Podcasts about Spinnaker

DJ Tai returns with nearly two hours of soulful beauties, weaving through gospel, vocal house, and deep uplifting grooves to light up your Friday. Expect emotive vocals, jazzy undertones, and peak-time warmth that's pure House Finesse.

As April 2025 marks the 40th anniversary of the Arm architecture, I am re-releasing my episode with Steve Furber. What began as an ambitious project in a small corner of Cambridge, U.K., has grown into the world's most widely adopted computing architecture, now powering billions of devices – from sensors, smartphones and laptops to vehicles, datacenters and beyond.It was at 3pm on 26th April 1985, the chip that led to the world's first commercial RISC processor powered up... and changed the world!Steve Furber is a seminal computer scientist, mathematician and hardware designer whose work includes the BBC Microcomputer and the ARM 32-bit RISC microprocessor which can be found in over 100 billion devices today.Steve studied both Maths followed by a PhD in Aerodynamics at Cambridge University before joining Herman Hauser and Chris Curry at Acorn Computers. For the next decade, he would work with a first-class team of engineers and designers to revolutionise the home computer market before he and Sophie Wilson went on to design the ARM processor with a relatively small team and budget and with little inkling of the consequence it might bring to the world.In 1990, Steve left Acorn moved to Manchester where he is now Professor of Computer Engineering at the university there. He was charged with leading research into asynchronous systems, low-power electronics and neural engineering which  led to the SpiNNaker project - a super computer incorporating a million ARM processors which are optimised for computational neuroscience. He is basically trying to reverse engineer the brain – a lofty ambition even by his own admission.In this wide-ranging conversation, we discuss Steve's life journey from studying maths with professors such as the famed John Conway and Sir James Lighthill to the highs and lows of building the BBC Micro and the story behind the ARM 32-bit RISC microprocessor.I thoroughly enjoyed talking to Steve and am overly excited about his SpiNNaker project which we also discuss today.Enjoy!--------------Steve Furber info / SpiNNaker info / Micro Men filmDanielle on Twitter @daniellenewnham and  Instagram @daniellenewnham   / Newsletter Watch Steve and Sophie talk about those early arm days tomorrow - buy your tickets here.

Four more years. That's how long we're going to have to wait for KiwiRail's new interisland ferries. But I reckon it will turn out being longer than that. The Government says it will be December 2029. By then, we will have had two elections. But I don't think it will happen in that timeframe, because I listened this morning to someone who knows a bit about this. Mark Thompson's his name. He was in charge of the Government's ferry ministerial advisory group. He reckons the Government is a bit on the optimistic side, thinking the ferries can be here in four years' time. He was talking this morning about decarbonisation within the maritime sector creating huge, worldwide demand for new ships. As he puts it, he thinks the Government will need its spinnaker up and calm seas to meet the deadline, because of what's happening internationally. Spinnaker up and a calm sea. A wing and a prayer. Fingers crossed. Sounds exactly like the way we do infrastructure here in New Zealand, doesn't it? I thought Mark Thompson sounded pretty unimpressed with the announcement. That will be because the Government has ignored his committee's advice to not go with ferries capable of carrying rail wagons. His advice was that ferries that could only carry trucks would be cheaper. But Winston, of course, was all-for ferries that can carry rail wagons from the get-go. So maybe Mark Thompson's nose is out of joint a bit. But I'm listening to what he has to say. Because he's the guy who looked into this whole ferry thing after Finance Minister Nicola Willis pulled the plug on the former Labour government's iReX project. Winston Peters isn't buying any talk about delays though and says the new ferries will be here by the end of 2029. But when you dig further into his announcement yesterday, you see that he's talking about the ferries being no frills, on one hand, but also saying that many of the costs he's cutting will need to be paid for somehow in the future. And these are the costs for the on-land facilities at Picton and Wellington – which he's suggesting will have to be covered by the ports themselves. He's saying that investment is needed at Picton, but he reckons the facilities in Wellington have got another 30 years in them. Again, doesn't that sound so familiar when it comes to infrastructure in this country? “We can get away with what we've got for a bit longer” – the same for the ferries themselves. The ones that keep clapping out. As for the new ships - if we do end up competing with the rest of the world for new vessels because of a global influx of orders, we could end up waiting more than four years. That's why I'll believe it when I see it. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

UNF features a student-operated media service, the Spinnaker. The platform features a digital news media service, social media, campus televison, and a campus FM radio station. Makalya Hayes, the Creative Services Director, and Jack Griffis, the radio General Manager, join JMN to share how they got involved in student media, and what it means to them!

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career ✓ Claim : Read the notes at at podcastnotes.org. Don't forget to subscribe for free to our newsletter, the top 10 ideas of the week, every Monday --------- Seth Godin is a legend. He's a marketer, teacher, entrepreneur, and author of more than 20 books, including Purple Cow, Permission Marketing, and Linchpin. He also writes one of the most popular and longest-running blogs in the world (approaching publishing 10,000 in a row!) and continues to shape how we think about marketing, brand, product, and creating lasting change in the world. In our conversation, we discuss:• How to build remarkable products that spread• The four critical strategic choices that determine your future• How to develop good taste and high standards• The role of tension in great strategy• How Seth used Claude to write his newest book• Much more—Brought to you by:• DX—A platform for measuring and improving developer productivity• Vanta—Automate compliance. Simplify security• Paragon—Ship every SaaS integration your customers want—Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/seth-godins-tactics-for-building-remarkable-products—Where to find Seth Godin:• Blog: http://seths.blog/• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethgodin• Website: https://www.sethgodin.com—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Seth's background(05:17) Understanding good taste and upholding high standards(08:09) Become the best at whatever you do(09:48) Seth's journey as a product manager(14:09) What people often get wrong when building products(16:00) Building a brand in the age of AI(19:04) Using AI to enhance writing(22:40) Four critical elements for an effective strategy(27:38) The role of tension in strategy(29:15) The concept of the purple cow(33:11) "Safe is risky"(34:56) The power of systems(37:07) Better waves make better surfers(38:10) Rebranding vs. re-logoing(43:07) Empathetic leadership(44:14) Conclusion and farewell—Referenced:• Seth Godin on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2024/03/20/seth-godin-3/• Persuasive communication and managing up | Wes Kao (Maven, Seth Godin, Section4): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/persuasive-communication-wes-kao• Spinnaker: https://spinnaker.io• Ray Bradbury: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Bradbury• Arthur C. Clarke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke• Isaac Asimov: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Asimov• Roger Zelazny: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Zelazny• Herbie Hancock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbie_Hancock• Fahrenheit 451 (game): https://www.filfre.net/2013/09/fahrenheit-451-the-game/• RTFM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM#• Intercom: https://www.intercom.com• Claude: https://claude.ai• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com• Steam: https://store.steampowered.com• P.F. Flyers: https://pfflyers.com• Steve Blank's website: https://steveblank.com• Marissa Mayer on X: https://x.com/marissamayer• Jaguar unveils new logo ahead of electric relaunch: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgr0pw00n7qo• IHOP Becomes IHOb, the International House of ... Burgers: https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618844977/ihop-becomes-ihob-the-international-house-of-burgers• Oreo's Super Bowl Power-Outage Tweet Was 18 Months in the Making: https://www.businessinsider.com/oreos-super-bowl-power-outage-tweet-was-18-months-in-the-making-2013-3• Tesla's New ‘Ludicrous Mode' Makes the Model S a Supercar: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/teslas-new-ludicrous-mode-makes-model-s-supercar—Recommended books:• This Is Strategy: Make Better Plans (Create a Strategy to Elevate Your Career, Community & Life): https://www.amazon.com/This-Strategy-Better-Elevate-Community/dp/B0D47T8S7N• Purple Cow: Transform Your Business by Being Remarkable: https://www.amazon.com/Purple-Cow-New-Transform-Remarkable/dp/1591843170—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. Get full access to Lenny's Newsletter at www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career ✓ Claim Key Takeaways  A brand is not a logo; it is a promise and what the customer expects from your product The goal is not to make the product perfect for you, it is to delight your customer The key to building a brand: Make a promise and keep it Do not sacrifice your agency over the four most crucial things that you should be choosing: your customers, competition, source of validation, and distributionOn the role of tension in strategy: The customer should consider what their life would be like if your product delivers on what it promises to do “If it scares you, it might be a good thing to try.” – Seth Godin Better waves make better surfers: Much of your success is determined by choosing the wave and not the skills that you have  Professionals do their work in a non-narcissistic way: You can't paint a picture of where you want to go; instead, you should paint a picture of where theywant to goBe of service to others! “It is very difficult to change what people want, but it is helpful to offer people a chance to get where they always wanted to go in the first place.” – Seth Godin  Read the full notes @ podcastnotes.orgSeth Godin is a legend. He's a marketer, teacher, entrepreneur, and author of more than 20 books, including Purple Cow, Permission Marketing, and Linchpin. He also writes one of the most popular and longest-running blogs in the world (approaching publishing 10,000 in a row!) and continues to shape how we think about marketing, brand, product, and creating lasting change in the world. In our conversation, we discuss:• How to build remarkable products that spread• The four critical strategic choices that determine your future• How to develop good taste and high standards• The role of tension in great strategy• How Seth used Claude to write his newest book• Much more—Brought to you by:• DX—A platform for measuring and improving developer productivity• Vanta—Automate compliance. Simplify security• Paragon—Ship every SaaS integration your customers want—Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/seth-godins-tactics-for-building-remarkable-products—Where to find Seth Godin:• Blog: http://seths.blog/• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethgodin• Website: https://www.sethgodin.com—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Seth's background(05:17) Understanding good taste and upholding high standards(08:09) Become the best at whatever you do(09:48) Seth's journey as a product manager(14:09) What people often get wrong when building products(16:00) Building a brand in the age of AI(19:04) Using AI to enhance writing(22:40) Four critical elements for an effective strategy(27:38) The role of tension in strategy(29:15) The concept of the purple cow(33:11) "Safe is risky"(34:56) The power of systems(37:07) Better waves make better surfers(38:10) Rebranding vs. re-logoing(43:07) Empathetic leadership(44:14) Conclusion and farewell—Referenced:• Seth Godin on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2024/03/20/seth-godin-3/• Persuasive communication and managing up | Wes Kao (Maven, Seth Godin, Section4): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/persuasive-communication-wes-kao• Spinnaker: https://spinnaker.io• Ray Bradbury: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Bradbury• Arthur C. Clarke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke• Isaac Asimov: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Asimov• Roger Zelazny: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Zelazny• Herbie Hancock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbie_Hancock• Fahrenheit 451 (game): https://www.filfre.net/2013/09/fahrenheit-451-the-game/• RTFM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM#• Intercom: https://www.intercom.com• Claude: https://claude.ai• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com• Steam: https://store.steampowered.com• P.F. Flyers: https://pfflyers.com• Steve Blank's website: https://steveblank.com• Marissa Mayer on X: https://x.com/marissamayer• Jaguar unveils new logo ahead of electric relaunch: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgr0pw00n7qo• IHOP Becomes IHOb, the International House of ... Burgers: https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618844977/ihop-becomes-ihob-the-international-house-of-burgers• Oreo's Super Bowl Power-Outage Tweet Was 18 Months in the Making: https://www.businessinsider.com/oreos-super-bowl-power-outage-tweet-was-18-months-in-the-making-2013-3• Tesla's New ‘Ludicrous Mode' Makes the Model S a Supercar: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/teslas-new-ludicrous-mode-makes-model-s-supercar—Recommended books:• This Is Strategy: Make Better Plans (Create a Strategy to Elevate Your Career, Community & Life): https://www.amazon.com/This-Strategy-Better-Elevate-Community/dp/B0D47T8S7N• Purple Cow: Transform Your Business by Being Remarkable: https://www.amazon.com/Purple-Cow-New-Transform-Remarkable/dp/1591843170—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. Get full access to Lenny's Newsletter at www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career ✓ Claim Key Takeaways  A brand is not a logo; it is a promise and what the customer expects from your product The goal is not to make the product perfect for you, it is to delight your customer The key to building a brand: Make a promise and keep it Do not sacrifice your agency over the four most crucial things that you should be choosing: your customers, competition, source of validation, and distributionOn the role of tension in strategy: The customer should consider what their life would be like if your product delivers on what it promises to do “If it scares you, it might be a good thing to try.” – Seth Godin Better waves make better surfers: Much of your success is determined by choosing the wave and not the skills that you have  Professionals do their work in a non-narcissistic way: You can't paint a picture of where you want to go; instead, you should paint a picture of where theywant to goBe of service to others! “It is very difficult to change what people want, but it is helpful to offer people a chance to get where they always wanted to go in the first place.” – Seth Godin  Read the full notes @ podcastnotes.orgSeth Godin is a legend. He's a marketer, teacher, entrepreneur, and author of more than 20 books, including Purple Cow, Permission Marketing, and Linchpin. He also writes one of the most popular and longest-running blogs in the world (approaching publishing 10,000 in a row!) and continues to shape how we think about marketing, brand, product, and creating lasting change in the world. In our conversation, we discuss:• How to build remarkable products that spread• The four critical strategic choices that determine your future• How to develop good taste and high standards• The role of tension in great strategy• How Seth used Claude to write his newest book• Much more—Brought to you by:• DX—A platform for measuring and improving developer productivity• Vanta—Automate compliance. Simplify security• Paragon—Ship every SaaS integration your customers want—Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/seth-godins-tactics-for-building-remarkable-products—Where to find Seth Godin:• Blog: http://seths.blog/• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethgodin• Website: https://www.sethgodin.com—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Seth's background(05:17) Understanding good taste and upholding high standards(08:09) Become the best at whatever you do(09:48) Seth's journey as a product manager(14:09) What people often get wrong when building products(16:00) Building a brand in the age of AI(19:04) Using AI to enhance writing(22:40) Four critical elements for an effective strategy(27:38) The role of tension in strategy(29:15) The concept of the purple cow(33:11) "Safe is risky"(34:56) The power of systems(37:07) Better waves make better surfers(38:10) Rebranding vs. re-logoing(43:07) Empathetic leadership(44:14) Conclusion and farewell—Referenced:• Seth Godin on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2024/03/20/seth-godin-3/• Persuasive communication and managing up | Wes Kao (Maven, Seth Godin, Section4): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/persuasive-communication-wes-kao• Spinnaker: https://spinnaker.io• Ray Bradbury: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Bradbury• Arthur C. Clarke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke• Isaac Asimov: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Asimov• Roger Zelazny: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Zelazny• Herbie Hancock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbie_Hancock• Fahrenheit 451 (game): https://www.filfre.net/2013/09/fahrenheit-451-the-game/• RTFM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM#• Intercom: https://www.intercom.com• Claude: https://claude.ai• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com• Steam: https://store.steampowered.com• P.F. Flyers: https://pfflyers.com• Steve Blank's website: https://steveblank.com• Marissa Mayer on X: https://x.com/marissamayer• Jaguar unveils new logo ahead of electric relaunch: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgr0pw00n7qo• IHOP Becomes IHOb, the International House of ... Burgers: https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618844977/ihop-becomes-ihob-the-international-house-of-burgers• Oreo's Super Bowl Power-Outage Tweet Was 18 Months in the Making: https://www.businessinsider.com/oreos-super-bowl-power-outage-tweet-was-18-months-in-the-making-2013-3• Tesla's New ‘Ludicrous Mode' Makes the Model S a Supercar: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/teslas-new-ludicrous-mode-makes-model-s-supercar—Recommended books:• This Is Strategy: Make Better Plans (Create a Strategy to Elevate Your Career, Community & Life): https://www.amazon.com/This-Strategy-Better-Elevate-Community/dp/B0D47T8S7N• Purple Cow: Transform Your Business by Being Remarkable: https://www.amazon.com/Purple-Cow-New-Transform-Remarkable/dp/1591843170—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. Get full access to Lenny's Newsletter at www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe

Seth Godin is a legend. He's a marketer, teacher, entrepreneur, and author of more than 20 books, including Purple Cow, Permission Marketing, and Linchpin. He also writes one of the most popular and longest-running blogs in the world (approaching publishing 10,000 in a row!) and continues to shape how we think about marketing, brand, product, and creating lasting change in the world. In our conversation, we discuss:• How to build remarkable products that spread• The four critical strategic choices that determine your future• How to develop good taste and high standards• The role of tension in great strategy• How Seth used Claude to write his newest book• Much more—Brought to you by:• DX—A platform for measuring and improving developer productivity• Vanta—Automate compliance. Simplify security• Paragon—Ship every SaaS integration your customers want—Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/seth-godins-tactics-for-building-remarkable-products—Where to find Seth Godin:• X: https://x.com/thisissethsblog• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethgodin• Website: https://www.sethgodin.com—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Seth's background(05:17) Understanding good taste and upholding high standards(08:09) Become the best at whatever you do(09:48) Seth's journey as a product manager(14:09) What people often get wrong when building products(16:00) Building a brand in the age of AI(19:04) Using AI to enhance writing(22:40) Four critical elements for an effective strategy(27:38) The role of tension in strategy(29:15) The concept of the purple cow(33:11) "Safe is risky"(34:56) The power of systems(37:07) Better waves make better surfers(38:10) Rebranding vs. re-logoing(43:07) Empathetic leadership(44:14) Conclusion and farewell—Referenced:• Seth Godin on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2024/03/20/seth-godin-3/• Persuasive communication and managing up | Wes Kao (Maven, Seth Godin, Section4): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/persuasive-communication-wes-kao• Spinnaker: https://spinnaker.io• Ray Bradbury: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Bradbury• Arthur C. Clarke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke• Isaac Asimov: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Asimov• Roger Zelazny: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Zelazny• Herbie Hancock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbie_Hancock• Fahrenheit 451 (game): https://www.filfre.net/2013/09/fahrenheit-451-the-game/• RTFM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM#• Intercom: https://www.intercom.com• Claude: https://claude.ai• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com• Steam: https://store.steampowered.com• P.F. Flyers: https://pfflyers.com• Steve Blank's website: https://steveblank.com• Marissa Mayer on X: https://x.com/marissamayer• Jaguar unveils new logo ahead of electric relaunch: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgr0pw00n7qo• IHOP Becomes IHOb, the International House of ... Burgers: https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618844977/ihop-becomes-ihob-the-international-house-of-burgers• Oreo's Super Bowl Power-Outage Tweet Was 18 Months in the Making: https://www.businessinsider.com/oreos-super-bowl-power-outage-tweet-was-18-months-in-the-making-2013-3• Tesla's New ‘Ludicrous Mode' Makes the Model S a Supercar: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/teslas-new-ludicrous-mode-makes-model-s-supercar—Recommended books:• This Is Strategy: Make Better Plans (Create a Strategy to Elevate Your Career, Community & Life): https://www.amazon.com/This-Strategy-Better-Elevate-Community/dp/B0D47T8S7N• Purple Cow: Transform Your Business by Being Remarkable: https://www.amazon.com/Purple-Cow-New-Transform-Remarkable/dp/1591843170—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. Get full access to Lenny's Newsletter at www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe

In this episode of the Million Dollar Mastermind podcast, host Larry Weidel is joined by the legendary blogger, entrepreneur, best-selling author, and speaker Seth Godin. Seth shares his journey in the book industry, highlighting that success isn't always tied to book quality but to timing, effort, and spreading ideas. Seth also dives into his early failures, including 900 rejections, his unique perspective on life and business, and why he writes daily, maintaining this habit for over 8,000 days. Seth has written 22 bestsellers published in 39 languages, including The Dip, Linchpin, Purple Cow, Tribes, What To Do When It's Your Turn (And It's Always Your Turn), and the recently launched This Is Strategy: Make Better Plans. After leaving Spinnaker in 1986, he self-funded Seth Godin Productions with $20,000 as a book packaging business. He operated this venture out of a studio apartment in New York City.

In this episode of the Million Dollar Mastermind podcast, host Larry Weidel is joined by the legendary blogger, entrepreneur, best-selling author, and speaker Seth Godin. Seth shares his journey in the book industry, highlighting that success isn't always tied to book quality but to timing, effort, and spreading ideas. Seth also dives into his early failures, including 900 rejections, his unique perspective on life and business, and why he writes daily, maintaining this habit for over 8,000 days. Seth has written 22 bestsellers published in 39 languages, including The Dip, Linchpin, Purple Cow, Tribes, What To Do When It's Your Turn (And It's Always Your Turn), and the recently launched This Is Strategy: Make Better Plans. After leaving Spinnaker in 1986, he self-funded Seth Godin Productions with $20,000 as a book packaging business. He operated this venture out of a studio apartment in New York City.

In this episode of the Million Dollar Mastermind podcast, host Larry Weidel is joined by the legendary blogger, entrepreneur, best-selling author, and speaker Seth Godin. Seth shares his journey in the book industry, highlighting that success isn't always tied to book quality but to timing, effort, and spreading ideas. Seth also dives into his early failures, including 900 rejections, his unique perspective on life and business, and why he writes daily, maintaining this habit for over 8,000 days. Seth has written 22 bestsellers published in 39 languages, including The Dip, Linchpin, Purple Cow, Tribes, What To Do When It's Your Turn (And It's Always Your Turn), and the recently launched This Is Strategy: Make Better Plans. After leaving Spinnaker in 1986, he self-funded Seth Godin Productions with $20,000 as a book packaging business. He operated this venture out of a studio apartment in New York City.

In this episode of The Boulos Beat, host Greg Boulos speaks with Bob Gould, a retired partner of Brown Brothers Harriman, about his extensive leadership roles in both commercial and nonprofit sectors. Bob currently holds positions as Principal at Spinnaker Trust, Trustee and Investment Committee Chair of the Pinkerton Foundation, and Co-Chair of the Board of Squash Haven. The two discuss Bob's family's history in Maine, his involvement in the Black Point Inn acquisition, and his role in the Portland Museum of Art's Winslow Homer Studio purchase. Bob also shares insights on the growth of the Pinkerton Foundation, the importance of mentorship, and his views on Portland's development and the future of Spinnaker Trust.

