Talent Talks Podcast

On this episode, Ben Farrell MBE, discusses his journey from a 23-year military career to becoming the CEO of CIPS. He shares insights on leadership, the importance of emotional intelligence, and the challenges and opportunities in the procurement profession. Ben emphasises the need for CIPS to evolve and better represent procurement professionals globally, while also highlighting the importance of creating a supportive environment for career development in procurement. They explore the challenges and opportunities facing procurement professionals today, particularly in the context of global supply chains and the integration of AI. Additionally, the conversation touches on Ben's involvement with the Invictus Games Foundation.Some of the key moments during this podcast include:Ben Farrell joined CIPS to drive change in procurement.Human emotion plays a crucial role in leadership effectiveness.Transitioning from military to civilian life can be challenging but rewarding.CIPS has the potential to be a global leader in procurement.Ben aims to make CIPS more inclusive and relevant to all stages of a procurement career.The future of procurement requires adapting to changing global dynamics. Marketing the procurement profession is crucial for attracting new talent.Procurement must shift from a process-oriented mindset to a strategic one.Global supply chains require resilience and adaptability in the face of disruptions.The Invictus Games Foundation supports the recovery of wounded servicemen and women.Talent in procurement is about finding the right fit for individuals.Continuous improvement is essential for professional bodies to remain relevant.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Ben Farrell01:15 Early Career and Military Background04:37 Leadership Lessons from the Army08:00 Transitioning from Military to Civilian Life12:17 Experiences at John Lewis15:33 Becoming CEO of CIPS18:40 Global Perspectives on Procurement20:17 Challenges and Opportunities for CIPS25:26 Marketing the Procurement Profession30:11 The Future of Procurement34:22 Navigating Challenges in Procurement38:50 Global Supply Chains43:01 Invictus Games Foundation45:58 Defining Talent in Procurement

In this episode, Martin Smith interviews Richard Evans, Executive Commercial Director for NHS Supply Chain. Richard shares valuable insights from his extensive career in procurement, discussing his transition from consultancy to the NHS, the importance of purpose in his work, and the challenges faced by the NHS Supply Chain. He emphasises the need for collaboration, effective team management, and the evolving landscape of procurement, particularly in the healthcare sector. Richard also reflects on his career and the skills he values in procurement talent, concluding with quickfire questions about his inspirations and views on the future of procurement.TakeawaysCollaboration and people management are key to successful procurement.Integrating previously separate organisations into one cohesive unit has been a challenge for the NHS Supply Chain.Value-based procurement is essential for improving patient outcomes.Richard advocates for a people-first approach in leadership.Adaptability and agility are crucial in the ever-changing landscape of healthcare.The future of procurement is pivotal, with a focus on innovation and technology.Chapters00:00 Introduction02:55 From Consultancy to NHS Supply Chain05:49 Purpose in Procurement09:10 Challenges in NHS Supply Chain12:05 Team Management15:02 Change in the NHS17:52 Qualities in Procurement Talent21:13 Future of Procurement24:02 Reflections on Career26:47 Quickfire Questions

On this episode, Fraser McBeth, Procurement Director at Volta Trucks, shares his journey from working in established OEMs to leading procurement in a startup environment. He discusses the unique challenges faced during the transition, particularly during the company's bankruptcy, and how he navigated these difficult times while maintaining team morale and supplier relationships. Fraser emphasises the importance of building a high-performance culture, adapting to technological changes, and fostering open communication within the team. He reflects on the lessons learned throughout this journey and offers insights for others considering a similar path in the startup world.TakeawaysStartups require a different mindset and approach than established companies.Navigating cash flow is crucial in a startup environment.Building strong supplier relationships can provide access to valuable technology.Creating a high-performance culture involves continuous improvement and engagement.Transparency with the team fosters trust and resilience.Adapting to technological advancements is necessary for competitiveness.Flexibility in work arrangements can enhance talent acquisition.Leadership during tough times requires a balance of support and accountability.Learning from experiences in a startup can shape future career paths. Chapters00:00 Introduction to Volta Trucks02:46 From OEM to Startup06:08 Bankruptcy11:51 Leadership in Crisis17:57 Building a High-Performance Culture24:00 Supplier Relationships30:07 Reflection and Future Outlook

On this episode of Talent Talks, Samuel De Frates, Kathryn Thompson and Bilal Shaykh discuss the transformative role of AI in procurement, exploring its potential to enhance supplier selection, risk management, and overall efficiency. They delve into the challenges faced by procurement professionals, the risks associated with AI implementation, and the importance of addressing resistance to change. The conversation also highlights the evolving skills required for procurement professionals in the age of AI and the future trends that will shape the industry.TakeawaysAI can significantly improve supplier selection and risk management.Using AI as a co-pilot rather than an autonomous decision maker is crucial.Automating simple tasks can free up resources for more complex challenges.Choosing the right technology to implement is critical for success.Fixing basic processes is necessary before adopting new technologies.Talent and skills gaps are major impediments to AI adoption in procurement.The future of procurement will heavily rely on AI technologies.Procurement professionals need to focus on relationship management.AI will enable procurement to concentrate on value creation rather than mundane tasks.Chapters00:00 AI's Impact on Procurement02:52 Challenges in Procurement06:06 Risks of AI Implementation08:56 Navigating Change in Procurement12:12 Future Trends in AI and Procurement15:00 Skills and Competencies for the Future17:49 The Evolving Role of Procurement Professionals21:01 Conclusion

On this episode, Martin Smith interviews John Butcher, the Procurement Director at Just Eat Takeaway. John shares his journey of building a procurement team from scratch, the challenges he faced, and the importance of hiring the right talent. He discusses the evolving procurement landscape, the importance of emotional intelligence, and the impact of technology, particularly AI, on the industry. John emphasises the need for agility in procurement and offers valuable insights for aspiring leaders in the field.TakeawaysBuilding a procurement team requires a blend of internal and external talent.Cultural fit and attitude are crucial in talent acquisition.Procurement can add value beyond just cost savings.Emotional intelligence is becoming increasingly important in procurement roles.Delegation is essential for effective leadership.Technology, including AI, is transforming the procurement landscape.Continuous learning and adaptation are necessary for success in procurement.Leadership involves pushing boundaries and extending influence.Chapters00:00 Building a Team from Scratch09:46 The Importance of Talent19:59 Procurement in 202423:52 Leadership Insights

