Podcasts about fantasy genre

Schick uns deinen Themenvorschlag oder deine Frage zum Buch schreiben und veröffentlichenEine fantastische Welt, die an das Mittelalter erinnert, eine Prophezeiung, die das Schicksal der Welt verändern könnte, und verborgene Kräfte, mit denen die Hauptfigur gesegnet ist. Es gibt viele Klischees, die in der Fantasy vorkommen können – und die zu Vorurteilen führen: Fantasy-Geschichten laufen immer gleich ab, sie leiden unter zu wenig Logik und zu viel Beschreibung und überhaupt sind sie einfach nur billiger Schund, der obendrein noch vom Teufel geschickt wurde!So oder so ähnlich klingen sie, die Vorurteile gegenüber dem Fantasy-Genre. Dabei ist es ein so weitläufiges Genre, dass keines dieser Vorurteile je auf alle Werke der Phantastik zutreffen könnte. Und manche sind auch einfach purer Humbug. Was Chris, Emmy und Cara von einigen gängigen Fantasy-Vorurteilen halten und welche Vorurteile man beim Schreiben bewusst umgehen kann, erfährst du in dieser Folge.Links aus der Folge:✩ https://zeilenschlinger.de/wie-fantasy-roman-schreiben-workshop/Dein fantastisches BuchabenteuerIn dieser Reihe von 12 Online-Workshops begleiten wir dich Schritt für Schritt durch den gesamten Schreibprozess:Rüste dich für die Entwicklung deiner GeschichteLerne den Umgang mit den wichtigsten SchreibwerkzeugenMeistere das Schreiben von Dialogen, Plot-Twists und CoVerleihe deinem Manuskript den letzten SchliffJetzt mehr erfahren: https://zeilenschlinger.de/fantastisches-buchabenteuer/ Support the showHol dir das 0 Euro Workbook gegen Schreibblockaden in unseren Zeilenschlinger Discord Channel:https://discord.gg/nRnDa5xt36Du willst dein Buch im Podcast vorstellen oder als Dienstleister:in in der Buchbubble, deine Kund:innen erreichen?✩ Informiere dich hier: https://www.zeilenschlinger.de/werbeplatzKennt ihr schon unseren Arschtritt des Monats? ✩ Als Newsletter-Abonnent erhältst zu exklusiven Zugang zu unserer Datenbank, in der wir Vorlagen und Checklisten zu unseren Themen teilen. ✩ Du erhältst Einblick in unseren persönlichen Schreibprozess. ✩ Hier geht es zur AnmeldungEuch gefällt unser Podcast? Wir würden uns über Eure Unterstützung freuen: ✩ Werdet offizieller Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Zeilenschlinger ✩ Gebt uns einen Kaffee aus über Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/zeilenschlinger Vielen Dank an unsere Patreons! ✩ Vivien Busch✩ Carolin StreckmannFolge uns gern auch auf unseren anderen Kanälen, um auf dem Laufenden zu bleiben: ✩ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zeilenschlinger/ ✩ Facebook: https://www.f...

"Die Prinzessinnen" – Uwe Kullnick spricht mit Christian Endres – Hörbahn on Stage Es liest  Cassiel Metris  (Hördauer ca.  89 min, Gesprächsanfang bei min. 24) "Die Prinzessinnen: Fünf gegen die Finsternis" ist ein actiongeladener Fantasy-Roman von Christian Endres, der die Geschichte von fünf ehemaligen Königstöchtern erzählt, die als Söldnerinnen durch eine Welt voller Gefahren ziehen.Die Protagonistinnen Aiby, Mef, Decanra, Cinn und die neu hinzugekommene Narvila haben sich als knallharte Truppe einen Namen gemacht. Mit Schwert und Streitaxt kämpfen sie gegen verschiedene Kreaturen wie Räuber, Werwölfe, Oger, Kobolde und Drachen. Ihre Spezialität ist das Retten von Thronerbinnen in Not.Die Geschichte nimmt eine Wendung, als die Prinzessinnen den Auftrag erhalten, Prinzessin Narvila zu befreien. Statt in ihr Schloss zurückzukehren, entscheidet sich Narvila dafür, sich der Söldnerinnentruppe anzuschließen.Der Roman wird als "Grimdark-Fantasy" beschrieben, eine düstere und brutale Form der Fantasy-Literatur1. Die Handlung ist geprägt von expliziten Kampfszenen, bissigen Dialogen und einer rauen Welt2. Der Autor spart nicht an heftigen Details, und die Kämpfe werden oft blutig und brutal dargestellt.Trotz der harten Action gibt es auch Raum für Charakterentwicklung und zwischenmenschliche Beziehungen. Die fünf Protagonistinnen werden als vielschichtige Antiheldinnen dargestellt, die weder klassischen Fantasy-Stereotypen noch romantischen Klischees entsprechen.Der Roman bietet eine ungewöhnliche Perspektive auf das Fantasy-Genre, indem er starke weibliche Charaktere in den Mittelpunkt stellt und mit Genrekonventionen bricht  Christian Endres, Jahrgang 1986, lebt und arbeitet als freier Autor in der Nähe von Würzburg – inmitten von viel zu vielen Büchern und Comics. Im Mai 2024 ist sein Roman Wolfszone bei Heyne erschienen, eine Mischung aus Hardboiled-Krimi und Science-Fiction – ein Roman über ein Deutschland der nahen Zukunft, zwischen künstlicher Intelligenz und Klimawandel, Cyborg-Wölfen und einer gespaltenen Gesellschaft. Im April 2023 erschien bei Cross Cult sein Fantasy-Roman Die Prinzessinnen – Fünf gegen die Finsternis, der schon vor Auslieferung in die zweite Auflage ging. Im November 2023 folgte Die Prinzessinnen – Helden und andere Dämonen. Das von Funda Vanroy eingelesene Hörbuch des ersten Bandes stand auf der Shortlist für den Preis Der Goldene Stephan. Für November 2024 ist der dritte Band Die Prinzessinnen – Hoheitliches Gemetzel geplant. Wenn Ihnen dieser Beitrag gefallen hat, hören Sie doch auch einmal hier hinein oder vielleicht in diese Sendung Kommen Sie doch auch einfach mal zu unseren Live-Aufzeichnungen in Pixel  (Gasteig München) Redaktion und Realisation Uwe Kullnick

In this episode, Janeen Ippolito discusses the intricate relationship between world building and genre in science fiction and fantasy writing. She emphasizes the importance of understanding genre definitions, cultural influences, and reader expectations. The conversation provides practical tips for authors on how to navigate the complexities of genre research and effectively connect with their target audience.• World building is essential for defining genre in speculative fiction.• Genres are influenced by cultural factors, including economic needs and reader expectations.• Readers of sci-fi and fantasy particularly seek immersive world building.• Understanding genre requires reading widely within the genre and its subgenres.• Successful authors can provide insights into genre-specific tropes and expectations.• Engaging with reader communities can reveal what audiences expect from a genre.• Trial and error is a natural part of the genre research process.• Authors can influence genre evolution through innovative storytelling.• Crossover effects from other media can shape genre trends.• The choice of genre and its elements ultimately lies with the author.

The fantasy genre often features magical worlds ruled by kings and conquerors with no mention of Indigenous people or of the harms of colonization. This week Rosanna speaks with Indigenous creators who are changing the narrative of fantasy from novels to comics and even board games.

Wir blicken voraus auf die Netflix-Filme, die noch 2024 starten sollen. Welche Highlights aus dem Sci-Fi- und Fantasy-Genre erwarten uns noch? Wird demnächst Denzel Washingtons gesamte Familie zu Oscar-Kandidat:innen? Und ist die wahre Geschichte vom ersten IVF-Baby oder doch die von einem Serienkiller in einer Dating-Show spannender? Timecodes: 00:00:45 – Netflix-Filme (+ Rebel Ridge) 00:06:03 – Drei Töchter (20.09.) 00:10:08 – Der Schacht 2 (04.10.) 00:15:15 – The Shadow Strays (Codename 13) (17.10.) 00:20:09 – Woman of the Hour (The Dating Game Killer) (18.10.) 00:24:18 – Die Werwölfe von Düsterwald (23.10.) 00:28:21 – Spellbound (20.11.) 00:33:23 – Uprising (vsl. 11.10.) 00:37:44 – The Piano Lesson (20.11.) 00:42:58 – Joy (20.11.) 00:46:05 – Carry-On (13.12.) 00:51:05 – Verabschiedung *** Dieser Podcast wird gesponsert von MagentaTV – dem TV- und Streaming-Angebot der Telekom. Abonniere und bewerte Streamgestöber bei der Podcast-App deines Vertrauens! Wenn du mit deiner Meinung im Podcast landen willst, schick uns eine Sprachnachricht oder einen Kommentar per Mail an podcast@moviepilot.de.

Heute gibt's viel aus dem Fantasy-Genre, reichlich Krimis und nur ein bisschen Liebe. Wieder sind ein paar kostenlose Kindle-E-Books dabei, bei denen sich Geduld lohnt, denn aus der umfangreichen Reihe sind immer wieder mal andere Bände gratis.

If you're a long term listener, you'll already be aware that the concept of 'genre' is mostly just a tool to aid categorisation, especially when it comes to selling books. That said, there are points on the timeline that are considered recognised emergence points for specific major genres. This week, Jules and Madeleine take a look at the evolution of fantasy: where did the idea come from? When did it diverge from fairy tales and folklore? And how did it become the speculative fiction power house genre it is today?   Part 2 of a 2 part episode.   Title music - Ecstasy by Smiling Cynic

If you're a long term listener, you'll already be aware that the concept of 'genre' is mostly just a tool to aid categorisation, especially when it comes to selling books. That said, there are points on the timeline that are considered recognised emergence points for specific major genres. This week, Jules and Madeleine take a look at the evolution of fantasy: where did the idea come from? When did it diverge from fairy tales and folklore? And how did it become the speculative fiction power house genre it is today? Part 1 of a 2 part episode. Title music: Ecstasy by Smiling Cynic

PATREON MOVIE DISCUSSION: Shesmadeofwords Podcast & InstagramShirleon joins Melvin in discussing Millie Bobby Brown's latest acting venture: Damsel! From it's wild, fluctuating tone to actually making a dragon scary, there's plenty to be explored in this latest girl-power fantasy tale! Topics:(PATREON EXCLUSIVE) 30-minutes discussing "Why It's Never Been Easier to Land in Director's Jail", a write-up by Mia Galuppo on The Hollywood Reporter, and one of its observations: that producers look at a Director's Rotten Tomatoes Scores in deciding who to hire, and who to ignore. (PATREON EXCLUSIVE) Shirleon has started her own podcast called "Shesmadeofwords", a podcast about the books she's reading, bookstagram, and so much more!Shirleon liked Damsel, even texting Melvin to check it out after watching the film, and liked its twist on the traditional storybook of yore.Melvin felt there was a "confusion in tone", but otherwise still enjoyed the fact that the Dragon was handled more like a horror-movie villain than your typical mythical beast.Melvin has already seen Damsel before. He watched it back in 2022. Back then, it was called The Princess and featured Joey King as its lead. Jokingly, he compares the two films, and how he liked The Princess a lot more.In various, different ways, Shirleon and Melvin both wanted more from the film.Shirleon loved Millie Bobby Brown's performance. Melvin, on the other hand, felt something was seriously off for this otherwise consistently stellar performer. So begins a long thread about acting as an artform.Discussing specific plot details (with spoilers) and how the movie fails to telegraph important details. Also, Melvin loses his mind.Recommendations:Shōgun (2024) (Mini Series)Ghostwatch (1992) (Movie)Late Night with the Devil (2023) (Movie) Support the Show.Support on Patreon for Unique Perks! Early access to uncut episodes Vote on a movie/show we review One-time reward of two Cinematic Doctrine Stickers & Pins Social Links: Threads Website Instagram Facebook Group

