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Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed for espionage in 1953. Whether or not they were both guilty remains unclear, though most historians believe that at least Ethel was innocent. Learn all about this historical stain in today's episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joel and Lynn Rosenberg dive into a compelling discussion about China’s role in biblical prophecy and the end times. Drawing from Revelation 16, Joel unpacks what it means for China to be a “prototype of the tyrannical Antichrist society” and explores the idea that China could lead the coalition known as the “kings of the East” in the prophetic battle of Armageddon. The conversation covers the signs of the last days, China’s persecution of Christians, and the miraculous growth of Christianity within its borders despite overwhelming oppression. The Rosenbergs also highlight the geopolitical challenges posed by China and encourage listeners to pray for the persecuted church, for America’s leaders, and for wisdom in facing these end-times realities. If you’ve ever wondered how today’s global headlines fit into biblical prophecy—or what the future might hold for China and the world—this is an episode you don’t want to miss. (00:02) "Revelation 16: The Sixth Angel"(03:24) "Stay Awake: Rapture Nearing"(07:06) Literal Interpretation of Revelation(12:45) "Isaiah 49: Global Divine Message"(13:45) "Messiah's Global Salvation Mission"(17:23) Pray for China and Global Leaders Learn more about The Joshua Fund: JoshuaFund.comMake a tax-deductible donation: Donate | The Joshua FundStock Media provided by DimmySad / Pond5 Verse of the Day: Revelation chapter 16:12. The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings of the East Prayer: Praying that God will give the persecuted church in China the boldness to continue preaching God's Word.Pray for the hundreds of millions of Chinese to have the courage to continue renouncing communism and abandoning atheism. Pray that American leaders will have the courage to stand against this regime.Related Episodes:The Russian-Iranian-Turkish Alliance of Ezekiel 38 & 39 (The War of Gog & Magog) #18Is The War of Gog & Magog Coming? #40Is The War of Gog & Magog Coming? Part 2 #47China's Complex Relationships with the US and Israel #276 Links for Reference https://www.inspirationtravel.com/tjahttps://www.joshuafund.com/learn/latest-news/join-us-on-our-alaska-cruise Donate a generous monthly gift to The Joshua Fund to bless Israel and Her Neighbors now and for the long haul. Become an Epicenter Ally today! Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

In this episode, the girls tell the tale of the Rosenbergs- the couple who were executed for espionage after being convicted for spying for the soviet union. Fun! We also have an intensive chat about One Direction, and pitch a new season idea.love you always bye

In this episode of Suburban Underground, Steve picked a set of gold songs and a set of silver songs.  Here is the rundown on the artists played this week: The Clash, Research Turtles, The Warning, Echo & The Bunnymen, The Pleasure, Rilo Kiley, The Donnas, The Rosenbergs, Razorlight, Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians, Echobelly, The Cure, Possum Dixon, Jimmie's Chicken Shack, Depeche Mode. AI-free since 2016! On the Air on Bedford 105.1 FM Radio      *** 5pm Friday ***      *** 10am Sunday ***      *** 8pm Monday *** Stream live at http://209.95.50.189:8178/stream Stream on-demand most recent episodes at https://wbnh1051.podbean.com/category/suburban-underground/ And available on demand on your favorite podcast app! Facebook: SuburbanUndergroundRadio   ***    Instagram: SuburbanUnderground   ***    #newwave #altrock #alternativerock #punkrock #indierock

Today on the Brett Winterble Show, Brett contrasted the prior failures in intelligence and security. Intelligence and secrecy, cornerstones of national security, have been repeatedly compromised throughout history, with dire consequences. From 1789 onward, a recurring pattern of miscalculations and security breaches has shaped global events. The attack on Pearl Harbor, a stark example of intelligence failure under President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, resulted from a catastrophic inability to interpret and act upon accumulating warning signs of Japanese aggression. This devastating event underscored the fragility of perceived security. The Truman era witnessed another critical breach: the Soviet Union's acquisition of atomic secrets. This espionage, facilitated by individuals like the Rosenbergs, dramatically altered the balance of power during the Cold War. President Eisenhower, in his farewell address, presciently warned of the growing influence of the military-industrial complex, a concern that reflected the potential for intelligence to be swayed by vested interests .More recently, the Trump administration's handling of classified information, including the Goldberg revelations, raised significant concerns about the safeguarding of sensitive data. These incidents exposed vulnerabilities in the system and highlighted the ongoing challenge of maintaining secrecy in an increasingly interconnected world. The current Houthi crisis further illustrates the complexities of contemporary intelligence gathering, demanding the capacity to anticipate and counter rapidly evolving threats in a volatile geopolitical landscape. These historical episodes, spanning centuries and administrations, underscore the enduring tension between the necessity for secrecy and the imperative to accurately assess and respond to emerging threats. The delicate balance between these competing demands remains a constant challenge for intelligence agencies worldwide. Listen here for all of this and more on The Brett Winterble Show! For more from Brett Winterble check out his YouTube channel.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

March 29, 1951. The world is waiting for the jury's verdict. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg have been accused of spying for the Soviet Union, conspiring to send atomic secrets to America's enemy in the Cold War. Ethel and Julius are tried in court together, and after the jury finds both Rosenbergs guilty, they receive the same punishment – the death penalty. But while they were treated the same, these two individuals have very different stories. Today, who was Ethel Rosenberg, the only woman executed for espionage in U.S. history? And why is her guilt still a topic of debate today? Special thanks to Anne Sebba, author of Ethel Rosenberg: An American Tragedy; Michael and Robert Meeropol, the sons of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg; and Steven Usdin, journalist and author of Engineering Communism: How Two Americans Spied for Stalin and Founded the Soviet Silicon Valley. ** This episode originally aired March 28, 2022. To stay updated: historythisweekpodcast.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here we are with musician, songwriter, and activist David Fagin who has spent his career challenging the industry. As frontman of The Rosenbergs, he pioneered artist-friendly deals and teamed up with Robert Fripp to fight for master ownership. He's testified on Capitol Hill, composed for major networks, and co-wrote Boston Strong, the Boston Marathon theme song.A former HuffPost columnist, he's never shied away from controversy, from taking on corporate exploitation to creating viral videos with millions of views. Leading The Counterfeiters and The Wankers, he mixes music, satire, and pranks—including fooling the internet with a fake Oasis reunion tour. We will get to hear about his unique experience and the advice he shares for artists.

This week, Steve included a set of "Hollywood" songs as well as a bunch of other great tunes.  Artists this week include: Joywave, U2, The Dead 60s, Big Audio Dynamite, Jet, Suede, Menswear, Garland Jeffreys, Sons Of Elvis, Band-Maid with The Warning, Positive Noise, Pavement, Telephantom, The Rosenbergs, La Luz, Franz Ferdinand. AI-free since 2016! On the Air on Bedford 105.1 FM Radio      *** 5pm Friday ***      *** 10am Sunday ***      *** 8pm Monday *** Stream live at http://209.95.50.189:8178/stream Stream on-demand most recent episodes at https://wbnh1051.podbean.com/category/suburban-underground/ And available on demand on your favorite podcast app! Facebook: SuburbanUndergroundRadio   ***    Instagram: SuburbanUnderground   ***    #newwave #altrock #alternativerock #punkrock #indierock

On April 5, 1951, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were sentenced to death under the Espionage Act of 1917. The couple was accused of spying for the Soviet Union and providing classified information about nuclear weapons, radar, sonar, and jet propulsion engines. The trial, which was presided over by Judge Irving Robert Kaufman, captured international attention. Narrated by Rebecca Naomi Jones and featuring Martin J. Siegel, author of Judgment and Mercy: The Turbulent Life and Times of the Judge Who Condemned the Rosenbergs.   Image: Cover of Brochure produced by the National Committee to Secure Justice for Morton Sobell in the Rosenberg Case, circa 1954. From the Committee to Free Morton Sobell Collection at AJHS, I-356.   The Wreckage is part of the American Jewish Education Program, generously supported by Sid and Ruth Lapidus.

Welcome to Inside the Epicenter. In this heart-wrenching episode of Inside the Epicenter, we delve into the tragic stories emerging from Israel after a series of hostage situations that have gripped the nation. Hosts Joel and Lynn Rosenberg provide a sobering account of the devastating realities faced by families torn apart and highlight the profound impact these events have had on the collective psyche of Israel. With context from their own experiences living in the epicenter, the Rosenbergs offer insight into the challenges of processing such trauma and the hope that persists through faith and community support. Join us as we explore the harrowing details of hostage releases and the enduring resilience of the human spirit amidst unimaginable grief and loss. (00:02) Parental Guidance Advised for Podcast(07:58) Longing for Podcasts in College(11:09) Hamas Hostage Release Spectacle(18:02) Jerusalem Hostage Crisis: Faces Everywhere(24:49) Tragic Murder of Two Hostage Boys(27:18) Israel-Gaza: Intelligence and War Prediction(37:25) Israelis Mourn Together Amid Cold Rain(40:37) Israeli Anger Over Recent Attacks(44:00) No Support for Terrorist Release(51:36) Ceasefire & Ongoing Tensions Overview(57:11) "Praying for Israel's Healing" Learn more about The Joshua Fund: JoshuaFund.comMake a tax-deductible donation: Donate | The Joshua FundStock Media provided by DimmySad / Pond5 Verse of the Day: Isaiah chapter 40:1 - Comfort, oh, comfort my people, says your God. Speak kindly to Jerusalem and call out to her that her warfare has ended, that her iniquity has been removed, that she has received of the Lord's hand double for all her sins. Prayer Pray that all the hostages will be released and that Hamas will be vanquished. Related Episodes:Trusting God in Challenging Times #261Finding Hope in Dark Times, Insights from Isaiah 19 #258Finding Comfort in God: Exploring Isaiah 40 with Joel Rosenberg and Tommy Fretwell #247I was a hostage, and my husband is still in Gaza #245 Links For Reference https://www.inspirationtravel.com/tjahttps://www.joshuafund.com/learn/latest-news/join-us-on-our-alaska-cruise Donate a generous monthly gift to The Joshua Fund to bless Israel and Her Neighbors now and for the long haul. Become an Epicenter Ally today! Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

This podcast episode is in Swedish.Välkommen till Kalam Suedi, Kalam Podcast på svenska! I samarbete med tidningen Flamman. Följ länken för att lyssna på hela avsnittet. Det går att låsa upp avsnittet gratis genom att uppge en mailadress! https://www.flamman.se/podd/kalam-suedi/1-vad-ar-israel-med-goran-rosenberg/– Israel begår folkmord, säger Kalam Suedis första gäst, Göran Rosenberg. I dagens avsnitt försöker vi svara på VAD staten Israel är för något, och vad det har varit. För att bättre kunna svara på vart landet är på väg. Vi får även höra om Göran Rosenbergs resor i Israel och Palestina sedan Hamas krigsbrott den 7 oktober, 2023.Vi diskuterar även Tyskland och övriga Europas fortsatt problematiska förhållande till judar. För att stödja Kalam Podcasts arbete kan ni gå med i vår Patreon. Gå till www.patreon.com/kalampodcast.com och prenumerera för bara 35 kronor i månaden. Då får ni tillgång till massa spännande bonusmaterial. Följ oss på Instagram, @kalampodcast

In this episode of Inside the Epicenter, Joel and Lynn Rosenberg navigate an eventful week in US-Israel relations, marked by historic meetings and significant developments in the Middle East, with President Trump hosting Prime Minister Netanyahu as the first foreign leader in the White House during his second term, new ideas surface, including a controversial plan for US oversight of Gaza. As 18 hostages have been released, reunions evoke a range of emotions across Israel, prompting deep reflections on their personal stories. Lynn offers insights into the individual narratives of the hostages, underscoring the harrowing circumstances they endured. Together, the Rosenbergs discuss the political intricacies of Trump's bold proposals and Netanyahu's warm reception of US plans, all while stressing the need for continued prayer and support. Tune in to explore the complexities, human stories, and unfolding geopolitical dynamics at the heart of the epicenter. (00:03) Hostage Releases and Context in Washington(07:33) Hostage Handoffs: Chaos to Safety(10:19) "Surviving Captivity: Courage & Uncertainty"(16:11) "Podcast Overview: Siegel, Trump, Netanyahu"(18:43) "Hostage Aviva's Unique Story"(21:14) "Keith's Journey: Recovery and Loss"(27:47) Alaska Cruise for Spiritual Renewal(32:05) "Exploring Prophetic Insights at Sea"(35:32) Proposed Relocation for Gaza Residents(37:25) "US Plans Gaza Reconstruction"(41:35) Real Estate Challenges in Gaza(45:46) Arab Reluctance on Palestinian Refugees Learn more about The Joshua Fund: JoshuaFund.comMake a tax-deductible donation: Donate | The Joshua FundStock Media provided by DimmySad / Pond5 Verse of the Day: Matthew 11:28-30 - Come to me all weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Prayer Pray for leaders in Israel and the Middle East that they'll have wisdom and that we can live peaceable lives.Pray for the people of this epicenter in The Middle East to cry out to God. Related Episodes:Insights from Joel Goldberg and Amir Tibon Amid Political Turmoil in Israel #256Breaking Down the Hostage Deal Between Israel and Hamas #25I was a hostage, and my husband is still in Gaza #245The PROPHETIC IMPACT of October 7 Attacks on Israel #243 Links For Reference https://www.inspirationtravel.com/tjahttps://www.joshuafund.com/learn/latest-news/join-us-on-our-alaska-cruise Donate a generous monthly gift to The Joshua Fund to bless Israel and Her Neighbors now and for the long haul. Become an Epicenter Ally today! Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

In 1953, Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were executed after being convicted as Soviet spies in a sensational Cold War espionage case. Now, a recently declassified document is seen as the strongest evidence yet of Ethel's innocence. As Biden leaves office, he's being asked to exonerate her and right a historic wrong. John Yang speaks with the Rosenbergs' younger son, Robert Meeropol, for more. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

You're Listening to Parallax Views https://parallaxviews.podbean.com/ Support the Show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/parallaxviews On this edition of Parallax Views, is a recently declassified NSA memo the smoking gun document that proves Ethel Rosenberg was wrongfully convicted and executed for the charge of being a Soviet spy? That's the contention of her sons Michael and Robert Meeropol. Michael Meeropol joins the program to take us through exactly what this declassified memo says and what it means for the conventional understanding of the Julius and Ethel Rosenberg espionage case. For those unfamiliar, on June 19th, 1953, during the era of Joe McCarthy and the Red Scare, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed by electric chair at New York's Sing Sing Prison after being convicted of spying on behalf of the Soviet Union. They became the first Americans executed on espionage charges during a peacetime period in the United States. Since then, the Rosenberg's sons, the aforementioned Michael and Robert Meeropol, have sought to find out the truth about their parents and whether they were wrongfully convicted and executed. In the intervening years the question of Julius Rosenberg's guilt has been answered. Simply put, he did engage in espionage for the Soviet Union. The case of Ethel Rosenberg, however, has not been so clear cut. Now, the previously mentioned NSA memo that was recently declassified appears to be powerful evidence in favor of her innocence. In addition to discussing what is in this memo, Michael and I will also discuss his experiences growing up under the long shadow of his parents' espionage charges, the collaboration between liberals and right-wing anti-communists during the Red Scare, Michael's review of a biography about Judge Irving R. Kaufman (the judge who sentenced the Rosenbergs), and much, much more.