In this episode, Martin Smith interviews Canberk Incekara, Head of Indirect Procurement at OCS.Canberk shares his extensive experience in procurement and supply chains, discussing the evolution of the industry, the importance of understanding the end-to-end value chain, and the challenges of navigating external factors like COVID and Brexit. He emphasises the need for a balance between globalisation and local support, the significance of soft skills in talent management, and the changing expectations of the new generation in the workforce. The conversation also touches on cultural adaptability in negotiations, with Canberk discussing the differences between Turkey and the UK. He also discusses the importance of retaining talent through job satisfaction and growth opportunities. Takeaways · Canberk's journey reflects the interconnectedness of procurement and supply chain.· Understanding the total cost of ownership is crucial in procurement.· COVID and Brexit have reshaped procurement strategies.· Supporting local businesses is essential in a globalised market.· Procurement is evolving into a more strategic function.· Cultural adaptability is key in international negotiations.· Soft skills are increasingly important in talent management.· Retention challenges stem from new generation expectations.· Transferable skills in procurement can apply across industries.· Agility in approach is necessary for success in procurement.Chapters 00:00 Journey Through Procurement and Supply Chain02:23 End-to-End Value Chains04:42 External Factors in Supply Chain06:00 Globalisation and Local Support09:09 The Evolution of Procurement12:52 Cultural Adaptability16:17 Talent in Procurement19:30 Retention Challenges22:08 Transferable Skills23:34 Quickfire Questions 

On this episode of the Talent Talks Podcast, Martin sits down with Nikki Wright, Director of Operations at 10X Banking, as she shares her extensive experience in procurement and operations across various industries, particularly in the banking sector.  She discusses the complexities of navigating procurement within a heavily regulated environment, the balance between compliance and agility, and the evolution of procurement roles.  Nikki emphasises the importance of diversity, soft skills, and the need to rebrand procurement to overcome negative perceptions.  She also highlights the commitment of 10X Banking to sustainability and its status as a B Corp certified organisation.  The discussion also touches on the evolving landscape of procurement, the impact of inflation on supplier relationships, and the necessity of digitalisation in procurement processes.  Nikki shares personal insights about her career journey, inspirations, and the importance of taking ownership of one's career path. TakeawaysProcurement often involves navigating complex regulations, especially in finance.Procurement roles are evolving to include more operational responsibilities.Diversity in procurement is improving but still has a long way to go.Soft skills are essential for success in procurement roles.There is a need to change the negative perception of procurement.Procurement functions as a bridge between the company and suppliers.10X Banking is committed to sustainability and is B Corp certified.Job titles in procurement need consistency to attract diverse talent. B Corp accreditation is crucial for demonstrating commitment to ESG.The decisions we make today impact future generations.Change in large organisations is often slow and challenging.Risk mitigation is essential in today's supply chain management.Digitalisation is necessary for effective procurement decision-making.Career ownership is key to professional growth. Chapters 00:00 Introduction02:48 Procurement in the Banking Sector06:13 Compliance in Procurement09:06 Procurement Roles12:12 Diversity14:54 Soft Skills18:09 Negative Perceptions20:52 Sustainability23:48 B Corp Accreditation27:04 Financial Sector30:18 Challenges in ESG34:27 Procurement Challenges40:05 Personal Inspirations and Career Reflections 

In this episode, Martin Smith interviews Carl Ferrand, Head of Procurement at Specsavers. Carl shares his journey into procurement, emphasising the importance of people in leadership and the need to stand out when applying for positions.He discusses the evolution of procurement, highlighting the increasing responsibilities and skills required in the field, and offers valuable advice for aspiring procurement leaders, encouraging curiosity and consistency in their careers. The conversation also touches on the role of LinkedIn in professional identity and community building within procurement.TakeawaysCarl Ferrand's journey into procurement was a conscious choice.Leadership in procurement should focus on people and their well-being.The evolution of procurement has led to increased responsibilities and skills.Aspiring leaders should embrace curiosity and enjoy their work.Building relationships is crucial for success in procurement.Consistency in performance is key to career advancement.LinkedIn serves as a valuable platform for community and professional growth.Taking time for self-care can enhance productivity and mental health.Saying yes to opportunities can lead to personal and professional opportunities.Chapters00:00 Introduction08:32 Leadership Philosophy11:47 Resilience in Procurement20:48 Evolution of Procurement25:37 Advice for Aspiring Leaders36:19 LinkedIn 

On this episode of the Talent Talks Podcast, Martin talks to Jonathan Wharfe, Director of Procurement and Commercial Operations at Transport for London.Jonathan shares insights from his extensive career in procurement. He emphasises the importance of building communities, listening to stakeholders and fostering a culture of trust and collaboration. Jonathan discusses the evolution of procurement practices, the impact of AI and the need to address geopolitical challenges. He also highlights the significance of talent management and the necessity of changing the narrative around procurement to attract new talent. Takeaways ·       Listening is crucial for building trust in teams.·      Culture should be developed collaboratively with teams.·      Dyslexia can be a unique advantage in problem-solving.·      AI will enhance procurement processes and decision-making.·       Procurement must adapt to geopolitical challenges.·       The narrative around procurement needs to be improved.·      Mentorship plays a vital role in career development.Chapters00:00 Building Communities in Procurement02:53 The Importance of Listening06:12 Cultural Transformation08:56 Career Transitions and Mentorship12:12 The Evolution of Procurement Practices14:56 AI17:48 Geopolitical Challenges in Procurement21:08 Talent in Procurement24:01 Changing the Narrative26:48 Advice for Aspiring CPOs

On this episode of the Talent Talks Podcast, Martin speaks with Suzanna Hinnell, Operations and Marketing Director at 4C Associates, about B Corp and its impact on sustainable business practices. They discuss the certification process, the importance of ethical business, and how B Corp helps attract talent and engage clients.Suzanna shares her personal passion for sustainability and how businesses can implement sustainable practices to help create a better future.The Key Areas of Conversation in this Podcast Episode with Suzanna Hinnell were;+ B Corp certification focuses on sustainable and responsible business practices.+ 4C Associates aims to be a force for good in the consultancy space.+ The certification process requires significant documentation and policy implementation.+ Sustainable travel practices are essential for reducing carbon footprints in consultancy.+ Engaging employees in sustainability initiatives enhances team cohesion.+ B Corp certification helps attract talent who are passionate about sustainability.+ B Corp certification provides a framework for ethical decision-making.+ The future of B Corp may depend on evolving legislation and societal expectations.Chapters00:00 - Introduction to B Corp02:49 - The Importance of B Corp06:05 - B Corp Certification Process08:50 - Sustainable Travel Practices12:10 - Sustainability and Ethics15:02 - Attracting Talent with B Corp17:52 - Competition in Consultancy21:08 - Client Engagement in Consultancy24:04 - Challenges and Opportunities of B Corp Certification26:56 - Future of B Corp

