Podcast appearances and mentions of jesse elder

How can we prepare for an uncertain world—physically, mentally, and spiritually—without living in fear? In this episode, Jesse Elder shares how true preparedness isn't just about stockpiling supplies, but also about mastering adaptability, intuition, and self-reliance. We explore the illusion of time, how imagination might be our future selves remembering us, and why embracing uncertainty sharpens our instincts. Jesse explains how perception shapes reality, how fear can be transmuted into resilience, and why the greatest survival skill is the ability to stay calm under pressure. Whether it's navigating societal shifts, unexpected crises, or personal challenges, this conversation offers a balanced, empowered approach to prepping for the worst while expecting the best.DISCLAIMER: This podcast is for educational purposes only and not intended for diagnosing or treating illnesses. The hosts disclaim responsibility for any adverse effects from using the information presented. Consult your healthcare provider before using referenced products. This podcast may include paid endorsements.THIS SHOW IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY:SUNLIGHTEN | Save up to $600 when you go to lukestorey.com/sunlighten and use code LUKESTOREY in the pricing form.PIQUE | For a limited time, get 15% off Nandaka + a free rechargeable frother and cup at piquelife.com/luke.QUANTUM UPGRADE | Get a 15-day free trial with code LUKE15 at lukestorey.com/quantumupgrade.BON CHARGE | Use the code LIFESTYLIST for 15% off at boncharge.com/lifestylist.MORE ABOUT THIS EPISODE:(00:00:00) Introduction(00:00:08) Reframing Time & the Power of Imagination(00:22:00) Accessing the Wisdom of Past & Future Selves(00:37:29) Navigating Uncertainty Without Fear(01:00:25) Cultivating Trust in Yourself & Finding Peace (01:19:24) How to Change Your Perspective & Create Your Own Reality(01:46:10) A Beginner's Guide to Practical PreparednessResources:• Website: jesseelder.com• Instagram: @timepiercerThe Life Stylist is produced by Crate Media.

In this episode, Jesse Elder shares his unique perspective on life, self-mastery, and preparedness. From practical advice on prepping to living passionately in the moment, Jesse dives deep into topics that challenge conventional thinking and inspire personal growth. Topics Discussed: Balancing curiosity and self-confidence and how this can profoundly impact your life. Exploring the meaning of living gloriously and bringing passion into everything you do. Co-creation, its many layers, and how to focus your energy on the outcomes you desire while being prepared for different possibilities. Jesse's take on the collapse of old societal structures and what could be on the other side. Connecting with your purpose, living in the present moment, and how life rewards you when you do. Practical and spiritual insights into preparing for potential apocalyptic scenarios without giving in to fear. The importance of trusting yourself and spending time on tactical prepping without worrying excessively about the future. Exploring the concept of fear and why we shouldn't be afraid of the things we commonly fear. About Jesse Elder: Jesse Elder is an action philosopher, time piercer, author, mentor, speaker, and entrepreneur. Known for his Mind Vitamin™ video series, Jesse teaches "Self Mastery for the real world," helping people from all walks of life focus their thinking and improve their productivity and happiness. Join the GO TIME GROUP: https://t.me/+0VpxYyxF_uU3ZTk5 Related Episodes: Ep 95: Time Piercing The Way Forward podcast is sponsored by: NEW BIOLOGY CLINIC: Experience individually tailored terrain-based health services with virtual consults, practitioner livestreams, movement classes, and more. The New Biology Clinic's motivation is to make you healthy and keep you that way. Visit https://NewBiologyClinic.com and enter code TheWayForward for $50 off your activation fee. Members of The Way Forward get the full activation fee waived. Become a member of The Way Forward here: https://thewayfwrd.com/membership-sign-up/ ————————— ORGANIFI: Experience the delicious taste of Organifi's products infused with 250mg of shilajit. Explore their full collection and enjoy 20% off your entire order by going to organifi.com/twf. ————————— Visit our online marketplace for discounts on a variety of the best holistic health brands and products: https://thewayfwrd.com/store/ For all of our links, and to watch or listen to The Way Forward on other platforms, visit: https://www.flowcode.com/page/thewayforward Join The Way Forward to connect with like minded men and women near you, businesses near you, and more! The best part? You pay whatever you want!: https://thewayfwrd.com/membership-sign-up/ Are you a natural health practitioner? Join our private, natural-health practitioner database here: https://thewayfwrd.com/directory-form/ ————————— *This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed in whole or in part without expressed written permission from The Way Forward, LLC. The purpose of this presentation is to convey information. It is not intended to diagnose, treat or cure a condition; nor is it to be considered medical or legal advice, opinion or recommendation. This information is presented in the spirit of service for all.* 0:00 - Prepping, Luxury Fasting & Gamifying the Apocalypse 0:38 - Introduction 5:43 - Tom Sawyer 13:23 - Words Don't Teach 24:08 - What It Means to Be Human? 33:58 - Finding The Sweet Spot 43:57 - Layers of Co-Creation & Thought Energy 56:13 - Navigating Your Thoughts Through the Worry1:04:49 - Its All Made Up 1:12:51 - Mirrored Reflections of Frequency 1:22:27 - Expanding Outward and Prepping 1:36:13 - Resources and Trusting Yourself 1:46:55 - Perspective on Survival with Water Storage and Food 1:58:37 - Finding Your Purpose in the Apocalypse 2:12:38 - Us vs. Them Situation  2:17:56 - Things That Are Overlooked in Prepping 2:25:50 - Closing Thoughts  

How can coaching and authentic relationships transform not only your business but also your entire life?   In this episode of the Million Dollar Relationships podcast, Kevin welcomes Jamey Schrier, a physical therapist turned business coach, to explore the profound impact of coaching and meaningful relationships in his journey. Jamey shares candid insights from his personal and professional experiences, including the challenges of building his own practice and the transformations he underwent through key relationships. He emphasizes how authentic relationships and mentorship can unlock one's potential, push through mental blocks, and guide entrepreneurs to success beyond just financial gains.      [00:01 - 08:19] The Power of Connection The impact of meeting people through trusted mutual connections Why shared values are the foundation of lasting relationships The ripple effect of influencing others through relationships   [08:20 - 16:55] A Therapist's Journey to Entrepreneurship Transitioning from physical therapist to business owner The challenges of managing staff and growing a business The realization that business success requires more than just technical expertise   [16:56 - 24:22] Breaking Free from Burnout The turning point when Jamey decided to stop treating patients How reducing his workload led to a 20% business growth The importance of setting boundaries for personal and professional well-being   [24:23 - 32:02] Life-Changing Relationships Key mentors like Dan Sullivan, Jesse Elder, and Walt Hampton that shaped Jamey's journey The value of coaches who challenge and inspire personal growth How each of these relationships contributed to Jamey's success   [32:03 - 37:03] Overcoming Money Blocks The mental shifts necessary to charge what you're worth How Jesse Elder helped Jamey break through his limiting beliefs around money The importance of understanding the value you bring to clients     Key Quotes:     "The only thing you really have control over is just showing up as the authentic and genuine you." - Jamey Schrier   “The more you step into your true self, the more you connect with great people, and the more confidence you build in how you show up.” - Jamey Schrier       Connect with Jamey:   Website: https://www.practicefreedomu.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameyschrier  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jamey.schrier       Honoring: Dan, Jesse, Lee, and Walt     Thanks for tuning in!   If you liked my show, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, and subscribe!    Find me on the following streaming platforms:   Apple Spotify Google Podcasts IHeart Radio Stitcher

In today's episode, I sat down with the one and only Jesse Elder for a deep conversation about self-awareness, personal growth, and how to navigate uncertain times with confidence.We talk about the power of meditation, the importance of authentic communication, and why living an interesting life is more valuable than ever in today's world. Jesse shares some incredible insights from his own journey—everything from cross-country train adventures to the idea of a 'hedonic reset.'We dive into what it really means to trust yourself, create genuine value, and break free from societal norms to live a life of passion and contribution. Press play and:Embrace life as improv to stay flexible and open to new experiencesUtilize the pause between stimulus and response to protect and improve mental healthLive an interesting life to fuel creativity and broaden your perspectiveCommunicate authentically to build trust and drive revenue in your businessBreak free from institutional limitations and reconnect with your true selfIf you're ready to get inspired and shake things up, you'll want to follow Jesse on Instagram and Facebook.You can also listen to this special episode featuring a 4-phase guided meditation, designed to create powerful transformations. Also, if you're ready to take this work further, join us at our next event—mark your calendar for November 14th-16th in Montana. You won't want to miss this transformative experience!–We weren't meant to do this alone… Whether it be business, relationships, or life. This is why this is an invitation for you…to join us inside the Relationships Beat Algorithms Alliance!!!Click here for a summary of the Alliance because if you're coming here into the show notes, there's a good chance you already know! ;)—We've made it easy to see George's top 10 book recommendations! Click here to find George's top 10 recommended books for mindset, customer journey, and relationships. —Questions or comments about the episode? I'd love to hear from you! Send me a DM over on Instagram @itsgeorgebryant or pop on over to our free Facebook community, Relationship Beat Algorithms. —Links not showing? Hop on over to our podcast blog, mindofgeorge.com/podcast for all the links from the show notes.—What do we talk about in this episode?00:00 Introduction to an Insightful Episode00:36 The Power of Perspective and Meditation01:05 Living Well: Jesse's Unique Life Story01:28 Entrepreneurial Insights and Business Wisdom01:54 The Trap of Split Attention and Delegated Certainty02:10 Coaching and Communication: The Real Deal02:36 The Importance of Being Valuable and Useful02:49 Jesse's Hedonic Reset and Life Lessons03:22 Meet Jesse Elder: A Heartfelt Introduction05:51 The State of the World and Personal Focus16:23 The Art of Meditation: Jesse's Approach26:49 The Journey of Self-Trust and Authenticity36:28 Jesse's Martial Arts Journey and Life Lessons40:59 The Fight Night Revelation42:44 A New Philosophy: Is It Useful?43:35 Challenging Conventional Wisdom44:52 The Illusion of Authority46:06 The Reality of Coaching47:14 Anchoring in Reality48:26 The Power of Communication50:24 Living Authentically01:01:40 Navigating Uncertainty01:06:28 The Adventure of Life01:07:39 The Hedonic Reset

Enjoy this episode? Please share it with at least ONE friend who you think needs to hear it! Join us as we explore the journey of becoming an action philosopher with Jesse Elder. Key Discussion Points: Journey to Becoming an Action Philosopher: Discover how Jesse Elder transitioned into becoming an action philosopher and what this journey entailed. Time Piercing Technique: Learn about Jesse's unique time piercing technique and how it works. Spectrum of Prayers: Explore the two ends of the spectrum that people engage in when it comes to prayers. Freedom and Responsibility: Understand why freedom is a product of responsibility. Loneliness: Discuss how loneliness has influenced Jesse's path. Human Imagination: Delve into the uniqueness of human imagination and its power. Creating Your Own Future: Discover the uniqueness in creating your own future. About Jesse Elder: Jesse Elder is an action philosopher, time piercer, author, mentor, speaker, entrepreneur, and lover of life. Through the Mind Vitamin™ video series, Jesse teaches "Self Mastery for the real world." People from all walks of life and levels of influence use these videos to focus their thinking and enhance their productivity and happiness.   Connect with Jesse Elder: Website: jesseelder.com Facebook: facebook.com/pg/timepiercer Instagram: instagram.com/timepiercer   The Way Forward podcast is sponsored by: NEW BIOLOGY CLINIC: Experience individually tailored terrain-based health services with virtual consults, practitioner livestreams, movement classes, and more. The New Biology Clinic's motivation is to make you healthy and keep you that way. Visit https://NewBiologyClinic.com and enter code TheWayForward for $50 off your activation fee. Members of The Way Forward get the full activation fee waived. Become a member of The Way Forward here: https://thewayfwrd.com/membership-sign-up/ ————————— ORGANIC MUSCLE: Organic Muscle is revolutionizing sports nutrition by exclusively utilizing non-GMO ingredients from USDA Organic farms. Experience the fusion of organic purity and scientific excellence at https://organicmuscle.com, and unlock a 15% discount with code "FORWARD15" at checkout. ————————— BIOPTIMIZERS: Magnesium Breakthrough from Bioptimizers delivers 7 different forms of magnesium, free from additives, and made with the highest quality all-natural ingredients. Treat your mind and body to this full-spectrum solution. Visit https://bioptimizers.com/alec and use promo code "ALEC10" at checkout! ————————— For more on The Way Forward, please visit: https://thewayfwrd.com Visit our online marketplace for discounts on a variety of the best holistic health brands and products: https://thewayfwrd.com/store/ For all of our links, visit: https://www.flowcode.com/page/thewayforward Support The Way Forward and Alec's work: https://thewayfwrd.com/donate/ FIND YOUR PEOPLE! Join The Way Forward to connect with like minded men and women near you, businesses near you, and more! The best part? You pay whatever you want!: https://thewayfwrd.com/membership-sign-up/ Do you run a freedom-oriented or holistic health-oriented business? Join our FREE business directory here: https://thewayfwrd.com/directory-form/ You can watch The Way Forward Podcast on YouTube, Unite, Bitchute & Rumble Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheWayFwrd Unite: https://unite.live/channels/the-way-forward/the-way-forward Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/a3s3CiyELVd8/ Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/TheWayFwrd ————————— *This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed in whole or in part without expressed written permission from The Way Forward, LLC. The purpose of this presentation is to convey information. It is not intended to diagnose, treat or cure a condition; nor is it to be considered medical or legal advice, opinion or recommendation. This information is presented in the spirit of service for all.*   0:00 - Time Piercing 1:45 - Introductions 3:23 - What Do You Remember About This Episode? 8:38 - Pendulums in Life 22:45 - Cultivation of Freedom and Responsibility  32:47 - Intense Need For Relationship 45:10 - Meaning and Purpose and Knowing the Truth 53:55 - Finding Authentic Expression  1:00:07 - Externally Controlled Timelines 1:14:08 - Processing Trauma and Past 1:23:02 - Time Piercing: How It Works 1:39:15 - 100% Self Reliability 1:44:50 - The Creator and I Are One 1:57:00 - Why Am I Glad This Happened? 2:01:30 - I'm Happy For You 2:10:52 - Closing Thoughts  

Welcome back to Making Bank. In today's episode, we have a compilation of previous episodes with James P Friel, Jesse Elder, Justin Donald, Sean Mccormick, Scott Lynn, Rich Diviney and Bobby Castro and in this episode you will hear tips and tricks from top entrepreneurs about the guide to success.   (2:43) James P Friel  That high level vision is awesome but it can be a blessing and a curse at the same time if you pull the trigger and start building stuff without knowing what you're building.   (8:29) Jesse Elder The best you can do as an entrepreneur is to put yourself first, in terms of your mental health, your emotional wellness, because in times of chaos, it's the calm, resilient person who becomes a leader by default.   (13:05) Justin Donald Usually entrepreneurs have such a great skill set and they're kings and queens of the world and they think they're going to have the same success when they invest but they fall flat on their faces, 99% of the time.   (18:34) Sean Mccormick  There are a lot of people around you that do not want to see you be happy. They do not want to see you calm and relaxed. They don't want to see that because they're relying on you to continue to crush, to continue to hustle, to generate income because they're dependent on you for that.   (22:46) Scott Lynn Real assets are going to skyrocket in value because of the devaluation of the dollar in particular and a lot of investors are signing up under that same thesis.    (26:29) Rich Diviney Peak performance is simply an apex, and it is an apex from which you can only come down. Peak performance has to be planned for, scheduled , trained for and conditioned.    (32:19) Bobby Castro “Bobby Castro used to sit there too in my own misery and was completely stuck for so many years until I said there is a solution. The solution is us.”   Tags: @james__p__friel  @timepiercer  @justindonald  @realseanmccormick  @rich_diviney  @officialbobbycastro    

Welcome back to Making Bank. In today's episode, we have a compilation of previous episodes with James P Friel, Jesse Elder, Justin Donald, Sean Mccormick, Scott Lynn, Rich Diviney and Bobby Castro and in this episode you will hear tips and tricks from top entrepreneurs about the guide to success.   (2:43) James P Friel  That high level vision is awesome but it can be a blessing and a curse at the same time if you pull the trigger and start building stuff without knowing what you're building.   (8:29) Jesse Elder The best you can do as an entrepreneur is to put yourself first, in terms of your mental health, your emotional wellness, because in times of chaos, it's the calm, resilient person who becomes a leader by default.   (13:05) Justin Donald Usually entrepreneurs have such a great skill set and they're kings and queens of the world and they think they're going to have the same success when they invest but they fall flat on their faces, 99% of the time.   (18:34) Sean Mccormick  There are a lot of people around you that do not want to see you be happy. They do not want to see you calm and relaxed. They don't want to see that because they're relying on you to continue to crush, to continue to hustle, to generate income because they're dependent on you for that.   (22:46) Scott Lynn Real assets are going to skyrocket in value because of the devaluation of the dollar in particular and a lot of investors are signing up under that same thesis.    (26:29) Rich Diviney Peak performance is simply an apex, and it is an apex from which you can only come down. Peak performance has to be planned for, scheduled , trained for and conditioned.    (32:19) Bobby Castro “Bobby Castro used to sit there too in my own misery and was completely stuck for so many years until I said there is a solution. The solution is us.”   Tags: @james__p__friel  @timepiercer  @justindonald  @realseanmccormick  @rich_diviney  @officialbobbycastro    

Welcome back to Making Bank. In today's episode, we have a compilation of previous episodes with James P Friel, Jesse Elder, Justin Donald, Sean Mccormick, Scott Lynn, Rich Diviney, and Bobby Castro and in this episode, you will hear tips and tricks from top entrepreneurs about the guide to success. (2:43) James P Friel That high-level vision is awesome but it can be a blessing and a curse at the same time if you pull the trigger and start building stuff without knowing what you're building. (8:29) Jesse Elder The best you can do as an entrepreneur is to put yourself first, in terms of your mental health, and your emotional wellness, because in times of chaos, it's the calm, resilient person who becomes a leader by default. (13:05) Justin Donald Usually, entrepreneurs have such a great skill set and they're kings and queens of the world and they think they're going to have the same success when they invest but they fall flat on their faces, 99% of the time. (18:34) Sean Mccormick There are a lot of people around you that do not want to see you be happy. They do not want to see you calm and relaxed. They don't want to see that because they're relying on you to continue to crush, to continue to hustle, to generate income because they're dependent on you for that. (22:46) Scott Lynn Real assets are going to skyrocket in value because of the devaluation of the dollar in particular and a lot of investors are signing up under that same thesis. (26:29) Rich Diviney Peak performance is simply an apex, and it is an apex from which you can only come down. Peak performance has to be planned for, scheduled , trained for and conditioned. (32:19) Bobby Castro “Bobby Castro used to sit there too in my own misery and was completely stuck for so many years until I said there is a solution. The solution is us.” Tags: @james__p__friel @timepiercer @justindonald @realseanmccormick @rich_diviney @officialbobbycastro

Welcome back to Making Bank. In today's episode, we have a compilation of previous episodes with James P Friel, Jesse Elder, Justin Donald, Sean Mccormick, Scott Lynn, Rich Diviney, and Bobby Castro and in this episode, you will hear tips and tricks from top entrepreneurs about the guide to success. (2:43) James P Friel That high-level vision is awesome but it can be a blessing and a curse at the same time if you pull the trigger and start building stuff without knowing what you're building. (8:29) Jesse Elder The best you can do as an entrepreneur is to put yourself first, in terms of your mental health, and your emotional wellness, because in times of chaos, it's the calm, resilient person who becomes a leader by default. (13:05) Justin Donald Usually, entrepreneurs have such a great skill set and they're kings and queens of the world and they think they're going to have the same success when they invest but they fall flat on their faces, 99% of the time. (18:34) Sean Mccormick There are a lot of people around you that do not want to see you be happy. They do not want to see you calm and relaxed. They don't want to see that because they're relying on you to continue to crush, to continue to hustle, to generate income because they're dependent on you for that. (22:46) Scott Lynn Real assets are going to skyrocket in value because of the devaluation of the dollar in particular and a lot of investors are signing up under that same thesis. (26:29) Rich Diviney Peak performance is simply an apex, and it is an apex from which you can only come down. Peak performance has to be planned for, scheduled , trained for and conditioned. (32:19) Bobby Castro “Bobby Castro used to sit there too in my own misery and was completely stuck for so many years until I said there is a solution. The solution is us.” Tags: @james__p__friel @timepiercer @justindonald @realseanmccormick @rich_diviney @officialbobbycastro

Had a lot of fun with one of my mentors on this show: Jesse Elder!    Jesse is an OG coach, author, mentor, speaker, entrepreneur, & former fighter. He's an expert at “playing his game”, and doing it well; and if zombies attack, you will want to know what he knows.   What is a quite dysfunctional Chihuahua today stems from a fierce Timber Wolf in the past.    Likewise, in our modern world, we have become increasingly domesticated. The difference between us and the Chihuahua: we can choose to change in this lifetime, and create a life from total freedom.   Tune in with us and learn about Chihuahuas and Wolves, bringing childlike joy back into your life & business, how to be a lighthouse for your community, why you get to make good CASH as a spiritual practitioner, and much more.   Let's GO.

Jesse Elder is a motivational speaker, mentor, and performance coach who has helped thousands of people create a life of freedom and fulfillment by rediscovering their passion and building their life around it. In 2012, Jesse left a massively successful multi-million dollar business to create a life built on creative abundance instead of competition. That decision led him to create his Mind Vitamin videos that have touched hundreds of thousands worldwide and coach high-achievers such as Tony Robbins's #1 sales guy.

On this week's episode of Investing On Purpose, JP sits down with Jesse Elder to talk about creativity and purpose for Entrepreneurs. Jesse is an Entrepreneur, Coach, Philosopher, Black Belt, and Explorer who helps Entrepreneurs live a fuller, more fulfilled life. In this episode, we dive into what it means to live your purpose, the role of creativity, and how we can use numbers to enhance our experience of life.  If you enjoyed the episode, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with us on social media @investingonpurpose Let us know what you thought about the show by emailing investingonpurpose@gmail.com  

Are you feeling stuck in your life and unsure of how to move forward? I was in the same boat until I discovered the power of active appreciation. In my latest podcast episode, I share my personal story of how appreciation has transformed my life and how it can transform yours too. During a walk by the lake, I was struck by the beauty of the scenery, and it reminded me of the importance of appreciation in my life. I realized that active appreciation is a gateway to growth, expansion, and wealth. My friend Jesse Elder once said, "What you appreciate, appreciates," and I couldn't agree more. When you appreciate things, it draws more of it into your life because you are focused on it. "When I appreciate things it draws more of it into my life because I'm concentrating on it, I'm focused on it, and I'm appreciating it." - Dr. Jeff Buske What you will learn -  Importance of Active Appreciation Wealth is a Feeling Expressing Wealth To connect with Dr. Buske follow the links below -  LinkedIn Instagram Facebook Limitless Dentist Academy --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ididntsignupforthis/message

Welcome once again to The Million Dollar Relationships podcast! Today, we are celebrating our 100th episode; along with it, we have an incredible guest who shares a story that will give you goosebumps; the great Alok Appadurai. Alok is an author, entrepreneur, investor, and the founder and CEO of Uplift Millions, a coaching and training platform that helps people move from solopreneurs to movement-making CEO's of impact-driven companies that transform people's lives. He lives in Tucson, AZ, with his partner, Caitlin, and his son, Sequoia. In today's episode, Alok shares a life-changing experience while driving through India. He encountered his 80-year-old self, leading him to question his life and career. He founded Uplift Millions, a global coaching company for mission-driven entrepreneurs, encouraging them to leave a meaningful legacy. A transformative moment at 19 led him to focus on creating mission-driven companies that help people in need. He encourages others to connect with their future selves but warns that it can be intense and not for everyone. The rewards, however, can be immense.   Join us as we delve deeper into this fascinating conversation about discovering your true purpose in life, leaving a lasting impact on society, and connecting with your future self. If you're seeking inspiration on how to lead a fulfilling life with purpose, then this is an episode you won't want to miss!   [00:00 - 14:19] Creating a Legacy That Matters ·       Alok Appadurai is the founder and CEO of Uplift Millions and a passionate leader who believes in the power of contribution and the importance of creating a legacy that matters. ·       Uplift Millions is a global coaching and consulting company that assists mission-driven entrepreneurs in scaling their six to eight-figure companies. ·       Alok is committed to making an impact in the world by playing full out and giving his all. ·       Alok shares the incredible story of how he connected with his 80-year self, who guided him to make the most impactful decision in his life.   [14:19 - 23:37] Connecting with Your Inner-Self ·       Alok shares the incredible story of how he connected with his 80-year self, who guided him to make the most impactful decision in his life. ·       He realized that he needed to change direction or risk being stuck in a career they didn't want. ·       He went back to college and rebuilt their major, focusing on race, class, and gender. ·       This led to building four mission-driven companies in Cleantech, Global Media for Women, sustainable clothing, and now running Up With Millions. ·       Alok talks about his friend Jesse Elder, who practices "time piercing," or talking with different versions of oneself for guidance.    [23:37 - 24:48] Closing Statements ·         Follow Alok's LinkedIn and Facebook. Also, be sure to check his webpage at https://www.upliftmillions.com   Thanks for tuning in!    If you liked my show, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, and subscribe!    Find me on the following streaming platforms: Apple Spotify Google Podcasts IHeart Radio Stitcher     Tweetable Quotes   " Meet the most transformative person who can change your life and business. Listen, have the courage to ask, to listen, and to act upon what is revealed. Tune in to that version of you.” – Alok Appadurai  

How can building a community help increase safety and support in our lives? In this episode, Jesse Elder dives deep into the distinction between freedom and liberty. He discusses his perspective on how people often give away their agency to external authority figures and how taking responsibility leads to freedom. He shares how gamifying liberty can help entrepreneurs and coaches achieve financial freedom and the importance of training relentlessly to achieve one's goals and building a community for safety and support. This conversation covers various topics, including the challenges and rewards of playing the entrepreneurial rollercoaster and the benefits of gamifying marketing and service. Listen and enjoy![00:01 - 07:14] Unpacking the Difference Between Freedom and Liberty[07:15 - 14:36] The Entrepreneurial Rollercoaster and Private Member Associations[14:37 - 22:00] Creating a Self-Reliant Community through a Faith-Based Organization[22:01 - 27:46] Wrapping Up!Key Quotes:“Freedom is just a concept. Liberty is what you activate, and you bring into your life.” - Jesse ElderLet's get connected!You can find me on LinkedIn, Instagram,  Facebook & Youtube. Head to Voltage Digital Marketing to boost your brand and sales exposure!If you liked the show, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, and subscribe through your favorite streaming platform!

Everyone wants to find their purpose and operate from that place, but what if we are chasing our purpose in the wrong way? Purpose is not something you have to achieve, it is what you are. You are either allowing yourself to be who and what you are, or you are restricting who and what you are. Every person has a unique function and by being who you are meant to be, there are amazing byproducts. Jesse Elder helps people dig into who they truly are and live a life that is authentically aligned with that unique purpose and vision. Jesse Elder is a speaker, mentor, entrepreneur, and all-around lover of life. He has devoted his life to sharing his principles of self-mastery with people all around the world. Through his popular Mind Vitamin videos, online courses, events, and private coaching, Jesse teaches others how to create their own success and fulfillment, reclaim their personal freedom, and master their reality.  In this episode of the 365 Driven podcast, Jesse shares his upbringing of being homeschooled, watching his dad get arrested and go to prison for standing up for his beliefs, and how that shaped his view of the world. Jesse talks about his experience growing up learning martial arts, and how getting into a fight at 19 gave him the reality check that propelled him to question everything he thought he knew. He realized everyone feels like they know the truth, but we all can't think the same thing about everything. Jesse had been seeking the truth, but he came to realize that he never actually wanted to feel as though he had arrived at the truth. He stopped asking what is true and started asking what is useful. Tune in for more. Key highlights: The purpose of pain Our relationship with fear The problem with inauthenticity  How to stay connected to your intuition How Jesse helps people connect to their true purpose How to be emotionally sovereign  A simple exercise to get connected to your purpose  How to create content that people will resonate with For resources and links mentioned in this episode, visit: 365driven.com/episode297

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  This week we have Donny Sammis on the podcast. Donny is a state trooper, energy worker and coach who helps people return to their own power. In this episode we dive into why Donny became a state trooper and how he approaches things in a different way. He dives into how he weaves spirituality into his work and shares some intense stories on the job and how they've helped shape the man he is today.   Joinhttps://t.me/+ULfEg5cl4LFiNWYx ( The Härt Collective) to connect with Joe and other heart-led leaders who are passionate about following their own inner calling!    Subscribe to The Härt Collective'shttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkeTzPnTNtUHR7Uz9-TwlUA ( Youtube Channel)   If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 ( Apple Podcasts)   Connect with Donny Instagram |https://www.instagram.com/the.donny.sammis/ ( the.donny.sammis)   Connect with The Härt Collective and your host, Joe Hawley: Website |https://www.hartcollective.org/ ( The Härt Collective) Instagram |https://www.instagram.com/the.hart.collective/ ( @the.hart.collective ) Facebook |https://www.facebook.com/thehartcollectivecommunity/ ( The Härt Collective) LinkedIn |http://linkedin.com/in/joe-hawley ( Joe Hawley) Instagram |https://www.instagram.com/joe.hawley/ ( @joe.hawley)     Are you ready to find deeper meaning and purpose in life? Joinhttps://www.hartcollective.org/membership ( The Härt Collective) and some of our upcominghttps://www.hartcollective.org/retreats ( events). Your tribe awaits!   Looking for remote work? Check outhttp://www.growmotely.com/companies?afmc=thc ( growmotely.com)   Check out my reality based podcast,https://www.lovenlifepodcast.com/ ( Love 'n Life)   If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 ( Apple Podcasts)   Join host Joe Hawley, founder of The Härt Collective, as he drops you into the heart. With a mix of valuable solocasts, and inspirational guests this show will provide you with powerful insights to help support you on your journey towards personal transformation, growth and healing.    Joe is a former NFL athlete whose passion lies in supporting the evolution and awakening of humanity. After retiring from the NFL in 2017, he went on a journey of self-discovery and healing that proved to be the catalyst for the work he's been called to do in the world. He founded The Härt Collective in 2020 with one question in mind: how do we facilitate healing at scale? In his experience, being a part of a strong, supportive community is the key.    Join the growing community of individuals who are ready to usher in a more beautiful world. Let's learn, grow and connect as we continue to ask the right questions and support each other in our individual and collective evolution.    Inspirations for the show include Aubrey Marcus, Russell Brand, Duncan Trussell, Zach Bush, Jesse Elder, Deepak Chopra, Tim Kennedy and so many more.    Special thanks to my podcast producer,https://www.instagram.com/grahamdern/ ( Graham Dern) for being the creative talent behind the music heard in this episode!

In this episode Joe riffs about his time in the NFL, what he learned along the way, and how the business side of the NFL took away his love for the game. He also breaks down when he knew it was time to step away, the loss of identity that comes with a profession that has come to identify who you are, and his new passion for heart-led leadership.   Joinhttps://t.me/+ULfEg5cl4LFiNWYx ( The Härt Collective) to connect with Joe and other heart-led leaders who are passionate about following their own inner calling!    Subscribe to The Härt Collective'shttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkeTzPnTNtUHR7Uz9-TwlUA ( Youtube Channel)   If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 ( Apple Podcasts)     Connect with The Härt Collective and your host, Joe Hawley: Website |https://www.hartcollective.org/ ( The Härt Collective) Instagram |https://www.instagram.com/the.hart.collective/ ( @the.hart.collective ) Facebook |https://www.facebook.com/thehartcollectivecommunity/ ( The Härt Collective) LinkedIn |http://linkedin.com/in/joe-hawley ( Joe Hawley) Instagram |https://www.instagram.com/joe.hawley/ ( @joe.hawley)     Are you ready to find deeper meaning and purpose in life? Joinhttps://www.hartcollective.org/membership ( The Härt Collective) and some of our upcominghttps://www.hartcollective.org/retreats ( events). Your tribe awaits!   Looking for remote work? Check outhttp://www.growmotely.com/companies?afmc=thc ( growmotely.com)   Check out my reality based podcast,https://www.lovenlifepodcast.com/ ( Love 'n Life)   If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 ( Apple Podcasts)   Join host Joe Hawley, founder of The Härt Collective, as he drops you into the heart. With a mix of valuable solocasts, and inspirational guests this show will provide you with powerful insights to help support you on your journey towards personal transformation, growth and healing.    Joe is a former NFL athlete whose passion lies in supporting the evolution and awakening of humanity. After retiring from the NFL in 2017, he went on a journey of self-discovery and healing that proved to be the catalyst for the work he's been called to do in the world. He founded The Härt Collective in 2020 with one question in mind: how do we facilitate healing at scale? In his experience, being a part of a strong, supportive community is the key.    Join the growing community of individuals who are ready to usher in a more beautiful world. Let's learn, grow and connect as we continue to ask the right questions and support each other in our individual and collective evolution.    Inspirations for the show include Aubrey Marcus, Russell Brand, Duncan Trussell, Zach Bush, Jesse Elder, Deepak Chopra, Tim Kennedy and so many more.    Special thanks to my podcast producer,https://www.instagram.com/grahamdern/ ( Graham Dern) for being the creative talent behind the music heard in this episode!

Welcome to another episode of Drop Into the Härt! In this vulnerable solo-cast, Joe breaks down what he calls his “inner-addict” and his recent explorations with dopamine detoxing. After breaking down some of his early experiences with substances, he opens up about a recent trip to Las Vegas where he was able to gain clarity about this side of himself and his tendency to chase peak experiences. His reflection led him to taking 30 days off of essentially every habit and substance that he noticed himself partaking in unconsciously. The result was a new perspective on his constant “chasing” and how regulating his dopamine can lead to greater levels of clarity and harmony in life.   Joinhttps://t.me/+ULfEg5cl4LFiNWYx ( The Härt Collective) to connect with Joe and other heart-led leaders who are passionate about following their own inner calling!    Subscribe to The Härt Collective'shttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkeTzPnTNtUHR7Uz9-TwlUA ( Youtube Channel)   If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 ( Apple Podcasts)     Connect with The Härt Collective and your host, Joe Hawley: Website |https://www.hartcollective.org/ ( The Härt Collective) Instagram |https://www.instagram.com/the.hart.collective/ ( @the.hart.collective ) Facebook |https://www.facebook.com/thehartcollectivecommunity/ ( The Härt Collective) LinkedIn |http://linkedin.com/in/joe-hawley ( Joe Hawley) Instagram |https://www.instagram.com/joe.hawley/ ( @joe.hawley)     Are you ready to find deeper meaning and purpose in life? Joinhttps://www.hartcollective.org/membership ( The Härt Collective) and some of our upcominghttps://www.hartcollective.org/retreats ( events). Your tribe awaits!   Looking for remote work? Check outhttp://www.growmotely.com/companies?afmc=thc ( growmotely.com)   Check out my reality based podcast,https://www.lovenlifepodcast.com/ ( Love 'n Life)   If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 ( Apple Podcasts)   Join host Joe Hawley, founder of The Härt Collective, as he drops you into the heart. With a mix of valuable solocasts, and inspirational guests this show will provide you with powerful insights to help support you on your journey towards personal transformation, growth and healing.    Joe is a former NFL athlete whose passion lies in supporting the evolution and awakening of humanity. After retiring from the NFL in 2017, he went on a journey of self-discovery and healing that proved to be the catalyst for the work he's been called to do in the world. He founded The Härt Collective in 2020 with one question in mind: how do we facilitate healing at scale? In his experience, being a part of a strong, supportive community is the key.    Join the growing community of individuals who are ready to usher in a more beautiful world. Let's learn, grow and connect as we continue to ask the right questions and support each other in our individual and collective evolution.    Inspirations for the show include Aubrey Marcus, Russell Brand, Duncan Trussell, Zach Bush, Jesse Elder, Deepak Chopra, Tim Kennedy and so many more.    Special thanks to my podcast producer,https://www.instagram.com/grahamdern/ ( Graham Dern) for being the creative talent behind the music heard in this episode!

00:00.00 mikebledsoe Oh last too bad. Yeah, it's great. It's great. 00:00.00 Dr_ Placebo All on my end I Still don't see it look. Do you see that see the levels. There's nothing there. You think it's great that we can only hear you talking on the recording is that what you're telling me. 00:15.28 mikebledsoe Now I can we can hear you just fine. We're working on Max's audio again. Um, how's your week ben. 00:17.27 Dr_ Placebo If you say So oh. 00:28.30 Dr_ Placebo My week's been good. How about you. 00:33.35 mikebledsoe Ah, man, it's been ah, it's been a lot of lot of fun I'm I'm rereading a book right now dollars flow to me easily by Richard dots and highly recommend it to anyone who well. Wants easy transformation. So that's really the book has little to do with money has everything to do with ah creating an inner state that ah of goodness allowing that to emerge and then ah. 01:00.62 Dr_ Placebo Oh. 01:10.26 mikebledsoe Allowing the universe to deliver all your intentions and desires to your doorstep. So if if money is what you need to reach your desires then you know I find that when I find that inner peace and goodness and just sit in that. Really cool things. Emerge. 01:33.25 Dr_ Placebo Kind of reminds me with ah dog training that it's not about training the dog. It's about training the person a lot of the time and as far as creative work is concerned if you are in a. 01:42.60 mikebledsoe Um, yeah for. 01:49.42 Dr_ Placebo Ah heightened state of some kind whether that's a flow state or otherwise you're just going to do your best work right. 01:55.49 mikebledsoe Yeah, you know what? I Also find that I've never figured anything out in Business. It's never been. You know there's definitely things to Learn. There's skills to learn. You know, managing finances and budgets and. Learning how to copyright and all these things are really useful skills and it doesn't mean you need you, You should avoid learning anything but it ah for me to sit with oh I'm going to sit and think my way to a solution when I'm having a problem is rarely. 02:26.51 Dr_ Placebo What. 02:32.43 mikebledsoe Ah, how it works out I can't even think of a time where I thought my way to a solution most of the solutions that have occurred to me has just been. You know you're in the shower or something or ah, you know I'm thinking about something I go to the fridge. 02:37.25 Dr_ Placebo Um. 02:43.83 Dr_ Placebo And. 02:49.87 Dr_ Placebo Who. 02:50.15 mikebledsoe So it's um, yeah, what I like about this book is it really puts me in that place of just observing what's good and then watching these things these ideas emerge and I definitely had that experience yesterday and um. 03:03.19 Dr_ Placebo O. 03:09.23 mikebledsoe Was being interviewed by John North um of weightlifting talk and he he and I had like similar rises of notoriety in the in the weightlifting Crossfit world and like at the same time and then also had you know. 03:24.60 Dr_ Placebo Ah. 03:27.79 mikebledsoe Kind of disappeared into the ether around the same time I I ah regularly get hit up by people on Instagram or Twitter and they're like oh shit, you're still alive like yeah yeah, still hanging out still doing some stuff and we had he. He. 03:30.30 Dr_ Placebo And. 03:37.52 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, yeah. Um, funny wo who. 03:47.14 mikebledsoe He asked me he goes he goes look. We can talk about all the good stuff we could talk about the good times. But why don't you tell us about the dark moments in your career in business I was like oh boy, Oh boy I can deliver that. 04:01.74 Dr_ Placebo Um. O. 04:05.32 mikebledsoe There's some dark moments. And yeah I don't know how long the show went on for it felt like 2 hours and it was you know I think it's the most emotional I've ever been on a podcast I don't think I've ever been interviewed and gotten that emotional. 04:09.82 Dr_ Placebo Whoa. 04:14.54 Dr_ Placebo Whoo. 04:19.92 Dr_ Placebo Woo Whoa. Oh. 04:25.11 mikebledsoe And um, yeah I really just I but basically I covered the year of 2017 for me and I didn't go through the whole year in detail but I went through the the thing a lot of the stuff that you know it's a good story. So I recommend anyone go listen to that. Um. 04:45.43 mikebledsoe Ah, do weightlifting dot com and you click on the podcasts. Ah and it was.. It was so emotional and it brought up. You know? Ah, Ah, you know if I could label the emotions. It was just there were it was just ah, a constant flow so much. So like I don't think I felt my emotions that deeply for that period that extended period of time in a very long time and when I got off the show. My fiance she she went off to dinner with a friend of hers. So I go sit in the sauna afterwards and meditate and just Sawa and cold plunge and then came home and got in bed and it. It occurred to me I was like this story that this story of 2017 is there's so many lessons that I learned that I really a lot of times I share the lessons in a very straightforward way but not in. But I could be sharing it from a place of storytelling which as you know that's the best way to get a point across is if you can embed it in a story. 05:52.98 Dr_ Placebo So. 06:00.80 Dr_ Placebo We need an arc with no arc no one care. No one cares without an arc. It might be true. It might be correct, but no one cares and that's been ah that's been something that I have hardly capitalized on much. 06:03.72 mikebledsoe Yeah, so no one cares. 06:17.43 Dr_ Placebo Because I don't care about the story interestingly enough I just want the I want the bullet points I want them in the correct sequence and I want as little fluff as possible but that's just not how people work. 06:23.76 mikebledsoe I yeah. 06:34.10 mikebledsoe No yeah mean we live by narratives and archetypes and archetypes is even a narrative about a type of person and ah you know? And yeah, so in in the world of you know speakers you know. 06:35.16 Dr_ Placebo The. 06:51.61 mikebledsoe I know you know this is every great speaker has got their keynote story and speakers that have been around for a long time people who get on stage. They'll have 2 or 3 depending on the situation and I've had so many I've had like so many they. So. 06:55.80 Dr_ Placebo A good. 07:10.83 mikebledsoe Speaking Coaches Love targeting me as a client they're like okay you know you're you're good on Stage. You're good at telling stories all this but you haven't really honed in on a story that converts people into a product that you're selling or a service. Or whatever and I go Yeah, you know, ah all the greats. The people who can sell a lot. They do it through storytelling and I've tried different stories and nothing really nothing really stuck. Nothing was super powerful and. 07:48.58 mikebledsoe I'm in bed last night and I'm I'm simply in the fields of my feelings and emergency goes. Oh that's that's the story. You should tell because these guys were on the edge of their seat at the end they were blown away they were it was it was obvious it was and I had never told the story in. 07:56.13 Dr_ Placebo Are. 08:07.62 mikebledsoe That much detail before on a podcast partly because lawsuits are a part of it and ah you know while lawsuits are going on. You can't go around telling stories about it. But it's ah. 08:19.40 Dr_ Placebo Um I would check with someone who knows these things rather than your hunch. 08:23.37 mikebledsoe I Think enough time has passed I think I'm okay. 08:31.30 mikebledsoe Ah I'm pretty sure. Um, yeah, the contract said something about 3 years and it's been more than three years. So I'm not too worried about it. 08:42.63 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, it's Interesting. You mentioned that because I find I know I'm in the minority but I find ah nothing ah less genuine and more fake when I see a speaker going through this big personal story. I'm like I I want to go like I know what you're trying to do. Can you stop it. You're annoying me like I came here to learn something and if you give me this long thing about your life I'm only going to leave. Basically so I I I know I'm in the minority. Um, with with that. But I mean. 09:02.81 mikebledsoe Okay, yeah. 09:12.55 mikebledsoe You are. 09:17.76 Dr_ Placebo Really successful guys. Ah, really do like Tug the heartstrings they play they play a crowd like a fiddle and it's quite a cool skill. But if I'm in the crowd I I like start to hate that person almost and I hate that person that's too strong but it makes me. 09:30.94 mikebledsoe Yeah there. 09:36.60 Dr_ Placebo It makes me ah feel less connected to them because I know that they're not doing this to provide a service they're doing this to like puff up their character right? who. 09:48.20 mikebledsoe Right? right? Yeah I mean um I think you and I are like in that way and that might be why we avoid you know, telling that story and um. 09:54.98 Dr_ Placebo It depends on what message you're trying to convey to right? like it's possible to tell a good story without making it about yourself right? You can talk about like. 10:08.66 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 10:12.65 Dr_ Placebo Costs and benefits and consequences and archetypes without telling a 20 minute personal story during a 30 minute lecture 10:21.35 mikebledsoe Well one of the most popular one of the most popular books on leadership a couple years ago was extreme ownership and I don't know if you read that is by Jocko willing and the entire the there's like ah a paragraph that gives the lesson embedded in. 10:28.43 Dr_ Placebo Yeah I did. 10:37.93 Dr_ Placebo These war stories. It's worst. It's war stories and I was like what what? yeah. 10:39.20 mikebledsoe this this story it's all war stories war stories with like ah like you could you could have gotten the point in like 2 pages the entire book. But it's buried in all these war stories and everyone loved it and I was like I like I was it was okay. 10:54.25 Dr_ Placebo I Find that? yeah well, what's funny is um, like I I don't like the book I think he is a really interesting character and it's the perfect example. Of who you want to lead a team of killers like but but is that who I want to emulate in my personal life as a leader and it's like I don't think so you know there are qualities that you can pick and choose and that's why it's so tricky to. 11:13.20 mikebledsoe Yes. 11:21.66 mikebledsoe Right. 11:30.89 Dr_ Placebo Pick someone to emulate consciously or subconsciously because you're only ah seeing a window into their life and you may not want their life. Um, right. 11:40.31 mikebledsoe Well in addition to that I mean you referred to dwayne the Rock Johnson in that regard before I think even on the last show but the the and I agree with the Jocko thing there was there were. 11:50.95 Dr_ Placebo That's my go to. 11:56.52 mikebledsoe There were certain things about that book and his attitude that just don't don't jive with me either and it's always been funny because people people are like oh my God It was so good I'm like well what parts are like all of it I'm like ah maybe not all of it. But some of it was Good. Um. And it because we do. We do need to be careful about who we model and. 12:21.57 Dr_ Placebo We're supposed to think that the books are good sometimes sometimes you're just supposed to think a book is good like my ah my friend was really kind. She got me a Tony Robbins book ah his newest who is his newest one life force. 12:33.64 mikebledsoe I who. 12:37.66 Dr_ Placebo Um, and before you think this is a plug This is the opposite of a plug. Whatever I'm about to do right now I was like I was it was fucking unreadable. It was so embarrassing like it was a giant infomercial of widgets that he's invested into. 12:41.84 mikebledsoe Ah me. But. 12:49.41 mikebledsoe A. 12:57.47 Dr_ Placebo Very unclear, very superficial, hardly practical, really like off the-wall shit that applies to nobody I Fucking hated it and of course I told my friend this too I told my friend this I was like that's one of the worst books about health that I think I've ever Read. It was hard to Read. It wasn't Useful. It wasn't simple. It wasn't clear but I really appreciate the gift. You know what? I mean like don't like hey I I Really appreciate that someone would buy a book for me I Think that's really nice but I don't have to like it just because. 13:25.97 mikebledsoe Ah, good effort. 13:36.43 Dr_ Placebo Um, you're supposed to like it and I think that happens quite a lot and. 13:39.62 mikebledsoe Well, you're gonna be my editor for my book. So it's gonna it's gonna have to pass the the max shank Sniff test. 13:47.69 Dr_ Placebo Ah, oh dude, ah call me the copy doced. Yeah copy doctor a doctor the copy up I'm I'm great I'm great at that sort of thing. 13:50.91 mikebledsoe The what the copy Doc Oh okay, all right, all right? Perfect Oh perfect, all right look at that look at that folks. We finally agreed to do something outside of the podcast. So. 14:04.44 Dr_ Placebo Oh perfect. 14:10.16 mikebledsoe Ah, well you brought up something interesting and because ah we are we learn through modeling but we also have anti-models and there are people that we don't want to be like and we got to be ah, equally careful of that. So. There's a number Tony Robbins would fall in this category right? Maybe maybe for you I'm the same way I've never. 14:34.73 Dr_ Placebo I Think he does some great stuff by the way I think there are people that he legitimately helps so much and I think that's fantastic and I think that book was awful. 14:42.98 mikebledsoe I agree. Yeah well I think his style overall is just not for me I don't think you're going to find max and I and a crowd of 10000 people you know psyching ourselves up. It's just not kind of not going to happen and we don't need that we're we're past that. 14:53.93 Dr_ Placebo Woo Totally right? Hey people like different things. 15:01.96 mikebledsoe And people like different things but we're not going to model Tony Robbins you're you're not going to find max or I on stage. You know, screaming at people and getting them pumped up with music and jumping around and it's just not going to happen. And we should. We should just do it just to just a fuck with people like. 15:20.32 Dr_ Placebo Cut to a year we're both on stage with headsets on. Are you guys ready to do fire breathing and then ah. 15:32.28 Dr_ Placebo I would do I would do a fake one I would I would do a fake one and just ah play a character I think that would be hilarious. 15:37.80 mikebledsoe Too bad We don't live in the same town Anymore. We can make a bunch of Spoofs about personal development programs. But ah, we got to be equally Careful. So ah, you know I don't think I shared this with you privately. But I didn't share this On. Podcast and I'll I'll share it I won't mention who this person is but I was hanging out with this person and they refused to wear a seatbelt why because they were because there's a law that says they're supposed to so they just don't want to do it and then the same person. 16:13.64 Dr_ Placebo Rebel without a cause sure. 16:15.25 mikebledsoe Ribble without a cause and the same person opens up their mail at the house opens it up. There's a picture of a license plate and saying you were speeding in the zone or whatever he rips it in half throws in the garbage can he's a god that's the thirteenth one this year and. Ah, and you know I I don't disagree I would handle that differently. But there's a lot of like really easy easy legal ways of getting out of traffic tickets that involve automatic cameras. They pretty much have. You pretty you challenge it at all and they have to drop it because nobody caught you in the act. So ah, the the point is is a lot of times people who who are the rebel without a cause they just rebelling so they they may find some. We could say some people just rebellious in nature like I'm I'm very rebellious you're rebellious I can tell you that you you don't match the status quo heartily at all and yeah, and. 17:18.57 Dr_ Placebo But only because they're really Ill like if they were healthy I would like I I don't even really want to be a rebel I Just want to get a good result. But. 17:26.76 mikebledsoe But to be. Yeah, you're selective right? And so I remember you know I'm in the car with the person and they're not wearing their seatbelt I'm like why you know why didn you put on the seatbelt like yeah, that and I go Well, you know it's it's you're following in the same trap of lack of critical thinking. 17:48.68 Dr_ Placebo Oh. 17:49.85 mikebledsoe You don't want to be like this person so you don't do anything like that person does it like ah Tony Robbins like you were saying there are some aspects of his life that should definitely be emulated. But if you go look I don't like Tony Robbins I'm not can do anything and this is a lot of people and people general. 18:00.13 Dr_ Placebo Yep. 18:07.15 Dr_ Placebo So it's the devil. 18:07.59 mikebledsoe A lot of times generalize this to say wealthy people. Oh I don't wanna be like I don't want to be like that greedy rich guy. So I'm not gonna have any money I'm like you know you can have money without being greedy right? like there's and there's collapsed distinctions in there but you gotta be careful about. 18:20.98 Dr_ Placebo Right? Yep I know Yep, it's the same ah like God and the devil ad hommonym appeal to authority thing. 18:27.37 mikebledsoe Who you're modeling and then who you're anti-modeling. 18:36.32 mikebledsoe Um, yeah, um. 18:36.94 Dr_ Placebo Over and over like if you dislike somebody personally and that causes you to ignore the lesson they have that would help you then you're an idiot you're you're overly emotional and you're conflating this personality that you don't like. Thinking that they are wrong and that's just simply not the case right? You have to be able to dislike somebody and still be able to use your logic to determine whether they're right about something or not and I've had plenty of opportunity to do this because ah, especially. In ah like the copywriting world right? like there's there's a supreme emphasis on exaggerating the truth and maybe even being like a bit of an egomaniac and so those are traits that I really dislike personally and there are even people. 19:18.11 mikebledsoe Um. 19:33.63 Dr_ Placebo That I dislike personally but I still want to take the um the idea separate from the individual. It's like ah is Bill Cosby still funny yes absolutely fucking. Hilarious 1 of the best comedians of all time and whether you think he is ah guilty of certain crimes or not should be irrelevant to the comedy. Um, and this is not a popular take by the way I'm not going to win any friends with this. Idea. Ah okay I think people like ah Bill Cosby less than hitler somehow even though it's entirely possible that the guy was completely set up which is crazy to think about you know, speaking of all that I think it's so funny. 20:08.60 mikebledsoe Um, I'm going to follow it up with a hitler one. So we'll just lose everybody. 20:21.27 mikebledsoe Yeah Trump. 20:27.20 Dr_ Placebo That we we collectively kind of watch the news and we see something or we hear something we're like whoa how did that happen and then we watch a movie and we go whoa. That's amazing. So realistic and we never think that some of those movie people would. Like create some news like if you're directing a movie. You're organizing thousands of people, computer programmers actors extras camera people and it's like you think these ah geniuses of illusion. Never fabricate some sort of reality of. 20:48.91 mikebledsoe No, ah. 21:05.31 Dr_ Placebo Of course they do is. It's very. It's very interesting. How quick we are to throw people under the bus just because ah he said she said kind of thing. 21:13.40 mikebledsoe Yeah, that's absolutely right? Yeah, the the I would say the movie. What's happening in movie theaterore and what's happening in the news is is very much alike I think there's tons of crossover there I mean it what this is. 21:28.87 Dr_ Placebo Of course, there's incentive to do So What do we? What do we know? if there is an incentive and opportunity it happens like there's enough people that if there's incentive and opportunity. It's happening. You don't have to like it. But that's what's happening. 21:36.50 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 21:44.67 mikebledsoe Yeah, there's I'm gonna go into like conspiracy theory land a bit but that but there's there's actual evidence of cia being involved in hollywood in the early stages of of Hollywood coming around. Um. 21:46.43 Dr_ Placebo Are. 21:58.48 Dr_ Placebo If if they weren't They'd be stupid to be the central stupid agency if they weren't using the fucking movies and like I mean are you kidding me like this whole. 22:00.92 mikebledsoe They yeah. 22:08.93 mikebledsoe Ah. 22:12.14 Dr_ Placebo Even the word conspiracy is used as an ad hominem attack when the word conspiracy just means that people meet up in secret everybody people meet up in secret all the fucking time That's like almost all that happens. 22:19.88 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and um, and people have theories about them about these meetings now it and ah even before the cia I mean that's how they drummed up. 22:27.71 Dr_ Placebo No deck. 22:35.18 mikebledsoe Ah, interest or support for the war effort in World War two is they would they would show these they would they would show these hype videos like sizzle reels basically of why you should support the War effort World War Two and. 22:38.52 Dr_ Placebo Oh. 22:51.86 mikebledsoe It worked it hyped everybody up and they use movie theaters for that early on so when you look at what how that was used then and then you look at ah who if you watch the news like so Cbs is probably the worst Cbs Nbc you watching these major news networks. Almost every evening you're going to see them interviewing somebody from the cia or somebody who used to work for the cia or the Fbi or something like that these intelligence agencies have totally got these ah news agencies by the balls. 23:19.54 Dr_ Placebo A. 23:30.74 mikebledsoe Like they they basically get to weave whatever narrative and they desire and people just buy it hook line and sinker and so I bring this up because yeah, the differences between Hollywood and what's happening in the news same thing same people. Ah. 23:34.41 Dr_ Placebo Well. O. 23:47.63 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, no doubt like there's too much incentive and opportunity for that to not be going on I would say it would be foolish to not do that if one of the main goals is to control the domestic population and then. 23:50.16 mikebledsoe Same narratives. 23:56.61 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 24:07.36 Dr_ Placebo Maybe like a secondary goal is ah to defend against foreign invaders because one of them is way more likely to cause a problem actually historically speaking I mean yeah. 24:15.85 mikebledsoe 1 the and the United States that's absolutely true because get waging war on the us is difficult. There's you know two oceans between every yeah, geographically we're positioned really well. There's there's a lot of reasons. 24:25.97 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, there's a lot of reasons lot of reasons. Yeah, you got to watch out for Knida I hear their military has grown to 2000 people I don't know why I'm talking I don't know why I'm talking on Canada. 24:34.42 mikebledsoe Um. 24:38.76 mikebledsoe Sorry Canadian listeners to get fired up. 24:45.18 Dr_ Placebo Like Well what's the point there's it's like ah it's like picking on the small kid that's like hardly fair. Yeah, it's kind of funny I Guess yeah. 24:51.51 mikebledsoe Is got. It's like ah south part in South Bark and the was it Terrence and Philip did you ever watch south part. 25:02.14 Dr_ Placebo I watched ah tons of South Park I actually even caught their ah concert they did to celebrate their ah 25 year ah anniversary um, is on. It's on Youtube they showed the whole thing. It was incredible. 25:08.11 mikebledsoe Did you? Oh I thought you caught it live. 25:16.96 Dr_ Placebo Oh no, no I didn't go live but I did watch it at home. It was fantastic Man it was crazy I mean they got like ah the remaining members from rush to come play. You know they had they had like these serious rock stars like come out of retirement. 25:26.18 mikebledsoe Oh man. 25:34.67 Dr_ Placebo Just so they could play with the guys who made south park and I mean it just shows that what they've created ah goes across all these different genres of art and culture and I think those guys are absolute creative monsters. They played a ton of so it was just those guys are crazy talented crazy motivated. It was a hell of a cool thing to see ah six days to air. Great documentary. Terrific. That's how they stay so current. Meanwhile you know Simpsons. Ah. 25:59.88 mikebledsoe Well they they put the shows together in six days yeah Yeah 26:14.16 Dr_ Placebo Which also ah used to be a great show. Um, they're like six months out basically of what's going on so South Park is always crazy current on what's going on because they ah condense that creative work so much. 26:31.13 mikebledsoe Yeah, my my my favorite south part ever to this date I think I laughed harder on any other one was the ah when they covered the recession 2007 2008 and and when they chopped it. 26:42.57 Dr_ Placebo Oh that was good. So so funny. 26:46.97 mikebledsoe Head off the chicken and let it run around to figure out which who's gonna get bailed out next shit shit sent me over the fucking Moon I was I lost it ugly these people are complete geniuses is this so good. 27:01.42 Dr_ Placebo He's like trying to return a margarita v he's like well what we did is we took your Margaritaville loan and we bundled it together with a bunch of other Margaritaville loans and we traded it on the open market and then we have people betting. On the viability of the payback of those marker. It's like a fucking margarita maker but they're just going through the whole thing. Ah but through the lens of like an overpriced beverage machine is so funny. Those guys are absolute studs anyway, yeah so. 27:26.21 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 27:32.76 Dr_ Placebo Back to conspiracy theories. Ah which are really just ah I Guess it's like ah hypotheses right? It's not like it depends on. 27:42.35 mikebledsoe Right? Well here's the thing is here's the thing is I think we're conspiracy theories people with conspiracy theories get in trouble is when they believe them ah or people who hear conspiracy theory they believe it and it's as if they forget the theory part. And ah, you know there's you know who people are treating like conspiracy facts or conspiracy truth or whatever you want to call it and that's it's it's funny I get sometimes I'll meet somebody who's way into that I'm like like.. What do you believe? I'm like dude I have a hard time believing my own thoughts most of the time let alone some really complicated explanation of how we got this result and somehow you've connected all these dots. 28:27.26 Dr_ Placebo A. 28:34.74 mikebledsoe That are this infinite amount of information and go I know who the bad actorress I'm like oh I don't fucking know but I I do know who to avoid though. 28:41.80 Dr_ Placebo You know what? I think about all this I think that well when when I think about this sort of thing because I I try to use the scientific method which is not ah science tm it's the scientific method. Which is ah see guess test and record right? And if you're really being scientific about things. It really means you're using the scientific method and one of my favorite examples of abandoning the scientific method. Is by people who are atheists. This is a very very funny thing to me because in order to be an atheist the definition of an atheist. Is you believe there is no god certainly but what's funny is that is so far. Equally unproven as the fact is there are 1 or more gods now once again, it depends on your definition of god if you say god is something you believe without proof then there are ah you know certain gods available. Some people could say that money fiat money. Which is faith money is a type of god based on your semantic definition. But what's funny to me is that atheism is a religion of there is definitely no god meaning it is having faith that there is 0 gods. 30:16.86 Dr_ Placebo And religion is a faith based on. There is 1 or more gods. But if you are truly scientific about it. They are both equally invalid because the burden of proof should be on the one who's trying to prove it. So to me atheism is the absolute funniest religion because it's just based on elitism of I'm too smart to believe in 1 or more gods. But I'm also but that's what I'm saying. It's ah it's a cult. 30:41.50 mikebledsoe Well I think a lot of people just that they claim it because they don't want to appear stupid. Yeah. 30:50.28 Dr_ Placebo Of I'm smart. It has no bearing on science whatsoever agnostic is perfectly reasonable but atheism is ah like super unscientific right? So just because no one has proven. There is 1 or more gods doesn't. 31:02.36 mikebledsoe Yeah. 31:09.83 Dr_ Placebo Mean that there is definitely no gods. So it's ah it's like the funniest tribalistic religion that claims to be scientific, but their proof that there is no god is just as scientific as the proof that there is 1 or more which is zilch. If we're talking about the scientific method and that's what's so funny to me. So it's that my favorite example is that atheism is a religion also with no proof and so like like it's it's great. 