In this episode of Crime Time, Inc., we unravel the complexities of the Julius and Ethel Rosenberg case. Accused of espionage and executed in the 1950s, their story is steeped in atomic secrets, Cold War tensions, and lingering questions of justice. We explore FBI records, historical accounts, and personal letters to paint a vivid picture of the trial. From the FBI's discovery of leaked atomic bomb secrets in 1949 to the courtroom drama that became a global event, we delve into the conflicting evidence and ethical dilemmas surrounding the case. Join us as we dissect the prosecution and defense arguments, the global reaction, and recent revelations that continue to fuel the debate on whether the Rosenbergs were guilty masterminds or victims of Cold War paranoia.00:00 Introduction to the Rosenberg Case00:34 Backdrop of the Cold War00:54 The FBI Investigation02:47 The Trial Begins03:22 The Human Element04:22 Global Reactions05:58 Evidence and Arguments09:20 Ethical Considerations11:11 Recent Revelations13:05 Conclusion and Reflection Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this Wednesday edition of Sid & Friends in the Morning, Gabriel and Danielle Rosenberg join Sid in-studio all morning long, as the Rosenberg clan conduct their third annual Dsypraxia DCD America Radiothon here on 77 WABC Radio. We'll be raising money all morning for those living with Dyspraxia to raise awareness for this lifelong hidden disability. Despite being almost as common as ADHD and more common than Autism, the terms “Dyspraxia” and “DCD” are not well known. The Rosenbergs are here to change that. Priscila Tamplain, Michelle Esquenazi, Curtis Sliwa, Peter King, Kristen Terdik, Scott LoBaido & Corey Zelnik join Sid on this special radiothon installment of Sid & Friends in the Morning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ethel Rosenberg (1915-1953) was an American citizen executed for alleged Soviet espionage during the Cold War. She and her husband, Julius, were convicted of couriering top-secret information about American technology, including nuclear weapon designs, to the Soviets. Their case was hotly debated and the source of intense controversy. Many believed that they were innocent victims of Cold War paranoia. Recently, decoded information was released pointing to Ethel's innocence. For Further Reading:  Declassified documents shed light on Ethel Rosenberg's involvement in her husband's Cold War spy case The Rosenbergs' Last Letter Execution of the Rosenbergs – archive, 1953 This month we're talking about women who found themselves at the center of controversy -- whether deserved or not. History classes can get a bad rap, and sometimes for good reason. When we were students, we couldn't help wondering... where were all the ladies at? Why were so many incredible stories missing from the typical curriculum? Enter, Womanica. On this Wonder Media Network podcast we explore the lives of inspiring women in history you may not know about, but definitely should. Every weekday, listeners explore the trials, tragedies, and triumphs of groundbreaking women throughout history who have dramatically shaped the world around us. In each 5 minute episode, we'll dive into the story behind one woman listeners may or may not know–but definitely should. These diverse women from across space and time are grouped into easily accessible and engaging monthly themes like Educators, Villains, Indigenous Storytellers, Activists, and many more. Womanica is hosted by WMN co-founder and award-winning journalist Jenny Kaplan. The bite-sized episodes pack painstakingly researched content into fun, entertaining, and addictive daily adventures. Womanica was created by Liz Kaplan and Jenny Kaplan, executive produced by Jenny Kaplan, and produced by Grace Lynch, Maddy Foley, Brittany Martinez, Edie Allard, Lindsey Kratochwill, Adesuwa Agbonile, Carmen Borca-Carrillo, Taylor Williamson, Sara Schleede, Paloma Moreno Jimenez, Luci Jones, Abbey Delk, Hannah Bottum, Lauren Willams, Adrien Behn, Alyia Yates Grau, and Vanessa Handy. Special thanks to Shira Atkins. Original theme music composed by Miles Moran. Follow Wonder Media Network: Website Instagram Twitter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this electrifying episode of Connecting the Dots, I sat down with Jon Jeter—two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, former Washington Post bureau chief, and Knight Fellowship recipient—who pulled no punches as we unraveled the hidden dynamics of America's class war. Drawing from his explosive book Class War in America, Jeter revealed how the elite have masterfully weaponized race to keep the working class fractured and powerless, ensuring they stay on top. He delves into the ways education is rigged to widen inequality, while elite interests tighten their grip on public policy. With gripping personal stories and razor-sharp historical insight, Jeter paints a vivid picture of the struggle between race and class in America and leaves us with a tantalizing vision of a united working-class revolution on the horizon. This is an episode that will shake your understanding of power—and inspire you to see the potential for change.   Find me and the show on social media. Click the following links or search @DrWilmerLeon on X/Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Patreon and YouTube!   Hey everyone, Dr. Wilmer here! If you've been enjoying my deep dives into the real stories behind the headlines and appreciate the balanced perspective I bring, I'd love your support on my Patreon channel. Your contribution helps me keep "Connecting the Dots" alive, revealing the truth behind the news. Join our community, and together, let's keep uncovering the hidden truths and making sense of the world. Thank you for being a part of this journey!   Wilmer Leon (00:00:00): I'm going to quote my guest here. We've been watching for a while now via various social media platforms and mainstream news outlets, the genocide of the Palestinian people, what do the images of a broad swath of Americans, whites and blacks, Latinos, Arabs and Asians, Jews and Catholics and Muslims, and Buddhists shedding their tribal identities and laying it all out on the line to do battle with the aristocrats who are financing the occupation. Slaughter and siege mean to my guest. Let's find out Announcer (00:00:40): Connecting the dots with Dr. Wilmer Leon, where the analysis of politics, culture, and history Wilmer Leon (00:00:46): Converge. Welcome to the Connecting the Dots podcast with Dr. Wilmer Leon, and I am Wilmer Leon. Here's the point. We have a tendency to view current events as though they happen in a vacuum, failing to understand the broader historical context in which many of these events take place. During each episode, my guests and I have probing, provocative, and in-depth discussions that connect the dots between these events and the broader historic context in which they occur, thus enabling you to better understand and analyze the events that impact the global village in which we live. On today's episode, the issue before us is again, quoting my guest. When the 99% come together to fight for one another rather than against each other is the revolution. Na, my guest is a former foreign correspondent for the Washington Post. His work can be found on Patreon as well as Black Republic Media, and his new book is entitled Class War in America. How The Elite Divide the Nation by asking, are you a worker or are you white? Phenomenal, phenomenal work. John Jeter is my guest, as always, my brother. Welcome back to the show. Jon Jeter (00:02:07): It's a pleasure to be here. Wilmer. Wilmer Leon (00:02:10): So class war in America, how the elites divide the nation by asking, are you a worker or are you white? You open the book with two quotes. One is from the late George Jackson, settle Your Quarrels, come together, understand the reality of our situation. Understand that fascism is already here, that people are already dying, who could be saved that generations more will live. Poor butchered half lives. If you fail to act, do what must be done. Discover your humanity and love your revolution. Why that quote? And then we'll get to the second one. Why that quote, John? Jon Jeter (00:02:50): That quote, really that very succinct quote by the revolutionary, the assassinated revolutionary. George Jackson really explains in probably a hundred words, but it takes me 450 pages to explain, which is that the ruling class, the oligarchs, we call 'em what you want. Somewhere around the Haymarket massacre of 1886, I believe they figured out that the way that the few can defeat the many is to divide the many to pit it against itself, the working class against itself. And so since then, they have a embark on a strategy of pitting the working class against itself largely along, mostly along racial or tribal lines, mostly white versus black. And it has enveloped, the ruling class has enveloped more and more people into whiteness. First it was Italians and Germans and Jews, or Jews really starting after World War II and the Holocaust. And then it was gays and women, and now even blacks themselves have been enveloped in this sort of adjacency to whiteness where everyone sort of gets ahead by beating up, by punching down on black people. And so George Jackson's quote really sort of encapsulates the success that we, the people can have by working together. And I want to be very clear about the enemy is not white people. The enemy is a white identity. (00:04:48): Hungarians and Czech and the Brits and the French and the Italians are not our enemy. They are glorious people who have done glorious things, but the formation of a white identity is really the kryptonite for working class movements in this country. Wilmer Leon (00:05:07): In fact, I'm glad you make that point because I wanted to call attention to the fact that a lot of people listening to this and hear you talk about the Irish or the Poles or the Italians, that in Europe, those were nationalisms, those were not racial constructs. Those were not racial identities. And that it really wasn't until many of them came to America and or post World War ii, that this construct of whiteness really began to take hold as the elite in America understood, particularly post-slavery. That if the poor and the working class whites formed an alliance with the newly freed, formerly enslaved, that that would be a social condition that they would not be able to control. Jon Jeter (00:06:11): It was almost, it was as close to invincible as you could ever see. This coalition, which particularly after slavery, very tenuously, (00:06:24): But many, many whites, particularly those who were newer to the country, Germans and Italians and Irish, who had not formed a white identity, formed a white identity here. As you said in Europe, they were Irish Italians. Germans. One story I think tells the tale, it was a dock workers strike in New Orleans in 1894. I read about this in the book, and the dock workers were segregated, black unions and white unions, but they worked together, they worked in concert, they went on strike for higher wages, and I think a closed shop, meaning that if you worked on the docks, you had to belong to the union and they largely won. And the reason for that is because the bosses, the ship owners tried to separate the two. They would tell the white dock workers, we'll work with you, but we won't work with those N words. (00:07:22): And many of the dock workers at that time had just come over from Europe. So they were like, what are you talking about? He's a worker just like me. I worked right next to him, or he works the doc over from me or the platform over from me. He's working there. So what do you mean you're not going to work with, you're going to deal with all of us? And that ethos, that governing ethos of interracial solidarity was one that really held the day until 20 years later, 20 years later, by which time Jim Crow, which was really an economic and political strategy, had really taken hold. And many of the dock workers, their children had begun to think of themselves as white. Wilmer Leon (00:08:06): In fact, I'm glad you referred to the children because another parallel to this is segregated education. As the framers, and I don't mean of the constitution, but of this culture, wanted to impose this racial caste system, they realized you can't have little Jimmy and little Johnny playing together sitting next to each other in classrooms and then try to impose a system of hierarchy based on phenotype as these children get older. What do you mean I can't play with him? What do you mean I can't play with her? She's my friend. No, not anymore. And so that's one of the things that contributed to this phenotypical ethos separating white children from black children. Jon Jeter (00:09:01): Education has been such a pivotal instrument for the elites, for the oligarchs, for the investor class in fighting this class war. It's not just been an instrument, a tool to divide education in the United States. It's largely intended to reproduce inequality, and it always has been, although obviously many of us, many people in the working class see, there's a tool to get ahead. That's not how the stock class sees it. (00:09:35): But beyond that even it is the investment in education. This is a theme throughout the book from the first chapter to the last basically where education, because it is seen as a tool for uplift by the working class, but by the investment class, it's seen as a tool to divide. And increasingly really since about really the turn of the century, this century, the 21st century, it's been seen as an investment opportunity. So that's why we have all of these school closures and the school privatization effort. It's an investment opportunity. So the problem is that we're fighting a class war. We've always been fighting a class war, but it's something that is seldom mentioned in public discussions in the media, the news or entertainment media, it's seldom mentioned, but schools education, you could make an argument that it is the holy grail of the class war, whoever can capture the educational system because it can become a tool both by keeping it public or I guess making it public now, returning it to public. And so much of it is in private hands by maintaining its public nature, and at the same time using it to reduce inequality as opposed to reproducing inequality Wilmer Leon (00:11:08): And public education and access to those public education dollars is also an element of redistribution of wealth because as access to finance is becoming more challenging, particularly through the neocolonialist idea using public dollars for private sector interest, giving access to those public education dollars to the private sector is another one of the mechanisms that the elite used to redistribute public dollars into private hands. Jon Jeter (00:11:49): One of the things that I discovered and researching this book was the extent to which bonds sold by municipalities, by the government, those bonds are sold to investors. That is more and more since really the Reagan era, because we've shipped manufacturing offshore. So how do you make money if you are invested, if you've got surplus money laying around, how do you make money? You invest it, speculate. Loan tracking essentially is what it is. One of the ways that you can make money. One of the things that you can invest money in is the public sector. So schools become an instrument for finance. And so what we see around the country are schools education becoming an investment vehicle for the rich and they can invest in it and they're paying higher and higher returns. Taxpayers. (00:12:57): You and I, Wilmer, are paying more and more to satisfy our creditors. For as one example, I believe it was in San Diego or a school district near or right outside San Diego, this was about 20 years ago, but they took out a loan to finance public education there, I believe just their elementary schools in that district. And it was something like a hundred million dollars loan just for the daily operations of that school district. And that had a balance due or the money, the interest rate was such that it was going to cost the taxpayers in that district a billion dollars to repay that loan, right? So that is an extreme example. But increasingly what we've seen is public education bonds that are used to pay for the daily operations of our municipalities are the two of the class war are an instrument of combat in the class war because the more that cities practice what we call austerity, what economists call austerity, cutting the budget to the very bare minimum, the more investment opportunities it creates for the rich who then reap that money back. (00:14:15): So they've got a tax cut because they're not paying for the schools upfront, and it becomes an investment opportunity because they're paying for the schools as loans, which they give back exorbitant interest rates, sometimes resembling the interest rates on our credit card. So a lot of this is unseen by the public, but it really is how the class war being waged in the 21st century speculation because our manufacturing sector has been shipped offshore, and that's how we made the elites made their money for more than a century after World War ii, after the agrarian period. So yeah, it's really invisible to the naked eye, but it is where it's the primary battlefield for the class war. Wilmer Leon (00:15:00): The second quote you have is Muriel Rukeyser. The universe is made of stories, not of atoms. And I know that that resonates with you particularly because as a journalist, one who tells stories, why is that quote so significant and relevant to this book? Jon Jeter (00:15:26): This book is really, it took me almost a quarter of my life to write this book from the time that the idea first occurred to me, to the time I finished almost 15 years. And it's evolved over time. But one of the biggest setbacks was just trying to find a publisher. And many publishers, I think, although they did not say this, they objected to the subject matter. And my characterization, I have one quote again from George Jackson where he says, the biggest barrier to the advancement of the working class in America is white racism. So I think they objected to that. But I also faced issues with a few black publishers, one of whom said that after reading the manuscript that it didn't have enough theory. I would say to anyone, any publisher who thinks that theory is better than story probably shouldn't be a publisher. But I also think it's sort of symptomatic of today's, the media today where we don't understand that stories are what connects us to each other, Right? The suffering, the struggle, the triumphs of other people of our ancestors, Wilmer Leon (00:16:48): The reality Of the story Jon Jeter (00:16:51): reality, yes, Wilmer Leon (00:16:52): Juxtaposed to the theoretical. Jon Jeter (00:16:56): That's exactly right. Wilmer Leon (00:16:57): In Fact, Jon Jeter (00:16:59): The application of the theory, Wilmer Leon (00:17:01): I tell my students and when I was teaching public policy that you have to understand the difference between the theoretical and the practical, and that there are a lot of things in policy that in theory make a whole lot of sense until you then have to operationalize that on a daily basis and then have it make real sense. Big difference between the theoretical and the practical. Jon Jeter (00:17:26): No question about it. And you see this over and over again throughout the book, you see examples of, for instance, the application of communist theory. And I'm not advocating for anyone to be a communist, just that there was a very real push by communists in the United States encouraged by communists and the Soviet Union in the 1930s to try to start a worldwide proletarian revolution, the stronghold of which was here in the United States. And so the Scotts Corps boys, nine teenage boys, black boys who were falsely accused of rape, became the testing ground for communism right now, communism. It was something that sparked the imagination of a lot of black people. Very few joined the party, but it sparked the imagination. So you found a lot of blacks who were sympathetic to communism in the thirties and the forties. Wilmer Leon (00:18:21):  Rosa Parks's husband Rosa. Jon Jeter (00:18:23): That's correct. Wilmer Leon (00:18:24): Rosa. Rosa Parks's husband, Rosa Parks, the patron saint of protest politics. Jon Jeter (00:18:31): Yes. Coleman Young, the first black mayor of Detroit. I write about very specifically. It was a thing, right? But it was the application of it. And ultimately, I think most of the blacks, many of the blacks certainly who tried to implement communism would argue not only that they failed, but that communism failed them as well. So I don't, again, not an advocacy for communism, but that idea really did move the needle forward. And I think our future is not in our past. So going forward, we might sort of learn from what happened in the past, and there might be some things we can learn from communism, but I think ultimately it is, as the communist say, dialectical materialism. You can't dip your toe in the same river twice. So it is moving like it's gathering steam and it's not going to be what it was. Although we can take some lessons from the past, from the Scottsboro boys from the 1930s and the 1940s. Wilmer Leon (00:19:29): You write in your prologue quote, I cannot predict with any certainty the quality of that revolution, the one we were talking about in the open, or even it's outcome only that it is imminent for the historical record clearly asserts that the nationwide uprisings on college campuses' prophecy the resumption of hostilities between America's workers and their bosses. I'm going to try and connect the dot here, which may not make any sense, or you may say, Wilmer, that was utterly brilliant. I prefer the latter. Just over the past few days, former President Trump has been suggesting using the military to handle what he calls the enemy from within, because he is saying on election day, if he doesn't win, there will be chaos. And he says, not from foreign actors, but from the radical left lunatics, he says, I think the bigger problem are the people from within. And he says, you may need to use the National Guard, you may need to use the military, because this is going to happen. Now, I know you and Trump aren't talking. You're about two different things. I realize that different with different agendas, but this discussion about nationwide uprisings, and so your thoughts on how you looking at the college protests and what that symbolizes in terms of the discontent within the country and what Trump is, the fear that Trump is trying to sow in the minds relative to the election. Does that make any sense? Jon Jeter (00:21:18): It makes perfect sense. You don't say that about warmer Leon, all that all. Wilmer Leon (00:21:21): Oh, thank you. You're right. Jon Jeter (00:21:22): It makes perfect sense. But no, and actually I would draw a pretty straight line from Trump to what I'm writing about in the book. For instance, Nixon, who was a very smart man, and Trump was not a very smart man, it's just that he used his intelligence for evil. But Richard Nixon was faced with an uprising, a nationwide uprising on college campuses, and he resorted to violence, as we saw with Kent State. Wilmer Leon (00:21:52): Kent State, yes. Jon Jeter (00:21:53): Very intentional. Wilmer Leon (00:21:54): Jackson State, Jon Jeter (00:21:55): Yes, it was Wilmer Leon (00:21:56): Southern University in Louisiana. Jon Jeter (00:21:58): Yes, yes, yes. But Kent State was a little bit of an outlier because it was meant white kids as a shot across the bow to show white kids that if you continue to collaborate with blacks, with the Vietnamese, continue to sympathize with them and rally on their behalf, then you might get exactly what the blacks get and the Vietnamese are getting right. And honestly, in the long term, that strategy probably worked. It did help to divide this insurgency that was particularly activated on college campuses. So what Trump, I think is faced with what he will be faced with if he is reelected, which I think he very well may be, what he's going to be faced with is another insurgency that is centered on college campuses. This time. It's not the Vietnamese, it's the Palestinians, and increasingly every day the Lebanese. But it's the very same dynamic at work, which is this, you have white people on college campuses, particularly when you talk about the college campuses in the Ivy League. (00:23:13): These are kids who are mostly to the manner born. If you think about it, what they're doing is they are protesting their future employer. They're putting it all on the line to say, no, no, no, no, there's something bigger than my career than me working for you. And that is the fate of the Palestinian people. That's very much what happened in the late sixties, early seventies with the Vietnamese. And so Mark Twain is I think perhaps the greatest white man in American history, but one thing he got wrong. I don't think history rhymes. I think it does indeed repeat itself, but I think that's what we're seeing now with these kids on college campuses, that people thought that they dismantled these campus, these encampments all across the nation during the summer, the spring semester, and that when they came back that it would be over squash. (00:24:07): That's not what's happening. They're coming back loaded for bear. These college students, that does not all go well for the establishment, particularly in tandem with other things are going on, which is these nationwide, very likely a very serious economic crisis. Financial crisis is imminent, very likely. And these other barometers of social unrest, police killings of blacks, the cop cities that are being built around the country, environmental issues, what's happening in Gaza that can very much intersect. We're already seeing it. It's intersected with other issues. So there is a very real chance that we're going to see a regrouping of this progressive working class movement. How far it goes, we can't say we don't know. I mean, just because you protest doesn't mean that the oligarch just say, okay, well, you got it, you want, it doesn't happen that way. But what's the saying? You might not win every fight, but you're going to lose every fight that you don't fight. So we have a chance that we got a punch a chance like Michael Spinx with Mike Tyson made, but we got a shot. Wilmer Leon (00:25:26): And to that point, what did Mike Tyson say? Everybody can fight till they get punched in the face. Yeah, Jon Jeter (00:25:32): Everybody's got to plan until they get punched in the nose right Wilmer Leon (00:25:35): Now. So to your point about kids putting everything on the line and the children of the elite, putting it on the line, there was a university, a Bolt Hall, which is the law school at University of California, Berkeley, Steven David Solomon. He wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal that the law firm of Winston and Strawn did the right thing when it revoked the job offer of an NYU law student who publicly condemned Israel for the Hamas terrorist attacks. Legal employers in the recruiting process should do what Winston and Strawn did treat these students like the adults they are, if a student endorses hate dehumanization or antisemitism, don't hire 'em. So he was sending a very clear message, protest if you want to, there's going to be a price to pay. Jon Jeter (00:26:30): Yeah, I think those measures actually are counterproductive for the elites. It really sort of rallies and galvanizes. What we saw at Cornell, I'm not sure what happened with this, but a few weeks ago, they were talking about a student activist who was from West Africa, I believe, and the school Cornell was trying to basically repatriate, have them deported. But I think actions like that tend to work against the elite institutions. I hate to say this because I'm not an advocate of it, although I realize it's sometimes necessary violence seems to work best both for the elites and for the working class. And I'm not advocating that, but I'm just saying that historically it has occurred and it has been used by both sides when any student of France, Nan knows that when social movements allow the state to monopolize violence, you're probably going to lose that fight. And I think honestly speaking, that the state understands that violences can be as most effective weapon. People don't want to die, particularly young people. So it becomes sort of a clash between an irresistible force and an immovable object. Again, that's why I say I can't predict what will happen, but I do think we're on the verge of a very real, some very real social upheaval Wilmer Leon (00:27:54): Folks. This is the brilliance of John Jeter, journalist two time Pulitzer Prize finalists. We're talking about his book Class War in America, how the Elites Divide the Nation by asking, are you a worker or are you white? As you can see, I have the book, I've read the book, phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal writer. Writer. You write in chapter one, declarations of War. And I love the fact you quote, Sun Tzu, all warfare is based on deception. Jon Jeter (00:28:24): That's Right. Wilmer Leon (00:28:25): You write on the last day of the first leg of his final trip abroad, his president with Donald Trump waiting in the wings, a subdued Barack Obama waxed poetic on the essence of democracy as he toured the Acropolis in Greece. It's here in Athens that so many of our ideas about democracy, our notions of citizenship, our notions of rule of law began to develop. And then you continue. What was left unsaid in Obama's August soliloquy is that while Greece is typically acknowledged by Western scholars as the cradle of democracy, the country could in fact learn a thing or two about governance from its protege across the pond. What types of things do you see that we still could learn from them since we're being told in this election, democracy is on the ballot and all of those rhetorical tactics? Yeah, a minute, a minute, a minute. Especially in the most recent context of Barack Obama helping to set the stage of a Kamala Harris loss and blaming it on black men. Jon Jeter (00:29:43): Yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. He's setting us up to be the scapegoats, Wilmer Leon (00:29:48): One of the does my connecting the dots there. Does that make sense? Jon Jeter (00:29:52): It makes perfect sense. And one of the themes of this book that I guess I didn't want to hammer home too much because it makes me sound too patriotic, but in one sense, what I'm writing about when I talk about the class war, what I'm writing about is this system of racial capitalism, right? Capitalism. Capitalism is exploited. Racial capitalism pits the workers against each other by creating a super exploited class that would be African-Americans and turning one half of the working class against the other half, or actually in the case of the United States, probably 70% against 30% or something like that. Anyway, but the antidote to racial capitalism is racial solidarity, which is a system of governance in which black men are fit to participate in, because we tend to be black men and black women tend to be the most progressive actors, political actors in the United States, the vanguard of the revolution, really, when we've had revolution in this country, we've been leaders of that revolution. And so what I was really trying to lay out with that first chapter where I talk about this interracial coalition in Virginia in the late 1870s, early 1880s, is that this was a century before South Africa created the Rainbow Nation, right? Nelson Mandela's Rainbow Nation, which didn't produce the results that the United States. Wilmer Leon (00:31:32): There was no pot of gold. There was no pot of gold. Jon Jeter (00:31:34): Yeah, not so far, we've seen no sight of it. And Brazil hadn't even freed its slaves when this readjust party emerged in Virginia. And so what I'm saying is that this interracial coalition that we saw most prominently in Virginia, but really all across the nation, we saw these interracial coalitions, political coalitions, were all across the Confederacy after the Civil War, and they had varying degrees of success in redistributing wealth from rich to poor, rich to working class. But the point is that no country has really seen such a dynamic interracial rainbow coalition or racial democracy, such as we've seen here in the United States, both in that period after the Civil War, and also in the period between, say, I would say FDRs election as president in 1930, was that 31, 33? 33. (00:32:36): So roughly about the time of Ronald Reagan, we saw, of course there was racism. We didn't end racism, but there was this tenuous collaboration between white and black workers that redistributed wealth. So that by 1973, at the height of it, the working class wages accounted for more than half of GDP. Now it's about 58%, I'm sorry, 42% that the workers' wages accountant for GDP. So the point I'm making really is that this racial democracy, this racial democracy has served the working class very well in the United States, and by dissipating that racial democracy, it has served the elites very well. So Barack Obama's plea to black men, which is really quite frankly aimed at white men, telling them, showing them, Hey, I've got the money control. His job is to sort of quell this uprising by black men, and he's trying to tell plea with black men to vote for Kamala Harris, knowing that the Democratic Party, particularly since 1992 when Bill Clinton was elected, has not only done nothing for black men, but in fact has sought to compete for white suburban voters, IE, many of them racist has sought to compete with the GOP for white suburban voters (00:34:04): By showing they can be just as hard on black people as the GOP. People think that the 1995, was it 1994, omnibus crime Bill 94, racial 94, the racial disparities were unintended consequences. They weren't unintended at all. They weren't in fact, the point they wanted to show white people, the Democratic Party, bill Clinton, our current president, Joe Biden, and many other whites in Democratic party want to show whites, no, no, no, no. We got these Negroes in check. We can keep them in control just like the GOP can. And that continues to be the unofficial unstated policy today, which is why Kamala Harris says, I'm not going to do anything, especially for black people. It's why, for instance, nothing has changed legislatively since George Floyd was lynched before our eyes four years ago. Absolutely nothing has changed. That's an accent that is by design. So there's some very real connections that could be made. There's a straight line that can be made from the read adjuster party in Virginia in the 1880s, which had some real successes in redistributing wealth from rich to the workers and to the poor. And it was an interracial collaboration to Barack Obama appearing, pleading with black men to come vote for Kamala Harris, despite the fact she's done nothing for black men or for black people. Wilmer Leon (00:35:31): And to your earlier point, offering nothing but rhetoric and the opportunity economy where everybody, what in the world is, how does that feed the bulldog? So we've gone from, at least in terms of what they're, I believe, trying to do with black politics. We've gone from a politics of demand. We've gone from a politics of accountability to just a politics of promises and very vague. And this isn't in any way, shape or form trying to convince people that Donald Trump is any better. No, that's not what this conversation is about. But it's about former President Obama coming to a podium and telling black men how admonishing black men, how dare you consider this. But my question is, well, what are the specific policies that Vice President Harris is offering that she can also pass and pay for that are going to benefit the community? Because that's what this is supposed to be about, policy output. Jon Jeter (00:36:55): And that's the one thing that's not going to happen until the working class, we, the people decide, and I don't know what the answer's going to be, if it's going to be a third party, if it's going to be us taking control of the Democratic Party at the grassroots level, I don't know what it's going to be. But the philosophical underpinnings of both political parties is black suffering, right? Black suffering is what greases the wheel, the wheel, the political wheel, the economic wheel of the United States, the idea that you can isolate blacks and our suffering. What Reagan did, what Reagan began was a system of punishing blacks in the workplace, shipping those jobs overseas, which Reagan began, and very slowly, Clinton is the one who really picked up the pace, Wilmer Leon (00:37:44): The de-industrialization of America. Jon Jeter (00:37:47): The de-industrialization of America was based on black suffering. We were the first, was it last hired? First fired. And so we were the ones who lost those jobs initially, and it just snowballed, right? We lost those jobs. And think about when we saw the crack epidemic. Crack is a reflection of crises, (00:38:12): Right? Social crises. So we saw this thing snowball, really, right? But you, in their mind, you can isolate the suffering until you can't. What do I mean by that? Well, if you have just a very basic understanding of the economy, you understand that if you rob 13% of your population buying power, you robbed everybody of buying power, right? I mean, who's going to buy your goods and services if we no longer have buying power? We don't have jobs that pay good wages, we have loans that we can't repay. How does that sustain a workable economy? And maybe no one will remember this, but you've probably heard of Henry Ford's policy of $5 a day that was intended to sustain the economy with buying one thing, the one thing Wilmer Leon (00:39:07):  wait a minute, so that his workers, his assembly line automobile workers could afford to buy the product they were making. There are those who will argue that one of the motivations for ending slavery was the elite looked at the industrialists, looked at this entire population of people and said, these can be consumers. These people are a drag on the economy. If we free them, they can become consumers. Jon Jeter (00:39:45): You don't have to be a communist to understand that capitalism at its best. It can work for a long time, for a sustained period of time. It can work very well for a majority of the people. If the consumers have buying power. We don't have that anymore. We're a nation of borrowers. Wilmer Leon (00:40:07): It's the greed of the capitalists that makes capitalism consumptive, and there's another, the leviathan, all of that stuff. Jon Jeter (00:40:19): Yes. And again, black suffering is at the root of this nation's failure. We have plunged into this dark hole because they sought first to short circuit our income, our resources, but it's affected the entire economy. And the only way to rebuild it, if you want to rebuild a capitalist economy, and that's fine with me, the only way you can rebuild is to restore buying power for a majority of the Americans. As we saw during the forties, the fifties, particularly after the war, we saw this surge in buying power, which created, by the way, the greatest achievement of the industrial age, which was the American middle class. And that was predicated again on racial democracy. Blacks participating in the democracy. Wilmer Leon (00:41:10): You mentioned black men and women tended to be incredibly progressive, and that black men and women were the vanguard of the revolution. What then is the problem with so many of our black institutions that, particularly when you look at our HBCUs that make so many of them, anything but progressive, Jon Jeter (00:41:42): That's a real theme of the book. This thing called racial capitalism has survived by peeling off more and more people. At first, it was the people who came through Ellis Island, European Central Europeans, Hungarians checks, and I have someone in the book I'm quoting, I think David Roediger, the labor historian, famous labor historian, where he quoted a Serbian immigrant, I think in the early 1900's , saying, the first thing you learn is you don't wanna be, that the blacks don't get a fair chance, meaning that you don't want to be anything like them. You don't want to associate with them. And that was a very powerful thing. That's indoctrination. But they do. They peel off one layer after another. One of the most important chapters in the book, I think was the one that begins with the execution of the Rosenbergs, who were the Rosenbergs. Ethel and Julius Rosenbergs were communists, or at least former communists who probably did, certainly, Julius probably did help to pass nuclear technology to the Soviet Union in the late forties, early fifties. (00:42:52): At best. It probably sped up the Russians. Soviet Union's ability to develop the bomb sped up by a year, basically. That's the best that it did. So they had this technology already. Ethel Rosenberg may have typed up the notes. That's all she probably did. And anyway, the state, the government, the US government wanted to make an example out of them. And so they executed them and they executed Ethel Rosenberg. They wanted her to turn against her husband, which would've been turning against her country, her countryman, right? She realized that she wouldn't do it. I can tell you, Ethel Rosenberg was every bit as hard as Tupac. She was a bad woman. Wilmer Leon (00:43:40): But was she as hard as biggie? Jon Jeter (00:43:41): I dunno, that whole east coast, west coast thing, I dunno. But that was a turning point in the class where, because what it was intended to do, or among the things it was intended to do, was the Jews were coming out the Holocaust. The Jews were probably, no, not probably. They certainly were the greatest ally blacks. Many of the communists who helped the Scotsboro boys in the 1930s, and they were communists. Many of them were Jews, right? It was no question about, because the Jews didn't see themselves as white. Remember, Hitler attacked them because they were non-white because they were communists. That's why he attacked them. And that was certainly true here, where there was a very real collusion between Jewish communists and blacks, and it was meant execution of the Rosenbergs was meant to send a signal to the working class, to the Jewish community, especially. You can continue to eff around with these people if you want right, Wilmer Leon (00:44:43): but you'll wind up like em. Jon Jeter (00:44:44): Yeah. Yeah. And at the same time, you think right after the Rosenbergs execution, this figure emerged named Milton Friedman, right? Milton Friedman who said, Hey, wait a minute. This whole brown versus Board of Education, you don't have to succumb to that white people. You can send your kids to their own schools or private schools and make the state pay for it. So very calculated move where the Jews became white, basically, not all of them. You still have, and you still have today, as we see with the protest against Israel, the Jewish community is still very progressive as a very progressive wing and are still our allies in a lot of ways. But many of them chose to be white. The same thing has happened ironically, with black people, right? There is a segment of the population that's represented by a former president, Barack Obama, by Kamala Harris, by the entire Congressional black office that has been offered, that has been extended, this sort of olive branch of prosperity. (00:45:40): If you help us keep these Negroes down, you can have some of this too. Like the scene in Trading Places where Eddie Murphy is released from jail. He's sitting in the backseat with these two doctors and they're like, well, you can go home if you want to. He's got the cigar and the snifter of cognac, no believe I can hang out with you. Fell a little bit longer, right? That's what you see happening now with a lot of black people, particularly the black elite, where they say, no, I think I can hang out with you a little bit longer. So they've turned against us. Wilmer Leon (00:46:13): Port Tom Porter calls that the NER position. Jon Jeter (00:46:17): Yes. Yes. Wilmer Leon (00:46:19): And for those that may not hear the NER, the near position that Mortimer and what was the other brother's name? i Jon Jeter (00:46:28): I Can't remember. I can see their faces, Wilmer Leon (00:46:30): Right? That they have been induced and they have been brought into this sense of entitlement because they are near positions of power. And I think a perfect example of that is the latest election in New York and in St. Louis where you've had, where APAC bragged publicly, we're going to invest $100 million into these Democratic primary elections, and we are going to unseat those who we believe to be two progressive anti-Israel and Cori Bush in St. Louis and Bowman, Jamal Bowman in New York were two of the most notable victims of that. And in fact, I was just having this conversation with Tom earlier today, and that is that nobody seemed to complain. I don't remember the Black caucus, anybody in the black caucus coming out. That article came out, I want to say in April of this year, and they did not say a mumbling word about, what do you mean you're about to interfere in our election? But after Cori Bush lost, now she's out there talking about APAC, I'm coming after your village. Hey, home, girl. That's a little bit of aggression, a whole lot too late. You just got knocked out. (00:48:19): Just got knocked the F out. You are laying, you are laying on the canvas, the crowd's headed to the exits, and you're looking around screaming, who hit me? Who hit me? Who hit me? That anger should have been on the front end talking about, oh, you all going to put in a hundred million? Well, we going to get a hundred million and one votes. And it should have been exposed. Had it been exposed for what it was, they'd still be in office. Jon Jeter (00:48:50): And to that point, and this is very interesting. Now, Jamal Bowman, I talked to some black activists in New York in his district, and they would tell you we never saw, right? We had these press conferences where we're protesting police violence under Mayor Eric Adams, another black (00:49:11): Politician, and we never saw him. He didn't anticipate. In fact, one of them says she's with Black Lives Matter, I believe she says, we called him when it was announced that APAC was backing this candidate. He said, what can we do? Said they never heard back. Right? Cori Bush, to her credit, is more from the movement. She was a product of Michael Brown. My guess is she will be back, right? That's my guess. Because she has a lot of support from the grassroots. She probably, if anyone can defeat APAC money as Cori Bush, although she's not perfect either. Wilmer Leon (00:49:44): But my point is still, I think she fell into the trap. Jon Jeter (00:49:51): No question. No question. No question. No, I don't disagree at all. And that again, is that peeling off another layer to turn them against this radical black? That's what it really is. It's a radical black political tradition that survived slavery. It's still here, right? It's just that they're constantly trying to suppress that. Wilmer Leon (00:50:10): And another element of this, and I'm trying to remember the sister that they did this to in Georgia, Congresswoman, wait a minute, hang on. Time out. Cynthia McKinney. The value of having a library, Cynthia McKinney. (00:50:31): Most definitely! (00:50:33): They did the same thing. How the US creates S*hole countries. Cynthia McKinney, they did the same thing to her. So it's not as though they had developed a new strategy. It's that it worked against Cynthia and they played it again, and we let it happen. Jon Jeter (00:50:57): Real democracy can immunize these politicians though, from that kind of strategy. Wilmer Leon (00:51:01): Absolutely. Absolutely. In chapter six, the Battle on the Bay, you talk about 1927, you talk about this 47-year-old ironworker, John Norris, who buys this flat, and then the depression hits and he loses everything. You talk about Rose Majeski, Jon Jeter (00:51:24): I think I Wilmer Leon (00:51:26): Managed to raise her five children. You talk about the Depression. The Harlem Renaissance writer, Langston Hughes wrote, brought everybody down a peg or two, and the Negro had but few pegs to fall. Travis Dempsey lost his job selling to the Chicago defender. Then you talk about a gorgeous summer day, Theodore Goodlow driving a truck and a hayride black people on a hayride, and someone falls victim to a white man running into the hayride. And his name was John Jeter. John with an H. Yours has no H Jon Jeter (00:52:13): Legally it does. Wilmer Leon (00:52:14): Oh, okay. Okay, okay. All right. Anyway, so you make a personal familiar connection to some of this. Elaborate, Jon Jeter (00:52:26): My uncle, who was a teenager at the time, I can't remember exactly how old he played in the Negro Leagues, actually, Negro baseball leagues was on this hayride. And I know the street. I'm very familiar with. The street. Two trucks can't pass one another. It's just too narrow, and it's like an aqueduct. So it's got walls there to keep you. Oh, (00:52:52): Viaduct. I'm sorry. Yeah. Not an auc. Yeah, thank you. Public education. So basically what happened is my uncle had his legs sort of out the hayride, like he's a teenager, and this car came along, another truck came along and it sheared his legs off, killed him. I don't think my father ever knew the story. I think my father went to his grave not knowing the story, but we did some research after his death, me and my sister and my brother, my younger brother. And there was almost a riot at the hospital when my uncle died, because the belief, I believe they couldn't quite say it in the black newspaper at the time, but the belief was that this white man had done it intentionally, right? He wasn't charged, and black people were very upset. So it was an act of aggression, very much, very similar to what we see now happening all over the country with these acts of white, of aggression by white men, basically young white men who are angry about feeling they're losing their racial privileges or racial entitlement. (00:53:52): So anyway, to make the story short, I was named after my uncle, my father, my mother named me after my uncle, but I think it was 1972. I would've been seven years old. And me and my father were at a farmer's market in Indianapolis where I grew up. And this old man at this time, old man, I mean doting in a brown suit, I'll never forget this in a brown suit. He comes up to us and he just comes up to my father and he holds his hand, shakes his hand, and I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And my father's said, no, it's okay. You didn't know. It wasn't your fault. Nobody blamed you. And come to find out that he was the driver of that hay ride, right? I think a dentist at the time, he was the driver of that hayride in which my uncle was killed. (00:54:38): And he had felt bad about it, I guess, the rest of his days. So yeah, it's really interesting how my life, or at least the lives of my parents and my grandparents, how it intersects with this story of the class war. And it does in many, many aspects. It does. And I suspect that's true of most people, I hope, who will read the book, that they will find their own lives and their own history intersecting with this class war. Because this class war is comprehensive. It's hard to escape from it. It is all about the class war to paraphrase Fred Hampton. And yeah, that story really kind of moved me in a lot of ways because I had personal history, personal connection. Wilmer Leon (00:55:25): You mentioned when you just said that there was almost this riot at the hospital. What a lot of people now today don't realize is how many of those incidents occurred during those times. And we know very little, if anything about 'em, we were raising hell. So for example, you listened to some kids today was, man, if I had to been back there, I wouldn't have been no slaves. I'd have been out there kicking ass and taking names. Well, but implicit in that is a lack of understanding that folks were raising hell, 1898 in Greenwood, South Carolina, one of my great uncles was lynched in the Phoenix Riot. Black people tried to vote, fight breaks out, white guy gets shot, they round up the usual suspects, Jon Jeter (00:56:23): Right Wilmer Leon (00:56:23): Of whom was my great uncle. Some were lynched, some were shot at the Rehoboth Church in the parking lot of the Rehoboth Church, nonetheless. And that was the week before the more famous Wilmington riot. It was one week before the Wilmington Riot. And you've got the dcom lunch counters. And I mean, all of these history is replete with all of these stories of our resistance. And somehow now we've lost the near position. We've lost. We've lost that fight. Jon Jeter (00:57:02): We don't understand, and I mean this about all of us, but particularly African Americans, we don't understand. We once were warriors. And so one of the things I talk about in the book I write about in the book is the red summer of 1919. Many people are familiar with 1919, the purges that were going on. Basically this industrial upheaval. And the white elites were afraid that blacks were going to sort of lead this union labor organizing movement. And so there were these riots all across the country of whites attacking blacks. But what people don't understand is that the brothers, back then, many of them who had participated in World War, they were like Fred Hampton, it takes two to tango, right? And they were shooting back. And in fact, to end that thought, some of these riots, which weren't really riots, they were meant to be massacre, some of these, they had scouts who went into the black community to see almost to see their vulnerability. And a few times the White Scouts came back and said, no, we don't wanna go in there. We better leave them alone. Wilmer Leon (00:58:12): I was looking over here on my bookcase, got, oh, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Red summer, the summer of 1919, and the Awakening of Black America. Yeah, yeah. Jon Jeter (00:58:24): I've got that book. I've got that same book. Yep. Wilmer Leon (00:58:26): Okay, so I've got a couple others here. Death in the Promised Land, the Tulsa Race Riot in 1921, and see what a lot of people don't know about Tulsa is after the alleged encounter in the elevator Jon Jeter (00:58:44): Elevator, right! Wilmer Leon (00:58:45): Right? That young man went home, went to the community, went back to, and when the folks came in, the community, they didn't just sit idly by and let this deal go down. That's why, one of the reasons why I believe, I think I have this right, that it got to the tension that it did because it just came an all out fight. Jon Jeter (00:59:12): Oh yeah, Oh yeah! Wilmer Leon (00:59:12): We fought back Jon Jeter (00:59:14): tooth and nail. Wilmer Leon (00:59:16): We fought back, Jon Jeter (00:59:16): Tooth and nail. Yeah, no, definitely. Wilmer Leon (00:59:18): We fought back. So Brother John Jeter, when someone is done reading class War in America, how the elites divided the nation by asking, are you a worker or are you white? And I'm reading it backwards anyway, what are the three major points that you want someone to take away from reading? And folks I've read it, it's a phenomenal, phenomenal. In fact, before you answer that question, let me give this plug. I suggest that usually when I recommend a book, I try to recommend a compliment to it. And I would suggest that people get John Jeter class war in America and then get Dr. Ronald Walters "White Nationalism, Black Interests." Jon Jeter (01:00:13): Oh yeah. Wilmer Leon (01:00:14): And read those two, I Think. Jon Jeter (01:00:18): Oh, I love that. I love being compared to Ron Walters, the great Ron Walters, Wilmer Leon (01:00:23): And I would not be where I am and who I am. He played a tremendous role in Dr. Wilmer Leon. I have a PhD because of him. Jon Jeter (01:00:33): He is a great man. I interviewed him a few times. Wilmer Leon (01:00:36): Yeah, few. So while you're answering that question, I'm going to, so what are the two or three things that you want the reader to walk away from this book having a better understanding of? Jon Jeter (01:00:47): Well, we almost end where we begin. The first thing is Fred Hampton. It is a class war gda is what he said, right? It's a class war. But that does not mean that you can put class above race if you really want to understand the battle, the fight, Wilmer Leon (01:01:09): Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Lemme interrupt you. There was a question I wanted to ask you, and I forgot. Thomas Sowell, the economist Thomas Sowell. And just quickly, because to your point about putting class above race, I wanted to get to the Thomas Sowell point, and I almost forgot it. So in your exposition here, work Thomas, Sowell into your answer. Jon Jeter (01:01:30): Yeah, Thomas. Sowell, and I think a lot of people, particularly now you see with these young, mostly white liberals, although some blacks like Adolf Reed, the political scientists, Adolf Reed posit that it's class above race, that the issues racial and antagonisms should be subordinate to the class issue. Overall, universal ideas and programs, I would argue you can't parse one from the other, that they are connected in a way that you can't separate them. That yes, it is a class issue, but they've used race to weaken the working class to pit it against the itself. So you can't really parse the two and understand the battle that we have in front of us. The other thing I would say too, because like the Panthers would say, I hate the oppressor. I don't hate white people. And it really is a white identity. But as George Jackson said, and I quote him in the book, white racism is the biggest barrier to a united left in United States. That which is true when he wrote it more than 50 years ago, (01:02:43): It was true 50 years before that is true today. It is white racism. That is the problem. And once whites can, as we see happening, we do see it happening with these young, many of them Jewish, but really whites of all from all walks of life are forfeiting their racial privileges to rally, to advocate for the Palestinians. So that's a very good sign that something is stirring within our community. And the third thing I would say is, I'm not optimistic, right? Because optimism is dangerous. Something Barack Obama should have learned talking about the audacity of hope, he meant optimism and optimism is not what you need. But I do think there's reason for hope, these young students on the college campuses who are rallying the, I think the very real existential threat posed to the duopoly by the Democratic Party, by Kamala Harris and Joe Biden's complicity in this genocide. I think there's a very real possibility that the duopoly is facing an existential threat. People are understanding that the enemy is, our political class, is our elite political class that is responsible for this genocide that we are seeing in real time. (01:04:03): That's Never happened before. So I would say the three things, it is a class for white racism is the biggest barrier to a united left or a united working class in this country. And third, there is reason to hope that we might be able to reorganize. And in fact, history suggests that we will organize very soon, reorganize very soon. There might be a dark period in between that, but that we will reorganize. And that this time, I hope we understand that we need to fight against this white racism, which unfortunately, whites give up that privilege. History has shown whites give up that privilege of being white, work with us, collaborate with us. But they return, as we saw beginning with Ronald Reagan, they return to this idea of a white identity, which is really a scab. Wilmer Leon (01:04:50): Well, in fact, Dr. King told us in where we go from here, chaos or community, he said, be wary of the white liberal. He said, because they are opposed to the brutality of the lash, but they do not support equality. That was from where we go from here, folks. John Jeter class War in America, how the elites divide the nation by asking, are you a worker or are you white? After you read that, then get white nationalism, black interests, conservative public policy in the black community by my mentor, Dr. The late great Dr. Ronald Walters, and I mentioned the Dockum drugstore protests. He was Dr. Ron Walters was considered to be the grandfather of, Jon Jeter (01:05:40): I didn't know that Wilmer Leon (01:05:41): of the sit-in movement. Jon Jeter (01:05:42): Did not know (01:05:43): The Dockum lunch counter protests in Wichita, Kansas. He helped to organize before the folks in North Carolina took their lead from the lunch counter protest that he helped. (01:06:01): I did not know that. Wilmer Leon (01:06:02): Yes, yes, yes, yes. Jon Jeter (01:06:03): I did not know that. Wilmer Leon (01:06:04): Alright, so now even I taught John Jeter something today. Now. Now that's a day. That's a day for you. John Jeter, my dear brother. I got to thank you as always for joining me today. Jon Jeter (01:06:16): Thank you, brother. It's been a pleasure. It's been a pleasure. Wilmer Leon (01:06:19): Folks, thank you all so much for listening to the Connecting the Dots podcast with me, Dr. Wimer Leon, and stay tuned for new episodes every week. Also, please follow and subscribe, lie a review, share the show, follow us on social media. You'll find all the links to the show below in the description. And remember that this is where the analysis of politics, culture, and history converge. Because talk without analysis is just chatter. And we don't chatter here on connecting the dots. And folks, get this book. Get this book for the holidays. Get this book. Did I say get the book? Because you need to get the book. We don't chatter here on connecting the dots. See you all again next time. Until then, I'm Dr. Woman Leon. Y'all have a great one. Peace. I'm out Announcer (01:07:15): Connecting the dots with Dr. Wilmer Leon, where the analysis of politics, culture, and history converge.  

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed in 1953 after being convicted of conspiracy to commit espionage for the Soviet Union. Their sons Michael and Robert Meeropol, nee Rosenberg, were 10 and 6 at the time. They are our guests this week. The sons talk about their parents' executions, their lives before and after, the anti-communist climate in the U.S. during the 1950s, the government's case against the Rosenbergs, and their efforts to clear their mother Ethel's record posthumously. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed in 1953 after being convicted of conspiracy to commit espionage for the Soviet Union. Their sons Michael and Robert Meeropol, nee Rosenberg, were 10 and 6 at the time. They are our guests this week. The sons talk about their parents' executions, their lives before and after, the anti-communist climate in the U.S. during the 1950s, the government's case against the Rosenbergs, and their efforts to clear their mother Ethel's record posthumously. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of History Ignited, we explore the case of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, a couple at the center of one of the most infamous spy trials in American history. Convicted of passing atomic secrets to the Soviet Union during the Cold War, their story captivated the world and remains a controversial chapter in U.S. history. We dive into the espionage, the trial, and the consequences, breaking down the complex events for young listeners. Join us as we shed light on this pivotal moment from the era of "We Didn't Start the Fire"! Send us a textThank you for tuning in to this episode of History Ignited" Stay connected with us on social media: Facebook: [History Ignited Podcast](https://www.facebook.com/share/N6fa9tkZds2ufFec/?mibextid=LQQJ4d) Instagram: [@HistoryIgnitedPodcast](https://www.instagram.com/historyignitedpodcast?igsh=cW54a2c5ODMxaTg3&utm_source=qr) YouTube: [@HistoryIgnitedPodcast] (https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYXjJ34xg6UARorGAdpZIb1Tb23loecuc&si=vonyuNae2kfRnvCw) Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast on your favorite platform. See you next time as we continue to explore the fascinating events and people from "We Didn't Start the Fire"!

In today's episode, Joel Rosenberg, and Lynn Rosenberg. We explore the journey of the Rosenberg family and their decision to move to Israel, facing the challenges of following biblical prophecy and being part of a community in the promised land. From their initial thoughts to the adjustments they made and the impact on their family, this episode promises a deeply insightful and moving narrative. Prepare to gain an intimate understanding of what it means to embark on such a profound journey and the ongoing resilience required to thrive in a new cultural and social environment. Stay tuned as we take a fascinating and heartfelt glimpse into the Rosenbergs' decade-long journey in the land of Israel. (00:03) Joel Rosenberg cofounded Joshua Fund to bless Israel.(16:08) Fascinating experience living in Egypt, then Colorado.(18:40) Questioning potential military service and citizenship loyalty.(23:50) Family faced hardships, especially challenging for boys.(29:35) Personal struggle and scripture's perspective on obedience.(35:50) God will bring Jewish people back willingly.(38:57) Struggling with pessimism, found hope in partner.(46:34) Living outside Jerusalem was spiritually beneficial for Jesus.(50:52) Challenges of language learning and life balance.(55:37) Prayer for brokenness to turn people to God.(01:00:18)  Support Joshuafund.com for global charitable contributions. Learn more about The Joshua Fund: JoshuaFund.comMake a tax-deductible donation: Donate | The Joshua FundStock Media provided by DimmySad / Pond5 Verse of the Day: Jeremiah chapter 16:14-16 - “Therefore, behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when it shall no longer be said, ‘As the Lord lives who brought up the people of Israel out of the land of Egypt,' but ‘As the Lord lives who brought up the people of Israel out of the north country and out of all the countries where he had driven them.' For I will bring them back to their own land that I gave to their fathers. “Behold, I am sending for many fishers, declares the Lord, and they shall catch them. And afterward, I will send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain and every hill, and out of the clefts of the rocks.   Prayer Request: Pray for those pains and that brokenness and that uncertainty to draw people to ask God, who are you? Where are you? And to cry out for him because he's not far away. Pray that the Lord would soften hearts and would cause people to cry out to know their God and to know his son, the Messiah Jesus. Pray for the believers in, the Palestinian territories that they would be a God's light, and they would bring hope to their people. Related Episodes: A Pastor's Tale of Faith and Service #206  Why Jewish Israelis are Asking about Jesus & Eternal Life #206 How to Show Love and Support for Israel and Her Neighbors #182 Why Did Joel Move to Israel? #172 Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

One nation under mud! Voicemails, If I Were You, paying it forward; Scotty Season has sprung and the Rosenbergs have nothing but love for the nation. For the animosity they show each other, check out the full unedited episode on their Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/twinnovationFollow Twinnovation on InstagramSend your ideas and inventions to ideas@twinnovation.biz or twinnovationpodcast@gmail.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A history podcast for people who don't think they like history, History on Trial will use the most scandalous and shocking trials of the past to tell the story of America. From the Salem Witch Trials to O.J. Simpson, trials have always revealed hidden truths about our society. History on Trial will dig into these cases, focusing on the real people behind the headlines, and the powerful cultural contexts that shaped the verdicts. We'll dive deep into the grimy underworld of sports betting with the 1919 Black Sox Scandal, investigate mid-century Soviet espionage through the cases of Alger Hiss and the Rosenbergs, and explore the scandalous sex lives of Victorian preachers via the adultery trial of Henry Ward Beecher. Fans of true crime, legal dramas, and history alike will be captivated by the unbelievable true cases that played out in the courtrooms of history. Listen here or on the iHeartRadio app. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Rosenbergs are BACK and Jeff's audio is GOOD! They discuss new years resolutions, starting fires, cruises, and marry me chicken. For an exclusive update on the Portland neighbors saga, check out the full episode at https://www.patreon.com/twinnovationFollow Twinnovation on InstagramSend your ideas and inventions to ideas@twinnovation.biz or twinnovationpodcast@gmail.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today we speak with Martin Siegel, author of the recently published, Judgement and Mercy: The Turbulent Life and Times of the Judge Who Condemned the Rosenbergs about writing a biography over many years, and publishing with the trade division of an academic press. Don't forget to rate and review our show and follow us on all social media platforms here: https://linktr.ee/writingitpodcast

Welcome to a special update episode of Inside the Epicenter, sharing Stories From The Frontlines. In this episode, host Carl Moeller is joined by Joel and Lynn Rosenberg from Jerusalem to discuss how God can use humanitarian aid amid a war crisis to bring hope and healing to the land of Israel. Lynn shares her experiences volunteering with humanitarian aid teams throughout the country, delivering much-needed supplies to displaced families and individuals living in bomb shelters. She recounts touching stories of distributing water, toys, and clothing to those in desperate need. The Rosenbergs also shed light on the full mobilization of believers who have been called up as reservists in the army and the impact it's having on their community. Join us as we delve into the remarkable stories and witness the power of God's love amid crisis.    (1:40) Intense week helping crisis victims and supplying resources. (4:41) Monitoring partners' safety on country-wide trips. (7:44) Soldiers in need of supplies receive assistance. (10:26) Drama-filled drive witnessing rocket attacks in Gaza. (13:21) Supporting Joshua Fund helps fulfill Jesus's call. (17:32) Trusted partners provide logistical support and supplies. (21:02) Pray for TGF volunteers providing aid.   Learn more about The Joshua Fund Make a tax-deductible donation The Joshua Fund Stock Media provided by DimmySad/Pond5   Related Episodes: Challenges for Christian Organizations in the Holy Land #129 Special Update: The Ground War About To Begin #128 Special Update: Israel at War #127 What It's Like Living in a Missile Zone #126 Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

On this day in legal history, October 13, 1952 the Supreme Court denied certiorari in the appeal of the death penalty by Julius and Ethel Rosenberg–each convicted of espionage.Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were American citizens who gained notoriety in the early 1950s for being accused of espionage during the Cold War. They were alleged to have passed atomic secrets to the Soviet Union, a charge that was particularly sensitive given the heightened tensions between the U.S. and the USSR at the time. The couple was arrested in 1950, and their trial took place in 1951. They were convicted of conspiracy to commit espionage, based largely on the testimony of Ethel's brother, David Greenglass, who was also involved but cooperated with authorities to lessen his own sentence.The Rosenbergs were sentenced to death, a penalty that was met with a great deal of controversy both in the United States and internationally. Appeals for clemency were made, citing the lack of definitive evidence and the harshness of the death penalty for a crime that did not result in any direct loss of life. Despite these appeals, they were executed in the electric chair at Sing Sing Correctional Facility in New York on June 19, 1953. They were the first American civilians to be executed for espionage during peacetime, and their case remains a subject of debate to this day.In the years following their execution, new evidence and perspectives have emerged that have led some to question the fairness of their trial and the severity of their sentence. Declassified documents have shown that while Julius was likely involved in some form of espionage, the evidence against Ethel was far less conclusive. Many believe that she was convicted and executed largely to exert pressure on her husband to confess, which he never did.The Rosenberg case has been the subject of numerous books, films, and scholarly articles. It serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of McCarthyism and the excesses of anti-communist sentiment in the United States during the Cold War. The case also raises ethical and legal questions about the use of the death penalty, especially in cases where the evidence is not clear-cut. In 2015, the Rosenbergs' co-defendant, Morton Sobell, who had also been convicted of espionage but was not executed, admitted that he and Julius had been involved in giving military secrets to the Soviets, but he maintained that Ethel was not involved. This has led to renewed calls for Ethel Rosenberg to be exonerated, although no formal steps have been taken to do so.Rite Aid Corp. is reportedly in talks with Bank of America for a loan to support the company through a potential Chapter 11 bankruptcy process. The loan would be asset-based and secured by accounts receivables, inventory, and prescription lists. While Rite Aid is also exploring other options to manage its debt, it is soliciting potential buyers to bid for parts of the business in the event of bankruptcy. The company has over $3 billion in long-term borrowings and is considering a bankruptcy filing to restructure various debts, including opioid liabilities.Rite Aid Seeking Asset-Based Loan to Fund Itself in BankruptcyThe Writers Guild of America (WGA) has struck a deal with Hollywood studios that places restrictions on the use of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in script-writing. This agreement comes after a nearly five-month-long strike by the WGA and aims to address the evolving landscape of copyright law. The deal mandates that studios must disclose any AI-generated material provided to writers and cannot force writers to use AI. It also gives the WGA the right to bar the use of writers' material to train AI models.The U.S. Copyright Office and appellate courts have stated that AI contributions to creative works are not covered by copyright protections. Therefore, studios must be cautious in how they use AI, as undisclosed AI involvement could invalidate a copyright registration, forcing the company to drop any lawsuits and re-register the work. The agreement also aims to protect writers from being replaced by AI or having their wages driven down.The deal reflects broader concerns about AI's role in creative processes and its potential to infringe on human-created content. Legal experts note that tracking AI contributions in a complex creative process like script-writing is a new challenge. Failure to accurately track and disclose AI involvement could lead to legal complications.The agreement is seen as a safeguard against the increasing use of AI in the creative aspects of movie production. However, the rapidly evolving nature of AI technology and the law surrounding it adds a layer of uncertainty to the deal. Legal experts believe that the agreement opens up a lot of gray areas, especially in complex works like movies, making the copyright landscape even more complicated.Writers Guild AI Deal Pushes Studios Down New Copyright PathA federal judge in Montana questioned the state's rationale for imposing a blanket ban on the social media platform TikTok. Judge Donald W. Molloy expressed skepticism about the state's claim that the ban was meant to protect consumer privacy, pointing out inconsistencies with how state officials publicly described the law. The judge also criticized the ban as "paternalistic," questioning why the state hadn't considered more targeted measures to regulate data access by the Chinese government. TikTok and five U.S. content creators have sued Montana, arguing that the law is overly broad and conflicts with federal statutes.State Solicitor General Christian Corrigan argued that the primary aim of the ban was consumer privacy, not national security. However, Judge Molloy found this argument "totally inconsistent" with public statements made by state officials, who seemed more focused on "teaching China a lesson."The ban, which is set to go into effect on January 1, 2024, would subject TikTok and app stores to daily fines of $10,000 if the platform remains available for download in Montana. This is the first such ban that TikTok has challenged in court, although it faces separate lawsuits in Indiana and Utah over content oversight and ties to China.Attorneys representing TikTok and the content creators also argued that the ban would infringe on First Amendment rights and disrupt the livelihoods of creators who rely on the platform for income. The case continues to unfold, but the judge's initial questioning suggests skepticism about the state's arguments for the ban.‘Paternalistic' Montana TikTok Ban Perplexes Judge in HearingCitigroup has received a rare advisory opinion from the Biden administration's chief worker benefits regulator, allowing the bank to prioritize diverse asset managers for its employees' 401(k) plans. This move aims to achieve racial diversity objectives without violating federal benefits laws. The Department of Labor's Employee Benefits Security Administration (EBSA) has been under scrutiny for allegedly favoring environmental, social, and corporate governance (ESG) investing factors, but the agency claims its new rule is neutral on ESG considerations.Citigroup's Racial Equity Program covers some or all asset management fees that diverse companies would charge its employee benefit plans. While plan fiduciaries still have the final say in choosing asset managers, Citigroup's program gives diverse service providers a competitive advantage by lowering costs. EBSA emphasized that fiduciaries must consider multiple factors in their decision-making process.The advisory opinion distinguishes between "settlor" activities related to the formation of plans and fiduciary activities related to the management of plans under the Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA). The funds used to prioritize diverse asset managers come from Citigroup's corporate assets, not from plan assets, which often include participant contributions.The advisory opinion could face challenges, especially as diversity, equity, and inclusion metrics become more intertwined with public narratives on ESG. A Republican-controlled House Committee recently advanced a bill emphasizing that financial management should focus solely on finances, without regard for diversity factors. The advisory opinion is the first issued by EBSA in over three years, possibly due to the contentious public debate and potential litigation surrounding the issue.Citi Blazes New ESG Trails in Boosting Diverse 401(k) ManagersThe U.S. Supreme Court is considering a case that could make it more difficult to challenge racial gerrymandering. The case involves the relocation of 30,000 Black residents from South Carolina's 1st congressional district to another, a move initiated by the state's Republican-led legislature. The case is particularly significant as Democrats aim to win the 1st district in the 2024 congressional elections; Black voters predominantly support Democratic candidates. In 2019, the Supreme Court ruled that federal courts could not intervene in cases of partisan gerrymandering but left racial gerrymandering as illegal.The Court's conservative majority appeared to lean toward the argument that the redistricting was done for partisan advantage rather than racial motives. Civil rights advocates argue that such a ruling would allow states to use political defenses to mask racial motives. A federal three-judge panel had previously blocked the map, stating it violated the U.S. Constitution's 14th and 15th Amendments by reducing the influence of Black voters.To win a racial gerrymandering case, plaintiffs must prove that race was the primary factor in redistricting, even when a strong correlation exists between race and party affiliation. The three-judge panel had supported the plaintiffs, noting that the new map increased the share of white voters while reducing Black voters, a process they termed "bleaching."Legal experts suggest that if the Supreme Court reverses the lower court's decision, future plaintiffs will need to separate race from party more effectively. One method could be to present an alternative map that meets the state's partisan goals without affecting the minority population. However, the Supreme Court's conservative justices seem to believe that such alternative maps are necessary, a point contested by liberal Justice Elena Kagan.US Supreme Court may make it harder to prove racial gerrymandering | Reuters Get full access to Minimum Competence - Daily Legal News Podcast at www.minimumcomp.com/subscribe

On this Thursday edition of Sid & Friends in the Morning, Gabriel and Danielle Rosenberg join Sid in-studio all morning long, as the Rosenberg clan conduct their second annual Dsypraxia DCD America Radiothon here on 77 WABC Radio. We'll be raising money all morning for those living with Dyspraxia to raise awareness for this lifelong hidden disability. Despite being almost as common as ADHD and more common than Autism, the terms “Dyspraxia” and “DCD” are not well known. The Rosenbergs are here to change that. Joseph Abboud, Alex Traiman, Curtis Sliwa, Georgia Mejia, Andrew Napolitano, Bill O'Reilly, Alan Dershowitz and Kristin Terdik join Sid on this special morning of programming on Sid & Friends in the Morning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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    Today on the podcast, Robin and Lester interview author and lawyer Martin Siegel   Guest Bio Martin Siegel's law practice focuses on briefing and arguing complex appeals in federal and state courts. He also handles key motions in trial courts and consults on legal analysis and strategy. Siegel has won appeals in the U.S. Supreme Court, federal appellate courts around the country, and the Texas Supreme Court, and has repeatedly earned recognition from peers.  In 2012, he was elected to the Texas Bar Foundation, a fellowship limited to 0.3% of federal civil appeals | Houston | Law Offices of Martin J. Siege (siegelfirm.com)licensed Texas attorneys each year based on regional peer nomination. The Texas Bar Foundation supports projects providing affordable legal services for underserved communities, promotes professionalism, and educates the public about the justice system. Martin graduated from the University of Texas undergrad and then Harvard Law School.  After graduating from Harvard Law School, Martin J. Siegel was the last law clerk for Judge Irving R. Kaufman, the subject of Martin's new book, who served on the Second Circuit. Martin then served as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York and as Special Counsel on the staff of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee from 2000-2001.  He now practices law in Houston, Texas and teaches American Legal History at the University of Houston Law Center, where he also directs the Appellate Civil Rights Clinic. He also serves on the board of the Anti-Defamation League, Southwest Region, and has drafted state legislative testimony and amicus briefing for the ADL. Martin is also a Senior Editor of Litigation, a quarterly publication of the American Bar Association's Section on Litigation. Links:  Houston | Law Offices of Martin J. Siege (siegelfirm.com) https://www.martinjsiegel.com/ http://www.akintate.com/ https://www.gatriallawyers.net/ See You In Court (seeyouincourtpodcast.org) To learn more about the Georgia Civil Justice Foundation, visit fairplay.org

