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Amazon continues to expand its market leadership as the number one retailer of supplements ahead of even physical retail chains like Walmart. In the last year, Amazon has generated about $13 billion in categorical sales…up around 15% YoY. But the word "Amazon" also has created such a visceral reaction amongst much of the legacy supplement industry ecosystem. Depending on the person's perspective you're asking, you'll get a slightly different reason for why they blame Amazon for the demise of the supplement industry (or should I say the previous version of the supplement industry they are nostalgic about). See…what I noticed starting in the mid-2010s was a collection of legacy supplement industry stakeholders growing continually more frantic about changing power dynamics. In fact, fear was quickly building that any semblance of yesteryear's much tighter gatekept supplement industry ecosystem would soon be extinct. So, what do you do if you're a cash cow generating legacy supplement industry player losing your gatekeeping powers? You utilize those massive internal resources to put leverage on who you believe ruined the “good ole days.” In terms of “how” these legacy supplement industry stakeholders are deploying those massive internal resources against Amazon…it's both backchanneling and then public-facing "compliance marketing" strategy. Regardless, it all rolls up into these previous gatekeepers calling on Amazon to reign in supplement industry bad actors by suggesting the online marketplace implement more and more compliance hurdles. This effort was arguably successful twice in 2021…as Amazon updated its requirements for listing dietary supplements on the platform. But that doesn't appear to be enough…because there has been an uptick of public-facing pressure towards Amazon by these legacy supplement industry stakeholders. And even if Amazon hasn't responded yet…this strategy might have done one better by indirectly getting the FDA's attention, hence the three separate warning letters sent to Amazon from 8/18/23 to 12/20/23. But to help add some depth to the compliance side and balance my business perspective, I asked Brian Yam, who has two decades of regulatory affairs and quality assurance experience across every side of the supplement industry, to join me in a recent conversation. We deeply examined topics such as why the FDA is placing pressure on Amazon, if this could eventually lead to a market-bending precedent across today's retail models, why FDA might be more effective placing proxy enforcement pressure elsewhere, plus we go talk about the under the radar short- and long-term possible implications to all supplement industry stakeholders. FOLLOW ME ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS LINKEDIN - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuaschallmba⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YOUTUBE - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/c/joshuaschall⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TWITTER - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.twitter.com/joshua_schall⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ INSTAGRAM - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/joshua_schall⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FACEBOOK - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/jschallconsulting --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/joshua-schall/support

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Thanks for joining the conversation for 200 episodes of Irenicast!  In this episode the hosts answer your questions.  The topics range from the bible, hell, marriage and more.  After 7 years and 200 episodes the Irenicast team is still so thankful to helping provoke the progressive Christian imagination.  Here's to 200 more!   Thanks for Joining the Conversation Comments & Questions: #1 (01:58) - New Zealand Listener Audio Question#2 (08:29) - New Zealand Listener #2, Email#3 (13:24) - Recent Apple Podcast Review#4 (14:25) - Audio Question #2#5 (25:04) - Listener Email from Former Adventist#6 (32:36) - Listener Email from Florida#7 (39:06) - Final Audio Question#8 (46:10) - Listener Email from Washington#9 (51:27) - Anonymous Listener Email#10 (59:58) - Final Message ANNOUNCEMENTS As mentioned in the episode we are taking a short break from producing new episodes to prepare for future Intersection cohorts and classes.  But please stay connected while we are on another short break by subscribing to our email list.  Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! RELEVANT LINKS From Our Thanks for Joining the Conversation Q&A The Generational Divide – Special Guest Co-Host Selah Cluff – 193 Past episodes that are ‘salvation' adjacent Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One – Waking Up – 183 Atonement Theology Revisited – What's the Cross Got to Do with It? – 175 The Diversity of Christian Theologies – What Straight Old White Guys Don't Tell You – 136 The Evolution of Satan – Details in the Devil – 086 Why Did Jesus Die? – Standing at the Foot of Atonement Theology – 059 Heaven and Hell – Get the Hell Outta Here – 018 Haystacks Podcast (Bonnie & Rajeev's podcast for former Adventists) Past episodes concerning the Bible Cosmology Shapes Our Theology – A Chaotic Journey – 138 The Nature of Biblical Texts – Wholly Scripture, Batman! – 004  Interpreting the Bible Part 1 – Literally Literature – 063 Interpreting the Bible Part 2 – A Scribed Meaning – 064 Interpreting the Bible Part 3 – Collecting Lenses – 065 A Generation of Sociopaths: How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America by Bruce Cannon Gibney (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS   Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com.   Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org   Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.   Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

One thing that tends to get left out of many conversations on deconstruction is atheism and agnosticism.  Why is this?  Even when it is brought up, it is rarely spoken of as an ending point.  Why is that?  Can our deconstruction lead us to atheism and agnosticism?  Is that ‘okay'?  Spoilers, we think it is. In this episode the Irenicast hosts discuss the important space atheism and agnosticism hold for so many on their journeys.  Perhaps what we believe is less important than how we hold those beliefs.  Fundamentalism can rear its ugly head in any ideology, god or no god.   And in the spirit of irony, the hosts close out the episode by sharing the Top 3 things they are against.  And in Irenicast fashion, not all of the hosts understand the assignment. Conversation on Atheism and Agnosticism (02:12)Top 3 Segment (41:31) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Send us Your questions, comments and/or encouragements for our upcoming 200th episode!   You can reach out on all of our social media platforms Facebook, Twitter and Instagram   Or better yet!  Email us an audio clip to podcast@irenicast.com!  Please include your name and what state or country you're from.   RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Atheism and Agnosticism Brian McLaren & Rev. Dr. Penny Nixon – The Age of Secular Christianity – 155 (Irenicast Episode) Waking Up: A Guide to Spirituality Without Religion by Sam Harris (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Christopher Eric Hitchens (A British-American author, journalist, orator and columnist) Richard Dawkins (A British evolutionary biologist and author) Josh McDowell (An evangelical Christian apologist and evangelist) Pluralism – You Be You, Unless You're a Hobbit – 139 (Irenicast Episode) Another Conversation with Jennifer Knapp – Theology, Music and Sous Vide – 125 (Irenicast Episode)  From Our Top 3 Segment Tenet (2020 Film) Why Americans still avoid MSG, even though its ‘health effects' have been debunked (article) University Of California Reaches Final Decision: No More Standardized Admission Testing SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.  AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

War and Christianity are certainly not strangers.  In fact, they seem pretty friendly many of the times.  In this episode Bonnie, Rajeev and Jeff discuss the complicated history of war and Christianity.  A discussion that seems especially timely considering the current invasion of Ukraine. The conversation starts by acknowledging the ample examples of divine mandated war in our religious text.  To which, the wide path of Biblical interpretations has come up with many theological ‘theories' on war and peace.  Bonnie specifically lays out a great overview of the history of the peace movement in America from her studies to lay the foundation for the remainder of the episode. After sharing a little about their journeys through their thoughts and beliefs about war, the discussion delves deeper into pacifism.  There soon seems to be a quick distinction between theory and reality.  Struggling with questions like: What amount of privilege has led to your thoughts on war and peace?  What does pacifism and non-violence look like on the ground when it is no longer a thought exercise?  Are there moral absolutes when discussing war and violence?  Is there movement on the spectrum of violence and oppression and peace and pacifism? And speaking of things that are better in theory, we introduce a new segment called Connect the Dots to close the episode.  Conversation on War and Christianity (02:44)Connect the Dots Segment (42:33) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Send us Your questions, comments and/or encouragements for our upcoming 200th episode!   You can reach out on all of our social media platforms Facebook, Twitter and Instagram   Or better yet!  Email us an audio clip to podcast@irenicast.com!  Please include your name and what state or country you're from.   RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on War and Christianity William Lloyd Garrison Leo Tolstoy John Howard Yoder John Howard Yoder's Sexual Misconduct Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7 NRSV) Dietrich Bonhoeffer: Resistance and Execution Just War Theory West Nickel Mines School Shooting (Shooting in Amish Community) From Our Connect the Dots Segment Karate Kid (1984 Film) Beverly Hills Cop (1984 Film) What is Love? – The Space Between – 191 (Listen to the segment in this episode for context on ‘Kibbles and Bits') SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).  MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on TwitterLike Us on FacebookListen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloudSpeak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook GroupSee Us on InstagramSupport Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our StoreLove Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.   This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In this episode on queer legacy, Casey shares a recent revelation from a queer history class he has been taking.  He shares the history of the term two-spirit.  A term used by some to describe Indigenous North American people who fulfilled a traditional third-gender ceremonial and social role in their cultures.  As someone who is both queer and has Indigenous ancestry Casey expressed his deep sense of validation in his pastoral calling. Casey also takes this revelation and challenges us to take a new look at calling and purpose.  This shifts the conversation into challenging the ideas we've been given about calling and purpose.  Is calling for the few and capable or for all?  Is it something that happens to us or something we live into? The episode ends with a fun couple of rounds of Jesus Juke.  Listen to the end to find out just what it means to be a ‘Hot Tub Christian'.   Conversation on Queer Legacy (03:49) Jesus Juke Segment (36:59) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Send us Your questions, comments and/or encouragements for our upcoming 200th episode!   You can reach out on all of our social media platforms Facebook, Twitter and Instagram   Or better yet!  Email us an audio clip to podcast@irenicast.com!  Please include your name and what state or country you're from.   RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Queer Legacy Two-Spirit - A modern, pan-Indian, umbrella term used by some Indigenous North Americans to describe Native people in their communities who fulfill a traditional third-gender (or other gender-variant) ceremonial and social role in their cultures. LGBT history in Mexico Chickasaw (An indigenous people of the Southeastern Woodlands) Texas Governor Pushes to Investigate Medical Treatments for Trans Youth as ‘Child Abuse' (NYT Article) Florida House passes controversial measure dubbed the 'Don't Say Gay' bill by critics (NPR Article) History of LGBTQ Rights Cases In Iowa Ted Haggard Jesus Camp (2006 Documentary) Spanish Missions in California SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.  PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.   AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com.   Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org   Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema.   Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.   This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

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How do Eschatology and Process Theology fit together?  This week we try and answer that question by sitting down with Dr. Thomas Jay Oord.  Dr. Oord is an expert on Process Theology, also known as Open and Relational Theology. Many days it feels as though the end of the world is upon us.  This is even true for people across the proverbial aisle.  Although for much different reasons.  In this conversation we explore endings through a Process Theology lens. Will things get better?  Will there be an ultimate ending?  What is God's role, or lack thereof, in endings?  Listen and find out what Dr. Oord and the Irencast team have to say about Eschatology and Process Theology. ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Send us Your questions, comments and/or encouragements for our upcoming 200th episode!   You can reach out on all of our social media platforms Facebook, Twitter and Instagram   Or better yet!  Email us an audio clip to podcast@irenicast.com!  Please include your name and what state or country you're from.   RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Eschatology and Process Theology Dr. Oord's Latest Book: Pluriform Love: An Open and Relational Theology of Well-Being by Thomas Oord (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Dr. Oord's Book with Bonnie as co-editor: Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Church of the Nazarene (Evangelical Christian Denomination) Holiness Movement Cru (until 2011 known as Campus Crusade for Christ) (Interdenominational Christian parachurch organization) Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey   Left Behind   Lutheran Augustine of Hippo Alfred North Whitehead (English Mathematician and Philosopher) Charles Hartshorne (American philosopher) Matthew 16:24-26 NRSV (Take up cross to follow Jesus verse) ORTCon 2022 ORTLine 2022 MORE ON OUR GUEST THOMAS JAY OORD Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. Oord is a best-selling and award-winning author, having written or edited more than twenty-five books. He directs a doctoral program at Northwind Theological Seminary and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. A twelve-time Faculty Award-winning professor, he teaches around the globe. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, and the implications of freedom and relationships for transformation.  Check out his website at ThomasJayOord.com SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

