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This week and next, we're bringing you recordings from our second-ever live taping in San Francisco. First, we sit down with Microsoft's chief executive, Satya Nadella, to hear what he's maxing out his A.I. tokens on, why he's skeptical that software developers will ever be fully replaced, and how he's hoping to create a new business model for Xbox. Then, Phil Mohun tells us what it has been like to watch people in the Bay Area interact with two robot dogs that wear the faces of Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. And finally, we talk with the longtime privacy defender Cindy Cohn about where things stand in the fight to protect internet users from digital surveillance by Big Tech and the government. Guests: Satya Nadella, chairman and chief executive of Microsoft. Phil Mohun, executive director of Node. Cindy Cohn, former executive director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and author of “Privacy's Defender: My Thirty-Year Fight Against Digital Surveillance.” Additional Reading: Microsoft C.E.O. Satya Nadella Says, ‘Everyone Is a Stakeholder' in A.I. Node presents “Beeple: /Infinite_Loop” We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dot Social's Mike McCue talks to PJ Vogt, host of the Search Engine podcast. PJ is also a co-founder of the Forkiverse, a Mastodon instance launched with the Hard Fork team as an experiment in community and a concrete way to show how a decentralized social network can work.  The conversation is a timely reminder that the internet is still something we can — and should — build together.  Highlights include: 01:50 The Forkiverse origin story 06:37 “The best way to talk about this is to try it” 14:30 Reactions to The Forkiverse 19:52 Social media as IRL social gathering 22:13 RSS podcasting: strengths and how fediverse helps with hard parts 25:08 Thinking about further integrations 27:52 Great promises of the fediverse 30:04 Slowing down and trying new things 33:04 Next steps for The Forkiverse 36:20 PJ's answer to the “media apocalypse” 39:22 How PJ got discovered  42:10 Search Engine's amazing sound design 45:00 The quality of media now 46:46 Reasons for creators to join the fediverse Mentioned in this episode: The Forkiverse social network “How do we survive the media apocalypse” podcast episodes “The Chairs Are Where the People Go” book

In the special segment “Mom Confessions,” Laura and Shanna share the embarrassing or hilarious parenting experiences they have had recently, including an interaction with an unsuspecting stranger, an incident with a curious cat and more. Also, Laura celebrates her 10th wedding anniversary with an out-of-the-ordinary trip, and Shanna recaps a nail-biting end to her 7-year-old's softball season. Finally, the moms share their BFPs and BFNs for the week, including a piece of office equipment that had to be rationed like screen time. Shanna's kids are 7 and 10 years old, and Laura's kids are 7 years old and 5 years old.Topics discussed in this episode:• Taking your first overnight trip as a couple after having kids• Self-driving cars: would you try a Waymo?• When your child is facing a big moment and you're a nervous wreck• Kids with ADHD and visual tracking challenges in sports• Cats and kids: an unpredictable combination• Regulating your own emotions on a bad parenting day• Sleep disruption from enlarged adenoids in kids• Electric pencil sharpeners: a surprisingly divisive household item• Face painting at kids' sports eventsProducts, links, resources mentioned in this episode:• The Line LA - Hotel that Laura and Corey went to for their anniversary• Waymo - Self-driving cars• Hard Fork - podcast that radicalized Laura on self-driving cars• Gwen - Restaurant that Laura and Corey went to for anniversary dinner• Martin Riese - Water sommelier• "Mom" by Meghan Trainor - Cece's walkup song• Spotify Jam• "Mr. Sun" by Raffi• "Grumpy Monkey" - Kid's book Shanna mentions• Robot Electric Pencil Sharpener• Face Paint Pens (Jim & Gloria)Past BFP episodes mentioned in this episode:• Ep. 407 - Where Shanna first talked about the Savannah Bananas San Diego trip• Ep. 410 - Where Laura first discussed Sebastian's ENT follow-up and upcoming ear tube surgeryConnect with Us:• Become a Patreon member to access ad-free episodes, bonus content, live hangouts and more! patreon.com/bfppodcast• Follow us on social: Instagram, TikTok or Facebook at @bfppodcast• Join our Facebook community group for support and camaraderie on your parenting journey.• Visit our website: bigfatpositivepodcast.com• Email us: contact@bigfatpositivepodcast.com• Send us a voice message: speakpipe.com/bfppodcastIf you enjoyed this episode, help spread the word by sharing the show or leaving a review. Thank you!Big Fat Positive: A Pregnancy and Parenting Journey is produced by Laura Birek, Shanna Micko and Steve Yager. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The “Hard Fork” team is taking a break this week as we prepare for our upcoming live show in San Francisco. While we're away, we're bringing you a recent episode of “Interesting Times” with Ross Douthat that we really enjoyed. In this episode, Ross talks with Andrew Miller, writer of the transportation policy newsletter “Changing Lanes” and co-author of the book “The End of Driving.” Together, they explore the potential benefits of driverless cars — from fewer car crashes to reclaimed time and attention — as well as what could be lost if we don't have to be in the driver's seat anymore. Guest: Andrew Miller,  writer of the newsletter “Changing Lanes.” Additional Reading: A full transcript and video of this episode can be found here.  We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of the Grow A Small Business Podcast, host Troy Trewin interviews Gulliver Moore shares how he scaled Sunday Treat alongside his co-founder Oliver Clubb from a freelance director/DP partnership into a £2M creative agency serving global brands like Google, Disney, and Revolut. In this episode, Gulliver reveals how consistent 20% year-over-year growth, smart hiring, strong company culture, and high-performing video marketing helped the agency expand to a 14-person team with clients across the US and Europe. He also explains how Sunday Treat is adapting to AI, building viral content strategies, and maintaining creativity while scaling fast. Gulliver shares honest lessons about leadership, delegation, difficult management decisions, and why founders should never delegate hiring. The conversation is packed with insights on business growth, branding, team building, and creating a sustainable agency in today's competitive digital landscape.  Why would you wait any longer to start living the lifestyle you signed up for? Balance your health, wealth, relationships and business growth. And focus your time and energy and make the most of this year. Let's get into it by clicking here. Troy delves into our guest's startup journey, their perception of success, industry reconsideration, and the pivotal stress point during business expansion. They discuss the joys of small business growth, vital entrepreneurial habits, and strategies for team building, encompassing wins, blunders, and invaluable advice. And a snapshot of the final five Grow A Small Business Questions:  What do you think is the hardest thing in growing a small business? Gulliver Moore shared that the hardest part of growing a business is consistently delivering on big promises while maintaining quality and trust with clients. What's your favorite business book that has helped you the most? Gulliver Moore said his favorite business book is Radical Candor because it deeply influenced how he manages people, gives feedback, and builds an honest company culture. He also highly recommended The Making of a Manager for its practical advice on leadership and team management. Are there any great podcasts or online learning resources you'd recommend to help grow a small business? Gulliver Moore recommended podcasts like Hard Fork, The Vergecast, and Today in Focus to stay updated on technology, AI, and current events. He also emphasized learning through experimentation, especially with AI tools, social media content creation, and hands-on business experience rather than relying heavily on formal coaching or consultants. During the conversation, host Troy Trewin additionally recommended Marketing School, Uncensored CMO, and Everyday AI for marketing and business growth insights. What tool or resource would you recommend to grow a small business? Gulliver Moore recommended using Claude AI for brainstorming, strategy, copywriting, and improving workflows with AI. He also highlighted Monday.com as a powerful CRM and project management system for organizing teams and client work, while Figma was his preferred platform for creating visually engaging presentations and creative assets. He emphasized that combining strong systems, consistency, and AI tools can significantly improve productivity and business growth. What advice would you give yourself on day one of starting out in business? Gulliver Moore said he would tell himself to trust the process, stay patient, and focus on consistently hiring great people. He emphasized that long-term success comes from building a strong team culture, trusting your instincts during hiring, and sticking with the journey even when growth feels slow or uncertain. Book a 20-minute Growth Chat with Troy Trewin to see if you qualify for our upcoming course. Don't miss out on this opportunity to take your small business to new heights! Enjoyed the podcast? Please leave a review on iTunes or your preferred platform. Your feedback helps more small business owners discover our podcast and embark on their business growth journey.     Quotable quotes from our special Grow A Small Business podcast guest: Hiring the right people is the most important investment you can make in your business — Gulliver Moore You don't need to control everything — great teams do amazing work when you trust them — Gulliver Moore Consistency in your process will eventually create the growth you're looking for — Gulliver Moore       

This week we're taking another look at prediction markets and a new series of scandals. Is Congress finally ready to rein them in? Then, the journalist Joanna Stern returns to the show to discuss her new book “I Am Not A Robot,” all about turning her life over to a chatbot for a year. And finally, Hard Fork's Rachel Cohn reports back on her month attending classes at the Strother School of Radical Attention, the center of a movement to resist the commodification of attention by technology companies.   Guests:  Joanna Stern, chief everything officer at New Things Rachel Cohn, producer of “Hard Fork”   Additional Reading: Soldier Used Classified Information to Bet on Maduro's Ouster, U.S. Says Soldier Pleads Not Guilty in $400,000 Betting Case Over Maduro's Ouster French weather service alerts police to tampering after suspicious Polymarket bets The Multi-Trillion-Dollar Battle for Your Attention Is Built on a Lie   We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What happens when a CEO fires 4,000 people to become "intelligence native" — and the stock jumps 17%? Peter Hinssen sits down with tech journalist Casey Newton — founder of Platformer, co-host of Hard Fork, and one of Silicon Valley's sharpest observers — for an unfiltered conversation about the AI revolution from the front row, and what it really means for boardrooms, jobs, and society as the safety guardrails come off. They cover:

A 2026 hard fork proposal wants to reassign Satoshi's Bitcoin. Bitcoin developer Paul Sztorc is planning a hard fork called eCash that would give BTC holders equivalent tokens, but the funding plan involves reassigning part of Satoshi Nakamoto's 1.1 million bitcoin to early investors. The community is calling it theft. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

A Google Research blog post warns that future Quantum Computers (CRQCs) could break Bitcoin's encryption, with updated estimates suggesting under 500,000 physical qubits could steal funds during transaction confirmations (roughly 9 minutes).Guest: Charles Hoskinson - CEO & Founder of Input OutputFollow Charles on X ➜ https://x.com/IOHK_Charles00:00 Intro00:10 Google scares everyone00:40 Justin Drake: 2032 roadmap needs to accelerate01:45 We took down Youtube video too02:00 How real is quantum threat?05:15 What blockchains are leading?07:00 Thoughts on eCash Hard Fork?09:40 Probability of Hard Fork?11:30 Midnight/Cardano saving Bitcoin?13:40 Enabling “Accredited Investor” rules?16:40 Canton vs Midnight19:40 Why not list Monument on RWA website?22:40 CLARITY Act odds: new red line?27:00 CLARITY Act endorse w/o reading it?30:00 Lazarus vs Quantum30:20 BTC Soft fork?30:45 Microstrategy Conspiracy31:00 KelpDAO vs Bridge sentiment31:40 Banks response to CLARITY32:15 XRP token utility22:45 Canton grift keeps giving?34:00 Proof-of-Stake vs Proof of Work35:00 Polymarket vs X35:30 USDCx Bridge Trustable?36:45 $SNEK on Solana & ETH?37:20 Tokenized stocks on cardano?38:00 Point-of-Sale failure?40:20 Canton Hack vs DeFi United?#Crypto #bitcoin #cardano~Bitcoin Quantum Threat Accelerates!

After 15 years of being a Bitcoin-only maximalist and about a decade of promoting BIP300 as a soft fork, LayerTwo Labs CEO Paul Sztorc decided to launch Ecash: a hard fork of Bitcoin in which every BTC holder gets free coins. There's a catch, though: while everyone can claim 1 ecash for every bitcoin that they own, Satoshi can only claim half. Meaning that a returning Satoshi will only be able to claim half his coins, while the other half (550k) is currently being sold to investors in order to fund the development and bootstrapping of Ecash. What's more controversial: the hard fork or the SHAD (Satoshi Half Air Drop)? Only time will tell. But the Ecash hard fork is scheduled to happen in August 2026... unless Bitcoin activates BIP300 in the meantime. Game theory at its finest! Time stamps: 00:00:58 – Paul Sztorc announces the new Bitcoin hard fork project, eCash, sharing his motivation for launching it and setting the stage for the discussion. 00:03:02 – eCash's technical details are explained, including its smaller 400kB block size and the integration of drivechains (BIP 300) to enhance scalability and flexibility. 00:04:55 – The initial drivechains launching with eCash are described, such as Thunder for scalability, ZSide for privacy, and additional chains like CoinShift, BitNames, and Photon. 00:09:28 – Security aspects of sidechains are discussed, covering the 256 sidechain limit, potential outcomes if sidechains fail, and the risks users face when moving coins. 00:14:26 – The project's name, Ecash, is revealed, with a comparison to Bitcoin Cash and an explanation of the naming decision. 00:15:40 – Paul delves into the philosophy behind the hard fork, his views on Bitcoin maximalism, and his intention to remain committed to both Bitcoin and eCash. 00:20:35 – Mining dynamics are explored, including SHA256 mining competition, miner incentives, and the potential for MEV (miner extractable value) issues. 00:22:36 – Paul critiques the current state of Bitcoin, highlighting user and developer frustration, stagnation, low transaction fees, and gridlock in development. 00:29:40 – The potential for eCash to attract frustrated Bitcoin builders is considered, with references to similar migrations in crypto history. 00:31:38 – Ethereum's rise is analyzed as a consequence of Bitcoin's block size wars, with discussion on missed opportunities and lessons learned. 00:41:06 – The likelihood and impact of further Bitcoin hard forks are speculated upon, focusing on community fragmentation and effects on value. 00:41:49 – Hard forks are framed as healthy competition that benefits investors by providing free coins and stimulating innovation. 00:48:20 – The decision to reassign half of Satoshi's coins for development and community incentives is explained, addressing concerns about distribution. 00:54:07 – Quantum computing threats, Satoshi's mining behavior, and the rationale for the coin distribution are discussed in the context of long-term security. 01:36:00 – Users are advised to self-custody their Bitcoin to claim eCash, with an outline of the claiming process and best practices. 01:39:01 – Technical steps for claiming eCash using private keys are detailed, including wallet compatibility and the process for users. 01:43:26 – The potential for NFT and ordinal activity on eCash is addressed, along with how LayerTwo Labs will manage onboarding and network congestion. 01:45:35 – Drivechain security parameters are confirmed, with eCash using a 13,000-block security window in line with BIP 300's Bitcoin implementation. 01:52:06 – The transition from a centralized project launch to decentralized development and governance. 01:54:36 – The current developer team size (about nine members) is shared, along with incentives for external developers to contribute to eCash. 01:58:26 – eCash is compared to Bitcoin Cash, with discussion on network effects, competition, and the potential for eCash to drive improvements in Bitcoin. 02:07:22 – The session concludes with future plans, a call for community engagement, and the possibility of follow-up discussions as the project evolves.

Two weeks ago, Anthropic announced an AI model so capable and so dangerous that it decided not to release it to the public. The model, codenamed Mythos, could autonomously infiltrate computer systems around the world, exploit security vulnerabilities, conceal its own reasoning, and fabricate false explanations for what it was doing. Anthropic instead shared it with a small consortium of companies to help them find their own cybersecurity flaws. You could be forgiven for some skepticism. Is this a genuine safety call, or Anthropic's way of marketing its own power? But independent benchmarks suggest Mythos is real: On the Epoch Capabilities Index, which aggregates 40 separate AI evaluations, it represents the biggest single leap in model performance in three years. That story is one of two major phase shifts happening simultaneously in AI right now. The first: from racing to release, to treating your own product as too dangerous to publish. The second: from a story about demand scarcity—is anyone actually paying for this stuff?—to supply scarcity, where companies are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a month on AI agents and the hyperscalers still can't keep up. Today's guest is New York Times columnist and Hard Fork co-host Kevin Roose. We talk about Mythos, China, the road to AGI, and why the last few weeks might be the most consequential month in AI since the release of ChatGPT. Subscribe to our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@PlainEnglishwithDerekThompson If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com. Host: Derek Thompson Guest: Kevin Roose Producer: Devon Baroldi Additional Production Support: Ben Glicksman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On April 7, artificial intelligence (AI) company Anthropic announced that it would not release its newest AI model, called Claude Mythos Preview, to the general public, citing potential security risks. Instead, Anthropic released the model to a select group of about 50 companies that will test its capabilities in a defensive security initiative known as Project Glasswing.Ad-free podcasts are here!To listen to this podcast ad-free, and to enjoy our subscriber only premium content, go to ReadTangle.com to sign up!Isaac interviews Casey Newton.Recently, Isaac Saul sat down with journalist and Hard Fork cohost Casey Newton to unpack a major shift happening in tech: the growing legal and political push to hold social media companies accountable for how their platforms are designed. You can check it out here!You can read today's podcast⁠ ⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠, and today's “Have a nice day” story ⁠here⁠.You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Take the survey: How impactful do you think Anthropic's Mythos will be? Let us know.Our Executive Editor and Founder is Isaac Saul. Our Executive Producer is Jon Lall.This podcast was written by: Isaac Saul and audio edited and mixed by Dewey Thomas. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75.Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Senior Editor Will Kaback, Lindsey Knuth, Bailey Saul, and Audrey Moorehead. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Last Friday, a former staffer for California gubernatorial candidate Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) accused the Congressman of making unwanted advances, sexual assault, and rape. Three other women also came forward to accuse Swalwell of sexual misconduct, describing a pattern of sending explicit messages through Snapchat. Swalwell denies the allegations, but apologized for “mistakes in judgment” and dropped out of the gubernatorial race after losing prominent endorsements. The Los Angeles and Manhattan District Attorneys are investigating Swalwell over the alleged misconduct.Ad-free podcasts are here!To listen to this podcast ad-free, and to enjoy our subscriber only premium content, go to ReadTangle.com to sign up!Isaac interviews Casey Newton.Recently, Isaac Saul sat down with journalist and Hard Fork cohost Casey Newton to unpack a major shift happening in tech: the growing legal and political push to hold social media companies accountable for how their platforms are designed. You can check it out here!You can read today's podcast⁠ ⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠, and today's “Under the radar.” story ⁠here⁠ and the “Have a nice day” story ⁠here⁠.You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Take the survey: What do you think are the implications of Hungary's election? Let us know.Our Executive Editor and Founder is Isaac Saul. Our Executive Producer is Jon Lall.This podcast was Written by: Will Kaback and audio edited and mixed by Dewey Thomas. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75.Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Senior Editor Will Kaback, Lindsey Knuth, Bailey Saul, and Audrey Moorehead. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On todays Special Edition, Isaac Saul interviews tech journalist and author of the newsletter Platformer and co-host of the podcast Hard Fork about all the ways the ground is shifting under our feet right now with the constantly developing world of artificial intelligence. Its a good one! Ad-free podcasts are here!To listen to this podcast ad-free, and to enjoy our subscriber only premium content, go to ReadTangle.com to sign up!You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Our Executive Editor and Founder is Isaac Saul. Our Executive Producer is Jon Lall.This podcast was hosted by Isaac Saul and audio edited and mixed by Dewey Thomas. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75.Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Senior Editor Will Kaback, Lindsey Knuth, Bailey Saul, and Audrey Moorehead. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Howie and Harlan are joined by Yale School of Medicine gastroenterologist Deborah Proctor, who reflects on her decades of work in Honduras and how her approach to service has shifted from short-term medical missions to sustained, community-driven partnership. Harlan reports on an AI breakthrough with implications for the security of healthcare systems; Howie marks National Public Health Week with a look at two centuries of major public health gains. Show notes: AI Breakthrough Anthropic: Project Glasswing "Anthropic Claims Its New A.I. Model, Mythos, Is a Cybersecurity 'Reckoning'" Glasswinged Butterfly "Cybersecurity incident forces Brockton Hospital to use paper records" Thomas Friedman: "Anthropic's Restraint Is a Terrifying Warning Sign"  Hard Fork podcast Deborah Proctor Gastroenterologist Honduras Children's Project Deborah Proctor: Every Child Counts: Breaking the Cycle of Poverty by Educating One Child at a Time Voluntourism Teletón Yale Inflammatory Bowel Disease Center Public Health Progress National Public Health Week World Health Day Life Expectancy History of smallpox vaccination Cholera in Victorian London "A History of the Surgeon General's Reports on Smoking and Health" "Australia's Social Media Ban for Children Takes Effect" In the Yale School of Management's MBA for Executives program, you'll get a full MBA education in 22 months while applying new skills to your organization in real time. Yale's Executive Master of Public Health offers a rigorous public health education for working professionals, with the flexibility of evening online classes alongside three on-campus trainings. Email Howie and Harlan comments or questions.

Today, we're talking about the landmark social media addiction trials that just resulted in two major verdicts against Big Tech — one in California against Meta and Google, and another in New Mexico against just Meta. These are complicated cases with some huge repercussions for both how these platforms work and the very nature of speech in America. So we've brought on two heavy hitters: my friend Casey Newton, founder and editor of Platformer and co-host of Hard Fork, as well as Verge senior policy reporter Lauren Feiner, who's been covering these trials since the beginning.  Links:  Meta & YouTube found negligent in social media addiction trial | The Verge Meta misled users about its products' safety, jury decides | The Verge Meta's legal defeat: a victory for kids, or a loss for everyone | The Verge Can you have child safety and Section 230, too? | Platformer The terrible cost of infinite scroll | The New York Times I watched grieving parents stare down Zuckerberg in court | The Verge Section 230 turns 30 as it faces its biggest tests yet | The Verge Congress considers blowing up internet law | The Verge Sen. Rob Wyden: “Why the internet still needs Section 230” | The Verge How America turned against the First Amendment | The Verge Subscribe to The Verge to access the ad-free version of Decoder! Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Decoder is produced by Kate Cox and Nick Statt and edited by Ursa Wright. Our editorial director is Kevin McShane.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The “Hard Fork” team is off this week, taking a much-needed break. While we're away, we wanted to draw your attention to a recent episode of “The Ezra Klein Show.” In this conversation, Ezra speaks with Jack Clark, a co-founder of Anthropic, about how he is using A.I. agents; how the technology is leading to meaningful changes in the ways we work and think; and how policy can or must change to anticipate potential job displacement on the horizon. We'll be back with a new episode next week. Guest: Jack Clark, a co-founder and the head of policy at Anthropic.  Additional Reading: A full transcript and video of this episode can be found here. We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this conversation, Peter discusses significant advancements in the Cardano ecosystem, focusing on the introduction of atomic swaps between Bitcoin and ADA through Fluid Tokens, and the upcoming Van Rossum hard fork. The atomic swaps eliminate the need for centralised exchanges and bridges, enhancing security and efficiency in cross-chain transactions. The Van Rossum hard fork introduces five key upgrades to the Plutus smart contract platform, improving performance, reducing costs, and preparing Cardano for future developments in zero-knowledge proofs. Overall, these innovations signify Cardano's maturation as a robust smart contract platform.TakeawaysYou can swap real BTC for real ADA directly.The Van Rossum hard fork introduces five key upgrades.Atomic swaps eliminate the need for centralised exchanges.The drop list upgrade makes DAP performance faster and cheaper.Arrays in Plutus will allow constant-time lookups.Zero-knowledge proofs are the future of blockchain.The upgrades are foundational for Cardano's smart contract capabilities.Multi-asset values will be handled more efficiently in Plutus.These changes are crucial for Cardano's long-term health.The ecosystem is building tools that matter for users.DISCLAIMER: This content is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, investment, or legal advice. I am not affiliated with, nor compensated by, the project discussed—no tokens, payments, or incentives received. I do not hold a stake in the project, including private or future allocations. All views are my own, based on public information. Always do your own research and consult a licensed advisor before investing. Crypto investments carry high risk, and past performance is no guarantee of future results. I am not responsible for any decisions you make based on this content.

This week, the fallout continues as OpenAI scrambles to rework its deal with the Pentagon, while government agencies adapt to life without Claude. Then we break down the grim new reality of prediction market bets on the U.S.-Israel led war with Iran. Finally, it's time for another edition of The Hard Fork Review of Slop. This time we're joined by Arijeta Lajka, a New York Times reporter, to discuss her recent article about the short form A.I.-generated slop YouTube is feeding to young children.Guest: Arijeta Lajka, New York Times video journalist Additional Reading: The Pentagon Officially Notifies Anthropic That It Is a ‘Supply Chain Risk' OpenAI Amends A.I. Deal With the Pentagon  How Talks Between Anthropic and the Defense Dept. Fell Apart  How Anonymous Bettors Cashed In on the Iran Strike, Just Hours Before It Happened Israeli Army Reservists Are Suspected of Using Inside Knowledge to Bet How A.I.-Generated Videos Are Distorting Your Child's YouTube Feed   We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Mark Karpelès is the former CEO of Mt. Gox, the defunct Bitcoin exchange. Recently, he requested the Bitcoin community to hard fork the chain in order to recover 79956 BTC that was stolen from his exchange. In this episode, he explains all about it. Time stamps: 00:01:19 Introducing Mark Karpelès & His Recent Activities 00:03:29 Mark's Entry into Bitcoin & Move to Japan 00:06:01 Acquiring Mt. Gox from Jed McCaleb in early 2011 00:08:00 Early Challenges & First Mt. Gox Hack 00:10:20 Handling the Loss & Transparency 00:13:16 Regrets & Lessons from Early Mt. Gox 00:15:09 Mt. Gox's Rapid Growth & Regulatory Pressure 00:17:15 Rumors: Satoshi & Silk Road Allegations 00:21:16 Security, Hacking Attempts, and Physical Breach 00:24:07 Mt. Gox Bankruptcy, Recovery, and Alexander Vinnik 00:27:00 Technical Details of the Mt. Gox Hack 00:29:05 Evolution of Bitcoin Security 00:35:14 Why Mt. Gox Dominated the Market 00:44:53 Legal Compliance in Japan vs. US 00:48:12 Mt. Gox, Talking to Satoshi, and Early Bitcoin Development 00:51:35 Speculation on Satoshi & Bitcoin's Future 00:55:30 Mark's Current Projects: Solana & Meme Coin (Chief Pussy) 00:59:03 Why Mark Isn't Focused on Bitcoin Anymore 01:00:28 Bitcoin Innovation, Scaling, and Forks 01:14:00 Sidechains and Drivechains Discussion 01:36:10 Mt. Gox as a Cautionary Tale & Exchange Security 01:42:14 Mark's Life After Mt. Gox & Prison 01:44:58 The 80,000 Bitcoin Hard Fork Proposal 01:51:11 Community Reaction To Hard Fork & Precedent Concerns 01:55:09 Bitcoin Forks & Legal Recovery 02:15:25 Bitcoin Foundation & Developer Funding 02:25:05 Mark's Current Ventures: VPN (vp.net) & Solana Tools 02:27:02 Bitcoin's Future in 15-17 Years & Final Thoughts

Cameron Robertson first discovered Bitcoin in 2009, after reading a post on hacker website Slashdot. About a year later, he started mining and mingling with other Bitcoin enthusiasts in the Silicon Valley area. More recently, he created a product named the Burner: an affordable, NFC-based card that enables anyone to gift, save, and spend their BTC within a simple browser-based and mobile-optimized interface. In this episode, we talk about the past, present and future of the Bitcoin project: including topics such as mining, open source development culture, and the quantum threat. Get 25% discount on your Burner card purchase with promo code ”BTCTKVR”: https://www.burner.pro/bitcoin Time stamps: 00:01:15 Introducing Cameron Robertson 00:02:45 Cameron's Bitcoin Origin Story 00:03:40 Early GPU Mining & Startup Life 00:04:46 Meeting with Brian Armstrong of Coinbase & Smart Locks 00:06:10 Evolution of the Crypto Ecosystem 00:07:20 Building Self-Custody Tools 00:08:30 Kong Cash: Physical Crypto Notes 00:10:25 Community Reactions to Physical Crypto 00:11:17 NFTs, Halos, and Physical Authentication 00:12:30 Offline Cash: Improved Bitcoin Notes 00:13:30 Denominations, Sats, and Psychological Value 00:15:30 Challenges of Issuing Physical Bitcoin 00:16:22 From Cash Notes to Burner Card 00:17:30 Web-Based Wallets & App Store Challenges 00:18:48 Bitcoin Banknotes & Physical Representations 00:21:01 Casascius, Legal Precedents & Coinage Laws 00:24:28 Mining, Spending, and Store of Value 00:28:22 Early Bitcoin Community & Mining Stories 00:30:02 Bitcoin as Money vs. Store of Value 00:32:07 Unit of Account Challenges 00:37:31 Development Culture: Then vs. Now 00:39:03 Silicon Valley, Meetups, and Early Builders 00:40:58 Money Changes Everything: 2013–2017 00:46:57 Bear Markets, Building, and Lightning 00:50:23 Future Risks: Mining, Quantum, and Hard Forks 00:54:44 Quantum Resistance: Migration and Hardware 00:56:52 Quantum Attacks: Practical Risks and Mitigations 01:03:20 Consensus, Upgrades, and Developer Culture 01:05:41 Ethereum vs. Bitcoin: Governance and Upgrades 01:14:57 Stablecoins, Sidechains, and Payments 01:18:03 Burner Card Demo & Security Model 01:22:36 Technical Details: Secure Element & Open APIs 01:25:49 Third-Party Wallets & Business Model 01:29:31 Supported Coins & Expansion Plans 01:32:44 Naming & Philosophy Behind Burner 01:34:38 Cameron's Non-Shitcoin Picks & Privacy Coins 01:40:08 Privacy vs. Scaling: ZK Tech & Future Hopes 01:44:31 ZK Apps & Privacy Onramps 01:47:24 16-Year Outlook: Bitcoin & Crypto's Future 01:53:29 No Price Predictions, Just Tech 01:53:37 Promo Code BTCTKVR & Closing Thoughts

In this week's roundup of the latest news in online speech, content moderation and internet regulation, Ben is joined by Casey Newton, founder and editor of Platformer and co-host of Hard Fork, a podcast that makes sense of the rapidly changing world of tech. Together, they discuss:After a deadly raid, an AI power struggle erupts at the Pentagon (Washington Post)Following: Anthropic vs. The Pentagon (Platformer)Anthropic Drops Flagship Safety Pledge (TIME)Hackers Expose Age-Verification Software Powering Surveillance Web (The Rage)Discord is delaying its global age verification rollout (The Verge)Reddit fined £14m by UK data watchdog over age verification checks (BBC News)How to evaluate Trust & Safety vendors (Everything in Moderation*)Regulate platforms, not children – Commissioner urges caution over social media bans (Commissioner for Human Rights)MPs reject total ban, want data housed locally (The Star)Exclusive: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere (Reuters)Play along with Ctrl-Alt-Speech's 2026 Bingo Card and get in touch if you win! Ctrl-Alt-Speech is a weekly podcast from Techdirt and Everything in Moderation. Send us your feedback at podcast@ctrlaltspeech.com and sponsorship enquiries to sponsorship@ctrlaltspeech.com. Thanks for listening.

Neste episódio falamos sobre os principais temas de segurança digital e privacidade das últimas semanas, abordando assuntos que você precisa conhecer para entender o cenário atual da proteção de dados, segurança infantil online e inteligência artificial. Você vai descobrir como o Roblox e o Discord lidam com a verificação de idade e proteção de crianças na internet, incluindo os riscos de predadores digitais, mecanismos psicológicos de retenção e a ausência de controles parentais eficazes. Também abordamos o polêmico caso do Grok no X (antigo Twitter) gerando imagens de nudez de mulheres e menores de idade sem guardrails, e as medidas tomadas pela ANPD, Ministério Público Federal e Senacon contra a plataforma. Discutimos o acordo de adequação mútua entre Brasil e União Europeia em proteção de dados pessoais e o que isso representa para transferências internacionais de dados e oportunidades comerciais. Ainda comentamos a solicitação do FBI à Microsoft pelas chaves de criptografia BitLocker, a ação judicial contra a Meta por suposto acesso às mensagens criptografadas do WhatsApp, o fenômeno das personas digitais criadas por IA, como a “Aboriginal Steve Irwin”, e os deepfakes com celebridades. Por fim, apresentamos a WhisperSafe, novo patrocinador do podcast, um software de transcrição local com privacidade em foco, usando modelos Whisper da OpenAI sem envio de dados para a nuvem. Assine o podcast para não perder nenhum episódio, deixe sua avaliação nas plataformas e siga o Segurança Legal no Instagram, Mastodon, Blue Sky, YouTube e TikTok. Apoie o projeto independente em apoia.se/segurancalegal. Esta descrição foi realizada a partir do áudio do podcast com o uso de IA, com revisão humana. Acesse WhisperSafe – Transcreva áudio e grave reuniões direto no seu computador, mesmo offline. Rápido, leve e pronto para usar com qualquer IA. Use o cupom SEGLEG50 para 50% de desconto na sua assinatura. ShowNotes Grupo 1 – Roblox, crianças e proteção digital em plataformas de jogos ‘Estou sendo atacado por crianças’, diz Felca após ser alvo de protesto no Roblox Opinião: feito para viciar, Roblox tem lógica de cassino e vira caça-níquel para crianças Palcos no Discord serão bloqueados para adolescentes e restritos para grupos da mesma idade Hackers expose age-verification software powering surveillance web ‘O que adolescentes fizeram com cão Orelha acontece todas as noites em muitas casas do Brasil, ao vivo no Discord’, alerta juíza Vanessa Cavalieri Internal chats show how social media companies discussed teen engagement Como vão funcionar as novas regras do Discord para verificar idade no app? Grupo 2 – Grok, conteúdo sexual gerado por IA e responsabilização do X/Musk ANPD, MPF e Senacon recomendam que X impeça geração e circulação de conteúdos sexualizados indevidos por meio do Grok ANPD, MPF e Senacon determinam que X implemente de forma imediata medidas para corrigir falhas no Grok Masterful gambit: Musk attempts to monetize Grok’s wave of sexual abuse imagery Joint statement on AI-generated imagery and the protection of privacy Grupo 3 – Adequação mútua Brasil-UE em proteção de dados e multas na UE Brasil e União Europeia reconhecem adequação mútua em matéria de proteção de dados pessoais Violation de données : sanction de 5 millions d'euros à l'encontre de FRANCE TRAVAIL Violation de données : sanction de 42 millions d'euros à l'encontre des sociétés FREE MOBILE et FREE Más sanciones y de mayor importe: La AEPD sube el nivel de multas en 2025 Grupo 4 – Vigilância, privacidade e Estado The Department of Homeland Security is demanding that Google turn over information about random critics Microsoft is giving the FBI BitLocker keys US authorities reportedly investigate claims that Meta can read encrypted WhatsApp messages Grupo 5 – IA generativa e identidade ‘It’s AI blackface’: social media account hailed as the Aboriginal Steve Irwin is an AI character created in New Zealan Imagem do Episódio – Children’s Games (Bruegel)  Transcrição do Episódio (00:00:08.000 –> 00:00:17.500) Bem-vindos e bem-vindas ao Café Segurança Legal, episódio 411, gravado em 24 de fevereiro de 2026. (00:00:17.500 –> 00:00:22.920) Eu sou Guilherme Goulart e junto com o Vinícius Serafim vamos trazer para vocês algumas notícias das últimas semanas. (00:00:22.920 –> 00:00:24.440) E aí, Vinícius, tudo bem? (00:00:24.440 –> 00:00:27.940) Olá, Guilherme, tudo bem? (00:00:24.440 –> 00:00:27.940) Olá aos nossos ouvintes. (00:00:28.180 –> 00:00:30.600) Você estava com saudade de gravar ou não? (00:00:30.600 –> 00:00:39.160) Cara, eu já estava até duvidando da minha capacidade de gravar de novo, porque a gente passou quase.. (00:00:30.600 –> 00:00:39.160) Vai fechar dois.. (00:00:39.160 –> 00:00:40.820) Um mês e pouco. (00:00:40.820 –> 00:00:45.280) O último foi ali em janeiro, não foi? (00:00:45.280 –> 00:00:46.720) Foi em janeiro que a gente gravou. (00:00:46.720 –> 00:00:51.000) Agora você me pegou, você me pegou no contrapé. (00:00:51.000 –> 00:00:57.820) Mas nós gravamos o episódio 410 da Retrospectiva, que se você não ouviu, está lá no dia 6 de janeiro. (00:00:58.180 –> 00:01:02.100) De 2026. (00:00:58.180 –> 00:01:02.100) Retrospectiva 2025. (00:01:03.780 –> 00:01:07.380) Bem, então, esse é o nosso momento de conversarmos sobre algumas notícias. (00:01:07.380 –> 00:01:10.240) Pegue o seu café e venha conosco para entrar em contato. (00:01:10.240 –> 00:01:18.760) Vocês já sabem, é lá no podcast.roba.segurançalegal.com, no Mastodon, no Instagram, no Blue Sky, no YouTube e no TikTok também. (00:01:18.760 –> 00:01:24.520) Você pode ver que tanto no TikTok quanto no YouTube você consegue ver também uns shorts lá que aparecem no Instagram também. (00:01:24.900 –> 00:01:30.420) A nossa campanha de financiamento coletivo, vocês já sabem, lá no apoia.se barra segurança legal. (00:01:30.420 –> 00:01:36.940) A gente sempre pede que você considere colaborar com esse projeto independente de proteção de conteúdo. (00:01:36.940 –> 00:01:41.960) E, Vinícius, temos uma novidade que é um novo patrocinador aqui no Segurança Legal. (00:01:42.500 –> 00:01:43.520) É isso aí, Guilherme. (00:01:43.520 –> 00:01:54.360) Tem a WhisperSafe, na verdade, o produto da WhisperSafe de uma startup que nós conhecemos, inclusive o dono da startup. (00:01:54.360 –> 00:02:04.360) É um software para transcrição de voz com um valor bastante acessível comparado com outros que tem no mercado. (00:02:05.420 –> 00:02:08.640) Ele faz transcrição tanto.. (00:02:08.640 –> 00:02:13.760) Eu tenho usado muito para fazer, para mandar comandos para IA. (00:02:13.760 –> 00:02:17.060) Eu fazia prompt tudo estruturadinho, digitando e tal. (00:02:17.060 –> 00:02:26.200) Agora, para programar, para criar scripts, criar alguns programas, para fazer alguns testes, eu tenho utilizado essencialmente ele para digitar. (00:02:26.200 –> 00:02:34.080) E tem uma funcionalidade muito interessante, que é a gravação e transcrição de reuniões, que eu também tenho utilizado. (00:02:35.220 –> 00:02:40.820) Independente do software que você utiliza, você abre ele, clica gravar a reunião, ele vai gravar todo o áudio da reunião. (00:02:40.820 –> 00:02:48.280) E depois que ele grava e você aperta lá o botãozinho para transcrever, ele te dá uma.. (00:02:48.280 –> 00:02:53.000) Ele tanto gera um arquivo com a transcrição bruta, se tu quiser usar com alguma IA, (00:02:53.000 –> 00:03:04.160) Como ele já deixa na área de transferência a tua transcrição com um prompt montado para te colar na IA que tu quer utilizar para fazer um resumo da tua reunião. (00:03:04.160 –> 00:03:07.500) Então, termina a reunião, cola na IA e pimba. (00:03:07.500 –> 00:03:16.880) O valor dele é um valor bastante acessível e, para os ouvintes do Segurança Legal, nós temos 20 cupons. (00:03:17.840 –> 00:03:28.700) O cupom é SEGLEG50, ele dá 50% de desconto vitalício, digamos assim. (00:03:28.700 –> 00:03:35.360) Você faz a assinatura, aplica o desconto, se fizer mensal ele vai aplicar a todos os pagamentos mensais (00:03:35.360 –> 00:03:40.080) E, se for anual, ele vai aplicar a todos os pagamentos anuais. (00:03:40.080 –> 00:03:44.540) Então, não é um desconto que vale só no primeiro ano ou só no primeiro pagamento. (00:03:44.540 –> 00:03:48.460) SEGLEG50 para os ouvintes do Segurança Legal. (00:03:49.080 –> 00:03:55.520) São 20 cupons, são 20 cupons que a gente tem aí, pelo menos para este episódio. (00:03:55.520 –> 00:04:01.320) E o mais importante, Vinícius, ele é um aplicativo que é construído com privacidade em foco. (00:04:01.320 –> 00:04:06.820) Ou seja, se você, os dados e toda a parte de transcrição, ela fica só na sua máquina, (00:04:06.820 –> 00:04:11.020) Não vai para a nuvem, a não ser que você queira depois usar isso no MyA e tal, (00:04:11.020 –> 00:04:14.580) Mas, assim, para assuntos mais críticos. (00:04:14.580 –> 00:04:18.560) Se você quiser ter lá para fazer uma ata depois, isso fica só na sua máquina. (00:04:18.560 –> 00:04:24.280) Ele faz, ele usa os modelos da Whisper, isso está lá na interface, está muito claro. (00:04:24.280 –> 00:04:31.040) Ele usa os modelos da, os modelos Whisper da OpenAI, que são modelos que rodam local na máquina. (00:04:31.040 –> 00:04:35.460) E o interessante é que tu não precisa nem ter uma placa de vídeo, não precisa ter GPU nem nada, (00:04:35.460 –> 00:04:39.280) Ele funciona muito bem, eu testei no meu notebook, não tem placa de vídeo dedicada. (00:04:40.700 –> 00:04:45.580) E funcionou muito bem, assim, ele é bastante rápido. (00:04:45.580 –> 00:04:52.320) E eu tenho feito os testes até para ver a questão de velocidade, já que tem os modelos disponíveis lá. (00:04:52.320 –> 00:04:55.000) Eu estava usando sempre o Turbo, assim, vou usar o melhor. (00:04:55.000 –> 00:05:00.500) Aí eu resolvi começar a usar o Medium e o Small lá dos modelos. (00:05:00.500 –> 00:05:04.580) E, cara, o Small, ele dá umas erradas, assim, sabe? (00:05:04.580 –> 00:05:06.260) Mas o Medium funciona muito bem. (00:05:06.260 –> 00:05:08.060) Tá bom. (00:05:08.840 –> 00:05:15.480) Então, basta você acessar o whispersafe.ai.ai, você vai ver lá todos os valores. (00:05:15.480 –> 00:05:19.920) Na hora do pagamento, pode usar o cupom SEGLEG50 e vamos lá. (00:05:19.920 –> 00:05:24.080) Bem-vindos, então, ao novo patrocinador do podcast Segurança Legal. (00:05:24.080 –> 00:05:30.480) Vamos para os temas, então, Vinícius, desses últimos dois meses, dá para se dizer aí. (00:05:30.480 –> 00:05:32.680) Hoje já estamos aí no dia 24 de fevereiro. (00:05:32.680 –> 00:05:44.260) Bastante coisa acontecendo, mas nós vamos, em vez de comentar propriamente as notícias, claro que nós vamos citá-las aqui, mas nós dividimos em alguns grupos. (00:05:44.340 –> 00:05:49.420) De temas que nos chamaram a atenção e que também foram temas importantes aí nas últimas semanas. (00:05:49.420 –> 00:05:53.860) O primeiro deles diz respeito à questão da proteção da criança na internet. (00:05:53.860 –> 00:05:56.400) Proteção digital, sobretudo em plataformas. (00:05:56.400 –> 00:06:00.200) Você que nos acompanha aqui sabe que a questão da proteção de criança é importante. (00:06:00.200 –> 00:06:04.860) A gente tem diversos, para esse podcast, a gente tem diversos episódios gravados sobre isso. (00:06:05.100 –> 00:06:11.420) Chegamos a comentar, inclusive, um episódio mais recente também sobre o ECA Digital, Vinícius, se você puder ver o número aí para nós. (00:06:11.420 –> 00:06:24.280) E, basicamente, o que nós estamos vendo mais recentemente é toda uma questão sobre como tornar essas plataformas, os problemas envolvendo plataformas utilizadas por crianças. (00:06:24.280 –> 00:06:33.320) E cada vez mais as crianças têm usado, seja o discórdio, mas aqui o foco dessas notícias é o Roblox. (00:06:33.320 –> 00:06:38.740) Então, se você tem filho, provavelmente já ouviu falar sobre Roblox, que é um jogo. (00:06:38.740 –> 00:06:44.020) Dá para dizer que é um jogo, mas que simula quase como um ambiente, assim. (00:06:38.740 –> 00:06:44.020) Virtual. (00:06:44.020 –> 00:06:47.600) Eu cheguei a jogar ele logo que ele apareceu. (00:06:47.600 –> 00:06:52.020) Assim, não tão logo, mas os colegas do meu filho começaram a jogar. (00:06:52.020 –> 00:06:54.900) Ai, meu filho veio com essa história do Roblox. (00:06:54.900 –> 00:06:57.140) E aí, disse, não, beleza, vamos ver. (00:06:57.140 –> 00:06:58.860) Aí eu entrei com ele. (00:06:59.320 –> 00:07:02.180) Cara, é um ambiente, é um ambiente virtual. (00:07:02.180 –> 00:07:08.400) Para mim, me lembrou muito aquele Second Life, tá ligado? (00:07:08.400 –> 00:07:09.320) Sim, Second Life. (00:07:09.320 –> 00:07:11.100) Me lembrou muito aquilo, então. (00:07:11.100 –> 00:07:15.880) E aí, dentro, tu tem espaços. (00:07:15.880 –> 00:07:19.980) Que tu acessa aplicações, jogos e tudo mais. (00:07:19.980 –> 00:07:22.560) Tu pode criar, inclusive, e tal. (00:07:22.700 –> 00:07:26.080) E aí, ele tem uma moeda interna no jogo, tá? (00:07:26.080 –> 00:07:28.080) Ele tem grana envolvida. (00:07:28.080 –> 00:07:36.080) E, cara, em cinco minutos de Fussaclo ali, eu larguei para o meu filho, ó, tem jogos melhores (00:07:36.080 –> 00:07:36.640) Para te jogar. (00:07:36.640 –> 00:07:39.060) Tu não vai jogar isso aqui. (00:07:39.060 –> 00:07:44.520) Justamente porque é um ambiente, eu percebi, o que eu percebi de cara, e se confirmou depois, (00:07:44.520 –> 00:07:47.180) Um ambiente muito descontrolado, entende? (00:07:47.680 –> 00:07:56.360) Um ambiente muito descontrolado, com muita, assim, nomes estranhos de personagens, todo (00:07:56.360 –> 00:08:03.060) Mundo pode se comunicar com todo mundo, então, é um negócio bem estranho. (00:08:03.060 –> 00:08:04.880) Pelo menos, era. (00:08:04.880 –> 00:08:06.060) A percepção. (00:08:06.060 –> 00:08:06.260) Não entrei mais para jogar. (00:08:06.260 –> 00:08:11.720) Mas aí, pelo que a gente vê agora nas reações e notícias e tudo mais, pelo visto, (00:08:11.720 –> 00:08:12.580) Continua estranho. (00:08:12.580 –> 00:08:13.620) Continua estranho. (00:08:13.620 –> 00:08:18.880) O, o, a grande questão aqui é que, por fora, e isso está acontecendo no mundo (00:08:18.880 –> 00:08:20.140) Inteiro, não é só no Brasil. (00:08:20.140 –> 00:08:23.820) No Brasil, por conta do ECA Digital, mas assim, começa.. (00:08:23.820 –> 00:08:24.660) Episódio 400, viu, Guilherme? (00:08:24.660 –> 00:08:25.940) Tá, legal. (00:08:25.940 –> 00:08:26.660) Episódio 400, isso é legal. (00:08:26.660 –> 00:08:32.380) É que começa a se ampliar toda a discussão de como você fazer a verificação de idade (00:08:32.380 –> 00:08:34.120) De pessoas nessas plataformas. (00:08:34.120 –> 00:08:41.000) Então, aqui a gente junta nesse mesmo pacote o Roblox e também o Discord. (00:08:41.360 –> 00:08:43.840) E aí, uma coisa muito interessante. (00:08:43.840 –> 00:08:48.460) Que gerou, assim, até um fenômeno social, me parece que relevante. (00:08:48.460 –> 00:08:52.160) Crianças começaram a protestar lá, porque as crianças seriam os beneficiários. (00:08:52.160 –> 00:08:56.820) Mas começaram a protestar por conta das novas medidas de verificação de idade. (00:08:56.820 –> 00:08:59.280) Aí, o Felca foi alvo de protesto e tal. (00:08:59.280 –> 00:09:05.920) E tem as crianças lá, simulando um protesto, segurando cartazes lá dentro do Roblox. (00:09:07.520 –> 00:09:11.380) Saíram também notícias dizendo, e aí, mais ou menos na tua percepção, Vinícius, (00:09:11.380 –> 00:09:16.720) De que o Roblox, como acontece com grandes plataformas, ele teria uma lógica de cassino, (00:09:16.720 –> 00:09:21.860) Ou seja, as crianças ficariam ali, utilizariam gatilhos psicológicos, (00:09:21.860 –> 00:09:26.860) Como já ocorre em redes sociais, para que as crianças ficassem mais tempo lá dentro. (00:09:26.860 –> 00:09:33.160) E aí, também começou a se ventilar de que predadores sexuais estariam dentro do Roblox, (00:09:33.160 –> 00:09:36.760) Se fazendo passar por crianças. (00:09:33.160 –> 00:09:36.760) Disfarçados aí. (00:09:36.760 –> 00:09:40.700) Nos Estados Unidos, isso é um problema bem sério lá, justamente com isso. (00:09:40.700 –> 00:09:52.020) E teve o CEO do Roblox, ele teve lá no episódio do The Hard Fork. (00:09:53.020 –> 00:09:59.060) Eu já vejo o número de episódios aqui, mas o nome do CEO é Dave Bazzucchi, tá? (00:09:59.060 –> 00:10:06.020) E, cara, o pessoal do The Hard Fork tentou, assim, impressionou, foi uma coisa que ficou até tenso, sabe? (00:10:06.020 –> 00:10:08.940) Não é normal, assim, tu ver esse episódio do The Hard Fork desse jeito. (00:10:08.940 –> 00:10:14.100) E o cara sempre saindo pela tangente, assim, e perguntas bem diretas. (00:10:14.460 –> 00:10:21.300) Em termos de controle de comunicação, a questão de deixar adultos falar com crianças, assim, várias coisas. (00:10:21.300 –> 00:10:23.420) E ele sempre dando evasiva. (00:10:23.420 –> 00:10:26.320) Ele não.. (00:10:23.420 –> 00:10:26.320) Assim, foi muito ruim, sabe? (00:10:26.320 –> 00:10:32.020) A impressão que tu tens é que o cara foi ali para tentar se justificar, (00:10:32.020 –> 00:10:35.280) Não aceitando os problemas que ele tem na plataforma. (00:10:35.280 –> 00:10:38.800) Isso o CEO da própria Roblox, sabe? (00:10:38.800 –> 00:10:40.320) Na própria empresa. (00:10:40.320 –> 00:10:50.300) Então, isso me deixou ainda mais convencido de que é uma empresa que não tem preocupação nenhuma (00:10:50.300 –> 00:10:54.240) Com essa questão de segurança de crianças e tudo mais, entende? (00:10:54.240 –> 00:10:55.540) É bem delicado. (00:10:55.540 –> 00:10:58.760) Se o pessoal já se preocupa com o Discord, o Roblox é muito pior. (00:10:58.760 –> 00:11:00.000) É muito pior. (00:11:00.000 –> 00:11:03.140) Em termos de possibilidades de comunicação. (00:11:03.140 –> 00:11:06.380) É uma reportagem aqui da Folha de São Paulo. (00:11:06.420 –> 00:11:10.920) Pelo Daniel Mariani, ele destaca justamente isso. (00:11:10.920 –> 00:11:13.660) Inclusive de monetização. (00:11:13.660 –> 00:11:18.120) Práticas predatórias em games e monetiza compulsão e frustrações. (00:11:18.120 –> 00:11:22.720) Explora mecanismos psicológicos como medo de ficar fora da plataforma. (00:11:22.720 –> 00:11:25.060) Ficar de fora e perda de noção de tempo. (00:11:25.060 –> 00:11:27.540) Então, ele conta uma historinha que ele sai com o filho e o filho diz (00:11:27.540 –> 00:11:31.600) Olha, nós temos que voltar até tal hora porque vai acontecer um evento lá no Roblox (00:11:31.600 –> 00:11:34.920) E eu preciso estar lá e enfim. (00:11:35.800 –> 00:11:42.840) E aí, a crítica toda é também de que haveria uma falta de vontade, digamos assim, (00:11:42.840 –> 00:11:46.920) Da empresa de adotar controles parentais e também a questão da verificação da idade. (00:11:46.920 –> 00:11:52.820) E a verificação da idade que começa agora também a ficar mais presente agora em março. (00:11:52.820 –> 00:11:55.440) Tudo indica que vai acontecer também no Discord. (00:11:55.720 –> 00:11:57.760) Então, isso.. (00:11:57.760 –> 00:12:01.500) E também o Discord, Vinícius, se você quiser falar logo a seguir, (00:12:01.500 –> 00:12:07.160) Mas o Discord também aplicando novas formas de controle parental. (00:12:07.160 –> 00:12:11.440) Mas a grande discussão, e mais uma vez, isso está acontecendo no Brasil e no mundo, é (00:12:11.440 –> 00:12:17.200) Mas qual vai ser ou quais serão as medidas de controle de identidade. (00:12:18.080 –> 00:12:27.420) Então, se fala em biometria facial, se fala em envio de documentos e tal, e aí a grande preocupação que se coloca (00:12:27.420 –> 00:12:33.320) É no aumento das práticas de vigilância sobre como, que as empresas vão lidar com isso, (00:12:33.320 –> 00:12:39.040) Sobre o fato de a biometria facial ser um dado sensível, que poderia ser utilizado para outras sinalidades. (00:12:39.040 –> 00:12:47.020) Uma das notícias aqui mostra que o próprio Discord estava usando uma empresa lá, ou contratou uma empresa de verificação (00:12:47.020 –> 00:12:53.380) Que tinha conexões, que é a tal da persona lá, conexões no site deles, dizia mesmo (00:12:53.380 –> 00:12:55.840) This is a US government system. (00:12:55.840 –> 00:13:01.240) Mas aí que tá, Guilherme, assim, a gente tem um problema bem sério para resolver aí, tá? (00:13:01.240 –> 00:13:08.060) Porque ao mesmo tempo que se quer que as empresas consigam fazer a verificação de idade, (00:13:09.040 –> 00:13:11.160) E aí sim, é ok. (00:13:11.160 –> 00:13:12.660) O que que eu faço essa verificação de idade? (00:13:12.660 –> 00:13:17.000) O que que eu faço de um jeito que eu consiga ter um mínimo de confiança (00:13:17.000 –> 00:13:20.060) De que a criatura não tá mentindo pra mim, que o Zora não tá mentindo pra mim (00:13:20.060 –> 00:13:22.420) E tá entrando com menos de 13 ou coisa parecida? (00:13:22.420 –> 00:13:25.660) Então, eu preciso uma forma de verificar isso. (00:13:25.660 –> 00:13:28.400) Tu vai verificar como? (00:13:28.400 –> 00:13:30.080) Imagina a própria empresa. (00:13:30.080 –> 00:13:34.680) Ela vai usar reconhecimento facial para tentar identificar a idade? (00:13:34.680 –> 00:13:36.440) Ela vai pedir documentação? (00:13:38.360 –> 00:13:40.020) Não sei se isso é bom, se é ruim, entende? (00:13:40.020 –> 00:13:42.000) Eu só tô com o problema. (00:13:42.000 –> 00:13:46.220) Aí, o ideal, eu não gostaria de ficar dando minha identidade pra tudo quanto é empresa. (00:13:46.220 –> 00:13:50.460) Então, uma outra opção o governo tem as informações. (00:13:50.460 –> 00:13:54.360) Uma agência governamental tem as informações, as nossas informações. (00:13:54.360 –> 00:13:55.580) Sabe a idade que a gente tem. (00:13:55.580 –> 00:13:57.540) Tem toda a comprovação de quem a gente é. (00:13:58.220 –> 00:14:07.340) Será que não dá pra ter um protocolo que, de forma anônima, eu acesso um site e esse site (00:14:07.340 –> 00:14:15.160) Conversa com o site do governo e aí eu converso com o site do governo e digo, gera aí um token (00:14:15.160 –> 00:14:21.420) Pra mim, eu sou fulano, gera um token dizendo que eu tenho mais de 18 anos ou tem mais de 13 (00:14:21.420 –> 00:14:22.460) Ou coisa parecida. (00:14:22.460 –> 00:14:27.360) Parecido com o que a gente já faz no Alt pra fazer autenticação quando a gente usa o Google e tudo mais. (00:14:27.360 –> 00:14:31.720) Parecido com isso, mas em vez de dizer quem nós somos, ele diz que idade que a gente tem. (00:14:31.720 –> 00:14:32.860) Tá? (00:14:32.860 –> 00:14:36.000) Só que daí tu tem vários outros problemas. (00:14:36.000 –> 00:14:38.380) Ok, o site pode não saber quem tu é por ali. (00:14:38.380 –> 00:14:39.360) Não tem problema. (00:14:39.360 –> 00:14:41.460) E aí tem outro jeito de saber quem tu mas enfim. (00:14:41.460 –> 00:14:43.180) Até porque você vai ter um cadastro lá. (00:14:43.240 –> 00:14:43.960) Exato. (00:14:43.960 –> 00:14:51.560) Então assim, ok, ao mesmo tempo tu vai estar dizendo pro governo o que que tu tá acessando. (00:14:51.560 –> 00:14:57.260) Então se o governo começar a registrar lá na hora de consultar quem tá consultando o teu cadastro (00:14:57.260 –> 00:15:00.900) Ou pra quem tu tá se autenticando, ele sabe o que que tu tá acessando. (00:15:00.900 –> 00:15:06.060) E aí teve um problema recente, a gente chegou a comentar aqui, eu só não lembro se foi na (00:15:06.060 –> 00:15:10.120) Inglaterra especificamente ou foi na União Europeia, tá? (00:15:10.120 –> 00:15:11.900) E se eu não tô enganado, foi na Inglaterra, cara. (00:15:11.900 –> 00:15:19.940) Mas eles estavam com a demanda de, pra acessar site pornográfico, tu tem que dar a tua (00:15:19.940 –> 00:15:23.300) Identificação real, tá? (00:15:23.300 –> 00:15:28.080) Pra que o site tenha certeza de que tu é o maior de idade. (00:15:28.080 –> 00:15:36.360) E aí começou uma outra discussão da questão da privacidade das pessoas que acessam (00:15:36.360 –> 00:15:37.600) Esses sites e tudo mais. (00:15:38.100 –> 00:15:46.060) Então eu não vejo uma solução perfeita, assim, que empresa privada não guarde as informações (00:15:46.060 –> 00:15:48.760) Ou não tem um repositório de informações pra fazer isso. (00:15:48.760 –> 00:15:52.560) Tem uma solução que já é conhecida que é uma chamada, com a chamada Meu ID. (00:15:52.560 –> 00:15:59.420) Eu uso pra algumas plataformas de jogos, que a ideia é justamente essa, tu se autentica (00:15:59.420 –> 00:16:04.100) Com a plataforma, com a tua documentação, faz prova, faz o esquema da imagem e tudo mais. (00:16:04.100 –> 00:16:06.140) Aí tu usa ela pra se autenticar uma plataforma. (00:16:06.140 –> 00:16:11.660) Então, ou a gente vai ter que ter uma empresa como essa, ou vai ter que vincular com algum (00:16:11.660 –> 00:16:12.500) Órgão do governo. (00:16:12.500 –> 00:16:18.140) Eu não vejo uma saída diferente pro Discord, por exemplo. (00:16:18.140 –> 00:16:21.540) Eu não vejo uma saída diferente pro Facebook. (00:16:22.220 –> 00:16:27.240) Como é que eu vou autenticar, como é que eu vou saber que o usuário tem mais certa idade, (00:16:27.240 –> 00:16:37.040) Sem que eu possa ser enganado e sem pedir uma confirmação mais consistente, documental, (00:16:37.040 –> 00:16:43.280) Nem que seja interfaceada ou intermediada pelo governo ou por uma empresa privada, (00:16:44.460 –> 00:16:49.760) Que diga, não, Vinícius realmente tem mais de 13 anos. (00:16:49.760 –> 00:16:51.620) É um problema não. (00:16:51.620 –> 00:16:53.520) Eu não vejo uma solução fácil pra isso. (00:16:53.520 –> 00:16:55.720) É um problema de privacidade. (00:16:55.720 –> 00:17:01.940) Essa questão que eu comentei aqui desse persona que o Discord tava usando, (00:17:01.940 –> 00:17:05.660) A grande questão era que era um negócio quase como um data broker de verificação (00:17:05.660 –> 00:17:11.980) Que iria ser utilizado para fins de vigilância estatal. (00:17:11.980 –> 00:17:17.900) E aí o Discord, depois que isso vira notícia, eles voltam atrás. (00:17:17.900 –> 00:17:19.940) Eles dizem, nós não vamos mais usar isso. (00:17:19.940 –> 00:17:21.100) Ou seja, assim, tiram. (00:17:21.100 –> 00:17:23.000) O problema é um problema de privacidade. (00:17:23.000 –> 00:17:27.280) Você poderia, eu imagino, Vinícius, que se todo mundo tivesse, (00:17:27.280 –> 00:17:31.960) Levasse proteção de dados a sério, você poderia sim ter um protocolo (00:17:31.960 –> 00:17:36.560) Em que empresas e Estado poderiam fornecer um meio de autenticação (00:17:36.560 –> 00:17:39.540) Privacy-friendly. (00:17:39.540 –> 00:17:43.860) Ou seja, sem a coleta de informações sobre quem acessou o quê. (00:17:43.860 –> 00:17:48.360) Eles, ambos os lados, ou todos os lados, deveriam abrir mão disso. (00:17:48.360 –> 00:17:53.080) Mas nós sabemos que no estado atual de coisas, isso não vai acontecer. (00:17:53.080 –> 00:17:53.800) É o contrário. (00:17:53.800 –> 00:17:57.440) O que essa notícia mostra é que as empresas e governos estão, (00:17:58.560 –> 00:18:02.820) Frequentemente, caminhando para utilizar essa desculpa da verificação (00:18:02.820 –> 00:18:04.760) Para aumentar o monitoramento sobre as pessoas. (00:18:04.760 –> 00:18:06.620) E essa que me parece que é a preocupação. (00:18:06.620 –> 00:18:12.060) Enfim, nós vamos deixar, como sempre, todas as notícias lá no Show Notes. (00:18:12.060 –> 00:18:15.020) Tem outras coisas aqui, se você se interessa por essa questão. (00:18:15.020 –> 00:18:18.660) O papel do Discord em questão de agressão de animais, (00:18:18.660 –> 00:18:21.040) Que teve aí recentemente com o caso do Cão Orelha. (00:18:21.040 –> 00:18:25.860) E também sobre como empresas internamente discutiram e sabem. (00:18:25.860 –> 00:18:29.540) O próprio Instagram sabia como o próprio Instagram fazia mal para meninas (00:18:29.540 –> 00:18:30.680) E para adolescentes e tudo mais. (00:18:30.680 –> 00:18:32.440) Então, isso continua acontecendo. (00:18:32.440 –> 00:18:35.160) Documentos internos aí vazados. (00:18:35.160 –> 00:18:40.440) Como acontece, demonstram que eles sabem dos potenciais maléficos. (00:18:40.440 –> 00:18:46.680) Para adolescentes e continuam oferecendo as plataformas ou serviços (00:18:46.680 –> 00:18:49.700) Sem levar em consideração a proteção da criança e do adolescente. (00:18:49.700 –> 00:18:53.220) Então, fica nesse primeiro grupo aí, Vinícius. (00:18:54.120 –> 00:18:54.640) Perfeito. (00:18:54.640 –> 00:18:57.720) Segundo grupo, tem a ver também. (00:18:57.720 –> 00:19:00.300) Tem a ver com crianças e adolescentes, mas não somente. (00:19:00.300 –> 00:19:03.120) Mas tem a ver também com proteção de.. (00:19:03.120 –> 00:19:05.740) Sobretudo de mulheres na internet, da imagem de mulheres (00:19:05.740 –> 00:19:12.360) E sobre como a IA tem sido utilizada especificamente pelo X ou Twitter, Vinícius? (00:19:12.360 –> 00:19:15.660) Todo mundo que fala X logo depois tem que dizer o antigo Twitter. (00:19:15.660 –> 00:19:17.800) Mas todo mundo já sabe que o X é o antigo Twitter. (00:19:18.040 –> 00:19:20.500) Você fica meio com um vício ali. (00:19:20.500 –> 00:19:22.880) E aí, o que começou? (00:19:22.880 –> 00:19:24.060) O nome virou.. (00:19:24.060 –> 00:19:26.180) Parece que o nome virou o X antigo Twitter mesmo. (00:19:26.180 –> 00:19:27.440) Junto. (00:19:27.440 –> 00:19:28.400) Que nem a HBO. (00:19:28.400 –> 00:19:31.180) Viu a HBO Max, que era HBO. (00:19:31.180 –> 00:19:33.280) Aí depois virou a HBO Max. (00:19:33.280 –> 00:19:34.760) Aí depois foi Max. (00:19:34.760 –> 00:19:35.980) Aí tinha.. (00:19:35.980 –> 00:19:36.140) Gol. (00:19:36.140 –> 00:19:38.360) Aí voltaram com a HBO agora. (00:19:38.360 –> 00:19:40.940) Eu tenho a assinatura deles lá. (00:19:40.940 –> 00:19:41.360) Meu Deus. (00:19:41.360 –> 00:19:44.700) Eu nem sei mais o que eu tô assinando lá, porque eu não sei mais o nome desse. (00:19:44.700 –> 00:19:51.960) E aí a questão que, enfim, nesses últimos meses aí virou, uma notícia muito forte (00:19:51.960 –> 00:19:57.740) Foi que o pessoal pedia lá pro Grock no X pra que ele tirasse, deixasse mulheres nuas (00:19:57.740 –> 00:20:02.920) Ou tirasse a roupa de mulheres, inclusive de crianças. (00:20:03.660 –> 00:20:10.520) E naquela perspectiva, de que a ferramenta é neutra, a ferramenta só faz aquilo que (00:20:10.520 –> 00:20:16.440) O usuário pede pra ela fazer, a culpa não é nossa e tal, mas ao mesmo tempo a ferramenta (00:20:16.440 –> 00:20:22.400) Era programada sem guardrails ali pra despir pessoas. (00:20:22.400 –> 00:20:28.940) E se ela pode ser programada para despir pessoas, me parece que também é fácil colocar guardrails (00:20:28.940 –> 00:20:35.400) Aí pra impedir que ela dispa, dispa, despir, despir pessoas. (00:20:35.400 –> 00:20:37.920) Acho que eu nunca tinha usado o verbo despir dessa forma. (00:20:37.920 –> 00:20:39.840) Então, é.. (00:20:39.840 –> 00:20:41.080) E aí o que que aconteceu? (00:20:41.080 –> 00:20:43.860) Não sei se você quer fazer uma observação agora ou depois aqui, só pra.. (00:20:43.860 –> 00:20:45.080) Não, pode sim, pode sim, pode sim. (00:20:45.080 –> 00:20:46.580) Aí o que que aconteceu? (00:20:46.580 –> 00:20:52.860) Foi toda uma pressão em cima do X, Elon Musk chega e diz, não, olha, nós vamos, (00:20:52.860 –> 00:21:00.340) Então vamos ampliar os controles aqui, só vai poder despir pessoas quem tiver a conta (00:21:00.340 –> 00:21:01.920) Paga do X. (00:21:01.920 –> 00:21:09.820) E obviamente que daí a emenda saiu pior que o soneto e no Brasil também já vimos movimentações, (00:21:10.160 –> 00:21:17.560) De três entidades aqui, a NPD, Ministério Público Federal e Senacom, em primeiro lugar fizeram (00:21:17.560 –> 00:21:25.420) Uma recomendação lá em janeiro e agora mais recentemente, depois da resposta do X, esses (00:21:25.420 –> 00:21:32.400) Três órgãos entenderam que as medidas foram insuficientes e cada um deles, na medida das (00:21:32.400 –> 00:21:36.620) Suas competências, iniciou um processo pra determinar. (00:21:36.620 –> 00:21:42.500) Aí sim, antes tinham sugerido medidas, o X informou as medidas que foram tomadas, eles (00:21:42.500 –> 00:21:47.500) Entenderam que não foram suficientes e a partir de agora começaram, cada um na medida das (00:21:47.500 –> 00:21:53.000) Suas competências, procedimentos administrativos, seja a NPD, uma medida preventiva, o Ministério (00:21:53.000 –> 00:21:58.960) Público também, um procedimento interno e a Senacom também numa medida cautelar administrativa (00:21:58.960 –> 00:22:01.700) Determinando que eles imediatamente parem. (00:22:01.700 –> 00:22:08.720) E implementem soluções técnicas e administrativas pra impedir a geração de imagens de pessoas (00:22:08.720 –> 00:22:10.000) Nuas. (00:22:10.620 –> 00:22:16.580) E pra variar. (00:22:10.620 –> 00:22:16.580) Pra variar as maiores vítimas disso foram mulheres, tá? (00:22:16.580 –> 00:22:19.800) E inclusive menores de idade, tá? (00:22:19.800 –> 00:22:20.800) E adolescentes. (00:22:20.800 –> 00:22:25.920) Isso foi o que causou, claro que, mesmo que não tivesse menores de idade envolvidas, (00:22:25.920 –> 00:22:32.620) Isso já gerou bastante polêmica, mas com menores de idade é a coisa.. (00:22:33.300 –> 00:22:37.840) E aí uma coisa, Guilherme, só uma observação, a gente já fala há muitos anos aqui no Segurança (00:22:37.840 –> 00:22:42.880) Legal, há muito tempo, essa questão da super exposição das crianças na internet e muitas (00:22:42.880 –> 00:22:43.960) Vezes pelos próprios pais. (00:22:43.960 –> 00:22:48.920) Quando a gente falava assim, ó, não expõe, não fica botando foto, não sei o quê, tu não (00:22:48.920 –> 00:22:50.900) Sabe o que vai poder ser feito com isso amanhã. (00:22:52.040 –> 00:22:56.620) E eu lembro de estar falando e falando sobre isso em 2015, em escolas, fazer umas palestras (00:22:56.620 –> 00:22:59.020) Assim, falando pro pessoal exatamente nesses termos. (00:22:59.020 –> 00:23:07.800) E agora aqui estamos nós em 2026 com o X antigo Twitter, uma ferramenta de ar embutida (00:23:07.800 –> 00:23:13.940) Que, cara, tira a roupa de adolescente, menor de idade e tudo mais. (00:23:14.480 –> 00:23:19.600) E aí, e mesmo que você seja cuidadoso com a imagem dos filhos e tal, que é realmente (00:23:19.600 –> 00:23:20.500) A recomendação.. (00:23:20.500 –> 00:23:22.560) As escolas tinham foto, publicam, é um.. (00:23:22.560 –> 00:23:28.740) Exato, não, e ainda você tem pessoas públicas, que eventualmente, eventualmente não, (00:23:28.740 –> 00:23:34.940) Mas pessoas públicas que têm a sua imagem publicada em função da sua, da sua atividade, (00:23:34.940 –> 00:23:40.600) Sei lá, uma política, pessoas do ramo político, enfim, artistas e tudo mais, e ainda (00:23:40.600 –> 00:23:46.220) Assim não há, me parece, aliás, eu tenho certeza que não há um direito de pessoas (00:23:46.220 –> 00:23:53.460) Usarem IA pra macular a imagem de mulheres, inclusive teve notícias, pegaram lá uma (00:23:53.460 –> 00:23:58.420) Primeira ministra, não lembro exatamente de qual país, e aí começaram a fazer isso (00:23:58.420 –> 00:24:02.200) Com a imagem dela pra desqualificá-la, enfim. (00:24:02.200 –> 00:24:10.580) E aí acaba entrando, Vinícius, um pouco naquilo, eu vou puxar lá pro grupo 6, (00:24:10.580 –> 00:24:16.200) Mas tem um pouco a ver, o Vinícius me mandou esses dias uma notícia de um.. (00:24:16.200 –> 00:24:21.120) Seria um aborígine, da Nova Zelândia, que fazia vídeos.. (00:24:21.120 –> 00:24:21.760) O Steve Irving. (00:24:21.760 –> 00:24:23.340) Conta aí a história, conta aí a história. (00:24:23.340 –> 00:24:23.680) O Steve Irving. (00:24:23.680 –> 00:24:24.440) . (00:24:24.440 –> 00:24:26.260) É inacreditável. (00:24:26.260 –> 00:24:29.200) O Steve Irving, o Steve Irving é um.. (00:24:29.200 –> 00:24:37.740) Um aborígine, australiano, que faz vídeos.. (00:24:37.740 –> 00:24:38.240) Neo-zelandês. (00:24:38.240 –> 00:24:38.740) Neo-zelandês. (00:24:38.740 –> 00:24:39.380) Neo-zelandês. (00:24:39.380 –> 00:24:42.400) É Nova Zelândia, não misturar Nova Zelândia com a Austrália. (00:24:42.400 –> 00:24:43.140) Nada. (00:24:43.140 –> 00:24:49.400) Neo-zelandês, que faz vídeos, aqueles vídeos assim, meio de aventura, assim, de ver os bichos (00:24:49.400 –> 00:24:50.780) De perto e meio.. (00:24:50.780 –> 00:24:55.620) Encontra uma cobra e mexe na cobra e um escorpião e por aí vai. (00:24:55.700 –> 00:24:56.700) Esses vídeos assim, sabe? (00:24:56.700 –> 00:24:57.140) E mostrando.. (00:24:57.140 –> 00:25:00.160) Mas mostrando os animais lá da Nova Zelândia. (00:25:00.160 –> 00:25:01.120) Sim, exatamente. (00:25:01.120 –> 00:25:02.460) Fazendo um negócio.. (00:25:02.460 –> 00:25:04.060) Cara, um negócio muito bem feito. (00:25:04.060 –> 00:25:05.340) Um negócio muito bem feito. (00:25:05.340 –> 00:25:06.800) Tipo um National Geographic, assim. (00:25:06.800 –> 00:25:09.320) Tinha um outro cara, aquele cara que morreu.. (00:25:09.320 –> 00:25:13.500) Bem conhecido, ele morreu com ferrão de uma arraia. (00:25:13.500 –> 00:25:14.200) Uma arraia. (00:25:14.200 –> 00:25:15.560) No peito. (00:25:15.560 –> 00:25:18.040) Eu não lembro o nome dele, mas tudo bem. (00:25:18.040 –> 00:25:21.040) .. (00:25:21.040 –> 00:25:24.880) E esse personagem é uma vibe muito parecida, tá? (00:25:25.700 –> 00:25:30.620) Cara, um negócio com, assim, muita gente seguindo. (00:25:30.620 –> 00:25:37.660) Houve 90 mil pessoas no Instagram e aí começou a chamar muita atenção, muita atenção. (00:25:37.660 –> 00:25:42.600) E aí o cara que criou o personagem veio ao público e dizia, ó, esse cara não existe. (00:25:43.400 –> 00:25:47.980) O Steve Irving era o cara que morreu com ferrão de arraia. (00:25:49.420 –> 00:25:50.400) Sim, verdade. (00:25:50.400 –> 00:25:51.480) Na notícia, sim. (00:25:51.480 –> 00:25:53.080) Eu misturei aqui que ele chamou.. (00:25:53.080 –> 00:25:54.620) É o Aboriginal Steve Irving. (00:25:54.620 –> 00:25:56.860) É o Steve Irving aborigine. (00:25:56.860 –> 00:25:57.340) Exatamente. (00:25:57.340 –> 00:25:59.780) O Steve Irving é o cara real que morreu. (00:25:59.780 –> 00:26:00.720) Isso, isso. (00:26:00.720 –> 00:26:01.220) Isso. (00:26:01.220 –> 00:26:03.380) E o nome do cara que.. (00:26:03.380 –> 00:26:06.220) Essa persona digital criada. (00:26:07.620 –> 00:26:09.340) Quem criou foi o.. (00:26:09.340 –> 00:26:10.400) Quem criou foi o.. (00:26:10.400 –> 00:26:13.720) O Keegan, John Manson, o cara que fez a.. (00:26:13.720 –> 00:26:15.140) Que criou o personagem. (00:26:15.140 –> 00:26:17.260) Cara, eu não tenho o nome do personagem aqui. (00:26:17.260 –> 00:26:20.040) Seria o Bush Legend. (00:26:20.040 –> 00:26:20.480) Mas.. (00:26:20.480 –> 00:26:21.320) Bush Legend. (00:26:21.320 –> 00:26:22.260) Esse é o canal. (00:26:22.260 –> 00:26:23.760) Esse é o canal, Bush Legend. (00:26:23.760 –> 00:26:24.520) O Bush Legend. (00:26:24.520 –> 00:26:25.260) A conta aqui, ó. (00:26:25.260 –> 00:26:26.260) Tá separado aqui. (00:26:26.260 –> 00:26:27.280) Bush Legend, a conta. (00:26:27.780 –> 00:26:30.500) Mas o interessante é que não é a conta em si, tá? (00:26:30.500 –> 00:26:33.260) Quem quiser olhar o Bush Legend lá, deve estar no ar ainda esse negócio. (00:26:33.260 –> 00:26:35.240) O interessante não é a conta em si. (00:26:35.240 –> 00:26:41.400) O interessante é que é uma coisa que tu assiste e, cara, tu não se dá a conta que (00:26:41.400 –> 00:26:42.360) Não é real. (00:26:42.360 –> 00:26:47.360) Talvez ali num vídeo ou outro tu possa até perceber, tá? (00:26:47.360 –> 00:26:50.880) Mas a maioria das pessoas não vai perceber. (00:26:50.880 –> 00:26:51.920) Não vai se dar conta, não vai se dar conta. (00:26:51.920 –> 00:26:53.560) Então, assim.. (00:26:53.560 –> 00:27:01.540) E recentemente teve um vídeo também, eu vi essa semana, ou semana passada, um vídeo (00:27:01.540 –> 00:27:06.360) Em que tava o Brad Pitt lutando com o Tom Cruise, tá? (00:27:06.360 –> 00:27:10.320) E eles discutindo os Epstein Files na luta. (00:27:10.320 –> 00:27:20.040) Eu mostrei pra minha esposa o vídeo e disse assim, olha só o trailer de um filme que eles (00:27:20.040 –> 00:27:20.940) Estão lançando e tal. (00:27:21.420 –> 00:27:24.060) Aí a gente começou a ver o vídeo, eu já tinha visto, ela começou a ver o vídeo, (00:27:24.060 –> 00:27:29.440) Assim, tá, mas aí eles falando e tal, e eles se batendo e não paravam de se bater (00:27:29.440 –> 00:27:31.840) E conversar, assim, mas que cena mais. (00:27:31.840 –> 00:27:33.080) Sem propósito. (00:27:33.480 –> 00:27:34.820) Uma coisa meio.. (00:27:34.820 –> 00:27:37.000) Mas ao mesmo tempo ela achou que fosse verdade. (00:27:37.000 –> 00:27:38.060) Aham. (00:27:38.060 –> 00:27:43.120) Ela achou que fosse verdade, porque os personagens, ali o Tom Cruise e o Brad Pitt, tá certinho (00:27:43.120 –> 00:27:43.500) Ali, cara. (00:27:43.500 –> 00:27:44.900) Claro que fica.. (00:27:44.900 –> 00:27:48.780) Depois eles começam a zoar, começam a mudar demais, assim, começam a botar uns personagens (00:27:48.780 –> 00:27:49.800) Meio estranhos no negócio. (00:27:50.560 –> 00:27:51.240) Mas é.. (00:27:51.240 –> 00:27:51.800) E há, cara. (00:27:51.800 –> 00:27:53.660) E aí isso gera tanto.. (00:27:53.660 –> 00:27:54.580) Não só uma preocupação. (00:27:54.580 –> 00:27:56.300) Agora nós estamos vando pra ano de eleição. (00:27:56.300 –> 00:27:57.360) Vamos ver o que vai acontecer. (00:27:57.360 –> 00:28:07.520) Mas não só gera essa possível confusão com quem assiste, pra quem assiste, mas também (00:28:07.520 –> 00:28:13.300) Tá gerando uma boa discussão lá nos Estados Unidos com relação, lá nos sindicatos dos (00:28:13.300 –> 00:28:16.380) Artistas e tudo mais. (00:28:16.380 –> 00:28:23.620) Porque, cara, se tu não quiser usar a imagem de alguém, que obviamente tu vai ter que pagar (00:28:23.620 –> 00:28:28.240) Pra usar a imagem do Tom Cruise, ninguém discute que mesmo que seja autorizado pelo Tom Cruise (00:28:28.240 –> 00:28:33.160) Tu vai ter que pagar o Tom Cruise pelo uso da imagem dele, mas que tu possa começar a criar (00:28:33.160 –> 00:28:37.600) Personagens completamente fictícios, ou pessoas. (00:28:37.600 –> 00:28:44.560) Atores fictícios, pra.. (00:28:37.600 –> 00:28:44.560) Pra atuarem num filme, atuarem numa série. (00:28:45.560 –> 00:28:48.320) E aí tu não precisar mais. (00:28:48.320 –> 00:28:53.580) Talvez tu possa substituir até o roteirista na brincadeira, mas tu não precisar mais (00:28:53.580 –> 00:28:55.500) De atores humanos pra atuar. (00:28:55.500 –> 00:28:57.120) Então.. (00:28:57.120 –> 00:29:01.940) Tem uma discussão bem interessante em cima disso, sabe? (00:29:01.940 –> 00:29:07.680) A questão do emprego dos artistas e da questão do conteúdo que tu entrega. (00:29:07.680 –> 00:29:09.200) Pras pessoas. (00:29:09.200 –> 00:29:11.120) Tu vai assistir um filme.. (00:29:11.120 –> 00:29:14.480) Assim, tu topa assistir um filme muito bom feito por Iá? (00:29:14.480 –> 00:29:16.560) Cara.. (00:29:16.560 –> 00:29:21.280) Eu acho que tem um elemento ético, inclusive se fala isso lá numa das notícias. (00:29:21.800 –> 00:29:27.300) Que é um preceito de trans.. (00:29:21.800 –> 00:29:27.300) Um preceito ético de transparência no uso de Iá. (00:29:27.300 –> 00:29:32.160) Então, quando a gente fala em princípios de governança de Iá, a transparência, ela (00:29:32.160 –> 00:29:36.060) Se desdobra em várias.. (00:29:32.160 –> 00:29:36.060) Várias situações. (00:29:36.060 –> 00:29:40.680) E uma das situações que a transparência se desdobra, enquanto princípio que deve reger (00:29:40.680 –> 00:29:45.320) O uso da Iá, isso eu tô falando porque é princípio já adotado na União Europeia (00:29:45.320 –> 00:29:46.940) E tudo mais, é.. (00:29:46.940 –> 00:29:51.140) . (00:29:46.940 –> 00:29:51.140) Você tem que saber que aquele conteúdo é gerado por Iá. (00:29:51.140 –> 00:29:52.800) E a grande.. (00:29:52.800 –> 00:29:54.320) E por que que isso virou notícia? (00:29:54.320 –> 00:29:55.540) Na verdade, são duas coisas. (00:29:55.540 –> 00:30:00.500) Isso virou notícia porque não se deram.. (00:29:55.540 –> 00:30:00.500) Ninguém se deu conta. (00:30:00.500 –> 00:30:05.540) Porque se diz, você mostra pra pessoa, se você olhar num vídeo e prestar atenção, (00:30:05.540 –> 00:30:06.760) Você vai descobrir que é. (00:30:06.760 –> 00:30:10.420) A questão é que hoje, até a gente comentava isso antes. (00:30:10.420 –> 00:30:17.520) Nós, eu e você e quem nos escuta, nós já estamos consumindo conteúdos gerados por (00:30:17.520 –> 00:30:18.440) Iá sem se dar conta. (00:30:18.440 –> 00:30:18.840) Por quê? (00:30:18.840 –> 00:30:23.400) Porque a lógica de consumir conteúdo em rede social não é você ficar prestando atenção (00:30:23.400 –> 00:30:28.980) Nos detalhes, a lógica é que você vai passando rapidamente sobre certos conteúdos. (00:30:28.980 –> 00:30:32.780) E você fica vendo muitos, aquela história do feed infinito que a gente já falou. (00:30:32.780 –> 00:30:38.080) Que é uma das maldições das redes sociais e o que aprisiona as pessoas lá dentro é (00:30:38.080 –> 00:30:38.860) O feed infinito. (00:30:38.860 –> 00:30:39.900) E vamos lá. (00:30:39.900 –> 00:30:42.620) O teu espírito crítico ali fica bem rebaixado. (00:30:42.840 –> 00:30:45.960) Claro que quando a gente olha o vídeo depois sabendo o que bom, tudo bem. (00:30:45.960 –> 00:30:51.860) Ontem mesmo eu tava na academia e fica uma TV ligada lá e tava passando uma propaganda (00:30:51.860 –> 00:30:53.300) Do Liquida Porto Alegre. (00:30:53.300 –> 00:30:57.000) É tipo uma liquidação de verão que eles fazem aqui na cidade. (00:30:57.800 –> 00:31:05.020) E, cara, cinco segundos da coisa já deu pra ver que era tudo gerado por Iá, cara. (00:31:05.020 –> 00:31:09.860) Toda uma propaganda gerada por Iá, até porque no final tinha uma senhora bem idosa correndo (00:31:09.860 –> 00:31:15.540) Junto com um monte de pessoas que ela não teria como uma senhora. (00:31:15.540 –> 00:31:19.400) Enfim, até teria, mas chamou a atenção o fato de ser uma senhora bem idosa correndo (00:31:19.400 –> 00:31:21.000) Loucamente na cidade, assim, sabe? (00:31:21.640 –> 00:31:25.980) Não que não seja possível, não que não seja possível. (00:31:25.980 –> 00:31:29.660) Não, não que não seja possível, mas, assim, aquilo já disparou, não, como assim. (00:31:29.660 –> 00:31:35.940) Então, você tem um elemento ético muito, isso tá acontecendo, a propaganda, eu acredito, (00:31:35.940 –> 00:31:39.720) Que o CONAR, enfim, a regulamentação da propaganda tem que deixar isso claro. (00:31:39.720 –> 00:31:45.220) Olha, você está assistindo uma reportagem, uma propaganda feita por Iá, assim como você (00:31:45.220 –> 00:31:49.340) Quando você tá consumindo um produto no supermercado, diz se aquilo ali tem transgênico (00:31:49.340 –> 00:31:51.900) Ou não, ou o que consta. (00:31:51.900 –> 00:31:52.140) Excesso de sal. (00:31:52.140 –> 00:31:53.980) Excesso de sal, por que não? (00:31:53.980 –> 00:31:58.020) Porque a gente sabe que isso é bem brain rotizável. (00:31:58.020 –> 00:31:58.900) Aham. (00:31:58.900 –> 00:32:01.200) Brain rotizável, você não inventei agora, Vinícius. (00:32:01.200 –> 00:32:02.880) É um bom verbo. (00:32:02.880 –> 00:32:04.220) Brain rotizável. (00:32:04.220 –> 00:32:13.740) Vinícius, Brasil, você já deve ter ouvido falar disso, mas Brasil e União Europeia, (00:32:13.740 –> 00:32:17.320) Consolidaram lá o seu acordo de adequação mútua. (00:32:17.320 –> 00:32:23.180) Então, basicamente, agora, no final de janeiro, foi anunciado esse reconhecimento recíproco (00:32:23.180 –> 00:32:25.560) De adequação dos regimes de proteção de dados. (00:32:25.560 –> 00:32:31.800) E tem-se pintado isso como um marco histórico, porque, além desse franco reconhecimento, (00:32:31.800 –> 00:32:35.060) A ideia é que se abra, principalmente para o Brasil. (00:32:35.440 –> 00:32:42.000) Mas a ideia é que o Brasil poderia se beneficiar com base nesse acordo de adequação, (00:32:42.000 –> 00:32:47.660) Prestando serviços, para toda a União Europeia. (00:32:47.660 –> 00:32:53.020) Então, isso poderia ampliar o uso de data centers para IA e também o uso de próprio serviço, (00:32:53.020 –> 00:32:56.040) Porque uma vez que você tem esse reconhecimento, você não precisa, (00:32:57.180 –> 00:33:00.580) Digamos assim, quando você for fazer a transferência internacional de dados, (00:33:00.580 –> 00:33:03.140) Que é uma das situações lá em que você faz de um lado para o outro, (00:33:03.140 –> 00:33:05.800) Esse reconhecimento implica na possibilidade automática, (00:33:05.800 –> 00:33:08.880) Sem, por exemplo, você pedir, precisar pedir consentimento, (00:33:08.880 –> 00:33:12.820) Ou fazer avisos adicionais, ou reconhecimentos das autoridades. (00:33:12.820 –> 00:33:18.980) Então, abre-se, de fato, um espaço comercial também, (00:33:19.040 –> 00:33:22.300) Não seja de fluxos, de fluxo seguro de dados, enfim. (00:33:22.300 –> 00:33:24.600) Qual a questão? (00:33:24.600 –> 00:33:31.800) A questão é que, quando a gente faz uma comparação em como a União Europeia tem aplicado sanções (00:33:31.800 –> 00:33:35.620) E como o Brasil tem aplicado sanções, mesmo diante desse reconhecimento, (00:33:35.620 –> 00:33:39.620) Nós notamos que há uma distância, porque no Brasil ainda há, (00:33:39.620 –> 00:33:43.980) E aqui eu falo como titular de dados pessoais, (00:33:44.360 –> 00:33:49.580) Ainda há um certo, é um certo, como é que eu vou dizer, (00:33:49.580 –> 00:33:54.640) Atraso, talvez, na aplicação de sanções em situações muito complexas. (00:33:54.640 –> 00:33:57.340) Apenas para vocês terem uma ideia de alguns números, (00:33:57.340 –> 00:34:00.120) Na França, por exemplo, agora é janeiro, fevereiro, (00:34:00.120 –> 00:34:06.280) Você teve a France Travel, foi multada em 5 milhões de euros, (00:34:06.280 –> 00:34:09.920) A Free Mobile, 42 milhões de euros, (00:34:10.920 –> 00:34:14.820) É dividido aqui em Free Mobile e Free, não sei o que é. (00:34:14.820 –> 00:34:19.140) Então, você teve aí todas essas situações somente, (00:34:19.140 –> 00:34:22.120) Ou seja, multas milionárias na França, (00:34:22.120 –> 00:34:27.400) Somente por situações de vazamentos que se confirmou que ocorreram (00:34:27.400 –> 00:34:30.300) Por causa de insuficiência de medidas de segurança (00:34:30.300 –> 00:34:32.560) Adotadas por essas organizações. (00:34:32.560 –> 00:34:34.060) Isso na França. (00:34:34.060 –> 00:34:36.940) Na Espanha, que é uma autoridade pequena, (00:34:36.940 –> 00:34:40.180) Tem, se não me engano, menos funcionários do que, (00:34:40.180 –> 00:34:43.540) Até fiz esses dias um apanhado de número de funcionários e tal, (00:34:43.540 –> 00:34:45.960) Mas acho que tem menos funcionários do que a nossa NPD, (00:34:45.960 –> 00:34:53.040) Eles terminaram 2025 com 394 procedimentos sancionadores (00:34:53.040 –> 00:34:57.040) E com multas que somadas deram 40 milhões de euros. (00:34:57.040 –> 00:35:00.040) Então, acho que para consolidar, de fato, (00:35:00.040 –> 00:35:03.700) Urge que nós tenhamos um aprimoramento, (00:35:03.700 –> 00:35:05.480) E eu não falo nem somente em multas, (00:35:05.480 –> 00:35:08.720) Eu falo em sanções, impedir certos tratamentos, (00:35:08.720 –> 00:35:14.400) Caminhar justamente para a implementação de medidas de segurança, (00:35:14.400 –> 00:35:16.680) Resolver a questão das farmácias, (00:35:16.680 –> 00:35:20.380) Resolver a questão que a gente já falou aqui no nosso podcast (00:35:20.380 –> 00:35:26.980) Sobre a farra das biometrias faciais em academias, (00:35:26.980 –> 00:35:29.580) Em condomínios. (00:35:29.580 –> 00:35:32.780) Então, acho que a gente comemora, de fato, (00:35:32.780 –> 00:35:36.060) Mas há um caminho ainda a ser perseguido, me parece, (00:35:36.060 –> 00:35:40.100) Posso estar errado, enfim, mas me parece que há um caminho ainda a ser percorrido. (00:35:40.100 –> 00:35:42.580) Isso, obviamente, é uma via de duas mãos. (00:35:42.580 –> 00:35:45.340) Então, a gente tem uma equivalência. (00:35:45.340 –> 00:35:46.080) Isso. (00:35:46.080 –> 00:35:48.500) Então, uma coisa que muda, então, por exemplo, (00:35:48.500 –> 00:35:51.660) Se você quiser usar algum data center na Europa, (00:35:51.660 –> 00:35:53.620) Na União Europeia, para fazer mais ou menos de dados (00:35:53.620 –> 00:35:57.820) E cidadãos brasileiros, em princípio, ok. (00:35:57.820 –> 00:35:59.860) Isso. (00:35:59.860 –> 00:36:02.260) Quando você tem na União Europeia, (00:36:02.260 –> 00:36:04.040) Nos países que fazem parte da União Europeia, (00:36:04.040 –> 00:36:06.980) Não é na Europa, porque você tem países que.. (00:36:06.980 –> 00:36:08.340) Sim, eu falei, União Europeia, não é Europeia. (00:36:08.340 –> 00:36:10.960) Tu tem Inglaterra que não faz mais parte da União Europeia. (00:36:10.960 –> 00:36:12.060) Inglaterra não é mais. (00:36:12.060 –> 00:36:14.520) Aí o pessoal lá da Inglaterra, (00:36:14.520 –> 00:36:15.720) Quando entra na União Europeia, (00:36:15.720 –> 00:36:18.300) Eles ficam na fila não dos residentes da União Europeia, (00:36:18.300 –> 00:36:20.040) Eles têm que enfrentar a fila de todo mundo, (00:36:20.040 –> 00:36:21.800) Mas Suíça também não é. (00:36:21.960 –> 00:36:22.660) É engraçado. (00:36:22.660 –> 00:36:24.420) A Suíça também não é. (00:36:24.420 –> 00:36:25.960) Embora a Suíça tenha, (00:36:25.960 –> 00:36:30.200) Seja conhecida justamente por hospedar sistemas, (00:36:30.200 –> 00:36:32.080) The Privacy Friendly, de segurança, (00:36:32.080 –> 00:36:34.180) Mais VPNs que ficam lá na Suíça, (00:36:34.180 –> 00:36:36.520) Se vendem, mas não faz parte da Suíça. (00:36:36.520 –> 00:36:38.740) A Suíça acho que faz parte do espaço Schengen, (00:36:38.740 –> 00:36:39.340) Se não me engano, (00:36:39.340 –> 00:36:42.320) Que permite que você entre, (00:36:42.320 –> 00:36:44.640) Sem a necessidade de passar por fronteiras, (00:36:44.640 –> 00:36:46.120) Tem o tráfego livre, (00:36:46.120 –> 00:36:47.180) Mas acho que não faz, (00:36:47.180 –> 00:36:49.740) Mas não faz da União Europeia. (00:36:51.160 –> 00:36:52.620) Bom, Vinícius, (00:36:52.620 –> 00:36:54.680) Seguindo aqui, (00:36:54.680 –> 00:36:59.520) Nós temos também toda a questão da vigilância, (00:36:59.520 –> 00:37:02.240) Lá no Grupo 5, (00:37:02.240 –> 00:37:04.420) De vigilância e privacidade, (00:37:04.420 –> 00:37:05.220) Que nós vimos, (00:37:05.220 –> 00:37:07.680) Que me chamou bastante atenção, (00:37:07.680 –> 00:37:09.320) Chamou bastante atenção, (00:37:09.320 –> 00:37:13.660) Que foi o FBI solicitando a Microsoft (00:37:13.660 –> 00:37:17.460) A entrega de chaves BitLocker. (00:37:17.460 –> 00:37:20.720) E a gente estava conversando sobre isso antes, (00:37:20.720 –> 00:37:23.100) Não é obrigatório, (00:37:23.100 –> 00:37:26.540) Que você salve a chave do BitLocker na Microsoft. (00:37:26.540 –> 00:37:26.940) Não. (00:37:26.940 –> 00:37:27.900) Você pode salvar. (00:37:27.900 –> 00:37:29.380) Pode não estar em outro lugar. (00:37:30.520 –> 00:37:33.140) O que chama atenção aqui é a possibilidade, (00:37:33.140 –> 00:37:33.740) E vejam, (00:37:33.740 –> 00:37:35.360) Assim, (00:37:35.360 –> 00:37:36.800) O FBI e a polícia, (00:37:36.800 –> 00:37:39.040) Eu tenho absoluta certeza (00:37:39.040 –> 00:37:44.300) Que todos esses órgãos de investigação, (00:37:44.300 –> 00:37:45.220) De persecução penal, (00:37:45.220 –> 00:37:46.440) Tem o direito de, (00:37:46.440 –> 00:37:47.820) Eventualmente, (00:37:47.820 –> 00:37:50.180) Por uma ordem judicial fundamentada, (00:37:50.180 –> 00:37:52.420) Pedir acesso a nuvens, (00:37:52.420 –> 00:37:54.300) Como é o que está acontecendo agora. (00:37:54.560 –> 00:37:56.020) Os grandes escândalos aí, (00:37:56.020 –> 00:37:56.820) Banco Master, (00:37:57.240 –> 00:37:57.620) Mas, assim, (00:37:57.620 –> 00:38:01.300) Grandes escândalos e de crimes e tal, (00:38:01.300 –> 00:38:04.420) O pessoal acaba acessando nuvem de gente (00:38:04.420 –> 00:38:06.180) Que deixa o WhatsApp fazendo, (00:38:06.180 –> 00:38:07.480) Não se fala muito, (00:38:07.480 –> 00:38:10.940) Mas que deixa o WhatsApp fazendo backup lá no Google, (00:38:10.940 –> 00:38:11.940) Acessa o Google, (00:38:11.940 –> 00:38:14.000) Recupera o backup e vê tudo que o cara fez, (00:38:14.000 –> 00:38:14.720) Quem conversou, (00:38:14.720 –> 00:38:16.020) E arquivos e tudo mais. (00:38:16.020 –> 00:38:18.580) Mas o que chama atenção (00:38:18.580 –> 00:38:22.160) Sobretudo como os Estados Unidos agora estão se posicionando, (00:38:22.160 –> 00:38:23.440) Nessa parte de vigilância, (00:38:23.440 –> 00:38:25.520) Já vem se posicionando ao longo dos últimos anos, (00:38:25.520 –> 00:38:27.260) De repente, (00:38:27.260 –> 00:38:30.500) O FBI pegar a tua chave do BitLocker (0

“Vibecoding,” or using artificial-intelligence tools such as Claude Code to generate code for websites or apps, is the newest A.I. trend, and it could transform the software-development industry.Kevin Roose, a technology columnist for The New York Times, takes us inside the process.Guest: Kevin Roose, a technology columnist for The New York Times in the San Francisco Bay Area and a host of the Times tech podcast, “Hard Fork.”Background reading: Here are five ways people are using Claude Code.With “vibecoding," A.I. can help anyone build an app.Not a coder? With A.I., just having an idea can be enough.Photo: Photo illustration by The New York TimesFor more information on today's episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On Christmas Eve, Elon Musk's X rolled out an in-app tool that lets users alter other people's photos and post the results directly in reply. With minimal safeguards, it quickly became a pipeline for sexualized, non-consensual deepfakes, including imagery involving minors, delivered straight into victims' notifications.  Renée DiResta, Hany Farid, and Casey Newton join Kara to dig into the scale of the harm, the failure of app stores and regulators to act quickly, and why the “free speech” rhetoric used to defend the abuse is incoherent. Kara explores what accountability could look like — and what comes next as AI tools get more powerful. Renée DiResta is the former technical research manager at Stanford's Internet Observatory. She researched online CSAM for years and is one of the world's leading experts on online disinformation and propaganda. She's also the author of Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality. Hany Farid is a professor of computer sciences and engineering at the University of California, Berkeley. He's been described as the father of digital image forensics and has spent years developing tools to combat CSAM. Casey Newton is the founder of the tech newsletter Platformer and the co-host of The New York Times podcast Hard Fork.  This episode was recorded on Tuesday, January 20th. When reached for comment, a spokesperson for X referred us to a ⁠a statement post on X⁠, which reads in part: We remain committed to making X a safe platform for everyone and continue to have zero tolerance for any forms of child sexual exploitation, non-consensual nudity, and unwanted sexual content. We take action to remove high-priority violative content, including Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM) and non-consensual nudity, taking appropriate action against accounts that violate our X Rules. We also report accounts seeking Child Sexual Exploitation materials to law enforcement authorities as necessary. Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find us on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The jobs artificial intelligence could replace and the blunders it makes tend to steal all the headlines. But are there also ways we could use AI to actually make us better people? And how would we even define or assess that? At the 2025 Aspen Ideas Festival, three experts on the human side of this technology discuss what AI is capable of, how it's limited and how it could be harnessed for self-improvement. UCLA marketing and psychology professor Hal Hershfield joins MIT researcher Pat Pataranutaporn and co-host of the “Hard Fork” podcast, Kevin Roose, for a lively exploration of AI-assisted human potential. Journalist and host of “Radio Atlantic,” Hanna Rosin, moderates the conversation.

Over the past year we've been working with the podcast “Search Engine” on a project that reimagines what the internet can be. What if instead of rage-baiting, a social platform incentivized friendly interaction and good faith discussion? Today we're bringing “Hard Fork” listeners an episode we made with the “Search Engine” team called “The Fediverse Experiment” where we end up creating our own social media platform. Guest:PJ Vogt, host of the podcast “Search Engine.” Additional Reading: The Dream of the Fediverse Is Alive on ThreadsWhat Is Mastodon and Why Are People Leaving Twitter for It? We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Our present version of the internet is arguably the worst it's ever been. Which means – any shot at changing things, even an unlikely one – is worth trying out. Three podcasters who've spent years critiquing social media companies try to build their own small alternative social media. A collaboration with Hard Fork's Kevin Roose and Casey Newton. Incognito Mode⁠⁠, our ad-free, no-rerun, bonus episode feed. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Happy New Year! We're kicking things off by sharing our tech resolutions for 2026 and reflecting on how we fared with our social media and meditation goals from last year.Then, we open up the listener mailbag and answer your questions on data centers in space, who's to blame when a customer service A.I. bot lies to you and whether it's OK to deepfake Santa into your home security footage.Also, get your very own “Hard Fork” hats, now available at the Times Store: https://store.nytimes.com/products/hard-fork-baseball-cap Additional Reading: What I Learned About Productivity This YearData Centers in Space + A.I. Policy on the Right + A Gemini History MysteryShuffling Some Whimsy Into Poker and Blackjack We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Kevin recently joined the hosts of The Wirecutter Show for a conversation about the A.I. products he's using, strategies to make chatbots work better and his beloved robot vacuums Bruce Roose and Bruce Roose Deuce. It's a conversation we think Hard Fork listeners will enjoy.We'll be back in your feeds with our annual tech resolutions episode on Friday.  Additional Reading Tips for Using A.I. Smarter With Hard Fork's Kevin Roose We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Alex Chepurnoy is a cryptographer & researcher who famously wrote a Bitcoin client in Haskell in only 3600 lines of code. He is currently working on Ergo, a proof of work blockchain which improves upon Bitcoin's design in order to achieve smart contracts and DeFi. How does it work? Let's find out! Time stamps: 00:01:11 Introducing Alex Chepurnoy 00:01:51 Alex's Bitcoin Discovery & Early Development 00:02:37 Namecoin, SmartContract.com, and Cardano Involvement 00:05:15 Satoshi Theories & Code Analysis 00:07:00 Rewriting Bitcoin & Distributed Systems Perspective 00:08:39 Consensus Protocols & Altcoin Proliferation 00:10:20 Bitcoin's Early Appeal & Peer-to-Peer Motivation 00:14:08 Bitcoin's Revolutionary Monetary Model 00:15:45 Staying in Crypto: Problems to Solve 00:17:19 Bitcoin as Digital Gold & Smart Contracts 00:21:29 Ethereum vs. Bitcoin: Contractual Capabilities 00:23:02 Ergo's Approach: Contracts & Protocol Upgrades 00:26:56 Namecoin's History & Technical Innovations 00:31:10 Merged Mining & Sidechain Politics 00:34:35 Early Bitcoin Contributions & BTC Scala Client 00:38:49 Conference Presentations & ZeroJoin 00:41:49 Demurrage, Storage Rent, and Bitcoin Upgrades 00:45:01 NFTs, Inscriptions, and Bitcoin Community Divisions 00:50:10 Hard Forks, Immutability, and Ethereum Classic 00:55:17 Markets, Transaction Fees, and Bitcoin's Security Budget 00:57:59 Lightning Network Limitations & Off-Chain Cash 01:01:58 Challenging Bitcoin's Scaling & Off-Chain Solutions 01:06:38 Ergo's Protocol Design & Civil War Lessons 01:08:25 Ergo's Innovations for Bitcoin 01:15:38 Quantum Resistance & Hard Fork Challenges 01:19:51 Consensus Cleanup & Upgrade Difficulties 01:23:10 Community Proposals & Development Gridlock 01:25:07 Alex's Tech Stack & Personal Devices 01:31:07 Satoshi's Identity & Coding Style 01:38:34 NXT, Bitcoin 2.0, and Ethereum's Success 01:45:35 Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake 01:50:44 Philosophy of Proof of Work & Fair Distribution 01:53:09 VCs, Token Dumps, and Proof of Work Revival 01:54:16 Proof of Stake Attacks & Network Resilience 01:59:20 Ergo's Network Parameters & Smart Contracts 02:21:17 Privacy Features: Mixers & Stealth Addresses 02:28:40 Monetary Policy, Emission, and Pre-mine 02:34:09 Monero vs. Zcash: Community & Funding 02:48:03 Bridging Blockchains & Rosen Bridge 02:51:04 Peer-to-Peer Finance & Smart Contract Design 02:53:57 Future Vision: Interconnected PoW Blockchains 02:56:41 Double Merged Mining Sidechains 03:17:45 Community Resources & Getting Involved 03:20:11 Conclusion & Final Thoughts