In this special episode of the Talent Talks podcast, we have a new host, Warren Munson, founder of Evolve and The Evolve to Succeed Podcast interview our normal host Martin Smith, about his journey as an entrepreneur and running a recruitment group of businesses. Martin shares his early experiences in recruitment, the challenges he faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the growth of his company, Talent Drive. He discusses his aspirations to be a market disruptor and his passion for the procurement community. Martin also talks about the expansion of Talent Drive into the accountancy and finance sector with the launch of Talent Finance. He reflects on the growth and success of Talent Drive over the past four years. He emphasises the importance of focusing on the quality of people and building a trusted and valued team. Martin discusses the future of the recruitment industry, highlighting the need for adaptability to technology and the rise of ESG and sustainability. He also shares insights on fostering a positive culture and transparent communication within a remote business. He envisions the future of Talent Drive as a growing international presence with a focus on diversification and a one-stop-shop service offering.Here are the key takeaways from this episode of the Talent Talks Podcast:Starting a recruitment business can be challenging, but with perseverance and a competitive spirit, it is possible to succeed.During the COVID-19 pandemic, Talent Drive faced significant challenges, but by pivoting their approach and doubling down on marketing, they were able to overcome the obstacles.Talent Drive aims to be a market disruptor in the recruitment sector by focusing on building relationships, providing thought leadership, and championing the procurement community.The expansion of Talent Drive into the accountancy and finance sector with Talent Finance allows the company to diversify its revenue stream and better serve clients in the procurement community. Focus on the quality of people and building a trusted and valued team.Foster a positive culture through trust, transparency, and open communication.Chapters00:00 - The Journey of an Entrepreneur10:02 - The Itch to Start Something Myself19:15 - Scary, Exciting, and Fun: Early Days of Talent Drive23:24 - Being a Market Disruptor: Building Relationships and Providing Thought Leadership25:49 - Expanding into New Horizons: Talent Drive's Venture into Accountancy and Finance26:18 - Building a Trusted and Valued Team27:47 - Opportunities and Potential in Finance29:41 - Shifting Focus from Numbers to Quality of People30:05 - Creating a Great Business that Serves Customers33:26 - Balancing Work and Personal Life35:24 - Being Present and Grounded37:17 - Thriving in the Recruitment Industry41:37 - Adapting to Technology in Procurement42:59 - Emotional Intelligence in Recruitment43:56 - Fostering a Positive Culture in a Remote Business48:42 - The Future of Talent Drive: International Expansion and Diversification50:58 - Defining Success: Working with People Who Want to Work with You 

In this episode Martin Smith interviews Emir Allen, the Managing Director of Talent Finance. They discuss Emir's background in the accountancy and finance world, the challenges and opportunities in the profession and the current landscape of the market. They also touch on the importance of embracing technology and focusing on value-add, as well as the role of ESG in business. Emir provides advice for hiring managers and shares the plans for Talent Finance in 2024.Takeaways●      The accountancy and finance profession offers both challenges and opportunities in the current market.●      Embracing technology, such as automation and AI, can improve efficiency and effectiveness in the industry.●      ESG should be a vital part of businesses, attracting investors and employees.●      Hiring managers should prioritize the hiring process, assess gaps in their teams and prioritise attitude over technical ability.●      Talent Finance plans to partner with clients in the finance landscape to support their needs and add value.

In this episode of the Talent Talks Podcast, our host Martin Smith speaks to Shifa Nasir, a procurement recruitment consultant at Talent Drive. Shifa discusses the power of networking and the current trends in the real estate and property market. Shifa shares her insights into the procurement industry and offers advice for candidates looking for new roles. She also discusses the importance of branding and marketing oneself in the procurement field.TakeawaysNetworking is a powerful tool for building connections and staying up to date with industry trends.Candidates should focus on creating a strong CV and building their presence on platforms like LinkedIn to stand out from the crowd.Procurement professionals should consider hosting events and participating in podcasts to amplify their voice and share their knowledge.The real estate and property market is seeing opportunities for technology integration, supply diversity and localization of suppliers.Hiring managers should have a clear idea of the role they are hiring for and involve relevant team members in the interview process.To learn more about Talent Drive, visit their website on www.talentdrive.co.uk

In this episode, Martin Smith interviews James Ball, Associate Director at Infosys Portland.James discusses the differences between working in industry and working in consultancy in the procurement field. James shares his insights based on his 25 years of experience in procurement, with 15 years in industry and the last 10 years in consultancy. He discusses the differences in thought processes, responsibilities and timeframes between the two roles, and explores the concept of adaptive procurement transformation and the evolving role of procurement in organisations.This episode of Talent Talks covers…●      Working in industry and working in consultancy in procurement have significant differences in thought processes, responsibilities and timeframes.●      In industry, procurement professionals focus on long-term strategies, team well-being, stakeholder engagement, policies, processes and category plans. In consultancy, they focus on project-based work, specific work streams, and achieving outcomes for clients.●      Procurement is evolving to become its own profit centre, with a focus on adding value to the business and digitalisation.●      The skills required for modern-day procurement professionals include adaptability, business partnering, technology proficiency and a learning mindset.●      Consultancy in procurement has experienced double-digit growth and continues to be in demand, with organisations using consultancies for transformation projects and as a flexible resource.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background of James Ball01:25 The Differences Between Working in Industry and Consultancy in Procurement11:46 Adaptive Procurement Transformation: Making Procurement Relevant16:36 The Evolving Role of Procurement in Organisations32:01 The Growth and Demand for Consultancy in Procurement

In this episode, Martin Smith interviews Gavin Boswell, the Director of Procurement at Serco. They discuss Gavin's 10-year career at Serco and the evolution of procurement over the past 30 years and the changing role of procurement professionals. They also explore the value proposition of procurement and the different methods used to deliver cost reduction and value optimisation. Gavin discusses the challenges and opportunities that come with leading transformation efforts in different organisations and emphasises the importance of creating alignment and appreciating the criticality of leadership in driving successful transformations. Gavin also discusses AI and its potential impact on procurement regarding processing activities, such as purchase order and invoice processing, as well as more strategic activities like supplier relationship management, innovation, sustainability and risk management.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Different methods and approaches are used to deliver cost reduction and value optimisation in procurement. Innovation and building relationships with suppliers are key to enhancing competitiveness.Procurement should align with the strategic priorities of the business.Curiosity leads to a data-driven approach and enables strategic and business-focused procurement.Being proud of the profession and the journey of development in procurement is rewarding and fulfilling. AI could play a significant role in procurement, freeing up talent for more impactful activities.Chapters00:00Introduction and Background02:01The Value Proposition of Procurement04:20Prioritisation and Focus in Different Business Units06:23Transformation and Development08:23Creating an Environment for Collaboration in Procurement11:23The Importance of Alignment13:35Challenges of Achieving Alignment in a Complex Business15:50Developing a Business Mindset20:38The Rewarding Journey of Development in Procurement21:53Continuous Learning and Evolution in Procurement23:51The Future of Procurement in the Digital Age24:12The Role of AI in Procurement25:15The Role of Automation in Procurement25:58Unlocking Talent through Automation26:18Using Automation for Processing and Strategic Activities26:39

In this episode, Martin Smith interviews Claire Bevan, Global Procurement Director at Dentsu. Claire discusses her career journey and the challenges and opportunities she has faced in driving a global procurement transformation. Claire emphasises the importance of building relationships with stakeholders and proving the value of procurement. She shares her advice for aspiring procurement leaders, including taking every opportunity to learn and grow, and the importance of hiring the right talent for the team. Claire also discusses the evolving landscape of diversity and inclusion in procurement and the impact of remote work on work-life balance. This episode of Talent Talks covers: ·      The emphasises on building relationships with stakeholders and how crucial it is for the success of procurement.·      The value of procurement and consistently delivering results being the key to gaining support and resources.·     Taking every opportunity to learn and grow within the organisation you're working in, even if it doesn't necessarily relate to procurement.·      Hiring the right talent is essential for the success of the procurement function.·      The conversation around diversity and inclusion in procurement is increasing, but there is still work to be done.·      Remote work having a positive impact on work-life balance for working parents.

In this episode, Martin Smith interviews Alex Jennings, an experienced procurement and commercial professional who has worked for companies such as GE and Toyota.They discuss Alex's career journey, his experience in managing teams, and the changes in the procurement profession. They also delve into Alex's entrepreneurial journey and the launch of his procurement platform, the Alchemie Network. The platform aims to connect procurement, supply chain, and sustainability professionals and provide them with tools for personal and professional development. Alex emphasises the importance of building strong teams, understanding individual strengths and weaknesses, and creating a culture of trust and diversity.This episode of Talent Talks covers: ●      Alex Jennings 40 years worth of experience within procurement and commercial roles.●      The importance of building strong teams that complement each other's strengths and weaknesses.●    That diversity, both in terms of demographics and thought, is crucial for a healthy and successful team.●      The need for a culture of trust and an environment where team members feel comfortable challenging each other.●      The evolution of procurement from a fulfilment-focused function to a strategic role that requires managing supply chain risks and disruptions.●      Alex introduces the Alchemie Network, a procurement platform that aims to connect professionals and provide tools for personal and professional development.

In this episode, Martin Smith speaks to Tom Hajek, an independent consultant and head of strategic procurement at Checkatrade. They discuss the key ingredients for successful procurement transformation. Tom emphasises the importance of aligning procurement with high-level business objectives and applying a framework of people, processes, and technology. Tom also shares his methodology for prioritising transformation efforts and delivering commercial wins. He highlights the need for procurement to be perceived as a strategic enabler of the business and offers insights on attracting and developing procurement talent. Tom concludes by discussing the challenges faced by procurement teams and the profession as a whole.This episode of Talent Talks covers:1. Align procurement with high-level business objectives to deliver successful transformation.2. Prioritise transformation efforts based on stakeholder engagement and burning issues.3. Position procurement as a strategic enabler of the business to elevate its brand.4. Attract and develop procurement talent with a focus on aptitude, commerciality, and sound judgment.

SummaryIn this episode, Martin Smith interviews Brad Mills, the first recruit of Talent Drive, about his experience in procurement recruitment. They discuss the challenges and opportunities in the retail and hospitality sector, the market outlook for 2024, and the changes in procurement recruitment over the years. Brad shares tips for hiring and emphasises the importance of diversity and agility of thought in the hiring process. They also highlight the value of industry experience in recruitment. Brad provides insights into the current state of procurement recruitment and offers valuable advice for both hiring managers and candidates.This episode of Talent Talks covers:1.        The retail and hospitality sector faced challenges in 2023, but there are positive aspects and opportunities for growth in 2024.2.        Leadership roles are emerging in procurement, creating new opportunities for professionals in the field.3.        The recruitment process should focus on finding candidates who are a 7 or 8 out of 10, with the right soft skills and potential for development.4.        Diversity and agility of thought are important in hiring, as they bring different perspectives and ideas to the team.5.        Industry experience is valuable, but candidates from diverse backgrounds can also bring unique insights and skills.

In this episode, Martin Smith interviews Ben Paynter, Procurement Director of Burberry, about his journey into procurement and the challenges and opportunities in the industry. Ben shares his transition from sales to procurement and his passion for bringing non-procurement professionals into the field. He discusses the unique challenges of procurement in the retail sector and the need for skill sets related to ESG and CSR. Ben emphasises the importance of competency assessment in hiring and providing comprehensive feedback to candidates. He also addresses the war on talent in procurement and the need for more investment and awareness in the profession.This episode of Talent Talks covers: Transitioning from sales to procurement offers new opportunities and a different perspective on negotiation and value creation.The retail sector presents unique challenges in procurement, including the need for agility and the close link to a dynamic marketplace.The industry faces challenges in finding and developing procurement talent, including the lack of investment in training and the focus on specific skill sets.Competency assessment and comprehensive feedback are essential in hiring and developing procurement professionals.Companies and individuals in the procurement field should work together to elevate the profession and create more awareness and opportunities.

In this episode of the Talent Talks podcast, Martin Smith interviews Brian Lombard, a manager at Talent Drive. Brian shares his background and how he transitioned from procurement into procurement recruitment. He primarily focuses on the interim market and discusses the current opportunities and trends in UK procurement. They also touch on the impact of IR35 regulation and the hiring activity in different sectors. Brian provides advice for individuals looking to enter the interim market and shares tips for hiring interim professionals. Finally, they discuss their plans for 2024 and the growth of their business. This episode of Talent Talks covers: Transitioning from procurement to recruitment can be a natural progression due to the similar skill sets required.The interim market in UK procurement is currently strong, with opportunities in various sectors such as public sector, risk, and financial services.The impact of IR35 regulation has settled, leading to more confidence in hiring contractors outside IR35.Networking effectively and showcasing specific strengths are crucial for individuals looking to enter the interim market.When hiring interim professionals, it is important to move at a fast pace, align with market salary expectations, and prioritize smooth onboarding.

“The most critical thing right now is to really develop the relationships with the people you work with, spend time with them understand them really well and form as trusting a relationship as you possibly can”Tim has had a diverse journey in procurement, working in the industry for nearly 20yrs. He began his career joining Tesco on their graduate scheme and hasn't looked back, working for various companies in retail, automotive and property both in the UK and internationally. He now heads up procurement for one of the largest UK property services companies, where over the last 3 years he has taken the area from a brownfield space to a mature function.Tim shares his journey into procurement and discusses the importance of emotional intelligence in the field. He highlights the challenges and opportunities in procurement, particularly in managing time and resources. Tim also explores the evolving talent landscape in procurement and emphasises the need for continuous learning and development. He discusses the balance between a cash-driven approach and a business partnering approach in procurement.Tim and Martin discuss the challenges of prioritisation and uncertainty in procurement. They highlight the difficulty of determining priorities and the unpredictable nature of outcomes. They also emphasise the importance of developing strong relationships with stakeholders to navigate the changing business landscape.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Emotional intelligence within procurement.Adaptability and being open to change within the industryFocusing on business priorities while striving for continuous improvementEmbracing new challenges and experiences.Building strong relationships

“We need suppliers who understand what it's like from underrepresented groups' perspectives, because those often are the groups that we're looking to speak to.”Supplier diversity is essential to any good procurement professional's portfolio, which emphasises the importance of the SRM that underpins everything.That's a focus area for one of procurement's most prominent voices, Coventry Building Society's Rebecca Howard.Rebecca joins us on Talent Talks to discuss her very purposeful route into procurement, a growing focus on the social element of ESG goals, and the skills that separate average SRM from great SRM.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Rebecca's determined entry into procurementThe two top skills that underpin great SRMThe amazing work on supplier diversityPros and cons of separating SRM from procurementAdvice for aspiring procurement and SRM leadersThe Talent Talks Podcast is proudly sponsored by Staverton Consulting.Staverton Consulting delivers tangible and sustainable cost reduction as well as reducing business risks throughout the supply chain for private equity backed businesses, SME'S and growth companies. For more information please head to https://www.stavertonconsulting.com/.