In which we talk to Michele Masala about They Came from the Cyclops's Cave! and They Came from Witchford Academy! * RPG custody battle * They Came from the Cyclops's Cave * Fantasy inspirations * Humor in fantasy * They Came from Witchford Academy! * Inspirations * Kinds of stories * Mixing it up * More on the academy * Mimics * Excitement! * UKGE   Links: Onyx Path YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheOnyxPath Onyx Path Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/theonyxpath Onyx Path Discord: https://discord.gg/5uckcBk

Eine gute Entscheidung, dass Villeneuve wieder an Originalschauplätzen gedreht hat – was erst einmal wie eine mittelgute Pointe klingt, beschreibt die visuelle Qualität von DUNE und noch mehr von DUNE: PART TWO sehr gut. Der Film vermittelt tatsächlich den Eindruck, als hätte sich Villeneuve einfach gegen CGI entschieden, wäre nach Arrakis geflogen und hätte die Fremen überredet auf dem Wüstenplaneten vor die Kamera zu treten. Das bedeutet für mich als Zuschauer eine enorm immersive Illusion. Vergleichbar ist das – wenn überhaupt – nur mit der visuellen Dimension des ersten LORD OF THE RINGS von Peter Jackson im Fantasy-Genre und lässt alle anderen SF-Epen in dieser Hinsicht weit hinter sich.Frank Herberts Roman lässt sich durchaus missverstehen als Verherrlichung eines Feudalsystems und als Heldenkult – oberflächlich lässt sich Paul Atreides als White Saviour lesen, der kommt, um das religiös manipulierbare Wüstenvolk der Fremen zu befreien. Herberts kritische Ansätze über religiösen Fundamentalismus, Manipulation, Naturzerstörung, Ausbeutung, Faschismus und den rücksichtslosen Kampf der Eliten um wichtige Ressourcen, werden in der spannenden Handlung schnell überlesen. Villeneuve bemüht sich diese Kritik sichtbar zu machen: Paul spricht es mehrfach direkt an, dass es ihm als Außenweltler nicht zusteht, die Fremen zu führen. Und er weigert sich lange, seine Rolle in der politisch-religiösen Intrige der Bene Gesserit zu spielen.Villeneuve macht auch deutlich, dass der religiöse Fundamentalismus der Fremen das Ergebnis einer Manipulation durch eine Elite ist, der Film demaskiert Religion als Machtwerkzeug. Ein absoluter Gänsehaut-Moment, als Paul Atreides die Messiasrolle annimmt, um sie zu seinen Bedingungen auszufüllen. Während ich beim ersten DUNE noch mit Timothee Chamelet als Paul Atreides gefremdelt hatte (zu viel Kyle MacLachlan abgespeichert), hat er mich dieses Mal überzeugt als schlaksiger Königssohn, der zu früh und gegen seinen Willen erst in die Rolle des Herzogs, dann in die Rolle des Messias gedrängt wird – ein Hamlet der Wüste.Villeneuves DUNE: PART TWO ist auch ein Science-Fiction der starken und vor allem klugen Frauen: Die Bene Gesserit, die die toxisch-maskulinen Männer am Nasenring durch ihre Jahrhunderte alte Agenda ziehen, Pauls Mutter, die als Reverend Mother die Kontrolle übernimmt, die scharfsinnige Tochter des Imperators und vor allem Pauls Lebensgefährtin Chani, die sich (anders als in der Romanvorlage) gegen Pauls Heiligen Krieg stellt. Am Ende dieses zweiten Teils sind die Protagonisten ambivalent (Achtung SPOILER!): Die Überlebenden des Hauses Atreides werden das ganze Universum in einen Krieg mit vielen Millionen Toten führen, die edlen Freiheitskämpfer werden fanatische Werkzeuge eines Heiligen Krieges … Ich hoffe sehr, dass Villeneuve irgendwann einen dritten Teil dreht (der sich dann um DUNE MESSIAH drehen würde).Direkt nach dem Kino sind mitten in der Nacht vor dem Mikrofon: Johanna, Kathrin, Hendrik, Tom und Thomas. Wir diskutieren über Villeneuves Vertrauen in die Kraft seiner Bilder, ob das Epische ermüdet oder auch nicht, über Butlers Dschihad, Schauwerte und Bauchgrimmen, optischen Ekkletizismus, den visuellen Faschismus der Harkonnen, über abwesende Navigatoren und Christopher Walken als alter Imperator.

Mehr Infos zur Folge: Unser heutiger PC Games Podcast steht ganz im Zeichen des kommenden Action-RPGs Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden. Das französische Studio Dontnod hat sich spätestens mit Life is Strange in die Geschichtsbücher geschrieben, aber auch seitdem gab es etliche coole und spannende Spiele aus Paris - etwa das Kletterabenteuer Jusant, Tell Me Why und vieles mehr.2018 versuchte man sich bereits am Fantasy-Genre und ging für "Vampyr" eine Partnerschaft mit Focus Home Entertainment ein. Dieses Mal, bei Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden, ist einiges gleich. Wieder stehen Fantasy, Kämpfe und düstere Themen im Zentrum, auch Focus ist zurück als Publisher. Der wichtige Unterschied: Banishers ist absolut grandios!Unser Spieletester und Redakteur Carlo Siebenhüner, Redakteur Matthias Dammes und PCG-Moderator Maci Naeem Cheema sprechen in unserer knapp 30-minütigen Folge ausgiebig darüber, was die kleine und kompakte RPG-Erfahrung so besonders macht und warum ihr unbedingt ebenfalls nach New Eden aufbrechen solltet. Direkt hier findet ihr natürlich auch unser Review-Video zum Spiel. Wenn ihr uns noch nicht auf YouTube folgt, dann solltet ihr das schleunigst nachholen. Gleiches gilt natürlich für den PC Games Podcast, versteht sich.

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The guys take a look at the Fantasy Genre in all of its intrigue, deep lore and intrinsic obsession.Ep 38

Fantasy can seem like an intimidating genre, but if you're interested in reading YA fantasy books, you may find this intro to the genre helpful! Let me know in Spotify comments or emails if you'd like more guides like this in the future. Email: hookofabookpodcast@gmail.com. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/Ellie-Mano/message

In der Weihnachtsfolge 2023 geht es um Motive und Themen im Fantasy-Genre. Die fantastischen Geschichten rund um Zwerge, Elfen und andere Wesen sind voll von wichtigen Motiven mit aktuellem Bezug. Mit dem Antisemitismusbeauftragtem und Fantasy-Liebhaber Michael Blume spreche ich über Gut und Böse, Rassismus und Krieg in der Fantasy. Wie können gute Geschichten helfen uns an eine schreckliche Realität heranzutasten und können Tolkien & Co. sogar beitragen Probleme wie Klimakrise, Diskriminierung und Wissenschaftsfeindlichkeit anzugehen?

#130 Dicke Elfen und queere Zwerge - Diversität im Fantasy-Roman (mit Juri Pavlovic)Wir Menschen sind vielfältig. Wir sind groß und klein, jung und alt, weiß und PoC, queer und hetero, neurodivers und neurotypisch. Doch nicht alle von uns fühlen sich gleichermaßen in Geschichten repräsentiert.Gerade im Fantasy-Genre gibt es oft die immer gleichen Elemente und Wesen - Zauberer, Elfen, Vampire, Werwölfe. Allzu große Vielfalt sieht man in deren Darstellungen bislang nicht. Zudem wird gerade die High-Fantasy von weißen Männern dominiert.Wie also bringt man mehr Diversität in (Fantasy-)Romane? Wie schreibt man Hexen mit ADHS, schwule Elben oder Rassismus unter Zwergen? Darüber sprechen Eve und Caro mit "Textehexe" Juri Pavlovic.Links aus der Folge:Folge 92: Sensitivity Reading - https://open.spotify.com/episode/1xFvf53n4utAt3MtEbiUAs?si=dfa6a4d177eb4ce1https://www.textehexe.com/https://amrun-verlag.de/produkt/die-frost-chroniken-1-krieg-und-kroeten/Support the showDu willst dein Buch im Podcast vorstellen oder als Dienstleister:in in der Buchbubble, deine Kund:innen erreichen?✩ Informiere dich hier: https://www.zeilenschlinger.de/werbeplatzKennt ihr schon unseren Arschtritt des Monats? ✩ Als Newsletter-Abonnent erhältst zu exklusiven Zugang zu unserer Datenbank, in der wir Vorlagen und Checklisten zu unseren Themen teilen. ✩ Du erhältst Einblick in unseren persönlichen Schreibprozess. ✩ Hier geht es zur AnmeldungEuch gefällt unser Podcast? Wir würden uns über Eure Unterstützung freuen: ✩ Werdet offizieller Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Zeilenschlinger ✩ Gebt uns einen Kaffee aus über Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/zeilenschlinger Vielen Dank an unsere Patreons! ✩ Vivien Busch✩ Carolin StreckmannFolge uns gern auch auf unseren anderen Kanälen, um auf dem Laufenden zu bleiben: ✩ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zeilenschlinger/ ✩ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Zeilenschlinger ✩ Homepage: https://www.zeilenschlinger.de/ #Autorenleben #Schreiben #Podcast #Zeilens...

In der neuen Folge Filmpalaver dreht sich alles um Storytelling und das Fantasy Genre. Die Filmpalaver Crew hat den Autor René Lehmann eingeladen, um mit ihm über das Erschaffen von fiktiven Welten, den Schreibprozess und seinen neuen Roman "Kargstein: Der Aufstieg des Königsmörders" zu schnacken. Spaß beim Reinschauen! :)

Er hat nicht nur erfolgreiche Geschichten geschrieben - er hat eine ganze Welt erschaffen. J.R.R. Tolkien, der Autor der «Herr der Ringe» Bücher. Vor 50 Jahren ist er gestorben und inspiriert bis heute das Fantasy-Genre. «Herr der Ringe» - in der Kinoversion eine der erfolgreichsten Trilogien überhaupt - als Bücher seit Jahrzehnten ein wiederkehrender Bestseller. J.R.R Tolkien beeinflusst mit seiner Mittelerde, seinen Gestalten und Helden das Fantasy-Genre bist heute, in Literatur, Film und in Games. Warum prägt er dieses Genre noch immer? Weil er allumfassend war, sagt der Professor für Anglistik und Tolkien-Experte Thomas Honegger in der Sendung «Treffpunkt». Und erklärt weiter, weshalb die italienische Ministerpräsidentin Giorgia Meloni, von der postfaschistischen Partei «Fratelli dItalia», für «Herrn der Ringe» schwärmt. 

With Tara on vacation, Rebecca and Sarah chat about Fantasy Fiction with a quick nod at the end to Sci-Fi. What Is the Fantasy Genre? History of Fantasy and Subgenres and Types of Fantasy in Literature by author Dan Brown The 100 Best Fantasy Books of All Time by Time Magazine Rebecca (@canadareadsamerican style): The Golden Compass by Philip Pullman Tuck Everlasting by Natalie Babbitt A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle The Phantom Tollbooth by Norton Juster The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis Watership Down by Richard Adams Redwall by Brian Jacques Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor More Than Human by Theodore Sturgeon Sarah (@sareshears): The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien The Final Empire (Mistborn #1); Tress of the Emerald Sea; Frugal Wizard's Handbook for Surviving Medieval England by Brandon Sanderson The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams Canada Reads American Style is now an affiliate of Bookshop.org, where your purchases support local independent bookstores.  Our curated shop includes books discussed on the podcast.  When you purchase a book through our virtual bookshop, a portion of the sales benefits a local bookstore, as well as the podcast, which helps offset the costs of the show. 

Angie Thomas's 2017 novel “The Hate U Give” was a game changer, addressing racism and police brutality for young readers. It also sold millions of copies — and faced multiple book bans. Angie's gone on to write a bunch of bestselling YA books, and she talks about why shifting to fantasy is a whole new way to talk to kids about racism.

In this episode, I discuss many things Sword & Sorcery related*, including my favorite related movie tropes, D&D (both game and movie), my favorites from the genre, and the art of knowing when to take a pee break at the movie theater while missing the minimum amount of what the story has to offer. *mostly(Music Courtesy of Epidemic Sound)One Last Battle – Edgar HoppWhen All Kings Fall – Edgar HoppBreaker of Chains – Jon BjorkArrow Rain – Bonnie GraceNow We Fight – Bonnie GraceDeorc Decuple – FormantXStealing Mushrooms – The Fly Guy FivePersonal Vendetta – Edgar HoppPhoenix Rising – Edgar HoppLast Strike For Glory – Dream CaveLeap of Faith – Edgar HoppA Million Upheavals – Edgar HoppTowards Dawn – Reynard SeidelSuperhero Story 2 – Fredrik Ekstrom 

In this first ever intimate interview, Lissette goes solo to discuss Lizz Huerta's first time novel, The Lost Dreamer. A lush, immersive debut fantasy about a group of women whose way of life is threatened by a new king; a fierce celebration of community, sisterhood, and finding our power.

“Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.”We Finally Talk About Peter Jackson's Epic Fantasy TrilogyConsidering our immense love for this film and the original material, it's a bit surprising that it's taken us into our twelfth season to discuss The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Peter Jackson and his amazing team believed in this world and crafted a script, found a cast, built a crew, and gave it their all to deliver a series of films that perfectly told a cinematic version of J.R.R. Tolkien's books while also creating a model for fantasy filmmaking as well as a model for massive scale film production. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we kick off our Lord of the Rings series with a conversation about Jackson's 2001 film The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. Here's a hint at what we talk about.It's a challenge having a conversation about this trilogy as so much has already been said and documented about the production, etc. Still, it gives us a chance to discuss what Jackson brings to the table. How does his production style work in the film? We talk about the cast and many other options that are in the could-have-been version. We certainly prefer this one, but there are interesting actors to discuss. How do the extended and additional scenes work to expand the story for us? We love Howard Shore's score so of course discuss it, but we are fans of what each department brings to the film as they're all working on something they clearly were passionate about. There are some dated effects, but barely any and they don't really bug us much. As for the creatures, they all stand out as impressive but we do have some questions about Jackson going all King Kong on us with the Cave Troll. And lest we forget the Sean Bean memes...We have a great time talking about it, so check it out then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!Join the conversation with movie lovers from around the world on The Next Reel's Discord channel!Film SundriesLearn more about supporting The Next Reel Film Podcast through your own membership.Watch this on Apple or Amazon, or find other places at JustWatchScript OptionsTheatrical trailerPoster artworkFlickchartLetterboxd(00:00) - Welcome to The Next Reel • The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring(02:31) - Meme(03:25) - Extended Edition(10:43) - Ending(13:22) - Fantasy Genre in 2001(19:01) - Making a Trilogy as One(21:52) - Highlights of the Production(24:39) - Aged Effects?(27:31) - No Hobbit First?(29:14) - Intro Setup(30:02) - Cinematic Fake Outs(35:55) - Comedy in Fantasy(41:22) - Cave Troll King Kong?(46:22) - Cast(57:26) - Orcs, Uruk-Hai, Goblins, Black Riders, Etc.(59:38) - Industry vs. Environment(01:01:39) - Gollum(01:04:14) - Jackson's Style(01:09:58) - Howard Shore(01:11:14) - Jackson's Work(01:19:58) - Credits(01:20:50) - Awards(01:29:42) - The Box Office(01:31:08) - Last Thoughts(01:31:28) - Coming Next Week • The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers(01:33:22) - Letterboxd(01:34:33) - Wrap Up

“Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.”We Finally Talk About Peter Jackson's Epic Fantasy TrilogyConsidering our immense love for this film and the original material, it's a bit surprising that it's taken us into our twelfth season to discuss The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Peter Jackson and his amazing team believed in this world and crafted a script, found a cast, built a crew, and gave it their all to deliver a series of films that perfectly told a cinematic version of J.R.R. Tolkien's books while also creating a model for fantasy filmmaking as well as a model for massive scale film production. Join us – Pete Wright and Andy Nelson – as we kick off our Lord of the Rings series with a conversation about Jackson's 2001 film The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. Here's a hint at what we talk about.It's a challenge having a conversation about this trilogy as so much has already been said and documented about the production, etc. Still, it gives us a chance to discuss what Jackson brings to the table. How does his production style work in the film? We talk about the cast and many other options that are in the could-have-been version. We certainly prefer this one, but there are interesting actors to discuss. How do the extended and additional scenes work to expand the story for us? We love Howard Shore's score so of course discuss it, but we are fans of what each department brings to the film as they're all working on something they clearly were passionate about. There are some dated effects, but barely any and they don't really bug us much. As for the creatures, they all stand out as impressive but we do have some questions about Jackson going all King Kong on us with the Cave Troll. And lest we forget the Sean Bean memes...We have a great time talking about it, so check it out then tune in. The Next Reel – when the movie ends, our conversation begins!Join the conversation with movie lovers from around the world on The Next Reel's Discord channel!Film SundriesLearn more about supporting The Next Reel Film Podcast through your own membership.Watch this on Apple or Amazon, or find other places at JustWatchScript OptionsTheatrical trailerPoster artworkFlickchartLetterboxd(00:00) - Welcome to The Next Reel • The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring(02:31) - Meme(03:25) - Extended Edition(10:43) - Ending(13:22) - Fantasy Genre in 2001(19:01) - Making a Trilogy as One(21:52) - Highlights of the Production(24:39) - Aged Effects?(27:31) - No Hobbit First?(29:14) - Intro Setup(30:02) - Cinematic Fake Outs(35:55) - Comedy in Fantasy(41:22) - Cave Troll King Kong?(46:22) - Cast(57:26) - Orcs, Uruk-Hai, Goblins, Black Riders, Etc.(59:38) - Industry vs. Environment(01:01:39) - Gollum(01:04:14) - Jackson's Style(01:09:58) - Howard Shore(01:11:14) - Jackson's Work(01:19:58) - Credits(01:20:50) - Awards(01:29:42) - The Box Office(01:31:08) - Last Thoughts(01:31:28) - Coming Next Week • The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers(01:33:22) - Letterboxd(01:34:33) - Wrap Up

Episode 33 brings in the second guest host of the podcast, Louis, for a discussion on Kubo and the Two Strings! This stop motion animated Oscar-nominated film from 2016 is a must-see; fun, creative, and heartfelt. This episode contain spoilers!Check out my guest host's Instagram:Louis's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/louloureviewsSupport the showIf you'd like to email me with thoughts, questions, or if you're interesting in joining as a guest host, please email at thefellowshipofthemic@gmail.com!Here are all of important links for The Fellowship of the Mic podcast! If you want to support the show, please consider donating or subscribing! Both links are available on the podcast's website below.Website -https://www.thefellowshipofthemic.comInstagram -https://www.instagram.com/fellowshipmic/ Twitter -https://twitter.com/FellowshipMicFacebook -https://www.facebook.com/thefellowshipofthemic

Episode 32 welcomes the podcast's first ever guest host, David Joshua Taylor, you may also know him as @UltimateMovieAccount on Instagram. Join us in our spoiler-free discussion of Jim Henson and Frank Oz's 1982 The Dark Crystal. Passive AggressionA Midwestern look at hot button, taboo and dated topics with Kyle and Jess WassingListen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show

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We're revisiting our favorite movies in the Fantasy Genre as each episode goes deep into the common tropes of the beloved Fantasy genre. Stay tuned for episodes on Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon, Tales in Dungeons and Dragons, Fantasy Novels and Folklore, and so much more like I promise you there's a lot of stuff to talk about here.    

Christen Horne refers to herself as a nerd, geek and gamer. She's a big fan of reading and loves Star Wars.As an accomplished singer, she received her Masters in Opera Performance. In addition to the entire family being singers and musicians, archery became a big part of their lives as well.  When Karla, Christen's mother, was in high school she became the California State Champion Archer and the family still enjoys the sport today. Having a mom that worked wasn't that unusual for Christen. Her mom had been a paralegal for years after completing her associates degree.  As the three children were growing up, Karla was  leading worship at the local church.  They spent a lot of time at the church. But my guest says she enjoyed it because they were always singing.Ms. Horne fondly remembers her mom embracing whatever fun activities the kids would be involved in, including  going to water parks and going down the water slides together, playing board games and spending quality time involved with the family. Years ago, Christen was actively involved in her community theatre programs.  She fondly retells the story of  the production of  "Fiddler On The Roof," when her mom and aunt  were  "volun-told' that they  had to play village fathers.  There were no other boys/male actors to play the part.  They still laugh about it today.Christen considered her mother as being firm yet compassionate when it came to disciplining the three kids.  Homework definitely took the priority especially over video games. Homework wasn't done, no one got  to play. Christen says  "mom was always really good about helping us find the balance in things. Making sure we had time to play  and making sure we got our homework done."  It wasn't until Christen started to realize  that she often hid her emotions, that she started to recall other instances from her childhood that were clearly  unhappy. She had suffered from depression at a young age that was left undiagnosed. She felt that her mother was embarrassed when Christen showed her true emotions. Horne shared with me that "through my mental health journey, I've gotten more comfortable being more myself around my mom."  Often feeling "this is my fault," Christen often blamed herself and felt that if her mother rejected her, it would be devastating.  It's scary to be a young child and not understand complicated emotional situation.Working with coaches on a regular basis has helped Christen tremendously. "You pick one hurt, then move on to another," reflects Horne. Through working with her coaches she says her relationship with her mom is so much better and she's very grateful for all the support.Christen is now working on her fantasy book which features her main character 'Alkara' who's named after mother and who also is an archer. Here is the link.  https://worldofurda.com/ Christen Horne https://lajollamusic.com/christen-horne-voicehttps://hornestudio.lpages.co/https://hornestudio.lpages.co/discover-our-classes/ Discover MoreFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/horneperformancestudioundiagnosed

In this instalment, Janina and Lucy from The Fey Fellowes podcast return for a chat about the age-old tales of Beowulf and King Arthur. We look at the story behind these two tales and how they've endured for so long. We also explore the influence that they've had on the founders of the fantasy genre, such as Tolkien and CS Lewis. And we consider what writers can learn from these classic epics. If you have any questions or requests, please write to us at thefantasywriterstoolshed@gmail.comTo access exclusive interviews, discussions, fantasy writing classes, books and more head over to our Patreon page - https://www.patreon.com/TheFantasyWritersToolshed If you're interested in fantasy writing classes, head here - https://richiebilling.com/fantasy-writing-classesLearn more about the fantasy writing podcast here - https://richiebilling.com/welcome/the-fantasy-writers-toolshed-podcast REGISTER FOR THE EMAIL MARKETING CLASShttps://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/email-marketing-for-authors-tickets-428073548507JOIN OUR WRITING COMMUNITYJoin our community here - https://bit.ly/join-our-writing-groupOUR GUESTSJanina Arndt and Lucy Atkinson - The Fey Fellows Podcast - https://www.instagram.com/feyfellowspodcast/ / https://anchor.fm/fey-fellows-podcastSounds and editing by Odysy - https://www.youtube.com/c/Odysyx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Fei, Garrett, and Adam pop in to let you know they're still here and they're all eagerly awaiting the arrival of season two! They talk about the rise of the television Fantasy Genre, the NYCC trailer for WoT Season 2, and their hopes for the future of the franchise. 

