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Keith breaks down why global crises, geopolitical shocks, and nonstop "doom" headlines haven't stopped stocks and real estate from reaching near all-time highs, and what that means for investors focused on inflation-resistant assets.  He also discusses Memphis as a surprising cash-flow market poised to benefit from the AI boom, sharing details on an upcoming webinar with Mid South Homebuyers.  Keith is joined by real estate investor and educator Jared Garfield to unpack the "Seven-Figure Solution," a strategy that combines cash-flowing rentals with tax-advantaged life insurance to create liquidity, reduce risk, and support long-term retirement income.  Together, they explore how disciplined portfolio growth, smart leverage, and coordinated tax planning can help real estate investors better align their assets with their long-term financial goals. 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And September 30th, we're going to show you why the smart money is paying attention now, along with an investing opportunity you won't want to miss. Join me, Terry Kerr and Matthew Van Horn of Mid South Homebuyers, the largest turnkey company in Memphis with more than 6,000 homes under management, for a free live webinar, the likes of which I've never done before, we're going to look at what billions in new investment could mean for jobs, housing demand, neighborhood appreciation, and your portfolio. Everyone who attends live will also get exclusive access to the best deal terms Mid South has ever offered. Reserve your free seat at getricheducation.com/midsouth again that september 30. Don't say we didn't tell you. Save your spot at getricheducation.com/midsouth.   Speaker 1  1:39   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  1:55   Welcome to GRE from Kankakee, Illinois, to Cherokee, Iowa, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold. This is Get Recid Education, and the world is about to end. Even if you survive, your portfolio surely won't. Oh, jeez. At least that's the impression you get from mass media and what I'll call the Doom Scroll Industrial Complex. Fear creates urgency. Urgency attracts eyeballs. Eyeballs attract ad dollars. And I guess that using a slogan like "everything will probably be fine" well, that's never been a great ratings strategy. Now, can what has happened since 2020. Just this cheery little sequence: COVID, then Ukraine, Israel, Gaza, tariffs, and then the war in Iran. All that just since 2020. I mean, that right there sounds less like an economic timeline and more like a movie plot, or that the world is repeatedly spinning the wheel of misfortune. Yet after all of that, what is the result? Both stocks and residential real estate are near all-time highs. Apparently, the apocalypse has been postponed yet again-at least economically speaking. Now let's zoom out and break down these threats and a few more, all just since 2020, because 2020 is the year where, of course, you had the COVID-19 pandemic, economic shutdowns, the fastest major stock bear market in history, supply chain breakdown. You saw empty shelves, and there was unprecedented government intervention from the Paycheck Protection Program to stimulus checks to mortgage loan forbearance. Then, in 2021 and 2022, you had post-COVID inflation and supply shortages. Now, this was more of a result, not strictly geopolitical, but a major investment threat, and that led to aggressive interest rate hikes. From 2022 to the present, you have Russia's invasion of Ukraine, energy and food shocks came from that, sanctions, instability over in Europe, and really a heightened nuclear risk in 2023. You had the U.S. regional banking crisis. Remember SVB, yes, Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank, First Republic. They raised fears of a financial contagion that would spread like fat. Than a secret in a small town, it actually made me buy some gold. From 2023 to the present, you had the Israel-Hamas war and this broad Middle East instability, Hezbollah attacks, Houthi attacks, Red Sea shipping disruptions. It's almost like a geopolitical group project. And then from 2025 to the present, you have renewed U.S. tariffs and a global trade war, and this year you have the U.S.-Israeli war with Iran and the Strait of Hormuz disruption. That is the biggest current geopolitical investment threat because it combines all of these things: war, oil disruption, inflation, higher interest rates, and a recession risk. So it's a lot like this particularly unpleasant smoothie that's been blended together.   Keith Weinhold  5:55   All right. Well, all of that-that is just an absurd amount of uncertainty and disruption only since 2020, and though major markets are at all-time highs in the face of this, let's acknowledge that some were hurt here, like apartment building owners vulnerable to interest rate resets, and certain commercial sectors like office. Even worse, let's be sensitive to the fact that COVID in wars have resulted in a real loss of life. GRE's enduring strategy of primarily owning long-term residential rentals with fixed-rate debt has been comparatively really resilient. In fact, these calamities-they probably made you better off from the inflation that it has spurred. More people work from home. Well, that means that they're consuming our product while higher inflation debased our debt and jacked up our property values and our rents. And you know somehow every. single generation thinks that their collection of crises is uniquely terrifying, and it is not. And what do I mean by this? Well, in the 1980s, people feared war with the Soviet Union, the Cold War. A global population explosion so bad that millions or billions of people would surely die from hunger. You had the AIDS crisis. You had a hole in the ozone layer. Well, all those things. Virtually zero investors make decisions based on that stuff: an imminent Soviet attack or mass starvation from overpopulation. There is one thing that is 100% certain here, and that is that more shocks are coming. In case you don't want to sleep well, you can get worked up over the certainty of future calamities, artificial intelligence is making cyber attacks faster and more scalable. AI has even created entirely novel viruses. A confrontation between China and Taiwan that could create risk in the semiconductor space.   Keith Weinhold  8:18   A blockade that might disrupt the world's advanced chip supply, creating more inflation and more uncertainty. Here is what's changed, though, for what investors care about. You know what has changed with today's set of calamities versus those of the 1980s and earlier, because there is something, and it's a big deal for investors. Here's what's changed: recent history shows that the government does more to intervene during disasters, stimulus checks, liquidity programs where they're printing trillions, bailouts, pushing interest rates down to almost zero, quantitative easing. How about a foreclosure moratorium? Anything you know during COVID, it was a lot of these things, and it was the CARES Act, and it was a student loan payment pause. I mean, the Federal Reserve even set up emergency credit facilities. We now know that when the economic building catches fire, policymakers they rarely stand around admiring the flames. They just flood the place with currency. So the best investors they keep prudently building real estate portfolios in the face of risk, not the absence of risk, because the latter does not exist. This incessant government intervention, whether you agree with it or not, it gives you more safety cushions the next time that things fall apart. That's why what appears risk. Is still risky, but less so. So there is more incentive to take on prudent risk than I've ever seen. You know, no politician wants America to fall apart under their watch. So increasingly, they'll just paper over the problem by printing, printing, printing, and then, therefore, the resultant inflation, the consequence of this, that can be dealt with under the next president's watch, not theirs. In fact, future calamities they almost make you want to own scarce real assets that benefit from inflation, not a hedge, a benefit. Trying to time every war, election, banking crisis, tariff announcement, virus, and Fed decision. Trying to time all of those things-that is usually ineffective. You either own more assets, or you get left behind in everything that's happened since 2020. That just underscores this. In fact, Berkshire Hathaway, the closely watched company that Warren Buffett ran for a long time, but he still has influence in.   Keith Weinhold  11:16   You know, they recently began moving out of cash and into assets, they ended their long net selling stretch. In fact, in the latest quarter ended, they've now done the most buying that they've done since early 2022. They have jumped back in the game. It appears that Berkshire Hathaway got tired of sitting on the sidelines and seeing others make gains, and they're pretty bullish on housing too. They bought a home builder. The bottom line here is that shocks are going to keep arriving, and yet productive assets and well-financed residential real estate has repeatedly survived them and just continued appreciating. Don't wait for a risk-free world because you'll wait forever. When you evaluate all these calamities, just since 2020, again, COVID, Ukraine, Israel, Gaza, tariffs, and war in Iran, and then you realize that both real estate and stocks are near all-time highs anyway, and the government keeps backstopping asset owners like never before. This is just a fresh angle on how much better off you are when you prudently own more inflation-benefiting assets sooner. I want to tell you about something called the seven-figure solution. You've been here listening to me weekly since 2014. You've been earning money. You've been investing well, and now you're going to see how it all goes together. It's about making sure that your real estate and your other assets appropriately fund your retirement in a way that gives you protection against market downturns, a tax advantage pool of liquidity, the death benefit of a life insurance policy, and actually introduces you to a new form of leverage all at the same time. Now the liquidity here is key because this is where a 401(k) or IRA limit you, they have taxes and penalties if you want to use those funds early. This doesn't, but the seven-figure solution-it's not just for retirees. In fact, our own in-house investment coach Narayish uses something like this, and he is in his 30s. Let's discuss it, and then you'll see where I have an invitation for you, where you can get involved. I'd like to welcome in a guest we last had on the show a few years ago.   Keith Weinhold  13:54   He's a frequent guest on popular shows, including our friends over at the Real Estate Guys Radio Show, and this guest has also been a terrestrial radio show host himself. He's a long-time real estate educator and an active investor, just like you and I. So he speaks from experience and not a textbook. He's the creator of what we'll discuss today, called the Seven Figure Solution. Welcome back to the show, Jared Garfield.   Jared Garfield  14:21   Hey, it's great to be with you again. Thanks for having me.   Keith Weinhold  14:25   It's so good. Now you're with the Haven Bridge Group, and you help people, especially real estate investors, with what's called the seven-figure solution. Tell us about it.   Jared Garfield  14:37   it. Well, Haven Bridge, we get the name for that because people are really looking for a haven of safety, and the bridge is kind of what crosses the gaps that could kind of destroy your wealth, and it's the path to get there. So we want to take people on a path to safety, and the seven-figure solution is the idea that if you're going to be drawing out even 4% per year to not outlive your money, because people are living now. To 8590, 95 years old, and so that means you could have 35 years in retirement. And with inflation and different things like that, you really have to have a lot bigger nest egg than what most people realize. So a seven-figure solution is how to get to more than a million dollars liquid that you can draw on in a tax advantaged manner for the rest of your life, while also having living benefits. And we pull real estate in with it because we want people to have 10 or 15 or 20 rental properties by the time they retired. That they 1031 exchange regularly, so that they're always keeping tax advantages. So that even in retirement you have strong tax advantages, and ultimately we think that when you're 65 or 70, you might want to go from 30 single-family houses to 1031 exchange into one institutional asset that's a little bit less management intensive.   Keith Weinhold  15:57   Okay, so this is a tax advantage vehicle that real estate investors can use during their investing career, and those tax advantages then really convert into something that you can use in retirement as well.   Jared Garfield  16:11   Yes, what it does is it's a vehicle that instead of saving the money from your cash flow from your rental properties in the bank, we say, well, why wouldn't you rather invest in something where it grows tax-free, number one, and then number two, you don't have the penalties like you would with a 401k, where you get taxed and you get penalized 10% if you pull it out. It's liquid, usually about 80 to 90% liquid, so you can pull from it whenever you like, and you can use it for down payments to grow your real estate portfolio. But you can earn sometimes between five and even seven or 8% in a tax advantaged manner where you're not taxed on it, but you're earning a much higher return than if you put the cash flow into a bank.   Keith Weinhold  16:51   All right, so you're building this tax advantage pool of capital that grows over time, and this is important to have some liquidity. You know, Jared, I've often talked to our audience, about three to 5% of your portfolio value ought to be kept liquid. Maybe with a vehicle like this, you would want to put in more of that because real estate investors we have expenses, so you have this liquidity to cover things like vacancies and major repairs, or perhaps you could even use this account for future down payments on additional investment properties. Is that how it's utilized?   Jared Garfield  17:27   Yeah, absolutely. And I get it partially this way because in my early 20s, I got up to where I had about six rentals, and at the time, I also owned a real estate brokerage, and I was doing very well. I was making a six-figure income and things. And what happened is, I back when a   Keith Weinhold  17:41   six-figure income was a big deal.   Jared Garfield  17:43   Yeah, back in the early 2000s, it was a little bit better money. But the funny thing was, I had four rental properties that all went vacant at the same exact time, and so now all of a sudden, I was paying like 4500 bucks a month in mortgages, not counting the house I lived in, but I had to cover four mortgages on four of my rental properties all at the same time, and I hadn't saved the cash flow, so I didn't have a huge emergency fund. All my liquid capital went into down payments and into renovation money to rehab the properties. Okay, and so it put me in a real bind, and I was out driving a Volvo S80 around throwing two paper routes in the mornings, and then going to my real estate brokerage after my paper routes to cover those rental properties. And so this was basically meant as a way to say, okay, this is a way that I have the liquidity. I'm getting a higher return, but now my tenants are not only buying me the houses, but they're also giving me a couple million dollars in life insurance, and they're wrapping my investment component or the cash value of that, the cash value part of the policy. They're wrapping that in a way that it grows tax-free, so it just accomplishes a lot of things. But the other thing that's a beautiful thing about it is there's a lot of things that we call living benefits.   Keith Weinhold  19:02   All right, so you have the living benefits and the tax advantages, and I know how you have pointed out that this can save an investor 10s of 1000s of dollars in taxes per year and hundreds of 1000s or more over time. Can you tell us more about that?   Jared Garfield  19:20   Yeah, because what happens is the money that goes in is growing tax-free, so you don't get taxed on any of the growth. But what we really like about it is, let's say that you're cash-flowing $2,000 a month off your rental properties, and you're putting 2000 a month into this policy. Usually, after the first year, if you're max funding, 80 to 90% of that's liquid. So if you've got 24,000 sitting in there, you've got access to 89 to 90% of the money. So it's pretty liquid. But what happens is over a 20 or 30 year period, that money could turn into three or 400,000 a year that you can pull out in the form of policy loans. And by doing that, it's not taxed. And you can pull that out throughout your retirement tax-free. So if you were paying 25% in taxes and you're pulling out 200 grand a year, that's $50,000 a year in retirement that you're saving in taxes. But that could be over a 20 or 30-year period. So over 20 years, that 50,000 could end up being a lot of money. I mean, 500,000 over 10 years, a million over 20, and so that means you don't have to accumulate as much. But a lot of our investors love it because they'll save it up with discipline, and then that way it's there if the furnace blows. So it makes your real estate safer, but it also becomes your down payment funds to expand your portfolio.   Keith Weinhold  20:40   Okay, the seven-figure solution is the vehicle that we're talking about here, and what part of the IRS code, just briefly, is it that gives this tax advantage?   Jared Garfield  20:51   It's Internal Revenue Code Section 79 that allows it to grow tax-free. In the 1980 s, doctors and a lot of very wealthy people were using this to the point that IRS changed the laws. They went and sued the insurance companies because doctors would go in and dump $2 million in, and they would buy a $2 million life insurance policy. So they were self-insured, which meant that they didn't have any cost of mortality on it. So they basically got all the benefits of the tax-free growth and the tax-free pullout. And the IRS said, "Wait a minute! We think you're doing tax evasion. So what they did is they came around and they said, "We're not going to let you use this loophole anymore for the very wealthiest people to have this. So they came to a compromise, and the compromise was that if you wanted to put in 2 million, you had to maintain a corridor where there had to be a little bit higher amount of life insurance. So you might have to buy a $2.3 million policy, but then you could still dump, say, $2 million in and have all the tax advantages. It's a strategy that's been used for over 100 years by families like the Rockefellers and the Hunts and J.P. Morgan. The very wealthiest families have always used these strategies to grow and protect their wealth.   Keith Weinhold  21:59   Okay, so it's a part of the tax code that allows cash value to accumulate within and be withdrawn from a life insurance policy tax-free.   Jared Garfield  22:11   Correct, and it gives you living benefits, which I alluded to a minute ago. And the living benefits are if if you end up having to go through things like long-term care, disability, if you can't perform, you know certain functions for a certain period of time, chronic illness, critical illness, terminal illness. If any of those things happen to you, you can borrow against the policy and have access to money during those things that would normally decimate your wealth, because you can actually access the death benefit in advance.   Keith Weinhold  22:42   Now I know a little about the six risks. Tell us about that.   Jared Garfield  22:47   Well, Keith, there are six risks that all investors face regularly. The first one is inflation erosion, and that means that your purchasing power often ends up leaking out of your balance. And the balance might look fine, but inflation can eat away at it. So even if you've raised a lot of money, if inflation means that you can buy half as much five or 10 years from now, then you know your wealth isn't as big as you thought. The second is the volatility setback, and that's sequence of return risk. That means that if you retire on a bad year where things really bad, stock market drops, you could end up using your money at a time where it really weakens your wealth because it may have dropped by 50% So if you had a million, now you have a half a million, and you're spending 100,000 a year. At the end of year one, you might only have 400,000 left. So sequence of of return risks from volatility setback, tax drain. That's just the compounding cost of an uncoordinated tax picture can really be a problem, and then the next one is liquidity. If you don't have liquidity and you've locked up all your money and you can't access it until you're 59 and a half without significant taxation and 10% penalties, the liquidity lock is a problem. There's the longevity paradox. What happens if you outlive your money, you know. So living longer is a benefit, but it exposes you to where you might not have enough money to live on in your latter years. The last two are care avalanche, and that is if an unexpected health event happens at the wrong time, it could really destroy your wealth because medical costs have spiraled out of control, and then the last one is the line to land, and that's only one of the six that's really about growth.   Keith Weinhold  24:28   Right, only one of the six of those was about growth. I can't stand the longevity paradox. Yeah, we think we all want to live a long time, but then it's more difficult to fund living a long time, and if you outlive everybody, nobody shows up at your funeral either. The longevity paradox-one of the six risks that the seven-figure solution can really help you with. Now, tell us more about funding it, so you can get a good cash value balance in. There, I know that one way you do it is actually with short-term rentals instead of a paycheck.   Jared Garfield  25:06   We love short-term rentals, especially for our highest net worth clients, because the reason is is the bonus depreciation of the big beautiful bill. Oh, right! You could take up to like 150 or even $200,000 in year one, they take that depreciation that they used to spread out over a whole lot of years, and they make it to where if you get with your CPA and you analyze your short-term rental, you could potentially take all of the furnishings, all of the artwork, all of the dishes and things that are in the property. Sometimes they'll let you take components like the appliances, the air conditioning unit, the furnace, and they'll let you take it all in year one instead of having to line item it and spread it out over you know 27 and a half years. So what this means is, if you have a short term rental, then you you might get like 150 to 200,000 tax break in the first year on the right property, but it's better than that because instead of having to have like 750 hours to hit full-time real estate professional status, it cuts the hours that you have to have significantly down. I think it's more like 150 hours or something like that, or 300. It's like half the hours, and so you can hit the benefits of taking unlimited passive loss much easier if you have a couple of short-term rentals.   Keith Weinhold  26:24   You're listening to Get Rich Education. We're talking with Jared Garfield about the seven-figure solution, something that takes some time to understand, but it can give you a tax-advantaged pool of capital that grows over time, and it also creates this overall tailwind, not just during your investor life, but then it provides tax advantaged retirement income at the same time. More on this when we come back. 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Something that can be a particular benefit to real estate investors both during your investing career and then once you're in retirement as well, and this can take the form of either an indexed universal life policy or a whole life policy. There are a lot of wrong ways to do this and wrong things to get into. We're talking about the right way. Part of that is funding it as best you can. Can you tell us more about that?   Jared Garfield  29:20   Well, there's a lot of different ways to fund it. A lot of our clients will come in. We have some people who will use rollovers if they're nearing the end of retirement. Some people will roll over a 401k into a cash value life insurance policy because they can do it over a five or seven year period, and they pay the taxes when they roll it over, so their taxes go up a little bit for five or seven years of retirement, but then what happens is that means that during their retirement they're not taxed on the income all the way through retirement, so that can save really significantly. But a lot of our clients will do a flip and dump 40 or 50,000 a year in by just saying I'm going to do one flip a year and use that to. Fund the whole thing, or they'll take the cash flow and dump the cash flow into here instead of the bank, just so that they get the living benefits and they get the much higher return with still 80 to 90% liquidity. So could be cash flow from rentals, could be money from a flip, or sometimes some of these short-term rentals can make 20 to $30,000 a year, and if you get $100,000 tax break, you have more money that's not going to Uncle Sam, and then because that's your discretionary income now, because of the tax break, you could use that money to for down payments to grow your portfolio or to do a flip.   Keith Weinhold  30:35   Now, Jared, I sort of think of the cash value that you're accumulating in this policy as safe money that grows at a slow to moderate steady rate, but if it rarely or ever loses value, can you tell us more about that and the rate of return expected in the policy?   Jared Garfield  30:52   Yeah, absolutely. With the IULs, it's going to depend a little bit upon the carriers and stuff like that, and whether you go with a mutual company and stuff like that. It can vary, but a lot of times people are going with things that are what we call indexed. So you can actually index it to the S and p5 100 if you think that we're going to have a bull market and the market's going to really go up strongly. You can index it to the market, and sometimes they'll have a participation rate where they'll say, "Okay, you can participate up to 12% So if the stock market does 17% the most you can make is 12% So you're giving up a little bit of upside, but that's still not nothing. I mean, that's not three or 4% You can still make you know 10 or 12% that year, but you're giving up the part above the participation rate. And the reason that you do that is if the market tanks and drops by 30 or 40% The worst you can do is 0% return. Zero is my hero because you didn't lose anything. So if you had a half a million sitting there, you don't go down to 250 and then wait eight years to get back to break even. Instead, you're still at half a million. And if the market goes up next year by 20% and you had a 10% cap. Then your half a million, you know, is now at 550,000. When everybody else, if it went up by 10% they're at half the amount that they had.   Keith Weinhold  32:13   You have a story or example of how you've helped somebody with this, because I know a lot of investors that are passionate about utilizing the cash value inside an insurance policy tell us.   Jared Garfield  32:28   Well, I've got one friend who's a developer, and he did like a $5 million policy. And every time he flip a subdivision or flip a house, and let's back   Keith Weinhold  32:36   up. Does a $5 million policy mean that's the death benefit?   Jared Garfield  32:40   Yeah, that's the death benefit. Thanks for catching that. That's the death benefit, but that also has a correlation to how much money you can dump into it. So if you have a $5 million policy, you can dump a lot more money in for the tax free growth. And the quicker you hit that death benefit amount, at that point you're self-insured, and so at that point you really don't have cost of insurance on administering the policy hardly at all, and so at that point, when you're what we call self-insured, the return on the investment becomes a lot better. But this particular developer was able to use this policy because he had so much cash value in, and if he sold a house, he'd take 40,000. If he sold 10 a year, he might take you know 400,000 and dump it into this policy, and so it made him bankable. And he was able to use the money to go out and do new subdivision developments because the bank would actually use the policy as the collateral to be able to give him loans at much lower interest rates.   Keith Weinhold  33:38   That's valuable. Tell us about that. I don't want to use the wrong words here, but then effectively with this example, are you borrowing against the funds in the policy? So therefore, you can get those dollars working for you somewhere else, all while simultaneously the cash value continues to compound and grow. Sort of another form of leverage.   Jared Garfield  34:01   Correct. What they basically do is they basically freeze part of the amount and say, okay, we're using this as the collateral and stuff like that to be able to do the loan. But if it grows and and makes 7% you're still making the money off of the money that's sitting in there. It's just collateralized as part of the loan. And some people will even use it to like go buy a car, like instead of buying a car and going getting a bank loan and paying 7% to the bank, they might borrow money out, go pay cash for the car from the life insurance policy loan, and pay 2% instead of 7% But they're paying it to themselves, and as long as they're paying the interest to themselves, if the money that they borrow out could potentially still earn the same money and earn 7% even though you had borrowed out. So it's doing two things for you at the same time, as long as you're paying that loan interest. But and that depends on the option that you take when you do your loan.   Keith Weinhold  34:54   We love leverage around here. Leverage trumps compound interest. In so many ways. Oh, I'm really glad that you told us some more about that using the funds in more than one way at the same time. Tell us more about what it costs for the investor, the costs of setting this up, and then what some of those trade-offs are, Jared.   Jared Garfield  35:18   Well, that really depends on the individual. I mean, everybody has to sit down and be able to decide what is acceptable for them. You know, a lot of times people will want to max fund the 401k that they're doing at least just to the amount that's matched. But then after that, this could be a great place instead of putting a whole bunch more money into a 401k. Some people will elect to say, "I'm going to put the matching portion into my 401k, but then I'm going to take my cash flow from my real estate and money that I could have contributed to other alternatives and put it into this because I want the liquidity. I want to be able to leverage this money and pull it out without any restrictions. That as long as I can pull out 80 to 90 percent, I could go buy a car wash, or I could invest in a business, or I could, you know, do whatever I wanted to. I could loan it to my kids for their college and make them pay me loans back to my policy. There gives you a lot of flexibility to do it. But the thing that we love about it is we'll do what's called an illustration, and it may end up if you start at the right time, it could be a six-figure passive income stream at retirement, and then if you have the real estate, because this helped you grow your portfolio, where without doing the strategy, you might have ended up with say 10 properties. We might be able to get you to 20 or 30 properties working together as a team with your real estate coaches and stuff like that. Then we can potentially grow your real estate portfolio, and what we want to do is 1031 exchange every seven to eight years. I don't believe in holding properties for 30 years.   Jared Garfield  36:47   I believe in exchanging them every seven to eight years because when the tax benefits have been used up, if you exchange to twice the size portfolio, you have better appreciation on a portfolio worth twice as much. But that new value, you still get the depreciation advantages, where the old value that was half, you know, the depreciation is used up. So you're you're getting new depreciation on the higher value assets, and then our goal would be that by the time you don't want to be involved in managing the property managers, that at some point you're going to have a 200 unit apartment complex with on-site management, and at that point you don't have any financial worries really because you're 1031 exchanging into those apartment complexes, but you have so much equity that you're still maintaining depreciation during your retirement years. When most people who have lesser plans don't have the tax advantages,   Keith Weinhold  37:41   I love that you said so much of that, and to you, the listener, Jared is licensed to do this, and our own in-house investment coach. You mentioned coaching. Naresh has the proper licensing as well to holistically help integrate this into your investor life. And for example, yes, we are rarely of the mindset that you would hold a property for all 30 years because after seven to 10 years, your leverage ratio gets worn down, and then additionally, if you're buying turnkey properties, oftentimes that's when capex expenditures start to enter into the picture. So yes, oftentimes we do these seven to 10 year holds.    Jared Garfield  38:23   I love that. Yeah, that's a really really good strategy, and and it always makes it to where you can grow so much bigger portfolio by not being taxed through that exchange. And you know, believe it or not, there's actually even ways when you have extra cash boot, they do allow if you notify them in advance. Sometimes you can take some of the cash boot on the exchange and roll it into some of the products that we utilize.   Keith Weinhold  38:47   For more specifics, I know you said it's based on one's individual situation, but how much does it cost to set up a policy? And then, are there any ongoing maintenance fees? Can you give us more specifics there?   Jared Garfield  38:59   So, there's small fees to administer the policy because you have people who are trading and doing different things and working within the policy for the funds. But usually, you can set policies up as low as 100 or even $200 a month. We don't usually recommend that because you want to max fund it. Usually, when you're doing these strategies, if you're just doing $100 or $200 a month, you're basically buying life insurance, but you're missing a lot of the benefits because what you want to do is to be able to max fund it. So what we like people to do is get as minimum life insurance. That's not in our advantage because we get paid based on the premium of the amount of life insurance you get. But you get the smallest amount of life insurance for the amount that you can max fund. I would much rather have somebody get a $500 a month policy that, let's say, they could put you know a thousanmd a month in or something like that, than to have somebody get $1,000 a month policy where they're paying a thousand a month but they can't max fund it because by max funding it you're maximizing the growth component of the cash. Value, and so it depends on how much you want. But you can go anywhere from $100 or $200 a month to we have clients that will dump $20,000 a month in because they really want to shield as much money as they can from tax growth.   Keith Weinhold  40:15   Tell us more about who the seven-figure solution is for and who it's not for.   Jared Garfield  40:20   Well, if you're living month to month and you don't have discretionary income, it's probably not a good solution. In that situation, you probably want to get term insurance and just make sure that you cover catastrophic things. But if you've got discretionary income and you've got an extra four to $500 a month that you could use to max fund, we figure most people need life insurance anyway, and the way that we teach it, when you mix it with real estate, rather than pulling it from your monthly budget, doesn't it make a lot more sense to let your tenants buy the houses for you, but also pay for a half a million or a million dollar life insurance policy for you, where the tenants are covering the savings for anything that happens at the property with capex or vacancy or damage, and at the same time covering life insurance and potentially a six-figure passive income that's tax advantaged at retirement. So I pull the money out from other assets and let the assets cover this asset.   Keith Weinhold  41:18   Oh well, Jared, this has been great. Before I ask you if you have any last things to tell the audience about the seven-figure solution, I invite you, the audience, to join us. It's going to be Jared and our own in-house investment coach, Nareesh, bringing you a live online event that you can join from the comfort of your own home next Thursday, the 27th at 8 PM Eastern. You can register now; it's free at grewebinars.com because there are a lot of moving parts, and it does take some time to wrap your head around this, benefiting from the cash value of an insurance policy. And this way you can have a Q and A, and you can get answers in real time at this event. It's called the Seven Figure Solution: Build wealth, reduce risk, and create tax advantage retirement income through real estate. Again, it is next Thursday, the 27th at 8p.m. Eastern, you probably have generated some questions inside your head while you're listening to this, and you can sure have them answered there as you're going to learn a whole lot more about it next Thursday. This could help a lot of people. Jared, do you have any last thoughts?    Jared Garfield  42:38   I think the only thing is that we like to work with the team. We like to work with your CPA. We like to work with your real estate investment coach. I used to be a coach and trainer for Robert Kiyosaki, who wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad, and he always talked about power teams. And so we want to be able to be a part of your power team and work with your other advisors to help you implement something. We're not here to give you tax advice. We want you to be able to work with your investment advisors and your CPAs, and just be a part of the team. But I would point out that over my career, I've owned hundreds and hundreds of single-family cash flow rentals, duplexes, fourplexes, apartment complexes. I've done some land development, and I implement these strategies myself. I had 17 Airbnbs, and so these are the strategies that I implemented as a full-time real estate professional. I felt like that this strategy of having a seven-figure solution could help you to avoid some of the pitfalls that I experienced in my 20s.   Keith Weinhold  43:32   So much all comes together for one pretty comprehensive solution. It's the intersection of growing your portfolio, getting tax advantages and having the death benefits of insurance and more all coming together next Thursday, so that you can learn more. Jared, it's been great having you back on the show.   Jared Garfield  43:52   Thanks, Keith. Always glad to join you.   Keith Weinhold  44:00   Integrate the seven-figure solution the GRE way, where we have this conscientiousness about leverage and cash flow. In this case, it's how to prudently leverage a life insurance policy. When it's time to tap your cash value, you take what is a policy loan, not a withdrawal, because you're borrowing against your cash value, hence using the funds in more than one place, and the IRS does not tax loan proceeds. This reminds me of a billionaire and how they borrow against the value of their stock. That way, they don't have to sell their assets. This is similar to what you can do with this. Another thing is that you know real estate investors are not used to a volatile ride because our asset values stay stable. You heard Jared mention the acronym IUL there. That's an indexed universal life policy. It's a real benefit. That says you tie yours to the S and P five hundred. Well, that index was down 18% in 2022, and that your cash value can have an upside ceiling and loss protection on the downside-an option that you'll care more about as you get toward retirement. In 2008, the S&P was down 37% so the math is cruel on value losses. In fact, it's even worse than it sounds because if you're down 30%, then you need a 43% gain just to get back to even. That is just math.   Keith Weinhold  45:39   There are some mistakes to avoid here, and you don't just want to set up your seven-figure solution off of a website. And it is based on products that you might have heard of from companies like Nationwide and Mass Mutual. I strongly encourage you learn more, see how it all goes together, learn how the seven-figure solution compares to other vehicles like a Roth IRA, 401k, 721 exchange, and 1031 exchange. This is very much about seeing your future. You've been listening to me here every week for almost 12 years, earning money from your day job, building your real estate portfolio, either from our investment coaching or on your own. This is how it all goes together. Next week with Jared and GRE investment coach Naresh. By attending live, you can have your questions answered in real time. One last time, you can sign up for the event for next Thursday, the 27th at 8 PM. Eastern, 5 PM. Pacific. Learn about something that's potentially really valuable to you: the seven-figure solution at grewebinars.com. Until next week, I'm your host Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 2  46:59   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal, or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.   Keith Weinhold  47:26   The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building, getricheducation.com  

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Ray pays tribute to one of the books that kicked off his own entrepreneur journey back in 2004 — Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad Poor Dad. Before digging into the sales lessons, Ray shares the behind-the-scenes story of how that book almost never made it: rejected by publishers, self-printed in car washes, and saved by a 200,000-copy invoice from Amway legend Dexter Yager. That hustle story alone is worth the listen. From there, Ray pulls out the real gold — the sales principles woven throughout Kiyosaki's teachings that most people skip right past. Whether you're an entrepreneur, employee, or investor, you are always selling. Fear of rejection keeps people poor. And passive income dreams mean nothing if your active income skills aren't sharp first. Ray makes it plain: no matter what industry you're in, you're in the sales and marketing business. Master that, and everything else opens up.

What if nonprofit leaders stopped seeing wealth as something separate from mission and began viewing it as the capacity to create greater impact? In this episode of The Nonprofit Exchange, Hugh Ballou talks with Nathan Barkocy about moving from scarcity thinking to an abundance mindset grounded in stewardship, time, relationships, faith, and sustainable impact. Episode Summary Nonprofit leaders talk often about generosity, sacrifice, stewardship, and service, yet the word wealth can still feel uncomfortable in mission-driven organizations. Nathan Barkocy challenges that tension by redefining wealth as something much larger than financial accumulation. In his view, true wealth includes money, but it also includes ownership of time, meaningful relationships, purpose, faith, health, resilience, and the ability to multiply positive impact for others. Nathan's perspective was shaped by a life-changing experience. At age 16, while a nationally ranked competitive cyclist with ambitions of reaching the Tour de France and the Olympics, he was struck by a car traveling about 60 miles per hour. He survived, spent two weeks in a coma, and awoke paralyzed. Recovery required him to relearn how to walk, talk, and eat. That experience reshaped his understanding of what is truly valuable and led him to live by the conviction that tomorrow is never promised. For Nathan, time became the most limited and precious asset because once it is spent, it cannot be recovered. That insight became foundational to his philosophy of True Wealth. Nathan explains that money matters because it provides capacity: the capacity to build, to give, to serve, and to expand impact. But money is not the final measure. True wealth is revealed in what a person or organization is able to multiply for others. The conversation turns directly to the nonprofit sector and the persistent scarcity mindset that can limit leaders and organizations. Nonprofits often operate from assumptions such as "we can't afford it," "there isn't enough," or "we have to do everything ourselves." Nathan argues that leaders should instead begin with a different question: How much impact do you want to make? He points to the abundance of capital and opportunity already present in the marketplace and encourages nonprofit leaders to recognize that many people with resources are actively looking for meaningful ways to create social impact. Hugh and Nathan also explore wealth as stewardship rather than accumulation. Nathan distinguishes among old wealth, new wealth, and true wealth. Old wealth emphasizes long-term accumulation and preservation. New wealth often reflects entrepreneurial speed, visibility, and lifestyle. True wealth, as Nathan describes it, integrates the useful aspects of both while focusing on ownership of time, multiple streams of income, personal well-being, and impact. For nonprofit leaders, that means treating money as fuel for the mission rather than as something to fear or avoid. A major part of the conversation centers on relationships. Nathan emphasizes the "power of association" and the importance of intentionally surrounding yourself with people who can expand your thinking, open doors, and help you grow. He credits his relationship with Sharon Lechter, co-author of Rich Dad Poor Dad and his co-author on Old Wealth. New Wealth. True Wealth., as an example of how mentorship and association can transform opportunity. His father's advice captures the idea simply: "Show me your friends and I'll show you your future." For nonprofits, this relational wealth has practical consequences. Strong relationships with donors, investors, community leaders, mentors, and other nonprofit professionals can expand both funding and influence. Nathan describes the nonprofit model as a potential win-win-win: when organizations create value for others, donors and partners can participate in that impact, and the broader community benefits. Faith is another essential part of Nathan's understanding of abundance. His encounter with death deepened his gratitude for each day and reinforced the importance of using time intentionally. He describes every day as "an abundance of opportunity" and connects true wealth with creating positive relationships and building God's kingdom through meaningful impact. Nathan closes with practical advice for leaders who recognize that they have been operating from scarcity: get into the right rooms. Surround yourself with people who are where you want to be, learn from people who have created the kind of impact you seek, and stop allowing limited beliefs to determine the size of your mission. The amount of impact a nonprofit can create, he argues, is deeply connected to the abundance mindset of its leaders. ·       True wealth includes money, but it also includes time, purpose, faith, health, relationships, resilience, and the ability to create impact. ·       Time is a finite asset. Nonprofit leaders should audit how they spend it and whether those choices move the mission forward. ·       Scarcity thinking can limit an organization's impact long before actual resources do. ·       Money is not the mission, but it is fuel for the mission. ·       Wealth is strongest when it is stewarded and multiplied for others rather than merely accumulated. ·       Relationships are a form of capital. The people around a leader can expand opportunity, learning, funding, and impact. ·       An abundance mindset begins by recognizing that there are people, resources, and opportunities available to support meaningful work. ·       Leaders should intentionally place themselves in rooms with people who challenge and expand their thinking. “Tomorrow is never promised. Make the most of today.” “True wealth is measured in what you multiply for others.” “Every day is an abundance of opportunity.” “Show me your friends and I'll show you your future.” Nathan Barkocy is an entrepreneur, keynote speaker, mentor, and advocate for a broader definition of wealth. After surviving a near-fatal accident as a teenager, he rebuilt his health, faith, and life and developed a philosophy centered on ownership of time, purpose, relationships, generosity, and sustainable impact. He is a co-author of Old Wealth. New Wealth. True Wealth. with Sharon Lechter and leads the True Wealth Community for proactive and aspiring entrepreneurs. Nathan Barkocy: https://nathanbarkocy.com Key TakeawaysMemorable Ideas from the ConversationAbout Nathan BarkocyLearn More Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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In this episode, Aaron Lambert shares his journey from solitude and reading Rich Dad Poor Dad to building RKL Investments, focusing on new construction, assisted living, and memory care. Discover how resilience, relationships, and strategic pivots drive success in real estate. In this episode, we explore how a real estate entrepreneur leverages strategic planning, marketing, and team management to grow a diversified property portfolio across multiple markets. Discover actionable insights on scaling, automation, and building a resilient business in real estate.   Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind:  Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply   Investor Machine Marketing Partnership:  Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com   Coaching with Mike Hambright:  Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike   Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat   Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform!  Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/   New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club   —--------------------

Felecia Froe became a urologic surgeon after succeeding in medical school and urology residency. Somehow she knew this wasn't the last thing she would ever do. Her mind as rewired about the idea of money after reading Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kyosaki. In this ICYMI conversation with Mary Katherine Johnson of Planet Wealth, Felecia traces her path buying 18 properties in two years, losing nearly everything in the 2008 crash, and rebuilding into a social impact investor who's now running sober living homes and fighting food deserts. She gets honest about the fear that doesn't fully go away, even after decades of deals, the mindset shift from working for money to making money work for you, and why she believes no woman should ever feel financially stuck in a job or relationship. This one's part memoir, part masterclass in risk, and part call to action for women ready to stop waiting for permission. 00:00 - From the OR to Real Estate: Felecia's Origin Story 05:24 - Finding "The Thing": Social Impact Investing 12:05 - The Courage to Change Course 18:50 - The Mission Behind Money with Mission 23:05 - Reframing Risk and the Money Mindset Shift 28:35 - Turning Communities Around and Advice for New Investors   You've worked hard to build your career. Now let's build wealth that outlives it. You were born to build more than just wealth. You were born to lead, inspire, and rise. At Wealth B-Hers, we're redefining what it means to be financially fearless. Join a movement of bold women investing with intention, building legacies, and writing their own money rules.   Ready to take the next step? Visit our website - moneywithmission.com/wealth-b-hers/    Connect with Planet Wealth! Website: https://planetwealth.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/callmemkj/?isSelfProfile=false Podcast: https://youtu.be/XPZuNuiI6tA?si=rDig3_5l-dfvh9dQ   Key Quotes: "When you send your money out to work for you, the thing it's supposed to do is come back with more money." -Dr. Felecia Froe   "I want finances not to be the reason that you're stuck." - Dr. Felecia Froe

