Podcasts about experimental mindset

If you've ever felt overwhelmed by traditional goal-setting, stuck chasing someone else's version of success, or paralyzed by the fear of getting it wrong, this conversation will feel like a breath of fresh air. Joining me is Anne-Laure Le Cunff, an award-winning neuroscientist, entrepreneur, and the founder of Ness Labs, where her insights on lifelong learning, curiosity, and adaptability reach more than 100 000 curious minds every week. Join The Co-op - The Membership for Online Businesses Connect with Abagail Instagram All the Links! Together, we dive into her new, incredible book, Tiny Experiments, a transformative guide to living a more experimental life, turning uncertainty into curiosity and forging a path of self-discovery one step at a time. Anne-Laure has beautifully captured what so many of us are feeling today about growth, achievement, and navigating a world that's constantly changing. I'm so excited for you to read this one! Episode Highlights Golden Handcuffs: From Working at Google to Reframing Her Goals [0:01:49]  Why Our Approach to Goal-Setting Makes No Sense in a Changing World [0:07:00] What It Might Look Like to Approach Life with an Experimental Mindset [0:10:35] How an Experimental Mindset Might Actually Support the Sustainability of Your Business [0:23:58] Learning in Public: What's Different About Experimenting Together [0:29:05] Designing Your First Tiny Experiment [0:37:12] Our Sponsor: FreshBooks get 50% off for 6 months Thank you for listening! Please subscribe, rate, and review The Strategy Hour Podcast on iTunes. Ratings and reviews are extremely helpful and greatly appreciated. For show notes, go to bossproject.com/podcast.

Order your exclusive da Vinci BoldBrush paintbrush set!https://brushoffer.com/collections/boldbrushLearn the magic of marketing  with us here at BoldBrush!https://www.boldbrushshow.com/Get over 50% off your first year on your artist website with FASO:https://www.FASO.com/podcast/---To premiere season 10, we sat down with Jill Basham, an artist from Maryland's eastern shore with a passion for experimentation and an expressive structural way of painting beautiful realistic landscapes and cityscapes. Jill tells us about her transition from urban planning to painting later in life, initially exploring drawing classes after being a stay-at-home mom. Her artistic approach emphasizes experimentation, embracing failure, and avoiding predictable techniques, which she believes is crucial for artistic growth. She recommends emerging artists take drawing classes, work with limited palettes, and focus on embracing the process of creating art rather than fixating on the final product. She also recommends for artists to seek out other artists and build a network in the art world, which can help in terms of career and also technique. Finally, Jill tells us about her upcoming shows, including the American Society of Marine Artists' exhibition in Oregon and the Oil Painters of America National Exhibition in Florida. And she also tells us about her upcoming workshop at the Booth Museum in Georgia!Jill's FASO site:https://www.jillbasham.com/Jill's Social Media:https://www.instagram.com/jilltascherbasham/https://www.facebook.com/jill.t.bashamJill's upcoming workshop:https://www.jillbasham.com/workshop/35322/getting-unstuck-2-day-workshop

Anne-Laure Le Cunff, author of Tiny Experiments, joins us to discuss how an experimental mindset can offer teens a refreshing, exploratory approach to personal success, allowing them to break free from linear goal setting and conventional expectations.Sponsored by Equip: Eating disorder treatment that works—delivered at home. Visit equip.health/talking for more information, and a free consultation.Full Show NotesIn our quest to guide teens toward successful futures, we often urge them to set concrete, linear goals. We believe these goals offer structure and direction—yet this mindset may inadvertently restrict creativity, unique pursuits, and personal growth in our teens. What if, instead of marching along predetermined paths, teens explored a series of small, impactful experiments that revealed their interests and potential?Today, we're exploring a whole new way of setting teens up for success. Anne-Laure Le Cunff, ex-Googler, neuroscience Ph.D. candidate, and author of Tiny Experiments, reveals how embracing an experimental mindset can help teens navigate life with creativity and freedom. Through her work at Ness Labs, Anne-Laure encourages adopting experimentation over goal-setting to discover personal and unique paths.In her book, Anne-Laure proposes that teens be encouraged to test "tiny experiments" in various areas of their lives—whether it's trying a new hobby, exploring a budding interest, or learning a different skill. Instead of focusing on long-term commitments or the fear of making mistakes, these experiments allow for trial, error, and—most importantly—learning. This approach empowers teens to gather experience and data from which they can draw conclusions for the future.Cultivating CuriosityTeens are naturally curious, and Anne-Laure asserts we should nurture this trait. She suggests parents help teens create a "curiosity circle," where they can explore interests in a group setting, driving communal and personal growth. Recalling how adulthood urged us to “figure it all out,” Anne-Laure invites parents to reminisce about their own teenage years and prioritize exploration over immediate resolutions for their children.Energy and Decision MakingManaging energy, not just time, is crucial for effective experimentation. Anne-Laure highlights the importance of tracking one's energy and aligning activities with peak times for productive engagement. Reflecting on energy levels can enhance experiment outcomes—ensuring that teens feel empowered to optimize their personal schedules for better results.Overcoming Activation BarriersA significant challenge lies in initiating the first step. Anne-Laure introduces frameworks like “the pact” and “plus, minus, next” which scaffold the experimental process, breaking down larger tasks into manageable pieces and prompting reflection. This helps teens confidently explore new initiatives by emphasizing commitment, action, and reflection over mere completion.ConclusionAdopting an experimental mindset allows teens to approach uncertainties in life with agility and resilience—turning challenges into chances to learn. By encouraging experiments, we can prevent the analysis paralysis that often accompanies teen decision-making processes, fostering a more balanced, engaged approach to life.In the Episode…On top of the above, Anne-Laure and I also discuss:How perfectionism undermines opportunityThe role of community in shared learning experiencesPractical examples of setting up a teen-led experimentTracking progress and understanding setbacksFor more insights from Anne-Laure Le Cunff, visit Ness Labs or sign up for her newsletter. If you enjoyed this episode, help us spread the word, share with friends, and subscribe to Talking to Teens for more enlightened discussions.Sponsored by Equip: Eating disorder treatment that works—delivered at home. Visit equip.health/talking for more information, and a free consultation.

We all have mind junk and I want to help you work through it! In today's episode, I'm going to share snippets of some of my favorite trainings on mindset. It is absolutely imperative to shift your mindset and this episode is a preview of what that looks like! I believe that mindset is only the first step. You're only going to move forward if you take action and pursue the things you say you want. I want to dive into some of the specific things I'm going to be teaching so you can make use of some actionable tools to declutter your mind today!  Join The Co-op - The Membership for Online Businesses Connect with Abagail Instagram All the Links! Episode Highlights Shifting to an Experimental Mindset [0:02:45]  Busting the ‘Perfectionism' Myth [0:05:57] Accepting Fundamental Truths [0:11:20] Thank you for listening! Please subscribe, rate, and review The Strategy Hour Podcast on iTunes. Ratings and reviews are extremely helpful and greatly appreciated. For show notes, go to bossproject.com/podcast. Sponsors: Visit Indeed.com/STRATEGYHOUR for a $75 sponsored job credit. Use my link https://porkbun.com/StrategyHourPodcast and code STARTACHAT to get a .chat domain for less than $2 for the first year at Porkbun.

How can you adopt a better mindset around social media? Today, I'm continuing my series of summer shorts that will give you actionable advice in quick episodes. In this episode, I'm sharing my thoughts on approaching posting with an experimental mindset. Review full show notes and resources at mollycahill.com/podcastGet access to my Marketing Roadmap Private Audio Training: mollycahill.com/privatetrainingMentioned in this EpisodeFollow Molly on Instagram: instagram.com/mollyacahillHolistic Marketing Hub holisticmarketinghub.com/enrollContent Ecosystem holisticmarketinghub.com/content-plannerEpisode 068 How to Stand Out on Social Media mollycahill.com/68-stand-out-on-social-mediaCampaign Del Mar on Instagram: instagram.com/campaign_del_mar

In this episode of Product Thinking, Melissa Perri speaks with Sean O'Neill, Chief Product & Technology Officer at Syncron, about the concept of value-creation moments in product management and the importance of understanding the business side of product development. Financial literacy is a must for product managers, and aligning team goals with overall business outcomes is an ongoing battle they have to engage in. This episode offers fantastic insights into creating value for customers and driving business success, so don't miss it!

How can adopting a 'trial and error' approach help you on your personal development journey? Whether you're navigating the challenges of daily life or trying to make positive lifestyle changes, inviting trial and error into these types of processes can be hugely impactful. This episode explores this in more detail! If you enjoy the podcast please support it by... Giving a 5* rating Following/subscribing to the show Tagging me in an Instagram Story @lifestylewithgeorge Sharing this episode with others who could benefit from hearing this content Follow me on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lifestylewithgeorge⁠

AJ Jacobs is a New York Times bestselling author, journalist, editor at Esquire Magazine, and maybe one of the most interesting people on the planet today. His books include: “A Year of Living Biblically”' which documents his attempt to follow every single rule from the Bible as literally as possible, including stoning adulterers, not shaving his beard, and only wearing white; “The Know it All”, which is about reading the Encyclopedia from start to finish; as well as: “My Life as an Experiment”; “The Puzzler”, and “Drop Dead Healthy”. In this conversation, we explore: — What AJ learned from 2 months of radical honesty — The value of boldness and the time AJ accused Oprah Winfrey of farting on set — The puzzler mindset and the importance of replacing motivated reasoning with curiosity — AJ's thoughts on what it takes to write a good book. And more. You can learn more about AJ's work and books by going to: https://ajjacobs.com. His latest book is: The Year of Living Constitutionally and it's released in May of this year. --- A.J. Jacobs, acclaimed author, journalist, and lecturer, known for his humorous yet insightful writing style, has penned four New York Times bestsellers melding memoir, science, and self-help. He serves as editor at large at Esquire, a commentator on NPR, and a columnist for Mental Floss. Jacobs is renowned for his unique experiments, from reading the Encyclopedia Britannica to living by the Bible's rules, chronicled in his bestselling books. His latest work explores the global family tree's impact on society. A sought-after speaker, Jacobs has appeared on major media outlets and delivered TED talks. He resides in New York City with his family. --- Interview Links: — AJ's website - https://ajjacobs.com — AJ's books - https://amzn.to/49Kf7oC

On this episode of the IBO podcast, we have Carolina Fowler, Brand and Marketing Strategist at Lovegood Studio to discuss Utilizing an Experimental Mindset to Grow Your Business.Carolina is a brand and marketing strategist and founder of Lovegood Studio. After 16+ years in marketing, she approaches business growth with a Design Thinking-inspired experimental framework, designing smart brand & marketing strategies that help solopreneurs and small businesses to get the most out of their marketing efforts, with minimized risk and maximized impact, so we can finally build the joyful, financially and energetically sustainable businesses of our dreams.Carolina covers:Utilizing an experimental mindset in business growth. (7:17)Prioritizing marketing efforts for growth. (16:17)Marketing funnel optimization and experimentation. (21:43)Systematizing experimentation for marketing agencies. (27:30)You can find Carolina at Lovegood Studio and on socials:LinkedInIGGrab your freebie here!If you liked this episode, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!

