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Recorded April 18, 2025 In this episode, the gang looks at the chaos and excitement surrounding commencement season in higher education. From the intricacies of AV setups to the humorous mishaps that can occur, our experts share their experiences and insights on managing these large-scale events. Tune in for a blend of technical expertise and light-hearted banter! We also sneak in a news discussion about the widespread Zoom outage and the ramifications thereof. If nothing else, all the work from home people had a new excuse why they didn't get anything done for a few hours. News: https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/17/zoom_outage_godaddy_blamed/   Alternate Show Titles: Lick his title I'm a little behind Weather channel radio thing Listserv debauchery I touched a lot of stuff Deans are always special Naturally, they try to cheat Yell at them! Fine, I'm out! Can't you meet bi-monthly? Tailgating Commencement It is a big show! He said festival, not carnival Johnny out on the quad Just in case there's a streaker   We stream live every Friday at about 300p Eastern/1200p Pacific and you can listen to everything we record over at AVSuperFriends.com    ▀▄▀▄▀ CONTACT LINKS ▀▄▀▄▀ ► Website: https://www.avsuperfriends.com ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/avsuperfriends ► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/avsuperfriends ► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@avsuperfriends ► Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/avsuperfriends.bsky.social ► Email: mailbag@avsuperfriends.com ► RSS: https://avsuperfriends.libsyn.com/rss Donate to AVSF: https://www.avsuperfriends.com/support

The “science of reading” is trending; but in order for professionals to engage in effective instruction, they need to understand that literacy also includes spelling and writing.Writing, spelling, and reading are interconnected, and the growing body of research continues to show us that these skills need to be taught explicitly. That's why I invited Dr. Jan Wasowicz to episode 176 of the De Facto Leaders podcast to discuss the Language Literacy Network (Link here: https://learningbydesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/TLLN_11x8.5.pdf); a framework she's created to help professionals better understand the connections between reading, writing, spelling, and language. Dr. Jan Wasowicz has more than 40 years of experience as a speech-language, literacy, and learning specialist working with students in a variety of educational settings, including public schools, Head Start programs, and private practice. Dr. Wasowicz is frequently invited to speak about best practices in literacy assessment and instruction and has taught numerous undergraduate and graduate courses, holding faculty positions at Northwestern University, Elmhurst College, Rush–Presbyterian–St. Luke's Medical Center, and Governors State University. Her credits include articles published in scholarly journals and U.S. patents for her inventions of literacy software programs including Earobics® and Spelling Performance Evaluation for Language and Literacy (SPELL-3). Dr. Wasowicz is an author of SPELL-Links to Reading & Writing and lead moderator of the SPELLTalk multi-disciplinary professional listserv. She also currently serves as an advisory board member of The Reading League of Illinois and an external consultant for Purdue University's inter-disciplinary initiative to strengthen teacher preparation using science-based methods. Dr. Wasowicz is an ASHA-certified, IL-licensed, and FL-licensed speech-language pathologist and an ASHA Board Certified Specialist in Child Language and she holds a professional educator license with multiple endorsements from the State Teacher Certification Board of Illinois. She is the founder, president and CEO of SPELL-Links | Learning By Design, Inc., and she maintains a small private practice in IL via tele-practice and in FL serving students with oral and written language disorders.This episode is part of a partnership that's happening between the BEpodcast network (Link here: https://bepodcast.network/) and Reading is Fundamental (RIF) (Link here: https://www.rif.org) in September for National Literacy Month. In this conversation, we discuss:✅Do we need a “writing rope” to supplement the “reading rope”? Or should reading, writing and language be woven in to one literacy framework?✅Pragmatics, executive functioning, and metalinguistic awareness: How do these components fit in to effective literacy instruction?✅Does working on reading improve spelling? Does working on spelling improve reading? ✅Should professionals work on linguistic skills in stages? When/how should professionals start working on morphology in elementary school?✅Defining “print to speech” and “speech to print” approaches (with specific examples). 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For a full transcript of this episode, click here. This show today is for physicians or other clinicians or providers who are still taking insurance—those who are going about their day being pretty normal ... but at the same time, they're noticing one and/or two things potentially going on. Here's thing one: They may be seeing patients struggling to afford care, especially patients with commercial insurance and huge deductibles. And/Or thing two: They may have patients actually coming in and asking to pay cash. It's definitely becoming known in some circles that about half the time the cash price for something is actually cheaper than the “negotiated” rate with an insurance carrier. And this has really become an actionable insight for patients who haven't yet met their deductible, and some high percentage of patients—maybe upwards of 90% of patients—won't meet their deductible in any given plan year. So, all of this is probably some pretty obvious foreshadowing, but let's run through two maybe quick reasons why a practice might want to contemplate ways to make it easier for patients to pay cash when it is, in fact, cheaper for that patient to pay cash than it is for them to go through their insurance. Now, a clarifying point here: We are not talking here about that patient always paying cash heretofore … like, never using their insurance ever again, even if they get hit by a bus. No. We're talking about the patient coming in for some office visit or service, and today, they want to pay with a wad of money they take out of their wallet and hand you. That is the end of the transaction that we're talking about here. So, here's the first of let's just say two reasons that a practice might want to entertain taking cash from insured (technically, at least) patients. First reason: We have a situation in this country where 48% of insured commercial patients say that they are delaying or forgoing care due to cost or fear of cost. Sometimes I say this 48% number to a clinician, and they will reply, “Well, that's not in my practice or in my hospital; our patients show up.” To which I reply, “Yeah, because the patients abandoning care are not the patients that are coming in. They are abandoning care.” Now, the second reason a “normie” practice might want to be thinking about how to help patients get the best possible price here is maybe less intuitive, but it's a financial motivation for the practice. I just saw Eric Vanderhoef. He wrote on a Listserv recently, and this is what he wrote: Patient no-shows and cancellations cost healthcare providers as much as $7500 per month. That's a loss of $375 per patient. Hmmm … okay. Keep this in mind: The whole cancellations costing providers upwards of $7500 a month would help reduce this. Coincidentally, I was talking to Paula Muto, MD (she's the founder of UBERDOC) about this exact same topic the other day—just the crazy no-show rates that many practices experience—and she made some really good points, which are exactly in line with the Tebra report Eric Vanderhoef referenced above. She said that if a patient knows exactly how much a physician visit is going to cost—because they're paying cash and the price is set between the doctor and the patient, so the price is the price, the end—no-shows will go down, and this is especially true when the appointment is tomorrow and not six months from now when appointments are booking these days. It's kind of not normal for anybody to know what's gonna be happening in lives six months from now, so no wonder patients fail to show. Dr. Muto is recommending maybe having a couple of slots open every day for patients who want to pay cash. Doing this could help improve some—not all, for sure, but some—practice cash flow issues which are caused by the no-show thing or the getting paid by the insurance carrier net whatever months later after a billing fight kind of thing. And it's also a win-win for patients with high-deductible plans, especially those patients who are coming in asking to pay cash. In the conversation today, Marshall Allen, my guest, explains how to, in a simple enough way, operationalize the ability of a practice to take cash. There's a form that you'll need for insured patients. You'll actually need a cash price. It's also a marketing opportunity. For example, you can get listed with entities that connect consumers to practices that take cash, like UBERDOC, but there's also a growing movement of employers, especially in some parts of the country, who are looking around for providers who will do direct contracting or cash prices. In fact, I just saw a study the other day: “New polling conducted by Marist … found that 94 percent of adults agreed that hospitals, insurance companies and doctors should ‘be legally required to disclose all of their prices, including discounted prices, cash prices, and insurance negotiated rates across hospitals and across plans in an easily accessible place online.'” Alright, if I know you, you are thinking right now about all of the reasons why this won't work. So, let me head you off at the pass. My guest today, Marshall Allen, solves for the most common issues that everybody brings up, including the big kahuna issue, the “I am contractually forbidden by a health plan to allow patients to pay cash.” You will need to listen to this podcast for the answer. Now, there are, of course, other hairballs to untangle that we do not address today. As Marshall Allen says, there are layers of dysfunction here. One bit of weirdness is something that David Schreiner, PhD, told me about the other day. David is CEO of Katherine Shaw Bethea Hospital in Dixon, Illinois; and he's also the author of a new book entitled Be the Best Part of Their Day: Supercharging Communications With Values-driven Leadership. David said that sometimes hospital payer contracts have the payer reimbursing the hospital for a percentage of overall charges. Yes, you heard that right. The hospital totes up, using their charge master rates, the total amount of billings for the entire year; and the carriers pay a percentage of that total. So, the hospital has a big incentive to keep charge master rates as high as possible. If some patients pay lower cash amounts, then their carrier reimbursement (the hospital's carrier reimbursement) will drop. Probably some math there, I guess, because if it's determined that patients aren't actually showing up for services due to cost, then they might be getting paid a percentage of zero by the carriers; but point taken still. There are, for sure, considerations to be thought through; and, for sure, having contracts like this is one of them. I was talking to Lauren McAteer the other day, and she told me when she worked for a hospital and went to meetings, sometimes she'd bring in a hospital gown and hang it over a chair in the conference room to make it harder to not consider the patient perspective and think about how decisions impacted patients. Good idea, because where there's a will, there's often a way. My guest today, Marshall Allen, probably needs no introduction. But I ask Marshall for the skinny on how he started Allen Health Academy, and you will hear him introduce himself. So, in the interest of eschewing redundancy, let's do this thing. Also mentioned in this episode are Eric Vanderhoef; Paula Muto, MD; David L. Schreiner, PhD; Lauren McAteer, CCXP; Benjamin Jolley, PharmD; David Scheinker, PhD; William Shrank, MD; Jerry Durham; Leon Wisniewski; Cristin Dickerson, MD; and Dutch Rojas. You can learn more by signing up for Marshall's newsletter at marshallallen.substack.com. You can also go to Allen Health Academy or to Marshall's site.     Marshall Allen has spent more than 17 years investigating the healthcare system as a journalist. He is the founder of Allen Health Academy and the author of Never Pay the First Bill: And Other Ways to Fight the Health Care System and Win. His book and his health literacy videos, The Never Pay Pathway, are helping working Americans save hundreds and thousands of dollars—per healthcare encounter. Marshall is a two-time finalist for the Pulitzer Prize and winner of the Harvard Kennedy School's Goldsmith Prize for Investigative Reporting and dozens of other journalism awards. For more information, visit allenhealthacademy.com and sign up for his newsletter at marshallallen.substack.com.   07:04 What Allen Health Academy is doing. 11:01 What's the problem with the system now? 14:19 EP363 with David Scheinker, PhD. 14:27 EP413 with Will Shrank, MD. 14:34 What's the hack Marshall Allen shares for insured patients paying cash? 15:06 How can patients cite HIPAA to pay cash instead of using their insurance? 19:00 What's the first recommendation Marshall Allen has when dealing with healthcare billing? 21:26 EP297 with Jerry Durham. 21:48 What are the other benefits of a clinic accepting cash payments? 25:36 Why do we need to have more direct pay happening? 26:36 How should a medical provider set a cash price? 27:12 Research tools for fair pricing: fairhealthconsumer.org, BILLY, colonoscopyassist.com, Jason Health, Green Imaging. 32:36 How do you find the win-win between a patient and a doctor? 32:51 What's the final tier of partners in creating more direct-pay opportunities? 34:30 What's Marshall Allen's opinion on having to pay credit card fees?   You can learn more by signing up for Marshall's newsletter at marshallallen.substack.com. You can also go to Allen Health Academy or to Marshall's site.   @marshallallen discusses operationalizing cash payments for #clinicalpractices on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #pharma #healthcareleadership #healthcaretransformation #healthcareinnovation   Recent past interviews: Click a guest's name for their latest RHV episode! Stacey Richter (INBW39), Peter Hayes, Joey Dizenhouse, Benjamin Jolley, Emily Kagan Trenchard (Encore! EP392), Cora Opsahl (Encore! EP372), Jodilyn Owen, Ge Bai, Andreas Mang, Karen Root (Encore! EP381)  

Show Notes Today's Guests: APTA Acute Care Rehab Clinical Educators Focus Group Co-Chairs: email:educatorsfg@aptaacaute.org Katie Yahya, PT, DPT Board-Certified Clinical Specialist in Geriatric Physical Therapy Associate Professor Regis University https://www.linkedin.com/in/katielorenzi/ Twitter: @lady_yahya44 IG: @prof_kyahya loren084@regis.edu Noelle Sublett, PT nsublett@srhs.com Guest Quotes: 4:31 Noelle: “Every location is just a little bit different. But I think the thing that ties us all together is that we're passionate about acute care and we're passionate about education.” 4:44 Katie: “A theme that I see that's common between a lot of our members is that, you know, there's no formal training for what they're doing. They either created the role or it was kind of thrust upon them in some form or fashion because they demonstrated leadership skills in mentoring or onboarding or just  elevating the profession in that way.” 12:52 Noelle (on the webinar): “We just talked about kind of how it got started in each of our different locations and what our roles are and just trying to give people a little bit of an idea of how they might be able to get it started in their own organization.” 22:04 Katie (on the pros of being a rehab educator): “It allows me to practice at the top of my scope and make sure that I'm pushing the envelope in a positive way.  Like I'm not just a person who just comes up and walks people. I'm gonna have a really strong discussion about the benefits of mobility and how I can serve the team and reach the patient's functional goals and also and not be held back by like not knowing how to use a piece of equipment or something along those lines.” Rapid Responses: What is your favorite book? Noelle: “The Nightingale by Kristin Hannah” Katie: “The Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver” You know, you work in acute care when… Noelle: “You can talk about gross things like open wounds at the dinner table and not get grossed out.” Katie: “Yep. That that was, we had almost the exact same answer on the chat form, so I second that.” Links: https://www.aptaacutecare.org/page/RehabClinFG To network and collaborate, subscribe to the Listserv: http://groups.io/g/aptaacutecareeducatorrehab and click on subscribe to create an account. To view our previous webinar:https://www.aptaacutecare.org/store/viewproduct.aspx?id=20972331 Connect with our hosts and the podcast! Leo Arguelles (LEE-O R-GWELL-IS) Twitter @LeoArguellesPT Ashley Poole Twitter @AshleyPooleDPT Interested in being a future guest? APTA Acute Care: Website Journal Access Twitter @AcuteCareAPTA Facebook APTA Acute Care Instagram @AcademyAcutePT YouTube  APTA Acute Care Podcast APTA Acute Care Resources APTA Adult Vital Signs APTA Lab Values Document Webinar Recordings Upcoming Webinar: Treating the Acute Care Pregnant and Postpartum Population Without Pelvic Floor Training  https://www.aptaacutecare.org/events/eventdetails.aspx?id=1753802 2023 Long Covid Webinar Series

Recorded at the 2022 Fall Conference, we sat down with Emily Bloedel, the Co-Chair of the Legal Council Forum to discuss their work at the conference and the Forum's importance for ACEC member firms.   Background: The Legal Counsel Forum was created so that counsel to ACEC member firms could meet and share information about legal issues facing engineering companies. Such individuals can register for the Forum and be included in the Forum's listserv upon request. Over time, it has also become customary for professional liability insurance specialists to take part in the Forum and Listserv at the invitation of the Chair. The LCF meets for a day and a half in conjunction with the ACEC Annual Convention and Fall conference. The Chair of the Forum prepares a draft agenda that is circulated to the Forum participants shortly before the meeting. The agenda is finalized at the meeting itself. Past discussion topics have included: Economic Loss Doctrine Building Information Modeling (BIM) and Integrated Project Delivery Downsizing Limitation of Liability Clauses Document Retention Policies

Andrew Gillsmith is a science fiction writer whose education in religious studies and passion for the cyberpunk genre has helped inform and mold his style of storytelling. Fittingly, his first job out of school was delivering mail for Jeff Bezos when he was still selling books via Listserv. Since then, he's worked in a number of interesting roles, including head of customer experience for the Kentucky Derby, leader of a proposed hyperloop project in the United States, head of data analysis for a healthcare company, and SVP of sales for a digital marketing agency. He currently works in publisher development in the programmatic advertising space. Andrew lives in St. Louis, Missouri with his wife Cheryl and their two young sons. His new novel, Our Lady of the Artilects, is available for purchase on Amazon. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/john-aidan-byrne0/support

Not sure about the case value of a case? Finding case values can be really difficult. Sometimes, cases are difficult to assess. Maybe you're just not sure how to evaluate this case. There are three sources lawyers generally tap into when it comes to evaluating cases. First, they could use their own experiences, which can be great, but at times, it can be limited. Maybe because they haven't practiced very long, or maybe because the facts are unique or the case itself is unique. Second, lawyers can tap into other people's experiences either by asking other lawyers who have handled a similar case. They may also use a Listserv where they can ask other lawyers in the same profession or organizations. Third, lawyers could look into jury verdicts in their location or jurisdiction.  In this episode, I'm going to share another way of finding case values, which is by running focus groups, and learn how you can use focus groups to get the most reliable data possible. In this episode, you will hear: Understanding there are different categories of ways to run focus groups Using focus groups to find case value vs. quantitative studies Some cautions to think about when running the focus group Striving to learn more but also questioning the reliability of the data Different factors that determine the success of a focus group The challenge to stay neutral as a presenter to gather reliable data Subscribe and Review Have you subscribed to our podcast? We'd love for you to subscribe if you haven't yet.  We'd love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: If you have a question or a suggestion for an episode, please email me: elizabeth@larricklawfirm.com.  Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know I sent you.

Welcome to our second season of ONE VOICE MAKES A DIFFERENCE podcast, with Janet Swanson. In this new episode, Elaine tells of her journey of being a mom  of four military officers, one each in the Air Force, Army, Navy, and Marines. Her heart is to reach out to moms to bring comfort to their empty hearts while their children serve in the military.  Elaine Lowry Brye is a mom who knows about letting go.  Like many moms, she cried when her kids left home, wishes they'd call and write more, and spends sleepless nights worrying about them.   But Elaine's tears and concerns are even more poignant than most mothers'—because Elaine is the mom of four military officers, one each in the Air Force, Army, Navy, and Marines.   An Army brat turned ROTC candidate turned military wife, Elaine never expected her kids to have a call to serve, and certainly didn't expect all four to join up.   Three of her kids—two sons and a daughter—attended the Naval Academy, and it was there that Elaine got her own calling: she joined the Naval Academy Parents' Listserv, and began a fifteen-year journey of helping moms and dads adjust to their strange, new, lonely lives as military parents.  She also spent a year teaching in Kabul, Afghanistan where she experienced life in a war zone. Her love of her country and desire to support her fellow parents led to her to write Be Safe, Love Mom: A Military Moms Stories of Courage, Comfort, and Surviving Life on the Homefront and create this web site to further support and connect those who love their military children. You will hear Elaine talk about her family and what it means to “LET GO” and “LET GOD” You will hear about miracles and what to do when your child has a “CALL” upon their lives!  Elaine talks about the chapter in her book, “No Guts, No Glory” all about in your book? Then you will receive a powerful prayer over your life that will equip you for the up's and down's of military life and just when a mom needs to LET GO@     If you'd like to purchase Elaine's book, here is the amazon link to the book: https://www.amazon.com/Be-Safe-Love-Mom-audiobook/dp/B00US6IT72/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1KG6BNJCIB6G&keywords=be+safe+love+mom&qid=1655831724&sprefix=be+safe+love+mom%2Caps%2C94&sr=8-1   facebook Be Safe Love Mom-Elaine Brye instagram Be Safe Love Mom Podcast Be Safe Love Mom-What Holds Us Together    there are 15 episodes  on Apple Spotify

Welcome back to the Law and Education Podcast! Today's episode is an informational conversation on the topic of religious exemptions. Over 60% of our clients and community partners are faith-based institutions, so we have been fielding an increasingly high number of questions in the changing landscape. Tune in to learn how to prove that your school or institution qualifies for a religious exemption and hear about the key cases that have brought the exception into question. If your institution intends to use this exemption, you should carefully review the requirements to ensure that any prohibited conduct is closely aligned with your religious tenets. We end our podcast with practical advice on utilizing the summer to prepare for next year. Thanks for tuning in! Key Points From This Episode: An introduction to today's topic and what motivated us to talk about it. Why the burden is on an institution to prove that it qualifies for a religious exemption. The six ways an institution can qualify for the religious exemption. The new Religious Liberty and Free Inquiry Rule that may alter these requirements. A key case on the issue involving Fuller Seminary in 2021 around the dismissal of students married to people of the same sex. The response of LGBTQ+ students contesting the Title IX exemption. Hunter v Department of Education: the class action where plaintiffs allege that the exemption allows taxpayer funded religious institutions to abuse and oppress LGBTQ+ students. The further claim that the lack of action allows LGBTQ+ students to be exposed to conversion therapy, sexual abuse, and harassment in schools. An example of BYU school in Utah that has banned dating between LGBTQ students. The Clarks Summit case where a student was reported to be in a same-sex relationship and thus not permitted to graduate. What to consider as a faith-based institution: clarify your religious tenets, keep your policies narrowly tailored, and widely disseminate them.  Why it is important to be mindful of retaliatory actions regardless of whether someone is a member of the LGBTQ+ community. The importance of consulting legal counsel. Why, if you intend to use this exemption, you should carefully review the requirements to ensure that any prohibited conduct is closely aligned with your religious tenets. Resources to learn more: the broad post on our website and the Religious Exemption Accountability Project.  How you non-Community Partners can join our LISTSERV dedicated to faith-based institutions for 6 months. What ICS is busy with at the moment, assisting on the ground, and partnering with you. Why summer is the time to review your policies and procedures. Title IX University and the benefits of becoming an ICS partner.       Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Religious Exemption Accountability Project ICS Lawyer Higher Ed Community Access K-12 Community Access Higher Ed Virtual Certified IX Training K-12 Virtual Certified Title IX Training ICS Blog Courtney Bullard on Twitter  Courtney Bullard Email

Are you having trouble attracting and building an audience? In this episode, Kevin Chemidlin outlines effective podcast growth tactics. Tune in and discover many strategies to grow a successful show!     WHAT TO LISTEN FOR What is “Listserv” and how do you grow an email list? Is republishing episode bad for your show? Why would you give your valuable content for free? What is “Targeted Daily Engagement (TDE) and how to do it” Where and how to connect better with people on social platforms RESOURCES/LINKS MENTIONED Make Noise | Paperback and Audible ABOUT KEVIN CHEMIDLIN Kevin Chemidlin is a podcaster and a podcasting coach as well. He is the host of the show Philly Who? And Grow the Show. He is also the founder of Cue9, a podcast production company specializing in purpose-driven audio. Clients include Comcast, NBC Universal, iHeartRadio, Bluecadet, Religion of Sports, Lululemon, and Technically Media. CONNECT WITH KEVIN Website: Grow the Show Website: Philly Who? Podcast: Grow the Show Podcast: Philly Who? CONNECT WITH US Thinking about creating and growing your own podcast but not sure where to start? Visit GrowYourShow.com and Schedule a call with Adam A. Adams! Thinking of upgrading your podcast equipment or maybe getting your first microphone? Get Your Free Equipment Guide! We have a free course for you on everything you need to know about starting a great podcast! Check out our first 6 episodes through the links below! Identify Your Avatar - Free Course 1/6 What To Do BEFORE You Launch Your Podcast - Free Course 2/6 How To Launch A TOP Show - Free Course 3/6 Best Marketing And Growth Strategies - Free Course 4/6 How To Monetize Your Podcast - Free Course 5/6  Top 22 Pitfalls On Starting Your Own Podcast - Free Course 6/6

With much joy and sass, we are so happy to be joined by Joey Sigona from EurovisioNYC - an inclusive party that celebrates all things Eurovision all year long! Thank Ru, GJKoijman, Marco Dreijer and Adam Unze for forcing the Huntys to get into the Eurovision situation. Joey served the deets about his Eurovision parties in NYC and Chill Bar - a safe queer space that is creating some inclusive programming in the VERY cis-male gay area in Palm Springs. Kudos! Then, drag race. How relieved is everyone besides Kornbread that she has been tagged out early?. On the bright side, Bosco finally got to demonstrate why we should not put her and Orione Story in the same category just because they sometimes look the same. Thank Ru for bringing the trio of first eliminated queens who further demonstrated why season 14 might still need a little more fire and how Kamora Hall is trying to root for YOU! FINALLY, we return to the epic journey of Jujubee as she attempts to complete an infinity gauntlet of drag race seasons. UK vs The World serves some seasoned queen realness and we are all parched for this talent. Jimbo, so weird and so good. Pangina literally proves why she was a judge. And, Monique demonstrating singing for - to be real - everyone! But, where, I mean, WHERE IS THAT PRIZE MONEY???????? About our guest: Joey is a Eurovision fan who contributes to a fan media outlet on the Eurovision-themed site: ESC-plus.com and their YouTube channel. When not tracking down the latest from artists in the Eurovision circles, he is working with his NY-based team to plan the NYC party: EurovisioNYC, where all the children under the spectrum celebrate their love for Eurovision's spirit, diversity, multi-culturalism, and music. The party is hallmarked by a mix of drag performance and a lip-sync showdown. Follow EurovisioNYC for party updates! FOLLOW JOEY and EuriovisioNYC Instagram: eurovisionyc, sigonajoey, esc_plus Facebook: EurovisioNYC FOLLOW MIJON Instagram: majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntys Facebook: whisperinghuntys Tiktok: whisperinghuntys Twitter: huntywhispering Whispering Huntys Website Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Reunited and it feels so good. Our dear friend, Barbara Busch Light joins us again with all the updates. Thus far, she has been slaying at Starsearch - an Iowa City drag completion at Studio 13. She is also now the hostess and producer of Dinner is Never a Drag at a diner that is literally called The Diner. While she may no longer be a beauty queen, she will certainly reign in our hearts forever. Then, Drag Race... Thank you, Bosco for serve talking head and fashion on the runway. We see you and we Stan. Also, What is Kornbread the Snack Jeté is going with Jasmine Kennedie? Oh wait, its literally Kornbread. Praying for some sisterly love moving forward. That being this teaser challenge was everything. Here's to new content on Drag Race! Also, what do you really get when you get that golden ticket? Do you stay for a week and then get to go straight home? About our guest: Barbara Busch Light is one of the fiercest queens this side of the Quad Cities, Henny! Hailing from Davenport, IA, Barbara is a professionally trained makeup artist and wig stylist! While she's young, she leaves all her gigs gagged and with that coin in her purse. Outside of drag, she's quite the gaymer. Check out Barbara Busch Light on Facebook or Instagram to keep up with all of her show dates and who knows, she may be in your area soon!! FOLLOW BARBARA BUSCH LIGHT Instagram: barbarabuschlight Twitter: thiccbitchbarb Tiktok: barbarabuschlight FOLLOW MIJON Instagram: majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntys Facebook: whisperinghuntys Tiktok: whisperinghuntys Twitter: huntywhispering Whispering Huntys Website Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Sometimes, if not all the time, we get it from our MAMA! That's why we are super excited to talk to the powerhouse that is Mancie Mandell - the mother of Jasmine Kennedie. With a little bit of Honest Tea and L-O-V-E, Mama Mandell and I had a lovely kiki about her love of fashion, Gospel Drag, how she feels about the dress she made for Jasmine's runway this week, and lesser-known spots in Asbury Park, NJ. Then, it was on to the Drag Race! Why was Deja Skye so cocky after that lip sync? Jorgeous in THAT DRESS! These damn chocolate bars! What in the cavity?! Bosco was safe? Why Bling Empire? Also, June is a stylist. Ummmm…careful what you say!!!!!! About our guest: Mancie Mandell is a 28-year-old aspiring designer hailing all the way from Asbury Park, NJ. A former Miss Paradise 2019, she's an entertainer in the nightlife, a pageant queen, and a part of that special sauce that brought us the lovely Jasmine Kennedie! FOLLOW MANCIE Instagram: missmandella Facebook: Mancie.mandell FOLLOW MIJON Instagram: majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntys Facebook: whisperinghuntys Tiktok: whisperinghuntys Twitter: huntywhispering Whispering Huntys Website Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

In this episode we respond to a disgruntled listener's critiques of our previous Rittenhouse-gate! episode, and discuss a controversial proposal on the Society for Personality and Social Psychology (SPSP) listserv to form a group of non-oppressed oppression researchers. Links:Statement by graduate students of color at UNC concerning the pervasiveness of racism in the UNC psychology department: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L6J6Ee58JM338Fu89it_iKECeWdFWwSX60W6T3eC1r8/editA list of references we were pointed towards as additional evidence of racism within the UNC psychology department: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UmtHuW31UDoXfFe7LT26bnDVkGrB0DzpwroAD4QRW2U/editStatistics concerning the demographics of SPSP members: https://www.spsp.org/sites/default/files/Member-Diversity-Statistics-December-2019.pdfRacial Equity Tools' explainer on the reasoning behind racial affinity groups https://www.racialequitytools.org/resources/act/strategies/caucus-and-affinity-groupsShowing Up For Racial Justice's (SURJ) list of past actions taken by SURJ affinity groups https://surj.org/category/past-actions/Opinion piece: 'Please don't ask your Black friends to teach you about racism' https://theeverymom.com/dont-ask-your-black-friends-to-teach-you-about-racism/

Stop Everything. Who the F*@# are we? This is a day Whispering Huntys never thought would we happen! Our idol, our muse, our inspiration Jonah Kilday is in the Hunty House! Jonah is a queer creative and the co-host of The Queer Creative podcast, which is basically the drag mom to Whispering Huntys and so many queer creatives around the world. Getting a chance to talk about queer creativity and the growth that phenomenal podcast was such a dream! Whispering Huntys is honored and grateful, but also SERIOUSLY underwhelmed by episode 2 of season 14! Why was Alicia Keys in a box? What was Deja Skye's cheer presentation about? What song was Maddy Morphosis trying to play? And, what was the rest? If we are going to have a talent show there needs to be more talent than just lipsyncing because we all know that lipsyncing the house-down-boots is a requirement for simply walking through the door. Or, at least, it was until now. Thank God-Ga, Angeria Paris VanMicheals served us some sweet tea. About our guest: Jonah Kilday is an Interior Designer and co-founder of MK Workshop a boutique design studio in Brooklyn, NY & Austin, TX. He co-hosts a podcast titled The Queer Creative with Renessa Ciampa where they interview queer creatives from all backgrounds about their work, struggle, and hustle. FOLLOW JONAH Instagram: mkworkshopbk, thequeercreativepodcast Twitter: creativequeer Youtube: The Queer Creative Podcast Checkout: The Queer Creative Link Tree, The Women's House of Detention: A Queer History of a Forgotten Prison by Hugh Ryan, MK Workshop FOLLOW MIJON Instagram: majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntys Facebook: whisperinghuntys Tiktok: whisperinghuntys Twitter: huntywhispering Whispering Huntys Website Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Undergarments everywhere, a talent show debut, jerking or twerking or improv, Kerri Colby's face, and all the Kornbread. Season 14 is back and it feels so right! We still don't know what Willow Pill did, but thank-the-Evie-Oddly it happened. We kick off this week with The-Bachelor-and-Drag- Race obsessed Kali Tripodis. Kali hosts the ultimate Bachelor after show Trashler and brings all her hot takes to the yard. If that is not enough, we have the one and only Savannah Couture - Drag daughter and real-life sibling of Isis Couture - fresh from the emotional journey that has been the seriously fierce Ottawan drag taking over the world. Who are we? Get ready. We are going to deep dive into La Pusetta, Olivia Rodrigo, Gaga, and more shade than anyone deserves. Kali Tripodis is a comedy writer, performer, and Lady Gaga historian. She lives in New York and loves to perform improv, sketch, and of course, karaoke. Serving you cotton candy bubblegum princess, Savannah Couture is the perfect sugary sweet sensation. The only thing sweeter than her looks is Savannah herself! She has been performing drag for many years and is one of Ottawa's favourite queens in the drag scene. She starred in season 2 of CBC's Canada's A Drag with her drag mother/sister Icesis Couture and is a headline performer at The Lookout Bar, as well as many other popular venues in and around Ottawa. She's even toured across the country opening up for your favourite RuPaul's Drag Race queens! This is one galactical barbie NOT to miss! FOLLOW KALI Instagram: kalisucks, trashelor, Twitter: kalisuckz Youtube: Kali Tripodis Kali's Link Tree FOLLOW SAVANNAH Instagram: sav.couture Twitter: savcouture Tiktok: sav.couture Checkout: Icesis Couture, Velvet Code - La Pusetta FOLLOW MIJON Instagram: majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntys Facebook: whisperinghuntys Tiktok: whisperinghuntys Twitter: huntywhispering Whispering Huntys Website Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Well, Drag Race is about to give birth until season 14. Till then, we decided to have a kiki with the Queen of the Universe. How could we not? $250,000 for a 6 episode season, while the Drag Race UK has no prize and Drag Race Itaila €30,000? Luckily, it might even be more enjoyable than one of the bajillion franchises that have come through this year. Grag Queen, AdaVox, Aria B Cassadine, Sushant Divgikar, and Gingzilla have changed us forever. And the Finale! Zomg, no one could have predicted the “moment”mishap. Leona Lewis and Michelle Visage barely recovered enough to give their comments. And then, the growl that Grag Queen saved for her last performance SLAYYYYYYYYYYYYED. About our guest! Yannik Encarnação is a proud Latin actor, writer, and creative renaissance man based in beautiful Brooklyn, New York. He is a co-host of the Two Beers Please podcast and currently plays Tatty Tat on the Amazon Prime Series "City of the Beast" (Season 2 now playing!). He can be caught at any movie theater in NYC or buried in a book on the subway, so keep your eyes open! FOLLOW YANNIK Instagram: sonicyannik11, twobeersplease_podcast, tier5theatrecompany Medium: rmyme11 Checkout: Two Beers Please Podcast, Tier5 Fairytales from Home Stream Yannik's Website FOLLOW MIJON Instagram: majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntys Facebook: whisperinghuntys Tiktok: whisperinghuntys Twitter: huntywhispering Whispering Huntys Website Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