Felecia Froe became a urologic surgeon after succeeding in medical school and urology residency. Somehow she knew this wasn't the last thing she would ever do. Her mind as rewired about the idea of money after reading Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kyosaki. In this ICYMI conversation with Mary Katherine Johnson of Planet Wealth, Felecia traces her path buying 18 properties in two years, losing nearly everything in the 2008 crash, and rebuilding into a social impact investor who's now running sober living homes and fighting food deserts. She gets honest about the fear that doesn't fully go away, even after decades of deals, the mindset shift from working for money to making money work for you, and why she believes no woman should ever feel financially stuck in a job or relationship. This one's part memoir, part masterclass in risk, and part call to action for women ready to stop waiting for permission. 00:00 - From the OR to Real Estate: Felecia's Origin Story 05:24 - Finding "The Thing": Social Impact Investing 12:05 - The Courage to Change Course 18:50 - The Mission Behind Money with Mission 23:05 - Reframing Risk and the Money Mindset Shift 28:35 - Turning Communities Around and Advice for New Investors   You've worked hard to build your career. Now let's build wealth that outlives it. You were born to build more than just wealth. You were born to lead, inspire, and rise. At Wealth B-Hers, we're redefining what it means to be financially fearless. Join a movement of bold women investing with intention, building legacies, and writing their own money rules.   Ready to take the next step? Visit our website - moneywithmission.com/wealth-b-hers/    Connect with Planet Wealth! Website: https://planetwealth.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/callmemkj/?isSelfProfile=false Podcast: https://youtu.be/XPZuNuiI6tA?si=rDig3_5l-dfvh9dQ   Key Quotes: "When you send your money out to work for you, the thing it's supposed to do is come back with more money." -Dr. Felecia Froe   "I want finances not to be the reason that you're stuck." - Dr. Felecia Froe

What if the two words you never meant to say turned out to be the most important words of your life? In this episode, Ryan Lee, founder of Wealth Outside Wall Street and author of Retire in 10 Years or Less, shares how losing most of his net worth in 2008 led him to discover a completely different way of thinking about money. He retired at 34, not because he was rich, but because he had built enough cash flow from 17 rental properties to walk away from a job he never wanted. The moment came when his boss Rob showed up unexpectedly to offer him more territory. Ryan was sitting there mentally counting his cash flow when Rob asked if he was ready. Without thinking, he said "I quit." He spent the next decade teaching over 3,000 people to do the same.   [00:04:00] What He Does and Who He Serves Founder of Wealth Outside Wall Street, helping driven individuals take control of their money Serves entrepreneurs, business owners, and freedom seekers who want more control over their time Believes money's greatest value is giving people more options with their time [00:06:00] How He Got Here Dropped out of high school; came back at 23 and finished a four-year degree in two Moved to Arizona for his first corporate job; opened his first paycheck and nearly quit on the spot Was making less as a college grad than he was as a self-employed hustler paying his way through school Decided to climb the corporate ladder instead; 2008 changed everything [00:09:00] The 2008 Wake-Up Call Watched his net worth drop from $100,000 to $28,000 at the bottom of the crash Realized he had no control over the outcome of what he was investing in Saw people 20 to 30 years ahead of him watching their retirements melt away Decided he had to find a completely different way to think about money [00:11:00] The Books That Changed His Paradigm Picked up Rich Dad Poor Dad after 2008; the phrase "savers are losers" hit him like a slap Found Creating Wealth by Robert Allen with a subtitle promising retirement in 10 years The strategy was simple: buy two single-family homes a year for 10 years That concept filled the void Kiyosaki opened and gave him a concrete path forward [00:14:00] The Day He Quit Was managing the Denver territory for a medical equipment company when his boss Rob showed up unexpectedly Rob offered him three additional territories; more road, more travel, more time away from family While Rob was talking, Ryan was mentally adding up his cash flow from 17 rental properties Rob asked if he was ready; Ryan looked up and said "I quit" without planning to [00:17:00] The First Client Who Started It All: Dr. Wes Brown A week after quitting, a doctor he used to sell equipment to called and asked how he did it Sat with him at his kitchen table and mapped out what he would do if he were in his position Eighteen months later Dr. Brown quit medicine and has been singing in his choir ever since That one conversation led to 3,000 clients; Dr. Brown started sending referrals immediately [00:21:00] The First Relationship That Changed Everything: Russell Brunson After three years and 250 clients, wanted to reach more people but had no idea how to go online Read Dotcom Secrets in 18 hours; it was a manual for everything he wanted but didn't know how to do Found out Brunson was hosting an event in San Diego in 10 days; bought tickets and showed up Paid $25,000 to join his inner circle; says the return has been 10x what he ever paid [00:25:00] The Second and Third Relationships: Robert Allen and Robert Kiyosaki Hosted a live event and decided to invite the two authors who had shaped his entire philosophy Used mutual friend Randy Garn to connect with Robert Allen; got to Kiyosaki through another connection Gave them both lifetime achievement awards on stage; Allen said it was the most fulfilled he had ever felt by writing a book Allen co-authored his new book Retire in 10 Years or Less; Kiyosaki wrote the foreword [00:32:00] Final Word: Mindset, Skillset, Network The three best investments anyone can make are mindset, skillset, and network Mindset determines what you can see; upgrade your paradigm and new possibilities appear A strong network means you always have someone to call when things get hard or when things are great Be the kind of person others call in a crisis; that is the greatest form of leverage you can have   KEY QUOTES "Money's greatest intrinsic value is to give each one of us more control over our time and more options with what we do with that time." - Ryan Lee "Mindset, skillset, network. Those are the three best investments you can ever make." - Ryan Lee CONNECT WITH RYAN LEE Website: https://www.wealthoutsidewallstreet.com Book: https://www.retirein10years.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-d-lee-31838b304 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ryan.d.lee.50   Thanks for tuning in! If you liked my show, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, and subscribe! Find me on: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | iHeart Radio | Stitcher

Do you realize it takes a staggering $27 million in paid-off real estate to passively net $1 million a year? Too many real estate investors read Rich Dad Poor Dad and instantly want to jump into building a rental portfolio, completely ignoring the active business required to actually fund it. In this perspective-shifting episode, Brent Daniels breaks down the national data to prove exactly why you are likely building wealth backwards. He shares how he netted $1.14 million last year working just five hours a week, simply by keeping marketing costs low and hiring top-tier talent. You will discover the hidden 50% operating expense landlords face, why your attention is your ultimate currency, and the proper sequence for funneling wholesale profits into safe, long-term assets. Stop playing landlord when you should be operating like a CEO. Be a part of the TTP training program now.---------Show notes:(0:53) How the book Rich Dad Poor Dad breaks your brain regarding passive income(1:55) The ultimate passive income goal, which is netting $1,000,000 a year after taxes(3:01) Breaking down the national statistics on residential rental rates and operating expenses(4:56) Why you actually need $27 million in paid-off real estate to net $1 million a year(7:00) How Brent netted $1.14 million last year working only five hours a week(8:18) The secret to massive net profits are low marketing budgets and high-quality team members(10:03) Why you must build a wildly profitable business before becoming a full-time investor(10:59) Why your personal attention is the most valuable resource on planet earth(12:38) The danger of wasting your entrepreneurial energy managing a small rental portfolio(13:58) Breaking down the Cashflow Quadrant and the fastest true path to wealth creation----------Resources:Dew Wealth ManagementStatistaRich Dad Poor DadTo speak with Brent or one of our other expert coaches call (281) 835-4201 or schedule your free discovery call here to learn about our mentorship programs and become part of the TribeGo to Wholesalingincgroup.com to become part of one of the fastest growing Facebook communities in the Wholesaling space. Get all of your burning Wholesaling questions answered, gain access to JV partnerships, and connect with other "success minded" Rhinos in the community.It's 100% free to join. The opportunities in this community  are endless, what are you waiting for?

In this episode, we sit down with Garrett Gunderson, entrepreneur, financial educator, and bestselling author of Money Unmasked and Killing Sacred Cows 2.0, to challenge some of the most common beliefs about money and wealth creation… For more than 25 years, Garrett has helped business owners and entrepreneurs rethink traditional financial advice, showing them how to increase cash flow, reduce financial inefficiencies, and build lasting wealth without sacrificing the life they want to live today. Known for his unconventional approach to personal finance, Garrett encourages people to move beyond outdated financial rules by focusing on increasing their value, protecting what they earn, and making intentional financial decisions rather than relying solely on conventional investing strategies. This conversation explores: The biggest financial myths that prevent people from building wealth. Why earning more can often be more impactful than simply cutting expenses. How taxes, interest, fees, and financial inefficiencies quietly reduce long-term wealth. The importance of cash flow and financial flexibility. Garrett is the author of ten books on personal finance and entrepreneurship, and has had work published in the Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and more. His insights have been endorsed by leading financial and business authors, and he has shared the stage with influential speakers including the Dalai Lama, Richard Branson, Tony Robbins, and Robert Kiyosaki. Through his books, speaking engagements, and educational programs, Garrett continues to help individuals rethink their relationship with money and build wealth on their own terms. Connect with Garrett: Website Instagram Get your free Money Book Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/garrettbgunderson/  X: https://x.com/GBGunderson  Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@GarrettGundersonTV  Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@garrettgunderson_ 

Sharon Lechter is a globally recognized keynote speaker, bestselling author, and elite business strategist committed to advancing financial literacy and entrepreneurial success. A licensed CPA for over 35 years, she co-authored the international bestseller Rich Dad Poor Dad and more than a dozen titles in the Rich Dad series. As CEO, she helped grow the Rich Dad Company into a worldwide brand. Sharon also partnered with the Napoleon Hill Foundation to reintroduce timeless success principles through bestselling books including Think and Grow Rich: Three Feet from Gold, Outwitting the Devil, and Think and Grow Rich for Women. She is the founder and CEO of Pay Your Family First, a financial education organization focused on empowering families and business owners. Appointed to the first U.S. President's Advisory Council on Financial Literacy, she has advised national leaders while continuing her impact as a mentor, philanthropist, mother, and grandmother.  During the show we discuss: Why financial literacy—not income—is the foundation of wealth The difference between active income vs. passive income (and why it matters) How the Cashflow game teaches real-world wealth-building principles Why most people make poor financial decisions—and how to avoid them How to think like an investor instead of an employee The real reason Rich Dad Poor Dad resonated globally—and what it teaches How to build scalable income streams through assets (real estate, business, investments) Why mindset and habits determine long-term financial success more than tactics Resources: https://sharonlechter.com/ https://success.sharonlechter.com/

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Get my new book: https://bronsonequity.com/fireyourselfDownload my new special report - How to Use Inflation to Your Advantage - www.bronsonequity.com/inflationIn this episode of The Mailbox Money Show, Bronson Hill and co-host Nate Hambrick welcome Nathan Barkocy for a deeply personal conversation about life, death, faith, and redefining true wealth.Nathan shares his near-death experience at age 16, what he saw in heaven, and how that moment completely transformed his perspective on money, time, risk, and legacy. The discussion covers overcoming adversity, building multiple streams of income, the power of mentorship, and creating wealth that extends far beyond dollars.About the Guest:Nathan Barkocy is the author of Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth (co-authored with Sharon Lechter of Rich Dad Poor Dad fame), a successful real estate investor, entrepreneur, and founder of the True Wealth community. A former nationally ranked cyclist, his life was forever changed by a miraculous recovery that reshaped how he views success and impact.Tune in for an inspiring episode on resilience, faith, and building lasting wealth.TIMESTAMPS0:40 - Welcome | Guest Intro: Nathan Barkocy1:55 - Nate Hambrick on Adversity2:35 - Nathan's Near-Death Experience at Age 165:13 - Near-Death Experience Reshaping Views on Wealth8:07 - Living with Heaven's Perspective on Earth9:24 - The Premise of Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth12:25 - True Wealth as a Graduate Course Beyond Money13:52 - Asset Classes and Cash-Flowing Real Estate16:25 - Boring Investments and Consistent Cash Flow20:28 - Common Mistakes New Investors Make23:25 - Prefab Homes, Land Development, and Innovative Strategies26:20 - True Wealth Community and Mentorship31:10 - Closing Takeaways CONNECT WITH THE GUESTWebsite: https://nathanbarkocy.com/Instagram: @nathanbarkocy#TrueWealth#NearDeathExperience#RealEstateInvesting#FinancialLiteracy#MultipleStreamsOfIncome#FaithAndFinance#MindsetShift

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) — Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: ⁠https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join⁠ Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes and learn more at:⁠ OLDPodcast.com⁠. Episode 3634: Kalen Bruce challenges the belief that college is the only path to success, arguing that trade schools can offer fulfilling, financially rewarding careers without the same cost or time commitment. He encourages parents to have intentional conversations with their children and support the path that best matches their interests, talents, and purpose. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://freedomsprout.com/trade-schools/ Quotes to ponder: "College doesn't always guarantee success, and frankly, college simply isn't for everyone." "We want our kids to be happy and to do what they were meant to do." "As long as their decision is intentional, we will let them determine their own path." Episode references: Rich Dad Poor Dad: https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Dad-Poor-Teach-Middle/dp/1612681131 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Grow A Small Business Podcast host Troy Trewin interviews Adiel Gorel, Founder of International Capital Group, shares how he went from being a Hewlett-Packard engineer to building a 42-year real estate investment business that has helped investors purchase more than 10,000 homes. He explains why long-term thinking, fixed-rate mortgages, and staying calm during market downturns create lasting wealth. Adiel also discusses scaling a business, leading through economic cycles, building the right mindset, and avoiding panic when recessions hit. His journey offers practical lessons on entrepreneurship, resilience, and financial freedom through disciplined investing. Check out Adiel Gorel's book, Remote Control Retirement Riches: How to Change Your Future with Rental Homes. In this practical guide, he shares the proven strategies that have helped investors build long-term wealth through rental properties. Whether you're a first-time investor or looking to grow your portfolio, the book offers actionable insights on creating financial freedom through smart real estate investing. Why would you wait any longer to start living the lifestyle you signed up for? Balance your health, wealth, relationships and business growth. And focus your time and energy and make the most of this year. Let's get into it by clicking here.   Troy delves into our guest's startup journey, their perception of success, industry reconsideration, and the pivotal stress point during business expansion. They discuss the joys of small business growth, vital entrepreneurial habits, and strategies for team building, encompassing wins, blunders, and invaluable advice.   And a snapshot of the final five Grow A Small Business Questions:  What do you think is the hardest thing in growing a small business? Adiel Gorel shares that the hardest part of growing a small business is living with uncertainty and accepting that the responsibility ultimately rests on the owner. Unlike a traditional job, there is no guaranteed paycheck, and every decision affects both the business and the employees who rely on it. He emphasizes that entrepreneurs must stay resilient, take ownership, and remain prepared for both opportunities and setbacks. What's your favorite business book that has helped you the most? Adiel Gorel shares that one of the business books he highly recommends is his own, Remote Control Retirement Riches, which reflects decades of real estate investing experience. He also praises Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki for its powerful lessons on wealth creation and financial mindset, noting that its principles have inspired countless aspiring investors and entrepreneurs. Are there any great podcasts or online learning resources you'd recommend to help grow a small business? Adiel Gorel shares that while he doesn't regularly follow business podcasts, he spends much of his learning time exploring health and wellness content. He believes maintaining good health gives entrepreneurs the energy, focus, and mental clarity needed to build and grow a successful business over the long term. What tool or resource would you recommend to grow a small business? Adiel Gorel shares that every business needs a balance between simplicity and effective systems. He recommends using reliable accounting software like QuickBooks to stay organized, manage finances efficiently, and gain a clear understanding of the business's financial health as it grows. What advice would you give yourself on day one of starting out in business? Adiel Gorel shares that he would remind his younger self that business moves in cycles, with both booms and downturns. He advises entrepreneurs not to become overconfident during good times or panic during recessions, emphasizing that patience, preparation, and staying the course are often the keys to long-term success.  Book a 20-minute Growth Chat with Troy Trewin to see if you qualify for our upcoming course. Don't miss out on this opportunity to take your small business to new heights! Enjoyed the podcast? Please leave a review on iTunes or your preferred platform. Your feedback helps more small business owners discover our podcast and embark on their business growth journey.   Quotable quotes from our special Grow A Small Business podcast guest: You are not a cog in the machine you are the machine - Adiel Gorel Success comes from staying focused while time and patience do the heavy lifting - Adiel Gorel The biggest mistakes in business happen when fear replaces long term thinking - Adiel Gorel      

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) — Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: ⁠https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join⁠ Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes and learn more at:⁠ OLDPodcast.com⁠. Episode 3634: Kalen Bruce challenges the belief that college is the only path to success, arguing that trade schools can offer fulfilling, financially rewarding careers without the same cost or time commitment. He encourages parents to have intentional conversations with their children and support the path that best matches their interests, talents, and purpose. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://freedomsprout.com/trade-schools/ Quotes to ponder: "College doesn't always guarantee success, and frankly, college simply isn't for everyone." "We want our kids to be happy and to do what they were meant to do." "As long as their decision is intentional, we will let them determine their own path." Episode references: Rich Dad Poor Dad: https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Dad-Poor-Teach-Middle/dp/1612681131 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) — Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: ⁠https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join⁠ Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes and learn more at:⁠ OLDPodcast.com⁠. Episode 3634: Kalen Bruce challenges the belief that college is the only path to success, arguing that trade schools can offer fulfilling, financially rewarding careers without the same cost or time commitment. He encourages parents to have intentional conversations with their children and support the path that best matches their interests, talents, and purpose. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://freedomsprout.com/trade-schools/ Quotes to ponder: "College doesn't always guarantee success, and frankly, college simply isn't for everyone." "We want our kids to be happy and to do what they were meant to do." "As long as their decision is intentional, we will let them determine their own path." Episode references: Rich Dad Poor Dad: https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Dad-Poor-Teach-Middle/dp/1612681131 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today's episode, I'm joined by bestselling author, financial educator, and Rich Dad Poor Dad co-author Sharon Lechter to talk about the mindset behind lasting success. We break down her Personal Success Equation, combining passion, talent, association, action, and faith to create meaningful results. Sharon explains why mentorship shortens the learning curve, how fear can become fuel, and why the greatest wealth transfer in history demands better financial education. We also discuss building income-producing assets, protecting your environment, investing your time wisely, and staying anchored to your purpose even when circumstances force your strategy to change.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

David Richter of Simple CFO breaks down one of the most practical questions real estate investors avoid: how to actually pay yourself first instead of paying everyone else and their mother. Drawing on the Profit First formula, he walks through the exact system for setting owner's pay when your income is unpredictable.This solo episode swaps the broken "sales minus expenses equals profit" model for the wealth formula and shows you how to build an owner's comp account that pays you consistently. If you're a real estate investor closing deals but feeling guilty about taking money out and wondering where all the cash went, this one is for you.Timeline Summary[0:26] – David opens with the hard truth that your business might be paying everyone except the person who built it[0:47] – Why the standard "sales minus expenses equals profit" formula keeps owners stuck in a rat race[1:40] – Waking up a decade into your business asking where all the money went[2:03] – The Profit First wealth formula flipped: sales minus profit equals expenses[2:23] – Why so many owners feel guilty taking money out of their own business[2:40] – Breaking down the three required components: sales, profit, and expenses in the right order[3:17] – The pay-yourself-first principle from Rich Dad Poor Dad and Robert Kiyosaki[3:36] – Lessons from The Richest Man in Babylon and The 7 Habits on putting first things first[3:57] – What margin actually means and why it's your financial safety buffer[4:32] – The simplest first step: open a separate owner's comp bank account today[5:02] – A real example of splitting $10,000 in income into consistent owner's pay[5:21] – Why the "black hole" single bank account keeps you from ever getting paid[6:15] – Building personal stability so the entrepreneurial roller coaster doesn't shake you[6:40] – Why an owner's comp account matters most when a spouse or family depends on you[7:05] – Finding your two key numbers: what you need and what you want[9:11] – Advice for W2 earners: build 6 to 12 months of reserves before making the jump5 Key TakeawaysFlip The Broken Formula — Stop using sales minus expenses equals profit. The wealth formula is sales minus profit equals expenses, so you pay yourself before you fund everything else.Open An Owner's Comp Account — Create a dedicated business checking account and route a set portion of every deal into it. This single move turns "pay yourself first" from a slogan into a habit.Know Your Need And Want Numbers — Pin down what you need monthly to cover your lifestyle, then what you want to fund your dreams. These two numbers give your owner's pay a target.Kill The Guilt Around Getting Paid — A dedicated account removes the guilt of pulling money out because it's earmarked for you. You built the business, and you deserve to be paid from it.Build Reserves Before You Leap — If you're still working a W2, stack 6 to 12 months of owner's comp reserves before quitting. Full-time investors should hold 3 to 6 months to weather the ups and downs.Links & Resources• Simple CFO — https://simplecfo.com Enjoyed This Episode?If David's owner's comp account idea got you rethinking how you pay yourself, don't keep it to yourself. Share this episode with a fellow investor who's paying everyone but themselves, and if it gave you a new perspective, follow the show and leave a rating and review so more real estate investors can build real financial clarity.

Everybody keeps saying the same thing: young people can't afford to buy homes anymore. Justice Bigot isn't ignoring today's market, but he also isn't buying into the idea that homeownership is out of reach. At just 26 years old, he's helping clients navigate a challenging market by focusing on honesty, relationships, and practical advice instead of hype. If you've been wondering whether homeownership is still possible or whether the next generation of real estate professionals is ready to lead, this episode is worth your time.   Key takeaways to listen for Why saying "I don't know" can actually make clients trust you more How AI can support great REALTORS® without replacing them Why consistency matters more than years of experience What first-time buyers need to hear in today's market Justice's "Like. Value. Trust." philosophy for building a lasting business   Resources mentioned in this episode Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert T. Kiyosaki Like, Value, Trust by Justice Bigot   About Justice Bigot Justice Bigot is a REALTOR® serving the Central Florida area, where he helps buyers and sellers navigate the real estate process with honesty, clear communication, and a relationship-first approach. Passionate about making homeownership more attainable, Justice embraces new technology while believing that trust and genuine human connection will always be at the heart of great service.   Connect with Justice Instagram: @justice.big TikTok: @justbigrealty YouTube: Just Real Estate X: @JusticeBigotRE Email: justice.bigot@cbrealty.com Contact Number: (407) 676-9431   About Leigh Brown Leigh Brown is a keynote speaker and leadership expert who helps organizations navigate growth, conflict, and change with clarity and courage. Her message resonates with leaders facing real-world pressure—whether that's housing challenges, organizational friction, or cultural shifts. Her latest book, Next Is Now, equips leaders to stop reacting and start leading with intention.

Katie Neason shares how childhood financial hardship, redevelopment wisdom, and disciplined investing helped her build wealth, revive Main Street, and inspire others to start before they feel ready.See article: https://www.unitedstatesrealestateinvestor.com/build-wealth-revive-main-street-and-start-before-you-feel-ready-with-katie-neason/(00:00) - Introduction to The REI Agent Podcast and Katie Neason(05:00) - Childhood Bankruptcy, Financial Fear, and Discovering Wealth Education(10:00) - Rich Dad Poor Dad, Financial Awareness, and Rebuilding After Loss(15:00) - Redevelopment Explained: Small Projects, Existing Infrastructure, and Reducing Risk(20:00) - BRRR, Townhomes, Mixed-Use Projects, and Building Generational Assets(25:00) - Katie's First Development Deal and Proving Downtown Demand(30:00) - Property Management, Knowing Yourself, and Separating Income From Wealth(35:00) - Tax Strategy, Cost Segregation, and Planning for Depreciation(40:00) - Comprehensive Plans, City Support, and Aligning With Local Growth(45:00) - Invest Where You're Invested, Start Small, and House-Hacking Lessons(50:00) - Depression Prepper Books, Katie's Instagram, and Final REI Agent OutroContact Katie Neasonhttps://www.katieneason.com/https://www.facebook.com/RenovationWranglers/https://www.instagram.com/katiedevelops/https://www.linkedin.com/in/katie-neason-89b4a7a/Katie Neason's story is a powerful reminder that wealth is not built by waiting for perfect timing. It is built by learning the market, starting small, protecting the downside, and investing where the mission matters. Her journey from childhood financial uncertainty to Main Street redevelopment shows what can happen when fear becomes wisdom and wisdom becomes action. For more conversations that help you build wealth, freedom, and a life with purpose, visit https://reiagent.comIs success destroying your peace? Most pros grind until they break. Download The Investor's Life Balance Sheet: A Holistic Wealth Audit to see if you are building a legacy or heading for burnout. Presented by The REI Agent Podcast & United States Real Estate Investor® https://sendfox.com/lp/m4jrl

In this episode of the Pulse Podcast, co-founders Miguel and Rudy of Acquired share their rapid growth in the California real estate market, tracking toward $300 million in sales volume and over 6 million in assignments for 2024. They discuss the transition from solo entrepreneurs to building a systematic real estate ecosystem that includes wholesaling, flipping, escrow, and staging.

About Jimmy VreelandJimmy graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point, spent 5 years as an Army Ranger, and deployed three times twice to Iraq and once to Afghanistan. On his last deployment, he read Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki which led him down the path of real estate investing. As his own portfolio grew, eventually he started a real estate investing business. Since 2018 his team at Vreeland Capital has supplied over 100 houses a year to high performing, passive investors who want to work with his team and his team is now managing over 800 houses.Get in touch with Jimmy and his team at www.jimmyvreeland.com/getstartedinrealestateMore about JimmyWebsite: www.jimmyvreeland.comLinkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/jimmy-vreelandInstagram: www.instagram.com/jimmyvreelandFacebook: www.facebook.com/JimmyVreelandYoutube: www.youtube.com/@JimmyVreelandC>>>>>>Get free access to the private Ranger Real Estate facebook group

In this episode of the CEO Pulse Podcast, real estate investing veteran David Olds shares his journey from reading "Rich Dad Poor Dad" in an airport to building the nation's largest transaction coordination company. With over 24 years of experience and 9,000+ transactions managed, David provides a raw look at the grit required to scale a service-based business and the critical importance of mastering the "paperwork side" of real estate to ensure deals actually cross the finish line.

David Andrew Wiebe is an award-winning composer, bestselling author, and music marketing strategist dedicated to helping independent artists build sustainable careers. As the founder of Content Marketing Musician, he teaches musicians how to combine creativity with proven business systems that generate consistent growth. David has authored more than 13 books on music, creativity, and entrepreneurship, composed the acclaimed work The Nobody Prayer, and hosts a popular podcast where he shares practical insights on marketing, monetization, and personal development for today's independent artists navigating an ever-changing music industry.In this episode, you'll learn what it actually takes to build a profitable, sustainable music career without relying on luck or chasing every trend.Key TakeawaysHow to build multiple income streams that create long-term financial stability instead of depending solely on streaming revenue or gigs.The mindset shifts and decision-making frameworks that help successful independent artists grow faster and avoid common career mistakes.How to systemize your music business so you can spend less time feeling overwhelmed and more time creating meaningful work.---→ Learn more about David Andrew Wiebe and his work at: https://davidandrewwiebe.com/.Book an Artist Breakthrough Session with the Modern Musician team: https://apply.modernmusician.me/podcast

In this episode of Money Matters, Chris Hensley welcomes Jabez Roberts, host of The Working Budget and The Boardroom Podcast. Jabez shares the story behind launching The Working Budget, a new podcast focused on practical financial education, money management, and helping everyday people understand how money moves through their personal economy. Chris and Jabez discuss the connection between Kaizen and compound interest, showing how small, consistent improvements can create meaningful long-term growth. They also explore why budgeting is often misunderstood, why money decisions are emotional, and how a working budget can help people prepare for emergencies, save for the future, and spend with more intention. Jabez also shares the books that shaped his view of money, including The Richest Man in Babylon, Rich Dad Poor Dad, and One Up On Wall Street. The conversation touches on entrepreneurship, stewardship, financial education, and Jabez's mission to build a media-first education platform for Caribbean nationals and beyond. Whether you are new to budgeting or looking to improve your financial habits, this episode offers a practical reminder: budgeting is not about restriction. It is about creating a roadmap for your money and your future self. In This Episode Chris and Jabez discuss: The launch of The Working Budget Why budgeting is a roadmap to financial success How Kaizen connects with compound interest Why small daily improvements matter The difference between saving and investing Why money is emotional How impulse spending affects long-term goals Emergency funds and financial resilience The importance of practical financial education Books that shaped Jabez's approach to money The future of Zeilhan, The Boardroom Podcast, and The Working Budget Guest Jabez Roberts Host of The Working Budget and The Boardroom Podcast Website: media.zeilhan.com

Britton Eads was making $15 per hour putting up fences all day. He had no college degree; he dropped out of the electrician trade and didn't have many other options. One day, he read Rich Dad Poor Dad, and realized his life didn't need to stay on the same track it was going. Now, just four years later, he's got over 15 rental units, his rental income replaced his fence job, he's sitting on $200,000 in equity across his portfolio, and he couldn't be happier. It only happened because he took action instead of second-guessing himself. Britton's story is one of the wildest we've heard. Everything from burst pipes to ceiling holes, very low appraisals, and funding mishaps. But it didn't stop Britton from pushing forward and creating the wealth he knew was possible. He just had to learn from his mistakes.  If you feel like you're stuck, wanting to get into real estate investing, but thinking you don't have the cash, the income, or the experience, there is no better guest than Britton to prove you can start—you just need to start. In This Episode We Cover How Britton funded his first real estate deal when he had (almost) no money  The big mistakes Britton made on his first real estate deal (that you should not repeat) Using equity from one rental property to fund the purchase of another  Buying a fourplex with just 3.5% down using a loan most investors overlook When paying for a mentor (or community) is actually worth the investment  The best beginner advice from Britton to get you in the game and stay out of trouble And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠h⁠⁠t⁠t⁠ps://www⁠.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1294⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@biggerpockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David Richter is the author of Profit First for Real Estate Investors and founder of Simple CFO, a company built to help real estate investors get control of their cash flow, pay themselves consistently, and stop living deal to deal. He spent nearly a decade inside a real estate business that scaled to 25 wholesale deals a month, where he eventually took the finance seat, only to discover they were spending more than they were making — and that nearly everyone around them was in the same boat.In this featured episode, David joins Jason Lucchesi on the No Flipping Excuses show to walk through the exact financial foundation every investor needs from their first deal forward. From the Golden Trio bank accounts to finding your keep number to what clean financials actually look like to a lender, this conversation gives real estate investors a clear, no-excuse starting point for building a profitable business.This is a practical, straight-talk episode for investors at every stage — whether you're still waiting on deal one or you're ten years in and still chasing your tail. If you've ever wondered where your money goes after a deal closes, or why more deals aren't translating to more personal wealth, this is the episode that answers it.David's core message is simple: real estate is the vehicle, but money is the game. And most investors don't know the rules. This conversation gives you the foundation to start playing it right.Episode Highlights[0:26] – David teases the episode: $25 deals a month while going broke, the Golden Trio accounts, and the keep number framework[1:13] – Jason Lucchesi opens the No Flipping Excuses interview and introduces David Richter[3:16] – David's origin story: started in real estate at 19 after reading Rich Dad Poor Dad, joined a team doing 5 wholesale deals a month and helped scale it to 800+ total deals[4:35] – How David ended up in the finance seat with zero accounting background, and what he learned sitting down with the CPA to understand profit, loss, and cash flow[5:14] – The wake-up call: doing $25 deals a month but spending $26 worth out the door — and realizing at masterminds that this was an industry-wide problem[7:07] – Why Gary Harper's recommendation of Profit First hit David so hard, and how it led him to partner with Mike Michalowicz on a real estate-specific edition[9:31] – Why the classic "pay yourself first" advice from Rich Dad and The Richest Man in Babylon always stopped short — and what Profit First does differently[12:09] – The #1 mistake most investors make: the single "black hole" account where all money comes in and disappears, with every decision based solely on the balance[13:52] – Introducing the Golden Trio: profit, owner's comp, and owner's tax accounts — and why even 1% into each is enough to start breaking the deal-to-deal cycle[15:31] – Why Relay Bank partnered with Profit First and how to open up to 20 accounts for free to implement the system right now[21:23] – How to figure out realistic starting percentages, why 1% beats 0%, and when to begin ramping toward the recommended targets based on your revenue range[24:10] – The lender advantage: why having clean, structured financials and visible reserves makes you far more attractive for financing on rentals and portfolio growth[26:35] – Role play: two investors walk into a bank — one sloppy, one Profit First-style — and what actually happens in underwriting[29:49] – Finding your keep number: how one investor lost $70,000 in 2019, found his number, and realized he only needed five deals in 2020 to hit his goal[35:10] – David's two book recommendations: Crucial Conversations (for life, marriage, and leadership) and Fix This Next by Mike Michalowicz (for diagnosing your business stage)5 Key TakeawaysThe single bank account is the root problem. Most investors run their entire business out of one account and make every spending decision based on the balance. Splitting into multiple named accounts creates instant clarity about what money is yours, what belongs to taxes, and what's actually available to invest.Start with the Golden Trio, not a perfect system. Profit, owner's comp, and owner's tax accounts are the three that matter most first. Even putting 1% into each from every deal builds the habit and keeps you from sending everything out the back end of your business.The Hope and Pray plan is not a strategy. Hoping a deal closes before payroll is due isn't business management, it's survival mode. Knowing your keep number — the actual monthly amount you need to take home — replaces hope with a real target and changes how you size deals, marketing spend, and growth.More deals don't fix a broken system. Scaling a business that loses money on cash flow just creates bigger losses at higher volume. Getting the financial foundation right at five deals a month means you're actually building something — not just generating more chaos with more zeros.Clean financials make you a better borrower. Lenders look at reserves, structure, and cash management. Investors running Profit First-style accounts with visible cash buffers get better terms, faster approvals, and more lender interest than operators with sloppy books, regardless of how many deals they've closed.Links & ResourcesProfit First for Real Estate Investors (free copy) — https://www.simplecfo.com/giftSimple CFO (book, podcast, and discovery call) — https://www.simplecfo.comRelay Bank (Profit First-friendly banking, up to 20 free accounts) — https://www.relay.comProfit First by Mike Michalowicz — available on Audible and AmazonCrucial Conversations by Kerry Patterson et al. — available on Audible and AmazonFix This Next by Mike Michalowicz — available on Audible and AmazonRich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki — referenced by David as the book that started it allClosing RemarkIf this episode gave you a clearer picture of what your finances should actually look like, share it with an investor friend who's still running everything through one account. The Golden Trio is a simple starting point anyone can implement this week, and it might be the most impactful hour they spend on their business all year. Subscribe, review, and share the show — and if you're ready to get your numbers dialed in, visit https://www.simplecfo.com to book your free discovery call today.

He had $300 to his name, sleeping on a mate's floor in Perth, Australia. Then a stranger in an empty pub changed everything — and 23 years later he owns 46 properties and manages 800 more.

Many urgent care owners dream about taking a vacation.Very few actually disconnect.In this episode of Walk-Ins Welcome, Nick and Michael tackle one of the biggest challenges facing clinic owners and operators: building a business that can function without them. They discuss why so many leaders struggle to step away, the hidden risks of becoming the bottleneck in your organization, and how time away can reveal weaknesses that need attention.The conversation explores the difference between being self-employed and being a true business owner, why leadership teams need decision-making authority, and how documentation, systems, and accountability create freedom. They also share practical ways to stress-test your clinic, identify key-person dependencies, and build a team capable of handling challenges while you're away.If the thought of unplugging for a week makes you nervous, this episode will help you understand why and what to do about it. 

What happens when you run the numbers on the Airbnb you're staying in and realize it beats every turnkey rental you toured that day? For Tim Hubbard, it meant walking away from the long term rental deal he flew to Tennessee to find, buying a historic eight-unit apartment building instead, and converting it to short term rentals. That single property went on to earn roughly eight times what it produced as a long term rental, and it set him free.In this episode, host David Richter sits down with Tim to trace the whole journey: discovering Rich Dad Poor Dad nearly 20 years ago, fighting through loan denials as a 1099 contractor to buy a foreclosure fourplex in downtown Sacramento in 2010, house hacking one unit while the other three covered the bills, and 1031 exchanging his way into bigger buildings and better markets.Today Tim runs roughly 65 units, 45 of them short term rentals, from South America, where he's lived for nearly a decade, first in Colombia and now in Brazil. He's also weeks away from opening the first phase of a boutique resort in Colombia and leads Corzly, a core operating center that handles revenue management, 24/7 guest communication, and marketing for short term rental owners and property managers in more than 40 cities.Tim doesn't sugarcoat the 2026 short term rental market: it's more competitive, guest expectations are higher, and owners still pricing like it's two years ago aren't getting booked. This conversation is a masterclass in reading supply and demand, finding the luxury edge, and building operations that let the profit actually reach you.Episode Highlights[1:01] – David welcomes Tim Hubbard, short term rental investor and host of Short Term Rental Riches[1:50] – Discovering Rich Dad Poor Dad young and buying a first property within about two years[3:50] – The 2010 foreclosure fourplex in downtown Sacramento: FHA loan, 1099 income, and repeated denials[5:16] – House hacking one unit, renting out three, and cash flowing from day one[6:25] – 1031 exchanging four units into nine in a better appreciating out-of-state market[6:59] – The Tennessee light bulb: the Airbnb he rented penciled far better than the turnkey rentals he toured[7:43] – Buying a historic eight-unit building and spending a year converting it to short term rentals[9:12] – The eight unit that earned eight times more and funded a move to South America[10:19] – Tim's 2026 portfolio: 65 units, 45 short term rentals, and a boutique resort under construction in Colombia[11:58] – How managing properties virtually from abroad grew into Corzly, now operating in over 40 cities[13:21] – Why centralized revenue management and 24/7 guest teams beat hiring locally for small portfolios[17:13] – The seasonal hybrid play: nightly rates in high season, monthly rentals in the off season[18:14] – Tim's biggest lessons: leave for better returns, and think twice before long-timeline projects[20:43] – Advice for new investors: verify supply and demand with a tool like AirDNA before buying anything[22:25] – Why unique luxury properties now have more upside and more recession resistance than commodity rentals[24:31] – Reviews, visibility, and dynamic pricing: the operational levers that can double revenue5 Key TakeawaysThe same property can earn dramatically more under a different strategy; Tim's eight-unit building produced roughly eight times more as short term rentals than it did with long term tenants.Invest where the numbers make sense, not where you happen to live; leaving California for out-of-state returns is the decision Tim credits with setting him free.Before buying a short term rental in 2026, study supply and demand with a tool like AirDNA, and avoid markets where average revenue is falling while purchase prices stay high.The market is inefficient enough that two identical properties next door to each other can have double the revenue gap; strong reviews drive visibility, and dynamic pricing tools like PriceLabs or Wheelhouse are now mandatory to compete.Core operations like revenue management and around-the-clock guest communication don't belong in-house for small portfolios; centralizing them is the same logic as hiring a fractional CFO instead of a full-time one.Links & ResourcesShort Term Rental Riches podcast — https://strriches.comCorzly, Tim's short term rental operations company — https://www.facebook.com/corzlyRich Dad Poor Dad by Robert KiyosakiAirDNA market research tool — https://www.airdna.coPriceLabs and Wheelhouse dynamic pricing toolsBook your free discovery call with Simple CFO — https://simplecfo.comClosing RemarkTim Hubbard built the kind of business most investors say they want: a portfolio that runs without him in the room, from another continent, with profit that funds the life he actually chose. But as David points out, Tim didn't just make that money, he knew how to keep it, and he knew what every property was earning. If you're closing deals but still feeling broke, that's the gap Simple CFO exists to close. Subscribe, review, and share this episode, and if you're serious about financial systems and keeping more of your profit, visit https://simplecfo.com to take your free discovery call today.

