it? Cubby (21:25):Yeah, it's great. It reminds me kind of Hangover? Remember when Mike Tyson and the drums? Yeah. Barnes (21:31):And there's a bunch of people that do these type of videos, this one I would play a clip but it won't make sense because we're watching the screen and describing it. But to watch them and that big drum part that comes in five minutes in. Cubby (21:44):Right. Barnes (21:44):And they're just sitting there bobbing their head and then they both almost fall out of the chair and are like, "Who would drop a beat five minutes into a song?" Cubby (21:53):Which is a great point actually, but it's a classic. Barnes (21:56):They're like, Phil. Cubby (21:57):Have you seen the people doing the drums with the cupboards or in the kitchen and right when the beat kicks in, they close all the cupboard doors and they have to time it out perfectly? Barnes (22:06):Yup. Cubby (22:07):I love that on TikTok. Barnes (22:07):It's really good. Cubby (22:08):Yeah. Leslie (22:09):Now Cubby, you always do The Wayback Machine, do you remember who was in the original Three Men and a Baby? Because there's going to be a remake. Barnes (22:15):Tom Selleck. Cubby (22:16):John Travolta? Barnes (22:18):John Travolta and Martin Short. Leslie (22:20):Was Travolta in it? Was Tom Selleck? Barnes (22:22):I don't know. Cubby (22:22):Or am I wrong? Leslie (22:23):Ted Danson. Barnes (22:24):Ted Danson. Cubby (22:25):That's right, that's right. Leslie (22:25):And Steve Guttenberg. Barnes (22:26):Oh man, I was way off. Leslie (22:27):But anyway. Cubby (22:28):So there goes my cred. Leslie (22:29):Here we go, Three Men and a Baby, guess who's going to redo it? Zac Efron. Which I don't see that at all because he's a pretty boy. Cubby (22:36):Right, I don't see it either. Leslie (22:37):Which is nothing wrong with that. Barnes (22:39):Who are the other two? And does he play the baby? Leslie (22:40):It doesn't say. Cubby (22:45):Is there anything original anymore? Leslie (22:46):Maybe he should. No. Cubby (22:47):I'm pretty sad. Barnes (22:47):No. Leslie (22:48):Hey, by the way Barnes, you live in Atlanta, did you know that they're making Spider-Man 3 there? Barnes (22:53):They did not consult me on this one. Leslie (22:56):They need to, Spider-Man 3 apparently pre-production happening in the ATL again because Hollywood has no new ideas. Did you see the power list, the highest paid actor list from Forbes? Barnes (23:08):I did not. Cubby (23:08):I know, I know, I know, can I go? Leslie (23:11):Geez, yeah, go ahead. Cubby (23:12):No, I'm just excited because there's one thing you mentioned that I've actually read about and maybe I'm wrong, but I think it's The Rock. Leslie (23:17):Mm-hmm (affirmative) The Rock. Cubby (23:19):Which surprises me because I know he's done a lot, but what has he done lately? I don't know. Barnes (23:24):Well, a ton. He's always on something and they're usually hokey comedies and he's getting paid huge. Cubby (23:30):Maybe because I'm not a huge fan I don't even know, but yeah. Leslie (23:33):Maybe you're just not aware of his films, but apparently he made an estimated 87.5 million over the last year. Cubby (23:40):That's some good coin right there. Leslie (23:41):And there were some other people in there that I totally got like Mark Wahlberg, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Will Smith, Adam Sandler, Ben Affleck too by the way was in that list as well. Cubby (23:51):Right. Leslie (23:52):And I know he's been doing a bunch of stuff for Netflix. How about The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, a reboot there with Will Smith. Barnes (23:59):Come on, everything's a reboot. Leslie (24:02):Yeah, the show's based on, again, on Morgan Cooper's viral YouTube trailer with I guess Morgan Cooper also on board with Will Smith. Of course Will Smith has got to be involved, of course. Barnes (24:13):This looks more like Boyz n the Hood Leslie (24:16):Did it? I didn't see the trailer. Barnes (24:16):No seriously, it's very dramatic, very dramatic. It's not a comedy. Leslie (24:21):I thought this was very progressive for the Hallmark Channel. They will feature their first same-sex wedding. Barnes (24:30):That is a big deal for them and it's about time. Leslie (24:31):I thought so too. I mean, by the way, it's great, but I was really like wow. Barnes (24:35):Right, they're very conservative. Leslie (24:38):Now this was bizarre, David Blaine, you know David Blaine the magician? Cubby (24:43):Yeah. Leslie (24:43):To float through the air while holding balloons. Barnes (24:46):What the hell do balloons have to do with it? Leslie (24:46):His new special will stream on August 31st on his YouTube channel. Barnes (24:53):Seriously, am I missing something? Leslie (24:56):By the way Cubby, this is in your neck of the woods. Cubby (24:58):Yeah. Leslie (24:58):Follow Blaine as he attempts to float from New Jersey over the New York City skyline. Cubby (25:03):Yeah. Barnes (25:04):Come on. Leslie (25:04):What? Cubby (25:04):We talked about this on our show today and I think it's funny, it's only going to be on YouTube. David Blaine used to have specials on major networks, what does that say? Barnes (25:15):Well, I mean, YouTube's probably paying him a big nut. Cubby (25:18):Well yeah, you're right, I know YouTube's huge, but I used to remember David Blaine on NBC or ABC, it was a big deal. And he hasn't done anything in a while, so I guess I am curious. Leslie (25:29):Yeah, I'm curious about that and Barnes actually turned me on to this and it's quite funny, but another reason that 2020 continues to be weird, have you seen or heard Michael Jackson's Bad- Barnes (25:43):Oh, this is great. Leslie (25:44):... as a bluegrass song? Barnes (25:45):Have you seen it Cubby? Cubby (25:46):I have not and maybe I shouldn't be on this show because it's pop culture, I don't know about this one. Barnes (25:51):This one is good. I'm going to play part of it for you, I wish I could show you, but you can just Google it. Just Google Michael Jackson Bad bluegrass. Cubby (26:00):Okay. Barnes (26:01):Who did this, does it say who did it? Leslie (26:02):No, it doesn't. Barnes (26:03):It's unbelievable. Hearing it is pretty cool, but when you see that they've taken the original video and what I'm about to play for you, put it all together, it's insane (singing). Imagine the video, we all know the video. They're all running around, it's crazy. Cubby (26:33):I'm imagining Deliverance is what I'm imagining. Barnes (26:35):Yeah. Leslie (26:38):Good call on Deliverance. Cubby (26:40):Squeal like a pig. Barnes (26:40):It's really wild. Google that, you will love it. Leslie (26:43):So I'm sure the next time we talk, I'll talk more about more reboots coming out of Hollywood, that's your Celebrity Sleaze. Cubby (26:49):All right, I love it. Hey, I'm a little behind on my Netflix watching, I will admit. Are you guys watching anything on Netflix? Barnes (26:56):Let me get my app, standby, because I can't remember all of them. Hold on. Leslie (26:59):I told you I'm still watching Yellowstone on the Paramount network which is phenomenal. Kevin Costner. Barnes (27:05):Have you watched Dr. Foster yet? Leslie (27:06):No. Barnes (27:07):Damn it, Fram. Leslie (27:07):No, I'm sorry. Barnes (27:08):I give you recommendations because I care. Cubby (27:11):Well here's what I want to talk about. Barnes (27:14):Hold on, you asked me a question, let me answer. Leslie (27:16):He's actually looking up his Netflix app. Barnes (27:17):Well, because I'm trying to remember what I'm watching. Cubby (27:19):Yeah, chop the shit out. Leslie (27:19):You're not watching Selling Sunset are you? Barnes (27:22):No, it just came up with an ad, Fram. Leslie (27:24):Okay. Barnes (27:24):Slow your roll, I don't like doing this show with you in the same room. Leslie (27:26):Slow your roll. Barnes (27:27):I need my social distance. Leslie (27:29):Did he just say slow your roll? Barnes (27:30):You're looking over my shoulder like we're in an airplane seat and you're like, "Do you really watch Selling Sunset?" I have seen one episode. I'm watching Outer Banks. Leslie (27:42):Yeah, I have to watch that because everybody that I work with is like, "You got to watch Outer Banks." Barnes (27:47):And Charles Esten who's one of the stars is going to be on this show in I think three weeks right at the end of August? Leslie (27:52):Former start of Nashville, TV show Nashville. Cubby (27:55):Look at that. Barnes (27:56):Do you know a little bit about that do you? Leslie (27:56):Mm-hmm (affirmative) Barnes (27:58):Bloodline, there's another one. Leslie (27:59):I finished that a long time ago. Barnes (28:02):Oh well, why haven't you mentioned it? Leslie (28:04):I love Bloodline. Barnes (28:05):And Money Heist, I'm on the third section. Cubby (28:08):I have a fun Netflix fact for you. So, when you sign on to the streaming service, the logo appears and you hear that famous sound. Barnes (28:16):Love that sound. Cubby (28:18):So, the Netflix offices call that the Ta-Dum and it's very recognizable, but believe it or not, so Todd Yellin, Netflix's Vice President of Product, he recently revealed that one of the options considered for Netflix production logo was something else. And I got to tell you, I have three options here and I want you to see which one do you think they were considering. And this is no joke, by the way, they were considering one of these sounds and I want you to see if you know which one it is. Is it A? Speaker 6 (28:49):Ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats. The show is about to begin. Cubby (28:54):All right or is it B? Or is it C? Barnes (29:06):Wow. Leslie (29:06):Okay. Cubby (29:06):Of the three you heard, which one do you think they were actually considering as the beginning of the logo on it? Barnes (29:11):This is for real, one of those three as going to be the Ta-Dum? Cubby (29:15):One hundred percent. Leslie (29:15):I'm going to say B. Cubby (29:17):You're going to say B and that was- Barnes (29:19):Which was the cartoon sounding thing? Cubby (29:21):Right, that was the cartoon sounding thing. Barnes (29:23):I would say the ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats like it's showtime. Cubby (29:28):That's what I thought, guys. But believe it or not. Barnes (29:33):No way. Leslie (29:34):There's no way. Barnes (29:34):A goat? Cubby (29:35):The sound of a goat was on the shortlist of possible sound options to go along with their logo and they said that it felt like a riff of another famous production logo. Todd says, Todd Yellin, the Netflix Vice President of Product, he said he liked the sound of the goat because it was funny, quirky and their version of MGM's Leo the Lion, end quote. Leslie (29:57):No way. Barnes (29:58):What? Leslie (29:59):A goat to a lion. Barnes (30:00):Can you imagine? Cubby (30:00):They actually consider doing the Netflix logo popping up on your screen and then hearing the bleating of a goat. Barnes (30:09):Can you imagine how that would have changed just the whole thing? Cubby (30:14):But when you were a kid, do you remember watching TV shows and they had like sit, Ubu, sit, good dog. That was random and then you had the cat the end of Mary Tyler Moore. Leslie (30:26):That's true, that's true. Cubby (30:26):I mean, the goat does sound like really- Barnes (30:28):Yeah, but those were production company little soundbites as opposed to almost like a network. Maybe they weren't thinking Netflix would be as big as it is? Cubby (30:38):Maybe, but I mean I love Ta-Dum, don't get me wrong, but yeah, the goat. Leslie (30:43):Are you yearning for the goat sound now? Barnes (30:49):What a trip. Cubby (30:56):I was really thinking that would be hilarious (singing). Leslie (31:07):We are so excited to have on the show with us Mr. Kristian Bush and Kristian, I don't even know where to begin with your credits because you are a singer, a songwriter, a multi-instrumentalist, a producer, a successful producer, one half of Sugarland who have sold millions of albums worldwide, multiple number ones. Where do we begin? We've known each other, you and Barnes and I go back 20 plus years. Kristian Bush (31:33):I'm telling you that when I listened to this podcast, even today, I'm so nostalgic. You guys could tell me things and I would believe you because I've been listening to you on the radio for so long. Like immediately I'm 22. Barnes (31:50):Same here and the more wine Fram drinks, she's getting down to about 18. Leslie (31:54):Yeah. Cubby (31:55):Yeah. Leslie (31:56):We decided to drink on the show tonight because we had you on and we're like we have so many stories to tell with Kristian. Kristian Bush (32:03):Oh my gosh, well you guys are constantly reinventing yourself and I feel like if you've know somebody this long, that's what you do. Barnes (32:14):Well, I want to take the next seven minutes to list the other 13,000 bands that you're in and projects, so come back in 10 minutes, no I'm just kidding. Honestly, I don't know how you keep up with what band you're in at what point. I mean, Sugarland who's just crushed it for years, you've got all the Billy Pilgrim stuff which is coming back full circle. Leslie (32:36):Yup. Barnes (32:37):I mean, you're just everywhere. I'm being honest, when you're on stage, do you ever forget which band you're in? Kristian Bush (32:45):It just started happening about three weeks ago that I started writing songs and not knowing which band it should go to. That was an odd moment and I had to start asking myself so what makes it one thing or another? Barnes (32:57):That was my question on the way driving to Nashville today. I was like at what point when you're writing a song do you designate this is a Sugarland song, this is a Kristian Bush song. Kristian Bush (33:07):Usually it's because I'm like a habitual collaborator. So, most of the Sugarland stuff Jennifer and I write together, but I start a lot of it alone. And the Dark Water stuff is very different, the new rock record that I've done. So my partners in that are my brother Brandon and Benji Shanks and they bring me the music, so it works like the old R.E.M. world where the music shows up and then I have the weird task of walking around and making up words in my head. Cubby (33:40):But you have a lot of folders, you have a lot of folders on your desktop of your computer don't you? Barnes (33:44):Yeah. Kristian Bush (33:44):Oh my gosh, it gives my kids anxiety when they look at all the folders. They're like, "Dad." Barnes (33:53):Well, we have a lot to cover with you. Let's start with Billy Pilgrim. You are coming back and I'm assuming it's Andrew also, I mean it wouldn't be Billy Pilgrim if it wasn't, Andrew Hyra. And you guys, this is an unbelievable story and I don't even quite understand it. This album that is coming out was the lost album? Kristian Bush (34:16):Yeah, so you guys might remember this, you might not, but it was after 9/11. There was a fire in downtown Avondale and it burned the Avondale town center. Barnes (34:31):This is near Atlanta for our listeners in Japan. Kristian Bush (34:34):Yeah, this is in Atlanta and Avondale, it's one of the four or five little cities that are literally inside the city. And this theater, it was like an old movie theater, had been converted. It used to be where like Elvis played there and stuff, but it had been converted from a movie theater into a recording studio. And Sister Hazel and Third Day and Billy Pilgrim, we all recorded there with Don McCollister and Don had a fire in the studio. And my brother and I had just had this really weird tragedy, our mother passed away suddenly within a day of being sick and that was two weeks prior to the fire. Kristian Bush (35:20):So this fire burned the entire thing down and my brother and I had all of our gear and all of our music and all of our recordings in the upstairs of that theater and we had it in the old projector room stored in the movie theater and that was the name of our little project studio. Barnes (35:39):And this is what year? This is like '99? Kristian Bush (35:42):This would be 2001. Barnes (35:47):Okay. Cubby (35:47):Well yeah, because 9/11 was 2001, so. Barnes (35:49):Oh, okay, yup. Cubby (35:50):Right. Kristian Bush (35:51):Yeah, so it would have been that winter. Two or three weeks, well actually it was about a month later is when the fire happened and in the fire was this Billy Pilgrim record we had really worked for four years to make. Barnes (36:04):So you put a ribbon on it, it was done, sitting there. Kristian Bush (36:08):It was done. Barnes (36:08):Yeah. Kristian Bush (36:09):And so when everything burned, all the master files and tapes burned with it. So we had one copy left. Barnes (36:17):Wow. Kristian Bush (36:17):And we were so heartbroken and of course I was screaming. I was like that 30-year-old kid grieving the loss of a parent which is so strange. And it took us, I don't know, maybe four, five months to get up enough let's go outside and try to release this because we made it and we have one copy. So, we were like, well, maybe we should play a show and so we played one show at Eddie's Attic and about that time, I had already starting writing songs for Sugarland. Barnes (36:48):So was the plan for people just to check it out one at a time? We could all just come and like I can take it for a week and then I bring it back and then Cubby can get it? Cubby (36:57):Yeah. Kristian Bush (36:58):Right, well we were a little scared and we weren't getting along, Andrew and I, and I knew he was commuting back and forth from LA back to Atlanta. We just played this one show and we made, I don't know, two or three hundred copies of it because we thought well ... and we did it by hand, we just had it manufactured. And then we sold them at that show and then that was it and it disappeared forever. And I found my one copy during the pandemic and you and I have been talking- Leslie (37:29):No way. Kristian Bush (37:30):... for the last couple of years. And I called him, I was like, "Hey man, so how about since it's upside down world, why don't we do this?" Barnes (37:38):You're like the networks who are just rehashing old stuff, come on Kristian, I'm kidding. Kristian Bush (37:42):I heard you laughing. Leslie (37:44):This is such a treat for the fans though. Barnes (37:46):Big time. Leslie (37:47):Especially in the ATL days. Barnes (37:50):And those that don't know the angle, Andrew Hyra has a very famous sister Meg Ryan. Kristian Bush (37:58):That's right. Barnes (37:58):And people always talked about that, the buzz was all there, but you guys were supported also big time by the Indigo Girls, right, early on? Kristian Bush (38:03):Right. Barnes (38:04):And you had all this buzz around you and then you lose this record and so now ironically this was not planned, the record's being released, what, Monday this week? Kristian Bush (38:13):Yeah, one of the songs, the second song from it comes out just this week. And then- Barnes (38:20):Tamburlaine? Kristian Bush (38:21):The record itself ... yeah, Tamburlaine comes out this week and then the whole record comes out on the 4th of September. Barnes (38:27):Here's a quick clip of Tamburlaine (singing). That was done 20 years ago almost, right? Wow. Kristian Bush (38:47):Yeah. Barnes (38:47):An important question for fans, why did you and Andrew not talk for over 15 years? Kristian Bush (38:55):We still haven't actually unearthed that part. Barnes (38:58):Really? Kristian Bush (38:59):We haven't and we've been talking maybe twice a week recently if not a little bit more and we're having really great conversation, but- Barnes (39:08):Therapy? Kristian Bush (39:09):... imagine a friend of yours ... well, kind of. I mean, we've covered a lot of ground. I just took my child, my oldest, to college on Monday, so I don't think he's ever saw Camille. Barnes (39:24):Wow, that is so strange. That many years and here we are putting a record out that was all but gone, COVID happens, you find it, unearth it in your house. It's weird how things happen. Leslie (39:38):But you know what's strange because the COVID and pandemic has brought a lot of people back together and maybe this was actually one of the silver linings of this pandemic. And because Kristian's such a creative person, I mean, again, he fluidly, he can go from producing someone to doing a Sugarland record to doing a solo album. But this really good news, the Billy Pilgrim record, for all those fans, Kristian, this is incredible. Kristian Bush (40:03):Oh yeah. It really is mind blowing. And Billy Pilgrim happened before the internet, so you can't really go find out who we were or what we did or what it sounded like. You can hear some of the things we did on Atlantic Records, but again, put Billy Pilgrim in time, we signed to Atlanta three months before Hootie & the Blowfish. Barnes (40:23):Wow. Kristian Bush (40:24):My peers were Rob Thomas and Jewel and those are the people who got signed the same month we did. Cubby (40:31):Well what's the deal with Sugarland music because I've heard September, I don't have a date though, of something and a song, can you tell me more about that? Kristian Bush (40:40):We recorded literally the day after the CMAs this past year. When we record, we like to record live, so when you're hearing them on the radio if it's exciting, it's because it was exciting for those three minutes, right? And it's an old habit I have and it's a luxury because the singers that I work with a lot are really fantastic, they don't need to try. And Jennifer's definitely that way and we finished it and we were ready to release it and we were about to talk about it in March and literally as we were about to send the first email to everyone, like here's when the first song comes out, everything shut down. So, it has been paused and put off and put off and put off and now I think it's time to start releasing it because fingers crossed we get back out on the road next summer. Barnes (41:35):Yeah, release it before that place burns down, we don't need this to happen again. Don't leave new music just sitting around Kristian Bush. Kristian Bush (41:43):Oh my gosh. Leslie (41:44):You guys are signed to one of my favorite labels in town, Big Machine Records and I love the fact that you guys are putting new music out. I just talked to Jennifer Nettles the other day and she's doing a lot of stuff with Equal Play at CMT. But Kristian, you guys have a played so many festivals, so many shows with so many artists worldwide, who's been the favorite for you? Because again, you've played with every artist. Kristian Bush (42:12):That's a good question. We were just talking about this the other day because it was so far back, but there was a, it is a festival, it's still there, I think, in Memphis called the Beale Street Festival and it's down next to the river and it was Billy Pilgrim and Beck and Bob Dylan. And besides the alliteration which is hilarious, I was shocked at being able to just sit on the side of that stage and I don't even know that was 1994 maybe at what that was. Kristian Bush (42:47):And then carry that forward to I guess the other super cool one, Jennifer and I did the Nobel Peace Prize concert and it was the year that the Arab Spring lady won it with two other women and we got to sit with those ladies during the days walking into the concert and have conversation. And watching them sing our songs back was just mind blowing. It was like who gets this life? Barnes (43:23):That's so funny. Kristian Bush (43:24):And the lady that started the Arab Spring, she's very young and she had just gotten out of jail to come get her award. Leslie (43:31):Wow. Cubby (43:32):So Kristian, I live in New Jersey, so New York obviously in the backyard here. Broadway, sadly as we all know, shut down but you're working on a musical I heard that are we ever going to see? What's the deal with this? Leslie (43:46):Oh, that musical was in Atlanta too. Barnes (43:49):What? Leslie (43:49):Yeah, he did a musical, he wrote a musical. Tell them about it Kristian. Kristian Bush (43:54):I got asked to do some ... because in Atlanta they now consider me a country singer, right, because Billy Pilgrim wasn't playing for a long time. So, I got asked to do some country songs for a play by a famous playwright in Atlanta named Janece Shaffer and she needed a song for a play and it turned into 16 songs, it turned into a musical. And the Alliance in Atlanta which is our big theater did the world premier of it and it has gone into the world called Troubadour and it's about a guy who's retiring in 1951 on the stage of the rhyme and is a country singer and it's whether his son will take over and his son's new friend is a Jewish tailor. It turns out all of the tailors that moved country music from church clothes into bedazzled clothes were Jewish tailors which I thought was a really interesting story. Kristian Bush (44:47):So that became in a musical called Troubadour. And the same playwright then reached out to me and said, "Hey, let's write something else, we were a good team." I said, "Okay, let's do it." And it happened to be the week of the Kavanaugh testimony. Leslie (45:02):Mm-hmm (affirmative) Cubby (45:02):Mm-hmm (affirmative) yup. Kristian Bush (45:05):And we went through lots of different ideas, like first of all isn't that strange that you have lunch somewhere and talk about ideas for a musical, right? And it got shot down, but we started that day and ran straight through for three months and wrote a musical about the Kavanaugh testimony. Barnes (45:23):You wrote a musical about the Kavanaugh testimony? Kristian Bush (45:27):Yeah. Barnes (45:27):Here's one, try something about I'm not going to give that girl a shot, see if that will work. Because on Broadway ... I'm sorry, that one fell flat. I'm sorry, I'm sorry everybody. That's crazy, you're writing for Broadway. Cubby (45:42):But this was a lot of work that we're never going to see or hear? Kristian Bush (45:45):Well, it's hard to tell. We thought that it got a director and it got a place and it was going to move running into the election because they thought it's a pretty topical thing. And there's a lot of conversation, I'm very vocal about my pro-women stance in all of the things that I do and this is definitely one of them. And it was a fascinating ... we will get to see it, but it was an exploration of what happens in a heterosexual couple when you are faced with the triggering of what happened in the Kavanaugh trial. Suddenly you look at your spouse and you're like, "Is there something you need to tell me?" Leslie (46:39):That's fascinating. Kristian Bush (46:39):Today's the day. And it happened all over the place, it happened to couples everywhere. Barnes (46:46):Wow, COVID killed your Kavanaugh trial, but brought back Billy Pilgrim. Leslie (46:49):Kind of, yeah. Barnes (46:51):This universe is just funky. Cubby (46:53):It really is. Barnes (46:54):It really is funky. Kristian, what is it like winning a Grammy? Kristian Bush (46:59):It's like a Superbowl thing and you know what's weird? It was mind blowing to have it happen, but it's even more mind blowing now. I really believe in the Grammys and the Recording Academy, is the organization MusiCares, a lot of the efforts that they have. And now that I'm in it, I can't believe how hard it was to actually win one. Barnes (47:21):I mean I can't imagine what that must have feel like being there. You know you're nominated, but as they're doing your category, does it become an out of body experience when you start, Sugarland and then they play a clip from the song on the big screen and then all of sudden they're saying the winner is Sugarland. Kristian Bush (47:38):Yeah, it's mind blowing. Barnes (47:41):And where's your Grammy now? Kristian Bush (47:44):It's sitting in the studio next to my Star Wars lunchbox on the shelf. Barnes (47:53):Nice. Nice. Kristian Bush (47:56):I work with a lot of artists and I don't want them to be out on the desk shined up or anything. Barnes (48:03):Only when you want to piss them off, right? You want to motivate them or piss them off. Kristian Bush (48:06):No, but I'd love to ... things of equal weight, when you put them on the same shelf they have anything in your life. And I think it's nice to be reminded that you can do something impossible and you love your Star Wars lunchbox. Barnes (48:22):That's funny, if I had it, I'd be like Cubby shine my Grammy. Cubby (48:25):Every day. Barnes (48:25):Shine my Grammy. Cubby (48:26):Every day. Barnes (48:27):There's a couple stories that I think are cool that I want to share. One of them, I don't know if you remember this, we were at lunch at Atlanta over off of Ponce and you got a call about something, about a gig, that when I went home and told my daughters and I'm sure when you told your daughters, it became all encompassing of the conversation. I want to play a quick clip of a song first, this is the artist that was reaching out to and then we'll say for what (singing). Barnes (49:08):That's Sugarland with Taylor Swift and you had just gotten the call to go be the surprise guest at the Dallas Cowboy Stadium on Taylor's tour. As a dad of a teenage daughter, you daughter's how old? Kristian Bush (49:26):Well, she turned 15. Barnes (49:28):Okay, in the sweet spot. How did that go over when you dropped that little nugget that oh, by the way, Taylor Swift just called me and wants me to come be the surprise guest at her show? I don't mean in attendance for people listening, she was doing every tour stop was a different artist that would come out and perform with her and Kristian Bush was it for Dallas. Kristian Bush (49:50):Yeah, I told them at dinner because I make them dinner no matter how grumpy teenager-y they are. And at dinner I make them do the same thing, I'm like tell the best thing that happened to you today, I just make them tell me. And they'll make up, "This dinner." Or, "I laughed with my friends." Or they would take it somewhat seriously and then I pregnant pause it and wait for them to ask me. And sometimes they just forget about me completely, but that day, they're like, "Oh, so dad, so I guess you want us to ask you what's the best thing that happened in your day." I was like, "Oh, nothing, I'm just going to play with Taylor." Kristian Bush (50:30):And we just left it at that and it didn't really land until we did it and then the next day her world is a very incredible functioning machine, right? And they immediately posted our appearance on the internet and the song itself. And my daughter, she was like, all I got was a text and I wish I saved it, but it read something like, "Who would have thought that my 40-something year old dad would be cooler than me for any moment of my life but it just happened." Leslie (51:08):That's awesome. Barnes (51:09):Did you get the all caps OMG? Because when I went home and told my daughters, "Hey, I was just at lunch with my friend Kristian." And they're like, "Yeah, yeah." Said, "Well, he's about to go play in Texas Stadium with Taylor Swift." And then there was a pause and they looked at me like, "Can he come over?" All of a sudden they're like, "We love Kristian." It's just funny, I mean what is it like getting in that machine of Taylor Swift's world? When I show up at that- Kristian Bush (51:38):Yeah, it's interesting for me, it's similar to the same stuff with Andrew. Taylor and I knew each other because she opened for Sugarland. Leslie (51:48):That's true, she opened for Sugarland, yeah. Kristian Bush (51:50):And we would take her out because nobody else would and ger parents became people who would ask me questions backstage like, "How do I do this?" I'm like, "Oh, interestingly I've done this like twice now and here's what you need to do and here's what you need to look out for." So we have a relationship that actually just exists back there in time. So, it was funny to be in a room where everybody's anxious of the superstar and she's really not changed that whole much or at least the way she talks to me hasn't. And she's like, "Oh, what do you think about this?" I'm like, "Oh, what do you think about this?" And suddenly we're back in 2000 and whatever 5. Barnes (52:33):But what's cool about that and says a lot about her is that she hasn't changed. Because there are some people that do like Leslie. I mean, the minute stuff started and Leslie's like- Leslie (52:44):I become such a diva, it's unbelievable Kristian, but anyway. Kristian Bush (52:47):It was so great, it's one of the things you wonder how people navigate this when it happens to them and weirdly I've seen them on the way up and the way back down like twice now. Different kinds of different people that you know well. And the grace of how you navigate it is your true character and she has character, she's like, "What do I do now? I really like my boyfriend. I've dated this guy longer than anybody else." And I was like, "You know what, let me tell you something, do you like board games? Start with Scrabble, start learning to drink wine. Figure out who these people are in your life, spend extra time with them." And then suddenly that's now what we talk about. Barnes (53:37):We've been telling Leslie every week get Taylor Swift on this show and she's like, "Barnes I'm not going to." Just come on. Leslie (53:46):Kristian might be able to do that for you. Barnes (53:47):Yeah, get Taylor Swift to come give us some love old school. Cubby (53:51):Did she ever try to make you adopt a cat? Kristian Bush (53:55):No, I'm not a cat person. Cubby (53:58):Oh, okay. I know she loves her cats. Kristian Bush (54:00):I fall completely on the dog side. Barnes (54:01):Maybe that's our angle, Cubby. Cubby (54:03):Yeah, because me and Barnes are cat people. I mean no offense to dogs, I like dogs. Kristian Bush (54:06):You all are cat people? Cubby (54:07):I like dogs, but cats are easier to take care of and I've just become a cat guy and Barnes and I both foster cats and yeah, I mean, that's our angle Barnes. Barnes (54:17):Well Kristian, this was such a treat. Leslie (54:18):Kristian, we need to see you in person next time. Kristian Bush (54:21):Yes, I want to do that actually and get near everybody again. Cubby (54:26):Also, all the money you've made, maybe better WiFi? I mean I love you dude, but. Barnes (54:30):Yeah, we had to go on the phone because Kristian's in a cabin in the woods somewhere and he was about on a five second delay so the stories would have been nowhere near as funny. Kristian Bush (54:41):Our comedic timing has to work on the phone or otherwise we're not really that great. Barnes (54:45):This looks like what they call hostage video. Right now it looks like you've got a wooden wall behind you, you're hunched down in a little shadowy corner. Cubby (54:54):Holding up a newspaper. Leslie (54:56):He's secluded somewhere. Cubby (54:56):Holding up a newspaper. Kristian Bush (54:58):Yeah, exactly. Barnes (54:58):So funny. Well, thank you for coming on, we'll look forward to talking to Taylor Swift once you set that up for us. Kristian Bush (55:05):I love it and I love you guys are doing this, keep doing it. Barnes (55:07):We'll do it. Leslie (55:08):We miss you, we miss you, we can't wait to see you again Kristian. Cubby (55:10):And keep up all the success man, we love you dude. Barnes (55:13):See you soon. Kristian Bush (55:14):Thank you, I love you too. Barnes (55:15):Bye-bye. Leslie (55:15):Bye. Speaker 8 (55:20):This is Cubby's Pop Culture Throwback, a rewind into the vault of music, movies and moments. Cubby (55:27):All right guys, this week we're going back to August 17th 1988, the week of August 17th 1988. Leslie (55:33):Whoa, '88. Cubby (55:36):The number one song on the Billboard Hot 100 this week on the pop charts in '88 was a song you know and love (singing). Leslie (55:45):Oh yeah. Cubby (55:48):A little Steve Winwood and Roll With It. This song, Leslie, Barnes, I'm sure you remember, I think it was number one for just forever on all the radio station playlists out there, it was huge. Leslie (55:58):I always loved his voice. Cubby (55:59):Me too. Barnes (56:00):My roommate smoked a bunch of pot to that. Cubby (56:02):Really? Barnes (56:02):Yeah. Cubby (56:03):I remember big Winwood fan. Barnes (56:05):I'm not a pot smoker, but he was, so everything I owned smelled like weed and all I know is he played Steve Winwood all the time. Leslie (56:11):That's such a weird recollection. Barnes (56:13):Because Steve Winwood makes me think of pot. Leslie (56:14):I guess. Cubby (56:15):Right. The number one song on the modern rock

