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280. Implementing the ONE Lifestyle Change that Improves All Aspects of Health with Sue Becker   Isaiah 61:1 AMP “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, Because the Lord has anointed and commissioned me To bring good news to the humble and afflicted; He has sent me to bind up [the wounds of] the brokenhearted, To proclaim release [from confinement and condemnation] to the [physical and spiritual] captives And freedom to prisoners,”   *Transcription Below*   Sue Becker is a gifted speaker and teacher, with a passion to share principles of healthy living in an encouraging way.  She is the co-owner of The Bread Beckers and founder of the ministry, Real Bread Outreach, all dedicated to promoting whole grain nutrition. Sue has a degree in Food Science from UGA and is the author of The Essential Home Ground Flour Book. Sue is a veteran home-schooling mom with 9 children and 13 grandchildren. She and her husband Brad, live in Canton, GA. Through her teaching, countless families have found improved health.   Sue's Instagram: @suebreadbeckers Sue's Website Sue's Podcast   Questions and Topics We Cover: You've supplied us with the knowledge, so now let's move on to the wisdom, which is learning how to apply what we now know. What equipment and grain do we need to get started so that this is possible to incorporate into our lifestyle? Once we mill the grain, how long do we have to use it before it loses its nutritional benefits? How long does it typically take to experience benefits from this lifestyle change and what health benefits can we expect to experience?   Related Episodes from The Savvy Sauce: 14 Simple Changes for Healthier Living with Leslie Sexton and Vasu Thorpe 26 Practical Tips to Eating Dinner Together as a Family with Blogger and Cookbook Co-Author, Rachel Tiemeyer 33 Pursuing Health with Functional Medicine Specialist, Dr. Jill Carnahan 129 Healthy Living with Dr. Tonya Khouri 205 Power of Movement with Alisa Keeton (Revelation Wellness) 212 School Series: Benefits of Homeschooling with Jodi Mockabee 256 Gut Health, Allergies, Inflammation and Proactive Solutions with Emily Macleod-Wolfe 261 Edible Theology with Kendall Vanderslice 270 Female Sex Hormones, Periods, and Perimenopause with Emily Macleod-Wolfe 275 Raising Healthy Kids: Free Tips with Emily Johnson   Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website   Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”   Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”   Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”    Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”    Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”    Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”    John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”   Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”    Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”   Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”   Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.”   Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”   Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“   Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“   Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”   *Transcription*   Music: (0:00 – 0:11)   Laura Dugger: (0:12 - 1:45) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here.   Thank you to the Sue Neihouser Team for sponsoring this episode.   If you're looking to buy or sell a home this season, make sure you reach out to Sue at 309-229-8831. Sue would love to walk alongside you as you unlock new doors.   I'm thrilled to get to be back with Sue Becker as my guest today. Make sure you go back and listen to part one, which we recorded last week. She was incredible explaining the one nutritional difference that will change everything. And now today, we're going to learn all of the practicals of how to actually implement this into our lifestyle.   Here's our chat. Welcome back to The Savvy Sauce, Sue.   Sue Becker: (1:45 - 1:46) Thank you. It's so good to be with you again. I can't wait to share even more.   Laura Dugger: (1:46 - 1:52) Well, last time you shared just incredible testimonies of the powerful difference that one nutritional change can make. And you root everything even back in the Bible, and God has really led you on this journey. So biblical passages about bread or grain or wheat appear hundreds of times throughout the Bible. But do you have any specific ones that come to mind that God has highlighted in your own life?   Sue Becker: (1:53 - 11:48) Yes, for sure. Shortly after, you know, I think I mentioned there's a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is death. And we don't necessarily relate that to bread, but it certainly does describe what happened, you know, when the steel rolling mills displaced the local miller.   And then one, another one is Proverbs 23, verses 1 through 3, I think somewhere thereabouts. You know, white bread has always been around. The wealthy, the royalty, they wanted fluffier bread and they found a way.   And they knew that they could make these sieves, if you would, out of reeds, and they would sift the bran and germ out to produce fluffier bread. But only the wealthy could afford that. Two reasons.   Only the wealthy could afford servants or slaves or bakers, you know, to bake their bread for them. That was the royalty. But then also the poor people, when they sift the bran and germ away, they lose about 25% of the flour.   So, for 100 bag of grain or, you know, 100 pounds of grain, you are going to end up with 75 pounds of flour, 25 pounds of bran and germ. They couldn't give that up. You know, they couldn't just throw away, discard that food source.   So, they ate what was called dirty bread or peasant bread or whatever that we now pay extra money to get back to. But, you know, when I started milling and I read Proverbs 23 in a different light, because what happened with the steel rolling mills, when the white flour came on the scene for the first time in the history of the world, which you won't read about this in a history book, white bread, white flour became food for rich and poor alike. And that's why we began to see sickness and disease.   The wealthy had it. And, you know, the royalty had it. But Proverbs 23 says, “Be careful when you sit down to the king's table. Do not crave his dainties and his delicacies.” And I always thought that might be things like, you know, squid or, you know, eyeballs or foods that caviar, you know, things that we couldn't afford. But dainties and delicacies to me now describes white flour, fluffy things, bread and pastries and cakes.   So, God says don't crave his dainties and delicacies. They are deceitful food. And it even says put a knife to your throat lest you be given the gluttony.   We talked last time about bread. People thinking, you know, gaining weight. Well, you know, the white flour dainties and delicacies.   Yes, they lead to gluttony. So that was one that really came to mind. And then, of course, Isaiah 55 verse two. “Why do you spend your money for that which is not bread and your earnings for what does not satisfy?” And so, I always thought, oh, Lord, I didn't know it wasn't bread. You know, I didn't know that's what I was spending my money on.   But just a few weeks ago, I was thinking about that verse again in a little different light. Like He was saying, why are you spending your money for that which is not bread? We're spending all this money moving away from bread on food, the keto, the fat, the all these the meat.   You know, we're spending our money on all these things that aren't bread. They don't satisfy like bread does. So that was a little different light.   Yes, on the one hand, what I thought I was spending my money on. I didn't know it wasn't bread. But then now all these anti-bread, anti-grain diets.   Why are you God saying, why are you spending your money on all of that on and your earnings for what does not satisfy? So that was a little different light on that picture. And of course, then Haggai chapter one, verse five says, “You sow much, but you reap little you eat, but no one is full. You drink, but you never have enough. And he who earns wages, earns it to put it in a bag with holes in it.” And you may be going, how does that relate to bread?   We spend all this money on food, and I air quotes “food stuff” that is taking our health away, making us sick. To me, that's a bag with holes in it. Because then what do we spend the rest of our money on health care, medicine, whatever.   So those were some, some pretty profound scriptures that God showed me. And 1 Timothy 4:1-3. It says that the Holy Spirit declares that on the last day, some will turn away from the faith and pay attention to deceitful spirits.   And listen to these doctrines of demons. This is the scripture saying this misled by the hypocrisy of liars who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods, which God has created to be gratefully shared by those who believe and have a clear knowledge of the truth. That's pretty powerful.   That's pretty powerful because you can grill yourself a steak. You can eat an apple all by yourself. You can eat fruits and vegetables all by yourself.   You're not going to make one roll. You're not going to make one piece of bread. Bread was made to be shared. And even the word companion means with bread. Did you ever think about that? So, um, that's, that's pretty powerful that in the end times and, you know, wherever you are with that, but we have to believe that there are teachings that are teaching us to for, you know, to not eat foods that God created to be shared and bread is at the top of that list.   So those are some powerful bread scriptures that that have just ministered to me. There's, there's just so many, you know, and Jesus John 6:35, I typically sign my book that way. Jesus says, “I am the real bread of life. And he who comes to me shall be satisfied” in Isaiah 61. That's a verse the Lord gave me so many years ago. And, you know, most people know it, the spirit of the Lord God is upon me because he's anointed me to preach the gospel, you know, and I'll never forget.   I had the great privilege of sharing the gospel one time, which is not something I normally do. And at a women's homeless shelter in Atlanta, and I saw in seven or eight people after I shared gave their life to the Lord. And I was like, oh, this is what I want to do.   I don't want to talk constipation and poop anymore. And surely it's not important. And I really got kind of down about it.   I was like, yes, I want to go share the gospel. This can't be important. And a couple of days later, after that wonderful, glorious experience, I mean, I literally wanted to go hand tracks out on the street corner.   I just wanted to be one of those people. And I was supposed to be going to speak at a women's Bible study, giving my what my children lovingly call mom's poop talk. And I got up and I was like; I didn't want to do it.   And I just cried out to the Lord. I was like, I don't want to talk poop anymore. There's so much more in me besides this.   And surely this can't be important. And again, cried out to the Lord. Again, just turned to my regular Bible reading.   And my verse of the day on my calendar was Isaiah 61, one through three or four, whatever it is. The spirit of the Lord God is upon you. He's anointed and qualified me to preach the gospel.   And I was like, yes. And it says to bind up and heal the broken heart. And I was like, yes, that was those ladies.   I know this is what you want me to do. And then it said, proclaim Liberty to the captives. And in my Amplified version in parentheses, it said spiritual and physical.   And what God spoke so to my heart, he goes, the message that I'm sending you to speak today is to set my people physical captives free. He said, my people aren't spiritually captive. Their physical captives held in captivity by every kind of sickness, disease, snotty nose, constipation, irritable bowel, diverticulitis, whatever.   Big ones and little ones, you know, health issues. And that I got up and I just renewed my passion. And I was like, okay, Lord, this is what you've called me to do.   So that was that was the real game changer. It kind of a game changer for me. I was beginning to see the unimportance of it.   And now, after all these years, I mean, when people hug you and with tears in their eyes, sorry, and tell you that you that you're teaching save their life. Now, I know what God was talking about. And I still love to share the gospel.   I still love to teach the word. And I know God's anointed me to do that as well. But this is definitely where God has called me.   And another time when I was out speaking, he shared and I was, you know, kind of questioning. And it says in Matthew, when the multitudes, when Jesus saw the multitudes coming to him to heal him, you know, to seek healing. It says he had compassion on them because they were harassed, distressed, bewildered and helpless and dejected like sheep without a shepherd.   And it said, and then he goes on to say, and he's telling his disciples, the harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. And he spoke to me then and he said, the laborers are few. There's not many out there at that time.   There were not many people out there teaching what I teach, teaching other things, maybe, but not about the bread, real bread. So those have been some life-changing scriptures that have just given me a heart and a passion to keep going. And then, of course, it's the bread stories that just come.   Laura Dugger: (11:49 - 12:19) So it's incredible. So profound. And I'm with you.   I love the Amplified version. Yes. You've supplied us with so much knowledge today and last week.   But now I'd love to move on to the wisdom portion, which is learning how to apply what we now know. So Sue, if we're just getting started, what equipment do we need? And then how is that going to be possible for us to incorporate it into our lives?   Sue Becker: (12:20 - 17:03) So like I said last time, I think we ended with keep it simple. Grain mill, top of the list. I once heard a lady.   She taught a little bit on milling, too. And she said, “I tell everybody you want to change the health of your family. Start with a grain mill.”   And like I say, over and over, I have never seen one dietary change make such profound and extensive, immediate, noticeable, across the board health benefits. So start with a grain mill and you don't have to have a barn. You don't have to have a live by a creek and a gristmill and all of that.   It will sit right on your counter. And still today, after 34 years of milling my own grain, my grain mill still has prime real estate on my counter. And it's the most valuable kitchen tool in my kitchen.   I love the Wonder Mill particularly. We do sell other mills. The NutriMill is a great mill as well.   I like the stainless steel milling heads because they're fast, they're very clean, and they just get the job done very quickly. Stone mills have gotten very trendy and popular. We sell those as well.   They're slower, might be better for a smaller family. They do, you know, have a broader spectrum of from pre-cracking, cracking the grain to very fine flour. And that's why some people are attracted to that.   But if I want cracked grain or coarse ground grain, I just use my blender, which I don't think too many people don't have a blender. You know, we all have blenders. So that's an easy fix for me.   And it's just, to me, the micronizing or the stainless steel milling head mills, the Wonder Mill, the NutriMill, they're just so easy to use. Put them together. I mean, they just snap together, turn it on, pour the grain in.   There's no calibrating, no, you know, adjusting the milling heads and everything. They're just easy, and they're fast, and they mill a lot of flour at once. So if you have a large family like mine, you know, I milled 12 cups of flour in less than a minute by the time I've got my other ingredients ready.   So that's top of your list. And then you're going to have to have some kind of grain. So, like I said, that was the next thing people go, where do I get grain?   And I'm like, well, I guess we need to sell grain, too. So we sell just about every kind of grain or bean here at Bread Beckers. We sell it in food-grade plastic buckets so that it is storable.   You want to keep your grain protected from moisture and bugs and, of course, rodents. So it's grown outside, so there could be bugs undetected in your grain that you might buy in a bag or something like that. But it's really important to protect your investment.   Hard wheat is going to be your grain for yeast bread. So we have hard red and hard white. We do sell also kamut and spelt.   Like my sourdough bread I've got working on right now is a combination of kamut and red wheat, which is one I really, really like. But those are more ancient grains. Those are in the bread-making category of wheat, so you could do that.   And then if you know you're going to make cakes and cookies and things like that, I highly recommend getting some soft wheat. Well, we get ours is grown in Montana, but they have to irrigate to make it soft wheat, so it is grown. We do have a soft red wheat that is grown here in Georgia that we sell and then a soft white wheat that we also sell.   And that's good for your cakes, cookies, brownies, biscuits, things like that. And then corn, mill your own corn. You've never tasted cornbread until you mill your own.   These are just easy quick bread recipes. You can find them all in my book, The Essential Home-Ground Flour Book. So that's it.   And then, of course, basic list of getting started items. Beyond that, you might already have oil. We use extra virgin olive oil.   That's just my oil of choice. There's some other sunflower seed oil, grapeseed oil, avocado oil. Those are good oils.   I just don't need another oil. We import our olive oil from Greece, and it is truly extra virgin olive oil. Unfortunately, the olive oil industry is not very reputable, so you have to know what you're getting.   And we actually were able to visit the olive oil factory and I guess you call them orchards, the fields, two years ago. And that was really great. It's Creighton Mills.   It's a fifth-generation family-owned olive oil company and very, very reputable. And so we know that what we're getting is truly extra virgin. Yeah, you had a question?   Laura Dugger: (17:04 - 17:13) Yeah, just with that, because it is such a corrupt industry, can you elaborate a little bit more about what's special about that?   Sue Becker: (17:13 - 21:07) Yeah, so to be labeled or designated extra virgin olive oil, it has to have a percent acidity. And I do have a podcast on my Sue's Healthy Minutes, “The Fact About Fats”, and I explain what that means. It's not a pH, but it's a percent acidity of 0.8%. And that's a measurement of the, and I'll go into more detail in my podcast, but simply it's just a measurement of the amount of oxidation of those fatty acids that are found in the olives that has taken place. So, 0.8 means that it's a measurement of how much there. And so, it has to meet that requirement to be extra virgin olive oil. Anything less than that is just better and better, you know.   So, our olive oil, excuse me, from the Isle of Crete is where our olive oil comes from in Greece. The basic one we have, the Agrelia, they guarantee that it's 0.8 or less. Most of the time it's 0.5. Then we have one that's 0.2 and so on. And we do have a certified organic. The problem is, and I know not everybody's going to run out and get their olive oil from us, but here's what you want to look for. You want to look for an olive oil that is bottled in the country of origin.   Because the disreputable oil companies, when they bring the olive oil in in barrels and take it, it might be checked there at the dock or whatever. But then when they take it to their factory and bottle it, no one pays attention there. So, they are mixing it with other oils oftentimes.   We used to sell oil that was labeled extra virgin cold pressed olive oil. We had it tested and the results came back that it was less than 1% olive oil. So that tells you it's, you know, the oils you're buying on the shelf, chances are if they're bottled here in America.   Now that I know California makes some. There's actually an olive oil company in South Georgia around Vidalia. They've learned that olives will grow there very well.   And so there's some reputable companies in the United States. So, you know, you just need to know your company. But typically, if it comes from another country and bottled here, you might need to be cautious about that.   So, yeah. So that's what you need to look for. So, I love olive oil.   Contrary to what people try to say that they are selling other oils, olive oil has a perfectly fine smoke point. And you can fry in it. I stir fry in it.   I fry my doughnuts in it. You can take it up to 400 degrees without any issues at all. I do use coconut oil from time to time.   If I'm trying to make something non-dairy, you know, I'll use it in place of butter. But then I also use real butter. So those are my fats that I look for.   And like I said, there's, you know, grapeseed oil is fine. Avocado oil is fine. I think we do sell an avocado oil.   But I don't need a lot of other. Those three, olive oil, coconut oil, and butter are just fine. Yeah.   Okay. And then raw unpasteurized honey. I sweeten my bread with honey and bake with honey if honey will work.   And in most places it will. Where it gets a little tricky working with honey is cakes and cookies and brownies, things like that. I tell people things that have more sugar than flour, you might want to eat in moderation.   And that's where, you know, some alternatives, less refined sweeteners. And we use honey granules and sucanat products for brown sugar and white sugar. So those are just some simple things.   Laura Dugger: (21:08 - 24:17) And now a brief message from our sponsor.   With over 28 years of experience in real estate, Sue Neihouser of the Sue Neihouser Team is a RE-MAX agent of Central Illinois. And she loves to walk alongside her clients as they unlock new doors.   For anyone local, I highly recommend you call Sue today at 309-229-8831. And you can ask her any real estate questions. 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So, call her today at 309-229-8831 or visit her website at sueneihouser.com.    Thanks for your sponsorship.   I'd love to go into a few of the other ingredients but first if we're even just thinking of the grain ideally we would get to come and visit you and get it from you. We've gone through all the steps.   But if we live elsewhere, two questions. How would we start a co-op so that we could have grain or how do we find out if one's already in our area? And then also are there any fear of glyphosate or any other issues with grain?   Sue Becker: (24:17 - 32:44) Oh wow, that's a loaded question. So, first of all, let's just say if you don't live close to us, we ship buckets of grain every day. UPS, we do.   But the shipping is quite expensive. UPS does not care about the cost of the product. They care about the weight.   And so, once we get it boxed up in the box that we have to ship it in, it's 49 pounds. So, it can cost anywhere from $25 to $30 just in shipping for that bucket of grain. Our grain prices are still very competitive, a lot less than a lot of people out there.   And we do carbon dioxide package our buckets of grain. So, we guarantee that they are bug free. You don't have to put your grain in the freezer.   You don't have to put diatomaceous earth or bay leaves. We've already done it. That's what the carbon dioxide gas has done.   And once it does its job, it's done its job. It doesn't matter now if you open the bucket and go in and out, in and out, in and out. But we realized back, I think I shared our Joseph vision of providing God's people with grain.   Way back, we started something called co-ops. As we traveled and spoke, people would ask that very question. Okay, great.   I'm buying the grain from you now, but what do I do when you leave? You know, I'm in Richmond, Virginia. I'm in Miami, Florida or Orlando, whatever.   So, we developed co-ops. And you can go on our website, breadbeckerscoop.com, and find co-ops in your area. And what that is, we have a coordinator, some person that kind of handles and facilitates the ordering.   If you join a co-op that's the closest to you, you'll get on, you know, there's no cost to join. And you're never obligated to order. If you don't need to order in that cycle, that's fine.   We deliver to each area four times a year. I'm sorry, three times a year, every four months. And so, you'll get an email saying your ordering window is this month.   So, you order, say, in August for a September delivery or June for a July delivery. And everybody's on a schedule. We have them grouped together.   And then you can order as much or as little as you want. And it greatly reduces the shipping cost per bucket. And you typically get a discount for ordering with the co-op as a group.   So that's a great advantage of a co-op. If you can't find one in your area, then email support@breadbeckers.com, and we'll send you the information of starting a co-op in your area. Pretty much all you have to do, because it's pretty streamlined, when people order they just go online, order, and pay us.   But then it's put together as your co-op. And you just have to facilitate the delivery and then making sure everybody knows to come get their product from you. But that's the way it works.   So that would be a great opportunity to get grain and whatever. And like I said, we ship anything on our website you can get through the co-op, most everything, really, really saves on shipping. And then we have certified organic grain here.   And, of course, it can have no chemical, herbicides, pesticides, fertilizers used at all. Contrary to what you may read and hear and see on the internet, wheat is not genetically modified, not at all. Now it was approved for testing and trials last year in August, but up until that point none at all was here in the United States.   And it's still in the trial and testing. I'm praying that it never comes out on the commercial market. But right now, there is no genetically modified wheat, especially that we offer or that's offered out there commercially.   That being said, that means wheat is not roundup ready. If it was sprayed with glyphosate, it would kill the plant. Now, non-organic farmers can use it on their soil to kill, you know, whatever's been growing.   So pre-planting, then once they harvest it, they can use it after harvest. So, there is an issue with, you know, using glyphosates in our non-organic farming techniques. It is very uncommon, contrary to what you hear people say, for a wheat farmer to use roundup or glyphosate as a desiccant to harvest their grain.   It's very, very uncommon in the United States. Colder climates where there's a chance they might lose it to bad weather or whatever, they may. But even still there's other things they prefer to do instead of that because that's expensive.   It's not cheap. You know, you're talking 30,000-acre farms, these, you know, big wheat farmers. So, it's very, very uncommon.   And you can even find that information on the USDA website, that it's less than 3% ever use it like that. Now, like I said, there are other crops and farmers that use it pre and post harvest, but we're very comfortable with our grain suppliers. Most of our wheat comes from Montana.   It's cold. And they still practice pretty traditional farming methods, tilling things under and planting cover crops and things like that. But if you're really, really concerned, then buy certified organic.   I mean, you know, for the price difference, yes, I think it's like $12, but that's for 42 pounds of grain. So, you know, but like I said, we are very comfortable with our farmers, with our suppliers. Our oat supplier says that they spot check and make sure that, you know, no glyphosate is used even on their non-organics.   I think the problem with there, and people are going to say, oh, yeah, but they tested all these cereals and these oat products and found that they all had residual glyphosate. You've got to remember; those are your big food companies. Those are your big pharma, your big, the other pharma, F-A-R-M-E, you know, M-A.   There's no telling, you know, what they do. But, you know, glyphosate use is a significant issue. I want people to understand that.   But it's more in the farming techniques of desiccating after harvest, instead of used to farmers after harvest, the stubbles all there and corn stalks are all there. They would till it all under and then that would decay and, you know, help nourish the soil. Now they're going in, and this is non-organic farming, they're going in and spraying the fields and then just using seed drills.   Not as prevalent, I don't believe, with wheat, but it is used a lot with soybeans, corn, what else, cotton. Cotton is really bad. And there's not a lot you can do.   I mean, we just have to stay informed. But I hate it when I see people passing on misinformation about making it sound like it's just a blanket procedure that's done of desiccating these massive wheat fields, you know. And I've seen pictures; people will show them dead in the field.   Well, the wheat turns very golden and dries out, you know, before harvest. And then once they harvest it, it dies right there in the field. So, it's just kind of a misnomer.   But when in doubt, buy organic. So there. But, you know, I tell people if you're going to avoid toxins and glyphosate the way it's being used in our country today, you would basically have to never leave your house, go naked and probably never eat any food at all, you know.   And think about like lawns and golf courses and things like that. If you live around that, you're being exposed a good bit. So, wheat is actually detoxifying.   So, it passes through the body absorbing toxins. So, I think you're safe with wheat and, you know. But again, buy organic if you're concerned.   Laura Dugger: (32:45 - 32:57) Love that explanation. And then because I think of the other ingredients and bread and even the offerings that you have, what should we be aware of when it comes to salt and emulsifiers?   Sue Becker: (32:58 - 36:23) Yeah. So salt is something I studied later, you know, after I, you know, I, it made sense why they started, you know, separating the bran and germ from the flour too. So, the flour wouldn't spoil, but I'm like, salt doesn't spoil.   Why would they refine salt and do some digging and do some research and you find that natural mined mineral salt has trace minerals that we need, but it's the sodium chloride that makes the salty flavor. So, they, they have learned that they can extract those trace minerals out of the mind mineral salt and sell that to other industries for minerals and leave us with the sodium chloride and it's perfectly salty. So why not do that?   And then so that it will rain, well, it will, you know, “when it rains, it pours” the, you, you're probably too young to know that slogan, but that was a big one when I was growing up. They heat treat the salt so that it does not readily absorb moisture. So the crystals are harder so that when it rains or it's humid, it will pour unlike your unrefined salt that will tend to clump up if it's humid.   So that's what started happening to our salt. And I didn't believe this, but I did just a few weeks ago, go to the store because I haven't bought salt in years. Cause I get it.   We sell Redmond's natural mined mineral salt that comes from Utah, but I went to the store and sure enough, they put anti-caking agents sometimes in some of the brands of salt, dextrose, which is a sugar. Who would have thought that? And just know that you know, the heat treatment is makes it where it doesn't readily absorb moisture.   So that's why you tend to hold fluids when you eat a lot of salty foods. So, it's trying to help your body be able to utilize it. And while we're on salt, I hear a lot of people, they'll ask me, can I make the bread without salt?   My doctors put me on a low salt diet. First of all, that's concerning, but I want to say to you, just getting rid of processed foods, it will greatly diminish your sodium intake from bread to they have, you know, when things are so denatured that they, you know, they smash it, they cook it, they boil it, they take all this out and that out. Well, then it's flavorless.   So, they have to sweeten it and salt it to make you want to even buy it again. So, if you look at ingredient or not ingredient labels, but nutrition labels on processed foods, and I'm talking canned fruits, vegetables, bread products, and all these things, you will see that the sodium levels are much higher than the potassium levels. Well, in nature, that is not the way it is in, in your fresh fruits and vegetables.   Your potassium level is typically twice your sodium level where, so read your labels on your food and you'll see that sodium is typically twice the potassium in processed foods. So that's what I encourage people. You know, you can make bread without salt.   You probably won't like it. It'll be kind of tasteless. If you need to read, if you feel more comfortable reducing the amount of salt, then do that.   But most importantly, quit eating processed foods. That's going to greatly reduce your salt intake and then use a natural mind mineral salt that your body can utilize. So that's salt.   What was the other thing?   Laura Dugger: (36:24 - 36:25) Emulsifier.   Sue Becker: (36:25 - 40:36) Raw unpasteurized honey is what I use. I recommend. And then the emulsifier.   I think you must be talking about lecithin. Lecithin is totally an optional ingredient. You can make great bread without lecithin, but I'm going to tell you, you can make really great bread by adding a little bit of lecithin to your bread dough.   It's a natural emulsifier. It is what's called a phospholipid. It has an acetylcholine that is what it's made of.   And it, it, what it does in your body, it breaks down fat and cholesterol into small enough particles that can get through your capillary wall and into your bloodstream and into your cells and your tissue. It is found in any type of unrefined food that has oil. So, your eggs, your milk, your oils, your unrefined keyword, unrefined oils, and guess where else?   Grains and beans. It's in the, the germ portion of your grains and beans. And that is the nutrient that even without adding it to your bread, it is there already.   And that's the nutrient that I discovered brought brings down cholesterol, blood level cholesterol, because, and somebody kind of argued when I said that one time and I'm like, no, no, no, no. I didn't say cholesterol was bad. Cholesterol is not a bad guy.   I like the way one biochemist puts it. She said, it's just the pig that got stuck in the barn door. It actually does.   It gets stuck in our blood vessels because its big fat molecules are typically big. We need that lecithin in unrefined foods that have oil grains being one of those. And one of the most nutrient dense ones is, is your grains and beans and sources of lecithin, so it breaks those down into small enough particles so that they can get out of our blood and into our tissues and our cells where it is so needed.   Cholesterol is a precursor of just about all your sex hormones, all your anti-inflammatory hormones that your body can make. If it has lecithin it helps vitamin D be converted. The sunshine be converted to vitamin D and our body and it makes; it's a part of the fat and protein layer of every cell in your body.   The cell membrane of every cell in your body. So, it's very, very important to get that cholesterol out of the blood into the cell. So that's lecithin okay.   That was a lot of information. What does it do to our bread? The very same thing it does in your body.   It breaks the oil down. You've all heard the saying oil and water don't mix. Well, it breaks the oil down so that it is small enough particles.   So, it will go mix into your dough a little better and it will make your dough very smooth, very silky. It will make your bread so very soft. And it's the same.   It's the reason they use it in the food industry. They put it in salad dressings so that oil and vinegar will, will mix and stay mixed a little bit better. They started using it in the margarine industry because they're mixing milk and, and milk fats and water.   So, they put the lecithin in there. Now I'm not saying don't eat margarine. That's not what I said.   They put it in Reese's peanut butter cups. That's what makes that chocolate so smooth and creamy. I'm not saying don't eat Reese's peanut butter cups to get your lecithin, but I'm just explaining that's what it does.   It's in your body and outside of your body and your food, and it will make your bread and rolls so soft. And we actually learned when we had a bakery years ago that it helps your bread retain moisture. It keeps it from drying out so quickly. But it's one of those things in Haiti and Tanzania, they don't make bread with lecithin that's an expense that we don't need. But if you want some really, really soft bread and really help my tortilla dough be really smooth and silky and make those tortillas just press out really well. So that's, that's why we use it there.   You can use an egg has lecithin as well. I use both an egg and lecithin, and I have really, really soft bread. So just depends on what you're going for.   I don't typically put it in my sourdough cause that's a different texture. And I don't typically put oil in my sourdough bread.   Laura Dugger: (40:36 - 41:26) So yeah, it just depends on what you're doing there. Okay. That's so good to know.   And with the fresh milled grain, I know that it loses nutritional value each day. And I think you've recommended don't let it go more than three days. You'll have to discard it if you don't use it in that time.   And it makes me just wonder, then I'm going to link to a previous episode that we did on preparing food for our family, because one of the practices I'm thinking of was whatever you're making, make double and freeze half. So, Sue, I'm curious then with the nutritional value, if the freshly milled grain that we use as the flour is used in our baked goods or our bread, but then we put it in the freezer to be consumed at a later time. Does that compromise any of the nutritional value?   Sue Becker: (41:27 - 45:57) Right? Not in, not that I have read and studied what we have to know that as soon as that grain is milled into flour, then now you've exposed the nutrients, the oil and all these to the air and oxidation begins to take place. You might not see it in flour, but you've all seen it in a banana or apple.   You cut it, it starts turning dark right away. So, there's a lot of discrepancy and different viewpoints out there on how long that flour until the flour spoils. Well, that would be kind of like that apple is not spoiled, but definitely oxidation has taken place.   So, years ago, I read some information that in the first day, you can lose as much as 45% by the third day, maybe as much as 90%. I don't, I don't have that information anymore. You know, I never thought I'd be speaking and teaching, so I don't quote it a lot, but I did contact a university, and they said most of the oxidation is going to take place in those first few days after milling.   So exact numbers they didn't give me. But now I will say this, I would never throw flour away. So, I'm not going to say it's bad for you.   And some people say six months to a year is the shelf life of that flour. You're not going to lose your protein. You're not going to lose your fiber.   It's still probably the most nutrient dense flour that you can use and buy. But I will say this, your best bet is once the bread is baked from everything I have studied, the nutritional loss is minimal. So, if you need to make bread ahead, have a baking day, then bake your bread, freeze your bread or whatever you need to do so that it, most of the time, my bread will last for five or six days.   Well, I say it won't mold in that time. Most of the time we eat it before then. So that would, that would be your best bet.   Also storing bread, you want to either freeze it or leave it at room temperature. You don't want to store bread at refrigeration in the refrigerator. It will dry it out and cause it to go stale.   Now, of course, if you have meat or something like that in there that needs to be refrigerated, of course, refrigerated muffins, little higher moisture. So, if you're not going to eat those in the, in a day or two or three, they, they might mold. So put them in the refrigerator.   I have learned a little trick with storing muffins, put a paper towel in the container, either the bag or the container that you're storing them in. It'll really keep them from turning gooey. And of course, always let your bread muffins, whatever completely cool before you package them.   But I never throw flour away. If typically, I travel with a grain mill or with bread, if I'm going on a short trip where I'm not taking my mill or whatever with me, then I'll, I'll take bread with me camping. Our family used to camp one.   Can't take my milk. We did more primitive camping, can't tent camping, can't take my mill with me. So, I would mill up a pail of flour to make pancakes and, and things, you know, while we were camping.   So, we would camp a week. I'm certainly not going to go home. I can't use this.   It's older than three days. So, it's not going to hurt you to go that long, but it's, it's the best is mill the flour, bake your bread, mill your flour when you're ready to do your baking and then freeze or store or whatever. But sometimes that's not always possible.   We went snow skiing a few years ago and we did take the bread machine. We went with my daughter and her family and we took, we opted to take the bread machine and we just milled flour and put it in a pail and we made bread every day. So, we couldn't take both.   So, we did it that way. So certainly there's, there's, there's options. So, yeah, but I never throw flour away.   And if I, if I happened to over mill and I have, you know, some charts that show you about how much grain to mill to get, how much flour. So, I rarely over mill, but sometimes you mill and go, Oh, I can't, you know, emergency have to leave. I would bag it, put it in the refrigerator and just try to use it, you know, as first before you use other things.   Or if I have a little bit leftover, I'll keep it in the refrigerator and use it to dust my countertop or whatever, when I'm rolling my bread or dump it in my, you know, with a big batch of bread I'm using and just not worry about it. But 90% of the bread, no more than that, probably 99% of the bread I eat. I mill the flour, make the bread or the muffins or the pancakes or whatever.   Laura Dugger: (45:57 - 47:00) So I'm so grateful for that clarification. I definitely have information. So that is awesome.   I just wanted to let you know, there are now multiple ways to give when you visit TheSavvySauce.com. We now have a donation button on our website and you can find it under the donate page, which is under the tab entitled support. Our mailing address is also provided.   If you would prefer to save us the processing fee and send a check that is tax deductible, either way, you'll be supporting the work of Savvy Sauce Charities and helping us continue to reach the nations with the good news of Jesus Christ. Make sure you visit TheSavvySauce.com today. Thanks for your support.   So, let's say we've gathered our ingredients. We've made our first recipe. How long does it typically take to experience the benefits from this lifestyle change?   And just to recap, what are some of the health benefits that you may experience?   Sue Becker: (47:01 - 58:28) Well, bowel issues are going to be corrected pretty quickly. For me, constipation was my issue. It was done first day, I ate bread.   Like I said, poop the next morning. A lot of people go, oh, constipation is not my problem. I'm going five times a day or 10 times a day.   So that's more irritable bowel, spastic colon or chronic diarrhea. That may take a week to 10 days to correct, but we've seen people very quickly correct those bowel issues. So, bowel issues are probably the number one, the fastest that you might see.   And I, I, you, I love this story that I tell on a lady, and I used to year. I've been telling it for about 20 years. And I used to call her an older lady, but I'm older than she is.   Then she was then when I called her an older lady. So, this very young lady, she was the mother of a customer of ours. And the customer was her and her husband were missionaries and they were here on furlough.   And she came into the store. Her mother lived in Boston, I believe. And she said, Sue, my mother's having a terrible time.   She it's been on steroids for 10 years for her bowel issues. That you should never do that. And she said, but every time they try to wean her off, she has horrible issues.   She now has bleeding bowels. She can't sleep through the night. She's getting up five times in the night to go to the bathroom.   She can't leave her house. and I hear this a lot. I've had a fella gave testimonies, construction worker.   He goes, “Do you know what? The number one thing I have to find out when I go to check on the job, I have to know where the port-a-john is. I, cause I have to go.”   So anyway, back to this story. They, you know, And she was going to go to the hospital. And that was right about the time.   The gluten-free stuff was coming out. And she said, so she's been told maybe you need to go gluten-free. And she came in and, As a missionary budget, limited budget.   And I said, “You know what? Our ministry will give your mother a grain mill.” She was going.   The daughter was going to spend two weeks with her. And she goes, I'll teach her how to make bread. She thought about it for a minute.   And she goes, I do not know how to make gluten-free bread. Just give me a bucket of red wheat. It can't hurt her.   She's already got bleeding bowels. and if it makes it worse, we'll just stop. She emailed me and said in five days of real bread, her mother was sleeping through the night, no longer having the bowel episodes.   In two weeks while they were there, everything had normalized and her mother had her life back. That's pretty amazing. So, you're gonna see bowel issues correct pretty, pretty quickly.   We've seen that so many times. And then for me, sinus congestion, when your bowels are moving. And we talked about toxins in your colon, sitting in your colon.   We talked about the cancer relationship. But another thing that a lot of people don't realize, what's dumped in your colon and your bowels to be eliminated every day is the stuff your body doesn't want. It's toxic waste, whatever.   And if it's not eliminated every day, it's gonna sit there and get absorbed into your body. And one of your body's reaction to toxins is to make mucus so you can blow it out your nose or cough it up. You know, think about it logically.   When we get sick with a cold or a flu, that organism has made a toxin that our body is trying to get rid of. So, we make all this mucus and that's why you get congestion and you sneeze and you're coughing, you know, so your body can get rid of it. Well, what I learned when I realized I was no longer congested, I started studying.   I was like, how is this happening? Well, that's what I learned, that now that my bowels were dumping and eliminating toxins out of my body every day, I was no longer getting that toxic response of the excess mucus. My body was doing what it needed.   I no longer needed the antihistamines and the decongestants. So that was a big one for me. Of course, the wart story is pretty amazing.   People laughed at me when I told that in the beginning. I knew that it was the bread, that one of my children's warts that he had had for three years went away in the first month. And I discovered that it was the vitamin E that protects every cell in our body and from lots of things, but from being compromised by oxidation.   And if your cell is compromised, it is more susceptible to viral invasion. Viruses are caused by warts. So now that our body, the richest food source of vitamin E is wheat, but it has to be freshly milled.   So now our body was now getting this abundant source of vitamin E, which by the way, we had our bread tested. And one slice provides 100% of your daily vitamin E need. Wow.   Now, I don't necessarily agree with the daily requirement, but still one slice, which no amount of vitamin E was ever put back in enriched bread. But anyway, so I knew that this was the vitamin E protecting the cells and making us less susceptible to viral invasion. And my son's warts went away that he had had for years and in just the first month.   So, we tell that, I would tell that story. And we have now hundreds of wart stories, hundreds of wart stories. The most profound one was lady heard me speak at a homeschool show.   I only have 45 minutes to speak at a homeschool show. And I'm like, woo, a lot of information in that. So, I talk really, really fast.   And sometimes I share this and sometimes I don't. I started to skip my wart story. The Lord, the Holy Spirit just had me stop, tell my wart story.   And I finished that day a little earlier than normal. I never finish early. And I just said, well, you know, does anybody have anything to share?   Two people shared their wart stories. Unbeknownst to me, mom was in my class, walking down the hall to go to another class because there's lots of workshops at these shows, you know. And the Lord told her to come in mine.   There, when I left the room, she was standing outside and told me that. She with tears in her eyes said that she had been praying that God would send her an answer that her daughter had over 500 warts on her. She had had them for, since she was 12 years old, she was now 17.   They had had them all burned off, which they didn't treat the virus. So, they all came back, of course. They had been on different medications.   She goes; they currently have her on ulcer medication saying that maybe it's caused by stress. Okay, so she follows me back to our table where we're making bread. She eats the bread.   She goes, it's delicious. She goes how much is a mill? I told her and she goes; I've paid more than that for one prescription drug that didn't work.   What have I got to lose? I like to cook. We have to eat.   We'll see. Two and a half weeks, two and a half weeks, every wart on that child's body was gone. She had her life back.   She was ashamed. She was embarrassed that she had these nasty patches of warts on her. She wouldn't wear shorts.   She wouldn't swim in public with her friends because she was embarrassed and ashamed. And so that's more than just a wart story. And I tell that the wart story because, I mean, like I said, we have hundreds.   One little girl prayed that God would take her wart away and they heard about the bread and it went away, you know? And because here's my thought. If this bread can improve your resistance to a virus that causes warts that you've had for five, some people 10 years, what other viruses will it protect you from?   That's important to know. And that's what I saw with our, we rarely had colds. We rarely caught flus, you know, from other people.   Not saying we never did, but when we did, we got well very quickly and typically, you know, faster than others. Skin issues. Had a mom in here the other day just say that her, she said, we call your bread, the miracle bread.   Her son had eczema all behind his ears and on his arms, all cleared up. I had another young man come from; he had heard me speak. His wife heard me speak at a conference in Missouri.   They were traveling through, they came to a class, and he came up and said, “Can I hug you?” And I was like, “Well, sure, yeah, go ahead.” And he said, “My wife heard you speak.”   And he said, “what you didn't know is I had this rash on my body and it was stinging. It was burning. Doctor after doctor, medication, steroids, nothing ever helped.”   And he said, “It feels, it felt like fire ants burning me. Had it for years and nothing worked.” His wife heard me speak.   I don't know if she thought, made the correlation with pellagra. I don't know. But anyway, she bought the mill, bought the mixer.   She didn't say anything to me. And he said, within a month, the rash was completely gone. But here's one thing he said.   He goes, “It was so painful. I had gotten to the point where I wanted to die.” That's pretty significant.   And talk, you know, and now within a month, what doctors couldn't fix, the bread did, the nutrients, the B vitamins, the vitamin E, whatever else was in that bread cured his skin issues. And we hear psoriasis, people with psoriasis, it completely goes away in a matter of a few months. Depression, anxiety.   One little girl struggled with depression, and they told her to go gluten-free and it got worse. She was so fearful. She couldn't even sleep in her bedroom.   She had to sleep on the floor in her parents' room. And the mom with tears in her eyes said, within, they decided to not go gluten-free and to try freshly milling. And the little girl is happy and excited and has her life back.   So, I could go on and on and on. And we, you know, just the health of children is powerful to me. And we've seen heart disease.   God says in Psalm 104 that he gave man bread to strengthen and nourish the heart. We've had people say, I mean, well, one lady in particular, this was years ago, I wish I had taken her name to follow up with her, but she said her husband in one month and all she changed was the bread, came off the heart transplant list. She said, the doctor says he's not out of the woods yet, but his heart muscle is functioning so well, can't justify being on the heart transplant list.   And, you know, I read the works of Dr. Wilfred Schutt, world renowned cardiologist. Do you know what he used to treat heart disease? Vitamin E.   And in his book that has nothing to do with milling your own grain and making your own bread, do you know what he attributes heart disease to? When the white flour came on the scene and they started taking the bran and germ out of our flour. He said, we lost the most potent antithrombin, blood thinning and vitamin E for the strength of the heart muscle.   So yeah, we've seen a lot in 35 years or 34 years. It's been amazing. And people write and say, “I know you must get tired of hearing this.” I never get tired of hearing testimonies and stories. And I call them “it's the bread stories” because they tell me it's the bread that's all I've changed and this is what I've seen. And so, and it's, yeah, it's powerful.   Laura Dugger: (58:29 - 58:56) Well, I love because even before we recorded this conversation, we prayed that God would do more than we could ever ask or imagine. And I feel like that's what he has done with bread too. There's still so much more, but you're just to encapsulate a few things, the improved energy, the supported hormones, the ailments that are corrected, there's so much.   And if we want to get started, then can you remind us of your website and what our first step could be today?   Sue Becker: (58:56 - 1:00:59) Yeah, first step, buy a grain mill, buy some grain, start milling your bread. And if you're scared of yeast bread, then make muffins and make pancakes. Machines help, you might all have a mixer that you can go ahead and use to make your yeast breads, but muffins, pancakes, coffee cake, three of my basic ingredients, I mean, my recipes that I started with, that's a wire whisk in a bowl.   You don't need to knead; you don't need to worry about letting it rise. Buy the tools that help you make this a lifestyle. Bread machine, you might see the Zojirushi bread machine behind you, that, I mean, five minutes, mill the flour, five minutes, dump it in, all your ingredients, come back to a baked loaf of bread.   You know, push the start button, come back to a baked loaf of bread. Mixer, for my family, the mixer worked very well because I would mix up dough to make six to nine loaves of bread or six loaves of bread at a time. And I did that twice a week, interspersed with muffins, pancakes, and all of that.   So, keep it simple, get a grain mill, get some grain and get a recipe book that you enjoy and just dive in. You won't be sorry. Go to breadbeckers.com.   You can find a lot of information. Go to our YouTube channel, Bread Beckers YouTube channel. Lots of videos and how-tos and classes, our getting started classes on there.   There's a couple of videos, a basic list of getting started items where I explain to you the hard wheat, the soft wheat, the red wheat, the white wheat, and those things. And I highly recommend, it's a long video, it's three and a half hours long, but it's called Real Bread, the Staff of Life. You can watch it in segments.   Pause me if you need to come back later, but it's very profound information. It's 30 years of studying and research and gleaning the scriptures and science and textbooks. And then Instagram, follow us on Facebook and Instagram.   And then of course, Sue's Healthy Minutes podcast. You will be blessed by all the information there as well as the testimonies that are shared.   Laura Dugger: (1:01:00 - 1:01:19) Incredible. We'll add all of those links in the show notes for today's episode. And Sue, as you remember last time, we are called The Savvy Sauce because savvy is synonymous with practical knowledge or insight.   And so, as my final question for you again today, what is your savvy sauce?   Sue Becker: (1:01:19 - 1:04:32) So what I want to encourage people today is seek the truth. Use your common sense that God has given you. I want to read a quote by a doctor that promotes healthy living, but I want you to listen to what he says.   Here's the quote. “Damage to the gastrointestinal tract from the overuse of antibiotics, anti-inflammatory drugs like Advil or Aleve, acid blocking drugs, we talked about that last time, like Prilosec or Nexium, combined with our low fiber, high sugar diet leads to the development of celiac disease and gluten intolerance or sensitivity and the resultant inflammation.” Did you hear that?   I absolutely agree with that. All those things cause damage to the gastrointestinal tract and lead to allergies and things like that. “This is why,” now there's where I want you to listen and use your common sense.   “This is why the elimination of gluten can be a powerful way to prevent and reverse this and many other chronic diseases.” Next sentence. “The biggest problem is wheat, the major source of gluten in our diet.”   Did you hear wheat or gluten listed in his causes? No, you did not. He is making an illogical conclusion to his own truth that he just presented.   Wheat didn't cause that. Wheat can actually cure that. And you asked me about a verse that has meant so much to me and powerful, profound verse in the scripture, Deuteronomy 24:6.   In that scripture, it's the law. Sometimes you get bogged down in Deuteronomy. I will never forget when I stumbled, didn't stumble, but I was reading this verse and what God showed me.   In that chapter or in that verse, God gave a law for what you could take as a pledge when someone borrowed something from you. In those days, if someone was gonna borrow something, they would leave you with something of value of theirs as a pledge. I'm gonna return what I borrowed from you or I'm gonna pay you back or whatever.   Listen to God's law. He says, “Do not take a man's upper millstone as a pledge for you would be taking his life.” That is pretty profound.   Someone in the early 1900s took our milling stones, took our mills out of our home and we've been losing our health and our life ever since. Wheat is not the biggest problem. Wheat is the answer.   Freshly milled, of course. So contrary to popular belief, everything you read on the internet is not true. So, dig into God's word, find the discrepancy from what you're hearing in the world and what God's word says and let his truth rule and reign in your life.   That would be my advice.   Laura Dugger: (1:04:33 - 1:05:03) That is so good again, Sue, and thank you for getting mills back in our home and thank you for being my returning energetic and intelligent and faithful guest. You're so humble in your approach and you'r

279. What if this ONE nutritional upgrade changes everything: An Interview with Sue Becker   Proverbs 14:12 NIV "There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death."   *Transcription Below*   Sue Becker is a gifted speaker and teacher, with a passion to share principles of healthy living in an encouraging way.  She is the co-owner of The Bread Beckers and founder of the ministry, Real Bread Outreach, all dedicated to promoting whole grain nutrition. Sue has a degree in Food Science from UGA and is the author of The Essential Home-Ground Flour Book. Sue is a veteran home-schooling mom with 9 children and 15 grandchildren and 1 great-grandchild so far. She and her husband Brad, live in Canton, GA. Through her teaching, countless families have found improved health.   Sue's Instagram: @suebreadbeckers Sue's Website Sue's Podcast   Questions and Topics We Cover: Will you tell us about your professional background and share what led to a life-changing discovery?  In addition to helping us feel better, how can this swap also affect our weight? We are told gluten is the enemy, but you teach how wheat can actually be the cure, not the cause. . . Will you elaborate why even people who are sensitive to gluten can still enjoy this bread and experience greater health benefits because of it?   Related Episodes from The Savvy Sauce: 14 Simple Changes for Healthier Living with Leslie Sexton and Vasu Thorpe 26 Practical Tips to Eating Dinner Together as a Family with Blogger and Cookbook Co-Author, Rachel Tiemeyer 33 Pursuing Health with Functional Medicine Specialist, Dr. Jill Carnahan 129 Healthy Living with Dr. Tonya Khouri 205 Power of Movement with Alisa Keeton (Revelation Wellness) 212 School Series: Benefits of Homeschooling with Jodi Mockabee 256 Gut Health, Allergies, Inflammation and Proactive Solutions with Emily Macleod-Wolfe 261 Edible Theology with Kendall Vanderslice 270 Female Sex Hormones, Periods, and Perimenopause with Emily Macleod-Wolfe 275 Raising Healthy Kids: Free Tips with Emily Johnson   Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website   Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”   Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”   Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”    Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”    Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”    Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”    John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”   Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”    Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”   Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”   Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.”   Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”   Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“   Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“   Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”   *Transcription*   Music: (0:00 – 0:09)   Laura Dugger: (0:11 - 1:29) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here.   Have you heard about this one-of-a-kind experience, the Radiant Faith and Wellness event?   It's going to take place January 30th and 31st at the Cannery in Eureka. I hope you learn more or purchase your tickets on this website or check them out on Instagram at @radiantwellnessevent and make sure you stay tuned to find out what the code is so that you can purchase your discounted tickets.   Happy New Year everyone! I am so excited to get to kick off the year with one of the best episodes I can ever remember.   You are in for a treat today with my guest Sue Becker. She is going to enlighten us to the one achievable, easy-to-implement nutritional change that could change everything. Here's our chat.   Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Sue.   Sue Becker: (1:30 - 1:39) Thank you so much for having me. It is a real honor to be able to share my story, share my message with others that can listen and hear.   Laura Dugger: (1:40 - 1:56) Well, it may be one of the times I've most anticipated this conversation, but I'd love to just start by going back. Will you tell us about your professional background and share what led to a life-changing discovery?   Sue Becker: (1:56 - 14:21) Yes, yes. Well, it's a little bit of a long story, but I'll keep it as brief as possible. So, I always say, many years ago, headed off to the University of Georgia as a pre-med student because I loved studying everything about the human body and I wanted to help people and save the world, you know, all the grandiose ideas.   But my big passion was physiology and biochemistry. I loved studying that. Got there and realized, you know, I don't really want to be in school that long and I don't want that type of career after I graduate.   I knew my ultimate goal was to be a stay-at-home mom and I was like, okay, so why am I pursuing this? But I loved the field of study. And so changed my major, got accepted into pharmacy school, spent a quarter there and went, this isn't really what I want to do either.   So then I was led by the Dean of Pharmacy School to the field of food science, which was an up-and-coming industry at the time. I focused my attention more on the microbiology aspect of it and after graduation, I worked for Kraft Foods for almost five years as a bacteriologist in the lab there. I met my husband at the University of Georgia, and we married, actually, our senior year.   And so then, like I said, after I graduated, I started working for Kraft until I had my first child. I did become a mom, for sure. I have nine children, seven biological, two we adopted later in life, ranging in ages now from 45.   My oldest daughter doesn't like me to tell that, but it's too bad. It's what it is. 45 to 29, I believe Olivia is.   Yes, 29. And then I have 19 grandchildren and my very first great grandchild was born just a few weeks ago. So that's been a real blessing and a treat.   But after graduation, because I loved studying, it's funny, I tell everybody I'm a much better student now than I ever was in college. It's funny how you love to study once you don't have to perform with tests and things. But I continued studying physiology, biochemistry, read the works of prominent biochemists of the day and kind of came at everything with believing that we're fearfully and wonderfully made.   Our bodies know what they need and if they're not getting something they need, then chances are we're going to see sickness or lack of health. So, I kind of came at everything from that standpoint. It might be a little simplistic, but I think it's a great starting place.   So, I focused on feeding my family healthy food, you know, supplementing when we needed to. I tell people I grew up Southern. I grew up in a family of cooks and not chefs, but we cooked.   We ate real meat, real vegetables. My husband and I loved to garden. We grew our own corn and peas and beans and tomatoes and all the things.   So, we were eating real food. But we weren't a sickly family for sure, not compared to what others were, but we still had our share, our fair share. And so, we clipped along like this and I, in 1991, because of my interest in physiology, biochemistry, I subscribed to a publication, a health journal.   And the first publication that came into my home was entitled, "How to Greatly Reduce the Risk of Common Diseases." In this journal, the history of white flour was presented. Now, this was very eye-opening information.   Maybe I need to back up a little bit. The food science is not a nutrition degree. It's not a home economic degree.   It's the study of food processing. Everything that has to be done to keep that food safely on the shelf. Something's great. Something's not so great. So, when I read this information, I was like, how did I miss what's done to our bread? Through my studies, I had always read that whole wheat flour was better, but I didn't understand why.   So, in this journal, the history of white flour was presented. All the processing that is done to make that flour sit on the shelf forever, never really. And this is, like I said, what opened my eyes.   I learned that whole grains, real whole grains are the most nutrient-dense food God has given us. But in that journal, I learned that only when they're freshly milled, do they retain all their vital nutrients. You know, like I said, I had read that whole wheat flour was better.   I was trying to buy the stuff in the store, but it was kind of gross, nasty, I say. Didn't make nice bread, certainly not fluffy muffins. So, kind of gave up on that, trying to make bread with the store-bought whole grain flour.   And so, we were just buying whole wheat flour from the store. But I learned in that journal, it's not really what you think it is. And I, so like I said, I also, as a food scientist, what was so enlightening to me, when I read that word enrichment on the bags of flour or the bread products in the store, I thought, wow, we're making this better than it would have been, had we not done this favor.   I soon learned in this journal that that was not a favor that food companies are doing for us. They replace in their enrichment, a mere fraction of the nutrients that are there. And of course, I learned that once the flour is milled, I learned, well, let me, grains are storable, left whole and intact.   They store fairly indefinitely. But once that flour is, once that grain is milled into flour, it begins to spoil. The nutrients begin to oxidize.   So this led to the invention of these huge steel rolling mills that would take out the very nutrient rich bran, the oil laden germ that was causing the spoilage of the flour and leaving only the endosperm part, which is the white flour, protein and starch. Wonderful discovery. This flour won't spoil.   It'll sit on the shelf forever. And like I said, it looked like a wonderful discovery. And this all happened in the late 1800s, early 1900s.   By about 1910, the steel rolling mills had completely replaced the local millers because prior to the 1900s, most of the bread consumed in this country was either milled at home or the flour was purchased from a local miller. The bread was made at home and it was consumed at home. But with this invention, steel rolling, the steel rolling mills displaced the local millers, white flour, white bread became food now for everyone, rich and poor alike.   And can you imagine every housewife going, yay, I don't have to mill my flour anymore. I'll never forget years ago, Brad's 93-year-old grandfather lived with us for a little while. And I was in the kitchen milling some corn for cornbread.   And he went like this from his chair. He went, "I milled a lot of corn in my day." So, you can imagine people were like, hallelujah, we don't have to mill our flour.   But what seemed like an amazing, convenient, life-saving discovery actually turned out to not be so great. Shortly thereafter, the steel rolling mills and white flour became food for everybody. Three diseases became epidemic.   Beriberi, which is a vitamin B1 deficiency, it results in nervous disorders. Pellagra is a vitamin B3 or niacin deficiency, results in GI issues, skin issues, dementia, mental insanity. And that one really interested me because I did some more research on that and actually found out that the first case of pellagra was diagnosed right here in Atlanta, Georgia, which I'm from that area, you know, this area where our store in Woodstock is 35 miles north.   That first year 30,000 cases were diagnosed. Then anemia was the third disease. This puzzled health officials all over the country. They're like, what in the world is going on?   Why are we seeing this outbreak of diseases? And at first they thought beriberi and pellagra were maybe some type of infectious disease. But eventually they traced it to the new white flour that was on the market and the missing B vitamins and iron minerals that were provided by the bran and the germ.   Because for all practical purposes, that's where your nutrients are. The endosperm, white flours, protein and starch, protein and starches that we need, but not without the fiber, the B vitamins, the vitamin E, the inositol, choline, the iron, the calcium, all those nutrients. And so, things kind of clipped along.   They went to the millers and said, you got to put the bran and germ back in because of all the sickness. But the millers were like yeah, no, that's not going to happen because they had found a very lucrative market for the byproducts, which is so often done now in the food industry. Byproducts of the milling process, the bran and germ were sold to the cattle feed industry, white flour to the people.   So they're like, yeah, we're not giving up that money-making market. So things progressed until 1948. And finally, health officials stepped in, the government stepped in and mandated, you've got to fix the flour, you've got to enrich it.   And that's where I discovered what a deceptive term that is for the 35 to 40, who knows really how many nutrients are lost when they take the bran and germ away. They only replaced it with four, three B vitamins and iron. And of course, B1, B2, B3 and iron.   Supposedly, this took care of the beriberi and pellagra. But I always have to stop here and say, how many nervous disorders do we have in our country today? How many, how much GI disturbances and bowel issues, digestive issues?   How about dementia, mental insanity? What about skin eruptions? I don't think it took care of it.   But anyway, they think it did. And then it would take 50 years, 1998, after watching the rising incidence of birth defects and understanding that it was the missing folate that is no longer in the flour, richest food source, or most common, most readily eaten food source of folate, bread. Who knew?   So, they mandated then that a fifth nutrient be added. And that was folic acid, which, let me stop there and say this, these are synthetically produced supplements, vitamins that are being added to your flour. And particularly the B vitamins, this can be very troublesome, because the B vitamins come as a family, they come as a group, they work together synergistically.   When you take one out of context from the other out of balance, it actually depletes you and causes you to have a greater need. We're seeing that now with folic acid and the development of MTHFR, the folate, you know, reductase gene mutation. So anyway, it's caused more problems than it's worth.   And I've always thought about the scripture Proverbs 14:12, I believe it says, "There is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is death." And we can certainly see that. You know, and if that were not enough, now, we've, we've taken all this away, we produce this beautiful white flour, but the residual oils cause it some yellowing.   So can't have yellowing of that flour. So, they began to choose to bleach the flour and a product called nitrogen trichloride was used for more than 25 years to bleach the flour. It was finally taken off the market because they discovered that this nitrogen trichloride caused seizures in dogs.   Are you ready for this? Hyperactivity.   Laura Dugger: (14:22 - 14:22) Hmm.   Sue Becker: (14:22 - 29:18) When I read that information, it was in 1991. That was the beginning of the scourge of ADD and hyperactivity we're now seeing in our children today. And I couldn't help but wonder, you know, when I read that information, there was one little boy in my son's music class, you know, and, but now, wow, it's pretty prevalent.   So then another bleaching agent is benzoyl peroxide. It's known to destroy B vitamins and vitamin E. And let me just tell you this, grains are one of the, especially wheat is one of the most nutrient dense food groups. Like I said, but it's the, one of the richest food sources of vitamin E and no amount of vitamin E has ever been put back in our enriched right white flour.   So, we lost that source, but now we're using a bleaching agent that's going to destroy it and B vitamins. And then potassium bromate is often used as a dough conditioner. It helps strengthen that gluten structure to help get a better rise in the bread. It's known to cause liver issues and thyroid issues.   And this is what we were consuming. So, wow. Yeah.   Talk about my mind being blown, my eyes being open. And then the rest of the journal was a brief discussion of the common diseases that plague Americans and showed why it was directly related, how it was directly related to our consumption of the processed white flour, lacking the nutrients and the fiber diseases like heart disease, cancer, diabetes, diverticulitis, even varicose veins, skin issues, low energy. I mean, it just went on and on.   And from my, with my background, this made absolute sense. I knew it was scientifically sound, but it was also, it was a Christian publication. It was biblically sound.   And what changed my life here was like I said, always read whole wheat flour, better whole wheat flour, better, but I was buying the stuff in the store and even whole wheat bread in the store. Didn't really see a lot of difference in it. But this introduced me to the idea of an in-home grain mill, buying grain and milling my own flour.   That was life changing. I was like, this is amazing. I can do this.   Wanted a mill. My husband actually bought me a mill for my birthday in 1991. The mill came into our home.   I milled flour. I made bread. I ate bread.   It was delicious. It wasn't gritty. It wasn't heavy.   It wasn't dense. And I tell everyone I pooped the next morning and it was like, what just happened to me? So that was my life-changing experience.   First, first day, you know, my bowel issues were corrected. I had lifelong issues with constipation, struggled with it. Knew I didn't want to take chemical accidents.   So tried to do more alternative solutions, find those and they worked if I did them, but they were, I tell people they were outside of my, your realm of daily eating. You had to do something special. And honestly, sometimes I think we look at alternative methods, you know, supplementation or treatment for ailments that are afflicting us.   And we're not getting, still not getting to the root of the problem. My problem was I was not eating enough fiber. The white bread, the white flour was constipating me.   So this was the only change I made. I tell everyone I've not been constipated since 1991. I know you wanted to hear that, but, but then I had five young children by this time and I, I homeschool my children.   We were active in church and baseball and music lessons and all the things, you know, we were busy. I had nursing baby and, and I, but I'm telling you, when I started just adding this bread to our already real food, we were eating. I noticed significant energy.   Like I said, constipation gone right away. Then I begin to notice first week. It didn't take months.   I was like, wow, I have more energy. My frequent headaches went away. Also with my bowels moving, my chronic constipation went away.   I lived on antihistamines before bread since bread. That's another thing I can stand here and tell you. I've not had an antihistamine or a decongestant of any kind since 1991.   That's pretty amazing. I had frequent migraines, not had one since we started the bread. So those were, I've noticed my sugar cravings went away because now I was getting the real carbohydrates that my body needed and it's sustaining energy.   And then my children, I just noticed they were they were, they would eat and they were satisfied. They love the bread. They love the muffins.   They love the pancakes. It was healthy food. I didn't have to coerce them to eat.   No more snotty noses, no more ear infections for them. And that we just became a much healthier family. And they, my kids didn't necessarily catch every bug that came around.   And if one of them did get sick, didn't necessarily mean that all of us got sick, which a big family, that's, that's pretty significant, you know? And so it was just, and the bread was delicious. When I read that information about whole grains and, and, you know, how bad white flour was, I was, I was thinking that this freshly milled flour was going to be just like the store-bought whole wheat flour I was buying in the store.   And you can probably already tell I'm a very passionate person. So, I read this information. I'm like, we're never eating white bread again.   We're never, white flour's never coming into our house again. And if we have to choke this bread down, we're doing this, you know? Well, we did not have to choke it down at all.   The muffins, the bread, the pancakes, the brownies, cookies, everything I made was absolutely delicious. It was filling and it was satisfying. A lot of people would say, you must spend all your time in the kitchen when all my kids were home.   I'm going, actually, no, we eat breakfast and everybody's satisfied. Nobody snacks. And even my kids begin to notice how other kids snack all the time.   Not my kids, they would eat and they wouldn't eat till the next meal. And so, it was just very, very satisfying. So, I began to share my bread with everybody, bake bread for other people, take it here, take it there.   The next thing I know, so be warned, if you ever start milling and you make bread for somebody, they're going to ask you to make bread for them. So, I did start making bread for other people. And the next thing I know, they're coming to me and saying, my cholesterol dropped 85 points and all I changed was this bread.   You know, I feel better. I have more energy. And the lady with the cholesterol, she, I continued to make bread for her for a while.   And I always laugh. One of the favorite things she liked that I made for her was cinnamon rolls with cream cheese icing. And she said, I ate one after every meal and my cholesterol dropped 85 points in just one month.   And I always laugh. I'm like a statin drug with all kinds of side effects, cinnamon roll with cream cheese icing, you know, and she said, it was her testimony. She goes, "I knew it was the bread. I know it is the bread because three doctors, three different medications, three years, nothing has changed. And this is the only change I made."   So, I started hearing this. And of course, she told all her friends, the next thing you know, everybody's wanting me to make this cholesterol lowering bread for them, you know, and I'll never forget. By this point, I had had my sixth child, still homeschooling, still doing laundry, still baseball, church, all the things. And here I was making bread for my family and then making bread for all these people coming to my door.   And I was spending all day every day making bread and for others and myself. And I just got really tired, to be honest with you. And I was making this bread and a thought came to my mind.   And I just looking back now, I know God put those words in my heart and in my mind. That day, I had also had a few people ask me, would I teach them how to make bread? And where could they get a grain mill?   So the idea came to me, met my husband in the driveway. And I said, when he came home from work, and I said, you know what, I don't think I'm supposed to make bread for the world. I think I'm supposed to teach the world to make bread for themselves.   And that was the beginning right there. We sat down on the porch swing and talked about what we would call it. And I said, I want to call it Bread Beckers.   That's, you know, our, it's funny, we didn't know that at the time. But Becker is a German name that means the baker. So, it is bread bakers.   And anyway, so and, and it's funny, because at that point in 1992, my world was four people, four people had asked me about where they could get a grain mill, and what I teach them to make bread. And today, we, well, we, started our business right then in our home, took a little while to, you know, get everything. And we outgrew our home by 1998, what my husband and I and my children could do.   I mean, it just grew from the testimonies of other people. I mean, just like that lady when and then you get hundreds of people sharing different stories and passing it on, people, people start noticing. So we incorporated with a longtime friend and partner in 1998, moved the business out of our home, we're currently in this lovely 10,000 square foot warehouse, we moved here in 1999.   We have a nice studio kitchen, this is where all my cooking classes take place that we can seat 100 people and regularly we fill up classes like that. We have a lot of online classes already for people to view on our YouTube channel. But and then a few years ago, it's back in 2009, we acquired another warehouse because we are passionate about providing God's people with grain.   That first week here, like I said, customer base of four. A week after starting our business, getting all the license and all that really hadn't started getting anything, God woke me up and said that he was raising up Bread Beckers to be like Joseph to supply his people with grain. And I wrote in my journal that morning that it would be a tremendous thing.   And it would take a few months, we invested in a lot of wheat, we took all of our savings, this was before we incorporated, it was just my husband and I and our family and bought some wheat, you know, and had spent all of our savings. Well, I got a little nervous. And I woke up that morning after unloading all this wheat and writing the checks and seeing the money go out of the savings account.   And I'm like, I don't think the electric company is going to take a bucket of wheat, you know, for payment. So this was my fear. And I felt like, you know, maybe I was being deceived, maybe we were being misled.   And I just cried out to the Lord that he would speak to me and confirm to me that this was what we were supposed to do. And this is how I do it. I just cry out to the Lord.   And then I just go on with my regular Bible reading, not looking for something I could have gone to the story of Joseph because he had already spoken that to me. But my verse for the day in one of my devotionals was Proverbs 11:26. And it says "Cursed is the man who holds back grain when the public needs it. But a blessing from God and man is upon the head of him who sells it."   My husband took that vision. I know you talk about, I was like, what? I could hardly wait for Brad to get up. My husband, Brad, you know, I had awakened early because I was stirring and all just anxious and fearful. And the enemy was just coming at me.   And when I shared that all with Brad that he was sleeping next to me, not knowing that I was in all this turmoil. And he just looked at me and he goes, "Sue, I can think of no other verse that God could have given you to answer and your question and to calm your fears." And so he took it to heart.   So, we now have a second warehouse. It's 13,000 square feet. We are probably one of the largest grain packaging facilities in the southeastern United States.   We have hundreds. I don't know how many we're growing everyday co-ops all over the United States. And we bring in two semi truckloads a week.   I mean, I'm sorry, a month, which is actually a little bit more than that. It's about 190,000 pounds of wheat. That's just wheat.   Package it down into these great food grade buckets, plastic buckets. And we package it with carbon dioxide gas. So it's perfectly storable.   We can guarantee that it's bug free. You know, the enemies of grain are moisture bugs and rodents. So that's why we really firmly believe in packaging it all in buckets.   And like I said, we have probably 180 co-ops now. I don't know. It's growing every day.   We ship wheat all over the country, grain and everything we sell. So it's been a real journey and just a real blessing. And then I started a ministry called Real Bread Outreach.   We clipped along locally, kind of providing grain and grain mills for those who truly can't afford it. But then in 2016, God called me to Haiti. I made 15 trips to Haiti.   We built a bakery there. We trained up another team at an orphanage and they were making bread every day. So right now, in Haiti, it's an intense situation, but the bakery is thriving, feeding about 1,200 school children a day.   And then the other, it's about 150 orphans. Then we went to Tanzania in 2021. We built a bakery there, started a feeding program.   We've helped start a bakery in Israel that is ministering to the Jewish people. We helped train a bakery in Uganda and we've sent mills to missionaries in Japan and the Philippines and Nigeria and Kenya, just all over. And I'll close this part with this.   A few years ago, a friend of mine just, she did, she remembered, she said, "Sue, do you remember when you said to Brad, I don't think I'm supposed to make bread for the world, but teach the world to make bread for themselves." And I'm going to tear up a little bit looking back now, like I said, four people, that was my world. Today, it truly is the world.   And not just because of the internet, but because of where God has called us through our ministry. And it's a real blessing. So, my encouragement to everyone is do the small thing.   You never know where God's going to take you in years to come and how it's going to bless the world.   Laura Dugger: (29:19 - 29:21) So I think that was a lot.   Sue Becker: (29:21 - 29:22) I know.   Laura Dugger: (29:23 - 32:39) It was beautiful. And it makes me think of the verse, do not despise small beginnings for the Lord delights to see the work begin. I'm paraphrasing, but I love how much it has blessed the world.   And I remember the first time I heard you, I was trying to just picture what is a mill, but you literally just turn it on and you pour the grain in and it comes out as flour. It's so easy. And so we purchased our own.   After our conversation, I get to stick in our loaves in the oven. They're still rising right now. 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First, this may be a little unrelated, but even thinking of feeding people around the world or feeding our children, you mentioned, you know, a lot of times if your kids were picky eaters, you'd say, okay, ditch the bread and just eat the meat.   But because it's so nourishing and nutritious and that Jesus has given us this as a grace gift, this bread, you can ditch the meat and eat just the bread and get so much nutritional value.   Sue Becker: (32:40 - 37:32) Yes, that and that's funny that you bring that up because, you know, one of the things over the years of studying is of the 44 to 46 absolutely essential nutrients needed by your body for health and to promote life. There's only four slightly deficient or missing in wheat, vitamin A, vitamin C. So, God gave us another kind of food.   Remember in Genesis chapter 1:29, he says, “I've given you plants that bear fruit with the seed in them.” So that's our fruits and vegetables. That's where we get our vitamin A, vitamin C.   Then we get our vitamin D from the sunshine if we get out there and get some. And then B12, of course, is low or is not found in any plant product. That's I mean, plant food.   So, you have to get that from your meat, your red meats and things like that. But that's and so learning that you're absolutely right. When my kids were growing up and the bread was my little toddler, how she'd tell me she was hungry, she would say, “I want a roll with honey.”   That was what she wanted to eat. And I would take the meat off the sandwich. And before bread, it was eat the meat.   After bread, it was just eat the bread, you know, because I knew just from that. And I started thinking about when Jesus said, “Man does not live by bread alone.” He was quoting the Old Testament, but by every word that proceeds forth from the mouth of God, he was reiterating that you think you're living because you have bread and all the biblical, you know, so many of the biblical feasts, Passover and First Fruits, Pentecost, they're around the barley harvest and the wheat harvest.   Grain was a big part of their life and of their sacrifices and all that. And he was saying, you think you're living just because you have bread. But I'm telling you, there's a spiritual life that you have to feed as well.   So, yeah, that was a fun time seeing the change of my perspective of just eat the bread. And, you know, some days, you know, breakfast was typically a pretty big meal for us. Sometimes it would just be pancakes, but a lot of times it would be eggs and freshly ground grits and bread of some sort, muffins.   And then lunch might be muffins and a smoothie because we really weren't that hungry from the bread at breakfast and then dinner. We eat normal. People think we're weird eaters.   But, you know, like I said, I grew up Southern. So, we do country fried steak. We do pot roast.   We do chicken. We do brown rice, mashed potatoes, green beans. You know, we do it all.   And you mentioned something that was funny. When I first started, when I would take bread places, people go, “Oh, my gosh, this coffee cake is so delicious or this bread is so delicious. Can I get your recipe?”   And I'd go, “Well, yeah, you can have my recipe. But you've got to understand, I mill my own flour.” Two things they would always respond with.   And the first one they would go, “You do what?” And I would go, “I mill my own flour.” The second one absolutely intrigued me for years and years until I did a study on what grain mills, the local millers mills, you know, waterwheels and gristmills and ox treading out the grain.   But they would always say to me, “Where do you live?” And I think they thought I must have had a barn and an ox or I lived by a river to have the gristmill to power my mill. Now, you can see my little mill behind me.   It just sits on my counter. And you're right. Turn it on, pour it in, comes out flour in a matter of seconds.   And I tell people, it's really not any slower or more tedious than taking your flour canister out of your cabinet. And I realize we've deviated in this day and time from even using flour and baking things ourselves when we can go to the store and buy it already baked. But it'll change your life.   I have never seen one dietary change bring so many significant across the board, broad spectrum health benefits to myself, my family, and so many people now that share their testimonies with me. It's just been amazing, just absolutely amazing. And, you know, I always, my husband always likes for me to say, you know, in the 25 years of raising my children on this bread, we only had to take them to the doctor twice for an illness.   Twice. And twice on antibiotics. They needed it.   There's a time and place. Twice to the doctor for an illness. In 25 years, there are people and families that go to the doctor more than that in a week.   So, when people say I can't afford it or I don't have time, I'm like, wow, I can just tell you the life-saving and money-saving advantages are, it's hard to describe. So yeah.   Laura Dugger: (37:33 - 38:05) Yeah. And like you said, it's an enjoyable process. It is.   But also, okay, referencing one other thing, just thinking about these ailments. You had quoted, I believe a doctor just saying about constipation that is, and I don't want to botch it, so I'd love to know if you remember this, that most Americans is that three out of five suffer from constipation or even chronic constipation. And that, was it the number one cause of breast cancer and prostate cancer?   Sue Becker: (38:05 - 39:29) Oh, wow. Yes. I'd almost forgotten that.   Yes. I was listening to a CD that someone shared with me, and it was by an oncologist. And I still remember, I would listen to things as we began to travel and share and teach, and I would listen to teaching.   And so, I had this cassette, if you can remember those or even know what those are. And I remember where I was, I was on I-10 headed to Jacksonville to a homeschool show. And this oncologist at the very end of her message, she said, “Toxins are stored in your, let's see, let me see. So, she said toxins are stored in your fatty tissue. In a woman, it's your breast. It's, and in a man, it's his prostate.”   And she said, “When toxins are not carried out of their, your body daily through bowel elimination, then these toxins get absorbed into the body and stored in your fat tissue.” And she said, “So a direct correlation between cancer and constipation is there.” And, and I was just like, what did she just say?   And that blew me away. I mean, that was not me saying it, this was an oncologist. And she's saying one of the leading issues is constipation.   Wow. Yeah, I'd almost forgotten about that.   Laura Dugger: (39:30 - 39:44) Well, and such a simple swap and getting to still enjoy these foods. But in addition to being healthier and the health benefits and making us feel better, how does this also potentially affect our weight?   Sue Becker: (39:45 - 42:33) Well, that's a good question, because we're all told that bread is bad, that bread will make you fat. And I totally agree. The bread that's in the store is devoid of nutrients.   It's devoid of fiber that fills you up. It's devoid of nutrients that satisfy fiber that fills you up. And it's heavily sweetened, sugared, you know, most of the breads we're eating are not just flour, water, yeast, salt. They're usually loaded with other things.   So, they're not satisfying. The fiber in real bread fills you up. So, like I said, you're not going to overeat, you're going to eat and you're going to be satisfied.   You know, I always tell the story when, when we were eating just bread from the store, I had five children, I would make sandwiches, they would, you know, cut them in half, I would make five sandwiches, they would, or I'd make the whole loaf, actually, they would fight over the last one. After bread, real bread that fills you up, I would make five sandwiches, cut them in half, and sometimes they would eat them all. And sometimes they wouldn't.   It was because it was filling, and it was satisfying. And that's something people need to understand. Also, the nutritional deficiency in the foods that we're eating in the store, especially our bread, they're leaving us malnourished, really.   Dr. Denmark, one of the oldest, well, the oldest practicing pediatrician in the country, she lived right here in Georgia. And she said, “We're the most undernourished, overfed people in the world.” We eat a lot because we're never satisfied, because the foods we're eating does not supply our body with the nutrients that we need.   And so, we're constantly craving. I don't think a lot of people don't understand what cravings are. You're craving food because you're needing a nutrient, you know.   And so, we find that we can eat and eat and eat, and, or not we, but Americans can overeat, and they do overeat because they're never satisfied. And so, real bread fills you up, real bread satisfies, it takes those sugar cravings away, which, you know, a lot of high calorie foods, they're loaded with sugars, and that's what we're craving a lot of times. I read something, women tend to crave sweets and chocolate, and men tend to crave salty.   And, but both, if we're craving, you know, processed foods, you know, you can sit down and eat the whole bag of cookies, where you make cookies from freshly milled flour, one, maybe two, if you go three, you kind of go, I really didn't need that one, you know. So, it's just filling, it's satisfying. We have so many people, testimonies of people saying they've lost, one lady said she lost over a hundred pounds, that was over the course of a while, you know, of a year or so, but she did it right.   She just started eating real food that nourishes and satisfies.   Laura Dugger: (42:34 - 44:21) I want to make sure that you're up to date with our latest news. We have a new website. 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So, make sure you visit thesavvysauce.com.   And throughout the years, you've seen these different trends from Atkins to Paleo, and now a lot of times we're told gluten is the enemy, but I love how you say that wheat can actually be the cure, not the cause.   So, can you elaborate on that, and even why some people with gluten sensitivities may still be able to consume bread that was made with freshly milled grain?   Sue Becker: (44:21 - 1:01:23) Right, so, yeah, I think what people need to understand is what gluten actually is. And gluten's not really even in grains, it's just an easy way to verbalize it, I guess. So, gluten is the stretchy substance that forms from two proteins that are found uniquely in the wheat family of grains.   So, when you mill wheat into flour, and you hydrate it, wet it, mix it, you know, make a dough out of it, those two proteins, gliadin and glutamine, they form this stretchy substance called gluten. Well, it's very important in bread making that you have these two proteins, because when you make a yeast leavened bread, whether it's sourdough or commercial yeast today, those organisms feed on the carbohydrates both in the wheat and in your dough, and they produce carbon dioxide gas. So, that gluten, those stretchy strands of protein, those two proteins, they trap that carbon dioxide gas, and that's what enables the bread to rise.   So, it's unique to the wheat family of grain. It has always been there. It's why wheat is the king of bread making and always has been.   Who put those two proteins in the wheat family of grains? God did. And just so you know, wheat is not genetically modified, and it has not been altered to produce wheat that has a higher gluten content.   What determines the protein content of grain more than anything, which, what did I say gluten is? It's formed from two proteins. What determines the protein content in grain more than anything is rainfall during the growing season.   So, that's why here in the southeastern United States, we can't make yeast bread making wheat. We can't grow it because we have too much rainfall and it's too warm. So, we grow what's called soft wheat or pastry flour.   That's why southerners eat biscuits, because that's the kind of bread that we can make with the wheat grown here. The colder, drier climates in the breadbasket states of the country, they grow the hard bread making wheat. Now herein lies the problem.   When those steel rolling mills came on the scene and began to take the bran and germ out, what did they leave us with? Protein and starch. Those gluten forming proteins and starch are in that endosperm.   God never intended us to eat that white flour, those protein and starches without the vitamins, the minerals, the enzymes, the vitamin E that the bran and germ provide. So, therein lies a lot of the problem and that's what causes so many digestive issues is that we aren't getting the nutrients and the fiber that will keep our bowels clean and our digestive system moving the way it is supposed to. Now herein lies a bigger problem is that in the food industry and the American people's craving for fluffier bread.   In the food industry, they thought, okay, we can give you fluffier bread. If we take the wheat and we wash it until only all that is left is those two proteins, those gluten forming proteins. They get this stretchy substance and then they dry it and powder it and they add even more pure gluten forming proteins to that white bread.   So, now we have an even bigger problem and then and even in that whole grain bread, people want fluffy bread. They don't want, you know, coarser whole grain bread. So, check your ingredients.   That 100% whole grain bread that you might be already buying, third or fourth ingredient gonna be vital wheat gluten or gluten flour, whatever they call it and that is greatly upsetting the fiber to flour ratio and causing digestive issues. And then, you know, just the heavily consumption of that bread and you know, the commercially processed bread is a real problem. So, now what we have is people, you know, Americans consuming this bread.   Now, they have every symptom of something called celiac disease. Celiac disease is real. It is genetic.   I am learning. I used to say it's not reversible, but I am learning something that you might have the genes for celiac disease, but they can be turned on or turned off. So, perhaps what is happening is you might have the gene, but now it's being turned on by eating and consuming this high gluten, if you will, bread out of context, not the way God made it.   But then also what is also happening is so now we have people that have all the symptoms. Well, let me back up and just explain what celiac disease, celiac disease, true genetic celiac disease. You are born with these genes, the inability to break down that and metabolize gliadin.   That's one of those gluten forming proteins, which the whole wheat family has that. So, if you can't break it down, it's going to cause digestive issues, abdominal cramping. It's going to eventually as those that protein gets dumped into your large intestine, your bowel, it's going to lay down the villi.   You're going to have leaky gut. You're going to have all these issues. That is true genetic celiac disease, but it affects less than 1% of Americans have those genes and have it turned on for true genetic celiac disease.   So, what is being diagnosed today? Well, everybody eating the commercially processed high gluten packed or you know bread, they're developing the same symptoms, digestive issues, abdominal cramping, laying down the villi. So, they're being diagnosed with celiac disease when it a lot of times is not true genetic celiac disease and I'm not professing to be a medical professional.   I'm not giving anybody medical advice, but here's the good news that I do want to say to you. Non-genetic celiac disease is totally reversible. And the good news is people are finding some that have been diagnosed with celiac going gluten-free been gluten-free for 20 years.   They're finding they can eat the freshly milled flour because it has the right ratio and the good fiber and the good nutrients to heal their gut, cleanse their gut, and get their bowels moving, cleans out. So, bring that villi back to life and they're thriving. They're not just tolerating the bread.   They're thriving and finding reversal of many, many, many health issues. And another big issue too is people don't understand that for the most part digestion begins in your mouth, carbohydrate digestion. You chew your food, your saliva mixes with your food and there's an enzyme carbohydrate digesting enzyme called amylase.   Once you swallow that down in your stomach, your stomach is where protein digestion takes place. It must have an acid environment for those protein digestive enzymes to work. God knew that we're fearfully and wonderfully made.   He created cells in our stomach to produce acid brings the pH. If y'all know what pH is down to one very, very acidic could eat a hole in your stomach. But he also created these cells that produce mucus that lines our stomach and protects it from that high acid.   So, that's where protein digestion needs to take place. Here's the problem. What is one of the most commonly prescribed drugs in America? Prilosec, Nexium.   These are antacids. They're prescribing it for something called acid reflux, which is only compounding the problem. So, these antacids are doing exactly what the name of them describes.   They're alkalizing your stomach acid. So, what's that going to do to protein digestion? It's going to compromise it.   Huh? So, yeah, and the real cause of acid reflux is not too much stomach acid. It is actually too low stomach acid.   Our body's not getting the nutrients that needs to produce that stomach acid. Now, it's acid enough that when it comes back up in our esophagus it burns, but there's a little flap that God created right there at our stomach and our esophagus called the epiglottis. Do you know what's and it's supposed to close so that when that stomachs churning and doing its digestion, it doesn't back that acid doesn't back up into your esophagus, but it closes.   It's stimulated to close by the high acid in your stomach. Do you see what's happening here? So, we're being prescribed an antacid which now we don't necessarily get the burn, but there's all kinds of side effects.   We've compromised protein digestion, which what did we say gluten is protein. Also, do you know the technical term for an allergy a food allergy not a sensitivity or an intolerance the technical term for a food allergy is an adverse reaction to a protein component of your food. I have never seen so many food allergies as we see today.   It's very interesting. Some people are diagnosed with a gluten sensitivity. Well, of course, I think everybody is sensitive to the bread and the store.   Some people can tolerate a little bit better than others, but I know when I occasionally, you know, we go out to a party or an event and we usually avoid bread, but sometimes it's on everything. You know, I know I wake up the next morning and I'm like, I don't feel good. I have a stomachache.   So, I think everybody is sensitive to the bread in the store, but we have now hundreds of testimonies of people who thought they had to be gluten-free or say I have, you know, I haven't eaten bread in 20 years because made me sick. It did this it did that and they are finding they can eat the freshly milled flour because even wheat because it's the right proportions all the nutrients, you know, one of the amino acids that's found abundantly and wheat is glutamine Google it and you'll see a lot of health professionals will actually give you glutamine supplements to heal your gut and it's and it's in the bread. So, then part of the other problem that I see then when people think they're gluten-sensitive or have to be gluten-free now mind you if you truly are genetic celiac, you probably will not be able to eat wheat and I'm saying probably now because I'm learning some things that we can turn those genes off.   I don't know but if you truly are genetic celiac, but that is going to be a diagnosis that probably came when you were young you were going to always have had symptoms of these if you are now 20 or 30 and all of a sudden having these issues and you've been eating wheat all your life chances are you're not true genetic celiac. So, that's something you need to look at but people are finding they can eat the flour. They can eat the wheat and part of a real concern of mine is when you go gluten-free if you don't really need to I've been doing some studying as a food microbiologist gut microbiome has been a big topic.   I've shared I've taught way before it was trendy on, you know probiotics and all of that and fermented foods. I've been teaching it since 1992 but what happens that they're finding on these gluten-free diets. It's actually diminishing your good gut microbiome and encouraging the growth of more pathogenic making you more susceptible to C. diff, E. coli and other sickness causing organisms.   Then you're going to have those organisms are critical for breaking down food that gets dumped into the large intestine and encouraging digestion and enzymes that they create and all kinds of B vitamins and I could go on and on so that is being compromised the next thing, you know, you have allergies to eggs allergies to milk these very restrictive diets change that gut microbiome and they are causing a lot of gut health issues and allergy issues. I've talked to two people in the last few months one lady told to go gluten-free been gluten-free for years. She with tears in her eyes couple of weeks ago came down from Ohio hugged me in was came to our store just wanted to come to our store.   I happen to be here that day. She hugged me tears in her eyes and said I was down to eight foods that I could eat another lady in one of my classes came up and said I was down to seven foods that I could eat, you know, so It puts you on a treadmill that I don't think you want to be on when you start very restrictive diets. It's and not just gluten-free, but even you know, the carnivore and the keto and the paleo the heavy meat diets you need whole grains to break the fats down and cholesterol that those foods are providing and I'm a meat eater.   I mean, that's fine, but to exclude the most nutrient-dense food group God has given us in my mind is very dangerous. Let's see if we can get healing and reverse that I have a podcast and I do it's the bread stories now and I one of my favorites and I recommend it more often than any other is episode 66 sit with Sarah Valentine if anybody that I hear of that say they have to be gluten-free or their celiac, I would say she fit the bill for what surely seemed like a true genetic celiac. She was diagnosed in I think she was around 15 or I don't remember her age.   She was in high school. I think but she had always had trouble even as a little one and she was diagnosed with celiac and she said at the end of the podcast, she goes either God supernatural healed me or it was a misdiagnosis, but she had been gluten-free for 15 years. I believe it was and she told me she said and I she had a dairy allergy.   She couldn't eat dairy and she said, you know dairy I cheated on a little bit because it would just cause me a little discomfort. She goes I never cheated on gluten. Well, her brother and her mother heard about me and they Sarah was off at college and they got a mill and started milling because her brother's children had some health issues.   I think they have warts and my work stories are great. But anyway, bought a mill. She came home from school and they said Sari.   We want you to try this. You nope. Nope.   Nope. I'm I can't finally they talked her into trying a little bit should she ate it no issues at all and she told me on that podcast. She said I pooped the best I've ever pooped.   I have pooped in a long time the next morning. I slept the best. I had no headaches had no adverse reaction and she's become if any anyone My poster child for you know, reversing what appears to be celiac disease and being able to thrive on real bread and freshly milled wheat with the right balance of those protein starches nutrients fiber enzymes vitamin E all the things that bring healing and improve digestion get the bowels cleaned out and the gut healed.   So, yeah, it's something that I think excites me the most and I call it food freedom because what I'm seeing is people are in bondage and you know, when you can't eat this and you can't eat that and I understand there's some I have a granddaughter that has a dairy a true dairy allergy and I get it and those are real and you don't want to you know diminish those but we are seeing so many people that the bread in the store totally disrupts their system and causes all kinds of issues were seeing them not only like I said tolerate bread made from freshly milled flour, but bring healing bring healing and I that is so much our Lord that God knows what he's doing in his intentional design. He is all about healing and freedom versus of setting the captives free.   Laura Dugger: (1:01:38 - 1:01:40) Oh gosh, that was a big one. Yeah.   Sue Becker: (1:01:40 - 1:02:10) Yeah, but it also just one real practical thing as we're talking about gluten and fermentation with sourdough. This is a two-parter because if you feed it with white flour or add that I'm assuming that diminishes effects and if you feed it with fresh milled flour and then add that to bake it in bread, is that like double the benefits because you've got the fermentation and the grain or how does that work?   Sue Becker: (1:02:10 - 1:07:07) You know, I can't find any real definitive information, but let's back up and let's talk about sourdough with white flour there for a while when we were still traveling back in the probably early 2000s a lot of teaching coming out going even celiacs can eat, you know sourdough bread and they were making it with white flour and all of this. Is it better than the stuff you're buying in the store? Maybe but white flour is white flour and it's still process is still been stripped of all the vitamins the minerals and the fiber.   So, in my viewpoint, it is no better for you. If you're making it's kind of a waste of time if you're making sourdough bread with white flour. Now, if you start milling your own flour and making your sourdough with that, that's a whole other realm.   And like I said, I've done lots of studies most what I find when I read is that when we went to commercial yeast, we gave up flavor. So, I get that and that the bread is kind of flavorless now. So, I get that a little bit but as Americans and especially children, we like our fluffy bread, don't we?   Yeah, so, kids, you know, don't fret if you're making bread with commercial yeast. That's the way I make most of my bread. But as a microbiologist and knowing that when those lactic acid organisms feed on sugars, they produce B vitamins.   That's like yogurt. Why yogurt has B vitamins and maybe your milk, you know, just uncultured milk doesn't. So, I know that that increases the availability of those nutrients.   So, I think there is definitely some nutritional advantages that you take it to a whole new level. But what I say that commercial yeasted bread is not healthy and you can't do that that you only need to be doing sourdough, you know, I learned to make sourdough from white flour when I was first married long before milling came into our family by the time I had my children I had vacated that and then when I started milling I used commercial yeast and have for most of my years and we saw tremendous health benefits. So, I don't diminish one over the other but I certainly recognize that yeah, you might have some better nutrient bioavailability. I don't buy into the that you have to do the long fermentations to prevent the anti-nutrients like phytic acid from keeping you from absorbing minerals because I've had mineral checks and we've seen people testify that they had to have blood transfusions regularly because they were anemic all their life.   They start milling making their bread with commercial yeast, you know, and they're no longer anemic and we've seen countless people that and the same with me. I'm never low in my minerals. So, I don't buy into that.   But I say, you know, hey if you feel like you can digest sourdough bread better than commercial yeast leavened bread. I'm not going to argue with you go for it do it. But I also don't want to put a heavy burden on especially young moms that are like it's going to take me three days to make bread, you know, or it's you know, no, it doesn't have to so that's kind of my stance on it.   Do what works for your family sourdough is a rhythm. So, you got to kind of get into it about the time I get into it. We take a trip.   I go speak somewhere. I'm gone for four days and I'm like, okay, where am I with this? So, you know, that's just kind of my viewpoint and what I want to encourage people do what works for you what you want what your family likes.   I love I've got sourdough bread rising right now. There's times when I just like I just want you know, that chewy that nice flavorful bread and then there's other times where I want a soft loaf of bread for a good Southern tomato sandwich or my kids like peanut butter sandwiches, you know, so do what works do for your family do what your family is going to eat and love and you know, my husband has a philosophy if it doesn't taste good. It's not good for you.   So, if your family, your children, especially don't like the texture and flavor of sourdough some people do but if especially if your kids are used to the bread from the store, that's going to be a hard transition for them. And if they're not going to eat it and balk at it, then it's not going to bring them the health benefits that you're trying to do for your family. So, make what's cul

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Laura and Xhafer celebrate Thanksgiving with a classic family brawl. Laura thinks moms and dads deserve to be happy, too. Xhafer breaks out the Prilosec. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 3, Episode 9: Unfinished Business. Discord: https://discord.gg/MUHKDDk6TNMerch: https://www.etsy.com/shop/WhatHappenedHerePods

You've been taking Prilosec for years. Your doctor prescribed it for heartburn, or you bought it over-the-counter. It helped at first. But now you're also taking Tums multiple times a week. You feel bloated after eating. You can't finish a sandwich without discomfort. And your migraines? Still there. Here's what nobody tells you: Your heartburn medication is making your migraines worse. Proton pump inhibitors (PPIs) like Prilosec and Nexium suppress your stomach acid. Your stomach is supposed to be pH 1. Strong enough to take paint off a car. That's how you absorb minerals from food. When your stomach acid is suppressed, a sphincter at the top of your stomach doesn't get the signal to close. It stays open and weakens over time. Meanwhile, you can't absorb the minerals every cell in your body needs. The box says: "Do not take longer than 14 days." I've had clients on Prilosec for 20 years. I just worked with two clients, both with daily head pain, both on PPIs for decades, both still experiencing heartburn even on the medication. We restored their digestive function, reduced their migraines significantly, and weaned them off Prilosec without rebound. Your heartburn and migraines are connected because both signal blockers in your body's ability to get nutrients to cells, clear waste, and restore vitality. If you're on a PPI and struggling with migraines, let's talk. Schedule your free consultation here: https://www.drlesliecisar.com/apply Free Training: 5 Proven Steps to Being Migraine Free (Even if you think you've already tried everything.) https://www.drlesliecisar.com/5SHMN Connect with us: Website: https://www.drlesliecisar.com/ Free Facebook Group: Healing Migraines Naturally, with Leslie Cisar, ND Ready to try something radically different that actually works? Read more about my approach here: https://www.drlesliecisar.com/map

Stop Settling for Shortcuts: Why Quick Fixes Are Failing Your Health” When did we start believing that a pill a day keeps the problem away? In this episode of Chiropractic is Se*y, we're exposing the trap of “easy-button” healthcare. We share a conversation with a patient who was taking a nightly Prilosec without ever asking why he needed it—or what it might be doing long term.We also tackle a big myth: that you're stuck with the health outcomes your parents had. You are not a victim of your genes. Your environment, choices, and habits turn genes on or off—this is the science of epigenetics, and it's empowering once you understand it.Tune in as we talk about:The family legacy of lifestyle-driven illnessHow discomfort is actually a signal (not a nuisance)Why foundational health work matters more than symptom reliefEpigenetics: how your environment influences gene expression

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Most people assume that if a drug sits on the shelf at Costco or Walgreens, it must be pretty safe. But what if some of the most common over-the-counter (OTC) medications are among the riskiest drugs in America? On this episode of Vitality Radio, Jared exposes the hidden dangers behind everyday pain relievers, sleep aids, and heartburn drugs—medicines that cause thousands of deaths every year when misused or taken long-term. You'll learn how a drug becomes “OTC,” what happens when pharmaceutical companies push for that switch, and why the FDA's approval process might not tell the whole story. Jared dives into the startling realities of PPIs like Prilosec, NSAIDs like ibuprofen, and acetaminophen (Tylenol)—uncovering their risks to the liver, kidneys, bones, and brain. He also discusses how marketing convinces consumers these drugs are harmless. Finally, Jared offers a resource for safe, natural alternatives for reflux, pain, inflammation, sleep, and immune support—options that nourish the body instead of depleting it. This episode will change the way you look at “harmless” OTC drugs and help you take real control of your health.Just Ingredients Lemon Swish Protein Powder Vitality Radio POW! Product of the Week $29.99 per bag (regular price $59.99) with PROMO CODE: POW15Additional Information:#341: Your Digestive Health Supplement User's Guide. From IBS to Acid Reflux - Learn How to Balance Your Gut Health With Natural Products. #522: Q&A Show #5 - Jared Answers Your Questions About Energy and Sleep!#471: Boosting Your Immune System Ahead of Winter #553: Boswellia & Curcumin: Nature's Dream Team for Pain & Inflammation with Dr. Lexi LochVisit the podcast website here: VitalityRadio.comYou can follow @vitalitynutritionbountiful and @vitalityradio on Instagram, or Vitality Radio and Vitality Nutrition on Facebook. Join us also in the Vitality Radio Podcast Listener Community on Facebook. Shop the products that Jared mentions at vitalitynutrition.com. Let us know your thoughts about this episode using the hashtag #vitalityradio and please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. Thank you!Just a reminder that this podcast is for educational purposes only. The FDA has not evaluated the podcast. The information is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. The advice given is not intended to replace the advice of your medical professional.

Are you paranoid about drinking enough water? Constantly carrying that gallon jug with timestamps telling you how much to drink by 9 AM, by noon, by 3 PM? Dr. Leslie breaks down the myth that migraine sufferers need to drink excessive amounts of water to avoid dehydration triggers. The truth? That "drink 64 ounces a day" recommendation from the 90s came from nowhere. There's zero research behind it. And now people are being told to drink even more. Here's what's actually happening: When you flood your body with water, you create a relative mineral deficiency. Your kidneys struggle to filter all that excess fluid while trying to hold onto essential minerals like sodium and potassium. If you're already mineral deficient (especially if you take acid blockers like Prilosec or Tums), you're literally flushing minerals out through your urine. Dr. Leslie reveals what she's found working with hundreds of clients: When your body is in a state of health, you only need about 40 ounces of water per day, around four cups. Your natural thirst will guide you to drink what you need. Excessive thirst is actually a symptom. It usually means your body is trying to dilute an overload of metabolic waste and toxins. As her clients restore their health, their thirst normalizes, and they stop waking up to urinate multiple times per night. If you'd like to understand what your symptoms are actually telling you and address the root cause instead of force-feeding yourself water out of fear, Dr. Leslie offers free consultations. You can book your free call here: https://www.drlesliecisar.com/apply Free Training: 5 Proven Steps to Being Migraine Free (Even if you think you've already tried everything.) https://www.drlesliecisar.com/5SHMN Connect with us: Website: https://www.drlesliecisar.com/ Free Facebook Group: Healing Migraines Naturally, with Leslie Cisar, ND Ready to try something radically different that actually works? Read more about my approach here: https://www.drlesliecisar.com/map

Dr. Zorba and Karl discuss research about the importance of eye contact between parents and babies, as well as adults. They take a listener phone call about a dentist suggesting Prilosec. Zorba answers voicemails about smelly feet and if collagen is good to take. Karl shares a mom joke...from his mom. And Zorba goes on a Grammatical Sabbatical.Production, editing, and music by Karl Christenson Send your question to Dr. Zorba (we just might use it!): Phone: 608-492-9292 (call anytime) Email: askdoctorzorba@gmail.com Web: www.doctorzorba.org Stay well!

Send us a textDr. Zorba and Karl discuss research about the importance of eye contact between parents and babies, as well as adults. They take a listener phone call about a dentist suggesting Prilosec. Zorba answers voicemails about smelly feet and if collagen is good to take. Karl shares a mom joke...from his mom. And Zorba goes on a Grammatical Sabbatical.Production, edit, and music by Karl Christenson Send your question to Dr. Zorba (he loves to help!): Phone: 608-492-9292 (call anytime) Email: askdoctorzorba@gmail.com Web: www.doctorzorba.org Stay well!

Now, you may not know them by that technical name, but I bet you've heard their brand names: Prilosec, Nexium, Protonix, Prevacid. These are the purple pills and little capsules that so many people take for acid reflux, indigestion, ulcers, or heartburn. Some of them are available by prescription, and many are available over the counter.They are powerful. They are effective. They can be life-saving in certain situations. But here's the nasty rub: we now have decades of research that tells us that long-term use of these drugs may come with some very real risks. And yet, millions of Americans take them day in and day out, often for years, sometimes even decades, with no reevaluation.

Hey, you wonderful and amazing listeners to The Armor Men's Health Show!  Thanks for tuning in again and sharing this with your friends!  This round, Dr. Mistry and Donna Lee spend time again with one of their favorite guests, Dr. Declan Fleming!  They all start off in segment one discussing how cancer diagnoses are changing and how doctors really do NOT want patients to become sicker and sicker which is contrary to some people's beliefs.  Between 1930 and 2006, the cancer rates increased annually but at around 2006, they started to flatten out.  Since then, most of the cancer rates have been going down except for five of them - thyroid cancer, neuroendocrine tumors, stomach cancer, liver cancer and skin cancer.  One of those is due to an unintended consequence from using over-the-counter medicines for GERD!  Be careful when taking these medications for more than six weeks:  Prilosec, Pepcid, Tagamet, Protonix, Nexium.  If you need these medications for more than several weeks, please see a physician because they can be dangerous which could lead to the esophageal issues and even cancer.  Dr. Mistry and Dr. Fleming also talk about fatty liver disease and the inherent dangers with the substances of the liver.  In a nutshell, fat causes inflammation which is the enemy to the body so let's get rid of it!  In the second segment, Dr. Mistry and Dr. Fleming discuss something new in medicine called a "liquid biopsy" which Dr. Fleming explains in great detail about finding cancer and how to treat it better and better with the newest technology.  Fascinating!  Dr. Mistry and Dr. Fleming also refer to possible medical "dumpster fires" (yes, that's a medical phrase) and how Dr. Fleming is the appropriate surgeon to fix a lot of them over other types of surgeons.  The doctors also talk about the different types of cancers and why more aggressive treatments are needed for some but not necessarily others.  Dr. Fleming is a faculty member at UT Dell Medical School and is an Associate Professor there as well.  Voted top Men's Health Podcast, Sex Therapy Podcast, and Prostate Cancer Podcast by FeedSpot.Dr. Mistry is a board-certified urologist and has been treating patients in the Austin and Greater Williamson County area since he started his private practice, NAU Urology Specialists, in 2007.  Donna Lee has worked with Dr. Mistry since 2017 and is now NAU Urology Specialists' Director of Business Development.  She's also a professional standup comedian. We enjoy hearing from you! Visit www.armormenshealth.com to submit a question and we'll answer your questions anonymously in an upcoming episode! Phone: (512) 238-0762Website: www.armormenshealth.comEmail: armormenshealth@gmail.comOur Locations:Round Rock Office970 Hester's Crossing Road Suite 101 Round Rock, TX 78681South Austin Office6501 South Congress Suite 1-103 Austin, TX 78745Lakeline Office12505 Hymeadow Drive Suite 2C Austin, TX 78750Dripping Springs Office170 Benney Lane Suite 202 Dripping Springs, TX 78620 

Vidcast:  https://www.instagram.com/p/DJKcyZ6PDwM/If you are taking a proton pump, inhibitor such as omeprazole, Prilosec, esomeprazole, Nexium, or lansoprazole, Prevacid, you are likely not taking it at an optimal time with respect to meals. Most directions given with these drugs vaguely recommend taking them an hour or so before eating.  Lab data pinpoints a more specific time.It turns out that the best time to take any of these drugs is exactly 20 to 30 minutes before you begin eating. Let's find out why. The role of these proton pump inhibitors is to shut off acid production in the stomach. They work on acid producing cells in the stomach lining known as parietal cells. However, the drugs as you swallow them are not capable of performing this task. They must first be converted to active forms within the acidic crevices of the parietal cells called canaliculi. This process requires approximately 20 to 30 minutes to occur.If you begin eating before taking these drugs or before 20-30 minutes after taking them, their acid suppressing effect will be reduced. If you wait too long after taking the drugs before eating, the optimal acid reduction by the active form of the drug will have occurred and the food you are eating will trigger far more stomach acid than is desirable.So, to repeat, take any of these proton pump inhibitors exactly 20 to 30 minutes before eating a meal, whether that be breakfast or, if you're taking the drug twice a day, dinner.  Effect of Food and Dosing Regimen on Safety and Efficacy of Proton Pump Inhibitors Therapy—A Literature Review - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8036504/#protonpumpinhibitors # ppi #acid #prilosec #nexium #prevacid

Drug interactions can cause more complex side effects than the side effects of a single drug, and can even contribute to dementia. Join me as I interview Hal Cranmer, owner of several assisted living homes, and Dr. Roshani Sanghani, board-certified endocrinologist, to discuss the side effects of multiple medications. Assisted Living Home: https://aparadiseforparents.com/Epocrates:https://www.epocrates.com/Taking the following drugs for an extended period of time may potentially increase your risk for dementia. 1. Drugs that block acetylcholineThis includes Benadryl, certain drugs for depression, and drugs that treat overactive bladder. 2. BenzodiazepineDrugs such as Valium and Xanax treat anxiety, insomnia, and seizures, affecting the central nervous system and brain.3. PPIsProton pump inhibitors, such as Prilosec and Nexium, that treat indigestion and heartburn may increase the risk of cognitive decline.4. Opioids Morphine, oxycodone, and other opioids that sedate the brain significantly affect cognitive function and may lead to dementia. Hal Cranmer owns several assisted living homes and sees first-hand the consequences of giving someone several drugs at once. Many residents in assisted living homes are on 20 to 30 medications. In Hal's facilities, he focuses on providing his residents with a healthy diet and eliminating sugar and ultra-processed foods. Many of Hal's residents have been able to get off their medication. Multiple medications often involve multiple doctors with multiple viewpoints. Each doctor focuses only on specific parts and functions of the body rather than the body as a whole. Adverse drug reactions are unexpected side effects directly caused by drugs. Around 90% are underreported. Adverse drug reactions are responsible for 10% of all hospital visits and are the 4th leading cause of death. Dr. Roshani Sanghani, a board-certified endocrinologist, uses epocrates.com to help keep track of drug interactions. She points out the problem of specialists focusing on and prescribing treatment for one body part and not considering the patients' other medications. The biggest contributor to chronic disease is diet. Medications are often prescribed to treat the symptoms caused by consuming ultra-processed foods. A healthy diet can turn this cycle around.

Acid Reflux Medicine May Cause Osteoporosis Stomach acid–blocking proton pump inhibitor drugs—PPIs with brand names like Prilosec, Prevacid, Nexium, Protonix, and AcipHex—appear to significantly increase the risk of bone fractures. Listen to today's episode to learn about the written by Dr. Michael Greger at @NutritionFacts.org #vegan #plantbased #plantbasedbriefing #acidreflux #GERD #osteoporosis #ppi #protonpumpinhibitors #Prilosec #prevacid #Nexium #protonix #acipHex ============================ Original post: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/acid-reflux-medicine-may-cause-osteoporosis/  Related Episodes: Acid Reflux 943: How to Prevent and Treat Heartburn Without Medication https://plantbasedbriefing.libsyn.com/943-how-to-prevent-and-treat-heartburn-without-medication-according-to-gastro-docs-by-dana-hudepohl-at-forksoverknivescom 174: [Part 1] Dining by Traffic Light: Green is for Go, Red is for Stop https://plantbasedbriefing.libsyn.com/174-part-1-dining-by-traffic-light-green-is-for-go-red-is-for-stop-by-dr-michael-greger-at-nutritionfactsorg 133: Treating Reflux in Babies with Diet https://plantbasedbriefing.libsyn.com/133-treating-reflux-in-babies-with-diet-by-dr-michael-greger-at-nutritionfactsorg 90: 'Plant Based Diet Healed My Gut and Made Me a Better Doctor' and '5 Ways to Reduce Food Waste at Home' https://plantbasedbriefing.libsyn.com/90-plant-based-diet-healed-my-gut-and-made-me-a-better-doctor-and-5-ways-to-reduce-food-waste-at-home   Osteoporosis 822: Calcium and Strong Bones https://plantbasedbriefing.libsyn.com/822-calcium-and-strong-bones-by-physicians-committee-for-responsible-medicine-at-pcrmorg  760: Fall Prevention Is the Most Important Thing for Preventing Osteoporosis Bone Fractures https://plantbasedbriefing.libsyn.com/760-fall-prevention-is-the-most-important-thing-for-preventing-osteoporosis-bone-fractures-by-dr-michael-greger-at-nutritionfactsorg  695: Is a Plant-Based Diet the Best for Senior Health? https://plantbasedbriefing.libsyn.com/695-is-a-plant-based-diet-the-best-for-senior-health-by-charlotte-pointing-at-vegnewscom 612: 5 Tips To Maintain Strong Bones And Prevent Osteoporosis https://plantbasedbriefing.libsyn.com/612-5-tips-to-maintain-strong-bones-and-prevent-osteoporosis-from-switch4goodorg  489: [Part 2] Calcium for Vegans https://plantbasedbriefing.libsyn.com/489-part-2-calcium-for-vegans-by-brigitte-gemme-at-veganfamilykitchencom 488: [Part 1] Calcium for Vegans https://plantbasedbriefing.libsyn.com/488-part-1-calcium-for-vegans-by-brigitte-gemme-at-veganfamilykitchencom 340: Milk and Osteoporosis: The Calcium Myth https://plantbasedbriefing.libsyn.com/340-milk-and-osteoporosis-the-calcium-myth-by-rick-scott-at-switch4goodorg   ============================ Dr. Michael Greger is a physician, New York Times bestselling author, and internationally recognized speaker on nutrition, food safety, and public health issues. A founding member and Fellow of the American College of Lifestyle Medicine, Dr. Greger is licensed as a general practitioner specializing in clinical nutrition. He is a graduate of the Cornell University School of Agriculture and Tufts University School of Medicine. He founded NUTRITIONFACTS.ORG is a non-profit, non-commercial, science-based public service provided by Dr. Michael Greger, providing free updates on the latest in nutrition research via bite-sized videos. There are more than a thousand videos on nearly every aspect of healthy eating, with new videos and articles uploaded every day.   His latest books —How Not to Die, the How Not to Die Cookbook, and How Not to Diet — became instant New York Times Best Sellers. His two latest books, How to Survive a Pandemic and the How Not to Diet Cookbook were released in 2020.  100% of all proceeds he has ever received from his books, DVDs, and speaking engagements have always and will always be donated to charity. ============================== FOLLOW THE SHOW ON: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@plantbasedbriefing     Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2GONW0q2EDJMzqhuwuxdCF?si=2a20c247461d4ad7 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/plant-based-briefing/id1562925866 Your podcast app of choice: https://pod.link/1562925866 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PlantBasedBriefing   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/plant-based-briefing/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/plantbasedbriefing/   

Join Lesley and Brad as they reflect on their interesting conversation with the late Tom Palladino, a pioneer in scalar light research. Tom shared insights into his passion for helping others through energy healing, his unwavering positivity, and his unwavering dedication to making a difference. Together, they dive into Tom's legacy and beliefs on eliminating distractions to embrace life's true calling, even amid skepticism.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Tom's journey and unwavering belief in scalar energy despite skepticismThe power of blocking out negativity to fuel self-belief and sustained motivationFinding happiness by setting small daily goals and embracing progressHow to move forward confidently without letting others' doubts detract from your vision.Episode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.comFlashcard Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourCadillac Flashcards - https://beitpod.com/cadillacflashcardsBalanced Body/Contrology Equipment - https://beitpod.com/equipmentScalar Light - https://www.scalarlight.comScalar Light Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/experiencescalarEp. 436 Lisa Schlosberg - https://beitpod.com/436 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy WebinarResources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  I'm intrigued by the claims that he was making, because I felt like, if it's reality, then it's amazing.Lesley Logan 0:08  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:50  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the interesting convo I had with Tom Paladino in our last episode. Here's the deal. Normally, this is where I say you should go listen to that one and you should. Unfortunately, our guest passed away two weeks after we interviewed them. However, their family still does their work, and so we decided to continue to share his work and his words with you. So go listen, and if you are still interested in what they do, the family actually still does the scalar work, and you can actually see it on their Facebook group. All right. So anyways, go listen. And now, today, I mean, it's just so interesting, I feel like I just need to take a beat. Brad Crowell 1:32  Yeah. Lesley Logan 1:32  We found out yesterday, before we recorded this, I interviewed a guy last year who was dying of cancer. I knew he was gonna die and his episode came out, he was still alive. And I was like, oh, you're still here. But I, that is, you know, you all think about that. We just think we're gonna live forever. So, anyways, he passed away from a fall. Brad Crowell 1:51  Yeah, he fell and that was it. Lesley Logan 1:53  Yeah, the family decided to donate his organs, which is really cool. And if you haven't yet done that on your driver's license or your iPhone. You should do that because. Brad Crowell 2:02  I think I have (inaudible) driver's license. Lesley Logan 2:04  But didn't you just do it on my health app on my iPhone?Brad Crowell 2:06  Yeah, but that's just to tell anyone who picks up your phone that you are an organ donor. It doesn't that's not a legal declaration. You need to do it through your driver's license.Lesley Logan 2:15  Well, I currently don't even have my driver's license, so. Brad left it in LA. Ah.Brad Crowell 2:23  Sure. Lesley Logan 2:23  All right. Well, with that, well go do that. Go notify the powers that be or at least your family and friends who have you know medical decisions over you. Today is November 7th and it is Project Management Day. About this day. It's International Project Management Day is celebrated annually on the first Thursday of November, and is all about appreciating the important role project managers play on organizations. This year it falls on November 7th. Without project managers, the huge projects companies take on will be, frankly, impossible to achieve. LaVerne Johnson and Lori Milhaven of the International Institute for Learning (I.I.L.) created this day to give project managers the spotlight and appreciation they deserve. Shout out to Meridith who keeps us all on point and on time if you listen to the end credits and if you don't know that line, you don't listen to the end credits, we caught you. Brad Crowell 3:10  Yeah, that's right. Lesley Logan 3:10  And you might not know, might not know a project manager in your life, but you might be one, and so you might be the person who's managing all the projects and the day and today is your day.Brad Crowell 3:19  Today is your day. Congratulations. Lesley Logan 3:22  Yeah, to Meridith. Also, we should acknowledge that we are recording this before the election and this episode is coming out after the election, so we are either celebrating like crazy or crying in a dark room. We don't know. Brad Crowell 3:36  It's true. That's very true. Lesley Logan 3:38  I think if you listen to last week's episode with Tia Levings and our recap there, you know, where our heart (inaudible) and also just the fact that we want all of you to live your best life, that should just give it away of where our heart desires (inaudible). And so. Brad Crowell 3:51  And we have rights. Yeah. Lesley Logan 3:52  Yeah. Rights. You know, that thing. And that everyone has equal opportunities to living an amazing life. Brad Crowell 3:58  And voting. Lesley Logan 3:59  Yeah. But that thing, voting, so many ways. I'm just gonna be really honest, I think we take a moment. In this moment, I could be eating my words. I actually think she's gonna slay. Brad Crowell 4:09  It's gonna be close. Lesley Logan 4:10  Fine. Well, that's because we have to get rid of Electoral College, that racist bullshit. Because if we got rid of that, none of us would be taking Prilosec every day. I just feel like a lot of people are excited to vote for her.Brad Crowell 4:10  Yeah, I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. Yeah. Lesley Logan 4:14  Yeah, but obviously it's too late to tell you to go vote. Don't vote now, that would be wrong. You should have voted, and if you didn't, you need to make a voting plan and need a project manager in your life. Brad Crowell 4:33  That's right. Lesley Logan 4:33  To make that happen. Brad Crowell 4:34  It's true. It's very true. Lesley Logan 4:36  Okay, we just, like, literally, in recording this, we actually just got back from Cambodia, but we've been back for a while when you hear this, and we are going again in February, and now is the perfect time to snag your spot. You may be wanting to escape, or you might want to celebrate all the possible awesome, amazing (inaudible) that are going to happen in a new democracy here in this, we don't know. We don't, I don't know what's happening in the world right now. But either way, Cambodia is a great place to go to.Brad Crowell 5:04  We had a largest group we've ever taken this past trip. Lesley Logan 5:07  Oh, my God. It was amazing. Brad Crowell 5:08  Yeah, it was, we had 21 guests. It was incredible and.Lesley Logan 5:13  No. We had 20.Brad Crowell 5:15  23 of us total. My guess.Lesley Logan 5:16  Yes, okay, okay, okay. Brad Crowell 5:18  And so it was great. It went off without a hitch. We had a great team around us, and incredible food, incredible experiences, amazing temple touring. You know, I was really proud of everybody on our team, and also I was really excited for everyone who joined us, because we lucked out with some of the weather. Obviously, that's one factor we cannot control, and it was a little bit overcast, which was quite nice for when we were out, which is usually like the hot sun, we were in a little bit of shade, so that was great. But we would love for you to join us in February, because this is the kind of trip that is a marker in your life. It will be pre-Cambodia and post-Cambodia. Lesley Logan 6:04  Oh, yeah. Brad Crowell 6:05  And you will talk about this trip for the rest of your life. Lesley Logan 6:07  You all have to just watch Ainsley stand in the rain. And she did that. She came to Cambodia and knows she want to do that, because (inaudible) Cambodia. I do the same workshops, you know, that I've done before. And so I just said to her hey, like, how was that? Because you already did these a year ago. She's like oh, I was such a different person a year ago. It was, like, a whole new experience, right? And we already have people on that one who are coming on the next one, they're already, like, knowing, they know they're doing it again, because it is truly life changing, and it's really spectacular. You just get so good at being so present. You, like, you can only be when you're there, and so it's fabulous. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot for February.Brad Crowell 6:45  Yeah, come join us. Lesley Logan 6:46  All right, I'm also getting ready to go to LA. I am gonna be camping at Brad's friend's house. I mean, they're my friends now. We've been married for nine years, so. Brad Crowell 6:54  It's true. They're your friends too. Camping is a funny way to say you're gonna use their guest bedroom. But, yeah, camping. Lesley Logan 7:01  Is it a guest bedroom, Brad? Brad Crowell 7:02  It's David's office. There's a pull-out couch. Lesley Logan 7:06  There's not a wall on one side. So I'm gonna call that glamping. But I'm doing that because I'm gonna do the photo shoot for the accessories deck in a couple of weeks, and that means we are getting that much closer to the accessories deck coming out the last deck, and this deck is gonna have the Sandbag, the Two by Four, the Toe Corrector, the push up devices, the Guillotine, the Ped-o-Pull, towel exercises, a pencil exercise, a marble exercise, tons of things you can make at home, only a few you'd actually have to buy. So majority of deck can be used by anybody. And it's really amazing for just supporting your practice if you've been wanting to do Pilates more often, but maybe you can't go to a studio that much like this deck is for you, so you want to be on the waitlist for that. But also the team and I are really trying to get this deck done, because we are tired of releasing decks in hurricane season, so I am on a mission to (inaudible). So instead of it being a late Q2 presale. It would be an early Q2 presale.  Brad Crowell 7:10  So that we can ship in the summer. Lesley Logan 8:04  Ship before hurricane season because, holy fucking moly, two hurricanes stop fulfillment wise back to back. Brad Crowell 8:12  Back to back. Oh and last year that happened too. Lesley Logan 8:15  Yeah, no, I'm done. We're done with that. We're not doing that anymore.Brad Crowell 8:18  This year was two, two in a row within one month, there was two (inaudible). Lesley Logan 8:22  Yeah, three decks got out in between hurricanes. It was, I mean, everyone's safe. I can't complain. Our decks are safe. We are very, very lucky. But also, I'll be honest with our listeners, some people aren't fucking patient, and the nasty emails of impatient people, I'm like, Helene has caught, all of our people had to evacuate, so they're not at work right now, and UPS is not delivering, so you just need to take a beat and just pray that everyone's safe, and then they'll be delivering shortly. But you know, some people just aren't patient. Most of our listeners are. Thank you so much. But anyways, so that's how I really feel about that opc.me/flashcardwaitlist gets you on the waitlist. Why do you wanna be on the waitlist? Because the waitlist gets the best sale price of the decks ever. Brad Crowell 9:07  It's the truth. (inaudible) Lesley Logan 9:08  So because you'll be the ones who are patiently waiting through hurricane season, okay, no, you won't. We're gonna, we're gonna beat it to it. Then, Brad, you want to take it over? Brad Crowell 9:16  Yeah, totally. Okay. We are back and I am back in my routine doing some webinars here, I'm really excited to be able to share the top three things that Lesley and I have learned after coaching more than 2000 businesses. These are the three things that move the needle on how do you grow your income in your studio, whether that is a home studio, a brick and mortar studio, whether you're renting from somebody and I want you to join me. It's a free webinar. It's called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator and it's only an hour. We shortened it. I was doing an hour and a half before, and I just realized it was too long. So come join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator that is profit without the O, prfit.biz/accelerator and get yourself signed up for free. Come join me, and I can't wait to dig into this topic with you and share these things that we've learned with you, and then, around the corner before we even realize it.Lesley Logan 10:13  Oh my gosh, it's a month from this release. Brad Crowell 10:16  It's so true. Lesley Logan 10:17  Like, the first stop is on the sixth of December. So it's in one month, the winter tour. You guys, you have to come.Brad Crowell 10:24  Yeah, come party with us. It's going to be so fun. Lesley Logan 10:27  We have 23 cities at the time we're recording this, seven cities are sold out of classes. Brad Crowell 10:31  I can't even believe it, literally, on the very, y'all are impressive, okay. On the very first day that we announced that there was tickets, three spots sold out within 24 hours? Lesley Logan 10:41  Three cities sold out in 24 hours. Yes, yes. And five within 48 and now we're at and then Boston sold out in 24 hours of it being announced. So you guys, I can't even list the cities without looking at it, so just go opc.me/tour (inaudible). We're starting in Sedona, we're doing Oklahoma City. And then I forget the third, is the New Orleans the third one? Brad Crowell 11:05  No, Memphis.Lesley Logan 11:06  Memphis. Brad Crowell 11:06  And then Huntsville. Lesley Logan 11:07  And then Huntsville, Alabama. Brad Crowell 11:09  Yeah, New Orleans is on the way home. Lesley Logan 11:10  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then from Huntsville, Alabama, I. Brad Crowell 11:13  Atlanta, Greensboro, Washington DC, I think Pennsylvania, before (inaudible).Lesley Logan 11:18  And then Maine and then Boston, and then Cape. Brad Crowell 11:21  Cape Cod. Lesley Logan 11:22  When's Providence? Brad Crowell 11:23  After that. Lesley Logan 11:24  After that. Greenwich. Brad Crowell 11:25  Yes. Lesley Logan 11:26  Then we have Christmas and then, and then, from Christmas. Brad Crowell 11:30  We're going down, I think, I don't know if we have a stop in Delaware. I think we're just going to Delaware to see the fam. Lesley Logan 11:35  No stop in Delaware. Brad Crowell 11:36  And then we go down to South Carolina. Lesley Logan 11:38  Yeah, Charleston, Miami, Tampa, Pensacola. Brad Crowell 11:42  Yep, then Pensacola, New Orleans, Austin, Dallas, Lubbock. We have Lubbock.Lesley Logan 11:50  Yeah. They promised me a good latte. They said they have it. They said it's a college town.Brad Crowell 11:55  Lubbock and then. Lesley Logan 11:56  Phoenix. Brad Crowell 11:57  Yeah, then we're gonna go over to Phoenix. Lesley Logan 11:58  We just named them. Brad Crowell 11:59  I can't believe it. I think that's 23 (inaudible) we may have, I think we got them all. Lesley Logan 12:02  I hope we didn't miss any. (inaudible) Anyways, if we missed you, you must be sold out. Brad Crowell 12:07  It's gonna be amazing. We kick off the beginning of December, and we literally Lesley Logan 12:10  (inaudible) Virginia Beach. Brad Crowell 12:11  Oh, that's where it was. Virginia Beach. Okay. 34 days on the road y'all. 34 days on the road. So come hang out with us.Lesley Logan 12:20  We're gonna love each other more or. Just saying.Brad Crowell 12:24  Yeah, and we will be bringing our pups, two of them this time, obviously, but they'll be with us.Lesley Logan 12:28  Oh, I don't think we've told everyone we said goodbye to Gaia. I don't think, we did it online only, we didn't tell our listeners.Brad Crowell 12:35  Well, if you haven't heard it's been a month since us recording this, Gaia has taken the rainbow road. Lesley Logan 12:42  Yes, the rainbow bridge. Brad Crowell 12:44  It's been a challenging, one of the most challenging decisions that I've ever had to make in my life, but she's in a better place so. Lesley Logan 12:53  Yeah. And also, our boys are really quiet and you know that from listening to podcasts since she's fast there's no flapping of her collar or digging at the chair. Brad Crowell 13:06  Or scratching at the door or barking at nothing.Lesley Logan 13:11  We also have a little bit more time. It's really weird. I miss her, though. It's so I look at the art, the artist is fucking awesome for this tour. You guys. It's like a rap album. It's fucking off. Brad Crowell 13:20  Yeah, it's fun. Lesley Logan 13:21  And I actually had to look at it before she passed away, and I, because I had to approve it, and I didn't want you to see it, and I had to approve it without her on it. And I was like, so anyway, she's not on it, and people are like, oh, there's only two, but there's two boys, they can't wait to see you and it's gonna be a lot of fun. So opc.me/tour to get your tickets, workshops are all levels, so you don't have to be a teacher to get them. There are CECs if you are a teacher. Brad Crowell 13:48  Even the classes are also all levels. So yeah. Lesley Logan 13:49  Classes are all levels. So come, come, come, trust me. Brad Crowell 13:51  Even if you're brand new. Lesley Logan 13:53  Oh yeah. I have literally had a class of eight teachers and two first timers, and let me tell you, they slayed. So, me too. So go to opc.me/tour this is the winter tour, we talked about this before, it is awesome, because it's either the best excuse to get you away from your family during the holidays, or it allows you to bring your family with you and you have a shared experience. But I'll entertain them for a couple of hours. You don't have to do anything. So, yeah.Brad Crowell 14:17  Awesome. Well, before we move into talking about Tom and digging into scalar light, we had an audience question. So Theresa8294 on YouTube asks, hey, Lesley, on a Balanced Body Allegro 1 Tower, which springs are leg springs and which springs are arm springs? Here's what I have. I have the long yellow and purple and I have the shorter yellow and red.Lesley Logan 14:17  Yeah, I love this question. For any Balanced Body piece that's not Contrology, it's always these springs.Brad Crowell 14:33  And if you have no idea what any of this means, I mean. Lesley Logan 14:41  That means you're not doing Pilates. So here you go. So first of all, I just want you to know, on in the Cadillac tower flashcard deck we actually explain which springs to use and where to put them on your Tower or your Cadillac, so that you have the right angles, because the angles make all the difference, okay? So I literally give you the measurements. You can measure to make sure you're using the right hook or the, putting your sliding bar at the correct place. As far as the springs go, the purple springs are going to be your leg springs, and the long yellow I would use those as leg springs if you are like, if the purple springs feel like they're pushing you around, but ideally, you're at the purple springs because we need to help you get up and down off a toilet or off the ground. Okay, so I don't typically use the long yellow unless I have someone who's just really can't do the purple. The short yellow are great for arm springs. The red springs are used for your push through bar. Now, I'm gonna say all that, and I'm gonna say I really love the CenterLine® from Balanced Body. That line has gray springs, and I recommend getting two sets, one set for your rollback bar, one set for your arm spring, and ditch those short yellows. They're really light. So that's my opinion. And you can use our affiliate link to buy anything that you want over at Balanced Body and Contrology and that's what you do. So there you go.Brad Crowell 16:07  All right, now, let's talk about Tom Paladino. Tom was a passionate and positive scalar light researcher dedicated to making the world a better place, inspired by Nikola Tesla and guided by the legacy of Dr. T. Galen Hieronymus, he developed advanced scalar light instruments that enhanced health, balanced energy fields and neutralized over 400,000 pathogens Driven by his commitment to positive change, Tom used scalar energy to improve both the physical and emotional wellbeings of others. Yeah.Lesley Logan 16:37  Yeah. So, you guys, it would, you send, you can still email a picture of you or your loved ones, and then he, if you look in the YouTube video, you can see the tool that he uses behind him, and it, it's really quite, quite crazy, like he could just touch it, and it turned, I, this is where I'm gonna be really honest. This is where, you guys, I discovered that you could just do study hall in high school. I didn't do, I didn't do physics. I, also when quantum was added to the math class, I was out on that. So this is really over, over my educational head. Brad Crowell 17:14  I'm just gonna go with I'm 1000% skeptical on this entire thing. Lesley Logan 17:19  Right. But then I went on his Facebook page to look about his passing, and everybody is like, you healed this sister, you healed this person. Here's the thing, I also think a lot of people could say that about, you know, we've had Louise Swartswalter on and there's a couple other people that. Brad Crowell 17:35  Yeah, I, that doesn't, none of that, like, this to me, I can't understand. I struggle when people tell me that science hasn't caught up to this science yet. Lesley Logan 17:44  That's true. That is (inaudible).Brad Crowell 17:45  So you know, as soon as you go down that road. I'm like, is this a cult? You know? So. Lesley Logan 17:51  He, yeah, I agree. Because also now when people don't believe in science, I get a little skeptical of them, but he's not not believe in science. He just said science doesn't caught up to him. Brad Crowell 17:58  I know. So it's like walking a fine line, and there's definitely some logic behind it. But then there are some complete leaps and bounds of faith that you have to have that, for example, that your aura is associated with a photo. Lesley Logan 18:13  Right. That, that's true. Brad Crowell 18:14  I don't know if I can reconcile that. I don't understand how, I understand how a body, a physical being, has an aura because we emit energy. But when you take a photo of that body, then there's. Lesley Logan 18:25  I know, well I don't. Brad Crowell 18:26  Not sure I'm on the same page there.Lesley Logan 18:27  Isn't the Aborigines who are like against you taking a photo of them because they feel like it takes something of your soul. Here's the thing about faith, according to Tia Levings that's what you need for a lot of things. And so if this sounds cool to you, that's cool to me. If you're skeptical, it's also okay. I think it's okay. I think there's nothing wrong with being skeptical at somebody. But here's the deal, so he says quantum healing is not physical.Brad Crowell 18:27  Well, before we go even into that, I think we can say that he 1000% believed in what he did that was very clear, and he also was.Lesley Logan 18:43  There's something very inspiring about that. Brad Crowell 19:00  And he also was very positive and came across very kind. So I'm intrigued by the claims that he was making, because I felt like, if it's reality, then it's amazing.Lesley Logan 19:12  Right. I agree it would be really, really cool if it works, and also if it and for the people who had to work for like that, I don't want to take that away from them. So at any rate, I had talked to him about how he does his day and what's going on, because he claims, like, I've never been sick. I'm never on any medication. And here's the thing, he didn't die from an illness. He died from a fall. This is the, that's like, the fucking ironic, you know? So that's when you're like, wow, I don't know if it's your turn, I guess, but it's, I find it really fascinating. So yes, you send your, you email them your picture, and you can email, you told me, I can email a picture of Gaia. I didn't, because I knew what we're doing, and I was like, we can save the prayer of something we have to make a decision on. But so many people on that Facebook page have sent pictures and really credit what he does as work that has helped people in their lives or themselves with their health stuff. So I think that's really cool. He also really credits his wife Nita, who, I read her post about their love and oh my god, so beautiful that. Anyways, she mandated his diet, and he didn't overeat, and he exercised daily, and he was happy and doctors said he was also very healthy. So, you know, I will say, I think several times I try to figure out what it was, and I really had a hard time getting out what the scalar light is, scalar energy is. But I'll say, for a lot of these, would you call it, not worldly, but these other type of exercises out there, I still feel like I don't really get great answers out of I don't feel like the definitions are there, and maybe because it's still being defined. So I really can't give a better description, unless you have a better description of what I listened to. Brad Crowell 20:54  No. I mean, I think it's a conversation worth exploring and understand, like, beginning to understand. Lesley Logan 21:00  Well, I kind of, like, if it really does work, it would be really cool if science would just test it out. That could be really cool. And so his family is still doing it, so maybe that could be an option. Brad Crowell 21:09  Yeah. Well, he talked about quantum healing, not being physical healing. And I don't really understand that, but he said the energy from the sun. Lesley Logan 21:16  Well, I think it means he's not touching you, so he's praying over your picture, but he's not physically touching you. You don't have to go to him. That's the thing that's actually really accessible about it, is that you don't have to go to a doctor if you have a rare cancer and you are going to go to the one doctor who does it, you have to fly there. He doesn't have, that's how I took the physical. Brad Crowell 21:35  Yeah, okay, that actually makes sense. But he was talking about the energy, effectively, the machine he built is harnessing energy from the sun, and then he's passing your photo through the fields that are being collected from this machine that he built. And, yeah. Lesley Logan 21:53  Yeah. Watch the YouTube. Go see it. Brad Crowell 21:55  Yeah. Lesley Logan 21:56  He showed me. Brad Crowell 21:57  He did. I saw it. I saw it.Lesley Logan 22:00  Well, what did you like? Let's move on to what you like.Brad Crowell 22:02  I like that you kept asking him questions about him instead of questions about what he does. Lesley Logan 22:08  I just, well, I think also I really like to know the people behind the things. I find that helps me understand especially when I'm like, I couldn't wrap my head around it. And so then I was like, okay, well, I can't wrap my head around it, so let me get to know the person who's behind it, because I also thought Pilates was shit, and then I really liked it, and then people who doubt what Pilates is but they really like me. So I feel like I can't stand here and be too skeptical of something, because there's plenty of people who are very skeptical at what I do, and there's not a lot of scientific studies about what Pilates does because the ones that are out there, they're doing exercises that I don't even teach. So there's actually no scientific study on exactly what I do, saying the claims that I have. So, you know.Brad Crowell 22:50  Yeah, I get that, but there's also a lot of logic involved in Pilates. Look, you asked him about passion. And he said passion is the reason why people get up, why they go to school, why they work, why they have kids, why they get married, etc. And he really encouraged people to believe in God, believe in yourself, to have goals and have objectives. You kind of asked him about skeptics of his work, and he said, with absolute confidence, that you cannot listen to the negativity of the unbelievers effectively. He said he experiences comments like that all the time about his work, but he never lost sleep over them. And I felt like that was actually really. Lesley Logan 22:51  We all learned something from that. Brad Crowell 22:52  That's important. It really is, you know, because there will always be people who are going to derail you or try to derail you, whether or not they're being intentionally malicious or ignorantly maligning, you know, or dis-railing you, there are people who are going to take you off the path, right? And that could be people who love and support you, but are afraid of you, and they're projecting their own fear into this situation, right? And they're telling you to be careful and be cautious and don't do the thing because, or maybe it's like your parents who were like, you want to be an artist, you got to go get a real job, right? So it's 100% what he's saying. I believe that. If you subscribe to what the negative people are going to say, or people who are projecting that fear on to the thing that you're chasing that will derail you totally. Ask any professional athlete, did they have to be single-minded and put the blinders on and not listen to the community they grew up in, or the people that are in their household, or the whatever. I'm sure they would agree with this as well.Lesley Logan 24:39  Yeah, yeah. I think so. I think we get all, take that as a great takeaway. You've got to have passion for what you're doing. Otherwise, like, what are what are we doing?Brad Crowell 24:47  Yeah.Lesley Logan 24:48  And if you don't have passion, because you like, I am a trash collector. I make great money, and it pays my bills, take care of my kids, I have health insurance, I can have this house on my head, then be passionate about your kids, or be passionate about a hobby you have. It's okay to just do a job, but we all have to have some passion in life, otherwise we're kind of just going through the motions. And so if you haven't found something you're passionate about, maybe you're passionate about donating your time to the animals and walking foster care dogs or something like that. I promise you, it gives you a lot of life. And I will say Tom is very vibrant and energetic. He was so passionate. It was both times I've talked to him, because I talked to him before we got him on the pod, I was like, I don't really get this, but he really cares.Brad Crowell 25:28  Yeah. And he said, if you follow your purpose in life, that's it, remove all the extraneous noise. So yeah. In that sense, he definitely took his own advice, and I'm excited. I think that's positive. I think that's helpful.Lesley Logan 25:43  You guys, this is two weeks before he passed away. Like what great advice that we could all learn from even if we don't use scalar energy.Brad Crowell 25:50  Yeah. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 25:53  All right. So finally, let's talk about those, be it action items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Tom Paladino? He said you have to be happy in life. If you want to change your life, you need to take gradual steps, one goal a day, one small goal a day. Imagine if you have only one goal, just one improvement a day, and only do that Monday through Friday, that's 200 if you only do those small improvements Monday through Friday, you're at 200 improvements a year or in business, whether that's in your home life, your family life, or your social life. And he said, imagine 8 billion people experiencing benefits every single day around the world, if we were focusing on progress, on one goal a day. And he said, that's what the world is missing. Now we need to stop fighting each other, and we need to have progress. We need to make progress. Lesley Logan 26:45  I love all of this. I just told our agency members during their breath work session at the end, I was like, you're all doing too much. If you just did one thing each day the rest of the year, that'd be on the day that we're recording this. I mean, 92 things, right? That was October 1st and December 31st, like, 92 things. It's a ton of things. That is so many things. I bet you don't even have 92 things on your to do list. We just cleared it, but you're trying to do 17 things in one day. That's why you're fucking it up. And so I really like that. I like that action item. Brad Crowell 27:14  Yeah, I think that's, an incredible addition to it is, you know, we pile so much on our plates, and we've got like 10 projects we've got to start or do or tackle, or do finish or whatever. And what if we just did one of them, just did one and got to the point where it was finished and we start the next one, we'll probably actually finish all 10 projects faster than if we try to juggle them all at the same time. Lesley Logan 27:39  Is that, are you looking in the mirror when you say that? Brad Crowell 27:42  Yeah, I was looking right past myself.Lesley Logan 27:44  Someone has a Be It Action Item for themselves. Okay, my turn. He said change for the better. In order to make an improvement, we have to change. If things aren't working out, we have to change. Take small steps towards improvement even if it means doing something new or unfamiliar. And we just released an episode literally October 22nd, Lisa Schlosberg said, "You are uncomfortable, not unsafe." So when you are making these different changes and you're doing something that's new or unfamiliar, it can make you uncomfortable, but you're not unsafe. And when you do those things, you change for the better. So I'm like adding a little of this and a little of this, and I'm making it all up. I really love it. Lesley Logan 28:25  So anyways, I think fascinating conversation, very interesting. If you try it out, let us know how it goes. To Tom's family, who's working on it, I'm really sorry, because he was so passionate. What kind of amazing energy and positive energy to be around all the time. That is a loss. And he cared so much for so many. He is praying for so many people. So I know that is never gonna get easy to have said goodbye to him so soon or ever. But Tom, thanks for sharing your energy and passion with us, and I think we all can like have a little takeaway of something you said. So, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 29:00  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:01  Thank you so much for listening to our episodes. We love you. We have something really fun and exciting coming up with the December episode. So stay tuned. Brad might not even know what we're doing, but we're about to record some fun stuff and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 29:15  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 29:17  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Proton pump inhibitors have long been the mainstay of treatment for gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD), dating back to omeprazole (Prilosec)'s initial approval in 1989. However, the treatment landscape has undergone its first major changes in the past 30 years with the emergence of vonoprazan (Voquezna). A novel, first-in-class small molecule potassium-competitive acid blocker (PCAB), vonoprazan now boasts 3 US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approvals across both erosive and non-erosive GERD. Less than a year after earning approval for the healing and maintenance of healing of all grades of erosive GERD as well as the relief of heartburn associated with erosive GERD, vonoprazan has also been approved for the treatment of heartburn in non-erosive GERD.

See all the Healthcasts at https://www.biobalancehealth.com/healthcast-blog I bet you have heard the idiom, “There is no free lunch”, or  “There is no medication without a side effect”, but did you know that medications that are prescribed by your doctor can have negative effects on your health that are never even discussed with you….so you should protect yourself by replacing the nutrients that your medications  remove from your body, and that must be replaced for you to be healthy. Statins -→ COQ 10 DEFICIENCY= fatigue and depression Beta Blockers -→ COQ-10 DEFICIENCY= fatigue and depression Oral contraceptives and oral estrogen/progestins-→ COQ-10 DEFICIENCY= fatigue and depression Antidepressants called SSRIs-→ COQ-10 DEFICIENCY= fatigue and depression Dosage: If you take any of these medications you need to take COQ10 200-400 mg/day every day! Thiazide Diuretics=HCTZ -→ Magnesium and Zinc Deficiency muscle spasms, prostate issues, constipation Take 50 mg of Zinc and 400-600 mg of Magnesium Glycinate a day to replace what is lost. NSAIDS (Motrin, Advil, Aleve, Ibuprofen, Meloxicam, Naproxen, Indomethecin, Daypro, Mefenamic acid, Voltaren)-→ malabsorption, depression, anxiety, and the vitamin and mineral deficiencies listed: Folic Acid Deficiency- Take Methyl- Folate 500 mg Iron Deficiency—Take Iron Bisglycinate (Ferrabsorb) Vitamin C deficiency—Take Vitamin C 500-1000 mg/day Amino acid deficiency—take Arginine +/- Ornithine. OR change your medication to Celebrex 200-400 BID  PPIs=Proton Pump Inhibitors (Omeprazole, Prilosec, Pantoprazole, Lansoprazole, Protonix) are taken for stomach ulcers, H. Pylori infection and gastric reflux PPIs Increase Homocysteine which increases your risk of stroke, MI, and Pulmonary embolism.  PPIs decrease the absorption of many nutrients.  They actually cause malabsorption of essential nutrients.   Replace these nutrients with supplements, but much of what you take won't be absorbed unless you take daily Probiotics:  B12 – take methyl B12 1000 mcg/day Folate – take as methyl folate 5,000mcg/day Vitamin D – take 5,000 IU/day Note: PPIs can even cause the growth of dangerous gut bacteria causing chronic Hemophilus. If you have chronic vaginitis that smells fishy, it could be your PPIs! If you have this stop the PPI, take Pepcid instead (histamine receptor blocker) or nothing and take probiotics to repair the damage the PPIs have caused. These nutrients need to be replaced to keep you healthy, however it is better for most patients to only take PPIs for 2 weeks at a time or substitute a histamine receptor blocker like: Pepcid, Zofran. Surgery It is not just the medications doctors prescribe for their patients; sometimes surgical procedures can cause chronic diseases through preventing nutritional nutrients to enter your body.   Removal of the gall bladder must be done, yet patients are not told what they can do to be healthy after the surgery. The gall bladder provides enzymes that help you breakdown foods, primarily fats and absorb fatty vitamins from your food and supplements.  If you have had your gallbladder removed you can become nutritionally deficient in A, D, E fat soluble vitamins, and you will promote the growth of abnormal gut bacteria and are at risk for leaky gut, Celiac disease, autoimmune diseases and malnutrition. Everyone who has their gallbladder removed should take digestive enzymes with every meal and take Probiotics daily. Bariatric Surgery for Obesity The last iatrogenic nutritional deficiency that I will discuss is Bariatric surgeries, all kinds that remove part of the stomach, or band the stomach or in any way physically makes the stomach smaller is related to nutritional deficiencies caused by malabsorption of vitamins and minerals.  The way to combat these deficiencies include taking: a probiotic daily digestive enzymes with every meal and all vitamins should be chewable or sublingual to be absorbed from the mucosa of the mouth  In Conclusion: Remember I am a physician, and my job is to promote wellness in my patients.  It is sometimes more important and lifesaving to take the above medications or have these surgeries, than to prevent a nutritional deficiency in the future.  We must follow those medical decisions with trouble shooting addition of nutritional supplementation to replace what these necessary medications and surgeries remove.  That is preventive medicine and why supplementation is often needed for our health.  

Send us a Text Message.S5,  EP 166Special Guest - Gina Scarpa:This episode we chat about finding your own Multiverse version of you inside the scripts, stepping into your own authentic self and not caring too much about what others think, staying positive is a choice that we choose every day, and keep moving forward no matter what!Gina Scarpa is an accomplished professional voiceover artist and award winning coach and director. She has spent decades in radio broadcasting and voice acting and is proud to have voiced national TV and radio commercials, video game characters, and corporate content for some of the biggest brands in the country. Some of Gina's happy clients include Nintendo, Xfinity, VistaPrint, Hungryroot, Orangetheory, Instacart, Uber, Prilosec, CVS, and more.Gina is the 2023 One Voice Award winner for Best Female Gaming Performance for her role as Sara Kaasen in The Walking Dead: Last Mile. You can also hear her in Fortnite, Genshin Impact, Minecraft Dungeons & Dragons, and more games coming this year.She is the founder, owner, and Creative Director of Positive Voices Studio which provides voiceover casting, audio production, and writing services as well as educational programsPositive Voices Studio -  https://positivevoicesct.com/Support the Show.This is a shareable podcast, with a group of creatives, documenting their creative voice over & on-camera journeys to inspire all of us as we navigate our own paths! This pod may bring golden nuggets of wisdom, yet is not an education based show. Follow all the Chaos - Website - https://www.keepingupwithchaos.net/ FB - https://www.facebook.com/keepingupwithchaospodcastIG - https://www.instagram.com/keeping_up_with_chaos/

While modern medicine is definitely a wonder, it isn't always working to help your body. Chronic use of medicines like ibuprofen (Advil), acetaminophen (Tylenol), and proton pump inhibitors (Prilosec, Nexium, Prevacid, etc.) come with some nasty side effects that you might not know about. Inside this episode, you'll discover the potentially negative consequences of popping these pills daily, as well as what you can do to maximize your body's function and health without them -- pain-free! --- Show Notes: Your Daily Ibuprofen is Wrecking Your Gut! Tylenol SUCKS For Your Liver Pharmacology of Proton Pump Inhibitors Review of the Long-Term Effects of Proton Pump Inhibitors Proton pump inhibitors and dementia: A nationwide population-based study Join my pH Balance DIY Program - and get off the PPIs for good! --- Join the Compass Method DIY Program Jump inside my Rock the Bloat Minicourse Get my Core-Gi Workout Program with the exclusive listener discount! Join my Brain Rewiring Masterclass You can learn more about me by following on IG @imperfectlypaigewellness or by checking out my blog, freebies, and offers on my website: https://imperfectlypaigewellness.com Please share with #PaigeTalksWellness to help get the word out about the show - and join the Imperfect Health Fam over on Facebook.

Key takeaways you'll learn in this episode: What most doctors get wrong about stomach acid. What is an Alkaline diet and why is your PH Balance important? What causes Acid Reflux and how can you improve it? Dr. Daryl Gioffre's two-week protocol to improve leaky gut. Get weekly tips from Gary Brecka on how to optimize your health and lifestyle routines - go to ⁠https://www.theultimatehuman.com/⁠ For more info on Gary, please click here:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/thegarybrecka Order The 1 Genetic Test That Will Give You Results For Life Here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://10xhealthnetwork.com/pages/genetic-testing?utm_source=gbrecka⁠⁠⁠ Get The Supplements That Gary Recommends Here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://10xhealthnetwork.com/pages/supplements?utm_source=gbrecka⁠ Sign up for 10X Health Affiliate Program ⁠https://10xhealthsystem.com/GBaffiliate⁠ ECHO GO PLUS HYDROGEN WATER BOTTLE ⁠http://echowater.com⁠ BODY HEALTH - USE CODE ULTIMATE10 for 10% OFF YOUR ORDER ⁠https://bodyhealth.com/ultimate⁠ Are you struggling with acid reflux or digestive issues? Gary Brecka is sitting down with Dr. Daryl Gioffre about natural ways to improve gut health and reduce acidity. Dr. Daryl Gioffre is a functional nutritionist, board-certified chiropractor, and anti-inflammation expert. He specializes in the alkaline/acid diet and is the author of, “Get Off Your Acid.” He's also the founder of the supplement line Alkamind, and known as, “The Celebrity Nutritionist!” They're diving into food sensitivities, the best (and easiest) ways to support healthy stomach acid, and how to gradually get off dangerous PPIs. He also shares his personal story of how he became obsessed with helping people improve from the inside out with his holistic approach to restoring balance and digestive wellness through lifestyle changes! 01:00 - Who is Dr. Daryl Gioffre, “The Celebrity Nutritionist?” 03:30 - Why does he focus on eliminating sugar as a first step? 07:00 - What is an Alkaline diet and why is your PH Balance important? 14:00 - The best morning routine for treating deficiency and toxicity.  20:00 - How stomach acid works and what it takes for it to be healthy. 23:30 - What is causing food sensitivities? 25:30 - What causes Acid Reflux and how to improve it? 27:30 - Dr. Daryl's turning point, seeing acid reflux lead to cancer in his father. 33:45 - Easy first steps to improve your stomach acidity. 39:00 - Why you shouldn't quit proton-pump inhibitors cold turkey. (Tums, Prilosec, etc.) 44:30 - What supplements should people take to rebuild a healthy gut? 50:00 - When is it safe to stop taking PPIs? (Acid Reflux Medications) 58:30 - What causes a leaky? 59:00 - Dr. Daryl's two-week protocol to improve leaky gut. (Liquid Alo Vera + Bio-Active Silver Hydrosol) 01:06:00 - What is “Alkamind” and why did he create his products? Connect with Dr. Daryl Gioffre on Instagram: @drdarylgioffre ⁠https://www.instagram.com/drdarylgioffre/⁠ Get Your Ultimate Human Customized Gut Lab Package with Dr. Daryl (Discounted Rate) ⁠https://l.bttr.to/TTJSr⁠  Check Out Dr. Daryl's Supplements Here: ⁠https://www.getoffyouracid.com/?afmc=2o&utm_campaign=2o&utm_source=leaddyno&utm_medium=affiliate⁠ Gary Brecka: ⁠@garybrecka⁠ The Ultimate Human: ⁠@ultimatehumanpod⁠ Subscribe on YouTube: ⁠@ultimatehumanpodcast⁠ The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user's own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the 26th episode in my drug name pronunciation series.  Today, we're talking about omeprazole (Prilosec ®).   If you're new to my drug name pronunciation series, welcome! In this episode, I divide omeprazole and Prilosec into syllables, explain which syllables to emphasize, and tell you where I found the information.  Seeing the written pronunciations is helpful, so the written pronunciations are below and in the show notes on thepharmacistsvoice.com.   The purpose of my pronunciation episodes is to provide the intended pronunciations of drug names from reliable sources so you feel more confident saying them and less frustrated learning them.   Omeprazole = oh-MEP-ra-zole, emphasize MEP   Prilosec = PRY-lo-sec, emphasize PRY   Thank you for listening to episode 265 of The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast!   To read the FULL show notes, visit https://www.thepharmacistsvoice.com.  Click the Podcast tab, and select episode 265.   Subscribe to or follow The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast to get each new episode delivered to your podcast player and YouTube every time a new one comes out!     Apple Podcasts   https://apple.co/42yqXOG  Google Podcasts  https://bit.ly/3J19bws  Spotify  https://spoti.fi/3qAk3uY  Amazon/Audible  https://adbl.co/43tM45P YouTube https://bit.ly/43Rnrjt   Links from this episode USP Dictionary Online (aka “USAN”)  **Subscription-based resource USP Dictionary's (USAN) pronunciation guide (Free resource on the American Medical Association's website) Prilosec medication guide on the FDA's website (Located after Section 17: pt counseling info) The Pharmacist's Voice Podcast Episode 263, pronunciation series episode 25 (PDE-5 inhibitors) The Pharmacist's Voice Podcast Episode 259, pronunciation series episode 24 (ketorolac) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 254, pronunciation series episode 23 (Paxlovid) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 250, pronunciation series episode 22 (metformin/Glucophage) The Pharmacist's Voice Podcast ® episode 245, pronunciation series episode 21 (naltrexone/Vivitrol) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 240, pronunciation series episode 20 (levalbuterol) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 236, pronunciation series episode 19 (phentermine)  The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 228, pronunciation series episode 18 (ezetimibe) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 219, pronunciation series episode 17 (semaglutide) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 215, pronunciation series episode 16 (mifepristone and misoprostol) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 211, pronunciation series episode 15 (Humira®) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 202, pronunciation series episode 14 (SMZ-TMP) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 198, pronunciation series episode 13 (carisoprodol) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 194, pronunciation series episode 12 (tianeptine) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 188, pronunciation series episode 11 (insulin icodec)  The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 184, pronunciation series episode 10 (phenytoin and isotretinoin) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 180, pronunciation series episode 9 Apretude® (cabotegravir) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 177, pronunciation series episode 8 (metoprolol)  The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 164, pronunciation series episode 7 (levetiracetam) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 159, pronunciation series episode 6 (talimogene laherparepvec or T-VEC)  The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 155, pronunciation series episode 5 Trulicity® (dulaglutide)  The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 148, pronunciation series episode 4 Besponsa® (inotuzumab ozogamicin) The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 142, pronunciation series episode 3 Zolmitriptan and Zokinvy The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 138, pronunciation series episode 2 Molnupiravir and Taltz The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast episode 134, pronunciation series episode 1 Eszopiclone and Qulipta

Have you been finding yourself reaching for the Tums or the Prilosec more often lately? Are you starting to feel those familiar, dreaded sensations again: the burning or aches in your chest or throat, the sour or acidic taste in your mouth? Do you think twice about laying down on the couch or trying to go to bed early because you're just not sure how your stomach and throat are going to feel? In this show, our dietitians will be putting on their detective hats to help you figure out why your heartburn may be back and give you some options for finding relief.  

Have you been finding yourself reaching for the Tums or the Prilosec more often lately? Are you starting to feel those familiar, dreaded sensations again: the burning or aches in your chest or throat, the sour or acidic taste in your mouth? Do you think twice about laying down on the couch or trying to go to bed early because you're just not sure how your stomach and throat are going to feel? In this show, our dietitians will be putting on their detective hats to help you figure out why your heartburn may be back and give you some options for finding relief.  

Stomach acid–blocking proton pump inhibitor drugs—PPIs with brand names like Prilosec, Prevacid, Nexium, Protonix, and AcipHex—appear to significantly increase the risk of bone fractures.

In today's critical episode of 'The Adams Archive,' Austin Adams takes the mic to dissect immediate breaking news, along with a deep dive into the harrowing events of a recent mass shooting at a bowling alley perpetrated by a military reservist. In a world where patterns begin to form and questions arise, Austin embarks on a journey to uncover the truth, questioning the potential ties to MKUltra-like manipulation and highlighting the unnerving consistency of psychiatric medications linked to these tragic incidents. As the clock struck 11 p.m. Eastern Time, Austin brings to the forefront the breaking news that has just unfolded - the United States launching airstrikes in the Middle East, targeting Iranian-backed military entities. The urgency in Austin's voice reflects the gravity of the situation, as he analyses the initial reports and contemplates the potential repercussions of these military actions. The episode also revisits the ongoing and tumultuous Israel-Palestine conflict, shedding light on the varying and often extreme perspectives that have been shared in the heat of the moment. Austin ensures that no stone is left unturned, no opinion ignored, as he strives to provide a balanced and critical analysis of the situation.   All the links: https://linktr.ee/theaustinjadams Substack: https://Austinadams.substack.com ----more---- Full Transcription   Hello, you beautiful people, and welcome to The Adams Archive. My name is Austin Adams, and thank you so much for listening today. On today's episode, we have some immediate breaking news, which we will get to in just a moment. We will also be discussing the recent mass shooting that happened at a bowling alley by a military reservist. From that, we will discuss some of the history surrounding some of these actions, where some are suspecting that there's some sort of MKUltra type of tie in. I don't know exactly what I believe, but we'll watch about some of that, but I do know what I believe about this, which is that it seems like a pretty consistent pattern that we're seeing every single time we see one of these mass shootings, which is that one month. Or multiple types of psychiatric medications are included for almost every single one of them. So, we will discuss that, some other people calling about that, and then jumping into what that breaking news is. So, just moments ago, in the last 20 minutes as I am speaking here this evening at approximately 11 p. m. Eastern Time, the United States has officially launched attacks in the Middle East. Bombing. In conducting airstrikes against what they are saying is Iranian backed military organizations. So we'll look at what has come out so far on that and what the potential implications of that is. Because to me, this seems like Everything that we thought and feared about all of the current military engagements and what could come of it are coming true. So, on the back of that, we will jump into some of the discussions around the, you know, continuing updates and some more of this will be just kind of around the The commentary that's happening around the Israel and Palestinian conflict. So we'll discuss some of that. Um, some of the crazy statements people are saying, um, on both sides that I completely disagree with. So all of that and more, but first go ahead and hit that subscribe button. I would appreciate it from the bottom of my heart. If you are already subscribed to leave a five star review, it's about the only way that we can get up in the rankings is just by listening and leaving the review. So I appreciate it. Um, That's what I got. So without further ado, let's jump into it. The Addams Archive All right. So the very first topic that we're going to get into today is obviously going to be the breaking news that the US has conducted multiple airstrikes against Iranian funded militant organizations, or at least that's what they're saying so far. So let's go ahead and watch this clip or read a couple articles, and then we'll discuss the implications of this because to me, what this means is. Okay. Is the United States is now at war. This means that the U. S. is now engaging in military conflict just, like, almost a year later. Like, we could, I wonder if we had a ticker up on a wall in, in, you know, the White House that said, days since military conflict and death. I wonder how many days like, you know, like one of those tickers from, you know, days, days since an accident in a, uh, old industry warehouse, like days since killing innocent civilians for the United States. I wonder how long, what that number would get up to, because it doesn't Didn't even reach a year since we pulled out of Afghanistan. That we are now finding ourselves back in a sand hellhole, conducting military airstrikes. Seemingly, I don't know. Let's watch this video, then we'll jump into it together. And here we... Well, Jennifer, this sounds like huge news. Sean, we can report based on senior military sources that U. S. warplanes have carried out airstrikes tonight inside Syria against Iranian proxy forces. We don't know the number of strikes. We were told earlier today to expect that perhaps F 15s and F 16s would be involved in the airstrikes. But we don't have confirmation yet how, about how many warplanes, but those strikes have been carried out. I'm told, uh, it is in response to the more than dozen strikes against U. S. bases. Uh, the message is a clear message designed, uh, to Iran and its proxy forces to stop carrying out these, uh, drone and rocket attacks against U. S. Um, but I'm told that the planes have safely left the area and that the airstrikes, uh, are complete at this time. Um, they were, uh, targeting multiple locations inside Syria and Iran, Iranian proxy forces, Sean. So, that right there should terrify you. The United States of America is now at, they have entered the chat, they have now conducted military airstrikes that is going to cause internal, like some of the biggest concerns that people have had is that, does, do these terrorist organizations have sleeper cells within the United States that they're going to enact acts of terrorism on our soil here because the border's just been. Purposefully and literally wide open for three years now, it's, it's unbelievable. So right as, as all of this is breaking out in Palestine, right, as the war drums were being beat by all of the large conservative entities, the, the Ben Shapiro's, the, you know, the, the Dennis Prager's, the, you know, all of the, the, the two largest entities in the conservative side of things have been calling for war. And now. We're getting it. Is this what you wanted? To see your sons and daughters go to war? 900. US military soldiers have been deployed overseas now, in case something happens. Well, guess what? Something's going to happen now. When we conduct airstrikes, when we are killing others, there's going to be retaliations. Now, I understand that I get that there was a drone strike that was conducted that injured 24 military, 24 of our US soldiers. So I get that I didn't see that there was any casualties. I maybe I'm wrong there. And maybe I stand corrected, but but I did not see any casualties, everything that I saw said injuries. So there's 24 injuries. Now does that And listen, I'm not somebody who's not against defending yourself, whether that's in a fist fight on the street because somebody talks shit and pushes you or throws a punch or whatever. Like I get it. A hundred percent. We have every right to defend ourselves. Is defending ourselves conducting F15 airstrikes on some random potential terrorist group that I don't know, like, so the logistics of this, I haven't dove super deep into, let's go ahead and let's read some of these articles because maybe we can educate ourselves about this as we go along. But this is terrifying to me, guys, I absolutely don't want to see as I've said, and what we've seen this whole time is it's been like the the war drum beating conservatives calling for for in the heightened escalations, we're not even going to war. At this very moment, we very well will be very shortly, but we're not going to war at this very moment with Hamas. We're going to war with some random group, but but guess what allowed this to happen. The war drums were being beaten by all the large conservative influencers, which which is so weird to me, right and that that William will get to this in a minute. And I guess it makes sense a little bit, you know, I've always said, you know, I'm not traditional conservative individual, I just find myself Aligning with conservatives at this very moment, but most of my ideologies and belief systems fall much closer to Uh libertarian I would say is like, you know less government less government intervention less taxes if any um Less military conflicts, you know, i'm pretty anti war at this point in my life I just haven't seen a single war historically that has caused something positive And most of or even had an effect whatsoever like In the last, I don't know, 80 years since, since world war two, have we seen an engagement that had a positive outcome? I don't believe so. And all I've seen is, is, is pointless bloodshed for the improved. stock prices of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. That's what I see. I don't see any purpose for war at this point. And that's not to say that there ever hasn't been. That's not to say that there won't ever will be. But to me, it's just every conflict we've been in has been a losing war. Vietnam. Uh, you want to go into the war in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, what, what, what did we accomplish? What happened? What, you know, the Gulf War, where was there any positive outcome from these, these engagements that we're getting into? And now we're actively seeking them. Right, saying that there's okay, there's a drone strike against a military base, um, that had a few people get hurt. And again, let's let's dive into that because maybe I stand corrected. But that was the last thing that I read. There's 24 individuals. So let's just read this and we'll get into it. US strikes Iran linked strike sites in Syria in retaliation for attacks on US troops. In response to ongoing attacks by Iranian backed militia groups, US military forces conducted self defense. I like how they frame it. immediately. They conducted self defense strikes. Like, was somebody actively about to shoot at us? Like, it's not self defense strikes if they send a drone, a few people get a little hurt, and then all of a sudden you send F 15s two days later. Like, that doesn't seem like self defense strikes to me. It's like some, some guy, you know. throws a smacks you in the face. So two days later, you go kick his door in and beat the shit out of him in his living room. Like it's not exactly a self defense strike. But I digress. The United States prioritizes the safety of its personnel and will not tolerate such attacks, taking necessary measures to protect its people. The strikes were narrowly tailored. Wow, the strikes were narrowly tailored to protect and defend us personnel in Iraq and Syria and do not indicate a shift in approach to the Israel Hamas conflict. No, no, no, no, we know we got you guys all hyped up about this war over here. We're not doing we're not doing that right now. We're not going to fight those guys. But we're going to punch this guy in the face over here in the meantime, and maybe, maybe when we're done with that, or simultaneously, while we're also funding Ukraine and funding Israel and funding all of these other organizations while they're going to war Taiwan, simultaneously, like, let's just go fight three different fronts at the same time. And anyways, so this comes from ground news ground news says that this is primarily only being reported. from left leaning organizations. At this point, it says 83 percent of the sources are leaning left. I really like ground news, by the way, there was one news media that I would pay for right now, it would be ground. It's ground. news. If you go to their website, they basically give you a full breakdown of the is how many new sources have come out? Are they left leaning? Are they right leaning? Are they center? What is the bias distribution? What are the blind spots from the right? Thank you. Reporting media compared to the left media. Like if there's a hundred percent reporting by the right and zero percent reporting by the left, it's pretty much a media blackout. So it will highlight those things for you. Pretty, pretty cool stuff. Probably the most. Uh, Non biased news source that I've seen and the most well done. It's very well put together website, too. So good on them So let's jump into one of these do we want to do Associated Press CBS Las Vegas Sun? Probably the Department of Defense. Let's go there and then Atlas News is another one So I'll just go ahead and read their highlight here, but it does say from Atlas News That the United States aircraft have carried out airstrikes against two facilities in eastern Syria used by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and affiliated groups in response to over 15 drone and rocket attacks against American forces in the region. In a statement, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin stated that the president has no higher priority than the safety of the U. S. personnel, and he directed today's actions to make clear the United States will not tolerate such attacks and will defend itself, its personnel, and its interests. Huh. They'll read some of their, um, it says much like Zionists and they're just looking through some of the comments here. Yeah. Probably nothing of value there. Um, but let's go ahead and read the actual statement by the secretary of defense directly from the U S department of defense website title being secretary of defense, Lloyd J. Austin, the third statement on U S military strikes in Eastern Syria. And here you go, says today at President Biden's direction, U. S. military forces conducted self defense strikes on two facilities in eastern Syria used by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. and affiliated groups. These precision self defense, I want you to like, I want to highlight where the propaganda gets just sprinkled in here with these adjectives. The precision self defense strikes are a response to a series of ongoing and mostly unsuccessful attacks against us personnel in Iraq and Syria by Iranian backed militia groups. Again, Iranian backed Militia groups that began on October 17th. As a result of these attacks, one us citizen contractor died from a cardiac incident while sheltering in place. What the one guy who died was a contractor who died from myocarditis. Um, it says 21 us personnel suffered from minor injuries. But they've all since returned to duty. So within a day or two, they're all back. Um, the president has no, so one guy died of a vaccine shot. Uh, because you know, they're all required to get it when in the military. And again, that's hearsay. I don't know if that's true. Um, but while sheltering in place and then 21 other people suffered from minor injuries. So, you know, their ears hurt or something. The president has no higher priority than the safety of us personnel. And he directed today's action to make clear that the United States will not tolerate such attacks and will defend itself as personnel and its interests. The United States does not see conflict and has no intention nor desire to engage in further hostilities, but these Iranian backed attacks against us forces are unacceptable and must. Stop. Iran wants to hide its hand and deny its role in these attacks against our forces. We will not let them. Hmm. If attacks by Iran's proxies against US forces continue, we will not hesitate to take further necessary measures to protect our people. These narrowly tailored, narrowly tailored strikes and self defense were intended solely to protect and defend U. S. personnel in Iraq and Syria. They are separate and distinct from the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas and do not constitute a shift in our approach to the Israel Hamas conflict. We continue to urge all state and non state entities not to take action that would escalate into a broader regional conflict. Conflict. So wait, wait, wait, you guys don't do anything back to us. We're just going to do this thing. And I like how they say, we will not, it said these Iranian back to tax against us forces are unacceptable and must. Are unacceptable and must stop. Iran wants to hide its hand and deny its role in these attacks against our forces, but we will not let them deny their role?  Okay, so there's the Secretary of Defense's claim as to why we are now entering a military conflict, right? Oh, don't don't do anything back to us, they said, right? We really hope nobody feels the need to, you know, what did they say? We continue to urge all state and non state entities not to take action that would escalate into a broader regional conflict. That's what they just said. Oh, you mean like bombing people? as a self defense mechanism when nobody was hurt besides one guy who had a heart attack, probably because you forced him to get a COVID vaccine. Like what we're what are we doing here, guys, besides escalating military conflict, but you get to sit here and urge all state and non state entities not to take action that would escalate into a broader regional conflict. Oh, so you want to engage in military conflict and have no Response back right now. To be clear, Iran is not completely uninvolved in this Israel, Hamas, Palestine conflict, right? They are not. Not a player in the game. They're, they're very much so the opposition when we're talking about there's two sides to this, right? We're talking about Palestine, Iran, uh, China, like all of these, these brick players, all are there. Siding on the opposite end of this, right? So that's why we're going to see very likely in the very near future, China move into Taiwan, just as Russia's moving into Ukraine, just as, uh, Israel's going to be moving into Gaza and into Palestine and, and so don't get it twisted, this is a escalation of military force that. Absolutely has to do with the Israel Hamas conflict. They're going to try and frame it as, as this completely different entity, but really they're not, yeah, they're not bombing Hamas. They're making a statement to Iran. So when they're sitting here going, Oh, well don't, don't respond back to it. It's like, yeah. Okay, well, you just bombed an entire city or what? I guess we'll find out these two locations that they're talking about here. So not an entire city. But the US is now at war, they will they have now entered the conflict, we are now in a state where we should absolutely expect retaliation. You know what other wars started with 900 900 soldiers being deployed? Just 900 guys. We're not, we're not, we're not starting anything. We're just sending 900 people over there. You know what other wars started with that? Vietnam. Vietnam. Same number, same number of people, right? And so It's this is terrifying. This is absolutely giving merit to the idea that this will further escalate right as we see China moving into Taiwan with escalating military tensions there as we had a Chinese fighter jet just fly within 10 feet of a US bomber yesterday or today that they released footage of. So yeah, we are. Absolutely moving towards a large scale, extremely horrifying war. And I guess we should have seen this coming since Russia and Ukraine. And some of us even talked about that. I had several podcasts labeled World War Three, right? And that's not hyperbole. That's not exaggeration. This has been escalating. And escalating and escalating. And as we're going to see China moving to Taiwan at the perfect time because when you have US military aid Your tax dollars being spread between Russia and Ukraine, between Israel and Hamas. Like, come on guys. Like, why do we have to fund Israel? They're, they're billions of trillions of dollars worth more money than Hamas is. And, and how is our tax dollars going to help anything besides escalate tensions? So, again, don't get it twisted. They're trying to frame this as if it has absolutely nothing to do with Israel and Hamas. Yeah, it doesn't have to do with Israel and Hamas. It has to do with who is backing Palestine, which is Iran. Right? You go to the Iranian, uh, Twitter, and you'll see that the, the, they're condemning completely the actions by Israel. Um, in a lot of this. So is Iran absolutely in the United States absolutely escalating tensions together is horrifying. It's not just some one off thing. We're very likely going to see retaliation from this. All right. Don't know what to do with that information. But that's what's happening. All right. Another thing that's happened recently is that there has been a Mass shooting. If you didn't hear about this, I'm sure you did in Maine, where a individual essentially, uh, let's, let's go ahead and read this article that comes from, uh, Atlas news, which says authorities, clear scene in Bowdoin, Maine. So, uh, basically all of these officers were surrounding this man's house. 24 hours after this happened, um, it was like 51 people were, uh, injured. Um, I believe the last count that I saw was like 22 people were dead. Um, but let's see if we can get the official numbers on that. Uh, but. They were surrounding his house. They were, they were completely, uh, they were sitting there trying to negotiate with him to move him out of his house and he was not even there. There was whispers that this guy took his own life and that didn't happen at this very moment. October 26th. He is still at large. He is still out there. Now it says authorities have cleared the scene at Meadow Road in Bowdoin, B O W D O I N, Maine, following the search of several properties in the area, meaning that Lewiston mass shootings suspect Robert Card remains at large. Early this morning, local and federal authorities surrounded a run down home along the road, calling for Card to come out, leading many to believe that he had been located. This is law enforcement vehicles. This is a tweet. This is law enforcement vehicles leaving the scene here on Meadow Road. According to Aaron Katursky, police found nothing inside the residence they searched as of right now. Robert Card is still on the run. Main State Police later later tweeted that law enforcement officials are currently on Meadow Road in Bowdoin to execute several search warrants. The announcement being heard over a loudspeaker are standard search warrant announcements when executing a warrant to ensure the safety of all involved. The statement did include, however, that it is unknown whether Robert Card is in any of the homes law enforcement will search. Law enforcement officials are simply doing their due diligence by tracking down every lead in an effort to locate and apprehend the card. So this was like, a big smoke and mirror show. Trying to show that they're like, potentially have an idea of where this man was. But they forgot that maybe... Within 24 hours, you should probably have been in this house within an hour, two hours. I don't know. It seems like, you know, I could have gotten in my car and drove 15 hours or however long it takes to get to Maine. Uh, to, to, to see if he was there quicker than the police. That seems pretty wild to me. So there starts to come some conversations around this, right? One thing that we see come up constantly, every single time there's a mass shooter, we find out that there's mental health issues, right? Which. To be fair, of course, there's mental health issues in order for you to pick up a weapon and mercilessly slaughter civilians, you have to have something that's going on with inside of you. That's not a normal human behavior. That's not normally within the capacity of humanity to be able to conduct such a horrific act. Right. Now, what makes this worse is this man was a firearms instructor and he had 20 years of military service. I believe in the reserves, so maybe take that with a grain of salt, but the fact that he was a firearms instructor, uh, obviously gives more terrifying merit to, you know, his ability to conduct something as atrocious as this act. Uh, so let's go ahead and listen a little bit to this. This comes from the, Always loved info wars Let's go ahead and see what they have to say because they start to tie it in a little bit to The MK ultra stuff which I'm quite surprised Alex Jones to be honest is treading in any sort of direction on a mass shooting towards questioning literally anything because of his 1 billion dollar lawsuit that A judge just said he cannot declare bankruptcy to get out of like, there's two things that you can't get out of declaring bankruptcy with is student loans and making a statement about a mass shooting, having the potential to be a conspiracy. Ooh, crazy. Here it is. Subject. We don't know that. And you know why? Because the C here we go. I'll start from the beginning. Is this MK ultra? Was he a mind control subject? We don't know that. And you know why? Because the CIA under that program, MK ultra MK, Naomi and others admittedly trained people to be assassins and mass shooters, and we know Sirhan Sirhan was drugged up and was just a decoy shooter that's come out and I'm not saying this was MK ultra, I'm not saying that. I'm saying, because there's a history of that, and Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook shooter, was involved with the CIA, so was his family. That's in mainstream news, look it up. Uh, the Unabomber, Theodore Kaczynski, was in the MKUltra program. Source, Washington Post, LA Times. The stories are so old, you just have to go to the search engine and type in Unabombers CIA and then click images and you'll see LA Times, Washington Post. You can even see newscasts from the 90s about it as well. And it goes on and on and on and on. Uh, the shooter at the Aurora movie theater, the Batman shooters. Dad ran the government brain interface program and he was a volunteer in a mind control experiment. I'm not saying that's what happened there. I'm just saying it's weird. This continues to go on. So We need to investigate, we need to look into here, uh, exactly who this individual is, Robert Card of Maine. Yeah, for sure. But I want to get into the tragic events that we have just seen unfold, uh, in Maine. There's a lot of different angles to this and a lot of different takeaways. You have an individual and they're saying they think it's him, even mainstream news is calling him the shooter, but I think we can still say that's alleged. That's how our system works. Maine massacre gunman Robert Card, that's the Daily Mail, was committed to a mental hospital after hearing voices. Firearms instructor, military firearms instructor, spent two weeks in a mental health facility this summer before killing at least 22 people. Now they're saying the number's down to 18. I hope that's correct. More than 60 wounded. More than 60 wounded, and then they talk about the entire state of Maine being on lockdown because he is at large, but now they think he went across the border to Massachusetts. So the answer is armed citizens, not disarmed citizens, and even though mass shootings are statistically up because they didn't really happen until the 1980s, it's still a very rare form of dying, but nonetheless, terrible if you're wounded or killed. So, again. Is this MKUltra? Was he a mind control subject? We don't know that, and you know why? Because the CIA under that program, MKUltra, MKNaomi, and others, admittedly trained people to be assassins and mass shooters. And we know Sirhan Sirhan was drugged up. And we're just a decoy shooter that's come out and I'm all right. So we listened to some of that already All right. So yeah, pretty pretty crazy. Um And not that crazy allegations because you understand everything that he's saying is factual right those shooters that he's talking about Some of that I didn't know but you know, you go back to the mk ultra stuff You know, even charles manson was a part of the mk ultra um brainwashing mind control experiments that were happening, uh, dosing him with LSD. There's, there's a whole, uh, pretty, really well done, um, book called chaos. Uh, that goes into that, um, about the history of Charles Manson and the CIA and MKUltra. So this isn't new right the idea that this man could have been now what we know we don't know that right He says now we can't say that that's true, which is true You can't say that but what you can say is that this man had mental health issues and that he was obviously being given some sort of antipsychotics or some sort of SSRIs or some some sort of psychiatric treatments to assist with his mental health, right? We don't have a gun problem. We have a mental health problem. We have a, a, a pharmaceutical industrial complex problem that that looks at everyday citizens dealing with everyday types of issues and wants to shove down their throat. These pharmaceutical drugs where everything's a side effect, whether it's an intentional or hopeful side effect or an unintentional off label side effect, right? Every single time that you look at a pharmaceutical medication, literally the way that that works is they throw shit at the wall and see what it does. They come up with all these new compounds. And then they look for whether the reactions if I put these things together and I put it into a human body, what's it going to do, what are the effects going to be? And maybe it has multiple effects. And all of them are side effects. Some are hope that they want them to some are positive side effects, like potentially, I don't know, lowering your risk for suicide, but almost it. In every case, it higher, it heightens your risk for suicide, right? You go watch any pharmaceutical drug advertisement right now. It's like, ask your doctor about Prilosec, which will help you lower your instances of, of GERD, right? Of, of having acid reflux. But also, as it starts to talk really, really fast about all the things that it could help you do and that it's going to do to you and you're going to die and maybe it's going to make you bleed internally and turn your toes inside out and make you start seeing from your nose and hearing from your ears. It's like, it's like all of these side effects that come with it are, it's all side effects. There's no, it's just all they did was look at it and go, Oh, this is a side effect that can make us money. And this is one that we have to mitigate by putting all these legal terms around. Right. So. When you have a man like this that is on probably very serious medications going out from an inpatient facility for mental health issues. There's obviously psychiatric treatment, right? And I believe Candace Owens posted something about this. Um, that was pretty well said, and I'll see if I can pull this up here. Um, which is that another mass shooting that big pharma is going to get away with, right? This isn't Daniel defense's problem, right? This isn't glocks problem. This is a problem with Big Pharma. This is a problem with the pharmaceutical medical and industrial complex. This is a problem with the way that we treat mental illness and that we've set up society, right? She said never a discussion about the anti psychotic medications that these shooters all have in common. So we'll do the usual political song and dance while the American drug cartel billionaires count their billions, right? How many times, right? It's it's whether it was a knife. Or a car, right? Which there's all been mass murders with any type of imaginable weapon that you could you can think of. However, what causes somebody to do those things is not to get to the point where you pull that trigger has absolutely nothing to do with the legality around the weapon type that you use, right? They're going to do what's what's important. What's the, the greatest possibility for the worst outcome for humanity, right? No matter what that is, whether it's running people over with a car, you're going to ban cars. No, whether it's stabbing people like we have mass stabbings over in the UK, right? But, but, you know, what's in common, you know, if you want to look at, I guarantee you where there's a causation. If you want to pull up a chart and look at since the amount of times that we've been allowed to advertise pharmaceutical products, I guarantee you the uptick in mass shootings. You want to know why? There's not the same amount of problems with mass shootings in the UK doesn't have to do with the gun laws or mass murders. It has to do with The laws around pharmaceutical companies, the laws around anti psychotics being peddled to children, the laws about, you know, all of the indoctrinations that we're seeing trying to, to ruin the, the family unit. So yeah, we don't have a gun problem. We have a big pharma problem. We have a medical industrial complex problem. We have a pharmaceuticals problem and that should absolutely be addressed. Right, but what Kamala Harris wants to do is to go the Australia route and get rid of every single access that you have to weapons, as she states here in a recent speech. And here's that. Gun violence has terrorized and traumatized so many of our communities in this country. And let us be clear, it does not have to be this way, as our friends in Australia have demonstrated. And what does she mean by that? What she means by that is the hundreds of thousands of weapons that were mandatorily confiscated in Australia, right? We go and we look at the articles based on this that discuss this. Um, let's see if we can find that here. I had one up about that. Let's see if we can find it. Potentially not, but you get the idea here is like. The problem is not access to weapons because you're always going to have weapon, you're always going to have access to pointy objects. The, guess what? The, the, the people that were conducting mass raids and killings back in, in, you know, the 1700s when we were far more, uh, barbaric than we are today. Did it have gunpowder? They didn't have semi automatic weapons. You know what they had, they had knives and tomahawks and fucking bows and arrows. And they killed far more people atrociously than what we're seeing today. The idea that by suddenly, Making guns illegal and confiscating them door to door, like Australia, right, which was by far the most talent totalitarian state during COVID of any of them that we saw, maybe next to China, which is right there with them on gun bans. Yeah, no, thanks, Kamala. You're absolutely not going to do that. So this comes from Colin rug, which has Kamala Harris references, Australia as a country of the United States should model themselves after when it comes to gun control. Starting in 1996, Australia collected about 650, 000 privately owned guns and a mandatory buyback. They also established a gun registry and. Banned pump action shotguns and semi automatic rifles. Australians can only buy a gun if the government deems it to be a genuine reason, which predominantly means for sport or hunting. The Biden regime is saying the quiet part out loud. Despicable. Now somebody else commented on that that says, We learned from other countries what not to do. The sheer number of reference points available against seizing firearms is staggering. There's about one plausible outcome for that. It's called tyranny. Yeah. Now, it's funny. Yeah, then you go and look at that. Guess who was also just indicted on three different gun charges. Hunter Biden, right? The same people that that are, you know, looking at everyday citizens trying to say that you shouldn't have a weapon are also the same ones who got Hunter Biden out of his gun charges. So let's take that with a grain of salt. Anyways, moving on. Let's hope they find that guy soon. He's a piece of trash. My heart goes out to all of the families that were, are affected by this. That's terrible. 21 people, 18 people, whatever it is. Horrible. Um, and the answer is obviously not taking people's guns away. The answer is figuring out why so many people are, are, are engaging in this. Now obviously not as many people as they would lead you to believe because they want to take those guns away from you. But anyways, here we go. There was a post that came out from the White House. Now, uh, this comes from the, let me, let me preempt this. So, so kind of what, what my thought is here is let's, let's get an update on Israel and Hamas, but let's not do it in the way where I'm telling you exactly what you can go find somewhere else. So what I want to discuss here today is. The way that we're seeing the reactions from the United States, from large conservative influencers through, uh, social media and stuff. So, so let's look at this. This is the White House saying that, you know, to me, the idea that, you know, we have all these conservatives calling for war on behalf of Israel, calling for, for the death of civilians. And there's only, there's literally only one side in the Israel Hamas or Israel versus Palestine debate. On the, in the United States side of things, there's only one side that's calling for the death of civilians and saying it's acceptable, right? Like my position is anti war. My position is anti terrorist in both of, in these cases, there's civilians being killed on both sides. There's mass killings. Palestine came out and said that there's been 7, 200 people that have died as a result of Israel's attacks. Now, the White House is saying that they don't believe that number because, oh, oh, oh, we just, we don't believe anything that comes out from, from the mouth of people that disagrees with our narrative. But again, as I'm saying, there's only one side in the United States, like, and, and, you know, there are very small groups of people and there's some, some horrific videos coming out from universities where they're saying like, Israel, Palestine. Something something Jewish genocide like yeah, horrible. That's terrible. Don't say that. And obviously don't do that. That's atrocious. But what I'm saying is on the mainstream narratives here, when we come to talking and discussing about the people with larger platforms who are saying we're pro Israel, we're pro this, like, you'll listen to this clip by Dennis Prager, where he essentially says that the death of civilians that are caused by Israel is the fault of Palestine. Not the fault of Israel for, I dunno, bombing innocent civilians and children. No, no, no, no. It's the fault of the Palestinians and Hamas. Not our fault for bombing you. It's their fault for starting shit with us, so we had to bomb your children. Like, what kind of response is that? Right? Like, oh, we're justified in doing this because of what you did to us. We get to do whatever we want. No, that's the act of a terrorist. Right? Like, and, and here's literally the White House saying that there's going to be civilian bloodshed and the United States government is okay with that. Even if it's children. Here we go. Watch this shit. Cause this should infuriate you. This is war. It is combat. It is bloody. It is ugly. And it's going to be messy. And innocent civilians are going to be hurt going forward. I wish I could tell you something different. I wish that that wasn't going to happen. Uh, but it is, it is going to happen. And, uh, that doesn't make it right. It doesn't make it, uh, dismissible. It doesn't mean that we aren't going to still express concerns about that and, and do everything we can to help the Israelis do everything they can to minimize it. But, uh, but that's, that's unfortunately the nature of conflict. This is war. It is combat. So essentially what the United States government just said is they are perfectly okay with Israel Conducting attacks on civilians and having collateral damage and you know, we'll look into it a little bit But we don't we know war is messy and they're gonna kill civilians and we're perfectly fine with that and you should be too You know what killing innocent civilians is It's an act of terrorism. So the United States government just condones terrorism when it's on their side of things, right? And again, I don't agree with Hamas conducting act of terrorism either. Terrorism either. They're all horrible and everything that both sides is doing is bad. Right, but only one side it claims to be having the moral high ground here of being a large agreed upon Nation state that is getting funding from our tax dollars So yeah, I wouldn't choose to send money to Hamas either But the United States government literally just looked you in the eye and said that it's okay if Israel kills Civilians cuz guess what? That's war Hmm. Is it? Because to me that sounds like acts of terrorism. And they're not the only one, right? The government is not the only one doing this. You're seeing large conservative influencers, Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager's out there, saying that, yeah, it's okay. It's okay and it's definitely not the fault of Israel if there is deaths to children. Right in here. Let's watch this clip here and see just exactly what Dennis Prager says because it's just as wild as that statement. Already, because it means confronting evil and people don't want it. Let me start it from the beginning for you here in just a second because yeah, this is absolutely just as crazy. You'll see the same fucking four clips about the conflict. It's like there's the guy getting pulled out the car. There's the girl getting pulled away. There's like two or three. Two or three clips maybe but here we go. Let's let's here it is every Japanese who died in the nuclear bombs Every single one their blood was on the hands of the japanese regime Including the emperor had they not attacked the pearl harbor had they not attacked korea and china? and the philippines And other countries there would never have been one bomb dropped On Japan or on Germany, the West didn't have to be told that German children are as precious as American or British children. German children who died, died because of Hitler and the Nazis, not because of the West. Moral clarity is everything, but people don't want to have moral clarity because it means confronting evil and people don't want to do that. It's too painful or scary. Same here in the Middle East. Now, every, every Palestinian child killed, the blood is on the hands of Hamas and Hezbollah had they not done what they did, there would never be a war. Did you hear that shit? That's so crazy. That's such a wild statement to say that. The, the, the blood of those children in Japan that were incinerated by atomic bombs by the United States is the fault of the Japanese. Like imagine you come get in a fistfight with me and I'll just keep using this because I think it's good. You got to realize, you know, we're at war, right? Whatever. We're, we're in a fight. If I get in a fight with Gaia in a Gaia school. And he punches me in the face, and I get into a fistfight with him, and then all of a sudden, the next day, I go and kill his family. I could point to him and go, Oh, well, you shouldn't start shit. It's like, sure, but maybe don't go kill somebody's family or, or obliterate entire cities with atomic bombs that nobody has ever used sense because of the mass destruction where there's shadows incinerated onto the ground where people used to stand. And you have him sitting here saying, well, don't start shit. Don't won't won't don't start nothing won't be nothing. Like, okay, but also when you're bound by the Geneva Convention and you follow the, the, the Rules of engagement that allow you to become a, a agreed upon nation state by all the other countries, right? Hamas is not in that group. They are actively considered a terrorist group. So yeah, they're not bound by the Geneva Convention. They're not bound by the rules of engagement. There, there, there, there's no rules that they have to abide by because there's no large judicial system. That they have to adhere to the laws of, but Israel does have to do that. And guess what? It was wrong of the United States to drop a bomb because there's also questions around Pearl Harbor. And if we let that happen, right, there was all, there's tons of skepticism about if, whether or not the United States had Intel on Pearl Harbor happening or whether it should have happened to begin with, or who like. And why and when and like, there's a lot of questions around Pearl Harbor. So then to say, well, don't start shit won't be shit. We're going to drop a fucking nuke on you if you kill some of our military personnel. It's like, yes, absolutely kill American military personnel. But if you kill 500 people, does that warrant a response of killing 500, 000 people simultaneously? And majority, 90%, 95%, 100 percent and obviously Pearl Harbor was enacted on a military base. Pearl Harbor was a military base. Hiroshima, Nagasaki were not military cities. You don't just get to go bomb and level entire civilizations because somebody hit your military base. You go hit back on their military bases, right? That's not moral clarity. That's, that's. Like. Moral, uh, confuscation of, of, of, I don't even know what to call it. It's just gross. That's just a such a gross statement. And then you have the United States government parroting that idea. Like, yeah, it's going to be bloody and Israel is going to kill a ton of civilians and children, but yeah, that's war. Like, no, not supposed to be right. And then, and then you have. Them basically trying to propagandize this war from our front and again, beat the war drum to allow us to get in this engagement, which. Whether you want them to or not, we're going to write. You had Joe Biden essentially give a 15 minute Raytheon commercial, right? Who knew that they could last that long? Trying to convince you and I that this is the right thing to do to go to war just two to three days before they get drone striked where nobody gets hurt. And. Like, how easy would that be? Like, you want to talk about false flags. How easy would it be for them to sit a hundred fucking yards away with some remote control somewhere and explode something not even close to civilian or to people who are actually going to die on the military base and then all of a sudden go conduct airstrikes as a response? Like, that's the literally the easiest false flag you've ever heard of in your life. So like... Why should we now believe that we should go drop bombs if not a single family can point to one of their family members dying as a result of these drone strikes? Excuse me. But now we're immediately justified in entering this engagement. in the Middle East. Terrifying. Right? Terrifying. And you saw Ben Shapiro puppeting the same exact narrative that like, oh, it's okay to kill innocent civilians as long as they're not the people that I support. Right? You're a terrorist organization. If you do that to my people or people that are on my side, but if we do that to you back, that's called moral clarity. Like No, it's not. Alright, let's see if we can move on here. Um, there is, oh, and by the way, let's go back to that statement of like, and we're not going to let them get away with trying to deny this. It's like, oh, so you're just not even going to the negotiations come to the table and saying, hey, did you bomb us? And they go, no, we absolutely did not do that. Oh, okay. Well, we're going to bomb your people anyways. Like, we're absolutely not going to let them get away with denying it. Like. Okay, show us your evidence. Like, why do we believe that that was from these people? How do we know? Right? How do we know any of this? Like if there's 21 people who had minor scuffs, and one guy who died from his COVID vaccine, like why should we as the Americans be immediately calling for a military engagement? It just doesn't add up to me. Especially when you see this level of propaganda, right? Like To me, it's like if everybody in the news media, everybody that's a celebrity, everybody that's, that's even Joe Biden or the military industrial complex, all of them are all all singing the same tune as you. calling for support to Israel, maybe you should start questioning your position. If you're finding yourself on the side of the military industrial complex, Joe Biden and CNN, I'm just saying, maybe look into it a little bit further right now. I'm not the end all be all narrative on this. My point is that. Everybody's wrong. There's no reason that we should be going into this military conflict. There's no reason we should be funding Israel. There's no reason we should be funding Ukraine. There's no reason that we should be finding ourselves in these proxy wars, which is eventually going to lead to us because it's not a proxy war eventually, right? That's what you're going to find. Because when, when Iran funds a military organization that bombs, or does a drone strike against the United States, all the sudden it's it's calls for war against Iran. But when we fund Ukraine, and Ukraine goes and bombs and kills Russia, it has absolutely nothing to do with the United States. It's like you can't How do you justify that position? And I, there's like really interesting clarity of statement. They're talking about clarity, like you, as the United States, you cannot tell me that there is any difference between Iran funding a military militia that ends up drone striking the United States. That's not any different than the United States funding Ukraine to go bomb Russia. Right? Same thing, same exact situation, yet you hold the moral high ground and call for the bloodshed of innocent civilians against, against Palestine, or you immediately get to bomb somebody back as a result, like, and then wag your finger at Iran. Saying you better not do anything back to us or we'll absolutely retaliate like it's the hypocrisy is just astounding All right, guys. Thank you so much for listening. I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart. Go ahead and hit that subscribe button. Leave a five star review. I appreciate you. I love you, have a great day, and I'll see you soon. Adam's Archive.

Statistically, 70% of Autistic individuals identify as non-heterosexual, and genderqueer people are 3 to 6 times more likely to be diagnosed as Autistic than cisgender adults. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Rebecca Minor, MSW, LICSW, a gender expansive therapist and advocate in the neuroqueer space, about genderqueer identity and neuroqueer identity—what they are, how they intersect, and how they are perceived versus present in society, relationships, and the mental health community. Top 3 reasons to listen to the entire episode: Understand what is genderqueer identity and neuroqueer identity, as well as delve into the misconceptions surrounding them. See how neurodivergence and queerness overlap for both Autism and ADHD, including what studies have been done around this. Understand the importance of self-disclosure in therapy, particularly for marginalized communities with intersectional identities, and how it can build connection and community, as well as offer emotional relief for clients. There is still a lot to learn and unpack about queerness and neurodivergence, but research suggests a strong connection between neurodivergence and gender identity. We hope to shed light, give valuable insights, and broaden your understanding of these diverse identities. More about Rebecca: Rebecca Minor, MSW, LICSW is a neuroqueer femme, clinician, consultant, and educator specializing in the intersection of trauma, gender, and sexuality. As a Gender Specialist, Rebecca partners with trans and gender nonconforming youth through their journey of becoming, and is a guide to their parents in affirming it. Rebecca is part-time faculty at Boston University School of Social work and always works through a lens that is neurodiversity-affirming, trauma-informed, and resilience-oriented. In addition to her clinical work, Rebecca has provided cultural humility training and consultation to organizations, schools, and businesses for the past decade. You can follow her on Instagram, hire her for parent coaching, or check out her blog, and free guides and course for parents and caregivers! Rebecca's Website: www.genderspecialist.com  Work with Rebecca: https://www.genderspecialist.com/coaching   Rebecca's Instagram: http://instagram.com/gender.specialist   Rebecca's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RebeccaMinorLICSW  Resources Neurodivergent Insights Masterclass Series: Exploring Neuroqueer Identities by Dr. Megan Anna Neff and Rebecca Minor: https://learn.neurodivergentinsights.com/exploring-neuroqueer-identities/ Neurodivergent Insights Infographic: https://neurodivergentinsights.com/autism-infographics/trans-autism   Transcript MEGAN NEFF: So, over the last two weeks we have been… PATRICK CASALE: Did you forget your settings [INDISCERNIBLE 00:00:12] because- MEGAN NEFF: [CROSSTALK 00:00:13] no, it takes me a second, Patrick. I don't have my process in this video. We should keep that in. Okay, so, over the last few weeks, we've been exploring autistic identity and neurodivergent identity. And I can't think of a better guest to have on today than Rebecca Minor, who is neuro queer and does a lot in the neuro queer space. And so, we're going to dive a little bit deeper into talking about the intersection of queerness and neurodivergence, broadening it to autistic and ADHD identities. Okay, Rebecca, I'm going to try to introduce you. I know I'm not going to do it justice. But here we go. So, we met on Instagram, which is a weird thing to say. I don't meet people on Instagram anymore. We met before- REBECCA MINOR: No. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, I'm too, [CROSSTALK 00:01:04] and I get so overwhelmed. So, I'm so glad I met you like when I had a small following and when I actually spent time in the app because I've loved… How did we meet? I don't even know how we met. But I love that we did. And we've developed what I would say is a really wonderful friendship. And we've presented together on your neuro queerness. You are a gender-expansive therapist, but if I'm tracking right, you're kind of doing less clinical work, more speaking, more advocacy, lots of trainings. So, gender expansiveness in teens, this is your jam. Do I have that right? REBECCA MINOR: You do, yeah, yeah. I'm still seeing too many clients for how much I'm doing the other things. But yes, I am. MEGAN NEFF: Right? I am not surprised by that. REBECCA MINOR: So, welcome. MEGAN NEFF: What would you like to add about, like just giving our listeners some context for who you are. REBECCA MINOR: So, I am a social worker by training. Some people care about that. I have been in private practice for about five years with a variety of settings, different experiences prior to that. And I work primarily with queer and trans youth and their journey of becoming. And most recently, I'm spending a bulk of my time working with parents and caregivers to really support them in being able to better support young people. MEGAN NEFF: I love that. I've been so encouraged by how many parents are really showing up and they're doing their work to show up for their kids. And I love that you're coming alongside parents in that journey because it's a lot to unlearn, and then relearn, and just to address like, the fear that comes with parenting a queer kid. REBECCA MINOR: You nailed that, yeah. And that's so often what it is, right? It's just like, because of a lack of information there's a lot of fear, and concern, and feeling like they should have all the answers. And so, then, there's a shutdown, right? And it's like not because they don't care, not because they don't want to support their kid, but they're stuck. And so, that shift can happen really quickly, which is also like an incredibly meaningful piece of the work that feels so different than sometimes longer-term clinical work or trauma-focused work that I've done, which goes on and on. This is much more like, "We can take care of this." MEGAN NEFF: I like that kind of work. It's funny, I work long term as a therapist, but it can be really nice to then have those cases where it's like, "Oh, we can actually address this in five sessions and get you on your way." REBECCA MINOR: Mm-hmm (affirmative.) MEGAN NEFF: Which is very, like, I feel like a heretical thing to say when you come from the psychodynamic tradition, but I actually really like having a balance of the two, yeah. REBECCA MINOR: Yeah. MEGAN NEFF: So, I think how we met is kind of interesting because it goes back to this identity thing. So, I was working in the like, autism, ADHD space, primarily. You were working in the gender-expansive space primarily. I started seeing like, oh my gosh, there's so much overlap with queerness, and specifically, gender queerness among neurodivergent people. So, I started learning about queerness. You on the other hand, do you want to share what you were discovering in your practice? REBECCA MINOR: Yeah, and I was going to say, I think I do remember how we met, which is mostly that I was like, "Hello, am I autistic?" Which is probably how you meet a lot of people. But I started noticing I was like, wait a minute, if I really sit down and think about it started with one client, right? Who came in and had seen something online and was like, "I think I might be autistic." And I was like, "That's markedly different, like what you're describing is markedly different than what my training had been." And like in high school, I had volunteered in what? At that point, we were calling the special needs classroom and worked with autistic folks. And you know, the tropes that I had understood about that were so different than the clients I was working with. But once I started peeling back some of the layers and reading more of the current research, I was like, "Oh, oh, are all of my clients neurodivergent and I missed it?" Like, and so, it really set off this thing for me where I got hyper fixated and was researching like crazy, and taking all the self-measures, and trying to figure out not only what was going on for all of my clients, but also what was going on for me. And so, I think that's when we started talking because I was like, this is just a fascinating clinical thing that I'm seeing. And also, I'm not clearly fitting into one of these categories, and I love your Venn diagrams for that reason because I'm like, you know, I've got a little bit of various things and the visuals made so much sense to my brain. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, yeah. REBECCA MINOR: Yeah. MEGAN NEFF: I love that. Yeah, we were having parallel process. And then, for me, in my process, I was unpacking queer identities, which for me came after the autism discovery, which you were further along in that journey. So, it was a really cool friendship where both clinically, but personally, we were kind of exploring, like, the other specialty which we had been led to by our home base… Okay, I have a visual of what I'm trying to say, but I'm not putting into words well. But yeah, I think that's, yeah, that we were able to kind of both explore each other's specialty in conversation. REBECCA MINOR: Yeah. And that's when we were like, "Wait, why aren't people talking about this more?" And then I think that's when we got the idea for starting that, like, ask our followers questions about that intersection. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that'd be a helpful thing to get into, but we like to anchor in lived experience here. So, can you share a little bit more about your own neural queerness and your journey around that, or whatever you want to share around that? REBECCA MINOR: Sure. So, I think one of, kind of, the place that I've comfortably settled is in using neuro queer as a label identity-wise. I'd gotten comfortable with the concept of queerness and that felt good to me, then I became aware of how inextricably linked I think my queerness is to my neurodivergence. And so, it just felt like it made so much sense and it's easier to say. That's one thing. But I did go through a long process, and I'm still navigating the, like, "What exactly is going on here?" In terms of my own brain. I have a trauma history and a history of anxiety. And so, those things can confuse some of the, you know, they can present in some similar ways. And so, it's been a journey of kind of parsing out like, what's potentially autism? What's potentially ADHD? What's potentially trauma or anxiety? Or this or that? Or, you know, being burned out? Or just the combination of like being alive during a pandemic. So, yeah, it's been interesting. At times, it's been pretty difficult and emotional. And you've been so lovely and gentle with me, which I appreciate, when I have weird questions, or I'm like, "Does this mean this?" And you're like, "Well, not always." But yeah, so I feel kind of like, I definitely meet criteria for ADHD, that feels solid. And I think- MEGAN NEFF: Thank you too. REBECCA MINOR: And I was going to say anyone in my life would also concur. And then I have like a sprinkling of other things that one might consider to be like- MEGAN NEFF: I call it the neurodivergent potpourri bag. REBECCA MINOR: Yes, yes. That's me. Got some family history in there. So, yeah, it's been interesting, and I think professionally, it's always a weird thing to navigate that like, personal/professional line of how much do I share? How much do I not share? Is it okay for me to talk about these different things if I don't feel like I can use the hashtag actually autistic because I don't have a diagnosis? Do I need formal diagnosis? And the thoughts go on, you know? So, that's kind of where I am. I'm happy to talk about it, it's a fine thing to say. MEGAN NEFF: And yes, I think I know that about you from having seen you in public spaces. And that's something I like about your presentation style is how openly you talk about this. I'm kind of diverging from where I initially thought we might go. And I do want to get back to talking about gender queerness. But I think this will wrap into it. Part of what you're talking about is being in process of your own identity as a clinician, but also, as a public clinician, I didn't mention this, but you also have a platform on Instagram, and you create content as well. I heard on a blog post a couple years ago, that's probably been the one that gets the most feedback from clinicians, and it's about being an identity-based practitioner, when our practice is based on our identity in the sense of, I am an autistic therapist, therefore, autistic clients come to me. In our training, we're taught so much about like, blank slate, don't disclose. I'm just curious, both Patrick and Rebecca, your thoughts around exploring our identity while you're seeing clients. And then, also, while doing it publicly not just privately because there's a lot there. REBECCA MINOR: Yeah. PATRICK CASALE: See, we're doing a good job today. We're reading each other's facial expressions and all those things. I love that you just asked that question. I just want to also apologize for my voice today to everyone listening, it's struggling. I actually just had this conversation in our team meeting with our staff about using identity-based language, and especially, if they feel safe enough to do so because we are a practice that specializes in supporting the neurodivergent and queer communities in Western North Carolina. I know we've talked about this, Megan, at length, but I do think it's nuanced. We always say that. I feel like that's going to just become incorporated into our fucking conversations on this podcast is the word nuance. But it is nuanced, and it is complex, and I think it's also advocacy at its truest form for our clients who are so desperately trying to find a landing spot, a place where they can feel safe and comfortable, a place where they don't have to, you know, explain everything over again, maybe their circumstances are different, but they don't have to say or explain everything in a clinical interview like they typically would. And I just think it's so powerful, and so much more humanizing when we use identity-based language, when we are able to show up in those spaces. And I also think it's also really complicated, especially, for those of us who have audiences who have followings, as we're also unpacking our own identities, as we're also unpacking our own neurodivergent journeys. Like, for those of us who were diagnosed in adulthood, sometimes you get it wrong. And sometimes you're also unpacking your own internalized ableism that's existed throughout most of your life. And I think then you walk it back, and you learn, and you try, and you try again, and you continuously show up even when you get it wrong. And I think that's the most important piece here, for those of us who are showing up in public spaces. But again, I just cannot say enough how much I think that speaking out openly, and disclosing, and using identity-based language is just so important in terms of advocacy across the board for people who just don't feel safe enough to be able to do the same things that we can do. MEGAN NEFF: It certainly makes the countertransference more hot, is what I've noticed. Like, when your client is working through things that you're also working through. REBECCA MINOR: That's true. MEGAN NEFF: And Rebecca, I think you've experienced some of that or am I projecting? REBECCA MINOR: No, no, that's totally fine. I've definitely experienced that because, in real-time, it was like I was working with clients who were like, "Wait, is this, you know, what's been going on all these years?" And it explains all these things. And like, there's the relief, and the like aha of that. But there's also the grief and the pain that comes with that, and holding that for clients in session, but also, navigating that myself, it's a lot. And then, I also think about the parent audience, which I also have because I work with young people, right? So, like my teenage clients will be the first to tell you about my various neurodivergent tendencies because they have no problem with this or calling me out on them. But with parents, then it raises those questions of like, "Will they doubt my competency? Like, what does that mean?" And it was the same thing for me as coming out as queer of like, "Will parents then think I'm like luring their children into this lifestyle?" Which is not a thing, but like, is a concern. And so, yeah, it's the potpourri. MEGAN NEFF: It's going to be in the name of our episode, potpourri. PATRICK CASALE: It's definitely going to be in the description somewhere, probably on the website, too. I think the grief relief process is something we talk about a lot. And I've experienced, you know, pretty often, especially, when I was formally diagnosed at 35. I'm 37 now, it's been a year and a half journey. But I think you're right, the countertransference is really intensified, and simultaneously, the relief for the client has gone up exponentially. So, I think both of those things, as my therapist thing is always like, "Both can be true." Those are both true. And like, the ability for the client to… I also am someone who speaks openly about a former gambling addiction. When I've talked about that with clients, you see the immediate relief of like, "Oh, shit, someone gets it. Like, I'm not alone in this." And that has always been my driving force for disclosure. It's never been about like, what does it do for me? I always want to throw that asterisk in there for any clinicians who want to be like, "That's ethically not sound. Like, we don't disclose." But when we are talking about people who are represented within marginalized communities with intersectional identities, then I think its disclosure is that much more important of a therapeutic intervention and I think that when you start to realize like, that's what it's about, it's not about what it does for my sense of self. It's more about like, what does it do for the person who feels like there is no glimmer of hope? Or that things will never change or be different? REBECCA MINOR: Yes, yeah. And that's where that question of like, who is it for? It needs to be the guiding principle. One other thing you said earlier that I just didn't want to leave out was, oh, there goes brain processing, it was about getting it wrong. I was terrified of getting it wrong. And I still am, right? Like, there's still a part of me that's like, "Well, I don't know. Like, according to the data." And, you know, but in periods when I've been more burned out and gone back, and retaken some of the assessments, I'm like, "Oh, those numbers look a little different." But still, yeah, it's a thing. MEGAN NEFF: We're going to talk about RSD soon. And I think getting it wrong, well, first of all getting it wrong because like, we are all very justice-oriented. So, I think, especially, when we get it wrong for our communities and for the most marginalized communities, like I know all of us feel that deeply. And then, also, the, like, aspect of RSD. And I just read, like, social justice RSD. I hadn't heard that term before, but also, like a strong reaction to injustice. But because we've all had private conversations around this I know how much we care about not getting it wrong. And you can't be in public space and not step in it. Like, and it's good, right? It means we're… well, it's not good, but it's a sign that we are learning. REBECCA MINOR: Yes.  PATRICK CASALE: And there's a lot of unpacking to do even now and continuously. And I think that is important no matter what. But I think it's so important when you do have public space that you take up because people are following you, people are listening to you, people are sharing your stuff. So, I think there is even, it feels like almost this pressure to get it right. And that, for me is a struggle sometimes because then I get into like perfectionism mode. And I'm like, "I have to get it right. I can't post this because this could get picked apart in 100 different ways." So, then I have to step back and think like, okay, what is the purpose of what I'm creating and posting because if it's informative, if it's supposed to be supportive, encouraging, etc, then I want to put it out there regardless of the fact that someone may say, "Next time you do this you should probably use this for vernacular, or this word, or this verbiage.' And that's okay because then it's like, "Okay, I get that and I will do that the next time." But I don't want that to take away from the message either that can often be missed if we are unwilling to put ourselves out there. And that's why we all have platforms because we're willing to put ourselves out there and talk about stuff that a lot of people shy away from. REBECCA MINOR: Absolutely, yeah, and I think the more self-disclosure I've done online, in appropriate and boundaried ways, for the therapists listening, has, like you said, right? Has shocked me in its traction, right? It's the stuff where I'm like, "Oh, this is what the people want." That gets like nothing. But when I'm like, "Look, I'm messy just like you." People are like, "Awesome." And it's like shared all over the place, right? Or recently, in terms of unpacking identity and Megan Anna, you and I have talked about this as the reality of moving through the world as a queer person who holds a lot of privilege because I'm married to a cis man and how navigating that has been tricky and interesting. And so, I was so afraid of sharing about that and losing some of my queer followers who would be like, "You're another one of those, like next." And I forgot, or, you know, wasn't prioritizing the thousands of people who have reached out, and liked, and commented when I've shared like, "Hey, this is actually what my life looks like." And just in the last month I have like, built this small but growing community of women who are in straight passing relationships and navigating their queerness. And it's just been really fascinating to see. But I think I absolutely get stuck in that feedback loop of like, I was doing it yesterday with a post where I was like, writing about protected time. And then I was like, all I could hear was people being like, "Oh, nice that you have protected time, what a privilege?" You know, and then I archived the post because I was like, "Urrgh." So, yeah, it's… MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, I love that. I've definitely been there, done that. First of all, I just want to say, I love how you have, like, talked so openly about the complexity around queer identity. And how, yeah, like our marriage setup or partnership setup doesn't make an identity. And that was actually really empowering for me. I also remember, we talked the weekend before you made the post of like, kind of, revealing that you were married to a cis man. And I remember the anxiety of that. And I totally understood that. But I love how you have come into that space. That's actually partly what gave me permission because it was that question of like, okay, I am queer, our family is very queer as like, but I'm also like, not in a queer partnership. So, what do I do with that? And so, the work you've done around identity, I think, is so helpful because identity is so much bigger than the structure of our partnerships. REBECCA MINOR: Absolutely. Yeah, thank you. MEGAN NEFF: Should we shift to talk about identity and kind of gender queer identity and neuro queer identity? I know that we've done a lot of work at that intersection. And I wonder if it'd be helpful to do some of, like, a bird's eye view of some of the things that we discovered when we were asking our audience and what we've presented on, the speaker time to shift. REBECCA MINOR: Sounds good to me. MEGAN NEFF: Rebecca, do you want to do the bird eye view? Like… REBECCA MINOR: Oh, I feel like you're better at that? MEGAN NEFF: …intersection. What did you say? REBECCA MINOR: I said, "Oh, I feel like you're better at that." MEGAN NEFF: Okay, I will try and then, you will [CROSSTALK 00:23:30]. REBECCA MINOR: … yeah. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, so, okay. So, I mean, we know that there's a huge overlap of queerness and neurodivergence, both for autism and ADHD. It's a little bit more pronounced in autism than ADHD. So, first of all, talking about sexual queerness. There's one study, and as a disclaimer, it was a smaller study, but the study found that 70% of autistic people identified as non-heterosexual. And the language non-heterosexual they use that because it also included people who were asexual and [INDISCERNIBLE 00:24:12]. But essentially, 70% identified as some form of queer. That's huge. The research also found it's more common among people assigned female at birth. So, cis autistic men. So, people like you, Patrick, are more likely to identify as heteronormative and heterosexual than everyone else. So, this gets, I think even more pronounced when we start looking at gender queerness, and particularly, autism, but also, ADHD. There's a pretty big study done in 2021 that found that gender queer people were three to six times more likely to be diagnosed as autistic than cisgender adults. What's really interesting about that statistic is that only include people who are medically diagnosed, and so, we would suspect that number would actually be significantly higher. Other studies have found that autistic children are like four times more likely than allistic children to be genderqueer. There's other studies out there, I'll link the infographic in our podcast so people can go see the research. But essentially, it's a significant overlap between gender queerness and neurodivergence, particularly, autism and ADHD. We also see similar rates in ADHD not quite as high but also, higher than in neurotypical children and adults. That's the bird eye view. How did I do Rebecca? REBECCA MINOR: That was good. It just made me think do you have like a gut instinct as to why that is? MEGAN NEFF: Oh, gosh, I get that question so often. And I've heard some really interesting speculations. I think there are some studies around like, neuroanatomy, but I don't know those well enough to try and say at the moment. I think the idea of like, how we relate to social norms, I think is part of it. I think we're much more, you know, social norms are constructs, and I think we see them as constructs. I think- REBECCA MINOR: That's always been my thought, too. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah. So, I think we know they're there. But like I described as like, I analytically know they're there. I think RSD people experience them. Like, they experience the social norms as real things. So, I think we're much more likely to queer in the sense of query and social norms and explore. I heard a really interesting theory, recently, about sensory. Because of heightened sensory someone was experiencing gender dysphoria, particularly. That would be a more intense experience because of the body experience around that, which, that was really interesting to me as well. There's a few other kind of ideas out there, but I don't know, what about you? What do you make of the overlap? REBECCA MINOR: Well, I just, I mean, so often I think about gender, the whole concept of the binary as being its own construct, and if you're not led to constructs and you feel somewhat of a freedom to move in or out of them, it might give people an opportunity to consider possibility, right? Like, so often, I feel like when I work with people who are cisgender and allistic they've never considered any other possibilities around their gender. They're just like, "Oh, well, this is what I got handed and this is what I still am." And like, it's never been called into question, not even know, like, passing thought. Whereas, you know, obviously, I spend a bulk of my time talking with trans and gender-expansive folks, but I mean, I talk to anyone who will talk to me about gender, which also made me be like, "Oh, is that a special interest? Are people a special interest?" Like, because I've been so, so social my whole life. But anyway, sidebar. MEGAN NEFF: For sure autistics exist. REBECCA MINOR: And I know you told me that. And I still need to read that like, lipstick… I don't remember the name of that book, but like outgoing one. MEGAN NEFF: Yes, I also forget the name of the book. But yeah, she is like a very extroverted autistic. REBECCA MINOR: Yeah. But I think just being even curious enough to consider otherwise feels more available to folks who are neurodivergent. Like, they're like, "Well, I just want to see what's over here, or like, try this on, and see how that feels." And just a willingness to play, I think that feels different. MEGAN NEFF: I love that, a willingness to play. There's the soundbite now that… I'm looking at you Patrick like you maybe have a thought, but I can't tell if you do. PATRICK CASALE: I like that we all… it feels like this is set up, though, like everyone has a thought at the same time was what my experience was just happening. Like, I was looking at Megan's face, I was looking at your face, Rebecca, and I was also thinking. So, I didn't have words to put into my thoughts. I honestly agree with everything you're saying. So, I'm just nodding, and like thinking, and just thinking about things differently because as someone who honestly, has never really questioned my gender or identity, honestly, I always am curious about that in general, because I'm like, I'm just processing what you're both saying right now. I'm like, this was Megan, your stat about what you say 70% of cishet autistic men don't ever question or did I get that wrong? MEGAN NEFF: Oh, it's 70% of autistic people identified as non-heterosexual. But like the most likely autistic population to identify as heterosexual are cis men. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, that's what I was thinking about. And I was like, "Huh, this in interesting." MEGAN NEFF: So, the autistic stereotype, yeah. PATRICK CASALE: Sure, yeah. So, that's where my brain went. But then I was thinking, like, it makes a lot of sense about just playfulness and curiosity, and being willing to break out of construct, and just being like, "Yeah, this is fucking stupid. Like, who told us we were supposed to live this way?" I think that makes a lot of sense in all areas when I'm thinking about a lot of just neurodivergent people, in general. REBECCA MINOR: Absolutely. And I think Megan Anna and I are great examples of the way in which that can happen and in various orders for folks, right? Like, a lot of times people will realize one of these things, and then it frees them up to realize another. MEGAN NEFF: I did a story on my Instagram, but then the results didn't show. I don't think I am, like, enough tech savvy to try to do, like, polls on my Instagram stories and show results, which is ridiculous, but- REBECCA MINOR: I can help you. MEGAN NEFF: Thank you, I need help. But the poll I did was like if one identity discovery led to the other which identity came first? And so, was it the queer identity? And did that lead to a neurodivergent discovery or vice versa? And the results in the comments were really interesting. I really wish I knew how to show them better in a way that people could see them. But yeah, I see that all the time, where often discovery of one will open the door to the discovery of another. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, and I think that- REBECCA MINOR: [CROSSTALK 00:33:02] language? PATRICK CASALE: Sorry. REBECCA MINOR: No, it's okay. I was saying I think that even about language and pronouns, right? Like, the idea that someone could use they/them pronouns doesn't often feel available to folks who feel really bound by linguistic rules, which can get really tricky for folks who are navigating gender expansive identity, and also, autistic, depending on kind of how their autism shows up, right? For some people, they're like, "I can dance around some of these rules." And other people are so bound by those rules. And so, it can get tricky. PATRICK CASALE: Right, yeah. I agree with that. What I was thinking, Megan, about your poll, do you think that any of this has to do with the fact that regardless of which "identity" comes first, or is discovered first, that it just feels freeing to have it discovered and see the world through a completely different lens? Because so many of us, and I cannot speak for any of the queer identity perspective, but so many of us who are neurodivergent, who are seeking something all of our lives, and seeking like this landing place, and this place to just feel home, I'm using a lot of air quotes right now as if we don't record the video, feels freeing in a lot of ways. And I think that's just where my mind goes when you start to think about like, where does that one go, lead into another perspective, or identity, or realization, or aha moment? REBECCA MINOR: I think that's a similar experience for folks who come out later in life too, of there's been this long-standing like, "Something's not quite fitting here. Like, why do I feel just a little bit different?" And you know, people who then in their 30s, 40s, but you know, whatever we're considering later in life diagnosed then recognize like, "Oh, maybe that's what it is." And I think I see that fascinating. I'm fully side-baring now, so feel free to cut this. But I see that happening with people who are also recognizing… either finding out their autistic later because of their own child being diagnosed, and then having that aha, or for parents whose kids come out, and then they're like, "Oh, that's actually something that I never thought about for myself." And really kind of pull back the curtain on that and get to explore like, and that's where I see, whether it's people who are exploring their neurodivergence, or their gender identity, I see it as an opportunity for the whole family and everyone in their lives, really, to get curious about the ways in which that might be showing up for them too. MEGAN NEFF: I have certainly lived that, where I think the first person to come out in my, like, extended family was one of my children at a youngish age. And then, like, that just kind of, yeah, it's like it opened up a conversation that wasn't a conversation before. And not just in our immediate family, but like beyond that. And it makes me so proud of these kids who, like, are owning who they are, and then, like, empowering the adults to do that. And like, I'm cringing as I say that because it sounds kind of like parentified to be like, the kids are empowering the adults. But I also think there's like generational movements and pieces in there, where a lot of us just grew up, especially, if we grew up religious, in spaces where, like, it just, like, how comfortably my family, like, with our kids, we talk about queerness, and we talk about identity, and like the fact that from a young age, we never defaulted to like, "When you grow up and marry a man." It was like, "When you grow up and have a partner." Like, that just wasn't accessible to so many of us who are in our 30s, and 40s, and beyond. REBECCA MINOR: Absolutely not. Yeah, and adding the religious piece is a whole other element of that, which you and I have talked about, too, of like, part of why I am so comfortable talking about gender and sexuality is I never got that messaging. Like, sex was talked about in a really positive, just normal, kind of, like, it's okay to mention it at the dinner table kind of attitude, which is baffling to other people. And so, I think, yeah, there are real shifts happening generationally, which is like, what we really want to see, right? I feel like that's my, like, life's work is, is working towards that generational change where kids can be exactly who they are and we all need to catch up. PATRICK CASALE: That is a really good point that you both made. But that's exactly what I was saying before in terms of advocacy and having an audience because when we're talking about movements, that's where this stuff comes from is advocacy efforts from people who are willing to show up and share their own stories. And my brain is diverging because Rebecca, you mentioned something before about like, not wanting to post the messy side of life, but then those are the things people are always like, "Oh, yeah, that's exactly what I need." It's just because as people, I just think we're wired for connection, and we want relatability, and we want to know that we're not alone. So, that's the content, too. That's like, you throw something up there, you don't perfect it, and you're just like, yeah, take a glimpse at like what this is like for me on a day-to-day and people are like, "Holy shit, this is my life too." MEGAN NEFF: And I think it adds a layer when we're therapists. I can't remember the name, but there's a New York Times bestseller a few years back now of a therapist who is maybe one of the first to like, the book is about her own mental health. And it was a really a breakthrough moment of like therapists talking about their imperfections because in traditional therapy, it's like you go to the therapist, they're supposed to have it all together, all figured out. But I think people are really responding to… it makes us more human as therapists if, you know, we also have messy kitchens, we also are in process around identities. Now, we know how to contain that, we now have boundaries so that like what's coming into that therapeutic space is intentional. But there's something really powerful that I've seen happening in the last five years, particularly, where therapists are becoming more humanized. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah. REBECCA MINOR: And I think it had to happen. Like, the model of the blank slate, like, barely says anything just like furiously takes notes therapist doesn't work for people. It certainly wouldn't work for my clients. MEGAN NEFF: Particularly, not neurodivergent clients or many queer clients. REBECCA MINOR: No. MEGAN NEFF: It doesn't create safety. REBECCA MINOR: No. And now when I think about retention, I'm like, "Oh, no wonder people are still here." Because like, you can see what's all over my face all the time. Like, there's no… it was feedback I got in grad school, right? Like, you should tone it down. And like, the thing that the feedback I get from clients is like, it's so comforting to me because I always know what you're thinking, or how you're responding to something, or like that you're with me. And it's not intentional, it's just my face. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, if it wasn't your face it would be a lot of effort and energy into masking that expression or that reaction. REBECCA MINOR: Right, right. PATRICK CASALE: And I think clients, they really resonate with that of like, "Oh, my God." Like, my wife will sometimes tell me I need to fix my face because my reactions are my reactions. And she's like, "Don't react that way in this environment." I'm like, "Ooh." But in the therapy room, it's really helpful, it's really therapeutic because like, it takes away from that guessing game that clients sometimes have to play of like, that [INDISCERNIBLE 00:41:24] the way I needed it to, "Are you taken aback by what I said? Are you uncomfortable with what I just told you?" And I like the new era of psychotherapy that we're moving into a blank relatability because I strongly believe this. And I say this all the freaking time that relatability is accessibility. And I believe that wholeheartedly. REBECCA MINOR: I like that. PATRICK CASALE: And on our webpage for our group practice says like, "No head nodding, how does it make you feel? We're therapists here?" And like, we get so many calls from people who are like, "Yeah, you're our people." And my marketing person last year, when we were creating the website was like, "You're going to turn off a lot of clients who are uncomfortable with using the F-bomb and saying it this way." And I'm like, "Good, those are not our clients anyway, we don't want those people to call us." REBECCA MINOR: Right, yeah, that's not your fit. Absolutely. I love that you say no head nodding, how does that make you feel? Because that's the thing, right? Like, that's why people don't want to go to therapy. I hated therapy, initially, when I was forced to go as a child. And like, that poor woman, she tried to have me do art therapy and I scribbled with a black marker all over a piece of paper and was like, [CROSSTALK 00:42:36]- PATRICK CASALE: [CROSSTALK 00:42:40]. REBECCA MINOR: Yeah. MEGAN NEFF: That's sassy. I love it. REBECCA MINOR: Was very sassy. She called my mom in and was like, "I'm not sure that this is going to work." PATRICK CASALE: We can't fix her. But what happened to me early on in similar environments is like, the sterile nature of like, how can I ever open up, and be myself, and feel comfortable enough to actually share what's happening for me if it's just sterile, and it's just head nodding, and there's no response. And, you know, I just struggled with that so much growing up as someone who has been in and out of therapy since I was five, and just the reality and realization of like, you can be the best therapist in the world clinically, and use every technique and intervention under the sun, but if there's no relatability, and no ability to build relationship, rapport, and connection, I'm not even listening to you. Like, I'm already thinking about when I leave this place, I'm never coming back here. And that's just the reality. REBECCA MINOR: Yeah. I just had a question pop into my head as you were sharing that and I don't know if it feels okay to go here or not. But again, feel free to skip this. But I just wonder what it was like for you having been in and out of therapy since five to not be diagnosed for another 30 years? PATRICK CASALE: Well, to answer your first question first, which is, is it okay to go there? And we encourage all the divergent pathways on this podcast. So, absolutely. I think there's two answers here. I'm doing this [INDISCERNIBLE 00:44:12] Jesus. But there are two answers, right? Like, there's the answer here of me sitting here today who can like zoom out, look at life, and be like, "Wow, that was really hard." And then there's the answer of like, if I can drop into that life at five and onwards, it was really hard, which is what made me seek out diagnosis because I kept, I've told Megan this a million times, I was seeking that like, "What the fuck is happening?" Like, why is this happening to me? Like, why do I feel every second of every day, of every experience, and every situation so intensely? Why is it so hard for me to connect? Like, all of the questions that we ask ourselves, that has been constant for 35 years of life? So, I think it's also this… And I've said this publicly, too, and I know my parents listen to this podcast, but there's almost this, and I think, for a lot of people who are my age, and in this age group who were not diagnosed until later on in life were like, "What the hell is happening here? Like, where did this get missed?" And my mom's response, initially, to my diagnosis was like, "Well, that wasn't my experience of how your childhood was. You were really social and you really do not stop centering, right? Like, let's make it more about what's happening today. Here's the information that I'm sharing with you." But that's what it was. And my mom was an LCSW in private practice, like, how do these things get missed? And I think it's because my parents are divorced, have been divorced since I was five, very messy stuff. I spent a lot of time alone. A lot of times they'll see that I played soccer. I was like, that's what I was supposed to do. And that's just how reality was for me. And I think to sum up your question, the answer is hard, but in different ways. Like, hard now cognitively, to think about it from a therapeutic perspective and as someone who's done a lot of work, and then, hard as like, "Damn, it was really hard just existing." REBECCA MINOR: Yeah, yeah. Thank you for sharing that. I think, as part of my searching for answers, I went and reviewed some of my report cards. And was like, "Hello." Like, it felt so clear. It's like she's so chatty, like, really smart, getting stuff done, but like real peaks and valleys of like, gravely struggling in some subjects, and like, off the charts in others. But again, there are just so many questions where I'm like, "Where were the grownups?" Like, and it's also what information they have, right? Like, I wasn't a boy who was obsessed with trans. Or I wasn't my sibling who was assigned male at birth, who did get an ADHD diagnosis. So, you know, there are a lot of factors at play. But I just think about that, like, holding that reality of having been in various care settings for so long and still feeling like this didn't get picked up. MEGAN NEFF: Diversion two now, but that reminds me… There's an interesting emotional experience that happens and I don't know your sibling, if this tracks, but an example of let's say one child has like level two or level three autism or what would be, I guess, I hear clinicians talk about like more severe ADHD. I don't obviously like that language, but like, more impacted, more evident ADHD, when that child gets diagnosed, the child that perhaps maybe they're level one autism, or maybe they internalize, that sibling often gets missed because so much of the resources is going to the child who's struggling more. Like, that's a unique experience as a sibling. And then when that sibling later in life discovers this identity, I have seen that be a really complex experience of like, the word misattunement comes to mind, like when you're asking Patrick about, yes, 30 years of therapy, especially, 30 years in misattunement when we're discovering that much of our life was happening in this context of misattunement, either from therapists or from our families, that's painful. REBECCA MINOR: Yeah. And much like Patrick, I had, you know, the context of very messy divorce and a whole… You know, there were so many things happening, that it wasn't the focal point. And I was doing well in school. So, it just didn't really matter because there weren't, you know, and I didn't have behavioral issues besides being chatty. MEGAN NEFF: Did you have mental health issues. REBECCA MINOR: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. MEGAN NEFF: Right, that's the classic story, right? Like, we internalize. REBECCA MINOR: I am like the queen of having a panic attack in the bathroom and coming back to class and looking like everything's fine. So, yeah, totally, it came out in other ways and physical ways too that I'm now tracking. I'm like, "Oh, it's not normal for eight-year-olds to have migraines." Or like, you know, so consistently. Or other, you know, various stomach stuff like GI is so often connected to. I missed so much high school for like, what no one could figure out GI symptoms. They were just like, "Take some Prilosec, good luck." But it wasn't until I started managing my anxiety better that, that made sense, right? So, yeah, there's so many… I think misattunement is a useful frame for that. And I think feels really validating to think about it through that lens. And I also have a mother who's a LICSW. MEGAN NEFF: Wait, and I have a dad who's a psychologist. REBECCA MINOR: Oh, wow. MEGAN NEFF: [CROSSTALK 00:50:34] like family systems was that we all became. Fascinating. REBECCA MINOR: It is fascinating. And it's been fascinating to unpack some of that too. Like being, like, it's not just my sibling to have it, but like I have it, and also, like, mom, you might have it too. PATRICK CASALE: Absolutely, those are good conversations to have when you're able to have them. I was telling Megan that I had one with my dad while I took him to Spain for his birthday a couple of months ago. And I was like, we're drinking, which I knew this conversation was going to come from that. But I was like, "Yeah, so I don't know, if you've been listening to my podcast. I'm autistic, you've never asked me about it. I think you're autistic too. And here are all the reasons why I think you're autistic." And instead of, like, this rebuttal or reaction, just like, "Yeah, that makes sense." And I was like, "I don't know what to do with this information now." I was expecting a very different conversation. But this is why I like and I've talked about this on here too, like, IFS work and re-parenting work, and inner child work so much because even though it's still a struggle for me when my therapist is like, "What would you do with five-year-old Patrick? And how would you comfort him?" And I'm like, "I don't fucking know. I have no idea how to answer that." But the parts work and the ability to piece that together, and like stress it out, and like look at it from a million different perspectives is super useful for me. And it's honestly, the first modality that I've been like, yeah, this is my jam. Like, everything else I don't care about anymore. This is the only way I'll do therapy going forward. REBECCA MINOR: Same. MEGAN NEFF: That's true. REBECCA MINOR: I do like EMDR, but IFS… MEGAN NEFF: Oh, yeah, you do EMDR, don't you? REBECCA MINOR: Yeah, not as much anymore, but it was useful. MEGAN NEFF: I'm feeling a collective like, is this our collective conversations coming to an end? Or is this a collective-like, sigh of the heaviness of what we've just been talking about? What is this energy I'm feeling? REBECCA MINOR: It felt more like the latter to me. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, yeah. Me too. PATRICK CASALE: Yes, me too. Yeah, I actually feel like we could have this like a five-hour podcast episode right now, which feels really good. It feels like it's been a good conversation. I have no idea how long we've been talking. So, to everyone listening, if you're still listening, we appreciate it. We've been talking for over an hour. So, I think we can continue on, I think we can do a lot of different things right now. MEGAN NEFF: Rebecca, do you have a hard stop at 1:00 your time? Okay. REBECCA MINOR: I do. I actually for one of the very first times in my life, I put a buffer between this and my next. Actually, I'm going to be on another podcast. I'm having a podcast day. But now that's something that I'm learning to do for myself. It's been really hard, and it's still hard. But I am trying to put space between things and not push myself past my limits. It's really revolutionary. MEGAN NEFF: I'm going to check in on you on that in like a month. I'm going to be like, "How are the buffers?" Because, yeah, I've noticed that about your schedule. REBECCA MINOR: Right, yeah, yeah. And while we're on an IFS kick, I explored that kind of urgency in IFS and that's been really interesting working with that, and also, like, as a legacy burden, that something that we inherit, but also, how much of that has to do with my neurodivergence and that I have so many ideas, and I'm afraid I'll lose something or something's falling through the cracks, or I'll forget if I don't hurry and do it right now. Or I'm like, "Oh, I need to empty the dishwasher." And then, I'm halfway through that when something else comes up, and yeah. PATRICK CASALE: [CROSSTALK 00:54:55] head nodding right now. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, like the inability to trust my energy. And what I mean by that. So, like, if I have an interest in a project, I have to pounce, even if it means I'm staying up to 1:00 and I'm not doing any of the sleep hygiene stuff I always talk about because it's, I don't know that this interest, therefore, this energy will be reliable and available to me tomorrow. So, there is that like, sense of urgency because I don't trust my mind or I don't trust my energy. And that's it. Like, that's a hard aspect of being ADHD is the difficulty trusting will my mind hold this? Will my energy be there? Will my interest be there? And not being able to predict therefore schedule. I think that's why non-ADHDers when they're like, "Let's do a planner, and let's schedule." What they don't realize of part of why that's so hard for the ADHD brain not just breaking up tasks, but like, I don't know what kind of energy I'm going to wake up with on to Wednesday. So, how do I schedule out? Like, am I going to have a lot of cognitive energy, but not much body energy, or flipped? Yeah. REBECCA MINOR: Did your camera just move? MEGAN NEFF: It did, yes. When I do hand motions it moves. REBECCA MINOR: It's not making things up. MEGAN NEFF: No, that happened. PATRICK CASALE: Now, it feels like we're in an ending place. That's at least how I'm picking up on what we're experiencing. REBECCA MINOR: You know, what I realized, though? We never talked about the thing we said we were going to talk about, with like the polls and stuff, which we don't need to. MEGAN NEFF: Oh, like getting into the detailed experience of when these identities intersect. Yeah, yeah, we can link to our masterclass that we have where we do like, and I think that's probably better because that's more of a kind of content lecture-based presentation. And it's probably, a more helpful way to absorb all that kind of high-up information. But yeah, basically, when the identities intersect, it's really complicated. It complicates both identities. You and I have talked about that a lot from like, sensory to executive functioning, to navigating medical systems. And yes, we have a whole masterclass, it's an hour-long that's available. Oh, we should make a coupon code for people who listened so they can get it at a lower rate? I'll do that. And we'll put it in the notes. But is there anything that we didn't talk about around the intersection that you feel like is important? REBECCA MINOR: I think probably just acknowledging that some of the challenges will be a little bit different. And to try your best, as hard as it can be to find a provider who will understand both of those experiences, which is tricky. MEGAN NEFF: It's tricky. REBECCA MINOR: And if not, you made that helpful flowchart of kind of like, which one is harder right now? And focusing on that. Like, if it feels like the autism is like the key piece, then find someone who really knows their stuff about autism, and hopefully, is decent about gender. And kind of fill in the gaps where you can and vice versa because there aren't a lot of us who are, you know, equally is hyper fixated on this intersection. MEGAN NEFF: Oh, sorry. REBECCA MINOR: No, go ahead. MEGAN NEFF: I was just going to say we should also do a shout-out to FINN's work. We're both Finn's consultation group, Finn Gratton. They have Supporting Autistic Youth, I think is the title. I have it back here. I'll link that in the show notes as well. But that's for clinicians listening, please go buy that book. It's amazing. And I think also for parents, it's a great resource. And even for individuals. I think it's a really validating read. It's more intended for parents and therapists, but I think for individuals it's also a great read. So, there are some wonderful resources available at this intersection. And we will point to some of those. REBECCA MINOR: Yeah, and I think it's a danger to assume that you're never going to need to know that or it's not your population that you work with. Like, I didn't focus a lot on autism because I was like, "I'm in the gender world." And then I was like, "Wait a minute, you literally cannot be in the gender world without also understanding autism." MEGAN NEFF: And same ways you cannot be working with neurodivergent clients and not understand gender queerness, yeah, yeah. REBECCA MINOR: And that's one thing that's also been really nice with the parent coaching is being able to work with parents who are navigating both of those pieces and they do present with different concerns around their kid less so like, are they really trans or do they really know? But more just that, I think they've been very hands-on parents a lot of the time because what's often- MEGAN NEFF: Often the neurodivergence, yeah, absolutely, yeah. REBECCA MINOR: So, that, and like that kind of like autism mom trope, and like, needing to be on top of every detail, and like, it really blindsides them because they're like, "No, I know, my kid and I know what they need." And navigating that combination can be really tricky and… MEGAN NEFF: Especially, medically because medical providers might see that and be like, "Is the parent pushing this kid's identity piece? The kid needs to be more involved." But maybe the child cannot speak in those medical settings, maybe. And so, the parent often becomes more of an advocate, and that gets complicated when navigating gender affirming medical care. REBECCA MINOR: Absolutely. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah. REBECCA MINOR: It's really pieces too of like, "Oh, well, they're saying they want us to call them this new name and these new pronouns, but they're not changing their clothes." I'm like, "Well, have you considered that those are the clothes that are familiar, and they're comfortable, and that…" Like, frankly, a lot of what we consider women's clothing is not comfortable. So, you know, maybe they're not wanting to like shimmy themselves into something that's so tight they can't breathe. And that's not an indicator of whether or not they're exploring their gender. So, yeah, that's what I'm happy to help people with. MEGAN NEFF: Yeah, can you share a little bit about where people can find you? I know, you've got several resources for parents. And yeah, can you share a little bit about that. REBECCA MINOR: My website is genderspecialist.com. And on there, I have a course called How to Talk to Kids About Gender, that's for all parents. It's not specific to folks who have trans or gender-expansive kids, but just if you know or care about kids, here are some helpful ways to talk about gender with them. And then, also, information about [PH 01:02:20] peer coaching, which is great because it's not bound by licensure. So, I can work with folks wherever they are. So, I've actually been able to do some of that internationally, lately, which is really cool. And otherwise, I have lots of free downloads and like a glossary of terms because there's a lot of language to learn and some basics like Now What guides of like, "Okay, so my kid just came out like… Now what?" So, I've got you covered there, and lots of blogs. And then, as you mentioned earlier, I'm also on Instagram @gender.specialist. So, yeah. MEGAN NEFF: Awesome, awesome. Thank you so much for taking the time. I know your schedule is wildly busy. So, thank you. Oh, my gosh, my voice. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your schedule to talk with us. This has been a fun conversation. REBECCA MINOR: Thank you so much. It was so nice to finally meet you, Patrick. PATRICK CASALE: Yeah, you too. This was great. So, really awesome conversation. Thank you so much for being on here. REBECCA MINOR: Thanks, guys. PATRICK CASALE: And to everyone listening to the Divergent Conversations Podcast, all of Rebecca's information will be in the show notes, links, all of the things we talked about today, and all the things that Megan mentioned, as well. And new episodes are out on every single Friday. Like, download, subscribe, and share.

For our 51st podcast episode, I discussed a contensious topic in the neonatal world, Gastroesophageal Reflux (GER) and Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease (GERD). Although it is a common occurrence amongst all infants, the lack of updated, clear, and consistent diagnostic and management recommendations remains, especially for the NICU population. Due to my personal and professional experiences, it is difficult for me to have one solid stance on the topic. As a former NICU nurse, I saw so many infants experience reflux. As a NICU parent, my son William, struggled with reflux once we brought him home and yes, at that time, it was managed with medication. And finally, now as a Neonatal Nurse Practitioner, I am more knowledgeable about what the evidence does and does not show regarding reflux and I understand its complexity. So I can fully appreciate how nurses advocate for their patients. I also completely acknowledge the internal battle parents endure as they helplessly watch their baby grapple with reflux and its associated symptoms, and I also embrace what the research has shown and why providers do not hastily start infants on reflux medications. Tune in now to learn the difference between Gastroesophageal Reflux and Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease, some common symptoms, and how it is typically diagnosed. Be amazed as I debunk some of the common myths and conditions that are thought to be associated with GERD. Additionally, listeners will also walk away with a better understanding of the most up-to-date recommendations for the management of GER and GERD including non-pharmacological and pharmacological treatments. So sit back and get ready to be empowered as we discuss Gastroesophageal Reflux. Free Resource: https://empoweringnicuparents.com/ger/Dr. Brown's Medical: https://www.drbrownsmedical.comOur NICU Roadmap: A Comprehensive NICU Journal: https://empoweringnicuparents.com/nicujournal/NICU Mama Hats: https://empoweringnicuparents.com/hats/NICU Milestone Cards: https://empoweringnicuparents.com/nicuproducts/Newborn Holiday Cards: https://empoweringnicuparents.com/shop/Empowering NICU Parents Show Notes: https://empoweringnicuparents.com/shownotes/Episode 51 Show Notes: https://empoweringnicuparents.com/episode51Empowering NICU Parents Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/empoweringnicuparents/Empowering NICU Parents FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/empoweringnicuparentsPinterest Page: https://pin.it/36MJjmH

Dr. John Neustadt discusses How to Prevent and Reverse Osteoporosis with Dr. Ben Weitz. [If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, so more people will find The Rational Wellness Podcast. Also check out the video version on my WeitzChiro YouTube page.]    Podcast Highlights 3:08  Epidemic of osteoporosis.  Today we have an epidemic of bone loss termed osteopenia and osteoporosis in the US and one reason is because our society is getting older.  In fact around the globe, there are now more people over age 65 than younger than five.  About 80% of osteoporosis cases are women and the fastest rate of bone loss is as women go through menopause and the ten years after menopause. 4:03  Women more at risk.  The main reason why women are more at risk for osteoporosis has to do with their loss of estrogen as they get older.  Another risk factor for women is the use of antidepressant medications that artificially raise serotonin levels and there are serotonin receptors in the bones that stimulate increased osteoclastic activity, leading to more bone breakdown.  As people get older they also tend to have more inflammation such as autoimmune diseases and they tend to have more insomnia, etc., which are both associated with poor bone health. The average American woman also only gets about 800 mg of calcium per day from their diet, which is below the recommendation. They are also not getting enough of the micronutrients found in fruits and vegetables, which puts them not only at increased risk of osteoporosis but also for cardiovascular disease, dementia, etc.  Have less muscle mass also puts post-menopausal women at risk as well and partially due to not getting enough protein in their diet and also due to not doing enough exercise, esp. resistance exercise. Osteoporosis is a chronic disease, so it doesn't just have one cause. 7:54  Medications.  There are a number of other common medications that result in a loss of bone mass.  Proton pump inhibitors, acid blocking medication often prescribed for reflux and other gastrointestinal complaints, such as Prilosec, damage bone and increase fracture risk.  PPIs block calcium, magnesium, and other minerals from being digested and absorbed from our food.  Taking a PPI for four years results in a 60% increased risk of a hip fracture. As mentioned, SSRIs, antidepressants, increased bone loss and for every 19 people taking an SSRI, we would expect one to break a bone.  There is also a long list of other medications that increase bone loss, including anticonvulsants like Phenytoin, prednisolone and other glucocorticoids, and aromatase inhibitors. 12:28  Detecting and assessing bone health.  The standard of care is a bone density test through a type of x-ray called dual x-ray absorptiometry test, a DEXA test, and that detects the quantity of bone and that's used to diagnose bone.  A T-score of -2.5 or lower is diagnostic of osteoporosis.  While bone density is an important marker to look at, the most important factor is fracture risk, which depends upon a number of factors, only one of which is bone density.  Bone density only predicts 44% of women who will break a bone and only 21% of men. There are various factors that can affect the accuracy of the bone density test, including which mean is used, how they are positioned including that the hips are internally rotated 15 degrees or if they are very thin or obese or have arterial calcifications or bad arthritis in their spine of if they are taking strontium.  17:10   Bone Turnover tests.  There are tests that measure whether you are losing or gaining bone, including the C-Telopeptide test, which is a breakdown product of collagen in bone.  If CTX is high it means you're breaking down collagen and that has been associated with an increase in fracture risk.  The most consistent predictor of fractures in gait or mobility.  Can you get up from a seated position on a chair or the floor to st...

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Dr. Steven Sandberg-Lewis discusses Healing Reflux with Dr. Ben Weitz. [If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, so more people will find The Rational Wellness Podcast. Also check out the video version on my WeitzChiro YouTube page.]    Podcast Highlights 2:50  Heartburn.  Heartburn is a subjective sensation of burning, usually over the sternum, and it can be intense and sharp. People can even feel like they are having a heart attack.  Not all patients who have heartburn have reflux, though the majority do have reflux.  Regurgitation is when fluid or food comes up into the throat or mouth and this can be related to reflux. 4:57  Reflux.  Reflux can have to do with any fluid going through a tube in the wrong direction.  When the contents of the large intestine move from the large intestine to the small intestine instead from the small intestine down to the large intestine, this is called cecoileal reflux or ileocecal reflux.  If things move from the small intestine up into the stomach, that's called bile reflux. If things move from the stomach into the esophagus, that's called gastroesophageal reflux disease, GERD.  There is also GER, which is a normal reflux that occurs say three times after every average meal when some food or fluid from the stomach will move up into the lower esophagus and it doesn't cause symptoms.  This is not a disease and considered normal.  Reflux doesn't have to cause reflux disease, but it can if it's prolonged or if the esophagus is not able to protect itself with various protective factors. Normally our saliva, which is slightly alkaline and which is being swallowed every minute and helps to neutralize any acid that comes up. There are secondary contractions that contract the lower esophagus to move things down. There's also mucus production that coats the mucosal membrane of the esophagus.  If these mechanisms fail, then you can get Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease.  Therefore it is important to naturally bolster the protective factors in the esophagus. 7:32  What causes reflux?  For one thing, while it is often called acid reflux most patients do not start out having too much acid production.  In fact, many of them have too little stomach acid production. But after being on proton pump inhibitors like Prilosec, AcipHex, Prevacid, Protonix, and Nexium for a while, if they stop them even for short period of time to get the Heidelberg test that Dr. SS-L often performs, they will often get a rebound hypersecretion of acid, which makes it difficult to accurately test their acid levels in their stomach.  While the proton pump inhibitor is preventing the parietal cells in the stomach from making acid, the body keeps secreting more and more gastrin to stimulate those parietal cells to make acid. 10:25  The major causes of GERD include a sliding hiatal hernia.  This is when the upper 2-3 cm of the stomach slides up through the diaphragm that engages the lower esophageal sphincter that normally protects from reflux.  When the stomach moves up, you lose a lot of that anti-reflux muscle function.  Another reason is people who overeat or who eat rapidly will more likely have reflux.  When you eat too quickly, you don't get the signal to your brain that you're full.  Overeating or anything that causes distension of the stomach, such as gas, will lead the lower esophageal sphincter to relax and stay open for up to 20 seconds.  This is why SIBO can be a trigger for reflux.  Food sensitivities can also lead to reflux. Atrophic gastritis, those who don't make enough stomach acid, can lead to heartburn symptoms.  18:25  H. Pylori is generally protective against reflux.  H. pylori is a bacteria in the stomach that is a major cause of ulcers and many feel that it is a cause of reflux. While H. pylori can cause a type of lymphoma in the stomach called MALToma and it can cause gastritis and it can increase the risk of stomach cancer. H.

This is Part Two of my Allergies + Food Sensitivities series. If you have not listened to Part One, you can listen by clicking here. Ever wondered if what you're feeding your pet is impacting their health? Our deep-dive into the potential risks of Proton Pump Inhibitors (PPIs), like Omeprazole and Prilosec for dogs and cats, might just make you rethink their dietary needs. We break down the complexity of how these acid reducers can throw off your pet's gut microbiome, inviting health issues such as gastroenteritis and increasing the risk of strokes. We stress why a diverse diet of fruits, vegetables, and meats is key for a balanced gut microbiome, determining your pet's well-being. Don't miss our comprehensive discussion on histamine management in dogs, where we showcase natural antihistamines and the factors that can diminish DAO and HMMT enzymes - antibiotics, antihistamines, vaccines, inadequate diets, and NSAIDs. We highlight the toll leaky gut and food sensitivities take on DAO enzymes and suggest various herbs and foods that can lower histamine levels, providing anti-inflammatory benefits. We wrap up the episode with solid tips for maintaining a healthy dog, touching on critical aspects like vaccinations, heartworm protection, air quality regulation, metal testing, pesticide avoidance, natural pest control, and the use of organic foods. We hope this episode helps you take the necessary steps to lighten your pet's liver burden and boost their gut health. Topics Covered: 0:00:02 - Food Sensitivities and Acid Reducers0:14:05 - Histamine and Liver Health in Dogs 0:19:30 - Natural Ways to Manage Histamine Levels0:27:31 - Tips for a Healthy Dog Sponsored By: The Adored Beast Apothecary RealMushrooms.com Check Out Rita: Rita's Instagram Facebook Group My Courses My Website and Store

For anyone sober-curious, I thought I would share some of the ways my life has improved over the past year.1. I didn't realize it at the time, but not only was I numbing myself from feeling stress and anxiety, but I was numbing myself from being able to experience joy and elation. I didn't know what it was like to feel all the good feels because my baseline was numb.2. I've up-leveled my entire life. I couldn't imagine getting up at 4:00 am every day to be at the gym by 5:00 am long term. I've been doing it for an entire year now. And not waking up with a hangover is such a gift.. anything is possible.3. I'm in the best shape and health of my life. Even though I'm not where I would like to be with my weight, I'm stronger than I have ever been and reaching physical milestones I didn't think were possible.4. I've released 20 pounds and counting without 'dieting'. I watch what I eat, and choose foods that fuel me. Alcohol used to be a trigger for me to binge-eat crap. It lowered my inhibitions and left me feeling constantly bloated.5. I feel like I won the time lottery. I have so much time to do new things. I'm painting, reading, writing, and more present than I've ever been. Alcohol prevented me from being present. For me, it also frequently exacerbated the voice of my inner mean girl, which would pull me out of any situation and into my head.6. Improved self awareness... this has been both a blessing and a curse. I see a lot more of who I am now. I see some things that I didn't see before that I get to work on.7. Sleep is more nourishing.. I'm not tossing and turning all night. I wake up feeling well rested with a clear mind.8. No more acid reflux... went from taking prescription strength Prilosec twice a day to it being completely gone!9. My skin looks more hydrated. I used to have flaky, dry, splotchy skin.Here are some of the things I'm still working through... the tough parts of sobriety.1. With my anxiety, I tend to be socially awkward. Alcohol made it easier for me to interact in social situations. I'm working through this but it is a challenge. I'm finally at a point where I can sit at a bar and not want a drink. Yay for mocktails!2. I've never been a "sweets" person until I stopped drinking alcohol. Since I quit drinking, I have a sweet tooth at night that has taken me by surprise. I've been finding healthier snacks without sugar to help curb the cravings.I feel like I've cracked it. My life doesn't revolve around alcohol any longer.I can look in the mirror and feel so proud of myself.My whole life, until last year, I'd been a drinker.I thought it was just who I was and that it would be impossible to change.I feel like anything is possible now.2023 is the year I say yes to anything that scares the hell out of me. I'm participating in adventure races, physical competitions, writing a book, and going through Master Coach Certification with The Life Coach School all while doing what I love and helping some of the most inspiring women I've ever met finish their dissertations and achieve their dreams. I'm going to do a separate podcast episode on THAT… that 2023 is the year I say yes to anything that scares the HELL out of me. I'm just getting started... If you want some help or are sober curious, please join our private community the Get out of your damn way pod squad… I built a business around making women feel better… through creating self-confidence, through doing scary ass things, and through setting and accomplishing big goals. Come hang out with me! https://www.facebook.com/groups/getoutofyourdamnwaypodsquad

Thank you for joining us for our 2nd Cabral HouseCall of the weekend! I'm looking forward to sharing with you some of our community's questions that have come in over the past few weeks…   Anonymous: Hello… I've done the FM detox, followed by CBO and now on my 3rd month of CBO finisher… I have fibromyalgia and thought that my symptoms would subside but they didn't… I also still have arthritis pain in my fingers, and all other chronic pain that moves around in my body without any logic to it… I also still have a white coating on my tongue and vaginal thrush, sometimes it gets very itchy and smelly, I guess it depends on what time in the month it is depending on my period… I was following the protocols and diet (I eat quite healthy anyway)… Do you have any suggestions? Why am I not feeling better after? What to do now?   Kayla: Hi, I was wondering if you've ever helped anyone with Pinguecula. I've seen the eye doctor and they said there is nothing to get rid of it, just to wear glasses and use eye drops. I eat paleo, am on a prenatal, magnesium, probiotic, omegas, and workout regularly. I'm trying to heal menstrual problems right now, but other than that I am healthy. Any advice would be awesome! Thank you!   Andrea: Hi Dr. Cabral! I was hoping you could help me with this reaction my daughter is having every time she gets into a hot tub treated with bromine. Her skin breaks out in a rash that is similar to eczema. It is extremely painful, and itchy, and is all over her torso, back, arms, and legs. The rash persists for 4 to 6 weeks at a time, depending on the severity. This reaction only happens in hot tubs treated with bromine, not as much with chlorine. Have you ever seen this before? Would you recommend us do the heavy metals test, and maybe the stress and mood test for her thyroid? What else? Thank you in advance for answering this question.   Hope: I recently got diagnosed with hypothyroidism and osteoporosis. I took Prilosec for over 20 yrs. I hear from different MD's that gluten and dairy is a NO. My questions are: 1…is fermented milk ok?Like Kefir, yogurt? 2…is gluten di to the new GMO wheat? Are ancient grains ok to consume? 3..I also hear No to rice potatoes, oatmeal, and coconut oil. I consume these products regularly. Please, help me with this frustrating and confusing subject. Thanks.   Erin: This happens to me when i have been active a lot the day before…I wake up feeling puffy and swollen. I know I've consumed plenty of electrolytes that day before so what would Cause this? What can I do to prevent this? I really appreciate the input!   Thank you for tuning into this weekend's Cabral HouseCalls and be sure to check back tomorrow for our Mindset & Motivation Monday show to get your week started off right! - - - Show Notes and Resources: StephenCabral.com/2669 - - - Get a FREE Copy of Dr. Cabral's Book: The Rain Barrel Effect - - - Join the Community & Get Your Questions Answered: CabralSupportGroup.com - - - Dr. Cabral's Most Popular At-Home Lab Tests: > Complete Minerals & Metals Test (Test for mineral imbalances & heavy metal toxicity) - - - > Complete Candida, Metabolic & Vitamins Test (Test for 75 biomarkers including yeast & bacterial gut overgrowth, as well as vitamin levels) - - - > Complete Stress, Mood & Metabolism Test (Discover your complete thyroid, adrenal, hormone, vitamin D & insulin levels) - - - > Complete Food Sensitivity Test (Find out your hidden food sensitivities) - - - > Complete Omega-3 & Inflammation Test (Discover your levels of inflammation related to your omega-6 to omega-3 levels) - - - Get Your Question Answered On An Upcoming HouseCall: StephenCabral.com/askcabral - - - Would You Take 30 Seconds To Rate & Review The Cabral Concept? The best way to help me spread our mission of true natural health is to pass on the good word, and I read and appreciate every review!  

On this episode of "Two Fat Guys Eat", it's almost grilling season! We discuss our favorite types of backyard cookouts, from the best time of year to grill to drinks and sides. So lather up in sunscreen, grab your Prilosec and your "World's Sexiest Grandpa" apron, cause it's time to #Netflix&Grill! Also, Sean giggles uncontrollably at a beverage called Squirt. Our subject from this episode is various food, drink, and activities all done at cookouts, sorry no link this time. Show Theme: "Two Fat Guys Eat" by Derek Schiable - https://www.metrolabmusic.com

Episode 23:12 Why You Should Stop Taking Drugs For Reflux And Heartburn… And What To Do Instead Every day millions of Americans take a PPI drug - such as Prilosec, Prevacid, Protonix, Nexium - to help them deal with acid reflux (GERD), heartburn, chest pain and/or difficulty swallowing. Unfortunately many of these individuals ignore the warnings associated with these drugs... the warning informing them that they are not intended to be taken for more than two weeks at a time. As a result, they are putting themselves at risk for some serious side-effects such as kidney disease, broken bones and dementia. This has to stop… but how? That is, what can a person do to avoid taking these drugs? More importantly, what can a person do NATURALLY to help their digestive system improve to the point that they don't need a PPI drug? On this episode we lay out an exact plan. Specifically, we share four tactics anyone can employ to improve their digestion. In addition, we do something very few doctors will do: We discuss HOW a person develops acid reflux (GERD) and heartburn so they can better understand how to correct it. We also provide three very important questions a person should ask their doctor BEFORE ever taking a PPI drug. Please give this episode a good listen as you won't hear this information anywhere else. Then share this episode with a friend. Thanks! ———————- Want to learn more? Continue the conversation regarding this episode, and all future episodes, by signing up for our daily emails. Simply visit: GetHealthyAlabama.com  Once there, download the “Symptom Survey” and you will automatically added to our email list. ———————- Also, if you haven't already, we'd appreciate it if you'd subscribe to the podcast, leave a comment and give us a rating. (Thanks!!!) 

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Do you have acid reflux, or the more severe form known as gastroesophagealreflux disease? (GERD) This is one of the most common digestive conditionstreated by gastroenterologists and primary care doctors.The most commonly prescribed drugs for GERD are proton pump inhibitors(PPIs).  PPIs currently available on prescription in the USA are: dexlansoprazole(Dexilant), esomeprazole (Nexium), lansoprazole (Prevacid), omeprazole(Prilosec), pantoprazole (Protonix), and rabeprazole (Aciphex).These drugs suppress stomach acid secretion. They can be effective inreducing GERD but they are not recommended for long term use. The most common side effects are headache, diarrhea, nausea, and vomiting.

Download the cheat: https://bit.ly/50-meds  View the lesson:     Generic Name omeprazole Trade Name Prilosec Indication GERD, ulcers, Zollinger-Ellison syndrome, reduce the risk of GI bleed in critically ill patients, heart burn Action prevents the transport of H ions into the gastric lumen by binding to gastric parietal cells, ↓ gastric acid production Therapeutic Class antiulcer agent Pharmacologic Class proton-pump inhibitor Nursing Considerations • take 30-60 minutes prior to eating • capsules should be swallowed whole • instruct patient to report black tarry stool

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Around 20% of people in the Western world are afflicted by GERD or acid reflux. The go-to prescription in most of these cases are PPIs or proton pump inhibitors, one of the most prescribed medications in all of health care. The drawbacks of long-term PPI use are many and their use fails to address the root cause of GERD and other GI issues for which they're prescribed. Learn more about the causes and root cause treatment of GERD, ulcers, H pylori and gastritis and the drawbacks of long-term PPI use. Lindsey Parsons, your host, helps clients solve gut issues and reverse autoimmune disease naturally. Take her quiz to see which stool or functional medicine test will help you find out what's wrong. She's a Certified Health Coach at High Desert Health in Tucson, Arizona. She coaches clients locally and nationwide. You can also follow Lindsey on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram or Pinterest or reach her via email at lindsey@highdeserthealthcoaching.com to set up a free 30-minute Gut Healing Breakthrough Session. Show Notes

