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For over fifty years, Cisco has been piloting rafts down the Rio Grande and sharing captivating stories around New Mexico campfires. They call him a living legend. It all started with tree riding (yes, tree riding), tequila, and a $2/hour carpentry gig. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com What Happened: I once thought success had to come from tech startups, corner offices, and polished résumés. But then I listened to Cisco's story—this guy who started out rafting New Mexico's Rio Grande for $25 a day, with a sombrero that flopped like a soggy tortilla every time it rained. One day, after winning a state dance contest (both kinds: country AND western), he walks into a hat shop and leaves with a five-inch bull rider felt hat. That hat wasn't just style—it was survival. When waves from the Taos Box smacked you in the face mid-rapid, that hat kept your eyes dry and your focus sharp. Cisco didn't just ride rapids. He rode the changing tides of culture, climate, and conservation, using his raft—and his stories—to teach generations about stewardship, resilience, and why you never, ever ride a pine tree like a bucking bronco (ask the guy with the fused spine). Principle: Success isn't always loud. Sometimes it's a black hat, a steady current, and the quiet consistency of showing up for 50 years. It's not about chasing trends—it's about choosing a life that aligns with your spirit, your landscape, and the legacy you want to leave behind. Transition: The truth is, a lot of us are paddling like mad trying to keep up—with tech, with trends, with whatever success is "supposed" to look like. But if you've ever felt like you're not made for that pace, if cubicles make your soul itch, or if you've ever dreamed of more meaning in your work… you're not alone. That's Why: That's why this episode with Cisco isn't just a nostalgia trip—it's a reminder that there's a different kind of success. One rooted in place, in culture, in connection. This episode shows how adventure, storytelling, and soulful business can intertwine in the most unexpected, enduring ways. Call to Action: If you've ever felt like your path doesn't fit the traditional mold, listen to this episode. It's time to stop chasing someone else's idea of success—and start crafting your own story. [Listen to the episode now.] Show Notes Cisco Guevara https://www.losriosriverrunners.com/ Storyteller.com New Mexico Tourism- Ride the Rio with Cisco Taos News: Cisco Guevara on why river guides make great storytellers

Enjoy this replay of EP 373 with Joshua Schwartz and Travel Creel. Today on episode 373 of the outdoor biz podcast I'm talking with Travel Creel founder and chef Joshua Schwartz. Joshua and his team love to fish! Their goal is to combine world-class fishing destinations with comfortable accommodations and outstanding dining experiences. Facebook Twitter Instagram The Outdoor Biz Podcast Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter HERE. I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: email: rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com   Show Notes How'd you get into cooking? So, my grandfather owned a French bistro, so I kind of grew up in a restaurant as a kid, and he passed away when I was pretty young, and didn't really know how to deal with his passing. Didn't really understand grief and everyone was really upset. My family, my mom, my dad, my sister were all upset and I didn't really know what to do cuz I wasn't feeling upset, but I didn't know how to deal with it. And my mom's like, you, everyone deals with grief differently, so you just need to choose what you wanna do and how you wanna deal with it. And I said, well, I'm just gonna be a chef like grandpa was. Oh, cool. And that was really kind of like, I set my sights on it and I never looked back. So tell us about your cooking career. You cooked at the French Laundry, Bouchon, and Per Se Yeah, so I started cooking at 14 professionally and worked my way through some of local restaurants and met a chef when I was in high school, who was an instructor at the New England Culinary Institute, and he worked for Thomas Keller at his original restaurant in New York called Rakel. He helped me get set up going to the New England Culinary Institute. Which, which is where I went to school in Vermont. And my first externship, from the way that school worked was you did six months at school, six months as an externship working in a professional kitchen. And then back to school for six months and then back out in the field for six more months. And then you graduated. So my first externship was in New York working for David Bouley at the original Bouley on Duane and Houston. And that was my introduction to fine dining. When did you have time to pick up fly fishing? When I was working at the French Laundry we started the project of Buchon and me and another chef friend Jeff Cerciello, we were going to be the sous chefs at Buchon. So we, we were helping with that project and everything was going really well, but it was kind of slow-moving, you know, building a restaurant out and starting it from the ground. , it was slow-moving. So we had, we had a lot of free time. I mean, not a lot, but more than normal. And he asked me if I wanted to go up and fish go fish with him up on Hat Creek. Which is, you know, a beautiful Spring Creek in Northern California. I had grown up fishing as a kid. My grandmother used to take me flounder fishing off the dock on Long Island as a kid. And, and then we moved to Pennsylvania when I was a little bit older and we had ponds in every corner. And I used to use my spin rod and catch bass left and right. And that was kind of like a normal summer routine for me. So I loved fishing. But I'd never fly fished before. And I caught my first fish on a dry fly and that was it. I mean, on the way home, I overdrew my bank account and bought a fly rod a fly. waiters and boots at the fly shop in Redding. I remember it specifically cause I overdrew my account. Right, right, right. But I was dead set on like, I'm gonna keep doing this. It's, yeah. So it's, it's a great sport to participate in. Yeah. And then that summer, like we took another, like, we, we all mountain bike and we took. A mountain biking trip up to Tahoe. And I remember one day we were, we were gonna do the Crest Trail and I was like, I'm gonna take the day off from biking and I'm gonna go fishing. And I went out to the East Carson and, and, and set myself up with a bob or rig for the first time and caught my first Subsurface on a fly rod, on a flash, a flashback, pheasant tail. And then I was just like, now I'm in it. So it was very cool. It was pretty awesome. And that was, that was the beginning. Then a couple of years later, what happened is I went to New York at that point and went to Per Se, and all my fly fishing gear went into a bin. So what was the inspiration for Travel Creel? How did those two things mesh into what you're doing today? So, a friend of mine has an outfitting company AC Fly Fishing out of Redding. And Anthony had approached me about helping him with a travel trip going to Louisiana for Redfish, and he said, you want to come along and you can go fishing and you'd cook for everybody? And I'm like yeah, dude. Like I get to basically go do this saltwater trip for free, right? Get to do some fishing and you know, all I gotta do is cook, like I can handle that. So it was a great introduction to travel and hospitality with travel. And I did it for a few years with him. We would do it every year. We'd set it all up and so he would just do like one, one international trip a year. It was one trip that I did with him. The whole thing is with saltwater fly fishing, there's no guarantee with fishing. And when you're in the business of creating experiences for people, you gotta work on your controllables. And the controllables are hospitality and you know, a good bed to sleep in, nice meals. All those things are controllable when the fishing's not right. And that was like the premise behind it. That's what we talked about a lot. And why it worked and it made sense to me and I was able to kind of excel in that world of knowing how to talk to fisherman because I was one of 'em. Right? On top of being able to create a great meal for them. And it just made a really good vibe in, in the lodge, you know? It's great. Yeah. And now Travel Creel came to life. Tell everybody what Travel Creel is. What do you do? So basically right around when Covid started, we had a trip to Louisiana planned. And what happened is we had the guides lined up, the lodges lined up, and then the clients bailed out because of Covid. And we kind of hit the panic button a little bit, what are we gonna do? And I was like, well, let me reach out to all my clients. I had started working at Del Gado and I had a kid and I got married I transitioned into guiding because it was a way for me to go fishing still Right. And make money. And my wife would be like, yeah, yeah, you can go 'cause you're making money. So I bought a drift boat. I learned how to row a drift boat and I started, on my weekends going up to Redding and guiding the Sac for trout and ended up getting a permit on the Trinity River and guiding the Trinity. Then that led to me guiding for coastal steelhead as well. The whole premise behind my guiding business was, I can't guarantee you're gonna catch a bunch of fish when we go steelhead fishing. But I guarantee you're gonna have a great lunch. So I had all these clients, right? So I told Anthony, listen, let me reach out to some of my guys and see if I can put together this group and we can still go. Literally in like 24 hours got the trip filled up. And that's when it kind of clicked in my head, like, maybe this is something I should be doing. Right. Maybe you know, I could change my role from being just the guy that goes along and fishes and cooks to the guy who puts the trips together. And really step up the hospitality. Take that killer lunch and turn it into a killer experience. And that's where Travel Creel was born. I wanna create a business where I can create these experiences, not just in Louisiana, but all over the country, and possibly all over the world. We should let everybody know as we're talking that Josh was out for a walk with his daughter and dog, so that's why you're activity in the background. So what are some of the most, let's start with most exotic places that you've taken a group to and kind of had to cook, camp, cook kind of thing? You know, I haven't really done much camp cooking. As far as these trips go, I try to make 'em a little bit more upscale. Where I try to find like a nice place for everyone to congregate. Most recently I think probably the out there place has been San Carlos in Baja for fishing, for Rooster Fish and Marlin. You know, it's kind of like the wild west of Baja. It's like old school, Baja. And as far as like logistics go for me and putting a trip together, it's probably been the most challenging, but most rewarding at the same time. So how do you, is it still word of mouth or how do you market the business? I started with just the clients that I have. And it's, you know, I'm only as good as the last trip I did and every, every little trip I do the word travels and, and you know, I have a client then tell four or five of his buddies and say, you gotta come with me on this next trip. and then those guys tell their friends and it's, it's a lot of word of mouth. And the other, the other part is I have a really great network of friends that are in the fly fishing industry that are all very supportive of what I'm doing. A lot of independent guides. I mean, you and I are talking today because of Dave Neal, Dave Neal. Shout out to Dave great guide. Yeah. He's a great friend and independent guide and supports what I do and, and has eaten my food and loves it. And someone like that I can reach out to him with a trip and be like, Hey, listen, I got two spots left to fill on this trip. and if you fill those spots, then I'll throw you a bone. And that kind of, that kind of stuff is really helpful too. And it's, it's come into play quite a few times, so that's perfect. Do you work all, do you also work with any fly shop? I have been working with George Revelle at Lost Coast Outfitters in San Francisco. So he basically puts together all the lists of gear and everything. I send it out to clients and then they get to contact George directly or the shop perfect, and get all those items they need for a trip. And in turn it's a very simple partnership where he helps me put those lists together. I promote him and he helps me fill seats. Do you get to do any other outdoor activities? No, probably not. You know, my kids have been wanting to go snowboarding this year and we're probably gonna get up there and do that. You know, a lot of everything we do is right here. We live in Sonoma County and we have, we have a big boat that we take out on the lake, or we take out in the bay. The kids like to go be pulled around in a tube or go water skiing. We try to get out on the boat as much as we can when there's nice weather. And we love bike rides. We do a little hiking here and there. Do you have any suggestions or advice for folks wanting to get into the fly fishing biz or outdoor biz? I think just get out there and experience it and get on the water and you don't know until you go, you gotta get out there and, and experience it and meet people and network. If you're looking to be a guide, get on that water. Learn from the guys that know the water the best. Obviously learn how to row a boat if you're gonna be running a drift boat. Exactly. Do you have any daily routines to keep your sanity? I'd say as far as daily routines mine is getting in my truck and turning it on some music and driving 45 minutes over the hill. A beautiful drive over through vineyards and the rolling hills here. In that 45-minute ride to and from work, I accomplish more in my head than I do accomplish when I'm at home or at work. It gives me a chance to clear my head. It gives me a chance to think about ideas. A lot of people ask me like, when do you have time to come up with ideas for some of your new dishes and stuff? I'm like, most of those ideas come to me while I'm driving to or from work. Do you read a lot? Do you have any favorite books? Books to give as? My mom was an English teacher and when you presented that question in email, I was like, I can't wait to get to it. I was kind of pushed to read as a kid. I'd say the most recent book that I read is Lords of the Fly. And you know, to me that that book sucked me right into that story. And I actually got to go to Homosassa last year and meet some of the players in that book. Since you're a cook, is there a favorite piece of gear that all of us that cook outside should have in our camp kitchen? Yeah. I think everyone should have, a Japanese Mandolin. They're not expensive. They're like 30 bucks. You can get 'em on Amazon. Watch your fingers cuz they're sharp. But like, it just is a game changer, especially when you're not in the home kitchen. If you're doing some outdoor cooking, then you can slice a slice, a cucumber or carrot, whatever, like within seconds. Okay. And it just adds to being able to work quicker and more efficiently when, you know, chopping onions or shallots or things like that. As we wrap up, is there anything else you'd like to say to our listeners? I'm just really stoked to be here talking to you about what I'm doing and if anyone's interested in doing a fun adventure and has a passion for fishing and fine food and great company to look us up and check out what we're doing. The website is Travel Creel Hospitality