From an unenforced TikTok ban and a chatbot calling itself MechaHitler to mounting fears that we're in an AI bubble, 2025 was another messy year for the tech industry. We watched billionaire CEOs fully align themselves with President Trump, Nvidia become the first $5 trillion company, and Elon Musk's popularity tank, thanks to his DOGE antics (and yet he could still become the world's first trillionaire).  Kara breaks down the biggest tech stories of 2025 with four journalists: Bill Cohan, a longtime financial journalist, author, and Puck co-founder who covers Wall Street; Casey Newton, founder and editor of the tech newsletter Platformer and host of The New York Times podcast “Hard Fork”; Joanna Stern, senior personal technology columnist for The Wall Street Journal and author of a forthcoming book about how she surrendered her life to A.I. for a year; and Charlie Warzel, staff writer at The Atlantic and host of the tech and culture podcast “Galaxy Brain.”  (Please note, this conversation was recorded before news broke that TikTok had signed a deal to spin off its U.S. business to a group of American investors, the Justice Department released a trove of documents tied to investigations into Jeffrey Epstein, and Waymo halted service in San Francisco because of power outages in the area.)  Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find us on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week I'm the guest and my friends at Whiskey Web and Whatnot are the hosts. And they're great hosts, because they send their guests a bottle of whiskey before talking web and whatnot...As we head into the holidays I hope you'll raise a glass with us and enjoy this very laid back episode... Chuck and Robbie hosted me a year ago and I love that they got me on tape when they did, because it was just as I was starting to consider making some big changes to my show... Changes that I will announce in late January... so get excited for that! and please subscribe to this here podcsat in your favorite apps, and get the newsletter at crafted.fmHere's how they described the episode:Robbie and Chuck talk with Dan Blumberg about his journey from radio producer to product manager and podcaster. They explore the art of building great software, podcasting essentials, and the changing landscape of podcast platforms. Plus, Dan shares his kayaking adventures and insights on balancing authenticity and growth.And if you please…Subscribe to the CRAFTED. newsletter atcrafted.fmShare with a friend! Word of mouth is by far the most powerful way for podcasts to growSponsor the show? I'm actively speaking to potential sponsors for 2026 episodes. Drop me a line and let's talk.Get psyched!… There are some big updates to this show coming soonFor more on Whiskey Web and Whatnot...Check ou:t https://whiskey.fmConnect with Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerConnect with Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd In this episode:- (00:00) - Intro- (03:26) - Whiskey review and rating: Woodinville Straight Bourbon- (09:23) - Apple Podcasts vs Spotify- (11:20) - Spotify video vs YouTube- (13:02) - Podcasting audio vs video- (15:24) - Advice on starting a podcast- (19:24) - Equipment requirements for guests on podcasts- (22:15) - Having a pre-interview interview- (26:06) - Social media and podcasting challenges- (27:37) - How to grow your audience- (33:18) - How to make money as a podcaster- (37:28) - Being yourself vs having a persona- (38:42) - Monetizing your podcast- (42:11) - What's missing from RSS- (43:38) - Dan's non-tech career ideas- (45:40) - Podcast recommendations- (49:12) - Dan's plugsLinks- Woodinville Straight Bourbon: https://woodinvillewhiskeyco.com/- Crafted: https://crafted.fm- WNYC: https://www.wnyc.org/- NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/- Spotify: https://www.spotify.com/- Pocket Casts: https://pocketcasts.com/- IAB: https://www.iab.com/- National Geographic: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/- Shure SM7B: https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm7b- Focusrite: https://focusrite.com/- Shure MV7: https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/mv7- Elgato: https://www.elgato.com/- AirPods: https://www.apple.com/airpods/- Audio Technica: https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/- Morning Edition: https://www.wnyc.org/shows/me- Chicago Public Radio: https://www.wbez.org/- Riverside: https://riverside.fm/- TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/- Mr. Beast: https://youtube.com/@mrbeast- Docker: https://www.docker.com/- Artium: https://www.thisisartium.com/- Jay Clouse: https://creatorscience.com/- Hark: https://harkaudio.com/- Syntax: https://syntax.fm/- Hard Fork: https://www.nytimes.com/column/hard-fork- Big Technology with Alex Kantrowitz: https://www.bigtechnology.com/- Decoder with Nilay Patel: https://www.theverge.com/decoder- How I Built This: https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this- Acquired: https://www.acquired.fm/- Smartless: https://smartless.com/- Wondery: https://wondery.com/- Sacha Baron Cohen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen- Tim Burton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Burton- Beetlejuice: https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/beetlejuice- Darknet Diaries: https://darknetdiaries.com/

Abdel is one of the most prolific developers in the Zero Knowledge space. Since our conversation in September, he was able to accomplish so much that he requested another interview to talk about it. So what happened with ZK STARKs that is so important? Time stamps: 00:01:04 Podcast Introduction & Sponsor Acknowledgments 00:02:15 Vlad's Rant on Bitcoin Media & Podcast Landscape 00:03:24 Bitcoin Takeover Podcast Mission & Seven-Year Anniversary 00:04:39 Transition to Abdel's Updates & ZK-STARKS 00:05:44 Abdel's Zcash & Bitcoin Proposals 00:07:00 Comparing Bitcoin and Zcash Community Reactions 00:08:36 Altcoins as Experimentation Grounds 00:11:23 Scaling, Rollups, and Drivechains 00:13:10 Abdel's Proposal for Native STARK Verification 00:17:19 Zcash's TDE and Layer 2 Possibilities 00:19:22 ZK-Rollups, Privacy, and Regulatory Pressures 00:21:02 Government Surveillance & KYC Concerns 00:24:26 Cultural Stigma Around Bitcoin Privacy 00:25:34 Zcash's SEC Presentation & Institutional Acceptance 00:28:58 Debate on Privacy, Transparency, and Backdoors 00:30:00 Bitcoin's Social Layer & Governance 00:32:47 Critique of Bitcoin Perfectionism & Altcoin Dismissal 00:35:49 Bitcoin's Mission: P2P Cash vs. Store of Value 00:36:49 Learning from Ethereum & Second-Layer Innovations 00:37:24 Sponsor Plugs & BTCfi Introduction 00:40:14 BTCfi: Bitcoin Staking & Yield Mechanisms 00:46:15 Bridging BTC to StarkNet & Atomic Swaps 00:48:36 BTCfi: KYC, Permissionless DeFi, and Institutional Offerings 00:50:59 DeFi Risks & Bitcoin Staking Security 00:51:40 ZK-STARK Verifiers on Bitcoin Cash 00:53:10 Bitcoin Cash, Zcash, and Social Layer Value 00:58:54 Bitcoin Cash's Technical Innovations & Community Dynamics 01:00:04 Quantum Resistance: Investor Fears & Satoshi's Coins 01:02:29 Quantum Threat Timeline & Migration Planning 01:10:25 Quantum-Resistant Signatures & Scalability Trade-offs 01:11:20 Hard Fork vs. Soft Fork for Quantum Resistance 01:13:08 Consensus, Confiscation Proposals, and Social Risks 01:17:56 Stagnation in Bitcoin Development & Altcoin Innovation 01:23:12 Ethereum's Role in Crypto Ecosystem 01:25:24 Zcash's Dual Incentives & Institutional Recognition 01:28:08 Zcash's Future: Innovation vs. Ossification 01:30:39 Sponsor Plugs: Noones & SideShift 01:33:42 Quantum Resistance Migration: Hard Fork Efficiency 01:37:11 Bitcoin's Future: Security, Consensus, and Upgrades 01:43:09 Bull Markets, Technological Breakthroughs, and Lightning 01:45:18 Lightning's Shift to B2B & Retail Challenges 01:47:02 Bitcoin Treasury Companies & Business Models 01:49:18 Seinfeld Analogy & Bitcoin's Societal Impact 01:52:11 Magic Wand: Abdel's One Change for Bitcoin 01:54:03 Legitimate Altcoins & Project Criteria 01:57:16 Monero, Kaspa, Litecoin, and Altcoin Usefulness 02:02:06 ZK-STARKs: Complementary or Standard? 02:06:21 ZK-STARKs for Fast Bitcoin Syncing 02:10:27 Call for Wallet Integration & User Experience 02:14:08 Bull Bitcoin Wallet & Open Source Security 02:22:02 Freedom Tech, Nostr, and ZK for Sovereignty 02:26:02 ZK-STARKs: Career Opportunities & Verification 02:28:41 Outro & Listener Easter Egg

This week, Australia implemented the most aggressive social media ban in a democracy to date, kicking children under 16 off 10 of the most popular social platforms. We discuss how the platforms lost the argument around child safety and whether others will follow Australia's lead. Then, the blogger Andy Masley joins us to separate fact from fiction on the topic of A.I. water use. Is it a distraction from other more pressing environmental concerns? And finally, our first-ever “Hard Fork” Wrapped: We break down our favorite “Hard Fork” stats from 2025 and bring you up to date on three of our biggest stories of the year. Guests:Andy Masley, blogger The Weird Turn Pro Additional Reading: A Grand Social Media Experiment Begins in AustraliaThe A.I. water issue is fakeWhy Is Everyone So Wrong About A.I. Water Use?Trump Signs Executive Order to Neuter State A.I. LawsTrump Clears Sale of More Powerful Nvidia A.I. Chips to ChinaWe Asked Roblox's C.E.O. About Child Safety. It Got Tense. We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

It's A.I. model rollout season in Silicon Valley, and OpenAI appears to be feeling the pressure. Sam Altman, the chief executive of OpenAI, sent a memo to staff on Monday declaring a “code red” effort to improve ChatGPT and delay other initiatives. We explain why the latest frontier models from Google and Anthropic have OpenAI spooked and how the company is reshuffling priorities to respond. Then, we give our honest thoughts on which A.I models we like best and share how we're using A.I. in our day-to-day lives. And finally, we take a look at some of the most popular A.I.-generated content on the internet this week in our latest installment of the Hard Fork Review of Slop.Additional Reading: What OpenAI Did When ChatGPT Users Lost Touch With RealityGoogle Unveils Gemini 3, With Improved Coding and Search AbilitiesTourists Tricked by Fake Royal Christmas MarketDeepfake of North Carolina lawmaker used in award-winning Whirlpool video We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Last year we debuted Hard Fork's 100 Most Iconic Technologies list, in which we ranked the technologies from across all of history that best define life as we know it. To our surprise, it became one of our most popular episodes ever. So now we're doing it again — with a twist. All year, we've been collecting ideas for the 50 Most Iconic Technologies of 2025, and this week we present them to you, along with our case for why each entry played an important part in defining this year, for better or worse. Additional Reading: Check out last year's list: Hard Fork's 100 Most Iconic Technologies Meet the Artist Who Bedazzled Naomi Osaka's Labubus We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

The DoF crew break down everything: from Ubisoft's endless identity crisis to Unity and Epic's unexpected “Make the Metaverse Great Again” alliance.We get into Roblox CEO David Baszucki's tense appearance on Hard Fork, the baffling randomness of The Game Awards nominations, Saudi Arabia's PIF liquidity challenges, and why Turkey's red-hot gaming scene may finally be overheating.Plus: a disagreement for Nordic tax schemes and a dispatch from Helsinki's Slush Conference, home of the world's most optimistic founders in a country with no economic growth.00:00 Welcome01:52 Slush Conference Insights05:06 Tax Benefits for Expats in Europe08:29 Shills09:24 Ubisoft and Tencent Deal12:28 Epic Games and Unity Partnership18:30 Roblox CEO's Podcast Appearance30:11 Game Awards Nominationss32:19 Most Anticipated Games Discussion34:23 Controversial Mobile Game Nominations39:22 Saudi Arabia's Gaming Investments47:12 Turkey's Booming Gaming Ecosystem54:43 Steam Machines and Market Challenges01:01:51 Concluding Thoughts and Thanksgiving Wishes

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Gemini Pro 3 and Nano Banana Pro push Google into the lead in the race for AGI. Meanwhile, OpenAI isn't far behind with GPT-5.1 Pro & Codex Max. The AI news is relentless! Nano Banana Pro's ability to make infographics and edit images is nearly unprecedented and, combined with Gemini 3's analytical abilities, makes us feel all tingly inside. Web design, vibe coded games, there is so much cool stuff to get into. Plus, OpenAI's updates GPT-5.1 and a cool new tool from Meta called Segment Anything 3. And, of course, who could forget the cutest lil robots. No terminators today folks! TIME TO NANO BANANA OURSELVES INTO OBLIVION. WAIT, THAT SOUNDED BAD. Come to our Discord: https://discord.gg/muD2TYgC8f Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/AIForHumansShow AI For Humans Newsletter: https://aiforhumans.beehiiv.com/ Follow us for more on X @AIForHumansShow Join our TikTok @aiforhumansshow Show Links Google Nano Banana Pro https://blog.google/technology/ai/nano-banana-pro/ Gavin's Futurama-style Image https://x.com/gavinpurcell/status/1991525928049230170?s=20 14 Inputs on Nano Banana Pro Image https://x.com/nickfloats/status/1991531506397741156 Sims Expansion Packs https://x.com/sinanhelv/status/1991530277974253871 Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean) in Total Recall https://x.com/TomLikesRobots/status/1991548219428663586 Gemini 3 Pro https://youtu.be/98DcoXwGX6I?si=Fwd83wo5vRHPb78d https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/#note-from-ceo Demis Hassabis Talks About Trajectory on Hard Fork https://x.com/slow_developer/status/1990998467611705344?s=20 Crazy Gemini 3 Pro benchmarks https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1990813077172822143?s=20 Google AntiGravity  https://x.com/antigravity/status/1990813606217236828?s=20 3js interactive webdesign https://x.com/EHuanglu/status/1990967259775570262?s=20 Huge improvements on DesignArena benchmark: https://x.com/grx_xce/status/1990815340893245481?s=20 Replit's new tool for webdesign powered by Gemini 3.0 https://x.com/amasad/status/1990859423942893816?s=20 Gavin's quick website test https://gemini.google.com/share/a1e8d50a3d69 Bouncing Ball Test https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1990819310072443340?s=20 Voxel Art https://x.com/goodfellow_ian/status/1990839056331337797?s=20 Demis Recreates ThemePark https://x.com/demishassabis/status/1990818894177513831?s=20 Playables on YouTube:  https://x.com/GoogleDeepMind/status/1991192012691808472?s=20 Updating My Bear Jump Game https://x.com/gavinpurcell/status/1990832098131763340?s=20 OpenAI: GPT-5.1 Codex MAX https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1991212955250327768?s=20 https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-1-codex-max/ GPT 5.1 Pro https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1991266192905179613?s=20 Matt Shumer GPT-5.1 Pro Review https://x.com/mattshumer_/status/1991263717820948651?s=20 Meta Segment Anything 3 Playground  https://aidemos.meta.com/segment-anything Sunday Robotic's Memo Robot https://www.sunday.ai/ Gemini 3 Pro 3D Lego Editor https://x.com/skirano/status/1990813093727789486?s=20 Realistic Water Test From MattVideoPro https://x.com/MattVidPro/status/1990880204760252834?s=20 Power Plant Recreation https://x.com/sebkrier/status/1990814567820058641?s=20 Sourcey: Open Source Robot https://x.com/sourccey/status/1990903761187828199  

This week, Gov. Gavin Newsom of California signed a big package of A.I. and social media bills into law — including the first state law in the United States to regulate A.I. companions. We talk through what stood out to us in the package and whether these protections will work. Then, the subpoena that has the whole tech world talking. Nathan Calvin, general counsel at Encode, an A.I. safety advocacy group that has been critical of OpenAI, talks with us about why he thinks the company is investigating him. And finally, grab your opera glasses. It's time for the first edition of The Hard Fork Review of Slop.Guests:Nathan Calvin, vice president of state affairs and general counsel at EncodeAdditional Reading:California Regulates A.I. CompanionsOpenAI Thinks Its Critics Are Funded by Billionaires. Now It's Going After Them.We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

This is Casey Newton, founder and editor of Platformer and cohost of the Hard Fork podcast. This is the second episode of my productivity-focused Decoder series I'm doing while Nilay is out on parental leave. Today, I'm talking with Notion cofounder and CEO Ivan Zhao. I've followed Notion for quite some time now — I'm a big fan, and I use Notion as part of my workflow with Platformer. So I was very excited to get Ivan on the show to discuss his philosophy on productivity, how he's grown his company over the last decade, and where he sees the space going in the future.  Links:  Introducing Notion AI for Work | Notion Notion Mail is a minimalist but powerful take on email | Verge Notion's new Q&A feature lets you ask an AI about your notes | Verge Notion takes on AI notetakers with its own transcription feature | TechCrunch The impossible dream of good workplace software | Decoder When AI has better taste than you | Julie Zhuo / The Looking Glass Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, OpenAI released its much-anticipated flagship model, GPT-5. We break down what we know about the upgrade, drawing from our initial testing and a special news briefing with Sam Altman. Then, we explain why we were underwhelmed by Amazon's new Alexa+, which is powered by generative A.I., and take our feedback to Daniel Rausch, vice president of Alexa and Echo, who helps us understand why powering Alexa with L.L.M. capabilities is a major computer science challenge.Guests:Daniel Rausch, Amazon vice president of Echo and AlexaAdditional reading:OpenAI Aims to Stay Ahead of Rivals With New GPT-5 TechnologyAmazon Unveils Alexa+, Powered by Generative A.I.We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok.Also, you can still get a special-edition “Hard Fork” hat! For a limited time, you'll receive one when you purchase an annual New York Times Audio subscription for the first time (U.S. only). Go to nytimes.com/hardforkhat. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

This is Casey Newton, founder and editor of the Platformer newsletter and cohost of the Hard Fork podcast. I'll be guest hosting the next few episodes of Decoder while Nilay is out on parental leave. For the next three weeks, I'll be talking to leaders in the productivity space about what they're building, and how they can help us get things done.  My guest today: Michael Truell, the CEO of Anysphere, the maker of automated programming platform Cursor AI. I sat down with Michael to talk about his product and how it works, why coding with AI has seen such incredible adoption, and what the future of automated programming really looks like.  Read the full transcript on The Verge. Links:  Anysphere, hailed as fastest growing startup ever, raises $900 Million | Bloomberg AI coding assistant Cursor draws a million users without even trying | Bloomberg Anthropic rehires AI leaders from Anysphere | The Information Cursor apologizes for unclear pricing changes that upset users | TechCrunch OpenAI looked at buying Cursor creator before turning to rival Windsurf | CNBC Interview with Anysphere CEO Michael Truell about coding with AI | Stratechery Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, we look at the fallout from a sweeping internet age-verification law that went into effect in Britain. We explain why age restrictions are suddenly popping up all over the internet — and how some might create more problems than they solve. Then Matthew Prince, chief executive of Cloudflare, returns to the show to discuss his company's new plan to help publishers fight back against A.I. scrapers and potentially to create a new online marketplace for quality content in the process. Finally, we round up some headlines from around the tech world in the latest round of HatGPT.Guests:Matthew Prince, chief executive of CloudflareAdditional Reading:Supreme Court Upholds Texas Law Limiting Access to PornographyThe U.K.'s age gates are coming to AmericaCloudflare Introduces Default Blocking of A.I. Data ScrapersAlso, you can still get a special-edition “Hard Fork” hat! For a limited time, you'll receive one when you purchase an annual New York Times Audio subscription for the first time. Go to nytimes.com/hardforkhat.We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

On Wednesday, President Trump signed three A.I.-related executive orders, and the White House released “America's A.I. Action Plan.” We break down what's in them, how the federal government intends to target “political bias” in chatbot output, and whether anyone will stand up against it. Then, do we hype up A.I. too much? Are we downplaying potential harms? We reached out to several prominent researchers and writers and asked for their critiques about how we cover A.I. For a limited time, you can get a special-edition “Hard Fork” hat when you purchase an annual New York Times Audio subscription for the first time. Get your hat at nytimes.com/hardforkhatGuests:Brian Merchant, author of the book and newsletter “Blood in the Machine”Alison Gopnik, professor at the University of California, BerkeleyRoss Douthat, New York Times opinion columnist and host of the podcast “Interesting Times”Claire Leibowicz, head of A.I. and media integrity at the Partnership on AIMax Read, author of the newsletter “Read Max”Additional Reading:Trump Plans to Give A.I. Developers a Free HandThe Chatbot Culture Wars Are Here We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok.  Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

This week, we tick through the many dramatic headlines surrounding xAI, including the departure of X's chief executive, Linda Yaccarino; the Grok chatbot spewing antisemitic comments; and the A.I. companion Ani engaging in sexually explicit role-play. Then, we explain why a fight to acquire the start-up Windsurf startled many in Silicon Valley and may reshape the culture in many of the big A.I. labs. And finally, it's “crypto week.” David Yaffe-Bellany explains how crypto provisions in the bills before Congress and the president could affect even people who don't hold digital currencies.Also, we officially have merch! For a limited time, you can get a special-edition “Hard Fork” hat when you purchase an annual New York Times Audio subscription for the first time. Get your hat at nytimes.com/hardforkhatGuests:David Yaffe-Bellany, New York Times technology reporter covering the crypto industryAdditional Reading:Elon Musk's Grok Chatbot Shares Antisemitic Posts on XGoogle Hires A.I. Leaders From a Start-Up Courted by OpenAICognition AI Buys Windsurf as A.I. Frenzy Escalates‘Crypto Week' Is Back on Track After House G.O.P. Quells Conservative RevoltThe ‘Trump Pump': How Crypto Lobbying Won Over a President We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

We're back with part two of Hard Fork Live (see last week's episode for part one). This week, Patrick Collison, Stripe's chief executive, joins us onstage for a wide-ranging conversation about how Silicon Valley could unleash greater progress, from building new housing to curing diseases, and why he believes prestige television is a waste of time. Then, after a quick costume change, Kathryn Zealand, the chief executive of Skip, joins us to talk about her company's robot pants. We test them out live on a StairMaster. Finally, we end the show by taking questions from audience members.Guests:Patrick Collison, Co-founder and C.E.O. of StripeKathryn Zealand, Founder and C.E.O. of Skip We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.