In this episode, Lane Kawaoka joins us to discuss his book, The Wealth Elevator: Real Estate Syndications, Accredited Investor Banking, and Tax Strategies for First-Gen Millionaires. As a seasoned real estate investor, Lane has built a portfolio valued at more than $2.1 billion and has helped hundreds of investors access alternative wealth-building strategies through real estate syndications. Lane is the founder of The Wealth Elevator and the Hui Deal Pipeline Club. Since 2016, he has syndicated more than $205 million in private equity and facilitated over $45 million in distributions to investors. Through his work, he helps working professionals create passive income streams and pursue financial freedom through strategic investing, tax optimization, and alternative asset ownership. This conversation covers: How Lane got started in the business industry.  The mindset shifts required to build long-term wealth. Why syndications can provide opportunities beyond traditional investing. Common mistakes new investors make when evaluating deals. Interested in learning how real estate syndications, tax planning, and alternative investments can help accelerate your path to financial independence? Tune in to hear Lane share the lessons, strategies, and experiences that have shaped his approach to building long-term wealth. Connect with Lane: LinkedIn Instagram The Wealth Elevator Website Free Masterclass 

The real estate investing moves you make today could change your life. Those in their 40s, 50s, and 60s often look back and regret not starting sooner. Today's guest isn't letting that happen, and in this episode, she'll show YOU how to take advantage when that next rental property comes your way! Welcome back to the Real Estate Rookie podcast! When Megan Chou's father challenged her to read the personal finance classic, Rich Dad Poor Dad, little did she know it would completely alter her life's trajectory. The book's lessons on building wealth inspired her to stash her money away in a brokerage account and, at just 20 years old, buy her very own rental property—a townhome she house hacked with her best friend. Then, only two years later, right as she was graduating from college, she took down a fourplex—renovating each unit while living in it, one by one. Stay tuned as Megan shares how she leveraged her home equity to buy it, what went wrong after buying the property, and how she stayed resilient when her property started fighting back! In This Episode We Cover How Megan bought her first two rental properties (while still in college!) How to fund your next investment property using your existing home equity What Zillow, Redfin, and the MLS can't tell you about properties or neighborhoods Bouncing back from ice, raccoons, and plumbing failure on the same property Two crucial things to do when experiencing a setback with your property And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠h⁠t⁠⁠tps://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/rookie-728. Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@biggerpockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jarrod Frankum started his real estate journey with nothing — no cash, no credit, and a $500-a-month budget he'd carried home from two years of campus ministry in Brazil. Seven years later, he owns six properties outright and holds an additional eight in partnership, runs a wholesaling and buy-and-hold business that funds his life across two continents, and attributes a significant part of his financial survival to implementing Profit First early and staying disciplined through multiple market cycles.This conversation tracks the full arc of Jarrod's story — from skateboarding through neighborhoods writing down addresses on his phone, to closing his first wholesale deal for just under $10K, to navigating the real market stress test of running a U.S. real estate business remotely from Brazil. Along the way, David and Jarrod dig into how Profit First helped Jarrod throttle income, take the emotion out of big deal closings, and build a financial cushion that carried him through the unexpected friction of running a business abroad.If you've ever closed a deal and wondered where the money went, or felt like you can't trust your bank account balance to tell you the truth, Jarrod's experience with multiple accounts, automatic distributions, and tax reserves will show you exactly what it looks like when the system does the thinking for you.This episode is for the real estate investor who is tired of operating in financial chaos and is ready to build something that actually holds up when the market gets cold.Episode Highlights[0:27] – Jarrod previews the Profit First mindset that helped him survive moving back to Brazil mid-business[1:17] – David introduces Jarrod and how they connected at a Nashville mastermind[1:54] – Jarrod's current exit strategies: wholesaling as the primary driver, buy-and-hold as the long-term play, and flips when the right deal comes along[3:16] – The Rich Dad Poor Dad moment that gave Jarrod goosebumps during an HVAC internship six months before graduating with a mechanical engineering degree[4:51] – Why Jarrod left America with almost nothing, did campus ministry in Brazil on $500 a month, and what that season taught him about contentment and grit[5:31] – How Jarrod found his first deal: skateboarding neighborhoods, hand-writing letters, buying stamps, and closing a $9,500 wholesale deal after three months[7:48] – What living with seven roommates in a no-AC house in South America taught him about fulfillment that had nothing to do with money[9:24] – The Gap and the Gain mindset: how Jarrod measures progress from where he started, not from where he wants to be[13:59] – Where Jarrod is today: six properties in his own entity, eight more in partnership, 0% interest deals, and a rental portfolio that funds his life in Brazil[17:18] – How Jarrod found Profit First in early 2020 and why his background managing 1099 income made the multiple-account framework immediately click[19:13] – The core problem Profit First solves: why a $10K balance can actually mean you have $87 to spend, and how multiple accounts eliminate that confusion[21:10] – How Jarrod uses Relay Bank to automate distributions on the 10th and 25th so the system runs without him touching it[23:16] – Why Profit First isn't just for good times: how it functions as stored grain for the winter when real estate cycles go cold[25:09] – How throttling income to twice-a-month distribution dates takes the emotion out of deal closings and prevents impulsive spending[28:02] – Jarrod's take on reinvesting more aggressively now: still paying himself, still funded on all accounts, but consciously directing more toward growth at 34[31:35] – Closing advice: the deal of a lifetime comes around once a month — stay consistent, stay faithful to what's working, and trust the systems5 Key TakeawaysContentment before cash flow is the foundation. Jarrod learned on $500 a month in Brazil that fulfillment isn't tied to income — and that mindset is what kept him from panicking when the business hit hard stretches. If you need a certain number in your account before you feel okay, the number will never be high enough.Getting started with almost nothing is an advantage if you treat it that way. Jarrod had no capital, no credit, and no connections — so he skateboarded neighborhoods, hand-wrote letters, and spent $300 on stamps before he had the money to spare. The lack of a safety net forced action, and that first $9,500 wholesale deal proved the model worked.Multiple accounts do the thinking so you don't have to. The reason Profit First works isn't just the percentages — it's that you never have to look at one number and guess what it means. When taxes, owner's pay, and operating expenses each have their own home, your bank balance finally tells the truth.Throttling income to set distribution dates removes the emotional trap of big deal closings. When a $10K wire hits and you have to wait until the 10th to access your share, the high has already worn off. You're on to the next deal, and the money goes exactly where it was always supposed to go.A financial system isn't just a good-times tool — it's what keeps you solvent when the market turns. Jarrod had to lean on his reserves when he moved back to Brazil and the business hit unexpected friction. The difference between weathering that season and going under was having stored grain before winter arrived.Links & ResourcesSimple CFO — https://www.simplecfo.comProfit First for Real Estate Investors by David Richter — available on AmazonJarrod Frankum on Facebook — @JarrodFrankumJarrod Frankum on Instagram — @JarrodFrankumClosing RemarkJarrod's story is a reminder that the investors who build something lasting aren't the ones who caught the best market — they're the ones who built systems before they needed them. If you're closing deals but still feel like the money disappears, it's time to get a system in place that protects what you're earning. Subscribe, review, and share this episode with a fellow investor who's ready to stop living deal to deal — and if you're serious about taking control of your cash flow, visit https://www.simplecfo.com to book your free discovery call today.

What if the blueprint for building wealth hasn't changed in over 5,000 years? In this episode, Gino Barbaro breaks down the timeless principles from one of the most influential personal finance books ever written: The Richest Man in Babylon. While most people believe wealth creation is complicated, involving stock picking, market timing, economic cycles, and advanced investing strategies, the truth is much simpler. The foundation of wealth starts with habits. In this episode, Gino walks through the famous "Seven Cures for a Lean Purse" and explains how they apply to modern investing, entrepreneurship, real estate, financial planning, retirement, and creating long-term generational wealth. Whether you're just beginning your financial journey or looking to strengthen your wealth-building foundation, this episode provides timeless principles that still work today. Timestamps 00:00 – The Wealth Blueprint That Has Worked for 5,000 Years 01:28 – The First Cure: Pay Yourself First 05:54 – The Second Cure: Control Your Spending 07:40 – The Third Cure: Make Your Money Multiply 10:33 – The Fourth Cure: Protect Your Wealth 12:23 – The Fifth Cure: Make Your Home a Profitable Investment 16:06 – The Sixth Cure: Ensure Future Income 17:40 – The Seventh Cure: Increase Your Ability to Earn 19:17 – Practical Wealth-Building Exercises 20:00 – Create a Budget and Track Your Spending 22:30 – Finding the Right Investment Vehicle 24:12 – Avoiding Lifestyle Inflation 26:10 – Open Your First Investment Account 28:00 – Why Financial Education Matters 29:05 – The Importance of Tracking Net Worth 30:05 – Final Thoughts on The Richest Man in Babylon This episode is brought to you by Wheelbarrow Profits. Want to learn how successful investors create passive income, build financial freedom, and scale their wealth through multifamily real estate? Visit Wheelbarrow Profits to access educational resources, training, coaching, and tools designed to help investors take control of their financial future. We're here to help create real estate entrepreneurs... About Jake & Gino: Jake & Gino are multifamily investors, operators, and owners who have created a vertically integrated real estate company. They control over $350M in assets under management. Connect with Jake & Gino here --> https://jakeandgino.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Key Topics Covered: 1. Defining True Wealth Wealth is about creating predictable income and financial security. The goal is freedom, experiences, and a low-stress lifestyle. 2. From Corporate Career to Property Entrepreneur Transitioning from employment to financial independence through property. Recognising when a traditional career path no longer aligns with personal goals. 3. The Impact of Rich Dad Poor Dad How financial education can change perspectives on wealth building. The importance of developing an investor mindset. 4. Learning Through Failure Early mistakes in serviced accommodation created valuable lessons. Setbacks can become turning points for future success. 5. The Demand-Led Investment Approach Find the demand before choosing the property. Reverse-engineering investments around proven market needs. 6. Understanding Serviced Accommodation The opportunities and risks of short-term rental strategies. Why demand is critical for long-term profitability. 7. Building Multiple Income Streams Combining trading, investment, and coaching businesses. Creating diversified sources of recurring income. 8. Wealth, Family, and Lifestyle Using wealth as a tool to create time, experiences, and flexibility. Balancing financial success with family, health, and personal fulfilment. Actionable Takeaways Focus on building assets that generate predictable, recurring income rather than chasing quick wins. Identify genuine market demand before investing in a property or launching a new venture. Treat mistakes as learning opportunities and use them to improve future decision-making. Invest in your financial education to develop a stronger wealth-building mindset. Build multiple income streams to reduce risk and increase financial resilience. Align your wealth-building activities with your personal values, family goals, and desired lifestyle. Review your current investments and ask whether they are driven by demand or by assumptions. Prioritise long-term consistency over short-term excitement when creating wealth. Resources & Next Steps WealthBuilders Membership: Free access to guides, webinars, and community Download our FREE Pensions and Inheritance Tax Guide Devenir Plus - Become more in every area of your life Connect with Us: Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and all major platforms. Next Steps On Your WealthBuilding Journey:   Join the WealthBuilders Facebook Community Schedule a 1:1 call with one of our team Become a member of WealthBuilders If you have been enjoying listening to WealthTalk - Please Leave Us A Review!

Keith welcomes back Rich Dad author Robert Kiyosaki to discuss why debt, inflation, and financial education are critical in today's economy.  Robert challenges traditional advice like "save money and pay off your house," explaining how understanding good debt and owning real assets can accelerate wealth while inflation quietly punishes savers.  They explore how family background and early beliefs shape our money mindset, and why questioning conventional wisdom is essential.  The conversation ultimately stresses that financial education only matters if you take action and intentionally position yourself for turbulent times instead of fearing them. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:00   Keith, welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. This week, the number one selling personal finance author of all time, Robert Kiyosaki of Rich Dad Poor Dad, returns to the show, revealing that he's in debt to the tune of $1.2 billion with a B. Why he believes a depression is coming, and he strongly espouses financial education today on Get Rich Education,    Keith Weinhold  0:29   you know, Mid South Homebuyers, that top Memphis turnkey provider. I learned that a secret weapon behind their explosive growth is more than just you buying their properties, it's an executive coach for nine years now, their CEO, Terry Kerr, and his COO, Pat Nix, have worked privately with a coach who I've now learned from too, and he doesn't market himself online anywhere. After 12 years behind the scenes, that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners. His name is Daniel Thomas Hind. If you're a hard-charging business owner or investor who wants to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, and professionally, you can fill out an application for a free consult. This is private one on one coaching for those willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators, and better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. Now it's your turn. Go to Daniel Thomas hind.com H I N D, that's Daniel Thomas hind.com and sign up before Spots Fill    Keith Weinhold  1:41   Flock Homes helps multifamily owners exit the operator grind, whether it's your sixplex or a 50 unit apartment, through a 721 exchange. This defers your capital gains tax. It's a strategy long used by institutions. Now you can swap tenants and toilets for passive income and zero management. Request your initial valuations. See if your property qualifies at Flock homes.com/gre That's F L O C K homes.com/gre   Corey Coates  2:14   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  2:30   Welcome to GRE from Williamsport, Pennsylvania, to Williams, Arizona, and across 188 nations worldwide. You're inside one of America's longest running and most listened to real estate shows, this is Get Rich Education. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. And with Father's Day this month, it's apropos to talk about Rich Dad. It's been said that the objective of parenting is to turn a liability into an asset. The book Rich Dad Poor Dad has now sold over 40 million copies, and it's been translated into 51 languages. One strong thesis in the book: well, there are a few of them: the rich don't work for money, savers are losers, and your house is not an asset. I think any regular listener here to the GRE podcast is already initiated on this. Savers or losers, because inflation debases your prosperity, and your house is not an asset, because it takes money out of your pocket every month. An asset puts money in your pocket every month instead. And I can see Robert now as he's preparing to take the mic with me here, he's got a blown up visual of his cash flow board game behind him, and then in front of him he's got a few books, including two books that he co-authored with Donald Trump, but this is before Trump was ever a political candidate, so it was before all that, and we're certainly not here to talk politics today. A central theme of the Rich Dad world is that the path for your significant financial betterment is rather than cutting your expenses, increase your income. This is the root action behind the mantra: don't live below your means, grow your means, but see, living below your means is easier. That's the easy thing to do. It's even myopic, say move into a lesser housing situation, or cut out going on vacations. Growing your means takes some education, like how to start a business, or how to own real estate. See, when you deposit money into a bank, all of a sudden that bank has a problem, they owe you interest on it, it's an expense for them. So the bank's job is now to lend your money out to somebody else and make a higher interest rate on it than. Lower interest rate that they're paying you on your deposit. All right. Well, then one direction to focus your education is to start acting like a bank yourself. How do you practically do that? How do you be the bank? Well, just like the bank, you can borrow real estate at a 7% mortgage rate. Now you've got the problem, you've got a monthly mortgage payment you need to make, so you need to beat 7% How are you going to do that? You better get it right. Well, with tax deductions, you might really be paying five to 6% Meanwhile, the real estate that you've carefully identified and invested in with your borrowed capital can earn multiples more without taking high risk, and actually that five to 6% effective cost of capital that you've got is zero, because that monthly payment is all outsourced to your tenants anyway, and what made all this possible for you? Debt made it possible, and now you're acting like the bank, and banks often have the tallest skyscrapers in your city for a reason, because they make money on those spreads all over the place, and now you're doing the same thing. This is an example of growing your means. The bank will hand you 500k to buy a new home or rental property, not for stocks. They won't do that for crypto, not for your 401k not for a business idea that popped into your head at 3am Only real estate, the same institutions, banks that manage your savings and study every asset class, and are very conservative, and have armies and armies of analysts. They will only lend you a half million dollars for one thing: real estate. For a few years, I was a writer for the Rich Dad Advisors blog when that was a thing. Robert and I were most recently together publicly last year when we both served as faculty members on the Terrific Real Estate Guys Investor Summit at Sea in the Caribbean. Let's talk to Robert.    Keith Weinhold  7:18   I'd like to welcome back to the show for his fifth appearance here on the GRE podcast. Well, just the number one selling personal finance author of all time. He wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad in 1997 and has ruled the Rich Dad world ever since. It's a warm get worse education. Welcome back to Robert Kiyosaki.   Robert Kiyosaki  7:38   Thank you, Keith. You know, nobody's more surprised about the success of Rich Dad Poor Dad than me, because it was turned down by every publisher in New York. It was like Simon and Schuster and all these guys, and they said, Why are you turning it down? They said, You don't know what you're talking about. It was consensus about the five editors of different book companies was what you're saying doesn't make sense, that's how strange it was back 1997 and now it's the number one in the world.   Keith Weinhold  8:10   This is often how it is when something strikes someone differently, like the Star Wars movies had difficulty getting traction because it was so unusual, and fortunately, Robert, today the consensus among readers has seen that, oh my gosh, Rich Dad Poor Dad changed my thinking more than anything else. The contrarian thinker,   Robert Kiyosaki  8:34   you know, strike Rich Dad, Poor Dad. My poor dad was academic, you know, PhD, yeah. So he'd be the kind of guy that says your book makes no sense, whereas my rich dad never went to school because his father died when he was 13 and he had to take over the family business. So much of a young person's life is predicated upon their parents or where the family or the culture you come from, and I've been studying more of that, like let's say I was raised in Alabama, I'd have a southern accent but because of the environment it presents it upon you, as the same as money, if a child is born into a poor family, or in my case an academic family, the value systems are all different. My family, and it's still true today. Got to go to school, get a job, and get a pension with the government. That's their whole belief system, and they're so proud of this. Is my brothers and uncles, and all that. They're so proud when their child has what's called a GS, and a government service pension, that's the whole idea on finance, get that pension, job security,   Keith Weinhold  9:49   yeah,   Speaker 1  9:49   nothing wrong with it, nothing wrong with it, but a lot of times we can't hear something because of what's been compressed into us by our culture, our. Family, so my, you know, my poor dad was always, you have to get your PhD, or what? God got a PhD. So my brothers and sisters, their kids are all getting their PhDs. It's fascinating. It's fascinating.   Keith Weinhold  10:14   Yeah, when your poor dad tells you you need to get your PhD, and you're asking for what? Maybe the answer was for him. So our parents, yes, they're often our first teachers.   Speaker 2  10:25   It's just values, very different values. And the more I kind of study it, I don't think I'm a good student of it, but there's this thing called a paradigm matrix, and a paradigm matrix is what is like a cookie cutter, so like father, like son, you know, like mother, like daughter, so much of our lives are transferred by our parents and our schools and things like this, and so that's why Rich Dad Poor Dad, for some people it works, but when it first came out, 1997 as you said, it was strange. I said, you know, the savers were losers, and today everybody knows inflation is going to the roof. I said, your house is not an asset. I got hammered for that one.   Keith Weinhold  11:11   Right.   Speaker 1  11:11   Rich don't work for money. Those are my three rich dad rules. Rich don't work for money, savers are losers, and your house is not an asset. I built Rich Dad Poor Dad around those three rules. I didn't follow my poor dad, those were his guiding lights. You know, you have to have job security, and you have to have a government pension, and my house is my biggest asset. And so you can't hear the person because you already have that paradigm magic, or that cookie cutter inside of you. This is my value system in my family. If I didn't get my PhD, I was stupid. I never got one. But anyway, you know,   Keith Weinhold  11:50   just because you believe something for a long time doesn't make it true,   Speaker 1  11:55   correct? And what's happening? Because I wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad, because I could see this economic times coming, 1971 named Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, and I knew at that time we're going to have hyperinflation, so that it hasn't hit us quite yet. 1971 was august 15. Nixon's taking the dollar off the gold standard, and you watch what's going to happen next few years. We're going to have hyperinflation that we've never seen before, and it's gonna make the poor and middle class poorer. The rich will get richer, but poor and middle class will get poorer. Tragically,   Keith Weinhold  12:30   that is such an appropriate time to bring this up, Robert, because a lot of people are drawing parallels between the 1970s two waves of inflation during that decade, and what's going on today. I mean, there is so much fuel now that could ignite higher inflation. You've got the cumulative effects of the Iran war and the energy shocks and bottled up supply chains. And Robert, I don't know if you've heard it yet, but you and I's mutual friend, Dr. Chris Martinson, yeah, peak prosperity, there, Chris Martinson, he recently said that he would not be surprised to see 18 to 20% annual inflation in the next two to three years. That's exactly what he said.   Speaker 2  13:12   Yeah, but it's good for those who have assets, right? You see what, when things inflate, you know, like chickens and eggs and milk go up, but so do assets go up, most of them, like gold and silver, will go up, but the purchasing of the dollar will come down. Inflation is a tax, that's all it is.   Keith Weinhold  13:33   So much potential for inflation there, and a lot of this really ties in with debt, about how debtors can be enriched inflation. I think about the cantillion effect, meaning that in inflationary times those closest to the money printer win, and that usually tends to be governments, large banks, corporations with easy credit scores, but a lot of people don't realize that we can benefit from that too is everyday investors that use leverage prudent debt,   Speaker 1  14:05   right, and tell you, in effect, is basically what interest rate can you get, and how easy is money for you, and I use debt, I'm 1,000,000,002 in debt, and that scares the crap out of most people, but I use debt to get rich, and most people use debt to get poor, and again, that's family, what your education says. So, a lot has to do with early childhood development, and all that stuff. The more I study it, it really goes back to before a child was like 15. The cookie cutter has been cut.   Keith Weinhold  14:36   Yes, it goes back to not always having to believe everything that you think.   Speaker 2  14:40   We all have access to education. I have my cash flow game here. I teach people how to use debt, and Dave Ramsey says don't use debt. Well, he's a smart man too, Dave. I like him a lot, and most people should listen to Dave Ramsey, but if you're going to use debt, you'd better take some education, so. To go 1,000,000,002 in debt, man, you better know something. People aren't living paycheck to paycheck, they're living credit card to credit card now, and getting wiped out. I hate to laugh, but it's so obvious. You go, because they have no financial education, and that's why my book was turned down by all those academics in New York City, the publishers say, you don't know what you're talking about. How can I say your house is not an asset? How can I say savers are losers? How can I say the rich don't work for money? And that's what Don't Rich Dad Poor Dad on. And now it's been an international best seller, number one in the world for like 25 years.    Keith Weinhold  15:39   Yeah, well, it's so interesting that you bring up Dave Ramsey here, Robert. He often gets his followers to make a debt-free scream when they're debt free, and you know what I think, Robert, for those that scream that they're debt free, what they're doing is they're postponing screaming that they're job free or job optional, they could have been prudently leveraging dollars for profit, instead, like you and I do.   Speaker 2  16:06    Well, let me just say, Dave Ramsey's advice is good for most people. I'm saying, if you're going to learn to use debt, you know, if all you want is a job and a pension, you don't have to study that much. The biggest mistake I think ever made was at 401 k. It's going to wipe out boomer generation. It's going to.. that's the memos. I wrote this book. Here's who stole my pension, and that's when it's going to nail the boomers. They're finished, because their pensions are going to get stolen. They're four 1k IRAs. They're finished, but they do.. they listen. No, they go, they send their kids to school to get their MBA and get a, get a 401 k.   Keith Weinhold  16:46   Well, I kind of think when you have education around debt, you sort of understand this difference between productive debt and what I'll call ego debt. So, can you talk to us more about what kinds of debt make people rich today and what kinds of debt can quietly destroy them.   Speaker 2  17:02   Well, they should read Rich Dad Poor Dad. Really, I'm serious. That's all it is about, really, is I use debt to get rich, and Dave Ramsey's advice is good for those who don't want to study. So, if you're a PhD in microbiology, and you're a doctor, Dave Ramsey's advice is good for you, because you have no financial education, it's not between your right ear and your left ear. So, I had to study debt, that's the difference. It's what we study.   Keith Weinhold  17:29   And for those that are uninitiated on this, what we're talking about here is, if you've got, say, 200k to invest in real estate, and real estate's going to go up 5% a year. Okay, if you pay all cash, you only have a 5% gain on your 200k but if you get an 800k loan and now you invest in a million dollars worth of real estate, you have that entire million dollars going up 5% not just 200k and you have the tenants servicing the 800k in debt for you. This is really the path to wealth through debt, which is counterintuitive.   Speaker 1  18:02   You don't just get into debt. I mean, you really got to understand debt, and real estate doesn't always go up. It's about to crash again, and I like crashes. Don't get me wrong, I love crashes, because a crash in a stock market, bond market, real estate market is something going on sale, so like if Walmart had a sale, every poor person would run in there, but when the real estate market has a sale, all the poor people run away. I like crashes, that's when you get rich, one's coming big time, big time.   Keith Weinhold  18:33   Well, I want to learn more about that, because residential real estate in our lifetimes has only fallen significantly one time, that was in 2008 and circumstances are so different today. Today, you have responsible lending, and you don't have this oversupply that you had in 2008 So, tell us more about a potential real estate crash that's going to interest a lot of people.   Speaker 1  18:53   Well, real estate crashes, because the currency crashes. It's really the problem with the world today, and this is the whole world, is America is now what, the biggest debtor nation in world history.   Keith Weinhold  19:05   Yeah,   Speaker 1  19:05   39 trillion or something like that. And Japan is a bunch of idiots on Japanese, I can say that they save money. Why would you save money when Japan was the biggest money printer of all times? That'd be like somebody you know, sticking water in your gas tank. Why would you go and fill up with water? But that's what the Japanese were doing. They're saving money. It makes no sense. I mean, I just.. I'm just a different person, you know. I just didn't go to school like my family did. I mean, I have a college education and all that, but I studied different things after school. I studied debt, I studied real estate, and that's the big difference. So, I'm 1,000,000,002 in debt. So, in 2008 when the market crashed, you know, I borrowed 30 million bucks and leveled it up with 1,000,000,002 in debt.   Keith Weinhold  19:52   Good timing   Speaker 1  19:53   should not do what I do, but I studied it since 1974 It's debt that's not. Right now today we have oil going up. My college degree is in oil. I'm an oil tanker driver. I drove oil tankers with Standard Oil. I'm making fortunes today as the price of oil goes up, so you know, more Netanyahu and Trump bomb Iran, terrible as it is. I'm getting richer, so you don't have to be poor, but you're poor because that gap between your left ear and your right ear is empty, you know. You've been taught inflation's bad. Well, inflation is good if you're holding oil or gold or silver or some real estate. Anyway, most people have no financial education. That's why I created the cash flow board game, so you can have fun learning how to be rich. If you don't want to learn to be rich, then go to school and get your PhD.   Keith Weinhold  20:47   Sometimes, when people don't understand how real estate debt benefits them, one way I've helped people understand Robert is that, say, you have a loan balance of 112k on a piece of real estate today, that feels really small. It almost feels like something that you can pay off with what you have in your savings account, but if you go back 30 years, when the median home price is 140k 80% debt on that would have been 112k So here, 30 years later, with your 30 year fixed rate loan, you still just have that 112k in debt, while the median home price is over 400k and that's even if you hadn't made a principal payment at all, so it's really a way to visualize how inflation starts shrinking the real weight of our debt over time.   Speaker 1  21:31   My advice is I would study debt, so I take real estate courses, I'm always studying, I'm studying constantly, because the markets are changing so quickly. The biggest problem today started in 1971 when Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. So, we're the biggest detonation in world history. I think we're going into a depression right now. So, depression plus AI coming along is going to wipe out jobs. I'm going to get richer. What are you going to do? So, I'm already planning for the future, the people that get rich can see the future. So, when you say, well, you know, back in 2008 it only crashed for a little while. Then, okay, so what? And history has proven in 1971 Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. Every nation has collapsed. Who did that? The Chinese did it, the Romans did it, the Greeks did it, Germans did it. They print money, and so that's the real issue. It's not debt, but it's also the economic macro problems that keep going into the world. The dollar is coming down, and I'm afraid that we're going into a global depression. I hope I'm wrong, like Grant Cardone, and I have fights all the time about it, you know, because he's a big proponent of that. Real estate always goes up, it doesn't always go up,   Keith Weinhold  22:47   right?   Speaker 1  22:47   It doesn't always go up. The stock market doesn't always go up. The bond market's crashing. Everybody says, "Oh, bonds are safe. The bond market's in the biggest bubble in world history. We're going into a depression. So, what are you going to do about it? I'm afraid America is going to crash because we've taken on Iran, and Iran's a powerful, powerful force out there. I'm not in favor of it, but everybody who's messed with Iran has got kicked. So just note that as this look at history, you can see the future, but you have to be careful in the issue you follow. So, 1971 I was on an aircraft carrier in Vietnam, and my rich dad wrote me a letter. I was a marine helicopter pilot, went down three times. Rich Dad wrote me lessons. Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, watch out, and immediately I started buying gold. So, I started buying gold at $50 an ounce to today is what, four or 5000   Keith Weinhold  23:43   Yeah,   Speaker 1  23:44   the trouble with gold is you pay high taxes on it, constant taxes too. Good luck to learn, Keith. I study constantly.   Keith Weinhold  23:52   You're listening to Get Rich Education. Our guest is Rich Ed Poor Dad author Robert Kiyosaki. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold.    Keith Weinhold  23:58   What if you got your mortgage loans the same place I get mine. You sure can at Ridge Lending Group, NMLS 42056 They provided GRE listeners with more loans than anyone, because Ridge specializes in investment property. They'll help you build a long-term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequal, and even chat directly with President Chaley Ridge, while it's on your mind. Start at Ridge lendinggroup.com that's Ridge lendinggroup.com    Keith Weinhold  24:29   Let me ask you something. If you've worked hard to build wealth, is your money positioned to actually support your goals? A lot of accredited investors leave capital sitting in cash because it feels safe, but inflation and missed income opportunities can quietly erode its value. Freedom Family Investments offers freedom notes for investors seeking structured income backed by real estate. It's a straightforward approach built on real assets, not speculation. In full disclosure, I'm an investor myself. What I like is that their team walks you through how it all works, so you can decide if it aligns with your portfolio and income goals. Every investment carries risk, and nothing is guaranteed, but with a track record of consistent on-time investor payouts, they built real credibility. Go to freedomfamilyinvestments.com to book a clarity call or text family to 66866 that's family 266866 This   Jim Rickards  25:31   is Author Jim Rickards. Listen to Get Rich Education with Keith Weinhold, and don't quit your daydream.   Keith Weinhold  25:47   Welcome back to Get Rich Education. I'm your host, Keith Weinholt. We're talking with the top-selling personal finance author of all time, Robert Kiyosaki.   Speaker 1  25:55   Just study history. History will see this, you'll see the future. So, this is my good friend here, McDonald. You know why he wants you to get rich, and it's this one man, one message.   Keith Weinhold  26:06   Robert's holding up a book now.   Speaker 1  26:08   You've got to get educated on money, but most people won't, so they got a 401 k, and they live debt free. Good advice. Will it protect them? No, it won't protect them from a, you know, if you lose your job, AI takes it away, or is a massive crash, but we've never been in this much debt before to you. Black generation is screwed, boomers and boomers are screwed, because we're the first generation with a four 1k that was 1974 1974 also Kissinger went to Saudi Arabia to sign the dollar up back by oil, and today my buddy here, Trump is bombing the crap out of Iran. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but the price of oil is going through the roof now. Everybody's complaining about it because of inflation, so chicken and eggs go up in price, you know. Diesel delivers chicken and eggs all over the world. I'm getting richer because I own oil wells, you see. You don't have to be poor, but you better question what they put between your left ear and your right ear. What did Mommy and Daddy tell you? Go to school, get a job, get a job with a government service. My daughter's a GS, she's got a master's from Washington State University losers,   Keith Weinhold  27:24   this untethering of the dollar from gold in 1971 that meant that there is no sovereign currency in the world today that's still tied to gold, allowing for more money printing and enriching over time debtors like you and I, but Robert, we think about how debtors are profiting, and you spoke earlier about how oftentimes your parents put all of these values inside you. How do you emotionally tolerate having a lot of debt yourself? You talked about having $1.2 billion in debt. How do you emotionally deal with that?   Speaker 1  28:00   I study, I take courses. I'm constantly in seminars studying debt. I don't study a 401 ks or bonds, that's for losers. But this is the biggest point, Keith. You got to find out. My rich had always said to me, says there's a billion ways to financial heaven. So, there's what, 8 billion people on planet earth, and 1 billion of the eight may make it to financial heaven, but there's 7 billion to financial hell, and the difference is what's between your left ear and your right ear, and that's why you may choose what you learn carefully, cash flow game, study it, have fun, practice, play, learn, but if you don't want to learn, then follow Dave Ramsey's advice. That's much better. It's better for you, really. I'm serious. And get your PhD and get a 401 k and get wiped out when you lose your job. It's up to you.   Keith Weinhold  28:54   Yeah, I mean, the debt-free mindset probably is better for most people, but I think you shouldn't aspire to want to be like most people. Most people are overweight, and they have a busted relationship, and they don't have enough money at the end of the month. So we're really not aspiring to be mediocre here, and that can mean taking on prudent debt. You wrote something in a book one time, I don't think it was Rich Dad Poor Dad, it was one of your later books. This is so simple, but I found it to be so profound and life-changing for me. And that is simply being wealthy is a choice   Speaker 1  29:28   that doesn't, what you want, it's your choice, but you better know what your choices are. What did Mommy and Daddy say to you? But also, were they doing in front of you?   Keith Weinhold  29:39   Right,   Speaker 1  29:40   were they cleaning for job security or were they buying coil wells? Like, I own Bitcoin, but they'll recommend it now. I study it. I don't really understand it that well. I have 5049 Bitcoin, not much, but as inflation goes up, my Bitcoin goes up. Also, have in theory. I'm old. I don't understand tech that well, but I buy it to learn it, to practice, to study it. Am I an expert at Bitcoin? No. So I just keep studying, that's all I'm saying. I have a choice how to put between this year and that year. That's your choice today.   Keith Weinhold  30:18   Well, that's really interesting, Robert, because some people say that you should only invest in something that you understand well, others say that you're only going to understand something well if you invest a little in it first and have a stake. Well, is there any last thought that you have, Robert, as we wind up, anything at all that a listener should know today?   Speaker 1  30:39   No, I mean, I just said it, that's it. Choose what you put between your left brain and right ear, and what do you do? What do you do in your spare time? Like studying, you can ask the people around me. I'm constantly studying, you know, because I like to win. I'm very concerned, Keith. We're going into the biggest depression in history. So, what happens when you lose your job and you can't put food on the table, that's gonna create another problem. So, I'm a big pessimist, but I'm ready for it. I have a lot of guns, so the, I call it the 5g's Okay, you have to have gold, food, I mean ground, gasoline, and guns, that's preparing for the future, the 5g will be gold, gas, ground, food, guns.   Keith Weinhold  31:27   Well, Robert, you gave us a lot to think about there, including some actionable things. It's been great having you back on the show.   Speaker 1  31:32   Okay. Well, thank you. Keep up the good work.   Keith Weinhold  31:40   I believe Robert feels that a calming economic depression would be linked to the longer term calamity about the dollar being de-pegged from gold for about 55 years now. His 1.2 billion in debt is largely, if not completely, good debt. You can learn more about Robert and the Rich Dad world@richdad.com and he and I talked more off air. As much as he stresses financial education, he emphasizes taking action after you've learned; otherwise, you really haven't gained much of anything. But the rat race is so busy that some people don't have time to care about this stuff. In fact, the difference between financial education and financial courage is action taking. That's the difference. Now, in my view, it seems that some feel like financial betterment means cutting your expenses so much that you reduce your standard of living even over the long term, and doing that for the long term, you might do some of that in the short term, earlier in your investing career, because you need some capital formation, but to me, before long, financial betterment should give you the ability to make your life better. I mean, really don't buy the boat or RV just because it's a depreciating asset. Well, you don't want to do that wastefully if you can't afford it, but if you can learn how to afford it, consider borrowing for it, investing it at a higher interest rate than the RV loan, and profiting while you enjoy the RV, some people don't even think something like that is possible. Well, that's the sort of thing financial education can do. Genuine financial betterment means that you can take the trip, it means that you can buy the boat, because what's worse, owning a depreciating asset or living a depreciating life. Big thanks to Robert Kiyosaki.    Keith Weinhold  33:47   Today, we've got a lot of great upcoming shows here on the Get Rich Education podcast. Next week, The Mad Scientist of Multifamily, Neil Bower, will be here. It's going to be a charged conversation on the state and the future of the residential real estate market. Also, I've been compiling my top 12 dirty dozen due diligence questions that are going to help you avoid mistakes when you buy a piece of income property, like for example, How do you be sure that a build to rent community isn't overbuilt with supply, and why you should always get a property inspection, even on a new construction property that's coming in future weeks, and if you're a new listener and still learning about how to prudently use debt to build wealth, you're in luck. Just eight weeks ago, on episode 600 it's an episode where it's just me talking to you, called Debt is the American dream. Be sure to check out that show until next week. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. In In the Spirit of Rich Dad, don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 3  34:52   Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business. Professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.   Keith Weinhold  35:18   The preceding program was brought to you by Your Home for Wealth Building, Get Rich education.com  

The first business Joe Wechsler bought had $280k of SDE. Seven years later, he runs a fund with $50m of buying power.Register for the webinar: Franchising for the ETA Buyer: Resales, Roll-Ups, and Real Deals - Thu, June 4 - https://bit.ly/4vnGP5uTopics in Joe's interview:Background in management consultingInspired by Rich Dad Poor Dad to own assetsJoining an early cohort of the Acquisition LabSearching is more fun with a partnerFirst deal died 10 days before closingDiscovering employees had never been paid overtimeTotal office staff turnover in first 4 monthsAcquiring 4 diverse businessesLaunching a $25M equity fund with 5 partnersIt's all about the peopleReferences and how to contact Joe:LinkedInBlueline VenturesWho by Geoff Smart and Randy StreetRich Dad, Poor Dad by Richard T. KiyosakiGet a free review of your books & financial ops from System Six (a $500 value):Book a call with Tim or hello@systemsix.com and mention Acquiring MindsDownload the New CEO's Guide to Human Resources from Aspen HR:From this page or contact jenny@aspenhr.comWork with an SBA loan team focused exclusively on helping entrepreneurs buy businesses:Pioneer Capital AdvisoryConnect with Acquiring Minds:See past + future interviews on the YouTube channelConnect with host Will Smith on LinkedInFollow Will on TwitterEdited by Anton Rohozov and produced by Pam Cameron

What if the biggest mistake investors make is focusing on how to buy a deal instead of how to exit it? In this episode, Frank Herman shares how he and his partners scaled to over $100M in real estate assets, completed multiple full-cycle projects, and built a unique investment strategy around student housing and condo conversions. Frank explains how his journey from truck driver to real estate entrepreneur began with Rich Dad Poor Dad, how an unexpected capital-raising opportunity led to a $5 million partnership, and why patience, transparency, and investor trust have become the foundation of his business. He breaks down his approach to nurturing investor relationships, identifying opportunities with multiple exit strategies, and focusing on specialized partnerships rather than trying to do everything himself. For investors and entrepreneurs looking to build long-term wealth, raise capital effectively, and create sustainable growth, this conversation delivers practical lessons from more than two decades in real estate.

