Podcast appearances and mentions of Lilly Ledbetter

On today's Labor Radio Podcast Daily: Trump's crackdown in Newark backfires, uniting protestors and sparking global anti-fascist solidarity. From What's Going On Labor Mondays. On today's labor arts calendar: the film Lilly — about equal pay trailblazer Lilly Ledbetter — screens online, and High Iron, an immersive rail labor experience, is on view in Laramie, Wyoming. In today's labor history: remembering the Memorial Day Massacre of 1937. @stucknation @wpfwdc @AFLCIO #1u #UnionStrong #LaborRadioPod Proud founding member of the Labor Radio Podcast Network

Hosted by Jane Pauley. In our cover story, Seth Doane reports on reaction to this week's election of Pope Leo XIV, and what it means for the Catholic Church. Also: David Pogue looks at the obstacles faced by driverless taxis; Tracy Smith interviews media executive Barry Diller about his new memoir, “Who Knew”; Jo Ling Kent talks with small business owners about the effects of President Trump's tariffs; Faith Salie profiles actress Patricia Clarkson, who plays fair pay activist Lilly Ledbetter in the film “Lilly”; and Jim Gaffigan has a suggestion for how to celebrate Dads this Mother's Day. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Director Rachel Feldman joins Mike to discuss her powerful new film Lilly (2025), a long-overdue portrait of activist Lilly Ledbetter. They explore the real-life struggles that inspired the story, the battle to bring Lilly's fight for equal pay to the big screen, and the challenges of crafting a deeply personal historical drama in today's Hollywood landscape. Feldman shares behind-the-scenes insights into the film's development, the emotional performances at its core, and why Lilly's story continues to resonate now more than ever.The film opens in the US on May 9, 2025.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-projection-booth-podcast--5513239/support.

It's May Day on the Labor Radio Podcast Daily! We talk with Steven Schrum, co-author of Labor's Martyr, a new musical about Joe Hill. Plus, tonight's DC Labor FilmFest kicks off with Lilly, the story of equal pay trailblazer Lilly Ledbetter. All that, your labor arts calendar, a look back at the 1886 fight for the 8-hour day, and today's labor quote—straight from the screen. Full details at laborheritage.org. @wpfwdc @AFLCIO #1u #UnionStrong #LaborRadioPod Proud founding member of the Labor Radio Podcast Network

On today's Labor Radio Podcast Daily: Union Strong on advancing labor issues across New York. Labor arts highlights from DC and Santa Cruz. In labor history: striking miners shot in 1906. Plus, Lilly Ledbetter's call for justice as the DC Labor FilmFest kicks off. More at laborheritage.org. @nysaflcio @wpfwdc @AFLCIO #1u #UnionStrong #LaborRadioPod Proud founding member of the Labor Radio Podcast Network

The Workplace MinuteWelcome to the Workplace Minute, brought to you by H3 HR Advisors. Your quick-hit version of the HR Happy Hour Podcast, where Steve Boese shares the latest in Human Resources, HR tech, workplace trends, and more—all in just a few minutes. Tune in and stay on top of what's shaping the workplace today!In this episode, Steve shares news about "Lilly" , an upcoming feature film about Lilly Ledbetter, the champion of pay equity for women, and the namesake of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009.To listen to the Workplace Minute powered by H3 HR Advisors on Amazon Alexa – add the Workplace Minute by H3 HR Advisors skill to your Amazon Echo device's Flash Briefing or Daily News Update. Download the H3 HR Advisors 2025 Workplace Trends Report here The Workplace Minute is sponsored by Paychex – one of the leading providers of HR, payroll, retirement, and software solutions for businesses of all sizes – learn more at www.paychex.com/awia.The HR Happy Hour Network is sponsored by Workhuman – The future of HR has arrived. Will you – and your company – be a part of it? Learn about Human Intelligence at Workhuman.com and join their force for good.

Starring Patricia Clarkson, John Benjamin Hickey and Thomas Sadoski and directed by Rachel Feldman, Lilly is based on the remarkable story of Lilly Ledbetter, whose fight against pay discrimination in an Alabama tire factory took her through courts and Congress despite powerful opposition. Following the transformation of an ordinary citizen into the face of an issue, Lilly illuminates the impact a single courageous person can have. In theatres on May 9.Kate Kelley is a dynamic leader at the intersection of marketing, social impact, and entertainment, using film to drive meaningful change.As Associate Producer and EVP of Corporate Partnerships for LILLY, she leads initiatives that empower women and advance workplace equity through content creation, strategic collaborations and advocacy-driven partnerships.Kate also heads corporate partnership development for Shine Global, an award winning nonprofit media company using film to raise awareness and inspire action for children and families. Additionally, as Senior Advisor to Simple Spirits, a mission-driven spirits portfolio tackling food insecurity in America one drink at a time.With deep expertise in brand strategy, Kate has collaborated with major brands, agencies, and cultural institutions including Paramount, Disney, Youtube, and the Tribeca Film Festival, mobilizing action and impact through business and entertainment.

Remarks of President Barack Obama on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act bill signing.

Matthew Bannister onGeneral Sir Mike Jackson, the Chief of the General Staff at the time of the Iraq War.Lily Ledbetter, whose campaign for equal pay led to an Act of Congress. Safeya Binzagr, the pioneering Saudi Arabian artist whose career flourished despite the cultural restrictions on women in her societySteve Piotrowski, the ornithologist who ringed 100,000 birds and helped to increase the barn owl population of Suffolk.Interviewee: Lord Richards Interviewee: Noreen Farrell Interviewee: Melissa Gronlund Interviewee: Kathy Piotrowski Producer: Ed PrendevilleArchive used: Gen Mike Jackson interview, Six O'Clock News, BBC News, 14/06/1999; Gen Mike Jackson, BBC News, 07/03/2003; Lilly Ledbetter speech and interview, NPR, Uploaded 14/10/2024; Steve Piotrowski interview, BBC Radio Suffolk 19/10/2015; Spectrum: Out of Town , BBC One East, 16/04/1985; Wrens singing, BBC Sfx, May 1981; Atmospheres: Countryside (Barn Owl), BBC Sfx, June 1981; Birds: Robins, BBC Sfx, March 1986; BBC Radio Suffolk 19/10/15; Wood Pigeon, Tweet of the Day, 14/12/2023; Collared Dove, Tweet of the Day, 07/01/2024; Great Tits, A Guide to Garden Birds : Series 1 : Episode 2, 26/08/2008 ; Nightingale, BBC Sfx, May 1983; Swift Screaming Party, RSPB England, Facebook, 29/06/2024

Forget the cartoonish “Great Man” version of American history, nearly all social progress in our country has been spurred by unheralded “nobodies” who felt a sting of injustice – and resolved to right the wrong.

The Context of White Supremacy hosts the weekly summit on Neutralizing Workplace Racism 10/18/24. Racist Suspect and champion of White Women's Rights in the workplace, Lilly Ledbetter died this week in Alabama at the age of 86. During President Obama's first time and first year in office, Ledbetter stood with the former president as federal legislation was passed to help White Women close the so-called gender pay gap. Meanwhile, non-while males and non-white females continue to lag behind the wages of White Men and White Women. We're over half done with the month of October, which means next month's presidential elections is closing. Non-white people are encouraged to remain codified in the workplace with our mouths closed about the ballot box and all candidates. Think in advance if you may be a victim of political violence because of your work and plan accordingly. #HurricaneMilton #TheCOWS15Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 605.313.5164 CODE: 564943#

Josh Moon and David Person discuss comments made by Donald Trump about Sen. Katie Britt, Mark Cuban's insights on Trump's leadership, and an analysis of Kamala Harris's recent interview. They also reflect on the legacy of Lilly Ledbetter and her impact on women's rights and pay equity. Dr. Joe Reed, the chair of the Alabama Democratic Conference, discusses the upcoming meetings of the Alabama Democratic Party and the Alabama Democratic Conference, highlighting significant bylaw changes, the strained relationship with the Democratic National Committee (DNC), and his view on the influence of former Sen. Doug Jones on party dynamics. Then, Josh and David engage with Makhayla DesRosiers from the SPLC and Beverly M. Cooper from Stand-Up Mobile to discuss the importance of voter outreach and civic engagement in Alabama. They explore the challenges of voter intimidation, the need for informed voting, and the significance of targeting young voters. To close, Josh and David discuss the recent controversies surrounding voter rights and election integrity. X/Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/alathisweek Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alathisweek About Our Sponsor Alabama Politics This Week is sponsored by Wind Creek Hospitality. Gaming is the heart of Wind Creek Hospitality, but they offer so much more. Wind Creek's 10 distinct properties in the U.S. and Caribbean — including four in Alabama — provide world-class entertainment, dining, hotel stays, amenities and activities. As the principal gaming and hospitality entity for the Poarch Band of Creek Indians, Wind Creek continues to grow and offer guests luxurious destinations and opportunities for escape. Send us a question We take a bit of time each week to answer questions from our audience about Alabama politics — or Alabama in general. If you have a question about a politician, a policy, or a trend — really anything — you can shoot us an email at apwproducer@gmail.com. You can also send it to us on Facebook and Twitter. Or by emailing us a voice recording to our email with your question, and we may play it on air. Either way, make sure you include your name (first name is fine) and the city or county where you live. Music credits Music courtesy of Mr. Smith via the Free Music Archive: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/mr-smith/discography

Lilly Ledbetter, equal pay trailblazer, died on Saturday. WSJ's Joseph De Avila reports on how Ledbetter faced pay discrimination at her job and sued her employer, taking her case all the way to the Supreme Court. And WSJ's Lauren Weber discusses the persistence of the gender pay gap.  Further Reading: -Fair-Wage Advocate Lilly Ledbetter Dies at 86  -Data Show Gender Pay Gap Opens Early  Further Listening: -The TikTok That Changed College Hoops  -What Corporate America Can Learn From Coke's Reckoning With Race  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Voter suppression tactics now include strict voter ID laws, reduced early voting times, and limits on mail-in ballots. VA and AL are facing lawsuits related to purging voter rolls.  Lilly Ledbetter, who passed away last Saturday, was instrumental in pushing for equal pay between the sexes. So why has the gap remained roughly the same over two decades? The new book “Den of Spies” chronicles the Reagan campaign’s efforts to delay the release of U.S. hostages in Iran to hurt President Jimmy Carter’s re-election chances. 

This month's Little Reps release from the vault is someone we covered almost two years ago to the day, in October 2022: Lilly Ledbetter. We decided to release this episode to the public because we recently learned that Ledbetter passed away at age 86 just this past weekend on October 12, 2024. We thought sharing this episode with everyone would be a great way to honor her legacy and the work that she did in her life. In addition to this episode, you can hear us talk about her in the Women's History Month Big Reputation episode as well as in our episode on Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Because this was a last minute swap for our originally scheduled Little Rep rewind release, it does not have the typical introduction you might have come to expect from these episodes. But that's neither here nor there as the important content - everything about Lilly Ledbetter - is all there.

Quite a few calls. Homes. Mormons. Tariffs. Trump vs courts, juries. Supers. Lilly Ledbetter, RIP, Equal Pay. Trump vs Taliban! The Hake Report, Wednesday, October 16, 2024 AD TIMESTAMPS * (0:00:00) Start * (0:01:56) Hey, guys! * (0:03:54) DAVID, Ocala: Home price; Gov bums; Weak fathers; Not God's children! * (0:12:00) DAVID: Mormons? … Election hate * (0:18:55) Tariffs clip: blocked Hake! Pakman, Sean Mike Kelly * (0:31:39) JOE, AZ: Grand Jury against Trump * (0:41:09) JOE: People's "self-fulfilling prophecies" * (0:49:04) Coffee: Little Rock-ette man * (0:54:25) Coffee: Lilly Ledbetter * (0:59:36) Coffees, Supers… Trump Bloomberg interview: Tariffs… * (1:04:07) MARK, AL, 1st: Ex-wife equal pay raise * (1:08:13) Hake on divorce * (1:12:31) ALEX, CA: Got over sadness; Anti-Trump: not men * (1:20:51) MARK, CA: Interracial kids hurt * (1:26:55) RICK, VA: Support. Trump vs other presidents' character * (1:31:35) ANTHONY, NJ, 1st: Mixed kids * (1:38:11) JOHN, KY: criticism for William vs Maze; yay Mark * (1:40:15) JEFF, LA: Trump vs Taliban leader; Kamala on Fox News * (1:44:04) JAIME, MN: Tariffs, internationalism, protectionism * (1:50:02) Closing, Supers: Call tomorrow! * (1:50:38) Starflyer 59 - "A Good Living" - 2005, Talking Voice Vs Singing Voice LINKS BLOG  https://www.thehakereport.com/blog/2024/10/16/the-hake-report-wed-10-16-24 PODCAST / Substack  HAKE NEWS from JLP  https://www.thehakereport.com/jlp-news/2024/10/16/hake-news-wed-10-16-24 Hake is live M-F 9-11a PT (11-1CT/12-2ET) Call-in 1-888-775-3773 https://www.thehakereport.com/show VIDEO  YouTube  -  Rumble*  -  Facebook  -  X  -  BitChute  -  Odysee*  PODCAST  Substack  -  Apple  -  Spotify  -  Castbox  -  Podcast Addict  *SUPER CHAT on platforms* above or  BuyMeACoffee, etc.  SHOP  Spring  -  Cameo  |  All My Links  JLP Network:  JLP  -  Church  -  TFS  -  Nick  -  Joel  -  Punchie   Get full access to HAKE at thehakereport.substack.com/subscribe

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AP correspondent Ben Thomas reports an icon of the equal pay movement has died.

Today on America in the Morning   Harris & Trump Rally Pennsylvania Pennsylvania remains a hotbed of political activity, with both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris in the Keystone state trying to win over any remaining undecideds while rallying their base. John Stolnis has more.    Latest On Milton & Helene Damage Progress continues in the Southeast where lights are coming back on in Florida after two deadly and destructive hurricanes. Correspondent Clayton Neville reports the overall recovery will take much more time, and misinformation is causing trouble for North Carolina's cleanup efforts.     Canada & India At Odds There's a diplomatic row north-of-the-border involving two US allies after Canada and India expel each other's diplomats in an escalating dispute. Correspondent Julie Walker has details.    Israel Tells US Of Iran Attack Plans Oil prices fell overnight after reports surfaced that Israel told the United States that it will not target oil or nuclear sites when it decides to attack Iran.     More Lawsuits Against Diddy Another day and more legal trouble for Sean "Diddy" Combs. Correspondent Ed Donahue reports this time for the music mogul its more allegations of sexual assaults in six new civil lawsuits.    Huge Pumpkins It weighs as much as a car. Correspondent Lisa Dwyer reports that a Minnesota Horticulture teacher remains a champion of giant pumpkins.     Florida Getting Power Back Power in Florida is expected to be restored to all areas affected by Hurricane Milton by sometime today, and the state is offering free gasoline to those in need as the cleanup continues. Correspondent Julie Walker reports it may take upwards of a year to fix the damage and clear the debris left behind by a storm that cut right through the heart of Central Florida last week.     Death Toll Rises In North Carolina In North Carolina, the death toll has risen to 95 from Hurricane Helene. The largest number of deaths – 42 – comes from Buncombe County, one of the hardest hit counties in Western North Carolina.     FEMA Workers Threatened In NC In some cases, people in North Carolina who are desperately needing help are not getting it, because they are telling those who want to help them to leave. Correspondent Lisa Dwyer reports that FEMA workers had to change how they were operating in North Carolina after receiving death threats at a time of heightened disinformation about relief efforts.    Legal Action Threatened Over Coachella Arrest The man arrested with guns outside a California Trump rally is telling his side of the story, while authorities are standing behind his arrest. Correspondent Clayton Neville reports.    Wall Street Protests It was busy on Wall Street on Monday, but it had nothing to do with what was happening on the trading floor. About 200 demonstrators protesting Israel's war in Gaza were arrested in a sit-in outside the New York Stock Exchange.    Another Arrest In Michigan Home Invasion Murder Authorities in Michigan have made a second arrest in the case of a 72-year-old man found dead in the basement of his house after a home invasion robbery. Pamela Furr has more on the story.    California Takes Action On High Gas Prices Governor Gavin Newsom signed a bill aimed at reining in California's soaring gas prices that remain the highest in the nation. Newsom said the bill will require oil refineries to keep a minimum inventory level of fuel in an effort to avoid scarce supply, which leads to higher prices.     Remembering Lilly Ledbetter An icon of the equal pay movement has died. Correspondent Ben Thomas reports on the passing of Lilly Ledbetter.    NJ Train Accident A train operator died after a New Jersey Transit River Line train struck a tree that had fallen onto the tracks. It happened during the start of the morning commute.      Finally   Elon Musk is catching heat from a Hollywood director, claiming the Tesla CEO copied his robotic designs. The details from Kevin Carr. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

ELLENTON, Fla. (AP) — Florida counties hard hit by Hurricane Milton are returning to a semblance of normalcy with power being restored to most areas, gas stations reopening and students returning to school this week. Still, some neighborhoods remained without power Monday, and neighborhoods with many severely damaged homes and business will take longer to recover.  Former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris each made stops in Pennsylvania Monday touting their agendas. ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — New Mexico authorities are grappling with a growing number of migrants dying in the state's border region, with the remains of more than 100 found in the first eight months of the year in the state. Many were discovered just miles from the El Paso, Texas, port of entry. Israeli strikes in the southern Gaza Strip killed at least 15 people overnight, including six children and two women.  SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korea says North Korea blew up the northern parts of inter-Korean roads no longer in use. Tuesday's action came after the rivals exchanged threats of destruction amid rising animosities over North Korea’s claim that South Korea flew drones over its capital.  CENTERVILLE, Mass. (AP) — Members of the Kennedy family gathered Monday for the funeral of Ethel Kennedy, the wife of Sen. Robert F. Kennedy. She died on Thursday at age 96. In other news: FEMA workers change some hurricane-recovery efforts in North Carolina after receiving threats. Florida neighbors band together to recover after one-two punch from hurricanes Helene and Milton. Biden admin to provide $750 million to North Carolina-based Wolfspeed for advanced computer chips. Voters in California and Nevada consider ban on forced labor aimed at protecting prisoners. Minnesota city says Trump campaign still owes more than $200,000 for July rally. Lilly Ledbetter, an icon of the fight for equal pay, has died at 86. 6 people accuse Diddy of sexual assault in new lawsuits, including man who was 16 at the time. NASA spacecraft rockets toward Jupiter's moon Europa in search of the right conditions for life. The pandas are coming! The pandas are coming! India recalls ambassador from Canada in growing dispute over assassination of Sikh activist. Operator dies and more than a dozen passengers hurt as New Jersey commuter train hits tree. The Mets even up the NLCS, the Yankees take Game One of the ALCS, Bills get a late field goal to win, Lion's Hutchinson has surgery, and the AP pre-season top 25 college basketball poll is out. And Clayton Kershaw says he plans to return to Dodgers for 18th season in 2025. —The Associated Press About this program Host Terry Lipshetz is managing editor of the national newsroom for Lee Enterprises. Besides producing the daily Hot off the Wire news podcast, Terry conducts periodic interviews for this Behind the Headlines program, co-hosts the Streamed & Screened movies and television program and is the former producer of Across the Sky, a podcast dedicated to weather and climate. Theme music The News Tonight, used under license from Soundstripe. YouTube clearance: ZR2MOTROGI4XAHRX

Today we have a few minutes of the Congressional District 2 debate for you. But first, we have briefs on Lilly Ledbetter, a Gov. Ivey executive order being put on a shelf by some, and a heavenly body that passes our way every 80,000 years or so. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kamala Harris releases her “Opportunity Agenda for Black Men", Donald Trump is endorsed by the National Border Patrol Council, Bill Clinton campaigns for Harris-Walz in Georgia, Columbus Day vs. Indigenous Peoples Day debate, U.S. sending powerful THAAD air defense system plus 100 U.S. troops to Israel, equal pay activist Lilly Ledbetter dies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

China says it's introducing a range of bold policies aimed at reviving its economic growth, including measures to strengthen capital markets and stabilise the real estate sector. But detail is thin on the ground - and that's having an effect on global markets. Ed Butler hears from the World Bank as its latest report shines a light on the 26 poorest countries in the world, highlighting the severe challenges they face, from poverty to limited access to essential services.Plus there are tributes to Lilly Ledbetter - a trailblazer for equal pay in the US, with President Biden saying she never stopped fighting for all Americans to be paid what they deserve.

We're back with the Business News Headlines for Monday the 14th day of October. Good to be with you.  We were out for a couple of days due to the holiday of Yom Kippur but ready to get things rolling again this week with the Business News Headlines. Meanwhile, if you want to reach out to us on social media you can hook up with us all day on Twitter or "X" @IOB_NewsHour and on Instagram. Facebook? Sure were there too.  Here's what we've got for you today: The Nobel Prize for Economics is a big story; Who was Lilly Ledbetter?  We'll share; Stellantis CEO points fingers at sales failure; FEMA pausing work and the reason will blow you away; Big changes about to happen with employer health care; The Wall Street Report; The company is cutting back on "deals" we'll share who. Thanks for listening! The award winning Insight on Business the News Hour with Michael Libbie is the only weekday business news podcast in the Midwest. The national, regional and some local business news along with long-form business interviews can be heard Monday - Friday. You can subscribe on  PlayerFM, Podbean, iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher or TuneIn Radio. And you can catch The Business News Hour Week in Review each Sunday Noon Central on News/Talk 1540 KXEL. The Business News Hour is a production of Insight Advertising, Marketing & Communications. You can follow us on Twitter @IoB_NewsHour...and on Threads @Insight_On_Business.

1) Nuseirat, Deir el Balah, Jabalia. L'esercito israeliano continua a colpire la Striscia di Gaza, da nord a sud. Bombardata anche la zona intorno ad un ospedale nella zona umanitari. In Esteri il racconto dalla Striscia di Gaza: “il sud non esiste più”. (Elisa Cardillo – Unrwa, Giulio Cocchini - Cesvi) 2) Libano, verso la guerra infinita. 18 persone sono state uccise in un raid israeliano su un villaggio nel nord del paese. In Medio Oriente sono saltate tutte le linee rosse. (Emanuele Valenti) 3) La casa è un diritto. A Madrid decine di migliaia di persone in piazza contro il caro affitti. Tra gli under 30 solo un giovane su 3 può permettersi di vivere da solo. (Giulio Maria Piantadosi) 4) Stati Uniti, è morta Lilly Ledbetter, la donna che fece cambiare la legge sulla parità salariale. (Roberto Festa) 5) Serie Tv. Su Apple Tv arriva Disclaimer, 7 puntate dirette dal premio Oscar Alfonso Cuarón. (Alice Cucchetti)

Human rights attorney Noura Erakat for her thoughts following the International Court of Justice's preliminary ruling on South Africa's genocide case against Israel. And, Brian Katulis, senior fellow and vice president of policy at the Middle East Institute, talks about what the U.S. response to the Iranian-backed militia attack could mean for the wider conflict in the Middle East. Then, new data analysis indicates that voters under 30 hold increasingly polarized political views depending on their gender. Young women have moved sharply to the left in the past decade, while young men tilted more conservative. The Atlantic's Derek Thompson discusses the implications. Plus, 15 years ago, former President Barack Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act into law to bolster strengthened worker protections against pay discrimination. Equal pay activist Lilly Ledbetter and the National Women's Law Center Fatima Goss Graves, talk about how pay transparency laws and other policies can help close the gender pay gap.

In 2009 Lilly Ledbetter learned she had been paid 40% less than men in the same Goodyear Tire & Rubber job. It was a long slog, but she won, and working women today still benefit.

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Podcast: Meg Nocero—Can You Feel Joy As You Rethink Your Life? Blog: You Can Find Joy And Happiness In Turbulent Times! Additional resources for you My two award-winning books: Rethink: Smashing The Myths of Women in Business and On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Our website: Simon Associates Management Consultants Read the transcript of our podcast here Andi Simon: Hi and welcome to On the Brink With Andi Simon. I'm Andi Simon, and as you know, I'm your host and your guide. And I love to find people to bring to you who can help you see, feel and think in new ways so that you can get off the brink. I want you to soar. But sometimes we don't really know how to do that. We want to. We may even visualize what life could be like if it wasn't so…and fill in that blank. But how do I do that? So today, Sarah Wilson, who I love, brought me Joanna Hardis, who is a beautiful woman who you're going to love listening to. Let me tell you about her and then she'll tell you about her own journey because she has a new book. And we'll talk a little bit about the book today. It's called Just Do Nothing: A Paradoxical Guide to Getting Out of Your Way. So here's Joanna's background. She's a licensed independent social worker, a therapist and an executive coach in Ohio, and that's her main business. She's committed to helping people overcome complex challenges. And I know some people who watching this podcast are going to say, That's me, I got it and it's okay. So they can lead high quality lives. Her expertise lies in cognitive behavioral therapy, CBT, which you may know about, an exposure and response prevention for adults, children and adolescents. You can find her on LinkedIn and learn a lot more about her. A couple of things I just want to highlight. She really is focused on helping people in the face of anxiety-related issues and obsessive compulsive disorders. So this is a person you really might like to know more about if that's something that is disturbing you and she can identify what's holding you back and give you strategies to help move you forward. And today, the things that I think we're going to talk about as we talk about doing nothing, it's called empower you to understand, break through the barriers that are holding you back, create your own sliding scale of distress, and learn to let feelings be instead of letting them go. We'll come back to these, and I'm sure Joanna is going to tell you a whole lot more about them. Please, thank you for joining us. Joanna Hardis: Thank you for that lovely introduction, Andi. Appreciate that. Andi Simon: Well, I appreciate having you. Our audience will as well. I'm curious about both your background, your journey, the origin of this great book, and then what our listeners will learn from our podcast today about this complex world that we're in and the anxiety that often arises. And life is too short. We have to find better ways to live it. Your story. Joanna Hardis: Yes. So how I got here. I imagine, well, I never intended to be a therapist. I sort of just happened to get here. I went to college, pre-med, not really even wanting to be pre-med. I wanted a fellowship in high school to do independent study and had a real interest in working with people with HIV. So I was in high school in the 80s when HIV was really emerging on the scene. I don't know how it emerged, but I had an interest in working with people with HIV and AIDS. So a friend and I got a fellowship to do independent study and worked with physicians at a local hospital working with people with HIV and AIDS. So I went to college, went to Cornell and had this real interest in having a career in HIV and AIDS, and was told at Cornell like, Oh, then you're pre-med. And I was not a very savvy student, despite being at Cornell. So I was in a pre-med track and realized quickly that it was not for me. And went to my advisor who said, What do you like? And I said, I really like people. And so the advisor said, Okay, well, maybe you're a social worker and not someone who at that time was very savvy. Again, I said, Okay, well let me give this a shot. Let me give this social work thing a shot. And I got to do an internship. So I went to Costa Rica and lived and worked. And I thought that was incredibly cool. So I kind of found my way into social work, never thinking about other career paths like psychology or counseling, but really found my way into social work by happenstance. I started my career in HIV. I spent about a decade in HIV, still hold it very near and dear to my heart, but really fell in love with working with people and have a real interest in what makes people click and the brain and helping people move forward. So my career started in HIV and AIDS and I got trained in cognitive behavioral therapy and have really always had this interest in helping people who are in very complicated situations, working collaboratively to move them forward. And so I have been able to partner with people throughout my career, and I'm in my 27th year as a cognitive behavioral therapist. I do that and really work with people in different areas of life. So I've been with people with HIV and AIDS. I've worked in an eating disorder treatment center, which is unbelievably challenging. I've worked with young entrepreneurs. I have volunteered during the pandemic with therapy aides, just giving, volunteering with frontline workers to now having my own private practice where I have really committed to working with people with anxiety disorders because it just makes so much sense to me. Anxiety disorders and obsessive compulsive disorder. Andi Simon: And there is an abundance. There's an epidemic of this. Joanna Hardis: Yes. Andi Simon: And so it's not as if you're looking at a needle in a haystack. It is the haystack. Joanna Hardis: It is. It is. And, you know, we know from data that parents who struggle, it has an impact on children. So I find it incredibly rewarding. I stopped seeing kids and adolescents during Covid because I had to move virtually. And so now my practice is adult. But I do work a lot with parents to change their behavior because we know that that can help children. We need a different way in which to help people that are struggling. Andi Simon: And before we get into the book, which I'd like to know more about as to why you wrote it and what the listener can benefit from. But give us some context here for the audience, around where does anxiety come from? And the context, because what you're talking about is that it becomes contagious. What's going on with the parents? It gets picked up as normal by the children, who then spread it among other children who think we should all be anxious instead of we should all be happy. But I'm making that up. You help me help you, What is it like and how can we better identify it? Joanna Hardis: Sure. And there is a difference between an anxiety disorder and anxiety, which is just a normal state and a normal reaction, for instance, to fear. So it exists on a continuum. So let's walk it back a little bit to the difference between fear and worry, because oftentimes we confuse fear and worry. Fear is a response to a threat. So someone cuts you off on the highway and you get that fear. You get that flood of adrenaline in your whole body, you get the whoosh, the flood of adrenaline. That's fear. It is a response to a biological threat, an external threat. Well, what if that happens again? What if someone cuts me off again? And what if that car is too close and oh my gosh, what if I need to go really slowly? That cognitive process to fear is what we call worry. Andi Simon: Good. Great distinction. Joanna Hardis: Right. And if you're still feeling the physical sensations, we would say, I am feeling anxious. Andi Simon: Gotcha. This is perfect, I know exactly who's listening today. And that is exactly what they have gone through. And an initial fear of something that is now turned into anticipatory worry about it. Right. And it makes them anxious and unable to make good decisions. Joanna Hardis: Yes. Now, and we may say that anxiety, perhaps that ride, you may feel anxious. But if that worry or that anxiety persists and the person every single time they get in the car or they think about getting in the car, they are worrying and they're feeling anxious and it is starting to impair and it could impair their life because every time they're thinking about it, they are worrying. Then we are starting to cross the line. And we may say that it could be crossing over if it happens for long enough. Yeah, it could cross over into an anxiety disorder. Or we may say it's excessive worrying. Andi Simon: Yeah. Those are great words because it's difficult to know whether the situation requires a suitable amount of fear reaction or anticipating it. You're worrying about something that may never, ever happen again and impairs your life. You're smiling at me, but I really understand that for some situations, people are so anxious that they can't take a step forward, they get locked in their own fear. Joanna Hardis: Exactly. And then you know what? You have nailed it, Andi. And what people don't recognize, they wouldn't because they don't know this stuff, is that the more time someone spends worrying about it, it is training their brain that this is important and that this is dangerous and that this fear that they have is actually relevant in the absence of any data that says it's relevant. So the brain gets trained and then the brain is going to say, oh my gosh, we need to be extra vigilant. Andi Simon: Yep. And they can't articulate what the crisis will be because it has nothing to do with the facts of what's going on. It has to do with their worry factor. Joanna Hardis: Yes. Yes, exactly. Exactly. And so learning how to stay out of the story, the worry story, because there's nothing in their direct experience that speaks to that. This is what is happening right now. Andi Simon: It is. But it's also very interesting about the connection between something that might have happened as opposed to not knowing why I'm here. And I have a hunch that sort of leads to our discussion about what you do and what this book is intended to do. Because once you see that progress and the dead end and the only way you can revert people back to seeing the world in a positive way is to back it up somehow and rethink it somehow or restructure it somehow. Help me help them. Joanna Hardis: Unfortunately, the brain can't unlearn. Andi Simon: Yes. Joanna Hardis: So the brain cannot unlearn that. You had that frightening experience. But what we can do is we can create new learning. Andi Simon: Yes. Joanna Hardis: And so that's what the person needs to focus on, is that in this direct moment, in this present moment when their brain wants to go to the worry story, that is when they need to learn the skills to say, Nope, whatever it is that I want to go into the worry story, I need to learn how to let that story be. It's really doing nothing with those thoughts, letting the thoughts be, letting my feelings be there. I may feel worried, but I'm not going to engage in them, letting that stuff be. And the focus is on the action that's important. So getting in the car and driving and not paying attention to, oh my gosh, well, what if this happens? What if I get cut off? What if someone drives too close? It's doing what we know in the moment is in the behavior. And letting the other stuff be.  Andi Simon: So I am curious about the book because I love this idea of when these things arrive, you've got to learn new thinking processes and new behaviors, so you become consciously competent about how to change what I'm thinking and feeling. So I begin to do it and practice it so I can become good at it. Right? It's like a game. We don't think of it as a game, but it is, to learn new habits. Joanna Hardis: Correct. And it's paradoxical. So the title, you know, the catchy title is Just Do Nothing. But then the subtitle, which is The Paradoxical Guide for Getting Out of Your Way. The paradox is that, and I suspect people that listen to you can relate. People are used to doing more. Yeah. And when people are feeling a lot and feeling more, they're used to doing more to get rid of it. So they think more. They ruminate more, they worry more. Andi Simon: And they write long, long, long, long, long things about it that you can't figure out what it's all about. Right?  Joanna Hardis: Yes. Well, exactly. And so it's doing more to try to get rid of it that makes the worry and the fear stronger. So what we want to do is to learn how to get the skills, to do less with how we're feeling and the thoughts that are so troublesome. And so that's what the book helps people learn: the skills to practice in very small ways that build on each other to do that. And then they do it in gradually more stressful situations. Andi Simon: So Joanna, talk to us about where this book came from, this is your first book. Joanna Hardis: This is my first. Andi Simon: My first book took me four years, my second book, only two, my last one, a year. I mean, we begin to figure out how to write a book and why it's important, but this is an important book. Where did the idea come from and how did it develop? Joanna Hardis: It was interesting. People have always suggested I write a book and I always said I'd never had anything to write a book about. So I didn't really have an intention. And then I had been doing workshops with a colleague that I met who also is interested in anxiety work, and we had been doing them on helping people change their relationship with distress and discomfort. So I had been working professionally in this space in addition to my practice. And then a year ago I had a curveball in my own life. I was dating, someone got ghosted, and it was my own personal explosion of distress. And it was someone I've been divorced from for ten years, but it was someone that I really thought that I could go someplace and was ghosted out of nowhere. And I had to really work on what I had been talking about in a way that I hadn't in a long time. And so it was a confluence of professional interest and then personal experience. And from that, I and the ghosting story, is literally the first page of the book. The book came out of that intersection and I had a fire in my belly and it took me less than a year to write the book. Andi Simon: Yes. Exciting. Well, but it was there to cleanse yourself. Writing is a great way to take the mind and what it's thinking about and push it out. All the things that you're talking about, to learn new ways to build a new story. Joanna Hardis: Yes. And what's interesting is my work is focused on anxiety in my professional life. But what I talk about is distress, because what is under the umbrella of distress is anxiety, is stress, is shame, is embarrassment, is boredom. All these feelings that people really don't like to feel. And so it broadens the umbrella for people because what trips people up, whether it's what gets in people's way, whether it's not going to the gym, overeating, not asking for a raise. It may not always be anxiety. It may be shame, it may be embarrassment, it may be boredom. And so people need a process for all of those feelings.  Andi Simon: And you just said the word so well, because we decide with the heart and how things feel, then the brain gets engaged. And I also always preach that we live the story in our mind. And that story is an illusion of what your reality is, and you live it. And then something like your situation arises and now you have to rewrite that story to give it a positive experience for you so you can wake up every morning and say, Hey, this is a good day, as opposed to, Oh crud, do I have to get out of bed? But that's really important. So talk to us about the book itself and then the kinds of things about the solution: just do nothing. Joanna Hardis: Okay, so the book is structured in two parts. The first part is really frontloaded with education to help people understand why change is hard. Because I wrote the book for people, because I'm assuming that people who pick this up have tried to change their feelings. Stuck. They may have tried lots of things before and for many people, they're coming in with a perception that there may be skepticism. They may think that their perception may be that they can't change. So I want people to understand and this is all evidence-based work. So it is not just Joanna's thoughts about life. It's all evidence-based. Why change is hard. Why? You know how we need to think about the thoughts in our head? You know, facts about feelings that are helpful for people, why we shouldn't take them so seriously, that they only last 90 seconds. And in the first part, everything has exercises. So at the end of every chapter, there are exercises to practice. So you can read the book any number of ways. You can do each chapter and then do the exercises. You can read the whole book through and then go back through and do the exercises. The second part of the book is Everything that Could Go Wrong. As you set about to make a change in your life, what could go wrong and how to course correct? So the first part is really to help people change their relationship with distress and discomfort. So it is really explaining why we need a new way, why things that you have may have tried don't necessarily work. And then I lay out how we're going to do it differently. So instead of trying to get rid of feelings that we don't like, we're going to allow them and then we're going to learn to do nothing with them and we're going to focus on behavior that is meaningful to us and how we're going to create a scale breakdown. What you want to change into little baby parts, and how when you start to feel the discomfort, you know how to move through it and you'll have exercises to practice going from something with very low discomfort, with a process to move through higher discomfort. And then in the second half, as I said, it's everything that could go wrong, including that when something gets hard and you feel like you failed, how to reframe your relationship with setbacks. Andi Simon: Love this. You have no idea how timely this is for different people in my life who have gone through something traumatic or that they think is traumatic or are anticipating something traumatic. It's so interesting to listen to the categories in my mind of the folks who you are describing without describing them as types. Joanna Hardis: Yes. Interesting. Andi Simon: It is. One is a young woman at a university that had somebody come in and shoot a professor. Joanna Hardis: Oh, gosh, yes. Andi Simon: And when you talk about the distress, the fear, the worry, and how do parents manage that in a way which doesn't deny that there's anxiety or anxiousness or concern to the point where the young woman said, I can't even take a walk without feeling unsafe. And that is that car story where I'm not going to get in the car to drive because somebody almost hit me. And that becomes one kind of situation and another situation, that I know of where the act of doing something is going to be potentially dangerous, and so I'm not going to. Well, but maybe you'll miss a whole opportunity because it could be dangerous. And so there's the disappointing one. But I think that what you're describing is exactly what we know when we work. I mean, I have positioned myself as a corporate anthropologist who helps companies change. And for my listeners, I always preach that change is pain. Because once you got a story in your mind, that's the way you live and you don't realize that these other things could change that story. Or if you want to change what you're doing, you're going to have to change the story. There is no reality. There's only this mythical story in your mind. And it's not doing good things for you. Your book sets out a path to change it. Am I correct? Joanna Hardis: Yes. Andi Simon: Oh, my gosh. You and I have a lot in common.  Joanna Hardis: Yes. Because in my field, we talk about what distress intolerance is, and distress intolerance is someone's perception that they can't handle. We call it negative internal states. So I can't handle feeling anxious about taking a walk. So I'm going to stay home. So it's getting locked into the story and then avoiding it. Andi Simon: Yes. And that becomes my view of the world as if it's real, not imagined, but everything is imagined. And so if I'm going to get past that and trust, I'm going to have to figure out how to take a step outside and begin to break the resistance to my fear and worry. Joanna Hardis: Yes, exactly. And that's what I'm talking about. Exactly. And we go about it because we have to get the behavior. We change thinking by changing behavior. Andi Simon: I love it because that's just what I preach. Because to change, you can't do your strategy and be abstract. You have to change the behaviors, the habits so that things are actionable and then the brain comes and justifies. It doesn't get better. Joanna Hardis: We're saying the same thing, but different.  Andi Simon: But it is so exciting. It is. Now, this has come out of your work, but it isn't your work. So in some ways, you want to reach beyond the folks in Ohio that are in therapy with you. Joanna Hardis: So, yes. Andi Simon: How do you do some online seminars, workshops, or things that people could come to you for? Joanna Hardis: So my colleague and I are doing online seminars, workshops, and we're retooling it now. We are retooling it. And we're going to be doing a course, interestingly, for anxious parents. Andi Simon: Oh, great. Joanna Hardis: Yes. Andi Simon: And do they have to be just in Ohio or could they be anywhere? Joanna Hardis: It can be anybody. It can. When we do these, it can be for anybody. But we are focusing on parents because right now there is so much nationally about parents that are anxious and are having a really hard time tolerating not only their children's distress. And so that makes it really hard for parents to parent the way they know they want to be parenting or need to be parenting. And parents have a really hard time tolerating their own distress. So they give in to their kids or they're constantly nagging or they're doing the work for their kids and they're not allowing their kids the independence and the autonomy that we know kids need. Andi Simon: This is so powerful because it is going to create a different world for the generation that's coming. And I'll blame it on the pandemic for the moment. But it is a time of transformation without clarity about how do I, on the one hand, cope with my anxiousness or my distress, my fear, and then also make sure that the next generation grows up strong, happy and able to solve complex problems with creative thinking, all the things that kids learn by playing outside on the street together and making a game together. Right? Joanna Hardis: Yes. Yes. So that's in the works. We're in the final stages of putting the course together. And, you know, who knows? I mean, I may develop a course from the book. I have to see. It's only been out a month. So I think if there's interest, I may put something together. Andi Simon: I think that you have a mission that I think is transformational for our culture and society that's far bigger than that. If I hear you right, you mean you want to take the next generation of parents and kids and make them happy because it isn't that the world is bad, it's that they see it that way. You know, that letting a child walk to school, it's not going to be they're not going to get kidnapped. They might, but they're not. I rode my bike to school growing up and I went outside and we played kickball or stickball or whatever, on the street. We didn't have organized stuff to the degree they have now. And so we were free to be kids. And I and some of my neighbors, we still stay in touch when we remember the joy of pulling the sled. I mean, it was freedom.  So now it's become very constrained. And I'm not going to blame and complain. But I do think that if we don't transform, the next generation is going to see the world through a very different lens and they're not going to want to do anything. Joanna Hardis: Yes. No, I agree with you. And I saw recently in The Wall Street Journal that parents, when kids are at summer camp, which used to be a time away from parents, parents are now obsessively looking over kids' photos. So I guess camps are now posting photos of their kids at camp and parents are obsessively looking over the camp photos to make sure that the kids look happy, and they're contacting the camps. And parents are really invested in the photos and taking action. Andi Simon: And the photos have no reality. They're just photos you're imposing on them. Meaning…? But that photo may be at a moment where they were dealing with something or struggling with something or happily doing it. You have no idea what the meaning was at that moment. But you are certain that that photo says my son or daughter isn't happy. Joanna Hardis: And has no friends. Right. And then intervening in a child's experience and parents are getting…I mean, there is so much wrong with that. Andi Simon: So much wrong with it. Joanna Hardis: We could do a whole podcast on what's wrong with that, that I think that there is a need to really intervene. And I don't blame parents. I think it's the culture. The pendulum has swung in the other direction. Andi Simon: You might almost team up with all those camp owners and say, You might want to educate your parents before they start their kids in camp. That's a whole audience who, I mean, when I went off to camp, my husband and I started at young ages and it was our free time. The last thing I ever wanted my parents to do is show up. Right? Joanna Hardis: Right. Andi Simon: They don't have to know anything about my sneaking out the back door of the bunk in the middle of the night to meet a guy down by the basketball. That was not what they were supposed to know. Joanna Hardis: Right, Exactly. Can you imagine?  Andi Simon: Right. And the camp directors have gotten caught into this because now the world is all social. And so there's a reality there. That's one last thought. And then we will wrap up because I'm having too much fun. But there's been a whole lot of discussion about the merger of virtual and reality. And I have some friends who are teachers in elementary schools, and the kids are coming in unable to separate out social real from virtual real. And they can't have conversations with other kids. They don't know how to socialize with them. I'll blame the pandemic for that. But also what we've done is replaced people with virtual and now they think that they're almost the same and they like being the avatar in a virtual game rather than having a game with real kids. They don't even know how to play in the schoolyard. Your thoughts? Joanna Hardis: Well, I mean, I can only speak to what it does when I see it, when it turns into an anxiety disorder. I work so hard with people to use real data. It is so easy for people to get lost in possibility. And the more that someone is living online, living virtually, they are living in the ‘what if' and living in possibilities and living in this comparison mode. They are comparing and it is just so hard for them to use their real sense data and it makes it much harder to treat.  Andi Simon: Especially real life experience vs. iimagined. Oh my goodness, welcome to the world that we're moving into, that we haven't even talked about. Joanna Hardis: I was just thinking that.  Andi Simon: Because then I don't know what's real. This has truly been a pleasure. I usually like to ask my speakers 2 or 3 things you want the listeners to remember and then where they can get your book. But first, what should we let them remember the most? Joanna Hardis: A feeling only lasts 90 seconds. That is so important. From the moment it is released in the brain to when it is out of the body. So people will always say, my feelings last hours and hours. That is because we are re-triggering the circuit by our behavior. That is essential to remember. Another thing to remember is that just because we think it or feel it doesn't mean that it's true. Andi Simon: Just because we think it doesn't mean it's true. Joanna Hardis: It doesn't mean it's true. And we always want to go with behavior, behavior that moves us toward what's important to us or what we need to be doing. Andi Simon: This has been truly wonderful. Joanna Hardis: It has been. I've enjoyed it so much. Andi Simon: I have enjoyed it as well. And that's why I do podcasts, because I get pleasure at meeting new people and sharing ideas in ways that are difficult otherwise. And for my listener, it is a time of change, and change is painful, and we are trying to figure out as we are coming out of the pandemic period what is “normal or certain.” And there is no normal and there is no certain. So now you need new skills, the correct skills that Joanna's been talking about, is to begin to think about behavioral change. And because if you begin to do it differently, then you'll think it differently. I‘ve learned a lot about what I needed to know today, which was a perfect day for this. So I want to thank you and the name of the book and where they can get it, please. Joanna Hardis: The book is Just Do Nothing: A Paradoxical Guide to Getting Out of Your Way. They can get it anywhere they want: Amazon, Barnes and Noble, bookshop.org or go to my website: Joannahardis.com. Andi Simon: It is a lovely website and you'll learn more about her. So thank you. And so for all of you who come and are my fans and you keep bringing me more fans, which I love, and more people to speak on the show. Thank you. Our new book, Women Mean Business is now available. Yesterday was our launch day, September 26th, and today is a wonderful day for you to buy it. Just like Joanna, any place that sells great books and enjoy it, it is 500+ wisdoms coming from 102 amazing women who are successful entrepreneurs and philanthropists in finance, in all kinds of ways, including in the C-suite and in senior positions in major firms. But they are leaders and thought leaders. And these women want to inspire you. One of the things we keep saying is, As we rise, we lift others. And that's our hope, because as you read it, you're going to say, Oh, I can do that. Lilly Ledbetter is quoted. She says, believe it, do it, and believe in yourself and it will happen. But she has some marvelous quotes. I think that everyone in the book is there to help us do better. So thank you for coming today. And Joanna, thank you for being here. Joanna Hardis: Thank you so much for allowing me to be here. It was so fun. Wonderful. Andi Simon: Bye bye now. Everybody have a great day. Bye.

Hear how to keep your seat at your own table that you build for yourself What I love about my guest today, Nori Jabba, is that when she hit a brick wall—in her case, a series of job rejections—she pivoted and wrote a book about the whole job-search process and dealing with mulltiple rejections, called Keeping Your Seat at the Table. Now she's writing a second book but actually she's not writing it, everybody else is writing it. It will be a compilation of other people's stories about their journeys and their seats at the table. Want to contribute? Contact Nori on her website keepingyourseat.com. Listen and learn how to build your own table. Watch and listen to our conversation here Nori's three things you need to build your own table 1. Forget about getting that seat or keeping that seat. It's really about keeping your own seat at your own table that you build for yourself. 2. You can't do it alone. You've got to lean on others. Think about who's at that table with you. Who's at your table? 3. Believe in yourself. It's really about believing in yourself and loving your voice, loving what you bring to the table and knowing that you add value How to connect with Nori You can find Nori on LinkedIn and her website, and you can send her an email at norijabba@gmail.com norijabba@gmail.com. To learn more about finding your purpose at work and in life, check these out: Podcast: Smita Joshi—We Are All Works In Progress! Think Of It Like Karma And Diamonds Podcast: Lisa McLeod—If You Want To Succeed, You Must Find Your Noble Purpose Podcast: Richard Sheridan—How To Lead With Joy And Purpose! Additional resources for you My two award-winning books: Rethink: Smashing The Myths of Women in Business and On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Our website: Simon Associates Management Consultants Read the transcript of our podcast here Andi Simon: Hi, welcome to On the Brink with Andi Simon. I'm Andi Simon, I'm your host and your guide. And my job is to get you off the brink. What I like to do is bring you interesting people who are going to help you see, feel and think in new ways. Why is that important? Because your brain hates me, it doesn't really want to see new things. It's got a story stuck in there that only sees what conforms to it. So today we have to take you exploring, becoming an anthropologist, begin to step outside yourself and look in a new way. So today I have Nori Jabba. Nori is a wonderful woman who's coming with a new book to talk about. The name of the book is Keeping Your Seat at the Table. She'll show you a copy of it in a moment. But Nori came to me through Kathryn Hall, who's a wonderful publicist, and I just enjoy the guests she brings to my podcast because they're all interesting people, men and women who are doing things exactly like we like to, in different ways. Nori, thank you for joining me today. Nori Jabba: Thank you, Andi. It's a pleasure to be here. Andi Simon: Nori, I have a desire to hear about your story. You told me about it and I stopped reading bios because I think they're helpful, but not necessarily capture the essence of who you are. But today is your story. So tell the listener or the viewer, who is Nori, what's your journey been like, and how does it set up the tale that has gotten us to keeping your seat at the table? Please tell us your story. Nori Jabba: So thank you, Andi, and it's wonderful to be here today. So my story really began when I took six years off to have children, and I'd had a very successful career before that at a utility company as a senior real estate portfolio manager. And I took six years off and had three kids, and I was lucky enough to get a job after six years and went back to work. And then in 2012, that project went on hold. So I decided to become a consultant and consulting was great. It gave me flexibility that I needed. And then after several years of consulting successfully in real estate development, I wanted to go back to work. I wanted to be on a team. I wanted the benefits and the structure that comes with being employed. And I'd had almost 30 years of experience. I'd won awards. I had a wonderfully professional resume and no one would hire me, no one. And so I decided after so many rejections or non-responses that I was going to stop job hunting and start my own company. I'm from Silicon Valley and we start companies. That's what we do. So I thought, no one will hire me, I'll do my own thing and write a book about it. And so that was the birth of the book. And I have a liberal arts background. I love that you're an anthropologist. I took a couple of anthropology courses in college and went to Grinnell College in Iowa and majored in English. So writing comes naturally to me. And so I started writing the book. I joined an incubator program here in Silicon Valley to help me boost the company and hopefully get some seed funding for it. And during that process, we spent a whole lot of time focusing on purpose and drive and making sure we had what it takes to start a company because it is not an easy endeavor. And through that process, I realized I don't really want to start a company, nor do I need to start a company. I want to be a writer. So that's when I stopped with the company, tabled the concept, if you will, and wrote the book, and it was through the journey of writing the book that I actually did get the job that I was looking for. But I like to say that I got my seat back at the table as well, because what I learned through the process is that the table and your seat at the table is much, much more than just a job and success. Andi Simon:Now, when you got the job back, was it in the same career or a different career? Nori Jabba: It was a slight pivot, so it was within the umbrella of community development, but it was in affordable housing, strictly. My background is in real estate development for commercial and residential, but not property management, not affordable housing. Specifically, I had worked on multiple affordable housing projects, but this was just affordable housing. So yeah, it was a pivot. And during the pandemic. Andi Simon: Well, the reason I asked is that in some ways we need a context for your own exploration in your own journey, and I love the fact that it was in urban and community development. You spend time abroad doing this. You're a very successful woman who also found a wall and jumped over the wall. You know, we can talk about glass ceilings, but sometimes brick walls, and we don't quite know what you do to do what? But in many ways, it's them who are trying to build their talent and begin to do something intentional. But why am I not a great fit for that talent? So as you finally moved along, we'll talk about the book in a moment. You got that job and share with us a little bit about the journey to get it, because I have a hunch you stopped selling it the way you used to and you found other ways of getting inside. What was the trick? Nori Jabba: So I wasn't looking anymore. I had resigned myself to just continuing consulting, to give myself time to write the book and research the book. So the book was really the driver. And by not needing the job, by not being desperate is not the right word. I wasn't as hungry. I had that self confidence that I was content and happy with what I was doing and I didn't need the job in order to be fulfilled, and I think that confidence comes through. You know, I was standing taller. I was feeling good about myself. I knew that I was adding value as a consultant, and it was one of my clients that hired me full time. And how I presented myself with that confidence I think is so important. So in my journey, I reached out to one of the managers of a company that rejected me. I came in second. I came in second so many times I can't even tell you. And I asked her, would you have coffee with me? I'm writing a book and I'd love to talk to you about this. And I couldn't believe she said yes, but she said yes. And I drove 60 miles to have coffee with this woman. And, you know, things happen for a reason, because if I had had to drive 60 miles every day to go to a job, it would have done me in any way. So in retrospect, I'm really glad I didn't get that job, but had a wonderful discussion with this woman who had never been asked, Why is it so hard for middle-aged women to get hired? And she fortunately was a middle-aged woman because otherwise I wouldn't have wanted to listen to her had she been in her 20s. But, one of the things she told me was so important and it is that women, older women and older men, too, sometimes stop listening. And when you talk about being a good fit in a company, a good fit means you're going to listen, and what was coming across in my job interviews was that I had lots of value to add, but that I wasn't going to receive. I wasn't going to listen. Maybe it did and it wasn't lost on me. The irony of the moment was because when she told me that I didn't want to listen to her, I slumped back in my chair and thought, I'm doing exactly what she says women my age do. So I sat up straight and leaned in and decided, I'm going to hear what she has to say. I'm really going to listen. And from then on, I became a better listener. And the other thing she told me that was so valuable was that older workers, and men and women are dismissive of younger workers, and the workplace is filled with young people and they have so much value to add. But if you go in there, “I have 30 years of experience, you got to listen to me, that's a stupid idea,” or whatever we say. We can be dismissive of these young people and the value that they add. So I have three daughters. I have from the time they were in preschool, I tried to listen and learn from them every day, something new and taught them to teach and listen to others. And I really feel like this woman told me to listen to young people. My kids teach me new things every day. But what's ironic now and such a wonderful part of this story is that I now have a new job. It's a better fit for me than the one that I got while writing the book. And my boss is decades younger than me. She could in fact be my daughter and I'm not sure I would have been able to accept that had I not done this, the journey and listen to this woman and others in the process of writing the book. So I embrace young people. I value them. My boss is so smart and I learn from her every day and it's a give and take. She learns from me, and I learn from her. But those two things that woman taught me really changed me. And I think it's a big part of why I got my seat back at the table, is being able to listen at work and embrace other young adults. Andi Simon: The listening part is very interesting because as you know, we have a story in our mind that guides what we hear. And the problem that you're articulating is that you crafted this story about who you were and what the skills were you brought and why you would be a good fit in that company as part of their talent acquisition. The problem was, you couldn't hear what they were saying because it was out of sync with what you were thinking, but they also couldn't hear what you were saying because the story you were telling about your accomplishments didn't fit exactly with their expectations or desires for what they were looking for in somebody who would be a comfortable fit in that team in some way. And I emphasize that because it wasn't what you did. It was how the story came across. Am I right? Nori Jabba: That's exactly right. Andi Simon: And listening and hearing are separate because you can try and listen. There's a quote by some admiral that goes something like this: What you think you heard me say, was it what I meant? And it wasn't what I said. I mean, because we just take the pieces apart, so it fits. But your book is a very interesting effort to talk about what you've learned to share with others and in the process to help amplify the message so they don't have as big a struggle to get a table as well as a seat at the table and to really begin to see what you went through in order to be transformed into a different woman. And I don't think your journey is going to end because I think the message is, it will change again and it will change again. So your insights and your wisdom are very important. Tell us how the book came together and what are some of the key themes so that the listener understands why they should buy it and read it, but also what they can learn from it, because I think it's really powerful. Nori Jabba: And so the book really came together as part of the journey. You know, one of the big messages of the book is that we think of success as this line going up. We get a degree or a diploma and there's a straight arrow up to your seat at the table and then you retire and have a pension or whatever. And what the book taught me, what I learned in the journey in writing it, is that it's the journey that's important. It's not the seat at the table. And so it's all about creating your own table of support, and your seat is just one seat at the table. But you need to create your own table with people that you invite to support you. And the idea is that you have one for each chapter in the book, and there are eight chapters, so eight, at least eight seats at the table. You can have the biggest table on the planet and continue to invite people. And these people are your mentors, your coaches. They don't even need to know that they have a seat. They just need to be important to you, people that influence you to get there. But the themes in the book are a play on words. I'm an English major. I love words. I love writing poetry, and I love playing with words. So at the beginning of each chapter, I summarize each chapter in exactly 100 words. And this is a method that I learned from a friend of mine, Grant Faulkner, who runs NaNoWriMo, which is National Novel Writing Month, but he also publishes a book called The 100 Word Story. And so everybody who contributes to the book each year does exactly 100 word stories. So it's a really fun process of thinking and summarizing. So in addition to the 100 word summary at the beginning of each chapter, each chapter is a play on words with the table. So chapter one is flipping the table, and that's identifying your purpose and distinguishing between purpose and legacy and what the difference is and why they're both important. Chapter two is clearing the table, and that's getting rid of everything that's holding you back. Clearing the clutter. Real clutter. In my case, it's real clutter because I can't get started when I'm surrounded by clutter. I've got to clean the house before I start writing or accomplishing whatever it is I want to do. But also what's holding you back, not believing in yourself. And that is a really, really important takeaway is, you have to believe in yourself and have that self confidence. The next chapter is reinforcing the table, and that's about building strength in body, mind and spirit. And you can't have a seat at the table if the table is going to tip over or isn't strong enough. So it's about strength. And the next one is sitting at the head of the table, and that's about feeling empowered and feeling just really confident and how to get that back and looking at how you show up and getting rid of that anxiety about, Did I say the right thing? Did I do the right thing? And I look, do I look right? It's all about how you show up and just feeling really good about yourself. The next one is not getting pulled under the table. And what I realized was that a big reason that I lost my seat at the table was because I had all of these things weighing so heavily in my life. And in my case, it was my aging parents, my mom in particular, and I was a consultant and I had a big client and I wasn't there for my client. I couldn't do it because I had to downsize my mom and move her in her time of crisis and literally drop everything. And that can happen if you're an employee. It's even harder because how much time can you take off to deal with that? But it's about facing the future, facing those fears and in my case, my mom and dealing with her. It was a volcano ready to erupt. I knew I was going to have to face it at some time and I just thought, oh, I'll deal with it when I get there. So this chapter is about planning and preparing, and it's also about aging and looking at ourselves as we age and doing it, figuring out a plan on how we want to age and how to get there gracefully and strongly. And the next is not tabling yourself. And that's about being relevant and listening, as I pointed out, and embracing young people. But in British English, because I used to live in England, it's also about tabling yourself straight away. They say it in the opposite way, so I cover that in the book in case it makes it to the UK, which I hope it does and leveraging what you bring to the table is the next chapter, and that's about owning your experience. So, as an older woman, I am taught to take those dates off my resume. Don't you dare let somebody know you graduated in the 1980s or 90s. I call BS on that. I say, You own it. You put your chin up and stand tall and you own it. But you have to do it with balance and vulnerability and a give and take. So that's what that chapter is about. And then the last one is leaning on the table. And I credit Sheryl Sandberg with Lean In. I read her book and have a side story on that because I had a client the next day that was expecting a proposal. I read Sheryl's book the night before, and as an experiment I took my price that I was going to submit and I doubled it because Cheryl told me to. And guess what? I thought the worst that can happen is they say no or we negotiate down like, Why don't I do this all the time? They said yes, they didn't even negotiate. So it was a really valuable experience in valuing myself. And not undervaluing myself. But my chapter here is about leaning on as well as leaning in because we can't do it alone. So it's about creating strategic partnerships at your table. And so that's the book and the final word is, once you've done all that, you get up on the table and dance. Andi Simon: The metaphor is very important, though. We have to see something. Remember, I started out by saying, I want you to see, feel and think about it before you can actually do it.  And when you listen to it, Nori, put your book up there so we can see the cover. Perfect. It's actually building a table that you're sitting on with a bunch of folks who are going to be your teammates at this table. I think that all of us trying to move into business or non-profits or communities are all navigating the challenges of rocky roads, trying to find our path. And I emphasize that because some people who are leaving to have children are going to have a rocky time as well. And those who are coming back aren't quite sure how to re-enter. And the companies aren't necessarily helpful on either stage, either giving you time for having kids and raising them or for thinking about how to prepare for the reentry. So you're ready for that reentry. And there's no reason why they can't align with you instead of abandoning you. You know, this is a really interesting piece to this or to help train you. I mean, you went through the self-discovery, sounds like through trial and error as opposed to having a mentor to begin with. And even a mentor wouldn't necessarily be cool. Nori Jabba: It was really about self-care because I was feeling my esteem slip and that's a slippery slope that is not going to help you get a job if you're not feeling good about yourself. So all of the rejections and non-responses would just be debilitating. So the book was really self-care to stop and try to understand what's really going on here. And I felt like I had this duty to myself and other women to really understand, is ageism real? Is it me? And the answer is yes, ageism is real, but it's also me. We also have to stand back and take a look at ourselves and what we really bring to the table and how we're presenting ourselves and listening and learning and being vulnerable. I love Brené Brown and the vulnerability book and her whole message about vulnerability is strength and you can't grow without being vulnerable. Andi Simon: Being in a consulting business myself, I've been in business for 22 years, and it's a different experience because I was in corporate for 20 years and I was a professor for ten years. And they are all different experiences, truly different. You know, they're like foreign countries to each other. And yet I knew I was an anthropologist. I wasn't doing it, and people weren't quite sure what that meant or how to capitalize on it. So they imposed upon me what they needed. And my job was to manufacture the right answers and solutions to solve it and to thrive. I was EVP of a bank, SVP of another bank and an executive in healthcare systems. But I'm thinking about your stories because I remember at one point I had that epiphany that it really wasn't about what I needed or did or how I could help. It was what they needed and how they saw me and where they put you at that table and what role they wanted you to play, including being the only woman at that table, which is a whole story unto itself. The ageism thing, though, is extremely important because we're living longer, growing older, and we're beginning to work ourselves with senior living communities and try to begin to see elders as older adults, not as seniors, but with tremendous growth potential for them. Why not, and why not do so with some real important changes coming? When you were a consultant, though, apart from the fact that you weren't necessarily happy, it sounds like you were very successful. Nori Jabba: I loved consulting. I really did. I just wanted to have the benefits and be on a team truly, because when I was a consultant, I would have clients and I was on a team, but I really wasn't. I was kind of the outsider and I missed that. I missed it. So I really wanted to have that camaraderie and go back to just having that everyday interaction with people. You know how it works when you're at work, you go to somebody's office or cubicle and you have a side chat about something and they teach you something about Excel that you had no idea about. As a consultant, you don't get those opportunities for those little bits of information and learning and connection. And so it was really about connection. And I had over 40 clients in my time as a consultant, and I still have the business. It's just dormant at the moment. But I really did like it. I just wanted to go back to I wanted more. I want to do well. I was tired of billing at the end of the month and spending my weekends doing the administration for the business. Andi Simon: I love what you said. On the other hand, when I left corporate, I was thrilled to launch my business. And I remember my PR firm that I hired. I said, I need a PR firm. Who am I? And they said, Well, you're a corporate anthropologist that helps companies change. And I said, that's exactly correct. And I haven't deviated from that at all in 22 years. But it was interesting that in some ways I had had enough of all of the complexity of the teamwork. You know, when you're an executive, I had thousands of people and HR was my least favorite area because it was so complicated all the time. But this is so interesting, Nori, as you look forward, as you're looking at your book and looking forward, you have some interesting ideas about how to engage people in their process of literal transformation. You want to share it with them because I think it's a great way to take a book and make it come alive. What are your thoughts? Nori Jabba: Yeah. So it's really for all ages, even though the book is geared towards middle aged women because that's what I am, it's really for men too. And want to point out that men play such an important part of my journey. The book is dedicated to my dad. When you read the book and you see the partners at my table and who's there, a lot of them are men, so it's by no means just a book by women for women about women. It's for men as well. And about men as well. But it's really about those eight steps. You know, it's really about finding your purpose and figuring out what it is. And it doesn't need to be the overall purpose of your reason you're on the planet. It can just be your purpose right now. And as you know, you change in life and your purpose is going to change and that's okay too. So if you can't figure out your overarching purpose, I say pick a purpose that works for you right now. So it's those eight steps of stepping back, building your confidence, being strong, figuring out how to stay strong for the rest of your life, embracing young and old and being relevant. You know, don't be that person, that woman, that man that said, how many times have I been in a meeting where some older person has said, I'm too old for that. I'm too old to learn that, I need a young person to do it. You know, it's great that we embrace the young people to do it, but in my book, I really stress how important it is to learn those new skills and technologies or you're going to be left behind. And this is important for life skills, not just keeping your seat at the table at work or just to be relevant in your job. The world is changing so fast with AI and technology that if you don't keep up, you will be left behind. You know, my mom is in her late 80s now and she has a smartphone and so many seniors just can't figure out how to use them. But I'm proud of my mom because she not only has a smartphone, she uses WhatsApp because WhatsApp is the best way to keep in touch with my twin sister who lives in Europe. And texting doesn't work because you have to pay overseas costs and all of that. So we had to teach my mom how to use this app and she does it every day. So just keeping those skills up and not being afraid of learning the new technologies is so important and just staying relevant and empowering yourself and leaning on others and having those partnerships. So it's really quite simple as those eight steps. And it applies to everybody at any age. Andi Simon: I think this is wonderful, not a how-to book, but a “what I learned and want to share with you” book and I think the insights are relevant and timely. And regardless of what your age is, I do think that it is a journey and you need to be reflective about where I am, where I'm going? And also the fact that you got to keep growing. You need a growth mindset. You can't get fixed and you don't need an excuse. So it's very, very powerful. What I wanted to talk about a little bit is what can other people do? You had mentioned they can write their stories. They can begin to explore. I love it when people send me their stories for my book or my blogs. They want to share them. What are you thinking about? Nori Jabba: So I am writing a second book and actually I'm not writing it. Everybody else is writing it. I'm compiling a second book, which is other people's stories about their journeys and their seats at the table. So I invite your listeners to go to my website, which is keepingyourseat.com and submit your story, or just contact me. We can have coffee, you can have a Zoom call. I want to hear your story because so many people have been through this and it's so valuable to share our journeys. Andi Simon: Well, I love that because this is a collaboration now. And what you're going to find is that you are not alone. They are not either. And then the next book comes out as a joint effort of all of us to help each other celebrate our insights, our wisdoms, and where we're going and how it can be really help you propel yourself in difficult times because nobody was there to say to you, you don't have to be so structured, so frustrated. You know, you're not the first person, but this is how you might get around it. Nori Jabba: Yeah, absolutely. In fact, I heard when I interviewed one woman who ran this organization called Nova Works, she told me that the average woman of age 50 has to submit 500 resumes before they land a job. 500. And don't know if that's an actual corroborated number, but it was enough to scare me. I'd probably submitted 150 and was completely debilitated. And she just kind of patted me on the shoulder and said, Honey, you have a long way to go, and that's just not okay with me. So that is just not acceptable. So I thought, we've got to change this. And so the book is a movement to try to change that. And I do think that HR directors and HR teams really need to focus on ageism and what they can do to be more inclusive and set some policies because ageism is alive and well and yes, we can do something on our part, but we also need corporations to embrace aging as well, and make it a positive, not a negative. It's like, you know, having children is a negative. Why is it a negative? Don't we want to build a healthy, happy next generation? Andi Simon: We're just about ready to wrap this up. 1 or 2 things you want to make sure that the listeners remember and the viewers can recall. And, you know, what's your last thoughts to share? Nori Jabba: So three things you need to build your own table. Forget about getting that seat or keeping that seat. It's really about keeping your own seat at your own table that you build for yourself. Two: You can't do it alone. You've got to lean on others. And so think about who's at that table with you. Who's at your table? I even have a mug that says, Who's at your table? And then three: believe in yourself. It's really about believing in yourself and loving your voice, loving what you bring to the table and knowing that you add value. And share your story with me. Go to keepingyourseat.com, please. I want to hear from you. And my book is available on Amazon and Barnes and Noble as well. Andi Simon: Nori, it has been a pleasure talking to you. I will share with our listeners and our viewers the book, and this is a very exciting time for new books. Our book is called Women Mean Business: Over 500 Insights from Extraordinary Leaders to Spark Your Success. I wrote it with Edie Fraser and Robyn Spizman, two extraordinary women. And I love sharing it because, like Nori, what I want to do is take these wisdoms and make them accessible to you to amplify the voices of these women, as well as to show you the path for you. So, Nori, as soon as it comes out in September, I'll make sure you have a copy. I can't wait. Nori Jabba: I can't wait to read it. Andi Simon: This is a beautiful book and I love Maria Carluccio's quote. She has seven children and runs a $1 billion company and does some fabulous things. Some of the quotes are wonderful. Christie Hefner's in there and Lilly Ledbetter. I love Susan Healy, being at the top doesn't mean having all the answers. It's learning how to get those answers. And in some ways, your story is a bunch of wonderful stories just like that. So our book comes out September 26th. Pre-orders are available now. But it is time for us to share our exploration book of writing. I love your idea of 100 words capturing the essence of it. It's a really terrific story. I know for all of you who came today to join us, thank you. Share our stories with your friends and begin to tell us about what more you'd like. I get great emails from across the globe who love the podcast. Remember, we're in the top 5% of podcasts globally, and that is no small feat because that's because everybody who's on it shares it and likes to listen. And I love to hear from you. So with that in mind, I am going to wish you a wonderful day. Nori, thank you so much for joining me. Nori Jabba: Thank you, Andi. Andi Simon: Goodbye now.

Lilly Ledbetter made a fateful decision to challenge pay equity—and women everywhere have benefited from it. This Women's History Month, she tells her incredible story firsthand on Bernstein's Women & Wealth. Hear who supported her, where she found courage and why she just couldn't let it go. Go to https://www.bernstein.com/our-insights/women-and-wealth.html for the full virtual event with this fair pay icon. Note to All Readers: The information contained here reflects the views of AllianceBernstein L.P. or its affiliates and sources it believes are reliable as of the date of this podcast. AllianceBernstein L.P. makes no representations or warranties concerning the accuracy of any data. There is no guarantee that any projection, forecast or opinion in this material will be realized. Past performance does not guarantee future results. The views expressed here may change at any time after the date of this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute investment advice. AllianceBernstein L.P. does not provide tax, legal or accounting advice. It does not take an investor's personal investment objectives or financial situation into account; investors should discuss their individual circumstances with appropriate professionals before making any decisions. This information should not be construed as sales or marketing material or an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument, product or service sponsored by AllianceBernstein or its affiliates. The [A/B] logo is a registered service mark of AllianceBernstein, and AllianceBernstein® is a registered service mark, used by permission of the owner, AllianceBernstein L.P. © 2023 AllianceBernstein L.P.

"Young girl, you'll be a woman soon, and then have a job where you're paid only 88 cents to the dollar of a man" or however the song goes. Women in the United States earn less money than men and strictly because we're women, and though Equal Pay Day has come and gone, equal pay is not a thing in the United States and many factors inform this injustice. And who has it worse than anyone? Well, join me as I deep dive into the US gender wage gap and find out the dirty details of this American injustice; learn why equal pay is a dream, a wish your heart makes, cause at the rate we're going we shall not see it in reality. Works cited and used: Wikipedia entry "Equal Pay Act of 1963"; WAPT 16 ABC "Mississippi Black Women's Roundtable calling for equal pay law" online article February 8, 2022; National Partnership for Women and Families press statement, April 11, 2016, "The Gender Wage Gap Costs America's Women Nearly $500 Billion Per Year, New Equal Pay Day Study Finds" and Fact Sheet of March 2021 "Paid Leave Will Help Close the Gender Wage Gap"; WH.Gov "Fact Sheet: National Strategy on Gender Equity and Equality," issued on October 22, 2021; IWPR.org policy brief issued March 2021 "The Gender Wage Gap by Occupation, Race and Ethnicity 2020"; Marc Benioff for Time Magazine "Thank you, Lilly Ledbetter" published April 12, 2016; Anne Branigan for the Washington Post, "Equal Pay Day falls earlier this year. Here's what to know" published March 15, 2022; Kristin Roe-Finkbeiner for Time Magazine, "This Equal Pay Day, let's smash the maternal wall" published March 15, 2022; and Center for American Progress, “Women of Color and the Wage Gap," published on November 17, 2021; --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Before 70 Over 70 goes on hiatus, Max sits down again with the person who inspired the show, his dad Marty, to talk about what he has learned from these conversations and what he hopes will stick with listeners.  Thank you to the more than 70 people over 70 who helped make this show possible:  Alice Waters, André De Shields, Anna Fisher, Dr. Anthony Fauci, Arlene Heyman, Arthur Russell, Austin Sarat, Barney Frank, Bertha Riley, Dr. Bessel Van Der Kolk, Betty Goedhart, Beverly Glenn-Copeland, Bob Iger, Carolyn Doelling, Dan Rather, Darryl Cox, David Crosby, Deanna Gobio, Diana Nyad, Diane Meier, Diedre Wolownick, Dionne Warwick, Dolores Huerta, Donalda MacGeachy, Evelyn Griesse, George Pettigrew, Gloria Allen, Greg O'Brien, Sister Helen Prejean, Howard Kakita, Jackie Batson, James Hong, Jim Clyburn, Father Joe Carey, Dr. Joycelyn Elders, Judith Light, Konai Helu Thaman, Krishnamurthy, Dr. Laverene Wimberly, Liliana Weisbek, Lillian Faderman, Lilly Ledbetter, Lucia DeRespinis, Lois Lowry, Lynn Staley, Madeleine Albright, Maira Kalman, Marty Linsky, Mavis Staples, Michio Kaku, Miriam Moss, Nikki Giovanni, Norman Lear, Paul Price, Paula Weinstein, Peter Leighton, Phyllis Irwin, Raffi, Renata Adler, Russell Banks, Sandy Levin, Scott Kalin, Shirley Ross, Sid Moss, Sjanna Leighton, Steven Berman, Susan Lucci, Timothy Fullam, Tom Locke, Travis Mayes, Twiggy, William Locke Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Phyllis Irwin and Lillian Faderman share the story of how a legal loophole allowed them to create the life they had always dreamed of. Then Max talks with Lilly Ledbetter about the amazing story behind the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, how a single moment in her 60s led her to become a prominent activist in her 70s and 80s and why her fight for equal pay is far from over.  --  Know someone who should be on 70 Over 70? We're looking for all types of stories and people to feature at the top of the show. To nominate yourself or someone else, email 70over70@pineapple.fm or call 302-659-7070 and tell us your name, age, where you're from and what you want to talk about. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We're glad to welcome Cassandra Welchlin, Executive Director of the Mississippi Black Women's Roundtable and consultant Jennifer Riley Collins. We'll be taking about their efforts to promote equitable pay, healthcare, and workforce justice in Mississippi. MS Black Women's Roundtable https://msbwr.org/ Jennifer Riley Collins consulting https://www.jrileycollinsconsulting.com/Equal Pay Hearing - Held by the Senate Labor Committe 09/29/2021 9am Mississippi State Capital Room 216 Lilly Ledbetter will address the hearing.Here is the hearing link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRZT68uO6aw&ab_channel=MississippiLegislatureWatch the live steam: http://www.legislature.ms.gov/ or find the YouTube video afterward: https://www.youtube.com/c/MississippiLegislature/videosRegister to vote in Mississippi: https://www.sos.ms.gov/elections-voting/voter-registration-information See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Having that ability to have confidence in oneself and to surround yourself with the best possible people to fulfill your dream is super important. Rachel Feldman is the director and screenwriter, and currently in pre-production, of Lilly, a political thriller to star Oscar-nominated Patricia Clarkson and Emmy-nominated Thomas Sadoski, based on the remarkable life of Fair Pay icon, Lilly Ledbetter. Rachel has spent her life working on incredible projects, fulfilling a lot of her passions, but also taking a hard look into women's issues in Hollywood as well. Today, she's going to share with us how she got around the system and figure out how to connect with Hollywood people to play the characters. Here are some power takeaways from today's conversation: Rachel's background in the movie industry How she got to make a movie about Lilly How Meryl Streep became the “godmother” of the Lilly movie The challenge of raising money How her team got formed and how the movie is coming together A look into Lilly Ledbetter's very inspiring story Episode Highlights: Getting the Rights to Make the Lilly Movie At the Democratic Convention, this Alabama woman came out to speak about her plight being an Alabama tire factory supervisor, and how she had been cheated on a salary. From that point on, she decided to track down her story. She wanted to get the rights to the movie, but she didn't get it initially. Four years later, she approached Lilly's lawyer again and she finally got the rights. She promised them to live, eat, breathe and sleep the story until she had gotten it made. Nine years later, she has kept that promise and they're about to go into production. Having the Confidence to Reach Out Not having huge connections in Hollywood, Rachel mustered up the courage and confidence to send Meryl Streep a letter. She turned down the role, but she offered Rachel the help she needed and connected her to people that eventually led her to find her actors for the movie. The Challenge of Raising Money And so, this has been a nine-year journey for Rachel. She contacted tons of people for support and she was turned down over and over, until she met a fellow who has produced over 50 independent films, which means he has raised millions of dollars to make those moviesand was willing to work with her. She then touched base with her high school friend who helped her raise the seed capital. Moreover, they created an impact campaign that will accompany this film and they're raising money not only through equity, but also through donations. All this is increasing the dialogue and the conversation on the pressure and the impact happening in corporate America for women on so many levels. Links to Resources: Go to www.lillymovie.com to find out how you can take part in this movement. Grace and Grit by Lilly Ledbetter https://www.amazon.com/Grace-Grit-Fairness-Goodyear-Beyond-ebook/dp/B00540NVQQ www.SharpeAlliance.com www.TheReinventionExchange.com RE:INVENT YOUR LIFE! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? Available on Amazon Books and Apple Books THE POWER OF REINVENTION Podcast on Apple, Google, Spotify, Anchor and more...

Kate shares the story of Lilly Ledbetter and the film she is helping put together about Lilly's life, talks about what it's like to run partnerships at some of the largest film festivals in the world and Jason and Kate decide that she is the second greatest number 12 athlete to ever come from the New England area."Let it all happen."Kate's role  as SVP of partnership development +Rise and Head of Partnerships at Fyli combines her expertise in conceptualizing strategic partnerships that drive brand reputation and business growth opportunities, with her passion for human rights. She has over 16 years of experience in experiential marketing strategy and strategic partnerships within the entertainment, CPG, finance, luxury and spirits sectors. Her core strength is a keen eye for envisioning the potential intersections of partnerships rooted in substance that bring the brand to life in meaningful ways through experiential marketing, content creation, and bespoke opportunities. Kate has developed programs for some of the world's most recognized events such as the Tribeca Film Festival, Comicon, SXSW, CES, Miami Art Basel and Art Miami, and has implemented marketing strategies and initiatives for brands and agencies such as LOUIS XIII, Showtime, YouTube, AMC, NBC, Turner, HBO, HULU, Paramount, Google, Citibank, The Macallan, Bulgari, Samsung, Adidas, VISA, American Express, L'Oréal, Morgan Stanley, DIAGEO, Rogers and Cowan PMK, Grey, UM, Deutsch and Omnicom. https://www.facebook.com/kate.kelley.12https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelleykate/ https://www.instagram.com/, lillymovie.comEnjoying the podcast? Please tell your friends, give us a shoutout and a follow on social media, and take a moment to leave us a review at https://lovethepodcast.com/talkingtocoolpeople.Find the show at all of the cool spots below.WebsiteFacebookInstagramIf something from this or any episode has sparked your interest and you'd like to connect about it, please email us at podcast@jasonfrazell.com. We love hearing from our listeners!If you are interested in being a guest on the show, please visit jasonfrazell.com/podcast and click on the “Learn More” button at the bottom of the page.

Amy interviews Jyoti (pronounced Jothee) in this Inspired Conversation. This conversation touches on Jyoti's amazing experience and how she built on her experience as a senior level global marketing executive with major studios and blue chip brands into creating, developing and starting her media company Nimble Media LLC. She has leveraged her past into becoming producer and co-executive producer of award winning documentaries such as AND SHE COULD BE NEXT and Equal Means Equal. With upcoming projects about Equal Pay Icon, Lilly Ledbetter and also Black Barbie, supporting other storytellers and spotlighting stories to elevate the topics close to her heart. We talk about how she's leveraged her passion into her projects and how some projects ignite a new passion. We also cover what happens when you get into deep listening and what unfolds when you get out of your own agenda for a story to let the story unfold. Jyoti is bound to inspire you with her journey. Learn. Create. Thrive. www.AmySchuber.com

Invest In Her host Catherine Gray talks with Director, Writer, and Filmmaker Rachel Feldman about her passion project “LILLY.” A political thriller based on the remarkable life of Lilly Ledbetter, the woman who President Obama named his first piece of legislation regarding equal pay for women. Academy Award Nominee, and Golden Globe Winner, the magnificent Patricia Clarkson, will play the role. ⁠ Join us on Facebook LIVE every Wednesday at NOON PT @SheAngelInvestors. Subscribe on Apple Podcast https://apple.co/3citN1I, Spotify https://spoti.fi/2ZUrFZc, or wherever podcasts are available!

In 2012, Mark Barden's son Daniel was killed in a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. He talks about the frustrations he faces in his advocacy. And, data shows women earn 82% of men's annual earnings on average. Equal pay advocate Lilly Ledbetter and Fatima Goss Graves of the National Women's Law Center discuss how to close the wage gap.

This episode of the Winning Season podcast features guest co-host, Cheryl Monroe and host Jacqueline Twillie in conversation about the complexity of the equal payday. Today's conversation highlights: Why there are multiple equal paydays The questions surrounding women working in low wages jobs as well as part-time jobs The equal pay act of 1963 Lilly Ledbetter's struggle for equal pay Jacqueline's focus on solving the wage gap through leadership and negotiation Additional resources to learn about equal pay day For more information visit www.zerogap.co --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/winningseason/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/winningseason/support

Rachel Feldman tells about what it's like to be a female director in Hollywood and about her new screenplay "LILLY," a political thriller which tells the personal story of fair pay icon Lilly Ledbetter who took her case against Good Year Tire Company to the Supreme Court and to Congress to get the fair pay act passed in 2009.

In honor of Women's History month, AJ & Amelie talk about women's FINANCIAL history. They go through a timeline of women's financial rights and highlight some incredible women that have made huge impacts on women and money throughout history. From Maggie Walker to Lilly Ledbetter to Suze Orman to Oprah, tune in to hear the stories of some truly badass women!   TW: Sexual assault and rape discussed   You can find all our offerings at www.beyondthegreencoaching.com and you can follow us @beyondthegreencoaching on instagram.   Andrea Napchan - Logo https://andreanapchan.com/ Adam Goldstein - Music https://soundcloud.com/vintagegold123/current-waveform Mariah Marasco - Graphics https://www.mariah-marasco.com/ Patrick Garrett Pavesi- Website https://patrickgpavesi.com 

"We’ve not overcome the perception that women should be paid less because they need less – that's not true," says Lilly Ledbetter, activist, the namesake of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, and this week's guest. She and Jeff sit down to discuss her fight from undervalued Goodyear manager to pay equity icon. Along the way, they discuss how to negotiate salary, equal pay for equal work, how companies can make swift, effective change, and so much more. After spending 19 years working for Goodyear, of tire and blimp fame, Lilly discovered she was making 40% less than the white men doing the same exact job she was. The thought of how much money this had cost her and her family left her devastated. For Lilly, "I knew it wasn't right. It was not the law. I couldn't let it go." So she filed a charge with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, and her case made it all the way to the US Supreme Court. And that's only the beginning of her storied career. She and Jeff also discuss how the modern workplace is handling equal pay. Spoiler Alert: Lilly says, "Not as good as it should." The Equal Pay Act was passed in 1963 and was supposed to eliminate wage discrimination from then on. "Well, it didn't," says Lilly. "Because it wasn't enforced." She and Jeff dig into why that is and what Human Resource teams can do to ensure everyone is equally paid across the board. “My goal in life is to make a difference.” And Lilly truly has. This is a conversation not to miss! Learn more about Lilly: http://www.lillyledbetter.com/ Follow Jeff: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjmiller/ Follow Cornerstone: https://twitter.com/CornerstoneInc https://www.instagram.com/cornerstoneondemand/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/cornerstone-ondemand/ https://www.facebook.com/csodcommunity/

(2/12/21) Freida Lee Mock’s new documentary Ruth: Justice Ginsburg in her Own Words is the story of how Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who couldn’t get a job despite tying first in her graduating law class, became one of the most consequential Supreme Court justices of the century. In this installment of Leonard Lopate at Large on WBAI, Freida is joined by Lilly Ledbetter of the landmark Supreme Court decision on pay equality Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. and former member of the Virginia House of Delegates Jennifer Carroll Foy.

HR Labs is back! In season 3, new hosts Duane La Bom and Jeff Miller explore how to turn your diversity, equity, and inclusion strategies into meaningful actions and outcomes. Subscribe today to never miss an episode.   Duane, chief diversity officer at Cornerstone, and Jeff, chief learning officer and VP of organizational effectiveness at Cornerstone, aren’t shying away from discussing the challenging, uncomfortable topics facing businesses today. Season 3 is dedicated to building an informed understanding of what it takes to build a better organization for everyone through meaningful diversity, equity, inclusion – and belonging – practices.   According to Jeff, “We aren’t saying we have all the answers here. But if there’s one thing we know at Cornerstone, it’s that learning is a critical part of growing and driving change.”   Duane and Jeff aren’t undertaking this DEI conversation on their own, though. They brought a few friends, industry experts, activists, and thought leaders on this journey too. Friends like:   Torin Ellis — human capital strategist speaker, author, radio and podcast host — talking about recognizing and defeating unconscious bias.  Ella Washington Ph.D. — organizational psychologist at Georgetown University’s McDonough School of Business — talking about responding to micro- (and not so micro-) aggressions.  Lilly Ledbetter — equal pay activist and inspiration for the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009 — talking about ensuring equal pay for all.  Lorraine Vargas Townsend — chief people guru at A Cloud Guru — talking about building a culture of DEI 24/7/365. And many more!   Join Duane and Jeff every other week for meaningful conversations on how to move your DEI strategies forward.   Duane put it best when he said, “No matter where you and your company are on the DEI journey, we hope you’ll join us for stories and insights as we look to take this work from intention to impact.”  SUBSCRIBE HERE:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hr-labs/id1482283780   Follow Duane:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/duane-la-bom/   Follow Jeff: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjmiller/   Follow Cornerstone: https://www.instagram.com/cornerstoneondemand/   https://www.linkedin.com/company/cornerstone-ondemand/   https://www.facebook.com/csodcommunity/   https://twitter.com/CornerstoneInc  

Jyoti Sarda brings twenty years as a senior-level global marketing executive with major studios and blue chip brands to developing impact-creating, documentary and narrative content through her company Nimble Media LLC. Currently, she is the producer of the award winning POV (PBS) documentary series, AND SHE COULD BE NEXT, following  the movement led by women of color transform politics as candidates and organizers. Her next project is the feature film around the life of Lilly Ledbetter, fair pay icon. She is also Co-Executive Producer of EQUAL MEANS EQUAL, an award-winning documentary feature that is an unflinching examination of the discrimination against women built into the US legal system. Until 2016, Jyoti was Vice President of Marketing at Paramount Home Media where she led all facets of global marketing operations for Paramount partner brands, while overseeing international acquisitions. Prior to Paramount, she worked at Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment. Jyoti serves on the boards of GlobalGirl Media, an organization that trains young women to become civically engaged through citizen journalism and LAANE, a leading LA-based social justice nonprofit.  She is intently focused on improving the diversity of elected officials and the electorate. Also, PBS opened up a free streaming window for my documentary AND SHE COULD BE NEXT given the relevance of our story to yesterday's election in GA.  Your listeners can watch it for free until January 24 at andshecouldbenext.com/watch or on the PBS app on smart TVs. Social handles are Twitter @jyotimsarda IG @jyotipie FB www.facebook.com/JyotiSarda On the episode: On this episode of Sell Without Selling, Stacey welcomes Jyoti Sarda to the show for a discussion on transitioning from a comfortable life at a 'perfectly fine" corporate job... to taking the leap into entrepreneurism. Key Takeaways: Make a plan, but then take the leap. You must set your own expectations. Fear doesn't own you. Tweetable Quotes: "Growing up... security and safety were valued more than the potential rewards of entrepreneurship." -Jyoti Sarda "We can no longer deny that radical change is happening in how we do business." -Stacey O'Byrne "Strategizing is important, but you will get to a point where you have to take a deep breath... and do it." -Jyoti Sarda Jyoti Sarda: Connect with and find out more about Jyoti: https://twitter.com/jyotimsarda (Twitter @jyotimsarda) Resources: Instagram: @pivotpointadvantage Schedule a 15 minute call with Stacey:http://pivotpointadvantage.com/talktostacey ( http://pivotpointadvantage.com/talktostacey) If you’re ready to take yourself and your business to the next level and are interested in a coaching program that will get you there check out:http://pivotpointadvantage.com/iwantsuccess ( http://pivotpointadvantage.com/iwantsuccess)  Join an interactive environment to help you build the success you’ve always wanted with other like-minded, success-driven entrepreneurs, business owners, and sales professionals:https://facebook.com/groups/sellwithoutselling ( https://facebook.com/groups/sellwithoutselling)  

The Supreme Court has played a major role in shaping the South. Depending on its ideological center, SCOTUS has protected Southern governments or has intervened on behalf of vulnerable communities. Fred Smith, a professor at Emory Law, details landmark decisions in the South and major cases looming on the horizon. Lilly Ledbetter knows what it's like to lose a case before the Supreme Court, she shares her story and lessons for maintaining hope in the face of setbacks. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

American icon Lilly Ledbetter discusses the act that bears her name, its real world impact and her legacy. Bonus interview with Workspan’s new managing editor, Mark McGraw.

