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Today we're taking you to South Western Colorado to spend three days exploring Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park!Download our Itinerary to follow our same route in Black Canyon of the Gunnison National ParkIt is one of Colorado's four National Parks and is Colorado's least visited national park. It is in western Colorado, not far from the Utah Border. The Canyon is a deep, steep-walled gorge carved through Precambrian rock by the Gunnison River. There are two main sections of the park, the more remote North Rim and the more popular South Rim, both have views of the canyon's dramatic drops and the striated Painted Wall cliff. There is another section called East Portal, which is a steep road that descends to the river. The park was named for its cliffs that are often darkened by shadows, making the walls appear black. The canyon itself is so vertical that the Gunnison River drops an average of 43 feet per mile, and 240 feet per mile at its steepest point at Chasm View, making some of the steepest mountain descents in North America.Episode Highlights: Tips for visiting Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park Best hikes and view points on the North RimBest hikes and view points on the South RimDriving down the East Portal Where to stay in Crawford (The Hitching Post Hotel and Farm Store or The Stone House Inn)Where to stay in Montrose (The Rathbone Hotel or Fairfield by Marriott) Items to pack: reusable utensils, tripod, and mini travel umbrella When is the best time to visit Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park?This national park is best seen from May- September. During the winter the north rim shuts down completely and the south rim is only open to the visitor center.If you are going to visit this park, you'll also want to visit Mesa Verde National Park. Listen to our episode for details before you go!Find a great flight deal to Black Canyon, or anywhere else, by signing up for Thrifty Traveler Premium and get flight deals sent straight to your inbox. Use our promo code TSP to get $20 off your first year subscription!----------------------------------------------------------------Shop: Trip Itineraries & Amazon Storefront Connect: YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram and contact us at travelsquadpodcast@gmail.com to submit a question of the week or inquire about guest interviews and advertising. Submit a question of the week or inquire about guest interviews and advertising.
The PU boys have returned from their many travels, ready to regale their loyal listeners with tales of Vrbo Palestine, cotty scams, never buy insurance, Greek weed, Hitler's personal sauerkraut, the Joey Chestnut record, Major League Eating rankings, Squirt from a yard glass, Badlands Chug's service dog, YouTube housing market, alligator sized incinerators, explore page ai slop, Billy Joel's coma, being mean to celebrities, the Instagram activity tab, Post Unavailable flotilla, Ai podcast remake, Spotify robot artists, being primatistic, feeding seagulls pennies, monkey package delivery, baboon lock down, the big mammal, Martin Cabello III, the Sonichu omnibus, funniest Chris Chan moments, evil Roblox games, first theatre movie, pointing and grunting at Tim Horton's, drive thru pizza, Wendy's regulations, Gregg's pizza, London steadies on, Texan islands, anti-racist merch, and Pre-Cambrian ambient music. These will be passed down for generations to come.
Send us a textTyler Chilabecki's love affair with the Saskatchewan wilderness began with a fishing rod in his hand at just three years old. Now, as the creator behind the YouTube channel Puddle Jumper, he's on a mission to shatter stereotypes about his home province one paddle stroke at a time."Everyone thinks of Saskatchewan as flat prairies and wheat," Tyler explains with the weariness of someone who's heard it once too often. "But half our province is boreal forest and Canadian Shield." This northern wilderness forms the backdrop for his solo paddling adventures, which range from weekend trips to epic three-week journeys through some of Canada's most untouched waterways.What makes Saskatchewan's backcountry uniquely appealing is the profound solitude it offers. While popular parks like Algonquin might have portage trails "like superhighways" with paddlers carrying coolers and boxes of wine, Tyler describes paddling for 12 days in Northern Saskatchewan without seeing another soul. Even in the province's "busier" paddling areas around Missinipi on the Churchill River, traffic is minimal compared to other Canadian paddling destinations.The geological diversity adds another layer of fascination. In the "Pelican Window" area, paddlers can find three-billion-year-old Precambrian rock formations that create dramatic landscapes unlike anything you'd expect from Saskatchewan. Tyler's eyes light up describing the Athabasca Sand Dunes, Hunt Falls (the province's largest waterfall), and ancient pictographs along historic voyageur routes that connect the province's vast network of lakes and rivers.For those inspired to explore Saskatchewan's hidden waterways, Tyler recommends connecting with local outfitters and using resources like GoTrekker maps. Many routes remain undocumented, requiring paddlers to study satellite imagery and topographic maps – adding an element of genuine exploration to each trip. As Tyler puts it: "There's so much to explore here and so much that's undocumented. That's where I keep my focus – trying to document these different routes that no one really knows about."Ready for a paddling adventure that defies expectations? Follow Tyler's journeys on the Puddle Jumper YouTube channel and discover the Saskatchewan that tourists never see.https://www.youtube.com/@puddlejumper-skSupport the showCONNECT WITH US AT SUPER GOOD CAMPING:Support the podcast & buy super cool SWAG: https://store.skgroupinc.com/super_good_camping/shop/homeEMAIL: hi@supergoodcamping.comWEBSITE: www.supergoodcamping.comYOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqFDJbFJyJ5Y-NHhFseENsQINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/super_good_camping/TWITTER: https://twitter.com/SuperGoodCampinFACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuperGoodCamping/TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@supergoodcamping Support the show
If we did not evolve from apes, then where did we come from? Human Devolution is Michael Cremo's definitive answer to this question. In his characteristic style of meticulous documentation and research, Cremo offers a fresh and scientifically based perspective on human origins, with an emphasis on state-of-the-art consciousness studies. Take a fascinating tour through incredible enigmas of time and space, ranging from Precambrian microfossils to black holes to the planets of demigods, and discover how we devolved from pure consciousness to this earthly realm.Michael A Cremo is a research associate of the Bhaktivedanta Institute specializing in the history and philosophy of science. His persistent investigations during the eight years of writing Forbidden Archeology documented a major scientific cover-up. Richard L. Thompson, founding member of the Bhaktivedanta Institute, received his Ph.D. in mathematics form Cornell University.https://www.mcremo.com/Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/earth-ancients--2790919/support.
HeLIX Exploration PLC CEO Bo Sears takes Proactive's through initial drilling results from the ongoing campaign at the Ingomar Dome project in Montana's Helium Fairway. Sears shared the company's excitement about the recent mud log results, which show some of the highest helium readings he has encountered in his career. With concentrations reaching up to 673 parts per million, these results are 130 times above the background level, confirming the presence of a significant helium system. Sears emphasised that helium shows are present in both the Amsden and Charles formations, with drilling now targeting the Flathead and Precambrian basement rocks. He also noted the increasing helium concentration with depth, particularly in the Flathead Formation, which is a primary target. As the drilling progresses, Helix is eager to explore these promising findings further, and the company expects to reach the next target formation within the next few days. The results so far have validated their expectations of discovering a productive helium system. Visit Proactive's YouTube channel for more updates on HeLIX Exploration PLC and other insights from industry leaders. Don't forget to like the video, subscribe to the channel, and enable notifications for future content. #HeliumExploration #HeliumDrilling #MontanaHelium #IngomarDome #BoSears #HeLIXExploration #EnergyResources #NaturalGasExploration #ProactiveInvestors #ProactiveInvestors #invest #investing #investment #investor #stockmarket #stocks #stock #stockmarketnews
Varying creationist perspectives on the Precambrian.
How do young earth creationists interpret the Precambrian?
What did old earth geologists get wrong about the Precambrian?
What do Old Earth Geologists believe happened during the Precambrian?
What sort of rocks can be found in the Precambrian layers?
What secrets do the rock layers of the Precambrian hold?
Nate Loper speaks about the story of creation through the lens of science and the Bible. PT. 1 - FLOOD GEOLOGY – 3 Rock-Solid Evidences for a Global Flood as seen at the Grand Canyon: • Great Unconformity - A massive erosional boundary from fast-moving water seen between the Pre-Cambrian rocks and the Cambrian Tapeats Sandstone. The Great Unconformity is seen around the world. • Cambrian Explosion - An “explosion” within the rock record where fossils are found suddenly and seen around the world beginning at the same strata position. A mystery of evolutionary biology explained by the onset of the Flood, containing creatures buried by the worldwide catastrophe. The “Cambrian Explosion of Life” coincides with the same “explosion of erosion” seen in the Great Unconformity. • Extent of Sedimentary Layers - Examples include the Tapeats Sandstone and its global equivalent. Material carried by fast-moving water across multiple continents at the same time. Pt. 2 - SPACE AND ASTRONOMY: • The Flatness Problem – The universe appears to be expanding at a perfect rate. Too much expansion and the universe flies apart. Too little expansion and the universe contracts on itself. • Spiral Galaxies – Spiral galaxies rotate differently yet show clear spiral arms. If billions of years were to have occurred, the galaxies should have spun themselves into disks, with no spiral arms visible. • Recession of the Moon – The moon is moving away from the earth about 1.5 inches at present. At calculated rates, the earth and moon should have been touching only 1.5 billion years ago. Pt. 3 - HUMAN BIOLOGY: • Fingerprints - Showcase uniqueness and the beauty of individuality. • Human Eye - A design of incredible complexity. • Blood Vessels - We have 60,000 miles of blood vessels running through our bodies, organized by design. • Human Body - The beauty of our bodies showcase the creative power of God and the value He sees in us.
The Beast from the Beginning of Time (1965) is a story we've seen many times: archaeologists find a caveman who wakes up and kills everyone. It doesn't have the camp of Trog, or the star power of Horror Express, or the quotable lines of The Neanderthal Man, or the catchy surf-rock tunes of Eegah, or the budget of Neander-Jin… Well, enjoy the episode. Win some SotSA Merch! Send your mistakes, inaccuracies, and corrections to us by email or social media: Twitter: @SotSA_Podcast Bluesky: @sotsapodcast.bsky.social Facebook: @SotSAPodcast Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/sotsa/ Email: screensofthestoneage@gmail.com In this episode: Watch The Beast from the Beginning of Time on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtboADRTuw Liquid scintillation counting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdFWcJFMUlI Rigor mortis: https://www.thoughtco.com/what-causes-rigor-mortis-601995 Lichtenberg figures (Lightning fern burns): https://www.glenallenweather.com/alink/20thunder/Lichtenberg%20Figures.pdf Thagomizer: https://www.amusingplanet.com/2020/07/thagomizer-why-stegosaurus-spiky-tail.html Learn more about archaeological giants on Digging Up Ancient Aliens: https://diggingupancientaliens.com/episode-55-giants.html The Myth of the Moundbuilders: https://www.thoughtco.com/moundbuilder-myth-history-and-death-171536 J.B.S. Haldane's “Precambrian rabbits”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precambrian_rabbit
The Beast from the Beginning of Time (1965) is a story we've seen many times: archaeologists find a caveman who wakes up and kills everyone. It doesn't have the camp of Trog, or the star power of Horror Express, or the quotable lines of The Neanderthal Man, or the catchy surf-rock tunes of Eegah, or the budget of Neander-Jin... Well, enjoy the episode. Win some SotSA Merch! Send your mistakes, inaccuracies, and corrections to us by email or social media:Twitter: @SotSA_Podcast Bluesky: @sotsapodcast.bsky.socialFacebook: @SotSAPodcastLetterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/sotsa/ Email: screensofthestoneage@gmail.com In this episode:Watch The Beast from the Beginning of Time on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtboADRTuwLiquid scintillation counting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdFWcJFMUlI Rigor mortis: https://www.thoughtco.com/what-causes-rigor-mortis-601995 Lichtenberg figures (Lightning fern burns): https://www.glenallenweather.com/alink/20thunder/Lichtenberg%20Figures.pdf Thagomizer: https://www.amusingplanet.com/2020/07/thagomizer-why-stegosaurus-spiky-tail.html Learn more about archaeological giants on Digging Up Ancient Aliens: https://diggingupancientaliens.com/episode-55-giants.html The Myth of the Moundbuilders: https://www.thoughtco.com/moundbuilder-myth-history-and-death-171536 J.B.S. Haldane's “Precambrian rabbits”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precambrian_rabbit
This week, Fika with Vicky welcomes Author Janet Trull. We'll be looking into her books End of the Line and Something's Burning. Quote from Janet: “The backroads are unpaved, unplowed and unpopular. All the best stories start here.” When I came into contact with End of the Line, I had to agree. It had found my sweet spot. Ordinary people living their lives become extraordinary stories of resilience when a pen is placed in the correct hands. Janet Trull has those hands. About End of the Line: Haliburton, Ontario, 1878. The new Victoria Rail Line delivers hundreds of immigrants to the last station in the Northern Townships. Some are wealthy, ready to take advantage of new opportunities. Most are poor and illiterate. The farmland is free. All you must do is build a cabin and raise crops out of Precambrian rock. The fortunate ones find their way up the ridge to the Nunnery where women practice traditions from mixed ancestries. They are skilled in midwifery and hunting. Are you hungry? Lonely? Do you need a cure for venereal disease? The nuns can help. Too bad the moral folk in the village disapprove. The ones who make laws and build churches and profit from felled trees. It takes a brutal murder to reveal the worst of human greed and the best of the human heart. The dead have much to teach the living at the end of the line. About Something's Burning: A collection of short fiction about betrayal and belonging in times of social upheaval. Small town settings. Big world themes. About Janet: Janet Trull lives in the Haliburton Highlands, a land of blue lakes and rocky shores. She is the author of two critically acclaimed collections of short fiction, Hot Town and Something's Burning, both published by At Bay Press , Winnipeg. With small town settings and big world themes, her stories examine the tension between neighbours, genders, and generations during times of social and cultural change. A graduate of English at McMaster University, Trull focused on literacy throughout her career as an educator. She was a Reading Recovery teacher, a Literacy Coach and a Student Achievement Officer for the Ontario Ministry of Education. Her essays, professional writing and short stories have appeared in a wide variety of publications, including the Globe and Mail, Toronto Star, Canadian Living Magazine, Prairie Fire, The New Quarterly, subTerrain Magazine, and Geist. Subscribers to the Haliburton County Echo recognize Trull as a frequent contributor, with nostalgic essays about skinny dips, campfires and lazy afternoons in hammocks. These are accessible on her website, trullstories.com Janet Trull is the recipient of several awards, including a CBC Canada Writes challenge, a Western Magazine Award nomination, and a Commonwealth Fiction prize. Terry Fallis, two-time winner of the Stephen Leacock Medal for Humour, says, “Janet Trull knows her way around people and communities as well as the issues that hold them together, and sometimes break them apart.”
This week, Fika with Vicky welcomes Author Janet Trull. We'll be looking into her books End of the Line and Something's Burning. Quote from Janet: “The backroads are unpaved, unplowed and unpopular. All the best stories start here.” When I came into contact with End of the Line, I had to agree. It had found my sweet spot. Ordinary people living their lives become extraordinary stories of resilience when a pen is placed in the correct hands. Janet Trull has those hands. About End of the Line: Haliburton, Ontario, 1878. The new Victoria Rail Line delivers hundreds of immigrants to the last station in the Northern Townships. Some are wealthy, ready to take advantage of new opportunities. Most are poor and illiterate. The farmland is free. All you must do is build a cabin and raise crops out of Precambrian rock. The fortunate ones find their way up the ridge to the Nunnery where women practice traditions from mixed ancestries. They are skilled in midwifery and hunting. Are you hungry? Lonely? Do you need a cure for venereal disease? The nuns can help. Too bad the moral folk in the village disapprove. The ones who make laws and build churches and profit from felled trees. It takes a brutal murder to reveal the worst of human greed and the best of the human heart. The dead have much to teach the living at the end of the line. About Something's Burning: A collection of short fiction about betrayal and belonging in times of social upheaval. Small town settings. Big world themes. About Janet: Janet Trull lives in the Haliburton Highlands, a land of blue lakes and rocky shores. She is the author of two critically acclaimed collections of short fiction, Hot Town and Something's Burning, both published by At Bay Press , Winnipeg. With small town settings and big world themes, her stories examine the tension between neighbours, genders, and generations during times of social and cultural change. A graduate of English at McMaster University, Trull focused on literacy throughout her career as an educator. She was a Reading Recovery teacher, a Literacy Coach and a Student Achievement Officer for the Ontario Ministry of Education. Her essays, professional writing and short stories have appeared in a wide variety of publications, including the Globe and Mail, Toronto Star, Canadian Living Magazine, Prairie Fire, The New Quarterly, subTerrain Magazine, and Geist. Subscribers to the Haliburton County Echo recognize Trull as a frequent contributor, with nostalgic essays about skinny dips, campfires and lazy afternoons in hammocks. These are accessible on her website, trullstories.com Janet Trull is the recipient of several awards, including a CBC Canada Writes challenge, a Western Magazine Award nomination, and a Commonwealth Fiction prize. Terry Fallis, two-time winner of the Stephen Leacock Medal for Humour, says, “Janet Trull knows her way around people and communities as well as the issues that hold them together, and sometimes break them apart.”
Banded Iron Formations (BIFs) are a visually striking group of sedimentary rocks that are iron rich and almost exclusively deposited in the Precambrian. Their existence points to a major marine iron cycle that does not operate today. Several theories have been proposed to explain how the BIFs formed. While they all involve the precipitation of ferric (Fe3+) iron hydroxides from the seawater via oxidation of dissolved ferrous (Fe2+) iron that was abundant when the oceans contained very low levels of free oxygen, they disagree as to how this oxidation occurred. In the podcast, Clark Johnson describes how oxidation could have occurred without the presence of abundant free oxygen in the oceans. Clark Johnson is a Professor Emeritus in the Department of Geoscience at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.
-- Finches Diversify in Decades, Opals Form in Months, Man's Genetic Diversity in 200 Generations, C-14 Everywhere: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams present their classic program that led to the audience-favorites rsr.org/list-shows! See below and hear on today's radio program our list of Not So Old and Not So Slow Things! From opals forming in months to man's genetic diversity in 200 generations, and with carbon 14 everywhere it's not supposed to be (including in diamonds and dinosaur bones!), scientific observations fill the guys' most traditional list challenging those who claim that the earth is billions of years old. Many of these scientific finds demand a re-evaluation of supposed million and billion-year ages. * Finches Adapt in 17 Years, Not 2.3 Million: Charles Darwin's finches are claimed to have taken 2,300,000 years to diversify from an initial species blown onto the Galapagos Islands. Yet individuals from a single finch species on a U.S. Bird Reservation in the Pacific were introduced to a group of small islands 300 miles away and in at most 17 years, like Darwin's finches, they had diversified their beaks, related muscles, and behavior to fill various ecological niches. Hear about this also at rsr.org/spetner. * Opals Can Form in "A Few Months" And Don't Need 100,000 Years: A leading authority on opals, Allan W. Eckert, observed that, "scientific papers and textbooks have told that the process of opal formation requires tens of thousands of years, perhaps hundreds of thousands... Not true." A 2011 peer-reviewed paper in a geology journal from Australia, where almost all the world's opal is found, reported on the: "new timetable for opal formation involving weeks to a few months and not the hundreds of thousands of years envisaged by the conventional weathering model." (And apparently, per a 2019 report from Entomology Today, opals can even form around insects!) More knowledgeable scientists resist the uncritical, group-think insistence on false super-slow formation rates (as also for manganese nodules, gold veins, stone, petroleum, canyons and gullies, and even guts, all below). Regarding opals, Darwinian bias led geologists to long ignore possible quick action, as from microbes, as a possible explanation for these mineraloids. For both in nature and in the lab, opals form rapidly, not even in 10,000 years, but in weeks. See this also from creationists by a geologist, a paleobiochemist, and a nuclear chemist. * Finches Speciate in Two Generations vs Two Million Years for Darwin's Birds? Darwin's finches on the Galapagos Islands are said to have diversified into 14 species over a period of two million years. But in 2017 the journal Science reported a newcomer to the Island which within two generations spawned a reproductively isolated new species. In another instance as documented by Lee Spetner, a hundred birds of the same finch species introduced to an island cluster a 1,000 kilometers from Galapagos diversified into species with the typical variations in beak sizes, etc. "If this diversification occurred in less than seventeen years," Dr. Spetner asks, "why did Darwin's Galapagos finches [as claimed by evolutionists] have to take two million years?" * Blue Eyes Originated Not So Long Ago: Not a million years ago, nor a hundred thousand years ago, but based on a peer-reviewed paper in Human Genetics, a press release at Science Daily reports that, "research shows that people with blue eyes have a single, common ancestor. A team at the University of Copenhagen have tracked down a genetic mutation which took place 6-10,000 years ago and is the cause of the eye colour of all blue-eyed humans alive on the planet today." * Adding the Entire Universe to our List of Not So Old Things? Based on March 2019 findings from Hubble, Nobel laureate Adam Riess of the Space Telescope Science Institute and his co-authors in the Astrophysical Journal estimate that the universe is about a billion years younger than previously thought! Then in September 2019 in the journal Science, the age dropped precipitiously to as low as 11.4 billion years! Of course, these measurements also further squeeze the canonical story of the big bang chronology with its many already existing problems including the insufficient time to "evolve" distant mature galaxies, galaxy clusters, superclusters, enormous black holes, filaments, bubbles, walls, and other superstructures. So, even though the latest estimates are still absurdly too old (Google: big bang predictions, and click on the #1 ranked article, or just go on over there to rsr.org/bb), regardless, we thought we'd plop the whole universe down on our List of Not So Old Things! * After the Soft Tissue Discoveries, NOW Dino DNA: When a North Carolina State University paleontologist took the Tyrannosaurus Rex photos to the right of original biological material, that led to the 2016 discovery of dinosaur DNA, So far researchers have also recovered dinosaur blood vessels, collagen, osteocytes, hemoglobin, red blood cells, and various proteins. As of May 2018, twenty-six scientific journals, including Nature, Science, PNAS, PLoS One, Bone, and Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, have confirmed the discovery of biomaterial fossils from many dinosaurs! Organisms including T. Rex, hadrosaur, titanosaur, triceratops, Lufengosaur, mosasaur, and Archaeopteryx, and many others dated, allegedly, even hundreds of millions of years old, have yielded their endogenous, still-soft biological material. See the web's most complete listing of 100+ journal papers (screenshot, left) announcing these discoveries at bflist.rsr.org and see it in layman's terms at rsr.org/soft. * Rapid Stalactites, Stalagmites, Etc.: A construction worker in 1954 left a lemonade bottle in one of Australia's famous Jenolan Caves. By 2011 it had been naturally transformed into a stalagmite (below, right). Increasing scientific knowledge is arguing for rapid cave formation (see below, Nat'l Park Service shrinks Carlsbad Caverns formation estimates from 260M years, to 10M, to 2M, to it "depends"). Likewise, examples are growing of rapid formations with typical chemical make-up (see bottle, left) of classic stalactites and stalagmites including:- in Nat'l Geo the Carlsbad Caverns stalagmite that rapidly covered a bat - the tunnel stalagmites at Tennessee's Raccoon Mountain - hundreds of stalactites beneath the Lincoln Memorial - those near Gladfelter Hall at Philadelphia's Temple University (send photos to Bob@rsr.org) - hundreds of stalactites at Australia's zinc mine at Mt. Isa. - and those beneath Melbourne's Shrine of Remembrance. * Most Human Mutations Arose in 200 Generations: From Adam until Real Science Radio, in only 200 generations! The journal Nature reports The Recent Origin of Most Human Protein-coding Variants. As summarized by geneticist co-author Joshua Akey, "Most of the mutations that we found arose in the last 200 generations or so" (the same number previously published by biblical creationists). Another 2012 paper, in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology (Eugenie Scott's own field) on High mitochondrial mutation rates, shows that one mitochondrial DNA mutation occurs every other generation, which, as creationists point out, indicates that mtEve would have lived about 200 generations ago. That's not so old! * National Geographic's Not-So-Old Hard-Rock Canyon at Mount St. Helens: As our List of Not So Old Things (this web page) reveals, by a kneejerk reaction evolutionary scientists assign ages of tens or hundreds of thousands of years (or at least just long enough to contradict Moses' chronology in Genesis.) However, with closer study, routinely, more and more old ages get revised downward to fit the world's growing scientific knowledge. So the trend is not that more information lengthens ages, but rather, as data replaces guesswork, ages tend to shrink until they are consistent with the young-earth biblical timeframe. Consistent with this observation, the May 2000 issue of National Geographic quotes the U.S. Forest Service's scientist at Mount St. Helens, Peter Frenzen, describing the canyon on the north side of the volcano. "You'd expect a hard-rock canyon to be thousands, even hundreds of thousands of years old. But this was cut in less than a decade." And as for the volcano itself, while again, the kneejerk reaction of old-earthers would be to claim that most geologic features are hundreds of thousands or millions of years old, the atheistic National Geographic magazine acknowledges from the evidence that Mount St. Helens, the volcanic mount, is only about 4,000 years old! See below and more at rsr.org/mount-st-helens. * Mount St. Helens Dome Ten Years Old not 1.7 Million: Geochron Laboratories of Cambridge, Mass., using potassium-argon and other radiometric techniques claims the rock sample they dated, from the volcano's dome, solidified somewhere between 340,000 and 2.8 million years ago. However photographic evidence and historical reports document the dome's formation during the 1980s, just ten years prior to the samples being collected. With the age of this rock known, radiometric dating therefore gets the age 99.99999% wrong. * Devils Hole Pupfish Isolated Not for 13,000 Years But for 100: Secular scientists default to knee-jerk, older-than-Bible-age dates. However, a tiny Mojave desert fish is having none of it. Rather than having been genetically isolated from other fish for 13,000 years (which would make this small school of fish older than the Earth itself), according to a paper in the journal Nature, actual measurements of mutation rates indicate that the genetic diversity of these Pupfish could have been generated in about 100 years, give or take a few. * Polystrates like Spines and Rare Schools of Fossilized Jellyfish: Previously, seven sedimentary layers in Wisconsin had been described as taking a million years to form. And because jellyfish have no skeleton, as Charles Darwin pointed out, it is rare to find them among fossils. But now, reported in the journal Geology, a school of jellyfish fossils have been found throughout those same seven layers. So, polystrate fossils that condense the time of strata deposition from eons to hours or months, include: - Jellyfish in central Wisconsin were not deposited and fossilized over a million years but during a single event quick enough to trap a whole school. (This fossil school, therefore, taken as a unit forms a polystrate fossil.) Examples are everywhere that falsify the claims of strata deposition over millions of years. - Countless trilobites buried in astounding three dimensionality around the world are meticulously recovered from limestone, much of which is claimed to have been deposited very slowly. Contrariwise, because these specimens were buried rapidly in quickly laid down sediments, they show no evidence of greater erosion on their upper parts as compared to their lower parts.- The delicacy of radiating spine polystrates, like tadpole and jellyfish fossils, especially clearly demonstrate the rapidity of such strata deposition. - A second school of jellyfish, even though they rarely fossilized, exists in another locale with jellyfish fossils in multiple layers, in Australia's Brockman Iron Formation, constraining there too the rate of strata deposition. By the way, jellyfish are an example of evolution's big squeeze. Like galaxies evolving too quickly, galaxy clusters, and even human feet (which, like Mummy DNA, challenge the Out of Africa paradigm), jellyfish have gotten into the act squeezing evolution's timeline, here by 200 million years when they were found in strata allegedly a half-a-billion years old. Other examples, ironically referred to as Medusoid Problematica, are even found in pre-Cambrian strata. - 171 tadpoles of the same species buried in diatoms. - Leaves buried vertically through single-celled diatoms powerfully refute the claimed super-slow deposition of diatomaceous rock. - Many fossils, including a Mesosaur, have been buried in multiple "varve" layers, which are claimed to be annual depositions, yet they show no erosional patterns that would indicate gradual burial (as they claim, absurdly, over even thousands of years). - A single whale skeleton preserved in California in dozens of layers of diatom deposits thus forming a polystrate fossil. - 40 whales buried in the desert in Chile. "What's really interesting is that this didn't just happen once," said Smithsonian evolutionist Dr. Nick Pyenson. It happened four times." Why's that? Because "the fossil site has at least four layers", to which Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart replies: "Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha", with RSR co-host Fred Williams thoughtfully adding, "Ha ha!" * Polystrate Trees: Examples abound around the world of polystrate trees: - Yellowstone's petrified polystrate forest (with the NPS exhibit sign removed; see below) with successive layers of rootless trees demonstrating the rapid deposition of fifty layers of strata. - A similarly formed polystrate fossil forest in France demonstrating the rapid deposition of a dozen strata. - In a thousand locations including famously the Fossil Cliffs of Joggins, Nova Scotia, polystrate fossils such as trees span many strata. - These trees lack erosion: Not only should such fossils, generally speaking, not even exist, but polystrates including trees typically show no evidence of erosion increasing with height. All of this powerfully disproves the claim that the layers were deposited slowly over thousands or millions of years. In the experience of your RSR radio hosts, evolutionists commonly respond to this hard evidence with mocking. See CRSQ June 2006, ICR Impact #316, and RSR 8-11-06 at KGOV.com. * Yellowstone Petrified Trees Sign Removed: The National Park Service removed their incorrect sign (see left and more). The NPS had claimed that in dozens of different strata over a 40-square mile area, many petrified trees were still standing where they had grown. The NPS eventually removed the sign partly because those petrified trees had no root systems, which they would have had if they had grown there. Instead, the trees of this "fossil forest" have roots that are abruptly broken off two or three feet from their trunks. If these mature trees actually had been remnants of sequential forests that had grown up in strata layer on top of strata layer, 27 times on Specimen Ridge (and 50 times at Specimen Creek), such a natural history implies passage of more time than permitted by biblical chronology. So, don't trust the National Park Service on historical science because they're wrong on the age of the Earth. * Wood Petrifies Quickly: Not surprisingly, by the common evolutionary knee-jerk claim of deep time, "several researchers believe that several millions of years are necessary for the complete formation of silicified wood". Our List of Not So Old and Not So Slow Things includes the work of five Japanese scientists who proved creationist research and published their results in the peer-reviewed journal Sedimentary Geology showing that wood can and does petrify rapidly. Modern wood significantly petrified in 36 years these researchers concluded that wood buried in strata could have been petrified in "a fairly short period of time, in the order of several tens to hundreds of years." * The Scablands: The primary surface features of the Scablands, which cover thousands of square miles of eastern Washington, were long believed to have formed gradually. Yet, against the determined claims of uniformitarian geologists, there is now overwhelming evidence as presented even in a NOVA TV program that the primary features of the Scablands formed rapidly from a catastrophic breach of Lake Missoula causing a massive regional flood. Of course evolutionary geologists still argue that the landscape was formed over tens of thousands of years, now by claiming there must have been a hundred Missoula floods. However, the evidence that there was Only One Lake Missoula Flood has been powerfully reinforced by a University of Colorado Ph.D. thesis. So the Scablands itself is no longer available to old-earthers as de facto evidence for the passage of millions of years. * The Heart Mountain Detachment: in Wyoming just east of Yellowstone, this mountain did not break apart slowly by uniformitarian processes but in only about half-an-hour as widely reported including in the evolutionist LiveScience.com, "Land Speed Record: Mountain Moves 62 Miles in 30 Minutes." The evidence indicates that this mountain of rock covering 425 square miles rapidly broke into 50 pieces and slid apart over an area of more than 1,300 square miles in a biblical, not a "geological," timeframe. * "150 Million" year-old Squid Ink Not Decomposed: This still-writable ink had dehydrated but had not decomposed! The British Geological Survey's Dr. Phil Wilby, who excavated the fossil, said, "It is difficult to imagine how you can have something as soft and sloppy as an ink sac fossilised in three dimensions, still black, and inside a rock that is 150 million years old." And the Daily Mail states that, "the black ink was of exactly the same structure as that of today's version", just desiccated. And Wilby added, "Normally you would find only the hard parts like the shell and bones fossilised but... these creatures... can be dissected as if they are living animals, you can see the muscle fibres and cells. It is difficult to imagine... The structure is similar to ink from a modern squid so we can write with it..." Why is this difficult for evolutionists to imagine? Because as Dr. Carl Wieland writes, "Chemical structures 'fall apart' all by themselves over time due to the randomizing effects of molecular motion."Decades ago Bob Enyart broadcast a geology program about Mount St. Helens' catastrophic destruction of forests and the hydraulic transportation and upright deposition of trees. Later, Bob met the chief ranger from Haleakala National Park on Hawaii's island of Maui, Mark Tanaka-Sanders. The ranger agreed to correspond with his colleague at Yellowstone to urge him to have the sign removed. Thankfully, it was then removed. (See also AIG, CMI, and all the original Yellowstone exhibit photos.) Groundbreaking research conducted by creation geologist Dr. Steve Austin in Spirit Lake after Mount St. Helens eruption provided a modern-day analog to the formation of Yellowstone fossil forest. A steam blast from that volcano blew over tens of thousands of trees leaving them without attached roots. Many thousands of those trees were floating upright in Spirit Lake, and began sinking at varying rates into rapidly and sporadically deposited sediments. Once Yellowstone's successive forest interpretation was falsified (though like with junk DNA, it's too big to fail, so many atheists and others still cling to it), the erroneous sign was removed. * Asiatic vs. European Honeybees: These two populations of bees have been separated supposedly for seven million years. A researcher decided to put the two together to see what would happen. What we should have here is a failure to communicate that would have resulted after their "language" evolved over millions of years. However, European and Asiatic honeybees are still able to communicate, putting into doubt the evolutionary claim that they were separated over "geologic periods." For more, see the Public Library of Science, Asiatic Honeybees Can Understand Dance Language of European Honeybees. (Oh yeah, and why don't fossils of poorly-formed honeycombs exist, from the millions of years before the bees and natural selection finally got the design right? Ha! Because they don't exist! :) Nautiloid proves rapid limestone formation. * Remember the Nautiloids: In the Grand Canyon there is a limestone layer averaging seven feet thick that runs the 277 miles of the canyon (and beyond) that covers hundreds of square miles and contains an average of one nautiloid fossil per square meter. Along with many other dead creatures in this one particular layer, 15% of these nautiloids were killed and then fossilized standing on their heads. Yes, vertically. They were caught in such an intense and rapid catastrophic flow that gravity was not able to cause all of their dead carcasses to fall over on their sides. Famed Mount St. Helens geologist Steve Austin is also the world's leading expert on nautiloid fossils and has worked in the canyon and presented his findings to the park's rangers at the invitation of National Park Service officials. Austin points out, as is true of many of the world's mass fossil graveyards, that this enormous nautiloid deposition provides indisputable proof of the extremely rapid formation of a significant layer of limestone near the bottom of the canyon, a layer like the others we've been told about, that allegedly formed at the bottom of a calm and placid sea with slow and gradual sedimentation. But a million nautiloids, standing on their heads, literally, would beg to differ. At our sister stie, RSR provides the relevant Geologic Society of America abstract, links, and video. * Now It's Allegedly Two Million Year-Old Leaves: "When we started pulling leaves out of the soil, that was surreal, to know that it's millions of years old..." sur-re-al: adjective: a bizarre mix of fact and fantasy. In this case, the leaves are the facts. Earth scientists from Ohio State and the University of Minnesota say that wood and leaves they found in the Canadian Arctic are at least two million years old, and perhaps more than ten million years old, even though the leaves are just dry and crumbly and the wood still burns! * Gold Precipitates in Veins in Less than a Second: After geologists submitted for decades to the assumption that each layer of gold would deposit at the alleged super slow rates of geologic process, the journal Nature Geoscience reports that each layer of deposition can occur within a few tenths of a second. Meanwhile, at the Lihir gold deposit in Papua New Guinea, evolutionists assumed the more than 20 million ounces of gold in the Lihir reserve took millions of years to deposit, but as reported in the journal Science, geologists can now demonstrate that the deposit could have formed in thousands of years, or far more quickly! Iceland's not-so-old Surtsey Island looks ancient. * Surtsey Island, Iceland: Of the volcanic island that formed in 1963, New Scientist reported in 2007 about Surtsey that "geographers... marvel that canyons, gullies and other land features that typically take tens of thousands or millions of years to form were created in less than a decade." Yes. And Sigurdur Thorarinsson, Iceland's chief geologist, wrote in the months after Surtsey formed, "that the time scale," he had been trained "to attach to geological developments is misleading." [For what is said to] take thousands of years... the same development may take a few weeks or even days here [including to form] a landscape... so varied and mature that it was almost beyond belief... wide sandy beaches and precipitous crags... gravel banks and lagoons, impressive cliffs… hollows, glens and soft undulating land... fractures and faultscarps, channels and screes… confounded by what met your eye... boulders worn by the surf, some of which were almost round... -Iceland's chief geologist * The Palouse River Gorge: In the southeast of Washington State, the Palouse River Gorge is one of many features formed rapidly by 500 cubic miles of water catastrophically released with the breaching of a natural dam in the Lake Missoula Flood (which gouged out the Scablands as described above). So, hard rock can be breached and eroded rapidly. * Leaf Shapes Identical for 190 Million Years? From Berkley.edu, "Ginkgo biloba... dates back to... about 190 million years ago... fossilized leaf material from the Tertiary species Ginkgo adiantoides is considered similar or even identical to that produced by modern Ginkgo biloba trees... virtually indistinguishable..." The literature describes leaf shapes as "spectacularly diverse" sometimes within a species but especially across the plant kingdom. Because all kinds of plants survive with all kinds of different leaf shapes, the conservation of a species retaining a single shape over alleged deep time is a telling issue. Darwin's theory is undermined by the unchanging shape over millions of years of a species' leaf shape. This lack of change, stasis in what should be an easily morphable plant trait, supports the broader conclusion that chimp-like creatures did not become human beings and all the other ambitious evolutionary creation of new kinds are simply imagined. (Ginkgo adiantoides and biloba are actually the same species. Wikipedia states, "It is doubtful whether the Northern Hemisphere fossil species of Ginkgo can be reliably distinguished." For oftentimes, as documented by Dr. Carl Werner in his Evolution: The Grand Experiment series, paleontogists falsely speciate identical specimens, giving different species names, even different genus names, to the fossil and living animals that appear identical.) * Box Canyon, Idaho: Geologists now think Box Canyon in Idaho, USA, was carved by a catastrophic flood and not slowly over millions of years with 1) huge plunge pools formed by waterfalls; 2) the almost complete removal of large basalt boulders from the canyon; 3) an eroded notch on the plateau at the top of the canyon; and 4) water scour marks on the basalt plateau leading to the canyon. Scientists calculate that the flood was so large that it could have eroded the whole canyon in as little as 35 days. See the journal Science, Formation of Box Canyon, Idaho, by Megaflood, and the Journal of Creation, and Creation Magazine. * Manganese Nodules Rapid Formation: Allegedly, as claimed at the Wikipedia entry from 2005 through 2021: "Nodule growth is one of the slowest of all geological phenomena – in the order of a centimeter over several million years." Wow, that would be slow! And a Texas A&M Marine Sciences technical slide presentation says, “They grow very slowly (mm/million years) and can be tens of millions of years old", with RWU's oceanography textbook also putting it at "0.001 mm per thousand years." But according to a World Almanac documentary they have formed "around beer cans," said marine geologist Dr. John Yates in the 1997 video Universe Beneath the Sea: The Next Frontier. There are also reports of manganese nodules forming around ships sunk in the First World War. See more at at youngearth.com, at TOL, in the print edition of the Journal of Creation, and in this typical forum discussion with atheists (at the Chicago Cubs forum no less :). * "6,000 year-old" Mitochondrial Eve: As the Bible calls "Eve... the mother of all living" (Gen. 3:20), genetic researchers have named the one woman from whom all humans have descended "Mitochondrial Eve." But in a scientific attempt to date her existence, they openly admit that they included chimpanzee DNA in their analysis in order to get what they viewed as a reasonably old date of 200,000 years ago (which is still surprisingly recent from their perspective, but old enough not to strain Darwinian theory too much). But then as widely reported including by Science magazine, when they dropped the chimp data and used only actual human mutation rates, that process determined that Eve lived only six thousand years ago! In Ann Gibbon's Science article, "Calibrating the Mitochondrial Clock," rather than again using circular reasoning by assuming their conclusion (that humans evolved from ape-like creatures), they performed their calculations using actual measured mutation rates. This peer-reviewed journal then reported that if these rates have been constant, "mitochondrial Eve… would be a mere 6000 years old." See also the journal Nature and creation.com's "A shrinking date for Eve," and Walt Brown's assessment. Expectedly though, evolutionists have found a way to reject their own unbiased finding (the conclusion contrary to their self-interest) by returning to their original method of using circular reasoning, as reported in the American Journal of Human Genetics, "calibrating against recent evidence for the divergence time of humans and chimpanzees," to reset their mitochondrial clock back to 200,000 years. * Even Younger Y-Chromosomal Adam: (Although he should be called, "Y-Chromosomal Noah.") While we inherit our mtDNA only from our mothers, only men have a Y chromosome (which incidentally genetically disproves the claim that the fetus is "part of the woman's body," since the little boy's y chromosome could never be part of mom's body). Based on documented mutation rates on and the extraordinary lack of mutational differences in this specifically male DNA, the Y-chromosomal Adam would have lived only a few thousand years ago! (He's significantly younger than mtEve because of the genetic bottleneck of the global flood.) Yet while the Darwinian camp wrongly claimed for decades that humans were 98% genetically similar to chimps, secular scientists today, using the same type of calculation only more accurately, have unintentionally documented that chimps are about as far genetically from what makes a human being a male, as mankind itself is from sponges! Geneticists have found now that sponges are 70% the same as humans genetically, and separately, that human and chimp Y chromosomes are "horrendously" 30%
Interview by Kris PetersAfter a long period of member changes - including around 40 in the first two years of the band - Berlin progressive metal outfit The Ocean have finally had a settled lineup for a prolonged period of time and the results are clearly evident in the consistently high quality of releases enjoyed by the band in recent times. Following the universal success of the Phanerozoic double release of albums, which was meant to close the conceptual trilogy started on 2007's Precambrian, guitarist and surviving original member Robin Staps found his mind wandering back to that franchise during the writing process for their latest album Holocene, and as such the trilogy was extended by one to make it a four part concept.Holocene sees the band add a closing chapter to their paleontology-inspired album series, presenting a gear shift towards the electronic world while reaching new depths of heaviness at the same time.Staps sat down with HEAVY to bring us the latest."It has a bit of a different emphasis than previous ones," he began talking about Holocene, "more electronic but still heavy."With the album coming out back on May 19 we ask Stap how the early reception to Holocene has been."It's been quite overwhelming," he smiled. "There's nothing but Holocene in the feed for a week now, and I think people are very enthusiastic about the record. We weren't sure - we're never sure - because each one of our records takes a bit of a different direction while staying true to the essence I hope. We like to challenge ourselves and our listeners and not just repeat the same formula each and every time. You never really know how people will react, so it's always interesting. This one has been exceptionally well and we can't wait to actually play it live."In the full interview Robin explains the electronic element more and why they have gone down that path, the conclusion of the paleontology inspired album series and what might come next, getting atmospherics in your music and how difficult that is to do, the pressures of a successful album, their upcoming live shows and more.
Saludos geonáufragos. Llegamos tarde pero más vale tarde que nunca. Iniciamos el programa de hoy hablando sobre la inminente Geoquedada que tendrá lugar este fin de semana del 19 al 21 de mayo. Y también comentamos por encima (a toro pasado) la celebración del Geolodía en España. Para entrar en materia empezamos resolviendo una cuestión sobre las "bolsas" de hidrógeno que nos plantearon el mes pasado. Mario expone el tema con tremenda maestría. Aquí os dejamos los enlaces para que profundicéis más en el tema: Hidden hydrogen: Earth may hold vast stores of a renewable, carbon-free fuel The contribution of the Precambrian continental lithosphere to global H2 production Helios Aragón aspira a convertir la región en hub europeo del hidrógeno ErasmoPower2X, el gran proyecto hidrógeno verde de Power2X y Soto Solar para Saceruela (Ciudad Real) Otras noticias que hemos comentado han sido: NASA mission detects first seismic waves traveling through the center of Mars First observations of core-transiting seismic phases on Mars Realidad virtual en el Geoparc Origens Geólogos piden un apartado en solitario en el listado de conocimientos del Real decreto de Departamentos universitarios El cohete Starship de SpaceX despega en vuelo de prueba inaugural, pero explota en el aire Realiza una donación Grupo de Telegram: t.me/geocastawaypodcast CURSOS ACADEMIA GEOCASTAWAY Web: http://geocastaway.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/geocastaway Facebook: http://facebook.com/geocastaway Youtube: http://youtube.com/geocastaway Correo: geocastaway@gmail.com
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Dinosaurs. Jurassic Park. Smithsonian. Dreams. Young Earth Creationism. Cretaceous. Ankylosaurus. Suaropoda. Zoids.
Andy Knoll is a Renaissance Scientist. He is a geologist, paleobiologist, and geochemist and has applied key ideas from chemistry, biology, physiology and more to understanding the key developments associated with life on Earth—both how geology and chemistry have impacted on life, and vice versa. He has made ground breaking contributions to the understanding of almost every phase of life, from early Pre-Cambrian single cell life, to the emergence of more complex lifeforms, to mass extinctions. His group was the first to demonstrate that the rapid rise of CO2 was probably responsible for the last great extinction on Earth, a subject of some relevance today. For his work he most recently won the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences Crafoord Prize in Geosciences… the equivalent of the Nobel Prize in that field.But more than all of this, Andy is a wonderful teacher and human being, and a great communicator . He has written numerous books on the history of life on Earth, and we discussed his most recent book, “A Brief History of Earth: Four Billion Years in Eight Chapters” in this podcast, along with his own origins and evolution as a scientist. The discussion was so fascinating that we went overtime during our first session and had to continue the next day. Our discussion will forever change your perspective on our planet, and our place within it. Enjoy.As always, an ad-free video version of this podcast is also available to paid Critical Mass subscribers . Your subscriptions support the non-profit Origins Project Foundation, which produces the podcast. The audio version is available free on the Critical Mass site and on all podcast sites, and the video version will also be available on the Origins Project Youtube channel as well. Get full access to Critical Mass at lawrencekrauss.substack.com/subscribe
On today's ID the Future Casey Luskin hosts distinguished German paleontologist Günter Bechly to discuss Bechly's essay in the recent Harvest House anthology, The Comprehensive Guide to Science and Faith: Exploring the Ultimate Questions About Life and the Cosmos. Darwinian evolution predicts a gradually branching tree of living forms, with one form shading into another over long periods of evolution, with each transitional step almost too modest to notice. Does the fossil record suggest such a pattern? Quite the opposite, Bechly says. Instead the pattern of the fossil record is consistently one of sudden appearance, and evolutionists have yet to successfully construct a single robustly populated series of gradually transitioning fossils that move chronologically from one form to a distinctly different Read More › Source
Scientists have identified one of the earliest multicellular algae. Their new method could help unlock much more information from Precambrian fossils. Read the post at https://www.botany.one/2022/01/what-does-chlorophyll-leave-behind-after-a-billion-years/ Read the original research at https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-021-27810-7
* The Flesh: Just as gravity affects our physical universe, our flesh affects our spiritual lives. On this special edition of Real Science Radio, we present a previously aired episode of Theology Thursday. * Trading Genesis: Check out Bob Enyart's theistic evolution presentation in Malibu: * From the RSR Email Inbox:Forwarded conversation Subject: Guys, this email thread btw some guy Ken and me re dino bones cracks me up... ------------------------ From: Bob Enyart Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:56 PM To: Jane Albright, Kevin Lea In chronological order... On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:30 PM, k wrote: Dan says you will pay me 10,000 to test some material for you. Please let me know how to collect the 10k. I could use the money, also please let me know how you would like to freight the material to me and where you would like me to freight it to for testing. ------------------------ On 9/30/2015 2:42 PM, Bob Enyart wrote: 10,000 what? Dan who? Ken, maybe you've emailed the wrong person? - Bob EnyartKGOV.com - RealScienceRadio.com - rsr.org - DinosaurSoftTissue.com ------------------------ On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:45 PM, k wrote: Hi Bob, Ah maybe, sorry if so. A friend told me to get in contact with you about collecting ten thousand dollars to test some material. I know now it was a joke... LOL Sorry again, ~ Ken ------------------------ On 9/30/2015 3:20 PM, Bob Enyart wrote: :) - Bob EnyartKGOV.com - RealScienceRadio.com - rsr.org - DinosaurSoftTissue.com https://youtu.be/t8FfF2BgP9E [RSR Trading Genesis video]https://youtu.be/ML-p2CV8SHU [RSR Dino Soft Tissue video trailer] ------------------------ On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:13 PM, k wrote: Very sorry, but my friend Dan is pretty worked up, I think the joke will not die... So I will send you what he says and I promise not to take any more of your important time. " You should reply to him and tell him that you would like to date a dinosaur bone for C-14 and that you have heard he offers 10,000 dollars (link him to the video) for someone to do it. Then he will probably clarify.. " Again, please forgive me for this, ~ Ken ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bob Enyart Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:46 PM Subject: Re: 10 dogs To: k Yes, of course, a thousand pardons Ken for not understanding you right off. Your friend Dan is right to be worked up. There's real money to be made here. This brief YouTube video documents our verbal offer to paleontologist Jack (smell-these-dino-bones) Horner, and then a scan of our written grant offer follows, as does an excerpt from our rsr.org/soft-tissue page... youtu.be/PXy7EH13lCo [Bob's call to Jack Horner]And Ken, then there's this, from atop our rsr.org/dino-soft-tissue page... * Summer 2015 UPDATE: Two Dinosaur Soft Tissue Predictions Confirmed! Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams had predicted on air and in writing atrsr.org/predictions that: - Dinosaur soft tissue will be found not only in rare circumstances, but rather easily, i.e., when looked for. CONFIRMED in JUNE 2015! The journal Nature Communications reported original tissue in six of eight dinosaur bones investigated, leading to the conclusion that "preservation is more common than previously thought." And: - Original dinosaur and other soft tissue will be found largely independent of the claimed age of the fossil. CONFIRMED in April 2014! The Journal of Paleontology reported original soft tissue in Precambrian "beard worms" that are allegedly 530 million years old! Here, RSR presents the scientific journals reporting, the kinds of biological material found so far, and the dinosaurs yielding up these exciting discoveries: Scientific Journals: Nature, Science, PNAS, PLoS One, Proceedings of the Royal Society, Bone, Acta Histochemica, the Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, and others below in our chronological catalog, "the web's most complete list of dinosaur soft tissue discoveries," as published in many leading journals, according to a co-author of one of those papers. Biological Material Found: As of April 2015, in fossils from dinosaur-layer and deeper strata, researchers have discovered flexible and transparent blood vessels, red blood cells, many various proteins including the microtubule building block tubulin, collagen, the cytoskeleton component actin, and hemoglobin, bone maintenance osteocyte cells, pigment and evidence of melanosomes, DNA-related histone proteins, and powerful evidence for DNA including positive results from multiple double-helix tests. Dinosaur and Dinosaur-Layer Creatures: The dinosaurs and other Mesozoic creatures that have yielded their biological material are hadrosaur, titanosaur, ornithomimosaur [ostrich-like dinosaurs], mosasaur, [bird-like] Anchiornis huxleyi, triceratops, Lufengosaurs, T. rex, and Archaeopteryx. As you view the exciting scientific discoveries below in this chronological catalog, please feel free to listen to Real Science Radio co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart observe their annual tradition of presenting dinosaur soft tissue and other amazing discoveries including short-lived left-handed amino acids, DNA, and Carbon 14, all in bones and other specimens from dinosaur-layer Mesozoic and even deeper strata. And finally, as you probably know Ken (although Dan might be a bit slow on the uptake), and as first realized by Libby when he discovered carbon dating, if we can identify carbon 14 atoms that are actually a part of the collagen protein lattice, then they cannot be contamination, but have to be original 14c, which, when we document that in dinosaur protein, then everyone who is anti-science will tightly close their eyes, but everyone else will then have even more incontrovertible evidence that dinosaurs are young, all of them. And, when they lose the dinosaurs, they lose it all. Because dinosaurs have become missionary lizards. For dinosaur soft tissue means that the secular worldview is wrong, which leaves only one man standing, and that is Jesus Christ, who is God. Thanks for writing! - Bob Enyart co-hostRealScienceRadio.com 1-800-8Enyart rsr.org ---------- From: k Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:33 PM Subject: Re: 10 dogs To: Bob Enyart Hi Bob, Thanks very much for the reply! :-) Talk to you soon, ~ Ken
Kath Grey talks about the challenges and successes of her years devoted to using stromatolites to develop a Precambrian biostratigraphy for Australia.
Today, Josiah Alway of Campaign for Christ International explains to us why he doesn't believe in evolution. And it hinges on not doing the barest minimum amount of research.Sources:How do religious Americans see evolution? Depends how they're asked: https://pewrsr.ch/3jmgbXUSt. Augustine and Cosmology: https://bit.ly/3jq6nMJTransitional forms: http://bit.ly/2SjP2I2Transitional Fossils Are Not Rare: https://bit.ly/3ndEQitSolution to Darwin's dilemma: Discovery of the missing Precambrian record of life: https://bit.ly/3G9PWh9The Project Gutenberg eBook of On the Origin of Species, Sixth Edition by Charles Darwin: https://bit.ly/3jpY3MLEvolution will make our wisdom teeth disappear: https://bit.ly/3E7vtYHHumans are still evolving: 3 examples of recent adaptations: https://bit.ly/3nxRKZ5Experimental Demonstration of Violations of the Second Law of Thermodynamics for Small Systems and Short Time Scales: https://bit.ly/2Z4wvoZLife as a manifestation of the second law of thermodynamics: https://bit.ly/3z5Ket5Extraterrestrial ribose and other sugars in primitive meteorites: https://bit.ly/2XwRvnQEvolutionary origins of the blood vascular system and endothelium: https://bit.ly/3eNy2TJDe novo origins of multicellularity in response to predation: https://go.nature.com/2L85Gc3Evidences for Evolution: The Heart and Circulatory System of Vertebrates: https://bit.ly/2Zi9uiESumerian King List: https://bit.ly/2XJ4pzpLong Life Spans in Genesis: Literal or Symbolic?: https://bit.ly/3BoqBwBOriginal Video: https://bit.ly/3GbfDxIAll my various links can be found here:http://links.vicedrhino.com
Justin explores the Precambrian period: a kind of dark ages, spanning most of our planet's history, but about which we have very few fossil records. What we do know is that it contained two of the most important developments in evolution. One gave us a breathable atmosphere. The other made possible all the animals that now breathe it. The Natural History Museum's Imran Rahman introduces Justin to this strange bacterial world, while Aubrey Zerkle of the University of St Andrews explains why cyanobacteria may have been the greatest mass murderers in history.
(image source: https://prehistoric-life.fandom.com/wiki/Charnia) Host Matthew Donald and guest co-host Natasha Krech discuss Charnia, a very early animal that, yes, was an animal. I mean, not like a party animal or anything, although we did think it lived in groups. From the Ediacaran period, this 1-inch to 6-foot tall creature lived so long ago that I actually first learned the term "Ediacaran period" when researching for this episode. I always assumed before the Cambrian it was just "Precambrian"! Who knew you could learn stuff on this show?!
