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KPFA - APEX Express
APEX Express – 6.26.25-Deport. Exclude. Revoke. Imprison – Wong Kim Ark is for All of Us

KPFA - APEX Express

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A weekly magazine-style radio show featuring the voices and stories of Asians and Pacific Islanders from all corners of our community. The show is produced by a collective of media makers, deejays, and activists. Tonight Producer Swati Rayasam showcases a community panel of how discriminatory exclusion policies during times of heightened fears of national security and safety have threatened our communities in the past, and how the activities of the current administration threaten our core constitutional rights, raising the specter of politicization and polarization of citizenship, immigration visas, naturalization rights, and the right to free speech.   Deport. Exclude. Revoke. Imprison – “Wong Kim Ark is for All of Us” SHOW TRANSCRIPT Swati Rayasam: You are tuned in to APEX Express on KPFA. My name is Swati Rayasam and I'm back as your special producer for this episode. Tonight we have an incredible community panel titled Deport. Exclude. Revoke. Imprison. This panel explores the history of how discriminatory exclusion policies during times of heightened fears of national security and [00:01:00] safety have threatened our communities in the past, and how the activities of the current administration threaten our core constitutional rights, raising the specter of politicization and polarization of citizenship, immigration visas, naturalization rights, and the right to free speech. I'll pass it on to UC Berkeley Ethnic Studies Professor Mike Chang to kick us off. Mike and Harvey: We're starting on Berkeley time, right on time at three 10, and I want to introduce Harvey Dong. Harvey Dong: Okay. The sponsors for today's event include, AADS- Asian American and Diaspora studies program, uc, Berkeley, Asian American Research Center, the Center for Race and Gender Department of Ethnic Studies- all part of uc, Berkeley. Off campus, we have the following community groups. Chinese for Affirmative Action, Asian Law Caucus, [00:02:00] Asian Prisoners Support Committee, and East Wind Books. Okay, so that's, quite a few in terms of coalition people coming together. My name is Harvey Dong and I'm also a lecturer in the AADS program and part of the ethnic studies department. I can say that I exist here as the result of birthright citizenship won by Ancestor Wong Kim Ark in 1898. Otherwise, I would not be here. We want to welcome everyone here today, for this important panel discussion titled: Deport, Exclude, Revoke, Imprison – Immigration and citizenship rights during crisis. Yes, we are in a deep crisis today. The Chinese characters for crisis is way G in Mandarin or way gay in [00:03:00] Cantonese, which means danger and opportunity. We are in a moment of danger and at the same time in a moment of opportunity. Our communities are under attack from undocumented, documented, and those with citizenship. We see urgency in coming together. In 1898, the US Supreme Court case, US versus Wong Kim Ark held that under the 14th Amendment birthright, citizenship applies to all people born in the United States. Regardless of their race or their parents' national origin or immigration status. On May 15th this year, the Supreme Court will hear a President Donald Trump's request to implement an executive order that will end birthright citizenship already before May 15th, [00:04:00] deportations of US citizen children are taking place. Recently, three US citizen children, one 2-year-old with cancer have been deported with their undocumented parents. The numbers of US citizen children are much higher being deported because it's less covered in the press. Unconstitutional. Yes, definitely. And it's taking place now. Also today, more than 2.7 million southeast Asian Americans live in the US but at least 16,000 community members have received final orders of deportation, placing their lives and families in limbo. This presents a mental health challenge and extreme economic hardship for individuals and families who do not know whether their next day in the US will be their last. Wong Kim Ark's [00:05:00] struggle and the lessons of Wong Kim Ark, continue today. His resistance provides us with a grounding for our resistance. So they say deport, exclude, revoke, imprison. We say cease and desist. You can say that every day it just seems like the system's gone amuk. There's constant attacks on people of color, on immigrants and so forth. And our only solution, or the most important solution is to resist, legally resist, but also to protest, to demand cease and desist. Today brings together campus and community people. We want you all to be informed because if you're uninformed , you can't do anything. Okay? You have to know where things are at. It's nothing new. What they're trying to do, in 1882, [00:06:00] during times of economic crisis, they scapegoated Asian Americans. Today there's economic, political crisis. And the scapegoating continues. They're not doing anything new. You know, it's old stuff, but we have to realize that, and we have to look at the past in terms of what was done to fight it and also build new solidarities today. Wong Kim Ark did not take his situation sitting down. He went through, lots of obstacles. He spent three months in Angel Island he was arrested after he won his case because he was constantly being harassed wherever he went. His kids when they came over were also, spotted as being Wong Kim Ark's, children, and they too had to spend months at Angel Island. So Wong Kim Ark did not take his situation sitting down. We need to learn from him today. Our [00:07:00] next, special guest is Mr. Norman Wong, a good friend of mine. He was active here in the third world Liberation Front strike that led to ethnic studies. He did a lots of work for the development of Asian American studies and we've been out in touch for about, what, 40 years? So I'm really happy that he's able to come back to Berkeley and to talk about yourself, if you wish, maybe during the Q and a, but to talk about , the significance of your great-grandfather's case. Okay, so Norman Wong, let's give him a hand. Norman Wong: Hello, my name's Norman Wong. I'm the great grandson, Wong Kim Ark. Wong Kim Ark was [00:08:00] born in the USA, like my great-grandfather. I, too was born American in the same city, San Francisco, more than 75 years after him. We are both Americans, but unlike him, my citizenship has never been challenged. His willingness to stand up and fight made the difference for his struggles, my humble thanks. Wong Kim Ark however, was challenged more than once. In late 1889 as an American, he traveled to China in July, 1890. He returned to his birth city. He had his papers and had no problems with reentry. In 1895, after a similar trip, he was stopped from disembarking and was placed into custody for five months aboard ship in port. [00:09:00] Citizenship denied, the reason the Chinese exclusion Act 1882. He had to win this case in district court, provide $250 bail and then win again in the United States Supreme Court, March 28th, 1898. Only from these efforts, he was able to claim his citizenship granted by birthright from the 14th Amendment and gain his freedom. That would not be the last challenge to his being American. My mother suffered similar treatment. She like my great-grandfather, was born in America. In 1942, she was forced with her family and thousands of other Japanese Americans to relocation camps an experience unspoken by her family. [00:10:00] I first learned about Japanese American internment from history books. Executive order 9066 was the command. No due process, citizenship's rights stripped. She was not American enough. Now we have executive order 14160. It is an attack on birthright citizenship. We cannot let this happen. We must stand together. We are a nation of immigrants. What kind of nation are we to be with stateless children? Born to no country. To this, I say no. We as Americans need to embrace each other and [00:11:00] cherish each new life. Born in the USA. Thank you. Harvey Dong: Thank you, Norman. And Annie Lee, will moderate, the following panel, involving campus and community representatives who will be sharing their knowledge and experience. Annie Lee, Esquire is an attorney. She's also the, managing director of policy for Chinese Affirmative Action, and she's also, heavily involved in the birthright citizenship issue. Annie Lee: Thank you so much Harvey for that very warm welcome and thank you again to Norman for your remarks. I think it's incredible that you're speaking up at this moment, to preserve your ancestors' legacy because it impacts not just you and him, but all of us [00:12:00] here. So thank you. As Harvey said, my name is Annie Lee and I have this honor of working with this amazing panel of esteemed guest we have today. So I will ask each of them to introduce themselves. And I will start, because I would love to hear your name, pronouns. Title and organization as well as your personal or professional relationship with the US Immigration System. So my name's Annie. I use she her pronouns. I'm the managing Director of policy at Chinese for Affirmative Action, which is a non-profit based in San Francisco Chinatown. We provide direct services to the monolingual working class Chinese community, and also advocate for policies to benefit all Asian Americans. My relationship with the immigration system is I am the child of two Chinese immigrants who did not speak English. And so I just remember lots of time spent on the phone when I was a kid with INS, and then it became U-S-C-I-S just trying to ask them what happened to [00:13:00] a family member's application for naturalization, for visas so I was the interpreter for them growing up and even today. I will pass it to Letty. Leti Volpp: Hi everybody. Thank you so much, Annie. Thank you Harvey. Thank you, Norman. That was profoundly moving to hear your remarks and I love the way that you framed our conversation, Harvey. I'm Leti Volpp. I am the Robert d and Leslie k Raven, professor of Law and Access to Justice at the Berkeley Law, school. I'm also the director of the campus wide , center for Race and Gender, which is a legacy of the Third World Liberation Front, and the 1999, student movement, that led to the creation of the center. I work on immigration law and citizenship theory, and I am the daughter, second of four, children of my mother who was an immigrant from China, and my father who was an immigrant [00:14:00] from Germany. So I'll pass it. Thank you. Ke Lam: Thank you. Thank you all for being here. Thank you, Norman. So my name's Key. I go by he, him pronouns or Nghiep “Ke” Lam, is my full name. I work for an organization called Asian Prison Support Committee. It's been around for like over two decades now, and it started behind three guys advocating for ethics study, Asian and Pacific Islander history. And then it was starting in San Quent State Prison. All three of them pushed for ethics study, hard and the result is they all was put into solitary confinement. And many years later, after all three got out, was Eddie Zang, Mike Romero and Mike no. And when they got out, Eddie came back and we pushed for ethics study again, and we actually got it started in 2013. And it's been going on to today. Then the programs is called Roots, restoring our Original True Self. So reconnecting with who we are. And one of Eddie's main, mottos that really stuck with me. He said, we need to all connect to our chi, right? And I'm like, okay, I understand what chi is, and he said no. He [00:15:00] said, you need to connect to your culture, your history, which result to equal your identity, who you are as a person. So, the more we study about our history and our culture, like, birthright citizen, it empower us to know, who we are today. Right? And also part of that is to how do we take down the veil of shame in our community, the veil of trauma that's impacting our community as well. We don't talk about issue that impact us like immigration. So I'm a 1.5 generation. So I was born in Vietnam from Chinese family that migrant from China to Vietnam started business after the fall of Vietnam War. We all got kicked out but more than that, I am directly impacted because I am a stranded deportee, somebody that got their, legal status taken away because of criminal conviction. And as of any moment now, I could actually be taken away. So I live in that, right at that threshold of like uncertainty right now. And the people I work with, which are hundreds of people, are fixing that same uncertainty.[00:16:00] Annie Lee: Thank you, Ke. I'm gonna pass it to our panelists who are joining us virtually, including Bun. Can you start and then we'll pass it to Chris after. Bun: Hey everybody, thank you for having me. My name is Bun. I'm the co-director of Asian Prison Support Committee. I'm also, 1.5 generation former incarcerated and under, direct impact of immigration. Christopher Lapinig: Hi everyone. My name is Christopher Lapinig, my pronouns are he, him and Sha. I am a senior staff attorney on the Democracy and National Initiatives Team at Asian Law Caucus, which you may know is the country's first and oldest legal aid in civil rights organization, dedicated to serving, low income immigrant and underserved AAPI communities. In terms of my connection to the immigration system, I am, I also am a beneficiary of a birthright citizenship, and my parents are both immigrants from the Philippines. I was born in New York City. My [00:17:00] extended family spans both in the US and the Philippines. After graduating law school and clerking, my fellowship project was focused on providing litigation and immigration services to, survivors of labor trafficking in the Filipino community. While working at Asian Americans Advancing Justice Los Angeles, I also was engaged in, class action litigation, challenging the first Trump administration's practices, detaining immigrants in the Vietnamese and Cambodian communities. Annie Lee: Thank you, Chris. Thank you Bun. Let's start off by talking about birthright citizenship since it's a big topic these days. On the very, very first day of Trump's administration, he issued a flurry of executive orders, including one that would alter birthright citizenship. But I wanna take us back to the beginning because why do we have this right? It is a very broad right? If you were born in the United States, you are an American citizen. Where does that come from? So I wanna pose the first question to Letty to talk about the [00:18:00] origins of birthright citizenship., Leti Volpp: Very happy to. So what's being fought about is a particular clause in the Constitution and the 14th Amendment, which says, all persons born are naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. Okay, so that's the text. There's been a very long understanding of what this text means, which says that regardless of the immigration status of one's parents, all children born here are entitled to birthright citizenship with three narrow exceptions, which I will explain. So the Trump administration executive order, wants to exclude from birthright citizenship, the children of undocumented immigrants, and the children of people who are here on lawful temporary visas. So for example, somebody here on an [00:19:00] F1 student visa, somebody on a H one B worker visa, somebody here is a tourist, right? And basically they're saying we've been getting this clause wrong for over a hundred years. And I will explain to you why I think they're making this very dubious argument. Essentially when you think about where the 14th amendment came from, in the United States, in the Antebellum era, about 20% of people were enslaved and there were lots of debates about citizenship. Who should be a citizen? Who could be a citizen? And in 1857, the Supreme Court issued a decision in a case called Dread Scott, where they said that no person who was black, whether free or enslaved, could ever be a citizen. The Civil War gets fought, they end slavery. And then the question arose, well, what does this mean for citizenship? Who's a citizen of the United States? And in 1866, Congress [00:20:00] enacts a law called the Civil Rights Act, which basically gave rights to people that were previously denied and said that everybody born in the United States is a birthright citizen. This gets repeated in the 14th Amendment with the very important interpretation of this clause in Norman's great-grandfather's case, the case of Wong Kim Ark. So this came before the Supreme Court in 1898. If you think about the timing of this, the federal government had basically abandoned the reconstruction project, which was the project of trying to newly enfranchised, African Americans in the United States. The Supreme Court had just issued the decision, Plessy versus Ferguson, which basically legitimated the idea that, we can have separate, but equal, as a doctrine of rights. So it was a nation that was newly hostile to the goals of the Reconstruction Congress, and so they had this case come before them, whereas we heard [00:21:00] from Norman, we have his great-grandfather born in San Francisco, Chinatown, traveling back and forth to China. His parents having actually left the United States. And this was basically presented as a test case to the Supreme Court. Where the government tried to argue, similar to what the Trump administration is arguing today, that birthright citizenship, that clause does not guarantee universal birthright citizenship saying that children of immigrants are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States because their parents are also not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. The Supreme Court took over a year to decide the case. They knew that it would be controversial, and the majority of the court said, this provision is clear. It uses universal language. It's intended to apply to children of all immigrants. One of the things that's interesting about [00:22:00] what the, well I'll let Chris actually talk about what the Trump administration, is trying to do, but let me just say that in the Wong Kim Ark decision, the Supreme Court makes very clear there only three narrow exceptions to who is covered by the 14th Amendment. They're children of diplomats. So for example, if the Ambassador of Germany is in the United States, and, she has a daughter, like her daughter should not become a birthright citizen, right? This is why there's diplomatic immunity. Why, for example, in New York City, there are millions of dollars apparently owed to the city, in parking tickets by ambassadors who don't bother to pay them because they're not actually subject to the jurisdiction in the United States. Okay? Second category, children of Native Americans who are seen as having a sovereign relationship of their own, where it's like a nation within a nation, kind of dynamic, a country within a country. And there were detailed conversations in the congressional debate about the [00:23:00] 14th Amendment, about both of these categories of people. The third category, were children born to a hostile invading army. Okay? So one argument you may have heard people talk about is oh, I think of undocumented immigrants as an invading army. Okay? If you look at the Wong Kim Ark decision, it is very clear that what was intended, by this category of people were a context where the hostile invading army is actually in control of that jurisdiction, right? So that the United States government is not actually governing that space so that the people living in it don't have to be obedient, to the United States. They're obedient to this foreign power. Okay? So the thread between all three of these exceptions is about are you having to be obedient to the laws of the United States? So for example, if you're an undocumented immigrant, you are subject to being criminally prosecuted if you commit a crime, right? Or [00:24:00] you are potentially subjected to deportation, right? You have to obey the law of the United States, right? You are still subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Okay? But the Trump administration, as we're about to hear, is making different arguments. Annie Lee: Thank you so much, Leti for that historical context, which I think is so important because, so many different communities of color have contributed to the rights that we have today. And so what Leti is saying here is that birthright citizenship is a direct result of black liberation and fighting for freedom in the Civil War and making sure that they were then recognized as full citizens. And then reinforced, expanded, by Wong Kim Ark. And now we are all beneficiaries and the vast majority of Americans get our citizenship through birth. Okay? That is true for white people, black people. If you're born here, you get your ci. You don't have to do anything. You don't have to go to court. You don't have to say anything. You are a US citizen. And now as Leti referenced, there's this fringe legal theory that, thankfully we've got lawyers like [00:25:00] Chris who are fighting this. So Chris, you're on the ALC team, one of many lawsuits against the Trump administration regarding this unlawful executive order. Can you tell us a little bit about the litigation and the arguments, but I actually really want you to focus on what are the harms of this executive order? Sometimes I think particularly if you are a citizen, and I am one, sometimes we take what we have for granted and you don't even realize what citizenship means or confers. So Chris, can you talk about the harms if this executive order were to go through? Christopher Lapinig: Yeah. As Professor Volpp sort of explained this executive order really is an assault on a fundamental constitutional right that has existed for more than a hundred years at this point, or, well, about 125 years. And if it is allowed to be implemented, the harms would really be devastating and far reach. So first, you know, children born in the us, the [00:26:00] parents without permanent status, as permissible said, would be rendered effectively stateless, in many cases. And these are of course, children, babies who have never known any other home, yet they would be denied the basic rights of citizen. And so the order targets a vast range of families, and not just undocument immigrants, but also those with work visas, student visas, humanitarian productions like TPS, asylum seekers, fleeing persecution, DACA recipients as well. And a lot of these communities have deep ties to Asian American community. To our history, and of course are, essential part, of our social fabric. In practical terms, children born without birthright citizenship would be denied access to healthcare through Medicaid, through denied access to snap nutritional assistance, even basic IDs like social security numbers, passports. And then as they grow older, they'd be barred from voting, serving on juries and even [00:27:00] working. And then later on in life, they might be, if they, are convicted of a crime and make them deportable, they could face deportation to countries that they never stepped, foot off basically. And so this basically is this executive order threatened at risk, creating exactly what the drafters of the 14th Amendment wanted to prevent the creation of a permanent underclass of people in the United States. It'll just get amplified over time. If you can imagine if there's one generation of people born without citizenship, there will be a second generation born and a third and fourth, and it'll just get amplified over time. And so it truly is just, hard to get your mind around exactly what the impact of this EO would be. Annie Lee: Thanks, Chris. And where are we in the litigation right now? Harvey referenced, a hearing at the Supreme Court on May 15th, but, tell us a little bit about the injunction and the arguments on the merits and when that can, when we can expect [00:28:00] that. Christopher Lapinig: Yeah, so there were a number of lawsuits filed immediately after, the administration issued its exec order on January 20th. Asian Law Caucus we filed with the ACLU Immigrant Rights Project. Literally we were the first lawsuit, literally hours after the executive order was issued. By early February, federal judges across the country had issued nationwide preliminary injunctions blocking implementation of the order. Our case is actually not a nationwide injunction. And so there're basically, I believe three cases that are going up to the Supreme Court. And, the Trump administration appealed to various circuit courts to try to undo these injunctions. But all circuit courts upheld the injunctive relief and and so now the Supreme Court is going to be hearing arguments on May 15th. And so it has not actually ruled on whether or not the executive order is constitutional, but it's going to. I mean, it remains to be seen exactly what they're going to decide but may [00:29:00] 15th is the next date is the big date on our calendar. Annie Lee: Yeah. So the Trump administration is arguing that these judges in a particular district, it's not fair if they get to say that the entire country, is barred from receiving this executive order. Is that procedurally correct. Judges, in order to consider whether to grants an injunction, they have a whole battery of factors that they look at, including one, which is like likelihood of winning on the merits. Because if something is unconstitutional, it's not really great to say, yeah, you can let this executive order go through. And then like later when the court cases finally worked their way, like a year later, pull back from that. And so that's, it's very frustrating to see this argument. And it's also unfair and would be very messy if the states that had republican Attorneys General who did not litigate, why would you allow the executive order to go forward in those red states and not in these blue state? It really, I would say federalism run terribly amuck. Swati Rayasam: [00:30:00] You are tuned in to APEX Express on 94.1 KPFA, 89.3 KPFB in Berkeley,. 