I wrote a post about Git recently since I've found far too many people who didn't know Git well (or at all) and they seemed hesitant to experiment and learn. Is this because of being too busy? Do we have so many people who are working in tech where "it's just a job" and not because they enjoy technology? Or has management in too many places beaten people down to the point they don't want to try things? Perhaps your coworkers are resistant to change (or lazy) and you don't want to discuss new ideas with them. Read the rest of An Experimental Mindset

What would life be like if we saw it as one giant experiment? Pssst...it is!! How does that feel? How does that impact your perspective? Today on the Pod we're talking about Experimentation, and how this subtle Mindset shift can be a game changer in your life! We talk about: All the benefits of Experimentation How experimenting is Play Having Intentions vs. Expectations The difference between the Experience of vs. Results How we view Risk & Failure, and how to shift The Magic of Uncertainty & Surprise What to do when meeting Resistance Inviting space for Creativity & Possibility The connection between Authenticity & Experimentation Want to experiment with your Juiciest Year Yet? Join us on January 6th for our Juicy Jumpstart! If you're feeling generous this season, please go do something super nice for yourself... OR leave us a review. We'll be super happy with either :)

In this episode, we're talking about what it means to have a culture of curiosity and how you can deliberately cultivate it within your organization. This can be one of your biggest assets and can help your team members take ownership of projects, tasks, ideas, and even strategies! It takes intentional building blocks to get there and we want to help you put those blocks together. In our previous episode, Experimental Mindset Part 1, we talked about what it means to develop an experimental mindset, questions you need to ask yourself, things you need to let go of, and some of the different headspaces that we have been in throughout our business journey. Following on from that episode, this one delves into the strategic side of how you can actually go about fostering a culture of curiosity!  Thank you for listening! Please subscribe, rate, and review The Strategy Hour Podcast on iTunes. Ratings and reviews are extremely helpful and greatly appreciated. For show notes, go to thestrategyhour.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does an experimental mindset mean? How can you foster one in yourself and your team? That's what we're talking about today. Both Emylee and Abagail experience a constant push and pull that comes with mixing intuition with analysis. We see so many business owners that stay in the planning and research phase for so long that they never take action in one direction or the other. That's so frustrating to see! That's what sparked this training. Everything in your business is evolving. That includes your goals, what it takes to get there, and the headspace you need to be in to get there. We can say all day that business isn't linear, but you're not going to understand that until you've lived it! When businesses meet a challenge, they usually fail and give up entirely or succeed and seek a new challenge because they believe the journey should be harder. That's really hard to watch. We want to arm you with some thoughts and ideas that equip you to live in that experimental space that sees failure as information. We want to equip you to take the steps that allow you to incrementally move towards your goals. Thank you for listening! Please subscribe, rate and review The Strategy Hour Podcast on iTunes. Ratings and reviews are extremely helpful and greatly appreciated. For show notes, go to thestrategyhour.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stephen White, of the Bitesize B2B Marketing Podcast invited Chris on to chat about some of Refine Labs' recent research experiments, and how Chris approaches growth with an experimental mindset.  They cover why an experimental mindset is so important, and how teams can efficiently run experiments. Chris covers the self reported attribution experiment in detail, how that has paved the way for other programs at Refine Labs, and more! If you have questions for Chris, join the Revenue Vitals Live conversation on zoom by registering here, or submit them ahead of the call here! Also make sure to check out The Vault, where you can find full depth insights and IP beyond the high level live event.  Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at usehatch.fm.

Today we explore actionable business intelligence and forecasting for restaurants. We are joined by Christian Mouysset, Co-Founder of Tenzo, who is currently revolutionizing restaurant operations. The restaurant management and sales forecasting app works with leading brands such as The Breakfast Club, Pizza Pilgrims, and Nando's.In this episode we discuss Tenzo's goals for long-term growth, addressing the major industry issue with food waste, using AI to experiment, how Christian gets comfortable with failure, being a category leader – and setting the bar high when hiring.Links:‘Play Bigger' by Al Ramadan, Dave Peterson, Christopher Lochhead, Kevin Maney: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0062407619Tenzo: https://www.gotenzo.com/HRC 2023: https://www.hrc.co.uk/Christian's LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/christian-mouysset-62498a10Hospitality Mavericks Reading List: https://www.hospitalitymavericks.com/p/reading-list/ Connect with the podcast:Join the Hospitality Mavericks newsletter: https://rb.gy/5rqyeq A big thank you to our sponsor Bizimply who are helping progressive leaders and operators making every shift run like clockwork. Head to our website at www.bizimply.com or email them directly at advice@bizimply.com.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacyChartable - https://chartable.com/privacy

This week, Dan Neumann is joined by his colleague Quincy Jordan. In today's episode, they address a fascinating topic: the relationship between Communities of Practice (CoP) and Agile Transformations in an Agile Journey. Quincy shares the components of the typical structure for CoP and its crucial value in an Agile Organization, especially when trying to introduce new ideas and encouraging people to experiment. Dan and Quincy also dive deep into the leadership role in supporting CoP.   Key Takeaways An Agile transformation needs to have a level of sustainability to it. Communities of Practice are vital for installing and sustaining an Agile Transformation. A CoP needs to be a structured and intentional group. It needs to be part of the strategy throughout the organization, a mechanism needs to be in place. Separate or general communities? It depends on how large the organization is and in which aspect of the Agile Journey each particular organization is. How to persuade an organization to invest in a CoP. Sometimes a CoP can be seen as another meeting (on top of many others), which can be a reason for resisting it. Leadership needs to be on board for a successful CoP. A leader has to advocate for the Community of Practice and also has to give permission for people to attend. Leaders must show interest in what happens at the CoP, what people are learning, and how they are experiencing them. A CoP must be a psychologically safe environment. What is a typical structure for CoP? Forums: A forum is an event that happens every six weeks. In each Forum, two to three concepts are introduced for people to get familiar with them and understand their benefits and risks. These forums are more of a lecture than a dialogue. In between Forums, there are Core Practice Talks that occur every two to three weeks. Core Practice Talks are a deeper dive into the concepts introduced in the Forums. The Core Practice Talk is where the dialogue takes place, it is a hands-on learning experience. CoP are great places to introduce new ideas. A CoP is an excellent place to encourage people to experiment.   Mentioned in this Episode: Listen to “Communities of Practice with Quincy Jordan” and “Exploring an Experimental Mindset with Adam Ulery” The Fifth Discipline: The Art & Practice of The Learning Organization, Peter M. Senge   Want to Learn More or Get in Touch? Visit the website and catch up with all the episodes on AgileThought.com! Email your thoughts or suggestions to Podcast@AgileThought.com or Tweet @AgileThought using #AgileThoughtPodcast!

This episode describes why allowing yourself an experimental mindset while trying new approaches and accommodations with a PDA child or teen is so important.So you stop judging or paralyzing yourself with a fear of "doing it wrong" or not following some set of rigid rules.So you stop seeking answers that are already within your intuition and capacity to observe in day-to-day life with your child.So you stop comparing your path to other families, whether neurotypical or PDA.So you allow the accommodation practice to be fluid and change as your child does!Citation: "Neurotribes: The Legacy of Autism and the Future of Neurodiversity" by Steve Silberman, Chapter 7: Fighting the Monster.To connect with me, find me here: InstagramTikTokFacebookYouTubeFor more resources for parents, including #actuallyautistic pages to check out and a list of PDA-affirming practitioners in North America, check out the resources page at PDA Parents.For Courses, Programs, Coaching and Consulting, find me at At Peace Parents, LLC Thanks for listening! You are an amazing parent.xoxo,Casey

In this episode, I speak with Jason who is an author who helps others get unstuck and take risks on themselves.   He has adopted an “experiment mindset” to tackle the unknowns of long-term nomadic travel and how to make a living while on the road.   After many methodical experiments, he eventually transitioned to being a location-independent nomad, earning his income by being a freelance designer and writer. All this while diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes.    Listen on to find out how Jason adopts an experiment mindset to face his fears and experience life fully.   ---------   Hey Offbeat Family, I really appreciate you listening to this episode. I would love to hear more from you and what you think of the podcast. Remote work resources: https://www.theoffbeatlife.com/ Contact me: hello@theoffbeatlife.com   Show credits: Audio Engineer: Ben Smith - Ben@howtocreateapodcast.com

How many times have you struggled to make a decision in business out of fear that you'd make the wrong decision? What if instead you viewed every decision as an opportunity to learn rather than succeed or fail? Today on the show we unpack what it means to have an experimental mindset, how to foster that for yourself and within your team, and how it can free you from regret and help you make decisions that will help you learn and grow. Tuning in you'll get a taste of what we've been chatting about with our clients inside the Incubator; from how unrealistic expectations can warp your mindset, to how to figure out what you really want. We've seen so many of our clients struggle to react to both success and failure and as a result, we wanted to discuss examples of actionable strategies. Learn what you can implement within your company and your team so that if you're in a similar situation, you have strategies to help you adapt to any situation!  Thank you for listening! Please subscribe, rate and review The Strategy Hour Podcast on iTunes. Ratings and reviews are extremely helpful and greatly appreciated. For show notes, go to thestrategyhour.com.

This week, Dan Neumann is joined by three of his Agile colleagues, Erik Lindgren, Hal Hogue, and Adam Ulery.   In this episode, they discuss a common question with respect to Teams: Should we choose long-running Teams or dynamically formed ones? These four Agile colleagues share today valuable examples on how to form Teams and practical ways to help Teams succeed at delivering high-value products.   Key Takeaways Advantages of long-lived cross-functional Teams: Teams get to know each other better and build relationships. Teams have working agreements that make them more effective. Stability! Much less coordination is needed. Cons of long-lived Teams: There is not much flexibility. There is the risk of losing alignment with the rest of the organization. What to do when someone's professional goals push them in a different direction? A Team could be kept together as long as possible but eventually, changes will happen. We always need to look for ways for people to grow professionally. What to consider when Teams are changing. Keep the Team involved with the decisions that are being made. When Teams change, the Team might be needing a skill that isn't available. Change is inevitable, be prepared for them. What are the Team creation methods that work best? A formal Team-forming workshop sets up Teams nicely for success, developing shared values. Having a clear understanding of the type of work that the Team will be going after and based on that, finding the matched skills and competencies to that type of work. Allow self-organization to happen. Establish what is going to be created first in order to set up a Team; those Teams tend to grow organically. Choosing a Team's name can help people feel they belong and gives them the ability to become part of something bigger than themselves. Why not both long-run and dynamically formed Teams? Decide with your colleagues what can work better, encouraging self-organized Teams, since it is always positive to decide how the Team wants to be organized for the task in question. The core of Agility is focusing on individuals and interactions. When to form a new Team? If you have some special project or initiative that may require deep specialties in an area. Some Teams can come together to innovate in a particular area.   Mentioned in this Episode: Listen to “Podcast Ep. 5: Exploring an Experimental Mindset with Adam Ulery”   Team of Teams: New Rules of Engagement for a Complex World, by Gen. Stanley McChrystal, Tantum Collins, David Silverman, and Chris Fussell   Netflix Documentary, The Last Dance   Want to Learn More or Get in Touch? Visit the website and catch up with all the episodes on AgileThought.com! Email your thoughts or suggestions to Podcast@AgileThought.com or Tweet @AgileThought using #AgileThoughtPodcast!

Think like a scientist and approach your goal setting and habit building from an experimental mindset. Corresponding blog posts with all the links: https://monthlymethod.com/experimental-mindset/ Submit your questions: https://monthlymethod.com/contact/ Free Guide to Plan Your Week using Monthly Method principles - https://monthlymethod.com/guide/ Enroll in the next sprint: https://monthlymethod.com/enroll/ Support this podcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/monthly_method

In this conversation, Tom Henriksen talks aboutStarting a career in sales and then getting into techGetting into Agile, as part of a team adopting Agile practices, under a manager's guidanceHis experience of transitioning from an individual contributor to a managerUnderstanding the importance of human skills in agile teamsSome interesting learnings from patterns of behavior in teams, particularly those based on misconceptionsThe fact that humans are hard, code is easyLearning to ‘talk their terms' when connecting with executives, from the Dale Carnegie's bookThe importance of empathy, to be able to understand the other person's perspective and context and use appropriate language and create solutions that would meet their needsHow a visit to observe users for a day gave insights into the what their solution needs to doHaving an experimental mindsetThe importance of managing up, when it comes to adoption of agile practices in a teamWhy rinse-and-repeat would not work when applying what worked in one context identically in a different contextContext matters - and, like many agile coaches say, it depends.Stop selling agile, start aligningBeing aware of the dangers of gaming the system, when there is too much stress only on quantitative measurements and metricsThe trigger for Tom to launch the Agile and DevOps online summits, long before the pandemic hit and all conferences moved onlineHow he is able to bring in multiple perspectives by having track chairsSome experiments being tried in this year's summit, such as live sessions, gamification and the structure of the three days along the Shu Ha Ri themesSome changes or shifts in themes he has seen over the last 5 yearsHis thoughts on curating the content from the summit over the yearsHis suggestions for early stage and mid-career professionalsFor more details on the Agile Online Summit happening this year between October 25 and 27, you can visit https://agileonlinesummit.com/Tom Henricksen is a problem-solving technology professional. He has worked in various roles in technology for over twenty years. Tom has learned how to solve challenging issues in technology and lead technical teamsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomhenricksen/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TomHenricksen