I discuss some of the resources that influenced this section of the season and recommend some you should consider checking out.  A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music! Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/  Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/ My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Spotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4VSvC0SJYwku2U0awRaNAu?si=3ad0b2fbed2e4864 Military Propaganda: War is a Racket (and Gangsters of Capitalism): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/198259.War_is_a_Racket?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=4M9r61IuSn&rank=1 Afghanistan Papers: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56898213-the-afghanistan-papers Base Nation: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22320467-base-nation Ordinary Men: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/647492.Ordinary_Men Second Thought: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4szttm_e0Ic Military Recruiting Practices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9Fh3aIlq5E Achilles in Vietnam: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6069.Achilles_in_Vietnam Geroge Carlin on Euphemisms and PTSD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuEQixrBKCc Military Conspiracy: Senate Intelligence Committee Report on Torture: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51849952-the-senate-intelligence-committee-report-on-torture McNamara's Folly: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25783307-mcnamara-s-folly?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=7Vcw2osXNo&rank=1 Day of Deceit: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/124851.Day_Of_Deceit The Plot to Seize the Whitehouse: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25313101-the-plot-to-seize-the-white-house Dark Alliance: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40718249-dark-alliance Legacy of Ashes: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/970488.Legacy_of_Ashes Breaking Blue: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/152108.Breaking_Blue Blue Grass Conspiracy: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/171887.The_Bluegrass_Conspiracy I Got a Monster: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51171365-i-got-a-monster?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=VG24NRaibM&rank=1 Three Felonies a Day: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6611240-three-felonies-a-day Discipline and Punish: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/80369.Discipline_and_Punish?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=5mX21TTnTr&rank=1 Foucault on Prisonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFaxgB5TygE&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBJTeNTZtGU&feature=youtu.beBehind the Bastards Policing: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/slavery-mass-murder-and-the-birth-of-american-policing/id1373812661?i=1000478164181 Government Propaganda: Manipulating the Masses: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53232641-manipulating-the-massesThey Thought They Were Free: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/978689.They_Thought_They_Were_Free Gulag Archipelago: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14578213-the-gulag-archipelago-1918-1956-vol-1 Defying Hitler: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/65458.Defying_Hitler Dog Whistle Politics: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17847530-dog-whistle-politics Brave New World: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5129.Brave_New_World 1984: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61439040-1984?ref=nav_sb_ss_3_4 Executing the Rosenbergs: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26594189-executing-the-rosenbergs One Nation Under God: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22928900-one-nation-under-god?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_20 John Lennon vs. The U.S.A.: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29145645-john-lennon-vs-the-u-s-a Parenti's Dark Myths of Empire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOF56wYTl1w Simple Government Conspiracies: COINTELPRO Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjVcS4yGcSY&t=4s Operation LAC (poisoning civilians): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_LAC#:~:text=In%20St.,station%20wagons%2C%20and%20via%20planes. MK Ultra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_-ek5CsTGc  Operation Condor HT Lingual Pentagon Papers WikiLeaks The Plot to Kill King: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25898337-the-plot-to-kill-king Creature from Jekyll Island: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/66499.The_Creature_from_Jekyll_Island American Conspiracies and Cover-Ups: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45011796-american-conspiracies-and-cover-ups Unit 731 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMq-fApmzts https://www.fepow-community.org.uk/arthur_lane/html/biological_warfare_unit_731_in.htmSupport of PolPot up through 1993 in UN seat: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1980/09/16/us-to-support-pol-pot-regime-for-un-seat/58b8b124-7dd7-448f-b4f7-80231683ec57/ Systemic Government Conspiracy: Snowden's No Place to Hide https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18213403-no-place-to-hide How Europe Underdeveloped Africa: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40630.How_Europe_Underdeveloped_Africa Capitalism and Slavery: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/178651.Capitalism_Slavery Every lb of sugar 2oz human flesh. Family using 5lb sugar a week save one man in 21 months. Yet who stopped eating sugar? Very few people. Just the fearless Benjamin Lay - another story you should check out.Pathologies of Power: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10232.Pathologies_of_Power Radio Free Dixie: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/448669.Radio_Free_Dixie Waiting for an Echo: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48695596-waiting-for-an-echoA Knock at Midnight: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52654711-a-knock-at-midnight The Pinochet File: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/250722.The_Pinochet_File Fresh Fruit Broken Bodies: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16145154-fresh-fruit-broken-bodies New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26593431-the-new-confessions-of-an-economic-hit-man Secrets by Ellsberg: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/86433.Secrets The Terror Factory: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13591775-the-terror-factory Poison Spring: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17978105-poison-spring We Sell Drugs: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21877066-we-sell-drugs Want to Read: Theatre of Power: https://www.amazon.com/Theatre-Power-Art-Diplomatic-Signalling/dp/0582494761 The Business of War: https://www.amazon.com/Business-War-David-Parrott-ebook/dp/B00INYMIEG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2GZ173OD92AUG&keywords=the+business+of+war&qid=1685459743&sprefix=the+business+of+w%2Caps%2C277&sr=8-1 Uncle Sam Wants You: https://www.amazon.com/Uncle-Sam-Wants-You-American/dp/0199734798/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YIACVBRLYF5X&keywords=uncle+sam+wants+you&qid=1685459801&sprefix=uncle+sam+wants+yo%2Caps%2C243&sr=8-1 Democracy's Prisoner: https://www.amazon.com/Democracys-Prisoner-Eugene-Great-Dissent/dp/0674057201/ref=sr_1A Season of Inquiry: https://www.amazon.com/Season-Inquiry-Revisited-Committee-Confronts/dp/0700621474/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1BGP5K8YJLG9P&keywords=a+season+of+inquiry&qid=1685459870&sprefix=a+season+of+inqui%2Caps%2C657&sr=8-1 How We Advertised America: https://www.loc.gov/item/20010648/ The Deprogram Podcast: Conspiracies they told you weren't real: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-41-the-conspiracies-they-told-you-werent-real/id1596666465?i=1000576596392 Other: Money Game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ivQwwgW4OY&feature=youtu.beGovernment Lies to Families about Deceased: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7i-YxOjjiA&feature=youtu.beThe Pentacostal Genocidal, U.S. Client Dictator: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/02/gen-efrain-rios-montt-obituary  Thanks to our monthly supporters Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This class covers the 1950's framing and execution of comrades Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, by the US government and the history of the campaign that is still continuing to reopen the case and bring justice for them. This comes at a time of heightened repression of communists and anti-imperialists as another Cold War looms. Every year we pay tribute to the Rosenbergs. So join us and learn their story. Connect with PSMLS: https://linktr.ee/peoplesschool Sign up to join the PSMLS mailing list and get notified of new Zoom classes every Tuesday and Thursday: http://eepurl.com/h9YxPb Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction 2:00 The Atom Bomb Hoax and the Start of the Cold War 19:20 Q&A 1 39:00 Film Excerpt - Can the Rosenberg Case Be Reopened? 51:55 If We Die - Poem by Ethel Rosenberg 53:10 The Rosenberg-Sobell Case: A Prosecution Fraud 1:03:10 Q&A 2 1:18:30 Film Excerpt 2 - Can the Rosenberg Case Be Reopened? 1:21:50 Letter to Congress on Reopening the Rosenberg Case 1:25:25 Conclusion

Dr. Calder Walton, assistant director of the Applied History Project and Intelligence Project at Harvard University's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, has become one of the world's most highly respected intelligence historians. His most recent book, Spies: The Epic Intelligence War Between East and West, describes the long history of Russian spying--placing it into the wider context of the hundred-year espionage war between the East and West. And this gives him a remarkable perspective on how Soviet and Russian operations against the West have been portrayed in movies and television.David Priess spoke with Calder about his path to researching and writing within the intelligence history subfield; the story of the Mitrokhin archive; the Cambridge Five; the Rosenbergs; Oleg Penkovsky; Aldrich Ames; Robert Hanssen; Russian disinformation campaigns in historical context; enduring popular myths about the master recruits of the KGB; and much more.Among the works mentioned in this episode:The article "How Oppenheimer's Atomic Bomb Secrets Were Really Stolen by Soviet Russia," Fortune (July 24, 2023), by Calder WaltonThe play Hamilton and book Alexander Hamilton by Ron ChernowThe book The Sword and the Shield by Christopher AndrewThe book The Mitrokhin Archive by Christopher Andrew and Vasili MitrokhinThe book Defend the Realm: The Authorized History of MI5 by Christopher AndrewThe book The Secret History of MI6 by Keith JefferyThe book Behind the Enigma: The Authorized History of GCHQ by John FerrisThe book Empire of Secrets by Calder WaltonThe book Spies -- digital expansion websiteThe book Spies, Lies, and Algorithms by Amy ZegartChatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dr. Calder Walton, assistant director of the Applied History Project and Intelligence Project at Harvard University's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, has become one of the world's most highly respected intelligence historians. His most recent book, Spies: The Epic Intelligence War Between East and West, describes the long history of Russian spying--placing it into the wider context of the hundred-year espionage war between the East and West. And this gives him a remarkable perspective on how Soviet and Russian operations against the West have been portrayed in movies and television.David Priess spoke with Calder about his path to researching and writing within the intelligence history subfield; the story of the Mitrokhin archive; the Cambridge Five; the Rosenbergs; Oleg Penkovsky; Aldrich Ames; Robert Hanssen; Russian disinformation campaigns in historical context; enduring popular myths about the master recruits of the KGB; and much more.Among the works mentioned in this episode:The article "How Oppenheimer's Atomic Bomb Secrets Were Really Stolen by Soviet Russia," Fortune (July 24, 2023), by Calder WaltonThe play Hamilton and book Alexander Hamilton by Ron ChernowThe book The Sword and the Shield by Christopher AndrewThe book The Mitrokhin Archive by Christopher Andrew and Vasili MitrokhinThe book Defend the Realm: The Authorized History of MI5 by Christopher AndrewThe book The Secret History of MI6 by Keith JefferyThe book Behind the Enigma: The Authorized History of GCHQ by John FerrisThe book Empire of Secrets by Calder WaltonThe book Spies -- digital expansion websiteThe book Spies, Lies, and Algorithms by Amy Zegart Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit andrewsullivan.substack.comMoynihan is one-third of The Fifth Column — the sharp, hilarious podcast he does with Kmele Foster and Matt Welch. He was previously the cultural news editor for The Daily Beast, a senior editor at Reason, and a correspondent and managing editor of Vice.It's a fun summer chat with an old friend. We recorded the episode a few weeks ago, on July 24. For two clips — on the conspiracy theories of RFK Jr., and the deepening rift within the Israeli government — pop over to our YouTube page.Other topics: his Boston upbringing with a “union guy” father and being the first college grad in his family; on the agony of writing as a profession; on the “laziness” of many top writers; on flawless ones like Michael Lewis and John Updike; Moynihan's review of a new book on Orwell; why Animal Farm was passed over by publishers; Orwell's distrust of intellectuals and losing many friends on the left; his love of Englishness; wondering how he would react to mass migration and postmodernism; Kingsley Amis and his cohort being the original “lol alt-right”; Enoch Powell and his “Rivers of Blood”; the elections in Spain and the far-right party's floundering; immigration in Sweden; Brexit; violence against Venezuelan immigrants in Brazil and Colombia; why Islamism is barely discussed anymore; Trump and DeSantis on Social Security; the debate over sex changes for kids; the success of the gay rights movement through persuasion; Brendan Eich; the propaganda around Covid; what Moynihan calls the “the Mis/Disinformation Industrial Complex”; lab leak; Elon Musk; the AIDS denialism of Duesberg and Maggiore; Holocaust deniers; Marty Peretz; Kissinger; Vidal; Hitch of course; Oppenheimer and McCarthyism; Alger Hiss and the Rosenbergs; Hollywood's double-standard when it comes to pro-communist films; “Angels in America”; the big increase in black deaths after BLM in 2020; amnesia over Afghanistan; and the first time I ever did poppers. Good times.Browse the Dishcast archive for another conversation you might enjoy (the first 102 episodes are free in their entirety — subscribe to get everything else). Coming up: Vivek Ramaswamy on his vision for America, Sohrab Ahmari on his new book Tyranny Inc., and Freddie deBoer on his new book How Elites Ate the Social Justice Movement. Also, in the fall: Ian Buruma, David Brooks, Spencer Klavan, Leor Sapir, Martha Nussbaum, Pamela Paul and Matthew Crawford. A stellar roster! Please send any guest recs and pod dissent to dish@andrewsullivan.com.

In June of 2023, Donald Trump was charged with 37 counts of alleged mishandling of classified documents, as well as obstruction of justice. Of those 37 counts, 31 are alleged violations of the Espionage Act. Now, since its passage after World War I, thousands of people have been investigated for violating the Espionage Act, including Julian Assange, Daniel Ellsberg, and Donald Trump. However, only two people have been executed for violating it during peacetime; Ethel and Julius Rosenberg. This episode features Anne Sebba, author of Ethel Rosenberg: A Cold War Tragedy, and Jake Kobrick, Associate Historian at the Federal Judicial Center. It explains the Espionage Act of 1917, the accusations against the Rosenbergs, the twists and turns of their trial, and their execution in 1953. 

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In 1950 the cold war was warming up and Americans feared communism as if it was the plague. An anti-espionage program called Code Name Venona was used to decrypt Soviet cables in the 1940's. Those cables would expose a large spy ring and eventually a married couple would be put to death in 1953 for their involvement. This divided the nation between people who felt the punishment was just and necessary to prevent more espionage and others who felt the couple were scapegoats used to suppress communism in America. Listen along as we break down the case, 70 years after the infamous executions of the Rosenbergs. Music by GioeleFazzeri from Pixabay

In 1950 the cold war was warming up and Americans feared communism as if it was the plague. An anti-espionage program called Code Name Venona was used to decrypt Soviet cables in the 1940's. Those cables would expose a large spy ring and eventually a married couple would be put to death in 1953 for their involvement. This divided the nation between people who felt the punishment was just and necessary to prevent more espionage and others who felt the couple were scapegoats used to suppress communism in America. Listen along as we break down the case, 70 years after the infamous executions of the Rosenbergs. Music by GioeleFazzeri from Pixabay

