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En este episodio, Jairo y Samir celebran el décimo aniversario del Apple Watch, discutiendo su evolución, impacto en la salud y conectividad, y cómo ha cambiado la relación entre tecnología y moda. También discuten el futuro de Apple One y sus servicios de salud, así como la competencia de Perplexity en el ámbito de asistentes de voz.

Facilitator: Greg:Topics:  Issue with not giving battery notification pop-up on Iphone 16 Pro;  Asking iPhone or watch for how many steps walked;  How's everyone liking the Seeing AI with Be My Eyes with tabs?  Using the hand writing in Seeing AI; What can you use to see the description for photos in emails;  Are the movies played in Stereo or mono?;  Is there a way to delete mass Drafts?;  Experience with Apple music and Storage changes with 18 updates;  Except or reject website cookies?;  What is Apple One?;  Issues with using the Reader Mode in Safari;   Experience using Categories in the Email app?;   Still getting Summary with one email;   How to hide a Conversation notifications?;  Using Tapestry; New App called Blind Kitchen; Anyone using other cooking Apps?;  Anyone using Discord?;   Can you change the pitch on SIRI;  Trouble getting out of Dictation;   Turning the screen reader on and off;  Can you over Charge your watch?  Using the battery Optimization feature;  Where to take Apple watch for service;   Issues with hearing a breathing sound with voices with new update;   Anyone using Lire App or what other news apps?;    iBUG iBytes: Greg:  Setting up the relationships to different Contacts.

The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by guest Jill McKinley, Chuck Joiner, Marty Jencius. We discuss updates in Apple's ecosystem with guests Jill McKinley, Chuck Joyner, and Marty Gentius. We analyze the beta release of Vision Pro OS 2.3, Touch ID integration potential, and Mark Gurman's insights on an affordable Vision Pro headset. The episode also covers iOS 18's AI features, the success of the MacBook Air, iCloud storage pricing concerns, and experiences with RCS messaging. Finally, we review the future of Apple TV+ and the anticipated AI health coaching feature in Apple One The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com  Direct Link to Audio  Links to our Show Give us a review on Apple Podcasts! CLICK HERE we would really appreciate it! Click this link Buy me a Coffee to support the show we would really appreciate it. intouchwithios.com/coffee  Another way to support the show is to become a Patreon member patreon.com/intouchwithios Website: In Touch With iOS YouTube Channel In Touch with iOS Magazine on Flipboard Facebook Page BlueSky Mastodon X Instagram Threads Spoutible Summary Topics and Links We kick off the episode by exploring the recent beta release of Vision Pro OS 2.3, where our hosts discuss the lack of noteworthy changes and the implications for developers. Despite the excitement surrounding the Vision Pro, the conversation quickly turns to the need for Touch ID integration, speculating on how it might enhance user experience when using the headset. We then shift our focus to Apple's strategic moves within the AR and VR landscape. The team examines analyst Mark Gurman's insights on the future of Vision Pro, considering the potential for a more affordable headset to cater to a broader audience and how it may impact the existing technology. Chuck and Marty share their thoughts on the contrasting narratives within the industry regarding the evolution of AR, with some advocating for a shift back to Touch ID while others are optimistic about Face ID advancements. The episode further delves into iOS 18 and its growing AI capabilities, particularly in relation to Siri and the Vision Pro. Our hosts express caution and skepticism over how these features could meaningfully connect with Vision Pro functionality, highlighting the general anticipation around upcoming updates but recognizing the gaps in integration that remain. As we transition to discussing Apple's ecosystem, we touch upon the remarkable success of the MacBook Air and the long-standing favor it holds among users, followed by a celebration of the MacBook Pro's anniversary and its evolution over the years. The conversation around iCloud storage tiers reveals concerns regarding Apple's pricing strategy and the lack of competitive offerings compared to other services, prompting a lively debate on how Apple can adapt in this area to retain user loyalty. Shifting gears, we address the recent push for RCS messaging support on iPhones and the mixed experiences users have had when communicating with Android devices, particularly in relation to security. A cautionary tale emerges around phishing scams targeting iPhone users, reinforcing the importance of vigilance in an increasingly complex digital landscape. Finally, we touch on the enhancements made to the Apple One subscription service, specifically the anticipated AI health coaching feature that is poised to elevate user engagement and fitness tracking. Our hosts enthusiastically discuss the future of Apple TV+, reviewing its market position and the steps Apple needs to take to improve visibility and user retention as they roll out new content. In Touch With Vision Pro this week.  Apple Seeds visionOS 2.3 Beta 3 to Developers visionOS 2.3 Beta 3Apple Seeds visionOS 2.3 Beta 3 to Developers Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation Why Vision Pro is Apple's best reason yet to bring Touch ID back to iPhone Gurman: Vision Pro 2 won't release in 2025, but lower-cost headset is 'ramping up' iOS 18.4's new Siri powers get me really excited for Vision Pro's future Mark Zuckerberg Admits Apple Vision Pro Is Better Than Quest 3 For Watching Movie Beta this week. iOS 18.3 Beta 3 releases this week. Apple Seeds Third Betas of iOS 18.3 and iPadOS 18.3 Everything New in iOS 18.3 Beta 3 iOS 18.3 Temporarily Removes Notification Summaries for News  Apple Seeds Third Beta of watchOS 11.3 to Developers Apple Seeds Third Beta of tvOS 18.3 to Developers  Apple's Website Lists Unreleased tvOS 18.2.1 Update In Touch With Mac this week Apple Seeds Third Beta of macOS Sequoia 15.3 to Developers The MacBook Air Turns 17 Today Apple Announced the MacBook Pro 19 Years Ago Today iCloud It's time for Apple to modernize its iCloud storage tiers Messaging These US carriers currently support RCS messaging on iPhone  Phishing Attacks Use This Simple Trick to Defeat iPhone Message Security Apple One Apple One might finally get a brand new service later this year Tip How to Change Your Default iPhone Apps News CARROT Weather Introduces CarPlay App and Automatic Live Activities  Goldman Sachs CEO Says Contract With Apple May End Early Three Companies Are Now in the Running to Take Over the Apple Card Apple Pay Now Lets You Pay Later With Synchrony [Updated] iPhone Driver's License Support Coming to Illinois Apple TV+ maintained ‘modest' market share during Q4 2024 Announcements Macstock 9 is next summer. It's back again for 3 Days on July 11, 12, and 13th, 2025. Newsletter link here: https://mailchi.mp/0c81790aa2a8/macstock8-10132503?e=eb0c7039b1 Macstock 8 wrapped up for 2024. But you can purchase the digital pass and still see the great talks we had including Dave talking about Apple Services and more. Content is now available! .  Click here for more information: Digital Pass | Macstock Conference & Expo with discounts on previous events.  Our Host Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastadon @daveg65, and the show @intouchwithios   Our Regular Contributors Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet as well as Twitter and Instagram as @jgamet  His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at jencius@mastodon.social  https://thepodtalk.net  Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice  Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. Twitter @benroethig  Website: https://roethigtech.blogspot.com About our Guests Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group. Jill McKinley is a professional in the field of enterprise software, server administration, and IT. She started her technical career in Windows but now exclusively uses a Mac in her personal life. She hosts several podcasts, including Start with Small Steps and Small Steps with God, where she offers tips and insights for a better life. Her podcast is at https://startwithsmallsteps.com and X @schmern.

In their first episode for a new year and season, Nicole and Michael talk about how being homemaker is more than a full time job, why doing an annual insurance checkup is a good idea, updating WiFi security cameras, an assortment of recent Amazon purchases, doing a trial of Apple One, Fitness+ and News+, pizza bowls, and a roll-up of what they've been watching.

Apple esta preparando una nueva app. Ya sabemos que apple está muy interesada en cuidar de nuestra salud . Para ello, ha convertido su smartwatch en un perfecto monitor de salud para tener un registro de nuestros métricas.  Y para potenciar este ecosistema tan saludable, nos proporciona aplicaciones tan interesantes como sueño, vitals, y la propia Salud. Hace ya 4 años dió un paso adelante, no se conformaba con medir nuestro estado de salud y aconsejarnos hábitos saludables, pasó a la acción con su app Fitness+. Con la que pretende ayudarnos a conseguir ese estado óptimo de salud . Pues según las ultimas noticias de la mano de Gurman, parece que quiere dar otro paso más  y esta trabajando en una nueva app para ayudarnos. Esta app, que se llamaría Apple Coach, vendría apoyada en IA y nos haría un estudio integral  de nuestros datos y nos proporcionaría indicaciones personalizadas sobre dieta, sueño y ejercicio. Esta nueva app, además de nuestro Watch, podría usar la cámara de nuestros dispositivos para corregirnos posturas durante los ejercicios.  Al igual que fitness+, vendría incluida en la suscripción de Apple One. Ni que decir tiene que esperemos que ya venga traducida de una vez , no como Fitness+, porque seguir las instrucciones de un monitor o leerlas en subtítulos vale, pero tener que oír en otro idioma y leer en subtítulos como me riñen por mi dieta o por mi particular estilo al hacer el ejercicio, por ahí si que no paso. Apple ha lanzado la tercera beta de sus sistemas operativos iOS 18.3, Sequoia 15.3, ipad0S 18.3, y visión os 2.3. Si bien no han traído ninguna novedad destacable ni nada nuevo en Apple intelligence, si hay un par de detalles interesantes a destacar. En primer lugar, es la primera beta que trae la anunciada Genmoji al Mac. La tercera beta de MacOS Sequoia es la primera en disponer de esta característica que ya disfrutaban iPhone y iPad. Y un paso atrás que ha dado en iOS. Una de las principales novedades de Apple Intelligence, Los resúmenes de notificaciones inteligentes parecen estar dando problemas y Apple ha decidido desactivarlos en esta versión. Por supuesto no dudamos que este activada en la versión definitiva, pero es muy significativo. Y para terminar una noticia que agradecerán los usuarios de CarPlay y es que la aplicación Carrot, la genial y divertida aplicación del tiempo, nos va a deleitar con su información en la pantalla de nuestros vehículos. Desconocemos a día de hoy si será una características para usuarios premium o si estará incluida en el plan sin suscripción.  Sin más , despedimos el Manzanas Informadas de hoy Viernes 17 de Enero de 2025 y recuerda que esta noche a las 23:00 hora peninsular, tendremos un nuevo directo.

The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by guest Patrice Brend-Amour, Marty Jencius, Jeff Gamet, and Ben Roethig. We explore the latest updates from Apple's ecosystem Our discussion starts with the Vision Pro and the release of Vision OS 2.3 beta, touching on future HomeKit integrations. We dive into gaming advancements with NVIDIA's GeForce Now for the Vision Pro and discuss video playback options,The conversation shifts to iOS updates, including the minor changes in iOS 18.2.1 and expectations for the iOS 18.3 beta. We share insights from CES, highlighting innovative products. The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com  Direct Link to Audio  Links to our Show Give us a review on Apple Podcasts! CLICK HERE we would really appreciate it! Click this link Buy me a Coffee to support the show we would really appreciate it. intouchwithios.com/coffee  Another way to support the show is to become a Patreon member patreon.com/intouchwithios Website: In Touch With iOS YouTube Channel In Touch with iOS Magazine on Flipboard Facebook Page BlueSky Mastodon X Instagram Threads Spoutible Summary Topics and Links We kick off with a discussion about the Vision Pro, as we explore the newly released Vision OS 2.3 beta. While there were not many standout features noted in the update, we tease a potentially exciting future integration with HomeKit, specifically for smart vacuum support. Marty provides insights into developer notes detailing a bug fix for HealthKit authorization issues, while Patrice humorously notes that the updates seem to be more of the same, referencing online jokes about the ongoing nature of software upgrades. The conversation quickly shifts to gaming enhancements, particularly the anticipation surrounding NVIDIA's GeForce Now service coming to the Vision Pro. Ben passionately shares his excitement, mentioning how it will significantly broaden gaming capabilities through Safari integration. The hosts exchange thoughts on their gaming interests and how these new features may appeal differentially to each of them, highlighting the intersection of gaming and augmented reality. As we move into the other applications available for Vision Pro, we discuss the best options for video playback, particularly focusing on Plex and the new features recently introduced to its app. The hosts analyze the competitive landscape of video players for Vision Pro, with each providing personal experiences and opinions on usability and functionality. Patrice raises valid points about claiming one specific app holds the ‘best' title, emphasizing the variety of user needs and preferences. Next, we turn our attention to recent updates on iOS, with the release of iOS 18.2.1, which introduces bug fixes without significant feature changes. We examine the implications of this update as well as the expectations for future iOS releases, like the upcoming iOS 18.3 beta. The discussion leads to a humorous exchange about the minor changes these updates bring, with the group relaying their own experiences and observations. The episode pivots to highlight notable mentions from CES. The hosts marvel at new products, such as the Satachi Mac Mini Hub designed to ease the power button's accessibility—a point that ignites playful debate about whether this is necessary. Anchor's new charging solutions and Belkin's innovative accessories also garner attention, with the team weighing in on their utility and relevance in today's tech landscape. Finally, we wrap up the episode with a look at Apple's recent strategic moves, including the expansion of its services like Apple One and the implications of its ongoing developments in AI with Apple Intelligence. In Touch With Vision Pro this week.  Apple Seeds Second Betas of watchOS 11.3, tvOS 18.3 and visionOS 2.3 to Developers Apple Vision Pro to Support NVIDIA's 'GeForce NOW' Cloud Gaming Service via Safari The best Plex video player for Apple Vision Pro just got way better This Tim Cook habit can almost fix Vision Pro's biggest problem  Apple Releases iOS 18.2.1 With Bug Fixes What to Expect From iOS 18.2.1, iOS 18.3, and iOS 18.4 Beta this week. Apple Releases Second Betas of iOS 18.3 and iPadOS 18.3 Apple Seeds Second Public Betas of iOS 18.3, iPadOS 18.3, and macOS Sequoia 15.3 Apple Seeds Second Betas of watchOS 11.3, tvOS 18.3 and visionOS 2.3 to Developers iOS 18.3 beta 2 fixes key Calculator issue introduced last fall In Touch With Mac this week Apple Seeds Second Beta of macOS Sequoia 15.3 to Developers Satechi's New Mac Mini Hub Solves the Power Button Problem Dell mocked at its own press launch for copying Apple's naming convention Dell Copies iPhone 'Pro', 'Pro Max' Naming Strategy for New PC Lineup - MacRumors CES Anker Launches New USB-C Portable Battery and Wall Charger With Smart Displays, Plus More Accessory Deals Swippitt Debuts Phone Charging Hub With Automated Battery Swapper LG Unveils UltraFine 6K Display With Thunderbolt 5 Support This Matter-Enabled Robot Vacuum Can Pick Up Dirty Laundry - MacRumors CES 2025: Belkin Debuts New Chargers, Audio Products and Content Creation Tools - MacRumors Apple One got three recent additions you might have missed, here's what's new News Apple Stepping Up Plans to Expand News App to More Countries - MacRumors Apple Intelligence Update Will Add Clarification to Prevent Fake Headline Confusion - MacRumors Apple Says Siri Data Has Never Been Sold or Used for Marketing - MacRumors Apple Using Shazam to Predict 50 Breakthrough Music Artists This Year - MacRumors Disney merges Hulu Live TV service with Fubo, new sports bundle now imminent Announcements Macstock 9 is next summer. It's back again for 3 Days on July 11, 12, and 13th, 2025. Newsletter link here: https://mailchi.mp/0c81790aa2a8/macstock8-10132503?e=eb0c7039b1 Macstock 8 wrapped up for 2024. But you can purchase the digital pass and still see the great talks we had including Dave talking about Apple Services and more. Content is now available! .  Click here for more information: Digital Pass | Macstock Conference & Expo with discounts on previous events.  Our Host Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastadon @daveg65, and the show @intouchwithios   Our Regular Contributors Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet as well as Twitter and Instagram as @jgamet  His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at jencius@mastodon.social  https://thepodtalk.net  Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice  Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. Twitter @benroethig  Website: https://roethigtech.blogspot.com About our Guest Patrice Brend'amour loves to create podcasts, automations or software. She also enjoys working with diverse sets of people, leading them to success and making a tiny difference in the world. Which she does as VP of Development at a Healthcare Software provider. She can be found at https://the-patrice.com and her podcasts Foodie Flashback at https://foodieflashback.com as well as Retro Rewatch with Jeff at https://RetroRewatch.com

Apple has released its list of the most popular podcasts of 2024Dave and I go over the highlights from the different categories. Apple One is a bundle of Apple serives that you pay for monthly. Dave thinks that Apple is missing one service that they, and consumers, could benefit from. Be careful this holiday season, iPhone thieves are tracking deliveries of the device. Brought to you by: LinkedIn Jobs: LinkedIn Jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Did you know every week, nearly 40 million job seekers visit LinkedIn? Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/DALRYMPLE. Terms and conditions apply. Show Notes: Apple shares the most popular podcasts of 2024 Apple One is missing a key service that could really use some help Apple Devices May Learn to Ignore ‘Hey Siri' Command From TV Ads Beware Thieves Tracking iPhone Gifts This Holiday Season Shows and movies we're watching The Diplomat, Netflix “For the Record” Podcast hosted by Amy Lively Lincoln Lawyer, Netflix

Plus Has Biden Been Replaced By A Deep Fake? ▶️ Apple may charge up to $20 for AI features in Apple Intelligence, including Siri enhancements and email/image generation. These could be bundled with the $19.95 Apple One subscription to boost services revenue.

David Ginsburg of InTouch with iOS discusses his presentation at the upcoming Macstock Conference and Expo, emphasizing networking and community among Apple and tech enthusiasts. David previews his presentation on Apple services, covering Apple One, iCloud, Apple TV+, Apple Music, Apple News, Apple Arcade, Apple Card, and Apple Care, to name more than a few. He outlines Apple services from various perspectives and tease surprises for the event to engage the audience. The importance of services for Apple from the business perspective and the evolution of their offerings are also part of the discussion. Visit Macstock Conference and Expo and use Dave's discount code INTOUCHWITHIOS or the MacVoices discount code MACVOICES to save $30 on your registration fee. Show Notes: Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Macstock Series03:54 David Ginsberg's Presentation Topic: Apple Services04:46 Exploring Various Apple Services08:05 Teasing Interactive Elements of the Presentation09:20 Reflecting on the Evolution of Apple Music10:12 Discount Code for Macstock Admission13:24 Final Call to Register for Macstock13:39 Closing Remarks and Preview of Future Episodes Guests: David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @daveg65@mastodon.cloud Support:      Become a MacVoices Patron on Patreon     http://patreon.com/macvoices      Enjoy this episode? Make a one-time donation with PayPal Connect:      Web:     http://macvoices.com      Twitter:     http://www.twitter.com/chuckjoiner     http://www.twitter.com/macvoices      Mastodon:     https://mastodon.cloud/@chuckjoiner      Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/chuck.joiner      MacVoices Page on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/macvoices/      MacVoices Group on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/groups/macvoice      LinkedIn:     https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckjoiner/      Instagram:     https://www.instagram.com/chuckjoiner/ Subscribe:      Audio in iTunes     Video in iTunes      Subscribe manually via iTunes or any podcatcher:      Audio: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesrss      Video: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesvideorss

David Ginsburg of InTouch with iOS discusses his presentation at the upcoming Macstock Conference and Expo, emphasizing networking and community among Apple and tech enthusiasts. David previews his presentation on Apple services, covering Apple One, iCloud, Apple TV+, Apple Music, Apple News, Apple Arcade, Apple Card, and Apple Care, to name more than a few. He outlines Apple services from various perspectives and tease surprises for the event to engage the audience. The importance of services for Apple from the business perspective and the evolution of their offerings are also part of the discussion. Visit Macstock Conference and Expo and use Dave's discount code INTOUCHWITHIOS or the MacVoices discount code MACVOICES to save $30 on your registration fee. Show Notes: Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Macstock Series 03:54 David Ginsberg's Presentation Topic: Apple Services 04:46 Exploring Various Apple Services 08:05 Teasing Interactive Elements of the Presentation 09:20 Reflecting on the Evolution of Apple Music 10:12 Discount Code for Macstock Admission 13:24 Final Call to Register for Macstock 13:39 Closing Remarks and Preview of Future Episodes Guests: David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @daveg65@mastodon.cloud Support:      Become a MacVoices Patron on Patreon      http://patreon.com/macvoices      Enjoy this episode? Make a one-time donation with PayPal Connect:      Web:      http://macvoices.com      Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/chuckjoiner      http://www.twitter.com/macvoices      Mastodon:      https://mastodon.cloud/@chuckjoiner      Facebook:      http://www.facebook.com/chuck.joiner      MacVoices Page on Facebook:      http://www.facebook.com/macvoices/      MacVoices Group on Facebook:      http://www.facebook.com/groups/macvoice      LinkedIn:      https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckjoiner/      Instagram:      https://www.instagram.com/chuckjoiner/ Subscribe:      Audio in iTunes      Video in iTunes      Subscribe manually via iTunes or any podcatcher:      Audio: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesrss      Video: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesvideorss

Nuestras suscripciones de Apple están haciendo un agujero en nuestras carteras: nos despedimos del Apple One, y explicamos la odisea que supone cancelar una suscripción.También vamos a entrar en el mundillo de los emuladores en la App Store y otras tiendas. El emulador Dolphin no va a llegar a la App Store por problemas técnicos con el JIT, pero habrá una oleada de soporte para Dreamcast y Mega Drive, PlayStation, etc. Repasamos sobre la legalidad de todo esto y por qué Nintendo no suelta prenda con un emulador oficial.Para rematar, comentaremos que Apple está pensando en jubilar las fundas de trenzado fino (Fine Woven) de sus fundas, pero nos quedamos mientras con los accesorios retro de Elago.

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Following the recent Apple One price hike, on this week's episode of The MacRumors Show we take a closer look at Apple's subscription bundle and each of the services within it. Apple One is a bundle of Apple subscription services available at a lower overall price. The “Individual” plan includes iCloud+ (50GB), Apple TV+, Apple Music, and Apple Arcade. The “Family” plan adds 150GB of iCloud storage and the ability to share with up to five people, while the “Premier” plan adds Apple Fitness+ and Apple News+. We discuss our feelings about each of the individual services included in the bundle, looking at our personal experiences, what we like about each of them, and where they could improve. We ultimately weigh up whether Apple One is worth it and ponder what new Apple services could be on the horizon, such as Apple Books+, Apple Podcasts+, and Apple Health+. Follow us on Twitter @danbarbera and @HartleyCharlton. 

Episodio 241. La Libre interpretación de la medición del tiempo de cada persona empieza un caos mental con sorpresas que no pensé del todo porque al parecer, mis manos no son tan grandes. Si vas a continuar con tus problemas de eyección, continúa… Sobre todo en el jacuzzi. Por favor pónganse cómodos. ✅ Follow Up Jaime clona la voz de Tim Cook - https://elevenlabs.io/speech-synthesis Jorge recibe su iPhone 15 Pro Max y desencadena varios plot twists de última horahttps://www.spigen.com/products/iphone-15-series-case-classic-c1-magfit Jaime se cambia a Apple One y Apple sube los precios

The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by guest Kelly Guimonr, Jeff Gamet, and Ben Roethig. Dave was able to goto the U2 concert at the Sphere Las Vegas and gives his review of the amazing tech at the show and how the iPhone 15 Pro Max camera photo quality is. Report says that those using CarPlay tend to listen to AM/FM radio instead. Many updates to iOS including older versions with the latest 17.1 now out. Apple is raising prices on 3 services including Apple TV+ News+ alongwith the Apple One bundle. Kelly brings us a great Qi charging stand as well Jeff does the unboxing. Plus much more.  The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com 
Direct Link to Audio  Links to our Show Give us a review on Apple Podcasts! CLICK HERE we would really appreciate it! Click this link Buy me a Coffee to support the show we would really appreciate it. intouchwithios.com/coffee  Another way to support the show is to become a Patreon member patreon.com/intouchwithios Website: In Touch With iOS YouTube Channel In Touch with iOS Magazine on Flipboard Facebook Page Mastadon Twitter Instagram Spoutible News Apple Announces October Event for Macs: 'Scary Fast' and add Ben he  wrote and article on this. https://roethigtech.blogspot.com/2023/10/apple-announced-its-scary-fast-event.html Apple Pay Later Officially Launches in U.S. Following Early Access Period Apple Stores Begin Same-Unit iPhone 15 Repairs as Parts Now Available Topics Older iOS version updates. Apple releases iOS 16.7.2 and iOS 15.8 security updates to patch old hardware About the security content of iOS 15.8 and iPadOS 15.8  About the security content of iOS 16.7.2 and iPadOS 16.7.2  Beta this week.iOS 17.2 Beta 1 was released.  Apple Seeds First Betas of iOS 17.2 and iPadOS 17.2 to Developers Everything New in iOS 17.2 Beta 1: Journal App, Translate Action, iMessage Sticker Reactions and More iOS 17.2 Beta Introduces Journal App iMessage Contact Key Verification Added in iOS 17.2 and macOS Sonoma 14.2 iOS 17.2 Beta Adds Translate Option for Action Button Apple Seeds First Beta of watchOS 10.2 to Developers Apple Seeds First Beta of tvOS 17.2 to Developers iOS 17.1 was released to all.  iOS 17.1 Features: What's New in iOS 17.1  About the security content of iOS 17.1 and iPadOS 17.1 Apple Releases iOS 17.1 and iPadOS 17.1 With AirDrop Over Internet, Music Favorites Options and More  Apple Brings Enhance Dialogue to Original HomePod and HomePod mini With 17.1 Update  Apple Releases tvOS 17.1 watchOS 10.1 Fixes Apple Watch Weather Complication Bug  Everything You Can Do With the Double Tap Gesture on Apple Watch Apple is raising the prices on all its services. Apple TV+, Arcade, and News+ subscription price increases from today are you going to still pay the increased price? Upset With Apple's Price Increases? Here's How to Cancel Your Apple TV+ or Apple One Subscription  Apple TV+: $6.99 per month → $9.99 per month Apple Arcade: $4.99 per month → $6.99 per month Apple News+: $9.99 per month → $12.99 per month Prices for the Apple One bundles that include these services are also increasing as a result: Individual: $16.95 per month → $19.95 per month Family: $22.95 per month → $25.95 per month Premier: $32.95 per month → $37.95 per month CarPlay is a great way to listen and navigate. With all the media thats available out there People with CarPlay are mostly just listening to AM/FM radio We discuss this further.  Dave attended the U2 concert at the Sphere Las Vegas. He used his iPhone 15 Pro Max and reviews the show and experience using the camera.  Link to photo examples: https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjB19Ye Kelly has an amazing item pick https://amzn.to/3tGPN2Y  MURCIA 2 in 1 Magnetic Wireless Charger, Folding Dual Fast Magnetic Wireless Charging Station Stand Announcements Macstock 7 2023 Digital Pass is now available. Relive the conference as you can Purchase a virtual pass to see the talks that many of our regular guests and contributors did including Dave, Brittany, Chuck, and Jeff. https://macstockconferenceandexpo.com  Our Host Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastadon @daveg65,  Twitter @daveg65.and the show @intouchwithios   Our Regular Contributors Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet as well as Twitter and Instagram as @jgamet  His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice  Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. Twitter @benroethig  Website: https://roethigtech.blogspot.com About our Guest Kelly Guimont is a podcaster and friend of the Rebel Alliance. She appears on The Incomparable network as well as hosts I Want My M(CU) TV. you can find her on Mastodon and Instagram @verso

En el programa de esta semana hablamos sobre lo más destacado del Xbox Partner Preview de Microsoft, el nuevo evento de Apple de la semana que viene, la subida de precio de Apple TV+, Apple One y Apple Arcade, la serie de Fallout que estrenará Amazon y los 20 años de Call of Duty, entre otras cosas. Más info: https://www.dekazeta.net Twitter: https://twitter.com/DekazetaES Mastodon: https://masto.es/@dekazeta Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dekuwa/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dekuwa/ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/dekuwa.bsky.social Grupo de Telegram: https://bit.ly/telegram-dekazeta

Next week's “Scary Fast” event came out of nowhere, a total surprise! And now we know... Apple's preparing a BARRAGE of new Macs. Get your wallets ready — you're going to like what's coming next! This episode supported by: Notion combines your notes, documents, and task or project management into one space that's simple and beautifully designed, with the power of AI built right inside. Try Notion AI for free when you go to notion.com/cultcast. Easily create a beautiful website all by yourself, at Squarespace.com/cultcast. Use offer code CultCast at checkout to get 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Cult of Mac's watch store is full of beautiful straps that cost way less than Apple's. See the full curated collection at store.cultofmac.com CultCloth will keep your Mac Studio, Studio Display, iPhone 15 Pro, guitars, glasses and lenses sparkling clean! For a limited time use code CULTCAST at checkout to score a two free CarryCloths with any order $20+ at CultCloth.co This week‘s stories: Apple plans ‘Scary Fast' event for Halloween eve It's official, a second Apple product-release event of autumn takes place the evening before Halloween — Monday, October 30 at 5 p.m. PT. Most folks expect some new Macs to shamble forth. Apple drops big hint October event will be Mac focused Apple invited the world to a product-launch event on October 30. And the invitation strongly suggests that new Macs will be on the agenda. Mark Gurman's tweets: “Apple's iMacs and MacBook Pros are in extremely short supply” “Apple has been testing M3 Max and M3 Pro 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros” “Apple has been planning an M3 iMac for a while […] No other major changes other than the chip” “Inventory of existing high-end 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros — as well as the all-in-one iMac desktop — has dwindled at Apple stores as well as retailers” Monday's ‘Scary Fast' Macs could sport M3 chips after all After Apple invited the world to its Scary Fast product event Monday, speculation turned more seriously to the idea that newly announced Macs might sport faster new M3 chips rather than versions of the current M2 series chips. MacRumors: OLED iPad and MacBook Rumored to Feature Specialized Display Materials Apple has apparently collaborated with LG Display to integrate new OLED material sets in some of its future devices, including forthcoming iPad Pro and MacBook models. AirPods 4 could deliver active noise cancellation AirPods 2 and AirPods 3 will get the axe in 2024 to be replaced with a fourth generation that will come in two versions, according to an unconfirmed report from Bloomberg‘s Mark Gurman. One AirPods 4 model will offer ANC and have a charging case that supports the Find My app. A cheaper version will not have either feature. Apple raises rates for Apple TV+ and other services by up to 40% The cost of watching Apple TV+ series and movies just went up 40%. […] The price for Apple Arcade, Apple News+ and Apple One also increased. But the cost of other services, like Apple Music, remains the same. Extra Ordinary: The CultCast ‘Scary Fast' Predictions For (probably) the last time this year, Erfon, Lewis and I will be putting down our predictions for a surprise event on Monday.

Apple sent invites to its 'Scary Fast' Mac event, likely to feature an updated iMac and possibly M3 chips, we take a deep-dive into iOS 17.1's new features, double tap is now in watchOS 10.1, and discuss the impact of Apple services recent price hike.Contact our hosts@stephenrobles on Threads@stephenrobles on TwitterStephen on Mastodon@hillithreads on Threads@Hillitech on TwitterWes on MastodonSponsored by:Magic Lasso Adblock: Block ads, trackers and annoyances on your iPhone, iPad and Mac. Get 1 month free access to Pro features today. Visit: magiclasso.co/appleinsider to learn more.Notion: Try out the incredible power of Notion AI today! For a limited time, try Notion AI for free when you visit: notion.com/appleinsiderLinks from the showM3 Mac lineup could launch on November 8M3 iMac to be launched at Scary Fast event, says rumorNew MacBook Pro box shown in claimed photo leakApple plans major overhaul for AirPods in coming yearsHands on with all the new features in iOS 17.1Apple releases update for watchOS 10.1Amazon now lets you log in with Apple's PasskeysApple hikes Apple One cost by up to $5 as most services prices riseSupport the showSupport the show on Patreon or Apple Podcasts to get ad-free episodes every week, access to our private Discord channel, and early release of the show! We would also appreciate a 5-star rating and review in Apple PodcastsMore AppleInsider podcastsTune in to our HomeKit Insider podcast covering the latest news, products, apps and everything HomeKit related. Subscribe in Apple Podcasts, Overcast, or just search for HomeKit Insider wherever you get your podcasts.Subscribe and listen to our AppleInsider Daily podcast for the latest Apple news Monday through Friday. You can find it on Apple Podcasts, Overcast, or anywhere you listen to podcasts.Podcast artwork from Basic Apple Guy. Download the free wallpaper pack here.Those interested in sponsoring the show can reach out to us at: steve@appleinsider.com (00:00) - Intro (00:52) - Scary Fast Event (17:53) - iOS 17.1 (24:06) - Sponsor: Magic Lasso (26:04) - Sponsor: Notion (28:08) - Internet Speeds (32:34) - Sonos + Ethernet (39:30) - watchOS 10.1 (42:41) - iCloud Passwords (48:35) - Apple Services Pricing ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

En este episodio hablamos de la reciente subida de precios en los servicios de Apple y analizamos cómo estas subidas impactan en la percepción del usuario y comparativamente en el mercado frente a competidores como Spotify. También, discutimos la estrategia de Apple de fomentar la suscripción a Apple One, haciendo un paralelismo con la paquetización de servicios en operadoras de telecomunicaciones, y cómo esto puede influir en la lealtad del cliente y la retención de suscriptores. Loop Infinito es un podcast de Applesfera, presentado por Javier Lacort y editado por Alberto de la Torre. Contacta con el autor en Twitter (@jlacort) o por correo (lacort@xataka.com). Gracias por escuchar este podcast.