Second, polymaths live experimentally. This isn't to say that they are always conducting traditional scientific experiments; rather, they're applying the scientific method by analyzing and investigating whatever they come across. They feel safe doing this and simply want to gain new information and sate their curiosity. It's almost like they cannot stop themselves from doing it. Questions or comments regarding the podcast? Email the show at HollinsPodcast@NewtonMG.com or let us know what you think at http://bit.ly/hollinscomment Hear it here - https://bit.ly/learnlikeapolymath Show notes and/or episode transcripts are available at https://bit.ly/self-growth-home Peter Hollins is a bestselling author, human ps ychology researcher, and a dedicated student of the human condition. Visit https://bit.ly/peterhollins to pick up your FREE human nature cheat sheet: 7 surprising psychology studies that will change the way you think. For narration information visit Russell Newton at https://bit.ly/VoW-home For production information visit Newton Media Group LLC at https://bit.ly/newtonmg #Experimentation #Polymath #AnExperimentalMindset #PeterHollins #TheScienceofSelf #LearnLikeaPolymath #RussellNewton #NewtonMG Experimentation,Polymath,An Experimental Mindset,Peter Hollins,The Science of Self,Learn Like a Polymath,Russell Newton,NewtonMG

Hello, vitality seekers today. I am super excited to have Vince Warnock as our guest. He is the podcast host of chasing the insights as well as has authored the book, chasing the insights. And of course, creator recently, I had the honor of being interviewed by Vince on his podcast. He doesn't know this, but I had a major aha moment during that interview, I found him to be such a delight, so genuine fun and kind. Plus he had an amazing entrepreneurial spirit. It was truly contagious. Our time on his podcast totally confirmed for me that I was truly in the right space for business purposes, because if I could hang out with people like Vince, I knew this wasn't even going to be considered work. It was almost like a proclamation. I had arrived where I belong after years of searching and it felt like home. I could not be more genuine when I say it is an honor to have him on the Vitality Feed. He's a beacon of light for the marketer, the entrepreneur and small business owner, as he offers the insights from the best gurus in the industry, giving his listeners the unfair advantage. I am thrilled to announce, he is also a speaker as part of my team for the Home Office Hackathon, which will be going live July 28th through the 30th. We have an incredible lineup of dynamic experts from around the globe. If you work from home, you don't want to miss it. And don't worry. If you can't make the dates, we're offering an all access pass with unlimited viewing summit highlights, plus bonus videos. And now please help me welcome Vince Warnock. Welcome to the Vitality Feed Vince. Oh, my goodness, Caroline, that at first of all, it is an absolute honor to be here. Second. I'm now hiring you to be my hypeman. You are going to read my bio. I keep listening to it. Go. Damn. I want this guy. That's awesome. Oh my goodness. I'm so happy to have you here. I am doing well very well. In fact, um, yeah, especially as I get to chat with you, I know we're doing a podcast, but I feel like it's just us catching up. So sorry to all your listeners, this is just you. And, um, tell our listeners a little bit about your background, maybe where you grew up, your education, things like that. No, one's going to want to hear about me growing up. Cause I, I grew up in a not very nice environment. So I grew up in abuse and I grew up in poverty, but broke through all of that and kind of found myself on my career path where I thought I knew what I was going to do. Um, I was going to be an electronics, computer and software engineer. I was going to be the guy that made all the gadgets for James Bond or Batman then discovered that not actually real. That was a shock to me. And then, uh, so I trained in all three disciplines and thought, right, this is it's going to be my, my amazing career. My first job was literally, they locked me in a lab with a long lab coat. I had long hair at the time as well. Uh, tied up in a ponytail is not the greatest look and, and along goatee now, now I'm completely bald, but my job was designing, um, incubators and plant growth chambers. And I thought this is going to be the dream job, you know, like everyone wanted this. Um, so. Yup. Fast forward a few years in that role. And I realized I am insanely bored and I am completely unfulfilled. Uh, and then that's when I kind of had an epiphany , because I realized I'm super passionate about technology, right , ever since I was a kid, I built my first kind of electronic circuit when I was four, a built my first crystal radio with no schematics when I was seven and computer systems with some of the first year of a personal computer systems when I was 11. So I'm like, okay, this is something I'm passionate about. But then I realized that's not the part I'm passionate about. I'm passionate about how technology helps people. And it's the people element that was more important to me. So that's when I realized I need to make a change. I need to shift to that. Um, so you've got more into like leadership and management and things like that. And then starting to understand people and find out why they tick and, and why they behave the way they do, why they do certain actions and don't do other actions or those kinds of things. Uh, and then I kind of, my career then took some weird turns. It kind of in and out of both entrepreneurship and, uh, corporate culture, uh, then found myself doing my dream job. Oh my goodness. So ever since I built that crystal radio, when I was seven, I wanted to work on radio and I'm like, that's a, this is like, these people are paid to play music. To joke around and to talk to people and like, how could this not be everyone's dream job? Uh, and then I actually secured their time, ended up becoming, um, one of the announcers, one of the only, or announces at our top radio station here in New Zealand. And, and it was almost everything I expected. Like it was an incredibly fun job. I really, really enjoyed my time there. But the one thing I didn't count on was they pay so poorly, like really, really poorly. And I'm like, I can't live off of this. This is insane.  So I had to make some changes there as well. And, and that's when I realized there's this convergent point like this convergence, which is this love of technology and this love of people. So how technology helped people and how people's behavior work, the kind of middle ground there as marketing is digital marketing. And I kind of fell into that accidentally. I'm doing some projects for some people turns out I was really, really good at it because of my kind of dual careers. Um, and then that launched the next stage of my career. So I was in and out of marketing roles in corporations then doing my own startups, um, created a number of companies and sold them. And then finally credited by the huge company that we had, uh, with a co-founder called Common Ledger. I went through a crazy four year journey. I think it was with that. We raised a million dollars worth of seed funding, a million dollars a day round. And, and then we had grown really big and I realized, I'm done. Uh, I don't want to be in that anymore. I'm not feeling as fulfilled and I'm loving it. There was so much tension in the organization that, which, you know, just is natural when you're an early stage startup. So I decided that said, I'm going to move on. Um, and then we realized there were a whole pile of people wanting to buy the business. So we went through an acquisition and then I joined the team at Cigna as the Chief Marketing Officer. And you'll notice the cycle here to Carolyn joined the air. Absolutely loved it. Took that company from, uh, like from basically no online sales through to that being a huge portion of what they do and doubling the revenue of the organization. So it had a massive impact on there. Um, and then went, yeah, I'm feeling unfulfilled and most of it was. The fact that as a C-suite executive, you are quite far removed from the impact that you're having. So you're quite far removed from people and that's something that I need to be around. I need people that's part of my personality. It's part of why I do what I do as part of what motivates me. And so I kind of had the easiest, hard decision in my life, um, kind of end of 2019. I decided to have a conversation with the CEO and say, yes, I know things are going well. And yes, I know we've had massive wins and yes, I know you guys pay me an obscene amount of money, but I need to move on. And she goes, what are you going to move on to? You know what I mean? I'm going to write my next book. Did you wait, but wait, you're leaving all of this to go and basically not get paid for anything. That's right. You guys. Okay. See, she even offered me psychological help. She's like, do I need to get a counselor for you? Don't need to get a psychologist. I'm like, come on. I know what I'm doing. I said there a lot once I know that this is the right thing to do, it's unfair on me, but it's also unfair on all of you if I don't do it because the moment I realized I don't want to be here. I shouldn't be here. I should be doing something else. I'm not going to be turning up as my best self. Um, so she agreed. It was awesome. We had a really nice farewell. So January, 2020, that's a pre COVID days. I was out of there. I thought I'm going to be a full-time author. I'm going to write my next book. Uh, got bored within a week. So that became two books at the same time. And then I thought about I'm going to launch my podcast, but then of course COVID happened through all of this. And that was when I was dealing with all these different entrepreneurs, you know, for my book, talking to them and they said, look, Vince. We would love to continue helping you, but we're kind of freaking out, like all of our revenue streams have dried up. I was dealing with a range of businesses from the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, where some of them broke some water. Some of them, some of them weren't online businesses and everything, and they go, we've got no customers right now. We've got no way of making any kind of income, but we've got all the same overheads. We don't even know if we're going to be in business in the next two months. That was a kick in the gut. Because these entrepreneurs in general are an amazing breed of people. I just love entrepreneurs so much, but I just looked at them and went, these are just awesome people who really want to make a difference. They really want to impact others and they're questioning whether or not they're going to be around. So I had to shift it up at that point and went okay. I currently, I can't let this go. I need to be, I need to come alongside you. I need to help you. Let me, let me, and basically to give you some guidance, we can turn this around and was very fortunate. We had absolutely no casualties through all of that. Through all the businesses I was dealing with, they all became profitable very quickly. Very impressive. Oh my goodness. I was very fortunate. That's not always going to happen, right. There are going to be times where there will be a casually through, you know, circumstance and things like that. But I was very blessed through this to go, okay, well, everybody survived. Three of them actually doubled their revenue, which didn't surprise me because they really didn't know what they had fully there anyway. And there was a massive opportunity they were missing in amongst it.  And weirdly one of my, my strange superpowers is going okay. Here's your business, but there's a secondary business based around this. That's sitting right there that you're missing. There's a whole revenue stream. That's right there that you're missing and I can see it so clearly. Um, but then I had my little star pupils, um, and they hate me calling them this, but there's these two little old ladies in Melbourne. So they had a knitting cafe business and. Uh, every revenue stream dried up and I said, right, I'm going to help you get alongside. You taught them. E-commerce taught them how to set up the site themselves. So they did it. They thought they couldn't. In fact, I had to bribe them. I said, look, give me a weekend. I'm going to teach you everything about e-commerce. I'm going to teach you how to set up a website and how to, how to get all your products on there. And if we fail, I'll buy you both a bottle of gin and they, so they came along the ride, they launched the website on the Monday. Um, went out to their community and things and told everybody about this, what they didn't anticipate was they, they thought they had this niche little business in Melbourne, right. And then the area around them, where, where people would come from and come and use these services and learn to nerds and buy their supplies and have a glass of wine and all that cool stuff. But actually what they didn't realize is most of Australia was waiting desperately for what they had to offer. So as soon as they did that, they ended up tripling their revenue and I'm like, man, so they pivoted their whole business down. I'm so proud of them. Um, so that made beautiful, maybe cut out, completely shift my focus. I went, this is it. I can't like, how, how did I not do this anymore? This is my new business. Now I need to just help as many entrepreneurs as I can. So that made me an accidental coach. I call it, um, and then launch my group program. And now I get to talk to you. So there you go. Here's my whirlwind journey. After after that, I'm even more excited to talk to you because , you, you have definitely some wonderful characteristics that I am lacking. So that is fantastic. I agree with the timing on their business, like, I don't think it could have been more impeccable with COVID . It was perfect timing, but what a great job to have is does it help people and make them prosper? That's just so beautiful. Well, it is the most fulfilling thing I've ever done.  I know that. Yeah, timing's important and everything is in its own time and things, but part of me is going, wow, why didn't I do this five years ago? Like this would have been insane. I'd just be so fulfilled. But of course the timing wasn't right there. Exactly.  It does take sometimes a lot of entrepreneurs and I find that they  reach their goal and then they're unfulfilled. They it's like almost like the hunt they get the game and then they're like, Okay, what's the next . Cause that is the thrill for us is get there. I know you offer a masterclass called the ultimate landing page. Who is this for and what is the offer? This, this is for anybody who is being completely misled. No, one of the things I noticed, the more entrepreneurs I talked to they, like, there's this common misconception around landing pages. Like everyone feels the pressure. They've gotta be, you know, like if you were to print them out, they'd be 40 pages long and you've got to have all the social proof on there. You've got to have all this different copy and you've got to make sure that the offer is only at the end. So they've got to scroll through this, all this information, or they think that, you know, it has to have my entire life story on there. There's just all these misconceptions and all this pressure from people going, I don't know how to do a landing page. I'm just going to copy what other people do. But what they, miss is actually a landing page is really, really simple, right? There's just a few kind of core elements that you need to make sure are aligned. Uh, in fact, and I said to them in the masterclass itself, we gave some examples in there and I'm going okay. If you want to know how long the landing page should be, the answer is as long as it needs. And by that, I mean, I've seen landing pages that if you printed them would be 40 pages long, they have incredibly high conversion rate and they're landing pages that are literally a couple of paragraphs and a call to action. And they speak directly to the need of the person that's on their page. And when you can do that, when you can achieve that and you speak directly to the need, the conversion rates really, really high. So I teach them how to actually understand what the customers actually need when they get to that page. So how to tap into, like, we call it the Bridge Method, but it's how to go from , like coming to your own conclusion as a customer of where you are now, and then painting this preferred future, getting them to actually imagine what life is like, if they didn't have the need or the gap will the, the, you know, the thing that they're missing right now, if they had that fulfilled, what would that look like? If you're gonna achieve that on a landing page, you are 90% of the way there. Because the moment you do that, they go, I don't want to go back to my current state.  I want this now! Kind of helping them have, find their own aha moment and pulling out the confusion. A confused mind, always leads to no, you don't make the sale. So make it simple and precise and to that customer, that makes really good sense. And then sales would go up because of that. Yep. Yeah. I'm all about,  kind of, yeah, generating and converting leads, but in a ethical way. And that's really, really important as well. Right? Some of the stuff I teach has never, ever mislead people. You actually have a duty of care as an entrepreneur, right and this is a bit, a lot of people forget is it's not just about making money. It's not just about selling. It's actually about helping other people. And if you can actually come from that framework, if you can come from that way of thinking and go, okay, there's all these people out there that just really need my help. And whatever it is I have with it's a product, that's an offering. It's a service. That is the thing that they need of, you can come from that point of view of just wanting to help people. Then you'll never get into unethical marketing techniques, but also you are going to find you deeply connect with these people you are going to like, okay. There's a contrary kind of view in the market. So a lot of particularly digital marketers, um, a lot of my peers in the industry. Uh, I don't agree with, we have, we have lovely arguments sometimes when we're on stage. Um, I so want to name some of these people, but I can't, because that would be terrible, but there's a pretty high profile digital marketers out there. They're well-known and we, we often speak at the same conferences or we used to, when you could actually do that. And one of the things we would find is people get confused, cause they're up there going, it's all about trying to get people to take that first action. So charge them as early as possible and then take them up the value ladder and continually charged more or more and more and more and more. And I'm going wrong. Like that is our way to look at it. Sure. But what you're doing when you do that, as you're creating a transaction, you're going, okay. There is an individual out there I'm convincing you, or even slightly manipulating you or slightly misleading you into making a transaction. And then I'm going to try and squeeze you for more and more and more to take you out the value letter. But actually what I teach is don't focus on that at all, focus on impact. And that means, and this is the bit that tends to get the backup of a lot of my peers. This means giving away as much as possible. This means, this is why I do the master classes. This is why I do all these things. Add as much value as you can to them for as, as much as you can. And then the money follows. And this is a bit people forget, like instead of creating a transaction, instead of me going, okay, I'm going to sell a course on landing pages, for example, instead of going right, I'm going to sell a course on landing pages. I can make it low ticket, and then there's going to be a bump offer and a couple of upsells in there as well. And then I'm going to Mack it to them. We put them in a neutral cycles that we continually continually get all this money from them, you know, when they convert. But the reality is I'm doing this transaction and if they like it, they're happy and they might buy from you again. If they don't like it, they won't buy from you again. Right. Whereas what I'm doing by giving away as much as possible for free by actually helping people and focusing on adding value to them. You don't create a transaction, you create a fan, you create somebody that goes, I've already seen how much Vince has impacted me and my business. I've already seen what he's done for me. So now I want to be a part of that world. I want to stay in that with, oh, that's a selling something now. Okay. I I'm in, oh, he's selling something else. You know what? I'm in on that as well, because they know they're going to get the value from you. Right. That there's a huge differentiation between the two. I love that. Creating a fan, creating a customer for life.  I don't know if you follow Gary V. He is of that same accord there. He believes in giving it all away for free and to just make such a following that you can't be ignored , because you're, you're helping and offering so much. She didn't align with that. We're very much in align with those values too. I definitely believe that.  