As one of our guests, Dr. Tony DiGioia (EP332), has said, healthcare has been pushed to its limits this past year; but that doesn't mean that nothing good has come of it. Celebrating our bright spots and using our experiences to inform future innovations is really the key to more accessible, equitable, and higher quality of care. While the timing of the celebration could, in general, be better given the latest pandemic news, as they say, there's no time like the present. So, let's do this thing. Also, it's just definitely good from a mental health perspective to find bright spots and to be grateful for them. So, let me kick this off with all of the gratitude I can hold in my two hands for anybody listening who is on the so-called front line of healthcare. My appreciation cannot be expressed more fiercely. I wish, in fact, that there was more that I/we could do to address the systemic issues that plague our healthcare industry and really impact you directly. Speaking of doctors as one of these frontline healthcare groups, in the Doximity Physician Compensation Report that was released for this past year, here's four stats to know:   Twenty-two percent of physicians are considering early retirement because of overwork. Sixteen percent of physicians are looking for another employer because of overwork. Twelve percent of physicians are looking for another career because of overwork. Twenty-seven percent of physicians said they're not overworked, so I guess there's that—that's a bright spot. So, all you docs, nurses, PAs, social workers, therapists of all kinds, any other healthcare workers: Thank you for all that you do even in the face of these adversities and a bunch of seemingly shortsighted policy and/or administrative decisions. Take care of yourself first and foremost. We need you; we appreciate you. Thank you. I'd also like to thank everybody who listened to Relentless Health Value this past year. Thank you for being part of an inspired and inspirational community of individuals who are trying hard to do the right thing and learn and connect with others on a similar journey—even in the face of all the perverse incentives and calcified status quo processes, the whole host of factors that add up to formidable barriers to positive change. All of us—and I'm thinking that includes you—we continue to press forward. This is important because the more of us there are, the more of us who link hands and do some combination of educate, cajole, scold, guilt into, demand, lead, vote, wear down … the more of us who consider ourselves part of the change, the more effective we can be. So, recruit your fellow thinkers and let's continue to make inroads. I want to give a special thank you to the many of you who have reached out to me over this past year. You have encouraged, coached, and debated with me. You have added details and case studies. You've provided context. You have offered up topics to explore and introduced me and our team over here to some great guests. You have changed my mind. You have made me realize that there's some maybe underlying reason for something that is, in fact, valid or a consequence that maybe hasn't been thought through well enough by me and/or others. I couldn't be more thankful or appreciative to every single one of you. For more information, go to aventriahealth.com.   Each week on Relentless Health Value, Stacey uses her voice and thought leadership to provide insights for healthcare industry decision makers trying to do the right thing. Each show features expert guests who break down the twists and tricks in the medical field to help improve outcomes and lower costs across the care continuum. Relentless Health Value is a top 100 podcast on iTunes in the medicine category and reaches tens of thousands of engaged listeners across the healthcare industry. In addition to hosting Relentless Health Value, Stacey is co-president of QC-Health, a benefit corporation finding cost-effective ways to improve the health of Americans. She is also co-president of Aventria Health Group, a consultancy working with clients who endeavor to form collaborations with payers, providers, Pharma, employer organizations, or patient advocacy groups. 03:36 Thank you to our listeners and the feedback you've given the show over the years. 05:10 “Good and bad is a matter of extremes.” 06:20 Thank you to Dr. Steve Schutzer, Dr. George Mathews, Dr. Ge Bai, Troy Larsgard, Dr. Hugh Sims, Vinay Eaton, Dr. Brian Decker, Jeff Hogan, Peter Hayes, Dr. Aaron Mitchell, Parker Edman, Andre Wenker, Doug Aldeen, Cristy Gupton, LynAnn Henderson, Chad Jackson, and Darrell Moon. 07:27 Thank you to our iTunes reviewers. 07:47 If you haven't given us a review yet, please do here. 08:01 Thank you to Malfoxley, Jopo1234, and Teresa O'Keefe for your 2021 reviews. 08:19 Thank you to Dr. Nadia Chaudhri, who sadly died this past year of ovarian cancer but who did so much to advance the awareness of ovarian cancer and pursue better outcomes and better patient care. Look through her Twitter feed. 08:39 Thank you to Brian Klepper, who is a great writer but also runs what might be the largest Listserv for those on the innovative self-insured employer side of healthcare. What I most admire about Brian is his ability and dedication to fact-based and productive debate. Brian is featured on several RHV episodes this past year. You can check them out here: EP335 and AEE16. 09:09 I'd also like to thank Dr. Eric Bricker for his series called AHealthcareZ. Dr. Bricker is a guest on an episode coming up that I'm so looking forward to publishing. 09:45 Thanks to these writers for taking the time and effort to put out such worthwhile content: Brendan Keeler, Kevin O'Leary, Nikhil Krishnan, Olivia Webb, Joe Connolly, Christian Milaster (Telehealth Tuesday), Gist Healthcare daily/weekly newsletter and podcast, John Marchica's newsletter and podcast, and Merrill Goozner.10:10 If you don't already, I'd also recommend following these individuals on LinkedIn: Darren Fogarty, Leon Wisniewski, and Christin Deacon (listen to Christin's episode about the CAA this past fall). 10:26 David Contorno and Emma Fox, thanks so much for all of your work motivating collaboration and inspiring self-insured employers to wield the power they possess in meaningful ways. There's a symposium coming up that anyone interested should check out. 10:42 I appreciate and periodically check out Julie Yoo from Andreessen Horowitz's collection of resources on a Google doc. 10:55 Thanks to Rohan Siddhanti and Ezequiel Halac for organizing events in NYC. 11:03 People often ask me for podcast recommendations, so here's a few I listen to regularly: John Lynn's podcasts, Creating a New Healthcare with Dr. Zeev Neuwirth, Race to Value with Eric Weaver, Radio Advisory, Gist Healthcare Daily, The #HCBiz Show! with Don Lee, and Primary Care Cures with Ron Barshop (I was on the show released Thanksgiving week). There's also the Pharmacy Podcast Network.11:42 Also thanks to the following publications who have given us press credentials and passes to conferences: STAT News, NODE.Health, HealthIMPACT, and JAMA. 12:03 Lastly, we have a tip jar on our Web site which we don't really publicize. I say this to emphasize that those who choose to donate are just simply kind and gracious individuals: Alex Dou, Linda Garcia, James Farley, Arthur Berens, Lois Drapin, James Cheairs, Robert Matthews, Lois Niland, Teresa O'Keefe, Richard Klasco, Hugh Sims, Matt Warhaftig, Meredith Fried, Chad Jackson, Vidar Jorgensen, and Brandon Weber. 12:38 Thank you ALL for your continued leadership in improving healthcare. 12:42 Christin Deacon has said, “What we need more of in the healthcare industry are leaders who are willing to take on legacy institutions and their lobbyists, in both public and private discourse. We need leaders that are willing to take on an industry that makes up about 20% of our GDP and is willing to go on record stating that the goal is not just to curb growth but, rather, stop it and rebuild this whole thing better for patients.” For more information, go to aventriahealth.com. From all of us at Relentless Health Value, THANK YOU for your listenership and support. Our host, Stacey, shares highlights and resources from this past year on our latest #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth Did you know you can review our #podcast? https://relentlesshealthvalue.com/4-steps-rate-review-podcast-itunes/ Our host, Stacey, shares highlights and resources from this past year on our latest #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #digitalhealth In memory of @DrNadiaChaudhri, check out her Twitter feed for info on better #patientoutcomes and care. Our host, Stacey, shares highlights and resources from this past year on our latest #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #digitalhealth Check out @DrEricB's AHealthcareZ for in-depth industry information. Our host, Stacey, shares highlights and resources from this past year on our latest #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #digitalhealth Thanks to @healthbjk, @olearykm, @nikillinit, @OliviaWebbC, @JConnol, @GistHealthcare, @DarwinHealth, @_GoozNews, and @HealthChrism for putting out great content. Our host, Stacey, shares highlights and resources from this past year on our latest #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #digitalhealth We appreciate and recommend following @julesyoo for more #healthcareinsights. Our host, Stacey, shares highlights and resources from this past year on our latest #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #digitalhealth Thanks to @RSiddhanti and @halac_ezequiel for their event organizing in NYC. Our host, Stacey, shares highlights and resources from this past year on our latest #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #digitalhealth We love #podcasts! Check out some of Stacey's recs in our show notes, including @techguy, @ZeevNeuwirth, @Eric_S_Weaver, @raemwoods, @Alexolgin, @The_HCBiz, @RonBarshop, and @PharmacyPodcast. #healthcare #healthcarepodcast Thanks to the following #healthcarepublications as well: @statnews, @HITHealthIMPACT, @JAMA_current, and @nodehealthorg. Recent past interviews: Click a guest's name for their latest RHV episode! Stacey Richter (INBW32), Dr Steve Schutzer (Encore! EP294), Lisa Trumble, Jeb Dunkelberger, Dr Ian Tong, Mike Schneider, Peter Hayes, Paul Simms, Dr Steven Quimby, Dr David Carmouche (EP343), Christin Deacon, Gary Campbell, Kristin Begley, David Contorno (AEE17), David Contorno (EP339), Nikki King, Olivia Webb, Brandon Weber, Stacey Richter (INBW30), Brian Klepper (AEE16), Brian Klepper (EP335), Sunita Desai, Care Plans vs Real World (EP333), Dr Tony DiGioia, Al Lewis, John Marchica, Joe Connolly, Marshall Allen  

Ciao Huntys! Well, we are gagged, gooped, shooketh by yet another finale that surprised us. Thank the Lord, our beloved Italian-Dutch Nutella Versace joins us to break it down. While Amsterdam is back in lockdown, Nutella was lucky enough to host the annual Aidsfonds World AIDS Day fundraiser. While we are utterly convinced by the talent of the stunning glamazon Elektra Bionic, we're still wondering how the report card measures up in comparison. Beyond that, we are also a bit confused by Drag Italia's formatting, fashions, Miss Congeniality crowning, and the traumatic stories of the contests with the families. Hopefully, like the many Drag Races that have come before, now the show has arrived the healing can begin. About our guest! Nutella Versace is THAT delicious bitch. She is the funny and sexy Italian bombshell from Amsterdam. She recently WON the Snatch Game at The Cunnilingus Show at Boom Chicago comedy club in Amsterdam. FOLLOW NUTELLA Instagram: nutellaversacedrag Youtube: Nutella Versace FOLLOW MIJON Instagram: majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntys Facebook: whisperinghuntys Tiktok: whisperinghuntys Twitter: huntywhispering Whispering Huntys Website Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

Hiiiiiiiii! Zomg, it's been forever. We know, but don't worry. Whispering Huntys is still here, the love is still here, and rest is good for the soul. After a brief hiatus, we return with the finale of Canada's Drag Race with the fantastic Canadian psycho-therapist by day and Drag King by night Cyril Cinder! Huntys, get ready for this kiki CAUSE WE GO IN. What can one do to support Drag Kings? Why are all the queens coming for Icesis Couture Age? Have they even heard or seen La Pussetta? What a season! Gay parents, gay dads, sobriety, Asian drag queens, body image, conservative culture, adoption, pronouns! Also, Drag Race Italia you are putting us through, but we'll hold space for you! Canada's Drag Race was different in all the best ways and it is time to celebrate!!!! Enjoy! About our guest: Cyril Cinder is a dynamic and dramatic drag king known for his unique concepts and high energy performances. One of the stars of Drag Heals season 2 on OutTV, Amazon Prime, and Apple TV, he loves introducing kings to new audiences. A fierce advocate for queerdos and oddballs everywhere, he wins over hearts and minds when he takes the stage and/or microphone as a performer and MC. Known for producing diverse, inclusive, and electrifying shows across both physical and virtual stages, Cyril Cinder brings together seasoned entertainers with new and emerging talent looking to break into the world of drag. He takes pride in being a positive role model for his community and encouraging others to tap into their unique strengths and abilities. Also recognized as a seasoned host, Cyril Cinder can trade witty repartee with the quickest drag queens in the business when given a microphone. Hailing from Ottawa, ON, Cyril Cinder made his drag debut in 2014. Since then he has performed internationally and has dedicated fan-bases in Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal, and beyond. He has also won multiple titles and competitions, including Mr. Capital Pride 2019 and is the original King BoiPKG, and has performed alongside some of the world's greatest drag kings. With experience in television, film, and radio, he is an adaptable professional up for any challenge. When he's not doing drag, Cyril Cinder is a licensed psychotherapist and works closely with the LGBT2SQIA+ community. He calls from his life experience to advocate for queer rights, mental health, disabled rights, and other social justice causes. FOLLOW CYRIL Instagram: cyrilcinder Facebook: cyril.cinder Tiktok: cyrilcinder Twitch: cyrilcinder FOLLOW MIJON Instagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntys Facebook: whisperinghuntys Tiktok: whisperinghuntys Twitter: huntywhispering Whispering Huntys Website Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

Could there be any more drag competitions happening at the same time? Drag Race France is coming soon and the UK, Canada, and Italy are airing at the same time!!!!!!!!!! It is the best of times for Nick and the worst of times for Mijon. But, for you, Huntys, we pushed through and watched all three. Day after Trans Remembrance Day, we salute our queer family and would like to draw attention to those lost and the need to educate ourselves and be stronger allies to the trans community. Period. On the pod: Drag Race UK Season 3 Episode 9 "The Pearly Gates Roast" Vanity Milan's fashion finally was en point throughout! Ella crushed this roast!  Oh, if only Krystal could have gotten more time on the road as a performer!  Was this one of the lip syncs of the season?  Hooray for Ella...probably, right?  Drag Race Italia Season 1 Epsiode 1 "Ciao Italia" Zaddy alert!  Also, what is their budget?  Do we care about Priscilla?  Canada's Drag Race Season 2 Episode 6 "The Roast of Brooke Lynn Hytes" What on earth was this “ball” supposed to be? Ball  Do we already have our top 4? Do we deserve Traci Melchore and Amanda Bruegel? Brook Lynne Heights Vs Brad Goreski (Yikes)! Can I get a Crochet challenge! FOLLOW NICK Instagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJON Instagram:majorzuCheck out Mijon's Linktree! FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

Another week, another double something. What on earth is happening that 2 billion new franchises are happening. It is so hard to keep up.  Luckily, we have our British darling from across the pond this week, Coco Couture! We dish about everything: hosting drag brunch Kitty Scott-Claus, life before and after lockdown, the new Adele, and trashy British TV. Happy belated birthday to our lovely Nick Probst. We love you Nick and thanks again, Coco. On the pod: Drag Race UK Episode 8, “Bra Wars” Do we need double of everything?  How are people just waking up about Kitty Scott-Claus now?  Did Krystal Versaceactually get a growth edit?  Vanity's growth edit.  Canada's Drag Race Episode 5, “Bye Flop” What's going on with the Brat Pack? What's bugging Eve 6000? Who still missed Choriza May? Us!  FOLLOW COCO COUTUREInstagram: cococouturequeenTwitter: cococoutureukTiktok: cococouturequeenFOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzuLinktree: https://linktr.ee/Mijonzulu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

What a week! Vanity Milan lives to see another slay, a timed challenge that could not possibly be real, we are still confused as to who and what Grimes is, Eve 6000 has 6000 problems, and Cynthia Kiss has risen from the dead. Coming to you from a vacation in the Catskills, Mijon is falling love with the country and Nick is all in favor. Like upstate, this is an intimate episode with just your two co-hosts as we go in on the franchises. So, sit back, relax, and enjoy, Huntys!Drag Race UK Season 3 Episode 7, “Miss Fugly Beauty Pageant" Kitty got a win!  Vanity Milan figured out the gain. Why drag queens need partners!  How did Vanity last this long! The clock wasn't real.  Was Krystal actually stretching herself if she brought that costume to Drag Race?  The lip sync was VANITY'S! Don't hate on Scarlett Harlett's Rhythm. The double elimination explained. Ella Vaday's Cockiness! Canada's Drag Race Season 2 Episode 4, “Snatch Game - Canada Season 2” The underwhelming reading challenge. Can you name two Grimes songs?  Pythia was hilarious and maybe the moment. Thank you, Canada for the diversity but can the ethnic people not leave first Snatch game- good choices, inconsistent execution, but some were GREAT Props to Cynthia Kiss for the comeback arc!  Eve 6000's reveal???? FOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

Cybil War is finally done hiding from the pandemic and was getting ready for a show! The world and Halloween have been missing her! We learn all about the phenomenon of “strip pubs” in the UK. Then, we catch up on Cybil's House (her formerly monthly, but now quarterly party at The White Swan) and the trials and tribulations throwing queer parties have faced over the pandemic. Then, is straight into holds bared episode of the shade, tea, and realness. Shoutout to friend of Cybil, Merrie Cherry, for the excellent work on Dragula. On the pod: Drag Race UK Season 3 Episode 5 “Snatch Game - UK Season 3” Double elimination after the double save? Did anyone actually bomb Snatch Game? Did Scarlett Harlett actually just make that all up on the spot?  God bless the TOWIE representation on the Snatch! Why is Ru so pushy about characters? If Cheryl Hole was your bestie, would you do the same Snatch Game character?  Is Ella Vaday finally peaking?  What was up with these Fruity outfits?  Why we are dumbing done sexuality on Drag Race?  Canada's Drag Race Season 2 Episode 3 “Screech” How is Brad doing on the show?  Is it possible to always cast superstars on Drag Race?  Adriana literally came to she the girls how it was done.  Brooke Lynn Hytes' Sandra Dee revamp!  Did they trust Brooke Lynn Hytes to host the first season?  What is the difference between Violet Chatchki and Krystal Versace?  Could they have gotten a better Fefe Dobson song? Adriana put the cast to shame with that look!   FOLLOW CYBIL WARInstagram: thecybilwar   FOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

We are back in Ireland this week with Victoria Secret who honored us with her presence before popping to the George in Dublin for one of her first live gigs now that bars are open for business! Irelan is 95% and putting many countries to shame. Well done!! Victoria has recently retired from Snapchat and we are all broken-hearted about it, but we understand she needs to focus on what works, which is her! Could you believe the group issue numbers in Canada and week without a winner in the UK? That we are seriously mourning the losses of the two queens that brought so much to each competition that were eliminated this week. Mais, c'est la vie! Canada's Drag Race Season 2 Episode 2 “Under the Big Top” Traci is finally back!  What was this challenge?  Why are Rusical's so hard?  Brooklyn's New Budget! Ocean's shoes were...(no words). Also, apparently, we are very frustrated by Hollywood musicals.  Drag queens don't need to sing, they need to do drag! Our sweet Océan!  Drag Race UK Season 3 Episode 5 “Draglexa” Can we just repeat the best of challenges?  Charity didn't buck her look, but should she have?  Drag Race Categories are so crafty!  Can we get some challenge repeats?  Is living your truthing  Have the young queens really gotten to the bars before getting on the show?  Scarlett is the talking head of the season!  Kitty Scot Clause is the secret assassin of the season!  FOLLOW THE VICTORIA SECRETInstagram: victoriasecretdublin  Facebook: victoriasecretIETiktok: victoriasecretdublinCheck our her Linktree! FOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

How lucky are we to have the darling Adam Johannesson grace on the podcast this week. An illustrator and graphic designer, Adam's drawing of queens like Miss Fame and Violet Chachki garnered so much attention that queens themselves started following and reposting. We get to hear about how he collaborated with Miss Fame and has recently featured The Queer Bible: Essays by Jack Guinness a gorgeously illustrated collection of essays written by today's queer heroes.On the pod: Drag Race UK Season 3, Episode 3, “Great Outdoors” What type of Camp was it?  Is Rupaul only searching for glamour?  Why did they drag our Victoria Scone's departure?  Did you catch the Tammie Brown callback?  HIV/AIDS education on Drag Race!  What is Ella Vday missing?  The meteoric rise of Scarlett Harlett.  Tearing up your dress is not a mood.  About our guest:Adam Johannesson is an illustrator and graphic designer. Originally from Scotland, he now lives and works in London. In the day he works full time as a graphic designer and at night, illustrates drag queens. Adam has worked on various projects for world famous drag performers such as Violet Chachki, Miss Fame and  A'Whora and his latest project is an illustration of RuPaul in the 2021 book 'The Queer Bible'; a collection of essays written about queer heroes.FOLLOW ADAM JOHANNESSON Instagram: adamjohanneson Adam's Website FOLLOW NICK Instagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJON Instagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

It is Tulip planting season in Holland, so we circled back again to plant some seeds for Drag Race Holland Season 3 and to speak with Drag Queen extraordinaire Hoax LeBeau (Remy could never). This 11-year-old drag-entrepreneur got her first job offer after attending a theme party and turn that into a drag, DJ, and host career! She also founded The Drag Agency to empower other drag royalty to make that good money! Hoax gives the full scoop on her relationship to Nyx and 3Nyx and also lets' us know about her own club night Traffamafia (Crossdresser Mafia). Oh, the times we will have if ever get to Holland! On the pod: Drag Race Holland Season 2 Holland 1st trans winner. How is Holland processing?  Why did Vanessa Van Cartier have such a rough time in Belgium's pageant system? Why representation matters? What are POCs always the first out the door?  Why Drag is genderless.  Drag Race UK Season 3, episode 2, “Dragoton” The knee injury!!!  Should Victoria Scone just come back for season 4?   Are they filming these seasons too quickly and endangering the queens? Krystal Versace's harsh attitude. Trigger Warning: Orange Veronica Green's wardrobe choices Krystal Versace's redemption arc WHAT WAS THIS MAXI CHALLENGE? About our guest:Hoax started hosting during gay pride of 2011 at the door of Supperclub Amsterdam for the party Rumour Has It. Since then, she's become one of the most frequently asked hosts in Amsterdam. Hoax hosts. Hoax performs. Hoax'll do anything for money.  As a classically trained actor, Hoax has something that most drag performers don't have: The ability to transform and take on a character Hoax graduated from Utrecht School of Arts (HKU) in Acting in 2009 and has worked as a freelance actor ever since; working with some of the best companies and directors in Holland including: Het Zuidelijk Toneel / Matthijs Rümke, Golden Palace / Ingrid Kuijpers, Het Woud Ensemble / Christiaan Mooi, De Toneelmakerij / Ad de Bont & Liesbeth Coltof,  and many more. When Hoax hosts your party, Hoax lives by the golden rule set by the legendary Andy Warhol: 'It's a dictatorship at the door and a democracy on the dance floor.' Hoax has hosted several of the hottest parties in The Netherlands including: Italo Elite, (2011–2012), Homogenic (2012), Rumour Has It (2011–2012), Afterfest (2011–Now), Prefest (2012–Now), Disco Total (2011–2013), Room (2012), Cabaret Noir (2013), Reddingsfest (2013–Now), Milkshake Festival (2012), and CHAOS (2012-2013). As a performer, she's performed at Wasteland, Pink Istanbul, Oddball, Lalaland festival, BNN's Ruben vs. Sophie, Spuiten&Slikken, Taboobar, and Amstel54 amongst others. Hoax has also performed with the Trippin Angels on several occasions and is a part of the dj duo cu2nt (with her drag sister Heisa Jynx). Hoax spins at a lot of Dutch clubs and parties on a regular basis and has had her own club night Traffamafia since 2018. She also gives tours around the Amsterdam redlight district for Original Tour and works as a freelance makeup artist and stylist. As a makeup artist, she's done shows for Bas Kosters, most looks for entertainer Sven Ratzke, and for several club nights in and around Amsterdam. As a stylist her first publication was in Ferry Manly magazine in July 2013. And, later that year, the new videos of the famous Dutch rock band Within Temptation.  FOLLOW HOAX LEBEAU Instagram: HoaxLeBeau and thedragagencyFacebook: hoaxlebeauLinktree: hoaxlebeau FOLLOW NICK Instagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJON Instagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

Hurray for the Vanessa Van Cartier! Welcome British Drag! And, Happy Belated Rotterdam pride. We are busy, we are swamped and there is just so much good drag. This week we are joined by deep friend of the pod, Drag Costumier (featured on Drag Race Uk and Drag Race España), and Fashion Designer Phillip Brown. We get a full scoop of news from across the pond and then deep dive into the finale gave us a queen that we deserve but also gave us a lot of confusion. But when drag is as good as what Holland has been serving, who cares!  On the Pod: Drag Race UK Season 3 Episode 1, "The Return of Royalty" The curse of Oh Reinette:  The Macarena and Anubis both left Drag Race first.  Tiana Biscuit, Coco Couture Mijon's new drag name: Bubble N Squeak  Young Queens vs Camp Queens Dragging Drag Queens Victoria Scone walked ready to work.  Was River Medway runaway actually that bad? Charity Kase is bringing it!  Why so many baby queens? Drag Race Holland Season 2 Episode 8, "Drag Race Holland Season 2 Grand Finale"  We love the mini-Ru-Union Special.  Hurray for Tabitha! Black on the Runway. Really?  Vanessa Interview skills! Who is Vivaldi? Discovering Tits on Drag Race. Is RuPaul rejecting cancel culture? Kita Mean saved Down Under. Why is the Death Flop so popular in the UK? Why Drag race is a  TV show with competition aspects About our guest: Drag Costumier, Fashion Designer, Illustrator and leading Xena: Warrior Princess scholar, Phillip Brown is Northumberland, England's resident queer creative. Taking inspiration from strong women his work explores camp, tragedy, and reimagined histories with garments recently showcased on RuPaul's Drag Race UK Season 2 and 3 and also Drag Race España Season 1. His brand 'Oh! Reinette' seeks to support and encourage drag and queer expression. FOLLOW PHILLIP BROWN AND OH REINETTEInstagram: oh_reinette and self_whore_traitInstagram:  FOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

What the actual F*$% Y'all. We gagged, we are gooped by the cheek, the nerve, the audacity, and the gumption of this final four. I mean. I mean! Our thoughts and prayers to Keta Minaj. Luckily, in our time of need, deep friend of the pod, Noah Millman (events producer, professor, and fitness savant) joins us with Miss Cartier (Matt Geuze), the daughter of Envy Peru (technically the granddaughter of Vanessa Van Cartier and Tabitha)! We learn about how Envy unlocked Miss Cartier's feminine side one night in Paris. The rest is her-story! Up-date from Holland - drag brunches are happening and bars reopening from 4 pm-12 am for the vaccinated, but if you are a tourist, times are tough with daily PCR tests! We also learn about a party called Monday Muse at Bar Rouge, which done by Totally Events (a POC and Trans inclusive events production company :)) On the pod:  Miss Cartier spills the tea on Keta Minaj's reaction to the episode watch party! Why did the runway look like a design challenge? Nobody won the challenge, right? What are Fred's actual judging criteria? - just make shocking tv? - 42:50  There is one rule to rule them all! Who could possibly win now?  Could we get an Art Simone save? Holland has elevated the Mini-challenge! What is a Miffy?  Ferry Doedens is fine as hell!  About our guests:  Noah Millman is a fun and quirky drag events producer, known for collaborating with various organizations. Some of the various brands he worked with previously are Klub Kids, Totally Events, The Drag Agency, Tuckstop Productions, Pride Amsterdam, Youseum, Boom Chicago, and more.  Besides creating his own successful Drag Brunches such as Queen Your Plate, he also runs around town teaching psychology, fitness classes, and contemplating why he never has free time. If you ever need to find a bubbly helping hand, or just want to check him out, you can find him on his socials or drop an email at noah@millmancreative.com Miss Cartier (Matt Geuze) is a chique, Dutch drag performer with Parisian flair. As a drag daughter of Envy Peru, she's working hard to follow in her footsteps. By day, Matt is gracing the streets of Amsterdam on red bottoms, as manager of Christian Louboutin in Amsterdam and Rotterdam, but by night Miss Cartier is bringing you glamour with live jazz vocals. You can find her on Instagram, on Videoland in the two seasons of the TV show “Like Monica”, or in magazines. FOLLOW THE NOAH MILLMANInstagram: nmillman   FOLLOW MISS CARTIERInstagram: misscartierofficialInstagram: mattgeuze FOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

Happy Bushwig and congrats to one of our two new Miss Bushwigs! On the pod, we are joined by the fabulous Toronto writer and podcaster Brynn Byrne (be sure to check out the That Was a Show? podcast).  From across the pond, we reconnected with our spicy Dutch diva The Lady Galore. Brynn starts us off with the full scoop on Canada's election and current Covidian journey before sharing local drag info. If we ever make it to Canada, we'll be attending drag brunch at the Gladstone Hotel in the West End of Toronto. Lady Galore is hot off the presses from publishing her book Glitter Maakt Alles Beter: Hoe Lady Galore Mijn Leven Redde - the first Dutch book about drag! We were lucky to catch her because she was actually performing at Patty Pam Pam's Holy Brunch along with Reggy B!On the pod: Drag Race Holland Season 2:  Why do rules mean nothing Holland?  Did other queens besides Vanessa know? What did Willam actually do? If Vivaldi had a phone, please explain that plastic deforestation dress? If Lady Galore already has a stage at Milkshake Festival, has she won season 2? Should Tabitha have been in the top 4? Can Vaness still win after the incident?  The Gaymoji challenge!  Camp still needs to be funny. Should Puny have won?  Why so many breastplates? Explaining Merol's song. Who should get the crown Kita MInaj and My Little Puny are BABY QUEENS?  About our guests:  Brynn Byrne is a pop culture-obsessed writer and podcaster from Toronto, Ontario. She is the co-creator, producer and co-host of That Was a Show? a podcast about failed or forgotten sitcoms from the 80s and 90s. When Brynn isn't binging obscure sitcoms or Drag Race she can either be found struggling to write the next great screenplay or singing show tunes to her cat Gizmo. This Diva isn't your regular Queen honey, she's Fierce, Legendary, and Galore! We loved her so much she is back for more!  Lady Galore a staple of Amsterdam and Dutch Drag since 2009. Lady Galore has performed all over: Shanghai, Tokyo, New York, Chicago, Sydney, Melbourne, Paris, Berlin, Belfast, Glasgow, and Stockholm, just to name a few.  After 200 solo shows, it was time to step up her game and Lady Galore invented a couple of huge concepts like  “the GALORE Stage” on Europes Biggest gay festival “Milkshake Festival” and she is programming Europes biggest gay ski event “European Gay Ski Week” where she invites tons of Queens from all over the world to perform and show you the art of Drag.  Besides performing live on stage, Lady Galore acted in 2 movies and has won several awards/prizes for the documentary: Galore. Made by Dyzlo film. A film about her career, traveling the world, an extraordinary lifestyle, and winning everyone's heart. In 2019 she hosted “The Diva In Mij”, the first-ever Dutch TV-show presented by Drag Queens together with Envy Peru and Hoax Le Beau.  Looking ahead, in 2021, she will release her first book about her life and the dutch Drag scene. Last but not least, Lady Galore has been honored to be an Amsterdam Gay Pride Ambassador and has been organizing the Gay Pride Boat with Drag Queens United yearly since 2012.  “Let's make more GLAMOUR!” FOLLOW THE LADY GALOREInstagram: the_lady_galore  Facebook: theladygalore/Youtube: sanderdenbaas FOLLOW BRYNN BYRNE Instagram: thatwasashowInstagram: brynnabyrne Check out That Was a Show? Podcast.  FOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

What a week! Queen Kylie!!!!!!!!!! The love of Vanessa Van Cartier. Family Resemblance (normally, gross, but this week was fire (besides that lip-sync - EW)) Also, Henri who? Apparently, Ida was the one we all should have all been preparing for. This week, we'd also like to draw attention to friend-of-the-show and drag queen Essa Noche whose apartment was completely flooded by Ida. She, along with many Brooklyn queers, suffered losses during the flooding in NYC and we like to support drag queens however we can.  If you can check out her Insta and Venmo and send her some love and cash money. Also, Labor Day and pandemic insurance have come and gone (Yikes!), so be kind to yourselves as you find work. Whatever happens, please don't settle for something that doesn't "spark joy". And, who better to show how it is done, than Alicia of Nails by Glamazon the part-time lawyer part-time custom nail artist who makes nails for Eureka, Manilla, Ra'Jah, and countless other Drag Divas! Follow your passion and maybe your passion will be showcased all around the world. :) Alicia came on the pod to serve Drag Race superfan energy. We get nail tips and learn all about how she partners with our favs! She also teaches us about some fabulous regional queer spaces: Charlies in Phoenix, Club Axis in Columbus, and some of the best drag queens in Baltimore Brooklyn Heights (the American one) and Iyana Deschanel. And, finally, we get to hear about the beautiful queer love story of her own.

Another week and another Hurricane/Tropical Storm! What the hell is going on? Luckily, we still have drag race and two fabulous guests. Atlanta based award-winning photographer Toby of Just Toby served us amazing insider tea about Nicole Paige Brooks' Boots, how Mariah Paris Balenziaga and Coco Montrose birthed his Photography career, and Wussy Mag. We also learned about so cute queer ATL Spots: Whoops (Gay Sports Bar), Midtown Moon, and The Hideaway. From across the pond, we were also joined by drag sisters and real-life couple Amy Astoria and Victoria Vyper who hail from Utrecht in Holland. Would believe that Holland is allowing sports gatherings but still won't let people gather in bars? Literal discrimination against nightlife. Luckily we learned about so cool queer parties: Rubber and Lapin.  Then we dove deep into the Holland much-improved version of a Rusical!  All Stars 6:  If you get eliminated should you still win All Stars?  Why we have no idea when All Stars was ending. Do we actually have time to watch all this Drag Content? How crazy is it that Lawrence Chaney's win is for less than a year?  Why Bimini is still a winner. Who had the best monologue?  How amazing was Kylie Sonique Love's monologue. Eureka has brought it home to the big girls! Did Akiera do a BenDeLaCreme?  Drag Race Holland: Does Vivaldi know what trees are? Why Drag queens need to be involved with Politics.  Should Vanessa really have been in the bottom?  Tabitha is the moment! We are Tina Burner Stans! Is the translation is better?  About our guests: Amy Astoria and Victoria Vyper are Dutch drag queens living in the city of Utrecht. They are a couple in 'real' life and since 6 years they are also sisters in drag. Since then, they have evolved their drag and are now well known queens in the Dutch scene. Their main goal is to entertain the crowd, but also to contribute to the societal debate with regard to LGBTQ+ issues is important for them. Two years ago, Amy and Victoria started AbsolutelyDrag, an entertainment concept also aiming to give opportunities to new drag queens and kings. Amy and Victoria do not only envision their looks, but also create the outfits from scratch. Sometimes it feels like an additional full time job: Amy is a certified auditor at the largest warehouse in the country and Victoria is a researcher and program manager at a university. Currently they are working on several new concepts and even their own theater show. Socials: Toby is an Atlanta based award winning photographer, who has traveled the world photographing queens since 2014 when he started Just Toby.  Toby is an advocate to the LGBTQIA community, event producer and on the Board of Directors of Atlanta Pride Committee.   FOLLOW AMY ASTORIA AND VICTORIA VYPERInstagram: Amy_Astoria  Victoria_Vyper Absolutely Drag Website  FOLLOW JUST TOBYInstagram: JustTobyMe Twitter: JustTobyMe  Facebook: JustTobyMe   JustToby Website Just Toby Featured in The Advocate FOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

This conversation starts out talking about the RUC, which is a committee run by the AMA, who has the sole source contract with CMS to figure out how many RVUs any given procedure or service is worth. There are roughly four times as many specialists on this RUC committee as PCPs. You might be able to see where this is going, but let me let our guest in this healthcare podcast, Brian Klepper, explain how primary care got trampled by the goings-on. Brian Klepper is a longtime healthcare analyst and former CEO of the National Business Coalition on Health. You can learn more by emailing Brian at bklepper@worksitehealthadvisors.com. Brian Klepper, PhD, is a healthcare analyst, commentator, and entrepreneur. He is a Principal of Healthcare Performance Inc, a healthcare strategy and business development practice, and CEO/Principal of Worksite Health Advisors, a benefits consultancy focused on linking high-performance/high-impact healthcare organizations with purchasers. He founded and moderates a popular professional healthcare Listserv, Healthcare Hackers, which is a discussion forum on healthcare high performance and value and which has about 850 participating benefits managers, benefits advisors, and innovative vendors. An active author and speaker, Dr. Klepper has provided healthcare commentary to CBS Evening News, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, and the Washington Post. He has published widely in healthcare trade and academic publications and in newspapers nationally. Brian is a regular contributor to Employee Benefit News, the Health Affairs Blog, The Health Care Blog, The Doctor Weighs In, Kevin MD, and other expert healthcare blogs. He is a reviewer for Health Affairs and The Journal of Ambulatory Care Management. He is an advisor to the Lundberg Institute and to several for-profit healthcare organizations. In his spare time, Brian is an offshore sailor. 01:00 What is the RUC? 03:18 What is the goal of the specialists in the RUC? 04:32 Why health plans and not health systems? 06:55 “All this time, the hospital community was waging war against the HMO community.” 07:59 “The incentives that have been at play have been very formidable.” 08:23 “Primary care has developed a reputation for being the easy specialty … and it's just not so.” You can learn more by emailing Brian at bklepper@worksitehealthadvisors.com. @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #anexpertexplains #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp What is the RUC? @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #anexpertexplains #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp What is the goal of the specialists in the RUC? @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #anexpertexplains #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp Why health plans and not health systems? @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #anexpertexplains #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp “All this time, the hospital community was waging war against the HMO community.” @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #anexpertexplains #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp “The incentives that have been at play have been very formidable.” @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #anexpertexplains #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp “Primary care has developed a reputation for being the easy specialty … and it's just not so.” @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #anexpertexplains #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp Recent past interviews: Click a guest's name for their latest RHV episode! Brian Klepper (EP335), Sunita Desai, Care Plans vs Real World (EP333), Dr Tony DiGioia, Al Lewis, John Marchica, Joe Connolly, Marshall Allen, Andrew Eye, Naomi Fried, Dr Rishi Wadhera, Dr Mai Pham, Nicole Bradberry and Kelly Conroy, Lee Lewis, Dr Arshad Rahim, Dr Monica Lypson, Dr Rich Klasco, Dr David Carmouche (AEE15), Christian Milaster, Dr Grace Terrell, Troy Larsgard, Josh LaRosa, Dr David Carmouche (EP316), Bob Matthews, Dr Douglas Eby (AEE14), Dr Sheldon Weiss, Dan Strause and Drew Leatherberry, Dr Douglas Eby (EP312)

In this healthcare podcast, I'm talking with Brian Klepper. If you haven't heard of him, Brian's a longtime healthcare analyst and former CEO of the National Business Coalition on Health. This interview takes off like a shot, as most of my conversations with Brian Klepper do. We're talking about primary care and its various iterations. We start out with Exhibit A—the HMO version of primary care from the '90s. This is a great comparator to really get a handle on what's going on today. During the heyday of HMOs (back in the '90s), primary care was basically a glorified gatekeeper kind of doing two things. On one hand, they were restricting access. It wasn't an accident that it was really hard to get an appointment with a PCP.  On the other hand, it also wasn't an accident that, once you got there, the PCP only had 7 minutes to spend with you, which basically meant that you left with an appointment to see a specialist at, of course, the health system that probably had just bought that PCP practice. Everybody's happy then, right? Specialist volume goes up, they make a ton of money for the health system, plans make a ton of money because they make a percentage of total healthcare spend … Oh right, everybody's happy except the patient who can't get care and the PCP who can't do their job. By the way, for more information on why the '90s version of the HMO industry crashed and burned, listen to my conversation with Alex Jung on this exact topic. A big part of the “why” really actually took me by surprise.  But back to primary care … Today, in broad strokes, we have three kinds of PCPs. And when I say three kinds of PCPs, we're not really counting urgent cares or what amounts to urgent cares in that mix—meaning, not counting a lot of the retail clinics because they don't really manage patient care like you'd hope a PCP would manage care. Last I checked, none of them were managing much more than an episodic visit. You can't manage a chronic condition in 15 minutes. So, like I said, there's three kinds of PCPs that are around today; and let's call the first kind the OPCP, the original PCP. This version of the PCP office is primarily fee for service (FFS). Maybe they have a couple of capitated contracts. But the distinguishing factor isn't really what their payer mix is. It's that they're not taking on much risk or any risk of real consequence. Second, we have direct primary care doctors. This group tends to cut out insurers and work directly with either employers or patients themselves. They take a monthly fee, and, in general, a patient can see them however much they need to. Again, no risk or little risk is assumed here beyond the primary care services themselves that are rendered. Third, we have what Brian calls industrialized primary care—or some people call it advanced primary care, or APC—but I'd probably call it something different. I'd call it “taking risk for the full continuum of care” primary care. Maybe I wouldn't even call it primary care at all because this third category really is starting to color outside of the lines of primary care. This third iteration requires many things to accomplish. It requires an unimpeachable relationship with the patient; you cannot be successful with this otherwise. It requires great virtual/digital capabilities. It also requires data—data to help ensure that care gaps are filled but also to make sure that patients are referred to high-quality, high-value specialists downstream who will actually create outcomes. It also includes optimizing specialty pharmaceutical usage, for example. Brian gets into this and how a state employee health plan is on track to save $1.3 billion in this fashion. Brian believes that this third iteration of primary care—this APC industrialized primary care—is the third leg of a three-legged stool that is needed to transform healthcare. If you must know, the second leg is identification and the use of high-performing specialty services; and the third is value-based reimbursement environment. Most of the second half of this conversation with Brian is about why there's just a flurry of investment into various forms of these advanced or just maybe even regular primary care models and how they might evolve moving forward. I ask Brian about Carbon Health and their recent claim that they can do primary care with about 25% to 30% EBITA, even at Medicare FFS rates. So, there's that. One last thing: Next week, we'll be posting an “Ask an Expert” with Brian Klepper, where he gives the backstory about how the RUC—that AMA committee—basically killed primary care. So, come back for that show after you're done with this one. It's a plot full of intrigue, that's for sure. You can learn more by emailing Brian at bklepper@worksitehealthadvisors.com. Brian Klepper, PhD, is a healthcare analyst, commentator, and entrepreneur. He is a Principal of Healthcare Performance Inc, a healthcare strategy and business development practice, and CEO/Principal of Worksite Health Advisors, a benefits consultancy focused on linking high-performance/high-impact healthcare organizations with purchasers. He founded and moderates a popular professional healthcare Listserv, Healthcare Hackers, which is a discussion forum on healthcare high performance and value and which has about 850 participating benefits managers, benefits advisors, and innovative vendors. An active author and speaker, Dr. Klepper has provided healthcare commentary to CBS Evening News, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, and the Washington Post. He has published widely in healthcare trade and academic publications and in newspapers nationally. Brian is a regular contributor to Employee Benefit News, the Health Affairs Blog, The Health Care Blog, The Doctor Weighs In, Kevin MD, and other expert healthcare blogs. He is a reviewer for Health Affairs and The Journal of Ambulatory Care Management. He is an advisor to the Lundberg Institute and to several for-profit healthcare organizations. In his spare time, Brian is an offshore sailor. 05:10 Is the HMO model of primary care a good model? 07:48 “Industrialized medicine is exciting.” 08:59 What does primary care have the opportunity to do? 09:21 “The problem that goes along with that is that now immense amounts of money are being infused into primary care organizations.” 10:15 Where does direct primary care and advanced primary care fit into this model? 13:35 “At the end of the day, what primary care really needs to be about is … the management of life issues as well.” 14:05 EP295 with Rebecca Etz, PhD.14:19 “Better relationships quantifiably translate to better care.” 21:48 “Almost nobody in healthcare wants any of this to happen.” 23:58 Why the huge amounts of money being invested into primary care is actually a big problem. 28:11 “We should be able to get wildly better health outcomes for about 40% to 45% of the money that we're currently spending.” You can learn more by emailing Brian at bklepper@worksitehealthadvisors.com. @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp Is the HMO model of primary care a good model? @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp “Industrialized medicine is exciting.” @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp What does primary care have the opportunity to do? @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp “The problem that goes along with that is that now immense amounts of money are being infused into primary care organizations.” @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp Where does direct primary care and advanced primary care fit into this model? @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp “At the end of the day, what primary care really needs to be about is … the management of life issues as well.” @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp “Better relationships quantifiably translate to better care.” @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp “Almost nobody in healthcare wants any of this to happen.” @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp Why the huge amounts of money being invested into primary care is actually a big problem. @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp “We should be able to get wildly better health outcomes for about 40% to 45% of the money that we're currently spending.” @bklepper1 discusses #primarycare on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #digitalhealth #pcp Recent past interviews: Click a guest's name for their latest RHV episode! Sunita Desai, Care Plans vs Real World (EP333), Dr Tony DiGioia, Al Lewis, John Marchica, Joe Connolly, Marshall Allen, Andrew Eye, Naomi Fried, Dr Rishi Wadhera, Dr Mai Pham, Nicole Bradberry and Kelly Conroy, Lee Lewis, Dr Arshad Rahim, Dr Monica Lypson, Dr Rich Klasco, Dr David Carmouche (AEE15), Christian Milaster, Dr Grace Terrell, Troy Larsgard, Josh LaRosa, Dr David Carmouche (EP316), Bob Matthews, Dr. Douglas Eby (AEE14), Dr Sheldon Weiss, Dan Strause and Drew Leatherberry, Dr Douglas Eby (EP312), Ge Bai  

Could life be any crazier? Hurricane/Tropical Storm Henri tried to take down the East Coast (we survived). Cuomo's done! The game within a game was revealed and then we get a cliffhanger? Drag Race Holland's Snatch Game happened on Episode 3! Thank goodness we had the fine company of Nutella Versace - “Donatella's long lost Versace cousin” in the house to give us all the sass and help us understand all the Whos and Theys that Holland has to offer. Nutella just had a lovely Amsterdam Pride marching and returning to Pride's purpose (a riot) while flirting with the likes of famous Dutch author and TV personality Splinter Chabot. We also learned about Holy Brunch with Miss Patty Pam Pam & friends, which is still slayyyyying the game at the Koepelkerk, a unique 17th-century domed monument/ old church that is now an event space for the Renaissance Amsterdam Hotel. The show features a lot of Drag Race Holland queens as well as high-caliber local queens. And, since Nutella just WON the Snatch Game at the Cuniligus Show at Boom Chicago, who better to join us as we dissect Drag Race's hardest challenge and search for a sense of humor and wit.  All Stars 6:  The anticlimatic cliffhanger? How do we know when we are done with All Stars? Silky Nutmeg Ganache actually got separate persona lip-syncing correct! Scarlet's perfect Cher reference!  What if the game within a game was a parallel show? Will it be Eureka who wins and do we care?  Drag Race Holland: Love Masisi's journey is that of every queer person and every drag queen. Should Love Masisi have won the Talent Show? If something is hindering you in your performance get rid of it! Who are Kim Holland and Marijke Helwegen? Ivy as Cardi B! Really? Tabitha is the Kandy Muse of Drag Race Holland, right? Why single out Fred Van Leer for his biography after the scandal?  Why Nutella's worried about the Lip Syncing Look Queens on Drag Race!  About our guest: Nutella Versace is THAT delicious bitch. She is the funny and sexy Italian bombshell from Amsterdam. She just WON the Snatch Game at The Cunnilingus Show at Boom Chicago comedy club in Amsterdam. FOLLOW NUTELLA VERSACEInstagram: nutellaversacedrag Youtube: Nutella Versace FOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

What a week! Inner demons were rampant on both franchises. We learned about polydactylism. We still have no idea what the game within a game is. We learned about colorism in the black community. We got all the elder energy from Tabitha, Vannessa Van Cartier and Fred Van Leer's come to Jesus monologue to Love Masisi. And, now that World of Wonder is done advertising Drag Tots, maybe we can get back to our regular drag programming? Unclear. Either way, this week's filler All Stars episode was luckily balanced out by a stellar submission from Drag Race Holland. Apparently, Europe is still the moment. Sadly this week, we say goodbye to our fabulous summer intern. Celia, we love you and miss you already. Thank you for elevating the Huntys to higher heights. Also, on the pod today we have two queer creatives that are making uplifting spaces in Amersterdam and Brooklyn, NY! Eric Sosa, the bar and venue owner of C'mon Everybody and Good Judy talks to us about how he opened a queer Brooklyn bar in the middle of the pandemic. Friend of the pod Lolo Borella (formerly Beniza) joins us to get all those boots on the ground tea from Holland. All Stars: This was literally the worst episode of this season. Is this Drag Race or just a really long Drag Tots advertisement?? Kylie Sonique Love's positive energy is EVERYTHING! Eureka was a fighter during that lip-sync. We have no time for complaining! Ginger Minj and Trinity K. Bonet had amazing characters.  Ra'Jah O'Hara's joy is MAGNETIC! Holland: Reggy B can GET IT! Holland is serving so much trade.  Is Tabitha's personality getting lost in translation? Drag queens NEED to have a sense of humor.  I'm sorry but...what is an Instagram queen?? Vanessa Van Cartier is Envy Peru's drag mom and we can feel that same warmth. Love Masisi talking about colorism touched our hearts.  My Little Puny and Keta Minaj better be the top 2!! About our guestsEric Sosa is a queer Puerto Rican bar and venue owner based in NYC for 20+ years. Mr. Sosa got his start in entertainment working professionally on stage and transitioned to venue programming in the mid-2000s. He has played an integral role in music programming at various venues across NYC including the acclaimed Zipper Theatre and Galapagos Art Space. In addition to venue programming, Mr. Sosa has helped navigate the careers of artists under the management moniker Monarch Artists. His desire to create inclusive queer spaces led him to open C'mon Everybody in 2015 and the recently opened Good Judy in 2020. Lolo Benzina is an Italian (now almost Dutch) creative. After 16 years of working as a successful choreographer and modern dancer, Lolo got tired of the narrow confines that define the performing arts and began to flourish in the nightlife scene where a larger audience could be reached with more innovative performances. In 2015, Lolo was asked by Jennifer Hopelezz to organize Superball, a fierce battle of drag kings and queens. Today, this legendary event continues to influence queer and drag culture throughout Holland as well as Europe (No, really. It is now the biggest international Drag Ball in Europe), organized by Lolo, DjPrisz (Priss), Darling Peter, and Maayan Bengal. Lolo is the mother of the Vipers Squat through which she creates performance spaces and acts for many parties and festivals (Wasteland, Lowlands, Oerol festival). She is also a resident queen for Club Church and the House of Hopelezz, resident stylist for the team at Funhouse (Rapido Events), and has performed at parties in Paris, Istanbul, Italy, Belgium, and, basically, all over Europe.FOLLOW ERICInstagram: ericmsosa, cmoneverybodybk goodjudybk  FOLLOW LOLOInstagram: lolo.borella FOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

