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Jason is an engineering graduate who reinvented himself as a podcaster and chronic illness/disability advocate after developing fibromyalgia and postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS). He is the host of Discomfort Zone, a podcast featuring immersive stories on chronic illness and disability that showcase our vulnerability, wellness, and resilience. He and his guests find comfort by turning towards discomfort, welcoming it, and laughing at it.  Jason is the youngest of three kids and the proud uncle of his nephew and niece. He was born and raised in Toronto, Canada where he currently lives with his Mom and Dad. On occasion, he helps with the dishes and does his own laundry. In his spare time, he can be found throwing grapes in the air, trying to catch them in his mouth, dropping them, dusting them off, and trying again.     s8e9 Fibromyalgia and POTs TRANSCRIPT Lita T  00:08  Hello, and welcome to another episode of podcast dx, the show that brings you interviews with people just like you whose lives were forever changed by a medical diagnosis. I'm Lita, Ron is not with us today. Jean  00:20  And I'm Jean Marie. Lita T  00:21  Collectively, we're the hosts of podcast dx. And today's show, we're talking about Fibromyalgia, POTs and chronic fatigue syndrome with Jason Herterich. I hope I'm getting that right. He'll correct me in a minute (laughter) Jason is the host of a podcast called "The Discomfort Zone", and co host of the podcast, "Invisible, Not Broken". He's joining us today from one of our favorite cities, Toronto. Hello, Jason. Thanks for joining us today. Jason  00:35  You are Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I've been looking forward to this. Jean  00:56  Thanks. Yeah, actually, I just saw Margaret Atwood was posted. She was cleaning up trash outside of her, you know, on along the street in Toronto. And it looked a little bit chilly. Lita T  01:08  Yeah, it's it's chilly here too. Jason  01:11  It sure is. Jean  01:12  Well, Jason, before we get into your diagnosis, and that, I'm just curious what led you to hosting your own podcast. Jason  01:20  So it was really organic, how it happened, I had fallen really ill in 2016 and 2017. And one of my friends just suggested that I should get into listening to podcasts, I had become very, very ill. And I spent about 22 hours a day in bed. And I couldn't even handle looking at a TV screen, Jean  01:42   Mhhmm Jason  01:42   because I had such severe headaches. And so naturally, podcasts you don't have to look at, you can shut your eyes, you can just listen to them, you can tune out for a little bit. And I got really, really into storytelling podcasts especially. And they they were really wonderful in the way that they help expand. Essentially, they allow you to empathize with people at a much deeper level. And I really loved that aspect of it. But I realized that there weren't, there was a very low representation of people who are chronically ill, and disabled in storytelling podcasts. So I just sought to create my own. So I got into so I started in 2017, after I started to recover, and I started producing stories about my own chronic illness experience. And I tried to make them just very immersive stories using sound design  music and sound effects and everything to really try and engage as many people as possible. And so I've been doing that ever since. Jean  02:46  That's fantastic Lita T  02:47  Yeah, sounds great. Jean  02:48  And what are some of your favorite podcasts at the moment? Jason  02:51  Oh, yeah, I got a whole ton of I got a whole ton right here. Um, yeah, one of my favorite recently has been "Your Hustle". It is Have you guys heard of that before? Jean  03:01  I, I. ehh... it sounds familiar. Jason  03:04  Yeah, so it's a podcast that is produced within the walls of San Quentin penitentiary in California. And I don't know about you. But before whenever I think of inmates, they're often depicted as scary criminals who are devoid of any remorse. But really, when you get to hear their stories, you just get to understand them at a deeper level to empathize with them. And it really leaves you with this feeling that anyone is capable of rehabilitation. So that is one of them. Another one that have been hooked on lately "Unlocking Bryson's Brain". And it is a story of a Canadian man who takes listeners inside his family search for a diagnosis, treatment and cure to his son's rare brain disease. So yeah, it's it's really fascinating as like, this really incredible mix of storytelling, medical mystery, disability rights, and gene editing science. And then And then lastly, "How To Be A Girl" is a documentary of a mother raising her transgender daughter. So yeah, just just to keep this brief. At the age of three, her child told her that there was a mistake in her tummy that and that she should have come out as a girl. Lita T  04:23  Oh wow! Jason  04:24  So it just yeah, it navigates there. As the girl gets older, she starts going through school playdates. And when the mom has romantic relationships, so they just have very raw conversations. And I think the daughter is is my favorite part of it. It just really goes to show how incredibly wise children can be. Lita T  04:49  That's amazing. Jean  04:50  Yeah, those will be adding those three to our list. Lita T  04:52  Oh, for sure. Jean  04:54  Yeah. Lita T  04:54  I love that. Jason  04:55  Yeah I couldn't, I couldn't recommend them. highly enough. Lita T  04:58  Love it. Jason, how do you balance living with a chronic illness? Actually several chronic illnesses and hosting your own podcast? Jason  05:09  Yeah, it's it's an ongoing struggle. What has been most helpful for me is I try to make active decisions throughout the day. So I will leave alarms on my phone to just remind me to pause, whatever I'm doing consciously think about what I will do next and check in with my body see, like, do I need to take a break? Should I go out for a walk? Am I having trouble concentrating? Because usually, that's a sign that my symptoms are starting to kick in? Or, you know, do I have any obligations later in the day that I need to reserve spoons for? So really, it's an ongoing process? I try to get a little bit better at it over time. But yeah, I'm not perfect. (laughter) Lita T  05:58  Yeah, I can....  I can understand that, Jason  05:58  it's something that... I continue to struggle with. Lita T  06:00   yeah, I do the same thing with I use my phone a lot. I have early onset Alzheimer's. And I use my phone constantly to, to remind me to do things. And just to keep me in check and make sure that the day is going smoothly. And I don't end up with anything surprising that really kind of goes be into a tailspin, basically. Jason  06:25  Yeah, yeah. If you use too much early in the day, it can throw you off, Lita T  06:29  right. Jean  06:30   And we also use tech, we have watches that have a light diode that takes your pulse ox and pulse rate on a regular basis. And actually, it vibrates when you're starting when your stress levels are increasing. Or when you've been sedentary too long to kind of give you just that reminder, either to take a deep breath or go take a walk. Lita T  06:50  You Right, right. Jason  06:52  Wow, that's, that's actually incredible. I'm gonna have to get the name of that afterwards from you Lita T  06:56   It's one of the Garmin, I know it's a Garmin, but there are several Garmin, we got it. Yeah, we'll put a link on that for our website, Jean  07:04  or send you a message. Yep. Lita T  07:05  Yep. So Jason, I understand that you've been diagnosed with several different really complicated and difficult diagnosis. Fibromyalgia in itself is rough. myalgic encephalitis horrible. And POT's, could you tell us what symptoms lead you to seeking out medical care? Jason  07:27  Yeah, so this all started out just over nine years ago, it's wild to think it was so long ago, but I was a fourth year student at University studying engineering. And I was very, very active. At the time, I was a triathlete. And, you know, I was about to graduate and had my whole life ahead of me. And then one day during an intramural game of basketball, I caught a rebound, I twisted and pass the ball up court. And in that moment, I strained a muscle in my abdomen called, what is the name of it, intercostal, sorry, brain fog here. I strained my intercostal muscles, and they are muscles that are used for breathing. And so unlike if you break your arm, you can put it in a sling, and you let it recover, and it naturally gets better by itself. But with these muscles, it is really, really painful. And it is it's made even more complicated by the fact that you can't rest and recover from it, Lita T  08:30  Cause you need to breathe. Right Jason  08:32  Yeah, it's not easy to treat at all. And so essentially, I had to take a week off of school spent the entire time in bed. And when I went back to school, I was so far behind that, essentially what happened is I my stress levels were so high from having to work so hard. And my pain levels were already really high from the injury. And when you get pain and stress, the two just build on one another, you're more stressed out because you're in pain and you're in more pain, because you're stressed out. So it creates this positive feedback loop. And so over time, my brain just became sensitized to pain. And I as a result as well, I'm not getting any restorative sleep, so I'm just tired all the time. And so it was something I sought medical care for quite a while ago, but it wasn't until so. So the injury happened in 2011. I didn't receive a diagnosis until like 2014. And so yeah, there at that point, they were really really debilitating symptoms. Jean  09:40  I'm sorry to hear that. Lita T  09:40  And was that basically the Fibromyalgia that kicked in at that point? Jason  09:45  Yeah, it was fibromyalgia and myalgic encephalomyelitis as well. I don't think at that point. My POTs symptoms had begun showing themselves my POTs symptoms. I started to I believe, later on in 2015 is when I started I get dizzy and all that. And yeah, it's it's one of those things where I know a lot of these chronic conditions are interconnected. So you catch one, you're more likely to catch another, and, and so on. Jean  10:13  And so I think because of all the overlapping symptoms, it's hard to get a differential diagnosis. And establish that. Jason  10:21  Yeah, yeah. Makes it a lot harder Jean  10:24  and, and you said it took a while to get that diagnosis. What were some of the tests associated with that? And I hear you have a tilt table story for us? Jason  10:33  I do. Yeah. So I was just very dizzy all the time. And I would find that my heart raced whenever I stood up. And so one day when I was in my neurologists office, he did a quick check. So for your listeners, POTs is characterized by a heart rate increase of 30 beats per minute when you go from lying to standing up. So this was something that my neurologist did a quick check in his office, and I tested positive and this in that test in 2015. And so he referred me for a more comprehensive test called the tilt table test, where essentially, they tap they strap you to a table. And it's, it's slowly adjust from horizontal to vertical. And at that point, my symptoms were very severe when I got in, it was 2016. And just simply lying on the table put me in debilitating pain, even before the test began. I believe my heart rate was around 100 beats per minute, before it even started when Usually, it's around 60. And so they that we started the test, but it's supposed to be a 45 minute test. But 15 minutes in, I was just in such debilitating pain just from being uncomfortable on the board that they actually had to stop the entire test. And I just thought that it was going to be an inconclusive results. Lita T  12:01  Mhhmm Jason  12:01   But they ended up sending a report back to my doctor saying that I tested negative for it. Lita T  12:09  Oh? Jason  12:09  Which, to me is Jean  12:10  Not quite the same thing. Lita T  12:12   Yeah. Yeah. Jason  12:13  It didn't seem right. And I pleaded with the doctor, you know, I said, I explained to him how they had to stop the test early and how my symptoms had gone haywire before they even started the test. But my neurologist, kind of just discounted what I had said, and he accepted the results. And he completely ignored me. And I think I yeah, I believe anyways, it was only a few months ago, or earlier this year, when I just simply redid that very first test when you just simply go from lying to standing up. And I had the heart rate increase. And a new doctor that I've been seeing a cardiac specialist told me that I do in fact have POTs. So I guess the moral of that entire story was that I I guess, I guess the issue was like the rigidity of the medical system and not stressing the importance of the patient voice there, it was very clear to me that there was systematic error within the test that made the results completely meaningless. Jean  13:17  I'm sorry to hear that. I also had a tilt table test. And the technician that was performing my test to get me at a baseline for them to start actually was telling me very interesting stories and trying to keep my mind off the fact that we were there for because I think even going in for their test because it it can be a stressful process. And it is like a disconcerting kind of activity to be going through. A good technician is worth their weight in gold because they can try to keep your mind off the fact that you're there for that test and Lita T  13:57  and she was in pain because Jean  13:59   right Lita T  13:59   we had just flown out to California to Stanford for the test and on the landing or just Jean  14:06  some luggage hit me in the head. It wasn't a big deal Lita T  14:08  just prior to landing  the the flight attendant open the hatch on top, from where she was sitting and luggage fell out and hit her. And she had already had a neck and a head injury. So but she was tense. Let's say Jason  14:10  Ouch! Jean  14:23   But it's vital Lita T  14:24   she was tense. Jean  14:25  I think it just shows how important every individual in the medical system is Lita T  14:29   right Jean  14:30   And how much of an eff... you know how much they can Lita T  14:32  put you to ease Jean  14:33  Yeah, they can put you at ease and it takes someone who really cares about the person, you know, to accomplish that and I think we need more people out there that actually care about people and it does it makes a significant difference. Lita T  14:46  I'm hoping that all of the future medical people in the world are listening to this podcast Jean  14:50  we do have a lot of medical students listening Lita T  14:52  Yes, pay attention to your patient Jason  14:55  Yes that really is important. Yeah, paying attention to the to the To the individual not just simply seeing them as as a patient. And yeah, I think I believe I've heard the term white coat syndrome. Lita T  15:10  Uhhuuh Jason  15:10  My mom was telling me how she always used to test really high on blood pressure tests. Whenever she was in the in the, to see her doctor, and that was simply because just the fact that she was getting it tested would always just stress her out. Lita T  15:25  Right Jean  15:26  And it, Yeah. So if you have someone that puts you at ease that that can be very helpful, but inconclusive or incomplete test is not a you know, a completed testing. Lita T  15:35   No. Right. Jean  15:36  Sorry that you had to go through that. Lita T  15:37  Right. Well, I'm glad you finally got it, sorted out. Jean  15:40  Thank goodness, you know, you advocated for yourself, and were able to find a physician that would listen to you as well. Lita T  15:45  That's important. Well, I'm not sure if there are misconceptions about POTs. But what would what do you think the most common misconceptions about Fibromyalgia are? Jason  15:56  I would say that it's all in our heads. I have heard, I've heard that many times. I think that people who are not familiar with chronic illness, have a tendency to discount other people's suffering and their pain and their fatigue levels, simply because it's invisible. And and I think so many people have it in their heads that they just have it in their heads what somebody will look like who is suffering, they mistake what they're familiar with, as acute pain, where it's this very intense feeling. And people are gritting their teeth, with chronic pain, which is something that people have adapted to living with over years and years. And we still experience it all the time. But we're not necessarily showing it. We simply learned to internalize it, and try to focus on how we can best live with it. And then one other big misconception with fibromyalgia. I think a lot of people see it, and a lot of doctors actually think it only affects women. It is predominantly women, but men can develop Fibromyalgia as well. And I'm living proof of that. Lita T  17:12  Right right Jean  17:12  Yeah, we have interviewed other other men with fibromyalgia. And we were kind of shocked to hear that. That's the that's a popular misconception, Lita T  17:22  right Jean  17:23   Because I never imagined you know, that that would be something that would affect. Yeah, but okay. I have two questions for you. How are you currently being treated? And are your conditions? Is there a in the future? You know, do they anticipate that these are things that can be like, Is there a cure out there in the future? Jason  17:42  Yeah, so in terms of being treated, I know it's different for everybody. But what I have found most effective is simply a self treatment plan. So for me, I focus on eating a good diet, lots of vegetables and fruit. I getting the right medication for me that that took many years to find the right one for me, mind being amitriptyline. Everybody, things work differently for everybody. And then also incorporating some mindfulness where I just work, breathing, paying attention to my body sensations, tuning into my body throughout the day. And then, for me movement as well. That's been really huge. For a while I was doing Tai Chi, and I was even doing a waterbase tai chi, they had a program down at the hospital, I went to where we got to go through all the movements in this group atmosphere. And I found that really empowering as well. Just knowing that other you're in the pool with other people with chronic illness, and you're all going through the same thing together. So yeah, just overall that and having a good sleep hygiene, I turned off all my devices an hour or two before bed every single night and I try to just relax, I will even turn off all the lights in my on my floor and just have candlelight so that I can help relax my mind. Lita T  19:09  Well that's good Jason  19:10  So those are Yeah, those are the main treatment plans. And then in terms of fibromyalgia, Fibromyalgia being curable. I know that a small portion of patients do experience full remission. I don't personally focus on curing my illness, it would be really nice if it happened. But I remember my occupational therapist, one once told me not to make dead people goals and dead people can't feel any pain. So I can't if I can't fully control how my pain levels are I try to focus on what I can influence and work to be coming. I guess just work towards improving functionality. And then I've generally found that when my functionality does improve that my pain level usually follow suits as well. Jean  20:02  That's fantastic. Lita T  20:02  Yeah, that's good... Jean  20:03  that's very inspiring. Lita T  20:04  Right Right, for sure. Jason  20:05  Thank you. Lita T  20:07  Do you have any advice for someone that has been recently diagnosed with a chronic illness? Jason  20:12  Yeah, I think finding your social support system is really, really key. For anyone with a chronic illness, it can be very, very isolating. I think a lot of us who are chronically ill have friends drop out of our lives for whatever reason. It's not personal, it's not a reflection of you. And I've just found that it's best to focus on whoever has stayed. And just let them know regularly how much their support means to you and get involved with the online community I found that can be helpful as well. Lita T  20:48  Well, that's good advice. Jean  20:49  Yeah. And it sounds like you've established a really nice rapport with everyone in your podcast network as well. And you guys have a, you know, a great group there and produce some really quality podcasts. Jason  21:03  Yeah, that's been wonderful. Just connecting with so many people connecting with listeners hearing from them. Yeah. Jean  21:09  And what other role have your friends and family taken over the course of this journey? I know your parents have been very important to you, right? Jason  21:18  Yeah, they've been super Jean  21:19   it was a very leading question. Lita T  21:21   (laughter) Jason  21:21  Yeah, yeah. they've they've been huge. My parents. Now I fell very ill, as I mentioned earlier, around 2016. And around that time, I didn't have the ability to even take care of all my medical stuff, like getting prepared for appointments, keeping track of all that stuff, going to pick up all my medication, doing my research on all the different medications or the different tests that I was being sent for. So really, my mom ended up handling, essentially, all of that, in addition to being my full time caregivers for a couple of years, and I mean, even now, I've improved quite a bit. But even now, I have to rely on them quite a bit for meal preparation and other tasks, when I'm not able to handle them myself. And then, in terms of friends, oh, sorry, I should also just mention my I've got a lot of other family members who have been really great, especially my sister, Lisa, she's been amazing and always checked in on me whenever I was really feeling down. And then in terms of friends. I, yeah, I am incredibly blessed in that area too, in that when I was really sick. And there's a period of about eight months where I didn't, I only left bed very infrequently, and was very, very depressed, had thoughts of suicidal ideation, and all that. And there wasn't a span of time of more than two days, when I didn't get a visitor coming by, to just check in on me, and to come hang out with me. It's not the most exciting thing for my friends to come and do and, and sit by my bedside. And often I would barely even be able to contribute to the conversation, it would be them mostly doing most of the talking. So they were really my lifeline. And they were a huge reason why I was able to keep going and until I was able to receive the proper supports to allow me to recover. Lita T  23:31  That's excellent. Jean  23:32  Yeah that's, that's wonderful. I'm glad that you have those people in your life and that they've been so supportive. Jason, with the pandemic and everything that's been going on, you said you used to, you know, be able to go to the gym at the hospital. How have How have things change over the course of the past year? And what modifications Have you made to, you know, still stay active and do things? And, you know, in keep in contact with friends and family, when everything has been in lockdown? Jason  24:01  Yeah, it's been a lot harder. I've been doing zoom like a lot of other people for keeping in touch with people, for just keeping in touch with friends, but I do get zoom fatigue like everybody else, probably quicker than everybody else just due to having headaches and everything. Yeah, in terms of what else? I've been lots of phone calls. I've been doing social distance walks where I'll meet up with friends and we'll just all walk six feet away from each other Jean  24:33  (giggle) Okay Jason  24:33   six feet or more. Jean  24:34   Okay. Jason  24:35  And that's been a really good way to just keep in touch while also getting some exercise getting some fresh air. Yeah, not being able to go to the pool has been kind of tough. That's one of the things I really miss. That was a huge part of remaining social and, and all that and remaining active as well. And yeah, yeah, I've been fortunate I mean, I'm in Toronto here. For a good part of the pandemic, I have been able to have a small social circle. So I've had my brother, his wife and their kids within our social circle. And so yeah, being able to hang out with like a three year old and a two year old as they always make you feel young, and that is really improved my spirits. Jean  25:24  Yeah, there, children can be, and and pets and everything can be a great distraction. Lita T  25:28  Wait a minute, children and pets, you can't ball them up in the same thing. Jean  25:32  Well we do chicken therapy, where we go to see the chickens, Lita T  25:35 yeah we do, we do Jean  25:36  nothing makes you laugh harder than watching, you know, chickens fight over a tomato, because it kind of looks like you know, some sort of weird horror movie and yeah, okay. Lita T  25:45  (laughter) Jean  25:46  Okay, sorry, I'm, we're getting way off topic. Lita T  25:48  (laughter) Jean  25:50  Jason, what additional advice or tips do you have for our listeners. Jason  25:54  So, I would say, to just do your best job advocating for yourself. Or if you can't find a family member or friends who can, or friends who can, our medical system isn't... that the chronically ill often fall through the cracks of our medical system. So unfortunately, you do need to do some of that work yourself in terms of do your research before appointments, come prepared to every appointment with a summary of your recent medical history, and any questions you have for your doctors and any potential tests that you'd like to request. So you really have to become your own advocate there. And another thing is just find something that makes you happy, I know that our lives don't look the same way that they did prior to becoming ill. But it doesn't mean that I guess over time, we can develop the ability to adapt and find joy in different ways that we never could have imagined before becoming chronically ill. So yeah, find whatever, do whatever makes you happy. Lita T  27:08  That's great. Jean  27:09  Yeah wonderful advice Lita T  27:10  right. Have you always lived in Canada? Jason  27:14  I always have. Yeah, Jean  27:15  You can hear from his accent Jason  27:16  I live with my parents. Lita T  27:17  No, no, I  was just curious. Because, you know, like, now we're kind of comparing apples and oranges, you know, the medical system in the United States compared to the medical system in Canada. And I think that we have the same problems here. And it is very important to always go to your doctor's office prepared. And like you're saying, do your research ahead of time. Because you know, you go to a doctor's office nowadays, and you're given like a minute and a half, Jason  27:44  Yeah Lita T  27:44   you know, you don't have a lot of screen time with your doctor. Jason  27:47 Yes Lita T  27:47  So you have more you can do ahead of time, the better. Jason  27:51  Yeah, and I've noticed that doctors really appreciate it when you can give them like a 30 second briefing on everything that's happened with with your health, since they've last seen you it's a way for them to digest everything really quickly, and then be more efficient with your time. So I think that they really appreciate it as well. Lita T  28:11  Right. Right. That That could be a career field. Jean  28:14  Well, and I think Lita T  28:15   No, I mean, like just just in order to teach people how to go to the doctor, Jean  28:20  right? Well, maybe it could be included in your high school health class. Lita T  28:24  Right. Okay. (laughter) Jean  28:25  And I think nowadays, a lot of technology can also come into play where you can track your, you know, your headaches, and you can track your symptoms, and you can actually give your your physician or healthcare provider an actual, you know, a synopsis and a screenshot of what is actually happening with you on a day to day basis, because when it is a chronic illness, I think it's hard to quantify it. And I think Jason  28:34  Yeah, Jean  28:48  and things can help. Jason  28:50  I think that stuff is is so great, too. And I've noticed, I noticed that before I started doing any of this, like tracking my medical history, I would go into an appointment. And so often, it would depend what I would say to the doctor would depend on how my day was going. If I was feeling depressed that day, it would just seem like everything is so completely bleak. And I would send that message to the doctor, whereas like, they would get a much more accurate depiction of what my recent medical history was if I was able to Yeah, like as you were saying, go in with any kind of metrics or anything that you've been tracking over time. Lita T  29:26  Sure, sure. Well, Jason, how can our listeners learn more about you and your podcast? Jason  29:33  Well, they can listen to my podcast "Discomfort Zone" on whichever podcast app they use. They can also go to "Invisible Not Broken dot com" to find my podcast, as well as all the other shows in our network and you can find me on social media. My handle is D Zone Podcast. Lita T  29:52  Okay, excellent. Jean  29:53  And you guys have a wonderful website and a well rounded collection of podcasts. So we're very impressed. And we're hoping to one day grow up and be more like you.  (Eh Ha!) Maybe? (laughter) Well, at least Jason  30:06  You guys are great the way you are. Lita T  30:08  At least we're staying active. Jean  30:09  Yeah. Okay, Lita T  30:10   mentally. (laughter)  Well, Jason, thank you very much for taking the time to talk with us today. Jean  30:15  Thank you, Jason. Jason  30:17  Thank you so much for having me. Lita T  30:18  You're welcome. If our listeners have any questions or comments related to today's show, they can contact us at podcast dx@yahoo.com through our website, podcast, dx.com and Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, or Instagram. Ron  30:32  Please keep in mind that this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition or treatment, and before undertaking a new health care regime, and never disregard professional medical advice or delay in taking it because it's something you've heard on this podcast Jean  30:57  till next week.