Are you hungry for adventure and connection? Listen in to this replay of Episode 372 of of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle  Podcast featuring former pro snowboarder and Saturday's co-founder Josh Rosen. As host of Huckberry's recently launched series DIRT, Josh shares how the show reconnects and inspires viewers to explore the world of adventure, the outdoors, and cooking in the wild, their backyards, and homes.   Facebook Twitter Instagram The Outdoor Biz Podcast Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter HERE. I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: email: rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com   Show Notes: How'd you get connected with Huckberry? Yeah, it's been a really lovely, Experience with Huckberry. Initially, we worked on a project where, Kate West, who's the content director over at Huckberry, reached out to me cuz she had been in New York when I was there and worked for a nonprofit, bringing kids out. To the beach to surf and up into the mountains to snowboard from the inner city, which was really cool. And we helped out with that and, in any capacity we could, at Saturdays. And she had moved on and started working in Huckberry and asked if I was interested in doing, it's, they sell a really amazing, product called the, 72-hour shirt. Oh yeah. Which is this, it's. All the bells and whistles, antimicrobials, sweat, wicking, all that great stuff. But you're gonna essentially wear it and do anything you want for a couple of days, without a wash. So it's a great shirt to camp with and literally anything you're getting into. So before we get to the show, tell us about your cooking chat. Yeah, sure. Is that why you're there? it's interesting because the show always starts with meeting a chef, okay? And the chef always asks or has, so far, are you a chef? Okay. And my answer and the first time I was asked that my response was, No. I'm just a cooking enthusiast. I'm a food enthusiast. So how did the idea for dirt come to life? So Kate West came to Seattle to do this article for Huckberry with me about wearing the shirt. And we went out for 72 hours. It's the 72-hour shirt. And so that's the deal. It's like a, what can you do with this shirt in 72 hours? And I loved that task because I have always love to see how many activities I can accomplish in a day, so they came out and we went out to one of the San Juan Islands, which is our little chain of islands out here in the sound, beautiful spot. And it's a special place for sure. . , absolutely gorgeous. And we just, we went nuts. We did, the list is long, but we had these amazing couple of days, and somewhere in, in that time I posed to Kate that I had this idea for a food adventure show where essentially we do what we do on dirt, which is that we go to a place we meet with a chef, or the initial idea could also have been like a, somebody who's very connected to food in that city. And we got some information and that kind of set us off on our journey. How is this show different than other adventure travel shows? I think it's interesting. It's like until you work in a, you don't really look at that space that deeply, and after working in this space over the last year and l going around and looking at other adventured shows or on, things like YouTube catching cooks or food, food adventure pieces. It just feels. A lot of those shows and, nothing against them. There are some really great ones out there. We're really about the chef or the host. So what goes into deciding where to go? Is it driven by the food sources, the sustainability? It's a great question and I think we started in Seattle with no real distinct plan of where we were gonna go next because it was the trial episode and it was I think it was meeting with the people around, in that first episode in Seattle or at Washington State that we realized we can go anywhere. It was really liberating, right? Because initially maybe you gotta go to these really important big cities or, it was, we, there was a lot of discussions, but really it's we can go anywhere. We have and we've gone to New York cities, this last one, but we were in Minneapolis, and then we were in New Orleans and then, you know, there's. , there are amazing things happening everywhere. Yeah. It's just about going and looking and so we I think for us, a balance of places that are very obvious, like a New York City mixed with places like Minneapolis that are not necessarily places you like first on your list to visit. If you have a weekend off then of course like it's important that the product that Huckberry. is selling in the season. I'm very connected to that. So you don't actually work at Huckberry, but tell me about the brand. Was your perception of it beforehand and after you started working on the show? Did it change? It was a great beginning to it because I told you, I, I worked with on. Photoshoot with about the 72-hour shirt. I've always been very employee-focused. With my company. I think that the people that you have if they are, and you, I'm sure you experience this, if you go into a place where the employees are not treated well or Oh, yeah. Not respected or not supported. You just feel it immediately, you can smell it. And then you have these places where you can see that these people are respected and are paid appropriately and all of this. Right off the bat with Huckberry cuz there was a photographer and the producer and these people were on the shoot. You just sensed that this is a place where people are respected. And it felt very similar to Saturdays in that everybody felt like it was a common goal to deliver something that we're interested in. I don't work directly for Huckberry. I'm just doing this project for them, but I feel like part of that family and that's important to how I work in the world. Like any project that I do, I feel like it's really important that we're all passionately pushing a cool goal, and that's outdoors, right? So can you share anything with us about projects in the pipeline? So we are headed off, I'll say this, we are leaving the country. Which is really exciting. And I'll leave it at that. How did your outdoor lifestyle begin? I was born and raised, in Seattle to two very different parents in terms of the outdoor lifestyle. My mom is from Oregon, lived in a van, and was a river guide on the Salmon River. And then met my dad who is New York City born and raised. Moved as far away from New York City as he possibly could and stayed in the Continental US. I think he used a piece of string to see which one San Francisco or Seattle was further cuz he hated it. And this is the sixties, right? And he wanted to just be outdoors. He had this kind of romantic vision of the outdoors. And he assumed, Seattle would potentially have all the things he had seen in magazines, I believe. And he got out here and he had no practical experience with the outdoors at all. So tell us about your snowboarding career. Obviously, skiing led to snowboarding, and then you became a pro right? Yeah. So I skied it's interesting cuz I got to a certain place in skiing and then you either go, in my time you were into racing or you went into like mobile skiing or freestyle. There wasn't a big free ski community. And I watched snowboarding come up and it was all free ski. It was like the initial, original free ski. Like they just went everywhere, there were no rules. And I was a skateboarder so that energy, just like I knew it, right? I was like holding onto skiing cause I had done it for so many years, but I was like, that, there's something about that. And then it just looks more, it just felt more like skateboarding, like you were a rebel too. And 13-year-old little guy wants to be a rebel and explore that side of himself. So the middle school I was in had a ski bus and there were some, the cool kids were snowboarding and I was like, all right, I'm gonna try it. I went to a special high school where I only had to go once a week so that I could so I could take snowboarding as a job. And I started actually snowboarding professionally when I was in High School. And then you co-founded the surf-inspired brand Saturdays. What was your role there? So I moved out to New York. My dad's family was in New York City and so my entire life I visited and knew from a very young age that I wanted to be a part of New York City at some point in my life. And the second snowboarding ended and I realized that was probably a good time to make the shift in New York City I worked in fashion for six or seven years and different components of it, trying to find my space. What'd you do there? So I've always been interested in fashion since I was a young kid and living in Seattle, then, and to some degree now it's just not a very fashion-centric place. It's a land of waterproof clothing and comfortable clothing. And that doesn't lend itself generally to cutting-edge fashion. So going to New York was just eye-opening and there was something about the way people dressed and their independence, the styles they would create for themselves that were just so uniquely them, but somehow looked right. And when my buddies came to me discussing this idea for a surf shop, I thought maybe that'd be it, right? So we'd opened the surf shop and then maybe we could design our own. And it was this great experience, the classic New York experience where we came together, we found a little spot in Soho. And this is 2009 in a recession., which is actually a really great time to open something new and unique and I'll explain why. We were able to find a location very inexpensively cuz a lot of stuff was closing down and because we were so unique to that landscape, we garnered a lot of attention from the press because we were just an interesting thing, without any marketing dollars, does, marketing dollars had pretty much dried up around the city, and we were just filler for these magazines. They're like, oh, three guys opened a surf shop in Manhattan. It was all you needed for attention. So why did you leave? I lived at that point in New York after 10 years with Saturdays and then six years of being in New York before that for,15, 16 years and being a kid from the mountains and very connected to that there was a longing that I couldn't block outta my mind anymore. And I just had to come home and be back in my cozy space. Do you have any advice or suggestions for folks that might want to get into the adventure biz or outdoor biz? I think for me it was, it has just always been curiosity, right? And exploration and with the surf shops I have lots of young employees who are, starting their careers as whatever, the beginnings of whatever they would be. And I've had that question come from young people and my answer to them was to find the space you want to be in, and then experience as many pieces of that as you can, because it really takes doing a lot of stuff to figure out exactly. What suits you? Do you have a favorite piece of outdoor gear that's under a hundred dollars that you always have with you? I love that question. I discovered I mean, I've been fishing my whole life and I discovered this last summer I've seen them in the landscape, but it's this Tenkara fishing rod. It's just a totally different thing. It breaks down into this tiny thing and you can whip it out. And it's this beautiful, its own unique cast. But anyway I had a ton of fun with that and I keep that in my pack. Do you have any favorite books? Yeah. I do love to read. I feel like I'm very similar to a lot of people lately where I listen to a lot of stuff. I grew up surrounded by books and I read a lot as a young person, but I tend to listen to a lot of stuff. But I have been trying to buy Paper books of late. My most recent book I bought was that it was a, it's a translation of the Tao Te Ching by Steven Mitchell. Someone had of course posted an image of one of the pages of the book, and it just landed on me because the Tao Te Ching is just that sort of thing where you could pretty much open it to any page and it's just, it was written 4,000 years ago or something, but it is so wise it still hits you in the side of the head, right? As we wrap up, is there anything else you'd like to say to our listeners or ask of our listeners?  I'd love it if you go watch the show. One cool thing that the world we live in now, if you have any insight into what you liked, what you didn't, or what you can always comment on the bottom and it's encouraged and That's about it. Links Dirt Huckberry YouTube Josh on Instagram @rosen43  

 Today, we're talking with Nancy De Losa from AQTO Cycling Tours in Italy. For AQTO, the magic of riding in Italy is all about the challenge and reward. You get testing yourself on Italy's most exhilarating climbs and descents while immersing yourself in authentic Italian hospitality. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com   What Happened: We didn't mean to start a cycling tour business in Italy. No, really. It all started with a blog post. Damien rode a legendary vintage bike ride in Tuscany, blogged about it for his cycling apparel brand, and boom—emails started rolling in: “Do you run tours?” Cue the two of us looking at each other with raised eyebrows and saying, “...Maybe we do?” One spontaneous road trip, a few door knocks, and a hotel booking later—AQTO Cycling Tours was born. Here's the kicker: I'm not a cyclist. Not even close. I married one. I live with one. But cycling? Doesn't sing to my soul. Yoga and red wine, yes. Lycra and bike grease? Not so much. So I created something for the others like me—the non-cycling partners, the half-riders, the aspiring adventurers who want the Italian magic without the saddle sores. From curated cooking classes to 3,000-year-old olive trees, that little side program became a unique (and very loved) part of our brand. Principle: Just because you're not the “typical” expert in the room doesn't mean you don't belong in the business. In fact, your “different lens” might be the very thing that makes the experience more complete, more inclusive, and more memorable for everyone involved. Transition: A lot of us think we need to be “all in” on something to make it work—like being a hardcore cyclist to lead cycling tours. But the truth is, many adventure-based brands get stuck trying to serve only the enthusiasts. And in doing so, they forget about the partners, the dreamers, and the curious souls who crave the journey, just not the climbs. That's why so many businesses feel out of reach for the average person. They're built on the assumption that only experts belong. That's Why: That's why this episode of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast exists—to show how Nancy and Damien built a boutique Italian adventure company that doesn't just cater to cyclists, but to humans who crave culture, community, and challenge. Whether you ride or not, their approach is a masterclass in designing an inclusive, enriching experience that welcomes everyone at the table (and on the trail). Call to Action: Tired of feeling like adventures are only for “serious” athletes? It's frustrating when travel feels like a test, not a treat. That's why this episode is a must-listen—because there's a different way to explore. One that fits you. [Listen here to episode 506 now] Show Notes What what advice would you give someone who's never done an international cycling tour before but wants to give it a shot? I probably would say stop thinking about it and just do it.- Nancy De Losa Do you have a favorite book? Yes, it's called "Italian Joy" by Carla Olson. Favorite piece of cycling gear Q36.6 windshell Follow up with Nancy: AQTO Cycling  

“Even if you don't have the resources or time for a six-month trek, start where you are, with what you have. Every step outside is a step toward a life more fulfilled.”   Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com   How stuffing food into trash bags and hiking in tennis shoes planted the seed for a life of adventure. What Happened: Growing up, my family loved our little camping trips, and on one of them, my brothers and I convinced our parents to let us hike part of the Appalachian Trail overnight. (Big mistake — at least for our muscles.) We were wildly unprepared: sneakers from Kmart, trash bags over our shoulders instead of proper packs, and enough sore muscles to last a lifetime. I thought I was dying — but deep down, something lit up inside me. Even though every bone in my body hurt (and we ate an entire cooler of food afterward like ravenous raccoons), that night planted a seed. Over the years, I kept going back. Again and again. And that love for adventure grew into a walk across the entire Appalachian Trail… and eventually into fundraising hikes, family treks, bestselling books, and even TEDx talks. Not bad for a kid with a trash bag and a dream, right? Principle: Sometimes, the thing that feels the hardest at the beginning — the thing you think you're the worst at — is actually pointing straight at your biggest passion. Adventure (and success) doesn't start with the perfect gear, the perfect timing, or even knowing what you're doing. It starts by taking that messy, imperfect first step. And when you lean into it — not run away because it's hard — it can completely change your life. Transition: Most people think they have to have it all figured out before they start — the perfect trail shoes, the best plan, the ideal conditions. But waiting until you're "ready" is just another way of letting your dreams collect dust. If you've been feeling stuck, thinking you can't "start until" you have everything lined up… you're holding yourself back from the adventure that could change everything. That's why: That's why in this episode of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, we sat down with Jeff Alt to dig deep into how those messy, unglamorous first steps can transform into a life filled with meaning, impact, and unforgettable stories. You'll hear how Jeff turned a painful first hike into a movement, and why you don't need perfect gear, perfect conditions, or perfect timing to build an extraordinary adventure life. Call to Action (PAS framework in one sentence): If you're tired of feeling stuck, waiting for the “right” time to start your dream adventure (pain), and you're sick of watching opportunities pass you by while you hesitate (agitate), listen to this episode now and discover why the imperfect first step is the one that matters most (solution). Show Notes  If you could give one piece of advice to someone who's hesitant to get started, whether it's solo hiking or taking their family on hikes, long distance treks, what would you tell 'em?  Partner up with somebody who's done it. Or, if you've never been hiking you know, there, there's lots of outdoor clubs online clubs and they're, they're based in every city USA. Join that group, go to that talk at the outfitter. You know, a lot of your fears will be overcome just by hearing. "Oh. That's how you do that. Oh, you have to filter the water before you drink it."  And then if you're still like, I'm afraid to do this alone. Well, they say you shouldn't. Technically, go out backpacking alone anyway, right? So Go with a seasoned person for a night or two and mm-hmm. And learn the basics before you head off with your own family.   Do you have a favorite book?   Yes. Peter Jenkins, a Walk Across America  What about your favorite piece of outdoor gear? Under a hundred dollars?   Sea to Summit Air pillow.       

Norie brings decades of experience from her roles at National Geographic Traveler and as a contributor to National Geographic. She shares fascinating insights into adventure storytelling, the evolving landscape of tourism, and the powerful shift toward regenerative travel. Subject: What a Red Puffy Jacket, a Black Lab, and the Tetons Taught Me About Adventure I discovered the magic of nature—only after realizing my feet were literally black with dirt. - Norie Quitos What Happened: If you told 12-year-old me that one day I'd be preaching the gospel of nature and conservation on a podcast, she would've laughed in your face while clutching her Lisa Frank diary. Back then, I was a hardcore indoors kid. My travel dreams were less “hike the Andes” and more “sip coffee outside a museum in Paris.” Nature? Great in theory. From a safe, clean, bathroom-accessible distance. But life had other plans. Specifically, two kids and a deep desire for them to experience something I hadn't: the outdoors. Our first trip? My sister's backyard. Borrowed tent. Questionable gear. But hey—we survived. That spiraled into state park weekends, and eventually, a full-on wagon adventure at the foot of the Tetons. Cue canvas tents, no showers, and yes—leeches. I was not okay. My soles were blacker than a burnt marshmallow, and I seriously questioned my life choices… until someone said, “It's dirt, but it's not dirty.” Mind. Blown. That moment changed everything. Principle: Adventure doesn't require a plane ticket or a trust fund. It's not always epic views and adrenaline rushes. Sometimes, it's dirt, discomfort, and doing something that stretches you just enough to see the world—and yourself—a little differently. That shift in perspective? That's where the real story begins. It's not just about going places. It's about who you become because you did. Transition: But here's the thing… Most of us still think “adventure” only counts if it looks like a Patagonia ad. We think our stories aren't worth telling unless they involve wild landscapes or bucket list bragging rights. The problem? That belief keeps so many of us from starting. From exploring our own backyards. From seeing travel as a tool for transformation—not just content creation. That's Why: That's why this episode with Nori Quintos hit home. Because it's not just about where you go—it's about how you go. Nori's journey from suburban indoor kid to global storyteller proves that the adventure industry isn't just changing—it's opening up. She shares how regenerative travel is replacing tourism-as-usual, and why women over 50 are redefining what solo travel—and real power—looks like. Call to Action: Feeling stuck thinking your next adventure needs to be “epic” or expensive? That mindset's the real roadblock. Break free with Nori's story—because once you hear it, you'll realize the best journeys don't start with gear… they start with grit. Show Notes Adventure Travel Trade Association Adventure Travel Conservation Fund Eagle Creek Toad & Co

Today on episode 503 Jess Nepstad from Bru Trek joins me on The Show. Jess's LinkedIn profile leads with 'Positively impact people every day!' He says they have a great little company in Bonner, MT - with a team of wonderful people who all enjoy life, the outdoors, work, and friends. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com What Happened: When I was a kid, the phrase “adventure ready” meant slapping a chili can into a backpack and pedaling 20 miles with your best friend and no helmet. Jess Nesad's story took me right back. He and his buddy Mark did just that—bikes, backpacks, a plan (sort of), and zero water bottles. They made it to Luckock Park, camped under the stars, hiked to waterfalls, and sipped stream water like champions. It was rugged. It was real. And today? Jess is still chasing that kind of magic—but with a serious upgrade in gear and a lot more hydration. Fast forward a few decades, and he's the founder of BruTrek, building over-engineered outdoor coffee gear that could survive a bear attack. (Okay, slight exaggeration—but seriously, this stuff is tough.) Principle: The gear you carry reflects how you show up in your adventures—and your business. Cheap tools, whether it's instant coffee or uninspired branding, leave you flat. But when your tools are built for adventure—when they're rugged, intentional, and actually designed for how you live—everything changes. Transition: Most outdoor brands talk a big game. But few are built by people who've lived it from both sides: the free-range childhood adventures and the boardroom branding meetings. If you're tired of gear that breaks, branding that feels disconnected, or a business that doesn't feel like you, there's a reason for that. That's why… That's why this episode hits different. Jess bridges the gap between old-school outdoor grit and the next-gen mindset of thoughtful design, loyal community, and brand storytelling that actually means something. This episode isn't just about coffee—it's about creating a lifestyle that works as hard as you do. Call to Action: Still sipping cowboy coffee and calling it good? You deserve better. Don't let bad gear (or bad branding) hold you back from the adventures you dream of. Listen to this episode and find out how to blend grit, growth, and a damn good cup of coffee into your brand. Show Notes  Favorite piece of gear Neck Gators Favorite Bru Trek Gear: Steel Toe Favorite Book/ Authors Book:  John Irving Authors:  Thomas McGuane  Russell Rowland A B Gruthery Contact Jess Email: Facebook Instagram LinkedIn

Welcome back to the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, This week I'm joined by Triple Crown Hiker Carey Kish. A tireless hiker, outdoor and travel writer, Registered Maine Guide, and self-proclaimed certified fun-meister. Carey's the author of Beer Hiking New England and a longtime columnist whose stories have inspired outdoor lovers across Maine and beyond for over two decades. We dig into trails, tales, and yes . . . a few cold brews along the way. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com What Happened: I'll be honest—before I ever hiked a long trail, I thought “grizzly country” was just a phrase thrown around to add spice to trail stories. Dramatic? Sure. But let me tell you, when you're deep in the Bob Marshall Wilderness, carrying bear spray for the first time, sleeping in wild country with bear scat nearby, you start to feel what it means to not be top of the food chain. And no, I didn't see a grizzly. But they saw me. I know they saw me. But even wilder than the bears was the realization that after three long trails—Appalachian Trail, PCT, and CDT—I'd done it. Triple Crown, baby. I didn't even set out to do it. It just happened. One trail became two, and then I thought, “What the hell, might as well do the third.” It was grueling, wild, hilarious (beer man, reporting for duty), and full of more characters than a Quentin Tarantino film. But that finish at the Canadian border? That was everything. Principle: Here's the truth: You don't need to have the perfect plan. You don't need to start with all the gear dialed. You sure as heck don't need to wait for the right time. The only thing that really matters? That you go. Just start. One step. Then another. Adventures don't require perfection. They just need momentum. Transition: The problem is, most people let logistics, fear, or lack of a clear roadmap stop them from ever taking the first step. They think they need a six-month sabbatical, the latest gear, or some magical trail wisdom passed down by a bearded sage. They don't. What they really need is someone who's been there—who's faced the bears (literal and metaphorical), hit the wall, and kept going. That's why… That's why I brought Carrie Kish on the podcast. Because she's been through the highs and the lows—blisters, burnout, bourbon nights in the tent—and came out the other side with stories that prove you can do this. She's not just a hiker; she's a storyteller, a guide, and someone who's figured out how to keep putting one foot in front of the other, no matter what. Call to Action: If you've been dreaming of a big trail adventure but keep getting stuck in the planning—or worse, in the fear—this episode is your wake-up call. Stop waiting for perfect. Listen in now and discover how Carrie turned wild hikes and cold beers into a life well-lived (and how you can too).

Welcome to the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast. Today, on episode 501, Earl B. Hunter, Jr. from Black Folks Camp To make a second visit to The Show. is the Founder and President of Black Folks Camp Too — a marketing-driven business whose mission is to increase diversity in the outdoor industry by making it easier, more interesting, and more fun for Folks to go camping. He's an experienced business leader across multiple industries. He has been widely recognized for his ebullient personality, hard work ethic, and non-traditional approach to building relationships and closing deals. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com What Happened: It was the summer of 2017. I was clocking miles like a long-haul trucker, repping campers for a living. My 7-year-old son called me out—said I'd promised to take him to Mount Rushmore. He was right. I'd driven past it more times than I could count, but I'd never stopped. So we hit the road. We camped our way across the country, father and son, a Black duo in a tiny pop-up trailer, parking it beside some seriously decked-out RV setups. We saw the sights, roasted marshmallows, and somewhere near Albuquerque, we spotted something we hadn't seen in thousands of miles: another Black family camping. My son lit up and said, “Hey Daddy! Black people!” That moment stuck. We talked to the family—Kimberly and crew—and she said something that flipped a switch in my brain: “Why don't you change that then?” That “why not you?” hit hard. By the time we were driving up the California coast, the name Black Folks Camp Too was born. Principle: Too often, we wait for permission—permission to belong, to show up, to start something meaningful. But sometimes, it takes seeing the gap with your own eyes, feeling the silence in certain spaces, to realize: you're the one who's supposed to fill it. And in business, just like in the outdoors, if you're only serving the same people the same way… you're gonna miss the fire. The campfire, that is. Transition: Most people think getting more folks into the outdoors is about better gear or cool photos on Instagram. But that's not it. The real challenge is the invitation—and the welcome. And too many companies still don't know why the diversity gap exists, so they don't know how to fix it. That's why a lot of businesses are struggling. Not because there's no market—but because they don't see who they're ignoring. And even when they do? They get hung up on the word Black in the name… instead of focusing on the unity behind the mission. That's why: That's why this episode matters. Earl Hunter isn't just talking about camping—he's talking about culture, connection, and cracking open an industry that's been too exclusive for too long. He's not asking for handouts or kumbayas. He's showing up with data, vision, and a real plan to shift the outdoor industry before it goes broke. Call to Action (PAS style): If you've ever felt like the outdoor world wasn't built for you—or your brand's been stuck serving the same crowd—it's time to tune in. Ignoring the invitation problem won't fix it. But this episode will give you a fresh lens and a fire to take action.

Welcome Episode 500 of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast . . . Today I'm joined by Lindsay Cousley — a seasoned executive leader with deep roots in the outdoor, sporting goods, and wellness industries. He's helped build and scale global brands with heart, empathy, and a whole lot of strategic know-how. Outside the boardroom, Lindsay surfs, cycles, backpacks, hikes, and even plays rugby — living proof that adventure fuels leadership. Show Notes Lindsay Cousley Linkedin   What Backpacking the Alps at 14 Taught Me About Building Global Brands What Happened: When I was 14, I wasn't reading business books or plotting a career. I was deep in the Alps, sweating under a too-heavy pack, trying not to get left behind by a youth leader named Paul who thought “rest day” was code for “hike faster.” We carried everything on our backs, got lost a few times (intentionally or not, I still wonder), and somehow made it from France to Italy and back through Switzerland. It was magic. But here's the kicker—I didn't know it then, but that summer was shaping how I'd lead teams, sell products, and build brands. Fast forward a few decades, and I'm sitting in a boardroom, helping turn around an outdoor company. It's go time. No time for perfect plans, just the instinct to act, adapt, and trust the people around you. Sound familiar? That's wilderness training 101. Principle: Adventure doesn't just happen in the mountains. It shows up in every tough decision, every product pitch, and every “what now?” moment in business. The most successful leaders in the outdoor space don't wait for permission—they act, they adapt, and most importantly, they care. Passion for the outdoors isn't a cute brand trait—it's the fuel that drives resilient leadership. Transition: Too many folks think a successful outdoor career comes from the right resume or the right LinkedIn connections. But what's really holding them back isn't lack of experience—it's a lack of direction. They're stuck waiting to be “qualified,” not realizing that leadership often comes from showing up, not showing off. That's Why: That's why this episode is a must-listen. Lindsay Cousley doesn't just talk outdoor—he's lived it. From hauling gear across Europe as a teen to reviving struggling companies in the U.S., his journey is a masterclass in how passion, people, and a little grit can fuel leadership at any level. Call to Action: Still feeling like you're stuck watching others make moves in the outdoor space while you spin your wheels? That "meh" feeling about your impact isn't just in your head—it's a sign you need a new approach. Let Lindsay's story show you what's possible when you blend passion with purpose.

Welcome to episode 499 of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast. Today, I'm talking with Casey Hanisko. Casey is a distinguished leader in adventure travel. She's the former President of the Adventure Travel Trade Association and an executive coach helping tourism leaders navigate change. Recognized among the "50 Most Important Women in Travel," she shares her expertise through media, speaking engagements, and her "Leading Naturally" newsletter. Show Notes Casey Hanisko Linkedin Guest Focus Instagram Adventure Travel Trade Association The Leap That Terrified Me More Than Any Business Decision (And What It Taught Me About Leadership) Ever stood at the edge of something terrifying—knowing the only way forward is to leap, but every cell in your body is screaming, Nope? That was me on a canyon swing in Interlaken. Spoiler: I needed a push. You think making high-stakes decisions in business is tough? Try standing on the edge of a 300-foot drop, debating whether plummeting into the abyss is a good idea. There's a moment in adventure—and in leadership—where hesitation creeps in. Your palms sweat. Your mind races. And sometimes, you need someone to give you that push. What Happened: I'd like to think I'm pretty fearless. I've hiked, biked, and paddled my way through some of the world's most stunning (and challenging) landscapes. But nothing—not rock climbing, not waterfall jumping, not even running a business—prepared me for the sheer terror of standing on the edge of a canyon swing in Interlaken. Picture this: I'm perched on the platform, strapped in, heart pounding. My entire executive team—yes, the people I work with—are watching. The guy running the swing looks at me and asks, “Need a push?” ABSOLUTELY NOT! I sit there for two full minutes, locked in a battle with my own fear. Every rational thought in my brain says, Just do it. But my body? Oh, my body says, Are you out of your mind?! Then, the guy places a hand on my back. Just enough pressure to remind me: I either take the leap myself, or I'm going anyway. And that was it. I went. Terrified. Screaming. And, once I hit the swing… laughing. Principle: That moment on the canyon swing? It's leadership in a nutshell. Leadership requires courage. Sometimes, you're at the edge of a big decision, knowing you need to move—but fear holds you back. Sometimes, you need support. That guiding hand (or well-placed nudge) from someone who sees your potential, even when you doubt yourself. And often, the thing you dread most? Ends up being the most exhilarating experience of your life. Whether it's taking the leap into a leadership role, starting that business, or stepping into unknown territory—you're going to feel fear. That's normal. The key is to recognize it, hold it, and move forward anyway. Transition: The problem is, most people let fear stop them. They overthink. They hesitate. They tell themselves they need more time, more preparation, more certainty. But here's the truth: the perfect moment? It doesn't exist. Too many outdoor entrepreneurs and leaders stall out waiting for the “right time” to make their next move—whether that's scaling a business, stepping into leadership, or launching that dream trip. That's Why: That's why, in this episode of The Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, I sat down with Casey Esco—executive coach, adventure leader, and all-around expert on navigating uncertainty in business and the outdoors. She shares exactly how adventure can teach us to embrace risk, push through hesitation, and build the courage to lead (even when you're scared out of your mind). Call to Action: If fear has ever held you back from making a move—whether in your career, your business, or even your next adventure—you need to hear this episode. Because courage isn't about being fearless. It's about taking the leap anyway. #Outdoor Adventure, #Podcast, #Adventure Travel, #Leadership, #Coaching, #Outdoor Activities, #Nature, #Curiosity, #Camping, #Hiking, #Strategic Planning, #Storytelling, #Diversity, #Women Leaders, #Inclusivity, #Nature Inspired Coaching, #Outdoor Brands, #Business Strategy, #Personal Growth, #Passion, #Wellness, #Travel Experiences, #Adventure Community, #Outdoor Lifestyle, #Networking, #Conservation, #Adventure Stories

In this episode of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, we dive into upland bird hunting with Edgar Castillo—hunter, writer, and retired law enforcement officer. Edgar shares his unique background, how a neighbor introduced him and his father to hunting, and what led him to dedicate his outdoor life to chasing birds. We explore his favorite upland hunting destinations, the gear he never leaves behind, and his journey into outdoor writing. Plus, we discuss the critical role of public lands and conservation in keeping these adventures alive for future generations. Get ready for an inspiring and adventure-filled conversation with Edgar Castillo! Show Notes Huntsbirdz Kansas Bird Hunting United States Marine Corps What Happened: "When I first moved to the U.S. from Guatemala, hunting wasn't even a concept in my world. My family didn't do it. My dad didn't do it. It just wasn't a thing. But then our neighbor, Tom, took my dad under his wing and introduced him to the world of hunting—first waterfowl, then upland game. I, of course, tagged along, eager to be part of whatever my dad was doing. Everything was going great until one fateful day when Tom handed my dad some venison. My dad took one bite… and got violently sick. Not once, not twice, but every time he ate deer meat. Turns out, he was allergic to venison. That was it—deer hunting was officially off the table for our family. My dad stuck to birds, and so did I. Looking back, I could've ventured into hunting big game on my own. But I know myself—I go all in when I commit to something. If I started deer hunting, I'd be up to my ears in gear, obsessively tracking seasons and probably planning elk hunts across the country. So, I made a choice: stick to what I love, where the adventure is just as thrilling, and where I don't have to explain to my wife why I need a new deep freezer." Principle: Sometimes, the best decisions come from knowing your limits. It's easy to get caught up in the idea of doing everything—whether it's hunting, business, or life in general. But true mastery (and real joy) comes from focusing on what you truly love and getting really, really good at it. Transition: Too many people try to do it all. They think more = better, whether it's hunting, hobbies, or even running a business. But that's not always the case. The reality? Spreading yourself too thin often means never truly excelling at anything. That's Why: That's why, in this episode of The Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, I sat down with Edgar Castillo to talk about how he found his niche in upland hunting, why he never strayed into big game, and how his passion for storytelling and conservation led him to an unexpected writing career. If you've ever struggled with choosing your lane—or wondered how to make the most of the one you're in—you'll love this conversation. Call to Action: If you've ever felt like you're chasing too many things at once, this episode is for you. Learn how to find joy, adventure, and mastery in one passion—and how focusing can actually open up even bigger opportunities. Listen now to our latest episode here: #Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, #bird hunting, #Edgar Castillo Writer, #Outdoor Writers Association of America, #OWAA, #law enforcement, #United States Marine Corps, #hunting, #waterfowl, #upland game, #public lands, #Alaska, #ptarmigan, #grouse, #quail, #conservation, #wing shooting, #storytelling, #outdoor writing, #public land access, #mentoring, #outdoor recreation, #outdoor camp, #freelance writing  

Legendary Leo Lebon, hailed as the grandfather of adventure travel. Leo shares his incredible journey from humble beginnings in Belgium to co-founding the ground-breaking California-based company, MT Sobek, which helped launch the adventure travel industry. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Show Notes Leo Le Bon  Wanderlust Consulting MT Sobek  Thomas Cook's  Sierra Club  Colonel James Roberts,  Mountain Travel Nepal  Gurkha officer  Alan Steck  Richard Bangs  Mountain Lodges of Peru   What Happened: Picture this: You're young, your life's in flux, and your mom casually suggests, “Why don't you go visit my cousin in New York?”—a cousin you didn't even know existed. That's exactly how Leo Le Bon's adventure began. Fast forward a few months, and he's driving a stranger's car across America just to get his $50 deposit back. (Gas was 25 cents a gallon back then—can you imagine?) One thing led to another. A chance meeting. A hiking trip. A casual chat with a fellow climber who just happened to have connections in Nepal. And before he knew it, Leo wasn't just exploring—he was pioneering an entire industry. There were no guidebooks. No established trails. No GPS. Just a wild dream and a whole lot of figuring-it-out-as-you-go. And that's how adventure travel as we know it was born. Principle: The biggest adventures don't start with a perfect plan—they start with a yes. Leo didn't wait until he had everything figured out. He said yes to a cross-country road trip. Yes to a new job. Yes to a trek in Nepal before most people even knew where Nepal was. The truth? Most people sit around waiting for the “right time” to go after something big—whether it's an adventure, a new business, or a major life shift. But adventure (and success) doesn't work that way. You don't need certainty. You need a willingness to start. Transition: Too many people get stuck waiting for the stars to align before they chase their dreams. They tell themselves:

Today on Episode 496 I'm talking with Mattias Jansson from the National Pilgrim Center in Trondheim, Norway. I recently had the opportunity to hike the Pilgrim Path along Olav's Way, and if you get the chance, do it. Not only is the walk beautiful, but the history is quite interesting as well. Not only is the walk beautiful, but the history is quite interesting as well. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com What Happened I've done my fair share of hiking. From the John Muir Trail to the PCT, I thought I had a pretty solid handle on what makes an adventure worthwhile. But then I found myself in Norway, walking the Pilgrim Path to Nidaros Cathedral, and something shifted. It wasn't just the landscapes—though, let me tell you, those were next level. One day, we were trekking through misty mountains. The next, we were passing through sleepy villages, exchanging nods with locals who've seen hikers like us for centuries. And then there was that one wild day—the rain poured, the wind howled, and instead of hurrying through it, we stopped to make coffee by a quiet pond. No rush, no race, just being in the moment. That's when it hit me: This wasn't just a hike. It was something deeper. Something that had been calling to people for over a thousand years. It made me wonder: Why do we chase adventure? What are we really searching for? Principle Here's the truth: Many people think adventure is about ticking off trails, collecting miles, or conquering nature. But the best adventures? They change you. A pilgrimage isn't just about getting from point A to B. It's about stripping away the layers of everyday life—the distractions, the to-do lists, the noise—until all that's left is you, the trail, and whatever you're meant to discover along the way. Transition Many people don't realize it, but they're searching for more than just adventure. They're searching for meaning. And yet, so many never find it—not because they're not looking, but because they don't know where to look. And … That's Why… That's why, in this episode of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, we sat down with Mattias Jansson, a modern-day guide of these ancient trails. We talk about the Viking roots of the Pilgrim Path, the deep connection between adventure and self-discovery, and why people from all over the world are drawn to this experience today. Call to Action If you've ever felt stuck—like your adventures aren't quite scratching that itch anymore—this episode is for you. Because adventure isn't just about new places. It's about new perspectives.

This week, on episode 495, I'm talking with Will Schafer, founder of Altisnooze. The First-of-its-kind sleep aid for high-altitude. After struggling for years with sleeping during alpine adventures, Schafer came to learn from a sleep doctor that altitude insomnia is a thing. He connected with formulation experts to develop a natural solution, ALTISNOOZE. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com What Happened: For years, I chalked up my awful sleep in the mountains to bad luck. Every time I went to Summit County, Colorado, my nights were a mess—staring at the ceiling, waking up feeling like I'd been run over by a snowcat, and then trying to enjoy the outdoors while running on fumes. I blamed it on travel, excitement, bad pillows—you name it. But then I started noticing something weird. Friends on ski trips and camping adventures were having the same problem. Some of them, tough-as-nails hikers and backcountry warriors, were walking around like zombies after a single night at altitude. That's when I met Dr. Michael Breus, a legit sleep doctor, who hit me with a truth bomb: altitude insomnia is real. And worse? It affects up to 75% of people. Your body's struggling with low oxygen, which wrecks your sleep cycle, making it nearly impossible to rest. So, I set out on a mission to fix it. After a deep dive into research, testing a ridiculous amount of natural ingredients, and countless sleepless nights (for science), I created Altisnooze—a sleep aid designed specifically for high-altitude adventures, without the grogginess of melatonin. Principle: Bad sleep = bad adventure. Period. You can have the best gear, the most epic trail planned, and a perfect sunrise waiting for you—but if you don't sleep well, your trip is going to suck. Most people don't even realize altitude is the issue. They just assume they're bad sleepers, or that their body needs to “adjust.” But waiting around for a week to acclimate? Not ideal when your trip is only a few days long. Good sleep isn't just about comfort—it's about performance, recovery, and actually enjoying the adventure you planned. Transition: A lot of outdoor lovers deal with this and don't even realize what's holding them back. They push through exhaustion, drink too much caffeine, or try to knock themselves out with melatonin—only to wake up feeling worse. That's exactly why I created Altasnooze. Because when you finally fix your sleep at altitude, everything changes—your energy, your performance, your mood, and most importantly, how much fun you have. That's Why: …we want to introduce you to Altisnooze and just dropped an episode of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast with Will Schaefer, founder of Altisnooze. He went from being a sleep-deprived mess in the mountains to developing a game-changing solution for adventurers who want to feel fabulous at altitude. In this episode, we dive into the science of altitude insomnia, how it messes with your body, and what you can do to fix it—so your next high-altitude trip doesn't turn into a sleepless disaster. Call to Action: If you've ever struggled to sleep in the mountains, this episode is your wake-up call. (Pun intended.) Don't let altitude ruin your adventure—get the inside scoop on fixing your sleep at high elevation and feeling your best. #Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, #altitude insomnia, #AltiSnooze, #high altitude sleep aid, #altitude sickness, #sleep doctor, #Michael Breus, #adventure travel, #melatonin-free, #sleep disturbance, #alpinists, #electrolytes, #high altitude adventures, #natural supplements, #altitude symptoms

 This week on episode 494, I'm talking with Christian Beckwith, podcaster, founder, and executive director of the Teton Climbers Coalition. Christian has spent more than 30 years immersed in the world of alpinism. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Show Notes I've always thought I was tough—until I heard Christian Beckwith's story about soldiers in the 10th Mountain Division lugging 90-pound rucksacks up snowy peaks. Yeah, you read that right. Ninety pounds. I complain when my backpack has an extra water bottle. Christian didn't just stumble on this story; he's been living it. Picture this: a guy obsessed with climbing history starts digging into old summit registers (yes, that's a thing), trying to understand why climbing activity flatlined during WWII. What he found wasn't just a gap in the record—it was a portal into a hidden chapter of outdoor history. Turns out, the 10th Mountain Division wasn't just fighting battles overseas; they were rewriting the playbook for outdoor adventure. Their training? Skiing with ancient gear, battling blizzards, and carrying enough weight to break the spirit of any weekend warrior. And when they came home, they didn't just hang up their skis—they built the ski resorts and outdoor culture we know today. Here's the kicker: The adventures we take for granted today—ski trips, alpine climbing, even the gear we use—exist because of people who pushed past the limits of what was comfortable, convenient, or even reasonable. Growth doesn't come from playing it safe; it comes from leaning into discomfort, whether that's a literal 90-pound pack or the metaphorical weight of trying something new. Most people think adventure is about escaping comfort zones. But here's the truth: It's about what you bring back from the edge. If you've ever felt stuck—like your outdoor goals (or personal ones) are out of reach—it might be because you're missing the bigger picture: the legacy of resilience that shaped the very trails you're walking. That's why in this episode of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, Christian Beckwith shares how the forgotten grit of the 10th Mountain Division still shapes our outdoor experiences today. Their story isn't just history—it's a lesson in how to live with purpose, courage, and maybe even a heavier backpack (metaphorically speaking… unless you're into that). Feeling like your outdoor adventures lack depth or connection? It's not just you—most of us don't realize the roots that ground our passions. Don't let that disconnect hold you back. Discover the untold story behind your favorite outdoor spaces and find new inspiration for your own journey. Listen to the full episode here and get ready to carry your own “90-pound rucksack” in life—with pride. Ninety Pound Rucksack Podcast Camp Hale Teton Climbers Coalition  

 In episode 493 of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, I'm talking with Haley Stuart, filmmaker, environmentalist, and whitewater instructor. Haley joins us to discuss her work protecting rivers, collaborating with communities across the Americas, and raising awareness about mega hydroelectric impacts. Her journey inspires meaningful action for lasting environmental change. Show Notes What if I told you that rivers could teach us more about life than a self-help book ever could? What Happened: When Haley Stewart first dipped her paddle into a river, she wasn't chasing adrenaline—she was running headfirst into her fears. Growing up in suburban New York, she didn't even know kayaking was a sport. It wasn't until she attended a kayaking-focused high school (yes, those exist!) that she realized rivers weren't just a setting for adventures—they were life itself, rushing and relentless, filled with twists, turns, and lessons. At first, the sport terrified her. But over time, the pull of the water and the tight-knit community of paddlers won her over. What started as a hesitant curiosity turned into an unshakable passion. Traveling the world, Haley discovered the hard truth: many of the rivers she loved were under threat—from dams, mining, and neglect. She couldn't sit by and watch them disappear. That's when everything changed. She met indigenous communities who lived alongside these rivers, fighting daily battles to protect what had sustained them for generations. Haley realized something profound: saving rivers wasn't just about ecology—it was about people, too. And through her work, she's helping amplify their voices, blending storytelling, conservation, and sheer grit to make an impact. Principle: The heart of Haley's story? Real change starts when we listen. Listen to the rivers, the people who live near them, and the truth about what's really happening in the world's wildest places. Many of us dream of adventure, but few think about what happens when those landscapes are lost. It's not enough to explore the outdoors—we need to protect it. Transition: Too often, we underestimate the power of our choices—what we support, what we fight for, or even where we decide to paddle. We think, "Someone else will handle it," or "What difference can I make?" But here's the truth: you matter more than you think. Haley's work reminds us that our adventures and the decisions we make along the way can transform the fate of entire ecosystems and the communities they sustain. That's Why: That's why this week's episode of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast is a must-listen. Haley's journey from nervous kayaker to river conservationist will inspire you to think differently about the waterways we all rely on—and how you can play a role in preserving them. Call to Action: Are you ready to discover the adventure, responsibility, and heart that comes with loving rivers? Tune in to hear Haley's story. Don't just explore the outdoors—help protect it for the next generation. Amazonian Rivers Initiative Rios to Rivers Tuichi River Paddle Tribal Waters & Kayakimün

