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In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born continues the Set It On Fire: The Art of Innovation series by diving into Chapter 7: Failure: Innovation's Training Ground. Joined by Moriah Hidden, Natalie explores why failure is not the opposite of innovation, but a necessary part of the process.Together, they unpack the difference between failures and mistakes, the role of psychological safety in innovative cultures, how leaders can create environments where experimentation thrives, and why learning faster is often more valuable than being perfect. This conversation offers practical insights for leaders looking to build resilient teams that embrace risk, learn quickly, and continue moving innovation forward.[00:00 – 04:12] Why Failure Is Essential to InnovationWhy innovation naturally involves risk and uncertaintyHow failure provides valuable data, insights, and learningShifting the focus from perfection to learning velocityWhy organizations must stop treating failure as a personal flaw[04:13 – 08:59] Psychological Safety & Learning from SetbacksThe connection between psychological safety and innovationHow fear-based cultures prevent honest conversationsSigns your team may be afraid to speak up or take initiativeWhy leaders must create environments where mistakes can be discussed openly[09:00 – 15:08] Failures vs. Mistakes: Understanding the DifferenceDefining the difference between a failure and a mistakeWhy leaders should respond differently to eachThe role of accountability, coaching, and learningHow SOPs and clear expectations reduce preventable mistakes[15:09 – 17:21] Fail Fast, Fail Cheap, Fail OftenWhat “fail fast, fail cheap, fail often” really meansCreating guardrails that encourage experimentationUsing scorecards, decision frameworks, and spending limitsAvoiding costly innovation projects that lack validation[17:22 – 20:51] Staying Connected to CustomersWhy organizations build products customers don't actually wantThe importance of validating ideas early and oftenListening for customer signals and feedbackRemoving internal bias during the innovation process[20:52 – 26:20] Building Resilient Teams That Keep InnovatingWhy leaders should model vulnerability and share their own failuresCelebrating learning—not just successful outcomesConducting lessons-learned reviews and after-action discussionsCreating a culture that rewards thoughtful risk-taking and growthKey Quotes“Failure is only a waste if we don't learn from it.” – Natalie Born“If a leader treats a failure as a mistake, innovation will disappear in the organization.” – Natalie Born“Failure is not the opposite of innovation; it's part of the process that makes innovation possible.” – Natalie BornResources & LinksInnovation Meets Leadership Website: iml.howSet It On Fire Frameworks & Resources: setitonfire.coNatalie Born LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalieborn/If this episode encouraged you, share it with a leader, entrepreneur, or innovator who wants to build a culture where learning, experimentation, and resilience drive long-term success.Be sure to subscribe to Innovation Meets Leadership for more conversations on leadership, innovation, culture, and growth.
✅ Join our Thrive Tribe! https://thrivetoday.com/ Learn more about our Thrive Today Membership: https://thrivetoday.com/pages/membership In this episode of the Thrive Today Podcast, Natalie Born welcomes leadership expert and bestselling author Stephanie Chung for a conversation on leading people who are different from you. Stephanie shares lessons from her journey in business and aviation, offering practical insights on building trust, fostering psychological safety, embracing diverse perspectives, and developing stronger teams. Whether you lead an organization or a small team, this episode will equip you with tools to create a culture where people feel valued, empowered, and inspired to succeed. [00:00 – 04:39] From Baggage Claim to the Boardroom The leader who saw potential in her before she saw it herself Why great leaders recognize and develop talent [04:39 – 08:44] Leadership Is About Developing People The difference between management and leadership Why leaders must intentionally see and nurture potential Introducing the ALLY Leadership philosophy [08:44 – 14:02] Bias, Diversity & Better Decision Making Why diverse teams outperform homogeneous teams Moving beyond familiarity in hiring and leadership Different perspectives create stronger business outcomes [14:03 – 18:12] Psychological Safety & Drawing Out Every Voice Creating environments where people feel safe to contribute How leaders can intentionally invite diverse perspectives The value of different thinking and processing styles [18:13 – 24:33] Empowering Teams Through Ownership Letting teams help create the solution Why leaders should resist the urge to immediately critique ideas Facilitating ownership rather than controlling outcomes [24:34 – 29:45] The EARN Framework for Leading Diverse Teams Stephanie's EARN framework: E — Establish an environment of psychological safety A — Assure alignment R — Rally the troops N — Navigate the journey [29:46 – End] What Today's Leaders Need Most The leadership skills organizations are promoting Why technical expertise alone is no longer enough Developing the people skills required to lead effectively Final encouragement for leaders navigating complex teams Quotes: “Leadership is not just about getting the work done. Leadership is about developing people.” — Stephanie Chung “The people who are not like you are often the people who will give you your competitive advantage.” — Stephanie Chung “What companies are promoting are leaders who can build trust, create alignment, and establish psychologically safe environments.” — Stephanie Chung About the Guest: Stephanie Chung Stephanie Chung is the #1 international bestselling author of Ally Leadership: How to Lead People Who Are Not Like You and a respected executive, keynote speaker, and leadership strategist. With more than 30 years of experience, she has helped organizations drive growth, strengthen culture, and develop high-performing teams. Stephanie made history as the first African American president of a private aviation company and has held executive leadership positions with organizations including Wheels Up, JetSuite, American Airlines, Flexjet, and Bombardier Aerospace. Her leadership insights have been featured by major media outlets including ABC, CNBC, CBS, Forbes, Essence, Inc., and Black Enterprise. Guest Links: Website: StephanieChung.com Book: Ally Leadership: How to Lead People Who Are Not Like You Thrive Today: https://thrivetoday.com/ Loved this episode of the Thrive Today Podcast? Subscribe and leave a 5-star review to help more women grow in leadership, faith, and purpose. Join the Thrive community for leadership resources, coaching, and conversations designed to help you thrive in every season.
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born continues the Set It On Fire: The Art of Innovation series by diving into Chapter 6: The Product Development Framework. Joined by Moriah Hidden, Natalie explores practical ways organizations can intentionally surface innovation, move ideas from concept to execution, and create systems that help innovation thrive long-term.This conversation unpacks business plan competitions, hackathons, customer incubation sessions, funding innovation, overcoming organizational barriers, and creating cultures where experimentation and execution become part of everyday work.[00:00 – 03:10] Introduction to The Product Development Framework & Creating Space for InnovationIntroduction to the Product Development FrameworkLeaders must intentionally create opportunities for innovationDifferent organizations require different innovation approaches[03:11 – 07:40] Business Plan Competitions & Learning Through FailureEncouraging employees to bring forward new ideasLessons learned through personal experiences and failureThe value of psychological safety during innovation efforts[07:41 – 11:05] Funding Innovation EffectivelyWhy funding strategy matters as much as the idea itselfAligning financial resources with long-term innovation goalsHow leaders evaluate which ideas receive investment[11:06 – 14:30] Customer Incubation & Innovation ProgramsGathering real-world feedback before launching solutionsBuilding products that solve meaningful problemsBenefits of collaborative innovation environments[14:31 – 19:22] Why Innovation Efforts FailLack of ownership, accountability, and psychological safetyFailure to move from testing to executionLeadership misalignment and competing priorities[19:23 – 22:45] Building a Sustainable Innovation CultureAligning teams around problems worth solvingCreating repeatable systems for testing and learning and establishing accountabilityRemoving fear of failure from organizational culture[22:46 – 23:20] Final Thoughts & ClosingKey takeaways from the Product Development FrameworkResources for learning more about Set It On FireFinal encouragement for leaders pursuing innovationKey Quotes“The urgent work on our plate often suffocates our ability to think about the future.” – Natalie Born“Funding innovation is just as important as generating the ideas themselves.” – Natalie Born“People have good ideas all day long. The challenge is actually executing them.” – Natalie BornResources & LinksInnovation Meets Leadership Website: https://innovationmeetsleadership.com/Set It On Fire Frameworks & Resources: https://setitonfire.co/Natalie Born LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalieborn/If this episode encouraged you, share it with a leader, entrepreneur, or innovator looking to build stronger systems for bringing ideas to life.Be sure to subscribe to Innovation Meets Leadership for more conversations on leadership, innovation, culture, and growth.
✅ Join our Thrive Tribe! https://thrivetoday.com/ Learn more about our Thrive Today Membership: https://thrivetoday.com/pages/membership In this episode of Thrive Today, host Natalie Born sits down with Dr. Robert Watkins, CEO of Conquer Worldwide, for a conversation centered around building wealth, leadership, relationships, and the people we allow close to us. Together, they discuss how proximity, emotional decisions, and unhealthy financial habits can either help or hinder long-term success. This episode explores the difficult but necessary conversations surrounding wealth building, boundaries, stewardship, leadership, and the importance of protecting your vision from unhealthy distractions. Dr. Watkins shares practical wisdom on navigating relationships, leadership pressures, financial discipline, and creating opportunities for future generations. [00:00 – 00:00:45] Podcast Introduction & Welcome Natalie welcomes listeners to the Thrive Today podcast Introduction to Dr. Robert Watkins and today's topic on wealth building Overview of leadership, stewardship, and financial growth conversation [00:00:45 – 00:02:08] Relationships, Leadership & Wealth Building Family and friends can sometimes become obstacles to financial growth The people closest to leaders can become their biggest blessings or distractions Leadership failures often stem from unhealthy proximity and influence [00:02:09 – 00:04:00] Protecting Vision & Creating Boundaries Importance of discernment when building wealth Why leaders must evaluate who has access to them Financial growth often requires difficult relationship boundaries [00:04:01 – 00:06:15] Leadership Responsibility & Stewardship Stewardship over influence, finances, and opportunities The responsibility leaders carry for future generations How leadership impacts families, businesses, and communities [00:06:16 – 00:09:20] Financial Discipline & Healthy Habits Avoiding debt and unnecessary financial entanglements Learning to make disciplined decisions instead of emotional ones Why consistency matters in long-term wealth building [00:09:21 – 00:12:10] Environment, Mindset & Personal Growth Environment shapes mindset and financial outcomes The importance of personal development and wisdom Protecting mental and emotional peace while pursuing success [00:12:11 – 00:15:20] Generational Wealth & Legacy Building wealth that impacts future generations Leadership as a tool for service and impact The importance of thinking beyond immediate gain [00:15:21 – 00:17:49] Access, Opportunity & Capital Discussion around access to financial resources and opportunities Encouragement for entrepreneurs and business leaders Overcoming fear surrounding growth and investment [00:17:50 – 00:18:40] Final Encouragement & Closing Thoughts Encouragement for listeners pursuing financial growth Resources available through Conquer Worldwide Natalie shares Thrive Today resources and coaching opportunities Key Quotes: “The people closest to you can become your biggest blessing or your biggest danger.” – Dr. Robert Watkins “Most leaders fall because of the wrong people around them.” – Dr. Robert Watkins “You have to protect your vision with wisdom and boundaries.” – Dr. Robert Watkins Resources & Links: Thrive Today: https://thrivetoday.com Conquer Worldwide: https://conquerworldwide.com/ If this episode encouraged you, share it with a friend, entrepreneur, or leader working toward building wealth with wisdom and intentionality. Be sure to subscribe to Thrive Today for more conversations centered around leadership, faith, growth, and purpose.
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born continues the Set It on Fire: The Art of Innovation series by diving into Chapter 5: Pace, Process & Empowerment. Joined again by Moriah Hidden, Natalie explores how organizations often struggle to innovate because teams are either moving too slowly, operating in chaos, or lacking the empowerment needed to make decisions confidently.This conversation unpacks how leaders can create healthier systems, protect creativity, and build environments where innovation can thrive sustainably.[00:00 – 02:04] Introduction to Chapter 5Introduction to pace, process, and empowermentWhy innovation often feels difficult inside organizationsThe importance of healthy systems behind innovation[02:05 – 05:30] Understanding PaceConstant urgency eventually creates burnoutInnovation suffers when people operate at full capacity all the timeLeaders need to create margin for creativity and strategic thinking[05:31 – 08:45] Burnout vs. Sustainable InnovationInnovation rarely happens in nonstop chaosHealthy organizations allow people room to think“Burn on, not burn out” leadership mindset[08:46 – 12:10] The Role of ProcessProcesses should create clarity, not bureaucracyTeams need consistency to move ideas forward effectivelyLeaders should regularly evaluate whether processes are helping or hurting innovation[12:11 – 15:40] Empowerment & Decision MakingInnovation slows down when every decision requires approvalEmpowered employees move faster and with more ownershipTrust and accountability work together[15:41 – 19:20] Team Dynamics & CollaborationBurnout impacts communication and collaborationHealthy cultures produce healthier innovationPsychological safety affects creativity[19:21 – 23:30] Leadership MaturityGrowth requires honest self-assessmentThe maturity index helps organizations evaluate progressInnovation requires intentional leadership development[23:31 – 28:34] Creating Healthy Systems & Cultures That InnovateStrong systems support people while creating clear communication and sustainable growthInnovation grows in environments built on trust, adaptability, and experimentationTeams perform best when they have room to learn, adjust, and improve together[28:35 – 31:23] Final Thoughts & ClosingInnovation requires healthy pace, strong systems, and empowered peopleSustainable innovation is built intentionallyLeaders must create space for creativity and growthKey Quotes“When people are operating at 120% capacity, there's no room left for creativity.” – Natalie Born“Innovation doesn't thrive in constant chaos.” – Natalie Born“We need leaders that burn on, not burn out.” – Natalie Born“Empowered people move innovation forward faster.” – Natalie BornResources & LinksInnovation Meets Leadership: https://innovationmeetsleadership.com/Set It On Fire Frameworks & Resources: https://setitonfire.co/Natalie Born LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalieborn/
In this episode of Thrive Today, host Natalie Born sits down with communication strategist, media expert, author, and speaker Roshanda Pratt for a powerful conversation on anchored leadership, faith, stewardship, and purpose. Together, they explore what it means to lead people well, stay grounded during pressure, and create impact in every environment God has entrusted to you. This episode dives into how leadership rooted in faith can influence workplaces, businesses, families, and communities. Roshanda shares practical encouragement on stewardship, purpose, navigating pressure, and how challenges often shape leaders into who they are called to become. [00:00 – 01:14] Introduction & Meet Roshanda Pratt - Natalie introduces Roshanda Pratt and discussion around Roshanda's article on “anchored leadership” - The visual and meaning behind being anchored as a leader, leadership influence across business, family, and community [01:15 – 02:49] Leadership Rooted in Faith & Stewardship - “Everything rises and falls on leadership” discussion - Biblical leadership principles and leading people well - Leading with intentionality both online and offline [02:50 – 05:30] Pressure vs. Purpose - The tension between pressure and purpose - Pressure as part of the process instead of a sign to quit - Biblical examples of leaders facing adversity before stepping into purpose [05:31 – 08:45] Stewardship in Leadership - Leadership as stewardship rather than control - Being intentional with influence and opportunities - The responsibility of leading with integrity and care [08:46 – 12:20] Communication & Influence - The power of communication in leadership - Helping people feel seen, valued, and encouraged - Building trust through consistency and authenticity [12:21 – 15:50] Growth Through Challenges - Seasons of difficulty often shape stronger leaders - Staying anchored through uncertainty and setbacks - Learning resilience through pressure and responsibility [15:51 – 19:25] Final Encouragement & Leadership Application - Faith-centered leadership inside business and personal life - Encouragement for leaders navigating difficult seasons - Final thoughts on impact, purpose, and stewardship Key Quotes “Leadership is about making people and places better because you were there.” – Roshanda Pratt “You can't lead others well if you're not anchored yourself.” – Roshanda Pratt “Every environment you enter is an opportunity to steward influence well.” – Roshanda Pratt “Growth often happens in the uncomfortable seasons we try to avoid.” – Roshanda Pratt Resources & Links Website: https://roshandapratt.com/ Thrive Today: https://thrivetoday.com/ If this episode encouraged you, share it with a leader, entrepreneur, or friend navigating pressure while pursuing purpose. Be sure to subscribe to Thrive Today for more conversations centered around faith, leadership, growth, and impact.
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born continues the Set It on Fire: The Art of Innovation series by diving into the topic of Socializing Innovation. Joined again by Moriah Hidden as guest-host, Natalie explores why innovation is no longer about brilliant individuals—it's about building brilliant teams.This conversation unpacks how leaders can break down silos, involve cross-functional voices early, and create environments where ideas can actually grow. Natalie shares practical insights on collaboration, communication, psychological safety, and the importance of involving others throughout the innovation process instead of operating in isolation.[00:00 – 03:00] Introduction to Socializing InnovationContinuing the Set It on Fire seriesWhy socializing innovation is a “superpower” for leaders and entrepreneursThe difference between having great ideas and successfully implementing themInnovation requires more than creativity—it requires collaboration[03:01 – 06:00] Breaking Down SilosWhy organizations struggle when teams work in isolationThe importance of cross-functional collaboration early in the process“Innovation is no longer about brilliant individuals, it's about brilliant teams.”Why some leaders avoid socializing ideas due to unhealthy environments or fear of resistance[06:01 – 09:00] Creating Environments Where Ideas Can ThriveThe impact culture has on innovation successPsychological safety and encouraging honest feedbackWhy leaders cannot surprise teams with innovation and expect buy-inHow collaboration builds ownership across departments[09:01 – 12:00] Perfectionism vs. ProgressWhy waiting for perfection slows innovation downThe importance of iteration and feedback loopsLearning to test, adjust, and improve ideas over timeHow innovation grows through refinement instead of isolation[12:01 – 15:00] Communication & Buy-InThe importance of communicating vision clearly and consistentlyHelping people understand the “why” behind innovationWhy teams support what they help createCreating momentum by involving others throughout the process[15:01 – 18:00] Collaboration Across TeamsPractical examples of cross-functional collaborationWhy diverse perspectives strengthen ideasAvoiding tunnel vision when building products, services, or strategiesThe role of leadership in unifying teams around a shared goal[18:01 – 21:00] Feedback as a GiftWhy customer and team feedback matterLearning from how people actually use products and servicesListening instead of defending ideasUsing feedback to improve innovation outcomes[21:01 – 22:26] Leading Innovation ForwardBuilding cultures that support experimentation and growthEncouraging curiosity, adaptability, and collaborationWhy leaders must create space for innovation conversationsInnovation succeeds when people feel included in the processKey Quotes“Innovation is no longer about brilliant individuals, it's about brilliant teams.” – Natalie Born“People support what they help create.” – Natalie Born“Feedback is a gift if you're willing to listen.” – Natalie Born“The best ideas become stronger when other people are invited into the process.” – Natalie BornResources & LinksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliebornWebsite: https://innovationmeetsleadership.comFrameworks & Resources: https://setitonfire.coIf this episode challenged your perspective on leadership and innovation, share it with someone building a team, leading a company, or trying to launch a new idea.Don't forget to explore Set It on Fire: The Art of Innovation for more insights on creating innovative cultures, building aligned teams, and turning ideas into action.
✅ Join our Thrive Tribe! https://thrivetoday.com/ Learn more about our Thrive Today Membership: https://thrivetoday.com/pages/membership In this episode of Thrive Today, host Natalie Born sits down with leadership expert Dr. Sam Chand for a powerful conversation on leading with clarity, faith, and vision in seasons of change. Together, they explore how strong leadership requires a clear voice, intentional direction, and a foundation rooted in faith, hope, and love. This episode highlights how leaders can navigate uncertainty with confidence, stay grounded in their identity, and create environments where both they and their teams can thrive. Dr. Chand shares practical insight and wisdom on developing clarity, strengthening leadership influence, and leading others well through transition. [00:00 – 02:10] Introduction & Leadership Foundations Introduction to Dr. Sam Chand and the episode focus Leadership is most tested in seasons of change Clarity is a foundational requirement for effective leadership [02:11 – 05:20] The Power of a Clear Voice & Vision Leaders must develop and communicate a clear voice Vision provides direction and alignment for teams Lack of clarity leads to confusion and stalled progress [05:21 – 09:00] Leading Through Seasons of Change Change is constant—leaders must remain steady Confidence comes from consistency, not circumstances Strong leadership creates stability during uncertainty [09:01 – 13:00] Faith, Hope, and Love as Leadership Anchors Leadership should be rooted in internal values Faith, hope, and love guide decisions and perspective Leading from values creates lasting impact beyond strategy [13:01 – 16:30] Identity & Leadership Growth Leadership begins with understanding who you are Identity shapes influence, confidence, and direction Growth happens when leaders become secure in themselves [16:31 – 19:30] Encouraging and Strengthening Others Encouragement is a key leadership responsibility Strong leaders build people, not just systems Empowered teams multiply overall impact [19:31 – 22:00] Clarity That Builds Confidence Clear communication strengthens team confidence People thrive when expectations and direction are defined Clarity removes hesitation and builds momentum [22:01 – 25:39] Practical Leadership Application & Final Thoughts Apply clarity and vision in everyday leadership decisions Lead intentionally rather than reactively Stay grounded while continuing to grow and adapt Key Quotes · “Leaders need a clear voice and a clear vision.” – Dr. Sam Chand · “In seasons of change, faith, hope, and love become your foundation.” – Dr. Sam Chand · “Clarity doesn't just guide you—it strengthens the people around you.” – Dr. Sam Chand Resources & Links · How to Hold your Pastor's Ladder: https://shorturl.at/jmDgY · Website:https://www.samchand.com/ If this episode encouraged you, share it with a leader or friend who may be navigating a season of change. Be sure to subscribe to Thrive Today for more conversations that equip you to lead with clarity, confidence, and purpose.
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born continues the Set It on Fire: The Art of Innovation series by diving into Chapter 3: Culture Killers for Innovation. Joined again by Moriah Hidden as guest-host, Natalie explores the internal cultural dynamics that either fuel or shut down innovation inside organizations.This conversation unpacks the importance of alignment, team health, and empathy — highlighting how misalignment, unhealthy behaviors, and lack of customer understanding can quietly destroy innovation efforts. Natalie shares practical frameworks and real-world examples to help leaders build stronger teams, foster collaboration, and create environments where innovation can actually thrive.[00:00 – 02:30] Continuing the Series: Culture & Innovation- Introduction to Chapter 3: Culture Killers for Innovation- Focus shifts to internal team dynamics and alignment- The “rule of seven” and repetition in communication[02:31 – 05:40] The Power of Alignment- Focusing on 3–4 core priorities instead of 20- The role of incentives and milestones in team motivation- Quarterly checkpoints and celebration culture[05:41 – 8:00] What Defines a Healthy Team- Signs of healthy vs. unhealthy team dynamics- The danger of surface-level agreement (“smiling but resisting”)- Why unaddressed behaviors become culture killers[8:01 – 9:45] Self-Awareness & Leadership Growth- Recognizing when you might be the “lid” on growth- Skill vs. will: what's really holding teams back- Knowing when to grow vs. when to step aside[9:46 – 12:07] Teamwork & Shared Vision- The Gladiator example: moving as one- The power of a shared goal or “common enemy”- Why teams fail when they turn against each other internally[12:07 – 14:00] Empathy & Customer-Centered Innovation- Why organizations often build for themselves, not customers- Introduction to the empathy map framework- How understanding customer needs improves products and services[14:01 – 16:37] Listening to the Customer- Practical ways to gather customer insights- Why direct interaction is more valuable than assumptions[16:37 – 20:51] From Empathy Maps to Personas- Turning insights into actionable customer personas- Keeping the customer at the center of innovation- Using frameworks to guide product and service developmentKey Quotes“The moment you're tired of repeating yourself is usually the moment your team is finally starting to understand.” – Natalie Born“If you can't get along, you're not ready to grow—and if you can't grow, you can't innovate.” – Natalie Born“We build better when we actually understand the people we're building for.” – Natalie BornResources & LinksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliebornWebsite: https://innovationmeetsleadership.comFrameworks & Resources: https://setitonfire.coIf this episode challenged your perspective, share it with a leader or team working to build a healthier, more innovative culture. Don't forget to explore Set It on Fire: The Art of Innovation — your guide to building aligned teams and turning ideas into action.
In this episode of Thrive Today, Natalie Born sits down with Dr. Robert Watkins to explore the mindset shift from employee to entrepreneur. This conversation dives into the realities of transition—faithfulness where you are, building a strong reputation, solving meaningful problems, and surrounding yourself with the right people. Dr. Watkins shares practical and spiritual insight on how to navigate uncertainty, avoid common pitfalls, and step into entrepreneurship with clarity, discipline, and trust. From developing a “life board of directors” to understanding the value of solving the right problems, this episode is a powerful guide for anyone looking to build something of their own. [00:00 – 02:30] Introduction & Episode Overview · Natalie introduces Dr. Robert Watkins and his background · Overview of transitioning from employee to entrepreneur · Setting the stage for mindset and leadership discussion [02:31 – 06:30] From Employee to Entrepreneur · Why many people feel unfulfilled in traditional work environments · The importance of faithfulness in your current role · Learning skills now that will prepare you for future ownership [06:31 – 10:30] The Power of Reputation · Why your name and character are your greatest assets · How reputation impacts opportunities and trust · The importance of guarding your character in business and life [10:31 – 14:30] Solving the Right Problems · Income is tied to the level of problems you solve · Difference between common vs. complex problems · Why specialization increases value and impact [14:31 – 18:30] Building Your “Board of Directors” · The importance of surrounding yourself with wise counsel · Accountability as a key to long-term success · Choosing people who have solved problems you haven't yet [18:31 – 22:30] Navigating the Transition · The fear and uncertainty of leaving a steady paycheck · Trusting God in financial and business decisions · Avoiding the “free fall” mindset during change [22:31 – 25:30] Avoiding Bottlenecks in Business · How founders can unintentionally limit growth · The importance of delegation and building a team · Why human capital is just as important as financial capital [25:31 – 27:30] Vision, Clarity & Taking Action · Why clarity attracts the right people and opportunities · Writing the vision and staying aligned with it · Taking bold steps even when the path isn't fully clear Quotes “Be faithful where you are, and it will prepare you for where you're going.” – Dr. Robert Watkins “Your reputation is your greatest currency—guard it with your life.” – Dr. Robert Watkins “Income follows the problems you're willing to solve.” – Dr. Robert Watkins “You can't build something great alone—surround yourself with the right people.” – Dr. Robert Watkins About the Guest Dr. Robert J. Watkins is a financial strategist, entrepreneur, and CEO of Conquer Worldwide, a consulting firm focused on helping individuals and businesses build wealth and secure funding. He is a bestselling author, international speaker, and investor known for equipping leaders with the tools to grow financially and transition into entrepreneurship. His work centers on empowering people to create sustainable income, solve high-value problems, and build long-term financial legacy. Guest Links Thrive Today https://thrivetoday.com Subscribe to Thrive Today Digital Journal https://thrivetoday.com Dr. Robert's website conquerworldwide.com Loved this episode of the Thrive Today Podcast? Subscribe and leave a 5-STAR review to help more women discover leadership rooted in faith and wisdom. Join the Thrive Tribe for coaching calls, leadership resources, and a community of women who lead and believe.
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born continues the Set It on Fire: The Art of Innovation series by diving into Chapter 2: Get Out of My Sandbox. Joined again by Moriah Hidden as the co-host, Natalie unpacks one of the biggest hidden barriers to innovation inside organization, ownership silos.While many organizations believe innovation belongs to a specific department or select group of “creative thinkers,” Natalie challenges this mindset by introducing the concept of the “sandbox.” When innovation is confined to a single team, it limits collaboration, creates resistance, and prevents organizations from reaching their full potential.This conversation explores how leaders can break down silos, invite cross-functional collaboration, and shift organizations from isolated idea ownership to shared responsibility. For organizations ready to move beyond resistance and into action, this episode offers a practical look at how to create a culture where everyone sees themselves as an innovator.[00:00 – 02:30] Continuing the Set It on Fire Series· Natalie introduces Chapter 2 and the concept behind “Get Out of My Sandbox”· Moriah returns as interviewer to guide the conversation· The focus shifts from foundation (Chapter 1) to organizational barriers[02:31 – 06:30] What Is the “Sandbox”?· How organizations unintentionally assign innovation to specific people or departments· Examples: innovation living with leadership, tech teams, or “creative” groups· Why this creates exclusivity around idea generation[06:31 – 10:30] The Problem with Silos· How “ownership” of ideas leads to resistance from other teams· Why employees hesitate to contribute outside their role or department· The connection between silos and stalled innovation[10:31 – 14:30] Moving from Resistance to Action· Why Chapter 2 is the “resistance chapter” in the innovation journey· How leaders can identify where resistance is showing up internally· Shifting mindset from protection to participation[14:31 – 18:30] Innovation as a Team Sport· Why innovation should not be independent—but interdependent· The importance of cross-functional collaboration· How diverse perspectives strengthen ideas and execution[18:31 – 22:30] Creating Shared Ownership· Encouraging every team member to see themselves as an innovator· Breaking the belief that only certain roles are “idea people”· How leaders can invite contribution across all levels[22:31 – 25:30] Leadership's Role in Breaking Silos· Modeling openness to ideas from any department· Removing barriers that limit collaboration· Building systems and culture that support shared innovation[25:31 – 27:30] First Steps for Organizations· Identify where innovation is currently “owned”· Create opportunities for cross-team idea sharing· Reinforce that innovation is everyone's responsibilityQuotes“Innovation doesn't belong to a department—it belongs to the organization.” – Natalie Born“When we protect our sandbox, we limit what's possible.” – Natalie Born“The best ideas don't come from one team—they come from collaboration.” – Natalie BornConnect with Natalie Born:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliebornWebsite: https://innovationmeetsleadership.comBook: Set It on Fire: The Art of InnovationBook & Resources: https://setitonfire.coIf this conversation challenged your perspective, share it with a leader or team that's ready to break down silos and rethink how innovation really happens.
In this powerful episode of the Thrive Today Podcast, co-host Colleen Rouse sits down with Natalie Born to explore what it really means to become innovation strong. In a world where innovation is often reserved for a select few, Natalie challenges that belief head-on. She shares a foundational truth: innovation is not a talent given to a few, it is a gift placed inside all of us. The real differentiator is whether leaders know how to cultivate it within their teams. Drawing from her experience in product development, leadership, and culture transformation, Natalie breaks down the four critical elements that drive innovation inside organizations: healthy teams, learning through failure, iteration over perfection, and alignment around a shared mission. This conversation is both practical and deeply rooted in purpose, helping leaders move from stalled ideas to thriving, creative environments where people and organizations can grow. Innovation Is Already Inside You Why innovation is not reserved for entrepreneurs or inventors The belief that others have a “playbook” you missed Reframing innovation as something God has already placed within you The “Missing Playbook” Mindset Natalie's story of feeling behind in AP Biology How comparison creates insecurity in leadership and creativity Why innovation can be learned, not inherited Innovation as Stewardship Seeing creativity as a reflection of God's nature Why innovation is less about talent and more about responsibility How leaders unlock creativity in others Area 1: Healthy Teams Drive Innovation Why innovation is a team sport, not an individual effort The three essentials: psychological safety, collaboration, and candor How trust creates environments where ideas can thrive Fail Fast, Fail Cheap, Fail Often Shifting your relationship with failure Why failure is data, not defeat How experimentation accelerates learning and innovation Learning Faster Than Everyone Else Why speed of learning is the real competitive advantage How great teams normalize testing and iteration What leaders must do to create safe environments for experimentation Why perfectionism slows progress The power of launching before you feel ready How iteration drives faster, better outcomes Why Speed Matters in Innovation The cost of waiting for “perfect” ideas How fast-moving organizations stay competitive Why action creates clarity Becoming Innovation Strong How leaders can start building innovative cultures today The importance of trusting the creativity inside your team Creating environments where ideas are welcomed and developed Quotes “Innovation is already inside of you. It was given to you by a creative, heavenly Father.” – Natalie Born “Healthy teams create environments where ideas can be shared freely and explored safely.” – Natalie Born “Fail fast, fail cheap, fail often — because every failure teaches you something valuable.” – Natalie Born “Perfection slows innovation. Iteration accelerates it.” – Natalie Born About the Guest: Natalie Born Natalie Born is a strategy consultant, keynote speaker, and founder of Innovation Meets Leadership. She helps organizations unlock growth by building cultures rooted in innovation, alignment, and execution. Through her work in product development, consulting, and leadership strategy, Natalie equips leaders to move from ideas to impact by creating environments where teams can thrive. She is also a contributor to Thrive Magazine, where she shares insights to help women lead with clarity, confidence, and purpose. Guest Links
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, Natalie Born launches a special series exploring her book "Set It on Fire: The Art of Innovation", starting with the foundational elements every innovative organization must build. Joined by Moriah as interviewer, Natalie explains why many companies struggle with innovation, not because they lack ideas, but because they lack clarity.Drawing from Chapter 1, Natalie outlines how vision, mission, and values create the structure that enables innovation to thrive. Without a clear vision to guide decisions, an evolving mission, and values that shape behavior, teams often operate in silos or hesitate to contribute ideas.The conversation highlights how leaders can empower teams by sharing the big picture, fostering psychological safety, and creating cultures where people feel confident offering ideas and learning from mistakes. For leaders who want consistent innovation, this episode provides a practical roadmap to strengthen the foundation first.[00:00 – 02:20] Launching the SeriesNatalie introduces the series and its goal of turning innovation into a practical field guide. Moriah joins to interview Natalie on the ideas behind the book.[02:21 – 06:00] The Foundation of InnovationWhy vision, mission, and values must come before innovation. Unclear foundations lead to hesitation and poor decision-making.[06:01 – 09:20] The Power of VisionA strong vision expands what employees believe is possible. When leaders withhold the big picture, teams act like renters instead of owners.[09:21 – 12:05] Mission That EvolvesVision is future-focused, mission reflects current work. Organizations should revisit their mission regularly to support growth and innovation.[12:06 – 15:40] Values as GuardrailsValues shape culture, hiring, and behavior. Natalie emphasizes hiring and firing by values and using them to guide decisions without limiting innovation.[15:41 – 19:23] Psychological SafetyInnovation requires environments where people feel safe sharing ideas. Fear and blame can cost organizations significant opportunities.[19:24 – 23:00] Building the Right CultureTeams hold back ideas when they sense risk. Leaders must model openness and encourage healthy discussion.[23:01 – 25:10] Advice to LeadersDon't start with ideas. Start with the environment. Most organizations already have the talent—they need the conditions for ideas to surface.[25:11 – 26:30] First StepsAssess whether employees understand the vision, mission, and values. Create simple tools, like a one-page guide, to reinforce clarity.Quotes“Innovation doesn't happen because leadership declares it, it happens when the environment allows ideas to surface.”“When leaders keep the big picture to themselves, people show up as renters instead of owners.”“Don't start with ideas. Start with the environment that allows innovation to happen.”Guest LinksNatalie BornLinkedIn: [https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalieborn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalieborn)Website: [https://innovationmeetsleadership.com](https://innovationmeetsleadership.com)Book: "Set It on Fire: The Art of Innovation"Resources: [https://setitonfire.co](https://setitonfire.co)Call to ActionIf this resonated, leave a review and share with a leader ready to rethink innovation. Explore "Set It on Fire" at setitonfire.co and connect at innovationmeetsleadership.com.Don't just get out of the box, break it and set it on fire.
✅ Join our Thrive Tribe! https://thrivetoday.com/ Learn more about our Thrive Today Membership: https://thrivetoday.com/pages/membership In this powerful episode of the Thrive Today Podcast, host Natalie Born sits down with founder Colleen Rouse to explore what it takes to build leadership that lasts—not just produces results. In a culture that rewards hustle and constant output, many women are driven by pressure rather than purpose. Colleen shares how unchecked drive can lead to burnout and why lasting leadership requires a different approach. Together, they unpack the difference between being driven and being led, the identity issues behind overworking, and how a “hero mentality” can quietly drain leaders. Through practical frameworks, biblical wisdom, and leadership insights, Colleen offers a new way forward—rooted in grace, stewardship, and alignment with God. If you've felt exhausted trying to keep up or prove yourself, this conversation will help you reset your pace, refocus your priorities, and build a leadership life that is both impactful and sustainable. [00:00 – 02:39] Why Leadership Needs Longevity The difference between building results vs. building endurance How early career hustle can lead to long-term burnout rather think with the “end in mind” [02:40 – 04:10] Driven vs. Led Leadership The shift from high achiever to overachiever Why constant drive is not meant to be a lifestyle How your pace impacts the people you lead [04:11 – 06:12] The Root of Overworking: Identity & Proving The “servant mentality” vs. relational leadership How performance-driven habits are often rooted in needing validation [06:13 – 08:23] Breaking Free from the Need to Prove Yourself How past experiences shape present drivenness Why identity—not achievement—anchors healthy leadership What changes when you no longer feel the need to prove your worth [08:24 – 10:11] Success vs. Significance Why promotions and titles can become identity traps Letting go of comparison and scarcity thinking The difference between chasing success and pursuing significance [10:12 – 12:11] The “Hero Mentality” and Hidden Pressure Why leaders take on responsibilities that aren't theirs How social media amplifies the pressure to stand out The danger of feeling obligated to carry everything [12:12 – 14:54] Leading Smarter, Not Harder “Be most responsive to those you are most responsible for” Applying the 80/20 principle to leadership How restructuring your time creates better outcomes and team synergy [14:55 – 16:54] From Grind to Grace What it means to operate in a “rhythm of grace” Why the loudest problem isn't always the priority How quiet time with God leads to clarity and better decisions [16:55 – 19:14] Starting Your Day with Clarity The power of asking: “What should I focus on today?” Why stillness is productive—not passive How alignment reduces chaos and increases effectiveness [19:15 – 21:22] Moving from Depletion to Productivity Why transformation starts with a mindset shift Asking better questions: “What should I stop doing?” Inviting trusted voices to help you evaluate your workload [21:23 – 23:41] Permission to Let Go The importance of “stop, start, continue” reflection Why leaders must give themselves permission to say no Recognizing when you've become your own source of pressure [23:42 – End] Final Thoughts on Sustainable Leadership Why rhythm and grace are essential for long-term leadership A preview of Colleen's upcoming book on leadership rhythms Invitation to go deeper through Thrive Today resources Guest Links
In this insightful episode of the Thrive Today Podcast, host Natalie Born sits down with Thrive Today founder Colleen Rouse to unpack why discernment is one of the most critical skills for leaders today. [00:00 – 01:14] Introducing Discernment in Leadership Natalie introduces the episode topic: “Swimming with the Sharks.” Why discernment is essential when making leadership decisions. How leaders constantly invest their time, talent, and attention. [01:15 – 03:00] Understanding Decision Fatigue The reality of decision overload for leaders. How leaders unintentionally create environments where everyone relies on them. Why growth seasons often bring heavier decision pressure. [03:01 – 04:01] What Discernment Really Means Biblical reference to the sons of Issachar who understood the times and seasons. Discernment defined as the ability to separate, sift, and distinguish. Learning to quiet the noise and seek direction from God. [04:02 – 05:11] Good Opportunities vs. God Assignments The difference between attractive opportunities and divine direction. Recognizing pressure versus peace in decision-making. Why many leaders struggle to say no. [05:12 – 07:26] The Cost of Saying Yes Women often feel obligated to take on more responsibilities. The importance of counting the cost before committing. A personal story of saying no to a business opportunity that would have derailed a calling. [07:27 – 09:02] Timing and the Myth of “Having It All” Why not everything belongs on your plate in every season. Recognizing when something is right—but not right now. Rejecting the scarcity mindset around opportunities. [09:03 – 11:12] Discernment vs. Distrust Why discernment should not turn into suspicion of everyone. The “shark man” analogy: observing before entering the water. Leading with hope rather than constant defensiveness. [11:13 – 14:26] Handling Difficult Relationships A story about navigating disrespect from a staff member. Seeking to understand the root of behavior rather than reacting. How discernment can lead to reconciliation instead of conflict. [14:27 – 16:08] Studying Before Reacting Why leaders should investigate situations before escalating conflict. The importance of patience and timing in difficult conversations. Learning to read situations before responding. [16:09 – 17:46] Awareness Does Not Equal Assignment Women often notice problems quickly—but that doesn't mean they must fix them. The danger of stepping into the “hero” role unnecessarily. Discernment helps determine responsibility versus observation. [17:47 – 19:35] Practicing Discernment Daily Listening to both people and the Holy Spirit during conversations. Learning to respond with care rather than immediate solutions. Walking step by step as direction becomes clear. [19:36 – 21:11] Removing Bias in Decision-Making Personal biases can cloud discernment. A story about stepping back from a family decision to avoid bias. Learning to trust God's voice instead of second-guessing. [21:12 – 23:20] Building a Circle of Wise Counsel Why leaders need trusted voices who can challenge them. The power of a small group of advisors. The question every leader should ask: “Who in your life can tell you no?” [23:21 – 25:31] Growing in Discernment Recognizing personal vulnerabilities in decision-making. Building systems of accountability around those weaknesses. Encouragement to pray for greater discernment in leadership. [25:32 – End] Living with Spiritual Clarity Leaders can live with peace rather than constant pressure. God desires to guide His people with wisdom and clarity. A final encouragement to grow in discernment this year.
In this insightful and empowering episode of the Thrive Today Podcast, host Colleen Rouse switches seats with Thrive's own strategist and innovation expert, Natalie Born, to unpack what it really takes to lead through massive change without leaving people behind. From stepping out of comfort zones into exponential leadership to navigating emotional resistance, communication breakdowns, and uncertainty, Natalie shares the real-world lessons she learned while leading digital and cultural transformation across large organizations. With honesty, strategy, and compassion, this conversation explores why change is emotional, how influence often lives at the bottom—not the top—and why leaders must invite both supporters and skeptics into the process. Whether you're building vision, managing resistance, or learning how to communicate when you feel like a broken record, this episode equips you with practical frameworks and courageous leadership principles to guide people from confusion to clarity and from fear to forward movement. [00:00 – 02:30] Stepping Out of the Comfort Zone Natalie's “rock and a hard place” leadership moment. Leaving safety to take on an undefined, high-stakes role. What it means to move from traditional to exponential leadership. [02:31 – 04:30] Exponential Leaders & the Power of Mentorship Why growth requires learning how to fall and get back up. The role of mentors in stretching leadership capacity. How support systems accelerate confidence and influence. [04:31 – 08:40] The Emotional Reality of Change Why change is more emotional than operational. Understanding the Kübler-Ross Change Curve in leadership. How shock, denial, anger, and fear show up in organizations. [08:41 – 10:30] Don't Write People Off Too Early Early adopters vs. late adopters. Why processing styles affect buy-in. Creating freedom for questions and honest dialogue. [10:31 – 13:00] Influence Lives at the Bottom, Not the Top Why real change often moves bottom-up. Natalie's story of partnering with a skeptic named “Cassandra.” Turning resistance into ownership and collaboration. [13:01 – 15:30] Inviting Dissent to Strengthen Vision Why leaders shouldn't only gather “yes” people. How dissent creates better execution. Learning from the boots-on-the-ground perspective. [15:31 – 18:30] Communicating Change Without Burning Out Why people need to hear things 7–10 times. Creating transparency through “working open.” Letting people go on the change journey with you. [18:31 – 20:15] Will vs. Skill in Change Management Using the ADKAR framework to assess readiness. When resistance is about ability, not attitude. Supporting people with the tools they need to succeed. [20:16 – 22:50] Casting Vision in Uncertainty Building a one-page vision for clarity. Showing people the bridge from chaos to consistency. Helping teams see where they are and where they're going. [22:51 – End] Leading with Compassion, Clarity & Courage Why honesty builds trust during transformation. Balancing realism with faith for the future. Encouragement for women leading through change. Quotes: “Change is emotional, but we almost never talk about the emotional side of change in the business world.” – Natalie Born “Vision builds a bridge between confusion and clarity.” – Natalie Born “Exponential leaders don't just push you forward, they teach you how to stand on the ledge.” – Natalie Born Guest Links:
✅ Join our Thrive Tribe! https://thrivetoday.com/ Learn more about our Thrive Today Membership: https://thrivetoday.com/pages/membership In this rich and wisdom-packed episode of the Thrive Today Podcast, host Natalie Born welcomes back one of our most loved guests, Dr. Dave Martin, to unpack why wisdom isn't just helpful, it's foundational. Drawing from Scripture, leadership experience, and decades of mentoring leaders across faith and business, Dr. Dave reframes wisdom as the master key that unlocks right timing, healthy relationships, sustainable success, and spiritual maturity. Together, Natalie and Dr. Dave explore the difference between information and formation, why humility keeps us teachable, and how wisdom is often built slowly through experience, mentorship, and obedience—not shortcuts. From navigating AI and modern decision-making to building guardrails through Scripture, prayer, and counsel, this conversation invites listeners to stop rushing outcomes and start cultivating the kind of wisdom that shapes both who we are and where we're going. [00:00 – 01:30] Why Wisdom Matters More Than Ever Introducing Dr. Dave Martin and his heart for wisdom Why Scripture places such high value on wisdom and understanding How mistakes often awaken our hunger for wisdom [01:31 – 03:26] The Game Show Illustration: Why Wisdom Wins Everything A powerful metaphor for choosing wisdom over outcomes How wisdom produces better relationships, influence, and success Solomon's story and why wisdom multiplies what we're chasing [03:27 – 05:31] Wisdom Is Gained, Not Given Why Solomon, and even Jesus, had to grow in wisdom How learning changes seasons and shapes the future The daily discipline of staying teachable [05:32 – 07:44] AI, Information, and the Loss of Relational Wisdom How younger generations are outsourcing counsel to technology The danger of replacing relationships with information Why wisdom was designed to flow through people, not isolation [07:45 – 09:48] Formation vs. Information Why wisdom is about transformation, not just knowledge How experience, humility, and community shape character Staying teachable as a spiritual discipline [09:49 – 11:37] Timing, Faith, and Trusting the Process Why God is never late, but also never rushed The danger of platform before preparation How growth seasons are often mistaken for delays [11:38 – 13:51] Growth Requires Humility Why mentors are shortcuts to wisdom Learning from others' mistakes instead of repeating our own The Mount Everest lesson: growth happens in us, not circumstances [13:52 – 16:21] Humility as the Gateway to Wisdom Why pride closes our ears but humility opens our spirit Becoming a “learn-it-all” instead of a know-it-all Why grace flows where humility lives [16:22 – 18:23] Building Guardrails Through Daily Wisdom Making wisdom your default—not a backup plan Reading Proverbs daily as a lifelong practice Applying biblical principles to real-world leadership [18:24 – 21:31] Practical Wisdom in Business and Life Creating order as a spiritual principle Making decisions through prayer, not pressure Seeking counsel before major decisions [21:32 – 23:46] Supernatural Wisdom at Work Real stories of God-given ideas producing extraordinary outcomes Inviting heaven into business decisions Operating with long-term purpose, not short-term pressure [23:47 – 25:52] Teaching the Next Generation Wisdom Helping children learn to listen for God's voice Why Scripture speaks differently in different seasons Moving from advice to surrendered obedience [25:53 – End] Listening, Obedience, and Maturity Ignoring wisdom—and the cost of doing so Why maturity begins with listening Wisdom as faith applied in everyday life
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born sits down with Braydan Young, B2B tech entrepreneur, co-founder of Sendoso, and founder of Slash Experts, to unpack what innovation really looks like inside early-stage startups.Braydan shares hard-earned lessons from building and scaling multiple companies—covering everything from replacing traditional sales demos with peer-to-peer trust, to navigating rapid product cycles, delegation, feedback culture, and decision-making under uncertainty. [00:00 – 01:22] Welcome & Braydan's Founder JourneyIntroducing Braydan Young and his background in B2B tech startupsFrom Sendoso to Slash Experts: why early-stage building still excites him[01:23 – 03:08] The Idea Behind Slash ExpertsHow customer “back-channeling” inspired a new go-to-market modelTurning real customers into trusted sales advocates[03:09 – 04:31] The Educated Buyer & Faster Sales CyclesWhy buyers now complete most of the sales journey before a demoHow trust accelerates deals and reduces friction[04:32 – 06:09] Scaling Principles: Delegation & FocusWhy founders can't (and shouldn't) do everything themselvesTrusting your team without micromanaging[06:10 – 07:48] Tools, Chaos, and Personal ProductivityClickUp, handwritten to-do lists, and managing multiple workflowsWhy speed matters more than perfection[07:49 – 09:55] Staying Innovative as a Small, Scrappy TeamWhy small teams outperform large ones at innovationRadical transparency: sharing board decks, finances, and goalsTreating employees like owners from day one[09:56 – 12:22] Rapid Product Development & Weekly ReleasesHow product cycles have shifted from quarterly to weekly releasesThe impact on sales enablement, marketing, and customer experienceWhy staying aligned internally is harder—but more critical—than ever[12:23 – 14:47] Curiosity, AI, and Learning at SpeedUsing AI tools to synthesize information fasterBuilding curiosity into hiring and company cultureWhy innovation requires awareness beyond your immediate market[14:48 – 17:26] Innovation, Risk, and Hypothesis-Driven LeadershipTreating decisions as hypotheses—not fixed truthsAsking the uncomfortable question: “Where are we failing?”Why early customers are your greatest innovation partners[17:27 – 20:52] Feedback, Failure, and Healthy CulturesWhy most organizations avoid real feedbackTurning failure into actionable learningCreating a culture of candor without ego defensiveness[20:53 – 22:45] Balancing Innovation with Day-to-Day ExecutionSprinting between customer work, prospecting, and internal systemsStructuring focus as teams grow toward 50+ peopleKnowing when your operating model must change[22:46 – 24:51] Growth Inflection Points & Company ValuesLessons from hypergrowth at SendosoWhy values must be defined before rapid hiringHelping people self-select into (or out of) your culture[24:52 – 26:34] Final Takeaways & Where to ConnectLeadership lessons from multiple startup cyclesBalancing ambition, family, and sustainable performanceWhere to find Braydan and learn more about Slash Experts“Product-market fit isn't a milestone—it's a question you should be asking on every call.” – Braydan Young“Your first customers stick with you because they believe in the idea, even when you're still breaking things.” – Braydan Young“If you're not asking where you're failing, you're probably missing your biggest opportunity.” – Braydan YoungLinkedIn: Braydan Young – linkedin.com/in/braydanyoung/Website: slashexperts.com
In this milestone 100th episode of the Thrive Today Podcast, host Natalie Born welcomes Thrive founder Colleen Rouse for a powerful conversation on one of the most defining—and often misunderstood—elements of leadership: culture. Together, they unpack how culture is formed, why it determines whether people stay or leave, and how leaders can intentionally create environments marked by value, belonging, vision, and honor. Drawing from decades of leadership experience, Colleen reveals why resilience begins with humility, how identity shapes leadership presence, and why vision must move from the wall to the heart. From cultivating a culture of honor to retaining top talent and creating stability in uncertain times, this episode offers both timeless wisdom and practical tools for leaders who want their impact to outlive their title. [00:00 – 03:30] Celebrating 100 Episodes & Why Culture Matters Reflecting on 100 conversations of coaching, challenging, and championing leaders Why culture is something you feel before you can define it The global impact of Thrive's mission and message [03:31 – 07:30] Leadership, Resilience, and Humility Why high-tension leadership environments drain people Replacing uncertainty with clarity and confidence How humility becomes the foundation of healthy culture [07:31 – 11:30] Identity, Purpose, and Leading from a Place of Security Why leaders must know who they are and why they're at the table The difference between leading to give vs. leading to get “I have nothing to prove; I have everything to give.” [11:31 – 15:30] Retaining Talent Through Value and Belonging The two main reasons people leave organizations (according to McKinsey) Why compensation alone doesn't create loyalty How culture directly impacts retention and reputation [15:31 – 21:00] Culture of Honor: What It Is—and What It Isn't Why leaders are carriers, but not the only carriers, of culture The danger of honoring up but not peer-to-peer or down How dishonor creates toxic undercurrents that drive leaders away [21:01 – 26:30] Honor as a Leadership Lifestyle Honoring people because you are a person of honor Why honoring others requires humility How sowing honor changes environments and outcomes [26:31 – 32:30] Vision: From the Wall to the Heart Why vision must be felt—not just stated How vision ignites internal motivation, not just external compliance Helping people see themselves and their value in the vision [32:31 – 38:00] Vision, Mission, and Values as Cultural Anchors How values define acceptable behavior and accountability Hiring and releasing based on values, not just performance Why shared vision reduces the need for micromanagement [38:01 – 43:30] Stability in Uncertain Times Treating every team member like a leader Investing in people beyond their job description How development, belonging, and belief create long-term commitment [43:31 – End] The Future of Thrive & Invitation to Community Why leaders are craving community over crowds The heart behind Thrive coaching calls and membership An invitation to help shape what's next through feedback and connection Quotes “Culture is created by what you promote, what you permit, and what you ignore.” – Colleen Rouse “I don't honor positionally - I honor because I'm a person of honor.” – Colleen Rouse “Vision doesn't light a fire under people; it lights a fire within them.” – Colleen Rouse About Colleen Rouse Colleen Rouse is the founder of Thrive Today and a respected leadership voice with decades of experience developing leaders, organizations, and cultures rooted in purpose, honor, and vision. Known for her wisdom, humility, and practical insight, Colleen equips leaders to build environments where people feel valued, connected, and empowered to grow. Her passion lies in helping leaders create legacies that outlast their roles and positively impact generations to come.
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born sits down with author, keynote speaker, and former executive Scott Millson to explore what it truly means to operate at the Frequency of Excellence. Drawing from decades of leadership experience—from the U.S. Navy to global consulting—Scott shares how excellence isn't accidental, but something leaders must intentionally tune into every day.Together, Natalie and Scott unpack how curiosity, mentorship, presence, and self-awareness shape high-performing leaders and teams. From recognizing when organizations start to drift, to understanding how leaders act as emotional force multipliers, this conversation offers practical insights for leaders who want to elevate standards, strengthen culture, and build influence that lasts beyond titles and roles.If you're ready to stop operating on autopilot and start leading with clarity, curiosity, and purpose, this episode will help you tune into the signal that drives real excellence.[00:00 – 01:10] Welcome & Introducing Scott MillsonScott's background as an executive, author, and leadership coach.Introducing Frequency of Excellence.Why leadership today requires deeper intentionality.[01:11 – 05:58] Why Scott Wrote Frequency of ExcellenceGratitude, mentorship, and life's “second curve.”Turning 30 years of lessons into a book.Sharing wisdom instead of keeping it locked away.[05:59 – 12:30] What It Means to Tune Into ExcellenceExcellence as a “frequency” leaders must tune into.The radio metaphor for mindset and awareness.Learning to speak with purpose and intention.[12:31 – 14:06] Leaders as Force MultipliersWhy team behavior mirrors leadership behavior.“Calm is contagious” in high-pressure environments.How leaders amplify culture—good or bad.[14:07 – 17:34] Mentorship, Especially for Women LeadersThe impact of female mentors on Scott's career.Why mentorship should be organic, not forced.The mentorship gap and how to close it.[17:35 – 20:31] Choosing People Over PositionsWhy leaders should choose a leader, not just a job.Surrounding yourself with people who elevate standards.Addition through subtraction in relationships.[20:32 – 23:25] Raising Your Leadership StandardWho you surround yourself with shapes your future.Reflection as a leadership habit.Aligning with people who operate at excellence.[23:26 – 25:15] Curiosity as a Leadership SuperpowerWhy curiosity is underused in leadership.Being truly present with others.Making curiosity your leadership advantage.[25:16 – 27:48] Better Questions, Better LeadersWhy “What do you do?” is the wrong question.Asking what excites and motivates people.Listening instead of waiting to talk.Quotes – from Scott“Excellence surrounds us, but we have to be tuned into the right frequency to pick it up.” – Scott Millson“As leaders, we are force multipliers. Our behavior gets amplified through our teams.” – Scott Millson“Curiosity is the most underutilized superpower leaders have.” – Scott MillsonGuest Links for Scott MillsonLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-millson/Website: https://scottmillson.com/Book: Frequency of Excellence (Available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and major retailers)If this conversation resonated with you, leave a review and share this episode with a leader who's ready to raise standards, lead with curiosity, and tune into the Frequency of Excellence.
In this powerful and deeply compassionate episode of the Thrive Today Podcast, host Natalie Born sits down with trauma-trained therapist and faith-based speaker Ciara Freeman to explore what healing truly looks like when faith and psychology work together. Ciara unpacks how unresolved trauma shapes our behaviors, relationships, and spiritual lives—and why avoiding pain often keeps us bound rather than free. Through biblical wisdom, clinical insight, and personal experience, this conversation reframes healing as a courageous, intentional choice. From emotional regulation and nervous system awareness to surrender, discipleship, and renewed identity in Christ, this episode invites listeners to stop numbing, start noticing, and choose the hard road that leads to freedom, wholeness, and lasting transformation. [00:00 – 03:00] Why Healing Is a Choice - What Ciara means by “choosing your hard.” - Why staying stuck can feel easier than healing. - How avoidance quietly reinforces bondage. [03:01 – 06:30] Trauma, the Nervous System, and Faith - How trauma lives in the body—not just the mind. - Understanding fight, flight, freeze, and fawn responses. - Why spiritual practices alone don't always heal trauma. [06:31 – 10:00] When Faith Is Used to Bypass Pain - The difference between faith and emotional suppression. - Why “just pray about it” can sometimes delay healing. - How God works through both Scripture and science. [10:01 – 13:30] Renewing the Mind Requires Safety - Why regulation must come before transformation. - How safety creates space for truth to land. - What renewal looks like beyond positive thinking. [13:31 – 17:00] Identity, Attachment, and Belonging - How early attachment impacts adult relationships. - Why trauma distorts our view of God and ourselves. - Returning to identity as sons and daughters—not survivors. [17:01 – 20:30] Discomfort as a Pathway to Freedom - Why healing often feels harder before it feels lighter. - The cost of numbing versus the cost of obedience. - Choosing growth even when emotions resist. [20:31 – 24:00] Integrating Healing into Daily Life - Practical tools for emotional awareness and regulation. - Creating rhythms that support nervous system health. - Partnering with God in the healing process. [24:01 – End] Hope, Freedom, and the Courage to Begin - Why freedom is possible for everyone. - Trusting God with the process—not just the outcome. - An invitation to take the next faithful step. Quotes ; “Freedom doesn't come from avoiding pain—it comes from facing it with God.” – Ciara Freeman “Healing isn't about fixing yourself; it's about allowing truth and safety to meet.” – Ciara Freeman “You can love God deeply and still need help healing your nervous system.” – Ciara Freeman About the Guest: Ciara Freeman Ciara Freeman is a trauma-trained therapist and faith-based speaker passionate about bridging the gap between psychology and Christianity. With over five years in private practice, she helps individuals experience emotional healing and spiritual restoration through a Biblical lens. She is the author of Choose Your Hard: The Road That Leads from Bondage to Freedom, where she invites readers into honest, courageous healing that leads to lasting freedom. When she's not counseling or leading worship, Ciara enjoys spending time near the water with her pup, Diego. Guest Links
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born sits down with Clifton Dickens, a seasoned information security leader with over 30 years of experience spanning cybersecurity, IT audit, governance, and organizational leadership. This conversation goes beyond technology to explore how leadership mindset, diversity of thought, and healthy conflict directly impact innovation, decision-making, and long-term organizational resilience.Clifton challenges leaders to rethink how teams are built, how processes are designed, and why discomfort is often a signal—not a threat. From recognizing fragile leadership structures to reframing governance and security as strategic advantages, this episode offers practical wisdom for leaders who want stronger teams, smarter systems, and outcomes that actually work for everyone they serve.[00:00 – 03:30] Introducing Clifton Dickens & the Evolution of LeadershipClifton's 30+ years in information security and IT leadership.Why leadership today must account for changing workforce expectations.Passion, flexibility, and purpose as drivers of modern work.[03:31 – 07:00] Vision, Creativity, and Thinking Beyond the BoxWhy innovation starts with the ability to imagine what doesn't exist yet.The importance of childlike curiosity and asking “why.”How overconfidence and “knowing it all” can stall innovation.[07:01 – 10:30] Identifying Fragile Leadership and Team StructuresEarly warning signs of weak culture and vulnerable leadership systems.Why groupthink is one of the biggest risks inside organizations.The role of leaders in inviting honest input—not silent agreement.[10:31 – 14:30] The Power of Healthy ConflictWhy the best solutions come from differences of opinion.Reframing conflict as constructive friction rather than negativity.How avoiding conflict leads to products and systems that fail in the real world.[14:31 – 17:30] Governance, Compliance, and Security as Strategic AdvantagesWhy leaders often react emotionally to words like governance and compliance.How security and controls accelerate performance when framed correctly.Protecting critical data as both risk management and competitive advantage.[17:31 – 21:30] Process, Accountability, and Organizational ControlWhy leaders must understand where effort, labor, and energy are going.How documented processes create clarity and accountability.Clifton's approach to periodically re-engineering team processes.[21:31 – 24:30] Diversity of Thought Drives Better OutcomesWhy homogeneous teams create solutions for only a small percentage of users.The danger of designing for comfort instead of effectiveness.How inclusive teams create products and systems that work for everyone.[24:31 – 28:00] Final Leadership TakeawaysWhy leaders must look at the organization from the top down.Understanding contribution, control, and direction.Where to connect with Clifton and continue the conversation.Quotes“If everyone thinks the same way, that's a sign something is wrong.” – Clifton Dickens“The best solutions usually come out of some sort of conflict.” – Clifton Dickens“Innovation starts with asking ‘what if, even when the answer makes you uncomfortable.” – Clifton DickensConnect with Clifton DickensLinkedIn: Clifton Dickens https://www.linkedin.com/in/cliftondickens/If this conversation resonated with you, leave a review and share this episode with a leader who's ready to build stronger teams, embrace diverse perspectives, and rethink how systems actually work.
In this deeply grounding episode of Thrive Today Podcast, host Natalie Born sits down with Thrive Today founder and Victory Church pastor Colleen Rouse to unpack one of the most misunderstood and most resisted topics in leadership: rest. Together, they explore why rest often carries guilt for high achievers, how striving quietly erodes trust and creativity, and why God's design for work has always been rooted in rhythm, boundaries, and grace. From perfectionism and trauma responses to Sabbath mentality and stewardship, this conversation reframes rest not as a reward for finishing—but as the foundation from which healthy leadership flows. If you've ever struggled to turn your brain off, tied your worth to productivity, or felt trapped in pressure-driven performance, this episode offers both spiritual clarity and practical tools to lead from peace instead of pressure. [00:00 – 02:30] Why Rest Feels So Uncomfortable for Leaders • Why the word rest can trigger guilt, fear, or shame. • How modern work culture rewards constant output over sustainable rhythm. • Introducing the tension between high achievement and overachievement. [02:31 – 05:30] When High Achievement Turns into Striving • The internal pressure that drives overwork more than deadlines do. • Why overachieving often leads to burnout, not impact. • How striving reveals deeper issues of trust and identity. [05:31 – 09:00] Rest Begins Before the Work • “Rest doesn't begin when you're done—it precedes the work.” • Understanding Sabbath as a posture, not just a practice. • Why so many leaders struggle to quiet their minds at night. [09:01 – 12:30] Boundaries, Trust, and God's Design for Work • Why anxiety increases when boundaries are absent. • How Sabbath helps leaders recognize when striving begins. • Clarifying what belongs to us—and what belongs to God. [12:31 – 16:00] Grace as the Diagnostic Tool • How to tell whether you're operating in grace or pressure. • Why grace doesn't remove difficulty—but brings ease. • Learning to identify where God is already at work. [16:01 – 19:30] Perfectionism, Trauma, and Leadership Culture • How perfectionism is often rooted in a lack of contentment. • Why control can be a trauma response, not a leadership strength. • The impact of unresolved patterns on teams and organizations. [19:31 – 22:30] Stewardship vs. Ownership • Why leaders often carry weight they were never meant to hold. • The difference between being an owner and a steward. • How stewardship restores margin, clarity, and peace. [22:31 – End] Practical Practices for Restful Leadership • Using Scripture, worship, and journaling to retrain the mind. • Creating margin as a spiritual discipline. • Leading from identity as a daughter and friend of God—not performance. Quotes: “Rest doesn't begin when you're done working—it precedes the work.” – Colleen Rouse “Grace doesn't make your job easier; it gives you ease while doing it.” – Colleen Rouse “You have nothing to prove. You have everything to give.” – Colleen Rouse About Colleen Rouse: Colleen Rouse is the founder of Thrive Today and the founding pastor of Victory Church in Norcross, Georgia. She is a trusted voice for faith-centered leadership, helping high-capacity leaders move from pressure-driven performance to grace-filled stewardship. Connect with Thrive Today:
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born sits down with executive coach, former diplomat, and author Rene Sonneveld for a powerful conversation about leadership, innovation, and the unseen forces that shape both.Rene explores why innovation doesn't begin with strategy decks or brainstorm sessions—but with the courage to name what everyone feels and no one is saying. From family enterprises to executive teams, he explains how unspoken fears, emotional blind spots, and “elephants in the room” quietly block creativity and decision-making. This episode is a must-listen for leaders navigating complexity, legacy, and high-stakes conversations—at work and at home.[00:00 – 02:30] Innovation Begins Where Certainty EndsWhy innovation often emerges from confusion, fear, and discomfort—not clarity.Rene's global experience working with leaders and enterprise families.The link between emotional honesty and transformational leadership.[02:31 – 05:50] The Elephant in the Family RoomWhat leaders lose when they avoid naming the real issue.How trapped energy and unspoken tension collapse creativity.Why this dynamic shows up in families, boards, and executive teams alike.[05:51 – 09:40] Leaders Don't Have Decision Problems—They Have Emotion-Naming ProblemsHow fear hijacks the nervous system and shuts down innovation.Fight, flight, or freeze responses in leadership settings.Why regulation—not fearlessness—creates better decisions.[09:41 – 13:30] “Flipping the Lid” and the Amygdala HijackHow psychological threats trigger reactive leadership behavior.Why leaders say “the wrong thing” under pressure.The importance of pausing, breathing, and naming emotions to restore clarity.[13:31 – 16:40] Naming Fear as the Gateway to BreakthroughWhy innovation cannot thrive in environments of fear or walking on eggshells.How truth-telling frees energy and reactivates creativity.A real-world example of long-stuck family dynamics unlocking new possibilities.[16:41 – 19:20] Authenticity, Messiness, and Modern LeadershipWhy authenticity is becoming increasingly rare.The cost of performative leadership—especially in the age of social media.Why innovation flourishes when leaders allow complexity and humanity.[19:21 – 22:50] Stories, Identity, and the Lids We Put on OurselvesHow internal narratives limit leadership capacity.Why the lies we believe quietly cap innovation.Reframing leadership as presence, not perfection.[22:51 – 25:10] Ecosystems That Support InnovationWhy environment matters—at work and at home.The connection between place, pace, and creative capacity.Designing a life and leadership context that allows innovation to breathe.[25:11 – 27:40] Final Reflections: Innovation as a PracticeWhy innovation is not a performance—but a daily practice.Rene's parting message on courage, imagination, and trust.How naming truth transforms fear into possibility.Quotes“Innovation doesn't start with what we put on paper. It starts with naming the things we are most afraid to say.” – Rene Sonneveld“Most leaders don't have decision-making problems—they have emotion-naming problems.” – Rene Sonneveld“Naming isn't confrontation. Naming is liberation.” – Rene SonneveldGuest LinksWebsite: https://www.renesonneveld.com/Book: The Elephant in the Family Room – Managing the Complexities of Legacy BusinessIf this conversation sparked something in you, trust that spark—because innovation starts there.Leave a review and share this episode with a leader who needs the courage to name what's been left unsaid. And don't forget to check out Natalie Born's book, Set It on Fire: The Art of Innovation, available now at setitonfire.co—a powerful guide for leaders ready to break patterns and transform how innovation actually happens.Visit innovationmeetsleadership.com and connect with us on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube.Don't just get out of the box—break the box and set it on fire.Let's go transform something!
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born welcomes back Ron Crabtree—founder and CEO of MetaOps and MetaExperts, global process improvement leader, and one of the most respected voices in Lean and operational excellence. This conversation takes a deep dive into value stream mapping, a powerful visual methodology that helps leaders uncover hidden inefficiencies, reduce cycle time, improve quality, and identify the smartest opportunities for digitization and AI.If you want a clearer view of where your business is wasting time, losing money, or missing value, this episode is your blueprint.[00:00 – 03:00] Why Value Stream Mapping Still MattersRon returns to discuss deeper layers of process improvement and Lean thinking.Deming's foundational principle: If you can't describe your work as a process, you don't know what you're doing.Value stream mapping as a visual + data-driven methodology to understand workflow end-to-end.[03:01 – 07:00] Defining the Mission: What Problem Are We Solving For?Understanding the organizational challenge: cost, quality, speed, or customer experience.Toyota's SQDCMP hierarchy (Safety, Quality, Delivery, Cost, Productivity, Morale).Selecting the scope and granularity of a mapping effort based on the business challenge.[07:01 – 10:00] Where Digitization and AI Fit InWhy not all automation opportunities are equally valuable.Using value stream mapping to identify high-ROI areas for digitization and AI.[10:01 – 14:00] Beyond Manufacturing: Value Stream Mapping for Any IndustryHow even non-technical environments—like historical sites—benefit from mapping their visitor and customer journey.[14:01 – 17:00] Swim Lanes, Roles & the Hidden Complexity in HR ProcessesUsing swim lane diagrams to visualize handoffs, approvals, and compliance requirements.A real-world hiring example showing a six-month cycle time inside a government agency.[17:01 – 20:00] The Power of Hard Numbers in Decision MakingWhy mapping requires both visuals and data to measure true performance.Ron's example from a defined benefits company: identifying the percentage of time spent on rework, verification, and corrections.[20:01 – 23:00] When Processes Are Physically InefficientHow spaghetti diagrams expose unnecessary movement, travel time, and equipment downtime.Distinguishing internal vs. external activities to reduce waste during machine setup or maintenance.[23:01 – 26:00] The University Email Story: From 17 Steps to ZeroA university's onboarding process involved 17 steps and two weeks of delays.A powerful demonstration of innovation + efficiency working hand in hand.[26:01 – 27:00] Efficiency vs. Innovation: Why Leaders Need BothMany companies over-index on either efficiency or innovation—but not both.Understanding your value stream helps leaders see where inefficiencies hinder innovation.Ron shares where listeners can find his work, his podcast, and how to connect.Quotes“If you can't describe what you're doing as a process, you don't know what you're doing.” – Ron Crabtree“Value stream mapping helps you see where to apply digitization and AI with laser focus.” – Ron CrabtreeConnect with Ron CrabtreeWebsite: metaexperts.comLinkedIn: Ron Crabtree, MetaOps & MetaExpertsPodcast: MetaExperts Workforce ExcellenceIf this conversation inspired you, leave a review and share this episode with a leader who's ready to rethink how their organization creates value.
In this powerful and deeply encouraging conversation, Natalie Born sits down with wealth advocate, author, and speaker Tricia Daniel to unpack what it truly means to face financial storms with joy, wisdom, and unwavering faith. Drawing from her own journey through divorce, job loss, caregiving, and rebuilding from scratch, Tricia shares how women can break free from money shame, access the resources God has already placed around them, and create a practical “CARE plan” that keeps their families grounded even when life hits hard. If you've ever felt unprepared, anxious, or alone when navigating money challenges, this episode reminds you that resilience isn't about having perfect finances—it's about having deep roots, biblical perspective, and a plan anchored in God's truth. [00:00 – 03:00] Introducing Tricia & the Hidden Crisis of Money Shame - Why money conversations are often avoided—even in families and churches. - Tricia's background as a third-generation financial expert and her personal story of starting over. - The surprising number of Bible verses about money and why financial stewardship is deeply spiritual. [03:01 – 06:45] Rebuilding After Loss & the Weight of Financial Anxiety - How divorce, job loss, and caregiving can suddenly wipe out finances. - Why shame keeps women silent—and how sharing our stories brings healing. - The importance of trusted communities for support, guidance, and empowerment. [06:46 – 11:00] Cultivating Deep Roots: Building Your Spiritual & Financial Foundation - The “tree planted by the water” metaphor and how Scripture anchors us during financial storms. - Why women must develop a root system strong enough to withstand crises. - The reality of systems failing (like government shutdowns) and learning to lean on God first. [11:01 – 14:30] The CARE Plan: A Practical Framework for Financial Preparedness C — Cash: Knowing how much you need to care for your family for 1–6 months. A — Accessibility: Ensuring you can access money quickly in emergencies. R — Resources: Leveraging financial AND non-financial support systems. E — Efficiency: Creating a clear execution plan your family understands. - Visual tools (circles, shapes, trees) to help families understand money. - Why financial stewardship is “surrender, not spreadsheets.” [14:31 – 16:45] Breaking Generational Silence & Bringing Kids Into the Conversation - How cultural norms keep money conversations hidden—and why that must shift. - Helping children build healthy money mindsets early. - Transforming family narratives from secrecy to confidence and stewardship. [16:46 – 20:00] “Finish the Unfinished”: Obedience, Calling & Financial Breakthrough - The word God gave Tricia: finish the unfinished. - How delayed obedience stalls provision, purpose, and generational impact. - The reminder that our next financial breakthrough is often hidden inside the assignment we've been avoiding. [20:01 – End] What's in Your House? Seeing What God Has Already Provided - The widow's oil as a model for resourcefulness and faith. - Why God often uses what's already in our hands to increase our capacity. - How non-monetary resources—community, creativity, connections—can be the key to rebuilding. Quotes: “Financial stewardship is surrender, not spreadsheets.” – Tricia Daniel “Your CARE plan is your financial ‘go bag'—faith-filled, practical, and ready when life shifts.” – Tricia Daniel “Money shame keeps us silent, but shared stories set us free.” – Tricia Daniel “Financial resilience isn't built on money—it's built on where your roots are planted.” About Tricia Daniel: Tricia Daniel is a wealth advocate, speaker, and author who helps women overcome financial anxiety and rebuild confidence after life's unexpected shifts. A third-generation financial expert with decades in corporate finance and public accounting, she combines practical wisdom with deep faith to empower others to steward their money with clarity, courage, and joy.
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, Natalie Born sits down with Quentin Florence and Doug Vanderlinde, the founders of Coplanar Capital, to explore a powerful reframing of wealth, investment, and calling. With a faith-driven mission and a deep belief in stewardship, Quentin and Doug unpack why the future of investing isn't just about capital — it's about identity, leadership, and multiplying what's been entrusted to you.Together, they demystify early-stage investing, share how founders can position themselves for meaningful funding, and introduce their signature framework: I Am. I Have. I Do. [00:00 – 04:00] Introducing Coplanar Capital & the Heart Behind Investing- Why Quentin and Doug see investing as stewardship, not speculation.- How the parable of the talents shapes their view of multiplying what you've been given.- Reframing investing as a calling, not just a financial discipline.[04:01 – 08:00] What's Really Happening in the Investment Landscape- Why big funds are getting bigger — often through marketing rather than performance.- Coplanar Capital's mission: generate outstanding returns while doing good.[08:01 – 12:30] What Investors Look for First: The Founder- Why leadership matters more than the invention itself.- The I Am. I Have. I Do. framework: clarity of identity, resources, and action.- What your company communicates about who you are as a leader.[12:31 – 16:30] The Psychology of Founders & Investors- Fear, rejection, and shrinking comfort zones — and why both sides experience them.- Why humility, clarity, and emotional security matter during the pitch process.- How investors evaluate founders beyond the pitch deck.[16:31 – 18:30] Identity Investing: Leading With Both Head and Heart- Why metrics alone won't guide you — and intuition alone won't protect you.- The shift from public to private markets and why identity matters more there.- Finding investments that “make your heart spark.”[18:31 – 22:00] What Makes a Startup Attractive? Market, Fit & Optionality- Understanding TAM (Total Addressable Market) and why market size matters.- Optionality: the importance of having more than one way to win.- Why agility, pivots, and adaptability matter more than perfect plans.[22:01 – 24:00] The Relentless Mindset Founders Must Have- Why valuing the process over the results is essential for survival.- How to process failure through learning instead of shame.- Why every investor has failed — and founders shouldn't fear that reality.[24:01 – 28:30] Double-Result Investing: Better Returns and a Better World- Breaking the myth that you must choose between returns and impact.- Why scarcity thinking limits innovation — and how founders can rise above it.Quotes“The leaders who perform the best are the ones completely secure in their calling.” — Quentin Florence“Great investing is both head and heart — metrics matter, but so does what sparks your passion.” — Doug Vanderlinde“You don't need either great returns or a better world. In the right hands, you can have both.” — Doug VanderlindeConnect with Coplanar CapitalWebsite: coplanarcapital.com LinkedIn – Quentin Florence: https://www.linkedin.com/in/quentin-florence-750137b/LinkedIn – Doug Vanderlinde: https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglas-vander-linde/If this conversation inspired you, don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with a founder, investor, or leader who's ready to grow through innovation.
In this powerful conversation, Natalie Born sits down with speaker, advocate, and compassion-driven leader Brenda Chand to explore what it really means to see people through the eyes of hope—not judgment. Brenda shares her personal story of growing up in a difficult environment, how those early experiences shaped her desire to champion others, and why leaders must resist the cultural pull toward criticism and comparison. From the power of presence, to loving people in their mess, to cultivating spaces where grace leads the way, Brenda offers deeply practical and spiritually grounded wisdom. If you've ever struggled with self-worth, dealt with hidden pain, or felt the weight of others' expectations, this episode reminds you that freedom begins with being seen—and seeing others—with compassion. [00:00 – 05:00] Brenda's Early Story & Hidden Pain * Brenda shares childhood memories that shaped her understanding of shame, secrecy, and survival. * How growing up in a home marked by instability taught her to recognize pain in others. * Why empathy begins with acknowledging our own broken places. [05:01 – 10:00] The Moment Everything Shifted * Brenda reflects on the internal questions that followed her into adulthood. * Realizing that her story wasn't a source of shame—but a source of ministry. * How God used her past to ignite a calling to help others experience hope. [10:01 – 14:30] Casting Hope, Not Stones * What it means to “cast hope” in a world that's quick to criticize. * Practical ways leaders can respond with compassion instead of judgment. * Why withholding criticism isn't weakness—it's strength rooted in purpose. [14:31 – 20:00] The Power of Being Seen * Brenda explains why many people don't need solutions—they need presence. * How leaders can create environments where people feel safe to show their real story. * Natalie and Brenda discuss the spiritual discipline of seeing people the way God does. [20:01 – 25:00] Loving People Through Their Mess * Why people often behave from places of unspoken pain. * The importance of curiosity over assumptions. * How to walk with someone through transformation without carrying the weight for them. [25:01 – End] Hope as a Leadership Strategy * How compassion fuels influence, loyalty, and authentic connection. * Questions leaders can ask to remain grounded in grace and truth. * Brenda's encouragement to anyone wrestling with identity, shame, or purpose. Quotes: “When we lead with compassion, we create space for people to breathe, heal, and belong.” – Brenda Chand “Hope is an invitation. Judgment is a barrier. Leaders get to choose which one they build.” – Brenda Chand “Your story isn't something to hide. It's the very place God wants to speak through.” – Brenda Chand About Brenda Chand: Brenda Chand is a speaker, mentor, and advocate passionate about helping people move from shame to purpose. Drawing from her own journey of overcoming childhood adversity, Brenda equips individuals and leaders to offer compassion, hope, and healing in their spheres of influence. Connect with Brenda: Website: https://www.dreamreleaser.com Connect with Thrive Today: * Website: thrivetoday.com * Instagram: @thrivetodaywomen * LinkedIn: Thrive Today * Facebook: Thrive Today Women Loved this episode? ⭐️ Subscribe and leave a 5-star review to help more women grow in faith and leadership.
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born sits down with Jolynn Ledgerwood, learning and development expert, certified Gallup Strengths coach, and founder of Elevate Your Talent. With over 25 years of experience working with global brands like PepsiCo, Frito-Lay, and Toyota, Jolynn introduces us to a transformative methodology called LEGO® Serious Play, a hands-on approach that sparks creativity, strengthens collaboration, and unlocks hidden insights within teams.Together, Natalie and Jolynn explore how “thinking with your hands” activates up to 80% more brain power, why play is vital for innovation and well-being, and how leaders can create environments where every voice, from the CEO to the intern, has a seat at the table. From high school athletes to corporate teams, this episode proves that the opposite of play isn't work, it's stagnation.[00:00 – 03:00] Jolynn's Journey into LEGO® Serious PlayFrom corporate learning roles at PepsiCo and Toyota to creative facilitation.How LEGO® reinvented itself and how Jolynn discovered its team-building power.Only 100 certified practitioners in the U.S. versus 15,000 in Europe, why Americans still struggle to see “play” as productive.[03:01 – 07:00] The Science of Thinking with Your HandsUsing LEGO® unlocks up to 80% more brain power.The four-step methodology: question → build → share → reflect.How creativity allows all personality types, even quiet thinkers, to express themselves fully.[07:01 – 10:00] Building Trust and Curiosity Through PlayLEGO® Serious Play creates safe, judgment-free conversations.Why every build is “right” for the person who made it.Metaphors and subconscious meaning in simple pieces and the power of asking, “Tell me more about what you built.”[10:01 – 14:00] Real-World Example: A Basketball Team's TransformationFacilitating a workshop with a high school girls' team to build unity.How players gained empathy and emotional awareness through their builds.Discovering that supporting teammates means seeing beyond performance.[14:01 – 18:00] Courageous Leadership and Unexpected InsightsWhy it takes a brave leader to invite play into the workplace.LEGO® as a tool for perspective-taking and emotional intelligence.Seeing the same model from different angles and how it changes interpretation.[18:01 – 22:00] Building Culture in Times of ChangeHow LEGO® sessions rebuild morale after layoffs or restructuring.The danger of calling connection “fluff” and why it's business-critical.Creating “simple guiding principles” from each session to carry forward.[22:01 – 25:00] Play as a Pathway to InnovationThe opposite of play isn't work, it's depression.Inviting creativity through LEGO®, Play-Doh, or even watercolor.How play fosters engagement, focus, and retention in teams.[25:01 – 27:00] Final Reflections and Call to LeadersWhy leaders must make space for curiosity and fun at work.Mary Poppins wisdom: “In every job that must be done, there's an element of fun.”When teams play together, innovation follows naturally.Quotes:“It takes a courageous leader to bring play into the workplace.” – Jolynn Ledgerwood“Leaders who embrace creativity give permission for authenticity.” – Jolynn Ledgerwood“You never know what your team is capable of until you invite play into the process.” – Jolynn LedgerwoodWebsite: elevateyourtalent.coLinkedIn: Jolynn Ledgerwood Podcast: Play for PerformanceIf this conversation inspired you, leave a review and share this episode with a leader who's ready to reimagine what creativity and connection look like at work.
In this inspiring conversation, host Natalie Born welcomes back Jacquel Tucker—entrepreneur, leadership coach, and founder of the J. Tucker Group—to help leaders reframe what it truly means to finish well. As the year draws to a close, Jacquel shares how faith, focus, and intentional reflection can turn fatigue into fresh fire. Together, Natalie and Jacquel unpack how leaders can regain momentum, celebrate progress, and bring clarity to their next season—without burnout or striving. If you've ever felt like you're running out of steam before the finish line, this episode will remind you that ending strong isn't about perfection—it's about purpose, integrity, and trusting God with what's next. [00:00 – 03:00] Rethinking What It Means to Finish Well - Jacquel explains why finishing strong isn't about checking every box but leading with integrity and peace. - The mindset shift: milestones build momentum for the next season. - How Colossians 3:23 shapes her philosophy of working “unto the Lord.” [03:01 – 07:00] Finding Your Second Wind - Why leaders lose momentum between January's enthusiasm and December's fatigue. - How rest, reflection, and reliance on God help restore clarity and drive. - Identifying what's working—and what to release—before stepping into the next season. [07:01 – 10:00] Accountability and Celebration - Natalie shares the power of quarterly reviews to stay on track. - Jacquel's analogy of “the game played in inches”—progress happens step by step. - Why teams must build in moments of celebration to sustain motivation and joy. [10:01 – 14:00] Leading Teams with Purpose - The importance of connecting individual “whys” to company goals. - How cascading goals and contextual communication help teams stay aligned. - Why understanding the “why” transforms compliance into ownership. [14:01 – 17:00] Inviting Collaboration and Creativity - Jacquel shares how inclusive goal-setting unlocks innovation at every level. - How involving your team early builds buy-in and breakthrough ideas. - Why leaders must cultivate an environment where ideas can flow freely. [17:01 – End] Entering the Next Season with Clarity - Practical questions to ask as you close the year: What worked? What didn't? What's next? - How celebration, gratitude, and reflection position you to lead from strength in the year ahead. - A reminder that finishing well is not about doing more—it's about trusting God to complete what He started. Quotes: “Finishing well doesn't always mean you hit every goal—it means you've led with integrity and peace.” – Jacquel Tucker “We can't reach the next level until we master where we are.” – Jacquel Tucker “Momentum builds when we pause, reflect, and realign with God's vision.” – Jacquel Tucker About Jacquel Tucker: Jacquel Tucker is a leadership coach, entrepreneur, and founder of the J. Tucker Group, where she equips leaders to build purpose-driven teams and faith-centered businesses. Drawing from her background in hospitality, sales, and ministry, Jacquel inspires individuals and organizations to lead with excellence, service, and heart. Connect with Jacquel:
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born sits down with Brad McDonald — leadership designer, executive coach, and co-founder of Pattern Talent. With a mission to develop one million leaders, Brad brings deep insights from his work with organizations like Chick-fil-A, the U.S. Army, and the City of Phoenix.Together, Natalie and Brad unpack the four dimensions of leadership — Character, Chemistry, Competence, and Capacity — and explore how these timeless principles shape emotionally intelligent, high-impact leaders. From building self-awareness to cultivating trust and unlocking the potential in others, this episode is a masterclass in leading with both head and heart.[00:00 – 04:00] Brad's Leadership JourneyGrowing up in a leadership-centered home and learning from his parents' example.How early exposure to servant leadership through Chick-fil-A shaped his philosophy.Why Brad chose to dedicate his life's work to developing leaders across industries.[04:01 – 08:00] Character: The Foundation of LeadershipAsking the essential question: Who am I as a leader?How self-awareness and emotional intelligence prevent unintentional harm.Why humility, integrity, and consistency build credibility and lasting trust.[08:01 – 12:00] Chemistry: Building High-Trust RelationshipsRedefining “likability” through authentic curiosity and connection.The power of emotional security and presence when entering a room.Why curiosity and trust are the hidden superpowers of relational leadership.[12:01 – 18:00] Competence: Knowing Your Unique ValueMoving beyond skill to unique value contribution.Engaging both the head and heart of your team for sustainable performance.The difference between teaching and modeling — why imitation builds true capability.[18:01 – 24:00] Capacity: Developing Leaders Who Multiply LeadersHow to identify and nurture untapped potential in others.The leader's role in creating “more, better, autonomous” leaders.Why leadership capacity expands through empowering others, not controlling them.[24:01 – 29:00] The Refining Fire of LeadershipNavigating challenges, setbacks, and chaos with resilience and perspective.How to process leadership growth questions in community, not isolation.Staying grounded and open through curiosity, humility, and feedback.[29:01 – 31:00] Closing ReflectionsBrad's call for leaders to invest deeply in both themselves and those they lead.How community, trust, and transparency unlock lasting transformation.“Low self-awareness can unintentionally make or break a leader.” – Brad McDonald“Great leaders cultivate genuine curiosity about the people around them.” – Brad McDonald“If you want infinite capacity as a leader, it's found in your ability to develop the capacity of others.” – Brad McDonaldWebsite: patterntalent.coPodcast: The Daily LeaderIf this conversation inspired you, don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with a leader who's ready to grow through innovation.
In this uplifting episode of Thrive Today, host Natalie Born welcomes back bestselling author and researcher Shaunti Feldhahn for a deeply encouraging conversation about the transformative power of kindness. Drawing from her groundbreaking research and her latest writing on the subject, Shaunti reveals how even the smallest acts of kindness can transform relationships, reshape cultures, and revive weary hearts. Together, Natalie and Shaunti explore what happens when leaders intentionally choose compassion over criticism, and how faith empowers us to lead with grace in a world that often prizes efficiency over empathy. If you've ever doubted whether kindness truly makes a difference, this episode will remind you that genuine kindness isn't just nice—it's revolutionary. [00:01 – 06:50] The Science and Spirit of Kindness - Shaunti shares her global research journey exploring kindness across organizations and communities. - Why kindness is not weakness—it's one of the most powerful leadership tools we have. - The neuroscience behind kindness and its profound effects on engagement and trust. [06:51 – 12:40] The Ripple Effect in Leadership - How one person's consistent kindness can shift an entire culture. - The stories behind workplaces that turned around through empathy and grace. - Why small, intentional acts matter more than grand gestures. [12:41 – 18:00] Faith, Psychology, and the Human Heart - How Scripture and science agree: we are designed for kindness. - The spiritual truth that kindness reflects the heart of God. - How choosing kindness reshapes our thoughts, emotions, and reactions. [18:01 – 23:50] Practicing Kindness in Real Time - How to pause before reacting and choose gentleness instead. - Daily disciplines that help cultivate a “kindness reflex.” - Why authentic kindness goes deeper than surface-level niceness. [23:51 – 28:00] Leadership That Heals - How kindness restores dignity and unlocks creativity in others. - The unexpected business and relational outcomes of grace-filled leadership. - Shaunti's invitation to each listener: be the one who breaks the cycle of harshness with compassion. Quotes: “Kindness isn't weakness, it's strength under control.” – Shaunti Feldhahn “We underestimate how powerful one kind response can be in changing someone's day or their life.” – Shaunti Feldhahn “God wired us for kindness because it heals what harshness breaks.” – Shaunti Feldhahn About Shaunti Feldhahn: Shaunti Feldhahn is a social researcher, bestselling author, and speaker whose work bridges faith and science to reveal what helps people thrive in relationships and leadership. Known for her bestselling books The Kindness Challenge and For Women Only, Shaunti equips leaders, couples, and organizations with research-backed principles for cultivating connection and compassion in everyday life. Connect with Shaunti:
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, Natalie Born sits down with Louisa Loran, former Google executive and author of Leadership Anatomy in Motion. With an impressive career spanning Diageo, Maersk, and Google, Louisa has redefined what it means to lead across industries—from building billion-dollar supply chains to transforming legacy business models.Louisa reveals how curiosity, courage, and emotional intelligence fuel lasting transformation. She shares stories of stepping into roles before she felt “ready,” challenging corporate norms, and helping leaders unlearn habits that limit potential. Whether you're navigating rapid change or seeking to inspire courage in your team, this episode will help you unlock your own leadership evolution.[00:00 – 04:00] Louisa's Journey Across IndustriesFrom Diageo to Maersk to Google—how curiosity guided her bold career transitions.Lessons from moving between consumer goods, logistics, and tech.Understanding brand legacy and the courage to step into unfamiliar worlds.[04:01 – 08:00] The Power of Curiosity and Self-BeliefWhy curiosity is a leader's greatest asset.Louisa's seventh-grade dream of joining LVMH—and how it came true.Taking chances on roles you're “not qualified” for and learning through action.[08:01 – 11:00] Courage in Leadership TransformationWriting Maersk's transformational strategy amid major restructuring.Why success isn't just about having the right answers but addressing hidden fears.How courage and curiosity unlock organizational change.[11:01 – 13:00] The Art of Asking Better QuestionsHow to ask questions that invite reflection instead of resistance.Building emotional intelligence and influence through curiosity.Positioning ideas for buy-in and collaboration at the executive level.[13:01 – 16:00] Lessons from Google: A New Way of ThinkingShifting from hierarchical strategy to platform-based innovation.Learning to hold back as a leader and empower teams through exploration.Merging traditional business discipline with digital-era agility.[16:01 – 21:00] The Four Pillars of Future LeadershipVisioning – Envisioning ambitious futures beyond current limits.Expanding – Leveraging collective intelligence to grow faster.Steering – Prioritizing and staffing for the future.Embodying – Becoming the leader your future organization needs.[21:01 – 23:00] Transforming from the Inside OutWhy every transformation must start with the leader themselves.How fear and comfort can silently limit organizational growth.Encouraging leaders to unlearn and relearn continuously.[23:01 – 24:00] Closing ReflectionsLouisa's call to unlock “lost potential” within organizations.How to continue the conversation and bring courage into your own leadership journey.Quotes:“Curiosity is the driver that unlocks both courage and innovation.” – Louisa Loran“It's not about having the right answers—it's about understanding what's holding people back from acting on them.” – Louisa Loran“Any business led by someone unwilling to start the transformation within themselves is wasting its greatest resource.” – Louisa LoranConnect with Louisa LoranWebsite: louisaloran.comLinkedIn: Louisa LoranBook: Leadership Anatomy in MotionLEAVE A REVIEW + help another leader grow through innovation by sharing this episode, or click here to catch up on past episodes.
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, Natalie Born sits down with Doug C. Brown, CEO of CEO Sales Strategies and a sales growth expert who has generated over $900M in revenue for clients worldwide. Doug reveals how math, metrics, and automation can transform any sales organization into a predictable growth engine. From reducing refund rates by spotting hidden blind spots, to building AI-driven automation that scales follow-up and accelerates closes, Doug brings decades of experience that will challenge how you see sales. If you want your team to stop “throwing spaghetti at the wall” and start building sustainable revenue systems, this episode is for you.[00:01 - 04:00] The Power of Math in SalesHow Doug discovered “holes” in sales systems through metrics.The Tony Robbins & Chet Holmes case study: reducing refund rates from 16% to under 1%.Why blind spots exist in every business—and how to find them.[04:01 - 10:00] Lessons from Early Business and LeadershipRunning his father's business at 16 and learning optimization early.The “flat tire” analogy: why outside perspectives reveal what leaders miss.How math tells a story that leads to better decisions.[10:01 - 14:00] Shifts in Sales Post-PandemicWhy the sales process has permanently changed.The rise of conversational selling.Consumers are more educated than ever—how to adapt.[14:01 - 19:00] Three Steps to Improve Your Sales Team TodayGet truthful goals from every salesperson.Define your ideal right-fit buyer (97% of companies don't).Start measuring simple sales metrics: outreach, connections, responses, closes.[19:01 - 24:00] Automation and the Fortune in Follow-UpWhy consistent follow-up unlocks 5–15% more revenue.Automating repetitive sales tasks with CRMs and AI.Real examples: insurance sales, concierge AI, SiriusXM upsell systems.[24:01 - 29:00] AI as a Sales Multiplier, Not a Job KillerRita, the AI concierge, and how it redefined customer experience.AI's role in profiling, research, and buyer engagement.Start small: automate one repetitive task, then scale.[29:01 - 31:00] Final Insights & How to Connect with DougPractical steps to embrace automation and AI in sales.Why ignoring sales automation means falling behind competitors.Quotes“Every company has blind spots. Use math and metrics to find untapped revenue.” – Doug C. Brown“Ninety-seven percent of companies don't know their ideal buyer. That's wasted money and effort.” – Doug C. Brown“The fortune is in the follow-up. Automate it, and you'll unlock growth you didn't know you had.” – Doug C. BrownGuest LinksWebsite: ceosalesstrategies.comLinkedIn: Doug BrownNewsletter: ceosalesstrategies.com/newsletterEmail: doug@ceosalesstrategies.comLEAVE A REVIEW + help someone scale their revenue with clarity and precision by sharing this episode or click here to catch up on past episodes.
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, Natalie Born sits down with Scott Smith, CEO of True Network Advisors. Scott has transformed the employee benefits industry by building a thriving community of 93+ member agencies and curating industry-leading events that go beyond networking—they create unforgettable experiences.From humble beginnings in rural Alabama to leading one of the most collaborative networks in the industry, Scott shares how trust, authenticity, and obsession with customer experience fueled his journey. If you've ever wondered how to build communities that not only grow but last—or how leaders can balance kindness with clarity—this conversation is for you.[00:00 – 04:00] Scott's Origin StoryHow encouragement from peers led to founding True Network Advisors.Starting with 19 agencies in 2016 and scaling to 93+ today.Why being good and kind to people built the foundation for success.[04:01 – 09:00] Designing Experiences That MatterThe early missteps—like discovering hotel coffee costs $130 a gallon.Building events around learning first, fun second.Moving away from stuffy, transactional events toward collaboration, casual settings, and genuine connection.[09:01 – 13:00] Mission, Identity, and CreativityTrue's simple mission: “Help agencies and people grow, develop, and prosper.”Defining community identity: smart, curious, kind people who crave collaboration.Why it's okay to be “repulsive” to the wrong people—and magnetic to the right ones.[13:01 – 18:00] Authenticity and Vulnerability in LeadershipThe role of self-awareness and embracing who you are.Scott's personal story of growing up in rural Alabama and the impact of his father's struggles.How vulnerability builds trust and helps people feel less alone.[18:01 – 24:00] Kindness Meets ClarityWhy true kindness often requires tough conversations.Leadership as balancing honesty, accountability, and care.How clarity prevents blind spots that can derail careers.[24:01 – 29:00] Leadership Lessons LearnedStarting True at 45—and why he wishes he had risked earlier.The superpower of listening with empathy.Why kindness always wins, and how to ground leadership in love and care for others.“Listening is a superpower. If you become the best listener in the universe, you'll stand out in any room.” – Scott Smith“Kindness isn't just being nice. Sometimes the kindest thing you can do is tell the hard truth.” – Scott Smith“Our mission is simple: help agencies and people grow, develop, and prosper. Everything flows from that.” – Scott SmithLinkedIn: Scott Smith – True Network Advisors (search True Network Advisors Scott Smith)Website: truenetworkadvisors.comConcert Series: lakecityconcerts.comLEAVE A REVIEW + help someone lead with clarity and courage by sharing this episode, or click here to catch up on past episodes.
