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Tara is joined by political strategist Nathan Daschle, and they begin their conversation by talking about RFK Jr.'s presidential campaign and shining a light on how both the Biden and Trump camps are attempting to define him. They then examine the big issues motivating voters in 2024, notably immigration and abortion, and discuss how they will influence the big swing state political races. For more of Tara's reporting, please sign up for her newsletter, ‘The Best and the Brightest,' at puck.news/tarapalmeri and use the discount code TARA20 Host: Tara Palmeri Guest: Nathan Daschle Producer: Chris Sutton Production Supervision: Conor Nevins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On the occasion of National Influenza Vaccination Week, former Senate Majority Leader Thomas Daschle, chair of the Coalition to Stop Flu, joins us to discuss the Coalition's mission and composition, its recent compelling report, ‘The 2022-2023 Influenza Season: Outcomes and Policy Recommendations,' and the comprehensive legislation it has had a hand in crafting and advancing, The Influenza Act (S. 3219, H.R. 5846 – 118th Congress 2023-2024). Senator Daschle is alarmed by the decline in vaccination levels – a national security threat – combined with the spread of mis and disinformation and the urgent imperative to forge new communications capabilities to rebuild trust and confidence. Trusted messengers, new public-private partnerships, determined and collaborative leadership, additional resources, and hard work: these are essential elements for turning things around. Health equity must also be elevated as a top priority, with a special focus on the elderly, pregnant women, children, and racial and ethnic minorities. Much more work is needed to improve testing capacity and develop new antivirals for flu. 

Bienvenidos a un nuevo directo desde el canal de Telegram de UTP Ramón Valero. En esta ocasión vamos a hablar de algo de lo que no hablamos oído nunca y que nos comentó un participante en el último directo. El Food chain reaction o traducido al castellano “Reacción en cadena alimentaria”. Se trata de una simulación o juego llevado a cabo en 2015 para simular lo que pasaría con la cadena alimentaria en un próximo futuro. Pero antes debemos hablar del Codex Alimentarius o “Código Alimentario” que como dice la ONU en su página oficial “es un conjunto de normas, directrices y códigos de prácticas aprobados por la Comisión del Codex Alimentarius. La Comisión, conocida también como CAC, constituye el elemento central del Programa Conjunto FAO/OMS sobre Normas Alimentarias y fue establecida por la FAO y la Organización Mundial de la Salud (OMS) con la finalidad de proteger la salud de los consumidores y promover prácticas leales en el comercio alimentario.” Estas normas empezaron en 1963 y son de obligado cumplimiento en prácticamente todo el mundo. Codex incide en tu salud a través de las “directrices” que está creando para la alimentación en forma de suplementos, organismos genéticamente modificados en productos alimenticios, fórmulas infantiles, aditivos alimentarios y muchas otras cuestiones relacionadas. Sin embargo, los principales medios de comunicación ni siquiera mencionan este tema extremadamente importante. Ninguno de los expertos que ha elaborado y puesto en práctica estas normas ha sido elegido democráticamente y la ciudadanía apenas ha sido informada de que la forma en que interactuamos con la comida viene determinada por la ONU. En esta simulación o juego, como le dicen ellos, veremos a muchos expertos que proceden de estos mismos ámbitos. Lo primero que nos debe llamar la atención es que la página web oficial creada para albergar dicho evento y que estuvo funcionando perfectamente desde antes de 2015 desapareció entre abril y junio de 2020 justo con el COVID. Parece que dos tragipandemias no podían representarse a la vez. Curiosamente en la conclusión del evento se dice que “La nueva normalidad es la volatilidad”. ¿Les suena lo de nueva normalidad y esto se dijo en 2015? En la descripción del podcast en Ivoox os dejare todos los enlaces para que podáis comprobar esto por vosotros mismos. La segunda cosa que me ha llamado la atención es que el pdf que elaboraron y que se titula “Reacción en la cadena alimentaria—Un juego de seguridad alimentaria global” sigue en la red con total disponibilidad y en su primera página pone “autorizado para su publicación pública y distribución ilimitada”. O sea, esperan que nosotros les hagamos su trabajo de publicidad. La tercera pata que me hace sospechar que estamos ante un trabajo de inteligencia militar para crear una operación psicológica a gran escala es el hecho de que esta simulación la haya creado una organización llamada CNA. CNA es como ellos mismos se definen “una organización independiente y sin fines de lucro de investigación y análisis dedicada a la seguridad de la nación” refiriéndose a los Estados Unidos que se dedica a abordar cuestiones militares en el Centro de Análisis Navales, o sea desde el propio ejército. La investigación de operaciones en los Estados Unidos fue iniciada por Philip Morse, el fundador de la CNA, durante la Segunda Guerra Mundial. Este tipo de organizaciones son parte fundamental en los engranajes que mueven el mundo y podemos leer en su web que “los líderes federales, estatales y locales confían en el análisis independiente de la CNA mientras abordan sus desafíos más difíciles, desde eliminar los prejuicios raciales en la actuación policial hasta preparar a los socorristas para desastres naturales y epidemias”. Este juego de seguridad alimentaria mundial fue un ejercicio de planificación teórica con 65 "líderes de opinión" y responsables políticos celebrado en noviembre de 2015 en Washington DC. Durante el ejercicio se mencionó que: “La 'Nueva Normalidad' es la volatilidad”. ¿Os suena lo de no tendrás nada pero serás feliz? “Los actores eran importantes líderes empresariales, académicos, funcionarios y burócratas de una dirección interconectada que al final representaba una serie de intereses corporativos y estatales entrelazados. Los jugadores procedían de entidades del Estado profundo como el Grupo Albright Stonebridge ; medios corporativos Thomson Reuters , Bloomberg News ; Carter Ham , ex comandante del Comando de África de Estados Unidos ; think tanks como el Cato Institute , el Aspen Institute y varios think tanks y universidades europeos. También participaron actores de lugares como el Consejo Empresarial Brasil-Estados Unidos , el Consejo Empresarial Estados Unidos-India , el Banco Mundial y el Banco Asiático de Desarrollo. Los cárteles del comercio de alimentos estaban presentes con Louis Dreyfus Commodities y Cargill . La red de Bill Gates estuvo representada a través de la Alianza para una Revolución Verde en África y presumiblemente por otras entidades. La simulación se centró en el período 2020 a 2030 durante una crisis alimentaria mundial. Los equipos de participantes representaban a gobiernos, instituciones y empresas que tuvieron que responder a una crisis alimentaria global causada por el crecimiento demográfico, la rápida urbanización , el clima extremo (una palabra de moda para el cambio climático ) y las crisis políticas. Se descubrió que el comercio, el clima y la "seguridad" eran grandes problemas en la seguridad alimentaria mundial. A medida que avanzaba el juego, los equipos se enfrentaron a una "nueva normalidad" caracterizada en gran medida por la volatilidad y la incertidumbre, con los precios de los alimentos aumentando entre un 300% y un 400%. A medida que avanzaba el juego, "una sorprendente convergencia de ideas permitió a los equipos acordar objetivos comunes y participar en actividades complementarias". Al reconocer su influencia sobre las condiciones globales, los actores tomaron medidas y "en el proceso, dieron forma al mundo", donde las soluciones fueron "una colaboración más innovadora entre gobiernos, empresas, sociedad civil e instituciones multilaterales". El ejercicio terminó con la implementación de un impuesto global al carbono. Preveían establecer una nueva entidad coordinadora en el marco de las Naciones Unidas/G20 para crear la capacidad de respuesta. Un actor sugirió el establecimiento de la Organización de Respuesta a Desastres y Ayuda de Emergencia (ORDER). ORDER se caracterizó como una organización humanitaria y no militar de ayuda en casos de desastre que serviría como mecanismo de coordinación para abordar los "desastres inducidos por el cambio climático". En las conclusiones finales, los actores acordaron ampliamente la creación de una nueva Sede Estratégica bajo las Naciones Unidas para coordinar mejor el uso de activos militares y no militares por parte de los estados miembros, y para posicionar previamente materiales en áreas de necesidad anticipada. También acordaron fortalecer las instituciones y autoridades existentes bajo las Naciones Unidas (por ejemplo, el Programa Mundial de Alimentos , la Organización Mundial de la Salud , la Organización para la Alimentación y la Agricultura , el Departamento de Operaciones de Mantenimiento de la Paz, la Oficina del Alto Comisionado para los Refugiados y la Organización Internacional Fondo de Desarrollo Agrícola) y desarrollar una mejor coordinación entre ellos.” Un juego, supuestamente se trataba solo de un juego donde los jugadores se organizaron en ocho equipos. Seis de los equipos representaron a Brasil, China, la Unión Europea (UE), India, Estados Unidos y África continental. El séptimo equipo representó a empresas e inversores, y el octavo equipo representó a instituciones multilaterales (por ejemplo, el Banco Mundial, las Naciones Unidas y las organizaciones no gubernamentales). Llevan jugando con el sistema alimentario ya desde hace mucho, buscando esa reacción en cadena que lo lleve todo al traste. Una de las pruebas para verificar que tan débil es la cadena de suministros de alimentos y otros bienes fundamentales la pudimos ver en mi artículo EL SATANICO PARTO VERDE EN EL CANAL DE SUEZ donde les hablé de toda la simbología oculta. Tras la primavera que es el evento de la fertilidad de la Tierra por excelencia tenemos un buque que antes de adentrarse en el canal ¿del parto? de Suez decide dibujar un pene. Después queda encallado con el bulbo delantero del barco bien clavado en la tierra, en una de las partes más estrechas del canal que obligó a que permaneciera allí 6 días. En dicho artículo les mostraba como las pirámides de Egipto estaban en la misma línea que el punto donde quedó encallado el barco lo cual excede toda casualidad posible. Así que tenemos todos los elementos fundamentales para que se diese un parto, la fertilización de la Tierra por el falo del barco, la inseminación profunda durante seis días, y la liberación de todos esos barcos o parto en luna llena. En este juego se quería comprobar lo fuerte que era la cadena alimentaria y como le afectaba los precios de los alimentos y las oscilaciones de la oferta en medio de un creciente crecimiento demográfico, una rápida urbanización, fenómenos climáticos severos y el malestar social A medida que la gravedad del escenario se profundizaba, los equipos llegaron a la conclusión de que ninguna organización, empresa o nación podría abordar con éxito la seguridad alimentaria mundial, y que las acciones aisladas de cualquier actor, o pequeño grupo de actores, pueden resultar en impactos en cascada. No hace falta ser muy listo para prever que la única solución para que el mundo no enfrentase una hambruna global era utilizar herramientas de gobernanza mundial, entre las que destaca el control de datos a nivel global. Cómo ellos mismos dicen en sus conclusiones: “Compartir información en un entorno transparente es fundamental para construir el sistema de gobernanza compartida necesario para la seguridad alimentaria futura.” Otra de las conclusiones es: “Integrar los problemas de seguridad y las políticas alimentarias.” O lo que es lo mismo crear una policía mundial para esto por ejemplo los jugadores que representaron a la India pidieron el establecimiento de la Organización para la Respuesta a Desastres y Ayuda de Emergencia (ORDER en sus siglas en inglés, o sea orden). También quedó claro que todos los jugadores tenían claro que había que seguir con la pantomima del cambio climático y la volatilidad que produce en los sistemas de energia y por ende en la producción de alimentos. El precio de los impuestos al CO2 es cada vez mayor y con este juego se trata de lograr impuestos a la carne y directamente al carbono, lo que tendría graves consecuencias para la dieta occidental. Parece que como dice el dicho “reunión de pastores, oveja muerta”, este tipo de eventos sirvan realmente para planificar como detener la cadena de suministro y lograr una hambruna mundial, algo que desde luego es lo que parece buscar la elite psicopatocratica para reducir ovejas, perdón, para reducir la población mundial. ………………………………………………………………………………………. Vamos a conocer quienes eran los 65 jugadores: EQUIPO BRASIL Cassia M. Carvalho es la directora ejecutiva del Consejo Empresarial Brasil-Estados Unidos. Geraldo Bueno Martha es ingeniero agrícola por la Universidad de São Paulo, ESALQ (1994), maestría (1999) y doctorado (2003) en Agronomía, con área de concentración en Ciencia Animal y de los Pastos. Luis Augusto de Castro Neves vicepresidente Emérito del Centro Brasileño de Relaciones Internacionales (CEBRI). Anteriormente fue presidente de CEBRI. Neves es presidente del Consejo Empresarial Brasil-China y ex embajador de Brasil en Paraguay (2000-2004), China (2004-2008) y Japón (2008-2010) Francisco G. Neto | Exsecretario de Estado de Agricultura | Empresa Metropolitana de Aguas y Energía SA Marcos Fava Neves Alexandre Meira da Rosa Universidad de Sao Paulo. Gerente, Oficina de Planificación Estratégica y Efectividad en el Desarrollo dentro del BID, banco interamericano del desarrollo. Joel Velasco Banco Interamericano de Desarrollo | Grupo Albright Stonebridge EQUIPO CHINA Jin Zhonghao | WWF­China Sol Ru | Instituto Chino de Relaciones Internacionales Contemporáneas Tang Xinhua | Instituto Chino de Relaciones Internacionales Contemporáneas Wang Jinxia | Centro de Política Agrícola China, Academia de Ciencias de China Wang Zhanlu | ATPC, Ministerio de Agricultura, China Zhang Junhua | Universidad Jiao Tong de Shanghái Zheng Yan | Academia China de Ciencias Sociales EQUIPO ÁFRICA CONTINENTAL Debisi Araba | Miembro, Universidad de Harvard. Director Gerente de AGRF, la principal plataforma catalizadora de Múltiples socios para la transformación de la alimentación y la agricultura en África. Martín Bwalya | Nueva Alianza para el Desarrollo de África (NEPAD) esto viene directamente de la ONU a través de la oficina del asesor especial para Africa. Robin Buruchara | Grupo Consultivo para la Investigación Agrícola Internacional es director de la Alianza Panafricana para la Investigación del Frijol. Adán Gerstenmier | Alianza para una Revolución Verde en África (AGRA) Está financiado por la Fundación Bill y Melinda Gates, así como por la Fundación Rockefeller. George Osure | Fundación Syngenta para la Agricultura Sostenible Ismael Sunga | Confederación de Sindicatos Agrícolas del África Meridional Mphmuzi Sukati | Mercado Común para África Oriental y Meridional EQUIPO UNIÓN EUROPEA Viola von Cramon | Ex portavoz de Asuntos Exteriores europeos & Deportes, Gobierno Federal Alemán Alejandro Cario | adelfos Cristina Chemnitz | Fundación Heinrich Böll /es economista agrícola y doctora de la Universidad Humboldt de Berlín. Dirigió el Departamento de Política Agrícola Internacional de la Heinrich-Böll-Stiftung desde 2007 hasta 2022. Gerard Fuchs, político francés desde 1968 | Fundación Jean Jaurès dicha fundación apunta a “promover el estudio del movimiento obrero y el socialismo internacional, promover los ideales democráticos y humanistas a través del debate de ideas y la investigación, contribuir al conocimiento del hombre y su entorno, realizar acciones cooperativas económicas, culturales y políticas contribuyendo a el crecimiento del pluralismo y la democracia en el mundo”. Tim Benton | Universidad de Leeds, Reino Unido Carlos Godfray | Universidad de Oxford /dirige el Programa de Medio Ambiente y Sociedad de Chatham House. De 2011 a 2016 fue el "campeón" del programa de Seguridad Alimentaria Global del Reino Unido. Lars Hoelgaard | Granja Europa, director general adjunto de la DG Agricultura de la Comisión Europea. Ondřej Liška | Ashoka Europa Central y del Este es un político, analista y consultor checo , presidente del Partido Verde en 2009-2014. Joao Pacheco | JS Pacheco Consultoría Internacional es experto en comunicación integral y gestión de crisis. EQUIPO INDIA Mukesh Aghi | Consejo Empresarial Estados Unidos­ India Yoginder K. Alagh | Universidad Central de Gujarat Ridhika es economista indio y Ministro de Gobierno de la Unión de la India. Fue presidente del Instituto de Gestión Rural Anand (IRMA) de 2006 a 2012. Batra | Federación de Cámaras de Comercio e Industria de la India Nutan Kaushik | Instituto de Energía y Recursos (TERI) Universidad Partha Mukhopadhyay | Centro de Investigación de Políticas Waheguru Pal Singh Sidhu | Brookings India es directora General de la Fundación Amity para la Agricultura y la Alimentación. EQUIPO INSTITUCIONES MULTILATERALES Paula Caballero | Banco Mundial /es la directora ejecutiva de la región de América Latina de The Nature Conservancy (TNC). Es reconocida por haber creado el concepto de los Objetivos de Desarrollo Sostenible de las Naciones Unidas. Dino Patti Djalal ex embajador de Indonesia en Estados Unidos. Se desempeñó como viceministro de Relaciones Exteriores de Indonesia entre julio de 2014 y octubre de 2014.Y desde 2015 es asesor en la Comunidad de Política Exterior de Indonesia una entidad privada de asesoría. Aitor Ezcurra Jefe de División en BID Invest, un banco internacional. Miembro del Grupo del Banco Interamericano de Desarrollo. Cary Fowler | Fondo Mundial para la Diversidad de Cultivos es un agricultor estadounidense y ex director ejecutivo de Crop Trust , que actualmente se desempeña como enviado especial de Estados Unidos para la seguridad alimentaria mundial. Tania Kaddeche | Corporación financiera internacional es la directora de manufactura, agronegocios y servicios de IFC en América Latina y experta en cambio climático. Keokam Kraisoraphong | profesor en la Universidad de Chulalongkorn y escritor de varios libros sobre la alimentación, como por ejemplo “Los rostros futuros de la alimentación y la seguridad alimentaria”. Dan Mullins | CARE Internacional era director de Investigación, Aprendizaje y Promoción del Equipo global de Seguridad Alimentaria y Nutricional de CARE y actualmente miembro de la junta de MCD Global Health. Fulai Sheng | Programa de las Naciones Unidas para el Medio Ambiente Craig Steffensen | Banco Asiático de Desarrollo Jürgen Voegele | Banco Mundial EQUIPO DE NEGOCIOS E INVERSORES Alan Barkema | Apical Economía, LLC ha sido vicepresidente senior de la Reserva Federal. Kris Carlson | Thomson Reuters Dave Crean | MARS, Inc. es vicepresidente de I+D corporativo y director científico de Mars alimento para mascotas. Chico Hogge | Productos básicos de Louis Dreyfus Nigel Mamalis | Productos básicos de Louis Dreyfus Jim Mize | En una de las empresas punteras de empaquetado al vacío Joe Piedra | Cargill Joel Vanderkooi | Compañía Kellogg EQUIPO ESTADOS UNIDOS Rubén Brigety, II | La Universidad George Washington Bruce Cameron | Corporación de Inversión Privada en el Extranjero Dan Glickman | Exsecretario de Agricultura; El Instituto Aspen Sherri Goodman | Consorcio para el Liderazgo Oceánico, exdiputado subsecretario de defensa Jamón Carter | Ex comandante del Comando de África de EE. UU. Luz Andrés | Instituto de Recursos Mundiales Kathleen Merrigan | política estadounidense Subsecretaria de Agricultura de los Estados Unidos desde el 8 de abril de 2009 hasta 2013. Fue la primera mujer en presidir la Conferencia Ministerial de la Organización de las Naciones Unidas para la Agricultura y la Alimentación (FAO) en 2011. Daniel Pearson | Cato Institute, ex presidente de la Comisión de Comercio Internacional de EE. UU. Bob Perciasepe | Ex funcionario del gobierno estadounidense que actualmente se desempeña como asesor principal de McKinsey and Company y del Centro sin fines de lucro para Soluciones Climáticas y Energéticas. Fue administrador adjunto y administrador interino de la Agencia de Protección Ambiental de EE. UU. durante la administración de Barack Obama. Tiffany V. Williams | Vicepresidenta senior en el grupo Daschle como abogada con más de 15 años de experiencia en asuntos gubernamentales representando empresas y organizaciones multinacionales en los sectores de atención médica, energía, alimentación y agricultura. Jugadores clave y personal de control del juego Alan Bjerga | Noticias Bloomberg | Periodista de juegos Tom Daschle, ex senador estadounidense, The Daschle Group | Mentor senior de juegos María “Kate” Fisher | ANC | Director del juego fue jefa interina de Protocolo de los Estados Unidos. John Podestá | ex consejero de la Casa Blanca | Orador principal. Político estadounidense y expresidente de la campaña presidencial de Hillary Clinton de 2016. Fue jefe del Gabinete del expresidente Bill Clinton y consejero del presidente Barack Obama…y es conocido por estar en medio del pizzagate. Yee San Su | ANC | Director del juego es Científico investigador principal en SEGURIDAD NACIONAL Y RESILIENCIA DE LA INFRAESTRUCTURA dentro de la CNA uno de los organizadores. Miembros de la célula de adjudicación Tim Bodin | Cargill Corey Cherr | Thompson Reuters Molly Jahn | es una genetista y mejoradora de plantas estadounidense y profesora de agronomía en la Universidad de Wisconsin-Madison. Fue Subsecretaria de Investigación, Educación y Economía en el Departamento de Agricultura de los Estados Unidos. Marc Levy | Universidad de Colombia Cristina Parthemore | Centro para el progreso americano Marc Sadler | Banco Mundial ………………………………………………………………………………………. Pero volvamos a los escenarios o rondas de juego de las que se habla en Food Chain Reaction. En el escenario 2020­/2021 señalaron una crisis inminente plagada de perturbaciones meteorológicas y climáticas en zonas de importante producción de alimentos que provocaron reducciones de las existencias de alimentos y aumento de precios. El vínculo entre el clima y la seguridad alimentaria fue bien reconocido por la amplia variedad de líderes mundiales que participaron en el juego. Todos estaban de acuerdo en el truño climático y que había que reducir CO2, el alimento de las plantas, a toda costa. ¿No sería lo más lógico potenciar los niveles de CO2 para que las plantas creciesen mas y mejor como sucede en muchos invernaderos? Los equipos entablaron negociaciones sobre un límite global de carbono, impuestos al carbono, “precios sombra” del carbono a través de regulaciones y comercio de carbono al principio del juego, pero no acordaron acciones de implementación. En la ronda 2 que cubre desde 2022 a 2024 pronosticaban lo siguiente: Sequías importantes dispersas en las principales zonas de producción, los precios del petróleo se disparan reforzando la producción de biocombustibles, se intensifican los disturbios y la migración, los precios de los alimentos aumentan del 262 al 395% de los promedios a largo plazo. Nos les suena la cada vez más clara entrecomillas “invasión” africana. ¿Creen que los africanos teniendo un enorme continente necesitan venir a Europa sin un motivo claro? Uno de ellos es que las largas manos de Bill Gates ha terminado por crear una hambruna terrible en África sobre todo por los monocultivos, transgénicos y el uso de fertilizantes que no pueden costear. Les leeré una lineas de un interesante artículo que dejaré en la descripción del podcast: “No es de extrañar que la Revolución Verde de África haya reproducido muchos de los problemas que tuvo la de India: Al igual que en India, la productividad general de los cultivos básicos no ha crecido de forma significativa a pesar de las costosas inversiones en tecnologías de la RV. Estas pobres tasas de crecimiento de la productividad se han mantenido muy por debajo de las tasas de crecimiento de la población. El éxito moderado de un cultivo prioritario (por ejemplo, el trigo en el estado de Punjab, en India, o el maíz en África) se ha producido generalmente a expensas del crecimiento sostenido de la productividad de otros cultivos. Se ha reducido la diversidad de los cultivos y de la dieta, lo que ha afectado negativamente a la sostenibilidad de los cultivos, así como la nutrición, la salud y el bienestar de la población. Las subvenciones y otros incentivos han hecho que se dedique más tierra a los cultivos prioritarios, y no solo a la intensificación productiva, con repercusiones negativas sobre el uso de la tierra y la nutrición. La salud y la fertilidad del suelo se han visto afectadas por la extracción de nutrientes debido al monocultivo de cultivos prioritarios, lo que ha hecho necesario comprar más fertilizantes inorgánicos. El aumento de los costes de los insumos suele ser superior a las ganancias adicionales derivadas de los modestos aumentos de rendimiento con nuevas semillas y productos agroquímicos, lo que aumenta el endeudamiento de los agricultores.” Los tipos no hablaban directamente de una guerra entre Ucrania y Rusia pero decían que esto pasaría en 2023 y 2024: “Rusia y Ucrania sufren estrés térmico que reduce el suministro de cereales.” “En 2024, el rendimiento de los cultivos se aproximará a lo normal en todo el mundo, excepto en la Unión Europea, Rusia y Ucrania, donde el calor y la sequía afectan negativamente a la producción.” La tercera ronda que va del 2025 al 2027 parece que es el punto de inflexión para una recuperación según comentan ellos mismos: “En el período 2025­/2027 se observa un alivio significativo de las presiones del mercado global. Los altos precios anteriores de los alimentos han desacelerado el crecimiento económico, disminuyendo la demanda. Asimismo, los altos precios han estimulado la producción de alimentos.” Por cierto, para 2025 la guerra en Ucrania debe haber finalizado: “Ucrania, cuyo gobierno fue derrocado tras su acuerdo con Corea del Sur, se recupera rápidamente con la ayuda de la UE y superará los récords anteriores de producción para 2027.” En la cuarta ronda volvemos a tener calentamiento global y los precios se vuelven a disparar, pero eso será ya entre 2028 y 2030. Por cierto nos recuerdan porque Marruecos y su territorio aprehendido a España, el Sahara occidental, es tan importante para el futuro: “Con el 95 por ciento de las reservas mundiales de fósforo, la importancia de Marruecos para los mercados mundiales de fertilizantes aumenta.” Lo que dejan meridianamente claro en las conclusiones finales y leo textualmente: “Fortalecer las instituciones y autoridades existentes bajo las Naciones Unidas (por ejemplo, el Programa Mundial de Alimentos, la Organización Mundial de la Salud, la Organización para la Alimentación y la Agricultura, el Departamento de Operaciones de Mantenimiento de la Paz, la Oficina del Alto Comisionado para los Refugiados y el Fondo Internacional de Agricultura). Desarrollo) y desarrollar una mejor coordinación entre ellos. Establecer una nueva entidad coordinadora bajo las Naciones Unidas/G20 para crear la capacidad de responder de manera más oportuna. Crear una nueva Sede Estratégica bajo las Naciones Unidas para coordinar mejor el uso de activos militares y no militares por parte de los estados miembros, y para posicionar previamente materiales en áreas de necesidad anticipada.” Se trata de que todas las agendas confluyan en una, la agenda del Nuevo Orden Mundial donde una pequeña elite de psicopatas dirigirá el mundo desde las sombras ya que los que vemos actuar son simplemente sus marionetas. ………………………………………………………………………………………. Debemos pensar que todas las Agendas confluyen en un punto muy importante y es la infertilidad y la despoblación mundial. Si miramos la agenda de promoción de la homosexualidad o transexualidad, LGTB o incluso la pedofilia, la agenda de la supuesta liberación de la mujer que lo único que busca es que las mujeres en edad fértil aborten y terminen viviendo rodeadas de gatos o las absurdas normas infantilizadoras de la sociedad que hacen cada vez mas blandos a los jóvenes impidiéndoles que tengan una familia propia, la agenda de la violencia de genero que mete ruido y miedo a los diferentes sexos para impedir la formación de nuevas parejas heterosexuales fértiles. La Agenda 2030 que combina muchas de estas agendas y que en definitiva trata de encerrarnos en ciudades megavigiladas donde el estrés impide llevar una vida normal y el dinero no alcanza para crear una familia. La comida es también parte de esta agenda global que nos lleva directamente al reinado del androginarcado donde no tendremos nada, ni identidad sexual, pero seremos felices. A través de la comida pueden introducirnos cualquier cosa como podremos ver en este pequeño video que les pondré en audio en Ivoox y que podrán ver en los enlaces del podcast. Estamos hablando de la empresa Epicyte, empresa de biotecnología con sede en San Diego, especializada en producir anticuerpos para enfermedades infecciosas e inflamatorias modificando genes en plantas como por ejemplo el maíz. Las plantas muestran varias ventajas como sistema de producción de anticuerpos a gran escala: pueden cultivarse de forma fácil y económica en grandes cantidades que pueden cosecharse, almacenarse y procesarse utilizando las infraestructuras existentes. Los socios actuales de Epicyte incluyen a The Dow Chemical Co., Medarex y Centocor, una subsidiaria de propiedad total de Johnson & Johnson, y el gobierno de Estados Unidos. ………………………………………………………………………………………. La pirámide de Maslow, o jerarquía de las necesidades humanas, es una teoría psicológica propuesta por Abraham Maslow en su obra “Una teoría sobre la motivación humana” de 1943. Maslow formula en su teoría una jerarquía de necesidades humanas y defiende que conforme se satisfacen las necesidades más básicas (parte inferior de la pirámide), los seres humanos desarrollan necesidades y deseos más elevados (parte superior de la pirámide). La escala de las necesidades se describe como una pirámide de cinco niveles: los cuatro primeros niveles pueden ser agrupados como «necesidades de déficit», mientras que el nivel superior es denominado «autorrealización», «motivación de crecimiento», o «necesidad de ser». La idea básica es: solo se atienden necesidades superiores cuando se han satisfecho las necesidades inferiores, es decir, todos aspiran a satisfacer necesidades superiores. Las fuerzas de crecimiento dan lugar a un movimiento ascendente en la jerarquía, mientras que las fuerzas regresivas empujan las necesidades prepotentes hacia abajo en la jerarquía. Os invito a profundizar y leer el artículo sobre este tema de la wikipedia o de cualquier otro sitio para daros cuenta de que impidiendo el acceso a la comida y a la bebida las élites nos mantienen en ese primer escalón de la pirámide logrando de esta manera que nunca lleguemos a autorrealizarnos. Hoy en dia es muy difícil ser autosuficiente en temas alimentarios viviendo en una gran ciudad. Por eso todas las agendas nos llevan a vivir en grandes ciudades pero en pequeños reductos donde no podamos organizarnos y compartir para gestionar nuestro sustento vital básico. De ello hablaremos este jueves por la noche en un directo en mi canal de Twitch, desgraciadamente no contaremos con el escritor de la novela “2085 Jugando a ser dioses” Antonio Pérez Algas por problemas de salud. Las ciudades de 15 minutos y la Agenda 2030 de la que ya nos hablaba Rosa Koire hace muchos años serán el tema a tratar en un nuevo directo en Twitcht este próximo jueves. Bueno, y ya hemos llegado al final del directo y quiero despedirme con una de esas frases que publico dentro del hashtag #Frases_UTP Esta es del pequeño Alex: “Nos presionamos intentando no decepcionar, intentando que vean que lo intentamos, intentando caer bien. Marco Aurelio decía que le sorprendía que nos amasemos a nosotros mismos más que a cualquier otro, pero que nos importara más la opinión de otros que la propia.” Así que quieranse, cuiden a sus familias y sobretodo no tengan miedo. Somos guerreros renacidos. Invitados: …. Dra Yane #JusticiaParaUTP Médico y Buscadora de la verdad. Con Dios siempre! No permito q me dividan c/izq -derecha, raza, religión ni nada de la Creación. https://youtu.be/TXEEZUYd4c0 …. UTP Ramón Valero @tecn_preocupado Un técnico Preocupado un FP2 IVOOX UTP http://cutt.ly/dzhhGrf BLOG http://cutt.ly/dzhh2LX CANALES TELEGRAM Promocional donde hacemos los directos https://t.me/UnTecnicoPreocupado Abierto para comentarios https://t.me/MiVidaMiOxigeno Ayúdame desde mi Crowfunding aquí https://cutt.ly/W0DsPVq ………………………………………………………………………………………. Enlaces citados en el podcast: Codex Alimentarius https://www.fao.org/fao-who-codexalimentarius/home/es/ Food chain reaction (Simulación y análisis creado por la CNA) https://www.cna.org/reports/2015/IQR-2015-U-012427.pdf CLIMATE, CONFLICT AND GLOBAL FOOD SYSTEMS https://files.worldwildlife.org/wwfcmsprod/files/Publication/file/676trii9ow_food_chain_reaction_findings.pdf Captura de la web http:// foodchainreaction .org/ ya desaparecida https://web.archive.org/web/20151029013514/http://foodchainreaction.org/ Pagina desaparecida entre abril y junio de 2020 justo con el COVID https://web.archive.org/web/20200415000000*/https://foodchainreaction.org/ https://web.archive.org/web/20201119230325/http://foodchainreaction.org/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi Que es la CNA https://www.cna.org/about-us/what-is-cna Food Chain Reaction: A Global Food Security Game https://vimeo.com/147939401 Reacción en cadena alimentaria wikipedia (participantes) https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Food_Chain_Reaction John Kerry te QUIERE MATAR de HAMBRE por el PLANETA https://twitter.com/danialonpri/status/1705291720001228830?s=09 Hilo sobre Soylent Green https://twitter.com/tecn_preocupado/status/1364294326189248515 Thomas Sankara explica en 1 minuto el objetivo real de las ayudas del FMI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAFG-PeZHKo MAÍZ CONTRA HUMANOS EL GEN EPICYTE https://youtu.be/-U6cR5AO4Vo?feature=shared Otra salida falsa en África impulsada por los mitos de la revolución verde https://ipsnoticias.net/2021/04/otra-salida-falsa-africa-impulsada-por-los-mitos-la-revolucion-verde/ Paper científico donde se cita a Epicyte (empresa de biotecnología con sede en San Diego) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1360138501021963 Producción de anticuerpos y fragmentos de anticuerpos en plantas. (Paper) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X00005144 Nombre por el que se comercializa el anticuerpo que puede esterilizar Anti-HSV antibody-HX8 https://adisinsight.springer.com/drugs/800011588 Patente https://www.cabi.org/agbiotechnet/news/1522 Cuadro con las 10 multinacionales que controlan la alimentación en el mundo https://x.com/tecn_preocupado/status/1706682190661091825?s=20 Pirámide de Maslow https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pir%C3%A1mide_de_Maslow ………………………………………………………………………………………. Bibliografia citada en el podcast Música utilizada en este podcast: Tema inicial Heros ……………………………………………………………….. Epílogo BENITO KAMELAS - El Renacer Del Guerrero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3070DRPp7GI

