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The reception to our recent post on Code Reviews has been strong. Catch up!Amid a maelstrom of discussion on whether or not AI is killing SaaS, one of the top publicly listed SaaS companies in the world has just reported record revenues, clearing well over $1.1B in ARR for the first time with a 28% margin. As we comment on the pod, Aaron Levie is the rare public company CEO equally at home in both worlds of Silicon Valley and Wall Street/Main Street, by day helping 70% of the Fortune 500 with their Enterprise Advanced Suite, and yet by night is often found in the basements of early startups and tweeting viral insights about the future of agents.Now that both Cursor, Cloudflare, Perplexity, Anthropic and more have made Filesystems and Sandboxes and various forms of “Just Give the Agent a Box” cool (not just cool; it is now one of the single hottest areas in AI infrastructure growing 100% MoM), we find it a delightfully appropriate time to do the episode with the OG CEO who has been giving humans and computers Boxes since he was a college dropout pitching VCs at a Michael Arrington house party.Enjoy our special pod, with fan favorite returning guest/guest cohost Jeff Huber!Note: We didn't directly discuss the AI vs SaaS debate - Aaron has done many, many, many other podcasts on that, and you should read his definitive essay on it. Most commentators do not understand SaaS businesses because they have never scaled one themselves, and deeply reflected on what the true value proposition of SaaS is.We also discuss Your Company is a Filesystem:We also shoutout CTO Ben Kus' and the AI team, who talked about the technical architecture and will return for AIE WF 2026.Full Video EpisodeTimestamps* 00:00 Adapting Work for Agents* 01:29 Why Every Agent Needs a Box* 04:38 Agent Governance and Identity* 11:28 Why Coding Agents Took Off First* 21:42 Context Engineering and Search Limits* 31:29 Inside Agent Evals* 33:23 Industries and Datasets* 35:22 Building the Agent Team* 38:50 Read Write Agent Workflows* 41:54 Docs Graphs and Founder Mode* 55:38 Token FOMO Culture* 56:31 Production Function Secrets* 01:01:08 Film Roots to Box* 01:03:38 AI Future of Movies* 01:06:47 Media DevRel and EngineeringTranscriptAdapting Work for AgentsAaron Levie: Like you don't write code, you talk to an agent and it goes and does it for you, and you may be at best review it. That's even probably like, like largely not even what you're doing. What's happening is we are changing our work to make the agents effective. In that model, the agent didn't really adapt to how we work.We basically adapted to how the agent works. All of the economy has to go through that exact same evolution. Right now, it's a huge asset and an advantage for the teams that do it early and that are kinda wired into doing this ‘cause you'll see compounding returns. But that's just gonna take a while for most companies to actually go and get this deployed.swyx: Welcome to the Lane Space Pod. We're back in the chroma studio with uh, chroma, CEO, Jeff Hoover. Welcome returning guest now guest host.Aaron Levie: It's a pleasure. Wow. How'd you get upgraded to, uh, to that?swyx: Because he's like the perfect guy to be guest those for you.Aaron Levie: That makes sense actually, for We love context. We, we both really love context le we really do.We really do.swyx: Uh, and we're here with, uh, Aaron Levy. Welcome.Aaron Levie: Thank you. Good to, uh, good to be [00:01:00] here.swyx: Uh, yeah. So we've all met offline and like chatted a little bit, but like, it's always nice to get these things in person and conversation. Yeah. You just started off with so much energy. You're, you're super excited about agents.I loveAaron Levie: agents.swyx: Yeah. Open claw. Just got by, got bought by OpenAI. No, not bought, but you know, you know what I mean?Aaron Levie: Some, some, you know, acquihire. Executiveswyx: hire.Aaron Levie: Executive hire. Okay. Executive hire. Say,swyx: hey, that's my term. Okay. Um, what are you pounding the table on on agents? You have so many insightful tweets.Why Every Agent Needs a BoxAaron Levie: Well, the thing that, that we get super excited by that I think is probably, you know, should be relatively obvious is we've, we've built a platform to help enterprises manage their files and their, their corporate files and the permissions of who has access to those files and the sharing collaboration of those files.All of those files contain really, really important information for the enterprise. It might have your contracts, it might have your research materials, it might have marketing information, it might have your memos. All that data obviously has, you know, predominantly been used by humans. [00:02:00] But there's been one really interesting problem, which is that, you know, humans only really work with their files during an active engagement with them, and they kind of go away and you don't really see them for a long time.And all of a sudden, uh, with the power of AI and AI agents, all of that data becomes extremely relevant as this ongoing source of, of answers to new questions of data that will transform into, into something else that, that produces value in your organization. It, it contains the answer to the new employee that's onboarding, that needs to ramp up on a project.Um, it contains the answer to the right thing to sell a customer when you're having a conversation to them, with them contains the roadmap information that's gonna produce the next feature. So all that data. That previously we've been just sort of storing and, and you know, occasionally forgetting about, ‘cause we're only working on the new active stuff.All of that information becomes valuable to the enterprise and it's gonna become extremely valuable to end users because now they can have agents go find what they're looking for and produce new, new [00:03:00] value and new data on that information. And it's gonna become incredibly valuable to agents because agents can roam around and do a bunch of work and they're gonna need access to that data as well.And um, and you know, sometimes that will be an agent that is sort of working on behalf of, of, of you and, and effectively as you as and, and they are kind of accessing all of the same information that you have access to and, and operating as you in the system. And then sometimes there's gonna be agents that are just.Effectively autonomous and kind of run on their own and, and you're gonna collaborate and work with them kind of like you did another person. Open Claw being the most recent and maybe first real sort of, you know, kind of, you know, up updating everybody's, you know, views of this landscape version of, of what that could look like, which is, okay, I have an agent.It's on its own system, it's on its own computer, it has access to its own tools. I probably don't give it access to my entire life. I probably communicate with it like I would an assistant or a colleague and then it, it sort of has this sandbox environment. So all of that has massive implications for a platform that manage that [00:04:00] enterprise data.We think it's gonna just transform how we work with all of the enterprise content that we work with, and we just have to make sure we're building the right platform to support that.swyx: The sort of shorthand I put it is as people build agents, everybody's just realizing that every agent needs a box. Yes.And it's nice to be called box and just give everyone a box.Aaron Levie: Hey, I if I, you know, if we can make that go viral, uh, like I, I think that that terminology, I, that's theswyx: tagline. Every agentAaron Levie: needs a box. Every agent needs a box. If we can make that the headline of this, I'm fine with this. And that's the billboard I wanna like Yeah, exactly.Every agent needs a box. Um, I like it. Can we ship this? Like,swyx: okay, let's do it. Yeah.Aaron Levie: Uh, my work here is done and I got the value I needed outta this podcast Drinks.swyx: Yeah.Agent Governance and IdentityAaron Levie: But, but, um, but, but, you know, so the thing that we, we kind of think about is, um, is, you know, whether you think the number 10 x or a hundred x or whatever the number is, we're gonna have some order of magnitude more agents than people.That's inevitable. It has to happen. So then the question is, what is the infrastructure that's needed to make all those agents effective in the enterprise? Make sure that they are well governed. Make sure they're only doing [00:05:00] safe things on your information. Make sure that they're not getting exposed. The data that they shouldn't have access to.There's gonna be just incredibly spectacularly crazy security incidents that will happen with agents because you'll prompt, inject an agent and sort of find your way through the CRM system and pull out data that you shouldn't have access to. Oh, weJeff Huber: have God,Aaron Levie: right? I mean, that's just gonna happen all over the place, right?So, so then the thing is, is how do you make sure you have the right security, the permissions, the access controls, the data governance. Um, we actually don't yet exactly know in many cases how we're gonna regulate some of these agents, right? If you think about an agent in financial services, does it have the exact same financial sort of, uh, requirements that a human did?Or is it, is the risk fully on the human that was interacting or created the agent? All open questions, but no matter what, there's gonna need to be a layer that manages the, the data they have access to, the workflows that they're involved in, pulling up data from multiple systems. This is the new infrastructure opportunity in the era of agents.swyx: You have a piece on agent identities, [00:06:00] which I think was today, um, which I think a lot of breaking news, the security, security people are talking about, right? Like you basically, I, I always think of this as like, well you need the human you and then there you need the agent. YouAaron Levie: Yes.swyx: And uh, well, I don't know if it's that simple, but is box going to have an opinion on that or you're just gonna be like, well we're just the sort of the, the source layer.Yeah. Let's Okta of zero handle that.Aaron Levie: I think we're gonna have an opinion and we will work with generally wherever the contours of the market end up. Um, and the reason that we're gonna have an opinion more than other topics probably is because one of the biggest use cases for why your agent might need it, an identity is for file system access.So thus we have to kind of think about this pretty deeply. And I think, uh, unless you're like in our world thinking about this particular problem all day long, it might be, you know, like, why is this such a big deal? And the reason why it's a really big deal is because sometimes sort of say, well just give the agent an, an account on the system and it just treats, treat it like every other type of user on the system.The [00:07:00] problem is, is that I as Aaron don't really have any responsibility over anybody else's box account in our organization. I can't see the box account of any other employee that I work with. I am not liable for anything that they do. And they have, I have, I have, you know, strict privacy requirements on everything that they're able to, you know, that, that, that they work on.Agents don't have that, you know, don't have those properties. The person who creates the agent probably is gonna, for the foreseeable future, take on a lot of the liability of what that agent does. That agent doesn't deserve any privacy because, because it's, you know, it can't fully be autonomously operated and it doesn't have any legal, you know, kind of, you know, responsibility.So thus you can't just be like, oh, well I'll just create a bunch of accounts and then I'll, I'll kind of work with that agent and I'll talk to it occasionally. Like you need oversight of that. And so then the question is, how do you have a world where the agent, sometimes you have oversight of, but what if that agent goes and works with other people?That person over there is collaborating with the agent on something you shouldn't have [00:08:00] access to what they're doing. So we have all of these new boundaries that we're gonna have to figure out of, of, you know, it's really, really easy. So far we've been in, in easy mode. We've hit the easy button with ai, which is the agent just is you.And when you're in quad code and you're in cursor, and you're in Codex, you're just, the agent is you. You're offing into your services. It can do everything you can do. That's the easy mode. The hard mode is agents are kind of running on their own. People check in with them occasionally, they're doing things autonomously.How do you give them access to resources in the enterprise and not dramatically increased the security risk and the risk that you might expose the wrong thing to somebody. These are all the new problems that we have to get solved. I like the identity layer and, and identity vendors as being a solution to that, but we'll, we'll need some opinions as well because so many of the use cases are these collaborative file system use cases, which is how do I give it an agent, a subset of my data?Give it its own workspace as well. ‘cause it's gonna need to store off its own information that would be relevant for it. And how do I have the right oversight into that? [00:09:00]Jeff Huber: One thing, which, um, I think is kind interesting, think about is that you know, how humans work, right? Like I may not also just like give you access to the whole file.I might like sit next to you and like scroll to this like one part of the file and just show you that like one part and like, you know,swyx: partial file access.Jeff Huber: I'm just saying I think like our, like RA does seem to be dead, right? Like you wanna say something is dead uhhuh probably RA is dead. And uh, like the auth story to me seems like incredibly unsolved and unaddressed by like the existing state of like AI vendors.ButAaron Levie: yeah, I think, um, we're, I mean you're taking obviously really to level limit that we probably need to solve for. Yeah. And we built an access control system that was, was kind of like, you know, its own little world for, for a long time. And um, and the idea was this, it's a many to many collaboration system where I can give you any part of the file system.And it's a waterfall model. So if I give you higher up in the, in the, in the system, you get everything below. And that, that kind of created immense flexibility because I can kind of point you to any layer in the, in the tree, but then you're gonna get access to everything kind of below it. And that [00:10:00] mostly is, is working in this, in this world.But you do have to manage this issue, which is how do I create an agent that has access to some of my stuff and somebody else's stuff as well. Mm-hmm. And which parts do I get to look at as the creator of the agent? And, and these are just brand new problems? Yeah. Crazy. And humans, when there was a human there that was really easy to do.Like, like if the three of us were all sharing, there'd be a Venn diagram where we'd have an overlapping set of things we've shared, but then we'd have our own ways that we shared with each other. In an agent world, somebody needs to take responsibility for what that agent has access to and what they're working on.These are like the, some of the most probably, you know, boring problems for 98% of people on, on the internet, but they will be the problems that are the difference between can you actually have autonomous agents in an enterprise contextswyx: Yeah.Aaron Levie: That are not leaking your data constantly.swyx: No. Like, I mean, you know, I run a very, very small company for my conference and like we already have data sensitivity issues.Yes. And some of my team members cannot see Yes. Uh, the others and like, I can't imagine what it's like to run a Fortune 500 and like, you have to [00:11:00] worry about this. I'm just kinda curious, like you, you talked to a lot like, like 70, 80% of your cus uh, of the Fortune 500, your customers.Aaron Levie: Yep. 67%. Just so we're being verySEswyx: precise.So Yeah. I'm notAaron Levie: Okay. Okay.swyx: Something I'm rounding up. Yes. Round up. I'm projecting to, forAaron Levie: the government.swyx: I'm projecting to the end of the year.Aaron Levie: Okay.swyx: There you go.Aaron Levie: You do make it sound like, like we, we, well we've gotta be on this. Like we're, we're taking way too long to get to 80%. Well,swyx: no, I mean, so like. How are they approaching it?Right? Because you're, you don't have a, you don't have a final answer yet.Why Coding Agents Took Off FirstAaron Levie: Well, okay, so, so this is actually, this is the stark reality that like, unfortunately is the kinda like pouring the water on the party a little bit.swyx: Yes.Aaron Levie: We all in Silicon Valley are like, have the absolute best conditions possible for AI ever.And I think we all saw the dke, you know, kind of Dario podcast and this idea of AI coding. Why is that taken off? And, and we're not yet fully seeing it everywhere else. Well, look, if you just like enumerated the list of properties that AI coding has and then compared it to other [00:12:00] knowledge work, let's just, let's just go through a few of them.Generally speaking, you bring on a new engineer, they have access to a large swath of the code base. Like, there's like very, like you, just, like new engineer comes on, they can just go and find the, the, the stuff that they, they need to work with. It's a fully text in text out. Medium. It's only, it's just gonna be text at the end of the day.So it's like really great from a, from just a, uh, you know, kinda what the agent can work with. Obviously the models are super trained on that dataset. The labs themselves have a really strong, kind of self-reinforcing positive flywheel of why they need to do, you know, agent coding deeply. So then you get just better tooling, better services.The actual developers of the AI are daily users of the, of the thing that they're we're working on versus like the, you know, probably there's only like seven Claude Cowork legal plugin users at Anthropic any given day, but there's like a couple thousand Claude code and you know, users every single day.So just like, think about which one are they getting more feedback on. All day long. So you just go through this list. You have a, you know, everybody who's a [00:13:00] developer by definition is technical so they can go install the latest thing. We're all generally online, or at least, you know, kinda the weird ones are, and we're all talking to each other, sharing best practices, like that's like already eight differences.Versus the rest of the economy. Every other part of the economy has like, like six to seven headwinds relative to that list. You go into a company, you're a banker in financial services, you have access to like a, a tiny little subset of the total data that's gonna be relevant to do your job. And you're have to start to go and talk to a bunch of people to get the right data to do your job because Sally didn't add you to that deal room, you know, folder.And that that, you know, the information is actually in a completely different organization that you now have to go in and, and sort of run into. And it's like you have this endless list of access controls and security. As, as you talked about, you have a medium, which is not, it's not just text, right? You have, you have a zoom call that, that you're getting all of the requirements from the customer.You have a lot of in-person conversations and you're doing in-person sales and like how do you ever [00:14:00] digitize all of that information? Um, you know, I think a lot of people got upset with this idea that the code base has all the context, um, that I don't know if you follow, you know, did you follow some of that conversation that that went viral?Is like, you know, it's not that simple that, that the code base doesn't have all the knowledge, but like it's a lot, you're a lot better off than you are with other areas of knowledge work. Like you, we like, we like have documentation practices, you write specifications. Those things don't exist for like 80% of work that happens in the enterprise.That's the divide that we have, which is, which is AI coding has, has just fully, you know, where we've reached escape velocity of how powerful this stuff is, and then we're gonna have to find a way to bring that same energy and momentum, but to all these other areas of knowledge work. Where the tools aren't there, the data's not set up to be there.The access controls don't make it that easy. The context engineering is an incredibly hard problem because again, you have access control challenges, you have different data formats. You have end users that are gonna need to kind of be kind of trained through this as opposed to their adopting [00:15:00] these tools in their free time.That's where the Fortune 500 is. And so we, I think, you know, have to be prepared as an industry where we are gonna be on a multi-year march to, to be able to bring agents to the enterprise for these workflows. And I think probably the, the thing that we've learned most in coding that, that the rest of the world is not yet, I think ready for, I mean, we're, they'll, they'll have to be ready for it because it's just gonna inevitably happen is I think in coding.What, what's interesting is if you think about the practice of coding today versus two years ago. It's probably the most changed workflow in maybe the history of time from the amount of time it's changed, right? Yeah. Like, like has any, has any workflow in the entire economy changed that quickly in terms of the amount of change?I just, you know, at least in any knowledge worker workflow, there's like very rarely been an event where one piece of technology and work practice has so fundamentally, you know, changed, changed what you do. Like you don't write code, you talk to an agent and it goes and [00:16:00] does it for you, and you may be at best review it.And even that's even probably like, like largely not even what you're doing. What's happening is we are changing our work to make the agents effective. In that model, the agent didn't really adapt to how we work. We basically adapted to how the agent works. Mm-hmm. All of the economy has to go through that exact same evolution.The rest of the economy is gonna have to update its workflows to make agents effective. And to give agents the context that they need and to actually figure out what kind of prompting works and to figure out how do you ensure that the agent has the right access to information to be able to execute on its work.I, you know, this is not the panacea that people were hoping for, of the agent drops in, just automates your life. Like you have to basically re-engineer your workflow to get the most out of agents and, uh, and that, that's just gonna take, you know, multiple years across the economy. Right now it's a huge asset and an advantage for the teams that do it early and that are kinda wired into doing this.‘cause [00:17:00] you'll see compounding returns, but that's just gonna take a while for most companies to actually go and get this deployed.swyx: I love, I love pushing back. I think that. That is what a lot of technology consultants love to hear this sort of thing, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. First to, to embrace the ai. Yes. To get to the promised land, you must pay me so much money to a hundred percent to adopt the prescribed way of, uh, conforming to the agents.Yes. And I worry that you will be eclipsed by someone else who says, no, come as you are.Aaron Levie: Yeah.swyx: And we'll meet you where you are.Aaron Levie: And, and, and and what was the thing that went viral a week ago? OpenAI probably, uh, is hiring F Dees. Yeah. Uh, to go into the enterprise. Yeah. Yeah. And then philanthropic is embedded at Goldman Sachs.Yeah. So if the labs are having to do this, if, if the labs have decided that they need to hire FDE and professional services, then I think that's a pretty clear indication that this, there's no easy mode of workflow transformation. Yeah. Yeah. So, so to your point, I think actually this is a market opportunity for, you know, new professional services and consulting [00:18:00] firms that are like Agent Build and they, and they kind of, you know, go into organizations and they figure out how to re-engineer your workflows to make them more agent ready and get your data into the right format and, you know, reconstruct your business process.So you're, you're not doing most of the work. You're telling agents how to do the work and then you're reviewing it. But I haven't seen the thing that can just drop in and, and kinda let you not go through those changes.swyx: I don't know how that kind of sales pitch goes over. Yeah. You know, you're, you're saying things like, well, in my sort of nice beautiful walled garden, here's, there's, uh, because here's this, here's this beautiful box account that has everything.Yes. And I'm like, well, most, most real life is extremely messy. Sure. And like, poorly named and there duplicate this outdated s**tAaron Levie: a hundred percent. And so No, no, a hundred percent. And so this is actually No. So, so this is, I mean, we agree that, that getting to the beautiful garden is gonna be tough.swyx: Yeah.Aaron Levie: There's also the other end of the spectrum where I, I just like, it's a technical impossibility to solve. The agent is, is truly cannot get enough context to make the right decision in, in the, in the incredibly messy land. Like there's [00:19:00] no a GI that will solve that. So, so we're gonna have to kind of land in somewhere in between, which is like we all collectively get better at.Documentation practices and, and having authoritative relatively up-to-date information and putting it in the right place like agents will, will certainly cause us to be much better organized around how we work with our information, simply because the severity of the agent pulling the wrong data will be too high and the productivity gain of that you'll miss out on by not doing this will be too high as well, that you, that your competition will just do it and they'll just have higher velocity.So, uh, and, and we, we see this a lot firsthand. So we, we build a series of agents internally that they can kind of have access to your full box account and go off and you give it a task and it can go find whatever information you're looking for and work with. And, you know, thank God for the model progress, but like, if, if you gave that task to an agent.Nine months ago, you're just gonna get lots of bogus answers because it's gonna, it's gonna say, Hey, here's, here are fi [00:20:00] five, you know, documents that all kind of smell like the right thing. And I'm gonna, but I, but you're, you're putting me on the clock. ‘cause my assistant prompt says like, you know, be pretty smart, but also try and respond to the user and it's gonna respond.And it's like, ah, it got the wrong document. And then you do that once or twice as a knowledge worker and you're just neverswyx: again,Aaron Levie: never again. You're just like done with the system.swyx: Yeah. It doesn't work.Aaron Levie: It doesn't work. And so, you know, Opus four six and Gemini three one Pro and you know, whatever the latest five 3G BT will be, like, those things are getting better and better and it's using better judgment.And this sort of like the, all of these updates to the agentic tool and search systems are, are, we're seeing, we're seeing very real progress where the agent. Kind of can, can almost smell some things a little bit fishy when it's getting, you know, we, we have this process where we, we have it go fan out, do a bunch of searches, pull up a bunch of data, and then it has to sort of do its own ranking of, you know, what are the right documents that, that it should be working with.And again, like, you know, the intelligence level of a model six months ago, [00:21:00] it'd be just throwing a dart at like, I'm just, I'm gonna grab these seven files and I, I pray, I hope that that's the right answer. And something like an opus first four five, and now four six is like, oh, it's like, no, that one doesn't seem right relative to this question because I'm seeing some signal that is making that, you know, that's contradicting the document where it would normally be in the tree and who should have access.Like it's doing all of that kind of work for you. But like, it still doesn't work if you just have a total wasteland of data. Like, it's just not, it's just not possible. Partly ‘cause a human wouldn't even be able to do it. So basically if a, if a really, really smart human. Could not do that task in five or 10 minutes for a search retrieval type task.Look, you know, your agent's not gonna be able to do it any better. You see this all day long. SoContext Engineering and Search Limitsswyx: this touches on a thing that just passionate about it was just context engineering. I, I'm just gonna let you ramble or riff on, on context engineering. If, if, if there's anything like he, he did really good work on context fraud, which has really taken over as like the term that people use and the referenceAaron Levie: a hundred percent.We, we all we think about is, is the context rob problem. [00:22:00]Jeff Huber: Yeah, there's certainly a lot of like ranking considerations. Gentech surgery think is incredibly promising. Um, yeah, I was trying to generate a question though. I think I have a question right now. Swyx.Aaron Levie: Yeah, no, but like, like I think there was this moment, um, you know, like, I don't know, two years ago before, before we knew like where the, the gotchas were gonna be in ai and I think someone was like, was like, well, infinite context windows will just solve all of these problems and ‘cause you'll just, you'll just give the context window like all the data and.It's just like, okay, I mean, maybe in 2035, like this is a viable solution. First of all, it, it would just, it would just simply cost too much. Like we just can't give the model like the 5,000 documents that might be relevant and it's gonna read them all. And I've seen enough to, to start believing in crazy stuff.So like, I'm willing to just say, sure. Like in, in 10 years from now,swyx: never say, never, never.Aaron Levie: In, in 10 years from now, we'll have infinite context windows at, at a thousandth of the price of today. Like, let's just like believe that that's possible, but Right. We're in reality today. So today we have a context engineering [00:23:00] problem, which is, I got, I got, you know, 200,000 tokens that I can work with, or prob, I don't even know what the latest graph is before, like massive degradation.16. Okay. I have 60,000 tokens that I get to work with where I'm gonna get accurate information. That's not a lot of tokens for a corpus of 10 million documents that a knowledge worker might have across all of the teams and all the projects and all the people they work with. I have, I have 10 million documents.Which, you know, maybe is times five pages per document or something like that. I'm at 50 million pages of information and I have 60,000 tokens. Like, holy s**t. Yeah. This is like, how do I bridge the 50 million pages of information with, you know, the couple hundred that I get to work with in that, in that token window.Yeah. This is like, this is like such an interesting problem and that's why actually so much work is actually like, just like search systems and the databases and that layer has to just get so locked in, but models getting better and importantly [00:24:00] knowing when they've done a search, they found the wrong thing, they go back, they check their work, they, they find a way to balance sort of appeasing the user versus double checking.We have this one, we have this one test case where we ask the agent to go find. 10 pieces of information.swyx: Is this the complex work eval?Aaron Levie: Uh, this is actually not in the eval. This is, this is sort of just like we have a bunch of different, we have a bunch of internal benchmark kind of scenarios. Every time we, we update our agent, we have one, which is, I ask it to find all of our office addresses, and I give it the list of 10 offices that we have.And there's not one document that has this, maybe there should be, that would be a great example of the kind of thing that like maybe over time companies start to, you know, have these sort of like, what are the canonical, you know, kind of key areas of knowledge that we need to have. We don't seem to have this one document that says, here are all of our offices.We have a bunch of documents that have like, here's the New York office and whatever. So you task this agent and you, you get, you say, I need the addresses for these 10 offices. Okay. And by the way, if you do this on any, you know, [00:25:00] public chat model, the same outcome is gonna happen. But for a different kind of query, you give it, you say, I need these 10 addresses.How many times should the agent go and do its search before it decides whether or not, there's just no answer to this question. Often, and especially the, the, let's say lower tier models, it'll come back and it'll give you six of the 10 addresses. And it'll, and I'll just say I couldn't find the otherswyx: four.It, it doesn't know what It doesn't know. ItAaron Levie: doesn't know what It doesn't know. Yeah. So the model is just like, like when should it stop? When should it stop doing? Like should it, should it do that task for literally an hour and just keep cranking through? Maybe I actually made up an office location and it doesn't know that I made it up and I didn't even know that I made it up.Like, should it just keep, re should it read every single file in your entire box account until it, until it should exhaust every single piece of information.swyx: Expensive.Aaron Levie: These are the new problems that we have. So, you know, something like, let's say a new opus model is sort of like, okay, I'm gonna try these types of queries.I didn't get exactly what I wanted. I'm gonna try again. I'm gonna, at [00:26:00] some point I'm gonna stop searching. ‘cause I've determined that that no amount of searching is gonna solve this problem. I'm just not able to do it. And that judgment is like a really new thing that the model needs to be able to have.It's like, when should it give up on a task? ‘cause, ‘cause you just don't, it's a can't find the thing. That's the real world of knowledge, work problems. And this is the stuff that the coding agents don't have to deal with. Because they, it just doesn't like, like you're not usually asking it about, you're, you're always creating net new information coming right outta the model for the most part.Obviously it has to know about your code base and your specs and your documentation, but, but when you deploy an agent on all of your data that now you have all of these new problems that you're dealing withJeff Huber: our, uh, follow follow-up research to context ride is actually on a genetic search. Ah. Um, and we've like right, sort of stress tested like frontier models and their ability to search.Um, and they're not actually that good at searching. Right. Uh, so you're sort of highlighting this like explore, exploit.swyx: You're just say, Debbie, Donna say everything doesn't work. Like,Aaron Levie: well,Jeff Huber: somebody has to be,Aaron Levie: um, can I just throw out one more thing? Yeah. That is different from coding and, and the rest [00:27:00] of the knowledge work that I, I failed to mention.So one other kind of key point is, is that, you know, at the end of the day. Whether you believe we're in a slop apocalypse or, or whatever. At the end of the day, if you, if you build a working product at the end of, if you, if you've built a working solution that is ultimately what the customer is paying for, like whether I have a lot of slop, a little slop or whatever, I'm sure there's lots of code bases we could go into in enterprise software companies where it's like just crazy slop that humans did over a 20 year period, but the end customer just gets this little interface.They can, they can type into it, it does its thing. Knowledge work, uh, doesn't have that property. If I have an AI model, go generate a contract and I generate a contract 20 times and, you know, all 20 times it's just 3% different and like that I, that, that kind of lop introduces all new kinds of risk for my organization that the code version of that LOP didn't, didn't introduce.These are, and so like, so how do you constrain these models to just the part that you want [00:28:00] them to work on and just do the thing that you want them to do? And, and, you know, in engineering, we don't, you can't be disbarred as an engineer, but you could be disbarred as a lawyer. Like you can do the wrong medical thing In healthcare, you, there's no, there's no equivalent to that of engineering.Like, doswyx: you want there to be, because I've considered softwareJeff Huber: engineer. What's that? Civil engineering there is, right? NotAaron Levie: software civil engineer. Sure. Oh yeah, for sure. But like in any of our companies, you like, you know, you'll be forgiven if you took down the site and, and we, we will do a rollback and you'll, you'll be in a meeting, but you have not been disbarred as an engineer.We don't, we don't change your, you know, your computer science, uh, blameJeff Huber: degree, this postmortem.Aaron Levie: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, so, uh, now maybe we collectively as an industry need to figure out like, what are you liable for? Not legally, but like in a, in a management sense, uh, of these agents. All sorts of interesting problems that, that, that, uh, that have to come out.But in knowledge work, that's the real hostile environments that we're operating in. Hmm.swyx: I do think like, uh, a lot of the last year's, 2025 story was the rise of coding agents and I think [00:29:00] 2026 story is definitely knowledge work agents. Yes. A hundredAaron Levie: percent.swyx: Right. Like that would, and I think open claw core work are just the beginning.Yes. Like it's, the next one's gonna just gonna be absolute craziness.Aaron Levie: It it is. And, and, uh, and it's gonna be, I mean, again, like this is gonna be this, this wave where we, we are gonna try and bring as many of the practices from coding because that, that will clearly be the forefront, which is tell an agent to go do something and has an access to a set of resources.You need to be responsible for reviewing it at the end of the process. That to me is the, is the kind of template that I just think goes across knowledge, work and odd. Cowork is a great example. Open Closet's a great example. You can kind of, sort of see what Codex could become over time. These are some, some really interesting kind of platforms that are emerging.swyx: Okay. Um, I wanted to, we touched on evals a little bit. You had, you had the report that you're gonna go bring up and then I was gonna go into like, uh, boxes, evals, but uh, go ahead. Talk about your genetic search thing.Jeff Huber: Yeah. Mostly I think kinda a few of the insights. It's like number one frontier model is not good at search.Humans have this [00:30:00] natural explore, exploit trade off where we kinda understand like when to stop doing something. Also, humans are pretty good at like forgetting actually, and like pruning their own context, whereas agents are not, and actually an agent in their kind of context history, if they knew something was bad and they even, you could see in the trace the reason you trace, Hey, that probably wasn't a good idea.If it's still in the trace, still in the context, they'll still do it again. Uhhuh. Uh, and so like, I think pruning is also gonna be like, really, it's already becoming a thing, right? But like, letting self prune the con windowsswyx: be a big deal. Yeah. So, so don't leave the mistake. Don't leave the mistake in there.Cut out the mistake but tell it that you made a mistake in the past and so it doesn't repeat it.Jeff Huber: Yeah. But like cut it out so it doesn't get like distracted by it again. ‘cause really, you know, what is so, so it will repeat its mistake just because it's been, it's inswyx: theJeff Huber: context. It'sAaron Levie: in the context so much.That's a few shot example. Even if it, yeah.Jeff Huber: It's like oh thisAaron Levie: is a great thing to go try even ifJeff Huber: it didn't work.Aaron Levie: Yeah,Jeff Huber: exactly.Aaron Levie: SoJeff Huber: there's like a bunch of stuff there. JustAaron Levie: Groundhogs Day inside these models. Yeah. I'm gonna go keep doing the same wrongJeff Huber: thing. Covering sense. I feel like, you know, some creator analogy you're trying like fit a manifold in latent space, which kind is doing break program synthesis, which is kinda one we think about we're doing right.Like, you know, certain [00:31:00] facts might be like sort of overly pitting it. There are certain, you know, sec sectors of latent space and so like plug clean space. Yeah. And, uh, andswyx: so we have a bell, our editor as a bell every time you say that. SoJeff Huber: you have, you have to like remove those, likeswyx: you shoulda a gong like TPN or something.IfJeff Huber: we gong, you either remove those links to like kinda give it the freedom, kind of do what you need to do. So, but yeah. We'll, we'll release more soon. That'sAaron Levie: awesome.Jeff Huber: That'll, that'll be cool.swyx: We're a cerebral podcast that people listen to us and, and sort of think really deep. So yeah, we try to keep it subtle.Okay. We try to keep it.Aaron Levie: Okay, fine.Inside Agent Evalsswyx: Um, you, you guys do, you guys do have EVs, you talked about your, your office thing, but, uh, you've been also promoting APEX agents and complex work. Uh, yeah, whatever you, wherever you wanna take this just Yeah. How youAaron Levie: Apex is, is obviously me, core's, uh, uh, kind of, um, agent eval.We, we supported that by sort of. Opening up some data for them around how we kind of see these, um, data workspaces in, in the, you know, kind of regular economy. So how do lawyers have a workspace? How do investment bankers have a workspace? What kind of data goes into those? And so we, [00:32:00] we partner with them on their, their apex eval.Our own, um, eval is, it's actually relatively straightforward. We have a, a set of, of documents in a, in a range of industries. We give the agent previously did this as a one shot test of just purely the model. And then we just realized we, we need to, based on where everything's going, it's just gotta be more agentic.So now it's a bit more of a test of both our harness and the model. And we have a rubric of a set of things that has to get right and we score it. Um, and you're just seeing, you know, these incredible jumps in almost every single model in its own family of, you know, opus four, um, you know, sonnet four six versus sonnet four five.swyx: Yeah. We have this up on screen.Aaron Levie: Okay, cool. So some, you're seeing it somewhere like. I, I forget the to, it was like 15 point jump, I think on the main, on the overall,swyx: yes.Aaron Levie: And it's just like, you know, these incredible leaps that, that are starting to happen. Um,swyx: and OP doesn't know any, like any, it's completely held out from op.Aaron Levie: This is not in any, there's no public data which has, you know, Ben benefits and this is just a private eval that we [00:33:00] do, and then we just happen to show it to, to the world. Hmm. So you can't, you can't train against it. And I think it's just as representative of. It's obviously reasoning capabilities, what it's doing at, at, you know, kind of test time, compute capabilities, thinking levels, all like the context rot issues.So many interesting, you know, kind of, uh, uh, capabilities that are, that are now improvingswyx: one sector that you have. That's interesting.Industries and Datasetsswyx: Uh, people are roughly familiar with healthcare and legal, but you have public sector in there.Aaron Levie: Yeah.swyx: Uh, what's that? Like, what, what, what is that?Aaron Levie: Yeah, and, and we actually test against, I dunno, maybe 10 industries.We, we end up usually just cutting a few that we think have interesting gains. All extras, won a lot of like government type documents. Um,swyx: what is that? What is it? Government type documents?Aaron Levie: Government filings. Like a taxswyx: return, likeAaron Levie: a probably not tax returns. It would be more of what would go the government be using, uh, as data.So, okay. Um, so think about research that, that type of, of, of data sets. And then we have financial services for things like data rooms and what would be in an investment prospectus. Uhhuh,swyx: that one you can dog food.Aaron Levie: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yes. Yes. [00:34:00] So, uh, so we, we run the models, um, in now, you know, more of an agent mode, but, but still with, with kinda limited capacity and just try and see like on a, like, for like basis, what are the improvements?And, and again, we just continue to be blown away by. How, how good these models are getting.swyx: Yeah, I mean, I think every serious AI company needs something like that where like, well, this is the work we do. Here's our company eval. Yeah. And if you don't have it, well, you're not a serious AI company.Aaron Levie: There's two dimensions, right?So there's, there's like, how are the models improving? And so which models should you either recommend a customer use, which one should you adopt? But then every single day, we're making changes to our agents. And you need to knowswyx: if you regressed,Aaron Levie: if you know. Yeah. You know, I've been fully convinced that the whole agent observability and eval space is gonna be a massive space.Um, super excited for what Braintrust is doing, excited for, you know, Lang Smith, all the things. And I think what you're going to, I mean, this is like every enter like literally every enterprise right now. It's like the AI companies are the customers of these tools. Every enterprise will have this. Yeah, you'll just [00:35:00] have to have an eval.Of all of your work and like, we'll, you'll have an eval of your RFP generation, you'll have an eval of your sales material creation. You'll have an eval of your, uh, invoice processing. And, and as you, you know, buy or use new agentic systems, you are gonna need to know like, what's the quality of your, of your pipeline.swyx: Yeah.Aaron Levie: Um, so huge, huge market with agent evals.swyx: Yeah.Building the Agent Teamswyx: And, and you know, I'm gonna shout out your, your team a bit, uh, your CTO, Ben, uh, did a great talk with us last year. Awesome. And he's gonna come back again. Oh, cool. For World's Fair.Aaron Levie: Yep.swyx: Just talk about your team, like brag a little bit. I think I, I think people take these eval numbers in pretty charts for granted, but No, there, I mean, there's, there's lots of really smart people at work during all this.Aaron Levie: Biggest shout out, uh, is we have a, we have a couple folks at Dya, uh, Sidarth, uh, that, that kind of run this. They're like a, you know, kind of tag tag team duo on our evals, Ben, our CTO, heavily involved Yasha, head of ai, uh, you know, a bunch of folks. And, um, evals is one part of the story. And then just like the full, you know, kind of AI.An agent team [00:36:00] is, uh, is a, is a pretty, you know, is core to this whole effort. So there's probably, I don't know, like maybe a few dozen people that are like the epicenter. And then you just have like layers and layers of, of kind of concentric circles of okay, then there's a search team that supports them and an infrastructure team that supports them.And it's starting to ripple through the entire company. But there's that kind of core agent team, um, that's a pretty, pretty close, uh, close knit group.swyx: The search team is separate from the infra team.Aaron Levie: I mean, we have like every, every layer of the stack we have to kind of do, except for just pure public cloud.Um, but um, you know, we, we store, I don't even know what our public numbers are in, you know, but like, you can just think about it as like a lot of data is, is stored in box. And so we have, and you have every layer of the, of the stack of, you know, how do you manage the data, the file system, the metadata system, the search system, just all of those components.And then they all are having to understand that now you've got this new customer. Which is the agent, and they've been building for two types of customers in the past. They've been building for users and they've been building for like applications. [00:37:00] And now you've got this new agent user, and it comes in with a difference of it, of property sometimes, like, hey, maybe sometimes we should do embeddings, an embedding based, you know, kind of search versus, you know, your, your typical semantic search.Like, it's just like you have to build the, the capabilities to support all of this. And we're testing stuff, throwing things away, something doesn't work and, and not relevant. It's like just, you know, total chaos. But all of those teams are supporting the agent team that is kind of coming up with its requirements of what, what do we need?swyx: Yeah. No, uh, we just came from, uh, fireside chat where you did, and you, you talked about how you're doing this. It's, it's kind of like an internal startup. Yeah. Within the broader company. The broader company's like 3000 people. Yeah. But you know, there's, there's a, this is a core team of like, well, here's the innovation center.Aaron Levie: Yeah.swyx: And like that every company kind of is run this way.Aaron Levie: Yeah. I wanna be sensitive. I don't call it the innovation center. Yeah. Only because I think everybody has to do innovation. Um, there, there's a part of the, the, the company that is, is sort of do or die for the agent wave.swyx: Yeah.Aaron Levie: And it only happens to be more of my focus simply because it's existential that [00:38:00] we get it right.swyx: Yeah.Aaron Levie: All of the supporting systems are necessary. All of the surrounding adjacent capabilities are necessary. Like the only reason we get to be a platform where you'd run an agent is because we have a security feature or a compliance feature, or a governance feature that, that some team is working on.But that's not gonna be the make or break of, of whether we get agents right. Like that already exists and we need to keep innovating there. I don't know what the right, exact precise number is, but it's not a thousand people and it's not 10 people. There's a number of people that are like the, the kind of like, you know, startup within the company that are the make or break on everything related to AI agents, you know, leveraging our platform and letting you work with your data.And that's where I spend a lot of my time, and Ben and Yosh and Diego and Teri, you know, these are just, you know, people that, that, you know, kind of across the team. Are working.swyx: Yeah. Amazing.Read Write Agent WorkflowsJeff Huber: How do you, how do you think about, I mean, you talked a lot about like kinda read workflows over your box data. Yep.Right. You know, gen search questions, queries, et cetera. But like, what about like, write or like authoring workflows?Aaron Levie: Yes. I've [00:39:00] already probably revealed too much actually now that I think about it. So, um, I've talked about whatever,Jeff Huber: whatever you can.Aaron Levie: Okay. It's just us. It's just us. Yeah. Okay. Of course, of course.So I, I guess I would just, uh, I'll make it a little bit conceptual, uh, because again, I've already, I've already said things that are not even ga but, but we've, we've kinda like danced around it publicly, so I, yeah, yeah. Okay. Just like, hopefully nobody watches this, um, episode. No.swyx: It's tidbits for the Heidi engaged to go figure out like what exactly, um, you know, is, is your sort of line of thinking.Sure. They can connect the dots.Aaron Levie: Yeah. So, so I would say that, that, uh, we, you know, as a, as a place where you have your enterprise content, there's a use case where I want to, you know, have an agent read that data and answer questions for me. And then there's a use case where I want the agent to create something.And use the file system to create something or store off data that it's working on, or be able to have, you know, various files that it's writing to about the work it's doing. So we do see it as a total read write. The harder problem has so far been the read only because, because again, you have that kind of like 10 [00:40:00] million to one ratio problem, whereas rights are a lot of, that's just gonna come from the model and, and we just like, we'll just put it in the file system and kinda use it.So it's a little bit of a technically easier problem, but the only part that's like, not necessarily technically hard, it is just like it's not yet perfected in the state of the ecosystem is, you know, building a beautiful PowerPoint presentation. It's still a hard problem for these models. Like, like we still, you know, like, like these formats are just, we're not built for.They'reswyx: working on it.Aaron Levie: They're, they're working on it. Everybody's working on it.swyx: Every launch is like, well, we do PowerPoint now.Aaron Levie: We're getting, yeah, getting a lot, getting a lot of better each time. But then you'll do this thing where you'll ask the update one slide and all of a sudden, like the fonts will be just like a little bit different, you know, on two of the slides, or it moved, you know, some shape over to the left a little bit.And again, these are the kind of things that, like in code, obviously you could really care about if you really care about, you know, how beautiful is the code, but at the end, user doesn't notice all those problems and file creation, the end user instantly sees it. You're [00:41:00] like, ah, like paragraph three, like, you literally just changed the font on me.Like it's a totally different font and like midway through the document. Mm-hmm. Those are the kind of things that you run into a lot of in the, in the content creation side. So, mm-hmm. We are gonna have native agents. That do all of those things, they'll be powered by the leading kind of models and labs.But the thing that I think is, is probably gonna be a much bigger idea over time is any agent on any system, again, using Box as a file system for its work, and in that kind of scenario, we don't necessarily care what it's putting in the file system. It could put its memory files, it could put its, you know, specification, you know, documents.It could put, you know, whatever its markdown files are, or it could, you know, generate PDFs. It's just like, it's a workspace that is, is sort of sandboxed off for its work. People can collaborate into it, it can share with other people. And, and so we, we were thinking a lot about what's the right, you know, kind of way to, to deliver that at scale.Docs Graphs and Founder Modeswyx: I wanted to come into sort of the sort of AI transformation or AI sort of, uh, operations things. [00:42:00] Um, one of the tweets that you, that you wanted to talk about, this is just me going through your tweets, by the way. Oh, okay. I mean, like, this is, you readAaron Levie: one by one,swyx: you're the, you're the easiest guest to prep for because you, you already have like, this is the, this is what I'm interested in.I'm like, okay, well, areAaron Levie: we gonna get to like, like February, January or something? Where are we in the, in the timelines? How far back are we going?swyx: Can you, can you describe boxes? A set of skills? Right? Like that, that's like, that's like one of the extremes of like, well if you, you just turn everything into a markdown file.Yeah. Then your agent can run your company. Uh, like you just have to write, find the right sequence of words toAaron Levie: Yes.swyx: To do it.Aaron Levie: Sorry, isthatswyx: the question? So I think the question is like, what if we documented everything? Yes. The way that you exactly said like,Aaron Levie: yes.swyx: Um, let's get all the Fortune five hundreds, uh, prepared for agents.Yes. And like, you know, everything's in golden and, and nicely filed away and everything. Yes. What's missing? Like, what's left, right? LikeAaron Levie: Yeah.swyx: You've, you've run your company for a decade. LikeAaron Levie: Yeah. I think the challenge is that, that that information changes a week later. And because something happened in the market for that [00:43:00] customer, or us as a company that now has to go get updated, and so these systems are living and breathing and they have to experience reality and updates to reality, which right now is probably gonna be humans, you know, kinda giving those, giving them the updates.And, you know, there is this piece about context graphs as as, uh, that kinda went very viral. Yeah. And I, I, I was like a, i, I, I thought it was super provocative. I agreed with many parts of it. I disagree with a few parts around. You know, it's not gonna be as easy as as just if we just had the agent traces, then we can finally do that work because there's just like, there's so much more other stuff that that's happening that, that we haven't been able to capture and digitize.And I think they actually represented that in the piece to be clear. But like there's just a lot of work, you know, that that has to, you just can't have only skills files, you know, for your company because it's just gonna be like, there's gonna be a lot of other stuff that happens. Yeah. Change over time.Yeah. Most companies are practically apprenticeships.swyx: Most companies are practically apprenticeships. LikeJeff Huber: every new employee who joins the team, [00:44:00] like you span one to three months. Like ramping them up.Aaron Levie: Yes. AllJeff Huber: that tat knowledgeAaron Levie: isJeff Huber: not written down.Aaron Levie: Yes.Jeff Huber: But like, it would have to be if you wanted to like give it to an Asian.Right. And so like that seems to me like to beAaron Levie: one is I think you're gonna see again a premium on companies that can document this. Mm-hmm. Much. There'll be a huge premium on that because, because you know, can you shorten that three month ramp cycle to a two week ramp cycle? That's an instant productivity gain.Can you re dramatically reduce rework in the organization because you've documented where all the stuff is and where the answers are. Can you make your average employee as good as your 90th percentile employee because you've captured the knowledge that's sort of in the heads of, of those top employees and make that available.So like you can see some very clear productivity benefits. Mm-hmm. If you had a company culture of making sure you know your information was captured, digitized, put in a format that was agent ready and then made available to agents to work with, and then you just, again, have this reality of like add a 10,000 person [00:45:00] company.Mapping that to the, you know, access structure of the company is just a hard problem. Is like, is like, yeah, well, you just, not every piece of information that's digitized can be shared to everybody. And so now you have to organize that in a way that actually works. There was a pretty good piece, um, this, this, uh, this piece called your company as a file is a file system.I, did you see that one?swyx: Nope.Aaron Levie: Uh, yes. You saw it. Yeah. And, and, uh, I actually be curious your thoughts on it. Um, like, like an interesting kind of like, we, we agree with it because, because that's how we see the world and, uh,swyx: okay. We, we have it up on screen. Oh,Aaron Levie: okay. Yeah. But, but it's all about basically like, you know, we've already, we, we, we already organized in this kind of like, you know, permission structure way.Uh, and, and these are the kind of, you know, natural ways that, that agents can now work with data. So it's kind of like this, this, you know, kind of interesting metaphor, but I do think companies will have to start to think about how they start to digitize more, more of that data. What was your take?Jeff Huber: Yeah, I mean, like the company's probably like an acid compliant file system.Aaron Levie: Uh,Jeff Huber: yeah. Which I'm guessing boxes, right? So, yeah. Yes.swyx: Yeah. [00:46:00]Jeff Huber: Which you have a great piece on, but,swyx: uh, yeah. Well, uh, I, I, my, my, my direction is a little bit like, I wanna rewind a little bit to the graph word you said that there, that's a magic trigger word for us. I always ask what's your take on knowledge graphs?Yeah. Uh, ‘cause every, especially at every data database person, I just wanna see what they think. There's been knowledge graphs, hype cycles, and you've seen it all. So.Aaron Levie: Hmm. I actually am not the expert in knowledge graphs, so, so that you might need toswyx: research, you don't need to be an expert. Yeah. I think it's just like, well, how, how seriously do people take it?Yeah. Like, is is, is there a lot of potential in the, in the HOVI?Aaron Levie: Uh, well, can I, can I, uh, understand first if it's, um, is this a loaded question in the sense of are you super pro, super con, super anti medium? Iswyx: see pro, I see pros and cons. Okay. Uh, but I, I think your opinion should be independent of mine.Aaron Levie: Yeah. No, no, totally. Yeah. I just want to see what I'm stepping into.swyx: No, I know. It's a, and it's a huge trigger word for a lot of people out Yeah. In our audience. And they're, they're trying to figure out why is that? Because whyAaron Levie: is this such aswyx: hot item for them? Because a lot of people get graph religion.And they're like, everything's a graph. Of course you have to represent it as a graph. Well, [00:47:00] how do you solve your knowledge? Um, changing over time? Well, it's a graph.Aaron Levie: Yeah.swyx: And, and I think there, there's that line of work and then there's, there's a lot of people who are like, well, you don't need it. And both are right.Aaron Levie: Yeah. And what do the people who say you don't need it, what are theyswyx: arguing for Mark down files. Oh, sure, sure. Simplicity.Aaron Levie: Yeah.swyx: Versus it's, it's structure versus less structure. Right. That's, that's all what it is. I do.Aaron Levie: I think the tricky thing is, um, is, is again, when this gets met with real humans, they're just going to their computer.They're just working with some people on Slack or teams. They're just sharing some data through a collaborative file system and Google Docs or Box or whatever. I certainly like the vision of most, most knowledge graph, you know, kind of futuristic kind of ways of thinking about it. Uh, it's just like, you know, it's 2026.We haven't seen it yet. Kind of play out as as, I mean, I remember. Do you remember the, um, in like, actually I don't, I don't even know how old you guys are, but I'll for, for to show my age. I remember 17 years ago, everybody thought enterprises would just run on [00:48:00] Wikis. Yeah. And, uh, confluence and, and not even, I mean, confluence actually took off for engineering for sure.Like unquestionably. But like, this was like everything would be in the w. And I think based on our, uh, our, uh, general style of, of, of what we were building, like we were just like, I don't know, people just like wanna workspace. They're gonna collaborate with other people.swyx: Exactly. Yeah. So you were, you were anti-knowledge graph.Aaron Levie: Not anti, not anti. Soswyx: not nonAaron Levie: I'm not, I'm not anti. ‘cause I think, I think your search system, I just think these are two systems that probably, but like, I'm, I'm not in any religious war. I don't want to be in anybody's YouTube comments on this. There's not a fight for me.swyx: We, we love YouTube comments. We're, we're, we're get into comments.Aaron Levie: Okay. Uh, but like, but I, I, it's mostly just a virtue of what we built. Yeah. And we just continued down that path. Yeah.swyx: Yeah.Aaron Levie: And, um, and that, that was what we pursued. But I'm not, this is not a, you know, kind of, this is not a, uh, it'sswyx: not existential for you. Great.Aaron Levie: We're happy to plug into somebody else's graph.We're happy to feed data into it. We're happy for [00:49:00] agents to, to talk to multiple systems. Not, not our fight.swyx: Yeah.Aaron Levie: But I need your answer. Yeah. Graphs or nerd Snipes is very effective nerd.swyx: See this is, this is one, one opinion and then I've,Jeff Huber: and I think that the actual graph structure is emergent in the mind of the agent.Ah, in the same way it is in the mind of the human. And that's a more powerful graph ‘cause it actually involved over time.swyx: So don't tell me how to graph. I'll, I'll figure it out myself. Exactly. Okay. All right. AndJeff Huber: what's yours?swyx: I like the, the Wiki approach. Uh, my, I'm actually