In today's episode, we have an inspiring conversation with Guides and Podcasters Jose and Sebastian Camarlinghi. We dive into the world of mountaineering and filmmaking, exploring how their shared passion for the outdoors has shaped their lives and careers. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Show Notes What Happens When a Mountain Guide and Filmmaker Team Up? What Happened: Do you know those stories your dad tells—the ones you've heard a million times but somehow still pull you in? That's how Voices de Montaña started. Growing up, I (Sebastian) was surrounded by tales of glaciers, daring rescues, and llamas trekking salt across Bolivia's rugged terrain. My dad, José, a mountain guide with decades of experience, always had a story worth telling. But here's the thing: these incredible moments were fading into the ether, known only to close friends and family. One day, after kicking around ideas for documentaries that felt too logistically impossible, we realized there had to be another way to share these mountain memories. That's when we decided: let's start a podcast. Just two guys, a love for storytelling, and a small but passionate team. And guess what? What started as an experiment to preserve these stories turned into a platform that captured the hearts of listeners across Latin America. From climbers to casual outdoor enthusiasts, people weren't just listening—they were connecting with these tales of adventure, resilience, and passion. Principle: Here's the truth: stories aren't just entertainment—they're bridges. They connect people to places, to history, and to one another. In a world overwhelmed by noise, the power of authentic storytelling cuts through. Whether it's the tale of a Bolivian climber turned hero in Pakistan or the rituals of llama caravans, these stories inspire and remind us why nature is worth exploring and protecting. Transition: But here's the thing: most of these stories might have been lost if we hadn't taken that first step. It's not easy carving out space in a niche that barely exists, but it's even harder to stay silent when you know your story matters. If you've ever felt like you're up against the impossible, whether it's launching a creative project, exploring a new path, or simply trying to make your voice heard, you're not alone. That's Why: That's why we started Voices de Montaña. It's not just about mountains or adventures—it's about keeping stories alive and inspiring a community to dream bigger, climb higher, and value the world around them. And in our latest episode, we share the journey of a Bolivian guide who risked it all to bring a legend home. If you're ready to connect with stories that inspire and remind you what's possible, Voices de Montaña is for you. Don't let your dreams—or someone else's story—fade into the background. Listen now and start your journey to the mountains here: [Insert Link]. Follow up: Voces de Montaña (Mountain Voices) YouTube   Sebastian's company is called psychefilms.com   Jose's tour operator company is called Over Andes   Key Words #mountain guiding, #filmmaking, #Bolivia, #mountaineering, #podcast, #La Paz, #Andes, #Amazon jungle, #glacier, #mountain culture, #scriptwriting, #documentary, #National Geographic, #BBC, #Discovery Channel, #Bolivian guide, #K2, #Broad Peak, #storytelling, #outdoor adventure, #Argentine audience, #Chilean audience, #glaciology, #climate change, #Llama caravans, #kayaking, #journey

Today on episode 491 I'm talking with Jennifer Kross and Emily Hessinger from Ducks Unlimited. Brought to you this week by Ducks Unlimited. Jennifer is an education biologist with Ducks Unlimited in the Great Plains region. Emily is a Cadet and Peer Leader for the North Dakota Waterfowl Brigade. Today on episode 491 I'm talking with Jennifer Kross and Emily Hessinger from Ducks Unlimited. Brought to you this week by Ducks Unlimited. Jennifer is an education biologist with Ducks Unlimited in the Great Plains region. Emily is a Cadet and Peer Leader for the North Dakota Waterfowl Brigade. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com  Brought to you this week by Ducks Unlimited. Show Notes Hook: From Marching at Dawn to Dissecting Ducks—Here's How One Camp Transformed My Love for Nature What Happened: Let me tell you about the camp experience I never knew I needed. It started with a lump of charcoal—literally. When I walked into the Rolling Plains Bobwhite Brigade camp, they handed me a bag with my name on it and a small chunk of coal inside. Then they told us, “Over the next five days, with heat and pressure, we're going to turn you into diamonds.” I laughed nervously and shot my mom a look that said, “What have you signed me up for?” Little did I know, this would be the week I'd learn how to dissect quail, march in unison, and develop leadership skills that would change the way I approach everything. From the minute my mom left, it was non-stop action. We were learning about habitat conservation, public speaking, and even how to work as a team (spoiler: teamwork while balancing on giant skis is no joke). But the most rewarding part? Seeing how a diverse group of kids with nothing in common except a passion for wildlife came together. One meal at a time, one group challenge at a time, we bonded. By the end of the week, we weren't just cadets—we were a team. And yes, my group won the marching competition. Not to brag or anything. Principle: What I learned at camp is something everyone should know: real change happens when we step out of our comfort zones. Whether it's speaking up, connecting with others, or learning to be okay with being a little different, every step forward adds up. Conservation isn't just about saving ducks or managing land—it's about building a community of people who care enough to make a difference. Transition: A lot of us dream about making an impact but feel like we don't have the tools or confidence to do it. Whether it's hesitating to volunteer, feeling too inexperienced, or not knowing where to start, those doubts can keep us stuck. That's why it's so important to have spaces like the North Dakota Waterfowl Brigade camp—a place where you not only learn about conservation but also discover who you are in the process. That's Why: That's why this week's episode of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast dives deep into how programs like Ducks Unlimited and youth camps are shaping future conservation leaders. These aren't just stories—they're blueprints for how we can all contribute to preserving our natural world while growing ourselves. Call to Action: If you've ever wanted to make an impact but didn't know where to start, this episode is for you. Don't wait for the perfect moment—find out how small steps can lead to big change. Listen to the episode here and get inspired to take action today.

Today on episode 490 I'm talking wtih Nash Billimoria. After a decade-long career in investment banking, he founded Re-Map and developed the High Impact Culture method to help the founders and leaders of growing companies to navigate their unique challenges, of scaling from 30 to 300 people. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com  Brought to you this week by Empowered, the maker of the incredible Luci Light.  Go to ricksaez.com/lucilight2025 Show Notes Burnout in the city or balance in the mountains? The surprising lesson every leader needs to learn. What Happened Picture this: You've just had the time of your life skiing through the untouched powder of Jackson Hole. Adrenaline's still coursing through you. The world feels alive, vibrant, right. Now fast forward to a gray, drizzly Monday morning in London. You're back at your desk in a high-rise, staring at the photos of your ski trip on your computer, wishing you were anywhere but there. That's the moment Nash Billamoria realized something profound: climbing the corporate ladder wasn't his mountain to summit. Years later, Nash is helping founders and teams rediscover what he learned on that fateful day—how to balance ambition, purpose, and joy while building high-performance organizations. He calls it the Tricorn Company model and named it Re-Map. Where companies don't just grow financially but thrive in well-being and social impact too. Principle Here's the truth: Success isn't about grinding yourself or your team into burnout. It's about balance. Just like in the backcountry, leaders need to know when to push, when to pivot, and how to bring their team along for the ride. In business, the stakes may not always be life-threatening, but the consequences of poor leadership are just as serious—disengaged teams, missed opportunities, and organizations that fizzle out instead of thriving. Transition Too often, leaders feel stuck. They focus so much on the numbers—hitting targets, securing funding, scaling up—that they forget the human side of leadership. This creates toxic environments, stifles innovation, and makes the path forward feel like a slog. That's Why That's why this week's episode of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast is a must-listen. Nash Billamoria shares how to create joyful, impactful, and high-performing teams—using lessons he's learned in both the boardroom and the backcountry. Call to Action If you've been searching for a way to lead with clarity and purpose while keeping your team inspired, this episode is for you. Don't let the grind hold you back. Tune in now to discover how to build a company—and a leadership style—that truly thrives.

In this episode of The Outdoor Biz Podcast, we welcome outdoor writer Dan Oko, who joins us to share his experiences and insights into the world of outdoor adventure and environmental storytelling.  Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Empowered, the maker of the incredible Luci Light.  Go to ricksaez.com/lucilight2025 Show Notes Have you ever wondered how someone born in the concrete jungle of New York City could transform into an outdoor adventurer, chasing salmon in Montana and rafting down the Rio Grande? Let me introduce you to Dan Oko, a guy whose life story sounds like a Hollywood script… if Hollywood scripts were written in hiking boots. Ever driven a beat-up Toyota Corolla through Montana like it's a 4x4? Dan Oko has—and he's got the stories to prove it. What Happened: Dan didn't grow up climbing mountains or rafting whitewater rivers. He was a kid with a fishing pole and a dad who owned a patch of land upstate. That's where it began—pulling bluegills out of a five-acre pond, exploring the woods, and imprinting on the wild. Fast forward to his twenties, and he's living in Seattle, backpacking the Olympic Peninsula, and soaking in the clash between environmentalists and loggers during the spotted owl controversy. He didn't just observe—he wrote. His curiosity drove him deeper into questions about land use, wildlife preservation, and how humans fit into it all. His adventures became the backbone of his storytelling: hitching rides on Montana rivers, hiking until the grid disappeared, and fishing wherever water touched land. Oh, and his car? A Toyota Corolla masquerading as an off-road truck. Let's just say, his photographer didn't appreciate the busted back window in winter. Principle: Dan's story isn't just about adventure—it's about perspective. He learned early that great storytelling isn't about the writer's opinion; it's about giving voice to the people, places, and wild landscapes that need it. His work reminds us that we're part of a bigger web of life, and the awe of the outdoors can change the way we see the world. That's Why: That's why this week's episode of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast is a must-listen. Dan shares how to embrace the wild, balance conservation with exploration, and rediscover that childlike awe for the outdoors. It's not just an interview—it's a wake-up call for anyone craving more adventure in their life. Are you ready to trade excuses for exploration? If you've ever felt stuck behind a desk, dreaming of big skies and wild trails, this episode is for you. Don't wait for the perfect moment—listen to Episode 488 now and get inspired to chase your own wild stories.

Today on this holiday replay of episode 467 of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, I'm speaking with climate scientist, writer, and backcountry skier, Anneka Williams. Welcome to episode 466 with climate scientist, writer, and backcountry skier, Anneka Williams.. Brought to you this week by Alabama Beaches and Roam Generation PR.  Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Alabama Beaches and Roam Generation PR Show Notes Most of us dream of grand adventures, but everyday responsibilities seem to pull us away. We settle for the occasional weekend hike or a vacation once a year while longing for something more thrilling and purposeful. You want to explore more of the world but feel tied down by routine. You crave adventure and meaningful experiences but aren't sure how to make them a consistent part of your life. You see others doing incredible things, like skiing the Himalayas or conducting research in the Arctic, and wonder, "Why not me?" We understand. Society has made you believe that real adventures are a rare luxury or only for a chosen few. But it's not your fault—no one told you it's possible to live a life full of exploration. That's why this episode with Anneka Williams, a climate scientist and adventurer, is so inspiring. In this conversation, you'll learn how she crafted a life full of global adventures, from skiing down icy peaks in Patagonia to studying climate change in the most remote corners of the world. Anneka's story will take you beyond the typical vacation. Imagine skiing as a child on the single-chair lift at Mad River Glen in Vermont, then fast-forward to skiing in Bhutan or studying gas emissions in the high-altitude Paramo of South America. This episode will show you that the world is a wild, beautiful place waiting to be explored—and you don't need to wait until retirement to do it. Here are three inspiring lessons from Anneka's adventurous life that you can apply to your own journey: Start young but keep exploring: Anneka's began skiing as a kid in Vermont, but she never stopped seeking new places to explore. Whether it's hiking the Andes or fieldwork in Chile, she proves that no matter where you start, the key is to keep pushing your boundaries. Mix work with play: She didn't choose between her career as a climate scientist and her love for the outdoors. Instead, she combined the two. From her fieldwork in Arctic Alaska to her free time backpacking in Patagonia, Anneka's adventures blend purpose with passion. Embrace the unknown: Anneka's trips to far-flung places like Bhutan or Columbia were filled with uncertainties and challenges, but those experiences shaped her most memorable adventures. The best stories come from stepping outside your comfort zone. Benefits of the Solution: Discover the world in a way most people only dream of: From mountains to jungles, following Anneka's example means you'll explore landscapes few get to experience. Adventure meets purpose: You won't just be sightseeing—you'll be part of something bigger, whether that's climate work or another passion that drives you to explore. Growth through exploration: The thrill of tackling new environments, cultures, and challenges will not only satisfy your adventurous spirit but also push you to grow in ways you never expected. Lasting message (A): The world is wide, wild, and waiting for you—don't wait for "someday" to start living your adventure. Tune into Episode 466 for an experience and motivation with Anneka Williams—a great listen the next time you "get outside!" Catch you out there, The Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast Team Brought to you this week by Alabama Beaches and Roam Generation PR #AnnekaWilliams, #climatescientist, #VermontSportsMagazine, #CamelsHump, #writingjourney, #ArcticTundra, #climatescience, #SaltLakeCity, #electricutilities, #climaterisks, #resiliencestrategies, #climatevariability, #RoamGenerationPR, #worldsailingjourney, #traveladventurelifestyle, #OutdoorAdventureLifestylePodcast, #VermontsMadRiverValley, #smallcommunity, #fieldworkinAlaska, #studyabroadinBhutan, #ParamointheAndes, #skiinginAntarctica, #technicalwriter, #datamodeling, #technologyintegration, #interactivemaps, #localclimateaction, #SanJuanRivertrip, #backpackinginPeru, #sustainabilityefforts, #wildfiresimpactonelectricity

2024 Holiday replay, Traveling with Experience Plus can launch a rewarding lifetime love for seeing and experiencing the world by bicycle. On a bike tour, you will pedal quiet roads, secluded paths, and carefully curated routes at your own pace. Show Notes Learn More 00:00 Family led bicycle tours in Italy, bilingual upbringing. 08:16 Tours focused on local culture. 13:31 Emphasis on local culture in training and tours. Interaction with cafes, supermarkets, and cultural experiences. 22:42 Started company with friends, expanded to tours in Europe and Costa Rica. 28:43 Monica and Maria have learned from their parents and experience in tour design for over 50 years. 32:04 Tour leaders gain experience, travel, and focus on local experiences for travelers. 41:29 Travel with panniers by bicycle or join a guided tour if you can't plan it yourself. 45:37 Pisa to Furli trip is popular with 5-7 yearly departures due to variety and timing. 48:23 Monica highly recommends bicycling in the Mediterranean region, particularly in Sardinia, and praises the Sardinian people. 57:45 Maria has fond memories of bike touring in Europe, particularly the Camino de Santiago. 58:50 "Missioners Iberia's impact lies in its historical and geographic insight on the Camino de Santiago." Favorite Books Rick: Barbara Savage, Miles from Nowhere, Stevenson's travels with a donkey, On The Road, Jack Kerouac Maria: Michner's Iberia Monica: I love guidebooks, Rough Guides, Lonely Planet, but the Blue Guide especially, and the Cadogan Favorite Piece of Gear Maria: mountain bike clips and pedals that have flats on both sides Monica: a classical jersey with those wonderful pockets that you can just carry everything you need is amazing Rick: you need a multi-tool, a pump, and a patch kit. Follow up: Experienceplus.com Next Steps If you enjoy interviews devoted to the outdoor industry, find us at the Outdoor Biz Podcast. We love likes and comments, and if you know someone who is also an outdoor enthusiast, go ahead and share our show with them, too. And be sure to Subscribe to our newsletter Keywords #Bike tours, #Italy, #ExperiencePlus, #Fort Collins, #Colorado, #Travel content, #Blog recipes, #Biking benefits, #Dinner with guests, #Navigation arrows, #Tour routes, #Artisan visits, #Olive oil tastings, #Group dinners, #Tour leader, #Hotel relationships, #Bike inventory, #Experiential learning, #Mediterranean biking, #Local culture, #Sardinia tour, #Cycling gear, #Camera technology, #Family-run hotels, #Norwegian tour, #Italian lessons, #Group time, #Free time, #Travel books, #Titanium bike fleet, #Ebikes, #GPS mapping systems Podcast produced using Descript, CastMagic Podcast hosted by Libsyn: sign up with code 'outdoorbizpod' for 20% OFF Show Notes powered by Castmagic Website powered by Wordpress Note: As an Affiliate of Amazon and others, I earn from qualifying purchases.

Thank you. Whether you've been tuning in every week, catching up on past episodes, or just discovered us this year, your support means the world. Because of you, we've shared some incredible stories, introduced you to inspiring guests, and hopefully sparked a little extra wanderlust in you. Show Notes Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com

Today I'm talking with Doni Belau. Doni fell in love with Paris when her sister took her there as a high school graduation gift. She knew then Paris and traveling would need to be a part of her life. After a girl's trip to Paris one year with friends, a light bulb went on. Doni realized something magical happens when a small group of women travel together to a place of great beauty and culture. So in 2009, she started Girls' Guide to the World. So she no longer had to choose between what she did and what she loved. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Show Notes

Show Notes the year end news is beginning to trickle out already.  The 2024 most listened-to podcast rankings from iHeartRadio changed things up a bit, sharing which shows were the most listened to by users based on which generation they fall into. Among Gen Alpha, a show with a school-like vibe ranks first as iHeart says Stuff You Missed in History Class was the most popular with the demographic of people born between 2010 and 2024. Among Gen Z listeners, This Is Important ranks on top.  Millennial users of iHeart most streamed the on-demand version of “The Breakfast Club” radio show. Gen X listeners had something in common with Gen Alpha — they both went for something in the History genre — but Gen Xers were more interested in the bad guys. The age group's biggest podcast was Behind the Bastards, the series that focuses on the worst people in history. Baby Boomers were more politically focused, with The Dan Bongino Show their top podcast pick in 2024. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com

This week on episode 483 of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, I'm talking with Anietra Hamper. Anietra Hamper is a trusted journalist having spent a successful career in television news working as an anchor and investigative reporter. Now, she is an award-winning outdoor and travel writer, book author, keynote speaker, and owner of ThreeWordPress. Show Notes Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Wolfgang Man and Beast Show Notes Ever wonder how a childhood dream leads to catching a fish bigger than your entire body? Spoiler alert: it involves nightcrawlers, pigtails, and a life lesson you'll never forget. What Happened: Let me take you back to where it all began: a little girl with red bows in her pigtails and a cane pole in her hand, standing on the shore of St. Mary's Lake. "My grandpa—a master outdoorsman—taught me the essentials of fishing: respect for nature, the thrill of the catch, and the joy of releasing what you don't plan to eat." “Dig those nightcrawlers, and I'll take you fishing,” he'd say. So, there I was, unbothered by the dirt or the worms, just focused on earning my spot on the lake. Fishing wasn't just a pastime; it was a gateway to appreciating the dew on the grass, the calls of morning geese, and the quiet magic of nature. Fast forward a few decades and countless fishing trips later, I found myself in a tiny Spanish village, Mecaninza. My goal? To catch the legendary wells catfish—monsters of the deep that grow to ridiculous sizes. That day, I hooked a fish so enormous I could've crawled inside like a sleeping bag. Holding it, I couldn't help but cry. Not for the sheer size of the catch but because, in that moment, I felt Grandpa's lessons come full circle. Principle: Here's the truth: the seeds of our passions are often planted early, and they grow with us in ways we can't always predict. For me, it was Grandpa's insistence on finding joy beyond the catch—the sound of frogs, the way sunlight dances on water, the respect for what we take from the earth. Whether you're an adventurer at heart or just finding your way into nature, the journey is about more than the destination. It's about the stories that shape us, the lessons that stick, and the memories we carry forward. Transition: But here's the thing: so many of us feel disconnected from this kind of life. Between work, deadlines, and everyday chaos, reconnecting with nature feels… impossible. Maybe you've never had a “Grandpa” moment to inspire you. Or maybe you're stuck thinking outdoor adventures are only for the pros. That's why we dove into this topic on the podcast—so you can see how anyone, from novice hikers to world-class anglers, can find their outdoor spark. Call to Action: Feeling stuck indoors and missing out on nature's magic? Stop waiting for “someday” to start exploring. Listen to our latest episode with Anitra Hamper and discover how one passion can change everything.

In our final episode of our multi-part series on planning and preparing for outdoor adventures, Emanuel Rose and I discuss planning the perfect road trip for camping and fishing Let's hit the road and get ready for adventure—one mile and one cast at a time! Show Notes Nature Bound Podcast with Emanuel Rose Yosemite Grand Canyon of the Tuolumne Tahoe to Yosemite Trail Kern River Mountain RIver Adventures Trinity Alps Sierra Ten Essentials Checklist Tea Candles   Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com  

Today, on episode 481 of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, I'm talking Adventure Travel Gear, Trends, and more with Eagle Creek CEO Travis Campbell Show Notes Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Wolfgang Man and Beast   Why Eagle Creek's Comeback Is the Ultimate Adventure Story Hook: “How an Undervalued Icon Made the Adventure Gear Comeback of the Decade” What Happened: I still remember my first Eagle Creek backpack. I'd just scraped together enough money from a summer job and felt like I'd made it. That bag saw every trip, every mishap, and every ‘adventure' (some more “oops” than wow). So, when I heard Eagle Creek was on the brink of being shut down, my heart sank. Enter Travis Campbell. In a world where big brands often lose touch with their roots, Travis—an outdoor enthusiast turned CEO—made a bold move. He stepped in, took the reins, and brought Eagle Creek back to life. Why? Because, like me, he understood what Eagle Creek means to adventure lovers: gear that doesn't just last but travels with purpose. Principle: Here's the thing: in the world of adventure travel, there's no room for compromises. Whether it's a zipper that breaks mid-trip or gear that fails when you need it most, adventurers need brands that understand the stakes. And that's what makes Eagle Creek's story so inspiring. Travis didn't just rescue a brand; he reignited its soul—crafting durable, sustainable, adventure-first gear that lives up to its legacy. Transition: But here's the catch: in today's saturated travel gear market, finding gear that's both reliable and sustainable feels harder than ever. Most travelers are stuck buying one-size-fits-all products that aren't made to withstand the rigors of real adventure. That's Why: That's why this episode of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast is a must-listen. Travis shares how Eagle Creek is reimagining travel gear with sustainability, repairability, and adventure at the forefront. It's not just a comeback story; it's a masterclass in how brands can honor their roots while evolving for the future. Call to Action: Struggling to find gear that can keep up with your adventures? Listen to this episode to discover how Eagle Creek's transformation is setting a new standard for adventure travel gear. Don't let the wrong gear ruin your next adventure—click here to tune in now!

In this episode of our multi-part series on planning and preparing for outdoor adventures, Emanuel Rose and I discuss Fly Fishing—things like techniques, hatches, locations, conservation, and more. Let's hit the road and get ready for adventure—one mile and one cast at a time! Show Notes Dry Fly Fishing  Stonefly pattern Caddis pattern Hopper Dropper McLoud River Salmon Fly hatch Drake hatch Sacramento River Leave no trace Visit the local Fly Shop, Forest Service or BLM   Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com

Today, on episode 479, I'm talking with Tim and Matt Ozerkov from Oz Lodge. Tim and Matt, along with Matt's wife, Heather, and their son, Jed, purchased property in Seward, Alaska, and have literally developed Oz Lodge from the ground up. Show Notes Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Wolfgang Man and Beast Follow up with Oz Lodge: adventuresofoz@gmail.com What Happened: When I was a kid, I dreamed of flying a bush plane to a little cabin perched on a lake in Alaska. Picture it: a rugged, untouched landscape, floatplanes bobbing on the dock, and a life that felt more adventure than routine. Fast forward to adulthood, and one day, after a series of serendipitous events (starting with a chat over coffee in a ski lodge), I got the chance to visit Alaska for a construction project. It was supposed to be a short gig. Instead, it became the start of an obsession. From the moment we flew in and saw bears with their cubs crossing the road, we were hooked. The wildlife, the raw beauty, the sheer wildness—it felt like stepping into a nature documentary. By the time we left, we couldn't shake the dream. My brother Matt, his wife Heather, and I decided it wasn't enough to just visit Alaska. We had to live it. And not just live it—but build something with our own hands. So, we bought 7 acres in Seward. One problem? There wasn't a lumber store in sight. What started as a plan to buy materials turned into us milling our own wood, snapping saw blades left and right, and learning by trial, error, and a little bit of YouTube. The result? Oz Lodge—a place where we share our passion for Alaska with anyone adventurous enough to visit. Principle: The truth is, the things that mean the most in life are never easy. Whether it's building a lodge from scratch or chasing a dream that feels way out of reach, you've got to love it enough to push through the long days, unexpected roadblocks, and snapped saw blades. Passion fuels progress, and that's what makes it all worth it. Transition: For anyone out there with a wild dream—whether it's starting a family business, building something from the ground up, or just chasing the next big adventure—there's one thing holding you back: the belief that the timing, resources, or circumstances need to be perfect. Spoiler alert: they never will be. That's Why: That's why we wanted to share this story on the podcast. Because if a couple of dreamers covered in sawdust can carve a life (and a road!) out of a cliffside in Alaska, you can tackle the thing that's been tugging at your heart too. And maybe our journey will give you the nudge you've been waiting for. Call to Action: If you've ever felt like the leap is too big, the obstacles too steep, or the dream too wild—this episode is for you. Join us as we share how we turned a crazy idea into a life-changing reality. Listen now and start chasing what sets your soul on fire. Book YOur Oz Lodge Adventure here: adventuresofoz@gmail.com

In this episode of our multi-part series on planning and preparing for outdoor adventures, Emanuel Rose and I discuss maximizing your Outdoor Adventure—things like setting up the perfect campsite, having a good view, cooking outdoors, and more. Let's hit the road and get ready for adventure—one mile and one cast at a time! Show Notes Rick Saez Emanuel Rose  Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com

David Mcllvaney describes himself as a rider, angler, hunter, and sentimentalist who lives in the Catskill Mountains, where he draws water and hues wood while pondering things big and small. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Eagle Creek Pac-It Organization Show Notes Question: What if you could live the outdoor lifestyle you dream about—and actually make it your life? Promise: Discover how one writer-angler-hunter turned his passion for the outdoors into a lifestyle that spans seasons, continents, and meaningful connections. The old way? Believing the outdoors is just a weekend escape. The new way? Letting it shape your story. Ever felt stuck, dreaming about a life of adventure but weighed down by daily responsibilities and not knowing where to start? You've probably: Struggled to make time for real outdoor experiences. Felt intimidated by the idea of pursuing adventure professionally. Thought it was too late to reconnect with nature the way you did as a kid. What that costs you: You miss out on moments that connect you to the wilderness—and to yourself. You lose opportunities to inspire others or share stories that matter. Worst of all, the longer you wait, the more disconnected you feel from the adventure you crave. I get it—life pulls us in every direction. Between work, family, and modern distractions, it feels impossible to press pause and find your path back to nature. But it's not your fault—society makes adventure seem like something we outgrow. The truth? It's still waiting for you. That's why this episode is a must-listen. David Mcllvaney shares how he turned his outdoor passions into a life of meaning, adventure, and stories worth telling. Think of this episode as your personal roadmap to embracing the outdoors in ways you never thought possible. David's story is proof: you don't need to be a wilderness survival expert to live closer to nature. It's about connection—whether you're fly-fishing in Iceland, writing about Patagonia, or sitting by a campfire in your backyard. It reminded me of that moment as a kid when you'd run wild through the woods, build forts, and poke at “dead stuff” with a stick. Adventure was instinctual. This episode will help you rediscover that feeling—and keep it. Here's what you'll learn: How to turn your passions into meaningful stories. David started by writing about his fly-fishing adventures—and sold every single one of his first stories. How to embrace the outdoors fully. From shedding the "layers" of daily life to truly connecting with your surroundings, David shares tips that make every trip unforgettable. How to create opportunities for yourself. Whether it's freelancing, connecting with editors, or repurposing content, David's journey is full of actionable advice. Benefits Reconnect deeply with nature. Whether it's a weekend escape or a life shift, you'll feel the joy of being part of the wilderness. Build stories worth sharing. Use David's advice to start documenting your adventures—and maybe even see your name in print. Live the life you've dreamed of. Turn your outdoor hobbies into a lifestyle that inspires and sustains you. We'll leave you with this: Life's greatest adventures aren't just about the places you visit—they're about how they change you. Don't wait for permission to live your outdoor story. Start now.  

This episode is part of our multi-part series on planning and preparing for outdoor adventures, Emanuel Rose and I are talking about how to prepare your vehicle for long road trips, including necessary maintenance, storage solutions, organization, and what anglers need to know about where to get licenses and permits and up to date fishing information. Today, we're talking about road trips—specifically planning the perfect road trip for camping and fishing. We'll cover how to map out the best route, pack for every scenario, and ensure you have all the right gear, so you're set for anything the road and the river throw your way. Let's hit the road and get ready for adventure—one mile and one cast at a time! Show Notes Rick Saez Emanuel Rose    Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com

Today on episode 475, I'm talking with Photographer and Writer Colleen Miniuk. Colleen has recently finished her adventure memoir, “So Said the River.” Her first appearance on the show was in Oct 23 on episode 239. Show Notes Beyond Hurricane Helene: Fuel Goods' Journey to Reconnect and Rebuild Together We Rise T-Shirts How to Stand Out as a Photographer by Being YOU Hey . . . 

Today, we're talking about road trips—specifically planning the perfect road trip for camping and fishing. We'll cover how to map out the best route, pack for every scenario, and ensure you have all the right gear, so you're set for anything the road and the river throw your way. Let's hit the road and get ready for adventure—one mile and one cast at a time! Show Notes Rick Saez Emanuel Rose onX Maps Google Maps Outdoor Writers Association of America 4 C's: Comfort, Clothing, Culinary and, Cleanliness Camp Chef, dual burner stove Luggable Loo Buddy Heater Propane Tanks    Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com

Today on episode 473 of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, I'm talking with Switchback Director Christina Henderson. We talk about the events Innovation, Synergy, and Community Building.  Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by alabamabeaches.com Show Notes: In this episode, host Rick Says is joined by Christina Henderson, Event Director of Switchback, a unique event that blends business, education, and community-building for the outdoor industry. Christina shares the inspiring story behind Switchback, its rapid growth, and how it's addressing the changing needs of outdoor professionals. Get ready to learn about the innovative ways Switchback is building community, fostering authentic connections, and leading with sustainability in the outdoor industry. Key Topics: Origins of Switchback and Industry Gaps Christina explains how Switchback emerged from the growing crossover between running and outdoor industries and the community's need for meaningful gathering spaces. Since its launch at the 2022 Running Event (TRE), Switchback has become a go-to resource for professionals looking to connect, learn, and grow within the industry. Switchback Spring Event Launch New for 2025, Switchback Spring will be a standalone event held from June 16-18 in Nashville, Tennessee. Christina outlines the event's focus on education, networking, and mentorship, with plans to create an immersive experience that feels more like a reunion than a trade show. Creating a Lasting, Authentic Community Community-building is at the heart of Switchback's mission. Christina discusses how smaller booth sizes and a compact venue layout foster deeper connections, adding an intentional layer of togetherness for attendees and brands. The goal? Keep the show accessible, authentic, and fun! Sustainability and Thoughtful Event Planning With a strong commitment to the environment, Switchback minimizes waste, reduces reliance on plastic, and encourages sustainable practices among exhibitors. These efforts are part of Switchback's long-term vision to balance growth with environmental responsibility. Future Growth and Industry Trends As consumer trends evolve, so does Switchback's approach. Through an advisory board, trailhead initiatives, and active listening, Switchback continually adapts to address the outdoor industry's most pressing needs. Christina shares plans for future partnerships, growth strategies, and ways Switchback is working to be the “pulse” of outdoor industry evolution. About Our Guest: Christina Henderson is the Event Director for Switchback, a trade show focused on building connections, sharing knowledge, and creating lasting change within the outdoor industry. With a background in event management and a deep passion for outdoor adventures, Christina leads the Switchback team with a focus on community, sustainability, and forward-thinking initiatives. Learn More & Connect: Switchback at TRE: November 19-21, 2024 Switchback Spring 2025: June 16-18, Gaylord Opryland Resort, Nashville, TN Get in Touch: Christina welcomes feedback and questions. For details on attending or partnering with Switchback, email: chenderson@divcom.com Sponsor Spotlight: Alabama Beaches - Whether you're looking for a family getaway or a solo adventure, Alabama's beaches offer beautiful sands, amazing seafood, and a perfect place to relax and recharge. Visit alabamabeaches.com to plan your adventure!

Tips to Capture Stunning Sunrise & Sunset Photos with a DSLR or Smartphone Show Notes Apps PhotoPills Photographers Ephemeris Dan Flores, Satisfi Labs Christina Henderson, Switchback  Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com  

This week, on episode 471 of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, I'm talking with Dan Flores, Satisfi Labs Head of Tourism. Dan and Satisfi Labs are key players in the industry's evolution.  Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Thrive Market Show Notes Curiosity: "If I had known back then that being curious would lead me to a career in AI and tourism innovation, I would've asked a lot more questions!" Dan Flores, Satisfi Labs Parable: Think of tourism as a river. If you stop paddling, you might float for a while, but eventually, the current will pull you in directions you don't want to go. Curiosity is your paddle. It keeps you exploring new waters, finding smoother routes, and avoiding obstacles. Without it, you're stuck, moving only where the current takes you. Principle: In leisure and tourism, curiosity and an open mind aren't just beneficial—they're necessary. With the rise of new technology, especially AI, those who stay curious and continuously explore new tools will not only survive but thrive. It's about constantly asking: "Is there a better way to do this?" and never getting too comfortable with "good enough." Transition: That's why now, more than ever, staying open to new ideas is vital. Whether it's AI, customer engagement strategies, or operational efficiency, those who embrace curiosity will be the ones who stay ahead. The biggest challenge holding back many tourism businesses is the belief that they already know what works, and they're hesitant to explore new opportunities—like AI—to improve efficiency and customer experience. Call to Action: So, if you've been feeling stuck in the old ways of doing things and want to see how embracing curiosity can lead to better outcomes, Reach out to Dan!  Email: dan.flores@satisfilabs.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-flores2022/ Satisfi Labs Website: https://satisfilabs.com/ Tune into Episode 471 for a wide-ranging conversation about AI tools in Tourism and more! It's a great listen the next time you "get outside!" Catch you out there, The Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast Team Brought to you this week by Thrive Market

Today's episode features my riff on the benefits and fun of a solo mini-adventure in a local park or the local public lands near you.  Facebook   Twitter   Website Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE

This week on episode 469 of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast, I'm speaking with visual storyteller and product designer Josiah Roe. Josiah is a visual storyteller and product designer. He believes that how you do what you do is as important as what you do. And that life is short, the world is big, and he wants to explore as much of it as he can before it gets dark. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Thrive Market Show Notes Why exploring deeper is more fulfilling than just hitting tourist spots. Think of Anthony Bourdain. Sure, he could have visited the usual tourist spots and called it a day, but what made him an icon was his curiosity. He found the beauty in meeting locals, eating their food, and experiencing life as they lived it. It wasn't about the destination; it was about the stories he unearthed along the way. It's easy to stick to the guidebook and rush through our travels. But here's the thing—when we do that, we miss out on the heart and soul of the places we visit. We lose the opportunity to see through the eyes of the locals, to witness the life that happens outside the tourist zones. That's why we created content like the Journal of Lost Time and events like Lost Places, to inspire deeper exploration and meaningful experiences. If you're tired of travel that feels like checking boxes and ready to experience the world with depth and curiosity, check out the Journal of Lost Time, and start uncovering the stories that matter. Tune into Episode 469 for an experience and motivation with Josiah Roe—a great listen the next time you "get outside!" Catch you out there, The Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast Team Brought to you this week by Thrive Market #visual storytelling, #content creation, #destination marketing, #outdoor adventure, #environmental issues, #We are Baja, #Southern California nostalgia, #California scenic drives, #Vanlife, #storytelling, #subsistence lifestyle, #trail running, #Simpler Ways marketplace, #tourism boards.

Today's episode features a conversation I had in Missoula, Montana while attending the annual Outdoor Media Summit with Kevin Paulson from Hunting Life Magazine. We riffed on the Outdoor Media Summit, Kevin's new position at AGLOW, the Association of Great Lakes Outdoor Writers, and a little more. Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE    

Welcome to episode 466 with climate scientist, writer, and backcountry skier, Anneka Williams.. Brought to you this week by Alabama Beaches and Roam Generation PR.  Facebook   Twitter   Instagram Love the show? Subscribe,  rate, review, and share! Sign up for my Newsletter  HERE I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here:  rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Alabama Beaches and Roam Generation PR Show Notes Most of us dream of grand adventures, but everyday responsibilities seem to pull us away. We settle for the occasional weekend hike or a vacation once a year while longing for something more thrilling and purposeful. You want to explore more of the world but feel tied down by routine. You crave adventure and meaningful experiences but aren't sure how to make them a consistent part of your life. You see others doing incredible things, like skiing the Himalayas or conducting research in the Arctic, and wonder, "Why not me?" We understand. Society has made you believe that real adventures are a rare luxury or only for a chosen few. But it's not your fault—no one told you it's possible to live a life full of exploration. That's why this episode with Anneka Williams, a climate scientist and adventurer, is so inspiring. In this conversation, you'll learn how she crafted a life full of global adventures, from skiing down icy peaks in Patagonia to studying climate change in the most remote corners of the world. Anneka's story will take you beyond the typical vacation. Imagine skiing as a child on the single-chair lift at Mad River Glen in Vermont, then fast-forward to skiing in Bhutan or studying gas emissions in the high-altitude Paramo of South America. This episode will show you that the world is a wild, beautiful place waiting to be explored—and you don't need to wait until retirement to do it. Here are three inspiring lessons from Anneka's adventurous life that you can apply to your own journey: Start young but keep exploring: Anneka's began skiing as a kid in Vermont, but she never stopped seeking new places to explore. Whether it's hiking the Andes or fieldwork in Chile, she proves that no matter where you start, the key is to keep pushing your boundaries. Mix work with play: She didn't choose between her career as a climate scientist and her love for the outdoors. Instead, she combined the two. From her fieldwork in Arctic Alaska to her free time backpacking in Patagonia, Anneka's adventures blend purpose with passion. Embrace the unknown: Anneka's trips to far-flung places like Bhutan or Columbia were filled with uncertainties and challenges, but those experiences shaped her most memorable adventures. The best stories come from stepping outside your comfort zone. Benefits of the Solution: Discover the world in a way most people only dream of: From mountains to jungles, following Anneka's example means you'll explore landscapes few get to experience. Adventure meets purpose: You won't just be sightseeing—you'll be part of something bigger, whether that's climate work or another passion that drives you to explore. Growth through exploration: The thrill of tackling new environments, cultures, and challenges will not only satisfy your adventurous spirit but also push you to grow in ways you never expected. Lasting message (A): The world is wide, wild, and waiting for you—don't wait for "someday" to start living your adventure. Tune into Episode 466 for an experience and motivation with Anneka Williams—a great listen the next time you "get outside!" Catch you out there, The Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast Team Brought to you this week by Alabama Beaches and Roam Generation PR #AnnekaWilliams, #climatescientist, #VermontSportsMagazine, #CamelsHump, #writingjourney, #ArcticTundra, #climatescience, #SaltLakeCity, #electricutilities, #climaterisks, #resiliencestrategies, #climatevariability, #RoamGenerationPR, #worldsailingjourney, #traveladventurelifestyle, #OutdoorAdventureLifestylePodcast, #VermontsMadRiverValley, #smallcommunity, #fieldworkinAlaska, #studyabroadinBhutan, #ParamointheAndes, #skiinginAntarctica, #technicalwriter, #datamodeling, #technologyintegration, #interactivemaps, #localclimateaction, #SanJuanRivertrip, #backpackinginPeru, #sustainabilityefforts, #wildfiresimpactonelectricity

Tips on Finding your Niche and Starting Your Podcast in Outdoor Adventure Podcasting Don't Miss EP 467 next week with climate scientist, writer, and backcountry skier, Anneka Williams. Anneka talks about her work as a climate scientist, writer and also has some great tips on how we can imorpove sustainability and conservation in our daily lives. Anneka Williams Facebook​ ​Twitter​ ​Instagram​ Love the show? Subscribe, ​rate, review, and share!​ Sign up for my Newsletter ​HERE​ I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: ​rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com

Today on episode 465 I'm talking with Sergio Ballivian. For over 40 years, Sergio has pursued his passion for adventure, always with a camera in hand. Sergio Photo Tours was born from those experiences—a desire to share the unique moments he's witnessed and to guide others in capturing the beauty and essence of those untamed places. Sergio says . . . “this isn't just about taking photos; it's about experiencing the world from a different perspective.” Facebook​ ​Twitter​ ​Instagram​ Love the show? Subscribe, ​rate, review, and share!​ Sign up for my Newsletter ​HERE​ I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: ​rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Alabama Beaches and Roam Generation PR Show Notes Welcom to episode 465  I'm talking with Sergio Ballivian. Brought to you this week by Alabama Beaches and Roam Generation PR. For over 40 years, Sergio has pursued his passion for adventure, always with a camera in hand. Sergio Photo Tours was born from those experiences—a desire to share the unique moments he's witnessed and to guide others in capturing the beauty and essence of those untamed places. Sergio says . . . “this isn't just about taking photos; it's about experiencing the world from a different perspective.”   Facebook​ ​Twitter​ ​Instagram​ Love the show? Subscribe, ​rate, review, and share!​ Sign up for my Newsletter ​HERE​ I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: ​rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Alabama Beaches and Roam Generation PR Show Notes What if you could capture the beauty of untamed landscapes while also building a career that pays for your adventures? This episode shows how Sergio didn't start with fancy equipment or a studio full of clients. He began his journey with a high school adventure in Bolivia, an old truck, and a camera he bought from a friend. Sound familiar? Whether you're shooting mountain landscapes or capturing wildlife, Sergio's story shows how the right mix of grit, passion, and strategic planning can take you from “weekend warrior” to outdoor industry pro. By tuning in, you'll discover key lessons from Sergio's journey to help you grow your outdoor career: Start small, but stay consistent: Sergio began with a pocket camera, snapping photos of the landscapes he loved. Keep your gear simple and focus on mastering the basics. Network with purpose: Sergio's career grew because he knew the power of connections. Build relationships with others in the outdoor world, but be authentic—people can spot a phony from a mile away. Monetize your skills over time: He didn't sell his first photo overnight. By refining his craft and eventually offering photography workshops, Sergio built his career piece by piece. Don't miss out—hit play now to uncover the secrets to blending your love of the outdoors with filmmaking! Follow up with Sergio: Website: https://www.sergiophoto.com/index Next Steps If you enjoy interviews devoted to the outdoor and adventure, find us at the Outdoor Adveneture Lifestyle podcast. We love likes and comments, and if you know someone who is also an outdoor enthusiast, go ahead and share our show with them, too. And be sure to Subscribe to our newsletter Keywords #Outdoor Adventure, #Photography, #Environmental Concerns, #Kathmandu Pollution, #Survival Mindset, #Adventure Travel, #Landscape Photography, #Technology and Nature, #Networking and Career, #Sustainable Travel Podcast produced using Descript, CastMagic Podcast hosted by Libsyn: sign up with code 'outdoorbizpod' for 20% OFF Show Notes powered by Castmagic Website powered by Wordpress Welcome to a podcast dedicated to outdoor enthusiasts looking to elevate their outdoor careers while embracing the freedom and joy of outdoor adventure. We dive deep into outdoor recreation, adventure travel and outdoor activities, helping you find the best outdoor jobs that fit your ideal outdoor life. Whether you're seeking career growth or just more time to get outdoors, we've got you covered. Tune into Episode 465 for an experience and motivation with Sergio Ballivian—a great listen the next time you "get outside!" Note: As an Affiliate of Amazon and others, I earn from qualifying purchases. Catch you out there, The Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast Team​

Don't Miss EP 465 next week with Sergio Ballivan.  Sergio has been capturing the untamed beauty of the world for over 40 years.  Sergio's love for capturing landscapes and sharing them with friends became a full-time career. He talked about leading Explore Bolivia and how he eventually focused on photography, turning his tours into official photography workshops by 2000. Sergio Ballivian Photography Fischer Creative Facebook​ ​Twitter​ ​Instagram​ Love the show? Subscribe, ​rate, review, and share!​ Sign up for my Newsletter ​HERE​ I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: ​rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com

Welcome to episode 463 of the Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast with Mike Banker. Mike Banker is the Chief Growth Officer at Fisher Creative, a media production studio known for capturing epic content from Earth's most iconic, and adventurous places. Mike is a multi-faceted writer, communicator, and media production jack-of-all-trades. Facebook​ ​Twitter​ ​Instagram​ Love the show? Subscribe, ​rate, review, and share!​ Sign up for my Newsletter ​HERE​ I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: ​rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Grammarly and Roam Generation PR Show Notes Have you ever wondered what it takes to turn your love for storytelling and the outdoors into a career in the creative industry? This episode explores how our guest transitioned from shooting amateur films on VHS tapes to crafting compelling stories in the world's most remote wildernesses. Whether you're dreaming of combining your passions or looking for insights into environmental filmmaking, this conversation will speak directly to your journey. By tuning in, you'll discover: How to combine your passions for the outdoors and creative storytelling into a successful career. Firsthand accounts of filming in Ukraine and capturing adventure documentaries. Practical tips on navigating the business side of outdoor filmmaking while maintaining an environmental ethos. Don't miss out—hit play now to uncover the secrets to blending your love of the outdoors with filmmaking! Follow up with Mike: mike@fishercreative.com Next Steps If you enjoy interviews devoted to the outdoor and adventure, find us at the Outdoor Adveneture Lifestyle podcast. We love likes and comments, and if you know someone who is also an outdoor enthusiast, go ahead and share our show with them, too. And be sure to Subscribe to our newsletter Keywords #SustainabilityEfforts, #Conservation, #WhitewaterTrips, #FilmingInChina, #MoraKnife, #AWalkInTheParkBook, #GrandCanyonAdventure, #NuclearWarAScenarioBook,  #BoulderOutdoorSurvivalSchool, #UkraineDocumentary, #FisherCreative, #ExpeditionEverest, #NationalGeographic, #EnvironmentalDocumentaries, #InPursuitOfPassive, #NetZeroHouseFilm Podcast produced using Descript, CastMagic Podcast hosted by Libsyn: sign up with code 'outdoorbizpod' for 20% OFF Show Notes powered by Castmagic Website powered by Wordpress Unleash your story and watch your brand thrive with Roam Generation PR. In the flood of content these days, brands often find themselves lost at sea. You struggle to connect and engage with the right audience at the right time. Roam Generation PR is your lifeline. They'll seamlessly connect your brand story with the ideal audience, driving results to make your brand thrive. Founded on a yacht while sailing worldwide, they bring a unique perspective to public relations because they live the lifestyle their partners represent. Note: As an Affiliate of Amazon and others, I earn from qualifying purchases. Welcome to a podcast dedicated to outdoor enthusiasts looking to elevate their outdoor careers while embracing the freedom and joy of outdoor adventure. We dive deep into outdoor recreation, adventure travel and outdoor activities, helping you find the best outdoor jobs that fit your ideal outdoor life. Whether you're seeking career growth or just more time to get outdoors, we've got you covered.

Welcome to episode 462 of the outdoor adventure lifestyle podcast with Outdoor Adventure Writer Clay Abney. Clay is a freelance outdoor and adventure travel writer living in the ‘wild and wonderful' state of West Virginia. He enjoys various outdoor activities and traveling as often as possible. Facebook​ ​Twitter​ ​Instagram​ Love the show? Subscribe, ​rate, review, and share!​ Sign up for my Newsletter ​HERE​ I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: ​rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Grammarly and Roam Generation PR Show Notes Learn More What are your favorite outdoor activities to do in South Carolina? 23:25 I just really do a lot of paddling, I mean, there's like literally Blackwater rivers are just, they call them Blackwater because there's no elevation to them. You don't seem to have any current at all because they almost look like swamps. What advice would you give to aspiring outdoor adventure travel writers?   17:44 I would say read. Write. If you're gonna pitch a, or if you're gonna write, if you wanna write for a certain outlet, make sure that you understand their voice. What they're trying to, what, so, It's great if you want to tell it in your words, but it may not be the voice of the publication that you're going after. Follow up:  https://www.clayabney.com/ Next Steps If you enjoy interviews devoted to the outdoor and adventure, find us at the Outdoor Adveneture Lifestyle podcast. We love likes and comments, and if you know someone who is also an outdoor enthusiast, go ahead and share our show with them, too. And be sure to Subscribe to our newsletter Keywords #Adventure travel, #outdoor activities, #stand-up paddleboarding, #Norway travel, #Greenland travel, #global travel, #sustainable tourism, #local cuisine, #freelance writing, #rafting, #West Virginia, Podcast produced using Descript, CastMagic Podcast hosted by Libsyn: sign up with code 'outdoorbizpod' for 20% OFF Show Notes powered by Castmagic Website powered by Wordpress Note: As an Affiliate of Amazon and others, I earn from qualifying purchases. Welcome to a podcast dedicated to outdoor enthusiasts looking to elevate their outdoor careers while embracing the freedom and joy of outdoor adventure. We dive deep into outdoor recreation, adventure travel and outdoor activities, helping you find the best outdoor jobs that fit your ideal outdoor life. Whether you're seeking career growth or just more time to get outdoors, we've got you covered.

Settled in Chilean Patagonia in 2004, David Dittmar is convinced that outdoor life is the best therapy for the body and soul. You'll hear how David leveraged his climbing skills into his own guiding business, adapted his offerings to meet the market and his advice for you to do the same. Facebook​ ​Twitter​ ​Instagram​ Love the show? Subscribe, ​rate, review, and share!​ Sign up for my Newsletter ​HERE​ I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: ​rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Grammarly and Roam Generation PR Show Notes Learn More Dittmar Adventures Website Favorite Books The Savage Detectives, Roberto Bolano Favorite Gear under $100 Suunto Compass Follow up: Instagram Next Steps If you enjoy interviews devoted to the outdoor industry, find us at the Outdoor Biz Podcast. We love likes and comments, and if you know someone who is also an outdoor enthusiast, go ahead and share our show with them, too. And be sure to Subscribe to our newsletter Keywords #Tourism evolution, #Custom trips, #Tailored experiences, #All-inclusive hotels, #Guide services, #Solitude, #Bouldering, #Indoor climbing, #Hiking guide, #Backpacking trips, #Wilderness permit, #Camping and skiing, #Horseback expeditions, #Adventure business, #Outdoor activities, #Family-oriented environment, #Training local guides, #Government lands, #Outdoor gear, #Adventure, #Outdoor. Podcast produced using Descript, CastMagic Podcast hosted by Libsyn: sign up with code 'outdoorbizpod' for 20% OFF Show Notes powered by Castmagic Website powered by Wordpress Note: As an Affiliate of Amazon and others, I earn from qualifying purchases. Welcome to a podcast dedicated to outdoor enthusiasts looking to elevate their outdoor careers while embracing the freedom and joy of outdoor adventure. We dive deep into outdoor recreation, adventure travel and outdoor activities, helping you find the best outdoor jobs that fit your ideal outdoor life. Whether you're seeking career growth or just more time to get outdoors, we've got you covered.

We are pivoting the podcast to bring you an even more thrilling and immersive outdoor adventure experience. Say hello to the 'Outdoor Adventure Lifestyle Podcast!' The show helping outdoor enthusiasts land your ideal outdoor adventure gig, grow your outdoor career and find more time for adventures.' Facebook​ ​Twitter​ ​Instagram​ Love the show? Subscribe, ​rate, review, and share!​ Sign up for my Newsletter ​HERE​ I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: ​rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com

INCA (formerly Inca Floats, Inc.) began in the 70s as a family adventure when Bill Roberson, a scientist and professor, and his two daughters, Kim and Marika, traveled to Peru and the Galapagos Islands. They had such an adventurous, entertaining, and educational time that they couldn't wait to share it with their friends. And so a company was born. Bill tells us about an expedition through South America before founding INCA that inspired and motivated him to start a travel company focused on the region. Facebook​ ​Twitter​ ​Instagram​ Love the show? Subscribe, ​rate, review, and share!​ Sign up for my Newsletter ​HERE​ I'd love to hear your feedback about the show! You can contact me here: ​rick@theoutdoorbizpodcast.com Brought to you this week by Smugmug and Roam Generation PR Show Notes Learn More Inca Website Favorite Books Endurance, Alfred Lansing Follow up: Inca Website Next Steps If you enjoy interviews devoted to the outdoor industry, find us at the Outdoor Biz Podcast. We love likes and comments, and if you know someone who is also an outdoor enthusiast, go ahead and share our show with them, too. And be sure to Subscribe to our newsletter Keywords #Galapagos, #Travel, #Adventure, #South America, #Inca, #Peru, #Outdoor activities, #Rafting, #Adventure travel, #Wildlife conservation, #Darwin Foundation, #Nature trips, #Naturalist guide, #Outdoor industry, #Backpacking, #Outdoor gear, #River trips, #Patagonia, #Mountain towns, #Jungle trek, #Machu Picchu, #Bolivia, #Argentina, #Chile, #Lake District, #Iguazu Falls, #La Paz. Podcast produced using Descript, CastMagic Podcast hosted by Libsyn: sign up with code 'outdoorbizpod' for 20% OFF Show Notes powered by Castmagic Website powered by Wordpress Note: As an Affiliate of Amazon and others, I earn from qualifying purchases. Unleash your story and watch your brand thrive with Roam Generation PR. In the flood of content these days, brands often find themselves lost at sea. You struggle to connect and engage with the right audience at the right time. Roam Generation PR is your lifeline. They'll seamlessly connect your brand story with the ideal audience, driving results to make your brand thrive. Founded on a yacht while sailing worldwide, they bring a unique perspective to public relations because they live the lifestyle their partners represent. Welcome to a podcast dedicated to outdoor enthusiasts looking to elevate their outdoor careers while embracing the freedom and joy of outdoor adventure. We dive deep into outdoor recreation, adventure travel, and outdoor activities, helping you find the best outdoor jobs that fit your ideal outdoor life. Whether seeking career growth or just more time to get outdoors, we've got you covered.