88.1. KFCF in Fresno and online@kpfa.org. Annie Lee: But anyway, let's see back off from the actual case because I think what we're really talking about and what Chris has alluded to is, these cases about birthright citizenship, all the immigration policy is essentially determining who belongs here. Who belongs here. That's what immigration policy is at its heart. And we see that the right wing is weaponizing that question, who belongs here? And they are going after very vulnerable populations, undocumented people, people who are formerly incarcerated. So Bun if you can talk about how, is the formerly incarcerated community, like targeted immigrants, targeted for deportation? What is going on with this community that I feel like most people might not know about? Thank [00:31:00] you. Bun: Yes. For our folks that are incarcerated and former incarcerated, we are the easiest target for deportation because we are in custody and in California, CDCR colludes with ICE and on the day that we are to be paroled they're at the door, cuffing us up and taking us to detention. I'm glad to hear Harvey say, this is a time of fear for us and also opportunity. Right now, our whole community, the Southeast Asian community, mainly are very effective with immigration. In the past 25 years, mostly it was the Cambodian community that was being targeted and deported. At this moment, they are targeting, all of the Southeast Asian community, which historically was never deported because of the politics and agreements, of the Vietnamese community. And now the Laos community thats more concerning, that are being targeted for deportation. Trump have opened a new opportunity for us as a community to join [00:32:00] together and understand each other's story, and understand each other's fear. Understand where we're going about immigration. From birthright to crimmagration. A lot of times folks that are under crimmigration are often not spoken about because of our cultural shame, within our own family and also some of our community member felt safe because the political agreements. Now that everybody's in danger, we could stand together and understand each other's issue and support each other because now we could see that history has repeated itself. Again, we are the scapegoat. We are here together fighting the same issue in different circumstances, but the same issue. Annie Lee: But let me follow up. What are these, historical agreements that you're talking about that used to feel like used to at least shield the community that now aren't in place anymore? Bun: Yeah. After the Clinton administration, uh, passed the IRA [immigration reform act] a lot of Southeast Asian nations were asked to [00:33:00] take their nationals back. Even though we as 1.5 generation, which are the one that's mostly impacted by this, had never even stepped into the country. Most of us were born in a refugee camp or we're too young to even remember where they came from. Countries like Cambodian folded right away because they needed the financial aid and whatever, was offering them and immediately a three with a MOU that they will take their citizens since the early two thousands. Vietnam had a stronger agreement, which, they would agree to only take folks that immigrated here after 1995 and anybody before 1995, they would not take, and Laos have just said no until just a few months ago. Laos has said no from when the, uh, the act was passed in 1995, the IRRIRA. Mm-hmm. So the big change we have now is Vietnam had signed a new MOU saying that they will take folks after 1995 [00:34:00] in the first administration and more recently, something that we never thought, happened so fast, was Laos agreeing to take their citizen back. And then the bigger issue about our Laos community is, it's not just Laos folks. It's the Hmong folks, the Myan folks, folks, folks that are still in danger of being returned back 'cause in the Vietnam War, they colluded and supported the Americans in the Vietnam War and were exiled out and kicked out, and were hunted down because of that. So, at this moment, our folks are very in fear, especially our loud folks, not knowing what's gonna happen to 'em. Ke Lam: So for folks that don't know what IRR means it means, illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act. It actually happened after the Oklahoma bombing, which was caused by a US citizen, a white US citizen. Yeah. But immigration law came out of it. That's what's crazy about it. Annie Lee: Can you tell us, how is APSC advocating to protect the community right now because you [00:35:00] are vulnerable? Ke Lam: So we had to censor a lot of our strategies. At first we used to use social media as a platform to show our work and then to support our community. But the government use that as a target to capture our people. So we stopped using social media. So we've been doing a lot of on the ground movement, such as trying to get local officials to do resolutions to push Governor Newsom to party more of our community members. The other thing is we hold pardon workshops, so try and get folks to get, either get a pardon or vacate their sentence. So commute their sentence to where it become misdemeanor is not deportable anymore. Support letters for our folks writing support letters to send to the governor and also to city official, to say, Hey, please help pardon our community. I think the other thing we are actually doing is solidarity work with other organizations, African American community as well as Latin communities because we've been siloed for so long and we've been banned against each other, where people kept saying like, they've taken all our job when I grew up. That's what they told us, right? [00:36:00] But we, reality that's not even true. It was just a wedge against our community. And then so it became the good versus bad narrative. So our advocacy is trying to change it it's called re-storying you know, so retelling our story from people that are impacted, not from people, not from the one percenters in our own community. Let's say like we're all good, do you, are there's parts of our community that like that's the bad people, right? But in reality, it affects us all. And so advocacy work is a lot of different, it comes in a lot of different shapes and forms, but definitely it comes from the community. Annie Lee: Thanks, Ke. You teed me up perfectly because there is such a good versus bad immigrant narrative that takes root and is really hard to fight against. And that's why this administration is targeting incarcerated and formerly incarcerated folks and another group that, are being targeted as people who are accused of crimes, including Venezuelan immigrants who are allegedly part of a gang. So, Leti how is the government deporting [00:37:00] people by simply accusing them of being a part of a gang? Like how is that even possible? Leti Volpp: Yeah, so one thing to think about is there is this thing called due process, right? It's guaranteed under the constitution to all persons. It's not just guaranteed to citizens. What does it mean? Procedural due process means there should be notice, there should be a hearing, there should be an impartial judge. You should have the opportunity to present evidence. You should have the opportunity to cross examinee. You should have the opportunity to provide witnesses. Right? And basically Trump and his advisors are in real time actively trying to completely eviscerate due process for everybody, right? So Trump recently said, I'm doing what I was elected to do, remove criminals from our country. But the courts don't seem to want me to do that. We cannot give everyone a trial because to do so would take without exaggeration, 200 years. And then Stephen Miller said the judicial process is for Americans. [00:38:00] Immediate deportation is for illegal aliens. Okay. Quote unquote. Right. So I think one thing to notice is, as we're hearing from all of our speakers are like the boxes, the categories into which people are put. And what's really disturbing is to witness how once somebody's put in the box of being quote unquote criminal gang banger terrorists, like the American public seems to be like, oh, okay you can do what you want to this person. There's a whole history of due process, which exists in the laws which was created. And all of these early cases actually involved Asian immigrants, right? And so first they were saying there's no due process. And then in a case called Yata versus Fisher, they said actually there is due process in deportation cases, there's regular immigration court proceedings, which accord with all of these measures of due process. There's also a procedure called expedited removal, [00:39:00] which Congress invented in the nineties where they wanted to come up with some kind of very quick way to summarily exclude people. It was motivated by a 60 Minutes episode where they showed people coming to Kennedy Airport, who didn't have any ID or visa or they had what seemed to be fake visas and they were let into the United States. And then they disappeared, right? According to the 60 Minutes episode. So basically Congress invented this procedure of, if you appear in the United States and you have no documents, or you have what an immigration inspector thinks are false documents, they can basically tell you, you can leave without this court hearing. And the only fail safe is what's called a credible fear screening. Where if you say, I want asylum, I fear persecution, I'm worried I might be tortured, then they're supposed to have the screening. And if you pass that screening, you get put in regular removal [00:40:00] proceedings. So before the Trump administration took office, these expedited removal proceedings were happening within a hundred miles of the border against people who could not show that they had been in the United States for more than two weeks. In one of his first executive orders. Trump extended this anywhere in the United States against people who cannot show they've been in the United States for more than two years. So people are recommending that people who potentially are in this situation to carry documentation, showing they've been physically in the United States for over two years. Trump is also using this Alien Enemies Act, which was basically a law Congress passed in 1798. It's only been used three times in US history it's a wartime law, right? So it was used in 1812, World War I, and World War II, and there's supposed to be a declared war between the United States and a foreign nation or government, or [00:41:00] there's an incursion threatened by a foreign nation or government, and the president makes public proclamation that all natives of this hostile nation, 14 and up shall be liable to be restrained and removed as alien enemies. Okay? So we're obviously not at war with the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua, right? They have not engaged in some kind of invasion or predatory incursion into the United States, but the Trump administration is claiming that they have and saying things like, oh, they're secretly a paramilitary wing of the Venezuelan government, even as the Venezuelan government is like cracking down on them. It's not a quasi sovereign, entity. There's no diplomatic relationships between Tren de Aragua and any other government. So these are legally and factually baseless arguments. Nonetheless, the administration has been basically taking people from Venezuela on the basis of tattoos. A tattoo of a crown of a [00:42:00] rose, right? Even when experts have said there's no relationship between what Tren de Aragua does and tattoos, right? And basically just kidnapping people and shipping them to the torture prison in El Salvador. As I'm sure you know of the case of Kimber Abrego Garcia, I'm sure we'll hear more about this from Christopher. There's a very small fraction of the persons that have been sent to this prison in El Salvador who actually have any criminal history. And I will say, even if they had a criminal history, nobody should be treated in this manner and sent to this prison, right? I mean, it's unbelievable that they've been sent to this prison allegedly indefinitely. They're paying $6 million a year to hold people there. And then the United States government is saying, oh, we don't have any power to facilitate or effectuate their return. And I think there's a struggle as to what to call this. It's not just deportation. This is like kidnapping. It's rendition. And there are people, there's like a particular person like who's completely [00:43:00] disappeared. Nobody knows if they're alive or dead. There are many people in that prison. People don't know if they're alive or dead. And I'm sure you've heard the stories of people who are gay asylum seekers, right? Who are now in this situation. There are also people that have been sent to Guantanamo, people were sent to Panama, right? And so I think there questions for us to think about like, what is this administration doing? How are they trying to do this in a spectacular fashion to instill fear? As we know as well, Trump had said oh, like I think it would be great when he met with Bukele if you build four more or five more facilities. I wanna house homegrown people in El Salvador, right? So this is all the more importance that we stick together, fight together, don't, as key was saying, don't let ourselves be split apart. Like we need a big mass coalition right? Of people working together on this. Annie Lee: So thank you leti and I think you're absolutely right. These Venezuelans were kidnapped [00:44:00] in the middle of the night. I mean, 2:00 AM 3:00 AM pulled out of bed, forced to sign documents they did not understand because these documents were only available in English and they speak Spanish, put on planes sent to El Salvador, a country they've never been to. The government didn't even have to prove anything. They did not have to prove anything, and they just snatch these people and now they're disappeared. We do have, for now the rule of law. And so Chris, there are judges saying that, Kimber Abrego Garcia has to be returned. And despite these court orders, the administration is not complying. So where does that leave us, Chris, in terms of rule of law and law in general? Christopher Lapinig: Yeah. So, I'm gonna make a little personal. So I graduated from Yale Law School in 2013, and you might know some of my classmates. One of my classmates is actually now the Vice President of the United States. Oh man. [00:45:00] Bless you. As well as the second lady, Usha Vance. And a classmate of mine, a good friend Sophia Nelson, who's a trans and queer, was recently on, I believe CNN answering a question about, I believe JD Vice President Vance, was asked about the administration's sort of refusal to comply with usual orders. Yeah. As we're talking about here and JD had said something like, well, courts, judges can't tell the president what he can't do, and sophia, to their credit, said, you know, I took constitutional law with JD, and, we definitely read Marbury Versus Madison together, and that is the semial sort of Supreme Court case that established that the US Supreme Court is the ultimate decider, arbiter, interpreter, of the US Constitution. And so is basically saying, I know JD knows better. He's lying essentially, in all of his [00:46:00] communications about, judicial orders and whether or not a presidential administration has to comply , with these orders. So, to get to your question though, it is of course unprecedented. Really. It is essentially, you know, it's not, if we not already reached. The point of a constitutional crisis. It is a constitutional crisis. I think it's become clear to many of us that, democracy in the US has operated in large part, and has relied on, on, on the good faith in norms, that people are operating good faith and that presidents will comply when, a federal judge issues an injunction or a decision. It kind of leaves us in an interesting, unprecedented situation. And it means that, lawyers, we will continue to litigate and, go to court, but we can't, lawyers will not save the country or, immigrants or communities. We need to think extensively and creatively. [00:47:00] About how to ensure, that the rule of law is preserved because, this administration is not, abiding by the longstanding norms of compliance and so we have to think about, protests, advocacy, legislatively. I don't have the answers necessarily, but we can't rely on the courts to fix these problems really. Annie Lee: Oof. That was very real, Chris. Thank you. But I will say that when there is resistance, and we've seen it from students who are speaking up and advocating for what they believe is right and just including Palestinian Liberation, that there is swift retaliation. And I think that's partly because they are scared of student speech and movement and organizing. But this is a question to all of you. So if not the courts and if the administration is being incredibly retaliatory, and discriminatory in terms of viewpoint discrimination, in people and what people are saying and they're scouring our social [00:48:00] media like, Ke warns, like what can everyday people do to fight back? That's for all of you. So I don't know who, which of you wants to take it first? Ke Lam: Oh man. I say look at history, right? Even while this new president, I wanna say like, this dude is a convicted felon, right? Don't be surprised at why we country is in the way it is, because this dude's a convicted felon, a bad business person, right? And only care about the billionaires, you know? So I'm not surprised how this country's ending up the way it is 'cause it is all about money. One way that we can stand up is definitely band together, marched on the streets. It's been effective. You look at the civil right movement, that's the greatest example. Now you don't have to look too far. We can actually, when we come together, they can't fight us all. Right? It is, and this, it's like you look at even nature in the cell. When things band together, the predators cannot attack everyone. Right? They probably could hit a few of us, but in the [00:49:00] long run, we could change the law. I think another thing is we, we, as the people can march to the courts and push the courts to do the job right, despite what's going on., We had judges that been arrested for doing the right thing, right? And so, no matter what, we have to stand strong just despite the pressure and just push back. Annie Lee: Thanks, Ke. Chris? Christopher Lapinig: What this administration is doing is you know, straight out of the fascist playbook. They're working to, as we all know, shock and awe everyone, and make Americans feel powerless. Make them feel like they have no control, make them feel overwhelmed. And so I think first and foremost, take care of yourself , in terms of your health, in terms of your physical health, your mental health. Do what you can to keep yourself safe and healthy and happy. And do the same for your community, for your loved ones, your friends and family. And then once you've done that do what you can in terms of your time, treasure, [00:50:00] talent to, to fight back. Everyone has different talents, different levels of time that they can afford. But recognize that this is a marathon and not necessarily a sprint because we need everyone, in this resistance that we can get. Annie Lee: Thank you, Chris. Leti Volpp: There was a New Yorker article called, I think it was How to Be a Dissident which said, before recently many Americans, when you ask them about dissidents, they would think of far off countries. But they interviewed a lot of people who'd been dissidents in authoritarian regimes. And there were two, two things in that article that I'm taking with me among others. One of them said that in surveying like how authoritarian regimes are broken apart, like only 3.5% of the population has to oppose what's going on. The other thing was that you should find yourself a political home where you can return to frequently. It's almost like a religious or [00:51:00] spiritual practice where you go and you get refreshed and you're with like-minded people. And so I see this event, for example as doing that, and that we all need to find and nurture and foster spaces like this. Thank you. Annie Lee: Bun, do you have any parting words? Bun: Yeah. Like Ke said, to fight back, getting together, understanding issues and really uplifting, supporting, urging our own communities, to speak Up. You know, there's folks that can't speak out right now because of fear and danger, but there are folks here that can speak out and coming here learning all our situation really give the knowledge and the power to speak out for folks that can't speak down [unclear] right now. So I appreciate y'all Annie Lee: love that bun. I was gonna say the same thing. I feel like there is a special obligation for those of us who are citizens, citizens cannot be deported. Okay? Citizens have special rights based [00:52:00] on that status. And so there's a special responsibility on those of us who can speak, and not be afraid of retaliation from this government. I would also urge you all even though it's bleak at the federal level, we have state governments, we have local governments. You have a university here who is very powerful. And you have seen, we've seen that the uni that the administration backs down, sometimes when Harvard hit back, they back down and that means that there is a way to push the administration, but it does require you all putting pressure on your schools, on your local leaders, on your state leaders to fight back. My boss actually, Vin taught me this. You know, you think that politicians, lead, politicians do not lead politicians follow. Politicians follow and you all lead when you go out further, you give them cover to do the right thing. And so the farther you push and the more you speak out against this administration, the more you give them courage to do the right thing. And so you absolutely have to do that. A pardon [00:53:00] is critical. It is critical for people who are formerly incarcerated to avoid the immigration system and deportation. And so do that. Talk to your family, talk to your friends. My parents, despite being immigrants, they're kinda old school. Okay guys, they're like, you know, birthright citizenship does seem kind of like a loophole. Why should people like get like citizenship? I'm like, mom, we, I am a birthright citizen. Like, um, And I think for Asian Americans in particular, there is such a rich history of Asian American civil rights activism that we don't talk about enough, and maybe you do at Berkeley with ethnic studies and professors like Mike Chang. But, this is totally an interracial solidarity movement. We helped bring about Wong Kim Ark and there are beneficiaries of every shade of person. There's Yik wo, and I think about this all the time, which is another part of the 14th Amendment equal protection. Which black Americans fought for that in San Francisco. [00:54:00] Chinatown made real what? What does equal protection of the laws even mean? And that case was Seminole. You've got Lao versus Nichols. Another case coming out of San Francisco. Chinatown about English learner rights, the greatest beneficiary of Lao v Nichols, our Spanish speakers, they're Spanish speaking children in schools who get access to their education regardless of the language they speak. And so there are so many moments in Asian American history that we should be talking about, that we should educate our parents and our families about, because this is our moment. Now, this is another one of those times I wanna pass it to Mike and Harvey for questions, and I'm so excited to hear about them. Mike and Harvey: Wow, thank you so much. That's a amazing, panel and thank you for facilitating annie's wanna give it of a great value in terms of that spiritual home aspect. Norm how does your great grandfather's , experience in resistance, provide help for us [00:55:00] today? Norman Wong: Well, I think he was willing to do it. It only took one, if no one did it, this, we wouldn't be having the discussion because most of us would've never been here. And we need to come together on our common interests and put aside our differences because we all have differences. And if we tried, to have it our way for everything, we'll have it no way for us. We really need to, to bond and bind together and become strong as a people. And I don't mean as a racial or a national group. Mm-hmm. I mean, we're Americans now. We're Americans here think of us as joining with all Americans to make this country the way it's supposed to be. The way [00:56:00] we grew up, the one that we remember, this is not the America I grew up believing in. I'm glad he stood up. I'm proud that he did that. He did that. Him doing that gave me something that I've never had before. A validation of my own life. And so yes, I'm proud of him. Wong Kim Ark is for all of us. It's not for me to own. Yeah. Wow. Really not. Thank you so much. Wong Kim Ark is for all of us. And, and , talking about the good , that we have here and, the optimism that Harvey spoke about, the opportunity, even in a moment of substantial danger. Thank you so much everybody. Mike and Harvey: This was amazing and really appreciate sharing this space with you and, building community and solidarity. Ke Lam: But is there any, can I leave with a chant before we close off? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much. So this is a chant that we use on the ground all the time. You guys probably heard it. When I said when we fight, you guys said we [00:57:00] win when we fight. We win when we fight, we win. When we fight, we win up. Swati Rayasam: Thanks so much for tuning into APEX Express. Please check out our website at kpfa.org/program/apexexpress to find out more about the show tonight and to find out how you can take direct action. We thank all of you listeners out there. Keep resisting, keep organizing, keep creating, and sharing your visions with the world. Your voices are important. APEX Express is produced by Miko Lee, along with Jalena Keene-Lee, Ayame Keene-Lee, Preeti Mangala Shekar, Anuj Vaida, Cheryl Truong, Isabel Li, Ravi Grover, and me Swati Rayasam. Thank you so much to the team at KPFA for their support, and have a good [00:58:00] night.   The post APEX Express – 6.26.25-Deport. Exclude. Revoke. Imprison – Wong Kim Ark is for All of Us appeared first on KPFA.