In this inspiring episode of Thrive Today, host Natalie Born sits down with Roshanda Pratt—former TV news producer turned communication strategist, visibility coach, and storyteller extraordinaire. Roshanda unpacks what it really means to build influence that goes deeper than likes, clicks, or surface-level visibility. Together, they explore how courageous communication, collaboration, growth mindset, and vulnerability shape authentic leadership. Roshanda also shares personal stories of adversity and faith that reveal how influence can change not just organizations, but lives. If you've ever wondered how to show up, speak up, and scale up your impact, this conversation is for you. [00:01 – 07:20] Why Influence Matters - Influence is about more than marketing—it's about moving people to action. - Courageous communication begins with creating safe spaces for others to be seen and heard. - True leadership requires humility, curiosity, and a willingness to listen. [07:21 – 13:50] Vulnerability as a Leadership Strength - Why “visibility is power”—and why you deserve to be seen, heard, and paid. - Jesus as the model of transparency and vulnerability with Thomas. - Collaboration as a form of vulnerability: inviting others into the process. [13:51 – 20:00] Growth Mindset in Action - Challenges are not happening to you, but for you. - Learning to invite God into decision-making and leadership moments. - A powerful story of forgiveness and provision in business. [20:01 – 24:30] Influence Through Adversity - Roshanda's vulnerable story of navigating grief and sharing it openly. - How transparency in hardship creates resonance and builds trust. - Influence comes when you give people language for what they're experiencing. [24:31 – 25:57] Practical Steps to Cultivate Influence - Start with your why—life gives you clues about your calling. - Don't despise small beginnings: influence grows through consistency. - Commit to showing up for your people the way God consistently shows up for us. Quotes: “Visibility is power—you deserve to be seen, heard, and paid.” – Roshanda Pratt “Challenges aren't happening to you; they're happening for you.” – Roshanda Pratt “Influence isn't about a platform; it's about giving people language for what they can't yet say.” – Roshanda Pratt About Roshanda Pratt: Roshanda Pratt is a former TV news producer turned visibility coach and communication strategist. Known as “your visibility coach,” she equips leaders to show up, speak up, and scale up through the power of storytelling. Roshanda is passionate about helping women master their message, own their voice, and lead with influence that matters. Connect with Roshanda: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roshandaepratt/ Connect with Natalie: Website: https://innovationmeetsleadership.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalieborn/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innovationmeetsleadership/# Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/innovationmeetsleadership TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@innovationleadership X (Twitter): https://www.tiktok.com/@innovationleadership Learn More about Thrive Today: Website: https://thrivetoday.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/thrivetodaywomen LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/thrive-today-women Facebook: https://facebook.com/ThriveTodayWomen Loved this episode? ⭐️ Subscribe and leave us a 5-STAR review to help more women cultivate their influence and lead with courage. ⭐️
In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, Natalie Born sits down with Dr. Scott Hutcheson, biosocial scientist, senior lecturer at Purdue University, and author of Biohacking Leadership. Scott blends his academic expertise with real-world experience advising organizations—from startups to the White House—to uncover how biology shapes leadership and team performance. Drawing from both personal health insights and decades of research, Scott introduces “leadership biodynamics,” a model that reframes executive presence into measurable signals of warmth, competence, and gravitas. With 18 behavioral biomarkers and a practical diagnostic framework, leaders can finally translate the vague idea of presence into actionable skills that inspire trust, connection, and results. If you've ever wondered how to amplify your leadership impact—or why your influence isn't landing the way you intend—this conversation is for you.[00:00 – 04:00] Scott's Journey into Biohacking LeadershipFrom organizational transformation failures to biosocial science.A diabetes diagnosis sparks personal biohacking experiments.How biology and behavior intersect in leadership performance.[04:01 – 09:00] Redefining Executive PresenceWhy “executive presence” has been vague and poorly researched.Breaking it down into “executive” (thinking) and “presence” (behavior).The birth of leadership biodynamics: 18 biomarkers that leaders signal.[09:01 – 13:00] The Three Pillars: Warmth, Competence, GravitasWhy warmth builds trust and connection.Competence as expertise and credibility.Gravitas defined as “feet on the ground, wings ready to take flight.”[13:01 – 18:00] Turning Biomarkers into ActionUsing diagnostics and feedback to identify signal gaps.Why “narrating your thinking” helps others see your competence.Translating thought processes into presence that others can perceive.[18:01 – 22:00] Leading with Warmth and Co-CreationHow leaders influence team neurochemistry with cortisol or oxytocin.A proven sequence: warmth → competence → gravitas.Design thinking parallels: inviting others into co-creation.[22:01 – 25:00] Storytelling and the Power of Origin StoriesWhy scientists and engineers often need more warmth.A young innovator's water purification story that unlocked funding.How adding human context amplifies technical competence.[25:01 – 27:00] What's Next for Biohacking LeadershipThe three-book series: Biohacking Leadership, Biohacking Teams, and Biohacking Organizations.Where to connect with Scott and explore his work.Key Quotes:“Executive presence isn't about how you dress—it's about the signals you send through warmth, competence, and gravitas.” – Scott Hutcheson“No one can see how you think. The only way they know is through your presence.” – Scott Hutcheson“Co-creation creates the IKEA effect—people value what they helped build.” – Scott HutchesonConnect with Scott HutchesonWebsite: scotthutcheson.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/scotthutchesonBook: Biohacking Leadership (available now from Wiley and major retailers)LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone lead with clarity and courage by sharing this episode, or click here to catch up on past episodes.
Finding Your Voice: Leading with Courage and Conviction In this empowering episode of Thrive Today, host Natalie Born sits down with Tinsley English—SVP of Business Insurance Operations, keynote speaker, best-selling author, and founder of the G-Force Code System. Tinsley opens up about her personal journey of silencing, healing, and ultimately reclaiming her voice. Together, they explore what it takes to show up authentically in leadership, dismantle internalized narratives, and lead with clarity, confidence, and conviction. This is a conversation for every woman ready to step into her power and live her purpose. [00:01 - 07:25] From Silence to Significance - Tinsley's early struggles with people-pleasing and perfectionism - The internal war between external success and internal insecurity - How finding your voice is tied to owning your truth [07:26 - 13:50] Rewriting the Narrative - Unlearning the belief that good leadership means silence - Moving from external validation to internal clarity - The role of emotional healing in discovering your leadership voice [13:51 - 19:42] Confidence That's Not Conditional - Why competence is not the same as confidence - Learning to lead from identity, not performance - The power of grit, growth, and gumption in bold leadership [19:43 - 26:10] Practical Tools to Reclaim Your Voice - Strategies from the G-Force Code to build confidence and clarity - Using journaling and silence as leadership disciplines - How to mentor others while still evolving yourself [26:11 - 31:29] Becoming a Voice for Others - The ripple effect of finding and using your voice - Encouraging women to speak from identity, not fear - Why your story matters more than you think Quotes: “You don't have to earn your voice. You were born with it.” – Tinsley English “Confidence isn't the absence of fear—it's the presence of truth.” – Tinsley English “When you use your voice, you give others permission to find theirs.” – Tinsley English About Tinsley English: Tinsley English is an SVP, Regional Business Insurance Operations Leader, a recognized expert in female leadership development, a dynamic keynote speaker, and a best-selling author renowned for her transformative G-Force Code System. She was a founding member of the Southeast GROW Chapter (Growing Relationships and Opportunities for Women) and serves on the Enterprise Grow Chapter for National Marsh McLennan Agency. With over a decade devoted to coaching high-performing women, her direct approach enables her to swiftly identify obstacles and unveil hidden strengths, fostering authentic leadership through grit, growth, and gumption. Tinsley is on a mission to reach one million women by 2026 with this message, helping them grow in confidence, clarity, and sense of purpose. Connect with Tinsley: Website:https://gritgrowthgumption.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinsleyenglish/ Follow Thrive Today: Instagram: @thrivetodaywomen Website: thrivetoday.com Loved this episode? Subscribe and leave us a 5-STAR review to help more women reclaim their voice and lead with confidence.
What Happens When Pressure Builds—and You Don't Even Know It? In this episode, Natalie Born sits down with Ryan Dunlap, conflict strategist, former hostage negotiator, and author of How to Untie a Balloon: A Negotiator's Guide to Avoid Popping Under Pressure. Ryan brings real-life strategies from both interrogation rooms and executive coaching sessions, helping leaders recognize how pressure impacts their behavior and decision-making.Through powerful metaphors—like the overinflated balloon—and practical frameworks such as FIRST and STOP, Ryan offers a roadmap for decompressing emotionally, resolving deep-seated conflict, and returning to leadership with clarity and strength. If you're leading while stressed, burned out, or in constant response mode, this episode is a must-listen.[00:01 - 04:16] The Balloon Metaphor and Hidden PressureWhy law enforcement prepared Ryan less for pressure than pastoring did.How a balloon exercise revealed the emotional buildup leaders carry.The surprising connection between suspects and CEOs under pressure.[04:17 - 08:00] The FIRST FrameworkFeelings, Interests, Relationships, Situations, and Toll—breaking down complex issues into manageable parts.Why most leaders try to solve everything at once—and how that backfires.How FIRST builds sustainable emotional progress through small wins.[08:01 - 12:00] Resilience, Conflict, and the Grudge TrapStats on how long we hold grudges—and the hidden cost.Why strategy and resources don't matter when we're emotionally depleted.The critical need to “suffer well” and build a healthier foundation before scaling.[12:01 - 16:00] Identifying Internal Pressure Before You ExplodeHow to self-audit your automatic responses to stress.The difference between seeking relief and pursuing resolution.Recognizing that what you normalize might actually be a high-pressure state.[16:01 - 20:59] Reclaiming Your BaselineUnderstanding the hedonic treadmill and the identity toll of constant pressure.The STOP model: Space, Time, Opportunity, Perspective.A powerful question: “Who were you before the world hurt you?”[21:00 - 26:00] Sabbaticals, Rest, and Redefining ProductivityWhy many leaders are running unsustainable lives—and don't know it.The paradox of rest: You're more productive when you pause.Choosing the right kind of consequences: business strain vs. personal collapse.[26:01 - 28:00] Daily Tips, Deeper Coaching & the Conflict-ish CommunityWhere to find Ryan's 90-second daily videos.How to get your copy of How to Untie a Balloon.A look at Ryan's upcoming academy for personal and professional transformation.Quotes:“Pressure causes us to lean into relief instead of resolution.” – Ryan Dunlap“If you don't stop working, something bad is going to happen anyway. You have to choose—do you want the business to suffer or your family?” – Ryan Dunlap“Who were you before the world hurt you?” – Ryan DunlapConnect with Ryan:Website: https://www.conflictish.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanmdunlapSocial (TikTok, IG, YouTube): @conflictishBook: How to Untie a Balloon (Available wherever books are sold)Want More?LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone lead with clarity and courage under pressure by sharing this episode or click here to catch up on past episodes.
The Hidden Cost of Hustle: Why Emotionally Healthy Leaders Win In this powerful episode of Thrive Today, host Natalie Born sits down with Simi John—author, speaker, and pastor—to unpack the often-overlooked emotional and spiritual layers of leadership. Together, they explore the link between burnout and boundaries, empathy and empowerment, and what it really looks like to lead from a place of emotional clarity and self-awareness. This candid conversation blends scripture, psychology, and practical wisdom to help women show up for themselves, their families, and their leadership callings with strength and perspective. [00:01 - 05:36] Simi's Journey into Ministry and Mental Health - Growing up in a collectivist culture and navigating identity - The stigma around mental health in faith spaces - Why emotional health is not optional for spiritual leaders [05:37 - 11:04] The Cost of Compassion Without Boundaries - Empathy vs. emotional enmeshment - Why leaders must know where they end and others begin - The power of regulated emotions for effective ministry [11:05 - 17:18] Leading from a Whole, Not Hurting, Heart - How generational trauma impacts leadership - Surrendering outcomes as an act of spiritual discipline - Distinguishing people-pleasing from godly service [17:19 - 22:40] Preventing Burnout by Practicing Wisdom - Warning signs of emotional burnout - Why over-functioning is not the same as faithfulness - Creating space to hear God again [22:41 - 28:50] Rhythms for Rest and Recovery - Simi's personal practices for preventing burnout - Balancing calling and capacity - Letting God fill the gaps you cannot Quotes: “If I don't steward my emotions, my emotions will steward me.” – Simi John “Empathy is not taking on someone else's pain; it's recognizing it, honoring it, and leading with clarity.” – Simi John Connect with Simi: Website: simijohn.tv Instagram: @simijohn Follow Thrive Today: Instagram: @thrivetodaywomen Website: thrivetoday.com Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe and leave us a 5-STAR review to help others find Thrive Today!
What happens to marketing when AI becomes not just a tool, but a partner?In this episode, Natalie Born speaks with Nick Jain, founder of Content Hurricane and former CEO of IdeaScale. Nick shares insights from building a scalable AI-powered content marketing platform, diving into how AI is reshaping marketing departments, team structures, and creativity itself. He unpacks the transition from manual content creation to automated, expert-level blog generation—and what that means for businesses trying to stay relevant in a fast-changing digital world. Whether you're a marketer feeling overwhelmed by AI or a business leader wondering where to begin, this episode lays out clear, actionable ideas for navigating the shift.[00:01 - 04:16] From Scaling to StartingHow Nick's background in growing companies to $100M+ informed his new venture.Why simplicity and usability are at the core of Content Hurricane's tools.The significance of managing complexity in large teams and tech stacks.[04:17 - 08:46] AI and the Restructuring of Marketing RolesWhat makes AI different from traditional tools.How AI shifts the focus from production to orchestration.The importance of giving AI a defined purpose.[08:47 - 12:29] The Creativity ParadoxWhy AI doesn't kill creativity—it redistributes it.How people without artistic skill can now create at a high level.The significance of democratizing creativity with AI.[12:30 - 16:53] Building AI-Powered Content EnginesWhy Content Hurricane focuses on expert-level, not generic content.How inbound leads and evergreen marketing outperform paid ads.The importance of simplicity for both junior and senior users.[16:54 - 24:21] The Future of Marketing DepartmentsWhy creating content may no longer be a marketing team's job.What new roles—like AI architects and performance analysts—are emerging.The need for upskilling and continual learning in AI-driven work.Quotes:“AI doesn't need your talent—it needs your direction.” - Nick Jain“Once you understand AI is not a tool, but a partner, your role changes completely.” - Nick JainConnect with Nick:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmjainLEAVE A REVIEW + help someone empower their businesses through collaboration, innovation, and transformation by sharing this episode or clicking here to listen to our previous episodes.Check Natalie's new book, SET IT ON FIRE: The Art of Innovation, available now at setitonfire.coThese are proven solutions to advance your leadership and innovation process. Check out our website innovationmeetsleadership.com, or connect with me on Linkedin, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Youtube.Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review. Let's go transform something!
Are leaders losing trust, not because of poor strategy, but because they've misunderstood what empathy requires? In this special episode, Colleen Rouse interviews Thrive Today co-founder and media host Natalie Born to explore the real meaning and practice of empathetic leadership. They break down what empathy is not, why it's often confused with weakness, and how it can be the difference between retaining or losing top talent. With a mix of personal stories, generational insights, and scriptural grounding, this conversation guides leaders toward practical tools for connection, feedback, and growth across every age group in today's workforce. [00:01 - 05:16] Rethinking the “Coaching Call” ● Why the Thrive Today coaching model creates space for safety and vulnerability ● The importance of merging scripture with life application ● The significance of interactive growth through community dialogue [05:17 - 10:57] What Empathy Is—and Isn't ● Why empathy differs from sympathy, agreement, or weakness ● How one leader helped Natalie grow by challenging her thinking ● The importance of giving others ownership of their development [10:58 - 15:39] Understanding the Empathy Gap ● Why most employees and customers feel a lack of empathy ● The impact of neglecting personal connection in the workplace ● Real-world examples of how leaders miss key moments to connect [15:40 - 20:46] Generational Empathy in Leadership ● Distinctions in how Millennials, Gen Z, Gen X, and Boomers want to be led ● How communication preferences can build or break trust ● Why feedback style must be personalized [20:47 - 23:31] Building a Legacy Through Empathy ● How empathy affects retention, loyalty, and long-term influence ● Why feedback delivery needs to fit individual preferences ● What kind of leadership legacy you're leaving behind Quotes: “Empathy isn't agreement. It's not weakness. It's perspective-taking.” - Natalie Born “Your leadership legacy is being written every day, whether you're aware of it or not.” - Natalie Born Connect with Colleen: Website: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colleenrouse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cwrouse/?hl=en Follow Thrive Today on Instagram (@thrivetodaywomen) and visit our website at Thrive Today. Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 5-STAR Review!