The home computer market implodes,  Atari announces 7800 & Console software dries up. These stories and many more on this episode of the VGNRTM! This episode we will look back at the biggest stories in and around the video game industry in June 1984.  As always, we'll mostly be using magazine cover dates, and those are of course always a bit behind the actual events. Alex Smith of They Create Worlds is our cohost.  Check out his podcast here: https://www.theycreateworlds.com/ and order his book here: https://www.theycreateworlds.com/book Get us on your mobile device: Android:  https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly92aWRlb2dhbWVuZXdzcm9vbXRpbWVtYWNoaW5lLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz iOS:      https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/video-game-newsroom-time-machine And if you like what we are doing here at the podcast, don't forget to like us on your podcasting app of choice, YouTube, and/or support us on patreon! https://www.patreon.com/VGNRTM Send comments on Mastodon @videogamenewsroomtimemachine@oldbytes.space Or twitter @videogamenewsr2 Or Instagram https://www.instagram.com/vgnrtm Or videogamenewsroomtimemachine@gmail.com Links: If you don't see all the links, find them here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/112063864 7 Minutes in Heaven: Summer Games Video Version:  https://www.patreon.com/posts/7-minutes-in-111922026     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_Games_(video_game)     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Summer_Olympics Corrections: May 1984 Ep - https://www.patreon.com/posts/may-1984-108363601 Ethan's fine site The History of How We Play: https://thehistoryofhowweplay.wordpress.com/     https://forums.atariage.com/topic/283473-coleco-industries-inc-annual-quarterly-reports-1981-to-1986/     https://www.mobygames.com/company/1181/ientertainment-network-inc/     https://www.mobygames.com/company/56/imagic/      1954:     MIDAC and MIDSAC premiered     Electronic Brain Shoots Dice, Plays Mean Game, The Philadelphia Inquirer (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) · 27 Jun 1954         https://www.retrogamedeconstructionzone.com/2021/07/midsac-pool-simulator.html        https://www.masswerk.at/nowgobang/2019/michigan-pool 1974:     Is Pong gambling?     While Pondering Decision, A Look at Evidence The Tampa Tribune (Tampa, Florida) · 04 Jun 1974, Tue Grand Trak 10 cracks 1000         https://archive.org/details/cashbox36unse_1/page/37/mode/1up?view=theater     https://archive.org/details/cashbox36unse_2/page/35/mode/1up US coinop exports boom         https://archive.org/details/cashbox36unse_3/page/38/mode/1up Smithsonian displays coinop machines     https://archive.org/details/cashbox36unse_3/page/39/mode/1up 1984: Home computer boom busts     https://www.nytimes.com/1984/06/04/business/the-expected-boom-in-home-computers-fails-to-materialize.html?searchResultPosition=1 Atari HQ gets mass layoffs     Atari Layoffs Start At Home Office, The New York Times, June 1, 1984, Friday, Late City Final Edition, Section: Section D; Page 3, Column 5; Financial Desk      https://books.google.de/books?id=wS4EAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA78&dq=infoworld%201984%20june&hl=de&pg=PA9#v=onepage&q=infoworld%201984%20june&f=false Commodore raises prices     https://archive.org/details/computer-entertainer-3-3/page/n1/mode/2up Top Commodore Execs go to Tramel     Computer market is Commodore's battleground, Financial Times (London,England), June 8, 1984, Friday, Section: SECTION II; International Companies; Pg. 17, Byline: BY LOUISE KEHOE IN SAN FRANCISCO Philips announces new division     https://archive.org/details/happycomputer-magazine-1984-06/page/n7/mode/2up Coleco returns to profitability     No Headline In Original, The Associated Press, June 14, 1984, Thursday, PM cycle, Section: Business News Hasbro buys MB     Playthings June 1984, pg. 9 Mattel gets financial boost     Playthings June 1984, pg. 9         BUSINESS PEOPLE ;Mattel, Solely in Toys,Combines Management, The New York Times, June 7, 1984, Thursday, Late City Final Edition,Section: Section D; Page 2, Column 5; Financial Desk, Byline: By Kenneth N. Gilpin General Instruments revenue 66% down     No Headline In Original, Communications Daily, June 13, 1984, Wednesday, Section: NOTEBOOK; Vol. 4, No. 115; Pg. 8 More hardware companies fail     AT&T to introduce personal computer; Kaypro mystery; UNIX-ability; Thinking ahead, The San Diego Union-Tribune, June 25, 1984 Monday, Section: BUSINESS; Pg. C-11, Byline: Dan Berger, Staff Writer More Software companies fail     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-21/page/n4/mode/1up?view=theater Argus buys Quicksilva     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-07/mode/1up?view=theater Gillette buys into Datasoft     https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_4.3/page/n15/mode/2up     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillette Smaller publishers find strength in numbers     https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_4.3/page/n15/mode/2up     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamix Marketing will save us!     Orwell, Chaplin and the high-tech hype; U.S. personal computers, Financial Times (London,England), June 14, 1984, Thursday, Section: SECTION I; The Management Page: Marketing; Pg. 20, byline: BY LOUISE KEHOE Atari announces 7800     https://archive.org/details/computer-entertainer-3-3       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_7800     Still looking for a niche; Gearing up for battle with Apple and IBM, Industry Week, June 25, 1984, Section: NEWS ANALYSIS; Home Computers; Pg. 16, Byline: By MICHAEL A. VERESPEJ Atari introduces MindLink at CES     "Retailers, Manufacturers View Gadgets At 4-Day Show, The Associated Press, June 3, 1984, Sunday, AM cycle, Section: Domestic News        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Mindlink         Video Explosion On the Way For Buyers, U.S. News & World Report, June 18, 1984, Section: Pg. 56. Byline: By MARY GALLIGAN Atari announces more expensive computer for Q4     No Headline In Original, The New York Times, June 4, 1984, Monday, Late City Final Edition,Section: Section D; Page 5, Column 1; Financial Desk       https://www.atari-computermuseum.de/1450xld.htm Commodore unveils Plus/4     No Headline In Original, The New York Times, June 4, 1984, Monday, Late City Final Edition,Section: Section D; Page 5, Column 1; Financial Desk Rick Dyer shows off Halcyon!     Laser game's creator beams, The San Diego Union-Tribune, June 2, 1984 Saturday, Section: LIFESTYLE; Pg. D-1, Byline: Mark Sauer, Staff Writer        https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-sun-rick-dyer-aftermath-of-c/86522500/ Intellivision won't make it to CES     Computer games galore shown at CES     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-21/page/n11/mode/1up?view=theater Digital Audio is coming to floppies     https://books.google.de/books?id=vi4EAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA5&dq=infoworld%201984%20june&hl=de&pg=PA9#v=onepage&q=infoworld%201984%20june&f=false      https://tekkiepix.com/compusonics-2 Konami goes to Europe     Konami will tap European market, The Japan Economic Journal, June 26, 1984, Section: SERVICE/LEISURE/FOOD; Pg. 17 Animatronics may save small coinop venues     Replay June 1984, pg. 129     Play Meter June 1, 1984, pg. 43        https://berksnostalgia.com/gadgets-restaurant-berkshire-mall/ Console game releases dry up     https://archive.org/details/computer-entertainer-3-3/page/n12/mode/1up      UK computer sales boom     https://archive.org/details/home-computing-weekly-066/mode/1up?view=theater QL software drought continues     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-28/mode/1up?view=theater Imagic gets a facelift     https://archive.org/details/computer-entertainer-3-3/page/n11/mode/2up        https://www.mobygames.com/company/56/imagic/        https://www.mobygames.com/company/7630/bantam-software/         Spinnaker gets serious about bookware     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-21/page/n11/mode/1up?view=theater         https://books.google.de/books?id=wi4EAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA7&dq=infoworld%201984%20june&hl=de&pg=PA42#v=onepage&q=infoworld%201984%20june&f=false      Activision to distribute Gamestar      https://archive.org/details/computer-entertainer-3-3/page/n11/mode/2up      Boulder Dash license worth $1.3 million         https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_4.3/page/n15/mode/2up Thorn EMI gets HESWare rights     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-21/mode/1up?view=theater       https://www.mobygames.com/company/7034/thorn-emi-computer-software/        https://books.google.de/books?id=wi4EAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA7&dq=infoworld%201984%20june&hl=de&pg=PA14#v=onepage&q=infoworld%201984%20june&f=false     https://www.mobygames.com/game/9358/dragonfire/cover/group-139555/cover-394849/         https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-28/page/n3/mode/2up?view=theater Ultimate snubs move to budget pricing     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-07/page/n4/mode/1up?view=theater Imagine sells game library     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-14/page/n4/mode/1up?view=theater 20th Century Fox licenses TV shows     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-21/mode/1up?view=theater        https://www.mobygames.com/game/56197/automan/          https://www.mobygames.com/game/38810/the-fall-guy/ Epyx announces Activity Toys     https://archive.org/details/computer-entertainer-3-3/page/n11/mode/2up Epyx lets the Ruskies join in Olympic fever     No Headline In Original, PR Newswire, June 14, 1984, Thursday, Dateline: SUNNYVALE, Calif., June 14 Wizardry gets enhanced     https://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari-400-800-xl-xe-financial-cookbook_27176.html EA wants to help cook your books     https://archive.org/details/computer-entertainer-3-3/page/n3/mode/2up        https://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari-400-800-xl-xe-financial-cookbook_27176.html Rand McNally wants to search your roads     https://archive.org/details/Ahoy_Issue_06_1984-06_Ion_International_US/page/n5/mode/2up Osborne goes budget     https://books.google.de/books?id=wy4EAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA5&dq=infoworld%201984%20june&hl=de&pg=PA9#v=onepage&q=infoworld%201984%20june&f=false     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paperback_Software 64er magazine interviews crackers     https://archive.org/details/64er_1984_06/page/12/mode/2up      BellSouth looking to team up with Commodore     No Headline In Original, Communications Daily, June 18, 1984, Monday, Section: NOTEBOOK; Vol. 4, No. 118; Pg. 7 Mail Order Pro makes payments easier     https://books.google.de/books?id=wS4EAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA78&dq=infoworld%201984%20june&hl=de&pg=PA15#v=onepage&q=infoworld%201984%20june&f=false     https://books.google.de/books?id=wS4EAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA78&dq=infoworld%201984%20june&hl=de&pg=PA30#v=onepage&q=infoworld%201984%20june&f=false      Telematch gives up on consoles     https://archive.org/details/TeleMatch.N12.Computer.1984.06-KCz.pdf/mode/1up      Dennis D. Groth settles      DENNIS-D-GROTH; Comments on settlement of SEC complaint, Business Wire, June 05, 1984, Tuesday        Atari Executive Settles Stock Sale Charge, The Associated Press, June 6, 1984, Wednesday, PM cycle, Section: Domestic News Taito settles with Entex     Replay June 1984, pg. 30 FCC Gives Sanyo go ahead for antenna-less TV     FCC OKs low-cost cable-only TV sets, United Press International, June 15, 1984, Friday, BC cycle, Section: Financial, Byline: By SYDNEY SHAW Tax breaks may be hurting home computer sales     TAX SHIFT MAY AID SALE OF LOW-COST COMPUTERS, The New York Times, June 19, 1984, Tuesday, Late City Final Edition, Section: Section D; Page 13, Column 3; Financial Desk, Byline: By DAVID E. SANGER         https://www.atarimagazines.com/creative/v10n1/172_Writing_it_off_how_to_de.php         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deficit_Reduction_Act_of_1984 Computerland to go to China     https://books.google.de/books?id=wy4EAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA5&dq=infoworld%201984%20june&hl=de&pg=PA15#v=onepage&q=infoworld%201984%20june&f=false      Laserdiscs are coming to Saturday morning     Playthings June 1984, pg. 54 Zap the Rise and Fall of Atari reviewed     https://www.nytimes.com/1984/06/24/books/thinking-machines-and-their-people.html?searchResultPosition=1    Steven Spielberg finds permanent home at Universal     The Wizard of Wonderland, Newsweek, June 4, 1984, UNITED STATES EDITION, Section: MOVIES; Pg. 79, Byline: JACK KROLL with DAVID T. FRIENDLY in Los Angeles RIP Dragon 32     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-07/mode/2up?view=theater        https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-06-28/mode/1up?view=theater          Breaking news!!     Warner negotiating sale of Atari to      Paper Says Warner Negotiating to Sell Atari, The Associated Press, June 30, 1984, Saturday, AM cycle, Section: Domestic News Recommended Links: The History of How We Play: https://thehistoryofhowweplay.wordpress.com/ Gaming Alexandria: https://www.gamingalexandria.com/wp/ They Create Worlds: https://tcwpodcast.podbean.com/ Digital Antiquarian: https://www.filfre.net/ The Arcade Blogger: https://arcadeblogger.com/ Retro Asylum: http://retroasylum.com/category/all-posts/ Retro Game Squad: http://retrogamesquad.libsyn.com/ Playthrough Podcast: https://playthroughpod.com/ Retromags.com: https://www.retromags.com/ Games That Weren't - https://www.gamesthatwerent.com/ Sound Effects by Ethan Johnson of History of How We Play. Copyright Karl Kuras  

Octogenarian, Iris Holt is another year older, but that didn't stop her from doing what she loves. That is to descend down the Spinnaker Tower to raise funds for the Rowans Hospice. She told Petersfield's Shine Radio that she wants to thank everyone that supported her again this year. Needless to say, she is already planning for next year.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

An airhacks.fm conversation with Jonathan Schneider (@jon_k_schneider) about: Spinnaker's role in continuous delivery and multi-cloud deployments, multi-cloud architectures, Micrometer's origin and design as a vendor-neutral metrics abstraction library, comparison of micrometer to other metrics solutions like opentelemetry and MicroProfile Metrics, exploration of Micrometer's architecture including registries and meter types, debate on static vs dependency-injected registries, explanation of distribution summaries and their use cases, consideration of unit testing metrics, examination of Micrometer's support for multiple monitoring systems simultaneously, discussion of meter filters for customizing metric output, reflection on the trade-offs between language support and monitoring system support in metrics libraries, insights into the separation of application and runtime metrics, Jonathan's experience developing Micrometer at Netflix and Pivotal, current usage of Micrometer and prometheus in Modern's multi-tenant SaaS architecture, comparison of serverless and EC2-based deployments for different use cases, OpenRewrite's growing popularity in Europe Jonathan Schneider on twitter: @jon_k_schneider

The Transformation Ground Control podcast covers a number of topics important to digital and business transformation. This episode covers the following topics and interviews:   McDonalds Discontinuing AI Drive-Thru, Q&A (Darian Chwialkowski, Third Stage Consulting) Marine Corps Digital Transformation Initiative (Darian Chwialkowski) Managing Multi-National Digital Transformations (Aaron Patterson, Third Stage Consulting EMEA, Dean Sam, Third Stage Consulting APAC) Third Stage Consulting Growth Plans in EMEA (Aaron Patterson, EVP Third Stage Consulting EMEA)   We also cover a number of other relevant topics related to digital and business transformation throughout the show.  

Join us for a South Coast celebration with Spinnaker Chorus and friends as hey mark 20 years of harmony with a party and a concert which includes Afterglow and High Tea.

The Transformation Ground Control podcast covers a number of topics important to digital and business transformation. This episode covers the following topics and interviews:   SAP to Raise On-Premise Support Costs, Q&A (Darian Chwialkowski, Third Stage Consulting) 3rd Party Support & Maintenance Options (Matt Stava, Spinnaker Support) Most Important Business Processes to Document   We also cover a number of other relevant topics related to digital and business transformation throughout the show.  

Now our David Hogg finds out about a challenge taking place later this month…

In this episode, Dr. Sunny Bains talks with Professor Christian Mayr from the Technical University of Dresden, who worked on SpiNNaker with Steve Furber for many years. He is taking that project into the future with SpiNNaker 2, which is mostly built, SpiNNaker 3, which is his next design project, and the startup SpiNNcloud. Discussion follows with Dr. Giulia D'Angelo Marie Curie Fellow at The Czech Technical University in Prague, and Professor Ralph Etienne-Cummings of Johns Hopkins University.

A question from the audience sparks debate about the best watches under $500. Aaron returns from staring at the sky in Texas and eclipses Josh's top watch picks with toxic pragmatism. To Swiss, or not to Swiss... that is the question.

You just gotta learn the hard way, don't you?In this episode, we go back in the archives to uncover ten (OK - Maybe eleven) interesting, and oftentimes hilarious, mistakes that we have made over the last couple of years.  We dive deep into the idea that mistakes are not only okay but essential for growth. We emphasize the importance of owning up to errors, reframing them positively, and learning from them through self-analysis. It's all about resilience, self-compassion, and understanding that imperfections are just stepping stones toward personal development.Welcome to 'The Why Matters Podcast,' where we explore life lessons, things we often take for granted, and everything in between, gathered from our decade-long full-time travel lifestyle. Each week, we'll delve deep into the 'why' behind the choices we humans make in life and the positive results that stem from a strong sense of purpose.Mistakes we made@11:46 Checkpoint at Ukraine@15:07 Getting our French Visas in Miami@16:58 Largo's fracture@20:42 Wrong Airport@23:20 ‘Cooling' the Oil Tank@25:52 Filming in Slovenia@29:22 Raising the Spinnaker@32:01 Moldy Lemonade@36:00 Overfilled Water Tank@39:04 Overpacked @42:52 E Visa in VietnamPATREONhttps://www.patreon.com/worldtowningIf you would like to support us in a greater capacity where you can snag some cool swag, plus join us for monthly LIVE chats, and get huge discounts on future group trips. Thank you!GROUP TRIPShttps://worldtowningvoyages.com/Come travel with us! Our company is owned (and 100% guided) by a family of four full-time travelers. Our passion is building bridges between cultures, fueling personal development, and expanding hearts and minds alongside a community of like-hearted individuals.COACHINGhttps://worldtowning.com/learn-2/Are you looking for guidance to accomplish that big goal supporting your why? We are the couple for you. Let's set up a chat to get you started on your dream life, whether it is full-time travel or something else.NEWSLETTERhttps://worldtowning.us14.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=32de323857a58dc5ab35b897f&id=b0760c6efa10 years full-time travel with 2 world schooled kids, currently on a sailboat, writing about a travel lifestyle, education, equality & what it's like to live an unconventional life.MERCHANDISEYes - We have Merch! - https://worldtowningvoyages.com/elements/merch/OUR SOCIALSInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/worldtowning/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/worldtowningFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/worldtowningTik-Tok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@worldtowningSupport the show

Welcome to the Scottish Watches Podcast Episode 524! Our Brave Heart limited edition with Spinnaker sold in less than 12 hours! Thank you to everyone who placed an order and... The post Scottish Watches Podcast #524 : New Watches for December from Estrowerk, Duckworth, G-SHOCK, AP and SB appeared first on Scottish Watches.

Welcome to the Scottish Watches Podcast Episode 522! Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedoooooom! Today, it's all about our new Braveheart Limited Edition with Spinnaker and our experience at Dubai Watch Week 2023. Click here... The post Scottish Watches Podcast #522 : Our New Limited Edition Braveheart Watch Is Here Plus Our Dubai Watch Week Report and More appeared first on Scottish Watches.

In this latest episode of Brains and Machines, EE Times regular Dr. Sunny Bains talks to now Emeritus Professor Steve Furber as he prepares to leave the University of Manchester. They talk about associative memories, the original SpiNNaker neural simulator designed using densely-interconnected ARM cores, and the new generation of the technology currently being assembled. Discussion follows with Dr. Giulia D'Angelo from the Italian Institute of Technology and Professor Ralph Etienne-Cummings from Johns Hopkins University.

Warwick Life host Scott Nerney talks with Spinnaker Asset Management Certified Financial Planner Lisa Picillo. Spinnaker Asset Management is a small Warwick firm that offers customized and personalized retirement planning. Hear myths about financial planning, how financial planners work with clients of all ages to set and meet their retirement goals, and how expert advice can help you navigate complex investment options. Visit the Spinnaker Asset Management website. Write to Lisa at lpicillo@spinam.com. Warwick Life highlights what's special in Warwick, Rhode Island and helps listeners get the most from this seaside community. Warwick Life is produced by Scott Nerney and presented by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Varnum Memorial Armory Military & Naval Museum⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Write to warwicklife@gmail.com. Music by Tess Der Manouelian.

