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This week, in Skidmore, Missouri, a true scene of horror is discovered, when a woman is attacked so brutally, people say it looks as though she "exploded", in her own home. This bloody scene leads to a mad scramble to find one missing piece to this puzzle... the baby that the victim was 8 months into carrying. Detectives race to trace a digital trail to the killer, before it's too late! Is this town cursed? Along the way, we find out that some towns just seem to be cursed, that when someone has a truly awful childhood, they might end up having an awful life, and that rat terriers will always bark during a murder!! New episodes, every Wednesday & Friday nights!! Donate at patreon.com/crimeinsports or at paypal.com and use our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder, Crime In Sports & Your Stupid Opinions! Follow us on... instagram.com/smalltownmurder facebook.com/smalltownpod Also, check out James & Jimmie's other shows, Crime In Sports & Your Stupid Opinions on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts!!
From a Missouri resident confronting Republican Representative Mark Alford to the absurdity of televised cabinet meetings, Stephanie Miller dissects the state of democracy and the challenges faced by working Americans. Tune in for a humorous yet critical take on the latest news, including the implications of Trump's actions and the resilience of Democrats in the face of adversity. With guests Bob Cesca and Carlos Alazraqui!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
On this episode of Beyond Multifamily, Ash Patel interviews Logan Freeman (“Mr. Kansas City”), an investor–developer–broker who's bullish on select office and small-bay industrial. He explains how Class B/C office can work today—smaller suites, 1–3 year leases, rigorous OPEX/insurance diligence, and lender-ready liquidity—while outlining why flex/industrial has real tailwinds. Logan breaks down Kansas City's diversified growth story and how to win broker attention with a crisp buy box, fast feedback cadence, and authentic LinkedIn presence (plus smart AI to package data fast). He also shares lessons on time management, delegation, and a humbling historic rehab that reinforced the value of radical transparency in deals. Logan Freeman Current Role: Co-Founder & Chief Development Officer, FTW Investments; commercial real estate investor, developer, and broker. ftwinvestmentsllc.com Based in: Kansas City, Missouri. Say hi to them at: LinkedIn | FTW Investments Visit investwithsunrise.com to learn more about investment opportunities. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Rover keeps readers in the bathroom. JLR gets irritated by too many questions. Charlie should have bought Cracker Barrel stock. A few people were missing from the staff meeting. Restaurant in Missouri has to make a statement about Google AI giving false information about their menu specials. Parents are suing ChatGPT after the AI program helped him commit suicide. Rover turned his fireplace already. Charlie uses his GPS to drive to and from work. Matador is gored during his debut bull fight. Rachel in sales gave JLR a new pair of shoes. Are Krystle's feet bigger than Jeffrey's? The show gets a good look at Stansbury's nasty feet. The Orgy Dome. JLR lies about going to Cracker Barrel. The show teams up to try a reverse song game gone viral on TikTok. Duji and Snitzer attempt to win the reverse song game. Did rover cheat? The losing teams get punished.
Rover keeps readers in the bathroom. JLR gets irritated by too many questions. Charlie should have bought Cracker Barrel stock. A few people were missing from the staff meeting. Restaurant in Missouri has to make a statement about Google AI giving false information about their menu specials.
On August 20, Missouri changed its policies around placing inmates with HIV in solitary confinement. The change stems from a lawsuit filed by Honesty Bishop: In 2015, after she was the target of an attempted sexual assault by her cellmate in a Missouri prison, prison officials deemed Bishop “sexually active” and kept her in isolation for more than 2,000 days. Bishop took her own life before the suit could conclude. Her family took it over after her death. STLPR reporter Kavahn Mansouri and Marshall Project reporter Katie Moore share their insights from reporting on the case, including their interviews with Bishop's family and analysis of Missouri's prison policies.
John Hamer makes the surprising argument that the Auditorium is, in fact, a Community of Christ temple—a claim even many RLDS members have never heard. Why does he say this? It ties back to the unfinished temple project of the Church of Christ (Temple Lot), also known as the Hedrickites. For a time, the two churches were essentially constructing rival temples side by side on the historic temple lot. Join us as we dive into this fascinating story! https://youtu.be/Ngfz0UTK5l8 John is the co-author of Scattering of the Saints: Schism Within Mormonism. Don't miss our other episodes with John Hamer! https://gospeltangents.com/people/john-hamer/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved The concept and construction of temples have been a central, yet often contentious, aspect of the Restoration movement. While the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) is well-known for its extensive temple building, other branches of the Restoration tradition have also grappled with their own unique visions and challenges regarding sacred spaces. Historian John Hamer sheds light on the fascinating, and sometimes fraught, history of temple competition and diverse practices among groups like the Community of Christ (formerly RLDS), the Hedrickites, Strangites, and Cutlerites. The Community of Christ's Dual Temple Vision For the Community of Christ, the idea of a "temple" has taken on multiple forms, leading to what some might see as competing sacred spaces. The Auditorium as a Temple: The Community of Christ Auditorium, located on the "greater Temple Lot" in Independence, Missouri, was envisioned by Fred M. Smith as a temple, though he used the modern term "auditorium". Construction began in 1929 during the Great Depression, incurring significant debt. This massive structure, designed for conferences, worship, training, learning, and church headquarters offices, aligned with Joseph Smith III's earlier vision for an Independence temple. Hamer explicitly states that the Auditorium is the temple for the reorganization, a fact often overlooked even within the Community of Christ itself. The Independence Temple: Despite the Auditorium's existence, Fred M. Smith's brother, W. Wallace Smith, who succeeded him as prophet, received revelations about the need to build a temple. This led to the construction of the architecturally magnificent "Spiral Temple," also known as the Community of Christ Temple. Its design incorporates the Fibonacci sequence, symbolizing divine ratios and connecting to ancient Greek civilization, and was a significant draw for Hamer to join the Community of Christ. Hamer suggests that the lack of institutional memory regarding the Auditorium's original purpose might have contributed to the decision to build a second temple. Hedrickites and the Battle for the Temple Lot The Church of Christ (Temple Lot), also know as the Hedrickites the earliest Restoration branch to return to Jackson County, Missouri. They hold a key portion of "the Temple Lot". This property was part of a much larger parcel Edward Partridge originally bought for a total of 24 temples. RLDS Aggression and Backfire: The RLDS Church made aggressive attempts to acquire this land through lawsuits and a "sneaky" plan for "free association". The idea was to absorb the tiny Temple Lot Church, which at the time had minimal active leadership. Otto Fetting/Competing Structures: This plan dramatically backfired when a thousand RLDS members, including Otto Fetting, transferred their membership to the Temple Lot Church. Otto Fetting then began receiving revelations to build a temple, which, strikingly, was designed as an Auditorium-like structure with assembly halls and offices, echoing the former RLDS members' understanding of temples. This created a direct architectural and spiritual competition with the Community of Christ's Auditorium. The Hedrickites believe they found cornerstones for a temple dedicated in th...
May is the month of Mary. In this week's episode we visit the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception to learn about the history of the month of Mary and popular Marian devotions, such as praying the rosary. The Rosary is a Scripture-based prayer. It begins with the Apostles' Creed, which summarizes the great mysteries of the Catholic faith. The Our Father, which introduces each mystery, is from the Gospels. The first part of the Hail Mary is the angel's words announcing Christ's birth and Elizabeth's greeting to Mary. St. Pius V officially added the second part of the Hail Mary. The Mysteries of the Rosary center on the events of Christ's life. There are four sets of Mysteries: Joyful, Sorrowful, Glorious and––added by Saint John Paul II in 2002––the Luminous. Learn more about how to pray rosary. https://www.usccb.org/how-to-pray-the-rosary May is also Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. In this week's episode we highlight a story out of the Diocese of Tulsa which reflects the diversity and richness of our faith! Fr. Samuel Perez, Pastor of Sacred Heart Church in Miami, Oklahoma celebrates mass every weekend in Chuukese for local Micronesian Catholics in addition to five other masses in English and Spanish. People in the pews wear brightly colored traditional clothing and hairstyles. One Micronesian family from southwest Missouri makes the almost two-hour drive to hear Scriptures, prayers and songs in Chuukese. Adding a weekly Mass in Chuukese has improved not just Mass attendance but religious education enrollment at Sacred Heart, from 30 students to 120. Baptisms are up too: Father Perez's calendar in May had 11 baptisms for members of the Micronesian community. Farming jobs attracted many of Oklahoma's Micronesian natives from the island of Chuuk in the South Pacific. For their part, the community members are grateful that Father Perez has worked to learn their language and integrate their culture into the worship experience. “It shows that he really cares,” one altar server said. Father Perez points out that he made a lot of pronunciation mistakes early on, and he's still learning. There was no textbook; he caught on by repeating words his parishioners taught him. “They were very patient with me,” he said. “My accent is thick. I don't know how much they understand me, but it looks like they're OK with it.” Father Perez wants every Catholic to feel welcome and included in their Church home. “When God calls you to be a priest, you are called to serve all people.” The Diocese of Tulsa is currently celebrating its 50th anniversary jubilee year. Click here learn more about the Diocese and the Chuukese Catholic Community at Sacred Heart Church: https://dioceseoftulsa.org/ Coptic Orthodox Pope Tawadros II, patriarch of Alexandria, Egypt, was at the Vatican to mark the 50th anniversary of a joint declaration signed by St. Paul VI and Pope Shenouda III in 1973 outlining the beliefs shared by their churches. Pope Tawadros II called for unity between Catholics and Copts during Pope Francis' general audience. Read the CNS Rome story: https://www.usccb.org/news/2023/pope-pope-let-our-churches-be-united-christs-love Watch the video of this historic meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCTAC7dE_uI
We are just a week away from our next WCPE Book Club discussion talking about Cage. Have you read it yet? Join us in the conversation next week. Cullen is preparing for Rose City Comic Con, which is approaching quickly. As always, you can find Cullen overseeing the Hero Initiative table, which will feature creator guests (and podcast friends) Ande Parks and Phil Hester. Have you started watching Peacemaker yet? You should, but only after the young listeners in our audience have gone to bed. Looking for something different to read? Check out the multiple comic book offerings on Humble Bundle right now. We have our weekly Pick 3 choices, sponsored by our friends at Clint's Comics, plus more trivia and a look at last week's Top Ten Comics sold. We would love to hear your comments on the show. Let us know what you've been reading or watching this week. Contact us on our website, Facebook, Instagram, or by email. We want to hear from you! As always, we are the Worst. Comic. Podcast. EVER! and we hope you enjoy the show. The Worst. Comic. Podcast. EVER! is proudly sponsored by Clint's Comics. Clint's is located at 3941 Main in Kansas City, Missouri, and is open Monday through Saturday. Whether it is new comics, trade paperbacks, action figures, statues, posters, or T-shirts, the friendly and knowledgeable staff can help you find whatever it is that you need. You should also know that Clint's Comics has the most extensive collection of back issues in the metro area. If you need to find a particular book to finish the run of a title, head on down to Clint's or check out their website at clintscomics.com. Tell them that the Worst. Comic. Podcast. EVER! sent you.
We're also thrilled when one of our past “Under the Radar” guests go on and accomplish big things in the competition world. Jacob Watt of the Kansas City-area team Smoke This Drink That told us back in February that winning a KCBS Masters Division Grand Championship was a goal in 2025. It was mission accomplished Aug. 16 when he and wife Paige celebrate their first GC with a whopping 710.85 total at the BBQ and Fly-In on the River in Excelsior Springs, Missouri. On Episode 320 of the Tailgate Guys BBQ Podcast, Jacob returns to tell us how he's become one of the nation's hottest teams and what's next for Smoke This Drink That. It's also fun to see a small business grow. Joshua Brock is a former Marine who founded JB's Gourmet Spice Blends in Ozark, Missouri, nearly 10 years ago. His popular rubs and spices, along with a trio of hot sauces, have become regional favorites and can be found in grocery stores and BBQ stores in six states. Learn about JB's story as we talk it over with him in our second guest segment. Skyler Spartan joins us from Grill Guys of Missouri to preview the big 4th anniversary celebration this weekend, with cooking demos and a brisket class from Brad and Bre of Smokin' Magic BBQ on the schedule. Co-hosts Steve and Lyndal also talk about their latest cooking adventures. Check out the show in the link below or on your favorite #podcast platform. A big thanks to our show sponsors and marketing partners. Please support them: Blues Hog #blueshognation Royal Oak Charcoal #charcoalofchampions The Butcher Shoppe #alwayshandpicked The Grill Guys of Missouri #grillguys417 Marty "Sign Man" Prather Domino's #pizza Clark Crew BBQ #clarkcrewbbq Mister Brisket #thighlife Have a great week! #SmokeEmIfYouGotEm
#870. This week, Kaitlyn is joined by The McBee Dynasty's Steven McBee Jr. — the cowboy turned reality TV star whose family drama is giving Yellowstone a run for its money. From his days on Joe Millionaire to running a 40,000-acre farm to that infamous butt shower scene, Steven's spilling everything we've been dying to know.He's dishing on how his family landed a Bravo show, where things really stand with Calah, the surprising type of women he can't resist, and why his first dates literally cost thousands. We're also getting personal: his dad's absence this season, his mom stepping into the spotlight, and if we'll ever see him handing out roses on The Bachelor.And of course — we wrap it up with a juicy confession that involves a girl, a freezing Missouri night, and a gas station fail. Buckle up, because this convo is equal parts cowboy, chaos, and confessions!If you're LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE!Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these deals!Audible: Your first great love story is free when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at Audible.com/vine.Figs: If you're in healthcare—or shopping for someone who is—you can get 15% off your first order at wearfigs.com with the code FIGSRX.Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance.Pura: For a limited time, get 20% off Pura Car Pro and all car scents with code CAR20 at Pura.comEPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: (2:13) – How the McBee Dynasty Became Reality Tv!(7:30) – Steven answers the #1 fan question about his on-again, off-again girlfriend.(8:52) – Why His First Dates Cost Thousands of Dollars!(22:49) – Where's Steven's Dad This Season? Steven opens up about his father's absence.(39:40) – Steven shares an epic confession that involves a girl he was in love with and a gas station disaster.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Mola Lenghi has details on the powerful explosion in a neighborhood north of St. Louis, Missouri, that leveled multiple homes and injured at least three people; Trevor Ault reports on the record-breaking heat fueling large wildfires across three states, forcing thousands to flee; James Longman has the latest on outrage growing after Israeli airstrikes on a Gaza hospital killed five journalists, who were among at least 20 killed and dozens more injured – Israel says they were operating against Hamas and journalists were not specifically targeted; and more on tonight's broadcast of World News Tonight with David Muir. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Missouri's newly appointed Attorney General Catherine Hanaway is stepping into a complicated role that includes baggage of her three predecessors — Josh Hawley, Eric Schmitt, and Andrew Bailey — who each left for higher office before finishing a full term. On this episode of the Legal Roundtable, our panel of expert attorneys discusses whether Hanaway can break new ground as AG. The roundtable also talks about the latest developments in the felony charges filed against County Executive Sam Page; a series of recent lawsuits targeting St. Louis businesses whose websites are allegedly not accessible to blind people; and a lawyer's argument that Washington University police are not actually “law enforcement officers.”
0:00 SEGMENT 1: Matt Manjourides talks about ‘Not The Funeral Home', a full-service production company specializing in high-value, cost-effective films and productions. He also talks about working with Shudder, bringing back Joe Bob Briggs, and his top 3 horror films.https://notthefuneralhome.net/ https://www.instagram.com/manjourides/ 30:23 SEGMENT 2: Brandon Schmitt talks about his gaming pop-up at Work+Leisure called LANmark, his earliest gaming memories, https://workandleisurestl.com/event-cale/lanmark-presents-alpha-game-night 50:23 SEGMENT 3: Brandon shares the discount code SEGANERD to get a discount on ticketsCheck out the ‘Justice League Revisited Podcast' with Susan Eisenberg and James Enstall at https://anchor.fm/justiceleague Thanks to our sponsors Historic St. Charles, Missouri (https://www.discoverstcharles.com/), Bug's Comics and Games (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100070575531223)Buy Me a Coffee - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/3Y0D2iaZl Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/GeekToMeRadio Website - http://geektomeradio.com/ Podcast - https://anchor.fm/jamesenstall Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/GeekToMeRadio/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/geektomeradio Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/geektomeradio/ Producer - Joseph Vosevich https://twitter.com/Joey_Vee
What happens when ordinary people cross paths with something extraordinary — and deadly — in the most unexpected corners of America? In this chilling episode of Bigfoot Society, Jeremiah Byron shares a raw collection of firsthand call-in encounters recorded live on TikTok. From a nine-year-old girl in frozen Ohio who hears unearthly whoops and finds massive prints beside a battered tree… to an Oregon driver shadowed along the notorious Bigfoot Highway… to a Tennessee grandfather dodging flying sticks in a swamp… to an East Texas teen who watched a towering figure snatch a wild hog in one arm… and more. You'll travel through farmlands, swamps, mountain passes, and icy creeks — where the stench of death, shattered trees, and unnatural silences are the only warning before it's too late. These aren't legends. These are the stories they'll never forget — and after you hear them, neither will you.
Susan Pendergrass speaks with Edward L.Glaeser, professor of economics at Harvard University and nonresident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, about America's housing crisis. They discuss why affordability is a supply problem, how zoning and land-use rules drive up costs, the decline of suburban building, and what states like Missouri can do to encourage growth and restore opportunity. Produced by Show-Me Opportunity
Retired Intelligence Unit Detective Gary Jenkins interviews author Robert Webster, president of the Kenton County Historical Society, about his book, The Beverly Hills Supper Club – The Untold Story Behind Kentucky's Worst Tragedy. Webster revisits one of America's deadliest nightclub fires, unearthing the possible mafia ties, cover-ups, and shocking safety failures that shaped this haunting night. Robert Webster outlines the rise of the Beverly Hills Supper Club in Southgate, Kentucky, noting its glamorous past hosting Las Vegas–worthy shows—and its lasting link with organized crime in Northern Kentucky. The 1977 Fire and Its Devastation On May 28, 1977, the club was engulfed in flames, ultimately claiming 165 lives—making it one of the deadliest nightclub fires in U.S. history. Safety Failures and Code Violations Webster discusses staggering oversights: overcrowding far beyond legal capacity, lack of marked or accessible exits, absence of sprinklers or alarms, unsafe wiring, poor construction, and inadequate regulatory enforcement—true firetrap conditions. Unraveling the “Untold” Story What truly sets Webster's work apart is his examination of the controversial claim that mafia operatives may have deliberately set the fire in retaliation for the owner's refusal to cooperate—a theory supported by previously unreleased documents, crew testimonies, and survivor accounts. Investigative and Legal Aftermath The episode highlights the State's formal review of the arson allegations, which concluded they lacked “proof,” being largely speculative. Meanwhile, Webster's book earned him a 2013 Kentucky History Award for its contribution to the record. Click here to get this fascinating account of this devastating fire in The Beverly Hills Supper Club – The Untold Story Behind Kentucky's Worst Tragedy. Subscribe to Gangland Wire wherever you get your podcasts, and join us each week as we uncover the stories buried beneath the headlines—and the bodies. Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or your favorite podcast app. Hit me up on Venmo for a cup of coffee or a shot and a beer @ganglandwire Click here to "buy me a cup of coffee" To go to the store or make a donation or rent Ballot Theft: Burglary, Murder, Coverup, click here To rent Brothers against Brothers, the documentary, click here. To rent Gangland Wire, the documentary, click here Gary Jenkins: [00:00:00] well hey, all you wire tapper's. Good to be back here in the studio of Gangland Wire. I have a, a little bit different sort of a story. It's it's part mob and, and part fire protection and a huge fire that was you know, it really hit the headlines all over the United States back in the seventies. It's Bob Webster, Bob really appreciate you coming on the show. I appreciate the invitation. Looking forward to it now, Bob, you got, you got a pretty good accent. You, you got about as good an accent as I do. We're a little bit different speaking, aren't we? Little bit a little bit different. My New York fans and my Chicago fans I bet. And my Southern fans you know, you got that, we got that kind of Midwest twang, I guess, if you will. Exactly. Kentucky and I'm from Missouri and you know, Bob, my, my first relatives came, of course, from Virginia first, then to Kentucky, and then onto Missouri. It's the, okay. It was the immigrant path back there in the 18 hundreds, and I got a ton of them that some of 'em are still down there actually from they came here in the [00:01:00] 1860s, just before the Civil War. They came to Missouri, but okay, but deep roots there in Kentucky. Oh, guys, the, the book is inside the Beverly Hills Supper Club, the untold story behind Kentucky's Worst Tragedy, and it happened in May 28th, 1977 as the Supper Club right along the Ohio River. And Bob is from that area and he does a lot of local history down there. And Bob, you've got other books out there, correct? I do,
Missouri's incoming attorney general says she'll serve the rest of outgoing Attorney General Andrew Bailey's term before she runs for a full term in 2028. Former House Speaker and former U.S. Attorney Catherine Hanaway spoke Sunday on 939 the Eagle's “Jennifer Bukowsky show”. Governor Mike Kehoe announced her appointment last week. "Missouri Times" publisher Scott Faughn joined hosts Randy Tobler and Stephanie Bell live on 939 the Eagle's "Wake Up Missouri" this morning and praises Hanaway's appointment. Mr. Faughn tells listeners that she'll be able to start on day one. Mr. Faughn also reflected on the legacy of State Rep. Ken Waller (R-Herculaneum), who died Saturday. Scott says Mr. Waller died from a massive heart attack and will be missed. Colleagues on both sides of the aisle praise Rep. Waller's service:
Is the social media era finally losing its grip on us?In this episode, Alex reads his essay “Peak Social Media: When the Craze Becomes a Chore,” examining platform fatigue, expert perspectives on digital burnout, and the quiet rise of slower, more intentional spaces like Reddit and Substack.CONNECT:All the Fits That's News on Substack (Free or Paid)Alex's Author Website Mysterious Goings On websiteContact Alex about advertising/sponsorship here.Buy a Book!Going to Killing City...Alex's True Crime PodcastEnjoy this episode? Please leave us a review on your podcast platform of choice, and don't forget to subscribe for more literary journeys! LEAVE A REVIEW ON APPLE PODCASTS Announcer: Mary McKenna. Original theme music "Mysterious Goings On" by Jamie Green. Want your own cool score for your podcast or website? Contact Jamie at Greenhouse Consulting. Check out Jamie's interview on the show here.Intro music: "Half Mystery" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/This Mysterious Goings On Podcast episode was recorded and mixed at Green Shebeen Studios in beautiful Kansas City, Missouri. Copyright 2025, all rights reserved. No reproduction, excerpting, or other use without written permission.
(00:00-21:40) Are these high school kids playing in a garage? Cut the Scorpions some slack. SEC moving to nine conference games starting in 2026. Specifics of the change. Who will be Missouri's three requested opponents to play every year. Is Mizzou everybody else's Vanderbilt? DJ is on hold and wants to talk Micah Parsons and Jerry Jones. I think he thinks he called the national ESPN radio line. Mark "Moose" Messier. Big win for Jackson.(21:48-34:34) Dua Lipa brining us back. Happy Birthday, Dua. Didn't get a chance to catch Felger and Massarotti. Audio of 98.5 in Boston taking some shots at Bill Belichick. Can you be abstinent and horny? Surprised Belichick wants all that comes along with coaching in college.(34:44-49:02) Don't cry for me, Argentina. What's coming up on Movie Boy this weekend? Seminal baseball movies. Doug's easy to look at. Drops of the Week. Kevin Pollak. Efforting Porta Potty Guy as a surprise guest. Farmageddon.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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The 8am hour of Friday's Mac & Cube continued with the first MAXX BALL FRIDAY of the 2025 season!! We began with Mike Repole, co-owner of The UFL, telling us why he threw out that 5,000 season ticket number, and what he wants the future of the Birmingham Stallions to be; then, with Mike definitively saying that the Stallions will be back in Birmingham next season, listeners hope that the rug won't get pulled out from under them; later, Golden Domer explains why the SEC has the best fans; and finally, Jarod Hamilton, who covers Missouri for Power Mizzou & 247 Sports, says why multiple QBs will be utilized in Missouri's early game(s), what question marks the offense has, and how crazy this defense is going to be. "McElroy & Cubelic In The Morning" airs 7am-10am weekdays on WJOX-94.5!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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0:00 SEGMENT 1: Weapons, Freakier Friday25:39 SEGMENT 2: Highest 2 Lowest37:28 SEGMENT 3: Nobody 2, Happy Gilmore 2Check out the ‘Justice League Revisited Podcast' with Susan Eisenberg and James Enstall at https://anchor.fm/justiceleague Thanks to our sponsors Historic St. Charles, Missouri (https://www.discoverstcharles.com/), Bug's Comics and Games (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100070575531223)Buy Me a Coffee - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/3Y0D2iaZl Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/GeekToMeRadio Website - http://geektomeradio.com/ Podcast - https://anchor.fm/jamesenstall Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/GeekToMeRadio/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/geektomeradio Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/geektomeradio/ Producer - Joseph Vosevich https://twitter.com/Joey_Vee
Susan Pendergrass talks with Matthew Ladner, senior advisor for education policy implementation at the Heritage Foundation's Center for Education Policy, about a recent Washington Post article blaming Arizona's Empowerment Scholarship Accounts for school closures in the Roosevelt Elementary School District. They unpack the real reasons behind declining enrollment, the role of open enrollment and charter schools, and why most Arizona students exercising school choice are still in public schools. The discussion covers how media narratives overlook parent-driven decisions, the political resistance to letting kids leave low-performing districts, and why open enrollment could be a game changer for states like Missouri. Ladner also shares his broader perspective on the post-COVID shift toward educational self-reliance and what it means for the future of public education. Produced by Show-Me Opportunity
On today's Top News in 10, we cover: The FBI announces over 500 arrests in Washington DC as media flips over the arrest of an alleged rapist. Sen. Eric Schmitt of Missouri joins us to talk judicial fights. Our own Virginia Allen gets us up to speed on President Trump, Ukraine, Russia, the Europeans, and […]
Guest is Missouri Sen. Eric Schmitt whose new book, “The Last Line of Defense – How to Beat the Left in Court,”is about his fierce fights as the state's attorney general against mask and Covid vaccine mandates, the student loan forgiveness scam, and the censorship machine put in place by the Biden administration and Silicon Valley. Classic Movie Review of “The Far Horizons,” the 1955 movie about the Lewis & Clark Expedition that started in St. Louis, Missouri.
In this episode of Men of Influence, host Tim Holloway welcomes Paul List, a church planter and campus chaplain at Missouri Valley College in Marshall, Missouri. Fresh into the third week of his church plant, Relevant Church, Paul shares his journey from serving as a senior pastor in nearby Slater, Missouri, to answering God's call to plant a church just 13 miles away, targeting college students and the local community. With nearly 90 attendees already, Paul's ministry focuses on reaching a diverse student body from across the globe, fulfilling the Great Commission by fostering discipleship and flexibility in a non-traditional church model. As a chaplain to 1,500 students, he emphasizes living out faith authentically to influence others.Paul dives into the importance of faith as a transformative influence, prioritizing obedience to God's call over worldly measures of success like bigger platforms or paychecks. He shares how spiritual disciplines; starting the day with prayer and Bible study; form the foundation for a healthy spiritual life. To grow exponentially, Paul advocates for accountability through transparent men's groups and stepping out of comfort zones, such as mission trips, which accelerate faith by exposing people to global perspectives and gratitude. He urges listeners to invest in the next generation, emphasizing that the simple gospel of Jesus Christ unites believers across all divides.Key Takeaways:Obedient Faith: Prioritize God's call over worldly success, embracing sacrifice and discomfort to model authentic faith for others.Spiritual Disciplines: Start and end each day with prayer and Bible study to ground your faith and influence.Community Accountability: Join a transparent men's group to share struggles and grow in trust and faith.Mission-Driven Growth: Take mission trips to expand perspective, strip away entitlement, and ignite passion for the Great Commission.“Stop looking out for the next guy and start looking inside your church. Your Timothy is already there; pour into them now.” - Paul ListLearn more about Tim through the following links:FacebookPodcasting group
Today on the Digging in Podcast. Randy Little joins the show to talk about all things State Fair, agriculture, southwest Missouri, and of course his time at PFI. He shares with us how he got started and what drives him to continue to do more. If you have spent time in southwest Missouri over the past 40 years, you've probably seen or visited the western store mecca PFI (Preferred Farmers Incorporated). Overlooking Hwy 65 in Springfield, the business was the place to shop for all things western, and their tagline “…and I'm not kidding” was a mainstay on TV commercials across the Ozarks. Former owner, Randy Little, sold PFI a few years ago, but he's still engaged in the business community and Missouri's agriculture industry. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts to have Digging In sent directly to your smart device each time it's released! Host: Janet Adkison, Missouri Farm Bureau Director of Public Affairs Guest: Randy Little, Missouri State Fair Commission Member Producer: Jacob King, Missouri Farm Bureau Video & Audio Media Specialist
topics:success, player recruitment, portal, select baseball & high school, player character with talent and more...Since taking over on Rocky Top, Vitello has led the Big Orange back to national prominence and has helped establish Tennessee baseball as an SEC and national power, leading the program to its first ever National Championship in 2024 as well as six NCAA regional appearances (2019, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025), five NCAA super regionals (2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025) and a trio of Men's College World Series appearances (2021, 2023, 2024).A native of St. Louis, Missouri, Vitello arrived at UT following four seasons as assistant coach/recruiting coordinator at Arkansas. His rise to the head coaching ranks also included stops at Missouri (his alma mater) and TCU. He has earned a reputation as one of the elite recruiters on the college baseball landscape, having assembled 14 top-15 signing classes--including America's top-rated crop of talent in 2014 and 2024.During a full-time, Division I coaching career spanning 22 years, Vitello has signed and developed 16 first-round MLB Draft picks and a handful of players who have gone on to play in Major League Baseball, including nine during his time at UT in Garrett Crochet, Ben Joyce, Andre Lipcius, Trey Lipscomb, Jordan Beck, Seth Halvorsen, Chase Dollander, Blade Tidwell and Christian Moore. Other notable MLB players coached by Vitello include Brandon Finnegan, Kyle Gibson, All-Star Aaron Crow, Gold Glove Award winner and All-Star Andrew Benintendi, Gold Glove Award winner and four-time All-Star Ian Kinsler and five-time All-Star and three-time Cy Young Award winner Max Scherzer.Vitello, who has earned six National Coach of the Year honors over three different seasons at Tennessee, has recruited and developed 10 first-round picks during his tenure with the Vols, including an NCAA-leading and program-record four first rounders in the 2025 MLB Draft, led by the No. 5 overall pick in pitcher Liam Doyle. Crochet, who was selected with the 11th overall pick in the 2020 MLB Draft and became the first player to go from the draft to the big leagues without playing in the minors since Mike Leake did so with the Reds in 2010. UT has had at least two players drafted in the first round in three of the past four seasons (2022, 2024, 2025).Tennessee has had 52 players drafted since 2018 when Vitello took over as head coach, averaging 6.5 picks per year. Since 2021, the Vols' 42 total draft picks lead the nation.
Smart Social Podcast: Learn how to shine online with Josh Ochs
Protect your family with our 1-minute free parent quiz https://www.smartsocial.com/newsletterJoin our next weekly live parent events: https://smartsocial.com/eventsIn this episode of the SmartSocial.com Podcast, host Josh Ochs sits down with Dr. Paul Fregeau, Superintendent of the Fox C-6 School District in Missouri, to discuss effective strategies for keeping kids safe online. Topics include the importance of parent involvement in children's digital activities, challenges with staffing and tech device rollouts, the impact of online threats, and the benefits of building strong relationships between parents, schools, and law enforcement. Parents and educators are provided with practical tips for monitoring screen time, recognizing red flags of dangerous behavior, and maintaining open lines of communication with their children. The episode also features valuable advice from teens on managing screen time and recognizing potential dangers online.Become a Smart Social VIP (Very Informed Parents) Member: https://SmartSocial.com/vipDistrict Leaders: Schedule a free phone consultation to get ideas on how to protect your students in your community https://smartsocial.com/partnerDownload the free Smart Social app: https://www.smartsocial.com/appdownloadLearn about the top 190+ popular teen apps: https://smartsocial.com/app-guide-parents-teachers/View the top parental control software: https://smartsocial.com/parental-control-software/The SmartSocial.com Podcast helps parents and educators to keep their kids safe on social media, so they can Shine Online™
We are down one podcaster this week, but never fear! You are still getting a complete podcast featuring 100% of the nerdy content you have come to love over the last decade with the Worst. Comic. Podcast. EVER! Cullen is preparing for Rose City Comic Con, which is approaching quickly. As always, you can find Cullen overseeing the Hero Initiative table, which will feature creator guests (and podcast friends) Ande Parks and Phil Hester. Last month, Esquire magazine published its list of the 25 greatest superhero movies. While they generally get things right, there were a couple that had us scratching our heads and saying "Really?" about. Send us in your thoughts on the Top 25 list and let us know what you think should be up for consideration. We have our weekly Pick 3 choices, sponsored by our friends at Clint's Comics, plus more trivia. We would love to hear your comments on the show. Let us know what you've been reading or watching this week. Contact us on our website, Facebook, Instagram, or by email. We want to hear from you! As always, we are the Worst. Comic. Podcast. EVER! and we hope you enjoy the show. The Worst. Comic. Podcast. EVER! is proudly sponsored by Clint's Comics. Clint's is located at 3941 Main in Kansas City, Missouri, and is open Monday through Saturday. Whether it is new comics, trade paperbacks, action figures, statues, posters, or T-shirts, the friendly and knowledgeable staff can help you find whatever it is that you need. You should also know that Clint's Comics has the most extensive collection of back issues in the metro area. If you need to find a particular book to finish the run of a title, head on down to Clint's or check out their website at clintscomics.com. Tell them that the Worst. Comic. Podcast. EVER! sent you.
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From his home base in Arizona, Sterling Smith has been all over the world cooking, teaching and promoting his BBQ and Loot 'n Booty product line. On Episode 319 of the Tailgate Guys BBQ Podcast, Sterling reviews the journey that included competition cooking since 2009 and recaps 2025 visits to Hawaii, New Zealand and Croatia among other stops and a busy fall schedule ahead with tickets punched to the Jack Daniel World BBQ Invitational and American Royal World Series of BBQ. We also talk it over with Charlie Wallace about the latest happenings at The Grill Guys of Missouri. Co-host Lyndal reviews the Tailgate Guys competition team's weekend trip to BBQ & Fly In on the River in Excelsior Springs, Missouri, and co-host Steve talks about a step out of the open-fire cooking box for a different kind of bird. Check out the show in the link below or on your favorite #podcast platform. A big thanks to our show sponsors and marketing partners. Please support them: Blues Hog #blueshognation Royal Oak Charcoal #charcoalofchampions The Butcher Shoppe #alwayshandpicked The Grill Guys of Missouri #grillguys417 Marty "Sign Man" Prather Domino's #pizza Clark Crew BBQ #clarkcrewbbq Mister Brisket #thighlife Have a great week! #SmokeEmIfYouGotEm
In this episode of the Missouri Woods and Water Podcast, hosts Andy, Nate, and Micah welcome guest Preston Weigel to share his thrilling hunting story. Preston recounts his journey of hunting in Missouri, the challenges he faced during the season, and the exhilarating experience of encountering and ultimately harvesting a huge buck. The conversation delves into hunting strategies, gear, and the emotional rollercoaster of the hunt, providing a lot of twists and turns. Thanks for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode, I sit down with Caleb Geuns of St. Peter's, Missouri, owner of Diamond G Hat Company. Caleb shares how his childhood days of shooting BB guns evolved into a love for sharpshooting and archery, how his marketing career at Red Bull provided a foundation in branding, and how watching his dad shape cowboy hats inspired him to launch his own business.We also talk about how Caleb's story took an unexpected turn when he stepped out in faith and started shaping hats for others. That boldness eventually landed him the chance to fit hats for former St. Louis Cardinal turned country music singer Adam Wainwright and his star-studded band, a gig that came about simply because he was willing to shoot his shot.Caleb and I were first introduced through the power of social media, and what started as a simple interaction has grown into a friendship and my own newfound love for cowboy hats. It's a reminder of how connection, community, and shared passion can change the direction of our lives in ways we never expect.From building a brand to now serving in his church, Caleb's journey is one of grit, grace, and God's direction. Together, we dive into hunting, heritage, faith, and the art of shaping not just hats, but a life worth living.Find Diamond G Hat Company:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/diamondghatcompany/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diamondghatco/?hl=enFind our host Maggie at:TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themaggiewilliams?lang=enInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/themaggiewilliams/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/themaggiewilliamspodcast/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnJHqUBdfgnFLc3P87r88VwIf you need a knife that stays sharp when it matters, Outdoor Edge's RazorSafe system is the perfect solution. With its easy-to-use, replaceable blades, you can keep a fresh, razor-sharp edge at all times. Head to OutdoorEdge.com and use code MAGGIE at checkout for 15% off your first order.Shop now: https://www.outdooredge.com/collections/huntingOuterLimit Powersports: Located in Dyersburg, TN, OuterLimit Powersports is your go-to destination for all things off-road and outdoor adventure. An award-winning Can-Am dealership dedicated to equipping you with everything you need to conquer your outdoor adventures or agricultural needs. OuterLimit Powersports provides expert customer service, top-of-the-line equipment, and a wide variety of accessories to keep your adventures running smoothly. Visit OuterLimit Powersports and let the adventure begin! https://www.outerlimitpowersports.com/SHOP OFFICIAL PODCAST MERCH: https://themaggiewilliams.comIf you enjoyed this week's podcast, please share it with a friend and give us a five-star rating. If you're feeling generous, I sure would appreciate a review! Thank you so much for putting us at #3 in the nation on the Wilderness Charts. All Glory to the Good Lord!God bless! See y'all here same time next week.
Rob Pizzola and the team from The Hammer Betting Network dive deep into the latest news and drama making waves on Gambling Twitter. From controversial takes to unexpected betting strategies, we're breaking down all the must-know moments from the week with Joey Knish, Chris Dierkes, and Jacob Gramegna. In today's show, we react to Chris Dierkes' (Flupnolide) outburst right before recording our live show, we recap BetBash 2025 and discuss Rufus Peabody sticking up for Steve Fezzik's tout service. Whether you're here for the insights or just the entertainment, don't miss this lively discussion on the hottest topics in the betting community on Circle Back, the latest show on The Hammer Betting Network, part of Circles Off and proudly presented by Kalshi.
Senator Eric Schmitt, Republican of Missouri and author of the brand new book The Last Line of Defense: How to Beat the Left in Court (out today), joined The Guy Benson Show today to discuss why it is both good and necessary for the right to challenge the left's overreach in court. He explained why their continued grasp for control must be reined in and why true leadership requires people to stand up and fight. Schmitt also said indictments are the next step in the Russiagate collusion scandal. Finally, Sen. Schmitt stressed that Republicans must have the "courage" to redistrict Democrats who, in his words, "set the rules" with their gerrymandering efforts. Listen to the full interview below! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Trump Admin Just Tapped The Hardcore Patriot AG Of Missouri To Be The Co-Deputy FBI Director & Lead The Fight Against The Deep State! Plus, Trump Just Scored Another Win, Secures Zelensky/Putin Meeting
A Bigger Life Prayer and Bible Devotionals with Pastor Dave Cover
This is Christian Meditation for A Bigger Life – a time for you to relax your body and refocus your mind to experience the reality of God's presence. I'm Dave Cover. I want to help you with Christian meditation where you can break through all the distractions and experience God's presence through biblically guided imagination. *Note: We will release just one episode per week on Tuesdays during the summer. Acts 17:25 NIV “He himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else.” Isaiah 30:15 ESV For thus said the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel, “In returning and rest you shall be saved; in quietness and in trust shall be your strength.” Isaiah 30:15 NABRE For thus said the Lord God, the Holy One of Israel: By waiting and by calm you shall be saved, in quiet and in trust shall be your strength. Who can you share this podcast with? If you found this episode helpful, consider sharing it on social media or texting it to a friend you think might benefit from it. Follow Dave Cover on X (Twitter) @davecover Follow A Bigger Life on X @ABiggerLifePod Our audio engineer is Matthew Matlack. This podcast is a ministry of The Crossing, a church in Columbia, Missouri, a college town where the flagship campus of the University of Missouri is located.
This week, we pay tribute to one of Missouri's greatest conservationists — Jerry Presley, former Director of the Missouri Department of Conservation, who passed away on August 9, 2025, at the age of 94.Jerry dedicated nearly four decades to protecting and managing Missouri's natural resources and inspired generations of outdoor lovers through his leadership, mentorship, and passion for the outdoors. From his humble roots in Low Wassie to the helm of MDC, Jerry lived a life defined by service, stewardship, and a deep love for the Missouri wilderness.In remembrance, we're replaying Episode 60, one of our all-time favorite conversations. Recorded five years ago, Jerry joined us to talk about:Growing up in the Ozarks during the Great DepressionThe creation of Eleven Point State ParkConservation legends and legislationWaterfowl, exotic pets, and goggle-eye fishing…and yes, even Bigfoot and the Mystery Bait BucketIt was a conversation full of wisdom, laughter, and timeless stories.Whether you're a longtime listener or new to Driftwood Outdoors, we invite you to sit back and enjoy this special episode that captures the spirit of a true conservation pioneer.Rest easy, Jerry — and thank you.In lieu of flowers, the family requests expressions of sympathy to be made in the form of donations to the Jerry J. Presley Conservation Endowed Scholarship at the University of Missouri.Link to make donations is HERESpecial thanks to:Living The Dream Outdoor PropertiesSuperior Foam Insulation LLCDoolittle TrailersScenic Rivers TaxidermyConnect with Driftwood Outdoors:FacebookInstagramYouTubeEmail:info@driftwoodoutdoors.com
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266. Choosing Fun and Adventure in Your Marriage and with Your Family: An Interview with Dan & Sam Mathews Isaiah 55:12 MSG “So you'll go out in joy, you'll be led into a whole and complete life. The mountains and hills will lead the parade, bursting with song. All the trees of the forest will join the procession, exuberant with applause. No more thistles, but giant sequoias, no more thornbushes, but stately pines— Monuments to me, to God, living and lasting evidence of God.” *Transcription Below* Dan and Sam Mathews have been married since 2014 and currently reside in Missouri with their two kids, Canyon and Ember. Since the moment they got married, Dan and Samantha have been living a life of sacrifice and faith. From backpacking in Arkansas to RV road trips across the US, they have always taken the adventurous route. Sam is a lifestyle vlogger and content creator, and Dan hosts a hunting podcast in addition to his social platforms. Together they share their life of adventure online with millions of followers. Follow them on socials @wearedanandsam. Thank You to Our Sponsor: Sam Leman Eureka Questions and Topics We Cover: What are a few adventures you're so grateful you said yes to in life? Matthew 25:26 MSG says, "That's a terrible way to live! It's criminal to live cautiously like that!" So drawing your wisdom from the Lord, how does your faith fuel your sense of adventure? How can we begin to enjoy an adventurous life in our marriage and with our family? Other Episodes Mentioned from The Savvy Sauce Podcast: 82 Traveling with Your Family with Katie Mueller 242 Stories Series: He Gives and Takes Away with Joyce Hodel Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook, Instagram or Our Website Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.” Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.” John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“ Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“ Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” *Transcription* Music: (0:00 – 0:09) Laura Dugger: (0:11 - 1:47) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. The principles of honesty and integrity that Sam Leman founded his business on continue today over 55 years later at Sam Leman Chevrolet Eureka. Owned and operated by the Burchie family, Sam Leman's Eureka appreciates the support they've received from their customers all over central Illinois and beyond. Visit them today at lemangm.com. Dan and Sam Mathews are my guests for today, and you may know them from all the social platforms at WeAreDanAndSam. They live a life of high faith and delightful adventure, and their book, Always Choose Adventure: One Couple's Journey of Chasing the Things in Life That Matter Most, is actually going to release this month. I would highly recommend it. It was an amazing read. I read through it so fast, and it was a great combination of enjoying the stories but learning so much along the way. It's kind of like our chat for today. We're going to cover various stories, but Dan and Sam are also going to give us simple and practical ideas and tips for adding a sense of fun into our marriage and into our family life. Here's our chat. Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Dan and Sam. Dan Mathews: (1:47 - 1:48) Thank you for having us. We're excited. We are really excited. Laura Dugger: (1:49 - 1:59) Well, I'm so excited to journey back and get to hear more of your story, but will you first just give us an overview of what current life looks like right now? Sam Mathews: (2:00 - 2:29) Yes. Currently, I'm 22 weeks pregnant with our third baby. We have two kiddos. Canyon is almost nine. Ember is seven. We live in Southern Missouri. We love adventuring and traveling, and Dan hunts. We share life on every platform, so just lifestyle, vlogging, and sharing our adventures. We recently settled down in a home, and so this is our first time doing DIYs for ourselves. Yeah, it's a fun season right now. Dan Mathews: (2:29 - 2:46) And Sam loves to host, so I think we have 48 parties scheduled this summer and knocked out a couple already, but yeah, we're excited about life, excited about adventure, and sharing that with people and how they can actually get out and adventure more. Laura Dugger: (2:47 - 3:01) You do that so well, but if we're going back then to more of the origin stories, will you both share your journey of growing up and your stories that eventually led for the two of you to overlap with one another? Sam Mathews: (3:01 - 3:37) Yeah, definitely. It's always been me, my mom, and my sister. My mom was a single mom raising us, born in California, but then she moved us to Southern Missouri when I was young, and this was a great place to raise us. In the Bible Belt, we were raised pretty much in church. She did an amazing job as a single mom, just caring for us and pointing us to Christ. We got plugged into a church very early on. We volunteered there. My sister and I worked there. We attended there, and so we're really involved, and that's how I met Dan when he came to Bible College. Dan Mathews: (3:37 - 4:58) Yeah, I grew up in central Wisconsin. We went to church Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, was very, very involved with the kid's ministry and youth group and just any opportunity I could be around that church community, I was. We had a group called Master's Commission that would come up and do outreach at our church. They were from Florida, and I was like, man, I want to do that one day. These guys are awesome. They're doing human videos, and they're all musical. My dad's brother and his family moved down to Southern Missouri, and I get a call one day right after high school. They were like, “Hey, there's a Master's Commission program down here. If you want to do it, we'll pay for it.” I was like, “Sure, let's do it.” Almost no questions asked, just kind of like, all right, tell me the date I have to be there. Then, I started packing stuff up and quit my job and moved down knowing absolutely nobody. I got plugged into the church. I became very, very involved, and then just built a community, and through that, I went there with Sam's sister, her older sister, and I got to know Sam, and then I ended up working out at the gym that she worked at. Sam Mathews: (4:59 - 5:00) Which was at our church. Dan Mathews: (5:00 - 5:15) Which was at the church, and so we were just around each other all the time, and that kind of developed over years and years and years. Then one day, I was like, wow, this chick is awesome, and now we're here doing podcasting. Laura Dugger: (5:16 - 5:32) Which is incredible. Okay, so just to pause, and you go into more of these stories, love your books, so easy to read, but can you take us back to what you both first thought of one another when you were meeting those days at the gym? Oh, gee. Sam Mathews: (5:33 - 6:22) For sure, Dan is the life of the party, like he is comedy, and just, he has all the jokes, and definitely a charmer with all the ladies, but so fun to be around, and not only his humor draws you in, but I didn't grow up with a father, and so I liked the, I don't know, like strong aspect that he had, just like the confidence, and then his relationship with the Lord was something that I desired to have for myself, you know, a leader in a couple like together, someone to point me towards Christ, but the lightheartedness and jokes and humor keep the hard days fun, but that for me was, you know, I always can count on you for a good joke. Dan Mathews: (6:23 - 6:41) Yeah, I, when I first met Sam, it was kind of in a group setting, and it was with her older sister with my younger brother, and it was like, oh, this is, you know, Justine's sister. Little sister. Didn't really think a whole lot of it, but after a couple years, I think you were probably a sophomore at that time when I first met you. Sam Mathews: (6:41 - 6:42) Yeah. Dan Mathews: (6:42 - 7:36) And, and then after a couple years, it was like she was volunteering in the youth group, and she was on the recreation staff at our camps, and so it's like we were spending more time together, and I'm like, oh, Justine's sister's kind of cute, and yeah, we started, we started just kind of a friendship. We were just around each other all the time. I mean, like before we were dating, we're really interested in each other. It's like I was walking back from the lake, and she'd hop on my back, and I'd just give her a piggyback ride up to the cabins, and then looking back, I'm like, wow, our lives just were really intermingled and overlapped for years and years, but early on, she was younger. She had braces. She was a hip-hop dance instructor, so I mean, she would have like one sweat pant leg rolled up, high-top Nikes on all the time, like thought she was the coolest thing ever. Laura Dugger: (7:36 - 7:52) I was. I didn't think. Oh, that's amazing. I love that, and my husband and I were also friends first, and I feel like that does set you up well in marriage. Like you've got your built-in buddy. Sam Mathews: (7:53 - 8:30) Exactly. I was going through pictures yesterday, because I was going to post a trend online, and it was like, oh, how cute. How many months have you been married? And it's like months? You put a picture for every year, and it's like we've known each other since like 2008, maybe 2009. Then, like started our like dating in 2010. I look at pictures of us from 2010 as a couple. I'm like, oh, my gosh, we've grown so much just like, you know, like physically, but even just relationally and spiritually, and like it's crazy looking back, and so thankful for so many years of friendship with him, but you know, relationship-wise, it's been great. Dan Mathews: (8:30 - 8:52) Well, and I feel like doing life together is a great model before ever like the romantic side comes in. You get to know the person in group settings. You get to know who they are without the interest, because people can put on a different face once you're trying to impress somebody, you know, but we were just being our genuine selves around each other for a long time. Sam Mathews: (8:52 - 8:59) Probably saw some stupid moments, some hard moments, but that's, yeah, that's what you want to see before you get into a relationship with someone. Laura Dugger: (9:00 - 9:12) Absolutely. Yeah. And as we're starting back that far, then when you reflect back, what are some of the adventures that you're most grateful you've said yes to in life? Sam Mathews: (9:13 - 10:38) Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I feel like dating, we weren't even dating at this point, the canoe trip when you did a master's commission, and that was so fun. It was like all of his friends, my sister, all the master's commission group went kayaking, and I decided to tag along as a sibling, and his brother did, and maybe a couple others. And that was fun, but it also gave me an opening into how Dan adventures, because his way of adventuring is way different than mine. I grew up, like I said, with a mom. We would camp at a cabin, and you'd pack the car full of everything you need. Dan would literally just put everything in a backpack and hike in two miles to go camping. And so being in that group, going kayaking, it was so fun, and it sparked this new love for adventure and new desire to learn a new way of adventuring. That was so fun. I mean, that was before we were married, but this is kind of jumping far ahead, but when we were married, we moved to Colorado for a couple of years, and although it was a hard season for us, we learned so much. We gained so much from it. A lot was birthed in us in that season. I mean, physically, I welcomed my daughter. We welcomed our second child in Colorado, but spiritually, I think God planted a lot of seeds that it may not have been a tangible adventure of being out in the woods, but spiritually, we were in the woods, and we grew so much, and I'm glad we said yes to it because it opened the door and led to so many other things. Dan Mathews: (10:38 - 12:31) Yeah, I feel like a lot of our adventures, some are traditional. I mean, a big adventure for me was leaving home. I mean, I moved straight out of my parents' house to a different state, and that was totally crazy for me. But then watching Sam, I mean, she moved out to California for a summer, went to a ministry out there. Then I saw her go to Colorado and Nanny for a couple, all summer long, and so I was like watching this, and we were talking, and I realized, like, we're both all in on an adventurous life, and even when we don't have the answers, it's like, is the Lord telling you not to do it? No? Okay, well, then we'll see what happens, and I thought that was really cool to watch her just like, oh, I'm going to California for a summer, and at first, I was like, please don't. I don't want you to come all the way to California, but then I was like, that's going to be so incredible. Like, you're just leaving everything behind and starting over for a whole summer in a different state, and so that was like the early dating years where we were kind of doing our own adventures, but we were watching and encouraging each other in doing them, and then we started actually going out and camping and floating rivers and hiking up waterfalls, and if you've never camped in the backcountry with someone, I suggest doing it. It's a great metric for if there's someone you want to marry. Like, if you can figure out canoeing and camping, you're probably going to be okay in marriage. That's good. And so, yeah, we started doing that stuff, and then from there, it was just like one after the next, going to Alaska, camping in grizzly country by ourselves, and it's our first time there. Like, we've done some pretty wild things, some pretty traditional things, but at the end of the day, all of the adventures are what brought us together. Laura Dugger: (12:32 - 12:45) Well, and just thinking of the adventure that drew you together, and then also your current platforms on socials and vlogging and preserving all of these pictures, like you said, you've captured all the pictures throughout the time. Sam Mathews: (12:45 - 12:45) Yes. Laura Dugger: (12:47 - 12:58) When you look back, do you feel like God had given you little seeds of what was yet to come or what kind of career you would be in someday, or was this totally a shock to both of you? Sam Mathews: (12:59 - 13:57) You know what? Looking back at pictures or even videos that I took, I could see how it was something that the Lord was birthing in us, and I would say probably me so more than Dan. I think Dan's like, whatever you want to do, I'm along for the ride type of thing. It probably wasn't his first choice as a career, but now that we're in it, we love it and we're thankful for the blessing it is to our family and the time that we get to spend with the kiddos. But I look back and I started videoing and taking pictures like years before even starting on social media, and then even the first few months in the year of sharing, it was like I didn't know what I was doing, but I still wanted to just share life and encourage people and love on people and inspire people. And yeah, it's crazy to look back on, but I also see the work the Lord was doing to get it all started before we even thought about it and knew that it would be something that we'd be doing. Dan Mathews: (13:57 - 16:00) Yeah, and I feel like with Sam, she gets promptings from the Lord that she doesn't know what it is. She doesn't know what it means. And early on, I think the very first one, she's like, babe, I just have this feeling like a big change is coming. And I'm like, anymore? Like, do you have any more information for me? That's not a whole lot to go off of. And I mean, in the conversation, I was like, okay, we'll see. Then I just forgot about it. And I mean, it was like the next day. There was an issue at work, just a very immoral thing that they were asking us to do as employees. And I was like, no, I can't be part of this. And I called her right after, and I was like, babe, I think this might be it. Like I'm going to resign tomorrow. And we talked and prayed, and I only had like a five-minute car ride home. We talked, prayed, got off the phone, and immediately I get a call from my buddy. And he's like, “Hey, dude, don't know what you're doing for work right now, but I've got a job for you if you want to come work at this place I'm at.” And I was like, “Oh, my gosh.” So then two years later, the same thing happened. She's like, I feel like a change is coming. Boom, big change. Two years later, I feel like a change is coming. All of a sudden, we're in a car moving out to Colorado. And it was just like that cycle. And so now when she's like, hey, there's a change coming, I'm like, oh, my gosh. I got to pack my bags. Something big's happening. I know something major is happening. And so, I don't know that early on either of us expected us to be where we are today. But we knew that we wanted to prioritize time together. We wanted to prioritize time with our kids and above all of it, time with the Lord. And if we could get those three in the right order, it didn't really matter where we were. It didn't matter what state we were in. If we were living in a bumper pole camper, an RV, a tiny home, or a regular sized house, we just knew that we had to prioritize those things, and everything was going to work out. Laura Dugger: (16:01 - 18:03) Truly. And that's the promise from Matthew 6:33, that you're really living that out. And now a brief message from our sponsor. Sam Leman Chevrolet Eureka has been owned and operated by the Burchie family for over 25 years. A lot has changed in the car business since Sam and Stephen's grandfather, Sam Leman, opened his first Chevrolet dealership over 55 years ago. 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We know the outcome. We know what's going to be required of us. We know how we're going to get there, how we're going to pay for it. And it was something we didn't desire. We liked being in a position where we needed the Lord. We're reliant upon Him. And so, you know, we talk often in the book about being comfortable. And I feel like when you're in a comfortable setting in life, it's safe. There's no risk involved. There's little to no trust in the Lord. I say that, you know, there's more to the story of that. But that you don't want to be at a place where you don't need God, where you don't need to rely on Him. And so, for us, we just encourage people that if you do find yourself in a comfortable place, to maybe step out of your comfort zone a little bit. To what's an area where you need to trust the Lord more? Is it finding that new job that you've been waiting for, that you've been hoping for? Is it moving to the state that's closer by your family or closer by your friends that you really desire but you're scared too? To not just be comfortable and stay for the sake of not being fearful or not, like knowing what's next, but instead step out, trust the Lord, you know, as long as you have peace and as long as you feel that yes from Him. And just lay fear aside and move forward with the Lord. Dan Mathews: (19:50 - 21:54) Yeah, with every big decision that we make, we're led by peace. And we've said it for years. If either one of us don't have peace about it, we're not doing it. But when there are multiple doors open, we say we're going to choose the most adventurous one. If we don't feel a specific direction from the Lord, let's just pick the most adventurous one. And it's kind of become common practice for us to not have really many of the details planned out on a major decision on a trip. And people are like, do you have any idea of what you're going to do when you move there? Or how long you're going to be traveling the country in an RV? And we're like, nope, we'll figure it out. I joke with my buddies all the time because they're like, “I mean, how do you know everything's going to be okay? How do you know this?” I go, well, between me and God, we've got everything figured out. And they're like, “Oh, okay, I get it.” I'm like, “well, the Lord has everything figured out, but I can throw myself in that team, you know?” And I feel like it's been an encouragement to some of our friends as they watch it. And they're like, whoa, you guys did it. I'll talk about it for years. And even when we moved out to Colorado, in our minds, we were going to move out there. All of our friend group was like, one person needs to move. And then everybody else is going to slowly follow out. Well, we end up moving out there. And I'm like shooting my buddies messages like, “All right, when are you coming out? And one by one, it was like, “No, I don't think we're coming.” No, it's not going to be for at least five years. It's going to be, you know, maybe when the kids graduate, all of these different responses. And I'm like, man, that was one of the biggest things that we missed when we were out there. But we knew that moving to Colorado, taking a pay cut, paying more in rent, like all of those things were a stepping stone to get us to where we were today, to trusting the Lord and starting our first business together, trusting the Lord with our finances, with our time. And really putting us in a position where we were fully dependent on him for our survival. Sam Mathews: (21:54 - 22:40) And so even if something doesn't work out, we mentioned a couple of stories in the book where we may have moved forward without peace, and it did not end well. But the Lord always brings it around and teaches us something from it or a situation where we felt the peace to move to Colorado, but we were only there for two years. It was hard on us financially. We got into debt. We had no friends, no family out there. It was a hard season. We still gained from it. So instead of looking at something as a complete loss, we still look to find the good. You know, what did the Lord birth in us? You know, like Dean said, spiritually, we grew together. Financially, we started a business. Like so much good came from it that even though it maybe on paper or to others, it didn't make sense. It was still good. And something that the Lord, yeah, started for us. Laura Dugger: (22:41 - 23:05) And you've learned those lessons and now you get to share them with others. Even super practical with this one. Our family has never done the RV thing before, but even just dipping our toes in and trying a vacation that way. What tips do you have for families, maybe who aren't traveling around, living out of their RV, but vacationing with one, what are some of your best tips? Sam Mathews: (23:05 - 24:27) I just saw a video of someone sharing the other day where they took their family of, let's see, four, six total on an RV for the first time. And I was like, oh no, because the first warning I give to everyone is you have to drain your poop through the hose. If you're out on that, RV life is not for you. RV vacation is not for you. Do you have to get down and dirty and take care of a few things? There's a lot more maintenance that comes with RV vacationing or RV life. And I usually have the dirty work for Dan to do and I'm inside cooking, cleaning. But an RV has all your basic needs. You can still go to the bathroom, you can still shower, there's a toilet, there's a bed. It's just on a lot smaller scale. And if you're not good with being in close proximity with all your children or your spouse, then you may just need a little bit of a bigger space to stay in. But it's fun because you get to navigate it together and you get to learn just a new way of life or new way of traveling. And yeah, the maintenance of the restroom, you have to have water hookups, or you need solar for electric or you have to be hooked up to electric. The great part is you can go anywhere, and you can get right up close to some great adventures. Our favorite spot to park an RV is the rim of the Badlands. It's so pretty. Is it the North Rim? Dan Mathews: (24:28 - 24:28) Yeah. Sam Mathews: (24:28 - 24:54) It's gorgeous. You wake up to the sun rising over it and it's the most peaceful thing to be right there next to it. And you can't do that with a cabin in the woods. But the benefit to a cabin in the woods is that's its own adventure. And so just do a little bit of research on the maintenance required for setting up, tearing down the RV in order to get on the road and to like park it and set up. Dan Mathews: (24:55 - 26:44) I like how you weave some of the worst parts about our RV life in there. But I will say being on the road, traveling and like just kind of deciding on the way is one of the greatest things ever. I did not, like we definitely had a plan. It was like, “Hey, we're gonna stop one time.” Growing up, we've got five kids. So, it was like, we're stopping one time to go to the bathroom. If you have to go, you're just gonna have to hold it type of thing. We were fairly structured in the traveling to a place. But being in an RV, it really opens up so much to where you can on the way be like, oh, I just saw a billboard. I wonder what that is. Look it up. How far away is it? Hey, what if we take a 45-minute detour and go check this out? Like we found places in the middle of Kansas that 1% of the population knows about. We camped. There's spots that you can camp on the rim of the Grand Canyon. Like no guardrail, back your vehicle right up, walk out the door, sit there, have coffee or whatever in the morning. And that was like our favorite part about it. There were nights that we would drive until like one in the morning. And we might be sleeping in a truck stop. But we were on the way to Glacier National Park or to the Oregon coast or wherever. And so, I feel like ditching the schedule and just kind of figuring it out as you go is one of the most freeing things on a vacation. And the other nice part about it is if you find a place that you absolutely love and you're like, we want to spend four days here, do it. You don't have a new reservation somewhere else that you have to get to. You can just go wherever the wind blows, have fun with the family. And yeah, I think everybody needs to do it at least one time. Laura Dugger: (26:44 - 27:02) Oh yeah, for sure. What a great challenge to step outside our comfort zone like you said. Well, one other amazing adventure that you've embarked on together is becoming a surrogate twice, I believe. Will you tell us a little bit more about that process and that experience? Sam Mathews: (27:03 - 31:10) Yeah, definitely. So, in 2018, we had our daughter and she was a little bit more work than our first. So, our first was super easy. Ate well, slept well, like barely cried. And our daughter, maybe it was just her being a girl. A little bit more needy and required some extra grace and some more prayer for patience on my part. But at that point, I was like, yeah, I think I'm done. Having children of our own and parenting our own children because even raising two kids is going to be a task. But I didn't feel like I was done carrying children. And I'm like, I still want to have babies, but I don't want to have more to parent. How do I do that? But I felt like the Lord just laid surrogacy in my heart. And I started thinking about it, praying about it, researching it. And I brought it up to Dan like, hey, what would you think about me doing this? And I had to educate him a little bit on like what being a surrogate was. As a gestational surrogate, I wasn't carrying an embryo with an egg that was mine. So, I'm not biologically related to the baby. And after some prayer, we both felt at peace about it. And so, we walked through that door and started the process of meeting a couple or going through an agency to start a journey. And yeah, we've done two now. So, in 2022, I delivered a baby boy for a couple. And then in 2024, so just last year, I've just actually in a few days, I'm going to hit my year mark of my second belly bud being one and a little girl for a couple. And it was like the most, one of the greatest adventures I've been on. And I've gained so much from it. And it's so rewarding to see someone who desires to be a parent, to be a mom, but physically can't. To see them walk that road and just step into the role that like watching her become a mom is like, you can tell that's what she was meant to be. That's what the Lord had for her. And it's so fun seeing the joy of their family and watching her grow up and like being a part of her life. That, yeah, like we just encourage other people, if you're able to do something like that, or no matter what it is, it's not just surrogacy, but if God's calling you to something that may require a lot more from you or something that is not normal, it's not traditional, you don't see it a lot, like just step out and do it. And yeah, it's been fun. It definitely grouped Dan and I closer together. Spiritually, he was there for me in times of emotional hardship. Pregnancy in itself is hard, but to do it multiple times, you know, this is my fifth pregnancy now. There's a lot of roles that he takes on to care for the kids more, to care for me more. And we've grown closer and just his love for me, seeing it that even though it's not our baby, like he's still caring for me and taking care of me as if it was. And the Lord, I've had to rely on the Lord so many times because pregnancy and birthing in itself is a miracle. To go through moments of transfer, like the embryo doesn't always take the first time on a transfer or your levels are off or maybe one of the ultrasounds is, you know, something doesn't look good on it. We're constantly relying on the Lord and it gives us an opportunity to share with intended parents, you know, someone who didn't have hope, didn't have anything to look forward to for parenting their own children, to just like be an encouragement to them spiritually and then share these journeys with others publicly has been a great way just to share our faith and to share how going through a surrogacy journey caused us to rely on the Lord and, you know, point everything back to Christ and, you know, God being just very pro-life and we're excited to bring this life into the world. And so, yeah, definitely a big adventure to embark on to bring two babies into the world that aren't ours, but one of like the greatest things I've ever done. It's awesome. Laura Dugger: (31:11 - 31:25) It's a beautiful sacrifice and I'm sure others are also wondering at that moment when you meet the baby that you've been carrying, how did you handle those emotions of sharing the baby? Sam Mathews: (31:25 - 33:42) Yes. Yeah, definitely. So, when you go into surrogacy, you know, from the beginning that it's not your child, especially as a gestational carrier, not related to it. Throughout the pregnancy, all these milestones that you hit, you're excited for it, but you're excited for it for the parents. So, finding out, you know, there's a heartbeat and seeing the baby for the first time on ultrasound, you're excited for them. Finding out the gender, you're excited for them. You know, delivering the baby, you're excited for them that you do a lot of mental prep, but there's also like a lot of research that shows to like plan something after delivery for your family to do, something for you to do with your kids so that when you do leave the hospital, you don't think about what you don't have anymore. You think about what you do have at your house with your family. And so, it may seem hard. I think a lot of times people compare it to adoption where the birth mom is literally giving up her child to somebody else and the hardship that that would cause on her as a surrogate. And I can only speak for myself because I'm sure there are times where it is hard for a surrogate. But for me, it wasn't because I did a lot of mental preparing, emotionally preparing that I knowing that this child wasn't mine going into it. I knew that at the end of it, I would deliver the baby and the baby would be taken from me and I'm not raising this child. And a lot of times you don't even touch a baby until like maybe you're discharged to see the baby before you leave. So, it's not like I'm delivering the baby. The baby's being given to me and I'm holding and I'm bonding with it. And then it's being taken away. It's no, this is from the moment it comes out of the womb. It is their baby and it's in their care. And again, seeing their face, their joy, the moment where like they're seeing their child for the first time is so rewarding. And that's something that I would never want to take from them. It was never my role to be this baby's mother. It was to just carry their baby and to bring their baby into the world. And so, it's not as hard as you think, thankfully. I mean, I wouldn't have done it a second time for sure if it was. And we're praying about a third one. But it's so rewarding. And yeah, you know from the beginning that it's not yours. So, it's easy to, in a sense, pass the baby off. Laura Dugger: (33:43 - 34:56) Well, that's a story that really encapsulates stewardship. I think that's a great example. Did you know you could receive a free email with monthly encouragement, practical tips, and plenty of questions to ask to take your conversation a level deeper, whether that's in parenting or on date nights? Make sure you access all of this at thesavvysauce.com by clicking the button that says join our email list so that you can follow the prompts and begin receiving these emails at the beginning of each month. Enjoy. For both of you, your lives are just fascinating mostly because you're living this life of faith and sacrifice. So, it's compelling to get to hear how you're actually doing that. But then I love how you call out that you don't recommend people go to the other extreme and become reckless and chase adventure. You discern between choosing adventure and chasing adventure. So, I'm wondering if you can give us any of your definitions or parameters around what choosing adventure does and does not look like for you. Dan Mathews: (34:57 - 38:00) Yeah, I think that choosing adventure for us is looking at opportunities where we can spend as a family, where we can get outside of our comfort zones and just really put it in the Lord's hands. Have fun along the way, you know, whether it's ziplining or jumping off a cliff, like a lot of people think adventure has to be this grand thing and super dangerous. And for us, it isn't really. Like there's been a couple of times where we've been like, this got crazy quickly. Maybe we could have planned it out a little bit better. But at the end of the day, it all worked out. And so, when we talk about people choosing instead of chasing or not being reckless, it's all about like, do something new, do something fun, do something that puts you outside of your comfort zone, but isn't going to put you in a bad position. I'm not the guy that's like, you know what? Never swam across Lake Michigan. I'm going to give it a go, see how it happens, and see what happens. If that's the case, it's like maybe start out with a triathlon and see what you're going to do and work your way up. And so, I don't ever want anyone to take the book or take the things that we say or the adventures that we've had in life and think I'm going to do something absolutely crazy that doesn't make sense. That's not logical. That's not safe. Like, that's not what this is about. It's about just getting outside of your comfort zone. And the more you're outside of it, the more comfortable you become with being uncomfortable. And I tell people, like on some of my backcountry hunts, I want to be comfortable in suffering. Like when I'm really, really struggling physically to climb up a mountain with a 70-pound pack on my back, I want to be like, I know I'm making it out of this. It's not fun in the moment. Like it hurts. My legs are burning. My back hurts. I feel like I need a break, but I'm going to keep pushing through. And when I look back on that, I'm going to go, that was brutal and awesome. And I loved every second of it. And I feel like that's how, how we view our trips, our road trips. I mean, driving, what was it? Thirty something thousand miles in a couple months and visiting dozens and dozens of states. It was like, there were times where it was like, I don't want to be on the road anymore. The wind is literally about to tip the RV over. I'm almost taking out construction cones or running into things because I had never driven an RV before. And the very first place we go is Wisconsin. And we drive right past Chicago and there's like construction for a hundred miles. And so it's like all of those things, they were fun. Yeah, they were scary in the moment we got through, we were never in any real danger. And so, yeah, I feel like it's a stair step when it comes to adventure. I didn't start out just wandering around Alaska by myself. It started with going down to Arkansas, being five miles away from the vehicle and then kind of built from there. Sam Mathews: (38:00 - 39:50) Yeah, to not be reckless, like to, you know, we talked about this earlier to move forward when you have peace. And just because you have peace with it, someone else may not understand it. But with peace, like there's wisdom too. You don't want to move forward with a lack of peace and not using wisdom in a decision because yeah, that will get you in trouble and that will cause hardship and pain later down the road. But if you have peace about something and there is that open door and you feel the release from the Lord to go on this adventure, then do it. And even though if it doesn't work out, you know, God will still work everything out. But yeah, like Dan said, when you, the more you do things that are outside your comfort zone or that, you know, even others may not agree with, but you feel at peace with and you're moving forward, the easier it becomes to do those. And the more you would trust the Lord. And like you said, again, it doesn't have to be some grand adventure. We encourage people that if they're new to choosing adventure and they're new to stepping outside their comfort zone, try like a new restaurant one day, go to like a new, I was thinking the other day, we live in Missouri and we always travel outside of Missouri for adventure. I'm like, we need to do a six-month adventure just within Missouri. Like we drove two hours South and through Missouri to go to Georgia last week. And we were driving down this hill on one of the roads. I'm like, this looks like, it looked like Georgia already, or it looked like Colorado, the hillside and the trees and the fog, I'm like, this is beautiful. And I look down, I'm like, oh, we're still in Missouri. So, there's so much to adventure and to explore in your own backyard or down your street that it doesn't have to be something crazy wild. We're not saying go, you know, jump out of a plane and skydive or something, but just start small, start where you have peace and where you feel the Lord's leading. Laura Dugger: (39:52 - 40:26) That's great. I love having a handful of practical things. I think of my brother, Drew and his wife, Amanda, when their kids were really little, they just drew a two hour radius to see what places would be fun to go invest and explore. Or for us, I would say one of our most recent adventures, we didn't know what it would look like on the other side, but it's become one of our favorite things in life and probably our best decision in parenting for us as we started homeschooling our kids last year. And it has been a wild adventure. Sam Mathews: (40:26 - 40:27) That's an adventure. Laura Dugger: (40:28 - 40:36) So, any other tips to get people started? Those are even trying the new restaurant. Yeah. Anything else like that that you would say? Dan Mathews: (40:37 - 42:13) The nice thing is that we all have this supercomputer in our hand or in our pocket all the time. And there are so many lists of like the top 10 places to see, places to eat. There's books that are just like places to canoe before you dive, places to hike before you dive, and they have all of this stuff listed out. And so, it's not that you have to be a pioneer and find a new place that nobody's ever been before. Look at the research that people have done before you and look at lists, get on Pinterest or any social media platform and try to just figure out what are practical things that you can do. And then you can also say, how difficult is this going to be for me? Do I really need to jump that far into it right now? Or should I just go to a local park that might have a cool cave that I can explore? Or maybe there's a creek near the house and like, what if we just go down there and see if we can find fish or crawdads or try to skip rocks? My kids, that is one of their favorite things. I'm like, I love doing it as a kid. I didn't realize how exciting just the act of watching a rock skip on the water would be for kids. And so there's, yeah, there's a million different resources online for things that you can practically do close to home. And it might, for some people, just be trying that DIY project instead of calling a carpenter to put yourself up, you know, or a handyman. Like, give it a try. The worst that's going to happen, you have a hole in your wall. Now you watch a video on how to patch it. Laura Dugger: (42:14 - 42:37) That's so good. And I'm seeing a theme. A lot of these are getting outdoors and nature. That's always an adventure. But then I'm even thinking simple things in conversation, trying out a new question, even with a loved one. Or you said at the beginning that you love hospitality. So inviting somebody new into your home. I think any of that novelty is just really good for us. Yeah, definitely. Dan Mathews: (42:38 - 44:32) Yeah, I think even making it a point in conversation when somebody asks you how your day is, instead of just saying good and continuing on, actually stop and talk to them. Because a lot of people, their biggest fear might not be going on a road trip, might not be financial ruin. It might just be opening up and being vulnerable with another person. And so it could be the person at the office that you've never actually had a conversation with. You know each other. You might wave when you walk by their desk. But actually talk to them. Get to know them. Tell them about yourself. And so the book has a lot of those types of things lined out where it's like it might not be physical. It might not be out in nature. It might be within your home. It might be, I mean, some people need to do this with their kids. Like that might be the scariest thing is talking to your teenager. Like actually having a conversation. And we're going to sit down and we're going to have a meal together and actually talk as a family. And so, yeah, it looks different for everybody. And that's one thing, because our passion is being outside. Like Sam wants a houseboat. She wants to buy a houseboat and renovate it and live in it for a certain amount of time. And we've had other people who a bunch of homeschool families bought sailboats and sailed all around the world as they were homeschooling their kids. And I heard that and I was like, yeah, yeah, we're going to have to do that at some point. But I know for a lot of people, just going outside is a big deal. And so it looks different for everybody. We do give a lot of nature examples, but there's different ways for every type of person, every level of. What would you even call it? Social. There's a lot of different levels to the social scale. And so no matter where you are, there's something for you to be a little bit more adventurous. Laura Dugger: (44:34 - 44:42) OK, so like I said, you've made a compelling argument for getting outside of our comfort zone. Why do you think some of us resist this attractive lifestyle? Sam Mathews: (44:43 - 46:46) Yeah, I think there's fear in it. There's sadly nowadays, you know, what will other people think of me? What will what if we fail? What if we lose money? What if we what if I look a certain way that I don't want to appear to others? And that's where you just have to think back to Christ. Like what is it? What really matters at the end of the day? It's how God views you. And if you fail, oh, well, what if the Lord like just opens up so many doors and creates an avenue for you to get out? Or what if so much good comes from it that we can't be afraid of failure? Again, move forward cautiously with wisdom and with the Lord's peace and direction. But in our book, we share one of our biggest adventures was going out to Colorado and renovating a van for five days. And we broke down on the side of the road, something no one wants to do in the desert, in the middle of twice. We did twice. We broke down in the middle of Kansas and then in Colorado again. And it was we'll be honest, it was not fun. It was one of like the scariest times. But looking back, like we're so thankful we did because so much good came from it. Like we met some amazing people who helped us along the way. And it's now one of our favorite stories to tell of encouragement that just because you say yes to adventure and just because something bad happens, it's not all a waste. And I think, yeah, that fear just keeps people from being able to move forward and being like, you know what? Like I'm comfortable right here in my house, my kids in public school, not going anywhere because I know where my money's coming. I know like what's happening tomorrow. I know how people are going to respond. And I'm just going to like stay here. Not that that's a bad thing, because the Lord needs people in every season in every situation. But if he's prompting you to step out and to try something new, like don't be afraid of what's required from you or what could happen. You never know like where it could lead. Dan Mathews: (46:47 - 48:10) Yeah, I think a lot of it is those few things, fear, pride, or just you believing that God isn't big enough or doesn't care about your situation. And unfortunately, a lot of people are there where I really want to try this, but like what if things go wrong? And for us, it's like when things go wrong, that's where the Lord provides. That's where the Lord directs. That's where he leads. That's where his word can be the lamp to your feet and a light to your path. When you're trying to do it all on your own and you're staying in this safety net of comfort, nothing amazing happens in that place. And so, we've seen it time and time again, the Lord's provision, the Lord's provision in our lives and not only the provision financially, but actually like setting us free from constraints like social constraints of like you have to work nine to five. We heard that over and over and over. And I'm like, well, the nice thing is Sam and I are both hard workers and super driven, and I'm sure we could get jobs again. Yeah, so like worst case scenario, we run completely out of money and we go back to go back to work. And I'm like, what does failure actually look like? And I try to get people to break it down for me. People who are like, I'm glad that worked for you, but that couldn't work for us. And I go, why? Sam Mathews: (48:10 - 48:10) Yeah. Dan Mathews: (48:11 - 48:20) Like, why couldn't it work for you? And they're like, well, I like what happens if it doesn't work out? And I'm like, let's expand on that as far out as we can think. Sam Mathews: (48:20 - 48:21) Even the worst. Dan Mathews: (48:21 - 48:24) Like, does that work? Like, are you