31:43.30 mikebledsoe Yeah, there's I think there's a ah Terrence Mckenna quote and he he says something. Ah I'm not gonna quote it exactly but basically take a a scientific based sciencebased atheist and. 31:44.77 Dr_ Placebo You. Oh. 32:00.98 mikebledsoe To explain how the world started and it's like look you just give me 1 single miracle and I can explain everything else and it's like oh yeah, so you kind of stuck there. 32:07.90 Dr_ Placebo Right. 32:15.95 Dr_ Placebo Ah, totally even the name is very funny. The big bang that it's like the least scientific ah label I've ever heard. There was a it. It sounds like a a fucking ah ah, primitive tribe. 32:21.47 mikebledsoe Yeah, it's um. 32:33.90 Dr_ Placebo Trying to explain lightning or the sun. First there was a big boom and then there was fire. 32:34.12 mikebledsoe Well. 32:41.51 mikebledsoe Um, as you're you're so spot on so well we got this new telescope out there supposedly I don't know what to believe anymore. Um, probably cgi. Well you you know about the new telescope they put out there that makes the hubble. It's like 20 32:49.88 Dr_ Placebo I Think telescopes are awesome I Well I I I totally telescopes are cool telescopes and microscopes are. 32:58.47 mikebledsoe I Forget how many more times more powerful than the hubble it is but. 33:06.81 Dr_ Placebo Incredibly cool. 33:08.71 mikebledsoe So cool. So um I guess that all these scientists are questioning themselves now they these astrolog astronomers now astrologists astronomers. Um. 33:19.35 Dr_ Placebo K five. 33:25.48 mikebledsoe They're questioning everything because they're looking out there and going oh is the universe contracting and they're doing their job. So but here's. 33:31.70 Dr_ Placebo Wait They're questioning everything. Do you mean? they're doing science. 33:43.50 mikebledsoe I Mean we've already talked about this the scientific community at large is primarily filled with institutional thinking you know and ah yeah, so like I think some of these scientists are having you know existential crises at this moment is what it sounds like. 33:45.82 Dr_ Placebo Um, ah so it's a it's a little religion. It's a little religion. Yeah. 34:01.84 mikebledsoe Because the the new findings put the big bang in question and now they're going. Well we got to find an answer and it's interesting how we as humans. It's like we need to have some type of ah there's this desire to to ah Certainty. It's like if you. If you're an atheist or you're a Christian or you're a muslim or whatever it is. There's a level of certainty that's being clung to and that creates ah safety. So if I can come in the room and I can create certainty in the room then people feel safe and they. Their nervous system calms down and. 34:42.51 Dr_ Placebo That's why people make bomb shelters and and hide away bunkers. It's because there's a natural tendency to expand your sphere of control and um. So that that is a hunger that can never be totally filled because you're always going to find some new thing further as you project into the future. So. The only path is some acceptance right? But if you're a hardcore control freak and you must know and you must have certainty. Then there's no end to the certainty because then you'll be like okay, what about 10 years from now. Okay, what about 15 years from now. Okay, what about 50 years from now. Okay, what about my great-great-grandchildren how do I make sure that they survive to be 1000 years old and. 35:31.58 mikebledsoe Yeah, well, it's interesting. You bring that up the so we think about certainty and we're we're talking about how the universe started people are desiring to have certainty around that so they either choose a religion that has a story about how it started or. 35:32.70 Dr_ Placebo There's no end to it. 35:47.45 Dr_ Placebo Um, how nice that they don't have any real problems. 35:51.22 mikebledsoe Which which I I really like I really like ah yeah I like and I really like a lot of ah religious genesis stories because there's so many metaphors in these genesis stories around language and basically. 36:09.88 Dr_ Placebo Um, in the beginning there was the word and the word was god. 36:09.99 mikebledsoe Ah, the the exactly and so yeah and if you if you it's so easy I remember being a kid and hearing that and I go I don't know what the hell that means and. All right? So then he created Adam and then he created the mountains and the earth and oceans and all the ship in the the birds and the fishes and um, it's really like the way I read that now is it's um, it's a metaphor for consciousness. 36:28.41 Dr_ Placebo Right. 36:42.33 mikebledsoe Consciousness came online for human beings when language came online. Oh I now have a word for this and this word separates me from the from God the natural world and when when read that way. It makes a lot more sense to me. But when some. 36:45.15 Dr_ Placebo Oh. 36:57.72 Dr_ Placebo To me God is the genesis of an idea like that's why they say ah you know the word is God and God is the word is that that's the genesis of an idea. So ah, interestingly enough by that logic God is in fact, real. It's just been made by man just like logic is real and it's also a God Basically an idea that's been invented by man. Yeah. 37:24.78 mikebledsoe Well the well the idea the idea that um was it men don't have ideas ideas have men. Ah who that that's ah man was that voltaire not quite. 37:30.73 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, yeah. 37:37.64 Dr_ Placebo I think that was ah max shank who said that actually I'm just going to misattributing all these baller quotes from like many centuries ago and they'll be like wasn't that Plato I was like no that was me. 37:41.55 mikebledsoe Um, so ah, the a did I I. 37:55.31 Dr_ Placebo Because no one will no one will follow up very few people. 37:59.22 mikebledsoe I love posting really like I'll come across a quote and I'll put it on Twitter and then one out of 10 times I was like you know that's normally attributed to Martin Luther King Junior however it was really said by so I'm like get the fuck out of here focus focus on the quote. Don't worry about where it came from. 38:12.43 Dr_ Placebo Yeah I used to be like that too I used to be totally. Ah well my favorite quote is what's more important the quote or the quoter and that's ah my quote which is fucking hilarious I think because does it really matter who said it and what's funny. Is it. 38:24.97 mikebledsoe Ah, oh. 38:30.16 Dr_ Placebo Does it does a lot of the time sometimes there's a great quote from like an unknown monk in ah, 1500 Bc or something like that or 500 a d or whatever and people are like oh that's really cool but that would be the easiest quote to poach. 38:49.00 mikebledsoe Right? Like you know or you know the and Chinese proverb unknown um know yeah and you know that who you're quoting a context matters. So you know if it's a quote. Yeah, but. 38:52.78 Dr_ Placebo Right? right. 39:01.32 Dr_ Placebo The appeal to Authority That's God Also so God is the genesis of an idea. It's a word. It's a new idea and it's also um, that appeal to an authority. It's ah like a focal point. 39:11.28 mikebledsoe Well are are you coming? Are you coming at this from the perspective that that people create thoughts or ideas. 39:23.61 Dr_ Placebo Um, that's a good question I I believe that ah the thoughts that people have are a combination or permutation of what they have experienced. So. If you put a human being in a vacuum and just gave it food. It wouldn't learn. Ah how to speak it wouldn't learn language so it's just some sort of um. Synthesis or combination or permutation of everything that you are aware of and that's why the idea of having like the genesis of language at all is very interesting and there's a specificity of language. That occurs in many different animals like dolphins and orca have different languages or at least Orca have different languages based on the pod or the family that they're a part of ah green monkeys can lie and say look out. There's a hawk or and we don't know if it. It means hawk or if it just means danger from above but they have distinct calls for danger from above or danger from low below and what they'll do is they will lie. So like if you have a banana I'll say look out a hawk in green monkey language and you'll look out for the hawk and then I'll snatch your. 40:38.97 mikebledsoe A. 40:51.33 Dr_ Placebo Ah, your your banana right? So like it's literally the oldest trick in the book which is look over there while I Rob you so so language ah is I I think um the genesis of some ideas. But. 40:57.26 mikebledsoe Yeah, so. 41:08.71 Dr_ Placebo You know a polar bear may not have language but it can still plan a spider doesn't have language but it can still plan out an attack where it will like walk around and jump around until they're above their prey and then dangle themselves down mission Impossible style. So. 41:23.92 mikebledsoe Well well the question I got to ask next is so are are you I find there's 2 camps. There's one camp which is the most popular camp which is. The the materialistic view which is ah consciousness is a byproduct of biology like the biology exists not is what makes consciousness possible or is our. 41:51.49 Dr_ Placebo Um. 41:56.59 Dr_ Placebo And. 41:57.93 mikebledsoe Is physical matter a ah ah manifestation of consciousness. 42:05.38 Dr_ Placebo Um, you know that's a I knew that's the question you were going to ask actually? um, ah fortunately I have the exact correct answer which is ah how could I know? Ah, it's like ah I. 42:15.78 mikebledsoe Ooh. 42:21.20 Dr_ Placebo I can think so does that mean I am so is it I think therefore I am or I am therefore I think basically so our sensory ah Organs influence the way we interpret the world. 42:28.17 mikebledsoe Right. 42:40.26 Dr_ Placebo as well as um the the influence of our surroundings like in Africa there's way more words for green because the distinction between different plants is a little more important different words for snow in the inuit tribes. Because that distinction is way more important for survival. Um, whether you are ah, an animal having ah an experience of consciousness or whether you are a consciousness who has called yourself an animal is sort of like a chicken or the egg type of situation. My. My personal perspective is that the I that I refer to as I is um, basically a fabrication of our culture so without these ideas of. Names and things like that you would just be an animal and all animals have some level of consciousness ah mushrooms have some level of consciousness. It's it's a different level of consciousness than a human being. But the fact that they can you know send information miles across a web of mycelium as soon as they figure out how to digest a certain type of material like the biggest living organism is actually a mycelium I think it's an Oregon. 44:11.64 Dr_ Placebo And it's several square miles in size which is pretty cool and what'll happen is they'll encounter a material that they can't digest figure out a way to digest it and that information that signal will get sent all the way across the mycelium. 44:14.54 mikebledsoe Yeah. 44:29.63 Dr_ Placebo To the other side and then they'll start being able to digest that material whether that's like some sort of rocky mineral or ah or what have you? Ah so different animals and fungi have different levels of consciousness but ah just like the. Story of of God or no God or these gods or those gods. That's that's our invention. 44:57.47 mikebledsoe Yeah, the um, the perspective I I tend to hold is consciousness creates. There's when I when I went through the hermetic principles. The first principle is that everything is of mind and ah. The idea is that ah everything everything occurs in the mind first and when I when I'm holding that perspective I I find that to be the most useful I don't know which one is true and. 45:31.88 Dr_ Placebo And. 45:34.10 mikebledsoe Like you had said, there's no way to know. Um, you know I I think some people have had some experiences that would have them really believe one way or another for me personally I find it to be more useful to ah to be of the. Belief that consciousness is creating everything it to me. It makes everything a little more malleable and if I believe that anything could be changed through thought. Ah then. 46:10.40 mikebledsoe Then that that seems much more powerful to me and. 46:14.32 Dr_ Placebo There's a great book by Richard Bachman called illusions that I really like it kind of talks about that. How you you know like ah the only reason you can't swim through the earth and stand on the water is because of your belief in the illusion. 46:18.25 mikebledsoe I've read that? yeah. 46:30.80 mikebledsoe Well here's the thing is okay so I the way I see is you don't have a separate mind that I have there's one mind we all share it. You just have different you just you just? yes, you just. 46:30.87 Dr_ Placebo That it can only work a certain way. 46:42.87 Dr_ Placebo For humans humans only so one species has one hive mind. Basically yeah. 46:52.15 mikebledsoe Yeah, we have a certain filter. Um, you know what? I'm gonna have to sit with that one I'm gonna go back and sit with that that question ah because they animals just may have the filter. So the way I see is we share the same mind Consciousness is expanding. 46:59.74 Dr_ Placebo And. 47:09.81 mikebledsoe Um, the universe is doing its thing and um may Ornet may not be expanding I'm sure it goes through expansions and contractions just like everything else. Another hermetic print principle being as above so below and. 47:21.46 Dr_ Placebo How could we measure. 47:27.20 mikebledsoe We can measure it to a point. But yeah, once you get out there. It's not going to happen. Ah so ah, we all have like this super mind and this is why a lot of the same ideas occur to people around the planet simultaneously or they've done studies with rats where. They're teaching them something in a lab in France and then a lab in Alaska they see those rats be able to solve whatever puzzle that was taught to the rats in France and so you know there they never so met they stayed in those locations. There was no. 47:53.45 Dr_ Placebo M. 48:03.33 mikebledsoe No communication between the two that we we would know about and yet they still do that So there. There are some I don't of I would call it ah evidence for it. But there's definitely correlative evidence for that argument and so I really like to think about it as like. These aren't even my thoughts I'm not these are thoughts that are flowing through me and my filter is allowing me to have you know certain thoughts where I'm allowing those thoughts to come and go and so I become a lot less attached to like this is even mine I get a conversation with someone we're having where brainstorming. It's like. This isn't really my thought it's not your thought it's you know it's this is just a thing that's happening right Now. So I like the thing about it like that and I find that to be ah the most useful there's another point I was going? yeah. 48:49.32 Dr_ Placebo Ah. 48:57.34 Dr_ Placebo It makes you sound pretty cool Either way I but I think so ah yeah, it's like ah I I don't think you're using it that way. But it's funny because it's kind of like. 49:01.28 mikebledsoe Does it perfect. That's what I was going for I mean that's the real use utility here. 49:14.95 Dr_ Placebo Kind of like the coolness factor is apathy. So the super enlightened factor is it's not about me man. It's just about you know the collective. Whatever's going I'm just a conduit I'm just a channel for what's happening now there there is no me man and you're like fuck that guy sounds really cool. 49:25.33 mikebledsoe Yeah. 49:33.24 Dr_ Placebo And then what ends up happening is the guy's like fuck. Maybe I am really cool and then it it comes like crashing down and I've experienced that personally a few times myself where I'm like oh man I'm really just like you know I'm I am I'm in it. It's not. There's no me I'm just like. 49:40.90 mikebledsoe Um, be. 49:52.95 Dr_ Placebo It's all happening right now and I'm a big part of it and then I go fuck I think I must be pretty enlightened and then just fucking back to the basement like shoots and ladders all the way back to level 1 49:58.48 mikebledsoe Yeah, the the prop the problem is when you get credit for it. That's that's when it happens someone else gives you credit you give yourself credit and then yeah, then it all just falls at pieces. 50:06.65 Dr_ Placebo Well, that's what. 50:14.14 Dr_ Placebo Well and that's also like the the bane of the guru like I was talking um talking with my buddy Brian this morning. Um I know I was well I was talking to him. But yesterday I was talking to ah another gal who works with me Victoria and she got me this lovely book. Ah, that I haven't read yet. Just got it for me wrote a really nice note in it. Ah and I was like oh man, that's so nice and it's by brene brown and brene brown is one of those people who if you're a lady you have to think she's awesome and. I think she is I think she's got a ton of really good ideas. But I think um as you embody the guru more and more you have to create more stuff so you have to muddy the waters a little bit otherwise you sound like what people call a broken record. So what I notice. Is that someone will have a few fantastic idea and I don't know I haven't read the book. It could be like life changing best book I've ever read. But if a pert. 51:18.31 mikebledsoe Rene Brown is good but to me falls into a similar categories Tony Robbins there's some good stuff in there. But if you dig further beyond the self-love conversation. She gets look. She's an expert in 1 thing and. And think she got lost in some other stuff. 51:35.24 Dr_ Placebo So selling herself right? And that's what I'm talking about with guruism like you have people with good ideas like Jocko. Ah good ideas. But there's a hunger for more and people are like guru. Ah please tell tell me what. Tell me the truth illuminate the way and if the guru says I already did it fits on an index card like I'm done like go do the thing I said people are like I think I'll find a new guru and they're like wait a second I just thought of something in fact, in. 51:57.77 mikebledsoe Yeah. 52:08.50 mikebledsoe I got bills to pay. Ah. 52:11.00 Dr_ Placebo In fact, it's even it's even better than what I taught you before. In fact, this secret I Just I just unveiled and you know so like the that's what I mean with like the bane of the guru is now you have embodied the guru. And I felt that happen to myself which is why I just fucking vanished off the face of the internet for several years and people are like what what totally totally man. 52:34.54 mikebledsoe As you're as you're talking about this. Um I relate completely because I I kind of I fell off as well. Yeah, it was like it's like oh I got to keep making shit up. Ah life is actually pretty good. It's pretty simple, pretty straightforward. 52:45.86 Dr_ Placebo I Wrote 200 plus articles about exercise I Taught 200 seminars all over the world I wrote all these books and video courses and they're excellent by the way like my latest couple primal athleticism and elasticity available on maxshank.com Are so good. They're They're really good. But also if you are having to keep pace with some sort of artificially imposed ah like guruism you're going to muddy the waters a little too much and that's. Um I don't know other than repeating yourself a lot if there is a way to avoid that because there's definitely a hunger and a thirst for knowledge and if you have embodied the characteristics or the character. The avatar of the guru. There's There's definitely a pressure to to make more of this this thing than there actually needs to be. 53:43.48 mikebledsoe But me. 53:50.60 mikebledsoe Yeah, well um, think of my friend Jesse Elder who's amazing. Love that guy and so inspired by his creativity and he tends to attract hit huh. 54:07.11 Dr_ Placebo Here comes here. It comes. Ah. 54:07.94 mikebledsoe But he had. He's very good at attracting a crowd and he's got that guru vibe goinglling on and the thing that impresses me with him is when I met him in 2014 he was just getting started on the like speaking gig thing. 54:12.97 Dr_ Placebo So ah. 54:23.49 Dr_ Placebo Um. 54:24.94 mikebledsoe And what he was talking about then and what he's talking about now is very much the same but he's so good at creating new context and and weaving together stories to bring people in so like it's it's he he really has gotten it to some core truths and he's really good at. 54:38.74 Dr_ Placebo Whoa. 54:44.85 mikebledsoe Ah, communicating it. But what I'm most impressed with is is a ability to communicate those in a way that people can receive has continuously improved over the years and I love seeing you know I'll see him speak and then three months later seem to speak again and he's cleaned it up or he's tightened it up or he's. 55:02.41 Dr_ Placebo Yeah. 55:04.37 mikebledsoe Ah, or he's using a new analogy to get the point across like guy. He's like oh now he's nailing it now. He's nailing it. It's almost like watching you know a comic you know, develop a routine over a year yeah it's like the first show you're like yeah, it's a little clunky and then by the time they're on Netflix special. it's it's tight 55:09.85 Dr_ Placebo Who hone their routine. It's magic. 55:24.50 mikebledsoe So I think that there's I think there's ah that impresses me and I really like that. So there's that's somebody who does have he doesn't I don't think he tries to be a guru but he definitely has you know people people follow him like. 55:27.13 Dr_ Placebo Whoa. 55:34.36 Dr_ Placebo Oh. 55:43.60 mikebledsoe Cult Leader style. 55:43.21 Dr_ Placebo And that's what will happen if you get better and better at transmitting ideas right? is you will You will attract a crowd and so it's like can you maintain that integrity without the crowd. 55:48.34 mikebledsoe Yeah. 55:59.52 Dr_ Placebo Transforming you into something different like I saw this great video the other day by this Youtube channel after school and it showed this ah transformation of this kid who was like a violin prodigy and then he turned into this guy who just. Eats tons of food like he challenges himself. So the guy gained like hundreds of pounds of fat. He oh dude. So it's like 1 of the most recent after school videos Skool and it goes through this like no one cared that he was ah. 56:22.31 mikebledsoe What. 56:36.21 Dr_ Placebo A Violin prodigy but he like ate a big meal once and people were like yeah we like that and so he he was transformed by by the audience because they were craving something else and he's like okay I'll I'll just be that right. 56:51.38 mikebledsoe Or he's craving validation are you? Oh you're gonna validate me. Yeah, we want to be loved. 56:56.51 Dr_ Placebo Aren't we all We want to be Loved. We want. What do we want? um attention power Love mostly we want Love if we can't get Love. We'll settle for power if we can't get Power. We'll settle for attention and if you ah aren't getting the attention you want. And then you do something and suddenly you are oh look out that's temptation big time like I used to get ah like high fives and praise and people would even applaud if I could drink the most poison in college like if I could drink a ah. An alcoholic beverage Really fast. So before I knew what was going on I'm taking like 4 lokos and shotgunning them before ten a M because everyone's like Wow What a what a tough cool guy you are and I I Really liked that positive feedback. So yeah, it's.. It's easy to see why people go down certain paths because these ah these base desires for love power attention ah are almost impossible to avoid. 58:10.55 mikebledsoe Well that that makes me think about my my fitness career and I remember I was I was fifteen years I was like well I had like um. 58:15.49 Dr_ Placebo Me too I talk about that all the time. 58:24.23 mikebledsoe I didn't feel like I was getting love. So yeah, maybe it was attention but the what ended up happening is I remember I couldn't I couldn't wait till my fifteenth birthday because on my fifteenth birthday I was allowed to go to the gym and lift weights because my parents didn't want me to stunt my growth and which we know is all bullshit now. But. 58:39.13 Dr_ Placebo But depends on depends on the level I think if you do gymnastics from age 5 You're probably going to grow less. 58:43.77 mikebledsoe Like a lot mom. 58:50.42 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, so ah, as soon as I turned 15 I started working out all the time. My dad worked construction. He saw that I was basically burning a lot of energy unnecessarily you know wasn't. 58:54.93 Dr_ Placebo O who. What right? right? o. 59:06.26 mikebledsoe And wasn't making any money. Ah, he's used to like yeah pick up heavy shit and walk around and you know we make money when we do it. We're we're being of service and and my perception of how he viewed what I was doing was ah that it was just a ah superficial. Ah, frivolous pursuit and he was like he's like you're never going to make any money. Ah, you're never going to make any money working out and I remember thinking I was like I'll fucking show. You. 59:27.30 Dr_ Placebo Frivolous. 59:36.94 Dr_ Placebo Um, I'll show you dad I'll show you? um oh my God are those like the famous last words I'll show them I'll show all of them. 59:45.80 mikebledsoe Um, and that's what you want to make yourself miserable live like that. So and there were what will ended up happening is I ended up proving him wrong. Um. 59:54.71 Dr_ Placebo Ah, bro. 59:58.53 Dr_ Placebo And. 01:00:01.65 mikebledsoe And but it's not like I only got paid to work out sometimes I was getting paid to work out but I was getting paid for a bunch of other shit too And um, no, that's not true when I was in the Navy I got paid to work out. 01:00:06.44 Dr_ Placebo Yeah, dude, you never got paid to work out though you got paid to like run a company built around people working out you. 01:00:22.13 Dr_ Placebo That's ah like you got paid extra. You didn't get paid to work out motherfucker you got paid to be in the Navy bitch. Basically what I'm saying is your dad was right. 01:00:23.50 mikebledsoe No, no, no I mean it was it was. 01:00:32.97 mikebledsoe Ah, well I'll tell you there there is that I was I was. 01:00:38.20 Dr_ Placebo Your dad was right? That's all I'm saying. 01:00:41.75 mikebledsoe I do remember I was I was nineteen years old I was in I was in coronado I'm running on the beach with a group of guys and all we're doing is you know, swimming running and managing being cold as fuck and that was it and I was like I was like. 01:00:48.10 Dr_ Placebo Oh. 01:01:01.79 mikebledsoe Fucking Did it I'm getting paid to work out and you know it was very short lived Um, because. 01:01:02.41 Dr_ Placebo And also not true. You were basically paid to be a weapon and your exercising was like greasing the barrel and the parts basically like. 01:01:14.92 mikebledsoe Um, you are 100% accurate about that. Yeah I was ah you know, ah, it's so funny like people are like wow thank you know you're a veteran. Oh thank you I'm like um I'm like I'm like as I got duped you know like I got. 01:01:25.35 Dr_ Placebo Thank you for your service. 01:01:35.14 mikebledsoe Like you're like congratulating me for being a ah for getting duped I appreciate it. Yeah I went and basically worked for the the biggest gangsters on the planet. So cool you know? ah I was muscle for the biggest gangsters on the planet for. 01:01:47.53 Dr_ Placebo Um, hey if you're gonna be in a gang be in the toughest one. It's still like. Ah. 01:01:51.85 mikebledsoe Ah, through a period of time being the biggest baddest toughest one and I was so so eat it. 01:01:59.91 Dr_ Placebo It's still the great. It's It's still the great pirates. It's the same shit is still ah the great pirates who has the fastest boats who has the best range. It's ah hilarious. How true that is. 01:02:02.28 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 01:02:08.18 mikebledsoe Totally yeah so it's funny because a number of years ago. Not that long ago I remember I had that memory I go I go oh my god this is about five years ago I was like oh my god is my entire. Fucking career built around that moment where I was going to prove my dad wrong. do I do I really like working out. Ah do I like talking about fitness do I really like these things and the reality is is yeah I do love health and fitness and I i. Find time in the gym almost every day and I enjoy myself in there. It's one way I show myself love and it doesn't play nearly the role it used to There's so many other interests that get play time and then in addition to that i. I'm showing myself love by taking care of my body but I'm not working out for any type of validation from other people anymore. So it's it's caused me to be in a much better spot and dude I probably make less money because I I seek less validation. 01:03:08.31 Dr_ Placebo Yeah I get it. 01:03:21.22 mikebledsoe Ah, if I if I was one of those people I I listen like no like no the Alex warmosi was talking about this in a video. He's basically saying like insecurity is what you need to be a you know 100 millionaire I'm like you might be right because i. 01:03:22.39 Dr_ Placebo You don't have the same motivation to like you don't care like so value. 01:03:38.94 mikebledsoe Have very few insecurities these days and the necessity that. 01:03:42.22 Dr_ Placebo If you don't feel secure if you don't feel secure with $50000000 then a hundred isn't going to make you feel secure. You know what I'm saying like that that's sort of like what I'm talking about is like who's to say that what's right for you is right for me. It's like why? ah like Gary Vaynerchuk 01:03:51.67 mikebledsoe Um, a. 01:03:59.16 mikebledsoe Yeah. 01:04:00.33 Dr_ Placebo Gary Vee that fucking guy that guy to me is out of his god damn mind and he might have a few good ideas like let's not discount it. But. 01:04:08.94 mikebledsoe Ah I'll say he's made improvements over the years his message five years ago versus today has as improved and from what I can see. 01:04:16.60 Dr_ Placebo And that's cool, but like what we said is you know when we see other people we see through a window so we don't see the big. We don't see the whole thing that's going on and there is nothing to cloud our evaluation of it. When we look at ourselves we look into a mirror so we see basically the whole thing and we have our ego in the way. So that's why I say it's harder to look into a a mirror than it is to look through a window but of course that's because you don't see the big picture. You're more objective rather than subjective about the whole thing. But with um, you know these guys who assume this avatar you know they they embody this persona and you're almost caught in a loop where you're it's sort of a sunk cost fallacy you know Gary Vee I got to own the jets. Someday and look for him that might be exactly the right thing. So I don't want to say that that's a bad goal because it's his goal but it's not my goal like I would not trade ah playing tennis and hanging out with my dogs more often. Ah. To sacrifice maybe owning a sports team because to me that's like no extra value. You know what I'm saying so that idea of insecurity will lead you to a hundred million I mean maybe maybe not but like. 01:05:48.19 Dr_ Placebo Why do you want that in the first place is it because you really believe in what you're doing is it because you feel like 10000000 just won't be good enough or 20 or or whatever I mean it's ah it's really a funny thing like how we fall into these patterns. 01:06:00.19 mikebledsoe I I invested in a sports team once to look cool. Yeah yeah, and then the entire league went belly up like two months after I invested and I lost all my money. 01:06:06.17 Dr_ Placebo Really nice. 01:06:16.55 mikebledsoe That I what I felt cool for about three days and I I got like I got like 15 now I would say the highlight this is the highlight. 01:06:16.61 Dr_ Placebo did you feel cool for two months though did you feel cool for two months though did you get any swag like like ah a hat. 01:06:35.50 mikebledsoe Is what $60000 got me by the way is got me about 10 or 15 tickets at Madison square gardens in New York City ah some like front row shit and I got to like. 01:06:42.97 Dr_ Placebo So. 01:06:48.19 mikebledsoe All my all my northeast friends I called him up I was like meet me at Massison You know we're gonna meet at the bar Beforehand have some drinks go watch the teams compete. So like I had ownership in it. It was the grid league. It was that Crossfit Rip off. 01:06:56.30 Dr_ Placebo Ah, what? what? sport. 01:07:05.34 Dr_ Placebo Nice. 01:07:06.80 mikebledsoe And which I think that sport still exists I actually prefer it over c

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00:00.00 Max Shank All right? Welcome back to Monday morning with max and Mike we're talking about launch pads. We're talking about ramps. We're talking about Trebuches. We're talking about flinging things a mighty distance this applies to both physics and also business That's what I'm excited about. I don't want to go out there and go fishing. You know one pole at a time I want to be able to deliver a tremendous payload at a great distance. You know what I mean and have it create a very massive effect. But in order to do that. You got to spend a lot more time with the building of it. It's like fishing pole pretty easy to build water wheel significantly harder to build but greater impact lot more work ahead of time and then you take it all the way to something like a rocket which can or a power plant. Can deliver a tremendous amount of power but it requires a huge amount of upfront work and because I've done a lot of biz coaching with people I feel like that that is the number None thing that. Separates people who create an exponential growth in their business is the ones who are willing to do the setup time to make something that is a more sophisticated leverage and force multiplier. You know what? I'm saying. 01:27.51 mikebledsoe Yeah I Think the None thing you got to consider in that case is does what you want to build actually solve a problem and um I think a lot of people you know think I think a lot of people start businesses based on something they Like. Or something you know around what it is that they want to do which works sometimes because they figured out. They've solved some problem for themselves and they they can help other people through a product or service. Um, but I'm a big fan of of seeing if it's the right Poll. Before I go launch a hundred of them like I don't want to put the wrong bait on my hook I could be I could be catching the wrong fish or I could be catching no fish at All. So I would use one pole make. 02:16.13 Max Shank I like I like the fishing analogy. The fishing analogy is good because people are about as smart as fish. 02:24.18 mikebledsoe Ah, it's true. Ah so no, but like it's good to put figure out if if it you know test with one poll or maybe test with 20 polls all with different bait. What um, keeps popping off is now we're pulling the hooks out and we're replacing all them with that one Bait I think that. That's like the I've been thinking about the business as ah, especially like a coaching business as a triangle at the bottom you have you have your offer and then one of the sides is marketing and the other sides is the fulfillment. The coaching aspect. Find that most people and the way this would work is like what are you selling? How do you market it and then how do you fulfill on it whether it's a coaching business or not and. 03:12.98 Max Shank Ah, right? How do you? How do you educate them about it and how do you get it to them. So like the bottom is what is it and then one side is how do you tell the right people about how do they know about it and then how do you get it to them I like it. 03:19.16 mikebledsoe Right. 03:25.32 mikebledsoe Exactly exactly so but I find them I know you do triangles are the best sturdy pointed can penetrate well and super hard to tip over. 03:31.46 Max Shank Also I like triangles. 03:36.87 Max Shank So I mean they're not hexagons. But they're really cool. 03:44.95 mikebledsoe Ah, so well depends on what kind of time go with oh let's hear it. 03:46.11 Max Shank You know my favorite ah Buckminster Fuller joke he's ah he goes ah is well. It's more of a statement I guess he goes. Ah why do architects build square houses. So engineers can put triangles in them. 04:08.49 mikebledsoe I I like it I like it. Yeah yeah, tons of triangles. Yeah, None of triangles. Yeah yeah, without that your shit's going to get fucked up. So um. 04:10.73 Max Shank And if you you've done a bunch of house framing and stuff like that too before right? So you have these rectangle boxes that are just full of triangles. You better have those fuckers in there. 04:28.22 mikebledsoe Well, it just won't even look right. 04:31.44 Max Shank No oh it's going to go over without some triangles in there. Yeah. 04:32.86 mikebledsoe Just kind of push it over Ah yeah, so I like thinking about this because I more often than not when I bump into an entrepreneur either a new entrepreneur or an entrepreneur suffering None times out of None It's the the bottom. Part of the pyramid. It's the offer. It's the it's the what they're selling. Um, yeah, yeah sand at the beach. Yeah, and so so somebody you know it's like somebody has these air things people think that it's a marketing problem. 04:55.12 Max Shank Sand at the beach like why would you want to do that to yourself. Ah yeah. 05:10.66 mikebledsoe And I'm like it's not a marketing like does anyone want what you're selling in the None place when it's not a marketing problem like your offers should be the thing you're offering should be an obvious solution if it's not obvious solution then there's more work to be done there. Um, some people in business would say that the development of the offer is a function of the marketing department. Which I don't necessarily disagree disagree with but so is the fulfillment. They kind of all bleed into each other. Yeah, So so if you so if you nail down a solid offer and then you just. 05:33.74 Max Shank I Think marketing marketing is part of the offer for sure. Yeah. 05:49.30 mikebledsoe Funnel as many people towards that that one offer not now you got a winning formula. 05:53.48 Max Shank Well, and even even better. Is you you set up your shop within a current flow of consciousness directed at that specific thing and I mean Youtube has been a game changer in this because. There's just such a bigger library of things that are searchable if you have questions that need solving and if you if you meet people where they're at and you match their pace. They don't notice that you're a fisherman. Basically you just kind of enter the conversation that they're already having. 06:16.72 mikebledsoe Yeah. 06:31.96 Max Shank And the the finesse of that offer is really.. It's the same as seduction for the most part. That's why so many of these great copywriters were like pickup artist stuff before then because it's all about getting someone from I don't know. To yes, right? And so however, you craft that that story that is entering that person's mind is going to guide their next decisions. 07:02.20 mikebledsoe Yeah, what are we talking about toy forgot about our topic since you made it you may you you made it up. Ah oh yeah, oh. 07:09.95 Max Shank Triangles we were talking about lot. No no, we were talking talking about launch pads launch pads rocket ships trebute none fishing from fishing poles to ah nuclear power plants. Ah we're we're just trying to eat and fuck right. That's really what it comes down to we want to make sure that we're safe. We want to get enough calories. We want to continue our genes we we insist that the genes get carried forward every animal and plant is like None sure about that part of the equation like definitely more of us and we just that's life baby more of us. Ah so it's all about energy. It's all about conserving calories. It's always it's also about um, expanding the mass. 07:49.71 mikebledsoe That's life. Yeah I. 08:05.26 Max Shank Of the tribe which is also like a stored energy kind of calorie thing. It's like ah it's like the size of the tribe is your energy bank and actually in dune they talk about how the tribe shares the water ah like everybody shares all the water and then if 1 guy dies they suck the water out and like it's all about. 08:07.27 mikebledsoe Yeah, um. Yeah, about if. 08:23.63 mikebledsoe Well, it's ah yeah I mean unless you have a tribe where half of the tribe ah is useless Now that's a drain on the energy. 08:24.97 Max Shank Just ah pooling those re pooling those resources. 08:36.65 Max Shank True but that has happened for a long time I mean we we ah well and it's and it's ah it's uncertain of what the utility is in some of those cases like ah, there's that grandmother idea where there's the wisdom that. 08:40.64 mikebledsoe I Know that's why I bring it up. 08:56.24 Max Shank Passed on like why would I'm not saying this to be crude, but like why would a lady stay alive and go through Menopause like why would they stop being able to bear children and maybe it's ah like physical. Ah. Power but I think ah that is only exhibited and I think like Orcas and elephants. There aren't that many creatures that go through Menopa and maybe chimps. Also I can't quite remember exactly but it's this idea that there's a ah huge value to. 09:25.88 mikebledsoe Um. 09:33.55 Max Shank Them teaching the next generation how to do stuff and with orca they have different hunting techniques based on where they live they have different languages between these different pods. So there's a utility that's not strictly. Ah, hunting gathering or procreating. But I know what you're talking about too. It's like the bigger the percentage of freeloaders are the heavier. The wagon gets and it's still and a simple energy equation right? If you have one ah hundred kilograms in the wagon and you have None guy pulling. It's. Totally fine. But if you suddenly have ten Thousand Kilograms unless it's very ah, good piece of machinery that None guy won't be able to move it. 10:15.94 mikebledsoe Yeah, it feels like that's where we're at now. So a bunch of people are just jumping in the wagon and not pulling it. But I'm not yeah and um, while'm not blaming them I get it I get it. Well here's the thing. Ah if you lack if you lack. 10:25.46 Max Shank Um, hard to blame hard to blame. Yeah yeah, who would very few wouldn't do that. 10:35.90 mikebledsoe If you lack the skills to demand a certain amount of money I mean this is what happens we're in inflation right now and but like. 10:42.82 Max Shank Oh God here we go again. It's all it's all just about show me a better offer. That's what it's about because if so to be a freeloader to be a freeloader. It's got to be a better offer than the other thing that you are thinking about doing. 10:48.50 mikebledsoe It. It's It's exactly right. 10:55.85 mikebledsoe Exactly always goes back to incentives with you as well. But the thing is what we have is ah the cost of living is outpacing salaries. So it's not like people's salaries are inflating at the same rate that that's historically. 11:00.75 Max Shank Totally. 11:14.28 mikebledsoe Been untrue. So like what is true is that the salary state. You know you'll get a 1% raise and you get your dopamine hit and you stick with it but inflation is 10% and so your lifestyle keeps decreasing the people at the top get more money and then so I think a lot of people are just like. 11:15.00 Max Shank Right? ah. 11:29.48 Max Shank Right? Well if. 11:34.22 mikebledsoe Why I can't pay my bills at Fifteen Twenty dollars an hour I can't pay my bills so why work you know it's so I get it. 11:38.50 Max Shank Right? right? Don't totally I there's like ah a Bob Newhart joke from like a really long time ago where he talks about working at the ah unemployment office and. He it didn't take him too long before he realized that he was handing out these $60 checks and he was only getting fifty bucks a week and he had to he had to be there all week I mean this has been going on for a long time and the thing that has increased people's quality of life has been technology and maybe quality of life is actually a stretch because I think that you can perhaps live a much higher quality of life with some lower tech. 12:26.57 mikebledsoe Well ah, technology technology allows us to leverage its leverage to increase power. So if you put the if you put power in somebody's hand who's going to make choices that don't take them towards a higher quality of life. They're actually going to go to a lower quality life. 12:29.52 Max Shank Even though you know there are people you know what I mean exactly more leverage. 12:45.88 mikebledsoe Much faster and because there's dopamine that's associated with the tool the technology the dopamine will create the illusion that their lifestyle is improving because now they got a fancier phone or whatever the fuck or more people like their their photo today. 13:01.21 Max Shank Um, well they're using that tool but they're just using it at a very like low level way. 13:05.46 mikebledsoe Ah, and so so like they think they think that having the tool They think that having the tool is the increase in quality of life when it's the thing that can increase the quality of life exactly. 13:20.52 Max Shank It's not the tool. It's what you do with it. That's what like all like every every girl I've ever met has always said that to me, it's not about the tool itself. It's what you do with it. But. 13:26.56 mikebledsoe Um, and making you feel better. How the yeah so that's it's not the size of your tool max. 13:33.14 Max Shank Ah, yeah I don't know I don't know why I Assume it's ah like this with everybody. That's what I've been told I've been told that so much so much I Wonder if it is though if they're just saying that like. I Just meet all of the most considerate ladies ever. Is there a common denominator here that I haven't considered who so so we're talking we're we're we're talking. 13:54.66 mikebledsoe Ah, oh he's going into reflection folks. Ah, we'll see him back in a week absolutely 14:05.93 Max Shank We're talking money though. Also right and the size of your wallet is way more important than the size of your genitals fellows for the record fat guys with tiny cocks fat old guys with tiny cocks are out there right now with the most beautiful women in the world If that's your if that's your thing. 14:11.11 mikebledsoe When it when it comes to getting getting and having ladies. 14:23.98 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 14:25.19 Max Shank You know Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But the truth is how you do professionally and how you ah carry yourself is going to be way more important and that kind of leads us back to the launch pads. It's this. It's the same kind of thing. Can you defer the gratification. 14:33.11 mikebledsoe Yeah, you know I um. 14:43.72 Max Shank To build what is necessary so that it has its its own momentum without you pushing it all the time and I think that's what what everybody wants or at least everybody I think maybe should want is something that. 15:00.25 mikebledsoe Yeah, there's um, man see if I can find it real quick. Nope Um I was thinking about the ah the myth of it takes money to make money. There's like that that famous phrase. 15:00.60 Max Shank Can sustain itself. 15:16.61 mikebledsoe It's a meme that floats around in in our culture and it's It's not true. It's ah you need resources to make money and money is also a byproduct of using those resources well and ah you are your primary resources. 15:16.79 Max Shank Um, yeah. 15:36.53 mikebledsoe Um, are basically your ability to observe critically think and problem solve and most people I bring that up because I don't want people to get stuck in the way of thinking that oh I need to have money before I can make money because I think a lot of people. Or or in that mentality by that's exactly right? It's exactly right? So I think that there are certain common phrases out there that are almost intended to keep people from being successful and that's one of them. 15:56.89 Max Shank I Need to lose some weight before I join the gym. 16:09.15 Max Shank Oh almost or certainly I mean there's mind control everywhere um depends how deep you want to go down that rabbit hole. But even just ah like let's say regular Tv especially as a dude. 16:12.46 mikebledsoe Most certainly? yeah yeah. 16:27.99 Max Shank It's like how many Tv shows have you seen in your life where the father was a powerful figure with a good set of values and a good. It's ah it's never that it's like some whiny bitch. It's like some whiny bitch like. 16:39.83 mikebledsoe Not since the early sixty s. 16:47.15 Max Shank Who's always like oh can we have sex wife and the wife never wants to and the guy always does and in reality and in reality in reality. It's like as soon as you get to that age. It's the exact fucking opposite. Are you kidding me like None 50 year old ah in a couple. 16:50.10 mikebledsoe That is interesting I never thought about that. 17:06.69 Max Shank It's not going to be the guy who's like scrounging for it all the time he's done. It's just it's just a funny ah example where it's not just the commercials. It's just it's not like those rap videos and all that stuff That's ah mind controlling us. It's even um. 17:09.82 mikebledsoe Yeah. 17:26.61 Max Shank Like a Tv show where that's your model that you see and believe and now you think oh that's normal. Not this other thing and whatever you think is normal. That's what you're going to like reinforce. 17:32.32 mikebledsoe Yeah I've thought I've thought about this is I remember the first movie I went and saw in a theater I was five years old I don't remember seeing it but my mom told me that the first movie I saw was bambi and. 17:49.51 Max Shank Ah. 17:51.43 mikebledsoe And like I remember growing up and hunting and then people were like oh but you're going to kill bambi you know and I and I was always like well yeah I mean and I think that ah Disney movies are probably primarily responsible for veganism. At this point. 17:58.67 Max Shank If yeah. 18:09.57 Max Shank What whoa somebody saved that clip Jesus What a claim is off the wall I Love it go on. 18:09.76 mikebledsoe Is and. 18:13.35 mikebledsoe Well but it's well I mean so if we're talking about mind control and programming how many Disney films have talking animals that have the consciousness of human beings right? And so now what you have is a bunch of adults that think that the animals. Are equal to humans and there's nothing different about the 2 of us and they're people too and these are the types of things that you would most people would never be able to come to that conclusion unless they were None None 3 4 5 none watching animals talk and. This and that I'm not saying that animals don't think and don't have feelings and all that stuff but they're not us. 18:57.89 Max Shank I think the main difference is the talking thing I was thinking about this the other day like for example, it's okay, in some cultures to to eat ah a dog right? and and here it's totally okay to eat a pig. And right now that's fine. But if you were to have sex with a pig people would I think that's illegal I think it's ah or at least frowned upon if it's not illegal if it's not illegal. It's at least frowned upon in today's day and age it's because there are a lot of bigoted people out there who are discriminating against the yeah. 19:22.57 mikebledsoe I Think it's too legal. 19:36.84 Max Shank Beastie Alllet Tours I don't know whatever now picture this tomorrow tomorrow. You know what really grinds my gears is that Ah now imagine tomorrow Switch flipped pigs can speak english. 19:38.39 mikebledsoe Got a bone to pick max. Um. 19:52.54 mikebledsoe Ah. 19:56.22 Max Shank My guess is that the rules would exactly flip I think if pigs could speak English It would be perfectly legit to have sex with them and not okay to eat them anymore I think it's all about whether they can communicate. 20:08.35 mikebledsoe Well that that falls right in line with the Disney thing if you're witness lobsters having conversations with squirrels then you know like I can see what could happen for you anyways. 20:23.13 Max Shank Which one was the lobsters and the squirrels. 20:27.16 mikebledsoe Yeah I was mixing up my movies. So the back to the triangles and fishing poles the the max and I were talking about right before the show is we we would like to put together something. People are listening to this show. They like it I've gotten a few dms of people offering to send us money which we still haven't set up the donation page yet, but it'll get up eventually and um, watch should be None of those things where. 21:00.56 Max Shank Please please I'm hungry Please I'm hungry I'll eat I'll eat food. 21:02.10 mikebledsoe Thousands of dollars start rolling in and I'm like ah I should have set this up max is he's he's losing weight a pound a week right now he's gonna be nothing here by by Christmas and. 21:18.89 Max Shank I'm going on a food strike until those donations start rolling in. There's no way I'm doing that. Ah, okay, so we got the triangle We got the offer. 21:22.57 mikebledsoe No, ah so ah so I'm curious I'm curious about what it is that people people want I'm always curious about what is it that people want. Yeah oh well, a I look both. 21:36.60 Max Shank Our listeners or or all people. Okay I'll tell you what they want it goes back to um my my 3 levels theory here lizard mammal wizard people. 21:41.99 mikebledsoe Both So okay, let's go. 21:56.32 Max Shank In Lizard mode. They just want to be safe. They just want food. That's it. They're stuck and if you don't get out of that lizard Brain Mode. You're fucking lizard and you might thrash Around. You might have some sharp fangs and claws. But you're not going to fuck around with love or self-actualization which are the. Higher orders of thinking right? you go to the None tier which is the Mammalian brain the mammal wants to be loved So the lizard wants to be safe. The mammal wants to be loved and of course people will try to substitute ah food for love if they can't find it. At that level. So Let's just go back a step and so if people can get love I'm just always shoveling ice cream trying to fill the void in my heart with frozen cream out of a cow. Ah I Love it. Okay, so. 22:36.72 mikebledsoe This explains your ice cream habit. 22:54.55 Max Shank You get love as a mammal.. That's what you want and if you can go even beyond that your Self-actualization. You're following your Bliss. You're finding the intersection between doing what you feel totally blissed out doing you're in a flow state and it's good for the tribe. And you're safe. All that stuff is happening. You feel like you are expressing your most authentic or unfiltered self that feels good and of course in order to get to that point you usually need to be safe so secure The lizard Love the mammal. Free The Wizard. That's what people want and the form it takes can be different. Um you know sex and food and whatnot. 23:39.39 mikebledsoe Yeah, that's what they that's what people want they want they want safety love and after that it's yeah, um, be their best self. 23:48.30 Max Shank Self self actualization legacy. Maybe yeah. 23:53.72 mikebledsoe Find a lot of people hit self-actualization and want to help other people get the self- actualualization but don't There's not enough people. It's like we've had ah we've hit a tipping point or like ah we've slid back in society a bit good correct. Yeah enough people. There's not enough people that are. 24:03.22 Max Shank What do you mean? there aren't enough people who are trying to self-actualize or. 24:13.44 mikebledsoe At that point I think with the last couple years. Ah people slid back into survival and so a lot of a lot of the ah lot of people stopped spending money on things that were more in alignment with self-actualization and started. 24:15.61 Max Shank Ah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah. 24:31.61 mikebledsoe Buying more toilet paper now now we're in a depression. 24:32.70 Max Shank Word totally and it's interesting. How the word so closely mirrors the way that people feel when they're um, less Expressive. I Really hone in on that juxtaposition or that comparison between um, shoot I Just lost my train of thought depression expression. Yeah, exactly so being able to fully express yourself like I have a little note Card. It's just a. 24:53.33 mikebledsoe A. 24:58.85 mikebledsoe Depression expression. 25:09.97 Max Shank A small list. It's in ah, a copy of the doubtaging. It's like pocketsized and I realized a while ago for business for fitness the the list of of stuff should be pretty short overall like the general list that you follow through on and for me, it's like. Have sing I have dance I have climb I have swing like a sword or a rope or something like that. So I Just have these like little bullet points. Basically for what I want to do on a daily basis and the more I sing and dance the more expressive I feel and the less. Feel like filtered or damped down and the word expression itself is all about standing out. So It's like to stand and to be like expressed and it's um, it's important to harmonize that I think with. 25:50.59 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 26:07.40 Max Shank A feeling of oneness So like the exact opposite of expressing this expressing this unique ah sensation of an individual self and sync back in to the all-encompassing soup. 26:20.92 mikebledsoe Yeah, it can be done takes practice hold both. Um. 26:27.51 Max Shank Oh yeah, you were talking about how we're in a depression now and I don't know if it's that far yet. It's not ah I'm like. 26:35.24 mikebledsoe Yeah, well, there's there's more jobs available than there are people willing to work the jobs and. 26:42.56 Max Shank Now that that sounds like Greece a few years ago where it was like 50 I don't know if there's exact statistics but it was like just an overwhelming amount of people who were working in the government and an overwhelming amount of people who were just getting paid by the government and there was like nobody left who wanted to work. 26:57.69 mikebledsoe Yeah, well there I think it's just this. Ah this is one of those and this is just one of those times where you're. 27:02.23 Max Shank And I get it. 27:09.65 mikebledsoe In in business you have to be really good at having that solid offer you actually need to be solving a problem because I think yeah luxury items luxury services be the first to go. 27:18.50 Max Shank The less necessary. It is the sooner. It goes gone depending on the demographic. Yeah, and then it almost never changes for them. 27:28.50 mikebledsoe Um, unless unless you're serving the 1% and never changes well people. 27:36.40 Max Shank It's more individual changes. It's like ah individuals slide in and out of the 1% but as a group the 1% is always there. They're always super wealthy and it always has been since alpha males. 27:44.64 mikebledsoe Um, yeah, in fact, even during it during it during a downturn. They become even more wealthy and that's. 27:52.55 Max Shank Yeah, because they have the dry powder to be able to build rocket ships while you're just fishing furiously in the stream with your one pole because you're like fuck I I need to catch None fish today to feed my family I ain't got time to be building a fucking water wheel or a rocket ship or any of that. So you're just furiously swinging your pole in the water and what about him. 28:12.36 mikebledsoe This makes me think about ah Jeff Bezos talk about a guy talk about a guy who like set the plan in place. He may not have known he was gonna do what he's doing now but he was a online bookstore. 28:23.60 Max Shank Did. Amazing! amazing. 28:29.75 mikebledsoe That just slowly added more and more categories of shit to sell and now oh no, they they probably dwarf any other retail. There's no retailer that stands a chance against them. So. 28:36.26 Max Shank Here. 28:45.27 Max Shank Um, they're so there's they have such incredible economies of scale because they can provide such a crazy value now right? They have that bulk. 28:52.97 mikebledsoe Well I think I point that out because I think people think about scale before they think about solving the 1 problem he solved the 1 problem which is you can't find a book at your local bookstore right? once he once he crushed that then he had the ability to to scale. Both. 29:00.25 Max Shank I see. Right. 29:12.87 mikebledsoe Vertically and horizontally. 29:14.64 Max Shank Yeah I mean I remember him saying once people never want something to arrive slower. They never want it to be more expensive and he's like we just basically focus on that and it's not quite like Youtube. Um, but he's connected the buyers and the sellers in a marketplace he is the marketplace and he's got such a huge market share and the delivery. So actually one of the sides of the triangle you were talking about which is the delivery. 29:37.87 mikebledsoe Yeah, um. 29:53.11 Max Shank Of that offer or that good or service to the person is I mean what's better. What's better. You can get it same day. You can get it 2 day for free and usually it's a pretty seamless process to return that shit like you go into a coles you fuck. They. 29:56.77 mikebledsoe Yeah, the feature. 30:11.78 Max Shank You print out a label 1 ne-click ordering I mean there's a lot of utility there and it's all software based for the most part that's what's so great because we know that's outrageous leverage and of course Youtube has created um, created a marketplace. Right? A media marketplace where the creators like you and I and the advertisers also like you and I but usually different things can ah basically work together to use that flow of consciousness. So. It's really, a. 30:43.30 mikebledsoe Yeah Youtube Google Facebook Instagram yeah. 30:48.56 Max Shank Oh my god Youtube is such a home run. That's like the most insane I'm so hot on Youtube as a user and as a creator because like the videos I've put up five plus years ago are still getting lots of views and those views a small. 31:01.50 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 31:07.84 Max Shank Percentage converts into people who buy something from me and they're just there they're they're there like I don't even have to pay to have those things there like speaking of you don't need ah money to make money. Of course it's better to have more. It's easier to make money when you have a lot. 31:14.20 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, um. 31:25.63 Max Shank Like that's always been the case you know so. 31:26.60 mikebledsoe Yeah I want to go back to that the Amazon you're talking about people don't want things never want anything slower um in ah Alex hormose's hundred million dollar offers book which is one of the best books on offers I've ever read. Um, if if you're a coach. It's probably the. Like it. It very fits our industry but he talks about getting the 2 things that make something more valuable is speed and effort so less effort faster. An example that he uses in the book is. Why will so why would somebody spend $20000 on liposuction but have a hard time spending a couple thousand dollars on a trainer even though like it's obvious to everyone listening why you wouldn't want to get liposuction. But why can they charge that amount of money and there's. 32:20.79 Max Shank The speed and the ease. 32:22.67 mikebledsoe No, yeah, there's no um, shortage of people getting their fat rearranged by a surgeon. So. 32:31.97 Max Shank Well, it's like a different value system for that individual right? So they think their time is valuable. They don't think that um the cost of having their body sliced open is too high right. 32:47.11 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 32:50.25 Max Shank And they think and they believe the cost of exercising for a long time is is too high So simple cost right? It's simple cost benefit and when we talk about cost um calories in time are almost synonymous right? because without calories you're dead. 32:54.63 mikebledsoe It's too expensive. 33:07.83 Max Shank But you could also think of time as the resource and actually it's a little more practical to think of it that way like how many hours per day you can invest you have a fixed amount Yada Yada and then you have dollars and as far as. Investing is concerned mean your your stuff and your time is basically all you got right. 33:31.11 mikebledsoe Yeah, so two things I've been thinking about in regard to offers recently I've been asking myself None questions. The none question entered my mind. Um as I was talking to a buddy who's in the cosmetics industry and he found. He found a product that if he walked into a room 80% of the women wanted his product and that got me thinking I go wow what is a product that if I walked in a room more than half the room would want it. So. 34:07.38 Max Shank Just start hanging out with me. But um. 34:10.20 mikebledsoe That's right, that's right? Ah, but there's there are certain products. Um you know, 80% of the people are using toilet paper 80% of the people drink water you know at least um at least 80% but yeah so like ah. 34:18.16 Max Shank Wait only 80% do the ah I mean I guess some people use the wet wipes but like in America at least a lot of people wipe their ass with their hands. 34:29.50 mikebledsoe Learnings We got bad days and wet wet wipes. Yeah in hand. Yeah yeah. 34:35.80 Max Shank Also that yeah and hand for talking global. It's better to just focus on North America or America for the sake of these conversations right? That's where our audience is. 34:47.50 mikebledsoe Most of them I think we had someone listening from Chad someone from Chad was listening yesterday I'll show you the stats. Yeah so Chad um the ah so I was thinking about like what is what is it that. 34:51.27 Max Shank I apologize to all of our audience in Sudan fucking from from Chad no way that's funny. Ah. 35:06.49 mikebledsoe That almost everybody wants to have and then and then a couple months ago I started asking myself the question of like how would I add a zero to every time I sell something how would I how do I make it 10 times more valuable. So. 35:22.97 Max Shank Oh. 35:24.76 mikebledsoe Some people may hear that and go how do I make it 10 times more expensive. No 10 times more valuable at least so valuable that someone had to have it so those are like 2 thought experiments I've had around offers I think that you know. 35:38.73 Max Shank You have. 35:42.60 mikebledsoe 1 is what's the total addressable market. So how many people out there want or need yours and also looking at how many people are offering the same exact thing that also impacts the total addressable market. So if you can offer something that's truly unique. Your marketing doesn't even have to be that good that truly solves a problem. 35:51.67 Max Shank 9 36:01.49 mikebledsoe And ah, a lot of people want it. It doesn't have to be that great and then um I think it's also much easier to create good marketing when you have that really special unique offer. Um and then also the thought experiment. I really like to do is the the 10 x how do I make this None times more valuable. What would what would that product or service look like for those people or what are those people spending that much money on. So if I go okay, what do people spend none on the majority of the market that spends that kind of money. 36:31.00 Max Shank Oh. 36:39.37 mikebledsoe Usually a home wine. Yeah so ah anyways, and then and then the other experiment too is what would your? what would your offer look like if it was a None of the price. 36:40.35 Max Shank Wine. 36:47.13 Max Shank Individual bottles. 36:55.47 Max Shank Yeah I like the decimal. The decimal imagination is pretty good across the board for any of those like can we get it 10 times faster to them. Can we get the results 10 times faster can we make the experience last 10 times as long, you know all that. 36:56.65 mikebledsoe What could you deliver. 37:11.80 mikebledsoe Yeah, um, yeah. 37:14.78 Max Shank Is ah it's a clean visualization for some reason it it expands way more than thinking of doubling it I mean of course mathematically. 37:19.44 mikebledsoe Well doubling doesn't work doubling doubling doesn't work because people I believe that people's minds will start gravitating towards working twice as hard. It's It's a lot easier to work twice as hard that if I say. 37:32.10 Max Shank Oh here. 37:38.36 mikebledsoe the the 10 x thinking is a governor on how much work you can do because you can't work 10 times more than you're already working I mean unless you're only working an hour a da hour then then you could shut up max. But then. 37:46.62 Max Shank Yeah I mean I could. 37:54.70 Max Shank Ah, hey this is work is my work for the day. 37:55.57 mikebledsoe But then um, yeah, there you go? Ah so so the 10 x thinking really does force people into a high leverage way of thinking. It's a higher order of thinking. 38:05.42 Max Shank I agree. You also said something that I was just talking about yesterday which is huge is you don't want to identify with suffering I mean you can if you want to but I feel like it is a major inhibitor in the results you get. Because instead of your ah result being proportional to the result itself your your metric is how much you suffered and the ratio of how much you suffered to what you produced and I think that um holds a lot of people in a. 38:38.16 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 38:44.92 Max Shank Really diminished state because the the value that they were taught either implicitly or explicitly is that suffering is the value. Not the value is the value and hey that's fucked and I'm sorry if that's you ah. But you can change your mind if you want to. 39:06.58 mikebledsoe Ah, you're you're spot on. Yeah there there was a period of time where I didn't yeah. 39:13.72 Max Shank That's what I learned I mean full disclosure. That's what I learned like if you suffer more you're more good and the reality is ah like that's kind of true historically like when we tell stories if a guy suffers a lot. We're like man that Martyr was a real badass. He got. Drawn and quartered for what he believed in or this guy got crucified for what he believed in I mean crazy right? So you don't want to identify with suffering. It's way it's way more It's kind of a ah weird selfish thing. 39:34.23 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah, wild. 39:49.29 Max Shank And if you really focus on solving a problem for somebody else. You'll recognize that your suffering is totally irrelevant except for the fact that if you suffer more you'll probably be able to produce less. So so. 40:00.32 mikebledsoe Yeah, the um ah in my in my trainings a lot of times I have students they do a journaling about how about the the collapse distinction of sacrifice and service and. 40:16.62 Max Shank Oh shit. That's a good one I hope you have that written down. It's nice. 1 40:19.67 mikebledsoe Yeah, So there's yeah, there's there's this it happens a lot with people with military Backgrounds Blue Colar Backgrounds I mean such as max and I come come from these types of backgrounds and the idea is that. Sacrifices and service are like intermingled constantly in the language. So as you're getting older because here's the thing we learn definitions of words through context we don't sit Down. We weren't taught each word and sat down and. Go Oh Let's look at the dictionary so we learn everything through context and so unconsciously a lot of us when when people hear about service their mind automatically translate that to be associated with sacrifice as Well. And so. 41:12.82 Max Shank Get right. 41:14.92 mikebledsoe What ends up happening I see this a lot with mothers is if they like they they can't enjoy themselves because the moment they start enjoying themselves. They're not being a good mom. Yeah, exactly exactly So this. 41:18.34 Max Shank Oh yeah, the Sufferin mama. 41:27.80 Max Shank They're a bad mom. You're a bad mom. What are you fucking enjoying yourself bad mom. 41:34.74 mikebledsoe This idea So I have everyone journal out you know, ah the definition of each go look it up just go look it out and write it down now. Can you have service without sacrifice. Can you have sacrifice without service. Yes, on both. So. 41:40.86 Max Shank M. 41:50.24 Max Shank Depends on how you define sacrifice 1 of the definitions I think for sacrifice is just ah like what are you? What are you paying right? I'm sacrificing this in exchange for this. So it really depends on the. 41:53.71 mikebledsoe Um. 41:57.89 mikebledsoe Yeah, well my friend Jesse just yeah well Jesse Elder defined the sacrifice is that you the difference between sacrificing and investing is. 42:07.32 Max Shank The definition. So what you said is right? You just have to have it there. 42:16.53 mikebledsoe A lot of times people use the word sacrifice when they're talking about giving up something now for something greater later and that's yeah and that's technically an investment. Not a sacrifice sacrifice is when you give up something for a lesser value. So that's. 42:21.74 Max Shank Like in a chess game when you do a sacrifice for a gambit. 42:35.33 mikebledsoe That's a distinction that he's created that I that I find to be really useful that may not necessarily be true, but it's a really useful way to think possible. What. 42:39.58 Max Shank Um, you know I don't even know if it's possible to sacrifice something for a lesser value because in that moment you are making a value estimation. On what you're going to get out of this behavior. So I think you are always ah basically gambling. Um, it kind of is similar to yeah I think I mean people always do what they think is going to get them. 43:04.90 mikebledsoe Ah, sometimes people know that they're gonna I don't know it's hard to say I. Well, let's get out. 43:15.94 Max Shank The the most for the least if we want it if we want to simplify it down people want the most for the least and sometimes what they give up is not worth as much as what they got is like my friend Rob says is the fucking you're getting worth the fucking. You're getting. 43:32.52 mikebledsoe Um, or going like this. Yeah. 43:33.84 Max Shank Ah, ah what you made me think of you. What me? what you made me think of though um was why I think ah tolerance is the worst thing in the world I think being able to I think. 43:48.85 mikebledsoe Dude you live in California you're supposed to be tolerant of everything everybody all the time you you should have a flat flat set of values. Everything should be the same value all the time. 43:52.76 Max Shank No okay so go go ahead and lump lump me in lump me in with tens of millions of people in a sweeping generalization because I'm such a normal such ah because I'm such a normal fucking dude in the None place right. 44:02.66 mikebledsoe I Just did I. 44:11.11 mikebledsoe Ah. 44:12.38 Max Shank Jesus fucking Christ so being able to tolerate physical forces. That's good. That's athletic, right? But when people tolerate something. Ah let's say psychologically or relationship. Wise it's ah it's one of the worst things you can do because you're not what you should do is you should reject it or you should accept it and I think people make the mistake of they tolerate. Which is like they're being wounded constantly and they build this resentment from this little barbed wound so you should either accept it fully or reject it but you should never tolerate never tolerate behavior you don't want accept it. Let it go or reject that shit. 45:02.91 mikebledsoe Ooh. 45:07.80 Max Shank Don't fucking tolerate. It's the work tolerant. You heard it here first. Tolerance is the worst thing for a relationship. That's what's up. 45:13.70 mikebledsoe I Love it I Love it. You're right I like the acceptance or reject it. Tolerance tolerance is like I don't want to make a choice I don't want to. It's a lack of responsibility in the context your. 45:25.60 Max Shank Um, yeah, no, it's even worse. It is a choice. It is a choice I'm gonna I'm gonna watch I'm gonna watch this thing that a person does and I'm not gonna like it and I'm gonna Harbor resentment because of it. 45:32.42 mikebledsoe Well, every non-choice is a choice. 45:45.00 Max Shank And it's going to feel like and it's going to feel like a perpetual cost is's going to feel like ah, a perpetual suffering. It's going to feel like a sacrifice. That's what made me think of it is like you're you're you're now in a psychological energetic debt because you are tolerating instead of accepting. 45:51.37 mikebledsoe Ah. 46:02.80 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 46:04.66 Max Shank And it's like that French phrase to know all is to forgive all like you know full acceptance is going to allow that energy to flow full rejection is going to allow you to flow your energy elsewhere but Tolerance is just this like parasitic energy leakage where nobody's winning. Out of that Deal. Tolerance sucks. 46:24.55 mikebledsoe I Really I Really like that perspective. That's that's brand new for me I'm gonna write some things down. But I think that's just gonna be the title of the show is tolerant sucks. 46:41.64 Max Shank I knew I stumbled onto something good here. This is a new thing for me too. It's when within the last week some headline shit. Yeah. 46:42.95 mikebledsoe Yeah, some headline shit. Oh yeah, yeah, what did you? What did you? What caused you to stumble across this one. What we got you thinking on this. Do you remember you might be like me, you just wake up and you're like ah. 46:55.54 Max Shank So my my my special lit I mean I'm kind of like Richard Feynman in that sense where like I just get a kick out of thinking about things I like to dance around with sticks and ropes and clubs and swords and that kind of shit. But. 47:06.10 mikebledsoe Ah. 47:14.72 Max Shank I also get a real kick out of just sitting in a big comfy chair and thinking about shit you know, but this time ah I was talking with my special lady friend. None of her friends. Ah, just recently broke up with her boyfriend right? And so. She went to go console this friend. She told me a little bit about what's going on nothing like no grizzly details or anything like that just in um, you know generalities. How do you interact and relate to another person and. You realize that it's ah it's rarely something like all at once that sends it to hell there is a straw that breaks the Camel's back but there's always something in the background that is being tolerated. That's the problem is like something has been tolerated instead of accepted or rejected. Accepted boom floodgates are open rejected boom the gates are closed and so as far as like ascribing fault to None party or the other like the the alleged offender or the one who's just quietly suffering those offenses. It's like. You got to take away that resentful tolerance and accept everything whole heart as it is or you got to reject it a little bit more forcefully and the longer those boundaries get ah, blurred and fuzzy and. You move your boundaries in and you feel resentment because now you're not really comfortable because your boundaries aren't where you'd like them to be um, it. It just seems so clear to me now even looking back at all my past relationships and I've never felt better about that. Personally because you just learn something from everybody and you appreciate the time for what it was and it's it's very easy to become ah resentful and I think that's ah all because of tolerance instead of acceptance or rejection. 49:21.30 mikebledsoe Love it. Love it. Thank you for that one all right? What's have do with ah fishing poles. Yep. 49:24.63 Max Shank And yeah, man, Thank you, You want to know so people often ah resent their circumstances and they tolerate their circumstances but they don't fully accept them either. And that's like having a big chip on your shoulder. Ah and and you're stuck in this ideology rather than just accepting where where you are here and now and realizing that what you have is here and now and whatever you have. That's what the fuck you have. And if you're like but that other guy has more. It's like Okay, yeah, yeah, he does so like a thousand years ago. The guy who had. 50:08.62 mikebledsoe What are you gonna do about it anytime anyone complains about something I ask them? What are you gonna do about it and a lot of time that throws people off. 50:19.83 Max Shank Um, well look. You should either be ah like asking for help or offering help Really if you're not sure what to do like ask for help or offer help You're not going to get anywhere. 50:29.63 mikebledsoe Yeah. 50:35.87 Max Shank By complaining unless you go into politics then you can get a tremendous amount you can actually get more power and money than anyone else in the world If you just come That's professional level complaining. 50:43.67 mikebledsoe Could you imagine if if ah could you imagine? ah like ah a Ceo going out in the world and complaining for his marketing just going out there and complaining about shit. 50:59.28 Max Shank Ah, Amazing. You can only complain as part of your marketing If. You're complaining about the state of the market I Can't believe how horrible this market is. That's why I came in here to change the game with my new and improved version of what this market is lacking like there's a., There's ah, there's a place for it for sure. But yeah I I think ah, you don't want to tolerate your situation you fucking accept it or you reject it and you come up with a new one. But I think I Really think Tolerance is like ah a really bad value. Ah, in the sense that we're talking about and in the sense of physical forces. It's one of the best ever means you can tolerate a huge amount of force without ah deform ah plastic deformation right? without breaking or deforming. So That's that's a good thing physically and then energetically acceptance not tolerance but acceptance so I think that applies to where people are in their lives. Professionally I think Also I think a lot about. A lot of acceptance is about seeing things for what they truly are and when it comes to putting an offer together. It's like it's great if you like something but it doesn't mean that other people have to like it and the same thing is true for like a solution that worked for you. It. It may not be the solution that everybody else wants and I think that's ah, that's how a lot of people get sucked into some sort of weird fanaticism or zealotry I'm trying to think of a less fancy word but they get they get really hyper about something. Because it really worked well for them and then they start basically using a hammer to bash down every screw that they find because they don't know the difference in what is being presented in that other person versus what happened to them. They're like oh my God I did hamstring curls and it cured my life. Everyone's doing hamstring curls and I've I've attended maybe 50 weekend seminars in my life. No. Well I mean as a student I've taught like 200 but I I would ah I would notice it in myself. I'd go to a seminar I'd come back and I would just be like parroting that shit I couldn't help it you know and as I started teaching more seminars I made more and more of a point to remind people to not just like brain dump. 53:31.78 mikebledsoe Yeah. 53:46.65 Max Shank Everything I told them on their new clients and think that you know it's a 1 ne-size fits all approach to everything. 53:50.90 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah I had a ah talk with a guy the other day where I told him just that in his marketing is focus on the benefits. Not the features. He had all these features it was revolutionary for him. 54:05.10 Max Shank Revolutionary Revolutionary Revolutionary The features just need to be a bullet point to justify the price I think unless it's part of the story. 54:08.55 mikebledsoe But it's well this is this is the problem. Well None problem is people are focused on the people people know the features and they think that if I they tell other people the features they're going to get the value of it but they need to hear the benefit they're going to get from the features. But the other thing is is going back to being in touch with reality I'm not sure. There's you know I think there's some coaches out there that are telling other coaches that you know they can make a million dollars you know following their their bliss type of thing. But. 54:45.90 Max Shank Some of them some of them. Yeah. 54:47.64 mikebledsoe Some of them some of them can and I think part of it is like some of them did and then they turn around tell people do the same thing but that doesn't always work. So for instance, yeah. 54:56.64 Max Shank It's like multi-level marketing. It's like multi-level marketing like 90% of the people. Ah, it didn't have what it takes in the none place and did nothing with it and then a small percentage are like fucking rock stars and they're like. What is this an electric dildo some fancy antioxidant berry juice I'll sell None of them this month I'm on it. You know what? I mean it doesn't it doesn't matter even what it is. There's just that crew that will always do well. But. 55:14.20 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But I get for instance I'll get a I'll get a coach as I'm like um I'm like okay, what are your goals. Oh I want to be able to make x amount of dollars. I was like okay your business needs to make this amount if you want to take this amount home and there and then it's kind of like a oh shit and I'm like okay who's your who's your client like what type people are you serving is like well mma fighters in their early twenty s trying to go pro. 55:32.25 Max Shank Well. 55:50.50 mikebledsoe And I go Well do those guys have money. Do they have and and do they valueate? Yeah I mean and well I think most guys trying to go pro and mate don't have money I I. 55:54.28 Max Shank Do they want this I mean a lot of them may have money but do they want it. 56:05.48 Max Shank My experience is the same I used to want to train those guys like my gym at the very beginning because I was into all that shit I was like a fucking retarded testosterone out 21 year old when I started my gym I was I was fighting in the cage. 56:08.46 mikebledsoe Okay, yeah. 56:25.37 Max Shank Was like I am a tough motherfucker and I'm gonna fill this gym full of guys just like me and you know what those guys didn't pay a God damn thing those guys suck Those guys are those guys are always about like. 56:30.30 mikebledsoe Yep. 56:39.51 Max Shank Ah, dude I'll tweet you bro and I'm like oh Jesus fucking. It didn't take long for me to head down to the country clubs and swoop up some of the 45 to 65 range there are easier businesses and hard businesses. Let's just say it that way. 56:41.49 mikebledsoe I'm great people. 56:46.79 mikebledsoe Exactly exactly? Yeah, so like what I. 56:59.15 Max Shank There are easier businesses. There are things that people already want and there are things that are a tough sell. 57:01.69 mikebledsoe Yeah, well here here's the thing I I do 2 things for free. So I get.? Yeah yeah I did 2 things I have 2 offers for free that I give people and both of them tap into my expertise that I normally get paid for or at least used to get paid for and I am he ruined it as. 57:11.61 Max Shank I'm excited by whatever these 2 things are going to be by the way. Ah. 57:25.76 Max Shank Is it prostate massage is that one of them. Sorry. 57:31.23 mikebledsoe Um, so I give these things away and I and I love it because I don't charge a dime for it whereas a bunch of other people are trying to figure out how to charge what I'm doing when I'm offering for free and the only reason I can offer it for free is because I have. Paying customers somewhere else people that actually do have money. 57:50.81 Max Shank Oh shit, he's flexing on y'all right now I give away better stuff for free may maybe better. You don't always get what you pay for, but it's because you are so confident. 57:57.60 mikebledsoe Well not yeah, probably but like maybe better you don't always get me pay for it. 58:08.12 Max Shank In your ecosystem right? that you have created that once they experience something you've given them for free. You got None of value down the road right? no. 58:15.17 mikebledsoe Well well here's the thing is thinking about like um, well yeah, maybe but actually I don't have a plan for it at all with the 2 things I like I have no plan for either None of these things to ever make money and these are. But types of thing people want to help people who it's charity. That's not really it's not it's not really charity um oh no, what? what? I give away for free is I do a Tuesday night workout for a handful of my buddies at my house. 58:32.25 Max Shank Um, so it's so it's marketing. No fuck you. It's not char you it's marketing a free book is great marketing. 58:48.71 Max Shank Oh that's nice. Yeah, that sounds great. 58:51.82 mikebledsoe Right? And then we grill some meat afterwards and we kick it and they get world-class training. You know most of them never been exposed to like a coach that's been exposed to things I've been exposed to so they're getting their minds blown. They're learning more about their bodies for an hour once a week and. 59:09.18 Max Shank I dig it. 59:10.76 mikebledsoe I and I never care to train pay you know accept money for for physical training. So I do that So I give that away for free and then I give away which I give that to people who don't know that they could get training right? like they don't even know to go get it but because. 59:25.58 Max Shank Right. 59:29.20 mikebledsoe My friends I'm like come over to my house I'll I'll I'll treat you and then on Thursday mornings I have I meet with these guys who are blue collar and these guys could can't afford me for for the types of of advice and. Coaching that I would give but if they can figure out a way to make time out of their day at None a m on Thursdays I meet with them at the park. We kick it for an hour and I just help them with whatever it is. That's going on in their life. Well I just kept on coming across all these guys so like ah it was like I was getting like all these blue collar guys like. 59:59.36 Max Shank No kidding How do you set this one up. 01:00:08.40 mikebledsoe I'd be at a cafe student just couldn't stop talking to me so I was like I Well I guess I'm not supposed to work' going to supposed to talk to this guy. So I talked to this guy I'm like oh you start sharing his problems with me is like I don't know why I all a sudden look like a a target for other people's problems. But then. 01:00:16.86 Max Shank Ah. 01:00:26.97 mikebledsoe I Got a guy that came to saw saw me solar and you know the the conversation turned and he needed some help so I was able to give him some help and then another guy I met ah you know at the at the gym same thing like you know he's he's. Somehow what opens up to me and starts talking and then so I got these guys and I'm like look if you have any of your other friends that you know and some of these guys are dealing. You know they're dealing with some heavy like legal stuff and all sorts of crazy shit and so I'm meeting with them and. For most of them the benefit they get is just understanding that whatever they're experiencing internally other guys are experiencing that same thing internally too. I mean that that by itself is just so healing because most of these guys they screwed up something we Well we all screwed up. 01:01:14.37 Max Shank Ah. Lost Boys their lost boys. 01:01:23.26 mikebledsoe We we all screw up in our life. Yeah, we all screw up in our life At some point right? and then we then we judge our s ourselves for having screwed up and most guys they just clam up and never share that with anybody because they think that their situation is truly unique. 01:01:33.28 Max Shank Often. Talk about suppressing right? I mean who suppresses more than dudes with their feelings. Ah. 01:01:41.70 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, So um, so just just the act of getting out and hanging out and talking about it and then realizing that other dudes have the same problems and then and then I'll obviously also offering strategies for dealing with. These things. Yeah, so these are 2 things that I like to I just do for for free that I know other people are trying to charge for and if you're trying to sell coaching to somebody that doesn't have money like I don't have any interest in trying to sell something. 01:02:02.70 Max Shank It's like a feeling of a community. It sounds like. 01:02:18.38 mikebledsoe To the blue collar I'm not gonna go sell coaching to the blue collar community one. They're not really looking for it. Um, and ah because they don't know it exists. They just don't even know it exists. Yeah. 01:02:22.90 Max Shank But now. 01:02:31.73 Max Shank You're talking about using the right bait for the right fish basically and the fact that not everything has to be ah, a monetary exchange because my guess is you get a tremendous amount out of these experiences every week otherwise you would not do them. 01:02:38.25 mikebledsoe Not everything. 01:02:44.47 mikebledsoe I Absolutely so but the only reason I can do them is because I am using the right bait with the right fish somewhere else that feeds me it pays my bills it. 01:02:53.96 Max Shank Exactly you got a crew of guys out on a fleet of boats. They're catching fish you're shooting the breeze with the guy at the diner and if you don't free up your time. Ah, you're always stuck with the pole. 01:03:02.32 mikebledsoe Exactly. 01:03:11.21 Max Shank In the River You don't have a chance to tell other guys about fishing. You don't have a chance to just relax on the beach yourself. Um, yeah, that's a really interesting way to use our resources right? It's like you're using your resources to get something that. 01:03:29.84 mikebledsoe Yeah, well, ah, there's ah this this actually happens in like a lot of the the medicine world like I learned about this from Ashley she's psychotherapist and they have this thing called a sliding scale. So you know they may charge. 01:03:31.12 Max Shank Ah, you can't purchase. 01:03:49.28 mikebledsoe Two hundred bucks, two hundred and fifty three hundred bucks an hour as as a psychotherapist to their clients. But if someone comes in There's a certain number of spots they have allotted that they're allowed to go down in a sliding scalells like you know I'm only in charge you a hundred bucks because I know you can't afford it in this and that and I look at it I go man. Ah, sliding scale is too narrow I want a sliding scale where I'm charging this person $3000 per hour and then I'm giving this person the thing for twenty bucks an hour or five bucks an hour or free ends. 01:04:20.22 Max Shank Well, that just means you're good at drawing a boundary of what you feel comfortable with my my thing is people pay full price. Ah for what I'm doing or they pay nothing and I I I like that I like that idea better. 01:04:31.70 mikebledsoe Yeah, that's that's pretty much I don't I don't do discounts either. You know. 01:04:39.83 Max Shank Because um, when I was when I was coming up when I was just a young book coming up I was ah you know started out coaching people

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00:01.12 Max Shank Here's the deal. So there's a perfect, no intro this we're just here now you're here we're here I'm here you're here. We're all here the official show but this is for just the like inner club. But anyway I was going to say a case study. 00:02.60 mikebledsoe It's the first one. 00:16.94 mikebledsoe We'll do the intro when we start the official show. 00:35.54 Max Shank On viewer engagement. One of the best I've ever seen was this Youtube channel called Ants Canada okay I think it's like a filipino dude. It's some asian guy who has this Youtube channel called Ants Canada and every fucking film. 00:51.20 mikebledsoe Ahead. 01:14.58 Max Shank Is about ants and ant colonies and he sells ant gear but basically he has this membership that he calls the Ac senate right? and so he basically has people pay to have a say in all kinds of weird stuff like. What are we gonna do with this new colony. What are we gonna name this thing and he gives them like preferential voting rights for what happens in the community. It's so crazy. How ah how much this guy connects with the audience. And's so it's a weird stuff ah because ants and ant colonies are pretty weird but talk about a case study for how to engage with an audience. This guy is dialed ants Canada case study ants st ants canada is a case study for. 02:57.28 mikebledsoe Aunts Canada alright. 03:07.76 Max Shank How to engage with your audience on multiple levels. He sells physical products. He has basically ah a membership where you get called? yeah like ants like the bug the insect. Yeah exactly it's incredible. 03:28.28 mikebledsoe It's a and TS like like the like the insect to podcast. 03:46.40 Max Shank No, it's video series Youtube thing. It's not a podcast but he sells ant colony plastic molded parts to people. He also has this this. It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard of like you would wonder like why is it that people would pay to get to make decisions but he has positioned the joy of naming a new ant colony or deciding what to do. In this like new video series as good as Tom Sawyer ah portraying the benefits of whitewashing offense. He's like wouldn't you guys like to make this decision for him like they are driving his content and paying to drive the content. It's. 05:30.86 mikebledsoe It's really I mean it's as Facebook Twitter you know create the platform. Yeah create the platform and just let them let the let the people be the product was that the people will create the product. They'll be the product. 05:32.38 Max Shank It's unbelievable Youtube oh my god what an acquisition. 06:02.50 mikebledsoe And then you just sell advertising. 06:08.32 Max Shank It's like ah what they did with was it Hong Kong or Singapore can't I remember 1 of them. It's like the guy's name was Lee coshing you ever hear that guy. Ah. 06:30.90 mikebledsoe E. 06:41.24 Max Shank Rikash xing Hong Kong business magnate none richest guy in the world. His whole thing. He just like built up. Ah let's see hold on. I don't know his whole thing was about owning the port that that was the that was the ah whole story. Basically. 07:24.20 mikebledsoe Ah, yeah, it's kind of like the the gold rush. The people who made the most money were the ones selling the shovels I think that's where maybe Levi's came from the blue jeans is yeah I'm not 100% sure on this but I I think that ah that. 07:38.16 Max Shank Right. Um, leave eyes. 08:03.32 mikebledsoe That denim company or maybe another denim company Levi's make sense though. Ah made their fortune and their start by selling denim clothing to miners. It's really durable. 08:25.20 Max Shank Like little kids or like go look for gold in the mines Now they probably send sell more to little kids I don't know I don't wear a lot of jeans. Do you wear a lot of jeans. 08:36.64 mikebledsoe Look go look for golden mines. Yeah, yeah, off to I'd like to not anymore not with the not with the clothes that come out today I just discovered. Um. 09:02.16 Max Shank I Hardly wear jeans. It's not that comfortable. 09:15.54 mikebledsoe Viori made a new pant that is looks really clean, but dude great for travel because I can wear them in a hundred degree weather I might as well be wearing shorts they breathe So well, they look nice and you know I. 09:24.24 Max Shank Ah. Are yeah. 09:51.22 mikebledsoe I Don't even like to wear shorts I don't like to wear casual shorts I Either want to wear pants or athletic shorts and it might be something it might be like spillover from the the military because that's pretty much how it works there. But I think like casual shorts look silly on men. Ah. 10:01.80 Max Shank A. 10:17.60 Max Shank Right? right. Um, like what? what do you mean?? casual shorts like cargo pants. 10:31.28 mikebledsoe That's just like you know like yeah like like cargo shorts or just like the shorts that are pants that are cut off. You know it's It's like those are kind of silly. It's like when I just wear athletic shorts I'm like an athletic shorts and fanny pack or I'm going to be wearing. 10:49.96 Max Shank Ah, you know what. 11:07.94 mikebledsoe You know some slacks. 11:10.94 Max Shank You know what? I'm really into is like the like the ah Rei type of hiking pant and I and I want to get some that turn into shorts but I was thinking about it and I don't know if I would rather have them unzip all the way. 11:22.78 mikebledsoe Yeah. 11:47.58 Max Shank Or if I would want to have them roll up and clip on I haven't seen many like that there are some out there because I have I have a couple pairs totally but the utility I mean. 11:51.50 mikebledsoe I think roll up and clip on makes more sense there. There are some out there I've seen some yeah the zip out I try to avoid moving parts as I try to. Until the zipper breaks plus rolling up just looks way cooler. That's that's the real Rob there they look cooler than having a zipper hanging off your shorts. 12:26.52 Max Shank Is fantastic. So maybe maybe the roll up till the zipper breaks. Yeah, that's a good point. Those are my my favorite pants I got a couple at Costco they're just. 12:57.00 Max Shank Yeah, that's a great point I went on a bike ride yesterday actually mountain bike ride for the None time in like years. Ah, all because I was learning about air compressors and how our compressors work. 13:03.40 mikebledsoe I mean. 13:34.56 Max Shank And so I was getting out my air compressor and I was like how how does my air compressor work. How powerful is this thing Really what kind of stuff because I bought one when I got my house because I was like every house needs an air compressor because I was ah like I didn't really know? Yeah, like yeah. 13:59.32 mikebledsoe Oh like a proper air compressor one with a big tank. Yeah, not the kind that you carry around in your car. Yeah something you could use with tools and whatnot. Yeah yeah, I'm into those those. 14:12.76 Max Shank Like a little pancake. No no I wouldn't It's a little too big and heavy for that. Yeah, like a nail gun staple gun that kind of thing and so those things are savage. 14:36.38 mikebledsoe I've got some air compressor tools. If if you're gonna work on a car I don't know how I don't know how I worked on a car before I have that which I don't really work on cars much anymore. But I remember that being a major upgrade. 15:04.26 Max Shank Yeah I think knowing how to put stuff together like that is such an underrated ability because I notice as I am problem solving in the garage with my hands. It makes me it makes it easier for me to visualize how to put other things together. Like Ideas. You know this attaches to this and you have to divide this. You have to sharpen this. You have to round off these edges. There are all these problem solving things that go on with how to put stuff together and it makes me even think of like mathematics how that factors in to. 15:43.16 mikebledsoe Yeah, well, there's um. 16:20.62 Max Shank Putting stuff together and how much how much you just learn through the process of doing it. You know it's good to know arithmetic. But I have it. 16:32.70 mikebledsoe There's a book. There's a book called the metaphors we live by and have you read it did you did you buy it on my recommendation or did you just happen to get it simultaneously. Wow Yeah I I hardly run in anyone who's read it. Ah. 16:52.62 Max Shank I think I had I think I bought it before? Yeah yeah, ah yes, and like most books I've read I maybe retained like 10% 17:08.18 mikebledsoe But have you read it. 17:22.74 mikebledsoe Got it? Yeah so metaphors we live by really highlights how the mind works and that everything in the mind is a metaphor to something an objective reality and so ah so kind of like the. 17:53.96 Max Shank Right now. 18:00.98 mikebledsoe Projectile and project metaphor We talked about before yeah eyeballs. Um. 18:06.94 Max Shank Eyeballs eyeballs are super reliable but they're not showing you objective reality because there are a lot of layers. 18:19.88 mikebledsoe Well, they are but you're not filtering it. But anyways. 18:32.44 Max Shank Well your eyes don't show you objective reality your eyes show you? How light is reacting with matter but there's a lot going on that is beyond. The visible spectrum is what I'm saying. 18:44.12 mikebledsoe Yeah. 18:55.10 mikebledsoe Totally. But so one of the things it talks about is ah like ontological metaphors and so one is how we refer to the mind. So the mind is a machine so there's all these examples of. 19:26.90 Max Shank A. 19:33.86 mikebledsoe Ah, that in in the English language the mind is a machine and it's also brittle and so when you look at the English language as a whole the majority of the references to the mind is that it's a mechanical thing that's brittle. 19:48.36 Max Shank A. 20:09.12 Max Shank Right? It sounds dangerous. Sounds like a dangerous belief to me like that that makes me a little queasy even based on how I see the mind or how I would try to define the mind or even just the brain. 20:13.48 mikebledsoe And so ah, people believe that it yes and. 20:44.32 mikebledsoe Yeah, but but you know and and it's common language is as people are talking are unconsciously talking about it in this way. So they're further embedding this thing is true and so they they they don't know how to treat their own own mind or organize it because they actually have an incorrect. 20:48.30 Max Shank Like the organ because I think that's different. 21:00.58 Max Shank Um, right right. 21:23.92 mikebledsoe Or an inaccurate view of what it actually is ah so one of the things the book talks about is how we use objects to ah create Concepts so anything that's conceptual. We're having we need to. 21:28.26 Max Shank He no. 21:48.00 Max Shank E. 21:58.28 mikebledsoe Associate it with an object out in physical space and so ah, one of the things that I've noticed I'm in total agreement with you I've been I've been meditating on this because I read that book about a year ago and I noticed that as I've been doing more physical tasks and building things that my ability to problem solving in the conceptual realm has gone way up and anytime I'm having a conceptual problem I go work on something that's on an object I go build something or fix something. Ah. 22:45.12 Max Shank A. 23:07.18 mikebledsoe All of a sudden the world makes more sense and I think part of that is if we spend too much time in the conceptual Realm without being in the objective Realm Then we end up. Ah, we end up way out in this place that doesn't make any sense. And and we become ungrounded and I know you and ah I are alike in this way because we love the mental Masturbation. We'll go off into some conceptual Realm and start changing. You know, ah physicists do this. They'll change one lot of physics to solve a problem and then they try to. Bring it back and so and then reapply to law and and it's one way of doing experimentation but the problem is a lot of people start doing that and they never come back to Earth and so I think having that balance between doing things and objective reality and conceptual. And conceptualizing things is really really beneficial. 25:12.48 Max Shank Oh Yeah I was laughing so many times there because it makes me think about how enslaved people are by thinking certain things matter and the word matter is funny right? Because. Stuff matters. Ah you know water is matter air is matter and these ideas that we have. It's like we think too many things matter that aren't matter at all. 25:51.44 mikebledsoe Right. 26:02.36 mikebledsoe This bottle is matter. 26:26.50 mikebledsoe Ah, well does just to make the statement that something is matter that isn't matter pulls you out of reality. You've become ungrounded. 26:28.36 Max Shank And you are just more and more divorced from reality because hold right? of course look um these words and ideas are. Very useful and it's never the complete truth because they're just symbols right? but they are concrete enough to give us the plans to make a plane or a computer I mean that's all language derived and that's how the matter is directed. So. The ideas are like the pattern like Pattern Pattern father and the stuff the substance the matter the mother ma her modern is ah guided by our ideas. But if you don't have what's that yeah. 28:09.34 mikebledsoe Oh man I'm loving these metaphors that that makes so much sense because that the father is is the structure of like the pattern structure and the matter is the stuff. 28:23.80 Max Shank Yeah, if you don't yeah if you don't have the father's the pattern the Pattern the pattern right? mother is the matter. Yeah, the stuff and the ah the energy. 28:47.40 mikebledsoe Yeah. 28:55.84 Max Shank It's like kinetic and potential I mean there are a lot of ways that you can ah yin and young and dichotomize these ideas right? But ah my point is that we are made of matter you eat an orange. You actually are that orange is becoming you. And your body is able to break it down into its basic components and then that stuff becomes you and the stuff that doesn't become you becomes shit or sweat or something like I mean it's crazy, but it literally becomes you so this idea. That when you um, get your hands involved. You get so much of your brain involved and then it's rooted in a reality that is very easy to understand. It's very It's all about, um. God I guess it's all about power really when you get down to it because we're talking about ah force times distance ah or work over time is power ah, power is work over time work is force times distance. And that's that's a reality that's easy to track momentum things like that all this dark matter. Ah like black hole shit is mental masturbation. It's fine. It's mental masturbation though. But once you start getting in there and you can do macrame you can. Ah, make something out of wood. You could carve something out of Clay. Ah but building that connection between your creativity and your curiosity and this physical reality is critical and if you apply that same thing to fitness. Fitness is essentially ah how well you're able to deliver force how well you're able to deliver force into your right leg so you can run and take a step with your right leg and how well you can absorb. 32:56.36 mikebledsoe Yeah. 33:21.00 Max Shank And return Force I Mean That's why my latest training program is called elasticity because it's all about absorbing and returning forests without ah permanent deformation and that's that's like as close as you can get to the best longevity practice. And we all have our pet loves for ah what makes fitness good or what makes you live a long time. But if you ah you know have good friendships and family kind of ties if you have fun and if you. Ah, fast. So You just don't eat too Much. You'll live a really long time even if you're just like medium elastic Fitness you just need ah a basic level of how to interact with your environment with these alternating forces. 34:48.74 mikebledsoe Yeah. 35:06.26 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 35:11.64 Max Shank Ah, so it just it's very centering even climbing a tree go climb a tree and then you are like intimately associated with the forces required to lift you up off the ground and once you're in those situations you have room to explore and then this. Idea of like what matters or like what you should be fucking prideful of like I God I was just thinking the other day you know almost every holiday is about victimization that we have. Like almost every holiday is like it fucking kills me because we have like okay we have like memorial day that's ah, it's for the people who were killed like we are appreciating those poor victims but that's what they were. They were victims and of course we don't talk about like why they were victimized. 36:44.78 mikebledsoe Yeah. 37:07.34 Max Shank Because people don't really like that when you go in? Oh dude I'll be fucking kicked right out of the cemetery if I say these guys died for nothing but the fucking ambitions of old politicians with nothing better to do than tell other people how to live their fucking lives. 37:07.66 mikebledsoe Of you start getting into that but people will get offended. 37:46.40 Max Shank And so people don't like people don't like that no way because you know to generalize Bobby Joe went into that Vietnam and he did his country proud and that is a way better belief to take with you than he died for nothing. 37:46.40 mikebledsoe Um, people don't like that. No no. 38:08.42 mikebledsoe Yeah, you know what? um. 38:25.90 Max Shank But some fuck fuckwit politicians who just think they know best right. 38:32.20 mikebledsoe Yeah I um, my girlfriend and I are out. We do things around town and Texas is a very patriotic place and I which means I get a lot of discounts because I'm a veteran and. 39:04.54 Max Shank The. 39:09.66 mikebledsoe I get a 5% discount on my guns at Cabels. Ah, it's i't I can't get a discount on guns anywhere. Ah yeah, but I get in free at play at parks and stuff and in Texas where other people are paying to get in anyways. So I get. 39:20.44 Max Shank That's pretty cool and. 39:46.30 mikebledsoe Hit with thank you for your service pretty frequently and and Ashley my fiancee she she knows how I feel about every you know about a lot of things she goes. What's it like what's it like to hear that because you know I always just say oh yeah, you're welcome. You know that's what my. 39:49.18 Max Shank If. 40:05.30 Max Shank Um, ah a threat. 40:24.30 mikebledsoe My my pleasure you know, whatever it is that comes to mind at the time you know whatever I'm just trying to make them feel good about them giving me a compliment or whatever. But and when I did join I did think I was going in to be of service to humanity that was. 40:29.28 Max Shank Ah, thank you. 40:42.14 Max Shank Right. 41:01.94 mikebledsoe Impression I was under but the yeah where I stand now is like yeah I don't feel proud I don't feel ashamed I kind of just I'm very neutral about it. It's I've dealt with the fact that I got duped and like. 41:19.78 Max Shank He no. 41:36.18 Max Shank I Guess you could call that neutral. Ah. 41:41.94 mikebledsoe Yeah I mean I got well I got duped and I've accepted it I'm at peace with it right? like we've all been duped. We've all been duped and you know what I'm I'm lucky because you know I did get some really great experiences out of that that made me a very resilient guy and. 41:52.52 Max Shank Ah, ah, okay, right. 42:08.80 Max Shank Yeah, and. 42:17.24 mikebledsoe You know there's There's a lot of benefits I got from it most mostly the discounts but the. 42:28.64 Max Shank I Just imagine if someone said take you for your service and he said yeah I was probably a mistake. Or or just like I wouldn't recommend I wouldn't recommend it. 42:46.66 mikebledsoe Ah, you know I'm I'm trying that out. Well, it's bad enough that people are going to hear this on the show. Ah, but yeah, it's like ah that's all we know. But yeah, it's um. 43:08.84 Max Shank Um, hey look it's not for everybody. It wasn't for you. That's all we know it wasn't for you. It wasn't for you. 43:24.40 mikebledsoe But what you're saying is accurate because the the way Well the well we can go back to the holidays. But when I look at when I look at um, the government and military service and all these things is when I started looking at the government is just there's a book called the Sovereign individual and in that book they talk about how. 43:28.98 Max Shank These holidays. 44:04.14 mikebledsoe Formation of government and how they were there to protect farmers from people who would come and take their shit and if they didn't hire them. They were gonna take their shit and if they did hire them. They're gonna take a percentage of their shit and so ah. Basically when you. 44:42.80 Max Shank Basically you got guys with the swords and you got guys with the hose right till in the field then you got a sword guy and you got a hoe guy I'm more of a hoe guy I think. 44:46.40 mikebledsoe Exactly and some and yeah, some so like in the beginning it was just like who who is ah who's got the most brute force and then over time they accumulated armor horses like a ah Knight in armor. Can take out like 20 people on foot. You know like the this is yeah this is this is it and so true that yeah, but but here's the thing is before the and but. 45:30.20 Max Shank This is grounded in reality too unless one of those guys on foot happens to have a really nice bow and arrow and then that guy's fucked speaking of projectiles. 46:00.98 mikebledsoe Before the invention of the rifle to become skilled to be able to afford the time and the money to be a great soldier. It was it was rare and so only a select few had been in the position to do so and so. 46:36.56 Max Shank Even ants do this. They divide up the labor into soldiers and the workers back to the ants again. 46:39.00 mikebledsoe You it. Yeah, yeah, and so the so the whole formation of the idea government has been basically the same it's it's identical to the Mob. You know you're. 47:13.84 Max Shank It's identical to any group. It's about specialization Ideally right. 47:17.42 mikebledsoe I Know if any group but like but any group that uses the threat of Force violence and coercion. So not every organization does that and so. 47:40.12 Max Shank Um, is there any group where everybody does the same thing I think it's always about specialization. 47:48.78 mikebledsoe It is about specialization but what I'm saying is what makes these organizations special is that they ah they rule by violence and a threat of violence coercion. These things that that's how they get people to comply. 48:25.26 Max Shank Um, without nonviolently with like words instead of Swords basically. 48:27.50 mikebledsoe With their rules. Well they use words. But if you disobey those words you will then meet you know. 48:46.80 Max Shank Well, that's leverage right? That's that's really, um, how control works because if you if you ah if you don't follow the words and they just have to sword everybody to death. It's.. It's like not very good for anybody like now all the farmers are now all the farmers are.. It's kind of like a strike.. Basically I mean all these all these parallels within the symbolism of language I I have this idea that words have evolved basically the same as anything else. 49:25.76 mikebledsoe It's not good for anybody. Yeah, so they got to use the there's ah. 50:01.92 Max Shank In Nature longer sharper Claws Stronger Armor Camouflage Decoy Venom you know people fucking hurt each other with words all the time and only sometimes do they hurt. 50:25.80 mikebledsoe And. 50:36.14 Max Shank Ah, people with actual like sticks or weapons or something like that and sometimes they turn them on themselves right? We we fucking think Shitty things about ourselves we put ourselves through these I mean ah I guess I'm a fitness guy so we put ourselves through these like ball bursting workouts. 50:37.36 mikebledsoe Yeah, they've gotten so good at can most of the time. 51:13.82 Max Shank That are only harming us because we're just like so desperate. Um for some pie in the sky vision that we have I mean it's crazy how much language causes harm and self-harm. But anyway my point is like it's too inefficient. To go fucking hit everybody with the sword. It's way more efficient to just threaten the sword. 51:54.80 mikebledsoe Yeah, the the the evolution has been that we use these words and so it was the words were simple and the sword was strong and then over time while the Swords gotten stronger. But the the words have become. People have gotten very clever lawyers are some of the most clever people on the planet ah politicians are basically they're just Lawyers. So These people are creating these words. Yeah, they create these words and you know, um, there are certain people. 52:40.40 Max Shank Oh yeah. 52:52.18 Max Shank Um, the word Warriors the word warriors. 53:10.96 mikebledsoe Who are there's a very small population of people who are pretty much I think you and I fall in this category kind of like yeah you know those are just words and you want me to do this but I'm not going to and then you have the majority of the population that are like you're going to defy those words and. 53:44.18 Max Shank Right. 53:46.84 mikebledsoe And they completely freak out and they don't know what to do? They think that you're a bad person because you're ignoring these words. Um that somebody else put together and in order to try to control you so. 54:07.22 Max Shank Well because otherwise like you are ruining their paradigm. You're destroying their sense of reality because they're like well I can't do that and I'm like actually there there are just consequences to everything you do you know that. 54:18.14 mikebledsoe Totally destroying it. 54:35.42 mikebledsoe Yeah, you can do anything you want. You can do a lot of things. 54:42.84 Max Shank That's it you could do whatever there are consequences like if you tie a noose around your neck whack off in the closet. There's a much higher chance that you will die from hanging. But there's also a decent chance. You'll have an orgasm that's like None or so of the usual 1 55:20.40 mikebledsoe There's otherwise to do that You hit me up on my private blog on on how to do that without choking yourself. But anyways. 55:22.40 Max Shank So. 55:32.68 Max Shank Fellas you hear that Mike is offering orgasm boosters free orgasm boosters. What kind of percentage can you offer increase 50% increase a 3 hold on. 55:40.64 mikebledsoe Free orgasm boosters at least 50% now now I would say out. No no like 300 I mean yeah and yeah, with with just common common things you can pick up at the store. 56:07.68 Max Shank Ah, 300% increase 56:19.18 Max Shank Like cocaine. Ah. 56:19.76 mikebledsoe Nothing you don't have to go see a drug dealer. But if you no, no, no like like over the counter things. But then um, yeah, over the counter and then um, you know if you want to get into the other I can guarantee like a None x but you know that's going to require some hard to get ahold of. 56:30.20 Max Shank Over the counter. 56:55.60 Max Shank Honestly I think ah I think I think this would be something that you you could probably do a one pager on this for our premium Inner Circle club. 56:57.88 mikebledsoe Substances. 57:20.56 mikebledsoe I Feel like this whole episode's going to be an inner Circle Club show. Ah you know this is the commercial This is this is actually it. This is this one. We're giving away for free. This is the one you get for free from now on the pre ship. This. 57:23.38 Max Shank Like I would be interested in like a little that's all it is This is just for the this is this is it. We're gonna air this and and to be fair, we might be Fucked. We might be fucked because this might get us. Ah. Extradited or what's the excommunicated because of all the stuff we've said. 58:01.30 mikebledsoe Well this is why I want everyone to go and get a ah podcasting 2.0 app on your phone instead of Spotify because Spotify itunes. They could just take us off anytime they want because some sjw employee gets pissed off. 58:24.12 Max Shank Oh my God can you imagine? Holy God I Think that's I think the pendulum is swinging back I think people are craving uncensored Oh I Love it. 58:36.96 mikebledsoe So ah. I think so I think so but not but not the employees of Apple and Spotify. They're gonna be the last ones you know and Twitter but I it will shake out it but we need. But. 59:00.98 Max Shank Yeah, we'll we'll see how it all shakes out I mean ah Seasons change Seasons change. 59:19.58 mikebledsoe Decentralization is what will force it and so using a podcasting 2.0 app is part of the decentralization movement. So I like ah podverse myself. So if you just go and download podverses. Our shit will never be taken off of that. But. 59:54.40 Max Shank Bu ya. 59:59.20 mikebledsoe But Spotify has taken down None I think over 70000 podcast episodes in the last year yeah based on the content. No now they remove certain content. They even pull down some of Rogan's content 01:00:12.90 Max Shank Whoa Really I thought they were cool. Not cool. Bummer I Do know that by the way if there was ever something that. Ah. 01:00:35.00 mikebledsoe But not all of it. 01:00:45.96 Max Shank Was valuable but let's be able to say words other this is a core value. This is a core value here. Okay folks this is this. It's rooted in reality look. It's fine talkytackytacky ever Blah Blah Blah blah. But as soon as someone comes in with the stick. 01:00:53.40 mikebledsoe Come on. Well this goes back to what you were just saying. 01:01:24.88 Max Shank You got to like fucking face that reality and so if we can't resolve our differences with words. There's only None choice left and that's physical violence I think everybody should be versed in physical and verbal violence. Not necessarily so they can be violent toward other people. But so they can recognize it number None and defend it number None 01:02:07.86 mikebledsoe Well I like that I like to Define violence as the person who initiates force so I would I would say ah be well versed in debate because ah or or diplomacy right? So like to me. 01:02:36.76 Max Shank Right. 01:02:43.20 mikebledsoe War is just an extension of Diplomacy You know we were like oh diplomacy failed I'm like no this is just we're still being diplomatic. It's just a very violent diplomacy and so the same thing with the words is you know we start off with disagreement. We're trying to work it out things escalate We can't. 01:03:06.64 Max Shank Interesting. 01:03:17.88 Max Shank Great. 01:03:20.60 mikebledsoe Find agreement in the words because people aren't You're right, People are not trained in the ability to listen to understand and then communicate the wall just goes up and you've talked about rhetorical fallacies before the wall goes up and then now it just becomes a mudsling contest. 01:03:56.66 Max Shank Um, yeah. 01:03:58.60 mikebledsoe That that will result if that doesn't get resolved in some way it will result in physical force. This is why the None amendment's important because if only yeah and and because if only 1 group of people has access to violence. 01:04:13.74 Max Shank The None and the second those are almost all that's important. But. 01:04:35.10 Max Shank Um, oof because then you go. 01:04:37.56 mikebledsoe Then then we're in big trouble which takes me back to the point I was making hang on the point I was making which is like the when I look at when I look at ah government. It's hard to tell the difference between government and the mom because they're basically saying give us. A certain amount of your profits give us a certain amount of your of your hard work and we'll make sure that your shop doesn't get burnt down. You know we'll make sure your kid doesn't get beat up in the alley and they're basically saying the mob is basically saying. Overtly, they're saying we'll protect you from other people. Yeah, covertly, they're saying pretty much if you don't pay us None of our thugs are going to come get you which is which is the same thing that happens with the Us government is they say. 01:05:50.12 Max Shank It's called a protection ring. It's called a protection ring. It's been around for a long time. 01:06:09.36 Max Shank Ah, right? yeah. 01:06:23.82 mikebledsoe We're going to protect you from all these outside guys and we got police officers stationed in there. We're gonna protect you as long as you. But if you if you don't give us a None of your life then we're actually gonna come fuck you up and so that's the price of the club. Yeah tough shit. There's like no way out. 01:06:26.48 Max Shank Move. 01:06:41.98 Max Shank Right? That's the price of the club and if you don't like it well tough shit This is the only club in town. It's the only club in town. It's like ah you know there is a thing about power companies. You know when you have a single. 01:07:03.56 mikebledsoe And so well hang on. So so so so when I started when I recognized this this extremely similar ah view of government and the mom. 01:07:16.98 Max Shank Go go ahead? yeah. 01:07:38.98 mikebledsoe And I just started looking at all these governments around the world as just mobs that are controlling different geographical locations by by which um are mainly dissected based on Language. So if the language changes that's where the border begins. When there's a different language because you can't control people anymore because they can't understand you and so ah government control happens and within the borders of language and then you basically just have you just have. 01:08:35.50 Max Shank K case that's http://dciendocappassosenorexplicka me and espanio poque non anddo. 01:08:50.98 mikebledsoe Exactly. So. So so when you start looking at the world as or the government as just mobsters that are ruling really large pieces of geography and they're all. You know, jocking for position. Everything makes a lot more sense like the Russia Ukraine thing makes way more sense if you just think about it as a couple of mobsters that are that are jocking for position and the United States has done a good job of like. United States has done an incredible job of being very strategic in the way that it's done things. It hasn't it hasn't necessarily ah won with brute force for instance with the Ukraine thing is if you think about mobsters are running Ukraine right now right. Because anyone who has a government is being There's a mob and so those mobsters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well the good the good mobsters of Ukraine are um, just you know the the us government is lending them. What None 01:10:50.92 Max Shank No, but those are the good mobs. We like them. They're the good mobs. 01:11:18.20 mikebledsoe Billion dollars a month or something like that that they're never going to be able to pay back all right? So if only someone would come tell me what to think? So so then ah. 01:11:22.22 Max Shank Oh my God I Wish someone would tell me who the good guys are and who the bad guys are if only someone would come and let me know what to believe about this. 01:11:56.32 mikebledsoe So then you got so the way I see it is the us government has done an incredible job at buying the people of Ukraine as slaves and so because they're under the control of the Ukraine mob the ukraine mob how are they going to pay back that money they can't pay back that money. So basically they're going to be in debt to the us and the Ukraine is the breadbasket of europe so they produce the the lion's share of the wheat and other things necessary for making a lot of food products and in Europe and so now. The way I see it is the us government. Everyone is everyone is going. You know? Yes for Ukraine I'm like I'm like the us government just enslaved the people of Ukraine and you cheered them along the whole way and is like yeah we are like you know and that is um, that's 0 comment on what. Putin's doing you know whatever you call him more criminal. Whatever the guy's not a good guy. The guy's not a good guy but but people miss that. 01:13:56.16 Max Shank It's it's about relationships. It's about relations. It's about relationships. It's about relationships and it's about trying to understand what the connection is between those relationships and in order to really get it. You got to reduce the number of parties down, you got to put the words like none and None out of your mind and just say what is the relationship between these different entities or individuals and what you're saying about the us specifically is. They recognize the power of both words and swords because words, okay, nothing scales better than words because it requires no material transfer. It requires only a transfer of pressure waves basically on some level and and. Transfer of ah it's just it scales way easier than actual bullets and actual swords and and if you have both then then you're like King of the castle. Basically so we have crazy weapons and we also have. 01:15:38.90 mikebledsoe Ah, especially with the internet and everything just repeats easily. 01:16:13.92 Max Shank Ah, lawyers and bankers and politicians that use words the same way that we're using Bullets and missiles and shit like that and we have we have ah stuff that's happening behind closed doors I mean Okay, let's talk about language again just for a second because. 01:16:25.28 mikebledsoe Totally. 01:16:50.54 Max Shank Want to talk about the word conspiracy conspiracy happening all the time people are meeting in secret to discuss plans all the time we would have to be totally naive if we don't think that's going on basically everywhere like every every group is meeting in secret. 01:17:24.88 mikebledsoe The Cia is ah is a series of conspiracies. 01:17:29.90 Max Shank We meet in secret we meet? yeah and of course they can't tell everybody everything I mean how fucking schizophrenic do you have to be your level 1 clearance your level 10 clearance I'm a level 10 cia wizard. So I know like 90% of the secrets but only 10% of this I mean it's. 01:17:42.24 mikebledsoe So it's a conspiracy. Yeah. 01:18:09.70 Max Shank It's Insane. So ah, kind of tying it back to how we use language and use ideas bringing it back to reality Once again, just doing something with material objects that exist somewhat. Independently of Language. You know how you interact with a tree or the ground of course you have the word tree and ground in your mind but your movement and your creative expression through physical materials. Even if you don't think you have a knack for it. It's very grounding experience. 01:19:37.32 mikebledsoe Back to physical materials. Yeah, well they? um well what's interesting is my friend Jesse Elder he he's been studying the law extensively the last couple years and um. 01:19:42.80 Max Shank Um, that that's what I tried to bring us on back because. 01:20:17.64 mikebledsoe Basically looking at like the foundation of law you know, not you know what are all these little laws that are floating around that are getting passed all the time and changing. But you know yeah, but like what is the the sole basis and we go back in history. What is law. 01:20:33.00 Max Shank To contract. It's It's just a contract that's it. 01:20:52.36 mikebledsoe You know how does it operate so he did that and if you can figure out the fundamental principles of how these things work a lot of things get real simple so he did that and one one of the it's what. 01:21:11.92 Max Shank It's conditional phrases right? I mean I'm not trying to diminish but isn't it like it's conditional. Phrases. It's consequences like the code of Hamurabi was a system of laws but they are very simple if you steal. A woman then you get your eye plucked out and you have to marry her some shit like that. Basically and if you're talking about arbitration which is a little different than law. Basically you are just dealing with an arbitrur like a judge who is deciding. 01:21:45.68 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 01:22:20.32 Max Shank Who's right when they present like the clay tablets or something like can you imagine being. Ah, you know an arbiter back then but that's what they would do so that guy gets to decide but you have it's just enforcing contracts I think and every every relationship you have. 01:22:22.72 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:22:43.74 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, that's what it comes down to. 01:22:59.30 Max Shank Because a contract is oh gosh. It's ah it's a projected relationship. How about that using the words that we've been thinking about so a contract is a a relationship projection or a relative projection between one or more. 01:23:17.86 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 01:23:31.28 mikebledsoe Yeah, you're gonna do these things I'm gonna do these things if we don't follow through then it breaks down. There's the consequences. 01:23:39.44 Max Shank Entities yeah, and it works with yourself too. It works with yourself too. You make a you make a to do list. Maybe you sign at the bottom so I'm going to do this by the end of today you made a contract with yourself. You break the contract but you're also the judge here and you go like what happened. You know should I should I go to jail should I be full of shame or something like that should I punish myself. Do I get 50 lashes? Yeah, um, but I think we do that. 01:24:15.46 mikebledsoe Should I punish myself emotional jail ah, ah so so jet so Jesse started digging digging into like the principles of law. And None of the results that I've seen in his life is. He's become extremely analog. Ah he is like he he sees the matrix I mean when you look at I mean the law is the matrix and so ah, everything that. 01:24:55.98 Max Shank Totally. Ah. 01:25:18.14 Max Shank It's a matrix. 01:25:20.20 mikebledsoe Yeah, it's a matrix I would I would say it's probably like based one of the base layers of the matrix and then um like the media sits on top of that. But um, he he's gone extremely analog like he's living. He's got twenty acres he's living out on it. He doesn't deal with crypto he. Ah, you know tries that work primarily in gold and silver and like getting he's getting very analog. He's using technology like he's installing a solar farm. He's doing. He's doing some things to harness technology but he's become very analog and. 01:26:28.14 Max Shank Right. 01:26:37.76 mikebledsoe What is valuable and so and what he values is analog and so in a world where right now so much of the value is digital and which is which is somewhat of a physical manifestation of something conceptual and so. 01:26:49.52 Max Shank So true. 01:27:14.22 mikebledsoe Because we're talking about Energy. Ah Bitcoin is just energy and because it requires energy from the sun whether it come in the form of solar oil. Whatever it is ah it it comes in the form of energy that's being exchanged so there is a physical component to it. But. Which is actually way more tangible than say the Us dollar which has ah which is primarily ruled by what whatever somebody thinks or a group of people think instead of being ruled by actual physical world laws and. 01:28:15.72 Max Shank Um, that well money is its own like ah shared. It's actually a conspiracy so money is a human conspiracy just like language. 01:28:33.40 mikebledsoe It's yeah well fiat currency would be yeah, say more. 01:28:53.50 Max Shank That's that's it money is a conspiracy just like language I mean the fact that. 01:28:55.70 mikebledsoe Some people some people understand I mean you're right? because there are very. There's a there is a handful of select people who make decisions in secret about the money supply. 01:29:23.52 Max Shank Oh I mean just like it's not ah like a like okay so steak is not a human conspiracy like a dog still understands. What steak is it might know it by a different name like maybe steak for a dog is like. 01:29:49.14 mikebledsoe Right. 01:29:58.00 Max Shank Wolf Af or something like that I don't I don't know exactly what it's like for a dog but like money is and language are purely human conspiracies like we made all this stuff up because it's useful so they're useful lies. Essentially words are useful symbols so that we can. 01:30:09.82 mikebledsoe I'll go ask my buddies dog. 01:30:35.78 Max Shank Project these ideas ah into ah interchangeable parts Basically and that's what we're looking for with money is it's the ultimate interchangeable part because it's like ah an I O you that everybody agrees on it's a. Ah, accepted anywhere right? So it's money's like God It's if you believe in it it it is ah infinite Power. It's total potential and it's such a useful tool. There's no I can't. 01:31:31.92 mikebledsoe Yeah. 01:31:49.52 Max Shank It's so difficult for me to envision a society where we didn't have a way to exchange goods modularly. You know people talk about the fungibility or non-fungibility of token. Sometimes the fact that a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar and I mean it did used to be backed by gold which was cool but let's not be too wistful over the glory days. But in any case. The fact that we have it and that we can change it and move it so quickly means that I can you know ah work under a bridge given hand jobs send it back to my scientist grandpa in Hungary and he can use that money. To build a nuclear fusion reactor or something like that right? That's that's incredible that you don't have to but based on my hungarian physicist ah grandfather I was thinking of him every time I gave a hand job under the bridge. 01:33:40.52 mikebledsoe That's based on a true story folks. 01:34:04.94 Max Shank I was just thinking this is going to be unlimited energy for everybody I'm not going to let you down pop pop anyway, ah, but but that's that's what I mean is like you you can turn hand jobs into cold fusion potentially and that is why money is cool. Ah, so we wouldn't have these computers and microphones the ubiquity of the cell phone like all this stuff was done because we were able to transfer this um potential of human action and it just it kind of reminds me of this funky idea I had. When I was none learning about like the coins and the cryptos and things like that and I thought it'd be cool to have something called like a handycoin that was ah just based off of the value that a person placed on like 1 hour of labor. 01:35:50.38 mikebledsoe I Thought you were gonna say hand jobs but handicoin and a yeah. 01:35:59.34 Max Shank No, not not not hand that would be even better. None coin equals one hj full stop. That's actually a better idea now that I think about anyway, but the whole idea was like you know you can put a posting on Craigslist or you can. Ah, go out to home depot and you can find like ah, a laborer who will do sometimes skilled sometimes unskilled. No no, no, no, but but but that's what that would be for is just for unskilled labor. Every hour is equal and so. 01:36:43.94 mikebledsoe Um, are you are you saying that every hour is equal in value. No no okay. 01:37:05.52 mikebledsoe Ah, so you create a caste system. 01:37:12.36 Max Shank The value of that coin the value of that coin would be related to what someone is willing to do for an hour like 1 hour of unskilled labor. Ah, but at least it's tied to like. 01:37:37.54 mikebledsoe Isn't that how just capitalism works. 01:37:50.30 Max Shank The floor of ah one of of labor per hour right? It's like it's like it sets the floor which it is a value. Yeah, but it's so it's different. It's only correlated to ah. 01:37:51.24 mikebledsoe So there's a minimum. 01:38:02.88 mikebledsoe Sounds like a minimum wage. 01:38:23.40 Max Shank Like someone actually doing real work I don't know like I said it's not a night. It's not an idea that I've taken over the finish line. Ah, but it's ah this idea that it needs to be tied to something and right now it's tied to our belief and that works. 01:38:32.00 mikebledsoe I'm not sure I'm following. 01:39:02.40 mikebledsoe Yeah I I think the problem that people have with money right now is that? Ah, there are a handful of people who are controlling how it flows so ah, not necessarily. 01:39:03.26 Max Shank Weirdly enough it. It's not great, but it's okay like if. 01:39:29.48 Max Shank Has that always been the case. 01:39:39.64 mikebledsoe Not not to this degree I would say that. Um, so for instance when when the dollar is tied to gold money. Well I'm I'm talking about primarily money so like um so on 1 hand you have. 01:39:52.24 Max Shank Are we talking about money or wealth or both and. 01:40:16.00 Max Shank Um, like not. 01:40:17.52 mikebledsoe And organization that decides. Ah how much the interest rates are going to be like what's what's the debt going to be worth and then you and then they also control the amount of money that's in the system. So those are like really big picture things. So so of when you're. 01:40:49.44 Max Shank Oh yeah, big time. 01:40:56.00 mikebledsoe When you're working with gold which you know all governments have inflated there even when it was gold. They did things like shave off the edges and you know there's ah until people figured it out and they lost faith in it. Yeah, they have so you can't fake it and so then um, so. 01:41:14.14 Max Shank That's why those coins have ridges right? That's why they put the ridges on the coins. Ah. 01:41:31.34 mikebledsoe The money supply and then the cost of debt is 2 major things that are that are employed big picture and then you have taxes so that I think the tax code is 176000 pages something like that. Ah, it might be a little bit maybe 76 maybe oh there. There's a. 01:41:56.40 Max Shank I think maybe only 76 but but but but None like you that should be simple. 01:42:09.52 mikebledsoe There's a ton of there's all, there's but there's basically all these rule the whole point in the tax code is to incentivize people under a certain type of behavior and it's it's. 01:42:32.34 Max Shank And hide and hide what's actually happening and create as much of a smokescreen as possible for what's actually going on. 01:42:43.48 mikebledsoe Yeah, there's they they want to they want to confuse like the majority of people need to be confused about what's going on because if the majority of people knew exactly what was going on there'd be riots in the streets. But the. 01:43:07.80 Max Shank We would sell a lot more guillotines if that were the case Guillotine sales. That's that's what I'm actually getting into right now you know pendulums and government swing I think we're like perfect time to invest in guillot in Guillotines I think ah. 01:43:28.34 mikebledsoe Well, how let's look at the tax code I got to do this search on the tax code. 01:43:44.46 Max Shank You know you can sell your ultimate Orgasm formula and then I'm going to sell guillotines for the coming revolutions. 01:43:53.44 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, we got figure I got to figure out how this tax code thing. Um all right. There's the myth of the 70000 page federal tax code. 01:44:10.78 Max Shank It's really long. 01:44:19.60 Max Shank It has to do with um like references to it because there are amendments to the tax code and there are cases that have modified how it's interpreted. 01:44:38.52 mikebledsoe So the tax code has nearly tripled is it ah the tax code has nearly tripled and linked over the last thirty years um 70000 is not true. The tax code was only 20 so so it's it's. It's like triple of the None pages. So I think it's anyways thirty years ago is 2600? Oh no, none the tax code was only about 20. It's so funny and this blog says it's only None pages long. Um, yeah, but the point so. 01:45:47.60 Max Shank Ah, it shouldn't even be 2600 words long fuckers. Let alone pages. 01:45:50.40 mikebledsoe So um, yeah, so the so the so you've got a small group of people controlling the supply of the money you got a small group of people controlling the ah cost of the debt and then you have a small I think between. Ah, the senate the congress and all the the the the top government I think is around None and something like None something people so None something people are controlling 350000000 people. 01:46:55.92 Max Shank It's leverage. 01:47:07.30 mikebledsoe With a 2600 page tax code that incentivizes certain types of purchases disincentivizes other types of purchases. Um it ah it does it does really incentivize investing in real estate which is interesting because you can. 01:47:21.92 Max Shank Right. 01:47:35.14 Max Shank Well let's also look at this because it's not ah like those politicians are only like fabricating these ideas in their own mind. They're having people come in and say like hey we're this ah business that does one ah 0 every month. 01:48:07.94 mikebledsoe These politicians don't write these laws. These laws are being brought to them. 01:48:14.22 Max Shank And and and right and like hey Joe blow politician um, you know I was thinking. Ah you know you could you could really help us out. Ah, but you know I don't want you to work too hard. So I I went I went ahead and prepared the law for you. 01:48:49.32 mikebledsoe Yeah, which the law the which the law is like 10000 pages long. There's no way who the fuck reads those things. No one reads that shit. 01:48:52.82 Max Shank I went ahead and had my lawyers prepare this law for you and I I left this spot at the it's about 10000 pages I sent a copy to all your colleagues already I put a place here for you to sign your name at the bottom and I think it's a really really good idea for you to do this. 01:49:27.48 mikebledsoe And and we'll we'll pay your son like $10000000 a year for advisory. 01:49:32.46 Max Shank And because like power. Oh dude that guy is that guy is fucking set but you know Hidden hidden in that fucking quagmire of verbal violence in that fucking law that's been written is. How um competition and free market is prevented right? It's not like going to be awesome for everybody. Ah, it's gone too far but it's just because we have set up the rules of the game. 01:50:24.98 mikebledsoe Yep. 01:50:46.98 Max Shank To allow for too much of ah human error. Basically. 01:50:49.88 mikebledsoe Yeah, and so this is where um so we have to believe in the money I'm talking about belief which means you got to trust it right? And so we're at a in my lifetime we're at a record breaking low of trust in. 01:51:10.16 Max Shank Yeah. 01:51:28.32 mikebledsoe Government or the record breaking low and trust in media I think that in since the emergence of crypto there has been a trickling of people in droves that don't trust the money that that trust ah 1 of the things that web 3 01:51:59.64 Max Shank A. 01:52:07.38 mikebledsoe Really ah has brought about is it requires less trust because you can't fuck with it like it doesn't matter how much somebody wants to change something. It's not humanly possible to change some of these rules and how these crypto. 01:52:46.54 Max Shank Question for you is web 3 basically trying to use blockchain technology to store web data and provide server. Ah for websites. 01:52:47.00 mikebledsoe Cryptos work. Yeah. 01:53:13.50 mikebledsoe Yeah, there's that's that's one that's so it's a ledger well blockchain is just a really advanced ledger system that's automatically updated in decentralized web 3 in blockchain everyone in the same. 01:53:23.66 Max Shank It's like decentralized web servers. 01:53:35.48 Max Shank No, but web 3 I'm asking. Okay, I'm okay. 01:53:51.80 mikebledsoe Yeah, the the way I understand it. It's it's just web 3 is kind of you say blockchain and people get a little confused and go web 3 and they go oh like you know web one was we can send information from computer to computer web two was we have html and everything's visually we have visual graphics and. And we can. There's clickable things and and then social media and then Web 3 is blockchain mother of all demos. 01:54:39.84 Max Shank You should see the mother look up the mother of all demos sometime it shows what it's fucking great I think it was in the 60 s we were able to do like ah word documents and video chat and all kinds of shit in like the 60 s. 01:55:14.74 mikebledsoe Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:55:19.48 Max Shank Called the mother of all demos um wild what was capable way back then and then that wasn't ubiquitous for people that wasn't common for people until forty years later something like that not nuts. 01:55:41.10 mikebledsoe Right? Yeah, there's that's it's fascinating. Um. 01:55:54.74 Max Shank So that's the leverage though is how fast we can communicate a message a lot of ah censorship speaking of like the None amendment kind of. 01:56:06.90 mikebledsoe Well, there's also you not just how fast can you communicate a message but can it actually get through the noise. How loud how loud is your message and how well received is it because there's there's a there's a level of skill that's involved in being heard. 01:56:21.14 Max Shank Yeah, well and. Absolutely no question I mean I think that's why stand-up comedy is one of those places where the rubber meets the road on free speech a little bit because if you're allowed to say anything as long as it's a joke. Then you can still at least get that message into people's minds without having ah it be controlled and that's ultimately what drives a population if if suddenly it was the law like so that's that's what's kind of interesting. You know I don't think it's good to have. Like a lot of power in the hands of a few people. It's back to leverage same thing as a hammer right? It's physical leverage in different ways. Um, but if they suddenly made it like the law to kill None puppy every week like let's just say that became the law people would not do that. 01:58:27.84 mikebledsoe Well, it's got to be Ah, it's got to be done in small bits I mean all right? So this may actually happen. Yeah this this may actually happen right? So they So there's the media's put out the yeah, the media has put out some notices that. 01:58:29.80 Max Shank Because the collective consciousness of whether that's okay or not. 01:58:44.64 Max Shank You're like talking Boiling Boiling Frog right? Yeah yeah, the puppy killing oh shit, you know what you're right? The puppy flew. 01:59:07.84 mikebledsoe You know some people are getting getting. Ah yeah, they're getting Well they're getting coronavirus they're It's like oh statistically we find that people who are around dogs more get coronavirus. Whatever. 01:59:17.52 Max Shank Copy flu. 01:59:27.40 Max Shank Oh God Oh don't don't even put this out. It's so easily could happen. You could get people to kill puppies as long as you said puppies increased the no fucking way. Wow. 01:59:35.98 mikebledsoe So so here's the thing there are cities in China where they've gone in and killed all the dogs. Yeah, and so it's already happened and so um, which. 02:00:04.80 Max Shank Heavy heavy. 02:00:12.90 mikebledsoe When we think about that happening in China we go. Yeah that's totally believable because they're under some weird you know they're they're under some like heavy mind control. But I think that people I think americans give themselves way too much credit on how ah how little. They they think they they're being exposed and are subject to way less propaganda I would say it's less propagandized in the United States like we're not as susceptible because there's so much competing information where there's not as much competition for information there. But the propaganda is real. 02:01:04.92 Max Shank Overt. It's just yeah, ah. 02:01:26.32 mikebledsoe And so all you gotta do? It's been proven in the last two years all you gotta do is make people think that they're gonna die if they don't do this thing and they'll fucking. Do it. They'll strap 3 masks on they'll put an experimental vaccine in their body and they'll they'll ah make statements like. 02:01:56.76 Max Shank Oh god we just got flagged. That's us we're done. He's in Texas go get him I was never here. Ah. 02:02:01.54 mikebledsoe We should throw people. We're done off Spotify. Ah I'm in Texas I'm in Texas good luck. So yeah, um. 02:02:34.34 Max Shank Oh my gosh. So it's all it really is it all comes down to force right? It all comes down to how much of an impact you can make with words or with stuff it all comes and it's leverage. 02:02:52.90 mikebledsoe Yeah, because with the words you can still like if if ah, a small group of people can convince the large group of people that I'm a bad guy. They don't even have to get their hands dirty and so they use mind control to create violence. 02:03:21.18 Max Shank Totally, you're separated from it. 02:03:32.34 mikebledsoe And that's another thing we've witnessed big time in the last two years is they don't have to fucking create violence. They'll all they got to do is leverage some media to get people really hot and bothered then put. 02:03:50.38 Max Shank Nobody wants to get their hands dirty. 02:04:08.20 mikebledsoe Certain Spokes holes out there to to tell people how they should think what they should think and next thing you know things are burning. Yeah. 02:04:18.56 Max Shank Hurt people hurt people right? hurt people hurt people. Ah and the more removed you are from the impact the easier it is like imagine if ah. Kind of like in game of thrones. The one who passes the sentence or the one who passes the sentence should carry it out like if you're gonna sentence a guide to death. Yeah, that was a stark thing. Yeah, well, it's cause it's like really warm weather and there's. 02:05:02.80 mikebledsoe Yeah I mean that that was ah and ah that was a stark thing as the the northerners believed in that but you know you go to the South a bunch of soft pussies. 02:05:32.40 Max Shank Ah titties and asses everywhere on the beach like I I don't blame them I get it like I I wouldn't be too like I wouldn't be too Stern with duty if the beach was like full of naked chicks and coconuts like what are we fighting for. 02:05:34.12 mikebledsoe Teddy's everywhere I I. 02:06:07.20 Max Shank There's food and titties everywhere. Ah but I think that idea of if you're going to be the one who passes the sentence you should carry it out the corollary or the inverse of that is if you can pass judgment. 02:06:06.20 mikebledsoe Ah, ah. 02:06:44.66 Max Shank And be totally removed from the action if you can tell a guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to take a drone to this other guy so that guy can drone this fucking stranger

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00:00.00 mikebledsoe Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're gonna be talking about order and chaos. You know I think that there's a place for both and society as a whole likes to swing really really hard and me as an individual I do the same thing max. Thanks for joining for another Monday as we discuss topics that seem highly abstract and somehow try to get it to become practical for the listeners. 00:28.90 Max Shank Yeah I think order and chaos could be the name of our show because it's really quite a chaotic ride I think it's an excellent train of thought that gets frequently derailed. But that's part of what makes it fun and interesting and not only do I think order and chaos are ah definitive of each other they define each other i. I think what you said is perfect. We we swing back and forth really hard from more order to more chaos and we try to get tighter control and then more freedom and ah you know more openness or more boundary setting and that back and forth ah can be. Can be really exciting and in societies actually None of the things that's really important about playing and especially wrestling roughhousing that sort of thing is understanding the line between fighting and play fighting and ah. Being able to introduce chaos in a safe environment because the whole purpose of society is to create order reduce chaos as much as possible so you need something to dose you. With chaos. So you don't become um a a sissy and sad. 04:01.40 mikebledsoe Yeah, that and it yeah said I mean the like for me creativity happens after things get shaken up I think about um, no structure is the structure forever. Um, we the human spirit desires for change because we also live in an environment. Ah, ah, ever present change and um, you know we got to if we want to have some stability. We do need to set up structures in society. We need to set up structures in our own life. But we also need to recognize when it's time to assess and reassess these things and I think creating those safe spaces like you're saying where we can't introduce chaos in small amounts or over a short period of time in ah and a confined space. Ah. Really allows us to not have to go through really big societal bits of chaos which I think we're experiencing right now. There's when I think about rites of passage for young men that has been. Ah, regularly conducted over Millennia and it hasn't really happened in american society in the last few generations and so nature comes along and says hey um. Noticed that you guys haven't introduced any of this planned chaos. Ah you know a rite of passage for a man usually involves being out of control and and being needing to submit to the universe and. And usually facing death in some way or the acknowledgement of death and it can feel It's a big pattern interrupt and pattern interrupts tend to be a little chaotic in nature and when a society or an individual. Has been comfortable for too long in their order then nature is going to come along and shake it up because everything's always changing and we may be fighting to keep it the same but at some point the environment's going to break the the individual or the culture. 08:24.35 Max Shank Yes, and you also sacrifice some of the excitement of life if you imagine someone who was born in a castle isolated from most of the world. There's going to be None of order. None exposure to chaos and they may live their whole life in that environment and then have a child of their own that lives in that environment but eventually ah just like the seasons change and ah different. Creatures Rise up and overcome in different parts of the ecosystem. Ah the people in power never stay up there for long and the more you try to create order the more fragile that individual becomes because they're not dosed. With that chaos and that stimulus because our bodies and minds are always adapting via the said principle. So We're always adjusting to what's going on. So if you have no exposure to Chaos. You will be much more fragile. Ah. 10:54.40 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 10:50.13 Max Shank By by definition. 11:18.74 mikebledsoe Yeah I'm listening to a book by Ray Dalio right now I think it's called the rise of the rise of nation rise and fall of nations or something like that and he he he's talking about the 5 cycles through a society and. 11:10.69 Max Shank M. 11:24.51 Max Shank Ah. 11:58.14 mikebledsoe You know if you've read the fourth turning they they identify None cycles. He identifies 5 and these cycles last about 100 years or the the cycles last about 2025 years and there's 4 or 5 of them depending on which expert you ask? and basically what happens is it. Ah, you the society falls into ah each generation becomes more and more chaotic until it's unbearable and that everyone who's like and it usually ends in civil war and external war and then everybody says. Fuck it. We need. We need more order. You know the the economics are broken where everyone's fighting with each other It's it's highly disordered and then what you end up with is a whole yeah a whole generation comes comes along and is like starving for it. So they. 13:04.10 Max Shank The big prick comes in. 13:19.11 Max Shank Yeah, one and it's ah. 13:52.30 mikebledsoe They're wanting I mean that that's basically how Hitler got the power right? Germany was experiencing an incredible amount of chaos and this guy says you know what? if you just do what I say then things will be better and and they were for a while. There's there's there's videos of like. 13:33.19 Max Shank Exactly. 13:52.97 Max Shank And it's frightening. 14:31.72 mikebledsoe The the population gathering and arenas and exercising together. They were like very lockstep and everything was really good for a short period of time until the 1 person who was in charge decided to fucking go nuts and one of the thing. 14:34.17 Max Shank Right? Where there's there's like a line where people are like you know we're really glad that this ah this dick really like got things under control. You know it was a little too chaotic I felt afraid there was pillaging and rioting and then that dictator. Crosses the line and everyone's like whoa, not like that and then and then it goes back to you know, just that did that to that to da today. 15:47.14 mikebledsoe Um, well the the danger is is when you're when you're in ah and a highly ordered society like that the the amount of thinking by the individual is reduced because they don't have to make as many choices and so. They're less likely.. There's that slippery slope they're less likely to catch poor judgment from the top because it's been so good and just one value judgment at a time and next thing you know you're just killing a bunch of people. 16:15.69 Max Shank Yo absolutely and you you can understand why that would attract people I remember watching this series. Excellent series. The dictator's playbook. The episode on Mussolini he's you know, given a speech from some balcony and he goes None italy None decision and everyone goes. Yeah, they are. 17:51.80 mikebledsoe Yeah. 17:24.61 Max Shank Onboard They want a so bad like None maybe hundreds. It's so many people and they were so excited that he's like look I will call the shots. You guys don't want to trouble yourselves with these minor details I will take care of everything and. If you've had a good lady or significant other in your life having someone make decisions for you effectively in ah is amazing like there are certain things like some. You have this comparative advantage where someone else now is responsible for stocking the kitchen stocking the bathrooms getting this taken care of like you know you have that division of management basically and it feels amazing. Like if you get the right person to make your decisions you are on Easy Street. It's just ah, absolute power right. 19:55.50 mikebledsoe Yeah, well I think I think the the happy medium with that because I agree is is you know when you have for instance in the United States you have if you had None person if we had a dictatorship you have None person making the. Decision for 350000000 people. It's not possible for the human mind to be able to grasp the actual impact of the decision on on the individuals and this makes me think about Dunbar's number you know was a. 20:42.37 Max Shank Oh. 21:10.94 mikebledsoe Around None is about as many people as 1 person can keep up with in relationship after that you know people all kind of start looking the same. You don't make as much eye contact. You're not going to remember their names. You're you're not in community and this is why a lot of churches. 21:07.45 Max Shank Oh. 21:49.94 mikebledsoe What they do is they break up after they get to about 150 members and then another church will open up. Ah yeah, and so these like that most churches do that. But in some churches become megachurches and have 10000 members or something like that. 21:37.77 Max Shank It's like setting up little franchises with limits. 21:56.53 Max Shank Yeah. 22:28.92 mikebledsoe And that requires a higher level of leadership and hierarchy hierarchy has to be built into the system in order for that to happen. So when there's and the same thing for Crossfit Gyms all these crossfit gyms sprung up a decade ago and we all watched it happen. It. 22:10.19 Max Shank Right. 23:05.62 mikebledsoe It was a very community driven thing and when it got about 150 members 1 member goes I could do this better. They go open another gym and then they pull some of the gym members away and it's it's just like church and. 22:53.27 Max Shank Ah, crossfits are like church well said I agree there are a lot of similarities there I'm on board. 23:41.28 mikebledsoe Ah, yeah, there's a lot of similarities. Yeah, but I think it's a really great demonstration of Dumbbar's number and that the person the person that I'm gonna trust to help. 23:29.31 Max Shank O. 24:13.36 mikebledsoe So make decisions for me right? There's somebody on my team and my company my girlfriend my close group of friends. You know, somebody's organizing a ah ah week long vacation I don't even ask me any questions. They just tell me how much money to throw in the pot and then I show up I'm okay with that. But when we start dealing with people I've never met before and have never met me and now they're making decisions on my behalf I think that becomes problematic. 24:31.63 Max Shank Well, yeah I mean that's that's trust right there I mean who who you choose to trust is a really important choice choosing the right doctor instead of the wrong doctor. Choosing the right trainer instead of the wrong trainer right? Coach instead of the wrong coach and it's not that there it was an absolute good and an absolute bad.. It's just whether or not the resultant partnership or collaboration is gonna be constructive or not because. Some people respond really well to ah stick-based motivation and competitiveness and some people respond way better to carrot-based motivation and creativity and Non-competitiveness. So just finding the right? um. Partnership there like who do you trust with that area of your life is massive. 26:59.62 mikebledsoe Yeah, and going into trust I think one of the reasons we're we're in a massive amount of chaos in our society right now is because there is a lack of trust you know nobody like like the trust of the media is an all time low. 26:43.99 Max Shank Um, well yeah. 27:37.62 mikebledsoe Politicians is an all time low you you ask the average american and they'll just be like yeah the the news and the the politicians are all full of shit. You know there's probably twenty thirty percent think it's still good. But. 27:25.71 Max Shank Which I think is which I think is good I think ah like a skeptical society will actually come up with better solutions but trust saves Calories. Ah the whole Concept. Of a group is built on trust the the whole the whole thing is trust based ah fiat currency all these different things you're trusting that the person in charge is going to do. What's best for You. You're trusting that. Um. You know if you help out with the hunt that you're going to get some of the bounty from that hunt and that we're all going to be part of this unit. We're going to look out for each other.. It's like you scratch my back I'll scratch yours and having those relationships. Is the most powerful thing there is like I think of one of the best survival tools as a radical Rolodex So Just having the right array of people that you can call experts in different fields. But more importantly people that you trust to give you. Real solid Answer. So our whole response to bringing order into chaos bringing order out of chaos is based on faith or Trust. Ah, even if you take it from a religious standpoint. You are putting your faith or trust in a supreme being that we cannot see so it's all it's all trust you could say that? yeah. 31:12.48 mikebledsoe Know or or you could say that that supreme being is everything and everywhere and you see it all the time. But yeah, that's what I say. Ah. 31:13.51 Max Shank I'm pretty sure God is a butterfly. It's the butterfly God Yeah, the other all the other ones are not true I mean I'm pretty religious but it's definitely the butterfly god. 31:45.94 mikebledsoe The Butterfly god. 32:04.78 mikebledsoe There you go. So I I think I think back to like personal experiences with order and chaos and I watch I look at my own life and I watch my own self I'm one of those people that the pendulum swings pretty hard. I Think for some people the pendulum kind of hangs out in the middle for me. It's I go really deep into chaos and then really deep into order and ah, there's not a lot of time spent in the middle. But for me I think that helps with ah. 32:39.39 Max Shank Go. 33:23.50 mikebledsoe More progress is it's definitely not the less least painful way of going about it. But I find it's not for everybody but when I'm but everyone does experience that everyone goes to these cycles of order and chaos and the when I go into. 33:06.10 Max Shank It's not for everybody. 33:59.68 mikebledsoe Times of order what I see is a destruction of the structures. Ah that I had set up in my life previously. Whatever rituals or routines that I had previously were swept away So a really good example of this is I went I sold all my things. 33:32.25 Max Shank Length. 34:39.80 mikebledsoe Got down to two bags and went nomadic for a few years I really didn't have much of anything I left my books with some friends. Yeah yeah, dude I I did some crazy shit Um, during that time it was it. 34:20.60 Max Shank Speaking of a rite of passage right? feels like a rite of passage. 35:15.32 mikebledsoe I destroyed everything like I I left the business I had spent years building I ended up getting divorced I was traveling didn't have a home the level of novelty that was always present was so high that getting making progress on any None thing was. Was close to impossible including taking care of my own health and but it was a really necessary time for me to reestablish a new structure so I needed to I desired a. 35:29.75 Max Shank A. 36:26.78 mikebledsoe New structure so much that I had to I had to really flatten the building I had to rebuild some people are just renovating their house all the time I needed to it was a teardown say my life is a Teardown. Let's just go back down to the slab. Let's go down to the slab and then rethink the floor plan. 36:11.45 Max Shank Ah. 37:05.66 mikebledsoe And everything so the I think I think the reason yeah I think the reason people don't do that is because well when you've been living under 1 structure your whole life going back to the and rebuilding new floor plan. You have no idea what to do so there's there's the lack of. 36:39.21 Max Shank Takes a lot more time to do that. Also. 37:43.52 mikebledsoe Knowledge that can be scary for people to do that demolition plan and then the the knowing that man I I spent say None building this one house and now I'm just going to completely demolish it and start over I know that what I build next is going to be so much better. But. 37:35.91 Max Shank Her. 38:23.36 mikebledsoe That's a lot of work. 37:56.33 Max Shank And absolutely and it's even ah, depending on. Ah how you're wired. It's more like choosing which limb to cut off because it's a part of you is like you're. 38:54.38 mikebledsoe Yeah. 38:30.73 Max Shank Your identity is wrapped up into whatever it is you have going on this marriage this business this habit this thing over here to like strip those away and start coming to the I I think. Crazy shocking realization that most of your like baggage and Bullshit was just thoughtlessly inherited just thoughtlessly and you you weren't like trying to inherit it. It was just Monkey See Monkey Do Bing Bam boom. 39:58.54 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 39:48.63 Max Shank And you're like now I'm this and you get wrapped up into like I'm this and this is good cause I'm good and that's what I'm trying to say all the time. So why would you want to let that go in exchange for something that is unknown right? because that's what really scares people is like I'll take this from. 40:44.56 mikebledsoe Yeah, and. 40:26.73 Max Shank Familiar pain to the unknown that is like I don't know if it's a devil's bargain or a fool's bargain but it doesn't sound like a good deal and yet that's what most of us make is we'll take the familiar pain I'll take familiar pain again. Thank you compared to the unknown. 41:28.26 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, there's um I think in the landmark education they call it the winning strategy. So it's it's a strategy that you learn at a young age where you go Oh if I behave like this. 41:03.49 Max Shank Ah, no yeah. 41:17.77 Max Shank Oh. 41:29.70 Max Shank Um, ah yeah. 42:04.72 mikebledsoe Then this happens or I get to avoid this by being like this I get to you know my dad got mad at me 1 time for doing this. You know I'll never do anything that resembles that ever again and now you become now that that becomes part of who you are and forms the personality and it becomes a winning strategy and. 41:39.89 Max Shank Totally. 42:15.71 Max Shank Oh man. 42:44.80 mikebledsoe And you end up and you get the reward at a young age and then you start collecting evidence for that being a winning strategy. Yeah, you're like oh and you're unable to see where it's not working because it's the only thing that's present. So this is what creates the blind spots. 42:27.79 Max Shank Um, it's like heroin. Oh my god. 42:45.71 Max Shank Man. 43:23.54 mikebledsoe And the the winning strategy is something that is very difficult to let go because it is usually very responsible for a lot of success in your life like somebody may their winning strategy may be shit talking themselves and that's and they overcome it like the beside Navy Seal's name. 43:21.95 Max Shank Yeah. 44:01.38 mikebledsoe Who are ah David Goggins yeah I mean he's he's highly accomplished but he seems miserable as fuck and so he he seems like it is like like he's a perfect example. David Goggins is a perfect example of somebody who. 43:36.69 Max Shank Goggins. Yeah. 44:41.32 mikebledsoe Has a winning strategy. It's getting him some type of reward. But it's costing him so much in his life that he's completely unaware of and doesn't he doesn't value it because he hasn't touched it yet and yet I've met I mean I went through this myself I went from becoming successful. 44:37.30 Max Shank When. 45:16.80 mikebledsoe Shit talking myself and what I was trying to avoid versus you know, ah talking to myself like I was a how would I talk to a None ar old. Well, that's probably how I should talk to myself and so anyways going back to the the people are afraid to give up that. Winning strategy because they're afraid that if they let go of that piece that that piece of their identity. They're not going to be good at something anymore and being good at something is what's earned them. Love. 45:46.51 Max Shank Oh my God It's like a tool. It's It's like you're setting down your sword before you waltz into the Dragons Den It's like when I was a kid I learned about lying now. Okay, lying is a strategy. 46:30.44 mikebledsoe Yeah. 46:24.11 Max Shank That has almost no limits to it in terms of what you can get for Yourself. You can get out of trouble instantly so I was lying all the time growing up as soon as I was able to get away with it I mean what's a better rush than that and there are all kinds of behaviors like that. That they work so you just keep doing them. 47:34.92 mikebledsoe Um, yeah, yeah, they work and then until they don't right? and this is this is where you know, um when we did when in psychology when when we look at like stages of development and. 47:19.29 Max Shank Until they don't. 48:13.72 mikebledsoe What ends up happening is the the things that that move you into one stage of development will end up being the things that hold you back from the next and in fact, when if you look at say the the model of spiral dynamics for psychology and and human development is you're actually moving from. Um. 47:59.71 Max Shank A. 48:52.36 mikebledsoe More of an eye oriented to a we oriented but there's also a bit of chaos and order on either side of that as well. So it's more of a spiral so you got we and I so some stages are more we oriented some stages more eye oriented but then it's it's not ah, it's not a straight line back and forth. It's ah it's a spiral. 48:40.75 Max Shank Ah. 49:29.10 mikebledsoe And in between the eye and the we is is chaos and when you're making the transition and then you've got to bring the order back and so for people to want that chaos in their life. They usually have to be really unhappy with the way something's going on in their life. People when I think about this I think about ah people that have dysfunctional patterns of behavior and a lot of people I think think about oh I have anxiety or I have like some type of system a symptom that might show up in the Dsm um, Dsm whatever it is the. Psychology playbook of symptoms and diagnoses and they they think oh I've got this I'm suffering from this thing and that's the dysfunction. But it's not the best way to find dys function in your life is to just to see what's not working. What what do you desire to be different in your life but you can't seem to get there that to me that demonstrates that there's some type of dysfunction and usually people believe that there's nothing they can do about it. But once they get a hint. And they're just fucking sick and tired of this thing being true in their life. You're like you know I'm gonna do something about it fuck it and then they start digging deep and there's a lot of work to be done there but that that itself becomes chaotic because as you start making changes in your life. You basically have to start behaving differently for everyone else in your life. And they do not like that because they expect you to behave a certain way and that that creates relational chaos. 52:14.97 Max Shank I Think of it in a very basic way which is you have momentum being a certain way and the easiest thing to do is just continue with that Momentum. That's the most effortless thing you can do. So your pain or discomfort needs to be proportional to the adjustment of your trajectory like you need to be dissatisfied or uncomfortable enough to overcome the momentum of living a certain way. And it's not until that happens that a person takes action. Otherwise why would they? it's pure law of least Action. We're going to do the minimum we can unless ah otherwise authorized from a higher order kind of function. And even that is going to be based on a ah big picture discomfort um with just letting things flow as they may. It's like ah I'm uncomfortable not doing this thing. It's it's too painful to not. Go to Mars anymore. It's too painful to not get a divorce anymore. It's too painful to not start a business anymore. Whatever it is. There's like it's different for everybody different pain threshold for different pain catalyst. 55:40.30 mikebledsoe Everyone's got different rock bottom. Yeah, and that makes me think about our concept I I know I didn't create it. But um, the the feather I don't know where it came from the feather the break the Mac truck and if have I told you about this yet. 55:46.10 Max Shank The feather the brick and the Mac truck. No no I told you this but why don't you go ahead and share it with everybody. 56:28.20 mikebledsoe Are you. 56:34.76 mikebledsoe Pretty out did I hear I didn't hear from you did you or did you are you the originator. 56:15.21 Max Shank Go ahead. Just let let them know what it is. It's fine. Go ahead. 56:55.98 mikebledsoe Um, so yeah, the the the feather the Breakke the mack truck. You always get the message very lightly in the beginning and most people ignore it then it comes a little harder and then it's a fucking mack truck and it runs you over. 56:51.95 Max Shank Here. A e. 57:31.96 mikebledsoe And think that the skill is learning to listen for feathers and so it's a it's a it's a it's about being more sensitive. Yeah. 57:23.75 Max Shank Right? But you don't want to get startled every time you feel the wind either right? when there's nothing there. Yeah, you didn't get that for me for me. It's always been the wind the feather the brick and the Mac truck. 58:04.28 mikebledsoe No, you gotta be you gotta be listening to the right thing. 58:23.54 mikebledsoe The wind the feather oh shit oh shit, did you get it from somebody. Are you reading the same person or did you are you really an originator. Do you even know. 58:12.97 Max Shank Now I just I just made the whole thing up I never heard of it until just now. But I thought it would be fun to ah, just throw that Monkey Wrench in there because because see for me. Ah I think. 59:01.42 mikebledsoe Ah, the wind the fact. Okay, we'll throw in the wind now now we've got 4 levels. 58:52.97 Max Shank It's it's like ah a hypochondriac. The hypochondriac is thinking. Everything is some health disaster and really they were just constipated or something like that and I think the line between Prudence and paranoia is a truly fascinating one. 59:33.18 mikebledsoe Yeah, um. 59:31.55 Max Shank Because everybody has a different idea of what is reasonable preparedness and responsibility like the ability to respond or not so it's It's really the same thing like what's the line between prudence and having like a very deep awareness. 01:00:11.44 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah. 01:00:09.93 Max Shank Of what's going on around you and responding to the slightest stimulus so being a little I don't know hypersensitive versus like hyposensitive. It's ah it's an interesting thing. 01:01:04.60 mikebledsoe Yeah. 01:00:41.87 Max Shank So so like to kind of bring us back to that concept of the feather the brick and the Mac truck that what you're saying is change is or or like life. Let's say is giving you signals. 01:01:43.28 mikebledsoe M. 01:01:19.51 Max Shank And if you pay attention to the signal when it's really light. It's not going to cause you much harm. But if you if you wait the feather becomes a brick becomes a mac truck when it eventually just absolutely wrecks you. 01:01:57.20 mikebledsoe Right. 01:02:13.12 mikebledsoe Yeah, becomes more painful but also the amount of change that you're gonna have to make is probably more drastic so it's a double whammy you got extra pain and and additional work to do like I think about say somebody who is a. 01:01:56.33 Max Shank Um, yeah. 01:02:52.68 mikebledsoe A meth at it. You know if they're one weekend and they notice like oh I'm not getting good sleep I'm Jittery I you know I'm not paying attention at work or whatever and they and they go you know what? I've you know I'm gonna check myself into a clinic and I'm gonna kick this thing but then you got the person who's. 01:02:25.25 Max Shank Ah. 01:02:38.41 Max Shank For her. 01:03:31.22 mikebledsoe 10 years in you know they're missing their teeth like for them to be able to get their life back on track and get a job and all that is going to be monumentally more difficult. 01:03:25.91 Max Shank Right? So going past the point of no return basically like how how hard it is. yeah yeah I mean David Goggins is a ah great example of ah. 01:04:07.88 mikebledsoe Yeah, there's a point you cross where you never getting back? Yeah yeah. 01:04:05.55 Max Shank Someone who has just made such an impression on so many people I think you know he he just flipped total extremes right? Big fat guy boom now I'm a Navy seal running millions of miles. Oh my foot's broken. 01:04:55.40 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 01:04:45.43 Max Shank Who Cares stay hard and I think that now that Persona has gotten him speaking of winning strategies. So now even if he did say you know what I think a more gentle form of exercise is really the right choice for most people because. You know, Actually you're going to harm yourself long term by just running through these injuries. Ah, he almost can't do that now because he has got this winning strategy as this character and I think he. 01:05:55.24 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. Well, you know. 01:05:59.77 Max Shank Wants to be that character for himself and for everybody else I think he's got to be thinking. Wow This is an amazing thing that I am doing here and I'm this guy for myself and for these other folks. 01:06:50.50 mikebledsoe Yeah I think a lot of people are attracted to it because they yeah they're they're attracted to it and they want to do it. They want to be like it. But I think it's a it's. 01:06:37.95 Max Shank Superhero shit. Of course it's attractive. 01:07:27.40 mikebledsoe It's immature in a lot of ways you know there's there's somebody who I saw go through a transformation which was a gary banynerchuk and I don't know if he shifted I Never really heard him say hey I had a realization I'm changing the way that I'm speaking now. 01:07:14.71 Max Shank He. 01:08:05.50 mikebledsoe But I watched him shift over like a 5 year period of hustling rind. You know, get out of your mouth and maybe that his audience matured and he needed to shift his his message. 01:07:47.10 Max Shank Ah. 01:08:00.99 Max Shank He. 01:08:33.64 mikebledsoe But it became more of like hey let's work smarter not harder like be kind to yourself all these things Gary Vaynerchuk I mean if you go back and watch videos from ten years ago and him trying to motivate a crowd. He's telling him to like you know, buck up, you know quit being a little bitch and now he's. 01:08:31.53 Max Shank In. 01:09:09.56 mikebledsoe He's found a little more kindness in in his approach. So I think there's a that's something that was working for him but he also was able to to mature beyond that hopefully David Goggins experiences the same thing I mean for his sake because I mean if you got to keep that persona on. 01:08:47.84 Max Shank Right. 01:09:47.38 mikebledsoe For the rest of your life. It's just hard to. 01:09:21.90 Max Shank But maybe that feels like good for him. Maybe that's that's exactly what he's looking for he he won't be happy unless there's a ah, big physical challenge and you know who can imagine what it's like to live that guy's life. 01:10:22.44 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah, who knows and there's a place for everybody right? like there's a reason that he's so prolific right now is because there are a lot of soft people that need to hear that message. They're probably sick and tired of being soft or like you know what I'm I'm fat too. 01:09:57.85 Max Shank Is what I say. Ah. 01:10:21.19 Max Shank Yes. 01:11:00.82 mikebledsoe And I don't know what to do about this so you know what? like and I mean I am of the opinion that whatever, whatever the fuck gets you started go but my encouragement is it's never the whole thing get gets you started on being healthier. 01:10:33.47 Max Shank Right. 01:10:55.17 Max Shank Whatever gets you started on anything. Ah. 01:11:40.46 mikebledsoe But you know it got fat shamed Now you're losing weight. Okay, but here's the thing is take it further yeah like take it get up take it further. You know I think people a lot of times. It's It's like. 01:11:22.69 Max Shank You got fat shamed you got fat shamed. 01:12:15.30 mikebledsoe The reason you're fat is not because it's not necessarily because you're not exercising enough or you didn't You're not I mean these are the the behaviors you're not exercising enough and you're and you're eating like shit but like there's an entire lifestyle that goes behind this that that needs to shift that doesn't need to be. Maniacal about food and exercise. 01:12:35.29 Max Shank It's literally just using food as pleasure more than your activity will allow and the reason we do things like that is because we feel like there's something missing and we want to change our state salty sweet fatty cheesy bits. Will will pretty much resolve that immediately. It's not super long lasting but you know Obesity is just a drug addiction that has a really easy to see physical manifestation to it. 01:14:15.22 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:13:47.35 Max Shank Right. Ah, it's It's like a lot of people are addicted to their phones but it doesn't make you £40 heavier. Oh you're you're addicted to your phone but this other person is addicted to ah like hostess cupcakes. That's we're not getting sponsored by them but just because. 01:14:55.26 mikebledsoe Not yet max not yet. 01:14:30.53 Max Shank Just because they're addicted to just God I Hope so sponsored by Twinkie. Ah, but yeah, if someone's addicted to hostess cupcakes instead of the telephone they get fat but it's you're still just. Pulling a pleasure lever to distract from being here and now basically right. 01:15:46.26 mikebledsoe Yeah, yeah I Um, definitely use food as a little bit of entertainment and but you know what I've I've figured out how to use my entertainment food. Like I can get really entertained by my food without it being just outlandishly terrible and that I think that's ah, that's a good like like. For instance I eat like ah, a keto ice cream that doesn't have It's like the cleanest one I could find mammoth It's mostly just fat. With a tiny bit of sweetener supposed to just cream and by the way I mean just eating frozen cream by itself is so good. Yeah, and then and then I put put strawberries on it I put strawberries on it and then I put. 01:16:35.10 Max Shank Don't don't eat that bad sugar. Don't eat that bad sugar fat Only sugar is bad for you. Don't eat sugar Listen there's a killer out there. It's sugar. 01:17:28.34 mikebledsoe Raw honey on it. Yeah yeah, and then that'll usually beat whatever fucking dessert that's sitting on the shelf somewhere or even at a restaurant like it's actually tastier. 01:17:00.87 Max Shank Um, very fancy. 01:17:20.81 Max Shank Well, you know that's great that you have found a strategy that that works for you. Um, for for your mouth pleasure. Although. 01:18:03.82 mikebledsoe Um, yeah I know it's not your your morning cheesecake that you like to start your day with. 01:17:54.75 Max Shank I Do like to start with a cheesecake and mocha in the morning if the opportunity arises I'm definitely going to take it. Absolutely. 01:18:46.22 mikebledsoe Ah, well ordering Chaos I. 01:18:20.35 Max Shank So with the with the food is it about the mouth pleasure like the the flavor the chewing the swallowing the whole thing I mean that's what helped me like get a handle on the the food addiction I mean it's all good right. Is it that I like the flavor while I'm chewing. Is it like some deeper primal thing where I I just feel good that I'm putting stuff in my belly like there's this primal desire. That's like yeah food goes in this tube this way and then that's a good thing. 01:19:52.64 mikebledsoe Yeah, well I think I think for me it um like I'm a low appetite person. So yeah, yeah. 01:19:39.73 Max Shank How nice someone the other day said to me he goes. Ah I've been trying he was at he was at our gym he goes I've been trying to eat more and the idea of someone who had to try to eat more. 01:20:31.44 mikebledsoe You know? okay. 01:20:17.41 Max Shank Was so foreign to me ah eating more is my absolute default. Ah the concept of eating less food than I need or even just the right amount that I need is insane like every time I'm eating food I Want more. I Want hometown Buffet I want all you can eat sushi I Want a gigantic porter house with mashed potatoes. 01:21:34.54 mikebledsoe Yeah I think I think what may be different between you and I is I've been obsessing over the nutrient density of my food since I was about 14 So it's um. 01:21:28.17 Max Shank A. 01:22:06.66 mikebledsoe Like yeah I'm in this constant search for the highest quality of what I'm what I'm eating now Super dens. It's a superfood and so the yeah. 01:21:46.59 Max Shank That's why I just eat bullying cubes. 01:22:03.33 Max Shank I Think we should try to make that a thing super concentrated beef essence. 01:22:45.88 mikebledsoe Well, it's kind of like kale kale was like being sold as ah like a garnish for these buffets at Wendy's or whatever for for almost nothing and then it was listed as a super food. It was marketed properly and then ah. 01:22:34.83 Max Shank Ah. 01:23:20.12 mikebledsoe The fucking price of it skyrocket. We can do the same thing for Bullyon Cubes I think is somehow you know hate. It's. 01:23:01.79 Max Shank That would be such an exciting thing to get like all these high level athletes just snacking on bullion cubes. Everyone starts carrying around a little beef pouch salty. Yeah. 01:23:43.38 mikebledsoe Yeah I think it's a good hydration. It's more like a hydration tool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but ah yeah I think for me like I've always all I'm like this this quality freak about food and be and like I don't want it. 01:23:46.70 Max Shank Here. 01:24:21.96 mikebledsoe I could eat like a footlong Subway Club sandwich like I could do that like don't get me wrong I could do it but but it just it just doesn't like um, there's something about it I Just don't I don't feel satisfied in the same way and so. 01:23:59.59 Max Shank That sounds good I like a good submarine sandwich. 01:25:01.60 mikebledsoe When I'm eating higher quality foods like it does seem like it's harder to eat. It's like I get satisfied more quickly So I don't eat as many calories and then I'm also burning through a lot of calories in the day and then if I'm training which I am right now. Are you just the. 01:25:00.83 Max Shank Then. 01:25:40.30 mikebledsoe The appetite just skyrocket. But I don't I won't put down just anything So then I end up eating Keto ice cream with honey and strawberries at night. 01:25:17.83 Max Shank A. 01:25:28.93 Max Shank Yeah I'll I'll eat healthy food I'll just eat 3 times the volume of what I should eat. It's weird I'll be at a restaurant or something and they'll be like. Do you want any dessert and I'll look at the dessert menu. 01:26:12.40 mikebledsoe Yeah I think I just have a small stomach some you know. 01:26:06.89 Max Shank And I'll be like no but I will get another entree instead when it's like roughly this I Really like savory foods so we'll be out. It'll be like sushi or something they'll be like oh you want dessert and I'm looking the desserts I'm go think I'll just have more rice and fish and avocado and that kind of thing. 01:26:59.64 mikebledsoe A ah. 01:26:42.61 Max Shank Um, food Huh How about that. 01:27:13.82 mikebledsoe Yeah, so going back to ordering chaos where we started. Ah I I think that what we're gonna be witnessing moving forward is a lot of people seeking order. There was I was listening ah to. 01:26:55.61 Max Shank Order up. 01:27:16.30 Max Shank A. 01:27:52.76 mikebledsoe Gad sad god sad how do you say his name on Rogan the other day and it was talking about how some of the professors are starting to report that the that the new students in the college in the universities are. Really wanting a more conservative approach to things like they seem to be tired with you know all the the crazy shit around you know like they're being 72 different genders and and all that kind of stuff and so the ah. 01:28:26.15 Max Shank All that shit is just all that shit doesn't matter. It's just about whether or not the discourse is violent or not I think. 01:29:13.46 mikebledsoe Well I think that's part of the problem is it's it. You know it's obviously been violent people certain people aren't allowed to talk at universities because they get shouted out and basically forced out So that's chaos. That's that's people's emotional state. 01:28:57.53 Max Shank Right? wild. 01:29:51.40 mikebledsoe Overtaking their behavior becoming illogical and then are unable to you know have intepit discourse. So I yeah I think I mean if we look at if we look at what Ray Dalio says if we look at the fourth turning. We look at these things that these people who talk about. These cycles that are going on in the world and I think we're pretty getting pretty close to maxing out on chaos I mean I think the only thing that's more chaotic for for for the american public for for the. 01:30:19.51 Max Shank Um, what whoa woa I don't know I'm still listening though but I don't know. 01:31:05.40 mikebledsoe For the American Public's taste for things you think they can take more chaos. We'll see. Um, yeah I could see it going a little bit further I mean but the the only thing that's left is is now and. 01:30:58.23 Max Shank Um I think of anarchy as chaos like anarchy is chaos that I mean that would be soak I Oh my God I think things like I don't think things are being run well. But. 01:31:40.16 mikebledsoe No anarchy is different. So ah. 01:32:01.30 mikebledsoe Boy here. 01:31:36.77 Max Shank My gosh I think a lot of stuff is still running so smoothly so predictably in such an ordered fashion I mean I hope it doesn't get more chaotic and unpredictable. 01:32:22.40 mikebledsoe Well well anarchy anarchy just means without a ruler and so it no without a ruler and so it has to do with. 01:32:06.67 Max Shank Right? Well without without rule isn't it or just without a guy who enforces the rules then. 01:32:59.34 mikebledsoe God. 01:32:36.89 Max Shank No. 01:33:08.42 mikebledsoe Ah, well if you define God by natural law like like gravity like like to me that is the the forces that have put been put in place to create physical order in the world which we don't need. Anyone to be in charge to do that right? like real laws are things that no person has to enforce and so you have natural law and then you have common law which is basically don't fuck with me and I'm not going to fuck with you right. 01:33:47.53 Max Shank Right? But who's enforcing that is the question. That's what I'm saying So it's ah you know I think there would be a lot more people stealing each other shit if they didn't think there was some like repercussion. 01:34:22.64 mikebledsoe Well people ultimately have to enforce it for themselves. Yeah. 01:34:43.68 mikebledsoe Her maybe maybe well here here's wait. There is a reapercussion so here's an example San Francisco has riots how long do they last Minneapolis long fucking time. You know how long they lasted in Miami. 01:34:25.51 Max Shank That the hired guns could lay in a long time. Yeah, not as long. 01:35:20.78 mikebledsoe Yeah, about 36 hours and then it everyone went back to order and it's not because they put more police force out. It's because the the ah the police came out and said hey if you own a store on this street. You might want to come out with your gun. They basically encourage people to protect their own property because that's a state in which they honor property rights right? and then right and then but. 01:35:43.30 Max Shank Which are the only reason we have all these rules in the None place. 01:36:24.58 mikebledsoe But property rights aren't necessarily I don't think they necessarily have to be enforced by an outside entity whereas in California you have government officials that are impeding property rights so in 1 state you've got the encouragement of protecting your own property like we're not even going to do it. You do it. 01:36:19.49 Max Shank Right. 01:36:32.53 Max Shank Right. 01:37:03.90 mikebledsoe And then in San Francisco they're saying whatever you do don't protect your own property or else we're gonna come after you, you know you can't have a gun if you shoot somebody on your property. We're gonna you're gonna be in trouble. So some people would say that San Francisco has got way more order or. 01:36:46.10 Max Shank Right. 01:37:42.64 mikebledsoe Whereas Florida seems a little more anarchist right? where they're encouraging when I think about anarchy it brings it down to there is a ruler and each person has to be their own ruler in which case. So we look at Miami and people would say oh we're just gonna let people kill each other but the the amount of damage that was done and the amount of deaths were really small because what happened was people came out with their guns. A couple writers got shot and killed and then everyone goes. Oh you can't do that or else you might get shot and killed and so they just don't do it anymore. So I think this is a good example of of the order being placed by. You know, an authoritative government is shown to be ineffective. So I think. 01:38:32.51 Max Shank Um, well yeah. 01:39:31.30 mikebledsoe Majority of order that's produced people generally want to be kind to each other people generally want to get along in all the research people avoid conflict. They don't They don't do these things they enter into conflict when they think they can be faceless and nameless and they're wearing a mask and and running through the streets. 01:39:24.49 Max Shank Most people. 01:39:38.77 Max Shank A. 01:40:09.94 mikebledsoe With a thousand other people and they can blend in now they become that's chaos. That's that's that's the mob but that's not anarchy. That's ah anarchy would be everyone. There would be consequences. You're held liable for your personal stuff. 01:39:48.30 Max Shank Um, a mob. 01:40:44.12 mikebledsoe Just because everybody was doing It doesn't mean that you are um that it's okay to do it So There's a level of individual responsibility that I see that happens with anarchy and I think that this I think that anything that's not anarchy is actually a. It's an illusion because if we if we go up so we. 01:40:58.49 Max Shank Well hold up every society is an illusion based on a unify unifying set of beliefs whether it's the tree spirit or an eye for an eye code of hamurabi or hey that guy with the big stick is in charge because he can beat up everyone else. 01:41:50.46 mikebledsoe It's just it's a story. 01:42:02.26 mikebledsoe Well well the big, the big stick guy is usually what people think about anything about anarchy is like it's like oh yeah, it's a power game right? It's like if everyone's just running around and. 01:41:38.50 Max Shank Right? And we just do what he says. That's all. 01:41:56.53 Max Shank Well it it is extra Well if there's no recourse if someone takes your stuff except for your own then everyone is going to have to arm themselves significantly more now I do think that would make a community. 01:43:01.74 mikebledsoe I Think it would be a much more peaceful community as well. 01:42:33.81 Max Shank Much much stronger been to Oklahoma I agree completely. Um, people would respect boundaries a little more I believe and if you think that you may get shot. You're less likely to go try to Rob someone unless it's really really desperate. 01:43:32.78 mikebledsoe Um, yeah. 01:43:12.31 Max Shank And even then you're more likely to go ask? What can you do you can beg borrow or steal if someone has something you want. You know you can work you can beg or you can take um so I think it has a lot to do with. 01:43:52.82 mikebledsoe Now. 01:44:05.90 mikebledsoe Or. 01:43:51.67 Max Shank Fact that we can get our needs met relatively smoothly and I think if you had let's say a dis because I'm not a fan of how taxpayer dollars are managed at all because that's all government is it's all all of our pooled resources put to work by a few. Ah. Clever folks. But I think if you were to dissolve that whole system. Ah it would be a really shaky turbulent. Ah very chaotic adjustment period because the whole concept of. dollars and cents and retirements and everything would just completely collapse and all of these agreements based on that old system would also collapse so all of your existing contracts would basically be like I'm gonna just not. 01:46:08.66 mikebledsoe Well, a lot of a lot of these structures are are corporate in nature and so these agreements and so any agreements you have with government I mean it's a corporate. It's an agreement between a corporation and an individual which is technically like unlawful. 01:45:43.21 Max Shank Do that anymore. 01:46:13.47 Max Shank Right? But those ah but those agreements are basically just for if you have to go to a court. 01:46:46.74 mikebledsoe In a way. But. 01:46:56.84 mikebledsoe Yeah there I got a I got a show coming out with Jesse Elder where he covers the whole going to court thing but the which I think will be interesting but I want I want to take this back to the the idea that that do we live. My argument is we already live in anarchy right? And so the I was thinking about this the other day is so there's a war between well I'm about to explain it. So everyone everyone thinks that there's a rule of law right? like the United States is like it's it's not ruled by men. It's ruled by law. 01:47:21.70 Max Shank Why do we live in anarchy. Okay. 01:47:46.37 Max Shank Sometimes. 01:48:14.78 mikebledsoe And so that's that was that's kind of the concept of the United States it's not necessarily how it's resulted, but that's the concept was to to keep us out of trouble. But if we get outside of the United States and we go global. We have global anarchy right? the. 01:47:57.31 Max Shank Right. 01:48:53.24 mikebledsoe There is no. There is no authority that makes the countries behave So some of these. 01:48:32.10 Max Shank Maybe oligarchy maybe more like an oligarchy than total anarchy like I think there's a lot of power centers and unions and allegiances that guide the flow of the world. 01:49:22.52 mikebledsoe There are there are the um that that are a lot less oligarchies. Well depends on the oligarch like what system you're using can be less violent. You mean you could say that like Elon Musk is probably None of the most powerful people on the planet. Not probably He's more powerful than most countries. Ah and ah, but all the interaction with him and his stuff is is voluntary. So it's it's a less. He may be he may be in charge of people's minds in a way because he's deciding you know what? they. 01:49:54.17 Max Shank Which is amazing. Ah, right. 01:50:38.78 mikebledsoe They may be seeing because he controls that way, but it's not.. It's not overtly coercive or or violent. Um, but if we if we extrapolate out and we go what keeps these nations like what supersedes the nation you know and some people might say Nato UN. Ah, have all these different organizations where these countries send representatives and they jerk each other off for a few days and then go back. Ah these that the truth is is the only thing that keeps anyone from fucking with anybody else is the possibility of total destruction. There's an entire global strategy going on by each country On. You have a few powers that are trying to dominate. But there's all these allies that are created and rules and and and they're generating all this stuff but generally like if you I think people. People are under this false premise of there is law and order that's produced by human beings. But it's completely inaccurate because if we keep going to a larger Magnitude. We start seeing that there's nothing other than brute force and power that is. That is in charge and so in which case I say that that's truly just Anarchy. We already exist under it. But the problem is is we suffer under a ah like ah this illusion because people don't ah. Because they put their trust in the illusion. They never take personal responsibility. They never become their own ruler. They never make their own decisions. They never learn to protect themselves feed themselves provide for themselves and so they're putting the trust in something illusory that can change at a moment's notice. And put them out in the cold. 01:54:07.63 Max Shank Um, yeah I I tend to think that all ah Authority matters are resolved that way with the threat of total destruction on a micro level and on a macro level. You know the. 01:55:06.22 mikebledsoe M. 01:54:45.33 Max Shank Way that individuals are ruled the way that countries are ruled the way that countries rule over each other.. It's always the threat of total destruction and you know self-preservation is a very powerful instinct and I think that's probably what drives ah countries more than anything. Is the self-preservation Instinct of the rulers. 01:55:59.64 mikebledsoe Um, yeah, gotta be I mean I think that's just everybody. 01:55:39.27 Max Shank Keep the power get a little bit more keep the power get a little bit more because it never ends it very rarely ends well like the dictator doesn't like ride off into the sunset and be like hey guys I had fun oppressing the shit out of you. Thank you for letting me just go on. 01:56:36.86 mikebledsoe Yeah, well when was the last time there was a dictator that like died of natural causes and everybody all the your country. The country was like oh yeah, ah. 01:56:14.47 Max Shank Down the dusty road dude North Korea North Korea one of my favorite front. None of my favorite stories ever I another plug for dictators playbook. Very good series. The story of ah Kim il-sung. And then ah Kim Jong -il and now kim jong un none generation dictatorship pretty good for the modern era he is repressing the shit out of those people's ability to see information and see what other life is like he's smeared the hell out of the fat americans it's incredible. 01:57:29.64 mikebledsoe Now. Yeah. 01:58:00.28 mikebledsoe I need to I need to watch this. It sounds. 01:57:33.19 Max Shank Ah, anyway, Kim il-sung dot died of natural causes. Kim Jong -il also died of natural causes. Kim Jong un maybe eating himself to death. But that's still a natural cause basically like it's incredible. 01:58:25.98 mikebledsoe Yeah, well what I'm saying yeah but people aren't happy what I'm saying is like has anyone ah as a dictator ever like died and then everyone's like oh genuinely sad. 01:58:17.75 Max Shank There is way less obesity in North Korea than the United States that's a fact that's a fact. 01:58:57.48 mikebledsoe Did you did you listen to that? Ah interview Rogan did with um that North Korean woman who escaped at fucking crazy. Totally worth listening to. 01:58:44.51 Max Shank Um, yeah I did it was wild. Loved it. Dude That's the history of the world is like awful awful stuff like that look at all the like torture shame the the um juxtaposition of. Art and war as ah, vessels for this oscillation between order and chaos is Incredible. We're making these beautiful pieces of art. We're you know, putting together quilts and nice things for people and medicines and then we have like these. Ah. Mechanical suppositories that expand up your anus as torture and you just have these like weird is such ah, an insane level of destruction and violent and then creation and cooperation and you know optimism. I Mean human beings are insane and then a few of them get really insane and are like I will lead these people and then and then I here's what I think happens I don't think this is going to be a very popular take but I think ah. Most of the most of the guys who went and did these insane things. It was really like the whispers of a lady that was driving him. You know what? I mean I think we we cannot. We cannot Blame. Ah. 02:02:04.24 mikebledsoe Oh yeah. 02:01:53.57 Max Shank White We We can't make white men the whipping boy of all the evil shit. That's ever been Done. You know ladies men of all colors of all creeds have oppressed people I'm sure that there were Queens who would tease their king about the size of his kingdom. And just nag nag nag him until he conquered the neighbors be like you call this a kingdom This is the tiniest Kingdom. That's what I think yeah. 02:03:07.16 mikebledsoe I think that was like Alexander the great alexander the great. Yeah and what's her name or is it Ashley and I got this conversation the other day which was we we take we take like things that are really hot. Like unstable topics in society and then we debate them in the car and because she grew up in the bay where there's a very she grew up in a very left leaning view. So there's a lot of opportunity for me to ask her questions just had a curiosity is like okay how is. 02:03:38.67 Max Shank Ah. 02:04:22.20 mikebledsoe Okay, this is how I understand this situation. What's the okay, what's going on over there and she tells me I'm like okay have are those people have they considered this so no, okay, cool and so it's like it ends up in a interesting conversation. So one was um, we were listening to a show. They're talking about. Um you know, ah, ah, equity like equity amongst men and women for pay right? who you know men men generally get paid more money than women and so the feminist movement has been. Incredibly focused on money in in regard to things not being fair and so and so that was my that was my so we got in this conversation. so so yeah yeah so Ashley's like you know it's unfair and. 02:05:19.71 Max Shank They already spend all the money. There are so many reasons for there are so many reasons for this I mean. Okay. 02:06:16.72 mikebledsoe And I was like I was like well have we talked about all the contributing factors to why it might be that way and then the number one? Well the None thing that I came up with not came up with but like the None stat that we looked at was ah okay. So men make how much more money on average and women for the same type of work. Okay, well, who spends the money who who spends more money. It's like well the women spend 70% of all the money on. 02:06:44.45 Max Shank But there there are like 10 different reasons that things usually are this way if it was so clear cut as like the Twitter sized argument would have you believe then every smart businessman would just hire women I would save. 02:07:45.74 mikebledsoe Totally. 02:07:24.37 Max Shank I would save 25% on my ah payroll and I would be because if it's the same job for ah 25% less money. You would be a fool not to do it. You would have just factories. You would only have women employees. It would only be women working ah like why wouldn't you why wouldn't you no no, it's it's stupid. It's just another distraction. We have so much more in common. 02:08:32.48 mikebledsoe That's that's a really good point or because of discrimination people are are misogynist What it's It's ah it's a. Well the thing the thing is is people people will they look at the result and then they they that that's the explanation. Oh. There's not this so it must be.. It must be that that person that men are generally bad at you know that are generally misogynistic. 02:08:37.10 Max Shank Ah, then we have different. 02:09:41.72 mikebledsoe So There's this like the proof for a lot of people. The proof is in the the lack of equity versus getting into all the little things that might contribute to that and you make a really good point because you know what? if if I could get away with that I do the same thing and. And then you could like claim to be nobles like oh I I Only hire women and and in the background you know you, you're making more money That's not necessarily I don't see in the conversations I yeah. 02:09:53.91 Max Shank Um, yeah. 02:10:09.43 Max Shank It's just like a different type of sexism I mean I don't think I think more than people being like pro-man or pro lady or anti-man or anti-lady people are just selfish understandably. So. You're the only None living your experience. You're the only one responsible for it if you can get a few extra points of street cred for talking shit. Why wouldn't you I mean we talked about how effective lying is talking shit is so effective I mean do you think Tom Sawyer painted the fence. No. Sweet talked the other kid and said hey wouldn't you like to paint this fence I will trade you the opportunity of painting this fence for that shiny red Apple you got and so he's there eating the Apple while this guy is so happy that he now has the opportunity to build a fence so people are just. Selfish and they realize that they can talk to get attention and energy and that kind of thing instead of work and there are so many I mean my god we could talk all day about this like alleged discrimination between men and women. But um. This is a contest that nobody wins there's no way to win this discussion because it's like hey did you know that men kill themselves 4 times more than women they're like no I didn't know that is like well can you just like fucking eat the quarter and like. Not worry I mean we're dying 4 times as much at our own hand like is it really? So amazing. Yeah. 02:13:43.26 mikebledsoe Well 98% of workplace deaths are men as well like I it's like is what. 02:13:27.69 Max Shank But but that's that's the whole point is like people just do what they want to do that's all and quite frankly, you know if you're a lady you can just get really hot and nice. But if you're a fella I mean I guess you could do that too like you could be a cabana boy. Type of ah life strategy I've considered it I've done the entrepreneurship thing for a while but I've also considered what if I put the same amount of dedication to being like a really like goodlooking Kabana boy right? and just like teach yoga classes by the pool of some like rich lady. And my whole responsibility is just like oh a little more suntann for you I'll whip up a little ah sandwich for you there like that's totally a strategy and maybe I would earn more doing that than what I'm currently doing so. It's fine, but it's just that usually the way that a guy shows. 02:15:33.80 mikebledsoe Maybe maybe. 02:15:21.39 Max Shank Ah, dominance in the hierarchy is by making lots of money That's usually how it is and then if you like get the gender roles confused sometimes you have people chasing things that don't even feel good to them. They just do it because they think they're supposed to and that's. 02:15:54.00 mikebledsoe Um, yeah, yeah. 02:16:21.18 mikebledsoe Yeah. 02:15:59.83 Max Shank I think that is ah actually really scary sp

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The profound moment of a woman telling Jesse that he is the freest man she has ever met and how his life has been designed around that. What true freedom feels like on a somatic level. How someone can know whether or not they are living in freedom. Jesse's deep physical background in martial arts and now owning a center. Exploring the 5 areas of wellness: physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, financial and how they've played a role in Jesse's life. The "baptism of reality" that Jesse received while at a party when he was 19 years old. Why martial art schools are a beautiful place to learn how to expand not only your body but your mind and spirit as well. The various areas of health and wellness that Jesse tested out for himself before opening his first martial arts school at 23 years old. How all of our experiences contain the raw fuel for new belief systems later on in life. His mission to constantly be seeking new people that he can learn from to help him grow. Why time is irrelevant when it comes to learning and growing because all achievements are really an emotional journey. [20:30] The Arc of Intelligence Unpacking the arc of intelligence as we gather, apply, and embody what we learn. Breaking down how we're all learning like a lion cub. What it was like for Jesse, the pros and cons, to grow up in a household where his parents were more hands-off and gave him lots of personal space. How we choose to see different events and perceive them in different ways. His parent's deep involvement with helping refugees from Central America as his father become Director of a halfway house. Jesse's experience witnessing his father being arrested and being found guilty in court for helping these refugees who were illegal aliens when he was 10 years old and how that pushed him to grow up instantly. The story that Jesse could have created for himself that his father loved other people more than he loved his family and so he left them but Jesse knew that wouldn't be helpful for him. Other stories Jesse could have let himself believe and live by about his father but he didn't and how he did that. Deeply exploring what it is about the human psyche that allows us to create and believe in all these false stories and narratives. [29:30] Mindset Shift: "Is This Useful For Me?" The fact that humans will do anything to create a connection even if it revolves around pain. Questioning the story in your mind and why you should stop asking what is true but rather what is useful. The powerful fact that only you can decide whether a thought or a story is serving you or not. His past marriage and his want to financially help provide for his ex-wife after their divorce by giving her the money when he sold his business. What it was like for Jesse to start over from zero at 40 years old. Garrett J. White Taking a deeper look at truth vs usefulness and how Jesse has applied that to his life journey. What Jesse was taught about business when he first began his career and how it contrasted with what he believed in at his core. How Jesse tuned in to himself to find out who he wanted to and didn't want to work with as he grew his business. [39:00] Why Public Schools are Failing Children David R. Hawkins How Josh was traumatized by the public school system as a child and what he learned about himself on a deeper level during his recent Vision Quest. Why more and more parents are choosing the option of homeschooling over public school. 354 Keith Norris What our children should be learning and how much time they should focus on each subject. Why Jesse believes it's not the job of the public school system to educate children; it's to control, divide, dumb down, confuse, and overwhelm. Jordan Peterson The benefits of safe danger and allowing children to play and explore vs. being a helicopter parent. Why many parents are limited in creativity and courage plus how to increase your levels in both. The importance of allowing children to explore different experiences to fully embrace their humanity. Why it's important for parents to continually live in a way where they are confronting their own fears. [50:00] The New Age of Humanity 405 Tim Corcoran Richard Branson explains the most important lesson he learned from his mom The New Age of Humanity that we are all experiencing right now, especially with food and the food industry. What we're currently facing and will face with coming food shortages and what that will mean for society moving forward. The Sovereign Individual by James Dale Davidson and Lord William Rees-Mogg 442 Robert Breedlove Cycles of rites of passage that are constantly happening around us and for us. Natural Born Heroes by Christopher McDougall Why he believes the era of the American empire is now done as the world has evolved. The call to loving arms and protecting yourself and the people in your life. What freedom farms are and how people can being to model them on their own. Here piggy, piggy... How totalitarians used Zoom to trap the masses How people control others by using tactics of fear. What steps you can take to prep for possible food shortages in advance. It's okay if a lot of emotions are coming up for you during this conversation. The freedom and creativity that is opened up and vibrant at Burning Man as everyone is self-reliant and expands their minds. [1:20:00] Building Self Resiliency & Life Upgrades What can help you build up your mind with self resiliency plus upgrade your life right now including physical training. The upgrades Jesse receives and what they feel like for him. His experience with anxiety when he was younger and how he knows these sensations are not that but upgrades in his mind, body, and spirit. The downshift drift he will feel when he gets too close to mainstream comfort levels like when he spends hours on his phone looking at social media. Benefits of doing deep research on past and current world events that are fearful but also sobering. Why we can't be love or experience true freedom without having both the light and the dark in life. 443 Leslie Manookian How to connect with higher consciousness and source by creating a specific environment for it. How To Choose Freedom, Joy, And Expansion with Jesse Elder What to do to bring yourself back to center when you feel disconnected. Why he's so thankful for all of the contrast that happens in his life because it's helping him grow. [1:32:30] Your Natural Law Right Paul Chek | All Is God What tangible actions you can take right now if you are feeling uneasy or fearful after listening to Jesse and Josh's conversation. The fact that all humans are created equal and no human has more rights than any other. Why it's so hard for us to sometimes stand up for ourselves and so we go along with the majority because we want connection and to be safe. The place that we all have in the natural world and what that means. Breaking down taxation and the fact that it does not exist in the natural world, so why should we give in? The overwhelm that Jesse felt in his mind about two taxes to the point that he didn't pay them for up to 7 years. His interest in law and why there isn't any rule that says you must pay personal income taxes, it is voluntary, but he hired a lawyer just in case. The experience he had being audited and why it didn't scare him. Why it's so important to dig deep right now and start exploring who you are at your core in your mind and body, a divine creation. Alphonso Faggiolo on YouTube Official website of Alphonse Faggiolo Crrow777 Radio Donald Duck The Spirit of 43 1943 How to let go of our fear of 'death' in our minds. Power Quotes From The Show Mind Vitamins & Non-Resistant Flow “Time behaves very differently when you're operating in a vacuum of judgment. When you are completely free of the past and free of the future, and you are filling this time in space with who and what you actually are…and being fully, really powerfully yourself. It is beyond cathartic and a restoration of your child-like qualities of being timeless." - Jesse Elder | The Art of Resiliency Achieving Functional Mastery "I'm hungry and I'll do whatever it takes to be around other people that I can learn from. In that way, my ego is extremely involved too. I'm not competitive with anybody and I don't see how it can be a useful frame. After a while you absorb so much information, you're constantly testing, and then before you know it you have a mastery that might have taken ten years of trial and error if you hadn't compressed it in a short amount of time. Calendars are irrelevant to success; all achievement is really an emotional journey of normalization." - Jesse Elder How to be in Alignment with Universal Frequency "While we're in this physical experience, we're here to observe and create. We create by feeling our emotions as they constantly act as a beacon of attraction, but also a way to give feedback. When we feel good, happy, and have that powerful sense of well-being - then we're in alignment with the universal frequency. When we don't feel good because of our perception or because of other people's influence that pulls our perception, it's just a sign that we've gotten away from who we really are." - Jesse Elder Links From Today's Show  Jesse Podcast The Upgraded Life David R. Hawkins 354 Keith Norris Jordan Peterson 405 Tim Corcoran Richard Branson explains the most important lesson he learned from his mom The Sovereign Individual by James Dale Davidson and Lord William Rees-Mogg 442 Robert Breedlove Natural Born Heroes by Christopher McDougall Here piggy, piggy... How totalitarians used Zoom to trap the masses 443 Leslie Manookian How To Choose Freedom, Joy, And Expansion with Jesse Elder Paul Chek | All Is God Alphonso Faggiolo on YouTube Official website of Alphonse Faggiolo Crrow777 Radio Donald Duck The Spirit of 43 1943 Homeschooling, Streetfighting, Freedom, Common Vs. 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He is an international life coach and a man with an abundant life mentality (check him out at jesseelder.com). He is all about upgrades and self-mastery. You will hear in this episode how Jesse started out as a little boy dedicated to Martial Arts, and by 20 yrs of age, he was traveling the world competing. Then he opened his own martial arts school and sought out successful mentors to help him with the business side of things. He learned that his success wasn't going to rely on how great of a martial artist he was, but on how well he related and connected with others.

So who are the guests?Our first guest is the inspiring Christina Rasmussen. Recognized internationally as an acclaimed educator, founder of ‘The Life Reentry Institute', and published author with her book 'Second Firsts', Christina Rasmussen has been on quite the journey.From being featured as a “Woman Working to Do Good” in the White House Blog to having her work appear on ABC News and MariaShriver.com, Christina is on a mission to help others overcome their grief and do the impossible, by going through the unthinkable.Our second guest is the captivating Jesse Elder. A speaker, mentor, and entrepreneur, Jesse Elder has devoted his life to sharing his principles of self-mastery with people all around the world. Jesse connects people to their unique purpose and vision, helping them on the path to self-authorization. By teaching others how to create their own success and fulfillment, they can reclaim their personal freedom, and master their reality. ++You can follow Giovanni:Archangel Academy: https://archangel.cc/Giovanni Marsico Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giftedwithgio/Giovanni Marsico Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thegiftedentrepreneur/Giovanni Marsico LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/giovannimarrsico/#gifted #weareallgifted #changemaker #selfimprovement #personaldevelopment #dreams #business #journey #entrepreneur #entrepreneurship #motivation #manifestation #growth #mindset #success

Save 15% on Strong Coffee Company with checkout code UPANDADAM at www.StrongCoffeeCompany.com Up and Adam is an Operation Podcast production. For your podcast needs email us at info@operationpodcast.com. This show is filmed at IBBLE studios in Austin, TX. “The only thing that I can do is live authentically if I actually care about serving other people, because the words that I'm saying are irrelevant.” ~Jesse Elder Jesse is a speaker, mentor, entrepreneur, podcaster, action philosopher, and all-around lover of life. He's devoted his life to sharing his principles of self-mastery with people all around the world. Through his popular Mind Vitamin videos, online courses, events, and private coaching, Jesse teaches others how to create their own success and fulfillment, reclaim their personal freedom, and master their reality. Jesse joins Adam on this episode of Up and Adam to discuss the evolution of martial arts, the indestructibility of the human spirit, and the art of living out an action-oriented life. He considers himself blessed to have grown up in a loving family of seven. Young Jesse was homeschooled, which gave him the freedom to explore and develop his unique strengths, interests, and passions at his own pace. He was introduced to martial arts at nine years old and grew to love it so much that by 20, he had competed throughout the US and Mexico in a variety of tournaments ranging from local semi-contact matches to full blown, no-holds-barred events where the winner was the last man standing after brutal rounds with no weight classes, no safety equipment and no rules. That combination of physical and mental fortitude that was forged within him as a fighter carried him through every dimension of his life, and through every stage of his life. Jesse channeled his love for martial arts, teaching, and mentorship into Victory Martial Arts, a school he built alongside fellow entrepreneurs. The multi-million dollar operation now spans eight locations. In 2012, he handed the reins of the school over to one of his partners, but today Jesse continues to conduct private coaching sessions with a select group of students. Today, Jesse is known for teaching and living out what he calls “action philosophy”, which he developed as a response to the mainstream self-help industry. His central message is radical self-acceptance and an encouragement to do no harm, take no shit.   Follow Jesse @jesseelderlive Follow Adam @vonrothfelder   Save 15% on Strong Coffee Company with checkout code UPANDADAM at www.StrongCoffeeCompany.com Up and Adam is an Operation Podcast production. To learn more email us at info@operationpodcast.com 

This week we have Daniel Duron on the podcast. Daniel is a Sound Wizard, Body Worker and Human Tuning specialist. He's here to assist in the ethical evolution of humanity by helping us remember who we truly are, and support us in the upgrade process. This episode is absolutely fire. We dive into Daniel's incredible journey and the lessons he has learned along the way. We discuss the process of becoming aware of programming and patterns, reconnecting with nature, and how our words and thoughts carry frequency. Daniel also shares practical tips for tapping into higher frequencies and remembering who we are and tells an incredible story of interacting with inter-dimensional beings. Join The Härt Collective's https://www.hartcollective.org/membership (Inner Circle Community) for bonus material, community spotlights, workshops, movement & yoga flows and the opportunity to connect with Joe and other amazing members who are passionate about following their own inner calling!  Want to watch this episode? Subscribe to my https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH-fGbXb-BCZ2d7c1LIXjdg (Youtube Channel) If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 (Apple Podcasts) Tools and works discussed in this episode: https://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-Serpent-DNA-Origins-Knowledge/dp/0874779642 (The Cosmic Serpent) - Jeremy Narby Connect with David Instagram |https://www.instagram.com/whole_sky_resq/ ( @whole_sky_resq) Website |http://www.wholeskyhealingarts.com/ ( Whole Sky Healing Arts) Website |http://www.wholeskyart.com/ ( Whole Sky Art) Connect with Joe Website |http://www.joe-hawley.com/ ( www.joe-hawley.com) Website |https://www.hartcollective.org/ ( The Härt Collective) LinkedIn |http://linkedin.com/in/joe-hawley ( Joe Hawley) Instagram |https://www.instagram.com/joe.hawley/ ( @joe.hawley)   Check outhttp://www.growmotely.com/companies?afmc=thc ( growmotely.com) Get a 20% discount when you use coupon code BEYONDFEAR20 if you register forhttps://www.hartcollective.org/fear-alchemy ( Fear Alchemy) before May 5th. Are you ready to find deeper meaning and purpose in life? Join The Härt Collective's https://www.hartcollective.org/membership (Inner Circle Community), your tribe awaits!   Hart Collective Retreats:https://www.thehartcollective.com/events ( )https://www.hartcollective.org/retreats   Check out my reality based podcast with my wife Sarah,https://www.lovenlifepodcast.com/ ( Love 'n Life)   If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 ( Apple Podcasts)   Quantum Coffee is a show that provides deep, powerful, insightful conversations with top thought leaders and experts in the field of holistic healing in all areas including the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual bodies. We curiously discuss esoteric topics, spirituality, alternative healing modalities, sacred plant medicine and psychedelics along with personal stories of transformation, healing and growth with the intention to share the wisdom, knowledge and personal experiences of the these leaders who are paving the way in order to inspire change, both personally and collectively, so that we may step into a new reality, together.  Join our host, Joe Hawley, a former NFL starting center, who, after playing for 8 seasons with the Atlanta Falcons and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, went on his own journey towards healing. He is now on a mission to inspire others courageous enough to walk their own path towards self-realization, healing and growth.  Inspirations for the show include Aubrey Marcus, Russell Brand, Duncan Trussell, Zach Bush, Jesse Elder, Deepak Chopra, Tim Kennedy and so many more. ...

Welcome to another Drop Into the Härt! In this episode, Joe breaks down the process of creating and filming “Fear Alchemy” and what you can expect from the course. He breaks down how fear has showed up in his life and how he has learned to use it for growth, and what it means to be courageous. Join The Härt Collective'shttps://login.circle.so/checkout/inner-circle-member?request_host=thehartcollective.circle.so ( Inner Circle Community) for bonus material, community spotlights, workshops, movement & yoga flows and the opportunity to connect with Joe and other amazing members who are passionate about following their own inner calling!  Want to watch this episode? Subscribe to myhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH-fGbXb-BCZ2d7c1LIXjdg ( Youtube Channel) If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 ( Apple Podcasts) Connect with Joe Website |http://www.joe-hawley.com/ ( www.joe-hawley.com) Website |https://www.thehartcollective.com/ ( The Härt Collective) LinkedIn |http://linkedin.com/in/joe-hawley ( Joe Hawley) Instagram |https://www.instagram.com/joe.hawley/ ( @joe.hawley)   Check outhttp://www.growmotely.com/companies?afmc=thc ( growmotely.com)   Are you ready to find deeper meaning and purpose in life? Join The Härt Collective'shttps://login.circle.so/checkout/inner-circle-member?request_host=thehartcollective.circle.so ( Inner Circle Community), your tribe awaits!   Hart Collective Retreats:https://www.thehartcollective.com/events ( https://www.thehartcollective.com/events)   Check out my reality based podcast with my wife Sarah,https://www.lovenlifepodcast.com/ ( Love 'n Life)   If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 ( Apple Podcasts)   Quantum Coffee is a show that provides deep, powerful, insightful conversations with top thought leaders and experts in the field of holistic healing in all areas including the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual bodies. We curiously discuss esoteric topics, spirituality, alternative healing modalities, sacred plant medicine and psychedelics along with personal stories of transformation, healing and growth with the intention to share the wisdom, knowledge and personal experiences of the these leaders who are paving the way in order to inspire change, both personally and collectively, so that we may step into a new reality, together.  Join our host, Joe Hawley, a former NFL starting center, who, after playing for 8 seasons with the Atlanta Falcons and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, went on his own journey towards healing. He is now on a mission to inspire others courageous enough to walk their own path towards self-realization, healing and growth.  Inspirations for the show include Aubrey Marcus, Russell Brand, Duncan Trussell, Zach Bush, Jesse Elder, Deepak Chopra, Tim Kennedy and so many more. 

As of this recording, Russia is going to war with Ukraine and Jesse and I talk about the necessity of love and why all of the sh*t that's happening right now happens.    00:00 Introduction 02:30 Russia's war with Ukraine 06:00 A complete reckoning. 11:39 The collapse of Fiat 15:33  Codependency on the corporation 23:51 Attention as the currency of transformation 27:24 Climate change 33:10 If a severe economic crisis hits  36:28 A Limp Society 44:15 Sh*t gets weird in a party 53:30 All that's happening right now has to happen 1:08 A few last words

Today, I'm speaking with Jesse Elder. Jesse is an entrepreneur, philosopher, speaker, mentor, and coach, who has devoted his life to sharing his principles of self-mastery with the world. Jesse has an unconventional approach to sales that I really wanted to dive into. The framework for his life and where business intersects is truly unique. As a result, the way he pitches products, communicates with his audience, and invites people to buy his stuff, is fundamentally different from what most people are doing. In this episode, Jesse drops a ton of wisdom on what you can do differently to close sales. You'll learn how to effectively market to any audience, communication tactics that connect on a deeper level with prospects, and his highly effective approach to selling via webinars! Key Takeaways with Jesse Elder A unique and fascinating approach to creating product offers. The biggest reason most marketing messages fail. Webinar sales secrets to create real-time engagement, become more interesting, and get more buy-in from your audience. Why selfishness is the ultimate contribution to the world. What nature (and focusing on bettering oneself) can teach us about customer value creation. Why sales/marketing are pointless without honoring client relationships. How to rewire your brain to remove barriers and create new realities. Why aspirational branding is such an effective form of marketing. Using dialogue that connects deeply with your audience. Subscribe to the Podcast We hope you enjoy this episode and that you find some golden nuggets within this interview. Trust us, it's there! If you want episodes delivered straight to your inbox, consider subscribing to the show and we'll email you each time a new episode is released! Thanks for tuning it & keep being awesome. BAM!

In this episode, Joe begins by answering a question from a Härt Collective Community member around remaining positive and optimistic in life. He then drops into a guided meditation before diving into and explaining his evolving relationship with Jesus and Christianity Join The Härt Collective's https://www.hartcollective.org/membership (Inner Circle Community) for bonus material, community spotlights, workshops, movement & yoga flows and the opportunity to connect with Joe and other amazing members who are passionate about following their own inner calling!  Want to watch this episode? Subscribe to my https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH-fGbXb-BCZ2d7c1LIXjdg (Youtube Channel) If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 ( Apple Podcasts) Tools and works discussed in this episode: https://www.amazon.com/Monk-Who-Sold-His-Ferrari/dp/0062515675 (The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari ) - Robin Sharma https://www.amazon.com/10%25-Happier-Dan-Harris-audiobook/dp/B00I8NLVFY/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3BWFBNZNG4PZS&keywords=10%25+happier&qid=1645644969&s=books&sprefix=10%25+happier,stripbooks,86&sr=1-2 (10% Happier) - Dan Harris https://www.amazon.com/Resurrecting-Jesus-Adyashanti-audiobook/dp/B00JG6ZHFM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=290WL4741RI5C&keywords=resurrecting+jesus&qid=1645644987&s=audible&sprefix=resurrecting+jesus,audible,72&sr=1-1 (Resurrecting Jesus) - Adyashanti https://www.amazon.com/Mary-Magdalene-Revealed-audiobook/dp/B07SRK63YT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=390DWWAVSXPCI&keywords=mary+magdalene+revealed&qid=1645645006&s=audible&sprefix=mary+magdalene+revealed,audible,76&sr=1-1 (Mary Magdalene Revealed) - Meggan Watterson Connect with Joe Website |http://www.joe-hawley.com/ ( www.joe-hawley.com) Website |https://www.hartcollective.org/ ( The Härt Collective) LinkedIn |http://linkedin.com/in/joe-hawley ( Joe Hawley) Instagram |https://www.instagram.com/joe.hawley/ ( @joe.hawley)   Check outhttp://www.growmotely.com/companies?afmc=thc ( growmotely.com)   Are you ready to find deeper meaning and purpose in life? Join The Härt Collective's https://www.hartcollective.org/membership (Inner Circle Community), your tribe awaits!   Hart Collective Retreats:https://www.thehartcollective.com/events ( )https://www.hartcollective.org/retreats   Check out my reality based podcast with my wife Sarah,https://www.lovenlifepodcast.com/ ( Love 'n Life)   If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/quantum-coffee-with-joe-hawley-podcast/id1526131260 ( Apple Podcasts)   Quantum Coffee is a show that provides deep, powerful, insightful conversations with top thought leaders and experts in the field of holistic healing in all areas including the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual bodies. We curiously discuss esoteric topics, spirituality, alternative healing modalities, sacred plant medicine and psychedelics along with personal stories of transformation, healing and growth with the intention to share the wisdom, knowledge and personal experiences of the these leaders who are paving the way in order to inspire change, both personally and collectively, so that we may step into a new reality, together.  Join our host, Joe Hawley, a former NFL starting center, who, after playing for 8 seasons with the Atlanta Falcons and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, went on his own journey towards healing. He is now on a mission to inspire others courageous enough to walk their own path towards self-realization, healing and growth.  Inspirations for the show include Aubrey Marcus, Russell Brand, Duncan Trussell, Zach Bush, Jesse Elder, Deepak Chopra, Tim Kennedy and so many more. 

Ladies and gentlemen.... the one and only Jesse Elder - Time Piercer, Freedom Fighter, Musician, Philosopher, Speaker, Writer, Epic human... ALL THE THINGS! It's an honor, a pleasure and such a joy to have him on today. You are in for a TREAT! Today we tap into a subject that I freaking LOVE! How we can integrate better when we receive information? Turn information into knowledge into wisdom How to be more WISE in this day and age What is mean to collapse time What matters when we are showing up as entrepreneurs & coaches in integrity ? How to turn your sales strategy into an embodiment How to BE in integrity as you lead What matters when you are doing the things Why most marketing strategy doesn't work How we can integrate spiritual strategy in our businesses Why it matters who you are when you do the things How to Master the art of communication Why the way we communicate matters more than anything Becoming free from all illusions How we can be better coaches who supports our clients to come meet us Imposter syndrome and why it doesnt exist Healing the starving artist syndrome Why most people are addicted to poverty Why people wait until they are "worthy" to receive Follow Jesse on Facebook for daily insights Find him on Instagram Email Tasha to get your hands on the "Sell With Soul" Program @ natasha.mkredl@gmail.com Apply to The Courageous Collective - send me a direct message on Instagram or email me at yourexpansiveself@gmail.com Check out All Courses and Programs Available for Self Healing & Leadership Get on my Mailing List to get exclusive promos, announcements & launches! Leave a review for the podcast in 2 SECONDS! SUPER EASY! Find me on Instagram @tashakredl Facebook: Tasha Kredl Web: tashakredl.com Email: yourexpansiveself@gmail.com

From vaccine passports, to social media, cryptocurrency, guns, and more. Episode 34 is an episode I recorded live with Jesse Elder to talk about things that will either resonate with you or offend you. (Highly.)

Mark talks about getting on the receiving end of wealth transfers and why money, by itself, is not wealth. Jesse talks about our responsibility as individuals to change our individual situations. 

Welcome Back to another Freedom Friday. Todays special guest is Levi Deike. Levi has a background in Personal Training, Holistic Health coaching, Rehab Specialization, Entrepreneurship and he is a Doctor of Occupational Therapy. Levi shares with us today his story of winning the fight against cancer and how this adversity taught him valuable lessons that he uses today in his business. Levi currently works as a men's leadership coach where he empowers Men to lead as a powerful and influential presence in their careers & relationships by focusing on the mind, body, wisdom, and taking action. Levi and I met in Jesse Elder's selling with soul program and he stood out to me as someone that embodies what he teaches. Reach out to Levi via instagram HERE. If you'd like to learn more about the work I do and how you can unlock more Freedom through entrepreneurship and becoming a sovereign individual, then checkout the free content I have here Interested in actually LEARNING Spanish? Here is the app that I've used to help me on my journey to learning a second language...it is the only app on the market that allows you to have a back and forth conversation with the software. Its really hard to learn a language without speaking it. Start your free trial for JumpSpeak here. And if you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-Star review through the itunes podcast store. It helps get this show to more listeners.

Jesse Elder joins the crew to share his takes on history and his opinions on what that means is to come in rapidly changing new world. this is a truly epic conversation worth listening to several times.

On this extra special episode, I talk with Sarah Jo Vincent. We talk about SOOOO many topics I couldn't possibly stop this episode at 30 minutes. Here are just a few topics we discuss: Ending generational poverty, financial education for abundance, I.D.ing limiting beliefs, contagious attitudes, morning routines and structure, consistency, stacking wins, vulnerability, gratefulness practice and SO MUCH MORE! Join us for this iconic episode! REFERENCES: -Quote to ponder- “Your life is a manifestation of your thoughts” -People to Follow- Sarah Vincent > Founder of Soul Purpose, Financial Educator and Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sarahjov Website: https://lifesoulpurpose.org/ Contact: sarah@lifesoulpurpose.org MJ Scarlet (Coppola) > Host of Mirrored Wellness Podcast, CEO of Deep Breath Resolutions, Poet and Wellness Warrioress Everything MJ: https://beacons.page/mj.scarlet/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mj_scarlet.spirit/ Kohdi Rayne > Founder, Director, CEO at Morall Army Clothing Co., International Best Selling Author "You Can Overcome Anything" , Syndicated Course Creator at Hitchhiker's Guide To Video Marketing , Servant Leader & Quantum Strategist at Aphid ID LLC , 2 Time Syndicated Course Designer at The Mantis Program , Digital Artist at Better Than Bad Tom Bilyeu > https://impacttheory.com/ Brene Brown > https://brenebrown.com Ed Mylet > https://www.edmylett.com/ Shaun Stevenson > https://themodelhealthshow.com/ Emily Frisella > https://www.fithomeandhealth.com/ Andy Frisella > https://andyfrisella.com/ Jesse Elder > https://jesseelder.com/ -Books recommended- “Happy Money” by Ken Honda “Discipline Equals Freedom” by Jocko Willink “The Miracle Morning: The Not-So-Obvious Secret Guaranteed to Transform Your Life” by Hal Elrod “The Dark Side of the Light Chasers: Reclaiming Your Power, Creativity, Brilliance, and Dreams” by Debbie Ford This episode was brought to you by … Deep Breath Bookkeeping. Assisting Wellness Warriors and Creatives gain confidence in their business finances so they can spend more time on their craft. Healthy Finances. Happy Owners. Positive Impact. Find us at deepbreathbookkeeping.com Or the following social media platforms FaceBook @DeepBreathBK Instagram @DeepBreathBK LinkedIn --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

This episode is about one of my favorite topics: how we can set our kids up for success in an increasingly technological world. And I’m here with one of my favorite people to talk about this topic with, Jesse Elder. He is an author, speaker, and entrepreneur working on creating resources for families that help …

This episode is about one of my favorite topics: how we can set our kids up for success in an increasingly technological world. And I’m here with one of my favorite people to talk about this topic with, Jesse Elder. He is an author, speaker, and entrepreneur working on creating resources for families that help …

Welcome back to part two of Ryan's interview with Jesse Elder. Today they'll wrap up their conversation on the current state of the world (and why some people are handling it better than others).

Join me as I sit down to chat with my good friend Jesse Elder about the current state of the world and why some people are better at handling the chaos. What he shares in this conversation might have seemed crazy just a few months ago. Not only does it make sense in today's world, but it may also offer a glimpse into the future. Be sure to catch Part 2 next week, and pay close attention to Jesse's advice on how to navigate an uncertain world with the kind of calm self-confidence that's becoming rare.

Between his popular Mind Vitamin videos that have touched the hearts and minds of millions, his global speaking engagements, online courses, and private coaching, Jesse Elder has worked with people worldwide to upgrade their lives with his teachings of self-mastery, radical self-acceptance, and inspired action.

The fastest way to create breakthrough change is to get around people who shatter those paradigms. Jesse Elder is the guy people go to when they have noise in their heads and need to get it in line with their mission and purpose so they can serve more people and go to the next level. In this talk from the first ever Capitalism Conference Ryan & Jesse talk about overcoming self doubt and creating a new normal.