Bienvenidos a un nuevo directo desde el canal de Telegram de UTP Ramón Valero. En esta ocasión vamos a hablar de algo de lo que no hablamos oído nunca y que nos comentó un participante en el último directo. El Food chain reaction o traducido al castellano “Reacción en cadena alimentaria”. Se trata de una simulación o juego llevado a cabo en 2015 para simular lo que pasaría con la cadena alimentaria en un próximo futuro. Pero antes debemos hablar del Codex Alimentarius o “Código Alimentario” que como dice la ONU en su página oficial “es un conjunto de normas, directrices y códigos de prácticas aprobados por la Comisión del Codex Alimentarius. La Comisión, conocida también como CAC, constituye el elemento central del Programa Conjunto FAO/OMS sobre Normas Alimentarias y fue establecida por la FAO y la Organización Mundial de la Salud (OMS) con la finalidad de proteger la salud de los consumidores y promover prácticas leales en el comercio alimentario.” Estas normas empezaron en 1963 y son de obligado cumplimiento en prácticamente todo el mundo. Codex incide en tu salud a través de las “directrices” que está creando para la alimentación en forma de suplementos, organismos genéticamente modificados en productos alimenticios, fórmulas infantiles, aditivos alimentarios y muchas otras cuestiones relacionadas. Sin embargo, los principales medios de comunicación ni siquiera mencionan este tema extremadamente importante. Ninguno de los expertos que ha elaborado y puesto en práctica estas normas ha sido elegido democráticamente y la ciudadanía apenas ha sido informada de que la forma en que interactuamos con la comida viene determinada por la ONU. En esta simulación o juego, como le dicen ellos, veremos a muchos expertos que proceden de estos mismos ámbitos. Lo primero que nos debe llamar la atención es que la página web oficial creada para albergar dicho evento y que estuvo funcionando perfectamente desde antes de 2015 desapareció entre abril y junio de 2020 justo con el COVID. Parece que dos tragipandemias no podían representarse a la vez. Curiosamente en la conclusión del evento se dice que “La nueva normalidad es la volatilidad”. ¿Les suena lo de nueva normalidad y esto se dijo en 2015? En la descripción del podcast en Ivoox os dejare todos los enlaces para que podáis comprobar esto por vosotros mismos. La segunda cosa que me ha llamado la atención es que el pdf que elaboraron y que se titula “Reacción en la cadena alimentaria—Un juego de seguridad alimentaria global” sigue en la red con total disponibilidad y en su primera página pone “autorizado para su publicación pública y distribución ilimitada”. O sea, esperan que nosotros les hagamos su trabajo de publicidad. La tercera pata que me hace sospechar que estamos ante un trabajo de inteligencia militar para crear una operación psicológica a gran escala es el hecho de que esta simulación la haya creado una organización llamada CNA. CNA es como ellos mismos se definen “una organización independiente y sin fines de lucro de investigación y análisis dedicada a la seguridad de la nación” refiriéndose a los Estados Unidos que se dedica a abordar cuestiones militares en el Centro de Análisis Navales, o sea desde el propio ejército. La investigación de operaciones en los Estados Unidos fue iniciada por Philip Morse, el fundador de la CNA, durante la Segunda Guerra Mundial. Este tipo de organizaciones son parte fundamental en los engranajes que mueven el mundo y podemos leer en su web que “los líderes federales, estatales y locales confían en el análisis independiente de la CNA mientras abordan sus desafíos más difíciles, desde eliminar los prejuicios raciales en la actuación policial hasta preparar a los socorristas para desastres naturales y epidemias”. Este juego de seguridad alimentaria mundial fue un ejercicio de planificación teórica con 65 "líderes de opinión" y responsables políticos celebrado en noviembre de 2015 en Washington DC. Durante el ejercicio se mencionó que: “La 'Nueva Normalidad' es la volatilidad”. ¿Os suena lo de no tendrás nada pero serás feliz? “Los actores eran importantes líderes empresariales, académicos, funcionarios y burócratas de una dirección interconectada que al final representaba una serie de intereses corporativos y estatales entrelazados. Los jugadores procedían de entidades del Estado profundo como el Grupo Albright Stonebridge ; medios corporativos Thomson Reuters , Bloomberg News ; Carter Ham , ex comandante del Comando de África de Estados Unidos ; think tanks como el Cato Institute , el Aspen Institute y varios think tanks y universidades europeos. También participaron actores de lugares como el Consejo Empresarial Brasil-Estados Unidos , el Consejo Empresarial Estados Unidos-India , el Banco Mundial y el Banco Asiático de Desarrollo. Los cárteles del comercio de alimentos estaban presentes con Louis Dreyfus Commodities y Cargill . La red de Bill Gates estuvo representada a través de la Alianza para una Revolución Verde en África y presumiblemente por otras entidades. La simulación se centró en el período 2020 a 2030 durante una crisis alimentaria mundial. Los equipos de participantes representaban a gobiernos, instituciones y empresas que tuvieron que responder a una crisis alimentaria global causada por el crecimiento demográfico, la rápida urbanización , el clima extremo (una palabra de moda para el cambio climático ) y las crisis políticas. Se descubrió que el comercio, el clima y la "seguridad" eran grandes problemas en la seguridad alimentaria mundial. A medida que avanzaba el juego, los equipos se enfrentaron a una "nueva normalidad" caracterizada en gran medida por la volatilidad y la incertidumbre, con los precios de los alimentos aumentando entre un 300% y un 400%. A medida que avanzaba el juego, "una sorprendente convergencia de ideas permitió a los equipos acordar objetivos comunes y participar en actividades complementarias". Al reconocer su influencia sobre las condiciones globales, los actores tomaron medidas y "en el proceso, dieron forma al mundo", donde las soluciones fueron "una colaboración más innovadora entre gobiernos, empresas, sociedad civil e instituciones multilaterales". El ejercicio terminó con la implementación de un impuesto global al carbono. Preveían establecer una nueva entidad coordinadora en el marco de las Naciones Unidas/G20 para crear la capacidad de respuesta. Un actor sugirió el establecimiento de la Organización de Respuesta a Desastres y Ayuda de Emergencia (ORDER). ORDER se caracterizó como una organización humanitaria y no militar de ayuda en casos de desastre que serviría como mecanismo de coordinación para abordar los "desastres inducidos por el cambio climático". En las conclusiones finales, los actores acordaron ampliamente la creación de una nueva Sede Estratégica bajo las Naciones Unidas para coordinar mejor el uso de activos militares y no militares por parte de los estados miembros, y para posicionar previamente materiales en áreas de necesidad anticipada. También acordaron fortalecer las instituciones y autoridades existentes bajo las Naciones Unidas (por ejemplo, el Programa Mundial de Alimentos , la Organización Mundial de la Salud , la Organización para la Alimentación y la Agricultura , el Departamento de Operaciones de Mantenimiento de la Paz, la Oficina del Alto Comisionado para los Refugiados y la Organización Internacional Fondo de Desarrollo Agrícola) y desarrollar una mejor coordinación entre ellos.” Un juego, supuestamente se trataba solo de un juego donde los jugadores se organizaron en ocho equipos. Seis de los equipos representaron a Brasil, China, la Unión Europea (UE), India, Estados Unidos y África continental. El séptimo equipo representó a empresas e inversores, y el octavo equipo representó a instituciones multilaterales (por ejemplo, el Banco Mundial, las Naciones Unidas y las organizaciones no gubernamentales). Llevan jugando con el sistema alimentario ya desde hace mucho, buscando esa reacción en cadena que lo lleve todo al traste. Una de las pruebas para verificar que tan débil es la cadena de suministros de alimentos y otros bienes fundamentales la pudimos ver en mi artículo EL SATANICO PARTO VERDE EN EL CANAL DE SUEZ donde les hablé de toda la simbología oculta. Tras la primavera que es el evento de la fertilidad de la Tierra por excelencia tenemos un buque que antes de adentrarse en el canal ¿del parto? de Suez decide dibujar un pene. Después queda encallado con el bulbo delantero del barco bien clavado en la tierra, en una de las partes más estrechas del canal que obligó a que permaneciera allí 6 días. En dicho artículo les mostraba como las pirámides de Egipto estaban en la misma línea que el punto donde quedó encallado el barco lo cual excede toda casualidad posible. Así que tenemos todos los elementos fundamentales para que se diese un parto, la fertilización de la Tierra por el falo del barco, la inseminación profunda durante seis días, y la liberación de todos esos barcos o parto en luna llena. En este juego se quería comprobar lo fuerte que era la cadena alimentaria y como le afectaba los precios de los alimentos y las oscilaciones de la oferta en medio de un creciente crecimiento demográfico, una rápida urbanización, fenómenos climáticos severos y el malestar social A medida que la gravedad del escenario se profundizaba, los equipos llegaron a la conclusión de que ninguna organización, empresa o nación podría abordar con éxito la seguridad alimentaria mundial, y que las acciones aisladas de cualquier actor, o pequeño grupo de actores, pueden resultar en impactos en cascada. No hace falta ser muy listo para prever que la única solución para que el mundo no enfrentase una hambruna global era utilizar herramientas de gobernanza mundial, entre las que destaca el control de datos a nivel global. Cómo ellos mismos dicen en sus conclusiones: “Compartir información en un entorno transparente es fundamental para construir el sistema de gobernanza compartida necesario para la seguridad alimentaria futura.” Otra de las conclusiones es: “Integrar los problemas de seguridad y las políticas alimentarias.” O lo que es lo mismo crear una policía mundial para esto por ejemplo los jugadores que representaron a la India pidieron el establecimiento de la Organización para la Respuesta a Desastres y Ayuda de Emergencia (ORDER en sus siglas en inglés, o sea orden). También quedó claro que todos los jugadores tenían claro que había que seguir con la pantomima del cambio climático y la volatilidad que produce en los sistemas de energia y por ende en la producción de alimentos. El precio de los impuestos al CO2 es cada vez mayor y con este juego se trata de lograr impuestos a la carne y directamente al carbono, lo que tendría graves consecuencias para la dieta occidental. Parece que como dice el dicho “reunión de pastores, oveja muerta”, este tipo de eventos sirvan realmente para planificar como detener la cadena de suministro y lograr una hambruna mundial, algo que desde luego es lo que parece buscar la elite psicopatocratica para reducir ovejas, perdón, para reducir la población mundial. ………………………………………………………………………………………. Vamos a conocer quienes eran los 65 jugadores: EQUIPO BRASIL Cassia M. Carvalho es la directora ejecutiva del Consejo Empresarial Brasil-Estados Unidos. Geraldo Bueno Martha es ingeniero agrícola por la Universidad de São Paulo, ESALQ (1994), maestría (1999) y doctorado (2003) en Agronomía, con área de concentración en Ciencia Animal y de los Pastos. Luis Augusto de Castro Neves vicepresidente Emérito del Centro Brasileño de Relaciones Internacionales (CEBRI). Anteriormente fue presidente de CEBRI. Neves es presidente del Consejo Empresarial Brasil-China y ex embajador de Brasil en Paraguay (2000-2004), China (2004-2008) y Japón (2008-2010) Francisco G. Neto | Exsecretario de Estado de Agricultura | Empresa Metropolitana de Aguas y Energía SA Marcos Fava Neves Alexandre Meira da Rosa Universidad de Sao Paulo. Gerente, Oficina de Planificación Estratégica y Efectividad en el Desarrollo dentro del BID, banco interamericano del desarrollo. Joel Velasco Banco Interamericano de Desarrollo | Grupo Albright Stonebridge EQUIPO CHINA Jin Zhonghao | WWF­China Sol Ru | Instituto Chino de Relaciones Internacionales Contemporáneas Tang Xinhua | Instituto Chino de Relaciones Internacionales Contemporáneas Wang Jinxia | Centro de Política Agrícola China, Academia de Ciencias de China Wang Zhanlu | ATPC, Ministerio de Agricultura, China Zhang Junhua | Universidad Jiao Tong de Shanghái Zheng Yan | Academia China de Ciencias Sociales EQUIPO ÁFRICA CONTINENTAL Debisi Araba | Miembro, Universidad de Harvard. Director Gerente de AGRF, la principal plataforma catalizadora de Múltiples socios para la transformación de la alimentación y la agricultura en África. Martín Bwalya | Nueva Alianza para el Desarrollo de África (NEPAD) esto viene directamente de la ONU a través de la oficina del asesor especial para Africa. Robin Buruchara | Grupo Consultivo para la Investigación Agrícola Internacional es director de la Alianza Panafricana para la Investigación del Frijol. Adán Gerstenmier | Alianza para una Revolución Verde en África (AGRA) Está financiado por la Fundación Bill y Melinda Gates, así como por la Fundación Rockefeller. George Osure | Fundación Syngenta para la Agricultura Sostenible Ismael Sunga | Confederación de Sindicatos Agrícolas del África Meridional Mphmuzi Sukati | Mercado Común para África Oriental y Meridional EQUIPO UNIÓN EUROPEA Viola von Cramon | Ex portavoz de Asuntos Exteriores europeos & Deportes, Gobierno Federal Alemán Alejandro Cario | adelfos Cristina Chemnitz | Fundación Heinrich Böll /es economista agrícola y doctora de la Universidad Humboldt de Berlín. Dirigió el Departamento de Política Agrícola Internacional de la Heinrich-Böll-Stiftung desde 2007 hasta 2022. Gerard Fuchs, político francés desde 1968 | Fundación Jean Jaurès dicha fundación apunta a “promover el estudio del movimiento obrero y el socialismo internacional, promover los ideales democráticos y humanistas a través del debate de ideas y la investigación, contribuir al conocimiento del hombre y su entorno, realizar acciones cooperativas económicas, culturales y políticas contribuyendo a el crecimiento del pluralismo y la democracia en el mundo”. Tim Benton | Universidad de Leeds, Reino Unido Carlos Godfray | Universidad de Oxford /dirige el Programa de Medio Ambiente y Sociedad de Chatham House. De 2011 a 2016 fue el "campeón" del programa de Seguridad Alimentaria Global del Reino Unido. Lars Hoelgaard | Granja Europa, director general adjunto de la DG Agricultura de la Comisión Europea. Ondřej Liška | Ashoka Europa Central y del Este es un político, analista y consultor checo , presidente del Partido Verde en 2009-2014. Joao Pacheco | JS Pacheco Consultoría Internacional es experto en comunicación integral y gestión de crisis. EQUIPO INDIA Mukesh Aghi | Consejo Empresarial Estados Unidos­ India Yoginder K. Alagh | Universidad Central de Gujarat Ridhika es economista indio y Ministro de Gobierno de la Unión de la India. Fue presidente del Instituto de Gestión Rural Anand (IRMA) de 2006 a 2012. Batra | Federación de Cámaras de Comercio e Industria de la India Nutan Kaushik | Instituto de Energía y Recursos (TERI) Universidad Partha Mukhopadhyay | Centro de Investigación de Políticas Waheguru Pal Singh Sidhu | Brookings India es directora General de la Fundación Amity para la Agricultura y la Alimentación. EQUIPO INSTITUCIONES MULTILATERALES Paula Caballero | Banco Mundial /es la directora ejecutiva de la región de América Latina de The Nature Conservancy (TNC). Es reconocida por haber creado el concepto de los Objetivos de Desarrollo Sostenible de las Naciones Unidas. Dino Patti Djalal ex embajador de Indonesia en Estados Unidos. Se desempeñó como viceministro de Relaciones Exteriores de Indonesia entre julio de 2014 y octubre de 2014.Y desde 2015 es asesor en la Comunidad de Política Exterior de Indonesia una entidad privada de asesoría. Aitor Ezcurra Jefe de División en BID Invest, un banco internacional. Miembro del Grupo del Banco Interamericano de Desarrollo. Cary Fowler | Fondo Mundial para la Diversidad de Cultivos es un agricultor estadounidense y ex director ejecutivo de Crop Trust , que actualmente se desempeña como enviado especial de Estados Unidos para la seguridad alimentaria mundial. Tania Kaddeche | Corporación financiera internacional es la directora de manufactura, agronegocios y servicios de IFC en América Latina y experta en cambio climático. Keokam Kraisoraphong | profesor en la Universidad de Chulalongkorn y escritor de varios libros sobre la alimentación, como por ejemplo “Los rostros futuros de la alimentación y la seguridad alimentaria”. Dan Mullins | CARE Internacional era director de Investigación, Aprendizaje y Promoción del Equipo global de Seguridad Alimentaria y Nutricional de CARE y actualmente miembro de la junta de MCD Global Health. Fulai Sheng | Programa de las Naciones Unidas para el Medio Ambiente Craig Steffensen | Banco Asiático de Desarrollo Jürgen Voegele | Banco Mundial EQUIPO DE NEGOCIOS E INVERSORES Alan Barkema | Apical Economía, LLC ha sido vicepresidente senior de la Reserva Federal. Kris Carlson | Thomson Reuters Dave Crean | MARS, Inc. es vicepresidente de I+D corporativo y director científico de Mars alimento para mascotas. Chico Hogge | Productos básicos de Louis Dreyfus Nigel Mamalis | Productos básicos de Louis Dreyfus Jim Mize | En una de las empresas punteras de empaquetado al vacío Joe Piedra | Cargill Joel Vanderkooi | Compañía Kellogg EQUIPO ESTADOS UNIDOS Rubén Brigety, II | La Universidad George Washington Bruce Cameron | Corporación de Inversión Privada en el Extranjero Dan Glickman | Exsecretario de Agricultura; El Instituto Aspen Sherri Goodman | Consorcio para el Liderazgo Oceánico, exdiputado subsecretario de defensa Jamón Carter | Ex comandante del Comando de África de EE. UU. Luz Andrés | Instituto de Recursos Mundiales Kathleen Merrigan | política estadounidense Subsecretaria de Agricultura de los Estados Unidos desde el 8 de abril de 2009 hasta 2013. Fue la primera mujer en presidir la Conferencia Ministerial de la Organización de las Naciones Unidas para la Agricultura y la Alimentación (FAO) en 2011. Daniel Pearson | Cato Institute, ex presidente de la Comisión de Comercio Internacional de EE. UU. Bob Perciasepe | Ex funcionario del gobierno estadounidense que actualmente se desempeña como asesor principal de McKinsey and Company y del Centro sin fines de lucro para Soluciones Climáticas y Energéticas. Fue administrador adjunto y administrador interino de la Agencia de Protección Ambiental de EE. UU. durante la administración de Barack Obama. Tiffany V. Williams | Vicepresidenta senior en el grupo Daschle como abogada con más de 15 años de experiencia en asuntos gubernamentales representando empresas y organizaciones multinacionales en los sectores de atención médica, energía, alimentación y agricultura. Jugadores clave y personal de control del juego Alan Bjerga | Noticias Bloomberg | Periodista de juegos Tom Daschle, ex senador estadounidense, The Daschle Group | Mentor senior de juegos María “Kate” Fisher | ANC | Director del juego fue jefa interina de Protocolo de los Estados Unidos. John Podestá | ex consejero de la Casa Blanca | Orador principal. Político estadounidense y expresidente de la campaña presidencial de Hillary Clinton de 2016. Fue jefe del Gabinete del expresidente Bill Clinton y consejero del presidente Barack Obama…y es conocido por estar en medio del pizzagate. Yee San Su | ANC | Director del juego es Científico investigador principal en SEGURIDAD NACIONAL Y RESILIENCIA DE LA INFRAESTRUCTURA dentro de la CNA uno de los organizadores. Miembros de la célula de adjudicación Tim Bodin | Cargill Corey Cherr | Thompson Reuters Molly Jahn | es una genetista y mejoradora de plantas estadounidense y profesora de agronomía en la Universidad de Wisconsin-Madison. Fue Subsecretaria de Investigación, Educación y Economía en el Departamento de Agricultura de los Estados Unidos. Marc Levy | Universidad de Colombia Cristina Parthemore | Centro para el progreso americano Marc Sadler | Banco Mundial ………………………………………………………………………………………. Pero volvamos a los escenarios o rondas de juego de las que se habla en Food Chain Reaction. En el escenario 2020­/2021 señalaron una crisis inminente plagada de perturbaciones meteorológicas y climáticas en zonas de importante producción de alimentos que provocaron reducciones de las existencias de alimentos y aumento de precios. El vínculo entre el clima y la seguridad alimentaria fue bien reconocido por la amplia variedad de líderes mundiales que participaron en el juego. Todos estaban de acuerdo en el truño climático y que había que reducir CO2, el alimento de las plantas, a toda costa. ¿No sería lo más lógico potenciar los niveles de CO2 para que las plantas creciesen mas y mejor como sucede en muchos invernaderos? Los equipos entablaron negociaciones sobre un límite global de carbono, impuestos al carbono, “precios sombra” del carbono a través de regulaciones y comercio de carbono al principio del juego, pero no acordaron acciones de implementación. En la ronda 2 que cubre desde 2022 a 2024 pronosticaban lo siguiente: Sequías importantes dispersas en las principales zonas de producción, los precios del petróleo se disparan reforzando la producción de biocombustibles, se intensifican los disturbios y la migración, los precios de los alimentos aumentan del 262 al 395% de los promedios a largo plazo. Nos les suena la cada vez más clara entrecomillas “invasión” africana. ¿Creen que los africanos teniendo un enorme continente necesitan venir a Europa sin un motivo claro? Uno de ellos es que las largas manos de Bill Gates ha terminado por crear una hambruna terrible en África sobre todo por los monocultivos, transgénicos y el uso de fertilizantes que no pueden costear. Les leeré una lineas de un interesante artículo que dejaré en la descripción del podcast: “No es de extrañar que la Revolución Verde de África haya reproducido muchos de los problemas que tuvo la de India: Al igual que en India, la productividad general de los cultivos básicos no ha crecido de forma significativa a pesar de las costosas inversiones en tecnologías de la RV. Estas pobres tasas de crecimiento de la productividad se han mantenido muy por debajo de las tasas de crecimiento de la población. El éxito moderado de un cultivo prioritario (por ejemplo, el trigo en el estado de Punjab, en India, o el maíz en África) se ha producido generalmente a expensas del crecimiento sostenido de la productividad de otros cultivos. Se ha reducido la diversidad de los cultivos y de la dieta, lo que ha afectado negativamente a la sostenibilidad de los cultivos, así como la nutrición, la salud y el bienestar de la población. Las subvenciones y otros incentivos han hecho que se dedique más tierra a los cultivos prioritarios, y no solo a la intensificación productiva, con repercusiones negativas sobre el uso de la tierra y la nutrición. La salud y la fertilidad del suelo se han visto afectadas por la extracción de nutrientes debido al monocultivo de cultivos prioritarios, lo que ha hecho necesario comprar más fertilizantes inorgánicos. El aumento de los costes de los insumos suele ser superior a las ganancias adicionales derivadas de los modestos aumentos de rendimiento con nuevas semillas y productos agroquímicos, lo que aumenta el endeudamiento de los agricultores.” Los tipos no hablaban directamente de una guerra entre Ucrania y Rusia pero decían que esto pasaría en 2023 y 2024: “Rusia y Ucrania sufren estrés térmico que reduce el suministro de cereales.” “En 2024, el rendimiento de los cultivos se aproximará a lo normal en todo el mundo, excepto en la Unión Europea, Rusia y Ucrania, donde el calor y la sequía afectan negativamente a la producción.” La tercera ronda que va del 2025 al 2027 parece que es el punto de inflexión para una recuperación según comentan ellos mismos: “En el período 2025­/2027 se observa un alivio significativo de las presiones del mercado global. Los altos precios anteriores de los alimentos han desacelerado el crecimiento económico, disminuyendo la demanda. Asimismo, los altos precios han estimulado la producción de alimentos.” Por cierto, para 2025 la guerra en Ucrania debe haber finalizado: “Ucrania, cuyo gobierno fue derrocado tras su acuerdo con Corea del Sur, se recupera rápidamente con la ayuda de la UE y superará los récords anteriores de producción para 2027.” En la cuarta ronda volvemos a tener calentamiento global y los precios se vuelven a disparar, pero eso será ya entre 2028 y 2030. Por cierto nos recuerdan porque Marruecos y su territorio aprehendido a España, el Sahara occidental, es tan importante para el futuro: “Con el 95 por ciento de las reservas mundiales de fósforo, la importancia de Marruecos para los mercados mundiales de fertilizantes aumenta.” Lo que dejan meridianamente claro en las conclusiones finales y leo textualmente: “Fortalecer las instituciones y autoridades existentes bajo las Naciones Unidas (por ejemplo, el Programa Mundial de Alimentos, la Organización Mundial de la Salud, la Organización para la Alimentación y la Agricultura, el Departamento de Operaciones de Mantenimiento de la Paz, la Oficina del Alto Comisionado para los Refugiados y el Fondo Internacional de Agricultura). Desarrollo) y desarrollar una mejor coordinación entre ellos. Establecer una nueva entidad coordinadora bajo las Naciones Unidas/G20 para crear la capacidad de responder de manera más oportuna. Crear una nueva Sede Estratégica bajo las Naciones Unidas para coordinar mejor el uso de activos militares y no militares por parte de los estados miembros, y para posicionar previamente materiales en áreas de necesidad anticipada.” Se trata de que todas las agendas confluyan en una, la agenda del Nuevo Orden Mundial donde una pequeña elite de psicopatas dirigirá el mundo desde las sombras ya que los que vemos actuar son simplemente sus marionetas. ………………………………………………………………………………………. Debemos pensar que todas las Agendas confluyen en un punto muy importante y es la infertilidad y la despoblación mundial. Si miramos la agenda de promoción de la homosexualidad o transexualidad, LGTB o incluso la pedofilia, la agenda de la supuesta liberación de la mujer que lo único que busca es que las mujeres en edad fértil aborten y terminen viviendo rodeadas de gatos o las absurdas normas infantilizadoras de la sociedad que hacen cada vez mas blandos a los jóvenes impidiéndoles que tengan una familia propia, la agenda de la violencia de genero que mete ruido y miedo a los diferentes sexos para impedir la formación de nuevas parejas heterosexuales fértiles. La Agenda 2030 que combina muchas de estas agendas y que en definitiva trata de encerrarnos en ciudades megavigiladas donde el estrés impide llevar una vida normal y el dinero no alcanza para crear una familia. La comida es también parte de esta agenda global que nos lleva directamente al reinado del androginarcado donde no tendremos nada, ni identidad sexual, pero seremos felices. A través de la comida pueden introducirnos cualquier cosa como podremos ver en este pequeño video que les pondré en audio en Ivoox y que podrán ver en los enlaces del podcast. Estamos hablando de la empresa Epicyte, empresa de biotecnología con sede en San Diego, especializada en producir anticuerpos para enfermedades infecciosas e inflamatorias modificando genes en plantas como por ejemplo el maíz. Las plantas muestran varias ventajas como sistema de producción de anticuerpos a gran escala: pueden cultivarse de forma fácil y económica en grandes cantidades que pueden cosecharse, almacenarse y procesarse utilizando las infraestructuras existentes. Los socios actuales de Epicyte incluyen a The Dow Chemical Co., Medarex y Centocor, una subsidiaria de propiedad total de Johnson & Johnson, y el gobierno de Estados Unidos. ………………………………………………………………………………………. La pirámide de Maslow, o jerarquía de las necesidades humanas, es una teoría psicológica propuesta por Abraham Maslow en su obra “Una teoría sobre la motivación humana” de 1943. Maslow formula en su teoría una jerarquía de necesidades humanas y defiende que conforme se satisfacen las necesidades más básicas (parte inferior de la pirámide), los seres humanos desarrollan necesidades y deseos más elevados (parte superior de la pirámide). La escala de las necesidades se describe como una pirámide de cinco niveles: los cuatro primeros niveles pueden ser agrupados como «necesidades de déficit», mientras que el nivel superior es denominado «autorrealización», «motivación de crecimiento», o «necesidad de ser». La idea básica es: solo se atienden necesidades superiores cuando se han satisfecho las necesidades inferiores, es decir, todos aspiran a satisfacer necesidades superiores. Las fuerzas de crecimiento dan lugar a un movimiento ascendente en la jerarquía, mientras que las fuerzas regresivas empujan las necesidades prepotentes hacia abajo en la jerarquía. Os invito a profundizar y leer el artículo sobre este tema de la wikipedia o de cualquier otro sitio para daros cuenta de que impidiendo el acceso a la comida y a la bebida las élites nos mantienen en ese primer escalón de la pirámide logrando de esta manera que nunca lleguemos a autorrealizarnos. Hoy en dia es muy difícil ser autosuficiente en temas alimentarios viviendo en una gran ciudad. Por eso todas las agendas nos llevan a vivir en grandes ciudades pero en pequeños reductos donde no podamos organizarnos y compartir para gestionar nuestro sustento vital básico. De ello hablaremos este jueves por la noche en un directo en mi canal de Twitch, desgraciadamente no contaremos con el escritor de la novela “2085 Jugando a ser dioses” Antonio Pérez Algas por problemas de salud. Las ciudades de 15 minutos y la Agenda 2030 de la que ya nos hablaba Rosa Koire hace muchos años serán el tema a tratar en un nuevo directo en Twitcht este próximo jueves. Bueno, y ya hemos llegado al final del directo y quiero despedirme con una de esas frases que publico dentro del hashtag #Frases_UTP Esta es del pequeño Alex: “Nos presionamos intentando no decepcionar, intentando que vean que lo intentamos, intentando caer bien. Marco Aurelio decía que le sorprendía que nos amasemos a nosotros mismos más que a cualquier otro, pero que nos importara más la opinión de otros que la propia.” Así que quieranse, cuiden a sus familias y sobretodo no tengan miedo. Somos guerreros renacidos. Invitados: …. Dra Yane #JusticiaParaUTP Médico y Buscadora de la verdad. Con Dios siempre! No permito q me dividan c/izq -derecha, raza, religión ni nada de la Creación. https://youtu.be/TXEEZUYd4c0 …. UTP Ramón Valero @tecn_preocupado Un técnico Preocupado un FP2 IVOOX UTP http://cutt.ly/dzhhGrf BLOG http://cutt.ly/dzhh2LX CANALES TELEGRAM Promocional donde hacemos los directos https://t.me/UnTecnicoPreocupado Abierto para comentarios https://t.me/MiVidaMiOxigeno Ayúdame desde mi Crowfunding aquí https://cutt.ly/W0DsPVq ………………………………………………………………………………………. Enlaces citados en el podcast: Codex Alimentarius https://www.fao.org/fao-who-codexalimentarius/home/es/ Food chain reaction (Simulación y análisis creado por la CNA) https://www.cna.org/reports/2015/IQR-2015-U-012427.pdf CLIMATE, CONFLICT AND GLOBAL FOOD SYSTEMS https://files.worldwildlife.org/wwfcmsprod/files/Publication/file/676trii9ow_food_chain_reaction_findings.pdf Captura de la web http:// foodchainreaction .org/ ya desaparecida https://web.archive.org/web/20151029013514/http://foodchainreaction.org/ Pagina desaparecida entre abril y junio de 2020 justo con el COVID https://web.archive.org/web/20200415000000*/https://foodchainreaction.org/ https://web.archive.org/web/20201119230325/http://foodchainreaction.org/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi Que es la CNA https://www.cna.org/about-us/what-is-cna Food Chain Reaction: A Global Food Security Game https://vimeo.com/147939401 Reacción en cadena alimentaria wikipedia (participantes) https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Food_Chain_Reaction John Kerry te QUIERE MATAR de HAMBRE por el PLANETA https://twitter.com/danialonpri/status/1705291720001228830?s=09 Hilo sobre Soylent Green https://twitter.com/tecn_preocupado/status/1364294326189248515 Thomas Sankara explica en 1 minuto el objetivo real de las ayudas del FMI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAFG-PeZHKo MAÍZ CONTRA HUMANOS EL GEN EPICYTE https://youtu.be/-U6cR5AO4Vo?feature=shared Otra salida falsa en África impulsada por los mitos de la revolución verde https://ipsnoticias.net/2021/04/otra-salida-falsa-africa-impulsada-por-los-mitos-la-revolucion-verde/ Paper científico donde se cita a Epicyte (empresa de biotecnología con sede en San Diego) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1360138501021963 Producción de anticuerpos y fragmentos de anticuerpos en plantas. (Paper) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X00005144 Nombre por el que se comercializa el anticuerpo que puede esterilizar Anti-HSV antibody-HX8 https://adisinsight.springer.com/drugs/800011588 Patente https://www.cabi.org/agbiotechnet/news/1522 Cuadro con las 10 multinacionales que controlan la alimentación en el mundo https://x.com/tecn_preocupado/status/1706682190661091825?s=20 Pirámide de Maslow https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pir%C3%A1mide_de_Maslow ………………………………………………………………………………………. Bibliografia citada en el podcast Música utilizada en este podcast: Tema inicial Heros Descantilleos - Si Las Cosas No Cambian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayOvq1F9s0E Silvio Rodríguez - Sueño Con Serpientes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mvmw1H2NHM Los Traidores - Juegos de Poder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks0AQj7SVrI Marichal - Mentiras https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq2Oz_q81q0 Juan Antonio Canta - Rap de los 40 limones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUaK9sY-DaQ BLAKE - EXIT "PROD. MARTINEZ DE" #DABOIARUSSELII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMrpzThv0as ……………………………………………………………….. Epílogo BENITO KAMELAS - El Renacer Del Guerrero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3070DRPp7GI