Episode 35 To close out another wonderful season, Season 3, we here at Geology on the Rocks decided to dive deep into all things about the geology of our home state, Texas. While we planned on talking about the specifics of North Texas, it evolved into a broader historical approach. Discussed is the evolution of the Lone Star State from the Precambrian times all the way through to the Cenozoic. The Texas we know and think of today, began as thick sequences of coarse sediment dumped into an ancient sea bordering Laurasia that was eventually buried, squeezed, and heated. Collisions with subsequent mobile belts eventually led to mountains forming, producing metamorphic schists and gneisses along with generating molten magma. The plutons cooled to form the granitic Llano Province around 1.3 to 1.1 billion years ago during the Mesoproterozoic. These Precambrian rocks are seen today in the Llano Uplift in central Texas and in the Franklin Mountains in west Texas. Throughout the Phanerozoic Eon, Texas saw a multitude of marine transgressions and regressions that led to most of Texas' history being submerged by shallow, epeiric seas. This undoubtedly led to the vast expanse of limestones and fossil assemblages we see throughout the state. We also see that during the Carboniferous Period Ouchita Mobile Belt is responsible for the distinctive S-shaped feature seen in geologic maps that spans across Texas. The Permian is responsible for a lot of the red bed formations we see up in the panhandle in the Quartermaster formation and the Dockum Group at Caprock Canyon State Park in Palo Duro Canyon. Near-shore evaporation flats produced deposits of bright red shales along with salt and gypsum deposits. As the supercontinent Pangaea began rifting apart, the Gulf of Mexico began opening allowing for sediment accommodation of the weathering of the uplifted Ouchita Mountains to the southeast. Early restriction of the gulf allowed for multiple evaporative phases that is represented by the famous Louann Salt deposits. During the Cretaceous, sandy shorelines and mudflats record the majestic presence of dinosaurs, most famously seen in the Paluxy River in Glen Rose. You name it, Texas probably has it, geologically speaking. Between the bars of our main discussion we bring to you another Mineral Minute and close things out with Leaves, Driving Slow Motion's latest single from their upcoming album. Sit back and enjoy the Geology of Texas in this final episode of the season! We look forward to starting anew sometime in late August. Until next time, be cool, stay tuned, and keep it on the rocks! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/geology-on-the-rocks/support
[While Bob & Cheryl Enyart go fishing we invite you to enjoy from the RSR archives our favorite List of Not So Old Things! Photos from today, June 25, 2021.] -- Finches Diversify in Decades, Opals Form in Months, Man's Genetic Diversity in 200 Generations, C-14 Everywhere: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams present their classic program that led to the audience-favorites rsr.org/list-shows! See below and hear on today's radio program our list of Not So Old and Not So Slow Things! From opals forming in months to man's genetic diversity in 200 generations, and with carbon 14 everywhere it's not supposed to be (including in diamonds and dinosaur bones!), scientific observations fill the guys' most traditional list challenging those who claim that the earth is billions of years old. Many of these scientific finds demand a re-evaluation of supposed million and billion-year ages. * Finches Adapt in 17 Years, Not 2.3 Million: Charles Darwin's finches are claimed to have taken 2,300,000 years to diversify from an initial species blown onto the Galapagos Islands. Yet individuals from a single finch species on a U.S. Bird Reservation in the Pacific were introduced to a group of small islands 300 miles away and in at most 17 years, like Darwin's finches, they had diversified their beaks, related muscles, and behavior to fill various ecological niches. Hear about this also at rsr.org/spetner. * Opals Can Form in "A Few Months" And Don't Need 100,000 Years: A leading authority on opals, Allan W. Eckert, observed that, "scientific papers and textbooks have told that the process of opal formation requires tens of thousands of years, perhaps hundreds of thousands... Not true." A 2011 peer-reviewed paper in a geology journal from Australia, where almost all the world's opal is found, reported on the: "new timetable for opal formation involving weeks to a few months and not the hundreds of thousands of years envisaged by the conventional weathering model." (And apparently, per a 2019 report from Entomology Today, opals can even form around insects!) More knowledgeable scientists resist the uncritical, group-think insistence on false super-slow formation rates (as also for manganese nodules, gold veins, stone, petroleum, canyons and gullies, and even guts, all below). Regarding opals, Darwinian bias led geologists to long ignore possible quick action, as from microbes, as a possible explanation for these mineraloids. For both in nature and in the lab, opals form rapidly, not even in 10,000 years, but in weeks. See this also from creationists by a geologist, a paleobiochemist, and a nuclear chemist. * Finches Speciate in Two Generations vs Two Million Years for Darwin's Birds? Darwin's finches on the Galapagos Islands are said to have diversified into 14 species over a period of two million years. But in 2017 the journal Science reported a newcomer to the Island which within two generations spawned a reproductively isolated new species. In another instance as documented by Lee Spetner, a hundred birds of the same finch species introduced to an island cluster a 1,000 kilometers from Galapagos diversified into species with the typical variations in beak sizes, etc. "If this diversification occurred in less than seventeen years," Dr. Spetner asks, "why did Darwin's Galapagos finches [as claimed by evolutionists] have to take two million years?" * Blue Eyes Originated Not So Long Ago: Not a million years ago, nor a hundred thousand years ago, but based on a peer-reviewed paper in Human Genetics, a press release at Science Daily reports that, "research shows that people with blue eyes have a single, common ancestor. A team at the University of Copenhagen have tracked down a genetic mutation which took place 6-10,000 years ago and is the cause of the eye colour of all blue-eyed humans alive on the planet today." * Adding the Entire Universe to our List of Not So Old Things? Based on March 2019 findings from Hubble, Nobel laureate Adam Riess of the Space Telescope Science Institute and his co-authors in the Astrophysical Journal estimate that the universe is about a billion years younger than previously thought! Then in September 2019 in the journal Science, the age dropped precipitiously to as low as 11.4 billion years! Of course, these measurements also further squeeze the canonical story of the big bang chronology with its many already existing problems including the insufficient time to "evolve" distant mature galaxies, galaxy clusters, superclusters, enormous black holes, filaments, bubbles, walls, and other superstructures. So, even though the latest estimates are still absurdly too old (Google: big bang predictions, and click on the #1 ranked article, or just go on over there to rsr.org/bb), regardless, we thought we'd plop the whole universe down on our List of Not So Old Things! * After the Soft Tissue Discoveries, NOW Dino DNA: When a North Carolina State University paleontologist took the Tyrannosaurus Rex photos to the right of original biological material, that led to the 2016 discovery of dinosaur DNA, So far researchers have also recovered dinosaur blood vessels, collagen, osteocytes, hemoglobin, red blood cells, and various proteins. As of May 2018, twenty-six scientific journals, including Nature, Science, PNAS, PLoS One, Bone, and Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, have confirmed the discovery of biomaterial fossils from many dinosaurs! Organisms including T. Rex, hadrosaur, titanosaur, triceratops, Lufengosaur, mosasaur, and Archaeopteryx, and many others dated, allegedly, even hundreds of millions of years old, have yielded their endogenous, still-soft biological material. See the web's most complete listing of 100+ journal papers (screenshot, left) announcing these discoveries at bflist.rsr.org and see it in layman's terms at rsr.org/soft. * Rapid Stalactites, Stalagmites, Etc.: A construction worker in 1954 left a lemonade bottle in one of Australia's famous Jenolan Caves. By 2011 it had been naturally transformed into a stalagmite (below, right). Increasing scientific knowledge is arguing for rapid cave formation (see below, Nat'l Park Service shrinks Carlsbad Caverns formation estimates from 260M years, to 10M, to 2M, to it "depends"). Likewise, examples are growing of rapid formations with typical chemical make-up (see bottle, left) of classic stalactites and stalagmites including:- in Nat'l Geo the Carlsbad Caverns stalagmite that rapidly covered a bat - the tunnel stalagmites at Tennessee's Raccoon Mountain - hundreds of stalactites beneath the Lincoln Memorial - those near Gladfelter Hall at Philadelphia's Temple University (send photos to Bob@rsr.org) - hundreds of stalactites at Australia's zinc mine at Mt. Isa. - and those beneath Melbourne's Shrine of Remembrance. * Most Human Mutations Arose in 200 Generations: From Adam until Real Science Radio, in only 200 generations! The journal Nature reports The Recent Origin of Most Human Protein-coding Variants. As summarized by geneticist co-author Joshua Akey, "Most of the mutations that we found arose in the last 200 generations or so" (the same number previously published by biblical creationists). Another 2012 paper, in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology (Eugenie Scott's own field) on High mitochondrial mutation rates, shows that one mitochondrial DNA mutation occurs every other generation, which, as creationists point out, indicates that mtEve would have lived about 200 generations ago. That's not so old! * National Geographic's Not-So-Old Hard-Rock Canyon at Mount St. Helens: As our List of Not So Old Things (this web page) reveals, by a kneejerk reaction evolutionary scientists assign ages of tens or hundreds of thousands of years (or at least just long enough to contradict Moses' chronology in Genesis.) However, with closer study, routinely, more and more old ages get revised downward to fit the world's growing scientific knowledge. So the trend is not that more information lengthens ages, but rather, as data replaces guesswork, ages tend to shrink until they are consistent with the young-earth biblical timeframe. Consistent with this observation, the May 2000 issue of National Geographic quotes the U.S. Forest Service's scientist at Mount St. Helens, Peter Frenzen, describing the canyon on the north side of the volcano. "You'd expect a hard-rock canyon to be thousands, even hundreds of thousands of years old. But this was cut in less than a decade." And as for the volcano itself, while again, the kneejerk reaction of old-earthers would be to claim that most geologic features are hundreds of thousands or millions of years old, the atheistic National Geographic magazine acknowledges from the evidence that Mount St. Helens, the volcanic mount, is only about 4,000 years old! See below and more at rsr.org/mount-st-helens. * Mount St. Helens Dome Ten Years Old not 1.7 Million: Geochron Laboratories of Cambridge, Mass., using potassium-argon and other radiometric techniques claims the rock sample they dated, from the volcano's dome, solidified somewhere between 340,000 and 2.8 million years ago. However photographic evidence and historical reports document the dome's formation during the 1980s, just ten years prior to the samples being collected. With the age of this rock known, radiometric dating therefore gets the age 99.99999% wrong. * Devils Hole Pupfish Isolated Not for 13,000 Years But for 100: Secular scientists default to knee-jerk, older-than-Bible-age dates. However, a tiny Mojave desert fish is having none of it. Rather than having been genetically isolated from other fish for 13,000 years (which would make this small school of fish older than the Earth itself), according to a paper in the journal Nature, actual measurements of mutation rates indicate that the genetic diversity of these Pupfish could have been generated in about 100 years, give or take a few. * Polystrates like Spines and Rare Schools of Fossilized Jellyfish: Previously, seven sedimentary layers in Wisconsin had been described as taking a million years to form. And because jellyfish have no skeleton, as Charles Darwin pointed out, it is rare to find them among fossils. But now, reported in the journal Geology, a school of jellyfish fossils have been found throughout those same seven layers. So, polystrate fossils that condense the time of strata deposition from eons to hours or months, include: - Jellyfish in central Wisconsin were not deposited and fossilized over a million years but during a single event quick enough to trap a whole school. (This fossil school, therefore, taken as a unit forms a polystrate fossil.) Examples are everywhere that falsify the claims of strata deposition over millions of years. - Countless trilobites buried in astounding three dimensionality around the world are meticulously recovered from limestone, much of which is claimed to have been deposited very slowly. Contrariwise, because these specimens were buried rapidly in quickly laid down sediments, they show no evidence of greater erosion on their upper parts as compared to their lower parts.- The delicacy of radiating spine polystrates, like tadpole and jellyfish fossils, especially clearly demonstrate the rapidity of such strata deposition. - A second school of jellyfish, even though they rarely fossilized, exists in another locale with jellyfish fossils in multiple layers, in Australia's Brockman Iron Formation, constraining there too the rate of strata deposition. By the way, jellyfish are an example of evolution's big squeeze. Like galaxies evolving too quickly, galaxy clusters, and even human feet (which, like Mummy DNA, challenge the Out of Africa paradigm), jellyfish have gotten into the act squeezing evolution's timeline, here by 200 million years when they were found in strata allegedly a half-a-billion years old. Other examples, ironically referred to as Medusoid Problematica, are even found in pre-Cambrian strata. - 171 tadpoles of the same species buried in diatoms. - Leaves buried vertically through single-celled diatoms powerfully refute the claimed super-slow deposition of diatomaceous rock. - Many fossils, including a Mesosaur, have been buried in multiple "varve" layers, which are claimed to be annual depositions, yet they show no erosional patterns that would indicate gradual burial (as they claim, absurdly, over even thousands of years). - A single whale skeleton preserved in California in dozens of layers of diatom deposits thus forming a polystrate fossil. - 40 whales buried in the desert in Chile. "What's really interesting is that this didn't just happen once," said Smithsonian evolutionist Dr. Nick Pyenson. It happened four times." Why's that? Because "the fossil site has at least four layers", to which Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart replies: "Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha", with RSR co-host Fred Williams thoughtfully adding, "Ha ha!" * Polystrate Trees: Examples abound around the world of polystrate trees: - Yellowstone's petrified polystrate forest (with the NPS exhibit sign removed; see below) with successive layers of rootless trees demonstrating the rapid deposition of fifty layers of strata. - A similarly formed polystrate fossil forest in France demonstrating the rapid deposition of a dozen strata. - In a thousand locations including famously the Fossil Cliffs of Joggins, Nova Scotia, polystrate fossils such as trees span many strata. - These trees lack erosion: Not only should such fossils, generally speaking, not even exist, but polystrates including trees typically show no evidence of erosion increasing with height. All of this powerfully disproves the claim that the layers were deposited slowly over thousands or millions of years. In the experience of your RSR radio hosts, evolutionists commonly respond to this hard evidence with mocking. See CRSQ June 2006, ICR Impact #316, and RSR 8-11-06 at KGOV.com. * Yellowstone Petrified Trees Sign Removed: The National Park Service removed their incorrect sign (see left and more). The NPS had claimed that in dozens of different strata over a 40-square mile area, many petrified trees were still standing where they had grown. The NPS eventually removed the sign partly because those petrified trees had no root systems, which they would have had if they had grown there. Instead, the trees of this "fossil forest" have roots that are abruptly broken off two or three feet from their trunks. If these mature trees actually had been remnants of sequential forests that had grown up in strata layer on top of strata layer, 27 times on Specimen Ridge (and 50 times at Specimen Creek), such a natural history implies passage of more time than permitted by biblical chronology. So, don't trust the National Park Service on historical science because they're wrong on the age of the Earth. * Wood Petrifies Quickly: Not surprisingly, by the common evolutionary knee-jerk claim of deep time, "several researchers believe that several millions of years are necessary for the complete formation of silicified wood". Our List of Not So Old and Not So Slow Things includes the work of five Japanese scientists who proved creationist research and published their results in the peer-reviewed journal Sedimentary Geology showing that wood can and does petrify rapidly. Modern wood significantly petrified in 36 years these researchers concluded that wood buried in strata could have been petrified in "a fairly short period of time, in the order of several tens to hundreds of years." * The Scablands: The primary surface features of the Scablands, which cover thousands of square miles of eastern Washington, were long believed to have formed gradually. Yet, against the determined claims of uniformitarian geologists, there is now overwhelming evidence as presented even in a NOVA TV program that the primary features of the Scablands formed rapidly from a catastrophic breach of Lake Missoula causing a massive regional flood. Of course evolutionary geologists still argue that the landscape was formed over tens of thousands of years, now by claiming there must have been a hundred Missoula floods. However, the evidence that there was Only One Lake Missoula Flood has been powerfully reinforced by a University of Colorado Ph.D. thesis. So the Scablands itself is no longer available to old-earthers as de facto evidence for the passage of millions of years. * The Heart Mountain Detachment: in Wyoming just east of Yellowstone, this mountain did not break apart slowly by uniformitarian processes but in only about half-an-hour as widely reported including in the evolutionist LiveScience.com, "Land Speed Record: Mountain Moves 62 Miles in 30 Minutes." The evidence indicates that this mountain of rock covering 425 square miles rapidly broke into 50 pieces and slid apart over an area of more than 1,300 square miles in a biblical, not a "geological," timeframe. * "150 Million" year-old Squid Ink Not Decomposed: This still-writable ink had dehydrated but had not decomposed! The British Geological Survey's Dr. Phil Wilby, who excavated the fossil, said, "It is difficult to imagine how you can have something as soft and sloppy as an ink sac fossilised in three dimensions, still black, and inside a rock that is 150 million years old." And the Daily Mail states that, "the black ink was of exactly the same structure as that of today's version", just desiccated. And Wilby added, "Normally you would find only the hard parts like the shell and bones fossilised but... these creatures... can be dissected as if they are living animals, you can see the muscle fibres and cells. It is difficult to imagine... The structure is similar to ink from a modern squid so we can write with it..." Why is this difficult for evolutionists to imagine? Because as Dr. Carl Wieland writes, "Chemical structures 'fall apart' all by themselves over time due to the randomizing effects of molecular motion." Decades ago Bob Enyart broadcast a geology program about Mount St. Helens' catastrophic destruction of forests and the hydraulic transportation and upright deposition of trees. Later, Bob met the chief ranger from Haleakala National Park on Hawaii's island of Maui, Mark Tanaka-Sanders. The ranger agreed to correspond with his colleague at Yellowstone to urge him to have the sign removed. Thankfully, it was then removed. (See also AIG, CMI, and all the original Yellowstone exhibit photos.) Groundbreaking research conducted by creation geologist Dr. Steve Austin in Spirit Lake after Mount St. Helens eruption provided a modern-day analog to the formation of Yellowstone fossil forest. A steam blast from that volcano blew over tens of thousands of trees leaving them without attached roots. Many thousands of those trees were floating upright in Spirit Lake, and began sinking at varying rates into rapidly and sporadically deposited sediments. Once Yellowstone's successive forest interpretation was falsified (though like with junk DNA, it's too big to fail, so many atheists and others still cling to it), the erroneous sign was removed. * Asiatic vs. European Honeybees: These two populations of bees have been separated supposedly for seven million years. A researcher decided to put the two together to see what would happen. What we should have here is a failure to communicate that would have resulted after their "language" evolved over millions of years. However, European and Asiatic honeybees are still able to communicate, putting into doubt the evolutionary claim that they were separated over "geologic periods." For more, see the Public Library of Science, Asiatic Honeybees Can Understand Dance Language of European Honeybees. (Oh yeah, and why don't fossils of poorly-formed honeycombs exist, from the millions of years before the bees and natural selection finally got the design right? Ha! Because they don't exist! :) Nautiloid proves rapid limestone formation. * Remember the Nautiloids: In the Grand Canyon there is a limestone layer averaging seven feet thick that runs the 277 miles of the canyon (and beyond) that covers hundreds of square miles and contains an average of one nautiloid fossil per square meter. Along with many other dead creatures in this one particular layer, 15% of these nautiloids were killed and then fossilized standing on their heads. Yes, vertically. They were caught in such an intense and rapid catastrophic flow that gravity was not able to cause all of their dead carcasses to fall over on their sides. Famed Mount St. Helens geologist Steve Austin is also the world's leading expert on nautiloid fossils and has worked in the canyon and presented his findings to the park's rangers at the invitation of National Park Service officials. Austin points out, as is true of many of the world's mass fossil graveyards, that this enormous nautiloid deposition provides indisputable proof of the extremely rapid formation of a significant layer of limestone near the bottom of the canyon, a layer like the others we've been told about, that allegedly formed at the bottom of a calm and placid sea with slow and gradual sedimentation. But a million nautiloids, standing on their heads, literally, would beg to differ. At our sister stie, RSR provides the relevant Geologic Society of America abstract, links, and video. * Now It's Allegedly Two Million Year-Old Leaves: "When we started pulling leaves out of the soil, that was surreal, to know that it's millions of years old..." sur-re-al: adjective: a bizarre mix of fact and fantasy. In this case, the leaves are the facts. Earth scientists from Ohio State and the University of Minnesota say that wood and leaves they found in the Canadian Arctic are at least two million years old, and perhaps more than ten million years old, even though the leaves are just dry and crumbly and the wood still burns! * Gold Precipitates in Veins in Less than a Second: After geologists submitted for decades to the assumption that each layer of gold would deposit at the alleged super slow rates of geologic process, the journal Nature Geoscience reports that each layer of deposition can occur within a few tenths of a second. Meanwhile, at the Lihir gold deposit in Papua New Guinea, evolutionists assumed the more than 20 million ounces of gold in the Lihir reserve took millions of years to deposit, but as reported in the journal Science, geologists can now demonstrate that the deposit could have formed in thousands of years, or far more quickly! Iceland's not-so-old Surtsey Island looks ancient. * Surtsey Island, Iceland: Of the volcanic island that formed in 1963, New Scientist reported in 2007 about Surtsey that "geographers... marvel that canyons, gullies and other land features that typically take tens of thousands or millions of years to form were created in less than a decade." Yes. And Sigurdur Thorarinsson, Iceland's chief geologist, wrote in the months after Surtsey formed, "that the time scale," he had been trained "to attach to geological developments is misleading." [For what is said to] take thousands of years... the same development may take a few weeks or even days here [including to form] a landscape... so varied and mature that it was almost beyond belief... wide sandy beaches and precipitous crags... gravel banks and lagoons, impressive cliffs… hollows, glens and soft undulating land... fractures and faultscarps, channels and screes… confounded by what met your eye... boulders worn by the surf, some of which were almost round... -Iceland's chief geologist * The Palouse River Gorge: In the southeast of Washington State, the Palouse River Gorge is one of many features formed rapidly by 500 cubic miles of water catastrophically released with the breaching of a natural dam in the Lake Missoula Flood (which gouged out the Scablands as described above). So, hard rock can be breached and eroded rapidly. * Leaf Shapes Identical for 190 Million Years? From Berkley.edu, "Ginkgo biloba... dates back to... about 190 million years ago... fossilized leaf material from the Tertiary species Ginkgo adiantoides is considered similar or even identical to that produced by modern Ginkgo biloba trees... virtually indistinguishable..." The literature describes leaf shapes as "spectacularly diverse" sometimes within a species but especially across the plant kingdom. Because all kinds of plants survive with all kinds of different leaf shapes, the conservation of a species retaining a single shape over alleged deep time is a telling issue. Darwin's theory is undermined by the unchanging shape over millions of years of a species' leaf shape. This lack of change, stasis in what should be an easily morphable plant trait, supports the broader conclusion that chimp-like creatures did not become human beings and all the other ambitious evolutionary creation of new kinds are simply imagined. (Ginkgo adiantoides and biloba are actually the same species. Wikipedia states, "It is doubtful whether the Northern Hemisphere fossil species of Ginkgo can be reliably distinguished." For oftentimes, as documented by Dr. Carl Werner in his Evolution: The Grand Experiment series, paleontogists falsely speciate identical specimens, giving different species names, even different genus names, to the fossil and living animals that appear identical.) * Box Canyon, Idaho: Geologists now think Box Canyon in Idaho, USA, was carved by a catastrophic flood and not slowly over millions of years with 1) huge plunge pools formed by waterfalls; 2) the almost complete removal of large basalt boulders from the canyon; 3) an eroded notch on the plateau at the top of the canyon; and 4) water scour marks on the basalt plateau leading to the canyon. Scientists calculate that the flood was so large that it could have eroded the whole canyon in as little as 35 days. See the journal Science, Formation of Box Canyon, Idaho, by Megaflood, and the Journal of Creation, and Creation Magazine. * Manganese Nodules Rapid Formation: Allegedly, as claimed at the Wikipedia entry from 2005 through 2021: "Nodule growth is one of the slowest of all geological phenomena – in the order of a centimeter over several million years." Wow, that would be slow! And a Texas A&M Marine Sciences technical slide presentation says, “They grow very slowly (mm/million years) and can be tens of millions of years old.” But according to a World Almanac documentary they have formed "around beer cans," said marine geologist Dr. John Yates in the 1997 video Universe Beneath the Sea: The Next Frontier. There are also reports of manganese nodules forming around ships sunk in the First World War. See more at at youngearth.com, at TOL, in the print edition of the Journal of Creation, and in this typical forum discussion with atheists (at the Chicago Cubs forum no less :). * "6,000 year-old" Mitochondrial Eve: As the Bible calls "Eve... the mother of all living" (Gen. 3:20), genetic researchers have named the one woman from whom all humans have descended "Mitochondrial Eve." But in a scientific attempt to date her existence, they openly admit that they included chimpanzee DNA in their analysis in order to get what they viewed as a reasonably old date of 200,000 years ago (which is still surprisingly recent from their perspective, but old enough not to strain Darwinian theory too much). But then as widely reported including by Science magazine, when they dropped the chimp data and used only actual human mutation rates, that process determined that Eve lived only six thousand years ago! In Ann Gibbon's Science article, "Calibrating the Mitochondrial Clock," rather than again using circular reasoning by assuming their conclusion (that humans evolved from ape-like creatures), they performed their calculations using actual measured mutation rates. This peer-reviewed journal then reported that if these rates have been constant, "mitochondrial Eve… would be a mere 6000 years old." See also the journal Nature and creation.com's "A shrinking date for Eve," and Walt Brown's assessment. Expectedly though, evolutionists have found a way to reject their own unbiased finding (the conclusion contrary to their self-interest) by returning to their original method of using circular reasoning, as reported in the American Journal of Human Genetics, "calibrating against recent evidence for the divergence time of humans and chimpanzees," to reset their mitochondrial clock back to 200,000 years. * Even Younger Y-Chromosomal Adam: (Although he should be called, "Y-Chromosomal Noah.") While we inherit our mtDNA only from our mothers, only men have a Y chromosome (which incidentally genetically disproves the cla
[While Bob & Cheryl Enyart go fishing we invite you to enjoy from the RSR archives our favorite List of Not So Old Things! Photos from today, June 25, 2021.] -- Finches Diversify in Decades, Opals Form in Months, Man's Genetic Diversity in 200 Generations, C-14 Everywhere: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams present their classic program that led to the audience-favorites rsr.org/list-shows! See below and hear on today's radio program our list of Not So Old and Not So Slow Things! From opals forming in months to man's genetic diversity in 200 generations, and with carbon 14 everywhere it's not supposed to be (including in diamonds and dinosaur bones!), scientific observations fill the guys' most traditional list challenging those who claim that the earth is billions of years old. Many of these scientific finds demand a re-evaluation of supposed million and billion-year ages. * Finches Adapt in 17 Years, Not 2.3 Million: Charles Darwin's finches are claimed to have taken 2,300,000 years to diversify from an initial species blown onto the Galapagos Islands. Yet individuals from a single finch species on a U.S. Bird Reservation in the Pacific were introduced to a group of small islands 300 miles away and in at most 17 years, like Darwin's finches, they had diversified their beaks, related muscles, and behavior to fill various ecological niches. Hear about this also at rsr.org/spetner. * Opals Can Form in "A Few Months" And Don't Need 100,000 Years: A leading authority on opals, Allan W. Eckert, observed that, "scientific papers and textbooks have told that the process of opal formation requires tens of thousands of years, perhaps hundreds of thousands... Not true." A 2011 peer-reviewed paper in a geology journal from Australia, where almost all the world's opal is found, reported on the: "new timetable for opal formation involving weeks to a few months and not the hundreds of thousands of years envisaged by the conventional weathering model." (And apparently, per a 2019 report from Entomology Today, opals can even form around insects!) More knowledgeable scientists resist the uncritical, group-think insistence on false super-slow formation rates (as also for manganese nodules, gold veins, stone, petroleum, canyons and gullies, and even guts, all below). Regarding opals, Darwinian bias led geologists to long ignore possible quick action, as from microbes, as a possible explanation for these mineraloids. For both in nature and in the lab, opals form rapidly, not even in 10,000 years, but in weeks. See this also from creationists by a geologist, a paleobiochemist, and a nuclear chemist. * Finches Speciate in Two Generations vs Two Million Years for Darwin's Birds? Darwin's finches on the Galapagos Islands are said to have diversified into 14 species over a period of two million years. But in 2017 the journal Science reported a newcomer to the Island which within two generations spawned a reproductively isolated new species. In another instance as documented by Lee Spetner, a hundred birds of the same finch species introduced to an island cluster a 1,000 kilometers from Galapagos diversified into species with the typical variations in beak sizes, etc. "If this diversification occurred in less than seventeen years," Dr. Spetner asks, "why did Darwin's Galapagos finches [as claimed by evolutionists] have to take two million years?" * Blue Eyes Originated Not So Long Ago: Not a million years ago, nor a hundred thousand years ago, but based on a peer-reviewed paper in Human Genetics, a press release at Science Daily reports that, "research shows that people with blue eyes have a single, common ancestor. A team at the University of Copenhagen have tracked down a genetic mutation which took place 6-10,000 years ago and is the cause of the eye colour of all blue-eyed humans alive on the planet today." * Adding the Entire Universe to our List of Not So Old Things? Based on March 2019 findings from Hubble, Nobel laureate Adam Riess of the Space Telescope Science Institute and his co-authors in the Astrophysical Journal estimate that the universe is about a billion years younger than previously thought! Then in September 2019 in the journal Science, the age dropped precipitiously to as low as 11.4 billion years! Of course, these measurements also further squeeze the canonical story of the big bang chronology with its many already existing problems including the insufficient time to "evolve" distant mature galaxies, galaxy clusters, superclusters, enormous black holes, filaments, bubbles, walls, and other superstructures. So, even though the latest estimates are still absurdly too old (Google: big bang predictions, and click on the #1 ranked article, or just go on over there to rsr.org/bb), regardless, we thought we'd plop the whole universe down on our List of Not So Old Things! * After the Soft Tissue Discoveries, NOW Dino DNA: When a North Carolina State University paleontologist took the Tyrannosaurus Rex photos to the right of original biological material, that led to the 2016 discovery of dinosaur DNA, So far researchers have also recovered dinosaur blood vessels, collagen, osteocytes, hemoglobin, red blood cells, and various proteins. As of May 2018, twenty-six scientific journals, including Nature, Science, PNAS, PLoS One, Bone, and Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, have confirmed the discovery of biomaterial fossils from many dinosaurs! Organisms including T. Rex, hadrosaur, titanosaur, triceratops, Lufengosaur, mosasaur, and Archaeopteryx, and many others dated, allegedly, even hundreds of millions of years old, have yielded their endogenous, still-soft biological material. See the web's most complete listing of 100+ journal papers (screenshot, left) announcing these discoveries at bflist.rsr.org and see it in layman's terms at rsr.org/soft. * Rapid Stalactites, Stalagmites, Etc.: A construction worker in 1954 left a lemonade bottle in one of Australia's famous Jenolan Caves. By 2011 it had been naturally transformed into a stalagmite (below, right). Increasing scientific knowledge is arguing for rapid cave formation (see below, Nat'l Park Service shrinks Carlsbad Caverns formation estimates from 260M years, to 10M, to 2M, to it "depends"). Likewise, examples are growing of rapid formations with typical chemical make-up (see bottle, left) of classic stalactites and stalagmites including:- in Nat'l Geo the Carlsbad Caverns stalagmite that rapidly covered a bat - the tunnel stalagmites at Tennessee's Raccoon Mountain - hundreds of stalactites beneath the Lincoln Memorial - those near Gladfelter Hall at Philadelphia's Temple University (send photos to Bob@rsr.org) - hundreds of stalactites at Australia's zinc mine at Mt. Isa. - and those beneath Melbourne's Shrine of Remembrance. * Most Human Mutations Arose in 200 Generations: From Adam until Real Science Radio, in only 200 generations! The journal Nature reports The Recent Origin of Most Human Protein-coding Variants. As summarized by geneticist co-author Joshua Akey, "Most of the mutations that we found arose in the last 200 generations or so" (the same number previously published by biblical creationists). Another 2012 paper, in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology (Eugenie Scott's own field) on High mitochondrial mutation rates, shows that one mitochondrial DNA mutation occurs every other generation, which, as creationists point out, indicates that mtEve would have lived about 200 generations ago. That's not so old! * National Geographic's Not-So-Old Hard-Rock Canyon at Mount St. Helens: As our List of Not So Old Things (this web page) reveals, by a kneejerk reaction evolutionary scientists assign ages of tens or hundreds of thousands of years (or at least just long enough to contradict Moses' chronology in Genesis.) However, with closer study, routinely, more and more old ages get revised downward to fit the world's growing scientific knowledge. So the trend is not that more information lengthens ages, but rather, as data replaces guesswork, ages tend to shrink until they are consistent with the young-earth biblical timeframe. Consistent with this observation, the May 2000 issue of National Geographic quotes the U.S. Forest Service's scientist at Mount St. Helens, Peter Frenzen, describing the canyon on the north side of the volcano. "You'd expect a hard-rock canyon to be thousands, even hundreds of thousands of years old. But this was cut in less than a decade." And as for the volcano itself, while again, the kneejerk reaction of old-earthers would be to claim that most geologic features are hundreds of thousands or millions of years old, the atheistic National Geographic magazine acknowledges from the evidence that Mount St. Helens, the volcanic mount, is only about 4,000 years old! See below and more at rsr.org/mount-st-helens. * Mount St. Helens Dome Ten Years Old not 1.7 Million: Geochron Laboratories of Cambridge, Mass., using potassium-argon and other radiometric techniques claims the rock sample they dated, from the volcano's dome, solidified somewhere between 340,000 and 2.8 million years ago. However photographic evidence and historical reports document the dome's formation during the 1980s, just ten years prior to the samples being collected. With the age of this rock known, radiometric dating therefore gets the age 99.99999% wrong. * Devils Hole Pupfish Isolated Not for 13,000 Years But for 100: Secular scientists default to knee-jerk, older-than-Bible-age dates. However, a tiny Mojave desert fish is having none of it. Rather than having been genetically isolated from other fish for 13,000 years (which would make this small school of fish older than the Earth itself), according to a paper in the journal Nature, actual measurements of mutation rates indicate that the genetic diversity of these Pupfish could have been generated in about 100 years, give or take a few. * Polystrates like Spines and Rare Schools of Fossilized Jellyfish: Previously, seven sedimentary layers in Wisconsin had been described as taking a million years to form. And because jellyfish have no skeleton, as Charles Darwin pointed out, it is rare to find them among fossils. But now, reported in the journal Geology, a school of jellyfish fossils have been found throughout those same seven layers. So, polystrate fossils that condense the time of strata deposition from eons to hours or months, include: - Jellyfish in central Wisconsin were not deposited and fossilized over a million years but during a single event quick enough to trap a whole school. (This fossil school, therefore, taken as a unit forms a polystrate fossil.) Examples are everywhere that falsify the claims of strata deposition over millions of years. - Countless trilobites buried in astounding three dimensionality around the world are meticulously recovered from limestone, much of which is claimed to have been deposited very slowly. Contrariwise, because these specimens were buried rapidly in quickly laid down sediments, they show no evidence of greater erosion on their upper parts as compared to their lower parts.- The delicacy of radiating spine polystrates, like tadpole and jellyfish fossils, especially clearly demonstrate the rapidity of such strata deposition. - A second school of jellyfish, even though they rarely fossilized, exists in another locale with jellyfish fossils in multiple layers, in Australia's Brockman Iron Formation, constraining there too the rate of strata deposition. By the way, jellyfish are an example of evolution's big squeeze. Like galaxies evolving too quickly, galaxy clusters, and even human feet (which, like Mummy DNA, challenge the Out of Africa paradigm), jellyfish have gotten into the act squeezing evolution's timeline, here by 200 million years when they were found in strata allegedly a half-a-billion years old. Other examples, ironically referred to as Medusoid Problematica, are even found in pre-Cambrian strata. - 171 tadpoles of the same species buried in diatoms. - Leaves buried vertically through single-celled diatoms powerfully refute the claimed super-slow deposition of diatomaceous rock. - Many fossils, including a Mesosaur, have been buried in multiple "varve" layers, which are claimed to be annual depositions, yet they show no erosional patterns that would indicate gradual burial (as they claim, absurdly, over even thousands of years). - A single whale skeleton preserved in California in dozens of layers of diatom deposits thus forming a polystrate fossil. - 40 whales buried in the desert in Chile. "What's really interesting is that this didn't just happen once," said Smithsonian evolutionist Dr. Nick Pyenson. It happened four times." Why's that? Because "the fossil site has at least four layers", to which Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart replies: "Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha", with RSR co-host Fred Williams thoughtfully adding, "Ha ha!" * Polystrate Trees: Examples abound around the world of polystrate trees: - Yellowstone's petrified polystrate forest (with the NPS exhibit sign removed; see below) with successive layers of rootless trees demonstrating the rapid deposition of fifty layers of strata. - A similarly formed polystrate fossil forest in France demonstrating the rapid deposition of a dozen strata. - In a thousand locations including famously the Fossil Cliffs of Joggins, Nova Scotia, polystrate fossils such as trees span many strata. - These trees lack erosion: Not only should such fossils, generally speaking, not even exist, but polystrates including trees typically show no evidence of erosion increasing with height. All of this powerfully disproves the claim that the layers were deposited slowly over thousands or millions of years. In the experience of your RSR radio hosts, evolutionists commonly respond to this hard evidence with mocking. See CRSQ June 2006, ICR Impact #316, and RSR 8-11-06 at KGOV.com. * Yellowstone Petrified Trees Sign Removed: The National Park Service removed their incorrect sign (see left and more). The NPS had claimed that in dozens of different strata over a 40-square mile area, many petrified trees were still standing where they had grown. The NPS eventually removed the sign partly because those petrified trees had no root systems, which they would have had if they had grown there. Instead, the trees of this "fossil forest" have roots that are abruptly broken off two or three feet from their trunks. If these mature trees actually had been remnants of sequential forests that had grown up in strata layer on top of strata layer, 27 times on Specimen Ridge (and 50 times at Specimen Creek), such a natural history implies passage of more time than permitted by biblical chronology. So, don't trust the National Park Service on historical science because they're wrong on the age of the Earth. * Wood Petrifies Quickly: Not surprisingly, by the common evolutionary knee-jerk claim of deep time, "several researchers believe that several millions of years are necessary for the complete formation of silicified wood". Our List of Not So Old and Not So Slow Things includes the work of five Japanese scientists who proved creationist research and published their results in the peer-reviewed journal Sedimentary Geology showing that wood can and does petrify rapidly. Modern wood significantly petrified in 36 years these researchers concluded that wood buried in strata could have been petrified in "a fairly short period of time, in the order of several tens to hundreds of years." * The Scablands: The primary surface features of the Scablands, which cover thousands of square miles of eastern Washington, were long believed to have formed gradually. Yet, against the determined claims of uniformitarian geologists, there is now overwhelming evidence as presented even in a NOVA TV program that the primary features of the Scablands formed rapidly from a catastrophic breach of Lake Missoula causing a massive regional flood. Of course evolutionary geologists still argue that the landscape was formed over tens of thousands of years, now by claiming there must have been a hundred Missoula floods. However, the evidence that there was Only One Lake Missoula Flood has been powerfully reinforced by a University of Colorado Ph.D. thesis. So the Scablands itself is no longer available to old-earthers as de facto evidence for the passage of millions of years. * The Heart Mountain Detachment: in Wyoming just east of Yellowstone, this mountain did not break apart slowly by uniformitarian processes but in only about half-an-hour as widely reported including in the evolutionist LiveScience.com, "Land Speed Record: Mountain Moves 62 Miles in 30 Minutes." The evidence indicates that this mountain of rock covering 425 square miles rapidly broke into 50 pieces and slid apart over an area of more than 1,300 square miles in a biblical, not a "geological," timeframe. * "150 Million" year-old Squid Ink Not Decomposed: This still-writable ink had dehydrated but had not decomposed! The British Geological Survey's Dr. Phil Wilby, who excavated the fossil, said, "It is difficult to imagine how you can have something as soft and sloppy as an ink sac fossilised in three dimensions, still black, and inside a rock that is 150 million years old." And the Daily Mail states that, "the black ink was of exactly the same structure as that of today's version", just desiccated. And Wilby added, "Normally you would find only the hard parts like the shell and bones fossilised but... these creatures... can be dissected as if they are living animals, you can see the muscle fibres and cells. It is difficult to imagine... The structure is similar to ink from a modern squid so we can write with it..." Why is this difficult for evolutionists to imagine? Because as Dr. Carl Wieland writes, "Chemical structures 'fall apart' all by themselves over time due to the randomizing effects of molecular motion." Decades ago Bob Enyart broadcast a geology program about Mount St. Helens' catastrophic destruction of forests and the hydraulic transportation and upright deposition of trees. Later, Bob met the chief ranger from Haleakala National Park on Hawaii's island of Maui, Mark Tanaka-Sanders. The ranger agreed to correspond with his colleague at Yellowstone to urge him to have the sign removed. Thankfully, it was then removed. (See also AIG, CMI, and all the original Yellowstone exhibit photos.) Groundbreaking research conducted by creation geologist Dr. Steve Austin in Spirit Lake after Mount St. Helens eruption provided a modern-day analog to the formation of Yellowstone fossil forest. A steam blast from that volcano blew over tens of thousands of trees leaving them without attached roots. Many thousands of those trees were floating upright in Spirit Lake, and began sinking at varying rates into rapidly and sporadically deposited sediments. Once Yellowstone's successive forest interpretation was falsified (though like with junk DNA, it's too big to fail, so many atheists and others still cling to it), the erroneous sign was removed. * Asiatic vs. European Honeybees: These two populations of bees have been separated supposedly for seven million years. A researcher decided to put the two together to see what would happen. What we should have here is a failure to communicate that would have resulted after their "language" evolved over millions of years. However, European and Asiatic honeybees are still able to communicate, putting into doubt the evolutionary claim that they were separated over "geologic periods." For more, see the Public Library of Science, Asiatic Honeybees Can Understand Dance Language of European Honeybees. (Oh yeah, and why don't fossils of poorly-formed honeycombs exist, from the millions of years before the bees and natural selection finally got the design right? Ha! Because they don't exist! :) Nautiloid proves rapid limestone formation.* Remember the Nautiloids: In the Grand Canyon there is a limestone layer averaging seven feet thick that runs the 277 miles of the canyon (and beyond) that covers hundreds of square miles and contains an average of one nautiloid fossil per square meter. Along with many other dead creatures in this one particular layer, 15% of these nautiloids were killed and then fossilized standing on their heads. Yes, vertically. They were caught in such an intense and rapid catastrophic flow that gravity was not able to cause all of their dead carcasses to fall over on their sides. Famed Mount St. Helens geologist Steve Austin is also the world's leading expert on nautiloid fossils and has worked in the canyon and presented his findings to the park's rangers at the invitation of National Park Service officials. Austin points out, as is true of many of the world's mass fossil graveyards, that this enormous nautiloid deposition provides indisputable proof of the extremely rapid formation of a significant layer of limestone near the bottom of the canyon, a layer like the others we've been told about, that allegedly formed at the bottom of a calm and placid sea with slow and gradual sedimentation. But a million nautiloids, standing on their heads, literally, would beg to differ. At our sister stie, RSR provides the relevant Geologic Society of America abstract, links, and video. * Now It's Allegedly Two Million Year-Old Leaves: "When we started pulling leaves out of the soil, that was surreal, to know that it's millions of years old..." sur-re-al: adjective: a bizarre mix of fact and fantasy. In this case, the leaves are the facts. Earth scientists from Ohio State and the University of Minnesota say that wood and leaves they found in the Canadian Arctic are at least two million years old, and perhaps more than ten million years old, even though the leaves are just dry and crumbly and the wood still burns! * Gold Precipitates in Veins in Less than a Second: After geologists submitted for decades to the assumption that each layer of gold would deposit at the alleged super slow rates of geologic process, the journal Nature Geoscience reports that each layer of deposition can occur within a few tenths of a second. Meanwhile, at the Lihir gold deposit in Papua New Guinea, evolutionists assumed the more than 20 million ounces of gold in the Lihir reserve took millions of years to deposit, but as reported in the journal Science, geologists can now demonstrate that the deposit could have formed in thousands of years, or far more quickly! Iceland's not-so-old Surtsey Island looks ancient.* Surtsey Island, Iceland: Of the volcanic island that formed in 1963, New Scientist reported in 2007 about Surtsey that "geographers... marvel that canyons, gullies and other land features that typically take tens of thousands or millions of years to form were created in less than a decade." Yes. And Sigurdur Thorarinsson, Iceland's chief geologist, wrote in the months after Surtsey formed, "that the time scale," he had been trained "to attach to geological developments is misleading." [For what is said to] take thousands of years... the same development may take a few weeks or even days here [including to form] a landscape... so varied and mature that it was almost beyond belief... wide sandy beaches and precipitous crags... gravel banks and lagoons, impressive cliffs… hollows, glens and soft undulating land... fractures and faultscarps, channels and screes… confounded by what met your eye... boulders worn by the surf, some of which were almost round... -Iceland's chief geologist * The Palouse River Gorge: In the southeast of Washington State, the Palouse River Gorge is one of many features formed rapidly by 500 cubic miles of water catastrophically released with the breaching of a natural dam in the Lake Missoula Flood (which gouged out the Scablands as described above). So, hard rock can be breached and eroded rapidly. * Leaf Shapes Identical for 190 Million Years? From Berkley.edu, "Ginkgo biloba... dates back to... about 190 million years ago... fossilized leaf material from the Tertiary species Ginkgo adiantoides is considered similar or even identical to that produced by modern Ginkgo biloba trees... virtually indistinguishable..." The literature describes leaf shapes as "spectacularly diverse" sometimes within a species but especially across the plant kingdom. Because all kinds of plants survive with all kinds of different leaf shapes, the conservation of a species retaining a single shape over alleged deep time is a telling issue. Darwin's theory is undermined by the unchanging shape over millions of years of a species' leaf shape. This lack of change, stasis in what should be an easily morphable plant trait, supports the broader conclusion that chimp-like creatures did not become human beings and all the other ambitious evolutionary creation of new kinds are simply imagined. (Ginkgo adiantoides and biloba are actually the same species. Wikipedia states, "It is doubtful whether the Northern Hemisphere fossil species of Ginkgo can be reliably distinguished." For oftentimes, as documented by Dr. Carl Werner in his Evolution: The Grand Experiment series, paleontogists falsely speciate identical specimens, giving different species names, even different genus names, to the fossil and living animals that appear identical.) * Box Canyon, Idaho: Geologists now think Box Canyon in Idaho, USA, was carved by a catastrophic flood and not slowly over millions of years with 1) huge plunge pools formed by waterfalls; 2) the almost complete removal of large basalt boulders from the canyon; 3) an eroded notch on the plateau at the top of the canyon; and 4) water scour marks on the basalt plateau leading to the canyon. Scientists calculate that the flood was so large that it could have eroded the whole canyon in as little as 35 days. See the journal Science, Formation of Box Canyon, Idaho, by Megaflood, and the Journal of Creation, and Creation Magazine. * Manganese Nodules Rapid Formation: Allegedly, as claimed at the Wikipedia entry from 2005 through 2021: "Nodule growth is one of the slowest of all geological phenomena – in the order of a centimeter over several million years." Wow, that would be slow! And a Texas A&M Marine Sciences technical slide presentation says, “They grow very slowly (mm/million years) and can be tens of millions of years old.” But according to a World Almanac documentary they have formed "around beer cans," said marine geologist Dr. John Yates in the 1997 video Universe Beneath the Sea: The Next Frontier. There are also reports of manganese nodules forming around ships sunk in the First World War. See more at at youngearth.com, at TOL, in the print edition of the Journal of Creation, and in this typical forum discussion with atheists (at the Chicago Cubs forum no less :). * "6,000 year-old" Mitochondrial Eve: As the Bible calls "Eve... the mother of all living" (Gen. 3:20), genetic researchers have named the one woman from whom all humans have descended "Mitochondrial Eve." But in a scientific attempt to date her existence, they openly admit that they included chimpanzee DNA in their analysis in order to get what they viewed as a reasonably old date of 200,000 years ago (which is still surprisingly recent from their perspective, but old enough not to strain Darwinian theory too much). But then as widely reported including by Science magazine, when they dropped the chimp data and used only actual human mutation rates, that process determined that Eve lived only six thousand years ago! In Ann Gibbon's Science article, "Calibrating the Mitochondrial Clock," rather than again using circular reasoning by assuming their conclusion (that humans evolved from ape-like creatures), they performed their calculations using actual measured mutation rates. This peer-reviewed journal then reported that if these rates have been constant, "mitochondrial Eve… would be a mere 6000 years old." See also the journal Nature and creation.com's "A shrinking date for Eve," and Walt Brown's assessment. Expectedly though, evolutionists have found a way to reject their own unbiased finding (the conclusion contrary to their self-interest) by returning to their original method of using circular reasoning, as reported in the American Journal of Human Genetics, "calibrating against recent evidence for the divergence time of humans and chimpanzees," to reset their mitochondrial clock back to 200,000 years. * Even Younger Y-Chromosomal Adam: (Although he should be called, "Y-Chromosomal Noah.") While we inherit our mtDNA only from our mothers, only men have a Y chromosome (which incidentally genetically disproves the claim that the fetus is "part of the woman's body," since the little boy's y chromosome could never be part of mom's body). Based on documented mutation rates on and the extraordinary lack o
The Flannelcasters talk about the snowball Earth hypothesis, where the Earth froze over several times at the end of Precambrian time.
Metalheads! For this month's discography blast, we spin four albums by the Ocean Collective; Precambrian (2007), Heliocentric (2010), Anthropocentric (2010), and Pelagial (2013). Tracey loves these Berliner's combination of intricate music and scientifically based lyrics. What will David & Ben think? Tune in and see!
פודקאסט מספר 404 . . . ואוו, אנחנו ב-400-ים, וזה Not Found 404 . . . כן, הולכת להיות לנו כאן סדרה ארוכה ומתישה של 400-ים . . . אז - פרק מספר 404 של רברס עם פלטפורמה! התאריך היום הוא התשיעי במרץ אלפיים-ו . . . בפעם שעברה אמרתי 2001, לא? (אורי) 2021, אם זכרוני אינו מטעני . . . (רן) 2021 - ואנחנו, כרגיל, באולפנינו הקט אשר בכרכור, מולי נמצא אורי - (אורי) אהלן, וזה שבוע האישה הבינלאומי, אגב - (רן) שבוע שמח! ושלום טל מחברת Armis - ברוכה הבא!טל רביד באה לדבר איתנו על Security ובאופן יותר ספציפי על Network Protocols ו-Security, ולפני שנצלול לעסק - ספרי לנו טל: מי את, מניין באת ולאן את הולכת?(טל) אז אני טל רביד, כמו שציינתם, בת 32 מתל אביב - במקור מרחובות, אבל אני חושבת שתל אביב השפיעה עלי מספיק בשביל לקרוא לעצמי “תל אביבית” כבר.בשלוש וחצי השנים האחרונות אני עובדת ב-Armis - סטארטאפ בתחום ה-Security שתיכף נרחיב עליו.לפני זה הייתי במגוון רחב של תחומים - במקור מ-8200, יש לי 7 שנים בערך בקהילת המודיעין, כשצוברים כל מיני סוגי ידע שמתקשר באופן כזה או אחר לסייבראחרי כמה פרקי קריירה בתחומים שונים חזרתי קצת לעולמות של סייבר, ובשנים האחרונות בעצם הקמתי את התחום של הדאטה ב-Armis, שאצלנו הוא כולל ממש היכרות עם ה-Knowledge base של החברה, עם כל הדאטה והלוגיקות.ובין השאר גם עם חוקים שקשורים ל-Security ול-Network Protocols.(רן) מעולה - אז אני מניח שלא מעט מהמאזינים שלנו מכירים את Armis, אבל לאלה שלא, ספרי לנו קצת מי זו Armis? מה אתם עושים שם?(טל) אז Armis קיימת כבר חמש ומשהו שנים, כשהחזון הגדול של החברה הוא לייצר Agentless-Security - בעצם לאפשר להגן על רשתות מבלי באמת להתקין Agent על המכשירים בסביבה.אנחנו עושים את זה ע”י (א) יצירה של Assets Inventory - מיפוי כל הרכיבים שנמצאים ברשת של לקוח ו(ב) אז, לגבי הרכיבים האלה, להגיד מה הם? האם יש חולשות מסויימות שרלוונטיות? האם הם תחת Risk מסויים? כדי לאפשר ללקוח בעצם לקנפג (Config) ולעדכן אותם.מעבר לזה - האם יש איזשהו . . . אנחנו עושים משהו שאנחנו קוראים לו NDR - במקום ה-EDR, שזה Endpoint detection and response - אנחנו עושים Network detection and response, זאת אומרת - אותה הגנה מפני פריצות ותקיפות והתנהגות זדונית, בתרגום העברי של Malicious, או Suspicious, חשודה.במקום להשתמש ב-Agents בשביל לעשות את הדברים האלה, אנחנו בעצם עושים את זה דרך אינטגרציות עם רכיבי רשת ומידע שמועבר באופן גולמי.(אורי) זאת אומרת שאתם Agent על רכיבי הרשת . . . אני יכול להגיד את זה?(טל) אנחנו לא מתקינים Agents - אנחנו עושים אינטגרציה עם רכיבי רשת או עם תוכנות ברשת(אורי) וזה נותן לכם יתרון ב-Deployment, או שזה גם נותן לכם יתרון ממש ב-Detection שאתם יכולים לעשות ואחרים לא יכולים?(טל) זה נותן הרבה יתרון ב-Deployment - למעשה, אם זה רכיבי רשת אז אנחנו יכולים לעשות RSPAN מ-Switch-ים ובעצם לקבל תעבורה גולמית, או ממש לעשות איזושהי אינטרגציה עם Wireless LAN Controller - הרכיב שאחראי על הרשת Wi-Fi.או, במקרים אחרים, עם כל מיני מערכות שפועלות בדרך על רשת Active Directory - אז אנחנו משתמשים באיזשהו API ומתקשריםאנחנו ממש נמנעים מלעשות דברים יותר מורכבים מזה, בשביל לשמור על Deployment מאוד קצר ופשוט.(אורי) כן, פשוט מעניין אותי איך הדבר הזה עובד, פיזית . . . אתם בעצם מאזינים לתעבורת הרשת כחיצוניים-לה, ונותנים את ההתראות, או מה שצריך?(טל) כן - אנחנו לא נמצאים בתוך הרשת, אנחנו עושים איזשהו RSPAN, בדרך כלל לאיזשהו Collector שנמצא סמוך ל-Switch, אנחנו שמים אותו ליד.ובצורה הזו אנחנו מוציאים את הדברים הרלוונטיים ושלחים חזרה, באופן מוצפן, לענן, לאיפה שהשרת שלנו נמצא.ואז משם, בעצם, אנחנו מסוגלים להציג ללקוח את התובנות וה-Insights שמתוקשרות עם המערכות של Armis, עם ה-Knowledge base שלנו.(רן) זאת אומרת שנקודת ההנחה היא שהתוקף, או הפעילות החשודה, עוברת ברשת - אני מניח שזה טרוויאלי, כי כנראה שזה כמעט תמיד ככה . . .(טל) כן - בהנחה שיש תוקף חיצוני כלשהו, בהנחה שהתוקף לא מגיע מתוך המערכות שלך ושם USB בתוך אחד המחשבים של העובדים שלך, אז תיהיה איזושהי הגעה מתוך הרשת.לרוב היא תוסווה, ובעצם המטרה שלנו היא להשתמש בכל מה שאנחנו מסוגלים לתתהדוגמא שהכי קל לדבר עליה - הרבה פעמים שואלים אותנו “אבל ה-Firewall לא אמור לעצור את כל הדברים ברשת? איך תדעו?” - אז הרבה פעמים דברים קורים לפני שה-Firewall יודע שמדובר באילו-שהם Domains שהם אסורים לגישה או שהם חשודים או בעייתיים.ואז הם בעצם ניגשים להבין את הפרופיל של המכשירים שנמצאים על הרשתבעבר זה משהו שהיה מאוד . . . אני לא אגיד ש”פשוט” כי זה עולם מורכב ואני לא רוצה לזלזל בכל מי שמתעסק ב-Security, אבל בעולמות של היום, כשיש לך גם מחשבים, גם סלולריים גם, במשרד רגיל היום, אם אתם זוכרים איך נראה משרד רגיל, אז יש בו גם מצלמות אבטחה וטלפונים ומדפסות ו-VOIP-ים וכל דבר כזה.וקל וחומר כשמגיעים באמת לארגונים או מערכות שמשתמשות, ממש על בסיס יומיומי, ברכיבים שנקראים IOT, במובן הרחב שלהם - אם זה Industrial IOT, אם זה פסי ייצור, בין אם זה מעליות בבניין, שזה Management systems, ובין אם זה בבתי חולים, שזה האולטרסאונדים והרטנגן שמשתמשים בהם - כולם היום מחוברים לאינטרנט, והם משתמשים ברשתות - ומכשירים כאלה הרבה יותר קשה לנטר אותם אם אתה לא יודע מה הם ואתה לא מבין מה ההתנהגות הרצויה שלהם.(אורי) דיברת קודם על Firewall וכאלה - זה לא Firewall שמנסה לחסום Ports כדי שלא תיהיה גישה פנימה, אבל הוא הרבה פעמים ירשה יצירת Connection החוצה - ונראה לי, אם אני מבין נכון, שחלק ממה שאתם עושים זה פעם (Once) שמישהו יצר קשר החוצה, עכשיו על ה-Connection הזה יכול להכנס Malicious traffic בלי בעיה - ואתם תראו אותו, אבל Firewall לא יראה אותו.(טל) זה גם נכון, למרות שכל רכיב רשת שהוא, בין אם זה IOT וכו’ - הם לא ייצרו קשר “סתם” החוצה, חייב להיות משהו שייגרום להם לעשות את זה.באופן קצת מצחיק, עדיין אחוז מאוד ניכר מהמתקפות היום מגיע מ Phishing, או מ-Spear Phishing, שאנשים פשוט לוחצים.אבל הרבה גם מגיע מסריקות חיצוניות - מאילו-שהם מכשירים, שיש להם Port פתוח גם לתקשורת החוצה וגם לתקשורת פנימה.עלה לי לראש “מדפסת”, פשוט בגלל שקח לדוגמא מדפסת של HP - אחת לכמה זמן היא כנראה תתעדכן מול השרתים של HP, ואם אני איש IT, אז אני צריכה לקנפג (Configure) את Firewall, וצריך לתת לה איזושהי יציאה מסויימתבוא נניח ש . . . - אם זו מדפסת או Security camera או מה שזה לא יהיה - אז בוא נניח שאיש ה-IT שלך מאוד יסודי, ויודע על כל אחד מהרכיבים שלו בדיוק מה הם, ולהרשות את ה-IP עם ה-Port הרלוונטי הספציפי שצריך להתעדכן, שזו גם קצת הנחה שהיא Far-fetched - גם אם הוא עושה את זה, האם הוא יודע בדיוק מה ה-Domain הספציפי שמתעדכן? כי גם הוא משתנה . . .לכן מגיע הפתרון שלנו, שאומר - “רגע, אני יודע שזה לא IP ו-Mac כלשהו, שאם שמים על הרשת, אני יודע שזו מדפסת”.לכן, המדפסת הזו מיוצאת ליותר מ-Domain אחד ובחודש האחרון - לא יודעת, אם הפרופיל שלה כל הזמן התעדכן, כל חודש או משהו כזה, ואני רואה איזשהו שינוי בהתנהגות - אז בגלל שהיא מדפסת, אני יודעת להגיד שזו חריגה.ואני יודעת או לשלוח את החוקים ל-Firewall או ממש להתריע בפני הצוות ולהגיד “תראה, יש עכשיו התנהגות חשודה ברשת, שים לב ל-IP הזה ולמה הוא מתנהג ככה”.(אורי) כן, במיוחד אם הצנטריפוגות שלך מתחילות ל . . .(טל) כן, זה משהו שרצוי לעצור . . .(רן) אז איך בעצם עובד מחקר כזה? אתם צריכים ללכת וממש להכיר כל פרוטוקול של כל מדפסת או כל ציוד IOT? איך בכלל מתחילים על כל הסיפור הזה?(טל) זו שאלה טובה . . . כמו שאתה יכול לתאר לעצמך, זה יכול להיות קצת סיזיפי לפעמים, אבל באמת ההתחלה הגיעה מהפרוטוקולים היותר גדולים, שרוב הרשתות משתמשות בהם ורוב מכשירי ה-IOT, באיזושהי רמה, ישתמשו בהם.אתם יכולים לתאר לעצמכם - HTTP ו-DNS ופרוטוקולים שקשורים ל-Registration לרשת - DHCP ו-CNP וכו’.ולאט לאט התחלנו משם, ועוד ועודבעצם, Armis עצמה היום יושבת על כמה Industries שונים, שזה אומר שאנחנו צריכים להחזיק הרבה אנשים שמכירים פרוטוקולים של רכיבים שבדרך כלל מתחברים לרשת משרדית - אבל גם את המעליות, וכל ה-Big Management systems וה-Industrial systems וכל ה-Medical . . .אז פשוט - בכל פעם שנכנסנו לתחום חדש, אז יושבים ומתחילים לחקור(רן) אוקיי - אז איך חוקרים? פשוא מסתכלים על הפאקטות (Packets) ומתחילים להבין מה הן אומרות?(טל) אז לפעמים ככה . . . בצורה יותר מתודית בדרך כלל, מנסים להבין מה הם המכשירים הרלוונטיים שמשתמשים בהם וקצת להבין אותם. הרבה פעמים . . .יש כל מיני סוגים - יש ממש לעשות Network research, ממש לראות איך פרוטוקול מסויים עובד, לנתח את הפאקטות (Packets), לראות פקודות מסויימותאם יש לך איזשהו מכשיר אז ממש לראות כל מיני פעילויות שאתה עושה ביום-יום עם המכשיר ולהבין את הפקודות השונות.לפעמים יש תיעוד של הדברים - יש Vendors שמייצרים תיעוד, שאין להם בעיה לשתף אותו.יש תיעוד קיים לפרוטוקולים שהם Open sourceויש מקרים יותר מורכבים . . . של פרוטוקולים ש . . .אני יכולה לתת דוגמא אחת מצחיקה שהייתה לנו, שאחד הלקוחות שלנו, בתחום התעופה - ולמעשה ראינו . . הצלחנו לזהות ברשת שלו “מנעולים חכמים”, כמו דלתות כאלה, כמו שאתם יכולים לדמיין, שאתם מתקרבים אליהן ויש חיישני גישה והן נפתחות.אז בעצם, עבור המקרה הזה אמרנו “בואו נקנה רכיבים דומים וננסה לחקור אותם”, והתחלנו לחקור ולהתעניין באינטרנט . . . [Sirius Cybernetics Corporation?](רן) כשאת אומרת “לחקור ולהתעניין”, אז בואי נראה אם אני מבין את הדבר הנכון - אני מסתכל על איזה Traffic הם מוציאים? מה הם מקבלים? איך הם מגיבים, נגיד, אם אני שולח להם Packet כזו - האם הם פותחים את הדלת? . . .מה המשמעות של “לחקור” בעצם?(טל) כן, זה ממש ככה - אתה רוצה לחבר אותם לרשת, ואז להתחיל לשחק איתם, להפעיל אותם כמו . . . תיכף אני אסביר למה לא רכשנו אותם, אבל אתה בעצם רוצה, לצורך העניין, לחבר מצלמת אבטחה לרשת, לשחק איתה, להזיז אותה, לראות מה היא קולטת, אילו פקודות היא נותנת חזרה לשרת, ואז, בעצם, להבין איך הפרוטוקול עובד - איזה סוג פקודה נשלחת בכל פעם שמתבצעת פעולה, ואיזה מידע עובר עם כל סוג פקודה כזה.(רן) אוקיי - ומה גיליתם? גיליתם משהו מעניין על אותן דלתות חכמות, מנעולים חכמים?(טל) אז את המנעולים החכמים מאוד מאוד רצינו, חשבנו שזה ממש מגניב לראות אותםבעצם, כשהתחלנו קצת לרחרח ולהתקשר למקומות שמוכרים את המנעולים החכמים האלה, בעצם קיבלנו כזה “אוקיי, אנחנו נבדוק בשבילכם”, ויום אחר כך התקשרה מישהי מה-DOD האמריקאי, ובאנגלית מאוד פורמלית ומאוד . . .(רן) זה ה-Department of Defense . . .(טל) כן, ה-Department of Defense . . . “התענייתם ברכישה של מנעולים מסוג כזה וכזה . . .”(רן) “האם אתם אירנים? האם אתם בונים כור?”(טל) בדיוק . . . “לאיזה צורך?”אז אמרנו “לא, רק רצינו לחקור ולראות איך הם עובדים”, ואז היא אמרה “So Don’t . . . ”ולא רכשנו את המנעולים האלה . . . אבל מן הסתם היה הרבה ציוד אחר, שאנחנו בודקים ומנתחים.(רן) היא כנראה לא עברה קורס הסוואה של ה-FBI או של ה-DOD . . .(טל) לא . . . באמת, לפעמים זה מאוד מוזר, התחום הזה.(אורי) בואי . . . ישראלי טוב, דווקא כשאומרים לו So Don’t . . . ” - דווקא קונה.(טל) אני . . . בואו נגיד שהסיפור נחרט, זה עד היום “המכשיר המפוספס” מבחינתי, יום יבוא ונשלים את זה.אבל בסדר - אנחנו כן ישראלים, אנחנו ידועים בתושייה שלנו ועל היכולת שלנו להתמודד עם דברים בכל מיני דרכים . . .(אורי) “חסמו לנו את הדלת החכמה, אז נכנסנו מהחלון החכם, זה לא . . . “(טל) היי! אנחנו Defense - רק מגינים.(רן) אז אוקיי - אולי נדבר על כמה חולשות מעניינות שיצא לך לחקור או להכיר, בפרוטוקולים מוכרים.אני מניח שהרבה מהאנשים פה שמאזינים מכירים את הפרוטוקולים הטיפוסיים - בין אם זה HTTP שהזכרת, DNS או אחרים - ספרי לנו על איזשהו סיפור מעניין שיצא לך לעבוד איתו.(אורי) על איזה פרוטוקול שאף אחד לא שמע עליו . . .(טל) שאף אחד לא שמע עליו? . . .(אורי) לא יודע . . . כמו הפרוטוקולים של קבינט הקורונה . . .(רן) אורי - יש לך טעם קינקי במיוחד היום? . . . לא, אולי נדבר על איזה פרוטוקול מוכר, אבל חולשה מעניינת.(טל) אני חושבת שאחד הדברים היותר מוכרים ומעניינים בהקשר של . . . או שנתחיל שנייה ביותר פשוט -באמת, התחום הזה של מחקר רשת - יש לו את הצד היותר הגנתי, שאנחנו משתמשים בו, ויש גם את הצד ההתקפי.זאת אומרת - אתה יכול לחקור פרוטוקול כדי להבין איך הוא מתנהל ולנסות להגן, ואתה יכול לחקור פרוטוקול כדי למצוא בו באמת חולשות.ולרוב אלו גם שני תפקידים שונים בתוך חברות.אז אני אנסה לתת דוגמא מכאן ומכאן, נשמע הגיוני?(רן) מעולה(טל) אז הצד הראשון הוא באמת הצד ההגנתי יותר, כשהמטרה שלנו פה היא לחקור פרוטוקול, להבין מה אפשר להוציא ממנו - ידע על המכשירים שמשתמשים בו - ומנגד לראות מתי אפשר להשתמש כדי . . . מתי הוא בעייתי.אני אתן לך דוגמא של פרוטוקול שאתה כנראה לא מכיר - כי HTTP ו- DNS הם באמת מוכרים - יש פרוטוקול מאוד מוכר בעולמות בתי החולים, עולמות ה-Medical, שנקרא DICOM.זהו למעשה פרוטוקול של מכשירי Imaging - אולטרסאונד או CT או X-ray - כל התחום הזה בעצם משתמש בפרוטוקול הסופר-עתיק הזה בשם DICOM, שכל המשמעות שלו היא תקשורת בין מכשיר הקצה, למשל האולטרסאונד, לבין איזשהו שרת ייעודי, שנקרא שרת PACS, שהוא בעצם השרת שמחזיק את ה-Images שנשלחים.(רן) זה לא כמו במצלמה אלקטרונית [דיגיטלית]? תמיד יש Folder כזה שנקרא “DICOM”, נכון? זה מגיע מאותו מקום? כשמורידים, נגיד . . אם מכניסים . . .(אורי) DCIM . . .(רן) אה, DCIM . . .(טל) DCIM . . . כן, זה שונה . . . נראה כמו אותם ראשי תיבות דומים, או משהו כזה, אבל לא - DICOM הוא ממש של עולם הרפואה.הוא מאוד מאוד מוכר ובשימוש מאוד רחב - לא ראיתי אף פעם לקוח בתחום שלא היה לו שימוש מאסיבי ב-DICOM . . .(רן) זאת אומרת שאם אני עושה CT או X-Ray או כל מיני דברים כאלה, אז זה כנראה עובר בפרוטוקול הזה לאיזשהו שרת?(טל) כן. אולי יש דרכים חדשות שמנסים, אבל אני עוד לא נתקלתי בהן בכל הבתי חולים שאנחנו עובדים איתם.(רן) שליחים של Wolt? . . .(אורי) אבל הוא נוצר בתקופת ה X-Ray או בתקופת ה-MRI?(טל) בתקופת ה-X-Ray, לחלוטין בתקופת ה-X-Ray . . . (רן) רוצה לומר - Precambrian . . .(אורי) לא - השאלה האם היו בכלל רשתות מחשבים . . .(טל) תראה, X-Ray הוא לא כזה פיתוח של 1920-1930 כזה? או שאני טועה? [1895] אז שם הוא עדיין לא קיים, אבל הוא [DICOM] לחלוטין פיתוח מסוף ה-90s, לדעתי, אם אני לא טועה [1983]. אני לא בטוחה . . .(רן) בתקופה התמימה של הרשתות . . .(טל) כן . . .ולכן - כמו שאתם מתארים לעצמכם - הוא un-encrypted לחלוטין . . . הוא לא מוצפן, הכל עובר בגלוי, הוא ברובו אפילו לא בינארי - הוא ברובו טקסטואלי, שזה גם הבדל משמעותי בין פרוטוקלים, מן הסתםבגלל זה, כששאלת האם יש פרוטוקול שמסתכל על כמה פאקטות (Packets) ומבין מה הם עושים? אז כן - יש פרוטוקולים שהם פשוט טקסטואליים, שמי שכתב אותם פשוט . . .(רן) ואם זו תמונה - איך מייצגים תמונה באמצעות טקסט?(טל) אז תמונה מיוצגת באמצעות . . . בייצוג בינארי של תמונה - אבל גם התמונה היא Un-encrypted, בפיענוח מאוד פשוט אתה יכול להוציא את זה.(רן) זאת אומרת שמי שפיתח את הפרוטוקול יצא מתוך נקודת הנחה שכל מי שיכול להאזין לרשת הוא Trusted, ובעולם של היום אנחנו יודעים שזה לא קיים . . .(טל) בדיוק, לחלוטין - זה ממש מה שקרה.(אורי) או שהוא תכנן על זה שזה לא מעניין אף אחד . . .(טל) כן . . .זה גם יכול להיות, אעפ”י שזה קצת תמים לחשוב שזה לא מעניין אף אחד, הפרטים האלה . . .(טל) ובאמת, אחד הדברים שמתחילת הדרך מהר מאוד הבנו בעולמות של DICOM . . . אגב, זה לא ספציפית רק ל-DICOM, רוב הפרוטוקולים בעולם הרפואה, לצערי, לא מוצפנים ורובם טקסטואליים, ומכילים פרטים מאוד אישיים על כל אחד מאיתנו, כולל שמות, רקע רפואי, גובה, משקל, תעודת זהות, שם של הרופא המטפל - הכל עובר בצורה גלויה.(רן) תראי - לפני עולם המחשוב, הרופאים היו כותבים בצורה קריפטית (encrypted), ואף אחד לא יכול היה לפענח, והכל היה בסדר . . . עכשיו, עם כל המחשוב הזה, כולם יכולים לקרוא בפונט של Miriam . . .(אורי) אני חושב שהם פשוט לא תכננו . . . לא הבינו איך אפשר לקרוא את זה.(רן) אז מה עושים? - אפשר לכתוב את זה באיזשהו IPsec או באיזשהו משהו אחר? לעטוף את זה באיזושהי שכבה שכן מצפינה?(טל) זו שאלה טובה . . . זה חלק, שלמשל, היה מתסכל עבורי - אנחנו רואים את זה, אנחנו יושבים לצד הרשת, אנחנו לא חלק בהאנחנו לא יכולים להצפין, אנחנו בעיקר יכולים לעדכן את בתי החולים שזה מה שקורה ושזה המידע שמועבר.ואנחנו באמת, מהנקודה הזו והלאה, על כל פרוטוקול אומרים איזה סוג של מידע מועבר בו.חשוב להדגיש שאנחנו לא מוציאים את המידע הזה מאף אד מהלקוחות שלנו - זה נשאר ברשת שלהם ואנחנו בכלל לא מעבירים את המידע.(רן) כמו שאורי אמר - את מי זה מעניין? . . .(טל) כן . . . האמת שזה מאוד מעניין - אני יכולה לדבר אפילו על רשת בתי חולים של מדינה כלשהי, שבעבר - אחת הסיבות שהם התעניינו ו-Ultimately באנו עם המוצרים שלנו, הייתה בגלל שהם באמת חוו פריצה משמעותית, מצד מדינה אחרת, אל המאגרים שלהם, לרשת, בעצם.בגלל שכל המידע לא מוצפן והם לא ידעו שיש להם דליפה, הרבה מהמידע דלף החוצה, ובכירים ממשלתיים פשוט . . . Blackmailed, ממש נסחטו.וזה מאוד קשור - פשוט נבע ממידע לא מוצפן וגישה לרשת.(רן) זה מעניין כמעט כמו לפרוץ לחברת ביטוח, נגיד שירביט . . .(טל) נגיד . . .(רן) סתם זרקתי שם . . . אז אוקיי, גיליתם את זה. כולם ידעו שהפרוטוקול הזה הוא לא Encrypted, אז מה . . . העבודה שלכם פה כאילו נגמרה, מה אתם יכולים לעשות פה?(טל) אז זו שאלה טובה . . . בחלק הזה באמת זה קצת מתסכל, בעולמות של ה-Medical- המטרה שלנו הייתה קודם כל, בראש ובראשונה, להבין את הפרוטוקול הזה, להבין איך הוא מתנהל.באיזה שלב מועברים הפרטים הרגישים? ובצורה הזו אנחנו . . .אגב, לפרוטוקול יש באמת איזשהו Association request, וצריך להחזיר אליו, ויש בקשה כזאת, ובקשת Store, ובקשה להעברת Images.כל הדברים האלה הם דברים ברזולוציות מאוד מאוד גבוהות, שאנחנו צריכים להבין ולגלות, כדי לדעת באיזה חלק או באיזו פקודה עובר המידע המוצפן.ואז למעשה אנחנו יכולים . . . אנחנו לא יכולים להצפין אותו ולא יכולים לעצור אותו - אנחנו יכולים לשקף את זה ללקוח שלנו.ואז בעצם, אם חס וחלילה המידע הזה מוזלג החוצה, אנחנו יכולים לבוא ולהגיד ללקוח - “שים לב, המידע המוצפן הזה נשלח לאיזשהו מחשב או מכשיר כלשהו, שנמצא מחוץ לרשת שלך”או אפילו למכשיר בתוך הרשת, שאינו מורשה, Not Authorized.אנחנו מאפשרים ללקוח ממש לסמן את המכשירים שמותר להם לגשת למידע הזה ומכשירים שלא.ואז, בעצם, אנחנו מנסים לפחות To contain - ממש לעצור את זה.(רן) אוקיי, את זה הבנתי, זה ערך מוסף משמעותי - אולי הפרוטוקול עצמו לא בטוח, אבל לפחות אתם יודעים שמישהו ניגש ולא אמור לגשת(טל) בדיוק.(אורי) אני רציתי לשאול לגבי גופי רגולציה - נתת את הדוגמא של מערכות בריאותיות, ויש שם מידע לא מוצפן.האם יש סוגי מערכות, שיש תקינה מסויימת לגבי האבטחה שלהן, וגופי תקינה שנמצאים בקשר איתכם כדי לאכוף את התקנים האלה?(טל) יש הרבה מערכות שיש איזה-שהם גופי תקינה, לצערי . . . בעולמות ה-Medial, אגב, מאוד.לדוגמא, היינו בעולמות הרנטגן - לכל מכשיר רנטגן חדש שיוצא יש איזושהי תקינה, יש מסמך שהוא צריך למלא, כולל שאלות לגבי אבטחה - האם אפשר לשים עליו אנטי-וירוס? האם יש לו אילו-שהן Capabilities בתחום ה-Security?והוא גם צריך לעבור אישור FDA.לצערי, בפרוטוקולים הם לא כל כך בודקים . . . אני לא מכירה, לפחות, איזושהי רגולציה מאוד חזקה על הפרוטוקולים.בדרך כלל, כשאנחנו מתקשרים ללקוחות, הם אומרים לנו “אנחנו יודעים” - ואז אנחנו מראים להם כמה זה נפוץ ברשת והם קצת נבהלים אבל מבינים . . . באמת אין מספיק פיקוח על התחום הזה.קצת יוצאים מתוך נקודת הנחה שבעצם אף אחד לא יצליח לפרוץ - אנחנו מנסים להגן על הרשת של בתי החולים, כדי שאף אחד לא יצליח להיכנס פנימה.אישית, אני חייבת להגיד שזו תפיסת אבטחה שהיא קצת קשה היום . . .(רן) אני מניח, לצורך העניין - רגולציה זה סבבה, אבל היא כנראה נמצאת כמה שנים אחרי התוקפים, ברמה המחשבתית, הטכנולוגית . . .(טל) בדיוק(אורי) זה בסדר - הרגולציה סוגרת פירצה. יכול להיות שהתוקפים נכנסו דרך הפירצה כבר, אבל כדי שזה לא ימשיך אז . . .(רן) אוקיי . . . זה מעניין, אני אחשוב פעמיים עכשיו לפני שאני אעשה . . . לפני שאשבור את היד או אקבל איזה התקף לב . . .(רן) בהכנה לפודקאסט, רשמנו כל מיני שמות של התקפות מעניינות או כל מיני Vulnerabilities מעניינים שאפשר לדבר עליהם, אז בואי נבחר איזה כמה מבין ה - WannaCry וה-EternalBlue או אחרים שאת חושבת שמעניינים ונדבר עליהן.(טל) ודגש על WannaCry וה-EternalBlue . . . אין בעיה, בשמחה.אני חושבת שגם בחרתי . . . באמת, WannaCry הוא אחת התקיפות היותר מוכרות בעולם ה-Cyber ב3-4 שנים האחרונות . . .(רן) נגיד שאני לא מכיר . . .(טל) אני אספר מאפס, אבל באמת - זו איזושהי תקיפה שנתגלתה ב-2017, Ransomware בעצם.יש כל מיני סוגים של Ransomware - יש כאלה שהוא יותר מטורגטים (Targeted), שנועדו כדי להרוויח הרבה כסף ממקום אחד אבל WannaCry הוא באמת Ransomware מאוד רחב, שנשלח להרבה מאוד מקומות, מתוך מטרה לקבל מעט כסף מהרבה מקומות שנתפסו.ו-WannaCry הוא בעצם השם של ה-Ransomware עצמו, כלומר - Ransomware הוא סוג של Malware, שיושב בדרך כלל על מחשבים או שרתים, וכשאתה מפעיל אותו הוא מראה לך כמו איזושהי הודעה כזאת מאוד רעה . . .לפעמים רשום בכתב [פונט] “מרים” מאוד יפה, אבל היא מאוד קשה לעיכול - שבעצם אתה לא יכול לגשת למחשב שלך, אלא אם תעביר כסף . . .(רן) “עשירית Bitcoin - או שכל הקבצים שלך יושמדו”.(טל) בדיוק . . .אז הרעים ביותר הם עם איזשהו Deadline לקבצים שיושמדו, כמו שרואים בטלויזיהלרוב הם די Plain-text עם סמיילי בסוף . . . עוקצני כזה - ואיזשהו ארנק Bitcoin שאפשר להעביר אליו את התשלום.זה היה אירוע באמת מאוד רחב, וזה השם של ה-Ransomware.הוא עשה נזק של עשרות מיליונים ברחבי העולם, ועד היום יש מופעים שלו וקשה להיפטר ממנו.(רן) מעניין אותי האם עושים A/B Testing על הטקסט, על הפונט, על הסמיילי בסוף? . . . לדעת מה יותר אפקטיביוגם על הסכום! הרי בכל פעם שמוציאים מוצר חדש . . (אורי) אל תדאג - בטוח שעושים.(רן) ומה מעניין בו, טכנולוגית? זאת אומרת - איך הוא בעצם פועל?(טל) אני חושבת שמה שמעניין יותר, טכנולוגית, הוא ה-EternalBlue, שזו קצת דרך ההפצה של WannaCryיש כל מיני דרכי הפצה - כשאתה תוקף, יש את הדרך שלך להיכנס, ראשונית, לתוך הרשת - לגרום לבנאדם בתוך הרשת ללחוץ או לקבל את ה-Exert [מפעיל] בצורה ראשוניתלרוב זה נעשה בצורה לא מאוד חדשנית - לרוב WannaCry באיזשהו Spear Phishing - מייל שנשלח ולחצו על איזשהו לינקואז בעצם מה שקורה עם הלינק הזה - אם התוקף עשה את עבודתו נכון, הוא הצליח בעצם לנצל את הפרצה המסויימת במכשיר שהוא ניגש אליו, וניצול הפירצה הזו נעשה על ידי Exert בשם EternalBlue.עכשיו, יש גם עוד כמה סוגים שונים של חולשות שהשתמשו בהן כדי להתקין את ה-WannaCry, אבל EternalBlue הייתה המוכרת בהן.(רן) איך עבד EternalBlue?(טל) EternalBlue השתמש בפרוטוקול SMB, שזה Server Message Block - זה פרוטוקול מאוד ותיק של Microsoft, שאפילו שימש לפני ה- Active Directory כדי לקשר בין שרתים.מה ש-EternalBlue עשה זה ניצל כמה חולשות בתוך הפרוטוקול של SMBאלו כמה חולשות, שהשתמשו אחת בשנייה, אבל בעצם כשאני אומרת “חולשות” זה באגים - דברים שלא עובדים כמו שצריך בתוך הפרוטוקול עצמו.(רן) בפרוטוקול עצמו, או במימושים שלו בתחנות היעד?(טל) למעשה, במסגרת EternalBlue, מה שיכולת לעשות זה להעביר איזושהי פאקטה (Packet) . . . מה שנעשה בפועל זה שנשלחה פאקטה (Packet) שהיא זדונית, מראש היא נשלחה בפרוטוקול SMB,מחשבים שהצליחו לקבל אותה - אפשר היה להפעיל עליהם קוד, וזה היה בעצם הרעיון של ה-Exploit - אתה יכול, באמצעות פאקטה (Packet) אחת, ב-Session אחד, כל עוד המכשיר השני מקבל אותו - ופה קצת מגיע ה”למי יש את ה-Ports הפתוחים של SMB” , אבל בגלל שמדובר באיזשהו פרוטוקול של שרתים אז להרבה מכשירים ישנים . . . למעשה, כמעט מ-Windows 7 ודרומה, וה-Servers המקבילים שלו - כולם פגיעים.ויש גם גרסאות של Windows 10 שעדיין פגיעות אליו.וכולם יכלו לקבל את הפאקטה הזאת, ויכלו להריץ קוד במסגרת השליחה של ה-Exploit, והקוד הזה היה WannaCryעכשיו, Network research זה בדיוק מה ששימש את ההאקרים האלה כדי לתכנן את ה-Exploit - הם ראו כל מיני באגיםזה אומר, למשל, שב-SMB יש לך כל מיני פקודות שאתה שולח - המטרה של SMB זה לקבל הרשאות לקבצים, או לשלוח קבצים להדפסה, כל מיני דברים כאלה.בעצם, בחלק מהפקודות שמעבירות את ה-Meta-data של הקבצים, יש שני סוגים של פקודות, שכל אחד מהם משתמש בשדה, Field, אחר, כדי לציין את גודל ה-Packets שנשלחו.(רן) אז נוצרה אי-תאימות? . . .(טל) בדיוק - הבאג הוא שלא נעשית ולידציה (Validation) - אם אתה משתמש ב-Field אחד אבל שולח סוג אחר . . .(רן) כמעט לכל פרוטוקול היה את הבאג הזה מתישהו . . . היה את זה ל-HTTP, היה את זה ל-TCP, היה כמעט בכל הפרוטוקולים . . .(טל) אז זה ממש היה ב-SMB, והיו עוד באגים קטנים שהם ניצלו אותם.(רן) זו הייתה חולשה ידועה בזמן שכל הסיפור התפוצץ?(טל) אז EternalBlue הוא באמת סיפור מצחיק, כי הסיפור הוא, לפי מקורות זרים, שה-NSA השתמש בחולשה הזאת לאורך שנים, והם לא עשו Disclosure ל-Microsoft אלה השתמשו בו.והוא למעשה דלף להאקרים כשנעשתה דליפה מה-NSA . . . זה הסיפור.ואז בעצם התחילו להשתמש בו באופן רחב, והסיפור הוא מאת Microsoft, שבאמת התלוננו על ה-NSA שלא נעשה פה Disclosure . . .(רן) ומזה יצא קורונה ו-5G וכל השאר . . .(אורי) אבל הוא גם, לפי מה שאת מתארת, כזה פרוטוקול לא מתוחזק . . . זה פרוטוקול ישן, הוא . . .(טל) הוא פרוטוקול ישןה-EternalBlue יצא על מה שנקרא SMB version 1 - היום יש Version 2 ו-Version 3.הם כן תחזקו אותו . . . כאילו - יש פרוטוקולים שהם כל כך מסואבים וכל כך ישנים, ויש להם פשוט הרבה מקומות שאתה יכול למצוא פרצות.אני אוכל לתת דוגמא אחרת מפרוטוקול אחר שהוא טיפה פחות מוכר - זה משהו שעשינו ב-Armis, ע”י צוות ה-Research המעולה שלנוכמו שאמרתי, יש הרבה שחוקרים את הצד ההגנתי ויש כאלה שחוקרים חולשות.אצלנו בארץ, ב-Armis, יש את שניהם - יש צוות Network research מעולה, שעושה כמעט את כל המחקרים שדיברתי עליהם, ויש לנו צוות Research, שהמטרה שלו היא למצוא באמת את הבעיות האלה.הצוות הזה חקר פרוטוקול שהוא קצת פחות מוכר בעולמות האלה כי הוא פרוטוקול Layer 2, שהוא פרוטוקול של Cisco שנקרא CDP, שזה בעצם Cisco Discovery Protocol.כמעט כל המכשירים של Cisco משתמשים בו.הוא נועד במקור לניהול, ל-Management של VoIP-ים, אבל למעשה כל מכשיר של Cisco, כולל הסוויצ’ים, כולל כל מצלמות האבטחה של Cisco, מי שמשתמש בהן - כולם מתקשרים על הפרוטוקול הזה.המטרה של החברה היא לעבור על פרוטוקול שלא כל כך נחקר, ולמצוא כל מיני דברים.במסגרת הפרסום הזה, שנקרא CDPwn, הם מצאו 5 חולשות שונות - ארבע מהן מאפשרות גם Remote Code Execution, שזו הרמה המשמעותית של הפריצה, כי זה אומר שאתה יכול להריץ קוד . . .(אורי) הפגיעה ביותר . . .(טל) הפגיעה ביותר, כי Remote Code Execution אומר שאתה פשוט יכול להריץ קוד על המכשיר.מה שהיה סופר-מעניין ב-Scenario הזה זה שאם עד עכשיו דיברנו על WannaCry, אז WannaCry מתחבר לאיזשהו מחשב, WannaCry עצמו גם יכול היה להריץ את EternalBlue כדי להתרחבאם כבר נכנסת לתוך הרשת אז יש לך גם מנגנון התרחבות, ואז אתה בעצם תוקף את כולם ומפיל את כל הרשת באיזשהו Ransomware.אבל הרבה דרכים להגן על רשתות היום, מה שאנשי IT עושים, זה בעצם לשייך את הרשת ל VLAN-ים שונים, ל-Sub-Networks שונים, כדי להגן בעצם על החומר הסודי שלהם.כלומר - אם אני קוקה-קולה, אז אני שמה את המתכון הסודי ב-Sub-Net אחת וב-VLAN, ולא נותנת לאף אחד לגשת.הרכיבים שיודעים לשלוט על הדברים האלה הם ה-Switches וה-Routers של Cisco, ולכן אם אתה תוקף ויודע לפרוץ את המכשירים האלה ולהריץ קוד עליהם, אתה יכול להפיל את החומות שאתה מייצר בין הסוגים השונים של הרשתות.זה מה שהפך את המתקפה הזאת לעוד יותר מסוכנת.(אורי) מה שאת אומרת זה שלו אני איש IT שמתכנן רשת של ארגון, את רוב הרשת אני אשים על Vendor אחד, ואת המקומות החשובים לי במיוחד אני אשים על Vendor אחר, ככה שפרוטוקולים של Command & Control לא יכולים לעבור בין Vendor ל-Vendor . . .(רן) מה שנקרא Defense-in-Depth, אורי . . . אבל אתה צריך גם שאיש IT שונה יתחזק את אותם [איזורים] . . .(טל) בכנות, אני די בטוחה שהמתכון של קוקה-קולה הוא על איזשהו מחשב יחיד, בודד, שאין לו שום גישה לאינטרנט ויש כמה Firewalls בינו לבין . . . (אורי) או שהוא כתוב בפנקס של Koh-I-Noor ושמור מתחת לאיזשהו מזרן . . .(טל) כנראה, אני מקווה . . . כי זה כנראה . . . לשמור על דאטה רגיש זה באמת קשה, ואם אתה שואל אותי, אז זה קצת קשור בעד כמה שאתה חושב שאנשים ירצו לקחת את המידע הזה.אם טרגטו (Target) אותך, אז זה קשה .הסיפור הכי מוכר של השנה האחרונה, ממש מהחצי שנה האחרונה, הוא הסיפור של SolarWinds, אם אתם מכיריםזו חברת Security בפני עצמה, שלא רק שהצליחו לפרוץ אליה - הצליחו לפרוץ לאחד המוצרים שלה . . .(רן) SolarWinds זו למעשה חברת IT, שמספקת בעיקר Security ללקוחות שלה - והם בעצמם נפרצו - ומשם גם ללקוחות שלהם?(טל) בדיוק(אורי) אני חושב שכשפרצו להם, בעצם לקחו את כלי התקיפת White-Hat שלהם, או משהו כזה . . .(טל) אז לא - מסתבר שממש טרגטו (Target) את SolarWinds, ומה שהם עשו זה ממש פרצו לקוד שלהם.הם ממש נכנסו לסביבת הפיתוח של אחת מתוכנות ה-Security ש-SolarWinds מציעה, והצליחו להוריד גרסא עם Malwareממש לשלוח איזושהי גרסא חדשה, לעשות Build, ניצלו איזושהי חולשת Build שם בשביל להגיע לרשת הזאת, והוציאו איזושהי גרסא - שכל מי שמתקין אותה יכול . . . בעצם “יש להם רגל ברשת שלו”, יש מי שמתקשר איתו החוצה.ואז, חלק מהלקוחות של SolarWinds ומי שבצם פרסם את כל התקיפה הזאת, היו חברת Security בשם FireEye.כש-FireEye פתאום קלטו שיש איזושהי זליגה מתוך ה-Knowledge Base הפנימי שלהם, שכלל מתקפות White-Hat שהם עשו ב-Scanners שלהם, שהם מציעים בעצם לציבור . . .משם כבר הבינו שיש איזושהי דליפה, הגיעו למקור שלה, הבינו שזה מה-Orion, מהמערכת של SolarWinds שהם רכשו - ואז הם פרסמו את זה.למעשה, המון המון גופים, בין אם עסקיים אבל גם לחלוטין ממשלתיים, לרמת ה-FBI ועוד גופים שהשתיקה יפה להם, ממש גילו שיש להם את המערכת הזאת ושמאוד סביר שדלף מהם חומר . . (אורי) אז ההיא מ-DOD התקשרה ואמרה “עכשיו את יכולים”?(טל) עכשיו אנחנו יכולים, כן . . .היא איחרה את המועד . . .(רן) טוב, כן - לא הייתי רוצה להיות SolarWinds במקרה הזה, אבל זה אחלה סיפור ואני בטוח שכולם שמעו עליו.מה שנקרא - לשמור על השומרים.טוב, טל - היה מרתק, תודה שבאת . . . (אורי) אפשר לדבר על זה עוד הרבה זמן(טל) תודה לכם שאירחתם אותי, לכבוד היא לי(רן) בשמחה - להתראות.הקובץ נמצא כאן, האזנה נעימה ותודה רבה לעופר פורר על התמלול
Learn about why popular opinion might not be as popular as you thought; a new analysis that’s debunked the blood type diet; and a pool of water in Kidd Creek Mine in Timmins, Ontario, Canada, that’s 2 billion years old. One person repeating an opinion makes people think it's a popular opinion by Kelsey Donk People Often Think An Opinion Heard Repeatedly From The Same Person Is Actually A Popular Opinion. (2020). ScienceDaily. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070520183447.htm Weaver, K., Garcia, S. M., Schwarz, N., & Miller, D. T. (2007). Inferring the popularity of an opinion from its familiarity: A repetitive voice can sound like a chorus. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 92(5), 821–833. https://doi.org/10.1037/0022-3514.92.5.821 A new analysis has debunked the blood type diet by Grant Currin New study debunks blood type diet. (2020). EurekAlert! https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-12/pcfr-nsd120420.php Kahleova, H., Petersen, K. F., Shulman, G. I., Alwarith, J., Rembert, E., Tura, A., Hill, M., Holubkov, R., & Barnard, N. D. (2020). Effect of a Low-Fat Vegan Diet on Body Weight, Insulin Sensitivity, Postprandial Metabolism, and Intramyocellular and Hepatocellular Lipid Levels in Overweight Adults. JAMA Network Open, 3(11), e2025454. https://doi.org/10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2020.25454 Barnard, N. D., Rembert, E., Freeman, A., Bradshaw, M., Holubkov, R., & Kahleova, H. (2020). Blood Type Is Not Associated with Changes in Cardiometabolic Outcomes in Response to a Plant-Based Dietary Intervention. Journal of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jand.2020.08.079 Shmerling, R. H. (2017, May 12). Diet not working? Maybe it’s not your type - Harvard Health Blog. Harvard Health Blog. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/diet-not-working-maybe-its-not-your-type-2017051211678 The World's Oldest Known Pool of Water Is a Staggering 2 Billion Years Old by Joanie Faletto Kidd Creek Mine | AMNH. (2021). American Museum of Natural History. https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent/planet-earth/why-is-the-earth-habitable/where-do-the-earth-s-riches-come-from/kidd-creek-mine Gilllis, L. (2019, June 17). Is there new life for Kidd Mine? Northern Ontario Business; Northern Ontario Business. https://www.northernontariobusiness.com/regional-news/timmins/is-there-new-life-for-kidd-mine-1510179 McGill University. (2016, November 3). Channels. https://www.mcgill.ca/channels/news/it%E2%80%99s-whats-underneath-counts-263769 Holland, G., Lollar, B. S., Li, L., Lacrampe-Couloume, G., Slater, G. F., & Ballentine, C. J. (2013). Deep fracture fluids isolated in the crust since the Precambrian era. Nature, 497(7449), 357–360. https://doi.org/10.1038/nature12127 Li, L., Wing, B. A., Bui, T. H., McDermott, J. M., Slater, G. F., Wei, S., Lacrampe-Couloume, G., & Lollar, B. S. (2016). Sulfur mass-independent fractionation in subsurface fracture waters indicates a long-standing sulfur cycle in Precambrian rocks. Nature Communications, 7(1). https://doi.org/10.1038/ncomms13252 Subscribe to Curiosity Daily to learn something new every day with Cody Gough and Ashley Hamer. You can also listen to our podcast as part of your Alexa Flash Briefing; Amazon smart speakers users, click/tap “enable” here: https://www.amazon.com/Curiosity-com-Curiosity-Daily-from/dp/B07CP17DJY See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
After the formation of the earth, we enter the Pre-Cambrian. We look the creation of continents, the oldest rocks, how to date them and the late heavy bombardment. Next time we focus on the creation of life and continue through the pre-cambrian. Thanks for listening Visit the site for the transcript - www.thenaturalhistorypodcast.com An online geological map of the UK https://mapapps.bgs.ac.uk/geologyofbritain/home.html
Skeptics claim that the fossil record is a good and relatively complete picture of the development of life on earth with little or no exceptions. But is that the case? This episode features Joel Tay and Paul Price. Creation.com Talk is produced by Joseph Darnell out of the CMI-USA studios. Become a monthly contributor at our site. You can also help out by telling your family and friends to check out Creation.com Talk. Helpful Resources Living Fossils - Grand Experiment, Ep. 2 Flood Fossils - Untold Secrets of Planet Earth Series The Fossil Record - Unearthing Nature's History of Life Links and Show Notes Pollen Paradox Precambrian rabbits—death knell for evolution? Further expansion of evolutionary fossil time ranges Are fossils ever found in the wrong place? The fossil record The salt range saga Are there out-of-sequence fossils that are problematic for evolution? Refuting Evolution 2, chapter 8 Is the fossil record overwhelming evidence for evolution? The fossil record and Precambrian rabbits Can Christians Believe in Evolution? Timestamps 00:00 Introduction 00:17 Out-of-order fossils 01:10 Blow away evolution 02:13 Mount Roraima pollen 04:55 Punjab region Salt Marls 07:39 Extending the ranges 10:17 ‘Never question evolution’ 11:31 Reworking the stones 14:06 Creationists explanation 15:41 Wrap-up FOLLOW US (if you want) ► Facebook ► Twitter ► Instagram ► Our site
The Eon in which we live is called the Phanerozoic, which comes from the ancient Greek word for visible life. The eon starts with the Cambrian, which began 541 million years ago. But in recent decades it has become increasingly clear from the fossil record that there was visible life before the Cambrian, and complex life at that. So what caused it to emerge then, and what caused it to proliferate and diversify so vigorously in the early Cambrian? Rachel Wood is Professor of Carbonate Geoscience at the University of Edinburgh. She and her team have uncovered fossils that suggest that the fuse of the so called Cambrian explosion was lit in the Ediacaran – the geological period that preceded the Cambrian. Go to geologybites.com for illustrations that include pictures of the Ediacaran fossils Rachel Wood discusses in the podcast and of some of the locations in Siberia and Namibia where she found them, as well as to learn more about Geology Bites.
(image source: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/793970609285301591/) Host Matthew Donald and guest co-host Jennifer Grossman discuss LUCA, the most recent organism from which all others on Earth have a common descent, which is pretty out-there. From the Precambrian era, this single-celled organism had nothing noteworthy about it whatsoever other than all its descendants, so have hope, all you losers! You might not be special, but your great-grandkids could be! Emphasis on "could." Want to further support the show? Sign up to our Patreon for exclusive bonus content here. Also, you can purchase Matthew Donald's dinosaur book "Megazoic" on Amazon by clicking here, its sequel "Megazoic: The Primeval Power" by clicking here, its third installment "Megazoic: The Hunted Ones" by clicking here, or its final installment "Megazoic: An Era's End" by clicking here.
TRIGGER WARNING: This episode is PACKED with colorful vocabulary! Most would define these as sexually explicit words, which does not make sense, because these words are referring to organs used for nursing (which are not used for sex!). However, we do use sexually explicit language when referring to the male body, because men have it coming! Oops In today's episode... Me, Myself and YVA toss around some wacky theories! Were the Ediacaran seas packed with floating boobs? Are these boobs remnants of our long-lost dolphin overlords? Have geologists been covering up the existence of prehistoric boobies for decades? And the most wacky, insane theory or all...should we stop sexualizing non-sexual body parts and allow a whole gender to freely inhabit the physical vessels they are born with? Oh, how shocking! They've been trying to cover 'em up for centuries. We're exposing them! :) ====================== The Haven of the Abyssal Cnidaria want YOU! Join us. Spread the word. May eternal be thy Flashy! ====================== Send us suggestions and comments to darwinsdeviations@gmail.com Intro/outro sampled from "Sequence (Mystery and Terror) 3" by Francisco Sánchez (@fanchisanchez) at pixabay.com Sound effects obtained from https://www.zapsplat.com YVA voiced with FreeTTS Image Credit: Verisimilus at English Wikipedia, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons (Episode image is heavily edited, the image owner reserves all rights to their image, and is not affiliated with our podcast) SOURCES: A LOT of Wikipedia articles I cannot possibly list Urban Thesaurus - Slang words for Breasts The science of why human breasts are so big Evolution of Life - The Ediacaran: Cyclomedusa Wei-guo, Sun. “Precambrian medusoids: The Cyclomedusa plexus and Cyclomedusa-like pseudofossils.” Precambrian Research 31 (1986): 325-360. R. J. F. Jenkins, C. H. Ford & J. G. Gehling (1983) The Ediacara member of the Rawnsley quartzite: The context of the Ediacara assemblage (late precambrian, flinders ranges), Journal of the Geological Society of Australia, 30:1-2, 101-119, DOI: 10.1080/00167618308729240 Narbonne, G. (1994). New Ediacaran fossils from the Mackenzie Mountains, northwestern Canada. Journal of Paleontology, 68(3), 411-416. doi:10.1017/S0022336000025816 Crimes, T., A. Insole and B. J. Williams. “A rigid-bodied Ediacaran Biota from Upper Cambrian strata in Co. Wexford, Eire.” Geological Journal 30 (1995): 89-109. McMenamin, Mark. (1986). The Garden of Ediacara. Palaios. 1. 178. 10.2307/3514512. McMenamin, M.A.S. and McMenamin, D.L.S. (1990) The Emergence of Animals; the Cambrian Breakthrough, Columbia University Press McMenamin, M. (1998). The Garden of Ediacara. New York: Columbia University Press.
On this ID the Future, German paleontologist Günter Bechly explains why the Precambrian fossil Namacalathus fails as a transitional precursor to the Cambrian explosion. Darwinists want to find transitional precursors to the Cambrian animals to minimize how poorly the Cambrian explosion fits with Darwinism’s story of a gradual evolutionary development. Dr. Bechly gives other examples of such efforts as well and shows how each fails. As he says, the more we learn about the Cambrian and Precambrian, the more dramatic the Cambrian explosion appears and the poorer it fits with modern evolutionary theory. As he also notes, the points he makes in this episode have been made by mainstream evolutionary paleontologists. He differs only in stepping back from the larger pattern Read More › Source
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In this installment of the Geology Flannelcast, the boys talk about some current events in the geology world. They cover a mysterious monolith found in the Utah desert, what life may have been like for the last dinosaurs, a new way to make synthetic diamonds, and a new Precambrian death assemblage discovered in Greenland. Additionally, the Flannelcasters unveil a new show segment called Jesse Trends. Chris mentions some Thanksgiving themed topics trending on Google and Jesse has to describe how the topics are linked to geology.
18 Explosive Origins of Life. The Precambrian Explosion was Only One of Them. – Dr. Gunter Bechly Ph.D. Fossil Discontinuities: Refutation of Darwinism & Confirmation of Intelligent Design – Dr. Gunter Bechly Ph.D.Watch the many visuals in this presentation at- https://youtu.be/M7w5QGqcnNs FOCLOnlineThe fossil record is dominated by abrupt appearances of new body plans and new groups of organisms. This conflicts with the gradualistic prediction of Darwinian Evolution. Here 18 explosive origins in the history of life are described, demonstrating that the famous Cambrian Explosion is far from being the exception to the rule. Also the fossil record establishes only very brief windows of time for the origin of complex new features, which creates a ubiquitous waiting time problem for the origin and fixation of the required coordinated mutations. This refutes the viability of the Neo-Darwinian evolutionary process as the single conceivable naturalistic or mechanistic explanation for biological origins, and thus confirms Intelligent Design as the only reasonable alternative. - See more at www.FOCLonline.org Dr. Günter Bechly is a German paleo-entomologist who specializes in the fossil history and systematics of insects (esp. dragonflies), the most diverse group of animals. He served as curator for amber and fossil insects in the department of paleontology at the State Museum of Natural History (SMNS) in Stuttgart, Germany. He is also a Senior Fellow with Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture. Dr. Bechly earned his Ph.D. in geosciences from Eberhard-Karls-University in Tübingen, Germany. HELP ACU SPREAD THE WORD!Ways to subscribe to the American Conservative University PodcastClick here to subscribe via iTunesClick here to subscribe via RSSYou can also subscribe via StitcherIf you like this episode head on over to iTunes and kindly leave us a rating, a review and subscribe! People find us through our good reviews. FEEDBACK + PROMOTIONYou can ask your questions, make comments, submit ideas for shows and lots more. Let your voice be heard.Email us at americanconservativeuniversity@americanconservativeuniversity.comNote- ACU Students and Alumni are asked to commit to donating Platelets and Plasma. Make an Appointment Today! Call Your local Hospital or The Red Cross at 1-800-733-2767
In this episode of podcast I have talked about Antarctica. I have talked about its physical geography and its history and at last little bit about its facts.Additional Info: Modern plate boundaries may be far different from ancient ones presumably marked by old fold belts. Ancient Antarctic mobile belts, such as are followed by today's Transantarctic Mountains, terminate at continental margins abruptly, as if sliced off, and seemingly reappear in other lands across young ocean basins. Much research has been concentrated on attempting to match intercontinentally the detailed structure of opposed coasts, such as between Antarctica and Australia, in an effort to learn whether they had been actually connected before the latest cycle of crustal spreading from intervening mid-oceanic ridges. Similarities between ancient mobile belts now suggest to some geologists that Antarctica may even have been connected to southwestern North America more than 600 million years ago, in late Precambrian time. Surface temperature trends show significant warming across the Antarctic Peninsula and to a lesser extent West Antarctica since the early 1950s, with little change across the rest of the continent. The largest warming trends occur on the western and northern parts of the Antarctic Peninsula. There the Faraday/Vernadsky Station has experienced the largest statistically significant (
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Melvyn Bragg and guests Martin Brasier, Richard Corfield and Rachel Wood discuss the Ediacara Biota, the Precambrian life forms which vanished 542 million years ago, and whose discovery proved Darwin right in a way he never imagined. Darwin was convinced that there must have been life before the Cambrian era, but he didn't think it was possible for fossils like the Ediacara to have been preserved. These sea-bed organisms were first unearthed in the 19th century, but were only recognised as Precambrian in the mid-20th century. This was an astonishing discovery. Ever since, scientists have been working to determine its significance. Were the Ediacara the earliest forms of animal life? Or were they a Darwinian dead end? Either way, it is argued, they reveal some of the secrets of the workings of evolution. Richard Corfield is Senior Lecturer in Earth Sciences at the Open University; Martin Brasier is Professor of Palaeobiology at the University of Oxford; Rachel Wood is Lecturer in Carbonate Geoscience at the University of Edinburgh.