It just feels good on the receiving end of that when you're the customer and when you feel good, you're more likely to pursue things further down the line, and they say it takes a lot more money to find a new customer than it does to keep the old one. I have a history of superior customer service. So that has been bred into me. So that will work. I knew this is why you and I get on so well, it's like, this is a no brainer. We're cut from the same cloth. Yeah, we really are. Um, I know one of my favorite subjects is about mindset. In your book, Chasing The Insights, you talk about the Experimental Mindset. Can you explain what that is and how it can benefit people? Yeah, sure. Well, I'll take you back to one of my previous startups. So when we launched Common Ledger, we knew this was going to be a really big deal. I was in a very well paying job at the time. My wife Leanne, was in two very well paying jobs as well. So between us, we, we had a pretty good living. We got two kids and I saw this opportunity there and my co-founder keep coming at me going Vince. I think this is big. I think this is big. So we did our market research for almost a year. Like no joke, like almost a year, we were just interviewing accountants, finding out more information about what their needs were. And the more we did this, the more we realized we can't ignore this. This is here. So I remember we have this joke Leanne, and anytime we go to a kebab shop, we've got to have a cabana. We ended up making major life decisions. So now we avoid kebabs shops, but we went to go and get a kebab. We was sitting there and I said to her, you know what? I think the time's right. There's this huge opportunity that it's going to mean six months of no income. Right, because we won't have any money to start with. We're just going to be using our own savings to pay ourselves, to make sure that, you know, we can put food on the table, but it's going to be six months before I can raise a seed round and get a million dollar in. So we can, we have a bit of roadmap. Right. Um, and she was like, oh, interesting timing. I said, why? And she goes, she was trained as early childcare teacher, but she had this passion to help people with addictions. And she was like, always kind of on the edge of going let's make the leap and go in and retrained at a later stage of life, learn this so I can help people, but all the self-doubt of, but can I learn because I hated school anyway, maybe I'm beyond the point of learning something new and she finally got into the right head space and went now's the time to do it. And it was the exact time I was leaving mine. So we were leaving all of our well-paying jobs and realize we will have absolutely no income for six months. And we thought what we're going to do this. And we did it anyway. It was a quote from her. She just turned around and said, yeah, but when did we never landed on our feet? And I went, that's a really good point. And to know where together in this, and we've got each other's back. I mean that no matter what came to us, we can always deal with this. But then you approach a company like that and you're like, right. We're building this company and we have no money, none at all. So how do we market ourselves? And I realize, yeah, I'm used to the corporate environment where you would throw money at a problem and you go, okay, I need to, I need you to throw money at this, build an audience and get ourselves out there. So we had to get really good at some guerrilla tactics and, and low cost things. And one of the things I had to do was bring in experimentation. And it was, if we're going to try something, I'm not going to throw money at it. I want to be able to try it first, see if I can prove or disprove my hypothesis. And then from there, um, if it works, we will then put more money behind it. So that was how we grew commonly that we got a massive response from there. Um, and then I started refining that. And even when I joined Cigna, I thought I'm going to bring this experimentation approach in here. But the problem with experimentation is it's great on paper, but you get in your own head. The moment you start doing experiments, you start doubting yourself and you're like, well, it's not going the way I wanted. So therefore you look for every aspect to try and prove that it worked. And you see this in marketing a lot, a lot of marketers will go, right? I'm putting a campaign out there. It fails miserably, but you don't want to admit it. So you look at every vanity metric that you can find every way to kind of prove that, Hey, this was a good idea. I'm not a complete failure. But then if they do that, they're missing the entire point of an experiment. And this is where the experimental mindset comes in because an experiment is not around success or failure. In fact, there is no failure in experiment. There is proving or disproving a hypothesis. And if you can approach not only your business, but life like this, we can go, you know what? I have a hypothesis. I'm going to test this. If it doesn't work or it doesn't, you know, if it just proves the hypothesis, then I'm just going to try something different. Uh, and just this continual kind of, um, journey of, of improvement, you know, like we call it the 1% improvement every day, 1% better, 1% better, 1% better. Um, so I realized if I'm going to be teaching people, this I'm going to be bringing them on the journey of experimentation. I need them to understand what the mindset is going to be, that they have to cultivate. So this is like building fortitude in your life. You know, knowing that things aren't necessarily going to go the way you expect and how to keep pressing in, even when you're doing that, um, how to remove your own cognitive bias, um, how to get rid of expectation, bias, clustering, illusions, confirmation, bias, all these kinds of things that affect the way we look at an experiment, but then came the biggest one, which was curiosity. And the thing I realized is the things that make experiments successful is the gold that you can extract from them, the insights that you can right now, you can drag out of them. And the only way to do that is to get insanely curious. So, and in fact, we, this is the thing that really interests me, we are born curious, like every kid, every parent knows it's like, all you ever hear from your kids is why, why, why, why, why to the point where it's really frustrating. So we're born into this world. Super curious. We want information, we want to understand things, but then it gets beaten out of us. Um, hopefully not literally beaten out of you in the sense that you get to the point where you're like, if I keep asking these questions, people are going to judge me. Or people are going to go, oh, but you should know that. Or you don't know that. Oh, well that's embarrassing. So we get fearful of actually asking questions because we think people will think, we don't know what we're doing. And so then we get less than this curious, but I'm saying it should be the counter that we should be comfortable being the dumbest person in the room. We should be comfortable going. I don't care what people think of me. I need to ask questions about this. And honestly, if you can cultivate that curiosity, not only will experimentation work, I genuinely do believe this. You will just be a better human being. Like imagine, you could get to the point where, you know, you disagree with someone politically. There's a good, good current example in the world. Right now. There's so much political division. Um, but what happens is we go, you don't agree with me, so therefore I'm shutting you out, but you don't agree with me. So I'm pushing you away rather than go. You don't agree with me. Let's find out why that is. Let's find out what your world's like, like, what are your fears? What are your concerns? What are the things that are feeding your decision process? Like why do you behave the way that you do? Why you like the things that you like, why do you side with those particular people? Because if you can get inside the head of somebody else, if you can get insanely curious about them, you remove those barriers. It's it's one of the weirdest things. We had an election over here. So we have a, we have a pretty moderate government in New Zealand. Like most people see us from a phone and they think Coke. Yeah. Cool. We've got it really good over here. We don't have much extremist politicians. We've had one who, most politicians here are actually pretty good people. We had one who was a bit of a moron, but he, uh, he's no longer a politics, some quite happy there. Uh, he was just really self-centered and, and racist, which I just do not like. Right. Um, and so for most of the part there, they're pretty good. Right? All the politicians here. But I went, I remember going to the shop and I walked into the shop and I was buying something and the guy had the radio on and the policies that we had at the time, it was one of our previous prime ministers came on and he was saying something to the gun shop goes, ah, and he turns off the radio and he goes, I hate them man, so much. And I was like, oh, have you met him? Have you. And he goes, no. I was like, oh, but how do you hate this guy? And he goes, oh, I just do. I hate him so much. And I said, why? And he gets he's so condescending. He thinks he's better than me. He always talking down and I was like, But you've never met them. Yep. So how do you think he, how do you know he thinks he's better than you are? You can just tell. And I realized at that point, you don't understand this man. I'd made our prime minister many, many times I've met most of our political posts. I trained a lot of the PR people, a lot of the marketing people that worked for government. Um, and I was like, actually, they're all pretty decent human beings. I don't understand you how you could hate somebody that you've never met before. Right. And that's when I realized there's this lack of curiosity there, because when you know someone it's very hard to then hate them, you can hate the behavior, but actually you realize that we're all human beings, we're all flawed. We all have our own insecurities and our own fears and all that kind of thing as well. So. Yeah, it does. So that was the kind of Experimental Mindset, which then rolled into a whole way of life, basically.  I do find that to be true with people. When, if you just can hold your tongue and let them speak their mind. And go in with an open mind, first of all, you'll learn something. Um, and then secondly, who knows they could change your opinion or your mindset about something. And not that that's their intention, but to at least, you know, empathy is the number one emotion that people are starved from. And just to listen to people is in itself a gift and it who knows it might impart something that you hadn't thought about before.   It  doesn't matter anymore how smart you are. It's if you can, you can be creative enough or  curious enough, you can find answers. You can find people and get things moving and solved and that kind of thing. Oh my goodness. It can, it can even go further care on it because,  if you look, there's a whole pile of studies around IQ,  and ETQ and all the different, all the different cues, there's even a CQ curiosity question. One of the things. Yeah, that's, it's the whole number or letter than Q, um, community is very divided anyway. So most of them don't agree with each other, but one thing they did find was they did a huge amount of study around young people, like in kindergarten saying play schools. And one of the things they found was. The children that were more curious in the class to coach children to ask more questions, their IQ tended to be higher than the other kids in the class. So IQ, it's a flawed method, but it's basically just a measure of intelligence, a measure of your way of problem solving, like your ability to be problem-solve. Yeah. So, what they discovered was they, they found this connection between the two. Now it's not causative. They're not saying that if you're curious, you're going to be more intelligent. And they're not saying if you're more intelligent, you're going to be more curious. But what they said is this co this correlative link between the two things. Now, one of the things we know is you can't really increase your IQ. You kind of can, and that you can keep training your brain and training your brain. But the reality is it's very hard to increase your IQ. That there's your problem solving ability. Right? However, we do know that you can increase your curiosity. Yeah. So at a base level, if you go, and like, if you just start asking questions about everything, have you started just getting insanely curious and getting past this whole fear we have of being judged, then you can increase your curiosity. Now, if you, if we know that there's this correlative link between curiosity and intelligence. And we know that it's hard to increase the intelligence, but easy to increase your curiosity. Why wouldn't you want to do that? It makes you smarter. That's what I'm trying to say. Like it's not causative, but it will increase your, like, it'll increase your IQ. There's also a study at there's called the marshmallow study. I don't know if you've ever heard of that. And they took the kids and they made the kids who delayed eating the marshmallows, got two versus one. And they, they found later in life, the kids who were patient enough, who, who could wait for their reward, ended up doing much better in life, just because of their personality and disposition.  I know during our Home office Hackathon, you'll be speaking on the term Imposter Syndrome.  How would you define that? Well, basically, if you're an entrepreneur, you probably have it. So imposter syndrome is that feeling that, that, that kind of fear of being exposed and the sense of, um, you think that everyone's going to see through you, everyone's going to realize you have no idea what you're doing and they're going to call you on it. Like there's fear of being judged. Um, and there's studies studies are kind of showing, I don't know when they'd coined the term. I remember the research piece by, it can be what year it was, but there was a study into particularly high-performing woman. And how they perceive themselves. And, and I hope our research has been done around, you know, like if you, you know, if you're a person that suffers from imposter syndrome and something good happens to you, you think it's coincidental versus somebody who just blindly goes into things that something good happens, you go, yeah, that must be because of my own ability. So it's that sense of that feeling that you're going to be called out that sense and feeling you don't belong, that you're getting recognition, you don't deserve. Uh, and what the research has shown is I think it's a minimum of 72% of humans deal with imposter syndrome at some point in their life. Right that 72%. But when you boil that down into  subsections like, like entrepreneurs, for example, that number is basically 99%. And the 1% of sociopath, we don't really care about them. Amanda sociopath. Cause I definitely went through this myself and I.  You know, I pivoted a few times and it was definitely that imposter syndrome is you start having those negative conversations in your head yesterday, I spoke to someone and then they called it the monkeys in your mind. And I'm like, yeah, that's, that's pretty much it. Yeah, it really is. Yeah. But for me, what cured it for me was that they said that everyone has a unique message and that your customer needs to hear your message said in your way, because it'll align with them directly. And that's exactly what they need to hear at that time. So I never really thought about it like that. That before. And that really helped me get over that and give me enough courage to say, to take it on, but it is, I do find it's it's especially an entrepreneur's term. Um, but I think a lot of people do do have that. I have children who are all going out into the adulting world, getting the big girl jobs, and I'm sure I know my nurses. Daughter. I, I know she feels this because the COVID has eliminated a lot of her practical studies, so I'm sure she's feeling this.  Okay, Vince,  that was fantastic. Um, I would like to know one last question. My signature question. If there is one thing in this world that you could eliminate forever, what would it be and why? And it doesn't have to relate to anything we talked about. I was going to say calories so I could eat what I want, but I'm going to go with that one. Yeah. Um, for me it would be, and this is going to sound so cliche, but it'll be division. And this goes back to the curiosity thing I talked about. Um, one of the things that we like, the world that we live in now, it's just so heightened compared to what I grew up with. You know, like in my day, when you were younger, if you disagreed with somebody, you couldn't go online and do that. Cause we didn't have online. You actually had to have a conversation and you were in a group of people. And if you disagreed, you would get counter views, you would get people, you basically had a conversation and you could disagree with someone and still be friends with them. You can disagree with someone and still hang out with them and everything. It just means you disagreed. Um, but in this day and age, what we've had, what we have now is we have all these bubbles. We live in these little, little, you know, kind of, um, areas where we just hear from other people like us, these little echo chambers. So I want to eliminate those echo chambers. I want to just get us back to having been able to have a civil conversation. So in other words, a conversation with somebody disagrees with you, but you can actually learn more about them. And a good example of this for me is, so this is why I talk a lot about curiosity, Carolyn, I'm really, really big on making sure you understand why people do what they do. And for me, the best example of this was growing up. So as I said, I grew up in abuse. I grew up in an abusive household, um, for that. So for me, school was a happy place. It was the place I would escape to cause, uh, you know, you wouldn't get beaten at school. So that was a good thing. But then at age 11, I discovered I went to what we call an intermediate school. So it's like a transitional school for two years before you go off to high school. And I'm like, right. Okay. I get there. And I discovered something I'd never seen at school before a bully. And I'm like, okay. And this guy made my life hell for two years. For two years of my life, I had a bully at home. I had a bully at school, so I had no safe space whatsoever. I was just anxious, Rick. And then we got to, you know, bout to turn age 13 and we're going off to high school and the got the best news ever. He was going to a different high school to me. I was like, yes, I'm free. This is going to be awesome. So, so we parted ways. He went to his high school. I went to mine. Uh, and at that point I decided I'm sick of being a victim. I'm sick of people being able to abuse me and being able to, you know, hurt me. So I learned martial arts and boxing. I kind of threw myself into this. I studied non-stop every day for years and we got to the last year of high school before we go off to university. And yeah. Uh, I know I found out something, he got transferred to our school, so he got transferred from his school to ours and I'm like, oh my goodness. Now I grew up on 80 movies. I grew up on all these things where, you know, there's the underdog and Sunday, he comes down at the top and everyone's cheering. Yeah. It was like, this is going to be the moment I've been waiting for late. I'm going to finally not be the victim. I'm going to come out on top. Um, so I built this up in my mind and I saw him walk past me one day and night. Here's the opportunity. So yelled his name. Few explosives in there as well. We were, you know, we were teenagers, uh, and then he turned around, he did what he normally did. He turned around his struts over to me and he took a swing, but this time he missed and then he took another swing and I'm like, ah, he must again, in my mind, it's this eighties movie playing out, you know? Exactly. So finally I thought I'm going to end this bam. And I hit him and he went down and he went out like a light. And I'm just so anxious now going yep. Here it comes here, comes this elated, feeling nothing. Actually, I don't feel good at all. And I'm like, what just happened? I don't, I don't understand this. You know, like every movie lied to me essentially, but I ended up in the principal's office, which is what happened when you fight, you know? And the principal pulled me aside and he look Vince, do you know why he got transferred to our school? And you know, I'm, I'm a 17 year old trying to be cool. And I'm like, oh, thank you. I thank you. And he goes, well, you should care. And then he told me his story and he said, this boy had been abused since he was a baby. Like his father had beaten him and his sister and the mother consistently for years and years and years. And it got so bad. It got to the point where the father beat the mother so badly. She actually passed away in front of the kids. So basically they saw their dad murdered the mum. And at that point, I'm not feeling great by the way. Um, and then he said, so what's happened is the founder's going to jail. Rightfully so. And the kids have been put into the care of their auntie and uncle, which is why they're now coming here. And I said, yeah, but I didn't know that. And the principal said, yeah, I wouldn't expect you to, but I would have thought of all the people that would understand what he's gone through. You would have been the one. And that was the point where I realized. Um, I wasn't the hero in this story at all. I was the, I was the bad guy. I was the one person that had the opportunity to try and understand him, understand where he's coming from. And it may never have worked. I may have gone on-site him. And he still tried to beat me up, you know, but the reality is I could have made an impact on this guy's life and I didn't. Okay. I need to, first of all, I need to stop watching eighties movies. They all lie to us. They're rubbish. Like any movie that tells you the victim comes out on top by beating the other person, is wrong? Yeah. But it also made me realize I need to get so insanely curious about people. I need to get closer to people. Not further away. I need to try and understand why they're doing what they're doing, because we are all the same. Right. Everyone's one stupid decision away from doing something dumb, but everyone's insecure. Everyone's flawed. We're just these human beings, these meat sacks on this world that are completely utterly flawed. So why not actually like help each other rather than just create division? It's a choice, right? It's truly a conscious choice. I listened to a lot of , podcasts  and I heard, I remember exactly where it was, I was literally rounding the corner to pull in the driveway where I work. And they said, no matter what the person is doing at the time, whether it's beating their child or doing something terribly wrong, they're literally doing the best that they can do because of the events in their life, the circumstances, how their mind has been programmed. And I stopped and thought about that. And it was a very empathetic way to think about that for somebody, but it, it made you appreciate the differences out there and made you stop and say, don't judge others because you haven't walked their path. Well, you were really young, that's an incredible story. And I absolutely love that. All right. Tell us where our listeners can get ahold of you.   And. Oh, man. I, I make it super easy. So,  everything is at the one place. Just go to chasing the insights.com. It's the home of my podcasts, where I have amazing guests like Caroline, funny enough. Um, but it's also,  where I have my book and where you can find me on all social media platforms. So everyone can connect with me. Just connect with me everywhere. Like seriously, I never turned people down unless you spam me. Then block. Yeah. But generally connect with me on social, but also on chasingtheinsights.com. You'll see , like I said before, I like to give away stuff for free. I like to help people as much as I can. So you've got the option on there to book a free strategy call with me where I'll give you a huge amount of clarity over any marketing issue and any entrepreneurial issue that you're struggling with. Um, don't struggle alone. There's a whole pile of people in this world that genuinely want you to succeed. I know Carolyn's one of those, I'm one of those. So, so jump on a free strategy call and I will help you get that clarity. You are just an inspiration and I am just so, so happy and thrilled that you have crossed my path and I get to continue my entrepreneurial journey with you. I absolutely love spending every minute of this podcast with you. Um, and I hope our listeners reach out. I will absolutely put that contact information in the show notes and I can't wait to continue to work with you. And I thank you from the bottom of my heart for everything that you have offered already. Um, it's been invaluable. You've been so patient with me and given so much already, and this is just the beginning, so that's fantastic. And I do, I greatly appreciate it. Lastly, I just remind our listeners to remember that "Life has no remote so get up and change it yourself." I love that. 