In this week's episode of Breaking Battlegrounds, we are honored to welcome a lineup of exceptional guests, each bringing their unique perspectives on pressing issues that matter most to our nation.Our first guest needs no introduction, as he is a dear friend of the show and a prominent figure in the political landscape. Matt Lewis, the acclaimed columnist at The Daily Beast and the author of "Too Dumb to Fail: How the GOP Betrayed the Reagan Revolution to Win Elections (and How It Can Reclaim Its Conservative Roots)," graces our platform once again. Today, Matt joins us to share insights from his newly-released book, "Filthy Rich Politicians: The Swamp Creatures, Latte Liberals, and Ruling-Class Elites Cashing in on America." Next on our show is Congressman James Moylan, representing Guam. As Guam Liberation Day approaches on July 21, Congressman Moylan joins us to shed light on this historic event and its profound significance to the people of Guam. We explore the remarkable journey of resilience and freedom, honoring the spirit of those who have shaped Guam's vibrant history.Our final guest, California State Senator Shannon Grove, enters the conversation with an urgent and compelling topic. She discusses her crucial bill that aims to designate human trafficking as a serious and violent felony. Despite the importance of this legislation, California democrats voted it down. Tune in to learn more about this critical issue and the efforts to combat human trafficking in the Golden State.Subscribe now and stay informed on the latest developments, only on Breaking Battlegrounds!-Connect with us:www.breakingbattlegrounds.voteTwitter: www.twitter.com/Breaking_BattleFacebook: www.facebook.com/breakingbattlegroundsInstagram: www.instagram.com/breakingbattlegroundsLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/breakingbattlegroundsCalled a “first-rate talent” in The Washington Post and “super-smart” by John Heilemann, Matt K. Lewis is a center-right critic of American politics and pop culture.As a journalist, Lewis has earned a reputation as an “independently minded” (Columbia Journalism Review) and “intellectually honest” commentator (Ben Adler, Newsweek). He is a senior columnist for The Daily Beast, and his work has appeared in The Wall Street Journal, GQ, The Washington Post, The Week, Roll Call, Politico, The Telegraph, The Independent, and The Guardian. He previously served as senior contributor for The Daily Caller, and before that, as a columnist for AOL's Politics Daily.Lewis dissects the day's issues in conversation with other thinkers, authors, and newsmakers on his podcast Matt Lewis and the News, and co-hosts The DMZ Show with liberal pundit Bill Scher. He has appeared on MSNBC, CNN, C-SPAN, PBS NewsHour, ABC's “Nightline,” HBO's “Real Time with Bill Maher,” and CBS News' “Face The Nation,” and has contributed to radio outlets including NPR and the BBC.Kirsten Powers described Lewis's 2016 book, Too Dumb to Fail: How the GOP Went From the Party of Reagan to the Party of Trump, as “a lively and fascinating read for any person confounded by the state of today's Republican Party.” In 2011, Lewis released The Quotable Rogue: The Ideals of Sarah Palin in Her Own Words, an edited compilation of the Alaska governor's much-discussed public utterances.-Congressman James Moylan proudly serves as Guam's congressional delegate to the 118th United States Congress. As the first Republican to win the seat on Guam in nearly 30 years, Moylan's victory was historic. He is a strong and trustworthy leader who's focused on issues that affect Guamanians most. Moylan believes island residents have a right to know what's happening in their governing offices. Therefore, he has created an open door policy allowing constituents to have their concerns addressed. Moylan's history of service includes his time as a senator in the 35th and 36th Guam Legislature, a Veteran of the United States army and a parole officer at the Department of Corrections. Additionally, Moylan has more than two decades of experience working in the private sector, including healthcare, financial services, and insurance.In his current position, Moylan serves on the House Armed Services Committee and the House Natural Resources Committee.  Both Committees address issues that are vital to Guam.Additionally, Moylan is a native of Guam and is from the village of Tumon. He graduated from John F Kennedy High School and continued to the University of Guam where he obtained a  bachelor's degree in Criminal Justice.  Most of all, Moylan is a proud father to Abby and Krissy Moylan.-Senator Shannon Grove was born and raised in Kern County.After graduating from high school, Senator Grove served in the United States Army. While stationed in Frankfurt, Germany she witnessed the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989.Following her service to our nation, she established a staffing company with her sister-in-law called Continental Labor and Staffing Resources. Senator Grove currently serves as the CEO.Prior to her election to the State Senate, Senator Grove was the first woman veteran elected to the California Legislature as she served the 34th Assembly District from 2010 to 2016.Senator Grove was elected to represent the 16th Senate District in November 2018, which includes portions of Kern, Tulare, and San Bernardino counties. In January 2019, she was elected Leader of the Senate Republican Caucus where she served in that capacity for two years. As the Republican Leader-Emeritus, Grove remains a committed representative working with legislators to advance policies that benefit the constituents, businesses, and communities within Senate District 16.Senator Grove is an advocate for small business, school choice, the developmentally disabled, farmers, and families. She currently lives in Kern County with her husband, Rick. They are the proud parents of five children and eight grandchildren.Transcription:Sam Stone: Welcome to another episode of Breaking Battlegrounds with your host, Sam Stone and Chuck Warren on the line with us right now. Fantastic new book out came out on the 18th. Matt Lewis. He is a friend of the program, columnist for The Daily Beast, author of Too Dumb to Fail How the GOP Betrayed the Reagan Revolution to Win Elections. Yeah, we are not too dumb to fail. That's been proven many, many times. And today he's joining us to discuss his new book, Filthy Rich Politicians The Swamp Creatures, Latte Liberals and Ruling Class Elites Cashing In on America. Matt, thank you for joining us and welcome to the show.Matt Lewis: Well, thanks for having me back.Chuck Warren: So what gave you the idea to write a book about this issue about filthy rich politicians?Matt Lewis: Well, to be honest, it was because I'm a capitalist. And I was I was actually approached by a book agent, believe it or not, who had this idea to rank the 100 richest politicians in America.Chuck Warren: Interesting.Matt Lewis: That was the original idea of the book. It was 100 chapters. Each chapter was just going to be on. Wow. The 100 richest politicians in just how they made their money. And that's how it started. And it evolved, I think, into a much deeper, more important topic, which includes, you know, the original idea, but but goes so much deeper into like, what it all means. And so it was one of those just the stars aligned and I think we ended up writing a great book.Sam Stone: We got the book a few days ago. I've gone through most of it, I admit, to skimming a few portions. Who is the richest politician in America?Matt Lewis: The richest politician in America is JB Pritzker, who's the governor of Illinois. He is an heir to the Hyatt fortune. There are 11 billionaires in his family and interestingly, when he was running for governor in Illinois, there were three billionaires running for the seat last year in 2022.Sam Stone: Well, amazing. You know what I love about Pritzker? I don't know if you've ever read the book Super Mob, but that family got its start with mob financing.Matt Lewis: Well, you know, it's like the Kennedys, you know, I mean, you go back far enough.Chuck Warren: I think we just call those hard money loans today.Matt Lewis: But in in Congress, it would be Rick Scott. Most people and by the way, it's impossible to know the actual net wealth of most politicians because the range have ways of hiding it. And it's reported in broad ranges. But it used to be Darrell Issa. Right now we believe it is Rick Scott, senator from Florida, who's the richest in Congress.Chuck Warren: Well, so why should this matter to the average voter? I mean, so, for example, you know, as a 2020, I believe about half the members of Congress had a median net worth of $1 million. Okay. And there's almost 22 million people in the United States that have that net worth now. Now, most of that's probably in their home, right. Something they've lived in 20, 30 years. And a couple other things.Sam Stone: I mean, half of California has, but it's.Chuck Warren: Still a lot of money. I mean, you know, a population of 350 million, 21, 21, 22 million people are worth $1 million. And, you know, and that seems like a lot of money. But we also realize that's a lot. And it's not in a lot of ways, right? I mean, you can't retire on that per se and just live on it. But why is this important for Americans and why should they demand some reforms on this?Matt Lewis: Well, so the book is about two things. It's about how the rich get elected and how the elected get rich. And I think both things are important. So right now, the average member of Congress is about 12 times richer than the median American household. And so I think you know, look, I don't begrudge rich people from, you know, for running for office. And in fact, there's some ways that I even admire that. But I do think it's it seems likely to me that when and by the way, I should say that this this phenomenon where the average member of Congress is 12 times richer than the rest of us is kind of new. It's been going on for about three decades now. The gap has dramatically widened. And it just stands to reason, to me that when our elected officials are that much richer than the rest of us, there would be some sort of a disconnect or just a worldview difference in terms of connecting with working class Americans. But that doesn't bother me near as much as the second half of the story, which is the fact that once people get elected, they tend to get richer. And I think that is much more corrosive and damaging than just having rich politicians.Chuck Warren: Well, it's true, though. If you have a certain amount of wealth, you have different concerns than somebody who's making 15, $20 an hour. I mean, that's fair, right? And so how can you really relate if you're all full of people who are highly successful financially?Matt Lewis: Totally. I mean, you know, because of, you know, I'm from a very kind of middle class, working class background. My dad was a prison guard in Hagerstown, Maryland, for 30 years. And that's kind of how I grew up. And I live in West Virginia. I went to a little a little college in West Virginia, but I've been blessed to get to, you know, also know some, you know, folks in journalism who come from maybe more privileged backgrounds than me. And there are some of the nicest, kindest, best people. But I'm telling you, they see they see the world differently than I do. And who could blame them? I mean, they've come from wealth, right? They grew up. And I just think we're all formed by our experience. And and it's impossible not to be at some level.Chuck Warren: Absolutely. We're with Matt Lewis. He is a columnist for The Daily Beast. He has come out with a new book that was released this Tuesday. You can get it at at Amazon.com, Barnes and Noble wherever you find your books. Filthy rich politicians, the Swamp Creatures, latte liberals and ruling class elites cashed in on America came out this Tuesday, July 18th. All right. So I want to ask a couple of questions, because your book covers many topics, but who are some of the politicians that we have that are married into money or inherited great wealth?Matt Lewis: So you're the first person to ask me this question. I have a whole chapter or a whole section on this. So thank you. Because this is so I ranked well Business Insider ranked the they have a ranking of the 100 richest politicians in America. And so when the appendix of my book I took the richest 25 and then I personally did kind of a deep dive into them how they made their money. And of the richest 25 members of Congress, more than half, 13 of them made their money through inheritance or marriage the.Sam Stone: Really old fashioned way.Matt Lewis: Yes. And I'll give you a few examples. Richard Blumenthal, his father in law, and by the way, it's usually fathers in law for what that's worth. Interesting.Chuck Warren: Interesting.Matt Lewis: Yeah. Richard Blumenthal's father in law is Peter Malkin, who basically owned the Empire State Building. In fact, he was involved in a in a fight with Donald Trump at some point over control of that.Sam Stone: There was a long time when he was the developer in New York, the real estate guy. Yeah.Matt Lewis: Indeed. There's a Texas congressman named Michael McCaul. His father in law runs Clear Channel Communications.Chuck Warren: Oh, wow.Matt Lewis: Rokana, who's a congressman out of California who's starting to really make a name for himself. His father in law owns a trans max or started trans max and also runs Mara Holdings. Wow. And Mitch McConnell, a lot of people were like, how did Mitch McConnell all of a sudden get all this money? And there are like conspiracy theories about.Chuck Warren: That cocaine.Matt Lewis: Mitch And and and by the way, who knows, right? I mean, maybe there's some secret, But but basically what happened is that, you know, Mitch McConnell is married to Elaine Chao and her mom. When her mom died, you know, she inherited a ton of money. And how much how.Chuck Warren: Much she did inherit, how much did she inherit?Matt Lewis: Oh, we're talking you definitely were talking tens of millions of dollars. Yeah. I mean, he became incredibly wealthy overnight and it looks super suspicious, but it's a matter of public record directly correlates to when her you know, it's money from her her father but but she inherited it when when the mother died.Sam Stone: Andy Biggs is a $10 Billion publisher clearinghouse sweepstakes win is starting to look more and more legitimate.Chuck Warren: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You know.Matt Lewis: You know, what's you know, what's interesting is, is Kevin McCarthy, the current speaker of the House, won the lottery.Chuck Warren: Oh, really? I thought he did the sandwich shops. Did he really?Matt Lewis: Well, what happened is when he was very young, he won $5,000 in the lottery and he used that money to buy like a deli. And that is what led him to Congress. So.Chuck Warren: Oh, that's fascinating. Yeah, but see, that's that's a little more of a that's more of an all-American story. I got $5,000.Sam Stone: Yeah, that's a great story. Yeah.Chuck Warren: Yeah, it is a great story. It's sort of like, um. Oh, what's it what's that movie? Will Ferrell, where he gets sent to prison for insider trading and he's talking to us. He's talking to his father in law and said, I started this business all of myself with this computer and a $9 million loan from my father. And, you know, there's a lot of people like that. Um, so next to insider trading and I want to get into that probably the next segment. How do certain members benefit their family members, either via their connections or congressional campaigns? That happens a lot more than people think. And it always seems like a surprise to people that some kids on the payroll and we've got two minutes here, but can you give a couple of examples how that's happening?Matt Lewis: Totally. I'll give you it's a by the way, it's a bipartisan book. Um, both pretty much everyone's equally guilty of this. And so we'll start with Ilhan Omar, you know, a member of the squad on the left. She has directed millions of dollars, millions of campaign dollars to her husband's consulting firm. Likewise, Bernie Sanders, who, by the way, he became a millionaire from a book deal, but his wife, Jane, he has paid a lot of money to her over the years, including hiring her to be his media ad buyer when she had zero experience doing that. So she's basically getting a cut or a percentage of the money his campaign spends buying TV advertisements.Chuck Warren: Does she do that during the presidential, too?Matt Lewis: That is a good question. I think most of this happened in the his congressional races, like in Vermont senatorial races. But, you know, we're talking about a lot of money. And this one.Sam Stone: There's a lot of money when there's no risk, because he was never in doubt for any of those re-elections. Right. I mean, that's really kind of a.Matt Lewis: And Bernie. Bernie didn't just pay Jane. I mean, he paid her like her children, too. Which brings me to Ron Paul, a Republican who has employed six. In 2012, when he was running for president, he employed six family members, but he was a piker. He paid them a grand total of $300,000. So, you know.Chuck Warren: That's that's that's literally not surprising, though, right?Sam Stone: That that's chintzy, cheap. He's hosing his family.Chuck Warren: Do you think that do you think Congress should crack down on this and just not allow you in campaigns to hire family members?Sam Stone: We got 30s. We're going to. Okay. Going to head to break here in just a moment.Chuck Warren: We're with Matt Lewis. He is the author of a great new book came out this week, Filthy Rich Politicians The Swamp Creatures, Latte Liberals and Ruling Class Elites Cashing In on America. You can find this at Amazon, Barnes and Noble. Wherever you get your book, go buy it. This is a very important. We're going to come back and talk to Matt a little bit about what reforms he thinks need to be done so we can clean this up. This is Chuck and Sam breaking battlegrounds. You can find us at breaking battlegrounds vote. We'll be right back.Advertisement: At Overstock. We know home is a pretty important place and that's why we believe everyone deserves a home that makes them happy. Whether you're furnishing a new house or apartment or simply looking to update and refresh a few rooms, Overstock has every day free shipping and amazing deals on the beautiful, high quality furniture and decor. You need to transform any home into the home of your dreams. Overstock Making dream Homes Come True.Sam Stone: Welcome back to Breaking battlegrounds with your host, Chuck Warrem. I'm Sam Stone. We're continuing on here in just a moment with Matt Lewis, columnist of The Daily Beast, author of Too Dumb to Fail, and his newest book, Filthy Rich Politicians. We're talking about that one today. But folks, if you're looking to get filthy rich, maybe you should give our call. Our friends at Invest Y refy a call, go to their website, invest y refy.com that's invest the letter Y, then refy.com and learn how you can earn up to a 10.25% fixed rate of return on your money. That's right. 10.25% Phenomenal rate of return not correlated to the stock market. The stock market goes up. The stock market goes down, your investment continues, racking up the great interest and great returns for you. So give them give our friends there a call. You can do that at 888 y refy 24 and tell them Chuck and Sam sent you Matt.Chuck Warren: All right. So, so much to cover in your book, but tell us what are reforms of your king for the day? And they said, Matt, you make these changes and we start building a little trust back up in Congress again. What would you do?Matt Lewis: Okay. So the first couple we've talked about, I would the most important is to ban individual stock trading for members of Congress and their family. That is by far the most important thing we can do, because.Chuck Warren: Certainly I want to make one appearance.Matt Lewis: Of insider.Chuck Warren: Trading. Right. I don't want to hurt you, but you made a good point. I listened to on a fellow podcast, which you made this point. It's not even so much about them increasing their wealth. Sometimes it's that they prevent the loss of wealth. So let's use, for example, Senator Barr in North Carolina as an example, if you can share that with our audience.Matt Lewis: Yeah, this is really corrosive. So Senator Senator Richard Burr, he just retired, but he was chairman of the Intel Committee. So like in that capacity, you know, he had access to all sorts of of kind of classified briefings, classified information. And you might remember back in early 2020, like before most Americans realized how damaging Covid 19 was going to be like in terms of shutting down businesses and the economy. Um, Richard Burr dumped hundreds of thousands of dollars of stock in things like Wyndham Hotels, the kinds of things that would be damaged in a global pandemic shutdown. But making matters even worse. Then he picks up the phone and calls his brother in law and within one minute of hanging up with Richard Burr, his brother in law calls his broker and dumps his stock. And so that is the thing. It's it's not just that politicians are able to make money by virtue of what certainly looks like insider trading, but it's it avoids the downfall. And certainly during times of change and crisis, that's when they can really use information to dump stock and avoid like a major catastrophic loss.Sam Stone: Well, and that has the the so as someone who does trade stock issues, the other side of that is if you dump at the start of something like that on an industry like hotels, like airlines, all of that, you're going to get that going two ways. You're going to avoid the loss and then you're going to be able to buy back in at a low point and you're going to know when that low point is hit.Matt Lewis: Absolutely. And and again, think of it. I mean, the average American at this point doesn't know how bad Covid 19 is going to be. We're being told it'll disappear. It'll be, you know, like a miracle. It'll disappear or, you know, two weeks to slow the spread or whatever.Sam Stone: This is when you had De Blasio telling folks, go out in the streets and celebrate the Chinese New Year. Right. I mean, it's literally coinciding with that moment.Matt Lewis: And so that's a classic example, right? Our politicians are telling the public, don't worry, everything's fine. And yet what are they doing? What are they doing with their money? And so I think that is super corrosive. And that's by far, I would say, the most important reform in the book.Chuck Warren: Let me ask you this. I'm a follow up two questions real quick. How many members have siblings or family members that are in the brokerage business or selling and trading stocks? Do you know that you were you able to find that out?Matt Lewis: I it's in the book. I don't recall offhand. Okay. I do know it is in the book. And I will I will say this. I mean, in 20 so in 2012, up until 2012, it wasn't even illegal to engage in insider trading in Congress. It's only been the last decade when that was illegal. Now the problem is policing. And I can tell you that the law it's called the Stock Act that made it illegal has has done very little to alleviate. The problem.Chuck Warren: There's always a loophole, right? There's always some loophole they'll find. All right, what else would you do? What else would you reform?Matt Lewis: Well, we've talked about family. I would I would ban the practice of hiring family for campaigns or official congressional offices. If you want to volunteer on a campaign, by all means. I just. We just wouldn't pay you. I would have a ten year moratorium on lobbying so that after serving in Congress, you can't go out and just start lobbying your former colleagues immediately. You would have a ten year basically ban on that. Some people like Ted Cruz and AOC want a lifetime ban. I don't even know if that would be constitutional right now. It's, I think, two years in the Senate, one year in the House. But like you said, Chuck, I mean, there are ways around it. There's this thing called the Daschle loophole where politicians immediately start lobbying. They just don't register as lobbyists.Chuck Warren: They're consultants. They're consultants.Matt Lewis: Yes. They're yeah, exactly.Chuck Warren: You know, and you know what? You see this a lot, too. I mean, take Congress out of the equation. You see this a lot in legislatures. Legislatures. You know, you see people who couldn't rub two nickels together for their elected to the legislature, which doesn't take as much money. And now they're lobbying and making six high, six digits a year.Sam Stone: Watch every governor's staff, if they've just won their second term, they get into year five. Right. And that whole staff disappears into the lobbying land and they're all rich by year eight.Chuck Warren: Is that something that you think we should push also on the state level? And hopefully, you know, I find out a lot of times if states start pushing something, various states, then it goes to the national level is that's something that people should be pushing their state legislatures to pass?Matt Lewis: I would say definitely I would I would strongly encourage that. And, you know, sometimes states can be the laboratories of democracy. And if these reforms can begin there, that would be very healthy.Chuck Warren: What else? Okay. Lobbying, banning stock, hiring kids and family on campaigns. Those are three great things. What else could be done?Matt Lewis: One of them this is one that is not sexy, but it's book deals, believe it or not. You know, Bernie Sanders, who's a socialist, was asked, how did you become a millionaire? And he said, and I'm paraphrasing, but this is pretty close to the real quote. He said, I wrote a best selling book. If you write a best selling book, you could be a millionaire, too. But but the book deals are really I mean, people are using their their perch, their position to become millionaires. But the worst part of it is the bulk orders, right? So you write a book, but instead of real people buying the book, it's like the National Republican Senatorial Committee buys like 50,000 copies of it. And some of that money very well could trickle back into your pocket. Well, for example.Chuck Warren: For example, Bernie Sanders, I just looked it up, made $170,000 in book royalties in 2022, which almost matches his $174,000 congressional salary.Matt Lewis: There you go. There you go. And I don't think you wrote a book in 2022. No, he's still making royalties.Sam Stone: Well, and you know, the quality of most of these books, you know, they're ghost written or co-written, and most of them are just garbage. And you see these huge payouts, you know, it's not for their incredible insight in that in that no tome.Matt Lewis: Totally. Yeah. These are not this is not Hemingway you know.Chuck Warren: Well with Matt Lewis good friend of the show, daily columnist at The Daily Beast. He has come out with a new book. You can buy It now, Filthy Rich Politicians, the Swamp Creatures, Latte, Liberals and Ruling Class Elites. When we come back, we're going to talk about the latte liberals and what Matt dug in about that. I'm going to.Sam Stone: Bring up Joe Biden also. You can do.Chuck Warren: That as well. That's right. This is breaking battlegrounds. Find us are breaking battlegrounds vote. We'll be right back.Sam Stone: Welcome back to Breaking battlegrounds with your host, Chuck Warren. I'm Sam Stone, continuing on right now with Matt Lewis, friend of the program, columnist for The Daily Beast and author of the new book Filthy Rich Politicians, Swamp Creatures, Latte Liberals and Ruling Class Elites Cashing In on America, available right now at Amazon or your favorite bookseller? Matt As I read it, I did get to the section on the Bidens. And two things I think stand out is, one, they're cashing in less than most of of a lot of these other political families are. But two quite frankly, Matt, the stupidity of their schemes with Hunter Biden and all this stuff when there are so many ways that they could I don't want to say legitimately, but at least entirely legally make huge amounts of money. Did nobody in that family take notes from the Clinton Global Initiative?Matt Lewis: Well, I think if you've seen the pictures of Hunter Biden recently, you know that at least some members of his family are not operating based on reason and logic. Um, Joe Biden kind of has, it seems like I mean, who knows? I mean, I don't know if he's, quote, the big guy who's getting a cut from the Burisma money or whatever, from Hunter. But Joe, according to his actual, you know, disclosure reports, really wasn't all that wealthy compared to most of these politicians until he left the vice presidency. And then he had about three years where he really cashed in. He made about $15 million off of, you know, the usual boring stuff, speeches, book deals, being a adjunct professor, that kind of thing. But the one thing that is clear is that Biden has a long history of his family cashing in on on his name. And it's not just Hunter, it's James and Frank, I think it is, who've been doing this. And, you know, I found that way back in 1988, the first time Biden ran for president. He raised about $11 million. There's a lot of money. In 1988, he raised $11 million, and 20% of that money went to the Biden family or companies that employed the Biden family. So this thing of him spreading the money around to his family has been going on for 25 or 30, I guess 35 years something.Chuck Warren: Yeah. So in 1988, if you go and say, what's the dollar value, then that's worth about 5.1 million today. Yeah, I mean, it's real money. Sam, what are your what's your family doing for you?Sam Stone: I I've got to run for something more significant than city council is what you're saying. Chuck Yeah.Chuck Warren: Matt Let me ask you a question and Sam Biden Biden stuff, but I want to ask you a question. I, I heard you on an interview and I thought this was really interesting. And folks, Matt has just a wonderful wife. And the thing I love about Erin is she is so dang blunt. And you were talking to her about maybe on a walk running for Congress. Would you tell I want to understand really how hard this is to do, first of all, and why there is a certain wealth factor involved with it. I don't think they quite understand. You know, I have a congressional candidate friend who's running right now. He's put 300 grand on his race and just he just said it doesn't seem like it's enough. And that's what I have. That's what it is. Right. Would you explain your conversation and why this is so hard and why we are getting a certain amount of people in office?Matt Lewis: Totally. And this was eye opening for me as someone who's been, you know, in politics for decades, even for me, I had to kind of grapple with this realization. So but so my wife, as you know, Chuck, my wife is a Republican political fundraiser. And while I was writing this book, you know, we went out for a walk and we were talking and I was you know, I live in West Virginia and my congressman is running for Senate against Joe Manchin. And so we were walking. I said, you know, if things were a little different, maybe I someday I could run for Congress. And she's like, oh, you don't have enough money. And I said like, well, what are you talking about? Like, number one, I've been in you know, I know a lot of people. I've been in journalism for a couple of decades and I've got a good network and I'm like, number two, I'm married to a professional Republican fundraiser. Surely I could run for Congress in West Virginia. And she was like, Well, let me put it to you this way. If I didn't know you and you approached me and you wanted to hire me, I would say, come back to me. When you've either donated $300,000 or raise $300,000 from your personal Christmas card list, and then and only then would I introduce you to political action committees and high dollar donors. And that's when it hit me that even I who wrote on the Straight Talk Express with John McCain could not win a congressional seat in West Virginia because I'm not rich enough.Chuck Warren: Well, you need better friends. Yeah.Sam Stone: Yeah. Chuck and I are not going to be able to help you that much there. Matt Lewis, we want to thank you again for joining us. We have just about 30s before we end the segment here, we really appreciate having you on. How do folks stay in touch with all of your work?Matt Lewis: Oh, awesome. Well, first, get filthy rich politicians. Follow me on Twitter at Matt K Lewis and check me out at The Daily Beast.Sam Stone: Perfect. Thank you so much. Once again, Matt, we always love having you on the program. Looking forward to the next round breaking battlegrounds. Back in just a moment.Advertisement: At Overstock. We know home is a pretty important place and that's why we believe everyone deserves a home that makes them happy. Whether you're furnishing a new house or apartment or simply looking to update and refresh a few rooms. Overstock has every day free shipping and amazing deals on the beautiful high quality furniture and decor. You need to transform any home into the home of your dreams. 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Now, our next segment up, we have a returning guest, someone we really enjoyed having on the program last time, Congressman James Moylan of Guam. And we have something actually this is coming out on Saturday, the 22nd. We record on the 21st. And folks, the 21st is a very special day. July 21st is a special day in Guam. Congressman, tell us what's going on.Congressman James Moylan: Sure. I'll be happy to. Hi there, Sam. And hi, Kiley. And we as we greet folks from Guam, we say half a day. So half a day to you both.Sam Stone: And half a day to you as well, sir.Congressman James Moylan: Thank you. So we I was just on the floor today and gave a five minute speech for Congressional Record announcing the celebration of Guam's 79th Liberation Day 79 years ago. Guam was liberated and from during World War two. We also had a ceremony at the war. Let me see. World War II Memorial on July. July 13th here, where we had a wreath laying presentation on the monument at the War Memorial with Guam on it. This is a tradition that has been long ongoing for for quite some time. And we've joined in with our Guam Society of America, the oldest tomorrow group in the nation. We have so many different tomorrow groups throughout the nation, but this is the first and the oldest. We also had other members of Congress that were present. We had the undersecretary of the United States Air Force, Christine Christine Jones, and we also had the commandant of the United States Marine Corps, General Eric Smith, also do a presentation. So what's really happening is to remember this day for celebration. 79 years ago, on July 21st, 19, 1944, Guam, after two years of occupation by the Japanese Imperial Army military, the United States service members landed on our south west part of Guam, to liberate over 20,000 tomorrows and Americans from the occupation of Guam.Congressman James Moylan: The actual the war in World War II were not. Many people know that Guam was actually occupied by the Japanese soldiers, and that day came as an invasion on December 8th of 1941. This is a special day for Guam because we were celebrating the feast of Santa Maria Kamalen, and that's Guam's patron saint. And after people were coming out of church, the sounds of bombs were just dropping and planes flying overhead. And and it drowned out what was a peaceful neighborhood and a great celebration of of of our services there. And that's what started the occupation on Guam. So we're very thankful 79 years later for the liberation Day of Guam, when the Marines came on back on July 21st, 1944. So that's our celebration. And we we're very patriotic and we're we're rededicating ourselves to chorus. And Guam is even even just as important then as it is even more so now with the Indopacom situation and the Communist Chinese party threat for national security and our sister nations out there who are supporting us as well, with the U.S taking the.Sam Stone: Lead that has I mean, that is something that I think is so almost incomprehensible, Congressman, to any American right to you're stepping out of out of a services or a celebration in your country is being bombed around you. And there have to be people there who who lived through that experience, who still have that direct memory. Yes. And that has.Congressman James Moylan: In fact.Sam Stone: Never leave you.Congressman James Moylan: Right. And many of war survivors still tell the stories. And we did have a war survivor here for a celebration here in Washington, DC at the Pacific Memorial. So but my mother was also one. So my mother had told me this story and she was 12 years old at the time. She was coming out of the cathedral with her grandfather. And she she explained the story in this way, that as they were exiting and they see the Japanese zeros flying over and the bombs were coming on down and she's yelling at her grandfather, too, Grandpa, we got to go. We got to go. Let's run, run, run. As an older man, he said, No, just leave me here. And she started she had to pull him so they can run, run for protection and run and hide and get back home to their family. So them with my mother's explanation. And and by the way, my father was in Pearl Harbor at the time of the bombing in Pearl Harbor, too. So every everybody's generations and generations, families have been affected. And the war stories continue to the brutality that was taken against forced labor, forced marches, beheadings, stabbings, grenades and and caves where where locals were were killed and massacred. And it was it was tremendous loss of innocent lives. But that's why we celebrate the. With the Liberation Day coming out, with the Marines, coming out back with US soldiers, with the United States Navy there to re reclaim Guam and give us our freedom back.Congressman James Moylan: And my mother was part of that as well. There was what they called the Bennington Force march, where the Japanese troops used the local residents as a shield, As the Americans were coming onto the shore and coming inland, the Japanese were marching that direction, but using the local folks as a barrier. But of course, you know, the US is not going to kill innocent citizens. And my mom would explain to me as she's climbing up the hills in Menningen when they see the star on on the army, I believe it was an army tank or an army jeep. Then the soldiers would call them over and tell them to keep quiet, keep quiet, just come this way, come this way. And they felt so, so relieved to see the US, see Americans, see the military there. And it was a joyful celebration. And that's why this this has continued in celebrating and remembering in memory of this throughout the nation. We have Guam societies that we have calendars of events for just about every state where there's Guam residents. And they establish their organization and they celebrate to to remember those that have died, that have sacrificed. And if there are survivors to celebrate their lives as well for what we consider the greatest generation.Sam Stone: Congressman, one of the things I think people know from, you know, books and movies like Unbroken a little bit, some of the experience that, for instance, American POWs went through. But I don't think they know enough about what the people of the occupied islands of the Pacific, including Guam, went through. You were just, you know, referencing some of it right there. But that occupation was just absolutely brutal in every regard and with with really little consideration for the humanity of the people of Guam or any of the other islands of the Pacific.Congressman James Moylan: Very true. And and not all were able to talk about it some more. Chose to to forget my my mother's father was imprisoned in Japanese in Japan as well. And then when he came back to the to Guam after the war was over, he died shortly thereafter just from lack of lack of nutrition. So it was very it was it was brutal. And and the rules of war and Geneva Convention, there was there's nothing like that. The forced labor that was placed upon the people, the beheading of of local folks and the fights that went on and and what they had to endure. And you had to bow also to the imperial Japanese Army. And if you didn't, you're whipped and beaten. It was it was a sad day for those almost two and a half years of occupation. And that's why when the Americans came back, it was a great celebration. And since that time, of course, we've grown and we had we're considered per capita, the highest enlistment in the nation, where people joining the military, because of our commitment and the happiness and the joy that the United States came back to claim that U.S territory, which was the U.S territory at the time.Sam Stone: So there are few, few populations on the planet that love America and the ideals of America like the people of Guam.Congressman James Moylan: Yes. And I'm happy to represent as the delegate here. And there's a couple of committees that we were able to get ourselves on. And one is the House Armed Services Committee, which I play a great role in the readiness and also the personnel part. And I focus on on Guam and the Northern Marianas and and the Indopacom region. So we've had also we're able to have within the first quarter, a congressional delegation come through Guam. Second quarter, we just had another one, the House committee, House Armed Services Committee, to include the chairman and several other members of the House to come on up over an experience of what Guam is and what the role was and what it is now for the Indopacom region to defend against communist Chinese threat. And then we're going to have another one through the Natural Resources Committee, Department of Interior Affairs, which I'm a part of also, and the subcommittee specifically regarding our nation's Republic of Palau, Federated States of Micronesia, Republic of Marshall Islands as well. All these nations joining in so we can protect freedom and democracy. Right. And we are against the Communist Chinese party. So I'm very fortunate to represent Guam in these two committees that have a great impact in the Indopacom region. And we're I believe the United States will be here for a long, long time to ensure that the Chinese threat is is deterred by our show of strength with all our other countries that are involved with our democracy.Sam Stone: And people folks out there may not realize that as a territory. Guam, obviously, we're talking to their congressman member right now. Congressman, you don't have a vote on the House floor, but you do have a vote on committee. And I think most people don't recognize that what happens on the House floor is often kind of a dog and pony show, that the actual sausage gets made in those committees that dictates what's actually going to be voted on and how those bills, you know, interact with with the intent of the authors.Congressman James Moylan: Exactly. And we just were discussing the National Defense Authorization Act, the NDAA, which is the one of the biggest budget for the defense of the nation, and so much billions of dollars going into the Indo-Pacific region. Our influence there, we were able to double what we received last last fiscal year for for the island defense. So that's a great influence there. So in committee, yes, we do this and pardon me.Sam Stone: Sorry, we had a little technical glitch right there. Apologize for that. Let's just keep going here. I want to switch up topics just a little bit. We have only two minutes left. Are there any traditional celebrations, the traditional foods like here, obviously July 4th, Independence Day, it's hot dogs, hamburgers, fireworks. Are there celebratory traditions around Guam's Independence Day, their liberation day?Congressman James Moylan: Yes. Unfortunately, this year we didn't have it because we were hit with Super Typhoon Marwar. So we're still recovering from that. However, we'll we get back to our traditions. We usually have a parade with all the branches of the military, all our department agencies and a lot of villages are also represented with floats. It's it's it's a beautiful parade that goes down what's known as Marine Corps Drive. That's our main road on Guam. In addition, people overnight on the sides of the roads and they picnic because it's right next to the beach and they barbecue. We love our fiesta. We call it Fiesta food. We have what's called red rice barbecue chicken, barbecue ribs. And our marinade is delicious. We have a sauce called Vinodhini, which is our hot sauce. And we have something special called Chicken Kelaguen that everybody loves. So.Sam Stone: Congressman, I think we I think we need to check the weather and make some plans for next year to come. There.Congressman James Moylan: There you go. You're more than welcome and you're invited. Please come on down. It's going to be the 80th. And that's where you should have your show coming out of. That'd be great.Sam Stone: I think that sounds like an absolutely fantastic plan. Congressman James Moylan of Guam, thank you so much for joining us once again. We really appreciate having you on the program, folks. Stay tuned for our podcast only segment. You're not going to want to miss this one. Breaking battlegrounds. Back in just a moment.Speaker1: The 2022 political field was intense, so don't get left behind in 2024. If you're running for political office, the first thing on your to do list needs to be securing your name on the web with a your name Web domain from GoDaddy.com. Get yours now.Sam Stone: Welcome to the podcast. Only segment of breaking battlegrounds. In studio with me today the irrepressible haven't broken that out in a while the irrepressible Kiley Kipper. She remains irrepressible folks. She is our producer. She does a fantastic job. We've got Jeremy in the booth, as always, doing a beautiful job on all our audio and on the line. Now, I saw this come out a little while ago and it kind of blew me away. We have Senator Shannon Grove from California's 12th Senate District. Senator Grove has served in the US Army and had the amazing. It had to be amazing. Senator, the experience in Frankfurt, Germany, of watching the fall of the Berlin Wall. She's an advocate for small business school choice, the developmentally disabled farmers and families, and we're having her on today to discuss her proposed amendment to Assembly Bill 2167. Senator, thank you so much for joining us today. We really appreciate having you on the program. Tell us what this amendment was. First, I think this is news that was so much going on in the country, escaped a lot of people, but it really blew me away when I heard about your bill. I'm shocked California didn't have something like this already on the books and then shocked and disheartened at the Democrats response to it.Senator Shannon Grove: No.Senator Shannon Grove: And I appreciate you guys covering this subject matter. I really do. And thank you for having me on. Sb 14 was a simple solution that would just allow us individuals who sell children for sex, sex trafficking, minor children, 0 to 17in age group. It would make it a serious felony in the state of California right now, there's two subsections that deal with this subject matter. And selling a child for sex does not automatically make it a serious felony unless there's coercion, torture, violence, you know, all these different things that go along with it, then it can be considered serious. But I want the actual act of selling the child to be a serious felony.Sam Stone: And it shocks I mean, honestly, it we're sitting here in Arizona, obviously, we've had Republican leadership for a long time. So it's a very different environment. Obviously, every state is different. But this should be a no brainer, right? I mean, so much of the problem and we've dealt with the issue of sex trafficking and child sex trafficking here quite a bit. Obviously, with the border. Arizona is also another hub of that activity, just like California is, unfortunately. But a lot of times it's very difficult to prove those if you can prove any element of it at all. It's really difficult to prove those other elements. This has got to be just hamstringing prosecutors, this current law.Senator Shannon Grove: It really is hamstringing prosecutors. And that's why we work together with our district attorneys, including all the statewide district attorneys, with the exception of 3 or 4. But specifically Nancy O'Malley, the former district attorney of Alameda County, who established the heat unit, the human trafficking exploitation unit. And what happened is, is that that was the first unit set up like that in the nation that was victim centered. She's prosecuted over 850 cases of human trafficking. And one of the big issues that she has is that you can't convict these individuals because this particular bill, SB 14, the language is not on the books. When we first introduced the language, we wanted to make sure everybody was encompassed, that everybody in sex trafficking, labor trafficking were all included. But to get it out of the Senate, we had to narrow it to minors only. So we moved the football a little bit. We got a unanimous vote in the Senate. 40 senators in the state of California, all 40 voted I no abstentions and no no's. Fast forward to the Assembly Public Safety Committee, where the bill dies.Sam Stone: Oh.Sam Stone: I it stuns me. What was to hear that? I mean, it's sort of it's just gross. I mean, quite frankly, it's just gross. They clearly killed it when they they figured it wouldn't draw much attention by killing it in committee. But, my goodness, how how did what did they what did they say? How did these Democrats look at themselves in the mirror?Kiley Kipper: That's what I want to know, is what is their response when you're trying to have these conversations with the people that you work with?Senator Shannon Grove: So, yeah, no. So I did I was, you know, they requested me leadership, requested me to meet with the chair of the committee after it was killed and he wanted me to take an amendment. So let me explain the bill just a little bit more so people get a full grasp of it. If you sex trafficking a minor child in the state of California and you get caught and you get prosecuted, you get sentenced to either four, 8 or 12 years, let's just take the maximum 12 years with California's criminal justice reform laws. You go to school, you go to classes, you're a good behavior in prison. You can get out in less than four years. So let's just take that scenario, which happens quite often. You get out in four years and then you go back to sex trafficking a minor. That's when my bill kicks in and creates a strike offense that when you get busted on your second offense for selling a child for sex, then you have to serve your full 12 years and you have a strike against you, which could, if you continue your bad behavior, you could end up with life in prison. The chair wants me to take an amendment to allow the second offense of sex trafficking, not the first one. When you get convicted, you go to prison. You get out in four years, but then you get out again and you sex trafficker minor do or do another bad felony, something that's listed as a serious or violent felony. He wants me to take an amendment to allow the perpetrator to plea bargain down. I said no. So that's why the bill died.Sam Stone: That that is that is Kiley. That is stunning to me.Kiley Kipper: Just sitting here shaking our heads.Sam Stone: Yeah, My mouth is my mouth is on the bottom of this table right now because can you even.Senator Shannon Grove: Believe we're having this conversation?Sam Stone: No, no, no. Senator, we're talking to Senator Shannon Grove of California's 12th Senate District. She proposed this bill that would have made it a serious and violent felony to traffic minor children for the purposes of sex. That's a really narrow thing. I mean, trafficking any person should be a serious and violent felony. I like your original intent, but I understand cutting it back. You have to make a deal. I cannot comprehend the inhumanity that it takes to not move this out of committee.Senator Shannon Grove: Well, I think it just, you know, with the the media engaging the way they did and Californians raising up their voices and, you know, with the the the exposure that the bill got from dying caused the Public Safety Committee to reverse their decision, you know, 24 hours later. So it still is moving through the building. They are still pushing for amendments. You know, the public safety chair voted for the bill. We got it out of public safety. And now he's on, you know, TV. Every time he turns around going the bill is still flawed. I have to fix this bill. There's nothing wrong with my bill. It says that if you it just simply says you can't. It's a serious felony to to sex traffickers sell a child for sex. It's just ridiculous that you wouldn't be able to get this passed with flying colors. And what's interesting is, is that, like I said, every senator voted for it, including Scott Wiener out of San Francisco, The San Francisco Chronicle, and I'm talking about San Francisco, not normal California, but San Francisco. The San Francisco Chronicle even did an article, you know, against the chair's arguments like like you mean sex trafficking. The minor isn't enough like that. They have to brutalize them. You know, there's a whole list of things that they have to do in order to make it a strike or a default to life in prison. But I mean, branding them with a branding iron instead of tattooing all these different things in the details that will allow you to make it a fallback for the strike able offense. I just want to make it a strike able offense for sex trafficking. A minor like you shouldn't need all these other things. I think sex trafficking, a minor like my witness said it and it's kind of gross, but you have to get this vision in your head. Grown men all over a ten year old child, that in itself should be a serious felony.Sam Stone: Okay. I'm glad to be here. We are, folks, we are recording this just before lunchtime and I started the intermittent fasting thing. And I'm right now really glad that I don't start eating anything till noon because I think I would have thrown up right there. I mean, that's just.Senator Shannon Grove: This is disgusting. It's the hardest bill I've ever. I met parents that whose daughter was trafficked. And I said, How did you find out? You know, you know, tell me your story. She got a text message, a video. She clicked on the video and it was five guys gang raping her daughter. I met a and it's it's disproportionately does affect black women and people of color. If you look at Figueroa Street, the National Coalition of Human Trafficking down there says that 70% of the women that are in their shelters are are black or brown. And then also 55% of them on the streets are black or brown. So for them to say that this disproportionately affects black people, I agree with them in that portion only. They are concerned about the black people that could possibly go to prison for perpetrating these crimes against black women. And I to me, I don't care what color your skin is, I, I don't care what I was in the military. Everybody's green, but I don't care what color your skin is. If you're sex trafficking minors, I do want you to go to prison for a long time. Yeah.Sam Stone: I mean, this this hesitation on their part, it's protecting the evil people and not protecting the innocent ones. And who gives a darn about skin color? That just makes no sense at all.Senator Shannon Grove: But when they can't make an argument on the substance, they always throw in race. And they always do that. They always throw in race. And then you've got these people out there doing the q-anon thing. If they can't make an argument on the substance, they try to distract from the substance. And I keep saying the bill is very simple. If you sex trafficking a minor 0 to 17, you should go to prison.Sam Stone: Well, and part of the backstory behind some of their opposition, I imagine, is what they've been trying to do to essentially legalize or decriminalize however you want to put it, prostitution. But they present it as as a choice for the people that are engaging in that activity. This is not a choice. I mean, this is not somebody. Yeah. Who's who's making a decision about their own life. This is somebody who's being abused in the worst way possible.Senator Shannon Grove: You're exactly right. But when you get into the details, I guess you'd say the the the serious felony doesn't kick in when you traffic a minor because, you know, you just you have to imagine somebody's going, come on, you know, like a family member or do this for dad, do this for mom. You know, whatever a neighbor come on, just do this one time. Well, they're not they're not beating her into submission. They're not. So it doesn't count, right? It just doesn't count. So there are there are it is very, very hard to prosecute a serious felony in the state of California for this because the girls are scared. They're young. They they they're afraid to turn someone in. And so basically, they have to have all these additional things that happen once you sex traffic the minor. And that's why I was trying to make it simple that that selling the child or sex trafficking the child should be enough alone by itself as a serious felony.Sam Stone: I, I.Sam Stone: Would agree, Kylie, in part because when you talk to experts about this, about sex trafficking, particularly a minor, children, you know, even regardless of the physical abuse, what they're using is mental abuse and mental torture to to keep these these young people in a position where they can continue to be exploited. They're tearing their mind apart. Yeah.Kiley Kipper: And it'll never be recovered. Obviously, their life will never be the same.Senator Shannon Grove: I mean, Kiley, you're absolutely right when you think about it. You know, even my survivors that have gone on to have families and you know that I have Odessa Perkins, if you haven't watched her testimony, she really nailed them with her responses. But she was she was trafficked as a minor and went through the anger stage, the criminal stage, the whole bit where she was, you know, didn't function right in society because of the trauma in her. And then you become a survivor versus a victim. Right. And now she's an interventionist. She's a speaker and author. She has a nonprofit where she rescues at risk kids and deters at risk kids and rescues people out of human trafficking. So there is a is a road to recovery. But that doesn't mean that she doesn't deal with this trauma that affected her as a child all of her life, every single day. And the same with Jenna McKay, who does the Jenna McKay Foundation. And you know what's interesting about these two individuals, Odessa is a black a black woman trafficked as a child in a in a poor socioeconomic disadvantaged neighborhood. But Jenna McKay came from a Christian home, no divorce, got a full ride scholarship to Vanguard University and was lured out of that by someone who said they loved her. She fell in love. She thought she they'd been dating for a few months. He asked her to go to Vegas, knock on the door. When they get to Vegas, they exchanged money and men came in and raped her.Kiley Kipper: Wow.Senator Shannon Grove: So there's different stories in this human trafficking realm.Sam Stone: And it takes an enormous amount of courage to be able to come out and tell those stories. But it takes as much courage in the moment to be able to go and tell that story to police. And it just sounds like this, you know, anything you do that adds barriers, that makes it more difficult for them to have the the the resolution in part, I guess, of having their assailant be actually placed in bars and behind bars and face real penalties. That has to be part of the healing process for a lot of them. Right. Is is seeing justice actually happen. And this is this this hesitation by some California Democrats is really denying that.Senator Shannon Grove: It really is. And that's a perfect way to explain it, too. So we're trying to remove barriers. There's barriers now to testimony which you just said. So this bill would remove barriers. It just the act of selling the child for sex would be a serious felony. So there wouldn't be any barriers where you have to meet a certain level or did they beat you? Did they sodomise you? Did they I mean, all these crazy things, right? So just the act. So we're trying to remove the barriers for these these kids to testify. So that's a very good way to put it. Thank you for phrasing it that way.Sam Stone: Fantastic. Senator, anything else that we should be focusing, you know, people should be paying attention to around this upcoming hearings or anything like that. And then secondly, how can they support you in the work you're doing? Because I got to say, especially in California, you're you're swimming upstream in a big way. But they need more voices like yours who provide some balance.Senator Shannon Grove: I appreciate that. So the bill did get out of public safety. It quieted the media down a little bit. So now everybody's off on their what they call summer break. We come back on August 14th and the bill will go before the Appropriations Committee in order to get through one more committee, the opposition, the Democrats that killed the bill originally in public safety and then re voted for the bill two days later or a day and a half later. They are still saying that I they are going to fix this bill and they're going to make me take amendments. There is nothing to fix in this bill, so please stay engaged in the process. You can follow me at Shannon Grove, CA on Instagram, Shannon Grove, CA on Twitter, Shannon Grove, CA on Facebook, or Senator Shannon Grove on Facebook. But and we'll post the, you know, the day that the hearing is going to take place. We'll keep everybody updated on social media. So please stay engaged and to pray for this process because it really is just just a mess the way that the California state legislature operates. And then also, you know, participate in the hearing process. They still allow call ins. You can call in, you can write in, you can you can just participate to support the bill. So thank you, folks.Sam Stone: We have a lot of listeners out there right now who are listening to this who are in California. Make your voice heard. You know, make stand up, exercise your right as a citizen. I think that's incredibly important in this case. They need to hear from voices outside the political process and where people really stand, because I don't see. Senator, thank you so much for joining us. Senator Shannon Grove. I don't see anything at all that needs to be amended in this bill. This needs to pass.Senator Shannon Grove: I agree. Thank you so much for taking the time to interview me and get the message out there. I really appreciate it.Sam Stone: All right. Fantastic. Folks, remember to tune in every week to Breaking Battlegrounds. We're on all your favorite Salem network stations. And you can also download us wherever you find your podcasts, Substack, Spotify. Apple Podcasts. I think we still even post to YouTube, although I've never I've never actually been on our YouTube site. Kiley To find out what's up. It's up. Okay, folks, make sure you're tuning in. That's how we keep the lights on here in this studio. That's how we pay the bills and that's how we continue to bring you stories about what's going on around the country that maybe aren't getting enough coverage like this one. Again, thank you to all of our guests today and particular thanks to our final guest, Senator Shannon Grove of California. It is, as always, been an enlightening and and not always easy journey here with breaking battlegrou