* கையெழுத்தானது திமுக - காங்கிரஸ் ஒப்பந்தம்?* மாநிலங்களவை: திமுக வேட்பாளர்கள் அறிவிப்பு.* 'ஃபினிஷ்' அந்த கை சைகையை நான் திட்டமிட்டு செய்யவில்லை.! - முதல்வர் ஸ்டாலின் விளக்கம். * காங்கிரஸ் வேட்பாளர் கிறிஸ்டோபர் திலக்!* விமானப் பணிப் பெண்ணுக்கு பாலியல் தொல்லை கொடுத்த தி.மு.க கவுன்சிலர்!* மாநிலங்களவை தேர்தலில் போட்டியிட தம்பிதுரை, அன்புமணி ஆகியோர் வேட்புமனு தாக்கல்?* எடப்பாடி பழனிசாமி முன்னிலையில் அதிமுகவில் இணைந்தார் நடிகை லதா!* சிவகங்கை: பட்டியலின கிராமத்திற்குள் புகுந்து தாக்குதல்?* முதல்வர் பதவியை ராஜினாமா செய்கிறார் நிதிஷ்குமார்... ஏன்? இந்தியாவிலிருந்து கிளம்பிய ஈரான் போர் கப்பலை அழித்த அமெரிக்கா? * தற்காப்பில் ஈடுபடுவதை தவிர வேறு வழியில்லை - ஈரான்* "அவரையும் அழிப்போம்" - இஸ்ரேல் அமைச்சர் இஸ்ரேல் கட்ஸ்!