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The problem with patriarchal Christianity may seem obvious to many listeners of Irenicast.  It is no surprise to us that patriarchy has done perhaps irrevocable damage to not just Christianity, but the nation as well.  We are seeing the ripples of that sad truth on every level in society. In this episode, three beneficiaries of the the f**ked up system we've come to know and loathe discuss ways we can lay aside our privilege to make room for others to lead.  It is not an easy task, and sometimes it seems like it is too little too late.  However, as Rajeev points out, there is still some hope left.  Is it enough to make a difference? And for our segment this week, Casey introduces the team to a new one called Bunker Buddies.  Since most days feel like the end of the world is here, we figure we would lean into it and share the items we would bring to the Irenicast bunker to wait out the apocalypse. Conversation on The Problem with Patriarchal Christianity (02:52)Bunker Buddies Segment (39:57) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation The Problem with Patriarchal Christianity A Conversation with Carolyn Baker, Author of Confronting Christofascism – 194 (Irenicast Episode) The Generational Divide – Special Guest Co-Host Selah Cluff – 193 (Irenicast Episode) Angela Dorothea Merkel (Chancellor of Germany from 2005 to 2021) Jacinda Ardern (Prime Minister of New Zealand) Malala Yousafzai (Pakistani Activist) Good Night Stories for Rebel Girls by Elena Favilli and Francesca Cavallo (Books - Amazon Affiliate Link) Landing Spot (Non-Profit Organization Helping LGBTQIA+ Teens in Sacramento, CA) Atlas of the Heart: Mapping Meaningful Connection and the Language of Human Experience by Brené Brown (Books - Amazon Affiliate Link) Confronting Christofascism: Healing the Evangelical Wound (Kindle Edition) by Carolyn Baker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Healing the Evangelical Wound: The End of Religious Authoritarianism by Carolyn Baker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Encanto (2021 Film) From Our Bunker Buddies Segment Bob's Burgers (Fox Animated Series) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.  PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In this episode Bonnie sits down and has a compelling conversation with Carolyn Baker PhD mostly about her newest book, Confronting Christofascism: Healing the Evangelical Wound.  It is no secret that since 2016 the United States has felt as though it is on its last legs as a democracy.  Carolyn shares with us many of her perspectives on why that is the case from her book. This conversation includes many of the things we are not supposed to talk about at the dinner table: religion and politics.  Specifically the marrying of fascism and a large portion of American Christianity.  Carolyn's revolutionary mindset is on full display when she expands on a terms like religious terrorism and her books namesake, Christofascism. ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation with Carolyn Baker Carolyn Baker (Website) Carolyn Baker (Author Page) Confronting Christofascism: Healing the Evangelical Wound (Kindle Edition) by Carolyn Baker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Healing the Evangelical Wound: The End of Religious Authoritarianism by Carolyn Baker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Billy Graham (American Evangelist) Josh Hawley (American Politician) Thomas Cotton (American Politician) Christopher Hedges (American journalist, Presbyterian minister, author and television host) American Theocracy: The Peril and Politics of Radical Religion, Oil, and Borrowed Money in the 21st Century by Kevin Phillips (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Leaving the Fold: A Guide for Former Fundamentalists and Others Leaving Their Religion by Marlene Winell (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Texas Senate Bill 8 (Texas Abortion Law) George Walker Bush (43rd President of the United States) Jimmy Lee Swaggart (American Pentecostal Televangelist) Comfortable with Uncertainty: 108 Teachings on Cultivating Fearlessness and Compassion by Pema Chodron (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Cloud of Unknowing (an anonymous work of Christian mysticism written in Middle English in the latter half of the 14th century) New Age Jungian Therapy The Hope: A Guide to Sacred Activism by Andrew Harvey (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Dietrich Bonhoeffer (German Lutheran pastor, theologian) James Finley (Clinical Psychologist and Author) The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe by Richard Rohr (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) MORE ON OUR GUEST CAROLYN BAKER Carolyn Baker's mission is to create islands of sanity in a sea of global chaos. This mission necessitates the development of a variety of emotional tools alongside a commitment to spiritual transformation. Through her multifaceted outreach via webinars, podcasts, live workshops, books, and articles, as well as one-on-one life coaching, Carolyn is touching the lives of thousands to assist them in deeply adapting and becoming resilient in the face of the unprecedented changes confronting humanity. Hundreds of people have worked with Carolyn in recent years to receive guidance around living and loving in turbulent times. Carolyn also offers spiritual counseling to provide meaning and purpose in a time of personal and collective suffering. Carolyn believes that one of the key tools we need for navigating the global crisis is solid information. For nearly a decade, Carolyn has published a comprehensive Daily News Digest, seven days per week unless she is traveling. This amazing, subscription-based newsletter contains key stories on economics, the environment, world news, civil liberties, civil unrest, and cultural trends—and contains a unique Inspiration section that offers options for responding to our planetary predicament. Carolyn graduated from Michigan State University, the University of Colorado, and Columbia Pacific University. She was a psychotherapist in private practice for eleven years and a college professor of psychology and history for ten years. Carolyn is the author of numerous books, and she lives and writes in Boulder, Colorado. For more on Carolyn Baker go to CarolynBaker.net SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

The generational divide in our country feels massive.  With the rise of Gen Z and the sentiment of ‘Okay Boomer', it doesn't feel as though one generation values the other.  If anything, younger generations especially are scapegoated for the direction our culture is taking.  In this episode we welcome Selah Cluff and as a member of GenZ to discuss this divide and explore how we might cross it. One of the first places this discussion goes is how each generation views the future and what cultural events define the generations represented. It is a wide road of experiences and events that shapes such diverse outlooks on the world and it's future.  You won't want to miss out on this conversation. And finally in an exercise of relevance, Selah quizzes the Irenicast hosts on current Gen Z slang.  Find out which of the Irenicast team is in the know and who is stuck in a moment. Introduction of Our Guest Co-Host, Selah Cluff (02:35)Conversation on The Generational Divide (08:29)Gen Z Slang Segment (56:22) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Generational Divide Conversation TheArriving (Selah's Podcast) Jon Batiste (American musician) Millennials Generation X Xennials Generation Z September 11 Attacks: Facts, Background & Impact Geroge W Bush (43rd President of the US) Barack Obama (44th President of the US) Cold War Geraldine Ferraro (First Female VP Nominee) Tamil (Dravidian ethno-linguistic group who trace their ancestry mainly to India's southern state of Tamil Nadu, union territory of Puducherry and to Sri Lanka) Space Shuttle Challenger (fatal accident in the United States' space program that occurred on January 28, 1986) Fishbone, Party at Ground Zero Attempted Assassination of Ronald Reagan The Columbine High School Shooting Sandy Hook School Shooting Oxford High School Shooting Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Shooting in Parkland, FL Back to the Future (1985 Film) Greta Thunberg (Swedish activist) Latchkey Kids Clarissa Pinkola Estés, Ph.D., Dangerous Old Woman: Myths and Stories of the Wise Woman Archetype AIDS Epidemic Making Due by Lake Street Dive Jonah Big Trouble in Little Sanchez (Rick and Morty Episode, S2E7) From Our Gen Z Slang Segment Yeet Simp Devious licks MORE ABOUT SELAH CLUFF AND HER PODCAST ‘THEARRIVING' Selah Cluff is a UC Davis of California student majoring in sustainable Agriculture and host of a podcast called TheArriving: A Podcast for Gen Z and Other Victims of Inexperience! This podcast intends to provide food for the soul, food for thought and food for growth. At TheArriving, it will illuminate answers to the questions that have already been found and strive to answer the ones still in hiding. This podcast is created with Generation Z in mind but it's totally cool if you are older or younger. At TheArriving we recognize that no matter how much amazingness or potential we have, we just can't know it all or do it all alone. So, this podcast will harvest, and freely share, the fruits of wisdom and experience of our elders with special guests and recurring features. Join her at TheArriving and begin learning, growing and thriving. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.   AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In Episode 192 Rebirthing Christmas - Virgin Mary Smashes the Patriarchy, Bonnie, Casey, Jeff, and Rajeev, discuss a broad range of feminist perspectives on Mary the mother of Jesus and virginity. Did ancient communities understand the concept of virginity through the lens of purity culture or did they hold a more sophisticated understanding of feminine power? We leaned towards the latter.  The Magnificat by Mary in the Gospel of Luke is discussed with great interest and reverence. It is a most powerful passage that is often omitted from most liturgies.  The conversation explores the fleshy, lived, experiences of women who have given birth, breastfed, and managed to carve out a place for themselves and their children in a patriarchal world. Ultimately we recognize the concept of virginity is a broad array of ideas and representative of feminine power that toxic-patriarchy has worked to suppress and control.  The segment “Don't Yuck My Yum” devolves into some gross recipe's that will surely taint your views on every host. And, twizzlers, have holes in them and someone owes someone some packs…juss-sayin.  Conversation on Rebirthing Christmas (01:56)Yuck or Yum Segment (47:08) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation Rebirthing Christmas Critical Essays Augustine's View of Sexuality Sojourner Truth (American abolitionist and women's rights activist) Princess Bride (1987 Film) Magnificat Virgin Martyrs Patch Adams (1998 Film) Call the Midwife (Netflix TV Show) From Our Yuck or Yum Segment Postum SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

What is love?  In this episode each host attempts to provide their definition of what they think love is.  It quickly becomes apparent that the concept of love is more difficult to pin down than expected.  Is love a feeling?  Is love an action?  Or is love where in between? And finally a new segment is introduced to end the show, Bad Advice Column.  This segment quickly goes off the rails and hilarity ensues and fun is had by all. Conversation on What is Love (02:35)Bad Advice Column Segment (35:55) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on What is Love 1 Corinthians 13 RuPaul (American drag queen, actor, model, singer, television personality, and author) Lady Bird (2017 Film)  From Our Bad Advice Column Segment Kibbles n' Bits SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

What is hope?  Christianity is filled with buzz words that we can easily take for granted or turn into catch phrases.  In this episode the hosts discuss one of those words, hope.  Hope can mean a lot of different things for different people.  It can also feel like a concept that is slowly fading from view in the current world we live in. Each host shares their current definition of hope.  This leads to a short detour into a discussion on hope's connection to the afterlife.  Given the hosts' evangelical pasts this is an important elephant in the room to acknowledge before a fuller view of hope can be obtained. The conversation eventually shifts to some of the more crucial elements in obtaining hope.  Wonder and gratitude quickly enter the mix as strong foundations for hope. The episode ends with a new segment from the mind of Rajeev.  The segment is called Buddy Bingo.  Get to know the Irenicast hosts better by learning a few of their ticks and consistencies in personality and most used catch phrases.  The process will 100 percent be worth it honey. Conversation on What is Hope? (00:46)Buddy Bingo Segment (46:19) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology!  Can creatures actually partner with God?  This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground.  Get Your Copy Today! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on What is Hope? Jesse Jackson (American political activist, Baptist minister, and politician) Fred Rogers (aka Mr. Rogers) Harvey Milk (American politician) The Book of Joy: Lasting Happiness in a Changing World by Dalai Lama, Desmond Tutu, and Douglas Carlton Abrams (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Alfred North Whitehead (English mathematician and philosopher) In Time (2011 film) From Our Buddy Bingo Segment Cold Open: Boyle Bingo Turkey Day Edition - Brooklyn Nine-Nine (YouTube Video) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