What if the grief you've tucked away is the very place where healing, purpose, and restoration are waiting to meet you? In this deeply personal conversation, Natalie Born sits down with author and speaker Tara Nicole Dorsey to talk about grief, healing, and the faith journey that followed the stillbirth of her daughter Phoebe. Tara shares how journaling became her tool for healing, leading to the creation of her book Blessed to Bear Fruit: Devotions for the Mom in Waiting. With honesty and hope, she unpacks the emotional and spiritual challenges of loss, the layered grief couples experience, and how God used her pain to reach and support other women. [00:01 - 05:15] — When Grief Births Purpose - How writing became Tara's way to process deep trauma - Why her daughter's stillbirth led to the creation of a devotional journal - The importance of acknowledging pain rather than ignoring it [05:16 - 11:34] — Restoration Through Motherhood - The significance of honoring both the pain and the promise - Why healing can take years and still be valid - How couples grieve differently and what that means for support [11:35 - 17:57] — Showing Up When It's Hard - How grief impacts professional identity and energy levels - The importance of having a trusted confidant at work - Why vulnerability doesn't weaken leadership—it strengthens it [17:58 - 22:00] — Asking for Help and Taking Rest - The need for personal and professional support systems - What “three days of rest” can look like in the middle of grief - Why naming the grief and giving it language is powerful [22:01 - 27:50] — From Waiting to Legacy - The spiritual meaning behind Tara's daughter's name, Phoebe - The importance of telling your story—even years later - Why obedience to God's timing often opens unexpected doors Key Quotes: “This is an opportunity for me to show up as my true, authentic self.” - Tara Nicole Dorsey “The Tara in 2017 couldn't hold space for the women I'm now speaking to today.” - Tara Nicole Dorsey Connect with Tara: Website: https://taranicoledorsey.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taranicoledorsey/?hl=en Follow Thrive Today on Instagram (@thrivetodaywomen) and visit our website at Thrive Today.
How can you remove emotion from investing — and make decisions backed purely by data?In this episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, Natalie Born sits down with Andrew Einhorn, CEO and Co-founder of Level Fields, an AI-driven fintech platform that analyzes real-world events to uncover investment opportunities. With a career that began in epidemiology and transitioned into defense consulting and software, Andrew shares how his fascination with data and pattern recognition led him to create tools that help everyday investors make informed decisions. He discusses how global events shape financial markets, how to identify reliable investment signals, and why emotional detachment—paired with the right data—can lead to better results.[00:01 - 05:00] | How an Epidemiologist Built a Fintech ToolHow studying environmental contamination led to software developmentThe importance of following data rather than gut feelingsWhy building software unlocked a creative and scalable way to solve problems[05:01 - 10:49] | Why Past Pandemics Helped Predict the COVID ReboundThe importance of recognizing patterns in government and market responsesHow comparing Zika and swine flu informed COVID analysisWhy emotion-free analysis led to accurate predictions while others panicked[10:50 - 15:34] | How AI Detects Market-Moving EventsThe importance of CEO changes, lawsuits, and product failures as stock indicatorsHow AI tools reduce noise and increase clarity for investorsWhy consistent events provide more reliable signals than black swan moments[15:35 - 21:16] | The Importance of Ignoring Headlines and Watching BehaviorWhy dividend increases and stock buybacks signal strengthThe importance of ignoring negative media narratives in favor of dataHow analyzing company behavior reveals internal confidence long before analysts notice[21:17 - 26:04] | How to Invest Like an Insider Without Being OneHow billionaires entering a company often triggers a turnaroundThe importance of watching early moves like executive changes and layoffsWhy Salesforce's rebound shows the power of understanding corporate playbooksQuotes:“The market reacts to events, not opinions. Patterns repeat if you know where to look.” — Andrew Einhorn“The same events happen again and again—and the market reacts the same way. The data proves it.” - Andrew EinhornConnect with Andrew:LinkeIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/einhornLEAVE A REVIEW + help someone empower their businesses through collaboration, innovation, and transformation by sharing this episode or clicking here to listen to our previous episodes.Check Natalie's new book, SET IT ON FIRE: The Art of Innovation, available now at setitonfire.coThese are proven solutions to advance your leadership and innovation process. Check out our website innovationmeetsleadership.com, or connect with me on Linkedin, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Youtube.Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review. Let's go transform something!
In this powerful episode of the Thrive Today podcast, host Natalie Born sits down with Jordan Loftis, founder and CEO of Story Chorus and author of "Unleash Your Authentic Voice." They explore the painful reality of betrayal in leadership and how to navigate it without becoming cynical or closed off. Through personal stories and biblical wisdom, they reveal how betrayal can become a catalyst for growth rather than a reason to build walls. This conversation offers practical insights for leaders who have experienced betrayal and are seeking to move forward with wisdom and an open heart. [00:01 - 05:17] The Universal Experience of Betrayal - Betrayal appears to be an unavoidable aspect of leadership across business and ministry - Leaders who integrate faith and business often experience similarly deep pain when betrayed - The depth of pain often correlates with the depth of investment in the relationship [05:18 - 10:37] Stories from the Trenches: Overcoming Betrayal - Investing in an employee's dreams only to be repaid with lies and exploitation - Despite the betrayal, they maintained integrity by refusing to launch a counter-offensive - The community supports and prays for their betrayers' blessing [10:38 - 15:06] The Danger of Self-Protection - Unaddressed betrayal can lead to building walls that not only keep others out but God as well - The stories we tell ourselves about betrayal often cause more harm than the event itself - Leaders often blame themselves with thoughts like "If I was better, this wouldn't have happened" [15:07 - 22:00] Guarding Your Heart Without Closing It - Betrayal hurts most when it comes from people you've invested in deeply - The goal shouldn't be to never feel pain again, but to continue fulfilling your purpose despite pain - Surrounding yourself with the right people during betrayal is crucial for healthy processing [22:01 - 27:53] Finding Redemption in Betrayal - God can use betrayal situations for spiritual formation when we surrender control - Betrayal often reveals what's truly in our hearts, like sediment in a cup when it's bumped - The experience can lead to wisdom without cynicism Key Quotes: "If our God could take the worst thing that has ever happened in human history, which is the murder of Jesus, his son... and win the greatest victory in the history of the universe, then what can he do with our situation?" - Jordan Loftis "You can't poison the well without poisoning all the water." - Jordan Loftis Connect with Jordan: Website: https://swift.storychorus.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanloftis Follow Thrive Today on Instagram (@thrivetodaywomen) and visit our website at Thrive Today. Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 5-STAR Review!
What happens when AI fills 90% of the Internet with junk? The rise of AI-generated content is transforming the digital landscape—but at what cost? Mike Todasco, AI researcher and former Head of Innovation at PayPal, joins Natalie Born to discuss the impact of "AI slop"—a flood of low-quality, auto-generated content—and what it means for businesses, content creators, and consumers. He explores how AI is being used to create books, blog posts, and even fake news at an unprecedented scale. Will AI-generated junk take over, or will human creativity remain indispensable? Tune in to uncover how AI is reshaping everything from online search to personal productivity.[00:01 - 06:07] The Evolution of AI & InnovationMike Todasco shares his journey from finance to AI researchHis experience running innovation at PayPal after its split from eBayHow AI became his focus at San Diego State University's AI Center[06:08 - 12:48] The Rise of "AI Slop"AI-generated content is flooding the internet with low-quality materialMany AI-generated books on Amazon are essentially unreadableGartner predicts 90% of internet content could be AI-generated by 2030[12:49 - 16:33] Human vs. AI: What Will Win?AI-generated content lacks emotional depth and true storytellingPeople are drawn to human-made art and stories over machine-made creations.AI tools will enhance, not replace, human creativity.[16:34 - 24:00] AI in Daily Life: Helpful or Harmful?Mike uses AI for personal productivity, parenting, and even healthcareAI can analyze health data, suggest parenting strategies, and help with cookingThe future of AI in healthcare will see doctors using AI as an essential tool[24:01 - 36:16] How Businesses Should Be Using AI Right NowCompanies must set clear AI policies as employees are already using itAI should be integrated into workflows to improve efficiencyOrganizations should foster knowledge-sharing around AI use casesQuotes:"AI is great at generating content, but it still struggles to create anything with true heart and experience.” - Mike Todasco"AI slop is just junk being thrown onto the internet—words without purpose or artistry." - Mike TodascoConnect with Mike:LinkeIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/todasco/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikesaideas/LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone empower their businesses through collaboration, innovation, and transformation by sharing this episode or clicking here to listen to our previous episodes.Check Natalie's new book, SET IT ON FIRE: The Art of Innovation, available now at setitonfire.coThese are proven solutions to advance your leadership and innovation process. Check out our website innovationmeetsleadership.com, or connect with me on Linkedin, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Youtube.Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review. Let's go transform something!
Leadership requires more than just a vision—it takes the courage to confront limiting beliefs, embrace vulnerability, and empower your team. On this episode of the AVAIL Podcast, we sit down with Natalie Born, author of Set It On Fire and a passionate advocate for organizational transformation. Natalie dives deep into the importance of breaking free from the lies that hold us back, cultivating meaningful values, and rising above the storms of uncertainty. From her personal journey through challenges to practical advice for galvanizing teams, this episode is packed with wisdom to help leaders step into their calling with boldness and clarity.
What does it take to lead innovation at one of America's fastest-growing dessert brands, rotating an entirely new menu weekly across 1,200+ locations? In this illuminating episode of Innovation Meets Leadership, host Natalie Born sits down with Grace Chadwick, COO of Crumbl. Grace shares her fascinating journey from technology consulting to leading major food industry brands, ultimately landing at the helm of Crumbl. She reveals the complex operational challenges behind Crumbl's weekly rotating menu, the role of technology in scaling innovation, and how the company's mission to bring friends and family together drives every decision. The conversation offers valuable insights into balancing rapid innovation with operational excellence while maintaining a culture that thrives on constant change. [00:01 - 5:00] From Tech to Treats: An Unexpected Journey Transitioned from technology consulting to food industry through Burger King Found passion in seeing entire business cycle play out in single day Embraced continuous learning and new challenges [05:01 - 10:26] The Art of Weekly Innovation at Scale Manages rotating menu across 1,200+ locations weekly Implements precise training systems for consistent execution Balances innovation with operational complexity [10:27 - 15:45] Technology as the Innovation Backbone Built proprietary POS system from ground up Leverages tech for seamless menu rotation and training Applies AB testing principles to product development [15:46 - 21:17] Evolution Beyond Cookies Expanding from Crumbl Cookies to simply "Crumbl" Partnering with celebrities like Jimmy Fallon Focusing on creating meaningful moments for customers [21:18 - 27:50] Leadership in a Fast-Paced Innovation Culture Cultivating adaptable team members who thrive on change Balancing relationships with results Emphasizing action as the key to innovation Quotes: "It's all about the people that you have and the actions that you take every day to ensure that your people know how much you care about them." - Grace Chadwick "With innovation, you won't know anything until you try. It is all about the action..." - Grace Chadwick Connect with Grace: Website: https://crumblcookies.com/index.html LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracielachadwick LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone empower their businesses through collaboration, innovation, and transformation by sharing this episode or clicking here to listen to our previous episodes. Check Natalie's new book, SET IT ON FIRE: The Art of Innovation, available now at setitonfire.co These are proven solutions to advance your leadership and innovation process. Check out our website innovationmeetsleadership.com, or connect with me on Linkedin, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Youtube. Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review. Let's go transform something!
How can businesses prepare for an AI-driven future without losing the human touch? In this insightful episode, Natalie Born sits down with Krystal Parker, a former Fortune 200 executive and award-winning author of The Best Robot Wins. Krystal shares her remarkable journey from a small-town college dropout to a leader in the oil and gas industry, and now as a prominent figure in business consulting. They explore the evolving role of AI, balancing people and processes, and why adaptability is crucial for longevity. From sharing leadership lessons to discussing the future impact of AI on the workforce, Krystal's insights challenge businesses to innovate while maintaining a culture that values people. [00:01 - 06:29] From Temp to Executive: Krystal's Journey Embrace the opportunities right in front of you Persistence and asking for growth lead to unexpected career advances Career shifts can open doors to leadership in unexpected ways [06:29 - 12:19] Writing "The Best Robot Wins" Effective leadership is a balance of people, processes, and systems Krystal emphasizes the importance of structure for efficient management The book's message is even more relevant in today's AI-driven landscape [12:20 - 18:31] The Balance of People and Processes Overemphasis on either people or processes can hurt a company Aligning analytics and human elements creates a sustainable environment AI can aid, but not replace, the human touch in business operations [18:32 - 24:50] AI's Impact on Jobs and Customer Service AI is transforming industries, but human interaction remains essential Reskilling and upskilling employees are vital for long-term success Businesses need to adopt AI while fostering human engagement [24:51 - 29:31] Practical Steps for Companies and Individuals Companies should explore AI tools specific to their industry Identifying employees' hidden skills can optimize productivity Individuals must stay proactive in learning to adapt to industry changes Quotes: “When people are in their right spots, working in their passion, innovation thrives.” - Krystal Parker "Personality is the first line of diversity in a company." - Krystal Parker Connect with Krystal: Website: https://intentandimpact.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krystal-parker-mba-65962475/ LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone empower their businesses through collaboration, innovation, and transformation by sharing this episode or clicking here to listen to our previous episodes. Check Natalie's new book, SET IT ON FIRE: The Art of Innovation, available now at setitonfire.co These are proven solutions to advance your leadership and innovation process. Check out our website innovationmeetsleadership.com, or connect with me on Linkedin, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Youtube. Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review. Let's go transform something! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/natalie-born/support
What does it take to not only launch a product on Amazon but to actually protect and scale it in the ever-changing e-commerce world? In this episode, Natalie Born interviews Amazon expert Shannon Roddy. Shannon shares his journey from learning web design to becoming a trusted authority on Amazon brand success. He dives into the critical aspects of launching innovative products, creating demand, and defending against copycats. He highlights the importance of building a defensible brand and how to leverage influencers and video for impactful product launches. From launching his own marketplace seller course to being acquired by Avenue7Media, Shannon offers valuable insights on navigating the complexities of Amazon and succeeding in e-commerce. [00:01 - 06:49] A Journey from Web Design to Amazon Expertise Shannon's transition from web design to Amazon consulting The challenges of learning Amazon from scratch and building an online course The key to becoming an educator and explaining complex concepts clearly [06:50 - 12:27] Creating Demand Before Supply The importance of creating demand before launching a product Strategies for testing products with smaller audiences before going live on Amazon How customer feedback shapes product iterations [12:28 - 16:53] Protecting Your Brand from Copycats The rise of copycat products on Amazon How to build a defensible brand and product The role of patents, manufacturing barriers, and regulatory compliance in product protection [16:54 - 24:28] The Power of Branding and Customer Trust Building emotional connections with customers to foster brand loyalty Why people prefer brands they trust, even when cheaper alternatives exist The story of how brands became successful through innovation and customer insight [24:29 - 29:36] Influencers, Video, and Innovative Product Launches Leveraging video content and influencers to promote innovative products How influencers help reach target audiences and build trust in new brands The viral success of the Wisp product, driven by video marketing and influencers Quotes: “The best thing you can do is build brand equity and awareness. People have to love, know, and trust your brand.” - Shannon Roddy "You can't find the search volume for a product that doesn't exist; you have to create demand before you create supply." - Shannon Roddy Connect with Shannon: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannon-roddy/ Website: https://avenue7media.com/ LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone empower their businesses through collaboration, innovation, and transformation by sharing this episode or clicking here to listen to our previous episodes. Check Natalie's new book, SET IT ON FIRE: The Art of Innovation, available now at setitonfire.co These are proven solutions to advance your leadership and innovation process. Check out our website innovationmeetsleadership.com, or connect with me on Linkedin, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Youtube. Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review. Let's go transform something! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/natalie-born/support