“Really push yourself out there - pushing your comfort zone is where you really feel alive.”Soft skills in procurement are one thing, but employing them to become one of procurement's most prominent names on social media is another ball game entirely.If we're to elevate the profession, it's the kind of work that Tom Mills puts into his social following which we need to see more often. Tom returns for the second in this two-part episode of Talent Talks to discuss the power of stepping out of your comfort zone, how to stand out, and advice for anyone looking to bolster their confidence.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Tom's powerful experience dealing with Pervasive Anxiety DisorderAdvice for those wanting to gain confidence when sharing their voiceLong term aims for Tom's overall social media pushThe strength of ‘feeling fear and doing it anyway'The Talent Talks Podcast is proudly sponsored by Staverton Consulting.Staverton Consulting delivers tangible and sustainable cost reduction as well as reducing business risks throughout the supply chain for private equity backed businesses, SME'S and growth companies. For more information please head to https://www.stavertonconsulting.com/.

“Everyone should be learning right through their career. It's actually the power of saying very little, and listening.”Soft skills are an undoubtedly vital part of any procurement professional's skillset, but it's such a vague term for something so key.That's why Tom Mills' advocacy for soft skill development makes him the perfect guest on Talent Talks for a two-part discussion around how new professionals can stay a cut above the rest.Join us for part 1 with Tom, where he covers the specific skills to develop, a comprehensive approach to stakeholder management, and the challenging language pervading the industry.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Why soft skills have evolved to become 10 times more important than beforeWhich specific soft skills are best for budding procurement professionals to developFlipping the narrative in stakeholder managementThe language of procurement and whether it clouds the understanding of how essential soft skills can beThe Talent Talks Podcast is proudly sponsored by Staverton Consulting.Staverton Consulting delivers tangible and sustainable cost reduction as well as reducing business risks throughout the supply chain for private equity backed businesses, SME'S and growth companies. For more information please head to https://www.stavertonconsulting.com/.

“Procurement has been really effective in seeing growth opportunities and saying ‘Let us manage this, we can look after this'.”While Will Bowley's route into procurement may not be conventional, his pedigree in the industry matches the impact delivered as Director of Staverton Consulting.With a unique perspective on the industry, Will joins us on Talent Talks to discuss the biggest challenges facing startup procurement consultancies, procurement's evolution as a commercial facilitator, and much more.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Positioning procurement for executive visibilityThe ‘seat at the table' happening organically, not being forcedBreaking the stigma surrounding consultanciesWill's journey into business ownership & taking the plungeProcurement's evolution as a commercial facilitatorLeaders & CPOs seizing opportunities and leading agendasThe Talent Talks Podcast is proudly sponsored by Staverton Consulting.Staverton Consulting delivers tangible and sustainable cost reduction as well as reducing business risks throughout the supply chain for private equity backed businesses, SME'S and growth companies. For more information please head to https://www.stavertonconsulting.com/.

“It's not hard to find bodies if you want bodies, but the best people have options. You've got to be approaching them.”When good procurement people have the power to choose their path, it takes proactivity to create a quality team - as Sermet Baykaner has done proficiently through his career to date. With names like Carnival and Unilever under his belt, Sermet - Bourne Leisure's Group Procurement Director - is this week's fantastic guest on the Talent Talks podcast.Join us as we touch on attracting talent in a competitive market, convincing the C-suite to support the procurement agenda, and integrating sustainability business-wide.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Building sustainability into the overall strategyHow to attract talent when good people have optionsSolving the C-suite's needs, rather than focusing on what you can deliverWhat's evolved in procurement and how Sermet has adapted to thatThe Talent Talks Podcast is proudly sponsored by Staverton Consulting.Staverton Consulting delivers tangible and sustainable cost reduction as well as reducing business risks throughout the supply chain for private equity backed businesses, SME'S and growth companies. For more information please head to https://www.stavertonconsulting.com/.

“We have all these other things that we can do, but the end game that the Chief Executive wants is the value that you're giving them.”The procurement industry is ever-evolving with shifting skillsets, constrained talent pool and a new age of technology & automation - it's on us to evolve with it. We hosted an incredible Talent Talks Live event at Landsec in September, where we delighted in a panel with Visa's S-J Aldridge, Specsavers' Carl Ferrand and AWE's Jonathan Patrick.Join us for this live podcast episode where they touch on reframing our value, strategy vs tactical operating, and ChatGPT's role in procurement's future.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Our value in procurement, and whether we need to reframe/market that value betterCrafting procurement as a more strategic function, shedding transactional activitiesHow the talent pool has shifted, particularly post-pandemicThe balance of technical skill vs commercial skillAI's uses in the future of procurementThe Talent Talks Podcast is proudly sponsored by Staverton Consulting.Staverton Consulting delivers tangible and sustainable cost reduction as well as reducing business risks throughout the supply chain for private equity backed businesses, SME'S and growth companies. For more information please head to https://www.stavertonconsulting.com/.

“The challenge is finding somebody with a really good set of soft skills, and that transcends both public and private sectors.”When it comes to recruiting exciting new procurement talent, good apprenticeships can be the perfect combination of experience and learning.Emma Law's sustained efforts to create such apprenticeship opportunities are becoming fruitful, alongside her already stellar decade at Orbis Partnership.We're joined by Emma on Talent Talks to discuss the major challenges facing public sector procurement hiring, why we need to push harder on ESG, and AI's role in procurement's future.This episode of Talent Talks covers:The main challenges with recruiting new talent into the public sectorHow public scrutiny affects decision makingWhich skills transcend the divide between public and private sectorsHow early we should bring procurement language into educationAI's role in the future of procurement, and the time it'll free up for strategic thinkingThe Talent Talks Podcast is proudly sponsored by Staverton Consulting. Staverton Consulting delivers tangible and sustainable cost reduction as well as reducing business risks throughout the supply chain for private equity backed businesses, SME'S and growth companies. For more information please head to stavertonconsulting.com.