Get Exclusive Pop Culture Show video interviews, video content and bonus video exclusively from our Instagram. Sign up for our Pop Cult and be the first to get show announcements, free stuff and insider information only available to cult members.Speaker 1 (00:00):Welcome to The Pop Culture Show with Barnes, Leslie and Cubby. Barnes (00:03):The Pop Culture Show is back. I'm Barnes. That's Leslie. That's Cubby. Please rate, review and subscribe and thank you for hanging with us. There's a lot going on including a couple of guests coming up. Kristian Bush from Sugarland will be on with us next week. Leslie (00:19):Our old buddy Kristian Bush. Barnes (00:21):You can listen to us on the iHeartRadio app and now we've been added to Pandora. So if Pandora is your jam. Where else can we get picked up Cubby? Cubby (00:30):Buicks. You can hear us now from Buicks now. Barnes (00:32):Yeah, they added that from Tesla. Tesla [crosstalk 00:00:35]. Cubby (00:34):Tesla, of course. I love my Tesla. I don't have one but I love my Tesla. Barnes (00:39):How was your week? Cubby (00:41):Well, we had that tropical storm, Isaias. Leslie (00:43):That's right. Barnes (00:45):Did they do that as a job to weathercasters? No one can say the name. Cubby (00:48):It took me forever to say it and I'm probably still saying it wrong. We got hit pretty hard here. It was only like a five hour travel storm, like it flew in flew out, but lost power for 24 hours, which is nothing compared to other friends of mine who are still without power. Barnes (01:03):And with a baby. Cubby (01:04):With a baby. Had a friend of mine come over and bring a generator which helped us out a little bit. You could plug in a few lamps and stuff like that and a portable air conditioning but it was a heck of a week. A tree fell, almost hit our house where the baby was sleeping. Barely missed it. So we were very fortunate but you know what, despite all that, guys- Barnes (01:26):Did your Jägermeister machine go down? Cubby (01:27):It went down for a whole day but despite all that, I think I locked in a guest for today's show. Leslie (01:33):What? Cubby (01:34):I made some calls. I was on the internet, shot a few emails, and even a day without power didn't stop me from, I'm fairly certain booking somebody here today. Barnes (01:47):Who? Tell us. Cubby (01:49):I'd be crazy to tell you now. Barnes (01:52):You're playing games now with us. We have to listen to find out who it is. Cubby (01:54):I can assure you- Barnes (01:56):I can't leave early. Cubby (01:58):I can assure you this person is going to chime in and plug into our podcast in the next few minutes. Barnes (02:05):We're going to know who it is? Cubby (02:06):You should. Grammy winner, I know that. Leslie (02:08):What a tease. Barnes (02:10):Did we play them on alternative radio? Cubby (02:12):Oh, absolutely. You guys probably know this person you probably interviewed and hung out with this person as much as I have. Barnes (02:19):Actor also, or just a singer? Cubby (02:22):No, maybe done some acting but- Barnes (02:25):I don't like to be teased like this. Cubby (02:26):Was part of a movie in a weird roundabout way. So there's a little tease for you. Leslie (02:31):He or she? Cubby (02:32):She. Leslie (02:33):Oh, it's a she? Barnes (02:35):What if we were to end the show right now? It would just be over. Thanks for listening to The Pop Culture Show. So where's your guest Cubby- Cubby (02:42):Not until she chimes. I'm not feeling confident until we hear that, and she plugs into the podcast here. Barnes (02:49):What? We're just going to sit and wait and something's going to happen? Is it like on Zoom when people just pop in. Leslie (02:54):I think that's what's going to happen. Cubby (02:57):Yeah, it's like that, like a surprise drop in. Barnes (02:58):That was a crazy week. I would not take yours for anything. Mine was pretty low key I did guest host a podcast. Our friend Damona Hoffman, who has a very successful dating podcast. She was on our second, I think episode ever when we started this thing back in April. Leslie (03:13):Wait a minute. Why were you on a dating podcast? Barnes (03:14):I guest hosted. She does this segment called Headlines and she wanted some pop culture input, and so who did she come to? The Pop Culture Show. Cubby (03:21):Did you plug our show? Barnes (03:23):Cubby, how long have you known me? Cubby (03:25):30 years. Leslie (03:25):He's the plug meister. Barnes (03:27):Did I plug our show? Cubby (03:28):I'm Ygritte meister, you're plug meister. Barnes (03:31):So yeah, that episode drops today, same day as ours. It's called Dates and Mates. It's a very successful show. I've probably ruined it, but it's out today. My part of it is somewhere in there. She does headlines in the segment or as a segment. Leslie (03:47):Does she help people get dates and mates? Barnes (03:49):She's very good. She's in the LA Times. She writes for like, what's the Washington big newspaper, I think- Leslie (03:55):Washington Post? Barnes (03:57):That may be it. Yep. She does all of these newspapers and she hosted a dating show on, I want to say Lifetime or one of those networks. She's always in the mix. She's very cool. Damona Hoffman and that show is called Dates and Mates. So listen. Fram, how was your week? Leslie (04:12):Damn, my week pales in comparison. Cubby is without power, sitting in the dark. You're over there on podcasts. I'm just over here growing watermelons. Cubby (04:21):That actually is really cool. I saw that on your Instagram and that looks really neat. Barnes (04:26):You posted a lot about this watermelon and the one thing I can think of, it takes how many days to grow watermelon? Leslie (04:34):I don't know. All I can tell you is that I go out there and water it. My husband does most of the work- Barnes (04:39):You do know. He just told you. I heard him tell 60 days. I was teeing you up, and what was my comment when you said that? Leslie (04:46):I didn't hear your comment. Barnes (04:47):I said I would just go to Publix. Because that's too much attachment to a watermelon, for 60 days and then you just eat it like that and it's gone. Cubby (04:56):Do you water them? Leslie (04:57):You do think it was cool how it went from a tiny little seed to- Barnes (05:00):Of course, but then you eat it and then it's gone. Leslie (05:02):I know but you grow yourself in your own garden. It's magical. Cubby (05:05):Do you water it with your [quify 00:05:06]? Barnes (05:06):QuiFit. Cubby (05:08):Oh, QuiFit. I'm sorry. Barnes (05:09):There's still people talking about that. Leslie (05:12):I need money from that company because I think I sold about 30 of those things. Barnes (05:15):It's French, right? They're saying we. Leslie (05:17):It's we fit. Barnes (05:19):Right, but only you would take the little tilde accent thing and make it a Q for QuiFit. Cubby (05:26):I just want to take two seconds to shout out to people. Yes, only two but hopefully more. A girl named Jody who is our account executive at iHeartRadio, listens every week and so does Wendy Wilde. She's our midday DJ at KTU, the station I used to be at. She listens all the time. I just want to shout out to you people real quick because they comment every week on our show and we really appreciate it. Leslie (05:49):That's really nice. Cubby (05:50):Spread the word guys and Jodi, Wendy we love you and let's get some more people tuning into The Pop Culture Show. Barnes (05:56):Before we get to celebrity sleaze, I thought it would be fun to do around of tell me a story where you have to tell something about one of the other co hosts. So you have something that is stuck in your mind about one of the other two. That just when you say someone's name, a story is kind of implanted in your head, friends of yours. For some reason your mind goes back to that story. I have two quick ones and I actually have one about both of you. Cubby, I always think of the time you won, what was it? $40,000 in a slot machine? Cubby (06:32):Yes, it was $38,500 on a slot machine. Barnes (06:36):How much did you put in? Cubby (06:37):100 bucks. Barnes (06:38):Three times or just 100? Cubby (06:40):No, I went to, I take that back. It was about $300 into a $100 machine because I've had some success on $100 slot machines. Your money will go like that if you're not winning, but you can also score big. One cherry on $100 machine could be like $3,000. Barnes (07:01):Dude gets off of work, goes right to Atlantic City, calls me from the car, is like, dude, I just won $38,000. I'm like, what? Cubby (07:08):Leslie, I was feeling it. It was really weird. I was at work. I'm about two hours from Atlantic City, you probably remember from working up here is not far at all and it kind of hit me. I'm like, you know what, I'm going to go down to Atlantic City. It's Tuesday afternoon, nobody will be there. I jumped in the car, went down there and I had $500, I had five $100 bills, and I said, I'm just going to put them all in the $100 machine and whatever happens, happens, and $300 in the thing went cherry, cherry and then like, jackpot. I knew it was big, but I wasn't sure. Barnes (07:41):At that point, when you win that much money, what happens? Do people emerge from a secret room and come get you? Cubby (07:46):It was ringing and then I thought I want $3,800 at first because I was like, what's happening here and then this old lady walks by and she goes, oh, honey, you did good. Then another person came up to me and then a little bit circle started. I said, I think it's like 3,800 and they go, no, it's 38,000. Leslie (08:06):$38,000. Are you the type of person that will walk away at that point? Because a lot of people, as you know, go the other way, and they lose it all. Cubby (08:14):I walk away when I'm up 400. I was not expecting this and then they're like, we can convert this to a check if you want or we can just give you cash. Barnes (08:23):Like right there, they do it? Cubby (08:24):Right there. Everything happens right there. Barnes (08:27):Wow, they take the tax out. Cubby (08:30):They mail you the, what is it? The W-2 or the 10- Barnes (08:32):Yeah. Cubby (08:34):They mail you that later in the year. So during tax time, and then you report it and all that. Barnes (08:39):So that sticks in my mind. What'd you do with the money? Cubby (08:42):You know what I did? I didn't go to an ATM machine for like years, because- Barnes (08:45):You kept it as slash mind. Cubby (08:47):I took the cash and they wrapped it in an envelope for me and a guy walked me out and I didn't put it in the bank. I know that sounds stupid. I'd literally just lived off it for like 10 years. Leslie (08:58):Bank robbers do that too. Barnes (09:02):You see why it's stuck in my head? Cubby (09:04):That's amazing. I love that story. Leslie (09:06):I didn't know that story. That's incredible. Barnes (09:07):My Leslie story is from New York. Also, one time when we were there, every year we did our show for a year there for MTV, and we were in the Empire State Building up on the deck. She turns to me and says, "Are we in the eyes?" Leslie (09:21):My husband loves this story. Barnes (09:24):I was like, "Fran, this is not the Statue of Liberty. It's the Empire State Building." Leslie (09:30):I was so innocent, you know. Cubby (09:33):This is why people love Leslie though. She's real, she's innocent, she's- Barnes (09:37):It just stays in my mind for some reason. When Fram's name comes up on my phone, I go right to, are we in the eyes? Leslie (09:45):That's staying in the Fram Hall of Fame, I might add. Barnes (09:48):QuiFit. Cubby (09:50):QuiFit. How can we top last week after the beginning of last week? Oh my God. Leslie (09:56):There's so many Barnes' stories, Cubby as you know. The fact that he doesn't like Stoli anymore, it's like because that was number one for him. Anyways, I digress. When we did a morning show together, we all had our top five list. Our fantasy top five Cubby. I think Brad Pitt was always number one on mine, but Barnes had a type as you can imagine. Barnes had a type, like Reese Witherspoon was always in his top five. Who else was in? Barnes (10:22):Number one forever. Leslie (10:24):Forever was Reese. Who else was in your, do you remember- Barnes (10:26):Jennifer Aniston. Leslie (10:27):Yep, yep. Barnes (10:30):They were the staples. Then the bottom three kind of rotated. Leslie (10:34):They rotated [crosstalk 00:10:35]. Barnes (10:35):Where's this going Fram? Leslie (10:39):Cubby, you remember the singer Dido? Cubby (10:42):Of course. Leslie (10:44):When Dido first came out at the radio station, the record rep brought her in. We did an interview on the morning show where we played her new song and she was lovely person. Really nice. So anyway, they leave the control room and Barnes immediately declares on the air that there's a change in his top five list. There's like an immediate change in the top five list. Barnes (11:05):I remember this- Leslie (11:05):Dido's going right to the top. Little did he know that Dido was in the hallway listening to this whole thing, because there's like speakers in the hallway, playing the morning show. They come back into the control room after they heard this whole thing. I think actually, she was probably delighted about it and she thought it was really cool. So she came back in, it was revealed that all of a sudden Dido is number one on Barnes' top five and then we all had dinner that night. It was a beautiful relationship. Barnes (11:35):It was the strangest thing. She was not known then. This was pre Eminem and all that stuff she did. Cubby (11:42):You kept in touch with her, right? I remember you- Barnes (11:43):For years. I haven't spoken with her in a long time, she's lovely. Such a cool girl. She would come to Atlanta all the time and we'd go out. We'd go to dinner. We'd go to Food 101 on Roswell road, we went to Prime at Linux. I remember that night. That was like a three hour dinner. It's not like all of a sudden Dido was my girlfriend all of a sudden. She wasn't, but it was just the weirdest thing. It's like high school, they left the room and I'm like, oh, they're not listening. Immediately, she's number one. Number one. Who's Reese Witherspoon. Cubby (12:10):Speaking of women, see my memory of Barnes, I guess it's more of a question. Barnes (12:16):I feel like I'm being attacked. Cubby (12:17):No, it's more of a question than it is a story but when I first met you, it was July, of 1991 when I first met you. Were you hitting on my date? That's my question I've always wanted to ask, because- Barnes (12:31):Who was your date? Cubby (12:32):I don't think you were hitting on her but you talked about how pretty she was. Barnes (12:37):Who was she? Cubby (12:38):I don't remember. I think her name was Alison and we dated for a year- Barnes (12:41):Well, maybe I was giving you credit. I don't recall hitting on her. Well, I wouldn't hit on your- Leslie (12:44):Wait, did she look like Dido? Cubby (12:45):No, she actually was brunette. So maybe not- Barnes (12:48):Well then there's your answer. There's no way. Leslie (12:50):He was always into blondes back then. Barnes (12:52):My top five was like, yeah. Cubby (12:54):Always blonde? Barnes (12:55):Always. Cubby (12:56):Okay, so maybe you weren't but I definitely think that it helped because I know how you appreciate a fine looking lady and we got to talking and you were like, hey, who's this fine, young thing? I don't think you said that but- Barnes (13:09):You make me sound like grandpa. I was 22 years old at the time. That's funny. That's what sticks in your head? That's your story? Leslie (13:17):That's hysterical. Barnes (13:18):For all these years? For 30 years? You've been thinking I was trying to pick up your 18 year old girlfriend? Cubby (13:25):She wasn't 18, she was like our age. Barnes (13:27):You were 19. Cubby (13:29):In '91, I was I just turned 20. Barnes (13:31):Okay. I'm sorry. You just turned 20. That's hysterical. Cubby (13:35):I have other stories of you. I have like, you and I did a bet together when I was working in Houston. and you were working in Kansas City and radio DJs we do these wacky things. Hey, if my team wins, I'll do this or you do that. We had a bet where the Oilers were playing the Kansas City Chiefs in the playoffs and if the Oilers won, you had to pump gas for your listeners. I can't remember what would happen if the Chiefs had won because I didn't have to worry about that. You lost and you had to pump gas and we got a lot of traction on, I believe in all the industry trade magazines on that. Barnes (14:11):I think the gas is probably because the Oilers, I'm assuming. Cubby (14:13):Well yeah, I get that. I can't remember what mine was going to be but that was our early radio days. Barnes (14:18):I had to pump gas for like three hours. Cubby (14:20):You did. I remember that. I remember that. Barnes (14:23):That was the worst. Cubby (14:24):It was your idea, too. Barnes (14:25):All right, thanks for reminding me of all these great stories. Good to know that you're still freaking out about your date. I love that. Leslie (14:32):Unbelievable. Barnes (14:32):Glad I hold that power over you, Cubby. All of these years. Cubby (14:35):Finally after 30 years, it feels great to get this off my chest, man. Barnes (14:38):All right. Leslie (14:39):I was getting ready to say pent up- Barnes (14:41):Yeah, something. Leslie (14:43):Are we ready for celebrity sleeve? You're ready to dive in guys? Cubby (14:46):Let's do this. Leslie (14:48):The Ellen DeGeneres saga continues. First of all, did you see that rumor that James Corden could be acting over her show? Barnes (14:55):What a perfect person to take it. Leslie (14:58):That's what the, "insiders" are saying. I think he'd be great. Barnes (15:01):He's probably the one driving the rumors now the most. Yeah, it's all true. It's all true, mate. Leslie (15:06):Her wife spoke up, Portia de Rossi is speaking up and her statement was like, to all the fans, we see you, thank you for your support. Then her brother, her brothers now coming out saying, okay, I need to say something. My sister is being viciously attacked and let me assure you, it is all BS. Barnes (15:25):I'm hearing the opposite. Leslie (15:26):Now I don't know if she's calling or the producers are calling these celebrities. Because you see a bunch of celebrities came out this week in her defense. Cubby (15:34):Katy Perry, I believe is one of them. Leslie (15:37):Katy Perry was one of them. Barnes (15:38):Kevin Hart and he got fried for it. Leslie (15:40):Now Ellen is, people are saying that Ellen is now going to quietly back up from her show because she feels "betrayed." Barnes (15:49):Quietly, with her how many millions of dollars? Leslie (15:52):She thinks she's a target and look, where there's smoke, there's fire. There's so many of these stories, and they just keep coming out. So let's see what happens. Cubby (16:00):There was like a kid I think not a kid, but they were like 11 years old. Barnes (16:05):He's like a VP of a marketing agency in New Orleans. I saw that. Cubby (16:08):Oh, it's a guy, right? Barnes (16:09):Yeah, it's a guy. Cubby (16:10):Okay. Yeah. Leslie (16:11):Well, I love it when two beautiful people get together and I will tell you social media was going crazy over this story. At the beach together, Bradley Cooper and Jennifer Garner. People want Jen to be in love after Ben Affleck had an affair with the nanny. People want her to be happy. You can't blame her. Barnes (16:29):Hey, Cubby? Cubby (16:30):Yeah. Barnes (16:31):Last time I was in LA at breakfast. Cubby (16:33):Who'd you run into? Where are we going? Barnes (16:34):I was sitting in my car, making a call and I heard this really thumping G Wagon, G Wagon, G Wagon come up and it parked right next to me like almost to the point where I couldn't open my door. Bradley Cooper. Leslie (16:45):Wow. Cubby (16:46):Were people confused on who was who with you next to him? Barnes (16:49):It was so confusing. It was two days after he won his Oscar and not one pap sign which was shocking. He went to this place, Heather, what's the name of the place where all the shops and- Heather (17:01):Farm Stands. Barnes (17:01):The Farm Stands in Brentwood. There's a great breakfast place in there. You used to be able to see people there all the time and Jennifer Garner was one of them that live in that kind of Brentwood heavy estate big huge, like $20 million house area. He popped up with his really tacky- Leslie (17:19):Shorts? Barnes (17:20):No, like the warm ups and a messy shirt like just out of bed and not one person was out there and there's usually paparazzi all around that place. Cubby (17:29):Was he by himself? Barnes (17:31):No, because then I walked in with him. Yeah, but he was by himself. Leslie (17:36):Barnes was hoping for like a buddy cop movie of he and Bradley Cooper. Barnes (17:39):That was my moment. Where are the pap when you need them? He was on the on a phone call when he pulled up and you know when it's really loud in your car and people pull up at a light and you can hear everything going on? Cubby (17:49):Yeah, it sounds like the Charlie Brown teacher. Barnes (17:51):Yeah. So he pulled up and his windows were down and he was blasting somebody, some guy, probably his agent or something. It was really random. Leslie (17:58):Remember the rumors of Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga when they filmed the movie together and people were like, ah. I don't know, but anyway- Barnes (18:05):By the way, I took a picture. Leslie (18:06):You did? Send it to us. Barnes (18:07):I put my iPhone up to my ear like I was on the phone and I just hit the volume knob. Snap, snap, snap. Leslie (18:13):Unbelievable. That's a sneaky move. Barnes (18:15):He was right there. Leslie (18:17):We got two Simons in the news, Simon Cowell, who had a wreck on his motorized bike over the weekend. People are saying he broke his back and has to have surgery. Barnes (18:27):First that came out and said he just had a minor injury and then all of a sudden he had a broken back. Leslie (18:31):I know. I don't know if he had a broken back or what but I've heard conflicting stories. Barnes (18:35):You know when you have a broken back, right? I don't know if there was like a question. They had to determine it. Leslie (18:40):Then there's Simon Fuller, the guy who owns the Idol franchise. Have you heard this? Barnes (18:45):No. Leslie (18:46):He wants to have the first of its kind show about forming a supergroup from TikTok. Cubby (18:54):My gosh. Leslie (18:55):Here we go. Cubby (18:57):It'll probably work though. I got to be honest with you, it'll probably work. Leslie (19:00):We do have a story about TikTok later and somebody who just broke off TikTok. So because Hollywood is out of ideas, we have reboots. We have all these different franchise installments and here we go, and revivals. Have you heard about A League of Their Own, a reboot coming to Amazon? Barnes (19:18):The movie? Leslie (19:19):Yep, a TV reboot of A League of Their Own is coming to Amazon based on the movie. That's one. Cubby (19:25):Not much original stuff much. Leslie (19:27):Here's another reboot, although I'm very happy about this reboot. Chip and Joanna Gaines are rebooting Fixer Upper because they own a network now. They have their own network. It hasn't launched yet. It's called Magnolia. So they're going to reboot that and it'll be huge because, like me, there are a lot of people that would just watch hours of Fixer Upper. Barnes (19:46):Those two kill it. They kill it. Leslie (19:49):Nev Campbell, reportedly signed on for Scream 5. Barnes (19:54):Where has she been? Leslie (19:54):I didn't know there was a Scream 3- Cubby (19:57):Or 4. Barnes (19:57):Where has she been? Leslie (19:57):Remember, our buddy David Arquette's going to be in it too. I don't know where Nev's been. Here's another reboot, or revival, Who's The Boss? Barnes (20:08):Man, Hollywood is out of ideas. Leslie (20:11):With the original stars by the way. Tony Danza, Alyssa Milano returning to reprise their roles. Barnes (20:19):30 years later? Leslie (20:20):Yeah, 30 years later, with Milano's Samantha now all grown up and a single mom. She's living in the same house as the original series. Barnes (20:28):Let's bring back Gilligan's Island. Leslie (20:31):We should. Modern day. Barnes (20:32):Where's Love Boat? They tried that again. Fantasy Island. Cubby (20:35):Yeah, don't get me going man. The Jeffersons, Good Times. I loved all the 70s and 80s and 90s shows. Leslie (20:40):Love Island, season two in Las Vegas. It's coming out, August 24. Barnes (20:46):How are they going to pull that? Their advertising during Big Brother which started this week. Leslie (20:49):What is Love Island about? Barnes (20:51):It's the typical, it's just a slight twist of every other dating show but they bring the beautiful people with a bad attitude. They all want to be social influencers. I think the elders get booked on this show so they can try to get a blue check and be an influencer. Cubby (21:03):Were you satisfied with your Big Brother first episode of the season? Barnes (21:07):I was very disappointed. They announced it was Big Brother all stars and all stars is a stretch. Don't get me wrong. I'm going to watch every minute of it still, but they had people that were booted on their season night one. How do you call them an all star? They didn't have any of the banner names like Mike Boogie or Dr. Will, any of those people that were big personalities on the show. Leslie (21:28):What a disappointment. Cubby (21:29):No Mike Boogie? Barnes (21:30):No. None of my came back. It's all like B level, C level Big Brother players. Multiple. Cubby (21:36):Leslie and I have no idea what you're talking about. Barnes (21:38):Come on. Mike Boogie. Everyone knows Mike Boogie. Cubby (21:41):You know Mike Boogie? Leslie (21:41):I have no idea who Mike Boogie is. I like the name though. Hey, by the way Lizzo, I don't know if you're a fan. I'm a fan. She has just inked her first TV deal with Amazon Studios. Barnes (21:50):Who? Leslie (21:52):Lizzo. Barnes (21:52):Oh, yeah, she's talented. Leslie (21:54):Ariana Grande is dropping another fragrance called R.E.M. I was like, wait a second. That's one of my favorite bands, R.E.M. What? What? Barnes (22:03):That's so confusing and so lawsuit worthy from the most non commercial band on the planet, REM. I have to think that they're already, I mean it's R.E.M. Leslie (22:13):Wait a second, Cubby, you're in the pop world. Did she have a song called R.E.M? Like, what is this based off of? Cubby (22:19):Not that I know of. There was never called REM. Maybe it was an album track but no, I don't know where that's coming from either. Did you guys ever buy a fragrance though from a celebrity? Barnes (22:28):I wear J.Lo all the time. No, of course not. Cubby (22:33):I thought maybe she had male fragrance. I wasn't sure- Leslie (22:36):One time we interviewed Kiss and they gave us some and I threw it away. Barnes (22:43):You don't want to smell like Paul Stanley? Cubby (22:44):There was a Kiss interview- Barnes (22:46):It smells like Michael Stipe that would make it really strange. Cubby (22:50):It's the end of the world as we know it, man. Leslie (22:52):This is shocking. E! News has been canceled after three decades. Barnes (22:57):That's pretty wild. Leslie (22:58):Streamlining their programming and restructuring, "to internally create more efficiencies." That's what NBC Universal said. Well, listen, The Pop Culture Show could take their place. We're right here, people. E! we're right here. Finally, this was actually kind of funny. We all know that Gordon Ramsay has a bit of a temper, so to speak, but now he's critiquing people's meals on TikTok. Barnes (23:22):That's the perfect thing for him. That's his shtick though. That's his whole thing. Have you seen it? Leslie (23:28):Have you seen it, Cubby? Cubby (23:28):I have not. Barnes (23:31):People do these little cooking demonstrations on TikTok. They're little quick, how to do whatever. Here's one of them. It's real quick and he splits and rips on them. (singing). Barnes (24:01):So he gets millions of views for that. Leslie (24:03):Did he just say you don't know how crap you are? Barnes (24:05):Yeah. He pretty much says the same thing in every one of the thesis. Cubby (24:11):Is there a series of these? Barnes (24:12):Yeah, just on his page. Cubby (24:13):Right. Okay, that's funny. Leslie (24:15):Ah, that's your celebrity news for this week. Barnes (24:17):Who's the artist that broke this week, this song is hysterical on TikTok. Leslie (24:22):Well, first of all, she's gotten millions of views on TikTok. Her name is Priscilla Block, but she released this country song and this I think is the first time this has ever happened. Cubby, I don't know if you've ever heard of this or not but her song went number one on iTunes After debuting it on TikTok. I mean, that's incredible. Barnes (24:41):Check this song out. I have to give her credit. The plan to get this out there was brilliantly executed and she works it and it's a step above a karaoke song. Leslie (24:52):It's like a country song. Barnes (24:54):It's got funny lyrics. So here's what it sounds like. Barnes (24:56):(singing). Barnes (24:56):It's two turntables and a reverb. Barnes (25:09):(singing). Barnes (25:14):She took like the, how to make a country song 101 post and put this together. Cubby (25:19):It really is simple. Barnes (25:20):Yeah. Barnes (25:21):(singing). Cubby (25:21):I feel like we're at a county fair. Barnes (25:26):Yeah. Barnes (25:27):(singing). Barnes (25:31):Let me get to the hook. Here's the hook. Listen to this. Barnes (25:54):(singing). Barnes (25:55):If you don't like these love handles, you can find me at McDonald's and trust me, you'll be loving it. Leslie (26:01):That's not the song that went to number one. Barnes (26:04):I thought that was it. Thick Thighs. Leslie (26:06):No, that's one of the funny songs. The song that went to number one was this heartbreak song called, Just About Over You, which is more of a serious country song, but that's one of our funny songs. Cubby (26:17):If that was number one, that would kind of freak me out a little bit. Leslie (26:20):No, she has a new song called Thick Thighs but the one that went to number one is called- Barnes (26:23):That's Thick Thighs. Leslie (26:24):That's Thick Thighs. The one that went to number one is called. Just About Over You, Priscilla Block. Barnes (26:29):Have you seen the new Reels' feature competing now with TikTok's? You got Microsoft trying to buy TikTok, you got Trump trying to end TikTok, you got Instagram trying to exploit TikTok and they come out with Reels. Leslie (26:41):I did. I have seen a few of those with celebrities and stuff. They're okay. Barnes (26:45):If you really want to get the review and I wanted to hold off and find out, can you grab the review team? Leslie (26:51):We have a review team for Reels? Barnes (26:53):Would you mind grabbing them? Yes, we have 15 year olds available for a quick review of the new Reels features on TikTok that would be Mallory Barnes and her friend, I don't want to out her friend. She can say her name if she wants to be outed on- Leslie (27:06):Oh, get your daughter on the show. That's great. Barnes (27:08):Yeah, come on in review team. Here they come. Cubby (27:10):So the to me, Reels is a backup for me. I'm still a TikTok guy. I love TikTok and I haven't checked out Reels yet because I'm like, I'll go to that when I really need to. Right now, TikTok is still up and running. Barnes (27:20):Okay. They can't hear you but say hello, Mallory Barnes. mallory (27:23):Hello. Eva (27:24):Hi, I'm Eva Russell. Barnes (27:26):So we have two experts here on TikToking and on the new Instagram Reels. What are your thoughts, one at a time? We'll start with you. What's your thoughts on the new Instagram Reels? Eva (27:37):I think it needs to be developed a little bit more honestly. The features that they have don't really compare to the features TikTok has, but I think they probably could develop it enough to get to the same level, maybe. Barnes (27:51):All right, Mallory Barnes. What do you think? mallory (27:53):I don't really like it. Barnes (27:55):You told me yesterday it sucked. mallory (27:57):Yeah, I think that. Barnes (27:59):Why? Why does it suck? mallory (28:00):Because