From politics to pride, this episode was a real podcaster party! Although Nick is currently MIA (Midwesterning In Action), we had an amazing chat with two fabulous guests: Marco Dreijer and Maxim Ibadov! Marco Dreijer is a Dutch arts and culture influencer and body positivity activist and is also the host of two podcasts: Ding-a-Dong, a Eurovision podcast, and Pruikentijd, a Drag Race podcast. Maxim Ibadov is a Brooklyn-based multimedia artist and fashionista, and hosts the political/pop culture podcast Let's Tawk! We discuss virtual queer spaces, Holland Pride, and the latest episodes of Holland and All Stars!On the pod this week: Drag Race Holland, season 2, episode 1, “Who's That Queen?” The judging panel has gotten so much better! Why we were immediately worried for Juicy Kutoure. Does Roem need a comeback? Vanessa Van Cartier gave off major Whispering Huntys energy at the talent show! Is pole dancing the new splits? The queens can actually dance this season! Can we have a Eurovision song on the show please? Did Love Masisi deserve to win? Rupaul's Drag Race All Stars, season 6, episode 8, “Snatch Game of Love” Ginger Minj slayed the snatch game! Why Whitney Houston was a bad choice for Trinity K. Bonet (period). Ra'Jah O'Hara is serving so much love and positivity this season! We're missing that Pandora realness :( Will Kylie Sonique Love be in the finale? Can this “Game Within a Game” hurry up please? The pop art runway had so much potential About our guests:Marco Dreijer is an Amsterdam-based arts and culture influencer and intersectional body positivity activist who focuses on the queer male identifying body experience. He vlogs about the newest exhibitions, writes reviews about new theater shows and movies, and highlights new and upcoming artists and creators. His mission is to make art and culture as a whole less elitist and more accessible to a larger and more inclusive audience so that more young people and a more bicultural audience can appreciate theaters and/or museums.As a body positivity activist, he tries to combat fatphobia in the queer community, and, with the #DatMeenJeNiet (You got to be kidding me) project, he fights discrimination and racism on online platforms. Next to that, he also is the producer and host of two podcasts; one about Eurovision Song contest (and soon about the American song contest) - Ding-a-Dong podcast and the other one about Rupaul's Drag Race - Pruikentijd (Wigtime).Maxim Ibadov is a Brooklyn-born and based multimedia artist and fashionista, who does Education at Park Avenue Armory, as well as freelance PR and Theatre work. Maxim, who grew up in a politically turmoiled Russia, turned their passion for social justice into a political/pop-culture podcast Let's Tawk!, where they and a different guest each week dissect prominent current events. FOLLOW MARCO:Instagram: @marcodreijer Twitter: @marcodreijer Website: https://www.decultuurvlogger.com/Youtube: https://youtube.com/channel/UCrnGnTnGHjepJWwIXpTJOyQLinktree: https://linktr.ee/marcodreijerFOLLOW MAXIM:Instagram: @maxim_fab, @letstawk_podcastTwitter: @lets_tawkkFOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

Hello, August! This week was a real party on the pod; not only did we have two fabulous guests joining us, Brooklyn DJ Luis Mancheno and drag jewelry artist Genesis Knight, but we also welcomed comedian and friend of the pod Griffin Leeds back as a special guest co-host! Luis Mancheno (DJ name Luis Fernando) produces queer, inclusive parties in Brooklyn and Manhattan; Genesis Knight is a fabulous drag queen who creates stunning rhinestone jewelry as worn by Tina Burner and Ginger Minj; and Griffin Leeds writes, produces, and performs comedy around NYC, and also hosts The Forger at Wonderville, a live game show adaptation of the award-winning board game of the same name. We talk about our favorite queer spaces, getting the España finale we deserved, and one of the best episodes of this All Stars season!On the pod this week: Drag Race España episode 9, “Drag Race España Grand Finale” We couldn't be happier with Carmen Farala's victory The queens love Supremme just as much as we do Did Pupi Poisson deserve a spot in the finale? Carmen continues to be the realest queen in the room Can we talk about that wig reveal? Why we need a Latinx drag race Rupaul's Drag Race All Stars season 6, episode 7, “Show Up Queen” Ra'Jah O'Hara is top 3 material  Pandora Boxx is getting a bad edit Trinity K. Bonet's win was definitely deserved Are these wins being handed out too diplomatically? We are living for Eureka! Trinity, Ra'Jah, and A'Keria are friendship goals Jan...read the room please Please don't let this game-within-a-game become another Art Simone situation About our guests:Luis Mancheno, DJ name Luis Fernando, is a queer DJ in Brooklyn. He was born and raised in Ecuador but has lived in the US for the past 13 years. He DJs and produces queer, inclusive parties in Brooklyn and Manhattan. He is 34 and he is a lawyer during the day. Creativity and art have always been passions of Genesis Knight. Shortly after high school, she started making hand-crafted jewelry pendants made of clay. It was something she truly loved doing. Like most people, she ended up in the corporate world and really hated it. About two years ago, her creativity and art collided with female impersonation. As a drag queen, Genesis really gets to express herself and be the creative person that she is. This creativity re-ignited her passion for creating jewelry. Her goal is to make high-quality rhinestone jewelry that her clients love to wear. About our co-host:Griffin Leeds is an Indiana-to-Brooklyn transplant who writes, produces, hosts, and performs comedy around NYC when there isn't a pandemic.FOLLOW LUIS:Instagram: @luisfernandospinsFOLLOW GENESIS:Instagram: @gemzbygenesisTikTok: @gemzbygenesisWebsite: www.gemzbygenesis.com FOLLOW GRIFFIN:Instagram: @griffinleedsTwitter: @griffinleedsTikTok: @griffinleedsFOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

This week, the huntys are kiki-ing from the Garden State and welcoming two amazing new guests to the pod: fellow podcaster Kali Tripodis and costume designer extraordinaire Tony Iniguez. Kali is a comedy writer, performer, and host of the Chromaticast podcast and the Trashelor aftershow (check out her Insta and YouTube); and Tony has designed outfits for celebrities such as Ariana Grande and Megan Thee Stallion, as well as some of our favorite queens on Rupaul's Drag Race! We talk about how queens plan their Drag Race wardrobes, the highs and lows of Bachelor nation, and, of course, the latest episodes of España and All Stars!On the pod: Drag Race España episode 8, “Drag Race España Reunion Show” These España queens are having so much fun! The wonderful world of Spanish drag Hugáceo stole the runway every time We love Supremme's hosting style Why La Macarena needs a second chance Dovima's Gaga look was everything Seriously...could Carmen Farala be more stunning?? Rupaul's Drag Race All Stars season 6, episode 6, “Rumerican Horror Story: Coven Girls” Acting challenges are hard! Kylie continues to slay What is up with the All Stars directing? Are these challenges too Eurocentric? Was Manila Luzon set up? We want more Pink Table Talk! About our guests:Kali Tripodis is a comedy writer, performer, and Lady Gaga historian. She just moved to New York after being another empty soul in Los Angeles, and is actively on the hunt for friends in the city. If you had to describe Kali in 5 words, it'd be "Sharon Needles, before the scandal."Tony Iniguez discovered his calling for fashion at a young age, producing his first fashion show while still in High School. He studied Fashion Design at Los Angeles Trade Technical College, creating award-winning pieces and building his repertoire of unique garments. In 2009, he created his own line, MANAZ, a collection of highly acclaimed fashion that has garnered awardsand recognition from critics. Tony began creating costumes for the highly acclaimed TV Show Rupaul's Drag Race. He was then sought out by pop singer Ariana Grande's stylist to create a look for her God is a Woman video. Tony has also dressed Megan Thee Stallion, Carrie Underwood, and Shania Twain. Tony's fashions have appeared on Bravo's Botched, Germany's Next Top Model, and The Boulet Brothers' Dragula. Recently, Tony created the dancer costumes for Christina Aguilera's Las Vegas Residency and Rupaul's Drag Race LIVE. Tony was named 2015 Designer of the Year at the 6th Annual Raw Awards. In 2017 he was named Designer of the Year at the Werrrk.com Drag Awards at the Los Angeles Rupaul's Drag Con.FOLLOW KALI:Instagram: @kalisucks and @trashelorTwitter: @kalisuckzYouTube: Kali TripodisAlso, check out Chromaticast wherever you listen to your podcasts!FOLLOW TONY:Instagram: @tonyiniguezdesignsFOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

Happy birthday, Whispering Huntys! Mijon and Nick are flying solo this week and celebrating the pod's one-year anniversary. That's a whole year we've been spilling tea, kiki-ing, and chatting it up with some of the most amazing guests we could have asked for. Now Mercury's not in "Gatorade" quite yet (...is that right?) but it sure feels like it with all the craziness that's been going on! This week we discuss what it means to be a whispering hunty, the flawlessness of the España finalists, and that absolutely bizarre episode of All Stars!Also, remember to use code HUNTYS50 for 50% off new arrival merchandise at www.5equals10.com On the pod: Drag Race España episode 7, “Final Four” Why can't anyone walk in heels? We love that the queens had to work with different body types We were so happy to see Envy Peru! Is Carmen Farala a shoe-in? Why we're looking forward to the crowning Was this the best ever makeover challenge? Killer Queen's words of wisdom What was the point of that triple lip sync? We love Pupi but...what was that makeover? Rupaul's Drag Race All Stars season 6, episode 5, “Pink Table Talk” How dare they get rid of Scarlet?! Why was Ginger Minj handed this challenge win? Should Pandora have been in the bottom? Are the Drag Race producers after Jan? Kylie Sonique Love needs to go all the way! We love deep talks from drag queens We have no idea who's going to win Seriously...what is up with this game within a game? Scarlet Envy better be back on Drag Race!       FOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram: majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

With the Huntys back in New York and Metropolitan finally open until 4 a.m., we are SO ready to dive back into Brooklyn nightlife; and who better to join us than nightlife expert Cameron Cole, a Brooklyn-based photographer, DJ, and writer who's been working the scene for around 15 years. This week we discuss our favorite nightlife memories, being the positive person you want in your life, and, of course, all the craziness happening on the latest episodes of All Stars and España. On the pod: Rupaul's Drag Race All Stars season 6, episode 4, “Halftime Headliners” Is Jan delusional? Did she deserve to be on the bottom? Was Trinity K. Bonet snubbed?? Don't sleep on Pandora Boxx! Why we think this was one of the best challenges of the season Scarlet Envy is so different this season...and we're living for it! Goodbye, Yara Sofia!! But is she really gone? No one can do Britney, and the lip-sync was just ‘ehh' Drag Race España episode 6, “Drags of Comedy” Did Dovima's wig ruin her roast? We love how passionate these queens are! Carmen Farala is the whole package The importance of comedy in drag Dovima's speech had us in tears! Don't sleep on Killer Queen We have our final four! About our guest:Cameron Cole is a Brooklyn Nightlife Award-winning photographer, a DJ, and a writer. He has been working in nightlife for about 15 years, in various capacities, including as an opening manager of the now-closed bar The Vault.FOLLOW CAMERON:Facebook: Cameron Cole     Instagram: camandthecityYoutube: Cameron Cole FOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram: majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

¡Hola, Caris! This week we're kiki-ing from the Windy City and welcoming back Queer In Love podcast's Diego Amado to help us unpack all this Drag Race. Queer in Love is a podcast that explores queer relationships from a queer lens, hosted by Diego Amado. Each episode he talks to queers to learn about how queer life and queer love thrive, but also how queer love and queer life are impacted by popular culture, spirituality, race, family, the state, all those forces that shape our experiences as queer people across the spectrum of gender and sexuality. We talk about throwing away your dating rule book, the Chicago nightlife scene, and, of course, the latest episodes of España and All Stars! Also, remember to use code HUNTYS50 for 50% off new arrival merchandise at www.5equals10.com  On the pod: Rupaul's Drag Race All Stars season 6, episode 3, “Side Hustles” Can we talk about Laganja Estranja's entrance? Untucked is where all the real gold is! Why the show is feeling a little stale Yara Sofia is so fun to watch  Trinity's awkward first challenge win Is A'Keria's perfectionism holding her back? Drag Race España episode 5, “The Art of Drag” What's getting lost in translation? Inti's exchange with Ana Locking España could really use some more diversity The drag scene in Spain Was Pupi's win deserved? Carmen Farala continues to surprise us! What's with Dovima's attitude? About our guest: Diego has been a dancer, high school teacher, museum curator's assistant, performance artist (briefly), and now behavioral scientist, bouncing around from coast to coast to the midwest, back, and back again. He's a doctor, but not THAT kind of doctor. He's a researcher and a gentleman who shares two of Jujubee's three passions (please note: he has been a vegetarian for 15 years, so you know exactly what those passions are *ding*. FOLLOW QUEEER IN LOVE PODCAST Listen on Spotify, Apple, and anywhere podcasts are streamedInstagram: queerinlovepod Twitter: queerinlovepoodFOLLOW QUEER IN LOVE:Instagram: @itsmejoelcFacebook: Joel CorreaTikTok: @itsmejoelcTwitter: @itsmejoelcYoutube: Joel CorreaFOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysWhispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

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Happy NYC Pride! Post-COVID anxiety is real, but we are living our best lives and getting back into the swing of things! With the premier of All Stars season six and a new episode of España, keeping up with all this Drag Race is like a full-time job! Luckily, we've got some incredible guests to help us out. This week, we're joined by Joel Correa, a fabulous makeup artist, and Doug Morris, director of PR and marketing at 5equals10, an amazing queer-owned business selling underwear and athleisure (for 50% off new arrival merchandise, use code HUNTYS50). Joel talks about his favorite queer spaces in Philedelphia: Woody's, Voyeur, and Tabu; and Mijon and Doug sing praises for the Gotham Volleyball League. On the pod: Rupaul's Drag Race All Stars season 6, episode 1, “All Star Variety Extravaganza” Wait...what are the rules of All Stars again? Jan's year-long blackout We are loving Ra'Jah O'Hara's new peaceful and joyful aura Drag Race doesn't have to be mean-spirited! Yara Sofia is so fun, we would watch her do anything Rupaul's Drag Race All Stars season 6, episode 2, “The Blue Ball” Scarlet Envy is killing it on every runway Can we talk about how perfect Sonique Kylie Love's denim look was? Yara's plummet to the bottom Serena ChaCha needs to humble herself! Jiggly Caliente has touched hearts and minds with her story Drag Race España episode 4, “Snatch Game” The queens look like they are having so much fun! Dovima is finally opening up Pupi Poisson is hilarious and absolutely slayed the reading challenge Supremme is so kind and loving to the queens Are Hugáceo's days numbered? Why we're team Carmen Farala Killer Queen does it all! Pupi Poisson is a star!! About our guests:Joel Correa is a Queer Creative hailing from Philadelphia, PA. He fuses his passion and love for music, fashion, comedy, and makeup to deliver uplifting and empowering messages to his audience. He has worked with the likes of Milk Makeup, Colourpop, and Morphe just to name a few! Doug Morris is the director of PR and marketing at 5=TEN. Their story is quite simple: Five individuals started this company with the sole purpose of creating better underwear for all men and they now expanded to women's athleisure. They also want to make a difference in the world, so every purchase earns at least a 10% donation for the charity of your choice, at no extra cost to you. Combining premium products with philanthropy is in our DNA and how 5=TEN was created.Try out 5=TEN today with our exclusive Hunty discount: HUNTYS50Receive 50% off New Arrival Merchandise only.Valid through July 31, 2021FOLLOW JOEL:Instagram: @itsmejoelcFacebook: Joel CorreaTikTok: @itsmejoelcTwitter: @itsmejoelcYoutube: Joel CorreaFOLLOW 5=TEN:Website: 5equals10.com Instagram: @5equals10Facebook: 5=10Youtube: Five Equals TenFOLLOW NICKInstagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJONInstagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYSInstagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

New York nightlife is back in full swing and we are living for it -- Mijon even took a note from Art Simone and finally danced in the club to Chromatica!! With the first season of Drag Race Down Under coming to a close, it was only right to discuss the finale with a couple of fabulous Aussie queens; and the lovely Bree Vin-Ammyl and Krystal Kleer have us covered. We deep-dive into the final episode, the drama on Drag Race España, and even talk about drag at a funeral!On the pod:Drag Race Down Under episode 8, “Down Under Grand Finale” Kita Mean takes home the first Down Under crown and we couldn't be happier! Scarlet Adams apologized for blackface but the problem goes deeper Seriously, what was Ru Paul wearing?  Could Art Simone's dress have touched the floor?  Did Trixie and Katya make Karen From Finance famous before she was ready?  The queens' final interviews: who actually made Ru laugh Drag Race España episode 3, “Mocatriz” Unpacking ‘Mocatriz' Supremme is slaying her looks!! Inti's dramatic exit About our guests:Krystal Kleer is both your wildest dream and your worst night terror, perfectly balanced on a 6.5-inch single sole pump. Known as the Lip-Sync Assassin, this Queen will never cease to surprise, dazzle, and amaze you whether she's a magical green garden troll or an albino fairy with kaleidoscope eyes. Krystal performed for icons like Kylie Minogue, Dawn French, Baz Luhrmann, and Cher. Worked for clients like Marc Jacobs, Bundaberg Rum, Biscuit Anderson, Airbnb and Fox Sports. Other personal highlights include performing at the Sydney Opera House, being photographed atop the Sydney Harbor bridge for Sydney LGBT Mardi Gras, and being crowned Miss Dragnation 2018. Personable, witty, and dangerously funny, there is no way to explain the ethereal beauty that is Krystal Kleer.   Bree Vin-Ammyl is an Aussie queen based just outside of Sydney NSW. She has been doing drag professionally for 10 years and worked in all of Sydney's iconic bars including Stonewall Hotel, Midnight Shift, and the Imperial Hotel (of Priscilla fame), and worked alongside some of Down Under's most iconic queens! Including Carlotta, Maxi Shield, Tora Hymen. Not to mention playing hostess to a number of the Ru girls while they toured Down Under. Lately, she hosts regular trivia “The Big Fact Hunt” and bingo nights in the Wollongong and greater Sydney region. When she's not entertaining, she can be found styling wigs for local theatre and queens from all over or behind the sewing machine whipping up a frock for her next gig!FOLLOW KRYSTALInstagram: @krystalkleerofficialFacebook: Krystal KleerTikTok: @krystalkleerofficialFOLLOW BREEInstagram: @thatssobreevinFacebook: Bree TaylorTikTok: @thatssobreevinFOLLOW NICK Instagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJON Instagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhisperingWhispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

