Podcasts about Hti

What would it take to create a world where human traffickers are afraid to do business in their country? Victor Boutros, CEO of the Human Trafficking Institute has a unique plan that is doing exactly that - decimating modern slavery! Today, you get to hear his story, how HTI is battling the World's human trafficking problem, and how we can all be a small part in the operation. Learn more about the Human Trafficking Institute here: https://traffickinginstitute.org/Become a Justice Partner here: https://traffickinginstitute.org/justice-partner/Read the Locust Effect: https://amzn.to/4l6Xztf--Interested in joining our Kinetic Man weekly online Zoom call? Get more info here: https://thekineticman.com/Join our Kinetic Man Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thekineticman ⁠⁠⁠Know someone who would make a great guest on our podcast? Let us know! ⁠⁠Email: takeaction@thekineticman.com⁠

In this episode of OPTalks, the HTI community and friends offer prayer and song as expressions of gratitude and strength, to offer company, in praise of peace and love.

In this episode of OPTalks, HTI community members offer prayers to bring us closer to the divine, the holy, toward hope, communal inspiration, and love.

Kristen O'Brien joins Julia Grabo to recap last week's Assistant Secretary for Technology Policy (ASTP)/Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology (ONC) annual meeting and discuss the recently released HTI-2 final rule.

In this episode of OPTalks, Dr. Ish Ruiz and Dr. Colleen Mary Mallon, a Dominican Sister, discuss her latest book, Inclusivity and Institutional Change in Education: A Theologian's Journey (Eerdmans, 2024). The book examines the intersection of theology, education, and social justice, with a specific focus on race and LGBTQ+ inclusion. Sister Mallon shares insights from her book which offers a critical examination of how Catholic institutions can better engage with diversity, equity, and inclusion. She discusses her process of unlearning whiteness and the need for greater awareness of positionality. As a Puerto Rican scholar, Dr. Ruiz reflects on the complexities of addressing race and privilege from his perspective as a person of color. The talk emphasizes the importance of personal transformation, intentional dialogue, and structural accountability in reconciliation and healing within the Catholic tradition. In this regard, Drs. Ruiz and Mallon explore Pope Francis' model of synodality, where the Church discerns the guidance of the Holy Spirit; Sister Mallon's adaptation of Ken Wilber's framework for mapping right relationships; and examples of advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights, such as the work of Sister Janine Gramick. Sister Mallon stresses the Church's need to embrace difficult conversations with love and humility, to disagree in love. This conversation and the book are part of the Theological Education between the Times (TEBT) series, an initiative out of HTI member school Emory University Candler School of Theology that “gathers diverse groups of people for critical, theological conversations about the meanings and purposes of theological education. The project begins with a recognition that theological education is between the times, on the way. And it works in the confidence that we do not walk this road alone.”

Teresa Ehnert, Federal Affairs Liaison for the Arizona Department of Health Services Office of Resiliency, Policy, and Environmental Services, discusses why public health is the perfect career for someone transitioning from the military; Lillia Colasurdo, ASTHO Director of Public Health Law and Data Sharing, tells us how the HTI-2 rule could help those in public health; the Public Health Infrastructure Grant has its own newsletter; and applications are now open for ASTHO's Over-the-Counter Contraception Academy. Arizona Department of Health Services Web Page: AZ Hires Vets ASTHO Blog Article: What Public Health Leaders Need to Know About HTI-2 Proposed Rule PHIG Newsletter ASTHO Web Page: Funding & Collaboration Opportunities  

In this lively recap of the HLTH 2024 conference in Las Vegas, The Dish on Health IT dives deep into the event's biggest topics with host Tony Schueth, CEO of Point-of-Care Partners, and guest co-host Seth Joseph, Managing Director of Summit Health and contributor to Forbes.com. Known for its forward-looking focus on healthcare innovation, HLTH 2024 was packed with discussions on artificial intelligence, data interoperability, data security, and the emerging technologies shaping the industry.Tony and Seth kick off the episode by reflecting on HLTH's unique vibe, contrasting it with other industry events like HIMSS. They offer honest reactions to the glitzy atmosphere and networking opportunities that HLTH provides and discuss how its “futuristic” focus is a magnet for healthcare investors, entrepreneurs, and thought leaders. Seth provides a candid look at the range of perspectives on AI in healthcare. While excitement around generative AI applications remains high, he notes a growing willingness to challenge its real-world impact and value, marking a shift from last year's unbridled enthusiasm to more cautious optimism. Tony echoes this sentiment, observing that AI and other tech innovations will only prove their worth when they meaningfully improve patient care and operational efficiency.Throughout the episode, Tony shares exclusive clips from his one-on-one interviews with several key industry leaders who each offer unique insights into the conference themes and the road ahead for health IT. The interviews include:Bevey Miner, EVP of Consensus – Bevey shares her views on HLTH as a stage for innovation and the importance of collaboration in advancing health IT solutions.Frank Harvey, CEO of Surescripts – Frank discusses the critical role of data and interoperability in healthcare, and how AI could streamline data exchange and improve patient outcomes while noting the limitations of isolated “point solutions” that need a more holistic approach.Tim Pletcher, CEO of MiHIN – Tim emphasizes the importance of regulatory compliance, particularly with TEFCA, HTI-1 and HTI-2, as well as the need to build trust across state lines to enhance data-sharing frameworks.Charlie Harp, CEO of Clinical Architecture – Charlie dives into the challenges of data quality and the vital role of accurate, clean data in effective AI applications.Brian Anderson, MD, CEO of CHAI – Brian brings a thoughtful perspective on responsible AI use in healthcare, stressing the need for realistic expectations and industry-wide collaboration to ensure AI's impact matches its promise.Tony and Seth revisit the recurring theme of interoperability, an area of focus for POCP. They discuss its complex challenges and how data standards and regulatory shifts are beginning to create a more integrated system. Highlighting Blue Shield of California's partnership with Salesforce on prior authorization as a standout announcement, Tony notes the significance of innovations that simplify administrative burdens on providers and reduce care delays for patients.The episode wraps up with Tony and Seth's thoughts on HLTH's atmosphere, especially the mixed reactions from attendees about the conference's glitzy setup. While some question the balance between style and substance, Tony appreciates the energy and enthusiasm HLTH brings to healthcare, believing it encourages important investment and public interest in health IT. Seth offers a dose of realism, pointing out that while glitz can attract attention and funding, the true test will be in the hard work and strategic planning needed to implement these innovations at scale.For those eager to hear about the latest in healthcare innovation, this episode delivers a nuanced take on HLTH 2024, blending high-level industry insights with grounded observations on where health IT is—and isn't—making an impact.

This OPTalks episode features a conversation between Rev. Dr. Joanne Rodríguez and Dr. Teresa Delgado, who reflects on her experiences as a doctoral student, discussing the unique challenges she faced, particularly as a Latina balancing family responsibilities and academic demands. Dr. Delgado emphasizes the importance of community support, particularly the acompañamiento that HTI offers, which she credits for her perseverance and success. She illustrates the impact of mentorship and the broader implications for women and mothers navigating the academic landscape, and its systemic challenges. Dr. Delgado also describes the dissonance between her embodied understanding of theology and the cerebral expectations of the academy. The conversation highlights the importance of listening to students' experiences and rethinking traditional pedagogical silos within theological institutions. Reflecting on Dr. Daisy Machado's work, Dr. Delgado heightens the potential of community by stating, “I'm thinking about the ways that…contemporary problems like the environmental crisis is requiring us to delve into church history and ethics and biblical studies and systematic theology across all of those, and social scientists and climate scientists draw from all of that kind of expertise to offer some kind of prophetic word into this moment.”

Episode 43: Transforming Pharmacy and Public Health through Health IT - Insights from Pam Schweitzer On this episode, POCP hosts Tony Schueth, CEO of Point-of-Care Partners, and Kim Boyd, Regulatory Resource Center Lead, sit down with Pam Schweitzer, former Assistant Surgeon General and current Chair of the NCPDP Foundation Board of Trustees. Together, they explore the transformative power of health IT in reshaping pharmacy practice and public health. The conversation dives into key topics like interoperability, public health data modernization, and the evolving role of pharmacists in healthcare, especially in rural communities. Pam offers valuable insights into the regulatory landscape, highlighting policies such as CMS 0057 and HTI-2 and how they are driving real-time data exchange between payers, providers, and public health systems. This episode is a must-listen for those interested in healthcare interoperability, pharmacy standards, and the future of public health integration. Find all of our network podcasts on your favorite podcast platforms and be sure to subscribe and like us. Learn more at www.healthcarenowradio.com/listen

In this episode of The Dish on Health IT, Tony Schueth, CEO of Point-of-Care Partners, and Kim Boyd, Regulatory Resource Center Lead, are joined by Pam Schweitzer, former Assistant Surgeon General of the United States and current Chair of the NCPDP Foundation Board of Trustees. Together, they deliver an in-depth discussion on critical topics impacting the health IT landscape, including interoperability, public health data modernization, and evolving healthcare regulations.The episode begins with introductions from Tony and Kim, highlighting Pam's extensive career in healthcare, ranging from her leadership roles in the Indian Health Service and the Veterans Affairs (VA) system to her current position as chair of the NCPDP Foundation. Pam reflects on her experience overseeing the transition from paper to electronic health records and how this complex shift required the coordination of multiple healthcare departments, including radiology and labs.Pam shares her insights into how policy changes, such as CMS 0057 and the HTI-2 proposed rule, are shaping the future of healthcare interoperability. The trio discusses how these regulations, aimed at improving data sharing between payers, providers, and public health systems, will ultimately drive real-time data exchange. They also emphasize the importance of infrastructure, standards, and innovation to support these efforts.As the discussion moves forward, Pam talks about her work on public health initiatives, particularly around pharmacy interoperability, maternal health, and the broader impacts of nutrition and food supply on community health. Kim and Pam also explore the evolving role of pharmacists in public health, especially in rural areas where they often serve as the primary healthcare providers.The conversation includes key steps for modernizing public health data systems, such as addressing the data silos between healthcare and public health systems. Pam emphasizes the need for greater collaboration and data sharing to enable a more effective public health response, especially during crises like pandemics or natural disasters.Pam, Kim, and Tony also touch on the role of the Trusted Exchange Framework and Common Agreement (TEFCA) in promoting data fluidity and expanding the integration of pharmacists and other healthcare stakeholders into the broader healthcare ecosystem.The episode wraps up with Pam expressing her optimism for the future of health IT and public health interoperability, while stressing the importance of ongoing collaboration between stakeholders, from policymakers to healthcare technology vendors. Kim adds that the evolution of pharmacy practice and regulatory changes are driving significant improvements in patient care and medication management.Listeners can tune in for a deep dive into the intersections of health IT policy, pharmacy standards, and public health modernization, with practical insights from leaders in the field. This episode is a must-listen for those interested in healthcare interoperability, the impact of CMS and ONC policies, and the future of public health and pharmacy integration.Catch the full episode on your preferred podcast platform, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Healthcare Now Radio, or watch the video version on YouTube.Other resources you may be interested in:Healthy People 2030 – Data and Information Systemshttps://health.gov/healthypeople/objectives-and-data/browse-objectives/public-health-infrastructurePublic Health Infrastructure - Healthy People 2030 | health.govhttps://health.gov/healthypeople/objectives-and-data/browse-objectives/public-health-infrastructureStrategies for Public Health Interoperability | PHDI | CDChttps://www.cdc.gov/data-interoperability/php/public-health-strategy/index.htmlMarch 27, 2024 – Draft 2024-2030 Federal Health IT Strategic Planhttps://www.healthit.gov/sites/default/files/page/2024-03/Draft_2024-2030_Federal_Health_IT_Strategic_%20Plan.pdf2023 – Infrastructure for Scaling and Spreading Whole Health – Health Informaticshttps://www.nationalacademies.org/our-work/transforming-health-care-to-create-whole-health-strategies-to-assess-scale-and-spread-the-whole-person-approach-to-health 