If you're working for a body whose main mission is to develop a Georgia where schools and communities pursue breakthrough success for all students regardless of race, geography, or family income, you’re right in thinking that support for diversity, equality and inclusion (DEI) is going to be a big priority. Then the pandemic hit—and here in Season 6 of ‘Learning Is The New Working’ we’re looking into the impact of the global health crisis on the future of work and Workplace Learning. So this week we get a chance to not just do that, but also to see some real pandemic-inspired L&D innovation, too, as we hear from the great people over at non-profit Glisi, the Georgia Leadership Institute for School Improvement. Set up by former state Governor Roy Barnes with a mission to uplift school leaders, transform mindsets and action, create vibrant cultures of innovation and build excellent and equitable schools, Glisi is there to help: so get ready to hear how it did so, with something different—the use of bite-sized, 1200-character max text-based learning… and all this in the crazy first months of the ‘rona, as part of a drive to help teach thousands of educators and managers at the State’s Forsyth County school district get to grips with what can be a very challenging topic for L&D (and users). So listen as the organization’s Senior Program Director Letishia Seabrook Jones and her colleague the Associate Director of Organizational Effectiveness, Kasey Wood, share with us the practicalities of working with this unique L&D tech, which is from Arist, which develops text message-based learning that is strives to be as accessible, engaging, and super effective as possible. These practicalities include working with that very tight constraint of 1200 characters, as well as: a core design principle—let’s get through all of this course, even if it makes you uncomfortable; a great project motivator—How do we keep people uplifted during this year with so much this past year, with so much change, and so much unknown? what it’s like to build two new courses from scratch, remotely. over 10 days each; going from creating hours or days of content to something much smaller; how text-based content met the need for steady light touches in the flow of work to coach people when maybe they couldn't dedicate 30 minutes, but they could dedicate five or 10, maybe even 15; how useful the supplier’s guidance was on things feedback on basics of instruction, use of emojis, and where to put links so that they weren't missed; and much more.

