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Sometimes it's not your tactics holding you back, it's the story you keep selling yourself. The wrong mindset can make even the best strategy fail. Mike Arce, founder of Loud Rumor and host of The GSD Show, has helped thousands of companies grow by focusing on the psychology behind performance. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, he breaks down how to think, communicate, and lead in a way that makes growth inevitable. Jeremy and Mike talk about why everyone is really buying "better," how fear of change blocks progress, and how to reframe identity, leadership, and environment to unlock consistent growth. They reveal why scaling starts with self-awareness, how to build trust that inspires teams, and what separates people who plateau from those who keep evolving. Whether you're building a business or simply building yourself, this conversation shows exactly how to think like a leader and keep leveling up in every part of life.   Chapters: ⁠(00:00) Introduction ⁠ (12:04) Fear of Change and Why Prospects Hesitate (15:56) Tribal Theory (18:13) Selling The Vision (25:36) Identity Through Stories (31:26) Results vs Constraints (33:01) Sales Maximization (38:14) Think Like Others Not Do Like Others   Connect with Mike Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/mikearcelive/ ⁠ Website: ⁠https://www.loudrumor.com/ ⁠ YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@MikeArceLive⁠   Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: ⁠+1-480-481-6755⁠ Join the 7q.ai waitlist: ⁠https://7q.ai/waitlist⁠ The NEPQ PRIMER Community: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/primer?utm_c⁠ Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers⁠ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales ⁠rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠ Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: ⁠https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more⁠ Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠ Book a Clarity Call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠  

Jay Riding started knocking doors at 16 and never stopped until he'd built one of the largest door-to-door sales teams in America. As founding partner of EcoShield, now the #3 privately-held pest control company in the United States, Jay went from broke college kid to leading 40 locations nationwide. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, Jay reveals how door-to-door sales forged his mindset, his money, and the leadership that built an empire. You'll learn how to master rejection, sell without being pushy, and build real certainty on the doors. Jay and Jeremy break down why culture beats commission, how to turn a summer job into six-figure savings, and the habits that make average reps fearless closers. If you've ever felt stuck, burnt out, or unsure whether sales is worth it,  this episode proves that the right mindset can change everything. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:50) From College Hustle to Pest Control Pro (05:13) Joining Eco shield (08:46) Culture That Keeps Reps Winning (12:32) Residual Income That Pays You to Stay (17:15) How Door-to-Door Builds Mental Toughness (32:08) The Skill Every Salesperson Must Master (37:54) Rapid Fire Questions   Connect with Jay Riding Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayadamsriding Apply for a sales position: https://www.shieldhiring.com Free sign up for wholesale hats: https://www.billestwholesale.com   Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755 Join the 7q.ai waitlist https://7q.ai/waitlist The NEPQ PRIMER Community: https://nepqtraining.com/primer?utm_c Join the 7th Level Sales Team: https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers   The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/   Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminerpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

If your sales, focus, and energy are slipping, your physiology might be holding you back. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner sits down with Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, founder of Muscle-Centric Medicine and author of Forever Strong, to reveal how elite sales performance, mental resilience, and discipline all start with biology. Dr. Lyon shares why top performers can't out-grind their physiology, how to control stress without burnout, and the daily habits that keep energy steady under pressure. Jeremy and Dr. Lyon discuss the science behind neutrality, the mindset that stops emotional crashes, plus simple frameworks for building focus, recovery, and longevity in business. You'll walk away with practical tools to regulate your nervous system, optimize energy, and lead like a true high performer, sharp, calm, and built to last. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:10) Dr. Lyon's Path to Muscle-Centric Medicine (05:58) Neutrality: Ending High-Low Performance Swings (09:30) Training Your Nervous System for Consistency (13:14) Fat Is a Symptom of Unhealthy Muscle (17:20) The Muscle-First Playbook for Sales Focus (22:30) Delayed Gratification & Discipline Drills (27:45) Nutrition for Cognitive Performance (33:50) Strength as a Responsibility