“Procurement was once the gatekeeper to the marketplace. Technology speeds up how we do things, and brings the external market to internal stakeholders.”The one defence we have against extinction of any kind is adaptation. It might be drastic to suggest procurement is on the brink of extinction, but it certainly needs to adapt…Whether it's in the attraction of new talent or moving away from gatekeeping suppliers, Thames Water's David Wylie has seen first hand the power of shifting focus and making changes.David joins us for Talent Talks this week to share key learnings from roles in TfL & Centrica, how to deliver meaningful social value, and the three most important words in procurement.This episode of Talent Talks covers:How the procurement industry needs to shift to stay relevantEvolving observations in procurement talentThe power of bringing ‘relentless insight' into your businessOperating in environments with very different regulatory challengesDelivery of social value at Thames Water

“Marketing, arguably more so than other categories, needs to be seen as an investment for growth, not a cost to be cut.”There's a boldness that roles in Nike, Danone and Reckitt would give anyone, and Stuart Dunk has funnelled that boldness into a business that's now over 3 years strong.Stuart's specialism is in marketing procurement, an area which he believes to lean further towards value over cost than almost any other category.Having experienced landmark roles in huge brands, and now growing his business, Don't Forget to Look, his experience makes for a fascinating perspective on the marketing procurement landscape in this week's Talent Talks.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Stuart's work on London 2012 and subsequent career with Nike, Reckitt & DanoneHow to increase engagement with procurement through intuitive buying processesStakeholder management being a near-universal skillMarketing's status as an investment in growthAttracting and retaining marketing procurement talentHow Stuart used the confidence of prior roles to start his own business as a ‘poacher turned gamekeeper'

“Build yourself a great team, and build a team that challenges you. You can't do it all yourself, you're only as good as the people around you.”With huge, long-spanning roles at Diageo and Compass Group, Oliver Cock has developed the blueprints for successful procurement change, fulfilling leadership, and introducing category management from scratch.Oliver is an incredibly experienced procurement leader, and now CEO of Zircon Consulting, which makes him wonderfully placed to weigh in on the virtues of great leadership, empathy, talent management, and so much more.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Oliver's long and illustrious career through CPO, MD and other leadership rolesIntroducing category management from scratch by focusing on quick wins in core areasWorking with key stakeholders for greater buy-in from the wider businessRecruiting new talent with attitude over aptitudeEmpathy and clarity of direction being essential in procurement leadership

“There's a hidden cost - the cost of bad deals because you don't choose to use interim resources.”Since 2021's reforms, IR35 has been a major factor in the channels through which procurement resource is found, and Mark Coulson has become a guiding light through the confusion.Having spent many years specialising in IR35, he's perfectly placed to share with us on Talent Talks how to navigate the main sticking points around contractors and interim staff.We also break down how the specialist knowledge of interim procurement professionals can save thousands through the simple power of subject expertise.This episode of Talent Talks covers:An overview of IR35 and the precedents set by case lawSimplifying how to spot what should lie within IR35Avoiding scope creepThe powerful use cases where interim procurement is invaluableHow interim resource can prevent the potential added cost of bad deals

“I love seeing people grow and flourish. It's fulfilling and quite humbling that you've been part of someone else's success and growth..”Bringing together the best of both worlds is a powerful procurement strategy for those with private and public sector experience - Divyesh Lad combines those in a challenging utility sector.The Head of Commercial Services for United Utilities joins us on episode 76 of Talent Talks as we consider the skills gap in today's market, how to manage teams & help them flourish, flexing your communication style, and much more.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Challenges and opportunities unique to the utilities sectorFilling the skills gap in the marketTransferable skills throughout the profession & combining experiencesLearning how to manage people effectively, and help them to evolve and flourish

“We should always remember opportunity cost - sometimes time itself is much more valuable and important than a potential monetary saving.”Across a career that's spanned THG, Sky and now Epos Now, Isabella Moise has thrived in her roles with an ability to marry the needs of stakeholders with wildly conflicting ideas of success.Now in a Head of Procurement role early in her career, Isabella's insight into the importance of understanding culture and delivering confidence in negotiation comes from a fascinating, unique perspective.Isabella joins Martin this week on Talent talks to discuss her stellar path in the profession, and offers her shrewd advice for young, female procurement leaders in the making.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Juggling the needs of conflicting stakeholdersBringing confidence into a negotiation scenarioWhy the negotiating process relies on more than simple messagingOpportunity cost and the value of time vs money in procurementOvercoming challenges to become a role model in D&IThe need to return to goals around CSR and sustainability

“As a consultant I had direct access to the chief executive. As a secondee, to go anywhere near the chief executive wasn't going to happen.”The procurement consultancy world has its draws, from intense and varied experiences to, at times, greater access within the business.That said, Daniel Abda has worked on both consultancy and in-house teams, currently with Efficio and previously leading an Asset Management programme for the London Olympic Games.This week on Talent Talks, Daniel takes us through the distinctions between consultancy and in-house, how to handle intense & strict external deadlines, and whether AI could have procurement functions cutting jobs to make new savings…This episode of Talent Talks covers:Daniel's work on the procurement organisation strategy for the London 2012 Olympic GamesHow to respond to being given unrealistic targetsConsultancy procurement experience, and how it stacks up against being part of an in-house teamManaging rising energy costs and sustainability goalsAI tools, and whether it could cut jobs in the industry

“Procurement's relevance depends on our ability to embrace technological change.”Greenfield procurement presents an opportunity that most procurement professionals would relish, a chance which Robert Jones has taken with open arms at Community Fibre.Currently Senior Procurement Manager in a function that he's helped to grow since roles at The AA and Johnson & Johnson, Robert joins Martin Smith on Talent Talks to discuss the growth of procurement and how technology is core to staying relevant.We also take a look at who's responsible for the sustainability agenda, managing stakeholder expectations, and consider the value of CIPS qualification in the future.This episode of Talent Talks covers:How to get a greenfield procurement function started and making impactAddressing expectations of procurement and potential pushback by working to solve stakeholders' challengesHow useful the CIPS qualification can be in the day-to-day, real worldProcurement's responsibility for sustainability agendas vs the rest of a companyThis episode of Talent Talks is sponsored by 4C Associates – a leading European procurement and supply chain consultancy, who work collaboratively with forward-thinking clients to deliver real business value across a wide range of transformation and cost optimisation service offerings. Visit https://www.4cassociates.com/ for more information.