Músicas posibles
Músicas posibles - Mayos - 15/02/25

Músicas posibles

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2025 55:29


a Serpiente +Calle San Miguel After Dark Havana Negra Havana Negra Zanja Records SLMi Gente Marcelo Soler, Kchiporros, OudiTheKidd, YungCxrd, YIK, Juan Guillermo Aguilar Bayer (Cosito), Jeibrix Müller, Gustavo Pedersen, Nestor Barreto, Bruno Mendez, Ross 35 Random SoundsMayos Maestro Espada Mayos Sony Music EntertainmentVestida de domingo Soleado Soleado EsmerarteBarlovento Mito y Comadre Guajirando ZZK RecordsIncompatibilidade de Gênios  (con João Bosco) Hamilton De Holanda y Gonzalo Rubalcaba COLLAB Sony Music A tu Merced Cimafunk, Francisco Céspedes, Gonzalo Rubalcaba, Camila Guevara Pa' Tu Cuerpa Mala Cabeza RecordsNo És La Llum Rita Payés y Lau Noah De camino al camino Sony Music Color De Dolor Angélica García Gemelo Partisan RecordsPor Si las Moscas Ëda Díaz Suave Bruta AirfonoEscuchar audio

WorkCookie - A SEBOC Podcast
Ep. 197 - The Feedback Effect: Fulfilling the Purpose of Performance Reviews

WorkCookie - A SEBOC Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2024 66:31


This episode examines the critical connection between feedback and employee performance. It discusses the impact of feedback on motivation, skill development, and overall job satisfaction. The episode also explores effective feedback strategies for managers and leaders. In this Episode: Dr. Jeremy Lucabaugh, Tom Bradshaw, Matthew Lampe, Dr. Martha Grajdek, Lee Crowson, Nic Krueger, LindaAnn Rogers, Gaby Cadena, David Prieto, C3PO, Shawna Kessler, Natasha Desjardins, Nikita Nerima. Visit Us https://www.seboc.com/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/sebocLI Join an Open-Mic Event: https://www.seboc.com/events   References Falcone, P., & Tan, W. (2013). The performance appraisal tool kit: redesigning your performance review template to drive individual and organizational change. Amacom. Hosain, S. (2016). 360 degree feedback as a technique of performance appraisal: Does it really work? Asian Business Review, 6(1). Iqbal, M. Z., Akbar, S., & Budhwar, P. (2015). Effectiveness of performance appraisal: An integrated framework. International Journal of Management Reviews, 17(4), 510-533. Lam, S. S., Yik, M. S., & Schaubroeck, J. (2002). Responses to formal performance appraisal feedback: The role of negative affectivity. Journal of Applied Psychology, 87(1), 192. Mitchell, L. (2010). Emotional responses to performance appraisal feedback: Implications for organizations. Journal of Applied Business and Economics, 11(4), 82-108.

Master The NEC Podcast
Master The NEC - Social Preferred Platform

Master The NEC Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2023 19:48


Finding Market Fit: Marketing Leaders in Tech
The Yik Yak story. Building thriving communities across college campuses | Brooks Buffington (Yik Yak Co-Founder) and Justin Oh (Yik Yak Product Marketing Lead)

Finding Market Fit: Marketing Leaders in Tech

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2023 66:18


Yik Yak is a psuedoanonymous social media platform primarily focused on on-campus college students. Yik yak first launched in 2013 and at it's peak hit about 7M Monthly Active Users and about 2.5M daily active users, spending roughly 30 minutes per day on the app. They consequently raised north of $60M. But the app hit a ceiling with growth and in 2017, unfortunately, was sold to Square. The name and logo have since been purchased from Square in 2021.    Justin led product marketing at YikYak and was one of the first employees. Brooks is one of the co-founders, and has since gone on to build another startup, Switchyards, which is a neighborhood work club. Justin has gone on to lead Product Marketing at Discord. We talk about:  How Yik Yak got started  Building engaged communities on and off platform  Dealing with challenges like bullying and negative content  Difficulties of expanding markets  Building a great culture --- Where to find Brooks and Justin:  Brooks' LinkedIn Profile  Justin's LinkedIn Profile --- Where to find Patrick:  Patrick's LinkedIn Profile --- (3:12) How Yik Yak got started  (6:37) Driver of immediate growth and access to an immediate audience  (7:40) How the app quickly scaled  (9:28) Initial engagement metrics and awareness compared to Twitter, Instagram, and Snap  (13:31) Why copycat apps never hit it as big (16:30) Initial tools and guidance in building the right community (19:35) Honing in on authentic content (25:00) Sparking growth through onsite events through identifying campus influencers  (29:48) Why everyone loved the Yak on campus, developing new experiences, and hitting the tipping point before engagement starts to run on its own  (40:42) Addressing bullying, high school campuses, and the negativity of certain campuses  (44:23) Limited upside and not much incentive for allowing negative content to persist  (46:11) Marketing's role in driving growth and its limitations (48:37) The challenges of natural churn and turn over due to graduating seniors  (50:00) The shared feed across thousands of students loses its novelty over time  (51:19) How the college experience is a shared experience and the difficulties of expanding use cases beyond that  (55:41) Catching lightning in a bottle at that time  (56:55) Trying psuedoanonymity and micro communities (59:12) Looking back at the company culture                          

Ankara Rüzgarı
Alevi açılımı, Dijital Terörizm Çalıştayı ve seçime doğru YİK bildirisinin şifreleri - Zülfikar Doğan

Ankara Rüzgarı

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2022 11:37


2009'da ‘Demokratik Çözüm Süreci' adı altında Kürt Açılımı başlatan Erdoğan, eş zamanlı olarak Alevi Açılımı, Ermeni Açılımı, Roman Açılımı adımlarını atmıştı. İlki 2009 Haziran'ında düzenlenen Alevi Çalıştaylarında gündeme getirilen talepler, 8 Şubat 2010'daki 7. Alevi Çalıştayında rapora dönüştürülerek dönemin Başbakanı Erdoğan'a sunuldu. Ancak Alevilerin temel taleplerinin hemen hiçbirisi Erdoğan ve AKP hükümeti nezdinde kabul görmedi.

The Intentional Well-Being Podcast with Dianne Bondy
5. My Favourite Mentor Dr. Gail Parker