Invest in family first.Ray Cordano built wealth through real estate, entrepreneurship, and a contrarian approach to life — but his biggest investment has always been his time with his family.In this episode of the Fatherhood, Finance and Patriotism series, Ray shares how reading Rich Dad Poor Dad shaped his path, why he built businesses to create freedom, and how that freedom allowed him to become a full-time dad. He talks about building a real estate portfolio, flipping homes in San Francisco, raising entrepreneurial kids, coaching sports, and why he believes the next generation has massive opportunity ahead.Ray also opens up about how yoga changed his life, what he learned from his parents, why he chose to let his kids make mistakes, and how AI could reshape work, family life, and entrepreneurship in the years ahead.This conversation is about more than money. It's about freedom, family, responsibility, and what Ray calls the greatest gift America gives us: the opportunity to choose how we live.Chapters:0:00 Preview: Invest in Family First0:30 Meet Ray Cordano2:29 How Yoga Saved Ray's Life4:17 Building Freedom Through Real Estate5:30 Becoming a Full-Time Dad9:12 Coaching Life Lessons Through Sports13:17 Why San Francisco Real Estate Is Hot Again17:47 Investing Time in Family20:39 How AI Could Change Work and Family Life28:14 Freedom, America and Patriotism______________________________________________________________If this episode inspires you to be part of the movement, and you believe, like me, that entrepreneurs are the answer to our future, message me so we can join forces to support building truly great companies in our region. -Subscribe to my channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCom_​... -  Mark Haney is a serial entrepreneur that has experience growing companies worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He is currently the CEO and founder of HaneyBiz -  Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarkhaney​ Facebook: www.facebook.com/themarkhaney LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markehaney​ Website: http://haneybiz.com​ Audio Boom: https://audioboom.com/channels/5005273​  Twitter: http://twitter.com/themarkhaney-This video includes personal knowledge, experiences, and opinions about Angel Investing by seasoned angel investors.  This content is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as legal, tax, investment, or financial advice.  Nothing in this video constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, or endorsement.#thebackyardadvantage #themarkhaneyshow #entrepreneur #PowerOfWith #SacramentoEntrepreneur #Sacramento#SacramentoSmallBusiness #SmallBusiness #GrowthFactory #Investor#podcast

Register here to attend the live virtual event "Why Investors Are Targeting Oklahoma Real Estate in 2026" on Thursday, May 27th at 8:00 PM Eastern Time. Keith explains how rent payments are starting to factor into credit scores, boosting accountability for tenants and strengthening landlords' position.  He introduces the "GRE Duck" to show how a plain long-term rental can quietly build wealth through several profit centers beyond visible cash flow. Keith also shares why he expects a new era of heightened inflation and how owning real assets with long-term fixed-rate debt can help investors stay ahead of it. Finally, Keith is joined by a GRE Investment Coach, Naresh Vissa, to highlight Oklahoma as an under-the-radar, business-friendly market that many investors see as a promising "next place" for cash-flowing rentals. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. The American consumer is in real trouble today, and persistent inflation is poised to make it worse. How should real estate investors adjust their strategy? Learn the difference between delinquency, default, and foreclosure. Why making an early mortgage payoff is almost always ill-advised, then we explore an investment market that's poised for potential today on Get Rich Education.    Keith Weinhold  0:32   You know, Mid South Homebuyers, that top Memphis turnkey provider, I learned that a secret weapon behind their explosive growth is more than just you buying their properties. It's an executive coach for nine years now. Their CEO, Terry Kerr, and his COO, Pat Nix, have worked privately with a coach who I've now learned from too, and he doesn't market himself online anywhere. After 12 years behind the scenes, that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners. His name is Daniel Thomas Hind. If you're a hard-charging business owner or investor who wants to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, and professionally, you can fill out an application for a free consult. This is private one on one coaching for those willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators, and better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. Now it's your turn. 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At the same time, most people seem to think cash flow is something that you catch in a stream. Hey, well, Who's in trouble out there amidst persistent and rising inflation? Well, you know the answer, it's just another reflection of the K-shaped economy and the hollowing out of the middle class. Now we can look at how many Americans are missing their mortgage payments. The mortgage delinquency rate is historically between one and 2% That just means that's the proportion of borrowers that get seriously behind on their mortgage payments. That's the normal range over the long run. Today's figure is pretty low at 1.1% so on the low end of that historic one to 2% range. So homeowners are in good shape, but credit card and automobile loan delinquencies are now deeply concerning, and a lot of times these people can be your rent paying tenant for credit card delinquency. Back in 2022 the rate was 8% Now 13% of credit card users are seriously behind on their payments. How about automobile delinquency? Back in 2022 it was 3.6% Now it's 5.6% and then there's student loans. The proportion of seriously delinquent student loans is 10.3% That's the highest since 2020 So the average borrower entering student loan default is now fully 40 years old. Before the pandemic, it was just 36 and a half. Now, there's surprisingly few hard statistics on the exact average age at which Americans fully pay off student loans, but the best available evidence from a platform. Called the Education Data Initiative, it suggests that the typical borrower who successfully repays on a standard timeline finishes somewhere in their early to mid 40s, and a substantial share of borrowers still carry student debt into their 50s and even 60s, so the US student loan crisis is intensifying. How about your tenant in that rent payment? About one in eight renters are behind on their rent payments per the CFPB. Almost every tenant catches up. Some live a paycheck to paycheck timing game. The payment that renters are most likely to miss is for credit cards, and, like I just put the numbers to, they are more than twice as likely to miss a credit card payment than they are an automobile payment. To most tenants, losing the car would mean losing the job, so they'll make the car payment before the credit card payment, and eviction is catastrophic, so they don't want to face that. They'll make that rent payment before a credit card payment too. Alarmingly, half of American credit card users carry balances from month to month, fully half the average interest they're paying is 21 to 22% I mean, sheesh, if Luboo is in a collection of wildly overpriced Stanley tumblers that all look big enough, waste of money. Now, some debtors can tap home equity to pay their consumer debt, but a lot of them aren't homeowners, all right. So, what does this all mean for residential income property owners? Well, since 1980 rent increases have compounded at 3.9% annually, that's the number, so almost 4% rent growth since about the time that Ronald Reagan became president, but rent growth is currently lagging behind this, and I expect that rent hikes will continue to be pretty paltry for the next couple years. Inflation is stressing tenants' consumer purchases too much for them to deal with steep rent hikes. The median household income of a US renter is $55,000 Overall, it's $84,000 All right, so to be clear, that 84k household income is not for homeowners, it's 84k overall for every American household. The 55k number is just for renters. What all this means is that this coming higher wave of inflation from the Iran war, where you're now poised to potentially see the highest rate of inflation of your entire life occur in the next couple years is that when you're looking at adding rental property on your pro forma, you can see how the numbers would be with those historic 3.9% rent increases each year, but it's wiser to run your numbers with no rent increase at all, because higher inflation on all these consumer products means it's less likely that they can handle a rent hike   Keith Weinhold  8:25   In the mortgage world. What's the difference between delinquency, default, and foreclosure, anyway? Because some people use a couple of those terms interchangeably, but there is a difference. The timeline is that once you're 30 days late, that is delinquency, and this condition occurs the moment that a single payment is missed. And at this early stage, your bank still hopes that this is temporary, because the bank actually doesn't want to take back your property. They're not in the business to do that. They want you to be able to keep making your payments in general, because if a borrower keeps missing payments and a bank has to take possession of the property, well, then that bank has to pay legal fees and court costs, and even property taxes if they end up taking back the property. Yeah, the bank pays all of that if they have to take it all right, so that's 30 days. What about when a borrower gets to 90 days late on payments, where we're trending closer to the bank having to take back the property? Well, 90 days, that's the point at which we're in mortgage default. When a homeowner's 90 days late on payments, the lender kind of says to themselves that bank is saying, hey, this is serious, and they file what's called a notice of default with both the homeowner and the courts at the 120 day mark. This is pre foreclosure, right? So, after about four months or more of missed pay. Payments and state timelines vary. Texas is famously Formula One fast, really lender friendly, then, but timelines can drag on for one to three years in a bunch of northeastern states, Florida, Illinois and Ohio, so they're more borrower protective, and during Covid, this was overridden, and even fast states became slow. Beyond 120 days of non-payment, this is foreclosure, the legal seizure process. This is when the home sells that auction to the highest bidder. That's sort of like Sotheby's for distressed drywall, but if no bidder raises their paddle, well, then the property returns to the bank and becomes R E O. You've probably heard this term before, that stands for real estate owned, R E O. It also kind of means bank owned, and bank owned is the phrase that kind of makes more sense. That's what REO is, all right. Yes, this is when the bank becomes the home's reluctant landlord, and if the occupant has not left, the bank can formally file for eviction. Banks don't like being in this position, and they might sell the home cheaply. Why would they do that? Because, again, banks are not in the business of owning property, and they don't want to pay those holding costs, besides paying legal fees and court costs, and the banks now having to pay property tax because they do temporarily own that foreclosed upon property. Now they're also usually paying for maintenance, repairs, and insurance, a non-paying borrower like this can typically cost a lender 1000s per month. So this is the difference between delinquency, default, and foreclosure. But, like I said, we are at a time when mortgage delinquency rates are historically low. Instead, it's consumer debtors that are more likely to default today on things like their credit cards and their automobile loans. The takeaway for real estate investors here is that in today's inflationary times, renters are increasingly cost-burdened, rent increases are historically slow. That's sort of the bad news. And then the upside, the good news is it also means that tenants must delay home ownership and keep on renting from you, because as they struggle to pay these rising expenses, it's also harder and harder for them to form a down payment and go buy their own place, that's the real lesson with the parts of the economy where you see default trends today.    Keith Weinhold  12:52   Now, if you're an income property owner, like I am, you probably have mortgages with a bunch of different banks, lenders like I do. You've probably noticed more than once that various banks and mortgage servicers, a lot of times, they feature these early payoff tools, enticing you to pay your mortgage off ahead of time, before it goes its full 30 year term, or whatever your full loan duration is. I mean, a lot of banks love it when you try to pay off your own early. It's often good for them and bad for you. And there are a few reasons that banks do this. They reduce their default risk if a bank convinces you, the borrower, to aggressively pay down your principal. It also builds equity faster, and you become less likely to walk away, so it's safer for the bank during downturns. Say there's a borrower with a 300k property and a 50k loan balance, meaning it's mostly paid off. Oh, that's far less risky to the bank than one with a 300k property and a 200k loan balance, meaning that you have less equity in it. So banks value stability. Another reason that some banks want to roll out the red carpet to try to get you to pay off your mortgage early is because banks recycle capital. They don't simply hold every mortgage for 30 years. A lot of loans are sold to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, or they're bundled into mortgage-backed securities, or they're serviced for fees. So your originating bank, when they first made that loan with you, oh, they've already earned their origination fees and servicing income and cross-selling opportunities, so getting principal back from you sooner allows them to reissue new loans sooner, and see rising interest rate environments like we've been in lately that changes the incentives for banks too, because if current mortgage rates are higher than your old rate a. Wow, then banks really love getting your old low rate loan paid off. Just say, for example, you have a 3% mortgage that you got five years ago, and new mortgages today are 7% Oh, if you pay off or refinance the old loan, oh well, now the bank can redeploy that money into higher yielding loans. Now they can lend it out at today's 7% that is really valuable to them. So encouraging your payoff, that is often just some consumer service positioning and marketing. You'll see messaging like, hey, make extra payments, or hey, you can own your home faster if you make extra principal pay downs, that's sort of marketing psychology. Because emotionally, a lot of consumers, they're not thinking big, they still emotionally love debt freedom, because a lot of them don't even consider true financial freedom is something that's in the realm of possibility for them, so banks provide tools because customers oftentimes want them and like them. Regulators actually like this position too. It's positioned as responsible lending optics, and financially healthy borrowers are deemed to be safer customers, but a bank sure does not want delinquency or foreclosure from a wealth building perspective. Productive low-cost debt benefits you, the borrower, enormously.    Keith Weinhold  16:34   And on previous episodes, I've talked extensively about how making extra principal pay downs on your mortgage is a bad idea, and that's whether it's rental property or your own home, and you know, I'll bring a new example to this for you. It might feel good to pay off your mortgage faster. Your bank probably likes that, as I just explained, but feeling good doesn't build your wealth. Let's just take a 400k mortgage at a 6% mortgage rate. We'll keep it simple. With a 30 year loan, your payment is about 2400 monthly, so you'll pay 864k over the life of the loan. Well, instead, with a 15 year loan, your payment's 3376 and you'll pay just 608k over the life of the loan. So, by paying extra principal with the 15 year, you save about 255k in interest over the life of the loan, and that's it. Most people stop right there, and they think, oh well, then the 15 year paying down principal faster than that has got to be the smarter way, look, I can point to this on paper and show you, no, but with that extra about $1,000 per month of mortgage payment that you made by going with the 15 year, if instead you would have just invested that at an 8% return, you would have about 1.1 million more dollars in your pocket. Some people say they sleep better because their house is paid off, but I would rather sleep knowing that my money is growing faster than my debt is costing me. I only used 8% as a return, too. If your dollars were instead invested in a different vehicle, say in buy and hold income property. We know that it can be multiples higher than 8% and all the while, if we keep our own money and avoid making an early pay down, our cash is also going to remain more liquid than if we sunk it into the house, because houses make terrible banks. It is indeed rather myopic to make extra principal payments on a mortgage loan in most cases. In fact, somewhat related to this, coming up on a future show, I'm going to tell you about the biggest financial expense you will ever have in your life, it is not taxes, it's not housing, it's not interest charges, it's not inflation, it's not paying for children, and it's not health care. Most people have never heard of it. The biggest financial expense that you'll ever have in your life. I'll talk about that coming up in a future episode.    Keith Weinhold  19:23   Is today's American housing market a buyer's market or a seller's market? In fact, it's somewhat of a discussion that you can have. There's not a clear cut answer, because more so than usual, it depends on which region of the nation you're looking at. As we know, six months of available supply is a balanced market nationally. There's only 4.4 months of existing housing supply, but almost twice that much new housing supply. National median home values are only up about 1.1% year over year. And what's the future of the investment market? Good, I'm going to discuss this and more with a guest later today. I would like to seriously thank you for your listenership. GRE is a platform largely built on long form trust, podcast listeners, newsletters, coaching calls, and referrals, releasing a show 52 weeks a year for between 11 and 12 years now, and the show is delivered every week from me, a real human flesh and blood host with a pulse and sometimes a cowlick in my hair, really human stuff going on here. I say this because robot podcast hosts are becoming more common, though I still wouldn't say that robot hosts are widespread. Amazon's Alexa Plus now produces AI-generated podcasts featuring chats between two robot co-hosts, but here on GRE it's always been human delivered with no plans to change that promise, and speaking of human connection, I learned that a number of successful guests that you've heard here on the show, they've gotten counsel from a rather special executive coach that's really developed some of these people that you've heard on the show. This coach has helped people show up as the best version of themselves and build them into better leaders, better operators, and better men and women, just like you, I know there's a gap between who you are and who you could be. When someone points out that gap to you, that can be a motivator alone, and when you learn the steps to close that gap, you really start to fulfill your potential. It often takes a trained eye from the outside to get you on the right trajectory and build the sort of person that compounds and builds you closer to your optimal self and people of enormous success have a coach or mentor behind them. Steve Jobs did, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Taylor Swift does the accountability piece alone is often enough to elevate your performance. I just learned about this coach this year. This man has been the behind the scenes key to success for a number of not just real estate related pros and GRE guests, but other people too. And interestingly, he hasn't marketed himself online anywhere. Well, I got curious, I learned more about him and kind of tracked him down, and he and I had a great lunch in California together not long ago, and I have since learned from him after 12 years behind the scenes. Well, it was quite a successful lunch, because that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners. His name is Daniel Thomas Hind, the number of people with life-changing testimonials from working with him is pretty remarkable. So, if you're a hard-charging business owner or investor, and you want to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, or professionally, you can fill out an application for a free consult. It's private one on one coaching, if you're willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve pretty uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators, better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. If it sounds interesting to you, now it can be your turn. You might at least look into it, since it is close personal one on one coaching. He can only help a limited number of people. So, complete an application before spots fill. You can go to Daniel Thomas hind.com H I N D is how you spell his last name, that's Daniel Thomas hind.com More next, I'm Keith Weinhold. 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He has his MBA, but perhaps more importantly, he's an active real estate investor himself, and he spends his days helping GRE listeners cut through the noise and actually make smart real estate investing decisions, and this means helping you figure things out, like what market fits your goals, whether cash flow appreciation or even showing a tax law should be your priority, and how to think about financing and what properties, the exact properties pass the smell test, and maybe most importantly, helping investors like you avoid expensive mistakes. And yes, the coaching is free to GRE listeners at GRE Investment coach.com And basically, if the real estate world feels like Costco on a Saturday afternoon, he helps you find the free samples, find the exit, and get the good deals without getting run over by a shopping cart. It's time for you to share with the audience. Naresh Vissa.   Naresh Vissa  26:53   Thanks a lot, Keith, for having me back on the show. Always a pleasure to connect with our loyal GRE listeners and followers,   Keith Weinhold  27:01   a lot of loyal listeners, some that have listened to all 600 plus episodes, starting from back in 2014 and Naresh we continue to see income property builders provide incentives that we haven't seen in years. Tell us about it.   Naresh Vissa  27:19   We're at a key point in this real estate cycle, Keith, regarding incentives, because we had GRE, and I think investors will tell you this, not just through GRE, but maybe in their hometowns and their local markets, that they're seeing incentives that they've never seen before, and a major reason for this is understanding why these incentives are there in the first place. If we go back five years to 2021 we didn't really see any incentives in 2021 outside of maybe like one year of free property management, which isn't the most enticing incentive out there, but today we are seeing more incentives than we've seen, at least in my career as a real estate investor, which is not very long, it's only about 10 years, but in my career as a real estate investor, in my career as a real estate investment coach, and a major reason for that is because providers, we call them providers, we can call them local market builders, or specialists, or flippers, wholesalers - we'll just call them sellers - they want to offload inventory, they want to sell their homes as quickly as possible. And why is that? Because we're not in a 2021 environment anymore, where a property gets listed and within three hours the first offer comes in, and within 24 hours multiple offers are in, and within two days of property is sold. We're not in that environment anymore. There are a variety of factors about why we're not in that environment. Part of it is economy related, part of it we talked at length about Doge, and the government contracts that have been cut. I mean, we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars that are worth of dollars that are no longer pumping into the US economy, and the many jobs associated with that. We're also talking about the artificial intelligence, so the tech industries for the last few years, have not necessarily downsized, but changed their job functions, or removed, just eliminated job functions entirely, and this has affected markets, not the entire United States, but it's certainly affected some markets that we operate in, Florida, certainly in Texas, you can look at Austin, Texas, for example, and see the impact that the artificial intelligence and AI has had in the sector there. There are just all sorts of reasons, and so this is why builders, they're not building as much. So there were five years ago what are called spec homes. And pre construction homes, pre construction homes are homes that are to be developed and they get buyers ahead of time and they don't build until they get a buyer and then they build and they complete the property. Pre construction homes are not being done anymore as compared to custom home. A custom home is when you have a buyer and the building has started, the buyer has paid a good portion of the building, and the property is complete. But in pre-construction, they haven't even broken ground, they haven't even gotten permits, and a lot of investors have been scared away from that, saying, Why get a home like that when I can just buy a spec home or a custom home. A spec home is a home where the builder just builds a property and they hope that a buyer is going to come after it's built, and the problem with that, as we're seeing today, this is why builders are trying to offload their inventory. It's because so many of these spec homes were built because these builders thought, oh, 2021 2022 those are such amazing years, but now in 2026 they built these homes, and there aren't buyers throughout the building process, they weren't able to get buyers, and there still aren't buyers available, so what do the builders want to do, they want to offer really, really enticing incentives, because it's very highly likely they took out some type of construction loan, and they took out some other type of loan, and they've got all this debt on the property. Builders are not landlords, builders build, they want to build something and sell it off. They do not want to hold on to it and let something just sit there, that builders make money by selling their property, so all these different reasons are why we're seeing incentives like we've never seen before. And to give you an example, instead of one year of property management, we're seeing two years of property management. Yeah, instead of closing cost credits, we're seeing builders and sellers in general actually pay money to buyers, so they close on a property. Let's say they, instead of a closing cost credit, you close on a property, they'll literally just wire you or overnight you a check for x amount of dollars, and this is not like $1,000 $2,000 We've had some investors get up to $50,000 mailed to them after closing on a property, so I think this is a really, really good time for investors to find deals. You brought up Costco earlier, I'm like the Costco finder, it's a really, really good time to find deals, because through networks like GRE we have access globally, not just mainland 48 states, not just United States, not just globally, whether it's teak timber parcels in South America or in Central America, or it's duplexes, quads, single family homes in mainland United States, we have access to these deals, to these incentives, whereas your average person, they're just reading some headline saying, oh, real estate is a bad investment right now, and home values are supposed to crash, and there's so many homes available for sale, and there's going to be this big crash, and and inflation is very high, which means interest rates are really high. That's like the general consensus, but that's what the mainstream news media is telling, and that's what's creating a consensus.   Keith Weinhold  33:29   That's what clicks and fear. Yes,   Naresh Vissa  33:31   that's where I say that there are GRE is here to find those diamonds in a rough to find those incentives to find those good deals to find those markets, just like even in the stock market, the stock market can be at all-time highs, but you can still find those diamonds in the rough that are good, high-quality companies. Maybe they're undervalued. There's always going to be some type of diamond in the rough. I don't think we've ever gone through a period in our lifetimes where it was like, oh, everything is going so well, and there's nothing to invest in. There's nothing we should just do nothing with our money. I don't think there's ever been a point. There's always in any asset class in any industry. So that's why I say right now I'm seeing incentives. That's how I began this conversation. I'm seeing incentives that I've never seen before, and I'm excited to share them with all of our GRE followers.   Keith Weinhold  34:24   Yes, there's never perfection in a market like a panacea, where everything is tuned in just right, and it's really not a buyer's market nationally, in a sense. Now it sort of feels that way, because in 2021 to 2022 we had such a frenzy and such a run up in such a seller's market that things have come somewhat back more into balance. We still have substantially less than six months of supply on a national basis, but yes, to your point, some people are really cashing in on. These incentives, and that's created a pickup in activity recently that you've seen with investors.   Naresh Vissa  35:07   I have absolutely seen a pickup in activity, and there could be.. I don't want to speak in absolutes.. there could be a variety of reasons for this. Number one is the stock market has consistently reached all-time highs for the past few weeks or so, and many people, they liquidated some of their portfolio, they liquidated some of those stocks, and said, all right, it's time to get into real estate. Another reason is, yes, you do see these headlines that are doom and gloom, next big crash, and there are some markets in Florida, for example, in Texas, for example, in the DMV area, DC metro area, Maryland, Virginia, and even in some parts of California, you do see a stagnation in home values, maybe even a decline in home values in some of these areas, but I bring them up because some areas where investors own are still thriving and doing really well, and many of those investors who we work with at GRE, they opted to 1031 and say, you know what, I had this property, it appreciated by 60% since I bought it, 60% 50% whatever it might be, and I want to cash out. Well, I don't want to necessarily cash out, but I want to sell in 1031 into an undervalued market, or a market where the homes have declined, or maybe it's an up and coming market. For those who don't know, 1031 is special tax favored strategy from the tax code that allows real estate investors to sell a property and to essentially replace it with a like kind property, and there's tax break, you don't have to pay a capital gains tax or anything on it. There's nothing like that with stocks. So, if you sell a stock, for example, you can't get a more expensive stock with that capital gain and avoid paying the capital gains tax. Unfortunately, you can't do that for stocks, but for real estate, you can. So, we've had several investors do that, where they, 1031 they said this market, it's taken off, maybe it could go down, who knows, but I'm selling at the peak, and I want to buy somewhere else, so that's what we help people do, that's what I help people do, I help them find those deals, those incentives, those markets that could be up and coming, or maybe that declined, and that's why still it makes a lot of sense to be on the lookout for those deals.   Keith Weinhold  37:47   Now, one such place is potentially the Oklahoma market. Last week here on the show, I had your co-host for an upcoming event with me, Richard, whom is an Oklahoma City provider, and we were sort of a phrase that I use, Naresh, is that next place, that next place, Oklahoma City, where the prices haven't run up, it's business friendly, and you do have these affordable prices, and you have landlord-friendly laws, potentially that next place where your dollar goes further, and as the Oklahoma City Thunder go deep in the playoffs, you know the nice thing about Oklahoma is that you can still buy real estate there without needing an NBA contract to afford it. In fact, we were spotlighting their $145,000 new build detached single family rental. Now it is tiny, and it comes with both LVP flooring and granite. I mean, it's something that sort of sounds like science fiction in Metro New York City and coastal California. I don't know if paying 145k would even give you permission to look at a house, but that's one opportunity that we've been talking about here. Niresh,   Naresh Vissa  39:03   let me talk a bit about Oklahoma, because this is a market that we haven't covered much. In fact, we, I would say, have never covered it in writing. It's not heavily featured throughout GRE's history. Yeah, it's not prominently featured on our website. This is a newer market, and I brought up the term up and coming, so I brought up the 1031 people are 1031 into up and coming markets. Oklahoma is an up and coming market. It's a very landlord friendly state, it's a very tax friendly state. The property taxes are significantly lower in Oklahoma, for example, compared to a Texas or a Florida, which are two very popular in real estate investment states. Investors go after Oklahoma is not quite as high, their home insurance isn't anywhere as high as a Florida, for example, but the best part. It is because of all these different factors. Oklahoma has a lot of industry, and we'll go into it this Thursday on our webinar. Go to GRE webinars.com to register, but Oklahoma, the tourism is getting up and running. The energy industry still has a very important part to play in this world's energy consumption, Oklahoma, it's got huge academic areas. You have Oklahoma University, you have Oklahoma State, you have a plethora of Tulsa has a very strong university there. You have medical schools there. Oklahoma is an underrated state. People don't think about Oklahoma when they think about what are the greatest states in America, or what state that I want to move to, but Oklahoma, I think, is that next up-and-coming state, because there's actually more stuff now. I brought up tourism, you brought up the Oklahoma City Thunder, they never had really any professional sports teams, what, 20 years ago,   Keith Weinhold  41:02   right?   Naresh Vissa  41:03   And the Thunder now are the best NBA teams. They have been the best, and I'm rooting for them. So this is all good. That's the Oklahoma City area, where the Thunder play, but, like I said, I brought up other markets, like Tulsa, where we have inventory, and there are a few others that we're going to cover, but mostly the best properties that we're going to cover on Thursday are in the Oklahoma City area, places within 45 minutes, 50 minutes from Oklahoma City. So, as you're watching the webinar and following the Oklahoma City Thunder, that should only kind of enhance as the team does better and as Oklahoma gets more publicity, and is on TV more, and you see all those nice stills on TV, and those shots, and ESPNs covering the city, that's all very good for real estate, and for publicity, and this is like an intangible reason to invest in Oklahoma that actually makes a very big difference. So, overall, Oklahoma is what I would call, like I said earlier, up and coming, the home values, because it's up and coming. You can't get $145,000 new construction property anywhere in the United States right now. When I say anywhere, there's a little bit of hyperbole there. If you look to some boondock towns and cities, yeah, you'll find them, but are they really good renters markets? Are they good appreciating markets? Well, in fact, the most of the state of Oklahoma is now, and definitely that Oklahoma City area is. So, I'm excited about this online special event we're having this Thursday, because, like I said, this is a new market, just like the team, I mean, so many fans are just new to Oklahoma, you know, like Oklahoma, like what's in Oklahoma. Well, attend our special event this Thursday, GRE webinars.com and we're going to get down to the nitty gritty of it. I think this is out of all the up and coming markets I've covered over the last 10 years, I think this is the best one, because the problems I had with some of these up and coming markets, like Memphis, for example, crime.. it's why are they up and coming? Why are the home value solo? Well, you know, crime was a major issue. There's no comparison between an Oklahoma City or a Tulsa and Memphis, for example, or a Baltimore. There's no comparison when it comes to esthetics, when it comes to newness, niceness, crime, homicides, no comparison. So, to me, this is a no-brainer. And I think investors should be really excited about this.   Keith Weinhold  43:32   There is anticipation for Thursday's live event, which you can enjoy from the comfort of your own home. You'll learn about real estate investing, you'll get to chat with Naresh and the co-host, Richard, that provides there. Ask any questions that you want to have answered in real time. The event name is why investors are targeting Oklahoma real estate this year. It is this Thursday night, the 20-eighth, 8pm Eastern, 5pm Pacific. Sign up is open@grewebinars.com It's free. Naresh, we all look forward to seeing you Thursday night. It was great having you here.   Naresh Vissa  44:06   Thanks a lot, Keith. Looking forward to seeing everybody.   Keith Weinhold  44:15   Yes, the Oklahoma City Thunder are the reigning NBA champions, and they've gone deep into playoffs again this season, but what you'll find more interesting about Oklahoma City's real estate investment market is that it's business friendly, still affordable population growth, job growth. There are still good deals. You don't need to have a venture capital exit just to put some rental property in your portfolio, and while those $145,000 properties are small detached cottages with LVP and granite, there are other single family rental and duplex styles, all new build, everything here is new construction, the. Like a nice looking 565k duplex in Edmond, Oklahoma. I'm looking at a photo of it right now. Edmund abuts right up against Oklahoma City. Between 2010 and 2020 it had whopping population growth of 16% That is not random. People vote with their moving trucks. Learn more about Oklahoma's growth in energy, aerospace, aviation, logistics, and tech, along with Oklahoma City's downtown revitalization. This creates the rent-paying tenants with stable incomes that we need at the event, the provider is even offering two years of free property management, and they handle all the tenant placement for you. Save your spot for Thursday now@grewebinars.com Our team will see you then. Next week, we'll have Rich Dad Poor Dad author Robert Kiyosaki back here on the show with us. We'll see you Thursday. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream.   Unknown Speaker  46:08   Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. 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If you want to scale your real estate or coaching business from $5 million to over $10 million, organic reach alone isn't going to cut it. In this special episode, Brent Daniels sits in the hot seat at a live Coaching Inc. event, interviewed by Storyteller Jet, to drop massive knowledge bombs on scaling through paid traffic and content creation.Plus, if you are stuck at $5K to $10K a month, Brent gives you the undeniable blueprint to hit six figures: get over your fear of other people's opinions, stop being selfish with your knowledge, and start livestreaming. If you want to leave a legacy of teaching and impact, this episode is your masterclass. Be a part of the TTP training program now.---------Show notes:(0:00) Beginning of today's episode(1:24) Brent's origin story and how Rich Dad Poor Dad inspired his entrepreneurial journey(2:20) Evolving from wholesaling and coaching to running a high-level Google Ads agency(4:29) Breaking down the "Alex Hormozi" content multiplication strategy(5:38) Why Meta rewards fresh creatives and why you need 30 to 40 new ads every month(7:03) Using a Video Sales Letter (VSL) to pre-qualify your inbound leads(9:25) How enforcing a minimum ad spend ($5,000/mo) protects your sales team(13:38) Biggest mistake entrepreneurs make when outsourcing their Google Ads to consultants(18:16) Stuck at $5K to $10K a month? Why you need to start livestreaming 10 hours a week(20:00) Overcoming the fear of judgment and accents to build a massive audience online(23:08) Using Zoom and a live Google Doc to control discovery calls(25:27) Why slowing down a prospect by taking live notes helps you gauge if they are a good fit(26:36) How Tom Kroll helps entrepreneurs find their true "why" and avoid burnout(29:51) Why overcoming your fear of judgment is the key to leaving a lasting legacy----------Resources:Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert KiyosakiAlex HormoziMyron GoldenTom KrollJoe McCallJeremy HaynesEcamm LiveStreamYardHubSpot@realbrentdaniels on InstagramTo speak with Brent or one of our other expert coaches call (281) 835-4201 or schedule your free discovery call here to learn about our mentorship programs and become part of the TribeGo to Wholesalingincgroup.com to become part of one of the fastest growing Facebook communities in the Wholesaling space. Get all of your burning Wholesaling questions answered, gain access to JV partnerships, and connect with other "success minded" Rhinos in the community.It's 100% free to join. The opportunities in this community  are endless, what are you waiting for?