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parents what why in our small town to Gainesville occasionally was somebody in a three-piece suit sitting amongst all of the people in the in the waiting room and they always seem to be holding pamphlets and couldn't wait to get in and they didn't have to have their name on the list and they would go back but a lot of things has changed since those days and the way that pharmaceutical representatives have to become educated how they represent to the physicians how they support the positions with their staff and patients etc. so there's so want to get into in a coursers lots of others lots of funny stories to go along with having a yeah a pharmaceutical rep but yes the big news in the big news happens to be in conjunction with the KPD health box and before we forget I wanted you to touch on the feedback that you got this last week and then what you have coming out is a little there's actually an updated change so we did the box opening last week with the KB of the health box but this is a really exciting thing this is a brand-new venture for us and for member box and they did an amazing job and I've had some great feedback my patients were to make big differences you met him boxing is a primary got box yesterday we sat was Sarah Jean and were building next month's box and were making it even better because more vendors are allowing their products to be part of member box you can build your own box once you get going this is really exciting I want to personally change the healthcare landscape naturally and allow people to really start changing things about themselves this pretty awesome because some of the feedback that we got from our patient just yesterday it was scope to received her first box and she said this is amazing I don't have to guess anymore and I thought that was really awesome to have yet another new element of a patient testimony it says this is helping me be healthier and saving money, the biggest thing about the boxes once you realize that there is 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she's made cards for basically blank cards thank you cards old-school member like instead of just texting somebody hey thanks that was awesome to catch you write thank you for doing whatever will on the back of it all the proceeds go to the Alzheimer's foundation so were you put that in anybody's box so our office purchased all of her cards and were to put that in the box and I just want it's an opportunity to Cordish to share that message others diseases like Alzheimer's which are really devastating and people you will be reminded of it Mrs. original art that's being sent to restart interact on hey we can put this in your box like that's awesome thank you that is awesome and if you've ever wanted to go and use a physician's recommendation as you move through the aisles of where what supplements actually work which brands are the ones that I can trust and which ones can I save money on to accomplish all of the things that I want to to supplement mount health that's what the K BMD boxes all bouts of KB MD box.com will direct you to where you can learn more to see a video of Dr. Brown on boxing the first months box that'll be replaced here pretty soon when we basically updated and unpack month number two which was very similar to one that always has small little tweaks just to basically improve your health and you can join and you can pause at any time there was never go to the you can go to the the member store and build more build you can deftly build more he can remember boxes getting more and more products in their really and it's all you know I want do is build a box it's based on science speaking of one of our people has member box set me article this morning that I normally would really go to personal stuff here but remember you can little love my Tommy.com/spoony and get a big discount and outrun till you're wondering okay will I don't have bloating or anything like that this article was just sent to me about 15 minutes ago in the article is anthocyanins protect the gastrointestinal tract from a high fat diet -induced alterations blot within burial integrity disposal really fancy these are the molecules are talking about right anthocyanins and what they do they looked at mice and they fed them a typical high sugar high fat American diet and they demonstrated that when they did this that the mice became fat they had insulin resistance they developed steatosis which is fat in the liver and they showed despite Elsa so the bacteria got screwed up and we got then they gave the mice the same molecules that we have and are trying to fed him the same diet and it started to reverse all that process so the science is coming out on this is so fascinating so if you don't if you're not taken Toronto right now because you do not bloated you might want to do it if you're eating a typical American diet leased from the small animal studies so that's and that's in the box and that's one of the main ingredients that's only one more facet in terms of what are 20 or just straight polyp I tried to learn not it's really what polyphenols can do to enhance or protect you and your health so now we know that it works well for gut now we know that tab with that Dr. Bo tells research from the UK from Exeter that polyphenols daily for athletes actually improves performance and tissue perfusion from from blood flow in a course you slow down your recovery time all of that comes from polyphenols not to mention making your endogenous or your your normal CBD your your normal cannabidiol that you have in your body work more efficiently there's just benefits to having polyphenols in your daily diet so we built this box is a gut health box right when you start looking for science to get the polyphenols for performance you get the megastore to increase the diversity of your bacteria so that they can actually use the food that you're bringing in and then the little thing we talked about before was true see that's the micronized hydrogen to improve your VO2 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I did 550 550 is from take it easy just be safe though truthfully it wasn't that much weight but what I did I put myself in a in a compromising angle that I don't normally do is in the equipment that usually use I knew better but regardless I did get a small spasm in my lower back usually the past it would take five sometimes seven days to really get more mobility that that injury gets it's a small injury occurred Sunday and you saw me pushing beds yesterday up at the end of center and I'm not 100% but the only difference that I have now that I didn't have the last time I hurt my back from