The Intentional Well-Being Podcast with Dianne Bondy

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2022 73:53


https://www.drgailparker.com   Dianne Bondy Intro: (00:08) Hey everybody, Dianne Bondy here. And I'm really excited because today I am talking to my mentor, my yoga teacher, uh, my spiritual advisor, an incredible educator doc, Dr. GA Parker. And you know what? I've had an ongoing relationship with Dr. Gail Parker for probably pretty close to a decade. And, uh, how I met Dr. Gail Parker is I used to practice yoga, uh, in Michigan, in Detroit. And I never saw yogis of color or teachers of color. And until I was in a class with, for Gale Parker, and I was trying to figure out how to meet her. I didn't want to invade her space, but I started, you know, reading her blog and following her. And initially, maybe stalking her a little bit. We were both in the on sour world together. So a lot of times we would be in class together, but we wouldn't have any real interaction.   Dianne Bondy: (00:58) And then we went to a workshop at the Comar center in town, town, Detroit. We were seeing a very famous yoga teacher and I, I was in the change room and I saw Dr. Gal in the change room and nobody else was in the change room. And I thought, this is my opportunity. Cuz every time I would see her, she would be in conversation or she would be around other folks. And I would never get a chance to talk to her. And with all my excitement and exuberance, if you're not familiar with me, I tend to be excitable. And Asub, uh, I ran up on Dr. Gail Parker and she was like, whoa, she didn't know I had been stalking her. And that I had read written or sorry. I had read a, a blog about her the week before and I got a chance to meet her.   Dianne Bondy: (01:35) And that's how we came in contact with each other. And she was often one of the educators, my 200 hour teacher training program when I added a restorative yoga con um, component. And so we have been in each other's sphere for a long time. She has, uh, recently written a book called restorative yoga for ethnic and race based stress and trauma. She has lectured on this. She's been she's um, talked about, you know, mental health and wellness as a psychotherapy for over 40 years. She's been on Oprah like six or seven times. Like she's very accomplished and I'm excited to call her friends. I'm gonna read a little bit about her bio. She is a C certified, um, international yoga teacher. She's an, she's a C I A Y T. So she a yoga therapist, an author, a psychologist, and a yoga therapist, educator. Uh, she's the author, of course of the book.   Dianne Bondy: (02:27) I just showed you, uh, restorative yoga for ethnic and race based stress and trauma. This book came out last year in 2020, which was really helpful cuz we knew all that was going on in 2020 around race based stress and trauma for the black community. Uh, she is the current president of the black yoga teachers Alliance, uh, board of directors, board of directors, her broad exp expertise in behavioral health and wellness includes 40 years as practicing as a psychologist. Dr. Parker is a lifelong practitioner of yoga and is well known for her pioneering efforts to blend psychology, yoga and meditation as an effective self care strategies that can enhance emotional balance and contribute to the overall health and wellbeing of, uh, their practitioner or its practitioners. And so I'm excited to have her on the intentional well out being podcast. And she's gonna talk about how yoga, meditation and healing for race based stress and injury is going to help. Not only people of color, not only black and brown folks, but all of us on the path to healing and intentional wellbeing. I can't wait for you all to hear and meet my friend, my colleague, my team, Dr. Gail Parker,   Dianne Bondy: (03:47) Hey everybody. Hello everyone. Welcome to the intentional wellbeing podcast and I'm very excited, excited, excited, excited to share with you my mentor, my friend, my teacher, uh, my spiritual sister, Dr. Gail Parker to the podcast today. One of the first people, I guess, along with my mom who introduced me to being intentional in our practices around wellness and gave me a really interesting perspective on how to use yoga as a self care practice. And also as a peace practice, which I thought was really helpful to me because before any of this, I was always about power yoga. How can I get into a handstand faster, all those kinds of things. And I, I really did a 360 or 180, um, around some of the belief systems around yoga after practicing with Dr. Gail and reading her work. And I wanna welcome her to the podcast today. Thank you Gail for being here   Dr. Gail Parker: (04:47) Thank you for inviting me to be here. It is always a pleasure.   Dianne Bondy: (04:51) I love it. You and I, over the course of the last, I wanna say maybe 10 years or so have had different conversations. Like if you go to my YouTube channel, there's a conversation way back, maybe eight years ago on YouTube, uh, on other podcasts that I've done, you know, we've spoken, I've always referenced your work. I quote you weekly. I'm just grateful to have you in my life. And uh, I wanted to start with the big question I ask all my guests. What is the difference between wellness and wellbeing? What does that mean to you when you talk about the difference between those two things?   Dr. Gail Parker: (05:25) So I think that, um, wellness, when, when I think about wellness, I think about in terms of health and health has traditionally been defined as, um, the absence of disease or wellbeing is part of health. And it's certainly part of wellness, but I think wellbeing is when every aspect of ourselves, our physical body, our breath body, as we say, in yoga, our mental, emotional body, our, um, intuitive sense of being and our spiritual wellbeing are all in alignment when they are, when we're in harmony on that level. That's when you experience wellbeing, how often does that occur? Mm, yeah, because, because it's, it's wellness is constantly changing. It's not a static, um, place. It's, it's a dynamic place. And so our wellbeing is dependent on our ability and our willingness to adapt to external changes and the internal changes that are always ongoing. Wow.   It's like being in balance. So this is one of the reasons I love, um, the yoga practice because, uh, if you're standing on, uh, one foot, for example, if you lift a leg and you're standing on one foot and in yoga, we might call that tree position. , uh, where you have your, the soul of, of, of the lifted foot is on your inner thigh while you're trying to balance. If you'll pay attention to that balance is not static. You're not, this is not what is happening here. what's happening here is the continual adjustment to maintain that sense of equilibrium, that place of harmony. So that's what wellbeing means to me when we're, when we're paying attention to that sense of equilibrium and making the adjustments and when we fall because when we, we will, as we will, that doesn't, it doesn't even mean then that there's no wellbeing. It means that that's that's though, when you, when you, as my mother would say, pick yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again. Mm-hmm but we have all of these practices within the yoga, uh, uh, uh, Pantheon, I guess, of practices. For example, I'm thinking child's pose now where this is, this is an embodied experience of beginning again. Mm. I love let's begin again. I love it. So it's that, it's that, it's that emotional, mental, physical flexibility, and willingness to go to go with the flow.   Dianne Bondy: (08:20) I think that's all hard for a lot of people to go with the flow. I think that was the, one of the biggest lessons that I learned, especially being a practitioner of Vinyasa yoga was the E and the flow, how it moves with the breath. And I've never thought of wellbeing as that balance. What a great analogy to be kind of teetering as I often do in tree pose and looking for that center. And I've always thought of that as the spinning plates, right. Or a spinning top, a spinning top looks balanced and steady when it's spinning at its fastest and the minute it starts to slow down, it gets that, you know, that oblong kind of yeah.   Speaker 2: (08:56) Walk you wobbles.   Dianne Bondy: (08:57) Yeah. Yeah. But it's still in balance, but it's just trying to find its way back to that, that equilibrium. So what do you think are some of the obstacles for people, um, in accessing wellbeing and accessing, you know, that balance, what keeps people from pursuing that, especially especially black folks and people who have been historically excluded from most practices?   Dr. Gail Parker: (09:22) Well, I would say that I'm gonna give you the big answer here. I'll the big answer. Then we can narrow it down. The big answer for me is, is I think that awareness is medicine of health and wellbeing. Mm   Dianne Bondy: (09:39) Yes. Brilliant.   Dr. Gail Parker: (09:41) And without awareness, we don't have that experience because without awareness, you, you don't necessarily know when you're wobbling or when you, or that, or that being still in one place optimal. It isn't, you know, it's so it's, it's our awareness, especially our internal awareness. So most of us I'm assuming know what's going on around us, but as a psychologist, what I learned over and over and over again, and it always surprised me is the lack of awareness of what's going on within us and how that influences what's occurring around us. Mm wow. So I think the cultivation, and, and when, when I teach again, it's, it's one of the reasons I love yoga because this is now an embodied experience. It's not something that you're talking about or reading about. Mm-hmm , you're having an actual experience of awareness. Mm-hmm oh, this is where it hurts. Oh, this is where it's relaxed. Oh, this is what wellbeing feels like, oh, this is what being tense and tight feels like. And with our awareness, when we can cultivate our mind as a tool of awareness, not a, not just a storehouse of information now we're approaching wellbeing. Nice. Yeah. And that's, I mean, that's how I see it. And that for me, transcends race and ethnicity and culture, that's just a human capacity. Hm. To cultivate self awareness, particularly. That's what I'm, that's where my focus always is self awareness.   Dianne Bondy: (11:25) And I think that was the biggest lesson that I learned from yoga. It's amazing to me how we can kind of just float through or T trudge through wherever you are in your life through life and have actually no self-awareness of how we feel, what our breath is doing, how people are reacting to us. You know, if we need to step more fully into our life, if we need to pull that prior to jumping on the call, you and I were talking about clearing our schedule and minimizing our calendars a little bit, and how excited, you know, you were, and I was for you to have a calendar where you're not fully committed all the time. And I think for me last year, right after George Floyd was murdered, I spent the majority of my summer in conversation, mostly through workshops and all kinds of stuff in conversation with people who had no, no self-awareness of their place in the world and no bigger awareness of how people who are historically excluded or marginalized or underestimated have been moving through the world. So we both of us, because this is a lot of our work intersects. A lot of those places, both of us were like constantly on calls, constantly doing workshops and not, you know, I think for a long time, I wasn't aware of how that was making me feel. And I felt like this summer was the summer of like, whoa, right. I'm gonna take a little bit of a step back and observe instead of constantly being a, in the mix.   Dr. Gail Parker: (12:56) Yeah. And, and it's that awareness that allowed you to   Dianne Bondy : (12:59) Do that? Yeah, it was, it was time it's, it feels weird because I feel like, am I stalling? Should I be doing more? Like, it's, it's that constant training, I guess, of the world that we need to be doing something, doing something, something, doing something. And one of my favorite, uh, quotes from you is actually relax and do nothing just because you're not doing anything doesn't mean that nothing is happening. And I, I just remembered that, especially when you were teaching restorative yoga. So can you tell us for the listeners how you came to be, uh, a yoga teacher and especially how you came to this modality? And in the introduction, I mentioned that, uh, Dr. Gale has a wonderful book, restorative yoga for ethnic and race based stress and trauma. This is the first installment, the first volume. And there's a second volume coming out November, right?   Dianne Bondy: (13:55) November mm-hmm yeah. In November. And we're gonna talk a little bit about this book, life changing. My favorite chapter in this book, um, around self-awareness is chapter four. And I think if you could really like dive into chapter four, it will give you great perspective. If you are not part of, um, this culture or part of this ethnicity that we're talking about, what are some of the stressors that lead us to need a practice like this? So how did you come to do this work? How did you become a yoga teacher, a therapist, like what inspires you to do this work?   Dr. Gail Parker: (14:25) So, as you know, I've been practicing yoga my entire adult life. And when I started practicing yoga, which has been for, uh, gosh, over 50 years, really? Mm. When I started practicing the, there were no such things as yoga studios. I stumbled upon a class at, uh, the Detroit Institute of arts, where I was living at the time being taught by a man, if we could screen share, which I know we, we can't, and we don't need to, I would show you his picture, Mr. Black, his name was Mr. Black. And he wore a black suit and tie to teach us yoga. So we were not practicing the kind of yoga that is currently being taught clearly. Right, right. But it was a full practice. It was a complete practice, meaning it involved very gentle physical movements, mindful physical movements. Um, it involved breath, it involved, um, self-awareness self realization.   Dr. Gail Parker: (15:14) It involved, um, uh, there was a, a deep spiritual component. So that was how I was introduced to the practice. So in, or, and I, and what ended up happening for me right away is I, I felt the sense of inner P that was very powerful. And that's what kept me going back. And the class I only met once a week. And, um, so I kept going back to the class. Um, and over time I just continued the practice. I continued to teach myself how to do yoga, because that's about all you could do with, and those days I think the class lasted for a year. And then I don't know what happened to Mr. Actually, Mr. Black went up to Northern Michigan and founded a, a, uh, a, a retreat center. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Song of the morning retreat center, which is in Vanderbilt, Michigan, which is interesting.   Dr. Gail Parker: (16:08) Anyway. Um, so I continued to, to teach myself yoga and continued the practice on my own until yoga studios began to proliferate, which was, I think, in the nineties. Mm. Yeah. And I was the first one at the door and enjoying these very active, uh, athletic, physical practices. Mm-hmm so it's not that I did not do those practices. I did, uh, until I couldn't anymore, which is only, only fairly recently. Right. And enjoyed every minute of it. I like many people I decide I was so intrigued by the experience and what I was, I felt inside myself, I wanted to learn more about what was going on. So I took a yoga teacher training and in that yoga teacher training, I was introduced to restorative yoga, which is, um, for those of you who don't know restorative, uh, it is, it it's a, a receptive form of yoga. It's not an active form of yoga where you are using props to support your body and holding postures, stillness, and quiet for extended periods of time. It's delicious and revoke the relaxation response, which is a real physiologic response. All right.   Dr. Gail Parker: (17:33) So I didn't know that at the time I'm just doing it. And, and, and what was interesting is my yoga tea, the woman who introduced me to, uh, restorative yoga would come, uh, while I'm, I'm supposed to be being still in one of these poses, I'm fidgeting. I'm Mo you know, cause it was hard to be still. Mm. It was really hard to be still. I have that problem too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember one time she came over and she just put her hand on me, she said, stop it so, but I, I appreciated the practice. I got it. I really got it. I thought, for example, had she not put her hand very gently on me and said stop it? I don't know that I would've noticed I was fidgeting. Mm. I mean, I knew I was, but I didn't know. It mattered, you know what I'm saying? I'm just fidgeting.   Dr. Gail Parker: (18:26) And, and so it, it just continue to bring me into deeper inner awareness. And I, and all of a sudden the light bulb went on, went off, I'm a psychologist. I have clients who don't know that they are, that, that they don't have this awareness of the inner self. They may, until like I did, but they haven't physically felt it. And I thought this is a perfect practice to invite people, to come into that level of awareness that is beyond thought and beyond language and beyond talking. So I never saw it as an either or proposition that you either do talk therapy or you do, uh, yoga therapy, for example, the yoga for a therapeutic reason. So I began to combine both. Um, now my clients were never coming to me to learn yoga. So I was not teaching them how to do yoga. Wasn't teaching them yoga postures, but I understood the philosophy.   Dr. Gail Parker: (19:34) I understood the, the potency and the impact and how breath and movement and just your body language are impacting what you're experiencing. And so I would, you know, invite people into that practice in that way. So somebody comes in, their shoulders are up here. Their eyes are bugging out. You, I say, how are you? They say, I'm fine. yeah. I say, okay, well, let's come on in, let's have a seat. And before we get started, let's take, let's just do a little bit of breathing. I'll do it with you. And so we would do that. And then I was, how are you feeling? Oh, I feel so much better. Mm mm-hmm oh, well, you know, that's always available to you to, you know, when you notice that you're feeling a certain way, you can always come to your breath mm-hmm and, and, and you can feel better. So that would be the way I would introduce it. And then over time, you know, I, I began to do, you know, and do more things like that. Um, and, and so it's just powerful. It's just effective. It was a beautiful addition to the therapeutic work I was already doing. Mm.   Dianne Bondy: (20:43) I think it's, it's amazing. I run into so many, um, psychotherapists, like in the eating disorder world, they'll be at a conference or, or what have you, and I'll be invited to do some kind of practice. And because we're in a conference room or, you know, we're in a ballroom and everybody's sitting on a chair, I will do something a little bit more restorative. I'll do, I'll start out with something really gentle so that people can get out of their heads and into their body. And then we'll dip down into something that's super restorative. And the amount of people fidgeting is always really interesting. I always take note of that, cuz I tend to be a bit of a fidgeter myself, which is why, um, I think the active practice spoke to me for so long. Cause it just like got all the fidgets out and then I was able to like, you know, really come deep down into that awareness, but it was amazing to me how many clinicians would say to me that, wow, this was really powerful in my own, you know, awareness of self.   Dianne Bondy: (21:35) And I just thought to myself, this is a practice that maybe all clinicians should be, at least doing personally. And I always would make reference to you. And I said, you know, you know, a friend of mine, a very close friend of mine is a psychotherapist. And she uses these principles in her therapy with great success because we are like, I think perpetually disconnected from our breath and our body. I can't tell you many times, you know, I look in the back of my hand and I see a cut and I'm like, what did I do that? Or I hit my elbow and there's a bruise. I'm like, when did I do that? Like just so completely preoccupied with everything else in the world that I have no space for my own self-awareness mm-hmm . And I think through this practice is the only way I've come to realize that.   Dr. Gail Parker: (22:23) Yeah. I mean, I, I agree. And that's, and, and it's more than, and the real is an embodied experience of it. Mm-hmm , mm-hmm, , it's not a thought. Yeah. It's, it's a real physical experience of what we're talking about and that can't be, you know, you can't, you can't describe that to someone, you, you, you have to do it. You, you have to actually engage the practice.   Dianne Bondy: (22:53) And I think people are maybe a little bit of, it's afraid of being still a little bit of afraid of, you know, dipping down into their self-awareness. I'm watching a lot of social justice activists, um, out there in the world, doing all the things, all the things, all the, all the things. And I'm just wondering if they slow down and stop and take a few breaths, what will happen? Like what are they afraid will happen if they take their foot off the gas for a minute?   Dr. Gail Parker: (23:20) That is a good question. Right? That's a good question.   