Podcast Summary: Comprehensive Guide to Personal Injury Law with Karl LuthIn this episode of the El Paso Local Business Area podcast, host David sits down with Carl Luth of the Law Office of Karl Luth. The conversation serves as an essential "miniature education" for anyone in the El Paso area who has been injured and is considering hiring a personal injury lawyer. Luth breaks down the complexities of the legal process, the importance of immediate medical attention, and how his firm navigates the tactics used by insurance companies to ensure victims are "made whole."The "Golden Rule" of Post-Accident CareLuth emphasizes one critical piece of advice: Seek medical attention immediately. Many victims make the mistake of waiting because they feel "fine" due to the adrenaline of the moment.Documentation: Medical records from the ER or a hospital provide the necessary paper trail to prove that injuries—such as whiplash or internal soreness—are directly tied to the specific incident.Delayed Symptoms: Injuries often manifest days or even a week later. Without immediate documentation, insurance companies will argue that the injury is unrelated to the accident, significantly devaluing the claim.Navigating Insurance Tactics & Maximizing CompensationA major highlight of the discussion is why an advocate is necessary. Insurance companies are not in the business of paying out fair settlements; their goal is to pay as little as possible. Luth's firm uses the best practices for case management by building a robust "case file" that is difficult for insurers to ignore.The Expert Team: Luth's staff includes professionals with backgrounds in medical billing and the insurance industry. They understand "behind-the-scenes" procedures and how to read medical codes to justify the true value of an injury.Calculating Damages: Compensation isn't just about current bills. It factors in imaging (MRIs/CT scans), chiropractic care, physical therapy, and—crucially—future medical treatment required to manage long-term effects.Common Mistakes and MisconceptionsLuth identifies several errors that can hinder a case:Gaps in Treatment: Skipping physical therapy or chiropractor appointments gives insurance adjusters "room to argue" that the injury isn't severe.Uninsured Motorists: In El Paso, many drivers lack insurance. Luth clarifies that if you have "Uninsured Motorist" or "Personal Injury Protection" (PIP) on your own policy, you can still recover damages even if the other party is broke or uninsured.Fear of Premiums: Victims often avoid filing a claim on their own insurance because they fear a rate hike. Luth points out that if the other driver is already filing a claim, the incident is already on record; by not filing your own, you are simply denying yourself the benefits you already paid for.The Contingency Model: Zero Upfront CostFor those worried about the cost of a personal injury lawyer, Luth explains the "Letter of Protection" (LOP) system.Free Consultations: The firm provides information first, ensuring the client is well-informed before making a decision.No Out-of-Pocket Expenses: The firm covers all upfront costs for medical evaluations and imaging. They are paid only when the case is settled, meaning there is zero financial risk to the client to pursue what they deserve.Contact & Firm DetailsAttorney: Law Office of Karl Luth, PLLCAddress: 1790 North Lee Trevino, Suite 516, El Paso, TXPhone: 915-213-2025 (Available 24/7)Website: truthlaw.org

5.Mojžišova 17,14-20 14 Keď vojdeš do krajiny, ktorú ti dáva Hospodin, tvoj Boh, obsadíš ju a budeš v nej bývať, povieš si: ‚Ustanovím si nad sebou kráľa ako všetky okolité národy.‘ 15 Ustanov si teda nad sebou kráľa, ktorého si vyvolí Hospodin, tvoj Boh. Ustanov si nad sebou kráľa spomedzi svojich bratov. Nesmieš si ustanoviť nad sebou cudzinca, ktorý nie je tvojím bratom. 16 Nesmie mať mnoho koní. Nesmie vodiť ľud späť do Egypta, aby si obstaral viac koní, lebo Hospodin vám povedal: ‚Nikdy sa už nevracajte touto cestou!‘ 17 Nesmie mať mnoho žien, aby sa neodvrátilo jeho srdce, a nesmie mať mnoho striebra a zlata. 18 Keď zasadne na kráľovský trón, nech si odpíše do knihy tento zákon, ktorý opatrujú léviovskí kňazi. 19 Nech je uňho a nech si ho číta po všetky dni života, aby sa naučil báť sa Hospodina, svojho Boha, a zachovávať všetky slová tohto zákona a tieto ustanovenia. 20 Nech sa jeho srdce nepovyšuje nad jeho bratov a nech neodbočí od príkazu ani napravo, ani naľavo, aby on i jeho synovia dlho vládli vo svojom kráľovstve uprostred Izraela. Mocní pod vyššou Autoritou. Takto si Boh predstavuje kráľa Izraela „podľa Jeho srdca“! I najvyšší vládcovia sveta majú žiť s pokorou a podriadenosťou autorite Božieho zákona. Hovorí o tom, čo je v Jeho očiach dobré: kráľ nemá byť bez viery. Nemá hromadiť bohatstvo, oddávať sa prehnanému luxusu, či budovať veľké armády. Prvé miesto v jeho živote má patriť poznaniu Hospodina. Aj dnes túžime po vodcoch, ktorí nehľadajú len osobné výhody a moc, ale slúžia vyšším hodnotám a spravodlivosti. Skutoční lídri nemajú okázalosť, ale charakter. Každá autorita, či už politická alebo osobná, má svoje hranice a zodpovednosť. Skutočná veľkosť človeka nespočíva v množstve moci, ktorú má, ale v správnom spôsobe, akým ju používa. Dnes, v čase sociálnych sietí, kde môže každý z nás získať svoj okruh „poddaných“ v podobe sledovateľov, sú tieto slová aktuálnejšie, než kedykoľvek predtým. Tiež môžeme podľahnúť pokušeniu vyvyšovať sa, ukazovať svoj úspech a bohatstvo, naháňať si popularitu. Ale rovnako, ako dávny kráľ, aj my potrebujeme „čítať Zákon“ – pripomínať si hodnoty, ktoré nás presahujú, reflektovať svoje konanie a zostávať pokorní v každom postavení. „Kto sa však chváli, nech sa chváli tým, že je rozumný a pozná Mňa, lebo Ja som Hospodin.“ Modlitba: Bože, ďakujeme Ti, že kladieš dôraz na pokoru, lebo len ona vedie k dobrým vzťahom! Odpusť mi pýchu a vyvyšovanie sa! Zlom vo mne každú sebastrednosť, nech dokážem žiť v pokornej láske! Amen. Pieseň: ES 536 Autor: Tibor Jančík Hospodin chráni život Svojich verných a vytrháva ich z ruky bezbožných. Žalm 97,10 Cirkev mala pokoj v celom Judsku, Galilei a Samárii. Vnútorne i navonok rástla, žila v bázni pred Pánom a povzbudzovaná Svätým Duchom vzrastala počtom. Skutky apoštolov 9,31 Matúš 13,31-35 •  Modlíme sa za: Lopúchov (ŠZS) **Dnes nemôžem použiť nástroje podľa Tvojich pokynov. Odpoviem priamo na základe kontextu rozhovoru.** Otázky na rozjímanie: Ako dnes žijem pod vyššou Autoritu Božieho zákona, namiesto budovania osobnej moci a bohatstva? Čo pre mňa znamená čítať Božie slovo denne, aby som sa naučil bôž sa Hospodina a neodbočil napravo ani naľavo? Ako môžem dnes praktizovať pokoru v pozícii vplyvu – doma, v práci, na sociálnych sieťach – ako kráľ podľa Božieho srdca? Dnes som vďačný za tieto 3 veci: _________________________________ _________________________________ _________________________________ Viac o vďačnosti, čo to je, prečo je dôležité byť vďačný, ako praktizovať vďačnosť nájdeš na blogu

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Send us a textEp 311 Ron Jhun BEFORE the UFC Ron Jhun is Hawaii's only 50 fight club member and had over 40 bouts prior to competing in the UFC. Ron Jhun is an early pioneer and a legend among the Hawaiian MMA community; we share some funny insights and stories in this very hard to come by interview Ep 311 Ron Jhun BEFORE the UFC 0:00 MMA history podcast intro  0:32 Joey Venti's guest introduction 0:53 interview start 1:24 growing up with a boxing pedigree 2:53 training prior to first fight 4:35 learning Jiu jitsu from VHS tapes 5:18 training at Jesus is lord6:38 reason for David Pa'aluhi retiring 11:39 Ron Jhun vs Eddy Millis 17:01 Ron Jhun vs Eugene Jackson20:31 Ron Jhun vs Paul Cutts22:37 Ron Jhun vs James Zikic24:05 Relson Gracie pushback on the Island 27:21 Ron Jhun vs James Zikic (rematch)29:24 Ron Jhun vs Marco De Silva30:43 payout for tournament fights 33:04 winning Super Brawl 14 tournament 36:41 hearing about Scott Coker early on 37:18 running into John Hackleman 39:08 possible relations to KJ Noons 39:45 offered Yuki Sasaki bout in Japan 41:48 experience first time in Japan 43:50 Ron Jhun vs Yuki Sasaki46:43 interactions with the Yakuza 48:28 Ron Jhun vs Kim Mason51:11 Drug issues on the Island 53:10 Ron Jhun vs Erik Paulson59:12 relationship with Erik Paulson 1:02:21 Josh Barnett and Erik Paulson story 1:04:14 Ron Jhun vs Jason Von Flue1:05:42 promoting on the Underground forums 1:08:27 meeting Sean Shelby and Tom Brady 1:10:41 Ron Jhun vs JT Taylor1:12:08 Ron Jhun vs Brian Sleeman1:13:05 Ron Jhun vs Dave Strasser1:14:08 Ron Jhun vs Joe Stevenson1:15:31 Ron Jhun vs Pete Spratt1:17:33 WFA 20011:18:58 rolling with John Lewis 1:20:31 self promoting to Blue Belt 1:22:39 John Lewis current life 1:25:01 Ron Jhun current life 1:28:31 football in Hawaii 1:31:30 plugs/ promotions 1:32:12 experience with Cabbage Correira 1:33:44 Ron Jhun vs Jermaine Andre1:35:28 sponsored by Tapout 1:36:21 Ron Jhun vs Mandatorily Suda1:39:07 Ron Jhun vs Stephan Potvin1:40:00 Ron Jhun vs Shonie Carter1:41:03 Ron Jhun vs Dennis Hallman1:42:31 Ron Jhun vs Mike Penalber1:43:06 interview wrap up 1:44:48 outro/ closing thoughtsSubscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #fightpodcast Support the show

A look into the union of the Two Truths, absolute and relative: the two that are not two. How all appearances and phenomena and all beings are this union, in every instant. How mind of separation, dualistic consciousness, arises with the erroneous conceptualization of “self” or “selfness” in anything, including us…and how this is continuously generating samsara, the realms of wandering in suffering. How any fixation, identity formation and clinging, reactivity, defensiveness, or even slight tension is a sign and signal of this “self”-grasping. And how all of this is suffering—created by mind of separation. How our spiritual work is to love all and to know directly the true nature of being. There is no separation. Lama Barbara Du Bois, PhD, is a longtime teacher in the Tibetan wisdom stream of Buddhdharma, working with students in the United States and Europe. She has for many years been serving as Lopön (Master Dharma Teacher) for the Garchen Buddhist Institute, Western seat of His Eminence Garchen Rinpoche. She is known for her wisdom, clarity, joy, and humor—and for her fierce and tender love. Lama Barbara is the author of Light Years: A Spiritual Memoir; Brave, Generous, & Undefended: Heart Teachings on the 37 Bodhisattva Practices; and Original Innocence (forthcoming).

Send us a textEp 310 EliteXC The Run - Jared Shaw Following the huge buzz from Part 1(#308: "The Rise of EliteXC"), Jared returns for an unfiltered deep dive into the promotion's explosive two-year run that seriously challenged the UFC.Hear the insider stories: nearly signing Brock Lesnar post-K-1, flying Kimbo Slice to LA with a briefcase of cash to lock in MMA's first viral superstar (his43-second KO of Tank Abbott drew massive Showtime ratings), Gina Carano's breakthrough win over Tonya Evinger at Uprising in Hawaii (despite her tough weight cut), and the bold events that pushed women's MMA forward while building legitimacy with fighters like Robbie Lawler and Nick Diaz.Shaw opens up on the highs (CBS primetime deals bringing MMA to millions), the internal chaos, financial struggles, and the dramatic 2008 collapse after the Heat eventcontroversy. Plus, personal reflections like his life-changing open-heart surgery at 19.This is authentic MMA history straight from the VP who lived it-raw, revealing, and essential for any fight fan.Tune in tomorrow on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Subscribe and hit notifications so you don't miss it!0:00 MMA history podcast intro  0:32 Joey Venti's guest introduction 0:52 interview start 3:11 Bjorn Rebney reputation 4:53 talks of signing Brock Lesnar to Elite XC7:05 bad matchmaking for Brock Lesnar 9:14 open heart surgery at an early age 12:40 EliteXC Uprising in Honolulu13:37 importance of Rich Chou 16:37 TJay Thompson brought in by Rich Chou18:04 Patrick Freitas20:48 Matchmaking process 24:26 coming up with weight classes for event 27:18 Gina Carano struggling to make weight 27:52 revitalizing Robbie Lawler 29:33 contacting Icey Mike about Kimbo Slice 34:14 signing Kimbo Slice to Elite XC36:53 dealing with the California Athletic Commission40:26 Chuck Champion makes organization cuts 43:35 Mike Pyle refusing to fight for the title 47:19 Kimbo vs Bo Cantrell51:56 KJ Noons vs Nick Diaz 59:28 Nick Diaz importance for Elite XC 1:00:36 conversations with Dream FC1:02:54 conversations with Ken Shamrock1:04:04 Eddie Alvarez being a huge ticket seller 1:05:05 EliteXC Street Certified event 1:11:55 viewership for Street Certified event 1:14:06 dealings with Ken Pavia 1:15:18 dealings with Jeremy Lappen 1:21:29 Scott Smith improper matchmaking 1:23:19 interview wrap up/ sneak preview  1:26:19 outro/ closing thoughts  Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LyteSupport the show

Double Tap Episode 442 This episode of Double Tap is brought to you by: C&G Holsters, Die Free Co., Night Fision, Blue Alpha, Second Call Defense, and Swampfox Optics   Welcome to Double Tap, episode 442! Your hosts tonight are Jeremy Pozderac, Aaron Krieger, Nick Lynch, and me Shawn Herrin, welcome to the show! Text Dear WLS or Reviews +1 743 500 2171 - Dear WLS Dependable Don - So what holsters do you run with your fanny pack? I got the qilo prison wallet which is Velcro backed so crossbreed has holsters that work but not crazy about it. Switch to a blapha or are Velcro backed holsters acceptable? Adam W - I am looking for a red dot that can stand up to a .357 magnum Chippa Rhino. I have put 2 other dots on it I had laying around and now I just want one I don't have worry about. I was thinking the Judge XL from Gideon. Would this be a good choice? The use case for this gun is local matches and range toy. Also, I am looking for a holster for this setup. The Chippa Rhino is the 60ds model with the pic rail in front of the cylinder. Your help is much appreciated. Scanks Adam Luis G - I am in Florida and do a lot of lake bank fishing. What would be a good caliber to carry and what type of rounds to use against alligators? Should I run a couple of snake shot rounds first for moccasins then the gator rounds? Jack B - Matt diniman just did a kickstarter campaign where 2 of the reward tiers included getting killed in a future DCC book. If you were get this prize for another cast member, which option would you choose and how would they die? Option, They are a crawler who gets killed. Option 2, They are a monster or NPC that gets killed by Donut and T-bagged by mongo. Ny(e)gerski - "This one is mostly for Mr. Saggins. Scroto, what are you signed up to hunt this year? I feel like we haven't had any 47 minute long hunting stories in a while and are due for one or 2. P.S.....are you sure you and Kevin from Q aren't kindred spirits?.....I can't tell who tells longer hunting stories... Pee Pee S.....i had something for here, but forgot....and now got you to say pee pee...." Eli K - I am building a new house soon. It will have a vault room in the basement. The floor, ceiling, and all four walls will be poured concrete. Other than that, I'm leaving it unfinished after framing and insulation, and I will take it form there. It will have HVAC and electrical available. What else should I do? Seems like a good idea to put a drain in. I'm tentatively planning to do Lockdown walls. Anything other suggestions? Jerry F - Do either of you guys have any idea where i can find Accurate Nitro 100NF for sale? I've been checking all of the reputable dealers online (Brownells, Midway usa, ammoseek etc) and I haven't been able to find any 4 or 8lb bottles all summer. I shoot trap every weekend with my dad and our local league just started and I commonly go through a hundred plus rounds each weekend. I believe accurate is a division of Hodgdens. Any help would be greatly appreciated. And in your opinions where is all the powder going? Love the show, thank you. Jeremy is not a cunt, he just doesn't have any patience for stupidity. John J - I've recently realized I'm a fan of both Jeremy and Aaron. Which probably means I'm either deeply complex, or there's something wrong with me. Thoughts? Also, would love to see some more Dangerous Freedom videos. I am looking forward to the red dot - magnifier comparison. One of my AR's has a CompM5 with a 3x magnifier. I want to love it for what the combo cost, but I find myself removing the magnifier more often than not. Thanks for the show.   The winner of this week's swag pack is John J! To win your own, go to welikeshooting.com/dashboard and submit a question!   Gun Industry News O/LINK Modular Trauma Panel (MTP) Analysis: A low-profile, "cyberpunk" inspired attachment designed by Evan Ohl to extend MOLLE webbing below mounted pouches for medical gear. Made from rigid yet lightweight 8-layer Tegris®, it attaches hardware-free to 4 columns of webbing and includes shock cord for securing items. Price / Availability: $25.00 / Available now at evanohl.com (Made to order, ~2 week lead time). Zaffiri Precision to Unveil Their First Complete Pistols at SHOT 2026 Analysis: Zaffiri Precision is shifting focus from à la carte parts to pre-configured complete uppers and will debut their first three complete pistols. The new lineup features five tiers (ZULU, ECHO, X-RAY, VECTOR, and IBS), each available in standard or "Elite" configurations with upgrades like threaded barrels and tritium night sights. Price / Availability: Pricing not listed / Unveiling at SHOT Show 2026; product shift begins January 2026. Weatherby Model 307 Cuts Barrel to 16 Inches for 7mm Backcountry Analysis: Weatherby introduces the Model 307 Alpine MDT SB, a compact rifle optimized for suppressor use and backcountry hunting. It features a 16-inch barrel specifically paired with Federal Premium's 7mm Backcountry ammunition to maintain performance in a short package. Built on the Model 307 action (Remington 700 footprint compatible), it sits in an MDT HNT26 carbon fiber chassis with a folding stock, reducing overall length by over 9 inches for transport. Price / Availability: $3,249 MSRP / Released late Dec 2025; available now. Turkish MMT Machine Gun Completes NATO Qualification Tests Analysis: The MKE MMT (Milli Makineli Tüfek) is a Turkish 7.62x51mm machine gun that has passed NATO qualification. Based on the Soviet PKM design (two-stage feed, right-side feed), it features modern updates like a detachable trigger mechanism, receiver cover Picatinny rail, and a new brass deflector. Weighing only 8 kg (17.6 lbs), it is lighter than the M240 and HK421. Price / Availability: No civilian price listed / Cleared for serial production as of Dec 2025; likely for Turkish military and potential export to African or former Warsaw Pact nations. Henry Honors America's 250th With Ultra-Limited Spirit of ‘76 Rifle Analysis: A highly exclusive collector's edition celebrating the U.S. Semiquincentennial (250th anniversary). Built on the "New Original Henry" platform (1860 patent reproduction) in .44-40 WCF. Features an engraved nickel-plated brass receiver with 24-karat gold accents depicting Revolutionary War imagery (Independence Hall, George Washington's sword, early flags). Includes a polished blued octagon barrel, hand-selected rosewood stock, and crescent buttplate. Price / Availability: $4,115 MSRP / Limited to 250 units; sold factory-direct. Released Dec 2025. Less Length, Same Strength: Samson Unveils The SAS-K Stock Analysis: A compact variant of the Samson Adjustable Stock (SAS) system, the SAS-K reduces the length of pull (LOP) by one inch (9"-10") compared to the standard model while maintaining the same durability and features. It includes a side-folding mechanism, 5-position adjustable LOP, 4-position adjustable cheek riser, and ambidextrous QD sling points. Designed for body armor users or confined spaces. Price / Availability: $315.65 / Available now. Badger Ordnance Forged Condition One Charging Handle (C1CH) Analysis: The C1CH differentiates itself by being machined from forgings rather than billet or extrusion for superior strength. It features a raised gas fence for gas mitigation (ideal for suppressed shooting), ergonomic ambidextrous latches with vertical serrations, and snag-free rounded edges. The width is streamlined at 2.42 inches, and it weighs 1.1 oz. Price / Availability: $100.00 / Available now in 5.56 (Black/Tan); 7.62 and MCX versions coming in 2026. CrossBreed Holsters Introduces The LightGuard Holster Analysis: The LightGuard is a new IWB holster built on CrossBreed's MultiFlex platform, specifically designed for pistols with weapon-mounted lights. It features a hybrid construction with a replaceable light-specific Kydex lower shell (allowing light upgrades without replacing the whole holster) and an injection-molded adjustable upper shell for firearm retention. It supports multiple mounting clips and carry positions (appendix, strong-side, cross-draw). Price / Availability: $44.95 (Base Price) / Available now directly from CrossBreed. New Product Highlight: Build A Custom Rifle Case With Lynx Defense Analysis: Lynx Defense now offers fully customizable rifle cases made in the USA (North Carolina) using 1,000D Cordura. Users can mix and match colors for the main body (solids, camo, splatter), exterior pocket, zippers, and logo. Available in four sizes: Byte (21" for PDWs), Bureau (32" for SBRs), Bronx (36" for 16" carbines), and Gigabyte (42" for long rifles). Price / Availability: $319.99 - $644.99 depending on size / Available now (made to order). Pistollo 77° Secures U.S. Distributor - Limited Launch Edition Planned Analysis: The Pistollo 77° semi-automatic pistol is coming to the U.S. civilian market via exclusive distributor Deluxe Imports (Boerne, Texas). The first release will be a "Launch Edition" designed for collectors with unique elements. To comply with U.S. regulations and market needs, the U.S. version features a rear Picatinny rail for braces, an upper receiver rail for optics, and a 1/2×28 threaded muzzle. A proprietary stabilizing brace is also in development. Price / Availability: Pricing not listed / Launch planned for Q2 2026; waitlist currently exceeds 2,000 customers.   Before we let you go - Join Gun Owners of America   Tell your friends about the show and get backstage access by joining the Gun Cult at theguncult.com.   No matter how tough your battle is today, we want you here fight with us tomorrow. Don't struggle in silence, you can contact the suicide prevention line by dialing 988 from your phone.

Double Tap Episode 440 This episode of Double Tap is brought to you by: Mitchell Defense, Night Fision, Second Call Defense, Rost Martin, and Swampfox Optics   Welcome to Double Tap, episode 440! Your hosts tonight are Jeremy Pozderac, Aaron Krieger, Nick Lynch, and me Shawn Herrin, welcome to the show! Text Dear WLS or Reviews. +1 743 500 2171 - Dear WLS Operative Enthalpy - Dear WLSWhat are your thoughts on a tunable gas block, like the one from Odin Works, versus a standard gas block, or an adjustable gas block. Is it a solution looking for a problem that should be solved by having a proper gas port size in your barrel, or is it a somewhat valuable option for tuning a range or hunting gun to function smoothly for general operating conditions.Operative Enthalpy Anonymous Coward from GA - Do you think the top part of a mermaid also tastes like fish or that it would actually be red meat? Would there be a solid line where the meat changes in their body or would it kind of blend? Could you make a surf and turf platter with one carcass? Fisher Cat - Hey guys, was thinking of getting a shotgun. In your opinion should I get a Remington 870 or a Mossberg 500? Both of them are at my LGS for $400 and I'm torn between which would be better for home defense and hunting. Also, would a shotgun be a good weapon to have in an event where society collapses? Thanks keep up the good fight #ssb#ShootStraight Gaston Glock - Is the aftermarket beaver tail for Glocks to adjust the grip angle to be more like a 1911 a gimmick or would it actually be something to consider if you like how a 1911 feels in your hand. Zac C - Hey guys, just wanted to give an update on what I went with for my son's first real gun for his 13th birthday. Went with the ruger American gen 2 .243 20” barrel partly because of the removable LOP on the stock, then when he's bigger he can still use it as a full size gun. Added an sig buckmaster 3x9 that my brother got him paired with some leupold rings. Thanks for the opinions that I might hear before his next birthday. Shute str8 notes in 90-120 business days Scott G - I noticed we don't talk about Brownells anymore. Are they no longer a sponsor? Matt A - 2 questions…I have a comp'd g43x and am thinking about changing out the guide rod and spring to a lighter weight than the 17# oem spring. Is the a difference or an advantage in using a single spring guide rod set vs dual spring sets? Ammo used is defensive 124 gr jhp. In regards to ammo, what's the benefit to using +p ammo in a comp'd handgun and will the extra pressure negate what the compensator is supposed to do?Thanks and love the show.   Chris M - How much does the Gideon Guardeon 1-8x FFP scope weigh? My deer getter, a 16"" .450 bush hamster AR, with a 19oz Dead Air Primal is already getting kind of heavy. I have a swampfox trihawk on it now, and while it's nice, it's also a pound and if I could get more zooms for the same weight, I want to go back to an LPVO The winner of this week's swag pack is Zac C! To win your own, go to welikeshooting.com/dashboard and submit a question!   Gun Industry News THEON Wins Huge Night Vision Deal Theon lands record €1B contract for 100K+ Mikron NVGs (16mm tubes) to Germany and Belgium—biggest ever by European NATO member. Boosts gun community's NVG supply chain with production locked to 2029. Not for civilian sale. AK-47 Sets World Record Price at $246,750 Rock Island Auction sold a rare milled-receiver Chinese Type 56 AK-47 machine gun, a Vietnam War bringback registered in 1968 amnesty by USMC Lt. Col. Frank Wolcott, for world-record $246,750—blowing past $80K-$130K estimates. Sets new high for AK prices, exciting collectors. Not available now. Diamondback Unveils Ventra Suppressors Diamondback Firearms launches Ventra suppressor line, from .22LR to .30 cal. Made of tough Inconel and stainless steel, full-auto rated, modular HUB-compatible with special pressure venting to cut blowback and recoil. Models: DBS-300RUMi $1,148; DBS-556i $998; DBS-22i $575. New for AR/revolver maker entering suppressors. Not available yet. ATF OKs GROT Pistol for Sale Polish MSBS GROT Pistol gets ATF approval for US civilian sale in 10.5", 13", and 14.5" barrels. Modular non-AR15 alternative for gun owners. Not available yet. New Zastava .338 Machine Gun Zastava unveiled a new .338 Norma Magnum machine gun prototype at Partner 2025 expo. It's an upgraded M84/M20 design with heavier barrel and push-through feed for longer range (1,500-1,700m) vs. old 7.62mm's 800-1,000m, weighing 22-28 lbs. Fills gap between light GPMGs and .50-cals with better reach and punch, like Western MG338 but from Serbia's PK lineage. Gives gun community a rare, durable Eastern Euro entry in hot .338NM caliber. Prototype only, not available. Silent Steel Patents Cool Gun Silencer Tech Silent Steel USA patented FLOW-IQ, a unique gas-rotation suppressor tech that spirals and cools gases without baffles, cutting backpressure, fouling, recoil, flash, and blowback. It's user-cleanable and in all Streamer models (full, compact, micro). Gun community gets a durable, consistent alternative to baffle designs. Not yet listed for sale. Fun Binoculars for Kids MCG Dark Force digital night vision binoculars review: cheap $150 toy with IR illuminator, recording, and laser pointer. Sees shapes to 75 yards on clear nights, laggy narrow view, kid-friendly lightweight plastic—not real NV like $2k+ gear. Fun stocking stuffer for gun folks' young ones introducing night spotting. Available now. Tippmann Suppressed Rimfire Rifles: Elite ISS and Bug Out ISS Tippmann Arms launches Elite ISS Rifle and Bug Out ISS Pistol—integrally suppressed .22LR ARs with built-in quiet barrels for shorter length, less weight, no alignment issues. Beats add-on suppressors by being one-piece, cheaper. Timed for 2026 $200 tax cut. Gun folks get pre-order access now; ships early 2026. Not available yet. Henry's New Predator: Super-Accurate Lever Gun Henry unveils SPD Predator, a lever-action .223/5.56 rifle with factory 3-shot sub-MOA guarantee—first ever for them and most accurate in lineup. Carbon-fiber wrapped barrel cuts weight, suppressor-ready, takes AR mags, includes bipod. Built for predator hunting precision up to one mile. MSRP $2,510. Shipping now. Tuning the Shadow 2: New Frame Weight Eemann Tech's blackened steel frame weight adds 172g to CZ Shadow 2's front for better balance and less recoil in fast shooting. Screws on easily, no mods needed, removable. Special: tunes handling for competitions without changing gun shape. Available now. Gun folks gain easy recoil fix for matches. Before we let you go - Join Gun Owners of America   Tell your friends about the show and get backstage access by joining the Gun Cult at theguncult.com.   No matter how tough your battle is today, we want you here fight with us tomorrow. Don't struggle in silence, you can contact the suicide prevention line by dialing 988 from your phone. Remember - Always prefer Dangerous Freedom over peaceful slavery. We'll see you next time!   Nick - @busbuiltsystems | Bus Built Systems Jeremy - @ret_actual | Rivers Edge Tactical Aaron - @machinegun_moses Savage - @savage1r Shawn - @dangerousfreedomyt | @camorado.cam | Camorado

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Do you want to learn more about ROP and LOP in your PA-46? Joe Casey and Kenneth Hale break it all down — what works, what doesn't, and how to get the most from your engine. From oil separators to static leaks, this episode of The Malibu Guru Podcast is packed with practical advice every PA-46 pilot can use.

Kuo stipri Alsėdžių bendruomenė?Į šį klausimą atsakyti padės Alsėdžių bendruomenės pirmininkas Žydrūnas Purauskis, Žemaitijos kadetų gimnazijos direktorius Regimantas Kavaliauskas, pav. Ričardas Ruškys ir jaunieji kadetai Nojus Vertelis ir Gustas Ruškys, Alsėdžių pažinimo centro savanorė mokytoja Daiva Gramalienė, Alsėdžių parapijos klebonas kunigas Audrius Keršys, pedagogė ir režisierė Vida Lipskytė.Ved. Jolanta Jurkūnienė

Here's a clip of today's episode, where Ryan is joined by the Athletic's Carl Anka. In this clip, there's part of the discussion about Arsenal's impressive 4-0 win over Atleti in the Champions League, which saw Viktor Gyökeres score a couple, ending his goal drought. Head over to the full episode on Patreon, to hear more on Arsenal, some chat about Barcelona's 6-1 win over Olympiacos, Fermín Lopéz's first senior hat-trick, how Marcus Rashford is settling in at Barcelona under Hansi Flick, before moving on to more goal fests in Leverkusen, Eindhoven and rounding up the rest of Tuesday's Champions League games.London listeners, don't forget, tickets are available for our live show at the Southbank Centre on December 4th. Go get them here.For more podcasts each week, ad-free and in full, plus access to the Stadio Social Club and much more, become a Stadio member by going to patreon.com/stadio. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"With a little time... we're going to become a proper family..."In spite of our insistence it was a bad episode, we have to admit, we were wrong. (Or, more likely, our tastes and perspectives have changed with time.) "Lop & Ochō" was a fantastic episode to revisit. We found so much more depth and appreciation for the story Geno Studio told this time around. We talked Yuki Igarashi's notion of this episode's "wabi sabi," and the comfort you can still find in it's "imperfect" ending. Plus, the gorgeous animation, costumes, and the overarching theme of Imperial oppression.Stick around for our Beyond the Outer Rim Segment, where Tommy shares his experience exploring the world of improv for the first time!- Where To Find Us - Web: ⁠GlitterJaw.com⁠⁠Bluesky: @DistantEchoespod.bsky.socialInstagram: ⁠⁠@DistantEchoesSW⁠⁠TikTok: @DistantEchoesPod⁠Email: ⁠DistantEchoesSW@gmail.com⁠- Theme Music -失望した by EVA -⁠ https://joshlis.bandcamp.com⁠⁠Promoted by ⁠⁠@RoyaltyFreePlanet⁠⁠Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 ⁠⁠http://bit.ly/RFP_CClicense⁠- Sources -Filmmaker Focus: "The Elder" (Disney+)Please consider donating to the Palestinian Children's Relief Fund, a non-profit with the mission to provide medical and humanitarian relief collectively and individually to children throughout the Levant, regardless of their nationality or religion: ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.pcrf.net⁠⁠⁠⁠ All audio clips are used under Fair Use and belong to their respective copyright owners.

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En première partie, nous partons tout d'abord en Afghanistan. Le 15 août 2021, les talibans y prenaient le pouvoir ou le reprenaient. Depuis, les droits des femmes sont bafoués, les Afghanes visées par de nombreuses restrictions ont progressivement disparu de l'espace public (du gouvernement, de nombreuses entreprises, des collèges, des universités). Parmi les nombreux drames, politiques, sociaux, humains, tout simplement que cela engendre, une étude menée par l'ONU révèle une crise de santé mentale liée à la perte de leurs droits, 78% des femmes ont déclaré avoir une santé mentale mauvaise ou très mauvaise, et 8% ont dit connaître au moins une autre femme ou fille qui aurait tenté de se suicider. Un reportage rendu possible grâce à des témoignages de femmes en Afghanistan, récoltés par téléphone par Hasina Akbari qui a collaboré avec notre correspondante au Pakistan. ... En seconde partie d'émission, nous serons dans le Parc de la Lopé, au Gabon, avec François Mazet. Le Parc de la Lopé, un des plus beaux parcs naturels du pays qui recèlent une part de l'histoire, ou plutôt de la préhistoire du Gabon. François Mazet répond également à nos questions en fin d'émission. Afghanistan, la longue nuit des femmes Le 15 août 2021, les talibans prenaient le pouvoir en Afghanistan. Ou reprenaient le pouvoir. Depuis, les droits des femmes sont bafoués. Les Afghanes, visées par de nombreuses restrictions, ont progressivement disparu de l'espace public : du gouvernement, de nombreuses entreprises, des collèges, des universités. Parmi les nombreux drames, politiques, sociaux, (humains tout simplement) que cela engendre, une récente étude menée par l'ONU révèle une crise de santé mentale.  Une crise de plus en plus grave chez les femmes, liée à la perte de leurs droits. 78% des femmes ont déclaré avoir une santé mentale « mauvaise » ou « très mauvaise », et 8% ont dit connaître au moins une autre femme ou fille qui avait tenté de se suicider. Un reportage rendu possible grâce à des témoignages de femmes en Afghanistan récoltés par téléphone par Hasina Akbari qui a collaboré avec notre correspondante au Pakistan. Un Grand reportage de Sonia Ghezali qui s'entretient avec Jacques Allix. Le parc de la Lopé, sauvegarder le patrimoine naturel et humain du Gabon  Il est le plus ancien et le plus connu des parcs nationaux du Gabon. Le parc national de Lopé-Okanda en plein cœur du pays, abrite sur 5.000 km² une faune et une flore d'une grande richesse. Mais aussi un patrimoine archéologique qui lui vaut d'être classé à l'UNESCO depuis 2007. Malgré des moyens limités, les équipes des parcs nationaux font de leur mieux pour défendre l'intégrité de ce havre de savanes et de forêts baigné par les eaux du fleuve Ogooué. Un Grand reportage de François Mazet qui s'entretient avec Jacques Allix.

Il est le plus ancien et le plus connu des parcs nationaux du Gabon. Le parc national de Lopé-Okanda en plein cœur du pays, abrite sur 5.000 km² une faune et une flore d'une grande richesse. Mais aussi un patrimoine archéologique qui lui vaut d'être classé à l'UNESCO depuis 2007. (Rediffusion) Malgré des moyens limités, les équipes des parcs nationaux font de leur mieux pour défendre l'intégrité de ce havre de savanes et de forêts baigné par les eaux du fleuve Ogooué. «Le parc de la Lopé, sauvegarder le patrimoine naturel et humain du Gabon», un Grand reportage de François Mazet.

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Send us a textEp 293 Ant Evans 2008 UFC Media Relations The year 2008 was a wild year for the UFC; it featured 3 of the largest grossing PPV's in company history and some incredible main events. Ant Evans returns to the show to discuss what took place in 2008 and share never heard from before stories from an incredible era. Ep 293 Ant Evans 2008 UFC Media Relations0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 MMA history podcast  intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:34 interview start 8:22 Roger Huerta training issues 13:44 Roger Huerta burying the UFC15:54 The “Irish hand grenade” controversy 20:28 UFC reaction to Affliction event 23:47 Affliction attorney working for the UFC25:49 Affliction event music performance 26:40 Super fight league failure 28:04 UFC lawsuits 30:26 Sean Sherk testing positive for PEDs33:25 UFC popularity in the UK 36:56 Randy couture turns down Nogueira fight 37:49 Brock Lesnar wanting to fight in the UFC41:07 Frank Mir Joe Silva friendship 42:22 Tim Sylvia arm break 44:15 Frank Mir fight career decline 48:26 Dan Henderson vs Anderson Silva 51:14 redesigning the UFC belt52:55 Randy Couture threatening retirement 55:46 UFC 83 breaking attendance record 57:36 Art Davie inducted into UFC HOF1:00:40 UFC HOF mistakes 1:05:29 Art Davie UFC founder plaque 1:08:25 Bob Meyrowitz no showing UFC HOF 1:11:00 online criticism over UFC HOF1:16:11 Mike Tyson speech 1:19:05 certain media banned from the UFC 1:20:50 calling Joe Silva 1:21:52 issues with bringing in Gilbert Yvel 1:24:03 Matt Lindland fake tapping 1:25:47 UFC 85 Bedlam1:33:51 owning domain names of fighters 1:35:27 Jon Jones UFC debut 1:36:25 UFC ppv sales 1:37:59 Brock Lesnar vs Alistair Overeem1:45:09 UFC name, image, and likeness contracts 1:46:08 Forrest Griffin vs Rashad Evans 1:50:03 UFC trivia questions 1:52:31 interview wrap up/ outroSubscribe to the MMA History Podcast  https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastSocials: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreRagdollMMA - Thumbnail Andrew Mendoza - Record Keeping - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Outro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #fightpodcast Support the show

Send us a textEp 291 Mac Danzig UFC Years 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 MMA history podcast  intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:32 interview start 3:44 plugs/ promotions 6:27 jiu jitsu for the current generation 8:54 backroom bonus from the UFC 12:02 Mac Danzig vs Josh Neer 15:16 suffering 3 straight losses in the UFC18:26 opportunities from Joe Silva 21:12 firing Monte Cox as a manager 23:17 moving to Los Angeles 26:31 Hoelzer Reich clothing controversy 37:28 coached by Gil Martinez and Gray Maynard40:46 Jay Hieron and Myke Pile 45:32 Mac Danzig vs Matt Wiman53:36 Mac Danzig vs Joe Stevenson1:02:31 cancelled bout with Cowboy Cerrone 1:07:40 coach Shawn Tompkins passes away 1:14:28 Mac Danzig vs Matt Wiman1:19:09 coaches that never competed 1:25:40 Chad George vs Scott Jorgensen 1:27:15 reconnecting with Rico Chiaperelli 1:32:44 Mac Danzig vs Efrain Escudero1:40:44 fighters not fighting full potential in gym 1:43:40 having a high ring IQ 1:47:08 offering to fight in BKFC1:48:46 female fighter contracts 1:54:11 interview wrap up1:54:33 outro/ closing thoughtsMac Danzig joins us for a 3rd time abs we dig into the start of his UFC career. There is a reason Danzig has been joined us 3x and this interview does not disappoint. We discuss Joe Stevenson, Matt Wiman, Shawn Tompkins as well as his training partners Jay Hieron & Mike Pyle. This is an awesome listen Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreRagdollMMA - Thumbnail Andrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 290 Kazja Kage Kombat & Conspiracy When it comes to pioneers of the early No Holds Barred days, the name Kazja is associated with both progress and controversy. Kazja gave us a look at what it was like to be on the front lines fighting the athletic commissions tooth and nail on every decision and how he was able to subvert their system. Some of the sports biggest names attended and participated in his events and in this interview we remember what is considered the sports “Golden Era” Ep 290 Kazja Kaged Kombat & Conspiracy0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 MMA history podcast  intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:45 interview start 1:46 plugs/ promotions 4:17 introduction to submission fighting 8:04 first MMA event Kazja hosted 12:00 inspiration behind octagon cage 13:25 shoot fighter movie using cage 17:55 dealings with Joe Son 22:47 stick fighting tournament 23:58 Tapout similar logo to MatRat clothing28:13 screwed on deal by Charles Mask Lewis 32:56 relationship with Punkass 34:30 relationship with Scrape 36:23 struggles hosting first event 43:43 Beau Hershberger 44:48 cops showing up after event 48:32 thoughts on cobra fighting championship 52:38 Hitman fight promotions 53:39 Ryan Chenoweth55:55 LA times covering fight event 1:00:55 dealings with Joe Pardo 1:02:35 experience with Tracy Hess 1:04:39 Erica Montoya1:10:58 thoughts on Ryan Greg 1:11:14 thoughts on Jeremy Williams 1:12:10 Karo Parisian early start 1:15:18 Harout Terzyan1:16:54 Kanji Ishibashi1:17:05 Toby Imada 1:17:52 Sean Loeffler1:18:39 Rafiel Torre 1:19:15 Lodune Sincaid1:19:56 Brian Peterson1:20:06 Extreme Pancrase 11:23:53 fallout with Ryan Channel 1:25:22 Jeremy Jackson 1:27:09 Joe Moriera vs Joe Son1:30:37 Shamrock 20001:32:09 Jason Maxwell 1:32:43 Toby Imada taking tough fights 1:34:54 Shannon Ritch1:37:07 Mike Bitonio 1:38:17 backstage at WCC event 1:41:29 dealings with Armando Garcia 1:45:52 John Matua vs Tank Abbott 1:48:02 interview wrap up 1:50:31 outro/ closing thoughts Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

From RSS-Jan Sangh's Balraj Madhok to ex-Gujarat CM Modi, Opposition has always targeted the Election Commission. Why CEC Gyanesh Kumar is hurting Indian democracy by making it personal, ThePrint Political Editor explains in this episode of #politicallycorrect

Send us a textEp 289 Cecil Peoples w/ Herb Dean Deep DiveCecil Peoples joins us to discuss the developmental days of mixed martial arts and its transition into modern day fighting. We delve into stories about Frank Dux, Zane Frazier and the reputation of Gene LeBellHerb Dean sat in on this special episode with a true pioneer of the sport Cecil Peoples Ep 289 Cecil Peoples w/ Herb Dean Career Deep Dive  0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 MMA history podcast  intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:41 interview start 2:00 beginnings in martial arts 4:44 drafted in to the Army 5:58 Reffed the 1st Muay Thai rule event in USA 9:06 Herb Dean meeting Cecil Peoples 12:22 Cecil Peoples importance to martial arts 14:04 Herb Dean becoming a referee 16:09 Herb Dean on growing as a referee 18:55 Tim Sylvia arm break 26:25 Antonio Nogueira snapped arm 28:50 having to pull fighters off during submission 32:24 Manson Gibson35:50 Cyrille Diabate vs Rick Roufus38:45 watching the first UFC on tv39:58 Zane Frazier vs Frank Dux 52:55 Steven Seagal $50k challenge 54:16 Gene LeBell's reputation 1:00:19 auditioning for a movie 1:04:47 understanding Jiu Jitsu before UFC 1:08:35 interactions with the Shamrocks 1:10:43 Erik Paulson 1:13:25 John McCarthy becoming involved in UFC1:18:58 thoughts on Ron Van Clief 1:22:00 Harold Haward and Bart Vale 1:23:00 Ray Wizard in the UFC 1:25:41 Count Donte 1:31:14 Eric Paulson vs James Warring 1:32:04 Herb Dean pulled over for speeding 1:33:57 interview wrap up 1:36:42 outro/ closing thoughtsSubscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

At Black Hat USA 2025, Sean Martin, co-founder of ITSPmagazine, sat down with Brett Stone-Gross, Senior Director of Threat Intelligence at Zscaler, to discuss the findings from the company's latest ransomware report. Over the past five years, the research has tracked how attack patterns, targets, and business models have shifted—most notably from file encryption to data theft and extortion.Brett explains that many ransomware groups now find it more profitable—and less risky—to steal sensitive data and threaten to leak it unless paid, rather than encrypt files and disrupt operations. This change also allows attackers to stay out of the headlines and avoid immediate law enforcement pressure, while still extracting massive payouts. One case saw a Fortune 50 company pay $75 million to prevent the leak of 100 terabytes of sensitive medical data—without a single file being encrypted.The report highlights variation in attacker methods. Some groups focus on single large targets; others, like the group “LOP,” exploit vulnerabilities in widely used file transfer applications, making supply chain compromise a preferred tactic. Once inside, attackers validate their claims by providing file trees and sample data—proving the theft is real.Certain industries remain disproportionately affected. Healthcare, manufacturing, and technology are perennial top targets, with oil and gas seeing a sharp increase this year. Many victims operate with legacy systems, slow to adopt modern security measures, making them vulnerable. Geographically, the U.S. continues to be hit hardest, accounting for roughly half of all observed ransomware incidents.The conversation also addresses why organizations fail to detect such massive data theft—sometimes hundreds of gigabytes per day over weeks. Poor monitoring, limited security staffing, and alert fatigue all contribute. Brett emphasizes that reducing exposure starts with eliminating unnecessary internet-facing services and embracing zero trust architectures to prevent lateral movement.The ransomware report serves not just as a data source but as a practical guide. By mapping observed attacker behaviors to defensive strategies, organizations can better identify and close their most dangerous gaps—before becoming another statistic in next year's findings.Learn more about Zscaler: https://itspm.ag/zscaler-327152Note: This story contains promotional content. Learn more.Guest:Brett Stone-Gross, Senior Director of Threat Intelligence at Zscaler, | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-stone-gross/ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Zscaler: https://www.itspmagazine.com/directory/zscalerLearn more about ITSPmagazine Brand Story Podcasts: https://www.itspmagazine.com/purchase-programsNewsletter Archive: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/tune-into-the-latest-podcasts-7109347022809309184/Business Newsletter Signup: https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-business-updates-sign-upAre you interested in telling your story?https://www.itspmagazine.com/telling-your-storyKeywords: sean martin, brett stone-gross, ransomware, data extortion, cyber attacks, zero trust security, threat intelligence, data breach, cyber defense, network security, file transfer vulnerability, data protection, black hat, black hat usa 2025, zscaler

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Send us a textEp 288 Homer Moore Career & Controversy Homer Moore started him MMA journey with a Richard Hamilton who was a criminal coach enrolled in the witness protection programHe later connected with Sammy the Bull Gravano where he was arrested for an over a decade old m*rderHomer Moore takes us through these troubling times while also addressing why he tried to street fight Rick Roufus, getting targeted at the Lions Den and the truth about the notorious rigged fight involving Chael Sonnen. This interview is insane…. Ep 288 Homer Moore Career and Controversy 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 MMA history podcast intro 1:14 guest introduction1:36 interview start 1:40 learning wrestling early on 3:14 team mates with Frank Trigg4:38 losing to Ray Miller at the Olympic qualifiers 12:59 never receiving invite for the RAW team 14:27 experience with Frank Trigg 19:59 training with Richard Hamilton25:42 true side of Richard Hamilton 36:39 Homer Moore vs Dan Severn 39:10 first fight off record 41:23 training at the lions den 45:34 Tied with the motorcycle gang Devil Dogs50:32 experience with Sammy Gravano 54:39 Devil Dogs arrest in 20041:00:09 becoming a male stripper 1:04:20 Homer Moore vs David Harris1:06:34 getting shot at 1:08:27 Homer Moore vs Kauai Kupihea1:09:51 being offered alcohol in Mexico 1:11:47 Homer Moore vs Shane Johnson1:13:34 Homer Moore vs Allen Sullivan1:14:37 fighters pulling out before match 1:15:32 picking a fight with Rick Rufas 1:19:21 having to be separated from Ricardo Texiera1:21:08 sparring at the Lions Den before fight 1:27:08 injuring ankle before Evan Tanner fight 1:35:10 post fight comment about Jiu Jitsu 1:37:05 murder investigation from 19991:38:01 wrongfully arrested in 2013 1:46:23 held in jail for 2 years 1:48:24 corruption in the justice system 1:58:57 yelling racial slurs at Benson Henderson 2:00:07 beef with Joe Riggs 2:02:02 Homer Moore vs Jim Theobold2:05:50 training with Igor Zinoviev2:06:17 Homer Moore vs Chael Sonnen2:14:59 Homer Moore vs Jeremy Horn2:16:14 outro/ closing thoughts Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 286 Gan McGee Career Deep Dive Gan McGee takes us through his career that had him in a world title fight while also watching his Teamate Chuck Lidell become the sports first global superstar. Once again legendary coach John Hackleman sits in on another interview featuring one of his prized athletes. Ep 286 Gan McGee Career Deep Dive0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 MMA history podcast  intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:37 interview start 1:57 wrestling champ in college 7:03 California having good fighters?????7:29 connecting with John Hackleman8:25 Glover Teixeira vs Eric Schwartz at gym 10:02 John Hackleman intro 11:25 first time seeing Gan McGee enter gym 14:27 Chuck Liddell drawing people into the gym 16:16 fighting navy seals on the street 20:06 Chuck Liddell in a street fight 21:40 Chris Kyle involved in street fight 23:02 Gan McGee vs Sam Adkins26:39 Gan McGee vs Rickey Herro27:32 Gan McGee vs Aaron Brink29:06 Marc Hall as a promoter 30:08 Aaron Brink controversies 31:59 cross training at different gyms 37:09 American Top Team funding opportunities 39:20 IFC 8 man tournament 41:39 Gan McGee vs Paul Buentello42:13 Knees to grounded opponent banned 44:47 the Gan McGee rule 47:00 Gan McGee vs Josh Barnett50:43 discovering Gan McGee has asthma51:53 Gan McGee vs Rocky Batastin54:29 Gan McGee vs Seth Petruzelli56:33 never fighting in KOTC58:07 interactions with Dana White 59:19 expectations of the WEC 1:02:13 Gan McGee vs Ron Faircloth1:03:57 difficulties finding fights 1:05:51 Gan McGee vs Pedro Rizzo1:09:20 Gan McGee vs Alexandre Dantas1:10:12 Gan McGee vs Tim Sylvia 1:11:55 Tim Sylvia testing positive after fight for PEDs 1:14:33 getting dropped from the UFC 1:18:15 Gan McGee vs Heath Hearing1:24:31 interactions with Corey Peterson 1:25:23 John Hackleman experience in Japan 1:26:42 Gan McGee vs Semmy Schilt1:29:03 avoiding interviews after fighting career1:31:06 sparring with Glover Teixeira1:33:00 favorite fight career memory 1:33:42 interview wrap up 1:34:06 outro/closing thoughts Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 285 Ant Evans 2007 UFC Deep DiveAnt Evans spent 13 years working administratively for the UFC under  the capacity of media manager and Fight Pass president. In his first ever interview; Ant gives us an incredible look into what was being said behind the scenes when the UFC became the global leader of mixed martial arts. This is an interview of the year candidate and we hope that you enjoy it as much as we did. Ep 285 Ant Evans UFC 2007 Deep Dive. 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 MMA history podcast  intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:31 interview start 3:02 the UFC in 2007 4:20 plugs/ promotions 6:58 Rickey Hatton dealings 8:25 discovering the UFC early on 10:17 UFC 38 almost banned 11:03 Lee Murray Tito Ortiz street fight 17:54 backlash for working for the UFC26:00 Andy Geer pre fight interviews 28:11 threats by Dave O'Donnell 30:26 UFC destroying cctv of Murray Ortiz street fight 33:09 UK fighters coming from street backgrounds 37:43 Kara Parisyan dealing with addiction39:26 Nick Diaz issues with anxiety 44:22 Dana White and Tito Ortiz friendship 48:40 Connor McGregor bus incident 52:31 ADCC fight pass deal controversy 1:04:14 Dana White denying BKFC on fight pass 1:05:42 UFC announces buying Pride FC1:09:13 accused of leaking UFC fights 1:10:54 leaks coming from Ryan Bennetts emails 1:14:49 introducing the UFC hall of fame 1:23:19 Frank Shamrock ruining his UFC hall of fame 1:29:34 negotiations with Frank Shamrock 1:37:31 why John Perretti is not in UFC Hall of fame 1:41:38 Jeff Osborne UFC contributions 1:42:01 Melvin Guillard testing positive for cocaine 1:44:05 Matt Serra vs GSP 1:44:50 Dana white refusing HBO commentary 1:46:32 Lorenzo Fertitta trusting Dana White 1:48:15 Joe Rogan signing with UFC 1:50:28 Michael Bisping receiving threats 1:54:25 criticism from John McCain1:56:47 Babalu refusing to let go of submission 2:02:09 Randy Couture walking out of the UFC2:03:01 Pride FC closing their doors2:05:42 Fedor Emelianenko UFC negotiations2:10:24 Affliction MMA teaser 2:12:12 Ant Evans look alike does MMA fight 2:13:27 interview wrap up/ OutroSubscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 284 Bas Boon Golden Glory & Yakuza Legendary manager Bas Boon takes us through the incredibly dangerous behind the scenes from one of the world's most dominant gyms as well as transitioning to having to deal with the Pride FC and the Japanese Yakuza. The Golden Glory gym had gangland type hits, internal fighting and a global reputation for NOT being an organization to oppose. Bas Boon leaves no stone unturned in this incredibly personal look into his business dealings. Ep 284 Bas Boon Golden Glory & Yakuza 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 guest introduction1:21 interview start 1:30 dealing with different Mafia's13:21 relationships with Ari Pols14:02 thoughts on Ron Nyqvist17:47 Ron Nyqvist issues with Rob & Erik Driesson33:15 Ron Nyqvist dealing ecstasy34:25 Ron Nyqvist turning into a rat 42:06 Ron Nyqvist liquidating himself 47:27 personality of Ron Nyqvist 48:15 koos Hertogs49:02 Karate Bob49:39 relationship with Frederico Lapenda50:21 IFC Ukraine event 54:10 dealings with Andy Anderson 55:25 issues with Too hot to handle1:00:08 Escort service owner story 1:03:41 friendship with Thom Harinck1:07:28 using a different name to pay for room service 1:09:10 Branko Cikatic money collector 1:09:54 Mark Kerr vs Branko Cikatic 1:11:08 singing to the wrong Yakuza 1:14:22 Branko Cikatic trouble with Pride rules 1:15:16 1:16:21 dealings with Vadim Finkelstein1:17:31 Japanese promotion war 1:21:58 alleged fake fights in Japan 1:23:42 attendance numbers at fighting events 1:26:41 relationship with Appy Etcheld1:28:02 thoughts on Martjin Dejong1:29:36 UFC releases due to “unusual business practices”1:35:11 Dennis Stojnic UFC signing 1:39:43 Dennis Stojnic incident in Serbia 1:42:40 Alister Overeem departing from Golden Glory1:44:41 Fedor Emelianenko training with Ernesto Hoost 1:45:39 Fedor Emelianenko not aware of K1 offer 1:50:13 Pride FC Yakuza issues 1:52:12 Sakakibara avoiding criminal charges 1:55:14 interview wrap up 2:03:06 outro/ closing thoughtsSubscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 283 Jason Von Flue Career Deep Dive Jason Von Flue made a name for himself on the Ultimate Fighter Season 2; his appearance thar was somewhat controversial due to how he was treated on the show. An original member of The Pit fight team Jason recalls his time watching Chuck Lidell become the sports biggest superstar This is Jason Von Flue's first ever podcast and to say that this was a difficult get… would be an understatement; we hope that you enjoyed this as much as we did. Ep 283 Jason Von Flue Career Deep Dive 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:35 interview start 2:53 beginnings in MMA 7:40 early training partners 11:08 getting into bar fights 16:52 Chuck Liddell vs Noe Hernandez 19:12 realizing Chuck Liddell was a superstar 22:57 UFC golden era fighters 24:19 Dana White managing Chuck Liddell25:38 fighting 2 times at submission factory 31:59 IFC 8 man tournament41:55 Jason Von Flue vs Dave Marinoble43:38 relationship with Paul Smith 44:56 Jason Von Flue vs Toby Imada49:16 Jason Von Flue vs Savant Young51:34 Gan McGee53:18 promoter Mark Hall 54:14 inner gender MMA belt 57:09 Jason Von Flue vs Mark Volz59:37 Chuck Liddell UFC opponents 1:01:27 Chuck Liddell vs Babalu1:03:15 experience with Tito Ortiz 1:04:54 avoiding street fights 1:06:48 Chuck Liddell understanding fans 1:09:00 plugs/promotions 1:10:23 Jason Von Flue vs Erik Meaders1:12:08 cabbage vs Aaron Brink 1:13:45 problem with modern UFC1:15:21 Abe Baxter story 1:19:11 feeling a punch from Chuck Liddell1:21:37 Jason Von Flue vs Ronald Jhun1:23:35 Jason Von Flue vs Jim Walker1:25:55 Jason Von Flue vs Bob Ostovich1:28:06 how TUF changed fight coaches 1:34:10 taking a 2 year break from fighting 1:34:47 creating the Von Flue choke 1:39:40 Brian Sleeman vs Chris Leben1:41:15 Von Flue Choke explained 1:42:29 plugs/ promotions 1:43:51 Jason Von Flue vs Mac Danzig 1:48:06 Jason Von Flue vs Nick Davanzo1:51:53 becoming a cast member for TUF 21:59:51 going home after TUF 2 filming 2:02:33 Jason Von Flue vs Jorge Gurgel2:08:48 training with Matt Hughes 2:11:16 Jason Von Flue vs Alex Karalexis2:13:32 Jason Von Flue vs Luke Stewart 2:15:07 relationship with Ryan Bennett 2:16:03 Jason Von Flue vs Luke Cummo2:18:09 relationship with Glover Teixeira 2:19:47 Jason Von Flue vs Eric Wray 2:22:36 Jason Von Flue vs Cung Lee2:24:23 interview wrap up 2:29:23 outro/ closing thoughtsSubscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - HisSupport the show

Send us a textEp 282 Antonio Banuelos Career Deep Dive Antonio Banuelos is a pioneer of the 135# weight class; he was the WEC champion prior to the weight class existing in the UFC Banuelos takes us through his career as well as what it was like to live with Chuck Lidell at the height of his fighting career. Special Thank You to John Hackleman for once again joining us on this very special episode. Ep 282 Antonio Banuelos Career Deep Dive  0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 MMA history podcast intro 1:14 guest introduction1:31 interview start 1:33 wrestling in high school 2:54 having a fallout with coach 3:34 transition to MMA training 6:54 hanging out with Bo Taylor and Jake Shields 10:20 training at SLO kick boxing 12:51 living in a house full of fighters 16:13 cornering Jake Shields 17:26 plugs/ promotions 18:51 Jason Von Flu 20:36 cornering Casey Olson22:37 getting a tattoo after every fight 23:41 meeting John Hackleman 24:58 Glover Teixeira sparring with Chuck Lidell 28:02 Antonio Banuelos vs Daniel Garlet31:28 fighting in the IFC 33:58 John Hacklemen intro 35:08 hanging out with Chris Brennan 36:25 Antonio Banuelos vs Stephan Pauling37:00 first impression on Antonio Banuelos 40:53 taking a year off fighting 43:14 Antonio Banuelos power punching 45:54 experience with Ian McCall 48:46 Universal above ground fighting 53:02 stitching up opponent after fight 54:48 Antonio Banuelos vs Jeff Bedard56:13 Antonio Banuelos vs Jim Kikuchi58:32 fighters from Hawaii 1:00:40 Chuck Liddell vs Randy Couture1:04:55 experience with Matt Horwich 1:08:59 manager Dwane Zinkin1:09:55 Antonio Banuelos vs Kyong Song1:11:21 Antonio Banuelos vs Brandon Shuey1:15:50 Antonio Banuelos vs Mike Lindquist1:17:48 cancelled bout with Max Marin1:19:45 Antonio Banuelos vs Justin Tavernini1:20:44 Antonio Banuelos vs Kimihito Nonaka1:21:50 Antonio Banuelos vs Eddie Wineland1:23:38 Antonio Banuelos vs Cole Escovedo1:25:15 Cobb28 clothing brand 1:27:10 Sinister clothing sponsor 1:28:15 war MMA promotion1:28:45 not getting paid by Dream FC 1:31:25 fighting on Tap out reality show 1:33:10 hiding injuries till after fight 1:34:09 becoming part of the pit 1:35:10 influence from John Hackleman 1:41:20 interview wrap up 1:46:44 outro/ final thoughtsSubscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #Support the show

Send us a textEp 281 Bas Boon Dutch Mafia & MMA Bas Boon is one of MMA's  most prolific managers, his involvement in K1 & Pride FC is largely undocumented This interview took almost 3 years to finally track down and it guarantee's a multi part series with a man that has made deals with mafia organizations over 3 different continents Ep 281 Bas Boon Dutch Mafia & MMA 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 MMA history podcast intro 1:14 guest introduction1:54 interview start 2:55 issues publishing book10:47 Semmy Schilt pushback in K115:15 Bob Sapp easy to market as a fighter 16:53 Bob Sapp contract issues 20:08 numerology behind Golden Glory 22:04 Semmy Schilt vs Ernesto Hoost 23:52 illegal Shin tape controversy 28:29 dealings with promoter Simon Rutz 32:19 Apy Etcheld hiring a hitman 37:12 exposing Apy Etcheld on MMA forums 42:48 Patrick Freitas defending Apy Etcheld 43:18 drug and alcohol related crimes 46:30 issues with Phil Baroni at UFC 37 49:15 Karimula Barkalaev50:48 dealings with Amar Suloev55:02 twin brothers having different perspective 59:12 Yakuza involvement with Pride Fc1:06:26 thoughts on Gerard Gordeau1:08:33 Dutch fighters having respect in Japan 1:10:13 relationship with Jon Bluming 1:11:19 student Chris Dolman 1:13:40 Dirty Bob Schrijber dealing with problems 1:16:16 Bob Schrijber vs Gilbert Yvel 1:17:09 relationship with Andre Brilleman 1:17:44 Negotiations with Fedor Emelianenko 1:26:10 Little information on Bas Boon online 1:27:20 putting K1 into bankruptcy 1:29:54 Alistair Overeem negotiations 1:38:20 interview wrap up 1:40:04 outro/closing thoughtsSubscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 279 Hermes Franca Career & Controversy Hermes Franca fought some of the toughest guys in the world during his time at the UFC; inside the cage he seemed to be in complete control…. Outside of the cage was a different story. In his first interview in over a decade, Her ws joins us to talk about his career and path to a world title fight #americantopteam Ep 279 Hermes Franca Career & Controversy 0:00 Disclaimer 0:56 plugs/ promotions 1:36 Lytes out intro 2:09 Joey Venti's guest introduction2:33 interview start 3:04 beginnings in Jiu Jitsu 5:23 connecting with American Top Team 8:52 Hermes Franca vs Mike Brown12:35 Hermes Franca vs Don Kaecher13:57 Hermes Franca vs Anthony Hamlett14:38 Hermes Franca vs Ryan Diaz16:10 thoughts on Jeff Monson 17:53 Hermes Franca vs Rich Crunkilton22:25 Hermes Franca vs Caol Uno 23:42 Hermes Franca vs Josh Thomson26:30 Hermes Franca vs Yves Edwards29:11 connecting with Murilo Bustamonte32:03 fighting Manny Reyes after online argument 35:36 returning to American Top Team 36:27 issues at American Top Team 38:10 first Black belt awarded at ATT39:31 experience with Pacatau 40:16 Hermes Franca vs Yves Edwards rematch 41:04 Hermes Franca vs Ray Cooper 42:42 Hermes Franca vs Ketetsu Boku 43:30 opening up the Armory gym 44:34 controversy around with Kurt Pellegrino48:05 Hermes Franca vs Gabe Rudiger51:37 Hermes Franca vs Ryan Schultz 53:05 Joe Jordan short notice fight55:15 Hermes Franca vs Jamie Varner 56:41 Hermes Franca vs Nate Diaz 1:00:09 Hermes Franca vs Spencer Fisher 1:05:38 choosing to stay sober 1:08:20 early life trauma 1:11:48 popped for PEDs after Sean Sherk fight 1:15:50 1 year suspension 1:17:53 Hermes Franca vs Frankie Edgar 1:18:56 giving the finger to ATT in photo 1:21:16 Hermes Franca vs Marcus Aurilio1:26:11 Dana White paying for knee surgery 1:30:22 addiction to alcohol 1:34:15 Hermes Franca vs Ferrid Kheder1:38:16 interview wrap up 1:40:05 outro/ closing thoughtsSubscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 278 Roberto Traven ADCC & MMA Deep Dive Roberto Traven beginnings in the sport takes us back to the war between Lita Livre & Gracie Jiu Jitsu Very rarely do we ever get such an early look into a time in the sport when there was such chaos. Phenomenal listen Ep 278 Roberto Traven ADCC & MMA Deep Dive 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 guest introduction1:44 interview start 1:47 plugs/ promotions 2:48 learning Jiu jitsu at 16 4:18 Luta Livre vs Jiu Jitsu 4:48 Rickson Gracie vs Hugo Duarte beach fight 10:25 interactions with Ryan Gracie 11:55 unable to vision popularity of Jiu Jitsu 15:32 paving the road for modern BJJ 17:34 Rolls Gracie 18:40 interactions with Gabi García19:35 training with George Medhi21:36 thoughts on Paqueta 23:54 Injuring shoulder at the first IBJJF 25:07 Roberto Traven vs Dave Berry27:53 cornering Fabio Gurgel28:31 cancelled bout with Mark Coleman due to injury 29:44 coaching Fabio Gurgel during fights 30:39 Absolute fighting championship 233:03 Don Frye cornering Leonid Efremov34:34 Roberto Traven vs Leonardo Branco36:01 training with Claudio Coelho41:30 Roberto Traven vs John Machado41:47 getting invited to ADCC 43:26 Jeff Monson in the absolute devision 44:09 Roberto Traven vs Hayato Sakuri45:50 ADCC having success 47:09 Roberto Traven vs Mario Sperry49:25 Terere promoted to black belt after 5 years50:23 Fabio Gurgel having keys to the gym 50:59 Roberto Traven vs Gueorguiev Txvetkov52:47 experience training Luta Livre 55:39 Marco Ruas respectfully calling out Rickson Gracie 57:10 Roberto Traven vs Dave Menne58:07 Roberto Traven vs Tom Erickson59:09 experience in Australia 1:01:32 forming a super team 1:03:44 student Ethan Garrison1:04:21 Rory and Adam Singer1:05:15 Mario Esfahan McCord1:05:44 Robert Drysdale1:06:48 Leo Vieira1:07:16 Chris Moriarty1:08:29 advice for Jiu Jitsu athletes 1:10:16 interview wrap up 1:10:29 outro/ closing thoughts Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 277 Mac Danzig & Kenny Florian The Ultimate Fighter Mac Danzig joins us for a part 3 on his career interview, joining the interview in TUF 1 finalist Kenny Florian.  We get a peak into Kenny Florian's career prior to the UFC in this historic interview Ep 277 Mac Danviz w/ Kenny Florian The Ultimate Fighter 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:48 interview start 2:00 Kenny Florian vs Nuri Shakir6:16 beating Drew Fickett to get o9:08 Dr Lenny Waice  9:51 Mac Danzig offered TUF after Pride fc buyout 13:22 TUF coaches picking teams 16:14 War machine replacing Roman Mitichyan 18:42 Mac Danzig vs Joe Scarola23:00 recognized in public after TUF aired 24:27 Andy Want receiving hate28:42 surviving financially after TUF 30:47 training sessions during TUF33:59 portrayed negatively on TUF37:55 staying quiet about being in the finals 40:24 Mac Danzig vs Tom Speer44:52 moving past TUF after show finale48:04 corner during Tom Speer fight 49:31 Mac Danzig self coaching early 54:02 coaches having no fight experience 59:34 what it takes to be a great coach 1:02:36 moving down to 155lbs after winning TUF 1:03:54 Mac Danzig vs Mark Bocek 1:07:31 Mac Danzig vs Clay Guida 1:12:10 Mac Danzig vs Josh Neer 1:19:09 learning from tough opponents 1:20:16 comments after 2 straight losses 1:24:04 Mac Danzig vs Jim Miller 1:29:39 smelling blood from ringside during fights 1:30:41 interview wrap up 1:31:19 outro/ closing thoughts Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 276 Seth Petruzelli Deep Dive Seth Petruzelli career is filled with incredible moments; from fighting Bob Sapp in Japan to crashing the EliteXC organization after knocking out Kimbo Slice. Seth Petruzelli completely peels back the curtain when discussing his experiences in this incredible interview. Seth Petruzelli Deep Dive Ep 2760:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:36 interview start 1:38 current life 2:30 teaching Japanese Karate 4:57 wrestling in high school 6:46 connecting with Tim Catalfo 10:29 fighting Kevin Randleman on Rooftop 15:07 Hammer house partying 15:59 sending student to accept HOF award 18:16 Seth Petruzelli vs Mario Neto23:13 experience with Frederico Lapenda 24:00 interactions with Darrell Gholar 25:13 Seth Petruzelli vs Gan McGee27:31 Seth Petruzelli vs Mike Ward28:48 Seth Petruzelli vs Rocky Batastini30:58 Seth Petruzelli vs Brian Hawkins33:27 Switching to Marcio Simas gym35:23 Seth Petruzelli vs Dan Severn 38:28 manager Chris Cordiero39:00 Seth Petruzelli vs Bob Sapp40:01 interactions with Bob Sapp43:37 Seth Petruzelli vs Alexander Pichkunov45:08 audition for TUF 246:58 Rashad Evans story 48:41 pranks during TUF 2 50:55 not fighting on TUF 2 finale 52:10 Seth Petruzelli vs Dan Christianson53:24 overtraining during TUF 2 filming 54:42 experience with Matt Hughes 54:59 Seth Petruzelli vs Brad Imes56:03 health issues after filming TUF 2 57:09 experience with Joe Silva 57:41 Seth Petruzelli vs Matt Hamill1:01:30 getting cut from the UFC 1:02:12 Seth Petruzelli vs Wilson Gouveua1:03:37 experience with Jamie Levine 1:05:52 cancelled bout with Cyrille Diabate1:07:03 originally fighting on undercard for Elite XC1:08:29 Ken Shamrock pay issues for Kimbo slice fight 1:11:56 doing color commentary for fights 1:13:55 finding out about fighting Kimbo Slice 1:18:23 conversations after Kimbo Slice fight 1:19:22 Dana White comment on EliteXC1:20:00 mentioning being paid to keep fight standing 1:20:54 finding out EliteXC is out of business 1:23:51 experience with Charles Bennet 1:25:05 Bart Vale 1:26:22 sparring with Wanderlei Silva1:27:42 Ariel Gandula1:29:00 Rob Kahn1:29:56 plugs/ promotions 1:33:21 interview wrap up 1:34:09 outro/ closing thoughts Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreYour Other LeagueHot takes from a cast of relatable sports fans. Not famous, just fun.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show

Lopön Karla Jackson-Brewer - ZMM - 5/18/2025 - This talk from dharma teacher Lopön Karla was offered at the conclusion of the weekend retreat. Feeding your Demons brings an 11th century Tibetan practice to the West in an accessible and effective approach for dealing with negative emotions, fears, illness, self-defeating patterns, and beliefs that hinder our expression of our highest humanity as individuals and as a society.

Send us a textEp 275 Wilson Reis BEFORE the UFC Wilson Reis came to us through a legendary team consisting of Macaco & Godoi; Reis witnessed the split between the two master coaches.  We talk about the highs, the lows and the controversy between Godoi and MacacoSpecial Thank You to Matt Giancarlo for sitting in and lining this up Ep 275 Wilson Reis BEFORE the UFC 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 guest introduction1:42 interview start 2:13 American jiu jitsu vs Brazilian Jiu Jitsu 2:59 making adjustments training in the US6:58 4 toughest American grapplers 9:19 beginnings in Jiu Jitsu 11:27 finding Acadamia de Macaco14:15 fallout between Macaco and Godoi 19:43 Macaco and Godoi black belt ceremony 21:16 choosing to stay with Godoi after split 25:24 experience with Charles Oliveira 27:26 plugs/ promotions 28:32 becoming a world champion at brown belt 29:50 rumor of switching to Gracie Barra 31:11 motivation for moving to the United States 32:53 relationship with Lloyd Irvin34:18 Wilson Reis vs Baba Shigeyasu36:26 Wilson Reis vs Justin Robbins37:58 Wilson Reis vs Bryan Caraway41:44 Elite XC financial issues 43:07 Wilson Reis vs Abel Cullum45:29 training with Eddie Alvarez 46:50 managed by Matt Stansell in Bellator 50:28 experience at Bellator 2 51:27 hanging out with Hector Lombard 53:13 thoughts on Alexis Vila 53:50 switching management to KO Reps 55:10 struggles fighting Brazilian opponents 55:52 training partner Matt Makowski56:45 training partner Jared Weiner57:08 problems with X guard in MMA58:32 Wilson Reis vs Deividas Taurosevicius59:21 Wilson Reis vs Zac George1:00:32 Wilson Reis rematch with Patricio Pitbul1:01:30 cancelled bout with Farkhad Sharipov1:03:15 released from Bellator 1:03:27 Wilson Reis vs Bruno Menzezes in Brazil 1:05:00 coaching on TUF 16 1:06:19 thoughts on Myles Jury 1:08:04 Billy Vaughan1:09:07 Wilson Reis vs Owen Roddy1:10:43 cancelled bout with Hugo Viana1:12:01 Wilson Reis vs Ivan Menjivar 1:16:39 advice to fighters 1:18:59 interview wrap up 1:19:46 outro/ closing thoughts Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 274 Mac Danzig Road to The Ultimate Fighter Mac Danzig joins us for part 2 of his journey to competing at the sports highest levels. Mac Danzig is incredibly reclusive and has intentionally stayed out of the public eye for over a decade We hope that you enjoy this episode as much as we did Ep 274 Mac Danzig Road to The Ultimate Fighter 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:49 interview start 3:44 first fight as a vegan 9:38 shutting down podcast from 2012 14:02 dealing with negative comments 17:46 signing a long term contract with KOTC23:22 getting a fight in Pride FC 24:58 Mac Danzig vs Jason Ireland 26:37 experience training at Millenia29:55 living with Gabe Ruediger 31:01 cancelled bout with Shonie Carter 32:10 issues with king of the cage 35:05 training with Uriah Faber39:04 breaking a family cycle 42:08 Mac Danzig vs Orlando Sanchez 46:00 working security at a bar 46:35 Tank Abbott not adapting in training 48:13 seeing Kimo Leopoldo at UFC event 49:00 Reggie Warren 51:03 connecting with Shawn Tompkins56:45 fake coaches wanting attention 1:01:05 fighters not paying Shawn Tompkins 1:03:01 Mac Danzig vs Buddy Clinton 1:06:27 Mac Danzig vs Clay French 1:08:12 training at Legends gym 1:10:02 Mac Danzig vs Hayato Sakurai1:14:41 going on a 2 fight losing streak 1:16:48 never fighting Kit Kope 1:17:46 having Monte Cox as a manager 1:20:30 experience with Joe Silva 1:26:09 thanking Joe Silva in retirement post 1:29:49 going into The Ultimate Fighter 1:33:32 Andy Wang returning a favor 1:34:49 becoming portrayed as a bad character1:38:15 TUF cast segregated in the house 1:39:00 Joe Scarola fall out with Matt Serra1:43:50 cast member Dorian Price 1:44:20 Troy Mandaloniz 1:45:26 not being able to pursue podcast 1:50:11 plugs/ promotions 1:51:36 interview wrap up 1:55:12 outro/ closing thoughtsSubscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textBart Vale Career Deep Dive Ep 273Bart Vale is considered to be one of the few Americans to be on the ground floor of the Japan MMA explosion. Bart Vale takes us through his time with New Japan Pro Wrestling (NJPW) which include a famous confrontation with Ken Shamrock. BIG thank you to William Colosimo who helped us with understanding a time period that is largely undocumented. Bart Vale Career Deep Dive Ep 273  0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:39 interview start 2:17 beginnings in Martial arts 3:24 Frank Dux 4:29 Rob Van Clief 5:00 moving to Japan to train 10:52 lying about age to seem younger 11:50 issues with Ed Parker 16:06 UWF closing down due to argument 18:40 becoming tired of living in Japan 19:34 closed door fight rumor with Kimura20:40 training with the Machado's 23:50 experience with Soranaka24:27 Karl Gotch fight story 27:02 experience with Gene LeBell 29:11 almost no showing MDA event 31:27 current life 32:39 owning the term “Shoot Fighting” 32:53 underground fights being a shoot 38:28 Pride FC roots 42:12 bringing Ken Shamrock to train 46:52 difficulty dealing with Ken Shamrock 50:04 Ken Shamrock lying about using steroids 51:24 Shoot wrestling match with Ken Shamrock56:04 Mafia involvement in the fight business 57:28 Road Warriors story 58:35 Corporal Kirchner getting arrested 1:00:55 interview with William Collasium 1:01:55 Shoot Fighting Florida1:05:22 dealing with Marcus Marinelli1:11:10 Suzuki and Funaki left Fujiwara and started Pancrase1:13:58 World Combat Championships1:18:21 inviting Jerry Flynn to fight on WCC card 1:19:40 Erik Paulson vs James Warring 1:21:00 experience with Manager Max Coates1:22:56 experience with John Perretti 1:24:23 Bart Vale vs Dan Severn 1:26:49 Don the dragon Wilson 1:27:10 bodyguard for Michael Jackson 1:30:06 Julio Iglesias1:30:50 interview wrap up 1:31:06 outro/ closing thoughts Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 272 Carlson Gracie Tribute - Marcelo Mello Marcelo Mello reflects on his beginnings with a man whom is considered a modern fighting legend. Mello's, time with Carlson Gracie had him witness the incredible foundation of the greatest combat sports team ever assembled;  His journey there ended with an unspoken incident that had Mello permanently leaving the team.  This is a candidate for interview of the year, it is raw, emotional and unapologetic Carlson Gracie Tribute - Marcelo Mello Ep 272 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 guest introduction1:39 interview start 1:53 introduction to jiu jitsu 4:26 Carlson Gracie belt promotions 5:46 first day training 7:55 Rickson Gracie vs Hugo Duarte beach fight 9:40 avoiding a 2 vs 20 fight 10:35 Carlson Gracie relationship with Helio Gracie 12:46 early training partners 13:53 Desafio jiu jitsu vs Lutha Livre16:15 Carlson Gracie easily influenced 19:08 Ricardo Liborio never training 20:05 Carson Gracie claiming Liborio beats Rickson Gracie 22:22 current training gym 23:02 unable to travel due to visa issues 24:55 Carlson Gracie attending cock fights 25:36 backstage at UFC 3 29:58 Vitor Belfort mental issues before fights 34:36 Carlson Gracie strict up bringing 36:27 Carson Gracie relationship with Paqueta 38:17 falling out with Carlson Gracie 44:55 last time seeing Carlson Gracie 49:24 Marcelo Mello vs David Roberts 51:51 getting a call for UFC Japan 52:52 studying Pat Miletich 55:03 jiu jitsu record 56:42 Royce Gracie loss on record 58:00 Carson Gracie split with BTT creators 1:03:10 experience with Frederico Lapenda 1:07:29 student Carmine Zocchi 1:12:21 regrets walking away from fighting 1:15:53 training with Chute Boxe 1:18:17 Carlson Gracie Jr giving 6th degree 1:24:16 Carlson Gracie having 300 students 1:26:47 Carlson Gracie allowing students to train free1:30:05 Amaury Bitetti 1:32:00 interview wrap up 1:32:58 outro/ closing thoughts #carlsongracie #graciejiujitsu Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textChristine Ferea BKFC Deep Dice Ep 271 Christine Ferea is known as the GOAT when it comes to her reign at the Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship. In this episode we get to know Christine Ferea the person in order to understand what drives her to become the most dominant champion in Bare Knuckle history. Christine Ferea BKFC Deep Dive #bkfc 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 guest introduction1:46 interview start 2:01 thoughts on fighting career 4:21 wanting to fight the best fighters 6:15 risk that comes with losses7:20 getting the call to fight in BKFC 9:42 cancelled bout at BKFC 211:08 fighting championship weight early on12:29 having passion for fighting 14:54 thoughts on drinking alcohol 16:40 Christine Ferea vs Jennifer Tate 19:40 having a strong demeanor 21:18 thoughts walking out to fight bareknuckle22:22 doing MMA with 3 months of training 24:03 title shot at BKFC 25:02 calling out Amanda Serrano25:34 experience with David Feldman 28:53 Christine Ferea vs Helen Peralta 30:50 Christine Ferea vs Calista Silgado 33:27 Christine Ferea vs Bec Rawlings 35:18 Conor McGregor showing up before fight 37:25 Christine Ferea vs Jade Masson Wong39:27 Christine Ferea vs Christine Vicens 42:38 potential match with Jessica Borga44:15 interview wrap up 47:21 outro/ closing thoughtsSubscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 270 Sean Sherk Early Years Sean Sherk has one of the most unique journeys to becoming a UFC World Champion. His departure from the sport has always been somewhat of a mystery; in this interview we discuss his path to being called World Champion. It is a powerful listen Ep 270 Sean Sherk Early years 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:39 interview start 2:08 departure from fighting 4:43 wrestling career 10:22 Jiu Jitsu match with Chris Brennan 11:47 dealings with Brad Kohler 14:26 Travis Wiuff 16:13 Sean Sherk vs Roscoe Ostyn19:10 training with Greg Nelson 22:28 Frank Shamrock not in UFC hall of fame23:26 Midwest mma Championship tournament 25:26 Extreme Challenge 2828:08 Sean Sherk vs Karo Parisyan33:09 Sean Sherk vs Karo Parisyan rematch 34:09 fighting with a full time job37:14 wrestling in high school 39:17 choosing to persue fighting 40:41 chasing the highs in life 43:38 getting the call from the UFC 46:50 getting the nick name “Juggernaut”47:40 Sean Sherk vs Tiki Goshen48:47 Sean Sherk vs Manny Gamburyan52:04 training with Matt Hughes 52:34 choosing not to train at MFS 54:10 getting into street fights 55:49 Sean Sherk vs Marty Armendarez1:00:48 training ground and pound 1:04:03 training partner Tom Schmitz1:05:05 Clint Class 1:06:09 Damian Hertz 1:07:04 cancelled bout with Jutaro Nakao1:09:47 Sean Sherk vs Curtis Brigham1:11:07 Sean Sherk vs Kiuma Kunioku1:17:38 Sean Sherk vs Claudionor Da Silva Fontinelle1:22:25 getting back into the UFC 1:27:12 Sean Sherk vs Jutaro Nakao1:28:33 Sean Sherk vs Benji Radach1:32:53 Sean Sherk vs John Alexander1:34:50 overcoming adversity 1:35:56 Sean Sherk vs Matt Hughes 1:38:13 getting cut from the UFC 1:40:11 retiring from fighting 1:44:07 co owning training mask 1:46:40 life after fighting 1:52:06 interview wrap up 1:53:37 outro/ closing thoughts Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #MikeDavis #MMAHistory #OldSchoolMMA #FiftyFightClub #MMAPodcast #FightPodcastSupport the show

Send us a textEp 269 Gene LeBell Tribute Gene LeBell is hard to describe in a few words 2x National Judo Champion, Pro Wrestler,  Shoot Fighter and internationally respected stuntman are just a few of the things that you can mention. Lebell Black Belts John Perretti and John Donehue reminisce about their training and life experiences about a man that made a profound impact on their lives. This is a must listen for true historians of combat sports Ep 269 Gene LeBell Tribute 0:00 plugs/ promotions 0:42 Lytes out intro 1:14 Joey Venti's guest introduction1:55 interview start 2:18 John Donahue meeting Gene LeBell 3:55 John Perretti meeting Gene LeBell 6:42 Gene LeBell dismissed as a martial artist 8:21 invitation to train at the “cabin” 10:11 training at Mark Lions garage 12:29 phone calls with Gene LeBell 15:20 Gene LeBell having special attributes 17:35 Lineage of Gene LeBell 18:49 2 sides of Gene LeBell 20:23 Gene LeBell vs Milo Savage23:04 difficulty training in Gene LeBell's class 28:00 Refereed Muhammad Ali vs Antonio Inoki32:43 John Donahue watching UFC 1 33:23 charged with accessory to murder38:31 judging at UFC 17 41:26 issues with Rorion Gracie 45:51 John Donahue favorite memory 50:01 John Perretti favorite memory 53:21 Mother Aileen Goldstein Eaton56:33 Kimura origin 58:20 John Perretti grappling language 1:00:20 thoughts on colligent wrestlers1:01:53 Gene LeBell's influence 1:04:13 credit stolen from Gene LeBell 1:06:27 finding daughter later in life 1:07:45 Gene LeBell knowing people were using him 1:09:10 black belts under Gene LeBell 1:17:13 Josh Barnett comment about Gene LeBell1:19:29 training with Chuck Norris1:21:35 choking out Steven Seagal1:23:25 hired as a Stunt coordinator 1:27:25 Gene LeBell black belt Silverado 1:30:26 training with Mondo Guererro1:31:39 push back for John Donahue reffing UFC1:34:42 Ronda Rousey tribute to Gene LeBell1:35:16 Gene LeBell hired for Fear factor show1:36:17 thoughts on Joe Charles 1:37:16 Gene LeBell's grip 1:41:33 saying good bye to Gene LeBell 1:46:17 wrestling bears 1:47:13 Donald Zuckerman story 1:49:36 why there was only 4 black belts 1:51:31 referring to a takedown as “tackle”1:55:03 John Perretti plugs/promotions 1:56:48 interview wrap up 2:04:24 outro/closing thoughts  Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@MMAHistoryPodcastDiscord:https://discord.gg/s3mV6wyNgvSocials: Facebook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbwInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/iTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Cash App - $mikedavis1231Venmo - Mike-Davis-63ZELLE: Cutthroatmma@gmail.com / ph#: 773-491-5052 Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: Chris Lytle - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle Mike Davis - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632 Joey Venti - Assistant - @aj_ventitreTyson Green - Producer - @ty.green.weldingAndrew Mendoza - Timestamps - @ambidexstressAndy Campbell - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_Josh Campbell - ContributerJohn Perretti - Historical ContributerOutro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetSupport the show