On dit généralement que l'eau et l'electricité ne font pas bon ménage, il s'avère qu'il y a parfois des exceptions et Guy Devroedt en est un parfait exemple ! Ce passionné de voile, qui a construit un voilier en bois de 11 mètres, a choisi le nom d'une voile pour nommer son entreprise : le spinnaker (ou spi) . Créée en 1994, Spinnaker est implantée depuis 1996 sur Montrouge. Celui qui se revendique fiérement comme un electricien "local" intervient tant auprès des professionnels qu'auprès des particuliers. Dans cette interview Guy nous parle de sa vision du métier, de la formation des jeunes, et comment l'électricité est devenue sa passion ...à découvrir dès maintenant ! Si vous avez aimé cet épisode ? Soutenez-nous en vous abonnant et en mettant 5 étoiles !Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Atari axes Ray Kassar, Nintendo launches the Famicom & Commodore's Jack Tramiel delivers the killing blow to Texas Instruments These stories and many more on this episode of the VGNRTM This episode we will look back at the biggest stories in and around the video game industry in July 1983.  As always,  we'll mostly be using magazine cover dates, and those are of course always a bit behind the actual events. Alex Smith of They Create Worlds is our cohost.  Check out his podcast here: https://www.theycreateworlds.com/ and order his book here: https://www.theycreateworlds.com/book Get us on your mobile device: Android:  https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly92aWRlb2dhbWVuZXdzcm9vbXRpbWVtYWNoaW5lLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz iOS:      https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/video-game-newsroom-time-machine And if you like what we are doing here at the podcast, don't forget to like us on your podcasting app of choice, YouTube, and/or support us on patreon! https://www.patreon.com/VGNRTM Send comments on Mastodon @videogamenewsroomtimemachine@oldbytes.space Or twitter @videogamenewsr2 Or Instagram https://www.instagram.com/vgnrtm Or videogamenewsroomtimemachine@gmail.com Links: 7 Minutes in Heaven: Manic Miner     Video Version:  https://www.patreon.com/posts/87996985     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Miner     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassed_Off          Corrections:     June 1983 Ep - https://www.patreon.com/posts/june-1983-85898642     Ethan's fine site The History of How We Play: https://thehistoryofhowweplay.wordpress.com/     When Nintendo Games Were on Atari | Gaming Historian  - Written by Ethan Johnson  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjRuV52Jk78      1963     Maloney sells Bally     https://archive.org/details/cashbox24unse_41/page/54/mode/1up?view=theater     http://podcast.theycreateworlds.com/e/lion-and-bally-manufacturing/ Lasers featured in Popular Electronics     https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Poptronics/60s/63/Pop-1963-07.pdf     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser 1973     Atari introduces Space Race     https://archive.org/details/cashbox35unse_3/page/39/mode/1up     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Race_(video_game) Bushnell goes to Europe     https://archive.org/details/cashbox35unse_3/page/39/mode/1up RCA announces mass production of LCDs     https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Poptronics/70s/1973/Poptronics-1973-07.pdf  pg. 23 Motorola announces Dynatac     https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Poptronics/70s/1973/Poptronics-1973-07.pdf     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_DynaTAC Associated Press uses lasers to transmit and computers to store images     https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Poptronics/70s/1973/Poptronics-1973-07.pdf  pg. 23 Digital Watches are the latest male fashion statement    https://www.nytimes.com/1973/07/21/archives/a-watch-that-takes-the-hard-time-out-of-telling-time.html Ira Bettleman graduates with psychology degree     https://archive.org/details/cashbox35unse_2/page/50/mode/1up     Noah Falstein - Lucasfilm https://www.patreon.com/posts/37807684 1983: Ray Kassar leaves Atari     https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-san-francisco-examiner-atari-inc-ray/62357592/       https://www.newspapers.com/article/star-tribune-resignation-of-ray-kassar-f/68994316/        https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/08/business/chief-is-replaced-at-troubled-atari.html     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/24/business/philip-morris-s-marlboro-man.html     Toys Hobbies and Crafts July 1983         https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/mode/1up     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/27/movies/shapiro-quits-at-warner-s.html      Atari distribution restructuring tanks     https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-baltimore-sun-atari-inc-deals-with-c/62356604/     The Video Game Crash 40th Anniversary - Part 1: Atari  https://www.patreon.com/posts/video-game-crash-75643983 Mattel, Atari, and TI announces even bigger losses     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/26/business/mattel-expects-to-post-large-loss.html      Toy and Hobby World July 1983     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/22/business/warner-posts-a-283.4-million-loss.html        https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/13/business/mattel-reshuffles-its-electronics-unit.html       https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/23/business/texas-instruments-lost-119.2-million-in-quarter.html        https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/19/business/rca-profits-rise-zenith-also-climbs.html     Playthings July 1983     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/25/business/earnings-up-sharply-in-quarter.html Williams profits down     Games People July 30, 1983, pg. 7 Mattel axes 260 in Electronics division     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/mode/1up TI lays off 750         https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/mode/1up Marketers brought in to take reigns of computer makers     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/27/business/selling-computers-like-soap.html        https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/13/business/mattel-reshuffles-its-electronics-unit.html UK tax authority preps for micro crash     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-21/mode/1up?view=theater      Rebates hit coinop     Replay July 1983 pg. 8 Gottlieb changes name     Replay July 1983 pg. 8     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottlieb Sente has Videa     https://archive.org/details/joystik_magazine-1983-07/page/n11/mode/2up     Roger Hector - Atari, Disney, Sega, Namco, Sente  https://www.patreon.com/posts/72058794 New tech needed to revitalize arcades     https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-modesto-bee-arcade-game-difficulties/85528989/        Play Meter July 15, 1983, pg. 36     https://www.thebasementarcade.com/roadtrips31.htm Magnetic strips poised to replace coins     Play Meter July 15, 1983, pg. 32     https://www.sacoacard.com/ VCTER wants you to book flights at your arcade     Play Meter July 1, 1983 pg. 40 Digital poker goes after the older audience     Replay July 1983 pg. 8     Replay July 1983, pg. 32      Tex Critter bows out of pizza-arcade market     Games People July 30, 1983, pg. 1     https://dreamfiction.fandom.com/wiki/Tex_Critter%27s_Pizza_Jamboree_(fictional) Nintendo's Tokyo stock debut dampened by lawsuit     Japan Economic Newswire  JULY 21, 1983, THURSDAY        https://www.mariowiki.com/Ikegami_Tsushinki     NINTENDO TO SPLIT STOCK, Copyright 1983 Jiji Press Ltd.Jiji Press Ticker Service, JULY 22, 1983, FRIDAY Nintendo and Sega enter the programmable console market     https://archive.org/details/login-september-1983/page/n89/mode/2up?q=%E4%BB%BB%E5%A4%A9%E5%A0%82     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_System     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SG-1000 Sega's SC3000 sales estimates jump     Sharp attention on Sega product , The Japan Economic Journal July 19, 1983,      Tuesday  Business Japan, July 1983 Atari 2600 Adapter for the 5200 ships     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 57     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_5200 Atari drops price of 5200     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60      Vectrex drops to $100     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60 Gameline won't leave retailers in the lurch     Playthings July 1983        https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 55 Electra Concepts introduces a trigger button     Playthings July 1983        https://www.ebay.com/itm/224626441270 Second hand mail order game exchanges boom     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/07/garden/secondhand-games-for-video-buffs.html Supercharger gets first licensee     The Video Game Update July 1983, pg. 50 Frob makes console game design affordable     The Video Game Update July 1983, pg. 50         http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-frob-26_29983.html Coleco axes Super Game Module 3     The Video Game Update July 1983, pg. 53        https://cancelled-games.fandom.com/wiki/ColecoVision_Super_Game_Module Mattel axes Intellivision 3     The Video Game Update July 1983, pg. 53        https://cancelled-games.fandom.com/wiki/ColecoVision_Super_Game_Module MB goes blam-blam on VCS     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf   pg. 57 20th Century Fox wants you to make them a better game     https://archive.org/details/1983-07-compute-magazine/page/n33/mode/1up?view=theater Fox sees bright future for their games     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24/page/n6/mode/1up Fox halves price of MASH on VCS     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/page/n2/mode/1up Colecovision games coming to Spectravideo     https://archive.org/details/Electronic_Fun_with_Computer_Games_Vol_01_No_09_1983-07_Fun_Games_Publishing_US/page/n7/mode/2up        https://www.msx.org/wiki/Spectravideo_SV-603 As action figures rise, consoles fall     Playthings July 1983      Activision opens UK subsidiary    https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews019-20Jul1983/page/n11/mode/1up     Gregory Fischbach Part 1 - Activision - Acclaim  https://www.patreon.com/posts/46578120 Atari drops the 1200XL     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf pg. 58'     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_8-bit_family#1200XL Atari introduces XL line     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf pg. 59        https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-28/page/n4/mode/1up?view=theater     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60 Atari gets Hawkeye to hawk their wares     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24/page/n3/mode/1up     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvNLr_AVTAM Atari reacts to Adam introduction with new 600XL bundle     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 54        https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-28/mode/1up Adam ditches wafers for "Data packs"     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf pg. 58     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleco_Adam Tomy enters computer market with free home trial     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 63        https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24/page/n6/mode/1up       https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/mode/1up     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomy_Tutor Acorn to launch BBC in US     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-07/page/n4/mode/1up?view=theater     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro#Export_initiatives Electron won't be BBC Micro compatible     https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews020-27Jul1983/page/n3/mode/1up     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Electron Sinclair's Microdrive arrives     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-28/page/n7/mode/1up?view=theater     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Microdrive Computer maker stocks tumble on Peanut rumors     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/28/business/computer-stocks-slide.html     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PCjr Osborne 1 price crashes     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/29/business/osborne-cuts-computer-price.html Mini and mainframe makers jump into micro fray     https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1983-07-rescan/page/n8/mode/1up Networking to come to IBM PC     https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1983-07-rescan/page/n8/mode/1up     SNL Weekend Update - https://youtu.be/GYyur7EEqns Milton Bradley brings speech recognition to TI     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60         http://www.mainbyte.com/ti99/hardware/mbx/mbx.html         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04SecKb_ejA Apple ii software coming to the PC     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n25/page/n7/mode/2up     https://www.hackster.io/news/quapple-clones-a-card-that-turns-an-ibm-pc-xt-into-an-apple-ii-plus-clone-98c9b75ecfda The many faces of the mouse compete for dominance at NCC     https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1983-07-rescan/page/n299/mode/1up?view=theater        http://www.le2.net/summa/     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Mouse TI signs up third parties     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60     https://www.mobygames.com/company/5680/texas-instruments-incorporated/games/ Romox  announces Gameport for TI     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 63       https://4apedia.com/index.php/Solid_State_Software_Command_Module     https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews019-20Jul1983/page/n7/mode/2up Commodore declares software price war     https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews019-20Jul1983/page/n3/mode/2up     https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews020-27Jul1983/page/n4/mode/1up     Gary Carlston- Broderbund https://www.patreon.com/posts/50036733 bye bye Jelly Monsters, Hello Cosmic Cruncher!     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-07/page/n4/mode/1up?view=theater     https://www.mobygames.com/game/138/pac-man/screenshots/vic-20/     https://www.mobygames.com/game/60882/cosmic-cruncher/      Commodore 64 and IBM conversions are coming     https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_3.4/page/n6/mode/1up?view=theater     https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_3.4/page/n29/mode/1up?view=theater Softsync announces C64 games     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60 Parker Bros expands into computer games     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 54     Tom Dusenberry - Parker Brothers - Hasbro - Atari  https://www.patreon.com/posts/42807419     https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/octopussy-the-james-bond-videogame-that-never-was/     https://web.archive.org/web/20150302072400/https://atariage.com/catalog_page.html?CatalogID=15¤tPage=12 Spinnaker goes cartridge     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24/page/n3/mode/1up Sierra offers one-to-one return policy with retailers     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/mode/1up Soft Switch simplifies piracy     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-14     https://www.c64copyprotection.com/vic-20-cartridge-to-tape/     https://www.mobygames.com/company/966/microplay-software/ Datasoft launches budget line     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf pg. 59     https://www.mobygames.com/company/20696/gentry-software/ WH Smith stops taking new ZX81 software     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-14 Palace Software is looking for programmers     https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews019-20Jul1983/page/n56/mode/1up     https://www.mobygames.com/company/1000/palace-software-ltd/ Dr. J and Larry Bird sign with EA     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 57       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gahan_Wilson        https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24/page/n1/mode/1up     https://www.mobygames.com/game/488/one-on-one/ First Star Software signs with Marvel     https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_3.4/page/n6/mode/1up?view=theater     https://www.mobygames.com/company/166/first-star-software-inc/      Sydney Software gets Johnny Hart licenses     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 54     https://www.mobygames.com/company/1569/sydney-development-corp/ Crash mail order places ads    https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews020-27Jul1983/page/n56/mode/1up?view=theater     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_(magazine) Videotex brings hope of standardized networked information and fears of privacy concerns     https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1983-07-rescan     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videotex Canadian Pacific Air brings games to planes     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 56       https://docplayer.net/205275760-From-electronic-to-video-gaming-computing-in-canada-historical-assessment-update.html Dan Bunten extols the virtues of play testing     https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_3.4/page/n25/mode/1up?view=theater     https://www.mobygames.com/person/8515/danielle-berry/ UCLA holds conference on graphic design in games     https://archive.org/details/Video_Games_Volume_1_Number_10_1983-07_Pumpkin_Press_US/page/n69/mode/1up?view=theater First Video Game Conference held in San Fransisco     Toys Hobbies & Crafts July 1983. Supercade coming to Saturday mornings     Replay July 1983, pg. 18 Vid Kid column brings game reviews to newspapers     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-07/page/n4/mode/1up?view=theater Julian Rignall is gaming champ     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-14/page/n4/mode/1up   Recommended Links: The History of How We Play: https://thehistoryofhowweplay.wordpress.com/ Gaming Alexandria: https://www.gamingalexandria.com/wp/ They Create Worlds: https://tcwpodcast.podbean.com/ Digital Antiquarian: https://www.filfre.net/ The Arcade Blogger: https://arcadeblogger.com/ Retro Asylum: http://retroasylum.com/category/all-posts/ Retro Game Squad: http://retrogamesquad.libsyn.com/ Playthrough Podcast: https://playthroughpod.com/ Retromags.com: https://www.retromags.com/ Games That Weren't - https://www.gamesthatwerent.com/ Sound Effects by Ethan Johnson of History of How We Play. Copyright Karl Kuras Find out on the VGNRTM These stories and many more on this episode of the VGNRTM with @QuarterPast83's Dale! Atari axes Ray Kassar, Nintendo launches the Famicom & Commodore's Jack Tramiel delivers the killing blow to Texas Instruments These stories and many more on this episode of the VGNRTM This episode we will look back at the biggest stories in and around the video game industry in July 1983.  As always,  we'll mostly be using magazine cover dates, and those are of course always a bit behind the actual events. Alex Smith of They Create Worlds is our cohost.  Check out his podcast here: https://www.theycreateworlds.com/ and order his book here: https://www.theycreateworlds.com/book Get us on your mobile device: Android:  https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly92aWRlb2dhbWVuZXdzcm9vbXRpbWVtYWNoaW5lLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz iOS:      https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/video-game-newsroom-time-machine And if you like what we are doing here at the podcast, don't forget to like us on your podcasting app of choice, YouTube, and/or support us on patreon! https://www.patreon.com/VGNRTM Send comments on Mastodon @videogamenewsroomtimemachine@oldbytes.space Or twitter @videogamenewsr2 Or Instagram https://www.instagram.com/vgnrtm Or videogamenewsroomtimemachine@gmail.com Links: 7 Minutes in Heaven: Manic Miner     Video Version:  https://www.patreon.com/posts/87996985     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Miner     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassed_Off          Corrections:     June 1983 Ep - https://www.patreon.com/posts/june-1983-85898642     Ethan's fine site The History of How We Play: https://thehistoryofhowweplay.wordpress.com/     When Nintendo Games Were on Atari | Gaming Historian  - Written by Ethan Johnson  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjRuV52Jk78      1963     Maloney sells Bally     https://archive.org/details/cashbox24unse_41/page/54/mode/1up?view=theater     http://podcast.theycreateworlds.com/e/lion-and-bally-manufacturing/ Lasers featured in Popular Electronics     https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Poptronics/60s/63/Pop-1963-07.pdf     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser 1973     Atari introduces Space Race     https://archive.org/details/cashbox35unse_3/page/39/mode/1up     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Race_(video_game) Bushnell goes to Europe     https://archive.org/details/cashbox35unse_3/page/39/mode/1up RCA announces mass production of LCDs     https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Poptronics/70s/1973/Poptronics-1973-07.pdf  pg. 23 Motorola announces Dynatac     https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Poptronics/70s/1973/Poptronics-1973-07.pdf     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_DynaTAC Associated Press uses lasers to transmit and computers to store images     https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Poptronics/70s/1973/Poptronics-1973-07.pdf  pg. 23 Digital Watches are the latest male fashion statement    https://www.nytimes.com/1973/07/21/archives/a-watch-that-takes-the-hard-time-out-of-telling-time.html Ira Bettleman graduates with psychology degree     https://archive.org/details/cashbox35unse_2/page/50/mode/1up     Noah Falstein - Lucasfilm https://www.patreon.com/posts/37807684 1983: Ray Kassar leaves Atari     https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-san-francisco-examiner-atari-inc-ray/62357592/       https://www.newspapers.com/article/star-tribune-resignation-of-ray-kassar-f/68994316/        https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/08/business/chief-is-replaced-at-troubled-atari.html     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/24/business/philip-morris-s-marlboro-man.html     Toys Hobbies and Crafts July 1983         https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/mode/1up     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/27/movies/shapiro-quits-at-warner-s.html      Atari distribution restructuring tanks     https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-baltimore-sun-atari-inc-deals-with-c/62356604/     The Video Game Crash 40th Anniversary - Part 1: Atari  https://www.patreon.com/posts/video-game-crash-75643983 Mattel, Atari, and TI announces even bigger losses     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/26/business/mattel-expects-to-post-large-loss.html      Toy and Hobby World July 1983     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/22/business/warner-posts-a-283.4-million-loss.html        https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/13/business/mattel-reshuffles-its-electronics-unit.html       https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/23/business/texas-instruments-lost-119.2-million-in-quarter.html        https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/19/business/rca-profits-rise-zenith-also-climbs.html     Playthings July 1983     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/25/business/earnings-up-sharply-in-quarter.html Williams profits down     Games People July 30, 1983, pg. 7 Mattel axes 260 in Electronics division     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/mode/1up TI lays off 750         https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/mode/1up Marketers brought in to take reigns of computer makers     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/27/business/selling-computers-like-soap.html        https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/13/business/mattel-reshuffles-its-electronics-unit.html UK tax authority preps for micro crash     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-21/mode/1up?view=theater      Rebates hit coinop     Replay July 1983 pg. 8 Gottlieb changes name     Replay July 1983 pg. 8     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottlieb Sente has Videa     https://archive.org/details/joystik_magazine-1983-07/page/n11/mode/2up     Roger Hector - Atari, Disney, Sega, Namco, Sente  https://www.patreon.com/posts/72058794 New tech needed to revitalize arcades     https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-modesto-bee-arcade-game-difficulties/85528989/        Play Meter July 15, 1983, pg. 36     https://www.thebasementarcade.com/roadtrips31.htm Magnetic strips poised to replace coins     Play Meter July 15, 1983, pg. 32     https://www.sacoacard.com/ VCTER wants you to book flights at your arcade     Play Meter July 1, 1983 pg. 40 Digital poker goes after the older audience     Replay July 1983 pg. 8     Replay July 1983, pg. 32      Tex Critter bows out of pizza-arcade market     Games People July 30, 1983, pg. 1     https://dreamfiction.fandom.com/wiki/Tex_Critter%27s_Pizza_Jamboree_(fictional) Nintendo's Tokyo stock debut dampened by lawsuit     Japan Economic Newswire  JULY 21, 1983, THURSDAY        https://www.mariowiki.com/Ikegami_Tsushinki     NINTENDO TO SPLIT STOCK, Copyright 1983 Jiji Press Ltd.Jiji Press Ticker Service, JULY 22, 1983, FRIDAY Nintendo and Sega enter the programmable console market     https://archive.org/details/login-september-1983/page/n89/mode/2up?q=%E4%BB%BB%E5%A4%A9%E5%A0%82     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_System     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SG-1000 Sega's SC3000 sales estimates jump     Sharp attention on Sega product , The Japan Economic Journal July 19, 1983,      Tuesday  Business Japan, July 1983 Atari 2600 Adapter for the 5200 ships     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 57     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_5200 Atari drops price of 5200     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60      Vectrex drops to $100     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60 Gameline won't leave retailers in the lurch     Playthings July 1983        https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 55 Electra Concepts introduces a trigger button     Playthings July 1983        https://www.ebay.com/itm/224626441270 Second hand mail order game exchanges boom     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/07/garden/secondhand-games-for-video-buffs.html Supercharger gets first licensee     The Video Game Update July 1983, pg. 50 Frob makes console game design affordable     The Video Game Update July 1983, pg. 50         http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-frob-26_29983.html Coleco axes Super Game Module 3     The Video Game Update July 1983, pg. 53        https://cancelled-games.fandom.com/wiki/ColecoVision_Super_Game_Module Mattel axes Intellivision 3     The Video Game Update July 1983, pg. 53        https://cancelled-games.fandom.com/wiki/ColecoVision_Super_Game_Module MB goes blam-blam on VCS     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf   pg. 57 20th Century Fox wants you to make them a better game     https://archive.org/details/1983-07-compute-magazine/page/n33/mode/1up?view=theater Fox sees bright future for their games     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24/page/n6/mode/1up Fox halves price of MASH on VCS     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/page/n2/mode/1up Colecovision games coming to Spectravideo     https://archive.org/details/Electronic_Fun_with_Computer_Games_Vol_01_No_09_1983-07_Fun_Games_Publishing_US/page/n7/mode/2up        https://www.msx.org/wiki/Spectravideo_SV-603 As action figures rise, consoles fall     Playthings July 1983      Activision opens UK subsidiary    https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews019-20Jul1983/page/n11/mode/1up     Gregory Fischbach Part 1 - Activision - Acclaim  https://www.patreon.com/posts/46578120 Atari drops the 1200XL     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf pg. 58'     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_8-bit_family#1200XL Atari introduces XL line     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf pg. 59        https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-28/page/n4/mode/1up?view=theater     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60 Atari gets Hawkeye to hawk their wares     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24/page/n3/mode/1up     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvNLr_AVTAM Atari reacts to Adam introduction with new 600XL bundle     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 54        https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-28/mode/1up Adam ditches wafers for "Data packs"     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf pg. 58     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleco_Adam Tomy enters computer market with free home trial     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 63        https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24/page/n6/mode/1up       https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/mode/1up     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomy_Tutor Acorn to launch BBC in US     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-07/page/n4/mode/1up?view=theater     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro#Export_initiatives Electron won't be BBC Micro compatible     https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews020-27Jul1983/page/n3/mode/1up     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Electron Sinclair's Microdrive arrives     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-28/page/n7/mode/1up?view=theater     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Microdrive Computer maker stocks tumble on Peanut rumors     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/28/business/computer-stocks-slide.html     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PCjr Osborne 1 price crashes     https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/29/business/osborne-cuts-computer-price.html Mini and mainframe makers jump into micro fray     https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1983-07-rescan/page/n8/mode/1up Networking to come to IBM PC     https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1983-07-rescan/page/n8/mode/1up     SNL Weekend Update - https://youtu.be/GYyur7EEqns Milton Bradley brings speech recognition to TI     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60         http://www.mainbyte.com/ti99/hardware/mbx/mbx.html         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04SecKb_ejA Apple ii software coming to the PC     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n25/page/n7/mode/2up     https://www.hackster.io/news/quapple-clones-a-card-that-turns-an-ibm-pc-xt-into-an-apple-ii-plus-clone-98c9b75ecfda The many faces of the mouse compete for dominance at NCC     https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1983-07-rescan/page/n299/mode/1up?view=theater        http://www.le2.net/summa/     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Mouse TI signs up third parties     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60     https://www.mobygames.com/company/5680/texas-instruments-incorporated/games/ Romox  announces Gameport for TI     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 63       https://4apedia.com/index.php/Solid_State_Software_Command_Module     https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews019-20Jul1983/page/n7/mode/2up Commodore declares software price war     https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews019-20Jul1983/page/n3/mode/2up     https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews020-27Jul1983/page/n4/mode/1up     Gary Carlston- Broderbund https://www.patreon.com/posts/50036733 bye bye Jelly Monsters, Hello Cosmic Cruncher!     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-07/page/n4/mode/1up?view=theater     https://www.mobygames.com/game/138/pac-man/screenshots/vic-20/     https://www.mobygames.com/game/60882/cosmic-cruncher/      Commodore 64 and IBM conversions are coming     https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_3.4/page/n6/mode/1up?view=theater     https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_3.4/page/n29/mode/1up?view=theater Softsync announces C64 games     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 60 Parker Bros expands into computer games     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 54     Tom Dusenberry - Parker Brothers - Hasbro - Atari  https://www.patreon.com/posts/42807419     https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/octopussy-the-james-bond-videogame-that-never-was/     https://web.archive.org/web/20150302072400/https://atariage.com/catalog_page.html?CatalogID=15¤tPage=12 Spinnaker goes cartridge     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24/page/n3/mode/1up Sierra offers one-to-one return policy with retailers     https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n26/mode/1up Soft Switch simplifies piracy     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-14     https://www.c64copyprotection.com/vic-20-cartridge-to-tape/     https://www.mobygames.com/company/966/microplay-software/ Datasoft launches budget line     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf pg. 59     https://www.mobygames.com/company/20696/gentry-software/ WH Smith stops taking new ZX81 software     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-14 Palace Software is looking for programmers     https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews019-20Jul1983/page/n56/mode/1up     https://www.mobygames.com/company/1000/palace-software-ltd/ Dr. J and Larry Bird sign with EA     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 57       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gahan_Wilson        https://archive.org/details/arcade_express_v1n24/page/n1/mode/1up     https://www.mobygames.com/game/488/one-on-one/ First Star Software signs with Marvel     https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_3.4/page/n6/mode/1up?view=theater     https://www.mobygames.com/company/166/first-star-software-inc/      Sydney Software gets Johnny Hart licenses     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 54     https://www.mobygames.com/company/1569/sydney-development-corp/ Crash mail order places ads    https://archive.org/details/PersonalComputerNews/PersonalComputerNews020-27Jul1983/page/n56/mode/1up?view=theater     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_(magazine) Videotex brings hope of standardized networked information and fears of privacy concerns     https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1983-07-rescan     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videotex Canadian Pacific Air brings games to planes     https://retrocdn.net/images/d/d0/ComputerEntertainer_US_Vol.2_04.pdf  pg. 56       https://docplayer.net/205275760-From-electronic-to-video-gaming-computing-in-canada-historical-assessment-update.html Dan Bunten extols the virtues of play testing     https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_3.4/page/n25/mode/1up?view=theater     https://www.mobygames.com/person/8515/danielle-berry/ UCLA holds conference on graphic design in games     https://archive.org/details/Video_Games_Volume_1_Number_10_1983-07_Pumpkin_Press_US/page/n69/mode/1up?view=theater First Video Game Conference held in San Fransisco     Toys Hobbies & Crafts July 1983. Supercade coming to Saturday mornings     Replay July 1983, pg. 18 Vid Kid column brings game reviews to newspapers     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-07/page/n4/mode/1up?view=theater Julian Rignall is gaming champ     https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1983-07-14/page/n4/mode/1up   Recommended Links: The History of How We Play: https://thehistoryofhowweplay.wordpress.com/ Gaming Alexandria: https://www.gamingalexandria.com/wp/ They Create Worlds: https://tcwpodcast.podbean.com/ Digital Antiquarian: https://www.filfre.net/ The Arcade Blogger: https://arcadeblogger.com/ Retro Asylum: http://retroasylum.com/category/all-posts/ Retro Game Squad: http://retrogamesquad.libsyn.com/ Playthrough Podcast: https://playthroughpod.com/ Retromags.com: https://www.retromags.com/ Games That Weren't - https://www.gamesthatwerent.com/ Sound Effects by Ethan Johnson of History of How We Play. 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В 45 выпуске подкаста Javaswag поговорили с Олегом Ненашевым об истории Jenkins, Continuous Delivery Foundation и Jenkins X 00:01:34 О себе 00:06:40 История и идея Дженкинса 00:13:36 Облачка и солнышки 00:16:48 Чем Дженкинс уникален 00:18:56 Jenkins как CI 00:23:14 Пайплайны 00:33:08 Как тестировать пайплайны 00:40:54 Кулстори о применениях Дженкинса 00:45:42 Альтернативы Jenkins 00:52:02 Уязвимости, и как проект с ними борется 01:03:56 Переход на Java 11/17 01:12:10 CloudBees 01:19:18 Continuous Delivery Foundation 01:26:32 Jenkins X 01:31:42 Jenkinsfile Runner 01:33:36 Что можно улучшить в архитектуре Дженкинса 01:38:10 Unpopular Opinion 01:43:36 Как контрибьютить в Дженкинс Гость - https://linktr.ee/onenashev, https://twitter.com/oleg_nenashev Ссылки: https://www.jenkins.io/ https://cd.foundation/ https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkinsfile-runner https://www.jenkins.io/participate/ Errata: Олег оговорился, что проект Woodpecker основан на Spinnaker, но это не так. Он основан на Drone CI. Кип сейф! 🖖

On this weeks show we welcome Luke Newton from Sweat Fitness in Portsmouth. Many will know Luke from his PT business and also as organiser of the Portsmouth Fitness Festival that used to take place on Castle field, and more recently im Gunwarf Quays. Luke joins us to tell us not only all about his business and the festival, but also the amazingly exciting Power up the Tower! Get this - an actual world class stair running event - in Portsmouth. Luke reveals all the details including some special guests and participants who are flying over for the race itself. It really does sound like a really cool and unique opportunity to try make it to the top! And to top it all off, Luke has been kind enough to drop us a discount code for the podcast! That's right, a whopping 20% off too, so when you book, use the code - POMPEYRUNNERS and you get more bang for your buck. Thank you to Luke and the team for that x And a really quick show intro today as my lovely co-host Dave has been catching some recovery time from training in Venice, which I'm sure we'll get to hear about on the next show soon. Enjoy the content everyone and we hope to see some of you at the race x

In this episode we speak to Steve Furber, a leading scientist in the Human Brain Project. He talks about how he developed his interest in computing at university, his work on the SpiNNaker neuromorphic computer, and his advice to young people to ‘keep as many doors open as possible.'Furber is also the ICL Professor of Computer Engineering in the Department of Computer Science at the University of Manchester. 