Oftentimes, when organizations bring on Agile Coaches, they want to be (or expect to be) taken on a linear path with Agility (AKA point A to point B). However, there is a lot that happens along an Agile transformation journey that interrupts this path of “point A to point B.”   Today’s guest, Quincy — a Director in AgileThought’s Innovate Line of Service — refers to these as “excursions.” In an Agile transformation journey, it is crucial to explore these excursions and understand all of the pieces that you should put into place to ensure their success.   In this conversation, Quincy explains what excursions are, why they are important; the different types of excursions that can occur during an Agile journey; the key areas of sustainability, consistency, competency, and maintenance in an excursion; and the important pieces that leadership support and communication play in an excursion’s success.   Key Takeaways What are “excursions?” Excursions are detours that happen along an Agile transformation journey These excursions often involve many different facets An excursion could be taking a business outcome (such as “better speed to market”) and getting more specific and nuanced on it An excursion is still part of the transformation journey (so you can’t isolate it from the work that the teams are doing) Several excursions can occur at the same time What are some of the types of excursions that can occur during an Agile journey? Clarity of desired business outcomes Better speed to market Introducing a new product Introducing a product that you already have into a new market Quincy’s advice about excursions: Sometimes you may have to bring on a new expert during an excursion that specializes in that specific area and bring them into the journey (in cases like these, it is important to acknowledge your and your team’s knowledge barriers) Really consider who should be a part of each particular excursion There are many aspects to the Agile transformation and many different types of excursions — it is important to not box things in and know that it is a multifaceted journey Advice around the Agile approach to excursions: Sometimes Scrum might not always be the best fit for your organizations so it is important to have an excursion that serves as an evaluation to figure out which Agile approach is best for the team/s (and which approach is best where — because there may be more than one approach [alternatively, agility might not even be the right approach at all]) Excursions should also be taken to discover which methodologies and frameworks should be used Some organizations, when they’re new in their transformation journey, tend to make assumptions rather than take excursions (but it’s crucial as an organization to take excursions because no two companies are alike and one company’s approach may not work for yours) Experimentation in and of itself can become an excursion Areas of sustainability, consistency, competency, and maintenance in an excursion: In aiming towards sustainability, it is important to ask whether or not you have put the pieces of the puzzle in place so that the system can run on its own You can’t reach sustainability without consistency It’s important to have a consistent definition of “done” (if every team has a different definition, it will be hard to consistently deliver quality) Leverage the strengths that are already within the teams and company Though the maintenance is part of the journey, it’s more so post-journey and is becoming more and more critical for companies to do Maintenance is really critical — Ask yourself: How do you maintain what has now been transformed? How do you maintain the culture that you’ve now built, the consistency that you have put in place, and keep a freshness to the cadences of the workflow? If you don’t have a maintenance piece in place, many of your efforts will be derailed Your excursions need to have sustainability, consistency, and an understanding of what maintenance is going to look like from the get-go The important pieces of leadership support and communication in an excursion: Consistency and sustainability need to be supported by leadership Leadership has to let everyone know periodically that everything is okay or “Everything will be okay, but these are the things we’re dealing with right now” (Communication is key) Active leadership is key in a transformation journey As a leader, you can’t negate sharing the bigger picture so that the teams can consistently correlate what they’re doing on a daily basis to the bigger business outcomes Quantity does not always equal value (as a leader it is important for you to consistently support your team/s on a regular cadence in an active way)   Mentioned in this Episode: Quincy Jordan McKinsey’s Three Horizons Model The Cynefin Framework Agile Coaches’ Corner Ep: “Spotify, Schmotify: Do Your Own Agile Thinking” Agile Coaches’ Corner Ep: “Exploring an Experimental Mindset with Adam Ulery” The Reengineering Alternative, by William Schneider   Want to Learn More or Get in Touch? Visit the website and catch up with all the episodes on AgileThought.com! Email your thoughts or suggestions to Podcast@AgileThought.com or Tweet @AgileThought using #AgileThoughtPodcast!

Mark Rickmeier is the CEO of Table XI, a UX design and custom software development firm with experience in mobile apps, building integrated web applications, and custom digital experiences. They value community, strategy, and finding solutions with an experimental mindset.   Takeaways: Adopting an experimental mindset in your agency allows your team to have the flexibility to try new things. The immediate ROI may not be linear, but you'll know that there is energy and passion behind the project. In an agency, sometimes we are stretched thin with multiple tasks on hand. Delegate separate tasks to your team to create clear accountability to improve efficiency. Empower your team to explore providing different or more services over time as the market evolves or as the clients evolve. Your direct competitors can provide immense value. Building a network of trusted peers enhances this model of coopertition by directly working with peers in the industry. “The single most important thing to do in onboarding is proper expectation of what success looks like. This provides a clear understanding of how they will bring value to the agency.”~Mark Effectively invest in and shape your work culture by building inclusivity and making it explicit that everybody's voices matter.   Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrickmeier/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/MarkRickmeier Table XI: https://www.tablexi.com Walkshop: https://www.walkshop.io Meetings Done Right: https://www.meetingsdoneright.co The Sticky Note Game: https://www.stickynote.game   Busted Myth: We associate value in meetings, getting things done and all around being busy. If you find yourself constantly booking up your calendar, then start to plan a time period when you can, as an owner, really learn or think about where you want to go as an agency.   Ways to Tune In: iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agencies-that-build/id1533003876 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/04KrB9JKLJ7lxoBZQQpSSH?si=zljWTjmwSK-ht50WPpesOg Stitcher - https://www.stitcher.com/show/agencies-that-build Google Play - https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYWdlbmNpZXN0aGF0YnVpbGQuY29tL2ZlZWQueG1s YouTube - Full video - https://youtu.be/M7uDY8WzcTQ

This week, Dan Neumann is joined by his co-host, Sam Falco, principal trainer and professional scrum trainer at AgileThought.   Together, they’re exploring a question that was sent in by a listener. They asked Dan and Sam to share their take on “the Spotify Model.” The popularized model was first introduced in 2012 by the whitepaper, “Scaling Agile @ Spotify” and described a “people-driven, autonomous approach for scaling agile that emphasizes the importance of culture and network.”   Often, organizations will look at a successful company and say, “How can we emulate what they do?” rather than, “How can we emulate how they think?” There is a desire to mimic a pattern that another organization created because it fits their context, environment, people, and processes. However, installing the Spotify model can be fraught with danger because you’re not Spotify in 2012.   If you have your own question for the Agile Coaches’ Corner that you want Dan and Sam to answer in a future episode, you can send it in at AgileThought.com!   Key Takeaways Why wouldn’t the Spotify Model work for your organization? Just because you see somebody do something someplace else, doesn’t mean it’s going to work for you — because you’re not them You shouldn’t look at a successful company and say, “How can we emulate what they do?” but rather, “How can we emulate how they think?” (i.e. “the Spotify Model” worked for Spotify, but will not work for your company — emulating is not likely to bring you success) The model may not be applicable — and even if it is, there is going to be resistance and additional challenges will be exposed that will need to be addressed Parallels between how organizations bring in the Spotify Model vs. how they bring in the Scrum framework: With both, if you don’t do all of the elements, success is less likely The Scrum framework, however, is a lot easier to adopt (preferably, adopt the Scrum framework and use it to find out what processes work for your organization) Installing the Spotify Model can be fraught with danger because you’re not Spotify in 2012 You could try implementing some of the Spotify Model’s approaches (but most importantly, make sure it works for your organization) When it comes to implementing any type of framework or model, the early questions should be: “What do you hope to accomplish? Why do you want to install this model or adopt this framework? What’s not working for you now and how do you think this will fix it?” This way, you can evaluate and measure  Regardless of what model you’re proposing, think about: What does success look like? Why are you doing it? What is the problem you’re trying to solve? Tips for adopting any model or framework: Look at what’s working (and not working) within your own organization and have discussions on what to do next based on this Adopt an experimental mindset Be clear about the problem(s) you’re trying to solve as an organization Be clear about how you’re measuring success Look at all of the components of whatever you’re trying to adopt and ask, “How will this work here?”, “What will prevent this from happening?”, and “What exists in our current system that is antithetical to these components?” Approach the question of “Should we adopt _______ model or framework,” with empathy and humility — whatever is being suggested (by whoever it may be) is trying to help the organization; not hurt it How to ensure that implementation of a model or framework is successful: Facilitate and make sure that you have all levels of the organization involved Ask: “How is it that we can maintain our current system and adopt a new system and still be successful?” Remember: The current system is not going to change overnight Note: Your journey will not be a straight shot from point A to point B No matter the model or framework, the organization’s DNA is going to respond in unexpected ways — be prepared for the unexpected Bureaucracy kills innovation — if you want to be innovative, you need to kill bureaucracy It can be extremely beneficial to get an outside perspective and bring someone in outside of your organization   Mentioned in this Episode: The Spotify Model “Scaling Agile @ Spotify,” by Henrik Kniberg & Anders Ivarsson Humanocracy: Creating Organizations as Amazing as the People Inside Them, by Gary Hamel and Michele Zanini Agile Coaches’ Corner Ep. 5: “Exploring an Experimental Mindset with Adam Ulery” Agile Coaches’ Corner Ep. 120: “Build Better Teams with Sam Falco” The Tuckman Model Jira LiberatingStructures.com Wicked Questions | LiberatingStructures.com Agile Coaches’ Corner Ep. 122: “The Journey of an Agile Transformation with Quincy Jordan” “Regardless of what we discover, we understand and truly believe that everyone did the best job they could, given what they knew at the time, their skills and abilities, the resources available, and the situation at hand.” — Norman KerthProject Retrospectives: A Handbook for Team Review, by Norman L. Kerth Buyology: Truth and Lies About Why We Buy, by Martin Lindstrom   Want to Learn More or Get in Touch? Visit the website and catch up with all the episodes on AgileThought.com! Email your thoughts or suggestions to Podcast@AgileThought.com or Tweet @AgileThought using #AgileThoughtPodcast!

Struggling with burnoutHow to be productive as a knowledge workerThe power of the subconscious mindPriming the subsconscious mind with the Josh Waitzkin approach https://tim.blog/2016/03/23/josh-waitzkin-the-prodigy-returns/Lucid dreamingAdam's interest moving away from codingThe value of writing to accelerate your careerTactics for improving your writing Adam's idea to build a digital graveyard. How will he justify trying it?Buying pixels to raise money for charityAdam noticing the trap of over-analysis and assuming he knows too much. Building a personal lean canvasThinking smaller to build a portfolio of experimentsDigital art giveaway experiment

Polymaths live experimentally. This isn't to say that they are always conducting traditional scientific experiments; rather, they're applying the scientific method by analyzing and investigating whatever they come across. They feel safe doing this and simply want to gain new information and sate their curiosity. It's almost like they cannot stop themselves from doing it. Get the audiobook on Audible at https://bit.ly/polymathhollins Show notes and/or episode transcripts are available at https://bit.ly/self-growth-home Peter Hollins is a bestselling author, human psychology researcher, and a dedicated student of the human condition. Visit https://bit.ly/peterhollins to pick up your FREE human nature cheat sheet: 7 surprising psychology studies that will change the way you think. For narration information visit Russell Newton at https://bit.ly/VoW-home For production information visit Newton Media Group LLC at https://bit.ly/newtonmg      #experimentation #PeterHollins #TheArtandScienceofSelf-Growth #RussellNewton #NewtonMG #Polymath

Avital Ungar is the Founder and Owner of Avital Tours, a company that is dedicated to providing story-driven culinary experiences. While living in Paris and the quaint town of Aix-en-Provence in Southern France, she became serious about the finer points in life and is now a certified sommelier (with a little help from Wine for Dummies, naturally). While attending UCLA, Avital studied Art History, French, and Mandarin Chinese. After living in Shanghai and working in the Chinese contemporary art market, she returned to her hometown of San Francisco and decided to pursue her interest in art and food professionally.  Avital has served as a judge at the 2011 International Chocolate Salon, The Best of West Rib Competition, and The Good Food Awards. She has also appeared in Travel + Leisure, CNN, and the Travel Channel. In this episode… Making mistakes is an inevitable part of life. Avital Ungar, the Founder and Owner of Avital Tours, believes that we’re never going to get it right the first time— and that’s fine. For her, experiencing failure is really just an opportunity to improve going forward. Avital prioritizes having an experimental mindset and the practice of continuous improvement. Today, she shares how her passion for food and her background in art history led her to start a tour company. Additionally, you’ll hear a story about how a perceived failure turned into an incredible learning opportunity.  Join Avital Ungar, the Founder and Owner of Avital Tours, and Dov Pollack in this episode of the Next Wave Leadership Podcast. Avital shares her leadership experience and the challenges that come with being accountable to your company. She talks about working with an all-female leadership team, shares her company’s core values, and explains how she implemented her experimental mindset when her company’s revenue dropped to zero due to COVID-19.

Today on the podcast, Dan Neumann and Christy Erbeck are discussing how to lead in times of crisis and come out of it stronger than ever.   As a leader, it is critically important to take care of yourself during crises to be able to lead others through them, as well. In this episode, Christy shares her tips for leading through crisis, key strategies leaders can begin to implement, and how to cultivate a healthy work environment for everyone involved.   Key Takeaways Christy’s tips for leaders, leading in a time of crisis: Use it as a time to reflect on where you are now and where you want to be on the other side of it all Take time to process your emotions and lead from a place of truth Lead by example; take care of yourself and work at a sustainable pace while encouraging the rest of the team Transparency is key — be transparent about where you are, as a team, as an organization, and in relation to the difficult decisions you’ve had to make to survive the crisis (transparency offers the opportunity for growth and building trust within the organization) Understand your audience in your approach with being transparent; it is important to care for the person receiving the information Going hand-in-hand with transparency, it is also critical to communicate (and the need for communication exponentially rises, the greater the crisis) Meaningful, intentional communication and on-going dialogue between the employee and the leader (or the team and the team members) is critically important for minimizing the stories they may be telling themselves when there is a gap in communication or lack of communication Connect in a meaningful way with your employees vs. walking away or being silent Authenticity is critically important in leading through a crisis — it’s not about what you know; it’s about what you’re willing to learn Do not defer taking action until the last possible moment How to come out of a crisis stronger than ever with your team: Delegate decision-making and allow other people to make decisions within a framework Take pragmatic action Ensure you are still meeting and talking about your longer-term strategy beyond COVID-19 Examine how to position your organization so that when you come out on the other side of COVID-19 you are attractive to the marketplace and your customers Leverage OKRs Apply an experimental mindset and conduct experiments (one way you could do this is to utilize Kanban boards) Implement empirical process control Cultivate a culture steeped in trust and forgiveness Continual planning Reach out to others as a leader so that you’re not making decisions in a vacuum and are leveraging other people’s expertise Imagine what the leader that you most respect would do; how would they handle this situation? And how can you tap into this person’s expertise? Make the time to reflect and gain perspective Be courageous as a leader by being vulnerable   Mentioned in this Episode: The Dave Ramsey Show Brené Brown “A Guide to OKRs,” KOAN Agile Coaches’ Corner Ep. 5: “Exploring an Experimental Mindset with Adam Ulery” “What is a Kanban Board?” Small Business Administration (SBA) SCORE — Service Corps of Retired Executives Gartner The Conference Board Harvard Business Review “Microsoft Analyzed Data on its Newly Remote Workforce,” Harvard Business Review “Managing When the Future is Unclear,” Harvard Business Review “Leadership in Times of Crisis,” American Psychological Association “How to Survive a Recession and Thrive Afterward,” Harvard Business Review “The Downside of Flex Time,” Harvard Business Review “The Reopening Challenge: 5 Tips for Getting Back to Business,” Inc. “COVID-19 is Reshaping Business: 6 Tips for Coming Back Even Stronger,” Forbes   Want to Learn More or Get in Touch? Visit the website and catch up with all the episodes on AgileThought.com! Email your thoughts or suggestions to Podcast@AgileThought.com or Tweet @AgileThought using #AgileThoughtPodcast!

Today’s guest is Chris Lucian, the Director of Software Development at Hunter Industries and co-founder of the mob programming movement! Chris is passionate about the advancement of software craftsmanship and machine learning. He seeks the continuous improvement of himself, his family, his company, and his community. He believes that we can explore the unexplored potential in all things when looking at our processes with automation and creativity in mind.   In this week’s episode, Chris joins Dan to discuss mob programming. He shares the origin story behind mob programming, what it is and how it is utilized and dispells some of the general misconceptions around it. Chris also highlights many of the key benefits of mob programming and explains some of the best practices!   Key Takeaways Key takeaways from the origin story behind mob programming: After getting hired into an organization he was shocked by how everybody was working separately in cubicles and soon developed mob programming After implementing mob programming, their quality went through the roof and their cycle time went from a year and a half to twice a day and they stopped getting bug reports from production What is mob programming? A software development approach where the whole team works on the same thing, at the same time, in the same space, and at the same computer This approach relies on face-to-face and side-by-side communication, team alignment, collaboration, and whole team involvement What are coding katas? The intentional practice of your coding craft Practicing together by writing code through games such as the Tic Tac Toe Game and the Bowling Game (linked below) Helps to build a habit or reflex out of coding Misconceptions around mob programming: When multiple people are working on a single piece workflow it will cost more for the company It is a waste of time to implement for the ‘simple stuff’ The benefits of mob programming: Paired programming helps mitigate risk from siloing and provides an increase in quality High-bandwidth learning The code moves all the time Really optimized for flow efficiency with less time being spent on waste activities like bug fixes Removing impediments becomes really fast A higher consciousness of experiments on the team to run about how to make things better and faster Mobbing on the simple stuff incentivizes programmers to make all that simple stuff go away permanently Physical cost-wise, four cubicles costs more than a single mobbing station with a high-end computer and two 80” screens Standup meetings become eliminated because the team is already aligned Group consciousness is constantly being developed Psychological safety and feedback becomes necessary through mob programming (which are critical components to a successful team) The codebase keeps moving forward and nothing gets in its way Mob programming best practices: Dedicated learning time Do frequent retrospectives Don’t just ‘try’ something; frame it as an experiment (regardless of the outcome, it provides invaluable learning)   Mentioned in this Episode: Chris Lucian Hunter Industries Mob Programming Agile Manifesto Woody Zuill Agile Coaches’ Corner Ep. 28: “Misconceptions and Interpretations of ‘The Agile Manifesto’ with Arie van Bennekum” Mob Mentality Show (Youtube Channel) Tic-Tac-Toe Kata Game Bowling Game Kata Twitter @ChristophLucian Google Study on the Top 5 Traits of Successful Teams Conway’s Law Companies that are Mob Programming Mob Programming RPG by Willem Larson Trello Board — Software Profession Resources Harvesting Mob Programming Patterns (A publication taking a look at the mob programming patterns discovered by IBM and LendingHome) Scrum Gathering Tokyo 2019: “Learning to Experiment” (Chris’ Keynote)  Agile Coaches’ Corner Ep. 5: “Exploring an Experimental Mindset with Adam Ulery” Linda Rising   Chris Lucian’s Book Pick: Thinking, Fast and Slow, by Daniel Kahneman   Want to Learn More or Get in Touch? Visit the website and catch up with all the episodes on AgileThought.com! Email your thoughts or suggestions to Podcast@AgileThought.com or Tweet @AgileThought using #AgileThoughtPodcast!

Leaders create change. The problem is that not everybody wants change. You've probably faced the frustration of having your team be less than enthusiastic about a new initiative. That's when you hear all the familiar lines: “We tried that before.” “It'll cost too much.” “Why do we need this, anyway?” It's exhausting. But there is hope! Here's an easy way to get people onboard with a new initiative. It's so simple, you'll wonder you you haven't thought of it before now. Here it is: When introducing any change, from procedures or policies up to and including new product releases, ask people to think of it as an experiment. Hold on! We know that sounds either simplistic or downright dangerous, but there's a real logic behind it. And? It really works. We've used it dozens of times, both when we find ourselves procrastinating on personal change, and even when we launched one of our most successful products. Try this yourself, and you'll instantly overcome resistance and gain buy-in for your change initiatives. You'll finally escape the purgatory of endless discussion about a new idea and quickly move to action. This episode of Lead to Win is brought to you by The LeaderScore Assessment, a simple tool to evaluate the health of your leadership. Find out more at leadto.win/leaderscore. TEXT A FRIEND If this episode strikes home with you, why not text the link to a friend? Failure is a universal experience, and someone you know could probably benefit from this content. While you're at it, we'd love to hear from you too. Would you leave a review on iTunes? Good, bad, or indifferent. We'd love to hear what you think. We read all of your comments, and they really do help us make the show better! Thanks so much. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Leaders create change. The problem is that not everybody wants change. You’ve probably faced the frustration of having your team be less than enthusiastic about a new initiative. That’s when you hear all the familiar lines: “We tried that before.” “It’ll cost too much.” “Why do we need this, anyway?” It’s exhausting. But there is hope! Here’s an easy way to get people onboard with a new initiative. It’s so simple, you’ll wonder you you haven’t thought of it before now. Here it is: When introducing any change, from procedures or policies up to and including new product releases, ask people to think of it as an experiment. Hold on! We know that sounds either simplistic or downright dangerous, but there’s a real logic behind it. And? It really works. We’ve used it dozens of times, both when we find ourselves procrastinating on personal change, and even when we launched one of our most successful products. Try this yourself, and you’ll instantly overcome resistance and gain buy-in for your change initiatives. You’ll finally escape the purgatory of endless discussion about a new idea and quickly move to action. This episode of Lead to Win is brought to you by The LeaderScore Assessment, a simple tool to evaluate the health of your leadership. Find out more at leadto.win/leaderscore. TEXT A FRIEND If this episode strikes home with you,  why not text the link to a friend? Failure is a universal experience, and someone you know could probably benefit from this content.  While you’re at it, we’d love to hear from you too. Would you leave a review on iTunes? Good, bad, or indifferent. We’d love to hear what you think. We read all of your comments, and they really do help us make the show better! Thanks so much.   

Joining Dan Neumann today are Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby! In case you don’t already know them, Johanna Rothman is known as the “Pragmatic Manager” and is the author of 14 books (and counting)! Through her management consulting, she helps managers and leaders create projects, teams, and organizations that work. Mark Kilby is an agile mentor and coach, playing many roles on the software and product lifecycle stage. His passions include serving servant leaders and building sustainable organizations that bring value to the people inside and outside the organization.   Recently, Mark and Johanna have collaborated on the book, From Chaos to Successful Distributed Agile Teams, that teaches how to create a successful distributed agile team and leave the chaos of virtual teams behind. This fascinating book will also be today’s topic of discussion! Johanna and Mark outline the differences between co-located, distributed, and dispersed teams; why the distinction between all three is important for agile teams; what is an agile team; key principles for these different types of agile teams; and nuggets of wisdom for managers of these teams.   Key Takeaways The distinction between colocated, distributed, and dispersed teams; and why it’s important: A co-located team is one that is collaborating and communicating in person (one that you can simply walk up to and have a discussion with) A distributed team is a group of individuals collaborating and communicating via communication technology (AKA a virtual team) A dispersed team is where some team members are in one space together while the rest are in another Mark has a simple way of distinguishing between these types through space analogies: A Satelite team: where the bulk of the team is located but you’ve got a small number of the team that is not co-located with each other The Clusters: where the organization has several clusters of people in different locations (i.e. co-located teams that have to coordinate the work) The Nebula: where everybody is distributed and works from different locations to collaborate as a team What is a team? And what is key specifically for agile teams? A team has a single goal (and one that is small enough to be able to actually collaborate together with) and has interdependent work The team has the capability and the hours of overlap to communicate and check-in with each other so that they have the right understanding of their collective progress and goal The team watches out for each other to make sure they’re collectively working towards their goal Key principles that will help your distributed team move towards better agility: Hours of overlap are crucial in allowing the teams to truly collaborate Flow efficiency for agile teams The team needs to create tighter bonds with each other Self-organizing and self-managing teams Critical for the teams to decide when the meetings occur and to outline their own working agreements Nuggets of wisdom and important qualities to uphold for managers that are leading distributed agile teams: The three important mindset shifts for managers (outlined in their book) are: manage for change, emphasize communication and collaboration, and use agile principles (not practices) Great managers have organizational expertise and understand how to get things done in the organization in order to set up the right environment for the teams Managers support teams in their continued growth Experimentation is key to managing for change What is Value Stream Mapping (VSM) and how is it an important tool? VSM is a lean management tool that helps visualize the steps needed to take from product creation to delivering it to the end-customer It’s especially useful for nebula teams that are completely separated from each other (to be able to see where the work is and how much wait time there is)   Mentioned in this Episode: Johanna Rothman Mark Kilby From Chaos to Successful Distributed Agile Teams: Collaborate to Deliver, by Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby “Dispersed vs. Distributed Teams,” by Johanna Rothman Agile Coaches’ Corner Ep.5: “Exploring an Experimental Mindset with Adam Ulery” Value Stream Mapping (VSM)   Johanna and Mark’s Book (and TV Show) Picks: The Man in the High Castle (Amazon Prime Series) Accounting for Slavery: Masters and Management, by Caitlin Rosenthal Educated: A Memoir, by Tara Westover   Want to Learn More or Get in Touch? Visit the website and catch up with all the episodes on AgileThought.com! Email your thoughts or suggestions to Podcast@AgileThought.com or Tweet @AgileThought using #AgileThoughtPodcast!

Interview with Dr. Jaap Verbaas Today's episode is an interview with the Author of cross training guide for freediving and spearfishing. Dr. Jaap Verbaas is a crash test dummy of the highest calibre. I geek out way too much and we talk about hypoxic squats, essential tools and mindset for improving your freediving performance and even diets that can help. Standout highlights (for me) are Jaap's experimental mindset and his demonstration of how to plan, measure, experiment and learn from each experiment.  If you are engaged in any from of freediving training then you will find plenty of value in this interview and the Longer and Deeper book. Listen & subscribe to the Noob Spearo Podcast on | | | | Interview Time Stamps Background 6:00 Where are you based, what do you do and how did you get started freediving? - what is it and what compelled you to become a freediving writer? 9:25 What reediving/spearfishing hurdles did you personally face and how did you overcome them? Jaap talks about equalizing issues at depth. 15:40 Canadian Spearfishing. Where do you spearfish? Chasing flounder in cold water with a Polespear 18:40 What's your go-to fish dish 19:30 : Overview of the book and key concepts I read the book and really enjoyed it - all of it. I think a huge part of why its such a good book is your Experimental Mindset:  Where did you acquire this habit? Are you a Tim Ferris fan? (I noticed the slow carb diet and lots of your methodology is similar) How did you adopt this theorize, plan, measure, adapt methodology? Is this a skill or orientation that all of us should adopt? Muscle mass: when does it become counter-productive for freediving Hacks for improving freediving performance Blood quality and cardio: exploring the relationship Myoglobin: the oxygen holding cells in your muscles. Theories about training to increase it Hypoxic Squats: desaturating the oxygen in your muscles. Measuring the change Hypoxic Squats: How to do them and the device you need to measure your oxygen saturation () Spleenic contraction? Can you see it on an oxygen saturation graph when your body is steadily depleting? 40:10 Perfect Dive/Shit Dive comparison - great concept (this is awesome for looking at the separate metabolic phases of a dive that you can specifically target when training) Can you walk me through a good spearfishing dive right now? I’m hunting reef fish in 18m/60ft and to get the fish curious enough I need to hold some bottom time. (I’d love to get into the dive phase concept - are there 4 phases in a spearfishing dive?) Ok now the converse...what does a shit dive look like? The physiological demands on the diver at each stage and how symptoms can point to what you may need to target in your own training regimen “The goal of training is to adapt the body to specific conditions. In freediving, the goal is to adapt the body to underwater conditions. These conditions include; Increased pressure Reduced Oxygen Increased Carbon Dioxide Specific training is possible for all 3 of these conditions” Dr. Jaap Verbaas 47:00 Can we talk about training for each of these conditions specifically for spearfishing? CO2 Tables training can be great for spearos suffering early onset contractions Mid-Distance Sprints for reducing lactate and leg soreness on the surface Blood - improving quality. Cardio training boosts blood volume and is proven to improve the quality. Swimming training is good for CO2 tolernance as well as cardiovascular training *further detailed breakdowns and training plans are specifically laid out in Part 3 of the Longer and Deeper book 54:00 EXERCISES Stretching (what about for 37 year old weapons?) Animal Walks? The crab walk - I can't do it. Hypoxic Squats. How and why (this seems to be the biggest needle mover - why?) Blood quality - Cardio - freedivers (top level can be anti) Yoga and breathing 62:20 DIET: Myth Busting (are you rehearsing for the show)? Alkaline Diet? Carbs - are they bad? Dairy/Mucus relationship? Ketosis? ( discussed) Slow carb? To learn more about this diet you can also check out the 74:00 TOOLS Notebook and a pencil and start tracking your training Oximeter - Moxi - learn more here 78:50 RANDOMS What kind of stuff do freedivers and spearos do that annoys you? Did you have any unexpected findings or conclusions, for apnea training? What are you curious about and working on right now? What can we expect from Jaap Verbaas in the future? 85:00 Freedive Wire Tell us About FreediveWire.com What kind of articles can guys find on there if they want to learn more What determines the content you write about? Where can people find you? Contact Jaap at info@freedivewire.com or connect with him on  Noob Spearo Partners + some spearfishing discounts . Use the code NOOBSPEARO save $20 on every purchase over $200 at checkout. . Listen to 99 Tips to Get Better at Spearfishing or James Nestors ‘Deep: Freediving, Renegade Science, and what the ocean tells us about ourselves’ free Subscribe to the best spearfishing magazine in the world. Email jeromy@spearingmagazine.com for a super deal for downunder spearos (Australia/New Zealand/South Africa) Use the code noobspearo to save $20 on the full Penetrator Spearfishing Fin Range . Check out the latest in spearfishing fin technology How to Spearfish : use the code NOOBPEARO to save! Spearo Sign up for ‘The Floater’ – Shrek and Turbo’s email newsletter  Join the Noob Spearo Spearo on Patreon!

Today’s topic is all about retrospectives! A retrospective is a short meeting for project teams to reflect on the most recent stage of their project, analyze their processes, and identify issues or things they can do better, moving forward. Joining Dan Neumann today is return guest — and his colleague at AgileThought — Sam Falco. Sam is an Agile Coach and Certified Scrum Professional with an extensive background leading Agile development teams. Dan and Sam dive deep into discussing Agile retrospectives, going over the five phases of the widely accepted framework from Esther Derby’s and Diana Larsen’s book, Agile Retrospectives: Making Good Teams Great. They also discuss what makes an effective retrospective, some of the failure patterns in unsuccessful retrospectives, and some great resources on retrospectives to follow up on after this week’s show!   Key Takeaways The 5 phases of the Agile Retrospectives framework: Set the Stage Gather Data Generate Insights Decide What to Do Close the Retrospective What makes an effective retrospective? Engage the team in ‘setting the stage’ activities (as it is imperative for the team to effectively work together) Track useful and pertinent data to bring to the retrospective Leverage an experimental mindset Generate insights by digging deeper beyond the superficial issues by using the 5 Whys Narrow down the list, make the list doable/actionable, hold people accountable, and follow through Show appreciation for your teammates Ask for feedback as a facilitator to improve future retrospectives What are some failure patterns? Making the cycles too short and time-cutting due to no value Covering the same issues every time without any experiment to fix it Turning the retrospective into an unproductive complaint session Having a long list of too many things to change (which dilutes focus) Declaring your hands are tied and the problem cannot be fixed   Mentioned in this Episode: Diana Larsen Agile Coaches’ Corner episode: “Exploring an Experimental Mindset with Adam Ulery” 5 Whys Retromat The Thiagi Group Fun Retrospectives Liberating Structures 1-2-4-All Agile Coaches’ Corner episode: “Setting Up Working Agreements with Christy Erbeck” Rory’s Story Cubes Retrium   Dan Neumann and Sam Falco’s Book Picks Agile Retrospectives: Making Good Teams Great, by Esther Derby and Diana Larsen Getting Value out of Agile Retrospectives — A Toolbox of Retrospectives Exercises, by Luis Gonçalves and Ben Linders Scorecasting: The Hidden Influences Behind How Sports Are Played and Games Are Won, by Tobias Moskowitz and L. Jon Wertheim Bluebird, Bluebird, by Attica Locke Dare to Lead: Brave Work. Tough Conversations. Whole Hearts., by Brené Brown   Want to Learn More or Get in Touch? Visit the website and catch up with all the episodes on AgileThought.com! Email your thoughts or suggestions to Podcast@AgileThought.com or Tweet @AgileThought using #AgileThoughtPodcast!

In today’s episode of the Agile Coaches’ Corner, your host, Dan Neumann, and his guest, Adam Ulery, will be exploring an experimental mindset. Adam is one of Dan’s colleagues at AgileThought. Adam is a perpetually curious, continuous learner who is always willing to encourage others to try new things (as he very often does himself). He’s a Sr. Agile Coach and multifamily investor. He’s focused on helping organizations clarify and meet their business outcomes and loves to help companies become resilient, rediscover curiosity, and change their traditional approach to business. Dan and Adam explore both the ‘experimental’ and the ‘mindset’ side of an experimental mindset, fully explaining what it is, how it’s used, the importance of it, and the benefits. They also highlight how to successfully set out to experiment and some of the key learning that can come from implementing it.   Key Takeaways What is an ‘experimental mindset?’ Trying something new or different to see if it will work with an intention Intentional about what you’re setting out to learn (through a hypothesis) and then measuring results How to successfully set out to experiment: Begin with an end in mind (i.e. know what you’re setting out to achieve) Be curious and start asking questions Have a general awareness as a team and notice patterns to identify areas that may need experimenting (i.e. “what would happen if…?”) Begin collecting data to help identify patterns The importance of ‘mindset’ in an experimental mindset: Being open and willing to try new things Approaching it with a genuine curiosity The benefits of an experimental mindset: The results will always be valuable regardless of the outcome They are small, safe experiments (vs. big, risky bets) Provides valuable learning outcomes that mitigate risk Key Learnings: Experimental mindset is being intentional about what you’re setting out to learn It’s important to have an open mind and approach things with a genuine curiosity Identify patterns through collecting data to pinpoint areas that may need experimenting Mentioned in this Episode: Adam Ulery (LinkedIn) Adam Ulery’s Book Picks Dare to Lead: Brave Work. Tough Conversations. Whole Hearts., by Brené Brown Principles: Life and Work, by Ray Dalio The Age of Agile: How Smart Companies Are Transforming the Way Work Gets Done, by Stephen Denning Crushing It in Apartments and Commercial Real Estate: How a Small Investor Can Make It Big, by Brian H. Murray Want to Learn More or Get in Touch? Visit the website and catch up with all the episodes on AgileThought.com! Email your thoughts or suggestions to Podcast@AgileThought.com or Tweet @AgileThought using #AgileThoughtPodcast!

Meet Kasey Bayne, part of the marketing team at Olark live chat, the most beautiful and effective way to talk to your customers for sales and support. In this podcast episode, you'll hear about the mindset shifts you need to make to create and build strategic partnerships, like Olark has been doing, as well as, re-thinking the experimental techniques Kasey's team been implementing to win in a super competitive market. We also find out how they were able to scale up from word of mouth marketing using automation and centralized communications and Kasey gives us her best tips on where to find the expert advise you really could use. 03:40 What Olark Live Chat Does 04:10 Joining Olark With 10k Paid Customers and Great Culture 06:27 The First 10000 Customers 07:36 From Word Of Mouth To Automation and Centralized Communications 10:08 Narrowing Down On User Problems, Case Studies and Website Redo 14:18 Paid Traffic: Embracing An Experimental Mindset 19:12 Defining Baselines For The Experiment and Data Analysts 21:20 Surprising Wins With Partners and Integrations 23:49 The Mindset Shift You Need To Build Strategic Partnerships 26:42 Marketing In 2018: Experimental Mindset and Experts In The Field 28:55 Finding Expert Advise: Conferences and Getting Involved In Your Community 30:27 Lightning Questions

What does it mean to you if someone says, "why don't you try this experiment with your business?" Does it immediately make parts of your anatomy pucker? Or does it give you a bit of freedom to try some things you wouldn't have tried if they weren't experiments? If that option to hypothesize, test and measure with minimal risk wasn't there? That's what we discussed last night at Women in Tech / Ballsy. The experimental mindset and the permission to fail. To understand that trying new things for your business is essential for moving forward and that the metrics don't have to be tied to your bottom line. Maybe the experiment builds a better team. Maybe it opens up new product ideas. Maybe the next time someone suggests an experiment you pucker just a little less and in fewer places. I'd say that's a success wouldn't you?

One of my favorite quotes is, "If you're not measuring, you're not marketing." This has never been more true than it is today. What worked yesterday is not guaranteed to work tomorrow. Learn, measure, and iterate so that you can continue to optimize your marketing efforts. The post Marketing and the Experimental Mindset appeared first on Control Mouse Media.

In this Focus Forty episode, I speak with Melissa Perri, the CEO of Produx Labs and Product Institute, to talk about her success and the Product Mindset. She talks about the Experimental Mindset and much more. Who is Melissa Perri? Melissa Perri is the founder and CEO of Produx Labs and Product Institute. Melissa coaches […]The post DYT 069 : The Experimental Mindset & Product Management | Melissa Perri appeared first on .