going to die? No. Sam Mathews: (48:24 - 48:24) Yeah. Dan Mathews: (48:24 - 49:02) Like, no, you'll probably just come back home if it doesn't work out, you know? And so, trying to trying to show people that because the fear of the unknown is pretty significant to people. Something completely new to them that they've never tried it's really challenging to get people to take that first step. But once they do, the second step is easier. The third step is easier. And pretty soon you're jumping and sprinting and you're like, whoa, this whole life is out here that I didn't even know existed. So yeah, I definitely think it's those three, though. Laura Dugger: (49:03 - 50:59) That's good. And it makes me think that typically the way that we grow our faith is action. We put our faith into action and God gives us with more faith when we're faithful with the little faith that we have. And it also makes me think back, I believe it was episode 82, 82. Traveling With Your Family With Teacher, Wife, and Mother to 4,, with the guest, Katie Mueller. I'm going to link to it. I think you guys would love it where she parallels what God called people to do throughout the Bible with travel, what that looks like today, practical, fun things. But Sam, something that you said reminded me of this when you're like, “Well, if nothing else, it's going to be a great story.” And she referred to that, like when things went wrong growing up on their travels, they laughed so hard about those memories. And in their family, they tragically lost their dad very unexpectedly. Actually, her mom, I'll link to Joyce Hodel's episode as well. She shares that story. But their family has all of these stories and all of these memories from choosing adventure. So that makes me start to think of marriage and family. And as we put that together with adventure, you guys always make adventure feel approachable, even in parenting. And I'm thinking on page 15, you wrote that as a kid, anytime you get to drive cross country, stay at a hotel or eat at a restaurant, it's an adventure for no reason other than it's a break from the norm, right? And you know what? That's the whole point. Choosing adventure is about stepping out of your comfort zone and trying something new. There's no right or wrong way to do it. So, with that in mind, Dan and Sam, how can we begin to enjoy this adventurous life in marriage and in family? Sam Mathews: (51:00 - 51:49) Yeah. Bringing your kids along is such a fun, it requires a little bit more packing, but such a fun aspect to adventure. And going on date nights with your spouse, trying something new, experiencing it together, finding something you enjoy together, but realizing that it can also, there's another level of fun to have your kids along with. And sometimes we'll drive 30 minutes away and stay at a hotel for a night just because it's a new place to go and the kids love it. And it doesn't have to be expensive. They go putt-putt and that for them is the greatest thing. If you end it with ice cream, it's even better than the cherry on top, that it's just something fun for them. But yeah, realizing that it can be a family thing, but it could just be you as a couple too. But yeah. Dan Mathews: (51:50 - 54:56) Well, and for kids, there's so much adventure to be had right at home or right in your backyard. I bought, I went to Walmart one day and I bought two extra large king-size sheets just so that we could do forts. I was like, I'm gonna put these in the closet and now I've got like the alligator clips and so I can clip them to different things. And when it's a rainy day and the kids are bored and we're stuck inside, it's just a break from the norm. And then they'll be like, mom, dad, come see what we did. And they might build like a little shop where they sell us stuff inside of their fort. Or they might make beds for us and for the stuffed animals and for our dog and all of these different things. And so, breaking out of the norm is just what adventure is. Like if they're not used to that, if they're not used to that time together, like some days it's, we're gonna go jump on the trampoline and they're like, wait, both of you at once? Normally one of us is getting stuff done and the other one's hanging out with them. And when all of a sudden it's like both of us unexpectedly are walking to the trampoline, they're like, oh, family trampoline jump. If you need really good ideas for adventure and you're a parent, just watch Bluey. If you haven't seen Bluey, that dad is awesome. And like we used to do the claw game. I would put all of their stuffed animals in my lap. My thumb was the joystick and then my other hand was the claw and they had to move it and I would pick up the stuffed animals. And to them, it was the greatest thing they'd ever done. And we saw it on a cartoon. And so, incorporating family into it, I feel like it's just, it's really easy. And aside from excuses, there's no reason not to get the kids involved in it. Also, there's a million books about getting kids outside. And so, like checklists that they can do. Every national park, if for those that don't know or haven't visited national parks, I didn't know this because we didn't go to any national parks growing up, but your kids can become a junior ranger. They get these booklets and they get badges of the individual parks and they have to learn about nature and about the animals that are there and about the history. And so that became a thing for the kids. Every place we went, it was like, “Oh, I need a junior ranger badge.” And I mean, they had wooden badges just lining their chest. Like they were some war hero and they absolutely loved it. And so there's things like that locally in nature parks and stuff. But doing it together. I mean, that's what it's all about. For me, I watched the guys on TV and I'm like, that guy just went to New Zealand by himself or like watching alone. I'm like, I don't want to do that. It would be pretty crazy, I feel like. I think everybody needs some type of alone time here and there. But for me, I want to share this stuff with my wife, with my kids, with my buddies. And so, yeah, that's what it's all about. Sam Mathews: (54:56 - 55:07) Yeah, like you said, have those stories to tell with your family, of your family members. That way, if something does happen and they pass, you have so much to look back on of the memories you're able to share together. Laura Dugger: (55:09 - 55:15) Absolutely. And to bring those up and share them with our kids while we are together. They love hearing stories about when they were little. Sam Mathews: (55:16 - 55:16) Oh, yeah. Laura Dugger: (55:17 - 55:29) And you guys have taken it a step further where you document it then and preserve. So if we want continued inspiration after this conversation, where can we go to follow you two and your adventures? Sam Mathews: (55:30 - 56:08) Yes, we do. Our kids love watching our travels and stuff. We share along for videos and stuff on YouTube, Facebook. But we share our life on every platform. We are Dan and Sam. Pinterest, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook. And then Dan has his hunting content over at the Nomadic Outdoorsman. And yeah, we share day-to-day life, what that looks like, lifestyle. But then our travels, our adventures, mom life, welcoming a new baby, our surrogacy journeys, whatever life looks like at that time and how we're enjoying it, what God's teaching us, where we're going. And we laugh along the way, the encouragement and try to inspire you to live an adventurous, fun-filled life. Laura Dugger: (56:09 - 56:28) Love it. We'll add links to all of those things in the show notes for today's episode. And you two may already be familiar that we're called The Savvy Sauce because savvy is synonymous with practical knowledge. And so, as my final question for both of you today, what is your savvy sauce? Sam Mathews: (56:31 - 57:15) Ooh, practical knowledge. Let's see. I would say with motherhood, don't think that, I don't know if this would be considered savvy sauce, but it's just a good reminder to myself that as a mom, you may think you're alone in something, you're going through it, and it's just you, but you're not. You are with a community of people who are feeling the same thing that you're walking through, going through the same thing, and just reminding yourself you're not alone because I think it makes the journey a lot easier to know that there's other people walking through the same season, the same hardship, the same joy, the same trials as you. And it makes life a little bit easier when you feel less alone. Dan Mathews: (57:16 - 58:26) I think for me, it would be that your kids are going to be an extreme version of what you are. So, if you're showing fear and decisions, if you're hesitant, if you're not trusting the Lord, that's gonna be compounded in their lives. And they're just a more magnified mirror image of what their parents are. And so, we try to, in everything that we do, go, is this something that's gonna set up our kids for success? And it's not like, oh, we have to have money in the bank for them, you know, for a retirement fund one day or a college fund. I'm talking like everyday lessons. If I put my phone screen in front of my kids, they're gonna do that more and more and more. If I prioritize things that aren't meant to be prioritized over my wife, they're gonna see that. And so, we try to be very, very clear about what our priorities are. We try to live intentionally, showing them the right way to do things and being an example to them. And so, yeah, that'd be my savvy sauce. Laura Dugger: (58:27 - 58:49) I love it. You two are so full of integrity and you definitely shine the love and the light of Jesus brightly by the way that you live. So, I know I'm leaving this conversation feeling very inspired to choose adventure. And I just wanna say thank you for being my guest today. Sam Mathews: Thank you so much for having us. It was a joy. Dan Mathews: (58:49 - 58:50) It was a blast. Laura Dugger: (58:52 - 1:02:06) One more thing before you go. Have you heard the term gospel before? It simply means good news. And I want to share the best news with you. But it starts with the bad news. Every single one of us were born sinners, but Christ desires to rescue us from our sin, which is something we cannot do for ourselves. This means there is absolutely no chance we can make it to heaven on our own. So, for you and for me, it means we deserve death, and we can never pay back the sacrifice we owe to be saved. We need a savior. But God loved us so much, he made a way for his only son to willingly die in our place as the perfect substitute. This gives us hope of life forever in right relationship with him. That is good news. Jesus lived the perfect life we could never live and died in our place for our sin. This was God's plan to make a way to reconcile with us so that God can look at us and see Jesus. We can be covered and justified through the work Jesus finished if we choose to receive what He has done for us. Romans 10:9 says, “That if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” So, would you pray with me now? Heavenly Father, thank you for sending Jesus to take our place. I pray someone today right now is touched and chooses to turn their life over to you. Will you clearly guide them and help them take their next step in faith to declare you as Lord of their life? We trust you to work and change lives now for eternity. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. If you prayed that prayer, you are declaring him for me, so me for him. You get the opportunity to live your life for him. And at this podcast, we're called The Savvy Sauce for a reason. We want to give you practical tools to implement the knowledge you have learned. So, you ready to get started? First, tell someone. Say it out loud. Get a Bible. The first day I made this decision, my parents
Shelter from the StormBob Dylan'Twas in another lifetime, one of toil and bloodWhen blackness was a virtue, the road was full of mudI came in from the wilderness, a creature void of form“Come in,” she said, “I'll give you shelter from the storm”And if I pass this way again, you can rest assuredI'll always do my best for her, on that I give my wordIn a world of steel-eyed death, and men who are fighting to be warm“Come in,” she said, “I'll give you shelter from the storm”Not a word was spoke between us, there was little risk involvedEverything up to that point had been left unresolvedTry imagining a place where it's always safe and warm“Come in,” she said, “I'll give you shelter from the storm”I was burned out from exhaustion, buried in the hailPoisoned in the bushes an' blown out on the trailHunted like a crocodile, ravaged in the corn“Come in,” she said, “I'll give you shelter from the storm”Suddenly I turned around and she was standin' thereWith silver bracelets on her wrists and flowers in her hairShe walked up to me so gracefully and took my crown of thorns“Come in,” she said, “I'll give you shelter from the storm”Now there's a wall between us, somethin' there's been lostI took too much for granted, I got my signals crossedJust to think that it all began on an uneventful morn“Come in,” she said, “I'll give you shelter from the storm”Well, the deputy walks on hard nails and the preacher rides a mountBut nothing really matters much, it's doom alone that countsAnd the one-eyed undertaker, he blows a futile horn“Come in,” she said, “I'll give you shelter from the storm”I've heard newborn babies wailin' like a mournin' doveAnd old men with broken teeth stranded without loveDo I understand your question, man, is it hopeless and forlorn?“Come in,” she said, “I'll give you shelter from the storm”In a little hilltop village, they gambled for my clothesI bargained for salvation an' she gave me a lethal doseI offered up my innocence and got repaid with scorn“Come in,” she said, “I'll give you shelter from the storm”Well, I'm livin' in a foreign country but I'm bound to cross the lineBeauty walks a razor's edge, someday I'll make it mineIf I could only turn back the clock to when God and her were born“Come in,” she said, “I'll give you shelter from the storm”
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