“This is actually a great time to be in procurement, because it's a time to shine.”Andrew Smith's career has taken him from huge roles in Royal Mail to international leadership with Avis Budget in Copenhagen, an industry forced recently to rapidly evolve.As a result of such impressive experiences across several decades, Andrew has a keen eye on what it takes to create impact while respecting the various stakeholders one might have.Andrew joins us on Talent Talks to discuss how he grows a relatively immature function, builds relationships, handles hurdles, and why now is a fantastic time to be in procurement.This episode of Talent Talks covers:The route to grow from a small function into one with global reachUnderstanding an organisation's culture before implementing changeUtilising industry-wide issues as an opportunity to evolveShifts and trends towards localisation and quality of supplyThis episode of Talent Talks is sponsored by 4C Associates – a leading European procurement and supply chain consultancy, who work collaboratively with forward-thinking clients to deliver real business value across a wide range of transformation and cost optimisation service offerings. Visit https://www.4cassociates.com/ for more information.

“People make the world go round. If you ever have a problem, it's often the people that you've won over who will back you up or help you out.”Whether it's through his own procurement leadership roles or rich experience in consulting and training, Oliver Jones knows the key to presenting procurement's value.Return on investment extends beyond numbers, and when it's time to get people on board, Oliver's emphasis on people is not to be overlooked…The Managing Consultant with Elixirr joins us on Talent Talks to discuss C-suite engagement, ‘keeping the exec out of jail', winning over stakeholders, and how tech can't solve all our future challenges.This episode of Talent Talks covers:How procurement's ROI should be measured more holisticallyKey differences between sectors, and the need to adapt your style of communicationThe power of winning over key stakeholders to become your ambassadorsTaking people on your procurement transformation journeyIQ vs EQ in leadership roles

“It comes back to innovation: what could we do differently to get ourselves through this difficult period?”Whether you're among the largest corporations in the world, or the bustling startups growing through adversity, innovation needs to be at the heart of your procurement function.Applying that principle at both ends of the spectrum with Coca-Cola and Mum & You, David Cowell is the perfect guest on Talent Talks to weigh in on building a successful function from scratch, and retaining your top talent.Tune into this week's episode for a look at how David handled a function spanning over 13 countries, whether centralised procurement trumps decentralised procurement, and offers invaluable insight for professionals ready to move up the ladder.This episode of Talent Talks covers:David's several decades' experience in huge, multinational companies such as Coca-Cola and NestleHow to recruit and retain the best talent through methods beyond remunerationTaking on the challenge of setting up a supply chain from scratchWeighing up the advantages of centralised vs decentralised procurement functionsInvaluable advice for aspiring procurement leadersThis episode of Talent Talks is sponsored by 4C Associates – a leading European procurement and supply chain consultancy, who work collaboratively with forward-thinking clients to deliver real business value across a wide range of transformation and cost optimisation service offerings. Visit https://www.4cassociates.com/ for more information.

“Ultimately, the challenges for a procurement function are very similar, but going into a different environment helps you grow.”There's no substitute for the level of depth and breadth of experience that Tracey Williamson has developed over the course of her illustrious career as a procurement leader.From roles in several major blue chip organisations like Nissan, Tesco, Vodafone and many more, she's cracked the key to creating transformative change in any procurement function.We dive into her focus on good data, the conscious effort to diversify skills and sectors, and how diversity and inclusion has evolved throughout her time in the industry.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Why you should broaden your experience rather than strive to just climb the ladderThe nuances of public sector rolesManaging and using spend data to create transformationThe key attributes of successful procurement professionalsHow everyone can better support the growth of diversity and inclusion across the boardThis episode of Talent Talks is sponsored by 4C Associates – a leading European procurement and supply chain consultancy, who work collaboratively with forward-thinking clients to deliver real business value across a wide range of transformation and cost optimisation service offerings. Visit https://www.4cassociates.com/ for more information.

“If you are purely doing procurement and commercial on paper, the paper doesn't stand the litmus test,”Victoria Cope's career roles are supremely varied and her credentials numerous, so she serves as a perfect example of how wide ranging experiences can aid procurement leaders in succeeding at the highest level.With an Aeronautical Engineering background, over 20 years in the Defence & Security sector, and several awards for her contributions to the industry, she's now the Commercial & Category Director for the UK Health Security Agency.Such an array of knowledge inevitably led to a fascinating discussion on Talent Talks this week, covering the delicate balance between public service and commerciality, necessary steps to boost diversity, why strong relationships beat procurement on paper, and so much more.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Victoria's route into procurement, being a chartered Aeronautical Engineer by backgroundProcurement's biggest relationship lessons learned from the pandemicThe successful evolution and further advancements needed within diversity and inclusionBalancing the health of the nation with maintaining her function's commercialityThe growth of social value and ESG

“We often create a list of 12 things, but if you focus on the one thing that makes the biggest difference, you'll be more successful than having a big shopping list.”ITV, Sky, Starbucks, Serco and Nestle may not share much in terms of sector, but all are huge brands that Jonathan Patrick has at one point called home.His ability to instigate successful transformation at the highest level is beyond doubt, and as Transport for London's CPO he's continuing to create a staggering procurement legacy.We hear from Jonathan on Talent Talks this week as he shares the measures of successful transformation, how to firm up against 2023's impending pressures, and how his work on I'm a Celeb changed how he evaluates each business' true challenges.This episode of Talent Talks covers:How to deliver transformation at the highest levelThe barometers for success to keep top-of-mind2023's big challenges, and how they'll likely affect risk managementJonathan's biggest learns from his work with ITV, Sony, Serco, Sky, and more huge brandsThis episode of Talent Talks is sponsored by 4C Associates – a leading European procurement and supply chain consultancy, who work collaboratively with forward-thinking clients to deliver real business value across a wide range of transformation and cost optimisation service offerings. Visit https://www.4cassociates.com/ for more information.

“We had to stay absolutely core to our principles around collaboration, relationships and partnerships. In the supply chain arena, the strength of those came to the forefront.”It's hard to deny that one of the most affected industries from the pandemic has been air travel, so how has the industry's supply chain stayed strong in preparation for its return?The value of strong, long-lasting relationships is paramount to NATS' CPO, Tim Bullock, who joins us on Talent Talks to discuss how the lengthy groundwork in building bonds will pay dividends, whether soft skills trump technical knowhow, and updating practices to better integrate with the business' objectives.This episode of Talent Talks covers:The quest for talent, and where EQ and soft skills might trump technical skillsBalancing service function obligations with being the conscience of a businessDividends paid by building relationships that NATS could rely on throughout the pandemicThe value of collaboration and partnerships in long-term industriesLinks and references at: https://talentdrive.co.uk/

“You need to become the commercial architect, as opposed to the person that sends out the RFP and spends hours on Excel trying to analyse the responses of those prices.”As procurement professionals venture further into becoming commercial leads looking to drive value, the skillset sought from those entering the role is ever-shifting.Amassing a huge arsenal of skills throughout his illustrious career with John Lewis, PepsiCo, and now Amazon Fresh, Rob Turner is well positioned to observe that evolution.Rob joins us on Talent Talks this week to consider how to successfully incorporate stakeholder needs, the growing divide between tech-driven & non-tech-driven businesses, whether remote roles can create effective teams, and much more.This episode of Talent Talks covers:How Rob's curious mind aided him throughout his varied career journeyThe importance of being flexible and open to changeBecoming a commercial architect with more high-level considerationsThe evolution of essential skills with growth of tech-driven procurementBarriers and opportunities in the procurement marketWhether you can fully achieve buy-in from your team in a fully remote roleThis episode of Talent Talks is sponsored by 4C Associates – a leading European procurement and supply chain consultancy, who work collaboratively with forward-thinking clients to deliver real business value across a wide range of transformation and cost optimisation service offerings. Visit https://www.4cassociates.com/ for more information.