Steve Furber is a seminal computer scientist, mathematician and hardware designer whose work includes the BBC Microcomputer and the ARM 32-bit RISC microprocessor which can be found in over 100 billion devices today.Steve studied both Maths followed by a PhD in Aerodynamics at Cambridge University before joining Herman Hauser and Chris Curry at Acorn Computers. For the next decade, he would work with a first-class team of engineers and designers to revolutionise the home computer market before he and Sophie Wilson went on to design the ARM processor with a relatively small team and budget and with little inkling of the consequence it might bring to the world.In 1990, Steve left Acorn moved to Manchester where he is now Professor of Computer Engineering at the university there. He was charged with leading research into asynchronous systems, low-power electronics and neural engineering which  led to the SpiNNaker project - a super computer incorporating a million ARM processors which are optimised for computational neuroscience. He is basically trying to reverse engineer the brain – a lofty ambition even by his own admission.In this wide-ranging conversation, we discuss Steve's life journey from studying maths with professors such as the famed John Conway and Sir James Lighthill to the highs and lows of building the BBC Micro and the story behind the ARM 32-bit RISC microprocessor.I thoroughly enjoyed talking to Steve and am overly excited about his SpiNNaker project which we also discuss today.Enjoy!--------------Steve Furber info / SpiNNaker info / Micro Men filmDanielle on Twitter @daniellenewnham and  Instagram @daniellenewnham   / Newsletter 

In this episode, Lexman interviews Francis Collins, a researcher at the National Institutes of Health and a winner of the 1978 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. They discuss the concept of hagiocracy and the importance of using evidence in decision-making. Collins also talks about his work on the spinnaker theory of gene expression and the discovery of a new species of clavicytheriums.

My guest is Vishal Tolani, CEO of Dartmouth Brands. He's helped bring multiple watch brands into the world under the Dartmouth umbrella such as Spinnaker, Avi-8 and Earnshaw. As well as playing in the world of brands, he's also deeply embedded in the watch industry as a second-generation manufacturer.Vishal and I talk about what it means to be made in Hong Kong, what keeps him up at night as the custodian of the family business, and how he hopes it will one day live on without him. We discuss what goes into creating that beautiful combination of art and engineering that resides on your wrist, and in a time when (thanks to mobile phones) the idea of timekeeping is more emotional than essential, we discuss the primacy of storytelling and brand-building in order to infuse a product with real heart.We also talk about the positive side-effects of the advancing years, the peace that comes with it, as well as how he finds inspiration in the people all around him. I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.Links:https://www.dartmouthbrands.co.uk/vishaltolani@gmail.comHome of the podcast:Coach & Speaker Profile: www.michaelxcampion.comLinkedIn: @michaelxcampionIG: @michaelxcampion

This week's message reminds us that motivation is a do-it-to-yourself proposition. Don't expect to become motivated by some outside influence. The key is to identify what it is you are after and then devise a detailed plan on how to achieve it. If your objective is personally gratifying and meaningful the chances of you achieving it is better than good. Mike will clarify this message by sharing his sailing spinnaker sail story with you. This happened back in the mid eighties but the message holds true today.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

TCW Podcast Episode 162 - Spinnaker Software   Often we laugh at educational games and software.  We tend to view the products as jokes and something that cannot fully succeed.  In our look at Spinnaker Software, we learn that there is more to it.  The company was short-lived but was founded by people with a deep passion for technology and gaming. They released games, and software that helped to show that there is more one can do with a computer than just drills.  If one of them went on to become a major World Of Warcraft raid leader it can't all be bad right?   Facemaker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seh6DyUPV8w Story Machine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpbrcpfVwPY Snooper Troops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJOFAPPfZ2I Alphabet Zoo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1m4Lt-7cY8 Adventure Creator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb_7-rlocKo Rendezvous with Rama: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VMbPzf_pq8 Fahrenheit 451: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnET12whCYs Dragonworld: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ens1xbetX88 Amazon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTojZBzyFrI Shadowkeep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igXOcweWz_M Below the Roots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI87UAC3JzQ WindowWorks: https://winworldpc.com/product/pfs-windowworks/2x   New episodes on the 1st and 15th of every month!   TCW Email: feedback@theycreateworlds.com  Twitter: @tcwpodcast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theycreateworlds Alex's Video Game History Blog: http://videogamehistorian.wordpress.com Alex's book is available for preorder and should be released through CRC Press in December 2019: http://bit.ly/TCWBOOK1     Intro Music: Josh Woodward - Airplane Mode -  Music - "Airplane Mode" by Josh Woodward. Free download:http://joshwoodward.com/song/AirplaneMode  Outro Music: RolemMusic - Bacterial Love - http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Rolemusic/Pop_Singles_Compilation_2014/01_rolemusic_-_bacterial_love    Copyright: Attribution: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Chris is joined by Andrea DeSimone. Andrea is a former retail and restaurant broker, and co-owner of Spinnaker, a Mediterranean restaurant she runs with her husband, Chef Rob Spinnaker. Listen in as Chris and Andrea discuss the importance of operational mobility, customer service and what it's like to buy and run a boutique restaurant!  

Hosted by Geof Wheelwright, this Arm Viewpoints episode goes deep with Professor Steve Furber and Professor Christian Mayr, to learn more about the SpiNNaker projects, spiking neural networks and what the future holds for this AI technology.

More than a decade ago just after Amanda Rand had given birth to her third child, an unexpected health scare shook her world. Amanda takes us back to the day she had a stroke and how that affected her life and approach to business leadership at Portland wealth management firm Spinnaker Trust, as well as her involvement with the American Heart Association's Go Red for Women initiative.

“The Rock Boat Community has been very inviting, encouraging, very warm, and crazy - in a good way - at the same time. There isn't another community that comes close to that inclusion …”Dave LaGrande, keyboardist for TRB hosts Sister Hazel, joins The BoatCast to talk all things TRB!Most boaters know that Dave LaGrande joined Sister Hazel to play keyboard on their new album and 10 years later, has been become a staple with the band. But did you know, he was actually a performer on a sister Norwegian ship (playing in the Spinnaker)? He praises the unconditional support from TRB community and memories of his first sail away show with the band and hanging up in The Haven. He loves collaboration and recalls sprinting on TRB XXI from the SH finale to Andrew Leahey and the subsequent adrenaline. Dave gives great advice first time Rock Boaters (check out the Brazilian Steakhouse apparently) and encourages them to go find “Your new favorite band” .. for Mark, favorite band honors will always go to Dave's band, Sister Hazel… Go out and buy their new album, Before The Amplifiers 2 now!!!Check out Sister Hazel on the Road!Dave LaGrande/Sister Hazel can be found at: Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/davelagrandehttps://www.facebook.com/SisterHazelWebsite:https://www.davelagrande.comHttps://www.sisterhazel.comInstagram:https://instagram.com/davelagrande?utm_medium=copy_linkhttps://instagram.com/sisterhazelband?utm_medium=copy_linkYouTube:https://youtube.com/c/DaveLaGrandehttps://youtube.com/c/sisterhazelThe BoatCast would like to thank our sponsor, lifecoachingforwomenphysicians.com, for supporting us in promoting Rock Boat Artists. If you want to get the word out about these artists and are interested in sponsoring The Boatcast, please email Chris at: ChristopherRhoad@gmail.com.

    In April of 2020 I posted "Of Reed and Breath" which is an ambient sax mix. You can find that mix here: http://lowlightmixes.blogspot.com/2020/04/of-reed-and-breath.html https://www.mixcloud.com/lowlight/of-reed-and-breath/   When I created that one I wasn't sure how it would work. Turns out, ambient sax is a great theme to build a mix on. I've been planning on a follow up for a long time and it's finally here.   Since that first mix two years ago I have totally bought into wind instruments in ambient and modern composition music. That's why my fav album from last year was "Departures" by mastroKristo(who makes an appearance in this mix). From Clariloops to Sam Gendel to Dirk Serries to Andrew Heath, sax and other woodwinds have become a big part of my ambient listening habit. All the tracks in this mix are excellent but I especially love the cut from Matt Borghi & Michael Teager and the cut from Dirk Serries. Perfect combo of sax and ambient. I also have to mention the final track Max Richter's On the Nature of Daylight by Signum Saxophone Quartet. That track is one of my favorites of all time so when I found a sax quartet cover of it I nearly lost my mind. Perfect way to end the mix. Cheers!   T R A C K L I S T : 00:00    Ethan Braun + Sam Gendel - 1/2 SCULPTURE [Rio Nilo 66 2021] 04:14    mastroKristo - The Breath [Depatures 2021] 07:05    Phillip Schroeder - On Occasion [Passage Through a Dream 2015] 10:25    Jefre Cantu-Ledesma - For Mothers [A Little Night Music Aural Apparitions from the Geographic North 2020] 14:15    Matt Borghi and Michael Teager - Stationary Voyage [Subterranean Bearings 2020] 19:25    Dirk Serries & Trösta - Oceanus [Island On The Moon 2021] 26:22    Night Gestalt - Between Two Breaths [Thousand Year Waves 2021] 31:34    Fuubutsushi - Cicada Season [Fuubutsushi 2020] 34:00    Carmen Villain - Agua Azul [Sketch for Winter IX: Perlita 2021] 38:25    M. Sage - Spinnaker on a Southerly [The Wind of Things 2021] 41:14    Klaus Gesing, Björn Meyer, Samuel Rohrer - What We Leave [Amiira 2016] 45:52    Pino Palladino, Blake Mills - Notes with Attachments [Notes with Attachments 2021] 47:37    Sam Gendel & Shin Sasakubo - Reeds [Sam Gendel & Shin Sasakubo 2021] 49:54    Okomotive, Joel Schoch - Sail, my Friend! [FAR: Lone Sails Soundtrack 2018] 53:00    Signum Saxophone Quartet - On the Nature of Daylight for Saxophone Quartet and Cello [Echoes 2021] 59:13    end

"Business as usual" is no longer enough to successfully grow and innovate. OEMs now need to approach venture growth with a creative combination of "build, buy and partner," while making efforts to not stifle innovation by holding acquisitions, incubators, and the like too close. We're diving into growth venture strategy in the latest episode of Future Perfect Tech with the founder and managing director of Spinnaker Venture Partners, Mark Roth, and president and founder of Harbor Research, Glen Allmendinger. Mark Roth is founder and Managing Director of Spinnaker Venture Partners. Spinnaker, as a Venture Development firm, has been involved in the identification, funding, launch, and development of innovative early stage entrepreneurial ventures for the past 15 years. Mark has over 20 years experience as leading and developing venture based start-ups and as a management consultant providing leadership on new product development, innovation management, and business origination. Mark has held leadership R&D positions in Rockwell International, Honeywell, and Engelhard Minerals and Chemicals and has provided management consulting on corporate and business development issues to emerging technology businesses. Internationally, he has led the origination of energy related businesses in the EU, Eastern Europe and Russia. Mark has served as a board member and director of numerous manufacturing industry and technology consortia including the National Center for Manufacturing Sciences, the Microelectronics Computer Consortium, the Software Engineering Institute and the Software Productivity Consortium. He has a degree in Chemical Engineering from the Stevens Institute of Technology and has affiliations with the Tuck School of Business and the Czech Technical University. Glen Allmendinger has been responsible for managing all of Harbor Research's consulting and research activities since its inception. Glen has worked with a very broad range of leading technology innovators, product OEMs, and service providers assisting them with strategy and market development for new smart product, systems, and services opportunities. He has participated in pioneering research and consulting work in the Smart Buildings, Healthcare, Retail, Transportation, Energy and Industrial arenas helping clients to determine the scale and structure of emerging opportunities, competitive positioning, and design of new business models. In 2005, Glen co-authored the pioneering article “Four Strategies for The Age Of Smart Services,” published in the Harvard Business Review. Glen has also authored thought leading articles for a wide range of publications including, The Economist and The Wall Street Journal, as well as being a frequent speaker in industry forums. Learn more at https://harborresearch.com/future-perfect-tech/

How good is our understanding of the human brain, and how close are we to being able to simulate it? In this episode Steve Furber discusses SpiNNaker, an artificial neural network realized in hardware that incorporates over one million processor cores, and which is designed to simulate 1% of the neurons in the Human brain.   Find out more about Steve's work here: https://apt.cs.manchester.ac.uk/people/sfurber/ Follow him on twitter here: https://twitter.com/furbersteve?lang=en

Speakers: Nima Kaviani and Manabu McCloskeyAs containerization becomes an integral part of deploying software reliably, traceability and visibility over what gets deployed becomes ever more important. Ideally, as part of the deployment process, release engineers would be able to track deployed containers back to the right version of the written code, investigate changes, and gain insight over the build process. While baking code into container artifacts has been a core part of Spinnaker, the introduction of CiBuild as a mechanism to increase insights into what gets built, is a new feature enabled in a collaboration between Netflix and AWS. In this talk, we will discuss architecture, implementation, and enablement of the new CiBuild plugin, and how it empowers the Spinnaker community to integrate their build systems, code repositories, and container registries into their Spinnaker deployments.Support the show (https://cd.foundation/podcast/podcast-submission-form/)

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For more information on Alan, visit: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPKTLpvmGrT0JN_NGHv4BNQ/featured Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/AlanCadiz/posts Lesson business: https://hstwindsurfing.com/hst/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hstmaui/ I hope you enjoyed this episode, more interviews coming soon!   Episode Transcript: Aloha. It's Robert Stehlik with blue planet surf. Welcome to the third episode of the blue planet show all about Wingfoot foiling. And this episode is with Alan CodeHS and he is such an inspiration from the very early days of wing filing. He's put out great videos and content and all is always on the latest equipment. So it's really cool to be able to talk to him about the history of our young sport. And I just wanted it to say, honestly, that, I'm a little bit of an introvert. So for me to be able to reach out to these people and ask all these questions and what I want to know about. Yeah. And all that from my home office in the garage is such a cool thing and I really enjoying it. But to be honest, also, it is a lot of work to, set the appointments, prep for the interviews, film it, edit it, and then post it. So I'm not going to be able to do this on a weekly basis. But I'm shooting for every two to four weeks. I'm going to post a new show. This is my third show and I have another show lined up with Annie Reichert another interview coming up soon, and then I have a few more in in the works. Definitely going to keep them coming, but just not on a weekly basis. And of course, if you can't watch this whole video on YouTube, it's, it is a long interview. You can also listen to it as a podcast and on Android or Apple devices, you just open your podcast app and search for the blue planet show, and you'll be able to listen to it while you're driving or doing chores and so on. You can do other things while you're listening as well. So without further ado, please welcome the third guests to the blue planet show. Alan, Kunduz welcome to the show. It's great to have you. You've done so many great videos about wing filing and teaching people out to wink. I really appreciate that. And thank you for joining me on the show. So can we start a little bit about your background and just tell us a little bit how, your background and how you got into wink foiling eventually. Thank you, Robert. Thank you for having me on the show. I've enjoyed your first step. So it's yeah, in a wing foiling for me, like so many people have been, life-changing, it's so addictive and my path to wing foiling has been by chance, really. I come from a background of water sports But it turned out that my neighbor put together a wing to try on a foil board. Let me back up yeah start with how you grew up and all that, like way from the beginning. I'm from Kailua. Boy went to Caldwell high school grew up right near Kyla beach, just a short 32nd walk down to the beach and We lived in enchanted lakes when I was I think I went to third grade elementary, and then we moved down to the beach when I was 12 and it didn't take long before I started surfing. And the neighbor had a Hoby cat that I had access to. And when I. Turned 18. I started wind surfing. I worked at Froome sailing company. I don't know if you remember that little boat store, as you come into Kyla. And Dean was my mentor in the early days, taught me how to sail, set me up with my first wind surfer. Gave me time off to go winging or sorry, wind surfing. When the wind was up on and back then wind surfing was the rage, the addiction. And I. I went to college, but then I dropped out so that I could go wind surfing. I had a opportunity to go to Malaysia, to compete for Neil pride back then. And I thought this opportunity doesn't come along too often. I'm going to take a semester off and go to Malaysia and wind surf. And that turned into about a 10 year career in wind surfing, competitive wind surfing. And I ended up on Maui. The wind is so strong over here. I came over for a month to a two Winser for a month prior to one of the contests. And after the contest was over, I was pretty settled in and there wasn't any need to rush home and ended up staying on Maui on. And I had spent a number of years training and competing and, but I wondered, am I going back to college? What am I going to do? And I fumbled into teaching wind surfing and discovered I had a knack for it. And before too long, had a nice little business going teaching. High-end wind surfing, mainly jiving and water starting. But then people wanted to have their family and friends learn. So I started a beginner program and. The school grew. I've been based in high-tech surf sports for the last 30 years, but I worked with the majority of the shops here on Maui, teaching their clientele, the different water sports. So windsurfing was the main thing, but of course, when there was no wind, we'd teach them just going back to Kailua, growing up in Kayla. That was when Robbie nationals grew up in Kailua too. So did you went surf together with those guys? Robbie and Pete Cabrina and those guys, or? Funny, he has Pete Cabrini lived right next door, right over the next fence. Yeah. And I remember watching him wind surf and doing his first jumps and he. He was shaping boards and he was an inspiration. So I thought, okay, I gotta do this too. Robbie traveled in different circles. He was a little bit younger and it seemed to me he was always off on tour, but he brother, I went to school with his brother and Randy. Yeah. And we were partners in crime going over to windsurf diamond head. And I spent more time with Robbie. I'm sorry with Randy. Okay. Okay. So when, or how did the transition to wing foiling happened? Actually? Do you still windsurf or are you just mostly wing foiling now? Not so much wind surfing. I still run the wind surf school, although COVID has changed that right now, but my daughter is more into wind surfing than whinging. Although I'm trying to convert her to wing surfing on. From wind surfing kite surfing came along and that was all the rage. So I jumped into that and I live the kite surfing, eat, sleep tight surf, eat, sleep, kite surf did some competitions and did the whole peak, but then got over it and got more into sub paddling. We did a lot of sub. In fact, I got a picture here I can share. Yeah let's do some screen sharing. So we get a little bit of more visual stuff too. This was, we did a lot of competition. I don't know how many hundreds of Kosta runs I've done from a LICO down to Kahoot Harbor. Wouldn't be the equivalent of Hawaii, Kai to diamond head kind of thing on. That looks like one of the early SAC boards. Is that the one? No it's styrofoam, but yes, you're right. It's one of Mark rapper, horse SIC boards or sandwich Island construction. Yeah. And Mark is good. Friend of mine known him for decades. He and I, we did the sup paddling and then Kailani. Showed up with that sup board with the foil on it, that kind of rocked the world. And we looked at that and we're like, wow, that looks so cool. And backing up a couple of weeks from that video review Mark, perhaps worse. And my neighbor, Ken winter, and I were having dinner. And after a couple of bottles of wine, we've talked about. Taking one of Ken's foils and putting it on my board and Mark would do the classwork and we thought about, okay, we're going to do this. We're going to put the foil on the set board and we're going to try it out. And it never happened. And about two weeks later, Kai comes out with that video of him going down the coast now putting it together as one thing, but making it work, what Kyle did was exceptional, and I don't know if we would've had the. I don't think, I don't think we would have stuck with it as hard as it was, but after watching him, we were inspired. So we did get some foil boards, both Ken and Mark. And I, we got the foil boards and we started going from Alico when it was blowing 25, 30 knots. And right away, we learned it was really hard. And I had no foil experience and people were telling me, Oh, you got to learn behind a boat. You got to learn in the surf. And I'm like, I don't want to do that. I just want to do it going down the coast. And I was convinced I could do it. And eventually I got a LICO 200 and I could do it and I could stay up for hundreds of yards at a time. And at that point, everyone else was getting pretty good. I can remember one episode where we went. Was that on a really long race board, or what kind of board were you using at that time? At that point we were using I think they were like eight foot sup boards and we were just starting to figure out, and these were Mark was making them custom boards. We're just starting to figure out that the shorter, the board, the more easier it was to pump you didn't have that swing weight up front right on. We were getting smaller and smaller boards. And I have another picture here. Let me see if I can cue it up here. This board here. This was my latest sup board that Mark had shaped for me. I think it was just under six feet. That's about 85 liters had just the front strap, which I use to help pull up on the board, trying to get up on foil. And so it was about this time. That we were trying to go down the coast and having some success. Ken winner was right there with us and he actually was a skilled foiler. He could win sir foil. He could kite foil, but sup foil was tough for him. And the board he had was 130 liter fiberglass board. It was pretty heavy. And trying to pump that up on foil was really taking its toll on his shoulders. One afternoon he was out there in the driveway with this little inflatable wing and, we had seen wings have been around for a long time. And Ken winter is your neighbor, right? So you can see him in his, in your neighbor's driveway playing around with his inflatable toy. Yes. A little background on Ken he's been involved in wind surfing and water sports, his whole life. I first met him in Kailua and the, I think it was 1981 or 1982 Pan-Am windsurfing world cup. And he actually won the event. So I didn't really know him. I knew he was the winner. Kan winner was the winner. And then later on, when I went on tour, I competed with him the number of different venues. But he's always stayed with it as a board designer. Is that kite designer, windsurf designer, and probably the last few years more kite surfing. So he's he's getting new prototypes all the time out there, testing them in the Maui waters and the of wind. And so I knew he had access to, to prototypes. So anyway, he's out there with this inflatable wing and my first impression it was something like you'd get at K-Mart, a little blow up toy. And I thought, what is he doing with that? Can you explain that he was going to use it to get up on foil and go down the coast with us? And I thought he really wants to be out there with us. And then the entertainment began, we'd go out and Alico. And Mark and I would make a left turn and head towards Colley Harbor, and Ken would be going out to see like, where's he going? He'd go over the horizon before we'd see him. And then we'd seen him coming back and I didn't know it at the time, but he had a hard time. I'm going deep, a goofy foot. He needed to switch to regular foot to go deep or to go straight down, wind. And so it was difficult for him and he didn't like most of us, we go to the Flatwater spot, in the Harbor or maybe down to canola, I think on a wahoo, you go over to where is it near Pearl Harbor. I've seen some videos that K lagoon Island. Yeah, that's a good, big, beautiful spot there. So remember we're going out in 25, 30 knots, and he's trying to figure out how to go down wind. And it was entertaining for Mark and he had incredible yard sales where it's like, Oh, is he okay? Wait. Okay. Yeah, I see him. He's back on his board. Did our, Oh no, he's lost his wig. You'll give chance. We'll get the ring. And that happened a few times. And so this went on, I think it was may of 18 when you start. So not that long ago, really think about how quickly the sports progressed. That's true. So it was later towards the fall that Mark and I were waiting for him. And I saw him coming down the swell and he was surfing right. And surfing, left and surfing. And each time he would turn the wing. And I just looked down. I said, that is poetry in motion. I'm ready to try this. And at the end of the run he let me try it. And I fumbled out and fumbled in. But just that short little run, I got to my feet and got it going for a few seconds. And I'm like, okay, I want to try this some more. So that first wing was that like a prototype made by duotone or was it like who, how, who made it and how was it made, built and stuff like that? Duotone has a factory and they, I'm not even sure where it is in Asia or wherever they make their product. And he dials up a plan on his computer, sends it off via email and a short time later he's the FedEx truck is pulling up. Okay. So that first one, did it have a boom, like the wing foil or very first one had a stretch on it. Okay. And the, they had sewn some webbing on it. That was so flimsy that just after a couple, three or four runs, the webbing has had peeled off. Not, it just deteriorated. And then his first one with a boom, I'm not sure what he did. I think he went to the hardware store and he bought a mop or something and removed the, he had the dowel and the little brackets, and then he had lashed those brackets on. And then not too long after that, he was getting a guy here on Maui to 3d print a front end. It was about that time that I took an interest in wanting to try it. So we went down to canola and the first day I, like so many of us that got my knees were rubbed raw and what I was getting rides and I was staying up wind. And remember, I'd come to the sport with knowing how to foil and. Knowing how to sail both wind surf and kite surf. So the wing was pretty intuitive for me and knowing how to foil it came together. And I'm sure I've seen other people just step on and go right from the beginning, but Yeah, I think you have the background in wind surfing and you know how to use a foil, then it's a very easy transition. That's what Zane was saying too. Like the very first time he jumped on it, he was already trying to backflip and civic guts. Yeah, but that's in St. Schweitzer. So yeah. Anyway, the first few the first, second day I tried it, I fell on the boom and broke the front end, the 3d 3d printed front end. And I said, Ken, I can make one that won't break. I've got a TIG welder. And I welded up as simple front end and we were able to lash that on and that that made a huge difference. In the tightness of the rig now, coming from a windsurf background, I've always preferred the boom. It just feels more natural to hold the boom on. And I think Ken he's do a tone, has a couple of different models. They have the unit which has the wing, the handles as well. But I prefer the echo style. Yeah. I'm the same way. Cause this is my windsurfing background. I really liked the boom. And just being able to move your hands around and describe the boom without looking for the handle and stuff like that. But I guess recently I started using wings with handles too, and I kinda got used to that. And there's some advantages to to that, to the handles. I think one thing about the duo Tom booms is that they're add quite a bit of weight to the wing. And you do notice that when you try a later wing. They are coming out with a new model here soon, but the time by the time this interview airs, I think they'll have announced their new product. And I've got some video of that. Yeah, let's talk about that new that's the duotone slick wing, right? We've already seen the videos and stuff of it, which is an interesting concept. So it combines a an inflatable struck with a stiff boom kind of attached to it. Yes, let me see. So it's the slick incorporates the boom into the strep. One of the it's a lot lighter. Yeah. I don't know all the details, but I can tell you that the length of the boom here is the same for all the different sizes. I think they're going to go from a two and a half meter all the way up to a seven meter. With half increments. So four, four, five, five Oh five, five, et cetera, on. And the same boom will fit all the models. So you can just buy one boom for your quiver, or you can buy a boon for each one. Now they also come in carbon as well as the aluminum and the aluminum boons are gonna have a little bit of a oval shape to them, which are very comfortable on your hands. And it gives you a sense of where the wing is without looking at it, what position that wing is in. I know that the carbon one is about a half a pound lighter than the aluminum one and just the size of it is going to be considerably lighter than the echo. And the boom just slides into these nylon pouches on the front and back, I guess it looks like it. Yes. Now the, when you S when you look at that front, let me see if I can get a little bit better angle here that front attachment that's going to be changed slightly. There's there's going to be some padding, some webbing straps that actually Velcro to hold that in. Apparently the guys in Europe, when they were doing tricks, where they back winded that was coming loose. So they've modified it. This is it. This is actually not a production wing. It's one of the prototypes with the logos on it. So there's still a few more changes to make, but for the most part, this is what the wings will look like. So I'm wondering you're saying the boom is the same length for all sizes. So on the bigger wings, have you. Like sometimes I like to put my hand way in the back, like when you're doing a duck jive tag type of turn or or going steep up when you, you want to put your hand way back sometimes. Is it, do you ever feel like you want to put your hand further back then the boom goes or does that no, it's not an issue because the wing is so much tighter. That the range of sheeting in and sheeting out is very tight. It's very tight wing. I don't think I haven't had that problem. So how does it feel on the wave when you're luffing it behind you? Attracts really nice, better than the unit was. I haven't written the unit. I'm sorry. I meant echo the echo, the one. Yes. It's better than the echo. Now that the, if you think of the center strut as on, but the center stride is like the keel in the wind, or like the tail on a kite, it's going to keep the wing pointed into the wind because the strut acts like the rudder echo never had that. And that's one reason why it oscillated so much. Oh yeah. That makes sense. You have to remember a little bit back in. It was 18 that can started and the fall of 18 on it started to get out in videos and social media. And all of a sudden everyone was interested, not just Enthusiasts, but manufacturers, can you make a little video of it? Like action or dispensary? So one of the Delta things with, unlike the echo with the center, strut, it floats. Now if you're used to, that's nothing new. If you're using a wing that on has a center structure. But it's really nice compared to the echo when it sits on the water. It doesn't say that the bloom doesn't sink in when the wind catches it. Yeah. That's nice. Now, when do you think this will be actually in ready in the stores? When can we get our first shipment at blue planet? You're asking the wrong guy here. That's the one thing that's been frustrating me with the duo times is they're kinda hard to get and hard to know when we can actually get them, I think it's not just do a Tom. I think some of it can be chalked up to, the worldwide pandemic, they had to shut their factories down just like we did to, shut our restaurants down and on the supply chain was effected. I know that they were having trouble getting cloth. And this is just secondhand information I'm hearing from my neighbor. I think he did tell me that they have produced a number of units already. But then there's shipping, if it's coming by boat and you heard about that content container ship that went down well, not went down, but all the containers fell over. Yeah. Apparently high-tech had a number of F1 wings. In one of those containers. Oh, wow. So a lot of products was lost there. So it's, I don't know if it's just duo tone. Maybe the other manufacturers have different sources, but no, it's the same. I guess ozone has their own factory, so they're Little bit more it's more clear, like how long it's going to take and when they're going to ship it and stuff like that, you can, it's easier to predict, but yeah, I know. I know. Everybody's I know just the materials you have to order six months in advance. So this is a video that I put together with the little GoPro speedometer. And what I can tell you about the performance of these wings is that they are head and shoulders better than anything I've written. They're super tight. They go up wind unbelievable that the outline. You know that they have a square shape, so that wing tip, you can bring it right down low to the water. And it's really efficient. If the wing tip does catch, it clears really easily. Yeah. They're really tight. Now this is a four or five though that I'm using. And this was just a couple of days ago. The wind's been cranking here. And I was really powered up with this four or five or 20 miles per hour. That's pretty fast. So that's a port or starboard. Tack is my weak side. I'm a regular foot. So this is my stronger side. And this is costly Harbor that we're looking at. Turn the sound down. Whoa, there you go. At 26 miles per hour. That's. Yeah, that's impressive. What foil are you using? What, yeah. What do you have any advice on the foils on I'm using a GOFO? Gofoil on, I have all their I have a lot of the different models on I mentioned earlier. I have the 200, that's where I started and it's where I start. When I'm teaching people, I use the 200 on. I also have the GL series as well as the NLS and the one I'm writing in this video is it's actually a custom on towing. I think Al's only made a few. I think he, he gave one to some of the big wave to tow surfers on the North shore of Oahu. Slick. I heard about that. I think Derek Hamas, Saki has one of those, maybe I think I've seen it. So it's not one that's I don't know if he's planning to bring that to market. Let's see 28 miles an hour was your top speed. It looked like that's pretty, pretty amazing. Yeah. Now here's another wing. This is from more recently and it's turn the sound down. This is one of the prototypes. From several months ago I'm lucky enough that can, let's meet, use some of the older the stuff that didn't make the cut and, he'll make a wing and he'll figure out, okay, this works really well. And this doesn't work so well. And there's been a number of people on Maui that have been recipients of the seconds on the really bad ones end up in the trash. The really good ones he keeps. And then some of the others like this one, and this is a three-three and it's blowing. Gosh, it was gusting up to 40 this day. And my first run, the wing was under inflated. My wife was using it. I don't think she pumped it up hard enough. So I came back and pumped it up and then did another run. Now the foil that I'm using is I don't think it's going to be available unless out puts it into production, but he is working on another wing that another foil that is foils are underwater wings are in the air working on another foil. That is considerably faster. He, let me take a run on it and I didn't have the speedometer when I used it. But it felt really fast. I'm hoping he'll get me one of those when they come into production. Yeah. And then, I guess faster foils are usually smaller surface area and thinner profile, that's and then. More high aspect type of shape. Is that what makes them fast? Would you say? Or what's how did it look? Smaller, thinner equals speed, but of course you're going to need more wind and more skill to get up the speed to get going and get up on the foil. Yeah. One thing that I've found now, when I first started teaching, I had them LICO two 80. I don't know if you have one of those. Yeah. That was like super bouncy when they went on the original mass, right? Yeah. I read that in the early days. The two 80 I thought would be really good for teaching people and it does foil it about a walking speed, but there's so much drag that you really have to push the thing hard. And for people who are, excuse me, for people who are just learning, how to use the wing, trying to power that wing, to push the board up on foil it. And actually the 200 people did better on the 200 because they, there was less drag and they could get it up to foil speed easier. And what I've found is that in my own learning, as I've graduated down in smaller and smaller wings, that. The tiny wing does take more speed to get going, but there's less drag to push it through the water. So it seems like you can get up to that takeoff speed. Easier. Does that make sense? Yeah, totally. Makes sense. Yeah, I've got that same experience. So when you say you still use the Maliko 200 for teaching people how to wing. Yeah. Yes. Now I did do one modification. I cut the mass down from 24 to 15 inches. Oh, wow. 15 inch mass. Okay. Yeah. And that's nothing new, there's been other foil manufacturers that have made different mass lengths for beginners. Is it safer to, right? You don't when you breach it on crashes from as high, sorry. Yes. In fact, when it does breach it's a rude drop, but usually. They'll maintain enough speed to kick it back right up again. And the importance, you know of not too high, not too low. That makes sense. Do you have so many good videos teaching how to, to wing foil and and then yeah, actually also you're you have that Patrion channel and to sign up for this yesterday and it's really cool. I don't know if you mind me sharing some of these posts, but I guess yeah, if you pay like $5 a month or so. You can choose what, how much you want to contribute, but then you get access to all these really detailed tech, technical videos on how to wing foil, which is really cool. Like this one here about attacking. I watched yesterday and it's I'm going to turn off the sound here, but it just has really good instructions. I have to say. It's ex what really well done, Alan, and And yeah. So if you're learning how to wink fun, I guess that's something too, like maybe talk a little bit about how the pandemic has affected your business and, like how you transitioned to doing more of this kind of virtual coaching and things like that. Sure. Thank you. I I've been running the winter school since 85. No. I came to Maui to wind surf, but like I said, I skipped college and I wasn't sure what I was going to do. And I fell into to what I love to do. And that's teach wind surfing, then develop the business and it's grown over the years. We've diversified into surfing and kiting and sup and although wind surfing and sup is our bread and butter. I'm sorry. Windsurfing. Kiting is our bread and butter. When foiling came along on it sorry. It's just, the video is distracting me when when foiling came along wing foiling on, I thought, Oh, this is something I could teach in the school. And you remember Ken, he had this stream of prototypes coming into the neighborhood here and. People were really intrigued by foiling that's my wife, they were really intrigued by foiling and they wanted to do it. And Robert business was really good. I was the only one that had the wings, none of the shops there were, there was nothing available by them yet. Yeah. So I was sharing the wings and giving lessons and turning people on anyone that asked, I'd let them try it. And we were poised on. I was getting boards and sales and training instructors, and we were poised to, teach wing surfing and then COVID hit and changed everything. Shut everything down, turned Maui into a car park, full of tourist cars on all of the restaurants were closed and we just hunkered down. We went to Costco's everybody else and load it up and So during this downtime, besides doing the house maintenance and the things that everyone did, I thought that I would put together some videos or do a video on this is how we teach wind foiling. And that was, I don't know if you have that one. That's a, it's on YouTube. It's my daughter's to star on, but that one put it up and. This one very hard to get up in Seattle. It's older. It's older. Huh. Oh, maybe on all the videos. He, Oh, part one part two. That's it right there. So I just took my daughter down to the beach nearby and took my dog down and took the video camera and just put together. This was the introduction. That's my prom foil board that I use for regular surfing on. And it works on the wing too. That's anyway, on. We just went down and had some fun and my daughter, at this point, she was able to foil and go up wind and we were just going to use the big board. Yeah. So I put her on the big board and we just went through, this is how we teach. And it was the idea was a infomercial on what we're doing at the school. And there was so much positive feedback that I thought I'd do part two. And that's the one where I'm getting up on foil in the Harbor. And people were so appreciative that I was doing that. And a friend said you should have a Patrion account now, which I didn't know what that was. And I went home and looked at it and realized, this is me right now. Because again, COVID had shut down the business. And I thought this is a way that I could take my skills online and teach people and not just one at a time at the beach, like I normally do, but be able to reach everybody. So that's what I've been working on through the COVID thing. It's I'm still in the red, but I'm getting close to, paying off my equipment, but the. Appreciation far outweighs any monetary support, that, people telling me that I've helped them do this and do that. And thank you as well. You do the same thing with so many of your videos. I How many videos have you done that helped people? It's awesome. Yeah. Thanks Alan. For me, it's different though, because for us, depending on it was actually like boom times because everybody. And nobody could travel. People had extra spending money that stimulus checks, and then they just, bye. Yeah. You could go out in the water. That was the safest thing you could do. So it's been actually very good for our business in terms of equipment sales, but yeah, in terms of tourists, there's nothing right now. Still, I think it hasn't really recovered at all. Let me let me do a couple of quick screen shares as well. Okay. Let me turn mine off again here. Hold on. Okay. So yeah, I'll let you do the screen share. Okay. This is my daughter and this was her first session with the wing on a winter Ford with the daggerboard on the wing she's using, this was the first. I guess you'd call it a echo prototype. This wing was really solid. This thing really changed everything. It has five buttons or something. Yeah. It had battens prior to the battens. Ken was using these wings just to go down wind and you didn't meet any battens because he was holding it like a Spinnaker sale. It wasn't until we started sailing at canal hall, going up wind that they were flapping. And that's really where a lot of the changes began. I met my wife, wind surfing. This is an old picture. I met her in 87 and we have two daughters together. My oldest one on my left. She's living in California, married my younger one. Is living at home here with her boyfriend and she's having a really good time. She works up at the crater. I don't want to say it's a as a park ranger, but she's working up at the summit with people up there and she also winged foils. But she prefers to rock climb, free climb on. Let's see, where do you go on Maui for free climbing? Is that there's a number of places. There's one over in key hay and over on the backside. And I don't have any pictures of that cued up. This is my wife when she realized that my old board, her board. Fits in the back of her car. Big smile. Yeah. He loves wing foiling because it's just so easy. You pump up the wing and you're ready to go. Yeah. Assuming you have a car that fits your foil and she's also COVID has. Changed our relationship for the better previously she would man, my office at high-tech here, our office. I don't know if you can see this. So I have this little kiosk in high-tech and pre COVID. She would spend her days in there meeting and greeting people and everything to do with the school. We have a. A school van that goes down to the beach for the wind surf year on. And when COVID hit, that was all shut down, but we could go to the beach and wing. She's been putting her time in, out on the water. There's my old sup board, which is perfect for her. It's about 85 liters. She's got the a that's one of the prototype wings. That's the one that I was doing the speed run on earlier. A lot. And she's, she's making about almost nine out of 10 of her jobs now, which is something that she didn't quite do in winter. If you, even though she's been a lifelong windsurfer, In a lot of ways, like I always struggled doing tax on a small wave board windsurfing, but on a wing. It's actually, I find it way easier to do attack because you don't have to jump in front of the wing and stuff like that. So in a lot of ways, when winging is actually easier than windsurfing, I find one of the things that makes it so addicting besides the feeling of floating on air of snowboarding and powder, if you've ever skied or snowboarded, the feeling of powder is exceptional. On there's no pounding. But the, besides all those great things, and it's quick to set up and an easy is that each time you go out, maybe even each run, do you learn something new? And it doesn't matter if you're a beginner, just holding the wing for the first time or floating around on a big board. Forget the foil, just sail the board around. I've had people. Do the lessons on the big board and say, this is so fun, and it is, but you haven't even got on the foil board yet and you're loving it. It gets better. It's truly addicting. Th this being up on the floor that sensation of flying over the water, it feels more like you're flying than going over water. So it's this, that is so cool. And you know that, I don't know if you've been watching any of the America's cup racing last year with the catamaran and this year with the monohulls. It's absolutely incredible how fast they go. Yeah. And us mere mortals will probably never, ever get the chance to ride on one, forget owning one on, but you can have your own personal hydrophobic yacht right there. For relatively inexpensive and in a way it's, I don't know, to me it's almost more interesting because you're basically controlling it with your body weight, not, it's not like a mechanical control. It's like you're controlling the foil, it's your body weight. I would say it's one of the more freer feelings that you can have and the. Again, it was in may of 18 that Ken first got that blow up wing. Now he's not the first handheld wings have been around for a long time. And there's another guy flash Austin. He deserves the credit for being the first one on Maui to put a wing together on a foil board. And he went out and foiled out and back and got some video. And then I think his wing broke apart and he never put it back together. It didn't stick with it, but prior to him, I saw the footage of him doing that. And I thought, no, that looks crazy. Yeah. Nobody really thought that it could be what it is today. And I believe it's Tony Lugosi that sometime around 15 or 16 made an inflatable wing, not necessarily with the intention of foiling, but I think he just, put together an inflatable weighing instead of ones with struts and spars and on. And he. Apparently put that on the foil board and made it work on a foil board more as a novelty on, I don't think he thought that it would take off, but he was ahead of his time there and nobody has a patent on it or anything like that. So it's just nice that's open for wide open for development and stuff like that, where people don't have to worry about licensing it and so on, right? Yes. So it's on. Really since I think Ken is probably responsible for this resurgence or, this round of it anyway, but he, it was only may of 18 that it started. Yeah. Yeah. And I always wondered why you, how you got the all the new wings and the new prototypes so early, but now I know it's cause you're Ken when there's your neighbor. So no wonder, but obviously also, you're a really good spokesperson for duotone. I think that's that? Your videos are one of the reasons why I got into Wingfoot foiling too, I'm not an official spokesperson for duo tome. I'd rather think of myself as an ambassador for the sport right on. I'd like to see everyone, try it and Excel. It's just that my position is that I've been using these duotone wings. Okay. Let's go talk a little bit more about equipment. You said, and I don't know if you have some video of yourself using your board and stuff like that, but you said you only use a front foot strap. You don't really jump because because you're worried about injury and you often use a harness and things like that. So can you talk a little bit about, for myself, I've never even tried a harness. I felt it's not really necessary. I feel like it doesn't, there's not as much pressure in the wing as when you're windsurfing. So what made you start using a harness and and yeah, maybe talk a little bit about the gear you use and why you set it up the way you did. Now? I did do a video on YouTube. Maybe I can screen share on how to use the harness, all about the harness. Okay. And this, I did this last year. Maybe even longer initially it was the boom is right there and you're sailing along and you think I could probably use a harness here, so yeah. So let's talk a little bit about using a harness and why yeah. Why you started using it and so on. First I thought, let's just try it and see if it works. And I went and made a custom harness line and I pulled my old windsurf harness out there. It is, and put it on and went out and gave it a few runs and decided, yeah, it was possible, but I didn't really need it. Didn't you know, it wasn't really happening. And. What I realized now is that the harness I made a custom harness line, a real long one, thinking that I needed a long one because the wing is way up here. But when it's over your head, there's no load on the wing, it's when you're going up wind that the Boone comes down the wing tips, low to the water. And when you're going up, when there's a lot of lateral pole and it's at that point that you need or you. Would find a harness line comfortable. So I gave it another try. I pulled out the regular harness line that decline just regular windsurfing harness line and got my old kite harness out. That's the one we're looking at now. And maybe later people watching can watch this video to know what we're talking about here. But the main thing is that you have a hook that allows you to quickly get out of the. The harness line. Yeah. You don't want it as small as a kite surfing hook yet, or the yes, but more open, not yet. And then, when you have the hook getting on your board, you can damage your board with the hook. So I go through a couple different methods to get on the board. And there's another video that I have on YouTube as well, where I'm riding my prone board. And I talk about how to get up when you're using a harness hook. Talk about the length of the harness line and the placement. So would you say when you hold the boom it's about where your elbow is? Is that about the length or the middle? Yeah. The, we used to grab the boom and then pull the loop down to your elbow. And that was, or to the crotch in your arm here. And that was a good general ballpark. Some people like them shorter. Some people like them longer. There's only a handful of people using harness lines over here at Ken winners, one of them on, and. There's a few other people that have tried them on and I'm getting people online talking about them. And there's certainly a lot of chatter online. Yeah. A lot of people talking about it online here on a wahoo. I haven't seen anybody using a harness, but but yeah, I find it interesting. Not intriguing on it's not necessary. You don't have to have it. There are some drawbacks, it often it'll hit you in the face when you're trying to pump up on the board. But if it's swings a lot on you're wearing the harness hook, you can't lie on the board unless you unclip it. Because you'll damage your board. You just can't lay flat on the board if you have to paddle or something, but it's easy enough to unclip it and let it hang to the side on. And like I said, it's a little harder to get on the board sometimes, but there's ways around that. When you're in the harness going up wind with the bigger wing on, as soon as you get comfortable with it, you'll love it. Yeah. I can see that cause you're basically just using your body weight to, to power up the not you don't use your arms any more, really just for control. Same as when you went, surfing it in higher wind with a smaller wing. It is a little scarier to hook in, we haven't had that many light wind days over here on, or I haven't had that many sessions out on my six meter. I do have a six meter wing and going out in 10 to 12 knots with the harness and going up wind is a dream it's so comfortable and steady. Your weight does the work. Your arms are just relaxed. It's a really wonderful feeling. On, you're not gonna use the harness going downwind, just the way that, excuse me, the way the wing folds out. You're just not going to hook in. It's really just for going up, wind on. And I there's a shot of my foot straps on, I only have the front foot straps. I switch like a windsurfer I'll switch tacks after each run. Sometimes I might do a short run where I ride switched or tow side. I don't have a back strap because I moved my back foot around a lot and I did have it for a while and I fell and tweaked my ankle. And I decided that I don't really need the back strap because I'm not jumping. And. It just was getting in the way and I don't want to injure myself on, and I made a pledge early on to myself that I wouldn't take this sport to the air because where does it stop? And I'm really glad I did because seeing balls Mueller doing those loops. He's inspiring, and in the beginning he was throwing himself up in the air and let's try this or let's try that. And just coming down in the heap. In fact I made a comment on one of his Instagram pages that you have nine lives and that one just costs you one. The one where he goes in the shore break, it just gets eaten up in the shore break. Yeah, with the foil County going over him and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I. I injured myself a number of years ago. It was pretty serious back injury and I've healed up a hundred percent, but you told me about this injury yesterday. Can you tell us a little bit more how exactly how that happened? So I was surfing at hokey-pokey on a relatively big day and I did a late takeoff and I free fell head first and I put my arms up. To protect from the board. And I landed on the water like this, instead of, like this let me stop the screen sharing so you can show us what you're. Yeah. Okay. So how did what happened? I was surfing Keepa and I just did a late tape off and went overhead first. And I put my arms up in the air to keep from getting hit by the board. And I impacted the water like this instead of, like this. And it was a compression fracture on my spine. What paratroopers get landing hard in their bone. And it was, I've healed fine. But it was pretty close to what they call a burst fracture, where pieces of the bone enter the spinal cord and paralysis occurs. So I had a near life-changing experience there. And I think that was when I was 55, 54. So since then I've kinda I've just decided not to take it to the air. I've stopped kite surfing. I don't kite surf anymore because I don't trust myself on to not jump. And on wing foiling is something that's less. I it's a lot safer than so many other things out there. And I see Some older folks down at the beach and the oldest relative, I'm 59. I know when I paddle out at who Keepa, I'm like the oldest one out there. Now that was kin winter catching a wing tip while he was in the harness. That's one thing that if you're going to try a harness, you want to be aware of, if that wing tip catches again, it doesn't end up well, And I talk about this in the video with sound yeah. Catching right here. And then you're in the heart instead of falling on the wing, you can't get out, you can't unhook. So if you're going to try the harness, that's something to consider. This is not something that, that you're going to go and use the first week of wing foiling. You want to have some skill. All right. So yeah. The other thing I wanted you to talk about was this cool move that I really was intrigued by. And I still haven't been able to pull it off, but that's the starfish. So how do you get into it in the first place? So you I kinda, I sorta did this by accident. Just hold it right there for a second. If you will. Yeah. Yeah. I was giving a lesson to a novice sailor and he was out, I believe he was on the, he was on the big board. I don't know if it was the wind surfer or the big foil board. And he went out and he did the turn and he had flipped the wing over any came out of it the other way. And I'm like, wow, how did he do that? He did it by accident. But the way he jived the wing and spun the board right around. I said, Oh, I'm going to, I'm going to go try that. So I went out and I was trying to do what I saw him do. And I'm not sure what I did, but I was flipping the wing over just like this. Okay. And the wind got behind me and something like that. And I said, okay, I'm going to. Try and do that and get the wing behind me. So I went out a few more times and I was able to flip the wing over. And as you turned down wind, you might back up there a little bit, as you turned down, wind, you're moving with the wind. So the amount of pressure on the wing is minimal. So if you want to do this, it's relatively easy. You start your job. You turn the wings so that the wing tip drags in the water or starts to invert. So you flip the wing over. Okay. And then here, turn the corner so that you're going with the wind. And at this point, as long as it's not blowing a Gale, so the wing is almost weightless because you're moving with the wind. At this point, you're coasting on the foil. You get your hand on the handle and you can bring it up behind you. Now at this point if there's enough wind. The wind will keep the wing against you, just friction. So I did this, I was goofing off with it and I was going down the coast thinking, okay, this is pretty cool. How am I going to get out of it? I don't know. I'll figure that out when I get there. And so I got down there and I reached up and grabbed the handle and flipped it over and sailed away. And I thought that was cool. And I had put in a full day and I packed up and I was driving home and Alex Garrett calls me and says, dude, I went to get my camera. I got to get your new move. This is Alex. Yeah. Filming this. So I'm like, nah, I'm like, no, I'm good Al. And he's Oh man, you gotta do it, man. Someone else is gonna do it and claim your move. And I'm like, eh, And I'm halfway home and I'm looking, the wind's blowing. It's a beautiful sunny day. And I thought, we should do this. Why the sun's out. So I turned around, I went back, called them up and said, I'm coming back. And I went out and did this. So it's a fun move. It's relatively easy to do and easy to get out of on. The trick is you turn down when, and you've slipped the wing upside down and then get the handle and pull it around behind you. And then to get out of it, you just reach it up and bend over it. It's flip or jive over your head. So cool. I've yet to do it, on a coast run. I think we're going to go today. It's blowing pretty good over here. I think we're going to do an illegal run windy day, for sure. Yeah. Oh, okay. So you ended up going back to the beach, setting up again and then pulling it off like that. That's a good sign. Yeah, that's awesome. All right. I think we already went over the time we allotted. So appreciate you talking about all this details and What do you do? Like to stay healthy? What are your secrets to staying fit and young at your, Oh, just trying to stay active, just trying to do something every day. I I haven't been doing much cross training lately on, since I started doing the videos, I've had a lot of time sitting in front of the computer. What I have been trying to get out probably like four times a week to wing foil on. So that's been my main exercise wing forelimb. How long do you go out in the, on the water? Like I find sometimes when I go out for too long, I just start hurting myself. Do you have a certain amount of time? That's good for you or you just stay out as long as you can. Usually I'd say around two hours is my average session. Remember I have a harness. And when I did that speed run with the little yellow wing, just a couple of days ago, my wife was using it and she doesn't use the harness line. So I'm like, okay, I just it's really windy. I want to go get the GoPro speedometer going. And I. I went out and I did my first speed run and I turned around and I'm going back up when, and I'm like, Oh no harness line Ang. And just those two runs without the harness line, my shoulder was starting to hurt, and I don't know how many miles I've paddled surfing and how many times I've wind surfed. It's my shoulders. I'm not going to get a knee replacement. It's going to be a shoulder replacement. Yeah, that's pretty common. If I have to, I hope I never have to do that, but my shoulders have more miles than my knees or hips on. But. I rely on the harness more than I realized, trying to go up in there. It's just that time of hooking in and resting your arms, resting your shoulders. Just that one leg up wind, then you're fresh to go downwind. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. For me too. Yeah. Sometimes I just put my arms straighten out my arms and hold the wing over my head and just relax a little bit. And even without a harness, you can, but the, I can see how, if you have bad shoulders, it's not an easy thing to do after a while. All right. So anything, do you have any sponsors that you want to plug or anything that you want to mention like that? I I'd like to thank Alex Guera for taking care of me with the foils. He makes a great product. Ken and duotone have been very generous with their products on, and I have to admit that I haven't used a lot of other stuff, but there's, a lot of everyone has a lot of good stuff out there and it really doesn't matter what you use. The main thing is that you're using it, that you get out there. And this sport you learn every time you go. And it's a good physical workout. And you think about it too. So it gets you thinking on you won't regret it on. I. If there's one thing one negative thing. And that is that it's very addicting and it's gonna it's gonna take some of your time from something else, which for better or worse and yeah. And your wallet will feel a little bit lighter too. There's that aspect. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you want to leave people with? And any last words? Just to get out on the water and give it a try, you won't regret it. And if yeah it's good to try new things. And living here in Hawaii, living here in Hawaii, most of our days are like other people's vacations. Take advantage of where you live and what you do. You certainly living your dream and that, and I hope That things get back to where you can actually make money with your business. Again, sorry to hear that you're struggling right now, but hopefully people can support your patron account and your great instructional videos online. Keep posting that kind of stuff. That's really cool. Very helpful. I think for people learning, I think we're starting to come out of it here. Then you can see light at the end of the tunnel. I think we're going to, we're going to be all right. Yeah. All right. For this for the boots on it, show who do you think I should interview next? Do you have any any ideas on who I should talk to? Let's see. I can think of a few different people while Ken would be interesting on, but you said he's you might not want to talk to me. Can you ask him. Yeah, I can ask him. In fact, I can I'll try and send you his email Mark rappel, Horst. He's a very interesting guy. He did SIC. He did the paddling he's into whinging for sure. Alex  he's got a lot of history on yeah. Robbie Nash is of course an icon on some up and coming people over here on Maui. I think probably one of the best foils here on Maui. And he's an exceptional winger too, is came to wild. He's amazing. He has some really strong sweet moves. It was down at the Harbor not too long ago. And he goes, Hey, Alan, I figured something out. And I'm like, what is it? Can he says, when you bring the wing down to the rail, you can go so much faster up wind. And I said, Oh no, you figured that out. Okay. It's like closing the gap on a wind surfboard right now. Yes. And I talk about it in the video for how to go up wind. Yeah, but he is so fast and so maneuverable, he's just a real pleasure to watch. And he always uses this pretty small wing too, right? He's just like smaller wings and just once he gets going, then he doesn't need as big of a wing. You're talking smaller foil or smaller wing, a wind wing. He does use a smaller wing. And some of his foils are pretty small, but I've seen him like glide exceptionally far. He's making his own foils and really working at it. Yeah. I've listened to some of his interviews on the progression project and he's like very thoughtful. He thinks about everything and has a lot of interesting theories and tests out stuff and he makes his own tail wings and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, he'd be definitely, he's definitely someone I want to talk to soon. Yeah. And he's just a kid too, so he's got lot of future there. Yeah. Other up and coming, let's see. There's a whole bunch of kids that are getting into it over here. Yeah. I think one of the cool things about wing foiling too, is that it's such a diverse group of people. Like you have a lot of young kids getting into it, people with a surfing background, wind surfing, kite surfing background, a lot of different backgrounds. Plus I think just people are so intrigued by it. Even if they have no water sport experience, they're interested in it. So yes, it appeals to everybody. There's a lot of old time wind surfers that I haven't seen for years. That are down there, like the old days wind surfing, but they're down there trying to figure it out on. There's another guy on nice gentlemen. Ileka 250 pounds. Oh, I'm not suggesting him for an interview, but he is on he's down there all the time. But the point is he weighs 250 pounds. And he's almost as graceful as cane. He's really smooth. He can do a lot of tricks on, there's no such thing as a 250 pound windsurfer freestyle stylist. You just, you can't be 200, 250 pound sup paddler. The big guys, they're just, I'm sorry, but there's a disadvantage when you weigh 250 pounds, but it doesn't seem to affect him. Now. He uses a little bit bigger wing than everyone else and his foil, it's an access foil. That's got a really high aspect. It's got a huge wingspan on it on, but the, the, and that I've been teaching kids to Winser for decades and it's pretty easy to put them on the raft. With the little wing and they drift out and they turn around and they drift in and with a lot of effort, you can get them planning on a little board and a smaller sale, but generally they just don't have the weight to make it work. But with foiling, I'm seeing these little kids on little wings going out and foiling and. And doing it quickly, there they're up and foiling in a matter of days. And they're out there riding around where trying to get them to do that on a wind surfboard would take a year or two. I have always felt like on for me personally. I brought a lot of background, wind surfing and kiting and everything to this sport. And I was one of the guys that just stepped on and went, made it go. And I really got a head start on everyone else. But when I see these kids that are coming on there, where are they going to take this sport? Not just, in their maneuverability, but when they start doing these tricks in the surf. Really just starting to stress the surface of what's possible. I think I, there's going to be so much progression in the sport, it's just amazing. But actually I wanted to ask you if you have someone that has no experience in water sports, no foiling background, and they want to learn how to wing for like how, what is your progression and teaching them like, like how do you start them out? I start them off on the big winter Ford with a dagger board. And we didn't talk about this in the video. Maybe. I don't know if you can add that in later, but a lot of people show up with a sup board and the support has the volume to get them out there to float around. But without the daggerboard, they end up downwind very quickly. The daggerboard does two things. One is it prevents lateral slip and it's at a pivot point. To steer the board right on. I know that they, some of the shops, I don't know if high-tech does, but I think some of the shops have like glue on or strap on daggerboards that you can put on your set boards. That, excuse me, that might be something that you could offer even as a rental, take your board that I sold you last year, put this on it, take the wing. Go down to someplace. I don't know if  has landfall on the downwind side, but someplace like Kyla Bay might where go out and learn how to sail it out, turn around and sail back with the goal of coming back to the same spot. And when my students are able to push that wind surfboard almost onto a plane. That tells me that they're loading the wing, that they've got enough sense to sheet in and sheet out. And when they can come back to the same spot, they know how to turn around and they know on how to steer the wing to get the board to go up wind. Once they can do that. Then the next step is to go on the foil board. And, I wanted to ask you about, and you never take them behind the boat or anything like you don't do the full practicing behind the boat. You don't really need that. I guess once he know how to handle the wing, that's your power source right now in a perfect world behind a boat would be great. Maybe an eco oil might be the next best thing. Have you done much equaling? Yeah, I have done it a bunch. Do you offer it lessons at all? Do you have them in the shop? No longer offered lessons or rentals, just because of the cost of liability insurance, but we refer that. We refer people. There's a company called  experience here on Oahu that we refer people to not see it. . I ideally, in a perfect world behind a boat or jet ski, or even on an equal  would be great. But the reality of I'm sure it's just as hard on Oahu as it is. Maybe it's worse here on Maui on to get permits, to do. Stuff behind a boat. You have to go through the state and get the permit to the state and Oh, just to, yeah. Not many places you can do it actually. That's true. And then even here on the North shore on the rules and regulations for jet-skis during the winter, during the whale season, you need to have permits and license, and it's a thrill craft. If you're going to go in the surf, you need the toe thing and it's just. Yeah, it's the reality, but I've had a lot of people who come with no foil experience, get the get the feeling for the wing on the big board and then apply it to the foil board. The big flow with the short mask, with the big floaty board on a lot of people have learned that way on. And then they're off to get their own equipment and practice on their own on. Awesome. Yeah, I and I think whinging is probably the easiest way to learn how to foil, other than behind a Boulder on the NFL, probably. It's definitely much easier, I think, to learn how to wing foil or it's a four line with a wing then in the waves, cause then there's a whole. Additional complication of calving to catch a wave and get up on your feet and all that kind of stuff. If you're surfing and even stand up, paddle surfing is not that easy to catch the wave and feeling. I had that discussion with a guy this morning. Who's actually our email is actually a winger that can foil and it's too windy over here. The last couple of days, it's just been smoke on the water. So he says he wants to try prone. On his set board and I'm like he's got an 80 liter board and I'm like, no, that's too big. You need to get a prone board if you want us if you want a prone and yes, it's easier. It's going to be easier to prone in the surf than it is to suck in the surf. He has no sup experience and trying to sup for the first time you need to have a real easy Waikiki style way, but of all the sports, whether it's kite surfing, Or wind surfing prone, surfing sub foiling. If you've never done any of that, that it's going to be easiest to learn. I believe with a wing. I agree, ideally behind a boat or a  might be the next best thing next easiest way. But again, the logistics of. Getting a boat you need to drive or you need a place. I have a boat and I took my wife out. We did a snorkel trip to Molokini and I brought the foil along and my daughter and her friends, and we all took turns on the foil. And my wife got up and scissored Oh, Damaged your ribs. And she was out for six months. And then, so she's better. So we'd go back to the beach and we're going to Duane foil. And she goes out on the wing full board and neither one of us thought of a vest. And she fell and did the same thing another six months. So she's got a late start. Oh, she is determined though to happen and she's still going. That's awesome. Yeah. Wow. I've watched a lot of your videos and you do a really great job of, filming and editing and it's really easygoing and the information is really clear and concise and Yeah, that's a lot it is a lot of work too, to put out good content, but I try, just try to be consistent, tried to do one a week. That's my goal, and then, we definitely see a, I see a lot of rewards from that too. People appreciate it and people support our business because people know about our business because of the videos. So it's yeah, it's a win-win. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That again, that was the whole reason why I started the YouTube stuff. And then. Then the Patrion stuff just fell into place. And then I think once, once people started coming back to Maui, it'll definitely, you'll see a lot of returns from that. People are going to seek you out because of your videos. People will be like, Oh yeah, this guy knows what he's doing. So I'm sure your business is going to do well. Going forward. It's going to just get better and better planning on coming to a walkthrough to visit my dad. Oh, probably in the, he gets his second COVID shot on the 3rd of March and I thought I'd give him a week to, get solid. And then then I can come over without worrying about bringing anything. Okay. Yeah. Let's let's meet up when you here. And maybe we can do a video together to do a collaboration. Yeah, maybe I just would like to wing it. Okay. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Flat Island is super fun actually, when the winds are right direction and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And might be too early for a South swell, but Is it Kahala? Where is it? That's where we ended up going a lot, just cause it's easy. And there's like showers and stuff like that. But diamond head is also really fun. We like going out at diamond head it's kinda like the old days of windsurfing. When there's a South swabbed diamond that gets good. And there's a few other spots like Hickam air force base. I have a, my wife is in the military so I can go there. And that's I just went there for the first time, a couple of days ago. And it was amazing. It's like a super smooth wave there. That's protected from the wind, so right by the airport runway. It's awesome. Yeah, there's a few good spots. And then on the North shore guy to go out at reviews and stuff like that, and there's some good winging on the North shore for sure. Got a lot of good spots on the wall. I got a lot of that over here. I'd rather just, I'd rather just cruise around and Kyla the mellow stuff. Yeah. And that's what Kahala is pretty nice. Kayla is good, like a lot of times for beginners, I don't really recommend it that much, especially if you're regular foot, because first of all, you're going out on your diff opposite side. So it's hard to get going. If you're not used to Being switched, having your stent switched, and then you ended up going downwind and then you have to walk back up the beach and it's, it's can be quite exhausting and it's hard to get off the beach in the first place. If you don't know how to go Upland, so it's not an not actually I find it not a great

The conversation covers:  Tracy's thoughts on how the relationship between open-source and cloud-native should be described. The advantages and disadvantages to an organization using open-source. Some of the major risks associated with using open-source, and why companies should approach with caution.   Why CI/CD is a rising security concern for open-source organizations.Tracy also provides her thoughts on how businesses are handling the CI/CD pipeline today, and where the trend is heading. Some of the unresolved challenges related to continuous delivery that currently exist. Tracy's advice for companies that are just starting to develop an open-source contribution strategy. How companies should approach topics like open-source strategizing and building open-source communities. The common mistakes that individuals and companies make when nurturing open-source communities. Tracy also comments on mistakes that people are making with continuous delivery. Links CloudBees: https://www.cloudbees.com/ Continuous Delivery Foundation: https://cd.foundation/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/tracymiranda  Emily: Hi everyone. I'm Emily Omier, your host, and my day job is helping companies position themselves in the cloud-native ecosystem so that their product's value is obvious to end-users. I started this podcast because organizations embark on the cloud naive journey for business reasons, but in general, the industry doesn't talk about them. Instead, we talk a lot about technical reasons. I'm hoping that with this podcast, we focus more on the business goals and business motivations that lead organizations to adopt cloud-native and Kubernetes. I hope you'll join me.Emily: Welcome to The Business of Cloud Native. Today, I'm chatting with Tracy Miranda. Tracy, thank you so much for joining me.Tracy: Hi, Emily. Thanks for having me. It's my pleasure.Emily: So, as usual, I just want to start off with having you introduce yourself, both what you do, where you work, but also, like, some details, what does this actually mean? How do you actually spend your day?Tracy: Yeah, so I'm the director of open-source CloudBees, and I'm also the board chair at the Continuous Delivery Foundation, which is an open-source foundation, which is home to projects like Jenkins, and Spinnaker, and Tecton, and Jenkins X. So, basically, I'm a big fan of all things open-source, which in day-to-day means I'm doing anything which is related to building communities. So, either involved with code, or building communities and through conferences, or sometimes just the boring governance stuff around open-source.Emily: What is the boring governance stuff around open-source?Tracy: So, I guess it is just trying to get folks moving in the same direction, and reminding people that it's sometimes more than just code. And whether it's updating a code of conduct, and one of the things we've seen and—okay, I wouldn't call this boring; it's actually taken over a bit in open-source communities, but it's sort of different from the code, but it's the whole terminology updates. We've seen a lot of open-source communities have become more aware about wanting to be better about using terms like ‘master' and ‘slave' and move away from that. That being said, it's not that easy, so there's a lot to do in getting people on the same page and ready to move forward even before you can start changing a line of code.Emily: Since the topic of the podcast is cloud-native, obviously, open-source and cloud-native are related. In fact, some people think that cloud-native must be open-source. Where do you fall on that spectrum? How do you think the relationship between open-source and cloud-native should be described?Tracy: Yeah, I think that they're pretty distinct things. So, cloud-native is all about using the Cloud effectively and having technology which takes advantage of modern architectures to give you things like rapid elasticity, or on-demand self-service. And that's distinct from open-source, which is around the licensing, and it's become more about communities, as well. But I think because Kubernetes has been the most successful cloud-native project that is open-source, I guess there's become this very, very strong association which, in my mind, is a very, very good thing because I think open-source communities are really the way to drive innovation very, very quickly across the industry.Emily: And this may seem sort of obvious, but what are some of the advantages and disadvantages to an organization in using open-source?Tracy: Yes. So, I think—well, lots—virtually every company uses open-source, and the first thing people can see as the benefits are just the engineering efficiencies. So, using technologies which, say aren't core to the business, but then building on top of those and taking advantage of the features rather than dedicating their own engineering resources to developing them. I used to work as a consultant, and I would go from company to company, and usually, they would be adopting open-source when they wanted to get away from an in-house project where the people or person who had written it had left the company. So, I think there's a lot to be said, as well, for sustainability of technology: that communities and open-source communities are really good at sustaining projects over the long term, and therefore kind of the best bet for technology that's going to live on beyond individuals or even companies, acquisitions, or whatever.Emily: Do you think there are any risks to using open-source? I'm even interested in hearing if there are risks that are not real, but that are perceived risks. And then even maybe some risks that people don't think about, but that are in fact, quite real.Tracy: Yes, yeah, no, absolutely there are risks. So, it's wise for companies to approach with caution. I think the risks sort of depend on which side—like, are you looking to just use open-source that someone else has written, or are you contributing something, which might be key to your company, but then you're saying, “Okay, I'm going to do this in an open way,” which brings us to one of those common perceived myths, that someone, like a cloud provider, is then going to take your open-source software and do a better job of making money around it, so thereby just ruining your entire business model.And I think the other area where we tend to see a lot of dialogue around, is always around open-source security. For a long time, people used to, sort of, make out that this was different from closed source security, somehow. Security through obscurity meant that closed-source was better than open-source, which is clearly not the case. You can have secure open-source software, not secure open-source software. It just really depends on the project and the practices.Emily: And then also, I thought we'd talk a little bit specifically about this CI/CD work that you do. How important is CI/CD, do you think, in the pursuit of being cloud-native?Tracy: Yes, no, I think CI/CD has just risen to the top as one of the key concerns. And I think, part of the reason—when you're doing things in a cloud-native way it means that your systems are very distributed; you don't necessarily know where the services are running, it's typically not on-premise, and suddenly it becomes very important to understand how do you do this integration, and how do you then deliver that software in a way that is both quick, and that is not going to—you can do it in a safe way, so it's not going to break every time you do releases. And I think we're seeing that it really is at the forefront. Like last year, we started the Continuous Delivery Foundation, which is an open-source foundation, and the mission there is to increase the world's capacity to ship software securely and at speed. And the uptake from folks has been really well. Everyone's grappling and trying to figure out, what does CI/CD look like in the Cloud? What does it mean to be cloud-native CI/CD?Emily: And from the perspective of an end-user, what do you think are some of the, still, unresolved challenges related to continuous delivery?Tracy: Yeah, it's very challenging. Everything is changing under enterprise's feet. And it's not just the tools we're using, is also the skills we expect people to have, the way we organize a team. And traditionally, it's been very, very hard to decommission software or deprecate it, but what we're seeing in the industry now is that everything is changing really rapidly. You take something like Kubernetes and it has a new release, like, every three months and then nine months later, that's deprecated. So, people are having to make changes in enterprise situations at a rate that they just previously didn't come anywhere close to, and that's pretty challenging when you're having to deal with the changing tools, and processes, and people all at the same time, all while keeping your business up and running.Emily: In terms of the whole CI/CD pipeline, do you think most end-users experience that as being mature? Is it sort of figured out, or is it something that they continue to struggle with?Tracy: I think everybody has a CI… certainly CI… many people have sort of cracked, and they've got their systems set up. And then the delivery side, it just, kind of, varies. And I think it depends; we see a lot of folks who are really trying to figure out pipelines and are really trying to figure out what that looks like in a cloud-native world, and they haven't figured out, what does it mean for things to be highly available? What does it mean to be able to scale at any level? So, everybody's got something, but I think we've only just scratched the surface of what's possible with today's technology.Emily: Where do you think it's going in the future?Tracy: Yeah, I think, like in the same way we're having this big shift, everybody's got monoliths, and the problem with the monolith is that you can't do the speed and security at the same time. So, if you think about the key metrics people use today, there's two on speed, “Which is how quickly can you deploy?” And, “What's your lead time for changes?” And then for the safety, it's, “How long would it take you to restore services, if something went wrong?” And, “What is your change failure rate? How often are things going wrong every time you push code?” So, in the bid to get really good at those metrics, I think people have realized that monoliths cause a lot of problems, and it's much easier to meet these capabilities if you've got microservices are smaller batches of code, each, which do a specific thing, and there's less chance of things falling over when you make changes because there's not all these huge dependencies. Now, however, when you do start having all these different microservices with, let's say, a web of dependencies, things start to get really complicated. So, now you don't have, perhaps, one CI/CD pipeline, you have a pipeline per microservice. And then we start to say, “Okay, what is the definition of the application even? Is it all these microservices? Which version is it?” And then things like configuration management start to enter the picture, especially if you've got dependencies on things, let's say, outside your company, or open-source. So, I think it's a lot for people to grapple with, like, how to truly do microservices, and how the definition of an application is going to evolve. And I think for CI/CD, we can't keep doing what we've done in the sense of traditionally, folks have written a pipeline by hand, and you'd write a pipeline for your monolith. But now you've got all these different microservices. You want to start thinking about how can you have a pipeline auto-generated for them.Emily: I wanted to actually shift and talk more about open-source communities as well since I know that's a large part of what you do. My first question is, what would you say to a company that's starting to think not just about consuming open-source, but developing a strategy to contribute to open-source? What do you advise companies who are just starting that journey?Tracy: Yeah, no, I think for companies, it's a really good thing. I think open-source can give you a lot of strategic advantages, especially if you're coming in strong, and you're looking to be a leader in a space. And if we talk about category creation, you can use open-source almost as a weapon to drive the industry in a specific direction. So, I think what is important for companies is to be very deliberate about this strategy because open-source strategies can be almost counterintuitive, especially to folks who haven't done it before. This idea that you're giving away assets for free, or making them open. So, it's really important to have all the stakeholders in the company on the same page, and really understanding that this is a long-term thing where you'll have these benefits and not something where you start off and you do sort of half-heartedly.Emily: Are there two or three, sort of, primary open-source strategies?Tracy: Yeah, no, I think—[00:13:42 unintelligible] I think you can break it down. So, people would talk about the Red Hat model, which is really hard to reproduce but everything was open-source, and then they have this whole—they layered on top of that with a lot of services, and things. And then there's the open-core model where you're separating an open-source portion of the product, and then you add on a lot of features and things that add value that aren't being produced in the open-source. So, I think there's those, and then the new one that we're starting to see more of is—just looking much more at SaaS platforms. So, you have some open-source code, but your real—where you're making money is by offering it as a service.Emily: And how does that differ for a company whose core business isn't software? So, for example, if you're something like a Home Depot, and almost undoubtedly you use open-source software. If Home Depot wants to start contributing as well, as part of their company strategy, what should they know? What should a company like that think about as strategies?Tracy: Yeah, no, I think that's a great point because we do see a lot of companies contributing, and actually a lot of innovation is coming from companies who use software, but they have a different focus. And I think one good example, as well, is Capital One, who have a lot of open-source they contribute and maintain. And it's different, it's separate from, kind of, the main banking function. So, I think, again, for companies like that, it's just mapping out the strategy, being very deliberate in is there some sort of monetization around this, or is it more—you know, we see a lot of companies who want to do it to be seen as leaders in the field, and to, sort of, share some innovation to be seen as an attractive place, as well, for people to work with, and just to really drive that industry to help the innovation and to help make it a good place to be. So, I think the same things apply there, although maybe the business models allow, perhaps, for a bit more freedom. And we often find in those companies, they will have open-source program offices, which is a dedicated set of people who will map out the strategy and pull the whole company along in the same direction.Emily: Obviously, a big part of open-source is building a community. How do you do this? How do you herd the cats in a way that advances your project? And I'm actually curious, I don't know if you have a perspective on this from both somebody—an individual starting a project, and a company that wants to create a community around a particular project?Tracy: Yeah, no, I think that's a really great question. And people are always attracted to, I think, you want to start out with the big idea: why is your project going to do things better than before, or what's nicer about it? So, I think you have to start with, I guess you'd call it, like, you're [00:16:58 unintelligible] for your open-source project; the reason people are going to be attracted to it, and they're going to come and say, “Actually, I want to be part of this.” Because I think people do want to feel part of something bigger than themselves. They also want to see other people contributing, and everybody pulling their weight, and not necessarily any kind of biases for specific companies. So, the more open you can make it, the more transparent you can be about how things happen, people love to—if they're committing, and folks in open-source do commit fully—they want to know that they're not going to be taken advantage of, that they can do that, and they can really change the way the project is going to—they can feel the change they're going to make. So, I think it's important just to go to those principles of openness and transparency, and to let people participate. I think sometimes having clear ways—like with Jenkins, we saw that originally it really thrived because people could write their plugins, and they could make it their own, and they could share them and show them to their friends. And it's the same idea with GitHub, things that make developers look good as well, while they're contributing to open-source always makes for very, very successful projects.Emily: What do you think are common mistakes that people—individuals or companies make around nurturing the community?Tracy: Yeah, I think the mistakes are always connected to control and wanting to control too much or in a too specific way. And you could almost—I don't know if this is a good analogy, but it's almost like, I guess, parenting, in a way. You might be tempted to be very regimented and say, “Okay, your child can do this, or they can't do that.” But then you sort of lose out in finding out where could this go? How big could this grow? So, I think it's finding the right level of control so that the project can take on a life of its own and be used in ways that perhaps you couldn't even imagine. I think that's when the real magic happens. But it does take a leap of faith and understanding that you will be able to reap some business benefit out of this if that is your aim as well.Emily: Do you think that that's easier for individuals or for companies to achieve?Tracy: I think it depends on what people are going into it for. And for individuals, I think often it's they want to share their idea with the world or they want to build a reputation, which is very synonymous with doing the project. Having said that, individuals can have the same issues around wanting to control it, but I think there's perhaps a different monetization emphasis which would make it easier.Emily: Actually, I had a similar question related to continuous delivery which is, do you find that there are common mistakes that you see people making?Tracy: Yes. And some of the mistakes, I guess—one of the most common mistakes is a pretty boring one. And I know why it happens, but [laughs] it's just around documentation, to be honest. And it's the, “Okay, we're going to write the code, and then we're not going to necessarily document it or share the way people can either get involved or use a project.” And it's just—documentation is hard. Good documentation is really hard. Things keep changing, and it's boring to go keep updating them. But it's so incredibly important, and some of the most successful open-source projects have always provided that kind of self-service set of docs where people don't have to be asking the same questions over and over again. They really can go off and feel empowered to do things and to do things and not feel like they're getting it wrong or wasting their time, which I think is really important when building community. So, yeah, just write good docs, everybody.Emily: And do you think there's anything else specifically related to how companies approach continuous delivery, that there's something that a lot of them are not doing right?Tracy: With continuous delivery, especially today where everybody's in a really, kind of, tricky situation where they're trying to make this move to using cloud-native technologies because the benefits are so huge, but at the same time, all these technologies are coming very thick and fast, and nobody's sure—people have tried technologies which are now no longer used, so this is a bit of fear of saying, “Okay, is this going to be a safe bet? And at the same time, while I'm trying to decide if that's the right technology to use, I'm having to restructure my teams, and change of habits is really hard, and we've got all these additional environments we're having to deliver software for.” So, it's a huge challenge, and everything has to be done in balance: you have to get the tools, and you have to get the technology, and you have to get the people right. You can't do any one of those and hope it's going to work, you have to do this juggling act within your organization. And that's massively, massively challenging, especially when you are trying to change long-held behaviors and habits people have, and just ask them to do things in a different way.Emily: Do you think technology is more challenging, or people skills organization is more challenging?Tracy: Yeah, I think the thing with technology that is more challenging today is, especially in the CI/CD space, we have a lot of different types of tools. And we don't have standard ways to talk about—like, we don't have standardization of terms, so different things have different meanings to different people. So, you might say ‘a pipeline' but it might mean—the scope might change depending on who you're talking to. And so it's really hard for people to understand, how do I connect these different tools together? There's very poor interoperability, as well, which is another thing the Continuous Delivery Foundation wants to try and solve. So, I think those are key areas. Security is another one, which makes it really hard when you break things up. And no one's taking responsibility for the interaction between different platforms of different open-source technology written by different people, that becomes really tricky. So, I think we do need solutions at a community level, and we need communities working together closer to tackle this proliferation, and lack of interoperability, and new security concerns that we have to deal with as an industry.Emily: Is there anything else that I didn't think to ask that you'd like to add?Tracy: Yeah, no. I think what we're doing in the Continuous Delivery Foundation, if I can say a little bit about that, it is a relatively new open-source foundation. And I think it's a good place to bring people together where we're trying to tackle these issues. So, things like interoperability, we have an interoperability working group. And one of the first things that happened in that group as people would come together and talk about the different tools, is that we spontaneously realized we needed to define the tools. And there was a page set up where everybody could write down the definition of how their tool—use different terms. You know, is it a step? Or what do you call it in your tool? So, we have this what we call, like, the Rosetta Stone, of CI/CD tools. So, it compares across—whether it's all kinds of Git providers or pipeline orchestration tools, was the different terminology. And I think from there, we're going to look to see how we can standardize as an industry, just to make it simpler for people because I think—I would really hate to be someone new coming into the industry today and trying to figure out where to start, which tool to try out because the amount of noise and confusion is at all-time high levels.Emily: That's absolutely fair. And in fact, speaking of tools, my next question is, what tool do you really rely on? What engineering tool would you not be able to work without?Tracy: Yeah, well, they kind of say for developers, and I think this rings true for me as well, you're kind of in three places. You're in, like, GitHub and Slack, and then your development environment which use VS code, and like many people. So, those are, kind of, the three development environments. I think, when I look at CI/CD, and we look at new technology in the space that's, kind of, gaining quick adoption, there's two projects in CDF which are starting to really resonate. And one is Tekton, which came out of Google, and their Knative serverless platform. But that's looking to have these standardized building blocks for CI/CD pipelines. And then the other one is Jenkins X, which, incidentally, uses the building blocks of Tekton to stitch together a CI/CD experience, if you wish, that pulls in Kubernetes, and Helm, and all those other projects to give a really nice developer experience just generating pipelines for you, so you don't have to write things by hand, and giving you preview environments, and really just trying to take advantage of all the power that cloud-native affords you in delivering software.Emily: And then lastly, how can listeners connect with you or follow you?Tracy: Yeah, no, I think the best place is Twitter. So, find me Twitter at @tracymiranda, and in all the continuous delivery working groups, and the communities we're building there. So, find that on cd.foundation, and, yeah, come join the community. We're having some great conversations in the space.Emily: Well, thank you so much, Tracy, for joining us.Tracy: Yeah, thanks for having me. And yeah, really great conversation and questions.Emily: Thanks for listening. I hope you've learned just a little bit more about The Business of Cloud Native. If you'd like to connect with me or learn more about my positioning services, look me up on LinkedIn: I'm Emily Omier—that's O-M-I-E-R—or visit my website which is emilyomier.com. Thank you, and until next time.Announcer: This has been a HumblePod production. Stay humble.