You know your body. You know when something isn't quite right. Your symptoms have a cause and you shouldn't accept comfortability. Join a conversation on recognizing discomfort and making a change with a certified nutritional practitioner and professional basketball player.  If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The support and lifestyle of women in professional basketball Starting before being the expertSpace and grace in the comparison game Your optimal health shouldn't be a dreamIdentifying and getting over our fear of failure. Episode References/Links:Flo By Alisa VittiIG @coachamyraeGuest Bio:Hello! I'm Amy, a retired professional athlete who was diagnosed with my 2nd autoimmune disorder in 2016. I went from playing professional basketball all over the world to battling professional fatigue and not recognizing myself in the mirror. From my rock bottom moment, I felt a nudge that told me there had to be a better way & I relied on my mindset built within my athletic career to pave the way to feeling like myself again--and even better! Currently, I'm certified as a Nutritional Therapy Practitioner (NTP), specializing in thyroid health, striving to support women in advocating for their health, getting their energy back, and feeling like themselves again  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Hey, Be It listener. What's up? Okay, so I just love, I love the way the world works. I love that how you can meet people and have conversations with people and learn something you never knew you'd have. And I don't think we do that enough. So if you are feeling stuck, if you are feeling alone, if you are feeling like uninspired. I want you to have a conversation with someone you don't know. I want you to ask them questions. So if you're like, "How do I do that? I'm so scared. I'm an introvert." Look at the local meetups, look at Eventbrite, look at like opportunities that are happening for a networking situation. And then you're gonna find someone who makes eye contact with you. And you're gonna smile at them. And then you're just going to ask them questions, you don't have to a... you don't have to say anything. You can just ask them questions like think 40 Old Virgin just like ask a question, if you don't know what to say ask a question. And the reason is, people do like to talk about themselves, but also going to learn something about somebody. And I think we underestimate how inspiring it can be to learn another person's story and what they're going through. And even if it maybe not inspiring, but maybe you feel seen, and feeling seen as something that we all truly, truly want. And so my next guest for you this week is Amy, Amy Denson, and I am really excited for you to hear her story. And I want you to listen to her story because maybe you don't have this story. Like maybe you weren't this like professional and NB like women's basketball player. I certainly wasn't. But as I listened to her story, I thought about my health story. And I thought about some of the health stories of people who have listened to the show and written in. And I truly think that a lot of times we think we're alone, and this is only happening to us. And I know for myself, when I started actually sharing my story about my stomach, I started of find out how many people had stomach issues. And I wish I had started talking about earlier, it was embarrassing. So I didn't want to but I wouldn't have felt alone. And so as you listen to today's interview, I really want you to hear her story and see yourself in it. And I, I really am excited for you to hear what she's up to, which is excited about next, how she got on this mission that she's on. And also, of course, you know, I love those BE IT action items that hers are really cool. And they're going to challenge you in the best ways. So after this message here, Amy.Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.All right, Be It listeners I have a very special special guest Amy Denson here. Amy has an incredible story, I've be... I'm really excited for you to hear it because I think it's really easy to think, "Well, it must be easy for them. But I've got these things going on or I have this setback or this obstacle." And we can kind of let those obstacles become just like a reason to not do something. And Amy is certainly not letting that happen. So, I'm excited for you to be inspired by her and hear how she did it. So Amy, tell everyone who you are and how you got here.Amy Denson 3:42  Well, thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to be here and to meet you. Um, so my story is, you know, it's all of ours probably could go on forever. But I grew up playing basketball and I always knew that in my heart. That was what I was supposed to do. And I you know, felt most in my skin and confident and as a pretty tall, broad shouldered, strong young woman who did not fit in in any other scene. Basketball was really home for me. I received a full ride scholarship to Arizona State University. We did some amazing things there. We created history there. We were the first team to make it into the Sweet 16 tournament of the NCAA tournament. (Lesley: Whoa! That's a insane journey.) Oh, yeah. So. Yeah, yes. And it was really cool because we had a really young team. So for the majority of my career, I got to play with the same people which is very, very special. (Lesley: That's incredible) Yeah, and then after I graduated, I just wasn't done and I signed with an agent and then I ended up playing overseas professionally for eight years. So I played in Puerto Rico for four seasons. I played in Australia for three years. I played in Poland, Romania and Spain. And so ...Lesley Logan 5:04  What a life? Like how (Amy: Yeah) cool. I so when we moved to Las Vegas there, I mean, LA had a WNBA team but I'm not going to downtown. So but the Las Vegas team is like (Amy: The Aces) ... Yeah, the Aces. (Amy: Yeah) It's a short stint down the street actually from (Amy: Yeah) where I live, like really close and my Dad and I would go we'd like, "Oh, hey, there's a game today. Let's go." And it was Brad came and it was so fun we get, we actually probably get the worst seats in the house. And most people think but like it's just the side of this of the of the basket. So it's like all the action is there the whole game (Amy: Yeah) and it's like, so fun. (Amy: That's so awesome.) Those women are amazing. I mean, (Amy: Yeah) as were you but like, it's kind of crazy. I don't think people realize that. (Amy: No) So many female basketball players spend most of their life playing for multiple teams at the same time and around the world. Like you're, they're not (Amy: Yeah) making NBA wages, which is really annoying.Amy Denson 5:53  No. And that's the thing. Yeah. And so really the WNBA I mean, it's, you know, still probably the best league in the world, but women make their money overseas. And so unless you know, do get some sponsorships here as well as your pay. You know, if you do have WNBA on your resume, you can make pretty decent money overseas and overseas is much different as far as like really even support wise for women. And I don't think that women, even young women in college, understand maybe they do more so now but when I was in college, how many opportunities there are to play at a next level? And yes, sometimes, I mean, there's just so many different options, maybe that just means you get paid, you know, a little bit extra, but you get your room and board and you know, a couple of meals, but you you're basically traveling for free, right, you're seeing the world for free. I was able to make a pretty decent wage. And I you know, really kind of moved up the ranks and played in some really amazing conferences against some really amazing athletes. And I think, you know, people may not like to, you know, I think put the women's game down quite a bit as far as pace and athleticism and all that kind of stuff. But I do think, I don't think people understand the amount of effort it takes to be professional edit anything. (Lesley: Yeah. No I don't think so.) Right. And then you add anything physical in there. And yeah, physical is a huge part of it. But the once you're at a professional level, it's the mental game, right? It's an emotional game. It's, it's a, you know, the battle to how do I, how do I beat my opponent? That's probably just as good or better than me, you know. SoLesley Logan 7:27  Right. That might, that you might end up being on the team with in another time.Amy Denson 7:32  Right. Yeah, so it was a beautiful experience. I actually, I really miss traveling, like to my core right now. I just I lived out of a suitcase and had a laptop for eight years. And it just was the most amazing experience. It was hard. And it was isolating at times, especially (Lesley: Yeah) with language barriers, but I got to get paid and travel in my gift for my gift. And so I was so blessed because I got to live out my first dream. (Lesley: Yeah.) And I don't know how many people can really, you know, say that when, as you're growing up, and it's just something that I always knew that I was going to do. And it was, there was no doubt or question in my mind.Lesley Logan 8:12  Yeah, I think that thank you for saying that. Because I do think a lot of people make sacrifices or they think, "Okay, I went to college, and I gotta do this, I gotta go be a grown up." And like, you know, you are one of the few people who's like, "You know, I'm gonna keep doing my passion." And, and yeah, it's not making you the money that's going to like, put a house on the ground or anything like that. But it did allow you to see the world and experience the highs and the lows from that. And so, you know, I cut you off in your story. Like, what made you leave? Did you just like injure out? Did you age out? Did you get (Amy: Yeah) tired of what was that? What was the next step?Amy Denson 8:47  I don't know why, but I always had it in my mind that I would probably retire by around age 30. And I was really, I was just kind of burnt out. I was really tired. I'd been playing year around for a long time. I just needed a break more so emotionally and mentally. And I also was getting into a serious relationship with my best friend who is my now my husband. And I just felt in my heart. It was time. (Lesley: Yeah.) And so when I came back to the United States, it was it was so hard because I hadn't lived here for eight years. I couldn't get a job. Nobody would look at my professional history as a job. So it looks like to them I had gra... unless they had a sports background. Like I'd graduated college and then I just showed back up when I was you know 30. (Lesley: That's so interesting.) Yeah, it was just ...Lesley Logan 9:45  I never would have thought about that. Like it would be so it's like your resume like doesn't start and so they're like, you have no experience except for that you (Amy: Right) like so much experience like what it takes to be (Amy: Right) on a team, what it takes to win a game like you know, like you're right unless they know sports, they don't see a talent, skill set there.Amy Denson 10:00  Yeah. And so there was like a major, major identity crisis. You know, I didn't really understand or know how to introduce myself without saying, "Hi, Amy, I'm played professional basketball." It was it was just everything, you know, it was my pride, it was my joy, it was everything. And so to now really kind of step back and, and not only not be acknowledged for that effort, but really have to start over not only like career wise, but for my for myself, like, who am I without basketball, (Lesley: Yeah) which was very hard, and I knew it was going to be hard to retire. But it did not know how hard it was gonna be. I didn't know, I didn't realize the grieving process I would have. (Lesley: Yeah.) And so I just kind of floated around, I got my personal training and certification so that well, this is obviously the next thing. I still want to be active. You know, I didn't know what to do. And ...Lesley Logan 10:52  But you know, what all I see is like, of course, like, who wouldn't want to train with like, I mean ...Amy Denson 10:56  Yeah, why not? I want to work out. Let's work out together, you know.Lesley Logan 10:59  Yeah. Who would want to train with a WNBA player or a women's (Amy: Yeah) basketball player? Like, I like that would be a great calling card. (Lesley laughs) (Amy: Yeah, exactly.) I mean, you'd have to want to do it. So how, so you went and got your training? (Amy: Yeah) And how did that go?Amy Denson 11:11  It went okay. It was just, it was just a hard time, it was a really hard time, it was a rough transition for a couple years, I ended up landing in a college coaching position for a small division one at college in Oregon. And I thought, "Well, duh, this is what I'm supposed to do, hello." And I actually, I loved it, I really think that it could have been a really good path for me, it's just again, for women's basketball, the money is nothing, which is not everything, but we've got to live (Lesley: We got a paying bills. Yeah) We gotta pay. And it's just, you know, it just, I wasn't in a very good working environment as far as with the other adults, unfortunately. And this is when I started to really experience some symptoms that I wasn't used to. So I only knew how to work out one way. If I was dealing with anything stress wise, you know, lifewise, for me working out with, you know, it's a much as a mental and emotional release as it is a physical, so I only knew how to work out one way, which is like, balls to the wall. Like, if you're not close to puking, and you push through the wall, all of these things that we had, like we did to (Lesley: Yeah) stay in shape, right. But I noticed like it wasn't really quote unquote, "working" like it used to, I noticed, like I was just so fatigued, I was really, really high stressed. I just felt like, emotionally a little out of control. And (Lesley: Yeah) I wasn't sure I don't know how to describe that I just did not feel like myself. And ...Lesley Logan 12:45  And I can resonate with that though, Amy because it's like, a you like you're already in a transition of some kind anyways, like your life as you knew it has changed. And you're, it's not like it was like easy to step back into the world. And so then you're like trying different careers out. And then also the way you train isn't working the way it used to. And also like, our bodies are getting older, like there is this weird thing because I was an athlete too. And then like, you hit 30 and you're like, "Wow, I can't do two a days anymore. Should I be doing two a days?" (Amy: Right) But like, I also don't know a different way. (Amy: Right) So, (Amy: Yeah) you know, you're kind of going, like, in, in your health and your workouts in every part of your life. Everything is different and out of control. So of course you're gonna feel stressed. (Amy: Yeah) And all these things, and it's hard to articulate when you're in it.Amy Denson 13:31  Absolutely. And so I started to go to a couple doctors for some help. And, you know, just kept getting the all, "Eat less and workout more," duh. (Lesley laughs) Cool. (Lesley: Okay thanks.) I just really felt like in my experience. You know, after seeing multiple doctors, I started to lose my hair. I started my hair was thinning. I just noticed all of these things. And I was like, "My God I just ..." I just feel off, right? I just feel off. I went I was just you know, as we do, I was like on Google and this and that. So I I read that a dermatologist could help with hair. So I went to a dermatologist who told me I was prematurely balding at 33 and I was like, "Are you sure? Like is like really?" And so I ended up going to an endocrinologist who one of the top and in the field for Oregon. And I had gone to the ER because I had I have nosebleeds or I had nosebleeds that I couldn't get stopped. So I had to go to the ER. And when I leaned back for them to, to basically cauterize my nose, I have two huge nodules on my neck and the guy was like, "Have you gotten those checked out?" And I said, "No, I didn't even know that they were there." So I went to this endocrinologist. We did an ultrasound and she's like, "Yep, you've got Hashimotos." And I was like, "Okay, what, what's Hashimotos?" And she's like, "Well, it's an autoimmune disorder where your body is attacking your thyroid tissue" because it thinks that there's a foreign invader, something's going on. I'm like, "Okay, well, does this explain, you know." Because a lot of times Hashimotos and hypothyroidism go hand in hand. "So does this explain me having cold hands and feet?" So poor circulation? "Does this explain me losing hair? Does this explain me gaining weight specifically around my midsection? Does this explain me feeling like I'm losing my GD mind?" She said, "Yeah." And I'm like, "Oh my gosh, great. So like, what do we do about it?" She goes, "Nothing. (Lesley: No) We wait, we wait until your body attacks your thyroid so much that it doesn't work anymore. And then we will start hormones."Lesley Logan 15:31  That is not an option. That is, so you just have to suffer?Amy Denson 15:34  And I think, I think it's really interesting because, you know, the way that I was raised to is like, well, she obviously knows more than me, right? Because she's a doctor. (Lesley: Yeah.) And so I walked away from that feeling, obviously very defeated. And also, the way that I approach things as an athlete is like, I'm going to control it as much as I possibly can. So what can I do? What can I do? Not knowing the things that I was doing, were probably escalating it. (Lesley: Yeah) Um, and so it was about two years later that I, we had some people over for Memorial Day, and I got incredibly sick. And I literally remember, like shutting the door that like saying our goodbyes, and as soon as I shut the door, I just started crying. And I just said, "I can't live the rest of my life like this. Something is wrong, something is off. And I need help." (Lesley: Yeah) And from that day forward, that has been my mission. And now that I have more information, because Hashimotos is my actual life, my second autoimmune disorder. And with thyroid related disorders, illnesses, whatever, it's so common, and there's just so much that goes into it. And a lot of it kind of goes against the grain of like our diet culture, workout culture, and all of that. So there's so much mental and emotional stuff that's tied up into that, you know, the two a days or the, you know, anyway, working out, eating less all of that. So, once I kind of started on my own health journey, I've now made it my mission to help other women not feel alone, and really to feel like themselves again, because I really think the biggest thing that's missing right now, in like, our standard medical care system is that we're just there's no empathy. I don't think we're even being heard. (Lesley: Yeah.) And of course, you know, I think a lot of times, which is okay, I'm not saying anything is wrong with medication, but I do think we have to also be aware of everything else that goes into the healing process, besides support for medication. (Lesley: Yeah) I have absolutely nothing against it, if it if it helps people, I am on it. But that's not the only thing that we can't just pop a pill and it be okay, we can't just pop a pill and not address our stress levels.Lesley Logan 17:58  You're... (Amy: You know) that's just it and like, I think, you know, some... one of my, my previous assistant was amazing. And she actually teaches people on how to be their own health advocate, or how to be an advocate for others. (Amy: Yes.) And I think we all like I'm sure, maybe generations younger than us, maybe they they are wise and all knowing that the doctors ... (Amy: Probably, they probably. Yeah) they're they come out knowing that no one knows what they're doing. (Amy: Yes) We, I grew up like the doctor knows they knew everything. (Amy: Well, yeah.) They went to school. They're the most educated person. (Amy: Absolutely.) And I had similar, like health issues where like, they literally like, "Well, you have IBS, so just, you know, eat like this, don't eat these things." I mean, those are very nutritional things. I think I'm probably supposed to eat those. You know, and I wasn't my own advocate, I probably wouldn't, I probably be dead right now, to be honest, because I was just like, suffering so much. And it was I my nutritional levels were so bad that I like had no B 12, no vitamin D, all these things. I think I would probably be divorced. And, and (Amy: Yeah) and a shell of a human. So I want to go back to something though, because you've made it this mission to like really help women who are going through this? Because you're going through this, I think the question is like, how do, how, what were the first steps or what the steps that you took to help other women go through something that you yourself, were still learning? Because I do think a lot of listeners get stuck in that they're like, "Well, I'm not the expert yet. So I can't do the thing that I'm feeling called to do." And you were like, "I'm being called do this." How did you do that? How did you kind of wrap your (Amy: Yeah) head around that?Amy Denson 19:32  Well, I think you know, it really started with obviously my own, getting my own ish together, and I don't have it together. But I do have a lot of knowledge around it. I do have a lot of knowledge around what works for me and what doesn't, which I feel like provides a lot of I don't know security, or when we feel out of control and we don't know what's causing what. It's like we just go down this rabbit hole of symptoms or what did I eat? What did I not eat? How did they move? What did I do different here? And that's all I used to do. And it was just so time consuming and energy sucking and defeating. So I think really, for me, the first step was, if anybody is out there, find some a doctor of some sort that's going to support you and has experience in whatever if you do know your diagnosis or don't know, I found a naturopath that it like changed my life, and I'm still with her today. I think that's your first step. I think me going on my own health journey, and then feeling a little bit better, always helps to like feel like I have capacity to help other people. (Lesley: Yeah) And I really think that the health journey is all it is, is a trial and error, I think we get so stuck in doing the right and wrong things. That it just, it's just like destabilizes us. And it's just trying this, see how this works. How does your body feel in this? Hey, if it doesn't feel good here, let's, let's tweak it and try try this and like just keep continuing to do that along the way with the intention of healing your body or with the intention of supporting your journey supporting your body in that. I think we just we've got to be a little bit more flexible in our thinking, and what we are willing to try it and not try or you know, really not get stuck and what diet worked for for your best friend. And it's not working for you now. I think we really get stuck in food specifically. (Lesley: Yeah.) Where I think that we don't always need to be, we don't need to always label how we eat as a diet. It's just how we eat. (Lesley: Yeah.) You don't need to be in a specific lane all the time. And I think that so, (Lesley: Yeah.) I would just say just being a couple steps ahead. Those couple steps make a really big difference for somebody else. And I (Lesley: Yeah.) always tell myself, "If I could help this person feel 10% better? How would their life improve?" Because when I was at my rock bottom, when I shut that door and said goodbye and started crying, I would have given anything to feel a little bit better. Or I would have given anything to have a little bit more knowledge around, "What the hell is going on with my body?"Lesley Logan 22:13  Yeah, um, I thank you for sharing that because I do I do believe like, people think that they have to be 15 steps ahead, the people that they're going to help. And it's like, you just have to be a couple steps ahead. Like, you know, because 15 steps ahead is like, you know, I know like, well, look like, well let's just talk about we're on a podcast, you're listening to this. Some of the people I look up to have like, a thousand episodes. I'm like, "That is overwhelming. That is like, yes, it's yes, inspiring. Yes, it's showing me the what's possible." But also like to think of it from, I don't know what episode this is going to be while we're recording it, but it's at least 100 and I don't know, eight. And, (Amy: Ah, that'a awesome.) you know, and so that that feels like a big gap. But I was just talking to somebody yesterday who has 300 episodes, and he was giving me some tips. And those felt very doable. He's only a few steps ahead of me, right. So I love that you share that. And I also think it's like not to underestimate like the power that you can help someone even if it's a couple percentage, you know, a little bit, (Amy: Yeah) and then you're because you're working on yourself, you're getting a couple more steps ahead. And so you're bringing (Amy: Right) everybody with you. (Amy: Right.) So thank you for sharing that. And I also think, you know, and I don't know, you'll have to tell me how long was for you. But I don't think a lot of people give the things that they're trying out enough time. (Amy: Absolutely not.) You know, like, Jenn Pike has been on our podcast before. She says, "When it comes to your hormones, it's 100 days. So the things we're doing, you're like, you don't get to even tell me anything for 100 days, like maybe you're gonna feel better right away. But the reality is, is like, it's going to take some time because the you know, like, the stuff we did has already affected what's happening right now."Amy Denson 23:51  Right? You know, it's taken us, you know, for a lot of clients or people that are around me, or that I work with, it's probably, you know, mid 30s, 40s. It's taken, we've been through a lot of shit by now. It's taken us a while to get here. And I don't think we realize just like you said, our habits and actions and everything. It's all led up to this. So in, you know, thinking back, we didn't necessarily get away with eating and drinking and moving a certain way. It's just where we've kind of caught up to this moment. And in this moment, and so, yeah, in our 20s we I feel like we're always in this comparison mode, but you have a family now, we have responsibilities. It looks different now, you know, our stress level is so incredibly high. And we keep addressing everything as, well, it's not mean it's not too high. It's probably normal, right? No, it's absolutely not and we don't realize that, all of that that how that is affecting our health. And even you know, my clients I work with 1 on 1, 6 months is probably the baseline. And that's just getting started. And I think that people feel like at the beginning at the starting line, like six months, like, "Oh my gosh, that's so long." But we're talking about the rest of your life. Six months is nothing and, and I'm not trying to, like, (Lesley: It's like, diminish or...) If you feel bad. Yeah, it make you feel bad, but like, we're just getting started. (Lesley: Oh, yeah.) We're just getting started this and I think that we just have this, you know, I think getting ready for a wedding or getting ready for a vacation or whatever, there's always a start and an end and a start and end, which is creating this yo yo dieting, culture mindset. And it literally like indicates it like as a, our blood pressure's going up and down, up and down, up and down, which is so hard on our body, we've got to instill some consistency within our, our health, within our life. And that comes with time, we never give anything enough time. And if we would just do really tiny things like tiny steps, and did them consistently for 90 days, for 100 days, for six months, for a year, we we discredit the amount of momentum we could build by (Lesley: Yeah) just doing small things, we think we have to start the diet on Monday, we think we have to, you know, start working out five days a week, no excuses, all of this kind of language, which yes, it worked for us at one time, and I was a part of all of that. But if we are going to be sustainable over a life, and you are dealing with health issues, and you have stress in your life, and and and you're a woman, (Lesley: Right) we have to, we have to find a different way.Lesley Logan 26:53  There has been a lot, there's like space and grace, it's like, I think you men... you mentioned it before, like there's comparison in there, we're comparing ourselves to like other people, even our own age, and it's like, like, specifically specifically for you, you have two autoimmune diseases, you said, just like two up two that's a lot. Like one's a lot. Two is different, right? So you can't compare yourself to somebody that have any, just like, I can't compare myself to somebody who never who never had an injury or never like, and I think we're wasting a lot of time there. We're also not giving ourselves credit for what we did do to get here. (Amy: Right. Absolutely.) And, and, you know, you said earlier, like six months sounds like a long time. But like, I dealt with some issues for 10 years, 10 years. And so I can say now that I am like, six years post, like actually got the diagnosis actually figured the thing. Now when I have a flare up, I'm like, "Oh, I know exactly what the trigger is." (Amy: Yes.) I'm stressed out. I'm stressed out and I am not being kind to my body. I need to bring everything all the (Amy: Yeah) cortisol down where and you know, I am I ended up even using this tracking app for my cycle, because I filmed for workout. So I'm there are some weeks where I'm filming 14 workouts, which in the grand scheme of things, it's like an hour of workout. So I so I, it's like the workout for the day, right? But I should not be doing that one of the weeks of everyone, that week, (Amy: Yeah) I should not be doing that I should be like, "Okay, I can go for my walk" I can do you know, like run, but I'm not going to like push myself, that needs to be low impact really kind in my body, stretchy stuff. And so when they changed once I had that information, I changed when I was working when I was filming, my inflammation and my stomach issues also went down. And so (Amy: Yeah) it's this thing that like we sometimes we take things like that's just how it is. And other times we think like, (Amy: Right) "Oh, that's too long, I don't have that kind of time." But to your credits, like once you have the information you start to have the healing process, then you have your whole life ahead of you and like that's gonna be a lot longer than the six months of like, (Amy: Yeah) having to trial and error and figure things out.Amy Denson 28:56  Yeah, I think there's just so much reassurance and, and really getting to know your body. And I you know, I think we talk so much about things that are common, but they're not normal. So your body is talking to you all the time. And we've got to start listening. We have to, we cannot push it aside and just keep pushing forward. I'll sleep later all, I'll put myself first later right or when when this ends, then you know when summer starts, whatever that is, because if you are having awful periods, your body's screaming at you. If you are having bloating, gassing, women if you are not pooping every day, your body is telling you something. So so many things that I think that you know, for a long time I just thought well, my cramps feeling awful for for the first day or two my period or the week up to, it's just how my mom experienced it. That's just how it is for me. Absolutely not. We are not meant to feel in this comfort most of our life. (Lesley: Right.) And so I think really starting to listen to your body and that is the information that we can work with.Lesley Logan 30:09  So can we talk about that? Because I think that that is a really important thing that some people like, "Now I like, I listen to my body." And then there's the perfectionist and overachievers listen to like, "But wait. Like, what does that mean? How do I do that?" So you mentioned, we gonna poop everyday ladies. You also mentioned like, serious cramps, like, yeah, people like, "Oh, I have PCOS or I have this." It's like, yeah, but even people with that don't have to have the worst cramps, there (Amy: Right) are still things you can do. So, (Amy: Absolutely) you know, because I used to have a friend, I had a friend of my practice, I remember, she was only going to the bathroom once every two weeks. And she was (Amy: Right) going to the doctor for this. And the doctor was like, "You just have a really lazy colon." And she's like, "I got that, you didn't, I don't need your medical opinion for that." She's like, I (Amy: Right) she did not have a lazy colon, though (Lesley laughs) (Amy: Right) like rolling faster.Amy Denson 30:56  My colon is not inherently lazy. It's not a choice. It's not on the couch watching Netflix like what do we need to do here?Lesley Logan 31:02  Yeah. So what are some others like, what are some? It maybe they're not easy, but what are some ways that people could listen to their body? Do they journal? Like, is there an app? Like what tool did you use to start listening to your body and paying attention to signs?Amy Denson 31:16  Um, I think my I mean, my awareness is pretty high. I've been listening to my body for a while, as an athlete, I had to, to make sure we're good to go, you know, all of that. But I mean, I think journaling is is a great form. I think really listening to podcasts, listening or books information. Alisa Vitti has a great book in the flow about women's cycle, about even like you were saying, how do you, how can we move within our cycle to really support our cycle? How can I eat within my cycle to really support my cycle? So I think if you're experiencing any discomfort, I would just note that or even imagine like, if, if I imagined my health is like, optimal, though, you know, I imagined myself like, walking through a beautiful field and, you know, the sun shining, and I just feel my absolute best. What does that look like? It does that look like I don't have heartburn anymore? Does that look like I don't have awful periods? Does that look like you know, my hair isn't thinning? Does that look like I don't feel cold all the time? Or I feel like I'm in control of my body. And I'm not just gaining weight all of a sudden, I don't know why? You know, what is that, what is that perfect ish health look like for you? And what symptoms are you experiencing that you would like to either reduce or eliminate?Lesley Logan 32:54  Yeah, I like that, I think because that's like, that allows every single listener to choose it for themselves. And you're not comparing my loves because that's not going to get you, (Amy: No, no, no.) you can't like everyone's going to have something that's a different optimal health. But I do think that like, you know, like, so if you're listening to this, if you heard any symptoms that she mentioned there, you're like, "Oh, the I have heartburn." Like, you don't have to have heartburn. And you don't have to take the Prilosec or whatever it's called to like, get rid of it every time you eat. Like, there are things you know, and holistic doctors, like I love mine. She's she's been on the (Amy: Right) podcast before and like, there's things I'm like, "Oh, I just live with this." And she's like, "No, you don't, actually."Amy Denson 33:34  Not necessary. (Lesley laughs) And it's just it's just really, it's about what can we do in specifically with heartburn, your body is just telling you, there is a need for some functional support there. We are, you know, and so what can we do to get your body to start performing digestively a little bit more optimally, so that we are not only reducing you taking any like, you know, Prilosec or PPI or anything like that. But we want to reduce the heartburn because it's just an indication that your body is not properly digesting, which (Lesley: Yeah) is everything. (Lesley: Right and that's all your nutrition and all the things. Yeah.) Yeah, just another, it's just another symptom. It's just another way of your body's saying and it. You know, there's no shame around our symptoms. (Lesley: Yeah.) And I think we really need to step away, step back from that. Even weight gain, that's a symptom of something. Right? Weight loss is a symptom of something. So let's figure it out. And you know, I don't think, you know, a lot of time we keep going back to, "Well, I ate this, I didn't eat that. I can't eat this because this causes that." It's a matter of function and really supporting that, rather than having to pick out which foods that you can and can't eat for the rest of your life. (Lesley: Yeah) We really need to get down to the root of what's going on and just say, "Hey, this is what I'm experiencing. I'd like some relief in these areas or more knowledge around these areas. And let's make a plan to move forward." But because you're experiencing something, you are not doing anything wrong. We just need to get more knowledge around what the heck is going on. And I understand that there is hope for some relief. And for a long time, I didn't feel like I had a lot of hope it was something that I had to deal with. (Lesley: Yeah) And so I would get so hard on myself for doing this or doing that, and then my symptoms would pop up, or symptoms would pop up. (Lesley: Yeah) And I felt like I would personally attack myself for, for doing this and that. So let's, let's try to take that off of there as well. And just look at it as information. And that can direct us on where we need to go.Lesley Logan 35:50  That's... Yes, all the yeses, because I, you know, I was like you're talking, I was thinking like, so many of these listeners are moms and 100% if their kid was saying something hurt or burned, or they're tired, they would be like figuring out all the things (Amy: Yeah) that would go on to make sure that that was not there. But when it comes to our own bodies, we excuse it away, or "Oh, it's just because I ate that," or "Oh, I shouldn't have ate that. And I know I shouldn't eat that." And that's why it was it's like we're not taking the same care to to make sure that our bodies which are the vessels that you need to continue to be the parent to your the person you love for as long as you can as seriously and I think like we that, that we all could bit change that. And also, I hear you saying a lot of things like being kind. I mean, really kind of yourself because your body's just trying to tell you something, and it's not like you did anything and you're wrong. And I love what you said about the symptoms like think it's amazing. So currently, Amy, before we wrap this up, what are you? Right now, is there anything that you are being it till you see it like? Are you taking new steps, new leaps? Like how are you, how is this mission going for you? And what are you doing that maybe you've never done before but you're working on figuring it out?Amy Denson 37:04  Yeah. Well, I mean, I literally just yesterday found out I finished my restorative wellness practitioner certification. You guys, I can test poop now. And I'm so excited. (Lesley laughs) I know not many people would be like, "What are you talking about?" And I actually I have nothing to do with it. But so ...Lesley Logan 37:25  You can ask, you can get the test for the, (Amy: I can now...) people to send the poop to the place. (Amy: Yes) Yes.Amy Denson 37:29  So I can now offer it's called the GI-MAP. And I can now offer an MRT, which is not a food sensitivities test, it's a test to see what foods are causing inflammation in your body, which is really what we want to get that inflammation down. So with that GI-MAP, we can, we can see the good bacteria, the not so good bacteria, we can see information, we can see auto immune activity. And we can we can really pair that with that MRT test so that we can have a plan to see, "Hey, this is what's going on inside of your gut. Everybody wants to talk about gut health. Well, let's look inside your dang, gut." And this really, really will help with them. I mean, everything lives in our gut. It's our second brain. It has a ton to do with our thyroid functioning, our you know, HPA axis, all of that. So I, I I am pursuing a deep dive into really finding out what's going on for people. So we can try to get to some root causes and really see where we need to support overall function and digestively to (Lesley: So cool.) and I think that that'll just be kind of a waterfall effect for most people's symptoms. So I am so excited. I think this is going to be a game changer.Lesley Logan 38:41  I cannot (Amy: ... feeling) I cannot even wait for my husband to listen to this. And he (Amy: Yeah) like, he'll be like, "All of a sudden it's like all this stuff and health. It's great and be kind. And it's like I'm excited because we can test poop now." Like he'll laughs so hard.Amy Denson 38:54  Yeah, absolutely.Lesley Logan 38:55  Oh my gosh, this is amazing, Amy. I'm really excited for our listeners to hear this and I can't wait to hear how they take away but before we let you go we have to hear your BE IT action items after this brief message.Okay, Amy, how can people find you, follow you, get to know you more?Amy Denson 39:14  Sure. I'm on Instagram at @coachamyrae and you can email me at amyraenutrition@gmail.com The website is getting a beautiful reboost which will be done in a couple of weeks. And yeah and then I also have a podcast as well called The Chronic Athletes and really just featuring stories of resilience inspiration and all things wellness just to you know show proof that it can be done in exactly what you're doing as well. SoLesley Logan 39:44  Oh, I love that so much. Okay, well that's cool because we definitely have some some athletes that are listening and also I had a girl on I'll have to connect you, I have to look it up. She actually was a D1 athlete as well. And then she wrote a book on like, how do you like go into life ...Amy Denson 40:01  Oh my gosh, that's so needed. The transition is so yep, (Lesley: Yeah) that's so cool.Lesley Logan 40:04  I'll I'll, I'll find (Amy: Oh great) her episode and I'll connect you two because like, yeah, it's amazing. (Amy: Thank you.) So okay, before we let you go, bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Amy Denson 40:17  Yeah, you know, I was thinking about this and I just listened to, to a message the other day. And I think, really identifying and getting over our fear of failure. And I think really just going, just going after it, right, whether it's your health, whether it's your career, whether it's your family, whether it's just getting to know yourself, and understanding that if we are in pursuit of something with intention, there, there really is no failure, right, there's only going to be maybe learning lessons along the way. But if we're not ever pursuing anything, obviously, we're not going to be growing. But I think the pursuit is something is really what starts open more doors in your life, it starts to create that momentum. And I think if we can look at it as more of an opportunity in our pursuit, rather than the lens of failure of something, and really focus on the process, rather than the outcome, right. So a lot of people come with the goal is weight loss, which is great. But what else can we get out of the process? (Lesley: Yeah) What else can we get out of, of you taking that step forward for yourself and your health? Just just, you know, in that pursuit of intention, so I think really letting go of that, that lens of fear of failure, (Lesley: Yeah) and pursuing everything with with that lens of opportunity.Lesley Logan 41:49  Oh, I love this. I love those so much. Thank you. That another amazing and unique and I love them. Y'all, how are you use these tips in your life? Co... you're gonna tag @coachamyrae and the @be_it_pod and let us know. Post this on your socials, so we can see your takeaways, so we can shout you out, so we can share it. So we can also just see what you're up to and also what's resonating. If you're like, "I don't know how to do that." Then text this message, send this podcast to a friend. And that is not only how we get Amy's message, it's also how podcasts get heard. And the you have no idea how every single download matters. So every single one of you listen to this, it really does matter to all of us because we can't do this without you. So we want to know how you're using this in your life. Tag us both. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day!'Be It Till You See It' is a production of 'As The Crows Fly Media'.Brad Crowell 43:09  It's written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Our Associate Producer is Amanda Frattarelli.Lesley Logan 43:20  Kevin Perez at Disenyo handles all of our audio editing.Brad Crowell 43:25  Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 43:33  Special thanks to our designer Jaira Mandal for creating all of our visuals (which you can't see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all video each week so you can.Brad Crowell 43:45  And to Angelina Herico for transcribing each of our episodes so you can find them on our website. 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Most medications people take on the regular have a nutrient that it interacts with.  Why is this important?  Zantac or Prilosec could eventually make you feel super tired and run down? How? Iron needs an acidic enivironment to be absorbed and without that stomach acid, low iron absorption can lead to anemia. Anemia leaves you feeling run down.  Anemia can negatively impact the thyroid hormone and their conversion. In today's episode, I'm sharing a few other common medications and the nutrients that are affected (plus how it can impact your body).  Join me, Nicole Eichinger, in another episode of the Nutrition's My Life Podcast. 

Reflux from the stomach and esophagus is a problem for over 20% of the US population.  Today there's no reason for it.  Drugs like Prilosec and TUMS don't cure it - they prolong it.  There's only one answer: Enzymes and clean diet.    Only 2 weeks for most people.  The only way it fails is if you don't follow directions.  Here's a summary of how it all works.   Please subscribe and share.From the videos at thedoctorwithin.com/videosThe complete story at.  Enzymes: The Key To LongevityDr Tim O'Shea

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ua5sbns7mq0uthw/NCHS058%20-%20Does%20Lemon%20Juice%20Help%20with%20Acid%20Reflux_.pdf?dl=0 (Click here) to download the full transcription as a formatted PDF. Episode SummaryWelcome to The No Cap Health Show, a weekly podcast where Dr. Brian Boxer Wachler useshis decades of experience in medicine and ability as an expert researcher to provide a light-hearted approach and share health trends popular on TikTok. In this episode, Dr. Brian provideshis Cap/No Cap analysis on today's topic: Does Lemon Juice Help with Acid Reflux? What causes acid reflux? What are some common treatments of acid reflux? What foods canyou enjoy and which ones should you avoid? Find out in today's episode! If you're enjoying the show, we'd love it if you leave the show a Rating & Review at https://my.captivate.fm/RateThisPodcast.com/NoCap. (RateThisPodcast.com/NoCap.) Key Takeaways01:11 – Dr. Brian introduces today's topic: Does Lemon Juice Help with Acid Reflux? 03:39 – Benefits of drinking water with a little bit of lemon 04:56 – Other treatments for acid reflux 05:58 – Foods to avoid 06:38 – How does sleep impact acid reflux? 07:24 – Dr. Brian provides the Cap/No Cap Recap of today's episode, teases next week's topic, and reminds listeners to Rate and Review this podcast on https://ratethispodcast.com/NoCap (RateThisPodcast.com/NoCap). Tweetable Quotes“We've seen lots of those videos on TikTok and Instagram where people are brushing withlemon juice or eating lemons to try to get whiter teeth. The risk of that is that, when you putsomething so acidic in your mouth - which lemons are - it can actually break down the enamelon your teeth.”(02:48) (Dr. Brian) “The key is not to just drink a big glass of lemon juice. That's like acid overload. So, never dothat. But a little bit - a teaspoon - in a glass of water and that is the way this can help.”(04:09)(Dr. Brian) “Sometimes I will take Prilosec, which is a very common over-the-counter blocker that blocksthe acid-producing system in the stomach. And that can help with acid reflux as well.”(05:33)(Dr. Brian) “There are some foods to consider if you're having acid reflux like coffee, things with caffeine or chocolate. Sometimes those can make acid reflux worse. And, especially spicy food.” (05:58) (Dr. Brian) Resources MentionedDM Dr. Brian your questions and we will respond back with answers - https://v.cameo.com/F5MH0Hglnmb (https://v.cameo.com/F5MH0Hglnmb) https://www.boxerwachler.com/ (Dr. Brian's Website) https://www.tiktok.com/@brianboxerwachlermd? (Dr. Brian's TikTok) https://www.instagram.com/drboxerwachler/ (Dr. Brian's Instagram) Please remember, Dr. Brian is a doctor, but he is not your doctor. He is here to provide general information, not medical advice, so you should always check with your doctor before relying on any information. Podcast Production & Marketing provided by FullCast Copyright. Advanced Vision Education, LLC See https://omnystudio.com/listener (omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.

In March, the Senate approved the Sunshine Protection Act - which, if passed, will make daylight savings time permanent. The bill has been praised by many, but Mariana Szklo-Coxe says not so fast. She studies how permanent daylight savings time will affect our sleep. Plus: Postpartum depression is one of the leading complications of childbirth, but most mothers are never screened for it. Jennifer Payne conducted a worldwide study and found that first time moms, young moms, and moms with twins have the highest rates of postpartum depression. Later in the show: Chemotherapy is the best weapon we have at fighting cancer. But it's notoriously hard on the body and causes a number of side-effects. Maxwell Hennings studies chemo brain, a mysterious ailment linked to cognitive decline in some patients who have undergone chemotherapy. And: Many people are prescribed drugs like Prilosec and Prevacid to treat their heartburn symptoms. But what if those same drugs could fight cancer? Randall Reif says these heartburn drugs could have the potential to revolutionize the way we treat certain cancers.

Equine Gastric Ulcer Syndrome, or EGUS, is being treated in more horses today than almost any other disease considered "routine." The advent of visualizing the stomach lining using a fiber-optic endoscope is now available to nearly every horse owner through their local veterinarian. In addition, medicines are available to treat horses suffering from this condition, and they are effective. Nutritional changes are a basis for improving horses' health. Still, few have associated a specific nutritional change in concomitant use with prescribed medication to enhance the effectiveness of using the medicine alone. In this podcast, I discuss a study where horses with EGUS are treated with omeprazole (Prilosec in humans and GastroGuard in horses) alone or with porcine hydrolyzed collagen. Adding the collagen protein had a local effect in reducing the number of gastric ulcers in the non-glandular portion of the stomach. I add that the benefit of collagen is the amino acid glycine which is beneficial to maintaining all connective tissue, including the lining of the gastrointestinal tract. I hypothesize that preventing gastric ulcers (and ulcers in other parts of the gut) may be another benefit of the addition of high-quality protein to horse's diets.

In This Episode, You Will Learn: Testing I have my patients do when they are having stomach issues. What causes low stomach acid, and its symptoms Foods to avoid when having stomach and digestion issues Resources + Links:   Shoot us an email at info@docjacque.com Or call the office 412-828-6000   Follow Doc Jacque on Instagram | @doc_jacque Subscribe to our YouTube Channel | Doc Jacque    Schedule a Full Immersion New Patient Consultation with Doc Jacque Schedule your 15 Minute FREE Consultation   Check out the Supplement Shop   Find more resources on our website | https://www.docjacque.com/ Show Notes: If you struggle with acid reflux or digestion issues, trust me when I say I GET YOU! Growing up I distinctly remember taking those little purple Prilosec pills, felt the pain anytime I missed taking my medications, and was even diagnosed with GERD Nobody ever told me about what caused it, or how diet and lifestyle played a part in my digestive health. In this episode, I'm sharing a common issue many people have called hypochlorhydria (aka low stomach acid) and the effects it has on your overall health, let alone your digestion! Your stomach is such an important organ that plays a role in things you may not even be aware of! We can learn alot from your stomach acid, and lack thereof! Tune in to learn about hypochlorhydria, H. Pylori, their causes and how to heal from them to get your body back to homeostasis!   01:30 What caused me to struggle with horrible acid reflux growing up? 08:15 Functions the stomach is responsible for! 13:00 What happens when your stomach acid is too low? 17:00 Symptoms of having low stomach acid. 20:40 What can hypochlorhydria cause? 28:00 How do you heal from hypochlorhydria? 31:45 Ways stress leads to stomach issues. 34:50 The importance of slowing down and eliminating stress when you eat your meals. 38:15 What are foods to avoid if you have low stomach acid? 41:00 Effects of drinking alcohol when you have ulcers or H. Pylori. 46:30 What about dairy? 51:20 How do you treat H. Pylori?

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