Dianne Bondy: (23:24) Yeah. Like just for a second, if you took your foot off the gas and that's kind of where I'm at this summer, you easing back, which brings me to your book, tell me the process, what inspired you to do this incredible, great piece of work? And I will link to it in the show notes where you could buy it and where you can. Pre-buy the next book I've already, um, I've already, pre-ordered my, my book. I need to have the box set because I, I think there might be a third , uh, it's just such great work!   Dr. Gail Parker: (23:53) You know, I'm like for the I'm I'm looking away because I'm looking for some notes that I took, not really for this interview, but that I think are relevant. Um, I'll, I'll , I mean, it, it, it started before this, but in, um, 20, when was it? When, when in 2014? Mm, Michael Brown was murdered. Yes. Yes. Michael Brown is the young man in, from Ferguson, Missouri. For those of you who need a reminder who was shot in, killed and left in the street for hours before any shot and killed by a policeman, uh, he was an unarmed young black man mm-hmm before anybody, um, came to even recover his remains. You know, it was pretty traumatic for everyone. Prior to that, we had been through Trayvon Martin's murder. We had been through, uh, I think tare rice mm-hmm , uh, was murdered the same year as Michael Brown, uh, Jordan Davis, who, uh, was shot in his car for playing his music too loud.   Dr. Gail Parker: (25:02) Mm-hmm , um, and murdered. And, and, and it was so Michael Brown's murder, was it, it, it just made me realize I have to do something. I have to engage in this work, um, to support people who are just overwhelmingly traumatized by what's going on, um, to support them in finding a sense of wellbeing. See, here's the thing, even in the face, and this is what our yoga teaches us. And I've had the experience, even in the face of chaos, confusion, trauma, we can, there is a place within us that we can access that is that place of wellbeing, believe it or not. Yes. Believe it or not. Now we don't, when you're in the midst of trauma and you've never done this before, this is not a good time to find that place, you know, so, which is if you've had years of practice, what ends up and you know, that place, then that's, that's your refuge.   Dr. Gail Parker: (26:11) That's where you can go when everything is just seems so overwhelming. All right. So anyway, I was at, actually, I was at a retreat, a yoga retreat, uh, not a physical retreat, but it was a philosophical retreat. And the professor who was leading the retreat was enraged about Michael Brown's death and murder. And he was on a rant. He's a college professor. Also, he was on a rant about it and how, how offended he was by all of it. And I, I was the only black person in the room and the professor was white as well. And I'm looking around. And these were people that I, that I knew and had been involved with for a long time, everybody's on their cell phone, or, you know, run through this or kind of looking, you know, you could sit waiting for him to finish, so they could get back to talking about, um, the mythology of, you know, what we were there to talk about is that yeah.   Dr. Gail Parker: (27:15) Right. And I realized in that instant, I thought, you know what? This is my, I have to, I have to do something I have to do, so they don't have to do anything. I have to do something and I have to bring it into the yoga world and community that I associate with, because these are practices that black and brown people deserve to know about and be introduced to and share. Right? So that was where it started. Mm-hmm in 2018, I was asked to be a keynote speaker at an international, uh, yoga therapy Alliance conference.   Dr. Gail Parker: (27:54) About two months before that the Starbucks incident occurred where the two young men who were sitting Starbucks, mining their own business, waiting for a business associate to arrive were arrested for not ordering anything while they waited. And I remember using that in this presentation that I made, and it was a very powerful presentation. And after the presentation, um, actually, and, and the title of presentation was white as a color too, because this organization was a 95% white organization. And at the time I wanted, I thought, you know, what, if I'm gonna talk to white people about this, I want them to understand first that number one, this is a necessary conversation for us to have. That is the yoga world and actually the entire, but the yoga world becomes more racially and ethnically diverse. Mm-hmm we need to be able to have the conversation.   Dr. Gail Parker: (28:50) Mm-hmm non defensively. Yes. That's the word? Non defensively. Yeah. Non defensively and constructively. And so, um, and I thought that in order that, you know, in a racialized culture, which is what we live in mm-hmm, white people don't include themselves. Yeah. As a race. Yes. I found that too. So I'll get up. Let me just, this is a sidebar here about the DEI initiatives. Yes. Diversity. Yeah. I think inclusive inclusivity should mean white people should include themselves in this stuff. That's I don't think it means that white people should include black people. We know white people need to include themselves. That's the inclusivity agreed that, oh, I'm a white. Oh, I, oh, oh. I'm I'm part of this conversation. I'm a racialized being too. All right. Yes. Oh my relationship to my own race and ethnicity, not how do I help? Not, not, how do I understand you? Black people or brown people and help you, but how do I understand me and my own and help me and my own   Dianne Bondy: (30:04) Agreed. I think that's   Dr. Gail Parker: (30:05) Brilliant. Yeah. All right. So we all have our work to do. Yes. Anyway, after this presentation, I was approached by a publisher who said, you need to write a book. I said, a book said the talk, she a   Dianne Bondy: (30:20) Book. Yeah, yeah. Like, pardon me?   Dr. Gail Parker: (30:22) Book is a book. I said, nice. So I thought about, I was afraid actually. Yeah, yeah. To do it for a variety of reasons. It's a lot of, um, but largely because of that ex my experience of the indifference to the topic that yes. A lot of in my experience, white people have displayed. Yes. And that is painful to me. Yes. Because it's an important topic to me. Yes. It involves my experience of myself, my identity. Um, and I just didn't wanna, it, my feelings hurt, you know,   Dianne Bondy: (31:04) I really valid, valid. Nobody wants their feelings hurt. I realize   Dr. Gail Parker: (31:08) Not, you know what? Yeah. You know, grow up, you know, you do this, you've been doing it forever. Cuz I had taken a break from all of this for a while. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You've been doing it forever. You know, just write the book. So I did. Um, and it was, it was, it was challenging. I, what I learned about writing books you've written. So, you know yeah. What I learned about writing books is that the, for me, anyway, the hardest obstacle I had in overcoming my resistance was that fear of criticism that yes, fear, it's very, I'm gonna say the wrong thing. that I'm going to, so I had to dismantle my own internalized, um, critical thinking. Mm-hmm about kind of going off the farm to write this book that may not be well received. It was hard. It was really hard. I feel that, yeah,   Dianne Bondy: (32:06) I get that. It's it's almost like a little bit of an internalized imposter syndrome. Who am I to be writing about this? What, this is what I believe. What if other people don't believe it? Are they gonna like burn me an effigy on the internet? Like all the things, right? Well,   Dr. Gail Parker: (32:20) Mine was a little different. Mine was, I don't know if you, uh, ever saw the, uh, documentary they did on Tony Morrison just before she died. It was beautiful. Anyway, one of the things she talked about was how she and James Baldwin who were good friends, used to get together and talk about having to, having to fight what she called the white gays. And she said, you know that little white man who sits on your shoulder and criticizes everything you do. Yes. That that's what it was for me. Mm. That, you know, that internalized critic that this isn't good enough. Now one aspect of race based rest in trauma is the internalization of not being good enough. Mm-hmm you see mm-hmm so I had to bump, I bumped into my own and I think I write about it in chapter one where I say, I think that part of the reason, this was scary for me, the, the, the first chapter of the book is called, uh, the wounds heel, but the scars still hurt.   Dr. Gail Parker: (33:19) Yes. And I think, I, you know, if you don't mind, since we're on the topic, it's said, um, we retain a memory of our injuries, whether they are physical or psychological, even after the injury has healed and scarred over mm-hmm, where scar tissue has formed. We from time to time be reminded of the hurt. This is especially true of our deepest emotional wounds, writing on the topic of race based stress. And trauma is like that. For me, it scares me some maybe it's because it brings up old wounds from my past that are healed, but scarred over, maybe it's because I'm afraid an afraid of countering wounds that have yet to be healed. Racial wounding is painful and approaching these wounds risks, reopening them because race based stress and trauma linger, but our emotional scars are the marks that tell a story of times when life really hurt us, but didn't break us.   Dr. Gail Parker: (34:19) They're in indicators of our strength and our resilience. We need not be afraid to approach them or show them true. Healing comes when you learn to face your wounds, not hide them. Yoga as a therapeutic healing, modality has an important role to play in helping us face and heal our emotional wounds. That is for black to brown, white, indigenous, Latinx people, Asian people, all races, all cultural identities and ethnicities. This is not just for black people or brown people. And that's how this book was written. That also, that's also what made it challenging to, right, from my perspective, as an African American woman, um, who is sometimes racially ambiguous mm-hmm , by the way, people don't, especially when I was younger, people did not always see a black person when they looked at me and may not now. Yeah. Um, because black for lot of people, um, carries within a color. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This space yeah. Or yeah, not this space. And so that's also part of my identity that can be, has been wounding for me not being recognized. Mm-hmm , which I think is everybody's wound, you know, but that absence of recognition of who I am and, um, on, on, on, on, you know, deeper levels of, of being so anyway, so that's how I wrote the book, why I wrote the book. Um, I was absolutely stunned and gratified by how well received it continues to be.   Dianne Bondy: (36:10) It is quoted probably weekly in my feed pictures, on my Instagram feed. People talk about, I quote it on the regular. I think it's a very important book. I am grateful you are writing a second chapter or a second volume or you're continuing the work. Yeah. I think it's so useful. And you and I have done a couple of, I have workshops like you, you used to come in and do the restorative part of the 200 hour teacher for that. I ran and now you've done part of the 300 part. Um, I remember we were at Greentree yoga one time and it was in the beginnings. You hadn't read the book yet, but you were doing these workshops. And we were at Greentree, um, yoga in California, uh, together mm-hmm . And I remembered, uh, we were doing this workshop and what ended up happening is that I think it was intended for brown folks and black folks to really get some deep restoration.   Dianne Bondy: (37:03) And then we had a few white folks sign up and then there was that conversation. Do we pull back the conversation that was intended for a black or brown audience only? Or do we honestly put that information out there and see how it lands? And I loved how you very much, um, you know, engage the white folks in that room. But I remember initially the little bit of hesitancy we both had because we were like, oh, we had thought that this was going to be a space like that was going to be majority black in which it was, but we did, I think had three people who were white in the class, which I never usually have. It's usually the flip, the classes, all white folks. And then there's three black folks. And one of the black folks is me. I've often been the only black base in a lot of places.   Dianne Bondy: (37:48) And it's in a lot of, um, yoga spaces where, you know, we speak about, oh, it's, nonjudgment, you know, it's no judgment here. It's welcoming here, everybody's welcome here. And you step into these spaces and it's evident that you, you are not welcome here, that you are not part of who's on the floor and it might not be the teacher or the staff behind the desk that treats you like you don't belong here. It might be the other students rolling out their mats next to them. And that disembodied understanding of the yoga practice, where you can come and roll out your mat in a classroom, but can be completely hostile or indifferent to the person of color who's in the room next to you. And to just have that, almost a feeling of open hostility, that yoga spaces or white spaces,   Dr. Gail Parker: (38:34) Or, um, and I've had this experience and I'm sure you have too, or have seen it, or someone will you're in, you're in the yoga space and it's predominantly white mm-hmm and a black person comes into the room. And, and then let's say it's crowded. Yeah. And a lot of space. Yep. And a black person comes to the room and nobody moves. Yes. Nobody move their mat. And the teacher doesn't facilitate it. Whereas when the white person came in, just before everybody moved to make the space and the teacher facilitated it, it's that. Yeah. You know, it's that lack of awareness and re on the part of the teacher mm-hmm that this person is not being supported mm-hmm or, um, I love this story of, I sent a client, uh, to, uh, a yoga studio that I thought, you know, where I had practiced.   Dr. Gail Parker: (39:34) I said, I think, and she loved you yoga. And I, and wanted to learn more. So I said, well, go to this studio. I'm sure it'll be fine. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She shows up in her brown skin. Mm-hmm her full body. Mm-hmm with her little yoga outfit on and her little yoga mat on her shoulder. And is green did at the reception desk with, are you here for yoga? Oh no. I'm here to get my hair done. Yeah. you know, it's and, and now, so, and, and, and to challenge that, number one, you don't wanna have to number one. Yeah. Number two, it always comes as a surprise. It's never anticipated. You just don't and you know, you just don't. Um, and it's not the only time it happens. No. And you recognize it for what it is. What do you do about that?   Dr. Gail Parker: (40:30) What do you say? You know what I mean? It's, it's, it's, it's, it's hard, it's difficult. And so part of the, the, the, the book is written to, to support people in understanding that what you're experiencing is real. It really is your experience. You're not making it up. Yeah. You know, when you are being discriminated against or treated differently differe or feared, or, you know, whatever that is, the person who's doing that may or may not be aware mm-hmm may or may not be aware, which is the eye in inclusivity, in that DEI. Exactly. You're talking about. Yeah, exactly. And so I was, it was funny. I was talking to somebody yesterday who wanted me, who wants me to, uh, teach in her program and, um, and she's white. And so I asked, I was saying, well, what's the racial demographic, because when I'm teaching this aspect of the practice, you know, for ethnic and race based stress and trauma, first of all, nobody is coming to yoga to deal with race based stress and trauma. Yeah. True. They're not, that's not why they're coming. Yeah. Nobody is right. However, yes, because of the transformative nature and sub nature of yoga, your stuff is gonna come up. Yes. Big time. It's gonna come up. Yeah. And if you're black, let's say let's okay. Let's pretend you're the person who comes in. Nobody makes room for you. Mm-hmm it hurts your feelings. Mm-hmm it makes you feel horrible, but you decide to stay anyway. Yeah. And let's say the yoga teacher comes up to you afterwards and says, how was it?   Dr. Gail Parker: (42:20) Can you be honest? can you be honest? Yeah. Can you be honest? Am I, you know, should I be honest? Do I dare risk being honest? Yeah. That in and of itself creates kind of stress. It's not that the teacher shouldn't ask that. Right. It's that? So in the person who has felt mistreated, misaligned, MIS misunder, not recognized mm-hmm , you know, it, it, it, it, it brings stuff up. Yeah. So the teacher has to be prepared to hear the answer to that question. And I would argue that's part of their awareness. Yeah. So, so you have as, as, as a white person for exam, not all yoga teachers are white, I'm talking. Right. But as a white person, if you're going to you, you have to be prepared. Mm-hmm to hear some things that you, that may be unfamiliar mm-hmm , that may be shocking.   Dr. Gail Parker: (43:17) Mm-hmm that may cause you to feel defensive mm-hmm . And am I able to stand in my own awareness of self and be present for you in your time of need mm-hmm you need to be honest with me. Yeah. Can I receive your honesty? That's that's the work, um, instead of getting the pushback and the, I didn't need, no, it didn't happen or explaining why you made that up or, you know, all of those things that, that we do, um, as , I mean, that that's, that's the work, you know, that's the work and it's, and for, uh, the person who's been, who feels, who has experienced being othered. Yeah. Injured actually treated differently. Mm-hmm , um, um, injured, injured in that moment. Yeah. How do I, how do I deal with my own internal experience of what has occurred? Do I ignore it? Mm. Do I keep on pushing? Do I, um, withdraw and sink into a, a, a place of immobility? You know, H how am I responding to my own internal experience of the injury and what is, and how do I find my wellbeing in that moment, when you, when you're racial stress and trauma are so common in this culture that we learn to ignore it, we learn to adapt. Right. We adapt.   Dianne Bondy: (45:02) Yeah. How else would you survive?   Dr. Gail Parker: (45:04) Yeah. And some of our adaptations are maladaptive.   Dianne Bondy: (45:09) So just to backtrack a little bit, we talked about that adaptation we make, when we encounter that initial, you know, othering, or I called it that injury, like to me, that's injury. Right. I, um, my friend, Keisha and I, as to, um, very black women show up to, uh, a yoga class was running a little late, cuz she was coming from work. I was ahead of her. So I rolled out my mat and I didn't put a place folder next to me because I wanted to see, and this was a really busy class prior to the pandemic. I wanted to see if anybody would roll out their mat next to me. And the class got fuller and fuller and fuller. And yet that space next to me remained unclaimed. And then when she ran a little late, like for Keisha running a little late means she's only five minutes early.   Dianne Bondy: (46:01) Generally. She's like 20 minutes early, like running late for her five minutes. And it was about two minutes after the, um, the start of the class, the class started at seven 30, it was about 7 32. Uh, and then finally at 7 32, this person came in and rolled out their mat next to me. And I could say to them, I'm actually saving that space. But it was amazing to me that in 2020 or 2019 at the time that this was still going on, that people didn't wanna roll out their mat next to me and were fully, I think, unaware of that in a yoga space. And you know, I seen people like get physically uncomfortable. Like I don't know what people think is gonna happen practicing next to a black person.   Dr. Gail Parker: (46:42) Well, I, first of all, two things, I'm not sure that people are unaware of that. I think they would've claimed that they were unaware of that. Mm-hmm I don't think people are unaware that. Hmm. I really don't. I just the claim they're yeah. And number one, number two. I think that these are conditioned responses. If all, as my brother put it many years ago, if all you knew about black people is what you saw on televis. Yeah.   Dianne Bondy: (47:15) Yeah.   Dr. Gail Parker: (47:16) It's true. You live in segregated communities. Yeah. If you are not engaged black people are most of the time. Yeah. So many of us are, so we know that culture. Yeah.   Dianne Bondy: (47:31) Yeah. We D know us. It's true.   Dr. Gail Parker: (47:34) And my question is, are you willing to get to know us? Yeah. You know, frequently the question is asked, how do I get more black people to come to my   Dianne Bondy: (47:44) Yoga classes all the time? That's the number one question   Dr. Gail Parker: (47:48) Into the communities of people that you claim you want in your space.   Dianne Bondy: (47:54) Yeah.   Dr. Gail Parker: (47:55) Do you engage? You know, just because you want, um, black and brown people around you. Okay. That's nice. How do it, it, it doesn't happen by magic.   Dianne Bondy: (48:10) Yeah. Or osmosis   Dr. Gail Parker: (48:12) It, it it's intentional. You have to make efforts to, and, and advertising about it. Isn't the effort. No. Be willing to engage the, the people in the community. I mean, I, I,   Dianne Bondy: (48:28) It seems obvious. Yeah. Yeah.   Dr. Gail Parker: (48:30) Yeah. It seems obvious. And if you're not, you don't have to be. I mean, if you, you know, if you don't want to that's okay too. Yeah. But   Dianne Bondy: (48:37) Don't expect people to come to your class then like don't initiate that conversation. The number one conversation I get in any of these diversity equity trainings is how do I get more diversity into my studio? I'm thinking, how are you engaging these other communities? And are you showing up with the white savior trope one for two a, you know, authentically, why do you want more diversity in your yoga class? Do you want it in your yoga class? Because this is a personal project for you. Like this is a person self, a project I'm going to better myself by engaging in other communities. And then have you done the work so that when you do show up in that other community, that you're not further traumatizing that community, that seems to be the issue. Do are people of color going to feel safe enough to relax in your space because when that brown person or that black person walked into the space and know nobody moved their mat to make room for me, I'm holding onto that feeling for the entire practice.   Dianne Bondy: (49:37) I came in here for a healing practice. The first three minutes into the practice I'm traumatized because nobody is willing to make space for me, um, to be in the room. And I'm just supposed to what adapt, ignore, or figure that stuff out on my own. And my mat then after class, the teacher comes up to me and goes, oh, welcome to the space. How was it for you? And I'm almost compelled in this moment to say, oh, it was a wonderful practice. I loved the way you did whatever, as opposed to it really hurt when I came into the space and nobody moved their mat. And you didn't say, cuz what I usually say in these situations is there everybody move up because the minute you get everybody to move up space seems to magically find a hole in the center or off to the side like that.   Dianne Bondy: (50:21) You didn't have the awareness to see that I was, you know, struggling in this moment and come to my aid, which is basically your job as a teacher. When I'm looking out into the studio space, I'm looking at how I can make this practice as interesting and adaptable and inclusive and equitable as I can. And you miss that first pillar, that first calling of nonviolence, by not stepping up and saying, I see a situation happening. I'm aware of the situation happening. Yes, I'm uncomfortable. The situation is happening because that's the job of your yoga practice is to sit with your discomfort, to be aware of it, to notice it and either do something about it. When that discomfort is disrupting the entire essence of the class and not just my own personal experience. And, and you didn't do anything like what's the point of the teacher to stand up there and call out poses because it's so much more than that.   Dianne Bondy: (51:14) Mm-hmm and I, I can't, I can't tell you how I just watched. It was just an observation. I'm not gonna put a placeholder here, cuz generally I'll take a towel or a water bottle and hold space for somebody. I'm not gonna put a placeholder here and I'm gonna watch this. You yoga class that generally has 30 or 40 people in it, fill up and see how many people are actually gonna roll out their mat for me. And it was only under duress that somebody decided to roll out their mat, that they were just running outta space everywhere else. But I'm gonna roll out my mat next to the black person.   Dr. Gail Parker: (51:43) Now here's the responsibility. I think of the person who is being avoided yes. I think we have a responsibility to say something about it. I really do. I mean, I think now we may not be prepared to do that. You know what I'm saying? You just may not have it in   Dianne Bondy: (52:06) You in that moment. Yeah.   Dr. Gail Parker: (52:11) But I really do think that that is that's where the responsibility in healing one's own, um, suffering associated with these kinds of incidents. Mm-hmm important be, cause it's empowering. Mm-hmm and can't, it is an act of, you know, you're you are a social justice activist actively doing that. Mm-hmm I, I am too, I guess, but in a different totally you are a willingness to step up and not have a fight with anybody. No. Yeah. But from a place of that equanimity, that, that balanced place of wellbeing, this is why we cultivate wellbeing so that we can come from that place of wellbeing to express in the moment who, what has occurred. Mm-hmm how it affected me and what I think ought to happen. That's our work. Absolutely. That's hard to do. It is. It's easy to do.   Dianne Bondy: (53:22) It's actually scary for some folks, right?   Dr. Gail Parker: (53:25) It's well, no, it's always scary. Yeah. That's another thing I have with, we have to make a safe space. Well, yeah we do. Except that this is not safe work.   Dianne Bondy: (53:34) Mm   Dr. Gail Parker: (53:36) Yeah. This is courageous work. This takes, yes. It takes courage. Yes. Into that level of vulnerability and often, which by the way, for black and brown people particularly has been and continues to be a dangerous place to be.   Dianne Bondy: (53:53) Yes, yes, yes. Yes. My, one of my favorite quotes is by DL Hughley, the most dangerous place that black people reside is in the imaginations of white folks. Mm-hmm . And so setting aside all of that stuff, right. To actually see the person who's in front of you and interact with the person who's in front of you and see how that person's being treated in that space and step into that. That's and   Dr. Gail Parker: (54:19) That's hard to do if you are conditioned not to do that, if you're color blind.   Dianne Bondy: (54:24) Mm yes, yes, yes. These are the things we have to do as practitioners. This is the self-study work that we're talking about. This is the self-awareness that you mentioned at the very beginning and the onset of this podcast. Yeah. And I think it's amazing we're out there teaching yoga and have a deep disconnection to our own self-awareness I was out for dinner last Friday with a group of, um, my son's, my son graduated from the eighth grade, you know, back in June. And we had like a get together with all the moms whose kids have gone from, you know, SK up to grade eight and you know, and we've been on all the field trips and we've done all the things together and it was kind of like a, it was the last horah for me. Um, I don't know as women continue to meet together.   Dianne Bondy: (55:08) So there are seven or eight of us, all of them, white. I'm the only black person there. And I sit down to dinner and of course there's always a conversation around my hair, which I'm tired of answering. I've been answering questions about my hair since I was probably six years old. I'm 51. I don't wanna have conversations about it anymore, but people don't seem to understand that. Um, and we set, sat down and one of the women at the table said to me, um, Hey, I thought a lot about you last summer when George Floyd died in the black, the rise of the black lives matter movement. Now, do you think everything has changed?   Dianne Bondy: (55:42) And I was like, uh, what exactly has changed? You, you painted in Washington square, wherever it is, black lives matter on the road that keeps being vandalized by fair, that keeps happening to be reinstated and vandalized. There's been no change in legislation. There's been no equity or equitable laws that have been changed to change anything. Uh, just a bunch of performative action. And then she tried to open her mouth to tell me that I wasn't seeing it the way that, um, she was seeing it. And that change actually hap is happening. And I just felt like saying to her, and then when she was opening her mouth to say that, I just said, this has been my experience and my perspective and that closed her mouth because she couldn't, she couldn't say anything to that because I was speaking to my experience. And what is amazing to me is that willful ignorance that we think that these performative I'm embodied actions of social justice actually lead to change because I don't believe that they do. It's only an embodied practice. I think that leads to change. It's only when you can actually see somebody else's suffering and have some kind of awareness of that or feeling of that, that things actually change. What are your   Dr. Gail Parker: (56:55) Thoughts? I think it's actually, I think it's, it's only when you're aware of and have dealt with your own suffering. Mm   Dianne Bondy: (57:02) Yeah.   Dr. Gail Parker: (57:03) Then be present mm-hmm for someone else's mm-hmm mm-hmm see. And, and again, we live in a culture in the United States anyway, where,   Dianne Bondy: (57:14) Oh, here   Dr. Gail Parker: (57:14) Too. Yeah. So the, I think that the underlying belief is that in the dominant culture is that we shouldn't have to suffer.   Dianne Bondy: (57:25) Yeah. I would agree with that.   Dr. Gail Parker: (57:27) And, and so therefore we're always trying to avoid it or be, or we're mad about it instead of recognizing that no suffering is part of life. Yeah. And when we can deal with our own suffering mm. Our own suffering and take a deep dive into that and unpack that. Um, I think now we're making some progress. I yeah. As I'm trying to manage your suffering. Mm.   Dianne Bondy: (58:00) I can't do my own.   Dr. Gail Parker: (58:01) Well, first of all, I can't manage your suffering. All right. Bear, witness to it again, isn't that what our yoga and meditation practices teach us to bear witness, to observe, you know, we teach that a meditative mind. Isn't a quiet mind. It's an observed, it's an observing mind observed mind, you know, I'm paying attention to my own thoughts, paying attention to my own suffering. I'm paying attention to my own indifference to your back. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever that is, you know, um, this is personal work. It's   Dianne Bondy: (58:40) Deep work. It's hard   Dr. Gail Parker: (58:41) Work. It's hard work. It really is. That's why everybody ISN doing it.   Dianne Bondy: (58:47) Yeah. Understood. Like it, it goes back to what my mother always says to me, if it were easy, Diane, everybody would do it. She would always say that to me when we were growing up. So I wanna ask you just, as we're coming up on the hour already, I wanna ask you about your next book. Can you tell us a little bit about how this work continues to evolve in this, in this second volume, if you will.   Dr. Gail Parker: (59:11) So the next book evolved out of the first book and it came, it was an answer to the question that people were asking me over and over and over again in these webinars. Well, how do I do that? Right. Apply what you have learned. Yeah. And I'm say, yeah, yeah. How do, how do I do that? How do I shine a light on my own, um, pain and suffering, for example, mm-hmm, , mm-hmm . And so I realize I, I, I owed it to people to have an that question. . Dang it. Yeah. I can't keep saying you have to do the practice, right? Yeah. People before I used to have a radio show called as a psychologist and I would, I named it stumped the shrink. I mean, so it was like, kinda that, the answer to that question was, I don't know how to answer that question.   Dr. Gail Parker: (59:59) Right. well, I took some time and I thought, okay, let me see. I, I, I have to answer this question. So the, the, the second book is called transforming, um, ethnic and race based traumatic stress with yoga, because I think it's, I, I think it's important that we begin to change the narrative. Mm-hmm that not only that we don't remain stuck in our trauma mm-hmm mm-hmm , but we, that we recognize that it is possible to access that place of wellbeing in the midst of trauma. That's the, that's hard to do, because why, because first we, you have to go through really a darkened eye of the soul to get there, to get on the other side of that, to get to digest and process what has happened. I heard yet, you know, it was interesting yesterday. I was listening to some, one of the, um, black police officers who was, um, uh, traumatized and, uh, the capital, you know, uh, insurrection that we, yes, I'm trying to see if I wrote it down.   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:01:10) It was so profound. Uh, what he said, he, but basically what he said is he said on top of I was being beaten and trying to save other people's lives. People were calling me the N word. He said, you, you can't process that kind of trauma in the moment it takes, it takes, it takes a while. It takes some distance to be able to process it. Mm-hmm he said, and to unpack all of that in, and, and to have to deal with being called the N-word while I'm trying to save these people's lives, he said, it's, I, I barely have words to explain. Oh, I can only imagine that is. And so, but, but, but he's willing to unpack it. That's what I found most interesting. This second book, it tells us how to do that. Mm-hmm this is how do, how do I learn to process? And I, the, the pain and suffering that I have not been able to heal that keeps me stuck in trauma. Mm-hmm keeps me stuck in maladaptive responses to these race related events. Mm. And, um, so I tell stories about how to do that. And then I, and then I about, about why it's important and what it, what constitutes race based stress and trauma mm-hmm . And then I, you teach how to use various and affirmations to support the reclamation, for example of innocence, huh? Black and brown children lose their innocence so early.   Dianne Bondy: (01:02:48) Yeah.   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:02:48) So early you have to grow up fast when you're grow, you know, racially hostile environment, and your parents know it. And you know, you, you, you have to teach your kids to grow up fast. So the reclamation of innocence can be found, I think, embodied in child's pose.   Dianne Bondy: (01:03:06) Yes. And when   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:03:07) You say affirmations, that support that, you know, I feel innocent. I feel free, you know, while you really that's how the book is written. So I, I think I offer 10 postures and 10 possibilities for reclaiming self-worth mm-hmm , um, self love. How to, how to practice patience, uh, transforming consciousness. I have all of that in there. It's good. I like it a lot.   Dianne Bondy: (01:03:34) I love it. I can't wait.   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:03:36) I just got the final proofs, uh, yesterday. So I'm re reading it before I send it in and it'll be printed pretty soon. Um, yeah, it's re it's nice. It's a nice companion guide to the first volume. The first volume is more, it, it, it lays out the theory and the science of talking about mm-hmm and this is the application of yes. All of that. And so it's nice.   Dianne Bondy: (01:04:02) Uh, it sounds divine. And I mean, having taken a couple of classes with you while you were in the process of writing the second volume, I see how that works and, you know, I, it, it, it's very powerful. And I would, I would tell my, our listeners, if you haven't had an opportunity, a to get the first volume of the book, buy it, any race, any ethnicity, any culture, I, it, it all applies. You will pull something out of it that will help you, you know, reconcile some feelings for yourself, help you understand your own, uh, humanity and your own feelings better. And then the second guide I, I feel is a must, because I think it gives from what you explain, it gives us really concrete practices that we can do on the daily. Not even if we're in a restorative post, but we can relive or revisit that place on the daily.   Dianne Bondy: (01:04:56) When we are smacked between the eyes often, it's often you, you don't see it coming, right. You don't coming. No, it hits you between the eyes and you need that. You need that voice in your head. to help you go, okay, this is how we're gonna process this moment. Right. And I think that companion guide that second volume is gonna be a must. I think both pose if, if you're a practitioner or a teacher, I think both books are, unless, especially if you're interested in this work, you can't, you know, you have to learn about it. Yeah. You do. You have, you have to be in it. Right. And   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:05:28) You have to learn about it from your own perspective, regardless of your own race and ethnicity. And that's how both of the books have been written. It invite it's written from my perspective, cuz that's every book is, that's   Dianne Bondy: (01:05:40) The only one you can write. Yeah.   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:05:42) But I make that clear, but all of this is applicable you. So if you can, as I said, the, the, the art is the application of mm-hmm, what you're learning and the skill and   Dianne Bondy: (01:05:55) That's beautiful. I can't wait I'm I preordered mine. So I'm excited. So I wanted to ask you a couple of rapid fire questions. So our listeners can get to know you, um, a little bit more personally, there's nothing really personal in there, but I just, I wanted to do this little rapid fire. I did this on a podcast and I thought it was kind of fun. So I'm just gonna throw a, a there. And you, you just tell me, tear coffee, coffee,   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:06:21) Coffee.   Dianne Bondy: (01:06:22) All right. Sweet or salty.   Dr. Gail Parker: Both. Both.   Dianne Bondy: I love that ocean or mountains,   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:06:29) Mountains.   Dianne Bondy: (01:06:32) I all about that? Resting or active?   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:06:38) My   Dianne Bondy(01:06:40) Yik. I know. Right? That's a hard one   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:06:43) To be on active. I like active.   Dianne Bondy: (01:06:46) I do. I active, like, you know, as the balance of stillness, right. Mm-hmm like, I don't think you can truly appreciate stillness a hundred percent unless you know what, the other side of that coin kind of thing. Right? What is your favorite quote?   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:07:04) My favorite quote, if you haven't.   Dianne Bondy: (01:07:05) Oh God. Yeah. If you have one. Oh   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:07:07) No. Oh my goodness.   Dianne Bondy: (01:07:10) What is a quote you've heard recently that you thought, huh? Well, that's interesting.   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:07:16) Stump the shrink.   Dianne Bond7: (01:07:18) Iwin!. Yes. There you go. And I just did it. I just did it. I get a prize. Um, what's your favorite book or what book are you currently reading? One or the other? Um,   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:07:30) I love my favorite book is the Alchemist. And I, I love that book. I've read it many, many times and I just read a book of core is the name I cannot remember right now because I just read it,   Dianne Bondy: (01:07:43) You know? Right, right, right.   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:07:44) Yeah. Yeah. Actually it's the scientific, um, it's, it's a therapeutic approach to, to alchemy how Al yeah. Yeah. It's, it's good. It was good.   Dianne Bondy: (01:07:54) Interesting. Interesting. I love it. I like, I like alchemy. And do you have a mantra? Is, is there something that you say to yourself on the regular and you, I mean, you don't have to share the exact mantra, but is there like a, something that lifts you up when you're feeling like, oh, today's gonna be a long day or I just need something to calm my mind in the moment. Is there something that you say to yourself that helps you? I   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:08:15) Think, I think one of the things that I say all the time is growth continues.   Dianne Bondy: (01:08:20) Ah, I got that from you. I like that one. Yeah. I   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:08:23) Remember a client. You, my clients used to come, uh, to see me when I was doing psychotherapy. And again, I'd greet them at the door. How are you? And said, people would say it's been a growth week.   Dianne Bondy: (01:08:34) We know that we know what that means. Yeah. Yeah. It's been my, my favorite Gale quote or mantra that I use is when I'm running late. I'm like I have all the time in the world. That's the one I use a lot that you say, and yes it is. It's in the new book. Yeah. It must be. I'm always like that. Yeah. I have all the time in the world. Yeah. So that's   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:09:02) Why say that? What difference does it make   Dianne Bondy: (01:09:05) A huge difference? And what's really miraculous. Is it opens up time and space. I don't know why putting it out there. All of a sudden I'm not as concerned with, because I feel I have time and I always show up on time, even though I'm running late. I know. Isn't, it's amazing. It's amazing. I know. I think it just like, I feel my shoulders peel away from my ears. I feel my grip on the staring wheel, relaxed. I feel the tension in my body ripped out a couple of deep breaths and I repeat that mantra and it takes effect in such an amazing way. And I show up on time. I'm not early, but , I show up on time.   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:09:44) That's the alchemy. So, you know, alchemists, the old alchemists used to turn lead into gold.   Dianne Bondy: (01:09:51) Wow.   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:09:53) That's our work.   Dianne Bondy: (01:09:55) Come on.   Dr. Gail Parker: (01:09:56) Our lead into gold. That's that place of wellbeing. That inner place that we all have, we just have to figure out how to, how to find how   Dianne Bondy: (01:10:10) It's like it's deep and we have to get at it. Yeah. Well, I wanna thank you for this beautiful conversation. I am always in such awe, every conversation I have with you, I learn something. Uh, I am grateful for your teachings, your presence. And I loved seeing you on the front of yoga journal. I know you can't still get that copy, but it was yeah. Show us the copy. Um, I have mine. I actually framed that. I framed, I pulled off the front age and I framed I'll take a picture of it and send i

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Saga Kraft

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2020 28:28


Welcome to Saga Kraft: myths, fairytales, legends stories, comfort us, inspire us and heal us. Please join us. As we share our stories, both old and new, more than anything, we are open to the story and it's unfolding at times. It may be one story told by one person at times it's the same story told through three different voices. In the end, we go where the story takes us and we invite you to follow. I'm C a writer, artist, and storyteller. I'm Betsy, a medium and teacher of mystery. I'm Gabriela, an artist and practitioner of folk magic. We are magic. Oh, very common in training. That I've chosen is the story of from the North Epic poem called the Sears prophecy or Volvo spa. And a little background is that the Norris and Viking and pre Viking times were not literate. The North myths were well known through oral tradition for the Norse. Inventing a new story was not valued as much as the poetic retelling of a known story. The versions that we have of the myths were written during the times when conversion to Christianity had already occurred, when stories were still largely remembered. Before being written down myths were living and could change from storyteller to storyteller. Also there wasn't organized religion, but instead during those Viking and pre biking times, the heads of settlements, their wives, or even poets were the storytellers and officiator is that ceremonies and could tell the myths from their own perspective. The Epic poem, Vola spa begins after creation has already occurred. And through the telling of the story, the Norris creation myth gets retold, including the story of GoBank herself. The story goes like this. A sear, a prophetess is summoned by the all father Odin King of the gods. She's a mighty practitioner of side in life and her power is vast and undiminished. Oh, comes to her as a seeker and asks her about the oldest deeds of gods and men. She gives him much more than he asked for. She starts by remembering the night worlds and nine giant hisses, and that they raised her in those long gone days. She remembers the seed from which the world tree Yik dress cells sprouted that tree, which holds the nine worlds in the beginning. There was no land, no sea, no earth or sky or a greenery. There was just a huge yawning, chaos void called goodness, a gap and an immense giant named Emir. Dismembering ear. Oh, then and his brothers created the nine worlds from his body in these worlds, the sun and the moon, and the stars help things to thrive, but they themselves knew no order, no knowledge of their true places and no sense of their true might. All the God powers went back to the Thrones of fate, that place of the sacred gods and together, they made a decision and that decision became time itself. It's included the naming of night and day and the separation of them and the orderlies cyclical aspects of time. Then on the vast Plains of Eve, all the gods continued. And created workshops and made temples high shrines, golden treasures, and many tools with which to create more happy about this. They played in their lush gardens and enjoyed the plenty they had created. They had lots of gold Ben, three terrible and powerful giantism came from Yotes and hammer the world of the giants. Thus ending that golden age, the God powers went back to the Thrones of fate and decided to make dwarves many dwarves out of the remainder of the giant is rotting limbs. These dwarves were little and manlike. Three gods and full of people. Power and passion went back to mid guard and found two pieces of driftwood, ask an umbrella who were weak in capable. And without it's looking in human, they had no breath, no soul and no life breadth. So, and life itself was given to them by the three gods and ask an envelope, became humans. That sprout of gig dress. So now grown into a mighty tree, develops drew drops from it as it stands forever green over IRT as well, three wise ones known as NORNS live under the tree at the...

Galactic Conflict Podcast
Episode 19 - Team Canada World's Recap

Galactic Conflict Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2019 81:58


Show Notes Episode 19 – Team Canada World’s Recap  Welcome back to another episode of Galactic Conflict!  On today’s episode I have Carlo, Norm and Yik joining me.  We talk about Worlds, I spoil some rumours from a reliable source and discuss the prevalence of full sqns in lists at Worlds.  And also touch on the Campaign article.   I hope you enjoy!     Like us on FB.  Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/Galacticconflictpodcast/   Star Wars Armada Explained – Please Subscribe https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk6GTkq26uZEMbZnBiUQbWw   Music provided by Free Music Archive Boxcat_Games – Battle_Special Please like and rate us on Itunes Rated PG https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-c5bxu-8a4bfa#.Wo8fsLYs2Po.facebook Any feedback can be directed to galacticconflictpodcast@gmail.com iTUNES and Google Play:  Search for Galactic Conflict Podbean:  https://galacticconflictpodcast.podbean.com/  

Back To Degrassi Podcast
Back To Degrassi Podcast Episode 32 - Season's Greetings

Back To Degrassi Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 26, 2019 45:50


Jun 5th, 2016. Host Tim McDonald (@timfmmcdonald) is joined by fantastic Toronto Stand-Up Comedian Kyle Andrews (@KyleArmageddon). We watched the S03E04 "Season's Greetings". Arthur and Yick have a falling out at Christmas time. The episode is a Christmas themed clip and bottle show. It was quite bold of them to think people wanted a flashback of Yik and Arthur's relationship. Honestly, they were reaching there. It's a bit of a shorter episode, but Kyle and I had a great time discussing it!

Back To Degrassi Podcast
Back To Degrassi Podcast Episode 10 - Smokescreen

Back To Degrassi Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2019 88:57


May 31st, 2016. This week I (@timfmmcdonald) went Back To Degrassi with Nick Martinello (@MartinelloJokes) and Darren Springer (@flintbeverage). We had a blast talking about this episode where Rick joins the Environmental Action Committee as a "smokescreeen" for his crush on Caitlin. Yik also tells a very dark story of his journey to Canada, involving brushes with death. Caitlin also does an amazing rap, Arthur is real dorky, Kathleen is a bitch, and Susie's uncle is apparently an astronaut.

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Galactic Conflict Podcast
Episode 17 - Grand Master Yik

Galactic Conflict Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2019 82:07


Show Notes Episode 17 – Grand Master Yik Welcome back to another episode of Galactic Conflict!  On today’s episode I have an interview with Yik, the runner up at last year’s Worlds and Canadian Nationals and recent Regional winner at FFG HQ.      This was recorded before Christmas and I finally got around to editing the episode.  I hope you enjoy!     Music provided by Free Music Archive Boxcat_Games – Battle_Special Please like and rate us on Itunes Rated PG https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-c5bxu-8a4bfa#.Wo8fsLYs2Po.facebook Any feedback can be directed to galacticconflictpodcast@gmail.com iTUNES and Google Play:  Search for Galactic Conflict Podbean:  https://galacticconflictpodcast.podbean.com/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/Galacticconflictpodcast/

Galactic Conflict Podcast
Episode 4 Canadian Nationals Review (Pre-FAQ)

Galactic Conflict Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2018 124:36


Show Notes Episode 4 – Canadian Nationals Review Welcome back to another episode of Galactic Conflict!  On today’s episode I have interviews with Yik and Carlo the recent finalists at Canadian Nationals.   I also have included the short interviews that I conducted with them live at the event and then we go into much more detail about their lists in follow up interviews.  1:10 First up is Yik who placed 1st after swiss and was the runner up after all was said and done.  32:40 After we discuss nationals we go on to discuss his philosophy on list building.  1:01:12 Second returning to the Podcast is Carlo the 2018 Canadian National Champion.  1:28:38 After we discuss his run at Nats we go on to discuss Turn 0 for newer players.    VTTV Live Feed of Canadian Nationals https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk3Ylq2jwldNGynR7HLoFbA   Music provided by Free Music Archive Boxcat_Games – Battle_Special Please like and rate us on Itunes Rated PG https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-c5bxu-8a4bfa#.Wo8fsLYs2Po.facebook Any feedback can be directed to galacticconflictpodcast@gmail.com iTUNES and Google Play:  Search for Galactic Conflict Podbean:  https://galacticconflictpodcast.podbean.com/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/Galacticconflictpodcast/ And the FB group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/158458721624588/?source_id=207726109966612  

Inside PR
Inside PR 473: Yik has Yakked

Inside PR

Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2017 23:47


Twitter hooks up with Bloomberg. Feedly features mute filters. Sysomos integrates its services as stacks in a single platform. And Yik Yak throws in the towel.Continue Reading → The post Inside PR 473: Yik has Yakked appeared first on FIR Podcast Network.

Josie and The Podcast
Tonantzin Oseguera // Troublemaker turned Dean of Students, Social Media + Judicial Affairs & Understanding the student experience through Snapchat

Josie and The Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2016 66:33


How can Snapchat, Yik Yak and Instagram give administrators a pulse of the real student experience? Today’s episode features Dr. Tonantzin Oseguera who shares her personal experiences integrating digital communication tools as a Dean of Students at Cal State Fullerton. In this role, she oversees vital student support services including the Behavioral intervention team, Title IX implementation team, as well as student conduct for a campus of 40,000. Learn how she balances policy and procedures with her playful personality, yet purposeful presence online and on campus.  

Amplify Today: Stories of the Human Spirit

Reddit App, Alien Blue, SammyDress, BuzzFeed, Yik Yak, BMW, Uber, Verizon, Yahoo, Brave Browser, Facebook Live, Livestream, REI and Snapchat top today's headlines. 

Undone Redone
UR 61: Online Summer Safety

Undone Redone

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2015 24:31


Summer is here! That means the kids are out of school and looking forward to fun and exciting summer activities. It also means that as parents, we need to take a moment to think about our strategy around technology for the summer in order to ensure that our children are safe. In this episode of the Undone Redone podcast, Tray and Melody talk briefly about teaching our children about healthy digital citizenship and then dive into 6 or 7 popular apps that can be potentially dangerous for our children.      Please share this episode with your family and friends…especially those who still have children in the home. 

Der Übercast
#UC023: Typed

Der Übercast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2015 82:27


Sven gibt euch einen Einblick was die Verwaltung seiner Kontakte anbelangt, Patrick will über die HoloLens von Microsoft reden und Andreas recherchiert was die Jugend so an sozialen Netzwerken nutzt. Lieber Fluggast, wenn dir das Gehörte gefällt oder dir Sorgenfalten auf die edle Stirn fabriziert, dann haben wir etwas für dich: iTunes Bewertungen. Überbleibsel Posteo.de Also doch. Dank Hörer Andreas Göb können wir doch noch einen alternativen Email-Anbieter aus deutschen Landen empfehlen: Posteo. Standards: IMAP, POP3, Kontakte & Kalendar Günstig: 2GB Postfach für 1€/Monat Grün: Ökostrom Sicher: Verschlüsselung und Two-Factor-Authentication Anonym: Sowohl bei Anmeldung als auch Zahlung Alles Richtig gut. Doch was fehlt? Leider, leider werden keine Custom Domains unterstützt. So tickt YouTube Das Follow-up schlechthin zu unserer letzten Episode: Jetzt gibt die Präsentation von Andreas bei der Mercedes-Benz Social Media Night auch für alle die es nicht geschafft haben sich Karten zu reservieren ↓. .embed-container { position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%; height: 0; overflow: hidden; max-width: 100%; } .embed-container iframe, .embed-container object, .embed-container embed { position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; } Überschallneuigkeiten Neu auf www.derubercast.com Bei dem Umzug von Squarespace auf Jekyll hat Patrick in der Tat ein noch ein paar Fehler mit eingebaut. Unter anderem hat Der Übercast jetzt leider Gottes diese Makel: eine Suchfunktion eine Inhaltsverzeichnis (die ••• unter dem Audio Player) Huffduffer ist mit an Board ein gescheites Logbuch ein Vektorlogo mehr responsive als je zuvor und eine Vielzahl an kleinen Designanpassungen Kurz um, alles bestens vom Backend her und Patrick muss sich nicht mehr für jede kleine Änderungen durch das Squarespace Forum wühlen… den Rest verkneift er sich, denn wer weiß, vielleicht steht SQ irgendwann mal mit einem Werbebanner auf der Gangway. Aufruf: Im Bannerbereich der Webseite findet ihr auch die wichtigste Neuerung → einen Cursor der wie ein Flugzeug aussieht. Sven hat ihn abgewählt, ihr Hörer und Leser könnt euch melden und den ikonischen Cursor zurückholen bevor er ins Bermuda-Dreieck stürzt; sagt “Nein Sven, dass darf nicht sein!” Real Mac - Typed.com Bashing In unserem Privatchat bei Slack hat das neuste Gedankenkind von Real Mac Software keinen großen Anklang gefunden. Eigentlich wollten wir das schön brav totschweigen, da wir eigentlich keine Freunde des klassischen Verrisses sind… aber… bei einem brechen dann doch die Pferde aus der Ferrari-Karosserie. Kurz: Unser italienischer Hengst gibt sich selbst die Sporen und galoppiert über die digitale Schreibmaschinen-Plattform mit Karacho hinweg. Lantern – Ein Gerät, unendlich viel Neuigkeiten direkt aus dem Weltall Ein Spezial welches Extra für unseren Kurbelradiobesitzer von Patrick rausgesucht wurde. Die Endzeit kann kommen, damit bleibt ihr von der Datenverwahrlosung verschont. Quelle: Indiegogo Lantern: One Device, Free Data From Space Forever TERA by LUNAR | Fitness Mat Da nun schon was für Sven genannt wurde, kommt nun noch was für Andreas. Mit der Tera Matte kann sich Andreas seine Workouts zusammenklicken, z.B. den abstürzenden Kranich. Die Matte zeigt Andreas dann an, dass er seinen Kopf ans obere Ende platzieren muss und seinen Körper gefälligst dementsprechend verrenkt, so dass der Vogel möglichst kaputt aussieht. Alles in allem, wenn denn genügend Übungen dabei sind, wäre das ein tolles Spielzeug, welches im übrigen auch schon bei uns zulande einen Preis für das durchaus extravagante Design gewonnen hat. Sieht auf jeden Fall besser aus, als Patrick’s Yoga-Matte… aber macht euch selbst ein Bild, denn hier kommt der direkte Vergleich: Die Tera Matte korrigiert quasi eure Pose und räumt den Raum schön auf immer wenn ihr nicht hinschaut. Patrick hat versucht diese Szene möglichst detailgetreu und nahe am Original nachzustellen. Dafür hat er extra sein bestes Unterhemd ausgekramt: Quelle: TERA by LUNAR – Fitness Mat Die Zwei Neuheiten sind übrigens eher als Klamauk zu werten, welcher den Co-Hosts brühwarm von ihrem Berliner Co-Pilot als must-have verkauft wurde. Aber wer weiß, vielleicht findet ihr die Dinger trotzdem ganz Schmucke. Kontakte verwalten auf Mac OS X Angekündigt von Patrick mit dem dubiosen Untertitel “Speed-Dating mit Sven” wird euch nun präsentiert, wie und womit der Herr und Meister seine Kontakte verwaltet. Apples Kontakte Ranting Sven legt noch einmal einen vor und teilt weiter aus. Seine große Beschwerde über Contacts.app beinhaltet, dass unser OS X’er Adressbuch zwar funktioniert, aber wie das bei Apple-Lösungen nun einmal so ist, der Anwendungszweck zu minimal gehalten ist. Nichts für Power-User und Sven sehnt sich nach den Zeiten, wo es noch einen Master-Kontakt gab, bei dem man einmal eine Firma anlegt und alle Mitarbeiter dann eben dieser zuweisen kann, ohne jedes Mal die Adresse neu einzutippen. Tipps für Smartlisten hat er auch parat, gerade wenn man den Frühjahrsputz macht, dann sollte man mit folgenden Einstellungen rumspielen: alte Kontakte, Neue Kontakte, Zuletzt geändert. Sven sieht so, wer schon ewig lange im Adressbuch drinnen ist und kann dann entscheiden, ob denn immer noch ein tiefes, inniges Verhältnis besteht, welches die Anwesenheit in der Kontakte.app erfordert. Noch eine Idee ist: IFTTT Integration via iOS app → LinkedIn Einladungen, Follow-up Emails. Cobooking Nach ein paar sehr kurzen Exkursen zu Google und Cobook bleibt Patrick bei Apples “Contacts” Lösung. Als Ergänzung schreibt er in das Notizfeld zu seinen Kunden ein kleines Projekttagebuch mit Datum und Link zum TaskPaper File des jeweiligen Auftrags. Dazu hat er noch 23 Web Services drinnen. Dies aber auch nur, weil diese Services anbieten per Email Daten einzusenden. Die wichtigsten Freunde aus dem Internet haben es auch geschafft. An Cobook und Co. haben ihn fertig gemacht, dass die Avatare automatisch upgedatet werden. Mag sein das man das abstellen kann… aber wie dem auch sei, die Kontakte.app langt ihm ja so oder so. Smart Groups habe er entfernt, da Apple es nicht für nötig hält diese auf iOS zu unterstützen – gaaanz schwach. Ebenso fehlt, dass man auf iOS keine Gruppen erstellen kann oder Kontakte einer Gruppe zuordnen kann (außer man geht den Umweg über iCloud.com). Auch Sven wurde mit Cobook nie so richtig warm, vor allem, weil es eine Menubar-App war. Der Nachfolger FullContact hat die Mac Version komplett gestrichen. BusyContacts BusyMac, Macher der hoch- und vielgelobten Kalender Anwendung Busycal, haben ein neues Kind. Die Beta-Version von BusyContacts kann zurzeit kostenlos angetestet werden und Sven findet das ganze gut… und aufgeräumt… und der Funktionsumfang erst. Daylite Für alle die eine eierlegende Kontaktmilchsau brauchen ist Daylite mit seinen Trilliarden Möglichkeiten einen Blick wert. Gruppen im Kontaktbuch Für die Neugierigen gibt es noch mehr Details. So sieht es bei Patrick aus: Clients (Kunden) Contracts (Banken, Hausverwaltung, alles was mit Verträgen zu tun hat) Family (Die liebe Familie und die der Freundin) Friends (Die Auserwählten) University (Professoren und Mitstudenten) Web (Web apps wie Instapaper, Dropbox, …) Web Peers (die Freunde aus dem Internet) … und Sven zieht nach: Firma (inkl. Untergruppen für das direkte Team und die verschiedenen Grüppchen) Dienstleister (Gärtner, Bank, Frisör und Steuerberaterin) Ex-Kollegen Familie Freunde Notfall-Nummern (auf jeden Fall die von Lufthansa) Bei Andreas sieht es ähnlich aus. Er nimmt noch Veranstalter mit eine Gruppe auf. … übrigens Restaurants speichert Andreas in Foursquare-Listen, Patrick bei Yelp. Holodeck Mit dem Oculus VR haben wir ja schon ein populäres 3D Head-Set am Start. Das gute Stück soll ja nun endlich Mitte des Jahres rauskommen. Und dann kann endlich auch jeder in Zelda 1 abtauchen, nicht nur die Tech-Presse. Sony und Samsung arbeiten auch an einem. Microsoft hat aber immer noch etwas mehr Tragweite. Das hat Patrick neugierig gemacht. Im Oktober 2014 hat Google $542 Millionen für Magic Leap hingeblättert und will damit auch das augmented reality Ding pushen. Magic Leap hat es - wie Apple - auch gerne mit Patent-Tauscherei. Dabei haben sie wohl auch 1:1 Sachen aus allen möglichen Quellen kopiert. Typische Anwendungszwecke von solchen Brillen sind: Spiele Home-Cinema VR-UI’s Kreative Spielereien Augmented VS. Virtual VR: Unter VR ist Facebooks Oculus Rift zu verbuchen: Der Oculus Rift ist ein VR Gerät ihr seid im Pixelland, alles ist künstlich automatisch etwas limitierter grafikmäßig (jedenfalls zurzeit) Einsatzzweck: Spiele, Simulationen Im Prinzip kann man sich sowas auch DIY’en mit ein wenig Pappe… das DODOcase gibt’s für 20 EUR bei Amazon. Da müsst ihr nicht selbst basteln und habt was vorgefertigtes für euer iPhone, um mit ganz wenig Geld mal etwas Oculus Luft zu schnuppern. Es gibt wohl auch AR-Erweiterungen für den Oculus, auch kann man seinen Leap Motion als Controller benutzen. Kurz: Das Ding ist hackable. Ob’s elegant ist und breite Unterstützung hat, steht woanders niedergeschrieben. What we basically believe is that unlike the Microsoft or Sony pure console strategies, if you want to make this a real computing platform, you need to fuse both of those things together. Mark Zuckerberg Überhaupt hat der Zuckerberg mächtig auf den Putz gehauen nach der Akquise und getönt, dass der eigene Ansatz ja viel besser ist, da er nicht nur wie die Konkurrenz den Zockern an den Popo fassen will. AR: kann ein grafischer Layer über der reellen Umwelt sein damit auch vielseitigerer Einsatzzweck Somit kann man auf der Autobahn den neusten Bildzeitungsartikel lesen. Kampfpiloten haben ja auch head up Displays seit 1940 am Start. Wenn die heute mit MACH-3 das nutzen, dann kann Andreas in seinem geleasten Wartburg das wohl auch auf der Linken Spur benutzen. Da Augmented Reality Gadgets komplexer sind, begibt es sich naturgemäß, dass die Anforderungen an’s selbst Gerät höher sind: Nicht nur 3D-Rendering muss die Hütte können, auch muss in Echtzeit getrackt werden wo der eigene Kopf gerade ist. Ebenso muss die Umgebung in 3D gescannt werden, damit man mit der Hand interagieren kann. Für Patrick ist ein AR Gerät auch wesentlich interessanter, da es hier nicht so oft zu Motion Sickness kommen soll. Er hat bisher sein 3D Assassins Creed noch nicht weitergespielt, da er ein Sensibelchen ist. Trick 17 ist, das Bild auf dem 55″ und der zu kleinen Wohnung zu verkleinern, dann geht’s wohl. Google Google Glas Nun, bei Google Glas war schon AR vorhanden, dies aber ganz limitiert in der Ecke vom Bildschirm (meist kleine 2D Menüs). Kurz: Google hat den Zug da verpasst. Die Brille sollte ja so oder so eher als Smartphone-Ersatz dienen. Außerdem: Google hat kürzlich den Verkauf erst einmal eingestellt lustigerweise in derselben Woche wo die MS HoloLens vorgestellt wurde Vielleicht kommt ja “bald” eine V2… dann ganz sicherlich mit AR. Magic Leap Diese Neuerwerbung könnte der Grund sein, warum Google Glass eingestellt wurde. Magic Leap hat ähnliche Fähigkeiten wie die MS Holo Linsöh. Viel ist noch nicht bekannt, vor einem Jahr gab’s mal eine Welle, aber seitdem das Kind im Google-Einkaufswagen sitzt ist es (verdächtig) still. Microsoft HoloLens HoloStudio Zur Einstimmung hier die Vorstellung der HoloLens von Kinect Macher Alex Kipman: Das Ding wird wohl dieses Jahr noch mit Windows 10 auf den Markt geschmissen. Preis unbekannt. Anwendungen im Video: Video-Konferenz mit Live-Skitch am Objekt (Sanitärreparatur) jede Menge 3D Modelling Spiele: Minecraft Skype Netflix auf einer Hologram Leinwand Star Wars Hologramme zaubern Überhaupt findet Patrick neben Gaming den Ansatz mit Apps am spannendsten: Wettervorhersage auf dem Kühlschrank, Health-Stats im Badezimmerspiegel, oder gar noch ein Spiel was ihm die Zeit beim Zähneputzen versüßt. Who knows. Sven sieht sich schon als Doktor für Luxus-Schönheits-OPs in der Schweiz und Andreas will kochen lernen ohne sich das Gesicht an der Tomatensuppe zu verbrühen. Die Bedienung geht so… Voice-Commands Tap, Look, Tap Patrick mutmaßt, dass die Bedienung in den nächsten 5-7 Jahren wohl nicht so präzise sein wird, dass sie in der Tat für Designarbeiten taugen wird bei denen es auf Akkuratesse ankommt. Bei seinem Leap Motion ist es auch super schwer eine UI zu bedienen. In der Live-Demo von HoloStudio, wo man 3D Objekte in 3D bauen kann zeigt sich auch schon, dass Objekte an andere “snappen”. Die Präzision ist also in der Tat fragwürdig. Patrick sieht das HoloStudio eher so als ein MS Paint 2015… auch wenn’s cool ischt. HoloLens Die Entwickler nennen es ein “see-through display” und sagen “This was science-fiction and we’re bringing it into science facts”. Mit der HoloLens soll die Ära eingeläutet werden in welcher Computer mit der Umwelt interagieren können. Spannend, spannend, spannend. Daten Komplett holographischer Computer High-End CPU und GPU und noch eine CPU die für die holographischen Sachen zuständig ist => HPU wireless, keine Verbindung zu einem PC nötig Terabytes of information in real-time surround sound eine Tonne an Sensoren Zitate und Gedanken Das “Onsight Project” ermöglicht es einem auf dem Mars rumzulaufen. Die Wissenschaftler wollen bis Juli 2015 diese Technologie nutzen, so dass sie endlich mal ihren Mars Rover ausprobieren können. So unendlich cool sich das alles anhört, andere stellen erst einmal die elementaren Fragen: The question is when we can mix virtual and real worlds seamlessly, what are we going to want to do? Mark Bolas, associate professor, University of Southern California Patrick tipp darauf, dass man sich da ganz auf das Engagement und den Einfallsreichtum der Entwickler verlassen kann. Unsere Smartphones haben mittlerweile Anwendungen drauf, an die man vor ein paar Jahren nicht einmal im Traum gedacht hat. Ebenfalls aus der NY Times kommen auch begeistertere Stimmen: If successful,” he said, “HoloLens will ultimately expand the way people interact with machines just as the mouse-based interface did in the 1990s, and touch interfaces did after the introduction of the iPhone in 2007. James L. McQuivey, analyst at Forrester Research Im Vergleich zum Oculus Rift scheint die MS HoloLens um Meilen weiter entwickelt zu sein… mal sehen ob das in der Tat so ist. Den Tech Demos sind halt oft nur schön durchgerenderte Demos und nicht der Status Quo. Schocker der Woche All das erwähnte… alles was da oben steht ist nicht wahr. Es sind keine Hologramme die euch vorgegaukelt werden. In der Tat handelt es sich am ehesten noch um ein HUD (Head-up Display) und die Technik dahinter arbeitet wahrscheinlich mit Projektoren. Mutmaßlich durch unser Technik-Teleskop betrachtet sollte die HoloLens auch noch wesentlich leichter und komfortabler sein als der gasschutzmaskenartige Tragekomfort eines Oculus Rift Systems. Offen bleibt, wie es mit der Hitzeentwicklung aussieht, wo der Preis liegt und wie lange die Laufzeit ist, denn mit Kabel durch die Wohnung latschen will wohl keiner. Am Ende des Tages muss angemerkt werden, dass es eine V1 die uns in einem wirklichen sehr frühen Stadium präsentiert wurde. Mit genau dieser zieht sich aber Microsoft die Entwickler erst einmal ins Haus und Richtung Windows 10. Das Redmond Comeback steht in der Startlöchern. Verschiedene ODG Machen schon wesentlichen länger AR Brillen. Microsoft hat wohl vor einem Jahr dort mal zugelangt und für um die 100 Millionen € Patente eingekauft. Apple Apple bleibt lieber im Jetzt, bzw. spielt die Aufholjagd mit ihrer Y-Heft-Uhr. Die kann man zugegebenermaßen quasi morgen schon nutzen und sie wird wahrscheinlich auch funktionieren und vor allem nützlich sein im Alltag. P. Welker, Der Übercast Junge Internetkultur Unser Jüngster im Cockpit hat halt noch den besten Draht zur Jugend. Da bietet es sich an, dass er uns einmal erklärt, wie die Teens so das Internet nutzen und was gerade hip ist. Anlass dazu bietet ihm “A Teenager’s View on Social Media”. Dort bestätigt ein Jungspund, was wir alle schon längst geahnt haben: Facebook ist wie Sonntags in die Kirche gehen. Kein Jugendlicher will es, doch alle müssen nur wollen. Deshalb gibt es Alternativen: Yik Yak geht gut in den Staaten. Einhergehend mit der Popularität und Anonymität gibt es leider auch schon die schlimmsten Fälle des Cyber-Bullyings. Whisper bringt auch eine Ladung Anonymität und ist auch bei uns verfügbar. Eigene oder fremde Bilder und ein paar Nachrichten. Lokale Eingrenzung möglich. -988aee14a203) YouNow… mach dein eigenes Big Brother. Mehr Lesestoff von einer von Patricks meist-verhassten Seite: The Truth about Teens and Privacy. Schnelllebig wie das ganze ist gehen wir auch schnell zu den Picks. Unsere Picks Andreas: Hydra HDR Freund Andreas pickt die Ultra HDR App. HDR’iger geht’s nicht. Sven: Canva ist ein super einfaches Online Layout Tool mit dem sich schnell mal ein Grafik, eine Einladung oder Flyer gestalten lässt. Im Gegensatz zu den sonst gefürchteten Clip-Arts und Layouts ist Canva extrem stilsicher unterwegs und selbst der Unbegabteste kann richtig glänzen. Kostenloser Grundumfang, nur einige Grafiken, Fonts und Bilder kosten. Patrick: JPEGmini Das beste Tool um JPEG’s kleiner zu machen. In Spenderlaune? Wir haben Flattr und PayPal am Start und würden uns freuen.

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Future Talk
The keyboard–Where the human and computer meet. Future Talk-S1E3

Future Talk

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 28, 2015 13:46


An investigation into how user interfaces connect and separate virtual and real life.

Future Talk
Cryptocurrencies, Nutella and the Internet- Future Talk S1E1

Future Talk

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 18, 2015 9:02


How my partner and I grew a small litecoin mine in a multi-faceted business which led to the creation of NutellafoDoge.com.

Future Talk
Wait, someone would throw that away?- Future Talk S1E2

Future Talk

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 18, 2015 3:44


Teaching in Higher Ed
All that cannot be seen

Teaching in Higher Ed

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2015


On today’s episode, I talk about all that cannot be seen.   Podcast notes Mystery commercial that I really hope someone can find and send to me Augmented reality How Stuff Works explains augmented reality Mashable's augmented reality stories Yik yak chat service (For reasons explained in the podcast, I would rather not link to this […]

The 3 Old Guys
How do you put out a fire?

The 3 Old Guys

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2014 39:42


James, The KOS Intern is back hanging in the Head Quarters. D and C Rice agree to disagree about raising kids.

P4 Dokumentär
Sambafotboll i Ytterhogdal 2008-05-25 kl. 21.00

P4 Dokumentär

Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2008 40:00


Tomas och hela Ytterhogdal tar emot brassarna med öppna armar - för byn behöver ungdomar, och fotbollslaget YIK vill tillbaka till fornstora dagar i division 3. I P4-dokumentären Sambafotboll i Ytterhogdal hör du om byn som lever upp med brassarna som kommer varje vår. Och om killarna som satsar allt de har - och litet till - för att få spela för en europisk klubb. Reporter Ingrid Marklund

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