Do you ever look at other property management companies and wonder how they were able to grow and scale to thousands of doors?  In this episode of the #DoorGrowShow, property management growth experts Jason and Sarah Hull share insights they gleaned from successful founders and CEOs of multi-billion-dollar companies. You'll Learn [00:59] Execution is More Important Than Good Ideas [11:51] Narrowing Your Focus to What You're Best At [19:41] Ask Your Target Market [30:33] Everyone Should be Focused on One Goal Quotables “There's no shortage of ideas. It's execution that's the hard part.” “Everyone thinks… if I scale, I've got to do more. And actually, you have to do less to be able to scale…” “A lot of times we get caught up in creating systems, inventory, things that actually cause waste or over-optimizing each individual department or each individual step, but it actually reduces the overall goal of optimizing.” Resources DoorGrow and Scale Mastermind DoorGrow Academy DoorGrow on YouTube DoorGrowClub DoorGrowLive Transcript Jason Hull (00:00) a lot of times we get caught up in creating systems, inventory, things that actually cause waste or over optimizing each individual department but it actually reduces the overall goal of optimizing for making more money.   All right, I'm Jason Hull. This is Sarah Hull, the owners of DoorGrow, the world's leading and most comprehensive coaching and consulting firm for long-term residential property management entrepreneurs. For over a decade and a half, we have brought innovative strategies and optimization to the property management industry. At DoorGrow, we believe that good property managers can change the world and that property management is the ultimate.   high trust gateway to real estate deals, relationships, and residual income. At DoorGrow, we are on a mission to transform property management business owners and their businesses. We want to transform the industry, eliminate the BS, build awareness, change perception, expand the market, and help the best property management entrepreneurs win. Now, let's get into the show. Okay, so we recently kind of split paths, right?   so that you could go learn some stuff and I could go learn some stuff. So we usually do everything together. So, but we had, which I love, but we had two really cool opportunities. One I was very much more interested in than the other, because I was learning about AI, which I've been geeking out on. And then you went off to go to a profit event. And was really cool. We went to the first day together, but the second and third day I was in.   AI workshop, geeking out with some of the best on AI. Cool. I would love to hear what you took away from this event and what you learned, and maybe you can share that.   I wanted to go over my notes on one speaker in particular. I was kind of going back and forth between two of them and I think this is the one that I landed on. at a different date I could talk about the other one because you weren't there for either one of them. But on the second day, I'm just gonna call this like notes from a billionaire and not just a billionaire but a multi.   Billionaire and not just multi-billionaire but someone who is the founding member and CEO of I think they said they grew it to like it was a ridiculous number like 740 billion or it was a big it was a big number it was a very large impressive number and he was so nice I actually had a conversation with him before I even realized who he was I was chatting with him I wish I would have known   Like I recognized the name and then I saw him speak and I went man. I would've asked him a different question So I'll do a quick little intro and then I'll kind of share my notes from what I wrote down while he was presenting so intro his name is Jeff Hoffman and For those of you that don't know the name Like I didn't know the name before as soon as I say the name of the company you'll instantly go. okay No, know the company   The company is Priceline. So he is one of the founding members of Priceline. They started it and scaled it to many hundreds of billions of dollars.   This is some of the advice that he had shared with us in his Speech because I got to hear him get up and speak and present to the entire room. So The first thing that I wrote down I Don't know if he can be credited with saying this or if he was quoting someone else But he said it so I wrote it down because it resonated very much was ideas are welcome here But execution is worshiped   And I think that's really powerful because how many times do we all have this great idea, right? my God, I had this idea. my God, I had this idea. my God, we should do this. We should do that. What if we did this? There's no shortage of ideas. It's execution that's the hard part. It's turning an amazing idea into something and bringing that to life and bringing it to fruition. So I love it so much. That's good. Yeah.   too much attention a lot of times on the idea and the planning and all this stuff, but actually executing and actually getting something done, that's really all that matters. It doesn't matter. You can have a million ideas. If there's no execution, then who cares? So, okay. So I think my mom is a great example of this. Everyone, think mostly everyone knows Elf on the Shelf. So my mom, before Elf on the Shelf was a thing, she created it.   She just didn't do anything with it. She only used it like for me and my brother, but we had an elf that would come and visit and kind of keep an eye on us. And he would do fun things and he would pop around to different places in the house. So every time in the morning we would wake up and he would be in a different place or sometimes he would be doing like an activity. He'd be like baking or, you know, riding a bike or whatever. And it was so funny because when you look back on it, I went, mom, like,   that was off on the shelf and it's like multi-million dollar company. And she went, yeah, I wish I knew that. But she was just trying to do something fun for her kids. So she had taken that idea because it was, it was a great idea. And she executed on it, but she never brought it public. Can you imagine what would have happened if the execution was done on a larger scale? So she'll probably hate the fact that I'm calling her out on that. But I think that'll be her.   multi-million dollar missed story. Yeah. Yeah. So some of the questions that Jeff had asked when we're thinking about ideas, because we all have ideas. Some of them are good. Some of them are questionable. And some of them we can say like, yeah, that was a dud. So this is kind of a framework to take you through to figure out, is this worth executing on? One is.   Is this a problem? So you have to ask yourself, is this an actual problem? Like what you're doing, does this solve some sort of problem? And then bonus points if it's a big problem, right? So if we go back to the story of Priceline, many, many years ago, those kiosks that are in every airport that you can just check in on, you do not need to go and talk to a gate agent or a ticketing agent. They didn't used to exist.   You used to have to go stand in line and wait forever to get your ticket and your boarding pass and perhaps give somebody physically give somebody your bag and a lot of times people would miss their flight because the line was so so so long and you never knew ahead of time like is this gonna be a 10 minute line or is this gonna be a two hour line so people would miss their flight   And at one point, he turned around and he was in the airport, turned around, looked at the line and went, wow, this is such a crazy long line. And he decided, I'm going to start interviewing people right here and right now. And he went around asking people individually, how long have you been waiting? Wow, what happens if you miss your flight? Wow, what would you do? Would you think it would be valuable or beneficial if there was some sort of service where you didn't need to talk to the gate agent?   And people were bidding on it. They were bidding. They were like, I'll give you $10 if you can get me my ticket without talking to the gate agent. And then somebody else will go, no, forget $10. I'll give you $50 for that. And somebody else will go, oh, I must get there today. I will give you $70 to get there today. People were bidding on it in line. So he realized, one, there's a problem, but actually it's a big problem. So he knew he was on to something right there.   The second question is, is there a better way to do this? So is there a better way to check in for your flight than waiting in line and talking to a gate agent? Yeah, there sure is. It just hadn't been invented yet. But is that the best way to do it? No, absolutely not. So there was a better way to do something. And the third is, is there a value equation, which all that means is would somebody buy this?   And he knew that one, he had a problem and it was a big problem. Two, there was a better way to do it. And three, people would definitely pay for it because people were bidding on it while he was standing in line. People were like, wait, do you know something we don't know? Like, I will give you money if you can just get me on the front line because I need to get on this flight. So hence how Priceline was born. So those are three questions that you can kind of ask yourself. If you're going, okay, I have this idea, should I?   Should I do this? Should I act on it? Should I create something with this? Yeah. Seems pretty simple. think a lot of times we get really disconnected. you know, we study stuff, we learn stuff, we think we know, but when you actually go talk to your target audience and do a little bit of product research interview, you know, you can find out a lot of things that problems they have, things they need, and actually connect with, you know,   what you're wanting to sell them may not actually work. So yeah, I think that'd be super helpful. All right. So then he kind of gave tips on, well, if you are looking to seriously, massively scale a company because it's not, let's face it, not every company gets to a million, certainly not even to a billion and absolutely not to hundreds of billions of dollars. Right. So   These are tips that he had given the room in order to help you scale. And everyone thinks, you know, if I scale, I've got to do more. And actually you have to do less to be able to scale at that large of a size. he said, find your gold metal product or service. So for them, if you remember, if you would go on Priceline when it first launched, there was different tabs.   the top right you could book a flight you could book a hotel room you could book a cruise you could get a rental car you do a vacation package like they did all the things yeah and they were scaling but it wasn't to the size that they wanted to get to and they went okay if we only did one thing what would it be like what are we the best at the world at and for them it was hotel rooms so they said okay   It's not that we have to cut the other stuff. It's just that we're not going to market it. We're not going to advertise it. We're not going to talk about it. We're not going to put any money, time, or energy into that service. It's just there. But what we will do is we'll go all out on hotel rooms.   because they were the best in class at hotel rooms. So they didn't cut the other things out. Go on there now, you'll still see, but their bread and butter is hotel rooms. So the other things are still available. It's just that they never, if you look at any Priceline commercials, you'll never see anything other than hotel rooms. Why do think that is? Because they're marketing what they're the best in class at. So that is their top service.   Next is find your gold medal talent. So what was their gold medal talent? Any guesses? Don't cheat, don't lie. I know the answer because I was there. I don't know. I would imagine it's related to hotel rooms. So their gold medal talent are probably the best hotels. It was their algorithm. Okay.   for connecting people to hotels. So their algorithm was their talent. They had a talent in that. What is Amazon's? Shipping. Shipping. It's delivery. So if you remember, Amazon didn't start selling everything on the planet. It started as a book store. That's it. They only sold books. And what I didn't know is that when this whole internet   thing was blowing up. were three companies that were kind of becoming rising to the top all at the same time. It was Priceline with Jeff Hoffman and Partners. There was eBay. His name was Jeff and Pierre. Jeff and Pierre. And then there was Amazon. And that's Jeff Bezos. So somebody had asked him, what does it take to be successful in this internet thing? And he said, just find somebody.   who's a really good Jeff. They all had the best, they were the best in class at something and then they had the best in class at a specific talent. So Amazon, they got fantastic at shipping and they only did books. And Jeff Bezos said, you know, when we get, I'm only doing books right now. And then when we get to a certain size with books,   Then I want to branch out and then we'll do everything. But I don't want to do everything first right now. I just want to build our name and our reputation solely on books. Why? Because they were amazing at shipping. And now anytime that you buy something online, usually what's the first thought you think? Amazon probably has that. Why? Because you know they'll ship it. And then you need to shape your brand. That's the third piece of this.   you need to ask yourself what question are you the answer to? So for them, I need a hotel room. Where do I go? right, priceline. Or, they did a lot of this too, I want a $200 hotel room but I don't want to $200 on it, I only want to spend, you know, $100 or $80. Where do I go? Priceline. So shape your brand around that.   And then you've got to, in that arena, you've got to find your brand asset. So everyone goes, know, why should I work with you? I just watched a Jeremy Miner video, like at his live event, and he had a microphone and he went up to someone in the audience and he said, hey, why would someone work with you? I've seen these videos. And he let them answer. And he goes, mm-hmm.   Okay, and then he goes to the next audience answer and he goes, why would someone work with you? And he does it again and he goes, okay, so all of you guys really sound the same. You're in wildly different industries and companies, but you all sound the same. Yeah. Right? So you can't sound the same as everybody else and expect to stand out. So if you could only give one reason that somebody would work with you, what would that one reason be?   It's not about all the reasons, it's about the one reason and that shapes your brand. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought that was really good. If you aren't sure, you don't know, if you're like, I don't know, there's a lot of reasons why somebody wouldn't work with us. Ask your customers. Yeah, like why did they pick you? Why? What is the one reason? Don't just say why did they pick you because then they'll go, because of X, Y and Z. Great, was it X or was it Y or was it Z?   What is the one main reason that you decided to work with us? And do that ask 10 people. If you don't have 10 people, then keep selling until you can get 10 people. Because that data will tell you what is it that your customers have found in your messaging even though maybe you didn't do a great job at delivering it. So I thought that was really interesting. Yeah, that's good.   They talk about broadcasting versus what they call narrow casting So this is focusing on the right people not just any person Because for every product for every service for every brand There are the right people and Then there's everybody else So if you're trying to close every deal, it's almost like an impossible game Who do you target?   Will we target people? Everyone. People? Really? Who do you target? Well, I work with real estate investors. Well, geez, okay. There's only like hundreds of millions of those in the world. Which ones do you target? Yeah. Right? So some of this goes into our client-centric mission statement when we take our clients through their company culture stuff. But we want to get really, really clear on who are my people.   Not just who are people that could buy this. What are the right people to buy this? To work with me, to choose this, right? There's a difference. Right.   I mean, this makes sense. know, yeah, you got to really be specific because if you target everybody, you target nobody. Then then you're just more noise in the marketplace. So if you want to be, you know, like we're pretty niche at DoorGrow, we target long term residential property management companies in the U.S. Like that's our target audience that do third party property management. So that's our...   Do we get other types of clients? Sure, but that's our bread and butter. That's who we focus on and that's very specific. Those are the people we know we can help. And I'd say we're the best in the world at that. yeah. Right. So I think Sharan calls it a dog whistle. Right? Speak to your people and anyone who isn't your people, they won't hear it. It's not for you. Go ahead, I don't want you to hear it.   Just the dogs, Just the right ones. They'll hear it. Okay. This I liked a lot. He said, focus on your second slide customer. So find your yeses instead of overcoming nos. Every sales training in the world goes, let's overcome objections. Let's overcome no. Let's work a no into a yes. Let's see what we can do to turn it around. Overcome objections. No, don't overcome objections. Just find the yeses.   Second slide. Yeah, so you know when you have like a whole presentation prepared. Yeah, and The example he gave is he said he went out with one of his sales reps And there was like a 20 slide presentation that they that was like their pitch deck, right? so he spent the day with a sales guy and the first meeting they went to He got through all 20 slides and the woman was like, yeah, this sounds really good. I'm gonna think about it   I think we need to go back to you. like, yeah, yeah, like it wasn't a solid yes, because she didn't commit, she didn't sign up. But she was open to it. She's like, yeah, let me think about this. Like, let me take it up to management. We'll do something. So he got out of that meeting and he said to the sales rep, said, how do you think that went? Sales rep was super proud. He went, yeah, that was a great pitch. She's definitely going to buy. Like, she's going to come back around. Like, that's a deal that'll close. It's like in the pipelines.   about to close. Jeff said, yeah, I just didn't say anything. It's like, I just didn't say anything. I'm like, I'm not going to skew it. I just want the data, right? So he goes into another sales pitch, same sales rep. Slide two out of 20, two. They look at each other and went, oh my God, you're exactly what I needed. We're ready.   And the sales rep was like, well, wait, let me tell you more about the rest. And he's like nudging the guy. He's like, sign them up. They're ready. They don't need more information. They don't need anything else. They're ready to go right now. Stop trying to complete the pitch. It's done. You don't need the other 18 slides. They already said yes, and they said yes on slide two. Find your slide two yeses. Don't try.   to keep on going, don't try to turn the nose and do yes, don't overcome their objections, find your slide two customers. So what they actually did, this I thought was so interesting. This lit up my brain because I like data so Okay, I'm going to pause you. So nice little hook. Now we're going to go to our sponsor and then everyone can hear what you're about to Oh, that's so good. All right, so this episode is sponsored by Blanket.   So really like the team over at Blanket. Blanket is a property retention and growth platform that helps property managers stop losing doors, add more revenue, and increase the number of properties they manage. Wow your clients with a branded investor dashboard and an off-market marketplace while your team gets all the tools they need to identify owners at risk of churning and powerful systems to help you add more doors. So check it out, it's an amazing property retention platform.   Even if it's switching owner hands, you keep the property. So check out Blanket. what he did is he profiled people. know that sounds like nowadays we're elect. Don't profile that. No, profile our best customers who your best ones. Okay. That target audience. Who were your easiest sales? Who are your biggest fans?   Right? Figure out what do they have in common. They all have something in common, but what is it? So for them, they figured out that a rep that worked at the hotel chain that went, huh, we have all these extra hotel rooms. What do we do with them? Like, how do we sell them? That was their job. It's just to figure out how do we sell more rooms. Those were like his target audience. The reps that were brand new.   like one to two years on the job.   That was not it. Because they're so new that they're not willing to take a risk yet. So they were not very likely to close. It's not that they wouldn't close. not that you couldn't close them. It's that it wasn't like almost a guarantee to close them. Also, reps that have been in the job for like 15, 18, 20 years. Yeah. Also not it. Why? Because they know how to give a shit.   He's like, they're out the door, they're for the door, they're about to retire. They don't care. They don't care if they sell more hotel rooms. They just care that they keep their job until they can retire. So they're not, again, they're not almost practically guaranteed to close. So if you were in this bracket or in this bracket, he was like, yeah, it's not you. I'm not gonna target those people.   It's the people in between. It's the people that have been there for like three to, you know, somewhere between like that three to fifteen, three to fourteen years. Those people were amazing because they're not afraid to speak their opinion. They're looking to kind of make a name for themselves at this point. And they're not afraid to take a risk. But they are looking to do something big. Those were his people. How do think you figured that out?   as he profiled his best customers again and again and again. And you went, huh, look at that. The new ones, they don't do it. The old ones, they don't do it either. It's only this slot in the middle. And those, those are our people. Got it. I like that. Yeah, right? Makes me think, like, with our clients, who is almost always a guarantee to close? That's the profile of the target. Yeah. That's exactly what you want to do, because you want to profile the ones.   It's like a shoe in. If I didn't close this, it would be insane. Right? They even took it a step further. actually created a 100 points scoring chart. Yeah. And there were different questions. One of the questions was that one, for example, like how long have you been with your company? So if you're like one to two years, he would give them like negative 20 points. yeah. Right? So now it's like, your score just went down. now you answered this way. Your score went down again. Your score went down again.   Same thing with those, you know, the older ones. They would be like a negative 40 though, because they really didn't care. It's easier to close the newer ones than it is the older ones. So like, oh, I've been here 18 years. He's like, cool, negative 40 points. In the middle though, he might go, okay, there's like 25 points. Maybe there's 15 points. They just scored 15. Now what else? So you have to ask these questions and what his team got so good at doing once they implemented this hundred   100 point score sheet is They can ask a couple questions do the math in their head and then immediately decide is this worth my time? So if you knew you were talking to a 40 Go to lunch It's not you're not gonna close it. It's a 40 out of a hundred like go home That's it. But when you would get your 80s when you get your 90s, you'd be really excited. Yeah. Oh man. Okay. Let me invest in this   So they created this whole scoring chart. I thought that was so brilliant. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty standard feature in a lot of CRMs is lead scoring. coming up with a rubric or an algorithm for scoring your leads can be pretty significant. So yeah, it's a difficult thing to figure out, though. You've got to really know why which customers are good. So you can kind of figure out how do I score someone to duplicate these people. Right. Yeah. So good.   And this is probably something that will help you figure out how to score people and what questions to ask and what do they all have in common. He said, spend a day in the life of your customers and do it often. So the story that he told us, there was a company that when it launched, he knew the guy. He was having a conversation with him and he said, Hey, why did you launch your company the way that you did?   when every single market expert said it wouldn't work and you did it anyway and it worked and it was wildly successful but what made you go no I'm gonna do it anyway and the answer was well that's easy I didn't even ask the market experts so I didn't know that they didn't think that it wouldn't work because I didn't bother asking the market experts Jeff said well what did you do?   He said, well, I asked my audience. Sure. I asked my customers. That's it. He said, OK, well, how did you do that? So in this little town, across the bridge on like the less nice side of town.   The owner of this company, and I'll tell you the company in a minute, but the owner of this company, he would be in his office with his team all day. His team had MBAs, they were finance executives, they were accountants, right? Not, not his target audience. So he would get changed into jeans and a flannel shirt and a John Deere hat. He would go across the bridge to the bad side of town.   and would sit in a diner all day long. Every Friday he would do this. And he would just talk with people who would come in there. He would just make friends with them. He would chit chat. He would ask them questions. And he would just gather data. And he used that data for his lunch. Do you have any guesses? Did I tell you? I think I told you this story. You probably did. Do guesses on who it was? Uh, no. Walmart. Oh.   Sam Walton. Yeah, so this was Walmart. Okay. Every single expert said that will never work. And he said, yeah, I don't need to listen to experts. I need to listen to my customers. Right. Because the customers are going to tell you what they want. Yeah, they're the ones buying. So they know. So it doesn't matter what experts say. It matters what the customer says. Yeah, absolutely.   It was so good, right? And he really, he got to know these people. So it doesn't matter what the market says. It doesn't matter what the expert says. It matters what your customers say. If your customers are going to tell you what they want, you shall listen. And now you'll have a successful product, regardless of what the experts say. The experts don't understand everything like your customers do. Listen to what they're telling you.   So if you just get that data that allows you to do things that even other people would say, you're crazy, don't do that. And he didn't think it was crazy. He was like, no, I just, they're telling me what they want. I'm just going to do that. And he did. And it's still around today. Huge brand. Sometimes customers don't tell you what they want, but if you are connected with them enough, you can see what they're having problems with and what they're struggling with. And sometimes they just,   think that that's normal. They're just like, yeah, this is, hiring's hard, you know? And then I'm like, cool, we built a hiring system that solves this problem, right? And so, but a lot of people just kind of say, yeah, it's, you know, it is what it is. And they don't really think that it's a solvable problem sometimes. So that's, that's where I think, you know, you need to ask your customer, but you also need to, sometimes your customers are wrong. Like they don't know. And you have to be able to be creative enough to figure out what.   would they want if it was, you know, if they recognize this problem. And then sometimes you have to sell them, you attract, it's like we attract a lot of people at DoorGrow that think they want leads and they think they want digital marketing and they think they want SEO. And then we have to guide them towards what they actually need and sell them what they actually need, which is totally different. Yeah. So that's, that's, that can be a challenge. Maybe we'd be smarter if we just sold them what they were asking for, but.   they wouldn't get as great of results. Yeah, I feel like though, I personally, I just don't feel good about doing it. Yeah. Because to me, that's just a money taker, right? Right. That's an order taker, that's a money taker. That's like, hey, I really need to grow my business and like, I think this will work. And then that's like, yeah, give me your money. sell you that. just give you a whole bunch of leads. And months go by and...   Well, how come my business didn't grow? I only closed like four deals. Well, I just don't, I don't think I can really get behind that with integrity. Yeah. Yeah. It's not exciting to me. I know there are companies out there that will, and especially now with AI, like just be super careful with SEO. Be like extra careful at this point with SEO because SEO is literally dying.   Like thing. Yeah, the whole game's changed. With AI. The whole game's changed. More people are using chat GPT than Google. It's been a huge disruptor. It's such a big disruptor that the antitrust lawsuit against Google has dropped.   I mean that's massive. for those that don't know, just sum it up, the antitrust lawsuit. Well, Google was being sued because they had almost no competition. They dominated the search market like nobody could compete. And the closest competitor was like a small fraction. And so the government was going after them with an antitrust lawsuit. And then ChatGPT broke. All these AI tools and platforms came out. And now Google is no longer viewed as   viable you know threat of a monopoly yeah and they may be losing this whole AI race which is super wild right yeah they're fighting they've got their AI tool all over the place Gemini is pretty good it's really good for a lot of things but it's not winning   Yeah, yeah. yeah, with like, chat GPT was something nobody knew that could happen. Like we didn't even realize this was something we all wanted. We all wanted like some almost genius thing that we could talk to all the time to get all sorts of information. Yeah, quickly without having to dig and try and do our own research. So, well. Okay, we'll go one more story and then I've got a closing quote.   So I think we all know at this point the brand 1-800 flowers they're huge now So before they used to be huge because they weren't always Jeff went out to go visit one of their shops And everywhere everywhere in the shop they had posters printed up like slopped on the walls every wall   in every room, in the hallways, in the bathroom, in the garage, in every single room. And it was just printed up on the walls, sell more flowers. Why? Because that is what we're all about. That is the only thing that we care about is selling more flowers. We don't care about anything else.   We are only here to sell more flowers. And every single person in this company exists for one reason and one reason only and that is to sell more flowers. So every single person, every single minute of every single day needs to be thinking, how can I sell more flowers? So it doesn't matter what their role was in the business, they need to be thinking, how can I sell more flowers? So he's walking down the hall and there was an admin.   She did a lot of paperwork, answering the phones, things like that. She's got this huge stack of papers and she's walking down the hall with a stack of papers. And the owner says, hey, whatever her name is, Susan, hey Susan. And he points up to the wall and he goes, what are you doing right now? And she goes.   puts the paperwork down, turns around, walks away. And Jeff said, well, what on was that? And he said, if you're not, we have a rule, if you are not doing something, that can somehow be connected to how does it help us sow more flowers? My rule is you do not do it. Ever. So whatever she was doing, clearly, was not connected to sow more flowers. So therefore, I reminded her, sow more flowers.   And she stopped, promptly, what she was doing and went back to what she should be doing, which is sell more flowers. So they continue on this tour. They get back into the back of the shop, into the garage where they've got their van for deliveries. And they have a mechanic. The mechanic is underneath, one inch away. And he goes, hey. He goes, watch this. He goes, hey, Joe.   He points at the wall. He goes, what are you doing right now? And Joe says, oh, well, I was installing this new filter on all of our vans because this new filter, it saves us X money dollars in gasoline per tank. I think it was $8. So we save with this new filter. We actually save like $8.   per tank of gasoline. So I'm going to install each of the filters on our vans. And then what I'm going to do is I'm going to go inside and tell marketing to print up some coupons for $8 off.   of a bouquet of flowers and we're going to run that as a promo because if we just saved eight dollars that means we have eight dollars extra so we might as run a promo and that'll help us sell more flowers. And he goes, yeah, it's brilliant. Do that. So the mechanic is thinking all day every day how do I sell more flowers? Now would a mechanic generally be thinking about selling flowers? No.   He'd be thinking, how do I wrench on this? How do I fix that? What about the oil change? What about the tires? What about the spark plugs and the brakes? He's not thinking about selling flowers. But it wasn't lost on him because all day, every day, he's staring at a big sign that says, sell more flowers. So it doesn't matter what you are doing. If it's not connected to helping us sell more flowers, what you're doing does not fricking matter. This goes along with a book called The Goal by Elihu Goldratt. And The Goal, spoiler for everybody that wants to read this.   operational book is to make money. And so a lot of times we get caught up in creating systems, inventory, things that actually cause waste or over optimizing each individual department or each individual step, but it actually reduces the overall goal of optimizing for selling more flowers, for example, or making more money. And so sometimes   team members standing around doing nothing is more effective than them building more widgets for the next step because it just creates more waste or more inventory or like constraint. And so that's the idea is the goal is to eliminate all the constraints to create momentum so that you get that that money coming in and everybody should be focused on that goal because it's very easy to get caught up and like he could be super caught up and I'm gonna make the cars run hyper effective and efficiently but   Maybe that just causes more financial spend or maybe that doesn't help them sell more flowers, for example. And so when everybody understands the overall goal and how they fit into that puzzle, then instead of just focusing on, I did my job or I'm doing this, they're focused on, is this helping the goal? And so I love that. I love that idea. And I think that's super important to get everybody on the team to focus on. Cause a lot of times everything's siloed. They focus on their little department.   They focus on their little role and they forget the overall goal of the company is to make money. Right. So even like your property managers, your leasing agents, your operator, like everybody who's on what I would call like back end, they have the same job, which is to get more properties to manage. So even if you're not in sales, it doesn't matter. Salespeople, it's very obvious the connection.   It's like, yeah, so close more contracts and close more deals and then I have more properties, duh. Great, but how does that apply to your leasing agent? How does that apply to your property manager? How does that apply to your receptionist who's answering the phone? How does that apply to your AI tool? So everybody and everything is aligned with the one goal of the business, which is I don't care what we do unless...   we sell more flowers. I don't care what we do. don't care. There is no point in changing the tires if it doesn't help us sell more flowers. Right? So I don't need to hear just for that thing. If we don't sell more flowers, I don't need to change the tires. So they've got to be connected. And that was a great example of how somebody even so far removed from the back end of the business. He's like,   Back end of the back end is the mechanic. And he's still focused on top-lingle. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you talk to your team and you ask them, what are you doing? And you had to sign up the set, like, you know, get more property management clients. A lot of you aren't focused on that. A lot of them are like, well, I'm just talking to every tenant all the time. I'm talking to every owner all the time. Is that helping the goal of you getting more clients? No, a lot of things aren't.   Is it helping keep clients? Cool. That is part of getting more clients, is keeping the clients. But yeah, if it's not related to keeping clients or getting more clients, managing more properties, then there's a lot of bloat and a lot of waste in property management companies. We see it all the time. So much. Yeah. And we're really good at helping you see it. So if you want to make more money and you've got a decent number of doors, you've got 200 plus doors, come talk to us.   Our program will be paid for, but probably just the first stuff we help you with in the first month. It's a no-brainer. Okay. Okay, then I'll close it out with this. Okay. He said, as a quote, don't chase money, chase excellence, because excellence follows money. I like it. Yeah, right? It's okay. Because a lot of that's people want. They're like, I just want to make enough money. I want to make more money. It won't matter if you're not excellent at what you do. Yeah.   Yeah, well cool. Well, those of you listening, if you have felt stuck, stagnant, want to take your property management business to the next level, reach out to us at doorgrow.com. Also join our free Facebook community just for property management business owners at doorgrowclub.com. And if you want tips, tricks, ideas to learn about and to learn about our offers in DoorGrow, subscribe to our newsletter by going to doorgrow.com slash subscribe. And if you found this even a little bit helpful,   Don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review on whatever channel you found this on. We'd really appreciate it. And until next time, remember, the slowest path to growth is to do it alone. So let's grow together. Bye everyone.  

What if every sales call you made came with instant coaching from Jeremy Miner himself, powered by AI? Paul Allen, founder of Ancestry.com and now Soar AI, covers how sales psychology and AI coaching are transforming the way knowledge workers master communication. In this conversation, Jeremy Miner and Paul explore how game film analysis, what elite athletes have used for decades, can now be applied to sales calls through AI-powered feedback, creating personalized coaching at scale.   See why most sales training fails (forgotten within weeks), how asking better questions changes entire conversations, and what happens when Jeremy Miner's NEPQ methodology gets cloned through AI to coach hundreds of thousands of salespeople simultaneously. Walk away understanding how to turn every call into a learning moment, why humans must remain at the center of AI design, and how communication skills shape not just sales outcomes but entire societies.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:13) From CD-ROMs to Building Ancestry (05:17) Shifting from Past to Future (08:01) Born with Talents, Built Through Skills (13:33) Why Jeremy and Paul Partnered (19:10) What ChatGPT Can't Do That 7Q AI Can (26:16) Speaking Things Into Existence (33:06) Why AI Creates More Jobs Than It Destroys (37:33) Building Movements That Outlast You (45:28) Where to Get AI-Powered Sales Coaching  

In this episode, Spencer Ward dives into one of the most important (and often overlooked) keys to building a successful business — employee systems and company culture. No matter what industry you're in, your people are your biggest asset… but only if they're bought in. Spencer breaks down: Why systems come before motivation How to build a culture that drives accountability The truth about employee buy-in (and why not everyone will buy in) How strong systems + strong culture = lower turnover and happier customers Featuring insights and quotes from Mike Campion, Jeremy Miner, Tony Robbins, Carl Allen, Alex Hormozi, and Patrick Bet-David, this episode gives real talk from a business owner who's in the trenches building teams and scaling service-based companies the right way. If you're serious about growing your business, improving retention, and building a team that actually cares — this one's for you.   If you are feeling the love, make sure to subscribe, rate, and review on iTunes, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you are!! If you'd like to be featured on an episode go to theidahobusinesspodcast.com to APPLY! Apple Podcasts Spotify YouTube

Jeremy Miner sits down with Donald Miller (author of Building a StoryBrand) whose framework has helped thousands of brands clarify their message, connect emotionally with customers, and grow faster through strategic storytelling.  You'll learn how to cast your customer as the hero of your message, avoid the biggest storytelling mistakes brands make, and use emotion to drive people to act, not just scroll past. Donald also shares how to fold StoryBrand principles into real sales conversations to make your message irresistible. Watch until the end, you'll walk away with concrete storytelling frameworks you can apply immediately. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (00:23) The Most Functional Use Of AI in Business (02:11) Biggest Challenge of Entrepreneurs implementing Storybrand (03:21) The Standard For “Good” Writing (05:07) Department Of Defense Name Rebranding (07:17) Telling Your Personal Story For A Brand  Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-637-2944 The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo Connect with Me Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 Connect with Donald  Website: https://storybrand.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/donaldmiller Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@CoachBuilder

If your message isn't clear, your brand won't scale. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, bestselling author Donald Miller, creator of the StoryBrand Framework, reveals the storytelling psychology that's helped generate over $100 million in sales for brands around the world. Learn why the human brain only pays attention to stories tied to survival and how to make your customer the hero of your brand's story. Donald and Jeremy break down how clarity in messaging, empathy, and identity transformation drive real sales conversion. Learn how elite brands and entrepreneurs simplify communication, connect emotionally, and master storytelling in sales. You'll leave with practical storytelling tactics you can apply today to boost conversions and make your brand impossible to ignore.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:42) How the Brain Reacts to Storytelling (04:33) From Memoir Writer to Marketing Expert (07:16) Why Brands Shouldn't Be the Hero (10:52) The P.E.A.C.E. Framework Explained (15:48) Political Campaigns That Failed at Clarity (22:04) Selling Identity and Transformation (30:17) Storytelling vs. Clever Marketing (38:55) How AI Is Changing Brand Messaging (54:26) Legacy: Becoming a Survival Asset  

In this powerful episode, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon sits down with legendary sales expert and entrepreneur Jeremy Miner to discuss the foundation of success. Jeremy, the founder of Seventh Level, reveals the mental frameworks, communication skills, and commitment required to achieve peak performance in any area of life.Drawing from his own harrowing health scare and decades of experience coaching top performers, Jeremy shares candid insights into what separates the top 1% from everyone else. This conversation is not just about sales—it's about the psychology of human connection, overcoming fear, and unlocking your full potential to build a more resilient and successful life.Who is Jeremy Miner:Jeremy Miner is an internationally recognized sales trainer and entrepreneur, best known as the founder of the sales training company 7th Level. He is the creator of the Neuro-Persuasion Sales Method and has a background in behavioral science, which he uses to train sales professionals. Previously, he was a highly successful, commission-only salesperson who was ranked among the top earners globally before retiring to start his training company. Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro3:06 - The Psychology of Success10:31 - How Fear Can Drive You14:40 - Communication Skills33:14 - The Power of Problem-Finding39:33 - The 4 Categories of Performance1:00:21 - Jeremy's Cancer Scare1:12:32 - Advice for Mental ToughnessThis episode is brought to you by:Puori - Use code DRLYON for 20% off - https://puori.com/DRLYONCozy Earth - Use code DRLYON for up to 20% off - cozyearth.com/DRLYONBON CHARGE - Use code DRLYON to get 15% off your entire order - https://boncharge.com/DRLYONOneSkin - Get 15% off with the code DRLYON – https://www.oneskin.coFind Jeremy Miner at: Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremy_miner)Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/)Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JeremyLeeMiner/Offers: 7q.ai (http://7q.ai/) Waitlist: https://7q.ai/waitlistThe NEPQ PRIMER Community:

If your lead source disappeared tomorrow, would your team still stay? Jeremy Miner and Dean Kozora are building a sales culture where the answer is yes. Jeremy, founder of 7th Level, sits down with Dean, founder of Hardly Selling, to announce their new partnership. Hardly Selling is a sales training agency that focuses solely on sales team growth recruiting new team members, consulting on sales process, and scaling elite sales organizations. Through this partnership, they're helping expand 7th Level's internal sales team and giving top sales professionals the opportunity to train directly under Jeremy's NEPQ methodology inside a proven system. Dean has built over 17 sales teams past $1M/month, and together they share the frameworks that create top-performing sales teams, cultures that retain talent, and systems that scale with integrity. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (01:19) The High-Ticket Gap (03:14) Onboarding and Product Knowledge (06:54) The Ideal Sales Rep Profile (ISRP) (08:59) Systems and the “Broken Pipe” Problem (12:42) Hiring and Culture (15:52) Leadership, Pay, and Retention (22:12) The 7th Level x Hardly Selling Partnership (29:14) How to Apply Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level⁠ Get Top Sales Talent For Your Business: ⁠https://calendly.com/d/cshn-ztm-n69/7th-level-recruiting⁠ ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠

Most sales reps want the strategy. The script. The magic closing line.But I went from making nothing… to over $35 million in commissions across multiple industries by making 3 simple but powerful shifts that have nothing to do with your script.In this episode with Jeremy Miner, I break down exactly what changed for meThese 3 shifts aren't theory. They're what allowed me to make $200K months (back-to-back) with no team, no setters, no gimmicks—just me.If you're serious about leveling up in sales, leadership, and life… this is the conversation you need to hear.