they're just trying to make it like TikTok and I don't think you can make it like TikTok. I don't know. Barnes (28:07):Who's the hottest thing to listen to right now out there. mallory (28:09):Taylor Swift. Barnes (28:11):Taylor Swift. What about you? Eva (28:13):Yeah, Taylor Swift is good. Yeah. Leslie (28:15):Those are really good reviews about Reels. So basically it needs development. Barnes (28:19):Go to your audience, people if you want a review. Thank you review team. Leslie (28:22):Thank you very much. Cubby (28:23):Thank you, ladies. Barnes (28:24):All right, go back to sleep. Leslie (28:25):You know what's sad, it reminds me of whatever happened to Vine. Barnes (28:29):That was only here for 10 minutes. Cubby (28:31):So when Vine went away, I was bummed out and TikTok came back around but it goes to show guys, it's all about first in the category. TikTok is ruling this category. It's going to be hard to break them. All right guys, are you ready for my feature that could have a Grammy Award winning guest? Barnes (28:47):I already forgot. We got so busy on the show. I forgot you teased a guest and again didn't come through because I see nothing. Cubby (28:54):Play my intro please. Barnes (28:55):Okay, get magical. Speaker 1 (29:00):This is Cubby's pop culture throwback, a rewind into the vault of music, movies and moments. Barnes (29:06):By the way, who do you know that you get special intros for segments? There's no celebrity sleaze intro. Leslie (29:13):I know, I'm feeling a little neglected. Cubby (29:14):I'm surprised Fram hadn't bitched about that. Fram, do you want your own intro for your sleaze? Leslie (29:19):I'm not a bitcher. Barnes (29:21):There's your quote of the week. I'm not a bitcher. Cubby (29:24):This week we're looking back at what was popping in 1994. Movies, TVs and music. Barnes, Leslie, where were you guys in 1994? Do you remember. Barnes (29:33):I was sitting right across and Leslie Fram at 99X. Leslie (29:35):99X. Cubby (29:35):There you go. So at the box office, this week in 1994 it was all about this movie. Speaker 8 (29:43):How dare you come into this office and bark at me like some little junkyard dog? I am the President of the United States! Speaker 9 (29:49):How dare you sir! Speaker 10 (29:51):Paramount Pictures presents, this summer's most electrifying motion picture. Clear and Present Danger. Cubby (30:00):Harrison Ford and William Defoe ruling the box office. Leslie (30:02):That whole series, so good. Cubby (30:04):On TV, this week in 1994. Of course, we were still watching Seinfeld. Whenever you bring up a 90s pop culture it's Seinfeld, but we were also watching another big show. Do you know this TV theme? Cubby (30:21):(singing) Cubby (30:21):Anybody? Barnes (30:23):No. Cubby (30:23):That would be ER. ER ladies, gentlemen. That show ruled. Barnes (30:28):I didn't watch that show. I mean, I watched it, but I didn't watch it constantly. Cubby (30:32):I was the same way. I wasn't loyal but I watched it- Leslie (30:34):George Clooney was on that show. Come on. Cubby (30:36):There you go. Now to music we go. We're looking back at this week in 1994. The number one song on the R&B charts. It was Janet Jackson and she had a song called Any Time, Any Place. Cubby (30:51):(singing) Cubby (30:55):This is a kind of a forgotten Janet song but it was good. Cubby (30:57):(singing). Cubby (31:03):All right guys, the number one song on the modern rock charts this week in 1994. It was a great song and you guys were probably playing it at 99X. I was in Houston playing it. It was a Counting Crows song, but one you might have forgotten about. Cubby (31:16):(singing). Leslie (31:27):Can't forget about any of those. They were all great. Cubby (31:29):Yeah, but this one is like- Barnes (31:31):It was kind of a beside. Cubby (31:32):Yeah, whenever you mention Counting Crows to somebody, they'll say Mr. Jones first and then Round Here and they forget Einstein on the Beach. Barnes (31:38):I love that. What movie was that from? It was that movie. We started playing it. We were playing it and it picked up steam and it was such an odd song because it wasn't on an album. Cubby (31:50):Also Rain King, another great tune that was kind of- Barnes (31:52):Great. August and Everything After was such an unbelievable album. Cubby (31:56):I got the last one here for you on the country charts. It was all about John Michael. Montgomery and the number one song in America back this week in 1994 was a song called Be My Baby Tonight. Cubby (32:08):(singing). Cubby (32:12):The number one song this week on the pop charts, this week in 1994 and it would stay number one for three solid weeks is the song. Cubby (32:22):(singing) Barnes (32:23):I love her. Barnes (32:25):(singing). Cubby (32:25):I'm very fond of the song Lisa Loeb, and Stay from the Reality Bites soundtrack. Such a great song. Leslie (32:32):One of my all time favorite songs. Cubby (32:34):It never went away. It was just played on the radio forever and still played today. Barnes (32:38):This is the what? What anniversary? Cubby (32:41):This would be, well let me do the math here. 1994, what is that? 26 years ago, this week that that song went to number one and that song has such a great story and the artist Lisa Loeb is probably one of my faves of all time and- Barnes (32:56):Cubby? Cubby (32:57):What? Leslie (32:57):She was so cool. Lisa Loeb. So cool. Cubby (32:59):You guys interviewed her. Barnes (33:01):All the time. She was on our show a lot. Here's the thing Cubby. You have your own branded Cubby's pop culture throwback segment and you bring all these people up and I know this person and we have this person and we have these guys. You never really do anything and have them on the show. So you don't put your money where your mouth is and that's getting kind of old. I just wish you would for once, instead of having a clip half the person. Cubby (33:25):All right, hit that button. Hit the button third from your right, Steve. Now say hello, Lisa. Lisa Loeb (33:33):Hello. Cubby (33:33):I got Lisa Loeb for you guys. Barnes (33:37):Wait a minute, but Cubby- Lisa Loeb (33:38):Hello. You say. Barnes (33:41):No, you score boarded and you got a Grammy winner. Cubby (33:44):On her anniversary of Stay being the number one song in the country. Lisa Loeb, good to have you my dear. Barnes (33:49):Hey, Lisa. Lisa Loeb (33:50):Hello. It's so good to be here. You know you, well, all of you are very important to this song, but Cubby especially because he and you guys down at KRBE, when you were there, decided to play the song on the radio and that started a big, not a tumble. That's a big word, but it started a wildfire, an avalanche, something positive that, something positive. Cubby (34:12):Because you were on you were unsigned and we heard this song and we were playing it and I remember, if I remember correctly Lisa, Skip Bishop at RCA Records called us and said, "What is this song you're playing off of our soundtrack?" Because wasn't Reality Bites on RCA soundtrack. Lisa Loeb (34:28):Yes. So I was an unsigned artist. I had licensed my song, that's very technical, to RCA. So I was an unsigned artist and it was on the Reality Bites soundtrack, which was one of the best mixtapes basically that you could be on with U2, and Crowded House and I think, now I'm like who was on there. Lenny Kravitz, I don't know. Juliana Hatfield. It really ran the gamut. A lot of different types of artists and it was so cool. The song wasn't out as a single yet and you guys decided to pick it up and play it like a single. Cubby (34:57):This was back in the day when computers were monitoring radio stations and the record company said, you're playing the song like 50 times a week. Then it was already a proven hit in Houston and then I believe it just snowballed from there for you. Barnes (35:10):Weren't you the first artist to have a number one without a record deal? Lisa Loeb (35:15):Yes, and it's really still unusual. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more now because things are so independent. Now you're able to really put your music out. I think it wasn't until Macklemore put his song out, that they went to number one and they were independent. I will say it does take a team like people like Skip Bishop, who is the head of the radio promotion over there at RCA Records. Once you guys started playing it, which was really the first big step, then the record company and Skip Bishop really helped push that along and make sure that I went to every single radio station in the United States and the world, at 6AM. Leslie (35:54):The song's still played on the radio because it's timeless, Lisa. Tell us about writing that song because you didn't really write it for Reality Bites. Lisa Loeb (36:01):No, I didn't. I wrote it in New York City. I started in New York City. After I'd graduated college, I was in an argument with my boyfriend who was also my co producer at the time. I was like writing and it's funny because usually I write things a little bit more shielded and shrouded in mystery. This was just like, we were in an argument and I started writing about it, and I wanted to write a song also, at the same time, that was what was happening with the lyrics. Lisa Loeb (36:26):With the music, I heard that Daryl Hall from Hall & Oates, was looking for songs for his solo record. So I was thinking about Hall & Oates and those old songs like Sarah Smile, those great kind of blues songs with those great licks, guitar licks. So I started writing a song to a groove, and it was, if you listen, it has a little bit of, I have a guitar. Well, I happen to have a guitar right now. You can hear it kind of this. Because it's like (singing). Lisa Loeb (36:59):You know that kind of groovy like, it's not groovy, but it's a groove. I tried to write a song for Daryl Hall and then opportunity, unfortunately, it was not actually there or went away or whatever but it sort of inspired the feeling of the song. Then I wrote this weird song that doesn't have a chorus that's kind of like a book. It's turning the page as the story is being told. So it was an unusual writing experience for me, but it was a song that I played a lot in my concerts in New York City where I was living at the time at CBGBs and Lone Star Roadhouse and The Bitter End and all these places where you play in New York. Lisa Loeb (37:34):Ethan Hawke, he was my friend, he was one of the people who said, I really like that song. I was like, oh, cool. At one point, he asked if I had a copy of it that I could give to him to give to Ben Stiller, who was directing this movie that he was in. I was like, yeah, yeah and we scrambled to make sure we could put a newly recorded version of song Stay, which we were making for demo tapes, actually, for record companies were interested in and they wanted to know if we had recordings of some of my music. Lisa Loeb (38:02):So we had put together a band version of Stay and we gave that to Ethan on a cassette tape and he passed that along to Ben Stiller. Anyway, so it was written mainly for Daryl Hall. Barnes (38:15):What does it like to be, I mean, you really flipped the funnel, because here you have a number one song, no record deal and you're just like, come talk to me, baby. Because at that time, that was big record. Now it's so different. It's totally different paradigm. Lisa Loeb (38:32):It was exciting because I was an independent artist. I'd been writing songs since I was a little kid and making recordings in high school and all through college and developing what I thought was like a nice independent music career. We were getting really great crowds at our shows. I was playing at South by Southwest and a bunch of different music, like new music seminar. There are all these things that you would do as a new musician, to meet people in the industry and to get out there and to continue to develop your fan base. Lisa Loeb (39:00):It was really cool that after going to South by Southwest for a couple years and having different young A&R people coming to the shows, all of a sudden, that summer, that song was number one, all of a sudden. The same summer that I went to South by Southwest with my band yet again and now all the bosses of the young A&R people were like, wait, wait, who's that girl you've been talking about for a couple years? Lisa Loeb (39:20):Oh, wait, she's got a number one song on the, or this song is almost number one or number one on the radio. So it was amazing to flip it around and it felt it takes a lot to kind of, when you're a young musician, and even a lot of musicians, you're just very eager. You're very excited. You're like a freshman. You're like, oh, let's do this. We can do this- Barnes (39:38):What was the craziest thing that they threw at you? Lisa Loeb (39:41):Oh, I remember being on tour when the song was on the radio, but we weren't signed to a label yet. We were playing in Long Island I think and the bigwigs from Interscope took us to their mansion and let us go in their hot tub and they flew in on a helicopter to bring us pizzas from some special place. That was exciting, but yet even our A&R person who did sign with Jim Barbaro, as a young person who is in their early 20s, and I would still probably be excited about this today, they would take you to the grocery store, and you could buy any candy you want or like candy. Lisa Loeb (40:20):Or like, I'm taking you to a bookstore, and you can buy all the books you want. I was like, ooh, this is cool. You can buy any album you want. I would walk at a tower records with just bags of albums and CDs. It was crazy. Cubby (40:34):You don't mind talking about the song today, still. I really appreciate that. You still tell the great story and you're cool with being that song like such a part of your, being the biggest part of your life. Lisa Loeb (40:46):I definitely at the beginning, it was a little bit hard to be a kid who's like 24, 25, 26 years old and having been doing music my whole life and working so hard and putting out albums and people saying, oh, you're an overnight success. You just had that one song. To me, it was like, no, I've been working on singing and playing and recording my whole life. In the video, which was so cool that Ethan directed it, it was really, and I know the record company was excited that this famous actor is directing a video, but really what was cool about it was, it was a unique idea. Lisa Loeb (41:21):A one take video where I'm talking to the camera and telling my story, but I wasn't playing my guitar. So I had to fight this thing of like, oh, you're a pop singer, because I didn't have my guitar, you didn't see my band. You didn't know that I rehearsed with the band, and I tell everybody what to do and I write the songs and I arrange them and I work with, you didn't know the whole story. So for a few years, I did feel like I was fighting like, I'm a real musician, and you don't know the whole story. Lisa Loeb (41:46):Then I realized, soon thereafter, it might have been because VH1 behind the scenes was popular, watching some of the more seasoned musicians and the situations they had been through and even talking to musicians who were popular, and seeing how they looked at their hit songs, people who I was excited about in the 80s which seems so far away, but it was like two years before that or whatever. Lisa Loeb (42:08):Hearing them talk about it made me realize like, this is cool. Yes, I like when people know I've made almost 20 albums and I love when people know different songs, but to even have that one song that connects with people is such an amazing thing. Because I play live so much and even now I'm not playing live in a venue of course, but I do a lot of Facebook lives and Instagram lives and I have a fan club and there's so much connection with the fans that cameo messages. Lisa Loeb (42:37):I get to feel and hear those stories about the song and what it means to people and that means a lot to me. I was a big music fan growing up. I was a DJ growing up. I love hearing that from the other side. So I appreciate that- Barnes (42:50):Whoa, whoa, whoa, you were a DJ? Lisa Loeb (42:53):I was a DJ in high school for three years. There was a radio station at the boys school. I went to the girls school in Dallas, and at the Boys School, St. Mark's school they let me be a DJ. I think I was the only girl. It was at 88.5 KRSM. From the songs, ad also I was like the music director but I wasn't allowed to be the program director because I wasn't at the boy school. They made me the music director. I used to bring in these big peaches crates of records, you know those big wooden crates, and I was this tiny little 15 year old. Lisa Loeb (43:24):I'm still like a tiny little something else year old, but I would bring in these huge crates of records and I would play everything you always wanted to hear, but maybe you didn't own. So it would go from Led Zeppelin to a local Dallas band to a man falling down the stairs to a new wave track or whatever I felt like playing and it was so much fun and I also DJ'd parties. I loved music so much. Lisa Loeb (43:47):I collected it, I'd met the artists, we'd interview people. So to be on the other side of that is I appreciate the whole thing. I feel like I have more perspective and yes, it's awesome when people know every new song on your new record, like the new record, I Just put out in February, but it's also awesome if people the words and have a relationship with a song that I put out 26 years ago. Cubby (44:12):Well, it's so cool that you, I mean, again, you've done so many huge things and you still don't mind talking about how it all started. I want to talk about some of the new music actually. You sent me a song that came out a few months ago. It's called This Is My Life. Now, was this a one take video by the way? It was a pretty creative video. Lisa Loeb (44:30):This is not a one take video, but we did shoot it in my house and nowadays, it's funny. Back when we started making records in the 80s and 90s, you had a couple of videos. Now you need a video for every single song on your record. So we made 11 videos for the record A Simple Trick to Happiness and one of the videos is, This Is My Life and I'm playing an enormous Jenga game. Because life is kind of like Jenga, you're carefully trying to make the moves and then it can all fall apart. Then you build it up again and you start over again. In the video, there's more than one of me. It's like inspired by Bewitched. Cubby (45:03):I want to play you a little bit of your song. Check this out. Cubby (45:14):(singing). Cubby (45:34):All hook, baby. Nothing but hook. Lisa Loeb (45:37):That chorus weirdly, I don't know if you know The Monkees very well, but it's funny because the verses to me feel very much like Spoon. I love the band Spoon and they're very like tight and chunky and it reminds me of the 60s sort of blues inspired music of the who and those bands that I love so much. Then the chorus is I really wanted it to feel like this song Randy Scouse Git. There's a song called Randy Scouse Git by The Monkees and it's just like crazy and over compressed and everything's swirling around and we just kept having to add things, add things, add things to make it as noisy as possible. Leslie (46:11):What I love about this new record is you exude positivity. You always do. So you hear a song from you and it's Lisa Loeb, but even in the song Shine that you had, it's such positivity about life. Is this album really about looking inward and saying, you know what, this is my life and I'm happy, and I'm enjoying the simple things in life? Lisa Loeb (46:30):It is. It's funny, it's like, some people listen to it and say it's very positive and other people I've heard say, oh my God, it's so depressing, but in a good way. It is that. It's like I've always looked at things and as I've gone along, I've been able to put my finger on it and I even named an album this, The Way It Really Is. I like looking at things the way they are and the album is very personal to me. Lisa Loeb (46:50):I didn't try to hide things or anything. I wrote songs that were very important to me right now and I've found, it's been out a couple months. I find that other people in their lives really can relate to it because it does acknowledge that things can be hard, and things can get in your way and things aren't always the way you expect which now more than ever, oh my gosh, who knew what was happening right after the album came out that we would close everything down and have this crazy virus happening and all the racism and things just bubbling to the top. Lisa Loeb (47:22):So right in our faces all the time and all these important things and things can be really hard but you can realize and in the songs, like you said there can be positivity you realize, wait, I have what I need, or wait even with all the bad stuff I look in my life and you know what, there are some really cool things here and trying to appreciate those things. Lisa Loeb (47:44):I have a song called Another Day that's on the record and we just shot a video for another song in my house. We decided to shoot a lot in my house because it was such a personal album and we just shot another video we had to move all this stuff around the house to get it where it needed to be. So all of a sudden, I started picking things up like mom's, no offense to anybody, but often moms are just picking up, picking up, picking something off the floor, picking things up. Lisa Loeb (48:11):I told the videographer, the director I was working with, I'm like, start shooting me. This is the video for Another Day, because this is what it's about. It's those everyday moments and Cubby, you know now that you've got this baby, cute, it's just like, it's oh my gosh, oh my gosh, this is tough. I'm picking up this thing, all these little things in my daily life. Then just this glimpse of a moment that just makes everything worth it and it's just this unusual thing and I realized that's what it is while I'm picking up my entire house. Lisa Loeb (48:41):Then there's the thing that you see or a thing that you interact with your family for just a moment in a positive way. Not always positive but in a positive way. So the song, Another Day captures that. We can do this for another day, but like I say in the song, some of the days are not enough. Sometimes it's just so tough. Barnes (48:58):Is your song, My Third Bottle of Wine on there also? Is that on this album? Lisa Loeb (49:03):It's not yet. I do not drink enough, you guys. It's my problem. I drink coffee in the morning and now I drink a little more coffee in the afternoon, but I just don't drink enough. I tried, every year. Ever since 1994, there was like more in '94. I'm going to drink more. It's like my goal. Barnes (49:22):The one problem you cause in households with your success, Lisa Loeb, which my wife is a huge fan. She won't say hi, she's sitting right here. Lisa Loeb (49:31):I saw her walk by. Hey. I see a hand. Barnes (49:33):She will be in the kitchen like dinnertime. It'll be Alexa, play Lisa Loeb and then this happens. Barnes (49:47):(singing). Barnes (49:47):Hold on, I want to hear your rap. Barnes (49:49):(singing). Barnes (49:56):I say that's a problem because you're having wine, you're hanging out and your children's music gets mixed in with your regular music and Alexa doesn't know the difference and it's funny. Lisa Loeb (50:06):It is funny. I will say that a lot of the children's music is really, other than the nursery rhyme record which I did for Amazon, which I did like over 32 nursery rhymes. I didn't really appreciate nursery rhymes. I initially started making kids music, especially after my first record for kids. It was really for me, it was my nostalgia of growing up in the 70s. I'm actually I'm wearing a mood ring right now even, but it was my nostalgia. It wasn't because I liked kids or knew anything about kids. I loved, like even that song you just played from my album, Feel What U Feel, to me it's more like (singing). Lisa Loeb (50:46):All the songs we listened to rollerskating in the 70s and this era, where the grown up stuff and the kids stuff, it was a little bit more intertwined like the old Sesame Street from the 70s was really funny and clever and dry and grownups definitely could appreciate it. Then you had grown ups stuff like the Donny & Marie show and Fernwood 2 Night and stuff that was just so, and Steve Martin and things that appealed to children because they had a funny sense of humor and storytelling and so I wanted to do that. So that's what a lot of my kids music is. So it's okay if it gets mixed, even when I- Barnes (51:20):It's just funny because when you're drinking, the last thing I want to hear is (singing). It's just so funny. Lisa Loeb (51:27):Some people don't know the difference between the grown up stuff and the kid stuff- Cubby (51:29):You got to keep drinking, Steve. Lisa Loeb (51:30):Yeah, right. Barnes (51:32):That's the music that got you a Grammy. You've had such a weird career that's like, I would have given you a Grammy for Stay. Cubby (51:38):You got the eyewear from, that was 2010 I believe. You- Lisa Loeb (51:43):Yes. I have an eyewear line called Lisa Loeb Eyewear. Barnes (51:46):You're a total hustler. I love that. Entrepreneurs- Lisa Loeb (51:48):I just have lots of ideas and I like to do them. Leslie (51:51):Yeah, you're exploring all your passions, and when you're independent, you can do that, which is exactly what you've been doing successfully. Lisa Loeb (51:57):Well, when we all started out, you do one thing. Oh, you're a DJ. Okay, you're just a DJ, that's all you can do. You're not allowed to do anything else, but now if you have other ideas you can do them in it's totally cool. It's totally fine. I'm so excited that that is accepted and the norm actually. If you decided to open your jalapeno, whatever, your hot sauce company, your pet shelter, whatever you want to do, people are interested in that. They don't think oh, you're not a real DJ now because you have a pet shelter. They think, oh, that's so cool. Barnes (52:31):We were just talking off air. I'm about to open my gazpacho company. I'm going to be selling my courts of Barnes' pacho. It's my ancient- Lisa Loeb (52:40):Are you serious? Barnes (52:41):Oh, yeah. Lisa Loeb (52:42):See, I think it's so exciting and people want to know. Barnes (52:45):I'm ordering labels today people. Lisa Loeb (52:47):See. Barnes (52:48):I'm going there. Lisa Loeb (52:48):My daughter has a slime business. I know all about labels, containers, shipping. We're getting into the whole thing. Cubby (52:54):By the way, Lisa, what do you do? You look exactly the same from when I met you. I don't know what you're doing. I don't know what pill you're taking to stay young. Lisa Loeb (53:02):I drink water. I drink water. I think I focus on sleep. I eat well. I eat what I like, which is really great. Like pizza, little mini ice cream cones. A lot of broccoli, a lot of kale, a lot of vegetables. So I eat well, I sound like one of those dog food commercials. I eat well, exercise, but I do. I walk every day or take a bike ride. I do strength training a couple times a week. Barnes (53:28):You don't drink a lot. Lisa Loeb (53:29):I don't drink a lot, which might be the thing. Also, I'm always interested in things, and I wear sunscreen. I wear sunscreen every day. Leslie (53:37):That's a good tip. Lisa Loeb (53:38):Sunscreen and hats, but I wear a mask now all the time outside. I try to stay engaged and things and I try to, like we were talking about my album. It's not about being positive all the time, but it's about I try to look inward. I try to see what's going on in my life, what I would like to change about how I'm acting, what I'm doing, what's going on with me and my relationships and my family. It's not always good, it's not always perfect, but just this kind of introspection, looking at my life, trying to figure out how to grow as a human. Lisa Loeb (54:12):I'm always learning. I try to think about, well, what can I do for fun? Like I love crossword puzzles. I started printing out my Sunday New York Times crossword puzzle on Sunday, and I put my schedule on the back and throughout the week, I just work on my crossword. So I try to stay engaged. Keep doing things that I love. Cubby (54:27):You actually did a crossword puzzle with, I was reading with Doug Peterson of the New York Times. Lisa Loeb (54:32):Yes, I got to write a crossword puzzle. Oh my gosh, that was a huge thing. I was thinking about random things that I'm so excited about. I've been doing the New York Times crossword puzzle for years and years. At first, I thought it was super boring. You know like those things where you listen to PBS with your grandmother and you're like, oh, my God, this is so boring and then you find yourself listening to NPR all the time. You're like, oh, okay. Nova used to be like, oh, they're putting Nova on the TV and now you're like, oh, that's really interesting. Lisa Loeb (54:58):So the crossword puzzle used to be really boring to me. I think it was difficult, but then I loved doing it and they asked me to write a crossword puzzle for the New York Times, which was just so exciting. I love that. It's just so different and it was like writing a song, this collaboration with another person to write a crossword Cubby (55:14):Was it hard? Lisa Loeb (55:16):It was hard, but I was working with a seasoned professional. If you've ever been on Southwest Airlines, this guy, Doug writes all the crossword puzzles for Southwest. He's written books and books of crossword puzzles. So it was really fun to work with him. Leslie (55:28):Do your kids know that their mom is Lisa Loeb. I mean, come on. Lisa Loeb (55:33):Sort of. It was funny last night was putting my daughter to sleep. I read with both kids every night. I think it's kind of selfish. It's kind of like watching a TV show because we read these great books. So I'm like, we got to get another chapter in. So I'm reading my own book and I'm reading books to all of them, but my daughter, I had all this makeup on because I do cameos, these messages and also they started doing Zoom meetings. Lisa Loeb (55:54):So I had a Zoom cameo where I get to actually hang out with somebody and talk to them. I did a bunch of cameos and I had some other stuff I had to shoot so I had eyelashes on and my whole full face of makeup, which I do way more than a lot of other people normally do during COVID-19. I have full face of makeup often. It's weird when I'm in the neighborhood and I see the other moms. I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm wearing like eyelashes and you could photograph me from a mile away and see all my features. Lisa Loeb (56:20):My daughter took my face in her hands and she said, "You look like Lisa Loeb." I was like oh instead of like, I do the mom lobe of like, I'm tired. Can you please pick up your socks? I had my lashes. Because when you have that makeup on, you just look like you're awake and you're from the 60s. Your face is stuck that way. Barnes (56:40):You look like you're in the 60s right now. What room are you in? I see a landline rotary dial telephone on the counter. Lisa Loeb (56:47):I know. I like that. That's the other thing. I am in my guestroom office. I do writing over here. I've been writing a lot at my grandfather's old metal desk, which I love and I've got all my books, well, not all my books, some of my books and stuff. This is the guest room, which for a while was the storage room because my husband turned the garage into his screening room. So everything from the garage came in here, but anyway, I've been clearing this out a lot. Lisa Loeb (57:14):This is a guest room/my work writing room but I'm obsessed with things from the past also. I think I'm going to do a YouTube something experience. Think about this, the things that you eat, the things that you listen to, you smell, you can go in a time machine. If you put on a song from the 70s like (singing). Play that, wear some 1970s clothes of like when you're a child, I don't know jeans that are really stiff. Cubby (57:48):But only serve food from that era. Lisa Loeb (57:50):Yes. So then you walk, and you literally you listen to the song and then you say can I have a piece of pepperoni pizza and a coke please. Maybe in an accent some from Texas. Can I have

Get Exclusive Pop Culture Show video interviews, video content and bonus video exclusively from our Instagram. Sign up for our Pop Cult and be the first to get show announcements, free stuff and insider information only available to cult members.Speaker 1 (00:00):Welcome to the Pop Culture Show with Barnes, Leslie, and Cubby. Barnes (00:04):Welcome to episode 22 of the Pop Culture Show Barnes, Leslie, and Cubby. Please rate, review, and subscribe. That's how it keeps us alive, and Cubby, the Pop Culture Show now on the iHeartRadio app and where else? Cubby (00:19):That would be ... Wait, what do you mean where else? Barnes (00:21):Tesla's. Cubby (00:22):Oh, Tesla's. That's right. We give you a hard time because every week you mention it, and now I had a chance and I failed. Leslie (00:29):Are we in Wennebagos? That's all I want to know. Barnes (00:31):Yeah. And coming soon to the Astro Van and also thanks to our listeners in Turks and Caicos. Cubby (00:37):Turks and Caicos, that was my first episode with you guys. And I learned that I was saying it wrong my whole life. Barnes (00:43):That's okay, you're good. How are you guys? Cubby (00:45):Good. Leslie (00:46):Really good. Cubby (00:46):How are you guys feeling? Leslie (00:46):You know what ... Barnes (00:48):I'm good, crazy. Leslie (00:49):I'm wanting to feel better. I want to ask you guys how much water do you drink on a daily basis? Barnes (00:53):Not enough. Cubby (00:53):Not as much as you, girl. Oh my goodness. Leslie (00:57):Several years ago I got kidney stones, and the doctor said, "You need to drown yourself in water." I just forget to drink water, so I bought this, I don't know if you've seen them or not, but it's a gallon jug. You can get it on Amazon, QuiFit, built for life. Barnes (01:11):A QuiFit? Cubby (01:12):What? Leslie (01:13):I don't know. Cubby (01:14):Fram. Leslie (01:17):Is that what's called? Cubby (01:17):A QuiFit? Leslie (01:23):Build life. Barnes (01:24):Fram, do you know what you're saying? Leslie (01:26):No, I don't. I just know I have a gallon jug in front of me. Barnes (01:29):Do you know what a qweef is? Leslie (01:30):No, I don't. Cubby (01:30):You don't? Leslie (01:30):Fit, I said fit. Cubby (01:33):Are you serious? Leslie (01:35):No, what is it? Uh-oh [crosstalk 00:01:41] Cubby (01:41):You don't know what a qweef is? Barnes (01:41):Next. Leslie (01:46):Did I screw up again? Barnes (01:48):Next. Just keep going, just keep going. [crosstalk 00:01:50]. Hold on to your QuiFit. Leslie (01:53):I bought this- Cubby (01:53):Do you drink that gallon in a whole day? Barnes (01:54):Hold it up. Leslie (01:55):Yeah, you start in the morning, and it gives you little inspirational quotes. Cubby (01:59):Oh, it's a Qui-Fit? Leslie (02:01):That's what I said. I said a QuiFit. What is going on here? Barnes (02:10):Oh my God. Leslie (02:11):It starts at 7:00 a.m. good morning, and as you go throughout the day in every two hour increments it's like, "Remember your goal. Keep drinking. No excuses." Anyway, it's a gallon a day. Barnes (02:21):Yeah, do people freak out that you're walking around with a jug with a bunch of writing on it? Leslie (02:26):Well the problem is now is coronavirus so I'm home all day. Barnes (02:29):Oh, that's right. Leslie (02:29):I'm dedicated. Let me see if I can do this for a month. Cubby (02:32):Can we have Leslie look up qweef live just so we can see her reaction when she reads it? Barnes (02:36):Leslie, go ahead. Leslie (02:36):Wait, what is it? Barnes (02:38):Google it. Cubby (02:38):Google it right now. Leslie (02:39):All right, how do you spell it? Cubby (02:40):Q-W-E-E-F. I just did it, and it came right to the top of Google. Leslie (02:40):Q-W- Barnes (02:40):Read us that definition. Leslie (02:40):Q-W-E-F. Cubby (02:45):Q-W-E-E-F. E-E-F. Leslie (02:49):Oh, E-E-F. All right, hold on a second. Barnes (02:53):What's the definition, Fram? Leslie (02:54):It's not what I said. Cubby (03:00):Oh man. I don't know if I can top that. Barnes (03:04):No. Read it, and we'll beep it. Leslie (03:08):I'll never hear the end of this. Barnes (03:09):Read the definition. Leslie (03:12):Flatulence can have causes that aren't due to underlying disease. Cubby (03:18):You don't really have to bleep it. Leslie (03:19):See a doctor if you- Cubby (03:21):It is a medical term. Leslie (03:22):... feel pain during sexual intercourse, pass gas, stool, or ... I can't even read this. Barnes (03:29):I mean, when we publish these they ask us, "Is this explicit?" We're only a few minutes in, and we're already explicit. Leslie (03:36):Thanks a lot. Barnes (03:37):Cubby, how was your week? Cubby (03:38):Well, to tell you the truth I needed that gallon of water Leslie has to put my arm out because my arm caught on fire last week. Leslie (03:47):What? Barnes (03:48):Your arm caught on fire? Cubby (03:49):Not really, so kind of. I had a grilling accident. Before I grill, which I love to grill, before I put the steaks on the grill I clean the grill, and I always put a little cooking oil on it. And then I usually wait a couple of minutes, and then I turn the gas on because it's propane, and then I fire it up. Well, there was some thunderstorms moving in, and I knew my time was limited, so I sprayed the oil on, and then I fired up the propane and didn't wait as long as I probably should have. Barnes (04:16):Wait, did you qweef it? Cubby (04:19):So then I lit the grill, and I had a mushroom cloud over my town. It was like, poof. But my right arm totally all the hair singed off, and you know that nasty smell hair makes. Leslie (04:29):Awful. Cubby (04:31):It is awful, and it just hung around on my arm all night. Finally I said, "Honey, I got to take another shower." It just smelled so bad. So, yeah, a near death grilling experience was the highlight of my week. Barnes (04:40):That was huge. Cubby (04:42):Yeah. Barnes (04:42):I jumped on a plane for the first time since February. Went to Houston for a shoot, and do you know what a mask hole is? Leslie (04:52):No. Cubby (04:53):No, I don't. Barnes (04:54):It's a term. It is an individual who wears a mask in a way that makes it completely ineffective like below the nose, under the chin, or back of the head. Think about that when you see them. There was a maskhole sitting in front of me, and he had the mask covering his mouth, and that was it. Leslie (05:11):Oh boy. Barnes (05:12):And you just want to go, "Dude, really? Do you understand why you're wearing a mask?" And there are arguments whether the masks work or not. But anyway, that's a maskhole. The coronavirus thing seems to be getting worse. Cubby (05:24):It does. Leslie (05:25):Yeah, and it's terrible in Tennessee as you guys know. Barnes (05:28):It's so bad. Leslie (05:29):What's going on in Georgia? Barnes (05:30):Same thing. Between nightly riots, coronavirus- Leslie (05:35):Shootings. Barnes (05:35):... street racing, yeah, all kinds of stuff. Cubby (05:38):Speaking of COVID, actually Steven Mnuchin promises to scale back unemployment benefits in a new $1 trillion coronavirus package, and another round of checks are coming in August of $1,200 so another stimulus coming at you in August. Barnes (05:55):And they're trying to kill ... What you said, they're trying to kill the ... Diminish the, whatever, that $600 unemployment a week or whatever that was because they want to motivate people to get back to work. Cubby (06:03):Correct. Scale back the unemployment benefits to get rid of $600 bonus. Barnes (06:08):But the plane thing was pretty easy. It was an hour and a half to Houston, but there were maybe 20 people on board, and they board from the back of the plane forward, which they should do anyway. And then I got to Houston at 9:03, went to a shoot, was back on the plane by 1:25 and got back to Atlanta. Cubby (06:28):TSA was a breeze. Even though we're all pre-screened, still you don't even need pre-screening anymore, do you? Barnes (06:32):Well I have clear because I'm a diamond medallion and you get it for free if you hit that status with Delta, and so you have clear, but it's funny because there's no one there. You walk up, and it's just ... Cubby (06:42):It's clear everywhere. Barnes (06:43):Yeah, you don't have to touch it, which is great because they use your eyes. So it was pretty painless, anyway. Some announcements, next week on the show Butch Walker, big time producer, former band called the Marvelous 3 out of Atlanta [crosstalk 00:06:58] among other. Leslie (06:59):Huge solo career, yup. Barnes (07:00):Yeah. Among other bands, and solo albums. And the guy writes for people like Taylor Swift, people like that, that don't really do much. Leslie (07:08):One of the nicest guys ever and one of the best live shows ever. Barnes (07:11):Yeah, so we're going to do an on location from his farm in Tennessee. Leslie (07:14):That's right. Barnes (07:14):Everybody but Cubby unless you want to get on a plane. Cubby (07:16):How come I'm not invited? What's up with that? Leslie (07:17):Come on in. Barnes (07:18):You are invited. Come on. Cubby (07:20):Actually, I'm nervous about flying. I don't know why. Not flying itself. I love to fly, but I'm saying I can't get past this whole COVID thing. I'm still a little sheltered. Barnes (07:29):Also in August, Grammy winner Kristian Bush from Sugarland will be on with us, good dude who ranges from Alternative to Country. He can do everything and anything. Leslie (07:39):Also, producing too. Kristian's been doing everything. Barnes (07:42):Also, coming up on today's episode, Goldberg, Bill Goldberg from a secret location at his new bunker in Texas. He is such a great guy. I have a funny story to tell about going up to lunch with him. Leslie (07:58):He's Mr. Motivational. I love that. He's always positive. Barnes (08:01):Always positive. That guy when we would do appearances with him, Cubby, he would show up at whatever to promote like the celebrity softball game we had, and he would stay until every kid got an autograph. And that was at the height of his WWE. Cubby (08:12):I love him already. I love people that are just down to Earth and cool. Barnes (08:16):He's so cool. So Goldberg is coming up. Cubby (08:18):Well, we've talked often how we love our gadgets, and the iPhone 12 is coming, and there are already rumors going around. Now, Leslie you're- Leslie (08:27):I'm a Samsung person. I know, I know. Cubby (08:29):Right, yeah. So you can go ahead and take your headphones off. We don't need you. But Barnes- Leslie (08:33):Okay. What's going on with the 12? Cubby (08:34):Well, every time a new phone comes out there's always rumors going around on how it's going to look and all that. So they're saying it is going to be called iPhone 12. Some people were speculating maybe they're going to just change that up because they keep going in order, but it is going to be called the iPhone 12, and there's going to be four different iPhones. Now, Barnes, you're probably the Pro Max kind of guy, right? Barnes (08:54):I'm already on 14, bro. Leslie (08:55):What? Cubby (08:55):What do you mean? Barnes (08:56):Apple hooks me up. I'm two ahead. Cubby (08:57):Shut up, you're such a liar. Leslie (08:57):What? Barnes (08:58):I'm kidding. I'm kidding. You know these leaks come from Apple. Cubby (09:02):They do to get the hype going, right? Barnes (09:03):Yeah. Cubby (09:04):The iPhone 12, the iPhone 12 Pro, and the 12 Pro Max are the rumors. Apparently they're going to be bringing back the squared edges, which I'm not a huge fan of but ... Barnes (09:18):And metal I heard. Cubby (09:19):Right, around the edges and the corners like iPhone 4 and 5. They're going to be bringing that back. They always say this every time that they have a new phone coming, but apparently the camera is getting better, a new camera. Leslie (09:32):I think we should just all go back to the flip phone. Barnes (09:33):Yeah. Cubby (09:34):Hey, they've come back too. Barnes (09:35):Totally have, StarTech's. Cubby (09:36):They really have. Also, according to the rumors the iPhone 12 the 5G seems inevitable. 2020 is prime to be a big year for the rollout of 5G, and a lot of people are wondering if iPhones are going to support 5G, and it looks like it will. One more thing, look for a very powerful charger. You're going to be charging in no time. Barnes (09:57):They may be changing it, Cubby, right? They're going to change possibly from lightning to the C. Cubby (10:01):The braided lightning charging cables. Barnes (10:04):Oh, the braided one? Cubby (10:05):Yeah. Barnes (10:05):And then there's a rumor that they may not give you the cable with the phone. Cubby (10:08):Which is another way to make money, right, because you have to buy it. Barnes (10:10):Yeah, I'm assuming. It's getting ridiculous. Leslie (10:13):Apple loves to do that. Barnes (10:14):I'm surprised they're releasing it, and they're saying September 5th. I'm surprised they're doing it. Cubby (10:18):No. Barnes (10:18):No, not the fifth. Cubby (10:19):No, I'm already hearing mid-October all because of COVID. And that could be right. Again, this is the rumor mill. Barnes (10:26):I heard mid-October was laptops, and then the phones were coming in September. But I could be wrong. They always do it around that date, but during COVID when people are strapped for cash who is going to buy a $1,500 phone? Cubby (10:38):Right. Barnes (10:39):All right, show me some sleaze, Fram. Leslie (10:41):Well, the world lost a TV icon. Regis Philbin dying at the age of 88. I don't know if you guys saw this or not, but Letterman had just such an amazing tribute to him. He said he was like the Johnny Carson of television, the master communicator. Do you know that Letterman had him on more than any other guest, up to I think 130 to 150 times. Regis was his number one guest. Barnes (11:08):I was just surprised. I don't know why, he's 88. I don't know why I was so shocked to see it, that story come across. Cubby (11:14):Because we didn't hear he was sick. Leslie (11:15):He held the world's most ... According to the Guinness Book of World Records, he was on TV more than anybody else, guess how many hours? Cubby (11:24):Oh my god, 20,000, I don't know. Leslie (11:26):Yeah, 16,700 hours. It's really funny because last year I had a chance to talk to Kathie Lee Gifford because she moved to Nashville. That was an era on television where they were master story tellers, and she couldn't have said enough amazing things about Regis. Cubby (11:41):I can't believe you're talking about this, Leslie, because coming up later when I do my pop this week in pop culture I have a whole thing with Kathie Lee, and her final episode was actually this week 20 years ago. But I have the audio of her signing off, so listen for that coming up here in a few minutes. Leslie (11:56):Really crazy week with Kanye West and the Twitter rants that he had. It's sad because he suffers ... He's bipolar, and a lot of people are really upset and concerned about his mental health, but he did come out over the last 48 hours and apologize to his wife, Kim Kardashian. "I want to say I know I hurt you. Please forgive me. Thank you for always being there for me," because he accused her of many things, locking him up and being a white supremacist for apparently doing what she wasn't supposed to do which was speak about him publicly. Barnes (12:28):Little late on that apology, just a little. The damage might be done. Leslie (12:31):He said that Kris Jenner was Kris Jong-un like Kim Jong-un. Yeah, it was really sad, but apparently now he's apologizing. We'll see what happens. Justin Bieber went and visited him out in Colorado. Barnes (12:42):Well that should make everything better. Leslie (12:45):Yeah it should ... Speaking of the Jenners, Kylie, 22-year-old Kylie was you know is a billionaire, right? She has her own cosmetic company. She bought her daughter, Stormy, her dream pony that cost $200,000. Cubby (12:56):That's in their cup holder, probably in the car, $200,000. Leslie (13:01):Yeah, and she paid an extra $7,000 to $10,000 to fly the pony from LA to The Netherlands or from the Netherlands, and the pony is now in coronavirus, the pony is now in quarantine. Barnes (13:14):Wouldn't you like to be a supplier to them because you know you could just 10X whatever you're selling, 10 to 20X whatever the price is. Like how much is it? A friend of mine has a place called Classic Collision in Atlanta, and I went to go pick up a car one time, and one of their cars was there because he had the only shade of the specific blue that they were painting the Bentley. So they shipped the Bentley to him. They painted this Bentley this ridiculous powder blue, and then it goes back to them. These people just throw money around. Cubby (13:44):What are we doing wrong? Barnes (13:45):It's unreal. Leslie (13:45):200,000 though for her is like, what, 200 to us maybe. Cubby (13:49):I know. Leslie (13:49):Because she's a billionaire. Barnes (13:51):It starts with a sex tape, people. Leslie (13:54):Is that the key? That's the secret. Barnes (13:56):That's the secret. Cubby (13:56):Well that's how you and Leslie started your whole thing. Leslie (13:59):Yeah, exactly. Cubby (13:59):Back in the early '90s. Leslie (14:01):Let me just say this. One of the most heart wrenching things has been reading the Instagram posts from Orlando Bloom who is destroyed over losing his dog. Latest post, he did get a tattoo of his dog, Mighty, on his chest. "Mighty's on the other side now after seven days of searching from sunrise to sunset into the wee hours today, the seventh day we found his collar." It's a really long post, but it's really heart warming, and he basically searched the neighborhood. Every nook and cranny, but he just went on to say that they just had this amazing bond. Were you following those Instagram posts? Cubby (14:40):I was, I was, and I kept thinking well new baby coming soon, so there's a lot going on in their house. I was wondering when ... Isn't Katie due any moment now? Leslie (14:50):Yeah, so you think the hormones were hitting him? Cubby (14:52):Yeah, it probably was. Barnes (14:54):It's like corona, within six feet. Leslie (14:57):Now you guys know I've been obsessed with the Johnny Depp trial, but the funny thing this past week ... And he's been accusing her of having all these affairs, but his nicknames for people. He called Leonardo DiCaprio Pumpkin Head, and he called Channing Tatum, Potato Head, so it's really funny to hear what Johnny Depp says about all these other actors he thought Amber was having an affair with. I'm so into it. Barnes, Big Brother All-Stars premiering August fifth, the COVID-19 edition. Barnes (15:29):Oh yes, all-stars, 20th season. Leslie (15:32):You are such a Big Brother fan. I never got it. Cubby (15:35):[inaudible 00:15:35]. Do you watch it live or do you DVR it and catch up? Barnes (15:37):Are you kidding? I'm only, like, 10 minutes behind so I can miss the commercials, or 15 minutes, but no I watch it the night it ... You know when it came out it was on every night of the week originally. Cubby (15:45):I remember that. That was like what, '02. Barnes (15:48):Ish, yeah. And then it went to three nights a week I think, and now it's three or four. I'm there every night that it's on. You'll have to ... This is the time to get on, which quickly interject. Give me something to watch on Netflix, Leslie. Leslie (15:59):There's a ton of stuff. Barnes (16:01):I asked for one. Give me two, give me two things. Leslie (16:03):Okay. I'm going to give you two things, one that I just finished that I'm obsessed with, The Last Dance, about the Bulls and Michael Jordan. Barnes (16:10):Way to be on top of that, Fram, that's so March COVID. Cubby (16:13):Yeah. Leslie (16:13):Well it's new to Netflix so a lot of people are actually watching it now that didn't see it on ESPN. Fear City, about the Mafia in New York in the '70s and '80s. Barnes (16:22):I'm watching that. Leslie (16:23):What do you think so far? Barnes (16:24):It's good. It's very good. It's talking about how the Mafia, they're comparing it to some of the other cities right now like Chicago and Atlanta where all the crime is happening. It's where they're trying to take the city back, and New York was just so bad. And it goes through the five crime families. It's quite interesting. Leslie (16:38):Now, are your wives into chick flicks? Barnes (16:40):I only have one. Leslie (16:41):Well, Cubby is on the show too. Cubby (16:43):I'm on the show too. Barnes (16:44):Oh, I thought you were talking to me still. You're like, "Are your wives." I moved from Salt Lake City ... No, I never lived there. Cubby (16:51):My wife, Cocoa, we watch Married at First Sight. Barnes (16:55):Oh, that's good. See, you get on me for watching Big Brother, but you watch Married at First Sight. Cubby (16:59):Well Big Brother is just kind of played out to me, but Married at First Sight, 90-Day Fiance, and they have like a million 90 days. Barnes (17:05):I heard that's great. Cubby (17:06):You have 90-Day The Other Way, 90-Day This Way, 90-Day That Way. There's a million 90 Days but they're good. Leslie (17:11):Yeah, because Kissing Booth 2 is on Netflix. Barnes (17:13):Oh God. Cubby (17:14):Leslie, what do all your husbands watch? Leslie (17:18):Well, we love a lot of dramas, seriously love dramas. But I will tell you he did like The Crown, and it is coming back but not until 2022 because of COVID. Cubby (17:30):Everything's COVID. Leslie (17:30):It's unbelievable. Barnes (17:31):I have a good one for you both on Netflix. I told you about Liar, and you haven't watched it yet, Leslie, because you would have told me you did, and you're missing out. Leslie (17:39):I haven't watched it yet. Barnes (17:39):Cubby, do you have Netflix? You do right? Cubby (17:41):I do. We don't have time with the baby, but yeah. Barnes (17:43):I give you more of a break than Leslie. Liar is good, but you want to skip right to another British I would call it Liar meets The Affair, which The Affair I loved on- Leslie (17:54):I loved The Affair on Showtime. Barnes (17:54):Okay, okay, we're connecting Leslie. Leslie (17:57):I loved that show. Okay, go ahead. Barnes (17:58):Watch Doctor Foster. I believe there's two seasons. Doctor Foster, it's a woman who believes her husband is having an affair. First episode will get you, especially the last 15 minutes. Leslie (18:09):Okay. Barnes (18:09):You need to watch Doctor Foster on Netflix. Cubby (18:12):There's something I want to say about all these shows. Everybody wants to recommend shows to their friends, and then the friends always say, "I'll put it on my list," but there is no list. Barnes (18:21):Yeah, there is. Cubby (18:22):Everyone's lying when they say that. "I'll put it on my list." There's too much to watch. Barnes (18:26):No, but there's the Netflix list. Cubby (18:28):No, but I'm saying you're passionate about something. You're trying to sell Leslie on watching the show. Leslie will say, "All right, I'll put it on my list," but Leslie will you ever get to it? Leslie (18:37):Well here's the thing. Most of the stuff I've been watching lately have been recommendations from people like Barnes about The Last Dances, Billions. A lot of stuff have been recommendations, and then of course I fall in love with these shows and then I'm obsessed with them. Cubby (18:50):Right. Barnes (18:51):Get into ... You can go back to Liar, but I think you should skip ahead to Doctor Foster. Leslie (18:54):All right, I can do that. Barnes (18:55):And then you'll want to watch ... They're very different, but similar tone. They're UK. Leslie (19:00):Have you guys ... Have you watched anything on Quibi? Barnes (19:05):No, I'm not buying into the hype. Leslie (19:06):Because now Samuel L. Jackson and Ryan Reynolds are partnering for something on Quibi. I haven't watched anything on there yet. I know a lot of people are excited that Shark Week is coming back on Discovery August 9th, and then there's SharkFest. Barnes (19:20):Turks and Caicos. Leslie (19:21):On Nat Geo. How did this happen? Happy 40th birthday to Caddyshack. Cubby (19:28):They actually had it on over the weekend. AMC was airing it. They had a marathon on. It was great, with the 40th logo on there, it was pretty cool. Audio (19:34):I want you to kill every gopher on the course. Audio (19:38):Check me if I'm wrong, Sandy, but if I kill all the golfers they're going to lock me up and throw away the key. Audio (19:45):Gophers, [inaudible 00:19:45] not golfers. The little brown, furry rodents. Audio (19:47):We can do that. Cubby (19:48):Such a classic. Great clip by the way, but come on, you didn't have Rodney. Rodney was ... Barnes (19:54):No, I just thought it was so overplayed. Rodney's always the clip. Leslie (19:57):This is really strange, I didn't realize this by the little bit of trivia. Harold Ramis had realized that his two biggest stars never appeared together, so I guess they had lunch one day and wrote a little scene so that Bill Murray and Chevy Chase could appear together. And then he also said that originally he wanted the theme to be all Pink Floyd. Of course, I don't know if that would've worked out. Cubby (20:16):Wow. Barnes (20:16):That'd be strange. Leslie (20:17):Dark Side of the Moon instead of I'm All Right by Kenny Loggins. And finally, this is not going away. Lifetime is now getting into the Jeffrey Epstein business. Yup, they got a movie coming out, the Jeffrey Epstein Movie. Barnes (20:32):So they got something completely different than the Netflix thing? Leslie (20:34):Yeah, they're going to talk about some of the survivors. Audio (20:37):I was 19. He began to touch me aggressively. It quickly turned into an assault. Audio (20:42):He forced oral sex on me right there. And the more I kept trying to resist the more fun he was having. Audio (20:48):I was 14. I told him to stop. He told me, "I'll stop if you just take your underwear off." Audio (20:54):He want's to do whatever he wants to do. Audio (20:55):At 16 what happens if I say no. Audio (20:58):I'm going to fight back. Audio (20:59):Chilling firsthand accounts from those who lived it. Surviving Jeffrey Epstein, a two night event, premiers Sunday, August 9th at 8:00, only on Lifetime. Leslie (21:09):And there's your celebrity sleaze. Barnes (21:11):Let's talk music quickly. Some people dropped some stuff this week, and I want to play you a couple of clips so you're in the know of what's going on in the music landscape, the biggest one being Taylor Swift with a surprise album. Leslie (21:21):Huge. Barnes (21:22):She was hunkered down during corona and created this album over that time, and the numbers are unbelievable. That Cardigan video got 20 million views in one day. They sold 1.3 million in one day. Spotify 80 million streams. That's a record by a female artist in one day. Apple Music 35 million streamed. That's a record. Leslie (21:47):Again, folklore, and I'll tell you it just proves again what a great songwriter she is. Barnes (21:51):So I went to ... I called my daughter because if you want to get to the source of what's good on the Taylor Swift you call the daughter who is 18, and I said, "Okay." She lives and breathes if Taylor does something she's on it. I said, "What's the best song?" She said to me the best song was The Last Great American Dynasty, and here's a clip. Taylor Swift (22:12):(singing) Barnes (22:42):So she says that's the best on. Cubby (22:44):It kind of reminds me of Jewel in a weird way. Barnes (22:46):Ish. Cubby (22:47):That Jewel sound, which is not a slam. I love Jewel, but Taylor is huge as we all know. It just has that 1996 Jewel feel. Barnes (22:55):I listened to the whole album, Folklore, and I thought it was ... It's super chill for sure. I mean she's- Leslie (23:00):I think that's the best song on the record too, that and Cardigan, so I agree with your daughter, Barnes. Barnes (23:04):There you go. Maybe she's a music in the making, a music director. Leslie (23:06):Yeah, A&R Director. Cubby (23:08):I was reading that she did all this during quarantine because I had heard she had a lot of stuff stockpiled from past work like in the last year, and I thought for sure she just put this out with all the extras she never got to, but apparently this is all in the last few months. Leslie (23:24):Brand new. Cubby (23:24):Yeah, brand new. Leslie (23:24):I liked the Lover record too. Cubby (23:25):Yeah, it was great too. Barnes (23:26):Some more new music that dropped, August Alsina. You know that name because that is the dude that was in the entanglement with what's her name. Leslie (23:34):Jada Pinkett Smith. Barnes (23:35):Yeah. What's weird, guys, and I said this when we first reported on that when it came out, that August Alsina the name of this song is Entanglements. She made a point when Will Smith was talking about her being in a situation she called it an entanglement and corrected him. And I thought all along this was some big weird marketing play. What's going on here? Leslie (23:55):So you don't think he wrote this right after she said entanglement? Barnes (23:58):No. Leslie (23:58):You think this song was kind of in the can for a while? Barnes (24:00):No. He's been working on this album for two or three years. Leslie (24:03):Yeah. It's strange. Barnes (24:04):It's just strange that she's trying to make things better, and she's like, "No, it was an entanglement, E-N-T-A-N-G ..." Yeah, listen. Here, I have two clips. This is very weird. There are mentions about her and Will Smith. Rick Ross raps on this, so I kind of dig the rap. But here's one of the hooks from Entanglement. August Alsina (24:34):(singing) Cubby (24:34):So, it seems fishy. Barnes (24:36):It seems fishy. Even more fishy, listen to the Rick Ross rap. Tell me how many ... Listen closely. Tell me how many Will Smith things you hear in here. Rick Ross (24:46):(singing) Barnes (25:20):See. There's a few of them in there. Will power, and he talked about The Matrix. Remember when Will Smith was up for The Matrix and didn't get it. Cubby (25:29):Yeah. Barnes (25:30):Just strange. Leslie (25:30):I do think that Will Smith ... By the way, I love him as an actor. I think he loves to control the narrative. They both do. And I think they're trying to say, "Everything's okay." Barnes (25:40):But they're up to something. Cubby (25:41):Yeah. They're trying to get us all talking. Leslie (25:44):There have been questions about that marriage for years. Barnes (25:47):Must be a cut. Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani who if there was ever like, "Ooh, that gross happy couple," it is them. They are just so in love it is oozing from every wall. They put this out, this song called Happy Anywhere. Tell me what the problem is here, okay. This is Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani. Listen to this clip and tell me what is missing. Again, this is Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani, Happy Anywhere. Tell me what's missing. Speaker 17 (26:12):(singing) Barnes (26:33):What's missing? Leslie (26:35):Gwen. Cubby (26:36):Yeah. Barnes (26:36):Gwen Stefani. Her mix is so buried. Cubby (26:38):Right. You can barely hear her. Leslie (26:40):It's on Blake's new record, but I can tell you that the video, we premiered it on CMT and MTV premiered the video it's adorable. They're at his complex. They are in love. Let me just say that, in love. Barnes (26:53):We need to get him on the show, Fram. Come on. Leslie (26:55):He's a really good guy, but he's so busy. Barnes (26:57):I don't care. Leslie (26:57):Now obviously he does two seasons of The Voice every year, but he did this- Barnes (27:02):Come on. Leslie (27:02):Let me ask you about this. He did this Encore, you know the company that's doing all the drive-in concerts. He did the drive-in concert over the weekend. Gwen appeared as well and some other Country artists, but 300 drive-in theaters around the country, but it's a pre-taped concert. It was $100 a car, so you go in- Barnes (27:20):Why would you pay that? Leslie (27:21):It's $100 a car, so you can have six people in the car. Sold out everywhere, 300 drive-ins to see a taped concert. That's what the new norm is now. Garth Brooks did it. Would you go to a drive-in for a pre-taped. Barnes (27:34):No. Leslie (27:34):Unless it was something you just wanted to have some fun with your friends. Cubby (27:37):Why so expensive? Why was it 100 bucks? Leslie (27:38):Per car. Cubby (27:40):Per car. Oh, because you could have, like, five people in the car. Leslie (27:43):You could have up to six people in a car. Cubby (27:44):Oh, I get it. Right. Barnes (27:44):Get money, get paid. The last one we talked about Taylor Swift is so great at re-inventing herself. Every single time she puts out an album she takes a turn and goes a different direction. Here is the complete antithesis of that in a group that never takes a turn and puts out the same thing every single time. Have a listen. Tell me who it is. Speaker 18 (28:01):(singing) Barnes (28:01):It's the same very time. Cubby (28:02):Yup, and it'll be a huge hit. Speaker 18 (28:02):(singing) Barnes (28:10):When are they going to change the name of the band to Adam Levine? Because they don't even let the band in the videos anymore, and when did he shave his head? I somehow missed that. Leslie (28:29):He always has a different look. If you ever watched him on The Voice he had a different look every season, but ... Barnes (28:33):Shaved his head, and now he has a full on beard like something you would see the pilgrims out in the middle of nowhere. It's a completely different look. Cubby (28:44):But man, I tell you what, they've had a run though, right? Barnes (28:45):Amish, yeah. I like Maroon 5, but it's just funny. It's like they recorded 700 songs the first time they got together, and they're just putting out 10 every time. Leslie (28:54):He does have an amazing voice, though. You have to admit that. Cubby (28:56):I like them. Barnes (28:57):He totally does. I got off at the airport at LAX one time, and he was sitting in the very front waiting to get on the plane, and he had a black cap pulled down over his head. He's a stud. The guy is just like a super rockstar who's ... I like their first album better than any of them. Cubby (29:10):Have you ran into everybody at some point, Barnes? Barnes (29:13):I ran into Rick Ross at FedEx. Cubby (29:15):There you go. You need to have a weekly feature like who I ran into. Barnes (29:18):Just on people I ran into this week. Cubby (29:19):Yeah, who I ran into this week. Barnes (29:20):He was in a metallic silver either Lamborghini or Ferrari like it was a mirror, like a complete mirror. And he was a mess at the counter trying to get all of his stuff organized to send out. Leslie (29:32):When you run into somebody at the airport do you go up and talk to them? Barnes (29:35):At the airport? Leslie (29:36):Yeah, like if you saw- Cubby (29:36):Not unless I'm a really big fan. Leslie (29:37):Kind of give them their space. Barnes (29:39):Only person I have done ... Two people, Johnnie Cochran- Leslie (29:42):Nice. Barnes (29:43):... and Tom Landry. Cubby (29:46):Oh yeah, that's huge. Barnes (29:47):The two that you're never going to get another shot. Leslie (29:50):Yeah, I can see that. I can see that. Cubby (29:52):A lot of times I want to do it just because I want the ... Do it for the gram like for Facebook. But I usually don't go up to them because I feel bad. I don't want to bother them. Leslie (30:02):I did my first virtual concert a few days ago. Obviously I'm watching stuff on Facebook Live and Instagram but I went into Veeps, which is much ... There's a lot of these platforms out there now. There's Sessions and Mystro and StageIt. But Pete Yorn did his legendary album, Music From the Morning After. Barnes and I were able to play that when we worked at 99X. That record's like 2001, but he did the whole album from beginning to end, I liked the program because tickets start at 15 bucks, but then you can pay more and they give you these fun different levels. And I went ahead and just said, "I'm going to give them 100 bucks," since I was like, "Yeah, I get a hug for 100 bucks." It was really cool, and then if course I love watching the chat because you've got people from all over the world. So this may be the new norm for concerts for the next few years. Barnes (30:48):You paid for a virtual hug? Leslie (30:50):No, I paid 100 bucks for Pete Yorn because I love him. It was fun. Barnes (30:54):Women love them some Yorn. Leslie (30:55):Love Pete Yorn. Barnes (30:57):Man, they love that guy. Cubby (30:58):But you're right, Leslie. That is going to be the new norm for at least another year or two. All right, we've got somebody waiting to get on, and we cannot keep them waiting long because he'll kick our ass. Let's watch a scene first from his sitcom, which is so funny seeing him in this role. This is Bill Goldberg on The Goldbergs. Goldberg (31:15):Let's go. Come on 58. What the Hell is that. This ain't Sunday school. You're as useless as your communication degree. Well look at that, a tea party broke out at a football game. Get up, Lopez. I'll say when you have heat stroke. Speaker 20 (31:33):That's Miller's brother. Look at him. It's like this coach ate our coach. Speaker 21 (31:37):All I see is a big teddy bear who aches for his brother's love. Goldberg (31:41):What the Hell do you think you're doing, Blondie? Speaker 21 (31:43):I'm here to bring the Miller boys back together. It's time to fix things with Coach Rick, Coach Nick. Goldberg (31:48):My brother, pass. Barnes (31:53):You know when that music sounds just like Batman, he appears. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Goldberg on The Pop Culture Show. Hey Bill. Goldberg (32:02):God, that never gets old, you know. Barnes (32:03):No, I want to play that just when I get up in the morning and I walk out of my bedroom. Goldberg (32:07):Well, sometimes they need it as inspiration to get in the shower, but you know. Everybody needs their little push in the morning any damn day. Barnes (32:19):Are you working somewhere, are you at home right now, where are you? Goldberg (32:23):I'm working right by my pool. Barnes (32:26):Nice. Goldberg (32:27):If you can imagine one of the maybe five or 10 places that you've thrown in front of me over the past 10 years as far as vacation spots to spend a couple days. Pick one of those out, and that's kind of where I am. Barnes (32:44):What he's talking about, Leslie and Cubby is a few times we'll put the siren out if I get a call from a big hotel chain that's saying, "We need you to film here. We've got a villa." So I'll call Goldberg sometimes and go, "Dude, we've got this 18-bedroom villa in Anguilla," and he'll be like, "Goddammit, let me figure this out." And he's trying to shuffle around, "I've got this and I've got that." That's what he's talking about. So now he's got his own paradise. Goldberg (33:11):Yeah, it sucks. I haven't been able to go man. [inaudible 00:33:13] take you up on our wonderful offer. Leslie (33:15):So Bill, do you mind being called Bill or do you want to just be called Goldberg? Goldberg (33:19):Come on Leslie, you can call me anything you want. Leslie (33:22):So Goldberg ... No. You're career has just been amazing, obviously from being a super athlete to acting. What's been the most rewarding for you? Goldberg (33:32):Well first and foremost, Leslie, for you to characterize it as amazing is a reach to say the least, but I think the longevity I guess needs ... The amazing part is that I've been able to reinvent myself I think. I haven't been great at anything by any stretch of the imagination. But once I feel the need or the quality wanes I turn the corner and try to do something else. Back in the day when we were all doing our thing back in Atlanta those were the greatest times. They really were, whether it was winning in front of 45,000 people at The Dome or standing on the sidelines trying to get in for the Falcons for three or four years, playing in the celebrity softball games. I've done a lot of cool things in my life, but those are the ones with your good friends that you cherish. Those are the ones that make memories. Cubby (34:29):I have to ask, Wikipedia isn't always right. Are you 6'2" and 266. That's what it says right now. Are you current six foot two, 266? Is that accurate or off base? Goldberg (34:41):Well I've been hit in the head with a number of chairs but not that many. I would've shrunk a number of inches but I'm 6'4" and about 270. Barnes (34:51):Cubby and Leslie, funny story about Goldberg. One time I was visiting him at his house when he lived outside of San Diego, and we went to lunch, and we went to this little place, I don't even remember what it's called. It was a small Mom and Pop regular old place, and we went in, and I ordered a grilled chicken and a whatever. Goldberg ordered, like, seven entrees. You mentioned the 6'4" or two, whatever. He orders all these entrees and the people knew him there, like the people that worked there. So they come with the massive, like the whole team has to bring out his entrees, and they line them up in front of him, and he just one at a time methodically just eats these full dishes. And I'm sitting there with my one little chicken breast. I'm like, "Okay, great." Barnes (35:37):Bill, the weird thing is everyone in the room must stares at you the whole time. Is that weird, just everywhere ... Because you're like a superhero? Goldberg (35:44):What's weird is the amount that I consume. What people have to understand is that once you get to a point where you eat that much food at some point throughout your life food has become different to you. For me it's fuel. I don't really taste much anymore. Eating is not enjoyment for me. It's a necessity. I remember the days with the Falcons that I'd wake up in the middle of the night and eat double cheeseburgers just to be able to gain weight or sustain weight throughout practice. It's a blessing and it's a curse. It's cool to be able to eat just about anything you want and not turn into the Pillsbury Doughboy for sure. But it's financially straining, and it's Hell on your gastrointestinal system. Barnes (36:33):But the other part, [crosstalk 00:36:35] the other part Bill. You lived out in the middle of nowhere in San Diego, and I know now in Texas you're out in the middle of somewhere with a compound. And everywhere you go, though, the times that I've been with you, multiple, multiple times, people just stare at you. And it's because you're this bigger than life character that really is that big. So when people see you they're thinking there's Goldberg about to get in the ring, and you have the glasses, your cool sunglasses on, you're in some loud muscle car, and you pop up and get out and go in and eat. And you can't just have your meal. Everyone's starting at you. Does that ever get just weird? Goldberg (37:12):Yeah, it's all an experience. You take the good with the bad, and I still consider that good. I'm greatly appreciative that anybody and everybody would notice me for something favorable as opposed to me being in jail or something. It's a lifelong journey that has it's ups and downs, and your privacy at the end of the day is one of those things that can be compromised at times, but that's why I'm sitting in the middle of 130 acres in the middle of nowhere, and you can't even find me on Google Maps. I'm either working or I'm not working, and I'm an extremist, and I'm from one end of the spectrum to the next. Goldberg (37:50):Every time I step out of my house into the public I have to have that mentality that you obviously treat everybody how you want to be treated. There are some freaks out there for sure, you've seen them. But it's an honorable deal. It really is. It means I guess throughout the years I've done something right. Leslie (38:12):I didn't like what you said earlier about you never did anything great. That is not true. First and foremost you had an undeniable streak. You had so many wins. What was it that kept you so focused and in the game? Goldberg (38:26):You guys know me. There were a lot of reasons that I was successful. First and foremost I was in the right place at the right time with the right ... The business was taking a turn. Hogan and those guys left the WWF, the WWE, whatever it was at the time. The WCW Turner gig was head-to-head with the pre-eminent wrestling company in the world, and I was in the right place at the right time. Hogan needed a baby face, somebody from I guess nowhere. It took a long time for me to decide to be in the wrestling business because, and you guys can understand this, you weren't in this situation but when I played in Georgia and when I played with the Falcons I would always go out in Atlanta, and those were the times. And I'd always see a number of wrestlers, and I never wanted to be associated with the certain ones that I saw all the time. It took me a long time to make that decision. Goldberg (39:30):What kept me going all the time was me having to look in the mirror and be proud of what I was doing. I'm always of the opinion that if you're going to do something you've got to do it right, period, end of story. You've got to give 1,000%. Unfortunately, in this day and time mediocrity is kind of the norm. It's accepted. But in my book I don't want to be like anybody else, I don't want to be as good as anybody else, I want to be better in every respect. What kept me going was the one thing that my dad always told me, "You're only as good as your next match." Cubby (40:10):What is your current WWE status right now at this very moment? Goldberg (40:15):I am contracted with the WWE for the next two years through 2022, '23. I've got two matches per year. I've exhausted my limit this year quite early on April the fifth with WrestleMania under these really weird circumstances. But I've got a couple other extremely interesting projects right on the cusp, but as you guys know in the entertainment business right now everything's on hold unless it's a production of 10 or under pretty much. We got a lot of cool things that people are going to find out about pretty soon. My WWE commitment is still going strong. At 53, I never would've imagined especially after making fun of Flair when he was doing it in his early 40s. Goldberg (41:08):I haven't read everything that Tyson said about his comeback, but the one thing that struck me, which was the reality. Age is just a number, and I think that we're part ... Tyson and I and I don't want to group myself with him because I'm not the athlete that he is by any stretch of the imagination, but we're of a certain generation that continues to have a lot of pride in what they do. It doesn't surprise me one bit that he's in the shape that he's in because I have the same mentality that he does. I still have to walk around and be Goldberg. And I also have a 14-year-old son that I try to train with every day who's playing his first year of football this year. It's all about setting an example in a positive way every single day and trying to be your best. Barnes (41:59):Bill, some of the guys from the WWE podcast they listened, and they sent in a question. Let's listen. This is Matt. Matt (42:06):Hi. This is Matt. I'm the creator and host of the WWE podcast, and this question is for Goldberg. If you were to pinpoint a single piece of advice that you've gotten over the years that has been the most important to your success as a pro wrestler what would that be if you were able to just pinpoint a single piece of advice, and thanks again. Goldberg (42:28):Oh man, there's a number of them that were integral, I think, in my success. But the most simplistic one is once you think you're going slow go even slower because I get really ancy when I get in the ring. And a lot of people do, and they're nervous. The one thing that always helped me being Goldberg and being different and being able to control every aspect of my performance, whether it's breathing or a turn, is taking your time. There were a number of times when I didn't do it, and I was mediocre at best. Barnes (43:08):That's good advice. It's hard to do. Goldberg (43:08):I think it is. You can apply it in everything. Barnes (43:10):Goldberg, your place in San Diego, I've not seen your Texas place yet, but you had how many garages were out there, eight? Goldberg (43:17):Man, there were ... Let's, they're 14. Barnes (43:20):14 garages. He had a gym that's bigger than any LA Fitness that I've seen with every piece of gear you can imagine. He had built his son, not a go cart track, but an off road track. It looked like a place where you would pay admission to get into to go ride a four-wheeler jumping over things. It was insane. Do you have that, have you upped yourself at your new compound in Texas? What's there? Goldberg (43:49):I don't know how to answer that question and not sound like a dick, but ... Seriously, seriously- Barnes (43:58):It's toys. Goldberg (43:59):... hey man, I worked my ass off. You guys know it. I've worked really hard. Barnes (44:04):No one doubts that. No one doubts that. Goldberg (44:06):And I live on 130 acres, and I'm about to build a 15,000 square foot garage that I'm going to put 37 cars in. Barnes (44:15):What else is there? So you're building this massive garage, and is there another track for your son? Goldberg (44:21):I put it this way ... Leslie, my wife got a zebra last week. Barnes (44:24):She got a zebra? Leslie (44:26):Like an animal zebra? Barnes (44:28):Are you going to go Tiger King on us? Goldberg (44:30):Dude, I live on 130 acres with about 20 longhorn steer, llamas, sheep, goats, deer, about four kind of deer, miniature ponies. Leslie (44:44):It's a safari out there. Cubby (44:45):Charge admission, yeah. Goldberg (44:47):My wife's into horses. Put it this way, she can have whatever kind of animal ... Inside there's a miniature deer in my kitchen right now. Barnes (44:56):What will it cost to get a picture of Goldberg on a mini-pony. Goldberg (45:01):Oh, no, that won't happen. He'll kill me. It's only like 28 inches high, but it's a knee biter. He'll blow your kneecaps out. Leslie (45:12):How does one buy a zebra? Goldberg (45:13):But here's the deal. Wanda, she was given the zebra. Three houses down they have giraffes. We live in the middle of nowhere, guys. We're on 130 acres, and I got a big pond in the back where I just hang out and fish and relax. It's our end game. My wife was an ex-stunt woman, and she put her body through hell throughout the years. We've got a 14-year-old boy that we moved out to this area of the country so he can pursue his academic and his sports love, and hopefully we can relax and retire here. But things are still going strong. One of the projects I got, unfortunately, has me living in LA for a couple days a week. Right when I find my end game I got to turn around and go right back to where I came from. Goldberg (46:08):I'm very lucky. We've all been very successful throughout the years. I thank everyone that's around me. It's just persistence. It's hard work. Like I said, I haven't been really good at anything, so I got to keep reinventing myself and trying again. Cubby (46:26):How far is the airport from your house because we're all coming over? Goldberg (46:30):There's three ways. There's a guy with a strip three miles down the road. The local airport is 12 miles down the road. And I will tell you that San Antonio is an hour away from me. If you guys flew a little private you could get in really close, or if you parachuted in- Barnes (46:53):We're coming. Get the Gulfstream. Goldberg (46:53):... I got a great landing pad over here. Leslie (46:55):Hey, we haven't talked about Goldberg the actor. You've been in a lot of movies, TV shows from The Goldbergs to NCIS LA. Any acting gigs coming up? Goldberg (47:05):Yup. That's one of the ones that that's why the LA commitment. It's a spin-off from NCIS, and myself and an unnamed superstar are starring in it. It's kind of like a modern day A-Team kind of gimmick. It's going to be really awesome. It's something I've wanted to be for a very long time. It's a fun project. It's going to have to be fun to get me to leave where I am right now. Barnes (47:33):That's going to be awesome. [crosstalk 00:47:35] You can't give us a hint who the other guy is? Goldberg (47:37):Absolutely not, I wouldn't, not yet. Barnes (47:40):That sounds fun. Congratulations, Goldberg. Leslie (47:42):That's amazing. Barnes (47:43):You're just killing it, man. And for you to do a role like you do on The Goldbergs when you're putting yourself out there with funky little tight shorts and knee socks. It shows a lot of- Goldberg (47:54):I caught more hell from that, man. I'll tell you what, Bryan Callen and everybody on that cast is indicative of their characters to the nth degree. It's just a blast every time I'm there. Hey man, I'm as goofy as the next guy. I have no problem emasculating myself. My wife does it to me every day, so I'm kind of used to it. Barnes (48:21):Well thank you for coming on. It was so great to catch up with, Bill. Goldberg (48:22):Oh man, it's a true pleasure to talk to you guys again. And hopefully we can do it again soon. Everybody be safe out there. I miss you guys, and it was an honor and a privilege to be on, and have a wonderful Sunday. Barnes (48:36):Well just get that teed up for your next WWE match, Goldberg versus coronavirus, and just take of it, done, finished. Goldberg (48:44):Yeah, that would be nice. My father was an obstetrician/gynecologist so I kind of have being a doctor in my blood, but I don't think I could take that one on. Barnes (48:54):You've met your match. All right, Goldberg. Goldberg (48:57):Yes, that's for sure. You guys be well. Leslie (48:58):Thank you. Barnes (48:59):See you, bye, bye. Cubby (49:00):Thank you. Leslie (49:01):Major revelation there at the end. Another NCIS spin-off. How many is this? Barnes (49:05):Oh, I know. That is cool. But good for him. He keeps killing it. Leslie (49:08):I wonder who the other sidekick will be. That'll be fun. Barnes (49:11):Such a great guy. Such a cool dude. All right, celebrity confidential, that's our series we've had for one whole week, and that's where we just tell stories from beyond, stories from beyond the backstage door, stories from beyond the set. This week it is Leslie Fram. Cannot wait to hear this story. What is it? I don't even know what it is. Leslie (49:31):If you think about your all time favorite TV shows like I think Game of Thrones might be mine, and then I don't know, Breaking Bad, but Dexter is definitely in the top five. Barnes (49:39):Oh yeah. I never got into that, but everyone loved it. Leslie (49:42):It was incredible if you ever want to go back and binge on it. But Michael C. Hall obviously his claim to fame was Dexter and Six Feet Under. When I was working in New York at a rock station called WRXP we had Michael C. Hall in for an interview. This was at the height of Dexter, season five finale, 2010? Yeah, 2010. We didn't know what to expect, but we made the room that we did the interview in a kill room. Did you ever watch any of Dexter, Cubby? Cubby (50:13):I did not. I'm sorry. Leslie (50:14):The kill room where he would kill people in Dexter was all plastic and garbage, like the whole room. He would cover all the walls. So we covered all the walls to make it a kill room, of course not knowing what to expect. We're kind of nervous not knowing is he going to be pissed about this, are his handlers going to be upset. No, he- Barnes (50:34):So like blood everywhere. You had just plastic up. Leslie (50:36):No, just the whole plastic everywhere just like he would for a kill room in Dexter. So he walks into the radio station by himself kind of wandering the halls and we find him. Super cool guy, and we're like, "Oh god, what is he going to thing? What's he going to think?" He walks in, he kind of looks around at the kill room, and he's like, "Nothing like a little murder to bring friends together." So he was really fun about it, very cool. We do the interview, he does a takeover, plays an hour of his favorite music. Played Bob Dylan, he played The Who, bunch of rock stuff. So that was it, great guy. Leslie (51:11):Fast forward 2013 I am going to LA to see The Who with a friend of mine. This was like the big Quadrophenia tour with everybody in the band, and I think it was at the Staples Center, and- Barnes (51:23):Who? Leslie (51:25):Who. Cubby (51:26):Who. Leslie (51:27):My friend and I ... she gets the tickets, great seats, we're going to see The Who, I'd never seen The Who before, so psyched. We're sitting there and the show starts. 10 minutes into the show we see a couple of guys kind of crowding in our space because everybody's standing. You're standing up because it's The Who. I'm like, "Guys are in our space. They keep crowding us. They keep crowding ... They're getting closer and closer. I'm getting agitated." I'm like, "Wait a second, we bought these tickets. These are our seats. These guys are like ..." I'm getting read to turn around and say something. Barnes, I know you would've said something if somebody's crowding into your space at a concert. Barnes (52:04):Well yeah just because that's your space. Leslie (52:06):That's your space. Barnes (52:06):You paid for it, yeah. Leslie (52:07):So I turn around. I'm about to say something, and I turn around, and it's Dexter. It's Michael C. Hall and this buddy of his. And I'm like, "Yeah, I was about to throw shade at Dexter." And he does, "Hey, we're really sorry. We're just really big fans. Do you guys mind?" And we're like, "Oh no, of course not. You can hang with us." So we end up watching the show with Dexter, with Michael C. Hall and his buddy for the whole show. Of course, I was going to let him in my space. He's Dexter. Barnes (52:34):Did he remember everything previously from three years ago? Leslie (52:37):He kind of looked and kind of acknowledged like, "Oh hey." And I was like, "Yeah hey." So obviously at that point I was very cool, and I was like, "Of course I'm going to let Michael C. Hall watch The Who with us whether we were crowded or not." Barnes (52:50):Qweef it. All right, that was a good story. Which Hall? Leslie (52:58):Michael C. Hall. Barnes (52:59):Yeah, Michael C. Hall. Cubby (52:59):Anthony Michael. Leslie (52:59):You were thinking of ... Barnes (53:03):Six Underground, Six Feet Underground, that was my Michael C. Hall. That was the show that I liked him from. I just couldn't get into Dexter. And Cubby, you're the same way. Cubby (53:10):I couldn't either, yeah. Leslie (53:12):It was really good. Cubby (53:12):I hope you still love me, Leslie. Leslie (53:13):That's okay. Barnes (53:14):I've tried it multiple times. Just never worked. Leslie (53:17):It was like eight seasons. That show was huge. Cubby (53:20):You want to talk about huge, guys, I have the ratings. Barnes (53:24):Oh, here we go. Cubby (53:26):You ready for this guys? Barnes (53:27):No. Cubby (53:28):No, you're going to love this. Barnes (53:29):This is the ratings for our show. Cubby (53:29):For our show. How many people are tuned in, and the rankings. Big news, guys, we're number five in Guatemala, but we're down one. We are down one. We were number four, we're down to number five. Barnes (53:41):Killing it. Cubby (53:42):But you know what, it's Guatemala. Barnes (53:44):Where is that? Cubby (53:45):Now, this is unbelievable. We probably should have a ratings party. We're number one in Bolivia- Leslie (53:51):Wow. Cubby (53:51):... for three weeks in a row, number one- Barnes (53:53):Yeah. Cubby (53:54):... in Bolivia. Leslie (53:54):Thank you, Bolivia. Cubby (53:55):Yup, yup, yup. This, though, is kind of sad. We have really dropped like a rock in Canada. We're currently number 2,306 in Canada. Barnes (54:08):They just don't get American humor at all. Cubby (54:11):Yeah, maybe so. By the way, finally, we were a former number one in Turkey. We are now completely out of the top 50, so bye, bye Turkey. Barnes (54:21):What are we doing wrong? Leslie (54:22):I don't know why these numbers are dropping in Canada and in Turkey. Cubby (54:25):Help. Speaker 1 (54:29):This is Cubby's Pop Culture throwback, a rewind into the vault of music, movies, and moments. Cubby (54:36):All right guys, we're going back to the year 2000. Where were you in the year 2000, Leslie? Leslie (54:40):We were just talking about that. I was at 99X playing Pet Yorn records. Cubby (54:44):Back in the year 2000 there was a lot going on on the charts, there was a lot going on in the theaters. Do you know what the number one song this week on the pop charts was? Obviously you don't off the top of your head, but let me give you a hint, it's a boy band, pop charts, boy band. Leslie (55:00):NSYNC. Cubby (55:00):Boom, Leslie Fram for the win. Speaker 23 (55:04):(Singing) Cubby (55:12):Number one song in the country 20 years ago this week, It's Gonna Be Me by NSYNC. And I thought you were going to say like the Backstreet Boys because when we say boy band there was a million of them out in the year 2000. You had O-Town, you had NSYNC, Backstreet Boys- Leslie (55:24):All huge. Cubby (55:26):... Westlife. I can go on and on. There was a lot of them out in 2000. The number one song on the Country charts 20 years ago this week. It went over to crossover everywhere. It's our girl, Lee Ann Womack. Lee Ann Womack (55:37):(singing) Cubby (55:42):Such a great song. Leslie (55:43):Really inspirational. Lee Ann Womack (55:47):(singing) Barnes (55:47):Sing, I hope you die? Leslie (55:48):Dance. Cubby (55:49):No, I hope you dance, [crosstalk 00:55:50] dummy. Lee Ann Womack (55:54):(singing) Cubby (55:54):That's a great song. Leslie (55:54):It is. Cubby (55:55):I'm sorry, I play that all the time- Leslie (55:56):Timeless. Cubby (55:56):... on the radio station I'm on here in New York. The number one song on the modern rock chart this week in the year 2000. Barnes (56:03):2000 ... Cubby (56:04):Not Jesus Jones. It's not Jesus Jones. Barnes (56:06):Blink-182. Leslie (56:07):Wait, wait, wait, give us a hint. Cubby (56:09):Okay. This was their first song, and they went on a pretty good run after this. They're from Mississippi I believe. Barnes (56:17):Oh, 3 Doors Down. Cubby (56:18):Boom. Leslie (56:19):Boom, Barnes. Cubby (56:19):3 Doors Down. Speaker 26 (56:23):(singing) Cubby (56:30):I feel like this is the only song they had that really kind of rocked. Barnes (56:32):No. Cubby (56:34):No, but all the singles were kind of like [crosstalk 00:56:36]. Barnes (56:36):Be without you, baby. Cubby (56:38):They were kind of slow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Barnes (56:40):We did a cool thing, Cubby, with them one time. We did a show from our listener's living room. Cubby (56:43):Oh really. Barnes (56:44):Yeah, we showed up with 3 Doors Down. What was that thing called, Leslie? Leslie (56:47):Home Invasion. Barnes (56:49):Home Invasion. Leslie (56:49):Remember Tommy Lee. Barnes (56:50):We could never do that. Yeah, we did Tommy Lee. Set up a drum set, Cubby, in someone's front yard, and they didn't know it was coming. Cubby (56:57):Oh, that's too cool. Barnes (56:57):And then we did the whole show at their house. So we literally at 4:00 AM we started setting up the drum set in front of this house in Atlanta. And Tommy Lee shows up in a van, the door opens, he walks up, sits down, starts twirling his sticks, and did a full on drum solo in the neighborhood. People started coming out of the doors. I wish we had video of that. But yeah, 3 Doors Down in someone's living room. Cubby (57:16):I have a quick 3 Doors Down story too. I was eating at Virgil's Barbecue in Times Square in New York. Barnes (57:21):Love. Leslie (57:21):Virgil's. Cubby (57:21):Remember Virgil's? Leslie (57:22):Yup, I've been there. Barnes (57:22):Yeah. Cubby (57:23):And I ran into some friends from Universal Records, and they were having dinner with a new band. And they're like, "Hey Cubby, we just signed them, 3 Doors Down." Had no idea who they were, and then of course they end up being huge. Leslie (57:34):Huge. Barnes (57:35):Nice guys. Cubby (57:35):That's cool when you meet ... And they'd never been in New York before, and they were all excited. Number one song on the R&B charts this week was a group called Jagged Edge, and a song called Let's Get Married. Speaker 27 (57:46):(singing) Cubby (57:49):This is a jam. I don't know if you remember this song though. Leslie (57:51):Oh yes. Speaker 27 (57:51):(singing) Cubby (57:55):The number one movie at the box office 20 years ago this week was Nutty Professor II: The Klumps. Audio (58:03):Well, Momma, funny you should say that? Denise and I have been doing some research on aging which has proven to be extremely promising. Audio (58:07):[i

And now, here’s the rest of our conversation with Kristian Bush! We’re talking about everything pop culture-related from Tom Hanks taking selfies on Kristian’s phone to Kristian’s celebrity crush Laura Linney living down the street from him when she was filming Ozark in Atlanta. Kristian also shares his favorite British shows to binge during the quarantine, teaches Ashley about the joys of Absolutely Fabulous, and tells us about some next-level murder mystery games. Hunter gives his revelations from recently rewatching Forrest Gump and Fried Green Tomatoes back-to-back. Kristian explains how he questioned his creativity as a songwriter and what he did to move forward. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Sugarland’s Kristian Bush checks in with us from his home in Atlanta, just down the street from the CDC. With one of his kids finishing his senior year of high school, Kristian shares with us how his family to navigating the Covid-19 pandemic and how he’s handling his business while trying to stay creative during this time. We go in-depth about multiple projects, including a brand-new musical, his band Dark Water, what we learned from his TED Talk last year (a MUST listen for all creatives) AND we get some scoop on what to expect from the upcoming Sugarland album. Plus, we’re celebrating the 10-year anniversary of Sugarland’s “The Incredible Machine” album (a record we both love) with a few stories behind the songs we had never heard before. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Wow! Thanks for the introduction Mr. Kristian Bush of Sugarland and Dark Water fame. Show him some love by following him on Instagram and Twitter @kristianbush. In the second installment of the Cadillac Jack – My Second Act podcast Caddy reveals his New Year’s Eve crew, Donna talks about her bad driving habit (we do not recommend it), and the social media phenomena that Caddy can’t get enough of. Of course, we include a mailbag question from a listener and much more! Cadillac Jack. New show, same ride. Enjoy! Sponsored by Real Estate Expert Advisors Follow and connect with Caddy on Twitter @ATLCadillac Leave a message for the pod by calling 770-464-6024. We might play it on a future episode! Please rate and review the show! It helps other people find us.