“I'm not here to cut costs, I'm just here to add value. However you want to dress that word of value, it's totally up to you.”The next generation of bright procurement prospects bring with them a focus on understanding what they're procuring in a way that we haven't seen before.We can only continue this trend of value and ROI, however, if we overcome the barriers to entry for school leavers and graduates. Two such future procurement leaders, Williams Racing's Olivia McNamara and Reckitt's Julie Katz, join Martin this week on Talent Talks.We discuss the shift away from ‘baseball bat cost-cutting', giving the rest of the business a better understanding of procurement's strategic role, and the need for greater awareness of the profession.This episode of Talent Talks covers:The creative difference between direct and indirect procurementFocusing on value, and moving away from cost-cutting aloneTop skills needed in the modern procurement professionNew generations wanting to truly understand what they're procuringHow to better present procurement's role to the wider businessThis episode of Talent Talks is sponsored by 4C Associates – a leading European procurement and supply chain consultancy, who work collaboratively with forward-thinking clients to deliver real business value across a wide range of transformation and cost optimisation service offerings. Visit https://www.4cassociates.com/ for more information.Links and references at: https://talentdrive.co.uk/

“If something doesn't look exciting enough for something they're going to do for the next 40-50 years in their career, why are they going to bother even trying to get into that profession?”When the senior procurement professionals end their careers, we need a rich talent pool to whom they can entrust all that experience and expertise.Who better to ask about the current barriers impeding the introduction of fresh, smart and passionate professionals than those fresh from the process?On Talent Talks this week we continue our discussions with future procurement leaders around essential skills, barriers to entry, the future of the carbon vs cost equation, data's prevalence in the profession, and more with 4C Associates' Celia Downie and Frasers Group's Arron Woodland.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Ideal skills for success in today's procurement industryEmbracing an attitude of transparency and collaboration with suppliersHow to attract new talent at an earlier stage in their careerProcurement's role in leading ESG initiatives going forwardThis episode of Talent Talks is sponsored by 4C Associates – a leading European procurement and supply chain consultancy, who work collaboratively with forward-thinking clients to deliver real business value across a wide range of transformation and cost optimisation service offerings. Visit https://www.4cassociates.com/ for more information.Links and references at: https://talentdrive.co.uk/

“The single biggest barrier to entry for getting young people into procurement is a lack of knowledge of what it even is.”Young professionals entering today's procurement world will be leading our industry into an age led by sustainability & social value, so what's the experience like for future CPOs, and how does it need to improve?To answer this key question, Martin is joined this week by three of the brightest new procurement professionals, Tesco's Lead Procurement Manager, Josh Banks, England Rugby's Procurement & Supply Chain Lead, Sophie Morton, and Procurement Officer at Wellcome Trust, Olivia Donovan.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Current routes into procurement, and barriers to entryThe variety that makes the profession so rewardingSkills needed to thrive in a successful procurement teamPR and image issues with the industrySustainability's growing prominence as a factor that'll appeal to talented new procurement professionalsThis episode of Talent Talks is sponsored by 4C Associates – a leading European procurement and supply chain consultancy, who work collaboratively with forward-thinking clients to deliver real business value across a wide range of transformation and cost optimisation service offerings. Visit https://www.4cassociates.com/ for more information.Links and references at: https://talentdrive.co.uk/

“I think we don't always realise that we have a reputation with our suppliers, just like a company will have a consumer brand.”Consumer branding is a standard aspect of any business that's well documented - lesser considered but equally important, however, is the prospect of your supplier branding.Presenting yourself to potential suppliers for a partnership is a skill, one in which Cameron Holder is highly proficient. Having recently departed his role as Head of Commercial & Procurement at Nando's, Cameron joins Martin this week to share their approach to supplier relationships, how to win over pickier suppliers, and how to nurture a relationship that works for everyone.This episode of Talent Talks covers:How supplier branding plays a huge role in the partnerships you can makeWays to win over the suppliers who may be in demand, and are more picky about who they work withNando's' journey to taking a more consistent baseline approach to engaging with suppliersThe human element of procurement, and avoiding the conflation of being nice with being ‘soft'Links and references at: https://talentdrive.co.uk/

“In general when you're buying services, it won't have such a complex supply chain. But in terms of what you're buying, it's infinitely more complex.”Pinpointing the value of procured services on more metrics than pure cost is an issue worth solving, given the trillions in annual global spend that go towards services procurement.Zivio are leading the way with their SaaS platform - their CEO Jonny Dunning is our guest on Talent Talks this week discussing how technology is altering the procurement landscape.We dive into digitisation attracting talent, automation allowing higher level strategies to be employed, why data is power, and much more.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Trends in perception of procurement, currently seen as a relatively young functionGrowing sophistication in the design of procurement rolesThe talent shortage, and how candidates recognise digitisation regardless of categoryConsistent demand for automation, visibility and controlThe evolving landscape of procurement, with its increasing focus on dataThis episode of Talent Talks is sponsored by Nutral. Through their neutral vendor managed service, Nutral offers an easier, streamlined way to achieve better fulfilment, improved quality, 100% visibility & control of expenditure, less risk, and bottom-line savings. They place the interests of customers first when selecting suppliers – every time. Find out more at https://nutral.uk/ or https://www.linkedin.com/company/nutralsolutions/

“The common element is very similar between organisations. What you need to understand is the environment you're working within, the stakeholders that you have and their agendas.”Between impressively varied roles at Fulham FC, Harrods & and Allianz, Nick Brazier is evidence that when you understand your environment, third party management demands a similar skillset.Having now set up a third party management function at Close Brothers, Nick joins us on Talent Talks to break down the fine balance between risk management and agility, the need for a properly structured team, and how our industry can act to improve the talent pool.This episode of Talent Talks covers:Balancing risk management with agility and entrepreneurialismCreating a 3rd party management framework with buy-in across the organisationThe need for a properly structured team, making the most of everyone's skill setsTalent acquisition, and what the industry can do to attract more great candidatesThis episode of Talent Talks is sponsored by Nutral. Through their neutral vendor managed service, Nutral offers an easier, streamlined way to achieve better fulfilment, improved quality, 100% visibility & control of expenditure, less risk, and bottom-line savings. They place the interests of customers first when selecting suppliers – every time. Find out more at https://nutral.uk/Links and references at: https://talentdrive.co.uk/