We are fresh from BK Pride and Mijon has the full tea on the joy that happened at the first Whispering Hunty power brunch and at Good Judy this weekend. The BK Queers had a blast and everyone was happy to hear about Whispering Huntys. Down Under is ending so strangely. And, now that Drag Race España has started it is high time that we had a guest that actually speaks Spanish, so we are excited to have Pelayo Alvarez from the Forbidden Apple Podcast and we discuss the need for radical acceptance and how LGBTQ+ people process their spirituality. Also, why it is ok to still be spiritual after you come out. Pelayo talks about his favorite queer spaces: Washington Square Park and Tompkins Square Park.   On the Pod:  Drag Race Down Under episode 7, "Talent Show Extravaganza" How on earth did Down Under lose so much luster?  Ru doesn't like magic or any talent that any othering drag has.  Could the Down Under Queens bicker about the show order anymore?  Does Courtney Act still need Drag Race?  What's up with non-white representation on this show? When will Karen from finance actually happen? Is Scarlet the actual first pole dancer? Why are Kita Mean and Elektra Shock in the bottom? Drag Race España episode 2, "Divas"  Sagittaria is less than smart and we love it.  La Veneno!  Paca La Piraña Supremme De Luxxe is the moment.  Apparently, Pupi is already low key famous in Spain How to actually pronounce Farala.  Inti address dysmorphia and why you don't need a doctor's note to say you are trans Why Drag Vulcano probably had to go. Just felt a bit subdued  About our guest: Hola a todxs. Pelayo Alvarez is originally from Spain and raised catholic. During the past 5 years, he has been training the least developing countries in the field of international relations and global affairs at the United Nations. He is passionate to discover how different folks around the world live their spirituality and appreciate what makes each story powerful. He likes to ask for practical advice and takeaways from different life perspectives in our episodes so you can use them for your own personal development and growth. He also has a Youtube Channel where he curates life-changing ideas with a fun twist.As a host for the Forbidden Apple Podcast he wants to prove that although people celebrate religion and spirituality in so many ways, at the same time, they share so much in common. FOLLOW PELAYO Instagram: pelayoafYoutube: pelayoaf  Forbidden Apple Podcast Website FOLLOW NICK Instagram: neprobst and grow_withnickTwitter: neprobst  FOLLOW MIJON Instagram:majorzu FOLLOW THE HUNTYS Instagram: whisperinghuntysFacebook: whisperinghuntysTiktok: whisperinghuntysTwitter: huntywhispering Whispering Huntys Website  Whispering Huntys is an Apocalypse Podcast Network Podcast. Sign up to our Listserv: http://eepurl.com/hfnySr