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On this week's episode of The Mac & Forth Show, join Alan, Dean, Steve, and Karl as they delve into the latest Apple updates. Apple is teasing a "scary fast" Mac announcement set for October 30th. The company has also rolled out updates for iOS 17.1 and iPadOS 17.1. In subscription news, Apple One bundles are seeing price increases across TV, Arcade, and News+. On the health tech front, Apple Watch is making strides in identifying Parkinson's disease. For HomeKit enthusiasts, Matter 1.2 now supports robot vacuums and fridges. Lastly, a new survey reveals that a significant number of teens are comfortable with parents tracking their location for safety reasons. All this, and slightly more on this week's episode. CONTACT THE SHOW: We really would appreciate it if you could take a few moments and submit a review on iTunes. We won't ply you with adverts, just a little review is all we ask…go on, you know you want to really, don't ya? The Mac & Forth show Patreon Page. This Month's Wonderful 'The One with the Shout Out' Funders: Teresa Hummel, Matt Barton, Ron Poyotte, Gordon Jackson, Paul Beattie, Jane, Alan, Frank Jacobsen, Keith Yarbrough, David Dean, Barry Gentleman, Chris Fields, Allister Jenks and Zareef Saadat. Also, thank you to all our contributors for other donations. Your support is always greatly appreciated.  Or help via PayPal.   Subscribe to us on:  iTunes Overcast Pocketcast TuneIn Radio   Or feel free to join our Discord   Contact us via X, or follow us on Instagram or join our Facebook group. or like our Facebook page. or view our Website or YouTube   Please visit our Merchandise Store   Theme Music: Russ Clewett

Apple is finally planning to kill off iTunes on Windows, Amazon now offers passkeys for logins, and Google Chrome will allow users to hide their IP addresses; just like Apple's iCloud Private Relay. Show Notes: French authority leaks iOS 17.1 launch date: “by October 24 at the latest” “Scary Fast” Apple Event on October 30 (Twitter link to thoughts by Mark Gurman and Ming-Chi Kuo on what will be presented next week) Apple Is Finally Killing Off iTunes – for Real This Time Apple Releases iTunes for Windows Update With Option to Listen to Podcasts and Audiobooks Apple hikes Apple One cost by up to $5 as most services prices rise Hacker leaks 4.1 million additional 23andMe genetic data profiles Amazon now lets you log in with Apple's Passkeys 1Password detects “suspicious activity” in its internal Okta account Okta says hackers breached its support system and viewed customer files Fake KeePass site uses Google Ads and Punycode to push malware Firesheep is 13 years old Google Chrome's new "IP Protection" will hide users' IP addresses Intego Mac Premium Bundle X9 is the ultimate protection and utility suite for your Mac. Download a free trial now at intego.com, and use this link for a special discount when you're ready to buy.

Contact your host with questions, suggestions, or requests about sponsoring the AppleInsider Daily:charles_martin@appleinsider.com (00:00) - 01 - Intro (00:13) - 02 - iOS & iPadOS 17.1 (00:52) - 03 - watchOS 10.1 (01:09) - 04 - macOS Sonoma 14.1 (01:39) - 05 - TVos and HomePod 17.1 also (02:02) - 06 - Bug fixes and security updates (02:21) - 07 - $ervices price hike (03:18) - 08 - "Scary Fast" predictions (04:16) - 09 - New AirPods coming next xmas (04:55) - 10 - MacBook redesign in 2025? (05:16) - 11 - Apple to expand self-repair program (05:54) - 12 - OTN: Google sure looks guilty (06:31) - 13 - Detecting Parkinson's (07:26) - 14 - Outro Links from the showApple releases updates for iOS 17.1, iPadOS 17.1Apple's watchOS 10.1 has arrived with double-tapApple updates macOS Sonoma to 14.1tvOS 17.1 & HomePod Software 17.1 arrive with bug fixes and performance improvementsApple patched several security vulnerabilities in iOS 17.1 and the restApple hikes Apple One cost by up to $5 as most services prices riseNew rumor suggests 'Scary Fast' Macs could launch on November 8M3 iMac will look about the same as it does now, says leakerApple plans major overhaul for AirPods line in 2024 and 2025MacBook Pro may get full redesign in 2025, says Ming-Chi KuoApple will open its repair programs up more, very soonGoogle did what it could to stifle Apple's search efforts, show court documentsApple Watch making 'unmistakeable progress' in identifying Parkinson's diseaseSubscribe to the AppleInsider podcast on: Apple Podcasts Overcast Pocket Casts Spotify Subscribe to the HomeKit Insider podcast on:•  Apple Podcasts•  Overcast•  Pocket Casts•  Spotify

Soutenez-nous surpatreon.com/iweek! Voici l'épisode 487 de "la quotidienne iWeek" en ce jeudi 26 octobre 2023 ! Abonnez-vous : c'est gratuit ! iOS 17.1, watchOS 10.1 et prix en hausse chez Apple aussi… Présentation : Fabrice Neuman & Gilles Dounès. Production : OUATCH Audio. Tags : iOS 17.1 ; watchOS 10.1 ; AirPods 4 ; Prix en hausse ; X en visioconférence Bonne découverte de "la quotidienne iWeek" si vous nous écoutez pour la première fois, parlez de nous autour de vous, retweetez-nous (@iweeknews), bonne journée, bonne écoute et à demain ! Benjamin VINCENT et la team #iweekLQI

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Listen to a recap of the top stories of the day from 9to5Mac. 9to5Mac Daily is available on iTunes and Apple's Podcasts app, Stitcher, TuneIn, Google Play, or through our dedicated RSS feed for Overcast and other podcast players. Connect with us in the official 9to5Mac Discord server with forums, chatrooms, and more! New episodes of 9to5Mac Daily are recorded every weekday. Subscribe to our podcast in Apple Podcast or your favorite podcast player to guarantee new episodes are delivered as soon as they're available. Stories discussed in this episode: Apple One bundle, TV+, Arcade and News+ are all getting more expensive Apple announces special event for October 30: 'Scary fast' Report: Apple planning revamped TV app, will discontinue dedicated iTunes movie and TV show apps What to expect from Apple's unexpected 'Scary Fast' evening Mac event Follow Chance: Threads: @ChanceHMiller Twitter: @ChanceHMiller Mastodon: @chancehmiller@mastodon.social Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Overcast RSS Spotify TuneIn Google Podcasts Catch up on 9to5Mac Daily episodes! Don't miss out on our other daily podcasts: Quick Charge 9to5Toys Daily The Buzz Share your thoughts! Drop us a line at happyhour@9to5mac.com. You can also rate us in Apple Podcasts or recommend us in Overcast to help more people discover the show. Also, connect with us in the official 9to5Mac Discord server with forums, chatrooms, and more!

- Unheimlich schnell: Was erwartet uns auf Apples Oktober-Event? - watchOS 10.1 ist da: Doppeltipp-Geste für die Apple Watch - Update-Mittwoch: iOS 17.1, macOS Sonoma 14.1 und Co. - Preiserhöhung: Apple erhöht Entgelt für TV+, Arcade und Co. - Kaputt gefahren: Sorgt BMW-Ladeschale für Probleme mit dem iPhone 15? - Hochleistungsverbindung: Apples neuer Remote-Desktop-Modus - Umfrage der Woche - Zuschriften unserer Hörer === Anzeige / Sponsorenhinweis === Exklusiv! Schnapp dir den NordVPN-Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/apfelfunk Jetzt risikofrei testen mit der 30-Tage-Geld-zurück-Garantie! === Anzeige / Sponsorenhinweis Ende === Links zur Sendung: - Apple Events: Übertragung des Oktober-Events - https://www.apple.com/apple-events/ - Apple Newsroom: Apple Watch Doppeltipp Geste ab sofort mit watchOS 10.1 verfügbar - https://www.apple.com/de/newsroom/2023/10/apple-watch-double-tap-gesture-now-available-with-watchos-10-1/ - Mac & i: Apple erhöht Preise bei TV+, Arcade und Apple One - https://www.heise.de/news/Inhalteangebote-Apple-erhoeht-Preise-bei-TV-Arcade-und-Apple-One-9344155.html - Mac & i: BMW warnt vor eigener Drahtlos-Ladeschale - https://www.heise.de/news/iPhone-15-NFC-Chip-defekt-BMW-warnt-vor-eigener-Drahtlos-Ladeschale-9341118.html - Mac & i: Apple Remote Desktop bereit für High-Performance-Modus - https://www.heise.de/news/Apple-Remote-Desktop-Bereit-fuer-High-Performance-Modus-9342257.html Kapitelmarken: (00:00:00) Begrüßung (00:18:05) Werbung (00:20:10) Begrüßung (00:22:47) Themen (00:24:13) Unheimlich schnell: Was erwartet uns auf Apples Oktober-Event? (00:46:01) watchOS 10.1 ist da: Doppeltipp-Geste für die Apple Watch (00:56:08) Update-Mittwoch: iOS 17.1, macOS Sonoma 14.1 und Co. (01:00:18) Preiserhöhung: Apple erhöht Entgelt für TV+, Arcade und Co. (01:11:31) Kaputt gefahren: Sorgt BMW-Ladeschale für Probleme mit dem iPhone 15? (01:15:31) Hochleistungsverbindung: Apples neuer Remote-Desktop-Modus (01:18:55) Umfrage der Woche (01:22:25) Zuschriften unserer Hörer

Por fin llegan las actualizaciones de iOS 17.1 con algunas novedades interesantes, y de macOS Sonoma 14.1 con otras que no son para tanto. Y también llegan nuevos precios para los servicios AppleTV+, Arcade y News+. Me pueden contactar en: https://ernestoacosta.me/contacto.html Todos los medios donde publico contenido los encuentras en: https://ernestoacosta.me/

This week the boys continue to fire up the gravy and discuss the fantasy football happenings and underated picks you could make in your draft. The fellas also discuss the dos and do nots of your draft including when to pick people and when you should have your draft.

Will Page returns to the show for a “state of the industry” episode. In last year's appearance he correctly called out the slowdown in streaming subscriptions, bubbles in web3, and more.Will believes the value of copyrighted music could hit $45 billion annually when the 2022 numbers are calculated — up $5 billion from 2021, which is already an all-time high for the industry.  Another massive shift is glocalisation”: the trend of local music dominating the domestic charts, as opposed to Western artists. This phenomenon isn't just being felt in music, but across every industry, from film to education.We covered both these trends, plus many more. Here's all our talking points: 1:33 Why the music industry is actually worth $40+ billion annually7:03 Physical music sales on the up and up10:47 How publisher and labels split up copyright value16:59 The rise of “glocalisation” will impact every industry34:39 DSP carnivores vs. herbivores 40:23 Why video vs. music streaming isn't a perfect comparison 46:31 Music as a premium offering in the marketplace 51:38 How to improve streaming royalties  1:06:05 AI music benefits that goes overlooked 1:10:07 Will's latest mix pays homage to Carole KingGlocalisation report: https://www.lse.ac.uk/european-institute/Assets/Documents/LEQS-Discussion-Papers/EIQPaper182.pdfWill Page's 2023 Believe in Humanity:https://www.mixcloud.com/willpagesnc/2023-believe-in-humanity/Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | SoundCloud | Stitcher | Overcast | Amazon | Google Podcasts | Pocket Casts | RSSHost: Dan Runcie, @RuncieDan, trapital.coGuest: Will Page, @willpageauthorThis episode is sponsored by DICE. Learn more about why artists, venues, and promoters love to partner with DICE for their ticketing needs. Visit dice.fmTrapital is home for the business of hip-hop. Gain the latest insights from hip-hop's biggest players by reading Trapital's free weekly memo. TRANSCRIPT[00:00:00] Will Page: I put so much emotional time and effort into making these mixes happen and going out for free.They get your DJ slots, but more importantly, it goes back to what makes me wanna work in music, which was a lyric from Mike G and the Jungle Brothers from that famous album done by the forties of Nature, where he said, it's about getting the music across. It's about getting the message across. It's about getting it across without crossing over.How can I get art across an audience without delegating its integrity? And it's such an honor to have this mixed drop in this Friday I mean, that's, made my year and we're not even into June yet.[00:00:30] Dan Runcie Intro: Hey, welcome to the Trapital Podcast. I'm your host and the founder of Trapital, Dan Runcie. This podcast is your place to gain insights from executives in music, media, entertainment, and more who are taking hip hop culture to the next level.[00:00:56] Dan Runcie Guest Intro: Today's episode is all about the state of the music industry, and we're joined by the One and Only, Will Page. He is a fellow at the London School of Economics. He's an author of Tarzan Economics and Pivot, and he is the former chief economist at Spotify. Will's second time on the podcast. Now, the first time we talked all about the future of streaming and where things are going in music, and we picked that conversation, backed up.We talked about a bunch of trends including the glocalisation of music, which is from a new report that Will had recently put out. We also talked about why he values the music industry to be close to a 40 billion industry, which is much higher than a lot of the reports about recorded music itself.And we also talk about a bunch of the topics that are happening right now, whether it's ai, how streaming should be priced, the dynamic between record labels and streaming services, and a whole lot more love. This conversation will always brings it with these conversations, so I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Here's our chat.[00:02:00] Dan Runcie: All right, today we have the one and only Will Page with us who is recording from a beautiful location. I don't know if you're listening to the pod you can't see, but will tell us where you are right now.[00:02:09] Will Page: So great to be back like a boomerang on Trapital. Dan, and I'm coming to you from the Platoon Studios. Part of the Apple Company Platoon is our label services company, which is owned by Apple. They're doing great stuff with the artists like Amapiano music from South Africa. And the best place I can describe to you here, it's like a Tardus.Have you've ever seen Dr. Who? There's a tiny door in this tall yard music complex in North London just behind Kings Cross. When you enter that tiny door, you enter this maze of the well class spatial audio recording studios of Apple. And it's an honor they've given me this location to come to Trapital today.[00:02:41] Dan Runcie: Well we're gonna make the best of it here and it's always great to have you on, cuz Last year, last year's episode felt like a state of the industry episode, and that's where I wanna start things off this year with this episode.A couple months ago, you put out your post in your Tarzan economics where you said that this industry is not a 2020 5 billion industry, the way others say. Mm-hmm. You say, no, this is almost a 40 billion industry. So let's break it down. How did you arrive there and what's the backstory?[00:03:12] Will Page: I get goosebumps when you say that you think like 10 years ago we were talking about a 14 billion business and now it's a 40, you know, skews a slurred Scottish pronunciation, but let's just be clear from one four to four zero, how did that happen?Well the origins of that work, and you've been a great champion of it, Dan, is for me to go into a cave around about October, November and calculate the global value of copyright and copyright is not just what the record labels publish, that famous IFPIGMR report that everyone refers to, but it's what collecting studies like ask F and BMI collect what publishers generates through direct licensing.You have to add A plus B plus C labels, plus collecting societies plus publishers together. Then the complex part, ripping out the double counting and doing all the add-backs, and you get to this figure of 39.6 billion, which as you say, you round it up, it begins with a four. And I think there's a few things that we can kind of get into on this front.I think firstly we should discuss the figure. I'll you a few insights there. Secondly, I think we should discuss the division. And then thirdly, I want to cover the physical aspect as well. So if you think about the figure, we've got 39.6 billion. We know it's growing. I think what's gonna be interesting when I go back into that cave later this year to redo that number, it's gonna be a lot bigger.Dan, I'll see it here on Trapital First. I think a 40 billion business in 2021 is gonna be closer to a 45 billion business in 2022. And one of the reasons why it's not labels and streaming, it's a combination of publishers are reporting record collections, essentially they're playing catch up with labels, booking deals that perhaps labels booked a year earlier.And collecting studies are gonna get back to normal after all the damage of the pandemic. And when you drive those factors in where you have a much bigger business than we had before. So for the people listening to your podcast who are investing in copyright, this party's got a waiter run. You know, don't jump off the train yet cause this thing is growing[00:05:18] Dan Runcie: And the piece I want to talk about there is the publishing side of this. If you look at the breakdown of the numbers you have, the publishing is nearly, publishing plus is nearly 13 billion itself. The major record labels own most of the largest publishers right now. Why isn't this number just automatically included? Wouldn't it be in everyone's advantage to include the fact that yes, Universal Music Group and Universal Music Publishing Group are together, part of the entity that make this, whether it's them, it's Warner Chapel, it's others. Why isn't this just the top line number that's shared in all of the other reports?[00:05:56] Will Page: It would be nice if it was, and indeed, I think the publishing industry around about 2001 used to do this. They haven't done it since. But it's like spaghetti. It's the best way I can describe it. I mean, how do you measure publisher income? You know, is it gross receipts by the publisher? Is it the publisher plus the collecting Saudi? That is money that went straight to the songwriter and didn't touch the publisher. So what the publisher holds onto what we call an industry, a net publisher, shares all these weird ways of measuring this industry that we have to be clear on.And it's, not easy. but I think what we do in the report is we try and make it bite size. We try and make it digestible to work out how much of that publisher's business came through, CMOs, the S gaps and BMIs this X over here PS music and how much do they bring in directly? And that allows you to understand a couple of things.Firstly, how do they compare vi to vis labels in terms of their overall income? And secondly, how do they compare when they go out to market directly, let's say putting a sync and a TV commercial or movie versus generating money through collective licensing that is radio or TV via ASCAP or bmr. So you get an interpretation of how these publishers are making those numbers work as well.[00:07:03] Dan Runcie: That makes sense. And then when we are able to break it down, we see a few numbers that roll up into it. So from a high level, at least what you shared from 2021, we have that 25.8 billion number from the recorded side. So that does fall in line with what we see from what the IPIs and others share. 10 billion Sure.From the publishing. And then you do have, the next 3.5 and then a little sliver there for royalty free and for the publishers' direct revenue that doesn't come from the songwriters. The next piece though, within the elements of how all of the revenue flows into that. We've talked a lot about streaming and we've talked, we'll get into streaming in a little bit, but I wanna talk about the physical side cause that was the second piece that you mentioned.We've all talked about vinyl, but it's not just vinyl. So could you talk a bit about where the trends are right now with physical sales and why this is such a huge factor for this number?[00:07:56] Will Page: Who would've thought on a Trapital podcast in May, 2023. We'll be talking about physical as a second topic on the agenda, but it's worth it. I mean, it's not a rounding era anymore. It's not chump change. in America, physical revenues largely vinyl outpaced the growth of streaming for the second year straight. It's not as big as streaming, but it's growing faster and it has been growing faster for two years now. That's crazy. Here in the uk the value of physical revenues to the UK music industry has overtaken the value of physical to Germany.Quick bit of history. For years, decades, Germans used to buy CDs. that's fallen off a cliff. They've given up on CDs. Whereas over here in Britain, we've all started buying vinyl again. So the value of vinyl in Britain is worth more than the value of CDs to Germans, that type of stuff you didn't expect to see.And if you go out to Asia, you see the CD market still strong. You've still got people who buy more than one copy of the same cd, of the same band. Don't ask me to explain the rationale for that, but it happens and it moves numbers. But after all this, when the dust settles, I mean a couple of observations, all the data to me is suggesting that 55, 60% of vinyl buyers don't actually own a record player.So I think it was Peter Drucker who said, the seller really knows what they're selling, and I don't think you're selling intellectual property or music cop right here. What we're actually selling is merchandise, you know, Taylor Swift, I got an email from Taylor Swift team saying they've got a marble blue vinyl coming out this week.Now we're talking about vinyl in the same way we used to talk about stone wash jeans, marble blue. This is like the fourth version of the same 11 songs priced at 29 99. Let's just figure that out for a second. I'm willing to give you 10 bucks a month to, access a hundred million songs on streaming services, but I'm also, it's the same person.I'm also willing to give you 30 bucks to buy just 10 of them. This is expensive music and I might not even be listening to it cause I don't even have a record player.[00:09:55] Dan Runcie: This is the fascinating piece about how we're calculating this stuff because the vinyl sales and all of that has been reported widely as a great boom to the industry and it has been.We've seen the numbers and in a lot of ways it brings people back to the era of being able to sell the hard copy of the thing itself, but it's much closer to selling a t-shirt or selling a sweatshirt or selling some type of concert merchant. It actually is the actual physical medium itself. So it'll be fascinating to see how that continues to evolve, how that embraces as well. On your side though, as a personal listener, do you buy any vinyls yourself that you don't listen to, that you just keep on display or?[00:10:34] Will Page: It's like your shoe collection, isn't it? Yes, right. Is the answer to that. But no, I mean, I will say that I got 3000 fi funk records in the house and they're all in alphabetical chronological order.So if they haven't been listened to, at least I know where to find them.[00:10:48] Dan Runcie: That's fair. That makes sense. So let's talk about the third piece of this, and that's the division of this. So you have the B2C side and you have the B2B side. Can we dig into that?[00:10:59] Will Page: Sure. this is, I think the backdrop for a lot more of the sort of thorny conversations happening in the music industry is now, you may have heard that in the UK we've had a three year long government inquiry into our business.We had the regulator turn over the coals, and so there's a lot of interest in how you split up this 40 billion dollar piece of pie. who gets what? And the division I'm gonna talk about here is labels an artist on one side. Songwriters and publishers on the other side as it currently stands, I would keep it simple and say two thirds of that 40 billion dollars goes to the record label and the artist, one third goes to the publisher and the songwriter.Now, when I first did this exercise back in 2014, it was pretty much 50 50, and when you see things which are not 50 50 in life, you're entitled to say, is that fair? Is it fair that when a streaming service pays a record label a dollar, it pays the publisher and the songwriter around 29 cents? If you're a publisher, a songwriter, you might say, that's unfair, cuz I'm getting less than them.I have preferences, issues, and I have any issues with this division. Well, let's flip it around. If you look at how B2B world works, licensing at the wholesale level, let's say you're licensing the bbc, for example, if your song's played on the bbc, you're gonna get 150 pounds for a play. 90 pounds goes to the songwriter and the publisher, 60 pounds goes to the artist and a record label.Now, is that fair? Why does the publisher win in the B2B market? By the record, label wins in the B2C market. And the one, the lesson I want to give your listeners is one from economics, and it's rarely taught university these days, but back in 1938, 1939, in a small Polish town called la. Now part of the Ukraine, ironically, free Polish mathematicians sat in a place called a Scottish Cafe, ironic for me, and invented a concept called Fair Division.And the question they posed was, let's imagine there's a cake and there's two people looking at that cake getting hungry. There's Dan Runcie over in the Bay Area and there's Will page back in Edinburgh. What's the best way to divide that cake up? And the conclusion they came up with is you give Will page, the knife.Aha, I've got the power to cut the cake. But you give Dan Runcie the right to choose which half. Damn, I've gotta make that cut really even otherwise, Dan's gonna pick the bigger half and I'll lose out. And this divider two model gave birth to the subject of fair Division and it simply asked, what makes a fair division fairer?How can I solve a preference? How can I solve for envy? I want that slice, not that slice. I'm unhappy cause Dan got that slice and not that slice. There's a whole bunch of maths in this. We had a third person that gets more complex. But I just wanna sow that seed for your listeners, which is when we ask questions like, why is it the label gets a dollar and the publisher gets 29 cents?There's gotta be some rationale why you know who bets first? Is it the label that bets first or the publisher who commits most? Is it label that commits most marketing spend or the publisher? These types of questions do with risk, often help answer questions of fair division, or to quote the famous Gangstar song, who's gonna take the weight?Somebody's gotta take a risk when you play this game, and perhaps there's a risk reward trade off, which is telling us who gets what Share of the spoils.[00:14:15] Dan Runcie: Let's unpack this a little bit because it's easy to see. May not be fair, but it's easy to see why the record labels get preference on the B2C side because as I mentioned before, the record labels have acquired a lot of the publishers, and especially in the streaming era, they were prioritizing that slice of the pie, their top line, as opposed to what essentially is the subsid subsidiary of their business, the publishing side.Why is it flipped with sync? Well, how did that dynamic end up being that way?[00:14:47] Will Page: That's an anomaly, which is actually blatantly obvious. You just don't think about it. And the way it was taught to me is anyone can record a song, but only one person can own a song. So I think, let's give an example of, I don't know, a Beach Boy song where I could ask for the original recording of that Beach Boy song to be used in the sync.Or I could get a cover band. So let's say I got a hundred thousand dollars to clear the rights of that song, and the initial split should be 50 50. If a band is willing to do a version of it for 10,000, the publisher can claim 90,000 of the budget and get the option. If the record label objects and says, well, I wish you used a master.Well, you got a price under the 10,000 to get the master in. So this kind of weird thing of bargaining power, if you ever hear. Let me scratch that again. Let me start from the top. Let me give you a quick example, Dan, to show how this works. One of my favorite sort of movies to watch when you're Bored and killing Time is The Devil's Swear, Prada great film.And then that film is a song by Seal called Crazy, incredible song, timeless. That guy has, you know, timeless hits to his name, but it's not him recording it. Now, what might have happened in that instance is the film producer's got a hundred thousand to get the song in the movie, and he's looking to negotiate how much you pay for publishing, how much you pay for label.Now the label is getting, you know, argumentative, wanting more and more, and the publisher is happy with a certain fee. Well, the film producer's got an option. Pay the publisher of the a hundred thousand, pay him 90,000, given the lion share of the deal. And then just turn the label and say, screw you. I'm gonna get a covers bant and knock me out.A decent version of it. And this happens all the time in TV films, in commercials, you'll hear covers of famous songs. And quite often what's happening there is you gotta pay the publisher the lion share of your budget and then just cough up some small chains to the covers bant to knock out a version.And then, so just a great reminder, Dan of anyone can record a song, but only one person can own the song that is the author. And that's why negotiating and bargaining power favors publishes in sync over the record labels.[00:16:59] Dan Runcie: That makes sense. And as you're saying that, I was thinking through five, six other examples of cover songs I've seen in many popular TV shows and movies.And this is exactly why?[00:17:08] Will Page: It's always car commercials. For some reason, every car commercial's got cover in a famous song. You think, remember that weird Scottish guy down Ronie Trapital? Yeah. That's what's happened. The publishers pool the rug from under the record label's feet at negotiation table.Another super important observation about the glocalisation trend, Dan, is I'm gonna take one of those 10 countries as our spotlight, Poland. Now the top 10 in Polands or Polish, the top 20 in Poland, or Polish. In fact, if you go to the top 40, it's pretty much all Polish bands performing in Polish, and you could say that's localization.But stop the bus. Most of those acts are performing hip hop, which is by itself a US genre. So perhaps we've got glocalisation of genre, but localization of language and artist. And that's a very important distinction for us to dissect. And perhaps it's for the anthropologist, the sociologist, to work out what's going on here.But it's not as straightforward as it's just local music. It's local music, but it's global genres, which is driving us forward.[00:18:08] Dan Runcie: And that's a great point for the people that work at record labels and other companies making decisions too, because there's been so much talk about hip hop's decline. But so much of that is focused on how this music is categorized and a lot of it's categorized solely on.What is considered American hip hop. But if you look at the rise of music in Latin America, which has been one of the fastest growing regions in the world, most of that music is hip hop. Bad Bunny considers himself a hip hop artist. You just brought up this example of Polish hip hop being one of the most popular genres there.So when we think about. How different genres get categorized, which genres get funding. Let's remember that key piece because hip hop is this culture and it's global, and that's gonna continue. So let's make sure that we are not taking away from a genre that is really one of the most impactful and still puts up numbers if we're categorizing it in the right way.[00:19:04] Will Page: Damn straight. I mean, I think genres are often like a square peg trying to fit into a round hole and in a paper published by London School of Economics, I was honored to use that line that I think I said on trap last time, which is rap is something you do. Hip hop is something you live. Rap could be the genre, hip hop could be the lifestyle.Maybe what those Polish acts getting to the top of the charts of doing is representing a lifestyle, but they're doing it in their mother tongue.[00:19:28] Dan Runcie: Well said. Agreed. Well, let's switch gears a bit. One topic that I wanna talk about, and I actually gave a talk recently, and I referenced you from this term, and its of music, was the glocalisation of music and why this is happening and what it means for Western music specifically in the us. But first, if you could define that term and explain why this is so important in music right now.[00:19:53] Will Page: Well, I'm so excited to be on Trapital talking about this because we are now officially published by London School of Economics, so I'm gonna make my mom and dad proud of me. At last Backstory, paperback of my book, guitars in Economics, retitled to Pivot. Apparently WH Smith's Travel and Hudson Travel said books with economics in their titles Don't sell an airport.So we've rebranded the whole book to Pivot and it's in airports, which is a result. that book, that paperback came out on the 6th of February and that night I was on the BBC one show and they had this great happy, clappy family friendly story. They wanted to bounce off me. They said, Hey, will, Isn't it great that the top 10 songs in Britain last year were all British ex?For the first time in 60 years, Britain got a clean sweep of the top 10 in the music charts. And I said, curb your enthusiasm because we're seeing it elsewhere. The top 10 in Germany, were all German. Top 10 in Italy, all Italian, ditto France, deto Poland. And if you go to Spain, the top 10, there were all Spanish language, but largely Latin American.So it's not just a British thing that we've seen this rise of local music on global streaming platforms. We're seeing it everywhere, cue some gulps and embarrassments live in the TV studio. But I made my point and I came out of that interview thinking. Well that stunned them. It's gonna stu more people.And I said about working on a paper called glocalisation, which with a Scottish accent, it's hard to pronounce. Let's see how you get on with it. Not localization and not glocalisation. Emerging to by definition and by practice glocalisation. I teamed up with this wonderful author, Chris Riva, who'd be a great guest on your show.He did a wonderful blog piece you may have read, called Why is There No Key Changes in Music anymore? It's a really beautiful piece of music writing and there isn't. Nobody uses key changes in the conclusion of songs. And we set out to do this academic study to explain to the world what's been happening in music and why it's relevant to everyone else.And what we saw across 10 European countries was strong evidence of local music dominating the top of the charts in these local markets on global platforms. Now history matters here. We didn't see this with local High street retailers, America, British, Canadian music dominated those charts. We still don't see it in linear broadcast models like radio and television, you know, it's still English language repertoire dominating those charts. But when it comes to global streaming, unregulated free market, global streaming, we see this phenomenal effect where local music is topping the charts. And you know, you look at what does it mean for us English language countries like ourselves?It means things get a little bit tough. It means exporting English language repertoire into Europe becomes harder and harder. Maybe I'll just close off with this quite frightening thought, which is Britain is one of only three net exporters of music in the world. The other two being your country, United States and Sweden.Thanks to a phenomenal list of Swedish songwriters and artists. And I can't think of the last time this country's broken a global superstar act since Dua Lipa in 2017. Dan, we used to knock them out one, two a year. 2017 was a long time ago, and it's been pretty dry since.[00:23:13] Dan Runcie: And that's a great point for the people that work at record labels and other companies making decisions too, because there's been so much talk about hip hop's decline. But so much of that is focused on how this music is categorized and a lot of it's categorized solely on.What is considered American hip hop. But if you look at the rise of music in Latin America, which has been one of the fastest growing regions in the world, most of that music is hip hop. Bad Bunny considers himself a hip hop artist, you just brought up this example of Polish hip hop being one of the most popular genres there.So when we think about, how different genres get categorized, which genres get funding. Let's remember that key piece because hip hop is this culture and it's global, and that's gonna continue. So let's make sure that we are not taking away from a genre that is really one of the most impactful and still puts up numbers if we're categorizing it in the right way.[00:24:07] Will Page: Damn straight. I mean, I think genres are often like a square peg trying to fit into a round hole and in a paper published by London School of Economics, I was honored to use that line that I think I said on trap last time, which is rap is something you do. Hip hop is something you live. Rap could be the genre, hip hop could be the lifestyle.Maybe what those Polish acts getting to the top of the charts of doing is representing a lifestyle, but they're doing it in their mother tongue.[00:24:32] Dan Runcie: Well said. Agreed. This is something that's been top of mind for me as well because technology in general has a way of making regions and making people in particular regions closer together than it does making the world bigger. It's like in, in a sense, technology can make the world seem bigger, but it actually makes it seem smaller, right? And I think that algorithms and bubbles that come from that are another symptom of this.But this is going to have huge implications for Western music. You mentioned it yourself. All of these markets that are used to being export markets, when they no longer have the strength to be able to have those exports, how does that then change the underlying product? How does that then change the budgets, the expectations of what you're able to make? Because if you're still trying to maintain that same top line revenue, you're still trying to maintain those airwaves you have, it's gonna cost you more money to do that, because you can't rely on the few Western superstars that you have to get, that you have to have equivalent of a superstar or at least a middle tier star in every region that you once had strong market share that you could export in.And it's gonna change cost structures. It's gonna change focus. And a lot of these expansions that we've seen of record labels, especially Western record labels, having strong footprints in different regions across the world, they're not just gonna need to have presence, they're gonna need to have strong results.And in many ways, try to rival the own companies that are in those comp, in those regions, the homegrown record labels, because every country is trying to do their own version of this and it's gonna be tight. This is one of the challenges that I think is only gonna continue to happen.[00:26:14] Will Page: You're opening up a real can of worms. I get it. Pardon to your listeners, we're getting excited here. Day of publication, first time we've been able to discuss it on air, but I know I'm onto something huge here and you've just illustrated why just a few remarks. One, some of the quotes that we have in the paper were just phenomenal. We have Apple included in the paper. We have Amazon, Steve Boom, the head of that media for Amazon in charge of not just music, but Twitch audio books, the whole thing. He's looking at all these media verticals. He makes this point where he says, as the world becomes more globalized, we become more tribal. Stop right there, as he just nailed it.What's happening here? It's The Economist can only explain so much. This is what's so deep about this topic. I wanna toss it to the anthropologist of sociologists to make sense of what I've uncovered, but it's massive. Now let's take a look at what's happening down on the street level with the record labels and the consumers. You know, the record labels are making more money and they're devolving more power to the local off seats. You know the headcount in the major labels, local off season, Germany, France, and Vietnam or wherever is doubled in the past five years. It hasn't doubled in the global headquarters. That's telling you something.If you look at how labels do their global priority list, maybe every month, here's 10 songs we want you to prioritize globally. So I had a look at how this is done, and across the year I saw maybe 8, 10, 12 artists in total, and there's 120 songs. There's not that many artists. You think about how many local artists are coming out the gate every week hitting their local labels or local streaming staff, up with ideas, with showcases and so on.Not a lot of global priority. Then you flip it and you think about the consumer, you know, they've had linear broadcast models for 70 years where you get what you're given. I'm gonna play this song at this time and you're gonna have to listen to it. FM radio, TV shows now they're empowered with choice and they don't want that anymore.They want what's familiar. What comforts them. They want their own stars performing in their own mother tongue topping those charts. So this has got way to go. Now, a couple of flips on this. Firstly, what does this mean for artists? And then I'm gonna take it out of media, but let's deal with artists.Let's imagine a huge festival in Germany. 80,000 people now festival can now sell out with just German X, no problem at all. So when the big American X or British X commanded like a million dollars a headlining fee, you wanna go play that festival. That promoter can turn around and say, sorry man, I can't generate any more money by having you on my bill.How much are you gonna pay me to get on stage? Price maker, price taker? You see what happens. And then the last thing, and there's so much more in this paper for your listeners to get to, and let's please link to it and you'll take, I'll take questions live on your blog about it as well, but. There's a great guy called Chris Deering, the father of the Sony PlayStation. Did you play the Sony PlayStation back in the day? Were you're a fan of the PlayStation.[00:29:08] Dan Runcie: Oh, yeah. PS one and PS two. Yeah. Okay.[00:29:11] Will Page: You, oh, so you, you're an OG PlayStation fella. So he's the father of the PlayStation and launching the PlayStation in the nineties and into the nineties. He offered us observation, which is when they launched a SingStar, which was karaoke challenge.In the PlayStation, he says, we always discussed why the Swedish version of SingStar was more popular in Sweden than the English version Science. Intuitive enough. Let me break it down. Gaming back then was interactive music was not, you interacted with your PlayStation, that's why you killed so much time with it. Music was just a CD and a plastic case that broke your fingernails when you tried to open it. That's how the world worked back then and gaming offered you choice. I could try and do karaoke with those huge global English language hits where I could go further down the chart and buy the Swedish version and sing along to less well known Swedish hits. And the consumer always picked the Swedish version. So as a bellwether, as a microcosm, what I think Chris Ding was teaching us was we saw this happening in gaming long before you started seeing it happen with music. 20 years ago when there was interactive content, which gaming was, music wasn't, and consumers had a choice, which gaming offered a music didn't.They went local. Today, Dan, we're dealing with music lists, A interactive, and B offers choice. And what we're seeing is local cream is rising to the top of the charts.[00:30:33] Dan Runcie: And we're seeing this across multimedia as well. We're seeing it in the film industry too. Even as recent as five, 10 years ago, you release any of the blockbuster movies that were successful in the us, almost all of them had some overseas footprint.Some of them definitely vary based on the genre, but they were always there. But now China specifically had been such a huge market for the Hollywood and Box office specifically, but now they're starting to release more of their own high ed movies and those are attracting much more audiences than our export content can one.Two, the Chinese government in general is just being very selective about what they allow and what they don't allow. And then three, with that, that's really only leaving certain fast and furious movies and Avatar. That's it. The Marvel movies are hit and missed depending on what they allow, what they don't allow, and how, and it's just crazy to see the implications that has had for Marvel Studios for everyone else in Hollywood as well.When you think about it, and we're seeing this across multimedia, I think there's a few trends here that makes me think about, one is. Population growth in general and just where those trends are and how different corporations can approach the opportunity. Because I look at Nigeria, you look at Ethiopia, these are some of the fastest growing countries in the world.And you look at the music that is rising more popular than ever, whether it's Amapiano or it's Afrobeats, that's only going to continue to grow. And that's only from a few regions in the huge continent of Africa. So when we're thinking about where success is gonna come from, where that lines up with infrastructure, people have been seeing it for years.But the reason that we're seeing the growth in Africa, the growth in Latin America, the growth in a lot of these markets is this trend of glocalisation and it's only going to increase. So if we're thinking about where we wanna invest dollars, where we wanna build infrastructure in the future, we not just being folks that live in the western world, but also elsewhere in the world, this is where things are heading.[00:32:37] Will Page: Let me come in down the middle and then throw it out to the side. So, Ralph Simon, a longtime mentor of mine, is quoted in the paper and where he's actually gonna moderate the address here at the Mad Festival here in London, which is for the marketing and advertising community here, where he says, what you've uncovered here that headwind of glocalisation is gonna affect the world of marketing and advertising this time next year.That's what will be the buzzword in their head. So if you think about, I don't know, a drinks company like Diagio, maybe they've got a globalized strategy and a globalized marketing budget. When they start seeing that you gotta go fishing where the fish are and the fish are localized, they're gonna devolve that budget and devolve that autonomy down to local offices. So the wheels of localization, this rise of local, over global, they've only just got started, if I've called it right. We're onto something way bigger than a 20 minute read LSE discussion paper. This goes deep, deep and far beyond economics. But then you mentioned as well China, I mean just one offshoot observation there, which is to look at education.If you look at the UK university system, about a third, if not more, of it is subsidized by the Chinese government and Chinese students here. Great for business, slightly dubious in its business, besties, charging one student more than another student for the same product. But that's what we do over here.And I recently, we made a fellow of Edmar University's Futures Institute, which is an honor to me, you know, gets me back home more often. Fine. And I was learning from them that. The quality of students coming from China to study here in Britain and across Europe is getting worse and worse. Why? Cuz the best students have got the best universities in China.They no longer need to travel. So there's a classic export import dilemma of, for the past 10, 15 years, universities have built a complete treasury coffer base of cash around selling higher education to the Chinese. And now the tables are turning. I don't need to send my students to you universities anymore.I'll educate them here. Thank you very much. So, like I say, this stuff is a microcosm. It's got a can of worms that can open in many different directions[00:34:39] Dan Runcie: And it's gonna touch every industry that we know of to some extent, especially as every industry watches to be global to some extent. This is going to be a big topic moving forward.Let's shift gears a bit. One of the terms that was really big for us. That came from our podcast we did last year. We talked about herbivores and we talked about carnivores, and we talked about them in relation to streaming. We haven't touched on streaming yet, and this will be our opportunity to dig down into it, but mm-hmm.For the listeners, can we revisit where that came from, what that means, and also where this is heading? What does this mean for music streaming right now as it relates to the services and competition?[00:35:24] Will Page: Well, when I first came on Trapital, that was in a small Spanish village of Cayo De Suria and I didn't think I'd come up with an expression that would go viral from a small village in Spain to be, you know, quoted from in Canada, in America.And Dan, this is quite hilarious. we have a new secretary of state of culture here in the UK. The right Honorable MP, Lucy Fraser KG, Smart as a whip. Brilliant. And when I first met her, you know what the first thing she said was, I listened to you on Trapital. I wanted to ask you about this thing you've got going called herbivores and carnivores.So right the way through to the corridors of power, this expression seems to have traveled. What are we talking about? Well, the way I framed it was for 20 years we've had these streaming services, which essentially grow without damaging anyone else. Amazon is up. Bigger subscriber numbers. Apple's got bigger subscriber numbers.YouTube and Nancy's bigger subscriber numbers. And then Spotify. Nancy's bigger subscriber numbers. Everyone's growing each other's gardens. That's fine. That's herbivores. What happens when you reach that saturation point where there's no more room to grow? The only way I can grow my business is stealing some of yours.That's carnivores. And the greatest example is simply telcos. We're all familiar with telcos. We all pay our broadband bills. How do telcos compete? Everybody in your town's got a broadband account, so the only way you can compete is by stealing someone else's business. The only way here in Britain Virgin Media can compete is by stealing some of skies.The only way that at and t competes is by stealing some of com. So that's carnival competition. Now, the key point for Trapital listeners is we don't know what this chapter is gonna read like cuz we've never had carus pronounce that word correctly. Carus behavior before. We've never seen a headline that said, Spotify's down 2 million subs and apple's up 2 million, or Amazon's up 3 million and you know, YouTube is down 3 million.We don't know what that looks like. So I think it's important for Trapital to start thinking about logical, plausible scenarios. You kick a one obvious one, which is again, a lesson from the telcos. When we do become carnivores, do we compete on price or do we compete on features? Let me wheel this back a second, you know, we'll get into pricing in more depth later. But downward competition on price tends to be how carnivores compete, and that'll be a fascinating development given that we've not seen much change in price in 22 years in counting or as we saw with Apple, they roll out spatial audio, they charge more for it, they've got a new feature, and they charge more for that feature.So do we see downward competition blood on the carpet price competition, or do we see. Upward competition based on features. I don't know which one it's gonna be. It's not for me to call it. I don't work for any of these companies. I've worked with these companies, but I don't work for any of them directly.But we have to start discussing these scenarios. How's this chapter gonna read when we start learning of net churn amongst the four horseman streaming services that's out there. It's gonna be a fascinating twist, and I'm beginning, Dan, I'm beginning to see signs of con behavior happening right now, to be honest with you.I can see switchers happening across the four, so I think we're getting there in the US and the UK. What are those signs you see? I'm just seeing that in terms of subscriber growth, it's a lot bumpier than before. Before it is just a clear trajectory. The intelligence I was getting was, everyone's up, no one needs to bother.Now I flag, you know, I signed the siren. I'm beginning to see, you know, turbulence in that subscriber growth. Someone could be down one month, up the next month. Maybe that's just a little bit of churn. The ending of a trial period, you don't know. But now for me, the smoke signals are some of those services are seeing their gross stutter.Others are growing, which means we could start having some switching. I can add to that as well. Cross usage is key here. I really hammered this home during my 10 years at Spotify, which is to start plotting grids saying, who's using your service? This person, that person, and next person now ask what other services are they using?And some data from America suggests that one in four people using Apple music are also using Spotify. And one in four people using Spotify are also using Apple Music. Cross usage confirmed. So if that was true, what do you make of that? With a public spending squeeze? With inflation, with people becoming more cost conscious in the economy with less disposable income, maybe they wanna wheel back from that and use just one, not two. And that's where we could start seeing some net churn effects taking place as well. So, you know, imagine a cross usage grid in whatever business you're working on. If your Trapital listeners and ask that question, I know who's using my stuff, what else are they using? Um, that's a really, really important question to ask to work out how this carnivore scenario is gonna play out.How are we gonna write this chapter?[00:40:23] Dan Runcie: This is interesting because it reminds me of the comparisons that people often make to video streaming and some of the dynamics there where prices have increased over the years. I know we've talked about it before to tend to a 12 years ago Netflix was cheaper than Spotify was from a monthly, US price group subscription.And now tough, tough. It's right. And now it's nearly twice the price of the current price point. That it is. The difference though, when we're talking about when you are in that carnival, when you're in that carnival market, what do you compete on? Features or price? Video streaming, you can compete on features essentially because the content is differentiated.If you want to watch Wednesday, that Netflix series is only one platform that you can watch it on. Yeah, you need to have that Netflix subscription, but in music it's different because if you wanna listen to SZA's SOS album, that's been dominating the charts. You can listen to it on any of these services.So because there are fewer and fewer limitations, at least, if your goal, main goal from a consumption perspective is to listen to the music, how do you then differentiate, which I do think can put more pressure on price, which is very interesting because there is this broader pricing debate that's happening right now about why prices should be higher.And we've seen in the past six plus months that Apple has at least raised its prices. Amazon has done the same, at least for new subscribers. Spotify has announced that it will but hasn't yet and this is part of that dynamic because on one hand you have these broader economic trends as you're calling them out, but on the other hand you do have the rights holders and others pushing on prices to increase.And then you have the dynamic between the rights holders and then the streaming services about who would then get the increased revenue that comes. So there's all of these fascinating dynamics that are intersecting with this her before shift to carnivores[00:42:23] Will Page: For sure. Let me just go around the block of those observations you offered us. All relevant, all valid and just, you know, pick off a few of them. If we go back to Netflix, I think Netflix has a, not a herbivore. I'm gonna talk about alcohol here cause it's late in the day in the UK. A gin and tonic relationship with its competitors. That is, if Dan Runcie doesn't pay for any video streaming service, and let's say Netflix gets you in and I'm the head of Disney plus, I say, well, thank you Netflix.That makes it easier for me to get Dan to pay for Disney Plus too. They compliment each other. They are genuine complimentary goods. They might compete for attention. You know who's got the best exclusive content, who's gonna renew the friends deal, whatever, you know, who's gonna get Fresh Prince of Bel Air on?That could be a switch or piece of content too, but when you step back from it, it's gin and tonic. It's not different brands of gin, that's really important technology, which is they've grown this market of video streaming. They've increased their prices and the same person's paying for 2, 3, 4 different packages.If I added up, I'm giving video streaming about 60 quid a month, and I'm giving music streaming 10 and the sixties going up and the music's staying flat. So it's bizarre what's happened in video streaming because the content is exclusive. Back to, how do music carnivores play out again? Could we see it play out in features?I listen to airport cause they've got classical and I listen to Spotify because it got discovered weekly. Is that plausible? Personally, I don't buy it, but you can sow that seed and see if it takes root, as well. I think just quick pause and Apple as well. I think two things there. They've launched Apple Classical. That's a very, very good example of differentiating a product because it's a standalone app like podcast as a standalone app. The way I look at that is you can go to the supermarket and buy all your shopping. You can get your Tropicana orange juice, you can get your bread, get your eggs, get your meat, get your fish or you could go to a specialist butcher and buy your meat there instead. Apple Classical for me is the specialist butcher as opposed to the supermarket, and they're offering both in the same ecosystem. It'd be incredible if they preload out the next iOS update and give 850 million people an Apple classical app.Imagine if they did that for Jazz, my friend. Imagine if they did that for jazz. Just if Apple's listening, repeat, do that for jazz. So there's one example. The other example from Apple is to go back to bundling. You know we talk about 9.99 a month. I chewed your ear off about this topic last time I was on your show.Just to remind your listeners, where did it come from? This price point in pound Sterling, in Euro in dollar that we still pay for on the 20th of May, 2023. It came from a Blockbuster video rental card that is when reps, he got its license on the 3rd of December, 2001. Not long after nine 11, a record label exec said if it cost nine 90 nines, rent movies from Blockbuster.That's what it should cost to rent music. And 22 years plus on, we're still there, ran over. But what does this mean for bumbling strategies? How much does Apple really charge? If I give $30 a month for Apple One, which is tv, music, gaming news, storage and fitness, all wrapped up into one price. Now, there's a famous Silicon Valley investi called James Barksdale.Dunno if you've heard of him from the Bay Area where you're based. And he had this famous quote where he said, gentlemen, there's only two ways to make money in business. Bundling and unbundling. What we've had for the past 10 years is herbivores. Unbundling. Pay for Netflix, don't pay for Comcast. Pay for Spotify. Don't pay for your CDs, fine. What we might have in the next 10 years is carnivores bundling, which is a pendulum, swings back towards convenience of the bundle and away from the individual items. So Apple, take 30 bucks a month off my bank balance. Please take 40. All I want is one direct debit. I don't care about the money, I just want the bundle.And I don't want to see 15 direct debits every month. I just wanna see one. I think that's a very plausible scenario for how the next 10 years it's gonna play out as we shift from herbivores to carnivores[00:46:31] Dan Runcie: And the bundle benefits, the companies that have the ability to do that, right? You can do that through Amazon Prime and get your video, your music, your free shipping or whatever is under that umbrella. You could do that through Apple. You mentioned all the elements under Apple one. Spotify has some element of this as well, whether it's exclusive podcasting and things like that. So you're starting to see these things happen, one thing that you mentioned though earlier, you're talking about going through the supermarket and all of the items that you could get there versus going to the specialty butcher.One of the unique aspects of the supermarket thing though, is that. You go into the supermarket, yes, you can get your high-end Tropicana, or you can get the generic store brand, but you're gonna pay more for that high-end Tropicana because you're paying for the brand, you're paying for everything else that isn't gonna necessarily be the same as the generic one.That may not necessarily be the same quality or the same taste. We're seeing this a bit in the streaming landscape now and some of the debates that were happening. You've heard the major record label executives talk about how they don't necessarily want their premium music. They see their content as HBO level and it's being in a playlist next to rain music, or it's next to your uncle that is playing some random song on the banjo and they're getting essentially the same price going to the rights holders for that song.And in the supermarket that's obviously very different, each item has its own differentiator there, or econ has its own price point there and its own cost, but that isn't necessarily the same thing in music. Of course, the cost of each of those tracks may be different, but the revenue isn't. So that's gonna be, or that already is a whole debate that's going on right now. Do you have thoughts on that?[00:48:21] Will Page: Well, you tossed top Tropicana, let me go grab that carton for a second. It's one of the best economic lessons I ever learned was visiting a supermarket in America cuz it's true to say that when you go into one of your American supermarkets, an entire aisle of that precious shelf space, it's dedicated to selling inferior brands of orange juice next to Tropicana.Just very quickly what's happening there, the undercover economist, if you want, is a bargaining power game. Tropicana knows The reason Dan Runcie pulled the car over, got the trolley, went into that supermarket is to get a staple item of Tropicana and other stuff. By the time it gets to the till, Tropicana could be $5.By the time he gets to till he spent $50. So here, subscriber acquisition cost contribution is really high. They're getting you into the mall. What you do once you're in the mall is anyone's business, but they got you in. Otherwise you would've gone to the deli across the street. So they could say to the supermarket, I'm gonna charge you $7 to sell that Tropicana for $5 in my supermarket.Supermarket knows this, they know that Tropicana's got the bargaining paris. They counter by saying, here's an entire shell space of awful brands of orange juice to curb your bargaining power to see if the consumer wants something different. Now is this Will Page taking a stupid pill and digressing down Tropicana Alley. No. Let's think about this for a second today, Dan, there's a hundred thousand songs being onboarded onto streaming services. Is there anybody what? Marching up and down Capitol Hill saying We want a hundred thousand songs. No, the floodgates have opened them. It's all this content. Two new podcasts being launched every minute.All this content, all of these alternative brands to Tropicana. But you just wanted one. And I think the record labels argument here is that one Cardinal Tropicana is worth more than everything else you're offering by its side. So we wanna rebalance the scales. Now this gets really tricky and very contentious, but what is interesting, if you wanna take a cool head on this topic, it's to learn from the collecting studies, which is not the sexiest thing to say on a Trapital podcast, but it's to look at your Scaps and your BMIs and understand how they distribute the value of money for music.Since their foundation in the 1930s, scap has never, ever treated music to have the same value. They have rules, qualifications, distribution, allocation practices, which change the value of music. And they don't have data scientists then. And to be honest, I don't think they have data scientists now, but they always have treated the value of music differently.When they were founded, they had a classical music distribution pot and a distribution pot for music that wasn't classical music. Ironically, their board was full of classical composers, and I think that's called embezzlement, but we'll leave that to the side. What we have here is a story of recognizing music as different value in the world of collecting Saudi.I call that Jurassic Park, but in the world of music streaming with all those software developers and engineers and data scientists, 22 years of 9.99 money coming in and the Prorata model, which means every song is worth the same for money going out, and that's your tension. That's your tension. How do you get off that?Tension is anyone's business. We got some ideas we can discuss. User-centric is one, autocentric is another. I've got a few ideas for my own, but I want your audience to appreciate. In straight no chaser language we call it. That's the undercurrent of what's going on here. How do you introduce Trapitalism to communism?[00:51:38] Dan Runcie: You mentioned there's artist centric, user-centric, but you mentioned some ideas you had of your own. What are those ideas?[00:51:44] Will Page: Can I bounce it off? Use my intellectual punch bag for a quick second. Yes, and I've worked 'em all. I've worked on the artist centric model. I've worked on artist growth models. That's up on YouTube. I've worked on user centric, but I'm just, I'm worried that these models, these propositions could collapse the royalty systems that these streaming services work under. The introduction of user centric or artist centric could become so complex, so burdensome, the royalty systems could break down.That's a genuine concern I have. It's not one you discuss when you talk about your aspirations and the land of milk and honey of our new streaming model that you envisage. Back in the engine room when you see how royalties are allocated and calculated and distributed out to right holders, I mean they're under stress anyway.Any more stress could snap it. So I come at this model, my proposition from the one that's least likely to break the system. I'm not saying it's the best model, but it's the least like least likely to have adverse impact on the system. And it came from my DCMS Select Committee performance in the UK Parliament, which your listeners can watch, we can give the link out, which is I said to the committee in terms of how you could change the model.What about thinking about duration? This wheel back since 1980s when B BBC radio plays, let's say Bohemian Rhapsody, it will pay for that song twice what it would pay for. You're my best friend, members of Queen wrote both songs, both released within three, four years of each other, but one lasts twice as long as another.So duration is not new. We factor in duration a lot in our music industry. We just never thought about it. If you look at Mexico, the Mexican collecting Saudi, which is so corrupt as an inside an army barracks, if you look there, they have sliding scales, duration. They factor in time, but they say the second minute is what?Less than the first. But I'm giving you more for more time just adding, decreasing scale. Germany, they have ranges in your country. America, mechanical licensing collective, the MLC in Nashville, they have overtime songs that last more than six minutes get a 1.2 multiplier. So I've been thinking about how could you introduce duration to this business?And the idea I've come up with is not to measure time. That'd be too complex, too burdensome. Every single song, measuring every second of consumption. How do you audit there? If you're an artist manager, but I wanna measure completion, then I think this is the answer. I want songs that are completed in full to receive a bonus and songs that are skipped before they end to receive a penalty.Not a huge bonus, not a huge penalty, but a tweak. A nudge that says, I value your attention. I value great songs, and you listen to these great songs and it captures my entire attention. You deserve something more. But if I skipped out after the first chorus, you deserve something less. I think that small nudge is a nudge in the right direction for this industry, and it wouldn't break the systems.So there it is. Tell me now, have I taken a stupid pill?[00:54:42] Dan Runcie: What I like about it, and I've heard other people in the industry mention this too, you're able to get something closer to what we do see in video streaming. I forget which app is specifically, but their threshold is 75%. So they acknowledge that yes, if you don't wanna watch the credits, you don't wanna listen to the closeout, that's fine.But if we at least get you for 75%, then we are gonna count that, and then that then can get used internally. That can then get used in different areas. But I think it provides everyone better data and analysis, much better data to be able to break down than. Whether or not you listen to the first 30 seconds, that's such a low threshold, but that's essentially where we are today.I think the biggest thing, regardless of what path is chosen, because as you and I both know, there's trade-offs to everyone. So instead of going through all the negative parts about it, I think it's probably more helpful to talk about it collectively, you accept the fact that there are trade-offs. You accept the fact that people are gonna try to game the system regardless of how you go about it.Because we have seen duration work elsewhere and it does get at that particular thing that we're trying to get at there is help there. And you mentioned other things such as, yes, if you're listening to the Bohemian Rhapsody, you, which I think is at least seven minutes and 15 seconds, most likely longer versus two minute song that is clearly idealized for the streaming era.There still should be maybe some slight difference there because listening to a minute and 30 seconds is very different than listening to five minute and 45 seconds to be able to hit that 75% threshold. So between that and then I've heard other topics such as which artists you start your session with should have some type of multiplier on there, and as opposed to someone that gets algorithmically recommended to you to be able to put some more onus on the on-demand nature of music streaming.The tough thing is that these things do get tough in general. Anytime there's any type of multiplier or factor in, there still is a zero sum pot that we're taking the money out of. So accepting the trade-offs, I like the direction, I think that there's a few ways to go about it that could make it more interesting, but in general, I do think that any of the proposed options I've seen at least, allow a bit more of a true economic reflection of where the reality is as opposed to where things are today.And I understand where things are today. It's easy. It's easy to report, it's easy to collect on and pay people out, relatively speaking. But like anything, there's trade offs.[00:57:14] Will Page: Yeah, it's really easy today. Even drummers can work out their royalties and no offense to drummers, but that's telling you something.But two points on my dura

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This week, I'm running back an interview I did with Will Page in 2022. It was our most popular episode of 2022 and we talked about a lot of topics that are still timely and still being debated right now in the industry. One of the most unique insights into the state of the music business today doesn't come from a record label exec. Not from an agent. Not from an artist. No, it comes from Scottish economist Will Page, who served that role for Spotify from 2012 to 2019 — a period of explosive growth for the streaming giant. But if you ask Page about streaming's future, he's not nearly as optimistic as the rest of the industry. “The party has to come to an end,” as he told me on this episode of Trapital.Page believes the music industry is transitioning from a “herbivore market” to a “carnivore” one. In other words, future growth will not come from brand-new customers — it'll come from the streaming services eating into each other's market share. Not only has subscriber counts possibly tapped out in Page's opinion, but streaming services have also put a ceiling on revenues by charging only $9.99, a price that hasn't budged in 20 years despite giant leaps in technology and music catalog size.  That against-the-grain prediction was one of many Will shared with me during our in-depth interview. But he has plenty more research- and experience-backed thoughts on touring, vinyl records, Web 3.0, and everything in between. Believe me, this is an interview you don't want to miss. Here's everything we covered: [3:21] The Global Business of Music[4:15] Vinyl Records $1.5 Billion Recovery[08:54] Will's Bearish View About The Future Of Streaming[14:46] Ongoing Price War Between Streaming Services[18:33] The Changing Economics Of Music Touring [21:44] Performing At Festivals Vs. Tours [24:57] The Evolution Of Music Publishing[28:34] How Music Revenue Gets Distributed To Publishers[32:41] What Does A “Post-Spotify Economy” Look Like? [33:44] The Current Business Landscape Of Hip-Hop Listen to Will's mix right here: https://www.mixcloud.com/willpagesnc/we-aint-done-with-2021/Check out Will's Podcast, Bubble Trouble, where he breaks down how financial markets really work.Read Will's book, Tarzan Economics: Eight Principles for Pivoting Through Disruption.Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | SoundCloud | Stitcher | Overcast | Amazon | Google Podcasts | Pocket Casts | RSSHost: Dan Runcie, @RuncieDan, trapital.coGuests: Will Page, @willpageauthor Trapital is home for the business of hip-hop. Gain the latest insights from hip-hop's biggest players by reading Trapital's free weekly memo. TRANSCRIPT[00:00:00] Will Page: When you have 110 million households, and you have more than 110 million subscribers in the United States, then we are in a race to the finishing line before herbivore turn into carnivores.In oil, we have this expression called peak oil, which is we know that we've extracted more oil in the world than is left to extract an oil that's left is gonna be even more costly to get out the ground. I think we're in peak subscriber territory where at some point soon we're gonna start seeing growth happen through stealing other customers as opposed to finding your own.[00:00:29] Dan Runcie Intro: Hey, welcome to the Trapital Podcast. I'm your host and the founder of Trapital, Dan Runcie. This podcast is your place to gain insights from executives in music, media, entertainment, and more who are taking hip hop culture to the next level.[00:01:12] Dan Runcie Guest Intro: For today's episode, let's revisit the most popular episode that we did in 2022. That's the conversation that I had with Will Page. Will Page is the Former Chief Economist for Spotify, the author of Pivot, and Advisor consultant to many of the companies that are leading the music industry today. In this conversation, Will and I talked about a lot of topics that are still timely and still being debated right now in the industry.The price of streaming. Streaming, especially for Spotify, is still $9.99 in the. Pound and Euro in many markets. But Spotify wants to keep that price for several reasons. They want to continue to grow as much as they can. They also want something in return from the record labels. They want some type of concession if they're going to raise their prices.But as we've heard, the push has got louder and louder from the record label CEOs that want that price to increase. So we talk about some of the origins of that debate and where that may be. Then we also talk about some of the competition among the digital service providers as well, whether it's Apple Music, Spotify, Amazon Music, and others.We talk about how it's transitioning from a herbivore market to a carnivore market now that the market's getting saturated. You probably heard that term a bit over the past year that originated from this podcast. So we talk about that a number of other timely things and more we'll eventually have will back on the podcast soon.But this is a nice precursor to refresh the memory a bit and with some of the topics that are still going on in music today. Here's our episode. Hope you enjoy it.[00:02:48] Dan Runcie: Some of the work you've done for a company that is very heavily focused on playlist, which is Spotify, and I think more broadly looking at the streaming era we're in right now.This is a great time to chat because we just saw the IFPI results and streaming as continuing to grow as we've seen. But I feel like you probably spotted a few interesting trends about where things are heading, and I think that's a question mark for a lot of people. Streaming continues to grow, but how far can it grow?What are we seeing in terms of differences within genres or regions? What are some of the things that stuck out[00:03:21] Will Page: to you? I'll give you a couple. The first one is the global business. Well, last time I looked at United Nations, I think there's 208 countries in the world. The global yearbook that we're discussing here has, I think 58.So we have to be careful what we define as global. I think Africa's clubbed together as one continent and where they need to work on that. But I think the global business is growing, but it's also becoming more American. So if you go back to when Spotify launched America, 22, 20 3% of the business round about just over a fifth.Today it's 37%. So we have seen the business grow and become more American, and that raises questions, you know, economic questions like globalization, questions, should poor countries catch up with rich ones? The theory says yes. The reality often says no. So we're seeing this kind of lopsided growth where the business is growing, but it's growing in favor of an American market.The biggest country is growing at the fastest. That's a positive problem, but I just wanna flag it, which is, that's not how it was supposed to play out. And then the second thing I'd wanna point to as well is just vinyl. this vinyl recovery is just, well, I don't know how much my bank balance is responsible for this vinyl recovery, but I'm telling you, Is define the laws of gravity.Now, we're now looking at vinyl being worth one and a half billion dollars, which is more than it's been worth in the past 30 years. It's worth more than CDs, cassettes, and downloads, the three formats that we're supposed to declare that vinyl is dead. But there's two things you can kind of cut out the vinyl recovery, which I think will be of real interest to your audience.Firstly, on the consumer side. I saw a survey which suggested that the majority, just over half of all vinyl buyers today, don't own a record player. I mean, something's cooking here. So what are we buying it for? I'll extend that as well. the cost of wall frames to frame vinyl on your wall often cost more than the record itself.So I'm willing to pay more for vinyl to you know, framed on my wall than I am for the record. And by the way, I don't have a record player. There's a lot of people who will tick those bizarre boxes. But on the crater side, something else is interesting. This'll take a little bit of working through.But if we think about the streaming model, it's monetizing consumption. That's what it does. So if there's an album with 10 songs, three killer and seven filler songs, and an album, and let's say Dan Runcie wrote the Three Killer Tracks and Will Page, he wrote the Seven Duff Filler Tracks. On streaming, Dan might walk away with all the money and I'll walk away from none because we're only streaming the killer tracks and nobody's touching the filler.As the album model kicks out from vinyl, I would get 70% of the cash. That's crazy because nobody knows what's being consumed and it's a lot of cash. If I just kind of do some rough math here of a million fans streaming your hip hop record on Spotify, and let's say they're stream. 200 times in a month when the album drops, you only need 20,000 of them of that million to make the same amount of money from vinyl than you would do from streams, which is entirely plausible.But then how do you pay the copyright owners from those songs on an album is very different from how you pay them on a stream. If you go back to the late seventies, the, one of the most successful records of all time was Saturday Night Fever, the Bee Ges and a bunch of other people. It's crazy to think that Ralph McDonald's Calypso strut his record there, which nobody has listened to, got the same royalty as staying alive by the Bee Gees because it was a vinyl record.So to reiterate, on the consumer, I don't know how many of these vinyl records are being played, and on the crater side, it raises questions about how these craters are gonna getpaid.[00:06:53] Dan Runcie: That's a good point book that I don't think is being talked about as much about the vinyl search because there's so much like wow, about just how much is being purchased.I think I even saw the stat that Adele's 30 album sold 8,000 cassettes. Or there was stuff tied from Stat about that, and I think the similar thing that you said, lines up having those people actually still own a watman or whatever type of cassette player that they have. So I do think that that is something that probably there could be a deeper analysis on because.A lot of the people that write the filler songs, how do they feel? Or whether you're a songwriter, whether you, you know what's behind it, especially when you know that there's so much clear path to be able to determine, okay, this is going to be the lead single, this is what we're gonna push most from this album.It really shifts things even more to where things are going in terms of a single market. Like the way that people have talked about pop music for a while now, right? And I guess that brings a, brings me back to the streaming trends that you mentioned. Overall, we're in this area, as you mentioned, streaming itself, the US penetration is grown from 22%, I believe you said is now through your 35, 37, somewhere around there.But where do we go from here because as you've written before, the price of music streaming, at least the monthly subscription hasn't necessarily been increasing. The average revenue per user overall because of the international growth is decreased, and you have plenty of people that are still trying to get there, fair share of what they can.It's streaming so. It's in like five, 10 years from now. If you could see into the future, where do you think streaming distribution is? I think the good thing is that people have smartphones and there's more and more growth from that perspective. So streaming is going to grow, but on the other hand, the economics of these things do have some theoretical goal point where we've maximized the global penetration of this.What do you think about, where that is going?[00:08:54] Will Page: Let me unpack it in two different lanes. Firstly, I'll deal with the saturation point question, which is, you know, how long can this party keep going for? It's three o'clock in the morning, who's gonna call time on it? And then secondly, I wanna deal with the pricing point on its own lane as well, but on saturation point, you're now in a situation where I put it as in America, we've had herbivores. We've had Spotify growing Apple, growing Amazon, growing YouTube, growing. Everybody's reporting growth, Pandora even is growing. What we are gonna see some point soon is carnivores.Which is Apple will grow by eating into Spotify's growth, or YouTube will grow by eating into Amazon's growth. So the key question we gotta ask is when do we go from the herbivore market? We're in today to a carnival market of tomorrow, and I output Spotify's US subscriber number around about 45 million, Apple at 49 million. We dump on top YouTube. Amazon, Pandora, you're well past 110-120 million. Now, that's important because I reckon and there's around about 110 million qualifying households in America that has at least one person who could pay for a streaming service. This is crucial because if you look at what Apple One's bundle is doing $30 a month for news, music, television, gaming, fitness, and two turbos of storage per six account holder. It's a household proposition they're saying to the home, I got you convenience. Everyone under this roof is covered with Apple products. So when you have 110 million households, and you have more than 110 million subscribers in the United States, then we are in a race to the finishing line before herbivore turn into carnivores.In oil, we have this expression called peak oil, which is we know that we've extracted more oil in the world than is left to extract an oil that's left is gonna be even more costly to get out the ground. I think we're in peak subscriber territory where at some point soon we're gonna start seeing growth happen through stealing other customers as opposed to finding your own.So I just wanna put that warning flag out there. Just now we're partying like it's 1989, fine, but at some point the party has to come to an end and gross is gonna come at the expense of other players that then flips, you know, from the A side to the B side of this record. We flip it over to price and then the pricing debate is interesting.I published this work called MELD Economics,uh, which we can cite on your, your wonderful website there. Which was to look at 20 year history of the nine 19 price point, and its crazy story back in the 3rd of December, 2001, over 20 years ago. Today Rhapsody got its license for a $9.99 offering, which had 15,000 songs.First point. The origins of 9 99 bizarrely date back to the Blockbuster rental card. Some coed up label executive would've said, if it cost 9 99 to rent videos from Blockbuster, that's what it should cost to rent music. Secondly, there was only 15,000 songs with limited use case. There was no smartphone back then.No apps, no algorithms. That was all a weird welded into the future. So you just. 9 99 for 15,000 songs. We are now chatting in early April, 2022, and it's still 9 99 in dollar in Euro and Sterling, but we're offering a hundred million songs. That's the crazy thing. So in the article, Mel Economics, what I do is I strip inflation out in the case of the uk, 9 99 has fallen down to six pounds, 30 pence.Remember, you know, Family Plan makes music cheaper too. If 2.3 people are paying $40.99, that's six pounds 50. There's way too many numbers in this conversation for Trapital, but still we'll stick with it. Student plan makes it cheaper too. So music in real terms, has fallen to six pound 30, which is less than a medium glass of Malbec wine, so 175 milliliters of Malbec wine costs than a hundred million songs, which is available offline on demand without adverts. That for me, is certified bonkers. I don't understand what we've done. We're offering more and more, and we're charging less and less, and you only have to leave the ears to the eyes on the video streaming to see what they're doing on the other side of the fence.Netflix has got me from $7.99 to $8.99 to $12.99, to now $14.90. In the space of 15 months, and I haven't blinked Disney plus. The reason I'm paying $4.99 on Disney Plus is because I paid $19.99 to get Cruella live on demand. So they're charging more and more, but only offering part of the wells repertoire set for eyeball content.We are charging less and less and offering more and more of the wells. Ear hole content, so it's like two ships passing each other in the night. It's a very interesting dilemma.It's intriguing because when you look at the way that video is structured, as you mentioned, you have all these price increases, and I think Netflix for some plans is, you know, $18.99, it's approaching that level, but in music, It's this thing where, yeah, there's some price differences where I think I saw today that Amazon music is increasing a dollar, but that's from $7.99 for prime subscribers to that being $8.99. So we still have to cross that.I wonder if I won't cost that.[00:13:57] Dan Runcie: I mean, honestly, I feel like there's something here because when I think about this, I think about a few things.Obviously you do have this fight where the artists wanna get more and the labels wanna get more, you know, not just for the artists, but for themselves. And obviously Spotify wants to earn more logically. You would think, okay, if you increase the price and people just understated the economics of what's likely.If Spotify increased up to 1299 a month for the standard base rate, how many folks would boing. But to your point earlier, I have to imagine that the fear is looking at the trends and where that penetration is. If they jump up to $12.99, then they're going to lose those customers to the other streaming services that haven't jumped there yet because of that thought of, you know, shifting to that carnivore mentality of competing with each other. So because for roughly 80% of the content that they do offer, it is roughly the same between each of these services. It's led it to be more of a price war then in video streaming, where most of them do have some differentiated content.[00:15:02] Will Page: A hundred percent. And two things to bolt onto your very eloquent points there. And firstly, let's just remind ourselves that Apple launched superior sound quality. You may remember the, commercial of Lossless audio. You buy your AirPods, which cost two years of Apple Music or Spotify to put in your ears and you get superior sound quality, the subtext underneath it said at no extra cost. That was the actual marketing message. So there again, we are improving the offer we're supplying more but we're charging less in real terms. And that's a really interesting kind of point kind of cut into. And the second thing, and we should get balance into this discussion cause it's delicates, we have to remind ourselves that, you know, there's 120 million subscribers in America.There's still another 120 million to go, but we know they're not that interested in paying for music because they haven't paid yet. Now the best way to attract them is not necessarily to raise price. So we gotta remember that there's still, you know, oil to extract. It's not gonna be easy oil to extract, but the best way to get to it might not be to raise price, but there's a catch to this.I can remember in the early nineties, right up to 2010 piracy, ripping the asset out of this business and concept promoters were saying. We love piracy because the kids are getting music for free so they can pay more on concert tickets. I wonder if now they're saying we love Spotify because they don't raise prices, which means we can raise ours.This is not a discussion of how to rip off the customer. This is a discussion about value exchange and I just wonder whether recorded music is leaving value on the table. That's the key pointto hammer on.[00:16:32] Dan Runcie: That's a good point. And I think that also made me think too, could there be some notion of maintaining the perception of Spotify as something that still has high pricing power and still has high consumer surplus, because then that helps the stock price.And then seeing that the major labels are all invested in Spotify itself. It's about like having that perception of, you know, the future growth and whatever it is. So what you just said made me think about that being a factor potentially too.[00:17:02] Will Page: A hundred percent. And of course, you've gotta distinguish the Spotify Apple music cost structure from that of the video streaming companies in that they have a kind of variable cost.You double your business, you double your cost base. Whereas Netflix, you jump up costs and you have, you jump up your revenue, you know, you raise me from 7 99 to 14 point 99, the cost of that content was fixed. And I'm still consuming the Fresh Prince of Bel Air on Netflix to this day. That was a fixed cost deal that he did to get that content and that's margin to Netflix.So, you know, the cost structure matters to this one as well.[00:17:33] Dan Runcie: Definitely. And you mentioned live music there, and I think there's a lot to think about from that perspective. I Feel like we're in this post pandemic. I mean, we're still not out of it, but we're in this post quarantine era, more artists than ever are trying to tour and get out there trying to capture what's there, but also from an economic perspective from that.Most people are only gonna go to a certain number of live events per year, and we have this 18 to 24 month run coming up where everyone wants to make up for what they couldn't do in the past two years. How will that shift, not just who then goes on tour together, and then how they may split those profits, what the availability looks like?And if they're not able to do what they may have done on tour in the late 2010s, how does that affect future touring? I think that's a piece of it that, you know, we still haven't necessarily seen the impact of, but it just feels inevitable based on where things are heading. You did it.[00:18:33] Will Page: Absolutely. Now on touring, I was lucky and I gotta do some great work on the UK live industry, and I can only speak for the UK here.I know a lot of your audience in the US but I think these points will carry. The first one was to work out how much is spent on concert tickets in Britain during the, the normal year of 2019, and the answer was 1.7 billion pounds. That's more than was spent on recorded music a lot more than was spent on recorded music, which makes sense, you know, you pay 120 pounds on the Spotify account, you're paying 240 pounds to go to Redding Festival. Two days in the muddy field in Redding, cost more than 365 days of all the wells. But what I noticed there was the industry is changing in its growth. I showed that between 2012, the year of the London Olympics and 2019, The live music industry in this country had exploded and grow, but it was lopsided.All the gro came from stadiums, festivals, and to lesser extent arenas. The theaters, the 2000, 3000 capacity theaters like the Philmore West over where you are, they were getting crushed. They were actually shrinking in size. So we have this lopsided live music industry, which is going right in the direction of the head as opposed to the long tail, the stadiums, the festivals, the arenas, as opposed to the theaters, the clubs, the university venues.And that's interesting cuz that's gonna change the dynamics of how you make money from live. Do you go from doing your tour of an album to doing a tour of your festivals for that record? And what does that mean? The cost structure for the insurance and all those things that bands have to consider when they're hitting the road.I mean, credit to capital. You've had some great podcasts recently on this topic, but as, a big rethink coming along in this live music market, it's not the same as we had back in 2019. It's changed fundamentally, and it is the breadwinner for most artists' income. I think it makes up about 70% of what an artist has to live for comes from the road that vanished.How do we get it back?[00:20:22] Dan Runcie: I feel like Cardi B has been a good. Case study on this specific point here, right? It's been four years now since she released an album, and she's yet to go on a true proper tour in that time. That said, she's done plenty of festivals where she's earned more on those festival guarantees that she likely would on tour.She's also done many private events where she's likely earned that save amount, if not more. So there's a whole economic argument to be made, and I think there's also some risk involved too, right? I think that festivals do give you the opportunity to. Get that major bag, you get the high number, the revenue that comes through, but maybe your fans will be a little bit more forgiving if your set piece at your festival isn't the most extravagant thing, especially if you're not the headliner at it.But on a tour, I think it changes. It's a little bit more pressure, everyone wants to see that Instagramable or talkable moment to then sell future tickets and just the production cost and everything with travel. It still is something that is very worthwhile, but I think we've just started to see some of that segmentation there.Especially for someone like her. I would add residencies too. I know she's done a few different things in Vegas here and there, but yeah. Still yet to do that 30 city worldwide tour.[00:21:44] Will Page: Yeah, I think you gotta think with your head and your heart. Your head says like you point out the economics favors festival.Your back line's there, your insurance is covered. Travel's already covered. I have numerous hip hop bands perform at festivals in Europe, and that's one of the big advantages. The costs are all taken care of by the festival, but your heart says, what does that do to intimate relationships with your fans?[00:22:05] Dan Runcie: Right?[00:22:05] Will Page: I mean, you're staring at 50,000 strangers in the muddy field. That's different from staring at 2000 friends in the Fillmore West. So the head and the heart's gotta come into play here. What I would add though is that there are rumors, I would say here in the UK at least, that the promoters are saying, I'll pay you a ton of money to perform at the festival to make sure that you don't go on tour.And that's an interesting situation. If you build one too many houses, you collapse a property market. If you have one too many tours or one too many festivals, you collapse live music industry. So there's ways in which people are trying to restrain the market to festival. At the expense of the theaters.That certainly is coming through in the data. We're seeing the theater business take a kick in while festivals go on a roll.[00:22:45] Dan Runcie: Yeah, because I think about, you look at the artists that are touring stadiums now, whether it's your Taylor Swift's or Beyonce's, they wouldn't be able to do that if they didn't have the individual tours at smaller venues when they were starting out. Being able to build that intimate fan base, like you said, like you get to that point, right? And I do think that as good as festivals can be, it is much more of a lucrative cash grab that is, I don't wanna say necessarily short-term thinking, but I think you ideally wanna have some type of balance there, right?Get the big bag that you can get from something else. It's almost no different. I think running a business, right? Okay, sure. You may be able to do a speaking fee or do some type of, you know, thing here or there, but hey, you can't do that all the time, especially if it's not an audience you're tapped into.You still need to do some of the things that could set you up for the long game.[00:23:37] Will Page: Yeah, and there's an infographic that I'll share with you to pass onto your audience here. I wrote an article in The Economist called Smells like Middle-Aged Spirit as opposed to Teen. Nice play on Words hat to Dave Gro and Kurt Cobain.But what I was looking at was the average age of festival headliners over time. This is a du pessimistic Scottish economist. This is what you do with your spare time. Okay, so in the nineties when radio head to Glastonbury, the average age of a festival headliner is 25, 26 years old. all these hot bands were coming through the Brit Pop era.You know, there was so much development of new talent. By 2012, I think it had got up to 58 and I got a lot of criticism for that article. But then Glastonbury that year had the WHO and Lionel Richie headlining, which I think was 17 and 73 years old apart. And then you can see the conveyor belt problem, which is okay, it's a quick cash grab.It makes sense. But that's not the conveyor belt of how we developed talent for tomorrow. That's just how we cash in our chips at the casino today. So it does raise questions, I'm not saying it's like the doomsday scenario here, but we just need a healthy balance of, you know, a seeded for future growth and then the big stage for exploiting that moment today, which could be the pyramid stage at Glastonbury, the headlights stage at Monterey over in the States.So I just think we're getting a little bit lopsided here. We're a bit short termist and how this business needs to develop.[00:24:57] Dan Runcie: Agreed on that. Switching gears a bit. One thing that you wrote recently that stuck out to me, you did this deep dive on music publishing, and I think this is another area that kind of has some of that short-term, long-term perspective on it, because you look at the people who get the share of the copyright pie, at least today, and from music streaming perspective, a lot of that has been much more in the favor of, the recorded side and then the people getting compensated on the recording side. But with that, the songwriters and the publishers, a lot of them necessarily in that timeframe, didn't get a lot of that. But I think in this wave now where we're seeing more catalog deals and we're seeing people understand the value of that, things may be starting to shift and there's likely other things as well.But what do you think about the way that the publishing side has been seen in what the future opportunities are for that side of the business?[00:25:54] Will Page: Well, the way that labels and publishing were taught to me in terms of what makes them distinct from one another goes back to my Aunt Dorian Loader, who worked in the music business from 1959 at Deca Records, right the way through to 2012.She ran Enzyme records with Nigel Grange, Lucian's Half-Brother. They were responsible for Shead O'Connor, who sold 11 million albums based on the Prince cover. And she once said to me, will, this is how the music industry works. The record label pays for your drugs and the publishing pays for your pension. I just kind of, that's a nice succinct way of summarizing how the business works.That was then, this is now clearly times have changed, I think, but it reminds us about, you know, what makes the business different. And then that piece of work that you cite is something called global value of copyright, where I'm really keen to educate this. Regardless of whether you're coming from a label perspective, a manager, an artist, a songwriter, there's a C with a circle on it called copyright.We get that, and it involves record labels. It involves sound exchange. It involves artists. It involves ascap, BMI, GMR, Czek. It involves publishers, David Israeli, and the great folks at the NNPA. It Put the whole thing together for me, all this spaghetti and strain it out. And what I was able to show was that in 2020, copyright was worth 32.5 billion, way bigger than what you've just heard from IFPI way bigger than what Czek would say.This is the entire thing. And the split was about 65% labels, 35% to the publishers. Now, if you go way back to 2001, when we used to sell CDs by weight of pate. In the cocaine capitalism days, you know, record labels back then. The split was much more in favor of labels, you know, more than three quarter labels, less than a quarter to the publishers.And what we've seen happen in the years in between is quite an interesting story. Labels went from boom time with CDs to bust with piracy, and now they're booming again with streaming. And the inverse, the opposite happened. Publishers as labels went bust. ASCAP, BMI kept on reporting record breaking collections, so you have a hair tore toys analogy here of labels going really fast and falling off a cliff.Publishers just trundled along with record breaking, not massive record breaking collections, but it kept on growing their bases. So, the questions these throw up is what type of industry are we moving towards? Are we going back to a business model which paid labels over three quarters of the pie and publishes less than a quarter, and is that a good or a bad thing?Or in this post Spotify economy where we're seeing companies like Peloton, Twitch, TikTok, come to the business, is that gonna have a completely different balance? Now why this matters to your audience is not just on the crater side, but also on the investment side. You pointed out catalog valuations. We can dig into that if you want, but just a high level point is, let's say that in a few years time, I go into my back cave again, calculate the global value of copyright, and instead of 32 and a half billion, it's 40 billion.I'll come on Trapital show, I'll make an exclusive announcement. Copyright today is worth 40 billion, seven and a half billion new dollars. Have come into this business, I want the audience to start thinking about who gets what share of that marginal new dollar. Is that gonna split publishing side or is that gonna split label side?And if you're investing in catalogs, be the master rights, be the author rights that really bears, there's a huge educational drive here to understand the balance of this business of copyright.[00:29:15] Dan Runcie: So there's a few things you've said there that I wanted to dig into. Of course, for streaming Spotify and its competitors around 75%.Is going to the recorded side a quarter to publishing. But from a breakdown, what does that look like for the TikToks, the Roblox and the Pelotons? What does that share of revenue from those plays look like?[00:29:38] Will Page: So, The best way I could do this is if I just talk about ratios. There's three Rs in this business.There's share of revenue, there's ratio in this rights pool. They mean different things. Most experts get confused. With these three Rs, I'm gonna stick to ratios. That is, if I give the label a dollar, how much do I give the publisher, the songwriter, this collective management organization. So we stick to the conventional streaming model Today, I would say that if you give the record label a dollar, you're giving the publishing side of the.24 cents, you know, a decent chunk of change. But still the pure cousin of the record label on YouTube, I think it could be as high as 35 cents, 40 cents even. Because there's a sync right? Involved in those deals. And then when you take that observation of imposing the sync right into deal, and you expand it to Peloton or TikTok, potentially even more, and then you can flip it and say, well, what happens if the future of TikTok is karaoke?Not saying it's gonna happen, but it's not implausible if that was the case. That favors publishers even more. So there's all these weird ways that the business could develop, which could favor one side of the fence. The labels and the artists continue getting three quarters of the cash or the other side of the fence.Publishers and songwriters start enforcing their rights and getting. A more balanced share and that that's what we need to look out for when we're investing incorporates. That's what we need to look out for. If you're a singer and a songwriter and you're trying to understand your royalty statements[00:30:57] Dan Runcie: mm-hmm.Well, like how much higher do you think? I mean, if you had to put a percentage on it for the TOS or the Pelotons, and I guess as well, you made me think of sync deals, right? Like for the folks that are selling, or their song gets placed on one of these hulu series or one of these HBO Max series, like what does that ratio look like, you know, from a ballpark for those.[00:31:20] Will Page: So I think a 50 50 split would be the upper bend of the goal. If, if a song is placed in a Hulu TV show or you know, an artist I've worked with for many years, Yu Dito Brazilian composer, his songs now in this famous easy Jet commercial over here in Europe. The artists and the publisher would see around a 50 50 split of those revenues.Now, would that happen in the world of streaming? Unlikely. But I think if you can get to a stage where you're giving the record label a dollar and the publisher 50 cents as a ratio, and I've gotta repeat the word ratio here, you know, that's potentially achievable with this post Spotify economy. I don't think it's gonna happen with the business we're looking at today, but I think that's a potential scenario for the business developing tomorrow.That's the thing. If I can quote Ralph Simon, a, a longtime mentor to me, he always says, this industry is always about what's happening next. And then he goes on to say, it always has been. It's a great reminder of just, you know, we're restless souls in this business. We've achieved this amazing thing in the past 10 years with streaming.Got there. Banked there what's coming next, who would've thought Peloton would've had a music licensing department 18 months ago? Now they're like a top 10 account for major labels.[00:32:30] Dan Runcie: It's impressive. It really is. And I think it's a good reminder because anytime that you get a little bit too bullish and excited about what the current thing is, it's, we always gotta be thinking about what's next.And you mentioned a few times about a post Spotify economy. What does that look like from your perspective? I think there's likely a number of things that we've already talked about with more of these other B2B platforms or where these other platforms in general, having licensing deals. But when you say, or what do you think about post Spotify economy?What comes to mind for you?[00:33:02] Will Page: Let me throw my fist, your words, your jaw, and try and knock you out for a second. We talked about price for a minute, and we talked about streaming. We haven't talked about gaming, but you noticed the Epic Games. It's just acquired band. I learned a fascinating stat about bandcam, which relates to my book Tarzan Economics.There's a chapter in the book called, "Make or Buy", where I sat down with the management of the band radio head. We went through the entire in Rainbow Story for the first time ever, a real global exclusive. Explain how that deal worked out, what they were really achieving when they did their voluntary tip jar model.And by the way, can I just put a shout out to one of your listeners and live from the Ben Zion. Best remix of Radiohead I've ever heard in my life is Amplive, Weird Fishez hip hop version of the entire album. But Radiohead tested voluntary tip jar pricing. Now check this out. If you put your album out on Band Cap, could be a vinyl record.Remember, it's the people who are paying to stream who are also buying vinyl. So if you put a ban, an album, my own banquette, and you say name your own price, no minimum, and there's a guidance there of 10 bucks, the average paid is. People go above 40% asking, and that could be for a super rich blockbuster artist who tries something out in band camp.That could be for some band who's broken Brooklyn, Robin and coins together, trying to make them breed. People go 40% above asking when you say name your own price. And that's interesting for me. there's a great academic paper by Francesco Cornell from Duke University. She asked, how should you price a museum?An intuition says Top-down. Museum should set the price. Adults 10 bucks, kids, five bucks, pensioners, some type of discount arrangement. But she said, no, let the visitors set the price because that way rich people will give you even more and poor people can attend and you'll see more cash overall. And I would like to see a little bit more of that experimentation around pricing compared to the past 20 years where we've had a ceiling on price, where if you really love a band, all you can give a platform is $9.99 and not a penny more.I think that's, we're suffocating love. We're putting a ceiling on love and we need to take that ceiling and smash through it and let people express love through different means. But I love that ban camp story. Whatever you suggest, I'll give you 40% above cuz it's art. We're not dealing with commodity, we're dealing with culture and that's why we gotta remind ourselves.[00:35:13] Dan Runcie: It's like the Met model, right? Where at least the last time I went, it was like $20 was the recommendation. But to your point, it at least had some vary of a threshold. But the people, a lot of the people that go there that have a lot of money end up giving much more. So I hear you on that. That's a great note to end on. Will, thanks again. Thank you so much.[00:35:33] Dan Runcie Outro:If you enjoyed this podcast, go ahead and share it with a friend. Copy the link, text it to a friend, post it in your group chat. Post it in your Slack groups. Wherever you and your people talk, spread the word. That's how capital continues to grow and continues to reach the right people. And while you're at it, if you use Apple Podcast, Go ahead.Rate the podcast, give it a high rating, and leave a review. Tell people why you like the podcast. That helps more people discover the show. Thank you in advance. Talk to you next week.

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This week: all the best new and hidden features in iOS 16.1, iPadOS 16.1, and macOS Ventura. Plus: Apple releases yet another great update for the original HomePod, and BestBuy beats Apple in providing a way to pay for your new Mac monthly and trade it in when new models come out. This episode supported by Easily create a beautiful website all by yourself, at Squarespace.com/cultcast. Use offer code CultCast at checkout to get 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Cult of Mac's watch store is full of beautiful straps that cost way less than Apple's. See the full curated collection at Store.Cultofmac.com CultCloth will keep your Mac Studio, Studio Display, iPhone 14, glasses and lenses sparkling clean, and for a limited time use code CULTCAST at checkout to score a free CarryCloth with any order at CultCloth.co. This week's stories Apples hikes prices of Apple TV+, Apple Music and Apple One Apple plans to raise the prices of some of its subscription services by $1 to $3 each, reports indicated Monday. The services include Apple TV+, Apple Music and the Apple One subscription bundle. 4 great iPadOS 16.1 features that aren't Stage Manager Apple finally released iPadOS 16.1. The debut of the Stage Manager multitasking system has drawn most of the attention, but plenty of other new features are worth checking out, too. Monday's launch is extra-significant because iPadOS 16 never launched. Version 16.1 is the first replacement for last year's iPadOS 15.x. 5 iOS 16.1 features to try right away How to share an iCloud Photo Library iOS 16.1 Features: Everything New in iOS 16.1 Apple Releases New HomePod 16.1 Software With Matter Support According to Apple's release notes, HomePod software version 16.1 includes support for the Matter smart home standard. Best Buy's 'Upgrade+' Program Lets Customers Get a New Mac Laptop Every Three Years With Monthly Financing Best Buy today announced a new financing and upgrade program called "Upgrade+." The program involves a combination of interest-free financing through Citizens Pay and an option to upgrade to a new Mac laptop after three years.

The App Store ads expansion faces backlash, but it's unclear whether Apple cares. iOS 16.2 beta gives us our first look at Freeform app. Moreover, macOS Ventura is released to the public — Zac and Benjamin share their hands-on with Stage Manager. And, we also discuss the surprise price hikes to Apple Music and Apple TV+. Sponsored by LinkedIn Jobs: LinkedIn Jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/HAPPYHOUR. Sponsored by Jamf: Get complete management and security solutions for your organization that are enterprise secure, consumer simple, and protect personal privacy with Jamf. Learn more at jamf.com/9to5mac. Sponsored by Pillow: Pillow is an all-in-one sleep-tracking solution to help you get a better night's sleep. Download it from the App Store today. Follow Zac Hall @apollozac Benjamin Mayo @bzamayo Read More Apple surpasses 900 million paid subscribers as Services revenue increases 5% YoY Apple temporarily halts showing ads for gambling apps on App Store product pages following developer complaints Apollo for Reddit now lets users follow thread comments with Live Activities iOS 16.2 beta introduces new architecture to the Home app for a more reliable experience Stage Manager on Mac: Hands-on with the new multitasking UI in macOS Ventura [Video] Flighty update adds Live Activity to track your current flight status, including Dynamic Island integration on iPhone 14 Pro macOS Ventura now available for Mac users with Camera Continuity and Stage Manager iPadOS 16.1 now available: Stage Manager, iMessage editing, display scaling, more iOS 16.1 now rolling out, here are the full release notes Apple is raising the price of Apple Music, Apple TV+ and Apple One from today M2 iPad Pro reviews: Much like the M1 model, only a handful of people need it 10th-gen iPad reviews: A long-awaited update, but maybe not the best buy Jony Ive successor Evans Hankey leaving Apple, no new design lead named yet Listen to more Happy Hour Episodes Subscribe Apple Podcasts Overcast Spotify Listen to more 9to5 Podcasts Apple @ Work Alphabet Scoop Electrek Podcast The Buzz Podcast Space Explored Podcast Enjoy the podcast? Shop Apple at Amazon to support 9to5Mac Happy Hour or shop 9to5Mac Merch!

Apple increased the price of its services this week, including Apple Music, Apple TV+, and all if its Apple One bundles. Dave and I run through the new prices and how much you can expect to pay moving forward. Dave has been using a new macOS Ventura feature called Stage Manager. We talk about that and how it differs from similar features Apple has released in the past. We also look at what the "Stick Man" does in a hockey game and how important he is to the players. Kolide: With Kolide, you can make your team into your biggest allies for endpoint security. Solve problems, right within Slack. Learn more here. Ladder: Go to Ladder today to see if you're instantly approved for term coverage life insurance. It's the one thing in life that you really cannot afford to wait on. Show Notes: StickMan! Was that Tim Cook waving the checkered flag at the Austin Grand Prix? Thread Apple's Industrial Design Chief Hankey to Leave Three Years After Ive macOS for the M2 iPad Apple Services pricing going up Stage Manager Shows and movies we're watching Ozark The Playlist Travelin' Band: Creedence Clearwater Revival at the Royal Albert Hall The Beatles: Get Back

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Apple has raised the price on Apple Music, Apple TV+, and the Apple One bundles. TMO Managing Editor Jeff Butts and Ken talk about why now may not have been the best time for that. Plus – U2 frontman Bono spills the beans on the gift of music many iPhone owners did not want.

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When you're out and about without a strong WiFi connection, these apps, settings, and tips can help you use your iPhone, iPad, and Mac offline.  Download Music from Apple Music  Low Data Mode  Offload Unused Apps  Audible  Tripmode  ExpressVPN  Amazon Kindle  Apple Books  Apple TV  Divinity - Original Sin 2  Disney+  Netflix  Plex: Movies, TV, Music & More  Plexamp  Prologue  Civilization VI News  Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks  You now have an extra year to get your iPhone 12's audio issues fixed  UK carrier EE is the first to include the Apple One bundle as part of a mobile phone plan Shortcuts Corner  Doug shares a tip regarding creating Calendar events using Shortcuts on iOS. Marc wants to know if there's a way to create a daily news update using Shortcuts on iOS. Feedback & Questions Tom wants CarPlay to show a zoomed-in version of Apple Maps instead of a zoomed-out version.  G. James shares a great tip regarding the time picker in Calendar events on iOS. App Caps Rosemary's App Cap: Planes Control! Mikah's App Cap: MOFT MagSafe Wallet Stand Hosts: Mikah Sargent and Rosemary Orchard Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/ios-today. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can contribute to iOS Today by leaving us a voicemail at 757-504-iPad (757-504-4723) or sending an email to iOSToday@TWiT.tv. Sponsors: nomadgoods.com/IOSTODAY eightsleep.com/ios

When you're out and about without a strong WiFi connection, these apps, settings, and tips can help you use your iPhone, iPad, and Mac offline.  Download Music from Apple Music  Low Data Mode  Offload Unused Apps  Audible  Tripmode  ExpressVPN  Amazon Kindle  Apple Books  Apple TV  Divinity - Original Sin 2  Disney+  Netflix  Plex: Movies, TV, Music & More  Plexamp  Prologue  Civilization VI News  Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks  You now have an extra year to get your iPhone 12's audio issues fixed  UK carrier EE is the first to include the Apple One bundle as part of a mobile phone plan Shortcuts Corner  Doug shares a tip regarding creating Calendar events using Shortcuts on iOS. Marc wants to know if there's a way to create a daily news update using Shortcuts on iOS. Feedback & Questions Tom wants CarPlay to show a zoomed-in version of Apple Maps instead of a zoomed-out version.  G. James shares a great tip regarding the time picker in Calendar events on iOS. App Caps Rosemary's App Cap: Planes Control! Mikah's App Cap: MOFT MagSafe Wallet Stand Hosts: Mikah Sargent and Rosemary Orchard Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/ios-today. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can contribute to iOS Today by leaving us a voicemail at 757-504-iPad (757-504-4723) or sending an email to iOSToday@TWiT.tv. Sponsors: nomadgoods.com/IOSTODAY eightsleep.com/ios

When you're out and about without a strong WiFi connection, these apps, settings, and tips can help you use your iPhone, iPad, and Mac offline.  Download Music from Apple Music  Low Data Mode  Offload Unused Apps  Audible  Tripmode  ExpressVPN  Amazon Kindle  Apple Books  Apple TV  Divinity - Original Sin 2  Disney+  Netflix  Plex: Movies, TV, Music & More  Plexamp  Prologue  Civilization VI News  Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks  You now have an extra year to get your iPhone 12's audio issues fixed  UK carrier EE is the first to include the Apple One bundle as part of a mobile phone plan Shortcuts Corner  Doug shares a tip regarding creating Calendar events using Shortcuts on iOS. Marc wants to know if there's a way to create a daily news update using Shortcuts on iOS. Feedback & Questions Tom wants CarPlay to show a zoomed-in version of Apple Maps instead of a zoomed-out version.  G. James shares a great tip regarding the time picker in Calendar events on iOS. App Caps Rosemary's App Cap: Planes Control! Mikah's App Cap: MOFT MagSafe Wallet Stand Hosts: Mikah Sargent and Rosemary Orchard Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/ios-today. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can contribute to iOS Today by leaving us a voicemail at 757-504-iPad (757-504-4723) or sending an email to iOSToday@TWiT.tv. Sponsors: nomadgoods.com/IOSTODAY eightsleep.com/ios

When you're out and about without a strong WiFi connection, these apps, settings, and tips can help you use your iPhone, iPad, and Mac offline.  Download Music from Apple Music  Low Data Mode  Offload Unused Apps  Audible  Tripmode  ExpressVPN  Amazon Kindle  Apple Books  Apple TV  Divinity - Original Sin 2  Disney+  Netflix  Plex: Movies, TV, Music & More  Plexamp  Prologue  Civilization VI News  Apple expands Self Service Repair to Mac notebooks  You now have an extra year to get your iPhone 12's audio issues fixed  UK carrier EE is the first to include the Apple One bundle as part of a mobile phone plan Shortcuts Corner  Doug shares a tip regarding creating Calendar events using Shortcuts on iOS. Marc wants to know if there's a way to create a daily news update using Shortcuts on iOS. Feedback & Questions Tom wants CarPlay to show a zoomed-in version of Apple Maps instead of a zoomed-out version.  G. James shares a great tip regarding the time picker in Calendar events on iOS. App Caps Rosemary's App Cap: Planes Control! Mikah's App Cap: MOFT MagSafe Wallet Stand Hosts: Mikah Sargent and Rosemary Orchard Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/ios-today. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can contribute to iOS Today by leaving us a voicemail at 757-504-iPad (757-504-4723) or sending an email to iOSToday@TWiT.tv. Sponsors: nomadgoods.com/IOSTODAY eightsleep.com/ios

Apple Music fue el detonante de una ruptura con Apple One Premium. Además de otros motivos, como un uso familiar bajo o una intrascendencia de Arcade o Fitness+, fue sobre todo la comparación con Spotify lo que provocó la deflagración. *** Loop Infinito es un podcast de Applesfera, presentado por Javier Lacort y editado por Santi Araújo. Contacta con el autor en Twitter (@jlacort) o por correo (lacort@xataka.com). Gracias por escuchar este podcast.