In business and in sales, the future is changing faster than most can keep up. AI isn't just a buzzword anymore. It's transforming how deals are made and how teams operate. In this episode of the #DoorGrowShow, property management growth expert Jason Hull sits down with Steve Trang of ObjectionProof.ai to explore how AI sales reps can book appointments, review calls, and follow up with leads instantly, what this means for property management entrepreneurs, and why learning to leverage AI now is critical to staying competitive. You'll Learn [01:24] The AI Revolution [11:11] AI Sales Reps [17:39] The Future of AI in Sales [27:31] The Importance of Asking Good Questions [34:49] Setting Impossible Goals to Grow Faster Quotables “I'm not here to say your job is at stake, but you should operate as if it is—because if you're not, you're going to get replaced.” “The version of AI today is the worst version you'll ever deal with—because it's only getting better.” “AI can instantly—99.9% uptime—call the prospect, ask questions, and book an appointment for you or your salesperson to actually run the sales process.” Resources DoorGrow and Scale Mastermind DoorGrow Academy DoorGrow on YouTube DoorGrowClub DoorGrowLive Transcript Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (00:00) We are building out an AI agent that can actually run sales.   call the prospect, ask questions, book an appointment.   for you,   so it actually sounds like you're having a conversation with another human being.   Jason Hull (00:14) All right, I am Jason Hull, the founder and CEO of DoorGrow, the world's leading and most comprehensive coaching and consulting firm for long-term residential property management entrepreneurs. For over a decade and a half, we have brought innovative strategies and optimization to the property management industry. At DoorGrow, we have spoken to thousands of property management business owners, coached, consulted, and cleaned up hundreds of businesses, helping them add doors, improve pricing.   increase profit and simplify operations and build and replace teams. We are like bar rescue for property managers. In fact, we have cleaned up and rebranded over 300 businesses and we run the leading property management mastermind with more video testimonials and reviews than any other coach or consultant in the industry. At DoorGrow, we believe that good property managers can change the world and that property management is the ultimate high trust gateway.   to real estate deals, relationships, and residual income. At DoorGrow, we are on a mission to transform property management business owners and their businesses. We want to transform the industry, eliminate the BS, build awareness, change perception, expand the market, and help the best property management entrepreneurs win. Now, let's get into the show. All right, my guest today is Steve Trang of objectionproof.ai, and we're gonna be talking about, I guess, the future.   Does that sound about right?   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (01:36) Yeah, I would say that's very, very relevant, even more acutely today than normal. Yes.   Jason Hull (01:42) So we are in the middle of this insane AI revolution. know, AI is taking over quickly. Everybody's talking about all the jobs that are going to go away. Everybody's playing with chat GPT. It's becoming like their second brain. We're all maybe getting a little dumber because of it. Who knows? But we're also getting more more capabilities.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (01:59) Yeah.   Jason Hull (02:03) It's all speeding up so quickly even before we started. I'm like, I just tried this tool and you're like, have you heard of this tool? And like, there's just so many tools out there. before we get into all that, Steve, tell us a little bit, give us a little background on you as an entrepreneur and how you kind of got into entrepreneurism and what led to objection proof.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (02:26) Yeah, so it's going to be a long, secretive road because I got into real estate in 2005. So, you know, I did the good, you know, the, the get good grades so can get a good job deal. Right. I all that. was an engineer. I worked at Intel. and I realized fairly quickly, I wasn't manageable. And so, I had to, I had to find something else where I could work for myself. I read rich dad, poor dad from that. It's like, I got to do real estate, but.   I didn't take the advice quite right because I became a realtor in 07, not a good time. So that was a major, major humbling experience. I did some short sales, which are relevant again today. I a list of properties for banks, eventually started my own brokerage. You know, when the bank, when the foreclosure started dying down, became, my own brokerage. Did pretty well. had almost 1 % or we had 1 % market share for a very, short period of time. In the Phoenix market, one of every 100 transactions went through our brokerage.   then, I started buying houses, cash started wholesaling, did some flipping, started a podcast disruptors, which is where most people know me from. And then along the way I started a sales training program, started a title company, did some mortgage joint ventures. and then where we are today is AI. I probably sound very ADHD. I promise you, I don't have it.   I'm just always chasing the next object, which is very much a symptom of ADHD. But I can sit down and focus for long periods of time. It's just that I'm an entrepreneur, I started out as entrepreneur, and it wasn't until the last two, three years that I've actually learned how to actually sit down and focus. So that's how we got here.   Jason Hull (03:58) Okay, yeah.   All right, cool. So now that you know how to focus, what are you focused on?   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (04:05) Our focus is at this point more than half of my work schedule, which is more than 50 hours a week, right? It's probably like 60 or 70, is on AI. And the reason why is because things are changing so fast and the things we're trying to do are so innovative. And everyone says that, right? But like We are building out an AI agent that can actually run sales.   And so that is something that a lot of people have promised is something we're actually doing. Now, it's not going to buy a house. Is that going to convince a landlord to allow you to do property management? You're still going to have to do the heavy lifting. But what it can do is initiate the conversation, right? So if someone fills out a form, AI can instantly, 99.9 % uptime, right, because it's all technology now, call the prospect, ask questions, book an appointment.   for you, the business owner or salesperson, to actually run your sales process. So we can actually book appointments. It sounds real. You can't tell it's AI. Well, if you're really, really deep in the AI world, you could probably tell it's AI. But most people can't tell it's AI. And so it actually sounds like you're having a conversation with another human being. And it took a lot of effort to make that happen.   Jason Hull (05:22) Yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (05:23) So that's where a core, a very, very heavy percentage of our detention is today.   Jason Hull (05:28) Got it. Yeah. I've started playing around with it. I haven't pulled the trigger to actually have AI agents calling or cold calling my prospects. I'm a little nervous about doing that.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (05:36) Mm-hmm.   It's a there's there's elements of leap of faith, right? But you can also test it. You know, we have a if you want to, you know, give it out, we have like a way to opt in for AI to call you so you can hear for yourself what it sounds like. It's not perfect, right? Like the we launched it on August 1st to all our existing clients. So, you know, not that long ago. ⁓ And we're learning about bugs that we weren't aware existed as we're testing it.   Jason Hull (05:59) Yeah.   Yeah.   Right. Yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (06:06) because that's how new this is, right? So we're still iterating   and getting better all the time.   Jason Hull (06:10) Yeah, got it. OK, cool. Well, that's that's the future. I mean, the amazing thing is. I just signed up for an AI tool like this last weekend and they had this chat bot on the home page that you click talk and it's like a voice, it talks to you and it can hear you talk and it was in the voice of one of the principals of the company. And it was like really good. I don't know if they use 11 labs to do the voice or whatever.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (06:29) Yeah.   Right.   Mm-hmm. It's probably   11 labs, so that would be my guess.   Jason Hull (06:40) But   yeah, it was like his voice and I could ask it anything. I was asking like, it do AI, like can it do API integrations with HubSpot and how would it connect to this? And it was like giving me, yeah, you could do this and this is how it would work and this way. And I was like, there was no question I could ask it, it didn't know. And it knew everything about the tool. I could ask all sorts of questions about its capabilities and it's like, nope, we don't have that functionality but you could do it this way. And I was like, I was like.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (06:53) All right.   Jason Hull (07:07) I felt like it knew more than any salesperson at their company I could have talked to.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (07:12) Oh, 100%. Yeah.   Jason Hull (07:14) And so I was really blown away. was like, I I spend hours asking questions because they had, it was like, you have to pay for the year for this tool, right? So I was like, I'm not going to pay for the year for a tool. If I don't know, like I can't trial it or anything. So I was like, I'm asking every question and because it could answer every question I could throw at it with ease. I got all my answers asked and nobody there had to spend any human labor time to talk to me. And I signed up.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (07:22) Yeah. ⁓   Jason Hull (07:42) It was pretty wild. And I'm like, wait a second, could I do this? Can my clients do this? Yeah. But yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (07:48) ⁓ You can answer   all the questions. That's not a sales thing, right? Because we have a philosophy that sales is an emotional process, not logical process. So it can answer all the questions. It can remove a lot of the obstacles. But someone still needs to either sell a story or a dream. Or our philosophy is can we ask Jason enough questions.   Jason Hull (07:55) Yes.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (08:09) where Jason can formulate his own dream and decide to purchase himself. Because the thing we talk about is we don't sell. We get prospects to sell themselves. And so the one thing that AI cannot do just yet is to get you to sell yourself so that you're willing to sign a contract or pull out a credit card. The thing about entrepreneurs, business owners, and salespeople, the reason why we're such great buyers is because we tell ourselves great stories.   Jason Hull (08:18) Yes, totally true.   Yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (08:34) The   general public is not as good at telling ourselves as great as stories. And so they don't need someone to facilitate that conversation to get them to pull the trigger.   Jason Hull (08:42) you   Yeah, I've really followed Jeremy Miner's kind of new model of selling sort of formula is NEPQ stuff. And because I noticed sales was getting harder and harder, like people didn't trust. And we're like in this post trust era, nobody trusts anything anymore. so, you know, everything's fake. Like is everybody's perception, especially since the pandemic, everybody got a little bit burned, you know, in the last several years. We're like, everybody's trying to trick us like   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (08:48) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes.   Exactly.   Mm-hmm.   Everyone has an agenda. Yeah.   Jason Hull (09:10) And nobody has our best interests at heart. Everybody has   an agenda. And I'm actually working on a book right now called the Golden Bridge Formula, which is my philosophy in selling, which is basically if you can showcase how, if I am purely selfish and I'm achieving what I want out of life, I can show how it benefits you, my prospect. And so everybody can trust our motives. If the default assumption in sales is that your motive is to get their money.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (09:19) All right.   are mutually aligned.   Jason Hull (09:34) which is a really crappy sort of motive, right? But I have something I want more than money, right? Which relates to my purpose in life. And so we teach our clients how to build that golden bridge and how to do that. So I think it'll be really interesting to see when people start to build. I think that's the thing is it would take some real intelligence from, you know, a human that understands empathy and understands this.   question-based selling in order to build out AI bots that can do it. Well, I don't know, but we'll see.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (10:04) I would estimate we're probably about 12 months out because we can do it pretty well right now, but we can't do it well with latency and enough information. So like when we're scheduling appointments, like the reason is not to schedule an appointment. There's only a handful of objections, right? But when we're doing real estate,   Jason Hull (10:14) Yeah.   Mm-hmm.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (10:24) there's a lot more questions that need to be answered. And also there's all sorts of different creative ways we can solve the problem, right? Like, you know, the traditional buying land creatively is like, all right, Jason, look, you can pick price, you can pick timeframe, you can pick payments, but you can't pick all three, right? We're not quite there yet, because the dimensions of how you can negotiate a real estate transaction.   Jason Hull (10:40) Yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (10:47) It's substantial, right? It could be like, what's most important to them? Is it the depreciation? Is it the tax consequences? Is it the appreciation? Is it the cashflow? Is it I need to hide my taxes, right? Like what is your agenda? And so like AI doesn't have all the information today.   Jason Hull (11:02) Hmm.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (11:04) But I imagine 12 months from now, we can have enough data, can have AI figure all that out.   Jason Hull (11:10) Yeah, I would think so. okay. Well, tell us about objection proof. Like what is it?   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (11:17) Okay. So, before we get into that, I've been a sales trainer for more than six years now. So we've been coaching the top, house buyers across the country. You know, I'm in Collector Genius, I'm in boardroom and family mastermind. And so like, I work with the biggest and best operators across the country. And as I was looking at it, we've trained hundreds of sales teams and we've trained thousands of salespeople. And so when we talk about our AI tool, it's really just leveling up what already existed.   Jason Hull (11:29) Mm-hmm.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (11:45) And so earlier this year, we had three different individuals. We Stephanie Biders, the left main, Brad Chandler with Express Home Buyers, and then Casey Ryan, another really successful wholesaler in Vegas. All three of them, in a course of days, pulled me aside and said, hey, Steve, can you create an AI tool that does this? Hey, Steve, can you create an AI tool that does that? And the things they were asking for was an AI tool that can do automatic call reviews.   Right, because there's nothing more frustrating as a business owner than to sit down and listen to call reviews, right? I'd rather cold call than listen to a call review. And so, ⁓ so can you automate the call reviews? Especially if it's bad calls, yes. Right, and so can we automate call reviews? all right, so I set out to figure out how to do that. The other problem was like, how do I know my new salesperson is now ready to take leads I'm paying for?   Jason Hull (12:20) Right.   Right, especially if it's mad calls.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (12:43) You hire a salesperson, you onboard and you train them. When are they actually ready for leads that you're spending three, $400 for? Okay, so let's create a roleplay bot that can measure the quality. And then the last thing is how can we have our salespeople train every day on your ideal sales process? So again, the same idea with a roleplay bot is that you can call it every single day and train on it. So we created that.   Jason Hull (12:44) Right.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (13:12) earlier this year and that's been growing like gangbusters. Right. And then the thing again, we just launched this past week or week and a half now is an AI lead manager, which takes it from like someone that fills out an inquiry on the web form to calling them within seconds, right? To talk to them, to schedule an appointment. And the great thing about AI is that it has zero call reluctance. And I can tell you in my own personal experience as the one that created this tool.   Jason Hull (13:30) Yeah.   Yes.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (13:40) When I built it out, I forgot to iterate, like this is super nerdy stuff, right? But like, hey, call three times and stop, right? But I didn't get the counter right, so it always started zero every time I went through the loop. It called me 15 times in a row before I figured out how to shut it off, right? So it's got zero call reluctance. Oh yeah, if you said it, it'll call you 100 times a row, 1,000 times a row, no fear.   Jason Hull (14:01) It's very persistent, yeah.   Well, you know,   that's super interesting because I saw a video recently from Alex Hermosy and I've worked with him. I've been in masterminds with him and he said that he, one of his partner companies that he invests in, they had a 400 % increase in their close rate just by hiring one person to call every new lead within 60 seconds of the lead coming in. 400 % increase in deals close. And I'm like,   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (14:26) Mm-hm. Yeah. Right.   Jason Hull (14:31) That speed to lead is a significant thing. So I've been thinking about the same exact thing. I'm like, can connect Sinflow to HubSpot or can I do something to get some sort of phone agent to like call a new lead instantly? Because it's really difficult to get my team to do that. They might be in the middle of something. They might be making calls right then, you know? And so, yeah, 60 seconds.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (14:46) They're humans.   They can be at a sales appointment,   they can be in the bathroom, they can be in the car driving back from an appointment. Yeah, exactly.   Jason Hull (14:55) It can be late at night, like when the lead comes in, you know, and I don't know,   maybe somebody's filling out a lead form at one in the morning. I don't know if they'd answer the phone, but like call them and text them an email and maybe something happens. don't know.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (15:08) Exactly. Yeah, so that's the problem we seek to solve and I would say we did a pretty good job of it.   Jason Hull (15:14) Nice. Okay. Very cool. So yeah, super cool. So mean, this is the future and you know, I'm sure now because AI allows us to innovate with AI even faster, like it's, it's snowballing. Like it's just speeding up rapidly. It's like, now you can go to your AI and say, Hey, I want to figure out how to do this, solve this problem. And it's like, here's a bunch of ideas, which like   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (15:25) Mm-hmm. Yes.   Mm-hmm.   Right.   Jason Hull (15:38) Evaluate these ideas which ones are the best ideas and it's like this one will give you the the biggest return, right? Yeah, so it's pretty wild. So I think I did in working on my book over the weekend in a day. I probably did what would have taken 90 days of research in it like It just months of research like   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (15:57) Mm-hmm. Yeah.   Yeah,   the time compression is just absolutely outrageous. The amount of time AI can save you is just off the charts. I built out the tool. Now there's Ian Ross from an organization. He's the AI Whisperer. He's been training the AI boss for two years now. But I built everything around it. And if I were to try to do everything I did without AI, three years maybe to get it done, right?   to learn React and SuperBase and all this other stuff, right? To learn how to compress audio files and automatically. And it took me months to get a product. We have, we're looking at, have 130 clients now using our tool. And it's something that started less than six months ago. So yeah, AI is showing you how to use AI.   Jason Hull (16:43) Wow. Yeah.   Yeah, I mean, it's scratching a super strong   niche. Like if you go on Google Trends and put in AI and it like, just watch, it's like nothing and then it's just going crazy and it's surpassing everything right now. So let me share a quick word from our sponsor real quick for this episode. So our sponsor is Cover Pest. 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What do you see as the future of what's gonna be happening with sales and what are your team working on developing next?   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (17:57) I mean, the things we're working on next is just getting to the actual sales conversation where, you know, for someone that needs to their house for cash, right, which is our core audience, is how do we get it from beginning of a web form all the way into an actual transaction to actually get assigned a contract? That is going to be the next step. I think we can incorporate transaction management into it.   Right? The goal here is to get to a point where you basically have a handful of salespeople. One person that can handle the acquisitions, the buying of the houses. One person can handle the dispositions. And one person still to really talk to homeowners as scheduled appointments because the reality is AI doesn't replace everybody. AI just makes everybody better. As matter of fact, in half an hour from now, we're actually doing a training internally where our guy Ian, our AI whisperer,   is going to be teaching everyone in our organization prompt engineering. And the reason why that is, is that everyone needs to be using AI. Because if you're not, the amount of productivity everyone in organization, since we started using AI, is at least three times better, at least, if not more. And so every person that's not using AI is expensive now, because their amount of productivity is less than a third of what the other guy who is using AI.   Jason Hull (18:59) Right.   Right. So you could easily 3x the output if you just understand how you can leverage AI in some clever use cases.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (19:18) Exactly. Right. So if you look at that and then the reality is if I can get it down to just the best salespeople in my organization and AI everything else, everyone else that's not using it, their marketing costs, their overhead and everything else is just going to be more than mine to do the same amount of work, which in a very short period of time isn't that big a deal. But if I can reduce my overhead by 10 % compared to you and we're running the same business model.   Next month I have 10 % more to spend on marketing. And the month after that. And month after that. And my sales is only gonna grow. So we're gonna see a time where those that aren't on board are gonna find themselves unable to compete just because of margins alone. We had a, there's a colleague of mine, someone I look up to, I respect a lot. And we had a conversation where she let four people, she let go of four people earlier this year.   Jason Hull (19:50) Right. Yeah. And it compounds.   Right.   to compete, totally.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (20:13) Each person, six figure salary. So, she had to let go four people. And the reason why was that AI can do their job, right?   Jason Hull (20:24) Yeah, I six figure salary is saving like what half a million? Yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (20:27) almost half a mil, right? And she's   like, and it sucks because she cares about these people. They've been with her as she built out the company, right? But right now her competition is some kid who lives at home with no expenses. She can't compete with that kid if she has all this expense on her payroll. It sucks. So everyone in our company is going to have to learn how to use AI to do their job more effectively, more efficiently. And so that's, so I would say on top of   Jason Hull (20:31) Yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (20:54) the sales part is that everyone, everyone is getting looked at. There's a person in organization, I'm like, how are you getting so much done? Because she has stepped up and picked up three other people's in the last year. She picked up three other people's jobs. And then I talked to her last week, like, what are you doing? And she just showed me her chat GPT that's always open. That's it. She's just picking up other people's jobs because she's able to do it all day.   Excelled at using it and I think that's just that's just the future and this is not nothing new that people haven't heard before Really? What I would say is there should be a wake-up call if you're not listening as a matter of fact I had a really uncomfortable conversation last week Because I train acquisition managers, which is sales disposition managers, which is moving the properties Lead managers we were booking the appointments and then sales managers right how to manage sells people get the most out of them the lead manager call I was like, hey look   how many of you guys are paying attention to what I'm saying on social media? And like maybe 10%, 12 % raise their hands. I was like, okay, if you're not paying attention on what on social media, then this needs to be your wake up call. I have created an AA tool that is directly threatening your job. I am training you and I'm also creating a tool that might compete against you, that will probably compete against you. And so the reality is,   Jason Hull (22:08) or real life.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (22:13) A, it's awesome you're on this call, because you're training becoming one of the better ones across the country. And you have to have this mindset that I'm going to be irreplaceable. So you have to be the best, because this is what you're competing against. So I'm not here to say your job is at stake, but you should operate as if it is, because if you're not, you're going to get replaced. That was an uncomfortable conversation.   Jason Hull (22:30) Yeah, it was at least a year ago when AI was   starting to just sort of peak, you know, come up on everybody's radar. I gave my team, heard of, saw Alex Hormozi like give his team the task of like trying to replace themselves with AI. And so I said that to my team and several were so offended. They're like, you trying to replace us? I'm like, but that's reality. So I was like, try it. And I got some like.   of weak responses because they weren't really focused on it. But now I think everybody can see like this is coming and nobody thought that the most expensive jobs would be the first thing to be going. Lawyers, like doctors, like a lot of this a lot of the data, the research, the stuff that takes a lot of knowledge. It's hard to beat something that can pull in everything, you know, and and then really all these specialists that are so specialized in things, they're   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (23:05) No, no one saw that coming.   Jason Hull (23:23) you know, AI is probably going to eat their lunch and then, you know, and then like really high level copywriting jobs, high level graphic design work, like all of this also. And so it really is becoming a future in which those that are the most creative in thought and how to leverage AI, the creators, and they're going to be AI creators that can leverage AI and know what tools.   are available and they're staying up on that. Those are going to be the ones that are the most valuable team members because they have access to infinite knowledge. Knowledge is no longer a super valuable resource. It's, and you can just get it. We've got the internet, there's tons of it out there, but the people that can figure out how do I isolate what knowledge is needed right now? How do I leverage AI to like figure it out? How do I, you know, then feed it into some sort of agentic system or create some sort of agent or some sort of chat or prompt or rule to like,   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (24:00) Mm-hmm.   Jason Hull (24:19) you know, get the output that I need. These are the people that are going to, you know, be leading the way. And so it's really interesting.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (24:27) Yeah, the creators.   I've been looking at it. we've been using Working Genius internally as well as for hiring. So if you guys that are listening aren't familiar with it, it's created by Patrick Lancioni who wrote like, what is it? ⁓ Amazing books. was, shoot. Anyway, Patrick Lancioni is an amazing, amazing author, wrote some amazing books.   Jason Hull (24:41) He's written a bunch of good books.   That's that from right here.   I've got, where are they? Let's see.   Oh, he wrote The Motive, Getting Naked, The Ideal Team Player, Five Dysfunctions of a Team, Death by Meeting. Yeah, he's got some great books.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (24:50) The advantage is one of them, but there's like...   by this function as a team, yeah.   Yeah, FIDAS   function seems huge, huge one, right? So he wrote working genius. And working genius breaks down to six letters, right? Widget, which is coincidental, I suppose. So what it stands for is wondering, inventor, galvanizer, discerning, enabler, and tenacity. And so most people are two of them as an energy.   It gives you energy, two of them are like it drains you, right? So like I don't like doing work. So T and E is just that for me, right? But I do like to invent and I like to discern. And then Ian likes to invent and likes to galvanize. But the key here is we're both inventors according to Working Genius. And I think right now in this world with AI, it's going to be the people that have the W, the wondering, the inventiveness. I think those are the two they're going to do the most.   Jason Hull (25:30) you   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (25:49) the most well in this new world because we can automate a lot of other things. We can automate the mundane tasks. That's what the agents are for. So it'll be interesting. AI can discern to some degree. It can't galvanize. So we still need someone to lead the charge and get everyone to storm the.   Jason Hull (26:00) Mm.   Thank   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (26:13) stormed enemy territory. But yeah, I think to your point, the creators, I look at it as everyone that's got the wondering and inventiveness is gonna do really well on this new AI world.   Jason Hull (26:25) Okay, yeah. Those things sound fun to me. That sounds like way more fun to be spending my time on doing those kind of things than most anything else you do in business. And I love that you said, you know, figuring out which things are kind of your, give you energy or take away your energy. So one of the things we have our clients do is we give them a time study that we've created that.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (26:32) Yeah.   Mm-hmm.   Jason Hull (26:49) They do a time study for like two weeks and they track which things are plus signs or which things are minus signs. Just to figure out, because the easiest way I can get them towards more output or towards more joy or more fulfillment in their business or more freedom or offloading the right stuff is just to figure out which things are their minus signs and which things are tactical so we can get those off their plates so they're focused more on the strategic things and the plus signs, which usually are connected. So for entrepreneurs, yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (26:54) Huge.   Mm-hmm.   Jason Hull (27:17) And so, yeah, I think that's going to be the powerful thing is that if people can become conscious of the things that are draining them, then you can just ask the question. You can go ask AI the question, how do I get rid of this? How do get this off my plate? Give me some really good ideas. Yeah. And so we've got this magical thing that it's like we've got the magic genie of answers that can just give us any answer to anything at any time. But you have to ask good questions.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (27:30) All right. It really is that simple these days.   You have to ask good questions, and then the thing that you have to make sure, and I don't know how to do this, is to make sure you don't give up your critical thinking abilities. I think that that muscle is going to atrophy pretty fast in this new world. The ability to actually ask good questions and then filter, is that actually a good answer? Does that make sense? Or are we just accepting the answers? Because you can see, if you just accept things, if you just accept data without questioning it,   Jason Hull (27:56) Mm.   Yeah, it'd be pretty destructive.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (28:08) you're going to atrophy pretty fast, I think, of your critical thinking skills.   Jason Hull (28:11) Yeah. And that's where you hear the horror stories of AI, like people killing themselves because AI told them to, know, stuff like this, where they're just like, they think AI is like, becomes some sort of superpower when it's really just reflecting them. Yeah. It's just reflecting them and their, you know, psychoses, I guess. So I think, yeah, you know, I've noticed that, yeah, sometimes chat GPT, for example, can be very agreeable.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (28:17) Yeah.   It's not all knowing all powerful, it just appears that way.   Yeah, sad.   Jason Hull (28:36) It's like, that's brilliant. You're the best. Like it's giving you compliments. like, yeah. You know, but the reality is, yeah, you have to ask it to challenge you. And you have to like say, what are the flaws in this or what evaluate or, and so I'll have the one AI tool evaluate what another AI tool gives me. I'll say, which of these ideas should I actually do to my offer document or what should I change or what should I improve and which things are not a good idea?   And it rates them for me. Like Claude will be like, this is like, these are the ones you should do. These ones maybe, and these ones definitely don't. I would recommend these. And I'm like, cool, do that. Right? And so, yeah. And so I think we have to, we have to have a brain that's creative enough to see the potential problems and to ask the right questions and to challenge things. because yeah, otherwise you may just   be led down a rabbit hole of your own self-reflection, that's a blind spot.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (29:37) Mm-hmm. It's the same dangers we see with TikTok. It just sends you down the wrong rabbit holes.   Jason Hull (29:43) Right. Because the algorithm is just giving you more of what you look at. you're like, man, I'm really, it's like, you know, that prurient interest where you just can't stop looking at the car crashes that are driving, you know, driving by. then the algorithm's like, cool, they want to see more car crashes. And you're like, wait, why is this awful? Yeah. So yeah, that's, that's, that's the difference between AI and real life. so, you talk about creating a self-managing sales team.   What the self-managing sales team because having managing a sales team is pain in the ass.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (30:16) Yeah, so the self-managing sales team, we're using AI to power it. So it still requires a person to actually care about the other salespeople, right? So the big thing is like, what are you meeting with them? Are you finding out what's important to them? What is their big, hairy, audacious goal, right? So that's the first and foremost. We've got to figure out what their big, hairy, audacious goals are. Then we've got to quantify it. How much money do you actually need to make to accomplish that, right? And then we reverse the math, which isn't new, but   Jason Hull (30:17) They can't.   Mm-hmm.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (30:46) The newer wrinkle here is like we got to tie it to the big hair audacious goal. And then we'd look at, right, how many transactions do you need to close? Okay. And then if we need to close as many transactions in the year, then in real estate, how many contracts do we need to go under in order to have that many closings? Right? Because unfortunately it's not a one-to-one. So then how many contracts we have, then how many appointments do we need to run per week to hit that many?   Jason Hull (30:54) Hmm.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (31:15) closings per month. And then we work into how many conversations do we need to have per week to have that many appointments per week. And then in order to have, then we figure out how many conversations we need to have per day. And we back it all the way up, right? And then.   Jason Hull (31:30) So conversations   to appointments to contracts to transactions to hit the B-Hack. Okay, right.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (31:36) Yeah, yes.   It has to work that way. And the sales manager or business owner needs to care about their people to actually care about those goals. Because if you don't care about those goals alongside of them, none of this matters. You got to care about your salespeople, But once they care about our salespeople, now we can use AI to track and hold them accountable to their metrics. And so one of the things that we have is if anyone's off, we can report this.   And you can do this with VA's and systems and this and that. The things that we've added recently with AI is that in our organization, after every single sales call, AI does a call review. And after it does a call review, it pushes it into Google Chat. So we use Google Chat, you can use Slack, you can use Teams, but we use Google Chat. It pushes into Google Chat where all the salespeople are in. And so it says, hey, Steve on this call got a 51 out of 100.   Everyone can see it. There's no hiding. Yeah, and so then after it gives me that review, it gives me the score, it gives me all the reasons why, I need to, as a salesperson, go in there and comment on it. I agree with this, I disagree with this, here's my takeaway from it, here's what I'm gonna work on. So, that's a super tight feedback loop. Now, instead of a call review that happens maybe once a week, or maybe once a month, or never,   Jason Hull (32:33) Yeah,   Right. Yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (32:58) our sales guys are being coached in the moment where they're at in real time. Right? So they're self-managed because they have to go and respond to it. And here's the other thing too, like marketing has always been, or marketing should be accountable. you run your business right, we should know, hey, we spent our X dollars on this. How many leads did we get? How many contracts did we get? What was the revenue that came from this lead source for this marketing channel? What is the return on investment or return on ad spend?   Jason Hull (33:03) Yeah, that's great.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (33:25) We can be pretty good with marketing if we care. Accounting, it's really easy to tell when accounting is screwed up. It didn't zero out. Pretty easy to, you know, black and white accounting. Sales has always been leads went in and there's this black box and then contracts came out. We've eliminated that black box, right? Everyone's accountable to everyone else. So if you're in there,   Jason Hull (33:50) Yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (33:51) And you can see, like you're putting up 50s over and over again out of 100, either you're going to self-select out or you're going to get better. But there's nowhere safe to hide in our sales company anymore. And that's how we created a self-managing sales team. Everyone can hold everyone else accountable. Jason can call Steve out, Steve can call Jason out. Right? So that's how we've had that. And then on top of that, our AI tool also has trends. So we can say like, hey, in the last seven days, here's where Jason's really struggling. Coach him on this. Or in the last 30 days, right? So we have one guy.   His struggle consistently is isolating the real objection. That's one of our guys. The other guy, his challenge consistently is not letting a difficult statement just sit there and just ruminate for like five seconds. We'll all agree, yeah, we gotta let it sit there. So those are two different cells, guys, we have two different challenges, but I know that because   Jason Hull (34:36) Right, he jumps in and has to solve it too quick.   Right.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (34:47) every single call is being reviewed. And that's how we build our self-managed Excel team.   Jason Hull (34:51) Wow, yeah, it's really cool. I love the idea of, normally in the past, historically, I wasn't really a big fan of BHAGs, like big hairy audacious goals, because it was unrealistic, I thought. But I recently was in Mexico and I was hanging out with Ben Hardy. And he wrote this amazing new book called The Science of Scaling. And he talks about the importance of having impossible goals. And unless the goal is impossible, because he says if a goal is realistic,   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (35:13) Mm-hmm.   Jason Hull (35:17) then that means basically you're operating on your current limited level of thinking and your brain has nothing to work on. And as good as AI is, our brain really is like a quantum computer. It's like this masterful supercomputer that can create whole worlds. Our unconscious mind can do amazing things in the background. But unless we give our brain impossible goals to achieve, our brain doesn't even work to formulate new paths or new ways of thinking. It gets us out of our current prison of thinking. And so   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (35:24) Nothing to strive for.   Jason Hull (35:45) This is where I think having really big impossible goals gives you a completely different path than a linear realistic goal. so, you know, I think what I've noticed with AI, and you can test this with AI, like just say, if I want to get from zero to a thousand Instagram followers in a year, what would be my path? And it's gonna give you a pretty predictable linear path. But if you say, how do I get to a million followers in a month, for example?   super impossible, how could that be possible? You're gonna get a completely different path, right? And so the path, you know, having better goals or unrealistic or impossible goals allows your brain in the background to come up with new ideas. So I came back from Mexico, I was like, how could it close 100 deals in a month instead of 10? It's impossible. How could I do that? And I figured it out. It took me a week and a half, my brain just figured it out. I'm like, I have to...   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (36:18) True. Yeah.   Jason Hull (36:43) cancel 60 to 70 % of my calls. Anyone like doesn't confirm I have to get them off my plate. I have to have my setters feed them through a different funnel. And so we have a slow lane, middle lane, and I'm fast lane. I would have to, so we re-engineered our entire sales process and I did it in like a day. I did it in a day, maybe two. And I rebuilt everything because I had to create a completely different path in how we were doing it. Cause my current thinking,   well, my previous level of thinking realistic in order to get my company to be at X millions of dollars, you know, bigger than it is now. I was like, I'm going to have to hire like, it was a linear path. I'm like, I'm doing X. I'm going to have to hire 10 closers, 30 setters. And like it was, yeah. And I'm going to have to build this team. And I didn't even want to do it because that sounded so uncomfortable. And now we closed just about as many deals last month as we did the month before, but   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (37:27) Yeah.   Jason Hull (37:39) our sales calls, at least for me, were like a tiny, tiny fraction because we had made the process so much more efficient because without really, you know, impossible goals, we optimize for the wrong things. And I was optimizing for just increasing this linear difficult path instead of looking at how could I eliminate 90 % of the calls and still have the same close rate? That's a completely different path, right?   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (37:45) Yeah.   Yeah, well, I think you're asking your previous questions with the brand you had, right? And so we need to ask different questions with a different, with, yeah.   Jason Hull (38:12) length, which was a brain that was focused on reality. And reality kept   me stuck in the same place for years. And so now I see a path where we can get much larger, much quicker, but it's because I changed my brain's focus into the playground of impossible goals instead of looking at realistic goals, which usually are just a punishment tool that we measure ourselves by.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (38:34) And it's uninspiring.   We're not getting out of bed for realistic goals. And also, in sales, like,   We get punched in the mouth all day every day. Why would you not want to build your dream life? If we're going to do the difficult things, it should be incredibly rewarding.   Jason Hull (38:44) Ahem.   Yeah. Yeah, we get a lot of people coming into the property management industry from the real estate industry, because they're tired of the hunt and chase of deals and getting punched in the mouth. They're like, how do I build a residual income subscription model business that scales and grows, that's systemizable and do that. But a lot of our clients have a brokerage and they have property management, like most of them. They do both. But the   And once the property management business is healthy, it feeds them plenty of real estate deals because investors are always doing deals.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (39:23) Right. Yeah.   Jason Hull (39:24) So anyway, I know, Steve, maybe we should hang out later and come up with some cool ideas together. But yeah, this is really fun stuff to chat about. you know, this probably we could talk about AI probably all day. It's like a big focus of mine right now as well. I'm just super geeking out on it. What, you know, what maybe   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (39:30) Absolutely, I'm game for it.   Yeah, I bet.   Jason Hull (39:47) Big takeaway, would you like everybody to get from listening to this podcast episode and then how could people, who are you looking for to connect with objection proof? And, cause I'm sure some of my audience are your audience as well. And, and how can they get in touch with you?   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (40:03) Yeah, so I think the big takeaway, I mean, we already beaten it quite a bit, but I just want to really emphasize, this is a pivotal moment in time. This is like the dot com era, right? This is like when things started getting online. There are going be a handful of people that are going to make a stupid amount of money in this period of time. And so the same question I always ask is, why not you? Right?   Jason Hull (40:25) Yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (40:26) So like if you're afraid just start because the reality is like AI will coach you on how to use AI. So just start. I'll say that and then you know the if someone wants to check out what we do I have a URL objectionproof.ai you can upload any sales call through text. It's gonna be a text file. It can be transcription. It can be WAV, M4A, MP3, whatever you can upload it. There's no charge you can use as many times you want. My team hates when I say that but   You upload it for free and it will evaluate your sales call, will email you the results. That's a free tool we have. Also, if anyone wanted to role play with our boss, you can text roleplay, that's one word, to the phone number 33777. And if anyone wants to check out our lead manager, you can text AI space caller, AI caller, to the same number 33777. Again, both of those are free. We're not charging anything for those.   It really is just a demonstration. All three are real demonstration of our actual product in action. And then we give that for free. Now you are going to have to talk to someone on my team. But you'll hear what our salespeople sound like as well. Or you can just ignore it. Either way is fine. But if nothing else, just check it out because you can see the direction we're heading. look, I've heard people say this over and over again. I always kind of like roll my eyes when they say it. But it's still true.   Jason Hull (41:34) Yeah.   Steve Trang ObjectionProof.ai (41:47) The version of AI today is the worst version you'll ever deal with. Because it's only getting better.   Jason Hull (41:51) Yeah.   Yeah, and it's crazy. It's really insane how quick things are changing. It's just speeding up faster and faster. So, all right, well, Steve, great having you on the show. Appreciate you hanging out with me. Those of you watching, if you are a property management business owner, you've ever felt stuck or stagnant, you want to take your property management business to the next level, reach out to us at doorgrow.com. We can help.   Also join our free Facebook community just for property management business owners at doorgrowclub.com. And if you found this even a little bit helpful, don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review. We'd really appreciate it. And until next time, remember the slowest path to growth is to do it alone. So let's grow together and guess with AI. Bye everyone.

Jeremy Miner sits down with ex-CIA officer Andrew Bustamante to reveal the truth about surveillance, persuasion, and influence under pressure. In this live Q&A, Andrew shares what it feels like to escape a hostile country, and how emotional regulation, mirroring, and tactical communication build trust in both espionage and sales. You'll also learn why mastery comes from action, not study, and how to spot manipulation traits in leadership. Watch until the end, you'll walk away with tools you can use in business, negotiations, and everyday conversations. Chapters: (00:00) The Most Dangerous Mission  (01:12) Moral Flexibility vs Immorality  (02:35) Do Masks Really Work? (03:32) How Spies Check Body Language  (05:33) Can Sales Ever Truly Be Mastered? (07:16) How to Spot Manipulation and Counter-Tradecraft (09:03) Mastery Through Execution, Not Endless Study (09:59) Identifying Psychopathic Traits in Corporate Leaders Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-637-2944 The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Me Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/⁨@JeremyMinerPodcast⁩   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Andrew Bustamante Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/45htccD Read Andrew's CIA book Shadow Cell:  https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook Follow Andy on YouTube:  https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/ Support Andy's sponsor Axolt Brain:  https://axoltbrain.com/andy Listen to the EverydaySpy Podcast:  https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast

Former CIA intelligence officer Andrew Bustamante joins Jeremy Miner to reveal spy tradecraft, persuasion secrets, and the hidden psychology of influence. A U.S. Air Force veteran turned CIA officer and founder of EverydaySpy, Andrew has built a global platform teaching intelligence techniques for business, leadership, and everyday life. In this episode, Andrew takes you inside nuclear bunkers, covert disguises, and the Shadow Cell operation the CIA tried to block. He breaks down the three lives every human hides (public, private, secret), how spies win compliance without pressure, and why the Agency fought to keep his book classified. You'll hear tradecraft never before shared publicly and how you can use it to sell, influence, and connect on a deeper level.  Chapters (00:00) From Air Force Bunkers to CIA Recruitment (09:26) Shadow Cell: The Book Fight & the CIA Mole (15:45) Public, Private & Secret Lives: The Persuasion Playbook (19:46) Sensemaking & Mirroring: Creating Compliance (26:07) Tonality, Baselines & Emotional Connection (43:35) Disguises & Cleansing Routes: Real Spy Tradecraft (54:47) AI, Surveillance & The Future of Persuasion (01:02:40) EverydaySpy: Where to Learn More  Curious how to apply this to your sales strategy? Text me directly at 480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

Consistency builds trust. Perfectionism kills progress. In this episode, Jeremy Miner sits down with Matt Gottesman, 3x founder, top-ranked podcaster, and creator of The Niche Is You®, to unpack the real psychology of building a brand that actually lasts. Matt shares how to resist chasing trends, why devotion beats discipline, and the simple shifts that will keep your audience loyal for years. Whether you're a creator, entrepreneur, or sales professional, this conversation will help you align your work with who you really are and build something people can trust. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (05:24) Why Consistency Builds Trust and Authority (09:42) Stop Trying to Be the Next Someone Else (15:09) Evolving Without Losing Your Core Identity (17:29) Devotion vs Discipline in Mastery (26:05) Authenticity, Trust, and Building in Public (39:28) Clarity, Decisions, and Trusting Yourself

Sales and dating may seem like two different worlds, but they share the same foundation: trust, alignment, and emotional intelligence. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, I sit down with Veronika Szumska a high-ticket sales professional, dating and mindset coach, and creator of a fast-growing movement around traditional values. Veronika shares how mastering energy, self-worth, and soft power has helped her close multi-million-dollar real estate deals and guide high-performing men and women toward more fulfilling relationships. We dive into why embracing femininity is actually a superpower in sales, how tonality builds trust faster than any script, and what languages, mindset shifts, and emotional clarity can do for your career. If you've ever struggled with confidence, building urgency, or balancing ambition with genuine connection, this conversation will give you the exact insights you need to start showing up with more certainty, alignment, and influence in both business and life. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (00:53) Veronika's journey into high-ticket sales at 21 (02:25) The power of speaking multiple languages in sales (07:54) Femininity as a sales superpower (10:27) Jeremy on mastering the five core tonalities (15:03) How trust, self-worth, and attraction connect sales & dating (18:23) Traditional values, culture shock & starting a movement (23:15) Balancing career ambition with feminine energy (26:21) Self-worth as the foundation for sales success (31:06) Building true confidence & identity in dating and sales (33:33) Establishing authority with high-net-worth clients (36:38) Selling lifestyle and results  not just products (42:08) Veronica's next big project & where to follow her

Now on Spotify Video! After facing early career setbacks and limited growth opportunities in corporate, Hala Taha turned to LinkedIn and podcasting to build her personal brand. By mastering content marketing and audience engagement, she rose to become a top LinkedIn influencer and podcast host, transforming her side hustle into a thriving media empire. In this episode, Hala joins Jeremy Miner on the Next Level Podcast to share how to leverage podcasting and LinkedIn for brand building, lead generation, and business growth. In this episode, Jeremy and Hala will discuss: (00:00) Introduction (01:59) Storytelling Tips to Engage Your Audience (04:21) Building a Podcast Business from Scratch (09:32) Winning Marketing Tips for Podcast Growth (16:29) How to Scale a Media Business (19:35) LinkedIn Content Strategies for Lead Generation (32:05) Advanced LinkedIn Monetization Strategies Hala Taha is the host of Young and Profiting, a top 10 business and entrepreneurship podcast on Apple and Spotify. She's the founder and CEO of YAP Media, an award-winning social media and podcast agency, as well as the YAP Media Network, where she helps renowned podcasters like Jenna Kutcher, Neil Patel, and Russell Brunson grow and monetize their shows. With her business on track to hit eight figures in 2025, Hala stands out as a leading creator-entrepreneur. Sponsored By: Shopify - Start your $1/month trial at Shopify.com/profitingIndeed - Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/PROFITINGOpenPhone - Get 20% off your first 6 months at OpenPhone.com/profitingAirbnb - Find a co-host at airbnb.com/hostMercury - Streamline your banking and finances in one place. Learn more at ⁠⁠mercury.com/profiting⁠⁠Policy Genius - Secure your family's future with Policygenius. Head to policygenius.com/profitingFramer - Launch your site for free at Framer.com, and use code PROFITING Resources Mentioned: Hala's Podcast, Young and Profiting: bit.ly/_YAP-apple  Hala's LinkedIn Masterclass: yapmedia.io/course  Next Level Podcast by Jeremy Miner: bit.ly/NLP-apple  Active Deals - youngandprofiting.com/deals  Key YAP Links Reviews - ratethispodcast.com/yap YouTube - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala/ Social + Podcast Services: yapmedia.com Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com/episodes-new  Entrepreneurship, Entrepreneurship Podcast, Business, Business Podcast, Self Improvement, Self-Improvement, Personal Development, Starting a Business, Strategy, Investing, Sales, Selling, Psychology, Productivity, Entrepreneurs, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Technology, Marketing, Negotiation, Money, Finance, Side Hustle, Startup, Mental Health, Career, Leadership, Mindset, Health, Growth Mindset, SEO, E-commerce, Instagram, Social Media, Digital Marketing, Content Creator, Advertising, Social Media Marketing, Communication, Video Marketing, Social Proof, Marketing Trends, Influencer Marketing, Digital Trends, Online Marketing, Marketing Podcast

In this episode, I sit down with Paul Hutchinson —entrepreneur, investor, undercover operative, and executive producer of Sound of Freedom — to uncover the real stories behind the film and the mindset shift that led him from building a $20B fund to rescuing over 7,000 trafficked children across the globe. This isn't just a conversation about child trafficking. It's about transformation; how the skills of persuasion, tonality, and emotional intelligence can be used not just to sell, but to liberate. Paul reveals how his ability to influence in high-stakes negotiations saved lives and how changing the man in the mirror is what really changes the world. If you're a sales professional, entrepreneur, or leader who wants to do more with your influence than just close deals, this episode will challenge and inspire you on a whole new level.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (03:14) Why a Billionaire Risks His Life to Save Kids (08:25) The Real Story Behind Sound of Freedom (14:31) The Shocking Truth About Human Traffickers (19:19) How Persuasion Saved Dozens of Lives (26:05) The Negotiation That Led to 124 Children Being Rescued (33:08) The Sound of Freedom: What Paul Heard That Changed Everything (37:19) From Ego to Healing: The Inner Work Behind the Mission (42:18) Plant Medicine, God, and Rebuilding the Man in the Mirror (47:48) The Power of Influence: Persuasion Beyond Sales (51:02) Transparency, Trust, and What Most Salespeople Get Wrong (54:05) Where to Find the Book and Support the Mission   Get The Sound of Freedom Book: ⁠https://soundoffreedombook.com⁠ Connect With Paul Hutchinson Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/liberating.humanity⁠ YouTube: ⁨⁠https://youtube.com/@Liberatinghumanity⁩ ⁠  

This week on Spaghetti on the Wall episode 262, we're joined by Mason Church, a high-performance fractional sales manager who's helped generate over $6 million in high-ticket sales and worked with elite names like Jeremy Miner and Sarah Turner. Mason helps coaches and consultants scale their sales teams with systems, mindset shifts, and AI-powered strategy—without sacrificing peace.He's got stories that'll blow your mind (wait ‘til you hear about Cabo) and insights that'll change how you think about sales, leadership, and success.

You want to close more deals, lead better, and scale faster? Then you need to hear the answers in this private Q&A. After the live podcast, Brad Lea and I stuck around to go deeper with a small group of entrepreneurs. We covered how to influence belief shifts, earn trust with high-level players, stay grounded with the right non-negotiables, and lock in on the path to mastery especially when you're just starting out or stuck. No fluff. Just real strategy from two people who've been in the trenches. Chapters (00:00) How do you shift someone's identity to help them believe in transformation? (02:51) How do you build relationships with people outside your network without being transactional? (04:15) What are your personal and business non-negotiables? (05:18) Should you double down on your strengths or change your behavior? (06:43) How do you choose the one thing to master and go all in? Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-637-2944 The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Me Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 Connect with Brad Lea YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@THEREALBRADLEA   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealbradlea

Brad Lea built LightSpeed VT into one of the most-used training platforms in the world, powering teams for Tony Robbins, Grant Cardone, and more. In this conversation with Jeremy Miner, he opens up about the moments that shaped him... from a near-death experience with his daughter to the painful leadership lessons that held him back for years. They get into scaling mistakes, personal branding myths, and why most people posting online will never convert followers into customers. If you're building a business, managing a team, or trying to get your message to land, this episode will hit. Chapters (00:00) What luck really means in business (02:00) Why Brad built his brand around rhinos (04:46) The day Brad's daughter nearly drowned (11:05) How that moment shifted his mindset (12:36) The hardest part of scaling LightSpeed VT (17:03) Real training vs exposure (and why most fail) (24:53) Why most content doesn't convert (32:00) Like vs trust: what actually drives sales (41:16) How to build trust with your audience (47:06) The 80/20 rule of monetizable content (54:14) Identity, self-worth, and what kills momentum (01:01:33) The power of emotional energy in leadership (01:11:02) Mindset, habits, and the real formula for growth

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sat down with Jeremy Miner, founder of 7th Level and one of the sharpest sales minds I've ever met. His sales framework isn't about hype or pressure. It's about getting prospects to lower their guard, open up, and actually sell themselves. In our discussion, we go deep into how to eliminate resistance during the sales process… Especially for high-ticket offers. Jeremy breaks down the psychology of selling, why old-school techniques don't work anymore, and how to ask the kind of questions that shift the dynamic completely. We even dive into why he named his company 7th Level… And the spiritual meaning behind it. In scripture, the number 7 is tied to completion and divine order. Jeremy believes true persuasion happens at that level: When you stop trying to push and instead help people come to their own inspired decisions. Whether you're taking calls, closing from stage, or building funnels that sell on autopilot, this conversation will completely reframe how you think about sales. Key Highlights: Why most sales resistance is triggered in the first few seconds of a call The neuroscience behind how people make buying decisions How to create disarming conversations that get prospects to sell themselves Jeremy's three-step question framework that takes people from curious to closed The big mistake most entrepreneurs make when pitching their offer Why selling should feel collaborative - not confrontational How to guide people to their own conclusions instead of pushing them to buy The one phrase that instantly lowers sales resistance on any call Jeremy's approach is like the opposite of everything you've been told about “hard closing.” It's subtle, strategic, and literally based on how Christ himself taught and persuaded when he was on earth… With questions! So cool!  If you've ever struggled with sales, either for yourself or your team, you're going to want to listen to this one twice. This episode is packed with practical takeaways you can apply immediately to start closing more deals with less effort and more integrity. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://sellingonline.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clickfunnels.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Special thanks to our sponsors: NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/secrets⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! Northwest Registered Agent: Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠northwestregisteredagent.com/russell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to start your business with Northwest Registered Agent. LinkedIn Marketing Solutions: Get a $100 credit on your next campaign at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn.com/CLICKS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RocketMoney.com/RUSSELL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/clicks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

➡️ Join 321,000 people who read my free weekly newsletter: https://newsletter.scottdclary.com➡️ Like The Podcast? Leave A Rating: https://ratethispodcast.com/successstoryJeremy Miner is a globally renowned sales trainer and founder of 7th Level, a sales training company that has coached over 200,000 professionals across 40+ countries. He's the creator of Neuro-Emotional Persuasion Questioning (NEPQ), a method rooted in behavioral science that helps salespeople 3x to 10x their close rates. During his 17-year career in direct sales, Jeremy earned multiple seven-figure commissions and ranked among the top 1% of over 100 million salespeople worldwide. His work has been featured in Forbes, Entrepreneur, USA Today, and the Wall Street Journal.➡️ Show Linkshttps://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/JeremyMiner/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ ➡️ Podcast SponsorsHubspot - https://hubspot.com/ Cornbread Hemp - https://cornbreadhemp.com/success (Code: Success)iDigress Podcast - https://idigress.show Northwest Registered Agent - https://northwestregisteredagent.com/success Superhero Leadership Podcast - https://www.petercuneo.com/podcast NetSuite — https://netsuite.com/scottclary/ Indeed - https://indeed.com/clary➡️ Talking Points00:00 – Intro01:28 – Jeremy's Sales Journey12:08 – Why Old Sales Tactics Fail17:58 – Mastering 5 Sales Tones21:21 – Psychology Behind the Close23:41 – Sponsor Break25:38 – Winning Cold Calls Instantly40:17 – Sales Is a Learnable Skill46:05 – Sponsor Break47:43 – How to Actually Learn Sales56:28 – Youth vs Experience in Sales58:48 – Sales Is Everywhere1:01:15 – When “No” Really Means No1:05:58 – Zoom Sales Mistakes1:17:47 – Jeremy's #1 Life LessonSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

How do you bounce back from jail, rock bottom, and losing everything? In this raw and transformative episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Vikram Deol, a former top-producing real estate agent turned sales mentor and mindset coach, who shares how he turned personal crisis into powerful transformation. After building a $250M real estate portfolio and then losing it all—plus 30 days in jail—Vikram rebuilt his life and business through vulnerability, inner work, and creating TRIS, his signature Trust-Rapport-Influence-Sales framework that's now used by top-performing agents and teams around the world.

If you've ever wondered what really drives elite performance in sales—and life—this is the episode to watch. Jeremy Miner flips the mic and gets interviewed on his own show, revealing the exact mindset, habits, and experiences that took him from broke teenager to one of the top-ranked salespeople in the world. You'll get never-before-heard stories, his raw perspective on leadership, legacy, AI, and what he actually thinks of haters, branding, and his competitors. This episode is loaded with tactical gems, emotional insights, and powerful reflections that will rewire how you think about selling, success, and personal growth. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:45) The "Brand Box" and Why Image Matters (06:17) Becoming a Sales Legend and Building Seventh Level (13:40) Selling $1.1M in 90 Minutes + Speaking Strategy (16:03) The 4 Types of Salespeople and the Path to Mastery (24:09) Sales Impact on Family, Legacy, and Fulfillment (29:50) The AI Jeremy Miner: Next-Gen Sales Training (36:03) The Mission Behind Seventh Level (42:43) Life Happens For You: Lessons in Growth (52:18) The Chip That Drove Jeremy + The Transition to Impact (56:23) Experience Over Hype: Why Mastery Can't Be Faked (01:01:15) Pre-Order: Insurance Black Book of Questions

In this private Q&A, Jeremy Miner sits down with Russell Brunson to answer real questions from real entrepreneurs and sales professionals. From starting with zero audience to building identity-driven sales funnels, this is an unfiltered look at what actually works in today's market. Chapters (00:00) How do you sell to Gen Z men who feel lost or disconnected? (06:53) What would you do if you had $1K and no audience? (12:11) What's the most overlooked secret to building a loyal following? (13:03) How will AI change funnels and sales strategy? Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-637-2944 The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Me YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminerpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

Go behind closed doors with Tarek El Moussa and Jeremy Miner in this private live Q&A where they get real about business, investing, family, and mindset. Filmed in front of a small group of entrepreneurs, this raw conversation covers the hard lessons, the smart moves, and what it really takes to build wealth and stay grounded. Whether you're scaling a company or starting from scratch, this is the kind of access most people never get... until now. Chapters: (00:00) How would you start in real estate with no experience? (03:00) Should you invest in your friends' house flips? (05:37) What's the biggest lesson you learned as a dad and CEO? (06:44) How do you decide where to spend your time once everything's delegated? (09:45) How do you scale a business and hire the right people? (13:39) What's your 60-second masterclass on work ethic? (15:28) How can a young entrepreneur help people and make money? Are you in real estate and want to master the skills to sell?  Text "Real Estate" to 480-637-2944 The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Jeremy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 Connect with Tarek Website: https://www.therealtarekelmoussa.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealtarekelmoussa YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TarekElMoussaVideos   ​

Tarek El Moussa has flipped over 1,000 homes, starred in Flip or Flop and multiple HGTV series, and built a real estate brand seen by over 90 million viewers worldwide. But before the fame, he was door-knocking in 110° heat, living in a garage—and somehow pitching a TV show before he'd ever flipped a single house. In this unfiltered, live episode with Jeremy Miner, Tarek reveals what the cameras never captured: a near show cancellation, two cancer diagnoses, addiction, divorce, and the 90-day sprint that transformed everything. Filmed in front of a live studio audience, this conversation pulls back the curtain on one of HGTV's most iconic figures. This isn't just about success—it's about survival, reinvention, and the mindset it takes to defy the odds. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:19) The Door-to-Door Hustle (04:02) Tarek's Real Estate Wake-Up Call (07:10) The 90-Day Sprint (10:21) Making $300K from a Garage (12:25) The Escalade Mistake (20:11) Pitching HGTV with Zero Experience (25:18) Flip or Flop's First Pilot (30:21) Flip or Flop Almost Got Canceled (33:16) Cancer Found on TV (37:27) Quadrupling Deals Mid-Treatment (40:26) Addiction, Divorce, and Rock Bottom (44:55) Rebuilding with Humility (48:37) The Yacht That Changed Everything (52:45) The DM That Landed the Date

Nick Santonastasso was born with Hanhart syndrome and given less than a 30% chance to live. Today, he's a globally renowned speaker, best-selling author, and entrepreneur with over 4 million followers and a billion views.  In this episode of the Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner dives deep with Nick to uncover how he turned extreme adversity into unstoppable purpose. They explore the mindset rewiring required to rise above limitations, how to frame your story so it transforms others (not just inspires), and why identity not circumstances is the real barrier to success.  Nick shares how pain, rejection, and loss became his greatest assets, the lessons learned from mentors like Tony Robbins and Myron Golden, and what it takes to move people from the stage, in sales, or in life. This conversation goes beyond motivation—it's about mastery, mental resilience, and building a life that makes an impact. If you're an entrepreneur, leader, or just someone ready to stop playing small, this episode is your wake-up call. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:00) Turning a 30% Survival Rate Into Purpose (06:00) The Journey Into Public Speaking (08:45) How to Tell Stories That Transform (14:30) Mastering Communication and Sales from Stage (18:00) The Power of Identity and the Chip on Your Shoulder (20:15) Loss, Addiction, and the Drive to Serve (26:20) Why Everyone Should Share Their Story (27:40) The Real Reason to Pay for Mentorship (34:00) Rewriting Limiting Beliefs (37:30) Nick's Mission for the Future If you are not getting the results you want in your sales career and you know that it is time for you to take a stance for your life and career... Text "I'm Ready" to 480-637-2944 to book a call to see if and how we can potentially help you improve your skills to sell more. ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

From broke at 20 to leading a $25M sales team by 25, Wylie Hawkins breaks down the mindset, systems, and skills that built his agency and changed his life. In this episode of the Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, Wylie shares how he went from cold calling in a windowless office to building a 200+ person salesforce. You'll learn how he personally sold $1.2M in premiums, trained his team using Zoom-based sales pods, and created a culture rooted in faith, high standards, and servant leadership.  Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (03:18) From College Dropout to $25M (06:21) Learning Sales from Top Producers (09:54) A Death Claim That Changed Everything (12:05) Selling with Heart & Responsibility (14:27) Objections, Tonality & Humor in Closing (17:15) Wylie's Zoom Sales Floor System (21:34) Recruiting & Culture That Scales (27:32) Purpose-Driven Leadership (30:00) The Gold Mine System for New Reps (31:41) Managing All Personality Types (36:32) Training the Next Generation of Closers (44:46) Leading with Faith & Grit (54:56) About All-Star Life Group

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From the archive - This episode was originally recorded and published in 2022. Our interviews on Entrepreneurs On Fire are meant to be evergreen, and we do our best to confirm that all offers and URL's in these archive episodes are still relevant. During Jeremy Miner's 17 yr sales career he was recognized by the direct selling association as the number 45th highest earning producer out of more than 100 million salespeople, selling anything worldwide – his earnings as a commission-only salesperson were in the multiple 7-figures EVERY year. He's been featured in Forbes, USA Today, Inc, and others, and his new book The New Model of Selling - Selling to an Unsellable Generation, co-authored by Jerry Acuff, will be available in the spring of 2022. Top 3 Value Bombs 1. Having the right skill level will lead to success. 2. The salesperson triggers the fight or flight mode. 3. As an entrepreneur, you have to start to be the problem finder and problem solver. Start asking the right questions at the right time. Avoid being a product pusher. Join the community and get the help you need on how to sell - Sales Revolution Facebook Group Sponsor DeleteMe - Take control of your data and keep your private life private by signing up for DeleteMe. Get 20 percent off your DeleteMe plan when you go to JoinDeleteMe.com/eofire and use promo code EOFire at checkout. The Speaker Lab - Want to learn how to get booked and paid to speak. Go to EOFire.com/speaker to grab your spot for our LIVE training on May 28th, and learn how to get booked and paid to speak.

Morgan Nelson breaks down the neuroscience of goal setting and why most people get it wrong. In this episode of the Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, Morgan breaks down why most people fail to hit their goals—not because they lack capability, but because their brains are working against them.  Discover the science behind self-sabotage and why your mindset might be holding you back from success. Morgan shares how understanding neuroscience and NLP techniques can help you rewire your brain to overcome limiting beliefs, build unshakeable confidence, and take decisive action. If you're tired of setting goals that never seem to stick, this episode will show you how to break free from doubt, master effective goal setting, and unlock your potential. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:48) From Shy Kid to Network Marketing Success (03:03) Unlearning Limiting Beliefs (04:49) Shifting from Hustle to Smart Action (06:13) Financial Freedom & Life Abroad (08:37) NLP in Sales & Identity Shifts (14:19) Neuroscience of Goal Setting (19:48) High-Impact Activities & Planning Hacks (30:55) Building Confidence & State Management Whether you're an entrepreneur, sales professional, or anyone striving for more, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you think and perform at a higher level.

Michael Franzese reveals the untold secrets of the mob and how he turned a life of crime into a powerful story of redemption and success. In this episode of the Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, Michael shares how he went from feared mob boss to respected entrepreneur and motivational speaker. As the son of a notorious crime figure, he was drawn into organized crime, mastering negotiation, loyalty, and strategy to survive. After prison changed his life, he embraced spirituality and found a new purpose using the hard-earned lessons from his past to build a successful business and inspire others. Today, Michael continues to make an impact through speaking, mentorship, and his own wine brand. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (04:50) Life With a Mafia Boss Father (13:00) Inside the Mob Initiation Ritual (17:15) Mob Negotiation Tactics That Apply to Business (21:30) Gasoline Tax Scam: The Mob's Billion-Dollar Hustle (27:30) CIA, the Mob, and the JFK Assassination (31:00) Negotiating with the Federal Government (37:15) Leaving the Mob (42:30) Finding Purpose After Crime (46:30) Mafia Myths Busted: What Hollywood Gets Wrong (50:03) Business Lessons from Organized Crime More From Michael Franzese Franzese Wine: https://franzesewine.com/ Michael's Community: https://michaelfranzese.com/Family/ Follow Michael on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@michaelfranzese⁩  

Taylor O'Hare has generated over $2.1 million in high-ticket sales as a remote appointment setter and closer. He has worked with some of the biggest names in the sales industry, including Jeremy Miner and his 7th Level sales training company. Currently, Taylor runs his own business focused on hiring, training, and managing top-tier setters. The episode explores Taylor's journey, the challenges he faced, and his insights into the sales industry.Hiring sales people? - get the SDR Interview Guide with exact questions to recognize TOP performers: https://sdrhire.com/sdr-interview-guide/Connect with Tayler on FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheTaylorOHareConnect with Stefan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefan-conic

Joe Nicolosi was this week's guest on Success Profiles Radio. He is the Founder of Starcade Capital and helps clients in all 50 states find funding to operate and expand their businesses, even if they are hard to fund. We discussed his pivot from working for other people to entrepreneurship, the benefits of solopreneurship, picking specific niches to offer funding to, and his daily process for getting better every day. In addition, we talked about what he has learned by studying people like Jeremy Miner and Dr. Joe Dispenza, the value of staying in your lane in business and sticking to what you are best at, staying top of mind wth clients who may work with him repeatedly, his favorite sources of leads, and why getting hung up on the interest rate for your loan isn't the best indicator of why a loan is good. You can subscribe and listen to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes, or you can hear it on Audible, Spotify, iHeart and Success Profiles Radio | Live Internet Talk Radio | Best Shows Podcasts

