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Best podcasts about grieving brain

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Inside Mental Health: A Psych Central Podcast
Is It Prolonged Grief or Depression? Understanding the Differences

Inside Mental Health: A Psych Central Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2025 23:54


What does it really mean to grieve — and when does grief become a danger to your life? In this weighty episode, host Gabe Howard sits down with Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor, a leading expert in psychology whose work on grief and loss has touched millions. Dr. O'Connor shares groundbreaking insights on the subtle yet critical differences between the stereotypical grief process and prolonged grief, revealing why your heart can literally stop functioning due to loss. From staggering statistics showing a man's heart attack risk skyrockets on the day his spouse dies, to the intimate science of how our bonds regulate our well-being, this conversation is as thought-provoking as it is moving. Discover practical strategies to navigate those raw, overwhelming moments of loss, and learn how to build a personal toolkit for healing. Whether you're coping with grief yourself or supporting someone who is, this episode promises a deep, human exploration into turning heartbreak into hope. This episode has been sponsored by the Anxiety and Depression Association of America (ADAA). “It's not just that you're having grief, which is normal. It's that we're unable to find a way to adapt given that we have grief. So people with prolonged grief feel like life holds no meaning anymore, or they feel so angry and bitter about what's happened that they have trouble connecting with their living loved ones.” ~ Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD Our guest, Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, is a professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, investigating the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Her book “The Grieving Brain” was included on Oprah's list of Best Books to Comfort a Grieving Friend. O'Connor holds a PhD in clinical psychology from the University of Arizona and completed a postdoctoral fellowship in psychoneuroimmunology at the UCLA Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior. Having grown up in Montana, she now lives in Tucson, Arizona. Our host, Gabe Howard, is an award-winning writer and speaker who lives with bipolar disorder. He is the author of the popular book, "Mental Illness is an Asshole and other Observations," available from Amazon; signed copies are also available directly from the author. Gabe is also the host of the "Inside Bipolar" podcast with Dr. Nicole Washington. Gabe makes his home in the suburbs of Columbus, Ohio. He lives with his supportive wife, Kendall, and a Miniature Schnauzer dog that he never wanted, but now can't imagine life without. To book Gabe for your next event or learn more about him, please visit gabehoward.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Big 550 KTRS
Mary Frances O'Connor - author of The Grieving Body: Can you die from a broken heart?

The Big 550 KTRS

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2025 16:31


Mary Frances O'Connor, wrote a book called "The Grieving Brain" is now out with "The Grieving Body" - can you die of a broken heart? Absolutely. She appeared at the St. Louis County Library Clark Branch, and stopped by our studios for a chat beforehand.

GRUFFtalk How to Age Better with Barbara Hannah Grufferman
How Grief Rewires Your Body: The Hidden Toll of Loss with Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor EP 149

GRUFFtalk How to Age Better with Barbara Hannah Grufferman

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2025 60:12


LINKS & RESOURCES:  Learn more about Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor HERE  Get info about The Grieving Body HERE   Get info about The Grieving Brain HERE  Learn more about the Dougy Project (to help grieving children) HERE    In this episode of AGE BETTER, host Barbara Hannah Grufferman welcomes back Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor, neuroscientist, psychologist, and author of the best-selling book The Grieving Brain. This time, Dr. O'Connor joins the show to discuss her latest work, The Grieving Body: How the Stress of Loss Can Be an Opportunity for Healing. Together, they explore the profound connection between grief and physical health, offering listeners a deeper understanding of how loss impacts not just the mind but the entire body.    CHEAT SHEET:  Grief is more than an emotional experience—it's a whole-body stress response that affects systems like the heart, immune system, and even the gut microbiome. Dr. O'Connor shares fascinating insights from her research, including how grief can lead to conditions like broken heart syndrome, disrupt sleep patterns, and even influence long-term health through generational grief. She also provides practical strategies for managing grief's physical toll, from improving sleep quality to fostering community support and self-care routines.    This conversation is essential for anyone who has experienced loss or wants to better support loved ones who are grieving. By understanding the science behind grief's physical manifestations, listeners can take actionable steps toward healing and resilience.    WHY THIS EPISODE MATTERS TO YOU:  Grief is a universal experience, but its physical effects are often overlooked. This episode sheds light on how loss impacts our bodies and offers practical advice for managing these effects. Whether you're currently grieving or supporting someone who is, this conversation provides valuable tools for navigating one of life's most challenging experiences with compassion and care.    Connect with Barbara on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, or X!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Town Hall Seattle Science Series
244. Mary-Frances O'Connor with Dr. Anthony Back: Grief and the Body

Town Hall Seattle Science Series

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 28, 2025 74:06


Despite grief being one of the most universal of human experiences, there is still much that we do not know about it. Can we die of a broken heart? What happens in our bodies as we grieve; how do our coping behaviors affect our physical health, immunity, and even cognition? While we may be more familiar with psychological and emotional ramifications of loss and sorrow, we often overlook its impact on our physical bodies. In The Grieving Body: How the Stress of Loss Can Be an Opportunity for Healing, the follow-up to its successful predecessor The Grieving Brain (2022), grief expert, neuroscientist, and psychologist Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor focuses on how the painful ordeal of grief impacts the body. O'Connor shares scientific research, charts, and graphs coupled with personal stories, revealing new insights on grief's physiological impact and helping illuminate the toll that loss takes on our cardiovascular, endocrine, and immune systems and the larger implications for our long-term well-being. The Grieving Body is for anyone who has experienced loss and who may want to learn more about what they are going through and how to support them. Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, is a professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, investigating the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Her book The Grieving Brain was included on Oprah's list of Best Books to Comfort a Grieving Friend. O'Connor holds a PhD in clinical psychology from the University of Arizona and completed a post-doctoral fellowship in psychoneuroimmunology at the UCLA Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior. Dr. Anthony Back, Professor of Medicine at the University of Washington, is a pioneer in patient-oncologist communication and co-founder of the nonprofit VitalTalk. Educated at Stanford and Harvard, with training at UW and Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center, his research spans physician-assisted dying, communication pedagogy, and psilocybin therapy for healthcare providers and patients with cancer-related anxiety. He is also an ordained Zen priest in Roshi Joan Halifax's lineage.   Buy the Book The Grieving Body: How the Stress of Loss Can Be an Opportunity for Healing Elliott Bay Book Company

Grief Out Loud
What Now? Carla Fernandez & Renegade Grief

Grief Out Loud

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2025 43:48


In this episode of Grief Out Loud, we welcome back Carla Fernandez, co-founder of The Dinner Party, to talk about her new book, Renegade Grief, in which she explores the question: "Now what? What are we supposed to do after someone dies?" Carla reflects on the death of her father, the unconventional paths she's taken to process her grief, and how The Dinner Party came together from a desire to create non-traditional spaces for young adults navigating loss. In this conversation we delve into the dominant narratives around grief — and how the few that do exist may not fit for most of us. From potluck meals to altar building, Carla shares creative ways people can honor their grief and build community at the same time. We discuss: The inspiration behind Renegade Grief and why Carla wished this book existed when her dad died. How traditional grief support spaces often don't work for young adults. The origin story of The Dinner Party, and how one dinner with friends who “get it” can change everything. Why food, memory, and grief are so deeply intertwined. The myth that grief gets “easier after the first year” — and why year two can be even harder. Grief rituals and care practices for both early grief and the long haul. Creating identity-based grief spaces, like LGBTQ+ and BIPOC tables, and why specificity matters in grief support. Finding joy, creativity, and unexpected connection through grief (without forced positivity). Carla Fernandez is the co-founder of The Dinner Party, a community-driven organization that brings together grieving young adults for potluck dinners and meaningful conversations about life after loss. Her new book, Renegade Grief, is a practical and heartfelt guide to building personal rituals and support networks that meet you where you are — not where society says you should be. Resources Mentioned: Renegade Grief (out March 11, 2025) The Dinner Party - Peer grief support for 20 to 45 year-olds The Grieving Brain by Mary-Frances O'Connor The Smell of Rain on Dust by Martín Prechtel The Death of My Two Fathers - Documentary by Sol Guy Connect With Us: Dougy Center Website: dougy.org Email the Show: griefoutloud@dougy.org Listen to All Episodes: Grief Out Loud Podcast Follow us on Instagram and Facebook

Happier in Hollywood
Ep. 408: Career Transitions With Laverne McKinnon

Happier in Hollywood

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2025 32:03


Liz and Sarah talk to Hollywood veteran and career coach Laverne McKinnon about career transitions, career grief, and the tumult happening in Hollywood. Then, in The Craft (& Fain), they share a tip that will improve your writing — set a high bar. This week’s Hollywood Hack is a product Sarah has been using for over a decade: Dr. Bronner’s Organic Lip Balm. Finally, Liz recommends the limited series Apple Cider Vinegar on Netflix. Sign up for Liz & Sarah’s free weekly Substack newsletter at https://happierinhollywoodpod.substack.com. It will come right to your inbox! Get in touch on Instagram: @Sfain & @LizCraft Get in touch on Threads: @Sfain & @LizCraft Visit our website: https://happierinhollywood.com Join our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/HappierinHollywood/ Happier in Hollywood is part of ‘The Onward Project,’ a family of podcasts brought together by Gretchen Rubin—all about how to make your life better. Check out the other Onward Project podcasts—Happier with Gretchen Rubin, andSide Hustle School . If you liked this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and tell your friends! Note: Go to the Happier In Hollywood Facebook Group for Liz and Sarah’s extensive Teens/Tweens Gift Guide. Thanks to listeners for such great ideas! Link below. https://www.facebook.com/groups/903150719832696/permalink/3081705578643855/ LINKS: Moonshot Mentor with Laverne McKinnon: https://substack.com/profile/129372378-laverne-mckinnon?utm_source=global-search The Grieving Brain by Mary-Frances O’Connor: https://amzn.to/43rOCnM Dr. Bronner’s Organic Lip Balm: https://amzn.to/4koxlSv Apple Cider Vinegar trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Yj_rmCzhE Photo by AARN GIRI on UnsplashSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

DEAD Talks
196 - The Grieving Brain & Body | Mary-Frances O'Connor

DEAD Talks

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2025 49:12


Mary-Frances O'Connor conducts studies to better understand the grief process both psychologically and physiologically. She is a leader in the field of prolonged grief, a clinical condition in which people do not adjust to the acute feelings of grief and show increases in yearning, avoidance, and rumination. Her work primarily focuses on trying to tease out the mechanisms that cause this ongoing and severe reaction to loss. In particular, she is curious about the neurobiological, immune, and cardiovascular factors that vary between individual responses to grief.   Purchase her new book "The Grieving Body": https://maryfrancesoconnor.org/books/the-grieving-body   Join the ⁠DEAD Talk Patreon⁠ for only $5/mo to support our mission & and gain access to exclusive content and features.   "Dead Dad Club" & "Dead Mom Club" hats and shirts: ⁠Shop Here⁠   Purchase “Not Dead Yet” or DEAD Talk trucker hats here with free domestic shipping:

Beautiful Illusions
EP 37 - Memento Mori

Beautiful Illusions

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 16, 2025 65:39


Visit our website BeautifulIllusions.org for a complete set of show notes and links to almost everything discussed in this episodeSelected References:13:07 - Read “Why I Hope to Die at 75” by Ezekiel J. Emmanuel (The Atlantic, 2014)15:21 - For more see “'Why I hope to die at 75,' revisited” (Advisory Board, 2019) and the “Dr. Emanuel discusses his personal perspective on aging” page of his personal website.17:34 - Read “The Emperor of Ice-Cream” by Wallace Stevens34:03 - Listen to the Brain Science Podcast Episode 194: "The Grieving Brain" with Mary-Frances O'Connor from March, 2022 (YouTube link)39:20 - The Lifetime Setback Game started at the Phish show on August 14th, 2009 at the Comcast Theatre in Hartford, CT when we Darron & Jeff were in their early 30's41:04 - Read “The Tail End” post from 2015 on the Wait But Why blog54:37 - Listen the Mindscape Episode 10: Megan Rosenbloom on the Death Positive Movement from August, 201857:50 - Darron is likely referring to this passage from Seneca: “It is likely that some troubles will befall us; but it is not a present fact. How often has the unexpected happened! How often has the expected never come to pass! And even though it is ordained to be, what does it avail to run out to meet your suffering? You will suffer soon enough, when it arrives; so look forward meanwhile to better things. What shall you gain by doing this? Time. There will be many happenings meanwhile which will serve to postpone, or end, or pass on to another person, the trials which are near or even in your very presence. A fire has opened the way to flight. Men have been let down softly by a catastrophe. Sometimes the sword has been checked even at the victim's throat. Men have survived their own executioners. Even bad fortune is fickle. Perhaps it will come, perhaps not; in the meantime it is not. So look forward to better things.”This episode was recorded remotely at the Hunting House in November 2024The “Beautiful Illusions Theme” was performed by Darron Vigliotti (guitar) and Joseph Vigliotti (drums), and was written and recorded by Darron Vigliotti 

Ground Work
The Grieving Body with Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor

Ground Work

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2025 78:19


Episode 102. In this episode, Kate sits down with Mary-Frances O'Connor to talk about her new book The Grieving Body (a follow up to the Grieving Brain). This is an episode for anyone to deepen their understanding and literacy of grief—grievers, grief supporters, caregivers. In the episode, they talk about attachment and what it is to form an “us” and the some of the science behind love and bonding before diving into the deep emotional and physiological impacts of grief and understanding and normalizing the grieving process. At the heart of the episode is a discussion about the role of community in grief and loneliness and how we might support those around us that are grieving. Find Mary-Frances: The Grieving Body: How the Stress of Loss Can Be an Opportunity for HealingThe Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn From Love and Loss Instagram: @doctormfoconnorWebsiteOther Episodes on Grief:Embracing the Darkness with Francis WellerBringing Death Home with Heidi Boucher Sponsored By:REDMOND REAL SALTMine to Table Salt from Utah, Redmond Real Salt is packed full of 60+ Trace Minerals and is a staple in my kitchen. Find their salt, Re-Lyte Hydration Powder, and so much more here. Use code MINDBODYSOIL_15 for 15% off!redmond.lifeFIELD COMPANY CAST IRONUSA made cast iron. Light, thin bottomed, and smooth - just like vintage cast iron. My go to for everything from small skillets to big dutch ovens. fieldcompany.com/kate_kavanaughBAHÉ FOOTWEARBarefoot, zero-drop, gorgeous running shoes, sandals, and hiking boots that are grounded. Meaning you can reap all the benefits of the electron flow from earth to your body while you're getting in your steps. Use the code ‘Kate10' for 10% off. Support the Podcast:SubstackLeave a one-time TipConnect with Kate:Instagram: @kate_kavanaugh

Restorative Grief with Mandy Capehart
174. Healing Beyond Good and Bad

Restorative Grief with Mandy Capehart

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2025 8:49


"Unlearning begins with removing the ‘good/bad' binary and moving toward a spectrum of wellness." Grief is often seen through the limited lens of good vs. bad, creating barriers to fully understanding and engaging with our emotions. But what if there was no "bad" way to grieve? What if we could reframe our approach to grief by unlearning these binaries and embracing a spectrum of experiences instead? In this episode, we'll explore how unlearning societal expectations of grief allows us to move toward healing that is both authentic and expansive, especially in a world that still stigmatizes loss. Links + Resources from this episode: The Grieving Brain by Mary-Frances O'Connor Become a Patron! Learn more about The Restorative Grief Project

The Inside Social Work Podcast
Why does grief feel so lonely?

The Inside Social Work Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2025 38:58


Have you ever wondered why grief feels so isolating?Many people expect grief to follow a straight path, something to "move on" from after a set amount of time. The reality is far more complex. In this episode, I sit down with psychologist and grief researcher Liam Spicer to explore what grief is, the myths that surround it, and how we can better support ourselves and others through loss.Grief is a universal human experience, yet so many of us struggle to talk about it openly. In this conversation, Liam shares insights from his work and personal experiences, breaking down common misconceptions about grief and bereavement. We discuss how grief extends beyond the loss of a loved one, why there's no "right way" to grieve, and the role of connection in healing.Key TakeawaysGrief isn't something you "get over"—it changes shape, but it doesn't disappear.There's no single timeline or correct way to grieve. Everyone's experience is unique.Grief isn't just about death—it can be triggered by life changes, lost opportunities, or even a shift in identity.Societal expectations can make grief harder by pressuring people to “move on” too quickly.Supporting someone who is grieving doesn't mean having the perfect words—sometimes, just showing up is enough.Guilt about feeling happy again is common, but it doesn't mean you've forgotten your loved one.There are ways to maintain a connection with someone you've lost, which can help with healing.ResourcesAustralian Centre for Grief and Bereavement – Fact sheets, resources, and support for grief.The Grieving Brain by Mary-Frances O'Connor – A science-based look at how grief affects us.It's OK That You're Not OK by Megan Devine – A compassionate guide for navigating grief.Liam Spicer's Website- Find out more about Liam's work and research Liam's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/liamspicer_/ connect@liamspicer.com.au Connected Teens https://marievakakis.com.au/connected-teens/Connect with Marie https://thetherapyhub.com.au/ https://marievakakis.com.au/ https://www.instagram.com/marievakakis/Submit a question to the Podcasthttps://forms.gle/nvNQyw9gJXMNnveY6

In Session with Dr. Farid Holakouee
August 05, 2024 Discussion on the book "The Grieving Brain"

In Session with Dr. Farid Holakouee

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2024 42:57


August 05, 2024 Discussion on the book "The Grieving Brain" by Dr. Farid Holakouee

Peaceful Exit
Your Grieving Brain with Mary-Frances O'Connor

Peaceful Exit

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2024 39:37


Mary-Frances O'Connor is a neuroscientist at the University of Arizona where she studies the impact of grief on the brain. Her work helps explain things like why we still expect our dead loved one to walk into the living room and why grief can feel so disorienting. As Mary-Frances explains, grief is a hormonal event, and understanding how it shows up in our brains can help us make sense of our own grief experience. In this episode, we cover how grief is really the brain learning to imagine a life with the absence of a loved one. Our brains know how to grieve. In fact, resilience is the most typical brain pattern of grieving.You can learn more about Mary-Frances' work and find her book, “The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss,” at https://maryfrancesoconnor.org/This podcast is produced by Larj Media.

What If? For Authors
What if I'm grieving?

What If? For Authors

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2024 30:25 Transcription Available


Episode Description: In this episode of "What If? For Authors," Claire Taylor tackles the deeply emotional topic of grieving. Drawing from her experience as an Enneagram coach and her personal journey through grief, Claire explores how to manage an author career while dealing with significant loss. Whether you're in the midst of grief or supporting someone who is, this episode provides a compassionate and realistic approach to navigating these challenging times. Key Takeaways: Avoiding Unnecessary Suffering: Learn why it's essential to fully experience grief rather than avoiding or suppressing it. Importance of Support: Recognize the value of asking for help and surrounding yourself with supportive people during the grieving process. Transformation Through Grief: Understand that grief changes you and that your writing process and projects may need to adapt to your new self. Taking a Break: It's okay to pause your writing to focus on healing; your career can continue once you're ready. Complex Emotions: Embrace the wide range of emotions, including gratitude, that coexist with grief, and learn how to navigate them. Links mentioned: The Grieving Brain by Mary Frances O'Connor Why Listen? If you're an author dealing with grief or supporting someone who is, this episode offers a thoughtful and empathetic perspective on balancing an author career with the profound emotions of loss. This episode is a must-listen for any author seeking to understand and navigate grief while maintaining their creative path. Join the Conversation: Have a question or fear you'd like me to explore? Reach out to me at contact@ffs.media. Access the transcript for this episode here. Happy Writing!

Kwik Brain with Jim Kwik
The Grieving Brain: How to Navigate Emotions After Loss with Mary-Frances O'Connor

Kwik Brain with Jim Kwik

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2024 19:59


Why do you grieve and how can you overcome the intense emotions grief can often produce?Grief is one of the most profound human experiences you'll go through. It's also inevitable. You can't escape grief, no matter how hard you try. That's what makes it so challenging. But you can learn how to cope with the natural ups and downs of the grieving process.Dr. Mary Frances O'Connor is here today to help us understand what's happening on a neurological level when you're grieving. Dr. O'Connor is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona and directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress Lab studying the effects of grief on the body and brain. She's also the author of the book, The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss.Grief is always tied to pain, but part of the emotional response is your brain activating different areas as it tries to process your loss. Whether you're experiencing profound grief yourself or know someone going through it, this episode will change how you think about love and loss while giving you tools to navigate this deeply emotional journey./ / / Are you ready to take the next step on your brain optimization journey? / / /Choose your own adventure. Below are the two best places to start:>>> Discover Your Unique KWIK BRAIN C.O.D.E To Activate Your Genius>>> Explore My Top Brain Health Supplements for Focus, Memory, and EnergyTake your first step by choosing one of the options above, and you will find everything you need to ignite your brilliant brain and unlock your exceptional life, allowing you to achieve and surpass all of your personal and professional goals.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Emotion Lotion
Podcast Ep #1: Gone, But Also Everlasting

Emotion Lotion

Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2024 71:34


When doing research for my last post about models of grief, it became clear that I needed to talk to an expert. Luckily, I knew just the one. In my first podcast episode, I talk with Dr. Saren Seeley about the neuroscience of grief. How does the brain adapt after loss? We discuss the “Gone but Everlasting” theory, how grieving is a learning process, and the surprisingly contentious climate around the study of grief. I so appreciate the humanity she brings to science and hope you'll enjoy her company too. The lightly edited transcript of our conversation is below.Chrissy Sandman (CS): Hello, Saren! Thank you for talking with me.Saren Seeley (SS): Of course, I'm so happy to do this.CS: Me too! I am so excited to talk with you. In particular, we have several interesting points of connection over the last nine or so years. So I'll go ahead and introduce you and then we can get into it.So, Dr. Saren Seeley is here with me today. She's a postdoctoral research fellow in the psychiatry department at Mount Sinai's Icahn School of Medicine. She completed her PhD in Clinical Psychology at the University of Arizona under the mentorship of Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor, where she conducted research on neuroscience of grief and trained as a clinician. She completed her clinical internship at the Pittsburgh VA Medical Center (my hometown!). And before then, she did her undergraduate studies at CUNY Hunter College in New York, which is where we met when I took over her job as a research assistant in the Regulation of Emotion of Anxiety and Depression (READ) lab there. And since then, we have sort of stayed in touch over email, usually when I was bugging you about different fMRI scanning methods and analysis over the years, and you've always been so generous to reply with such helpful and detailed responses. And then more recently, with the grief that I've been going through, I just so happened to pick up the book that was written by your grad school advisor that you are mentioned in the acknowledgement section of and I imagine some of the work you were doing in grad school is woven throughout the book. So I just thought that you would be the perfect person to talk to as I am getting interested in how we understand grief. What are the models that are out there, both in terms of what's empirically supported, and what we know about how people adapt and change after a loss of a loved one, but also what people resonate with and what's useful for people who are going through it themselves, which might be in a clinical setting, or just how people make sense of their experience. And the other aspect of what I wanted to talk with you about today is just how I feel you weave yourself into the work. And in some of the popular science communications I've read of yours, I just really admire how you've brought your own lived experience and perspective into understanding how we are humans studying the things that we go through, which I think - there's been a shift - but in my experience, there's been a bit of a stigma or taboo about acknowledging that we as humans go through some of the things related to mental health, but we're also studying or are working with us as therapists.SS: Absolutely. And that's one of the things that's been so nice for me by reading your Substack is a seeing how these ideas resonate with, you know, people who are not people in this very specific niche area, people are just coming to these ideas in the midst of having their own experiences of loss and grief. And then also, you know, the way that you can your writing connects your understanding of the science with what you're going through at that moment. That's been really beautiful to read. So I'm glad you're sharing that with the world.CS: Thank you. Yeah, I think in particular, the the book I was referencing by Mary-Frances, as you call her, Dr. O'Connor is the the grieving brain which sort of came out right when I was going through it or, and so I think a lot of the concepts as I was reading the book about just the freshness of the loss, and I guess the befuddlement or like disbelief, or just like sort of confusion about you know that someone's no longer here and yet, there's some process that goes on that was like nothing I had experienced quite in that way before about the searching. And I just couldn't believe that that exact experience was being described in this book about how our brain continues to search for people that are no longer here. And exactly why that is based on different aspects of memory and learning, which I know is is a big part of your research right about about learning and grieving.SS: Yeah, Mary-Frances and I have been working on our "Gone but also Everlasting" theory. That's kind of been our focus. I get to still work with her. Even since I've graduated, we're very close collaborators, which has been wonderful. We're both focusing on a little bit different things, aspects of this model. But really thinking about: Why do we have these weird experiences? Why does it feel like when we lose someone, we're kind of straddling these two worlds, one in which they exist, and one in which they don't? And how does our brain makes sense of that? And, you know, thinking about what do we know about attachment and how our brain encodes those attachments with people who are important to us?   That's one of the questions you'd asked is like, what, what is useful about, you know, this lens of understanding grief through the lens of the brain, and I certainly don't think it's the old way or even the best way. But it happens to be the way that A) I'm interested in and B) I actually have skills to do something about. But I think one of the things that offers is that it can help people understand some of these very weird, disorienting, bewildering experiences that they have. And often feeling like, "Is this happening just to me, is this you know, is this normal? Why am I having this experience, even though the logical part of my brain knows different information?" And I think that can at least hopefully offer some way of, I don't know, having a little bit more of a roadmap and way to orient to the world while you're having this really this experience of upheaval, in so many different ways.CS: Yes. So I believe, like you mentioned, you and Dr. O'Connor put out this theory paper on grieving as a form of learning. So you just mentioned, there's a part of our brain that logically understands and then there's another part that maybe takes time to update. Could you tell us a little bit more about how grieving is learning?SS: Yeah, absolutely. So this theory is really trying to address the big questions like: Why does grieving take so long? Why is it so painful? Why do we continue to yearn for someone who has died even long after we know they're gone, and, you know, our brain may make predictions that they are still here that they're coming back.And, and one of the key aspects of this theory in particular is that adaptation requires a person to reconcile these two conflicting streams of information that I mentioned, like this really firmly entrenched understanding and belief about the person as being alive and existing even when they're not in our immediate presence. And so that means the best prediction about them is when they're not here is that they're just somewhere else. They're coming back, we can go out and find them. But we also have these episodic memories or specific knowledge of the fact of their deaths. So I'm really curious about how do we learn over time to wait, the predictions based on this new model, this new information that we have more heavily than those based on the first model, the old model, given that the left given that that old model has been so strongly reinforced for so long, and that the new information that we have is usually information that we don't want things to be this way. So it can be really hard. It can be a very painful thing to accept the fact that those changes have occurred.And so we're curious about what's happening in the brain when we successfully do manage to reconcile those two streams of information and, you know, integrate grief, which, ultimately allows us to create this meaningful life that honors our relationship with a person who died. But we're no longer stuck in that wanting something we can't have and then continually slamming up against the fact that they're not here. And so yeah, so this idea of greeting is a learning process is that we have to learn at multiple levels. And three of the ones that are important are that, you know, there's a lot of habit learning that has to be overcome. We have to develop the ability to predict the absence of the person who died as opposed to their presence, at least sort of in this physical plane.And also developing ways to get your attachment and social support needs met, particularly when the person who died played a significant role in your life was as someone close to you. And so my interests in the of past couple of years - because I get very focused on details of things - Is like, okay, we're talking about learning, but like, that's like attention. In cognitive neuroscience, there's a million different types of learning. It's not a very specific term. And so what gets in the way of that? And so one of the directions that we're taking this "Gone but also Everlasting" theory that we've been working on is trying to use computational psychiatry or mathematical modeling of brain and behavior to try to use established formal models of learning that we have from cognitive neuroscience that are very well developed, like reinforcement learning. And can we use those to test out some of these ideas about what's happening in grief?CS: Gone but everlasting.SS: Yeah, "Gone but also Everlasting" is the name that - actually Mary-Frances came up with that. All credit goes to her for that one. Yeah, but it speaks to those dual streams of like: they're not here anymore, but their memory lives on and their impact lives on.CS: Right.SS: And we think that happens in that it's not just sort of a metaphor. I mean, our brains are changed by every experience that we have, and loving someone being loved by someone is an experience that changes our brain. We can't really cut open human brains, but some of the prairie vole research shows that there are specific neurons that fire specifically when the vole is approaching their partner that they're pair bonded to. And so that bond is literally encoded in our brains, which in some ways, is kind of a nice way to think about it. That is still there.CS: And for anyone who hasn't taken Intro to Psychology classes, the way that a lot of the research on bonding and pair bonding and connection, is based on these cute prairie voles who have lifelong relationships with their partners.SS: They are absolutely adorable. But my prairie vole colleagues tell me they also bite a lot.CS: Yeah, but I mean, that's incredible, I think, that the physical matter changes as a result of the experience of being loved and loving. And when you were describing the grieving as a form of learning, I was just jotting down a couple of other things that stood out to me. You said, part of the the habit learning, I imagine would be.... just as you're going about your day, the ways that you might interact with someone who's gone. Those are automatic. And so when you think about, "This is the typical time on the weekend that I usually call my dad" or whatever that might be cued by things in your environment, such as, I don't know, Saturday morning coffee, or whatever the case is, and then that doesn't happen anymore. And so, just as you were saying, predicting absence. It's like, instead of predicting or expecting their presence, the thing to learn is their absence. Or expecting the absence. Is that one way of understanding it?SS: Yeah, definitely. And so in terms like putting that in neuroscience terms, we can use the idea of prediction errors and how those help us learn. So, you know, when we're making decisions about things, we get feedback about the outcome. So we chose to go on this route versus this other route. Is the outcome of our choice, is that better or worse than expected? And so negative prediction errors are when something that is worse than expected. So you know if we reach for the phone expecting to call our loved one who died and then have that moment of realization, "Oh, that door is shut. I can't do that anymore." That's a big negative prediction error. And potentially that can be when those waves of grief occur that you experience. You're really confronted with that reality. Interestingly enough, the salience - or the sort of the strength and emotional content of a prediction error -  can drive learning. So when something is really acute and obvious. That is a big signal to us that we need to change our predictions, because this one is no longer working. And so the interesting thing about grief is, you know, it doesn't just take one time to have that prediction error and wave of grief. It really is something that you participate in, over and over and over again. And it's not necessarily a perfectly linear trajectory of like, those waves getting less over time. Sometimes they can be more, sometimes they can be less. But overall, most people do kind of integrate that new knowledge of the loss.CS: Yeah, I think I'm almost imagining, like the process of learning over time, and then different knobs that might assist that learning that you can turn up or different knobs that you can turn down that might hinder the learning.SS: Oh, I love that!CS: And I think acceptance, like you mentioned, or in other words, allowing that emotional wave of grief to actually be felt and acknowledged and attended to. You're absorbing that learning. SS: Yeah, I love that idea of like knobs that turn up or down your, you know, things that facilitate or inhibit your learning. I think that's actually how I've really been coming to think about this. You know, I really try to... Grief is already so stigmatized, I really tried to be very careful in my language. Psychologists are sometimes bad about this. Like saying, like, "Oh, this person is failing to adapt." Like, that's, that's very...CS: Not very compassionate.SS: And yeah, I think that terminology of like… so if we assume that grieving is this process of learning that unfolds over time, there are things that can get in the way of that and there are things that can make that easier. So, yeah, I like that.CS: Maybe this is a good segue into kind of the climate around the study of grief. So as I was mentioning to Saren, why I originally wanted to speak with you is to kind of check the temperature about what's going on amongst researchers in terms of how we talk about models of grief. I originally was sitting down to write my next post about models of grief and was interested in the most famous one that persists today, which is the Five-Stage Model of grief, developed by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, who actually studied people who were about to die of terminal illness themselves and the stages that they went through. So these common stages, which I actually don't have memorized fully in order. So I think that's another interesting thing to note is just like: okay, people are familiar with that there are stages of grief - they probably involve anger, denial, bargaining, depression, acceptance. I think those are the ones, maybe in that order. I can fact check this later. But that idea to me never, just as a person, seemed all that controversial until I started really diving into the literature and how people have absolutely torn down this model in some pretty strongly worded academic papers by proponents of other models, which seem well- supported by science and have good stuff to offer too. But I just noticed, aside from the content of the actual models of grief, that there seems to be like a lot of contention or intensity around the debates about what models should we be using to understand grief. SS: We see that same level of contention and the debates that have been ongoing for years now about grief related disorders. And is there is there a place that we can say that this is a clinical disorder that's related to grief? Or is that medicalizing normal human experience? And I think a lot of these debates about prolonged grief disorder, about five stages, really taps into a the impact that grief has on us, and the fact that everybody probably has their own experience of grief that may be shaping how they're coming to this debate, either through themselves or someone that they're close to. And also that a lot of these debates come down to what is normal and human experience? And how do we define normal grief? And so a lot of the debates are coming out of saying, "This is helpful because it is a way that people can understand their experiences better or that we can support people better," versus, you know, saying, "No, that drawing this really clear boundary doesn't adequately capture the diversity and variability of grief experiences that people have and is too prescriptive."So that is one of the concerns with the Five-Stage Model is that it presents people with this idea that in order to properly grieve, they must go through these stages in order. And that I don't think is helpful. But what I do think is helpful, and one of the reasons that this model is so sticky. I've worked in hospitals, and this is very popular with social workers, it seems like because A) like that roadmap, I mentioned. During a really weird, disconcerting, disorienting experience, it says, "This is what you're going to experience, then you're going to experience this, then you're going to experience this." And so you know, like, Okay, I have to get through this stage, this stage and this stage, and then there will be an end to that, and I know what's going to happen. And it also, I think, really allows people to feel validated and and experiencing some emotions, like anger or relief, that are very stigmatized, and not seen as acceptable. So I think, you know, thinking about not just like, what is the content or scientific premise of these models, but like, what function are these models serving in the lives of people who are grieving and the people who are trying to help them? There's like multiple layers going on.CS: Yes! I remember, in grad school, one of our professors saying, "A model is only as good as it is useful." And that really stuck with me, because no theory or kind of abstraction is perfect is going to capture everyone's experience. It's just not. And I think that's what I was most interested in is like, what do people connect with? Like, why has this model hung around? And I enjoyed that part of The Grieving Brain book that kind of talks about one reason why this model has - why the Five-Stage Model is so popular - is because it gives people that roadmap. And also related to the heroic cycle, which I hadn't thought about that since middle school English class or whatever. Going through like a heroic Odyssey where you have, you know, trials and tribulations that you overcome, and then ultimately, succeed. And wouldn't that be nice if we could have something like that for grief? I think that is what people long for is a way to navigate it and come out victorious, almost. But it's perhaps not exactly like that. It's not something that can be finished.SS: Yeah, I think it can set up expectations for what grief is going to look like or what it's going to feel like that then when those expectations are not met, can make someone feel like "Oh, I'm not doing this right." For some reason, at least in US Western culture, there are a lot of myths and like about what it looks like to "do grief right." There's one paper that is a survey showing that people think that expressing positive emotion within, I think it's one or two months of the loss, is inappropriate. But then like when you get to six months, expressing negative emotions is inappropriate. So it's just like grieving people can't win.CS: Yeah.SS: But yeah, what you were saying about models and their utility. As we were meeting with this researcher who published this preprint recently, a computational neuroscientist, who is getting into the area of grief. And I was, you know, making a reference to that statement, “All models are wrong, but some are useful.” He was saying, "I really like to put a spin on that and say: ‘All models are right, but some are useless.'" So it's really the idea of our models are not going to perfectly capture, especially in experience like grief. I mean, humans, for one thing, we're not just like six foot prairie voles. We have all this other stuff happening. And particularly when it comes to computational psychiatry, and we're trying to distill these experiences down to mathematical models and equations, this is not going to... like we're never going to come up with an equation that captures all of the different parameters and influences on grief. But I think, scientifically, where having a really well specified model can come in is it allows us to falsify our ideas and make more specific predictions, see if those predictions hold, see if they don't hold. A lot of ideas or theories and in psychology, you know, it's a lot of like, sort of fuzzy verbal descriptions.And so in some ways, the work with the "Gone-But-Also-Everlasting" theory that I'm interested in is like: Okay, how do we make this really, like, testable? And so maybe we can that can help us distill down to like: Okay, this is the essential part of the model like, this other part of the model might be interesting or useful in some ways, but might not be essential to our understanding of some of the core processes that are going on. It's something I'm always thinking about when I'm doing this work is like, how is this going to be perceived by people who are going through grief or know, people are going through grief? And how could this be used or interpreted by, you know, people who are not necessarily in science or people who are in science?I mean, I hope what people get out of this focus on learning in the brain is that grieving is a learning process that requires time and experience and a lot of both of those things. And it's really hard. And we need to respect and honor the effort that that takes and the time that that takes, and be compassionate with ourselves and with other people. For that time and experience that's needed. And, you know, it's something that you have to... yeah, it's, it's just going to take time. And it can't necessarily be like a one and done thing. One of the things I hear from participants most commonly that's really painful for them is like, feeling like people in their lives have expected them to move on. And they don't feel like moving on...that that is a thing. Like, how could they move on from this important thing that's had such an impact on their lives, both through the relationship and also the event of the death?CS: Yeah, time and experience. And I think that if we're not interested in a one-size-fits-all prescriptive model of grief....It's complicated, right? Because we want to capture the varied human experience and it's not gonna look the same for everyone. But are there still commonalities and principles? And I think what you just said is it: We need experience and time. I've talked with family members about this, the sort of like "Everyone keeps telling me that there's no one way to grieve and it looks differently for everyone," which, at times, I've personally found both comforting, and a little bit frustrating, because it's sort of like, well, what am I supposed to do then? Or like, what does it look like? I think it's both. I think it's a dialectic of both, right? There probably are some commonalities, and it is gonna look different for everyone. And that is hard to hold both. SS: Yeah, I can see in some ways, I would feel like, you know, just being told, like, "Well go figure it out for yourself!"CS: Yeah. But I guess that brings me to the Dual Process Model. I think it's one that is an alternative to the Five-Stage Model that has been more recently supported by research and is consistent with this idea of needing learning. And I think learning is almost like synonymous in a way with experience, like getting experience. Living. Continuing to live your life and experience your life. And I think there is something in there too. I mean, maybe this is my bias in terms of like, my own personal and research interests in acceptance and mindfulness-based approaches and compassion-based approaches of sort of allowing emotion to unfold even if it's uncomfortable. There's something about that, that seems important. So a long winded way of saying, Could you explain the Dual Process Model for us?SS: Yeah! So there's a lot of different models that people have developed to try to understand and provide a framework for organizing grief and the experience of grief. There's also a Meaning-Making model by Robert Niemeyer, which has been pretty influential in some circles. But the Dual Process Model of coping with bereavement. This was developed by Margaret Stroebe and Hank Schut to describe how people come to terms with the death of a loved one. It really comes out of Cognitive Stress Theory. But it's also one of the first models to emphasize that healthy grief is variable across time. And also it needs to address these two different sources of stress, loss-oriented stressors and restoration-oriented stressors. So loss-oriented stressors, these are things that require a focus on the loss experience. So the process of thinking about and coming to terms with the reality of the loss, dealing with ruminations and intrusive thoughts, but also positive reminiscing and participating in personal or communal rituals to remain close to them. And like this idea that there are these stressors that you have to tackle that are related to loss, this comes from the idea of like this older idea of of grief work and tasks of grieving. The idea that somebody has to actively participate in confronting the reality that loss in order to adapt.CS: So being in it? "Grief work" meaning you "should" be really reflecting on the person and like feeling sad. SS: Exactly, yeah. So you know, having emotions from loss is healthy. You need to have those. There are different ways to have them, but they serve a purpose. Even the ones that are really painful and may feel, you know, pretty debilitating, especially early on. Another loss oriented stressor is you also need to take time off from grief. So, grief is not only really taxing on your emotions and your mental health, but also physically on your body. There's cardiovascular stress, inflammatory and immune changes that are related to acute loss. So, you know, needing some times of avoidance or denial of that loss to give yourself a little bit of a break. So you can come back to the work of grief later. So you have these loss oriented stressors on one hand, and then the other hand you have these restoration oriented stressors, which role are things related to the process of reorienting to changes in the world that have occurred secondary to the bereavement so for example, common one is like interpersonal conflict. So family arguments or disagreement over what to do with a loved one stuff specifically like a parent when they have died, or like how funeral or burial arrangements should be handled. So having to navigate that conflict, that's a restoration-oriented stressor. Also, practical matters, like if the loved one was some was the person who handled the finances, or they were a caregiver or somebody who are major emotional support. One of the stressors is that you have to figure out what to do with the fact that they're no longer fulfilling that role that might require you to take on new responsibilities, learn new skills, cultivate other relationships where you can get those needs for closeness or support met. And then another sort of task on the restoration-oriented side could be thinking about how the absence of that person has changed your identity and like what that means for you going forward.So I think one of the advantages of the Dual Process Model is that it captures stressors on both the looking back and looking forward side of things. And so key to the Dual Process Model is that both of these are important, and we need both in order to adjust to this world. So how do we attend to both? Well, the Dual Process Model says that we oscillate or move back and forth flexibly between these two. Sometimes we are crying, thinking about the loss and how much we miss the person. Sometimes we are, you know, figuring out like, "Okay, what do I do with all of these financial documents?" or "I used to be a daughter, like, who am I now that I no longer have a parent?" So this moving back and forth, this experience over time is what facilitates integrated grief or the ability to hold that both the past and the present. And things that might inhibit learning is getting really stuck on one of those sides or the other. And I can explain a little bit about that, but so I'm not monologuing, I'd love to hear your reflections.CS: There's so much there. I think for me it's helpful to imagine the visual that goes along with this, which is a box on the left hand side, which is related to the loss-oriented, which my shorthand for understanding this is looking back for the past. And then on the right hand side, a box for restoration-oriented. Or kind of like, "What now, what next?" -  forward oriented. And then in between those two boxes, there's a bunch of jagged lines back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And the oscillation between those two states is really central to the model, it seems. And it's so hard. So if anything, I think it's a little confusing, you know, it's a little less clear cut than like, oh, the five stages because it is messy in reality.SS: Right! What is the timescale of the oscillations? How fast are you supposed to like, go back and forth? How much time do you spend in one versus the other? Do you have to have that, like an even 50/50 split?  This is a beautiful model, but like, what does this actually look like for someone to try to apply it to their life? I think having your reflections that is is really interesting hearing what that's like.CS: I think one beautiful thing about it is the idea that we don't have to be really immersing ourselves or don't need to be or you know, the "shoulds" come in about how you should be grieving. You don't need to lock yourself away and like really force yourself to sit in this pool of grief all the time. That actually it is healthy and adaptive to give yourself a break. That's okay, too. And it's such a fine line, I think in all of psychology and in my own life and in clinical work with clients. It's just a fine line between avoidance that is pretty inflexible and can cause problems, so like totally avoiding any reminders of the loved one and like not talking about them or mentioning their name at family gatherings. You know, it can look like that a little bit. That might not be the type of avoidance you want to be engaging in. But on the other hand, that it is okay to dip your toe into it, and then allow yourself to like, watch a silly movie or like, do something new just randomly. You know, start a new tradition is okay. It doesn't have to always be what you did. But I think the balancing act of that...it is hard to imagine, in a way, it's like, it's very tricky, because you have to be present and constantly like sort of monitoring like, what is working and what is not working?SS: Yeah, and I think what you're attending to at any given moment is also heavily influenced, like how adaptive that is, is heavily influenced by how attuned to your current context is it. So avoidance may be particularly helpful, like you might have times at work where you really need to shut it off and just not think about that so you can get other things that are important to you done. Another issue that the Stroebe and Schut address in some of their later publications on the Dual Process Model, that I think is useful when we're thinking about how do we apply this to actual humans, is this concept of overload. So these loss and restoration-oriented stressors are not the only stressors that we have going on in our life. And often, bereavement-related stressors can happen on top of a bunch of other unrelated life stressors. This could be like additional losses, it could be major life changes, a job that's already stressful, a move that had been planned. And any other kind of contexts that is putting stress in your life. There's at least one review paper that found that financial stress is actually a predictor of having a harder time adapting to a loss and potentially developing a grief related disorder. And so they make the good point that oscillation is not necessarily going to help with overload. And so when you are feeling overloaded, you have more of these stressors than you can handle. Those probably need a different approach.CS: Right. In a way, it's a luxury to be able to let yourself fall apart in the more loss-oriented kind of way.CS: A I think context is another major, major, major thing that probably influences so much very variability in terms of how grieving looks in the context of the death. I think that was something that I was thinking about when learning about the trajectories research. So to my understanding, this is a lot of the work that comes from George Bonanno's lab at Columbia, who really examined a lot of the work about how resilient people are on the whole after really terrible things happen. Whether it is a loss of a loved one, or I think a lot of the research that perhaps you know and are involved with since you're in New York, has come from what happened after 911 and how people responded to that event, for example. So if you could maybe fill us in a little bit more on that world of research: the trajectories. What does it mean to have a trajectory of grief or recovery?SS: What does grief or trauma, post-traumatic responses, what do those look like over time? And there have been a number of studies in you know, in grief, in different disorders. George Bananno's work was really influential in that his work was one of the first to really emphasize that....Okay, in psychology, we focus a lot on what's going wrong. So a lot of our focus has been on, "Oh, look at all of the terrible things that can happen to someone after they experience trauma," but not taking into account that actually the modal response to really devastating events is that people are okay, over time. And even in that short term, not everybody develops PTSD. Most people go on to, you know, they still experience grief, but it's not debilitating in their lives and they're still able to do things that they want and need to. I think that is where we get some of that perspective about like, "Okay, this is this learning and healing." This is a natural process that happens for most people. But there are places where it can get stuck, or there are things that can happen on top of it that inhibit it.And so in grief research, one of the first, I believe to look at trajectories... It's very helpful in this work to have a group of people who've all been through the same event at the same time. So the Coconut Grove Fire was a fire at a nightclub in the early 1900s. And the researcher followed people who were in this or experienced the death of a loved one from it over time. And this was one of the first papers to show that people have very different, like, if you were to sort of draw out how they're doing over time, those lines look very different. Some look flat, some go down, and then go back up, and some go down and stay down. I think a lot of the trajectories research tends to find like three groups. My brain likes to call them mild, medium, and spicy. I think I got that from researcher. But essentially, that there's one group that does not have a severe psychological impact of whatever that event was. So they do okay in the short term and they continue doing okay in the long term. There's a group that's initially severely affected, but they do sort of rebound over time, they return to their normal baseline functioning. And there is a group that experiences a really hard time in the short term. And they continue to experience a really hard time.One of the more recent papers looking at prolonged grief symptoms, after loss, looked up to over two years. And they found in that group of people whose functioning goes down and stays down, there's a subgroup of those who do slowly, very slowly get better. Like at 12 months, you can't see a difference, but at 27 months, you can. You get two classes of people. And so that [study] came out a few years ago, and that sort of made people think about: Okay, so if we're saying that you can diagnose grief-related disorder, which we're currently calling prolonged grief, I have thoughts on that. It's another topic. You know, maybe we need to ask is 12 months and appropriate timeframe? Do we need to look a little further out? So yeah, I think just you know, this trajectories work helps us understand the real variability that we see in individual responses after loss. And that sometimes that has to do with what you're seeing in the short term. But also sometimes that what you're seeing in the short term doesn't predict how someone's going to do in the long term.CS: Yeah, and I think one study on trajectories was in the Lives of Older Couples dataset. So looking at mainly old white people in I think the Midwest.SS: The majority of our populations in grief studies, very sadly.CS: Yes...after the loss of a spouse. I found it very surprising that in addition to the three trajectories that you described, there was also a group in that particular study, where one spouse after the other one died, got better! They had been depressed, and then they were no depressed. And I think in that particular study, I was shocked at the percentages, it was like 10% of people. So you know, it's a particular sample that doesn't generalize to everyone. But I just found that to be really surprising. And I think I find the trajectories research on the whole very surprising because it's the vast majority of people, about I think over 60% in that particular study, who fit the more resilient trajectory where over time, they they didn't have long term, debilitating, I think depressive symptoms was the main way they measured that in that particular study. But I couldn't I kind of couldn't believe that.SS: Yeah, I think that, you know, that goes back to context. Like I can imagine, you know, I don't recall or know exactly why people were doing better but you can certainly imagine If somebody's in a really bad relationship, or if somebody has a lot of really heavy duty caregiving responsibilities, that is severely impacting their mental health, then things could get better after that loss. Yeah, I think it's good to examine some of the assumptions we have about what we expect people to look like and how we expect them to react after loss.CS: Yeah, so I think the heartening takeaway is that like, most people are adaptable and can change. And even for those, like you mentioned that maybe two years, it took two years like that's, you know, time and experience that they needed to then recover and adapt. And I think so much of it is cultural, too, because it reminds me, you know, I think just the messaging, we get around it is a whole other voice in the room. And we don't, typically in America, at least have traditions where you wear all black for a year, or have you know, that designated timeframe or space to do it. So then all those other questions creep in about, like, how should this be affecting me? And how for how long?SS: And you had asked about clinical work in grief. And, you know, one of the things thinking about is, is some of that one question I get sometimes is, does everybody need therapy after grief? It might seem like that would be a good thing. This is a distressing experience, maybe you need professional help. But we actually find that what's really critical is social support. Some people might need to get through that through therapy. Like you mentioned, being able to validate people in experiences that are very normal, but can be not talked about or stigmatized, that they're experiencing or emotions that might seem unacceptable. For a lot of people, they might get that social support through existing relationships that they have.But grief also changes our social network, the social environment we're in. So I had a research participant once who told me that like one of the really painful things for her about losing her husband was, she had this group of friends that used to like they were all couples, they would all go out on like this double or triple date, like once a week, and once her husband died, they stopped inviting her. And she was saying, like, "I think they're doing it because they think it would be too hard for me to sit there with other couples," or, you know, "It might be painful to talk about, but I actually really miss that. I would love to be there. I would love to, you know, be around other people who knew my husband and be able to talk about him and remember him." And it's unfortunate that there is so much discomfort about grief, both wanting to just and potentially wanting to distance yourself from someone who's going through something so hard, or, you know, in this in this case, like maybe thinking about the fact that their own husbands might die in the case of these couples and not wanting to think about that. But but also not knowing what to say or feeling like, I don't want to bring it up, because I don't want to make it worse. You're not going to remind the person that their loved one has died, they are probably very aware of that. It's not like they just forget, if you don't talk about it. I forget where I was going with that. Yeah, so the idea that, you know, the event of bereavement can ironically distance us from some of our social supports at the time that we need it most.And that can be where therapy can be helpful. Either strategizing, like how do I talk to people in my life and let them know what how to support me better, or getting support if you don't have support from other contexts or, you know, learning to deal with thoughts that might get in the way of that experience. Like, a common thought is like, "If I allow myself to feel happy if I allow myself to stop grieving, it means I'm being disrespectful or disloyal, or somehow trivializing my relationship with that person. Like, if they really mattered to me, wouldn't I be upset all the time?" So, using CBT techniques can sort of challenge some of the thoughts, or how do you accept really difficult emotions without avoiding them and continue to do do things that are important to you? CS: Yeah. That's really interesting there about this idea of like an attachment to like, being actively grieving - not that grieving stops - but this idea of being in distress of mourning, and that that maintains your relationship to the person or loyalty to them. That is something I've also encountered clinically. And it's interesting. I think a lot of people's actually helpful response from friends and family is like, “Oh, well, that person that you lost would want you to be happy and would want you to move on.” And I actually think that's meaningful. It's like, okay, your joy that you're still living out can be a dedication to the person you lost. And I think that's a part of the restoration-oriented end of things that I wanted to come back to about identity, and how figuring out who you are now in the absence of this other person is a process of, of creating again, or making meaning out of it. One thing that I have personally found helpful for that is sort of thinking about, like, you know, over the holidays and noticing the absence of my dad, who is a very fun loving, like, gregarious person, like, he would be the person like, you know, you walk in the door, and he asks, If you want, like some champagne, or you know, is very welcoming, and that way. And over Christmas, all of us were kind of like, obviously, down in the dumps, it was pretty fresh. But just noticing there wasn't someone to like usher along the events of the evening, as much. It wasn't like, okay, let's have like, drinks now. And like, cheers. And like, then we'll like have dinner like it like the just the transitions of the evening, I noticed were a little bit absent. And I was like, "I can do this!" I can be the person to like, not exactly fill his shoes, but like to step up in this moment and try to embody that quality of like, "Let's toast to being together and like everything we've been through" or you know, just like trying take on those qualities that I miss about him, myself. SS: That's such a lovely way to really bring the things that you learned from him in your relationship from him into the present and into your current relationships.CS: Yeah, it's a work in progress, for sure. But I think that idea that like, joy or positive emotions... giving yourself permission to continue on with that is part of the grieving process too.SS: Reminiscing is really important. Being able to share remembrances and revisit those times, not in the hopes that if we spend enough time there that somehow we will get into that counterfactual reality where the death didn't happen. But really saying this happened, this matters. I'm going to spend time thinking about and enjoying that this happened.CS: Totally. I mean, there's been so many things that like... one thing that I do appreciate when I've been with my family since my dad died is that there have been times when someone but usually my sister or me or my mom would have said like, "Dad would have loved this thing." And like, of course, that put paints like a really bittersweet tone to it, but it's sort of just like, oh, that's what things feel like now. And like, I would rather feel all of it rather than like not doing anything that reminds me of him anymore. These are the examples that are coming to mind as I think about like what this oscillation means or like, I don't know think feel different, for sure. It's more mixed emotions a lot of the time.SS: Yeah, it's that that flipside, like pain is the other side of love. You can't really have one without having the other.CS: Well, this has been a lot of food for thought. Maybe I'll kind of move us into final thoughts. So I suppose, are there any other aspects of these models that you would want people to carry with them? Aside from what we've talked about - or even from what we've talked about - what are the takeaways? SS: I think one of the takeaways for me is just thinking about how learning happens. We don't unlearn things. Actually, Mary-Frances and I talk a lot about your your grad mentor's Inhibitory Learning [theory]. Like, you don't you don't unlearn things, but new learning has to happen on top of it. So I think that's, that's one important piece for me. And that really challenges the idea that in order to be healthy after loss or healthy adaptation means that you're detaching or that you're moving on.Somehow, I think other aspects of models that I appreciate are, I think a lot of them converge on the idea that you don't have to lose your relationship or give up your relationship with that person. But the relationship has to change in a way that allows it to accommodate what is currently happening. And when that model cannot change, that's where we see problems. But you don't have to throw out your relationship with that person. You just need to... It needs to be a little bit different than it has been before.CS: Yeah, so I'm just letting that sink in. That's a really nice connection to my own research in grad school. And I just think that's worth repeating: we don't unlearn things. We have to learn new things if we want to change. And so some some of that idea comes from my graduate mentor, Michelle Craske, who's done a lot of work on how do we overcome fears and anxiety disorders in particular. And how she has adapted exposure therapy to be consistent with the ways that we know that our brains learn best. And specifically that if we're not erasing our old fears, we actually can't get rid of them, we just have to learn enough new experiences to soak that in so that we can continue to move forward. Which I think is really interesting and I think has made me think of like other metaphors that are similar to this, that I've just, like, popped up through my mind about like, just in my own experience of when I've been feeling the worst, and like thinking about, like plants that I've forgotten to water, and how like, yeah, there will be like, you know, a part of the plant that then like looks a little scraggly for a time, but then you can water it again, and the new part on top will continue to grow. So it doesn't get rid of the part that has been through that really hard experience. But you have to kind of build on top of that or keep going. That was just one image that came to mind. I was also thinking of like, I don't know, just going to nature for other ideas like lizards who can regrow their tails. How does that work? Does it does the tail grow back in the same exact way? No! It probably will be a little smaller and like there's going to be evidence of what has happened to it still. But does that new new tail help it balance or do whatever tails do? Sure. So you can't erase what's happened, but you have to figure out how to continue. The new learning that has to occur.SS: Absolutely. What is it been like for you reading all of these sort of like scientific potentially sort of dispassionate and debates about something that you are personally going through. Like at that moment? That might be a hard question.CS: Well, I think it intersects with how I cope with things. Going an intellectual route is natural for me. And it's easier in some ways to be in that headspace. I think I have an insatiable curiosity for things. So I think a big part of me was like, this is interesting. And that made me want to read more about it. And I would say I didn't necessarily feel invalidated reading about all these different models. Moreso I was just sort of like, "Whoa, like, I'm stepping into a whole swirling, intense realm." And I think then at that point, I was, I was kind of like, okay, like, I want to take a step back now, because this is getting in the weeds of what I ultimately don't love about academia is like getting too carried away with like, what's "right" and kind of losing sight of like, what matters, at times. But like, I think it's, I'm most interested in marrying the two: What can we learn and study? And then what can we kind of take away that like, actually has heart to it? So that was my experience reading through the literature on this.  And I appreciated how you mentioned earlier, and so does Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor, that neuroscience is one lens through which you can understand grief. It's certainly an interesting one. Like, that's kind of how I also got into [research]. Originally, I did more like fMRI research and have gone on to other ways of looking at psychology, but I just find it interesting. But it's certainly not the only or not the best way. It's one lens.So I think it's so important to just be like, humble. I like have a really strong value of humility that I think I've developed - and I didn't always - but through the study of such heavy topics, I guess I would say that really like impact people's lives. It's like I think that's so important.SS: Yeah, I really feel that especially coming to grief research as.... I have lived experiences of a whole lot of other things. Grief is like the one thing that significant loss is not something I actually have personal lived experience of contrary to like, a million other things I could be studying right now. So it's been really interesting to me to try to keep that humility in mind. I get a lot out of, you know, what do research participants say like, how do they describe their experience? How do people that I talk to describe their experience the philosophy like phenomenology papers about first person subjective nature of grief? Yeah, really coming to that and trying to think, at the end of the day, like all of this brain stuff is really cool. I think it's, I think it's interesting. I think it's useful. Not only just because the pursuit of knowledge and knowing stuff about the world is useful, but I think there are ways that it can be helpful. Especially because grief is this pretty small research area, at least in the neuroscience like relative to depression and or PTSD, being really like okay, what I say is going to probably be pretty influential. Because there's not a lot of like other voices and so really trying to I don't know hold all of my ideas lightly and be open to other perspectives.CS: Yes, I think more more voices like that in the field of psychology or anything related to mental health is very needed. Well, it's been so lovely to talk with you about this. I found it very validating for you to email me and say like, yeah, it is complicated, like, thinking about all of these things. And I think like talking with you helped me understand. I think so many things, but I think I'm just left with like this idea of like, time and experience. “Time and new experience” is one of the phrases that's hanging around right now.SS: Yeah, this has been so much fun to connect with you about this and about something that is not about fMRI troubleshooting! That's been especially fun. But also, yeah, just really, as I said before, I really value your your perspective as a scientist and a human being going through this.CS: Thank you.Thank you again to my guest Saren Seeley. You can find her work at sarenseeley.github.io including some really great science writing that she's done. This podcast is for informational and educational purposes and is not intended to replace professional medical advice. Thank you to Grant Carey for helping to mix and edit this episode. Music is the song "Escape" by Sandwoman, which you can find on your favorite streaming services. Thank you so much for listening, and see you next time. Get full access to Emotion Lotion at emotionlotion.substack.com/subscribe

The Mind Mate Podcast
199: The Grieving Brain, Accessing Flow States, and Exploring Spiritual Practices with Paul Glezer

The Mind Mate Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2024 33:47


Welcome to episode 198! In this episode Pauly and Tom touch on a multitude of topics ranging from the grief and what the brain does in response to grieving to ways to access the flow state, The boys also touch on what Pauly learnt on his trip to India as well as his silent retreat meditation experiences; why Tom is feeling called to actively practice spirituality, whether secular or religious. We hope you enjoy!

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When Life Brings Your Massive Thing, You Only Have Two ChoicesThis episode was inspired by a letter I received from a listener. We talk about suffering and hope, and it will help you.Scripture: Isaiah 48:10, II Corinthians 1Books: Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart by Gordon Livingston and The Grieving Brain by Mary-Frances O'Connor(Bonus classic episode for Throwback Thursday)Leave a voicemail with your question or comment!Five Ways You Can Support this show:Pray for us!Subscribe, like, and share it with your friends! (We even have a YouTube channel!)Leave reviews and comments wherever you listen to podcasts!You can become a paid partner of the podcast and get special bonus episodes and lots more content by clicking here. Visit one of our affiliate partners and consider using their products (we use them every day):Improve your gut health, immune system, and protect your brain with Pique!Other Helpful Links:Click here to access the Hope Is the First Dose playlist of hopeful, healing songs!Be sure to check out my new book, Hope Is the First Dose!Here's a free 5-day Bible study on YouVersion/BibleApp based on my new book!Sign up for my weekly Self-Brain Surgery Newsletter here!All recent episodes with transcripts are available here! (00:00) - Introduction (03:18) - Acts of Kindness (04:24) - Impactful Mail (09:08) - Overcoming Tragedy (22:18) - Choosing Resilience (28:19) - Sharing the Load (29:13) - Comfort in Troubles (32:31) - Changing Your Mind (33:54) - Walking Through Grief

How To Deal With Grief and Trauma
69 Mary-Frances O'Connor | The Grieving Brain

How To Deal With Grief and Trauma

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2024 53:47


HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is completely self-funded, produced, and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich. Consider making a small donation to support the Podcast: bit.ly/SupportGTPodcast. Thank you! For more information, please visit Nathalie's website, join the podcast's Instagram page, and subscribe to the newsletter to receive updates on future episodes here.About this week's episodeMary-Frances's book The Grieving Brain has inspired me from the moment I started reading it. I recommend it to so many of my therapy clients who express a desire to understand grief – I've lost count. As a neuroscientist, she shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss, and learning. So I'm very excited today to be speaking with Mary-Frances, neuroscientist and author of the book The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss, and to find out even more about the science behind grief and all that Mary-Frances and her colleagues have researched in their lab. I have been excitedly and patiently waiting for today's episode to find out even more of my favourite topics: grief and trauma and to have Mary-Frances enlighten our brains on those topics in a language that we can all understand. About this week's guestMary-Frances O'Connor, PhD is an Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab. Her research focuses on the physiological correlates of emotion, in particular, the wide range of physical and emotional responses during bereavement, including yearning and isolation. She believes that a clinical science approach toward the experience and mechanisms of grieving can improve interventions for prolonged grief disorder, newly included in the revised DSM-5. Website: maryfrancesoconnor.orgTwitter: @doctormfo Instagram: @doctormfoconnor Resources mentioned in this episode:Mary-Frances' book: The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and LossThank you for listening!HOW TO DEAL WITH GRIEF AND TRAUMA is produced and edited by me, Nathalie Himmelrich. Support the showSupport the show: Become a supporter of the show! Starting at $3/month Join Facebook Group - Grief and Trauma Support Network Download the FREE grief resource eBook Book a Discovery Call Leave a review Follow on socials: Instagram Facebook Website

Good Mourning
The Neuroscience of the Grieving Brain with Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor

Good Mourning

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2024 51:26


Have you ever wondered how grief impacts your brain? Today, we are joined by the renowned grief neuroscientist and psychologist Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor, author of The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss.Mary Frances is the authority on the neurology of grief, and in this conversation, she shares her scientific research and practical knowledge about how our brains respond to loss. It's a fascinating must-listen for anyone coping with grief or supporting someone who is.Connect with usJoin our grief support membership waitlist here.Check out our shop or buy a signed copy of our book Good Mourning: Honest Conversations About Grief and Loss here: goodmourning.com.au/shop/Follow us on Instagram at @goodmourningpodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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When we ruminate on old losses and other massive things, it literally changes our brains and our bodies.(I'm Still Sick, So I'm Giving You An Important Episode Back Today!)In this episode, I'll give the science behind how psychosomatic illnesses work, and some compassionate self-brain surgery tools to change guilt into healthy, healing grief.Podcast Mentioned: While We're Waiting from Jill and Brad SullivanScripture: II Corinthians 10:5Book mentioned: The Grieving Brain by Mary-Frances O'ConnorLeave a voicemail with your question or comment!Five Ways You Can Support this show:Pray for us!Subscribe, like, and share it with your friends! (We even have a YouTube channel!)Leave reviews and comments wherever you listen to podcasts!You can become a paid partner of the podcast and get special bonus episodes and lots more content by clicking here. Visit one of our affiliate partners and consider using their products (we use them every day):Improve your gut health, immune system, and protect your brain with Pique!Other Helpful Links:Click here to access the Hope Is the First Dose playlist of hopeful, healing songs!Be sure to check out my new book, Hope Is the First Dose!Here's a free 5-day Bible study on YouVersion/BibleApp based on my new book!Sign up for my weekly Self-Brain Surgery Newsletter here!All recent episodes with transcripts are available here! (00:02) - Introducing a Special Episode on Grief and Healing (01:25) - Changing Your Life Starts with Changing Your Mind (03:01) - The Struggle of Moving on from Past Tragedies (04:38) - Blaming Oneself for Tragic Losses (06:08) - Changing the Structure of Memories (08:37) - Modulating Gene Expression Through Thought Processes (15:34) - The Habit of Guilt and Avoiding Grief (17:05) - Harmful Effects of Ruminating and Taking Control (19:00) - Unable to Change the Past, Embrace the Present (24:10) - Introducing "Hope is the First Dose" book

You Start Today with Dr. Lee Warren | Weekly Prescriptions to Become Healthier, Feel Better, and Be Happier.

When we ruminate on old losses and other massive things, it literally changes our brains and our bodies.Today, I'll give the science behind how psychosomatic illnesses work, and some compassionate self-brain surgery tools to change guilt into healthy, healing grief.Podcast Mentioned: While We're Waiting from Jill and Brad SullivanScripture: II Corinthians 10:5Book mentioned: The Grieving Brain by Mary-Frances O'Connor(We are on a 2-week sabbatical to prepare for Season 10. This episode will help you get ready!)Leave a voicemail with your question or comment!You can become a paid partner of the podcast and get special bonus episodes and lots more content by clicking here. Support and boost your immune system with Armra! Use DRLEEWARREN code at checkout for a discount!Improve your gut health, immune system, and protect your brain with Pique!We have a YouTube Channel! Click here to subscribe.PLEASE SUBSCRIBE to the show wherever you listen!Click here to access the Hope Is the First Dose playlist of hopeful, healing songs!Be sure to check out my new book, Hope Is the First Dose!Here's a free 5-day Bible study on YouVersion/BibleApp based on my new book!Sign up for my weekly Self-Brain Surgery Newsletter here! (00:02) - Introduction to the episode and its importance (03:13) - Announcement about changes to the paid subscriber program (06:23) - Introduction and Upcoming Surgery (07:38) - Heartbreaking Story of a Child's Death from Meningitis (08:55) - Providing Tools for Coping with Grief (14:14) - The Ten Commandments of Self-Brain Surgery and Grief (16:17) - Counterfactual Thinking and its Impact on Grief Recovery (19:23) - The Habit of Counterfactual Thinking and Guilt (23:09) - The Compassion of Living in the Present (28:20) - Introduction and Book Advertisement

Coffee Conversations with Scientists
The Science Behind The Grieving Brain

Coffee Conversations with Scientists

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 17, 2024 31:29


Take a virtual coffee break with the Medical College of Wisconsin (MCW) and the Advancing a Healthier Wisconsin Endowment as we chat with Joseph Goveas, MD, Professor, Psychiatry and Behavioral Medicine and Institute for Health and Equity and Vice-Chair and Director, Geriatric Psychiatry at MCW, on the risks, symptoms, and interventions for prolonged grief.

Charlotte Talks
How 'The Grieving Brain' learns from love and loss

Charlotte Talks

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2023 49:34


All of us experience loss and with that comes grief. Given its universality, it is sometimes difficult to understand why grief can be so devastating or how we can emerge from grief stronger. We explore that with Mary-Frances O'Connor.

Untethered: Healing the Pain from a Sudden Death
38 - A Grief Professional's Reflections on a Personal Loss: An Interview With Trauma Therapist Meghan Riordan Jarvis

Untethered: Healing the Pain from a Sudden Death

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2023 47:49


Today's podcast features Meghan Riordan Jarvis who is a clinical psychotherapist and specializes in grief and loss using a trauma informed approach. Meghan is an author, podcaster, and advocate for change for grief in the workplace. In our conversation today, Meghan shares how she discovered her calling to work with clients who have experienced trauma, grief, and loss, and some of the approaches she uses with her clients. She also explains the model she has developed with her colleague to provide individuals who are grieving with a daily practice to help with their grief. During our time together, Meghan and I also discuss our shared interest in shifting how the corporate work environment addresses grief in the workplace. Key Points: Meghan describes anticipatory grief using the example of consuming small cups of water that we can slowly absorb, compared to grief that comes with a sudden or traumatic loss as a form of water boarding or trying to consume enormous amounts of water that the body is unable to absorb. Meghan has a beautiful and easy to understand way of describing concepts related to grief including EMDR and uses analogy of removing stains. Meghan talks about how she approaches self-care, and her decision to care for herself by getting someone to assist and help her in work and organization. This is a good reminder that self-care comes in many shapes and sizes and is unique for everyone. I appreciated Meghan's recommendation to block time into 3-hour increments. This is extremely helpful for those living in the aftermath of a sudden or unexpected death. Trauma leaves the mind and body so overwhelmed, that three-hour increments are a safe and manageable way to structure your day or engage in future planning when you are feeling overwhelmed by the pain or grief after the sudden or unexpected death of a loved one. I am so thankful to Meghan for her time and sharing her insights in this interview. Meghan's first book, The End of an Hour, her personal memoir, was released earlier this week, and her second book, Can Anyone Tell Me: Essential Questions About Grief and Loss will be released October 2024. We will have information about the first book in our Facebook group, Talking About the Podcast Untethered with Dr. Levin along with a reference to the book, The Grieving Brain which Meghan also mentions during our interview. If you would like to connect with Meghan, please join our Facebook group Talking About the Podcast Untethered with Dr. Levin.

Wabi Sabi Series
THE GRIEVING BRAIN with Mary-Frances O'Connor

Wabi Sabi Series

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2023 29:47


If there was one thing you think society should talk more about, what would it be? “The grieving brain: the surprising science of how we learn from Love and loss ”__________Mary-Frances O'Connor PhD is one of the happiest people you'll ever meet and yet, she talks about grief all day, every day. Whilst many of you long-time listeners here on the podcast know I'm not shy when it comes to talking about death and grief, I wanted to learn more from Mary-Frances and get her take on a subject she's studied for more than 24 years. Mary-Frances is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. She earned a doctorate from the University of Arizona and completed a fellowship at UCLA. Following a faculty appointment at UCLA Cousins Center for , she returned to the University of Arizona in 2012. Her work has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Biological Psychiatry, and Psychological Science, and featured in Newsweek, the New York Times, and The Washington Post. She recently released a book on many of her findings:- The Grieving Brain: The surprising science of how we learn from love and loss - where she shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss, and learning. _______For more information about Mary-Frances, check out these places;-Website: https://maryfrancesoconnor.org/Her Book: The Grieving BrainInstagram: Mary-Frances Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryfrancesoconnor/Head to michellejcox.com for more information about the ONE QUESTION podcast, your host or today's guestsConnect with Michelle on Linkedin here:- @MichelleJCoxConnect with Michelle on Instagram here:- @michellejcoxConnect with Michelle on Facebook here - @michellejcoxAND, if you have a burning topic you'd love people to talk more about, or know someone who'd be great to come on the One Question podcast, please get in touch;- hello@michellejcox.com

You Start Today with Dr. Lee Warren | Weekly Prescriptions to Become Healthier, Feel Better, and Be Happier.

When we ruminate on old losses and other massive things, it literally changes our brains and our bodies.Today, I'll give the science behind how psychosomatic illnesses work, and some compassionate self-brain surgery tools to change guilt into healthy, healing grief.Podcast Mentioned: While We're Waiting from Jill and Brad Sullivan Scripture: II Corinthians 10:5Book mentioned: The Grieving Brain by Mary-Frances O'ConnorPLEASE SUBSCRIBE to the show wherever you listen!Click here to access the Hope Is the First Dose playlist of hopeful, healing songs!Be sure to check out my new book, Hope Is the First Dose!Here's a free 5-day Bible study on YouVersion/BibleApp based on my new book!Sign up for my weekly Self-Brain Surgery Newsletter here!Music by John Prine(Music shared on The Dr. Lee Warren Podcast is authorized under BMI license #61063253 and ASCAP license #400010513 ) (00:02) - Introducing a Special Episode on Grief and Healing (01:25) - Changing Your Life Starts with Changing Your Mind (03:01) - The Struggle of Moving on from Past Tragedies (04:38) - Blaming Oneself for Tragic Losses (06:08) - Changing the Structure of Memories (08:37) - Modulating Gene Expression Through Thought Processes (15:34) - The Habit of Guilt and Avoiding Grief (17:05) - Harmful Effects of Ruminating and Taking Control (19:00) - Unable to Change the Past, Embrace the Present (24:10) - Introducing "Hope is the First Dose" book

You Start Today with Dr. Lee Warren | Weekly Prescriptions to Become Healthier, Feel Better, and Be Happier.

When Life Brings Your Massive Thing, You Only Have Two ChoicesThis episode was inspired by a letter I received from a listener. We talk about suffering and hope, and it will help you. Scripture: Isaiah 48:10, II Corinthians 1Books: Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart by Gordon Livingston and The Grieving Brain by Mary-Frances O'ConnorPLEASE SUBSCRIBE to the show wherever you listen!Leave a comment or question for the upcoming "Ask Me Anything" Episode at this link: https://www.speakpipe.com/drleewarrenClick here to access the Hope Is the First Dose playlist of hopeful, healing songs!Be sure to check out my new book, Hope Is the First Dose!Here's a free 5-day Bible study on YouVersion/BibleApp based on my new book!Sign up for my weekly Self-Brain Surgery Newsletter here!

Under the Cortex
Best Of: Revisiting Episodes on the Myers-Briggs Test, the Grieving Brain, and More

Under the Cortex

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2023 21:57


At the height of the COVID-19 epidemic in 2020, the Association for Psychological Science joined countless other organizations around the world in turning to podcasts to share findings and conversations. The result is Under the Cortex, which now celebrates 100 episodes in which psychological scientists help us understand some of their most interesting and impactful new research. This special episode is a bit of a greatest hits compilation, featuring clips from six of our favorite episodes to date. Dan McAdams provides a skeptical deep dive on the Myers Briggs test.  Mary Frances O'Connor discusses what happens in the grieving brain. APS's Charles Blue and Ludmila Nunes debunk some common myths of psychological science.  Nathan Cheek explores some of the unintended negative consequences of restricting freedoms.  Eiko Fried makes the case against the tendency to oversimplify mental health diagnoses. And Andrew Devendorf examines the bias within the research community against "me-search.”  You can hear the rest of these interviews by clicking on the links above. And subscribe to all episodes of Under the Cortex by visiting your favorite podcast app or the APS podcast page at psychologicalscience.org. 

Dementia Untangled
Untangling The Grieving Brain (with Mary-Frances O'Connor)

Dementia Untangled

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2023 33:44


Dementia caregivers often have complicated feelings around grief and loss throughout the dementia journey. We talk with Mary-Frances O'Connor, Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of Arizona and author of The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss, about emotions and changes that come with grief. She talks us through the scientific process of understanding how our brains process grief and why we experience it, what can trigger painful emotions and sensitivities, and why it's important for us to acknowledge our expression of it. 

What About Death!?
Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor: The Grieving Brain

What About Death!?

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2023 43:44


In today's episode, Tsultrim speaks with Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor, author of the fascinating book “The Grieving Brain – The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss”. Dr O'Connor is an Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of Arizona where she directs The Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, investigating the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Dr O'Connor explains what she has learnt over more than two decades researching grief and its effects. She also talks about how we can use that research to understand our loss and move through our grief in a way that keeps us connected to love, and offers hope and peace of mind.Learn more about Dr O'Connor and her work: https://maryfrancesoconnor.org/Follow Dr O'Connor on Instagram: @doctormfoconnorThis episode of What About Death!? is hosted by Tsultrim and edited by Werner Mathiuet. Special thanks to Shannon Callander and the whole Karuna team.Brought to you by karuna.org.auFollow What About Death!? on social media: @whataboutdeathpodcastOur music is Bling Heights by Ahjay Stelino.If listening to these podcasts raises any concerns or issues for you please contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636.

NeuroNoodle Neurofeedback and Neuropsychology
Can The Grieving Brain Author Unlock Your Super Brain Power? | Bradley 7th Annual Super Brain Summit

NeuroNoodle Neurofeedback and Neuropsychology

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2023 42:29


#neurofeedbackpodcast #mentalhealthpodcast #superbrainsummit #grief Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF PSYCHOLOGY, UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA and Author of the Book The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss joins Dr Laura Jansons, Dr Lori Russell-Chapin and Pete Jansons to discuss her book as well as @BradleyUniversity 7th annual Super Brain Summit https://www.bradley.edu/academic/cio/ccbr/symposiums/superbrainsummit/ Key Moments: 0:00 2:25 7th Super Brain Summit at Bradley University 4:55 Keynote speaker Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor 6:40 Grief 8:30 Grief Class at Bradley 9:00 Bond with Pets 9:50 Daughter means 2 11:04 Routine Habits 12:52 Addictions 15:15 Neurofeedback and Grief 17:00 Nucleus Accumbens craving 19:08 Processing 21:13 Level Attachment 24:58 Grieving 25:30 Grieving people don't like advice 26:00 Would've could've thoughts 27:48 Tools 29:35 Control/Letting Go 32:29 Dr lori Russell-Chapin Story 34:00 Faith The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss A renowned grief expert and neuroscientist shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss, and learning. For as long as humans have existed, we have struggled when a loved one dies. Poets and playwrights have written about the dark cloak of grief, the deep yearning, how devastating heartache feels. But until now, we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience. In The Grieving Brain, neuroscientist and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, gives us a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. O'Connor has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, and in this book, she makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible through her contagious enthusiasm, and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and her real-life stories, The Grieving Brain does what the best popular science books do, combining storytelling, accessible science, and practical knowledge that will help us better understand what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace. SUPER BRAIN SUMMIT The Super Brain Summit is an annual conference with live and asynchronous sessions that showcases internationally known experts to talk about the many, diverse wonders of the brain. The 2023 event will focus on The Grieving Brain, the surprising science of how we learn from love and loss. The featured speaker will be Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor. There will be four sessions available: To understand grief, understand bonding and attachment Neurobiology of grief and grieving Prolonged Grief Disorder (PGD) (Grieving as form of learning) Toolkit of coping strategies and psychotherapeutic intervention You will have three options to register for Super Brain. You may register for in person, live streaming or recorded sessions. If you choose the in person or live streaming event, you will not automatically receive the recorded session. You must register specifically for recorded sessions. Continuing Education Units (CEUs) for LPC, LCPC, LSW, LMFT, LCP, RN, LPN, APN, PT, and PTA will be awarded for full participation in the program. Each session will earn .15 CEUs (1.5 contact hours). For more information regarding registration contact Gwen Howarter in Continuing Education and Professional Development at ghowarter@bradley.edu or (309) 677-3900. For more information regarding programming, contact Dr. Lori Russell-Chapin, Professor and Co-Director for the Center for Collaborative Brain Research lar@bradley.edu or (309) 677-3186. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/neuronoodle/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/neuronoodle/support

The Happy Pear Podcast
The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss with Psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor

The Happy Pear Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2023 57:08


We have an amazing guest on today's episode, Mary-Frances O'Connor, a psychologist and author of "The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss."Mary-Frances conducts studies to better understand the grief process both psychologically and physiologically. She is a leader in the field of prolonged grief, a clinical condition in which people do not adjust to the acute feelings of grief and show increases in yearning, avoidance, and rumination. Her work primarily focuses on trying to tease out the mechanisms that cause this ongoing and severe reaction to loss. In particular, she is curious about the neurobiological, immune, and cardiovascular factors that vary between individual responses to grief.In this episode we explore the different facets of grief, how it affects our brain, how to deal with it and how we can support others. A heavy topic, and we are complete novices here but we learnt a lot and hope that you did to.This episode is sponsored by Vivobarefoot Footwear. Vivobarefoot Footwear have given our listeners an exclusive 15% discount when you enter the code HAPPYPEAR15 Genuinely these are the only shoes you will see Dave & Steve wearing!Lots of Love,Dave & SteveProduced by Sean Cahill and Sara Fawsitt Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Executor Help Podcast
The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss

The Executor Help Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 20, 2023 32:30


No one expects their dining room table to get stolen. And no one expects their loved one to die. Even when a person has been ill for a very long time, no one knows what it will be like to walk through the world without this other person. David has a conversation with Mary Frances O'Connor who took it upon herself to study grief from the perspective of what the brain is doing during grief, perhaps we could find the how, and that would help us understand the why.  For David's book, other resources, and more visit www.davidedey.com

Spa it Girl Talk Show by Yvette Le Blowitz
The Grieving Brain w/Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, Grief Expert, Neuroscientist, Psychologist & Author - EP.202

Spa it Girl Talk Show by Yvette Le Blowitz

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2023 44:05


Feel Good From Within with Yvette Le Blowitz - #SPAITGIRL Podcast EP.202 - The Grieving Brain w/Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, Grief Expert, Neuroscientist Psychologist and Author  In The Grieving Brain, renowned grief expert and neuroscientist Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss and learning. For as long as humans have existed, we have struggled when a loved one dies. Poets and playwrights have written about the dark cloak of grief, the deep yearning, how devastating heartache feels. But until now, we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience. Mary-Frances O'Connor,PhD, has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain and in her book The Grieving Brain, she makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible through her contagious enthusiasm, and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others, but with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loves ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and her real-life stories, The Grieving Brain does what the best popular science books do, combining storytelling, accessible science, and practical knowledge that will help us better understand what happens when we grieve. Yvette Le Blowitz Podcast Host talks with Mary-Frances O'Connor,PhD author of The Grieving Brain who shares a practical overview of what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease. In Podcast Episode - EP.202 Mary-Frances O'Connor,PhD shares: - a little bit about herself - insights into her book - The Grieving Brain  - a practical overview of grief and grieving - groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve - how to support a loved one after a loss - practical grief and grieving tips - her own self-care rituals Plus we talk about so much more.... Get Ready to TUNE  ------ Episode 202 - #spaitgirl Podcast with Yvette Le Blowitz  available on Apple, Spotify, Google, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, Audible, iTunes, Libysn, Audiobookstore.com Available on all Podcast Apps  search for #spaitgirl on any podcast app or on google  -------- Available to watch on Youtube Channel - Spa it Girl or Yvette Le Blowitz Press the Play Button Below  - Subscribe to my youtube channel/s in support ----- JOIN OUR #SPAITGIRL BOOK CLUB Buy a copy of   **The Grieving Brain by Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD **order now through the spaitgirl podcast affiliated BookTopia link *any book purchase via this link will result in a small commission paid by BookTopia to spaitgirl **thanks for your support for more books search via Booktopia our affiliated online book store  *click here Hashtag #spaitgirlbookclub + tag @spaitgirl to share what book you are currently reading --- STAY IN TOUCH   Podcast Guest Mary-Frances O'Connor,PhD Author of The Grieving Brain Website www.maryfrancesoconnor.org Instagram @doctormfoconnor ------ Podcast Host  Yvette Le Blowitz  Instagram @yvetteleblowitz Website www.yvetteleblowitz.com Website www.feelgoodfromwithin.com Youtube Channel: Yvette Le Blowitz  TikTok: @yvetteleblowitz Become a Podcast Show Sponsor #SPAITGIRL  www.spaitgirl.com Email: info@spaitgirl.com Email: info@feelgoodfromwithin.com www.feelgoodfromwithin.com ---- JOIN OUR #SPAITGIRL Community  Instagram: @spaitgirl TikTok: @spaitgirl Sign Up to my Mailing List: www.spaitgirl.com Sign Up to my Mailing List: www.feelgoodfromwithin.com Search for #spaitgirl on any podcast app, youtube and subscribe  --- HOW TO SUPPORT Feel Good From Within with Yvette Le Blowitz - #SPAITGIRL Podcast  Little Random Act of Kindness - podcast show - support - ideas below  - subscribe to the #spaitgirl podcast show on any podcast app or youtube channel  - leave a 5* rating and review  - tell someone about the #spaitgirl podcast show - share your favourite episode - tag @spaitgirl in your stories - hashtag #spaitgirl to share the show &  Together "Let's Feel Good From Within" and #makefeelinggoodgoviral Please note - Affiliated Links included in this spaitgirl.com blog post includes affiliated links with Amazon.com and booktopia.com.au- should you order any books from Amazon.com or Booktopia.com.au via the links contained in this blog post spaitgirl.com will receive a small paid commission fee from the online book stores.  Please note - The information in this podcast is a general conversation between the podcast host and podcast guest and is not intended to replace professional medical advice and should not be considered a substitute for medical treatment or advice from a mental health professional or qualified medical doctor or specialist.  Use of any of the material in this podcast show is always at the listeners discretion.   The podcast host and guest accept no liability arising directly or indirectly from use or misuse of any of the information contained in this podcast show and podcast episode conversation, or any trauma triggered or health concerns associated with it. If you are experiencing depression, mental illness, PTSD, trauma, abuse or have any health concerns please seek medical professional help immediately.   #mentalhealth #mentalhealthawareness #mentalhealthpodcast #podcast #grief #griefjourney #grieving #grieftips #griefandloss #books #book #TheGrievingBrain #Neuroscience #wellbeing #selfcare #selfhelp #selfhelpbooks #selfhelpbook #selfhelppodcast #books #book #bookclub #bookpodcast #wellbeingpodcast #anxietyrelief #anxiety #depression #depressionawareness #relationships #podcasts #podcastshow #podcastshows #spotifypodcast #applepodcasts #iheartradio #googlepodcasts #feelgoodfromwithin #feelgoodfromwithinpodcast #feelgoodfromwithinwithyvetteleblowitz #podcasthost #YvetteLeBlowitz #yvetteleblowitz #health #wellness #healthpodcast #wellnesspodcast #selfcarepodcast #personaldevelopment #spaitgirl #spaitgirlpodcast #yvettesbookclub #feelgoodfromwithinbookclub #bookcommunity #mentalhealthadvocate #spaitgirlpodcast   

Grief is a Sneaky Bitch
Mary-Frances O'Connor | This is Your Brain on Grief

Grief is a Sneaky Bitch

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2023 66:12


Mary-Frances O'Connor is my special guest in this episode. I devoured her book, The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss last year and knew I needed to have a conversation with the author on this show. I'm grateful to share that late last year, I had the honor of sitting down with Mary-Frances to explore the fascinating work she has been doing studying the Grieving Brain. I'm 100% confident you will learn so much and appreciate the warmth and wisdom she brings to this conversation. EPISODE RESOURCES:Mary-Frances O'Connor is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. O'Connor earned a doctorate from the University of Arizona in 2004 and completed a fellowship at UCLA. Her work has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Biological Psychiatry, and Psychological Science, and featured in Newsweek, the New York Times, and The Washington Post.I HIGHLY RECOMMEND buying her book, The Grieving Brain here at Amazon or any major booksellers. You can also learn more about her and her work by visiting her website: www.maryfrancesoconnor.orgJUMP STRAIGHT INTO:(13:46) – Explains shift from understanding grief effect on physiology to effect on the brain(21:-00) – Mary-Frances explains our need for attachment and security and what happens when we lose that relationship.(36:45) – Explains how understanding how the brain maps our relationships and why each grief journey is unique (43:00) - Explains while it's common for us to think about the shoulda, coulda, wouldas in loss, rumination is actually a form of avoidance. She offers some alternative ways to consider the loss.NEW MERCH ALERTYou asked, I answered. I finally created some GSB Podcast merch from tees to hoodies to coffee mugs, journals and stickers. Head over to the Grief Happens Shop at www.lisakeefauver.com/griefhappensshop 3 WAYS TO STAY CONNECTED SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST on your favorite platform so you don't miss an episode. If you love the show, I'd love to invite you to leave a rating and write a review.INVITE ME TO YOUR INBOX to get behind-the-scenes on the podcast and all the grief support offered by our host, Lisa Keefauver, by signing up for her Not-So-Regular Newsletter at lisakeefauver.com/newsletter.IF YOU'RE FEELING SOCIAL, you can find her on all your favorite social channels too. @lisakeefauvermsw on Instagram, LinkedIn, Facebook, YouTube and TikTok. Check out her tweets @lisakeefauver Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Grieving Overdose Death

Hannah was loyal, fierce, and lived & loved with an unmatched ferocity and intensity. Her father, Cody, said she helped those who were marginalized, forgotten, left behind, misunderstood, hurting, or abused. She put others before herself, tried to take care of them, and made sure they were safe and okay. Hannah personally struggled for years with mental health and addiction. Depression and anxiety were her forever companions in a never-ending tug of war. On October 12, 2022, Cody lost his daughter to fentanyl poisoning. He copes with his loss by honoring his daughter's memory, listening to podcasts, and researching grief with books such as “The Grieving Brain” by Mary-Francis O'Connor, “Resilient Grieving” by Lucy Hone, and “Grieving Mindfully” by Sameet M. Kumar.   If you would like to tell your story about an overdose death, please contact Susan Claire at grievingoverdosedeath@gmail.com http://grievingoverdosedeath.libsyn.com/ Music provided by La Atlántida

PsychCrunch
Ep 32: How to face grief

PsychCrunch

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2023 26:01


Grief is a universal experience, but one which affects every individual differently. A grieving person might feel guilty, listless, frightened, or angry. And at a time when they most need support, the bereaved may find other people turning away from them, not really knowing how to talk to them about their feelings and the person they've lost. So how can we learn to better cope with grief in ourselves and in others? In this episode, Ella Rhodes, journalist for The Psychologist, speaks to two experts who are working to help us understand how people process grief and what can be done to support those who are grieving. Our guests are Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor, Associate Professor of Clinical Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Arizona and author of The Grieving Brain, and Jane Harris, psychotherapist and co-founder of The Good Grief Project. Episode credits: Presented and produced by Ella Rhodes. Script edits by Matthew Warren. Mixing and editing by Jeff Knowler. PsychCrunch theme music by Catherine Loveday and Jeff Knowler. Artwork by Tim Grimshaw. Further resources More information about The Good Grief Project can be found at the project's website Check out Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor's website for more on her book The Grieving Brain, as well as a list of publications including those discussed in this episode. Last year, Jon Sutton interviewed Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor for The Psychologist Also in The Psychologist: Elaine Kasket talks to Bjørn Johnson about his film Memory Box: Echoes of 9/11, and discusses the themes of the film with Jane Harris. PsychCrunch is sponsored by Routledge Psychology.

Growing Through It
031: Your Brain on Grief with Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor, Grief Expert, Neuroscientist, and Psychologist

Growing Through It

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2023 35:52


Losing a loved one is an unavoidable cost of having close relationships. When loss happens, there's a period of grieving that's experienced differently from person to person. But one thing happens to all of us – our brains try to solve the problem of where that person went. This deeply rooted neurobiology leads to a grieving process where our brains are trying to update with our new reality. Podcast guest, Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, says you haven't failed because you're feeling grief. Dr. O'Connor is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Her book, The Grieving Brain, brings together accessible science and practical knowledge that provides a more nuanced understanding of what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace.  In this episode, Mary-Frances describes what happens in our brains when we lose a loved one. She explains the difference between grief and grieving, and how it looks different for everyone. Mary-Frances debunks the five stages of grief, and we discuss how it's not a linear journey. Finally, she leaves us with some ways we may get stuck in grief and how to be a friend to someone grieving. For show notes and links mentioned, visit: https://bit.ly/GTIPodcastNotes To sign up for 2 Tip Tuesday, visit: https://bit.ly/2TipTuesday 2 Tip Tuesday is a weekly email that break down podcast episodes into practical resilience tips you can put into action straight away.  

Food Junkies Podcast
Episode 110: Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor

Food Junkies Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2023 53:53


Mary-Frances O'Connor, Ph.D. is an Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of Arizona where she conducts studies to better understand the grief process both psychologically and physiologically. She is a leader in the field of prolonged grief, a clinical condition in which people do not adjust to the acute feelings of grief and show increases in yearning, avoidance, and rumination. Her work primarily focuses on trying to tease out the mechanisms that cause this ongoing and severe reaction to loss. In particular, she is curious about the neurobiological, immune, and cardiovascular factors that vary between individual responses to grief. Dr. O'Connor's book: The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss gives us a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. O'Connor has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, and in this book, she makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible through her contagious enthusiasm and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and her real-life stories, The Grieving Brain does what the best popular science books do, combining storytelling, accessible science, and practical knowledge that will help us better understand what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace. In today's episode: How Mary-Frances got into the field of bereavement science Why it is so hard and takes so long to understand that when someone dies it is forever Why grief causes so many emotions What happens to the brain during grief How our understanding of grief has changed over time Why do some people adapt better than others when someone passes away What can we do when we are overwhelmed with grief? Can our grief change? Signature Question: If you could tell a younger version of yourself something about grief/grieving/bereavement – what would it be? Follow Dr. O'Connor: Website: https://maryfrancesoconnor.org/ Book: https://www.amazon.com/Grieving-Brain-Surprising-Science-Learn/dp/0062946242/ref=asc_df_0062946242/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=598249994043&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17161250467926381577&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9021321&hvtargid=pla-1676635241690&psc=1 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/maryfranceso Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doctormfoconnor/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryfrancesoconnor/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/doctormfo ANNOUNCEMENTS: Dr. Jen Unwin is holding a 3-day/2-night all-inclusive weekend retreat of learning, sharing, and support for anyone addicted to processed foods, sugar, or carbs. The event will take place March 3-5 in Ambleside, England, and will include 6 months of monthly online support sessions. All proceeds go to the Public Health Collaboration. Email fgriffiths0@googlemail.com or jenunwin@hotmail.co.uk There is still time to join us for the no-cost workshop in the month of February. Wednesdays starting Feb 1st thru the 22nd at 2p EST/ 7p UK Molly and Clarissa will host 90-minute sessions to process the Foundations Modules. Purchase the Foundations Course for $200 USD today and have access to the course and replays of the LIVE 4-week sessions. Molly and Clarissa are also excited to let you know that Viktoria Hamma, Chronic Pain and Wellness coach is returning in February with 3 hypnotherapy sessions to go along with the Foundation Modules. Her sessions will cover Mindful Eating, Emotional Eating, and Self-Compassion for $ 50 USD. Contact Molly & Clarissa for details at info@sweetsobriety.ca. Foundations Modules: https://www.sweetsobriety.ca/courses/sweet-sobriety-foundations Hypnotherapy: https://www.sweetsobriety.ca/live-class/hypnotherapy-for-mindful-eating-emotional-eating-and-self-compassion/register   The content of our show is educational only. It does not supplement or supersede your healthcare provider's professional relationship and direction. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified mental health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition, substance use disorder, or mental health concern.

The Selfish Griever
Grief Before & After Death For A Special Needs Mom 003

The Selfish Griever

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2023 50:00


Today's guest is Carlo's mom, Lianne Dixon, whom Whitney met at a grief conference in August 2022 at Lianne's workshop for parents who lost a child with special needs. She speaks from the Netherlands, where her family moved to, from South Africa, for Carlo to have access to better care. He passed away 7 months after they moved, in October 2020, due to unexpected health complications. Lianne shares the evolution of her faith over her grief journey that started before Carlo died, when he was diagnosed at birth with brain trauma and a life of always needing special care. Her search for support has led her to many resources and asking “why did this happen?” Here are links to some of the resources she mentioned: It's OK That You're Not OK by Megan Devine @refugeingrief The Grieving Brain by Mary-Frances O'Connor We hope you enjoy and if the show resonates with you then welcome to our community. Please subscribe so you will be alerted each Friday when a new episode releases. Also, taking a few minutes to rate and review the podcast will help other listeners find our community - we appreciate your support. For more information and support you can connect with Whitney directly on Instagram @theselfishgriever or at www.theselfishgriever.comShe reads all her DMs personally and will respond as soon as she can.Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay Podcast hosted on Spreaker

Beyond The Clinic: Living Well With Melanoma
The Grieving Brain: The Science of Love and Loss

Beyond The Clinic: Living Well With Melanoma

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2023 31:40


Our guest Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor is a renowned grief expert, author, neuroscientist, and an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss, and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. In this episode, she discusses groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss, and learning about the changes that occur in the brain during the grief process, and how we can develop a toolkit to go about restoring a meaningful life while grieving. In her new book, The Grieving Brain, Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, gives us a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. O'Connor has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, and in this book, she makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible through her contagious enthusiasm, and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and her real-life stories, The Grieving Brain does what the best popular science books do, combining storytelling, accessible science, and practical knowledge that will help us better understand what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace. Learn more at her website: https://www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/ About Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, investigating the effects of grief on the brain and the body. O'Connor earned a PhD in clinical psychology from the University of Arizona in 2004, and completed a post-doctoral fellowship in psychoneuroimmunology at the UCLA Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior. Following a faculty appointment at UCLA Cousins Center for Psychoneuroimmunology, she returned to the University of Arizona in 2012. Having grown up in Montana, she now lives in sunny Tucson, Arizona. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aimatmelanoma/support

The Roundtable
Grief expert and neuroscientist Mary-Frances O'Connor on the science of how we learn from love and loss

The Roundtable

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2023 14:06


Renowned grief expert and neuroscientist Mary-Frances O'Connor shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss, and learning. Her new book is "The Grieving Brain."

Moms Don’t Have Time to Read Books
Mary-Frances O'Connor, THE GRIEVING BRAIN: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss

Moms Don’t Have Time to Read Books

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2022 26:02


Guest host Allison Pataki speaks to renowned grief expert and neuroscientist Mary-Frances O'Connor, who combines trailblazing neuroimaging work and field research, and beautiful storytelling in her new book The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss. Mary-Frances discusses the myth of the five stages of grieving (it's not linear or finite!) and the fascinating brain science behind grief and grieving (from love bonding to uncharacteristic bursts of anger to believing, for a split second, that they are still alive). She also explains how we can best support those who are grieving and shares her best advice for aspiring authors. Purchase on Amazon or Bookshop.Amazon: https://bit.ly/3WVFvpaBookshop: https://bit.ly/3CeB3tzSubscribe to Zibby's weekly newsletter here.Purchase Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books merch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Choice Mapping Makes You Mentally STRONGer
45 Days of grief Episode 13 | The Grieving Brain by Mary Francis O Connor

Choice Mapping Makes You Mentally STRONGer

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2022 11:05


The Grieving Brain is an insightful examination of what happens in our brains when we are faced with death and loss. Through her research-backed approach, Mary Francis O'Connor provides readers not only with an understanding of why we grieve but also practical strategies for managing our emotions during this difficult time so that we may move forward on the path towards healing. If you are struggling with your own grief journey or simply want to learn more about this subject matter, then The Grieving Brain is definitely worth checking out!

Charlotte Talks
How 'The Grieving Brain' learns from love and loss

Charlotte Talks

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2022 49:33


All of us experience loss, and with that comes grief. Given its universality, it is sometimes difficult to understand why grief can be so devastating. Why? And can we emerge from grief stronger? We explore that.

New Books Network
Mary-Frances O'Connor, "The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss" (HarperOne, 2022)

New Books Network

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2022 52:26


For as long as humans have existed, we have struggled when a loved one dies. Poets and playwrights have written about the dark cloak of grief, the deep yearning, how devastating heartache feels. But until now, we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience. In The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss (HarperOne, 2022), neuroscientist and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, gives us a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. O'Connor has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, and in this book, she makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible through her contagious enthusiasm, and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and her real-life stories, The Grieving Brain does what the best popular science books do, combining storytelling, accessible science, and practical knowledge that will help us better understand what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace. Renee Garfinkel, Ph.D. is a psychologist, writer, Middle East television commentator and host of The New Books Network's Van Leer Jerusalem Series on Ideas. Write her at reneeg@vanleer.org.il. She's on Twitter @embracingwisdom. She blogs here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

New Books in Anthropology
Mary-Frances O'Connor, "The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss" (HarperOne, 2022)

New Books in Anthropology

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2022 52:26


For as long as humans have existed, we have struggled when a loved one dies. Poets and playwrights have written about the dark cloak of grief, the deep yearning, how devastating heartache feels. But until now, we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience. In The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss (HarperOne, 2022), neuroscientist and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, gives us a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. O'Connor has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, and in this book, she makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible through her contagious enthusiasm, and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and her real-life stories, The Grieving Brain does what the best popular science books do, combining storytelling, accessible science, and practical knowledge that will help us better understand what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace. Renee Garfinkel, Ph.D. is a psychologist, writer, Middle East television commentator and host of The New Books Network's Van Leer Jerusalem Series on Ideas. Write her at reneeg@vanleer.org.il. She's on Twitter @embracingwisdom. She blogs here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/anthropology

New Books in Sociology
Mary-Frances O'Connor, "The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss" (HarperOne, 2022)

New Books in Sociology

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2022 52:26


For as long as humans have existed, we have struggled when a loved one dies. Poets and playwrights have written about the dark cloak of grief, the deep yearning, how devastating heartache feels. But until now, we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience. In The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss (HarperOne, 2022), neuroscientist and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, gives us a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. O'Connor has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, and in this book, she makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible through her contagious enthusiasm, and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and her real-life stories, The Grieving Brain does what the best popular science books do, combining storytelling, accessible science, and practical knowledge that will help us better understand what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace. Renee Garfinkel, Ph.D. is a psychologist, writer, Middle East television commentator and host of The New Books Network's Van Leer Jerusalem Series on Ideas. Write her at reneeg@vanleer.org.il. She's on Twitter @embracingwisdom. She blogs here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/sociology

New Books in Science
Mary-Frances O'Connor, "The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss" (HarperOne, 2022)

New Books in Science

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2022 52:26


For as long as humans have existed, we have struggled when a loved one dies. Poets and playwrights have written about the dark cloak of grief, the deep yearning, how devastating heartache feels. But until now, we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience. In The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss (HarperOne, 2022), neuroscientist and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, gives us a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. O'Connor has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, and in this book, she makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible through her contagious enthusiasm, and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and her real-life stories, The Grieving Brain does what the best popular science books do, combining storytelling, accessible science, and practical knowledge that will help us better understand what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace. Renee Garfinkel, Ph.D. is a psychologist, writer, Middle East television commentator and host of The New Books Network's Van Leer Jerusalem Series on Ideas. Write her at reneeg@vanleer.org.il. She's on Twitter @embracingwisdom. She blogs here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/science

New Books in Psychology
Mary-Frances O'Connor, "The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss" (HarperOne, 2022)

New Books in Psychology

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2022 52:26


For as long as humans have existed, we have struggled when a loved one dies. Poets and playwrights have written about the dark cloak of grief, the deep yearning, how devastating heartache feels. But until now, we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience. In The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss (HarperOne, 2022), neuroscientist and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, gives us a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. O'Connor has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, and in this book, she makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible through her contagious enthusiasm, and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and her real-life stories, The Grieving Brain does what the best popular science books do, combining storytelling, accessible science, and practical knowledge that will help us better understand what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace. Renee Garfinkel, Ph.D. is a psychologist, writer, Middle East television commentator and host of The New Books Network's Van Leer Jerusalem Series on Ideas. Write her at reneeg@vanleer.org.il. She's on Twitter @embracingwisdom. She blogs here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/psychology

New Books in Neuroscience
Mary-Frances O'Connor, "The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss" (HarperOne, 2022)

New Books in Neuroscience

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2022 52:26


For as long as humans have existed, we have struggled when a loved one dies. Poets and playwrights have written about the dark cloak of grief, the deep yearning, how devastating heartache feels. But until now, we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience. In The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss (HarperOne, 2022), neuroscientist and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, gives us a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. O'Connor has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, and in this book, she makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible through her contagious enthusiasm, and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and her real-life stories, The Grieving Brain does what the best popular science books do, combining storytelling, accessible science, and practical knowledge that will help us better understand what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace. Renee Garfinkel, Ph.D. is a psychologist, writer, Middle East television commentator and host of The New Books Network's Van Leer Jerusalem Series on Ideas. Write her at reneeg@vanleer.org.il. She's on Twitter @embracingwisdom. She blogs here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/neuroscience

Van Leer Institute Series on Ideas
Mary-Frances O'Connor, "The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss" (HarperOne, 2022)

Van Leer Institute Series on Ideas

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2022 52:26


For as long as humans have existed, we have struggled when a loved one dies. Poets and playwrights have written about the dark cloak of grief, the deep yearning, how devastating heartache feels. But until now, we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience. In The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss (HarperOne, 2022), neuroscientist and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, gives us a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. O'Connor has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, and in this book, she makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible through her contagious enthusiasm, and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and her real-life stories, The Grieving Brain does what the best popular science books do, combining storytelling, accessible science, and practical knowledge that will help us better understand what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace. Renee Garfinkel, Ph.D. is a psychologist, writer, Middle East television commentator and host of The New Books Network's Van Leer Jerusalem Series on Ideas. Write her at reneeg@vanleer.org.il. She's on Twitter @embracingwisdom. She blogs here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/van-leer-institute

Shapes Of Grief
Ep. 100 Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor on Grieving as a Learning Process, The Grieving Brain

Shapes Of Grief

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2022 69:43


I have been following the research of Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor for almost a decade now, so I was absolutely delighted when she published her book ‘The Grieving Brain' last year. I am always hungry to learn about grief and specifically, what can the science tell us about how to make sure we are supporting the bereaved in the most compassionate and effective way possible. This book affirmed a lot of what I experience in clinical practice and also taught me more about the grieving process. Loss of a loved one is something everyone experiences, and for as long as humans have existed, we have struggled when a loved one dies. Poets and playwrights have written about the dark cloak of grief, the deep yearning, and devastating heartache of loss. But until now, we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience. In THE GRIEVING BRAIN: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss (HarperOne; February 1, 2022; Hardcover) renowned grief expert, neuroscientist, and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor, Ph.D., shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss, and learning. In The Grieving Brain, O'Connor, who has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, reveals a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. She makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, and how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Significantly, O'Connor debunks Kubler-Ross' enduring idea of the “Five Stages of Grief” and sets a new paradigm for understanding grief on a neurological level. -More- Based on O'Connor's own trailblazing neuroimaging work, research in the field, and real-life stories, The Grieving Brain brings together accessible science and practical knowledge that provides a more nuanced understanding of what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace. The Grieving Brain addresses: • Why it's so hard to understand that a loved one has died and is gone forever • Why grief causes so many emotions—sadness, anger, blame, guilt, and yearning • Why grieving takes so long • What happens in the brain during grief • The distinction between grief and complicated grief • Why we ruminate so much after we lose a loved one • How we go about restoring a meaningful life while grieving. Ground-breaking, fascinating and accessible, The Grieving Brain is essential reading for everyone who's lost someone and for anyone looking for a way to heal. ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. O'Connor earned a doctorate from the University of Arizona in 2004 and completed a fellowship at UCLA. Following a faculty appointment at UCLA Cousins Center for Psychoneuroimmunology, she returned to the University of Arizona in 2012. Her work has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Biological Psychiatry, and Psychological Science, and featured in Newsweek, the New York Times, and The Washington Post. Having grown up in Montana, she now lives in Tucson, Arizona. For more information go to https://www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/ THE GRIEVING BRAIN The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss By Mary-Frances O'Connor HarperOne, an imprint of HarperCollins Publishers Hardcover | ISBN: 9780062946232 www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/book Twitter: @doctormfo FaceBook: @maryfranceso Instagram: @doctormfoconnor LinkedIn: Mary-Frances O'Connor

The Hospice Chaplaincy Show with Saul Ebema
A conversation with Mary-Frances O'Connor on the grieving brain

The Hospice Chaplaincy Show with Saul Ebema

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2022 41:02


EDUCATIONPh.D., Clinical PsychologyUniversity of Arizona, Tucson, AZ1998 – 2004 Bachelor of Arts, PsychologyNorthwestern University, Evanston, IL1992 – 1996PROFESSIONAL APPOINTMENTSDirector of Clinical Training University of Arizona, Department of Psychology2019 – presentAssociate Professor of PsychologyUniversity of Arizona, Department of Psychology2017 – presentAssistant Professor of PsychologyUniversity of Arizona, Department of Psychology2012 – 2017Assistant Professor in Residence UCLA, Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral Science2007 – 2012 Postdoctoral Fellow UCLA, Cousins Center for Psychoneuroimmunology2004 – 2007Intern, Health TrackUCLA, Neuropsychiatric Institute and Hospital2003 – 2004

Open to Hope
Mary-Frances O'Connor: The Grieving Brain

Open to Hope

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2022 31:06


Have you considered the impact of grief on your brain? It is time that you did! Join Dr's Gloria and Dr. Heidi Horsley and their guest Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor for […] The post Mary-Frances O'Connor: The Grieving Brain appeared first on Open to Hope.

The Widowed Mom Podcast
Ep #170: The Grieving Brain: An Interview with Mary-Frances O'Connor

The Widowed Mom Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2022 57:14


Whether you are on a grief journey that feels never-ending, or you're trying to figure out how to support someone who's currently grieving, you can benefit from hearing a variety of angles on grief. This week, author and leader in the field of complicated grief Mary-Frances O'Connor shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens to our grieving brains.   Get full show notes and more information here: https://www.coachingwithkrista.com/170

Grief Matters
"The Grieving Brain" - how our brain process grieving a loss.

Grief Matters

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2022 20:03


Join us for a discussion with Dr. Mary Frances O'Connor, as she discusses her book "The Grieving Brain - The Surprising Science of how we Learn from Love and Loss".  Dr. O'Connor discusses the many ways our brains process grief, how our neurons help us to form attachments, and how with loss our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, or how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Support the show

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Widower’s Journey
Ep 33- Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, author of the book "The Grieving Brain"

Widower’s Journey

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2022 64:54


Join our host, Herb Knoll, as he visits with Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor, Ph.D., and author of the breakout book, The Grieving Brain – The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss. The Grieving Brain brings together accessible science and practical knowledge that provides an understanding of what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace.  Dr. O'Connor debunks Kubler-Ross' enduring idea of the “Five Stages of Grief” and sets a new paradigm for understanding grief on a neurological level.  This understanding can lead to timely recoveries from sorrow initiated by loss. You won't want to miss this lively exchange between two highly rated experts from the world of grief.

The Courageously.u Podcast
113. Mary-Frances O'Connor: What Happens in Our Brain When We Grieve

The Courageously.u Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2022 58:03


Mary-Frances O'Connor, Ph.D is a renowned grief expert, neuroscientist, author, and psychologist who has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain. She's an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. In her new must-read book, The Grieving Brain, Mary-Frances shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, and she sets a new paradigm for understanding grief on a neurological level.  We talk about... The problem with the five stages of grief model What happens in our brain when we grieve The difference between grief and grieving Why processing grief can feel so hard The role rumination plays in grieving How grieving is a form of learning The difference between grief and depression The importance of therapy while grieving What you can do to help improve insomnia after a loss How to best support someone who is grieving   Episode goodies...  Get a FREE bonus sample pack with your first order of LMNT when you click here.    Like the show? Please leave me a review here. Even just one sentence helps! Post a screenshot of you listening on Instagram and tag me at courageously.u so I can send you a virtual hug.    TODAY'S SHOW NOTES: https://courageouslyu.com/mary-frances-oconnor/   HANGOUT WITH ME ON INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/courageously.u/

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson
The Grieving Brain with Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2022 70:02


There's a lot of loss in the world these days, both in our individual lives and in our broader communities, and with those losses comes grief. Grief is one of the most challenging emotions to be with, and it can be difficult to offer generalized advice because everyone's experience of grief is profoundly unique. On today's episode of Being Well, Forrest is joined by one of the world's leading researchers on grief, Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor, to help us better understand grief and grieving. They explore why grief is such a unique and intense emotion, how grief works in the brain, the problems with generalized models like the “five stages of grief,” and how we can learn to live with loss.About Our Guest: Mary-Frances is a neuroscientist, clinical psychologist, and associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. She's also the author of the wonderful book The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss. Watch the Episode: Prefer watching video? You can watch this episode on YouTube.Key Topics:0:00: Introduction and disclaimer3:35: Mary-Frances' personal background6:55: Distinguishing grief from grieving9:20: Self-criticism, and the over-focus on recovery11:20: Grief isn't "something to get over"13:00: Attachment, and our neurological map16:00: Prediction error19:30: Complicated grief25:00: Spiritual practice, or having a worldview that incorporates death28:05: Is there a ‘normal' grieving process?35:25: Pathology, and normal human experiences46:00: Neurological overview of grief in the brain50:40: The Dual Process Model of Grief54:10: Sometimes distraction is okay56:15: Therapeutic practices and learning from grief1:01:00: Grief and its relationship to love1:03:40: Recap Rick's Grief and Loss Workshop: We all face losses in life, from separation and disappointment to shocking, even traumatic events. Join Rick August 13 and 14 for 7 hours of LIVE, online teaching focused on learning simple, powerful practices that help us come to terms with them, heal, and find happiness again. Use coupon code BEINGWELL25 at checkout for an additional 25% off the registration price.Support the Podcast: We're now on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link.Sponsors:Bombas designed their socks, shirts, and underwear to be the clothes you can't wait to put on every day. Visit bombas.com/beingwell and use code beingwell for 20% off. Join over a million people using BetterHelp, the world's largest online counseling platform. Visit betterhelp.com/beingwell for 10% off your first month!Want to sleep better? Try the Calm app! Visit calm.com/beingwell for 40% off a premium subscription.Ready to shake up your protein Ritual? Being Well listeners get 10% off during your first 3 months at ritual.com/WELL.Connect with the show:Subscribe on iTunesFollow Forrest on YouTubeFollow us on InstagramFollow Forrest on InstagramFollow Rick on FacebookFollow Forrest on FacebookVisit Forrest's website

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning
Howard Rankin, Ph.D on ”Falling to Grace: The Art and Science of Redemption”

Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2022 61:05


“The one who falls and gets back up is so much stronger than the one who never fell” Watch this interview on YouTube here https://youtu.be/BkGLDGqmfUU On the episode you will learn: ✔ How a personal story from Howard Rankin, can help all of us reach our highest levels of potential. ✔ The power of honesty and truthfulness with relationships. ✔ Why seeing the "spirit" in others is so very important. ✔ The steps we can expect to take if a "Fall" happens so we can recover quickly and gracefully. ✔ The importance of rising above our "primitive brain" when dealing with difficult situations. ✔ What happens to our physical and mental health if we hold "trauma" within. Welcome back to The Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast, for EPISODE #229. I'm Andrea Samadi, author, and educator, with a passion for learning, understanding difficult concepts, and breaking them down so that we can all use and apply the most current research to improve our productivity and results in our schools, sports environments, and modern workplaces. Today we are welcoming Howard Rankin back for the 4th time to the podcast, to cover his newly released book, Falling to Grace.[i] Before reading Howard's book this month, I had no idea of his story. I saw his book come out in April, on his birthday and knew we would have him back on the show to discuss it, knowing it would be full of thought-provoking lessons, but I had no idea just how personal, and deep his story would be. If you recall, Howard Rankin first appeared on the podcast this time last year for EPISODE #146[ii] where he taught us “How Not to Think” and that our thinking is full of cognitive biases. While reading this new book, I found myself asking a question, that he would answer later in the book, showing me that it's easy to jump to a conclusion but that we should all be aware of the “limitations of our thinking.” This book also brought to light that we are all “spiritual beings having a human experience” and the importance of seeing the spirit in everyone, and treating them without judgment as we never know what their internal struggles might be.  We learned from Dr. Marie Gervais on EPISODE #214[iii] on her book The Spirit of Work that there's a shift when can see someone's spiritual side, and can also connect science to everything that we do. If you have ever looked at someone and noticed their spirit, you will know exactly what I mean. I'll never forget the first time I looked at someone and saw them shining brightly, seeing their potential that they were unaware of. They were sitting in front of me, and it's a moment I'll never forget, and was probably one of the reasons why I do what I do today. We all have tremendous potential within us, and this podcast was designed to help us to become aware of it, then use it.   But sometimes things happen in our life that make us question the direction we are going, but there is always a way around life's obstacles. Howard's book shows us that we can move beyond anything and connect our internal struggles to the most current brain research, in this quest to move towards redemption and healing. I knew Howard lost his license as a psychologist and that it was important to cover, but I didn't know how…which didn't really matter to me. None of us are exempt from the story Howard will share—no one is exempt from Falling, in our personal or professional lives, but if we do, will we know how to Fall to Grace, with the lessons Howard shares for us? Howard's story of tremendous loss and pain hold lessons we can all benefit from, especially if we want to reach our highest levels of productivity and achievement in this thing we call life. And if there's something inside holding us back (like Howard will share) or anything else that might be bothering us, internally—that there is a way around it, to what he calls redemption—and it's available for anyone who wants to do the work to achieve it. “We can be redeemed only to the extent to which we see ourselves.” – Martin Buber Let's welcome back Howard Rankin for a 4th time to the podcast and see what we can learn from his lessons of Falling to Grace. Welcome Howard, it's wonderful to see you again. Thanks so much for coming back for a 4th time to the podcast. I've got to say, your story is beyond painful for anyone to read, and witness first-hand the tremendous loss that occurred. It was heartbreaking to know this happened to you (and your family) and like the note I sent to you when I began reading your book, the lessons you are sharing with us are priceless because none of us are exempt from falling, but your experience gives us a pathway to fall with grace. Thank you for sharing such a personal story to help others find their way back up in a way we can all take something of value from and apply it in our own lives. INTRO Q: You say in the beginning of the book that you use your own story “mainly as a guide to the challenges of illuminating one's conscience and what that entails” and that people can read the details about your circumstances in the appendix but the general idea is that you were a well-known psychologist with a very good reputation, had appeared on ‘The View' and was featured on 20/20 as well as in many other media outlets.  Then you crossed a line into this grey area that changed everything for you. For those who want to read your entire story, they can read your book, for today's interview I want to focus not so much on what happened, but for someone listening, who might be struggling with something internally, what can we all learn from your experience about the importance of dealing with those difficult emotions of guilt or shame? Q1: You mention in your book that “While some studies have suggested that as many as 70% of people who experience trauma come back stronger, there has been concern that this can be misleading and there are clearly large numbers of people who struggle to get back to pre-trauma baseline, or never recover at all.” I noticed during a recent interview with someone who had recently lost his license that there was tremendous pain around everything that stemmed from false accusations that were written online, to everything he went through, and he lost so much in the process. Whether someone is in the public eye, or not, your book is a guide to help people begin the healing process, (after a Fall) but can you describe the steps or stages that people should consider going through while rebuilding their life after such a significant loss? Where does someone begin? Q2: As I was reading your story, I kept thinking “How could this entire situation have been prevented in the first place” (I'm sure this thinking is flawed—first off, what cognitive bias[iv] would “how could this all have been prevented” be? What trap do I create when I'm thinking like this? Q2B: Then I wondered, for the co-author of the book Intuitive Rationality[v], was there anything that you saw or felt back then that might have alerted you to “this person could destroy my life, career and future?” Q2C: I thought about this question while hiking this morning. Why couldn't both parties rise above their primitive sides and have fallen to grace together? Is emotional intelligence not enough? At what point do we all need to be aware of personality disorders? Q3: When you talked about false accusations and that “the limited brain doesn't easily undo past associations and emotions especially to 'flashbulb' moments, critical events of high emotion. To change the association requires some effort and the fact is that few people are prepared to make the effort to go beyond the first biased, egocentric thought that comes into their minds about anything.” In a world where words spread fast online, and are permanent, how do you deal with your personal life being broadcast all over the internet for people to read and put their own spin on whatever it is they are reading, with their own cognitive biases? 3B: When someone says something about another person online, that's enough to highly consider a lawsuit, since this type of behavior can damage a person's future. I remember you mentioned there was something written online that you wanted removed (and it's not there now, or I would have been sure to find a way to help you to remove it). What did you learn about the importance of knowing our “digital imprint” and when do you know when to take legal action, or just let some things go? Q4: You mentioned that there will be people who make up their minds based on what they read online, but for the people who know you, nothing changes, like your son who said, “I know who you are.”  What did you learn from your son when he said that? 4B: How did you handle the people who you thought were your friends?  Q5: Some lessons stuck out that struck a chord for me because I know you are right, but it still burns me to think there are people like this in the world. You said, “There will always be someone wanting to profit from your misery.” Your advice: For the most part the best plan is to ignore them. Don't give them any power over you and that “your redemption really depends on you acting differently. Your redemption is about not getting drawn into useless fights and emotional spats but rising beyond that primitive mindset.” Besides meditation and long jogs, how did you get to this place of rising above where most of us would be operating at a lower level? Q5B: How have you learned to listen to other people's criticism without being defensive? Q6: How did an understanding of the brain help you here? Q7: What did you learn from Mary-Frances O'Connor and The Grieving Brain[vi] that can help someone to get through Grief with their Brain in Mind? We covered this question in the beginning. One of the first lessons I learned from Bob Proctor when I worked with him all those years ago was the importance of taking responsibility for my thoughts, feelings and actions, and never blaming anyone else for what I think, feel and especially my results. You said it loud and clear that “you cannot escape the hell without taking responsibility” and that “until you take responsibility you have no credibility.” Can you explain that? Q8: What did you learn about how trauma impacts the body? (Bessel van der Kalk and Dr. Lief). Why is forgiveness important for our physical and mental health? Q9: If I was to sum up the top lessons learned from your story, Falling to Grace, what would they be? Howard, I want to thank you very much for writing this book to help all of us to learn how to fall to grace, and reminding us that we are all human beings, hard wired with emotions (Jaak Panksepp) and we can with an understanding of our brain, learn how to control the feelings we have attached to these hard-wired emotions, helping us to rise above our primitive selves, and be our best selves, like you have shown we all can accomplish. Thank you so much for all you contribute to the world with your books, podcast and teachings. I've learned How Not to Think, and many lessons from the importance of Falling to Grace that would be a blessing if we could all master in our lifetime.  Thanks Howard. To learn more about Dr. Howard Rankin Facebook page; https://www.facebook.com/HowardRankinBooks/ A website where he posts blogs: https://ithinkthereforeiamwrong.com/ LinkedIn and Instagram Email: DrHRankin@gmail.com WEBSITE FOR THIS TOPIC www.hownottothink.com NEW BOOK FALLING TO GRACE: https://www.amazon.com/F alling-Grace-Art-Science-Redemption-ebook/dp/B09KHK9ZC1 REFERENCES: [i] Falling to Grace, by Howard Rankin, Published April 2022  https://www.amazon.com/Falling-Grace-Art-Science-Redemption-ebook/dp/B09KHK9ZC1 [ii]Neuroscience Meets SEL Podcast EPISODE #146 with Howard Rankin on “How Not to Think” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/expert-in-psychology-cognitive-neuroscience-and-neurotechnology-howard-rankin-phd-on-how-not-to-think/ [iii] Neuroscience Meets SEL Podcast EPISODE #214 with Dr. Marie Gervais on “The Spirit of Work: Connecting Science Business Practices and Sacred Texts for a Happier and More Productive Workplace” https://andreasamadi.podbean.com/e/marie-gervais-phd-on-the-spirit-of-work-connecting-science-business-practices-and-sacred-texts-for-a-happier-and-more-productive-workplace/ [iv] List of Cognitive Biases https://thedecisionlab.com/biases?utm_campaign=TDL+Dynamic&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ad=564666141031&hsa_src=g&hsa_cam=14567061057&hsa_kw=&hsa_grp=127713121155&hsa_tgt=dsa-19959388920&hsa_ver=3&hsa_acc=8441935193&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8amWBhCYARIsADqZJoXVRqivwle3n2OaSqUArDe26i61KSN1OC6vBlEw4rDYwHz7EaTP6QkaAlIhEALw_wcB [v] Intuality AI Website https://intualityai.com/ [vi] The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss by Mary Frances-O'Connor Feb. 2022  https://www.amazon.com/Grieving-Brain-Surprising-Science-Learn-ebook/dp/B093ZZ7HZY  

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen
The Map of Loss (Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2022 46:43


“I think I find great comfort in this idea that when you form that bond, when you fall in love, your neurons are actually changed the way that the electrical firing patterns happen in your brain, the way that proteins are folded are changed because of this one and only person that you have spent time with. And from that perspective, when my dad died, he is still here literally right in my physical brain. He's physically in my brain. Now. That's not, I mean, that's data on the one hand, but I also find it comforting on the other hand that he is still with me. And because it's with the brain that I perceive the whole world, he's also in a sense with me as I experience everything.” So says neuroscientist and professor Mary-Frances O'Connor, author of THE GRIEVING BRAIN. In her work, O'Connor studies the ways in which grief, loss, and bereavement imprint on the way we process the world—unable to physically map and locate the person who is now missing from our interpersonal landscapes, we must find new ways to navigate our lives, working around holes that feel, quite frankly, unbridgeable. I loved our conversation, because we explored both science and faith, as well as the enduring reality of grief: Those who have experienced loss understand that grief never goes away, even when you move past the stage of unrelenting grieving. We also talked about the new DSM-5 diagnosis of prolonged grief disorder, the pitfalls of rumination, and the essential nature of patience—both for ourselves and each other. At a time in our culture where we're coping with massive loss—from the personal, to the cultural, to the environmental, O'Connor's framework and language feels critical for understanding where we're at. Particularly, as she points out, because the oscillations of grief work—moving from pain and anguish to moments of laughter and joy—is actually the framework for true mental health. Mental health is not maintaining happiness as status quo, she notes, it's the flexibility to move through all emotions, including the most difficult ones. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Unchosen Fork
Grief : A New Understanding

The Unchosen Fork

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 46:45


How does grief work? Kelly and Sarah tackle the big topic with a big guest.  Dr. Mary Frances O'Connor joins them for a conversation about grief and her new book, The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss. Dr. O'Connor shares her thoughtful insights and research on how grief is not a single circular series of phases, preparing for inevitable hard moments in one's life, and how grief can be a community experience. Kelly discusses how The Grieving Brain arrived at the exact right moment and Sarah fangirls out. Join us on The Unchosen Fork.Guest Host Bio:Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. O'Connor earned a doctorate from the University of Arizona in 2004 and completed a fellowship at UCLA. Following a faculty appointment at UCLA Cousins Center for Psychoneuroimmunology, she returned to the University of Arizona in 2012. Her work has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Biological Psychiatry, and Psychological Science, and featured in Newsweek, the New York Times, and The Washington Post. Having grown up in Montana, she now lives in Tucson, Arizona. For more information go to www.maryfrancesoconnor.com.Resources:O'Connor, M.-F. (2022). The Grieving Brain: New discoveries about love, loss, and learning. HarperOne. American Psychiatric Association. (2013). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (5th ed.). https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425596Follow the Unchosen Fork:FacebookInstagramDisclaimer: The contents of this podcast, including text, graphics, images, and other materials created and/or disseminated by The Unchosen Fork are for informational purposes only. The Contents are NOT intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition, before beginning a nutritional plan and/or taking nutritional supplements. Reliance on any information provided by this podcast, others content appearing on this podcast, or other visitors to the Site is solely at your own risk. None of the contents of this podcast are intended to be relied upon for medical treatment or diagnosis. The Unchosen Fork, their affiliates, nor any of the host family members assumes any liability or responsibility for damage or injury to person or property arising from any use of any product, service, information, or instruction contained on this Podcast.Support the show

Roll With The Punches
The Grieving Brain: The Science Of Love & Loss | Mary-Frances O'Connor - 368

Roll With The Punches

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2022 52:36


Did you know grief changes our brain? As a matter of fact, Mary-Frances shares with me that so do relationships and bonding. I got curious around the whole 'science of grief' last month when I found myself in the thick of it all and wondering 'what's the purpose of this physical, emotional and psychological response to loss. So I found the leader in the field of research around complicated grief, Mary-Frances O'Connor. Her work primarily focuses on trying to tease out the mechanisms that cause this ongoing and severe reaction to loss. In particular, she is curious about the neurobiological, immune, and cardiovascular factors that vary between individual responses to grief. Enjoy! MARY-FRANCES O'CONNOR Website: www.maryfrancesoconnor.com  TIFFANEE COOK Linktree:  https://linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: www.rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn:  www.linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook:  www.facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram:  www.instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/tiffaneeandco   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mike Behind the Mic
Mike Behind the Mic: Mike talks to author of "The Grieving Brain"

Mike Behind the Mic

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2022 14:04


We all grieve in different ways, and some seem to cope better than others. To try to get a better understanding of grief, Mike Dubberly talked with Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor, a neuroscientist and psychology professor at the University of Arizona, about her research now put into a book titled, "The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss." Dr. O'Connor shares some of the groundbreaking discoveries they learned about what happens in our brain when we grieve, perhaps opening a window to processing love, loss and grief with a different perspective.

Anxiety Book Club
Episode 33 - The Grieving Brain

Anxiety Book Club

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2022 47:04


Join me in conversation with Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor, associate professor of psychology at University of Arizona, and expert in the neuroscience of grief and loss. We discuss what happens to our brains when we lose those close to us, and how to explain grieving behavior, including what makes it so challenging. We also dispel some myths about the grieving process and add nuance to the conventional wisdom around what to expect during the "normal" grieving process.  The Grieving Brain

10% Happier with Dan Harris
450: The Science of Loss and Recovery | Mary-Frances O'Connor

10% Happier with Dan Harris

Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2022 66:41


Very few of us will live a life without loss. As part of our Mental Health Reboot series in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, this week's episodes talk a lot about grieving. Mary-Frances O'Connor, an expert in bereavement research, explores the science of how we grieve and experience loss, whether it's a job or a loved one. Mary-Frances O'Connor is an Associate Professor of Clinical Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Arizona, where she is also the Director of Clinical Training. And she is the author of a book called The Grieving Brain.In this episode we talk about: The distinction between grief and grievingHow her Buddhist practice has influenced her understanding of griefWhether or not we can ever quote/unquote “get over it”Why she argues for “a really big toolkit of coping strategies” How to understand the work of Elizabeth Kübler-Ross todayWhat grieving looks like in a pandemicWhat to say to people who are grievingThe new diagnosis of prolonged grief disorderContent Warning: Brief mention of suicide. Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/mary-frances-oconnor-450See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The Whole Care Network
The Grieving Brain with Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor

The Whole Care Network

Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2022 52:16


Ironically, this podcast release date coincides with the one year anniversary of my Mother's death. While we can all acknowledge the emotional aspect of grief, our brains are very much a part of the process.  Today my guest is Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor, author of The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss. Dr O'Connor is also an Associate Professor of Clinical Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Arizona, and the Director of the grief loss and social stress (GLASS) Lab, where she investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Her research focuses on the physiological correlates of emotion, in particular the wide range of physical and emotional responses during bereavement, including yearning and isolation.  Click here for show notes: https://www.heyroe.com/_files/ugd/ca1252_393f6432244f4e988a14d591b728c62c.pdf

Daughterhood The Podcast
The Grieving Brain with Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor

Daughterhood The Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2022 52:16


Ironically, this podcast release date coincides with the one year anniversary of my Mother's death. While we can all acknowledge the emotional aspect of grief, our brains are very much a part of the process.  Today my guest is Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor, author of The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss. Dr O'Connor is also an Associate Professor of Clinical Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Arizona, and the Director of the grief loss and social stress (GLASS) Lab, where she investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Her research focuses on the physiological correlates of emotion, in particular the wide range of physical and emotional responses during bereavement, including yearning and isolation.  Click HERE for show notes.

The Learner's Corner with Caleb Mason
Episode 286: Mary-Frances O'Connor on the Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss

The Learner's Corner with Caleb Mason

Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2022 59:22


On this episode, Caleb talks with Mary-Frances O'Connor about her book, The Grieving Brain and more.Links MentionedMary-Frances O'ConnorThe Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss by Mary-Frances O'ConnorA Grief Observed by C.S. LewisOpen to HopeEpisode 279: Jessica Richie on Why Self-Help is a Lie, Seasons When You Don't Have Enough, and Learning to Borrow Language

MPR News with Kerri Miller
What science teaches us about being human

MPR News with Kerri Miller

Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2022 52:44


How to use science to help us manage life's toughest moments is the theme of this week's Big Books and Bold Ideas. Here, we revisit three discussions MPR News host Kerri Miller had with authors this past year and learn what they've discovered about grief, heartbreak and talking with people with whom we fundamentally disagree. Climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe kicks us off with a conversation about how we can find common ground when talking about climate change. Then we turn to Florence Williams, and her personal and clinical look at what science now knows happens in our bodies when we are dealing with heartbreak. Last, we hear from grief researcher Mary-Frances O'Connor about what loss looks like in the human brain. Guests: Katharine Hayhoe is a climate scientist, the chief scientist for The Nature Conservancy and the author of “Saving Us: A Climate Scientist's Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World.” Florence Williams is a journalist, author and podcaster. Her new book is “Heartbreak: A Personal and Scientific Journey.” Mary-Frances O'Connor is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona and director of the Grief, Loss and Social Stress Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Her new book is "The Grieving Brain." To listen to the full conversation you can use the audio player above.  Subscribe to the MPR News with Kerri Miller podcast on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts or RSS. Subscribe to the Thread newsletter for the latest book and author news and must-read recommendations. 

MPR News with Kerri Miller
Mary-Frances O'Connor on 'The Grieving Brain'

MPR News with Kerri Miller

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2022 56:46


When someone we deeply love dies, the grief can be overwhelming. But it also reveals a dichotomy in our brains. Neuroscience has learned that we are wired to keep two streams of information running simultaneously about those we love. One stream deals with the day-to-day reality, the memories. The other stream encodes the relationship into the brain with an abiding belief that our loved one will always be there for us. Until they are not. Then our brain struggles to reconcile the two conflicting maps. It's why someone walking through grief might say, “Technically, I know they died last year. But part of me keeps waiting for them to walk in the door.” Mary-Frances O'Connor studies what happens in the brain while we are grieving, as she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress Lab at the University of Arizona. Her new book, “The Grieving Brain,” details what brain imaging tells us about the process of saying a forever goodbye to those we love. This week, she joined MPR News host Kerri Miller to talk about her book and the lessons she's learned about the grieving brain. Guest: Mary-Frances O'Connor is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona and director of the Grief, Loss and Social Stress Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Her new book is "The Grieving Brain." To listen to the full conversation you can use the audio player above.  Subscribe to the MPR News with Kerri Miller podcast on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts or RSS. Subscribe to the Thread newsletter for the latest book and author news and must-read recommendations. 

MPR News with Kerri Miller
Mary-Frances O'Connor on 'The Grieving Brain'

MPR News with Kerri Miller

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2022 56:46


When someone we deeply love dies, the grief can be overwhelming. But it also reveals a dichotomy in our brains. Neuroscience has learned that we are wired to keep two streams of information running simultaneously about those we love. One stream deals with the day-to-day reality, the memories. The other stream encodes the relationship into the brain with an abiding belief that our loved one will always be there for us. Until they are not. Then our brain struggles to reconcile the two conflicting maps. It's why someone walking through grief might say, “Technically, I know they died last year. But part of me keeps waiting for them to walk in the door.” Mary-Frances O'Connor studies what happens in the brain while we are grieving, as she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress Lab at the University of Arizona. Her new book, “The Grieving Brain,” details what brain imaging tells us about the process of saying a forever goodbye to those we love. This week, she joined MPR News host Kerri Miller to talk about her book and the lessons she's learned about the grieving brain. Guest: Mary-Frances O'Connor is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona and director of the Grief, Loss and Social Stress Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Her new book is "The Grieving Brain." To listen to the full conversation you can use the audio player above.  Subscribe to the MPR News with Kerri Miller podcast on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts or RSS. Subscribe to the Thread newsletter for the latest book and author news and must-read recommendations. 

Searching for Medicine‘s Soul
The Grieving Brain with Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor

Searching for Medicine‘s Soul

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2022 44:51


Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor joins Aaron to discuss her book, The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss. Mary-Frances O'Connor is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss, and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab in investigating the effects of grief on the brain and the body. O'Connor earned a doctorate from the University of Arizona in 2004 and completed a fellowship at UCLA. Following a faculty appointment at UCLA Cousins Center for Psychoneuroimmunology, she returned to the University of Arizona in 2012. Her work has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Biological Psychiatry, and Psychological Science, and featured in Newsweek, The New York Times, and The Washington Post. Learn more about her book, A Grieving Brain. Please visit the Ethics and Public Policy's Bioethics and American Democracy program page for more information.

MPR News with Kerri Miller
From the archives: Writer Max Porter on 'Grief is the Thing with Feathers'

MPR News with Kerri Miller

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2022 33:46


Max Porter's debut novel, "Grief is the Thing with Feathers," packs an emotional landslide into its slim 100 pages. The book features a grief-stricken father and his two young sons, unmoored by a great loss. Then Crow comes to the door. Not just a crow, but Crow. Sarcastic, wise and ripped from the pages of folklore, Crow tells the father that he will be there as long as he is needed. The imaginary bird watches over the ravaged family, negotiating a path through their trauma. Grief, Porter said, "is completely unique, and it's as unique as the human brain. There is not a template for thinking about it or dealing with it." His observation echoes the scientific discoveries detailed in Mary Frances O'Connor's new book, “The Grieving Brain.” This Friday at 11 a.m., MPR News host Kerri Miller will talk with her about what grief does to the human brain. As a preview, enjoy Miller's 2016 conversation with Porter, as they discuss his novel, the ubiquitous of grief and the origins of Crow. Guest: Max Porter is an author who is best known for his debut novel, “Grief is the Thing with Feathers.” He's also the novelist behind “Lanny” and “The Death of Frances Bacon.” To listen to the full conversation you can use the audio player above.  Subscribe to the MPR News with Kerri Miller podcast on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts or RSS. Subscribe to the Thread newsletter for the latest book and author news and must-read recommendations.

Brain Science with Ginger Campbell, MD: Neuroscience for Everyone
BS 194 Mary-Frances O'Connor, author of "The Grieving Brain"

Brain Science with Ginger Campbell, MD: Neuroscience for Everyone

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2022 56:29


The neuroscience of grief and grieving is a relatively new field, but one that offers practical discoveries for people of all backgrounds. This month we talk with Mary-Frances O'Connor, author of The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How we Learn from Love and Loss. We talk about what has been learned from a variety of approaches, including both brain imaging and, surprisingly even from animal studies. We learn why it is so hard for our brains to accept the loss of a loved one and this work offers hope for helping those who struggle with prolonged or complicated grief. The incredible loss of life cause by the COVID pandemic makes this work especially timely. Links and References: The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss by Mary-Frances O'Connor Author website Please visit http://brainsciencepodcast.com for additional references and episode transcripts.   Please Visit Our Sponsors: TextExpander at textexpander.com/podcast The Minor Podcast Announcements: Please visit brainsciencepodcast.com and let me know what you think of the updated website. Get free gift "5 Things You Need to Know about YOUR Brain when you sign up for the free Brain Science Newsletter to get show notes automatically every month. You can also text brainscience to 55444 to sign up. Check out the Brain Science podcast channel on YouTube for episode excerpts and summaries. Support Brain Science by buying Are You Sure? The Unconscious Origins of Certainty by Virginia "Ginger" Campbell, MD. (Autographed copies are available) Check out the free Brain Science Mobile app for iOS, Android, and Windows. (It's a great way to get both new episodes and premium content.) Learn more ways to support Brain Science at http://brainsciencepodcast.com/donations Connect on Social Media: Twitter: @docartemis Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/brainsciencepodcast Contact Dr. Campbell: Email: brainsciencepodcast@gmail.com

Obsessed With Death
The Grieving Brain

Obsessed With Death

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2022 43:14


Mary-Frances O'Connor is a renowned grief expert and neuroscientist who shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss, and learning. Make sure you check out her new book, The Grieving Brain.

End-of-Life University
Ep. 342 The Grieving Brain: The Science of Love and Loss with Mary-Frances O’Connor PhD

End-of-Life University

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2022 66:03


Learn how the brain changes and learns in response to loss and grief. My guest Dr. Mary-Frances O’Connor is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. She discusses her… Continue reading Ep. 342 The Grieving Brain: The Science of Love and Loss with Mary-Frances O’Connor PhD

Introduction to Recovery From Fragmented Families
Episode #31 - The Grieving Brain - With a Neuroscientist and Clinical Psychologist Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor

Introduction to Recovery From Fragmented Families

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2022 58:25


If you have been impacted by grief whether it is due to the death of a loved one or ambiguous loss of family members, then, this episode is for you! Welcome to today's episode featuring my amazing guest Dr Mary Frances O'Connor. Dr Mary-Frances O'Connor is a renowned grief expert, neuroscientist, Psychologist and an PhD associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab where she investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Mary Frances's work has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Biological Psychiatry, and Psychological Science. Mary has also been featured in the Newsweek, the New York Times, and, The UK Guardian and The Washington Post. The Grieving Brain addresses; - Why it's so hard to understand that loved one has died and is gone forever - Why grief causes so many emotions - sadness, anger, blame, guilt and yearning - Why grieving takes so long - What happens in the brain during grief - The distinction between grief and complicated grief - Why we ruminate so much after we lose a loved one - How we ago about restoring a meaningful life while grieving. Grief is something that we're all going to experience at some point in our lives and sadly it is unavoidable. By becoming familiar of what we will actually go through, we can somehow have some mental preparation and also realise that we're not alone in how we feel. Family estrangement is categorised as an ambiguous loss which also involves the processes of grieving. Family estrangement is complicated and I believe the book discussed in this episode and the episode itself will shed some lights as why you're struggling family estrangement. To purchase - The Grieving Brain - Click on this link - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grieving-Brain-Surprising-Science-Learn/dp/0062946234 Connect with Mary-Frances O'Connor Website: https://www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryfrancesoconnor/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/doctormfo Connect with Mariam https://www.instagram.com/recoveryfromfragmentedfamilies/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/587817455514932/ Book a one to one coaching; https://calendly.com/recoveryfromfragmentedfamilies/60min?month=2022-03 or book a free 15 minutes discovery call: https://calendly.com/recoveryfromfragmentedfamilies/15min?month=2022-03 Join the family estrangement support group: https://recoveryfromfragmentedfamilies.vipmembervault.com/products/courses/view/1121

Grief Is My Side Hustle
Ep. 50. The Grieving Brain: Mary-Frances O'Connor PhD

Grief Is My Side Hustle

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2022 54:58


ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. O'Connor earned a doctorate from the University of Arizona in 2004 and completed a fellowship at UCLA. Following a faculty appointment at UCLA Cousins Center for Psychoneuroimmunology, she returned to the University of Arizona in 2012. Her work has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Biological Psychiatry, and Psychological Science, and featured in Newsweek, the New York Times, and The Washington Post. Having grown up in Montana, she now lives in Tucson, Arizona. For more information go to https://www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/     Loss of a loved one is something everyone experiences, and for as long as humans have existed, we have struggled when a loved one dies. Poets and playwrights have written about the dark cloak of grief, the deep yearning, and devastating heartache of loss. But until now, we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience.  In THE GRIEVING BRAIN: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss (HarperOne; February 1, 2022; Hardcover) renowned grief expert, neuroscientist, and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor, Ph.D., shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss, and learning.   In The Grieving Brain, O'Connor, who has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, reveals a fascinating new window into one of the hallmark experiences of being human. She makes cutting-edge neuroscience accessible and guides us through how we encode love and grief. With love, our neurons help us form attachments to others; but, with loss, our brain must come to terms with where our loved ones went, and how to imagine a future that encompasses their absence. Significantly, O'Connor debunks Kubler-Ross' enduring idea of the “Five Stages of Grief” and sets a new paradigm for understanding grief on a neurological level.  

As I Live and Grieve
Your Brain on Grief, with Dr. Mary Frances O'Connor

As I Live and Grieve

Play Episode Play 60 sec Highlight Listen Later Feb 22, 2022 29:08


Summary:Have you wondered why death of someone we love is so hard to believe, and then to accept? Listen in - listen for the analogy of the dining room table. (Despite saying near the beginning of the podcast that we won't reveal it, we do eventually talk about it.) With this seemingly simple explanation, it all made sense. Dr. O'Connor chats with us today about her findings related to what happens in our brain when we grieve, outlined in her recently published book, The Grieving Brain.Episode Notes:Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. O'Connor earned a doctorate from the University of Arizona in 2004 and completed a fellowship at UCLA. Following a faculty appointment at UCLA Cousins Center for Psychoneuroimmunology, she returned to the University of Arizona in 2012. Her work has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Biological Psychiatry, and Psychological Science, and featured in Newsweek, the New York Times, and The Washington Post. Having grown up in Montana, she now lives in Tucson, Arizona. Contact: www.asiliveandgrieve.cominfo@asiliveandgrieve.com Facebook:  As I Live and Grieve Instagram:  @asiliveandgrieve To Reach Dr. O'Connor: Website:   https://www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/ Credits: Music by Kevin MacLeod 

Harvesting Happiness Podcasts
The Grieving Brain: Love, Loss, and Healing with Mary-Frances O'Connor Ph.D. & Daniel Shapiro JD

Harvesting Happiness Podcasts

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2022


Losing people we love is a universal human experience. Yet, how we deal with the loss, and grieving comes in different forms for each individual and often it is an extension of the love we felt for the departed. Some may take solace in the company of others to help them cope while others grieve for years in solitude. There is no right or wrong way to grieve and there is no specific length of time it takes for grief to wane. Neuroscience shows that our brains change during grief and after certain treatments for complicated grief, post-traumatic growth can be achieved. To discover ways to restore a meaningful life after a loss, Positive Psychology Podcast Host Lisa Cypers Kamen speaks with two authors who have books that focus on loss and grief. Mary-Frances O'Connor explains the findings from her book, The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss and Daniel Shapiro recounts his experience with loss and the lessons he extracted from his grief.

The Roundtable
Grief expert and neuroscientist Mary-Frances O'Connor on the science of how we learn from love and loss

The Roundtable

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2022 14:06


Renowned grief expert and neuroscientist Mary-Frances O'Connor shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss, and learning. Her new book is "The Grieving Brain."

Harvesting Happiness
The Grieving Brain: Love, Loss, and Healing with Mary-Frances O'Connor Ph.D. & Daniel Shapiro JD

Harvesting Happiness

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2022 59:59


60 Mindful Minutes
EP168: The Neuroscience of Grief with Mary-Frances O'Connor

60 Mindful Minutes

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2022 49:46


For episode homepage, resources and links, visit: https://kristenmanieri.com/episode168/   Description Beyond the emotional experience of loss, researchers are now discovering what happens in our brain when we grieve. In her new book, The Grieving Brain, neuroscientist and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD, shares a fascinating scientific perspective on the universal experience of grief, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss, and learning. O'Connor has devoted decades to researching the effects of grief on the brain, and makes the cutting-edge neuroscience accessible so that we can better understand what happens when we grieve and how to navigate loss with more ease and grace.   Guest Bio Mary-Frances O'Connor is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss, and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab in investigating the effects of grief on the brain and the body. O'Connor earned a doctorate from the University of Arizona in 2004 and completed a fellowship at UCLA. Following a faculty appointment at UCLA Cousins Center for Psychoneuroimmunology, she returned to the University of Arizona in 2012. Her work has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Biological Psychiatry, and Psychological Science, and featured in Newsweek, New York Times, and Washington Post.   Host Bio Kristen Manieri is the author of Better Daily Mindfulness Habits: Simples Changes with Lifelong Impact (July 2021: Rockridge Press). She's certified both as a habits coach and mindfulness teacher. She specializes in: stress reduction, energy management, mindset, resilience, focus, habit formation, rest rituals, and prioritizing personal well-being. As the host of the weekly 60 Mindful Minutes podcast, an Apple top 100 social science podcast, Kristen has interviewed over 140 authors and thought-leaders about what it means to live a more conscious, connected, intentional AND joyful life. Learn more at https://kristenmanieri.com/work-with-me/.   Mentioned in this Episode   Guest's book: The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss: https://www.amazon.com/Grieving-Brain-Surprising-Science-Learn/dp/0062946234   Guest's website: https://www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/   Connect with the 60 Mindful Minutes podcast   Web: https://kristenmanieri.com Email: Kristen@kristenmanieri.com   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/60MindfulMinutes Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kristenmanieri_/ Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/kristenmanieri/    

Under the Cortex
The Grieving Brain

Under the Cortex

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2022 20:31


Loss of a loved one is something everyone experiences, but we have had little scientific perspective on this universal experience. Renowned grief expert, neuroscientist, and psychologist Mary-Frances O'Connor shares groundbreaking discoveries about what happens in our brain when we grieve, providing a new paradigm for understanding love, loss, and learning. In this interview she also discusses her upcoming book,  "The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss."

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Mary-Frances O'Connor, PhD is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss and Social Stress (GLASS) Lab, which investigates the effects of grief on the brain and the body. O'Connor earned a doctorate from the University of Arizona in 2004 and completed a fellowship at UCLA. Following a faculty appointment at UCLA Cousins Center for Psychoneuroimmunology, she returned to the University of Arizona in 2012. Her work has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Biological Psychiatry, and Psychological Science, and featured in Newsweek, the New York Times, and The Washington Post. Having grown up in Montana, she now lives in Tucson, Arizona. For more information go to https://www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/ Sign up for 10% off of Shrink Rap Radio CE credits at the Zur Institute

Your Brain in the Time of COVID-19
Ep 3. The Grieving Brain

Your Brain in the Time of COVID-19

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2020 35:06


It's been a time of loss. During the pandemic, many have lost their lives, some have lost jobs, most have lost normalcy in their day-to-day living. But when we try to reflect on what we are feeling, how many of us think grief? In this episode Emily and Gaya discuss why we grieve and what it might look like during this pandemic. They also explore how the power of grief, amplified by social media, might be changing the world. We now have a Facebook page! Stay in touch by following us @NeuroJunkies.

The Filter
The Filter | A Lesson on Grief and Resilience

The Filter

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 1970


The Filter's season finale is about grief. We grapple with the vague feelings created when the pandemic continually upended life, and our daily rituals stopped or had to change. We lean into what grief is, what it feels like and how to come out on the other side. Oscar Orozco, a grief counselor at Kansas City Hospice, explains how to navigate those feelings of loss, whether it has to do with losing a person or a routine. Trauma recovery coach Grace Yasmine shares her story of losing her dad, grandmother, brother, mother and son in a short period of time. Coming to grips with grief showed her how to embrace the good and the sad. What we read and listened to: Here are a few fascinating reads and listens we found during our research for this episode. Dig in and let us know what you think! Tweet us at @vickyd_c and @fentywise. Vicky interviewed Oscar Orozco last May as studies showed that communities everywhere were experiencing compounded grief and communal trauma. This report partly inspired this episode. Read it here. This blog entry by psychological experts helped us get our heads around much of what you hear. In the American Psychological Association April 2020 post entitled “Grief and COVID-19: Mourning our bygone lives,” psychologists explain the mental processes and how our bodies try to cope with profound senses of loss. It even offers ideas on activities that help our brains process changes the pandemic imposed on us. We featured clips of this TED Talk by neuroscientist Zoe Donaldson. Her talk “Lost in Loss: A Window into the Grieving Brain” explains “the neurobiology underlying these bonds and what happens when they are lost.” How do we talk to kids about this sometimes-uncomfortable subject? NPR's Life Kit gives us a 24-minute explainer with six succinct tips, plus some resources if you want to learn more. Check it out here. Get to know the hosts: Co-host Ieshia Downton | Illustration by Yup Yup Design Ieshia Downton (she/her/hers) is the co-host and creator of The Filter podcast and social media coordinator at Kansas City PBS. She is a Kansas City native with Caribbean roots and an interest in cultural storytelling and reporting. Before joining Kansas City PBS, Ieshia contributed to KC Studio magazine and un'ruly magazine as a feature writer. She is a graduate of the University of Missouri's School of Journalism, with an emphasis in magazine writing. Co-host Vicky Diaz-Camacho | Illustration by Yup Yup Design Vicky Diaz-Camacho (she/her/hers) is the co-host, producer and creator of The Filter podcast and the community reporter for Flatland at Kansas City PBS. Raised in El Paso, Texas, a border city in the Southwest, Vicky's roots as half-Mexican and Puerto Rican inform much of her reporting, which tends to focus on culture, race and health. Before joining Kansas City PBS, she interned at NPR and worked as a Kansas City Business Journal data journalist. She graduated from the University of Kansas School of Journalism focused on news and editing and is a University Daily Kansan alumna. Production team credits: Ieshia Downton, Vicky Diaz-Camacho, Naina Rao, Felicia Diaz, PJ Kelly and Ana Parra. Theme song credit: Aysia Berlynn and Primary Color Music.