Podcasts about nathan pritikin

Steven Lome, M.D., discusses the profound impact of adopting a plant-based diet on heart health. Drawing from historical anecdotes, scientific studies, and real-life transformations, Dr. Lome emphasizes how dietary changes can not only prevent but also reverse heart disease, America's number one killer. He champions a shift from "pills to plants," underscoring the multi-dimensional benefits of a plant-based diet – from personal health to ethical and environmental considerations. Highlighting pioneers like Nathan Pritikin and Dr. Dean Ornish, this segment serves as a compelling testament to the profound healing power of food. #PlantBasedHeartHealth, #FromPillsToPlants, #DietaryReversal

Steven Lome, M.D., discusses the profound impact of adopting a plant-based diet on heart health. Drawing from historical anecdotes, scientific studies, and real-life transformations, Dr. Lome emphasizes how dietary changes can not only prevent but also reverse heart disease, America's number one killer. He champions a shift from "pills to plants," underscoring the multi-dimensional benefits of a plant-based diet – from personal health to ethical and environmental considerations. Highlighting pioneers like Nathan Pritikin and Dr. Dean Ornish, this segment serves as a compelling testament to the profound healing power of food. #PlantBasedHeartHealth, #FromPillsToPlants, #DietaryReversal  

Dr. Hans Diehl discuss his work with the late Nathan Pritikin, founder of the original Pritikin Longevity Center. Dr. Diehl is a specialist in Lifestyle Medicine and has developed the internationally renowned healthy lifestyle program, The Complete Health Improvement Program (CHIP) which has shown more than 50,000 graduates how simple lifestyle changes can facilitate the reversal of many of our Western diseases. Dr. Diehl is coauthor of the bestselling book, Health Power - Healthy By Choice Not By Chance

Lifestyle medicine is a topic of discussion in many circles, and yet, it wasn't always that way. In the past, few people could define lifestyle medicine. Today, more and more people are choosing this over simply handing their health over to medication and surgeries.   In a nutshell, lifestyle medicine is all about keeping yourself healthy and avoiding getting sick in the long run. It pays attention to what you eat, how much you move, and how you handle stress. The goal is to steer clear of issues like obesity, diabetes, or heart disease by addressing the root causes, such as unhealthy eating habits, lack of physical activity, or dealing with stress in not-so-healthy ways.   Dr. Malcolm Mackay, a Board-Certified Lifestyle Medicine Physician, recently appeared on the #NHAHealthSciencePodcast to share insights into his journey embracing the plant-based lifestyle and lifestyle medicine and seamlessly integrating them into both his personal and professional realms.   Reflecting on his early days in medical school during the 1980s, Dr. Mackay experienced a transformative realization about the power of prevention through plant-based living. Lectures on atherosclerosis and community health planted the seeds of his passion for lifestyle medicine.   Fueled by a desire for longevity and heightened sports performance, Dr. Mackay embraced a whole food, plant-based lifestyle. His journey of understanding unfolded through encounters with influential figures such as Nathan Pritikin and the impactful Forks Over Knives documentary.   Dr. Mackay's approach underscores the critical role of calorie density in effective weight management. Striking a balance with whole, plant-based foods becomes pivotal for sustained health and overall well-being.   Going deep into the details of his immersive lifestyle medicine program, Dr. Mackay shared its evolution from a five-day to a comprehensive seven-day experience. Collaborating with his wife Jenny, and other experts, the program integrates a vegan chef, fitness trainer, and mental health specialist.   A distinguishing feature of Dr. Mackay's program is the emphasis on medical supervision, particularly for high-risk individuals. Consultations and careful adjustments, including insulin reduction for participants with type 2 diabetes, underscore the program's commitment to holistic well-being.   Catch the full conversation with Dr. Malcolm Mackay on the NHA Health Science Podcast: www.HealthScience.org/062-Malcolm-Mackay #LifestyleMedicine #PlantBasedLiving #NHAHealthScience 

In this episode, Nathan Pritikin, a professional in IT and contract manufacturing, joins us to discuss workforce development and the current employment challenges facing various industries, including logistics, transportation, and IT. They explore the impact of COVID-19 on the employee supply chain and how businesses can adapt to these changes. Main Points Workforce challenges across industries: Nathan, Andy, and Lalo agree that there's a noticeable employee shortage, whether it comes to skilled labor or individuals with degrees and certifications. The COVID-19 pandemic has significantly affected the employee supply chain, leaving companies struggling to find the right candidates for open positions. Post-COVID work ethic: The pandemic has had a detrimental impact on work ethic as companies face difficulties in finding employees with a strong work ethic and retaining them. In some cases, employees commit to work without putting forth effort or giving up when things get tough. Addressing the workforce shortages: Nathan states that businesses need to rise to the occasion and adapt to the changing workforce landscape. By participating in workforce development initiatives and being more aggressive with their strategies, companies can address employee shortages and find the right talent. The importance of employer involvement: The success of workforce development programs relies heavily on employer engagement. Employers can contribute to their local communities and make a substantial impact on people's lives by participating in workforce development initiatives. Finding and retaining talent: In order to improve workforce development efforts, employers should focus on fostering a supportive work environment, enhancing employee engagement, and investing in continuous employee personal and professional development. Enjoy the show! Host: Andy Shiles: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshiles/  Host/Producer: Lalo Solorzano: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalosolorzano/  Co-Producer: Mara Marquez: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mara-marquez-a00a111a8/ Show references: Global Training Center - www.GlobalTrainingCenter.com Simply Trade Podcast - twitter.com/SimplyTradePod  Nathan Pritikin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-pritikin/  Contact SimplyTrade@GlobalTrainingCenter.com or message @SimplyTradePod for: Advertising and sponsoring on Simply Trade Requests to be on the show as guest Suggest any topics you would like to hear about Simply Trade is not a law firm or an advisor. The topics and discussions conducted by Simply Trade hosts and guests should not be considered and is not intended to substitute legal advice. You should seek appropriate counsel for your own situation. These conversations and information are directed towards listeners in the United States for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only and should not be In substitute for legal advice. No listener or viewer of this podcast should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on this podcast without first seeking legal advice from counsel. Information on this podcast may not be up to date depending on the time of publishing and the time of viewership. The content of this posting is provided as is, no representations are made that the content is error free. The views expressed in or through this podcast are those are the individual speakers not those of their respective employers or Global Training Center as a whole. All liability with respect to actions taken or not taken based on the contents of this podcast are hereby expressly disclaimed.

How Do I Deal With Fatigue? Dr. Nick Delgado • NickDelgado.com• Book – Blood Doesn't Lie #DrNickDelgado#Nutraceuticals #HealthCoach #MedicalRejuvenation Dr. Nick Delgado is an American doctor, public speaker, biochemist and endocrine researcher. He specializes in the physiology of aging. His expertise is in the extension of the human lifespan using medical rejuvenation.His has published many Books most recently • Blood Doesn't Lie, is about the most effective way to protect ourselves from infectious diseases or chronic degenerative diseases is to understand the concepts of proactive intervention, preventative medicine, and lifestyle support. Infectious diseases can spread quickly to many patients, and normal bodily defense systems play a significant preventative role, they are not the only things needed to stop a virulent disease. We in America rank 36th in the world in life expectancy and we have more sick days than many other countries. This reflects our toxic diets and sedentary, high-stress lifestyles, and it's time we took responsibility for our health and made better choices. As the saying goes you either invest in your health now, or you will pay later. Spending a few extra dollars on healthy food and nutraceuticals could mean saving hundreds of thousands of dollars down the road on doctors, hospitals, and insurance premiums. In Blood Doesn't Lie you will learn safe, all-natural ways to optimize your immune system to reduce your risk of contracting pathogens and minimize symptoms if you do. Delgado was born in Pasadena, CA to Nicholas Sr. and Beatrice Delgado. Nicholas Delgado Sr. worked as a truck driver, while Beatrice Delgado worked as an accountant. He has a sister, Susan Delgado, and two brothers, Gilbert Delgado and Mark Delgado. Delgado graduated from the University of Southern California with a BA in Psychology, pursuing postgraduate studies in Physical Therapy at USC Rancho Los Amigos Hospital and Nutrition at both California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) and California State University, Long Beach (CSULB). Delgado proceeded to obtain his PhD in Health Science from Loma Linda University.In 1979, Delgado became the director of the Pritikin Better Health Program, providing seminars alongside research scientist and the Pritikin Institute's founder, Nathan Pritikin. Dr. Nick Delgado Offers Personal Health coaching and can be contacted at his websiteNickDelgado.com Disclaimer:Medical and Health information changes constantly. Therefore, the information provided in this podcast should not be considered current, complete, or exhaustive. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The Real Truth About Health does not recommend or endorse any specific tests, products, procedures, or opinions referenced in the following podcasts, nor does it exercise any authority or editorial control over that material. The Real Truth About Health provides a forum for discussion of public health issues. The views and opinions of our panelists do not necessarily reflect those of The Real Truth About Health and are provided by those panelists in their individual capacities. The Real Truth About Health has not reviewed or evaluated those statements or claims. 

Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we are pleased to welcome Dr Michael Greger as our guest! Dr Greger is a physician, New York Times bestselling author, and internationally recognised speaker on nutrition, food safety, and public health issues. He speaks to Geoff about gluten and MS, how to get enough iron from food and how to ensure you don't get a leaky gut. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways and Dr Greger's bio. Make sure you sign up to our newsletter to hear our latest tips and news about living a full and happy life with MS. And if you're new to Overcoming MS, visit our introductory page to find out more about how we support people with MS. Selected Key Takeaways: Fibre from whole intact grains and legumes will decrease intestinal permeability AKA “Leaky Gut”The most important thing to decrease intestinal permeability or [to] seal up a leaky gut is [to get enough] short-chain fatty acids that our body makes from fibre and resistance starch. These prebiotics that we eat are turned by our good gut bacteria into what are called ‘post-biotics'. What are the most concentrated sources of fibre in the diet? Number one, whole intact grains and legumes including beans, split peas, chickpeas and lentils are the most important sources of fibre. There are many health benefits to eating ground flaxseedsI'd rather people get their flaxseed oil within their flaxseeds, so from ground flaxseed (that's part of my daily dozen). Just because, in addition to getting the short-chain Omega-3 alpha-linolenic acid in those flax seeds that are found in the oil, you also get a nice low soluble fibre [and] most importantly the lignans which are cancer-fighting compounds which are not found in oil. Vitamin C improves the absorption of plant-based iron sources To get enough iron from plant-based sources, you combine sources of iron like legumes and whole grains with Vitamin C-rich foods. Vitamin C actually improves the absorption of plant-based iron. Vitamin C-rich foods [are foods such as] citrus, tropical fruits, broccoli [and] bell peppers. You just want to have it all in your stomach at the same time and that will improve your absorption. Related Links: Visit Dr Michael Greger's website Find out about Nathan Pritikin (an early pioneer in lifestyle medicine) Listen to S4E53 Ask Jack on the topic of sodium New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website  Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram Twitter YouTube Pinterest Don't miss out:  Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review. Feel free to share your comments and suggestions for future guests and episode topics by emailing podcast@overcomingms.org. Make sure you sign up to our newsletter to hear our latest tips and news about living a full and happy life with MS. Support us:  If you enjoy this podcast and want to support the ongoing work of Overcoming MS, we would really appreciate it if you could leave a donation here. Every donation, however small, helps us to share the podcast with more people on how to live well with MS. Dr Michael Greger's bio: A founding member and Fellow of the American College of Lifestyle Medicine, Michael Greger, M.D., is a physician and internationally recognised speaker on nutrition. He is a graduate of Cornell University School of Agriculture and Tufts University School of Medicine. Dr Greger's careerHis science-based nonprofit, NutritionFacts.org, offers a free online portal hosting more than 2,000 videos and articles on myriad health topics. Dr Greger is a sought-after lecturer and has presented at the Conference on World Affairs and the World Bank, testified before Congress, and was invited as an expert witness in Oprah Winfrey's defence in the infamous “meat defamation” trial. Dr Greger's booksDr Greger is also an acclaimed author. How Not to Die, The How Not to Die Cookbook, and How Not to Diet became instant New York Times Best Sellers. More than a million copies of How Not to Die have been sold. All proceeds Dr Greger receives from the sales of his books and speaking honoraria are donated directly to charity.  

You Can't Help A Person With Supplements Unless They Clean Up Their Diet Dr. Nick Delgado • NickDelgado.com• Book – Blood Doesn't Lie #DrNickDelgado#Nutraceuticals #HealthCoach #MedicalRejuvenation Dr. Nick Delgado is an American doctor, public speaker, biochemist and endocrine researcher. He specializes in the physiology of aging. His expertise is in the extension of the human lifespan using medical rejuvenation.His has published many Books most recently • Blood Doesn't Lie, is about the most effective way to protect ourselves from infectious diseases or chronic degenerative diseases is to understand the concepts of proactive intervention, preventative medicine, and lifestyle support. Infectious diseases can spread quickly to many patients, and normal bodily defense systems play a significant preventative role, they are not the only things needed to stop a virulent disease. We in America rank 36th in the world in life expectancy and we have more sick days than many other countries. This reflects our toxic diets and sedentary, high-stress lifestyles, and it's time we took responsibility for our health and made better choices. As the saying goes you either invest in your health now, or you will pay later. Spending a few extra dollars on healthy food and nutraceuticals could mean saving hundreds of thousands of dollars down the road on doctors, hospitals, and insurance premiums. In Blood Doesn't Lie you will learn safe, all-natural ways to optimize your immune system to reduce your risk of contracting pathogens and minimize symptoms if you do. Delgado was born in Pasadena, CA to Nicholas Sr. and Beatrice Delgado. Nicholas Delgado Sr. worked as a truck driver, while Beatrice Delgado worked as an accountant. He has a sister, Susan Delgado, and two brothers, Gilbert Delgado and Mark Delgado. Delgado graduated from the University of Southern California with a BA in Psychology, pursuing postgraduate studies in Physical Therapy at USC Rancho Los Amigos Hospital and Nutrition at both California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) and California State University, Long Beach (CSULB). Delgado proceeded to obtain his PhD in Health Science from Loma Linda University.In 1979, Delgado became the director of the Pritikin Better Health Program, providing seminars alongside research scientist and the Pritikin Institute's founder, Nathan Pritikin. Dr. Nick Delgado Offers Personal Health coaching and can be contacted at his websiteNickDelgado.com Disclaimer:Medical and Health information changes constantly. Therefore, the information provided in this podcast should not be considered current, complete, or exhaustive. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The Real Truth About Health does not recommend or endorse any specific tests, products, procedures, or opinions referenced in the following podcasts, nor does it exercise any authority or editorial control over that material. The Real Truth About Health provides a forum for discussion of public health issues. The views and opinions of our panelists do not necessarily reflect those of The Real Truth About Health and are provided by those panelists in their individual capacities. The Real Truth About Health has not reviewed or evaluated those statements or claims. 

You Don't Have To Have Animal Protein To Have A World-Class Physique Dr. Nick Delgado • NickDelgado.com• Book – Blood Doesn't Lie #DrNickDelgado#Nutraceuticals #HealthCoach #MedicalRejuvenation Dr. Nick Delgado is an American doctor, public speaker, biochemist and endocrine researcher. He specializes in the physiology of aging. His expertise is in the extension of the human lifespan using medical rejuvenation.His has published many Books most recently • Blood Doesn't Lie, is about the most effective way to protect ourselves from infectious diseases or chronic degenerative diseases is to understand the concepts of proactive intervention, preventative medicine, and lifestyle support. Infectious diseases can spread quickly to many patients, and normal bodily defense systems play a significant preventative role, they are not the only things needed to stop a virulent disease. We in America rank 36th in the world in life expectancy and we have more sick days than many other countries. This reflects our toxic diets and sedentary, high-stress lifestyles, and it's time we took responsibility for our health and made better choices. As the saying goes you either invest in your health now, or you will pay later. Spending a few extra dollars on healthy food and nutraceuticals could mean saving hundreds of thousands of dollars down the road on doctors, hospitals, and insurance premiums. In Blood Doesn't Lie you will learn safe, all-natural ways to optimize your immune system to reduce your risk of contracting pathogens and minimize symptoms if you do. Delgado was born in Pasadena, CA to Nicholas Sr. and Beatrice Delgado. Nicholas Delgado Sr. worked as a truck driver, while Beatrice Delgado worked as an accountant. He has a sister, Susan Delgado, and two brothers, Gilbert Delgado and Mark Delgado. Delgado graduated from the University of Southern California with a BA in Psychology, pursuing postgraduate studies in Physical Therapy at USC Rancho Los Amigos Hospital and Nutrition at both California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) and California State University, Long Beach (CSULB). Delgado proceeded to obtain his PhD in Health Science from Loma Linda University.In 1979, Delgado became the director of the Pritikin Better Health Program, providing seminars alongside research scientist and the Pritikin Institute's founder, Nathan Pritikin. Dr. Nick Delgado Offers Personal Health coaching and can be contacted at his websiteNickDelgado.com Disclaimer:Medical and Health information changes constantly. Therefore, the information provided in this podcast should not be considered current, complete, or exhaustive. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The Real Truth About Health does not recommend or endorse any specific tests, products, procedures, or opinions referenced in the following podcasts, nor does it exercise any authority or editorial control over that material. The Real Truth About Health provides a forum for discussion of public health issues. The views and opinions of our panelists do not necessarily reflect those of The Real Truth About Health and are provided by those panelists in their individual capacities. The Real Truth About Health has not reviewed or evaluated those statements or claims. 

Animal Based Eaters Tend To Have Lower Testosterone Dr. Nick Delgado • NickDelgado.com• Book – Blood Doesn't Lie #DrNickDelgado#Nutraceuticals #HealthCoach #MedicalRejuvenation Dr. Nick Delgado is an American doctor, public speaker, biochemist and endocrine researcher. He specializes in the physiology of aging. His expertise is in the extension of the human lifespan using medical rejuvenation.His has published many Books most recently • Blood Doesn't Lie, is about the most effective way to protect ourselves from infectious diseases or chronic degenerative diseases is to understand the concepts of proactive intervention, preventative medicine, and lifestyle support. Infectious diseases can spread quickly to many patients, and normal bodily defense systems play a significant preventative role, they are not the only things needed to stop a virulent disease. We in America rank 36th in the world in life expectancy and we have more sick days than many other countries. This reflects our toxic diets and sedentary, high-stress lifestyles, and it's time we took responsibility for our health and made better choices. As the saying goes you either invest in your health now, or you will pay later. Spending a few extra dollars on healthy food and nutraceuticals could mean saving hundreds of thousands of dollars down the road on doctors, hospitals, and insurance premiums. In Blood Doesn't Lie you will learn safe, all-natural ways to optimize your immune system to reduce your risk of contracting pathogens and minimize symptoms if you do. Delgado was born in Pasadena, CA to Nicholas Sr. and Beatrice Delgado. Nicholas Delgado Sr. worked as a truck driver, while Beatrice Delgado worked as an accountant. He has a sister, Susan Delgado, and two brothers, Gilbert Delgado and Mark Delgado. Delgado graduated from the University of Southern California with a BA in Psychology, pursuing postgraduate studies in Physical Therapy at USC Rancho Los Amigos Hospital and Nutrition at both California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) and California State University, Long Beach (CSULB). Delgado proceeded to obtain his PhD in Health Science from Loma Linda University.In 1979, Delgado became the director of the Pritikin Better Health Program, providing seminars alongside research scientist and the Pritikin Institute's founder, Nathan Pritikin. Dr. Nick Delgado Offers Personal Health coaching and can be contacted at his websiteNickDelgado.com Disclaimer:Medical and Health information changes constantly. Therefore, the information provided in this podcast should not be considered current, complete, or exhaustive. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The Real Truth About Health does not recommend or endorse any specific tests, products, procedures, or opinions referenced in the following podcasts, nor does it exercise any authority or editorial control over that material. The Real Truth About Health provides a forum for discussion of public health issues. The views and opinions of our panelists do not necessarily reflect those of The Real Truth About Health and are provided by those panelists in their individual capacities. The Real Truth About Health has not reviewed or evaluated those statements or claims. 

The 7 Pillars Of Health Dr. Nick Delgado • NickDelgado.com• Book – Blood Doesn't Lie #DrNickDelgado#Nutraceuticals #HealthCoach #MedicalRejuvenation Dr. Nick Delgado is an American doctor, public speaker, biochemist and endocrine researcher. He specializes in the physiology of aging. His expertise is in the extension of the human lifespan using medical rejuvenation.His has published many Books most recently • Blood Doesn't Lie, is about the most effective way to protect ourselves from infectious diseases or chronic degenerative diseases is to understand the concepts of proactive intervention, preventative medicine, and lifestyle support. Infectious diseases can spread quickly to many patients, and normal bodily defense systems play a significant preventative role, they are not the only things needed to stop a virulent disease. We in America rank 36th in the world in life expectancy and we have more sick days than many other countries. This reflects our toxic diets and sedentary, high-stress lifestyles, and it's time we took responsibility for our health and made better choices. As the saying goes you either invest in your health now, or you will pay later. Spending a few extra dollars on healthy food and nutraceuticals could mean saving hundreds of thousands of dollars down the road on doctors, hospitals, and insurance premiums. In Blood Doesn't Lie you will learn safe, all-natural ways to optimize your immune system to reduce your risk of contracting pathogens and minimize symptoms if you do. Delgado was born in Pasadena, CA to Nicholas Sr. and Beatrice Delgado. Nicholas Delgado Sr. worked as a truck driver, while Beatrice Delgado worked as an accountant. He has a sister, Susan Delgado, and two brothers, Gilbert Delgado and Mark Delgado. Delgado graduated from the University of Southern California with a BA in Psychology, pursuing postgraduate studies in Physical Therapy at USC Rancho Los Amigos Hospital and Nutrition at both California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) and California State University, Long Beach (CSULB). Delgado proceeded to obtain his PhD in Health Science from Loma Linda University.In 1979, Delgado became the director of the Pritikin Better Health Program, providing seminars alongside research scientist and the Pritikin Institute's founder, Nathan Pritikin. Dr. Nick Delgado Offers Personal Health coaching and can be contacted at his websiteNickDelgado.com Disclaimer:Medical and Health information changes constantly. Therefore, the information provided in this podcast should not be considered current, complete, or exhaustive. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The Real Truth About Health does not recommend or endorse any specific tests, products, procedures, or opinions referenced in the following podcasts, nor does it exercise any authority or editorial control over that material. The Real Truth About Health provides a forum for discussion of public health issues. The views and opinions of our panelists do not necessarily reflect those of The Real Truth About Health and are provided by those panelists in their individual capacities. The Real Truth About Health has not reviewed or evaluated those statements or claims. 

Imagine someone telling you that they would only give your diet a "B-" when you've been eating whole foods, plant-based for over 35 years?! Well, that was the average grade Rip Esselstyn's diet received from today's guest, Dr. Doug Graham. Doug is most known for developing and authoring the 80-10-10 Diet Book; which is when 80% of your calories come from carbohydrates in the form of raw fruits and vegetables, 10% comes from plant protein, and the last 10% comes from fat. Not only does he live this way, but he actually wrote the book about it back in 2006. No doubt, Doug has unconventional opinions and data on topics like whole grains, beans, oats, protein, and even mono-eating, but it was wildly educational and eye-opening. You'll learn about the history of why we eat what we do, why cooked food may not be all it's cracked up to be, and how you can level up your own plate each day.   Episode Highlights 10:30 What exactly is 80-10-10? 13:30 isn't that many carbs bad for you? Don't we need more protein? 22:30 Doug's Biggest Fans in the plant-based world 23:30 What does he love so much about raw fruit, and why is it so important? 26:05 So THAT's why they call it a “sweet tooth!” 29:00 What are examples of Doug's breakfast and lunch? 33:30 The case for eating mono-meals 36:25 Why isn't he a fan of cooked foods, including beans, and potatoes? 37:45 What do the five GENS have to do with our longevity and health? (Think: CarcinoGENic) 45:15 Are all these GENS being created in beans and potatoes as well? 47:30 “Don't Eat the Paste.” What in the world is he talking about? 50:10 What did Dr. Nathan Pritikin get wrong? 53:00 Rip gets a B- on his diet?? Are you serious? 57:10 How does he feel about frozen fruit? 57:50 This sounds freaking expensive  1:03:30 Is he a fan of drinking water?  1:04:35 How does he recommend people make this transition? 1:06:30 What's his take on fiber?  1:12:15 Protein - Why does more not necessarily mean better? 1:23:00 what age should you start 80-10-10?   Episode Resources Episode Webpage Watch the Episode on YouTube Doug Graham's Website: https://foodnsport.com  Join our PLANTSTRONG Sedona Retreat - October 9-14, 2023 To stock up on the best-tasting, most convenient, 100% PLANTSTRONG foods, including our cereals, granolas, pizza kits, broths and soups, check out all of our PLANTSTRONG products HERE. Give us a like on the PLANTSTRONG Facebook Page and check out what being PLANSTRONG is all about. We always keep it stocked full of new content and updates, tips for healthy living, delicious recipes, and you can even catch me LIVE on there! We've also got an Instagram! Check us out and share your favorite PLANTSTRONG products and why you love it! Don't forget to tag us using #goplantstrong

Ingredients That Help To Combat Aging Itself And Improve Intimacy Dr. Nick Delgado • NickDelgado.com• Book – Blood Doesn't Lie #DrNickDelgado#Nutraceuticals #HealthCoach #MedicalRejuvenation Dr. Nick Delgado is an American doctor, public speaker, biochemist and endocrine researcher. He specializes in the physiology of aging. His expertise is in the extension of the human lifespan using medical rejuvenation.His has published many Books most recently • Blood Doesn't Lie, is about the most effective way to protect ourselves from infectious diseases or chronic degenerative diseases is to understand the concepts of proactive intervention, preventative medicine, and lifestyle support. Infectious diseases can spread quickly to many patients, and normal bodily defense systems play a significant preventative role, they are not the only things needed to stop a virulent disease. We in America rank 36th in the world in life expectancy and we have more sick days than many other countries. This reflects our toxic diets and sedentary, high-stress lifestyles, and it's time we took responsibility for our health and made better choices. As the saying goes you either invest in your health now, or you will pay later. Spending a few extra dollars on healthy food and nutraceuticals could mean saving hundreds of thousands of dollars down the road on doctors, hospitals, and insurance premiums. In Blood Doesn't Lie you will learn safe, all-natural ways to optimize your immune system to reduce your risk of contracting pathogens and minimize symptoms if you do. Delgado was born in Pasadena, CA to Nicholas Sr. and Beatrice Delgado. Nicholas Delgado Sr. worked as a truck driver, while Beatrice Delgado worked as an accountant. He has a sister, Susan Delgado, and two brothers, Gilbert Delgado and Mark Delgado. Delgado graduated from the University of Southern California with a BA in Psychology, pursuing postgraduate studies in Physical Therapy at USC Rancho Los Amigos Hospital and Nutrition at both California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) and California State University, Long Beach (CSULB). Delgado proceeded to obtain his PhD in Health Science from Loma Linda University.In 1979, Delgado became the director of the Pritikin Better Health Program, providing seminars alongside research scientist and the Pritikin Institute's founder, Nathan Pritikin. Dr. Nick Delgado Offers Personal Health coaching and can be contacted at his websiteNickDelgado.com Disclaimer:Medical and Health information changes constantly. Therefore, the information provided in this podcast should not be considered current, complete, or exhaustive. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The Real Truth About Health does not recommend or endorse any specific tests, products, procedures, or opinions referenced in the following podcasts, nor does it exercise any authority or editorial control over that material. The Real Truth About Health provides a forum for discussion of public health issues. The views and opinions of our panelists do not necessarily reflect those of The Real Truth About Health and are provided by those panelists in their individual capacities. The Real Truth About Health has not reviewed or evaluated those statements or claims. 

Sleep Is Absolutely Critical To Preventing The Aging Process Dr. Nick Delgado • NickDelgado.com• Book – Blood Doesn't Lie #DrNickDelgado#Nutraceuticals #HealthCoach #MedicalRejuvenation Dr. Nick Delgado is an American doctor, public speaker, biochemist and endocrine researcher. He specializes in the physiology of aging. His expertise is in the extension of the human lifespan using medical rejuvenation.His has published many Books most recently • Blood Doesn't Lie, is about the most effective way to protect ourselves from infectious diseases or chronic degenerative diseases is to understand the concepts of proactive intervention, preventative medicine, and lifestyle support. Infectious diseases can spread quickly to many patients, and normal bodily defense systems play a significant preventative role, they are not the only things needed to stop a virulent disease. We in America rank 36th in the world in life expectancy and we have more sick days than many other countries. This reflects our toxic diets and sedentary, high-stress lifestyles, and it's time we took responsibility for our health and made better choices. As the saying goes you either invest in your health now, or you will pay later. Spending a few extra dollars on healthy food and nutraceuticals could mean saving hundreds of thousands of dollars down the road on doctors, hospitals, and insurance premiums. In Blood Doesn't Lie you will learn safe, all-natural ways to optimize your immune system to reduce your risk of contracting pathogens and minimize symptoms if you do. Delgado was born in Pasadena, CA to Nicholas Sr. and Beatrice Delgado. Nicholas Delgado Sr. worked as a truck driver, while Beatrice Delgado worked as an accountant. He has a sister, Susan Delgado, and two brothers, Gilbert Delgado and Mark Delgado. Delgado graduated from the University of Southern California with a BA in Psychology, pursuing postgraduate studies in Physical Therapy at USC Rancho Los Amigos Hospital and Nutrition at both California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) and California State University, Long Beach (CSULB). Delgado proceeded to obtain his PhD in Health Science from Loma Linda University.In 1979, Delgado became the director of the Pritikin Better Health Program, providing seminars alongside research scientist and the Pritikin Institute's founder, Nathan Pritikin. Dr. Nick Delgado Offers Personal Health coaching and can be contacted at his websiteNickDelgado.com Disclaimer:Medical and Health information changes constantly. Therefore, the information provided in this podcast should not be considered current, complete, or exhaustive. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The Real Truth About Health does not recommend or endorse any specific tests, products, procedures, or opinions referenced in the following podcasts, nor does it exercise any authority or editorial control over that material. The Real Truth About Health provides a forum for discussion of public health issues. The views and opinions of our panelists do not necessarily reflect those of The Real Truth About Health and are provided by those panelists in their individual capacities. The Real Truth About Health has not reviewed or evaluated those statements or claims. 

What Is Necessary To Break The Aging Code Dr. Nick Delgado • NickDelgado.com• Book – Blood Doesn't Lie #DrNickDelgado#Nutraceuticals #HealthCoach #MedicalRejuvenation Dr. Nick Delgado is an American doctor, public speaker, biochemist and endocrine researcher. He specializes in the physiology of aging. His expertise is in the extension of the human lifespan using medical rejuvenation.His has published many Books most recently • Blood Doesn't Lie, is about the most effective way to protect ourselves from infectious diseases or chronic degenerative diseases is to understand the concepts of proactive intervention, preventative medicine, and lifestyle support. Infectious diseases can spread quickly to many patients, and normal bodily defense systems play a significant preventative role, they are not the only things needed to stop a virulent disease. We in America rank 36th in the world in life expectancy and we have more sick days than many other countries. This reflects our toxic diets and sedentary, high-stress lifestyles, and it's time we took responsibility for our health and made better choices. As the saying goes you either invest in your health now, or you will pay later. Spending a few extra dollars on healthy food and nutraceuticals could mean saving hundreds of thousands of dollars down the road on doctors, hospitals, and insurance premiums. In Blood Doesn't Lie you will learn safe, all-natural ways to optimize your immune system to reduce your risk of contracting pathogens and minimize symptoms if you do. Delgado was born in Pasadena, CA to Nicholas Sr. and Beatrice Delgado. Nicholas Delgado Sr. worked as a truck driver, while Beatrice Delgado worked as an accountant. He has a sister, Susan Delgado, and two brothers, Gilbert Delgado and Mark Delgado. Delgado graduated from the University of Southern California with a BA in Psychology, pursuing postgraduate studies in Physical Therapy at USC Rancho Los Amigos Hospital and Nutrition at both California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) and California State University, Long Beach (CSULB). Delgado proceeded to obtain his PhD in Health Science from Loma Linda University.In 1979, Delgado became the director of the Pritikin Better Health Program, providing seminars alongside research scientist and the Pritikin Institute's founder, Nathan Pritikin. Dr. Nick Delgado Offers Personal Health coaching and can be contacted at his websiteNickDelgado.com Disclaimer:Medical and Health information changes constantly. Therefore, the information provided in this podcast should not be considered current, complete, or exhaustive. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The Real Truth About Health does not recommend or endorse any specific tests, products, procedures, or opinions referenced in the following podcasts, nor does it exercise any authority or editorial control over that material. The Real Truth About Health provides a forum for discussion of public health issues. The views and opinions of our panelists do not necessarily reflect those of The Real Truth About Health and are provided by those panelists in their individual capacities. The Real Truth About Health has not reviewed or evaluated those statements or claims. 

The Diet As Good Or Better Than The Leading Statin Drugs On The Market Dr. Nick Delgado • NickDelgado.com• Book – Blood Doesn't Lie #DrNickDelgado#Nutraceuticals #HealthCoach #MedicalRejuvenation Dr. Nick Delgado is an American doctor, public speaker, biochemist and endocrine researcher. He specializes in the physiology of aging. His expertise is in the extension of the human lifespan using medical rejuvenation.His has published many Books most recently • Blood Doesn't Lie, is about the most effective way to protect ourselves from infectious diseases or chronic degenerative diseases is to understand the concepts of proactive intervention, preventative medicine, and lifestyle support. Infectious diseases can spread quickly to many patients, and normal bodily defense systems play a significant preventative role, they are not the only things needed to stop a virulent disease. We in America rank 36th in the world in life expectancy and we have more sick days than many other countries. This reflects our toxic diets and sedentary, high-stress lifestyles, and it's time we took responsibility for our health and made better choices. As the saying goes you either invest in your health now, or you will pay later. Spending a few extra dollars on healthy food and nutraceuticals could mean saving hundreds of thousands of dollars down the road on doctors, hospitals, and insurance premiums. In Blood Doesn't Lie you will learn safe, all-natural ways to optimize your immune system to reduce your risk of contracting pathogens and minimize symptoms if you do. Delgado was born in Pasadena, CA to Nicholas Sr. and Beatrice Delgado. Nicholas Delgado Sr. worked as a truck driver, while Beatrice Delgado worked as an accountant. He has a sister, Susan Delgado, and two brothers, Gilbert Delgado and Mark Delgado. Delgado graduated from the University of Southern California with a BA in Psychology, pursuing postgraduate studies in Physical Therapy at USC Rancho Los Amigos Hospital and Nutrition at both California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) and California State University, Long Beach (CSULB). Delgado proceeded to obtain his PhD in Health Science from Loma Linda University.In 1979, Delgado became the director of the Pritikin Better Health Program, providing seminars alongside research scientist and the Pritikin Institute's founder, Nathan Pritikin. Dr. Nick Delgado Offers Personal Health coaching and can be contacted at his websiteNickDelgado.com Disclaimer:Medical and Health information changes constantly. Therefore, the information provided in this podcast should not be considered current, complete, or exhaustive. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The Real Truth About Health does not recommend or endorse any specific tests, products, procedures, or opinions referenced in the following podcasts, nor does it exercise any authority or editorial control over that material. The Real Truth About Health provides a forum for discussion of public health issues. The views and opinions of our panelists do not necessarily reflect those of The Real Truth About Health and are provided by those panelists in their individual capacities. The Real Truth About Health has not reviewed or evaluated those statements or claims.   

New 2022 - Restore Your Body's Ability To Process Hormones  And Address The Root Cause Of A Laundry List Of Seemingly Unconnected Symptoms For Immunity Dr. Nick Delgado • NickDelgado.com• Book – Blood Doesn't Lie #DrNickDelgado#Nutraceuticals #HealthCoach #MedicalRejuvenation Dr. Nick Delgado is an American doctor, public speaker, biochemist and endocrine researcher. He specializes in the physiology of aging.His expertise is in the extension of the human lifespan using medical rejuvenation.His has published many Books most recently • Blood Doesn't Lie, is about the most effective way to protect ourselves from infectious diseases or chronic degenerative diseases is to understand the concepts of proactive intervention, preventative medicine, and lifestyle support. Infectious diseases can spread quickly to many patients, and normal bodily defense systems play a significant preventative role, they are not the only things needed to stop a virulent disease. We in America rank 36th in the world in life expectancy and we have more sick days than many other countries. This reflects our toxic diets and sedentary, high-stress lifestyles, and it's time we took responsibility for our health and made better choices. As the saying goes you either invest in your health now, or you will pay later. Spending a few extra dollars on healthy food and nutraceuticals could mean saving hundreds of thousands of dollars down the road on doctors, hospitals, and insurance premiums. In Blood Doesn't Lie you will learn safe, all-natural ways to optimize your immune system to reduce your risk of contracting pathogens and minimize symptoms if you do. Delgado was born in Pasadena, CA to Nicholas Sr. and Beatrice Delgado. Nicholas Delgado Sr. worked as a truck driver, while Beatrice Delgado worked as an accountant. He has a sister, Susan Delgado, and two brothers, Gilbert Delgado and Mark Delgado.Delgado graduated from the University of Southern California with a BA in Psychology, pursuing postgraduate studies in Physical Therapy at USC Rancho Los Amigos Hospital and Nutrition at both California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) and California State University, Long Beach (CSULB). Delgado proceeded to obtain his PhD in Health Science from Loma Linda University.In 1979, Delgado became the director of the Pritikin Better Health Program, providing seminars alongside research scientist and the Pritikin Institute's founder, Nathan Pritikin. Dr. Nick Delgado Offers Personal Health coaching and can be contacted at his websiteNickDelgado.com CLICK HERE - To Checkout Our MEMBERSHIP CLUB: http://www.realtruthtalks.com  • Social Media ChannelsFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TRTAHConferenceInstagram : https://www.instagram.com/therealtruthabouthealth/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/RTAHealth Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-real-truth-about-health-conference/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheRealTruthAboutHealth    • Check out our Podcasts  Visit us on Apple Podcast and Itunes search:  The Real Truth About Health Free 17 Day Live Online Conference Podcast Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/23a037be-99dd-4099-b9e0-1cad50774b5a/real-truth-about-health-live-online-conference-podcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0RZbS2BafJIEzHYyThm83J Google:https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zaW1wbGVjYXN0LmNvbS8yM0ZqRWNTMg%3D%3DStitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/real-truth-about-health-live-online-conference-podcastAudacy: https://go.audacy.com/partner-podcast-listen-real-truth-about-health-live-online-conference-podcastiHeartRadio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-real-truth-about-health-li-85932821/ Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/us/show/2867272 Reason: https://reason.fm/podcast/real-truth-about-health-live-online-conference-podcast • Other Video ChannelsYoutube:https://www.youtube.com/c/TheRealTruthAboutHealthVimeo:https://vimeo.com/channels/1733189Rumble:  https://rumble.com/c/c-1111513 Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/TRTAHConference/videos/?ref=page_internal DailyMotion: https://www.dailymotion.com/TheRealTruthAboutHealth BitChute:  https://www.bitchute.com/channel/JQryXTPDOMih/Disclaimer:Medical and Health information changes constantly. Therefore, the information provided in this podcast should not be considered current, complete, or exhaustive. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The Real Truth About Health does not recommend or endorse any specific tests, products, procedures, or opinions referenced in the following podcasts, nor does it exercise any authority or editorial control over that material. The Real Truth About Health provides a forum for discussion of public health issues. The views and opinions of our panelists do not necessarily reflect those of The Real Truth About Health and are provided by those panelists in their individual capacities. The Real Truth About Health has not reviewed or evaluated those statements or claims. 

7 Pillars Coaching To Look & Feel Great At Your Ideal Body Weight - Dr. Nick Delgado  Dr. Nick Delgado • NickDelgado.com• Book – Blood Doesn't Lie #DrNickDelgado  #Nutraceuticals #HealthCoach #MedicalRejuvenation Dr. Nick Delgado is an American doctor, public speaker, biochemist and endocrine researcher. He specializes in the physiology of aging.His expertise is in the extension of the human lifespan using medical rejuvenation.His has published many Books most recently • Blood Doesn't Lie, is about the most effective way to protect ourselves from infectious diseases or chronic degenerative diseases is to understand the concepts of proactive intervention, preventative medicine, and lifestyle support. Infectious diseases can spread quickly to many patients, and normal bodily defense systems play a significant preventative role, they are not the only things needed to stop a virulent disease. We in America rank 36th in the world in life expectancy and we have more sick days than many other countries. This reflects our toxic diets and sedentary, high-stress lifestyles, and it's time we took responsibility for our health and made better choices. As the saying goes you either invest in your health now, or you will pay later. Spending a few extra dollars on healthy food and nutraceuticals could mean saving hundreds of thousands of dollars down the road on doctors, hospitals, and insurance premiums. In Blood Doesn't Lie you will learn safe, all-natural ways to optimize your immune system to reduce your risk of contracting pathogens and minimize symptoms if you do. Delgado was born in Pasadena, CA to Nicholas Sr. and Beatrice Delgado. Nicholas Delgado Sr. worked as a truck driver, while Beatrice Delgado worked as an accountant. He has a sister, Susan Delgado, and two brothers, Gilbert Delgado and Mark Delgado.Delgado graduated from the University of Southern California with a BA in Psychology, pursuing postgraduate studies in Physical Therapy at USC Rancho Los Amigos Hospital and Nutrition at both California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) and California State University, Long Beach (CSULB). Delgado proceeded to obtain his PhD in Health Science from Loma Linda University.In 1979, Delgado became the director of the Pritikin Better Health Program, providing seminars alongside research scientist and the Pritikin Institute's founder, Nathan Pritikin. Dr. Nick Delgado Offers Personal Health coaching and can be contacted at his websiteNickDelgado.com CLICK HERE - To Checkout Our MEMBERSHIP CLUB: http://www.realtruthtalks.com  • Social Media ChannelsFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TRTAHConferenceInstagram : https://www.instagram.com/therealtruthabouthealth/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/RTAHealth Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-real-truth-about-health-conference/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheRealTruthAboutHealth    • Check out our Podcasts  Visit us on Apple Podcast and Itunes search:  The Real Truth About Health Free 17 Day Live Online Conference Podcast Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/23a037be-99dd-4099-b9e0-1cad50774b5a/real-truth-about-health-live-online-conference-podcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0RZbS2BafJIEzHYyThm83J Google:https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zaW1wbGVjYXN0LmNvbS8yM0ZqRWNTMg%3D%3DStitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/real-truth-about-health-live-online-conference-podcastAudacy: https://go.audacy.com/partner-podcast-listen-real-truth-about-health-live-online-conference-podcastiHeartRadio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-real-truth-about-health-li-85932821/ Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/us/show/2867272 Reason: https://reason.fm/podcast/real-truth-about-health-live-online-conference-podcast • Other Video ChannelsYoutube:https://www.youtube.com/c/TheRealTruthAboutHealthVimeo:https://vimeo.com/channels/1733189Rumble:  https://rumble.com/c/c-1111513 Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/TRTAHConference/videos/?ref=page_internal DailyMotion: https://www.dailymotion.com/TheRealTruthAboutHealth BitChute:https://www.bitchute.com/channel/JQryXTPDOMih/ Disclaimer:Medical and Health information changes constantly. Therefore, the information provided in this podcast should not be considered current, complete, or exhaustive. Reliance on any information provided in this podcast is solely at your own risk. The Real Truth About Health does not recommend or endorse any specific tests, products, procedures, or opinions referenced in the following podcasts, nor does it exercise any authority or editorial control over that material. The Real Truth About Health provides a forum for discussion of public health issues. The views and opinions of our panelists do not necessarily reflect those of The Real Truth About Health and are provided by those panelists in their individual capacities. The Real Truth About Health has not reviewed or evaluated those statements or claims. 

As Physician Director of the Betty Ford Center, Dr. Haroutunian has contributed to the development of a variety of programs, including their Extended Care Program, the Licensed Professional Program and the Clinical Diagnostic Evaluation Program. He is the author of the renowned book, Being Sober, the foreword for which was written by Steven Tyler of Aerosmith (and to whom Dr. Harry is not only a friend, but his sobriety coach). Dr. Harry collaborated with Dr. Louis Teresi on Hijacking the Brain: How Drug and Alcohol Addiction Hijacks our Brains - The Science Behind Twelve-Step Recovery.Episode highlights: Dr. Harry and I discussed his perspectives from tens of thousands of hours of clinical (and personal) experience with alcohol abuse and recovery.First and foremost, he notes his strong family predilection for substance abuse disorder with alcohol.Dr. Harry believes childhood is where the roots of all substance abuse disorders are rooted.60% of alcohol abuse disorder is driven by genetics. But Dr. Harry emphasizes the importance of environmental/social pressures in aggravating genetic tendencies.The association of alcohol abuse recovery and sugar cravings is documented and strong. The C.A.G.E. questionnaire is a great screening for alcohol dependency.If anyone wants to reach out to Dr. Harry for gold standard support into substance abuse disorder recovery, call 760-972-7840.Notably, Dr. Harry is a big fan of Nathan Pritikin and the Pritikin Diet, having attended programs at the Pritikin Longevity Center when it was originally in Santa Monica, CA and run by Nathan himself.

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Today I am talking with Dr. Joel Kahn. Joel Kahn, MD, FACC of Detroit, Michigan, is a practicing cardiologist, and a Clinical Professor of Medicine at Wayne State University School of Medicine.  He graduated Summa Cum Laude from the University of Michigan Medical School. Known as "America’s Healthy Heart Doc", Dr. Kahn has triple board certification in Internal Medicine, Cardiovascular Medicine and Interventional Cardiology. Dr. Kahn has authored scores of publications in his field including articles, book chapters and monographs. He writes health articles and has five books in publication including Your Whole Heart Solution, Dead Execs Don’t Get Bonuses and The Plant Based Solution. His 6th book, Lipoprotein(a): The Heart’s Silent Killer, is about to be published. He has regular appearances on Dr. Phil, The Doctors Show, Dr. Oz, Larry King Now, Joe Rogan Experience, and with Bassem Yousef.www.drjoelkahn.com This series features conversations I conducted with individuals who have dedicated their work and lives to Vegan research, businesses, art, and society. This podcast series is hosted by Patricia Kathleen and Wilde Agency Media. TRANSCRIPTION*Please note, this is an automated transcription please excuse any typos or errors[00:00:00] In this episode, I had the fortunate opportunity to speak with America's healthy heart doc, Dr. Joel Kahn. Dr. Kahn is a practicing cardiologist and a clinical professor of medicine at Wayne State University School of Medicine. Key points addressed were Dr. Kahn's books, titled The Plant Based Solution, published in 2018, and his most recent book, Leipold Protein Little, a published in March of 2020. We also conducted a Q&A with Dr. Khan regarding some of the most common inquiries. Our audience had regarding cardiovascular health and Vegan diets. Stay tuned for my informative talk with Dr. Joel Kahn. [00:00:45] My name is Patricia Kathleen, and this series features interviews and conversations I conduct with experts from food and fashion to tech and agriculture, from medicine and science to health and humanitarian arenas. The dialog captured here is part of our ongoing effort to host transparent and honest rhetoric. For those of you who, like myself, find great value in hearing the expertize and opinions of individuals who have dedicated their work and lives to their ideals. If you're enjoying these podcasts, be sure to check out our subsequent series that dove deep into specific areas such as founders and entrepreneurs. Fasting and roundtable topics. They can be found on our Web site. Patricia Kathleen, dot com, where you can also join our newsletter. You can also subscribe to all of our series on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Pod Bean and YouTube. Thanks for listening. Now let's start the conversation. [00:01:42] Hi, everyone, and welcome back. I'm your host, Patricia. [00:01:45] And today, I'm delighted to be sitting down with Dr. Joel Kahn. He is a practicing cardiologist and a clinical professor of medicine at Wayne State University School of Medicine. You can find out more about all of his endeavors on his Web site. W w w. Dr. Joel Kahn, K. H and dot com. Welcome, Joel. [00:02:05] Thank you very much. Excited to be here. [00:02:08] I am excited to have you on as well. We were talking prior to recording and you're involved in an insane amount of endeavors. But today I'm going to kind of forecast for everyone listening. We're going to unpack a couple of Dr. Kahn's works and then get into some general questions that our audience has reached out and kind of wanted to know on the medical forefront. Before I get to all of that, for everyone listening, I will offer a brief bio on Dr. Khan, as well as a roadmap for today's podcast. Let me start with the roadmap. We'll look at unpacking a couple of books, as I mentioned. One being the plant based solution published in 2020. And then we'll look at another book, Libro Protein A and kind of is the latest launch. And then I'll get into the general questions that a lot of you have reached out regarding some of the covered 19 pandemic inquiries and future scientific research being done as it relates to the Vegan diet and heart health prior to getting into all of that. Let me quickly do a bio on Dr. Kahn. Joel Kahn, M.D., F.A. of Detroit, Michigan, is a practicing cardiologist. Any clinical professor of medicine at Wayne State University School of Medicine. He graduated summa cum laude from the University of Michigan Medical School known as America's Healthy Heart Doc. Dr. Kahn has triple board certification in internal medicine, cardiovascular medicine and interventional cardiology. He was the first physician in the world to certify and metabolic cardiology within a four m m m I and the University of South Florida. He founded the Kahn Center for Cardiac Longevity and Bingham Farms, Michigan. Dr. Kahn has authored scores of publications in his field, including articles, book chapters and monographs. He writes healthy health articles and has five books in publication, including Your Whole Heart Solution Dead Exacts Don't Give Bonuses and the Plant Based Solution. His sixth book, Lipoprotein A., was just released, I believe, in March of this year. The Heart Silent Killer. He has regular appearances on Dr. Phil the Doctor Show, Dr. Oz, Larry King, now Joe Rogan experience and with Bassem Youssef. He has been awarded a Health Hero Award from Detroit Crain's Business. He owns GreenSpace and Go, a health restaurant in suburban Detroit, and he serves as medical director of the largest plant based support group in the USA. W w w dot p and s g dot org. Dr Con again can be found at w. W. W. Dr Joel Corn. Dot com. So I'd like to launch straight into your book and the inquiries that we have within that, namely the plant based solution that was published in 2020. We grabbed a quote from online. That's no disease that can be treated. Oh I'm sorry. It's the dedication that you did in this book that I found to be so pertinent after reading it. And it's no disease that can be treated by diet, should be treated with any other means by an old philosopher in the 12th century. I can't remember. Moloney's how do you pronounce that? [00:05:17] My Munadi My Money is a Spanish Moroccan born rabbi. Physician and I lived in Egypt most of his life. Quite a remarkable history in and of itself. [00:05:30] Yeah. And I like the quote. It reminds me a lot of like let food be thy medicine. People getting into some of the Aristotle and things. The book is described as a passionate, compelling and scientific argument for plant based nutrition. [00:05:45] You get into. For everyone who's listening and hasn't read it or would like to get a brief overview on it. It explores weight loss, how most people get it wrong when it comes to calcium protein, carbs. It's a relationship between lay people's knowledge and the heart health. And then you kind of unpack these different areas. The links between Vegan diet and your sex drive, gut health, brain chemistry, why plants might hold the key to better aging, eating out, stocking your pantry. And the whole thing is kind of wrapped up with this 21 day meal plan and advice for, as I call them, action items or this implant implementation into one's life. And my first question for you is in in your previous book, Dead Exists, Don't Get Bonuses, you focus on the coronary heart disease and you talk about a lot of the statistics and the science behind it. And this one seems to be like an application guide as you and. Talking about earlier. And I'm wondering what the impetus for the change in that was, what what the kind of inspiration behind writing this was. [00:06:50] You know, I spent decades practicing as a cardiologist. And that book called that exact I don't get bonuses and even my previous book, first book called Your Whole Heart Solution at a Real Cardiology Focus. It's my training. It's my practice. It's my primary avocation. But I had not written a book that went deep into plant based nutrition, that went deep into the science and went beyond her disease because the plant based solution goes well beyond our disease to speak about some other entities you talk about. And I wanted to do it. I just needed a resource to give to my patients. And people were asking in a way that didn't require, you know, a month to read, wasn't thick enough to know if your table were shaking. It was the heavy book you'd pick to balance it out. So I wanted it to have content and medical support, of course, but to be an easy read for people. And as you say, to be practical. So it ends with recipes. It ends with pantry, stocking solutions or the very challenging what do you do when you go over family or go to restaurants? Well, you know, very, very grounded in the science literature. I was always amazed. You know, there are a growing number of plant based cardiologists and there should be a growing number of plant based nephrologists and pulmonologists and gynecologists and all the others. I don't like dividing the body into organs. It all works together in one symphony when it's working well. But there really wasn't a book by a cardiologist. And with all respect, Esselstyn trained as a surgeon and Dr. Ornish trained as an internist and others. It just wasn't a bug out there with the experience I had over decades of treating heart attacks and congestive heart failure. And now I'm being part of hospital faculty. So I put that all together. And thank you for your kind words about it. I think it's a practical book. [00:08:47] Absolutely it is. I'm wondering how you chose. How did you curated? [00:08:50] Was it combined from patients that you had over the years or was it from areas that you found to be most integral for the person picking up an informational moment about diet and cardio health? [00:09:03] It was clearly based on, you know, by the time I wrote that book, it came out. I think you mentioned 20, 20, but actually came out in twenty eighteen, to be fair. No problem. I wrote most of it in late twenty seventeen. I mean I've been plant based since nineteen seventy seven. I started cardiology practice in nineteen ninety. So literally by the time I wrote that book I had twenty seven years of experience recommending to heart patients, high blood pressure patients, weight challenged patients, cholesterol patients, diabetic patients, auto immune patients. That there was science to suggest I would add multiple sclerosis patients. There was science to suggest shifting their diet to a complete or nearly complete whole food plant based diet would be of some potential therapeutic benefit. I had so many wonderful results and stunning results and people that avoided surgery and people that hit their goal, reduced their medication. Ever get on a medication, avoid surgery? So it certainly was based on that. This is the real deal. There's nothing theoretical about the science base and the practical application of whole food plant diets. The frustrated group is the small group that are trying hard and don't reach that goal. They're not getting enough blood pressure meds and they're not getting off cholesterol medicine. And that's what I try and help them with in my clinic in suburban Detroit is what are we missing? You know what's missing in their physiology, their chemistry, their genetics, their toxicology or their diet itself? [00:10:29] But majority people respond dramatically well and really just need a little push. A book like mine, watch a couple of videos, have a couple simple recipes. And, you know, you don't need to hold their hand for 30 years. They'll get it because they're gonna feel better in two, three, four weeks. The majority of the time. [00:10:49] Yeah. And ideally, there wouldn't be a lot of handholding, particularly between your clinic. What I like about the book is it talks a lot about prevention and not just treatment of heart disease. I feel like, you know, and when one goes into a cardiologist, there's already an issue. You know, you have a specialty that a lot of people don't talk about prevention. It's more about treatment once there becomes a problem. And so I like the idea of a book coming from the concept of prevention. [00:11:17] Do you feel like we are moving towards that as a society, into a prevention based model, or are we still based in a treatment moment when it comes to cardio health or crawling or crawling if if a average person walked into or maybe you say if a person walked into an average cardiologist office and said, I feel great, I just want you to check me. They probably would be told we don't do that here. Yeah, it's that in every case, in a large practice, there might be one cardiologist in twenty five that has that preventive interest. You know, you'd end up getting a stress test you probably don't need and some routine bloodwork. It's what I do know every day of the week in my clinic and people don't need to have a problem. In fact, I had a wonderful follow up phone call today with a woman who we went through the process of checking her advanced labs. She already was on a excellent diet of plants. And all we did was celebrate the fact you're healthy, you're healthy or healthy. You'll see in 10 years. I mean, that is a wonderful thing. And it ends the relationship and it ends anxiety. Allow these people have a family history like she did of a father with a heart attack at a young age and able to share such good news. But very often it's not such good news. There is heart disease, there is inflammation, there is metabolic abnormalities, vitamin abnormalities, and there's just lots to do. And food is the basis and food fix is most of it. But if you're low in vitamin D, if you're missing, I have to. I mean, I got to be very specific with some of the testing we do. I know nutrition science. Just you know, the reason I wrote the book in part, nutrition science is tough and that's why we see this war of Quito Paleo, you know, Mediterranean diet. There's a Mediterranean diet aren't as aggressive as the pro paleo pro Iquito. Prokhanov for the vegans are weak ninnies and meat eaters are strong and incredible. It's just amazing how contentious it is. It's also difficult to do good nutrition science. It's hard to get a thousand people to eat in different patterns for 20 years and really make measurements. So you've got to do the best with what you have from basic science, from epidemiology, from the few randomized studies like Dr. Ornish. Just you got to take a jam, put it all together and try and be very honest with the data. I mean, once in a while, an article comes out that low fat dairy may be decent for your blood pressure. Well, I'm not going to recommend my patients start drinking milk if they're not. But after recognizer is some data out there. So you got to be fair and authentic. [00:13:52] Yeah. And you mentioned in a previous interview, I think it was a podcast or something we dug up on YouTube. But you talked about and it was kind of a divisive rhetoric, you know. [00:14:02] I think was it more aggrandize than when I watched it at a Google talks between yourself and some experts with them? The names are escaping me, but with Anderson from what? [00:14:13] The Health and Dave Asprey from Bulletproof Coffee. Yeah, well, reporters in California. [00:14:20] Yeah. You talked a lot about in the clip I saw the divisiveness is concerning for someone who's trying to get, you know, good health out of good health information and things like that. [00:14:30] Because you stated in this clip your concern was that if if you hear one camp saying one thing, one camp saying directly opposite the, you know, the client or the public walks away and does nothing and they're walking and they walk and they walk into McDonald's in one days because they say the experts can't figure this out. [00:14:48] I'll just eat what I want to eat and doesn't seem to really matter. So it does really confuse the public. I just give an example. 60 years, a science suggests the more saturated fat, rich foods you eat butter, cheese, pepperoni, bacon, the more likely to develop heart disease and a lot of other things. Diabetes, cancer, dementia. Decades of science. The last 10 years that got very muddied by some very poor science that got big headlines like Time magazine butter's back cover in 2014. But about four or five weeks ago, the most prestigious science group independent of funding did a review paper. Saturated fat causes heart disease. When you cut back butter and cheese and pepperoni and croissance and pizza, you will reduce your cholesterol. You reduce your risk of having a heart attack or stroke. This is the most respected group. So I wrote a couple blogs. I did a interview. All that stuff came on the last week. It did nothing to bring any real unity, even though the science is pretty well unified. If you're entrenched, meat, cheese, butter, eggs, pro science are good for you. You know, you ignore the science. You find some flaw in it even when there really isn't much of a flaw. So it's unfortunate that food wars exist. But it really what I always come back to when I lecture and I'll be quiet. And if you look at the Harvard School of Public Health, they have a food plate from 2011. Fruits, vegetables, whole grains, healthy protein. If you look at Canada's food plate, 2019, same beautiful food plate. We look at peace. Cierra physician, Kabbani, responsible medicine, all plant food. There actually is tremendous unanimity around the world by reasonable people that your diet should be brightly colored, whole fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes. I don't add in small amounts of extra meat. Some of these food plates give you the option of adding in small amounts of eggs and meat. I think diets are better when they don't include that. But we're really talking about truly a very tiny debate with tremendous unanimity. But, you know, if you've got a platform and a, you know, a YouTube channel, Alhurra, a blog, you can create a mountain of what is really a molehill of differences. [00:17:09] Yeah. And I like the celebration of unifying factors. You talk a lot about how a lot of these people, you know, everyone is in unison that white flour, sugar, processed foods, these things should not be in one's diet. And beginning from that standpoint, I think is good. And yes, the the visual representations that have come out since 2016 and the advice they're all very similar to looking can turn the old food paradigm where it needs to be, which isn't just on its head. [00:17:37] I think just to complete rubbish. I want to look at the book like a protein A and I told you before we started, I hadn't thought it had launched yet. I was corrected. You said it's been out since March. I think I've been in a little bit. There it is. I think I've been in a little bit of a cave. But what I did see, what I did do is find research from you yourself online, making up a recipe of overnight oats. I'm always amazed. I fancy myself as a very adventurous Vegan cook. And I've been doing a search for 10 years. And it's always amazing to me how there's just this the overnight oats I haven't ever made. And it's so ironic. But I think that it's it points to the utility of books like this. And I'm hoping you can speak because I haven't read it a little bit about the impetus for writing it and what it contains, aside from recipes. [00:18:27] But as I say, started out writing kind of cardiology books for the public, wrote a couple books directly on the Vegan topic. This actually brings the two together. It's a very interesting story I'll blurt out in about two minutes. But it turns out about 60 years ago, a kind of cholesterol. This we get a little science, see that you can inherit from mom and dad was identified in the blood and it is called it's a terrible name. If you're were in the marketing field, Lifebook Protein Live Olay. Anybody can see the cover, the book. The word liberal isn't there. It's lowercase A.. But that's how it's pronounced scientifically. Lipoprotein Little A, you could ask your family doctor, your internist, your gynecologist next routine physical. Can you add a light poke protein little a blood level to my standard blood. It's a form of cholesterol you inherit from your mom and dad. And if you inherit it and if it's high, it can clog up your arteries. It can lead to heart attack, stroke, erectile dysfunction aneurysms and even destroy one of the heart valves in the heart. And it does it very slowly and very progressively because since you inherit it, it's in your blood. From the time of conception forward, the dramatic statement is 25 to 30 percent of people inherit it. So that means 90 million Americans, one point eight billion people worldwide and hardly a doctor in the United States checks the little box to measure it. It's been researched. There's hundreds and hundreds of very high quality research articles and it has been mentioned. If you have a family history, if mom had a stroke at age 48, if dad had bypass surgery at age 52, maybe your doctor should order this. But that's rarely done, even though that's been in the mainstream. But just recently, there's a growing incentive. Maybe everybody should just ask, is it twenty or thirty dollar blood tests? It's not like a fancy genetic test. It's just a blood test. And find out early in life. Did you inherit it or not? It's kind of that's why it's a silent heart killer, because it's silent in part because we don't test for it. And also, by its nature, it's slowly, slowly, slowly can damage vessels. And this tradition also you can get your routine cholesterol. Your cholesterol is one hundred and eighty and your HDL, your LDL. It won't show up on that. And it could be that your lipoproteins is still very high, the standard treatment of cholesterol. Exercise. Change your diet. Take your lipid tour. Take your Crestor or do very little to lower it. If you inherit a high level, I have a whole practice full of people with very high blood levels, and many of them have had a bypass, heart attack, a stroke and other problems, heart valve surgery. The vitamin niacin can lower it, but there's at least some science at a Whole Foods plant. Diet can also lower it. And even if it doesn't lower it much, it'll probably lower the blood pressure to lower the blood sugar, to lower the more commonly checked LDL cholesterol at a lower inflammation. So, you know, that's why the book is Half Science and half beautiful recipes, including the overnight out recipe that I did a little YouTube video on. [00:21:41] I mean, I brought in one of my favorite plant based recipe writers, Beverly Lynn Bennett. I've worked with her before. So it's kind of like the plant based solution, their science. And then there's some practical steps. There's all this gorgeous food and the food and the recipes were specifically selected to be very likely to help control cholesterol, blood pressure, inflammation, blood sugar. They're delicious, but they emphasize things like oats, oats, lower cholesterol by the soluble fiber and the glue cans and a lot of chia hemp flax seeds, which can lower cholesterol and blood pressure. So there it's kind of a heart healthy, delicious diet book with some fascinating science and probably somebody listening right now. Undoubtedly, somebody watching this has a high lipoprotein egg because it's come it's the most common genetic heart risk that exists. But we never talk about it. I'm trying to break that there. But, you know, somebody is going to benefit just by thinking, God, my whole family's riddled with heart disease and they keep telling me we don't know why. No, nobody smoke and nobody has insulin required diabetes. I'm telling you. Check your libro protein, literally. [00:22:53] It reminds me when you're saying this. [00:22:55] We've spoken to a few autoimmune experts about veganism, you know, the vegan diet and the auto immune triggers and things of that nature. And I know from the sound of it, it's going to build regardless, except for, you know, these these things that you can do with diet and maybe niacin. [00:23:13] But he isn't similar. It's not a trigger. It's not a switch that's getting switched on like the autoimmune. Right. It's just destined to build more than genetic. [00:23:22] We know what chromosome we know and which genes are involved. And the trigger is conception. Right. Unlike the idea that there might be a gut issue that triggers lupus or a toxicity from Roundup that might trigger an auto immune disease, a gut damage. So nothing triggers us. It just sits there circulating in the blood, knocking into arteries, knocking in the Arpels, causing a reaction that, again, slowly, slowly, slowly. But by the time you're forty five, you might be sitting on a little ticking time bomb you didn't know about without scaring anybody. But it is possible. Yeah. You talk about the big famous just so people can relate. A lot of people used to watch The Biggest Loser show and there was Jillian Michaels looking repped and there was Bob Harper looking. Well, three years ago, Bob Harper at age 51, had a massive heart attack and almost died. And he announced a couple months later when he had recovered from a very long illness, that he found out he had inherited a very high level of late pope protein, little ache, and he was under treatment now and very optimistic for the future. But what if he found out 10 years before we can argue? What could he have done about it? There is a drug in development that will be the answer to the problem. But in the meantime, get your diet right exercise. Get your weight right. Know your numbers. I mean, take super good care yourself. [00:24:47] Yeah. You talk a lot about kind of affecting. I think it's important, especially for scientists as well. Particularly when you get into book writing and things like that to consider all groups and industries within, you know, the people they are talking about, which are all masses of people in your society. And to that end, I was curious, you know, you talk a lot about fast food. And in even in something I watched you talked about, you know, just as the sad irony of having a Wendy's or McDonald's in their hospital green room before the rat reception. Yeah, but I'm wondering to that end to kind of speaking to everybody, all socioeconomic classes and things of that nature in the book, Libo Lipoprotein Little A.. When you went to form your recipes, did you consider like the nationwide availability of the products of the ingredients that you were putting in those recipes, income, status or other like necessary moments to think about when you were trying to make. Accessible to everybody, but also have the same or the necessary ingredients to help the condition. [00:25:53] You know, in general, a well constructed whole food plan diet is an inexpensive and widely accessible diet. You just got to get back to basics. A lot of the recipes have brown rice. The recipes have Ghinwa. The recipes have beans and peas and lentils. The lagoon family, which if you know, you go to a bulk store and you buy big bags of dried rice and dried beans, you know, you need access to produce. Could be frozen big bags. The book doesn't stress organic because that becomes a price point. Many people get it. It's a nice add on when it's available and when you can afford it. But nonetheless, any well constructed whole food plan diet, even if it's not organic, is going to beat out from a total health standpoint. Almost any plant based plant, animal based meal, whether it's organic or not. So I think it is sensitive to all that. And there are other great resources. I wrote a book two ago with coauthor Ellen Jaffe Jones. She has a great paperback called Vegan on Four Dollars a Day that I would recommend anybody who's really trying. And it was written probably seven, eight years ago. So maybe it's Vegan and six dollars a day now. But there are so many tips in a book like that that you could adapt a few. But it takes a little preparation and, you know, a little bit of courage to dove into these recipes if you're coming from a place that has never really cooked. You've just got to have a chopping board and some good nice. [00:27:25] You mentioned on one of the episodes I saw that an average C.T. scan tips to obtain artery health reports and calcium scan ESAN. [00:27:35] Seventy five to one hundred dollars in most major hospitals. And this is a piece of information. I had no idea. I think you get thousands. I don't have a great idea about how much medical tests cost since the bills. Always astronomical from anything I hear about. And I'm wondering if you have a basic elevator pitch style pieces of advice like that within the cardiac health industry that you give people who kind of run into you and are looking for like your top type five pieces of advice. You talk about men being between the ages of 45 and 50, getting there for a C.T. scan if they haven't had one. And things like that. You have other little pieces of information that you like to give off to people as quickly as possible when you run into them. [00:28:12] Yeah. You know, I have a few little things that roll off my tongue over and over. And one of them is, you know, we can talk about recipes and food, but it takes technology added to great lifestyle to really cement the security that you and I are going to have a sudden medical adverse event or particularly cardiovascular heart adverse event. And, you know, talking about getting a blood test for Lipoprotein Little A is actually a very technical topic. I could go on and on and refine that about the genetics of it, but we don't need to simply just check a box and get it. Similarly, you know what I bring up all the time with patients. Just think about it. You know, somebody recommended you to get a mammogram at age 45. If you're a woman, somebody recommended you get a call and ask could be at age 50 at an annual physical. Did anybody want to check your heart in all that? And even if you say, I know my father had a stent at age 59, did anybody recommend anything? So that's where the entree is to talk about that. There actually has been a test, quick CAT scan, no dye, no needle, no pain, no claustrophobia. It used to be a thousand dollars 20 years ago, but in the hospitals in suburban Detroit and usually around the country, it's one hundred dollar range and you just pay out of pocket and you immediately know I'm weathering life well with clean cut, flexible arteries that are degraded by calcium deposits, which make your arteries hard, hardening of the arteries, or there's a problem. Something's going on. I'm walking around with heart disease. I didn't know about it. You need to find that preventive doctor in your community and work with him or her and get a handle on it and get your diet. You know, the plant based solution done of approved diet. So test, I guess, comes out of my mouth. Prevent, not stent. Lot of people are getting invasive procedures. Stents bypass. All the data, including just in the last six weeks is for the majority of people. This is hardcore science data at the best centers in the world can be approached with medication, diet, fitness and avoid stents. A bypass or prevent that stent is a nice little one. You know, you mention, you know, I just like the word reversal. So many people come to me. They've had heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, erectile dysfunction, gut issues. And just to open Pandora's box, that it may be related to their lifestyle and it may be possible to reverse some or all of it is to most patients an idea that's never been brought up with them before. You know, I had no idea there's a chance I might be able to reduce my blood pressure, blood sugar, blood. Heart medication, if you worked very hard at it, you're going to have to work very hard at it. But gives people a lot of hope and a lot of actually empowerment to know that they know it's not all about the prescription pad the doctor has. It's a lot about the pantry, the grocery store, the fridge aerator, the freezer, the treadmill, the sidewalk, the pillow. You've got to sleep at night. The whole lifestyle that I educate patients. [00:31:17] Yeah. And speaking to lifestyles, I've been on YouTube. And it seems like some of the videos since the Cauvin 19 pandemic has really set in and the stay at home quarantine has been advised. [00:31:29] You have a lot of little I like your videos, the very brief, very succinct, and I'm very diversified. You have a lot of things, combination of exercise and stacking, a combination of exercises, movements, connection to the earth, conquer thing. You talk about melatonin and the recent research being done in treatment, or at least alongside the Kovik 19, the microbiome of an Apple nutrition of sprouts and the sprouting book with a colleague of yours that came out nitric oxide. Are there any other things that you're kind of looking at right now? Vitamins, exercise, et cetera, that you do like that that are kind of at the forefront of what you're what you're looking at with health as diversified as they might be? [00:32:11] Yeah. You know, so just since you brought up the word covered, 19, you know, nobody can authentically say we actually know how to prevent it or treat it. We're struggling to find that pathway. There's a lot of people talking about that. There isn't prominent professor of what's called pulmonary critical care medicine in Norfolk, Virginia, who suggested it might be reasonable to add in some vitamin D, some vitamins, C, some zinc. These are supplements. You can do it in your food. Of course, you know, zinc is a quite rich in soy like hemp and tofu template of melatonin at night is one of his recommendations. And there is finally an antioxidant called quercetin, which is finding garlic and apples and onions and cherries. But there are people that are taking a course. It's an supplement based on reasonable recommendations. Do we know? Has it been studied? We don't. These are very safe, very inexpensive supplements. Pennies a day. Good night's sleep. Maintaining proper body weight, excess body weight has been a risk factor for not doing well if you do contact Koven 19. You might be in a state of constant inflammation. Here you got a virus that triggers massive inflammation. If you started a high point, that's going to be a little easier to reach a critical inflammatory status. And of course, wash your hands and physical distance as appropriate and wear your mask as appropriate for sure. Those are all interesting. There is actually just to mention there's a theory. Again, remember, 25 to 30 percent of people have lipoprotein little they elevated in their blood. One of the bad actions of this special cholesterol inherited Mollica is it can cause blood, the clot. And one of the tragic circumstances in a lot of cases, sick people with Cauvin, 19 in the ICU is all of sudden there's clotting everywhere. There's clotting in the heart, there's clotting in the lungs, there's clotting. It's a theory that lipoprotein the delay may be partly to explain why some people just explode with this terrible issue and others don't. So not now, but maybe the God forbid, the next pandemic will have more people that are where they have lipoprotein little a inherited problem. I'll have a better therapy for MRSA or anything else. I'm working. I'm always working on something. I'm deep, deep right now into the endocannabinoid system. You know, the fact that we have a chemicals in receptors in our body, that when you access cannabis or hemp or know CBD, why does that activate reactions and about. I'm just reading a lot about it. Oh, it is. These are phyto cannabinoids, plant based chemicals that are hacking into our own internal system. Most people don't know we make a series of chemicals in our body that are the authentic cannabis like chemicals, and it just happens to be many plants. But cannabis is the most famous plant. You don't have to smoke it. It could be a hemp oil capsule or A-S, but many plants have a response in the body, just like our own internal system. Some people there may be the future diagnosis. Maybe you have a hypo cannabinoid system. You better add in some cannabinoids like hemp oil. It's a fascinating pathway right now being looked at in anxiety, poor sleep. Some metabolic issues, some pain issues. So I'm pretty deep into learning as much as possible on that. [00:35:50] Excellent. I look forward to your findings. And I reached out to some of our audience members and colleagues when I knew I was going to be speaking with a cardiologist today. And I asked them about any questions that they had late or not. I told them I wasn't going to quote any of them. And I have a few I'd like to run by you. One is and kind of a general inquiry that how would one know without pain or some kind of a cardiac arrest moment if there was an issue with their heart. [00:36:22] Yeah. So I don't wait for the cardiac arrest. Very bad way to find out. You have heart disease because recovery from that is very low. Again, just succinctly. Get a few extra blood tests, get blood tests. Go see your doctor. Get your blood pressure check. Get the routine stuff. Maybe ask for the lipoprotein little lei and maybe a test of inflammation. The C reactive protein. [00:36:46] But I'm going to reach over. And just so a visual is always better. This is a practice for sure. But again, if people aren't familiar, there's a great documentary you can find on Netflix called The Widowmaker movie, and I'm not in it. It's about seven, eight years old. But this is a picture of a CAT scan of the heart. That's the bones on the outside. The lungs are black, the heart and the metal. And there's a yellow arrow. If you want to know if you're walking around with silent blocked arteries that you're not aware of, you get is called a coronary artery calcium scan. And you need a prescription generally from your doctor. And you spend, as I say, seventy five. One hundred dollars. If you're being charged more than that. Just call the next hospital. And if you want to learn more about it. The Widowmaker movie, Boom, you'll have all the data you need. And that is now recommended by the American Heart Association and others. This is not a unique viewpoint that I have. Yeah. [00:37:44] OK. And how so? Olive oil, coconut oil and other plant based oils have been something that a lot of people that we've reached out to feel like they've had misinformation about. [00:37:55] And how do you feel about these particular oils when added as condiments or sources to a vegan diet? [00:38:03] So very hot topic when I know a lot about. And I'll give you again a quick answer. You've got to go back to science. Number one, people have been using olive oil for thousands of years. That's not true of coconut oil. It's a basic component of the Mediterranean diet, which we learned in the 1950s resulted in a much lower rate of diabetes, cancer, dementia and heart disease than junky Western foods. So you could ingest in Crete and the island of Crete off of Greece. They drank olive oil like a liter a week. It constituted 40 percent of their calories of their diet. And they had very low rates of these diseases. But it wasn't butter and it wasn't lard and it wasn't ghee. And there's no coconut trees in Crete. It wasn't coconut. There is also very strong data from the Harvard School of Public Health that if you're using butter or if you're using lard and you switch over to extra virgin olive oil, you will def. And actually, it's also true of other plant oils. You will definitely drop your risk statistically of developing heart disease. So olive oil has gotten a very bad rap in some portions of the Vegan world because if you're the very small slice of the pie. It is terrible heart disease. And when somebody comes to me and says, I'm supposed to have bypass surgery next week, what do I do? I'm going to definitely advise them. Whole food, plant based, no added oil diet, because that's consistent with the studies by Dr. Esselstyn, Dr. Ornish, Mr. Nathan Pritikin and such. But that's a very small slice. If you're sitting at home and you're healthy. Maybe if add your calcium score down and it's great and you want to drizzle some extra virgin olive oil on your Froogle a salad. God bless you. Enjoy it. It's a delicious way. [00:39:47] And it may actually help you absorb fat soluble vitamins like vitamin D, invite him and even vitamin A out of your foods a little better. So I'm not as rigid that nobody can have oil. Coconut oil has a unique position. It's very high in saturated fat where olive oil, avocado oil and canola oil are very low in saturated fat. And there's just no data that coconut oil actually supports healthy heart lifestyle. It's not part of the Mediterranean diet. Some people mentioned that it just doesn't exist. It's a it's a tropical plant. It's not a Mediterranean basin plant. And there is concern that oil raises cholesterol. The official word to the American Heart and American College of Cardiology Associations is we're concerned avoid eliminated from your diet. Put it on your skin if you want, but don't eat it. There was this trend by Dave Astbury. Here's a cup of coffee. Here's a couple tablespoons of coconut oil. Your brain will be fired up for super function, but some people's cholesterol go insane with that approach. Two hundred to five hundred in three weeks. So if you're going to do it, do it with an experimental mind to at least check your blood work. But I don't use coconut oil. I do use extra virgin olive oil. But I know my arteries are wickedly clean. Thank you. [00:41:09] Absolutely. Well, and to that end, yeah, I did. And once I heard it was going to produce all sorts of brain clarity, I myself down just a straight tablespoon, never felt any clarity. There's that personally. [00:41:21] Try getting a lot of it. You will find clarity in your colon because it causes a very rapid diarrhea. You do. [00:41:28] I did not do enough. That would have stopped me as well. I'm wondering. We've had a lot of feedback from people who've spoken to either advisors, health advisors, to people that said they spoke with doctors, just general M.D. and that said that they shouldn't fast because their calorie intake as vegans is both a little bit more fickle and different from that. They're carnivorous or milk eating counterparts. And Dan, a lot of vegans that are watching the show and listen to it have a relationship with fasting. You yourself have talked about what the doctor, Longo and Autophagy, those things, you know, kind of have been heated conversations even in the Vegan community with cellular repair and things like that. How do you personally stand about vegans fasting from, oh, mad one meal a day, too intermittent or longer? Fast. [00:42:26] On average, a well constructed plan diet has fewer calories in a day than a general American or meat based diet. It's, you know. The food is nutrition dense, but not very calorie dense. If you're eating big salads and beans and peas and grains, you will change up a little bit of use, too much extra virgin olive oil because of the density of calories. And you can bring it up. So we are some people talk about we are like leaning towards fasting naturally day after day after day, because even if it's two or three hundred calories a day, less than our compatriots are eating meat day after day after day, that is less of a metabolic stress on the body. But there is a magic to going a period of time and it may take three or four or even five days of reduced or no calories. I don't do no calorie fasting. I don't do water fasting. I could I'm healthy enough to some people are not healthy enough. Too frail to diabetic to nutritionally imbalanced for heart failure. Some people should. So Dr. Longo created this five day, 800 calorie day plant meal based program called the Fasting Mimicking Diet. That's a trademark name or prolon. That's a trademark. And I'm a big, big advocate because there's some magical responses when you deprive the body of glucose and protein for five days. And this program is a very low glucose, very low protein, high fat, high complex carbohydrate program. With all the food provided, you can you can inhibit some pathways that cause damage and aging. You can activate some pathways that cause rejuvenation, regeneration. You can stimulate stem cells. It's all very high level science. And you will see in 2020 that this particular program, fasting, mimicking diet, combined with cancer, chemotherapy, combined with other programs, is revolutionary, revolutionary, revolutionizing the way we're using nutrition as an adjunct to treating serious disease. But it's a perfectly great choice for somebody just wants to enhance their health. So, you know, there has not been a study. You've got a perfect plant based diet. Will adding on fasting give you some even further health advantage? But there are some people, as I mentioned, they're struggling, they're eating all food based diet, but their weight still isn't at target. Their blood pressure still isn't at Target. Doing fasting with that whole food plant based diet may be the key to turn on metabolism the way they want and get the results they want. Interesting. [00:44:59] Yeah. And finally, we had just a general inquiry as to what your personal thoughts were. And there's been a lot of people a little bit more shocked than not regarding how little their personal doctors or cardiologists and specifically know about nutrition. And I'm wondering if you can speak to your own personal testament as to whether or not you feel like the majority of your colleagues are educated in the science of nutrition and particularly latter day nutrition. [00:45:30] You know, the answer is generally no. There are some that are just completely resistant to the topic and you're not going to get them away from their steak and potato diet. There are some of the younger ones that just can't help but notice the game changers movie they heard about or Tennessee Titans football team or Serena Williams. I mean, it's just too much in the public culture. So they're aware and they may have done some readings from research. There's a growing number of plant based doctors and plant based cardiologists that as many as there should be. But it's growing. But it is frustrating. And again, when you walk into a hospital and there's a Wendy's or you walk in the doctor's dining room and there's fried chicken on a regular basis, you know that there's mixed messages and inconsistent education, that the board exams to become a doctor rarely have any nutrition questions. So that means the curriculum is not going to have much nutrition because one of the goals are going to training is to pass the darn test. And why spend too much time on a topic that's not been tested for? So there's a movement to get more nutrition questions on these board exams, forcing the curriculum to be more nutrition based. I think everybody listening should buy a copy of the plant based solution and gift it to their doctor and we can start a revolution. You know that it's going to take things like that. I mean, I've had the pleasure of giving grand rounds at cardiology departments on nutrition as recently as last week by Xoom and other ways. And it's frankly now 10 percent of the audience has any clue what I'm talking about. And the rest of them are just blown away that there's data about this. But are they blown away and they're going to make changes or are they blown away and they're on to the next topic? I'm only hopeful that it's altering some of their opinion about spend four minutes of your 20 minutes talking to people about nutrition or just tell them to watch forks overnight. I mean, that's what I did for years. I had 15 minutes. One minute was prescription pad. Please watch this movie. I usually actually had at that time DVD they could take home. Now it's just online. So one little statement to a patient can change your life forever. [00:47:41] Is there any index to find or locate cardiologists who are open to or entertaining Vegan or vegetarian diets? [00:47:50] A cardiologist, not exclusively. There is a website article on it called Plant Based Doctors Dot Org. And if you type in your zip code and twenty five mile radius, you know, it might be a therapist, it might be a nurse practitioner and it might be a general internist or cardiologist. But at least from the meetings I go to, there's a few dozen cardiologists, maybe, maybe there's one hundred, but that's out of thousands in the United States. [00:48:18] That's terrifying. Well, I want to say thank you so much, Dr. Khan. We're out of time. I do appreciate you indulging me in our questions and unpacking your books. I really appreciate everything and all of your candor today. [00:48:32] Well, I always appreciate the opportunity. I'm very passionate about talking about what we talked about as one, two, three, four, five people that are listening and maybe 10 times. And many are going to you'll find out something. And even if it's just that blood test lipoprotein little. Hey, but, you know, if you're eating plant based, you are making a quality decision. Don't give up. And if you're having a struggle with it, reach out to somebody in your community or, you know, my clinic does cancels. Let me help you figure out why I click in for you. [00:49:00] Wonderful. Thank you for everyone listening. We've been speaking with Dr. Joel Klein. You can discover more about him, all of his research on W WW, Dr. Jill Concow. You can also purchase all of the books mentioned here on Amazon until we speak again next time. [00:49:17] Remember to eat clean, eat responsibly, stay in love with the world and always bet on yourself. Slainte.  

Dr. Greger's site NutritionFacts.org IT'S HERE! Learntruehealth.com/homekitchen Use coupon code LTH for the listener discount! Check out IIN and get a free module: LearnTrueHealth.com/coaching   How Not To Die https://www.learntruehealth.com/how-not-to-die-dr-michael-greger   Highlights: Foods that we should be adding to our daily diet Benefits of whole food plant-based diet Diseases reversed by whole food plant-based diet What people in Blue Zones share in common   What is the best diet that provides the best outcome for everybody? Dr. Michael Greger, author of books How Not to Die, How Not to Diet, and How to Survive a Pandemic, shares with us the best diet for everybody. He also talks about some of the foods we should eat on a daily basis and what lifestyle changes we need to do. Intro: Hello, true health seeker and welcome to another exciting episode of the Learn True Health podcast. I’m so excited for you to listen to today’s interview with Dr. Greger. He only does half-an-hour interviews so I had to be very on point with my questions, to get as much information out of him as possible. One big message that he brings is how you can heal your body and prevent disease with food. If you have a disease, you can actually reverse it with nutrition. If you’d like to learn how to cook in a way that heals the body that is in alignment with how Dr. Greger teaches, please join the Learn True Health Home Kitchen. I designed a membership where I teach with my friend Naomi how to cook food that is delicious, that’s healing for the body, and that your whole family will love. Come join the membership and check it out. You’ll also be supporting the Learn True Health podcast and helping me to continue to produce interviews like this when you join the Learn True Health Home Kitchen. Go to learn to your learntruehealth.com/homekitchen. That’s learntruehealth.com/homekitchen. Come check it out and just learn how to bring more nutrient-dense foods into your diet to heal your body and support your body’s ability to prevent and reverse disease. Excellent. Thank you so much for being a listener. Thank you so much for sharing this podcast with those you love. Enjoy today’s interview.   [00:01:32] Ashley James: Welcome to the Learn True Health podcast. I’m your host, Ashley James. This is episode 433. I am very excited for today’s guest. Dr. Greger, you are quite an honored guest to have here today. My best friend and I are both whole food plant-based. She just wants you to know that if you ever become single she would leave her husband for you. You’ve got a lot of fans. You’ve got a lot of fans here. We’re big admirers of your work, your books—How Not to Die, How Not to Diet—and then you have the latest one, How to Survive a Pandemic. I can’t wait to talk about that. Your website nutritionfacts.org is fascinating. I highly recommend everyone go to it and use it. How do you do everything you do? You’re constantly pumping out books, articles, and videos. You must have a huge team to support you. You either that or you have a troubling meth problem. I don’t know. You’re just always producing amazing things. We’re really in awe of you.   [00:02:43] Dr. Michael Greger: That’s very sweet. I do indeed have this fantastic staff, not only 14 folks on staff in the non-profit Nutrition Facts, but we have about 200 active volunteers at any one time. We have this tremendous team of folks—all churning out wonderful life-changing, life-saving information. That’s what it’s all about.   [00:03:09] Ashley James: Absolutely. It’s quite controversial asking people to change their diet to reverse and prevent disease especially since the government puts out their recommendations. According to what they put out, that’s a disease-causing diet. There’s so much controversy. MDs are not trained in nutrition. You have to go above and beyond as an MD to learn how to heal with food. Can you tell us about what happened in your life that made you want to help people heal with food?   [00:03:41] Dr. Michael Greger: Sure. It was really all thanks to my grandmother. I was just a kid when the doctor sent my grandma home in the wheelchair to die. She was diagnosed with end-stage heart disease. She basically already had so many bypass operations. The surgeons basically run out of plumbing at some point, confined in the wheelchair, crushing chest pain, and her life was over at age 65. Pretty sure you’ve heard about this guy Nathan Pritikin, one of our early lifestyle medicine pioneers. What happened next is actually detailed in Pritikin’s biography. He talks about Frances Greger, my grandmother. They wheeled her in and she walked out. In fact, within a few weeks, she was walking 10 miles a day. Thanks to [inaudible 00:04:22] though she was given a medical death sentence at age 65, thanks to a healthy diet she went on to live another 31 years till age 96 to continue to enjoy her six grandkids including me. That’s why I went into medicine. That’s why I started nutritionfacts.org. That’s why I wrote the book How Not to Die and why 100% of the proceeds I get from all my books are donated to charity. I just want to do for everyone’s family what Pritikin did for my family.   [00:04:49] Ashley James: How do you make an income then if everything you do seems to fund amazing charities?   [00:04:54] Dr. Michael Greger: I’m on staff at nutritionfacts.org. I’m the Chief Science Officer. Those who make donations to the 501(c)(3) non-profit Nutrition Facts, they are helping me put kale on the table.   [00:05:14] Ashley James: I love it. Speaking of kale, you’ve mentioned kale as being one of your favorite superfoods, what other foods should we eat every day or at least every week and why?   [00:05:24] Dr. Michael Greger: That’s the second half of my book How Not to Die. The first half is just 15 chapters and each of the 15 leading causes of death talking about the role of diet. [Inaudible 00:05:32] preventing, resting, and reversing each of our top 15 killers, but I didn’t want it to just be a reference book. I wanted it to be a practical guide. I’m translating this mountain of data into day-to-day grocery store type decisions. To that end, the second half of the book centers around my recommendations wherein a daily dozen checklist of all the things that try to fit into my daily routine. For example, berries every day the healthiest types of fruits, greens every day the healthiest types of vegetables, 1 tablespoon of flaxseed, and ¼ teaspoon turmeric. The best beverages, best sweeteners, and how much exercise to get. Basically, just try to motivate people to include some of the healthiest of healthy foods into their daily diet.   [00:06:13] Ashley James: You discuss Blue Zones or at least we see that there’s so much information coming out of Blue Zones and there’s a controversy because some Blue Zones consume meat, there’s one that doesn’t. The one in Italy is all about olive oil. Apparently, olive oil is the cure and the best thing we could ever do. We don’t know what the driver is. We have to look at the similarities. Obviously, you pore through the science. You’re all about science-based nutrition. What is the commonality in all the Blue Zones that really make the difference that if we applied the same principles to our lifestyle and diet we would get the same result?   [00:06:51] Dr. Michael Greger: What they all share in common, again, Blue Zones are areas with the greatest long human longevity, the most centenarians per capita. For example, the people who live over 100 years old. What does every single one of them share in common? They eat a diet centered around whole plant foods and their primary source of protein is some form of legume: beans, split peas, chickpeas, or lentils. For example, the Okinawan Japanese, the second-longest living population in the world, it’s about a 97% plant-based diet. Actually, 70% of the calories of sweet potatoes, basically a vegetable centered diet. The only formally studied population that lives longer is the Seventh-day Adventist vegetarians in Loma Linda California. They live longer than anybody else, and they don’t eat any meat at all.   [00:07:45] Ashley James: I just heard a really troubling statistic. I was listening to a White House presentation this week about lowering the cost of insulin. I heard that one in three senior citizens are on insulin. That really disturbed me that the level of insulin use is that high. The level of type 2 diabetes continues to rise. Now there’s so much controversy because, in the mainstream sugar, carbs, and sweet potatoes would be the cause of insulin issues or needing insulin in diabetes, but you propose that a plant-centered diet would actually help to reverse diabetes. Can you explain why?   [00:08:26] Dr. Michael Greger: It’s not controversial in the medical literature. It’s just controversial in internet land where even the roundness of the earth is in question. But no, the science is very clear. Type-2 diabetes and pre-diabetes is caused by insulin resistance. Your body’s resistant to the effects of the insulin that your body produces. What’s that caused by? This is not controversial. If you look at the peer-reviewed medical literature, it’s caused by what is called an intramyocellular lipid. This is fat that’s stuck inside your muscle cells and inside the liver cells in the context of excess calories so it’s caused by fat. Now that can be fat in your mouth that’s going in your mouth, or it can be excess fat that’s on your body. Either way, we have high levels of free-floating fat in the bloodstream, which clogs up your muscle and liver cells, impairs their ability to respond to insulin, and you can end up with type 2 diabetes, which is the leading cause of adult-onset blindness, amputations, and kidney failure. It’s no good. Now, we have two pandemics colliding. A pandemic of obesity and diabetes colliding with an infectious disease pandemic. It’s important to realize that the underlying risk factors for COVID-19’s severity and death are obesity, high blood pressure, heart disease, and type 2 diabetes all of which can be controlled or even reversed with a healthy enough plant-based diet and lifestyle.   [00:09:59] Ashley James: What about this keto phenomenon? It used to be Atkins back in the day, right? Then it was paleo and now it’s keto. I think people like to think that they can reverse disease if they eat a bunch of meat and fat and avoid those really evil carbohydrates. People see really good results in the short-term with keto, but that’s increasing fat. According to what you just said, wouldn’t that increase insulin resistance and have poor outcomes in the long term?   [00:10:30] Dr. Michael Greger: Within the short-term, within days you increase insulin resistance with a ketogenic diet. In fact, the largest chapter in my book How Not to Diet I talk about the ketogenic diet. The data is very clear. People love hearing good news about their bad habits so any book that comes out and tells people to eat bacon and butter, obviously, are just going to sell better than those that come out and tell people to eat broccoli, but the science is very clear. In fact, switching to a ketogenic diet actually cuts the rate of fat loss in half after switching to a ketogenic diet because you’re actually cannibalizing your own protein, but you get the loss in water weight, which flushes out the ketones. Looking at the bathroom scale, the ketogenic diet seems like a smashing success, but what we care about is not a loss of water or protein. What we care about is the loss of body fat. Actually, body fat loss slows down. That’s why CrossFit trainees placed on a ketogenic diet, their leg muscles shrink as much as [80%] within 2 months. Exercise is supposed to make your muscles bigger, not smaller but that’s what happens when you’re on a ketogenic diet, not a good idea.   [00:11:56] Ashley James: Originally, the ketogenic diet was created to mimic fasting so that children with epilepsy could stay on it long term. What about fasting? There are so many health benefits to fasting being promoted out there. What are your thoughts on fasting and should we do it on a regular basis?   [00:12:12] Dr. Michael Greger: I talk about all types of fasting: alternate-day fasting, intermittent fasting, 55-2 fasting, 25-5 fasting, fasting-mimicking diet, and time-restricted feeding. Bottom line, there are benefits from early time-restricted feeding meaning narrowing your eating window 12 hours or less, but critically, that’s in the morning rather than the evening. If anything, you skip supper not breakfast. That has a variety of benefits both chrono biologically based on our circadian rhythms as well as metabolically. We talked about all the benefits. It’s really quite extraordinary. We should not be eating after sundown. I encourage people to fast after 7:00 PM and try to wait for their greatest caloric intake towards the beginning of the day.   [00:13:03] Ashley James: You have a book How to Survive a Pandemic, is it out already or are you still releasing it?   [00:13:09] Dr. Michael Greger: It is out as of Tuesday, May 26.   [00:13:13] Ashley James: Very cool. Tell us about How to Survive a Pandemic and why should we read it.   [00:13:18] Dr. Michael Greger: I try to cover everything there is to know to protect ourselves and our families from the coronavirus. Everything from optimal [inaudible 00:13:26] and hand hygiene, surface disinfection, masks, and how to make your own and hand sanitizer, but the best way to survive a pandemic is to prevent it in the first place. The bulk of the book actually centers around tracing the origins of the COVID coronavirus and what we can do to prevent even greater infectious disease threats in the future.   [00:13:45] Ashley James: Based on your research, because you love to look at the science and then decide what is the best route based on the results, you’re not choosing diet dogma. I think that doctors who like to share that a plant-based diet is healing for the body tend to get criticized because those who see that there’s look, there’s a study that says that this meat is healthier, this fish is healthier, this dairy is healthy, and then they like to discredit them. But you like to look at the science and the results and go and then share that and go listen, don’t listen to me listen to the results, listen to the science. But based on your research, is there a one diet fits all? If we put 100% of the population on one way of eating, would we be able to reverse all disease, or do there need to be certain tweaks? Let’s say, someone who’s a bodybuilder versus a 90-year-old grandmother versus someone with fatty liver disease, should they all be on slightly different diets based on their nutritional needs?   [00:14:46] Dr. Michael Greger: The good news is that we have a tremendous power of our health, destiny, and longevity. The vast majority of premature death and disability are preventable with a plant-based diet and other healthy lifestyle behaviors just like smoking is bad for everybody. It’s not some people that smoking is good for. Eating a healthy diet is good for everybody. There are things that are good for your body and bad for your body. Some people have allergies to a specific food. Are peanuts bad for you? If you have a peanut allergy, it could kill you, but otherwise no. The same kind of thing. The people that are lactose intolerant that would affect some people will have different caffeine metabolism rates, so coffee affects them a little differently. But it’s not like there are people out there where hotdogs are good for them or broccoli is bad for them.  If you go to truehealthinitiative.org, this is an initiative set forth by Yale’s Prevention Research Center which asks hundreds of the top nutrition scientists in the world to agree on a consensus statement as to what the healthiest diet is. Just like you want to know about climate change, you go to the IPCC. What do climate change scientists have to say, right? So the same thing. You can see that there’s a consensus as to the core tenants of healthy eating and living going back decades, and that is centering one’s diet around whole healthy plant foods.    [00:16:18] Ashley James: You have given many video talks and lessons on your website nutritionfacts.org, which one of all of them are you the most proud of?   [00:16:30] Dr. Michael Greger: Oh, wow. What a great question. Thousands of videos. If I can remember half of them that would be… Every time I put out a book I do a new talk, an hour-long presentation where I pick all the most akin of practical, groundbreaking, interesting bits together. Then it gives you this broad overview. Those are probably my favorite talks. I have one for How Not to Diet. I have one for How Not to Die. Those are probably the talks I’m most proud of. Though I yet have to have an hour-long presentation about How to Survive a Pandemic, but I do have about three hours’ worth of videos coming up—17 videos starting at the end of May running through July on nutritionfacts.org.   [00:17:36] Ashley James: We’ll look out for them for sure. As a doctor, as you’ve been taking your own initiative to study nutrition outside of school, because that’s what doctors have to do in order to really, really learn the truth, and as you’ve been helping people, what one story stands out for you? What healing story surprised you? Someone who actually healed their body that you were really surprised that they were able to heal using nutrition.   [00:18:05] Dr. Michael Greger: Those diseases for which we didn’t think that they were reversible. For example, we didn’t think heart disease was reversible until Pritikin came along and showed that was indeed the case. Diabetic retinopathy, diabetic blindness, we thought that was irreversible you go worse, worse, worse and you go blind. No, that can be reversed with a healthy diet. There are two case reports that just came out suggesting that, caught early enough, even type one diabetes may be able to help with a healthy diet. There was the first case report in enclosing spondylitis, this horrible autoimmune condition attacking the spine. Never had any data on that, but no, plant-based diet helps with that too. No surprise an anti-inflammatory diet helps an inflammatory condition. Those are the most exciting things, these kinds of reversal. We have new data on lupus, which is another autoimmune condition with beneficial effects not just for kidney function, which we had already known, but for other symptoms as well. Crohn’s disease, multiple sclerosis, these are just really exciting to see diseases for which there were no good options. Where the traditional approaches have such downsides in terms of adverse effects. That’s really the most exciting work out there.   [00:19:30] Ashley James: What question am I not asking that you would love to answer?   [00:19:34] Dr. Michael Greger: I don’t know. What’s nutrition facts? Nutrition facts is a free, non-profit, science-based public service providing daily updates in the latest nutritional research via bite-sized videos—more than 1000 videos. Nearly every aspect of healthy eating with new videos and articles uploaded every day—are the latest in evidence-based nutrition. What a concept—nutritionfacts.org.   [00:20:00] Ashley James: For those who are not used to the whole food plant-based diet but are intrigued, can you share what do you eat? What do you eat? What have you eaten in the last 24 hours? What do you eat? Maybe you could share a recipe, one of your favorite recipes that would get people excited about trying to eat more plants.   [00:20:22] Dr. Michael Greger: The daily dozen is what I eat. That’s the reason the Daily Dozen came around because I wanted to eat an evidence-based diet and so I’m just sharing that with everybody. In terms of what I eat in 24 hours, I had a big bowl of miso soup for lunch and some cherries. It’s cherry season and oh my god they’re delicious. Then this morning I had my prebiotic mix, which is a combination of oat groats, purple barley, rye berries, and Beluga lentils mixed with cocoa powder, dark sweet frozen cherries. It was kind of like choco berry cherry action with some nuts and seeds. That was delicious. What did I have last night? Last night I had these blue corn tortillas, which I toasted mixed with a fajita mix, which was onions, peppers, black beans, salsa, and some hummus to make it kind of creamy with some adobo sauce, and some smoked jalapeno peppers. It was nice and spicy. Threw a whole bunch of greens in there. A tortilla kind of action. In terms of what might be particularly motivating, I think it’s important to realize there’s only one diet ever proven to reverse heart disease in the majority of patients—it’s a plant-based diet. Anytime anyone tries to sell you on some new diet, do me a favor, just ask them a simple question. Wait a second, is this new diet improving to reverse heart disease, the number one reason me and all my loved ones will die? If the answer is no, why would you even consider it? If that’s all a plant-based diet could do—reverse the number one killer of men and women. Isn’t that going to be the default diet to be proven otherwise? In fact, that can also be so effective in preventing resting reversing other leading killers like high blood pressure and type 2 diabetes. It would seem to make the case for plant-based eating simply overwhelming.   [00:22:46] Ashley James: I love that you mentioned your app, Dr. Greger’s Daily Dozen. I have that on my phone. I think it’s a really cool app and I definitely recommend it. I’ve had Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn on the show. I just love, love that he so clearly says here’s the way to eat to reverse heart disease—being a cardiologist still practicing. I think he’s 86. I’m sure you guys are friends. But what’s really frustrating is I’ve had other cardiologists on the show who say we should drink a liter of olive oil a week, that it’s the most healthy thing we could possibly do for our heart. I’m really frustrated because when I learned the damages that oil can have on the body, can you just talk about is oil healthy, is it not healthy? How do we get healthy fats? Could we become fat-deprived by not eating fat? Can you just demystify fat and oil for us?   [00:23:37] Dr. Michael Greger: Oil is kind of the white sugar of the fat kingdom. You take something like a sugar beet, which is really healthy. You remove all the nutrition and you’re left with just sugar, so it’s empty calories. Same thing. You take a walnut, remove all the nutrition, you’re left with walnut oil, and it’s just empty calories. There are a few fat-soluble nutrients like vitamin E, but basically, just throw a lot of fiber, throw out the minerals, and throw out the rest of the nutrition. It’s like why would you do that? If you want to eat olive oil, fine, eat an olive. The problem is, there’s too much sodium in it, so eat an avocado, eat nuts and seeds, or eat whole food sources. How are we going to get carbohydrates? Whole plant food sources. How are we going to get proteins? Whole food plant source. How are we going to get fat? Whole food plant sources. Are these the healthiest? Not only because the stuff that doesn’t have cholesterol, saturated fat, and hormones—all that blah, blah, blah, blah. There are all the beneficial things that you want like antioxidants, fiber, and vital nutrients. There are some essential fats: omega 3s, omega 6s, but that’s one of the reasons I recommend people to eat a tablespoon of ground flax seeds today to get their alpha-lipoic acid and omega-3 fatty acid, which is important for protecting against cardiovascular disease.   [00:24:51] Ashley James: My dad died of obesity and heart disease, but he survived my mother who was seemingly healthier—died of cancer at age 55. That was the shocker in our family. She died very quickly of liver cancer because she was very healthy on the outside. We want to obviously probably prevent heart disease—being the number one killer. We obviously want to prevent infection. That’s the big focus right now. Many people are turning to comfort foods and alcohol to just get through this crazy time, which in turn is actually hurting them more. Cancer is one of those big things that looms over us, at least over me. Something even scarier than heart disease. What can we do to reverse cancer? If someone has cancer, what evidence-based nutrition should they do to reverse cancer?   [00:25:47] Dr. Michael Greger: After Dr. Dean Ornish conquered our number one killer, heart disease, he moved on to killer number two, cancer. Took a group of men with early-stage prostate cancer, put them on the same kind of diet that reversed heart disease. For the first time ever showed that diet and lifestyle intervention could reverse the progression of cancer as measured by PSA levels, which is a proxy for tumor volume. In the control group that was told to just eat whatever your doctor was telling you, the tumors continued to grow. Whereas in the group that was randomized to a plant-based diet and lifestyle program, the tumor shrank on average— first men ever shown. The nice thing about diet is regardless of what other choices you make in terms of whether you are doing radiotherapy or chemotherapy, you can always eat healthier.   [00:26:37] Ashley James: Very interesting. Should we limit the amount of nuts and seeds like the plant-based fats or could someone go eat as many peanuts, for example, as they want to? Even though it’s plant-based, is there a ratio of carbs to fat to protein that is optimal?   [00:26:56] Dr. Michael Greger: The most important thing is a source, not the quantity. As long as you’re getting your macronutrients from whole plant sources, that’s the most important thing. I mean the only way you could overeat nuts is if that’s all you ate. Obviously, that wouldn’t be a good thing. But I encourage people to eat an ounce of it a day. It’s like a palm-full of nuts. A critically important one of the few foods along with dark and leafy from vegetables associated with literally years of an extended lifespan.   [00:27:28] Ashley James: Peanuts are not nuts, they’re legumes, right?   [00:27:31] Dr. Michael Greger: That’s true but they’re nutritionally similar enough that they actually have the same type benefits. The downside is that when we expose nuts and seeds to high dry heat, it produces these advanced glycation end-products. When you expose high protein fat foods to high heats, you get these AGEs, which we want to minimize. That’s why I encourage people to eat their nuts and seeds raw, but you can’t really find raw peanut butter, for example. But you can find raw almond butter, so that would be a better choice.   [00:28:00] Ashley James: You can make your own if you have a Vitamix or something.   [00:28:03] Dr. Michael Greger: You can make your own, exactly.   [00:28:05] Ashley James: That was my question was the high heat or the roasted nuts. We just need to basically eat the raw ones to preserve healthy fats. My last question, because I know you have to go, autoimmune disease is on the rise. Some autoimmune conditions are exacerbated by nightshades and some grains. What do we do to help people with autoimmune disease to recover?   [00:28:28] Dr. Michael Greger: You put them on a whole food plant-based diet. The most powerful intervention that’s ever been published in the peer-reviewed medical literature for multiple sclerosis and autoimmune disease where you take your own nerves. The most powerful intervention for Crohn’s disease, an autoimmune inflammatory bowel disease. We now have data for benefits for ulcerative colitis, lupus ankylosing spondylitis, rheumatoid arthritis. You name the autoimmune condition and the odds are, we have data supporting an anti-inflammatory diet, which is essentially synonymous with a plant-based diet. It’s true, there’s an autoimmune disease known as the celiac disease for which gluten can be an inflammatory trigger. For those rare 1 in 140 or so people, need to stay away from gluten-containing grains like wheat, barley, and rye, but those are healthy foods for the vast majority of people. People with joint pain, about 1 in 20, feel better after cutting nightshades out. So hey, might as well worth a try, but if it doesn’t help your joint pain, I would put those super healthy foods back into one’s diet.   [00:29:51] Ashley James: Awesome. Thank you so much, Dr. Greger, for coming on the show today. It has been such a pleasure to have you here. Leave us with some homework. Leave us with some actionable steps we can take today to improve our health.   [00:30:01] Dr. Michael Greger: Oh my God. You should go to your local public library get How Not to Die, How Not to Diet, and How to Survive a Pandemic.   [00:30:10] Ashley James: And go to nutritionfacts.org and pour through your thousands of videos.   [00:30:14] Dr. Michael Greger: Do it.   [00:30:16] Ashley James: Thank you so much. It has been such a pleasure having on the show today. You’re welcome back anytime.   [00:30:21] Dr. Michael Greger: Keep up the good work.   [00:30:25] Ashley James: I hope you enjoyed today’s interview with Dr. Li. Please share it with those you care about. Let’s get this information out to help as many people as possible to learn true health. Come join the Facebook group. Search Learn True Health on Facebook or go to learntruehealth.com/group and join the Facebook group. It’s a wonderfully supportive community. We’re all in this together to learn what we can do to tweak our diet, our lifestyle, supplements whatever we can do to just switch it over to build the body into a place that develops health instead of disease. We can heal the body. The body has an amazing ability to heal itself. Even if you’ve been told you’re going to have this for the rest of your life, I have met so many people, myself included, who have reversed diseases and illnesses that they were told by doctors they’d always have for the rest of their life. So don’t give up hope. Instead, dive in, listen to more episodes of the Learn True Health podcast, and come join the Facebook group. There is hope. As long as you’re living and breathing, as long as you have a pulse, your body can heal itself. You can do many things to support your body’s ability to heal itself. I’m so happy that you’re here to learn how you can optimize your health through every meal, through every breath. There are so many things you can do mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually, and energetically. That’s exactly what this podcast is here to help you with. So please, dive in, keep listening, and make sure that you share this episode and share the podcast with those you love so we can help as many people as possible, and come join the Facebook group so that you can keep learning and keep asking questions and keep growing. Thank you so much for being a listener. Thank you so much for sharing. Have yourself a fantastic rest of your day.   Get Connected with Dr. Michael Greger! Website Facebook Instagram Twitter Books by Dr. Michael Greger How Not To Die The How Not To Die Cookbook How To Survive A Pandemic How Not To Diet

Nathan Pritikin was a college dropout who became an entrepreneur. While doing research for the government during World War II, he observed that populations that had extremely limited food availability because of the war had substantially reduced mortality from cardiovascular disease—something unexpected at a time when cardiovascular disease was thought to be due to stress. After the war when food became more available CVD death rates went back up, resulting in Pritikin concluding that CVD was related to diet. Pritikin devised his own very low-fat diet that bears his name and the diet is still in use 65 years later. Related: The Pritikin Diet The Lost Lectures from Nathan Pritikin (drmcdougall.com)

This podcast explains the Pritikin diet to patients. Nathan Pritikin was a college dropout who became an entrepreneur. While doing research for the government during World War II, he observed that populations that had extremely limited food availability because of the war had substantially reduced mortality from cardiovascular disease—something unexpected at a time when cardiovascular disease was thought to be due to stress. After the war when food became more available CVD death rates went back up, resulting in Pritikin concluding that CVD was related to diet. Pritikin devised his own very low-fat diet that bears his name and the diet is still in use 65 years later. Related: The Pritikin Diet The Lost Lectures from Nathan Pritikin (drmcdougall.com)

Michael A. Klaper, M.D., is an American physician, author, and vegan. Dr. Klaper worked with Dr. Nick Delgado in Torrance California when the Delgado Medical offered plant-based oil-free whole foods eating based on Nathan Pritikin's research. Find out more at http://Delgadoprotocol.com https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/health-podcast/id1353639148?mt=2 Follow Dr. Nick on https://www.facebook.com/DelgadoProtocol https://twitter.com/DelgadoProtocol https://www.instagram.com/dr.nickdelgado https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickdelgado subscribe to https://www.youtube.com/user/DelgadoVideo This channel is to educate people all around the world about the power of nutrition, fitness, hormones and the power of the mind. These 4 tools are essential to staying healthy and fit. See our newest courses Fat Loss and Fitness, Acne Boot-camp, Neuro-Programming, and cellular microscopy and soon Hormonal balance at https://delgadoprotocol.com/lp-courses/ Michael Klaper Vegan Diet and Nick Delgado Interview | Truths and Myths about the Vegan Diet

Dr Michael Greger is featured on this episode of the New Normal Project. Yes, the good doctor from NutritionFacts.org, the book How Not To Die and his latest book How Not to Diet, which was released today. When I was at medical school we learnt all about diseases, syndromes, drugs and procedures. There was very little education about nutrition. I don’t remember being told the sickest patients in our hospital mostly have the conditions which are heavily influenced by the lifestyles they lead. Conditions like heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, hypercholesterolaemia, obesity and cancer. And noone ever mentioned these could be treatable or at least halted in their progression using simple lifestyle interventions. So when I came across a doctor like Dr Michael Greger who, after witnessing his grandmother’s health transformation through nutrition, decided to read every research study on nutrition in the English language and made it his life mission to help people with clear and understandable messages about the health benefits of nutrition, I became pretty interested in his work. Michael is a physician, bestselling author, and internationally recognised speaker on nutrition, food safety, and public health issues. A founding member and Fellow of the American College of Lifestyle Medicine, he is licensed as a general practitioner specialising in clinical nutrition. He is a graduate of the Cornell University School of Agriculture and the Tufts University School of Medicine. He has lectured at the Conference on World Affairs, the National Institutes of Health; has appeared on shows such as The Colbert Report and The Dr. Oz Show; and was invited as an expert witness in defense of Oprah Winfrey at the infamous "meat defamation" trial. In 2017 he was honoured with the ACLM Lifestyle Medicine Trailblazer Award and became a diplomat of the American Board of Lifestyle Medicine. Both his previous books, How Not to Die and the The How Not to Die Cookbook, became instant New York Times Best Sellers. His other great resource is the website NutritionFacts.org, a strictly non-commercial, science-based public service, provided by Michael, providing free updates on the latest in nutrition research via bite-sized videos. Dr Greger and I met up at the International Plant-Based Nutrition Healthcare conference in Oakland this recent September. Our conversation covered: His grandmother’s transformation from end-stage heart disease with a plant-based diet Nathan Pritikin and how he discovered and used plant-based eating Why Michael didn’t adopt a plant-based diet until Dean Ornish’s Lifestyle Heart Trial The tremendous nutritional ignorance of the medical profession How NutritionFacts.org began and developed The assistance he received from a philanthropist to turn a DVD series into a website The rigorous work of synthesising the evidence for a NutritionFacts video Some of the resources people should consider when starting a plant-based diet Why both anecdote and the evidence are important for dietary change The healthy and less healthy ways that people can lose weight What is in his new book How Not To Diet The title and subject of the book that will follow How Michael evolves his diet over time Enjoy the knowledgeable, charismatic, and mission-focused Dr Michael Greger.   Live well, feel well, do well.   Andrew Davies   --------------------   About the New Normal Project podcast: The podcast is aimed to help you to become more healthy, fulfilled and conscious through a plant-based, body-moving and mind-focused way of living. I hope to inspire and empower you with scientific evidence, helpful information and real-life stories, based on eating mostly plant foods, being physically active, particularly in nature, sleeping well, being mindful and refining both the connections in your life and your purpose.   ------------------------------------   Links related to Michael Greger Dr Michael Greger Dr Michael Greger on Wikipedia NutritionFacts.org Dr Michael Greger on Instagram (@nutrition_facts_org) Dr Michel Greger on Twitter Dr Michael Greger on Facebook Book “How Not to Die” (by Michael Greger) Book “The How Not to Die Cookbook” (by Michael Greger) Book “How Not to Diet” (by Michael Greger) Dr Michael Greger’s Evidence-Based Eating Guide Dr Michael Greger’s Medical Nutrition Blog Dr Michael Greger’s Daily Dozen List Dr Michael Greger’s Dining by Traffic Light System Podcast "Nutrition Facts with Dr Michael Greger" NutritionFacts on YouTube   Links to people and resources (in order of mentioning) American College of Lifestyle Medicine International Plant-based Nutrition Healthcare Conference Nathan Pritikin Book “Pritikin: The Man Who Healed America's Heart” (by Tom Monte) Dr Dean Ornish Publication 1 from Dr Ornish’s Lifestyle Heart Trial Publication 2 from Dr Ornish’s Lifestyle Heart Trial Introductory videos on Nutrition Facts Movie “The Game Changers” Movie “Forks Over Knives” Book “The China Study” (by T. Colin Campbell and Thomas Campbell) The BROAD study US News and World Report on Best Diets Doctors For Nutrition New Normal Project podcast - Episode 60 with Gemma Newman Dr Gemma Newman New Normal Project podcast - Episode 61 with Jackie Busse Dr Jackie Busse   Links related to New Normal Project podcast New Normal Project podcast New Normal Project website New Normal Project on Facebook New Normal Project on Instagram: @newnormalproject New Normal Project on Twitter: @newnormalproj Email Andrew Davies Andrew Davies on Instagram: @andrewdavies66 Andrew Davies on Twitter: @andrewdavies66 Andrew Davies on Facebook Subscribe to the New Normal Project newsletter Audio Producer Chris Burke Burke Sound & Media

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Dr. Joel Kahn: www.drjoelkahn.com Author 5 books all in the shop at my website Clinic www.kahnlongevitycenter.com   Sauna Therapy and Heart Health with Dr. Joel Kahn https://www.learntruehealth.com/dr-joel-kahn Highlights: Benefits of sauna therapy Benefits of Magnesium soak Benefits of ENERGYbits and RECOVERYbits Plant-based vegan diet is good for heart health Diet and fitness of mind and body are important The science of light therapy for healing Benefits of Infrared sauna Waon therapy of Japan Importance of light for our health Benefits of near infrared sauna Benefits of red light Photobiomodulation Sunlighten lumiNIR Saunas and weight loss Kahn’s three tips: meditation, organic chlorella, HIIT workout Congenital heart conditions in children and adults People should be concerned about their arteries ARVC heart condition Organ meats and processed fat to heal autoimmune diseases Books and doctors that Dr. Kahn follows Kahn’s homework for listeners   In this episode Dr. Joel Khan will share with us his three tips to a good cardiovascular health, the importance of light to our health. Ashley and Dr. Khan will also discuss the science of light therapy for healing and how important diet and fitness for our body is. [0:00] Intro: Hello, true health seeker. Welcome to another exciting episode of Learn True Health podcast. You’re going to love today’s interview with cardiologist, Dr. Joel Khan. He’s a very unique cardiologist. He’s been a plant-based vegan for over 42 years. And he has this unique perspective on the body. He believes the body has an amazing ability to heal itself. And we just need to support it with the right diet, nutrients, lifestyle. And that we can support the body’s ability to heal and prevent disease. And isn’t that wonderful? Don’t you want a doctor that believes that you can be healthy? He shares a lot of great information today. We talked a lot about using heat therapy and the different spectrums of light to help the body heal. And he says so much in such a short period of time. There’s so many details. He opened up so many rabbit holes that I know listeners are going to think to themselves, “Man, I need to get a pen. I got to write that down.” And I want to let you know that we actually transcribe our interviews. We’ve been doing that for the last few months. We hired two wonderful transcriptionists. And we have been transcribing all of the interviews. So a big shout out, thank you to the transcriptionists, who helped us to transcribe. Because our listeners really love going to learntruehealth.com. And then you can click on the episode. And I know that everyone’s been loving being able to have access to all the transcripts. So that when a guest shares so much wonderful information, like telling us about what books we should read, and what supplements we should try, or what lifestyle habits, tips and tricks we should try, we want all the details. And instead of having to listen to the episode two or three times, you can go the transcript and find exactly what the doctor said, which is really exciting. So that is my gift to you, the listener, so that you can make sure that you take all this information and help to transform your life and the health of your whole family and everyone you love. So make sure that you take advantage of our transcripts by going to www.learntruehealth. com. Now, in this episode we mention three things. So I want to make sure that I cover it in the intro. A lot of the discussion is about sauna therapy, specifically using sunlight. And Sunlighten is the only company I have found and I have looked that is ultra low EMF that is non-toxic. And it uses the full spectrum near, mid, and far infrared. So they’re absolutely wonderful. I highly recommend calling Sunlighten and in talking to them about their different systems. They have what’s called the Solo System, which is portable. So you don’t need – if you don’t have a lot of space and you can just tuck it away under the bed or tuck it away in the closet when you’re not using it. That’s a really great solution for those who don’t want the bigger sauna. Which I have the big one, the wooden one, and I love it. Basically, two people can fit in it. It’s kind of like having a TARDIS, for those who know Doctor Who. It does not look very big but two people can fit in it which is really cool. And it has the full spectrum of near, mid, and far infrared. And we’ll get a little bit into that in the show today. The benefits of those different spectrums.  If you want to learn more specifically about Sunlighten, I did two interviews. One with the cofounder and one with their manager, Alicia. So Connie Zack being the founder. You can go to learntruehealth.com and you can search in the search bar for Sunlighten or for sauna and find those episodes. And enjoy learning more about why I specifically love Sunlighten as a company when it comes to doing sauna therapy versus all the other companies out there. I’m really sold. I’ve really enjoyed my sauna. And I’ve gotten a lot of great health benefits. It’s helped me with my detox tremendously. It’s helped me with my liver. I had liver problems and it really helped me with that, It helped me with my weight loss. So I feel it is high quality and very effective. So that’s Sunlighten. Give them a call. They give our listeners a great deal. They give us free shipping. And they also throw in something else that’s really cool. And the special kind of keeps changing just depending on what’s going on in the office there. But they always give the listeners a really great discount or really great special. So make sure that you mention Learn True Health with Ashley James so that you get our listener special. Now, we mentioned two other things. One is the magnesium soak. You have heard me rave about it over and over again. And I love soaking in magnesium while in my sauna. You only need a few cups of water in, like, a foot basin. And it is so wonderful. It opens up all the circulation. It really aids in the detoxification and feeding your liver all those wonderful nutrients it needs to help you with detoxification. So it’s a great one-two punch. And then the third thing, are the ENERGYbits. Actually, specifically, the RECOVERYbits, which is chlorella. Chlorella is an algae that chelates heavy metals. And so it’s wonderful to eat before you get in the sauna because it aids in binding to the heavy metals and releasing them from our body. It also helps with melatonin production so that it actually aids in deeper sleep. And I’ve done about five interviews I think on the ENERGYbits. So you can type algae into the search function in learntruehealth.com to be able to listen to those episodes where we talk about spirulina and chlorella and all their health benefits. And it’s just wonderful. You can go to energybits.com and use coupon code LTH to get 20% off. And make sure that you grab a bag of the ENERGYbits for your daytime energy. They’re wonderful. They’re spirulina. They actually taste really good compared to all the other spirulinas out there. They don’t have any of the lead or heavy metals that other companies have been known to have. Because ENERGYbits does very rigorous testing. And they have a pure water source when they grow their algae. So lots of great information that you can learn by going to learntruehealth.com and typing in algae and listening to those episodes. But just try it and see how you feel. Buy a bag of Energybits, buy a bag of RECOVERYbits. And RECOVERYbits is for the detoxification. ENERGYbits is for energy. And they don’t have any caffeine. It’s just all algae. But it delivers to the body all the nutrients that it needs to make energy and support hormone health. And I could go on and on. So you can check out those interviews. But those are the three things that we had mentioned in the episode. And I want to let you know that all three of those things you can get a listener discount for. So to get the magnesium soak, you go to livingthegoodlifenaturally.com and type in the coupon code LTH at checkout. ENERGYbits is energybits.com and type in the coupon code LTH at checkout. And then for your listener discount for Sunlighten, call them up, talk to one of their wonderful salespeople, and mention Learn True Health with Ashley James for the listener discount. And if you have any questions about any of these because I use them all the time and my whole family actually. We soak in magnesium. We eat the ENERGYbits and the RECOVERYbits. And we sweat in our sauna – in our Sunlighten Sauna. And so if you guys have any questions for me and my experience, please email me, support@learntruehealth.com. I’d love to hear from you. Excellent. Enjoy today’s episode and have yourself a wonderful rest of your day.     [8:04] Ashley James: Welcome to the Learn true health podcast. I’m your host, Ashley James. This is Episode 383. I am so excited for today’s interview. We have with us Dr. Joel Kahn. He’s an amazing cardiologist. But even more than cardiology. Because I’ve dived into your interviews and some videos, you’re kind of going up against Joe Rogan in a very polite interview. I was waiting for the gloves to come off. It’s very interesting to be a plant-based cardiologist and help people to reverse disease naturally with natural medicine, with food because we can heal the body with food. And that you are surprisingly an expert in so many of these fields. Some of my listeners – so I told them I was interviewing you – said, “I love him. I love his podcasts.” And so I started listening to your podcasts. And it’s amazing just how much you read and how much you share with the listener. So I definitely recommend listeners check out Dr. Joel Kahn’s podcasts. It’s such a pleasure to have you here today.     [9:02] Dr. Joel Kahn: Well, thank you. It’s really a nice and sincere. A little different than the standard credential introduction. And that’s pretty cool. Yeah, I call it a p-cast. A little bit different than yours. I would never have stayed doing podcasts for two-and-a-half years if I was taking long periods to interview people. So I just talk for 20 minutes. I teach on some subject. I call it a p-cast. It’s like a P in the pod, as you know from listening. But anyways, enough about that. But I do. At age 60, I have this insane hunger to learn and learn what isn’t whoo as opposed to science. And that can be really tough sometime. If we can acknowledge that there’s whoo whoo advice out there all over the place.     [9:45] Ashley James: I like that you brought up your age because if listeners go and check out and saw your videos, they’re going to look at a young man who looks about 40, who is incredibly handsome, has tons of energy, and looks like he could win a boxing match against anyone. Like, you just look so good. And then when you said you’re 60, I’m like, “I really don’t believe it.” So that’s the power of the whole food plant-based diet is we actually become more energetic and look younger and have less disease.     [10:16] Dr. Joel Kahn: Number one, you know, you’re just smothering me with kindness. I just told you before we went on, I’m going to be out in Seattle for a high level medical conference in a few weeks. Now we’re going to have to find a wonderful plant restaurant and go celebrate with your husband and all that. But I actually adopted a plant diet at age 18. It wasn’t a master plan. It was in the time that we had Veggie Grill and Beyond Meat and all the movement that’s going on now, good and bad. It was a college reaction to horrible food and a good salad bar. But that was the last burger chicken piece of turkey I ate was 1977. So you know, every inch of augury and other crucial parts of my body have been bathe in broccoli and cauliflower and rubella for a very long time. And I’m grateful that that was kind of a cork and kind of a twist of fate that in a cardiology career couldn’t have been a better plan if I have had the insight. But it was an insight. It was just a quick little college dorm survival play that I just never went back.     [11:20] Ashley James: And a friend in college who went raw vegan because he didn’t have a fridge. So he just bought a bunch of fruit, like apples and basically lived on it. And it turned out he became – it made him incredibly healthy. That was like, “Whoa. That’s a really interesting survival mechanism.” At what point in your career as a cardiologist did you realize that how you’re eating was the optimal diet for heart health?     [11:44] Dr. Joel Kahn: Yeah, it didn’t take long. I actually got into a quick little program at the University of Michigan [inaudible 00:11:49]. I actually was accepted to med school at 17 or 18. And began some medical courses that early. And I was eating plants. I didn’t talk much about it because there wasn’t really a platform. And I didn’t know it was a therapy. If I had dug a little deeper, but I had no Sherpa to guide me, I could have found Nathan Pritikin in the 60s and 70s. I could have found even a couple older pioneers that I now know and study and respect. But really, I started practicing cardiology. I was like this animal in the cath lab. You’re having a heart attack, you’re having chest pain, I have your balloon, I have your aggressive therapy seven days a week. And three weeks after that, Dr. Dean Ornish, one of the most eminent and deserving of appreciation lifestyle medicine doctors, published a paper. And I mean, I’m three weeks. And this guy that the answer to heart disease is, you know, procedures and balloons. And he puts out data that says you can actually halt and reverse heart disease with a lifestyle that was centered on whole food plant-based.  And added two things I love, fitness and mind body, and yoga, socialization. And I said, “Wow.” So I’ve literally taught thousands of patients every month of my career since I begun. And it’s all serendipity. I’m just very fortunate. And I am proud to say I kind of grew up in this movement. But it wasn’t exactly proofed inside. I didn’t have a psychic tell me to do this things. It just played out well. I could have, you know, read a paper about bacon and I would have been just messed up for the rest of my career. But I invested well in the plant-based movement in terms of energy and personal health.     [13:32] Ashley James: Well, and it shows. You’re now – is it 42 or 43 years that you’ve now been vegan? And I mean, I am blown away. But there’s the evidence for you. If we eat a whole food plant-based diet, the way down the road we’re going to look younger and feel younger. And there’s so much science now showing that it prevents and reverses disease. So you love diving into all these different topics. And we have some questions from the listeners that we’ll get to in a little bit. But I wanted to dive into this topic of saunas and infrared and red light. Because Sunlighten Sauna – actually Alicia at Sunlighten is the one that hooked us up for this interview. And she said that you are an amazing expert at understanding the science. And I’ve been raving about my experience with my Sunlighten. It has really helped me in my health journey. And also using light therapy like red light therapy. But I don’t understand the science. And so I’d love for you to teach us a bit about it. What made you want to dive into learning about sauna therapy and using these kind of light therapies for healing?       [14:36] Dr. Joel Kahn: I took my nutritional knowledge and had my standard cardiology career and did that for a long time. Always offering these patients more than just prescriptions. But about ten years ago, I found a program at a university that you could call Integrative Cardiology. Like some people go back and get an MBA in the weekends at Harvard or whatever. I found the equivalent but it was in my field. But the integrated science based use of food and supplements and stress. And one of the topics was a presentation – several hours – on the science. And I stress, everything I do as odd as it is sometimes, is stimulated when I find that there’s actually science. It’s credible in hopefully multiple studies. So about 30 plus years ago, and I can’t tell you who was the first that had the spark, but in Japan they started applying infrared saunas. So you’ve got your steam sauna at 180 degrees. A lot of health clubs. Some people have that adapter in their shower and they can make it all steamy. You’ve got kind of the dry Tucson, Arizona sauna with a little box in the corner. Some people have that at home. And then infrared, it’s a little different. It looks like the wood box of an Arizona sauna. But in the walls are very special panels, infrared emitting panels. We have our – it doesn’t need to be real science-y. I mean, everybody’s sitting in a room right now that probably has a light bulb that’s emitting a spectrum of light. Some are purple, some are greens, some are red, some are blue, yellow wavelengths that make it look white in that combination. But it turns out that there is a slice of light energy called infrared. And we can’t see it. It’s not a visible light. And these researchers in Japan built infrared saunas. Boxes that have these panels and emit infrared energy. And they would take various – first they did animal studies, which is ultra cool. And the animal study showed a beneficial response to blood vessel function, muscle function, the real basic chemistry. It turns out, we actually have receptors in ourselves. You know, you think we really are more like plants and we think we are like plants. There actually is a very cool science that actually says we’re not so different than the birch tree and the oak tree you might be seeing out a window, perhaps. But anyways, we have receptors in these basic models. And then they started studying sick heart patients in Japan. And these were in academic centers and they published data. You have high blood pressure, you use an infrared sauna. There’s a Japanese word called waon, W-A-O-N. It means healing warmth. And most of the literature anybody could put in their browser, waon, W-A-O-N, therapy and start reading about it. Fifteen minutes in an infrared sauna, usually about 130 hundred or 140 degrees if you give it time to heat up. Then these people would be wrapped up in towels, drink some water, and rest. Because they were not really healthy athletes. They were people with blood pressure and heart damage and heart attacks. And over the course of 10 or 15 years, they showed that blood pressure responded; congestive heart failure, a really serious diagnosis, responded; artery measures showed improvement. They actually have done some modest sized randomized studies. Sick people got infrared saunas, sick people just got standard therapy, there was an improvement in survival and hospitalization. And in Japan, infrared sauna is used as a first line therapy right there with medication or surgery or whatever else you need. But God knows, until those few hours of lectures, I had never heard in any university -and I’m a professor at a university in Detroit – about any of this. And it’s easy. Now, read the literature, read the literature. It was real. And it’s been reproduced. So most of us, thank goodness don’t have bad arteries, don’t have congestive heart failure. Most of us aren’t mice in laboratories. But you know, for many ways of supporting our health, I tell my patients, there’s two therapies you don’t know about probably. One a little pricier and one a little less pricey. They both involve using light to accentuate our health and accelerate our energy production and benefit our weight and benefit our skin and benefit our blood pressure. And the higher end one is to research and get a really good infrared sauna like Sunlighten makes. I have one in my bedroom. And their brand called full spectrum. And this is science again. But it’s far infrared, near infrared, and mid infrared in each of those wavelengths. When you turn it on, it’s hot, you can’t see the light waves but they’re there. Each of them has a different effect. But the near infrared, which is abbreviated in the literature NIR, is really cool because that stuff really works on our muscles. And athletes, if any athletes are listening, many, many professional athletic teams will have various kinds of light therapy and infrared sauna. Because before an athletic event like a football game or after, before basketball or after, recovery pain or they call it delayed onset muscle soreness or DOMs can all be treated. And everything I just said has science and publications. It’s not again to whoo but just not very well known. And I got excited. So many, many of my patients do enjoy it. There may be some other benefits. So you know, we all know it’s the Debbie Downer talk. City water, air, plastics that wrap our burger, whether it’s a Beyond Meat burger or a Black Bean Burger, wherever you’re buying, all these chemicals, these endocrine disrupting chemicals are affecting our fertility and our thyroid and our weight. And one way to get them out – because it’s really hard to keep from having any of them, of course, we want to try and create a lifestyle where we don’t have plastics everywhere and exposure. Air fresheners and perfumes that are all affecting our endocrine system. Infrared sauna does cause you to detoxify and eliminate these better than just gym sweating. You can imagine somebody did a study, “I’m going to run around a gym and collect sweat droplets from people at an elliptical. And I’m going to go to an infrared sauna room and collect sweat droplets from somebody just sitting still.” And there’s more toxins concentrated in the sweat from an infrared sauna than there are from exercising. And of course both are good. And there are even some gyms now that have put infrared panels in the walls of the gym so you get double whammy. But yeah, very cool stuff for the science of waon therapy and infrared sauna.     [21:24] Ashley James: You mentioned that we have receptors on our cells, is that to receive light? To receive infrared? Can you tell us a bit more about that.     [21:33] Dr. Joel Kah: Yeah. So just switching gears a little. Infrared is there but you can’t see it. Then there’s red light. Red lights, easy. I mean, it looks like the matrix. It’s bright. I mean, it’s the one with the one band of the full spectrum. And a prominent researcher at Harvard by the name of Michael Hamblin, H-A-M-B-L-I-N, PhD or MD – I think a PhD – has spent 30 years and many, many publications and textbooks that costs $700. The official name is Photobiomodulation, photolight bio or biology, and we can change our biology through light. But it’s often called the low level laser or red light therapy. But it turns out every one of us have, I think it’s fair to say, billions and billions of mitochondria in our muscles, heart muscles and skeletal muscles, particularly. They’re making all that energy. If anybody’s had the biology background, the ATP energy that keeps our heart strong and our muscles strong, and the rest. And there is a receptor in the system that makes energy. It’s an enzyme called cytochrome c oxidase. And that receptor will respond to red light. And when it is exposed to red light, it will accelerate this process of making energy. It also creates more nitric oxide. If you ask an athlete who knew biology or a trainer, if you created more nitric oxide that was free to circulate and help an athlete’s blood vessels and you created more efficiency in making ATP in their muscles, do you think it would benefit an athlete either performance or recovery? And they think, “I got it. I’d pay a fortune for such.” It turns out red light does that. Proven. The science is known. And it’s a little different. When you get an infrared sauna, you’re getting near infrared energy. And it’s a wonderful thing and it will activate this receptor. But you also might want to explore the field of Photobiomodulation using red light. So Sunlighten has this wonderful little handheld device called lumiNIR. There’s some things that red light does that go beyond near infrared and the combination is the powerhouse. I literally use a red light panel in my near infrared sauna and I get both. Because I wouldn’t be getting red light in my sauna alone. But for all the listeners who want to keep their skin youthful, there’s an FDA approved. This is science backed by years of analysis. That it may promote collagen production, relieve aging spots, wrinkles in the skin. It’s the vanity part. But who doesn’t. You know, eating healthy is clearly beauty inside out is clearly real and the key. But I’m not against using safe therapies that keep us looking a little more youthful. So in the past 12 months, I’ve added red light therapy for 12 or 15 minutes a day. And it’s not tanning and you’re not going to burn yourself. And just another add on to health. It’s fascinating, you know, fascinating.     [24:38] Ashley James: Yeah. I have one of Sunlighten’s lumiNIRs. It’s a handheld device and they have those different attachments. You can do the blue light or the red light and depending on whether you want to support like a joint pain or you want collagen production. It’s very interesting. And I know Sunlighten and gives our listeners a discount. I’m not sure what it is but I’ll find out for the listeners. So bios photo modulation, you mentioned that it helps the body – helps the mitochondria to produce more ATP and they’ve been able to prove this. Or is it that it helps the production of nitric oxide.     [25:12] Dr. Joel Kahn: It actually does both. So if you really want to go deep – here we go. It’s called uncaging nitric oxide on this enzyme. Here, you got a muscle cell in your pectoral muscles because you like to do bench presses. In that muscle, there are thousands of mitochondria. And in those mitochondria, there’s a pathway to make ATP energy so you can lift those weights. The cytochrome c oxidase, for reasons I don’t understand, it actually takes and traps nitric oxide. And the nitric oxide doesn’t do what it’s supposed to do, which is keep your arteries youthful and prevent plaque. And it kind of clogs up the electron transport chain. So when you’re exposed to red light and infrared light, the nitric oxide gets bumped off and it goes and circulates and it does what it’s supposed to do. Suddenly this little fly in the ointment of making ATP is removed. So you actually get both benefits, which is crazy. I mean, it’s so crazy to think that red light and infrared light can do something that is – you know, I’m still blown away how advanced the science is. We’re talking thousands of research articles and basic science and human science. So there’s even reports – and this is science where I wouldn’t say it. You know, how many people deal with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, an autoimmune disease of the thyroid. There are small series that exposing your neck using a red light device like the lumiNIR converts your immune system. It’s called macrophage 1 or macrophage 2. But they stop attacking your own thyroid. And there are reports up substantial 30 or 40% of people no longer needing thyroid replacement after a while. Everybody needs to work with their healthcare team. Of course, their healthcare team won’t have ever heard of this. But if you do look online, Photobiomodulation Hashimoto’s, you can read about it. It’s real science.     [27:07] Ashley James: Oh, that is fascinating. Do you think it has something to do with the fact that it decreases inflammation?     [27:12] Dr. Joel Kah: It decreases inflammation by changing the activity of kind of white blood cell or kind of inflammatory. So I’ll call them back macrophage. Exactly.     [27:22] Ashley James: Because I know that in the 3-in-1 Sunlighten – not the handheld but the big Sunlighten Sauna that has the near, mid, and far infrared – that is incredibly anti-inflammatory to be in. That people notice decreases in pain and inflammation and joint pain. And then I’ve been told the lumiNIR – because I don’t have joint pain – but I’ve been told the lumiNIR has been really helpful for people with joint pain even when it’s like rheumatoid arthritis where there’s an autoimmune component. And you’ve seen the science to back this up.     [27:51] Dr. Joel Kahn: It probably is multiple pathways that lead people with fibromyalgia and more defined autoimmune conditions, like you mentioned, to respond to full spectrum infrared sauna. Because it probably is detoxification. Some will lose weight, which may help. And then finally, this nitric oxide, ATP energy, something like fibromyalgia, some people believe strongly is a mitochondrial energy deficit problem. So if you can safely non-invasively and frankly rather cost effectively deal with it, then you might as well just power up and get rid of the pain.     [28:34] Ashley James: Right. I love it. And you mentioned that saunas help with weight loss. I’ve used the sauna to help with detoxification because I was having problems with weight loss when it came to detoxification. My liver would get all really pissed off. I switched to a plant-based diet and everything’s working a lot better now that I’m doing that and doing the sauna. What can you share with us about, from the standpoint of heart health, cardiovascular health, and how saunas help with that, how does the sauna therapy, this heat therapy, help us with detoxification and weight loss?     [29:10] Dr. Joel Kahn: Yes. Well, it’s actually a very efficient way. It’s interesting. There’s some data that cold therapy is a very efficient way to accelerate your weight loss. So I have adopted this crazy habit I hate that after workout, I jump in the shower. And at least part of it, I douse myself and cold water. It does wake you up like no other. I hate everything about it. Because there’s nothing more comforting than a hot shower but a cold shower. And on the flip side, the efficiency of burning calories in an infrared sauna is as high as many ellipticals and treadmills. And it might be roughly 500, 600, 700 calories an hour. So you know, it doesn’t replace – number one, if you’re a good athlete and you can really get good workouts, please do it. There’s all kinds of cardiovascular benefits. Some people have reasons that they can’t really get that high level workout. And many people do both. They’ll get the – you know, they CrossFit or the HIIT or yoga or whatever it is and then they’ll add in some saunas on top of it. So it can be very helpful with the calories in, calories out. The calorie out part of weight loss, I had, unfortunately, in a medical conference, the misfortune of breaking a foot on an escalator two months ago. So I’ve had to give up – it’s recovering very well. But I’ve had to give up the treadmill, elliptical, Concept 2 rower, and all the things I like to do yoga. So I’m spending more time in an infrared sauna and been able to maintain my weight. I mean, a lot of upper body work and such. I shifted. But just a personal example, you know, add that in. And it may be too. There’s this theory – this gets a little whoo – we really are exposed to a lot of garbage, pesticides, herbicides, these endocrine disrupting chemicals. And a lot of them do get – they’re fat soluble chemicals, particularly PCBs and DDT. And these things are unfortunately highly concentrated in fish. So fish eaters are much more exposed to these things. But you may need to get rid and reduce your burden on some of these chemicals to really lose weight. Because there’s like this battle, if I keep my fat, I dilute these chemicals and they’re less toxic to my physiology. And if I lose weight, and they’re all released in the bloodstream, I may feel bad. Kind of like the Keto flu or the kind of ill feeling that people get the first couple days of some kind of detox. So sweating them out as a real efficient way in a sauna to reduce your burden and accelerate weight loss. Now, everything I just said is a little blurry in terms of, “Do we absolutely know?” But that is a strong theory that people feel reflects life in 2019 and 2020.     [31:57] Ashley James: And it’s been my experience too. I kept hitting a wall. Every time I lose a few pounds, I get really over toxic and my liver would inflame. I went for ultrasounds and blood work and it was sure enough, my liver was really pissed. And my Naturopath didn’t know what was going on. He was trying to throw some supplements at me to support the liver. But I had to basically stop weight loss and then wait for it to calm down then start again. I was just sick of it. And so finally my niche process was like, “You really should get a sauna.” And that’s why I dived into studying all the different types of saunas. And I came across Sunlighten Sauna and discovered that that was my favorite out of all the other companies. Really low EMF, nontoxic. And then when I started using it, it was like a light bulb went off inside me. It was the total difference. I feel happier when I use it. I get better sleep. I don’t have my inflamed liver anymore. The weight loss has been consistent. So I’ve become this raving fan about Sunlighten. But again, I didn’t understand the deep science behind it. And so I love that you’re saying that the receptors in our body, the cells have receptors for light. And I’ve heard from other people that light is like a nutrient. And we are starving our body because of modern day society. We’re actually starving from the full spectrum that we need. So it’s like we’re nutrient deficient and the nutrient is light.     [33:23] Dr. Joel Kahn: So that that circles back to something I said a while about how similar we are to plants, which is a novel idea. But of course plants can take light and use them to stimulate the production of energy. It powers them. They have chlorophyll. There is a report in 2014 and I wrote a little blog about it back then. It was so interesting, it made some headlines. It wasn’t a human study but it was a mammal study. And we do not think that we can be out in the sun and create energy out of that process. We’re not plants. But that did occur in mammalian cells. And there may be a whole spectrum of we know light helps you make vitamin D, which is an important health supporting. Some people say hormone and vitamin. There is some data you can make more nitric oxide by being in the sun. And people that live in lower portions in the United States have lower blood pressure than people who live in northern portions. And it all correlates how many hours a day there’s sunshine. But whether we actually can energize and feel better, of course, intuition says, take a vacation in the sun. And it feels great. And it may be partly that we have still pathways that aren’t completely understood in these cytochrome C oxidase pathways may indeed be part of it. So it’s very cool. And you know, as I say one of the easiest health blaze is to get more light or get more red light with dedicated products. These used to be extremely expensive. You’d have to spend $10,000 to 30,000 to go to a health spa or a dermatology office. But it’s much different now for way, way under $1,000. You got a great system.     [35:05] Ashley James: Yeah. I really like the lumiNIR and all that you can do with it with all the different attachments. Like you said, you can do the anti-aging. There’s an attachment specifically for helping skin with acne and healing the skin. And I really geek out on helping people with pain and decreasing pain and supporting healthy tissue. So there’s so many different benefits to making sure we’re exposed to light either getting out in the sun or getting in a Sunlighten Sauna. But being able to expose yourself to the different and full – as much as you can full spectrum of light. Now, I know we’re under a time constraint and I definitely want to make sure I get to the listeners questions because I posted on the Learn True Health Facebook Group some questions.     [35:50] Dr. Joel Kahn: Let me just – before we leave the sauna, let me just shout out three – again, I told everybody I already like science. So I’m going to give three very nonscientific tips here.     [36:01] Ashley James: Okay. Great.     [36:01] Dr. Joel Kahn: Well, the first one is okay. I do my meditation. Which isn’t absolutely regular but I do it in the infrared sauna. I call it saunatation. I’m already isolated. I’m already cleansing physiologically my body, why not cleanse some of the stress. So I encourage people that’s just a perfect place to do that. That’s number one. Number two, I actually do take a big handful of organic chlorella about half-an-hour before getting in the sauna. Because I want to be a plant. And I don’t know for sure if that works. But my blood level of chlorophyll is extremely high from taking 25 or 30 little tablets. Like anybody can buy of high quality chlorella. And it just feels good. And the third one, and please don’t do this if you’re not really healthy and know your status. There’s sort of this strategy, go do a HIIT workout for 10 or 15 minutes after you’ve taken a little handful of niacin, a B vitamin that makes you sweat and turn red. And you might feel very poorly on it so be careful. But it’s over the counter. You know, so take your knives and do your workout and pop in a sauna. You want to have a detoxifying sweat, you will have a detoxifying sweat.     [37:17] Ashley James: Very interesting. So you’re inducing the niacin flush. Is that like opening up capillaries around the surface of the skin?     [37:27] Dr. Joel Kahn: That’s exactly what you’re feeling on the surface of the skin. Clearly, if you’re not healthy, if you’ve had a bad reaction to niacin – I mean, it’s not a medical therapy and niacin is an over the counter vitamin. So I don’t think I’ve completely violated my Hippocratic oath. And I’ve done it a thousand times and so far still alive and kicking. But it’s an interesting little play.     [37:51] Ashley James: Now, I’m going to have to try that. I’ve definitely have some niacin here on the shelf. I’m going to have to try that for sure. I usually get the no-flush niacin. But to want to do it on purpose to open up all the blood flow to the surface to increase the sweating and detoxification, that sounds like a really fun experiment. I’m kind of like — you know, you hear about this term biohacker. I love experimenting on myself in a safe way. You know, try it out. And I feel like my listeners do the same. They love trying different things, especially when they learn from great guests like you and seeing how it works for them. I have two more things to add to your routine – or one more thing for you to add to the routine is trying a magnesium soak while you’re in the sauna. And I’ll make sure I send you some information on it. But it’s transdermal. It’s a liquid. And you just put a few cups of water with a foot basin while you’re in the sauna, and you absorb a ton of magnesium. And so a lot of my listeners, including myself, love doing that in the sauna as well. And that also opens up the blood flow. And then my favorite – and I definitely encourage you to try it out – my favorite chlorella brand – I’ve tried a bunch of them – and I found that ENERGYbits, they make one called –     [39:06] Dr. Joel Kahn: That’s what I just swallowed.     [39:07] Ashley James: Yes. RECOVERYbits are my favorite because it tastes amazing. All the other ones kind of tastes fishy to me or stale. And ENERGYbits has been consistent with their quality and their testing. I’ve had Catharine Arnston, the creator of ENERGYbits on the show many times. And so yeah, we’re on the same page. I’m so excited to introduce you the magnesium soak. I’ll make sure I send you some information because I know that you’ll really enjoy adding that to your sauna routine and seeing how you how you feel about it. So let me get to the listener questions because I know that we’re under time constraint and I want to respect your time. Daniela, first of all, says that your – she’s the one that said your podcast is absolutely amazing. So I want to shout out to Daniela. She was really looking forward to hearing our interview. Naomi has a really interesting one. Her dad had a valve replacement surgery recently because of a narrow valve. And the doctor said it was congenital. But none of his symptoms started until he was 70. And they’re like, “Well, you know you were born with it.” But none of his symptoms started until his 70 and now they’re seeing narrowing of the arteries. Of course, that can be – as you and I know – corrected with wonderful whole food plant-based diet with no oil. What do you say to that when people say – when doctor said, “Well, that’s just congenital. You were born with it.” But the disease never occurred until they were much later in life.     [40:28] Dr. Joel Kahn: Go back to Daniela. Thank you, Daniela, for listening to Heart Doc VIP. Okay. I just wanted to say thank you to her because that was kind of you. But to go to this question. There is a – the number one most common birth condition, congenital heart condition, is actually what her father had. The last valve of the heart when the heart pumps hard to get all the blood out to the body, it goes through a valve called the aortic valve. That looks like a Mercedes Benz or a peace sign, three little parts. They open, they shot. One person people are born where there’s two pieces, not three. It’s called a bicuspid aortic valve. It looks like your rear end. It has two pieces, not three. But we don’t call it a tush valve. It’s a bicuspid valve. Now, you can now call it a tush valve. And because it’s abnormal, 100,000 heartbeats a day. By the time you’re 40 or 45 or 50 or 55, there’s some scarring, some calcification. And the valve may no longer open enough so you start to get shorter breath, tighten the chest, dizzy. And at that point, you may need something done about it. There’s nothing you can do about being born with it. It’s common. You might ask a doctor. There is some family history. So your listener might ask her doctor, “Are you sure there’s no murmur there when you listen to my heart with the stethoscope?” But there’s really no absolute necessity to make the diagnosis early, early. But they’re just finish it up. Occasionally with that valve – right above the heart is called your aorta. The aorta may be a little enlarged. That’s a little more important of a finding earlier in life. You shouldn’t probably be snapping or catching 300 pound lifts in CrossFit if you knew your aorta was enlarged. So it might be worth pursuing it with what we call an ultrasound of the heart or echocardiogram, if there really was any question your doctor thought they heard something or there really is a strong family history. I’ll give you one last little tip because your listeners deserve the best of the best. There is a class of antibiotics – I’m totally shifting gears but I’m coming back to your listeners question. They are called fluoroquinolones. But you might know him by Cipro, ciprofloxacin, Levaquin, levofloxacin. These are actually the most commonly prescribed oral and IV antibiotics in the United States. It is now apparent after 30 years of using them, that they weaken our collagen. They cause rupture [inaudible 00:42:57]. Your Achilles can get inflamed or rupture after a seven to ten day course. But now in the last three or four years, your aorta, the most important blood vessel in the body, can get weakened and damaged after just a week or ten days on these antibiotics. And very recently, even heart valves, all of these structures are made of collagen. These antibiotics have – it took years to identify. It’s not common. But when you talk about tens of millions of prescriptions, if it’s only 1% or 1.5% of people, it’s still a lot of people. Which is why somebody like this father – I mean, anybody within a large aorta should now know that there’s FDA warnings about maybe not using this class of antibiotics that are used for prostate and urinary and bronchitis in the hospital and in the office. I’ll say as I was just on the doctor show being interviewed on this topic, because it is really important and hot. And Drew Ordon, the plastic surgeon with the white hair and wonderful guy said, “I’m Levaquin right now for my prostate and this is scaring me.” And it is being recommended that you ask your doctor maybe shift antibiotics to another one. So circling back to your question, it’s 1% of people born with an abnormal valve. It might also cause their aorta to be enlarged. If you knew your aorta was enlarged, you do not want to take these classes of antibiotics. And even if your aorta isn’t enlarged, for the sake of your Achilles tendon and other structures, you still might want to ask, ” Can I have a penicillin or sulfa?” Older antibiotic like Macrobid. These drugs have been out for decades. It’s interesting. It’s not the only drug. We’ve learned new things about old drugs that are frankly changing practice and fairly scary. Next question. Next question.     [44:50] Ashley James: Thank you so much for warning us. Kelly asks, “Are there any recommendations he has for children who are born with heart conditions such as ASD, PFO, etc.?     [44:59] Dr. Joel Kahn: These are interesting questions because, again, birth defects are rarely the common questions that are asked. I’m certainly welcome to have them. I mean, so you can -the second most common birth defect after the valve is a little hole in the heart called a PFO, Patent Foramen Ovale. Usually very innocent. And then there’s a larger hole called ASD, Atrial Septal Defect. And then there are more complex where it might be apparent before birth or at birth that this is a child that has serious problems, blue babies and developmental problems. But you know, just like that listener’s Father, it took decades. There are people that have had this hole in their heart for it 20, 30, 40 years. And then they begin to get shorter breath or then they begin to get fatigue. So there isn’t a diet, there isn’t a lifestyle, there isn’t a sauna treatment for everything in life. You just need, at that point, good medical care. And sometimes ultimately, a procedure that more and more is not surgery. More and more, it’s some kind of procedure where they don’t have to crack your chest open. But people should be much more concerned about their arteries getting clogged and the risk of heart attack and stroke. Because the frequency of that from age 35, 40, 45, and up is a thousand times more of a concern than finding out unexpectedly at age 70. You’ve got a valve or a hole in your heart issue. They’re all important.     [46:31] Ashley James: Right. That we can prevent heart disease with whole food plant-based diet with no processed foods would be much better for most of the population. And then there’s a small percentage that has a birth defect but could still – even with a birth defect, couldn’t we still optimize our heart health with a really good heart health diet?     [46:50] Dr. Joel Kahn: Yeah. Always. And there’s an insane number of reasons to as early as you can in life learn the clues. Don’t smoke, stay thin, get fitness, get sleep, manage stress, eat more fruits and vegetables, whole grains, and legumes. And anybody around you does. Be the champion of whole real foods from plant sources. Don’t smoke. If I said it twice, it deserves to be said twice.     [47:17] Ashley James: Don’t vape.      [47:17] Dr. Joel Kahn: If nothing happens during your life, you’ve just probably added a dozen plus years of good health and reduce risk of diabetes, cancer, brain disease and heart disease. If something comes up in your life, you’re showing up in the best shape possible. So yes, we buy life insurance, we wear seatbelts, we wear bicycle helmets, we’re into the mode of taking certain precautions even though they’re relatively unlikely. Whereas, heart disease is incredibly likely and we neither look for it nor do we really work very hard to prevent it.     [47:50] Ashley James: My dad died of heart disease. My mom died of cancer. And that’s one of the biggest reasons why I do this show. I can’t save my parents. I don’t have a time machine. But I can help my listeners save theirs and save themselves. And we can. We can prevent and reverse disease and add years to your life with all the things you’ve talked about. You know, we’re on a roll. Heidi says, “I have a question as well. My husband has a rare genetic heart condition called ARVC. His arteries are perfectly healthy but it’s electrical part of the heart that’s not. Do you have any advice for anyone with this condition?”     [48:26] Dr. Joel Kahn: Yeah. Again, an important but very unusual birth abnormality, the right side of your heart, it just doesn’t form normally. And it makes people prone to serious fast heartbeats that could cause you to blackout or worse. And you work with certain cardiologists called electrical cardiologists and sometimes you need that fancy pacemaker called a defibrillator. And they can be life saving for certain people. And the same comment, show up to that challenge in life. You know, why is that gentleman’s arteries clean? And that’s a very complex question of genetics and lifestyle and fitness and all. But if you start eating plant-based at age 18, as I had the good fortune by luck, you probably are going to show up for that procedure with your arteries clean. And I know at age 60 mine are squeaky clean. There’s ways to get a quick CAT scan and confirm that and there. So it’s always best. The best protection is to stay out of the hospital on as few medicines as you can with as few doctor procedures as you can. The number three cause of death in the United States is medical procedures and medications that go wrong. Number three causes of death are heart disease and cancer. So the best plan is not need to be there. And I run from hospitals even though I am part of them and I will say I’m on staff with them. But in terms of my own health, I do not trust what goes on in hospitals.     [49:56] Ashley James: Thank you. I love this. We have to walk that fine line of understanding when we want to go to allopathic medicine and when we don’t. This show obviously celebrates all the times we don’t want to go to allopathic medicine but allopathic medicine has its place. And if my heart was beating to the point where it’s blocking out, I’d really want to see a good electrical cardiologist. Is that what it’s called? I definitely want to go see a really good one. But for prevention and for optimizing our health, then we can do it through diet. I interviewed Dr. Esselstyn and he has seen people with even four blockages in the heart, reverse it within months of going on a whole food plant-based diet, as you I’m sure have seen and know. So it’s just amazing what the body can do when we give it the nutrition it needs. Teresa asks – she says, “Many of the autoimmune neuro disease experts insist on good fats in the diet. Added fats like ghee, tallow, lard and coconut oils, mostly for cooking and to drizzle over vegetables for absorption. I personally have trouble breaking down fats and proteins and I’ve had to take digestive enzymes with every meal. Is it really necessary to add all that extra fat for MS, ALS, and even Hashimoto’s? I followed Dr. John McDougall for years and felt great. But that was before autoimmunity. So she then developed an autoimmune condition.” And she says, “Also, the experts talk about organ meats for autoimmunity. What could replace a nutrient density in a plant-based diet?” So she doesn’t want to have to eat organ meats and all this processed fat but she wants to heal her body. Do you have any advice for her?     [51:37] Dr. Joel Kahn: Yeah. And I think it gets to just a fundamental question. Where do you get your advice? Do they have any conflicts in the advice they’re giving? And are they really trained to give advice? Because every trainer or every dietitian – at least a dietitian has some formal training if they’re an RD, every health coach can get a blog and YouTube and give advice. Go find me data that you need to eat organ meats to heal neurologic or autoimmune disease. And let’s talk about randomized studies that are out there. And you know, not everything in the world that’s great has to be plant-based. So there’s so many reasons to talk about a whole food plant-base for the environment, for animal rights, and animal cruelty and suffering. And for the gigantic database that it is the best plan to preserve and protect your health in general and for both brain and autoimmune diseases. I spent the weekend with Dr. Terry Wahls of HLS. And many people will know she’s a medical doctor with a breakout book called The Wahls Protocol a couple years ago. She’s redoing it right now. And she had disabling multiple sclerosis. She was an internist in the University of Iowa at the VA. And kind of created her own plan of hyper nourishment with ten servings a day of organic leafy greens and smoothies and salads and mushrooms and onions and garlic. And a few servings of animal foods during the week. Far less than the typical Paleo diet. Lots of omega-3 rich foods. And I was asking her by and she recovered her own health. She’s helped so many people recover. I mean, I’m not going to argue with her. She’s walking and riding her bike and she was in a wheelchair. I’m going to tell her diet is other than optimal. It worked out optimally for her and a lot of other people. There is a similar plan that is all plant-based that’s taught by a physician in Houston, Brooke Goldner, G-O-L-D-N-E-R and her book called Goodbye Lupus or Goodbye Autoimmune Disease, her new book. So you can do it super clean whole food plant-based, super clean almost plant-based as Dr. Wahls teaches. But it’s not all that gook you talked about. And what I love about, particularly Dr. Wahls right now, she took her own personal health crisis and recovery. Her broad experience teaching other people within the VA and other medical systems in the University of Iowa. And now she’s actually doing prospective randomized published studies. You can’t jack with somebody who’s done that kind of science. And I’ll say no disrespect, but it kind of is disrespect. Show me Dr. David Perlmutter’s prospective peer reviewed studies or Dr. Mark Hyman or Dr. Bill Davis. I mean, these are the giants of some of this weird stuff. I mean, bone marrow and bone broth. I know it’s trendy. But let’s talk about where we follow the typical scientific path of you got a hypothesis, you arrange a study, you do it, you publish it. Dr. Wahls sure [inaudible 00:54:32] has. So my brain favorites are two neurologists by the name of Sherzai, S-H-E-R-Z-A-I. Which is Dean and Ayesha Sherzai, academic neurologists in Long Beach and Loma Linda with a book called The Alzheimer’s Solution. And I would follow their program for brain and neurological health in that book.     [54:56] Ashley James: Thank you so much. That was great. I love the books that you let us know about because those are going to be great guests for the show. I’m definitely going to ask them all to be on the show. And those will be great resources for the listeners as well. It has been such a pleasure having you on the show. I know time just flies. And I know you’ve got to go. Before you do, is there any advice that you’d like to leave listeners with or homework that you’d like to leave the listeners with?     [55:25] Dr. Joel Kahn: That’s an interesting question, homework, because that’s exactly the expression I use with my patients. So, “Here’s your homework. And I can’t do this all for you. And I can guide you to people.” I believe my opinion are credible and we should spend time. I mean, everybody should watch Forks Over Knives on Netflix. Or if there’s anybody left that has a DVD player. It’s still available. I give my patients the option of taking a DVD home or watch it on Netflix. If you want to upgrade that, you might watch What The Health from 2017. And very soon you’ll be able to watch Game Changers. A new movie that was in the theaters that will be released on iTunes very soon. I mean, I’ve seen all those movies. You know, there are a lot of health movies that I don’t think represent fairly. But surely Forks Over Knives, which is Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn and Dr. Caldwell, I would certainly say, are fair. Other homework, let’s see. You know, get familiar with pubmed.gov. It can be a slippery slope. But that’s the national library of medicine and 30 million scientific articles. You can’t get the full article on everyone but you can and a lot. And like, if you don’t believe me on red light therapy or photobiomodulation and Hashimoto’s, that’s where you go. You go there. And you know, it’s a little tough sometimes to read the scientific articles but that’s a good habit. I mean, you could, I will say, also, put it bone broth and health. That’s where you want to look. You’ll find nothing. Actually, you’ll find one article that says it’s dangerous and toxic in terms of lead levels in bone broth causing bones that your cooking to release some of the stored lead that is in them. But you know, these kind of habits is something if you really want to get as credible as you can. You might know learn simple skills to do.     [57:24] Ashley James: Oh, I love it. Yes, PubMed. Let’s advocate for ourselves by looking into the science. Absolutely. I went to the movie theaters and saw the Game Changers in the movies. And I went with actually one of our listeners who’s a friend of mine, Naomi. A big shout out to her. And the whole time we kept looking at each other going, “We have to get this person to watch this. Oh my gosh. We got to get our parents to watch this.” We can’t believe it. Like, I am so excited that October 1st when it comes out on iTunes, I’m going to buy the digital copy and get as many of my friends and family to watch it. And I really love that it just shows – it blows this idea that that [inaudible 00:58:01] totally out of the ballpark. And it shows that if you want to have really great sexual health and great muscle and great strength and endurance and all that, men and women get it from a whole food plant-based diet. That’s such a cool – and it is really a game changer. Dr. Joel Kahn, it has been such a pleasure having you on the show today. You are welcome back anytime you want to come share with our listeners. It was a true pleasure to have you today.     [58:30] Dr. Joel Kahn: Well, it is mutual fan club, mutual Seattle fan club. And yeah, I look forward doing that. I’d be happy to help you contact any of those other people if you want to get them on because I think your listenership would love them.     [58:43] Ashley James: Awesome. That sounds great. Thank you.   —   Outro: Hello true health seeker. Have you ever thought about becoming a health coach? Do you love learning about nutrition? And how we can shift our lifestyle and our diet so that we can gain optimal health and happiness and longevity? Do you love helping your friends and family to solve their health problems and to figure out what they can do to eat healthier? Are you interested in becoming someone who can grow their own business? Support people in their success? Do you love helping people? You might be the perfect candidate to become a health coach. I highly recommend checking out the Institute for Integrative Nutrition. I just spent the last year in their health coaching certification program. And it really blew me away. It was so amazing. I learned over 100 dietary theories. I learned all about nutrition. But from a standpoint of how we can help people to shift their life and shift their lifestyle to gain true holistic health. I definitely recommend you check them out. You can Google Institute for Integrative Nutrition or IIN and give them a call. Or you can go to learntruehealth.com/coach and you can receive a free module of their training to check it out and see if it’s something that you’d be interested in. Be sure to mention my name, Ashley James and the Learn True Health podcast. Because I made a deal with them that they will give you the best price possible. I highly recommend checking it out. It really changed my life to be in their program. And I’m such a big advocate that I wanted to spread this information. We need more health coaches. In fact, health coaching is the largest growing career right now in the health field. So many health coaches are getting in and helping people because you can work in chiropractic offices, doctors offices, you can work in hospitals. ,You can work online through Skype and help people around the world. You can become an author. You can go into the school system and help your local schools shift their programs to help children be healthier. You can go into senior centers and help them to shift their diet and lifestyle to best support them in their success and their health goals. There’s so many different available options for you when you become a certified health coach. So check out IIN. Check out the Institute for Integrative Nutrition. Mention my name. Get the best deal. Give them a call and they’ll give you lots of free information and help you to see if this is the right move for you. Classes are starting soon. The next round of classes are starting at the end of the month. So you’re going to want to call them now and check it out. And if you know anyone in your life who would be an amazing coach, please tell them about it. Being a health coach is so rewarding and you get to help so many people.   Get Connected With Dr. Joel Kahn! Website Facebook Twitter Instagram Books by Dr. Joel Kahn The Plant Based Solution The Whole Heart Solution The No B.S. Diet

Today on The Stacks, author and journalist Vanessa McGrady talks with us about her new book, Rock Needs River, a memoir about becoming a mother through open adoption. We also talk about micro-aggressions , dark and twisty memoirs, and some of Vanessa's favorite books about adoption. Everything we talk about on today's episode can be found below in the show notes. The Stacks participates in affiliate programs, and shopping through the links below (mostly Amazon) helps support the show, at no cost to you. Books Rock Needs River by Vanessa McGradyThe Pritikin Program for Diet and Exercise by Nathan Pritikin and Patrick M. McGradyAll You Can Ever Know by Nicole ChungBorn with Teeth by Kate MulgrewGod and Jetfire by Amy SeekThe Kid by Dan SavageCorduroy by Don FreemanThe Wizard of Oz by L. Frank BaumThe Bible by Christian Art PublishersThe Poisonwood Bible by Barbara KingsolverMayfly by Jeff Sweat Love in the Time of Cholera by Gabriel García MarquezOne Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García MarquezPriestdaddy by Patricia LockwoodGirl Boner by August McLaughlinBetween the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi CoatesHeavy by Kiese LaymonHunger by Roxane GayBecoming by Michelle ObamaEducated by Tara WestoverLove, Lucy by Lucille BallThe Glass Castle by Jeannette WallsWhen You Read This by Mary AdkinsHe's Just Not That Into You by Greg BehrendtThe Rules by Sherri SchneiderShared Tables by Kaumudi MaratheA Higher Loyalty by James ComeyMen Explain Things to Me by Rebecca SolnitFear by Bob WoodwardGreat Again by Donald TrumpIsabel AllendeAnna QuindlenBarbara KingsolverMaya AngelouBarbara (Stanny) HusonThe Hormone Reset Diet by Sara Gottfried M.D.Instant Mom by Nia VardalosTwilight by Stephanie MeyerA Clockwork Orange by Anthony BurgessBeloved by Toni MorrisonHarriet the Spy by Louise FitzhughThe Diary of Anne Frank by Anne FrankMany Lives, Many Masters by Brian L. WeissNumber the Stars by Lois LowryFear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Hunter S. ThompsonThe 13th Continuum by Jennifer Brody Everything Else "I Won't Let My 4-Year-Old Daughter Grow Up Stepping Aside for Sexism, Like I Did" (Vanessa McGrady, Jezebel)"Why Men Need To Stop Making This Joke About Women And Money" (Vanessa McGrady, Forbes)The Kinship CenterThe Wizard of Oz (Victor Fleming, 1939)Star Wars (George Lucas, 1977)Mad Max (George Miller, 1977)The Is Us (NBC)Frozen (Chris Buck, Jennifer Lee, 2013)Ep. 20 Between The World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates -- The Stacks Book Club (The Stacks)Amazon KindleMy Big Fat Greek Wedding (Joel Zwick, 2002)Beloved (Jonathan Demme, 1998) Connect with Vanessa: Vanessa's Website | Vanessa's Twitter | Vanessa's Instagram Connect with The Stacks: Instagram | The Stacks Website | Facebook | Twitter | Subscribe | Patreon | Goodreads | Traci's Instagram To contribute to The Stacks, join The Stacks Pack, and get exclusive perks, check out our Patreon page. We are beyond grateful for anything you're able to give to support the production of this show. If you prefer to do a one time contribution go to paypal.me/thestackspod. Sponsors Audible- to get your FREE audiobook download and FREE 30 day trial go to audibletrial.com/thestacks. My Mentor Book Club - for 50% off your first month of new nonfiction from My Mentor Book Club go to mymentorbookclub.com/thestacks The Stacks received Rock Needs River from the publisher in exchange for an honest review. For more information click here. The Stacks participates in affiliate programs. We receive a small commission when products are purchased through links on this website, and this comes at no cost to you. Shopping through these links helps support the show, but does not effect opinions on books and products. For more information click here.

Dr Jeffrey Life became famous in flight magazines that showed before and after pictures of his dramatic weight transformation. From being obese at age 54, he became a fitness icon by age 64 thanks to exercise, weight training, and bioidentical hormones including testosterone, DHEA, HGH, herbs, and supplements. Then, Dr. Life was shocked to find out he had coronary heart disease caused by his Paleo-type meat-centric diet. He studied the work of Dean Ornish, MD, author of Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease Caldwell Essylsten, John McDougall of McDougall’s Medicine and Nick Delgado, who studied with Nathan Pritikin, and learned that he should shift to an oil-free plant-centric diet. Take the FREE Lifestyle Medicine Quiz on delgadoprotocol.com to find out how you can take your health to the next level.

Dr. Nick Delgado hosts a talk with Michael Greger, MD, author of "How Not to Die" and one of the most scientifically based non biased websites on how a Plant Based Diet can greatly help to prevent and combat 20+ chronic/deadly diseases. Michael Greger credits Nathan Pritikin, Nick Delgado's mentor with saving his grandmother's life from death's door (coronary heart disease) and focusing his entire medical career on the prevention and treatment of the worst chronic disease killers in the western world. Watch for more collaboration, videos and podcasts at DelgadoProtocol.com. Call (949) 720-1554 to get the Simply Healthy Cookbook (oil-free, plant based cookbook consistent with Michael Greger's philosophy)

We used to consider smoking healthy - everyone smoked, even doctors. It took over 20 years and 7000 studies before the first official report against smoking was published. How long will it take before the truth comes out about our diets? Well, if Dr. Michael Greger has anything to do with it, not long at all! Dr. Greger was inspired into the medical profession by his grandma’s healing story. She’d had so many bypass operations that doctors said there was nothing more to be done, and sent her home to die. She was only 65. But after working with of one of the original lifestyle medicine pioneers, Nathan Pritikin, she healed herself and went on to live another 31 healthy happy years. Having witnessed firsthand the healing power of a plant-based diet, Dr. Greger is on a mission to bring the truth about nutrition to as many people as possible. He founded the free, non-profit, science-based website NutritionFacts.org, which provides the latest in evidence-based nutrition research. We love his book How Not to Die, where he examines the top 15 causes of death in the US, and explains how nutrition works BETTER than prescription meds to prevent and reverse disease, heal your body and help you live longer. It’s a practical guide that will help you design a lifestyle that supports your complete wellbeing. You can download the free Daily Dozen app, which gives you simple daily strategies to fight disease and feel great, even on a budget. And the best thing? 100% of the proceeds of his books are donated to charity. The message is loud and clear: we have the power to prevent and reverse chronic disease with a plant-based diet and healthy lifestyle. Dr. Greger is also working on a new book, How Not To Diet, which will be out in December 2019. He’s discovered some unique metabolic quirks to accelerate weight loss. We can’t wait to read it!! Dr. Greger’s recommendations to prevent and reverse chronic disease: It’s the day-to-day stuff that matters. Avoid the worst foods (soda, processed meats, trans-fats, dairy) Add in the best foods (beans, berries, leafy greens, chia seeds) Pack in as many whole healthy plant foods as possible - real food that grows out of the ground Being hailed as “Sex and the City for Food,” The Food Heals Podcast brings together experts in the field of nutrition, health and healing to teach you the best-kept natural secrets to being a hotter, healthier, happier YOU! The Food Heals Podcast is hosted by Allison Melody and Suzy Hardy – two self-proclaimed natural chicks who will rock your world and change your beliefs about health! This sexy, savvy duo provides eco-friendly advice on a variety of issues including the healing power of nutrition, living authentically, turning your passion into your career, choosing the best natural health and beauty products, the benefits of a plant-based diet and so much more!

Ep. 235: Denise Minger and Extreme Diets In this episode, Stacy and Sarah invite Denise Minger, author of Death By Food Pyramid, on to talk about research she did on extremely high carb, extremely low fat diets and why they seem to help heal people with serious disease, contrary to conventional paleo wisdom. Click the picture above to be taken to iTunes If you enjoy the show, please review it in iTunes! The Paleo View (TPV), Episode 235: Denise Minger and Extreme Diets Intro (0:00) News and Views (0:40) Our guest is Denise Minger of DeniseMinger.com! She's here to answer a specific question we received about a talk she did at AHS '14! He book Death By Food Pyramid is one of Sarah's favorites! See the podcast we did with her about it here. Question from Valerie: "first of all I'd like to thank you for what you're doing. Your show always puts a smile on my face and I am afraid of the day I will have caught up with all past episodes and will actually have to wait a week for the next one to come out. So I was ordering my InstantPot the other day when Amazon recommend I shall buy the book "The Starch Solution" by John McDougall. I got curious about it and did some research and it seems the diet is a paleo person's worst nightmare: Based solely on starches, whole grains, legumes, no fats allowed whatsoever, zero animal products. It promises weight loss (not hard to imagine, being on a totally bland diet), but also permanent reversal (as in healing) of diabetes and all sorts of health benefits. I also found a talk by Denise Minger ('lessons from the vegans', I think you might actually have mentioned it sometime) who confirms these findings. What's puzzling me is all the reports of people doing that diet talking about improved digestion, no blood sugar spikes (!) and I also found quite a few reports from Crohn's patients apparently being cured by it, although this is totally counter intuitive for anyone that has ever been on SCD or paleo. Can you think of any explanation for these miraculous cures?" Denise posted a post about this topic here. A study by Walter Kempner found that a super high sugar, super low fat diet had benefits for people with diabetes, multiple sclerosis, heart disease and other conditions. He was trying to help people with kidney failure. 96% carbohydrate and mostly white sugar, about 2000 calories. What came out of this came to be known as the Rice Diet Look at the end of these notes for OFFICIAL Denise Minger meme images. These benefit lasted even after they returned to a normal diet. Roy Swank found that people in mountains of Norway were eating a lot of land animal fats and had a relatively high incidence of multiple sclerosis while people eating mostly fish on the coast had a low incidence of MS. He put people with MS on a very low saturated fat diet for decades and found a lot of success with the people who stuck the closest to his diet. This doesn't seem to jibe with what we know of MS, particularly compared with people like Terry Wahls who eat much more fat. Nathan Pritikin worked on a plant-based, super low fat diet to reverse heart disease. With all this very thorough research that seems contradictory to the paleo model, it seemed to Denise like she needed to revise what she believed was true. Denise initially thought it was the low processed foods component with mainly whole foods focus that was the cause. But obviously the Kempner mostly refined sugar diet that doesn't apply. But it seems like these extreme diets have evidence that they can help you repair when you're sick, but not necessarily to prevent the disease in the first place! Denise found that most low fat diets call for 30% of calories from fat, while these extreme diets are under 10%. The really problematic diets are the refined grain diets with that 30% or more calories from fat that have the most disease promoting properties. Denise believes that this is because of the gut and how chylomicrons and endotoxins (lipopolysaccharides) work on these diets. Endotoxins are linked to a lot of modern diseases and are present the most in high saturated fat diets. Chylomicrons are lipoproteins in the gut that transport fat out to the rest of the body, but they will also bring endotoxins along with them. To reduce endotoxins in the blood, you can either eat this super low fat diet, or you can promote a healthy gut that doesn't produce a lot of endotoxins to begin with. For diabetes, saturated fat increases the secretion of insulin. This is why a sugar diet could improve diabetes. There could be a fat/carbohydrate interaction in some people that may make them more susceptible to blood sugar issues. It seems that these plant based diets are so adamant about super low fat: if you even eat a moderate amount of fat, the therapeutic effect goes away! Denise concludes that healthy people without these conditions shouldn't be worried about her research because these diets are for therapeutic effect and don't have evidence that they benefit people trying to prevent disease. Endotoxin is created by the cell walls of gram-negative bacteria. Gram-negative bacteria are sensitive to the fiber intake of the diet. Jeff Leach of the Human Food Project studies the human gut microbiome. Read his post Going Feral: My One-Year Journey to Acquire the Healthiest Gut Microbiome in the World (You Heard Me!) to get the story of him testing his own gut microbiome and figuring out what variables helped improve it. Endotoxin is highly inflammatory. It's how we get lab rats to develop disease and it is the cause of sepsis. Thanks to Denise for coming on the show on short notice! Go to DeniseMinger.com for everything about her! And read her book Death by Food Pyramid! Outro (43:18)   Support us by shopping through links on our sidebars, please!

If you're as confused as I am by all the nutritional claims and hype of different diets, fads, and trends, then do we have the show for you! Today we'll be talking with Dr. Michael Greger, founder of nutrionfacts.org, and an internationally recognized speaker on nutrition, preventive medicine, and our health and author of the acclaimed book, How Not to Die. Today we'll work to cut through some of the confusion. We'll talk about what's working, what's not, and the science behind it. We'll do some myth-busting, and ask him the really tough questions about meats, grains, beans, coffee, sugar, salt, and so much more! And we'll look at different diseases that often get us, and what we can to do to prevent them, or at least hold them off. We'll even look at depression and what in the world food has to do with our mood! Plus we'll look at what Oprah Winfrey, Dr. Atkins, and the Incredible Hulk, have to do with anything. Self-Help and Self-Improvement Questions and Topics Include: How his grandma – Francis Greger-- survived after she was sent home to die. Nathan Pritikin, early lifestyle pioneer who claimed to reverse heart-disease with diet/lifestyle What was his biggest shock/surprise about med-school and what they did NOT teach. Why we can't listen to the cravings of our bodies because of the artificially created foods that are biochemically designed to make us crave them. What the global consensus as to the core principals of what we should eat and the science behind the nutrition What's the real cause of diabetes, type-2 diabetes and insulin resistance Why diabetes is taking 18 years off a child's life and what can be done about our kids health today. What the ONLY diet is that's scientifically proven to reverse heart-disease? What it means to eat a whole food plant-based diet? Why grains are not what you think What we can learn from queen bees and worker bees What is epigenetics and what's it's important to our health and nutrition How genes can suppress cancer growth Ornish and how we extend our ‘life fuse' or extend or enlarge our telomeres (cellular aging) Why reducing meat even for a few years can make a dramatic difference Why the microbiome is so cool and important How the microbiome affects our gut, affects, immunity, affects depression and moods Need prebiotics to feed our probiotics What are pre-biotics and why do we need them? What's the number one thing we want to do to prevent cancer? What's the most important thing to do to prevent cancer? Why processed meat is now considered a class 1 carcinogen What does a plant based diet really mean? What should we be eating on a day-to-day basis? The importance of getting enough vitamin D The importance of vitamin B-12 Prostate cancer avoidance – why we need to avoid chicken Why soy is great for you to prevent or survive breast-cancer Dr. Greger's on a Mission to Cure Heart Disease, Diabetes, Cancer, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, Depression, & More By Updating What We Eat! Hear This Fascinating Interview Filled with Science-Based Nutrition Tips from the Founder of NutrionFacts.org | Fitness | Health | Weight-Loss | Inspirational | Motivational | Self-Help | Self-Improvement | Inspire For More Info Visit: www.InspireNationShow.com  

If you're as confused as I am by all the nutritional claims and hype of different diets, fads, and trends, then do we have the show for you! Today we'll be talking with Dr. Michael Greger, founder of nutrionfacts.org, and an internationally recognized speaker on nutrition, preventive medicine, and our health and author of the acclaimed book, How Not to Die. Today we'll work to cut through some of the confusion. We'll talk about what's working, what's not, and the science behind it. We'll do some myth-busting, and ask him the really tough questions about meats, grains, beans, coffee, sugar, salt, and so much more! And we'll look at different diseases that often get us, and what we can to do to prevent them, or at least hold them off. We'll even look at depression and what in the world food has to do with our mood! Plus we'll look at what Oprah Winfrey, Dr. Atkins, and the Incredible Hulk, have to do with anything. Questions and Topics Include: How his grandma – Francis Greger-- survived after she was sent home to die. Nathan Pritikin, early lifestyle pioneer who claimed to reverse heart-disease with diet/lifestyle What was his biggest shock/surprise about med-school and what they did NOT teach. Why we can't listen to the cravings of our bodies because of the artificially created foods that are biochemically designed to make us crave them. What the global consensus as to the core principals of what we should eat and the science behind the nutrition What's the real cause of diabetes, type-2 diabetes and insulin resistance Why diabetes is taking 18 years off a child's life and what can be done about our kids health today. What the ONLY diet is that's scientifically proven to reverse heart-disease? What it means to eat a whole food plant-based diet? Why grains are not what you think What we can learn from queen bees and worker bees What is epigenetics and what's it's important to our health and nutrition How genes can suppress cancer growth Ornish and how we extend our ‘life fuse' or extend or enlarge our telomeres (cellular aging) Why reducing meat even for a few years can make a dramatic difference Why the microbiome is so cool and important How the microbiome affects our gut, affects, immunity, affects depression and moods Need prebiotics to feed our probiotics What are pre-biotics and why do we need them? What's the number one thing we want to do to prevent cancer? What's the most important thing to do to prevent cancer? Why processed meat is now considered a class 1 carcinogen What does a plant based diet really mean? What should we be eating on a day-to-day basis? The importance of getting enough vitamin D The importance of vitamin B-12 Prostate cancer avoidance – why we need to avoid chicken Why soy is great for you to prevent or survive breast-cancer Dr. Greger's on a Mission to Cure Heart Disease, Diabetes, Cancer, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, Depression, & More By Updating What We Eat! Hear This Fascinating Interview Filled with Science-Based Nutrition Tips from the Founder of NutrionFacts.org.  For More Info Visit: www.InspireNationShow.com  

Meet Denise Minger. Wait, no. That's not Denise.  This is Denise. The woman above Denise is a woman from a dietary study who lost 123 pounds in just shy of a year. She's not to be confused with the woman above her, who obliterated 278 pounds in a bit over a year. All on a 90-95% carbohydrate based, high-sugar, high-starch, low-fat diet. And that's just a peek into the contents of today's podcast. But back to Denise. Denise blogs at RawFoodSOS.com, where she just released the controversial article "" That particular article is exactly what we're going to be digging into this podcast... ...but Denise is no stranger to BenGreenfieldFitness.com. Last year, I published the article "", which contains many anecdotes from Denise's book "". As a self-described health blogger, Denise typically spends about five hours a day reading and writing about nutrition. In both her writings and lectures she has a reputation for aggressively challenging today's leading voices of conventional wisdom, and is perhaps most famous for her thorough refutation of "" book. Denise is considered to be a major thorn in the side of both mainstream nutritionists and other health figures who adhere to standard dietary dogma. During my discussion with Denise, you'll discover: -Why Denise doesn't drink coffee and eats lots of sushi and sashimi... -How in the process of redeeming fat, we traded one form of oversimplified blame for another... -What carbosis is, and why you need to be very careful mixing carbohydrates with fats... -Why our current definition of low fat is very flawed, and the more appropriate definition of what low fat actually is... -The low fat history you've probably never heard... -The shocking evidence that sugar and white rice can actually cure diabetes and melt fat off the body... -How decreasing "healthy" saturated fat and increasing intake of vegetable oils has been shown in baffling research to actually benefit conditions such as multiple sclerosis... -Why it's a myth that a low-fat, high-carb vegetable diet is what eventually killed researcher Nathan Pritikin.... -Why Denise has changed her mind about some issues she had with the documentary "Forks Over Knives", and why she apologizes to vegans and vegetarians... -And much more! Do you have questions, comments or feedback about high carb vs. high fat, and Denise's new take on a high carb, low fat diet? Your own thoughts to share? Leave it all  and either Denise or I will reply!

Special guest Denise Minger joins me to discuss her latest, epic blog post titled, IN DEFENSE OF LOW FAT: A CALL FOR SOME EVOLUTION OF THOUGHT. Topics include: the history of the low-fat diet, the Kempner Rice Diet, Lester Morrison, Roy Swank, Nathan Pritikin, Ancel Keys, whole foods diet vs. low-fat, Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn's cardiovascular disease studies, the reversal of heart disease, the dietary guidelines, holism vs. reductionism, "carbosis," as well as Denise's new consulting offering. There are Moment of Paleo and After the Bell segments, too. Links for this episode:This episode's home page with full, sectioned show notes and music credits.Listen to "Death by Food Pyramid" on Audible. Free 30-day trial.Latest in Paleo on Facebook - News hunters and gatherers post your links here.Angelo Coppola (@angelocoppola) | TwitterAngelo Coppola (@angelocoppola) • Instagram photos and videosThe Beer Bottle Shirt Project by PuraKai Clothing — KickstarterIn Defense of Low Fat: A Call for Some Evolution of Thought (Part 1) | Raw Food SOSRaw Food SOS | Rescuing good health from bad science.Denise Minger (@deniseminger) | TwitterDenise Minger on FacebookConsulting | Raw Food SOSThe China Study - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe China Study | Raw Food SOSRice diet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaLester Morrison; Pioneer in Diet, Health - latimesNathan Pritikin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaPritikin Weight Loss Resort & Spa | The Pritikin Longevity CenterThe Truth About Ancel Keys: We’ve All Got It Wrong | Raw Food SOSArticles & Studies | Dr. Esselstyn's Prevent & Reverse Heart Disease ProgramThe Plant Paleo Diet | – Humans Are Not BrokenVANDANA SHIVASponsored in part by PuraKai. Visit purakai.com to shop for eco-friendly clothing and stand-up paddle boards. Be sure to use coupon code "latest in paleo" for 15% off all clothing purchases.

Learn True "Clinical Pearls" from an Integrative Cardiologist Who Uses Diet, Supplementation and Medication to Prevent, Treat and Reverse Heart Disease Kirk Hamilton interviews Dr. Joe D. Goldstrich who graduated from the University of Texas Southwestern Medical School in 1964 and then trained as an internist, a cardiologist and later as a nutritionist and clinical lipidologist (cholesterol specialist). Early in Dr. Goldstrich's career he worked as the National Director of Education and Community Programs for the American Heart Association in Dallas, Texas. He also was the medical director of the Pritikin Longevity Center in California, working with nutrition pioneer Nathan Pritikin. He has written five books on nutrition and worked as the medical director of a major nutritional supplement manufacturer where he designed evidence-based nutritional supplements. Dr. Goldstrich utilizes a combination of diet, nutritional supplements along with medication to maximize the potential to maintain a healthy heart. Dr. Goldstrich is available for consultations at HealthyHeartConsultant.com. Download or Open: