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Send us a textGrand Chief Willie Charlie of Sta'ailes First Nation says a much faster Additions-to-Reserve process will help communities prosper.He has seen the cost of long delays. Politicians have always promised to make ATRs go faster, but he says it's the bureaucracy at different levels that ruins the process.He spoke recently with host Richard Perry. We apologize that the sound quality is less than optimal but the conversation is a definite must-listen!LINKS:Sts'ailes First NationFirst Nations Land Management Resource CentreAdditions-to-Reserve Policy Redesign (Canada)

Send us a textJoin us in our continuing series on Canada's Additions-to-Reserve policy and how it's failing our First Nations communities.If you're unfamiliar with Additions to reserve - or ATR - it's the process through which Canada allows land to be added to a First Nation's reserve. But it's often a long, frustrating, and inefficient journey. In this episode with Melissa MacDonald of Membertou (NS) we'll explore why ATRs matter to First Nations, the opportunities they bring, and the challenges posed by a policy that Canada itself has acknowledged as broken. Please comment, provide a rating and share with your personal networks!LINKS:Membertou First Nations Land Management Resource CentreAdditions-to-Reserve Policy Redesign (Canada)

Send us a textJoseph Tootoosis is a lands and economic strategy advisor with a special interest in sovereignty, land restitution and redress. He also sees the need for a drastic overhaul in Canada's Additions-to-Reserve policy, a complicated process that hurts First Nations trying to add to their reserve land base.Why do ATRs matter to First Nations? What opportunities are Bands missing out on? How does adding land relate to Indigenous sovereignty?We address those questions in this podcast episode. Joseph and host Richard Perry begin by making the connection between land and the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.LINKS:Joseph Tootoosis on LinkedinFlying Dust First NationKekwetlem First NationFirst Nation Lands Management Resource CentreAdditions-to-Reserve Policy Redesign (Canada)

Lady! Are you ready to expand your horizons and tap into your spiritual side? Well, then come closer because we have the perfect guest to excite your imagination with tales of spiritual lore.Anita Kopacz is a lifelong storyteller. She's made a career bringing fun and interesting stories to life as the former Editor-in-Chief of Heart & Soul magazine and now she is the author of The Wind on Her Tongue. Anita welcomes the audience into a world where spirituality intersects with real world scenarios to create a compelling narrative you won't want to put down.In her page-turning book, Anita introduces her audience to the Orishas, spiritual deities that are most recognized in the African Traditional Religions (ATRs) of Ifa, Voudoo, and Hoodoo. Anita offers context about the ATRs and their importance in the African diasporic experience. She dispels some of the common myths and misconceptions regarding the ATRs and offers perspective on how some of the wisdom from the Orishas and the ATRs can provide insight into your life. Lady, whether you've promised yourself that you'll read more this year or you're asking yourself the big questions about the meaning of life and where our help comes from, we promise this is the episode for you. Let Anita's calm energy transport you to the deeper well that resides within you. And, you'll want to tune into the Aftershow this week. Dr. Dom and Terri offer a more in-depth peek into their creative process that can help spark your own. Dream big, lady! Quote of the Day:"No one is supposed to understand your calling. It wasn't a conference call." – Unknown  Goal Map Like a Pro WorkbookCultivating H.E.R. Space Sanctuary  Where to find Anita KopaczWebsite: Anita KopaczBook: The Wind on Her TongueInstagram: @anitakopaczFacebook: Anita KopaczTikTok: @anitakopacz2  Resources:Dr. Dom's Therapy PracticeBranding with TerriMelanin and Mental HealthTherapy for Black Girls Psychology TodayTherapy for QPOC  Where to find us:Twitter: @HERspacepodcastInstagram: @herspacepodcastFacebook: @herspacepodcastWebsite: cultivatingherspace.com

Rob Carver is back this week to discuss the importance of being able to detach yourself from the markets and taking “real” breaks from time to time and we also hear from Rob what it is like to let his systematic trading system run by itself whilst he enjoys a long summer holiday. We also discuss the underlying theory of macro momentum and how you can apply it to your own system, how he targets volatility in his portfolio and why Rob does not like using stop-losses to exit trades. We also touch on whether it's a good idea for Trump to create a U.S. Bitcoin strategic reserve, how ETFs really work and what they can bring to your portfolio, and whether or not buying one of the new CTA replication products is really the same as buying the underlying CTA index based on a recent paper from Transtrend.-----EXCEPTIONAL RESOURCE: Find Out How to Build a Safer & Better Performing Portfolio using this FREE NEW Portfolio Builder Tool-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT's TRUE ? – most CIO's read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Rob on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps: 01:18 - What has caught our attention recently?02:59 - How it feels to let your system run without you during holidays?10:45 - Industry performance update14:30 - Q1, Luis: What are your thoughts on Macro Momentum for retail traders?21:00 - Q2, Roman: How to best target portfolio volatility24:24 - Q3, Joshua: Which risk manament approach is best ATRs vs actual % of capital31:22 - Would a Bitcoin strategic reserve be a good idea?39:05 - A deep dive into ETFs48:52 - An example of a worst case scenario ETF53:13 - Can't we just buy a CTA index?59:29 -...

Portugal celebrou, esta semana, os 50 anos da revolução dos cravos que acabou com a ditadura de 48 anos através de um golpe militar do Movimento dos Capitães. O 25 de Abril abriu uma nova era para Portugal, mas também para as suas antigas colónias em África com as quais o regime salazarista estava em guerra. O 25 de Abril abriu uma nova era para Portugal, mas também para as suas antigas colónias em África com as quais o regime de Salazar estava em guerra há mais de dze anos. Poucos meses antes, a Guiné-Bissau tinha declarado unilateralmente independência, mas Portugal não tinha reconhecido a Guiné-Bissau como Estado livre.O antigo Presidente de Moçambique, Joaquim Chissano, na altura um combatente da Frelimo, partido que lutava pela independência do país, recorda esse dia histórico."Conhecíamos o estado de espírito das tropas portuguesas nesse ano, mas fomos surpreendidos pela rapidez com que a coisa se fez. Em 1974 ouvimos na rádio o anúncio do golpe de Estado em Portugal e nós ligamos isso talvez às manobras daqueles que queriam um outro tipo de descolonização. Portanto, não estava muito claro. Foi aquela reacção que nós tivemos de dizer 'bom pode haver um golpe de Estado em Portugal, mas isso não resolve o problema colonial.' Portanto, o que é preciso é resolver o problema colonial. A independência de Moçambique é que era o objectivo. Isso foi no próprio dia que alguns colegas camaradas que estavam perto comentaram e comentamos todos. Depois começámos todos os contactos e vimos que havia uma oportunidade boa para se chegar a um resultado bom. Portanto, estivemos sempre disponíveis para o diálogo com o novo governo. E assim foi. Portanto, quando isso aconteceu, ficamos com alegria, mas não tivemos a correspondência necessária na delegação portuguesa de então. E foi preciso então andar por uma série de contactos que nos levaram a uma segunda ronda e à última ronda, que foi a assinatura do Acordo de Lusaca. Isto encheu-nos de alegria. Mas foi de curta dura, porque no mesmo dia em que assinámos, houve sublevações aqui em Maputo, Lourenço Marques de então, e foi um momento dramático. Mas pronto, conseguimos acalmar os ânimos. Então proclamamos a independência em 75" lembra o antigo Presidente.Pedro Pires, antigo presidente de Cabo Verde e um dos lideres da luta de libertação da Guiné e de Cabo Verde, no seio do PAIGC, considera que 25 de Abril foi um marco importante para Portugal mas também para a descolonização."O 25 de Abril é dos acontecimentos históricos mais importantes que tiveram lugar em Portugal no século XX. Porque eu vejo nas minhas reflexões há um antes de 25 de Abril e um depois do 25 de Abril. Não será o primeiro caso, mas é o caso mais importante da história política de Portugal. No 25 de Abril, eu pessoalmente era membro da direcção do PAIGC e acompanhamos com muito interesse os acontecimentos, mas os acontecimentos não foram uma surpresa para nós, porque sabia-se que Portugal estava mergulhado numa grande crise, numa crise militar, numa crise política, numa crise económica e financeira, causados pela guerra colonial. Veja um caso interessante para se ter em conta que o chefe de Estado maior é o chefe adjunto do Estado-maior entraram em conflito com o poder político, com o Presidente da República e com o Governo nessa altura. Francamente, eu penso que o Governo e as outras instituições do Estado tinham perdido legitimidade e credibilidade. Portanto, estava aberto o caminho para uma mudança do regime" começa por considerar o antigo Presidente de Cabo Verde.Em Cabo Verde,o primeiro-ministro respondeu ao Presidente da República que no início da semana considerou “caótica” a situação de transportes interilhas no país.  No Parlamento, Ulisses Correia e Silva, disse que o “caos” nos transportes em Cabo Verde existia até 2016, quando o actual Presidente da República, José Maria Neves, era o chefe do Governo.“Estamos empenhados em melhorar e vamos melhorar significativamente. Mas é preciso dizer que o caos nos transportes aéreos e marítimos já existia. Existia até 2016, com aviões arrestados, com TACV em falência, com TACV sem os ATRs, com navios a naufragarem de uma forma permanente, com operadores com navios obsoletos e sem capacidade operacional. O caos tem o seu momento de localização muito claro e tem os seus responsáveis. Os mesmos que criaram o caos, hoje falam de caos nos transportes. É preciso confiança neste país, é preciso garantir que perante situações de dificuldades não se lance gasolina, explosivos para criar ainda um ambiente muito mais difícil para os cabo-verdianos” disse Ulisses Correia e Silva, numa intervenção no parlamento, no arranque do debate sobre a descentralização e desenvolvimento local.Recorde-se que o Presidente da República José Maria Neves afirmou que a situação dos transportes aéreos em Cabo Verde é "caótica" e tem prejudicado o país. Antes do anúncio oficial, o presidente do PAICV, maior partido da oposição, já tinha anunciado que a companhia angolana BestFly ia sair do país.Em Moçambique, a missão da Comunidade de Desenvolvimento da África Austral (SAMIM) que combate o terrorismo em Cabo Delgado, já começou a entregar material às Forças Armadas moçambicanas, no âmbito do plano de retirada até 15 de Julho, segundo aquela força. Apesar deste plano de saída, o Presidente sul-africano, Cyril Ramaphosa, estendeu até 31 de Dezembro a operação das Forças Armadas da África do Sul (SANDF), com cerca de 1500 militares, no combate ao terrorismo em Cabo Delgado, norte de Moçambique, que até agora estava integrado na SAMIM.Na Guiné-Bissau, o Ministério Público anunciou a detenção de um procurador por alegado tráfico de droga à chegada a Lisboa num voo proveniente de Bissau. O Ministério Público adiantou estar a acompanhar o caso e a aguardar por mais informações e, caso “se confirmar o suposto delito”, promete responsabilizar criminalmente e disciplinarmente o magistrado.Esta semana, assinalou-se o dia mundial de luta contra a malária e acordo com a Organização Mundial da Saúde, em 2022, mais de 608 mil pessoas morreram todo mundo, com o continente africano a ser o mais fustigado, apesar dos efeitos prometedores das campanhas de vacinação. Ainda assim, Angola registou em 2023 uma diminuição de mortes por malária

Welcome to episode 402 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast, brought to you this week by Lowa. This week Lowa Ambassador Max Seigal and his race partner Russell Henry share their 1st Adventure Race experience with us as they took 1st place in the recent Expedition Colorado Race put on by Warrior Adventure Racing. The race involved kayaking, mountain biking and running at elevations between 13,000 and 10,000 feet . . . Max and Russell were wearing Lowa's recently released Trail Running models from their All Terrain Running Collection. The ATR collection represents another milestone in Lowa's nearly 100 years of product development. Now . . . it's time to run. Welcome to episode 402 of The Outdoor Biz Podcast, brought to you this week by Lowa Boots.     This week Lowa Ambassador Max Seigal and his race partner Russell Henry share their 1st Adventure Race experience with us as they took 1st place in the recent Expedition Colorado Race put on by Warrior Adventure Racing. The race involved kayaking, mountain biking, and running at elevations between 13,000 and 10,000 feet . . . Max and Russell were wearing Lowa's recently released Trail Running models from their All Terrain Running Collection. The ATR collection represents another milestone in Lowa's nearly 100 years of product development. Now . . . it's time to run. Show Notes 00:02:2000:02:27 The Wandering Biologist: "So after college, I actually sorted all the jobs that I was looking for based on location first..."— Max Seigal 00:03:1000:03:14 Outdoor Adventures: "I grew up on the West Coast of British Columbia with Aaron...and my dad owned an outdoor store, Ocean River Sports and started a Kayak company, "— Russell Henry 00:05:2600:05:35 The Power of Nature: "Once you put me in the mountains or and these really beautiful and remote places. It's you just you can't describe that feeling you get. It's amazing."— Max Seigal 00:06:4500:07:07 The Thrill of Paddling White Water: "I find spending time on rivers and paddling white water to be such a full-bodied experience. It's just with, like, you're fully immersed in it... It's the contrast of the whole thing of getting ready for the river beforehand, then you do the crazy thing and you're in there and you're scared and it's thundering, and it's like wet and cooled. And then afterwards, you get off the river, and now it's baking hot, and you take your dry suit off and your love and life, and you're there with your best friends."— Russell Henry 00:08:3300:08:47 The Love for Individual Sports: "Once you're done with your high school sports days, it's like you gotta figure something else out and that's when I really started falling in love with just getting out and, you know, running and hiking and camping and mountain all these sort of individual sports that I still really love."— Max Seigal 00:09:2300:09:41 Trail Running Shoes: "And this new lineup of, their ATRs is is just released this year. It's kind of their more trail running approach. And I've been really excited for this for a long time because, you know, you can only do so much in a hiking shoe of running shoes. Now you're like, you get the trifecta. You can get out and do it all."— Max Seigal 00:11:2600:11:40 Adventure Racing: "Adventure racing, it's kind of, funny sport in that You're basically out in the woods for set amount of time on a really big scavenger hunt."— Russell Henry 00:12:48:04 The Power of Pushing Limits: "Just keep going. Like, I think people think it's amazing that we can do this kind of race or that adventure racers do this stuff. But really, if you're an enough person outdoorsy, just like you'll you can just As long as you don't sit down too often, you just your body will keep going if you keep feeling it and and you can do some amazing things."— Russell Henry 00:18:0100:18:11 Foot Care Regime for Races: "They sand all the calluses off their feet, basically leading up to the race, and then they're moisturizing and moisturizing with salt through the night. basically trying to make their feet as soft as they can."— Russell Henry 00:27:0600:27:12 Struggling with Overeating during a Race: "I think I ate too much food. I'm like, so tired. My stomach hurts."— Max Seigal 00:28:5600:29:03 Altitude Troubles: I just, like, started feeling the altitude so heavily and was not in a good place."— Russell Henry 00:29:4900:29:53 Sleep Deprivation and Altitude Sickness: 'I was a total wreck and then eventually got back on my bike'"— Russell Henry 00:32:1100:32:12 The Challenges of Sleep Deprivation in Endurance Races: "I did not sleep at all."— Max Seigal 00:32:3700:33:01 Sleeping through the pain: "I guess this is over. And we're kinda done. But, Russ, I think if I can sit up and sleep, like, maybe I can get an hour of sleep sitting up and Let's see if that works. So we set our alarms for, like, another hour and a half, and he sat up and somehow he, like, slept for an hour. And woke up, and he's like, alright. I guess we're gonna keep going. And so -- Wow."— Max Seigal 00:37:0000:37:24 Adventuring with Friends: "We just wanted to do something together. We wanted to meet up and go on an adventure. And my new Max was a crusher in the mountains, so I think if I can't remember me or him found the race, but then we just said this is perfect. Let's like because also when we were working together on the ship, week on this polar tourism ship together. Last thing, Max was helping me train for an adventure race that I did in May. So I was running in the gym with him, and he we were doing things together. So it was kinda cool to then get to do one with him."— Russell Henry 00:37:3500:37:42 Scheduling: "The issue is we both live very busy and kind of, opposite lives right now in terms of scheduling."— Max Seigal 00:38:3000:39:15 Top Adventure Racing Events to Aim For: I think having [Expedition Oregon] as a goal to try to do well in would be really cool."— Russell Henry 00:39:4900:40:02 Adventure Racing: "There's so many little adventure racing intricacies of, like, things we've talked about, like, foot care and how do you hydrate and how often do you sleep and how do you sleep and all these little things that you learn."— Russell Henry 00:44:4800:44:59 The Power of Teammate Bonding: "Honestly, to me, the most important thing is having that teammate or your teammates that kind of inspire you, but also that you just have great banter with and kind of love to hang out with...I was just like, what's with my buddy? I was like, here we are. Just chit chatting and walking and biking and having a good time. And, like, that to me made it just so much more fun..."— Max Seigal 00:47:2100:47:34 Adventure Race: "Honestly, it was like, one of the best weeks of my life, you know, just you're discovering things about yourself. You're discovering, like, how hard you can push yourself? How hard you can go without sleep? how long you can bike and run in the mountains. And, you know, chemistry with a person, like, for that much time, it's just so much discovery, and it's a really good feeling to finish up and be like, wow. I just learned a lot about myself."— Max Seigal Suggestions or advice for someone wanting to do their first adventure race or get into adventure racing Max: I'd say go for it. Adventure race. This was my first one. Russell had done a couple and he's like, dude, let's try this. I had no idea what to expect, but honestly, it was like one of the best weeks of my life. Russell: Just look it up. And I think once you look it up, you see that there's actually lots of races around. You can sign up for something small to start. You can do something small to see if you like it. Favorite piece of Outdoor Gear under $100 Max- the most important things I think are like a good pair of shoes that you can run a lot of miles in and then not get blisters that fit your feet. Russell- outdoor research sun shirt men's, women's Follow up: with Max: www.maxwilderness.com with Russell: instagram.com/russellfrederickhenry/   Love the show? Subscribe, Rate, Review, and Share!

Richmond International Airport has earned the Most Efficient Airport in North America award from the Air Transport Research Society for North American airports with fewer than 5 million passengers annually. The award was announced July 2 at the organization's 26th World Conference in Kobe, Japan. It was RIC's first win from ATRS, recognized as one of the most reputable aviation research societies in the world. The organization gives four efficiency awards for North American airports; the others are for airports with 5 million to 15 million annual passengers; 15 million to 40 million annual passengers; and more than 40 million...Article LinkSupport the show

Hetep (Peace). Join Mwt Nekhbet as we continue to review cultural conduct through the foundation that is Ma'at from the ATRS of Kemetic living. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/houseofnekhbet/message

Let's get into the serious, yet sumptuous topic of Places of Power-which is the practice of accessing, honoring, and making requests of Spirits of Place. You might want to listen with a notepad for this one because we go over the what, hows, and whys of Places of Power (Ocean, Rivers, the Forrest as well as the big daddies, like the Crossroads and Graveyard) that are so prominent and important to our practice. And big topics deserve a big investment of time. Listen in and listen well, this one will be an instant classic.    Listen and Subscribe to THE NEW HOODOO podcast on Apple Podcasts,  Spotify, Google Podcasts, and your favorite podcast platforms.   FOLLOW & CONNECT WITH US on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and Youtube! EMAIL US a question at pillarsporchpath@gmail.com.  Links for HALICUE HANNA Tarot Pro &  Intuitive Arts Creator www.thegildedapsara.com Book a Tarot Session! Instagram: @thegildedapsara TikTok: @thebougiehoodoo     Links for ANDI ANDERSON Intuitive Chandler & Silversmith www. talulehohoyo.com Shop the Collection!  Instagram: @talulehohoyo TikTok: @talulehohoyo  

Welcome back to another episode on Styx and Bones with your ghost hosts Chelsea and Tenn!! Today we have a very special episode and we're welcoming our guest and initiated practitioner Pocahotnassz aka Poca! Poca discussed what ATRs are, what is actually closed, Santeria, the Orishas and more in this episode of Styx and Bones. Poca also discusses her biggest spiritual mistakes, advice for new practitioners and what does her path actually entail. We're asking all your burning questions about ATR and shoutout and a big thank YOU to Poca for being so open and teaching us about her practice and beliefs. Poca's Socials and Store: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pocahotnassz_ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pocahotnassz Instagram and Store: https://www.instagram.com/pocasspirit... Interested in studying and growing your gifts in psychic mediumship?! We just came out with our beginners self-guided course - Foundations 1: Psychic Mediumship and You check it out here! Don't forget to like, subscribe and rate our podcast! Watch Us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOUtwmf9GyCBGmB-nk_bQ4w Styx and Bones Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/styxandbonespodcast/ Shop our store Styx and Bones the Store: https://www.instagram.com/styxandbonesstore/ Chelsea's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/clchthonicwitch/ Music by LiteSaturation --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/evoking-cmc/support

In today's conversation with Femi the Divine, host of the Divine Healing Podcast, we discus manifesting from a practical standpoint, a magical standpoint, discuss rituals, African Diasporic / African Traditional Religions, the power of living a lifestyle of spirituality for manifesting and more. Instagram.com/femithedivineTheDivineHealingPodcast.comFemi Bio:Hello! I am Femi the Divine. I am a spiritualist, a holistic life coach, an oracle reader, and the host of The Divine Healing Podcast. My background is rooted in African/Diasporic Traditional Religious Practices and I help people learn to walk in their power through the use of holistic healing modalities. —----------Dani Faust is a certified Life Coach, Intuitive Energy Healer and Spiritual Teacher currently based in South Florida and holds certifications in EFT, Meditation, Reiki, NLP and Hypnotherapy.Get YOUR question answered on the show: bit.ly/askcoachdaniSign Up for the FREE 5-Day Manifesting Breakthrough Challenge!!Hang out with me in the free Manifest It Sis Facebook Group! If you're ready to work with me visit Calendly.com/coachdanifaust to get on my calendar for a reading, hypno session or book a chemistry call for 1:1 coaching.Want to manifest MONEY? – The Money Manifesting Magic Course can be found here: bit.ly/MMMForever (Podcast listeners get $111 off with code “podcast”)  New To Manifesting? – Take the mini course: Ask Believe Receive today! (bit.ly/abrminicourse)I'd love it if you subscribe and leave a review on apple podcasts if you dig the show!Buy Dani a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/danifaust(Thank you for your generosity. I appreciate your support more than you know!)I'm reachable at: dani@okdani.comFollow @TheDaniFaust on instagramDani Faust on youtubeDaniFaust.comThank you for listening! See you next week!Support the show

The image of the serpent, specifically the African Python has become synonymous with various religions, traditions and depictions of spirits or deities. The image of the Python is present with depictions of Mami Wata, Damballah, The Baron, Ochumare, The Biblical Eve, and is the consistent representation for all things occult. What is the origin of Python veneration , how did it begin , where did it start and why? How does an animal with no natural relation to the Americas, become so engulfed in ATRS and African American spirituality. Today on Hoodoo and Chill we visit the origins of African Ophiolatry also known as Python worship and its correlation with American Hoodoo / Voodoo culture.Support the show Follow @PapaSeer On IG Book A Reading With Papa Seer Join The Discord Server (Conjure Square Group Chat ) Classes Shop Follow Us On Clubhouse Donate To Our Podcast Show Credits Producer - @PapaSeer Writer - @PapaSeer Editor- @Papa Seer

In this episode, Cargo Facts Editor Jeff Lee and Associate Editors Andrew Crider and Robert Luke discuss a potential new regional cargo operator in South Korea, with Hi Air planning to use as many as six ATR 72-500Fs. The airline will pair up with a company called Caelum that is looking to convert ATRs to start, but which may even move on to A321s and A330s. The team then turns to regional growth in Southeast Asia, with Vietnam, Indonesia and Malaysia all featuring in Cargo Facts stories this week.

Although magic is foundational to African traditional religions (ATRs), it is probably one of the most misunderstood subjects within such practices. It is a topic that both intrigues and scares onlookers and observers. And, it often confuses and frustrates new devotees. So, what is magic all about it? How does it work? And, why do we use it? Find out all about this topic in this episode in which I discuss the basics of magic and manifestation in African spiritual systems. Check Out Our Products and Services!!! CONNECTING WITH YOUR ANCESTORS: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGPX6RYV HAITIAN VODOU DIVINATION: https://asanee44.com/product-category/vodou-readings/ IFA (ORISHA) DIVINATION: https://asanee44.com/product-category/ifa-divination/ IFA PRODUCTS & SERVICES: https://asanee44.com/product-category/ifa-products-services/ SPIRITUAL COACHING SERVICES: https://asanee44.com/product-category/spiritual-coaching/ GINEN STORE: https://www.ginenstore.com/ SUPPORT: https://anchor.fm/african-spirit/support --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/african-spirit/message

Today, we are joined by Jerry Parker to discuss how recessions affect current trends and returns for Trend Followers, how to use ATR to determine the initial stop and when to switch to using a trailing stop for your position. We also discuss if it's possible to achieve comparable performance when investing through a public or private fund. Finally we turn to a few imporant topics like how “alts” or "alternatives" mean different things to different people, the Commodity Super Cycle and how it can create a false narrative, how Trend Following adapts to market regimes and much more. ---- ---- Follow Niels on https://twitter.com/toptraderslive (Twitter), https://www.linkedin.com/in/nielskaastruplarsen (LinkedIn), https://www.youtube.com/user/toptraderslive (YouTube) or via the https://www.toptradersunplugged.com/ (TTU website). IT's TRUE ? – most CIO's read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written https://www.toptradersunplugged.com/Ultimate (here). And you can get a free copy of my latest book “The Many Flavors of Trend Following” https://www.toptradersunplugged.com/flavor (here). Learn more about the Trend Barometer https://www.toptradersunplugged.com/resources/market-trends/ (here). Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.com And please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on https://www.toptradersunplugged.com/reviewttu (iTunes) or https://open.spotify.com/show/2OnOvLbIV3AttbFLxuoaBW (Spotify) so more people can discover the podcast. Follow Jerry on https://my.captivate.fm/@RJParkerJr09 (Twitter). Episode TimeStamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:57 - Market overview 09:42 - Q1, Andre: What to expect after a good run in Trend Following returns 13:51 - Q2, Ryan: How to use Average True Range (ATR) 27:05 - Q3, David: Performance in public mutual funds vs. offshore funds 32:07 - Q4, Paul: When to switch from Initial to Trailing stop and sizing your position 39:56 - Q5, Victor: How did Jerry manage to give back 200 ATRs in TESLA? 47:17 - Q6, Victor: How to Allocate your Risk Budget to avoid running out of cash? 53:41 - The different meatnings of “Alts” when it comes to investing 01:02:04 - Commodity Super Cycles - a false narrative? 01:09:51 - How Trend Following adapts to ever chaning market regimes 01:13:02 - What to expect from Trend Following in the long run 01:18:37 - Industry performance update Copyright © 2022 – CMC AG – All Rights Reserved ---- PLUS: Whenever you're ready... here are 3 ways I can help you in your investment Journey: 1. eBooks that cover key topics that you need to know about In my eBooks, I put together some key discoveries and things I have learnt during the more than 3 decades I have worked in the Trend Following industry, which I hope you will find useful. https://www.toptradersunplugged.com/resources/ebooks/ (Click Here) 2. Daily Trend Barometer and Market Score One of the things I'm really proud of, is the fact that I have managed to published the Trend Barometer and Market Score each day for more than a decade...as these tools are really good at describing the environment for trend following managers as well as giving insights into the general positioning of a trend following strategy! https://www.toptradersunplugged.com/resources/market-trends/ (Click Here) 3. Other Resources that can help you And if you are hungry for more useful resources from the trend following world...check out some precious resources that I have found over the years to be really valuable. https://www.toptradersunplugged.com/resources/ (Click Here) https://www.toptradersunplugged.com/legal/privacy-policy/ (Privacy Policy) https://www.toptradersunplugged.com/disclaimer/ (Disclaimer)

Meet N'Delamiko Bey. My spiritual Aunty and dear friend. Who happens to be a Priestess and inducted into two ATRs. She's mermaid, a conjurer, an awesome mom, crowned Dos Augas of Yemaya y Oshun, a no nonsense Goddess, a witch, born and made of magic. This episode isn't an interview, as much as it is a youngin asking her Aunty about her story that we are sharing with you all. To find out more about her, check the show notes, get your websites done, hire her as journalist, get some beautiful waist beads… meet my Aunty Big Mami, Miko Bey. Links: https://www.thegoddessroom.com theafrofairygoddess.com https://www.patreon.com/theafrofairygoddess https://twitter.com/afrofairygodess theafrofairygoddesspodcast@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/theafrofairygoddess/message

As a practitioner of two African spiritual systems, I absolutely enjoy my practice. I encourage others who are drawn to these systems to see what they are all about. African traditional religions (ATRs) are vast and intricate systems that have been around for thousands of years and have stood the test of time. There are many wonderful benefits of embracing African spirituality. However, there are also a few drawbacks. Like any other religious or spiritual practice, African spirituality is not perfect. It is wrought with challenges and obstacles that anyone should consider before embarking on such a journey. In this episode, I discuss a few drawbacks of these systems from the perspective of a practitioner and spiritual coach. So, join me as I share some of the pitfalls of practicing African spirituality. Check Out Our Products and Services!!! CONNECTING WITH YOUR ANCESTORS: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGPX6RYV HAITIAN VODOU DIVINATION: https://asanee44.com/product-category/vodou-readings/ IFA (ORISHA) DIVINATION: https://asanee44.com/product-category/ifa-divination/ IFA PRODUCTS & SERVICES: https://asanee44.com/product-category/ifa-products-services/ SPIRITUAL COACHING SERVICES: https://asanee44.com/product-category/spiritual-coaching/ GINEN STORE: https://www.ginenstore.com/ SUPPORT: https://anchor.fm/african-spirit/support --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/african-spirit/message

What does it mean to reintegrate or restore African spirituality? The knowledge, wisdom, and overstanding inherent in African traditional religions (ATRs) as many components and moving parts. The knowledge of African people groups has been spread throughout the world prior to, during, and after colonization and slavery. Likewise, it has critical information about our spiritual systems. While much of the knowledge still remains on the continent, there is vital information that we don't have access to as African people. This episode will explore the many reasons why it is important to restore and reunite our spiritual systems in the modern world. Che Check Out Our Products and Services!!! CONNECTING WITH YOUR ANCESTORS: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGPX6RYV HAITIAN VODOU DIVINATION: https://asanee44.com/product-category/vodou-readings/ IFA (ORISHA) DIVINATION: https://asanee44.com/product-category/ifa-divination/ IFA PRODUCTS & SERVICES: https://asanee44.com/product-category/ifa-products-services/ SPIRITUAL COACHING SERVICES: https://asanee44.com/product-category/spiritual-coaching/ GINEN STORE: https://www.ginenstore.com/ SUPPORT: https://anchor.fm/african-spirit/support --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/african-spirit/message

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In the aftermath of Hurricane Ida, Lyvonne explores life lessons and spiritual insight based on Zora Neale Hurston's "Their Eyes Were Watching God." How do we feel present in our bodies if we're evacuated from our home? Tune in for spiritual insights to take with you for the Sensual Faith journey! My Website: www.LyvonneBriggs.comPatreon: www.Patreon.com/LyvonneBriggsCoaching: www.Calendly.com/LyvonneBriggsCourses: www.LyvonneBriggs.Podia.comTarot card readings: www.Calendly.com/LyvonneBriggsInstagram: @LyvonneBriggs Twitter: @LyvonneBriggsTikTok: @LyvonneBriggsYoutube: Lyvonne Proverbs BriggsZelle: Lyvonne.Briggs@gmail.comVenmo: @LyvonneP Paypal: Paypal.me/LyvonnePCash App: $PastorBaeCredits:Hosted by Lyvonne BriggsProduced by Kacia Huynh and Porsha Williams Gates of Porshanality Media, LLCEditing and sound mixing by Kacia Huynh of Porshanality Media, LLCMusic from “Be Your Girlfriend (Instrumental Version)” by Lil' Loca

Hello beautiful souls, in this episode we talk about going into different ritualistic ceremonial practices with intention. There are so many ceremonies happening on a daily basis and how often is reverence cultivated? Let's talk about it as we dive into this fascinating topic.So much love! Xowww.soulxo.online

Update – What's happening with the ATRS case? On this week's episode, Kyle tries his chops as lead host and Dustin, from Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply, joins the SFR crew to update everyone about the ATRS vs RCMP FRT/GOV court case. Plus we chat about the Springfield Sports Club vs. CFO court case and appeal… … Continue reading Episode 408 – Dustin Timmins – Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply → The post Episode 408 – Dustin Timmins – Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply appeared first on Slam Fire Radio.

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Part two of the finale episode of Mama Rue’s Ancestral Musings. WARNING: This podcast contains language that may not be suitable for younger listeners. Content includes discussion on spiritual abuses. Listener discretion is advised.

Father and son team, the Duanes are the founders of Air Chathams Air Chathams is not your typical airline.This family-owned airline is the only operator in the world that would give you the chance to fly a regular flight on a 1950s, Convair 580 aircraft. And, as it if this was not enough, you can round-up the experience by visiting one of the most remote inhabited outposts in the planet: the Chatham Islands, a tiny archipelago (pop.400) several hundred miles off the east coast of New Zealand. The Convair 580, a rare 1950s airliner that Air Chathams still operates on regular services….but not for long! Think that New Zealand is at the edge of the World? You can actually go a bit further and reach the Chatham Islands, some 400 miles off the east coast of New Zealand, where the South Pacific meets the Antarctic Ocean But Air Chathams has also an eclectic fleet that combines vintage aircraft, such as the Convairs and a WW2-era DC-3 that is used on charter flights, with a modern fleet of turboprops for different sorts of air services in and around New Zealand (they also fly to another fascinating remote outpost Norfolk Island!).I called Duane Emeny, the current Chief Operating Officer at Air Chathams and second-generation of the founding family, all the way across 12 time zones in order to talk about this rather unique airline business, about the Chatham Islands and, more generally, about what it takes to run an airline that operates 19140s and 1950s aircraft.Check it out! Download this episode on:Apple Podcasts / iTunes, Spotify, Google Podcasts or StitcherThings we talk about in this episode:The fascinating story of Air ChathamsWhere are the Chatham Islands and how are they likeOperating a vintage airliner: the Convair 580 and the DC-3Air Chathams modern fleet: ATR-72, Saab 340, Fairchild MetrolineAir Chathams airline venture in the Kingdom of TongaAir Chathams flights within New Zealand and to Norfolk IslandHow to book a flight on a Convair 580The future of the Convair vintage fleetResourcesAir Chathams website, in case you wish to book your Convair 580 flight!My article on CNN about vintage airliners you can still fly, featuring Air Chathams’ Convair 580The Chatham IslandsNorfolk Island Convair 580Douglas DC-3 The cabin interior of the Air Chathams DC-3 One of Air Chathams Fairchild Metroliners Podcast Music: Five Armies by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3762-five-armiesLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Interview Transcript (please note that, although we strive to make it as close as possible to the original recording, the transcript may not be 100% accurate)Hello and welcome to the Allplane Podcast, where, every week, we explore different aspects of the aviation industry in the company of some of its most experienced, knowledgeable professionalsIn order to record this episode I had to wake up way earlier than usual, since there was a twelve hour time difference with the time zone where today’s guest is based, but I think it was well worth it...Because, today on the show, we are joined by the manager of a very, very unique airline…Air Chathams is a unique airline, both because of the composition of its fleet and its networkIt is the only airline left in the world to operate a fleet of 1950s Convair 580 aircraft on regular commercial services.It is also unique because they act as a lifeline and link to the rest of the world, for one of the most remote and isolated communities anywhere in this planet, the Chathams Islands, a tiny archipelago several hundred miles off the coast of New Zealand, located right in the middle of the so called “roaring forties” where the South Pacific and Antarctic Ocean meet. But also, because Air Chathams is a family affair that has grown organically over the last three decades to cover a network of very interesting destinations in and around New ZealandDuane Emeny, our guest today, is the second generation at the helm of Air Chathams.We are going to talk about what it takes to build an airline in this part of the world, the story of its vintage fleet, which includes also a WW2-era DC-3, as well as the modern part of its fleet and the plans he holds for the future of this airline and, more generally, about the uniqueness of the destinations they fly to.Without further ado, let me welcome Duane to the podcast!-Hello, Duane! how are you? -Very good. How are you? -Very good. So you are joining us today from literally the other side of the world, from Auckland, New Zealand-Auckland, New Zealand.-Although you are additionally a while your company is originally based in an archipelago, it's even more remote than New Zealand and it's called the Chatham Islands and it’s 400 miles east of New Zealand's East Coast, right?-That is correct. It's a very isolated island population 400 nautical miles off the east coast of mainland New Zealand place called the Chatham Islands and yeah, it's an island population that really has a very strong fishing and agricultural industry, so to predominantly export export products into mainland New Zealand and internationally. So it's a small island A small population that it actually has a very large GDP per capita based on the products that are harvested.-And I guess your airline plays a role in this export activity, because you basically and that's the reason we have you here is that you operate the local airline in the islands. And that's an airline that caught my eye. A couple of years ago when I was writing an article for CNN about vintage airliners that are still operating. And I came across this airline called air chasms that you're still operating one of the few if not the only one. The only Convair 580 that is still operational, right. So that's a 1950s aircraft. You also have a DC-3 and then you have some other more modern aircraft like an ATR and I think some sign up turboprops as well. So can you please tell us a little bit about this airline and how it started and the type of very original unique fleet that you have.-Yeah, absolutely no problem. So, yeah, it is. It is a very unique year line that we operate. The airline started in 1984 is my father Craig that started the company. He was actually living on the Chatham Islands. He was working for another very small airline at the time, and providing a service between the islands there's a main island, which is called Chatham, and then there's another small island called Pitt Island, and there are fishing communities on both of those islands. So his job at the time was making sure that the islands were connected and could go backwards and forwards using a Cessna 185, a very small airplane. And he would land on all sorts of grassy strips on both islands and transport cargo and yeah, as I say, people and everything you can imagine actually. So, you know, he spent a lot of time on the Chatham Islands and he got to know the people and he could see that there were some real issues getting produce into the mainland of New Zealand. The service at the time was very unreliable. It was subsidized by the government, but it was quite infrequent. And as I say, the reliability was affected for a number of reasons...weather...it was difficult getting to the Chatham Islands, because of its remoteness. And also, ultimately, because it was a subsidized service. the priorities of the airline providing that service was really elsewhere in their own network. -So can I stop you here for a second, because I wanted to ask you about the islands as I checked a little bit about how they are. Do you have about 600 people living there? Something like that?-Yeah, that's right. So the resident population currently is 600.-It’s 6-0-0, not 600,000...-Yeah. So that's to give an idea to our audience of how such a, this is such a, it's not just remote, but it's also kind of a small place. So it's, it's just like a village in many ways, right?-Absolutely, it's a community where everyone knows everyone. You know, it's made up of a number of large family groups really, and and you know, those those family groups held back to the first settlers of the island in the US Like 100 sites, it is a very small community, very close community and I'm very proud community-And how are the islands? Like, what sort of environment there is a lot? -It's very rugged, very rugged landscape. It's part of the, what we call the roaring 40s. So it's 40 degrees latitude. And, and that brings some reasonably strong weather. We have, you know, very strong winds. The temperatures do get very cold, although we don't really have anything in the way of like heavy snow or frost. But it is quite cold with the Windchill, the windchill factor from the south is very cold because basically there's no there's no there's nothing between Antarctica and us when it comes to the wind. So it does play some challenges living on the island and it certainly poses some challenges operating aeroplanes. -Mm hmm. Interesting. So I'm gonna post the link. Well, a few links if I can find some and transcript on the, on the show notes so that people can see how they look like I just had a look on on the internet earlier. And I found it really, really interesting. I really have a thing for this sort of unique remote, places. So that's something definitely to check out. But I interrupted you when you were explaining the story of the airline. So basically, your father realized that there was a market gap, or there was a need in the islands for better connections to the New Zealand mainland, right. -Correct. And that's what he said. Yeah, he found that. Yeah, yeah. The, you know, with the help of the, the Chatham Islands people and some of the you know, He developed a relationship with during his time there, he was able to invest in a very small aircraft It was a Cessna 337 so they had a nickname called a push me pull you there was a centerline thrust the aircraft with one engine at the back and one in the front. So effectively It was a multi engine aircraft but on a single line thrust and any use any aircraft between Chatham Islands and pit Island but he also started flying Chad up into mainland New Zealand to a place called De Guzman and in Napier, which is on the Hawke's Bay and the east coast of the North Island of New Zealand.-Hmm, I'm just checking now these aircraft Cessna 337. That's quite an interesting configuration, as you said, when you went into the front, one at the back-That's right. So yeah, well, it's sort of they work at the same time both engines are. Okay, now they always had one And I guess if one stopped then you, you know, you still had one left, but I don't think it would get you very far.-Interesting. I'm gonna post the link as well on the show notes. -So, then you said that the small airline was a one aircraft airline. And I'm from there he kept growing it...-Yeah, basically the demand for products of the island grew and, then, as it grew...And ultimately, you know, that takes us through to 1996. When we purchased our first Convair 580. And that was when we introduced that airplane into our fleet.-And what did you get this Convair aircraft because that was already by the late 90s. That was already kind of vintage. I mean, that aircraft was flying already for 50 years, since the 50s and we could say it's one of the last large piston engine aircraft, right? -Yeah, well, I mean, they all came out originally as piston radial aircraft. The one that we purchased in 1996 for the Chatham Islands was actually a Convair 340 variant with the piston radial engines. And then in the, I think it was throughout the mid 60s, that's when Convair started to retrofit the aircraft, with the Ellison propeller engines and that's really what, you know, ultimately was making those aircraft so popular with a lot of regional airlines throughout the United States and actually through Europe as well. So and, and you know, I mean, you're quite right, I mean to be introducing an aircraft like that in 1996...it certainly already had quite a life. I'm not I'm not entirely up to date with the full history of the aircraft we now call ZK-CIB, which is New Zealand registration. But it certainly did have an exciting life and had just one, one little mishap, I believe it was on takeoff where the aircraft was was departing on quite an icy runway and it actually came off the runway and the propeller went through the side fuselage, I think was a left hand prop detach and went through the side fuselage and almost right the aircraft off. So, you know, it was salvaged from the air and carried on flying and eventually ended up on, you know, one of the remotest islands in the world...-And how did you procure this aircraft? Where did you find it? -Yeah, it was a little bit before me, but Well, I mean, I was around, quite a bit younger, but my father went over to Canada, there's a place called Kelowna and they were actually retrofitting these aircraft. So they were buying existing hulls and they were converting them into these combi aircraft. So, effectively a combination of passenger and freight and, and also installing a large hydraulic cargo door on the rear side of the fuselage. So it could actually take a pelletized loading system using tag ons and flat pellets with straps in it so that that's really the key to it was that it allowed for the Chatham Island service you could run as a you know, it could be a full passenger aircraft carrying 39 people or it could be converted within one hour to a full freight aircraft and carry, you know, just under seven ton or you could decide to have it multiple configurations of, you know, 21 passengers with four and a half ton of freight, or a 31 passenger combination with around about two and a half ton of freight. So, it was a very versatile aircraft. And that's why it was so effective on the Chatham Islands.-And right now you operate it in which configuration? Or you're also changing all the time?-Yeah, all the time. We're changing it. Yeah. So depending on what the demand is, if it's a larger group that wants to come out to visit the island, and we get that quite a bit during the summer, then we'll run it as a full freight aircraft. Or if it's, you know...if the fish factories on the Chatham Islands have got a lot of product that they need to export quickly, they'll contact us and we'll fly it out as a full full freighter, so it's constantly being moved between configurations. -So you're flying it regularly. And you could actually book it as a regular flight with any...-Absolutely! All the flights to and from the Chatham Islands are still serviced 100% by Convair aircraft and they run on a schedule we operate. Currently it's on a very reduced period post COVID-19. But we're still operating three return flights from the Chatham Islands to the three main ports and New Zealand which is Christchurch, Wellington and Auckland. And you know, as we get closer to our summer, your winter, we will start to increase the schedule so to cater for the increase in passenger traffic demand and also a lot more fishing goes on because the weather starts to improve so the fishing boats can get out on the water and catch rock lobster and other fish species which they export.-Wow, it must be quite an experience to fly such an aircraft. -Yeah, we've had people from all over the world come and book on our airline, because they just love these airplanes and all they want to do is travel to the Chatahmas on a Convair and then fly again, so it is quite unique...-And that's not the only vintage aircraft that you have in your fleet because you also have...you used to have a Douglas DC-3, right? -Yeah, we still have a Douglas DC-3. It's a beautiful airplane. It's got a, you know, like all Douglas DC-3s that are still flying, it's got an amazing history. It came off the production line the day the the Russians invaded Berlin during WW2 so obviously at that stage the demand for aircraft going into Europe was less and so that particular plane was actually part of a number that was donated or gifted to the New Zealand Air Force and then they were used as trainers and they also saw some active duty. This particular one was on active duty in the Malayan crisis. When it came back to New Zealand it was sold what ultimately became Air New Zealand, but at the time it was called National Airways Corporation. And they were flown all around New Zealand. So initially, it was actually two airlines in New Zealand that were flying DC-3 and National Airways Corporation were actually in quite a heated competition environment so they upgraded the aircraft they implemented the what they called the skyline and mod so you know, it was soundproofing and improved cabin interiors in larger windows. So that's the shape that the aircraft is currently. From there, it went on leasing, it did some flying for an airline in Samoa, which is in the South Pacific, a South Pacific Island, from there it came back to New Zealand where it was used. Initially the plan was to use it to fly tourists around the country, but then it was actually converted to an agricultural aircraft. So it was spraying fertilizer on the farms around New Zealand, on certain parts of New Zealand. After that, it was a freighter, they pulled all the hopper equipment out for the fertilizing work and they turned it into a freighter. And it was flying between the two islands, so the North Island and the South Island of New Zealand, then it was reconverted back into a passenger aircraft. The intention was to use it on tours around the country again. But that never happened. And it found its way to the kingdom of Tonga where it was actually purchased by the Crown Prince, they have a monarchy in Tonga. And they actually had an airline up there and started operating two DC-3s. All through the Kingdom of Tonga. So they did that for quite some time. And that's really how we came to, to get our hands on the aircraft is that we took over the air service and Tonga, as we called it Chathams Pacific. It was a subsidiary of our mainline. And we purchased a hangar so that we could do our own airline maintenance at the hangar in Tongatapu, it’s an airport, which is their international airport, it connects the kingdom with New Zealand and other countries, Australia and through the Pacific. And there at the hangar was the Douglas DC-3 and my father is quite a passionate aviator. So he didn't want to see that aircraft turned into scrap. So we started a project, we got some help from Air New Zealand and some very experienced aircraft engineers that had worked on and flew the Douglas DC-3s in the past. And we slowly, but surely brought it back to life. Once we had it serviceable and certified, we actually decided to operate it ourselves. So we started flying passengers with that aircraft between Tongatapu and the Ha’apai Island group and also up into the Vava’u Island group, which is in the kingdom of Tonga. And it was actually very successful and was hands down one of the more reliable airplanes that we had because they were just so simple. They were built that way. So if you know you needed to change a cylinder, you could do that within a matter of hours. So they are very, very effective airplanes. We made the decision to exit that market, because there was at the time quite a large influence through government to accept an offer from the Chinese government for some MA-60 aircraft, and a whole aviation package around that so we just felt that it probably wasn't going to be a very fair environment to operate in and we decided that we would move out that part of our operation back to New Zealand and we took the DC-3s with us and since it got back into New Zealand we've been using it for predominantly for scenic flying and air shows so we take it to all the main shows around New Zealand and also it's based 24/7 these days in port city called Tauranga and that's on the western Bay of Plenty in the North Island of New Zealand and we've paired up with a company down there called Classic Fliers. So on the weekends and summer we take our DC-3 out for...I think, it's only 99 New Zealand dollars. I'm not sure what that is in euro...it's probably about 30 euro...we fly that aircraft for 30 minutes around the city as a sightseeing tour. It's very popular.-Wow, that's quite a story. I'm trying to picture now this DC-3 flying in the South Pacific and then in the beautiful landscape of New Zealand that must be really, really an amazing experience. So that's only for on.demand panoramic flights. It's not on, let's say, on regular airline service, this DC-3...-Yeah, that's right it's a line schedule days are well and truly over, but we do still use it on the on theme tours and and we do go to the shows and things like that as well. So it's beautiful. Everywhere it goes, it draws attention. And, you know, our goal now, because we are a family airline and we are very passionate about aviation, we want to make sure that people get to experience it here. -I see some pictures online, you have it painted in a sort of retro livery…-Yeah, so we've actually taken it back to its original paint scheme when it first started with a National Airways Corporation. And, and it was named “Pouwhaitere”, which is a Maori word for a yellow crested parakeet. And so that's the paint scheme that we've taken it back to.-I can see you also have other aircraft in your fleet. I mean, I don't want the audience to have the impression that you are like a flying museum! I mean, you have some modern aircraft as well. You have an ATR 72, you have some SAAB 340s, Fairchild Metros...Cessnas...Can you tell us a bit more about the rest of the fleet, the modern part of the fleet?-Yeah, no problem. So I guess it’s like anything...as an airline grows. You've got to move with the times and because we are family owned, we are limited by basically what we can afford as a family to operate. But as the airline has grown larger, we've been in a position to take advantage of some opportunities that have come our way. So we've expanded our domestic network within the North Island of New Zealand. We took over some flight routes that were previously operated by a New Zealand national carrier. And we implemented aircraft like the Metroliners...we bought into the Saab 340, which has been an extremely effective aircraft for our airline. And in more recent times, we have contracted with a company based in the United States to provide an aircraft for Tauck Tours, they are an international travel company that has guided itineraries throughout the world, including Australia and New Zealand. So we operate the New Zealand component of that with our ATR 72. So We're in a transitional state at the moment, we think we'll be retiring the Convairs within the next 12 months.-One question, I didn't fully understand what last thing you said about the ATR 72. So that's it’s flying itineraries for groups, is it?-Yes. So there's...if you google search...it's a company called Tauck, T-a-u-c-k, and they're an international travel company that does very high end fully guided tours all around the world. And they have an Australia and New Zealand component. So we operate the itineraries for New Zealand. So that aircraft, that ATR aircraft we purchased from Air New Zealand, we use it specifically on those charter services.-Okay, interesting. And from what you said, you also operate on the New Zealand mainland so your route network is not only flying between the Chatham Islands and New Zealand but also inside New Zealand. And I think you also have a flight to the Norfolk island. Is this right?-That's correct, yeah, we love flying to Norfolk Island!-Just for the audience: it's an island, a small island, that is literally between Australia and New Zealand and it's got, from what I heard, a very unique environment and landscape.-Right yeah! very similar to the Chathams except the temperatures are significantly better, it's a much warmer place, it's subtropical. They don't have any industry there, the only industry is tourism. So visitors from Australia and New Zealand predominantly, but in recent years, mainly from Australia. And, yes, we operate the Convair 580 from Auckland to Norfolk. So, interestingly, that's exactly the same distances as the flight from Auckland to Chatham Islands. And even more interestingly, if you flew directly from the Chatham Islands to Auckland and you carried on flying for another 580 nautical miles, you would land in Norfolk Island. So, go figure! We decided that was a route that was purpose-built for the Convair.-So your airline should be on the agenda of pretty much everyone that is interested in these remote out spots in the south.-Yeah, I think so-A very unique destination network...-Yeah. So it's probably for at least the next six months you can operate on, you know, fly on a very unique airplane to a very unique place. -How is it like to operate such a diverse and unique fleet? I guess when you're flying a Convair 580, a 1950s Convair, a 1940s, DC-3...then you have some other aircraft...all the maintenance and all the other MRO stuff that goes around those airplanes. It must be quite complex to run an airline like that. I'm just thinking specifically about the Convair and the DC-3, they might require some maintenance work. And I don't know how easy it is to source spares and components that you might need eventually…-Yeah, you're right. It is it is challenging and I think in the early days, you know, the mid 90s when my father first bought the Convairs, yeah, they had a lot of they had a lot of issues with just getting to grips with the aircraft, actually, because it is very complex and it's a beautifully designed airplane. Just like the DC-3, actually, it was so far ahead of its time. But it is very complex and there are a lot of systems And there are a lot of moving parts. And so, yeah, they had some interesting times. But I think, you know, having operated the aircraft for as long as we have, you know, 24 years, really then you see a lot of things and, and also in that time, we were able to build up a very good stock of space. So, we have the operating knowledge now, we have in the last decade the space to back that up. So, that actually became an extremely reliable airplane for us and they continue to be very reliable.The DC-3, it's similar, I mean, there is still a number of Douglas DC-3s around the world and there are a number of manufacturers that will provide overhaul and parts that the aircraft is obviously supported by Boeing. So, you know, all in all, it's, it is a challenge and like everything in aviation is very expensive, but yeah, it's still possible!-What about the pilots? Do you need pilots with some specific training to fly the Convairs and the DC-3s?-Yeah, absolutely! So we operate in accordance with our regulators. So that's the New Zealand Civil Aviation. And most of the framework of those rules come from ICAO and the FAA. So, it's very similar worldwide, with a lot of Western countries in terms of how those aviation industries are regulated. So we operate...they call it part one two five the Douglas DC-3, because that's the category that aircraft fits into, less than 30 seats. So that is operated to a very high standard of training. To give you an example, like anything if you want to fly that airplane, you have to do a ground school, you have to complete that then you have to type rating which consists of around about five hours of flying in the actual airplane that's running through a whole scenario of emergency and abnormal events. And then you have to go into line training, which, depending on whether it's an initial or upgrade training can be anywhere from sort of 10 to 15 hours online, so that's under Part one two five then with a Convairs, it's even, it's even more thorough with the Part 121, which is your larger aircraft category, over 30 seats and pilot and greater than 3.4 ton. So it's a ground school that consists of around two weeks in class. Then you go into simulators, we have one of only two fixed base Convair simulators in the world that's based on Chatham Islands. So you end up as a pilot, you'll spend probably about two weeks in the simulator, doing exercises then you'll get into the airplane itself. Complete your type rating because there's some things you can't do in a fixed base simulators, you complete your type writing in the airplane. And then you go online training for, you know, 100 hours 100 flight hours or 75 flight cycles. And then at the end of that if you've completed all your exercises, you make the grade that you'll be signed out to fly with on a regular lineup, so it's very thorough and terms of our training standards and has to be because, you know, you've got a lot of responsibility.-Yes. Well, I guess there's not that many pilots out there that have followed this procedure. It's a pretty exclusive club.-Yeah, yes. I mean, my father and I both fly the Convair and we both fly the Douglas DC-3. He still flies it, I haven't flown the DC-3 for a couple of years now...But, but yeah, they are complex airplanes, but they're great fun. The Convair 580 is still my favorite airplane to fly out of everything and I've flown you know, Metroliners and Saabs, as well, so yeah…! -Wow. So they can find you out at the rudder when people come onboard! Very good and just one question that is inevitable these days: is about...well...the pandemic. You are in one of those parts of the world that have, let's say, they have best managed the whole situation. And so I guess you are now getting to normal almost close to normal?-Yeah, it's getting normal in terms of our domestic environment. We have a level scale so it goes from level one to level four. Level four was locked down. Level three was not much different than lockdown. Level two was when a lot of those restrictions were lifted. We were in that environment for a number of weeks. And then we've just in the last two weeks transitioned back to level one, which is basically life as normal in New Zealand, but we still have very heavy restrictions on international travel into our country. So from a domestic point of view, it just feels like everything's normal again, we can go to sporting matches with stadiums full of people. You know, we can obviously get public transport...there's no restrictions on that. There's no social distancing mandated on the aircraft. So from a business point of view, it makes it a little bit easier to get things back on track, but I think it's going to take a very, very long time, and I think that the economic impact of, of COVID on our domestic market and also the global markets will be huge and is going to be realized over the next six to 12 months. - Did the virus reach the Chatham Islands? -No! didn't reach the Chathams and it didn't reach Norfolk Island. So yeah, that's another reason to travel there. Yeah!-Yeah, definitely! So just for the people that might be interested in flying your airline, they should go and book on the website, right, AirChathams.co.nz and what other ways…? you also offer some tools, panoramic flights, etc. So everything is bookable there?-Yeah, I mean, if you want to just have a look, an understanding of what we do and what aircraft we fly, just go to AirChathams.co.nz. Have a look. And if you want to book a flight, you can do that from the website. We are also on a lot of aggregators throughout the world that actually sell our products. So you can look on Skyscanner and things like that. Believe it or not, you can book a flight on a 1960s Convair via a modern platform. So it's quite quite unique. -Yes, indeed. And I'm going to post a link on the show notes. So it's airchathams.co dot as I said. Great! So it's been so interesting to have this conversation. It's definitely a very unique airline, very unique fleet and very unique network that you are operating. So I guess that's going to be quite interesting. Too many of our listeners a derivation enthusiast and...who knows you might get some of them soon onboard your Convair or your DC-3 or your other aircraft…-It's a very unique family and business and yeah, we're proud of what we've managed to achieve over the years since 1984. And of course you know, the future is going to be interesting as well as we unfortunately have to transition away from Convairs. It'll be a very sad day for us when we have to do that, but we're gonna move into operating more Saabs and potentially more ATRs and...just see where that takes us.-Do you have already a calendar for the retirement of the Convairs? -Yeah, it's been slowly been worked out. We're currently operating three Convairs. One's a a freight craft. So, that one does the flight between, predominantly, Auckland and Christchurch, which are two major cities and New Zealand. And then we have two passenger aircraft, the combis that I've spoken about mainly, and also another aircraft which we purchased from an airline called Era Aviation which were based in Alaska, that was a 50 seat on the air and it was passenger only, but you know, we called key Kiwi ingenuity and we installed seat backs. And we've actually managed to make that aircraft quite effective at carrying both passengers and freight. What we think will happen as towards the latter part of this year, will reduce our fleet to two Convairs and by around mid next year, we'll probably retire both of the Convairs, so we won't be operating anymore and our fleet. Yeah, things can change, but we're currently looking at programs to have our Saab and ATR aircraft upgraded to fly the oceanic routes out to Chatham Islands and Norfolk Island so that they can start to operate on those predominantly Convair sectors.-Ok, so aviation enthusiasts that wish to fly the Convairs have a sort of narrow window of opportunity to do so, provided the travel restrictions are lifted, they will need to hurry up to experience these aircraft before they are gone. Good, thank you very much Duane!, it's been pleasure talking with you and learning about your very unique airline. I will post all the links and information on the show notes so that people can have a look. Thank you very much and have a great week!-Thanks, Miquel!

Discussing ATRS, African Traditional Religions on Weiser FB Live Santeria, Obeah, 21 Divisions, Palo Mayombe, Espiritismo, Voodoo, how they are different Where they come from And More.

During the bonus show this week Gavin, Dave, and Andrew discuss all the currency legal challenges being filed against the May 1 Oder In Council.  Intro Hello to all you patriots out there in podcast land and welcome to Episode 232 of Canadian Patriot Podcast, the number one live podcast in Canada. Recorded May 28, 2020.  Panel: Andrew Gavin Dave We’d love to hear your feedback about the show. Please visit  canadianpatriotpodcast.com/feedback/ or email us at feedback@canadianpatriotpodcast.com A version of the show is Available on Stitcher at and iTunes http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=77508&refid=stpr and iTunes at https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/canadian-patriot-podcast/id1067964521?mt=2 Check the podcast out on http://facebook.com/canadianpatriotpodcast and Instagram  https://www.instagram.com/canadianpatriotpodcast/  We need your help! To support the show visit patreon.com/cpp and become a patreon. You can get a better quality version of the show for just $1 per episode. The more you pledge, the better the rewards are. Show you’re not a communist,  buy a CPP T-Shirt, for just $19.99 + shipping and theft. Visit canadianpatriotpodcast.com home page and follow the link on the right. What are we drinking Andrew - Coors Original Gavin - Crown Black & Coke Zero Dave - Ultra Legal Challenges Cassandra Parker/K.K.S. Tactical Supplies/ Solomon Friedman/National Firearms Association Court challenge seeks to overturn federal gun ban https://ottawacitizen.com/news/court-challenge-seeks-to-overturn-federal-gun-ban   Solomon Friedman Files First Lawsuit Against Liberal Gun Confiscations https://thegunblog.ca/2020/05/24/solomon-friedman-files-first-lawsuit-against-liberal-gun-confiscations/ CCFR CCFR Legal Team – Comprehensive & Exhaustive https://firearmrights.ca/en/ccfr-legal-team-comprehensive-exhaustive/   Legal Action FILED – will you help? https://firearmrights.ca/en/legal-action-filed-will-you-help/   Applicants, CCFR, Rod, Ryan Stacey, Macabee Defence, ATRS, Wolverine Supplies, Lawrence Knowles Application for judicial review based on the grounds that the OIC has inconsistent reasoning, extraneous considerations and circular logic, no supporting evidence Charter challenge based on unjustifiable infringement on Section 7 of the charter, right to life, liberty and security of the person, goes against the principles of fundamental justice and fails the Oakes Test. Also Contravention of section 35 of the constitution act of 1982 and contravention of the bill of rights as the regulation and reclassifications are inconsistent with and contrary to the bill of rights, no due process, and reclassifications done by the rcmp also had no due process.  J.R. Cox Trudeau Gun Confiscations Violate Constitution, Cox Lawsuit Says https://thegunblog.ca/2020/05/27/trudeau-gun-confiscations-violate-constitution-cox-lawsuit-says/ https://www.gofundme.com/f/jumaq-fight-the-oic-in-court John Hipwell/Ed Burlew Hipwell Hires Burlew, Seeks $100,000 to Fight Liberal Abuse of Power https://thegunblog.ca/2020/05/25/hipwell-hires-burlew-seeks-100000-to-fight-liberal-abuse-of-power/ https://www.gofundme.com/f/judicial-oic-challenge-john-hipwell-amp-ed-burlew Petitions https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-2574 We, the undersigned, citizens of Canada, call upon the Prime Minister to immediately scrap his government’s May 1, 2020, Order in Council decision related to confiscating legally owned firearms and instead pass legislation that will target criminals, stop the smuggling of firearms into Canada, go after those who illegally acquire firearms, and apologize to legal firearms owners in Canada. Sponsored by Michelle Rempel Garner   https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-2576 We, the undersigned, citizens of Canada, call upon the Government of Canada to immediately repeal the Order in Council issued May 1, 2020. Sponsored by Todd Doherty   https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-2582 Sponsored by Garnett Genuis Outro Andrew - https://ragnaroktactical.ca/ Visit us at www.canadianpatriotpodcast.com We value your opinions so please visit www.canadianpatriotpodcast.com/feedback/ or email us at feedback@canadianpatriotpodcast.com and let us know what you think. Apologies to Rod Giltaca Remember “You are the True North Strong and Free”

Dick Soupe and Spike Mulligan are trying to earn money they owe Patsy their landlord for rent. The two are late for their morning shift as Santa Claus and elf at Swizzler’s Department Store, run by Mohammed Alfajar Fulhamhole. Dick’s reaction to this seasonal job, coupled with a ‘Furby’ toy craze of that year and his lusting after young mothers, has Dick and Spike soon arguing over their pints in Joe Goggleses’ pub. They’ll be turfed out of their flat before Christmas if they don’t get Patsy’s rent money. Spike moans about it while reading his new book on Nostradiddymus, the "middle century cacker" as Dick calls him. Dick decides the best way to deal with things is to sleep on it, only to be visited by apparitions who take him on a journey to witness pivotal points of his past, present and of his future - should he stay on this path… Yuletide Yobs is a vulgar little vignette of one man’s transformation again, again and again… An Amplevoicepod ear-film production. Amplevoicepod create original, scripted, character & plot-driven comedy dramas. We construct fully immersive HD audio adventures. More than just a podcast, we are the Voice of Pod. Listen now to adventures from Mount Pheasant, Timefiddler, UCLS, Mental Holmes and ATRS. Frumpy Dumpster, United Mutations, Panspermia and the Friday Rock Show. All with beautiful sound design and irreverent humour. Join Adgeen and Tony on their two-hour rock show 'The Friday Rock Show', reading our listener stories live on air, among the greatest rock songs of the time. Find us, follow, subscribe and like. Streaming on Spotify, Acast, PlayerFM, Spreaker, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Deezer and more. Podbean and Soundcloud for episode art plus YouTube vids aplenty, Twitter for the socials, etc, ah sure you know eh? Bred mouldy in the backwoods of Wicklow, Ireland, where inspiration and insanity produce alchemic audio. https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/amplevoicepod/id1479166024 

May, 2001, Ireland. Two men arrive late in the morning on a cold and empty east coast beach. They are hungover. They are limping. They look at each other squinting. “This is it” one mumbled. “It’s done… Time to put on those headphones one last time…” It wasn’t one last time. Adgeen and Tony were back! And the Friday Rock Show ‘Brittas Bay’ special of ’01 was a masterclass in how to bottle a beautiful bowel movement. But they got by with a little help from their financially-induced friends. Dave O’Leary, Stephen Hawking, Ciaran Brennan, Neddy Tafler, Mr. Mellon, Gabbler, Leo McGregor and Paul Gombatuna all lent a well-remunerated hand in bringing the Friday Rock Show back on the air. Holding court among the bemused lobster-fleshed locals, bubbling farts in their ‘Rock Jacuzzi’, Adgeen and Tony sat on a Wicklow beach to present the first Friday Rock Show of the new millennium. They splash around, gurn, writhe and slap each other senseless in this epic summer special on Brittas Bay, Ireland’s ‘Premier Beach Attraction’ so someone says. You’ll hear some quite outlandish communiqués from our listeners. Jagger nearly spills hash into his pint while watching Celine gyrate beside his armchair. Neddy is so horny, his cock might explode as he soon gets his conquest ‘up the duff’. Baldy travels down to Wexford to fall in love with Becks from Coolgreany and proceeds to eat all her food. Then there’s Karen McGaa, who starts work at the ‘Donation Station’ in a sperm bank, soon to be hypnotised by Quentin’s larger-than-expected contribution. Finally there’s Gerry Dixon, who’s very angry at the ‘First Wives Club’ of his local GAA community, spitefully telling us they’re all ‘skulling back pints’, ‘riding in tractor sheds’ and ‘building a house next to the ‘mammy’’. Witness more spots than you can flick a snot at, with Who Wants To Be a Millionaire, Gabbler’s Sci-Fi Spot, The Tune The Box Spat Out, Don’t Fuck Up The Microphone and a bevy of promotional adverts to pick the sand out of your crack to. Adgeen and Tony dance in the moonlight with Toploader, roll with Limp Bizkit, go loco with the Fun Lovin’ Criminals, steal some sunshine with Len and play sssshhpiderman with The Ramones! And even the sun briefly came out too. It’s a mighty soggy sandcastle of a show. So throw down your towel and let The Friday Rock Show lash the air off your pimply blue skin with our Brittas Bay Special from 2001. Amplevoicepod create original, scripted, character & plot-driven comedy dramas. We construct fully immersive HD audio adventures. More than just a podcast, we are the Voice of Pod. Listen now to adventures from Mount Pheasant, Timefiddler, UCLS, Mental Holmes and ATRS. Frumpy Dumpster, United Mutations, Panspermia and the Friday Rock Show. All with beautiful sound design and irreverent humour. Join Adgeen and Tony on their two-hour rock show 'The Friday Rock Show', reading our listener stories live on air, among the greatest rock & metal songs of the time. Do it, do it, dooo it. Find us, follow, subscribe and like. Check us out on Spotify, Acast, PlayerFM, Spreaker, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Deezer and more. Podbean and Soundcloud for episode art plus YouTube vids aplenty, Twatter, etc, you know yourself. Bred mouldy in the backwoods of Wicklow, Ireland, where inspiration and insanity produce alchemic audio... https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/amplevoicepod/id1479166024 

Strutting awkwardly down the steps into the pert parlour of plenty, flanked each side by Mirjana and Irena, Adgeen and Tony stumble through red velvet curtains. Two glasses of Louis Roederer’s finest Cristal are shoved in their faces by an effortlessly slender gentleman. Tony slaps him away, ordering instead two bottles of Tuborg much to the smirks of other McLapdancer staff. Adgeen’s about holding it together for the after party here but Tony has just pissed himself, wobbling toward a private room with a square-jawed Estonian. 50 Cent comes thumping on the P.A. and a thonged girl with a live snake jumps up on a shiny podium. Adgeen tells no-one in particular that “50 Cent was shot 8 times don’t you know”. Tony roars back beyond a curtain: “Yeah, but not in the head though!” The Friday Rock Show is ‘Looking Back At 2003’, when Ugg boots, double denim and Justin Timberlake were somehow relevant. A ghastly time for all involved but there was a sliver of Olympian light in the form of The Darkness, The Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Foo Fighters, Queens of the Stone Age and Audioslave. Adgeen and Tony tear into incredulous letters sent in from Tucker, DJ Jaffa, Mickleen, Clare, Gabbler, Busher and Seamus Conman, regaling us with tales of their strange goings-on in 2003. A time when everybody was trapped in lapdancing clubs, drinking too much and racking up huge credit card debt to fund whole families back in Eastern Oestrogena. But, my, they were lovin’ it! Da-da-da-da-daaaah!   Amplevoicepod create original, scripted, character & plot-driven comedy dramas. We construct fully immersive HD audio adventures. More than just a podcast, we are the Voice of Pod. Listen now to adventures from Mount Pheasant, Timefiddler, UCLS, Mental Holmes and ATRS. Frumpy Dumpster, United Mutations, Panspermia and the Friday Rock Show. All with beautiful sound design and irreverent humour. Join Adgeen and Tony on their two-hour rock show 'The Friday Rock Show', reading our listener stories live on air, among the greatest rock & metal songs of the time. It's a bit of a giggle and it helps support indie artists and not that pack of rapacious celebrity parasites. 

Hard rock hallelujah! Lordy, lordy, eh? Lordi? Who? Uh, no it’s not just the tune the Finns shat out, but it’s praise be for another sonic slab of Friday Rock Show. Hewn from the stratified limpet brains of Adgeen Byrne and Tony Wilson… They’ve alabastered themselves all over with The Friday Rock Show No.32. Pasty, lined and cold to the touch, we chip away at the dusty, gnarly face of the calcified absurdities of rock. There are chiselled boulders of inarticulate and explicit stories from our listeners, including Jagger, Uzbeki, Gabbler, Eric, Umar and Floyd Excelsior Ginkle. Not to mention the spits, curses and all round passive aggressiveness of Busher, for whom we roll some Aha out in honour of his favourite band. They write in, we read out and all sorts of tectonic shifts ensue. We blow some speakers with Manowar, head to California with the Red Hot Chili Peppers and get stoned with Tool. Letter-writer Gabbler flies back later in the show perched atop his Millenium Sirocco to give us his Sci-Fi Spot and there’s always time for a bit of ‘Don’t Fuck Up The Microphone’. However, the stupendous ego of Leo soon bounces raggedly into our view, sending us his story of studying ‘boom frequencies’ and claiming false sexual conquests. Come rappel down the smooth eroded slope of The Friday Rock Show No.32 with us and let’s get Alabastered together. Simply the best, highest, thin-aired peak of rock shows, on a Friday. It's certainly not 'Full Metal Jackie' if that's what you're thinking. Amplevoicepod create original, scripted, character & plot-driven comedy dramas. We construct fully immersive HD audio adventures. More than just a podcast, we are the Voice of Pod. Listen now to adventures from Mount Pheasant, Timefiddler, UCLS, Mental Holmes and ATRS. Frumpy Dumpster, United Mutations, Panspermia and the Friday Rock Show. All with beautiful sound design and irreverent humour. Join Adgeen and Tony on their two-hour rock show 'The Friday Rock Show', reading our listener stories live on air, among the greatest rock & metal songs of the time. It's a chaotic camaraderie. Find us, follow, subscribe and like.

Once there back a few years gone, we at The Friday Rock Show took to self-flagellating and honouring our magnificence and munificence by forcefully celebrating 25 years in the rock biz not long ago. Well it was in 2012, quite a fair bit ago, but we did start roaring into a microphone in June 1987 so what's a 'fair bit ago' to us anyway? Tshuh... Hence me, best producer ever, Tony Wilson, and overpaid preening DJ Adgeen Byrne, flashed you our 'Silverbacks'. Silverback is a Friday Rock Show anniversary special showcasing a quarter of a century’s ('87-'12, keep up now) advancing idiocy with an outcast of unwell wishers, letter-mad fans such as Jagger, Kevin, Boba Fenton and also Baldy (how'd he get in again?). Even the Gabbler strips off to shove his 'Sci-fi Spot' in our faces. And oh, there are those favourite slots that just get you hot: there's the 'Best Bits', 'Don't Fuck Up The Microphone' and 'Areyemadinthehead'! Who? Just listen to this 2hr 40min monster and then you’ll grab the bull’s horn. It’s a celebration of unbound nonsense with deft sound design and originality. A proper radio show to slide into on your headphones. Like it, love it, come ask for more and I'll give you watcha need. I'm here for you. Inside the bowels of this mighty Silverback is a special ‘Ahind The Music’ documentary, charting the show’s inexplicable rise to dominance, hosted by the one-and-thankfully-only Paul Gombatuna. It's HUGE. And it's amazing. And it's great an' an' everything! So come join us on our oddcast odyssey. Amplevoicepod create original, scripted, character & plot-driven comedy dramas. We construct fully immersive HD audio adventures. More than just a podcast, we are the Voice of Pod. Listen now to adventures from Mount Pheasant, Timefiddler, UCLS, Mental Holmes and ATRS. Frumpy Dumpster, United Mutations, Panspermia and the Friday Rock Show. All with beautiful sound design and irreverent humour. Join Adgeen and Tony on their two-hour rock show 'The Friday Rock Show', reading our listener stories live on air, among the greatest rock & metal songs of the time. Do it fam'...

Tony Wilson here, producer extraordinaire, bringing you another great promotion clip of The Friday Rock Show from Amplevoicepod.  This is from episode 44, christened WOOL FREAKS. The title taken from a great story sent in by regular listener Busher. We play 10 rock songs of the day and read out 10 listener letters over two hours. That's the routine. It's a rock show with added audio drama. We've been at this for years. We're fairly alright at it. We were bred mouldy but we were podcasting back in '87, when all other podcasts were just fields.  Seismic story contributor Busher is joined by Pastor Badpaw, Orpheus Telch, Mikayla, John Paul Slaney, Foggy, Macaroon and more of our dodgy correspondents who get their beautiful tales teased out on air by DJ Adgeen Byrne, unably supported by me; producer Tony Wilson. So please, let us tongue you aurally. Listen in, follow and maybe be a regular returnee, comment, contribute, say hi, and enjoy all of the current and future fantastic audio we dig up from our backwoods in Wicklow, Ireland.  We at Amplevoicepod also make ear-film comedy drama adventures where we submerge your ears in a sea of sound, putting you at the heart of the story along with our heroes. Bursting out original feature-length stories with over 40 titles and 50+ characters, all created from collaborative ideas and sculpted over months to arrive at the final mix. Check out Mount Pheasant, Frumpy Dumpster, ATRS, Panspermia, United Mutations, Mental Holmes and more!   © Copyright Amplevoicepod

  Join us as we speak with Espiritista Eoghan Craig Ballard to discuss the history and practice of African diaspora religions, and his personal journey into these traditions. Mr Ballard enlightens us with his perspective on some of the most important concepts of the Afro-Caribbean paradigm.  We talked about the nature of spirits in these traditions and how to work with them, the development of mediumship,  and so much more. A great introduction for anyone interested in learning about the ATRs, as well as a thoughtful examination for those already involved in those traditions.   http://hedgemason.blogspot.com/   cover art by Lawrence Zuñiga Batista  

Trey interviews his spiritual father on topics of Initiation, Law of Karma, ATRs, Spiritual Instagram & more!!

The ultimate part of wild-man Bare Grills hauling DJ Adrian Byrne & producer Tony Wilson of The Friday Rock Show out of their onesies, slippers & comfort zones into the truly brutal majesty of the Irish west coast. Graham: With nothing but their wits about them and a will to survive, Adrian and Tony head into the unknown as they search wild west Ireland for a way to the shoreline. Adrian: We’ve been walking for hours. Tony: It’s getting dark now, we may kip somewhere for the night. Adrian: Whatcha think Bare would do now? Tony: Do you think he’s still alive? Adrian: No idea, but if he was here he’d fashion up some sort of solution quick though, wouldn’t he? Tony: He would. But it’s sort of better that we get it try ourselves no? Adrian: Yeah, I mean… We are- Tony: Men! Adrian: Yeah, men! That’s right Tony, Tony: That’s us! Adrian: And we’re resourceful, and clever and- Tony: I like Bare more now that he’d dead. Adrian: Presumed dead. Tony: Yeah, but c’mon, that was some drop he made. Adrian: Now that was wild. Tony: Man verses wild. Adrian: Man didn’t come out of it too well. Tony: The wild always wins. Adrian: Yeah, here, will we go through the forest? Tony: Looks like there’s no other way. Adrian: Grand so, the lights fading, it’ll be cold in the open, c’mon. Tony: My legs are blue. Give ‘em a rub will ya? Adrian: Tell ya what’ll warm us up, more of your story, about that hermit fella. Tony: Hermit the Log? Adrian: Yeah, what was the last thing I heard?                      Tony: Eh, don’t remember now, but, yerman the fisherman Tom Deartle said ‘the Log’ liked to gorge himself on sugar and alcohol, that he liked to be pissed. Baileys, Starbars and Hula-Hoops were his favourites. As evenings began to chill… Adrian: Like now. Tony: Shyeah… he grew his beard to about an inch, long enough to insulate his face, short enough to prevent frost build-up. He intensified his nickin’, stocked up on food and gas cylinders before the last leaves fell. Adrian: What if he didn’t have food? Tony: Eh, said he had hard times alright, brutal times, the temperature sank, he ran out of gas and no food. Physical, emotional, and psychological pain. Adrian: I can relate to that alright. Tony: Rocking back and forth and moaning quietly. Like a madlad! Adrian: Why did he not just leave the woods? Tony: Oh he had thought about it. But he decided that unless dragged out he was spending the rest of his life behind the trees. Adrian: Madlad. How could you survive without modern life? It’s great… Tony: Ah but old Hermit the Log’s age advanced. He used his ears more than his eyes. His agility faded, eh, bruises took longer to heal, his teeth constantly hurt but still he stayed, he needed the woods y’see. Our life was, is, loud, too colourful, tooo mental for him. Not enough… stillness. Adrian: Brrrrrr. Jeez, like at this place. Black… Oh wait- do you hear that? Tony: Hah? Adrian: It’s a car… Tony: You’re hallucinatin’. Adrian: We’re just off the N11… Tony: Your ears are seeing this Adgeen. Adrian: Hey, Tony: Hah? Adrian: Are you using my She Wee? Tony: I had to try it sure! Adrian: Ah (sigh), you’re permanently sick aren’t you? Tony: Finished! It’s a fuckin’ bleak spot isn’t it? Which way, now? Where we goin’? Adrian: Never seen all this before. Tony: Do you’ve a compass? Adrian: No, use me nose. Tony: Are you following me or am I following you? Adrian: So cold. Look at that view though. Tony: I shudda brought me thermals. Adrian: Just look down to the left, there. Tony: Hah? Where those birds are? I see it, what is that? Adrian: Lights… Come on. Tony: Do you want me to dry the She Wee? Adrian: There’s a row of six white lights. Tony: It’s a spaceship! Adrian: Get down behind those roots. Tony: They’re no torches, they’re too, they’re too- ‘still’. Adrian: There’s some flickering… you see it? Tony: Yeh. Adrian: Shh, do you hear it? Wait… Tony: That’s, that’s a woman! Adrian: That’s a woman being rode Tony. Tony: By aliens? Adrian: No, by something much more unusual. Tony: What? Adrian: Doggers! Tony: Doggers? Adrian: Oh come on, Tony: Ah for fuck’s sake Adgeen, course I’ve heard of doggin’! Me and Maggie used to be at it a while back. Used to wear the black Hello-Kitty cushion covers over our heads when I bate it up her. Record was seven cars, 13 lamps, one headlight burst by Maggie’s heel. Heh, this one sounds like she’s likin’ what she’s takin’! Listen to ‘er… Adrian: Give me that She Wee Tony. Let’s put down these dogs. Tony: Whatcha gonna do? Adrian: Get the lid off this first… test she works… Tony: Hammerin’ off her. Ah! Stink a’ that hairspray. Adrian: Want some? Tony: Get off me! Get off me! Adrian: Stick the She Wee backwards into the hairspray nozzle and: Tony: Ah shit! (PAAAAAARP) Adrian: Ah ah! It’s all wet! (Distant scream, cars rev up and depart) Adrian: Ya didn’t dry it ya fuckin’ savage! Tony: I can’t hear ya Adgeen. Urrr, I’m deafened Adrian: And there they go, like Mad Max out through the forest. Tells us the way to get out! C’mon… Tony: Hah?    What happens next? Listen on to this final fifth part of ATRS 2 – The Adrian and Tony Radio Show, another amazing ear-film adventure from Amplevoicepod. Streaming our oddcast now on all good audiophilic emporia.

Mount Pheasant returns. In this second outing; the unemployable Richard Pheasant still roams the Mount Eidel streets on the Irish east coast looking for something to do. And he is still sick. But just how sick? Listen on to this 53 minute full-fx ear-film adventure from Amplevoicepod. In the beginning Richard Pheasant visits his manager Lionel Penton in hospital... Then at the nearby Falconhorst Chemical, run by Niklas Van Falconhorst, he and right-hand-man Broadleaf O’Hara are conspiring to get rid of a warehouse of Iodine. Local courier Shameless Hagan is to despatch a visit to local councillor Egritte Manbender, much to the shock of her boyfriend Ponkin Bourke. Meanwhile Cottle Fardell of Eidel Radio needs to find a scoop or he’s fired. Both he and Ponkin sit in Dessie’s ‘Monday Club’ pub, telling Richard that he’s a very brave man. Not to worry, Richard will find a job soon. And that is where Niklas comes back in and takes it all downhill from there. Come to Mount Eidel, where cans of Tuborg give you an awful wind. As they scuttle precariously down through Mount Eidel on a moped, Dick Pheasant is embroiled in helping out Ponkin, to discover just what Shameless Hagan the courier is doing with Ponkin's girlfriend Egritte Manbender. Later, Dick becomes the centre of attention at Falconhorst Chemical. Anyway, who cares? Ponkin cares! He cares about Egritte, and he cares about his friend Dick. Sometimes though, it's all too much for him... Then the deadly disastrous denouement is upon Dick Pheasant in Mount Eidel, as the 'Project Cure' benefit night at Falconhorst Chemical begins. DJ Sammy is here. Niklas Van Falconhorst is poised. Cottle Fardell is ready. Time for Dick to take centre stage... Join Dick, Ponkin and Cottle on another strange aural adventure from Amplevoicepod. Mount Pheasant II. We love to listen here at Amplevoicepod. We spend hours upon hours of studiously perfecting our aural output. With the Voice of Pod to guide you, you can sort of disappear into another richly-filled and fantastically-realised soundscape of pure fun and escapism. All you have to do is close your eyes and press play. It is cathartic. Believe us. And now, that we have you here, just what type of amazing audio adventure awaits you with Mount Pheasant I & II now streaming online at https://ample.podbean.com ?! (Remember, 5 parts of each to collect, each with transcripts). Well... Let cranky old Richard Pheasant himself tell you and listen on. There's pills, arse-slapping & man-grooming going, as well as sickness, tributes and a lot of 'man country' as everyone wants to MOUNT PHEASANT. Also available are the tumultuous time travel adventure Timefiddler and the ATRS; the Adrian & Tony Radio Show, revelling in the end of the world. Streaming our oddcast now on all good audiophilic emporia.

The 60 minute uninterrupted full-on entire helping of The Adrian & Tony Radio Show I by Amplevoicepod, the oddcasters. Is the apocalypse now? A disastrous one hour radio show from Amplevoicepod starring DJ Adrian Byrne and producer Tony Wilson (the 'ATRS') finds out. There's something going on in Yellowstone Park in the USA, strange sounds abound in the sky and Tony is sent out to do a 'voxpop on the streets' to see if the world is really ending. Special studio guest is the ATRS 'resident astrological expert'; famed astro-cosmologist Fabian Mortimer who presents Adrian with stunning new evidence from his Guatemalan jungle trip with Rodrigo. He discovered a Mayan hieroglyphic stone and makes a fateful revelation live via Skype! Just what is it? It's pretty seriously ominous... with the shocking pronouncement that baked beans are the ideal gift for the one you love. Back in the studio DJ Adgeen meets the 'extinction event' guest himself, the ATRS 'resident professor'; the flared nostrils of Professor Mick Chiselton. They talk of which ways we could be wiped out; a deep space impact, a solar storm, planet X, the magnetic pole shifting or nuclear war? Which one would you like? Probably the one where our own stupidity does us in, as is evident. There are "flummications all around!" Adrian forewarns us that he'll speak with resident Agronomist Bert Kavanagh on the phone but first: "what does the big G dog make of it all. On the Telephone here to tell us how religion has foretold the end of the world is the Reverend Jagros." Rev. Jagros: "God bless you Adrian. The Bible has foretold the end of the world. It is not too late for you or your listeners to repent and save your souls before Judgement day. For it is now the time of the second coming as foretold in the scriptures." Adrian: "So JC is going to ride down from the heavens any second now on a glowing white horse." Rev. Jagros: "Ah you rib me gently man, but soon you too will see the truth. As a young lad at bedtime my mother would read to me from the scriptures so I know the Lords arrival will be preceded by times of great trials for us all. Look at us now Adrian in the midst of a great recession. Our people our suffering, suffering! All of us yeah we are suffering. The signs are all there. All over the world there is wars and famine. But we look away, immerse ourselves in the X-­Factor. But Cowell he is the false prophet, that's not real music the Rohypnol for the minds of the masses. He distracts us from the genocide and murders of children in the name of false gods. He wants us to value money and the easy life, the comfortable material life and stick our heads in the sand, because the bad stuff only happens far far away. Hearts are hardening, people are selfish and it is now cool to say God does not exist like the Dawkins, the Hitchens & Jonathan Somebody! These people even feel intellectually superior...." "BUT THE RAPTURE IS COMING ADRIAN!" Later special phone-in guest is Imogen Telch from the organisation 'Countdown Underway No Tomorrow', telling Adrian of her plans to leave Earth before the coming end of humanity. As the end of the world approaches ever sooner, Lorna interrupts Adrian in the radio studio to link back up with producer Tony Wilson who is still out on the streets 'facing the end times'... Then this deliriously deceptive denouement of a truly disastrous one hour radio show from Amplevoicepod arrives. Fabian Mortimer beetles his way back to studio to comfort a distraught Adrian. "It... It seems to be really happening. The knock on effect from Yellowstone Park is being felt globally. There are scenes of chaos and carnage on the news coming in from all four corners of our planet. I can…. barely believe it… I suppose I should just go to the phone lines now and get some of the reaction out there. God help us all. I’m being told we have a farmer local to County Wicklow in Ireland which is where we are, who wishes to remain anonymous on the line. What's happening sir?" ATRS I is an Amplevoicepod production. We create original explicit storytelling. We try not to follow others, don't cross the easy fields and have lived in blissful ignorance across millennia. We make ear-film adventures. Full effects-laden audio productions with plots, characters and immersive sounds. It takes about 70 hours of production in writing, recording and editing to make 1 hour of output. We take lumps out of each other as we sculpt our latest mutation. To relax we switch on the mics, open our lungs and bellow out a 2-hour rock show playing the best music dug up on a Friday. Tautologically titled 'The Friday Rock Show' it's just us and a few listener letters, which we lovingly read out on air. It's DJ Adgeen Byrne and producer Tony Wilson spitting and sparring to send you into sonic convulsions. See our Youtube channel for more... Started in 1987, this saga has continued down through the ages with over 500 stories read out on air, from a wide variety of intriguingly demented souls.  Join Amplevoicepod as we sail the sick sounds of sublime. We do oddcasting right. Listen to our peacocks and pheasants! Firstly an awesome time travel adventure 'Timefiddler' starring Tucker Peacock, then regale in small-town ignorance on 'Mount Pheasant' with Richard Pheasant and his epic struggles with the Falconhorst Chemical Company and swallowing too many Pandadoll pills. Available now to stream free on all the really good podcasting platforms. Stay logged-in too for future adventures from The Friday Rock Show, Panspermia, Frumpy Dumpster and many many more!

The deliriously deceptive denouement of a truly disastrous one hour radio show from Amplevoicepod. ATRS is DJ Adrian Byrne and producer Tony Wilson (the 'ATRS') as they come face to face with their own big ends. In this fifth and final segment Fabian Mortimer beetles his way back to studio to comfort a distraught Adrian.  "It... It seems to be really happening. The knock on effect from Yellowstone Park is being felt globally. There are scenes of chaos and carnage on the news coming in from all four corners of our planet. I can…. barely believe it… I suppose I should just go to the phone lines now and get some of the reaction out there. God help us all. I’m being told we have a farmer local to County Wicklow in Ireland which is where we are,who wishes to remain anonymous on the line. What's happening sir?" Farmer Payter: "I have had suspicionary for the last few days that this would happen. The ends of the worldses. It started when I was goin’ fishing for the supper in the Avoca River. As I was dangling me rod in her, I smelt somethin awful fisherie. I cast my gaze down stream and seen fish, tonnes of ‘em all washed up on the shore. All of them had no eyes. No eyes I tell you! Just empty sockets lookin’ up at me all ghoulery. I bate it home on the ten wheel racer and locked the door." Adrian: "That’s definitely unusual,but they do a lot of mining in your area maybe an explosion close to the river caused it?" Farmer Payter: "'Scuse me Bournelery Mr I haven’t finished..As I was listening to the radio tonight. Allses heards was banging. Thud, thud I heard on the roof. Banging off the windows, clanging in me steel bath out in the yard. I looked out the window and alls I could see was blackbirds! Blackbirds from Avondale falling from the sky! The front yard was full of dead birds and feathery. It’s a sign Adrian, a sign we’re all doomed!" Adrian: "Stay on the line there Payter we have a few more calls… and no...that's it, the phone lines are dead. Latest on the News is Volcanic Eruptions in Italy and a 10 point earthquake has hit California. It seems Fabian you have been proven accurate." Fabian: "I have taken no satisfaction Adrian, maybe if we had known sooner, if that tablet hadn’t lain undiscovered for so long?" Adrian: "I just wanted an interesting show. What have I done?" Fabian: "You have done a fantastic show!" Adrian: "No, what have I done with my life. All those hour and years working hard in radio, building up this digital radio station with Tony. Yeah now we're our own bosses but at what cost?I could have spent that time kayaking or bungee jumping, climbing mountains. Making the Millenium Falcon out of matchsticks. Swimming with dolphins. Now it’s over and I've done narthin!" Fabian: "You need a hug come join me I’ve built our safe place on the floor of the studio. Suppose all I can do is crack open a beer and listen to some music and wait for the end. Thanks for listening tonight. This has been the Adrian and Tony Radio Show. Goodnight." These are the end times, so why not enjoy them with us at Amplevoicepod. Press play, zone out and party on until it all collapses. Amplevoicepod creates original explicit storytelling. We make HD audio podcasts to sternly tongue your earhole. We try not to follow others, don't cross the easy fields and have lived in blissful ignorance across millennia. We make ear-film adventures. Full effects-laden audio productions with plots, characters and immersive sounds. It takes about 70 hours of production in writing, recording and editing to make 1 hour of output. We take lumps out of each other as we sculpt our latest mutation. To relax we switch on the mics, open our lungs and bellow out a 2-hour rock show playing the best music dug up on a Friday. Tautologically titled 'The Friday Rock Show' it's just us and a few listener letters, which we lovingly read out on air. It's DJ Adgeen Byrne and producer Tony Wilson spitting and sparring to send you into sonic convulsions. Started in 1987, this saga has continued down through the ages with over 500 stories read out on air, from a wide variety of intriguingly demented souls. We do oddcasting right. Listen to our peacocks and pheasants! Firstly an awesome time travel adventure 'Timefiddler' starring Tucker Peacock, then regale in small-town ignorance on 'Mount Pheasant' with Richard Pheasant and his epic struggles with the Falconhorst Chemical Company and swallowing too many Pandadoll pills. Available now to stream free on all the really good podcasting platforms. Stay logged-in too for future adventures from The Friday Rock Show, Panspermia, Frumpy Dumpster, Mount Pheasant and many many more!

Is the apocalypse now? A disastrous one hour radio show from Amplevoicepod starring DJ Adrian Byrne and producer Tony Wilson (the 'ATRS') finds out. In this second 10 minute segment, there's a super volcanic eruption in Yellowstone Park and strange sounds abound in the sky as Tony Wilson is on the streets discovering that the world might really be ending. He meets Linda and a middle-aged man in a white dress buying baked beans: Lilo McGregor, only for it then to go horribly wrong. Back in the studio DJ Adgeen meets the 'extinction event' guest himself, the ATRS 'resident professor'; the flared nostrils of Professor Mick Chiselton. They talk of which ways we could be wiped out; a deep space impact, a solar storm, planet X, the magnetic pole shifting or nuclear war? Which one would you like? Probably the one where our own stupidity does us in, as is evident. Anyway, listen to the Adrian & Tony Radio Show and find out. It's pretty ominous... with the shocking pronouncement that "flummications are all around!" ATRS I is an Amplevoicepod ear-film production. We make fully immersive HD audio adventures. More than just a podcast, we are the Voice of Pod. Join us, follow, subscribe and like. Check us out on Spotify, iTunes, Acast, PlayerFM, Spreaker, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Deezer, Podcast Addict and everywhere else podcatchers pounce. Podbean and Soundcloud for episode art plus YouTube vids aplenty, Twatter, etc, you know yourself.

Is the apocalypse now? A disastrous one hour radio show from Amplevoicepod starring DJ Adrian Byrne and producer Tony Wilson (the 'ATRS') finds out. In this first 13-minute segment, there's something going on in Yellowstone Park in the USA, strange sounds abound in the sky and Tony is sent out to do a 'voxpop on the streets' to see if the world is really ending. Special studio guest is the ATRS 'resident astrological expert'; famed astro-cosmologist Fabian Mortimer who presents Adrian with stunning new evidence from his Guatemalan jungle trip with Rodrigo. He discovered a Mayan hieroglyphic stone and makes a fateful revelation live via Skype! Just what is it? Listen to the Adrian & Tony Radio Show and find out. It's pretty seriously ominous... with the shocking pronouncement that baked beans are the ideal gift for the one you love... ATRS I is an Amplevoicepod ear-film production. We make fully immersive HD audio adventures. More than just a podcast, we are the Voice of Pod. Join us, follow, subscribe and like. Check us out on Spotify, Acast, PlayerFM, Spreaker, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Deezer, Podcast Addict and everywhere else podcatchers pounce. Podbean and Soundcloud for episode art plus YouTube vids aplenty, Twatter, etc, you know yourself. Welcome to the Podestant Reformation.

Trey aka Juni, tells a little about himself & Ancestors Wisdom. And ex-owner of “Brujo Works” speaks!

Andrew and Jesse connect on this weeks episode to discuss their connect to Santeria and the Orishas. We see how these traditions influence us, our world, and our magick. If you're enjoying the podcast so far why not check out our Patreon. For just a few dollars an episode you'll get special perks and Patreon only episodes! You can do so here. If you want more of this in your life you can subscribe by RSS , iTunes, Stitcher, or email. Check out Jesse's store "Wolf and Goat" here, his podcast here, and his theatre work here.  Thanks for joining the conversation. Please share the podcast to help us grow and change the world.  Andrew ANDREW: [00:00:00] Welcome to The Hermit's Lamp podcast. I'm here today with Jesse Hathaway, who . . . I have a hard time describing exactly who Jesse is. Jesse does all sorts of traditional magical traditions in [00:00:15] the ATR, as well as, you know, being an author and creator of magical products and a participator in a whole bunch of other traditions as well. So, I'm just going to hand it over to Jesse and say hey, how [00:00:30] how would you introduce yourself here?  JESSE: Hi. Wow. I think . . . You know, I'm not, I'm not a big fan of magical CVs as it is, but you know, I, summary-wise, [00:00:45] I guess, I'm an Olocha. I made Obatalá in the Cuban Lukumí Santería tradition. I am a Tata Quimbanda, which . . . I'm a practitioner of Brazilian . . . It's [00:01:00] an Afro-Brazilian sorcerers' tradition that is sometimes paired with Umbanda, or Candomblé. Sometimes people let it stand on its own. It's a Congolese-derived practice, and traditional [00:01:15] witchcraft has always been there for, you know, as long as I can consciously remember, into early teens and things like that.  But I study whatever interests me. It doesn't mean I'm initiated in all those things; it doesn't mean I'm practicing [00:01:30] all those things, but I have a passion for magical traditions, folk magic, folklore. I have a huge love of Mexican curanderismo, which is a familial background, although I did not go into that as a [00:01:45] practitioner. And I think also just . . . I'm a babbler, is probably important for my CV as well, that, you know, some of these things, like curanderismo, culturally, you never called yourself [00:02:00] that thing; that was something the community called you. So, I guess in some ways whatever people call me is whatever they call me, and they can come to me for what they come to me. And the main thing is that I'm just trying to do as much training with elders and keep things going as I can. But yeah. [00:02:16]  ANDREW: I think that's a really interesting point. You know? And maybe we can start with that. We . . . I mean, we were talking before we got on the line, right? And we were talking about, you know, these sort of questions of authority and [00:02:31] who gets to call oneself authority, you know, who's an expert in these traditions or an elder or even just, you know, an acknowledged practitioner, you know? And I think that this question of where [00:02:46] does the authority come from? And how does that happen sort of inside and outside of traditional practices is a really interesting point, right?  JESSE: Yeah. ANDREW: You know, for example, you're talking about, you know, being a curandero, [00:03:01] like, that's not a thing that you call yourself. That's what other people would call you if they're going to call you that, right?  JESSE: Yes.  ANDREW: I think that that's really fascinating, and I think that we see a lot of change [00:03:16] around that, where traditionally everybody lived in the same place, right? Everybody generally didn't move around that much and people probably saw a person in that practice grow [00:03:31] up, experience their training, they saw that they got the nod from other people who are acknowledged as that, and at some point, they started taking on their own, you know, practice, right? But in the Internet age, right, [00:03:47] that looks more like a good Instagram account, maybe? JESSE: (laughing) ANDREW: You know, maybe a nice website.  JESSE: Yeah.  ANDREW: You know, what . . . like, I'm curious what you think about those evolutions and those changes that are going [00:04:02] on around that.  JESSE: Yeah. I mean, the apprenticeship model, which . . . It's not a certificate model, right? It's something different, where you are under an apprenticeship, you are with the elder and [00:04:17] their clients see you training with their elder. You know, they . . . it's . . .The visibility is a very different thing. It's not just classes. It's not just, you know, herb walks, occasionally. You are the right hand [00:04:32] of that elder for a very long time. And they see you go from incompetence to competence to fluency, and you know, that kind of replacement for that elder if and when they pass is there. And [00:04:47] it's a very different model than what is done now.  But even within, I think, the kind of Internet age, of, you know, teachers have dozens and dozens and dozens of students. I look at the Brazilian model of a tahero, where [00:05:02] there is going to be one pai de the santo, who is the head, doing everything. They're doing all the initiating, thousands of people, but each person has a yake baba care [spelling?] that's taking care of their needs that is more individualized in that way. But still, it's . . . [00:05:17] you lose your individuality when you train, and that part is, that sacrifice is very difficult, I think, for a lot of our very Western Internet-friendly minds about promoting individuality. How different you are, how a certain . . . [00:05:32] You know, "I'm studying this tradition," and the tradition is studying you, is part of the thing that we forget too.  ANDREW: Well, and I think that it's part of the . . . part of the good training, you know, is learning how [00:05:47] to get out of the way and do the work, right?  JESSE: Yeah. ANDREW: You know? Like the . . . you know, I think about the elder Olochas that I trained with and spent time with, or am at ceremonies with, right? And certainly, if there's a [00:06:02] junior person there to put, to open in the coconuts or whatever, they're going to do that, they're going to be like, "Hey, go do that, go mop the floor, go whatever."  JESSE: Yeah. ANDREW: But also, if there's not, they're just going to grab the hammer and go, right? And, [00:06:17] you know, there are these funny things that come from that training and that experience. And, you know, opening coconuts is one of them. You know, I watched the people who are new, you know, in my house come and open coconuts, and, you know, I'm like, I always [00:06:32] look over like, "Oh, they're taking forever!" You know, not in a mean way, but just in a like, you know . . . And then, and that feeling of like, I can open a coconut in no time because I've done hundreds and hundreds of them now.  JESSE: Yep. ANDREW: And, those subtle things that you would, [00:06:47] you know, you would see being in the space with somebody else . . .  JESSE: Yes. ANDREW: Make that big difference, right?  JESSE: Mm-hmm. Even the way the way that we mopped the way that . . . we call it watering your elders, you know, just [00:07:02] the, you have to . . . in a good way, not . . . I don't mean that in a . . . But the idea of culturally, like, I'm . . . Those of us that are more on the introverted side, you know, it's a lot to go and say hello to everyone. It's a lot to enter a room and to each person say hello. [00:07:17] It can be exhausting before the ritual even starts. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: You know, you learn shorthands. Or you find ways to be able to enter into the social language that is needed to be able to access things. But, going around and asking everyone who's older [00:07:32] than you: "Do you want something to drink? Can I get you a coffee? Can I get you a water? Can I get you something?" Even if they say no, it's a lot, for whatever reason, that service-oriented side of things leaves . . . It works both ways in the sense that it allows people to introduce themselves to each other, in [00:07:47] a way that's not just small talk. But also, people see that you are trying to take care of people in the room, and make sure that everyone is comfortable.  And it's an interesting side of things that you know . . . That's [00:08:02] not a critique; it is a critique, but of the Internet culture basis or the book-learned culture of not realizing that the book is still your teacher and it's a one-sided conversation that you don't get to necessarily appeal to the author and ask for clarification, but you didn't [00:08:17] teach yourself. You learned from a book. You didn't teach yourself, because there's a language that you are relying on that is built on clichés and allegories and metaphors and things like that. So, there's, there's . . .  This idea of picking yourself up by your [00:08:32] bootstraps into a magical tradition is not quite necessarily the case even when you're doing it by yourself. And, and, if we believe that spirit is intervening, then spirit is also teaching us as well. And [00:08:47] how well we can refine that, our own inner ear, to listen to that, is also something there. In a community, you know, a community setting, people often ask in online groups, like what books can I read? Read the room, first, like [00:09:02] take the temperature of the room and listen, because, I mean, the best conversations happen at 2 a.m. after all the things are done for the day and the cook finally gets to sit down because the kitchen is shut. ANDREW: Sure. Or they're in there and you're talking to them instead of you know, rushing around. [00:09:17]  JESSE: Yeah.  ANDREW: And then they go, "Hey, come look at this thing that I'm going to do here," right? And even, even in the simplest of things like, you know, cooking the inyales right? Like just cooking the parts of the animals that go to the Orishas. There's all sorts [00:09:32] of stuff to learn about just even a simple thing like that, you know, and if you're engaged with the people and talking to them and have a relationship with them, then they're going to invite you in and be like, "Hey, you know, if you're looking for this, do this this way, or here's a good way to do it," [00:09:47] you know?  Otherwise, you're just, you know, you can do it and it will serve the job but you're missing big swaths of the teaching, right? It's always the thing that I'm really aware of in my, you know, in my position as somebody in Toronto, far [00:10:02] away from regular practice, right? My . . . my knowledge is good. You know, my . . . I mean, there's always things to work on, but my fluency and some of those little details, I'm well aware that it's not as strong [00:10:17] as it would be if I was living somewhere where I got to just work more often, you know, because you can never learn those things from a book. Nobody ever thinks to talk about that. You know? Right? Unless you're in the room with the person and then you're watching them, like, "Hey, what was that? Why'd you put that in there? I didn't see [00:10:32] anybody do this before,” you know?  JESSE: You know, you can read a book about running a marathon, but it's a very different thing to do it.  ANDREW: Right? JESSE: And we talk about that all the time, of like, you know, watching, if someone doesn't know how to mop, and they say they're an active santero. You're like "Hmm, maybe not." But [00:10:48] there's this side of it, of, there's so much, there's different types of knowledge and the modern age promotes one type of knowledge, which is the facts of the, the history of that type of thing that can be transmitted via literature [00:11:03] in that way, in the written word and it's an interesting side of things, but it's very different when the body knows it, when the, when the ways of learning in the body are different from the head. And even . . . [00:11:18]  So, it's an interesting side of, you know, really making sure if someone doesn't know how to do certain things, you train them and even, even, for example, my early years [00:11:33] as an Olocha. I come from a house of a lot of old elders. Like physically, they are more aged. And so even though I could be doing other things, they needed someone to lift the big water buckets and up [00:11:48] and down the stairs and do the heavy lifting and open the coconuts. So even though there were other tasks that I could be doing, I was doing the manual labor, because I was younger . . . ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: And able to do certain things that my amazing elder ladies could not. [00:12:03] And that's an interesting side of things too, because then they sent me out and like, you know, “Go to this house, and start studying with them a little bit here, and then come back and branch out,” so that I could get different experiences.  And I think one of the things that's very interesting with . . . In the history of Santería, [00:12:19] is just because the houses started working with each other, things got very homogenized very quickly, through public opinion, both in a good and a bad way. There are variances to the way things are done, but the variances between the houses are actually pretty small. [00:12:34] You know, there's kind of a liturgized homogenized way to do things that is acceptable. And when you vary too much from that, both out of tradition or vary too much from that out of lack of tradition or lack of knowledge, you kind of get [00:12:49] pulled back into what is the acceptable practice . . . ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: And that's an interesting side of it. So, it's actually preserved a lot through public opinion through the fact that there's seven different lineages represented in a room because you invite [00:13:04] those people to work because in the early days you didn't get a choice on who was coming to work cause you needed people. So, you got anybody, any santero that was in New York City.  ANDREW: Yeah. JESSE: "Come, work this thing!" And so, new traditions kind of, or at least parallel traditions start aligning, they start [00:13:19] coming into a common practice and adaptations have to happen for the modern age. You can't do certain things the way that was done in Cuba or in Nigeria. So, it's . . . Those modifications happen, and elders make those decisions. [00:13:34] When one person makes those decisions, it can get a little crazy. But when a community comes together and says, "How do we resolve this problem? How do we take care of this? Then there's more options, I think. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. For sure. Well, and I think that goes [00:13:49] back to . . . It goes back to kind of a couple questions around that. One is for me, I think that where there are differences in lineage, it's important to know what they are. Even if they're small. It's interesting, where there are lineage [00:14:34] differences, that I think it's really important to become aware of those and know what they are, right? You know, I mean, we are initiated into a lineage, and therefore if our lineage does it a certain way, we should do it that way. And you know, [00:14:49] in these different times, where you go, might go to different houses and do things in different ways, I think that it's important to respect, you know, the way other people do it and also know that when you're in your home, you do it a different way, right? Or when it's your event. But [00:15:04] I think it also creates a lot of unnecessary dialogue and drama, and I think that we see this in all the magical communities, right? At least every one that I've ever been in, which is more than a few. It's this thing of "Well, [00:15:19] we don't do it this way. Therefore, it must be wrong," right?  JESSE: Yes. ANDREW: You know, "This is . . . this is not . . . I've never seen this; therefore, it must be wrong." And I think that, you know, it's such a such a sticky [00:15:34] topic, right? How do we understand what is tradition? What is traditional variance? How do we understand what is, what comes from experience, and what might be other groups' experience that we could integrate?  JESSE: Mm-hmm.  ANDREW: And how do [00:15:49] we . . . And how do we judge what is just, you know, manufactured garbage, right? JESSE: (laughs) ANDREW: To make a few bucks, you know? So. I don't know. What do you think? Give us, give us a guide here, give us some solid rules we can live by. JESSE: Because I'm the authority? (laughs) Authority of [00:16:04] that.  ANDREW: Yeah, I'm giving you all the authority right here. Community of one gives it to you, Jesse! JESSE: Yeah, yeah. I think, obviously reliable or people that you can [00:16:19] confide in and ask opinions on that . . . The chain of eldership is really important and it's not just for this. You know, I don't, I don't support the complete submission to elder guru style where it allows for physical abuse or emotional abuse and that way . . . That is a [00:16:34] model that does exist and has existed but there is a possibility of an elder and mentor elder and minor model that allows for accessing [00:16:49] opinions that can contextualize things based in the knowledge that they have that is more than your own. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: How do you, how do you modify? I think there's the side of it too, that's always interesting, [00:17:04] of when you don't recognize something, if you're secure in what you have, you don't attack the thing you don't know, you just look at it and cook. That's interesting. Let me see where this goes, and you have to wait. Gauge the point of when it seems off and [00:17:19] what is your agenda in making sure that it's correct or incorrect. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: And that personal side of it, the, you know, this idea that there's objective . . . one tradition that was passed down from Adam and Eve, it gets a really, it doesn't serve us. And I . . . Certainly [00:17:34] within the ATRs, I mean, the differences between traditions, houses, the differences between Santería and Candomblé and different Orisha practices are huge. And at the same time, the [00:17:49] Orisha are very flexible in what they, what they say and do, and they're not going to sit there and nitpick, but there are ways, specifically, that the tradition has evolved, to make sure that Orisha comes, that Orisha is there, that is unique to each lineage, unique to each house, it has similarities [00:18:04] and commonalities and landmarks, you know, to . . . that are recognizable. But at the same time there's . . . I don't see elders get as upset about something that's off. [00:18:19] Just minorly off. They'll be like, "Oh, we don't do that," and don't worry about it because "come do it, we do it this way." ANDREW: Yeah. JESSE: I see a lot of people who are younger, get really pissed off about keeping tradition intact. ANDREW: And I've talked to elders who talk about that's [00:18:34] how they felt when they were younger. Right? And be like, "Oh, when I was like 18, I was so mad about all these things. But now I'm like, well, I can see both sides, you know."  JESSE: Yeah. And it's the question of like, do you spend all the time stamping the thing out that you don't like [00:18:49] or do you spend time investing into the model that you feel is more correct and more profitable for people to follow? ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: And, you know, fighting for what you want to see as opposed to what you don't want to see. And there's merits on both sides. I think, personally. [00:19:04] You know, when is it that we don't . . . We try not to innovate a lot of times in ATRs, right? Of like, you innovate through necessity only.  ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: And, a temporary thing that you're still asking clarification on from elders or spirits [00:19:19] or things like this, but you try to innovate as little because otherwise it's not necessarily what you're practicing anymore. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: It's not recognizable. It's not recognizable. And has its own thing. Certainly. [00:19:35] Opinions change as you get older too, and you . . . More experience, it's not just older. What is the Chinua Achebe quote of "Old age is respected and wisdom is revered"? The same thing is similar in our models here of, like, you know, someone who has worked the room for [00:19:50] five years consistently at the foot of an elder is going to know more than someone who's 20 years old and has never worked the room, as much, or worked it once a year. Someone who births a lot of Orisha constantly or is taking a lot of clients is going to have a different opinion of how things function because they realize, [00:20:05] "I don't do it this way because it gets in the way of blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah." ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: Versus, if it's your first time giving, it's like a first-time child. You're going to make a bunch of mistakes. You're going to realize you might put a lot of effort into things that you won't necessarily do on the fourth child down . . . ANDREW: Yeah. JESSE: Because important . . . and that practical [00:20:20] experience, you know, sometimes we just have to suffer through our own inexperience and be humble and keep going to elders and asking opinions and seeing, keeping our eyes open as to what is being done. And if we're in a solitary tradition where it's [00:20:35] less likely that we're going to have an elder who's going to speak to our direct needs, then learn from other things around you that you can, that you admire and can pull in. You know, it's really hard to reinvent the wheel constantly.  ANDREW: Well, I think it's . . . You know, I think it's really interesting because [00:20:50] when I . . . The first store that I read out of have a predominantly Afro-Caribbean clientele. JESSE: Mm-hmm. ANDREW: And, you know, so I was . . . Although I was getting involved in [00:21:05] the Orisha traditions and stuff at that point, I didn't have a ton of experience at all and, and I wasn't initiated as a priest, so it was just mostly my own development that I was focused on. But I, you know, I had done a ton of ceremonial work and you know, initiations [00:21:20] along all those lines, and one of the things that was really interesting was, I would end up having these conversations with you know, spiritual Baptist priests and, you know, other people, and they're like, "You really understand," you know, [00:21:35] whatever it was that they were doing, right? They would always say, "You really understand our tradition. You really understand this. You really understand the African mindset," or whatever, and I understand that they felt that that was true. But I think that what I knew was, what I [00:21:50] actually really understand is magic and I understand that there are generally fundamental things that are kind of true across the board if you're really engaged at a deep level and not, not sort of in the "there's only one faith" [00:22:06] or "there's only one source" or any of that kind of like, you know, Victorian colonial nonsense, right? JESSE: Yeah. ANDREW: But in the sense that when you understand that spirits are real, and you have the capacity to genuinely speak with spirits and [00:22:21] you're going to work with materials, nature, candles, whatever, offerings. Then, then though the surface of those things, or the tradition and lineage piece changes those, there is a fundamental mindset [00:22:36] that, that's there, kind of around the world around those kinds of things. And once you get that, then you can relate at that place, right? Which is completely different than sort of going in and sort of saying, you know, as I've certainly seen other people do, "Well, [00:22:51] yeah, exactly, I know this tradition and the spirits gave it to me and therefore I am able to do this and that and whatever, it's like, no no, no. I know how to talk to spirits. And in fact, often even people, spirits of other people's traditions might lean in a bit through a reading and nudge me in [00:23:06] a given direction. But that's not the same as understanding their traditions or whatever, right?  JESSE: Yeah. Absolutely. The . . . I think that when we're talking about fluency, and magical fluency, we're talking about a practicality, as far as how [00:23:21] to utilize those things in everyday life, and that, that is something that is, I think, palpable when someone knows and can give practical advice, practical actions to achieve certain things, no matter the, no matter the tradition. And [00:23:36] certainly, when it's still theory in someone's head and less pragmatic, you can tell that too. There can be a struggle to articulate something. What are the next steps? And where do you go from here? And we can [00:23:51] talk about cosmology and philosophy which differ from person to person, let alone town to town, or tradition to tradition.  ANDREW: Yeah. JESSE: And those finer points, but the practicality of it, that is, that's something different. You have to be somewhat fluent in order to give [00:24:06] good practical advice on how to move forward, and parroting something is, you know, you first learned by saying what you know, and going off of what you've seen, but the more you can expose yourself to, the more people's styles, you'll start to learn different ways of approaching things. [00:24:21] And certainly, I'm being reminded of a computer search parameter [00:24:36] recently. That was . . . The issue with diagnostic tools from computers or trying to diagnose illness and things like this, is that they're not programmed to look for something that isn't there.  ANDREW: Hmm. JESSE: And this is something that humans can still do very well in that . . . not [00:24:51] just looking for the problem out of the common, of the sets of things are there, but to have a revelation of what could still be needed by the person, not necessarily . . . You know, when someone comes for a reading, there, it's not just their conscious problems we're talking about. We're trying to look and [00:25:06] bring those things that are unconscious to the surface too, to see what is actually the root of something that needs to be addressed, and those things come from having a good foundation in the basics, in order to . . . You [00:25:21] know, you have to do primary colors before you start doing secondary colors and understanding what those things are. You can't mix secondary colors trying to get primary colors. You still have to know what that, that order is, and I think it's very similar in magic. You know, there's basic advice on things and [00:25:36] some people will give out the basic like, you know, here's an uncrossing. Here's a, here's a love drawing, here's a bend over type of working, and those are, those are set vocabularies and other people [00:25:51] might tell you to go light a candle at the base of this tree and the spirit is going to take care of it. And that's the model that they were using, and both are pragmatic in this sense, but I . . .  I wonder how much materialism [00:26:06] still enters in, the kind of Scientific Revolution atheist materialism that sneaks in because that is the paradigm as Westerners that we are raised in, you know, there's some variance in that and based on familial upbringing and religious upbringing. But the idea that spirit [00:26:23] is not necessarily tangible in the same way and it is actually affecting the materia to do the thing is a less popular model. And it's interesting now, like once you get introduced to the concept [00:26:38] of a charged statue or something like that, people want to put loads and everything in. They don't necessarily know what goes in it. They want to know, "Why, why do I put these things there? Am I putting this there to symbolize this?" Whereas in spirit-based traditions the spirit might possess someone, and it could put [00:26:53] anything it wants in that statue and breathe on it or splash it with whatever and now it's charged. It doesn't necessarily have a logic that we can understand as to why it picked that item to represent that thing because it's not representation. It's [having?] something and that is a battery of power that is being used. [00:27:08] Not, did you have all 732 exact ingredients . . .  ANDREW: Exactly. JESSE: To put in. That spirit could go for a walk and pull a clump of herbs and give you one of the most powerful baths you've ever had. Whereas if you try and duplicate it with those same herbs, it's not going to be the same, because you're not . . . ANDREW: Yeah. I was [00:27:23] talking with somebody in the store recently about . . . they were asking me where I get the crystals that I buy, and about the mining practices, you know, and I think that those, those are really important questions, you know, and the short answer is about [00:27:38] half of what I have, what I sell, I know, I know pretty clearly where it comes from, and short of, you know, hopping on a plane and going to the mine, I feel like the people I'm buying from, who are buying directly from the miners, [00:27:53] you know, I believe them, you know. It's the best we can do in this in this day and age, you know.  A bunch of the other stuff, I'm far less clear about where that comes from and, and you know, I would like to reduce that [00:28:08] amount, you know, to be clearer that there's no human rights violations and horrible environmental destruction and so on. But it's, but it's complicated and it's difficult and you know in this industry for sure, and in tons of industries. They [00:28:23] were asking me about the magical influence of where, of where something comes from and how it's handled along the way and all of these kinds of things, right? Is the stone that you know where and how it was [00:28:38] mined different than the stone where you don't?  And, and when I was talking with them about it, I mean, certainly I have my own political and social view on that stuff, which is, I think that the stuff that is harvested [00:28:53] with respect is always, is always better whenever we can manage it. You know, whenever I harvest things, I always harvest them with a lot of respect. And I think that that's a great thing. But I think that there's kind of a, also another question mixed in that, [00:29:08] which is, where does the actual magic of what you're doing reside, right? And in the context of a stone, right? Is it concretely in the minerals and the energy of that? And [00:29:23] I think that that's, that's part of it, you know, there there's really interesting crystal books that talk about the, you know, how the crystals form and how that magic, how the energy of that relates to their sort of fundamental crystalline structure that varies from different stones [00:29:38] and you know, you've got color and you've got different participations and all that kind of stuff. And what other things activate this, right?  JESSE:  Mm-hmm. ANDREW: And you know, there's the power of the thing in and of itself, but kind of as you're saying, there's also what the spirit might want, right?  JESSE: Yes. ANDREW: Like, you know, if I'm working with, you [00:31:37] know, one of my guides, and my guide says, you know, grab me, grab me a piece of iron pyrite and let's do this with it. JESSE: Mm-hmm. ANDREW: Certainly the . . . certainly the element is important, but the activation of that particular spirit through that element is [00:31:52] way more important in that equation, probably. You know, the actual force through which the spirit makes the change or consecrates that thing, you know, and consecrating a statue is a good example of that, right? You know. That is the force of the spirit making [00:32:07] something and putting it together and anchoring it. And then we get into . . .  And then sort of the third thing that I see which is related but not exactly the same which is you know, especially with things like plants and stuff like that, right? There is also the [00:32:22] living entity which is that plant in and of itself right and not necessarily just the specific one that you're working with, but the sort of deeper energy of a given, you know, a given plant in the world, you know, like [00:32:37] ayahuasca or other things. You know, people, you know often talk about that as an entity that wants to return to the world, but I think that that's actually fundamentally true of the bow trees in the front of my shop and, you know my crown [00:32:52] of thorns plant, and all of those things, and it knows I'm definitely, in the way that I'm working with them in the space, connecting with the collective entity of that plant, you know? And so, I think that this [00:33:07] this idea of how are we working and what are we doing is so interesting and I think it's something that people don't really see those distinctions. I don't hear them talked about, you know? JESSE: Mm-hmm. ANDREW: So, I'm curious what you think about them. JESSE: Yeah, [00:33:23] I . . . something that comes to mind. I have, as long as I've been crowned actually, so a dozen years, been working with an experimental Theater Company here in New York City called Dzieci. And it's [00:33:38] using theater as a tool to investigate something else. But that's [lost audio at 33:45?] is unique to each person. But we're talking about investigating the sacred through the tool Le Théâtre. Through the means of theater. [00:33:53] And this intentionality, this question of intentionality is quite interesting to explore. And a question that gets posed a lot by the director, and then as we start something, is when does [00:34:08] the ritual begin? ANDREW: Mm. JESSE: And, is it when you have the audience fully there and in a theater context and the play starts? Well, no, it started long before that with the rehearsal process and then again, when did it start before that? And the question is when you bring [00:34:23] it . . . You know, for me, the answer and it seems to be a common thought on this, is when you bring awareness to it. ANDREW: Mm. JESSE: And so, if I know that I'm doing an important ritual next week and every day I'm waking up going, "I'm doing this next week. What can I do today to manifest that more [00:34:38] smoothly and make sure?" Then making sure all your bills are paid and you know, the bag lunches are done for the day and everything, that becomes part of the ritual.  ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: And there's this interesting question of intentionality, when you know that something is ethically harvested [00:34:53] and you're going to the store but you're in a tizzy and distracted going to the store and you're not present when you're picking up the crystal and you're putting it on the thing and you know, talking on the cell phone and looking at things. What are you doing to destroy the intentionality of that good harvest act?  ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: I mean there's that side of it too, that's always interesting to me, of, [00:35:08] you know, you can have good ingredients prepared by bad chefs. ANDREW: Yep. JESSE: And you can get shitty ingredients prepared by expert chefs that still taste better. You can have ingredients, you can have a horrible angry chef prepare something masterfully because they know how to treat the [00:35:23] food and maybe they're compartmentalizing their emotion. Maybe they're not. They're . . . that missing ingredient of grandmother love that goes into the cookies: Does it make it taste better? Does it not? And you know, it is, I think for all of us, the question of intentionality is an interesting side of it [00:35:38] of what are we bringing to it? And how we contributing to these seeds? You know, I think, I like to look at things as seeds of potential . . . ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: And certain things allow them to mature and grow. The side of [00:35:53] it of looking at: What is it that that makes something work? What is it that allows something to happen? [00:36:08] I think anybody that can say definitively is selling something . . . ANDREW: (chuckles) And they probably have a great brand name trademark . . .  JESSE: Absolutely! ANDREW: Attached to it. Right?  JESSE: Yeah, I think the [00:36:23] exploration of that and the curiosity of that is what, for me at least, drives me to constantly keep practicing that you know that you can . . . Like you were saying earlier, that sometimes, you know, if there's someone there that can mop [00:36:38] the floor, open the coconut, there's a way to enter into that, where sometimes the task just has to get done and that person is learning it and they're going to make their mistakes. There's other times. I remember recently . . . We were short staffed at an Ocha ritual and I was the one on my hands and knees mopping, because normally would be someone else [00:36:53] and that's fine, because I'm usually assisting someone. But the . . . I had such pure joy in mopping the floor of just, like it was such an interesting thing of caretaking and, and kind of going into the trance of mopping, which was an interesting thing too, of still remaining present enough to know what [00:37:08] else was going on in the room, so that I'm not mopping something carelessly. ANDREW: Mm-hmm.  JESSE: But also, this balance of, I guess it is a little bit of Zen and the art of peeling potatoes. But also for those of us that get lost in our heads, to be present enough and aware [00:37:23] enough of what else is going on, so that if you know the something escapes, you know, whether it's a child, a chicken, or a potato rolling down the hallway, that you're able to notice it and catch it, not that the chick, child is rolling down the hallway, but I [00:37:38] . . . hopefully that metaphor still makes sense.  ANDREW: Yeah. Well, it's one of those things too. For me, I think one of the big differences between before making Ocha and after making Ocha. Or maybe [00:37:53] before receiving Orishas and after receiving Orishas is, when I work the tradition, whatever that is, I can feel the joy of the Orishas themselves, you know? JESSE: Mm-hmm. ANDREW: Like [00:38:08] when I tell them, like well I'm going to feed him something, and you know, I mean, that might be a sacrifice, but it might just be like, "I'm just gonna, you know, hey, I'm going to cook you this. I'm going to toast up all this corn for you," and you know, whatever. You can feel that energy, right? [00:38:23]  JESSE: Yeah.  ANDREW: And I feel like that energy extends to mopping the floor to you know, like all of these kinds of things, right? To, you know, even some of the less pleasant things like plucking, you know, plucking the chickens [00:38:38] after, or, you know wrestling with a ram that got out in the rain, or you know, whatever right? It's just like, it doesn't really matter, from my experience, you know, and maybe this is just me, but I think that it's part of this thing, because that, that service [00:38:53] to the spirits and their pleasure in it, you know, lifts up everything else. Right?  JESSE: Well, I think it's an interesting parallel too, of a . . .It would seem to me, at least the way that I understood [00:39:08] Greek myths and Norse myths presented to me as a child, even reading like Edith Hamilton. . .  ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: They were very anthropomorphized, the gods. So, anthropomorphized that there wasn't . . . it was hard to imagine that they were appearing in nature. They just owned [00:39:23] nature. And it seems that, you know, as my understanding of these things matures that perhaps that is a kind of modern revamping of a lot of pagan ideology and pagan theology . . . ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: But I'm [00:39:38] in one of Matthery's books, I believe, he's interviewing a priestess of Yemayá, in Nigeria, and talks to her and, and she talks about other [00:39:53] people worship their deities. We do our deities. And that when she interacts with water in any conscious level, she is participating in Yemayá. That Yemayá is an act of mopping or washing a body or washing the self or cooking and that water itself has a respect [00:40:08] and a consciousness and that consciousness, for her, was named Yemayá.  ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: So, it was this concept and we talk about this, and the Spanish verb hacer does this very well, hacer tonto, you're doing something, you're making Santo, that when we participate in these [00:40:23] activities, we're actually participating in Orisha. Orisha is not a human. Orishas have incarnated as humans. But Orisha is as much the sound that the drum makes and gives us pleasure. Orisha is the flash of insight of a new idea. [00:40:38] Orisha is the feeling that we should go left and not right at this intersection, you know, there's things that are in the body that is not just in the head. The head leads it, of course, but it is broader and more experiential [00:40:53] and then the body becomes an extension of the head and the head grows because it is experiencing the world and I think there's something different.  You know, mopping, you are, you are participating in an Orisha act that is yes, you're finding the joy. But it was also that the deities of [00:41:08] water that are there, that bathing can become a sacred act again. Like when does the ritual begin; when you bring attention to it. And you could make everything about the spirits that you're serving, or you could make very little and only be like a Sunday religionist, as you know, we talk [00:41:23] about. You know, it's a controversial thing to talk about the lack of ability to have separation of church and state but religion is there to justify politic, it always has been, the concept of religion. Karen Armstrong goes into that and I promote her all the time, just [00:41:38] because I find her such a fascinating . . . She's an ex-nun that writes on religion and her book, Fields of Blood, looks at religion and violence. And she talks about that that individual religion and spirituality is a very different thing than organized religion that is sitting there trying [00:41:53] to justify the actions of people in power. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: Whereas the concept of religiosity or spirituality and those things . . . But what we do in our day-to-day is up to is each of us, but it's not just about going to church on Sunday, [00:42:08] promoting the separation of that, thinking that going to church on Sunday makes you a good person because you went . . . it's part of it. But how do you treat your family? How do you treat your co-workers? How do you treat the people around you? You know, how do you treat the land you're on? And this is a . . . It's not for everyone, because [00:42:23] it's very difficult to constantly be on in that mode. It takes practice. It's a muscle that you have to build and stretch. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: And I do think that mopping, and carrying buckets of groceries up and down stairs, is a way of stretching [00:42:38] that muscle, or at least it can be when you present it in that way. If you're just bossing someone around, and say, "Go do this, go do this, go do this," they may not see that they're stretching a muscle.  ANDREW: Yeah. JESSE: That's, you know, that's the thing too, is responsible training. You have to say, why are you doing this? Because if [00:42:53] we all stop to take out the trash, we can't do prepare for the ritual that has to happen. But if you, who cannot be on that side of the curtain or do and be in that room at that time, can take out the trash, then you've helped us do that ritual. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: It is [00:43:08] part of it. It's that way of, what was the thing where the man was . . . A president was going to look at the space program and asked the janitor who he was and what he did, and he said, "This is my name and I'm [00:43:23] helping build to send men into space," you know, that it was the responsibility or the contextualized importance of every single task in a temple.  ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: Very real thing. And if that person doesn't know, someone else is going to have to do it and hopefully take away [00:43:38] from that person balancing the books that day, but that's . . . it's an interesting thing. You see it in different religious communities. I'm friends with some nuns in Connecticut, at the Benedictine Abbey there, and it's so interesting to see, because they follow the Liturgy [00:43:53] of the Hours, their work spurts are two hours. They work really really hard for two hours, and they stop, change, and sing for a half hour to an hour depending on which what the liturgy is that day and then go back to work again. Though there's no warm-up [00:44:08] to working. They know they only have two hours, but they also don't rush. Which is like, "You're gonna do it, you're gonna get to work," and that's great. ANDREW: I think that that, also that dedication, right? Like they're gonna, they're gonna stop and sing, you know? It's like before [00:44:24] before I got married, my spirits, you know, my ancestors, in a mass, and a misa, were basically like, "We want you to go to church before you get married. We know you're not getting it in church. That's fine. But we want [00:44:39] you to go to a mass." And we were like, "All right," and so I went, and it was it was me and my partner and one other person in this massive, like, Anglican Church at 5 p.m. on a Friday night. And [00:44:54] I remember being there and it was very obvious that like, all the people in the congregation actually had no idea what to do because the priest was like, "Is anybody actually going to come up and take communion or should we just carry on," right? Like, oh, I didn't know this was the point, right? [00:45:09] Which is amusing, but it was also very obvious to me that if nobody had been there, he would have just done the mass.  JESSE: Yeah.  ANDREW: You know? And that like, that sort of devotion of, "We're going to stop and sing, [00:45:24] we're going to do this, we're going to do this thing." I think that kind of devotion is just astounding, you know, it's so wonderful.  JESSE: you're speaking to me very true to Dzieci. We do a piece every year around this time. We [00:45:39] just had our first performances of it, but, called Fool's Mass, which is based on the kind of feast of fools idea from the, from the early modern and medieval period. But it's a [00:45:54] bunch of fools who are have to do the Christmas Mass, even though the priest just died. The exploration. It's a buffoonery piece and it's, there are extreme elements of humor and tragedy in it. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: But the idea that this choir [00:46:09] comes together to sing and normally, you know, we play characters of different ability and, and function and, and responsibilities and some of us are troublemakers and other people are rule followers and what that chaos ensues, but [00:46:24] we know that there's songs that we sing and come together and there's something that's profound there in the in the silence and listening to each other as well. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: And the chaos breaks out again, and how do you do this? How do you . . . how do you continue? In what you know, even [00:46:39] if there's no leader, how do you . . . I always find it interesting, like the dynamic of a classroom when the teacher has to leave to take, to go to the bathroom or something like that? Like, does it function as the same? It depends on the . . . how the teacher has run faster a lot of times. But [00:46:55] it's a, it's an interesting side of things. Doing what you know, when you know to do it is still, lots of times we're like, "Oh, the authority figure's not here, I don't have to do it this way. I could do it this other way."  ANDREW: Exactly, right?   JESSE: And [00:47:10] you go, okay, what did I just lose and what did I gain from that? What was the actual benefit from not doing it the exact way I know how? And so many times I think that, you know, it can come up in our systems [00:47:25] of divination, right? That you have the tools, you know exactly what the problem is, and you're not using them.  ANDREW: Yeah.  JESSE: You know? There's nothing new here. There's no new problems. You know what, you know, every problem that comes up, you know exactly why it's there and you have the tools to fix it, but you're not doing it. So, what do you what [00:47:40] are you looking for here? You know, that's, that's an interesting thing too.  ANDREW: Yeah, I think it's such an interesting question, you know? Again, as somebody who's sort of far away from regular practice, you know, not having not having an extended community here, [00:47:55] you know, I've definitely, I've definitely run into this sort of angsty emotional piece. And I'm like, "Ah, I got nothing to do. I don't know what to work on. I got nothing to practice," or whatever, and this desire to learn more, right? And, and, [00:48:10] what I noticed at one point was, I was like, "Well, that's cool if there's more to learn and there's always more to learn," but also, how solid's your singing of Osain, [00:48:25] right? How solid is this piece? How about you, like, you know, make sure that you can, like, say the prayer for each of the Orishas, you know, the Oríkì, or learn a song for . . . There's often so much [00:48:40] in our immediate vicinity that we can tend to, and if we take that agency back to ourselves, right?  JESSE: Yeah. ANDREW: And that way of like, you know, well, what do we, what do we do when there is nobody else watching? Right. JESSE: Mm-hmm. ANDREW: I think it's . . . I think that that [00:48:55] is . . . That's where the real work is, right?  JESSE: Yeah. ANDREW: I mean, the rest of it is a bunch of work too and you know, not to dismiss it. But at least for me that real work is: I'm here. I'm doing this thing, whether it's, you [00:49:10] know, Orisha stuff or other stuff with my guides or you know, working on the cards or other projects. It's always that question of like: Okay, what do I need to do? How do I make myself do it? How do I do the stuff that doesn't seem glamorous but moves it all forward, [00:49:25] you know, and how do you find the joy with that, so you can sort of continue with devotion around it, you know, or faith, or those kind of old-fashionedy words, right?  JESSE: Yeah, and also the benefit of when you approach things in [00:49:40] that way, it only informs the other things you're doing. ANDREW: Mm-hmm.  JESSE: So, meaning, you know, you're going back to basics and finding new interesting things in them. Then it means that the possibility of you finding new ways and new depths to everything you're doing, because again, it's that muscle that you're stretching that is [00:49:55] developing a way of looking at the world, and, and aligning your feet to a new path. Perhaps it's the same path and you're learning it better, you know, it's nice to return to the things we know sometimes and realize that, oh gosh, there's a lot more here to examine. That [00:50:10] side of it. I know that's wonderful to be able to really examine what it [00:50:25] is that we know and develop the questions of ourselves of like okay, you think you know this for sure, and that's great, but what happens when you do it again? Do it one more time! ANDREW: mm-hmm. JESSE: I guess, for me, my background's, undergrad, is in theater [00:50:40] and doing things again is not a problem.  ANDREW: Yeah. JESSE: Over and over and over. There is something of benefit when you have something so memorized. It allows for a new freedom in finding things [00:50:55] out. And it's not the same as reading the prayer, you know, there's a difference there. And what is it to do this and how you say it and what it opens your mind up to. It's like Catholic parallel of the rosary, that saying the prayers is just the bare minimum. Saying [00:51:10] the prayers of the rosary is the minimum. The visualization that is supposed to happen, because the prayers are by rote and coming out of your mouth, and your hand knows to feel for what beads it's saying. That you're actually envisioning mysteries as you're going through the rosary, is, that's level 2 and above, but [00:51:25] you know, if all you know is the prayers and that's what you do . . . ANDREW: Yeah. Well, and it's like, you know, watching, you know watching elders conduct ceremony, right? They're singing a song, they're doing a thing. They see somebody doing something they [00:51:40] shouldn't be and they don't even lose a beat and they're like, "Put the bucket of water down, blah blah blah blah," and they go right back to it, you know? And sometimes they even just sing it in the tune of what's going on, right? Which is always amusing. JESSE: Yes. Yeah, it is! (laughing) ANDREW: And, and that kind of fluency is just [00:51:55] you know, it's so profound. And it comes from that showing up and being present and having walked it so many times and all of that kind of stuff. Yeah. It's such a, such a fascinating thing to see in practice. And it comes out of this, [00:52:10] so much experience with it, right?  JESSE: Yeah. ANDREW: Like being on theater, you know, on stage, when the person you're across from like, says the wrong line, what do you do, right? JESSE: You don't shoot them the right line. You've got to . . . and successful theater something that is [00:52:25] a wonderful exploration is, making each other look good. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. JESSE: You know, in ritual there's so much correction in the way that things can happen. But how can you correct the person so that they are empowered to embrace this correction you're giving them because you get [00:52:40] flustered. And everybody's gonna respond to that differently. But you know, how can you make the person look good still and explain to them, "Hey, there's this better way, try it like this." ANDREW: Yeah. JESSE: And, and, and really, because then they're open to the critique. They're open to the correction. And they don't feel ashamed. But, there's [00:52:55] also, we have to get over our shame, too. Especially in the oral traditions, because you're going to be corrected in front of other people. ANDREW: All the time! JESSE: And, you know, there's, I remember thinking about the profundity of . . . you know, we talk about our attitudes when were younger and [00:53:10] things, and enter member serving Egun before a ritual once, and everybody's talking and really only the people up at the front right at the shrine are actually paying attention to what's going on, and it was frustrating, and "I can't believe people aren't paying attention!" And realizing like, I am so not present because I'm [00:53:25] so concerned with everybody not paying attention that I'm not paying attention either, and it was just the like, oh my God, it all works if one person is focused up front, the whole thing, the whole ceremony is approved if one person, one conscious act makes [00:53:40] it happen. And then it's like it's great if the whole room is aligned, it's great if everybody will be quiet and focus. Its great of what that is, but it also is humbling to realize how much profound change or acceptance or of a new trajectory can happen with [00:53:55] just one person focusing. ANDREW: Mm-hmm. For sure. JESSE: And being on point and on task and that's really beautiful.  ANDREW: Yeah. Well, maybe that's a good place to leave it. Go out there, folks. Be present! Listen, learn, and be kind to yourself and others, [00:54:10] you know, so we can all grow and expand and get wherever it is we're going to go with all of our magical practices. Yeah. Thanks for hanging out with me today, Jesse and being on here. I deeply appreciate it.  JESSE: My pleasure.  ANDREW: You've got all sorts of great [00:54:25] stuff going on online. People want to check it out. Where should they come and find you?  JESSE: The store I run is Wolf and Goat, so wolf-and-goat.com. You can type it without the dashes as well. We're on [00:54:40] Facebook as well. I do a podcast with Dr. Al Cummins, called Radio Free Golgotha intermittently. We're on Facebook as well. But RadioFreeGolgotha.com. If you're interested in Para theater and want to do some strange [00:54:55] explorations of self and the world around you through theater. DzieciTheatre.org DzieciTheatre with an R, E, dot org. ANDREW: Spelled just like it sounds. JESSE: Yeah. (laughs) It means [00:55:10] children in Polish. And, I'm sure there's many other things I'm forgetting. But generally, I'm around a lot online, and even more so, in the back alleys of New York, I suppose, so, it's, [00:55:25] it's a pleasure and thanks for having me on, Andrew.  ANDREW: Oh, thank you.      

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On this episode of Around The Ring "Your Floyd and Savior" is joined by "Dirty" Dan Rueb and special guest host Lindsey Chauvin as we preview Backlash, look at 2 significant matches in NJPW, discuss who we think is the face of the WWE. Also on this episode we have an interview with one of ATRs favorite wrestlers Chandler "The Truth" Hopkins as we discuss his future plans.

On this episode of Around The Ring "Your Floyd and Savior" is joined by "Dirty" Dan Rueb and special guest host Lindsey Chauvin as we preview Backlash, look at 2 significant matches in NJPW, discuss who we think is the face of the WWE. Also on this episode we have an interview with one of ATRs favorite wrestlers Chandler "The Truth" Hopkins as we discuss his future plans.

This week I'm joined by the one and only Ty Shaw. We dive deep into our connections with the Orishas and Ty talks us through some of her sexual empowerment work and how they all connect. Her work covers old traditions and new traditions, and her dedication to her practise is inspiring. This is one not to be missed! Connect with Ty through her website.  If you are interested in supporting this podcast though our Patreon you can do so here. If you want more of this in your life you can subscribe by RSS , iTunes, Stitcher, or email. Thanks for listening! If you dig this please subscribe and share with those who would like it. Andrew   transcription  ANDREW: Welcome to another installment of The Hermit's Lamp podcast. I am hanging out today with Ty Shaw, who is a fascinating human being. She practices a bunch of different traditions, and brings a lot of, you know, experience in a lot of different ways through life and spirituality to the conversation today. So, for folks who don't know who you are, Ty, why don't you introduce yourself? What -- Who are you and what are you about? TY: Oh, my god. Ooh child. Well, I am Ty Shaw, like you just said, and what am I about? I'm a Iyalorisa, palera Mambo, and a lot of other things, oh iyanifa, that's the most recent one! Always forget to list that one! ANDREW: Right. TY: And basically, what I have been doing is working with people within the tradition. I was obviously with my spiritual house, and the various, you know, people that I service in my communities, but my sort of day job now is in the space of sacred sexuality coaching, intimacy coaching, and really bringing, particularly, well, people in general, but women in particular, in alignment with sort of their spirituality and their sexuality, and kind of bridging that gap, and working in a space where people understand that when you talk about sacred sexuality that you don't have to look to India or to China or to Japan or to these other places, that we do have concepts of sacred sexuality from an African context ... ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: If you're willing to actually look at what we're doing and examine what we're doing. ANDREW: All right. Well, why don't you enlighten us on that? Because I know, you know, being a babalocha, right, you know? That sex, at least sex in general is very, we keep that inside of the Orisha tradition, you know, not inside of the tradition, but outside of the relationships and the connections there, you know, and people are often like, very slow to even get into conversations like that, because there is such an emphasis on having proper relationships and where those lines are ... TY: Right. ANDREW: So, where does that come from in what your experiences are for you? TY: Well, that's exactly why I do this work. Because our traditions are very conservative in how they look at sex ... ANDREW: Yeah. TY: Which to me, is not only counterproductive but contradictory, because everything we do mimics a sexual act on some level. If we want to take, say the babalawo for example, when the oluwo is pounding ikin, the oluwo is mimicking copulation, such that ikin, or odu, can give birth. When we go into the igbodú and we want to birth a new priest in the process of a kariocha, we are using the leads, singing the songs, doing the invocations ... ANDREW: Sure. TY: To get certain elements to give birth. You know, if we're sitting on the mat and we're divining with the odun and odí falls, or some iteration of oché, or something out of ogunda falls, we're going to be talking some sexual shit. [laughs] You know what I'm saying? ANDREW: I do! TY: Can you talk -- we deal with deities who cover these specific things. And, we deal with energy. We're priests. We understand that, just from a basic scientific perspective, that energy is neither created nor destroyed. It's how it's directed. So that means there is no difference between spiritual energy and sexual energy. And the fact that we vibrate on a different level as priests because we actively cultivate our energy -- we're cultivating our sexuality as well. And I think the fact that our traditions are so conservative, and don't allow for these deeper conversations, even though the liturgy, odu, the deities themselves, do speak of these things and act in these ways, because we haven't had these conversations and developed that language, we have what we see now, which is the manifestation of a plethora of, or an abundance rather, of sexual dysfunction, in an out of ritual in an out of the room, and a community of priests who are manipulating energies, but really have no basic concept of what energy is, how it works, and what you're conjuring. [laughs] So that's why I decided to get in that space. ANDREW: Yeah! So, when you're ... because lots of people who listen to this are not going to be practitioners of ATRs, or, you know, diasporic traditions or those things necessarily, let's pull this apart just a little bit more. Because I know exactly what I think you mean -- I mean, you're going to tell me if I'm right -- but -- I think one of the things that we want to make clear, is that some of the dysfunction that I think that you're talking about, I mean there's obviously the people who are having challenges themselves, which is a separate issue, but then there's the sort of dysfunction of people taking advantage of relationships, godparents, or other people who should be obeying a taboo that is like a parent to a child ... TY: Right. ANDREW: You know, or having relationships and using their power and position to take advantage of people. Right? We're talking about these kinds of things, right? TY: Right. Right. ANDREW: Yeah. TY: Well, one thing about that, we're talking about even in our intermittent relationships, we are seeing a lot of abuse coming to the surface, because of Facebook, sexual abuse, women who are being raped by their babalawo husbands, or men that I've encountered in this tradition who come seeking guidance and were molested by a godparent. You know? We have an abundance of people of color, amongst those people of color are women of color, and I personally in my adult life don't know any women of color who haven't experienced sexual abuse or sexual assault. So, we have this abundance of sort of sexual trauma, that comes up in our relationships in so many different ways, whether it's the baggage we bring to the tradition, or whether it's the abuse of power because of the dynamic within the tradition. But we still because of our conservativism, we don't have that conversation. ANDREW: Right. TY: And when we do, it's an accusatory one: You abused me. You did this. You didn't do booze up the bembé. You tried to take my husband. You know. But we don't necessarily have conversations around what the solutions are. What we're going to do about it. How do you fix them? If you're a babalawo that's married, and you have your apetdabe, how are you cultivating that sacred relationship? ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: Because that's our version of it! [laughs] You know what I'm saying? In a certain way. On a certain level. ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: How are we cultivating our intimate relationships? How does that affect our vibration and our energy and how we cultivate our Ase as priests, and then what does that look like in terms of how do we treat each other in our interpersonal relationships? ANDREW: Sure. And how are we dealing with our own ... I mean, even if we don't have the kinds of traumas you're talking about, you know, we all exist in a culture that, you know, experiences toxic masculinity, and rape culture, and all of these bits and pieces and all sorts of exploitative pieces left over from a long time, in our culture, right? TY: Yes. ANDREW: And how do we look at ourselves and become clear about what is our desire? What is real? How do we communicate? Where does consent fit? TY: Right. ANDREW: You know, all of these things, right? Like these are important pieces ... TY: Yeah. ANDREW: Of cultivating ... Well, I mean, being a decent human being, for one, but like, and certainly being a spiritual human being for another, right? You can't. TY: Yeah. And we can't deal with these forces that again, we're engaging in sort of spiritual sexual acts in the process of giving birth and getting odu to conceive and put something out there that's new, and then appeasing this newborn thing via ebbó. We do these things, but there's a disconnect, there's some sort of cognitive dissonance, you know, between the act and the metaphysical understanding of the act, you know? Mmmhmm. ANDREW: I also think that people don't understand energy, as you kind of said earlier. Right? TY: Yeah, exactly, exactly. ANDREW: You know, one of the things that I noticed when I became a priest was, all sorts of people who started hitting on me who weren't hitting on me before. TY: Yeah, because you were orisha. ANDREW: Right? And I got Shango on my head, right? I mean, that's going to draw some heat, right? And, you know, and the thing is, is that, if I wasn't mindful of it, if some of my elders hadn't said, hey, this is probably going to happen, take it easy about that, then you'd get into all sorts of trouble, right? Because what's going on is those people aren't necessarily attracted to me ... TY: It's that energy! ANDREW: They're feeling that energy, and they want more of that, but we don't understand how to get close to spirit, or how to be intimate with human beings, and not frame that in a sexual context. Right? TY: Or, if it's in a sexual context, that doesn't mean we have to act in a debased way. How about receiving the energy because we are, like Shango is the pillar of virility, male virility, male marknotism, that's his Ase, and it is sexual, there's no way around that. How about we accept that that's what it is, internalize it, and use it for what it does? As opposed to saying, well, I feel arousal, this means I must screw, this means I must ... you know. As opposed to no, these are what vibrations and energy do, and you know that's why I started getting into vibrational medicine, you know, prana, reiki, tantric projection work, because we already have heightened vibrations as a result of having gone through ritual. And ideally, we're cultivating our Ase, cultivating ori, we're developing and uplifting that vibration. But so many priests I would have a conversation with about energy, vibration, how we magnetize it and move, there was just such a lack of understanding, and a lot of times I feel that we're doing ebbó, we're killing chickens, but what you need is a chakra cleanery, what you need is a past life regression, what you need is some spiritual counseling, it's an issue on a base level with your vibration. Which ebbó does address, through the power of sacrifice, but you're still not internalizing that in your vibration. ANDREW: Well, it's like I popped my collar bone out of place, recently, right? And, you know, I went to my osteopath and put it back in place, but the reason I popped it out of place, was cause muscles in my back were out of balance, and that is a physiotherapy thing, and so now I need to be ... you know, and so, and I think that that's true on many levels, right? Spiritual practices can make adjustments ... TY: Mmmhmm. ANDREW: And, in different kinds of spiritual practices, can be that physiotherapy ... TY: Right. ANDREW: But it's rare that one does all of them at the same time, right? You know? It's like you go for a reading with the Orishas, and they're going to, you know, realign your vertebrae, and be like this is where you should be and then you're going to leave, and all those wonky muscles and your habits are going to want to pull you back out of place, right? And whether that's energetic, or your circumstance, or your psychology, or whatever, right? Or the various baggage you're carrying with you? That's all that energy that wants to kind of disalign you again, right? TY: Right. And I think that's one of the major critiques I've had, like if anybody has seen my Facebook videos, I've done a lot of critiquing about what I think is healthy versus what I don't think is healthy, right? ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: And in that sort of process, not understanding energy has led this new generation of people that are kind of coming into the tradition with a level of ... how would I say, like a lack of respect for tradition? And in that process, they stereotype and pigeonhole certain energies because there's a fundamental misunderstanding of energy. So, like for example, I see this wave of new women coming into sacred sexuality, and not everyone's a child of Ochún. Because they think, okay, Ochún, sacred whore, sacred prostitute, no idea where that comes from, but this is what they say, and this is what they think, right? When it's like, Ochún, first of all, it's a stereotyping of this energy, because you don't even understand what you're talking about, it's a pigeonholing and it's a limiting of her, because depending on the road, you might be dealing with the crone, you might be dealing with the witch, you might be dealing with the demure healer, you might be dealing with something like Ochún Ibu Kwanda, the warrior. Who ain't got nothing to do with your coquette. [laughs] ANDREW: Yeah, for sure, right? TY: When people don't understand energy, when we don't understand how things work, and we stereotype, and we pigeonhole, we do everybody a disservice ... ANDREW: Yeah. TY: We don't, we don't get access to the thing, you know, that's really going to ... ANDREW: Yeah, I think that, I think it's challenging, because there's such a profound and sort of largely ... If you're outside of the tradition, largely inaccessible depth and diversity that's there, right? TY: Mmmhmm. ANDREW: You know, how many roads of Ochún are there? How many roads of ... you know? You know, this, that, and all those other spirits, right? TY: Right. ANDREW: And what do those things mean, right? TY: Mmmhmm. ANDREW: And what do ... and what if you're dealing with, I mean, you know, if you're dealing with those, or running into those, or if those are the paths or avatars that are sort of engaging with you, it's completely different to have one versus the other, right? TY: Yeah, right. ANDREW: There's the Yemaya who pulls you down to the bottom of the ocean, right? TY: Yep. ANDREW: And leaves you there! TY: And leave y'all! ANDREW: Right. And then there's those other paths that are going to love you and hold you while you cry and pat your back, right? TY: Oh, there's this my path, Achaba, who's just the shady one, who don't want to ... ANDREW: Yeah. Right? TY: You know. There's koha ibun shade .... ANDREW: [laughs] TY: But I love her, I love her. But that's why, like in my work ... Okay, I had become a palera , I became a iyalosha, I became a mom, though I became a iyanifa, and then I was like, well, why do I want to do any of this? What does this mean to me? What does priesting look like for me? ANDREW: Sure. TY: Do I ... Am I going to be able to do it in the way maybe my elders did it? Do I believe in the same things? What is this priesthood thing going to actually play out for me? And I found that in ... And I'm a young santera, you know what I'm saying, so, I mean, I'm 5 in Ocha this year -- no, I'm six. Am I six already? Shit! But anyway. ANDREW: It's really stacking up, right? [laughter] TY: You know, so I'm a baby olosha. Infant. And, in the process of me coming into adulthood as a nealOrisha, growing up and kind of going through adolescence, now, I have to ... I decided to consciously ... consciously move into priesthood. What is this priesthood thing going to look like for me? Where is going to be my medicine? What's going to be my point of departure? And that has always been whole person healing. What am I dealing with? What is Yamaya bringing to my doorstep? And yes, I can solve this with ebbó, but after ebbó, what is going to -- and that creates transformation -- but what's going to last? What's going to stick? What's going to change behavior? You know? And that's when I decided to go ... that my route was really as a healer ... ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: Getting into the spiritual development of the person, and then when I was trying to figure out well what healing would look like, outside of energy healing and spiritual cleanings and stuff, what I found is, that what people were lacking was the counsel and a way to really work through trauma, particularly trauma held within the body, of a sexual nature. And our tradition was no exception to that. So, it spoke to me of just the niche, that made sense, that I could kind of slide on into, you know? ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: So right now, it sounds like priesting for me is looking like being really woman/Goddess-centered, really witchy, and really focused on long-lasting transformation. ANDREW: Mmm. TY: In or outside of an igbodú or a new set of elekes, or the reception of a new Orisha. ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: [laughs] You know what I'm saying? ANDREW: For sure, because so many, you know, I'm also a relatively young olocha, you know, but lots of people who come around for that part of what I do, they, so many of them almost show up with their shopping list, right? They're like, I'm coming to you, I want you to give me my elekes, please confirm that I'm a child of whomever, you know? And like, and so on, and it's like ... I don't know. Like, you know, let's see what happens, right? Whereas, when people come to me in my sort of card reading and you know, that other magical side of my life ... A lot of those things are more like what I think that all of it should be, which is, let's see what's going on, let's talk about what you need, let's work on this, and make that change so that it endures, right? TY: Right. ANDREW: Because it's so easy to, you know, when I made Ocha, Shango basically said to me, it was like, "Hey, welcome, you're here, so go fix your life, cause you've got some things that are messy that you made, and now you gotta go fix em cause Ocha can't do it," and I was like, "All right. Huh. That's not what I was hoping!" [laughs] TY: Right? ANDREW: You know? TY: Shango has a way of just popping that bubble. He kind of gave me something similar, in my Ita, Shango, he came down talking bout "You do not know how to live, and now you need to learn how to live. Learn how to live in this life, or you'll learn how to live in the other," we hear that refrain. You know? ANDREW: Yeah. TY: And I think I had a similar trajectory, like, I love teaching, you know, cards, crystals, all the airy fairy witchy stuff, because even though I had extensively studied African tradition, I studied traditional forms of witchcraft as well. I was a proper neoPlatonist high ceremonial magic type of witch [laughs] for a ... ANDREW: Yeah. TY: [[00:19:10] astrological magic, like, I came from Bea too, so ain't nobody going to get me to leave my cards behind, and none of that, but ... And I felt like there was space for that. Like there were, you know ... And spiritualism gives you that opportunity, right? To bring in anything you want? But, people would come with their shopping list, well I want this, I want to be crowned tomorrow, I need you to take me to Haiti, and then after that take me to Africa, and I want this and I want that, and usually my attitude is like, that's cute, that's what you want, you know, good for you, you are clear on your desires ... ANDREW: Yeah. TY: Which is ... [laughs] What do you actually need? Now that we've gotten through your laundry list, what's actually getting ready to happen here? ANDREW: Yeah. TY: Cause guess what, I don't move, unless Yamaya tells me this is what has to happen. ANDREW: Oh yeah. For sure. TY: [laughing] ANDREW: That piece of ... I don't know what the right word for it is ... understanding ... that the Orishas that sits on our heads, you know, and live with us, that nothing happens without their say so. Something so largely foreign to most people's concepts, right? You know? TY: Yeah. ANDREW: Like I remember, many years ago, I got this reading, and Aleyo was like, "No tattoos for you this year," and I was like, "huh, all right, fair enough, I'll stop," right? I had a bunch of stuff planned and I stopped. And a lot of people couldn't understand how I could be just like, "okay"? Like what if he never says yes again? And I was like, "Well, that's cool, I'll roll with that." But that's so hard for people to roll with, right? You know and because ... I think in part because we're encouraged to be ego-centered in a way that is hard to wrestle with ... TY: Yes. ANDREW: But also because of all these traumas that we've been talking about, right? TY: Yes. ANDREW: How much harder is it for someone to put that kind of trust in somebody, if they have, you know, whatever kinds of traumatic experiences and abuses from people who should be ... who were supposed to be there facilitating them? Parents, priests, guides, whoever, right? TY: You know, I agree with that, because it's about several things. It's about shifting from a very Western individualist self-absorbed ego-centric way of being and moving through the world, which I'm not even judging, because those are actual tools we need to survive in the West. ANDREW: Sure. TY: [laughs] Okay? A certain amount of selfishness is necessary for your survival in this place. However, it does create a learning gap. Because you kind of have to cross that bridge to understand how everything functions in this particular tradition. And the unique thing about this tradition is that it's not just all this ... I think we also get really idealistic and we think that we have all these proper African values, and we don't. We have diaspora values, because if you rob them [22:09?] of cultural nuances they don't recognize in Africa. They're not doing that. And we have to separate the caricature of Africa that we have, this ideal ... this, you know, ideal, you know, Africa that doesn't exist. What we're dealing with is post-colonial Africa, that has just as much white supremacist misanthropic bullshit as any one of us. ANDREW: Yeah. Well and also, you know, which part of Africa are we talking about, right? You know? Are we talking about ... TY: Thank you! Thank you! ANDREW: Are we talking about, you know, Ifé, are we talking about the Congo, are we talking about wherever, like, you know, I mean ... TY: Right. Right. ANDREW: I know people come in and they're like "well, you know, I was talking to a Sengoma, and that's exactly like what you do," and I'm like, "No, not really," like, in a general way it's animist and whatever, but other than that, no, it's not the same at all, right? TY: Right. And that's a problem. they think of Africa as a monolith, as one like homogenous sort of thing. They don't understand the level of nuance. And this is why I've always battled these faulty notions and assertions of purity in this tradition and who's more pure, who has the right way, who's the closest to the root? And it's like, nobody, because what is properly African is that we've always assimilated, and brought in what works, and transformed and adapted. And if you go to Nigeria right now, what they're doing in Ejife, is not what they're doing in Oyo, is not what they're doing in Abayokuda, is not what they're doing in Oshopo. They're all doing something different! Compound to compound, region to region! Because there's always been sort of that gap to allow for spirit, to allow for adaptability, that's how we learn. ANDREW: Well, and I think that that's the power of lineage, right? You know? TY: Sure. ANDREW: Like, what you're going to do, you can't do anything ... TY: Yeah. ANDREW: But you can do anything that fits within the bounds of your lineage, right? TY: Exactly. ANDREW: And that's the real meaning of, like, oh, in my house we do this, it's like, you know, lots of people use that as a justification for what they don't know or to just do whatever they feel like, or be like, oh, I can't get that, so you know in my house now, now we give turkeys instead of chickens, cause they're easier to get, or whatever, right? And it's not ... that's not valid, right? What's valid is understanding what's going on within your lineage, and then honoring and working with that, because that is something, those are the spirits that we're calling on to work, right? You know, in one way or another. TY: I've always been a bit of a lineage snob. Particularly in this day and age where people feel that they can self-initiate and they can get their head marked via tarot, and they can get initiated online, this, because, the thing about lineage, right, when I ... I try to explain this to new people, it's like if you're a Christian it doesn't mean that you all believe the same thing, you might be a 7th Day Adventist, you might be a Baptist, there are denominations here. And I feel that we've gotten to the point in our traditions where we have denominations, okay? And within each denomination, lineage becomes important because that's going to imply style, technique, and approach. Okay? We may all believe certain things, but how it plays out, how it looks in ritual, our approach to ritual, technique, that's going to be based on lineage. I think Palo is a great example of that. When you tell me the ramen, you tell me the house, now I know what kind of Palo you do. Because that's what lineage dictates. What types of agreements do you have with the forces you have the ability to access and conjure, and what do your ceremonies look like? Because everything outside of ceremony, ritual, and the protocols associated with them, that's what we dictate and what we have a blueprint for. Everything outside of that is between you and your spirit. You got to work that out! And that's why lineage gives you the blueprint, right, for how ritual, what makes you a certain thing, what makes another thing a thing, then outside of that, that's all you, boo! ANDREW: Yeah, for sure, right? ANDREW: It's all about getting to know what your particular Orishas like and want, right, you know? I mean, cause people always want to do big ceremonies, and more often than not, you know, if I cook a little amala ila for Shango, he's gonna eat up and get whatever I want, right? You know? Like, it's easy, once you sit and listen. Once you understand and build that connection. But, you know, but that quest for purity or truth or like, the solution, you know, it's not always bigger and better things, it's learn to work what you have, right? And then apply that and then you can go from there. TY: And insofar as learning to work what you have is concerned, I think that's another challenge, because one of the main critiques I sort of have of our traditions right now is that I don't think people are practicing African tradition or African-inspired tradition. I feel like they're Christians in elekes. Because they kind of bring all their Christianity and dress it up in nice African fabric and put beads on it, but it's still Christianity. ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: And I find that that is especially true with how we understand and approach Orisha. Sometimes our relationship and approach to Orisha is devotional, and sometimes it's not. I'm not always on my knees begging like I'm praying to the Lord, sometimes I'm sending Orisha on a mission, and I think people have forgotten that, and I see that that disconnect comes in mostly since the African American involvement in Orisha tradition. The reason why I say that is because [00:27:56--garbled] coming up with these older Cubans, Puerto Ricans ... I have seen them be like hiding drugs in Ocha, or getting a custom Elegua out cause they want some shit to go down or they busting somebody outta jail, it wasn't this elitist thing, and it wasn't so ... the level of Christianized judgement, and this just pray to Orisha and give agomu, I don't work with Uheria, that's very different, because we have songs, we have liturgy that calls us powerful sorcerers and sorceresses, and how we work with Orisha. I think that we have to reexamine what our relationship is. Is it this Christianized devotion? Or sometimes do you work with Orisha like any other sorcerer in any other tradition? And what are these ideas that we're bringing in that are foreign and counter-productive? Because if you are just purely devotional, right? and you just throw in so that you can appease Orisha and get on your knees, do you really know what that Orisha likes and how it could work for you or how you could get up and make something pop when you need it? Do you really know that? Or do you know how to appease Jesus on Sunday and beg? And does that make you a priest? Or does that make you a slave to some spirit? And you call it Ocha? ANDREW: Mmm. Well. I had the, I think, good fortune, it's one of the best gifts that I think my parents gave me, which was to not be raised with anything. So, religion was nonexistent in my household. Which, you know, I think was tremendously liberating compared to where a lot of people come from when they come into these things, right? And I think that this question of what is, what does it mean to exist with a magical religion, right? TY: Mmmhmm. ANDREW: Is something that is quite different than what a lot of people expect or understand, right? And it's neither as simple, at least in my experience, as "Hey, dude, I was sitting on the couch playing video games all month and I need some like money for rent, hook me up," right? TY: Right. ANDREW: That doesn't necessarily work either, right? I mean, maybe? Maybe the first time, maybe sometimes. Or you know, “bust me out of jail,” or whatever ... TY: Of course, there's spontaneity. Right. ANDREW: But it's also not. TY: Yeah. ANDREW: Not that either, right? You know? And sort of this distinction between the things that we want and need to live in this world and live in this life, right? TY: Uh huh. ANDREW: I mean, they are there to facilitate those things. TY: Right. ANDREW: And -- TY: I think it -- ANDREW: Go ahead. TY: No, no, I'm sorry, go ahead. ANDREW: Well, I was going to say, and, they are there cause they can see how we can free ourselves from the problems we make for ourselves, or the problems other people bring, and sort of move beyond them, or move and minimize them as we go through life, right? Because ... TY: Yes. ANDREW: You know, life is complicated, right? TY: It's the battle of the Osobos and the Iré, right? All these forces of negativity that exist in the world on many levels ... ANDREW: Right. ANDREW: And some of those come from us, too, right? And learning to overcome those ones that are ... Not in a "we're all sinners" kind of way, like we've all got baggage, we've all got tendencies, maybe we're lazy, maybe we're too greedy, maybe we're hateful or whatever, and those things undermine our lives, and we need to ... you know, it's that balance of both, I think, right. TY: Right. ANDREW: Cause literally people come into the shop and "I need you to Santeria somebody," and I'm like, "whatever, “Dude, I don't even know what you mean, but no." Like, forget it? You know? yeah. TY: I see -- I mean, I see your point. I guess what -- not I guess -- one of the things I'm resistant to is elitism in this tradition. ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: Because it has become elitist on a number of levels just because of the price point, the introduction of just the academia, you know, into this? So, there's also an intellectual elitism here ... ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: And with that elitism, there's been sort of this political attempt to Christianize in terms of its values, and what we do, we don't do that, and it's like, um, but we do! Because I remember very distinctly being called for those basement ochas that we had to do in an emergency cause somebody was going to jail, or, you know, [laughs] somebody has some illness, and it was a bunch of poor people in that ocha in a project apartment saving somebody's life. I remember when it wasn't elitist. ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: You know? And there wasn't any shame around doing an obra versus an ebbó. And how I'm distinguishing those terms, when I say an obra, a work, something that you don't throw for, that you go, you put it together, and you tell Orisha, versus ebbó that comes out of a divination and Orisha done told you! ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: I remember that, there being a distinction and watching santeros move in that way. I remember that there wasn't the stigma and the shame around, yo, maybe I do need to come up with my rent cause I'm getting put out of my house and I need to go to Elegua to open a door. ANDREW: Yeah. TY: I remember because there was no stigma around that. ANDREW: Well and, I hope I didn't come across wrong, because I think there should be no shame. Right? We are all where we're at, and we're all in places and life is complex and variable and many things happen, right? TY: Right. ANDREW: And, you know? There are those times when we need to make those things, or to, you know, kick 'em in the pants a little bit and be like, "Elegua, dude, rent's due on the first, it better be in my account before that, my friend, it needs to happen, or we're all in on the street," right? or whatever, and I think there should never be any shame in any of that or in needing healing or, you know. I mean, all of those things, I think that we're all human and we all need those things all the time and we'd be foolish to think that that's not going to be the case, right? But I also do agree that there's a tendency to try and niceify, right? You know? TY: Yep. You say it even more in Nigeria. You see it even more in the Nigerian priests, with this attempt at, you know, Christianizing Ifa because of the onslaught of just attack from Muslim- and Christian-kind in Nigeria. ANDREW: Sure. Right? And you know, and it's ... you see it in a lot of, you know, more fringe places, right, you see it in the LGBT community, right, and all those extra letters too, where, it's like, well, look, we're just like you, we're this way, we're that way, and that's true for some people, and for other people it's not, right? And I think that those kinds of diversity ... it doesn't benefit anybody either to leverage one group down so that we could sort of be up, right? You know in the way that like, historically Palo and Lucumí traditions went through that conflict, right? You know, there's the historical divide, right? TY: Well, still. ANDREW: Well still, but like, you know, there were specific historical events where, you know it was like all of a sudden, well, you know, we'll throw the Palo community under the bus for this ... TY: Yeah. ANDREW: And show how legitimate and good we are, right? TY: And they're still doing it. I was very resistant to making Ocha for a lot of years, because I was palera for a long time before I became an olosha. ANDREW: Yeah. TY: And one of the things that I've [35:39--inaudible]... that I was really resistant about, was what I call Lucumí-, or Yoruba-centric [distortion/inaudible at 00:35:51]. You know, Yorubas tend to posit themselves at the top of this whole priest -- overstep their boundaries, an Orisha priest telling you, you have abatowa crown, get rid of your nganga. How? Why is it you feel that your tradition gives you the right to tell somebody what can and can't happen in a completely separate practice? Okay? And that's your eccentric elitism. That's Lucumí-centric elitism. And we see it because Lucumí is the most expensive initiation, that people feel like once they get crowned they've arrived, honey, they got the big crown ... ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: And it perpetuates this contention. It also perpetuates a lot of misinformation. Like Cholla is not Ochún. She will never be Ochún. Saramanda is not Ogun. Nusera is not Elegua. [laughs] You understand what I'm saying? ANDREW: Yeah. Well and I think it's part of that desire or ignorance that promotes generalization, right? You know? TY: Yes. ANDREW: I mean, it's not 100% true, but I often sort of think, if there's an odu that says you shouldn't do that, then that means there's not a general prohibition against it because it's required to come up, right? And I mean, it's a little too cut and dry maybe, but I think there are so many things where people want to sort of posit a set of rules, like obatala should never drink, you know? TY: Mmmhmm. ANDREW: These people are going to be this way, this spirit's going to be that way, once you're a priest you should never do whatever again, and it's not that way, you know? It doesn't need to be that way. TY: Right. ANDREW: And that is that sort of stereotyping and you know, sort of modeling ideas that are not universal ... TY: Yes. ANDREW: But people want to make them, either because it gives them power, or cause they don't know better, right? TY: Yes. And in some cases, it's just superstitious and unnecessary. Like, I'll give you an example. I went to an Orisha birthday, to go see someone's Orisha, and you know in the process of ocha birthdays, we're sitting, we're gossip, we're talking shit. We get into a conversation about firearms, right? Because I don't go nowhere unarmed, okay? I'm a black woman living in the USA. I'm going to be ... if you see me, you're going to see ... ANDREW: I've seen your Instagram! TY: [laughs] You know, so ... we were talking about firearms, and there was a priest that was much older than me, I feel like she was in her 20s, and she was like, well you know, none of us carry weapons, we've all blunted all of the knives in our house because many of us have ogun [garbled at 00:38:38] in our Ita, and we give that over to Ogun. And I was like Er? What the hell does that have to do with your ability to protect yourself? Number one, did ogunda come in some harsh osogbo that told you to deal with the entire house, and what does any of that have to do with my basic human right to defend myself? ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: And then her response was, you know, well [inaudible--some missing audio? at 00:39:07] Ogun, I'm not going to take on Ogun's job, but I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you, there's nothing he could have ever told me in Ita that would have had me unarmed for the rest of my life, not as a single mother, hell no. There is nothing you could have told ME that would have made me put down my firearms. And there was nothing that I heard her say out of her Ita that made any of that make sense to me. ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: That sounded crazy. But I hear this level of superstitious ignorance that manifests in general taboos for entire houses, all the time. Now suddenly one person's Ita is everybody's Ita. It's crazy! ANDREW: Sure. Well and I see -- I've seen that prohibition with that piece of advice come out in a reading for somebody, and it didn't surprise me, cause that relationship in that house was on the edge of exploding into physical conflict maybe, right? TY: Right. ANDREW: And so, like there are times when that stuff can come out and should come out, but that's where you gotta look at your life and see what's going on, right? Like I -- Somebody came to me for a reading and you know, it was one of those like, hey, the Orishas love you, hugs and kisses, see you later, right? And it was like, okay, when should I get initiated? And I was like, why? TY: Cause you're not about that. Right. ANDREW: “Are you sick? Are you broke? Are you ... like, what's going on?” And they're like, “No.” I'm like, "You're good, you don't need it, don't worry about it." You know? So, I think that that, yeah, it's where you need to be understanding about yourself and your relationship, right? TY: Yes, yes, and move beyond superstition. I think that we have a very sophisticated methodology and system of divination that doesn't give us ... we don't have the burden of having to have superstition. Or even faith, to a certain extent. We do divination, we do ebbó, ebbó works. [laughs] We trust that it works because we've seen in work. You know? We have divination and confirmation. ANDREW: Sure. TY: Which is one of the reasons why I like this tradition. Cause I ain't got to be believing in no pie in the sky! You do divination, you do the ebbó! [laughs] ANDREW: As Crowley puts it, right? TY: Right, right! ANDREW: As Crowley puts it in one of his books, success is your proof, right? That's it. Certainty, not faith, right? TY: Ase, and I've never done well with faith. Which is why Palo and Vodou make me happy, you do something, something happens. ANDREW: Right. TY: [laughs] You know? So. It's all of that, all of it. ANDREW: So, I have a question for you about the intimacy counseling and the work that you're doing with people, right? So, is that a energetic thing? Is that a spiritual practice? Is that like -- Where do the intersection ... Cause I'm always curious with people who practice a bunch of different things and then have outside people come and engage that, right? TY: Yeah. ANDREW: Are you engaging people within their own practices? Are they coming to you for practices? How does that look and work for you? TY: So, usually, it depends. People who have no relation to this practice but just need sex and intimacy coaching usually look like regular old clients. They book an appointment, we have some talk therapy, and then I do a healing. That healing may be energetic, like in tantric projection work or energy work that they need to clear out some trauma. It may be a past life regression or some spiritual cord that I have to cut cause of what they're dealing with. It may be physical, because as a somatic sex educator, we also guide people through certain body practices, so for example, if I have a person who is ashamed of their body as a result of trauma, has never masturbated. I might do guided coached masturbation, or I might have a couple who want to reinvigorate their sex life and they want to learn new techniques, so I'll guide them through it. So that's where the body-based therapy might come in. Someone in the tradition, it will probably start with some type of spiritual reading and see what's happening with you spiritually and then how that plays out in your life in the form of coaching. And the sex tends to be, especially in the tradition, talk therapy only. It comes out in my spiritual counseling, so like for example, I might do a divination, and let's say I see a lot of odí falling, and I know that there might be some addiction stuff, or some sexual trauma, some abuse, some other things, that that letter would point to. Well, I'll do the ebbó, I'll get that out of the way, but then after that I'm going to book a spiritual counseling session, and let's talk about what made that manifest on that, and what really needs to happen with you energetically and spiritually and hold space for that. And sometimes that is talk therapy around their sexual trauma, because of course, that letter fell and that oftentimes points to rape or molestation or all kinds of stuff, right? ANDREW: Sure. TY: In addition to that, as a tantrica, when I lead workshops with people, mostly single women or couples, they're looking to bring the sacred into their bedroom in a certain way. In terms of my tantra training, I came through, I'm an initiated tantric, I was initiated in the Shri Vidya lineage, a Debi Kudarum, very goddess-centered, and to me, it ain't nothing but some Indian Palo honey, I don't know, cause you know, they with them goddesses, they put out them yantras, honey and you get to chant and then that thing MOVES, okay, but in addition to Shri Vidya tantra, I studied Ipsaun tantra, Shakti pat, I received several activations, and I am now studying grand trine active shamanistic tantra. So, I will teach them how to do tantric projection, like no hands, no touch, energy orgasms, healing the body and the trauma energetically, and even just tantric lovemaking, tantric interaction. And I've found that people in this tradition, even though the two don't overlap, they are very interested in it, because again, we don't have a space to have these conversations. We don't have a way of talking about how we can relate in a spiritual manner [laughs] that, you know. ANDREW: Well, we're all human beings, right? We want to ultimately, I think, one of our desires, for almost everybody, is to want to show up on every level for the sexy times, right, you know? Cause once you understand or experience other levels of awareness ... TY: Right. ANDREW: You know? You want to bring that everywhere, right? But as you say, it's not really a ... there's not really a mechanism for that. TY: Right, right. I mean but the thing is I feel that we do, we do have our concept of sacred relationship because for, in my opinion, when the awo, and his apedibi, Soday, and marry, that's our sacred relationship, when the Ialosha and the Babalosha marry. They ... that's our sacred relationship, because now you have the bringing together of these two powerful entities that can birth something. Now what's going to change it is the context, the intention, the consciousness, and what you're going to put forth in it. But the fact that it exists ... I think is ... I think if it didn't exist there would be no need for the Babala to have an Apedibi, to have that feminine counterpart to the masculine, you know? To bring about that balance and uplift his Ifa. [laughs] You know what I'm saying? So, we definitely have it, but do we understand what we have? Do we not articulate it? And then what does it mean? So, you know, doubling back to your initial question, your average person looks like talk therapy and then whatever body-based somatic therapy they may need according to their issue. The average person in this tradition, I kind of keep separate, and it stays on like a counseling, I have to counsel them one on one, because a), having the conversation itself is damn near taboo, as conservative as we are, and b) you can't bring that into ritual, you've got to do ritual first and then have a separate conversation about that. ANDREW: For sure. Yeah. Mmmhmm. I've got to say I dig how you're navigating all that. TY: [laughs] Yeah. ANDREW: So, I've got one more question for you before we wrap up. TY: Uh huh. ANDREW: So, how do you sustain all these traditions you're doing? I get a little tired just hearing about it! [laughs] TY: On a schedule. [laughs] ANDREW: Yeah! TY: Well, I work for myself, so I wake up, usually I have sunrise meditation and yoga, and then I tend to my ancestors and whatever loa might be that day, so Tuesdays I'm on my Petro, and you know, whatever, Thursdays I'm on my rada, and then I go ahead and reap my Orisha, my ifa, and I keep it moving. At night, I normally deal with my prendas ... ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: And I try to keep my workings to them around what's going on in the sky, and I mostly work that outside and at night. And you know, loa gives you a schedule, cause loa has to be served every day, and you know, it's certain people that you serve on certain days. Orisha, all they need daily is to breathe, pour libations and keep it moving, you know? I might throw to my Orisha, you know, my head Orisha once a month, Elegba, maybe once a week, appease him, you know, my little Sundays or Mondays, I keep it moving! You know, they, it's just ... it's such a part of my lifestyle, it's I wake up, yoga, meditation, greet Luwan, have your day, come back, say hello to the Palo people, go to bed. You got ebbó to do, do your work. ANDREW: Yeah. TY: [laughs] ANDREW: I love it. I mean I think it's one of those things, right? So many people ... I hear many people who kind of say that they want to live that kind of life, right? You know, that that's what they're looking for. TY: You gotta be built for that life. ANDREW: Yeah. [laughs] ANDREW: Yeah, cause you know, I mean, it's one of those things, right? I mean, you know, I mostly just, I mean I work with my, you know, my spirit guides and my Orisha, right? But like, it takes up a chunk of time and energy and it takes a real consistency of focus that I think that is challenging, you know? I know that I certainly when I was starting out struggled with it. And that sort of scheduling it, and just being like these are the ways that things happen, that's it, right? TY: Yeah. That's it! ANDREW: The obligation needs to be sustained, right? TY: Yeah, and I think because I didn't do it back to back. Like I had years in between each so I kind of was able to get acclimated, develop a routine, before something else came in, you know? And they're separate, I keep them separate, like they each have their own room, their own space, all of that. But they function in similar ways. ANDREW: Mmmhmm. TY: You know what I'm saying? They function in similar ways. ANDREW: Yeah. TY: So, every day if I get up and I greet my ancestors, that's gonna be a new tradition. And today, you know, I might have to blow some rum [inaudible at 00:50:04] You know what I mean? So, I mean it's not as far in or as complicated as some people make it sound. ANDREW: [inaudible--asking to repeat] TY: I said it's not as far in or complicated as some people make it sound. Even if you were just the palero, right? You're not sitting with your nganga for hours every day! You're not doing that! ANDREW: No. TY: Or most, you get up, you greet, you light 'em up and you keep it moving, unless you got something to do! ANDREW: Yeah. TY: That doesn't change, cause you got other things. ANDREW: That's true. And they've got other places to be too, right? TY: Right! ANDREW: Like they're not sitting 24 hours a day waiting for everyone. “Oh my god, I'm not bringing the tv down here, you know, we're not watching our shows together, I'm getting sad about this,” that doesn't happen, yeah. TY: They should be out there fixing the problems in my life, not sitting here! [laughs] ANDREW: Mmmhmm. For sure. That's awesome. Well, thank you so much for making time today, Ty. TY: Yep. ANDREW: People want to come and find you online, where's the best place to come and hang with you? TY: http://www.iamtyshaw.com. ANDREW: Beautiful! Go check it out! TY: Yes. ANDREW: All right. Well, thank you. TY: Yes, thank you! We'll talk soon. All right, bye.

Dr. Will Savage from Harvard University joins Dr. Chaffin to discuss Allergic Transfusion Reactions (ATRs). Allergic reactions have become pretty widely known as "nuisance reactions" to blood bankers and clinical staff, and it's easy to think that we understand them. Dr. Savage and colleagues have shown in numerous recent publications, however, that we don't yet fully "get it" with ATRs. He opens our eyes in this last BBGuy Essentials Episode of 2016. Thanks for listening this year (over 25,000 downloads!).

The World and Africa” by W.E.B Du Bois The Eurocentric anthropological grouping titled “African Traditional Religion” is a misnomer, but some acknowlege this while still drawing arguments from it. It assumes a unitary portrait of the religions of African people, as well as denying that "world religions" can form "traditions" in African lives; especially when Islam and Christianity in Africa pre-date many modern ATRs. Just as Europe launched forward to a new civilization of beauty, a new freedom of thought and religious belief, a new demand by labor to choose their work and enjoy its fruit, uncurbed greed rose to seize and monopolize the uncounted treasure of the fruit of labor. Labor was degraded, humanity was despised; the theory of “race” arose. There came a new doctrine of universal labor: mankind was of two sorts—the superior and the inferior; the inferior toiled for the superior were the real men, the inferior half men of less.  Among the white lords of creation there were “lower class” resembling the inferior darker folk. In line with this conviction, the Christian Church, and protestant, at first damned the heathen blacks with the “curse of canaan,”then held out hope of freedom through “conversion,” and finally acquiesced in a permanent statues of human slavery. Luxury and plenty for the few and poverty for the many was looked upon as inevitable in the course of nature. In addition to this, it went without saying that the white people of Europe had a right to live upon the labor and poverty of the colored people of the world.

Today we Drafted our first ever ATRS Fantasy league. We used all available position for a fantasy team including defensive players and put almost everything that you can score points for on. with only four teams, this could be interesting.

Background: Future shortages in platelet supply are expected in Germanydue to demographic changes. A rising cancer incidence will lead to anincreasing demand for platelet concentrates (PCs) while the number ofpotential donors will decrease. Pathogen inactivation (PI) aims toinactivate various infectious agents including emerging pathogens toextend the shelf-life of PCs and reduce the frequency of acutetransfusion reactions (ATRs). In this context, the clinical and economicimpact of PI on platelet transfusion was evaluated. Material andMethods: Model calculations were conducted for 2 scenarios consideringdifferent production settings. Frequencies of ATRs were based onliterature analyses, platelet and ATR costs on cost analyses. Results:The estimated average costs for ATRs of grade 1 and 2, irrespective oforigin, and grade 3 (allergic) were (sic) 104, (sic) 238, and (sic)1,200, respectively. Approximately 400 PC-related ATRs per 10(5)transfusions can be avoided, with estimated savings amounting to (sic)77,000. The total cost increase was calculated to approximately (sic)30-50 per PI-treated PC. Conclusion: PI potentially saves plasma,prolongs shelf-life, decreases donor deferral, and reduces ATRs. Modelcalculations considering clinical and safety benefits of PI show arational cost increase. The impact of PI should be further evaluatedfrom a societal perspective regarding future blood supply and infectiousdisease globalization.

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