What is Faith?  Bonnie, Jeff, Casey, and Rajeev share perspectives that are found just beyond the edge of clarity - “objects” are visible but there is little certainty about what those objects might be. After all, faith is murky and shifty.  As the crew discusses the evolution of their personal faith journeys they confront each other by what is meant by faith and how the misunderstanding and misuse of the term has caused a lot of confusion within, and between, people.  The hosts delve into the realities, and tensions, of whether faith is a personal thing, a communal thing, neither, or both. True to the Irenicast way - you may have to decide this for yourself.  After a winding and personal conversation on faith, the team finishes off this episode with a round of “Faith Songs.” Brace yourself for some cringes, some “oh yea, that's my jam,” and “oh, hell to the no.”  And - if you are up for it, the hosts would love to hear your definition, understanding, experience, of faith. You can contact them at irenicast.com.  Thanks for listening. Conversation on What is Faith (00:52)Playlist Segment (36:56) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology!  Can creatures actually partner with God?  This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground.  Get Your Copy Today! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our What is Faith Conversation James 2:14-26 - New Revised Standard Version (Faith without Works Is Dead) Enneagram Hebrews 11 - New Revised Standard Version Hebrews (Wisdom Commentary Series Book 54) by Mary Ann Beavis and HyeRan Kim-Cragg (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Genesis 32 - New Revised Standard Version (Jacob Wrestles) Inspired: Slaying Giants, Walking on Water, and Loving the Bible Again by Rachel Held Evans (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)   From Our Playlist Segment You can get the fully crafted playlist on Apple Music and Spotify.  Note that Rajeev's pick, This is the Year of Losing Things by Tom Pradsa-Rao is not available on these music platforms.  To hear every song, below are YouTube links for all the songs mentioned in the episode. Rajeev's Picks Amazing Grace by Aretha Franklin He's Got the Whole World In His Hands by Mahalia Jackson We Are by Jon Batiste The Year of Losing Things by Tom Prasada-Rao Honorable Mention - Faith by George Michael Honorable Mention - Like a Prayer by Madonna Honorable Mention - Pray Enough by The Wood Brothers Casey's Picks Jesus Take the Wheel by Carrie Underwood I Hope You Dance by Lee Ann Womack Ironic by Alanis Morissette Everywhere by Tim McGraw Honorable Mention - Another Day from Rent Jeff's Picks Sitting On The Dock Of The Bay by Otis Redding The Day I Tried To Live by SoundGarden Somewhere Only We Know by Keane Cult of Personality by Living Colour Honorable Mention - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For by U2 Bonnie's Picks Landslide by Fleetwood Mac Unwritten by Natasha Bedingfield Roar by Katie Perry Hold On by Alabama Shakes Bandleader Jon Batiste (Fresh Air Podcast Episode) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. 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In Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Six the co-hosts explore the diversity of what community can be: quilting club, birdwatchers, family-groups (biological or chosen), faith community, and so many more.  While there is agreement that what a community looks like can vary greatly, the hosts have differing thoughts on the importance of belonging, responsibility, and duty.  Ultimately there is a recognition that there is no singular way to integrate past connections, present realities, and future possibilities, when it comes to community - but it is important work to do. In the segment, Two Truths and a Lie, we learn a little about the past lives of the community involvements of each host.  In the process we learn who is the best at lying.  Spoiler alert, it's Jeff. Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Six (01:18)Two Truths and a Lie Segment (45:28) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today. Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology!  Can creatures actually partner with God?  This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground.  Get Your Copy Today! RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Six Rev. Rosemary McCombs Maxey Seventh Day Adventism From Our 2 Truths and a Lie Segment YWAM Sacramento Leather Community MOPS SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENICAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Five, the multiverse of self, co hosts, Bonnie, Casey, Jeff, and Rajeev dive into the most uncomfortable and awkward of spaces “the self.”  The work and interview with Debbie Glander is referenced to remind us that our formation (childhood, puberty, adolescence) was not a solo project but many, in trusted positions, had major impacts on who we have become.  Each co-host still feels the lingering stings of being told we were sinful-to-the-core and the profound difficulty that creates when trying to trust oneself. This results in a reduction of the idea of self and a rejection of self as complex.  “It takes a lot of work to become truly oneself.” Bonnie The conversation explores the problems when “trusting self” is claimed in the “alternate facts, anti-vax, crowd;” and the difficulties social media imposes on all people.  Facing the “facts” about why we have come to certain conclusions may be the first real step to self discovery. It is essential for many of us to get professional therapy, not the “christian” counselor in the church basement.  A necessary developmental ingredient is the “deliciousness of adolescence” that many of us in the evangelical/fundamentalist world were denied. How were the decisions you made shaped? A possible way forward isn't a hollow reclamation of a rebellious youth but instead a wholly-process-of-grieving and of forgiveness of younger selves. Sometimes, the shadow side should be brought forward in order to disperse the controls in place that force us into gender roles and relational dynamics that serve to uphold the toxicity of “men as the head of everything.” A primary fallacy is that the self is fixed. We are not the sum total of our stories. And while Enneagram is helpful to self discovery, we must not be defined by our number. Self is a process, a moment by moment discovery. The journey should reject “conformity equals unity” and lean into respectful conflict between authentic self-moments in order to get anywhere real.  And maybe find things to have gratitude for along the way.  And finally, ever wonder what a “train wreck of a segment” sounds like - take a listen. Each host takes a well known and well loved story and shares a synopsis - the other hosts try to guess the title of the work.  “Dazed and Uncomprehending” is suggested as the title for a handbook on men.  Ya...it's a mess but an endearing mess. Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Five (02:08)Title Me This Segment (42:21) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Join Casey's Enneagram Class starting TOMORROW, October 6th at 7pm PT via ZOOM.  This 3-week class is absolutely free, just sign up by emailing Casey at pastor@loomisucc.org. Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology!  Can creatures actually partner with God?  This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground.  Get Your Copy Today! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Five The Series So Far… Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One – Waking Up – 183 (Part 1 also includes a portion of our interview with Debbie Glander mentioned at the beginning of this episode) Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Two – Becoming Less Dangerous – 184 Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Three – Flying Through the Soup On a Treasure Hunt – 185 Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Four – The Rob Bell is Full of Sh*t Spectrum – 186 Erik Erikson's Stages of Psychosocial Development What Does Christmas Mean to You? – The Great Birth Narrative Debate – 181 Quanita Roberson – Grief, Healing and Hope – 169 From Our Title Me This Segment Quest of the Highlander by Cynthia Wright  E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982 Film) Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy Love and Death on Long Island (1997 Film) Frankenstein by Mary Shelley  Stand By Me (1986 Film) The Body by Stephen King Twilight by Stephenie Meyer The Song of Lunch (2010 Film) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. 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In Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part 4 the hosts discuss the voices that helped them reconstruct some semblance of belief… or non-belief.  The legend and public persona of Rob Bell unexpectedly becomes the yardstick that each host measures their rebuilding experiences against.  Each host shares a ton of resources and voices that helped them in their movement away from fundamentalist authority.  Some that became irrelevant and others that still ring true today. The episode finishes with the revival of an old segment formerly known as Jesus or Jay-Z and now rebranded as Friday Night or Sunday Morning.  Each host guesses if a set of lyrics is from a ‘christian' or ‘secular' musician. Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Four (01:26)Friday Night or Sunday Morning Segment (44:07) ANNOUNCEMENTS Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology!  Can creatures actually partner with God?  This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground.  Get Your Copy Today! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Four Rob Bell (American author, speaker and former pastor) N.T. Wright (English New Testament scholar, Pauline theologian and Anglican bishop) Walter Brueggemann (American Protestant Old Testament scholar and theologian) Harold Camping (​​American Christian radio broadcaster and evangelist) Bart Ehrman (American New Testament scholar) John Dominic Crossan (Irish-American New Testament scholar, historian of early Christianity, and former Catholic priest who was a prominent member of the Jesus Seminar) Frontline Series from Jesus to Christ Donald Miller (American author, public speaker, and business owner) Philip Yancey (American author) What's So Amazing About Grace by Philip Yancy (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Anne Lamott (American novelist and non-fiction writer, progressive political activist, public speaker, and writing teacher) Paul Ricœur (French philosopher) John Milbank (English Anglican theologian) Radical orthodoxy (Christian theological and philosophical school of thought which makes use of postmodern philosophy to reject the paradigm of modernity) Renita Weems (Ordained minister, a Hebrew Bible scholar, and author) Gustavo Gutiérrez (Peruvian philosopher, Catholic theologian, and Dominican priest, regarded as one of the founders of Latin American liberation theology) We Drink from Our Own Wells: The Spiritual Journey Of A People by Gustavo Gutierrez (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) From Our Friday Night or Sunday Morning Segment Christian Rock Hard (ninth episode of the seventh season and the 105th overall episode of the American animated series South Park) Semi-Charmed Life by Third Eye Blind Touch Me Lord Jesus Medicine Man by Keb' Mo' Deconstruction by Justin McRoberts Life Is Sweet by Natalie Merchant Holy by Justin Beiber Jesus, Baby - South Park     SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. 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In Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Three, the Irencast crew try desperately to come up with suitable metaphors for the ‘Dark Night of the Soul' stage in deconstruction.  Since each host had such different experiences the task becomes difficult, which leads to a beautiful discussion on why these moments cannot be boiled down to a formula. We all experience our faith journey differently, and while there are some commonalities, we cannot prescribe a specific way out for any one person.  Sometimes we need to sit, listen and just experience certain moments in life.  This conversation is emblematic of that truth. The episode ends with the return of an old segment, formerly known as Jesus or Jay-Z.  Rebranded as Friday Night or Sunday Morning.  Each host shares some song lyrics that could be taken as either ‘Christian' or ‘secular'.  The other hosts decide where they stand and per usual the segment degrades into some good old fashion banter. Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Three (02:16)Friday Night or Sunday Morning Segment (43:03) ANNOUNCEMENTS Get Bonnie's New Book - Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology!  Can creatures actually partner with God?  This book answers that question... in the affirmative. The responses vary and the proposals provoke new insights. Along the way, the ideas break new ground.  Get Your Copy Today! Intersections is a group of un-fundies and exvangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, Rajeev and Jeff.  Our next session will be Thursdays, February 3rd through March 10th at 7pm PT.  Register today. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Three St John of the Cross (Spanish Catholic priest, mystic, and a Carmelite friar of converso origin) Dark Night of the Soul (Poem by St John of the Cross) Smallville (CW Television Show) Hook (1991 Film) Healing Through the Dark Emotions: The Wisdom of Grief, Fear, and Despair by Miriam Greenspan (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) From Our Friday Night or Sunday Morning Segment DC Talk (Christian Rap/Rock Group) Audio Adrenaline (Christian Rock Group) The O.C. Supertones (Christian Ska Band) Uh, Did a Former Member of Audio Adrenaline Threaten a Doctor Because He Called for Mask Mandates? (Article) Michael W. Smith (Contemporary Christian Singer) Bad Motorfinger (1991 Soundgarden Album) Casey's Worship Playlist The Young Messiah Five Iron Frenzy (Christian Ska Band) Insyderz (Christian Ska Band) Switchfoot (Christian Rock Band) Third Day (Christian Rock Band) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).   MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. 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In Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Two, the discussion centers around the aftermath of waking up.  What do you do with the shame, regret and anger of living in a high control environment?  Each host shares their journey through that cloud of emotions. Being gracious with yourself, finding a safe place to express anger and learning to listen are some of the lessons learned by our hosts in their waking up aftermaths.  They also explore how those manifestations of waking up can be connected to our place in this world.  Race, gender and sexual identities can play a big part in what we feel we are “allowed” to feel or express.  Triggers are also talked about as important revelations about our own assumptions. The episode concludes with our Overrated/Underrated segment.  The segment leads into a detailed tiered system that Jeff has devised on restaurants.  Some lines are drawn in the sand during this segment and we hope that in the end you will stay with us :)  Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Two (00:59)Overrated/Underrated Segment (32:12) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign up for our email list and get the full interview Bonnie conducted with Debbie Glander, LMFT. To learn more about Intersection and sign up for our next session go to TheIntersections.Space RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Two Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One – Waking Up – 183 (First Irenicast Episode in This Series) The Velvet Rage: Overcoming the Pain of Growing Up Gay in a Straight Man's World, Second Edition by Alan Downs (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) From Overrated/Underrated Our Segment In-N-Out Burger Five Guys Shake Shack Denny's Waffle House Zaxby's David Makes Man (OWN TV Show) The Handmaid's Tale (Hulu TV Show) The Mandalorian (Disney+ TV Show) Ted Lasso (Apple TV+ Show) Divine Cinema (Podcast) Brisket Tri Tip 'Revenge Travel' Will Be All The Rage Over The Next Few Years SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.   AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One explores the first movement in someone's journey toward change, waking up.  To lay the groundwork, not only for this episode but the episodes to come in this series, each host shares some of the experiences that put them on the path of deconstruction.  Because of the benefit of highsight, insight is given into the difficulty and eventual freedom in the deconstruction process.  Toward the end of the main conversation we share a relevant portion of an interview with Debbie Glander, LMFT.  Debbie's insights into the negative effects of many fundamentalists communities is invaluable. The episode closes with a segment called This or That.  Once again during the segment Jeff and Rajeev enter into their timeless battle about what makes pizza pizza.  Progressivism and Fundamentalism once again do battle on the cheesy field of goodness. Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One: Waking Up (01:06)Portion of Interview w/ Debbie Glander, LMFT (30:14)This or That Segment (41:52) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign up for our email list and get the full interview Bonnie conducted with Debbie Glander, LMFT. To learn more about Intersection and sign up for our next session go to TheIntersections.Space RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One: Waking Up Saved (2004 Film) Matrix (1999 Film) Intersections Roundtable – A Community of EXvangelicals and UNfundies – 113 (Irenicast Episode) More about Intersections Mr. Burns (Simpsons Character) From Our This or That Segment Every Night is Pizza Night by Kenji Lopez-Alt (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)   MORE ON DEBBIE GLANDER, LMFT Debbie is a licensed marriage and family therapist maintaining a private practice in Davis, California. She has received her undergraduate degree in Social Work at California State University of Sacramento and graduate degree in counseling from The University of San Francisco.  Personal commitment to her own growth and transformation has inspired her to specialize in working with individuals and families as a Psychotherapist. Her therapeutic approach is to provide support and feedback to help clients regulate their emotions and express their needs in healthy and adaptive ways. Her practice is dedicated to building a relationship with clients that is based on respect, empathy, professionalism and honesty. Visit Debbie's website for more on her work. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.  PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.   AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.   This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Since we've been gone a lot has happened in the world.  An election, an insurrection, a vaccine, a new president, and a whole lot of the same old crap in the world.  Things have also changed for the hosts of Irenicast.  A lot of personal and professional shifts in addition to planning new stuff for Irenicast.  In this come-back episode, we will be discussing all things Irenicast as we move forward into a new era of the show.  We hope that you continue with Irenicast as we unpack the notions of Deconstruction and Reconstruction over the next several episodes. Thank You, Allen (01:02)Upcoming Episode Preview (03:22)Intersections (03:35)Since We've Been Gone - 2020/21 Year in Review (07:21)Thank You (13:04)More Coming (15:37)   ANNOUNCEMENTS A new virtual Intersections group will be starting Wednesday, August 18th at 7pm PT for 6 weeks every Wednesday night.  Intersections is a group of un-fundies and ex-vangelicals meeting to support each other and process our evolving faith journeys. Gatherings are facilitated by Bonnie, Casey, and Rajeev.  REGISTER HERE to be a part of our next Intersections group. Sign up here for our email list and get regular updates on episodes, courses, and new sessions of Intersections. RELEVANT LINKS From Since We've Been Gone Intersections Roundtable – A Community of EXvangelicals and UNfundies – 113 (First Irenicast Episode with Bonnie, Casey & Rajeev) Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) - Beyoncé 1+1 - Beyoncé White Supremacy in Evangelicalism – Hidden in Plain Sight – 170 (Irenicast Episode) Haystacks (Bonnie & Rajeev's Podcast) Divine Cinema (Jeff's Podcast) The Enneagram and Progressive Christianity – Two Two's and A Four Walk Into A Bar – 127 (Irenicast Episode)  SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expenses related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).   MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.   AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music was created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

What Does Christmas Mean to You? Join the hosts of Irenicast as they ponder the birth narrative, and the multiple ways that the story of Jesus' birth has been told and understood over the years.   Jeff invites the team to consider what Christmas means to them this year. The conversation begins with each of the cohosts pondering what it has been like to try to find Christmas cheer in 2020. The conversation slowly moves from finding cheer into a discussion about how each cohost interprets the story of Jesus' birth.  Bonnie invites the team to recognize the importance of birth narratives and the centering of children and women's voices. Before the episode finished the team shares some news about the future of the podcast.  Irenicast will be taking a short hiatus to focus on the next phase of the show.  But not before leaving you with some Christmas cheer via a brand new virtual mix tape in the closing segment, Playlist. Conversation What Christmas Means To You (02:52) State of the Podcast Special Announcement (46:03) Segment Top Three Christmas Songs of 2020 (57:43) ANNOUNCEMENTS Irenicast is going on a break for the first few months of 2021.  Please make sure you stay up to date on what we’re preparing upon our return!  The best way to do that is to sign up to our email list. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on What Does Christmas Mean to You? American Gods (STARZ TV Show) Magnificat, Luke 1:46-55 NRSV Christopher Nolan (American Film Maker) Batman Begins (2005 Film) The Dark Knight (2008 Film) The Dark Knight Rises (2012 Film) Australia Fires Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth by Reza Aslan (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Above All by Michael W. Smith Literary Criticism Sojourner Truth (American abolitionist and women's rights activist) Neo-Calvinism From Our State of the Podcast Update and Upcoming Break Sign Up for Our Email List Haystacks The Queerly Faithful Pastor Divine Cinema From Our Playlist Segment Playlists from Past Episodes An Angry Journey (Irenicast Playlist) Protest Songs (Irenicast Playlist) Irenicast Christmas 2020 Playlist on Spotify All I Want For Christmas by Mariah Carey Blue Christmas by Elvis A Charlie Brown Christmas - O Tannenbaum O Holy Night by Patti LaBelle Home Alone Theme by August Burns Red White Christmas by Bing Crosby Hippopotamus for Christmas by Gayla Peevey The Christmas Song by Nat King Cole O Come O Come Emmanual by the Civil Wars I Wish It Was Christmas Today by Cheap Trick Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays by *NSYNC Christmas in Hollis RUN DMC The Season’s Upon Us by Dropkick Murphys Waltz of the Flowers What Child is This by Yolanda Adams Christmas Blues Traveler A Song From SNL: I Wish It Was Christmas Today - SNL (YouTube Video) Home Alone (1990 Film) Christmas Shoes Bit by Patton Oswalt SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen “The Mouse King” O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MDiv, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Discovering your authentic self is something that can seem like a vague or cliche notion.  Is there a balance between authentic inner life and authentic communal life?  Where are the tensions?  What does it even mean to be your authentic self?  These are some of the questions explored in this episode as Allen, Bonnie, Jeff & Rajeev discuss the difficult task of figuring out our place in this insane world. Self awareness and our relation to one another become prominent talking points during this conversation.  Self reflection, along with a solid community, can be powerful allies in our journeys toward peace about who we are and what we are becoming. The episode closed with a new segment called One of These Things IS Like The Other.  A game where two things are compared to a completely different thing.  Don’t worry, when you listen it’ll make a lot more sense. Conversation on Your Authentic Self (00:51) Segment (47:39) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation Your Authentic Self Keeping It Real Can Go Very Wrong - Chappelle’s Show (YouTube Video) A Hidden Wholeness: The Journey Toward an Undivided Life by Parker Palmer (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Brene Brown (Research Professor, Author, Podcaster) Pema Chödrön (American Tibetan Buddhist) Parenting – Simple Word, Infinite Implications – 173 (Irenicast Episode) Be Right Back (Black Mirror Episode) Maslow's hierarchy of needs The Guest House by Jalaluddin Rumi (Poem) Lojong (Mind Training Practice in the Tibetan Buddhist) Spiral Dynamics From Our One of These Things IS Like the Other Segment Taylor Swift (Pop Artist) Six Flags Magic Mountain SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In response to a listener question about God’s immutability, all five co-hosts discuss a changing God. The conversation begins with the God of the bible before it turns toward the God of human experience. Co-hosts reflect on the groups that might benefit from a fixed or static God and those groups that might benefit from a God who is impacted (and therefore changed) by a relational life with creation. Rajeev wonders about God ideas as connected to the ego. The conversation includes an exploration of various God narratives and systems. Are there “right” ideas about God? To close, Bonnie proposes consideration of how a changing God opens up an uncertain future. Now what? Co-hosts agree. They may need to follow-up with another episode. If you can take in a few other calamities (real and unreal) to round out 2020, listen to the end to hear the segment: Church Signs. It turns out coming up with a creative church sign is harder than it sounds. Conversation on Changing God (00:51) Church Signs Segment (48:20) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Changing God? Open & Relational Theology Irenicast Roundtable – The Art of Oversharing – 135 (Irenicast Episode) Creeds Ontological Argument was proposed by St. Anselm of Canterbury Augustine of Hippo Martin Luther John Calvin Moral Truth – Relative or Reality? – 166 (Irenciast Episode) Gnostic Gospels The Truth Series (Irenicast Episodes) What Is Truth? – Spilling the Capital Tea – 165 Continuing the Conversation on Episode #165 – What is Truth – 165b Moral Truth – Relative or Reality? – 166 Continuing the Conversation on Moral Truth – 166b Who Tells the Truth? – Rajeev’s Three R’s – 167 Continuing the Conversation on Who Tells the Truth – 167b Changing Truth – An Ever Evolving Journey – 168 Continuing the Conversation on Episode #168 - An Ever Evolving Truth - 168b Alfred North Whitehead Carl Jung Who Tells the Truth? – Rajeev’s Three R’s – 167 (Irenicast Episode) From Our Church Signs Segment The End of the World As We Know It? – Arma-gettin’ It On – 045 (Irenicast Episode) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

The episode begins by framing some language around stages of spiritual development. Co-hosts take a trip down memory lane as they dig up developmental language from their former faith communities and from broader American culture. The conversation continues with the inclusion of helpful models as well as critiques of developmental theory. While discussing spiral dynamics and various approaches to understanding development, co-hosts agree - no approach to human or spiritual development is universal. The conversation turns to the ways we internalize shame in relation to our interpretation of the progress we are making toward some idealized goal. Allen brings in Sam Keen’s model of growth stages outlined in his book The Passionate Life. This leads to further insights on levels of consciousness, moving forward and backward, existential crisis, individual versus communal movement and how it all may be related to an acceptance of finitude. In the final stage of this episode, co-hosts play a lively game of Classy and Trashy. Because, you know, that’s how we shake our booties. (It will make sense if you listen to the end.)  Conversation on (00:00:50) Segment (01:03:43) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Stages of Spiritual Development 1 Corinthians 3:2 NRSV (Meat & Milk Passage) Spiral Dynamics Eugenics Enneagram Charles Hartshorne (American Philosopher) Erik Homburger Erikson (German-American Developmental Psychologist and Psychoanalyst) St John of the Cross St Teresa of Avila The Passionate Life: Stages of Loving by Sam Keen (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Before a fatal shooting, teenage Kenosha suspect idolized the police (Article) Bundy Stand Off On the Mystery: Discerning Divinity In Process by Catherine Keller  (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Death of the Mythic God: The Rise of Evolutionary Spirituality by Jim Marion (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Kenneth Earl Wilber II (American Philosopher) Robert Kegan (American Developmental Psychologist, Author, and Consultant) From Our Classy or Trashy Segment Austin Channing Brown (Author) Author Austin Channing Brown – I’m Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness – 118 (Irenicast Episode) U2 (Band) Coldplay (Band) Mumford and Sons (Band) Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988 Film) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links:   Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Episode Notes Jake Chambers – a hero with the initials JC – is the only one who can save the tower, which serves as the foundation for the entire multiverse – a compelling set up to the astonishingly short Dark Tower from 2017. 4250 pages are distilled here into a tight 95 minutes that is entertaining and well acted but bears nearly no resemblance to the source material. We talk Dark Tower, fantasy and the distaste for it among horror readers, McConaughey's vibes, the lies about age Hollywood tells us, and how awesome Jackie Earl Haley is. Recommendations: Vivarium (available on Amazon) Next up: It (2017) Email us at latecomers@gmail.com Twitter: @latecomerspod Find Amity @ www.amityarmstrong.com and @AmityArmstrong on Twitter Our Facebook group is here for those who consent: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1754020081574479/ Find out more at https://the-latecomers.pinecast.co This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

All five co-hosts grab some tea, full of compassion for one another, to talk about awakening compassion. The conversation begins with definitions and connections to spirituality. Since everyone thinks compassion is a good thing, co-hosts wonder how we become more compassionate. By awakening? By watering a seed inside of ourselves? Through training?  The conversation turns to a Christianity informed by compassion. Allen brings Tibetan Buddhism and tonglen breathing practice into the space. Bonnie brings in an Orthodox Christian breathing practice. Connecting breath and compassion, co-hosts discuss the possibility of a compassion-centered Christianity. It turns out compassion is a rather divisive, controversial idea within Christianity. Co-hosts’ formation and evolving Christian identity become exposed in interesting ways. Co-hosts realize the effects of being formed within Christianity communities that disavow Christ’s vulnerability and woundedness are still present in them. The episode closes with a rousing round of Sound Charades. It’s obvious the cups of tea (and perhaps, compassion) have grown cold as co-hosts compete to the bitter, disputed end.     Conversation on Awakening Compassion (00:59) Sound Charades Segment (55:12) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation, Awakening Compassion The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe by Richard Rohr (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Saint Francis of Assisi (Wiki) Meeting Jesus Again for the First Time: The Historical Jesus and the Heart of Contemporary Faith by Marcus J. Borg (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Tonglen Matthew 25:31-46 NRSV - The Sheep and the Goats Park J Palmer (American author, educator, and activist) Wage Peace by Judyth Hill (Poem) Start Where You Are: A Guide to Compassionate Living by Pema Chodron (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) From Our Sound Charades Segment Word Generator SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Amazon has new ways to watch games with additional commentary options, more content during the week on Prime Video and Twitch and real-time and on-demand replays with X-Ray Next Gen Stats and live insights. Michelle McKenna, the NFL’s Chief Information Officer, discusses the league’s partnership with Amazon Web Services (AWS), the origins of Next Gen … Continued

Amazon has new ways to watch games with additional commentary options, more content during the week on Prime Video and Twitch and real-time and on-demand replays with X-Ray Next Gen Stats and live insights. Michelle McKenna, the NFL's Chief Information Officer, discusses the league's partnership with Amazon Web Services (AWS), the origins of Next Gen Stats and the evolution of data and technology... Source

Casey and Bonnie have a heart to heart on the topic of abortion. They begin by sharing their experiences with abortion, planned parenthood, anti-choice protestors and sexuality education. Casey shares his mom’s story. Bonnie shares her own. Co-hosts take an incredulous look back in time at the attitudes about abortion they inherited from their formative evangelical and fundamentalist Christian communities. Bonnie and Casey consider the opportunistic way the oppressive forces of male supremacy and patriarchy infused with American evangelical Christianity after Roe v. Wade.  Using biblical references, co-hosts propose a basic moral framework to ground an actual “pro-life” stance rather than an “anti-choice” stance when deciding whether or not to continue a pregnancy. Bonnie insists that it is safe for society to trust women with their own uteruses. Casey agrees. To close the episode, co-hosts lament the legacy of shame so many women who chose abortion continue to live with. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Abortion Donald Trump's Track Record with Reproductive Rights John 4 NRSV (Woman at the Well) John 8:1-11 NRSV (Woman Caught in Adultery) The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism by Katherine Stewart (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Power Worshippers: A look inside the American religious right Governor Reagan Signs Liberal California Abortion Law Equal Rights Amendment Jesus Camp The Strange Bedfellows of the Anti-Contraception Alliance (article) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

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At the terrific suggestion of a listener, the Irenicast crew takes up the Atonement Doctrine for round 2 in Atonement Theology Revisited. The episode begins with each co-host picking up from where we left off in Episode #59 - Why Did Jesus Die? The conversation does not last long before the question of Sin enters the room. Then co-hosts explore how Jesus’ death on the cross fits into the theological categories of Sin and Atonement. The conversation meanders through the lineage of Western Christianity which dealt us the inheritance of a particular understanding of Atonement in which violence becomes sanctified. Co-hosts continue by connecting White Supremacy, Patriarchy, Militarism, and Policing to a neat and tidy, albeit violent, vision of one bloody sacrifice for all. Co-hosts reconstruct the Passion story sans Atonement doctrine before each describing the evolution of their own Atonement Theologies.   The episode closes by bringing back the segment: Sort of Scattergories. You might be surprised at how lint finds its way into the darndest places.    Intersections Announcement (00:39) Conversation on Atonement Theology Revisited (02:07) Sorta-Scattergories Segment (57:58) INTERSECTIONS - Registration Opens Wednesday, September 16, 2020 Intersections is brave space where ex-vangelicals and unfundies come together to have spiritual conversations about their experiences of unraveling faith.  Intersections is facilitated by Irenicast co-hosts, Bonnie Rambob, Casey Tinnin and Allen O’Brien, who have been there and get it. In community, participants will process, evaluate, feel, support and be supported.   Session 1 -- My Story Meets Your Story  Session 2 -- God and the Bible  Session 3 – Me, Myself and I: Relationship with Self  Session 4 -- Purity Culture and Sexuality  Session 5 -- Spiritual Trauma and Grief  Session 6 -- Gratitude for the Journey  New Intersections Group forming now: Thursdays, October 8 – November 12, 5:00-6:30 PM, PST. Space is limited. $120 for the whole series. (If that is a hardship, please let us know.)  You can REGISTER HERE, starting Wednesday, September 16, 2020 RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation Atonement Theology Revisited Why Did Jesus Die? – Standing at the Foot of Atonement Theology – 059 (Irenicast Episode) Don’t Understand This Sean Feucht Controversy? Stop Talking & Listen (Article) What is Sin ? – Dun Dun Duuunn – 015 (Irenicast Episode) Alfred North Whitehead (Process Theologian) The Cross and the Lynching Tree by James H. Cone (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)  Matthew Shephard Call and Consequences: A Womanist Reading of Mark by Raquel Annette St. Clair (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Satisfaction Theory of Atonement (Made Popular by Anselm of Canterbury) Ruby Nell Sales (African-American Social Justice Activist) Who Tells the Truth? – Rajeev’s Three R’s – 167 (Irenicast Episode) From Our Sorta-Scattergories Segment Kim's Convenience (Netflix Show) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).   MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In this interview Casey draws out wisdom carried by his friend Tenneson Woolf. Tenneson is a consultant, facilitator, workshop leader, coach, teacher, and writer. Keeping an eye on our collective global pandemic experience, Casey and Tenneson talk religion, human spirituality, and questions of who we are and who we want to be. They acknowledge profound challenges stirred up by the novel coronavirus and wonder about the gifts those challenges, courtesy of the virus, might have to offer us.  The conversation includes an indepth look into the formation of Tenneson’s most recent book, A Cadence of Despair: Poems and Reflections on Heartbreak, Loss and Renewal. Together Casey and Tenneson explore the contours of despair and its close cousin: shame.  Tenneson offers insights, lessons and liberation found within the courageous descent into dark, closed, fearful interior spaces. As Tenneson says, “Humans find medicine there.” The episode ends with a beautiful, honest and resonant poem from Tenneson’s book along with Tenneson’s reflection.  This is an episode that will feed you as well as require something of you… all of it reaching toward our deepest spiritual yearnings. THANK YOU TENNESON WOOLF Tenneson Woolf is a consultant, facilitator, workshop leader, coach, teacher, and writer. His work over 20+ years has been to design and lead meetings in participative formats. From strategic visioning with boards to large conference design to communities just learning to listen again to one another. His education background includes an undergraduate degree in psychology and a graduate degree in organizational behavior. His work lineages include The Berkana Institute with Margaret Wheatley, The Circle Way with Christina Baldwin and Ann Linnea, and The Art of Hosting with Toke Moeller and Monica Nissen. Originally from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, Tenneson now lives in a small town where urban meets rural, Lindon, Utah, on the traditional lands of the Utes and Goshutes, in a high desert valley at the foot of the Wasatch Mountains. To learn more about Tenneson Woolf and his work check out his website, TennsonWoolf.com.  You can also follow him on Facebook and Twitter. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation with Tenneson Woolf Tenneson Woolf’s Website Human to Human Podcast with Casey Tinnin — Pastor, Community Activist, Friend (Casey’s appearance on Tenneson’s podcast) Quanita Roberson – Grief, Healing and Hope – 169 (Irenicast Episode) The Fire and Water Podcast (Tenneson Wolf and Quaninta Roberson’s podcast) A Cadence of Despair: Poems and Reflections on Heartbreak, Loss and Renewal by Tenneson Woolf (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Power of Vulnerability: Teachings of Authenticity, Connection, and Courage by Brené Brown PhD (Amazon Affiliate Link) CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION As a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity to give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST on Facebook Live and YouTube Live. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In this episode, Jeff, Bonnie and Rajeev take on the topic of parenting. They begin with their definitions of parenting before moving into the struggles of parenting. Co-hosts notice how parenting children often triggers a return to the parent’s own process of growing up. They reflect on the grief involved in the transitions from one stage of the child’s development to another. Co-hosts consider the influence their parents’ parenting-style has had on their own, for better or for worse. They discuss the need to shed expectations of their kids as well as themselves as parents. Because... mistake-making is classic parenting, and yet because we love our truly amazing kids, we trust they will be okay. The episode includes a deeper dive into the stage of parenting through adolescence. Of course adolescence cannot be discussed without talking about youth group and all the axillary parents -- pastors, teachers, coaches, aunties, uncles and others -- that primary parents rely upon as collaborative parenting partners. As with adolescence, co-hosts observe parenting as a time for significant theological/spiritual growth and discovery. In keeping with the times, co-hosts share their thoughts about schooling during a time of pandemic. The pandemic lens seems to shine brightly on the many ways the American education system could use reform. On the other side of the music, Jeff, Bonnie and Rajeev share their all-time favorite family TV shows. Gather up the kiddos. Pop the popcorn. We got your next family show viewing experience covered. Conversation on Parenting (01:15) Top 3 Segment (53:23) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Parenting Deconstructing with Kids – Two Young Adults Tell Their Parents What’s Up – 142 (Irenicast Episode) Defund the Police? How About Defunding the Schools Instead? From Top 3 Our Segment Bob's Burgers (Fox Animated Sitcom) Little House on the Prairie Married with Children The Best Sitcom of the Past 30 Years, Round One: The Cosby Show vs. The Simpsons Ugly Betty Smallville Good Times One Day at a Time Remake Community Black-ish Gentefied All in the Family Transparent The Carmichael Show CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION As a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity to give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST on Facebook Live and YouTube Live. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.   AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Rajeev and the Rev. Dr. Miguel De La Torre converse about belonging, sexism, racism, pluralism, immigration, internal integrations and synthesis, violence, hope and hopelessness, the climate of Trump’s America and more in this packed episode that is right on time! Rajeev and Miguel close out the conversation with Over/Under that leads to more gems of insight and personal story.  Conversation with Rev. Dr. Miguel De La Torre (01:55) Over/Under Segment (50:11) MORE ON REV. DR. MIGUEL DE LA TORRE Rev. Dr. Miguel A. De La Torre, Professor of Social Ethics and Latinx Studies at the Iliff School of Theology in Denver, Colorado.  He has served as the elected 2012 President of the Society of Christian Ethics and served as the Executive Officer for the Society of Race, Ethnicity and Religion (2012-17). Dr. De La Torre is a recognized international Fulbright scholar who has taught courses at the Cuernavaca Center for Intercultural Dialogue on Development (Mexico), Indonesian Consortium for Religious Studies (Indonesia), University of Johannesburg (South Africa), Johannes Gutenberg University (Germany). Additionally, he has lectured at Universidad Bíblica Latinoamericana (Costa Rica), The Association for Theological Education in South East Asia (Thailand) and the Council of World Mission (Mexico and Taiwan). Advocating for an ethics of place, De La Torre has taken students on immersion classes to Cuba and the Mexico/U.S. border to walk the migrant trails. Among multiple yearly speaking engagements, he has also been a week-long speaker at the Chautauqua Institute, and the plenary address at the Parliament of World Religions De La Torre has received several national book awards and is a frequent speaker at national and international scholarly religious events and meetings. He also speaks at churches and nonprofit organizations on topics concerning the intersection of race, class,  gender, and sexuality with religion. Stay up to date on De La Torre’s work by checking out his website: DrMiguelDeLaTorre.com RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation with Rev. Dr. Miguel De La Torre Sublime - Santeria (Official Video) Elegua, African Trickster Burying White Privilege: Resurrecting a Badass Christianity by Miguel A. De La Torre (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Spirit of Hope: Theology for a World in Peril by Jürgen Moltmann (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Trial of God by Elie Wiesel (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) From Our Over/Under Segment Muhammad Ali ¡Coño! (But With A Swing) by La Cocodrila (De La Torre’s Wife’s Jazz Album) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).   MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

This is the audio from our Continuing the Conversation on White Supremacy in Progressive Christianity on Facebook and YouTube Live.  Jeff and Rajeev take thoughts and questions from listeners about episode #171.  Catch these conversations the Monday’s after each regular episode at 5pm PST. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Continuing the Conversation on White Supremacy in Progressive Christianity Multiracial Congregations May Not Bridge Racial Divide (Article) Celeste Williams (Congressional Candidate in Arkansas) IRENCAST FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live and YouTube Live. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff is going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).   MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

The conversation begins with co-hosts’ varying views on white supremacy in progressive Christianity. From there the talk turns to progressive Christian purity codes, boundary training and other forms of white-centeredness. Co-hosts take an honest look at the average progressive white Christian’s struggle with following POC leaders though they say they want to. There is discussion on the evangelical and progressive Christian responses to the Black Lives Matter movement with speculation about the future. Toward the end of the conversation, co-hosts wonder about the impact of white supremacy on white people’s souls. Does progressive Christianity have a framework for understanding a suffering soul? How do white progressive Christians #BreakUpWithWhiteJesus? Co-hosts offer some thoughts on ways to disrupt white supremacy in progressive Christian circles. Listeners, this is an all-hands-on-deck moment. We’d love to hear your ideas on co-creating a racially-just church and world. For those who make it all the way through, you will hear co-hosts’ curate a playlist of protest songs.  Jeff agrees to take the song selections and craft a musical journey.  His inner elitist gets the better of him and he mansplains that there is a *right* way to make a playlist.   Conversation on White Supremacy in Progressive Christianity (00:01:26) Playlist Segment (01:00:36) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on White Supremacy in Progressive Christianity The Reformation at 500: Grappling with Martin Luther's anti-Semitic legacy Irenicast Episodes about Whiteness Continuing the Conversation of White Supremacy in Evangelicalism – 170b White Supremacy in Evangelicalism – Hidden in Plain Sight – 170 Conversation on Race – A Kick in the Walls – 134 Evangelicals Shift Progressive in Proximity to Whiteness – With Special Guest Joey Torres – 121 Robert’s Rules of Order Minneapolis City Council Votes To Abolish Police Force White Guy Jesus Meme From Facebook Police: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) This city disbanded its police department 7 years ago. Here's what happened next (Article) Holy Post - Race in America (YouTube Video by Veggie Tales Creator, Phil Vischer, on Race) Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie (2002 Film) The Diversity of Christian Theologies – What Straight Old White Guys Don't Tell You – 136 (Irenicast Episode)   From Our Playlist Segment Anger Playlist from Episode #164 (Spotify) Poor People’s Campaign Songbook Koolulam | One Day - Matisyahu | Haifa | Feb. 14th, 2018 (YouTube Video) Protest Songs Playlist (Spotify)  Honorable Mentions Just a Girl by No Doubt (Bonnie) IRENCAST FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).  MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.   AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

This is the audio from our Continuing the Conversation on White Supremacy in Evangelicalism on Facebook and YouTube live on Monday, July 13, 2020 at 5pm PST.  For this conversation Bonnie and Casey are on assignment and Rajeev, Jeff and Allen field listeners' questions and thoughts.  You can watch the video by going to our Facebook page or YouTube channel. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Continuing the Conversation on White Supremacy in Evangelicalism Haystacks (Bonnie and Rajeev’s new podcast for fringe, questioning, ex or former Seventh-Day Adventists)  Miss America (Netflix) Southern Baptist Convention The Poisonwood Bible: A Novel by Barbara Kingsolver (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The life and death of John Chau, the man who tried to convert his killers (Article about a missionary attempting to convert the inhabitants of an island in the Indian Ocean.  Rajeev mentioned this story in our conversation) The 1619 Project Freedom for Immigrants (Organization) IRENCAST FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff is going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity to give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Co-hosts begin this raw and real conversation about white supremacy in Evangelicalism by reflecting on their experiences of white supremacy in their formative churches. Memories arise from Awana, mission trips, seminary and other church settings. Co-hosts recall witnessing the pervasive project to marginalize people of color across all aspects of their formative church life. The white co-hosts marvel that with all the talk of sin, never did that talk include racism. The conversation dips into topics like colonialism, school/church integration and the invisibility of whiteness. Rajeev shares his immigrant experience of being taught to master the white code so that he might be ready for opportunity. Co-hosts wonder (in the tradition of Maya Angelou) - when we know better, how do we do better? The discussion includes a variety of responses including breaking up with white Jesus, sinking into deep grief, questioning the space of church and American Christianity’s potential for redemption. At Jeff’s suggestion, the Irenicast crew agrees to extend the conversation for another episode by taking it into an arena a little closer to home: white supremacy in progressive Christianity. Listen through the segment to hear what co-hosts would… but. Then join the movement to get Casey on Queer Eye. Conversation on White Supremacy in Evangelicalism (00:59) I Would But Segment (59:28) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on White Supremacy in Evangelicalism Martin Luther and Antisemitism (Wiki) Election Night - SNL Sketch w/ Dave Chapelle (YouTube Video) School Integration in the United States (Wiki) Bob Jones University Drops Interracial Dating Ban Ellen G. White (7th Day Adventism Founder) Southern Baptist Convention (Wiki) Frederick Douglass (American social reformer, abolitionist, orator, writer, and statesman) Quanita Roberson – Grief, Healing and Hope – 169 (Irenicast Episode) From Our ‘I Would But’ Segment Loving Day IRENCAST FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).   MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In our continuing the conversation on Quanita Roberson’s episode the full cast reflects on the firehose of wisdom in episode #169.  The Irenicast team specifically centers their conversation on collective grief and the value in calling on our ancestors.  If you’d like to see the video replay of this conversation you can do that on Facebook and YouTube. MORE ON QUANITA ROBERSON Quanita Roberson is a facilitator dedicated to addressing embedded trauma. She is a spiritual teacher, speaker, author, life coach, and a storyteller. Her work over the past 20 years has been focused in the areas of healing, initiation, grief, leadership, diversity, and inclusion. Recent work has included work with The Kellogg Foundation’s, Truth, Racial Healing, & Transformation Program and People’s Action’s Heartland Initiative: A Listening Tour of Rural and Small Town America. She has a background in Organizational Management and Development with a concentration in Integral Theory which has supported her in looking at the world in a more holistic way.  ​She lives in Cincinnati, OH with Her two children. She is inspired by the Ohio River and the stories of freedom that were birth from here. Check out all of Quanita’s work on her website, nzuzu.com.  You can also follow her on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram RELEVANT LINKS From Our Continuing the Conversation on Quanita Roberson Facebook Replay YouTube Replay Quanita Roberson – Grief, Healing and Hope – 169 (Irenicast Episode) Quanita Roberson Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019 Film) IRENCAST FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Casey and Bonnie sat down with spiritual teacher, speaker, author, life coach, storyteller and shaman Quanita Roberson to talk about the strange and fertile time of this present moment.  If you have felt moments of despair in these tumultuous times, listen to hear Quanita’s wisdom. As herself, she offers embodied hope. MORE ON QUANITA ROBERSON Quanita Roberson is a facilitator dedicated to addressing embedded trauma. She is a spiritual teacher, speaker, author, life coach, and a storyteller. Her work over the past 20 years has been focused in the areas of healing, initiation, grief, leadership, diversity, and inclusion. Recent work has included work with The Kellogg Foundation’s, Truth, Racial Healing, & Transformation Program and People’s Action’s Heartland Initiative: A Listening Tour of Rural and Small Town America. She has a background in Organizational Management and Development with a concentration in Integral Theory which has supported her in looking at the world in a more holistic way.  ​She lives in Cincinnati, OH with Her two children. She is inspired by the Ohio River and the stories of freedom that were birth from here. Check out all of Quanita’s work on her website, nzuzu.com.  You can also follow her on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation with Quanita Roberson Quanita Roberson The Medicine Wheel Teachings Tenneson Woolf In Over Our Heads: The Mental Demands of Modern Life by Robert Kegan  (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants by Robin Wall Kimmerer  (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Landing Spot The Matrix Reloaded (2003 Film) Malidoma Patrice Somé (Writer) The Lord of the Rings - Two Towers (2002 Film) The Lord of the Rings - Return of the King (2003 Film) Iron John: A Book about Men by Robert Bly (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Soul's Code: In Search of Character and Calling by James Hillman (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) IRENCAST FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

This week we are continuing the conversation on Changing Truth and officially wrapping up our 4 part truth series.  This is the audio from our live conversation with listeners on Facebook and YouTube.  Thank you to everyone who participated.  We had some great comments and questions.  Check us out on Facebook and YouTube the Monday after each regular episode at 5pm PST. ANTI-RACIST RESOURCE LIST This list is an evolving anti-racist resource list, and consists of material we have found helpful in our journey into anti-racism.  To view the update list please visit Irenicast.com/AntiRacist.  To recommend resources to be added to the list please email us at podcast@irenicast.com. In addition to the informational resources below, you can also go to Ways You Can Help for information on real steps you can take to make a difference wherever you are.   Books I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness by Austin Channing Brown Just Mercy: A Story of Justice and Redemption by Bryan Stevenson We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy by Ta-Nehisi Coates The Cross and the Lynching Tree by James H. Cone Race Matters by Cornel West Stamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America by Ibram X Kendi The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration In The Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander What Movies Teach About Race: Exceptionalism, Erasure, and Entitlement by Roslyn M. Satchel Dear Church: A Love Letter from a Black Preacher to the Whitest Denomination in the US by Lenny Duncan Beyond Inclusion, Beyond Empowerment: A Developmental Strategy to Liberate Everyone by Leticia Nieto Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates Raising White Kids: Bringing up Children in a Racially Unjust America by Jennifer Harvey All the Colors of the Earth by Sheila Hamanaka Black is Brown is Tan by Arnold Adoff Two Mrs. Gibsons by Toyomi Igus   People to Follow Austin Channing Brown (Author) Tori Williams Douglass (Anti-Racist Educator, Founder of White Homework) Andre Henry (Musician, Artist, Podcaster, Activist) Nikole Hannah-Jones (Journalist)   Podcasts Hope & Hard Pills Intersectionality Matters Code Switch Truth’s Table   Films/Videos The Next Question (Web Series) 13th (2016 Netflix Documentary) Blindspotting (2018 Film) Get Out (2017 Film)   Organizations Black Lives Matter Showing Up For Racial Justice Ida B. Wells Society Understanding Race   Curriculum White Privilege Curriculum from the UCC   Articles & Other Resource Lists An Antiracist Reading List by Ibram X. Kendi on books to help America transcend its racist heritage. (New York Times Article) Educate Yourself: An Essential Anti-Racism Reading Guide by Dan Ahwa (Viva Article) None of the links on this list will use our Amazon Affiliate links.  If there is anything on this list to be purchased they will be linked to POC owned businesses or to the author’s own site. FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Continuing the Conversation on Changing Truth The Truth Series so Far What Is Truth? – Spilling the Capital Tea – 165 Continuing the Conversation on Episode #165 – What is Truth – 165b Moral Truth – Relative or Reality? – 166 Continuing the Conversation on Moral Truth – 166b Who Tells the Truth? – Rajeev’s Three R’s – 167 Continuing the Conversation on Who Tells the Truth - 167b Changing Truth - An Ever Evolving Journey - 168 Beyond Inclusion, Beyond Empowerment A Developmental Strategy to Liberate Everyone by Leticia Nieto (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Aurora police ban carotid pressure holds, maneuver used to restrain Elijah McClain, who died after encounter (Denver Post Article) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Our truth series is wrapped up this week with a deeply personal conversation on changing truth.  Everyone on this show, and the vast majority of our listeners, have experienced a truth change.  Many times we refer to that process as deconstruction.  A term that reflects a reality we all share, but that falls short of communicating the depth and heartache involved in the process of changing truth. Bonnie starts the conversation with the question, “What was it like for you to wake up one morning and know you were not operating with the same set of beliefs?”  The answers get personal and lead to an unexpected reminder of the privilege inherent in questioning truth.  Race, gender and sexuality can be a huge catalyst for how traumatic a truth revision can be. As the group continues to share it also becomes apparent that representation in our education into new truths is paramount.  It helps us see ourselves so that we can better see others.  We are not on this journey alone. This episode closes with a round of Famous Christians for 100.  Each host has provided a quote from a ‘famous’ ‘christian’ and the others need to tap their vast knowledge of Christian culture to guess the source.   Conversation on Changing Truth (00:04:23) Famous Christians for 100 Segment (01:08:15) ANTI-RACIST RESOURCE LIST This list is an evolving anti-racist resource list, and consists of material we have found helpful in our journey into anti-racism.  To view the update list please visit Irenicast.com/AntiRacist.  To recommend resources to be added to the list please email us at podcast@irenicast.com. In addition to the informational resources below, you can also go to Ways You Can Help for information on real steps you can take to make a difference wherever you are. Books I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness by Austin Channing Brown Just Mercy: A Story of Justice and Redemption by Bryan Stevenson We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy by Ta-Nehisi Coates The Cross and the Lynching Tree by James H. Cone Race Matters by Cornel West Stamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America by Ibram X Kendi The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration In The Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander What Movies Teach About Race: Exceptionalism, Erasure, and Entitlement by Roslyn M. Satchel Dear Church: A Love Letter from a Black Preacher to the Whitest Denomination in the US by Lenny Duncan Beyond Inclusion, Beyond Empowerment: A Developmental Strategy to Liberate Everyone by Leticia Nieto Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates Raising White Kids: Bringing up Children in a Racially Unjust America by Jennifer Harvey All the Colors of the Earth by Sheila Hamanaka Black is Brown is Tan by Arnold Adoff Two Mrs. Gibsons by Toyomi Igus People to Follow Austin Channing Brown (Author) Tori Williams Douglass (Anti-Racist Educator, Founder of White Homework) Andre Henry (Musician, Artist, Podcaster, Activist) Nikole Hannah-Jones (Journalist) Podcasts Hope & Hard Pills Intersectionality Matters Code Switch Truth’s Table Films/Videos The Next Question (Web Series) 13th (2016 Netflix Documentary) Blindspotting (2018 Film) Get Out (2017 Film) Organizations Black Lives Matter Showing Up For Racial Justice Ida B. Wells Society Understanding Race Curriculum White Privilege Curriculum from the UCC Articles & Other Resource Lists An Antiracist Reading List by Ibram X. Kendi on books to help America transcend its racist heritage. (New York Times Article) Educate Yourself: An Essential Anti-Racism Reading Guide by Dan Ahwa (Viva Article) None of the links on this list will use our Amazon Affiliate links.  If there is anything on this list to be purchased they will be linked to POC owned businesses or to the author’s own site. FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Changing Truth The Truth Series so Far What Is Truth? – Spilling the Capital Tea – 165 Continuing the Conversation on Episode #165 – What is Truth – 165b Moral Truth – Relative or Reality? – 166 Continuing the Conversation on Moral Truth – 166b Who Tells the Truth? – Rajeev’s Three R’s – 167 Continuing the Conversation on Who Tells the Truth - 167b Memoir of a Gay Pastor – Closets and Calling – 131 (Irenicast Episode) Jeremiah 20 (CEB) The Pagan Christ: Is Blind Faith Killing Christianity? by Tom Harpur  (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Adventures in Missing the Point: How the Culture-Controlled Church Neutered the Gospel by Brian D. McLaren & Tony Campolo (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) N.T. Wright (New Testament Scholar) Liberation Theology Just a Sister Away: Understanding the Timeless Connection Between Women of Today and Women in the Bible by Renita J. Weems (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Dance of the Dissident Daughter: A Woman's Journey from Christian Tradition to the Sacred Feminine by Sue Monk Kidd (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Death of the Mythic God: The Rise of Evolutionary Spirituality by Jim Marion (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Our Religions: The Seven World Religions Introduced by Preeminent Scholars from Each Tradition by Arvind Sharma (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Five Stages of the Soul: Charting the Spiritual Passages That Shape Our Lives by Harry R. Moody (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Holy Envy: Finding God in the Faith of Others by Barbara Brown Taylor (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Autobiography of Malcolm X by MALCOLM X (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Gustavo Gutiérrez (Peruvian philosopher, theologian, and Dominican priest regarded as one of the founders of liberation theology) We Drink from Our Own Wells: The Spiritual Journey of a People by Gustavo Gutierrez (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Rob Bell (American Author and Speaker) Pema Chödrön's Compassion Cards: Teachings for Awakening the Heart in Everyday Life Cards by Pema Chodron (Amazon Affiliate Link) Love Wins by Rob Bell (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Evangelicals Shift Progressive in Proximity to Whiteness – With Special Guest Joey Torres – 121 (Irenicast Episode) Samwise Gamgee (Fictional Character from The Lord of the Rings) From Our Famous Christians for 100 Segment Jeopardy (America Game Show) John Piper John MacArthur Franklin Graham Pat Robertson Carman Desmond Mpilo Tutu (South African Anglican Cleric, Theologian and Nobel Prize Winner) C.S. Lewis Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis (Book - AMazon Affiliate Link) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Once again we are Continuing the Conversation on Who Tells the Truth, episode 167.  For this edition Bonnie, Jeff, Rajeev, and showing up a little late to the party, Allen, expand their thoughts on who tells the truth.  A couple of the topics explored are research methods and tradition.  Listen here or watch this conversation on Facebook or YouTube.  FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. RELEVANT LINKS From Continuing the Conversation on Who Tells the Truth The Truth Series so Far What Is Truth? – Spilling the Capital Tea – 165 Continuing the Conversation on Episode #165 – What is Truth – 165b Moral Truth – Relative or Reality? – 166 Continuing the Conversation on Moral Truth – 166b Who Tells the Truth? – Rajeev’s Three R’s – 167 Balaam’s Donkey from Numbers 22-24 SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.   AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Talk of truth continues with an exploration of trusted sources of truth. Co-hosts wonder what makes us think something is true. Since the printing press and ensuing Reformation, have we been programmed to think the truth can only be told through the printed word? Co-hosts share their stories of questioning the fundamental truths handed to them by the authorities in their former lives. The conversation turns toward the differences between facts and truth. Each co-host reveals their personal discernment processes. Rajeev’s truth discernment strategy is so good, Casey writes it down. As the conversation unfolds, co-hosts discover their experiences of truth shifting as a superpower. They vow to dedicate one more episode to truth, continuing the series. Next time the conversation will focus on changing one’s truth - something Irenciast co-hosts and listeners alike can speak to with authority. Wait until after the music to hear your new favorite conspiracy theory; ‘cause co-hosts share theirs. We dare you to resist following a newly forged google trail into conspiracy theory lalaland.   Conversation on Who Tells the Truth (47:50) Lie to Me Segment (01:18) FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Who Tells the Truth The Truth Series so Far What Is Truth? – Spilling the Capital Tea – 165 Continuing the Conversation on Episode #165 – What is Truth – 165b Moral Truth – Relative or Reality? – 166 Continuing the Conversation on Moral Truth – 166b Printing Press ‘Please don’t inject bleach’: Trump’s wild coronavirus claims prompt disbelief (Guardian Article) Gnats Inside the Wind by Rumi (Sufi Poet) From Our Lie to Me Segment Dyatlov Pass Incident Bigfoot DaVinci Code Jesus in India (2008 Documentary) Patmos Apocalypse Cave Avril Lavigne responds to rumours she died and was replaced by body double named Melissa (Independent Article)   SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).   MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

For our continuing conversation on moral truth (Episode #166) Allen, Bonnie, Jeff and Rajeev discuss the most recent episode with listeners live on Facebook and Youtube.  Some additional thoughts on moral truth are offered.  Specifically the dynamic between individual and systemic morality.  Thanks to everyone who participated in this continuing conversation.  Join us on May 25th at 5pm PST for our next conversation on episode #167. FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. RELEVANT LINKS from Continuing the Conversation on Moral Truth The Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Flight Behaviour by Barbara Kingsolver (Books - Amazon Affiliate Link) Outlander (Starz Television Series)   SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Because you can’t cover Truth in just one episode, all five co-hosts come back for round two on Moral Truth. Jeff begins the conversation with the annoying question of God and the Bible as the ultimate authority on morality. All of the co-hosts weigh in with excitement. After getting that question out of the way, the repartee between co-hosts weaves together thoughts on evolving moral truth, absolute evil, forming frameworks for ethics as well as criticism of conservative and liberal approaches to morals and ethics. The conversation moves between the world of ideas and the real world applications of those ideas. Undergirding the conversation are the questions: Where does the responsibility to develop morals/ethics reside? Is it the individual person’s responsibility? Is it the community’s responsibility? What guides can we rely upon to help navigate deconstructing one moral framework while rebuilding another moral framework? Process theology makes several appearances in this episode. One might even say it “robs” the show. Listen to the end to hear co-hosts play a new game invented by our own Pastor Casey, “This I Believe”. Spoiler alert: The Trump of pizza is revealed with talk of building a wall around pizza (gasp). Perhaps the broccoli-lovers of the world will pay for it. Conversation on (00:02:30) Segment (01:00:30) FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Moral Truth Alfred North Whitehead (Theologian) The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Everything That Rises Must Converge (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link - This book contains the short story “Revelation” by Flannery O’Connor that Bonnie mentions) From Our This I Believe Segment Tiger King (Netflix DocuSeries) Kenji Lopez-Alt (Chef) Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions by Edwin A. Abbott (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Triangles Taste Better SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In our very first in the Continuing the Conversation series we follow up on episode #165, What is Truth? - Spilling the Capital Tea.  Continuing the Conversation will be a limited run of Live events on Facebook and YouTube to expand on the previous episode and provide a platform to hear from you, our listeners. Join us on the Monday’s after each episode posts at 5pm PST on Facebook or YouTube or catch the replay on either platform. If you cannot join us live for these events please email us your questions and comments in advance at podcast@irenicast.com. To watch instead of listen go to our YouTube Channel. FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.   AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

What is truth? The co-hosts take on the little topic of truth. Capital “T” truth? Lowercase “t” truth? You decide. Given that none of us expected 2020 to bring a pandemic lockdown, it makes sense that Irenicast would quarantime to boldly enter a crisis of truth and reality. What can we claim to know as true? The conversation begins with an attempt at defining the nature of truth. Co-hosts discuss uncertainty, relationship to truth, views on reality and the relationship between truth and power. Who gets to decide what is true? Who benefits from a collectively accepted truth? The conversation turns toward pseudo-intellectualism and its hold on people. Co-hosts wonder about human agency, choosing one’s individual truth, human development, and ultimately the journey toward accepting “not-knowing” as a valid path. The episode ends where the next episode will begin - a discussion of moral truth. Is there a universal and pragmatic “right” and “wrong”? You will have to wait until the next episode for the answer to that question. However if you stay tuned until the end, you will not have to wait to hear about Rajeev’s naked escapades in a pick-up truck which he reveals (pun intended) in a rousing segment: Two Truths and a Lie.   Special Announcements (00:00:00) Conversation on What is Truth (00:03:28) 2 Truths and a Lie Segment (01:07:56) ANNOUNCEMENTS - FACEBOOK LIVE EVENTS During quarantime, we are offering additional ways to connect via Facebook Live.  You can find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/Irenicast On Thursdays, Casey will be popping on to share his thoughts on the week and let you know about what else might be happening with the show.  He is calling this time Thoughtful Thursdays. Every Sunday morning at 10am PST, Jeff and Rajeev are going to live to hangout.  It is a great opportunity to ask questions, share some of our favorite things and have a generally good time.  We’re calling it Sunday Mic Check. And finally, as a supplement to the podcasts we will be starting something called, Continuing the Conversation.  This will be an opportunity give your thoughts on the current Irenicast episode in addition to getting a preview for the next episode.  We will be doing this the Mondays after new episodes post at 5pm PST. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on What is Truth Cloud of the Impossible: Negative Theology and Planetary Entanglement by Catherine Keller Alfred North Whitehead “If you don’t occasionally contradict yourself your position isn’t near complex enough.” - Terance McKenna They Live (1988 Film) Imagine by John Lennon Emily Dickinson (American Poet) From Our 2 Truths and a Lie Segment John Kerry (American Politician & Presidential Candidate) Lizzo (American Singer) Lizzo Tiny Desk Concert God and Aliens – The Universe Doesn’t Revolve Around You, Probably – 032 (Irenicast Episode) Christina Aguilera (America Singer) Bo Jackson (American Athlete) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In this episode co-hosts juxtapose isolation and connection in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic. It begins with each co-host describing their own COVID coma as they shelter-in-place. Collectively the descriptions expose both connection and diversity in what has become a globally shared experience. The conversation turns toward learning and meaning-making. Co-hosts imagine the ways our shared life could be changed forever, for the better, like with a different attitude toward capitalism and health care. Along the way -- trigger warning -- co-hosts reflect on their fundamentalist backgrounds revealing how they might have responded to the pandemic if they were still in their former religious communities. Terms like “God’s protection,” “Christ’s coming,” “the end times” and  “prophecy” surface. Co-hosts reflect on the hidden loneliness embedded in having all one's “connections” controlled or managed through dogma. With a nice mix of disorientation, frustration, uncertainty, fear and isolation, all five co-hosts find their way through a conversation about an unfolding experience -- one that seems to change day by day, maybe even hour by hour, while befuddled experts tell us what to do and expect.  When life throws you a novel virus, you’ll need a good and angry playlist. Listen to the end to hear Jeff’s, Allen’s, Bonnie’s, Casey’s and Rajeev’s favorite angry songs. Conversation on Isolation and Connection (00:03:59) Playlist Segment (01:04:42) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Isolation and Connection The Trolley Problem The Good Place - The Trolley Problem (YouTube Problem) From Our Playlist Segment The Completed Spotify Playlist Casey’s Picks No Scrubs by TLC (YouTube Video) Lose Yourself by Eminem (YouTube Video) Not Ready to Make Nice by Dixie Chicks (YouTube Video) Bonnie’s Picks Gloria by Patti Smith (YouTube Video) Inside Out by Eve 6 (YouTube Video) Ironic by Alanis Morrisette (YouTube Video) Rajeev’s Picks Maggie’s Farm by Rage Against the Machine (YouTube Video) Drawing Flies by Sound Garden (YouTube Video) The Ghost of Tom Joad by Rage Against the Machine (YouTube Video) Allen’s Picks B.Y.O.B. by System of a Down (YouTube Video) Dukes Up by Modest Mouse (YouTube Video) Bodies by Drowning Pool (YouTube Video) BENNY HINN: Let The Bodies Hit The Floor (YouTube Video) Jeff’s Picks Dear God by Dax (YouTube Video) The Way I Am by Eminem (YouTube Video) Here’s To Us by Halestorm (YouTube Video) Other Mentions Killing in the Name of by Rage (YouTube Video) Billie Jean by Chris Cornell (YouTube Video) Forgiven by Alanis Morissette (YouTube Video) War Pigs by Black Sabbath (YouTube Video) Dear Mr. President by Pink (YouTube Video) So What by Pink (YouTube Video) Pork & Beans by Weezer (YouTube Video) Trans Musician - KC SHANE Singer, songwriter and musician KC Shane grew up in small town Indiana but in the spring of 2012 he decided to adventure out west and is currently based in Sacramento, CA. He has been singing his whole life and started writing and composing his own music in 2004 at age 14. Some of the words used to describe KC's music are hauntingly beautiful, powerful, emotional, and soulful. Many compare him to City & Colour, Hozier, Sam Smith, Stained, James Taylor and Tracy Chapman. KC is well known for his talents but is also known for being an out and proud transgender queer man. His most favorite compliment he has received is that his music is "good medicine." Bringing people together, building community, sharing the healing power of music and letting people know they are important and they matter are his ultimate goals when sharing his music with the world. KC Shane is releasing his first single "Empty Words" on January 1, 2020 which is available on all streaming services.  Follow KS Shane on Facebook and YouTube. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).   MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. 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Linda Midgett and Dr. Larycia Hawkins join the show this episode to discuss embodied solidarity via their new documentary film, Same God.  Dr. Hawkins’s Christian practice of embodied solidarity. In the documentary film Same God directed by Linda Midgett viewers follow the story of Wheaton College tenured professor Dr. Hawkins who wore a hijab in solidarity with Muslim women following the 2015 mass shooting in San Bernardino, CA. Dr. Hawkins’s act of embodied solidarity prompted her termination from Wheaton College. Dr. Hawkins shares a Christianity-grounded explanation of embodied solidarity in contrast to cultural appropriation. Co-hosts and guests talk white supremacy, identity politics, American Christianity and even go out of bounds into a meaningful discussion of Eucharist theology. The episode includes exclusive content -- something about make-up and broken mirrors. Listen to the end to hear Dr. Hawkins’s advice for those on a spiritual path that is leading into unchartered waters, sometimes far from home. Though the interfaith dimension of Linda Midgett’s and Dr. Hawkins’s work is evident in their film. In a time of American Christian division, they call out an intra-communal question: Do American Christians across the divide worship the same God? Take a listen and then share what you think. Conversation on Embodied Solidarity in the Film, Same God (02:54) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Embodied Solidarity Same God (2020 Film) Dr. Larycia Hawkins (Professor) Linda Midgett (Director, Producer, Writer) Wheaton College San Bernardino Shootings Council on American-Islamic Relations: CAIR James P. Carse (Author - Amazon Affiliate Link) MORE ON OUR GUESTS AND THE FILM, SAME GOD Same God - For information on how to find a screening near you, please visit SameGodFilm.com Laryica Hawkings -  Larycia Hawkins, PhD., is a scholar, a political science professor, and activist.  Professor Hawkins teaches and researches at the University of Virginia, where she is jointly appointed as Assistant Professor in the departments of Politics and Religious Studies; serves as a Faculty Fellow at the university's Institute of Advanced Studies in Culture; is a Contributor to the Project on Lived Theology; and co-convenes the Henry Luce Foundation project, Religion and Its Publics.  Follow Laryica’s work at her website, LaryciaHawkins.com or on Twitter, @LaryciaHawkins Linda Midgett - Linda Midgett is an Emmy award-winning writer, producer, and showrunner with a proven track record of developing hit and critically acclaimed series. She has directed, written and supervised more than 600 hours of programming for networks such as NBC-Universal, The History Channel, Discovery and National Geographic. Her credits include Starting Over, the syndicated daytime reality series produced by Bunim-Murray Productions, and The History Channel's iconic series, Gangland.  Follow Linda on Twitter, @MidgetProd SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). 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Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. 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What are you hungry for? If you're new around here, this is the first She’s Got Power book club meeting and our pick was Hunger by Roxanne Gay. This book gives perspective on what it's like to be overweight and struggle with feeling seen and understood. In this episode, we dive into the topics that this book brings up including how our bodies (big or small or otherwise) are subject to commentary from others and how health issues can arise from trauma.   You’ll hear about: Why Michelle chose this book for the book club Using cravings as a tool to create a better life for yourself  The next pick for the book club   Related links: This episode’s book club pick: Hunger by Roxane Gay on Amazon Next book club pick: The Middle Finger Project by Ash Ambirge on Amazon Episode mentioned: A Lifetime of Not Feeling Safe Get Michelle’s free Stress Assessment Quiz at http://shesgotpower.com/free   Connect with Michelle: ShesGotPower.com Instagram.com/shesgotpower

In this episode Casey dives right into talking redemption with Jay Bakker. Jamie Charles “Jay” Bakker is an American pastor, author and speaker. He is the son of televangelists Jim Bakker and Tammy Faye Bakker Messner. During his young adult years Bakker became disillusioned with mainstream Christianity, becoming particularly critical of Christian fundamentalism and the Christian right. He has pastored the Revolution Church in Minneapolis since 1994. Casey and Jay challenge and affirm each other as they exchange their perspectives on LGTBQ+ treatment by the church, the current political climate, the path to redemption and more. True to Irenicast form, this episode reveals the intermingling of diverse opinions within the unifying desire for wholeness. To have your thoughts provoked, take a listen. Conversation on Redemption with Jay Bakker (00:36) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Redemption with Jay Bakker Revolution Church Jim Bakker (American televangelist and former Assemblies of God minister) Tammy Fay Bakker Messner (American Christian singer, evangelist, author, talk show hostess, and television personality) Son of a Preacher Man: My Search for Grace in the Shadows by Jay Bakker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Fall to Grace: A Revolution of God, Self & Society by Jay Bakker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Faith, Doubt, and Other Lines I've Crossed: Walking with the Unknown God by Jay Bakker (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Evangelical Lutheran Church in America - ELCA Redemption (Dictionary Definition) Redemption Song by Bob Marley You Are Accepted by Paul Tillich RuPaul (American drag queen, actor, model, singer, songwriter, and television personality) Conversion Therapy – Praying the Gay Away – 150 (Irenicast Episode) Social Distortion (American punk rock band) Pride Month Celebration – Grand Marshal Pastor Casey and Trans Pastor & Author Rev. Lawrence T. Richardson – 144 (Irenicast Episode) MORE ON JAY BAKKER Jay Bakker lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where he is pastor of Revolution, a church that meets in a bowling alley and has a worldwide online audience. Jay speaks to congregations and other groups all over the country about faith, grace, and his experiences with the underbelly of life and Christianity. Jay has authored the books Fall to Grace, Son of A Preacher Man, as well as his most recent title, Faith, Doubt, and Other Lines I’ve Crossed: Walking with the Unknown God.  To stay connected to Jay Bakker’s work follow him on Twitter @jaybakker PARTNER WITH THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expenses related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.  PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

This week Jeff has a conversation with The Next Question co-hosts Chi Chi Okwu and Jenny Booth Potter.  The Next Question is a revolutionary web series where racial justice happens face-to-face. It dares to ask hard questions, listen, and then ask the next question. Chi Chi and Jenny, along with Austin Channing Brown, sit with intellectuals and artists, activists and historians, journalists and authors to expand our imaginations for racial justice. In this episode Chi Chi and Jenny discuss the process of starting a web series like this.  They share the highs and lows of everything from production, booking guests and all that goes into setting the table for hard conversations about race. It gets a little meta when Chi Chi, Jenny and Jeff discuss the art of interviewing and being entertaining. Chi Chi and Jenny also touch on the many issues tackled in the Next Question and the line up of amazing guests.  All episodes of The Next Question are available at tnqshow.com. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation with The Next Question Co-hosts Chi Chi Okwu & Jenny Booth Potter The Next Question (Web Series) I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness by Austin Channing Brown (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Nikole Hannah Jones (American Investigative Journalist) Brené Brown (Author & Research Professor at the University of Houston) Queer Eye (Netflix Television Show) Rachel Cargle (Public Academic, Writer, and Lecturer) Andre Howard The Problem We All Live With - Part One (Nikole Hannah Jones’ This American Life special) Author Austin Channing Brown – I’m Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness – 118 (Irenicast Episode) Michelle Alexander (Writer, civil rights advocate, and visiting professor at Union Theological Seminary) Roxanne Gay (American writer, professor, editor, and commentator) MORE ABOUT CHI CHI & JENNY Chi Chi Okwu is a gifted leader who specializes in strategic planning and mobilization. For more than a decade, Chi Chi has been responsible for partner development, fundraising, empowering teams, and implementing programs to address local justice issues. Chi Chi is a graduate of the University of Alabama and has a Masters Degree in Public Health and Business Administration. She has also completed graduate work at North Park Seminary focusing on Urban Ministry. Chi Chi is the Content Producer and Co-Host of the show.  You can follow Chi Chi on Twitter @chichiokwu and Instagram @cokwu Jenny Booth Potter's day job is Creative Producer. She has been involved in video production for nearly 10 years. She has developed scripts, overseen casting and story interviews, provided creative direction and logistics on-set, and loves making a finished product out of a single idea. She is a storyteller at heart and is passionate about racial justice. Jenny has a degree in Psychology and Non Profit Management and loves leading workshops to teach others tips and tricks for bringing creative visions to life. She is the Creative Producer and Co-Host of The Next Question.  You can follow Jenny Booth Potter on Twitter @JennyBPotter and check out her website at JennyBoothPotter.com SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. 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We’re survivors of high control religious environments? What? Irenicast co-hosts offer the (sometimes) uncomfortable awareness that if you were in an evangelical/fundamentalist community, much of your life, inside and outside of church, was probably highly controlled. The conversation includes the harmful legacy of growing up and living within a highly controlled religious environment.  For example, strong leadership equals controlling people; vulnerability is exploited and access to “worldly” information is heavily managed. Each co-host shares their own experiences of how being part of a high control religious environment impacted them developmentally and psychically. Using recent research as inspiration, co-hosts tell how they are healing from the realities of being both victims and participants in controlling religious communities. The episode ends with a rousing round of Appledash.  Let’s just say -- for people leaving evangelical/fundamentalist faith, delayed adolescence is real. Conversation on High Control Religious Environments (01:05) Appledash Segment (52:17) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on High Control Religious Environments Cracking the Cult Code for Therapists: What Every Cult Victim Wants Their Therapist to Know by Bonnie Zieman  (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link - This is the book Allen is primarily referencing in this episode) Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt (Netflix Show) Infidel by Ayaan Hirsi Ali  (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) How We Fight for Our Lives: A Memoir by Saeed Jones  (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)  Educated: A Memoir by Tara Westover (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)  Learned Helplessness (Psychological Term) Epic of Gilgamesh (Creation Myth) The Five Stages of the Soul: Charting the Spiritual Passages by Harry R. Moody and David Carroll (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Paul Rudd Hot Ones Meme From Our Appledash Segment (Appledash has also been played on episodes #024 and #081) Apples 2 Apples (Board Game - Amazon Affiliate Link) Balderdash (Board Game - Amazon Affiliate Link) Bumfuzzle Sackbut One of Allen’s Hurdy Gurdy Videos Otiose  SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

Jeff & Casey sit down for a conversation with Matthias Roberts, author of the new book Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms.  Before discussion the book, Matthias talks a little bit about his podcast Queerology and his trademark opening question: How do you identify and how would you say your faith has informed that identity? Focus soon turns toward his new book.  Matthias shares how the book came together and what motivated him to write it.  He shares how Beyond Shame encourages each of us to determine our own definition of healthy sex, while avoiding the ditches of boundaryless sex positivity on the one hand and strict moralistic boundaries on the other.  We are encouraged to define our sexual values on our own terms, overcome our shame, and start having great, healthy sex. The conversation finishes on a lighter note as Matthias shares with us some of the music that inspired him throughout his journey.  Including a couple amazingly titled playlists: Narcissism: A Love Story & Songs of Self Compassion. Make sure to get Matthias’ book if you haven’t already. Conversation with Matthias Roberts, Author of Beyond Shame (00:01:41) Irenicast 2020 Announcements (01:06:26) MORE ON MATTHIAS ROBERTS Matthias Roberts is author of Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms (Fortress, 2020) and host of Queerology: A Podcast on Belief and Being which was named as one of the best LGBTQ+ podcasts of 2019 by O: The Oprah Magazine. He holds two master's degrees, one in theology and culture and one in counseling psychology from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology. In his psychotherapy practice, he specializes in helping LGBTQ+ teens and adults live confident and fulfilling lives. Matthias writes and speaks nationwide about the intersections between gender, sexuality, mental health, and theology. Make sure to order Matthais’ book Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms.  To comes out today, January 7th 2020.  Also follow Matthias’ work by visiting his website, listening to his podcast, Queerology and following him on Twitter, Instagram & Facebook RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation with Matthias Roberts, Author of Beyond Shame Matthais Roberts (Podcaster, Author, Speaker) Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms by Matthais Roberts (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Queerology Podcast Rev. Elizabeth M. Edman Rev. Elizabeth Edman on the Inherent Queerness of Christianity (Queerology Episode) Queer Virtue: What LGBTQ People Know About Life and Love and How It Can Revitalize Christianity by Rev Elizabeth M. Edman  (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Brené Brown (Research Professor, Public Speaker) Coping Mechanisms Defense Mechanisms Stan Mitchell (Progressive Christian Pastor) Matthias’ Spotify Playlists Narcissism: A Love Story Songs of Self Compassion ENNEAGRAM COURSE If you are interested in being a part of Casey’s upcoming course, Growing with the Enneagram please email us at podcast@irenicast.com.  The course will be held in the Sacramento, CA area and will last for 6 weeks starting on Sunday, February 2nd and ending on Sunday, March 8th from 6pm-8pm.  The cost for the course is $120. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

It’s a Process Theology Christmas, because that’s our thing now.  In this conversation Bonnie leads the team in a super-sized discussion on all things Christmas.  Through a process theology lens of course. It begins with a discussion around an old Christmas classic, O Holy Night.  Specifically the line, “and the soul felt its worth.” Where does our worth come from?  God? Experience? Process theology may surprise you with its view on the value of life.  It certainly did for one of our co-hosts. And from the big questions of existence itself, the conversation moves into the very basis of human existence: childbirth.  The hosts challenge the lack of emphasis on Mary in the Christmas narrative. Not just as a figure, but as an essential element to the theological idea of “incarnation”.  Is process theology ruining our Christmas traditions and orthodoxy or is it actually expanding it? And what conversation on Christmas is complete without a solid critique of the capitalistic forces that make us think less of the glorious gift of cookies?  Process theology has plenty to say about how extreme excess can distort our connections with one another and the earth. Finally, this Christmas episode closes out with a new segment called, I Will You.  Each host shares what they would leave each other in their wills in case of their tragic demise.  Some gifts are heartfelt, and others are drenched in cold-hearted sarcasm. Listen to find out who gives with the spirit of St. Nick and who is the grinch that steals sincerity. Conversation on a Process Theology Christmas (00:01:30) ‘I Will You’ Segment (01:03:07) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on a Process Theology Christmas O Holy Night  Krampus How happiness is challenging GDP as the measure of a country’s health Is the World Getting Better or Worse? – A Feisty Discussion on the Myth of Progress – 044 From Our Segment, ‘I Will You’ Women in Church Leadership – Home Is Where The Pulpit Is – 156 (The “show ass” reference is from the closing moments of our conversation in this episode) Good Eats SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

To begin, each of the co-hosts speaks to their experiences of women in church leadership. You might be surprised. Then questions surface like -- should we be gender-izing leadership? Aren’t we over the gender binary thing? Bonnie shares her own difficult journey toward claiming pastor-hood.  This episode holds an open-hearted conversation in which mistakes are made and forgiven.  You’ll hear men own up to male privilege and brainstorm ways to detox masculinity. You’ll also hear Allen (and the other co-hosts, but especially Allen) get excited about the bible as the conversation turns to Christianity’s potential for disrupting Patriarchy’s stronghold on societal systems.  A busted-up Patriarchy is all we really want for Christmas. In case you still have gifts to buy, the episode ends with a game of Craigslist Price is Right. The lovely items are listed in the show notes; though you’ll probably get more “Ahhh, thanks.  I love it.” from Irenicast merch. Conversation on (00:49) Segment (59:33) RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Women in Church Leadership Scholar uncovers the Mary Magdalene whom early Christian scribes tried to blot out (article) Restored Rome catacomb frescoes add to debate on women priests John MacArthur Told Beth Moore to ‘Go Home’ for Having the Audacity to Preach the Gospel and Help People (article) From Our Craigslist Price Is Right Segment Bonnie - Liberty Costume Rajeev - Woody the Woodpecker Allen - Barn Door Jeff - Magical Horse Casey - Antique Fire Truck SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.  PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In this episode two innovative spiritual leaders and thinkers, Brian McLaren and Rev. Dr. Penny Nixon, have an intimate conversation beginning with the story of their conservative Christian upbringings, ending with their visions of the future of American Christianity.  Co-hosts, Rajeev Rambob and Bonnie Rambob, ask for insights on faith, doubt, belief, Christian identity and secular Christianity. Have you ever heard of secular Christianity? Well, it’s a thing. Listen to learn more about these fascinating and inspiring visionaries and their evolving faith. Brian D. McLaren is an author, speaker, activist, and public theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for “a new kind of Christianity” – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good. He is a faculty member of  The Living School, which is part of the Center for Action and Contemplation, and he co-leads the Common Good Messaging Team, which is part of Vote Common Good. He is also an Auburn Senior Fellow and a leader in the Convergence Network, through which he has developed an innovative training/mentoring program for pastors, church planters, and lay leaders called Convergence Leadership Project. He works closely with the Wild Goose Festival, the Fair Food Program‘s Faith Working Group, and Progressive Christianity. His most recent joint project is an illustrated children’s book (for all ages) called Cory and the Seventh Story and his upcoming writing projects include The Galapagos Islands: A Spiritual Journey (Fall 2019) Faith After Doubt (Spring 2021), and Do I Stay Christian? (Spring 2022). Penny Nixon has been the Senior Minister of the Congregational Church of San Mateo (CCSM), United Church of Christ, since 2007. CCSM is a vibrant, progressive spiritual community of over 600 members and in 2017 received the MLK award from the county of San Mateo. A community leader and political activist, she has received numerous awards and recognitions for her work in both San Francisco and San Mateo, the most recent being named 2019 Woman of the Year for Assembly District 22. She also is Director of the SMC Solidarity Cohort, which is a group of 30 interfaith clergy engaged in addressing the most pressing social needs in San Mateo County. MORE ABOUT BRIAN MCLAREN & REV. DR. PENNY NIXON To learn more about the Rev. Dr. Penny Nixon and hear her sermons go to her church’s website, Congregational Church of San Mateo And for Brian McLaren you can visit his website, follow him on Twitter or pick up one of his many books. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation with Brian McLaren & Rev. Dr. Penny Nixon  Congregational Church of San Mateo (Penny’s Church) Brian McLaren (Author, Speaker, Activist) Liberation Theology Feminist Theology Ecofeminism Alan Wilson Watts (British writer who interpreted and popularised Eastern philosophy for a Western audience) Marcus Borg (American New Testament scholar and theologian) The Scofield Reference Bible Phyllis Tickle (American Author) Get There Early: Sensing the Future to Compete by Bob Johansen (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Woodstock (Music Festival held August 1969) Gretta Vosper (An ordained minister of the United Church of Canada who is a self-professed atheist) A Secular Age by Charles Taylor (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) The Discarded Image: An Introduction to Medieval and Renaissance Literature by C. S. Lewis  (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Washington Redskins name controversy Did Christopher Columbus Seize, Sell, and Export Sex Slaves? (Snopes Article) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com

In keeping with the shadow side of Halloween, Jeff, Casey and Rajeev ask the question, what is evil? -- capital E, Evil. Each co-host brings his own, different perspective. Is Evil personal?  Is it systemic? Should it be a category at all? Does the Good-Evil binary serve us or harm us? What about the Devil? Through the conversation, the co-hosts model another E word -- Evolution.  Perhaps a conversation on Evil exposes an evolving spiritual/theological journey more than any other concept. The episode concludes with a rousing rendition of Irenicasting. Listen to hear who gets cast as whom.  “Stranger Things” have rarely happened. Conversation on What is Evil? (00:58) Segment (45:46) RELEVANT LINKS  From Our Conversation on What is Evil? Process Theology – Being is Becoming – 153 (Irenicast Episode) Matthew 18:6 CEB Les Misérables Irenicast Halloween episodes Halloween and the Supernatural – Paranormal Proclivities – 034 The Evolution of Satan – Details in the Devil – 086 Are The Witch Hunts Behind Us? – Different Pot, Same Brew – 104 Halloween and Heritage – Have Your Soul Cake and Eat it Too – 128 The Rolling Stones (Band) From Our Irenicasting Segment (Irenicasting was also played on episode #58) Stranger Things (Netflix TV Show) The Goonies (1985 Film) SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.   PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3).   MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.  AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Allen O’Brien, MAT | co-founder & co-host | allen@irenicast.com You can connect with Allen (@RevAllenOB) on Facebook,Twitter, Instagram, GoodReads, & LinkedIn. Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC Pastor Casey Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can follow Rajeev on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com