On this episode of the Impact Real Estate Podcast presented by Jackson Lucas Executive Search, we talk about a topic near-and-dear to our hearts with Michael Daschle, Senior Vice President of Sustainability at Brookfield Properties. We talk about one of the fastest growing and most important fields of real estate with one of the top minds in the industry. How did he go from flying helicopters in the Army to a career in real estate? You don't want to miss this conversation. Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3I3nkG9Spotify: https://spoti.fi/35ZJGLTWeb: https://www.jacksonlucas.com/podcast/michael-daschleEpisode Notes:02:42 - Chance investment opportunity 06:24 - From flight school to real estate 08:58 - Adding more value 12:05 - Shift in forward-thinking 14:24 - Cost vs value 18:23 - Transition to zero carbon economy 21:13 - Self assessment 28:29 - Net-zero framework 30:43 - Learning the essentials of the business 33:21 - An accelerated pace39:01 - The Hot Seat presented by KK Reset

When I launched the AVIATE with Shaesta podcast, it was a priority to find women in government who could talk about their career journey and their impact on the industry. In my research, I came across the first female to serve as the FAA Acting Administrator, Linda Hall Daschle. Recently, a very kind and supportive aviation leader introduced me to Linda, and I am so grateful to him.Linda, a Kansas native, is a prominent public policy and government affairs figure. Daschle has served as a senior executive at several leading organizations and was actively involved in their government relations strategies. After 20 years of actively working in the aviation industry, Linda was nominated by President Bill Clinton and confirmed by the U.S. Senate as Deputy Administrator to the FAA. Daschle became the first woman to serve as the FAA Acting Administrator three years later. In addition to her work in government affairs, Linda is also a sought-after speaker and has participated in numerous conferences and forums, sharing her insights and expertise on various policy issues. She is known for her ability to communicate complex concepts clearly and compellingly, making her a respected voice in the policy arena.Linda, welcome!

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In a small program with a cohort of just three students, who you're around makes a world of difference. On this episode, Edwards Daschle talks about finding a writing community, a welcoming environment to write both realism and fantasy, and inclusive workshops. Plus, he and Jared talk about mining our lives for stories, drumming up motivation to write, and what it's like to get into an MFA on your fifth try. Edward Daschle (he/him/his) is a second year creative writing MFA candidate studying fiction at the University of Maryland. He grew up in the Pacific Northwest, land of serial killers and Sasquatch, deadly mountains and overcast skies. His fiction appears in Grim & Gilded, Stoneboat Literary Journal, Defunct, and OFIC Magazine. MFA Writers is hosted by Jared McCormack and produced by Jared McCormack and Hanamori Skoblow. New episodes are released every two weeks. You can find more MFA Writers at MFAwriters.com. This episode was requested by Cynthia. Thank you for listening, Cynthia! BE PART OF THE SHOW — Donate to the show at Buy Me a Coffee. — Leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. — Submit an episode request. If there's a program you'd like to learn more about, contact us and we'll do our very best to find a guest who can speak to their experience. — Apply to be a guest on the show by filling out our application. STAY CONNECTED Twitter: @MFAwriterspod Instagram: @MFAwriterspodcast Facebook: MFA Writers Email: mfawriterspodcast@gmail.com

Moderator Chuck Raasch and journalist Jonathan Karl discuss journalism and the presidency in part two of our three-part Daschle Dialogues series.

We bring you part one of the Daschle Dialogues. It's a conversation with Jonathan Karl, author of the books Front Row at the Trump Show and Betrayal, the Final Act of the Trump Show. We explore how South Dakota influenced Karl's life and career.

From serving in the Air Force, to his time in both the House and Senate, and rising to become Senate Majority Leader during the 9-11 attacks…few have led more impactful political lives than Tom Daschle. In this conversation, he talks the unusual confluence of events that led to his involvement in politics, his mentor George McGovern, being taken under the wing of Speaker Tip O'Neill, his meteoric rise to become Senate Democratic leader…with stories, lessons, and insight from a 50+ career of service that continues to this day.IN THIS EPISODEThe two candidates that inspired a young Tom Daschle's interest in politics (one you might guess and the other you won't)…The progressive political tradition of South Dakota…Senator Daschle talks about his “hero” and “mentor” George McGovern…Senator Daschle talks about his own service in the military and why it made him a better member of Congress…Memories of his time as a Senate staffer in the 70s during Watergate and the end of the Vietnam War…The factor that led Congressman Daschle to have a special relationship with Speaker Tip O'Neill…Winning three 50-50 races over the course of 8 years to win both a House and then a Senate seat…The story behind the unique name of the Daschle campaign committee…The story of how a first term Congressman Tom Daschle received a convention vote for Vice President in 1980…The decision to make the jump from the House to the Senate…The circuitous story behind Senator Daschle's 1-vote margin to become Senate Democratic minority leader after the 1994 election…The “up and down” relationship with President George W. Bush…Inside the decision of Jim Jeffords to switch parties and give the Democrats a brief Senate Majority in the early 00s…The legislative accomplishments of which Senator Daschle is most proud…Memories of the votes when emotions ran high on the Senate floor…How close did he get to running for President in 2004? (Very close)What made his longtime Chief of Staff Pete Rouse such an effective staffer…Senator Daschle talks his relationship with Barack Obama…A window into his current work with The Daschle Group…The Daschle pitch for us all to visit South Dakota…AND 50-50 Senates, 66 counties, Jim Abdnor, Aberdeen, Jim Abourezk, agent orange, Madeline Albright, anthrax, the anti-war movement, the Badlands, Howard Baker, biofuels, the Bipartisan Policy Center, the Black Hills, Robert Byrd, CHIPs, Bill Clinton, the Cold War, Kent Conrad, Nathan Daschle, Chris Dodd, Bob Dole, Byron Dorgan, dugout press conferences, the Dust Bowl, early out programs, Food for Peace, the fragility of democracy, Bill Frist, Fritz Hollings, John Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, Bob Kerrey, Trent Lott, George May, John McCain, Jim Messina, Bob Michel, the Missouri River, George Mitchell, the National Democratic Institute, Ben Nighthorse Campbell, Omaha, Claude Pepper, populist traditions, regional whips, Franklin Roosevelt, Jim Sasser, the Senate Democratic Policy Committee, the Sioux River, Mo Udall, the Vietnam War, war heroes, Watergate…& more!

Mindy Myers has a knack for being where political history happens and, more importantly, has run and won tough Senate races. She managed Sheldon Whitehouse in 2006 over Linc Chafee and ran Elizabeth Warren's first political race in 2012...then was the first ever woman to serve as E.D of the DSCC. Now she's started MZL Media to put into practice what she's learned winning tough races. And even as a young operative, Mindy found herself witnessing political history...working for trailblazing Congresswoman Pat Schroder, interning in the Clinton White House during impeachment, the Brooks Brothers' riot in Florida, the Daschle office when Jim Jeffords switched, helping Democrats win the Senate in 2006, running a state for Obama in 2008, seeing the very start of the Elizabeth Warren's political career and on and on. This was a great conversation walking through Mindy's time in politics and what she's learned along the way.IN THIS EPISODE…The 1992 Year of the Woman engages a young Mindy growing up in Lancaster, PA…Mindy interns in the office of trailblazing Congresswoman Pat Schroeder…Mindy's works in the White House during the Clinton impeachment era…Mindy's moves to Nashville to work on her first campaign in Al Gore's 2000 race…Mindy's "boiler room" memories of roller coaster election night 2000Mindy's on the ground for a first-hand account of the Brooks Brothers riot in Florida…Mindy works in the office of Senator Tom Daschle…Mindy's memories of Jim Jeffords' party switch in 2001…What Mindy learned from iconic Chief of Staff Pete Rouse…Mindy manages Sheldon Whitehouse's 2006 Senate campaign against incumbent Lincoln Chafee…Mindy explains why Linc Chafee was like “a bad boyfriend”…Mindy's advice for first-time campaign managers…Mindy runs the Obama 2008 general election in New Hampshire…Mindy runs Elizabeth Warren's first Senate race in 2012…Mindy's tips for Hill Chiefs of Staff…Mindy's time as the first woman to serve as the ED of the DSCC…How many phone calls with Chuck Schumer are part of an average week for the ED of the DSCC?Mindy's memories of the upset victory of Doug Jones over Roy Moore in 2017…Mindy's decision to launch the new media firm MZL Media...Mindy's take on how to run effective Independent Expenditure campaigns…Mindy's “guiding principles” of how candidates should choose consultants…...AND 36 days in Florida 2000, Paul Ambrosino, John Anzalone, ballot watching in Volusia County, Michele Ballantyne, Richard Blumenthal, Donna Brazile, Scott Brown, Pat Buchanan, Mark Childress, Hillary Clinton, Tom Delay, Monica Dixon, Mike Donilon, fabulous memos, Vic Fazio, Donnie Fowler, Franklin & Marshall College, Mandy Grunwald, Joe Hansen, Tim Johnson, Doug Jones, John King, Roger Lau, Tracey Lewis, John McCain, Linda McMahon, Roy Moore, Janet Murguía, obscure Vermont radio, Mark Patterson, Peoples' Pledge, Pete Rouse, Pat Schroeder, Jeanne Shaheen, Arlen Specter, Chris Van Hollen, Michael Whouley, Lynn Yeakel, Sarah Callahan Zusi…& more!

The former Senate majority leader Tom Daschle just slithered out of his political cave to deliver a stern warning to this fellow democrats. Daschle says that impeaching Trump is a big mistake... Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers

Senator Daschle helped lead America post 9/11 and also was one of only two in US history to serve twice as both Majority and Minority leader. Tom shares about his experiences as a US Senator, his role prior to the implementation of the Affordable Care Act, and his outlook on healthcare in America.

As marijuana legalization marches state by state across the United States, expectations are high for adoption even in conservative areas such as South Dakota. In this special episode of News & Views – recorded at MJBizCon in Las Vegas – Kyle Detweiler, CEO of Clever Leaves, and Tom Daschle, former majority leader for the U.S. Senate and now a lobbyist with ties to cannabis, spoke with Marijuana Business Daily‘s finance reporter, Nick Thomas, about: The outlook for South Dakota. How public sentiment is driving change at the national level. Expectations for national legalization in the near future. Subscribe to our podcasts on iTunes, Stitcher and here on our site!

Former Majority Leader and Senator Tom Daschle, who last year joined the Board of Advisors for Clever Leaves is this week’s guest on The Green Rush! Senator Daschle is one of the longest serving Senate Democratic leaders in history and one of only two to serve twice as both Majority and Minority Leader. In 1978, […]

Chuck Schumer thinks the Senate should call impeachment witnesses. Not so fast, Senator. That's not how it works. James Comey thinks he's been vindicated, depending on what the meaning of vindication is. Calling Bill Clinton for a definition!

There's nothing we love more than organizations that enjoy being innovative and creative, especially when we can collaborate together for one great event! We recently partnered together with our fabulous friends at the Sioux Falls Young Professionals Network on the 2019 Crossroads Summit. Listen in on this week's episode of “The Good Work,” as we sit down with Kayla and Daschle (and Kristin in spirit) to talk all things professional! We hope you enjoy this week's installment now!

Former Senate Majority Leaders Tom Daschle and Trent Lott, two of the most prominent political leaders of our time, join Shannon Fisher to discuss their book, Crisis Point: Why We Must - and How We Can - Overcome Our Broken Politics in Washington and Across America. In Crisis Point, Daschle and Lott offer perspectives from opposing sides of the aisle. The book examines the polarizing partisanship that has made governing all but impossible in today's political climate. They offer solutions for moving beyond the gridlock to jump-start productivity and bring a spirit of bipartisanship back to our federal government. Topics covered are the open seat on the Supreme Court of the United States, current Congressional leadership, the Presidential election, and several other pressing issues in American politics. Our Lives with Shannon Fisher explores personal, political, and societal perspectives of the American experience. The show delves deeply into the worlds of writers, artists, celebrities, and community leaders and offers listeners food for thought on ways to better themselves and the world around them. Follow Shannon on Twitter: @MsShannonFisher. Copyrighted podcast solely owned by the Authors on the Air Global Radio Network, LLC. #TomDaschle #TrentLott #CrisisPoint #PoliticalPolarization #PartisanGridlock #SenateMajorityLeader #UnitedStatesConstitution #Government #Politics #Senate #Congress #BipartisanPolicyCenter #SCOTUS #Election2016 #AuthorInterviews #Authors #Writers #Books #AuthorsOnTheAir #Radio #Podcast #ShannonFisher #MsShannonFisher

PJ Hoffman is the Director of Regulatory Affairs at Electronic Transactions Associations (ETA), a trade association composed of over 500 organizations from the FinTech space, such as PayPal, Square, and Amazon. Raised in Downers Grove, Illinois B.S. in Political Science from Illinois Wesleyan University J.D., University of Miami School of Law First job in politics: interned for Sen. Dick Durbin during college.  Drove 1.5 hours each way to the office, 3 times a week. Extensive campaign experience for former Sen. Majority Leader Tom Daschle, Sen. Bill Nelson, and Senator Joe Donnelly. Worked in advocacy and regulatory affairs for the National Association of Federal Credit Unions (NAFCU) “If I am going to make a move, it is going to be taking a chance to work for the best.” - PJ Hoffman Hoffman's position at the Electronic Transactions Association includes wearing both a state government and federal affairs hat. Hoffman oversees the State regulatory affairs campaigns in all 50 states and U.S. territories. This includes providing education to policymakers about the industry and providing the industry members with on the ground information. The members of the ETA lead the market of financial technology, used daily by almost everyone in the U.S.   There is no formal internship program offered by ETA but according to PJ - “If you are in D.C. and want to grab a cup of coffee, reach out. I will give you your 5 minutes and for sure help you in any way I can.” Help us grow! Leave us a rating and review - it's the best way to bring new listeners to the show.  Have a suggestion, or want to chat with Jim? Email him at: Jim@theLobbyingShow.com Follow The Lobbying Show on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter for weekly updates about the show, our guests, and more.

In Episode 50 I talk with Marty Vargas, Author of the book "A Place for you". We talk about his perseverance on finding his mother Rachel. We learn to look at yourself, and about overcoming obstacles, never give up and that things change. Marty VargasMedia Owner/ Engineer/Documentarian/Motivational Speaker/Relationship Expert.Founder: Rescue Rachel – Deterring Human Traffic, and Homelessness.The BS adoption podcast featuring people talking about entrepreneurship, marketing, and business this week. Taking a different look, a different tone. If you Elsa for getting closer to Christmas want to talk to a guy that I met at the publicity summit in New York City a couple weeks ago but invite Marty Vargas a conversation with Marty this week talking about how he found his mother living on the streets of Philadelphia and how he kind of pulled her back into society. It's different than our normal podcast but it's a message worth sharing. As we approach Christmas Marty, thanks for being on the podcast with me this week happened in my life began a little bit different remote control. I refound the string. The little infant sleeping with no with my homeless mother and I discovered buying an older couple the morning and no man went out to shovel the snow and found me sleeping there with my mom and eventually she gave me up several months later to that thing couple and I never knew my mom I was shipped away or I get you their doctor delaying my adoptive family went on to California and I grew up in the Bay Area and Vincenzo did not Cavalli was 21, 22 years later I returned to Philadelphia to find the heart of my moods on my mom how hard was it for you to know that you're given up by your mother grow up with a with a different family and then returned to you know that the quote the scene of the crime in order to find to see if your mom first will still live. Secondly, she still remembers you wound that that was a very dramatic experience growing up without her was nondramatic to me because the family that I was adopted in was so loving and kind. They were the only ones I knew you know is mom and dad, but when I found when I went to the car. My mother was very dramatic because my brother and my older brother. My adoptive old brother had come to visit us in California and he had a heart attack and died so we had to ship his body to the East Coast. When we did so it was then my cousin came up to me your name was Joanne. She said would you like to find your mom and I would like wishing she said she's Rachel and she lives in the streets and that night I could hardly sleep realizing the very woman that had brought me into this world was somewhere out there in the concrete jungle trying to supply and so that began the journey the emotional journey for me because up to that time, enthusiastic question and never thought about actually finding her and I didn't have that I didn't have the desire, none of that was in the course to my mind, hardly at all. When she asked that I was confronted with the reality and so that's when we began our journey did everything to your life up to that point was alive that you're living like a different living a lie even though you may not have known it, but then actually figured out, or to think about it after the fact, that very amazing question that you know I had to struggle with being adopted and I remember the day I was finally adopted in the paperwork went through. I was about 13 years of age and I remember reading 17 being adopted and rethinking not being original with my family. Kind of like even though my mom and dad J love me, though I was their very own flesh and blood and was never that feeling like you're not but you still have that feeling in some way because it windows come from other directions and I presented, but it wasn't until I discovered my mom and I had to process it and then when I finally got off the streets in class essay… Myself you know I have is closer to because you gave me up you know and then came to the point when I realized this was the very best thing because you know when I was working my documentary. In television I filling out ninth Street fair in the Italian market. Most listeners would remember Rocky running down the Italian market selling thing and fell. Philadelphia was there when my mother lived and I was feeling my documentary there and a woman came up to meet Jansson what are you doing to you making a documentary on the homeless woman. She said Rachel to call my mother's name out. I like wow my mom cheek against me find dead bodies of the children string different setting and used to find the yeah the dead body have her children that she would give birth Street and they would find her dead body and blew my mind in a car, a coincided with a newspaper article. I did find about my mother indicated she had given birth to a number of children about four or five children in the street. My mother was in the streets with 30+ years on 29 years and when reality hit me. Then I realized I was so fortunate to not have been one of those skilled right will told me he took kind of made tomato intimated that's wow God is a miracle. No kidding. Talk about you know getting that life changing moment in your life was was that it was at one of the moments that you're like this is why I'm here. It was life-changing images made me appreciate every day of my life. And then I understood that it was for the best unite for me being here is great for me to have survived what I went through with greater and then from even understand how blessed I was noted in the air rather than cursed. Want to bless it and so you know that became very interesting enough to experience the decking many years later after I was taking care of my mom and because eventually I was able to get off the streets because you want to come off the street. When I first found her losing on this romantic movie when I was searching street after street looking for my mom. I was put to hold you know medevac. I read newspaper articles written about my mother and one of the things that struck me the most is that newspaper reporter asked my mother. Do you ever get lonely. Do you ever cry and granted. At this point of my mother's life is been rate multiple times she's been beating stream. She has been dogged and she responded, I cannot cry and that's what gave me the impetus I have to find a have to let her know that there's still somebody out there that really cares no. And so I researched street after street throughout Philadelphia fell Philadelphia and eventually I came up to brought in federal which would like to know the main thoroughfare throughout the video of Philadelphia and I knocked on the large cathedral and the only an empty vehicle came back and then my cousin a good idea quickly down to the shelter she Joanne had been calling everything the shelter in town in order to find my mother so word was getting around Marty looking for Rachel and Rachel was not him. I can't say popular, but she was not unknown because she was sort of the fixtures. A homeless person and I remember standing before the large wooden door that was the last barrier between my dark and distant past, and I'm like Joanne, we gotta play Sage and we knock loudly in a few minutes. The door banged open in this young black woman was standing near Yasser Rachel and she recognized me she knew my mother and she said love is patient, you know that Philadelphia accent and we were led down the long cement corridor to a gymnasium in the gymnasium was totally black and only stage in the gymnasium was well lit and I met up little lady right met up into the gymnasium stage and Joanne took my hand and took my mother's hands and praying this is your son, Marty Marty this is your mother in that moment that was like wow you know the just like blew my mind. You know, and I got up I hugged her I gave her a kiss. I tried to make her feel comfortable. She only responded to me with confinement. Unbelieving J and so that night I just search for hours trying to find why did you ever become homeless without asking that question shipped and it was just such a moving experience in the very next day, and which was most mind blowing and called experience the very next day I had Daschle? I said mom I want to know who my daddy and she looked and she said how is man and I talked to Michael Lemaire is my brother, my adopted brother that I just buried regularly behind. That's why we keep you know, we buried him and cheer start coming down her cheek and little doll came to realize what was happening here is that my adoptive brother was not my you know legal only legal brother. He was actually my biological father. And so the older couple that found me sleeping in the snow that older couple were actually my real grandparents today. Did they know that note they didn't know that until at age 13 when that time I mentioned earlier that I resented being adopted and the people working through the investigation of my life and everything else with people working on the type stuff and the story came out that told me, but they knew as you're growing up so your brother actually knew that he was your father, even though it is your brother yeah yeah you and them. My you know my adoptive brother was my real biological father is something I can in a country song in their amino. I'm not trying to make it at all, but you don't mean it sounds it sounds unbelievable that I know is unbelievable in my grandparents in no until I was 13 years old when the good doctor went all the way through and never told me go from age 13 to age 21, 22, this is a total secret in all my love and then what happens. I went back to California but I couldn't rest rest and to try to get my mother off the streets. I returned back to Philadelphia now factor took about five trips from California to Philadelphia, noted the rescue my mom from off the street. It is when I went the second time I saw her as she really was, you

Thomas Andrew Daschle is an American policy advisor, lobbyist, former U.S. Senator from South Dakota, and former U.S. Senate Majority Leader. He is a member of the Democratic Party.A South Dakota native, Daschle obtained a degree at South Dakota State University, and also served in the United States Air Force. He was elected to the United States House of Representatives in 1978 and served four terms. In 1986, he was elected to the Senate, becoming minority leader in 1994. Defeated for re-election in 2004, he took a position as a policy advisor with a lobbying firm, and also became a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. He co-authored a book advocating universal health care.Tom is the co-chair of the 2017 C-TAC Summit in Washington DC. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Former Senate Majority Leaders Tom Daschle and Trent Lott, two of the most prominent political leaders of our time, join Shannon Fisher on The Authentic Woman to discuss their new book, Crisis Point: Why We Must - and How We Can - Overcome Our Broken Politics in Washington and Across America. In Crisis Point, Daschle and Lott offer perspectives from opposing sides of the aisle. The book examines the polarizing partisanship that has made governing all but impossible in today's political climate. They offer solutions for moving beyond the gridlock to jump-start productivity and bring a spirit of bipartisanship back to our federal government. Topics covered in the show are the open seat on the Supreme Court of the United States, current Congressional leadership, the Presidential election, and several other pressing issues in American politics. The Authentic Woman is a weekly radio show hosted by women's rights leader Shannon Fisher offering perspectives on the female experience in America. The show delves deeply into the worlds of writers, artists, celebrities, and community leaders. Follow Shannon on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MsShannonFisher Copyrighted podcast solely owned by the Authors on the Air Global Radio Network, LLC.

In Episode 001 of Origin Stories: A Podcast About Politics and People, longtime talk radio producer Brent Jabbour speaks with Former U.S. Senator Byron Dorgan - D-ND about how he went from growing up in a town of 300 people in North Dakota to become a member of Senate Leadership. Brent and the Senator discuss how tragedy shaped his career, their mutual admiration for Liberal talk show host Ed Schultz, the biggest highlights of what he did while in the Senate and the regret over his vote for the Iraq war. Dorgan also gives his insight to the state of politics today and the highly contested Senate election in his home state.TranscriptBrent Jabbour:This is Episode number One of Origin Stories: A Podcast About Politics and People. My name is Brent Jabbour. If you listened to Episode zero, the pilot of this particular podcast, you know that this is a podcast about discourse. About realizing that people are people and we can have that conversation.I want to thank everyone for so much support on the first episode that I put up. And it all really worked out well because we were able to get up on all the aggregator sites like we had planned. Apple ITunes, the Google Play Store, Stitcher, Spreaker, you can get the podcast there now. So, I'm really happy that you can share this, the first episode of Origin Stories: A Podcast About Politics and People. I'm going to make the intro really really short, so we can get right to the substance. Today, we speak with Byron Dorgan. He is a former Senator from the state of North Dakota, a former U.S. Senator, he was a member of Democratic leadership during the 90s and into the 2000s during the Obama administration. And, he's always been a really really nice guy to me, he's a genuine person from the middle of the country, so he can see things on both sides. And what we've done in this particular podcast is we relitigated the 2016 election just a little bit. We talked about what we can do moving forward. We talked about the highly contested Senate race coming up in November in North Dakota between Heidi Heitkamp and Kevin Cramer. And, we also talked about my good friend Ed Schultz.The Reason I had put Byron Dorgan at the top of the list of people to speak with is that not only because I knew he had been there and done it. But, also because I knew he was always a good friend of my buddy Ed. And, he was always a great friend of the show, but they also had a personal relationship. So, we talked about him. I would say, we spent a good ten minutes talking about him and how tragedy in his personal life had directed him into the world of politics. And I just kind of related that back to the fact that this is why I am doing this because I was inspired following the passing of my good friend Ed. And so that is why we are here. There was something I wanted to get to but I didn't actually record it on the episode because I was a little nervous. And I will explain that nervousness right now. Well before I ever thought about doing politics or working in political talk radio I was a disk jockey on Y94 in Fargo, North Dakota. And, every year they would do the Care for Kids Radiothon which is a fundraiser for a children's hospital. We would record all of these pieces and you would get these heartfelt pieces from families that were affected or helped at the children's hospital in Fargo, North Dakota. And you would get these actualities as well from famous people, newsmakers, people from the area. And, one time I was doing my shift and I got a call from the boss and said: "Hey Senator Byron Dorgan's going to call in and send a little message to those who want to support the Care for Kids Radiothon." And I remember being so nervous to speak with a sitting United States Senator and have him call and speak with me. I remember being very professional. Yes Sir, No Sir. Please say that, Please do that. Thank you so much. And of course, he was a gentleman, as he always was. And I wanted to bring that up with him, but I mentioned it to him, but was still trying figure out the kinks in recording as we started recording that particular episode. Because that was the first one that we recorded. I just had a lot of memory with Byron Dorgan. He was very important in my head when I started this project. I'm not going to spend too much time wasting away here. So let's get to the Business. This is Episode one of Origin Stories: A Podcast About Politics and People with Byron Dorgan. I want to get in a quick thank you to my friend John Kneip and his Band NASAWives for providing the intro music here. And my friend Noel "Scotch" Anderson for providing all of the very cool imagery that you see on the website, on Facebook, and Twitter. I've received a lot of positive feedback on that. Without further ado. Episode one. Byron Dorgan. Here we go!Brent Jabbour: Number one, I guess the first question I would have is how does somebody who is a senator from North Dakota become a member of Democratic Leadership? And you know, it is not the most progressive state in the country, and you were one of the top Senators going at it while you were in the Senate. Senator Byron Dorgan - D-ND:Well, part of that background was that I was a good friend of Thom Daschle. Thom was from South Dakota. We've been best friends for a long long time, both when we were in the U.S. House together; the U.S. Senate together. And, when Thom was elected Democratic Leader, he asked me to be part of his leadership team, and asked me to be the assistant Democratic Floor Leader, and then subsequently the chairman of the Democratic Policy Committee as well. Brent:Was that a big deal for you, being from the middle of the country? To be able to espouse, along with Senator Daschle as well... You guys had a good leadership body, that was not the California/New York leadership that you see now. Senator Dorgan: No, that's True. Now what we see in the Congress. Just to give you a statistic, in the U.S. House, thirty percent of the Democratic Caucus come from just two states, New York and California. We've become far too much of a coastal Party. And, Good for New York and California. There is an old campaign guru who used to always say "You pick cherries where cherries is." What he meant by that, you know you go where the votes are and get em out. It is also the case that you have to plant more cherry trees, right. Good for California and New York, but we need to have a more robust effort in the heartland of the country. Brent:I think we've all talked about it, that is probably why Trump won. Because he was able to connect with those people. Now, North Dakota is probably not going to vote for a Democrat in many scenarios. Obviously, they have the Senators or Senator with Sen. Heitkamp, and you and Sen. Conrad were there. At one Time there were three Democrats representing the state of North Dakota.Sen. Dorgan:For eighteen straight years, in Fact.Brent:But What is it going to take for Democrats to start to understand those people? Sen. Dorgan:Well, I don't think it is a case of Democrats not understanding people. I ran eleven statewide elections in North Dakota as a Democrat and was very successful. So, it is about retail politics. People want to know: Do they get to see you and know you? Do they trust you? Do they like you? And if they know, see, trust and like you, they don't care what party you are from. They want to send somebody to Congress that they trust and they like.So, I think what has happened in North Dakota and much of the heartland is there has not been a national Democratic message to say, here's what our party's about. Our Party is about helping family farmers have a bridge over difficult times. Our party's about working men and women, who are working hard at their jobs and want job security and want opportunities for promotion and so on. Our party is about the people that know about seconds. Second shift, second job, second hand. That is who our party is about. I think our party doctrine has always been, at least for me, is when everybody does well, everybody does well. It's like a wagon train, a wagon train in the old west used to only go as fast as the slowest wagon. So, you don't leave people behind. Brent:I Think what you are saying, I completely agree with. However, the Democrats have left those people behind. Every voting block that you just discussed farmers, workers. Those people voted for Donald Trump because he spoke to them. That is where I'm saying we're not messaging properly to Democrats. If that makes sense to you.Sen. Dorgan:Look, I don't think Democratic presidential candidates who really should be carrying the message, they should have the message of what do we stand for as a Democratic Party. I don't think they even campaign in much of the country. They just give up before the campaign starts and say well that's a red state and we're not going to a red state. People in large swaths of the heartland of America never hear much about the message from the megaphone that comes from a national Democratic candidate. Boy, I am a strong believer in saying if you want to run for President, you don't give up any state. You run everywhere, and you push hard to get that message out. Because I still think people respond to that message no matter where they live. Brent:So I told you when we started this, it is going to be a little bit about you. So I want to talk about young Byron Dorgan. What was it like growing up in North Dakota?Sen. Dorgan: Well, I grew up in a town of 300 people. That was my first 18 years. It was a farm community. We raised some horses and cattle. My Dad ran a gas station in town. But we also raised horses and cattle. I graduated in a high school senior class of nine students. You're never far away from the top or the bottom of those classes. But, I knew everyone in town. Everyone knew me. It's just a town of 300 people. It's where I think I learned character. It's where I developed my values system. It comes from my parents and the community I grew up in about what is right and what is wrong. How do you make judgments about that? I have always been enormously proud of growing up in a tiny little town in southwestern North Dakota. Brent:Do you think that helped you communicate better? Like you said everybody in this town of 300 people knew each other. So it sets you up in a way for being in Congress because there are four hundred and some odd Representatives, while one hundred Senators. But, it gives you that opportunity to communicate with everybody because you are used to that type of tight-knit community. Sen. Dorgan:Absolutely, In a town of three hundred people, you have a microcosm of America. You have a few people who would drink too much and get drunk. We had some old retired guys who would play pinochle at the bar all day. We had some people who were debating should we put pavement on our main street as opposed to having a gravel main street. And, while some people were pushing to do that, other people were pushing saying we didn't want to spend the money. It's a microcosm of our country and the decisions our country makes. But it's also an ability to understand how you get along with people because you have to get along. If you are in a town of three hundred people and you don't get along with a handful of them, that's pretty sad. So you learn to get along. I just learned a lot from that town. Brent:I think that makes sense too, in the way that you can't ostracize anybody in a town that small because there are only 300 people, and where are they going to find anything else. Sen. Dorgan:And to me, when I look at that town, the progressives in that town were the ones saying alright let's build, let's progress, let's change. And the others were saying, nope, and were against all of it. But, nonetheless, they come to some conclusion. I know this a silly story, but it's a lesson that I sit here and remember vividly. So, my job was to clean the barn on Saturday's so, we had a pickup truck and shoveling manure into the pickup truck. We were fairly close to town, so they had a dump grounds in town. And, I was to take that manure to the dump grounds. My dad drove the gas truck, as well, for the service station. and, he saw that I had dumped the manure outside the fence of the dump grounds. And, he came back that night and said, "I saw you did not dump that inside the dump grounds, you dumped it outside the fence." I said I did that because I thought I was going to get stuck, it had just rained, so I was afraid I would get stuck. He said, "Well, there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things, and you dumped it in the wrong place. You go out and you put it back on the pickup truck, and haul it in the dump grounds and dump it there." So, the next day, I'm out there shoveling that manure for the second time, and I'm swearing and upset, but you know what it's a lesson that I remember sitting here today. Do things the right way. No shortcuts. Brent:And the it's better to do it once right than to do it twice. Sen. Dorgan:I remember that lesson. And I told my dad some decades later. You know what, I didn't like the lesson, but I learned it really well, and have never forgotten it. Brent:Where did you to college again? I know you went to the University of Denver later for graduate school...Sen. Dorgan:I went to the University of North Dakota. It was 365 miles from regent to the University. I worked on cars. My dad had a gas station, so I had a hoist. I would put my car on the hoist and work on it. And I was a big fan of working on cars. And, I did everything to it. I had an old Ford, I put a Mercury grill on it, I cut out with a welder cut out the old grill, and put a mercury grill on it. I put Plymouth continental kit on it.And then, ultimately I drove off the first time to go to college, and I was picked up for speeding on my first trip. And the highway patrolman took me back to his car and he is giving me the ticket. And he looked at my car, and he looked it over, and he said "son, what was that car before you started butchering it?" And I haven't forgotten that either. Brent:You know this is another interesting thing we talk about with people who grew up on farms. When was the first time you drove a vehicle? Probably on the farm when you were a young teenager, right? Sen. Dorgan:Oh, eleven or twelve. Because we had a pickup truck. And, you know, when we are out on the pasture, hauling hay and stuff. I was supposed to be in that pickup truck, doing stuff. But, you just learn really early, I could barely see over the steering wheel. Now, I wasn't off a highway at age twelve. But, my dad always expected me to move the pick up truck just a bit. So, you'd get in, get the shift going and the clutch. Brent:You could drive the tractor down the highway...Sen. Dorgan:We had an old tractor, which we called a co-op tractor, which farmers would know. Somehow, it went much faster than any other tractor. I just remember being in that seat of that co-op tractor, driving down the road and going to beat the band. Brent:So, when you were in college at the University of North Dakota. What did you do in your free time? When you weren't studying, probably working a little bit. What were you doing in your free time? Sen. Dorgan:Well, I worked... I did a lot of jobs when I was in College. I was a bank teller. I sold shoes at J.C. Penny's. I had a lot of part-time jobs. So, that's what I did. I was very interested in athletics. I loved basketball, football, all those things. I didn't play varsity in college. I have always enjoyed athletics as well. Brent: What do you do now in your free time? You technically retired, but I'm sitting here in your office, it doesn't quite look like you've retired. Sen. Dorgan:No, no, I haven't retired. I've been teaching for some years at Georgetown University. I am on 4 boards of directors and boards of advisors on companies. Three of them in California, one in Chicago. I'm writing my fifth book right now, I just submitted the first manuscript to the publisher. I am a Senior Fellow at the bipartisan policy center. I'm doing a lot of things.Brent:It sounds like a lot of work. What are you doing to relax?Sen. Dorgan:Well, I like to work. But, I like to play tennis. I have played tennis all my life. I like to play golf. I like to travel, I just came back from France. I was on a cycling trip. I rode probably about 180 miles in southern France with a bunch of people on a bicycle. So I do a lot of things, and I enjoy it all.Brent:There are a lot of successful businessmen, I don't know why, when you said, "I'm teaching at Georgetown." In my brain, I'm thinking a kid from a town of 300 people in North Dakota is teaching at one of the most prestigious universities in the country, maybe in the world. I mean, I know they come from all over. But, I lived in North Dakota for about 10 years, and I noticed you would look people up, and realize, this guy was born in Bismarck, ND.It's just a strange place because a lot of people look at it as a backwoods state. It's the middle of the country, nobody cares. There are a lot of plains, a lot of farms, it's cold, is that what gives people...Sen. Dorgan:I Don't know. It's really interesting. My career was very unusual politically. I didn't plan on being a politician. I have a masters degree in business, an MBA degree. I thought I would be a businessman all my life. and things happen. So at age 26, I was appointed to fill a vacancy by Governor Guy in a constitutional office, because someone who had just been elected died. And, he chose me. I was as surprised as anybody in North Dakota at age 26.Brent:What were you doing then? That was the North Dakota tax commissioner? That was the position you were in? Sen. Dorgan:That was born of tragedy. The origin of other people's lives can be profoundly affected by tragedy. So, I was in the Aerospace industry, had gone to work in the aerospace industry directly out of graduate school in Colorado. And I came back to a funeral, my grandfather's funeral. And somebody told me you should talk to this guy who just was elected to office in North Dakota. His name was Ed Sjaastad. He had come from a town called Tagus, North Dakota, 80 people. And graduated from Harvard Law School. And, he had just won election to State Tax Commissioner. And, I said no... I'm not... and they said, no he wants to hire a young MBA, go talk to him. I said, but I'm in Denver, I'm in the aerospace industry. But, I did go up and talk to him, and I was so inspired by him. I just thought, man, what an inspiring guy, 36-37 years old. So I decided to go back to North Dakota and work for him. And I did, I worked there a year and a half. And, he was a mentor and a friend, and a boss. And, I walked into his office one morning at 8 o'clock in the morning and found him dead. He had taken his own life. I can't even begin to describe the drama and the trauma. I was 26 years old, and I had lost a friend and mentor. What a great, great tragedy because he was such an extraordinary human. And, so six weeks later. The governor called me down to his office and said I want to appoint you to his unexpired term. I mean, I was the most surprised guy in the world. And so, from that, I ran for office and ran for office again. Ran for the House, and again, and again, and again, six times. Then ran for the Senate again and again and again. And you know, I had a career for many many many decades in North Dakota serving in public office. I was enormously grateful for the opportunity. It was a great privilege. And yet, I came to the end, and then the question is, the next choice is seven years. Run for election this year, win and serve six more. And those seven-year choices become much more difficult because I wanted to do more things. I wanted to, having been in Congress for 30 years, and the Senate for 18 years. I wanted to write more books, which I'm doing, I have written 3 since I left. And, I wanted to teach, I'm teaching at Georgetown University. I wanted to serve on some boards, and so on... So that is kind of a synopsis of how all of this happened. It's like every other piece of the decision tree of life. It's always binary, It's always yes or no. And when you say yes or no, it profoundly changes the branch on that decision tree. And, I have just been very fortunate and have loved everything I've done. Brent:And, you know, your story of tragedy, of your friend. That is kind of where I am right now. That's why we are recording this and speaking with you. Ed Schultz was my friend. He was my mentor. He was a great boss. He took me all over. And, when he unexpectedly passed. A lot, of people, asked me, especially over that time, who is going to carry that mantle. And, I don't think by any means I'm going to carry that mantle. I don't have any intention to be the next Ed Schultz. But I thought I would be doing a disservice if I didn't talk to a lot of people, you were close friends with him, talk to a lot of those people. I thought also, It's something possibly I wanted to do anyway. Which is get the background on people, talk about the issues that affect people, and how things are going. And, I never wanted to step on his toes. Not that I ever think that he would have ever been unhappy with me. He would always be very happy that I want to grow. But I said at the time you know what, that's Ed's thing right now, and we let him do that. And, when this unexpected turn happened, I said, you know what, maybe it's my time to do a little bit of something. And try to do something that would make him proud. So, I thoroughly understand what you were saying there. Sen. Dorgan: Look, all of us suffer loss. It's part of our lives, it just is. And no matter what you're doing or where you are, the question is, not whether you will suffer loss, it's how you will get through it. I remember, my mother was killed in a manslaughter incident in 1986 driving on the streets of Bismarck North Dakota. Coming home from a hospital visit. My daughter died during heart surgery when I was in the Senate. It is unbelievably hard to get through a loss, and some people never do, and some people can.My Mother, and my daughter, and my friend Ed Sjaastad, the fact is they are with me. Their part of my memory bank. I call on them a lot. The key for all of us to understand, life is about success, and it's about failure, it's about building and creating, and losing sometimes. It's always picking yourself up and brushing your hat off and moving straight on ahead and moving forward. Ed Schultz, just to end this part of the discussion, Ed Schultz was such a big personality. And, generous, he would give you the shirt off his back if you needed it. He was a remarkable person. But, because he was such a big personality and a force of personality, all of us who were friends of Ed's, were stunned by the loss of Ed in our lives. He was quite a remarkable guy. Brent:I know, one of the biggest things that people who were close to him say, is we are going to miss that phone call of him saying. "What's going on?" And he didn't always mean that as a what's going on with you. But, he did care, but he also wanted to know what you thought about what was going on. And, that, I always thought, he always cared what everyone else thought. He may not agree with you. But he wanted to absorb that information and have that conversation. Sen. Dorgan:The hallmark of Ed was confidence. He was unbelievably confident, and you could see it, and smell it, and feel it. I've seen Ed come into rooms...Just a quick story. Senator (Debbie) Stabenow and I were going to invite radio talkers from around the country who were, progressive or Democratic talkers to come into our nation's capital and have a discussion together. It never happened before. So Debbie and I brought them in. There were about twenty or thirty of them in this room in the Hart Building. And, I swear to you, Ed took over the room instantly. He gave a little presentation and wow. And there was an agent there and of course, that agent signed Ed to a radio a contract. And that set Ed on a remarkable career, on national radio and national television. It's a remarkable thing.I think it all stems from unbelievable confidence. It's about being a football quarterback, it's about all the things that made Ed Schultz. He was quite remarkable. Brent:I think, even when I sent you an email asking if you would do this. I discussed the confidence he instilled in me. There was no question. I don't think I ever heard him say he didn't know if this is right or not. Not only did he always think he was right, but he also made relatively good decisions. You may disagree with his takes on certain things, but he always did it from the right place. From a place where he could explain to you, this is why I think this way. It wasn't just a blanket statement because I don't feel like arguing it. It was a statement and this is why I feel that way. I always appreciated that so much. Alright, on to books. You have written a couple of books. There was one called Take this Job and Ship it correct? But you also wrote Gridlock and Blowout, which are thrillers, if you will. I think that is the correct description. Why fiction, why did you think that was a thing to get into?Sen. Dorgan:The interesting thing is, I had done two books about economic issues. And, the publisher, a New York publisher, and I had an agent in New York. And, my agent called me and said, how would you like to do a couple of novels? And I said. You know, I've not written fiction before. And he said, How about co-authoring a couple of them? I said I'd be interested in talking about it. So we talked about it, and I decided, you know what, it's something I've not done, it's something I'd like to do. So, I did it. And it was very interesting. I may do it again, we'll see. The book I'm writing now, it's my fifth book, is a book that is a true story. But, who knows, I may go back to fiction. You know, if you wrote fiction, and wrote what was going on today in our country and in Washington D.C. people would say that's way beyond fiction.Brent:And I was going to say. I had wondered about those books. You coming from a policy perspective, and those are about oil and ecological issues. And I thought, maybe, you got involved because this is a way to get those messages out about these important issues that will give people an entertaining read without me beating them over the head with it. Without me feeling like I'm lecturing you about...Sen. Dorgan:Yeah, that is some of it. Absolutely. In fact, I'll tell you the ideas for both books.The idea for the first book, the first novel, came from something I read in the Wall Street Journal. And it was a news story, a small one, about five years before, and it said there is a persistent rumor that either the Chinese or the Russians had put a virus in the American electric grid system that would allow them to turn off the electric grid if we were in a war. The news story just kept talking about persistent rumors, but nobody every verified it. And I just thought, that would be fascinating to write about. How would a foreign power turn off the electric grid system and cause chaos in our country?The other one was a piece I read about, and I had met a guy who did this, Craig Venter, who is a remarkable genius. He did part of the Human Genome project with Dr. Francis Collins and so on. But, he contracted with Exxon and they were working to put microbes in a coal seam under the earth, microbes are bacteria, have them develop a language for bacteria that would say to them, eat your way through the coal seam and leave methane in its wake. So you would actually turn coal into methane underground. And I thought that's fascinating. So that became the idea for the second novel. Brent:I think you are a much better novelist than you think. Because I think that's pretty much how alot of these guys come up with their ideas. I've seen Stephen King wrote 10 o'clock people, or something of that nature is one of his novels. He basically, wrote it because he would drive down the street, and he would see outside of this office everyday smoking cigarettes. And it was all of them at the same time smoking cigarettes, and he came up with this idea of who are these people? So that is the way good fiction works, kind of a what if. I think you are doing a heck of a job there. Sen. Dorgan:On the book about a virus shutting down the electric grid. I have a Russian agent that has the virus that he's stolen, an Iranian secret agent purchase it from him. And then the Iranian secret agents, they hire a drug-addled hacker living in a commune in Amsterdam to begin shutting down the electric grid in America. It's kind of a fanciful story, but it was a fun one to write. Brent:Do you read a lot of, I guess that is the Tom Clancy style novel, is that something you are interested in?Sen. Dorgan:I don't read as much fiction. I read a lot of non-fiction, but I don't read as much fiction. Brent:When you read non-fiction are you reading more biographies?Sen. Dorgan:Yeah, I just finished a book called "Bad Blood in Silicon Valley," about the Theranos Fraud. I mean those are the things I read a lot about. Brent:When you were in your time in public service, or in your professional life, we will use professional outside of personal. What are you most proud of that you have done? Sen. Dorgan:There is a lot. Just a lot of things. In terms of policy, in fact, I'm still working on it today. I helped, I was one of the authors of the Renewable Fuel Standard. We keep putting these steel straws into the planet earth and sucking oil out, which is good, and natural gas and such, and I'm for that. I supported oil and gas development in our state. But, we need to do more than that. Because we can produce fuels from renewable fuels. Which diversify our fuel source. And it also means less carbon into the airshed. So I wrote the Renewable Fuel Standard, the RFS. And we've built a huge ethanol industry and a huge biodiesel industry as a result of it. I helped prompt the start of a wind energy revolution in the country. So, I've done a lot of things I'm really proud of. And some of it is things just dealing with individuals. I got a letter last week from a woman in Devils Lake, ND. And she said, Senator Dorgan, she said, about fifteen years ago, you got involved for my father who had a form of cancer and needed a certain type of treatment, and he was turned down for reimbursement for that treatment. And you got involved with the V.A. and others and got him the treatment he needed. She said, he just died last week, but we got 15 years of life with my dad thanks to you. And, I thought, what a remarkable woman to send me a note 15 years later to say thanks for what you did for my dad. Those are the things that I really care much about. The things you can do for people that make a difference in their lives. Brent:As far as policy goes, is there one thing you wish you could take back?Sen. Dorgan:Oh sure. The vote authorizing George W. Bush to take military action in the Gulf war. Now, the vote required him to do a number of other things, which he did not do. But, when Colin Powell and Dick Cheney and Condoleezza Rice and others were giving us top-secret briefings, day after day after day, they made the case they knew there biological weapons and nuclear weapons and so on that threaten our country. And it turns out they were wrong. And it also turns out, now, that I know, I know for a fact that some of what was told to us in top-secret briefings misrepresented the facts, and some of it deliberately misrepresented the facts. And was told to us by people at the highest levels of government in a way that wasn't just not accurate, but was false. And demonstrably false. And they knew at the time it was demonstrably false. And that really bothers me. Because no one ever really did the investigation that should have been done following that. Brent:Yeah, I was going to bring that up. I feel like many in the far left community had always been saying arrest Bush and Cheney, they're war criminals. And, I know that is not a stretch, some could make that case. But the fact is, is that what you just told me there, that in top-secret briefings, people knowingly misrepresented the facts. I mean there is no recourse, none of those people were punished for that. I mean, with the exception of Colin Powell having to eventually admit, that he lied. Or he says that he was...Sen. Dorgan:He says he was duped. But he was the gold standard as far as I'm concerned. I mean I think Colin Powell is widely respected. And, he went on live television at the United Nations and said, look here is what the Iraqis have. And mobile chemical weapons laboratories, he went right through the whole thing. Turns out, it was all a crock because they were using testimony by a known fabricator from Iraq, who used to drive a taxi cab in Bagdad. He was in the custody of the Germans and the Germans told the Americans "we think he is a fabricator." And yet, they used a substantial amount of that, not just that but more as well, for Colin Powel's presentation. And, it was a devastating thing to do for this country because we got involved in a very long war that cost a lot of lives. It's a war in my judgment that we shouldn't have fought. Brent: Kent Conrad voted against the war in Iraq, correct?Sen. Dorgan:He Did.Brent:Did you guys have conversations about that? I mean, as far as while that vote was coming up... He's a colleague of yours for many many years.Sen. Dorgan:Yea, We seldom ever split our vote on those kinds of things. We split our vote on a Supreme Court nominee at one point, I think on Alito. We split our vote on that as well. The Authorization for the President to use force. And, I just came out in a different place. Had I known, what I know now, I never ever would have voted for it. But, you know, it's too late to correct all those things. I regret casting that vote, I believed in the presentations that were made to members of Congress by people who had very solid reputations, who turned out to not have such solid reputations. Brent:Do you think it's hard for people, lawmakers especially, to admit they were wrong?Sen. Dorgan:Sure... Yeah... And the reason for that is, I think there is a punishment by the voters from time to time, to take a look at somebody, and let's say the person running against this person that changed their mind, says well this is a flip-flopper. They're a weather vein. They change their mind based on how the wind is blowing. And I think people buy that argument so they don't want members of Congress to change their mind. On the other hand, it's really important if members of Congress see new information or have a change of heart, they ought to change their mind. Because I think, the voters want to look at somebody and say, that's somebody I think is authentic. They care about things, researches things, and come out with the right approach. Brent:I was recently having a conversation with a friend of mine about (Senator) Heidi Heitkamp and (Congressman) Kevin Cramer running in the state of North Dakota. Kevin has always been polite to me, Heidi, not so much, but that's neither here nor there. But I had to draw the distinction of the play Hamilton, where I said, I'm not a North Dakota voter anymore, so I can't make this decision. But given the choice between Heidi and Kevin going to the Senate, I would almost give Kevin Cramer that vote. And I will tell you why. I disagree with him wholeheartedly on almost everything, but I feel like he stands for something. He stands for things, and I feel like Heidi is in a position where she is just trying to make voters happy in North Dakota, and so she is kind of everywhere. And she's not helping the Democratic voters at all, and she is not helping her constituents either.I'm not asking you to bag on Heidi, by any means... Sen. Dorgan:Let me tell ya. Look, Heidi is in a state, that is more conservative than it was. And, she's trying to navigate through some difficult circumstances. You can't keep everybody happy. And, if you try, you fail. And she is trying to demonstrate and has done so effectively, to North Dakotans that she is independent. She's not going to just swallow the party line every time they say something. That is contrary to what Kevin Cramer does. Look, Kevin Cramer is fine as far as I'm concerned, but I would never vote for someone who says well whatever Trump wants that fine with me. Especially at a time when Pres. Trump is slapping on lots of tariffs ad-hoc, ad hominem and injuring the price of hogs and soybean and corn. And Kramer says, well that's okay. Whatever Trump wants Trump gets. I would never be in a situation to subscribe to that. I respect your views and I think both people are people of good character, but they believe very different things.So, when I grew up in North Dakota, you would sooner cut off your hand at the wrist then talk about religion. I mean, I went to the little Lutheran Church in Region North Dakota and religion was private. You didn't go talk about your religion, but you went to church and prayed and you went every Sunday because you should, and wanted to. These days, we have people wearing religion on their sleeves. Kevin is one of them and boy, I don't know. I worry about a lot of people that wear religion on their sleeves and use it politically and tell other people what to do with respect to their religious beliefs and so on. Brent: Well, I have this big theory on politics. That, it's basically sport now. The reason people want to use religion, it because its the easiest argument to have with somebody, that "God would be unhappy if you did this." How am I going to argue with that? How do I make an argument against that? Obviously, there are social issues at face, but its almost become just an Evangelical Christians, they're Republicans who don't want to go against God. God is a Republican, clearly, in their mind and I think that's just become part of this larger game that people are playing. There is very little reality in the political spectrum I feel like anymore, especially in the Federal system. Sen. Dorgan: Yeah, but you know, look, I get these things. So a president has his attorney pay $130,000 to a porn star to shut her up, right? Or a Pres. says, I'm gonna separate thousands of kids at the border from their parents and we won't even keep track of where they all came from and so it's going to be hard putting them all back. That's not Christian. These aren't Christian values you're talking about right? So, that's what bothers me. We're kind of in uncharted territory when anybody uses religion as some sort of a test in terms of their own personal view of religion. So, I don't know. The key, I think, politically, for Heidi, and I'm a fan of Heidi's. I think she's authentic. I like her a lot, and I think she is a good Senator and will make a good Senator the next term as well. But, the key is, you can't please everybody, but you chart a course that you think is best for our state and our country and you take the President on when you should. You support him when you think it's reasonable. I understand what Heidi's doing. Support it. Think she's the right choice. So we'll see. The fact is, it's going to be a contested election and probably pretty close. In the end, I think Heidi will win. Brent:Democrats keep talking about this blue wave in 2018, now that we're kind of on the election here. Is that a reality, because I don't see it. Number one, I'll tell you why we have no blue wave. Gerrymandering in the house is out of control Democrats are going to need a big, big push to be able to win in the house and we don't have enough seats in the Senate available to us. I think eight Republicans are up? Eight or ten. I can't think off hand. Sen. Dorgan:I think it's eight. Brent:So, you're looking at the this and there are Democrats out there, I mean, I get the e-mails every day from all kinds of candidates who are basically telling Democrats that they're ready to take this back. Do we have to be realistic here or do the good vibes help to push this forward? Sen. Dorgan:My thought is that there's going to be, I don't know whether it's a blue wave, but there's going to be a wave of people who show up at the polls. Who are pretty incented to try to send Donald Trump a message. The old Claude Pepper, the oldest man in the U.S. House when I showed up there. He used to say, "The Constitution gives the American people this miracle. Every second year, they get to grab the steering wheel. Every second year, the American people grab that steering wheel and decide which way do they steer America. I think given what's happening in the White House more recently, the last couple years, I think they want to do that. Now, I think they wanted to do it with Trump as well. I mean, i think Trump's message was pretty clear. He said things that were disqualifying to me. I mean, he'd stand up on the trail and say, "I support torture." Well, somebody supports torture and my judgment should not be elected? He said, "I think we should consider allowing Japan and the Saudies and South Korea to have nuclear weapons." In my judgment, that just disqualifies him because he doesn't think through these things. Having said all that, the American people elected him and he did get three-million fewer votes than Hillary, but they elected him and they did it because I think they looked at him and went, "you know what? If he goes to the White House, he's going to break some glass and kick some you-know-what and I kind of want to see someone kick them all around." So, I think that's why people voted for him. Brent:I have this theory too. Which is that possibly the country will never be the same after this. I don't mean that in a good way, but I also don't necessarily mean it in a bad way. The way I see it, Trump is doing well enough, and he's appeased his base enough; the people who voted for him. Whether steel and aluminum tariffs, whether they actually do good, it will end up costing us more money in the future. It will end up doing all these issues. That doesn't matter to steelworkers. That doesn't matter to autoworkers. Doesn't matter to them, because all they see is that the President did something for "us." Whether it works or not, they did something for "us:" And they probably won't see a problem in their pocketbook and so I think he's appeased that portion of the base. What I'm concerned about, a little bit, is that they're going to see that. Things don't go too bad for Republicans in 2018. he could get re-elected in 2020, despite indefinite detention of children and despite all the other things he has done. Despite the fact that we're looking at how many different scandals he's been involved in and yet, in 1994, was it? We thought that was the biggest thing that could ever happen to a President of the United States and here we're ignoring the fact that, like you said, he paid off a porn star. Actually, looks like paid off two porn stars. Sen. Dorgan: Probably three. I don't know. Look, you might be right. My own view is that I think he probably won't be re-elected. I want him to keep us out of wars between now and then. I want him to stop doing stuff that would open up ANWR to oil development in Alaska. Stop changing the rules so that you can dump as much methane into the air as you like; and that people won't be able to drink clean water and breathe clean... I'd like him to be somewhat thoughtful about the policies we need. I understand that we have too many regulations; let's get rid of some that aren't worthy, but let's keep some that are really important for human health and other things. So, we'll see. I think it is not enough for Democrats just to be against Trump. Democrats need to have a vision and a set of values about who they're fighting for and what they want America to be in the future; with respect to people who need jobs and people who need health care and so-on. So, we need to do much more than we're now doing as Democrats. Brent:I think you're absolutely right on that, and I think one of the things that; not... I think that social issues are super important. I think they are a thing that affects so many people. However, I also feel like, the majority of Americans are already on board with all of that, and I feel like that's where the Democrats also failed in 2016. They spent a lot of time kind of pushing these social issues, like transgender bathrooms, and all those things. While they were important, no doubt, these people should not be discriminated against; that is not an issue that ninety-nine percent of Americans care about. I think that's certainly a problem. Number one; they didn't talk to working-class Americans. Hillary Clinton, again, I'm not going to "bag" on anybody, but I will say this, is the most qualified candidate to probably ever run for the office. Also, at the same time, not a likable person to the American people. I don't want to say it. I know there's a lot of connotation there. I voted for her. I think, she would have made a great President, but this is a personality contest now and we need to understand that. Sen. Dorgan:I don't disagree with that at all. I think she was not the best candidate in a lot of ways. However she was speaking it wasn't to the people; the guts of people. You know, that message somewhere between the brain and the belly that gives people a sense of, "this is something I care about. This is someone that's going to do something about it." So, I agree with that. I think she... I admire her. I think she's unbelievably talented. Would have made a good President if the Republicans would have allowed her to be a good President, but the fact is, she didn't' do a ... very good... you know, it's almost malpractice not campaign in Wisconsin as a Democrat. Brent: And in Michigan. You're missing out on... there's no situation...Sen. Dorgan: But, having said all that, she still won the election by three-and-a-half million votes, but lost the electoral college. So, she's not President. Brent: We can have that argument. I know a lot of people want to always make that, she won by three-million more votes. That's fine...Sen. Dorgan:... but if she lost the Presidency...Brent: The electoral college; number one, when Bush won in... 2000...Sen. Dorgan:... 2000.Brent: Yeah. We knew that that was an issue. Nobody did anything. Nobody tried to... I don't remember any Senators pushing for a Constitutional amendment to fix the electoral college. We knew that was an issue and we allowed it, because we said, " it probably won't be a problem later. We'll be fine." Sen. Dorgan: It wouldn't have needed to be an issue if Al Gore had selected Bob Graham as his running mate in Florida. He would have won Florida easily. Bob was wildly popular in Florida and there wouldn't have been a recount in Florida. So that's Al Gore's fault. Brent: We can also have the conversation about Tim Kain being chosen as... Tim, great guy. Doesn't move the dial at all. Sen. Dorgan: I like him a lot, and he played the role the campaign gave him, so that wasn't... but I understand your point. Brent: I'm just... in my adult life, it's mostly been Obama-Biden. Two of the most charismatic people to ever be in an administration; and I look at it and I say, Democrats did not realize that they were the ones that won that re-election because of their personality. I mean, their policy was great, but they won it because of their personalities, because of their charisma, because they would speak directly to your heart; and you felt it. I've been in the room while they both of them spoke and I was inspired. We don't do that and that's the problem. You say you don't think Donald Trump would be re-elected in 2020. Well, we're getting close to 2018's election. Who is the leader of the Democratic party right now? Who is the person who you're going to want on that ticket? I mean, it might be Joe Biden, but I think it might be a little late for Joe. Sen. Dorgan: Well, there will be a lot of people running. Gil Garcetti, mayor of Los Angeles, or Delaney the Congress. I bet there will be twelve or fourteen people announced for President. We'll see. I agree with you, I think that there's some political cholesterol blocking the emergence of new leaders, because many of the people, Bernie, and so many others, are in their late seventies in the Democratic leadership; but I think we will see new leaders emerge in the Democratic party. Look, what we need in both political parties... I would like to see strong new leaders in the Republican party come out and eclipse the Trump doctrine of Republicanism, and I'd like to see strong leaders in the Democratic party develop a real agenda for the country. Then, let's see where we go. Given America the choice of what kind of a country they want. Where do they want to head? What do they want to strengthen in this country's future? Brent: You know what I miss? You know what person I miss? This is going to sound weird too. John Boehner. That guy, I felt like he would have stood up to Trump when Trump needed to be stood up to. Sen. Dorgan: Sure we would have, but they threw him out. I mean, John, I mean he quit, but he quit because he couldn't govern his caucus and his caucus wouldn't... Look, I like John a lot. John and his wife and in the old days, my wife and I, we met John and his wife and knew them and liked them. In the old days, people met each other and you had relationships and so on. John Boehner was a good speaker, honestly, but he finally just said, I quit, because I can't get done what I need to get done through this caucus. Brent: I think that's probably what Paul Ryan is facing right now. I don't think Paul Ryan is a man of as much integrity. Sen. Dorgan: He doesn't have the strength that John Boehner had. Not at all. Brent: No. I also think that Paul Ryan has political aspirations and that's why he's doing this, in my head, because either he's eventually going to run for Governor of Wisconsin and then President, or he's just going to try to go straight for President once Trump's done. So, he's going to spend some time with his family. Help raise his kids for a couple of years and then he's going to try and go for higher office. That's my personal opinion, but I think you're right that he doesn't have the strength to control that caucus and he doesn't have that... Sen. Dorgan: Well, the fact was that he had a very strong reputation early on. That reputation has been injured a fair amount, I think, and we'll see what his future is; but I think what's happened is that while he's pushed back a little bit, but the phrase of choice these days is to say, "well, I wouldn't have said it that way," right? That's not enough. I think he's injured his reputation a bit, but he's a young man and we'll see what happens to his future. Brent:How often do you speak with President Clinton? Sen. Dorgan: Um, maybe two/three months ago. He and I talked. Brent: What's is like being friends with a President? Any President really? Sen. Dorgan:Well, we used to golf together. There's a picture of him and I golfing on the wall. He's a really interesting, smart... has a really facile mind. He's an interesting guy. You would, I think most anybody would like to spend some time with him talking. It's kind of like if you like economics, and I like economics, and I've had an opportunity to spend time visiting with Warren Buffett. In fact, on the way in this morning to work, I was thinking about this, because Warren had sent me an e-mail a while back and he said, 'If you get to Omaha anytime soon, call me and we'll have a hamburger.' I was thinking on the way in, I should just go to Omaha and have a hamburger because I haven't seen him for a long while, although we've been exchanging some emails. If you want to know about the economy, you want to talk to Warren Buffett, right? If you want to know about politics; pretty good to talk to Bill Clinton. He's an encyclopedia. Brent: This is a hard turn. Are we beyond the time of the bipartisanship? Are we ever going to be in a position where real bipartisanship exists anymore? Sen. Dorgan: It depends on... if voters can find a way to reward good behavior and punish bad behavior. I think bipartisanship will come back, but we have a circumstance these days where talk radio and cable television admonish those who come to the center to reach a compromise, because the question is, 'do you stand for your values or principles or do you compromise'? If you compromise, it's a dirty word. Compromise is what brings people together from different parties with different views. At the moment, there is not much compromise on anything. It may happen. It may change and I think the voters will have a lot to say about whether it changes. Brent:I've had this theory post Tea Party, I know that things weren't great even during the Clinton Administration. Speaker Gingrich was very standoffish, and there were some issues there. However, they were able, you guys were able to come to a lot of agreement and do things, and it was able to work. But, I've had this theory that following theTea Party movement in 2010. I feel like the Republicans, especially at the time, they embraced this movement because they knew they could get the votes. Which they do a lot. They embrace movements so they the voters. But what they didn't realize is that emboldened those people and then got a lot of Tea Partiers elected. And we got that far-right elected, the Louis Gohmert's of the world. That started to happen because they emboldened those voters. They didn't really fell like they were going to give them the voice that they said they were going to, and then they became members of Congress and started doing that. Sen. Dorgan: Yeah, I think that's right. It's also the case, from my perspective, that Democrats are by and large a party that believes in governance. Believes in the possibilities and the potential of good government. The Republicans are more often than not are a party that has been attacking government, saying government is the problem. You remember Ronald Reagan's speech. Government's not the solution, it's the problem. The fact is, Government is really us. we create it, and we determine who runs it and so on. So, after a couple, two or three decades, of really denigrating government over and over and over again, it's not surprising that people have less confidence in and less affection for their institutions, including government. It's not just government, but government is one of those institutions that has been under attack for a long while. And I think our government is really important. In self-government. You know, a country, the most successful democracy in the history of humankind exists in this country. It's not the only democracy. But it's the longest surviving representative government in world history. It's really important that we nurture that, and take care of it. Because there's no ultimate guarantee that the destiny of our country is to always be what we are. A country, that has substantial liberty and freedom and opportunity, it requires us, as Americans, to take care of and nurture this process called democracy. Brent:Not to be too dire here, but the worry I have is that we're not going to, and we are going to let it fail... Sen. Dorgan: Maybe. Maybe, but sometimes you just avoid an accident at the last minute when you're on the road. You know what I mean? So, clearly, we careen, and we have before, we careen off into different directions and it looks pretty problematic. And then we find a way to create a correction, or a charismatic leader, maybe Republican or Democrat. Maybe a Franklin Delano Roosevelt, or a Teddy Roosevelt, you know, whomever, and brings us back to where we need to be. Brent: I thoroughly agree that there needs to be someone, who will bring us back. And, on the government point, I've had people who said "How can you support the government, when you see so much waste?" I say, "I don't think that it works great right now, but the idea of government is great. The Idea of these things. A collective society, doing things for other people. That works for me."I love it, I love the idea of it. Is there a lot of waste? Sure there is. But nothing is perfect. Sen. Dorgan: Isn't it interesting that when citizens face the greatest difficulties. I'll give you an example. When Houston's under siege in a hurricane that is coming dead center to Houston. And it's gonna cause tens of thousands of people to flee their homes. And, when that passes through. Guess what is the most important element in the recovery? It is the combination of a government saying to them "you're not alone, we're here to help." And then the resilience of the human spirit of people who live there. That combination together is the way you begin to get well from these kinds of devastating circumstances. So, government is really, there are times when government is absolutely essential. And there are times when government goes too far and does things that make you kind of angry. And has rules and regulations that you think are not very smart. But, by and large, I think this country's government has served the country quite well.There is no place like this. We have the strongest economy in the world. I think we're more open and free society with liberty and freedom. This is a really remarkable place. Despite all of our imperfections. And what all of us say day to day about how we wish things were different. The fact is, every second year we get to grab the steering wheel, the American people get to decide. "Where do we head?"And we'll do that, and we do that every couple of years and somehow we find our way out of disappointment. And we find our way towards success. Brent: I'm just going to leave that there. I think that's perfect. Sen. Dorgan: Alright, good well thank you very much. Brent: Did I do OK?Sen. Dorgan: You did great. You have a good affinity for this. Number one you got a great voice, and second I think, having studied with Ed for many years, you know the issues really well. Sen. Dorgan: Thank you. I appreciate that. Like the nervousness of that first call with Byron Dorgan, I was very nervous. Thank you so much.