Episode 25 of The Fellowship of the Mic has arrived! And with it, Sach and Shan discuss episodes 4 and 5 of House of the Dragon. Steamy steamy = the Targaryen way.Two HermanosWe are two nerdy brothers talking about nerdy topics. From video games to anime and...Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify TabletoppedEach week Nick Perron dives into the art of running TTRPGs with professional storytellers.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show

     Saul and Jolene have been asked and seen many posts on social media about alternatives to D&D.  Saul decided to stay in the Fantasy Genre and chose a couple of games that are in the same genre but come at Fantasy from a totally different perspective.        This was supposed to be a single episode discussing a couple of what Saul considers very good examples of being Fantasy RPGs but as far removed from D&D as possible in rules and setting.  The first to be discussed is Warhammer Fantasy RPG.   Saul discusses how Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying game is different from the very popular D&D 5th edition.        From the Grim world setting which is very different from most setting in D&D to the very deadly system which pairs very well with the world of Warhammer.  The rules are not only deadly but a bit more crunchy/complicated than D&D 5th edtion.   The system makes the players play in a different style.  Combat is always brutal should be a last resort and often ends with brutal consequences even for the victor.       This was supposed to be a single episode featuring two alternative Fantasy RPGs to D&D.  Unfortunately we only discussed Warhammer so this must be a two episode topic.     As Always Thank You All for Listening.    Web page art by Jim Foster    Episode Art by Michael Shean-Jones.       Music by Janelle Avery, song Hammer it All, off the album My Songs.     Available from Tribeofnoise.com

Episode 21 brings to you the discussion of Episode 2 entitled "Adrift" for The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power. Sach still has mixed feelings for the series, but Shan is a bit more optimistic! What did you think of the second episode?The Lowest DeepA supernatural horror fiction series.Listen on: SpotifySupport the show

BEING an inquiry into the meaning of worldbuilding and the semiotic functions of those fictional maps familiar to us through the likes of The Lord of the Rings (and its many cousins), TTRPGs and video games like Skyrim and NORCO. What do fantasy maps actually do, and what do they mean? Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jeddcole Twitter: @inside_textpod Soundtrack: https://jeddcole.bandcamp.com/ Racism in fantasy fiction: “Tolkien and Race”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolkien_and_race “Race: the Original Sin of the Fantasy Genre”: https://www.publicmedievalist.com/race-fantasy-genre/ SOURCES AND MAPS: https://insidethetext.files.wordpress.com/2022/08/sources_the-meanings-of-fantasy-maps.pdf --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

New York Times bestselling author Brigid Kemmerer talks to Cheryl Akle about the rise of the fantasy genre, and why we're seeking escapism more and more. Her latest book, Forging Silver into Stars, is out now. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Robert Jordan — How the Wheel of Time Creator Became an Icon of the Fantasy Genre James Oliver Rigney Jr. (better known by his pen name Robert Jordan) is best known for his breakout fantasy series "The Wheel of Time," which breathed new life into a genre that had grown somewhat stale since Tolkien took the scene by storm decades earlier. But before he wrote the several million words that would become his legacy, Rigney/Jordan served in Vietnam, became a nuclear engineer, and had a near-death experience that inspired him to finally pick up a pen. AND he was a good husband and human, y'all, which Tyler and Hannah were very excited to learn. Longtime listeners know we don't get to feature a lot of healthy relationships on this show, but you'll be delighted to hear about Rigney/Jordan's marriage to Harriet McDougal a woman who was, incidentally, also a huge part of shaping the "Wheel of Time" series. Also, Tyler announces the upcoming release of his fantasy sitcom series "The Penny Lich," available June 7th! For updates, subscribe to his newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/29f1a174c134/pennylichjoin Thank you to Jake Bassen for our theme song: https://soundcloud.com/jakebassen As well as Cam Clawson, for our Correspondence Remix: https://soundcloud.com/camclawson7 Follow us on Instagram: @lewisandlovecraft @twclawson_pdx @thehannahray Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LewisandLovecraft/ Website: https://lewislovecraft.weebly.com/ Email: lewisandlovecraft@gmail.com

In this episode, Janina Arndt and Lucy Atkinson from The Fey Fellows podcast return for a chat about ghost stories.We discuss what ghost stories are, their core features and how to write them. We also look at a few of our favourite examples and explore the influence they've had on the fantasy genre.Get in touch: thefantasywriterstoolshed@gmail.comTo access exclusive interviews, discussions, fantasy writing classes, books and more head over to our Patreon page - https://www.patreon.com/TheFantasyWritersToolshed If you're interested in some of my quick, easy-to-understand fantasy writing classes, head here - https://richiebilling.com/fantasy-writing-classesFANTASY WRITING RESOURCES6 Cool Notebooks For Writers - https://richiebilling.com/best-notebooks-for-writersReligion In Fantasy Fiction - https://richiebilling.com/fantasy-writing/religion-in-fantasyHow To Make A Fantasy Map - https://richiebilling.com/fantasy-writing/how-to-make-a-fantasy-mapJOIN OUR WRITING COMMUNITYJoin our community here - https://mailchi.mp/be6082d43b39/the-writers-toolshed OUR GUESTSJanina Arndt and Lucy Atkinson - The Fey Fellows Podcast - https://www.instagram.com/feyfellowspodcast/ / https://anchor.fm/fey-fellows-podcastSounds and editing by Odysy - https://www.youtube.com/c/Odysyx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Notes:Definitions:- Fantasy is a sub-genre of speculative fiction involving magical elements, typically set in a fictional universe and sometimes inspired by mythology and folklore. Its roots are in oral traditions, which then became fantasy literature and drama.- Science fiction is a sub-genre of speculative fiction that typically deals with imaginative and futuristic concepts such as advanced science and technology, space exploration, time travel, parallel universes, and extraterrestrial life.The Verbivore reads two quotes towards the beginning of the episode. They are:- “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” - science fiction author Arthur C. Clarke- “Any magic that is sufficiently systematized is indistinguishable from science.” - science fantasy writer N. K. JemisinThe Verbivore talks about a conversation between James Cameron and George Lucas about if Star Wars is science fiction on James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction series. George Lucas has said previously, "Star Wars isn't a science-fiction film, it's a fantasy film and a space opera."Here are some articles and videos that we found helpful in preparation for this conversation:- MasterClass Article “What Is Science Fiction Writing? Definition and Characteristics of Science Fiction Literature”- MasterClass Article "What Is the Fantasy Genre? History of Fantasy and Subgenres and Types of Fantasy in Literature”- Medium Article by Simon Dillon - “Why Star Wars Is Not Science Fiction”- Inverse Article by Ryan Britt - “IS STAR WARS SCI-FI OR FANTASY? HOW GEORGE LUCAS CHANGED “SCIENCE FICTION”- Nnedi's Wahala Blogspot - “Africanfuturism Defined” - YouTube Video “N. K. Jemisin Teaches Fantasy and Science Fiction Writing | Official Trailer | MasterClass”Masterclasses Mentioned:- N. K. Jemisin Teaches Fantasy and Science Fiction WritingBooks and Movies Mentioned:Star Trek 10-Movie Stardate CollectionStar Wars: The Skywalker Saga Complete Box SetJames Cameron's Story of Science FictionAurora Rising by Amie Kaufman and Jay KristoffInterWorld (InterWorld Trilogy, 1) by Neil Gaiman and Michael ReavesSix of Crows by Leigh BardugoThe Fifth Season by N. K. JemisinBinti by Nnedi OkoraforMexican Gothic by Silvia Moreno-GarciaMusic from: https://filmmusic.io ‘Friendly day' by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) Licence: CC BY (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

In this episode, we discuss the incredible influence that Dungeons and Dragons (DnD) has had on the fantasy genre. From inspiring people to write their own stories to influencing and developing fantasy tropes, DnD's contribution cannot be denied. And Janina Arndt and Lucy Atkinson from The Fey Fellows podcast are here to explain it all. Has Dungeons and Dragons inspired your own writing? If so, write in and tell us at thefantasywriterstoolshed@gmail.com.HOW TO EDIT A NOVEL WORKSHOPSign up for free here - https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/how-to-edit-a-novel-a-free-creative-writing-workshop-tickets-317623208567To access exclusive interviews, discussions, fantasy writing classes, books and more head over to our Patreon page - https://www.patreon.com/TheFantasyWritersToolshed If you're interested in some of my quick, easy-to-understand fantasy writing classes, head here - https://richiebilling.com/fantasy-writing-classesLearn more about the podcast - https://richiebilling.com/welcome/the-fantasy-writers-toolshed-podcast RESOURCESHow To Avoid Fantasy Tropes and Cliches - https://richiebilling.com/fantasy-writing/how-to-avoid-fantasy-tropes-clichesOverused Cliches In Fantasy - https://richiebilling.com/fantasy-writing/poll-overused-character-tropes-in-fantasyJOIN OUR WRITING COMMUNITYJoin our community here - https://mailchi.mp/be6082d43b39/the-writers-toolshed OUR GUESTSJanina Arndt and Lucy Atkinson from the Fey Fellows Podcast - https://www.instagram.com/feyfellowspodcast/Sounds and editing by Odysy - https://www.youtube.com/c/Odysyx See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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My good buddy Ben hopped on the show to discuss things we like / dislike about Fantasy books, how to do good word building, and diversity in fantasy Ben is extremely intelligent and well versed in the Fantasy genre, so tune in for his good talking points alone. Also: there are heavy spoilers for Mistborn and Lies of Locke Lamora in this episode- so be warned!