The EXACT Objection Handling Framework I Used To Earn $2.4MM/yr In Straight Commissions As A W-2 Sales Rep… Link ➡️: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Text me if you have any sales, persuasion or influence questions: +1-480-637-2944 In this fire-packed episode, Jeremy Miner drops a mind-blowing breakdown on how to master human influence WITHOUT buying into people's limiting stories. He reveals how to create certainty in your prospect's mind, and gives you the exact line to turn indecision into instant action. If you've ever heard “I need to think about it,” you NEED this. ✅ Resources: JOIN the Sales Revolution: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a "Clarity CALL": https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Me: Follow Jeremy Miner on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 Follow Jeremy Miner on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ Follow Jeremy Miner on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ ✅ SUBSCRIBE to My Podcast CLOSERS ARE LOSERS with Jeremy Miner: Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/closers-are-losers-with-jeremyminer/id1534365100 Subscribe and Review on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV?si=uMhsOBP4S_SBaHqAFp4EGg Subscribe and Review on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/closers-are-losers-with-jeremy-miner Subscribe and Review on Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/u/1/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9jbG9zZXJzYXJlbG9zZXJzLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz

The EXACT Objection Handling Framework I Used To Earn $2.4MM/yr In Straight Commissions As A W-2 Sales Rep Link ➡️: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Text me if you have any sales, persuasion, or influence questions: +1-480-637-2944 In this episode, Jeremy Miner dives deep with Douglas James, a traffic and sales expert, to discuss how AI is revolutionizing lead generation. Discover how cutting-edge technology helps businesses make smarter decisions faster and why your sales strategy might be leaving money on the table. If you're tired of wasting time with unqualified leads and want to scale your business, this episode is a must-watch! ✅ Resources: JOIN the Sales Revolution: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a "Clarity CALL": https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Me: Follow Jeremy Miner on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 Follow Jeremy Miner on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ Follow Jeremy Miner on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ ✅ SUBSCRIBE to My Podcast CLOSERS ARE LOSERS with Jeremy Miner: Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/closers-are-losers-with-jeremyminer/id1534365100 Subscribe and Review on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV?si=uMhsOBP4S_SBaHqAFp4EGg Subscribe and Review on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/closers-are-losers-with-jeremy-miner Subscribe and Review on Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/u/1/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9jbG9zZXJzYXJlbG9zZXJzLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz  

Mindset // 3 mindset shifts that separate closers from amateurs // How to develop unshakable focus //Jeremy Miner Link ➡️: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Text me if you have any sales, persuasion, or influence questions: +1-480-637-2944 In this jaw-dropping episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with none other than Green Beret, UFC fighter, entrepreneur, bestselling author, and tactical genius Tim Kennedy. From overcoming trauma in war zones to building 12 businesses from scratch, Tim unpacks the real secrets of mental toughness, discipline, and how to turn pain into power. Whether you're into military grit, entrepreneurship, or elite training, this is the episode that changes the game. ✅ Resources: JOIN the Sales Revolution: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a "Clarity CALL": https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Me: Follow Jeremy Miner on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 Follow Jeremy Miner on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ Follow Jeremy Miner on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ ✅ SUBSCRIBE to My Podcast CLOSERS ARE LOSERS with Jeremy Miner: Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/closers-are-losers-with-jeremyminer/id1534365100 Subscribe and Review on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV?si=uMhsOBP4S_SBaHqAFp4EGg Subscribe and Review on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/closers-are-losers-with-jeremy-miner Subscribe and Review on Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/u/1/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9jbG9zZXJzYXJlbG9zZXJzLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz CHAPTERS 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:03:51 - Lessons from Failure 00:07:41 - Becoming a Protector 00:11:31 - 9/11 Impact 00:16:33 - Survival Training 00:23:59 - Counterterrorism Operations 00:27:40 - Transition to UFC Fighting 00:31:31 - Special Forces Life 00:35:30 - Fight Details 00:40:06 - Mental Resilience 00:45:21 - Investigating Nazis 00:49:16 - Fourth Reich in Argentina 00:53:00 - Hitler's Escape Theories 01:06:40 - Live Training Experience 01:12:07 - Closing Thoughts #jeremyminer, #timkennedy, #highperformancehabits, #neuroemotionalpersuasionquestioning, #salestrainingjeremyminer, #highticketsales, #jeremyminerclosingtechniques, #jeremyminerlive, #alexhormozi, #bradlea, #danlok, #tonyrobbins, #myrongolden, #mentaltoughness, #whatmakesarealman, #alphamalemindset, #timkennedyexposestheonethingholdingmenbackfromgreatness, #theonethingholdingmenbackfromgreatness, #greatness, #timkennedyexposes #jeremyminernepq,

Most entrepreneurs are losing deals—not because of bad products, but because of bad sales strategy. In this conversation, sales expert Jeremy Miner breaks down the #1 mistake business owners make when trying to close clients—and branding expert Kap Chatfield reacts with real-time insights. You'll discover: Why traditional sales tactics don't work in today's market The simple mindset shift that changes everything How to sell without sounding “salesy” What top-performing entrepreneurs do differently Whether you're building a personal brand or scaling your sales team, this is a must-watch breakdown on modern sales psychology and persuasive branding. Subscribe for more content that helps entrepreneurs grow smarter, not harder.

Most salespeople think people don't buy because of objections. “I need to think about it.” “I'll talk to my spouse.” “It's too expensive.” But here's the truth: those are just stories—not the real reason behind lost sales. In this powerful episode, we break down the psychology behind emotional selling, influence, and how to get people to move—without pushing or convincing.  

How to Turn LinkedIn into a Lead Generation Machine Ever wondered how to transform LinkedIn into a nonstop lead generator—even if you're just starting out? This episode reveals insider strategies to optimize your profile, leverage LinkedIn's interest-based algorithms, and use DM funnels to skyrocket engagement. Discover how top podcast hosts and fast-growing businesses convert views into tangible revenue on LinkedIn!

Jeremy Miner dives deep into the qualities that make a world-class salesperson. Whether you're new to sales or looking to refine your skills, this episode is packed with valuable advice to help you become a top performer. ---Jeremy Miner is the founder and CEO of 7th Level, a global sales training company. He specializes in NEPQ (Neuro-Emotional Persuasion Questioning), a method that helps sales professionals close high-ticket deals by building trust and guiding prospects through the buying process. Jeremy trains sales teams worldwide to increase conversions and achieve long-term success.---Like this episode? Watch more like it

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Facial Expressions Control Tone: Your facial expressions influence your tone. For example, leaning in creates a concerned tone, while tilting your chin up can convey curiosity. Slow Down Your Questions: Asking questions too quickly leads to poor answers. Slow down the second half of your question to give prospects time to think and respond meaningfully. Master the Five Types of Tone: Use different tones—curious, confused, concerned, challenging, and playful—to guide conversations and elicit the right responses. Challenge Prospects with a Direct Tone: A challenging tone helps push prospects to take action, especially when addressing tough issues like low-quality leads. JEREMY'S PATH TO PRESIDENT'S CLUB: Founder @ 7th Level VP of Sales @ Pinnacle Security RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

Welcome to a new episode of Next Level Pros! In this episode, we have the opportunity to interview Jeremy Miner, an incredible businessman and sales training expert. Jeremy shares his journey from door-to-door sales to earning multiple seven-figure commissions, highlighting the pivotal role of tonality in his success. He also touches on the challenges of scaling a business, the importance of hiring for strengths, and the potential of a new recruiting and staffing division.  Apply to be on the show: https://forms.gle/hwDijQPFyKCEtHNs8  Highlights: "I think most sales people don't really understand the psychology behind how the brain actually makes decisions." "The biggest factor that took me from the jump between door to door to more B to B high level was mastering tonality." "I don't use selling as something that you do to someone. I believe it's something you do for someone."  "Everybody has a chip, just most people don't activate it."  Timestamps: 00:00 - The Importance of Understanding Sales Psychology 02:36 - Jeremy Miner's Background and Achievements 05:29 - Scaling a Business and Management Structure 07:49 - The Future Vision and Business Expansion 09:41 - The Meaning Behind Seventh Level 11:41 - Sales Opportunities and Skill Levels 14:16 - Mastering Tonality and Sales Techniques 18:19 - Jeremy's Sales Journey and Achievements 23:04 - The Role of Tonality in Sales 35:37 - Personal Motivations and Overcoming Challenges 40:44 - The Power of Activating Personal Chips Want me to teach you how to grow your business? Text me! 509-374-7554 Want access to more of my content? Click the link below for all of our latest updates and events! https://linktr.ee/nextlevelpros Want to be a guest on our show? Apply here!https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1YlkVBSluEKMTg4gehyUOHYvBratcxHV5rt3kiWTXNC4/viewform?edit_requested=true Watch my latest Podcast Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-level-pros/id1687030281 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1e0cL2vI1JAtQrojSOA7D2?si=95980cd4e55a437a YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelPros

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Facial Expressions Control Tone: Your facial expressions influence your tone. For example, leaning in creates a concerned tone, while tilting your chin up can convey curiosity. Slow Down Your Questions: Asking questions too quickly leads to poor answers. Slow down the second half of your question to give prospects time to think and respond meaningfully. Master the Five Types of Tone: Use different tones—curious, confused, concerned, challenging, and playful—to guide conversations and elicit the right responses. Challenge Prospects with a Direct Tone: A challenging tone helps push prospects to take action, especially when addressing tough issues like low-quality leads. JEREMY'S PATH TO PRESIDENT'S CLUB: - Founder @ 7th Level - VP of Sales @ Pinnacle Security RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

Join the Waste No Day! Facebook group: https://bit.ly/3xbqEj0 Follow Waste No Day on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3xlDLhD   Jeremy Miner is the Founder of 7th Level and the N.E.P.Q Sales Methodology. He was ranked as the 45th highest-earning producer globally, consistently earning seven figures annually as a commission-only sales rep. His company, 7th Level, was named the fastest-growing sales training company in the U.S. by Inc. Magazine and recognized globally by Selling Power. Jeremy's sales techniques are rooted in behavioral science and psychology, and he has contributed to numerous prestigious publications on sales and human behavior. In this episode, we talked about behavioral science in sales, tone and communication, emotional triggers in decision-making...

In this episode of The Wealthy Way, I sit down with sales master Jeremy Miner, and we dive deep into what's new with him and his business. Jeremy's been shaking things up, and we talk stats that'll blow your mind when it comes to scaling. We break down the strategies that'll help you get your prospects to drop their guard and open up.We discuss the fear of change and how you can help people overcome it, plus why your tone matters more than you think. Jeremy shares connection questions that engage prospects, and we talk about how to set the right expectations. If you've ever wondered when and how to handle objections—especially when the spouse is involved—Jeremy's got you covered.Later, Jeremy talks about recruiting 400,000 people and why he walked away from network marketing. We also dive into B2B vs. B2C sales, hiring the right people, and motivating your sales team. Whether it's remote work, managing turnover, or figuring out compensation for closers, Jeremy has insights that'll level up your business.Join us as we get into Jeremy's thoughts on the future of network marketing, business consulting, and the role of a CEO. If you're looking to learn how to become a better closer and build a high-performance sales team, this is the episode for you!---Secure your spot at the #1 conference for real estate, entrepreneurship, and social media here - https://www.wealthcon.org/Feeling lost as an entrepreneur or real estate investor? Get access to our community, coaching, courses, and events at Wealthy University https://wealthyuniversity.com/If you want to level up, text me at 725-444-5244! ---About Ryan Pineda: Ryan Pineda has been in the real estate industry since 2010 and has invested in over $100,000,000 of real estate. He has completed over 700 flips and wholesales, and he owns over 650 rental units. As an entrepreneur, he has founded seven different businesses that have generated 7-8 figures of revenue. Ryan has amassed over 2 million followers on social media and has generated over 1 billion views online. Starting as a minor league baseball player making less than $2,000 a month, Ryan is now worth over $100 million. He shares his experiences in building wealth and believes that anyone can change their life with real estate investing.

I've had the privilege of interviewing top sales trainers like Andy Elliott, Jeremy Miner, and Grant Cardone, but today, I'm sharing the exact 10-step method that drives success in my company.You're going to learn:

At his first sales job, Jeremy Miner sold home security systems door-to-door. But he soon saw that the company's traditional sales scripts were ineffective. So, he changed his approach to create curiosity. The result? Clients were more interested, less resistant, and more likely to buy. In this episode, Jeremy explains the neuroscience behind sales and breaks down his innovative Neuro-Emotional Persuasion Questioning (NEPQ) model, which helps prospects convince themselves to buy.  Jeremy Miner is the founder and CEO of 7th Level, a global sales training company. His Neuro-Emotional Persuasion Questioning (NEPQ) model uses psychology to help salespeople understand and influence customers to improve sales. In this episode, Hala and Jeremy will discuss: - The neuroscience of selling - The three modes of the NEPQ model - The power of language in sales conversations - How to get prospects to sell themselves  - How to trigger curiosity in prospects - Jeremy's effective follow-up script - The right questions to ask in sales calls - Uncovering problems through effective questioning - The importance of social media presence in sales  - How to avoid fight-or-flight responses - And other topics…  Jeremy Miner is the founder and CEO of 7th Level, a global sales training company known for its innovative approach to sales. His Neuro-Emotional Persuasion Questioning (NEPQ) model uses behavioral science and psychology to improve sales outcomes by understanding and influencing customer behavior. With over two decades of experience in sales, Jeremy has trained more than 100,000 salespeople across various industries. He is a top 1% income earner in direct sales and has consistently exceeded sales targets throughout his career. Jeremy is also a sought-after keynote speaker and hosts the popular podcast, Closers are Losers. His book, The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation, is a Wall Street Journal bestseller.  Connect With Jeremy: Jeremy's Website: https://www.7thlevelhq.com/  Jeremy's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/  Jeremy's Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyleeminer  Jeremy's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer  Jeremy's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52  Jeremy's Podcast, Closers are Losers: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/closers-are-losers-with-jeremy-miner/id1534365100  Resources Mentioned: Jeremy's Book, The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation: https://www.amazon.com/New-Model-Selling-Unsellable-Generation/dp/1636980112  How to Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie: https://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034  LinkedIn Secrets Masterclass, Have Job Security For Life: Use code ‘podcast' for 30% off at yapmedia.io/course.   Sponsored By: Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at youngandprofiting.co/shopify  Indeed - Get a $75 job credit at indeed.com/profiting  Facet - For a limited time Facet will waive $250 enrollment fee for new annual members! Visit facet.com/profiting for details. BetterHelp - Sign up for a webinar on mental health for entrepreneurs presented by BetterHelp at youngandprofiting.co/mentalhealth.    More About Young and Profiting Download Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com Get Sponsorship Deals - youngandprofiting.com/sponsorships Leave a Review - ratethispodcast.com/yap Watch Videos - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting   Follow Hala Taha LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala/ TikTok - tiktok.com/@yapwithhala Twitter - twitter.com/yapwithhala   Learn more about YAP Media's Services - yapmedia.io/