Derek Humpry is an author and principal founder of the Hemlock Society (now Compassion & Choices). Derek shares his poignant story about helping his wife, who was terminally ill, end her life and how he founded the Hemlock Society.     Derek's website: FinalExit.org Transcript Dr. Bob: Welcome to A Life and Death Conversation with Dr. Bob Uslander. I'm very excited to introduce you to today's guest, who is a gentleman who I recently had the pleasure of meeting and listening to during a presentation at a conference. And I just knew when I met and heard him speak that he is somebody who you needed to hear from. I could go on for quite a long time listing his achievements and his accolades in this introduction, but I don't want to take too much of our valuable time away from the conversation, so I will just give a little glimpse of the instruction to Mr. Derek Humphry, who is the founder of the Hemlock Society of the USA, past president of the World Federation of Right to Die Societies, and Derek has been an incredibly strong proponent of people having the ability to determine how and when they their lives will end when they are struggling. He's been very active through his entire life in this regard and is in large part responsible for the movement through in this country that is certainly effective here on the West Coast, in California, in Oregon, in Washington that has allowed people to have a peaceful end of life. And I owe him gratitude because he has allowed me to delve into a part of my career that has really been incredibly gratifying, and he's brought great relief to many, many people around the world. So, Derek, I just want to introduce you and thank you from the bottom of my heart for all that you've done. So welcome. Derek Humphry: Well, hello. Thank you very much for inviting me. It's been a worthwhile journey. I founded the Hemlock Society in 1980 when I lived in Santa Monica and developed it from there. And it was, I didn't do it in any obviously pioneering way thought, but it proved to be the start of the right-to-choose-to-die movement in America as we grew and grew and fought off our critics and published little books and held conferences, the right-to-choose-to-die movement swelled and improved across America ever since 1980. Dr. Bob: So let me ask, how did this all start? I know, and I heard the story, but I'd like people to hear where this movement originated and how it started for you. Derek Humphry: Yes. I was living in London. I was a reporter on the London Sunday Times. And I had a good marriage, a wife, and three sons, and we were getting along fine. And it's great fun bringing up three sons. But suddenly in 1973 my wife, Jean, said that she had a lump in her breast. We rushed her to the hospital, and various testing and so forth. And they had to perform a radical mastectomy, much to her shock and all of our shock. She recovered from that as best she could, but we have further testing of her lymph nodes and blood count and all the rest of it. And it showed that she had cancer deep in her system. It was too late. But we fought, and she fought, took all medical help available, kept her spirits up looking after the family and so forth. She kept it only in a close circle of friends or family did she say that she had cancer. But in about a year it turned to bone cancer, very painful, very difficult to be moving at all except with heavy pain medications. And then after nearly two years, it was really serious, and she nearly died. She was in the hospital in Oxford, England, getting the best treatment that was available back in 1975, and she recovered from one bout, and the doctor thought she wouldn't come out of that. But she did, and she had a fighting spirit. Then came my epiphany. She sat up in bed feeling pretty well in the hospital bed, and I was visiting her. And she said, "Derek, I want you to do something for me." I said, "What's that?" She said, "I've had enough of this pain and unconsciousness. It's getting near the end. I want to die at home. I don't want ..." She took hospitals pretty well, but she was in the cancer ward, and she'd seen too many people die with the families rushing in in the middle of the night to say their goodbyes and a lot of pain and tears. She said, "I want to die at home. I also want to end my life at the point when I feel the quality of my life is gone and that there's no more hope and no more chance of living. And I want you to help me." There wasn't a right-to-die movement in America or Britain to speak of. There were little token meetings, but it was not a subject of public discussion or knowledge. I think I would have had to go to a dictionary to look up the word euthanasia or so forth. I said, "What do you want me to do?" She said, "I want you to go ..." In a way, she prefigured the laws. She didn't know she was doing this, prefigured the laws that are coming into place in six states in America. And she said, "I want you to go to a doctor, explain what the situation is, and ask him for lethal drugs in which at the time of my choosing, I'm not ready yet, but it won't be far off, time of my choosing, I want to be able to take my life immediately in my bed at home with family nearby and so forth." I said instinctively, I know I didn't philosophize about it or ... "Okay. I'll help you." And- Dr. Bob: Do you recall what your initial reaction was to that? Of course, you wanted to be supportive, but did you have ... Do you remember how you felt about doing that at the time, conflicted? Derek Humphry: I remember saying to her, "If I was in your position, I would be asking you the same," so that I comforted her by saying, "We're on the same wavelength." I didn't want her to die at all, but having seen her pain and suffering for the last two years, well, understood why she would ask. She was a very strong, independent woman and knew her own mind. She'd seen her mother die about 10 years earlier of lung cancer, and she had to be with her father at her mother's bedside. I wasn't there. I was looking after the children somewhere else. The mother died an awful death apparently. She didn't realize she was dying, and the pain control was terrible. If I'd known about it at the time, I would have lodged a complaint against the doctor. But I wasn't on the scene. But this obviously triggered in Jean that when her time was closing, that she was going to do it differently than her poor mother had dealt with it. So I went to ... I puzzled over what I should do, how to get the drugs, and I thought, "I don't want to involve her own GP or lead cancer specialist in Oxford." I didn't feel it was right to involve them. They were good people, good men, and women, very helpful, but I've been a journalist in London. I knew a certain doctor who we'd worked on stories about medicine before, and I thought, "That's the fellow." So I went to see him, took him to dinner, and I said to him, told him what the situation was, and he questioned me closely about Jean's illness, the state it was, what we'd been through, roughly what sort of medications and so forth, and where she was. He turned to me and said, "She has no quality of life left. I will help." And he gave me the lethal drugs with which to; she could end her life. We shook hands on the bargain that I would never reveal his name, that that would be secret, and it's been secret to this day, although people have asked me who he was. I took the drugs home. I said to Jean, "I have the drugs. They're locked away in the medicine cabinet out of the way." And we got on with life, and she got on with life as best she could. She took another chemotherapy, which gave some momentary relief. And we had a happy Christmas in the end of 1974; I think that was. And then but by February, March, she was very, very ill and taking a great deal of what in England they call hospice mix. No, in America they call it hospice mix. In England, it's called Brompton cocktail. It's a mixture of drugs that suit one's particular illness. It's a sort of trial and error until the doctors can work out what this particular patient handles best. So we had that. And we continued, and things got worse. Then her ribs broke in a sort of accident, and that seemed to be her benchmark. She couldn't get to the bathroom anymore. She could hardly move. She couldn't get up in bed without a massive amount of painkillers. She couldn't sit up in bed. And I knew the end was coming, and I knew this question was going to come, so I was thinking about it but saying nothing. Then one day I got her to sit, managed to get her to sit up after taking the pain medications, and she calmly turned to me, and she said, "Is this the day?" That's a pretty rough question to answer when you're the ... We'd been married for 22 years and three children and had a happy life together. And I sort of gulped and said, "Well, if the pain is getting worse, you'll probably have ..." I was sort of stalling for the moment. I didn't want to rush an answer. "You'll probably have to go back into the hospital at the end of the week for more pain relief." And she said, "I'll die at one o'clock today." And so that was ... She was a very outspoken north country English woman and- Dr. Bob: Knew her mind. Derek Humphry: ... we talked all morning, and we shared our memories. The marriage had been very solid, but we'd had two quarrels, one over which house to buy and one over my moving to London from Manchester. We'd settled them, but she brought them up, and she said, "Well, I was right about the house, and you were right about moving to London." So we settled the two quarrels that we had. And she told me to go tell her father what had happened so that it wasn't like her mother's death, that hers was much more straightforward. At one o'clock, if she hadn't said, "Get it," I would have just continued talking. I left it, the initial movement, I left up to her. At one o'clock she said, "Go and get it." So I went and got the doctor's drugs, mixed them in a cup of coffee, put a lot of sugar in, and brought it back to her. I told the boys were lying around in the house. The previous evening Jean had sent me on a fool's errand to get something from the supermarket, and during that, my absence, she called in the boys and told them that she was going to die tomorrow. I was not part of that. She wanted me out of it for that communication with her sons. Dr. Bob : How old were the boys at that point, Derek? Do you recall? Derek Humphry: Sort of 17, 18, 19. I can't remember exactly. Dr. Bob: So young men. They were- Derek Humphry: But late teens. Yes, young men. And they'd seen her suffering. They'd helped me nurse her, helped. When I was absent, they would provide her drugs and things like that. They knew the situation, and they knew their mother was a determined woman. If she said something was going to happen and she was going to do, then she was going to do it. So I took the drugs in to her. As I passed through the living room, I said to the boys, "She's preparing to die," so that they were up to mark on it. I put the drugs down beside her, and she said, "Is that it?" I said, "Yes. If you drink that cup of coffee, you will die." She accepted that. I got on the bed and gave her a last hug and a kiss. We said our goodbyes. I got back on my chair so that she could lift the coffee straight up without ... And she picked up the mug of coffee and gulped it down, drink it down. And I sat there watching in awe. And before she passed out, she said, "Goodbye, my love." And that was it. She lingered for a while. Then she vomited a little, which frightened me. I thought, "Oh, dear." I didn't know at the time that right to die was not a subject of ... I never investigated closely or not ... She should've taken some antiemetics. Dr. Bob: As we do now. Derek Humphry: ... to prepare the stomach for that extremely toxic drug that was going to kill her. Anyway, she didn't vomit all that much. And she just quietly died. Dr. Bob: Were the boys with you at the time? Were they in the room or were they? Derek Humphry: No. They were in the next room. But when I went out of the room, I know they went into the room when she was dead and apparently said goodbye to their mother, and after my presence. And I called the local GP who looked after her for about two years and told him that Jean was dead. And he came out. He said, "I'll be around in an hour or so and sign the death certificate." When he came in and looked at her, and I kept out of the room deliberately. I didn't want to muddy the waters in any way or whatnot. And I was out in the garden, but he wrote down death from carcinomatosis, massive cancer. If he'd wanted to speak to me, I was there in the garden, and he could've called and said, "I want to talk to you, Derek," but he didn't. And he thought it was a natural death from her powerful cancer. Dr. Bob: Which it would've been before too long had she not taken this step. Derek Humphry: Yes. Dr. Bob: But it would've come after quite a bit, potentially quite a bit more struggle and suffering, right? Derek Humphry: Yes. Well, certainly she would've been dead within a month. That was definitely on the cards. Her doctors had told me that they would look ... They'd say, "She can come in to Oxford Hospital, and we'll look after her, or she can die at home." And I said, "She wants to die at home." And they said, "Fine. We'll provide as much comfort as we can." So that was how it ended. Dr. Bob: And that was 40 ... How old was she? Derek Humphry: She as 42. Dr. Bob: And that was 43 years ago, 1974. Derek Humphry: Yes. Dr. Bob: So 43 years ago. It sounds like you can ... I know that you've told this story not just a few times over the years, but it sounds like you can almost, it's almost like it was yesterday. You seem so clear that you can recollect the details so clearly. Derek Humphry: Yes. And she was so clear. She wasn't one who would aggravate over things. She wouldn't ... She'd talk things over, "What is this? What is that?" We'd had a pact that when she first asked me to help her that it would be a joint decision. She said, "I could be made woozy by all these drugs." And she said to me, "Back at the first opening of this, she said, "If I'm asking to die at the wrong time because there's been a cure for cancer or if there's more to do, don't help me. It's a joint decision." And so I went along with that. You have to stand by your partners at the worst of times. Dr. Bob: Well, she certainly sounded like she was very clear and wasn't hesitating at the time. And her strength, and her fortitude, and her clarity have had such a significant impact on many lives from that. Had she not made that decision, had she not asked you to support her in this way, it's hard to know what would have transpired and how the right-to-die movement might or might not have developed over time. So can you share how things developed from that point and how her gentle and peaceful death ended up leading to the next steps for you? Derek Humphry: Well, I had written. I was, what, 45 at the time, and I had published three non-fiction books, had modest effect with them. So I was a published author. So I decided to write a little book about this. I was rather ... I studied the subject after Jean died--no, before and after. And I went into the library of the Times of London, and I read up all the assisted suicide cases for the last 50 years. And what struck me was that here were spouses, male and female, dragged into court. Assisted suicide was and is a crime in Britain. And I was shocked by what I read in modern history about this. And what really struck me was that these people that I could see were never sent to prison although they were vulnerable to 12 years in prison, the maximum sentence. But the judge would always say, "You've done wrong, but it was done in a spirit of compassion." Then he would suspend the sentence or put them on probation and things like that. I thought, "Well, this is a wrong law." If it's a crime, well then it should be punished as a crime. But this is not a crime, and it should be modified." So that got my dander up. And so I wrote a little book called Jean's Way in which I told the truth, the harsh truth of what had happened, the good things, the good times, and the bad times, and how Jean had handled it and so forth, and about the doctor, whose name I did not release. And when I took the book 'round to several publishers in London, nobody would publish it. Even though I was already a published author and staff writer at the London Sunday Times, they said, "Oh, no. It's too harrowing. Oh, no, it'll make people cry." And my own editor, Harry Evans, the great editor, he looked at it, considered it, and he said, "No, I don't want my readers crying on Sunday morning." And I said, "What's wrong with a good cry for genuine reason? This is part of human life." But he wouldn't. He wouldn't publish it. Anyway, I found a little publisher who was willing to take the chance, and they published it. And the entire book was sold out in a week. In five days it was gone. The public snapped it up, and I sold the paperback rights, and the Norwegian rights, and the Japanese rights, and Spanish rights. So the publishers and my editor were wrong. People do want to read genuine cases about this, sincere cases. And a huge amount of the public is interested in peaceful and careful dying. So that was that. Then I moved to America to work for the Los Angeles Times. I wanted to change, and the book became very controversial, and I was invited onto lots of television shows, the Donahue Show. All of the big afternoon television shows, all of them invited me on to talk. And it began to stir interest, and I began to get huge mail from people, and they could reach me at the Los Angeles Times. They would just write, "Derek Humphry, Los Angeles Times, Los Angeles," and that would get me. And people said to me, what are you going to do about this? And I said, "Well, I'm thinking," and this question kept coming up. And so I began to feel, "Well, I'll set up an organization to help people as best we can and long term to change the law so that this could be done thoughtfully, legally by willing doctors according to law and guidelines. And so I set up the Hemlock Society in August of 1980, announced it at the L.A> press conference. I remember one reporter said to me, "Are you going to be in the yellow pages?" I said, "Of course. This is not going to be a covert organization. This is going to be straightforward. But we're not going to break any laws if we can help it. We're not that way. We're in the business of changing laws." But meantime I wrote a little book called Let Me Die Before I wake, which a guide to how to do it yourself. This first book was on the right today, well, second if you call Jean's Way as one. It was true cases of people dying, taking their lives, and what drugs they used, and how they handled it. I went around America interviewing people who were willing to talk to me about the death of a spouse or a child. And I gathered these stories together, published it in a little book, which sold continuously for the next 10 years to mostly members. It wasn't a bookstore book; it was people heard of the Hemlock Society, and I did a number of radio and television programs. Gradually the membership at Hemlock Society grew from nothing to 47, and I had a- Dr. Bob: 47? Derek Humphry: Yeah. I had a- Dr. Bob: It's interesting. I meet people in my practice, and many of these older residents of these community are card-carrying long-term members, and they're so proud of it. These are people who are very successful, intelligent, and they're the folks who have always been able to kind of be self-determining and not just accept what is being handed to them but want to really determine the course of their lives. I don't see as many younger people, and you can share your thoughts on this and what's happened since, but not as many younger people seem to be connecting and kind of opening themselves up to this sort of connection because the people who are the older people who are these long-term members of the Hemlock Society, they had to find out it and join when they were about my age in their 40s and 50s. I don't hear a lot of 50- and 40-year olds these days engaging in this conversation, which is interesting. It's mostly the older folks who are looking more- Derek Humphry: I don't agree with you there. Dr. Bob: That hasn't been your experience? Okay. Derek Humphry: My experience is different. I have two websites. I have a blog, and I have a Listserv, and I find that the ratings of people, it varies a great deal. I get an uncomfortable amount of students approaching me, wanting to interview me and to know background, and so forth because they're writing projects on it all over America. And I get some end of term or so forth, I get swamped with these. So I think there is fairly across the ages group of support, true most support from people over 50, and that's very often because they've seen their parents or grandparents die in circumstances that they would not want for themselves. Dr. Bob: That makes complete sense. Derek Humphry: Whereas young people have probably not. Thank goodness they've not seen loved ones die. But we older people, of course, have, so and- Dr. Bob: I appreciate that perspective. I appreciate ... Obviously, you've been in this world for longer and are very tapped in to it. So I appreciate knowing that from in your experience, that there are people across the age ranges who are paying attention and supporting. So what happened with the Hemlock Society? I know that there were changes that occurred. Derek Humphry: Yes. Well, because the movement grew bigger, and other organizations formed. Ten years after I formed the Hemlock, Dr. Kevorkian came on the scene with his very controversial tactics and actions. And of course, the media were fascinating with Kevorkian. I mean, they'd never heard of a doctor with a suicide machine that killed patients on request. So he got an enormous amount of ... far more publicity than I got. I washed with interest. In terms of informing, because a lot of people only watch television, and they don't tend to read books and papers, and that's their choice. So suddenly Kevorkian offers so many television appearances. We're telling people about the right to choose to die, and he helped directly with drugs 130 people to die and could have going on doing that. He was twice charged with assisted suicide, and the juries wouldn't convict him. He was acquitted. But then he wanted to make it a bigger impact. He believed that all this publicity would make the medical profession change its mind about assisted dying. He was wrong, but he persisted, very persistent, tough man. And he performed active voluntary euthanasia, a man ,very sick man came to him and asked to be helped to die. The family was behind him, and he was a very, very ill man And when Kevorkian ended his life, this man's life by injection, and he filmed it, and he got 60 Minutes to put it on film, and on the 60 Minutes program, Kevorkian looked down at the camera and pointed his finger, and then said to the district attorney of his area up at Michigan, "Either you prosecute me, or I've won." Very [defact 00:36:24], strong ... He threw down the gauntlet to the legal people, who were not going to prosecute him again. They've got fed up with him. But this time they had to take him to court because he was such a defiant act. And they were willing to look past assisted suicide, but death by injection, they were not. That was ... They charged him with manslaughter and second-degree murder. And he was convicted. He'd overstepped the mark because of assisted suicide before the courts, you can plead ... It was something you had to do, something that was by choice and by agreement. Although it's strictly it's against the law, juries accepted that when they heard the cry is from the family and what the dead patient had said and so forth. Now, with second-degree murder, you cannot bring evidence of compassion and sympathy. That's not allowed in Britain and America under a murder charge. You either did it, or you didn't do it. You can't say, "He asked me to kill me." You can't say, "I did it for a good reason." That argument, the judge will immediately stamp on any argument, and he has to. That's the law that's in the practice. Bob Uslander: I imagine it may have an impact on the sentencing and on how the punishment is meted out? But it sounds like not on the actual determination of guilt or innocence. Derek Humphry: Yes. Dr. Bob: Is that correct? Derek Humphry: Yes, and he repeated his thing, "This action of mine, helping this man to die was merciful, and the law should be changed," and all the rest of it. He said to the jury, "Do I look like a murderer?" Of course, he didn't. Dr. Bob: Of course not. Derek Humphry: But the judge was pretty strong on him. He'd appeared before her before, and he signed a bond that he would not help any people to die, and of course, he obviously broke that bond. And so the jury found him guilty, and the judge said that "This is the end of your actions on this." And he was sent to 10 years to life; I think it was. It was a certain period to life, and he went to prison. He appealed, but he had no grounds for appeal. He kept on appealing, but they didn't have good grounds for appeal. That's the way the homicide laws are: You either did it, or you didn't do it. He had a film with himself doing it. So his work ... He did eight years in prison, served it very bravely, and nobly, and was let out after eight years instead of life on a promise that he wouldn't do it anymore. And he stuck to that promise. A few years later he died of kidney disease. He certainly had his impact. But where I, and I'm not medical profession, I'm not a doctor, of course, only a journalist, and people would write to him and say, "Will you help me?" He would write them back or call them back, and he would say after he'd saw the circumstances, "Yes. Fly up here." So people that he accepted would fly to Detroit, check into a motel. And he would help them to die next day. Now, that upset the medical profession. They said, "Look, that's not the way you practice medicine." Even if the end result was a Kevorkian-type result, you would evaluate a patient. You get to know a patient. You make sure it's a genuine, compassionate request. So he didn't move the medical profession at all. I'm afraid, and- Dr. Bob: Right. And that's really what's developed of course in the states that do have loss that allow physician-aided dying. Those issues are addressed. And as somebody who's practicing in that realm, I can assure you and everyone listening that the relationships are very important, and this is not a quick transaction, right? Derek Humphry: Yes, not a casual thing at all. There has to be understanding and friendship and signed documents saying that that's proving that this was the patient' own decision, the witnessed documents and whatever. It must be done carefully. And Kevorkian, one, in the start of his antics, he came to me, and he said that "Will the Hemlock Society send me patients?" And I said, "No. I don't believe in ..." Oh, he said he was going to start a suicide clinic. And I replied to him straight off in my office, he came to my office, asked for help, and I said, "No, I don't believe in people being helped assisted dying in clinics. This is something that must be done in home with knowledgeable doctors and agreeing families. This is not acceptable at all." He got very angry and stamped out of the office because I wouldn't help him. And I said, "Alright." Even before he got out, I said, "Alright. We have to change the law, not break it." Dr. Bob: Right, not circumvent it. Derek Humphry: Anyway, so he never spoke to me again. Dr. Bob: First of all, thank you for that history lesson. It's fascinating, and I now a lot of people will benefit from having a greater understanding of how the right-to-die movement really began and where Dr. Kevorkian fits into it. Share with me a bit, if you would, about what you're doing now. What is life like for Derek Humphry these days? Derek Humphry: Well, I'm 87 years old, in pretty good heath instead of some of the things like nerve-ending damage, or losing my hearing, and so forth that old people suffer from, but I don't have any major illnesses or terminal illnesses. I resigned from the Hemlock Society seven years ago. It was getting too big. I'm a writer, not a CEO, and so I handed it over. A few years later it merged into Compassion and Choices, into another ... It was merged, and the Hemlock Society doesn't exist anymore, except Hemlock Society of San Diego: They've kept their name and a very strong chapter down there. Dr. Bob: Yes, good friend sort of mine, and I will be introducing the listeners to some of the folks from the Hemlock Society of San Diego in future podcasts. Derek Humphry: Yes. I run a little organization that supplies quality literature about the right to choose to die, about assisted dying. And my book Final Exit, which is the guidebook as to how you can practice your own self-deliverance, what you must beware of, the dos and don'ts, the law. It's all described in journalistic terms. I'm a very straightforward writer. The book Final Exit has been selling since 1991, selling today. I sell about four or five a day. It's in the bookstores. It's on Amazon, and so forth. And it's sold all over the world. Most languages have taken, and even China and Japan have taken it. And then I've just published a memoir of my life, Good Life, Good Death, which is the story of my life before 50. I was 50 when I started the Hemlock Society, but it describes my life there, and then the second half about Jean's death and how the right-to-die movement numeric grew and grew. I moved to live in Oregon from Los Angeles, and I discovered that Oregon had a system of you could change the law by citizens initiative, that citizens could vote in their own law. It's quite complicated to do it. So in 1993, we set about, I gathered people around me and Hemlock Society of Oregon. I met other good people, doctors, and the lawyers, and nurses, and laypeople, and we got a citizens initiative going in Oregon in 1994, and we learned from other failures that we'd had previously in California and Washington. And to everybody's surprise, we won. We won by 2%, and the right-to-life movement sprung into action, got an injunction against us, stopped it. Then we fought that injunction off. Then they brought another one in, and they delayed the law for three years, and they called another vote, a state-wide vote in Oregon. They called another vote. And it was the biggest mistake they ever meant. We won by 4% the next time. We doubled our gain. So the vote, it was twice voted on in Oregon. And the law went into effect in 1998, and has worked- Dr. Bob: Yes, it has, and then- Derek Humphry: ... very satisfactorily ever since, and I think- Dr. Bob: Yeah, and then laws, the law in Washington became essentially modeled after that, and California and now Colorado, and I understand that there are initiatives and bills in many other states. So we are I think the progress continues. Derek Humphry: Yes. It's slow progress, and people would like to see more, but in a democracy and a free country like America, you've got to go step by step. Dr. Bob: Yes, you've got to go through [crosstalk 00:49:14]. Derek Humphry: Interesting. In Britain, it's still a crime to assist a suicide, but the Chief Prosecutions Department in London has issued guidelines. This is two years ago. They issued guidelines as to when they would prosecute a person and when they would not, what their markers were, what their standard was. And I agreed with it. I thought, "That's ..." I could see that I was ... Oh, there was a ... After the cheese, we came out, he police came to me and said, "Did you do this?" And I said, "Yes, I did. Oh, yeah." I said, "If you take me to court, I'll throw myself on the mercy of the court." I did help her. But the public prosecutor decided not to prosecute me. He used a clause in the law that if he felt one way about it, he could decline prosecution. And in Britain, they have this new law. They still haven't changed the law in Britain, and though they've tried the Oregon law two or three times, it never gets through Parliament. But they do have these guidelines which you can read there on the Internet and everywhere, which says if you assist a loved one, it can't be strangers, if you assist a loved one under these circumstances, I can't spread them all out now, but intelligent circumstances, then we are not likely to prosecute. If you do it for monetary reasons, or selfishness, or any criminality, then you will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Dr. Bob: As it should be. Derek Humphry: So go ahead. Dr. Bob: No. I said, "As it should be," right? I know that sometimes there can be nuances, but we do need to be protecting ... We need those protections in place. Derek Humphry: Oh, yes, undoubtedly. We're moving towards doing it. And I think that the whole change in America society is swinging, going to swing in our favor. I mean, who would've thought 10 years ago that there would be gay rights as clear as they are now, that there would be same-sex marriages? Who would've thought that a few years ago? But it's gone through, and the Supreme Court approved it. So there is a change in attitudes. Dr. Bob Bob: There is. Derek Humphry: And younger people are more open to intelligent decisions instead of old-fashioned and religious decisions. Bob Uslander: Well, you were ahead of your time, my friend, and you were it sounds like an accidental pioneer. I personally and professionally am grateful. We will be kind of carrying the torch and continuing in the efforts that you and many of your peers have put forth. And there are many, many people who owe you gratitude for going out and being willing to put yourself out there because it wasn't the easy path. It wasn't the path of least resistance by any stretch. I know that. Dr. Bob: So, Derek- Derek Humphry: ... had some ups and downs. Dr. Bob: yeah. Well, no doubt. And there is more work to be done. Derek Humphry: Oh, yes. Dr. Bob: There is quite a bit, but we also want to, like you were indicating, we want to recognize and appreciate the strides that have been made. And we are, I feel like we're moving clearly in the right direction. Derek Humphry: Yeah. I hope so. Dr. Bob: If people want to connect with you, and certainly you discussed a few of your books, I know there's others, but Let Me Die Before I Wake was one; Final Exit; Good Life, Good Death, which I have a copy of, and I can't wait to crack it open and dive into it. What is the best way for someone to learn more about you, be able to access your blog or give access to your books? Derek Humphry: My main website, which is the name's easily remembered, and then that leads you on to my other websites and blogs. It's www.finalexit.org. I'm not a nonprofit organization. If you go to finalexit.org, you could then see how you could move on to our bookstore very clearly or join a blog or the Listserv. So that's the easiest way to get in contact with us, finalexit.org. And my latest book is my memoir of all these years before '50 and the turbulent years since 50, and I call it Good Life, Good Death, so not all about death. There's quite a lot of humor and irony in other parts of it. And it's available through me or Amazon or so forth, but prefer you bought it from me. And you can find it through finalexit.org and get it at the discounted rate. Dr. Bob: Wonderful. Well, Derek, I just want to thank you for taking time and sharing so openly, and, again, for everything you've done to move, I think to move humanity forward. Derek Humphry: In a small way, and it's been very rewarding. I've built up a huge friendship and wonderful friendships, and people to work with on these calls, and particularly down in San Diego there seems a real hotbed of thoughts and action about this subject. Bob Uslander: Yeah, well, I know you've got some very good friends and admirers down here, and I'm one of them. So I'll look forward to continuing this friendship, and I know that we'll be back in touch soon. So I'll be signing off. Thank you so much, and we all appreciate you. Derek Humphry: It's been good talking to you. Dr. Bob: Okay, Derek. You take care of yourself. Derek Humphry: Okay. Thanks very much.  

In today's podcast we're going to help Janelle start selling her digital products on her website subdays.com. Janelle has a product and a vision for her online business but has some questions to really kickstart her growth so she can stay at home with her son. She has great questions about everything from social media advertising to how to position herself as an expert. You'll definitely be able to get some value from these common questions we hear about launching your online business. You will learn The actions Janelle needs to take to start generating sales for her products. How to start growing your email list with Facebook ads. How to balance the paid vs free content on her site. The art of pre-selling your product. Why you should always be working on your brand and your content. If you need ISBN numbers or not on your products. Links and resources mentioned in today's show Janelle's website subdays.com Past episode about Social Media advertising What a LISTSERV is Enjoy the podcast; we hope it inspires you to explore what's possible for your family! Click here to leave us an iTunes review and subscribe to the show! We may read yours on the air! You can connect with S&J on social media too!   Thanks again for listening to the show! If you liked it, make sure you share it with your friends and family! Our goal is to help as many families as possible change their lives through online business. Help us by sharing the show! If you have comments or questions, please be sure to leave them below in the comment section of this post. See y'all next week! Can't listen right now? Read the transcript below! JOCELYN: Hey y'all. On today's podcast we are going to help Janelle take her online business to the next level. SHANE: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast, where life always comes before work. We are your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. Join us each week as we teach you how to flip you lifestyle upside down by selling stuff online. Are you ready for something different? Alright. Let's get started. JOCELYN: Hey guys welcome to this week's Flipped podcast. We are very excited this week to have our listener Janelle Afasiab. I hope I said that right Janelle. She has actually asked a question before. I am pretty sure we butchered that name before so we are really excited to have her today. We have a New York to Kentucky connection today so this is going to be an interesting call. We got the north and the south but we are super excited to her. SHANE: And no fighting we are not going to fight. There is no north and south fighting tonight, alright Janelle. JOCELYN: So we are very excited to have you today Janelle you have some great questions and I know that ty will really benefit out listeners out there. So let's start out and go ahead introduce yourself and tell us about your family and your online business so far. JANELLE: Okay, well my name is Janelle Afrasiab. And I have been married eight years and we have one son. He is about five weeks away from turning three and my husband is currently at home right no babysitting. We don't have much family here on New York. I am originally from North Dakota. I don't have much family out here so getting a babysitter is a little bit more difficult. I am a former high school Spanish teacher and what I have done is I have taken my activities that used in class, put them into a book and now I am trying to sell and market them. SHANE: Awesome. And do you work right now? JANELLE: Just a stay at home mom. SHANE: Okay. So tell us a little bit about like why you want to get in to online business. Why do you want to flip your life? What is your husband do for work? And then how do you think that online business would make your life better? JANELLE: My husband currently we have a Bollywood, video slash Western Union slash electronics store here in New York and the reason that I want to flip my life ...