Support the show on patreon for exclusive bonuses! www.patreon.com/wizardswarriorswords . What is grimdark fantasy, and what do our hosts think about it? Our books are often labelled as 'grimdark' (especially Michael R. Fletcher's), so how do we respond to this? For more about our hosts and our books: Dyrk Ashton: paternusbooks.com Michael R. Fletcher: michaelrfletcher.com Rob J. Hayes: robjhayes.co.uk Jed Herne: jedherne.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/wizardswarriorswords/support

Join us this week as we discuss some of the downfalls of the Sci-fi and Fantasy book community, including this year's Hugo Awards controversy with George RR Martin. We get into the racist, sexist and exclusionary aspects of the genre and where they began, as well as taking a deep dive into how they affect todays's readers and writers alike. You can find us on the following social media platforms for more. Please leave us a review and rating if you like what you hear! Twitter: @NrdAlternative Instagram: @TheNerdAlternative Reddit: The Nerd Alternative

The Fantasy Inn is rather fond of fantasy books... it's in the name. But when and why do we read outside the fantasy genre? After all, there are so many truly incredible books out there. Please note that our reading skews toward fantasy, so this is not an episode that extensively explores other genres. Instead, we examine our reading habits, the appeal of other genres, and why we sometimes find it difficult to read outside our comfort zones. Note on Acronyms: We mention "TBRs" multiple times throughout this episode, which refers to "To Be Read" lists... essentially a list that some readers create to organize the books they plan to read in the future. Books Mentioned: Chaos Vector by Megan E. O'Keefe A Blade So Black by L.L. McKinney Severance by Ling Ma A Week to be Wicked by Tessa Dare Buried Deep by Margot Hunt Vita Nostra by Maryna and Serhiy Dyachenko The Family Upstairs by Lisa Jewell Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo The House of Spirits by Isabel Allende The Eighth Life: (for Brilka) by Nino Haratischwili The Traitor Baru Cormorant by Seth Dickinson The Unwomanly Face of War: An Oral History of Women in World War II by Svetlana Alexievich The Secret History of Wonder Woman by Jill Lepore Cinnamon and Gunpowder by Eli Brown Big Little Lies by Liane Moriarty Lost Children Archive by Valeria Luiselli What Kings Ate and Wizards Drank by Krista D. Ball 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed by Eric H. Cline Find Us Online: Blog Discord Twitter Instagram Support Us: Become a Patron Buy Us a Coffee Music: Intro: "The Legend of Iya" courtesy of https://philter.no Outro: "A Quest Unfolds" courtesy of https://philter.no The blog post accompanying this episode can be found at https://thefantasyinn.com, along with fantasy book reviews, author interviews, and more fantasy content.

Have you ever had someone ask you what you did and lose all interest when you say you write fantasy? What is with that? A strange prejudice lingers around fantasy writing and writers. In this episode, Autumn and Jesper discuss why there is a perception fantasy writers aren't "real" writers, some facts and stats on fantasy stories and writers, why the perception might be changing, and what to do if you encounter it! As we mention in the show, TODAY is release day for our three new books on developing story ideas, and plotting. Pick them up at: Plot Development: A Method for Outlining Fiction - https://books2read.com/Plot-Development  Plot Development Step by Step: Exercises for Planning Your Book - https://books2read.com/PlottingWorkbook Story Idea: A Method to Develop a Book Idea - https://books2read.com/StoryIdeas Tune in for new episodes EVERY single Monday. SUPPORT THE AM WRITING FANTASY PODCAST! Please tell a fellow author about the show and visit us at Apple podcast and leave a rating and review. Join us at www.patreon.com/AmWritingFantasy. For as little as a dollar a month, you'll get awesome rewards and keep the Am Writing Fantasy podcast going.   Read the full transcript below. (Please note that it's automatically generated and while the AI is super cool, it isn't perfect. There may be misspellings or incorrect words on occasion).   Narrator (2s): You're listening to the am. Writing fantasy podcast in today's publishing landscape, you can reach fans all over the world. Query letters are a thing of the past. You don't even need an literary agent. There is nothing standing in the way of making a living from writing. Join two best selling authors who have self published more than 20 books between them now onto the show with your hosts, Autumn Birt, and Jesper Schmidt. Jesper (30s): Hello, I am Jesper Autumn (31s): and I'm Autumn. Jesper (34s): This is episode 84 of the am writing fantasy podcast. And today's episode was actually inspired by something that you came across on the internet. Autumn. It was, this was another debate that I hear a lot. And actually just, just last week, ended up with this kind of impression from somebody. And it's like, Oh, you're a writer. What are your right? Oh, you write fantasy. Autumn (1m 1s): It is, you know, that condescending tone. And, and I've been dealing with it my whole life, because I've always, since I was like three, I wanted to be an artist. Since I found out that there was such a thing as people who draw for a living, that's what I wanted to do. And in, I don't know about the rest of the world, but there's a term in the U S that people, especially in the eighties, just to go like, Oh, artsy, fartsy, like it's less, it's a less of a career. Like somehow Leonardo DaVinci was a hack. Autumn (1m 34s): I told him no Rembrandt shouldn't have been born. I don't know it's and I've had it my whole life. And it's gotten under my skin. I will admit it. This is one of my pet peeves. And so I'm so excited about this episode, because if someone has ever said this to you and whether, you know, Oh, you're a fantasy writer. And then of course my favorite comeback, I have relatives and friends who have said, well, if you want to write a really good story, I've got a great one for you. If anyone has ever said that to you, dear listener, this episode has the answers for you. Jesper (2m 11s): Yeah. And I actually wrote down what the, you know, you sent me a screenshot of what this stuff do from Randy's actually wrote it down just to remember it. So I can just quote it here, what it was. So it was this college professor who had sat at a writing class quote, welcome to creative writing. And by the way, you will not write fantasy ghost stories, paranormal or science fiction in this class as this is a creative writing class and quote. Autumn (2m 41s): So I don't know what in the world this professor has to do, but in today's episode, we'll explore why some looked down upon defense is stronger. And maybe we can talk a bit about why instead you should be proud about writing. In fact, in the fantasy show. Absolutely. I cannot wait, but before we get there, it's been a week. So how have you been? And I do want to give everyone a quick warning. We are finally getting rain in Vermont. It is wonderful. And of course it's coming in the form of thunderstorms. So any extra auditory effects are not intended, but just enjoy the ambience please. Jesper (3m 19s): Yeah. Well, at least right now, I can't hear anything of that sort. Let's see. Okay. Maybe we'll get a loud thunder. All of them Autumn (3m 28s): We'll switch to a horror genre or a thriller or something. But anyway, Jesper (3m 32s): Yeah. So that's a certain mood. Autumn (3m 35s): It does. So how are things in Denmark? Jesper (3m 38s): No, it's good. It's good. Actually, my wife is not even here. She's in Finland these days because she had to, she had to go and deal with some builders who are currently renovating an apartment that we own up there. So she, she left a couple of days ago and she's gonna come back on Wednesday, but it's, it's really not healthy when she's not around in this house. You know, the boys that I we've already had pizza, ice cream cookies, popcorn and candy. Jesper (4m 11s): You should think that she's been away for a week, but it's just like three days. Autumn (4m 16s): What kind of example are you setting? This is horrible, but it's so funny. It's so typical. Come on. Jesper (4m 23s): Yeah. I don't know where it is. It's like they miss their mom. Right. And then it's like, okay, what can we do to make the time feel a bit better? And they will. They will. Because normally as well, when I do my grocery shopping, normally they of course home with my wife. I usually do the grocery shopping in our family. But because she was traveling, I had to bring them, you know, the, Oh, they're not young kids as such, but they're not old enough to stay home by themselves. The oldest can, but he's not, he's not old enough to take care of he's younger. Jesper (4m 54s): So I had to bring at least a younger, younger boy to the grocery shop, but then they both came. And then when we were there, of course they are looking at, into all the different things. And they were like, Hey, there's a vegan pizza here. We've never really, I've never noticed that there was one in the shop. And I was like, really? And they were like, yeah, yeah, we want to taste this stuff. And then, okay, well then we bought that. And then we, all of a sudden we had pizza, but then we also have to have some yeah. To search. So we've got ice cream and before you know, it, we come home with all kinds of unhealthy stuff. Jesper (5m 26s): So I think it's good that she's returning the day after tomorrow because this is not going to sustain. Autumn (5m 34s): It sounded, I always wanted to do like a college level study that if the reason women live longer than, than men is partially because what meant eat before they end up getting married, that span when they're in college and on their own. And they're drinking beer for breakfast and stale pizza for lunch. That is my theory of why, you know, most men have a shorter life span. So you're not this idea. Jesper (5m 60s): No, I'm not doing a very good job on behalf of all men in the world. I'm also teaching the kids how to do when the wife is not there. That's okay. Autumn (6m 9s): Either. Probably not. But you know, it's going to be fantastic memories. And you know, maybe you'll have some day when maybe they have kids you'll with regeneration, PE male only pizza party or something. And I think it's, Jesper (6m 25s): At least they are saying in the evenings like, Oh, this has been a really nice day. So at least that's good because especially, especially the older one, he tends to miss his mom a lot. So at least it's good that he, you know, some of the candy keeps his mind preoccupied elsewhere. Autumn (6m 43s): Yes. It's working like a charm Jesper (6m 48s): Dude. But how about you? Autumn (6m 50s): Oh, it's been a good busy week. I had some it's so funny. Cause we're going to be time traveling so much today. I've been doing some formatting for the books that we're releasing today. And that made no sense. No, isn't it. It's so strange. But we're recording this almost. We're almost at the car on the cusp of July. So we're almost a month ahead because summer vacations, these things happen. And so yes, it was a good achievement week of getting a whole bunch of long prep. Autumn (7m 23s): All those, all these months, we have said, Hey, we're writing this book, we're putting this together. We're going to release this. We actually have them. I mean, they're on preorder. The formats are done where they're out to the typo Slayer team. We're getting feedback. It's so close. And it's just a weird juxtaposition that we're so close. We're almost releasing it. And in all honesty with your listening on this, the day it's released, no books are out there available. This is so exciting. So I, it is, yeah. Jesper (7m 56s): Is the wonders of a prerecording, a lot of episodes because we want to have some time off during vacation. But, but yeah, if you go to Amazon or any online store where you normally buy your books, then you should be able to find them the, both the plotting book, the workbook associated to the plotting book and the how to do get story ideas and how to build a story premises. So if you just searched for either my name or Autumn's name on those stores, you should pretty much be able to find them quite easily. Jesper (8m 29s): I guess the one thing that we don't know yet is some of the online stores are really weird when it comes to the fact that you are mentioning, for example, Amazon in the back of the book or something. If you write that anywhere, then some stores are really weird about it. For example, Apple is don't like that. So, well, because we're prerecording here. I can't say for sure if some of the stores will end up rejecting the book, but I have, I have a principle that I do not change the content of a book just because Apple don't like it. Jesper (9m 3s): So if they don't like it, it will not be on Apple. You'll have to go somewhere else to find it. But for sure, Amazon it'll be on Amazon for sure. Kobo, it'll be there as well. Google books, it will be there. And then for the rest, I guess we'll have to wait and see how many of them, except the book files at least two or three places. Autumn (9m 24s): Yes. At the very least, if you don't see it in a store, go to am writing fantasy and look for it in the workbooks there because we will be selling it off of our website and you can get it in whatever format you need. So if it's not on iTunes because Apple books as being a bugger, just come and get it from us and we will make sure you have it for whatever reader you choose. Narrator (9m 47s): Oh, a week on the internet with the am writing fantasy podcast. Jesper (9m 52s): So actually thought it was just worth mentioning how the am writing fences. Facebook group just keeps getting better and better Autumn (9m 60s): Rowing and froing. It's been, it's like every time I turn around, there's another six people knocking at the door. Yeah. But I mean, this, this past week I had like in the morning I let in eight people and then in the afternoon it was like, Jesper (10m 12s): What? Now there's a list of six more. I mean, it's crazy. But there was actually at some point in the past where we were speculating to move the group away from Facebook and try something else because the engagement was just very limited at that point in time. But Oh my God, I'm glad we didn't do that. Autumn (10m 30s): No, it's been fantastic. And that's with them, you know, there's a lot of advertisers currently. Okay. We could look at word more recording this. So who knows what August will be, but there's been a lot of advertisers and things pulling from Facebook because of the politics and advertising policies. And it doesn't matter. The group is just outstanding. Jesper (10m 50s): Yeah. And I have to say as well that I really like, and because this doesn't happen in all groups, but I think at this group, people are actually very good at following the rules of not self promoting stuff over the past week. I think I had to delete two posts where people were self promoting, but it does not have happened very often compared to how much that actually gets posted in the group. So I think that's very good. Autumn (11m 16s): Yes. No, I agree. I mean, it's, you're on there more than I am and goodness, our moderator, Luke, a huge shoe shout out to him and you guys handle a lot of the heavy lifting, which I very much appreciate, but it is just, I mean, they're good. If something comes up, people are very good at not overreacting, not going crazy. They'll just, you know, the, let one of us know, say, you know, they'll, you can submit the post saying, Hey, I think there's something wrong with this. And it's been fine, but in general, everyone's so well behaved and so supportive and wonderful feedback. Autumn (11m 51s): And the, the of questions and topics is just amazing. I mean, it's everything from people getting advice to people, pushing bits of stories. It's really got it all. Jesper (12m 5s): Yeah. It's, it's in general, it's a very helpful group with a very positive tone. So if you're the listener have not joined us over there yet, then simply search for am writing fantasy in the group section of Facebook and you will find us and just apply to be let in Autumn (12m 20s): And we'll get to you as soon as we can. Jesper (12m 23s): It might take a bit, but sometimes it takes a couple of days, but we will. Autumn (12m 27s): Don't worry. Yeah. It's not usually that long, but, and I want to give a big shout out. I already mentioned once that the type of Slayer team has been helping us out with our edits and the last reviews for the books. And they have been getting back to us already. I think we just gave it to them. But three, four days ago, people are booking it through some of these books and have great suggestions. So big shout out to everyone who has joined us on the typo Slayer team you guys are doing awesome. Jesper (12m 55s): Yeah, absolutely. I think the ones that we got feedback for so far was the book idea book, which is a very short one. So that's probably why they are so fast, but I will bet you that it'll take awhile before we get feedback on the plodding book, because that's, that's a beast. Autumn (13m 11s): Yeah. We'll have to see if anyone actually goes through the workbook doing the work, then it might take them a while to, Jesper (13m 23s): So we started out with that quote from that crazy college professor before he must be slightly insane. Autumn (13m 31s): What does fantasy not? Or what does create, you know, not creative writing. This is just, it boggles my mind. How is this not creative? I think it's the most creative pursuit out there. Jesper (13m 41s): Yeah. But as well, I have to say he, he's not the only one who has like, I don't know, should we call it certain opinion about the fantasy? Autumn (13m 51s): I think people have a certain opinion about the physical fantasy genre. Yeah. Jesper (13m 56s): Because I feel like in, in writing fantasy, this is something that we are faced with. And also because of that, we have to sort of deal with that problem. If we can call it a problem or whatever, Autumn (14m 8s): At least a perception that it's just, it's pervasive in some ways that, Oh, you're a fantasy Rother. You're not legit. And I have to admit when you look at some of the awards, like for speculative fiction, the Hugo is one of the only awards that are out there. So, you know, there's all these other wonderful awards that other writers can get. But if you want to get to the top, top, top of the food chain and speculative fiction, that's basically the Hugo, you got one spot. Jesper (14m 36s): Yeah, indeed. It's like, usually at least I feel like if I tell people who maybe don't know me or only know me a little, you know, if they sort of ask her, so what do you do if I say that I'm, I'm an author, then they usually get very interested and they want to learn more. That's almost always the reaction I get, you know, people like to hear about what you're writing and what you're doing. And if you then tell them that you write fantasy, then the demeanor sort of changes a bit. Jesper (15m 6s): And all of a sudden you feel like now I have to justify myself for, I mean, it's almost like, Oh, okay. And I don't know why that is, but it just, it happens more often than, yeah. Autumn (15m 18s): I don't think, I don't think there's any fantasy author out there who probably has not experienced that where people are like, Oh wow, you're a writer. That is fantastic. Oh, you're right. Fantasy. I thought you were a real writer. I was like, wow. Really? So it's not real writing. That's I've heard that saying, but yes, I just, I am shocked. I'm really shocked that it's still in all of the movements and progressiveness that we haven't come to. The conclusion that fantasy is still real writing and I'm hoping we can blow that out of the water today. Autumn (15m 54s): At least we will try. Jesper (15m 56s): I don't know. I mean, there is, of course also the, the stigma around fantasy that it's something for nerds and geeks and stuff like that, you know, at least that has been, so when, at least when I was growing up, you know, it was a lot like that over the last 15, 20 years, it was a very much like a nerd and geek environment. Yeah. That's the whole fantasy stuff. I think it's starting slowly though, to become more mainstream. I mean, nowadays we have a stuff like game of Thrones and also the Lord of the rings movies that took to the screen some years back, you know, more like the general population they are becoming increasingly familiar with with, well, basically what the rest of us has known for ages. Jesper (16m 42s): And that is that fantasy is awesome. Yes, Autumn (16m 44s): Absolutely. I do think it came up with almost a whole generation of kids with thanks to Harry Potter books, that it was there. It opened up reading to them in a way that, I mean, reading was dwindling and Harry Potter came out and suddenly there's a surge of reading and it's all in fantasy. And those kids have grown up to their twenties now and they are, you know, some of them have kids and they're bringing them up with all of these stories and fantasy is doing really, really well. Autumn (17m 15s): So I think that is exciting. So I think the perception is changing in the younger generation. I think if I told someone in their twenties that, Hey, I'm a fantasy author and I have met, you know, you know, you've met, you know, social parties and I tend to hang out with the younger kids. I think I've mentally think I'm only in my twenties and maybe it's because I write fantasy and they find out I'm a fancy fantasy author and we have the best conversations and we get so excited. And then you talk to the parents and they're like, Oh, what are you talking about? Oh, you're an author. Oh, you write fantasy. Autumn (17m 45s): It's just like, you know, you hit the brick wall and very ashamed that that perception is still there. But I do think the younger, younger ish generation is going to get rid of that. And it's not going to be such a strange thing. They'll be excited about it. Jesper (18m 4s): Yeah. And maybe it was because in the younger generation or the, the ones who are younger now, at least compared to, I mean, young is relative, but at least compared to us, maybe the younger generation compared to us, they, as you say, grew up with Harry Potter, but to us, the generation we are in, I mean, when I grew up, it was mostly like it was spontaneous and drag and stuff. It was just too Orden. It was well, there was a few fantasy books, like while I read dragon lands back then as well, but there wasn't a lot of it. Jesper (18m 38s): No, really. I mean, it was different. And then over time then of course, well, we get those kind of mainstream trains that just pulled us through everything like, like a Harry Potter or a lot of the rings. And well, a lot of rings was back there as well. Of course, when I grew up obviously, but what was it I said before, like game of Thrones, I think game of Thrones is very oldest. Well, to be honest, I think he wrote it quite a long while back. Jesper (19m 9s): But, but again, I mean a lot of this stuff, if you look at it from a sort of mainstream perspective, it didn't really catch on until maybe within the last say five, six, seven years, Autumn (19m 23s): Maybe 10 years. Maybe I would agree at the outset of 10 years, I would agree that it's, that's where it's become culturally, especially the book part has become culturally accepted and popular where you can go up to somebody on the street and they probably heard of game of Thrones. So, you know, you can talk something fantasy where before it was like, maybe everyone, maybe half the kids in your high school, might've heard of dragon lands. And you know, a small percentage might have read some books of Shannara or the last unicorn or something like that. Autumn (19m 54s): But there were, so it was like a little club and it was much more intimate and quiet where now it is like, literally you go to Starbucks and you can talk to somebody about, Oh, did you know the new Lord? All the drinks series is coming out. You know, people are excited about it and you hear it as a type of conversation. And I do think that is interesting. Jesper (20m 15s): Yeah. I think so too big because basically, yeah, it would be a very small niece of people in your high school back when we grew up, that would actually read the paper. Autumn (20m 26s): It's like the nut club that you really want to read defenses, you books, Jesper (20m 31s): The rings back then it was like the nightclub reading that stuff. Autumn (20m 34s): Yes. But I do think, and I think part of that perception is, I mean, even as a kid, I used to call it brain candy. Cause you know, I was, you know, top of my class and all that other crap doing well in grades. And you know, they had high hopes for me that I became a fantasy author. They're so disappointed. I would call it brain candy. You know, this was, you know, something I read to relax my brain, but I think that's part of the misperception is that there's nothing important and there's nothing true or gritty or real and fantasy. Autumn (21m 9s): And I'm hoping maybe with games of Thrones. So with some of these bigger genres, I mean, they're looking at it as we're going to, I'm going to bring up some stuff today that looking at it from a moneymaking aspect, if people do not take this seriously for that reason alone they're fools. But I think there's a lot more to fantasy. I mean, it taught me a lot of perceptions and things about life and other people that I hadn't yet met and how to hold myself and be openminded because of the fantasy books I read because I was opened up to whole different worlds in different cultures and different ways of meeting people and stuff that you can't pack into this world. Autumn (21m 47s): You can't talk about the Israeli Palestinian conflict without bringing up some kind of grudges and history lessons. But you take that and you put it in a fantasy world and you can unpack it and you can question things and you come out of it changed in a way you can't do when we're stuck and entrenched in our own cultural values. And I don't think there's any other genre really, that can do that as well as fantasy. And for me, I feel bad now that I spent so much time jokingly calling it brain candy because, Oh my goodness, you can teach people. Autumn (22m 18s): You can open up their minds to so much stuff through fantasy that I don't think other cultures or John Rose can really enable you to do. Jesper (22m 27s): Yeah. I don't know if this is true, but I also feel like now that if we sort of go with the premise here that that fantasy has become a bit more mainstream nowadays, I feel like those who still looked down upon the fantasy genre isn't as much anymore, your average reader. I think instead nowadays it's very often those who are closely associated with writing programs and stuff like that. Do you think I'm right in that? Jesper (22m 57s): Or Autumn (22m 58s): I think in many ways you're right. Like the incident I had just last week was more like, Oh, well, you know, my friend who's in publishing this advice and I was just like, wow, you know what? I've been in publishing since 2012. So good luck to your friend who told you this statement. That is completely not true. I just put it, you didn't take me seriously. And it was either my gender or it was because it was a fantasy author. I'm not sure why, but I didn't unpack it because I really didn't. Autumn (23m 29s): That was my Instagram personality type of, I really don't give a crap. I'm busy, so I don't need his approval. But I do think that there are definitely some writers, but there are also so many conferences and there are a lot of things set up now targeting fantasy. But again, is it because that they truly support the genre or because they see this group that grew up on fantasy that are now in their twenties, in their thirties and they're making money and they love fantasy and they want to write it. So therefore they're going to go ahead and target an audience that is there and willing to pay money to do it. Autumn (24m 3s): I don't know. It's hard. You would have to. I think it's different every case. Jesper (24m 9s): Yeah. But I also think that, you know, those kind of closely at those people closely associated with weed riding probate, it could be the professor from before. Right. But I think a part of it is basically that they compare fantasy genre fiction with literary fiction would stay sort of feel like that's proper writing literary. Right. But, but I don't, I don't understand why we, the whole premise of trying to prove that fantasy have some sort of literary value why we even have to accept that entire premise there, you know, because when somebody frowns upon it and we go into this sort of defense situation, now I need to defend why I'm writing fantasy. Jesper (24m 57s): And I have to explain it. I have to convince them, you know, it's sort of a bit like we insisting on grading fantasy on that same scale. Right. And I don't know, my question is more like, why do we even have to grade it at all? Why do we even have to try to defend the fact that we write fantasy? Why can't we just write fantasy? Because Autumn (25m 19s): We write fantasy. Exactly. I do agree. I don't know why they have, it's a pedestal, you know, there's certain types and certainly certain genres that are considered the true writing. You know, this is the Jane Austin of writing and the Charles Dickens of writing. But I think in the second part of the quote, you know, that, that was from that post I had found, it was just like, you know, these were people who were writing like Charles Dickens was paid per word. These were not high end writers at the time. Autumn (25m 53s): They just have come to us through the classics that now we consider it. But even to Shakespeare was, you know, people, some people hate it and they're throwing tomatoes at him. He was not revered in his time. And now, you know, even token, I think got a lot of flack when he first came out. But now it's just like, Oh my goodness, token, you know, I've met somebody who met him and you're like, Oh, you've touched a toll kid. It gives you chills. You're like, Oh my God, that's so cool. Your real life when he was 11, that was, would have been so awesome. So total fan girl, that is why, again, I agree with you. Autumn (26m 28s): We don't have to compare ourselves to these other genres. These are our own pillars and this is an amazing Gianna. And we create amazing works that they don't know. They're not the same as other things as, as you know, Shakespeare's plays, which I happen to love. And he has some very fantasy ish plays. I did get to see a Midsummer's night dream, which is definitely on the fantasy scale as well as the Tempus. So yeah, those are fantastic plays and this has fantastic writing, but it doesn't have to be, you know, no one else has to write like that anymore. Autumn (27m 3s): It's fine. You can write, you can write piers, Anthony. It's good. Yeah. True. And I actually, I have, I have a question for you and I don't even know what my answer is. Oh. So you're going to throw it on me. So I'm just going to throw it at you and see what you say, because I don't know yet. Oh, alright. I'm ready. Let's go. Okay. Okay. But do you think that fantasy Isha showing right that you either love it or you hate it? Autumn (27m 34s): Yes. 3 (27m 37s): Okay. Thank you. Autumn (27m 41s): Doesn't yes or no? No. I would say yes. And the first thing that popped to mind is my mom who has read my first, my debut novel. And she said, it wasn't bad for fantasy. So listen, Beth, she loves me anyway. But, and I definitely, I mean, even in my own family, I have struggled with the perception that I am doing well, and this is what I'm doing because I like it. I like I've mentioned, I've had cousins or aunts who have said, Oh, well, if you want a real story, if you want to write a real story, I've got the best idea. Autumn (28m 13s): And you know, I would be a little bit catty going, Oh, you should write it. Good luck. You know, there's a lot more to writing than just saying, I have a good idea because believe me, if everyone who had a good idea was writing, wow. I mean, there are a lot of books, but there'll be a lot more books. But I do think that fantasy is definitely, there's very little gray. It's you either love it. And you tend to love it passionately. Even if it's just a subsection, like you've loved vampires or you love zombies or you love just something about it. Autumn (28m 43s): It really gets it. It's like in your blood. And if it's not there, it's just kinda like whole-home lackluster. I mean, I, I like scifi, but I don't love scifi. If there's no fantasy element, there's no magic. And you know, star Wars is good, but I like it because it's a forest. So, you know, there's something else there I cowboy, you know, count, you know, there's a few genres that are okay. But I think when it comes to books, it's sorta like art. You either get it or you don't get it. Autumn (29m 14s): And I do think there's a large perception who just don't get fantasy, but there's a large group that is now just ground swelling that does get fantasy and does love it. And they want something magical in this world. So they're looking for this and it's giving them something else because it's either this or post-apocalyptic dystopian tales. Do you want to read? Yeah. I quite like science fiction as well. Jesper (29m 42s): I prefer fantasy over science fiction, but I do quite like science fiction because I also think that like fantasy science fiction offers a lot of escapism. You know, it's just those kinds of when, when you're in a different world in a completely different setting, that that's the sort of things that I, that I really like and science fiction can do that as well. But most of the times certain fictions don't have dragons. Autumn (30m 5s): That's a download. I know it's a total shame and I've even written a few short shines fiction-y tails. But I just, I don't know. I come back to the magic and the characters and the world. And I just there's something there that I adore though. It is funny. Cause you how you mentioned escapism. I mean, some of the most poignant readers who have gotten back to me in the stories I remember from readers are the ones who said, you know, I've been recovering from this or I've been in the hospital and I found your book. And I just, there was one woman who has read everything except like one of the most recent stories. Autumn (30m 39s): And she was apologizing for like, not giving a review, but she had just gotten diagnosed with breast cancer. I mean, I just sent her a free book. I'm just like, here you go. Really? It's not just, she's like, I'm going through chemo. It's been really rough. I mean, these are the stories that just stay with me. And it is people who are literally stuck in bad situations. Their body's failing them. They're in pain and they want to book. They want to go to a different world. And that's one reason, not all fantasy is happy, you know, happy escapism. There's definitely ones where, I mean, I look at game of Thrones and so many people die. Autumn (31m 12s): I feel like I could read it. I could finish reading it now because I know which characters I could follow, but I can't finish reading it. Yeah. Yeah. Because George RR Martin isn't done. But as soon as he finishes, I'll consider it again. Instead of finishing it, I can read it in five years time or something like that when I'm, when I have more time on my hands, but Jesper (31m 31s): I am. And when he was done reading it, writing it again in five years from now, Autumn (31m 35s): It might be. But yeah, I mean, I think that's why I'm drawn to Nobel bright, which has a new, it's a new term for the fantasy where the heroes, you know, somehow get through, despite all the odds. And I definitely, that's why I like it is because it is an escapism where good things happen rather than grim dark, where just bad shit happens after, after bad crap. And so it's a tough one to get through. I've read a couple of grim darks and they were fantastic writing, but I know I was walking with the character through the swamp and I'm just like, if this was me in my life, I would just lay here and die because I could not go. Autumn (32m 13s): It was too tough. So that's the light type of fantasy. Jesper (32m 18s): But now, now did you set out all of that? I had a bit of time to think about my answers because, well, actually I started thinking that maybe it is every Shong row is either you hate it or you love it because you know, growing up, my, my mother always told me when I was child, that you need to something, at least once before you turn it down, because otherwise you don't understand what you're turning down. Very true. And, and then I was thinking, could I apply the same thing to reading? Jesper (32m 50s): Meaning for example, I have a notion thinking that I don't like romance books. I don't want to read romance, but I've actually never read a romance novel. So you don't know. So I guess the premise could then be, well then I don't know if I don't like it, then I should try to at least read one novel to check it out. And I could then say the same thing to those who say that they don't like fantasy. Then I could say, well, at least read one novel before you judge it. Autumn (33m 20s): But that's a really good one. That's true. Jesper (33m 22s): Yeah. But that, yeah, because then I'm thinking, okay, if I'm supposed to read one to judge, whether I like to show him around at how do I know that the one that I read is actually strongly representative enough? And how do I know if it's good? I mean, if you go by the bestseller list, I read the way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson, which you must say is a huge, huge bestseller. And Brenda Sanderson is probably one of the biggest fantasy authors. One of them, at least that we have right now, but I did not like way of Kings. Jesper (33m 53s): Wow. I really was not my taste. And I love reading fantasy. So if I gave that to somebody else, somebody else will love. I mean, a lot of people, a lot of people love those books. So that is perfectly fair. My point is more to say, how can you know that if I, for example, picked up a romance book right now and said, okay, I'll give it a try. How can I know that the one that I picked up is just because I didn't quite like that particular one, but maybe I would have liked another one. But then again, when I say all of that, I also feel like, but I don't really, really feel like even yeah. Autumn (34m 29s): You know, it's true. So Jesper (34m 31s): That's why I'm thinking, is it just every show on where, so that either you love it or you hate it, but you don't really feel like trying the other ones, even though you don't really know for sure whether you like it or not Autumn (34m 42s): Follow my logic. I do. And I totally get it because I mean, I, yeah, like I said, there's a lot of genres that are kind of I've maybe I've read them, but you know, they didn't stick. I mean, I read some Nancy drew my best friend growing up, just love Nancy drew. So I tried a couple and that mystery is just not for me. I mean, I really like, I guess a Christie and as I joked, I, I wanna, I want an Agatha Christie book, a hardback, so I can use it as a knife holder in my kitchen. I just think that'd be so much fun, but I even Stephen King, I like some of his books, but his favorite ones are his fantasy ones. Autumn (35m 18s): His horror ones don't do much for me. And I think that's fair. And there's a lot of fantasy. I love Lord of the rings, but I skimmed through the battle scenes because I just went on forever. They were not fast enough for it. Right. So everyone, as the more you read them, the more discernment you're going to have, like icing. If I went back and read DRA dragon LANSA I think I would have a totally different perception now as an adult reading it, then when I was, you know, I read the, Jesper (35m 45s): I read the first book in the drag land series, a what is it like four or five months ago with my sons, because I wanted to read it to them. So I actually read it out loud to them. And I was a bit concerned about what it would feel like to read it as an adult, because I have so far memories of that series because I read it when I was like 12, maybe. So I was really concerned that now I'm going to ruin it for myself. And all my fond memories are going to get destroyed. That it's not that good anyway, but it was actually okay, good. Jesper (36m 17s): But it is not written quite like you write novels today. So, but it was also written in, in a different time. Autumn (36m 28s): I look, I look at that like the Shannara book. So when they turned that into a series, I was ripping my hair out because of, they didn't update some of the tropes and this is just not what people put up with anymore. So I much prefer modern fantasy because it is just varied and has depth. And the character building is so much more in the plotting is so much more, I don't want to go backwards, but I agree. Yeah. It's, it's changed. So I'm glad to know that though it held up. Autumn (36m 58s): Cause I did recently, my first fantasy book was on Pern Anne McCaffrey. And I recently re-read the first dragon flight and I cannot finish a review on good reads because I just, I have such fond memories of the book and the stories. And I read the book and I'm like, I'm glad I don't have a daughter. Cause I would not let her read this because of a man treated her the way that is okay. In this book, I would be like, you're going to jail. So it was so sexist. Autumn (37m 30s): It was horrible, but it was written in what the seventies. So I understand it from that. But looking back, I'm like, wow, this shaped my formative years. Seriously. That's horrible. I prefer stick to modern day fantasy. It's much better, much, much better. Jesper (37m 47s): Yeah. I guess we could say that. But at the same time, I also feel like, I feel like there there's a logic to this fact that we just love some stuff and we hate other stuff. And we're not really that willing to cross that bridge and try something else. But I can see the logic in that argument, but at the same time saddens me slightly because it's like, so none of us, and I'm looking at myself here because I'm not taking my own medicine that, you know, none of us is willing to try some other stuff out that we just keep reading the same moment. Jesper (38m 19s): But this is also why we keep talking about, and there's going to be a lot about this by the way in the self publishing course, once we release that later this year, but this is also why when you're creating your covers and all that stuff that you go with, the stuff that people expect, you don't try to be fancy. You don't to show them something new that they've never seen before on the cover or whatever. You just give them what they want because that's what they want to buy. But, and I understand all of that. I understand the marketing mechanisms of it. I understand why we have to do it. But at some level in my creative heart somewhere, it, it hurts me a bit as well as it's like, it's a shame. Autumn (38m 56s): It is a shame. But I do think with the TV shows and things like that, that are out there, more people are going to be introduced to fantasy. Even if it's through a show and they're going to maybe go on to find authors and try it out. So they're going to be exposed to it. Where before, before we got the CGI effects and some of the amazing things they can do with film these days that, you know, they were never even exposed to it. I remember, I don't know what it was like in Denmark, but for dragon lands in the United States, if you were in the Bible belt, which is where I grew up, it was a ton of, I mean, I had to hide these books from my parents. Autumn (39m 35s): I like got them from a friend of a friend just in the library. Oh, you're so lucky. No. If, if I hadn't had a friend who moved in from out of town who gave him to us, I would not have been able to touch them. You thought my fingers were going to ignite. They were very bad. And then you read them and you're like, seriously, you think this is bad. You should have you ever read Lolita? I mean, this is bad. So this, this was shocking, but yeah, this is a horrible perception. So back then, you know, it was a very strict mindset. Autumn (40m 7s): And nowadays, you know, my parents have heard of game of Thrones at least. So they're much more exposed to it. And not just because of me as her daughter. So I think that there's at least a more, there's more gateways. It's a little there's gateway. Drugs of game of Thrones. Jesper (40m 26s): Yeah. That is actually true. And it, what you just said reminded me as well, that when game of Thrones were sort of at its highest, when, when the whole series was going, I was in the office at the day job one day and I share office with a guy who's probably like 10, 15 years older than me. And he was like, so what are you watching these days? Usually, actually, we, we like to share what we're watching. Jesper (40m 56s): So I said, well, we're watching game of Thrones. And he said that stuff with the dragons and stuff, isn't it. I said, yes. And I told him it's the best. And he said, really? I said, yeah, you should try it. And then he said, well, I don't, I don't like all the drag and stuff. He's older. Right. He's a bit different than, than that point of view. And I said, well, no, no, but there's so much more, there's so much depth in this stuff. There's a lot of politics as well. There's Wars going on, you just try it out, try and watch it. And then I think a couple of weeks later when I came back to the office and he was like, Hey, I actually tried out that game of Thrones series. Jesper (41m 31s): And he said, my wife doesn't want watch it, but I love Autumn (41m 34s): It. That's fantastic. And we converted one and that's actually, that's what I want to get to too, because, so, you know, maybe people don't like, and they don't want to try it. And so there's no way of getting rid of that attitude and you can let it roll off your back and just be the better person. Or you can come back with some stats and I like stats, so, Oh, I've got a question for you. So in the top 50 movies, and we're talking about grossing movies, so the top 50 grossing movies of all time, as of even counting since COVID, so this is shutting down in may when COVID hit and they stopped counting this stuff. Autumn (42m 14s): How many do you think of the top 50 are fantasy related and I will give you a caveat. Do you count Jurassic park as fantasy or as not fantasy? Not okay. I wasn't sure. I mean the whole, I mean, it's there and it's not there. I think dragons, dinosaurs it's very close, but okay. So that changes it slightly. So how many books, Jesper (42m 33s): How many of the top 50 are you can make me look really stupid here. Autumn (42m 40s): Hey, you asked me a yes, no question. You had no answer for us. So this is come back. Well, we'll at least Jesper (42m 47s): My question was sort of an opinion question. This is like, Autumn (42m 51s): Okay. Okay. Well go for higher, low that if you want to be easy. Right? Jesper (42m 56s): Okay. So in the top 50 movies of all time, you mean in the city Autumn (43m 2s): Up until May 19th or something that shut down the cinemas in the United States, that's when they really stopped catching counting. And this was straight off Wikipedia. So this is like, you know, pretty current. Jesper (43m 14s): Okay. But I can only go with my gut feeling and I can be completely off here because actually I have no idea, but my gut feeling is that it's probably not as many as one might think. So I will say 10 or less. Autumn (43m 34s): You are completely abroad. Absolutely. The opposite out of the top 56 movies are not fantasy there's Titanic, like furious seven of a few other, like I mentioned, the Jurassic park is in there, but almost everything else ever Ginger's end game avatar, star Wars. Okay. I'm counting star Wars just because OSI fantasy science fiction. Yeah. I'm counting that. Autumn (44m 4s): But I mean, if you go by that and then there's a lot of the Disney ones I see where Disney puts out movies, but I mean, Avengers end game was two point seven billion million, 2.7 million. Jesper (44m 15s): But are we a bit lenient with how we classify fantasy right now? Or Autumn (44m 20s): I'm being lenient in the scifi fantasy, but just to give people, if I went through again, that's when you get into the Disney, are you going to count Disney as fantasy? Like kind of Disney movies Jesper (44m 32s): Are frozen. Are we talking? Autumn (44m 35s): I mean, I think frozen is total. She just got, yeah. I would say that's fine. Yeah. So, I mean, I'd have to go through if you wanted to count out some of the other ones, but I counted most of them. Like you would consider kids ones incredible. Give me like three, four examples there. Okay. Incredibles, which is definitely, I mean, a lot of these are based on superhero, almost every superhero and captain American Lord of the rings, Spiderman, Avengers, black Panther. Okay. We skipped Jurassic park, so we have to skip that one, but that's really like, there's a lion King too. Autumn (45m 9s): I don't know where that one would fit talking lions. Hmm. Jesper (45m 14s): Yeah. It's not really fantasy aside. At least not as the way I think of fantasy. Autumn (45m 18s): Yes. But, but it's still, if someone wants to argue, I mean, it's still a way over top of them. Yeah. I was gonna say, yeah. Jesper (45m 26s): Even if we say it's yeah, indeed. I mean, even if we say it's just 30 out of 50, that's still a lot. It's a lot. I did not think that. Autumn (45m 35s): Yeah. It's a lot more than I really, I was expecting a list of movies that were, you know, not even close that you could at least say how to shade a fantasy. These all do a lot of them do. So that was really surprising to me. And so that's one of the first one. And then I also looked up the top 20 books of all time, bestselling books of all time. And I looked at three different lists from Wikipedia book, cave, other web, you know, one that likes to keep things. Autumn (46m 8s): And they're all very similar. And out of the top 20, I won't put you on the spot again, but out of the top 20 books, only nine of them. So nine of them are not fantasy. So again, over 50% are fantasy. So we have almost every Harry Potter, Harry Potter just hit the Jesper (46m 28s): Right. That's the tough spots all over. Autumn (46m 31s): Surprisingly, not Don OT is the number one bestselling book of all time. Of course they took out. They, they say the Bible is actually the top one. We won't say if that's fantasy or not. So we'll skip that. But, and then there's actually a Chinese dictionary, which I don't think that's fair to put in there, but that Lord of the rings is number four, little Prince is number five. It's one of the best selling books of all time. And then we get into Harry Potter. There's one Agatha Christie, which is mystery. The rest of them. You know, DaVinci code is also up there, but again, not, not quite fantasy, but at least goes into the mystery side of it. Autumn (47m 6s): Yeah. But yeah, all the Harry Potter is Lord of the rings, the line, the, which, the wardrobe, the Hobbit, those are all in the top 20 best selling books of all time. So again, amazing. Look, this is over 50%. So everything else is a, you know, a dash of this and a dose of that, but solid 50% on true hardcore fantasy. So that's again amazing. And then I had to look up one, we'll close out with two more stats. So I wanted to look up a J K Rowling's just to see what was said about her and what her net worth. Autumn (47m 39s): So they consider her net worth right now at a billion dollars. She denies that she has that much. But what I thought was really interesting was this sentence, and that is JK. Rollings is one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom and the first author in the world to achieve a net worth of $1 billion. That is not by genre. That is the first author in the world in any genre to be achieved. Autumn (48m 10s): 1 billion was a fantasy author, not a woman. So I thought that was fantastic. And I mean, alone, they said the last two, Harry Botter ha her last two Harry Potter books, Harry Potter and the half blood Prince and Harry Potter and the deathly Hallows. So nine and 11 million copies within 24 hours of their release, nine and 11 million copies. So yes, when someone says, Oh, you write fantasy, you go, yeah. Are you kidding? Autumn (48m 41s): But I also want to touch on because we've mentioned game of Thrones. So George RR Martin, I looked him up very quickly too. And so he is obviously made a bundle and of course, everyone loves that. He he's still living. Like I say, a very frugal lifestyle. So he earns because from his books, from his writing, he has an estimated net worth of $65 million and earns about $15 million per year. Autumn (49m 11s): He's not the number one highest paid author though. James Patterson is considered that he is at 95 million, but he is really, really up there. So yeah, I, you know, could you handle making $15 million a year because you're a fantasy author. Jesper (49m 28s): I can do one that's okay. Autumn (49m 30s): Yeah. You know what? I can take a million a year too. So I think that'd be fine. But once you, to me, it's like, once you look at the stats, when you look at the best performing movies, I didn't even get to the best performing T sheet TV shows. I got sidetracked. But when you look at what is being made, what is making money, why they're making money because people are going out there and watching it. So yeah, the next time someone asks me like, Oh, you're a fantasy author play. Cool. Hell yeah. This is where of it is people. This is a fantastic genre and you don't need an excuse. Autumn (50m 2s): You should be proud of it. This is a one that is popular and makes money. People are craving. Well, of course, why wouldn't I write in it? I don't need to, I don't need a better reason than that. Yeah. Jesper (50m 14s): I think for me, the main takeaway out of all of this is really that we should just leave other people to their opinions. You know, we should just stop feeling like we have to justify why we write what we love at all. And it's very true. We're not hurting anyone if they don't like it, go and read something else. I really feel like we could defend it. We could say, well, do you know how much money a J K Rowling owns? Jesper (50m 45s): Do you know how great the song res and yes, it, I think those are all good and valid arguments, valuable arguments. And it's good to be aware of those steps that you mentioned. I think that it, I think it's very interesting if nothing else, but I almost as well want to say, maybe we should just stop defending it and just like, yeah, that's what I write because I love it. That's it? I think that'd be a very good place to be in, but until then, I would do not mind telling people. Jesper (51m 18s): I like it because it makes money too. Fair enough. Alright. So next Monday, we are going to revisit the topic of Permafree books because autumn took her book free off Permafree. So we're going to analyze how that, Narrator (51m 37s): If you like what you just heard, there's a few things you can do to support the am writing fantasy podcast. Please tell a fellow author about the show and visit us at Apple podcast and leave a rating and review. You can also join Ottoman Yesper on patrion.com/and writing fantasy for as little as a dollar a month. You'll get awesome rewards and keep the M writing fantasy podcast going, stay safe out there and see you next Monday.

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