Thomas Daschle, Former Senator Majority Leader and Founder of The Daschle Group, spoke on “Leadership In and Out of Government” on Tuesday, March 8. Daschle discussed the need for bipartisanship in the U.S. Congress. Senator Daschle is the Founder and CEO of The Daschle Group, A Public Policy Advisory of Baker Donelson. The Daschle Group is a full-service strategic advisory firm that advises clients on a broad array of economic, policy and political issues. Senator Daschle has participated in the development and debate of almost every major public policy issue of the last three decades. He served in the US House of Representatives for eight years, and later was elected to the US Senate and was chosen as Senate Democratic Leader in 1994. Senator Daschle is one of the longest serving Senate Democratic leaders in history and one of only two to serve twice as both Majority and Minority Leader. During his tenure, Senator Daschle navigated the Senate through some of its most historic economic and national security challenges. Since leaving the Senate, Senator Daschle has remained an active and learned voice among policy-makers. Senator Daschle has also emerged as a leading thinker on climate change, food security and renewable energy policy. He serves on both advisory and governing boards of a number of corporate and non-profit organizations and currently co-chairs The Cuba Consortium, an organization dedicated to an improved relationship with the people of Cuba. In 2007, Senator Daschle joined with former Majority Leaders George Mitchell, Bob Dole and Howard Baker to create the Bipartisan Policy Center, an organization dedicated to finding common ground on some of the pressing public policy challenges of our time. Senator Daschle is Chair of the Board of Directors at the Center for American Progress and Vice-Chair for the National Democratic Institute. He serves on the board of Edward M. Kennedy Institute and the LBJ Foundation. He also is a member of the Health Policy and Management Executive Council at the Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health and the Council of Foreign Relations. Senator Daschle attended South Dakota State University, and then served for three years as an intelligence officer in the US Air Force Strategic Command. Following his military service, he spent five years as an aide to South Dakota Senator James Abourezk. After leaving the Senate in 2005, Senator Daschle joined Alston & Bird LLP as a special policy advisor and then went on to work in the same role at DLA Piper before establishing The Daschle Group in 2014.

For 10 years The Senate Majority Leader office traded hands between Senators Tom Daschel (Democrat) and Trent Lott (Republican).  As the leaders of their respective parties in the U.S. Senate, Senator Lott and Senator Daschle often found themselves on opposite sides of an issue, but they kept things moving in the Senate and got things done for the American people by working together, showing mutual respect, and engaging in that four letter word-compromise.   Today they say that politics is getting so ugly and divisive that has nearly stalled the legislative process, because no one is willing to reach across the aisle and find common ground.  They write about it in their new book, CRISIS POINT: WHY WE MUST - AND HOW WE CAN - OVERCOME OUR BROKEN POLITICS IN WASHINGTON AND ACROSS AMERICA.  Today they come on the show to talk about it and offer solutions to fix the rancorous partisan divide and get Congress moving again. If you enjoy this episode, you can click here order Tom Daschle and Trent Lott's book CRISIS POINT: WHY WE MUST - AND HOW WE CAN - OVERCOME OUR BROKEN POLITICS IN WASHINGTON AND ACROSS AMERICA on Amazon. Please subscribe to KickAss Politics on iTunes and leave us a review. You can also help us reach our fundraising goal for this year and donate at www.gofundme.com/kickasspolitics. Or go to the website for the show at www.kickasspolitics.com and click on the donate button. Thanks for listening!

The Bush administration fought hard against the creation of an independent commission to investigate 9/11.  The families who fought for the creation of such a commission, wanted full accountability concerning the event that led to the deaths of their loved ones.  Yet, the administration resisted this. Why? On the 29th of January 2002 – CNN reported that, “President Bush personally asked Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle Tuesday to limit the congressional investigation into the events of September 11″. Daschle told reporters that an investigation, “…would take resources and personnel away from the effort in the war on terrorism”. On May 23rd 2002, CBS News reported that, “President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11.” The excuses for the opposition to the Commission often given were alleged fears of national security compromises and claims that those involved in the “war on terrorism” would have their jobs hampered.  Yet, clearly national security had been compromised as a result of the attacks. If there were such failings and if people did not do their jobs, then they needed to be held accountable. In September 2002, under pressure from victims’ family members, CBS reported that, “President Bush told Congress he now supports creation of an independent commission to probe the September eleventh attacks.” The victims’ families “fought the Bush administration tooth and nail for a commission to investigate the September 11th terrorist attacks — and won”.  Yet, why did they even have to fight them for one in the first place? In total, the Bush administration fought off an investigation for 441 days before the mandate was finally passed into law on November 27, 2002. During the 9/11 Commission hearings – the Family Steering Committee requested Commissioners to ask Bush and Cheney to, “explain your 14 month opposition to the creation of an independent commission to investigate 9/11 and your request to Senator Daschle to quash such an investigation”. Yet, no answer is forthcoming. The Bush administration actively opposed any formal investigation into the attacks of September 11th.  If it were not for the determination of victims’ family members and a budding 9-11 Truth Movement, there would have never been any inquiry beyond the heavily redacted Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry from 2002.   Why did President Bush not want the American public to know exactly what happened before, during, and after September 11th?

The Executive Director of the Democratic Governor's Association weighs in on the upcoming races.

The Executive Director of the Democratic Governor's Association discusses very important, but often overshadowed, governor races. He also discusses his father Tom Daschle's relationship with Obama.