On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene shares a solo episode breaking down his 10 favorite books for real estate investors. Drawing from decades of experience as an investor and broker, along with insights gained through hosting the podcast, Jonathan explains how each book helped shape the way he thinks about money, investing, leverage, business building, and long-term wealth creation. Jonathan walks through a wide range of books covering topics like mindset, passive investing, syndications, wholesaling, long-distance investing, and financial psychology. Rather than focusing only on tactics, he highlights the importance of patience, discipline, and developing a long-term perspective when building a real estate business.  The episode also explores how different books can impact investors at different stages of their journey. Jonathan reflects on how books like Rich Dad Poor Dad, The Wealthy Gardener, and The Hands-Off Investor influenced his own investing philosophy and helped him better understand topics like leverage, operator quality, and asset ownership.  Throughout the episode, Jonathan encourages listeners to continually invest in education and build communities around learning. From creating book clubs to discussing strategies with other investors, he emphasizes that reading and ongoing learning are essential tools for long-term success in real estate investing.  In this episode, you will hear: • Jonathan's top book recommendations for real estate investors at every stage  • Why mindset and long-term thinking are critical for building wealth  • How books like Rich Dad Poor Dad and The Hands-Off Investor shaped his investing approach  • What investors should understand about leverage, syndications, and passive investing  • Why reading and ongoing education can create a long-term advantage in real estate  Follow and Review If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover the show and supports its continued growth. Supporting Resources Connect with Jonathan: Amazon Affiliate Book List - https://a.co/d/0cEtkDWN  Podcast - www.zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com Brokerage - www.streamlined.properties  YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos Instagram - www.instagram.com/zenrealestateinvesting Instagram-  www.instagram.com/trustgreene Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties Instagram - www.instagream.com/zenupstate Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/trustgreene Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting Jonathan's Hub Site - www.trustgreene.com Email - Jonathan@trustgreene.com This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.

On a cramped Ryanair flight to Cyprus, Igor watched a woman type a 50-page report by hand on an ancient laptop. In this episode, that observation opens up into something much bigger. A story about an Air Force Academy that showed Igor his own future before he lived it, every version of himself making the same money, complaining about the same things, and waiting for the same 13th paycheck. And the moment Rich Dad Poor Dad made him realize that working hard on the wrong path just gets you nowhere faster.

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 2997: Kathleen Coxwell emphasizes that the most meaningful inheritance isn't wealth, but the financial values that shape how it's used. By teaching principles like earning, investing, credit, and purposeful work, you can equip your heirs with the mindset to build lasting success. These lessons offer a roadmap for raising financially capable, thoughtful individuals who can sustain and grow any legacy. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://www.boldin.com/retirement/passing-on-financial-values-to-your-heirs/ Quotes to ponder: "The best inheritance is the set of financial values that teach respect for money." “Enough money so that they would feel they could do anything, but not so much that they could do nothing.” "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day; teach a man to fish, and he'll eat for a lifetime." Episode references: Rich Dad Poor Dad: https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Dad-Poor-Teach-Middle/dp/1612680194 Ikigai: The Japanese Secret to a Long and Happy Life: https://www.amazon.com/Ikigai-Japanese-Secret-Long-Happy/dp/0143130722 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Next Level Healing, Dr. Tara Perry sits down with New York Times bestselling author, CPA, entrepreneur, and financial literacy advocate Sharon Lechter, co-author of Rich Dad Poor Dad and long-time partner of both the Rich Dad Company and the Napoleon Hill Foundation. Sharon's Origin Story: Money at the Dinner TableSharon grew up lower middle class in a family of entrepreneurs, living between her father's used car lot and her mother's beauty shop, and helping manage rental properties from the age of 10. [4:50] [5:00]Her family also owned orange groves; her father taught her that the oranges were cashflow while the land itself would grow in value—land that later became part of SeaWorld in Orlando. [5:10]Money, assets, and investing were regular dinner-table topics, shaping her understanding of wealth early on. [5:10] [5:24]She became the first in her family to attend college, was the only woman in her accounting classes, and one of the first women in public accounting in the late 1970s, where she learned how companies succeed and fail. [5:24] [5:51]From Talking Books to Rich Dad Poor DadSharon helped build a global company around the first talking children's books with sound strips, licensing with Disney, Warner Brothers, Sesame Street, and Marvel Comics to get kids excited about reading. [6:17] [6:35]After selling that company and moving to Arizona, her oldest son went to college, was lured into credit card offers with “free pizza” and “free t-shirts,” and ended up in serious debt—an experience that took him seven years to repair and ignited Sharon's lifelong commitment to financial literacy. [6:50] [7:12] [7:36]In December 1992, she dedicated the rest of her career to financial education, initially working with school systems. [7:56]Meeting Robert Kiyosaki & Building a Global BrandSharon's husband, an intellectual property attorney, introduced her to Robert Kiyosaki, who had created the board game CASHFLOW. [8:11] [8:33]At the first beta test, Sharon was the only player to get out of the “rat race,” and she loved how the game aligned with her teachings on investing, assets, and the difference between active and passive income. [8:33] [8:46]Drawing on her experience commercializing products, she helped Robert bring the game to market. When he wanted to price it at $200 in 1996, she suggested writing a brochure to explain his philosophy and justify the investment. [9:09] [9:21]That “brochure” became Rich Dad Poor Dad, which they co-wrote and never expected to become a standalone phenomenon; their company was originally branded Cashflow Technologies. [9:38] [9:54]Over a 10-year partnership, Sharon served as CEO, co-authored 15 books, created multiple games and infomercial products, and launched the Rich Dad Advisors series, helping build what became the world's largest personal finance brand in 110 countries and 51 languages. [9:54] [10:09] [10:28]Leaving Rich Dad & New Doors OpeningAfter a decade, Robert wanted to move into franchising, which Sharon felt was not a good model for franchisees; she chose to leave, emphasizing that sometimes you must close one door for others to open. [10:28] [10:41]Shortly after, she was appointed by President George W. Bush to the first President's Advisory Council on Financial Literacy, later serving under President Obama as well—an opportunity she believes she would not have had if she'd stayed at Rich Dad. [1:29] [10:52] [11:08]In March 2008, the Napoleon Hill Foundation invited her to help reinvigorate Hill's teachings, leading her into the world's largest personal development brand. [11:08]

Click Here for the Show Notes This episode dives into the journey of a real estate investor turned financial strategist who transformed a powerful concept into a practical system for investors. Inspired early on by Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki, the guest built a thriving real estate career—only to discover that high deal volume doesn't always mean real profit. After experiencing the “real estate rat race” firsthand, he adopted and adapted the principles from Profit First into a framework specifically for real estate investors. By flipping the traditional formula from “sales minus expenses equals profit” to “sales minus profit equals expenses,” he introduces a mindset and system that prioritizes paying yourself first, building true cash profitability, and creating clarity through structured money management. Whether active or passive, investors can break free from financial chaos, gain control over their cash flow, and finally align their business with the life they set out to build. Start simple—open one separate “profit” account today and begin setting aside even just 1% of your income. Then grab a copy of Profit First for Real Estate Investing to implement the full system, and take the first real step toward building a consistently profitable portfolio. -------------------------------- Throwback Thursday Episode (The episode originally took place in the year 2023) This episode is part of our Throwback Series and may include references to older content such as web classes, events, promotions, or links that are no longer active or available. While the conversation and insights still hold value, please note that some information may be outdated. -------------------------------- If you missed our last episode, be sure to listen to TBT: When are Mortgage Rates Too High? Download your FREE copy of:  The Ultimate Guide to Passive Real Estate Investing. See our available Turnkey Cash-Flow Rental Properties. Our team of Investment Counselors has much more inventory available than what you see on our website.  Contact us today for more deals.

After having her second daughter, high school math teacher Christle Stezskal had a choice to make—keep working for little pay and give up the time she had with her young children, or find another way to help provide for them. Her husband had just finished the personal finance classic, Rich Dad Poor Dad, and knew rentals were the right move—but Christle was only working with a teacher's salary.  She couldn't buy $400,000 houses, let alone $300,000 or $200,000 houses. But $50K - $100K rental properties—that she could do. The duo set off, finding an out-of-state investing market where the numbers would work. They purchased their first deal, and then…lockdowns, and a tenant moving out—terrible timing.  That wouldn't stop Christle. Now, just six years later, she has a real estate portfolio of 19 cash-flowing rentals. She's gotten creative, buying off-market properties, sending direct mail, and even bidding at courthouse auctions to get rentals at the right price. Because of her hustle, she's quit her job, now gets to spend time with her girls, and provides her family the financial future they've always dreamed of—and she didn't need deep pockets to do it.  In This Episode We Cover: Why small, cheap rental properties can make you wealthy (even in 2026!) How to pick the right out-of-state investing market when you have no experience Buying rentals at auction, and the deal Christle was able to land for just $21,000 The best way to find discounted rental properties? One method Christle swears by Scared to buy your first rental? Christle was, too, and here's what she says you should do And So Much More! Links from the Show Join BiggerPockets for FREE Join us at the BiggerPockets Conference October 2-4 in Orlando. Buy tickets Let Us Know What You Thought of the Show! Sign Up for the BiggerPockets Real Estate Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area BiggerPockets Real Estate 1252 - I Had 4 Kids, No Cash, and a Traveling Spouse: Now I've Got 4 Rentals w/Joanna Caldera Rich Dad Poor Dad Connect with Christle Connect with Henry Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1264. Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@biggerpockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices