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Aujourd'hui on va parler d'un chalutier touché/coulé, d'une bande d'agents secrets un peu bras cassés et d'une affaire qui est remontée jusqu'à l'Élysée… Une histoire racontée par Valérie-Anne Maitre.Le 10 juillet 1985, dans le port d'Auckland en Nouvelle-Zélande, un bateau est touché… coulé. C'est le Rainbow Warrior qui prend l'eau. Le navire amiral de l'association Greenpeace allait partir sous peu pour l'atoll de Mururoa. une opération importante afin de dénoncer les essais nucléaires menés par la France. L'affaire devient un scandale d'État, car l'attentat a fait un mort: un photographe portugais, Fernando Pereira. Et bientôt, deux touristes sont arrêtés par les autorités. On découvre que les services secrets français sont impliqués.Les sources de l'épisodeExtraits sonores de l'INA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SttmAY-qKZs L'affaire racontée par Greenpeace https://www.greenpeace.fr/attentat-rainbow-warrior-1985/ L'article du Monde sur la 3e équipe française: https://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/1985/09/18/le-chainon-manquant_2740070_1819218.html#C5hbriKKuG8vb5UF.99 Les regrets d'un agent de la DGSE https://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2015/09/06/2171533-trente-ans-apres-agent-dgse-coule-rainbow-warrior-excuse.htmlLe générique du podcast c'est toujours David Nilsson. Plus d'infos sur notre label Podcut et notre patreon : podcut.studio Merci pour vos contributions !Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

durée : 00:53:42 - LSD, la série documentaire - par : Perrine Kervran - C'est l'héritage de l'histoire nucléaire française qui empêche la pleine reconnaissance des victimes des essais nucléaires.

It has been 50 years since the HMNZS Otago and HMNZS Canterbury sailed to the Mururoa atoll in French Polynesia to protest French nuclear testing in the Pacific. Sailors on both vessels witnessed tests while they were there. At the time, little was known about the impacts of radiation exposure but a University of Otago study conducted in 2020 found that navy veterans who were aboard the ships have higher rates of cancer than the general population. Gavin Smith was on board the Canterbury as a lead engineering mechanic. He is now president of the Mururoa Nuclear Veterans Group and advocates for genetic testing for Mururoa veterans and their descendents. Smith spoke to Kim Hill.

It's been 50 years since Prime Minister Norman Kirk sent the HMNZS Otago and it's 242 crew off on a mission to protest nuclear testing at Mururoa Atoll, in French Polynesia. This Friday will be a ceremony to officially recognise the men's sacrifices, many of whom have been left with serious health issues due to radiation exposure.

Am 11. März 2011 erschütterten Nachrichten aus Japan die ganze Welt: Auf die Naturkatastrophe eines Tsunamis folgte die Atomkatastrophe von Fukushima. Durch eine Kernschmelze in drei der sechs Reaktorblöcken kam es zu erheblichen Freisetzungen von Radionukliden in die Umwelt, die bis heute ihre Spuren hinterlassen. Heute sind wir dem Thema wieder näher, als wir uns wünschen würden. Beim Rückbau der Reaktoren fallen täglich tausende Liter kontaminiertes Wasser an, das zur Reinigung gefiltert und in Lagertanks geleitet wird. Aktuell befinden sich 1,3 Millionen Tonnen Wasser auf dem Gelände, welches Japan noch in diesem Jahr ins Meer leiten wird, obwohl hohe Mengen Tritium enthalten sind. Anlässlich des bevorstehenden OCEAN CRIMES spricht Maja in der neuen Folge mit Dr. med. Angelika Claußen. Angelika ist niedergelassene Ärztin für Psychiatrie und Psychotherapie sowie Co-Vorsitzende und Präsidentin der IPPNW (International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War). Angelika koordiniert und vertritt die Arbeit der deutschen IPPNW zum Thema Frieden und Atomwaffenverbot, Atomausstieg sowie Klima und Krieg. In dieser Folge erfährst du, was das Atomkraftwerk Fukushima bis heute für Auswirkungen auf das Meer hat und auf was wir uns gefasst machen müssen, wenn der radioaktive Abfall ins Meer abgeleitet wird. Außerdem erklärt Angelika wichtige Grundlagen zum Thema Atomenergie, spricht über gesundheitliche Folgen von Atomkatastrophen und was sie bei der Entsorgung für Forderungen stellt. Gibt es eine bessere Alternative? Auch diese Frage wird von Maja und Angelika diskutiert, und du erfährst wie immer, wie auch du aktiv werden kannst.

Paul Henry was one of New Zealand's last great broadcasting celebrities. He was a radio broadcaster through the 1980s, but it wasn't until 2004 that he became a household name. His seven-year tenure on Breakfast saw ratings soar and he boasted the type of star power at his peak that just doesn't exist in broadcasting anymore. But alongside the fame were a number of on-air controversies that followed his career. Paul's rise to fame and fortune is even more incredible when you chart his journey from abstract poverty in Bristol being raised by his single mother. Not to mention brushes with danger as a foreign correspondent that included being detained in Iraq, shot at in Cambodia, nearly lynched in the slums of Calcutta, threatened by the French navy at Mururoa and shelled in Bosnia. But it all makes for a rich tapestry of life that we were lucky enough to hear about. Paul doesn't normally do this sort of thing, so we're feeling very lucky. Show notes | Episode 111 | Paul Henry 1:52: Between Two Beers (with The Henry Gin) 7:40: Landing Paul Henry on the podcast: a story via Sudan and Osama bin Laden 17:37: “A rich tapestry of life” 21:05: Sodomy in Malaysia and being detained in Iraq 35:27: Life as a foreign correspondent 42:10: Jesus Boots and growing up in poverty 47:55: Lessons from mum and dad 55:59: The journey to becoming the biggest broadcaster in New Zealand 1:02:28: Reflections on breakfast television 1:08:09: Pushing the boundaries: the controversies of Paul Henry 1:17:18: Commercial whaling with Guy Williams 1:19:27: Life after broadcasting 1:22:43: Palm Springs, nudism and perineum sunning 1:26:42: What next for Paul Henry? 1:33:00: Interviews and the three-question method 1:36:08: Last words from Steve, Seamus and PaulSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Den europeiska bilden av Stilla havets övärld liknar en dröm, för dem som redan bodde här var kolonisatörernas ankomst en mardröm. Per J Andersson spårar arvet i litteraturen. ESSÄ: Detta är en text där skribenten reflekterar över ett ämne eller ett verk. Åsikter som uttrycks är skribentens egna.Stilla havet är världens största hav och täcker en tredjedel av planetens yta. Ändå är den värld som existerar här i stort sett okänd för gemene västerlänning. Oceanien är den världsdel vi har vagast uppfattning om. Visst, Australien och Nya Zeeland är ganska bekanta, men om vi zoomar in på kartan lite längre österut så ser vi en värld som påminner om små dammkorn mot en klarblå tapet. Då upptäcker vi också att öarna i det stora havet delats in i tre geografiska områden:Melanesien, Mikronesien och Polynesien.De svarta öarna, De små öarna och De många öarna.Få nyheter når oss härifrån. Och ännu färre böcker skrivna av någon som kommer härifrån. Däremot är ju de flesta av oss bekanta med berättelser med utifrånperspektiv som Robinson Crusoe och Pippi Långstrump i Söderhavet.Söderhavet var det gamla svenska namnet på detta hav som Magellan fanns så lugnt att han namngav det Mar Pacifico, det fridfulla havet. Men det var knappast det första namnet på denna väldiga havsmassa. Européerna var heller inte först med att kartlägga området eller att betrakta det som en helhet. Men det finns avgörande skillnader i hur Stillahavsområdets ursprungsbefolkningar och kolonisatörerna betraktade vad de såg. När européerna drog gränser mellan sina erövringar och isolerade öarna från varandra förvandlades havet till ett slags mellanrum, en tomhet. Det är, med den amerikanske historikern John R Gillis ord, att tänka arkipelagiskt. Men medan européerna mest hade ögon för delarna så såg polynesierna, melanesierna och mikronesierna ett hav som förenade dem. De tillhörde ett hav av öar snarare än en specifik ö.Den världsbilden blir tydlig när man läser den polynesiske författaren Witi Ihimaeras åttiotalsroman The Whale Rider. I den berättas myten om hur den första maoriern anlände till Aotearoa som är det polynesiska namnet på Nya Zeeland ridande på ryggen av en val som kommer simmande från djupet av den väldiga oceanen.Författaren Epeli Hauofa, som föddes på Papua Nya Guinea 1939, därefter pluggade på Fiji och sedan bosatte sig på Tonga, har formulerat det som att stillahavsöarna är en del av ett universum som inte bara består av den landyta som öarna utgör, utan också av det omgivande havet.Att denna syn är återkommande hos många stillahavsförfattare blir tydligt i brittiska litteraturvetaren Michelle Keowns bok Pacific islands writing, där hon går igenom de gamla myterna såväl som den samtida oceaniska litteraturen. Återkommande teman är konflikten mellan att stanna kvar och upprätthålla traditionerna och att emigrera till västerlandet och ge upp desamma. Historien om Oceanien är därför historien om migration, alienation, hemlängtan och rotlöshet. Men också om resor på haven, om förflyttningarna; om navigation, kanotfärder och seglatser.Avfolkningen började tidigt. Många av dem som efter européernas ankomst inte dukade under för influensan och mässlingen fördes bort som arbetskraft och hamnade på kopra- och kryddplantager på Fiji och Mauritius eller i Nordamerika för att jobba på pälsfarmer, som skogshuggare eller med valfiske.Om den europeiska ankomsten kan liknas vid en mardröm för stillahavsborna, var och förblev deras hem en dröm och utopi i kolonisatörernas ögon. Inte minst en erotisk sådan. På Tahiti ansåg man sig ha hittat den ädle vilden som levde i det naturliga och lyckliga urtillstånd som upplysningsfilosofen Jean-Jacques Rousseau fantiserat om.År 1768 ankrade fransmannen Louis Antoine de Bougainvilles utanför ön och hälsades av en flicka insvept i tyg, som sakta snurrade på kroppen tills hon stod helt naken. Men det som de sexsvultna franska sjömännen tolkade som en invit till fysisk beröring var i själva verket något helt annat en polynesisk sedvana inför möten med gudar, hövdingar och högt uppsatta främlingar. En rituell handling som handlade om att visa respekt och vördnad. Detta hindrade inte Bougainville från att i boken om sin jordenruntresa skildra mötet med den nakna kvinnokroppen som om Afrodite själv hade uppenbarat sig. Tahiti fick smeknamnet Nya Kythera efter Afrodites grekiska födelseö. Vid denna tid var kärleksgudinnans namn liktydigt med typ mjukporr, alltså ett lite finare sätt att säga att något var sexuellt upphetsande.De västerländska skribenterna såg öborna som sköra, ursprungliga, feminina och framförallt åtråvärda.Samma blick hade konstnärerna. Med på James Cooks expeditioner fanns John Webber, vars målningar föreställde palmkantade öar, ansiktstatuerade män och barbröstade kvinnor och som eldade på myten om en paradisisk plats. Två polynesiska män hade dessutom lockats att följa med den brittiske världsomseglaren hem till Europa för att visas upp i salongerna som exempel på den ädle vilden. Snart blev polynesiska tapeter högsta mode samtidigt som romantiska diktsviter, reseskildringar och äventyrsromaner med söderhavstema sålde som smör.På 1890-talet besökte Paul Gauguin Tahiti. Också han avbildade fascinerat halvnakna män och kvinnor i ett ångande, prunkande tropiskt landskap.Strax därefter blev öarna i dessutom Melanesien dubbade till det idealiska laboratoriet för fältstudier i socialantropologi, en vetenskap som föddes med den polsk-brittiske Bronisaw Malinowskis rapporter från Trobriandöarna.Ett perspektiv på den extrema exotiseringen och idylliseringen får man genom att betänka vad det var för värld européerna hade skapat för sig själva på hemmaplan där himlarna förmörkades av grå kolrök från fabriksskorstenar och ånglok.Den västerländska föreställningen om Oceanien som en del av världen som är praktiskt taget tom och som man därför kan göra nästan vad som helst med blev tydlig också efter andra världskriget. Då evakuerade USA och Frankrike invånare från bland andra Marshallöarna och Mururoa för att provspränga sina atombomber.Bomberna och migrationen har krympt öbefolkningarna. Mer än en tredjedel av alla polynesier bor idag i framförallt Australien och Nya Zeeland, men också i USA och i viss mån även i Europa.Med tiden har känslan av hemlängtan bleknat något. I litteraturen kan man se hur öborna börjat rota sig i sina nya länder. Ett exempel på denna fastlandifiering är den samoanska författaren, poeten och dramatikern Albert Tuaopepe Wendt. I sina tidiga böcker skildrade han korruption och vanstyre på öarna såväl som det utanförskap som många som emigrerat kände. Men från nittiotalet och framåt handlar hans texter alltmer om ö-migranter som funnit sig tillrätta och etablerat sig i sina nya hemländer.Det betyder ju inte att det att det direkt ges ut en massa feelgood-litteratur i Stilla havet. Förutom internationella bestsellers som Whale Rider, som skildrar maoriernas utanförskap, finns Oceaniens hittills enda Bookerprisvinnare: Keri Hulmes Benfolket, från1985. I den berättar hon med ett poetiskt språk om allt från social vilsenhet till spruckna familjer och våld i nära relationer.Ganska långt, kan man säga, från Rousseaus ädle vilde och Gauguins frodiga paradis.Per J Andersson, författare och resejournalistLitteraturMichelle Keown: Pacific Islands Writing  The postcolonial literatures of aotearoa/new zealand and oceania. Oxford University Press, 2007.Keri Hulme: Benfolket. Översättning av Cai Melin. Albert Bonniers förlag, 1987.

#44 Polynésie française et colonialité du nucléaireEntre 1966 et 1996, la France a procédé à 193 explosions nucléaires en Polynésie française dont 46 à l'air libre. Mururoa est l'un des sites ayant subi le plus grand nombre d'explosions nucléaires au monde, avec Alamogordo aux États-Unis et Semeï au Kazakhstan. Pendant 30 ans, des PolynésiennEs ont été exposéEs aux radiations des centaines de fois supérieures à celles d'Hiroshima et Nagasaki sans que cela ne fasse reculer les autorités françaises. Au contraire, celles-ci se sont attelées à nier l'irradiation et la pollution, en mettant en avant l'image d'une Polynésie de carte postale. La modernité polynésienne avait un prix, celui de concéder les atolls pour les expérimentations nucléaires françaises.56 ans après la 1e explosion dans le Pacifique français, les cas de cancer et autres maladies se multiplient chez les PolynésiennEs qui peinent à obtenir des informations sur la réalité des expérimentations et des conséquences sur leurs corps et leur environnement. Depuis le début du 21e siècle, les collectifs polynésiens se mobilisent de plus en plus fortement pour obtenir la reconnaissance par l'État français et la réparation pour les préjudices subis. C'est cette histoire dont il sera question aujourd'hui.Références :LCP, 2022, « Nucléaire en Polynésie : en quête de vérité ».« Tahiti, de l'autre côté du miroir », série documentaire de Delphine Morel, Épisode 4/4 : Mururoa, le colonialisme nucléaire, diffusé sur France culture, le 3 septembre 2020.INSERM, « Essais nucléaires en Polynésie française : quelles conséquences sanitaires ? », 4 mars 2021.Sébastien Philippe, Tomas Statius, Toxique. Enquête sur les essais nucléaires français en Polynésie, Presses Universitaires de France, 2021.Louis Antoine de Bougainville, Voyage autour du monde, Paris, 1771.INA, Voyage sans passeport - 24.10.1959.Marie-Hélène Villierme, L'élu du peuple - Pouvanaa te Metua, 2018.RFI, La Marche du Monde, « Essais nucléaires, des mémoires polynésiennes », 25/02/2022.France Culture, « Mururoa, le colonialisme nucléaire », 3 septembre 2020.Polynésie 1, « Nucléaire : deux sœurs, une même maladie mais un traitement différent du CIVEN », 14/03/21. Notre politique de confidentialité GDPR a été mise à jour le 8 août 2022. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

Bis heute totgeschwiegen: Ein ehemaliger Soldat berichtet Ein paar Jahre zuvor: Madeleine und ihr Mann Benjamin fliegen für ihre Hochzeitsreise auf die andere Seite der Welt, nach Französisch-Polynesien. Auf ihrem Backpacking-Abenteuer lernen sie Roland kennen, bei dem sie ein paar Nächte unterkommen. Am Abend blicken Benjamin, Madeleine und Roland, mit der Silhouette von Mururoa im Hintergrund, gemeinsam auf die Lagune Tahitis. Sie sitzen zwischen wunderschönen Bananenstauden, trinken Bier und erzählen von ihrem Leben. Was nach einem romantischen Urlaubsabend klingt, wird schnell zu einer schockierenden Offenbarung: Roland erzählt, er habe vor 30 Jahren die Atomtests in Französisch-Polynesien begleitet. Im heutigen OCEAN CRIME: Maja und Madeleine beleuchten das größte Umweltverbrechen weltweit seit dem Zweiten Weltkrieg: Die Atomtests auf Mururoa. Dafür sprechen sie mit Roland und Vaiana, die beide Opfer der Geschichte sind, und diskutieren, was das Verbrechen für die Menschen und Meeresbewohner damals bedeutet hat und welche Spuren es bis heute hinterlässt. Erfahre in dieser Folge, warum und wie die Atomtests vertuscht werden und was das konkret für dich bedeutet. Hier geht's zu den im Podcast diskutierten Mururoa Files – alle Fakten zum Nachlesen: https://moruroa-files.org/en/ Wenn du die Folge gehört hast, bietet diese Dokumentation eine gute Untermalung in Bildern, selbst wenn du Französisch nicht verstehst: Nucléaire en Polynésie : en quête de vérité | Documentaire inédit LCP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVA8ZCkcvKo Für deinen Call-to-Action folge gern der Association 193: Homepage: http://www.association193.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ASSOCIATION193/ Unterschreibe die Petition gegen Greenwashing der Atomenergie: https://www.change.org/p/eu-kommissionschefin-ursula-von-der-leyen-und-eu-kommissar-frans-timmermans-super-gau-für-europas-energiewende-stoppt-das-greenwashing-von-atomkraft-und-gas 100 gute Gründe gegen Atomkraft: https://www.100-gute-gruende.de ___ Du hast eine Idee oder ein konkretes Thema für einen unserer nächsten OCEAN CRIMES? Dann schreibe uns eine Mail an: oceancrime@bracenet.net ___ Mehr über BRACENET:

Cette année-là… Chirac et Balladur sont dans un bateau, qui tombe à l'eau ? La France reprend ses essais nucléaires à Mururoa, les Stones dynamitent Paris et la française Jeanne Calment devient la doyenne de l'humanité.

the land is my ancestorPatty So, anyway, so we're here with Keolu Fox. Chanda had made this comment, quoting you about the land is my ancestor, and that is a scientific statement. And she was just completely taken by that comment. And then so was I. And that's really all I've been thinking about. Because it's just such a, it's just such a neat way of thinking and understanding our relationship with the other than human world and our connection to place, and all of that. And so yeah, so now I'm going to let you introduce yourself. And what you mean by that phrase, when you say the land is our ancestor,KeoluRoger that. Aloha everybody, my name is Keolu Fox and my mo'oku'auhau, or my genealogical connection or origin is to the Kohala Kapaʻau  which is the northernmost district of the Big Island of Hawaii. And I'm joining you from the Kumeyaay nation here in La Jolla. And it's a beautiful day, it's always a beautiful day here. But I'm a genome scientist, I focus on all kinds of things. And mostly, I have been really thinking about that idea.And I've been centering around that idea for a little bit. Because many of you know, there have been a lot of things going on where we live, where we're from the Big Island right now. Our volcano is active, and Pele is letting her hair down. But we have another very sacred place. And that's Mauna a Wākea, Mauna Kea, right? There have been all of these protests in this, this tension that's kind of like, played out in a lot of different ways. Because we have a problem with settler colonialism. And we have scientists, who would rather seek authorization instead of instead of consensus building and taking care to actually asked our people what we want.And so I thought about this idea of like, what is actually shaping our genomes over time, right? We always have these comments about our, our genealogical connection to the Āina, right? Like one of my favorite online scholars, was a medical doctor, his name's Dr. N. Emmett Aluli., is always saying the health of the land is the health of the people and the health of the people is the health of the land. And when you think about that, historically, it's actually the same thing. So, what our community is saying about a, hey do you need to dig four stories into the Earth, into this Āina, you know, not only our ancestors buried there, and there’s fresh water aquifers, and there's, it's a very sacred place for cultural protocol. But it's also our ancestor.And so I think that gets lost to a lot of my Western colleagues with a certain worldview, they're, they're willing to accept the idea that, you know, natural selection, and Charles Darwin and these finches on these islands have been shaped by this different geography. But they're not willing to accept it in terms of humans, because they're human exceptionalists. So from our point of view, it's like, we are, the Mauna, the Mauna is us, it really has shaped our genomes. So has the ebb and flow of the moana, the ocean. So has high elevation in the Himalayas.  So in that sense, you know, I think Indigenous people have it right, because we have not really completely separated ourselves from the Āina.That's why we believe in sustainability. We, you know, indigeneity is sustainability. Like it's the, it's synonymous. And I can give you a bunch of examples, but I think, I think that idea is really powerful, because it allows you to like, with just complete fluidity, connect all of these really important ideas around natural selection and evolution, and also Indigenous epistemology. And if you look historically to like the ways we talk about biological complexity in the Kumulipo, which is an ancient origin chant, which was famously translated by Queen Liliuokalani. And you'll see that like, if you look at where this this, this story starts this chant is Pule, where it begins is with like darkness. Right? And then we get into single celled organisms, slime molds, and then we build up the complexity you see over time. And, and, and I'm not like an authority scholar on that. But I think it's so important that it's not. It's not wrong at all. You know, in fact, it was right before, maybe somebody like Charles Darwin had put it together in English. So I think that's a really important idea. And the ways that we think about evolution and natural selection in our relationship to the Āina is really important.Patty Yeah, I'm reading right now, though, I always have, like, so many books close to me, Salmon and Acorns, Feed Our People. And early on in the book, she kind of makes a very similar point, because she's talking about the Kuruk people in Northern California, and the interconnectedness of the salmon and the water and the people and the geography and, you know, and how we impact the environment and the environment impacts them. And it goes, you know, and everything just kind of keeps weaving, weaving back and forth. It. And I think you're right, I mean, in that connection that we have, that is indigeneity, the, you know, kind of that maintaining that connection, but now I you know, as we talk about that, you know, I'm looking at Kerry, who's part of the you know, the African diaspora who maybe doesn't know, you know, kind of she talks about, you know, connecting with Ghana, but not, I'm gonna let you talk about that.After you turn your mic on, I'm gonna let you talk about that*laughter* Today, I learned from AW Peet to talk about turning your mic on rather than being mute. Yeah, I can you're going to be ableist. learn from AW on a daily basis. I love them.Kerry Okay, thank you for that reminder, because I have the headset going and then clicked off. And I didn't realize both really does matter. So anyway, what was coming to mind for me as I was listening to this conversation, and, you know, just feeling into this information. You know, what just came up just from, like, I think it's that soul space is, of course we are, and what comes up when we think about, you know, the earth, you know, the space of our being, being connected through this human genome being a part of the earth and all of it being interconnected. Why? What I what I believe has happened is, as we have moved into this colonial space, that disconnection is been such a disruption that has affected our genome, and had has us acting in ways that is not like ourselves, and what what I take when we think about myself and my, my Blackness, in, in my wanting to know, where my where I come from, I feel into this ancestral memory. And I know, it's an epigenetic memory of something that my, my ancestry has not known for a very long time. And yet, I feel it. And that's why when we are having this conversation, I was so interested, I've been reading and listening and watching some of your work in the last day, actually, I really sat down and watched it. And it's, it makes me go in, it makes me go to that deep space. And what what do we offer out? Or what words would you offer out for those of us who don't have that direct connection? And yet the earth that special, that special link is calling us?KeoluHmm, I think that is a brilliant question. And I think like couching it that way, too, because of the forced migration of people is still a diaspora. Right? And that is a really powerful and important idea in terms of thinking about, it's not just shaping our genome or mo'oku'auhau and our genealogy but we have this term we love in Hawaii and it's Ka mua, ka muri, and it means walking backwards into the future. And actually, we say that all throughout throughout the moanoculture. So Tahiti, Marquesas, Samoa, Maori, like we all We all say this this term. And I think it's a really important thing to think about.So when we like when we think about our radiation and diaspora, across the Pacific, if I just focus on island people, we have a founder people who are on waapa, right? They're on boats, they're going they find a new place. They represent like a fraction of that genomic diversity that existed in the original place or position. That's not so different than a forced migration. No, I mean, very similar. Then you have the arrival later, of settlers, and you get like these population collapses. And so what happens is that population that's made it to Hawaii, or you know, really any Indigenous community from Hernan Cortes, to James Cook, this encounter with colonialism, again, shapes our genome, and we can see this, when we look at the genomes of modern Indigenous people, we can see this decrease in human leukocyte antigen HLA diversity. So in that sense, it's like, the geography shapes our genome over time. It does, we are the Āina, but so do our encounters with genocide, so do our encounters with and those are like, that means that everybody that's, that's Hawaiian, for example, is a survivor of that event.It also means that the way we attenuate inflammation, which is the root cause of common complex disease, from everything from heart disease, to cancer to and, you know, insulin sensitivity, COVID-19, all of these things are a reflection of our history. Now, our methods are getting so sensitive at identifying these things, that it's a matter of maybe asking ethical questions and saying, maybe we need more people from our communities to ask the hard questions, to build these and help prioritize these scientific questions. And iteratively kind of co-design and co-partner with the communities that we come from, because the truth is, these are hard questions to ask. Like, like, I think in our lifetimes, we will be able to determine what the impact on people's health is of the transatlantic slave trade.And that is not a question for me to ask, though. Right. And I and I don't think that like that positionality, like, when I started this job, as a professor, someone told me, “You know, we think it's weird that you're Hawaiian, and you would want to work with Hawaiian communities. That's not objective.” And I had to fall back for a second, I was like, I'm really shocked that you would ask that some anybody would say that, you know, but that is how like, that is the status quo. And how brainwashed people are in academia like that is how few people from our communities make it into these leadership positions to be primary investigators for these major projects. These people are so not in tune with being like they work with, like Margaret Mead or something, right? Like, she's not Samoan. That's why she had all these dumb ideas. Right? Right. Like think about it like that would never?You know, there's just tremendous insight that our people have when we work with our communities. One, if you f**k up, you can't go home for Christmas. Go home for the holidays you’re already home. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like there's, there's like a kuleana, like an obligation to your people and our health and all these other things. But also, it's like ensuring that the questions we ask are prioritized by our communities. I think I think we're getting there. And I think the way that we're interpreting the data is so much more advanced too, you know, and we're just getting started. So it's gonna be a beautiful future. But, you know, but I think that these questions aren't, aren't easy to ask, you know, soPatty You talk about Just So Stories that you know, the Rudyard Kipling stories, but then you apply them to the scientific process. And that's kind of what this is making me think is, you know, because we come up with these ideas, or we like scientists, colonial scientists come up with these ideas, and who is in the room takes very much what questions are being asked, Can you unpack that a little bit about the Just So Story so that people know what I'm talking about?KeoluYeah, that's a that's, that's a great like, it's a child’s story from Rudyard Kipling. who like if people who are listening don't know you, maybe you've heard of The Jungle Book, or you heard of the book Kim. Some of these old school, you know, they're like pretty colonial they take place in India, mostly. But he wrote this child's book for his daughter. And the book kind of has these funny stories where they explain like why is the elephant's nose so long? Well the elephants nose is so long because they got tugged on for 30 minutes by an alligator when he was trying to drink some water or whatever, right? But what what these two scientists in this I want to say late 70s? Peter No. Yeah, Stephen Jay Gould and Richard Lewontin. What they did is they said well, these these ideas are used to explain evolutionary things like their their adapt their what they call adaptionist narrative. So it's like, I can use an evolutionary narrative to explain innateness and this gets really dangerous and can become super racist, because it's used to justify shitty correlative science.So, so and I had this mentor and he would always tell me, you know, tell me 2genes, any two genes in the genome, there's like 20,000 genes, and buy me a whiskey and I'll tell you a story. And what he was trying to say was, I can make a correlative story about anything statistically. But that doesn't mean that it like mechanistically is true. So what you see is people invoking adaptionism, natural selection and evolution, to justify really racist science that discredits the accomplishments of Indigenous people, for example.So one of the examples I love to give is this Thrifty Gene narrative where they're like, oh, you know, and, you know, we know, we know, we're not dummies, we know we have a problem with type two diabetes and obesity in our community. We also know that Hawaiian people are really big, Samoan people are really big. We're all big. But part of it has to do with, you know, many different factors. Part of it is colonialism, because you took away our access to the reefs, and our rights around land stewardship, and hunting and fishing and all these other things. So when you replace those traditional food ways with spam, white rice and soy sauce, what do you think you get? Right.But when you say that the reason we have this problem is is a genetic innateness. That comes from our diaspora. That's racist, right? So why do those narratives get perpetuated in really popular scientific journals, they end up in the media, and it comes down to discrediting our voyaging accomplishments. Because if you've ever talked to any navigator, they'll tell you, these waapa, these boats were filled to the brim with sweet potato, taro, pigs, chicken, all kinds of things, there was never a problem with like scarcity of calories. So how would we develop a problem where we become sensitive to or have problems with hyper caloric storage in a modern-day setting? You see what I'm saying?And so like it gets, it gets wound up and entangled into these racist narratives in the way that they describe, maybe genome sequence data. What we do see with this mutation in this gene, it's called CRE BRF. And it's privately found in the Pacific amongst Hawaiians, we've even found it in the Chamorro and Guam. And what we see with it is it's actually associated with muscle density. And there was a follow up study, I believe in Aotearoa. It's showing that Polynesian rugby players of a, you know, of Polynesian or Maori ancestry have a higher frequency of this mutation. So it's more like a tall, dark and handsome mutation that has to do with BMI and athletic performance than it is like a thrifty mutation that predisposes us to obesity. But do you see how different it is when I'm just choosing that, that as an example, we could do this with sickle cell? We could be like, Oh, it makes people from Equatorial Africa weak. Or we could say no, this is, this is actually truly remarkable in the way that how many people have died from malaria, you know, so it's really about it's really about how you interpret the mutations and what they actually do. But if you don't have mechanistic evidence, then why are you making up and spinning these b******t narratives that discredit our accomplishments as people?Kerry I'm really just fascinated with this conversation and and where you're going with this because one of the pieces I was reading when you were speaking, talks about how most of the studies when we look at the genome, when we look at you know, breaking down the genetic understanding of things really has not done has not been done on Indigenous and People of Color. And so, you know, hearing you break that down, because we too have supposedly a pre disposition for type two diabetes and high blood pressure. It gives that different perspective. And I remember once I don't know, I remember hearing Oprah speak about that in the Black community. And I don't know who she she had been speaking to a scientist of some sort. And I remember some of the information that came out was the one of the reasons why from a Black standpoint, we seem to have had a propensity, because we, even in the Middle Passage, why we survived some of the challenges was because we had an ability to take in salt, our ability to hold salt in our thing, which does lead to the type two diabetes or the high blood pressure. But because we had this mutation, it actually was one of those things that afforded us to survive the atrocities of that passage, because we were able to to absorb and survive less, or our salt intakes kept our water levels or our electrolytes higher, something along those lines. Don't quote me, it was a long time ago, that I heard that, but I remember that stuck to me, because it's what you're speaking about, it's the way that the perspectives are put forward to us. Right. And, you know, normally when we put it that way, it's almost, I've always seen it, or the system puts those those narratives out to us, to keep us feeling less than. That somehow, right, somehow that structurally, our genetic or genomes or makeup is not, as you know, valuable, or as put together as some. And when we then talk about this idea that it has not, we haven't even been studied in the same way. How, how does those two things play off of each other?KeoluYes. Yeah. I mean, um, so first and foremost, I'm so glad you mentioned that, that, that it's like we're taking a, pardon the pun, but it's a minority of the data, if it's 90% of genome wide studies, they've mostly included people of Western European ancestry. So, you're making all these inferences and narrativizing data? You know, less than 1% of these studies have included Indigenous people, very small percentages of included individuals of African ancestry, and that's a continent.I want to put some things into context. It's like that is the origin of mankind. We spent more time there than anywhere else on planet Earth, it has more genetic diversity, languages, cultural diversity, food, culture. I mean, it is heritage, it's it's so to reduce it again, as a monolith to one continent isn't nuts, that's one. And then, and then we have all of these other conversations that go around there. And to your point about the the salt slavery hypertension hypothesis, which is a very, which is a very interesting idea. Again, it's a narrative that's popularized, but but again, it's not been taken to task in a way where it's either been proven or disproven, because we don't have enough data for that.So of course, when you build narratives, it's going to be it's not going to be in service of a community, you're not going to ask questions about how much stress to these people have every day? Is that a factor? What about people's diets? What about people's access to healthy food, and all of these other kind of metrics that are probably more informative and predictive of people's health.  So I'm not saying that genomics doesn't play a role it does. But again, the the way that you we create narratives around it. Now then let's look at the other side of the coin, because this is the most brutal part 95% of clinical trials feature white people. So, we're not even designing drugs for our people in the way that we were like, designing drugs for one population and then giving it to other people.Or I worked in blood transfusion research for a while. And we would have 90% of people who donate blood are white, and then and then the, the kind of inverse of that, you know, sickle cell patients are Black. You see what I'm saying? Like it's a it's a stark contrast. We're literally giving somebody a temporary organ, we're infusing them with blood that includes all types of diversity of RNA from one other, you've seen what mRNA can do now. Having, now we're taking RNA from one person and giving it to another and we're not really thinking about what the consequences of that are. So I'm just saying we've not really thought everything through it a more thoughtful way, because we haven't had the attention to detail with population specific medicine. And I'm hoping that over the next few decades, that becomes something that's really importantKerry That, that I love that so much that really resonates with me because my brother, my brother in law, actually doesn't have sickle cell. But he carries the sickle cell trait. And he also carries the Thalassemia traits. And interestingly, we were just together, it's our, it's our Thanksgiving here in Canada. And we were just down at I was just over at their house. And he's having an episode, where yeah, he's having a sickle cell episode. And it's, you know, he's had several over the years, he's, you know, he's been in our family for 30 years, and I can’t even believe that, but um, we, you know, he's been around. And what we've noticed is my, my niece carries the sickle cell trait, and she gets mild symptoms, she gets very mild, like, sometimes, you know, the fingers tingle, she'll have a stressful event and, you know, really be in pain at the extremities and some of the same things that her father has, but not to the same degree. And well, it's interesting when you bring this up, it, it tells me how little we understand, because technically, he doesn't have the disease. And yet he gets exactly the symptoms, and it has been treated in the same ways, even though they're not exactly sure how and why it's happening. And I bring that up, because it's exactly what you're saying that there's there's, the studies don't extend far enough. Right. And while there, we manage it, it's it's almost been like, I shouldn't say this, but when when the doctors that have been treating him for a long time get around, he's been like a test subject, a bit of a unique case. And it's been trial and error. You know, they've tried different things to see what's worked, and thank goodness. I mean, he's, we can get him through them. But it's, it was something that struck me that it's a unique space, and not very much is known about how to make it work for him. So they, you know, throw things at it. It's hope it's been it sticks so far. Right?KeoluYeah. I mean, we I mean, you know, things get even more complex, when you're you come from a place like Hawaii, they showed in the census data, that we are the most diverse state state in the United States of America. And we, I mean that in by and that's like a long shot. And also we have the highest percentage of mixed ancestry people. And it's been like that for a while. And you know, and that that means that things get a little more complex. And we need to really think about what the future of medicine is going to look like, especially if it's predictive and preventative.Patty  28:10I’m  just thinking it's not that long ago that people were saying that Indigenous people were genetically predisposed to alcoholism. I remember hearing that as a kid. And I think there was a brochure had just come out not that long ago. About some Cree guides, it was a, it was a fishing camp. In northern, I think it was Manitoba, did not to give alcohol to the guides, because they're genetically predisposed to alcoholism. And it was like, these ideas and they take root. They take root, and they don't go anywhere, because they keep medicine, you know, Western medicine, Western scientists, they keep looking for the problem in us. There is something wrong with our genetics, something wrong with our makeup, you got to fix us. There's nothing wrong with colonialism. And with the imposition of you know, this change in diet. And I mean, one of the things in this book that they talk about is the salmon run and how it's gone. It's 4% of what had happened. And that's, you know, so that's a significant change in their diet, which leads to a significant change in their health. You know, because like you said, now they're eating spam and flour.KeoluOh, yeah. I think that's so fascinating. It's like we it's kind of like a slippery slope Sometimes, though, because we can point to actual examples where where we are, I mean, and sickle cell is such a great example. And so is high elevation, adaption and all of these incredible ways in which we are a reflection of the Āina. You know, but when I tell my colleagues, we're going to empirically measure the impact of colonialism on the genome, they're like, whoa whoa whoa,  I don't like that. We don't like that. You know, and you have to think about it. I mean, it's it's about how we choose to. I mean, I obviously like I often do that to make people feel uncomfortable, because I want them to know how we felt going through these medical schools and education programs throughout the whole time, because now we're wielding the power of being able to prioritize the question, and that's unique now. And it feels good. But but but also, but also, um, we want it to have impact. You know, I don't we don't want to tell people where they came from. That's not important to us. That's not a question we prioritize. But if it has a role in thinking about how we can predict and prevent disease, or create treatments that speak to our history, then that's important. And I think I think we're getting there. And yeah, we just, you know, we need to we need more students that like and where the prototype Wait, till you see the next generation? Man? They're like,Patty Yeah, well, I know. You know, we, we have been talking about, you know, studying Kerry often talks about epigenetics, you know, kind of studying the long term impacts of trauma. And I've heard a few people asking what where's the long term studies on the impact of affluence or influence on the impact of greed on some of these ultra wealthy families? What how does that affect their genome? Like, are they genetically predisposed to being selfish a******s? What's going on?KeoluRegarding the epigenetic stuff, we have a new project that we're working on. And yeah, and I mean, I think we're gonna get get to the point of point, point and position where we have tools that are sensitive enough to, you know, ask answer the questions that we that we have, and provide solutions that might result in better better treatments for our people, right.And one of them is the effect of testing nuclear bombs in the Pacific. And this is, you know, my auntie, who is a female, Native Hawaiian colonel, she's retired now. Amazing person. But she spent a lot of time in various places. And I mean, the things that we've we, you know, she's she's told me about and the types of health infrastructure that exists and the rates of different types of cancer that are telltale signatures of nuclear radiation exposure. I mean, it is just astonishing, what you'll see in the Marshall Islands and how Henry Kissinger is like, ah, 50,000 people, that's just a statistic, who cares? Or Jacques Chirac, reinstating nuclear testing programs in French Polynesia, or, you know, among the Tuamotu Island archipelgaos there and Mururoa. And the rates of cancer were seen. And these are telltale signatures, you know, the, the thyroid cancers, the lymph node cancers, the leukemias, and I guess the question is, one, can you detect that? Is it is it going to be a signature of in the genome that is independent of inherited cancer? Is it baked into the genome in a transgenerational way, which would be, that'd be epigenetic inheritance, which in my opinion, is straight up genocide, there should be real reparations for this. And then can we design better types of chemotherapy that speak to that, because if it is, has a unique architecture, and it is a unique signature, then we need better drugs for our people. And the French people need to pay for it. And those are the facts.And so and so here, we are now approaching new questions that we can use these tools for ones that allow us to move forward in terms of medical advancement, but also in terms of our goals of achieving justice. And I am so stoked about these new projects, because I feel like I was born for this s**t. Also, also, because we're capable, and our people deserve better. You know, and I think that's going to inspire other