A warm welcome to John Harris who will be joining us for his first time on the show today to discuss our exciting topic, CI and CD in cloud native! CI and CD are two terms that usually get spoken about together but are actually two different things entirely if you think about them. We begin by getting into exactly what these differences are, highlighting the regulatory aspects of CD in contrast to the future-focussed nature of CI. We then move on to a deep exploration of their benefits in optimizing processes in cloud native space through automation and surveillance from development to production environments. You’ll hear about the benefits of automatic building in container orchestration, the value of make files and local test commands, and the evolution of CI from its ‘rubber chicken’ days with Martin Fowler and Jez Humble. We take a deep dive into the many ways that containers differ from regular binary as far as deployment methods, build speed, automation, run targets, realtime reflections of changes, and regulation. Moreover, we talk to the challenges of transitioning between testing and production environments, getting past human error through automation, and using sealed secrets to manage clusters. We also discuss the benefits and drawbacks of different CI tools such as Kubebuilder, Argo, Jenkins X, and Tekton. Our conversation gets wrapped up by looking at some of the exciting developments on the horizon of CI and CD, so make sure to tune in! Follow us: https://twitter.com/thepodlets Website: https://thepodlets.io Feeback: info@thepodlets.io https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/thepodlets/issues Hosts: Bryan Liles Nicholas Lane Key Points From This Episode: • The difference between CI and CD.• Understanding the meaning of CD: ‘continuous delivery’ and ‘continuous deployment’.• Building an artifact that can be deployed in the future is termed ‘continuous integration’.• The benefits of continuous integration for container orchestration: automatic building.• What to do before starting a project regarding make files and local test commands.• Kubebuilder is a tool that scaffolds out the creation of controllers and web hooks.• Where CI has got to as far as location since its ‘rubber chicken’ co-located days.• The prescience of Martin Fowler and Jez Humble regarding continuous integration.• The value of running tests in a CI process for quality maintenance purposes.• What makes containers great as far as architecture, output, deployment, and speed.• The benefits of CD regarding deployment automation, reflection, and regulation.• Transitioning between testing and production environments using targets, clusters, pipelines.• Getting past human error through automation via continuous deployment.• What containers mean for the traditional idea of environments.• How labeling factors into the simplicity of transitioning from development to production.• What GitOps means for keeping track of changes in environments using tags.• How sealed secrets stop the need to change an app when managing clusters.• The tools around CD and what a good CD system should look like.• Using Argo and Spinnaker to take better advantage of hardware.• How JenkinsX helps mediate YAML when installing into clusters.• Why the customizable nature of CI tools can be seen as negative.• The benefits of using cloud native-built tools like Tekton.• Perspectives on what is missing in the cloud native space.• A definition of blue-green deployments and how they operate in service meshes.• The business abstraction elements of CI tools that are lacking.• Testing and data storage-related aspects of CI/CD that need to be developed. Quotes: “With the advent of containers, now it’s as simple as identifying the images you want and basically running that image in that environment.” — @bryanl [0:18:32] “The whole goal whenever you’re thinking about continuous delivery or continuous deployment is that any human intervention on the actual moving of code is a liability and is going to break.” — @bryanl [0:21:27] “Any time you’re in developer tooling, everyone wants to do something slightly differently. All of these tools are so tweak-able that they become so general.” — @johnharris85 [0:34:23] Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: John Harris — https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnharris85/Jenkins — https://jenkins.io/CircleCI — https://circleci.com/Drone — https://drone.io/Travis — https://travis-ci.org/GitLab — https://about.gitlab.com/Docker — https://www.docker.com/Go — https://golang.org/Rust — https://www.rust-lang.org/Kubebuilder — https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/kubebuilderMartin Fowler — https://martinfowler.com/Jez Humble — https://continuousdelivery.com/about/David Farley — https://dfarley.com/index.htmlAMD — https://www.amd.com/enIntel — https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/homepage.htmlWindows — https://www.microsoft.com/en-za/windowsLinux — https://www.linux.org/Intel 386 — http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/6192/Introduction-of-Intel-386/386SX — https://www.computerworld.com/article/2475341/flashback--remembering-the-386sx.html386DX — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386Pentium — https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/pentium.htmlAMD64 — https://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/AMD64.htmlARM — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architectureTomcat — http://tomcat.apache.org/Netflix — https://www.netflix.com/za/GitOps — https://www.weave.works/technologies/gitops/Weave — https://www.weave.works/Argo — https://www.intuit.com/blog/technology/introducing-argo-flux/Spinnaker — https://www.spinnaker.io/Google X — https://x.company/Jenkins X — https://jenkins.io/projects/jenkins-x/YAML — https://yaml.org/Tekton — https://github.com/tektonCouncourse CI — https://concourse-ci.org/ Transcript: EPISODE 11 [INTRODUCTION] [0:00:08.7] ANNOUNCER: Welcome to The Podlets Podcast, a weekly show that explores Cloud Native one buzzword at a time. Each week, experts in the field will discuss and contrast distributed systems concepts, practices, tradeoffs and lessons learned to help you on your cloud native journey. This space moves fast and we shouldn’t reinvent the wheel. If you’re an engineer, operator or technically-minded decision maker, this podcast is for you. [EPISODE] [00:00:41] BL: Back to the Kubelets Podcast, episode 11. I’m Bryan Liles, and today we have Nicholas Lane. [00:00:50] NL: Hello! [00:00:51] BL: And joining us for the first time, we have John Harris. [00:00:55] JH: Hey everyone. How is it going? [00:00:56] BL: All right! So today we’re going to talk about CI and CD in cloud native. I want to start this off with this whole term CI and CD. We talk about them together, that are two different things almost entirely if you think about them. But CI stands for continuous integration, and then we have CD. What does CD stand for? [00:01:19] NL: Compact disk. [00:01:20] BL: Right. True, and actually I’ve used that term before. I actually do agree. But what else does CD stand for? [00:01:28] NL: It’s continuous deployment right? [00:01:30] BL: Yeah, and? [00:01:31] JH: Continuous delivery. [00:01:32] NL: Oh! I forgot about that one. [00:01:35] BL: Yeah, that’s the interesting thing, is that as we talk about tech and we give things acronyms, CD is just a great one. Change in directories, compact disk, continuous delivery and continuous deployment. Here’s the bonus question, does anyone here know the difference between continuous delivery and continuous deployment? [00:01:58] NL: Now that’s interesting. [00:01:59] JH: I would go ahead and say continuous delivery is the ability to move changes through the pipeline, but you still have the ability to do human intervention at any stage, and usually deployments production and continuous delivery would be a business decision, whereas continuous deployment is no gating and everything just go straight to product. [00:02:18] BL: Oh, John! Gold start for you, because that is one of the common ones. I just like to bring that up because we always talk about CI and CD as they are just one thing, but they’re actually way bigger topics and we’ve already introduced three things here. Let’s start at the beginning and let’s talk about continuous integration, a.k.a CI. I’ll start off. We have CI, and what is the goal of CI? I think that we always get boggled down with tech terms and all these technology and all these packages from all these companies. But I’d like to boil CI down to one simple thing. The process of continuous integration is to build an artifact that can be deployed somewhere at some future date at some future time by some future person, process. Everything else is a detail of the system you choose to use. Whether you use Jenkins, or CircleCI, or Drone, or you built your own thing, or you’re using Travis, or any of the other online CI tools. At the end of the day, you’re building either – If you’re doing web development. Maybe you’re building out Docker files, because we’re in cloud native. I mean docker images, because we’re in cloud native. But if you’re not, maybe you’re just building JARs, WARs, or EARs, or a ZIP file, or a binary, or something. I’d just like to start off, start this off with there. Any more thoughts on continuous integration? [00:03:48] NL: Yeah. I think the only times that I’ve ever used something that’s like continuous integration is when I’ve been doing like more container orchestration, like development, things on top of like things like Kubernetes, for instance. The thing I really like about it is like the concept of being able to like, from my computer, save and do an automatic save and push to a local repo and have all of the pieces get built for me automatically somewhere else, and I just love that so much because it saves so much brain thinky juice to run every command to make the binary you need. [00:04:28] BL: So did you actually create those scripts yourself? [00:04:30] NL: Some of them. When I’ve used things like GitLab, I use the pipeline that exists there and just fiddled around with like a little bit of code, like some bash there, but like not too much because GitLab has a pretty robust pipeline. Travis — I don’t think I needed to actually. Travis had a pretty good just go make Docker build, scripts already templated out for you. [00:04:53] JH: Yeah. I’d like to tell people whenever you start any project, whether it’s big or small, especially if it’s on – Not on Windows. I’ll tell you something different if it’s on Windows. But if you’re developing on a Mac or developing on Linux, the first thing you should do in your project is create a make file or your programming language equivalent of a make file, and then in that make file what you should do is write a command that will build your software that runs its tests locally, and also builds – whatever the process is. I mean, if you’re running in Go, you do a Go build. If you’re using Rust, build with Rust, or C++, or whatever before you even write any code. The reason why is because the hardest part is making your code build, and if you leave that to the end, you’re actually making it harder on yourself. If your code build works from the beginning, all you have to do is change it to fit what you’re doing rather than thinking about it when it’s crunch time. [00:05:57] NL: I actually ran into that exact scenario recently, because I’ve been building some tooling around some Kubernetes stuff, and the first one I did, I built it all manually by hand. Then at the end I was like – I gave it to the person who wanted it and they’re like, “So, where’s the make file?” I’m like, “Where’s the what?” So I had go in and like fill in the make file, and that was a huge pain in the butt. Then recently the other thing I’ve been using is Kubebuilder. John, you and I have been talking about Kubebuilder quite a bit, but using Kubebuilder, and one of the things it does for you is it scaffolds out and a make file for you, and that was like going from me doing it by myself to having it already exist for you or just having it at the beginning was so much better. I totally agree with you, Brian. [00:06:42] BL: So quick point of order here. For those of us who don’t know what Kubebuilder is. What is Kubebuilder? [00:06:48] NL: Kubebuilder is a tool that was created by members of the Kubernetes Community to scaffold out the creation of controllers and web hooks. What a controller is in Kubernetes is a piece of software that waits, sort of watches a specific object or many specific objects and reconciles them. If they noticed that something has changed and you want to make an action based on that change, the controller does that for you. [00:07:17] JH: Okay. So it actually makes the action of working with CRDs and Kubernetes much easier than creating it all yourself. [00:07:26] NL: Correct. Yeah. So, for instance, the one that I made for myself was a tool that watched, updated and watched a specific CRD, but it wasn’t necessarily a controller. It was just like flagging on whether or not a change occurred, and I used the dynamic client, and that was a huge headache on of itself. Kubebuilder has like the ability to watch not just CRDs, but any object in Kubernetes and then reconcile them based on changes. [00:07:53] NL: It’s pretty great. [00:07:54] BL: All right. So back to CI. John, do you have any opinions on CI or anecdotes or anything like that? [00:07:59] JH: Yeah. I think one of the interesting things about the original kind of philosophy of CI outside of tooling was like trunk-based development that every develop changes get integrated into trunk as soon as possible. You don’t get into integration hell and rebasing. I guess it’s kind of interesting when you apply that to a cloud native landscape where like when that stuff came out with like Martin Fowler or Jez Humble probably 10, 15 years ago almost now, a lot of dev teams were co-located. You could do CI. I think there was a rubber chicken method where you didn’t use a tool. It was just whoever had the chicken that’s responsible for the build. Just to pull everyone else’s changes. But now it seems like everything is branch-based. When you look at a project like Kubernetes, there’s a huge number of contributors all geographically displaced, different time zones, lots of different branches and features going on at the same time. It’s interesting how these original principles of continuous integration from the beginning now apply to these huge projects in the cloud native landscape. [00:08:56] BL: Yeah, that’s actually a great point of how prescient Martin Fowler has been for many, many years, and even with Jez Humble being able to see these problems 10, 15 years ago and be able to describe them. I believe Jez Humble wrote the CD book, the continuous delivery book. [00:09:15] JH: Yeah, with David Farley, I think. [00:09:18] NL: Yeah. Yeah, he did. So, John, you brought up some good things about CI. I try to simplify everything. I think the mark of someone who really knows what they’re talking about is being able to explain everything in the simplest words possible, and then you can work backwards when people understand. I started off by saying that CI produces an artifact. I didn’t talk about branches or anything like that, or even the integration piece. But now let’s go into that a little bit. There are a lot of misconceptions about CI in general, but one of the things that we talk about is that you have to run test. No, you don’t have to run test, but should you? Yes, 100% of the time. Your CI process, your integration process should actually build your software and run the test, because running the test on this dedicated service or hardware wherever it is ensures that the quality of your software is there at least as much as your developers have insured the quality in the test. It’s very important those run, and a lot of bugs of course can be spotted by running a CI. I mean, we are all sorts of developers here, and I tell you what, sometimes I forget to run the test locally and CI catches me before a commit makes it into master and it has a huge typo or a whole bunch of print lines in there. Moving on here, thinking about CI and cloud native. Whenever you’re creating a cloud native app, have you ever thought about the differences between let’s say creating just a regular binary that maybe runs on a server, but not in a container on somebody’s cloud native stack, i.e. Kubernetes? Have you ever thought about the differences of things to think about? [00:11:04] BL: Yeah. So part of it is – I would imagine or I believe it’s like things like resource, like what resources you need or what architecture you’re deploying into. You need the binary to make like run in this – With containerization, it’s easy because you’re like, “I know that the container is going to be this architecture,” but you can’t necessarily guarantee that outside of a containerized world. I mean, I suppose you can being like with the right tooling setup you can be like, “I only want to run on this.” But that isn’t necessarily guaranteed, because any computer that runs on could be just whatever architecture that happens to land on, right? Also, something to – I think of is like how do you start processes on disparate computers in a controlled fashion? Something like, again, with containers, you can trust that the container runtime will run it for you. But without that, it seems like a much harder task. [00:12:01] NL: Yeah, I would agree. Then I said that containers in general just help us out, because most of our workloads go on some AMD or Intel 64 bit and it’s Linux. We know what our output is going to be. So it’s not like in the old days where you had to actually figure out what your run target was. I mean, that’s even on Intel stacks. I mean, I’m updating myself here where you had like – When the 386 was out and then you had the 386SX and the 386DX, there were different things there, and you actually compile your code different. Then when the 46 came out and then when we had introduction of Pentium chips, things were different. But now we can pretty much all target AMD64, and in some cases, I mean, there are some chip things like the bigger encryption things that are in the newer chips. But for the most part, we know what our deployed target is going to be. But the cool thing is also that we don’t have to have Intel or AMD64. It could be ARM32 or ARM64, and with the addition to a lot of the work that has been going on in Windows land lately, we can have Windows images. I don’t know so many people were doing that yet. I’m not out and part of the field, but I like that the opportunity is there. [00:13:25] JH: Oh! I think one of the interesting things is the deployment method as well. Now with containers, everything is kind of an immutable rip and replace. Like if we develop an application, we know that the old container is going to stop when I deploy a new one. I think Netflix were doing a little bit of this before containers and some other folks with like baking AMIs and using that immutable method. But I think before that it was if we had a WAR file, we had to throw it back into Tomcat, let Tomcat pick it up or whatever. Everything was a little bit more flaky in terms of deployment. We had to do a lot of checks around deployment rather than just bring something out, bring something back in blue/green, whatever. [00:13:59] BL: Well, I actually like that you brought that up, because that’s actually one of the greatest parts of this whole cloud native thing, is that when we’re using containers and we’re deploying with containers, we know what our file system is going to look like, because we created it. There would not be some rogue file or another configuration there that will trip up our deployment, because at build time, we’ve created the environment. It’s much better than that facility that Netflix was doing with baking AMIs. In a previous life, I actually ran the facility for baking AMIs at a large company where we had thousands of developers on more than a thousand dev teams, and we had a lot of spyware. Whenever you had to build an image, it was fine in one account, but if you had let’s say a thousand accounts with the way that AWS works and encrypted images, you actually had to copy all the images to all the accounts. It couldn’t actually boot it from your account. That process would literally take all night to get it done across all of our accounts. If you made a mistake, guess what? You get to do it again. So I am glad that we actually have this thing called a container and all these things based on CRI, the container runtime, that we are able to quickly build containers. I don’t want to just limit this conversation to continuous integration. Let’s get into the other parts too with deployment and delivery. What is so novel about CD and the cloud native world? [00:15:35] NL: I think to me it’s the ability to have your code or your artifact or whatever it is, whatever you’re working on. When you make a change, you can see the change reflected in reality, whatever your reality looks like, without your intervention. I mean, you might have had to set up all the pipelines and all that jargon, but when you press save in VS code and it creates a branch and runs all your tests and then deploys it for you or delivers it for you into what you’d define as reality, that’s just so nice, because it really kind of sucks having to do the like, “Okay, I’ve got a new deployment. Destroy the old deployment. Put in the new one or like rev the new image tag or whatever in the deployment you’re doing.” All these manual steps, again, thinky-brain juice, it takes pieces of your attention away, and having these pieces like added for you is just so nice. [00:16:30] BL: Yeah, what do you think, John? [00:16:32] JH: Yeah. I think just something in the state of DevOps we’ve bought one of the best predictors for a company’s success is like cycle time of feature from ideation to production. I think like the faster we can get that cycle – It kind of gets me interested. How long does an application take to build? If it takes two hours, how good are you at getting features out there quickly? Maybe one of the drivers with microservices, smaller pieces independently deployed, we can get features out to production quicker, because I think the name of the game is just about enabling developers to put the decision in the hands of the business to decide when the customer should see that feature. I think the tighter we can make that cycle, the better for everyone. [00:17:14] BL: Oh, no! I agree. I love and hate web services, but what I do like is the idea of making these abstractions smaller, and if the abstractions are smaller, it’s less code. A lot of the languages we use now are faster compiling, let’s say, a large C++ project. That could take literally two hours to compile. But now when we have languages like Go, and Rust is not as fast, but it’s not slow as well. Then we have all of our interpret languages, whether it’d be Python, or JavaScript, or TypeScript, where we can actually go from an idea, run the test in a few minutes and build this image that we can actually run and see it almost in real-time. Now with the complexity of the tools, I mean, the features that are built in the tools, we can now easily manage multiple deployment environments, because think about before, you would have a dev environment, and that would be the Wild West. That would be literally where it would be awful. You might have to rebuild it every couple of months. Then you would have staging, and then maybe you would have some kind of pre-prod environment just as like your final smoke test, and then you would have your production. Maintaining all the software on all those was extremely hard. But now with the advent of containers, now it’s as simple as identifying the images you want and basically running that image in that environment. I like where we’ve ended up. But with all power comes new problems, and just because we can deploy quicker means we just run into a lot of different problems we didn’t run into before. The first one that I’ll bring up is the complexity. Auto conversion between environments, so moving code between test staging and production. How do we do that? Any ideas before I throw some out there? [00:19:11] NL: I guess you would have different, or maybe the same pipeline but different targets for like if say you’re using something like Kubernetes. You could have one part of your pipeline deploy initially to this Kubernetes context, which points to like one cluster. It’s building up clusters by environment type and then deploying into those, running your tests, see if it runs properly and then switch over to the next context to apply that image tag and that information and then just go down the chain until you go to production. [00:19:44] BL: Well, that’s interesting. One thing I’d like to throw out there, and I’m not advocating any particular product. But the idea of having pipelines for continuous integration and your CD process is great, where you can now have gates and you can basically automate the whole thing. Code goes into CI and we built an artifact, and a message can go out automatically to an approver or not, and that message could say, “Hey! This code is going to be integrated into our trunk or our master branch.” They can either do it themselves manually as a lot of people do or they can actually maybe click on a link or check a checkbox and this gets integrated in. Then what automatically could happen at this point is, and I’ve seen a lot of companies doing this, is now we take that software and we spin up a new whole environment and we just install that software. For that one particular feature that you worked on, you can actually get an automatic environment for that. Then what we can do is we can take that environment itself and we can now merge this maybe into a staging branch or tag it with a staging label, and that automatically gets moved to staging. Depending on how complicated you are, how advanced you are, now you can actually have it go out to your product people or people who make decisions, maybe your executives, and they can view the software in whatever context it happens to be in. Then they can say, “Okay.” Now that’s when we’re talking about now we can hit okay and the software just keeps on moving to the pipeline and it gets into production. The whole goal here, and this is actually where your goal should be just in general whenever you’re thinking about continuous delivery or continuous deployment is that any human intervention on the actual moving of code is a liability and is going to break, and it’s going to break because on Friday afternoon at 5:25 PM, someone’s thinking about the weekend and they’re not thinking about code, and they’re going to break your build. Our goal is to build these delivery systems that are Friday afternoon proof. We can push code anytime. It doesn’t matter. We trust our process. [00:22:03] JH: I think it’s a great point about environments. I think back in the day, an environment used to be a set of machines, and then test used to be – staging was where there were kind of more stable versions of APIs and folks were more coordinated pushing things into them. What really is an environment? Like you said, when we push micro services or whatever service, we can spin up an entire Kubernetes cluster just for that service. We can set it up. We can run whatever tests we want. We could tear it down. With the advent of Elastic compute, and now containers, they really enabled this world where like the traditional idea of an environment and what constitutes an environment is starting to get a bit kind of sloppy and blend into each other. [00:22:42] BL: I like it though. I think it’s progress. [00:22:45] NL: I totally agree. The one that scares me but I also find like really interesting, is the idea of having all of your environments in one set of machines. So clusters. Having a multi-tenanted set of machines for like dev staging and production, they’re all running in the same place and they’re all just separated by like what configuration of like connectivity from different networking and things like that set up. When a user hits your website, bryanliles.com, they should go to the production images, but those are binaries, and those binaries should be running in the same space essentially as the development ones. It’s scary, but it’s also like allows for like some really fast testing and integration. I find it to be very fascinating. [00:23:33] BL: I mean that’s where we want to be. I find more often than not that people have separate clusters for dev and staging and production. But using the Kubernetes API, you don’t have to do that, because what we can do is we can force deployment or workload to a set of machines based on their label. That’s actually one of the very strong positives for Kubernetes. Forget all the complexity. One of the things that makes it easy is to say that I want this particular deployment to only live on my development machines. Well, which development machine? I don’t care. What if we increase our development pool size? We just re-label nodes. It doesn’t matter. Now we can just control that. When it comes down to controlling cost and complexity, this is actually one idea that Kubernetes is leading and just making it easier to actually use more of your hardware. [00:24:31] NL: Yeah. Absolutely. That’s so great because if you think about it from a CI/CD standpoint, at that point all you have to do is just change the label to where you’re applying this piece of code. So you’re like, “Node selector, label equals dev. Okay, now it’s staging. Okay, now it’s prod.” [00:24:47] BL: So this brings me into the next part of what I want to talk about or introduce to you all today. We’re on a journey as you probably can tell. Now whenever we have our CI process and we’re building and we’re deploying, where do we store our configurations? [00:25:04] NL: [inaudible 00:25:04]. [00:25:06] BL: Ever thought about that? [00:25:08] NL: Okay. I mean, in a Kubernetes perspective, you might be using something like etcd to sort of – But like everything else, what if you’re using Travis? [inaudible 00:25:16] store everything. Everything should be versioned, right? Everything should be – [00:25:20] BL: Yeah, 100%. [00:25:24] NL: I would store everything these as much as possible. Now, do I do that all the time? God, no! Absolutely not. I’m a human being after all. [00:25:32] BL: I mean, that’s what I actually want to bring up, is this concept of GitOps. GitOps was a coined term by my friend, Alexis, who works at Weave. I think Weave created this. Really what it’s about is instead of having – basically, Kubernetes is declarative, and our configurations can be declarative too, because what we can do is make sure is we can have tech space configurations, and for one reason it’s because tech space means it can be versioned. It can be diffs. We take those text versions and we put them in our same repository we put our code in. How do we know what’s in production at any given time or any given time in the past? We just look at the tags of what we did. We had a push at 5:15 on August 13th. Of course, this is 5:15, you could see time, because any other time doesn’t exist in the computer land. So what we could do is we could just basically tag that particular version as like 2019-08-13. If I said 5-17-55, and we call 01 just so we could have 100 deploys in a day. If we started doing that, now not only can we control what we have, but we can also know what was on in any given environment at any given time. Because with Git and with Mercurial and any other of these – Well, only the popular ones, with Git and Mercurial, you can definitely do this. Any given commit can have multiple tags. You could actually have a tag that hit dev and then a tag that, let’s say, hits staging, and then a tag that hit production, the exact same code but three different tags. So you know at any given time what happened. [00:27:18] JH: Yeah, the config thing is so important. I think that was another Jez Humble quote where it was like, “Give me three hours access to your code and I’ll break it. But give me 5 minutes with your configurations and I’ll break it.” Almost like every big bug is, right, someone was accidentally pointing the prod server to the staging database like, “Oops! Their API was pointing to the wrong port, and everything came down,” or we changed the wrong versions or whatever. I think that’s one of the intersections of developers and operations folks. We kind of talked about like Dev Ops and things like that. I really love the idea of everything being kept in Git and using GitOps, but then we’ve got things like secrets and configuration that shouldn’t be seen or being able to be edited by developers, but need to be for ops folks. But we still want to keep the single point of truth. Things like sealed secrets have really enabled us to move along in this area where we can keep everything in text-based version. [00:28:08] BL: All right. Quick point of order here. Sealed secrets is a controller/CRD created by Bitnami. What it allows you do is, John – [00:28:23] JH: It allows you – It creates a CRD, which is sealed secret, which is a special resource type in your cluster and also creates a key, which is only available to that operator running in your cluster. You can submit a sealed secret in plain text or you can submit a secret in plain text and it will throw it back out as an encrypted secret with that key and then you can check that into version control. Then when you go to deploy your software, you can deploy that encrypted secret into the cluster. The operator will pick it up, decrypt it using only the key that it has access to and then put it back in the cluster as a regular secret. Your application just interacts with regular Kubernetes secrets. You don’t need to change your app. They deal with all the encryption outside of the user intervention. [00:29:03] BL: I think the most important part of what you said is that this allows us to have no excuses about what we can store in our repositories for our configuration, because someone is going to make the argument, “No, we can’t store secrets, because someone’s going to be able to see them.” Well, guess what? We never even stored an unencrypted secret in our repository. They’re all encrypted, and it’s still secrets. It’s [inaudible 00:29:25]. I don’t know if anyone’s cracked yet. I’m sure maybe a state level actor has thought of it. But for us regular people, even our companies, like even at VMware, or even at Google, they have not done it yet. So it’s still pretty safe. Thinking even further now, and really what I’m trying to paint the picture of is not just how do you do CD, but really what CD could look like and how it can actually make you happy rather than sad. The next item I wanted to think about was tools around CD and creating tools and what does a good continuous delivery system look like. I kind of hinted about this earlier whenever I was talking about pipelines. The ability to take advantage of your hardware, so we’re deploying to let’s say 100 servers. We’re pulling 5 or 6 services to 100 node cluster. We can do those all at once, and what we can do is you want to have a system that can actually run like this. I could think of a couple. From Intuit, there is Argo, and they have Argo CD. There is the tool created by Google and maybe Netflix. I want to have to look that one up. It’s funny, because they quoted – [00:30:40] JH: Spinnaker? [00:30:42] BL: Spinnaker. They quoted me in their book, and I don’t remember their name. I’m sorry anyone from Spinnaker product listening. Once again, not advocating any products, but they have the concept of doing pipelines. Then you also have other things for your projects, like if you’re using open source, Drone. Another X Google – I think it was X-Googler that made this. Basically, they have ways you can do more than one thing at a time. The most important piece about this is not only can you do more than one thing at a time, is that you have a programmatic check that it’ll make sure that you can verify that whatever you did was successful. We deployed to staging or we deployed to our smoke test servers for our smoke test, and that requires our testing people and an executive signoff. They can actually just wait until they get their signoff or maybe if it goes over a day or so, they can actually – It just fails, and now the build is done. But that part is pretty neat. Any other topics over here before I start throwing out more? [00:31:45] NL: I think I just have thoughts on some of the tools that we’ve used. Everyone Jenkins. Jenkins can do anything that you want it to do, but you really have to tighten the screws on it. It is super powerful. It’s kind of like Bash, like Bash scripting. It’s super powerful, but you have to know precisely what you’re doing, otherwise it can really hurt you. Actually, I have used Spinnaker in the past, and I’ve really liked it. It has a good UI, very good pipelines. Easy blue/green or canary deployment mechanism, I thought that was great. I’ve looked at Drone, believe it or not, but Drone is actually pretty cool. Check out Drone. I really liked it. [00:32:25] BL: Well, since we’re throwing out products, Jenkins, does have JenkinsX. I have not given it the full rundown yet. But what I do like about it, and I think everyone should pay attention to this if you’re doing a product in this space, is that when you install JenkinsX, you install it locally to your machine. You basically get this binary called JX, and you then tell JX to install it into your cluster. Instead of just doing kubectl apply-f a whole bunch of YAML, it actually ask you questions and it sets up GitHub repositories or wherever you need these repositories. It sets up [inaudible 00:33:01] spaces for you. There’s no just [inaudible 00:33:05] kubectl apply-f HTTPS: I just owned your system, because that’s actually a problem. Then it solves the YAML sprawl, because YAML and Kubernetes is something that is complained about a lot, but it’s how it’s configured. But it’s also just a detail what we’re supposed to be doing, and we actually work with Joe Beda and I could talk about this all the time, is that the YAML is the implementation, but it’s not the idea. The idea is that we build tools on top of that that create YAML so users have to see less YAML. I think that’s a problem with Jenkins, is that it’s so powerful and they’re like, “Well, we want powerful people or smart people to be able to do smart things. So here you go.” The problem with that is that where do I start? It’s a little daunting. So I do think that they definitely came with the much stronger game with this JX command. Just as a little sidebar, we do it as well with our Valero project, and I think that just speaks, should be like the bar for anything. If you’re installing something into a cluster, you should come up with a command line tool that helps you manage the lifecycle of whatever you’re installing to the operator, YAML, whatever. [00:34:18] JH: I think what’s interesting about the options, this is definitely one area where there’s so much nuance. Any time you’re in developer tooling, everyone wants to do something slightly differently. All of these tools are so tweak-able that they become so general. I think it’s probably one of the criticisms that could be leveraged against Jenkins is that you can do everything, and that’s actually a negative as well as a positive. Sometimes it’s too overwhelming. There are too many ways of doing things. I’m a fan of some of the more kind opinionated tools in that space. [00:34:45] BL: Yeah. I like opinionated tools as well, but the problem that we’re having in this cloud native space is that, yeah, Kubernetes is five-years-old now. We are just getting to the point where we actually understand what a good decision is, because there was a lot of guesses before and we’ve done a lot of things, and some of these have been good ideas, but in some cases they have not been great ideas. Even I ran the project case on it. Great idea on paper, but implementation, it required people to know too many things. We’d learned a lot of lessons from that. That’s what I think we’re going to find out in this space is that we’re going to learn little lessons. I say this project from my last project that I was going to bring up is something that I think has learned some of the lessons. Google sponsors a project called Tekton, and if you go to – It’s like I believe, and they have some continuous delivery stuff in there and they implement pipelines. But the neat part is, and this is actually the best part, it’s actually a cloud native built service. So every step of your delivery process, from creating images, to actually putting them on clusters, is backed by a Docker image or a container, and I think that part is pretty neat. So now you can define your steps. What is your step? Well, you can use one of their pre-baked, run this command, or if you have something special, like the example before I was giving out where you would say that you need an approval, maybe it’s a Slack approval. You send something with Slack and it has a checkbox, check yes if you like me. What we can do now is we can actually control that and it’s easy to write something a little Docker image that can actually make that call and then get the request and then it can move it on. If you’re looking at more of a toolkit full of good ideas, I do think that Tekton has definitely has some lots of industry. People are looking at it and it’s probably the best example of getting it right in the cloud native way. Because a lot of the products we have now are not cloud native. We’re talking about Jenkins. We’re talking about Spinnaker and we talk about Drone and Travis, which is totally a SaaS product. They’re not cloud native. Actually, the neat part about Tekton is that it actually comes with its own controllers and its own CRDs. So you can actually build these things up using your familiar Kubernetes tooling, which means in theory we could actually use the tooling that we are deploying. We can actually control it in the same way as our applications, because it’s just yet another object that goes in our cluster. [00:37:21] NL: That does sound pretty cool. One other that I meant to bring up was Concourse. Have you check out Concourse yet? [00:37:27] BL: CouncourseCI. I have not. I have used it, but never in a way where I would have a big opinion on it. [00:37:34] NL: I’m kind of in the same place. I think it’s a good idea. It seems really neat, but I need to kick the tires a little more. I will say that I really like the UI. The structure of the UI is really nice. Everything makes sense, and anything you can click on like drills into something a bit deeper. I think that’s pretty cool, but it is one of the shout that I went out to as well as like another tool that I’m aware of. [00:37:52] BL: Yeah, that’s pretty interesting. So we’ve gone about 40 minutes now. Let’s actually start winding this down, and the way that I’m going to suggest that we wind this down is thinking about where we are now. What’s missing in this space and what else could we actually be doing in the cloud native space to make this work out better? [00:38:12] NL: I think I’d like to see better structured or better examples of blue-green or canary deployments with tests associated, and that might just be like me not looking hard enough at this problem. But anytime I began looking at blue-green, I get the idea of what someone’s done, but I would love to see some implementation details, or any of these opinionated tools having opinions around blue-green and what they specifically do to test it. I feel like I’m just not seeing that. [00:38:41] BL: With blue-green, blue-green is hard to do in Kubernetes without an external tool, because for everyone, a blue-green deployment is, I have a software deployment and we’ll give it a color. We’ll call it blue, and I have the next version, and we’ll call it green. Really what I can do is I basically have two versions of my application deployed and I can use my load balancer, or in this case, my service to just change the label or the selector in my service and now I can point at at my green from my blue. Then I want to deploy again, I can just deploy another blue and then change my label selector again. The problem with this is that you can do it in Kubernetes, just fine. But out of the box with Kubernetes, you will drop traffic, because guess what? What happens to a connection that was initiated or a session that was initiated on the blue cluster when you went to green? Actually, this is a whole conversation in itself about service meshes and this is actually one of the reasons service mesh is a big topic, because you can do this blue-green, or another example would be Netflix and Redblack, or you get the creative people who are like rainbow deployments, because just having two is not good enough for them. So they want to have any number of deployments going at one time. I agree with that 100%. [00:39:57] JH: I think, yeah, integrating tools like launch. [inaudible 00:40:01] and I think there are more which enable – I think we’re missing the business abstractions on this stuff so far. Like you said, it’s kind of hard to do if you need to go into the gritty of it right now, but I think the business abstractions of if we deploy a different version to a certain subset of customers, can we get all of those metrics? Can we get those traces back in? Will you automate it, roll it out? Can we increase the percentage of customers that are seeing those things? Have that all controlled in a Kubernetes native way, but having roll it up to a business and more of an abstraction. I think that stuff is currently missing. I think the underpinning kind of technologies are coming up, stuff like service mesh, but I think it’s the abstraction that’s really going to make it useful, which doesn’t exist today. [00:40:39] BL: Yeah. Actually, that’s pretty close to what I was going to say. We built all these tooling that helps us basically as technologists, but really what it comes down to is the business. A lot of the things we’re talking about where we’re talking about CD is important to the business, but when we’re talking about metrics or trace collection, that’s not important to the business, because they only care about the SLA. This is on the SLO side. What we really need to do is mature our processes enough that we can actually marry our outputs to something that other people can understand that has no jargon and it’s sales going up, sales going down. Everything else is just a detail. So, anything else? [00:41:20] NL: Something I think I’d like to see is in our testing, if there was a good way to accurately show the effect of something at load in a CI/CD component. Because one of the things that I’ve run into is like I’ve got this great idea for how this code should work and when I deploy it, it works great. The like a thousand people touch it all at once and it doesn’t work right anymore. I’d love to have some tool along the way that can test things out of load and like show me something that I could fix before all those people touch it. [00:41:57] BL: Yes, that would be a good tool to have. So John, anything else for you? [00:42:02] JH: I’ll open a can of worms right at the end and say the biggest problem here is probably going to be data when we have a lot of systems we need to talk to each other and we need the data to align between those systems and we have now proliferation of environments and clusters. Like how do we get that data reliably into the place that it needs to be to make up testing robust enough to get things out there? It’s probably an episode on some – [00:42:23] BL: Yeah, that’s a big conversation that if we could answer it, we wouldn’t working at VMware. We would have our own companies doing all these great things. But we can definitely iterate on it. So with that, I think we’re going to wrap it up. Thanks for listening to the Kubelets. I’m Bryan Liles, and with me today was Nicholas Lane and John – Yeah, and John Harris. [00:42:47] JH: Thanks everyone. [00:42:47] BL: All right, we’ll see you next time. [END OF EPISODE] [00:42:50] ANNOUNCER: Thank you for listening to The Podlets Cloud Native Podcast. Find us on Twitter at https://twitter.com/ThePodlets and on the http://thepodlets.io/ website, where you'll find transcripts and show notes. We'll be back next week. Stay tuned by subscribing. [END]See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The company's culture has an important role in how engineers work. The success of Netflix is in part because of its culture. For example, they give engineers freedom and by doing so, interesting engineering systems have emerged. Dianne Marsh, Director of Engineering at Netflix explained some of the ways in which the culture impacts how products are developed. We talked about developer velocity and how Spinnaker, a multi-cloud continuous delivery platform was built. Dianne also explained the aspect from the Netflix culture that she finds the most useful when running an engineering organization.

Arun Chandrasekhar, Program Manager for Azure DevOps OSS, shows Donovan Brown how to continuously deploy containers using the Azure Spinnaker to Kubernetes QuickStart Template (https://aka.ms/azk8sdeploy).