We discuss the legacy of RBG, previous guest Lilly Ledbetter, and round out the trifecta of female icons by speaking with Judy Shepard, founding president of the Matthew Shepard Foundation, on her inspiring work championing social justice, diversity awareness and education, and equality for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

American icon Lilly Ledbetter discusses the act that bears her name, its real world impact and her legacy. Bonus interview with Workspan’s new managing editor, Mark McGraw.

March 31st, 2020 is Equal Pay Day. This date symbolizes how far into the year women must work to earn what men earned in the previous year. Katica Roy, a gender economist and the CEO and founder of Pipeline, joins Sophia to break this all down. Katica shares her own story of what happened when she found out she was being paid less than her male counterparts, explains the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, the implications of the lack of gender equity in newsrooms, the steps we need to take to finally close the pay gap, and more. Executive Producers: Sophia Bush & Sim SarnaSupervising Producer: Allison BresnickAssociate Producer: Caitlin LeeEditors: Josh Windisch and Matt SasakiMusic written by Jack Garratt and produced by Mark FosterArtwork by Kimi SelfridgeThis show is brought to you by Cloud10 & Brilliant Anatomy, and powered by Simplecast.This episode is sponsored by Liquid I.V. and Third Love.

We report on Gov. Kay Ivey kicking off a ballot initiative surrounding her push for an appointed state school board. We’re joined by Speaker of the House Mac McCutcheon, who will discuss his support for the school board bill. McCutcheon also looks ahead to a possible special legislative session on prisons. And we also talk with Rep. Adline Clarke of Mobile about the governor signing into law her equal pay legislation. Clarke is joined by Alabama’s Lilly Ledbetter, the namesake of a federal equal pay law and Clarke’s inspiration for the state bill.

Show Credit: WERA-FM, 96.7|Show Title: When Women Succeed, America Succeeds https://enlightenmeonwera.com/2016/10/26/10-26-16-when-women-succeed-america-succeeds/ What would happen with a feminist in the White House? or, How would women go about getting the fair pay we truly deserve? And even after the election — Our children. How have they been affected by this presidential election? On today’s program i’ll revisit these topics with Lily Eskelsen Garcia, President of the National Education Association, Doreen Mattingly, Author of A Feminist in the White House and Lilly Ledbetter, namesake of the Lilly Ledbetter fair pay act. Enlighten Me Wednesday 4-5p ET WERA-FM 96.7|@EnlightenMeWERA Enlighten Me is a news talk program that aims to educate and inform. From historical perspectives to modern day stories, we will focus our attention on the issues that everyone deals with — be it policy, health, education, the economy, current events and race. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/enlighten-me/support

April 2nd is Equal Pay Day, a day that focuses on the gender pay gap and income inequality. We chatted with Lilly Ledbetter, an equal pay activist who pioneered the Fair Pay Act of 2009 under the Obama Administration. TicToc is a daily news podcast hosted by Alexis Benveniste (@apbenven), produced at Bloomberg Worldwide HQ in New York City. You can follow up with us and watch our reporting @tictoc. If you like it, be sure to rate us on iTunes, and tell your friends!

Lilly Ledbetter worked as a manager for Goodyear for almost 20 years— not knowing that she was paid a fraction of her male counterparts. She fought, won, lost, kept fighting, and ultimately helped to get a law passed that helps people get pay equity.

Show credit from WERA-FM 96.7|Show Title: Pay Me What You Owe Me| https://enlightenmeonwera.com/2016/09/14/09-14-16-pay-me-what-you-owe-me/ The report from the Census bureau on Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States showed wages between men and women have stayed the same since pre-recession times (2007). That’s almost 10 years! (White)Women’s wages currently stand at 80% of what a man makes…the statistics are worse for Black, Latino and Asian women. I talked to Lilly Ledbetter, the namesake of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act President Obama signed into office as the first piece of legislation of his administration. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/enlighten-me/support

At the age of 85, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has developed a breathtaking legal legacy while becoming an unexpected pop culture icon. But without a definitive Ginsburg biography, the unique personal journey of this diminutive, quiet warrior's rise to the nation's highest court has been largely unknown, even to some of her biggest fans – until now. RBG is a revelatory documentary exploring Ginsburg 's exceptional life and career from Betsy West and Julie Cohen, and co-produced by Storyville Films and CNN Films. DIRECTED AND PRODUCED BY Betsy West and Julie Cohen WATCH the trailer! STARRING...Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Jane and James Ginsburg, Clara Spera, Gloria Steinem, Nina Totenberg, Lilly Ledbetter, Sharron Frontiero and Stephen Wiesenfeld, Irin Carmon and Shana Knizhnik, Bill Clinton, Ted Olson, Judge Harry Edwards, Senator Orrin Hatch, Eugene Scalia and Bryant Johnson

There was a brief moment 150 years ago when it looked like women might get equal pay for equal work. But they didn't—and that set the standard for decades to come. On this episode of the Pay Check, Rebecca Greenfield revisits a Civil War-era sex scandal that set the stage for the pay gap debates we're having right now. She talks to Claire Suddath about how a century of rules and laws saying what women can and can't do have made it easy for companies to pay women less.  One big reason the gender pay gap still exists is because of a phenomenon called "occupational sorting"— the idea that some jobs are dominated by women, and those jobs often pay less. That didn't just happen. Claire and Rebecca sort through how history determined the market value for women. Then Claire talks with Lilly Ledbetter, whose fight for gender equality at Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. seemed like an open and shut case—until a loophole in the law denied her justice. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

There was a brief moment 150 years ago when it looked like women might get equal pay for equal work. But they didn’t—and that set the standard for decades to come. On this episode of the Pay Check, Rebecca Greenfield revisits a Civil War-era sex scandal that set the stage for the pay gap debates we're having right now. She talks to Claire Suddath about how a century of rules and laws saying what women can and can’t do have made it easy for companies to pay women less.  One big reason the gender pay gap still exists is because of a phenomenon called "occupational sorting"— the idea that some jobs are dominated by women, and those jobs often pay less. That didn't just happen. Claire and Rebecca sort through how history determined the market value for women. Then Claire talks with Lilly Ledbetter, whose fight for gender equality at Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. seemed like an open and shut case—until a loophole in the law denied her justice. Visit us at https://www.bloomberg.com/the-paycheck

There was a brief moment 150 years ago when it looked like women might get equal pay for equal work. But they didn’t—and that set the standard for decades to come. On this episode of the Pay Check, Rebecca Greenfield revisits a Civil War-era sex scandal that set the stage for the pay gap debates we're having right now. She talks to Claire Suddath about how a century of rules and laws saying what women can and can’t do have made it easy for companies to pay women less.  One big reason the gender pay gap still exists is because of a phenomenon called "occupational sorting"— the idea that some jobs are dominated by women, and those jobs often pay less. That didn't just happen. Claire and Rebecca sort through how history determined the market value for women. Then Claire talks with Lilly Ledbetter, whose fight for gender equality at Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. seemed like an open and shut case—until a loophole in the law denied her justice. Visit us at https://www.bloomberg.com/the-paycheck

Lilly Ledbetter became famous when President Obama enacted a gender pay equality law named after her life’s story working in America’s heartland, doing the same job as men, but for less pay. Now, she’s released a book, Grace and Grit: My Fight for Equal Pay and Fairness at Goodyear and Beyond, and this podcast interview is about her landmark Supreme Court case, the 2009 Fair Pay Act, her experiences with President Obama, and her thoughts on the current occupant of the Oval Office. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/dworkinreport/support

Sonya Gavankar and Stephanie Goetsch or HerExchange.com look back at the trail blazing life of Lilly Ledbetter to learn how we can gain more respect and pay in our careers.

Dr. Barbara Baker is the executive director of the Women's Leadership Institute at Auburn University. She's also an author and teaches in both the Women's Studies and Community and Civic Engagement programs, teaching a wide range of areas including African American and Southern literature and music. Her current work has been establishing the Coalition for the Advancement of Women in Public Office [CAWPO]. Re:Outreach, an offshoot of the Re:Research podcast series, provides insight on topics related to initiatives and programs available here at the College of Liberal Arts. Victoria Santos from the Office of External Affairs sat down with Dr. Barbara Baker to discuss opportunities for students to experience the Extraordinary Women’s Lecture Series, Women’s Leadership Institute, the upcoming Coalition for the Advancement of Women in Public Office, and so much more.   For more information: Lilly Ledbetter visit to Auburn University: youtube.com/watch?v=xKzv1odAfZA Marie Wilson visit to Auburn University: youtube.com/watch?v=RZ4DF0gCRUA Marie Wilson’s Book: Add Women, Change Everything: http://amzn.to/1pvQGyC May Angelou visit to Auburn University: family.auburn.edu/video/looking-back-an-afternoon-with-maya-angelou Gloria Steinhem visit to Auburn University: youtube.com/watch?v=cxz-3Jpuspg Extraordinary Women’s Lecture Series: cla.auburn.edu/wli/programs/extraordinary-women-a-lecture-series/ August 28th 2014 Coalition for the Advancement of Women in Public Office: http://www.cla.auburn.edu/perspectives/articles/coalition-to-advance-women-in-politics-in-the-state-of-alabama/ Learn more at www.claperspectives.com Regarding Outreach is produced by the Auburn University College of Liberal Arts Office of External Affairs. The producers for this episode are Victoria Santos, Scott Waters, and Michael Gutierrez.

 name is synonymous with equal pay for equal work and she discusses the current “war on women” and how the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009 became the first official piece of legislation that President Obama signed into law. Lilly shares her remarkable story in her memoir, . About The Women's Eye Radio: with host Stacey Gualandi, is a show from , an Online Magazine which features news and interviews with women who want to make the world a better place. From newsmakers, changemakers, entrepreneurs, best-selling authors, cancer survivors, adventurers, and experts on leadership, stress and health, to kids helping kids, global grandmothers improving children's lives, and women who fight for equal rights,"It's the world as we see it." The Women's Eye Radio Show broadcasts on in Phoenix, live-streams on 1480KPHX.com, and is available as on-demand talk radio on iTunes and at . Learn more about The Women's Eye at

A bit about the CARD Act and Lilly Ledbetter; Dave Thomas (in Christmas camo!), president of the Nashville chapter of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, finally settles the question of whether or not we are a Christian nation; your holiday phone calls and a special appearance by Dr. Marisa Richmond of the Tennessee Transgender Political Coalition who explains Rep. Jimmy Matlock's (R-Lenoir City) participation in this year's war on Hannukah. [26.30MB]

Join In-House Legal, host Paul D. Boynton Esq., as he brings two important legal topics to the table. In our first segment, Paul welcomes Maria Rodriguez, a partner with Winston & Strawn LLP in Los Angeles, to discuss the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009 and how it affects employers. Paul will also talk to Richard Stout, director of the Litigation Support Division for Counsel on Call and Dennis McKinnie, executive director of Counsel on Call’s Atlanta office, about how your legal department can save money through e-discovery.

Lilly Ledbetter lost a key wage discrimination lawsuit but remained in the fight to get a flawed law changed.