scientists who are way more brilliant than, than I am. To, to come up with with with solutions. But this these are some of the new projects that we're working on.And I'm not afraid of the French government. They know what they did. They tested 193 nuclear bombs over from 1966 to 1996. Think about how recent that is, wow. And then they had the nerve to name their new hospital after Jacques Chirac. And that was when I was like in Paeete in Tahiti, that's such a slap in the face. So from my point of view, and these are my brothers and sisters, you know, those are my my ancestors, my kupuna so you got to understand when you test nuclear bombs in the Pacific, it doesn't just sit there. I mean, you have ocean currents, wind currents, I mean, some of the stuff we're hearing about. So, and those happen to be this is the most important part, these happen to be questions that that community has prioritized as far as health issues go. So here we are.Patty Yeah. And it's, and that's so important because they, they come, people come in, they have these ideas, they want to, you know, with colonial, you know, they see the problem, they're gonna fix it, they're gonna, you know, they're, and then they're, you know, they're doing their studies and their, you know, their outcome measures and all the rest of it. And there's no, there's no relationship, there's no relationship building, at the front end, any relationship that they start is just so that they can come in and help and so that they can come in and fix this. And it's like, they keep doing this. And things just keep getting worse from our point of view. But then that just keeps clearing more land from their point of view. So I understand why ...KeoluMm hmm.Kerry That, you know, I think it gives a new meaning to that saying the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I very often feel that, you know, it's too we see how there seems to be a playbook. And the playbook shows up over and over and over. And any Indigenous any, you know, native communities of any origin around the world. And that idea that the Western colonial system has to come in and fix us. Right, Oh, normally has that underlying agenda, where, you know, they're, they're coming to help. But then, you know, it was like a backhanded help. Because we're, we're always, you know, ass out, pardon my French, you know, especially with the French and any of the other colonials that have come in and created the systems to which we're now having to dig out and build our resiliency up against. And that's, I think, also, another part of this that I'd love to see or hear what your thoughts on about it, is the remarkable way that we have been able to adjust and adapt. Right. Yeah, I really think that that's something that has been so powerful amongst peopleKeoluYeah, I totally agree with that. I'm, my mom is such a genius. She's like the Hawaiian MacGyver, you know, like, she just really figures out ways to engineer all kinds of systems with limited resources. And we live in a pretty rural, isolated place. And, you know, I'm on the phone with her. And she's like, oh, yeah, the truck door, it's not coming for three months, it's on backorder, or this generator part. It's not, it's not coming. But we did this, and so on and so forth. And you see how much ingenuity and genius exists in our communities in all these beautiful ways. And I wouldn't have it any other way. Unless, you know, things became very differently.Now, when we contrast like where we live with other areas, where there's like hotel and tourism, infrastructure, I mean, the things that they need come like *finger snap*, you know, agriculture from the mainland, protein from the mainland, other things. So you just see this contrast and like, what about when we need medical things in our community in the outer islands? Why are you prioritizing capitalism, and profit over our community's health just over and over and over and over again. And I can point to our toxic relationship with tourism throughout this pandemic, because we had an opportunity to push the reset button, right, we had an opportunity to reform and recalibrate and we didn't do it. And that's because we have too many corrupt politicians that are you know what I mean, I'm gonna call it like I see it. I just feel like we had the opportunity to move forward with other forms other, just develop forms of our circular economy, an island system that has all forms of renewable energy.I mean, the island that we live on alone has 11 out of 13 biomes on planet Earth, one of the most biodiverse places on the planet Earth. So why are we the extinction capital of the world? Why are we the invasive species capital of the world? Right? Why do you want to build a golf course here? You know, that's stupid. That's not even a sport, you don't even sweat when you play that I'm talking about. So like that we are very familiar with all these, I mean, the forms of exploitation and the forms of of genius and ingenuity and Futurism, you know, I think that Hawaii is a really incredible place for that. We will continue and whether it's agriculture or ranching or energy sustainability solutions, oceanic sciences, geology, like anything, that's why all these people want to come to our islands to make hay. You know, you know, that we've been, we've been prac ..  How do you think we found these islands? Science? You know? So,Patty yeah, like, when you think like you had talked earlier about, you know, kind of about the Pacific, diaspora and, and, you know, kind of traveling, those are some pretty huge distances requiring some pretty significant knowledge of not just celestial navigation, but winds and ocean currents, and who else is out there, and things that want to eat you and making sure that you have enough food. You know, and who are you gonna call for help when you're on a boat in the middle of the ocean, you got to be pretty resourceful. And like, we don't, we don't often think about that. And that's like, you know, we're so impressed with you know, Columbus, right? It was just Columbus, Indigenous peoples, or whatever. You know, and whoo, you know, he crossed the ocean, whatever. And, you know, 1492, you know, and that was such a major accomplishment. But y'all were all over the Pacific a long time before that.KeoluYou're preaching to the choir, you know, honestly, I just wrote this piece for Indigenous People’s day, Indigenous futures day. And I told you earlier before it's late, yeah. So it'll be out in like, the next 24 hours. But it's about many of those ideas. I mean, we had all of these we had and have all of these super complex. I mean, if you ever get to work or meet some of these master navigators, I mean, they are, they are treasures, like Hawaiian treasures. You know, I mean, they're not all Hawaiin. And, you know, but they're there throughout the Pacific. But, I mean, you're talking about bird migration patterns for land, finding birds, the green turquoise glint on the bottom of a cloud that lets you identify a lagoon from 300 miles away. I mean, you work with these people, and you understand that. It's humbling, you know, people that that are that are operating, and have that skill set.And yeah, I mean, we just got we it was the fastest in less than 1000 years, our kupuna traversed a territory or space of the space of Eurasia, and it wasn't just unidirectional, right. It's like, oceanic superhighway. Complex, dynamic routes back and forth. And I think we're still only beginning to understand what, how truly remarkable that level of travel and comfort on the ocean was. And then when you talk about, like being in tune with the Āina, and how the ocean shapes your genome, I mean, we're talking about people that really understood navigation. And if you're ever out there in the middle of the ocean, and it's not at night, because at night, it gives you a little comfort, and you can use the Milky Way. Right. But, but I mean, during the day, it's just like overwhelmingly confusing. But over there with with the, you know, the Inuit and the Yupik that very similar, I've been been to that part of town and I'm like, oh, it's white everywhere. And it's kind of scary.Patty It just keeps going.  I’ve been up to Iqaluit on Baffin Island. You don't want to leave, like my son lived. My son lived there for 18 months. And he would like to go hiking out on the on the tundra. And he was warned, don't go too far. Like make sure that you can keep certain landmarks in sight. Because you get past the wrong hill. And you're done. You can walk for three days and you won't find anything. So you know to navigate that is just ..  and yet they navigated it circumpolar navigation there. You know, traveling across it only looks far apart. And then you tip the Earth on its side and you can see how connected those circumpolar people are and how actually close together they are. And we forget, we don't think about it like that, because we're so used to looking at the Globe in a particular way. And it's a very Eurocentric way of looking at it.KeoluOh, yeah. No doubt about that. But I saw these little maps, these wooden carved maps, and they were made. I forget, I want to say it was Upik. But it might have been anyway. But it was a used by people who are hunting. They use it as a way to like, understand the coastline in which they're cruising. Oh, I forget what it's called. Yeah, I'll try to find it. I'll send it to you guys afterwards. “Yeah, probably, it's called this.”Patty:*laughing* And I'll remember what you were talking about.Kerry I love that so much. You see what I'm what really comes to me through this whole course of the conversation is what how brilliant. We all are. And, and when we are given the opportunity to stand and feel into and create our own truths. It shifts this enormous and enormously, we shift the space, we really get these new, innovative, which really are connecting back into the old ways anyway. But we can we can get this beautiful space of melding the old, into the new and refreshing allowing ourselves to remember what I think we've already known. And and when I hear, you know, that they're, they're now starting to study the how how people were navigating the seas, and that, you know, it's like a superhighway. And once again, what keeps resoundingly in my head, I always say the ancestors sit on my shoulders. And I'm hearing somebody's going, of course, it was, you know, sometimes we are so removed, because of the view that we sit in right from this colonial Western viewpoint. That it always was. And we're not just talking about, like a period of time, we're talking about real time, people who were living their lives, people who were, you know, creating these experiences, you know, determining their destinies and the end the laneways of the oceans. And I think it's so important to bring that piece of the humanity back, understanding that Mother Earth, Gaia, whatever we want to call this space was connected to that space connected to that be. And I think that's what innately we bring. If that makes sense.KeoluOh, absolutely. It makes sense. I was reading this thing recently about the way that whale bladders are used to make all of the, the skin for the different kayak. They did like this mathematical approximation of like, what would be the perfect aerodynamic or hydrogen dynamic dimensions of this watercraft? And what would it look like if you were to, like, optimize it. And the I mean, over time, First Nations people hit it on the nose, it's absolutely perfectly engineered. It's light, it's packable. And the material I mean you speak to you like using all of the materials of the creature that you're honoring, you know. And that bladder is the perfect material, it’s material sciences. I mean, it's lightweight, its transparent and almost almost camouflaged. And it is impermeable, and it is the same exact thing they used for their parka.And I got I was thinking about that I couldn't stop thinking about it, because it is so perfectly optimized over time. And that it speaks to the local complexity of that environment. And this is the problem with a lot of capitalism, too. It's like, we started this Indigenous Futures Institute here. And the whole goal is to seek that local complexity in every technology that we engineer. Everything that we create should be in context to that environment, just like our genomes, just like that parka just like that the waapa, the way that our ancestors over a long ass period of time finally figured out that if you put two hulls next to each other, you can go anywhere in the world to the most remote islands in the world. If you displace weight and water and make it hydrodynamic that way. And look at all of the models they use for like the America's Cup, for all these like carbon fiber. They're all catamarans and trimarans and so that's our intellectual property, and Larry Ellison better recognize that and pay my people. Because you, you know what I mean, you're talking about these are the fastest boats in the world. That's our stuff. So like, but I just look to all of the ingenuity and context of the environment. And I'm like, Man, I can't stop my mouth is just like *pantomimes open mouth*, amazing. It's amazing. So I just, you know, basically want to spend the rest of my life looking for more that it's everywhere. Yeah.Patty And then what capitalism does though is it takes that one particular model, and then it just wants to replicate it all over the world.  It works here. And let's just do this everywhere. Let's just manufacture mass manufacturing, everywhere. And that's, I love what you're talking about with that Institute. Let's look at the local diversity, that and then look at, look at that local diversity and build that as opposed to just let's just, you know, now we're just gonna scatter it all over the world. And everybody's got to do it.KeoluYes. That's our EK, like, I was thinking about this new initiative in Vancouver, like, if you're listening all my Indigenous peeps in Vancouver, and you're doing that four block stretch, and you're the architect and engineering people on that job. And this is some serious land back stuff. So what they do with it is the most important thing, because you have to show the rest of the world that you're the leader in this s**t. Do not borrow ideas from other places in the world. Make sure that that speaks to your heritage, your accomplishments, your peoples engineering, and make the most be and it will be perfect. But if you try to borrow ideas, we're gonna put Hanging Gardens from India, these bridges and da da, that no, that's that's their thing in Kerala. That's right, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's a trap.Kerry I love this so much, because I think you're right. And I, I think what you're saying too, is, is it's so timely. And it's almost imperative that we hear that, because the earth as we are moving into this next phase environmentally,  we have seen that, that idea of just kind of taking some, you know, status quo prototype sort of thing and dumping it here and dumping it here, there doesn't work well. And I to really, for us to look at this, and I think shifts some of the tides, we're gonna have to get creative, innovative, in so much of understanding each ecosystem, and this idea of the biodiversity of spaces, and working out uniquely, how are we going to be able to affect it to slow down what you know is going on right now, this is very, right, like this is a time where we really have to bring that front and center. And I think these are some of the conversations that I haven't heard really happening, least from the governmental but you know, whoever is in charge spaces, they're just talking about cutting emissions. But I think that idea of narrowing it down has to come front and center,KeoluAgreed Trudeau has to take the colonial wax out of his ears and pay attention to the geniuses in your community. Like pay attention. I think it's so interesting too, because in Hawaii, you know, we we grew up with this, not only was our genome shaped by this ingenuity, but we watched this like dialectically intertwined phenomenon. So we have this Ahupua`a system in Hawaii. So from the top of the the moku all the way down to the ocean, we have this this like sustainable gardening gravity system. And the way it works is like you have freshwater at the top that leads to you know your sweet potato, people in what you're gonna kill me. Sweet potato patch and then you know those from the sweet potato patch and all the phytonutrients from there go into this next garden and all the phytonutrients from there go into the lo’I  which is the taro patch and then those then that bacteria goes into the fish pond where you've created this, you know, artificial fishery environment right on the water and you've stacked stones around so you get like the fish growing and eating in the mangroves and then it cannot go out the hole that it came in because it's too big so can't even get to the reef and it's this complete, then you take the leftover fish and you bring it to the top for fertilize you get I'm saying like it's a complete circular economic system. It's engineered for its invisibleOkay, that's why John Mayer arrives in f*****g excuse me. He arrives in Yosemite and he's like, Wow, this place is pristine and did it and these people are like, bro, we've been cultivating this Āina for 1000s of years, right? That's our our technology systems are invisible. They have been designed to be infinity loops. Right, we talk about the parka. I mean, I could break down any one of those technologies and show you why it's an invisible infinity loop. Let's contrast that with capitalism and optimizing every single system for exponential growth and profit. If it's going this way (upwards), that's not good. It needs to go this way (circular). And so if it's not working within the circular system, and then you have all these other people who's the lady who's talking about donut economics, it's like, okay, you stole our IP. Maybe they're going to give you a MacArthur Genius Grant, another one that should have went to an Indigenous person, you know, can you do, but I think that the that a lot of these large institutions are starting to get hip to it and realize that, that, that they the things that were invisible to them are starting to take shape. You know,Kerry What, what's in the dark always comes to light. And, and I find that interesting, though, is that, you know, just based on what we know, a western culture to do, is that a space that, you know, we want them to know, in that way? I think, for me, what what comes up is making sure we stay front and center and that we're ready to snatch back.KeoluYeah, right. Your IP, the IP thing. I mean, I think we really need to get in I'm we've started a whole kind of Indigenous ventures focus on intellectual property, because we have to position our communities, because that is a great way. And we've started a number of different companies that are really focused on that mechanism. It's like benefit sharing. How do we bring the money back to the people? So let's like for example, let's say you have a community that's adapted to high elevation in the Himalayas, okay, I'm just going to pick them. And we find a genetic mutation that allows us to expedite the development of a new drug to make the next I don't know Viagra. Okay,Pattyokay. High altitude Viagra. But,KeoluI mean, I'm saying this, and it sounds like science fiction, but this is happening. Now, there are multiple companies that are interested in this, okay? Right, okay. Because they know that who did all the legwork for you? Evolution, and if I can zero in on them on a molecule that allows me to understand how to make a new drug, I will do that. And I will patent that information. And I will put that drug on the market.Now, what this company Variant Bio is doing is they're saying, no, actually, we give X percentage of the royalties and intellectual property to the community in which it's derived, they have benefit, they have a benefit sharing clause, okay. And a large portion of that money goes back into select programs that are involved in cultural revitalization practices, education, health care, all the drugs that are created, in partnership with that community, they're either given to the community for free or at cost. So, none of these like Vertex Drug.  Americans are the worst the drug hits the market, it's $300,000 a year and you have can only get access to it through your insurance company. So they're like disrupting the whole relationship.Now, here's the beauty of it. That's because these companies, if they make money on that, this is the they can buy back land, the exact same land that shaped their genome in the first place. And that's a circular economy there. So, we just have to think about re engineering all of these criminal industries, whether it's big pharma, any sort of energy or resource based company, you know, we're big into Indigenous data sovereignty, right? We've been talking about all of these opportunities, and just recognizing data as a resource, just like timber, just like oil, just like diamonds, any rare earth mineral, you know, and I know that the largest companies in the world are all based on generating, mining, modeling data, big data as a resource, and it's a form of economic value. It is the forum, surpassing oil in 2018, as the most important, valuable commodity on planet Earth. So why aren’t our people getting a cut of that?Kerry We you've touched something, I would love to hear more about that. Maybe sending out some research just at the center of understanding of intellectual property, I would love to hear more and how, you know, because that to me, now. Now we're talking about a real way, tangible, fundamental way to shift power. And I think that that one will speak it speaks so loudly and in a language that the capitalist system would understand.  And I think if we that that's something powerful to spread the word on,KeoluI was going to say we're starting a kind of Indigenous intellectual property patent troll entity, because we have to play offense, it seems like often more often than not, were reacting to things or we're writing like these policy pieces, or, dare I say, ethics pieces where we're trying to get people to play book. And then then like a lot of our colleagues, they end up kind of window dressing and referencing our paper, but they don't actually do the things we're telling you to do. So, you know, I'm relatively young. So I'm observing this and seeing who's referencing our papers and see why and you know what, f**k this. We're about to make technologies. Now. We're about to make deterrent technologies, safeguarding technologies, and counter technologies, because we have to get in line and be in control.And, you know, a lot of the things we're doing with like native bio data consortium, we recognize what was Ford's secret sauce, when he created the Model T, vertical integration, they controlled everything from the rubber that they extracted in the Amazon, to the ball bearings to the engine, manufacturing, everything on the manufacturing line, they have complete vertical control of our communities need ready, and not limited to: satellites, so we can decrease the digital divide, write our own cloud based web services, so that we can process our own information and safeguard it, right?  file repositories and store our genomes. We have to I mean, we need we need infrastructure. And we need people to stop investing in these bunk, just criminal and dare I say it, mediocre with the lack of innovation, infrastructures that already exist and invest in our people.Kerry I love this so much. I'm, I'm, wow, this This to me is a conversation that I would really like even just take, take this part of it, and when I really enjoy this, because seriously, I think you're that, to me, is a real, practical, revolutionary idea. And not just an idea, you guys are putting it into practice. And it speaks to me, because we often talk in the Black community about doing very much the same thing, building our own infrastructure. And and talking about claiming these pieces. And I think, you know, sharing that information is powerful, because this is the way we can exist in the system, and claim it back for ourselves and reshape it because it's literally a monster, it's like with eight heads. And these are the ways we can cut off some of the heads and maybe they don't grow back. You know, so I would love for us to maybe do this as another conversation like, Wow, very interesting.Patty But we talked so much about presence, right about, about presence, and being visible in things, but presence is not power. No, we can dominate a room, right? Like we can have, like the whole faculty, you know, be Indigenous people. But that doesn't mean that we have any power over the knowledge that we're creating, or the things that we're putting out there, because somebody is still controlling what papers get published, and somebody you know, and the funding for the projects. So you know, so we can have all the presence in the world, that doesn't mean that we have our overt the ability to control our own genetic material, you know, you know, that goes out there, or what happens with, you know, like we were talking about very early on, you know, the stories that get told about the stuff that you know about the things that are already out there, and the meaning that gets invested in that stuff, and then how that drives medical research. And they keep looking for answers in places that only wind up that only support the colonial system. So this is a really interesting and important application of the things that of you know, of the things that we started off talking about.KeoluYeah, I mean, we're just getting started with building a lot of these infrastructures and companies and training the next generation of people so that they can fill these roles and who knows what amazing ideas they're going to have. I mean, we were we're holding it down. I mean, in the health and genomic space. But I think there, just there are other people, I think that are really thinking about ideas in different directions. And I'm looking forward to learning from them. I mean, a lot and a lot of this applies to other things too, like repatriation of ancestors and museum settings and artifacts.Patty Well, we  just talked with Paulette Steeve's about about that. Yeah.KeoluOh mahalo nui for the opportunity, you know, for so long we've not been able to to make decisions or have major leadership roles. I appreciate you guys having me on here and the conversation. And I'd love to come back sometime so …Kerry Oh, well consider it done, we are going arrange that to happen. Consider it done. This was phenomenal. I really appreciate it.Patty Thank you. So thank you so much. I really thought this was so interesting.KerryThank you bye.PattyBaamaapii This is a public episode. 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"What They Are Doing to the Mass" I have before me some photos published in Catholic newspapers representing the Mass as it is now often said. Looking at the first photo I find it difficult to understand at what moment of the Holy Sacrifice it has been taken. Behind an ordinary wooden table, which does not appear very clean and which has no cloth covering it, two persons wearing suits and ties elevate or present, one a chalice, the other a ciborium. The text informs me they are priests, one of them the federal chaplain of Catholic Action. On the same side of the table, close to the first celebrant are two girls wearing trousers, and near the second celebrant two boys in sweaters. A guitar is placed against a stool.In another photo the scene is the corner of a room which might be the main room of a youth club. The priest is standing, wearing a Taizé-like alb, before a milking-stool which serves as an altar; there is a large earthenware bowl and a small mug of the same sort, together with two lighted candle-ends. Five young people are sitting cross-legged on the floor, one of them strumming a guitar.The third photo shows an event which occurred a few years ago, the cruise of some ecologists who were seeking to prevent the French atomic experiments on the Isle of Mururoa. Amongst them was a priest who celebrated Mass on the deck of the sailing ship, in the company of two other men. All three were wearing shorts, one is even stripped to the waist. The priest is raising the Host, no doubt for the elevation. He is neither standing nor kneeling, but sitting or rather slumped against the boat's superstructure.... Read the full book: https://angeluspress.org/products/open-letter-to-confused-catholics

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Kia Ora and good day to you all - I have been away from the radio for a while because of the need to rest and do the usual recharge - but also take in information to build my knowingness as well as rekindle the fire of my innermost interior - you know ... as in keeping my flame healthily glowing. As you very well know with Covid surrounding us - we now live in a tumultuous world we have found ourselves in. To us living here in Nuclear Free New Zealand - we have never experienced as a whole country such turmoil - though when the Christchurch earthquakes hit 10 years ago, our Christchurch kin - suffered thousands of after-shocks for years that were psychologically traumatising for the people of that city and local surroundings. Today we are nearing the anniversary of the first Covid lockdown on the 28th of March of last year and then just last week for those on the East Coast and the North of New Zealand - we experienced the real threat of a tsunami shake us out of bed - to rapidly move to higher ground - this has increased the daily psychological pressure on our nation's people - like never before since mobilising hundreds of thousands and sending many off to war back in 1940 to 1945. So as of this moment countrywide we are on lockdown 1 and with only Auckland City in lockdown two. And as of 6 March 2021, New Zealand has had a total of 2,398 cases (2,042 confirmed and 356 probable. 26 people have died from the virus, with cases recorded in all twenty district health boards. However, we need to question how did all areas of NZ come into contact with Covid? But there is also a larger question and that of the 26 deaths in a country of less than 5 million - this represents an exceptionally tiny fraction - percentage-wise. Deaths: .0005% ; cases 0.04945%  AND NO FLU STATS. Now with Covid, I want to ask - why no babies, no infants, no children, and teenagers dying of covid? - we need to revisit this question as to why are the young ones not as susceptible as the aged? Because, are not babies more vulnerable than most people as they have yet to build up their immune system? Naturally, I trust that in doing so, that healthy Mothers will nurture with their own milk - giving healthy sustenance to their babies. Yes, I also know of the pesticides, herbicides and fungicides that are ubiquitous in our food chain - yes glyphosate too and anxiety medications - but this is another topic for another time ... yet there are so many questions around Covid that need explaining - we are noticing that  ... we can see so many urgent questions and pressure points squeezing our community. I note that within the NZ Government and Health Department Covid briefings on TV, I have never heard them encourage healthy eating and drinking practices. Like to obtain vitamin D from walks out in the sun and like taking in plenty of Vitamin C tablets every day. And there are excellent prices of $20 for 2 months supply. That to encourage us that citrus and fresh fruit and vegetables need to be eaten - which begs the question why does this government not take off GST from fruit and vegetables - like in Australia. Does not the NZ Government want a healthy, self-reliant and resilient workforce and population in general?    Strange is it not?   Also, why are the health authorities not encouraging the intake of fresh vital water that has not been sanitised by chlorine or with the addition now of fluoride? Notice that the current Labour government is pushing for chlorination of all water as well as fluoridation - nationwide. What's the hurry? Especially when it was only recently in Christchurch that the top Canterbury public health official, Dr. Alistair Humphrey has been sacked and is taking legal action against the District Health Board. It was he who fought against chlorinating (sanitising) the city's freshwater supplies. Saying all residents could have been forced to drink treated water, had it not been for him fighting the proposal for blanket chlorination. He also criticised the Ministry of Health for saying they could not do mass vaccination of Canterbury residents.  So you can see that there are battles on numerous fronts within local government in New Zealand with regard to the health and wellbeing of our country's inhabitants. Thus with Covid we have found ourselves engulfed in an asymmetric, hybrid psychological world war - totally foreign to the human condition. Our planet's people from around early 2020 have been under a sustained mental and physical assault. That this event that we are in the middle of - meaning the mind virus that is gnawing its way through the airwaves via TV and radio and print media is accentuating the fear factor that has become a hypnotic attack on humanities daily thought practice and process and it's affecting our hearts of both young and old. Push Back Plan B Yet, in contrast to MSM there is at a micro level across NZ - we are hearing various opinions and insights as to how we as an astute and questioning public can consciously repel this Covid attack. With groups such as Plan B - www.covidplanb.co.nz  - who are a team of professionals Doctors and scientists within NZ - who are saying - hold on - wait a minute there are other points of view and we are able to access these different viewpoints from some of the top Universities from around the world. It is bizarre, as Auckland has just exited the last lockdown, and it was estimated to cost our economy 300 million dollars per week, and as the queues in foodbanks are expected to grow, with the lives of our poorest communities most affected. The mantra of kindness gives cause to question the fallout - around this word. We also have Voices For Freedom - https://voicesforfreedom.co.nz  Three young Mothers have pulled a very focused team to gather to question the Government and edit the mainstream narrative. Voices for Freedom are the NZ communities' response to wanting to do our own research and listen to other doctors, professors, scientists and health professionals to hear their perspective - especially as fake news, lies and untruths are ubiquitous to the world we inhabit. So the imperative to know is... We are entering a period of mass psychosis ... And we have to be like lions and go out and research...  Just to mention a few things - When you look at the slider on GreenplanetFM.com - you will see that we have covered a good number of the challenges that are facing us. But check out our archives on the front page - it's very insightful  - especially last year's interviews. Looking at the larger picture: You will also see that it is one continuous battle - this battle is for clean air, clean healthy water be it rivers lakes and oceans as well as healthy plentiful soil, abundant healthy food, preferably organic and healthy land, plus vegetation, and forests and a healthy animal kingdom that is treated mindfully and with compassion. So we as a human race - all 7.8 billion of us - sharing one breath - are continuously having to become more conscious and alert so as to keep the precious biosphere regenerating and sustainable for the children of today and tomorrow. The key takeaway here is that it has to be sustainable for humans and nature - that the corporate sector and their unbridled desires to 'sustain their consumptive habits' have to be tempered with the need for our planet and nature to regenerate - this to be factored in - we have to protect the global commons, like fish, for example, being extracted and netted at such a rate that the fish are unable to recover and eventually go extinct. Note that biodiversity is collapsing due to unconscious extraction and harvesting.  Also, that still today in 2021 - Global Corporations who have never been known for showing compassion or empathy towards humanity are in many ways blindly following a dog eat dog - take no prisoners approach and if we humans do not become aware and organise ourselves and reign them in - they will herd us like cattle down a projectory that will lead us to ... well -  you know where.  Notice that corporations are still making planned obsolescent products that end up in a landfill somewhere. Believe me - here in our country recycling is abysmal. This is unconscious thinking - we have become a throwaway society and we are programming our children to become unconscious consumers - readying us to throw ourselves away as well. Now I want to be able to address the Covid situation because there are many anomalies that are now being questioned. With Peter Williams New Zealand television presenter and sportswriter who currently hosts the morning talkback programme on Magic Talk, a MediaWorks radio network. This below from wikipedia: which I am not necessarily a  fan of - but you make up your mind for yourself. In Early February 2021, Peter Williams asked for opinions on talk back radio (and interviewed professionals such as Dr Simon Thornley an epidemiologist at Auckland University who has mentioned that the Covid Stats do not stack up on many levels).   Evidently Peter Williams directed listeners to an anti-vaccine site, a NZ website called 'Voices for Freedom' which according to certain pundits, was supposedly spreading COVID-19 misinformation. There's a link to this - So I encourage you to follow up what this touted - misinformation is. Also in mid-February 2021, Williams questioned the Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Grant Robertson about his views on the possible implications of the World Economic Forum's Great Reset for New Zealand, and the related Great Reset Conspiracy Theory. In response, Robertson ended his weekly Magic Talk interviews, stating that he did not want to "shoot down conspiracy theories."  We will get to the Great Reset further on in the program.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Williams_(broadcaster)  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/magic-talks-peter-williams-gives-shout-out-to-anti-vaxxers  Now I want to back up a little to give you a little history - to allow you a deeper understanding of why I have involved myself in radio and GreenplanetFM.com - which has as its main premise - environment - health and consciousness  - because within the biosphere - if we have a healthy environment and ecology - we have a better opportunity to be healthy ourselves - in body, mind, and spirit and then we have consciousness this includes becoming aware of our place in time and space as a human living on this planet. So back in the early 1990s, I was active in calling for a global family - and even before that in 1986 I was very much engaged here in NZ being involved in Global Meditations - where we synchronised on a planet round basis to meditate and pray for world peace at a very specific time. I was helped by Michael Fleck and Gillian Poole in what we thought was a very noble idea - to encourage people through all walks of life to take time out from all the distractions of life and focus on a peaceful world.   This global peace meditation was centered on 12 noon Greenwich mean time UK on the 31st of December - that translated to 12 midnight on the 31st of December here in New Zealand because we were at 180 degrees on the opposite side of our planet.     This meditation peace prayer was initiated by John Randolph Price https://www.johnrandolphprice.com of the Quartus Foundation based in Texas in the US - who with a team across America and elsewhere encouraged humanity and all who were listening to come together for this spiritual event on December 31st of each year. It was called World Healing Day, especially the World Instant of Cooperation, or World Peace Day - a moment of Oneness  - to dissolve the sense of separation and return humankind to Godkind. Like us being a conduit between heaven and earth. To me here in NZ we occupied a very significant position being 12 midnight on the 31st of December - being like the first domino or first cab off the rank into the new year  - as we were 12 hours ahead of the United Kingdom at that particular time - because we did not have daylight saving in this country in those days.  So when everyone else were meditating in 1986 - we in NZ were already meditating in 1987 at 1 minute past 12 midnight - so we wanted to set the tone of this template by already - being anchored in a peaceful future - like the saying - NZ sees tomorrow first - because we are the closest major country to the international date line - which runs down from between Russia and Alaska and is situated just over 100 kilometres off the East Coast NZ City of Gisborne. So being so close to this dateline we wanted to model being a living example of a peaceful country.- and hence the name and the moment   - the World Instant of Cooperation … We had a good reason for involving ourselves as … on 10 July 1985. During a covert military operation, two French military operatives sank the flagship of the Greenpeace fleet, Rainbow Warrior, here in New Zealand at the Port of Auckland as it was on its way to protest at Mururoa in French Polynesia - where the French had first tested nuclear weapons in the atmosphere and were also conducting tests underground, deep under coral atolls. Also at that time in 1985 - New Zealand was basking in its position as leader of the pro no-nuclear movement. Then on 10 July, two explosions set by these French Secret Service agents ripped through the hull of the Greenpeace flagship Rainbow Warrior, taking the life of one of its crewmen causing an international uproar that was to remain in the headline news for months to come. Well, to give this story some context both Michael Fleck and I had been on board the Rainbow Warrior 36 hours before it was bombed and we wanted to embrace the high ground and involve ourselves in what we thought was an idea whose time had come. Have NZ be a pioneer for global peace and as we were situated so very close to the International Date Line - this was time for NZ to be a planetary leader once again. Previous to this we had both been very much involved in taking to the NZ public the new idea at the time - that of the Gaia hypothesis that James Lovelock had brought to the world - you may remember - the ancient Greek idea that our planet is a colossal living superorganism and that basically, we were extensions of our planet because our bodies are made from the air, water and minerals and thus as an awakening conscious being - we could share this notion that we need to take care of both our future and our planet - Thus - by working and being for peace and a prosperous future for humanity and that at that time on earth there were less than 5 billion souls sharing breath and now today we have 7.8 billion  …  But, more so as another important component we were also integrating Rupert Sheldrake's  Morphic Resonance into the equation. Sheldrake.org - being that if enough people consciously think, feel and be in peace and if there was enough of us resonating with this heartfelt ideal (state of being) that we could reach a global tipping point and hit a critical mass - and then with say 10 percent or even less of humanity doing it - this would break open into a new realm that would then shift the balance and cascade us all into a new paradigm of consciousness and world peace.  This was also based on the Hundredth Monkey phenomenon - see wikipedia.org    So this is very important - that we need to remember and embrace, because with the madness of what is going on in the world' - we need to take time out, to be with ourselves or friends of like mind and sit still in peace, and thankfulness - especially here in New Zealand - which even today at this very moment possibly the most fortunate country on earth to reside in. For as you very well know Mainstream Media can not be trusted anymore - Fake News is everywhere including social media so the imperative is to basically follow the money and do one's homework in researching and then cross-reference it.  So as you can hear - there is a method in all this madness to awaken our connection to the fact that we are a global family - albeit somewhat very disconnected from each other - yet knowing that we all share the same breath on this planet - that of the invisible breath that keeps all of humanity as well as animals and vegetation alive. We are far more connected than we actually realise. I then interviewed Bill Watson on the phone who was a Professor of Psychology in China and Taiwan and is also an Alternative Health Practitioner specialising in Bio-Energetic Medicine. Bill attended the recent Voices of Freedom Symposium in Auckland  Bills Report: The Voices Symposium— was well attended, about 100 people, and well managed; there were six informative presentations, followed by a Q&A session addressed to the panelists. I found the event to be quite an uplifting experience, even though the topic is seriously depressing…because everyone felt free to express their opinion knowing it was “safe”, that they were in company with open minds that had done some research…so it was wonderful information exchange, and the panel gave clear, factual and inspiring talks about different aspects of the situation we all find ourselves in.  My sense was there was a lot of networking and everyone left on a “high”-- like, something positive is finally happening, and we’re part of it. The founders of the movement are three mothers whose approach has been sufficiently subtle to attract many Kiwis who might have been put off by the more common "in-your-face" approach, and what I saw at Voices was different from the usual gathering of gold cardholders: there were people of all ages at the meeting expressing concerns and sharing information.  This is incredibly important to me as a father because in the big picture Voices for Freedom IS about reclaiming our core values as humans: freedom of choice, freedom of speech, freedom of movement.   People are starting to wake up to the wider implications of this pandemic and vaccine rollout, to the fact that its devastating impact has been engineered by a cabal: they are doing the research, reading the 2010 Rockefeller Foundation report that spells out the agenda in detail.  They are looking at the videos of the Gates Foundation’s “Agenda 201” meeting—and they are connecting the dots.  They are listening to MDs who are independent, not vaccine-sponsored. As you mentioned, this is a global mass psychosis: this is resulting from the denial of reality.  Why? it is impossible for many New Zealanders who have faith in their elected representatives to accept the possibility that they are being betrayed on such a massive scale…and so they turn their back on conflicting data, and behave in a rather paranoid manner--- demonise or dob in their neighbours, sometimes friends or family, and polarise the community because they can’t handle the cognitive dissonance. (the mental conflict that occurs when beliefs or assumptions are contradicted by new information; as Nietzche put it sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth because they don’t want their illusions destroyed).  When you try to talk to the nonverbals they are, my mind’s made up, don’t confuse me with the facts…and the resolution of their mental conflict is typically believing comforting lies, which are easier to live with than unpleasant truths. And this betrayal, that we experience as attacks on our individual (and national) sovereignty, are coming from three main sources:  social media censorship, manipulative mainstream messaging that aims for thought control, and political correctness designed to force behavioural compliance. -And what is the source of these lies?  They come from offshore, part of the larger plan known the Great Reset, which encompasses far more than just the lockdown/vaccine agenda; it is also the 5G/ IoT / IoB/ Transhumanist agenda, the Green New Deal (global warming, CO2 agenda), the economic destruction/digital currency/Build Back Better agenda, (all genocidal) and ultimately the New World Order/ UN-driven Communism 3.0 agenda, as explicitly carved into the Georgia guidestones and cleverly built into UN agenda 2030.   Different agenda items, though all linked together, have been propagandised in order to appeal to different groups/individuals; when you choose to "buy into" (or are bought into) one, you're in them all—sold your soul.  Each item has its own champion, funded by higher-level sponsors: Gates for the first phase, Gore for the next, LaGarde and banksters for the economy, Soros and Guiiterres for the transfer of national sovereignty to the UN.  Schwab oversees the plan and he reports up to the “lower house” of the World Governing Council, which is composed of mainly corporate elite.  And make no mistake, this IS a coup.  Here is the thing about a coup we need to understand... Once the perpetrators or conspirators take their plan out of the planning stage and put the plan into motion, there is no turning back.  Totally exposed and guilty of treason if they fail, their lives are in great danger and no matter what is said or exposed, they must push forward till they have total control.   Others have tried and failed using a similar strategy.  It was revealed that Hitler used the same strategy as they are deploying now: he told the German people that Jews were "diseased", which triggered the same level of irrational fear that is currently causing people to line up for injection and get irrationally angry at their vaccine-hesitant friends and neighbours. What is being carried out is a well-defined psychological tactic because they instill fear in the mass herd of human sheep.  Everyone to some degree has anxiety about catching a virus, you can’t see it and it could be deadly.  (anxiety versus. fear: anxiety is worse because you don’t know how bad it is!  You can calibrate the fear response when you know) Then they count on obedience to authority to make the population controllable as was the case under communism.  It’s all based on ideology, which is a worldview constructed from theories, beliefs, or philosophies--primarily economic, political, or religious—which has been used for centuries as the oppressive intellectual armoury of a social class.   As Warren Buffett notoriously said: “There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.   You could say that the goal of the “undeclared war” is to eliminate the middle class by the destruction of the economic system, and you wouldn’t be far wrong.  The primary goal seems to be to reduce the population of the planet by more than 80%.  Georgia Guidestones bear witness to that goal.  The intent is to recreate “Haves (nobles), have nots” (serfs), who are dependent and controllable through technocracy and transhumanist technology…and return the planet to its pre-industrial medieval state Re:  there are battles raging on numerous fronts within local government with regard to the health and wellbeing of New Zealanders. IMO This is just the beginning. We’ve already seen it with 5G, and the blowback on vaccines will be massive and ... The death rate worldwide following COVID mRNA vaccinations has been terrible: last week the CDC and FDA reported that in the 10 week period between Dec. 14 and Feb. 19, there were 19,769  Significant Vaccine Adverse Events worldwide, of which 966 died shortly after receiving an mRNA vaccine.  It is all documented; we just don’t hear about it in the mainstream media.    They started the Pfizer-only Vax rollout in Israel mid December; according to my source, who is an Israeli citizen living there, they started with the “religious” I asked what he meant by that and he said the orthodox Jews...28 reported dead from the vaccine, some as young as 25 with no prior health problems: In January 2021 after a month, there were 3,000 records of vaccine adverse events-- 2,900 of them from the mRNA vaccine.  Compared to other years, mortality is 40 times higher, and vaccinations have caused more deaths than the coronavirus would have caused during the same period.  Doctor Herve’ Seligmann challenged the Israeli government in the face of pressure to vaccinate citizens, calling it “..a new Holocaust”. What is happening in Israel right now with the rollout of the experimental Pfizer mRNA vaccine is what they have purchased and started to roll out here in NZ as well; we should be watching the Israeli statistics carefully.  (and South Aucklanders are the first targeted group.  Surprised?) Since the COVID-19 vaccine rollout, the draconian measures being applied against Israeli citizens are like the Chinese Communist Party -CCP level - insane.  Israel currently has the highest rate of vaccination in the world and has introduced the “Green Passport” program across the country, which creates a form of apartheid, a Medical Fascist State by discriminating against non-vaccinated citizens to prevent them from going into theatres, gyms, hotels, and other public venues. This has created a tense, divisive atmosphere; the Israeli government is coercing/ intimidating/ shaming citizens to accept that taking this vaccine is the only way back to normal life.  Non-vaccinated students can’t attend in-person classes and non-vaccinated restaurant patrons are forbidden from entering the building. MSM Journalists are increasingly having trouble because the facts they are receiving from credible sources are increasingly in conflict with the official narrative.  These are verifiable facts about the huge number of adverse reactions to the Pfizer vaccine, the tragic effects that lockdowns are having on families and businesses, the lies about masks, the destruction of the global economy and the middle class, and the wider transhumanist agenda.  If the Great Reset slogans like “you will own nothing and you will be happy” seem to be total madness, consider that every crazy new official report or video is part of their Plan, which will not end with mass vaccinations; it will go on with climate madness, total surveillance, thought control; a totalitarian agenda.  The Virus is just the entry point into a world-wide tyrannical control operation.   One of their primary goals is to alter our DNA by unending mRNA vaccinations. According to my sources, neither of the mRNA vaccines, Pfizer,  or Moderna, are FDA approved, rather, they have what’s called an EUA (Emergency Use Approval). In Belgium, a group called doctors for freedom published a link with a worldwide map of registered adverse reactions of the vaccines, and they said “The first vaccines they are offering us are not vaccines. They are gene therapy products. They…inject a synthetic pathogen, nucleic acids that cause our own cells to produce elements of the virus.”  Essentially, your own cells make you sick, and can indirectly cause numerous diseases.  That’s a Bioweapon!  And this pandemic is biofascism--a war against human beings and the qualities that make us human.  And [as mentioned in a previous podcast] that will have consequences for the human soul. You asked: Does not the NZ Government want a healthy, self-reliant and resilient work force and population in general?  Based on empirical evidence, the answer would have to be NO.   Many people have pointed out that there has been no advice coming from mainstream media or government about prophylaxis (preventive measures like vits A, C, D and Zn); the ones who are talking about ways to support immune systems; Fx&I MDs, alternative practitioners only.  [this is a key point]  Soon there will be many vaccinated people beyond frontline workers.  What I have not heard from any NZ health official is how to prevent the spread of COVID by the vaccinated!  According to a report from a source in Switzerland, they will be contagious and sloughing off the virus for weeks after their injection, so there should be some way to identify them. This info came from Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, DVM, Ph.D. virology, independent seasoned vaccine researcher, who has held key roles with the Bill & Melinda  Gates Foundation and GAVI.  He says the worldwide vaccination campaigns should be halted because there is “…compelling evidence that they will soon dramatically worsen the consequences of the current pandemic.”*  (doco attached) At this time perhaps one of the most important choices is choosing who to listen to, and where to research vital topics.  Lockdowns, unprecedented mass hysteria and drummed-up fear are the product of ideology, and we are not powerless to defend our vital freedoms against power-hungry politicians, even if we are lacking journalists who are up to the task. Ok Tim I will try to recreate what I talked about in the last 10 minutes of this interview: we led in with the Fourth  Industrial Revolution; I went into too much detail and you were going to do a wrap when I mentioned a few things that I thought people should consider doing.  Here goes: As parents, we need to realise that our sacred mission is to protect those souls we brought into this darkening world from the cull that has started. This lifetime is a school, start to finish.  Third density reality is about making choices…it is not easy at the best of times because we cannot see the consequences of our actions.   Reality is the leading cause of stress amongst those in touch with it. Educate people on the coming changes: the perfidy, betrayal, sellout of humanity. People will change their minds.  When they do, welcome them.  Do not chide, but ask—“We have been watching the same movie.  How did we initially arrive at different conclusions?  And what has changed your mind/heart?  And how can we work together? Your voice makes a difference.  Let’s make it too big to ignore: consider the recent Berlin rally. With guest speaker Robert Kennedy Jr  We are fighting for our lives, our children’s lives.   We do not consent.  This rollout is part of their game—but you don’t have to play Learn about Common Law.  It is clear that other approaches to governance must be found, a new Magna Carta, a new Social Contract must be written.   Get educated about alternatives to the official narrative.  Knowledge protects, and we are a vulnerable species.  Knowing others is wisdom; knowing the self is enlightenment.   Here is the link to the former GAVI strategic planning manager’s letter (I think that’s what SPM means in this context)   The 4th Industrial Revolution: Let's make it a people's revolution.  Back to the land, clean up the place without killing 7 billion humans.  They want to yammer on about CO2 when the elephant in the room is--chemtrails/geoengineering/nanoparticulates poisoning the air, water, soil, crops...and EMF creating health problems via an orbiting satellite - a junkyard - and use of inappropriate bands of the EM spectrum.  It will CRASH because where no love sings, there is only noise...and it is being driven by demons. Here's the text, use as you see fit. This is simultaneously a time of great opportunity and a time of the possibility of massive destruction. We have started the fourth and final phase of “Industrial Revolutions'', which were each generated by inventions that changed the source and uses of energy.  The first began in the late 18thC (1765) with the steam engine, which facilitated the mechanization of agriculture and coal extraction.  The second (1870) began with discoveries of electricity, gas, and oil, which resulted in the creation of the chemical industry, the internal combustion engine, automobiles and airplanes. Simultaneously, new methods of communication--the telegraph and the telephone--were introduced.  The third revolution (1969) brought peaceful use of nuclear energy and new electronic, telecommunication and computer technologies, all of which supported R&D in biotech, space exploration, robotics and artificial intelligence. The Fourth Industrial Revolution is the concept of blurring the real world with the technological world.  According to the World Economic Forum, the focus will be on “cyber-physical systems”.  We can see this happening already: virtual reality devices, robots and software that work side-by-side with humans, injectable nano-bots, 3D printers, medical diagnostic tools, the internet of things (and bodies) are a few examples. This merging of technology into every part of our lives is becoming the “new norm”.  It is a dominant feature of the Great Reset, planned for this year. However, it is invasive technology, and this “reset” has the earmarks of a technocracy/transhumanist takeover.  Resistance is growing rapidly, so the impact that the fourth industrial revolution will have, how long it will last, or the direction it will take is not yet known. A wave of technology is now crashing into our personal and professional lives like a ton of bricks, and implementation based on a strategy of medical tyranny has thus far been heavy-handed, even “ham-fisted”, using fear-based tactics.  So the question becomes, will humans embrace or reject this new level of technology when it becomes evident that it comes with a negative impact on personal health, safety and liberty? Tim, there are profound implications here… Klaus Schwab - a vertical integration takeover of Humanity -  https://humansarefree.com/2021/03/decoding-davos-the-global-endgame.html    COVID facts that gives us cause to question: This below came in from overseas: If you really believe there is really a pandemic, why don't you hear the constant wail of ambulance sirens throughout the day and night? If there really is a pandemic, then why are undertakers saying business is either normal or less than usual?  If there really is a pandemic, then why don't we see endless queues in cemeteries and crematoriums bearing their loved ones? If there really is a pandemic, then why are all the statistics stating that the death rate is within normal parameters last year? If there really is a pandemic, then why have all the normal influenza deaths almost disappeared? If the first lockdown works, then why are we doing the same thing again? If the lockdowns did not work, then why are we doing the same thing again?           "Expecting a different outcome from the same procedure is a clear sign of insanity" - Albert Einstein Why is the government listening only to their own panel of experts, but refusing to listen to the vast majority of doctors, nurses, and health experts? [World Doctor's Alliance being one source.] Why are there scenes on TV of pandemonium in hospitals when in reality they are all empty? Where are all the people? Where is all the pandemonium? If there really is a pandemic, then why are there thousands of nurses out of work? [BBC News 4/20/20] If the pandemic started in 2019, then how did all the governments around the world order and deliver Covid 19 PCR test kits the year before in the year 2018? If used and discarded masks could be highly contagious, then why do we see thousands of them littering the streets and countrysides? If there really is a worldwide pandemic, then why do we see the rules and regulations differ greatly from city to city and country to country? If Covid doesn't affect children, then why are the schools shut? If masks work, then why haven't we been using them every year for the flu? Why have we never seen people kneeling over and dying in the streets? If we should avoid crowds and people, then why are the supermarkets, which can hold hundreds of people open, but your corner shop which can only hold three people, shut? Why is the government calling positive PCR tests "cases" and not just a "positive result?" Why has the BBC and ALL other media outlets failed to tell you that the World Health Organization (WHO) has published an update stating that the PCR tests are UNRELIABLE and should not be used? If a cough or sneeze droplet can carry up to 30 feet, then why are we socially distancing only 6 feet?  Why are you OK with rubbing poison into your skin 10 times a day? Why do we need an experimental DNH vaccine for a virus with a 99.97 recovery rate? If the vaccine works, then why can you still catch and transmit the disease after you get the vaccine? If you get the vaccine, then why do you still have to wear a mask and social distance? How many people do you personally know that have died solely from Covid? Then compare that number to how many people you know that have vaccine-damaged family members. OPEN YOUR EYES EVERYONE and look around. Ask yourself, next time you leave your house, "Am I really seeing a deadly pandemic? If the answer to this last question is yes, then you really need to TURN OFF your television!   "It is much easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."  --Mark Twain     Klaus Schwab - a vertical integration takeover of Humanity -  https://humansarefree.com/2021/03/decoding-davos-the-global-endgame.html    Resources: www.therealnews.nz     - that Covid is an entry-level ‘event’ into the New World Order. https://gbdeclaration.org - Signed by, 13,705 medical & public health scientists and  41,445 medical practitioners - The Great Barrington Declaration   https://covidcalltohumanity.org        Burning Questions - https://www.europereloaded.com/germanys-extra-parliamentary-cv-investigative-commission-launching-class-action-suit-against-corona-criminals-video/  https://sciprint.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-greatest-nuremberg-of-all-time-is.html?fbclid=IwAR01M_UnwgSPZPQlzzXW1FH5sSm_b41uUEVlLPjYxA9NZBKaA5R6aMaX6_M&m=1 What is happening on earth at present is a power grab for the human race. It is being actioned without any ‘consultation’ and debate especially with the people of all the countries of the Western World. When were we in NZ consulted about Agenda 21 or Agenda2030?  However the NZ Prime Minister in addressing the Bill and Melinda Gates Goal Keepers Conference on 26th September 2019 stated that our Government will actively commit to Agenda21 and Agenda2030 - but the video of her address has had that segment deleted. Because these two Agendas are becoming taboo - these have been ‘masked’ by other wording - so as to keep the public hoodwinked.   https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/gates-foundation-event-ardern-calls-other-nations-copy-nzs-wellbeing-budget    This is the TVOne version of that Conference that refer to both Agenda’s  - that is conveniently excluded in this clip  - but, it is in the public arena.  I have seen it.  https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/wellbeing-cure-inequality https://stovouno.org/2019/09/21/agenda-21-and-the-draft-nz-biodiversity-strategy/ https://stovouno.org The World Economic Forum at the behest of the banking families and the Rothschilds etc have been planning the Great Reset for generations and have been waiting for the ‘perfect crisis’ and now, under the guise of Covid have set their Great Reset Plan in motion and for them, there is no turning back now. They will relentlessly pursue this course of action until they have a planetary lockdown-control system that is controlled by them. Unless ‘we’ break this spell - there will be no return to the freedoms we once had. Or to even debate them in a public forum.  Connect with your neighbours and friends at a community level. Build warm connections around food growing and sharing of skills and resources. It’s called relocalisation - supporting each other as small cells connecting with other cells to make contact with other warm-hearted groups and teams. United we stand - divided we fall. The rapid chaotic change that is upon us is fundamentally a spiritual crisis - the human race has disconnected from their source and enmeshed themselves in the trappings of matter. With 7.8 billions souls on our planet - the absence of love across all races has to be bridged. The global family has to find innovative and creative ways to come together - especially for the sake of all children of today and tomorrow.     This just came through on Telegram with this message:

Former activists who sailed to the heart of the Pacific Ocean 25 years ago to oppose nuclear testing are fuming about what they say is commercialisation of their famous protest. In an advertising campaign, beer brand Steinlager has revisited the actions of the Kiwi protestors who sailed boats to Mururoa Atoll in 1995. Some of the activists have complained to the Advertising Standards Authority about how they've been depicted, along with perceived inaccuracies. The latest advertisement features actual footage of the protestors. That's a step too far for Thomas Everth, who skippered a boat in the Mururoa flotilla, and speaks to Corin Dann.  

The States Parties to the South Pacific Nuclear Free Zone Treaty (“Rarotonga Treaty”) convened  their first ever meeting on Tuesday 15 December 2020.  The meeting was in response to the call by Pacific Islands Forum Leaders at their 50th Meeting, held in Tuvalu in 2019, to operationalise the provisions of the Treaty. Following its adoption at the 16th Forum Leaders meeting in the Cook Islands, the Treaty was only the second of its kind—today there are five such regional nuclear free zones covering 116 nations. For further insight into the Meeting of Parties held earlier this week, see https://www.forumsec.org/2020/12/15/towards-a-fully-nuclear-free-blue-pacific-forum-sg-at-rarotonga-treaty-meeting/ For further insight into the Rarotonga Treaty including the Treaty text, see https://www.forumsec.org/treaty-collection/ MFAI media release on the Cook Islands becoming Party to the UN Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons see https://www.facebook.com/mfaicookislands/posts/1083989601767279 For insight into the Cook Islands 1995 participation in protest campaign against nuclear testing on the French Polynesian island of Mururoa, read Cook Islands News coverage at https://www.cookislandsnews.com/weekend/remembering-turbulent-times-in-pacific-history/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The States Parties to the South Pacific Nuclear Free Zone Treaty (“Rarotonga Treaty”) convened  their first ever meeting on Tuesday 15 December 2020.  The meeting was in response to the call by Pacific Islands Forum Leaders at their 50th Meeting, held in Tuvalu in 2019, to operationalise the provisions of the Treaty. Following its adoption at the 16th Forum Leaders meeting in the Cook Islands, the Treaty was only the second of its kind—today there are five such regional nuclear free zones covering 116 nations. For further insight into the Meeting of Parties held earlier this week, see https://www.forumsec.org/2020/12/15/towards-a-fully-nuclear-free-blue-pacific-forum-sg-at-rarotonga-treaty-meeting/ For further insight into the Rarotonga Treaty including the Treaty text, see https://www.forumsec.org/treaty-collection/ MFAI media release on the Cook Islands becoming Party to the UN Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons see https://www.facebook.com/mfaicookislands/posts/1083989601767279 For insight into the Cook Islands 1995 participation in protest campaign against nuclear testing on the French Polynesian island of Mururoa, read Cook Islands News coverage at https://www.cookislandsnews.com/weekend/remembering-turbulent-times-in-pacific-history/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The States Parties to the South Pacific Nuclear Free Zone Treaty (“Rarotonga Treaty”) convened  their first ever meeting on Tuesday 15 December 2020.  The meeting was in response to the call by Pacific Islands Forum Leaders at their 50th Meeting, held in Tuvalu in 2019, to operationalise the provisions of the Treaty. Following its adoption at the 16th Forum Leaders meeting in the Cook Islands, the Treaty was only the second of its kind—today there are five such regional nuclear free zones covering 116 nations. For further insight into the Meeting of Parties held earlier this week, see https://www.forumsec.org/2020/12/15/towards-a-fully-nuclear-free-blue-pacific-forum-sg-at-rarotonga-treaty-meeting/ For further insight into the Rarotonga Treaty including the Treaty text, see https://www.forumsec.org/treaty-collection/ MFAI media release on the Cook Islands becoming Party to the UN Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons see https://www.facebook.com/mfaicookislands/posts/1083989601767279 For insight into the Cook Islands 1995 participation in protest campaign against nuclear testing on the French Polynesian island of Mururoa, read Cook Islands News coverage at https://www.cookislandsnews.com/weekend/remembering-turbulent-times-in-pacific-history/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It’s been 25 years since almost one hundred Kiwis braved high seas, wild winds and French military to protest the French nuclear testing at the Mururoa Atoll in 1995.  The protest stirred up enough international media coverage to force the French into the UN’s test ban treaty, with no testing in the Pacific ever since. Dan Salmon was one of those Kiwis who joined a group and set sail aboard the Chimera all those years ago to unknowingly become embedded in New Zealand’s history.  He’s part of a new campaign from Steinlager reliving the Peace Flotilla story which has been directed by Lee Tamahori – you can check it out on their Facebook page.  He joined Simon Barnett and Phil Gifford to discuss what it was like to be a part of that historic event.  