lift is it I take on trying till daily antic CBD now and I think the level of inflammation that I experienced is less now it's anecdotal it's just me I feel great today will Susan feel totally 100% let's go back to that same doing the exact same exercise injure yourself but don't take either that way we have a control group and we have a treatment group you took the words right out of my mouth is exactly what I want to do is drive back to Wichita Kansas Wichita are our lovely and nice has nothing to do that it's just five hours from here to get there so at say it's a long round trip looks like your haircut I did get a haircut and yeah several of them cut several of them I'm such a fancy place what you talking to the person that was chop in your hair I was the hairstylist that's it you you call a woman the catcher here I guess that the hairstylist was cutting my hair and she asked me use it kind of funny in the chair and I say well actually just kinda stretch my back go back I tweaked it but I'm getting better and then she went on to tell me a story about she had been rear-ended by a large truck that erection Torcon on Interstate 35 in Denton and it took about eight months to get back to where she could hold her arms up to cut hair and then you know work at home in the scissors and without feeling fatigued lots of pain so I stress it would all work that she said well I did a few things that the pain doc recommended that do it it stretches but what made the biggest difference for me is when I found a CBD that I could trust and I could take but the hardest part should try several she has rides whatever we value this all the time she said the hardest part was finding one that was reputable that she could depend on didn't break her wallet so the one that worked the best was running her a little over $135 a month and she said it'd always make it to the end of the month even though she was following the instructions on their I let her talk and it was almost like she just walked straight into what you know what it is that you do it sought his ashes what would it have made a difference if you had a physician it said I recommend this CBD because it works clinically for my patients and here's why and she said I would've done in a heartbeat if so what if I could told it would have been about half the cost of the hundred and $35 brain that you are using she said well 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His boots of there's people there's essential oil companies that outrun at CBD there's every try to put it in different things and people ordered off Amazon which right now you're getting hemp seed oil united in getting CBD right is lots of mislabeling and so I think it's really important to have something to trust same thing that you're doing and buy a supplement or make sure that your CBD use is of quality something will happen is also on the topic of that of yesterday I I like it is so Greek salad and turkey patties from from Kenny's burger which is right by my brother my office to tasty Kenny's burgers but Chef Eric said that he was with him on the show under someone holding to it here pretty soon but I was I was Artie talking some people some somewhat regulars there was I googled you and I found you show LOL my guess it's also active on the show because it googled me as a doctor but find it a joke of growth nature and that she was tell me more about the CBD and then just immediately started this whole discussion about passivity was her talk about it and then it went sideways because she goes what you talk about tomorrow Mike that's a great thing am open to looking at different articles a look at what is really interesting one that just came out about a fecal microbial transplant is not effective in irritable bowel I forget that I'm at a restaurant you said that getting said yeah out loud to your class he got real classy records. The never disconsolate that I had to explain the article on the Gladwell will so you take what you slurry it up and put it I'm sorry document can you please leave the stage and a restaurant as I know I was like what yeah okay I'm just as it doesn't get any better not go into detail about how they actually did it which is what I want to do later maybe go to a restaurant that is not does not sell more burgers is Chevron Arcana came out was like yeah let's just move you back in the corner over there and let everybody else eat the burgers no need to wash your hand yes exactly so that we talked about CBD they found us just by doing and then I got put in the corner because I have a potty mouth it's okay well yeah is about a subject hey I just a real real quick reminder for all of our listeners be sure to like and share the gut check project and then shoot us an email gadget project.com under a connector contact let us know that you like and shared we got hundreds of people over the last few 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That's Really All There Is It's Almost 90s What Is What You Say 97% of Pharmaceutical Reps Started in the Cattle Industry Oh That Is It's Much Lower Than That I Hope My Way off Bad Stats in Math and so Well We Get Now That We Have Somebody from the from the Farms of the Industry We Wanted to Have Travis Calloway in on Some of the Articles That Were Going to Discuss Today and in the Science Corner From Dr. Brown so Let's so I Got It Norma What Transmittal Do Sometimes I'll Take a Really Kind of a Cutting-Edge Article and Take a Deep Dive but There's Several Different Studies That Pertain to Our Previous Shows I Just Want to Come to Gloss over Them Wanted to Let Travis Decide Which One Were to Talk about First So Very Important You May Just Pick One of Those Pages Are All Negative That Gary Sakata Description First Actually Do You Want to Hear about the Tie between the Jott Micro Biome In a Potential Way to Help People with ALS Pamela Tropic Lateral Sclerosis Is Usually Known As Lou Gehrig's Disease Stress Data Was Choice Number One Choice Number Two Would You like to Hear the Previously Discussed Kenny's Restaurant Poop Transplant Story Choice Number Two Choice Number Two or Choice Number Three Out Of a Canadian University They Been Able to Identify And Produce Molecules in This Behalf Plant That Are Actually 30 Times Stronger Than Aspirin For Anti-Inflammatory Now You Heard Eric Talk about His Back Could Be That CBD Was Doing Something Real Nice We May Have the Molecules Three so This This Is Actually More of a Personality Test For You to See Where You Actually Landed Where Where You Headlined Is Generic Travis Your Job Is on the Line Yeah I I Feel like It's a Personality Test the Number Two with the Poop Would Be like to Go to Choice One with the Got Biome ALS Biome LSO Study Just Cannot Hear with I Looked at the Motor Neuron Disease ALS What They Have Found Is That There Is a Clue That This Horrible Condition and We Had Brandon Brown on Last Week We Were His Dad Died We Went into A Lot Of Detail about the Just Slow Progression of It and You Know We've Had Other People Call in That Event Actually Dealt with Us so Is This What Killed Stephen Hawking They Have Linked Changes in the Micro Biome That Live in Our Gut so They Have Discovered That Micro Biome Will Secrete a Proper Micro Bar Will Secrete Nicotinamide Vitamin B3 And This Appears to Slow the Course of Motor Neuron Disease by Improving the Function of the Muscle Control Neurons in the Brain Now This Is Pretty Exciting Because This Is the First Time They've Been Able to Show How the Micro Biome Will Produce a Neuroprotective Molecule and What They Showed Is That They Took Some Mice and Dooming a Biotics in the No Longer Produce So When We Start Destroying and Dropping Bombs and Not Feeding Our Microbiota We Don't Produces so It Nicotinamide You Made This May Seem Familiar to You Because We Were Working with the Guys That Produce Nicotinamide Ribonucleic Acid Which Is a Precursor of This so Basically What Happens Is Nicotinamide Gets Converted to Something Called NAD Plus and This Converts Food and Energy It Repairs DNA and It Helps the Circadian Rhythm so All These Things Eventually I Want to Try Get Some NAD in Our Box Sure but so It's Pretty Exciting Because Once Again It Comes Back to the Gut Can Affect Your Brain Were All about the Got Right Axis Here And so That Was Kind of Exciting and We Should All Think before We Just Go over to Gazette about Taking Antibiotics to Eat This Crappy Food Because Your Kinda Doing Some Neural Protection Every Time You Eat Polyphenols Every Time You Improve the Diversity of Your Micro Bio/ME I Think That You Could Look at There's Two Inputs to Your Brain and and Its Health One Is the Obvious It's What You're Doing to Learn and Keep Your Your Mind Active but the Other Thing Is Just Plain and Simple You Rest of Your Body Has To Get Nutrition From Somewhere in the Only Way to Get It Eat What You Eat in a Matter I Would Just Shown Time and Time Again That the Typical Western American Preservative Filled the Diet the Preprocessed Food It's Just Destroy Your Health It Really Is We Were Seeing an Epidemic of Autoimmune Disease and Everything Else Which Is Why I Think Everyone Has an Endo Cannabinoid Deficiency We Always Talk about This There Is the Gastro Vessel System the Cardiovascular System Neurologic System Will Have an Endo Cannabinoid System I Want to Be the First Board-Certified Endo- Kanab and All Just out There I Think I Can Because I'll Have To Form the Whole John Ronald to Certify Myself Immediately to Me Interesting Residency for Sure It Will Be Really Interesting Yeah So That the Other Study Were to Talk about Which Is These Guys Figured out These Two Molecules Cannot Live in a Can of Light and Be What's Interesting to Me about This Is That They Are Flavonoids So in a Full-Spectrum Hemp These Are the Polyphenols Which Are Also Was CBD Original CBD Nobody Talk about All the Other Molecules That Come along with It We Talk about the Terpenes Which Are the Essential Oils and We Talk about the Flavonoids Which Are the Polyphenols Right And What They Showed Is These Template and a and B They Provide the Anti-Inflammatory Benefit of Taking a Full Spectrum Interesting and They Showed They Can Show This Is What's The More Interesting They Implied That They Show That These Different Molecules Are 30 Times More Effective Than Taking Aspirin by Blocking Prostaglandins Prostaglandins As Part of the Arachidonic Acid Pathway Okay yet so Just for Those Who May Not Be Completely Aware of Their Economic Acid Pathway You Start with the Prostaglandin and It Moves down I Think It's Either Level I or Level II You Get into the Cyclooxygenase of the Cox Enzyme Correct Correct and That's Where Aspirin and Those Other NSAIDs Would Work so Basically You're Saying That a Natural Flavonoid Will Stop or Prevent That That Progression down That Pathway Earlier Correct Exactly This Is Patrick He Is Just Studio 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Though Find Something Oh There Is the Molecule during This Then They'll Manufacture It and Hope That It Works As Well As in Mother Nature but We See It Time and Time Again That It Doesn't You Need Everything in the to Do It and I Did Have Some Fun with This Because I Want on Reddit and Looked at Somebody I Recently Discovered Read about Three Months Ago Yes It Just Started Ready Friend and I'm like Reddit Thing Is Super Cool When You Find That Modems Had a Quick Side Note They Go on I Gonna Read It Funny Pretty Good Way to Start Your Day Just Looked at Cop Arresting a High a Really High Kid and I Don't Know What Happened before Goes the Cop Looks at Him and Just Goes I Mean like When They Make Fun of High People and They Portrayed in Movies You're Mad As Hell Man Thanked Its Front Page Read It for Sure It Was so Somebody Wrote Them Basically What They're Talking about Is That It's Been Known for a Long Time That These Kenna Flavin's a and B Have Been Able to Do This and the Study They Were Referring to His 1985 but It Just Kind of Implies That This Is You Know the Way Things Go What's Really Cool about It Is That There Are Potentially Thousands of Other Molecules We've Not Discovered In These Plants I Made Such a Complex Plant Which Is Why Think It Is so Many Things so That's Article Number Two Article Number Three Is I Get Asked All Time on My Patients about Fecal Transplants and so You Take Someone's Poop Stick and Somebody Else and A Lot Of My SEBO Patients A Lot about Your Mobile Patients Always Asked That Randomized Trial Came to the Conclusion That Now It's Not Any Better Than Placebo the Real Taking Someone Else's Poop Does Not Help Irritable Well Hey Just a Curiosity That Particular Study How Big Was It and Are You I Do Think the Methods Were an Effort to Be Disk and Totally Conclusive on That Element Now I'm Sure It's Not and I Don't Member Lussier Got off Public Results I'm Only Curious Because We've Seen in the past but Sometimes You Can Hundred and 75 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West That Just Became the Sexiest Man in This Restaurant Yeah Yeah Yeah I Did So so Anyways Brigham Young University Just Came out with Actually Did a Fecal Microbial Transplant Study on Weight Loss The – Documents and so Is Small Study but It Actually Did Not Show That Improved Weight Loss I Had a Patient That Did a Microbial Transplant from Her Sister and She Ended up Getting The Same Diseases As Her Sister Though She Developed Acne and Hypothyroidism and Put on Weight It's Really Interesting Though Because I Think It Even United Whenever That Study First Came out from Brigham Young That Was That There Probably Are Still Some Environmental or Extrinsic Controls That There Probably Weren't Measured Because Did the Fecal Transplant Actually Have Number One Time to Change the Habits of the Desires the Person Had Now It Seems like There's A Lot Of Different Facets Whenever You're Talking about Essentially a Human in the Wild of the Western Civilization and And All of the Different Offerings That You Can Have for Food Sources Etc. 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Know What You Can I Got the Good Imagination I Imagine That Is Interesting No and We Did Get Asked about That Quite a Bit at the Procedure Clinic About What You Know about Fecal Transplants but I Think There's Still Time Left to Discover If It's Well so It's the Brakes of Been Put on It Because Just Recently That Study, We Have People Died Two People Died from Getting a Fecal Transplant Because the There Was a Bacterium That Yeah That's What I Was in Salmon There's That Negative Outweighing the Positive Right Because There's so Much Negative from Its Waste Right I Will yet so Technically That's True but That's It Has Your Micro Biome and It Has A Lot Of Dead Things Is a Ton of Waste in It and You Know Poop Is Extremely Complex We Don't Really Quite Understand What to Do with It or How to Make It Better but We Do Know That Your Micro Biomes Your Genome within Your Genome We Need to Start Treating That Accordingly Give It What It Wants You Start Having A High Process with High Sugar Food You're Going to Have Bacteria That Are Going to Proliferate More I Will Start Sending Signals to Your Brain to Ask for More of That so Are You in Control Or Is Your Bacteria in Control of You That's the Interesting Thing Yeah Definitely Has Many Other No Words No That's That's We Just Waited Technically for Quick Studies Today NL Just Came out but Right Now I Got I Got I like Commit to One and Do a Deep Dive on It but We Were Able to Come to Cover the Cover Basis Rather While They Want to Gain It Well Travis Walking the Show Thank You Ashram so You Were Born in Carrollton Texas Correct Yes and Currently Now and of Course We All Teasing but We Can't Worried Asked Not to Totally Reveal Exactly What Farms It Was a Represent What Company That You with but That Won't Prevent Us from Talking about the Journey to Get to Where You Are Now so It Will… Let's Go Ahead and Cleverly Were Microfiber but the Reality Is Is That the Pharmaceutical Industry Has Been under Fire for the Last Decade or so Though Sure That the Regulations What Can Be Said What You Can Be Represented Have Really Been Ratcheted down in Some Part of the Fun I Want to Do Today's Talk about My Journey As the Doctor Where There Was No Limit Free-For-All It Was a Free-For-All to Now Would You like to Know You Can't Say Anything And I Can't Bring You Anything and We Can't Do Anything and Everything's under Tight Regulations It's Morphed A Lot I Mean Definitely over the Last Three Decades It's Probably Not a Recognizable Profession When It Was 30 Years Ago Compared to What Is Now Yesterday There's a Guy That That Worked with On the Primary Care Side That Will Just Call MAC Outright and He Was 60 Something Years Old He'd Been through He Made It through like Eight Different Layoffs over The Course of His Career Right Me Just Could Not Kill This Guy And He Was a Fixture Every Wednesday He's in This Particular Office Right and I Just Asking Him and Talking to Him about What The Industry Was like 30 Years Ago When I Came into It I Mean You I Missed out on On All of That Right and You Know It's It's the Only Sales Job Really That I Can Think of Where It's Not Okay to Take Your Customer to Dinner or Take Your Customer out for a Drink or out to Play Golf or or Whatever the Scenario Might Be I Mean Yeah One of My Best Friends Is His Family Owns a PVC Pipe Manufacturing Company Right They Live on That They Live on Entertaining Their Customers I Mean It's Expected Brian and I Is Not Funny Because Doctors Now Are so Scared Especially with Happen to Some Hospitals Doctrine Hospitals the Stuff That If You Own It If You Do Anything in Medicine I Do Not Want I Don't Take Any Money from You I Do Not Want to I Feel like a The High-Level College Recruit Just like Now What I Will Pay for My Own and Because He Is There so Much Fear on the Doctor and Roots like Look at You Being Influenced And the Reality Is There Was A Lot Of Money to Influence People's Behavior and That's What That's Why the Relations Came 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It’s a new year at the Life Listened Network and we’re trying to make 2018 the best year ever! Join hosts Kirsten and Graham as we devote the entire month to improving our lives, our homes, and ourselves… one week at a time. On this episode of the Home Hour, we dive right into a topic that touches every area of our lives and our families: BUDGETING!!! We sit down with America’s Cheapest Family, The Economides, to talk about why a budget is so important, how get ourselves in the right place mentally to plan a budget, practical ways to execute your budget, and how to keep life fun without breaking your budget. Steve & Annette Economides are NY Times Best Selling Authors, parents of five grown children, and Family Finance Experts. They are passionate about living the frugal lifestyle and sharing the fun, laughter, and freedom they’ve experienced. This has led them to write three books: America’s Cheapest Family gets You Right on the Money; Cut Your Grocery Bill in Half; The MoneySmart Family System – Teaching Financial Independence to Children of Every Age. Steve & Annette’s enthusiasm about household finances has earned them appearances on Good Morning America, Today Show, Dr. Phil, CNN, Fox News, 20/20, Nightline, Yahoo Finance, People Magazine and many more. SURVEY SAYS….. Hey Home Hour listeners, we would LOVE your feedback to make the Home Hour even better! Please Click HERE to take our short survey! Thanks so much! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On our first episode, we talk the VMAs, the Bachelorette, Taylor Swift, and all things pop culture. We include our weekly segments "You Right" and "Pass To Fail".

BANG! @southernvangard #radio Ep 037! Hey - if you didn’t know already, we’re on #iTunes & #Stitcher now! Don’t worry, #Soundcloud & #Mixcloud are still up as well, just make sure wherever you listen, you #follow #like #reshare #tweet #review #comment - it really is important! Meeks couldn’t hang out for the entire show this week, but we managed to get the homie #BigKenLuv hold down co-host duties with me - just like old times at #WKU #WWHR radio in the mid-late #90s. This week’s interview, you ask? THIRSTIN HOWL the 3RD!! Fresh off his appearance on #SachaJenkins #FreshDressed and on the verge of unleashing #LoLife #Clothing alongside #WillieEsco #Coogi & #Etonic - we sit down with the #Brownsville #PoloRican for a great chat. Make sure and check out snippets at the end of this week’s show and stay tuned for the full interview on Thursday. Hands down the #HardestWorkingPodcast out right now, get up, get into it, get involved! // #download #stream #listen #enjoy // southernvangard.com // @southernvangard on @itunes @stitcherradio @soundcloud @mixcloud // #hiphop #rap #underground #DJ #mix #interviews #podcast #ATL #WORLDWIDE Recorded live September 13, 2015 @ Dirty Blanket Studios, Marietta, GA southernvangard.com @southernvangard on @soundcloud @mixcloud twitter/IG: @jondoeatl @southernvangard @cappuccinomeeks *Inst beds by Deacon the Villain "Beautiful People" - Thirstin Howl feat. The Liknuts (Tha Alkaholiks & The Beatnuts) "Wilkes Booth" - Verbal Kent feat. Skyzoo (prod. Marco Polo) "Finding A New Balance On A Boogie Board" - Grizzly Gato feat. Homeboy Sandman "Go Nuts" - TP.SO & 2 Hungry Bros "Ghosts Don't Lie" - Deacon the Villain feat. Natti "You Right" - Juan Deuce feat. DJ Mekalek (prod. J57) "Typ Statik" - Typ-Ill (prod. Statik Selektah) "Feel This" - J-Live "Black Bodies" - Supastition "Triple Beams" - Apollo Brown feat. Westside Gunn & Planet Asia "Dopeman" - Redman feat. StresMatic "Hustle Remarkable" - Thirstin Howl feat. Sadat X & Shabaam Sahdeeq "Rap Science" - SmooVth & Confidence (cuts by D.J Technic) "Fendi Seats" - Westside Gunn & Conway Thirstin Howl Interview Snippets

MPT Podcast 22 - Is a Concierge Practice Model Right for You? with guest Mike Meikle, Hawkthorne Group. This Issue (3:29): What is a direct pay reimbursement model? Who typically opts out of insurance reimbursements? What motivates physicians to change to a 'concierge' practice model?   [smart_track_player url="http://mptaudio.s3.amazonaws.com/$emed$podcast/MPT_podcast_22.mp3" title="MPT Podcast 22-Is a Concierge Practice Model Right for You?" ] Right-click to download