Reed Smith partners share insights about U.S. Department of Health and Human Services initiatives to stave off misuse of AI in the health care space. Wendell Bartnick and Vicki Tankle discuss a recent executive order that directs HHS to regulate AI's impact on health care data privacy and security and investigate whether AI is contributing to medical errors. They explain how HHS collaborates with non-federal authorities to expand AI-related protections; and how the agency is working to ensure that AI outputs are not discriminatory. Stay tuned as we explore the implications of these regulations and discuss the potential benefits and risks of AI in healthcare.  ----more---- Transcript: Intro: Hello, and welcome to Tech Law Talks, a podcast brought to you by Reed Smith's Emerging Technologies Group. In each episode of this podcast, we will discuss cutting-edge issues on technology, data, and the law. We will provide practical observations on a wide variety of technology and data topics to give you quick and actionable tips to address the issues you are dealing with every day.  Wendell: Welcome to our new series on AI. Over the coming months, we'll explore the key challenges and opportunities within the rapidly evolving AI landscape. Today, we will focus on AI in healthcare. My name is Wendell Bartnick. I'm a partner in Reed Smith's Houston office. I have a degree in computer science and focused on AI during my studies. Now, I'm a tech and data lawyer representing clients in healthcare, including providers, payers, life sciences, digital health, and tech clients. My practice is a natural fit given all the innovation in this industry. I'm joined by my partner, Vicki Tankle.  Vicki: Hi, everyone. I'm Vicki Tankle, and I'm a digital health and health privacy lawyer based in Reed Smith's Philadelphia office. I've spent the last decade or so supporting health industry clients, including healthcare providers, pharmaceutical and medical device manufacturers, health plans, and technology companies navigate the synergies between healthcare and technology and advising on the unique regulatory risks that are created when technology and innovation far outpace our legal and regulatory frameworks. And we're oftentimes left managing risks in the gray, which as of today, July 30th, 2024, is where we are with AI and healthcare. So when we think about the use of AI in healthcare today, there's a wide variety of AI tools that support the health industry. And among those tools, a broad spectrum of the use of health information, including protected health information, or PHI, regulated by HIPAA, both to improve existing AI tools and to develop new ones. And if we think about the spectrum as measuring the value or importance of the PHI, the individuals individuals identifiers themselves, it may be easier to understand that the far ends of the spectrum and easier to understand the risks at each end. Regulators in the industry have generally categorized use of PHI in AI into two buckets, low risk and high risk. But the middle is more difficult and where there can be greater risk because it's where we find the use or value of PHI in the AI model to be potentially debatable. So on the one hand of the spectrum, for example, the lower risk end, there are AI tools such as natural language processors, where individually identifiable health information is not centric to the AI model. But instead, for this example, it's the handwritten notes of the healthcare professional that the AI model learns from. And with more data and more notes, the tool's recognition of the letters themselves, not the words the letters form, such as patient's name, diagnosis, or lab results, the better the tool operates. Then on the other hand of the spectrum, the higher risk end, there are AI tools such as patient-facing next best action tools that are based on an individual's patient medical history, their reported symptoms, their providers, their prescribed medications, potentially their physiological measurements, or similar information, and they offer real-time customized treatment plans with provider oversight. Provider-facing clinical decision support tools similarly support the diagnosis and treatment of individual patients based on individual's information. And then in the middle of the spectrum, we have tools like hospital logistics planners. So think of tools that think about when the patient was scheduled for an x-ray, when they were transported to the x-ray department, how long did they wait before they got the x-ray, and how long after they received the x-ray were they provided with the results. These tools support population-based activities that relate to improving health or reducing costs, as well as case management and care coordination, which begs the question, do we really need to know that patient's identity for the tool to be useful? Maybe yes, if we also want to know the patient's sex, their date of birth, their diagnosis, date of admission. Otherwise, we may want to consider whether this tool can be done and be effective without that individually identifiable information. What's more is that there's no federal law that applies to the use of regulated health data in AI. HIPAA was first enacted in 1996 to encourage healthcare providers and insurers to move away from paper medical and billing records and to get online. And so when HIPAA has been updated over the years, the law still remains outdated in that it does not contemplate the use of data to develop or improve AI. So we're faced with applying an old statute to new technology and data use. Again, operating in a gray area that's not uncommon in digital health or for our clients. And to that end, there are several strategies that our HIPAA-regulated clients are thinking of when they're thinking of permissible ways to use PHI in the context of AI. So treatment, payment, healthcare operations activities for covered entities, proper management and administration for business associates, certain research activities and individual authorizations, or de-identified information are all strategies that our clients are currently thinking through in terms of permissible uses of PHI in AI. Wendell: So even though HIPAA hasn't been updated to apply directly to AI, that doesn't mean that HHS has ignored it. So AI, as we all know, has been used in healthcare for many years. And in fact, HHS has actually issued some guidance previously. Under the White House's Executive Order 14110, back in the fall of 2023, which was called Safe, secure, and trustworthy development and use of artificial intelligence, jump-started additional HHS efforts. So I'm going to talk about seven items in that executive order that apply directly to the health industry, and then we'll talk about what HHS has done since this executive order. So first, the executive order requires the promotion of additional investment in AI, and just to help prioritize AI projects, including safety and privacy and security. The executive order also requires that HHS create an AI task force that is supposed to meet and create a strategic plan that covers several topics with AI, including AI-enabled technology, long-term safety and real-world performance monitoring, equity principles, safety, privacy, and security, documentation, state and local rules, and then promotion of workplace efficiency and satisfaction. faction. Third, HHS is required to establish an AI safety program that is supposed to identify and track clinical errors produced by AI and store that in a centralized database for use. And then based on what that database contains, they're supposed to propose recommendations for preventing errors and then avoiding harms from AI. Fourth, the executive order requires that all federal agencies, including HHS, focus on increasing compliance with existing federal law on non-discrimination. Along with that includes education and greater enforcement efforts. Fifth, HHS is required to evaluate the current quality of AI services, and that means developing policies and procedures and infrastructure for overseeing AI quality, including with respect to medical devices. Sixth, HHS is required to develop a strategy for regulating the use of AI in the drug development process. Of course, FDA has already been regulating this space for a while. And then seventh, the executive order actually calls on Congress to pass a federal privacy law. But even without that, HHS's AI task force is including privacy and security, as part of its strategic plan. So given those seven requirements really for HHS to cover, what have they done since the fall of 2023? Well, as the end of July 2024, HHS has created a funding opportunity for applicants to receive money if they develop innovative ways to evaluate and improve the quality of healthcare data used by AI. HHS has also created the AI task force. And many of our clients are asking us, you know, about AI governance. What can they do to mitigate risk from AI? And HHS has, the task force has issued a plan for state, local, tribal, and territorial governments related to privacy, safety, security, bias, and fraud. And even though that applies to the public sector, Our private sector clients should take a look at that so that they know what HHS is thinking in terms of AI governance. Along with this publication, NIST also produces several excellent resources that companies can use to help them with their AI governance journey. Also important is that HHS has recently restructured internally to try to consolidate HHS's ability to regulate technology and areas connected to technology and place that under ONC. And ONC, interestingly enough, has posted job postings for a chief AI officer, a chief technology officer, and a chief data officer. So we would expect that once those roles are filled, they will be highly influential in how HHS looks at AI, both internally and then also externally, and how it will impact the strategic thinking and position of HHS going forward with respect to AI. Our provider and tech clients have also been interested in how AI and what HHS is saying affects certified health IT. And earlier this year, actually, ONC published the HTI-1 rule, which, among other things, is establishes transparency requirements for AI that's offered in connection with certified health IT. And that rule, the compliance deadline for that rule is December 31st of this year. HHS has also been involved in focusing on non-discrimination just as the executive order requires. And so our clients are asking, can they use AI for certain processes and procedures? And in fact, it appears that HHS strongly endorses the use of AI in technology, improving patient outcomes, etc. They've certainly not published anything that says AI should not be used. And in fact, CMS issued a final rule this year and FAQs that clarify that AI can be used to process claims under Medicare Advantage plans, as long as there's human oversight and all other laws are compliant. So there is no indication at all from HHS that using AI is somehow prevented or companies should be worried about using it as long as they comply with existing law. So after the White House executive order in the fall of 2023, HHS has a lot of work to do. They've done some, but there's still a lot to do related to AI. And we should expect more guidance and activity in the second half of 2024.  Outro: Tech Law Talks is a Reed Smith production. Our producers are Ali McCardell and Shannon Ryan. For more information about Reed Smith's Emerging Technologies Practice, please email techlawtalks@reedsmith.com. You can find our podcasts on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, reedsmith.com, and our social media accounts.  Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for educational purposes. It does not constitute legal advice and is not intended to establish an attorney-client relationship, nor is it intended to suggest or establish standards of care applicable to particular lawyers in any given situation. Prior results do not guarantee a similar outcome. Any views opinions or comments made by any external guest speaker are not to be attributed to Reed Smith LLP or its individual lawyers.  All rights reserved. Transcript is auto-generated.

The man, the myth, the LEGEND, Mr. Aneesh Chopra, Chief Strategy Officer at Arcadia and first U.S. Chief Technology Officer, joins Tech It to the Limit for a lively discussion on open data and public-private partnerships that are jet fueling the transition to value-based healthcare. Plus! Aneesh shares riveting tales from the healthcare technology Folklore of Failures and reveals what happens when latte-drinking hoodie-wearing Gen Z'ers get an invite to the White House BoardRoom. Yeet!Obama healthcare.gov demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCQSGnZ0lTg&pp=ygUZb2JhbWEgaGVhbHRoY2FyZS5nb3YgZGVtbw%3D%3DMayo Housing Index: Overview - Mayo Clinic Housing-Based Socioeconomic Status (HOUSES) Program - Mayo Clinic ResearchHTI-2 rule: https://www.healthit.gov/sites/default/files/page/2024-07/HTI-2_ProposedRule_Overview_Factsheet_508.pdfBuzzword Bingo Card: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FNBWfse2EYz2UPX6sd9PRF8Hax30Wehf1gs41SnyIoU/edit?usp=sharingOriginal music by: Evan O'Donovan

Host Dr. Anders interviews Jeffery Smith the Deputy Director, Certification & Testing Division, ASTP/ONC., Jeff talks about the history of EHR certification and lays out the case for the importance of standards. He also discusses the goals of the administration and the HTI rules 1 and 2. His golden wand to help healthcare is the contiued and sufficient funds to develop and improve standards. Find all of our network podcasts on your favorite podcast platforms and be sure to subscribe and like us. Learn more at www.healthcarenowradio.com/listen/

Host Dr. Anders interviews Kat McDavitt, President of Innsena; CEO of the Zorya Foundation and host of the Health Tech Talk Show. Together, they delve into recent regulatory proposals like HTI-1/2 and TEFCA, exploring their potential impacts on healthcare interoperability and data sharing. They also tackle challenges faced by rural healthcare providers, the importance of personal connection in care, limitations of AI and more. Find all of our network podcasts on your favorite podcast platforms and be sure to subscribe and like us. Learn more at www.healthcarenowradio.com/listen/

In this episode of OP Talks, Dr. Javier Viera, President and Professor of Education and Leadership at Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary, and Dr. Maria Liu Wong, City Seminary of New York Provost, discuss her recent book  On Becoming Wise Together: Learning and Leading in the City (Eerdmans, 2023). This work proposes “that intercultural and communal understandings of theological teaching and learning suit the context of a complex and quickly changing urban world better than individualistic, rational Western habits of knowing.” According to Dr. Wong, “This book reframes traditional Euro-North American conceptions of theological education by reflecting critically on my lived experience as a British-born Chinese-North American woman, a family member, an immigrant, an urban theological educator, a maker, a gallery curator, a community gardener, a Girl Scout troop leader, and a scholar.” This conversation and the book are part of of the Theological Education between the Times (TEBT) series, an initiative out of HTI member school Emory University Candler School of Theology that “gathers diverse groups of people for critical, theological conversations about the meanings and purposes of theological education. The project begins with a recognition that theological education is between the times, on the way. And it works in the confidence that we do not walk this road alone.”

Regulation establishes a standardized process that aids providers in consistently delivering quality care. However, it's crucial that regulations serve to support both patients and providers, rather than impede them. Achieving this delicate balance is the order of the day. So, how can we effectively regulate AI and other emerging technologies to advance patient care without stifling innovation? On this Digital Health Leaders podcast recorded at ViVE, Russ Branzell, CHIME's President and CEO, pulls insights on some key digital health challenges from Micky Tripathi, Ph.D., M.P.P., National Coordinator for Health Information Technology at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and Troy Tazbaz, Director of Digital Health at the Food & Drug Administration. The trio chats about shaping the future of health information technology; they reflect on how far we've come and the standardization process; now that we're consistently collecting patient data, how do we make sense of it? All agree that generative AI is going to be a critical component of care delivery but concerns over labor shortages might be even more important. Because if you don't have medical professionals in the field, it doesn't matter what you've done in other areas… Listen to this episode for additional insights on the HTI-1 rule, the challenges and the future of AI, balancing innovation with regulation, and more.

Gravity Project is an HL7 FHIR Accelerator, collaborative initiative with the goal to develop consensus-driven data standards to support the collection, use, and exchange of data to address the social determinants of health (SDOH). In 2023, Gravity Project was named in the White House “US Playbook to Address the Social Determinants of Health” and ONC's HTI-1 final rule requiring adoption of USCDI v3 as the standard for certification by January 2016 includes the four Gravity curated SDOH elements. Listen to learn about how data standards can accelerate your work as Health IT professionals to support individuals and families impacted by the opioid crisis. GUEST  Vanessa Candelora  Program Manager, Gravity Project MODERATOR  Otto Reemelin  CIO, Southwest Human Development  Member of the CHIME OTF's Technology and Interoperability subcommittee  What you'll learn about: - What Gravity Project is and why it exists. - How it's system agnostic and can be utilized in any EHR/system. - Gravity Project's existing/current/upcoming work. - What Gravity Project offers, and who can access it and how. - Why it was created and what issues and problems it's addressing, with real world examples. -How Gravity Project can help to reduce the trauma and stress for families of fragile infants seeking care from agencies in the community who specialize in neonatal abstinence syndrome, food insecurity, or housing instability. -The top 3 takeaways everyone in healthcare IT should know so they can leverage the power of the Gravity Project. The CHIME Opioid Task Force (OTF) was launched in early 2018 with a simple mission: to turn the tide on the opioid epidemic using the knowledge and expertise of the nation's healthcare IT leaders. While our mission is simple, achieving it is not. Opioid addiction is a complex disease that requires long-term, if not lifetime, care from well-informed clinicians who are supported with easy-to-use and reliable tools.

Deputy National Coordinator for Health IT Steven Posnack discusses a few updates to data sharing and interoperability rules for the health IT community, including HTI-1, HTI-2, United States Core Data for Interoperability (USCDI) and Trusted Exchange Framework and Common Agreement (TEFCA). As organizations work to adopt new interoperability standards and policies, artificial intelligence is showing promise for its impact in health IT processes. Posnack highlights how ONC is starting to think about AI and associated ethical concerns.

January 22, 2024: Mari Savickis, Head of Government Relations at CHIME, joins Bill for the news. They discuss the impacts of AI on healthcare, exploring how it's more than just cutting-edge technology, but also a tool for improving efficiency in clinical and administrative workflows. As healthcare continues to be a critical issue in the election year, how will AI shape patient experiences and healthcare delivery? They address the complexities of healthcare legislation and the implications of new rules like HTI-1, which is set to revolutionize EHR certification. With healthcare's significant portion of GDP and its role as a leading cause of bankruptcy, the conversation also turns to the financial challenges in healthcare. How will these financial pressures shape policy and patient care? This episode offers deep insights into the intersection of technology, policy, and the real-world challenges facing healthcare today.Key Points:Rural HealthcareHealthcare LegislationFinancial ChallengesAI DiversificationAdvanced Cyber SecurityNews articles:ONC info blocking disincentives are excessive says the American Hospital AssociationIt's time FDA and CISA update their medical device agreement, says GAOFTC Proposes Amendments to Strengthen and Modernize the Health Breach Notification RuleThe Health Data Breach Notification RuleThis Week Health SubscribeThis Week Health TwitterThis Week Health LinkedinAlex's Lemonade Stand: Foundation for Childhood Cancer Donate

Dr. Michael Blackman, Chief Medical Officer at Greenway Health always has his finger on the pulse of healthcare. Right now, he is keeping his eye on the HTI-1 rule from the ONC, the pace of change in healthcare, and how AI is deployed. Healthcare IT Today caught up with Dr. Blackman at the 2023 MGMA Leaders Conference in Nashville. We wanted to get his thoughts on the top challenges facing healthcare right now. Learn more about Greenway Health at https://www.greenwayhealth.com/ Find more great health IT content at https://www.healthcareittoday.com/

2023 has been a busy year for information blocking regulations: HHS ONC's HTI-1 proposed rule in April (which was finalized on December 13, after this podcast was recorded), OIG's final rule in June, and November's proposed enforcement rule for health care providers. Dawn Morgenstern, Senior Director of Consulting Services and Chief Privacy Officer, Clearwater, speaks with Beth Pitman, Partner, Holland & Knight, about the information blocking regulations and their practical application in matters such as health information management and operations, technology licensing, and M&A diligence. They also share insights on documenting exceptions and structuring contracts and transactions to limit liability. Sponsored by Clearwater.To learn more about AHLA and the educational resources available to the health law community, visit americanhealthlaw.org.

Thank you for tuning into The Dish on Health IT's 2023 end-of-year recap. Point-of-Care Partners' (POCP) subject matter experts, including, Pooja Babbrah, Pharmacy and PBM Practice Lead; Jocelyn Keegan, Payer Provider Practice Lead; and Kim Boyd, Regulatory Resource Center Lead, gathered to discuss their top 3 health IT milestones for 2023 and their expectations for 2024. They also delved into the highly anticipated final version of the Interop 3, focused on advancing interoperability and improving prior authorization rules. Offering insights and advice, they guided listeners on approaching the initial review of this significant final rule. Point-of-Care Partners extends warm holiday wishes and a Happy New Year to all. Host, Pooja Babbrah kicked off the episode informing listeners that this episode will be a special format. POCP has subject matter experts galore so this episode will bring together a small group of POCPers to look back at 2023, discuss what 2024 will have in store and talk a bit about the anticipated final Interop 3 rule.Cohosts Jocelyn Keegan, recently honored as the DirectTrust Interoperability Hero, and Kim Boyd, a contributor steeped in policy knowledge and serving as POCP's Regulatory Resource Center Lead, introduced themselves before the trio transitioned to the main discussion.They contemplated a format for the day, aiming to dedicate the first half of the conversation to a round-robin, where each would share their personal top three events or trends from 2023. Pooja referenced the HIT Perspectives 2023 trends article, outlining POCP's collective trends. However, today's discussion allowed each participant to present their individual lists before delving into the much-anticipated final rule.Top of FormKim initiated the round robin by expressing that her top priority is healthcare interoperability, acknowledging its vast scope emerging from the 21st Century Cures Act and beyond. Within this expansive interoperability landscape, she highlighted the advancements within the FHIR community, predicting a swifter adoption of FHIR than previously witnessed. Her second ranking milestone revolves around artificial intelligence and machine learning, particularly their rapid uptake and integration into policy. Kim anticipated a more robust policy oversight of AI in the future. Her third notable milestone encompasses telehealth and telepharmacy, noting that the COVID-19 pandemic significantly increased patient reliance on remote visits for healthcare.Jocelyn followed, emphasizing that her list complemented Kim's perspective, offering a different angle. Her primary inclusion highlighted the industry's transition into implementation mode in 2023, witnessing real-world progress and widespread adoption of FHIR at scale.Jocelyn provided examples supporting these observations. The first involves the reaction to the proposed attachments rule, released alongside the prior authorization proposed rule. While many organizations expressed their belief that attachments might not be crucial for future progress, the responses to the Interop 3 proposed rule were predominantly positive.Her second HIT milestone relates to AI but primarily focuses on acknowledging and addressing the baked-in bias potentially inherent in AI and other advanced technologies. She highlighted the steps included in the HTI-1 proposed rule, aiming to mitigate bias and initiate discussions on ensuring the unintentional disruption of the path towards equity.Jocelyn's third milestone centers on TEFCA, highlighting the progress made and the anticipated clarification expected in 2024 regarding its scope and limitations.She connected TEFCA back to the first topic, emphasizing the necessity for alignment between the TEFCA infrastructure, rule framework, and the emerging API world. There have been ongoing discussions and industry feedback stressing the need for better alignment between the FHIR roadmap and the TEFCA roadmap as the industry shifts towards more real-time interactions.Finally, Pooja presented her list, with pharmacy interoperability holding the top spot as her absolute milestone. She expressed her honor in participating in the HITAC Pharmacy Interoperability Task Force, emphasizing POCP's long-standing advocacy for integrating pharmacists into continuity of care discussions. She highlighted the importance of this focus in bridging access gaps, facilitating genomics testing, and building momentum for sharing data with pharmacists. This includes ensuring their access to patient records and their ability to share data with the broader care team, a significant development.Her second and third priorities revolved around emerging trends in pharmacy with broader implications. Second on her list was Pharmacogenomics, involving genetic testing to discern the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of certain medications for specific patients. Pooja's third priority was digital therapeutics, an area where POCP has already made strides. She noted the growing emphasis, not only for pharmacies in understanding how to administer these therapeutics but also for payers in determining coverage policies.The discussion then pivoted to sharing reactions and perspectives on each other's lists. Kim expressed her delight in hearing pharmacy interoperability as Pooja's top priority. She highlighted the dichotomy within the healthcare ecosystem, emphasizing the divide between pharmacy services and NCPDP standards on one side, and clinical services with HL7 standards, including FHIR, on the other. Kim noted the increasing convergence between these realms, particularly with enhanced collaboration between NCPDP and HL7. She anticipated continued advancements in NCPDP concerning pharmacogenomics, digital therapeutics, social determinants, and the flow of relevant health data.When questioned, Jocelyn emphasized the criticality of integrating pharmacy into data flow and recognizing pharmacists as integral members of the care team. She stressed the impact of provider shortages in recent engagements with the US healthcare system.Jocelyn echoed Kim's perspective on the alignment of pharmacy and clinical standards, emphasizing their collaborative synergy rather than competition. She emphasized the need to ensure the right patient data reaches the appropriate care team members, including pharmacists, at the opportune moment, asserting that this alignment significantly enhances patient care.Jocelyn highlighted that technology is designed to facilitate transitioning from one standard to another. She emphasized the increasing significance of robust data exchange, particularly the exchange of quality data, between payers and pharmacies as the industry transitions towards value-based care.Agreeing with Jocelyn, Pooja explained the challenges in integrating pharmacists into value-based care contracts consistently. However, she noted that as data exchange between pharmacies, other healthcare settings, and payers improves, barriers diminish. Pooja underscored the broader benefits of enhancing pharmacy interoperability, emphasizing advantages not only for pharmacists but also for providers and payers.Highlighting the pivotal role of pharmacists, Pooja stressed their potential as invaluable resources for gathering social determinants of health data. She emphasized their significance in care delivery, identifying patient needs, and facilitating connections with community services. Given the frequency of pharmacist-patient interactions, she emphasized the criticality of collecting and sharing this information with the broader provider team.The conversation then shifted to the Interop 3 – Advancing Interoperability and Improving Prior Authorization rule, expected to be released by the end of 2023 or early 2024. Kim initiated the discussion, focusing primarily on the prior authorization aspect of the rule, acknowledging its broader scope.Kim emphasized the crucial need to establish transparency and automation to address the delays in treatment caused by prior authorization or impeding patients' understanding of their coverage when a PA is not approved. The rule encompasses various APIs facilitating exchanges among payers, providers, and patients, utilizing the Da Vinci implementation guides.Regarding industry feedback on the proposed Interop 3 rules, Kim highlighted the notably high volume of comments, predominantly expressing overwhelming positivity. Approximately 68% of the comments agreed with the rule's intent. Although some HIPAA-related concerns were expressed, very few disagreed with the rule overall, which was intriguing given its extensive scope. Providers consistently voiced their desire for a more efficient prior authorization process, advocating for faster turnaround times and increased transparency regarding reasons for denial.Kim underscored the significance of the inclusion of the patient access API, stressing its value for all individuals as patients. She emphasized the importance of augmented access and transparency, not only concerning clinical information like test results but also regarding payer information related to coverage and reasons for prior authorization denial.Jocelyn aligned with Kim's overall assessment and expressed disappointment over the proposed rules' omission of automation for specialty medications or treatments covered under the medical benefit. She highlighted this overlooked area, expressing disappointment at its continued exclusion.One thing that brought Jocelyn immense satisfaction was the inclusion and acknowledgment of the Da Vinci Guides' role, which significantly boosted morale. There has been noticeable maturity and widespread adoption of Da Vinci guides this year.Jocelyn expressed surprise at the absence of staggered deadlines in the proposed Interop 3 rule. From the Da Vinci community perspective, strong opinions have been consistently voiced to all HHS colleagues—ONC and CMS—over the past couple of years, emphasizing the importance of promoting gradual progress rather than imposing substantial leaps. Hence, the alignment of everything with the 2026 deadline was quite unexpected.Pooja expressed her appreciation for Jocelyn's mention of the absence of specialty medication. She highlighted the stakeholders' growing interest in addressing specialty automation. Notably, many specialty medications require prior authorization, making it surprising that a proposed rule focused on prior authorization didn't include items covered under the medical benefit, such as specialty medications.The discussion shifted towards offering advice to listeners on how to approach their initial review of the final rule when it's released. Pooja inquired if there were any specific strategies to consider. Jocelyn openly admitted that she would start her review by performing a search using control + F for the words "Da Vinci" before delving into noting the specific IGs named and understanding the timeline. Additionally, she highly recommended reviewers commence with the rule's introduction, as it sets the expected scope for the details.Kim humorously mentioned her plan to break out the eggnog before diving into the review, expressing eagerness due to its overdue nature. She echoed Jocelyn's emphasis on paying special attention to standards requirements, specifications, and particularly the timelines. She's curious if any staggering will be introduced.Kim highlighted her interest in uncovering any mentions of TEFCA and seeking details regarding prior authorization. Anticipating stakeholders' keenness for the timeline, she pondered how organizations less proactive in their approach might adjust their interoperability roadmaps.The trio acknowledged the waiting game as they anticipated the final rule, expecting it to drop within a week or a few weeks. In closing the episode, they shifted focus to their expectations for progress in 2024, sharing their final thoughts.Expressing gratitude, Jocelyn thanked Pooja, Kim, and all the dedicated Da Vinci members committed to transforming healthcare. She emphasized the privilege of their work and the influential role they play in driving industry progress forward.Continuing, Jocelyn emphasized the importance of stakeholders having a plan in place, having selected partners, and scoped out project requirements, considering the multiple requirements in proposed rules like HTI-1 or disincentives related to information blocking. With policy activity accumulating, starting work becomes increasingly challenging if stakeholders haven't initiated their projects.She highlighted that interoperability and emerging policies transcend mere technology, impacting fundamental business transformation. It's about establishing collaborative frameworks with partners, providers, suppliers, pharmacies, and community members.Recognizing the learning curve, Jocelyn stressed the need to leverage collective experience, emphasizing the necessity of investing in building skilled professionals for this transformative journey.Additionally, Jocelyn pointed out the considerable activity at the state level, highlighting states like Washington, California, and Utah potentially setting more aggressive deadlines than anticipated by CMS.Kim contributed by mentioning the Office of the National Coordinator's rule-making efforts around certification. Specifically, she referenced the FY2025 rule encompassing real-time prescription benefit and the new SCRIPT standard, particularly pertinent to pharmacy interoperability.Agreeing with Jocelyn's state-level observation, Kim highlighted a Wisconsin Bill allocating $500,000 annually to drive the adoption of real-time prescription benefit tools. States like Wisconsin actively support moving patient empowerment solutions forward where progress has been slower.In 2024, increased AI-related policy activity is expected, not only at the federal level but also within certain states as they unveil details regarding the integration of artificial intelligence in healthcare. Privacy and security will be pivotal aspects of these developments. TEFCA's prominence, especially in the initial six months of 2024, cannot be overstated.POCP houses experts deeply entrenched in these areas, dedicating their days to aiding organizations in navigating the landscape, aligning strategies with competitive trends and policy shifts, as they are intrinsically intertwined. Further industry consolidations are anticipated, influencing healthcare interoperability and patient care delivery.Looking ahead, there's a breadth of promising developments on the horizon, but staying abreast of these changes requires daily vigilance—a facet in which we aim to empower and assist. Pooja echoed these sentiments about 2024, emphasizing the significance of pharmacy interoperability.She highlighted the recent recommendations from high-tech quarters, advocating for pharmacy inclusion at the table. Pooja referenced the Sequoia annual conference, where the importance of not overlooking pharmacists was underscored. She hinted at discussions swirling around the potential formation of a pharmacy workgroup under the Sequoia project.The recommendations stemming from the HITAC pharmacy interoperability task force aimed to unite stakeholders and emphasize various focal points in the field.Reflecting on 2024, Pooja's closing thoughts emphasized the importance of collaboration. Encouraging individuals with substantial pharmacy knowledge and hands-on experience in operability to step up and contribute, she urged for their active involvement to ensure the comprehensive inclusion of this expertise.Closing the episode, Pooja extended her gratitude to her esteemed colleagues, Jocelyn Keegan and Kim Boyd, and expressed sincere appreciation to the audience for their unwavering support of The Dish on Health IT, underscoring its immense value to everyone involved.

In dieser Folge sprechen Klaus, Sascha und Daniel mit Klaus Kiesel von HTI Gienger KG (Fachgroßhandel für Tiefbau und Industriebedarf) über das Thema Großhandel in der Wasserwirtschaft.

On today's episode of Gist Healthcare Daily, we hear the second part of JC's conversation with Micky Tripathi, Ph.D., M.P.P., National Coordinator for Health Information Technology at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. In this conversation, they talk more about the proposed HTI-1 rule, including provisions regarding transparency in AI algorithms. They also discuss the Trusted Exchange Framework and Common Agreement (TEFCA), which aims to establish a universal floor for interoperability across the country. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today's episode of Gist Healthcare Daily, we hear the first part of JC's conversation with Micky Tripathi, Ph.D., M.P.P., National Coordinator for Health Information Technology at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. He joined the podcast to talk more about ONC's recently released proposed rule, “Health Data, Technology, and Interoperability: Certification Program Updates, Algorithm Transparency, and Information Sharing”--better known as HTI-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Adam welcomes Tim Rink, Founder of HTI Inc. for another episode in the "How I Built It" series.   Tim's passion for audiology and hearing loss was sparked by a loud car he had as a young man. He talks about how this experience led him on his path to learning more about hearing loss and audiology, and eventually led him to start his own company. We dive into how OSHA adopting the "Hearing Conservation" approach opened up new opportunities for HTI, and how Tim set up a mobile hearing testing business.  Eventually, Tim found that information management was a key to success for his business.   Tim also shares his decision to sell a piece of his business early on, and why it paid off for him in the end. If you're an entrepreneur looking for inspiration and insight into building a successful business, this is an episode you don't want to miss. Don't forget to rate our show 5 stars and subscribe so you never miss an episode of The Cash Podcast. Please be sure to check out this episode on YouTube! https://bit.ly/3OagYrw   Libertas Wealth: https://bit.ly/3HpmN2o  Subscribe on iTunes:  https://apple.co/3NQHjeO  Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3aTTCse  Subscribe on Google Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3QmGmMU  For more VIDEO podcasts like this one: https://bit.ly/3OagYrw  For more AUDIO podcasts: https://bit.ly/3PHXHzo  For educational VIDEOS and Stock Market Updates: https://bit.ly/3O8Yo3u  For general financial educational ARTICLES: https://bit.ly/3aP0Ldn For more Real-Time Updates on the Economy and State of the Markets Follow Adam Koós on Twitter @AdamKoos: https://bit.ly/3tzccwk  Or follow Adam on Instagram @FinancialSurgeon: https://bit.ly/3QobpIy  --- Adam Koos, CFP®, CMT® is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER and one of only 2,600+ Chartered Market Technicians (CMT) worldwide, as well as a Certified Financial Technician (CFTe®) thru the International Federation of Technical Analysts (IFTA). He's been named by Columbus Business First as one of their 20 People to Know in Finance, was a recipient of the Forty Under 40 award, is ranked by Investopedia as one of America's top 100 Most Influential Advisers, and is the winner of the coveted Better Business Bureau Torch Award for Ethical Enterprising. Adam serves his clients as the president and portfolio manager at Libertas Wealth Management Group, Inc., a Fee-Only Registered Investment Advisory (RIA) firm, located in Columbus, Ohio. ******* The audio and video contained herein is intended for those interested in finance, searching for a financial advisor, wealth manager, financial planner, and/or retirement planning. While we are CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNERS (through the College for Financial Planning) and work with clients all over the country, our business is run out of Columbus / Central Ohio. If you are looking for wealth management, financial planning, a financial counselor, wealth advisor, or financial consultant – especially a fee-only, Fiduciary Registered Investment Advisor – we provide money management and financial services for individuals and couples (i.e. – a 401k rollover), as well as business owners (i.e. – 401k, SIMPLE, SEP IRA's, as well as cash balance and other various retirement plans).

Human trafficking affects millions of people not just around the world, but also right here in New England. So many cases go unreported each and every year, and it's incredibly easy for trafficking to take place right under our noses without most of us even realizing it. This week's episode is the first in a two part series on human trafficking. Victor Boutros, the CEO and co-founder of Human Trafficking Institute, talks with Nichole about the broader scale of the problem, and what HTI is doing to try and put a stop to it, one step at a time, in conjunction with law enforcement. PLUS: For more than 40 years, Food for Free has been working hard in the Boston area to help save perfectly edible food from ending up in the dumpster, and getting it into the hands of people who lack access to healthy meals. Ben Engle, the COO at Food for Free, explains their process and how you can help make it happen.++ CONTENT WARNING: human trafficking, sexual abuse, child abuse ++

Send us a Text Message.In the first episode of the third season of the Trafficking Matters Podcast, Douglass Fellows Alyssa Grzesiak and Monica Naranjo go over recent updates and reports in the anti-trafficking world. They also introduce themselves and HTI's third Douglass Fellow, Bekah Carey. If you or someone you know is currently in danger of human trafficking, you can view the national human trafficking hotline website here. You can reach the hotline by calling 1-888-373-7888 or texting 233733.Here, you can learn more about the Human Trafficking Institute, the Federal Human Trafficking Report, and the Douglass Fellowship.Check on the 2022 reauthorization of the TVPA's progress here.You can view Shared Hope's 2022 Report Cards here.You can read Polaris's analysis of the 2021 National Human Trafficking Hotline data here.You can reference NCMEC's Attorney Manual here. To contact Alyssa or Monica, please email podcast@traffickinginstitute.org.Produced by Alyssa Grzesiak, Monica Naranjo, and Alicen RodolphEdited by Alicen Rodolph Music: Blurry Vision by Corbyn KitesThank you for listening to the Trafficking Matters Podcast!

In the first episode of the third season of the Trafficking Matters Podcast, Douglass Fellows Alyssa Grzesiak and Monica Naranjo go over recent updates and reports in the anti-trafficking world. They also introduce themselves and HTI's third Douglass Fellow, Bekah Carey. If you or someone you know is currently in danger of human trafficking, you can view the national human trafficking hotline website here. You can reach the hotline by calling 1-888-373-7888 or texting 233733.Here, you can learn more about the Human Trafficking Institute, the Federal Human Trafficking Report, and the Douglass Fellowship.Check on the 2022 reauthorization of the TVPA's progress here.You can view Shared Hope's 2022 Report Cards here.You can read Polaris's analysis of the 2021 National Human Trafficking Hotline data here.You can reference NCMEC's Attorney Manual here. Produced by Alyssa Grzesiak, Monica Naranjo, and Alicen RodolphEdited by Alicen Rodolph Music: Blurry Vision by Corbyn KitesThank you for listening to the Trafficking Matters Podcast!

Er konferencer en mulig markedsføringskanal for din virksomhed? Ja, men, der er flere fælder at falde i. Du skal afgøre, om det er for forretning eller markedsføring, og du undervurderer, hvor meget, det kræver. Vores erfaring: Marketing Brief Live Email Summit Social Ads Conference Ting at være opmærksom på: Er det for markedsføring eller for at tjene penge? HTI tror ikke på, at de to er 100 % forenelige. Hvad koster det at afholde? Konference-lokaler og forplejning Taler-honorar Markedsføringsomkostninger Social Ads Conference 2022 koster ca. 450 tkr. at afholde. Marketing Brief Bio meget mindre. At være arrangør vs. at holde oplæg - og kan du holde oplæg, når du selv arrangerer? Skriv ud til mulige konferencer og tilbyd dig. Det er den mest pragmatiske metode til at få værdi ud af konferencer. Hvorfor afholder Obsidian Social Ads Conference? Etablere thought leader-position Defensivt En god forretning takket være vores emailliste

Ceramah Ustaz Hanan Attaki Dihalangi, Maksiat di Kalangan Pemuda Apakah Berhenti? Oleh. dr. Ratih Paradini (Aktivis Dakwah & Kontributor NarasiPost.Com) Voice over talent: Maya Rohmah NarasiPost.Com- Gelaran Konser Langit Ustaz Hanan Attaki kembali dihalangi, setelah Gresik dan Jember kini Situbondo juga ikut menolak Hanan Attaki. Alasannya Ustaz Hanan diduga eks HTI, meski beliau sudah mengklarifikasi tapi entah mengapa penolakan tetap saja terjadi. Selain itu alasan lainnnya karena diduga ceramah Ustaz Hanan berpotensi menimbulkan konflik. Gus Firjaun selaku Wakil Bupati Jember mengungkapkan penolakan dilakukan oleh sejumlah kalangan, “Unsur yang menolak dari NU, kemudian Ansor, kalau dari Muhammadiyah tidak mempersoalkan. Kalau dari yang lain secara lisan banyak. Bahkan ada yang kemudian agak ekstrem, kalau diteruskan akan dihentikan di tengah jalan.” (21 Juli 2022, faktual.co). Padahal kajian keislaman yang selama ini dilakukan Ustaz Hanan dengan gayanya bisa menggaet kawula muda untuk berhijrah. Ceramahnya adem, bahasanya santun, gayanya yang gaul dikandrungi muda mudi. Sangat aneh bila sekelas Ustaz Hanan ini dikatakan radikal. Apalagi di era kini, potret pemuda semakin mengkhawatirkan, sangat butuh sentuhan Islam. Naskah selengkapnya: https://narasipost.com/2022/08/04/ceramah-ustaz-hanan-attaki-dihalangi-maksiat-di-kalangan-pemuda-apakah-berhenti/ Terimakasih buat kalian yang sudah mendengarkan podcast ini, Follow us on: instagram: http://instagram.com/narasipost Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/narasi.post.9 Fanpage: Https://www.facebook.com/pg/narasipostmedia/posts/ Twitter: Http://twitter.com/narasipost

In this episode, Fin and Luca celebrate 50 episodes of Hear This Idea: all the highs, lows, and near-disasters along the way. We chat about: The HTI origin story Favourite behind the scenes moments Should we argue with guests more? Mistakes we've made (and are still making?) What we've learned about asking better questions Starting projects from scratch Ideas for the next 50 episodes Future topics, dream guests Why does this podcast exist? Podcasting tips A potential new program Our media recommendations

In this episode of OP Talks, President of the American Academy of Religion Dr. Mayra Rivera and American Academy of Arts and Sciences Fellow Dr. Mark D. Jordan discuss his recent book Transforming Fire: Imagining Christian Teaching (Eerdmans, 2021). Among the questions Dr. Jordan engages are: What was Jesus's teaching pedagogy? Considering that he taught in a variety of ways—parable, discussion, miracle performance, ritual observance—how should modern-day Christian teaching happen, especially in a time of significant change to theological education as an institution? Whether teaching Matthew or the Platonic dialogues or Santa Teresa, Dr. Jordan sees his own pedagogy as an attempt to “reactivate that transmission right so [that] it becomes a living thing rather than just inert information passed down, so that the student can actually begin to feel this continuity of instruction of shaping that's passing down." Along with the book, this conversation is part of the Theological Education between the Times (TEBT) series, an initiative out of HTI member school Emory University Candler School of Theology that "gathers diverse groups of people for critical, theological conversations about the meanings and purposes of theological education. The project begins with a recognition that theological education is between the times, on the way. And it works in the confidence that we do not walk this road alone."

In this episode of OP Talks, Professor of Educational Leadership Dr. Mary Hess talks to Hispanic Bible theologian Rev. Dr. Elizabeth Conde-Frazier about her book Atando Cabos: Latinx Contributions to Theological Education (Eerdmans, 2021). “We find ourselves in a time when the forms of ‘church' are transitioning,” writes Rev. Dr. Conde-Frazier. “Theological education may become more of a journey that responds to the needs of that pilgriming community of discernment and activism than an institutional place with courses representing academic or church traditions to be transmitted. Let us follow the Spirit, who, like the wind, is universal, unpredictable, and outside our control.” Along with the book, this conversation is part of the Theological Education between the Times (TEBT) series, an initiative out of HTI member school Emory University Candler School of Theology that "gathers diverse groups of people for critical, theological conversations about the meanings and purposes of theological education. The project begins with a recognition that theological education is between the times, on the way. And it works in the confidence that we do not walk this road alone."

Are you facing a problem in your work that feels like it's too big for you to solve? How do you find hope amidst work that feels overwhelming? Guest Victor Boutros is the CEO and co-founder of the Human Trafficking Institute. Before launching HTI, he served as a federal prosecutor in the US Department of Justice's Human Trafficking Prosecution Unit, and trained law enforcement from different parts of the world on how to investigate and prosecute human trafficking. Victor is co-author of The Locust Effect: Why the End of Poverty Requires the End of Violence. Human Trafficking Institute: https://www.traffickinginstitute.org Scripture References Luke 10:25-37 John 5:1-9 Matthew 18:10-14 John 6:5-13 Matthew 14:22-33 Matthew 25:14-30 Ephesians 2:10 James 4:14 Instagram: @DePreeCenter, @TheologyOfWork Donate. This podcast is made possible through the financial support of people like you. Your gift of any size will enable us to continue resourcing Christians with high-quality biblically-based content that applies to everyday work. Donate here

In most parts of the world and especially where Christianity is flourishing, Pentecostal and charismatic movements predominate. What would it look like for the Western world—beset by the narrative of decline—to participate in this global Spirit-driven movement? (Eerdmans) Dr. Néstor Medina and Rev. Dr. Amos Yong discuss his most recent book, Renewing the Church by the Spirit: Theological Education after Pentecost (Eerdmans, 2020), the second volume of the groundbreaking Theological Education between the Times book series. "I come from a Pentecostal background, and much of my scholarly work has been devoted to exploring a variety of theological themes and topics from my Pentecostal perspective or Pentecostal church, [an] ecclesial set of perspectives,” says Rev. Dr. Yong. "In that respect, this book is part and parcel of that journey as a Pentecostal Christian, as one who's participated in Pentecostal charismatic communities, attempting to think theologically from out of those communities.” This episode of OP Talks is part of the Theological Education between the Times (TEBT) series, an initiative out of HTI member school Emory University Candler School of Theology that "gathers diverse groups of people for critical, theological conversations about the meanings and purposes of theological education. The project begins with a recognition that theological education is between the times, on the way. And it works in the confidence that we do not walk this road alone."

The price control policies that are being discussed in Congress have the potential to harm innovation in the life science industry. But how, exactly?In this episode, we interview Kirsten Axelsen, Senior Advisor at Charles Rivers Associates , about what would change in biopharma if price controls were implemented.In this episode, we discuss:The close relationship between economy and drug developmentThe U.S.'s role in developing over 40% of the world's new medicinesThe potential reduction of biopharma global revenues by 19%What it means globally when 8-15 fewer medicines are made per decadeSome flaws in the health technology assessment (HTI) regarding clinical trialsIncubate Policy Lab is the research arm of Incubate Coalition, where we will be releasing reports, whitepapers, and hosting events in partnership with Charles Richards Associates. You can visit our website for more information.We will be releasing an analysis on the CBO report and how HR 3 will impact life sciences R&D, and another report where we analyze price controls from the venture capital perspective. We also hosted a roundtable, and will be releasing an analysis our findings from experts who attended the event.As we continue this journey together, we want to hear from you, the listener. Email John@incubatecoalition.org or Ashlyn@incubatecoalition.org what's top of mind, what story you want to hear, or what you find interesting!To hear more interviews like this one, subscribe to Making Medicine on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your preferred podcast platform.

Bright Data is a leading publicly available web data platform that enables organizations of all sizes to access data on the internet with complete transparency [00:01:28] Guest Introduction [00:03:39] Talk to us about some of the wave you had to surf you had on the ride to here. [00:06:00] What's the importance that surfing has had in your life? [00:12:19] "You don't need to reinvent everything from scratch" [00:12:55] How do you develop this elusive skill of product? [00:18:42] How do you define publicly available data? [00:27:59] What are some some ways that Bright Data help get transparent view of the web? [00:30:44] What is alternative data? [00:33:58] How do you handle situations where people come and want to use data for some sketchy or shady things? [00:38:41] Are there any major shifts or trends in data collection? [00:41:07] Do you have any other success story just like with the HTI organization? [00:42:17] Where can people go to apply for the roles in Bright Data? [00:49:29] How can the benefits of open data be communicated to new audiences so that government data can be combined with Important privately owned data? [00:53:31] Would you think it would it would ever happen would ever be the case that we have something similar to GDPR? [00:54:00] Random Round [00:54:55] What do you want to be remembered for? [00:55:31] When do you think the first video to hit one trillion views on YouTube will happen? And what will that video be about? [00:56:27] So what's your favorite question to ask a candidate during a job interview and why? [00:57:42] In the data collection process and most of it is manually entered, the quality and consistency of this Data is poor. What are your thoughts? How can we improve this? [01:00:05] Strategic thinking, the teacher planning, strategic learning, which is most important for you and why? [01:01:36] What are you currently reading? [01:03:43] What's the story behind one of your scars? [01:04:04] What issue will you always speak your mind about? [01:04:26] Best piece of advice you've ever received? datascience #machinelearning #ai #data #analytics #dataanalytics #mlops #artificialintelligence community #mindset #philosophy #success https://www.instagram.com/theartistsofdatascience/ https://facebook.com/TheArtistsOfDataScience https://twitter.com/ArtistsOfData

In this episode, Sam and Alicen speak with Senior Legal Counsel of the Human Trafficking Institute, Lindsey Roberson. They discuss her career, the role of criminal prosecution in anti-trafficking efforts, and the importance of victim centered prosecution efforts. If you or someone you know is currently in danger of human trafficking, you can view the national human trafficking hotline website here. You can reach the hotline by calling 1-888-373-7888 or texting 233733.  Here, you can learn more about the Human Trafficking Institute, the Federal Human Trafficking Report, and the Douglass Fellowship.You can read more about Lindsey here.You can read the Safe Harbor law that Lindsey drafted here.Learn more about victim centered prosecution here.You can learn more about the process of prosecuting human trafficking with task forces here.You can learn more about working with survivors in our previous episode with Marie Martinez Israelite.You can learn about the HTI’s partner countries here.We would love to hear from you! You can reach us at samantha.franks@traffickinginstitute.org and alicen.rodolph@traffickinginstitute.org. Music: Blurry Vision by Corbyn Kites

Bab 1 Antara amal Hti dan amal jasmani, Bab 2 Kiat menghidupkan hati Bab 3 Hal-hal yang merusak hati

In today's podcast we travel to Tralee, and hear how the town has been revitalised by a communal coming together to protect its past.     Under the Historic Towns Initiative, a programme of investment to enhance Tralee's historic buildings was set in train. The Historic Towns Initiative which is run by the Heritage Council in partnership with the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage, promotes heritage-led regeneration in our historic towns. A number of bodies - ranging from Kerry County Council to the Irish Georgian Society - contributed to the project, along with significant community involvement including children from a local secondary school who painted a series of murals based on the built heritage of the town. The project involved the conservation repair of historic wrought iron railings at Day Place with all ten building owners coming together to embrace the project. Main contractor, Ned O'Shea & Sons, and Brendan St. John, a blacksmith carried out conservation repair of all railings at the front of a terrace of ten buildings, developed by Justice Robert Day, circa 1805.  In addition, funding provided under the HTI went towards the conservation of historic window joinery at 17 Denny Street (built circa 1825), which included conservation repair and refurbishment of surviving original sash windows. The street was laid out by Sir Edward Denny, a Tralee landlord, following demolition of Tralee Castle, which had been located in the heart of the town centre since the 1240s. In this episode we chat with Victoria McCarthy of Kerry County Council, blacksmith Brendan St.John and Eileen Nolan, the owner of 17 Denny Street. Enjoy the show! The Heritage Council: Website Facebook Instagram Twitter LinkedIn YouTube This podcast has been produced by Fuzion Communications.

Michael Seeber avrebbe dovuto diventare avvocato seguendo le orme di famiglia. Ma le circostanze della vita gli imposero un cambio di rotta e così negli Anni Settanta divenne imprenditore per necessità. Partì nel settore immobiliare. Poi all'inizio degli Anni Novanta acquisì la maggioranza di Leitner, l'antica azienda specializzata in impianti a fune, con sede a Vipiteno, il suo paese. Da allora prese il via il rilancio di Leitner attraverso un processo di acquisizioni nel segno della diversificazione delle attività. Oggi l'azienda fa parte del gruppo HTI che opera in tutto il mondo, fattura oltre un miliardo e conta 3.500 dipendenti. A raccontarci questa storia di famiglia e di impresa è Anton Seeber, attuale presidente del gruppo.

Today's guest is Andy Towne, Founding Partner & CEO of Hobbs & Towne Inc.Founded in 1997, Hobbs & Towne Inc. is an executive search and advisory service firm. Partnering with venture capital, private equity, and family office investors, as well as global companies, HTI manages retained executive searches for high-level business leaders and C-suite positions. The firm's advisory services include restructuring, interim management, and mergers, acquisitions and proprietary deal flow. HTI works across sustainability and climate technologies, primarily in energy, mobility, food, agriculture, and water. Over the last 20 years, they've placed over 2,500 leaders in more than 600 companies globally.With two decades of experience, Andy is a climate career veteran. He has witnessed the many iterations of cleantech over the years and is a fantastic guest. Andy explains what Hobbs & Towne Inc. does and how the recruiting firm has developed since its inception. He walks me through the similarities, differences, and evolution of the cleantech sector over his illustrious career. We also dive into advice Andy has for those looking to make a career transition. Whether you are a veteran reorienting your career towards climate or a newcomer finding your place in this massive industry, you won't want to miss this episode.Enjoy the show! You can find me on twitter @jjacobs22 or @mcjpod and email at info@myclimatejourney.co, where I encourage you to share your feedback on episodes and suggestions for future topics or guests.Episode recorded March 16th, 2021Advice Andy has for those looking to make a career transition:Educate yourself on the topic you are interested in pursuing in climateMeet as many people as you can, go to conferences (virtual), and develop an opinion on a sector or subjectGet on Twitter and follow climate leaders Want to get in touch with Andy? Reach out to him on twitter @HobbsTowne or via email atowne@hobbstowne.com

Dr. Erica Ramírez and Dr. Jonathan Calvillo revisit the Latinx voter outcomes they projected in a recent HTI podcast episode about the 2020 presidential election. With the national media attention focused on this diverse voting bloc—the so-called “sleeping giant"—the two sociologists examine some of the narratives spun by the news cycle. Looking at the complexity of what it means to be a U.S. Latino, including demographic breakdowns by state and religion, Dr. Ramírez and Dr. Calvillo delve into the factors that may help to explain why a third of Latina/os have consistently voted Republican since the Richard Nixon administration. “Everyone seems to agree that Latinos are not a monolith—that tends to be one of the big stories,” Dr. Calvillo notes. “Don’t get me wrong I’m glad that story is out. I’m glad that story is being promoted, but a part of me is concerned if that’s the biggest takeaway.” He hopes that we continue to ask deeper questions about the Latino vote. RELATED The Evangelical Latinx Voter and the Complexity of Collective Identity

Hizb ut-Tahrir berarti Liberation Party atau Partai Pembebasan. Disebutkan bahwa gerakan Hizbut Tahrir menitikberatkan pada perjuangan membangkitkan umat di seluruh dunia. Di Indonesia sendiri, HTI kerap dianggap bertentangan secara ideologis dengan Pancasila, yang menyebabkan organisasi ini resmi dibubarkan. Sementara, pihak-pihak lain menyorot pembubaran HTI yang disebut bertentangan dengan demokrasi yang seharusnya memberi ruang pada kebebasan berekspresi dan berorganisasi. Lalu, seperti apa sejarah organisasi yang telah bercokol di Indonesia sejak tahun 1980-an ini harus dimaknai?

This episode features special guest Steven Sawyer, Director of Sales and Marketing at HTI and board member of Pendleton Place. Podcast host and CEO of HTI, Herb Dew, leads a discussion about the laws we've covered so far.Support the show (https://www.htijobs.com/podcast)

Podcast host Herb Dew, CEO of HTI, continues his discussion with special guest Steven Sawyer. What kind of legacy will you leave?Support the show (https://www.htijobs.com/podcast)

Podcast host and CEO of HTI, Herb Dew, covers The Law of Sacrifice and which sacrifices are non-negotiable.Support the show (https://www.htijobs.com/podcast)

As we near the end of this season, Herb Dew, host and CEO of HTI discusses the Law of Timing and the Law of Explosive Growth. How are these laws related and how can you implement them in your business?Support the show (https://www.htijobs.com/podcast)

We have made it to the 17th Law in the 21 Laws of Leadership. This week Herb Dew, CEO of HTI and host of Seeds of Leadership, discusses the Law of Priorities. Dive into with us!Support the show (https://www.htijobs.com/podcast)

Herb Dew, CEO of HTI, continues his discussion of The 21 Laws of Leadership with the Law of the Big Mo.Support the show (https://www.htijobs.com/podcast)

Dr. John Butler and Axel Hombach talk about the upcoming classes the HTI, the Hypnotherapy Training International in London with a slightly different angle.

Have you ever wanted Xander Harris to be your dad? Liam Booker has. Have you ever wanted your girlfriend to prove to you that she’s a real lesbian? Well, that’s bad. Don’t do that one. Have you ever wanted to be monogamous with your boyfriend but you think gay people can’t do that? That’s not great either. Maybe stop getting advice from Faking It characters. Listen to this week’s HTI instead to hear Alix and Laney vent about biphobia, like, a lot. Twitter: @hottakingit Email: hottakingit@gmail.com

Dr. John Butler and Axel Hombach talk about the upcoming classes the HTI, the Hypnotherapy Training International in London. Dr. John Butler gives an overview about the courses themselves, what makes them unique, the content, the prices and the philosophy of HTI.

June 25, 2019 | HTI 2019 Book Prize Lecture, “What is a Good Day?” Speaker: Dr. Patrick B. Reyes, Director of Strategic Partnerships for Doctoral Initiatives, Forum for Theological Exploration Respondent: Dr. Onaje X.O. Woodbine, Assistant Professor of Philosophy and Religion, American University

In this episode of HTI radio, we talk about how to work from home and earn an income while still getting to be home with your family and have something of your own.

In this episode of HTI radio, we talk about how to work from home and earn an income while still getting to be home with your family and have something of your own.

From time to time some uncertainties arise in the hypnosis-community on what suggestions are. Some suggest that they are not so important, others have diverging perceptions. I'm discussing in this episode 9 with the research neurologist Dr. John Butler of the HTI in London, what suggestions are, and why they are so essential to hypnosis. Why hypnosis is impossible without suggestions and how careful we need to be when we use them.

Dr. Mary Jo Bulbrook, RN, CEMP/S/I, HTCP is a master teacher and practitioner in innovative programs worldwide. She is founder and director of Energy Medicine Partnerships and Akamai University’s Dean of Continuing Education and Dean of the Institute of CAM Studies on-line educational programs. Mary Jo is a mystic and spiritual/medical intuitive as well as founder of Transform Your Life through Energy Medicine (TYLEM). TYLEM™ is based on her distinguished 36+-year career as a university professor and clinical specialist in psychiatric mental health nursing where she blended Energy Therapies and academic training.  She has taught a range of health care professionals both energy therapies and psychotherapy during her career over the years throughout USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Peru, South Africa, and Chile. From 1974-1984, she was a key figure in the development of world-renowned family therapist Virginia Satir’s teaching organization, Avanta Network. Drawing on their twelve years together, elements from Virginia’s teachings and philosophy were integrated with Dr. Bulbrook’s holistic nursing theory “Healing From Within and Without”.  For 15 years Mary Jo facilitated the spread of Healing Touch worldwide while on the HTI board of directors as well as Energy Psychology board of ACEP and also Touch For Health Kinesiology Association board.  Humanitarian service is also a key component of her life’s work and dedication.

Dr. Mary Jo Bulbrook, RN, CEMP/S/I, HTCP is a master teacher and practitioner in innovative programs worldwide. She is founder and director of Energy Medicine Partnerships and Akamai University’s Dean of Continuing Education and Dean of the Institute of CAM Studies on-line educational programs. Mary Jo is a mystic and spiritual/medical intuitive as well as founder of Transform Your Life through Energy Medicine (TYLEM). TYLEM™ is based on her distinguished 36+-year career as a university professor and clinical specialist in psychiatric mental health nursing where she blended Energy Therapies and academic training.  She has taught a range of health care professionals both energy therapies and psychotherapy during her career over the years throughout USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Peru, South Africa, and Chile. From 1974-1984, she was a key figure in the development of world-renowned family therapist Virginia Satir’s teaching organization, Avanta Network. Drawing on their twelve years together, elements from Virginia’s teachings and philosophy were integrated with Dr. Bulbrook’s holistic nursing theory “Healing From Within and Without”.  For 15 years Mary Jo facilitated the spread of Healing Touch worldwide while on the HTI board of directors as well as Energy Psychology board of ACEP and also Touch For Health Kinesiology Association board.  Humanitarian service is also a key component of her life’s work and dedication.

In der vorliegenden Arbeit werden mit Methoden der zeitaufgelösten Absorptions- und Fluoreszenzspektroskopie im UV und sichtbaren Spektralbereich zwei in der Photochemie grundlegende Isomerisierungsreaktionen untersucht. Einerseits die perizyklische Ringöffnungsreaktion, andererseits die Z/E-Isomerisierung. Im ersten Teil der Arbeit wird gezeigt, dass die in der Literatur etablierten Mo- delle für die perizyklische Ringöffnungsreaktion von 2,2-Diphenyl-5,6-Benzo(2H)- Chromen nicht vollständig mit den Ergebnissen der zeitaufgelösten Messungen in Übereinstimmung zu bringen sind. Mit einer Kombination von Absorptions- und Emissionsmessungen an diesem Chromen werden Inkonsistenzen der bekannten Modelle aufgezeigt. In einem neuen Reaktionsmodell zur lichtinduzierten Ringöff- nung können diese vermieden werden. Auch ist das neue Modell in der Lage weitere experimentelle Beobachtungen zu erklären. Der zweite Teil der Arbeit zeigt transiente Absorptionsmessungen von unsubstitu- iertem Hemithioindigo (HTI). HTI eignet sich aufgrund seiner moderaten Größe und der lichtinduzierbaren, reversiblen Photoreaktion als Modellsystem für die Erstellung eines Reaktionsmodells zu der von Heteroatomen beeinflussten Z/E- Isomerisierung. Die vorgestellten Messungen bilden die Grundlage für moderne quantenchemische Rechnungen. Durch die Kombination aus Experiment und Theo- rie kann eine Ursache für die großen Unterschiede in der Isomerisierungszeit und Quantenausbeute zwischen Z→E und E→Z-Isomerisierung von HTI gefunden wer- den. Die Rechnungen deuten auf die Existenz eines nicht-reaktiven Zerfallskanals hin, welcher nur vom E-Isomer aus zugänglich ist, und über den ein Großteil der Population des angeregten Zustandes ultraschnell zurück in den Grundzustand ge- langt. Im letzten Teil wird die Isomerisierung einer HTI ω-Aminosäure im Peptidrück- grat eines kurzen linearen und eines langen zyklischen Peptids untersucht. Dabei zeigt sich, dass HTI auch in einem Peptidrückgrat seine Fähigkeit zu Isomerisie- rung behält. Die Zeitkonstante τ 1 , die eine Relaxation im S 1 in einen Zustand mit Ladungstrennungs Charakter (CTC) beschreibt, liegt bei den als Referenz dienen- den reinen Schaltermolekülen und den Chromopeptiden gleichermaßen zwischen 6-10 ps. Die Isomerisierung ist bei den Peptidproben im Vergleich zu den Schalter- molekülen deutlich verlangsamt. Bei dem zyklischen Peptid wurde nach 3 ns nicht das cw-Differenzspektrum des Chromophors erreicht. Somit ist von einer weite- ren Relaxation des HTI-Schalters und des verbundenen Peptids auf einer längeren Zeitskala auszugehen. Die zeitaufgelösten Absorptionsmessungen im Sichtbaren geben zusammen mit Untersuchungen ultraschneller IR-Spektroskopie detaillierte Informationen über die Strukturdynamiken in diesen Chromopeptiden.

What happened at NIFS '11? Which big stories electrified the show floor, and which after parties created other kinds of buzz? Did the new HTI make its hoped for big splash? And what caused Andy Pels to cancel his show visit this year after his last minute Twitter post that rocked the industry? Discover the answers to these and other questions as Rich Cavoto and Traveling Salesman provide complete show coverage (65:55). Also, show floor interviews with Vickie Lester, Bob Wegner, Jim Derry, Deb Douglas, Nancy Rich, Andy Graham, plus many others round out this all-star NIFS wrap up (50:42). Mike McNulty delivers industry headlines including comments from show manager, Susan Hurley (20:34). Plus, BB&T Capital Markets analyst, Holden Lewis, comments on industrial distribution conditions in light of the EU situation, and introduces the forthcoming Fastener Distributor's Index (36:54). As for the FTR boys, Brian wears just the right tie for the occasion while Eric pilfers coffee from the GOP. Run time: 01:51:02

What does the end of HTI portend for the fastener industry? How will the market be impacted now that its assets have been sold? Which recent trade event made the largest splash? FTR welcomes PFC executive vice president, Bob Porteous (58:50), and incognito industry blogger, Traveling Salesman (36:27), as they discuss these and other questions. Mike McNulty, of Fastener Technology International Magazine, presents the Fastener News Report and tells which categories of jobs are at greatest risk of elimination (17:02). Plus, the lovely and talented Lynn Dempsey interviews show attendees from the floor of the Branson show (28:41). Hosts Brian Musker and Eric Dudas invite listeners to Tweet more often, and ponder the true identity of a very familiar sounding voice. Run time: 01:31:31

Heads and Threads founding family member and former XL Screw CEO, Ron Sackheim, shares his story along with thoughts on the end of HTI (46:00). American Fastener Journal publisher, Mike McGuire, offers his comments as the Columbus Show ends its 30 year run (31:30). Mike McNulty presents the Fastener News Report, and gives analysis of the troubles in Detroit (12:05). Plus, a report from the site of the second Mel Kirsner Memorial Golf Tournament tells the story of another victory for a legendary west coast golf team (22:44). Hosts Brian Musker and Eric Dudas develop their legal parlance as they delve into the equestrian side of bankruptcy proceedings. Brian heads to Branson, leaving Eric to tend the server farm. Run time: 01:26:31

Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: On the academic side, you’re very limited by your work has to fit in the box of like a peer reviewed quantifiable research paper and in the commercial world, it needs to be commercializable in the next, you know, probably a year or two, maybe, maybe 3, but all the good ideas don’t fit in one of those two boxes. 00:00:27 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. We use the software for your iPad that helps you with ideation and problem solving. But this podcast isn’t about Muse the product, it’s about Muse the company, the small team behind it. I’m Adam Wiggins. I’m here today with my colleague, Mark McGranaghan. Mark, you reading anything good lately? 00:00:43 - Speaker 1: Yeah, just last night, I actually reread an ultra classic, you and your Research by Hamming, who’s a famous scientist, and it’s about how you build a really impactful research program over the course of your career, and I was inspired to reread it because it’s one of the chapters in the classic book, The Art and Science of Doing Engineering, which is about to be republished by Stripe Press. 00:01:05 - Speaker 2: Stripe Press is really on a tear these days. 00:01:09 - Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, highly recommended. 00:01:10 - Speaker 2: And also perhaps relevant to our topic today, and I’m happy to say that our topic today was requested by a listener. So Fetta Sanchez wrote in to ask us, how do you get into the HCI slash interaction slash new gestures research field. So probably we need to start at the top there. Maybe you want to tell us what HCI is. 00:01:32 - Speaker 1: Sure, so HCI stands for human-computer interaction, and this is things like the way humans interface with computers, and also the way they use computers as a tool in their lives, how they get things done, how they learn. To use them, how they accomplish their goals, things like that. 00:01:48 - Speaker 2: And I did a couple of years of a computer science undergraduate degree that I did not finish. And during that time, I really remember everything in the curriculum was algorithms, databases, compilers, maybe some network type of things. And I only learned about HCI as a field a couple of years ago. And to me it was a bit of a revelation because this concept of How the user interacts with the computer and that being a whole field of study. Well, I was very excited about, but stood for me in very stark contrast to the System the algorithms oriented computer science that I sort of knew from my brief time in academia. 00:02:29 - Speaker 1: Yeah, likewise, it was pretty new to me, and it’s a whole huge world, you know, there’s conferences and papers and many professors who’ve dedicated their entire careers to it. 00:02:37 - Speaker 2: It was fun for me to dive in and learn about that world a little bit, and you and I were both part of this independent research lab called Inot Switch. Uh, and through that process, we began publishing and then made some connections with folks in this field, and then you and I went to a conference called Kai last year that I think really kind of opened the door for us there. Maybe one thing that would be worth doing is um categorizing here a little bit. There’s Human-computer interaction as a branch of computer science in the academic tradition, that is say mostly done in universities, sort of the the pure sciences. Then there’s corporate R&D which is more associated with for profit businesses, but actually it’s where a lot of the HCI innovations that are maybe the most famous, uh, we think of places like Bell Labs or Xerox PARC, maybe today, Microsoft Research. And then there’s a small but growing space of called them independent computer science labs, independent HCI researchers, of which I think we we had some contact with. How would you define the difference between those three categories? 00:03:39 - Speaker 1: Yeah, well, like you said, the academic side is grounded in these research universities, and this is often directed by a professor or graduate students, and there the values are really around evidence, rigor, review, publication and communication, and creating knowledge over time, which is a whole thing we should talk about. And then on the industrial side, it’s often more integrative because you need to consider. Not only the the pure HTI elements, but the business elements and the hardware constraints and the how easy the thing is to learn for the user and practice and things like that. And then on the indie side, this is a smaller domain, but that’s tends to be more experimental, free form. People can bring their own wild ideas to it and just try stuff. So it’s a nice injector of new ideas. 00:04:22 - Speaker 2: One way we can maybe make this concrete is to describe the path from let’s say the lab to commercial product. And I’ve I’ve struggled to find full stories on this in many cases, I think this is something that happens behind closed doors a little bit, even though science does have open publishing, the exact story of how something went from basic research or early um HCI research to a product that’s in the hands of end users is not well understood or well or written down anywhere. Um, I think the Xerox PARC case is one that has a lot of um, Fame and certainly in the tech circles that we run in, there’s there’s some books about it. There, they invented things like the modern GUI, uh, as well as what you see is what you get word processing, and was really a pretty special place. And notably there was a branch of Xerox, the copier company, and they were looking for innovations. I think their theme was the Office of the Future. And they were looking for innovations around that and, and clearly, you know, this is the 1970s, they knew that would have to do with computers, personal computing was, didn’t really exist yet or was, you know, still just an emerging idea. So that’s one famous example. Uh, maybe more recently, you have something like Microsoft Research, and I think, you know, I don’t 100% know what the path is for some, you know, for example, interesting innovations that emerged from Microsoft, to what degree were those laboratory projects versus some other path. Uh, one that I find quite interesting is what we now on the Apple platform, we talk about face ID on the Apple platform we use face ID rather. And that uses stereoscopic cameras and infrared, and infrared camera, which gives you depth sensing, right? So this is why you can’t fool your iPad into unlocking by holding up a picture of your face, because it can actually sense the the shape of it. And that idea was first in Windows Hello, which sort of was the Microsoft implementation of facial recognition. And that in turn, the technology there, I think came from the Microsoft Kinect, which is actually a gaming. Device, um, and I’ve tried to like dig into the history on this. I don’t know if it came out of a Microsoft lab. I think it may have come out of some other independent place. So you often have these very winding paths where a promising technology like stereoscopic cameras emerges, but you’re still trying to figure out the application of it. And it’s actually quite a long distance between when these early researchers are doing the work, and it’s in the hands of consumers as a usable product. 00:07:00 - Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think honestly, that’s the best case that you have this long winding path, but it does eventually find its way into commercialization. I think one of the ideas we had originally behind the lab was these two domains are kind of spinning in circles. So it’s a lot of good ideas from the academic world that are getting stuck or don’t have the appropriate context from the commercial world, so they’re not transferring over. And on the flip side, the commercial world isn’t tapping into the academic tradition and the way that it should be. So you have a lot of like the, the Microsoft research and the, the Googles and so on, they do a lot of internal research. 00:07:36 - Speaker 1: Google X maybe is their, their internal lab, or they have a bunch of computer science just doing research on, you know, search and stuff like that, uh, some of which gets thrown out as papers and some of which doesn’t, but the kind of the classic path from uh academic labs through commercialization I hypothesize is actually weaker than it, it should be or could be and perhaps was in the, in the past. And one of our ideas with the lab was to help bridge that gap with something that was kind of in between with the with the so-called industrial research lab. 00:08:01 - Speaker 2: Actually, Google search is another case. It’s not an HCI thing, it’s more of an algorithms thing, but the founders of Google, they were doing academic research work at Stanford, if I’m not mistaken, came up with this page rank algorithm, which was a science paper published like any other. At some point, I’m not super knowledgeable about the story, but at some point they decided to turn that into a working prototype. They set up this search engine, they found it worked way better than anything else out there, and they realized they could spin that out into a commercial. Entity. And so those two individuals took it from that early lab work all the way through to a commercially viable product, but it takes pretty extraordinary individuals and probably extraordinary circumstances or at least serendipitous circumstances for that to happen. And so what you’re alluding to there with the the gap between The academic researchers who are exploring wild new ways we can interact with computers and commercial companies that can bring these to people in their everyday lives. Um, that’s, you know, in the Google case, these, these extraordinary individuals took it across that threshold, but what can we do to create more movement there? 00:09:12 - Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I think We’ll see as we get more into HCI specifically here, that the HCI domain isn’t as obviously susceptible to the academic tactics as other domains, so things like algorithms are very quantifiable, they’re very repeatable, they’re very discreet, and those are things that work well in the the traditional academic model of of measurement and confidence intervals and so on, whereas HCI is often much more multi-dimensional, maybe case based, maybe hard to quantify. 00:09:39 - Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I think how it feels is like a huge dimension of making interfaces, but that is something that is very hard for science to evaluate. Uh, it’s something that is more of a taste or judgment call, but then science is and should be about rigor and the academic tradition and fitting into these and and sometimes I think that does mean from what I’ve seen of the HCI field. Sometimes I read these papers where, I don’t know, one example was, um, I think it was also a Microsoft research project. They did an interesting thing where they rigged up some projectors where you could essentially put windows from your computer, uh, individual windows, whether it’s like a document app or something else up on the wall and they had projectors, so basically all the walls. We were 100% turned into these screens, but it was collaborative. So I could put up one window, and it’s not like, while I’m, you know, screen sharing, no one else can, someone else could put up their window and you had this shared space that was very spatial and that sort of thing. This sort of stuff was, was, you know, part of what was inspiring us and we were thinking about the new opportunity. But notably there. It’s a really interesting prototype, you can look at their video and look at what they’ve done and read the paper and think about how this might be applied in the real world, but they have to, it’s not enough to just build the thing and say, hey, we liked it or we didn’t like it, then you need to go and do some kind of quantifiable test. And they did a usability test or user test, which is as near as I could tell was just grabbing 7 random people that happened to be walking by in the office and having them use it for 2 minutes and then, you know, giving them a little survey and writing it down. And it seems like, OK, well, I guess that makes it science because you’re measuring a thing. But that’s not where we make great breakthrough new interfaces, but it’s very difficult because you just leave it to, well, did you like the thing you built? People always are attached to the things they built. They always like the thing they built. How do we, how do we measure that? That’s probably an unsolved problem a little bit for the academic side. 00:11:34 - Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. Thinking about things that do work well in this space, reflecting on my own journey. I started not so much with the HCI as like proposing a certain windowing system or a specific gesture model. I started more on the fundamental side. So we think about human computer interaction, you need to understand the human body, like biomechanics and things like that. You need to understand the human mind, like cognition, and then you need to understand the computer science fundamentals, things like the graphics pipeline. So I found it very useful to go and study those fundamentals, both within. And outside the HCI literature, and there again, that area is much more susceptible to traditional scientific methods, so it’s very good information. um, and then you really understand that the fundamentals, the ground truth. 00:12:21 - Speaker 2: You know, the point about humans and computers are equal participants in this. And I think there is a tendency for computer people to focus on the computer. Maybe one thing that HCI tries to do, or at least um some of the HCI teams that I’ve had chance to interact with, including this team out of UCSD that we met at this conference we went to, they try to have maybe a cognitive science person or behavioral sciences person on the team, and they are concerned more with that, how does the human mind work, how does our attention work? How does our how do our bodies work, and then, but you also have to connect that. Together with what’s possible with the technology, both in the moment and of course, also in the future where we think technology might go. And I think, you know, for example, VR AR stuff is maybe in some ways a hot or buzzy space or maybe was, maybe that’s died down a little bit. But if you go read a lot of research about that, you see that for example, one of the biggest problems with that is just a simple case of, OK, if you got these controllers, you’re waving around in the air as the main way you interact with it, your arms just get tired. And it’s, it’s like they, they’ve measured this, right? They, they put people in situations where they’re using these kinds of controllers for long lasting tasks and they see that after an hour, you got to take a rest and they’re they’re, they’ve tried lots of different things to try to make that to be able to let you do a full work day the way you would at a standard desktop computer or whatever, and they haven’t found a solution. And so if you’re coming in, if you’re a commercial company that’s coming in and wants to do something with this space, you probably want to read that literature and keep those, uh, keep that challenge, that unsolved problem in mind. Yeah, one place to fill in more of the picture on the academic side, for me, the big eye opener was going to, uh, the biggest conference in the space, which is Kai last year, you and I kind of spontaneously both decided to go. This is when we were still within the lab, but thinking about the use. Idea and that was a really great experience because we both got to meet a lot of the professors and researchers that were working in this space, got to see how many people were there. I, I don’t know, it was 2000, 3000 people, there’s hundreds of papers submitted, many, many tracks of talks, and then we saw all of these people who are working really hard at thinking big and thinking future facing about what, what computers can do for us and how we can interact with them. Some examples of just for fun, I pulled up my old notes, uh, had a very early version of Muse. Uh, back then, a prototype that I was working with, and I was able to dig that out of my, my archives, or dig the the Muse board exports out of my archives. Um, we had, for example, there was a talk on peripheral notifications, and this is where they’re basically testing, OK, so if you have a slack notification or an email notification or something pop up, and it’s on screen somewhere. What can we do to put it in your peripheral vision so that it won’t break your state of flow, or a better way to put it is just trying to understand what what kinds of sizes and colors and motions and shapes for a particular notification in a particular place in your field of view, how likely that is to get your attention. And then as a person who’s implementing something that wants to give a notification, you can go read this literature and they have this very extensive data set. And if you say, hey, I want something that’s absolutely certain to grab your attention, you should do it like this. If I want something that’s more a little bit of a note to the side, but I don’t want to distract you if you’re in the middle of something, maybe you should use this shape and this color and be in this space in your in your field of view. And there’s things there about keyboards and different ways to improve typing on mobile, there was lots of things about wall mounted displays. Uh, there was, um, Ken Hinckley’s group, uh, which has been a source of inspiration for us at use. They do a lot of stuff with tablets, particularly around the surface platform. They had one that was, I don’t know, they attached a bunch of extra sensors, they basically strapped a bunch of extra sensors onto a standard consumer tablet and they use that to detect, I think what they called like postures, so they could tell better the grip, like how you were holding the tablet at the time and then they can make the software behave differently. And clearly this is not something you can use in production. They, this is the equivalent of a raspberry pi taped onto the back and a bunch of sensors, you know, kind of hot glued on around the edges. This would never work in commercial environment, but it suggested some things you could do if such a capability. Existed and I think that that is a good example of what um what I think this field of this best does is it it it gives you possibilities to draw from and then it’s the applied people, what we would normally call just people building products that can potentially go and draw from that pool of ideas and that pool of things, finding things that have been learned and use them to make potentially new products that solve uh new problems or old problems in new ways. 00:17:07 - Speaker 1: Yeah, this experimental slash prototype approach is probably the thing that we um most think of when we think of HCI. Another type of work that I found very helpful is the ethnography, where you go and you understand how people actually work day to day and what’s worked for them and what hasn’t. Couple of examples there. One is a book called, I think it’s a small matter of programming or the simple matter of programming. This is a study of uh end user programming in the wild, things like Excel spreadsheets, CADS, and what actually works there, and because they talk to these people who are actually doing work every day and and having success or not in these environments, they’re able to pretty deeply understand what is useful in the way, in a way that you probably couldn’t get with either theorizing or experiments. 00:17:50 - Speaker 2: And I’ll just interject to say that one was a big inspiration for uh Hiroku. And it’s also a good indicator of how much the academic world is ahead of in a, in a strange way. We think of maybe in the startup world or the tech world or whatever, oh, we’re so on the cutting edge of things, but a small amount of programming was written in 1993, if I’m not mistaken. And this was 2006 or 2007 when I was reading this and and applying some of what it, um, some of the ideas that were in it went into Hiroku. And so at that point, the book was already 15 years old, but a lot of the research and understanding in it and ideas that suggested were still really bold, innovative, or just thought provoking, in a way that current technology and software products and certainly programming tools um had not taken advantage of or um learned from. 00:18:45 - Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the ideas that one tends to think of in HCI perhaps as as a supposedly novel interaction or approach has actually been tried before. I think it’s very important to understand that prior art, especially if it basically didn’t make it into the commercial world and like, why is that? Or else you’re liable to make the same mistakes again. Um, another example that I’m thinking of was the study. Of so-called folk practices with computer programs. This is like little habits or techniques that people have picked up to make themselves more productive with programs, and they found two examples. One is lightweight version control by making copies. So if you’re in, if you’re editing a photo and you want to, you know, have some quick version control. Uh, you might, uh, duplicate the item in your canvas, like in Figma, you know, make another copy of it, and then fiddle with the new version, and then you can kind of compare it to the old version, even if you don’t have like a, you know, get for Figma or whatever. Um, another one was this idea of everyone likes to have a little scratch space where you can like put, you know, your little clippings and bits and things you’re working on, and that was one of the inspirations for. the shelf in the original Muse prototype. 00:19:47 - Speaker 2: Another book we both read around that time was The Science of managing our digital stuff, and they had a lot of insights, again, things that I think we borrowed from a little bit from Muse, but because they come into it from this ethnographic or academic perspective, they just want to learn, they want to collect the data, they want to understand users. They’re not coming in with the point of view of like, we have a product we want to sell you or or just a uh A product we believe in and we’ve already bought into the mindset of, they just want to learn. And so one insight there was people who have been designing file systems, that is the way we store documents on our computers for decades have talked about the hierarchical file system, that is to say, folders that nest inside each other, uh, is no one thinks that way and hard drives get messy and no one wants that, maybe we want a tagging system, I think BOS had a version of that, um, maybe we want fast search or whatever. And these folks just did a bunch of studies of people including how they use Dropbox or Google Drive or their own hard drives or just the way they manage their files, and pretty reliably, people like putting files in folders. And they like pretty shallow hierarchies and they can remember where it is and it’s best for them if it’s only in one place. And you can sit there and talk about how that’s not the best solution or whatever, but they, they did a pretty broad survey and just saw this is what people want to do despite the existence of other ways of doing it and the other kinds of solutions, including search and tagging and so forth. At some point you have to acknowledge the reality of this is how humans behave, and even if we don’t like that behavior, we need to think about that when we build tools for them. 00:21:27 - Speaker 1: Yes, if you’re contemplating doing a search-based or tag-based information management system, please read this book. It’s, it’s super critical. 00:21:35 - Speaker 2: There’s an interesting tension there between, I think the academic world. is not only good at, but is science is essentially built on prior art and you’re building on what came before, right? Any paper that doesn’t start with a survey of other research that this is built on or related to or other people have tried similar things, and you’re you’re extending the tip of human knowledge, hopefully, by building on everything we already know. Um, and so for that reason, the academic world is very good at the the prior art thing. And maybe the startup world is all about, hey, I’m a 24 year old that doesn’t know anything and I’m totally naive, but I have this wild idea for a thing I want to build, and 99% of that at the time, that turns out to be an idea that a bunch of other people tried, it doesn’t work and fail for all the same reasons as everyone else does, but 1% of the time it turns out that some assumptions about the world have changed, and it is that naivety, it is that. Not looking at why people failed before that it allows you maybe to find an opportunity. So there is, there is a bit of attention there, but sometimes the um I’m very appreciative of the what people have thought about this, they studied it in depth, there’s a lot of prior art here, like look that up before you start building things, um, and I think that that would be advice I would give to my younger self, I think at a minimum. Alright, so that gives us a little bit of the landscape of of HCI. Now the next part of the question was, how do you actually get into this field? I think that’s kind of a tough one, so I’m gonna actually say that for the end. Uh, but in the meantime, there was a follow on question here and Fetta says, how do you forget or ignore current patterns and come up with new ones? You have some thoughts on that, Mark? 00:23:14 - Speaker 1: Yeah, I come back to this first principles idea of really understanding the basis for all of this, the biomechanics, the cognitive science, the computer science, and then understanding the Um, assumptions or lemmas, uh, of the current design paradigms. So, you know, for example, Uh, one thing we see with with phones is most apps are designed for only one finger to be used at a time, and it would be a mistake to translate that design constraint or design decisions over to a tablet, we think, but a lot of apps just kind of blindly do that do that because they’re both iOS and they’re both touch apps. Um, another example even more relevant to use is the pencil. A lot of the gesture space of tablet apps can’t assume that the user has a pencil because Apple and the various app developers just aren’t willing to make that assumption. Uh, with, with muse, we realized that was, uh, assumption that people were making and one that you could take the other side of. So we’ve basically said you really need a pencil to use muse and therefore we’re gonna have some of the functionality behind that, you know, that, that, that physical gesture. 00:24:15 - Speaker 2: Yeah, the status quo is a powerful force for all of us, and we, we tend to act on not quite habit, but this stack of assumptions about the world and what the right way to do something is. And here’s where I like to think in terms of maybe a spectrum between on one far extreme is the research thinking, the out of the box, wild ideas, weird ideas, when you go to one of these HCI conferences, this is what you see a lot of just Sometimes frankly pretty wacky mad scientist kind of stuff. Now, um, but actually there’s only certain times where that is appropriate and in fact, doing research is a place where that is appropriate. Typically, if you’re making a product that you expect people to use in the real world, it’s actually a bad thing to have weird out of the box ideas, particularly about basic interactions. You want the status quo, you want the known path, they usually called the best practice. And I’ve certainly run into this on. Teams where I don’t know, you’re building a basic e-commerce site or something like that, and there’s someone there that wants to do something fun and exciting and so they’re like, and so they say, why not, let’s try this wild idea, you know, instead of checking out like this, you you do this crazy thing and 99% of the time that’s just a bad idea. Please do it the way that other people do it. And this is one of the things that I think tends to make software so high quality in the Apple ecosystems, both Mac and then even more so on iOS is you have this pretty stringent set of, you know, they call it guidelines, but in many cases are just outright rules to get your app approved. They have this very extensive culture and set of principles and so forth in the human interface guidelines and in all the precedent with Apple apps and the wider ecosystem there. It’s all really good and it all hangs together and it works well and people know how to use it. And so most of the time you actually should do the boring, expected common known path thing. And it required, but it’s a shift in mindset, a fun one, but, but also takes some stretching of the brain, you challenge yourself a little bit to go into the research thinking mindset as both of us did, we went to to Ink & Switch. 00:26:29 - Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that’s an important point and a balance to strike. Another big source of inspiration for me has been the world of analog tools. We’ve been thinking about how to build good digital tools for maybe 50 years or so. We have a couple of 1000 years of explicit and implicit study of how to create analog work environments, so things like personal libraries, uh, studies, uh, workshops, artist studios, in some cases, there’s explicit treatises about how you organize one’s library, but there’s also just a huge amount of implicit and embedded knowledge in the patterns that we use every day and that people have kind of habitually used to organize, you know, say the library. So I like to look at the, the physical world and see, how can we just like, as a baseline, make it as good as that. So a simple example would be, if you use ink on a pen, it has zero latency. If you use ink on a really good tablet app, it might have 15 to 20 milliseconds, which is a lot. And if you use it on a bad tablet app, it might have 50 milliseconds. Um, so that’s a really basic example of how there’s a, there’s a simple bar to set. Uh, another one that I think about a lot is multitasking. So if you have a desk, and you have your main piece of work in front of you, and you have some notes to the side or uh up on the top of the table. It’s super fast and easy to multitask your attention, just like you kind of move your eyes or you move your neck and your eyes re refocus, maybe you lean into one side or the other, um, but it’s it’s super fast and lightweight. What you think about a typical iOS app, it’s like, you know, press next page, transition animation, spinner, loads, fonts come in, right? And so it’s it’s very discouraging to actually do this kind of multitasking work. 00:28:06 - Speaker 2: And maybe the flip side of that of taking physical world information practices, things from artist studios and offices, file folders. Scissors, rulers, pencils, desks, you do tend to get, especially the first time an analog process comes on to is digitized. So you think it’s something like desktop publishing going on to computers in the 1980s or yeah, word processors was taking what was a typewriter or a typesetter and moving that onto the screen, spreadsheets that were that way, um maybe PowerPoint, uh taking overhead transparencies, bringing onto the computer in the late 80s, early 90s. In all of these cases, they tend to be very literal. Like the first version of PowerPoint was a way to print out overhead print transparencies, and it wasn’t until much later that the idea of a slide deck that would be all digital and you would never need to print out and put on a projector, uh, showed up. And then often you when you look back at these first transliterations from the analog world to the screen, you see this thing where it’s, oh, isn’t this funny? You know, there’s the little, the little picture of the trash can and a little picture of the Um, you know, often very literal and kind of heavy handed and not taking advantage necessarily of what can be done in the new medium. Do you have a, I don’t know, a sense for the how we take the best parts and the things that work about the physical world, knowledge tools that we’ve been working with for so long and are so adapted to human needs, but not also get stuck in a weird rut of translating them directly so that we don’t get the benefits of the computer. 00:29:39 - Speaker 1: Yeah, I don’t think there’s a simple rule for that, but again, I come back to the fundamentals. A lot of the stuff is driven by the like the biomechanics or the cognitive structures of our mind, which isn’t going to change. So for example, we have a very realistic, deeply embedded expectation that when we like touch something and move our hands that it moves, and that I think is basically not going away, and it would be a mistake to think it’s going to go away. Uh, likewise, I think we have quite embedded cognitive arch. texts around both spatial memory and associative memory. I think those are basically baked in and they’re not going to go anywhere. 00:30:10 - Speaker 2: I guess that comes to mind because I feel like that tension or it’s not even the right word for the interleaving of try to draw the best parts of the physical world workspaces, but also really embrace this digital space and it’s part of the pitch, I guess, or the the value hypothesis for use as a product is that. We are going to take taking something you previously did with Post-it notes and your whiteboard and your notebook and some printouts of some screenshots that you scribble on that are on your desk, and moving them into this expensive and fragile computing device. That it will have new capabilities and new powers that you couldn’t get. And so getting bringing those best parts across, which is, for example, that yeah, you touch something and it moves right away and there’s this instantaneousness to it, and then you’re not like looking at spinners and loading screens and whatever, um, but also taking advantage of all the Um, incredible capabilities and the great depth of possibility that exists within once you move to the digital virtual workspace. 00:31:18 - Speaker 1: Yeah, one idea for an exercise here and this kind of gets into our next question would be just to try to understand and catalog the properties of these physical workspaces that are interesting. So for example, I have a desk here that I think is 6 ft by 3 ft. 00:31:32 - Speaker 2: For our non-American listeners, that’s probably about 2 m by 1.5. 00:31:38 - Speaker 1: Yes, thanks, Adam. So you have this desk and imagine it’s covered with like textbooks and notes and photo printouts at, you know, say 200 DPI. What’s the resolution of that? And if you do that exercise, you’ll see that it’s like massively bigger than even our most advanced displays, it’s not even close, and just being kind of aware of those basic fundamental properties of the physical world and how they might or might not be reflected in your app, I think is a good baseline. 00:32:02 - Speaker 2: So we mentioned academic HCI work, which tends to happen in universities and funded by grant money and the output is published papers, and then there’s corporate R&D which is divisions, separated divisions, but still departments within some large company that has a lot of cash, like a bell, or a Xerox or a Google to throw at potential new innovations, but there’s a third category that Or at least I hope it’s a category now, uh, that it’s much more rare, but I can switch falls into this, and that would be the independent research lab. And the hypothesis behind I and Switch was what if we take the corporate R&D lab, but we cut off the corporation. And this quickly leads you into how does this stuff get funded and our um. Our mutual friend, Ben Reinhard has a whole series of excellent articles about how innovation happens and particularly the different kinds of funding models that can happen and how it gets funded in turn leads into the incentives of the people doing it and there’s quite a, quite a rabbit hole there for those who are interested in it. But the concept behind it and switch was that we could get some grant money to do independent research. With the idea that it would generate called intellectual property. I don’t love that term, but basically, ideas that could potentially be commercialized and ideas with enough depth to them and research, and where we falsified ideas that were no go, and we had some really compelling ones. One of those turned out to be Muse, which we we went ahead and spun out to begin the commercialization project process. But there There are a few others that I know of that are independent labs. One is um Dynamicland, which is sort of Brett Victor’s effort to bring computing and programming in particular into a more spatial, a physical spatial environment, not just on a screen. And then another one that I know of is um maybe more in its nascent stages, but Andy Maze has done amazing work on mnemonic devices. And he’s, I think funding and stuff maybe started with Patreon and maybe led up to institutional funding kind of more of a kind of a, what’s the word for it, a nonprofit, more of a philanthropy type approach. But I think there’s no great answer for how independent research can get done, but I at least I hope that I could switch is an interesting example, if not role model for others that might want to see how they can push the frontiers forward in a particular space. 00:34:24 - Speaker 1: Yeah, that’s both the challenge and the promise of this third type of institution on the academic side, you’re very limited by your work has to fit in the box of like a peer reviewed quantifiable research paper and in the commercial world, it needs to be commercializable in the next, you know, probably a year or 2, maybe, maybe 3, but all the good ideas don’t fit in one of those two boxes. As hard as it is to collect them with this third organizational type, I think it’s worth trying. 00:34:47 - Speaker 2: It’s a great point. I think the time horizon is one of the key. Variables, let’s say that defines what I would call research for for anything, but certainly for human computer interaction, which is, um, I believe Xerox Park actually had an explicit time horizon of 10 years. Which is definitely way beyond what a commercial entity would normally do. Um, and I think, you know, basic science even has a longer time horizon than that sometimes. But yeah, when you look at maybe university labs, they’re thinking forward really, really far, um, maybe corporate R&D labs are thinking further than their commercial counterparts. And then if you talk about a startup, particularly something. combinator, you’ve got to build that MVP, get it to market, validate it, get customers. You can’t be building it on some shaky technology that one, you don’t know if it’ll work, and two might take many years of development yet to come to come to enough maturity that you can base something that people really want to build a product that people will depend on. 00:35:44 - Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also think you get a bit more wildcard energy in these independent orgs, you know, the, the academic institutions and the, the big commercial labs are just necessarily more constrained and structured, and you can have just more eccentric people doing stuff on the independent side, which sometimes leads you down weird dead ends, but sometimes you get really interesting results and it kind of injects a new idea into the mix. I’m actually we talked mostly about like independent research labs or research efforts. I also consider like indie creators, artists, tinkerers in this bucket too. One example that comes to mind is that the video game Braid, which is this amazing like time traveling based game where the time traveling is like very smooth and scrubbed frame by frame. Um, that’s actually been something of an inspiration for me thinking about like version control and time travel for productivity tools. 00:36:33 - Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that’s Jonathan Blow, and he also went on to make. Other like category breaking games, uh, trying to remember the name of it, there was a puzzle game that was actually really nice on the the iPad that I played with my girlfriend at the time. And then if I’m not mistaken now, he’s working on inventing a new programming language. So yeah, so that the, uh, maybe it just takes a certain mindset, a desire to perhaps even a um a drive to think outside the box and do weird stuff. And yeah, I certainly agree that Labs depend on weird, wild, I think I saw the word maverick used quite a bit when describing um there’s this book called Dealers of Lightning, which I think covers, covers Xerox Park and and kind of those glory days pretty well, and it talks about, yeah, there are these, I don’t know, kind of long hair types and, you know, don’t wear shoes in the office and of course those aren’t the qualities that make them good researchers, but it’s connected to this. Maybe desire to do a weird thing to not conform to try stuff at the fringes, to be actually fascinated by things that are at the fringes, as opposed to, this is weird, who cares? I want to work on something more mainstream, let’s say, um, and not to say that that’s a better or worse approach to bring to your work, uh, just that it, it fits in a different space in the innovation cycle. Well, maybe that brings us around to the core of the original question, how do you get into this field? 00:38:04 - Speaker 1: Yeah, and I, I feel like there might be two different questions embedded there. One is maybe how do you participate or contribute or even just kind of find, find out what’s going on, uh, and the other is how do you make a living doing it. And, uh, I, I think making a living doing it is, is harder, but it’s maybe simpler to answer. There, there are two main paths right now. There’s the academic path and there’s the corporate path. Um, the academic path you you basically you go to graduate school and you get a PhD. Uh, but even after that, it’s, it’s quite challenging just because it’s so competitive in the corporate path, you become a practitioner and you, you do good, you know, engineering or product work and eventually you can enter this more researching ladder. But I’m not sure we have that much to contribute on that front because neither you or I have gone down those paths, maybe more of the how do you engage with the community where we should focus here. 00:38:43 - Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Well then, you teed up really nicely. How should we engage with the community? 00:38:49 - Speaker 1: Well, step here I would say is start digging into the literature, you know, it sounds obvious, but I think a lot of people haven’t done this either they don’t realize it’s there or they’re intimidated by it. Um, but this reminds me of Rich Hickey’s classic talk, hammock driven development. He’s like, if you’re working on something like you. I think you need a hash function that does X going to Google Scholar type hash function that does X enter and see what comes up. Like there’s almost certainly going to be something there. 00:39:12 - Speaker 2: Well, maybe there’s a great chance to talk about something again. I coming purely from the what what academics would call the industrial side, uh, yeah, working in companies that build products that they sell to people. That’s what I did my whole career. And so things like the fact that all this academic work tends to be published as PDFs in a particular format, there’s a lot tech to formatted to column PDFs, they have a particular style of writing, they have this particular style of citations, you typically, they’re not always open access, but when they are, they’re PDF on a web page, and the search engine for them is something like Google Scholar. I I actually didn’t know that. I didn’t know how to go find those things. And so as a Let’s say as a product developer, designer or engineer, I knew how to Google for stuff. I know how to find stack overflow. I read medium pieces, I read people’s blogs, I follow other folks in my field on Twitter, but the academic world of things was sort of a dark, yeah, was dark to me, except for on occasion, I would stumble across a book like the one you mentioned earlier, a small matter of programming. And I feel like I discovered this incredible trove of knowledge from someone that came at the the problem space from a very different perspective. And I think it also goes the other way, not as much, but I think academics are less likely to read the medium think piece posted by the product designer, the engineer, and basically the two, I think the two communities, if that’s the right way to put it. Uh, have different communications conventions and different ways that they share knowledge with each other and different systems for evaluating. Uh, importance and so on. So it’s very hard to, um, if you’re, if you’re steeped in one, it’s hard to cross the world into the other. So maybe that comes to all right, you find some hooks into this, you can follow some people, whether it’s on Twitter, whether it’s through their personal blogs, you can start to find some papers and Google Scholar on the topic, you can find some slack communities maybe that talk about this stuff and you can try to get hooked into it and and. Again, if you’re someone that comes from more the practitioner side, we might say, engineering products, design, uh and you haven’t been exposed to the academic side, going and and exposing yourself to that is a very good idea and maybe vice versa. 00:41:30 - Speaker 1: Yeah, and one other thing I would emphasize there is that you can do this citation crawling practice where you find a paper that you’re interested in, you can go look at the, the references, and this will refer to a bunch of other papers and sometimes books and in HCI it’s mostly papers, there are a few books, and then you can type those titles into Google Scholar and follow them that way. And a good way to kind of know if you’re getting your hand around the literature is if. When you read a new paper and like you basically recognize most of the citations or they’re kind of off the edge of your um your map in terms of your area of interest. So you’ve kind of identified the full graph of relevant papers and then you’re, you have a good handle on the literature. 00:42:05 - Speaker 2: And I think this is something that’s very much you learn this in the academic tradition, which is if you want to advance the state of the art in a field, first you need to know all the things that humans already know. And you do that by consuming all the literature, and you know when you’ve consumed all the literature exactly the way you described, kind of a crawling process, which is you start with a few seminal papers or you start with a few that are your starting point and you follow all the citations until you get to the edges of it and you feel like, OK, I’ve filled in this space now I know. in some kind of um general sense, what humanity knows about the subject. And now if I am, if I have novel ideas or I want to do new research or I see open questions that stand on top of this, now I can go do that in order to potentially contribute to this. 00:42:52 - Speaker 1: Yeah, and then speaking of taking that next step, it can be intimidating, certainly if you want to jump all the way to publishing in a peer reviewed journal, but I think you can take more incremental steps. One example that comes to mind is Dan Lew’s work on latency in computer systems. Uh, he did a series of measurements and experiments to assess uh the different latencies like from your keyboard. Your monitor for when you move your mouse to something happening, and uh but he was able to publish this on his personal website, and it’s not an academic peer reviewed paper, but it’s, that work has been quite influential, and you can indeed reach the kind of the caliber of academic work, even if you’re not participating in that full pipeline. 00:43:29 - Speaker 2: I’ll note that um work, and if I recall correctly, it’s published on kind of a really basic HTML page with very limited formatting and and whatever feels very um homegrown and authentic. But one of the things he does that’s so compelling is he says, he starts with this hunch, which is computer seems slower than I remember when I was younger, but then he goes to, you know, maybe the way if you don’t come at it from that scientific rigor position, you might go, you know, computers seems slower. I’m gonna like make some snap judgments. And then I’m going to go write a blog post and complain about it. But what he did was say, well, are they actually slower? And he got a, I don’t know, some kind of high speed camera set up and set that up and pointed it at the keyboard and the screen, and he recorded himself pushing a key, and then you can see on the camera when it appears on the screen, and then he, he wrote down exactly to the millisecond and he did that with a whole bunch of different devices, including some computers dating back to the 80s and then he put them all on the table and sorted them in order. And that’s a simple. Application of the scientific method to in this case, a very literal human computer interaction. How long does it take when I press a key when it appears on the screen? And that doesn’t say how long it should take or what would feel right, but you can put now real numbers to this intuition that maybe computers are more sluggish than they were at a different time. 00:44:55 - Speaker 1: Yep, exactly. And then if you are looking to take that step towards uh participating in these peer reviewed journals, a possibility that we’ve had some success with is collaborating with an established academic in the space. Um, Adam, you’ve kind of spearheaded our collaboration with Martin, maybe you want to describe that. 00:45:12 - Speaker 2: Right, well, we were lucky enough to get to work with Martin Klepman, who’s a one of the world’s experts on, say data and data synchronization, particularly around another track of research we had in the the lab around um what we eventually called local first. And he is someone who was in the indust, let’s say the industry world, he was doing startups and at some point felt that he can contribute more to the industry or the world by jumping over to the academic world to do more basic research around algorithms having to do with um synch data synchronization. And so we were lucky enough to get the chance to work with him within the context of the you can switch lab on a kind of a light part-time basis. And that led pretty naturally to, OK, well, we want to write a piece and publish it. And he wanted to publish some of his findings and he said, hey, you know, I think this could go into the academic format. And I said, well, Well, how does that work? He’s like, well, basically we take this web page we wrote, we put it into a lot of tech, we change some of the wording to remove, make it less emotional, uh, we changed the links into the citations where that makes sense, and we, we had a whole process to make it into something fits this format that’s expected by the academic world, and then we submitted it to a conference, uh, where it was accepted and eventually I actually ended up going to present it for. Um, various travel logistics reasons. Um, but yeah, that was a very interesting experience because the four authors on the page, uh, the paper, I think you and Peter maybe both have a good bit of academic experience, although I don’t know if you’ve published that way before. Martin is extremely good at that stuff, and then I knew very little about that world, but working with someone that knows all the ins and outs of it was a very um rewarding way to to learn about it. 00:46:58 - Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And to be clear, we didn’t just jump right to that, you know, a collaboration with one of the world’s leaders in synchronization technologies. There’s a little bit of a. 00:47:09 - Speaker 2: Yeah, don’t email Martin and ask him whether he’ll write a paper with you, he doesn’t know who you are. That’s not what I’m advocating for. 00:47:15 - Speaker 1: There’s there’s a bit of a proof of work function here where if you do some of your independent research in the space, and especially if you publish something that’s coherent and compelling, it becomes much more. You know, reasonable to establish a collaboration. Actually, when we did some of our publications around Muse and our latency measurement work, we had a few academics reach out to us and you know, say that’s interesting, maybe we should, you know, do some work together. I don’t think we’ve brought any of those yet to the point of writing a paper together, but it just shows that once you have some, some work out in the world that shows that you’re serious, that you’re engaging somewhat in the academic tradition that you’re aware of the literature, that you have contributions, um, it becomes a more feasible to have those collaborations. 00:47:54 - Speaker 2: Yeah, perhaps like any other intellectual or maker or tradition, this is a world or a community or a society that thrives on seeing what else you’ve done, and if you see that someone has done great work that overlaps with work you’re interested in, and that creates opportunity to connect, to learn from each other and then maybe lead to, can lead to collaborations. And yeah, maybe it’s not such a huge leap from do a weekend hack project and write up your learnings about it to eventually doing something a little more deeper and a little more serious that brings you in the direction of um the academic recognized academic world. Well, it’s interesting to note then that In doing the research lab, we came to it not from the perspective of how do we become a part of HCI, but rather we just wanted to see computers and computing interfaces get better uh in in some particular ways that led us to doing maybe some interesting experiments that led to some novel research that we we published about, and that in many ways opened the door to us to be more connected to this larger academic field. Is that something that a path you would recommend for others? 00:49:05 - Speaker 1: Yeah, there are certainly interesting paths there, you know, there’s this independent research lab path, and of course, there’s the academic and commercial path, and I think those are all interesting. I would also say though that being a scientist or being an innovator isn’t a hat that you’re granted by some external institution. It’s a way of thinking, it’s a way of navigating the world. You know, a scientific method is something anyone can use. Publishing is something anyone can do. Everyone can read the literature. So if you’re interested in this, I don’t feel like you’re, you’re stuck because you don’t have some credential like a PhD. Anyone can step into this world, go on to Google Scholar and read literature, and then maybe you have something to contribute on top of that. 00:49:40 - Speaker 2: It’s hard to think of a better place to leave it there. If any of our listeners out there have feedback, feel free to reach out to us at @museapphq on Twitter or hello at museApp.com by email. We’d love to hear your comments and ideas for future episodes, and big thank you to Fetta for giving us this very uh intriguing and deep topic to explore. I’ll catch you next time, Mark. 00:50:04 - Speaker 1: Great, thanks, Adam.