durée : 00:54:59 - LSD, La série documentaire - par : Perrine Kervran, Delphine Morel - C’est l’héritage de l’histoire nucléaire française qui empêche la pleine reconnaissance des victimes des essais nucléaires… - réalisation : Nathalie Battus

On the 10th of July 1985, Greenpeace flagship protest vessel - the Rainbow Warrior - was bombed by French government agents in Auckland. Fernando Pereira, a Greenpeace photographer on board at the time, was killed in the blast. The bombing was a major diplomatic incident, and helped shape the nuclear free identity of Aotearoa New Zealand. But it was part of a much bigger and more deadly story of French colonialism in the Pacific, where nuclear testing at Mururoa and Fangataufa atolls has left a legacy of disease and death for the Ma’ohi people of the so called French Polynesia. Today we hear from Oscar Temaru, Independence leader and five times president of French Polynesia and Ena Manuireva, an Auckland University of Technology academic and PhD candidate who is from Mangareva, one of the French Polynesian islands most affected by the nuclear testing. Later on in the show, you’ll also hear from Stephanie Mills, a former Greenpeace Pacific nuclear test ban campaigner and previous chair of Greenpeace NZ Board, on the impacts of the bombing on her organisation and the international nuclear free movement. These three speakers were part of a six person panel discussion recorded by the Pacific Media Centre titled: “The Rainbow Warrior Incident - 35 Years Later”, which organised and hosted by Roxanne Panchasi of Simon Fraser University and co-sponsored by the Europe Institute and The University of Auckland​. This webinar was part of the “France and Beyond conference” that took place online on July 29th 2020.Audio recorded by the Pacific Media Centre with thanks to the editor Professor David Robie. Read this article about the full panel discussion here: https://asiapacificreport.nz/2020/07/30/french-nuclear-tests-i-bury-people-nearly-every-day-what-was-our-sin/ Image of Mururoa by Georges Martin (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mururoa_lagon.jpg)

Navy veterans who witnessed the French atmospheric nuclear explosions in 1973 have higher rates of cancer while many of their children are also suffering fertility problems. That's the conclusion of new University of Otago research published today in the New Zealand Medical Journal. The study focused on members and family of the crews of HMNZS Otago and HMNZS Canterbury who were sent to witness the nuclear explosions at French Polynesia's Mururoa atoll. The survey found 37 percent of the veterans who took part had suffered some form of cancers while 40 percent of the veteran's children reported issues with getting or staying pregnant. Recruitment to the study was voluntary and only received 148 responses. Gavin Smith, President of the Mururoa Nuclear Veterans Group, says there now needs to be wider research.

À plus du de 1600 km au sud-est de Tahiti, l'archipel des Gambier. Les dernières îles de la Polynésie française après l'Antarctique! Sur ces terres isolées dans le Pacifique, la perle noire, les eaux turquoise et la caresse des alizés sont les trois colonnes de ce qui semble être la douceur de vivre des Mangareviens. Pourtant derrière un décor de carte postale plane toujours, près de soixante ans après, les terribles conséquences des essais nucléaires atmosphériques de la France dans les années 1960 sur l'atoll tout proche de Mururoa. Reportage: Stéphane Cosme Réalisation: David Golan Production: Muriel Mérat et Christophe Canut Photo: Yves Scanzi, un ancien légionnaire devenu lʹune des figures de Mangareva, la principale île de lʹarchipel des Gambier en Polynésie française.

Olá, bem vindo ao GreenCast! Hiroshima, Nagasaki e Mururoa. Essas palavras e vários outras coisas estranhas acompanha essa época do homem do saco vermelho. Para sua noite iluminada, separamos uma lista bizarra de filmes que vai deixar sua família de cabelos em pé, em plena ceia natalina. Lava essa mão engordurada, rouba 5 uvas da mesa e vem conferir. Veja a descrição completa no site: https://wp.me/p7OJZY-sZ

Il podcast fra Trento e Bolzano nella sua seconda puntata si occupa di ambiente e scioperi studenteschi. Oltre alla solita occhiata a Westminster "Io, te e l'Öbb" non sciopera perché è un podcast per secchioni e oggi cerca di dare un proprio contributo per il Friday for future. Secondo vincitore internazionale del premio Umarell di Bronzolo, Donald Trump per la sua telefonata al presidente ucraino Zelensky --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/saltobz/message

Grupuj się, 4000 od czapy, Parki Technologiczne, ekonomia łopatologiczna, Wn = Ma, złoty co słabnie, idzie, kryzys pogaduszki w kantorze, ORDER !, Brexit, Mururoa, DGSE, Tęczowy Wojownik, kominki won, kończy Makumba.

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Esce Devilman Crybaby su Netflix e la sua storia non è complicatissima: si parla di due ragazzi, amici inseparabili fin da bambini. A un certo punto uno dei due diventa Satana. Ecco. Per discutere approfonditamente di questa cosa, i Cugini del Terribile hanno invitato in studio IL VECCHIO NERD (Thomas Scalera, ma neanche sua madre lo chiama più così, ormai) e si è sprigionata un'esplosione di energia Nagaiana che Mururoa a confronto era una puzzetta.

Besättningen på Greenpeace-fartyget Rainbow Warrior ska snart ut och protestera mot provsprängningar av kärnvapen i Stilla Havet. De märker inte när två agenter placerar ut bomber på fartygets skrov. Det är sommar år 1985. Kalla kriget pågår fortfarande och spänningarna mellan öst och väst är starka. Miljöorganisationen Greenpeace förbereder en protestaktion mot Frankrikes kärnvapentest i Mururoa-atollen.  Frankrike ser kärnvapenutvecklingen som nödvändig och mycket viktig av säkerhets- och statusskäl. När de hör talas om miljöorganisationens protestplaner fattas ett beslut om att aktionen måste stoppas. Den franska underrättelsetjänsten kopplas in. De tidsinställda bomberna som placeras ut på Rainbow Warrior ska inte bara utlösa en explosion som dödar en av besättningsmedlemmarna, utan också en storpolitisk skandal.  En dokumentär av Linda Jensen Kidane Producent Anna Åkerlund Produktionsår 2017

Creative Social Communicator with early history, first peoples and the awakening connection to the earth mother and the elements. Today she is a celebrated filmmaker, producer and director covering the canvas of earth, water, and sky and the growing people’s reverence of Aotearoa and our great sustainer Mother Earth - Papatuanku.    Early Years: Born in Ōtautahi, Christchurch, whilst studying at Canterbury University she did the ‘poet rounds’ of local pubs with people such as Kerri Hume and other home grown celebrities.   Then when visiting a playwright’s workshop in Australia she realised that only 1% of the world’s playwrights - were women this then inspired her to fire up and write. She then had a play produced on stage in Australia and in Christchurch help set up the Woman’s Action Theatre. Then for 8 years produced one play per year, ‘Mother Tongue’ being one of them and with the NZ Listener giving it an amazing review it ended up touring the country. Being based on the first stages of a woman’s life. Featuring chant, song, dance and scenes through different aspects of a growing woman – like Offspring – the first 6 months of the 1st baby – and then another of an older woman who was a successful gold miner in the West Coast - Buller region. That Christchurch Ōtautahi is where Kate Sheppard, who initiated the vote for women lived and was buried there. Kate also tells of her unique connection to the 1st vote by women in 1893. Nuclear Awakening Then to working in Free Theatre and Court Theatre and then onto radio drama which she loves. One of these was called Charlie Bloom, about blowback from a French nuclear test in Polynesia which went from East to West covering Samoa and affecting the the Samoan inhabitants 3,610 km from French polynesia and Mururoa. This  bomb test was on the 12 September 1966. As a consequence of this test, called Betelgeuse, (named after the 9th brightest star in the night sky) in which a 120 kiloton bomb hanging under a balloon was exploded at a height of 600 metres in difficult wind conditions. Not long after this Kathleen was living for a while in Hakano St, Grey Lynn in Auckland and there were many Samoans living in that street and there was a disproportionate number suffering from strange cancers and odd diseases then she found a book by Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War (IPPNW) and also the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research entitled Environmental Effects of French Nuclear Testing. This exposed what was happening,  including a  map of the rain-out hot spots and rain-out dry spots all over this part of the Pacific. This was when leukaemia sickness was spiking at one of the worst rates at that time in this region. Her play was also broadcast in Australia and Kathleen’s parents were over there for a few days and just looking for a decent radio station to listen to, heard Kathleen’s  ‘Charlie Bloom’ being broadcast – just out of the blue and this is a theme that runs through her life – many magical moments of synchronicity. Her most recent book is Earthquakes and Butterflies based on the Christchurch Earthquake and was played for a week on National radio here in NZ. Her book is a delightful, beautifully designed novel and photographic journal following Hone, Kara, Pieter, Hemi, Helena, Kay and Tess as they navigate their way through the tragedy of the Christchurch earthquakes. "This is surely one of the finest pieces of writing to come out of the Christchurch earthquakes. Kathleen Gallagher tells, with deep tenderness and compassion, the story and spirit of all that the moving earth laid on the heaving doorsteps of Christchurch... Jane Hole,"Tui Motu" Nov. 2015, Film   The documentary Water Whisperers - Tangaroa the film – evidently, it just sort of happened. With no finances or major strategy, when some people came to her at the last minute and asked her to film a raft journey from Lake Sumner in the Southern Alps to the Pacific ocean, this was enough to pay for Water Whisperers – plus when it came to support with this production - she says “it just seems to show up!” This vibrant environmental documentary explores the healing and recovery of polluted and fished out waterways, and the conservation of wild water places - from mountain lakes, through rivers and out into the ocean. Subtle, sensitive and beautifully photographed - it is a quietly convincing voice amid the clamour of our fast paced society. People from very different backgrounds stand together - being real about the challenges they face, they show us there are solutions as well as problems that we have to address. This is an eloquent and utterly convincing call for greater protection and care of New Zealand’s lakes, rivers, coastlines and oceans. "This beautifully put together and refreshingly optimistic local doco is one of the most enjoyable films I've seen in months ... Seeing an eco-doco so informative, entertaining, light of touch and unashamedly Kiwi was a real treat ... Four stars, easy ... a very accomplished and compelling film." Graeme Tuckett - Dominion Post, Wellington When filming Sky Whisperers - Ranginui - she tells of a small number of large hawks or kea flying right in front of her car windscreen blocking her view that she had to stop the vehicle in a middle of a mobile phone drop-out area. Whilst stopped a very tuned in Maori friend phoned her saying she must come to where he was – as the film had to start from Lake Waikaremoana - stating that “ I am waiting for you!”. She had not planned on including him in the film and so due to the ‘strangeness’ of the moment, she then detoured to where he was some hundred plus kilometres away even though they were going to another destination to start the film. So driving through a storm she arrived at Lake Waikaremoana where he was standing waiting for her and her team, still in the middle of that storm. Where she proceeded to interview him then carry on back to the original destination. This fascinating environmental feature, calls us to a closer intimacy with our skies. Celestial navigators, climatologists, a Nobel prize winning scientist, biodynamic, Maori and radio astronomers, farmers, fishermen and business folk who observe the sky, the air, the stars, the moon and sun cycles. Together they show how we can establish a way of observing, living and doing business which results in non pollution of our skies. Tau Te Mauri - Breath Of Peace A fascinating story of effort towards global peace, featuring eight peace people of Aotearoa New Zealand - spanning some seven decades - peace walkers, petitioners, and folk in small boats and on the surfboards sailing out into the harbours in the face of huge warships. A unique documentary, embedded in the movement of aihe (dolphins), tohora (whales), kotuku (white herons), toroa (albatross) and with an original score blending contemporary waiata and traditional Maori musical instruments. This film tells the story of how Aotearoa New Zealand became nuclear free and anti-war. It is an inspiration for all people, young and old, and for peacemakers everywhere. Conscientious Objectors: The Peace People of NZ go back a long way – to the Chatham Islanders to Te Whiti go Parihaka in Taranaki - who it is recorded influenced Mahatma Gandhi in his expression of peace. Jack Rogers and the few who remain alive today … then Mary Woodward – protesting against the bombing of Hiroshima. Hautu Peace People of World War II “Hautu is the story of two WWII Conscientious Objectors put away in the rugged Hautu detention camp near Tūrangi on the Desert Road south of Taupo and their supportive womenfolk who were living in Christchurch and on the West Coast” in the South Island. Kathleen states that peaceful energisers come through in NZ, every decade and this ideal moves around the country as in George Armstrong up here in Auckland with the Peace flotilla and Bunny McDiarmid and her Greenpeace work. Especially with the Rainbow Warrior moving the people in the Marshall islands away from the radioactive island that the US atomic testers used and then sailed away from. The bombing in Auckland Harbour and all the other important Greenpeace issues that are still with us today. And Nicky Hager NZ’s top independent researcher and Kate Dewes - all have worked for decades, on peace issues, to bring more peace in our world. Kathleens Home Turf That Riccarton borough in Christchurch was the first Nuclear Free area in NZ. – That is where Kate Dewes lives and where Kate Sheppard once worked and lived. Deans bush there too. It’s a place of much change. Trees in the seven hectare bush include ancient kahikatea, totara, matai and hinau. The bush is now protected by a predator proof fence and is home to small populations of the Canterbury tree wētā and great-spotted kiwi/ roroa. Before European settlement, Pūtaringamotu was a valuable source of food and timber for the Māori. From the bush they produced carvings and canoes, and preserved pigeons. These trees, up to 600 years old, are the descendents of a podocarp forest established over 6,000 years ago. They are the sole Canterbury remnant of kahikatea floodplain forest and as such have national significance. Haharanga – Healing Journeys. He Oranga He Oranga Healing Journeys Many of Kathleen’s friends got breast cancer and numbers of them died. She talked to people who had terrible prognosis yet had survived and she found that it was in the quiet areas  of  place and the space – that healing took place. This inspiring feature documentary follows the journeys of eleven cancer survivors through - bone, bowel, breast, ovarian, prostate, brain cancers, Hodgkins and nonHodgkins lymphoma, and leukaemia - to better health. It begins where the boiling heart of the earth rises up to the surface. It climbs the mountain peaks, descends the valleys and flows through the bush and on out to sea, exquisitely blending taonga puoro - traditional Maori music, Celtic harp and flute, and contemporary waiata. She found that when people shifted to a more conducive environment their health improved immensely. That it was in the forest the ngahere the ancient forest  - the puawai – the blossom of the ancient forest are very healing in so many ways same for the way – running water swift flowing water helps cleanse - plus mirimiri  a rubbing motion this inspired her to do the film Earth Whisperers Papatuanuku. Earth Whisperers  Papatuanuku. Starring Rita Tupe – Tuhoi healer  Craig Potton EYEla  burgess herbal, herbalist, Gerry Findlay talks with birds Alan marks the botanist, hugh wislon who has a thousand hectoer  of regenerating forest  Jim ogorman organic farmer in Omaru  Charles Royal maori chef. Kay Backster Seed Saver Makere Ruka – Waitaha kuia.  This film went all over the world.  And going to the huge film festival in Abu Dhabi in the Middle East winning the Audience Award. Then around the world like wildfire. Yet to obtain funding is a major task … Then Water Whisperers Tangaroa Following the water from Mountains down rivers and out to the ocean – to the Poor Knights marine reserve area. Including Leigh as the oldest marine reserve in the world. Raglan Fred Lichtwark and Eva Rikards working on restoring nature in the spirit of kaitiaki went  from lowest to highest fish count in NZ shoreline waters. Riparian planting changed it all around increases of Eels (tuna) whitebait (īnanga) and over marine fish. A great success. In this film there are lots of models for people to follow Muscles farms out in the bay in Takaka were being affected by chemical and nutrient runoff from farmed land – So Landcare a Government Department brought the two groups together and after challenging times have sorted out!  A win win! Actions for today! Locking away huge areas to stop fish depletion and overfishing – Andy Dennis who died recently in Nelson states that half our bays need to be locked up all the way to the 200 mile fishing zone. He maintains that this would allow all fish to recuperate to the same numbers of fish, that were here when Captain Cook arrived. Yes, there are still vested interests who oppose this concept other than wanting to lock areas away – yet, when fishing sanctuaries a put in place the long-term results is for everyone benefits. This interview covers Te Urewera as a park now having human rights and the Whanganui River (awa) being classed as a living entity This opens up the narrative about Papatuanku the earth mother as a living super organism. That includes our intimacy with Papatuanku as a living being. http://www.ourplanet.org/articles/new-zealand-government-acknowledges-a-river-as-a-living-entity-and-a-park-as-having-human-rights Altered Realities That things happen ‘in the moment’ and time can alter and shift, it is not necessarily linear which we usually see from a rational standpoint.   In Earthquakes and Butterflies Kathleen states that time can also expand & contract - especially when major earth moments are happening. The conversation then enters more non corporeal subject matter and the metaphysical connection to the land of Aotearoa. She mentions when Leonard Cohen when he last came to NZ fairly recently, said “you live in the is place that is magical – yet you walk around it as if it is ordinary!” Connection and intimacy with the land whenua. Some years ago American First Nation peoples came to NZ to apologise to the salmon that swim and travel up the Rakaia River in the South Island (Te Waipounamu - The Waters of Greenstone) They wanted to honour the fish, because their rivers are depleted of chinook salmon today. These South Island salmon were brought from America to NZ in 1867. They then spent 4 days and 4 nights at the top end of the river singing, praying, dancing, talking and listening to the river. Plus there other stories of Maori and kaitiakitanga - guardianship, protection, preservation or sheltering. Kaitiakitanga is a way of managing the environment, based on the traditional and cultural methods. Listen to this fascinating interview of a creative, inner-directed New Zealander http://www.wickcandle.co.nz/ http://www.bookcouncil.org.nz/writers/gallagherkathleen.html

Today here on Earth there is a ‘Civil War of the Spirit’ underway. Racial divides, religious intolerance, material avarice, martial control, and intellectual arrogance all challenge us to love and to heal our great separation from oneness and unity consciousness.   So, what is it that drives ‘a man of the cloth’ to see that the Vietnam war was wrong, that Maori of Aotearoa New Zealand were dispossessed of their land, that the South African rugby tour of NZ was racially selected, and that nuclear power and weapons brought into a country that threatened no other country, was and is morally indefensible?   Do we think to any depth of wisdom these days?  Have we cast values and virtues out the window as we embrace the shallow distraction of material comforts and indulgences?  This is a question that we need to engage and think deeply about. For it is obvious that George Armstrong, ably supported by his wife Jocelyn, has dwelt on many of the underlying causes that separate us all from participating and being global family. Though George was on good terms with the local Bishop, he realised that with falling congregation attendances, the Church had lost its way. It was not engaged with the community and whatever virtues and values that the Anglicans wished to embed in the wider community basically echoed inside a vacuum. That though his Bishop also had an understanding of Liberation Theology, that in those days was making a huge impression in South America - where the priests took Christ down from the cross and instead got themselves in alongside the peasants and served and worked with a hands-on approach to share the load of the downtrodden. For George intuitively knew that there had to be a better way if we were to bring peace and justice to earth. Hence, his deep commitment to the issue of the day - on so many levels. Born in Dunedin in the South Island of NZ, the youngest in his family, and though somewhat spoilt it was a lonely life as his many older brothers went off to post 1945 war activities. As a boy he joined the boy scouts and embraced the moral quality of that credo, that he eventually became a strong Anglican and then he experienced an ‘angelical’ conversion of what it was like to have an intense personal sense of God - or the Divine. After a stint at teaching in Waitaki in the South Island he then became an Anglican Priest and to have parishes in Dunedin and Christchurch when he realised that the Church as a religious entity was basically failing - as he could see it in the dwindling numbers - and he felt that in a sense it was a moral issue in that the church was not engaged with society - ethically - and after a few run-ins, he felt that he had to stand up in what he believed in - no matter what. He eventually ended up teaching at a Theological College becoming ordained and realised that you can only understand yourself by being active in the world, that books could not really do that, or only to a small extent. So he felt that he had to get out and become engaged and involved with the world - and that the learning comes on reflection from the action. Especially in his opposition to the Vietnam war which was a horrific shock for him - as it took him against his Church - including some theological students against his Church too. To one time taking placards into Good Friday procession saying that ‘Christ died for the Viet Cong.' And that the Bishop wanted him to get out of the procession and yet the Bishop was also good friends with George as he was quite partial to ‘liberation’ theology. George, also found that there was a Buddhist strain in South Vietnam that was very aligned with him - as the Buddhist had a saying  “they are our brothers who we kill.”  That the Buddhist Nuns were also very strong on this - and this all linked to the heart of Christianity. George’s mother had a sense that Maori spirituality was unique and when George officiated at some burials at Karatane, he realised that Maori and Pakeha understandings were very, very different. To experience Maori oratory and how it would flow impressed him and also that the historical wrongs to Maori from the colonialisation of NZ was important for George to understand - due to the enormous dispossession of Maori from their tribal land. One important quality that George noticed, that even though this had happened to Maori - they had never lost their dignity. George always felt it was a great privilege to stand alongside Maori in some way. He noticed that the young within Maori were more ‘out there’ than the elders which brought George into contact with the Harawira family, who he got to like as they quickly understood the nuclear threat to the Pacific ocean. However to them, the nuclear threat was just another extension of colonialism. But, it was the ultimate expression of the challenges we were facing yet on a totally different level. Especially, as it was our planet’s future at stake. He talks of Honi Harawira’s mother Titewhai and about her astuteness and being both wonderful and frightening, plus mentioning and praising Walter Lini a theological student of George’s and an Anglican priest, whom eventually became the founding Prime Minister of Vanuatu. Then the ‘white’ South African rugby Springbok tour of NZ that traumatically divided New Zealand like never before and the acclaimed statement that ‘this was a civil war of the spirit’ - George was one of the anti-tour demonstrators to break through the outer fences to actually get onto the football playing field in Hamilton and have the game cancelled - whilst the large crowd of 10’s of thousands were enraged and incensed, that they could not watch their game of footy. This news brought world attention to the fact that NZ supposedly a bastion of racial goodwill and fair play was engaged in playing a rugby team that was selected entirely on race. That a large percentage of NZ was still in favour of the tour that I repeat in George’s take -“this tour based on apartheid was a civil war of the spirit”. Though the tour continued after that canceled game many anti-tour protestors were so incensed that violence was discussed  - yet George could not reconcile with violence in any way. There had to be a higher virtue overlighting all his actions. Then came the NZ Peace Squadron or Flotilla. When in America at Princeton on a scholarship as he knew he needed a doctoral qualification to further himself, he witnessed on TV pictures a tiny canoe and inhabitant floating in front of the bow of a gigantic freighter - trying to stop it from going anywhere. As it was a ship dealing with armaments that was en route to a civil war in Pakistan. This image stuck to George’s soul and he imagined that with many small NZ boats, launches, yachts and anything that floated if New Zealanders could get out there in front of visiting nuclear armed or powered warships and stopping them from coming into NZ, ports this would be the way. With growing media focussed on all this - any boats damaged, sunk or lives hurt in anyway would focus attention on NZ and its government and policies.   These ships ‘or creatures of death’ as George would say ‘and the image of death trying to force its way through life' was an easy concept for George to understand - so the Peace Squadron came into being. The interview covers the Anti Nuclear Movement here in NZ and the Peace Squadron and that small boats had been sailing around to Mururoa in French Polynesia for many years to protest the French testing nuclear bombs in our backyard.  So when the message went out all the crews who had sailed the thousand of kilometres there and back - showed up and they were very hardy souls, very mature, astute, committed and dedicated with excellent yacht skills as well. Then George became a spokesperson for radio and especially TV, as TV media in those days were right on to it as it was in its infancy and wanted to get a good story so George and team received some very good coverage.   He also got very savvy to language the story so that it could not be edited out, (as media is very adept at twisting the context of most stories)   We then go on to talk about all the nearly 40 countries Navy’s who are going to bring their warships to NZ. That the NZ Navy is going to have a church service because the Navy has always had a close connection to Christianity and what type of service is there going to be as ‘thou shall not kill’ is key component to Christianity as well as the word Love. George then mentions that the present NZ ruling National Party has lost its religious depth and are not really into Christianity because of the Church’s antagonism of how the Government economic policy is disenfranchising so many. When asked where he gets his support other than his loving wife Jocelyn, George says he gets a lot of support from people and especially children. And in the 1980s where we were in the anti-nuclear disruption a lot of politicians from the Labour Party. Finally: George says that we must not enter into polarity with people on the other side of the divide - they too are human and that they have been caught up in the system - police etc are just doing their job … be courteous. We are all caught up in the system if we like it or not. He said time and again - we are not against flesh and blood we are against ‘principalities and powers’. This system thing that gets to us …  likes the armaments race - it gets to us.   If we let the genie out of the bottle - then that’s it … George in closing talks about ‘being born again’ that the evangelicals do not see this transformational unfoldment in its greatest expression - and that this continuance needs to happen daily as we grow and expand on this realisation and cosmic gift -  he says it’s such an astonishing thing as you respond to the impulse of this religious experience and you keep this alive in your daily practice … Otherwise you can quite possibly sink down into a religious rut of some sort and you can’t see the wood for the trees. Our challenge? The image of the other - not understanding other peoples and cultures  etc - we pre-judge and have prejudices of the other … Dialogue is good, but working together is far better. In future - make sure you practice what you preach - especially with all relationships. Don’t forget your humanity - we are dealing with humans even on the other side of the divide Get clever - we are pure GENIUS.   Keep focussed and something will open up - the extraordinary will become manifest.

Ma grand-mère et la bombe Il pleut, ça va me dégouliner dans la bouche Quand j’étais gamine, ma grand-mère me laissait jouer avec les colliers de fleurs ramenés de ses séjours en Polynésie. Un jour, elle a perdu ses cheveux. L’hiver suivant elle était morte. J’avais 18 ans la première fois que j’ai entendu parler des essais nucléaires français à Mururoa, dans le Pacifique. Il m’a fallu un petit moment pour faire le lien. Ca m'a donné envie d'enquêter et de rencontrer d’autres vétérans comme Yann et Jean-Pierre. Ce documentaire a été réalisé dans le cadre du Master 1 de création documentaire CREADOC à Angoulême et finalisé avec ARTE Radio. Enregistrement : Novembre 15 - Mise en ondes & mix : Samuel Hirsch - Réalisation : Marie Flacon

It is the 20th year anniversary of the yacht flotilla to the Mururoa atoll to halt French Nuclear tests. New Zealand has always been an outspoken critic of Nuclear testing and nuclear weapons. In total, 175 explosions took place at Moruroa and Fangataufa, in French Polynesia - 41 of which were atmospheric. In 1973,the New Zealand and Australian governments took France to the International Court of Justice in an attempt to ban the tests. France ignored the court’s ruling that they cease testing.

In 1973, at just 19 years of age, Anna Horne sailed with three others to Mururoa to oppose nuclear testing by France. But rather than witnessing a bomb being detonated, she watched the skipper being beaten and detained by French commandos. Anna observed the events through the lens of a camera and the pictures she took were smuggled out to the world, causing international outrage. Anna's experience became part of the case that New Zealand and Australia took to the International Court of Justice challenging the legality of the French testing programme. On 27 January 1996, 23 years since the Vega's protest, the last nuclear test explosion by France was conducted at the Mururoa and Fangataufa Atoll test site. It's believed at least 175 explosions took place in all, over 40 of them atmospheric.