Ben Satterlee is a proffesional drummer from Tulsa, OK. He has toured the country with country artists such as A Thousand Horses, Locash, Kristian Bush and others. Today Ben is a drum coach for proffesional drummers, as well as a session drummer in Nashville, TN. We get into everything in this episode, including (but not limited to) The Band P.O.D. The Evolution of Drums Drum Coaching Why Ben doesn't tour anymore What it's like to play for a 100,000 person audience What it's like to filet Salmon at a grocery store How to Nail the audition @iambensatterlee

Ben Satterlee is a proffesional drummer from Tulsa, OK. He has toured the country with country artists such as A Thousand Horses, Locash, Kristian Bush and others. Today Ben is a drum coach for proffesional drummers, as well as a session drummer in Nashville, TN. We get into everything in this episode, including (but not limited to) The Band P.O.D. The Evolution of Drums Drum Coaching Why Ben doesn't tour anymore What it's like to play for a 100,000 person audience What it's like to filet Salmon at a grocery store How to Nail the audition @iambensatterlee --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/ryan-poole3/support

Kent Aberle is a prime example of hard work and hustle paying massive dividends in the music world.  Growing up in rural Illinois, Kent started drumming at a very young age and was forming bands by his teens.  He completely immersed himself in the local music scene and became THE in-demand drummer.  He soon decided to relocate to Atlanta to explore bigger opportunities in a larger city.  He quickly became a highly successful instructor and opened his own drum shop while gigging full time.  As luck would have it, a visitor to his shop asked him if he wanted to audition for a country gig.  As always, Kent was all in.  That gig turned out to be Kristian Bush of Sugarland fame.  Kent has toured the world with Kristian as well as massive tours with The On Fires and many others.  Kent is the epitome of hard work and dedication to drumming.  He is also a wonderful human.  Don't miss this highly educational and insightful interview.

Glenn has some announcements at the beginning of the show, then we share with you some of the fun interviews from Radiothons past. Enjoy Charlie Daniels, Bob Baffert, Kristian Bush and Martin Clunes. Listen in…Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/user?u=87421)

Join Michael Litten as he interview The Ormewoods. Bio Atlanta, GA based Americana duo The Ormewoods are Don McCollister and Claire Pearson. Don and Claire bring dynamic individual musical histories to their remarkable partnership. Don’s 25 year career includes work with Sister Hazel, Shawn Mullins and Third Day. He also produced tracks for Jennifer Nettles and Kristian Bush before they formed the superstar duo Sugarland. Artists that Don McCollister has worked with have collectively sold over 15 million albums, been nominated for 85 major music awards, of which they have won 47, had 34 #1 billboard hits and charted singles. Often dubbed "the artist's" producer because he himself is a multi-instrumentalist who continues to perform live. Claire Pearson (previously performed as Pearson Perry but dropped the Perry moniker after divorce) is an Atlanta based singer-songwriter whose song "Love is a Mountain" (co-written with Heidi Higgins) charted #37 on on the top 100 list of most played singles on independent radio in 2014. She was also one of the top 5 most played pop artists on independent radio in 2014 according to Roots Music Report. She founded Atlanta Intown Songwriters in 2011 to build the Atlanta artist network for aspiring songwriters. In 2016, they quickly built a base of fans as they toured the Southeast and Mid-West promoting their debut album "The Bedroom Sessions". The album continues to receive strong Americana radio support across the country thanks to their #1 single "HeyBabe" (RootsMusicReport) which has been on the folk charts for over 30 consecutive weeks. With Claire (the duo’s chief songwriter) drawing lyrics directly from entries in her diary detailing the first 90 days of the duo’s re-connection after many years and unexpected resulting relationship, the duo decided the best way to capture the intimate nature of the songs was to turn her bedroom into a recording studio. Don set up his gear, and the album was recorded in a series of literal bedro

Revisiting the OG My Favorite Album Christmas special from 2015... Happy Holidays to all of you out there in the world For the first ever My Favorite Album Christmas special, I delve into the origins of the Christmas pop songs we all know today with musicologist and Sydney Morning Herald journalist Tim Byron - how did we go from religious music to songs about cold weather? Why were all the best Christmas songs written by Jewish guys? And why is an album of Christmas standards by Michael Buble outselling ever album but Adele? I also check in with friend of the show Kristian Bush (Sugarland) to talk about his new original Christmas song ‘Thinking About Drinking For Christmas’ - what Christmas music did he dig growing up? How do you write a great Christmas song? And what are the essential elements of Christmas music? Plus Canadian Corb Lund on why he’ll never make a Christmas album and Lee Brice on why he will. My Favorite Album is a podcast on the impact great music has on our lives. Each episode features a guest on their favorite album of all time - why they love it, their history with the album and how it's influenced them. Jeremy Dylan is a filmmaker, journalist, concert promoter and photographer. He directed the the feature music documentaries Jim Lauderdale: The King of Broken Hearts and Tommy Emmanuel: The Endless Road (coming soon). If you've got any feedback or suggestions, drop us a line at myfavoritealbumpodcast@gmail.com.

Today on The Neil Haley Show, The Total Tutor Neil Haley will interview Sugerland. ABOUT SUGARLAND: GRAMMY® Award-winning pair Jennifer Nettles and Kristian Bush refresh their musical visions while staying true to an authentic sound and emotive songwriting that has made Sugarland ubiquitous with Country music duos with the release of BIGGER (Big Machine Records and UMG Nashville). The Georgia natives set the tone for their highly-anticipated album, debuting their current collaboration “Babe” featuring Taylor Swift, lead single “Still The Same” and conversation-evoking “Mother” and “Tuesday's Broken.” Jennifer Nettles and Kristian Bush penned all but one track – “Babe” featuring Taylor Swift – and produced the project with Grammy-Award winner Julian Raymond. Since the band's inception in 2002, Sugarland has sold nearly 10 million albums domestically, achieving high-mark sales with PLATINUM-certified THE INCREDIBLE MACHINE, 2X PLATINUM LOVE ON THE INSIDE and 3X PLATINUM TWICE THE SPEED OF LIFE as well as ENJOY THE RIDE. Their most popular songs include PLATINUM-certified “

Sugarland was at Ravinia last night and spoke to Stylz and Roman on just about every topic imaginable! But what Jennifer Nettles and Kristian Bush were most excited about was that Ravinia is in the same neighborhood as the 'Home Alone" house! Could a potential sale be in the works? LOL! They also discussed how many of the ideas for the "Babe" video were Taylor Swift's. Both members of Sugarland are also parents, so they also discussed what it's like for their kids to have famous parents! But that's not it! Sugarland also did Stylz and Roman's :15 Second Frenzy playing off their name as well!

Kristian Bush talks about the evolution of Sugarland, music theory and his many new projects as a producer, songwriter and musician. Kristian also talks about his brother who was hired to play keys for Train after Drops of Jupiter became a big hit. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers

Lindsay Ell talks about what went into her recreating the entire “Continuum” album by John Mayer. The idea was given to her by Kristian Bush from Sugarland who produced her No. 1 Country Album “The Project”. She also talks about having the first female in 10 years to have No. 1 in Canada. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers

Kristian Bush of Grammy-award-winning country group Sugarland talks about the reunion with Jennifer Nettles, working with Taylor Swift, and performing at the Daytona Country 500. Excerpts from "Still the Same" used by permission. Photo by Shervin Lainez.

On Podcast 46 we talk to Kristian Bush ahead of his Belfast gig this weekend, we also hear from the Brothers Osborne on how they went about recording their new album ‘Port Saint Joe’ and Keith Urban tells us about the name behind his new album ‘Graffiti U’ out this Friday 27th April. We feature […]

Last week we have the wonderful privilege of catching up with Kristian Bush ahead of this Sunday’s gig in the Ulster Hall, Belfast. Born in Knoxville, Tennessee, Bush was rooted in music from a very early age as we discuss during the interview. Bush was raised outside of Knoxville in Sevierville, Tennessee, a small town at the […]

We chat with Kristian Bush and Jennifer Nettles on their return to the UK

Best of featuring new finds and old favourites by listener request / An exclusive performance from Lindsey Misiner and something just as exclusive from Paul C Morrisey in our Best of Extra. / Interviews from Kristian Bush from Sugarland, Gavin Matts and Alexandra Hawse.

Kristian Bush talks about the evolution of Sugarland, music theory and his many new projects as a producer, songwriter and musician. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers

Sometimes you come back stronger after a breakup. Case in point is the group Sugarland. They told Stylz and Roman that they have a new found appreciation for each other now that they're back together making music and touring. So who initiated the first phone call and what does the "Bat Signal' have to do with it? Take a listen to what Kristian Bush and Jennifer Nettles told Stylz and Roman!

We're so incredibly excited that these two are back together and creating new music. Kristian Bush joined us at Kicks 101.5 while Jennifer Nettles phoned in from NYC! This pic is the actual view Caddy gave Kristian during our chat.

Jim Casey talks with Jennifer Nettles and Kristian Bush of Sugarland about: • working on individual projects during their five-year hiatus from Sugarland •their surprise reunion at the CMA Awards in November • the changing sonic nature of country music over the last five years • writing and recording their new single, "Still the Same" • working on their upcoming album • letting the songs drive the album • performing together on Dec. 31 on "Dick Clark's New Years Rocking Eve With Ryan Seacrest" • playing Europe's C2C Festival in March • putting together a tour in 2018 Quote Worthy: • “Normally, it takes 100 songs to write three good ones, but it’s different if you’re working with Jennifer. It takes one song to write one good one. That’s cool. You can’t ever underestimate the power of that.” — Kristian Bush Participants: • Jennifer Nettles • Kristian Bush • Jim Casey, NCD editor in chief

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Ty Bentli talks with singer/songwriter Kristian Bush of Sugarland in his second episode of Writers Rule, a podcast about the art of songwriting with some of Nashville's best songwriters.

After host Jim Casey mockingly “cancels” his interview with Lindsay Ell because of her boyfriend, Lindsay talks about the real hubbub that went down in Sacramento in June, her new album, The Project, working with producer Kristian Bush, touring with Brad Paisley and more. Show Participants • Lindsay Ell • Jim Casey, NCD director of editorial Show Notes & Links: http://www.nashcountrydaily.com/2017/08/08/yeah-we-cancelled-our-interview-with-lindsay-ell-because-of-her-boyfriend-but-that-didnt-stop-her-from-talking-about-new-album-touring-more

Grammy-winning singer/songwriter Kristian Bush talks about his career diversity, from writing and recording the theme song to "Say Yes to the Dress," to writing music for a video game monster called "Shugabush" designed in his image, to his record-breaking country music duo, Sugarland.

Kristian Bush took some time to come talk with Ric Rush before playing the WEZL's Party in the Park. He played "Baby Girl" for us in the Cooper River Room.

Kristian Bush joins us for Weekly Podcast #143

Bill Cody with Kristian Bush & Radney Foster recorded January 16th, 2017 at WSM Radio in Nashville, Tennessee. Kristian & Radney stopped by to chat about the opening of their new musical "Troubadour." Coffee, Country & Cody podcasts powered by NashvilleGuitarStore.com!

This episode was originally released December 2015. For the first ever My Favorite Album Christmas special, I delve into the origins of the Christmas pop songs we all know today with musicologist and Sydney Morning Herald journalist Tim Byron - how did we go from religious music to songs about cold weather? Why were all the best Christmas songs written by Jewish guys? And why is an album of Christmas standards by Michael Buble outselling ever album but Adele? I also check in with friend of the show Kristian Bush (Sugarland) to talk about his new original Christmas song ‘Thinking About Drinking For Christmas' - what Christmas music did he dig growing up? How do you write a great Christmas song? And what are the essential elements of Christmas music? Plus Canadian Corb Lund on why he'll never make a Christmas album and Lee Brice on why he will. Come back for our next episode - an emotional deep dive on the greatest Christmas album of all time. Listen in the player above or download the episode by clicking here. Subscribe to the podcast in iTunes here or in other podcasting apps by copying/pasting our RSS feed - http://myfavoritealbum.libsyn.com/rss My Favorite Album is a podcast unpacking the great works of pop music. Each episode features a different songwriter or musician discussing their favorite album of all time - their history with it, the making of the album, individual songs and the album's influence on their own music. Jeremy Dylan is a filmmaker, journalist and photographer from Sydney, Australia who has worked in the music industry since 2007. He directed the the feature music documentary Jim Lauderdale: The King of Broken Hearts (out now!) and the feature film Benjamin Sniddlegrass and the Cauldron of Penguins, in addition to many commercials and music videos. If you've got any feedback or suggestions, drop us a line at myfavoritealbumpodcast@gmail.com.

Horses in the Morning Hour 1 opens the Radiothon with Kristian Bush of Sugarland sharing his favorite holiday memories and a BIG Sugarland announcement. Plus, The Equestrian Legend George Morris sharing his "Fantasy Rides" and candidly discussing his life, loads of holiday voicemails and live calls from listeners and we give away a Northrun Saddlery Bridle and a Holiday Gift Pack from Favorite Cowgirl Coffee. Listen in...Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/user?u=87421)

Kent Aberle has been touring and recording with Kristian Bush for two years. He attended Eastern Illinois University as a Special... The post 088 – Kent Aberle: Touring with Kristian Bush, Building Your Reputation in Cover Bands, Owning a Drum Shop appeared first on Working Drummer Podcast.

For the first ever My Favorite Album Christmas special, I delve into the origins of the Christmas pop songs we all know today with musicologist and Sydney Morning Herald music journo Tim Byron - how did we go from religious music to songs about cold weather? Why were all the best Christmas songs written by Jewish guys? And why is an album of Christmas standards by a Canadian outselling ever album but Adele? I also check in with friend of the show Kristian Bush (Sugarland) to talk about his new original Christmas song - what Christmas music did he dig growing up? How do you write a great Christmas song? And what are the essential elements of Christmas music? Plus Canadian Corb Lund on why he'll never make a Christmas album and Lee Brice on why he will. Come back for our next episode - an emotional deep dive on the greatest Christmas album of all time. My Favorite Album is a podcast unpacking the great works of pop music. Each episode features a different songwriter or musician discussing their favorite album of all time - their history with it, the making of the album, individual songs and the album's influence on their own music.Jeremy Dylan is a filmmaker, journalist and photographer from Sydney, Australia who has worked in the music industry since 2007. He directed the the feature music documentary Jim Lauderdale: The King of Broken Hearts (out now!) and the feature film Benjamin Sniddlegrass and the Cauldron of Penguins, in addition to many commercials and music videos. If you've got any feedback or suggestions, drop us a line at myfavoritealbumpodcast@gmail.com

singer Kristian Bush...new music and documentary

This week we are inviting you to celebrate our 200th REAL Country show! We have scoured the archives for the wittiest moments and have top tunes from Jetty Road, Christie Lamb, O’Shea, Aleyce Simmonds, Kristian Bush, Travis Collins, Adam Brand, Adam Eckersley Band and Keith Urban... All on our special 200th REAL Country show this week! Subscribe or listen to EP200 FREE here: iTunes: http://bit.ly/1fHY1dH TuneIn: http://tun.in/tfQEys Web: http://www.RealCountryMix.com/ Listening on iTunes? We'd love a 5 star review!

Big show this week from Germany as I chill in Beethovens house, check out a concord, tunes from Paul costa, Jetty Road, Mustered Courage, Kristian Bush, Expat Bec Lavelle, and chats with the Dapper Dan Men and Hunter Hayes... All on the Real Country German special. Subscribe or listen FREE here: iTunes: http://bit.ly/1fHY1dH TuneIn: http://tun.in/tfQEys Web: http://www.RealCountryMix.com/ Listening on iTunes? We'd love a 5 star review!

It's a Very Special Nerdville as Erin goes junketeering! Erin and Nerdville favorite Liz Schullo sit down with Sugarland's Kristian Bush as he tours in support of his new solo album Southern Gravity. They talk Walking Dead, Sherlock, Star Wars, and most importantly Doctor Who. This is a can't-miss episode for sci-fi and country fans alike!   As always, you can find us... On Facebook!: http://facebook.com/NerdvilleTN On Twitter!: http://twitter.com/NerdvilleTN On Tumblr!: http://NerdvilleTN.Tumblr.com And on our newsletter. Click here to sign up! https://app.e2ma.net/app2/audience/signup/1778459/1747276/?v=a

From Billy Pilgrim to Sugarland to his new solo hits, Kristian Bush has been charting a path through American music with an influence that his fans might not expect - U2's seminal 1987 album “The Joshua Tree”. Kristian reveals key tracks from throughout his career that were inspired by the album, how the record shaped his morning ritual as a teenager, which U2 live DVD he (sort of) appears on and how he's taken U2's recording ethos has influenced his record making from Sugarland on to today. Listen in the player above or download the episode by clicking here. Subscribe to the podcast in iTunes here or in other podcasting apps by copying/pasting our RSS feed - http://myfavoritealbum.libsyn.com/rssMy Favorite Album is a podcast unpacking the great works of pop music. Each episode features a different songwriter or musician discussing their favorite album of all time - their history with it, the making of the album, individual songs and the album's influence on their own music.Jeremy Dylan is a filmmaker from Sydney, Australia who has worked in the music industry since 2007. He directed the the feature music documentary Jim Lauderdale: The King of Broken Hearts (out now!) and the feature film Benjamin Sniddlegrass and the Cauldron of Penguins, in addition to many commercials and music videos. If you've got any feedback or suggestions, drop us a line at myfavoritealbumpodcast@gmail.com

This week Lady Antebellum are doing it Freestyle, while Damien Leith is focused on a Bright Blue Rose, although Gretta Ziller assumes it must be Some Kind Of Habit. Also tunes from Innocent Eve, Lee Kernaghan, The Davidson Brothers, Kristian Bush and chats with Brad Butcher and Maddie and Tae... All on REAL Country this week. Subscribe or listen FREE here: iTunes: http://bit.ly/1fHY1dH TuneIn: http://tun.in/tfQEys Web: http://www.RealCountryMix.com/ Listening on iTunes? We'd love a 5 star review!

Ben Sorensen's chat with the warm, connected, gifted and brilliant Kristian Bush about life, songwriting, the Suzuki method, and his new album Southern Gravity. Get the album on iTunes here: http://bit.ly/SouthernGravityAlbum

While Catherine Britt educates us on the finer points of the Good To Bad transition, Kelsey Fitch is intrigued and would prefer to dabble with A Little Taste, while the McCLymonts proclaim that Forever Begins Tonight! Also tunes from Hunter Hayes, O’Shea, Kasey Chambers, The Wolfe Brothers, and my chat Kristian Bush and Rae Lynn... All on REAL Country this week. Subscribe or listen FREE here: iTunes: http://bit.ly/1fHY1dH TuneIn: http://tun.in/tfQEys Web: http://www.RealCountryMix.com/ Listening on iTunes? We'd love a 5 star review!

This week REAL Country is coming to you from the TASTE of Melbourne foodie festival... I’ll be throwing away the diet and indulging in some of the best food and drink Melbourne has to offer, inter-dispersed with some great country tunes from O'Shea, Ben Ransom Music, Harmony James, Lyn Bowtell, Kristian Bush and even a quick chat with RaeLynn... Plus foodie chats with Pope Joan's, Edable and Those Girls Iced Teas all on REAL Country this week! Subscribe or listen FREE here: iTunes: http://bit.ly/1fHY1dH | TuneIn: http://tun.in/tfQEys | Web: http://www.RealCountryMix.com/ For more on TASTE visit: http://www.TasteOfMelbourne.com.au