* I am releasing this episode on the 70th anniversary of their execution, at 8:00 PM EST, the time at which the Julius and Ethel were executed. Pre-Episode Introduction0:00:00 - Introduction and Robert's story0:08:40 - Manichean nature of propaganda0:12:40 - Government destroys culture, not just resistance0:14:35 - Timing of this episodeInterview with Robert0:18:05 - Propaganda in the case of Robert's parents0:23:35 - Role of fear and othering in propaganda0:31:45 - Why was it important for propaganda that the kids of the Rosenbergs were targeted as threats?0:42:45 - Propaganda in the media as a sedative that gets people to work within the system rather than buck it0:56:10 - How can we know truth in a world saturated by propaganda?1:04:50 - Why can't the government bring itself to admit they're wrong?1:16:05 - Why do we need activists today if we solved discrimination with Civil Rights?1:26:10 - Resource recommendations and plugs A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music! Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/  Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/ My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Propaganda Season Outline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xa4MhYMAg2Ohc5Nvya4g9MHxXWlxo6haT2Nj8Hlws8M/edit?usp=sharing  Episode Outline/Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXPgp06Xp5Hc-IlB3x81Fwi6ZCCHL4uu2Xs8Wu1rKJs/edit?usp=sharing YouTube version of our interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbzPXxJ2PTo PRE-RELEASE EPISODE 1 INTRODUCTION: https://share.transistor.fm/s/4fec1099 PRE-RELEASE EPISODE 2 HOW PROPAGANDA FUNCTIONS: https://share.transistor.fm/s/7f9c0a8c PRE-RELEASE EPISODE 3 THE FALSE PROPHET OF PROPAGANDA: https://share.transistor.fm/s/89025034 An Execution in the Family (Robert's Book): https://www.amazon.com/Execution-Family-One-Sons-Journey-ebook/dp/B003J5UJJK/ref=sr_1_1?crid=252RAVF2FZJCL&keywords=an+execution+in+the+family&qid=1650622614&s=digital-text&sprefix=an+execution+in+the+family%2Cdigital-text%2C193&sr=1-1  Executing the Rosenbergs: https://www.amazon.com/Executing-Rosenbergs-Death-Diplomacy-World-ebook/dp/B015P7A066/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1IUJQLH31QLL9&keywords=executing+the+rosenbergs&qid=1650622585&s=digital-text&sprefix=executing+the+rosenberg%2Cdigital-text%2C190&sr=1-1  Rosenberg Fund for Children: https://www.rfc.org/ Ellul's "Propaganda": https://www.amazon.com/Propaganda-Formation-Mens-Attitudes/dp/B08YJ3V7F4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=GGCP6WP3WUXW&keywords=ellul+propaganda&qid=1650622694&sprefix=ellul+propagand%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1 Chomsky on Propaganda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suFzznCHjko The Radical King (on King and Communism): https://www.amazon.com/The-Radical-King-audiobook/dp/B0799ZNCQQ/ref=sr_1_39?crid=1FHIRH7P45O7X&keywords=martin+luther+king&qid=1650620746&sprefix=martin+luther+kin%2Caps%2C201&sr=8-39 "Strange Fruit" sung by Billie Holiday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Web007rzSOI "The Rosenbergs" poem by W.E.B. DuBois: https://minervasperch.wordpress.com/2020/12/11/the-rosenbergs-june-1953-by-w-e-b-du-bois/  Robert Williams and Radio Free Dixie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Dixie Negroes with Guns by Robert Williams: https://www.amazon.com/Negroes-Guns-Robert-F-Williams/dp/1773230522 Slavery into the 1940's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4kI2h3iotA Slavery into Modernity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OXbJHsKB3I Terror Factory: https://www.amazon.com/Terror-Factory-Inside-Manufactured-Terrorism/dp/1632460653/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1RHU33LH9VVFD&keywords=terror+factory&qid=1650622428&s=books&sprefix=terror+factory%2Cstripbooks%2C211&sr=1-1 Nixon's War at Home: https://www.amazon.com/Nixons-War-Home-Guerrillas-Counterterrorism/dp/B09HVC31CS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3DHD4VELWJKKK&keywords=nixon%27s+war+at+home&qid=1650622483&s=books&sprefix=nixon%27s+war+at+ho%2Cstripbooks%2C194&sr=1-1 Not a Nation of Immigrants: https://www.amazon.com/Not-Nation-Immigrants-Colonialism-Supremacy-ebook/dp/B08K7QKCCK/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1650622505&sr=1-1 Yippie Girl: https://www.amazon.com/Yippie-Girl-Exploits-Protest-Defeating-ebook/dp/B09MS4YS68/ref=sr_1_1?crid=276EC2B44V265&keywords=yippie+girl&qid=1650622525&s=digital-text&sprefix=yippie+girl%2Cdigital-text%2C190&sr=1-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters Laverne Miller Jesse Killion Michael de Nijs ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A SPECIAL TRUMP INDICTMENT WEEKEND EDITION; EPISODE 224: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN A-Block (1:41) SPECIAL COMMENT: I am sorry only sorry the 37 counts in the indictment of Donald Trump is not a capital case. It is that bad, and he will remain a threat to every man, woman and child in this country as long as he lives. Worse yet, the running joke yesterday was Trump spilled all of our secrets - on the floor at Mar-a-Lago. How could all of the foreign spy organizations have NOT stolen them? How do we know they didn't? How can we be certain? “The classified documents Trump stored in his boxes included information regarding defense and weapons capabilities of both the United States and foreign countries,” reads the indictment. The next sentence is worse. Trump had documents detailing “United States nuclear programs.” There are references to a document about American nuclear weaponry and another about another country's nuclear capacity. The next sentence is WORSE. He had “potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack.” The next sentence is WORSE. He had America's “plans for possible retaliation to a FOREIGN attack.” All that keeps us safe from countries that still harbor dreams of attacking this country – North Korea, Russia, maybe China… all that could have ENABLED those countries to transform those dreams into battle plans… all of that, Donald Trump stole and kept. And kept near the club pool. And near the liquor supply closet. And other documents were kept in the bathroom, next to the toilet. It. Is. That. Bad. It is as bad as the Rosenbergs, as bad as the other nuclear spies of the 1950's, as bad as Rick Ames and Robert Hannssen. It is, in fact, worse. B-Block (29:07) THE REST OF THIS PODCAST IS REPEATED FROM FRIDAY'S EDITION: Donald Trump has been indicted on seven charges and the foremost of them is  a violation of the Espionage Act, specifically designed to send to prison for ten years, someone who was legally allowed to possess UN-classified National Defense Information, but refused to return it to the proper government authorities. It's 18 US Code 793-D. It fits the allegations against Trump better than any of his suits. It erases all his stated defenses and excuses, like Trump's belief he owned a magic wand of declassification, and a new one posited in just the last few days that he was the president so of COURSE he had the right to possess defense information. It describes a crime involving information that ISN'T classified, which the defendant at some point HAD the right to possess. Trump lawyer James Trusty says even he hasn't even seen the actual indictment but only had broad strokes painted to him, and mentioned the Willful retention part of the Espionage Act (confirming 18 US Code 793-D), multiple charges about false statements, conspiracy, and quote “several obstruction-based charges” including witness tampering. At approximately 7 PM Eastern Daylight Time on Thursday June 8, 2023, his attorneys were informed by the Department of Justice by PHONE, and HE was informed by those attorneys, that Trump had been indicted in Miami on seven separate SEALED counts of criminal conduct none of them yet formally revealed to the public but clearly pertaining to the classified and defense documents he stole and kept in his home and office at Mar-a-Lago and reportedly including charges of Illegal Retention of National Defense Information, Conspiracy To Obstruct Justice, False Statements to government investigators. Seven counts. For context: the usual number of indictments for former presidents or current presidential candidates is… approximately… zero. CBS News is reporting that for all his bravado, Trump reacted to the indictments with anger because Trump had quote “people in his inner circle who reassured him for months that it was very unlikely to happen.” And this momentous day in history is capped by the worst home video ever recorded. It is a masterpiece of missteps. On the Rushmore of Rushed-Work. A new high in low. Trump posted it at 7:57, from his golf club in Bedminster New Jersey, he is standing in front of a large painting, seemingly depicting a White House office scene from the late 19th Century. Trump has been positioned directly under a spotlight of some kind so his Flock of Seagulls combover that he has honed to exactly his preferred shade of spray-on Gold Rust-O-Leum has been bleached white and it looks like a yarmulke that has slid forward towards his bright white eyebrows. He is also perfectly placed in front of the painting in such a way that a man shown standing in the painting now appears to be one foot tall and standing ON TRUMP'S SHOULDER. And were that not stupid enough, he is twirling his mustache like Snidely Whiplash just back from tying Sweet Nell to the train tracks. It's startlingly fitting.  C-Block (49:40) POSTSCRIPTS TO THE NEWS: SCOTUS shocks with voting rights decision that could tip House to Democrats; Chris Licht is gone but so are CNN's ad revenues; We cross our 10 millionth download! (52:00) THE WORST PERSONS IN THE WORLD: Why bash Gene Simmons because he knows about the politics of Northern Ireland? You can still taste the air on the Atlantic seaboard but Fox will still mock it all. And OF COURSE George Santos's lawyer went to the Capitol on January 6th!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

With Trump's federal indictment around his hoarding of classified documents, we thought it'd be good to repost this episode from September. Enjoy! Donald Trump might finally be in real trouble, because of . . .  archivists? Green and Red shows the love to archivists and librarians! We had a good discussion in this episode about the way national security  documents are classified, who can see them, how they're de-classified,  and Trump's theft of vital top secret documents that prompted the FBI to search Mar-a-Largo. With the Cold War, the government, the National Security State, created a  new system of classification, official secrets and surveillance. It was  done to prevent spies and foreign governments from gaining access to high-level secrets and it was always used against the Left--the Rosenbergs, Daniel Ellsberg, Julian Assange, Reality Winner, etc.  It's impossible to imagine that the Americans who created this system thought that a former  U.S. president would be the target of an official investigation for taking and possibly sharing such secrets with a foreign government, but  here we are. We also discussed the way that even significant segments of the GOP and  conservative media--such as Bill Barr and Fox News--have been  emphasizing this story and Trump's misdeeds. And at the end we paid tribute to a legend of the Left, the late Barbara Ehrenreich. --------------------------------------------------------- Links// Can Trump Just Declare Nuclear Secrets Unclassified?  (https://bit.ly/3RE0Jpj) America's secrets: Trump's unprecedented disregard of norms (https://bit.ly/3LbP7aK) G&R Links// G&R:The Military vs. Donald J. Trump  (https://apple.co/3cDUso8) G&R: The Coup That Wasn't (https://bit.ly/RulingClassGandR) G&R: The Capitol Hill Riots and the Ruling Class (https://bit.ly/RiotsRulingClassGandR) G&R: Baseball and Bosses vs. the Georgia GOP (https://bit.ly/CorpResistGandR) Follow Green and Red// G&R Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast Check out our rad website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/ Donate to Green and Red Podcast// Become a Patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969).  “Green and Red  Blues"  by Moody.  Editing by Isaac.

Dr. Joan Rosenberg, the author of "90 Seconds to a Life You Love" joins us for episode 45 and shares part of her personal journey from childhood that inspired her to pursue emotional mastery. The desire for confidence, authenticity and belonging lies within our capacity to sit with both pleasant and unpleasant emotions and Joan Rosenberg PhD teaches us how to do that in this episode.  We review the Rosenberg Reset which lays out the steps towards emotional confidence and why congruence is so essential to our wellbeing. This podcast episode is ripe with insight, moments you won't want to miss and will leave you feeling more empowered to live life more fully.  Joan I. Rosenberg, PhD, creator of Emotional Mastery™ and Emotional Mastery Training™, is a highly regarded expert psychologist, master clinician, trainer and consultant. As a cutting edge psychologist who is known as an innovative thinker, trainer and speaker, Joan has shared her life-changing ideas and models for emotional mastery, change and personal growth in professional and educational seminars, psychotherapy sessions and graduate psychology teaching. https://drjoanrosenberg.com/joans-story/ We cover: Dr. Rosenbergs early childhood and how it shaped her sense of belonging  Why emotional confidence was something Dr. Rosenberg realized early on in life would help her wade through life's ups and downs  Who her early influences were  The 90 second rule of emotions How we can make use of feelings and emotions  Why pleasant feelings/sensations are difficult to sit with  How we can practice the Rosenberg Reset to master unpleasant feelings  What type of pleasant feelings are difficult for people and why What a compliment really means and why it's important to accept them  Grief and 3 recommended practices to work with it  The importance of congruence in our inner and outer worlds Why speaking up is the pathway towards emotional confidence  How and when Dr. Rosenberg recommends we speak up  Why insights usually follow expression  Grief: how to embrace the relationship even if the person has passed on  Referenced:  Dr. Daniel Siegel  Katie and Gay Hendricks Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor's book, "A Stoke of Insight"   Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast.   

Summary Dr. Alexis Albion (LinkedIn, Twitter) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss amazing artifacts with amazing stories from SPY's newest pop-up exhibit: “Secrets Revealed: Highlights from the Grant Verstandig Collection.” What You'll Learn Intelligence Casablanca's spy connection Lasting effects of the Rosenberg trial Women in Intelligence WWII covert operations Reflections What makes a story timeless? The human dimension of history And much, much more … Quote of the Week “To us, that might be the Rosenbergs – These sort of incredible historic figures from the Cold War Intelligence. But to Mike Meeropol, it's his mom and dad. So, I think it's a really human story as well. This letter makes recommendations about their sentencing, about life and death, and again, for me it evokes that really human dimension about whether or not this mother might have lived.” – Dr. Alexis Albion. Resources  *SpyCasts* Hitler's Trojan Horse – Nazi Intelligence with Nigel West (2023) Honey Trapped: Sex, Betrayal & Love – with Henry Schlesinger (2022) Amazon to Darien, Atlantic to Pacific – Intelligence in Colombia with former Head of its Navy Admiral Hernando Wills (2022) My Life Looking at Spies &the Media with Paul Lashmar (2021) *Beginner Resources* Soviet Spy Scandal: Who Were the Rosenbergs?, L. Davidson, HistoryHit (2022) [Article] Casablanca in 2 Minutes, YouTube (2019) [Video] Who was the real Mata Hari?, N. Barber, BBC Culture (2017) [Article] How D-Day Was Fought From The Sea, Imperial War Museum (n.d.) [Article] *Artifacts Discussed* Mata Hari Pencil Sketch (ca. 1905) German Bombing Map, WWII (1941) Victor Lazlos Prop Passport (ca. 1942) The Neptune Monograph (ca. 1944) J. Edgar Hoover Letter, FBI (1951) *Primary Resources* Letter from Sophie Rosenberg to Mamie Eisenhower, Eisenhower Presidential Library (1953) Letter from Clyde Miller to Dwight Eisenhower Urging Clemency for the Rosenbergs, Eisenhower Presidential Library (1953) Response from Dwight Eisenhower to Clyde Miller, Eisenhower Presidential Library (1953) The Clydebank Blitz, National Records of Scotland (1941) *Wildcard Resource(s)* The classic quote from Casablanca, “Here's looking at you, kid” is ranked #4 on the American Film Institute's Top 100 Movie Quotes. In fact, four quotes from the movie made it onto the list – Can you guess what the others are?

SPIES! COMMIES!!! THE ELECTRIC CHAIR!!!?!?!?!?

Since its passage after World War I, thousands of people have been investigated for violating the Espionage Act, including Julian Assange, Daniel Ellsberg, and Donald Trump. However, only two people have been executed for violating it during peacetime; Ethel and Julius Rosenberg. This episode features Anne Sebba, author of Ethel Rosenberg: A Cold War Tragedy, and Jake Kobrick, Associate Historian at the Federal Judicial Center. It explains the espionage act, the accusations against the Rosenbergs, the twists and turns of their trial, and their execution in 1953. Like our work? Click this link to support it with a donation today. 

After the Rosenbergs' death sentence is announced, protests erupt around the world. Famous figures, including Einstein and the Pope, weigh in. But Julius and Ethel's conviction would never be overturned. They would die by electric chair in 1953. The questions and controversies around their trial — one of the most sensational in history — would remain: Why was the death penalty ever on the table for a conspiracy charge? And how did Ethel's fate come to rest on her own brother's false testimony? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Tuesday, March 29, 2022. Stand Up for Your Country. Tonight's rundown: Inflation is killing Americans and its something that Democrats can't ignore much longer if they want to have a chance in November  January 6th Committee wants to do everything they can to make sure that Donald Trump is not a contender in 2024 Bill speaks with Glenn Beck about his new book The NFL will now require every team to hire a woman or a person of color to their offensive coaching teams This Day in History, 1951: The Rosenbergs are convicted of espionage  Final Thought: Bill's sugar update  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

March 29, 1951. The world is waiting for the jury's verdict. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg have been accused of spying for the Soviet Union, conspiring to send atomic secrets to America's enemy in the Cold War. Ethel and Julius are tried in court together, and after the jury finds both Rosenbergs guilty, they receive the same punishment – the death penalty. But while they were treated the same, these two individuals have very different stories. Today, who was Ethel Rosenberg, the only woman executed for espionage in U.S. history? And why is her guilt still a topic of debate today? Special thanks to Anne Sebba, author of Ethel Rosenberg: An American Tragedy; Michael and Robert Meeropol, the sons of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg; and Steven Usdin, journalist and author of Engineering Communism: How Two Americans Spied for Stalin and Founded the Soviet Silicon Valley. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.