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Pascal Wagner interviews Shane Pogue. He shares how investigative due diligence can reveal whether a sponsor is hiding debt, legal trouble, or even outright fraud, often hidden behind layers of LLCs and international jurisdiction. You'll discover how to identify red flags like inconsistent income, suspicious business structures, or undisclosed legal battles that can spell disaster and how you can practically get started, even with a modest investment. Shane breaks down the often-overlooked aspects of legal background searches, property risk analysis, and the power of aggregate data to predict potential failures before you wire the funds. Pascal Wagner's interview with Shane Pogue explores the critical role of investigative due diligence in uncovering hidden risks associated with sponsors. Pogue details how to detect issues such as undisclosed debt, legal complications, or outright fraud, which are frequently concealed through complex layers of LLCs and international jurisdictions. Shane Pogue Current role: Founder of Aegis Risk Solutions and Investigations, Due Diligence Consultant at Fidelity Investments Based in: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-pogue-6b900a11a/ https://www.aegisrsi.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Gary Lipsky about rising interest rates that are thickening the market, causing fewer deals to hit the shelves but creating a golden window for strategic investors. Gary breaks down the real impact of interest rate hikes, market absorption, and the increasing influence of geopolitical factors like deportations plus what these mean for property valuations and rental demand. You'll discover how sophisticated operators are navigating the complexities of financing, balancing asset management, and making tough decisions like capital calls, all while maintaining operational excellence. Gary Lipsky Current role: President/CEO of Break of Day Capital Based in: Manhattan Beach, California Where to find them: hhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-lipsky/ http://www.BreakofDayCapital.com Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Judd Dunning, who breaks down how American small and mid-cap businesses can leverage sale-leaseback deals to unlock 100% financing, grow their brands, and create win-win outcomes. He shares behind-the-scenes insights from closing billion-dollar deals with Deutsche Bank, the secret advantages of cost segregation accelerated depreciation, and why AI is transforming underwriting cutting days into minutes. You'll discover the key red flags to avoid, how to assess customer concentration risks, and why on-shoring and supply chain shifts are fueling a new industrial boom. Judd Dunning Current role: President at DWG Capital Partners Based in: Los Angeles, California, Where to find them: https://dwg-re.com/our-team/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/judd-dunning/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner sits down with Colin Plume, the founder and CEO of Noble Gold Investments, to explore the dynamic world of precious metals amidst today's volatile economic landscape. They delve into how recent geopolitical shifts, central bank strategies, and supply shortages are influencing the demand for gold and silver. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of the risks and opportunities in buying precious metals at near all-time highs, along with practical advice on evaluating metals providers. The conversation also covers the potential revaluation of U.S. gold reserves and its implications for the market, as well as the importance of owning physical metals versus paper contracts. With a focus on portfolio diversification, Colin offers strategies for incorporating precious metals alongside real estate and business investments, providing a comprehensive guide for those looking to hedge against currency devaluation and financial instability. Collin Plume Current role: Partner, Guardian HR. CEO, My Digital Money, Noble Gold Investments Based in: Los Angeles, California Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/collin-plume/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Christopher Nelson about how accredited investors can position their portfolios for 2026 while balancing income, growth, and capital preservation. They unpack the realities of living off portfolio income, including rising healthcare costs, taxes, and the importance of clean financial reporting across entities. Pascal shares how his family's annual expenses increased significantly once depreciation benefits tapered off, prompting a strategic review of asset allocation and liquidity needs Christopher explains how he runs his micro family office like a business, using a structured “evergreen” framework that assigns every dollar a job: growth, income, or capital preservation . He outlines his income pyramid approach, blending qualified dividend ETFs, covered call ETFs, private credit, and real estate to create more resilient cash flow. The conversation also explores position sizing, treasury strategies, gold versus silver, international diversification, and the importance of a personal board of advisors when making large allocation decisions. Christopher NelsonCurrent role: Founder, WealthOpsBased in: Austin, TexasSay hi to them at: https://wealthops.live | https://www.youtube.com/@managingtechmillions | https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-nelson-wealthops/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Judd Dunning, who breaks down how American small and mid-cap businesses can leverage sale-leaseback deals to unlock 100% financing, grow their brands, and create win-win outcomes. He shares behind-the-scenes insights from closing billion-dollar deals with Deutsche Bank, the secret advantages of cost segregation accelerated depreciation, and why AI is transforming underwriting cutting days into minutes. You'll discover the key red flags to avoid, how to assess customer concentration risks, and why on-shoring and supply chain shifts are fueling a new industrial boom. Judd Dunning Current role: President at DWG Capital Partners Based in: Los Angeles, California, Where to find them: https://dwg-re.com/our-team/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/judd-dunning/ Visit https://www.trustetc.com/ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Shawn Owen, CEO of Salt Lending, to unpack how crypto holders can responsibly leverage Bitcoin for liquidity without taking on unnecessary risk. Shawn shares his journey from traditional real estate investing through the 2008 financial crisis and into early Bitcoin adoption, explaining why lending against crypto mirrors familiar tools like HELOCs more than speculative margin trading. The conversation explores how Bitcoin-backed loans work, what happens during sharp drawdowns, and how Salt structures products to protect both borrowers and lenders. They also discuss why institutional adoption, regulation, and long-term credit infrastructure are critical to Bitcoin's role as a serious financial asset. Shawn OwenCurrent role: CEO, Salt LendingBased in: United StatesSay hi to them at: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-owen-052a6153 Twitter/X: https://x.com/Shawn_OwenJSALT Lending Twitter/X: https://x.com/SALTLendingSALT Lending Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRmyfzXjus8/ Company profile and blog: https://saltlending.com/author/shawn-owen/ Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Jon Brooks, who breaks down why today's real estate market is sending mixed signals—and why getting that interpretation wrong can have real financial consequences. Jon explains how decades of falling interest rates created a powerful tailwind for real estate that no longer exists, especially in overbuilt Sunbelt markets like Florida. The conversation explores what's actually breaking versus what's simply slowing down, including rising insurance and tax costs, declining affordability, demographic headwinds, and stalled migration. Jon also shares why he sold his entire personal real estate portfolio, pivoted into private lending, and ultimately shifted capital into equities as risk-return dynamics changed. This matters because many investors are still relying on outdated assumptions about appreciation, cash flow, and long-term demand. Understanding how interest rates, demographics, and market psychology intersect helps investors reassess where risk is no longer being adequately compensated—and how to position capital without relying on the market to “save” them. Jon BrooksCurrent role: Co-Founder, Momentum Realty; Private Lending Fund ManagerBased in: FloridaSay hi to them at: X - https://x.com/jonbrooks YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@therealjonbrooks Threads - https://www.threads.com/@iamjonbrooks Instagram - instagram.com/iamjonbrooks/?hl=en Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jon.brooks.12 Substack - jonbrooks.substack.com Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Tony Davidow to unpack how institutional investors are thinking about private markets heading into 2026. Tony explains why recent headlines around private credit defaults are often misunderstood, breaking down the difference between CLOs, direct lending, and commercial real estate debt—and why he sees CRE debt, asset-based finance, and secondaries as early-cycle opportunities. The discussion dives into illiquidity as a feature (not a flaw), how institutions size long-term “patient capital,” and why diversified private market funds often outperform single-deal investing over time. Tony also shares his highest-conviction themes for 2026, including secondaries, industrial and multifamily real estate, and infrastructure tied to reshoring, digitization, and demographic shifts. Tony DavidowCurrent role: President, Alternatives, Franklin TempletonBased in: United StatesSay hi to them at: https://www.franklintempleton.com/ | LinkedIn Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Adam Gower, founder of GowerCrowd, to unpack what's really happening behind the scenes when sponsors raise capital in today's market. Adam explains why the current shift toward smaller checks and retail capital isn't necessarily distress, but a strategic move by experienced sponsors preparing for cyclical downturns. He breaks down how LPs can spot sponsor strength versus weakness, why IRR-driven underwriting often leads to failure, and how conservative debt, disciplined operations, and in-house property management separate survivors from casualties. The conversation also explores where Adam sees asymmetric opportunities emerging in 2025–2026, particularly in discounted assets with operational inefficiencies rather than reliance on market rebounds. Adam GowerCurrent role: Founder, GowerCrowdBased in: United StatesSay hi to them at: https://www.gowercrowd.com/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/gowercrowd/ Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Bob Fraser, CFO and chief macro strategist at Aspen Funds, to break down how oil and gas can (or can't) fit inside a diversified portfolio. Bob explains the three parts of the industry (upstream, midstream, downstream), why most LP horror stories come from drilling risk, and why he prefers buying already-producing, non-operated working interests to reduce geology/engineering/operator risk. He also walks through what tax benefits investors often misunderstand (IDCs vs. depletion allowance), the importance of low leverage + hedging in a volatile commodity business, and the key red flags he'd watch for when underwriting deals (vertical wells, unrealistic pricing assumptions, and weak operator quality). Bob FraserCurrent role: CFO and Chief Macro Strategist, Aspen FundsBased in: Overland Park, KansasSay hi to them at: Website: https://investlikeabillionaire.org Company: https://aspenfunds.us LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobfraser10/ Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
*Previously aired episode* Pascal Wagner interviews Russell Gray, the long-time co-host of the Real Estate Guys Radio Show and a seasoned LP investor. Russell dives deep into the critical role macroeconomics plays in investment success, sharing his personal crash-and-burn story from the 2008 mortgage crisis and the economic warning signs he missed. He breaks down the shift from Wall Street to Main Street capitalism, the flaws of financialized markets, and the need to value investments based on real income. He also outlines practical strategies LPs can use to evaluate deals through macro, demographic, and geographic lenses, and advocates for a return to real asset investing and productive capitalism. Russell Gray Founder and Host Based in: Phoenix, Arizona Say hi to them at www.RussellGray.com www.linkedin.com/in/russellwgray/ x.com/RussWGray Visit bestevercrypto.com today to get started and earn up to $2,500 in bonus crypto. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
*Previously aired episode* Pascal Wagner interviews Brandon Cobb, a seasoned land developer and founder of HBG Capital. Brandon breaks down the highly misunderstood world of land development, revealing how value is created before a single house is built. He shares how his team entitles land and leverages national homebuilder partnerships to generate strong returns with mitigated risk. Brandon walks through real-world case studies, outlines the key due diligence steps LPs should take, and explains why the demand for affordable “little-a” housing remains strong despite market volatility. Brandon Cobb Current role: Managing Partner at HBG Capital Based in: Nashville, Tennessee Say hi to them at: https://hbgcapital.net or learnlanddevelopment.com Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Matt Faircloth, John Casmon, and Ash Patel in a year-end roundtable reflecting on the biggest lessons from 2025 across their own portfolios and hundreds of investor interviews. The group digs into why distress has been slower and more “behind the scenes” than expected, how liquidity, discipline, and deal structure mattered more than macro predictions, and why many LPs are now prioritizing cash flow and capital preservation over appreciation. They also debate bridge debt, LP risk assessment, and where opportunities may emerge in 2026—from small-cap multifamily inefficiencies to deeply discounted office assets—while emphasizing accountability, conservative underwriting, and adaptability as the cycle evolves. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Visit bestevercrypto.com today to get started and earn up to $2,500 in bonus crypto. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this powerful episode of The Mike Litton Experience, Mike Litton sits down with Pascal Wagner, entrepreneur, venture capital professional, and passive income strategist, for a deeply personal and insightful conversation about turning loss into legacy. After the passing of his father, Pascal was faced with an enormous responsibility—protecting his mother's financial future. Drawing on his background in venture capital, real estate, and startup investing, Pascal built a diversified cash-flow strategy that now generates over $100,000 per year in passive income—without relying on traditional stock market risk. In this episode, Pascal shares: His journey from Germany to the U.S. and from startup founder to investor How he raised $2M, scaled a real estate tech company, and worked at Techstars Why the traditional “nest egg” retirement model is broken How Limited Partner (LP) investing creates cash flow, diversification, and peace of mind The emotional reality of stepping into the family patriarch role after loss How everyday investors can access private market opportunities responsibly Whether you're navigating a family financial transition, planning for retirement, or seeking alternatives to Wall Street, this episode delivers real-world insight, clarity, and hope. Learn more about Pascal Wagner:Connect with Pascal on LinkedIn or visit PascalWagner.com to explore passive income strategies and private market investing opportunities. If you enjoy meaningful conversations with leaders, entrepreneurs, and changemakers—this episode is for you. Subscribe to The Mike Litton Experience for weekly interviews that educate, inspire, and empower you to build a life of purpose, stability, and impact. Like, comment, and turn on notifications so you never miss an episode! Welcome to The Mike Litton Experience Podcast! Mike is passionate about being a father, a teacher, a Realtor, an investor and a leader! Everyone has a story and our passion is to help them tell it! We never want you to miss an episode, so please be sure to subscribe. Could we ask you for two quick favors? If you like our program, please tell a friend. Wherever you get your podcasts please leave us a rating. It helps us to connect with quality people just like you! Reach out to Mike on Instagram @themikelittonexperience. Thank you for joining us for The Mike Litton Experience! Who you work with matters and we would be honored to interview with you or anyone you know to sell your home! If you have questions, please reach out text or call 760-522-1227. Thank you! #livinginsandiego, #movingtosandiego, #themikelittonexperience, #homesforsaleinsandiego, #mikelitton, #sellahomeinsandiego, #buyahomeinsandiego, #toptipstogetthebestoffer #themikelittonexperience
Pascal Wagner interviews Rod Khleif, a 40-year investor who has owned thousands of units and trained operators responsible for more than 260,000 multifamily doors. Rod breaks down today's confusing multifamily environment, explaining why conservative underwriting, realistic assumptions, and deep operator due diligence matter more than ever. He shares the biggest mistakes GPs are currently making—from aggressive rent growth assumptions to risky debt structures—and outlines the practical questions every LP must ask before wiring money. Rod also highlights where he sees distress, opportunity, and risk heading into the next cycle. Rod KhleifCurrent role: Founder, Lifetime Cashflow Through Real Estate Investing; Multifamily Investor & EducatorBased in: Sarasota, FloridaSay hi to them at: https://rodslinks.com | https://www.youtube.com/@RodKhleif | https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodkhleif/ Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Seit 2001 berichtet das Fachmagazin GamesMarkt über die Spielebranche: Kündigungswellen, Neugründungen, Preisverleihungen, Release-Übersichten und Interviews - all das waren die Themen der Redaktion für die Website und das eigene Printmagazin. In den letzten Jahren aber kam es zu Umwälzungen dieser traditionsreichen Institution: Erst wurde die Berichterstattung komplet auf englisch umgestellt, dann mussten Redakteure das Unternehmen verlassen, Anfang des Jahres dann droht das Aus. Die Berichterstattung von GamesMarkt war in einer sich verändernden Medienwelt nicht mehr profitabel. Dann allerdings kam es zu einer spektakulären Kehrtwende: Der Linguist und langjährige GamesMarkt-Redateur Pascal Wagner, der Ende 2024 das Unternehmen verlassen musste, kaufte mit zwei Mitstreitern den Laden auf. Gemeinsam renovierten sie die Website, richteten ein neues Abo-Modell ein und versprachen sich, all ihre Kräfte in GamesMarkt 2.0 zu investieren, um wieder grüne Zahlen zu schreiben. Dom Schott hat Pascal inmitten dieser aufregenden Zeit zum Gespräch getroffen. Gemeinsam beleuchten sie die Umwälzungen bei GamesMarkt, wie moderner Spielejournalismus aussehen kann und wie das Team versuchen möchte, ein Urgestein der Branche zu erhalten.
Pascal Wagner interviews Soren Godbersen, exploring the evolution of real estate crowdfunding, how platforms vet deals, and why LPs should understand platform incentives before investing. Soren breaks down the differences between aggregator platforms and vertically integrated operators, sharing lessons from his decade at EquityMultiple and his new work at Lightstone Direct. The two discuss LP psychology in today's environment, platform vs. direct-to-operator due diligence, and why asset class selection and fee transparency matter more than ever. It's an inside look at how deals get filtered, what red flags LPs should spot, and how investors can sharpen their decision-making in a confusing market. Soren GodbersenCurrent role: Vice President, Lightstone DirectBased in: New YorkSay hi to them at: https://lightstonedirect.com | https://www.linkedin.com/in/soren-godbersen/ Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Pascal Wagner interviews Bronson Hill, founder of Bronson Equity, about how LPs can invest confidently in today's noisy and divided market. Bronson shares how raising $50M+ across multifamily, oil & gas, and alternative real estate has shaped the way he vets operators, evaluates risk, and structures deals more conservatively after recent market challenges. He explains why understanding your true investment objective—cash flow, tax benefits, or equity growth—is the key to picking the right deal, and why due diligence should start with the market, then the operator, then the deal. Bronson also walks through his shift toward more control as a GP, including his Altadena modular housing redevelopment project after the California wildfires, and why debt funds and royalties are gaining traction with LPs seeking stability and monthly income. Bronson HillCurrent role: Founder & CEO, Bronson EquityBased in: Pasadena, CaliforniaSay hi to them at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bronson.hill.37 | https://www.facebook.com/BronsonEquityLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bronsonhill | https://www.linkedin.com/company/bronson-equity/mycompanyYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc1KYJL8ZjF3GC3Wh5lYNfgInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/bronsondavidhillWebsite: https://bronsonequity.com Start earning passive income today at gsprei.com/bestever Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders' Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner breaks down how the IRS categorizes income into three buckets—active, portfolio, and passive—and why high-income earners often misunderstand how tax write-offs actually work. He explains common investor mistakes, including expecting real estate depreciation to offset W-2 or stock-market gains, and shares the simple rule that changed his entire tax strategy: “you can only offset like with like.” Pascal also walks through exceptions such as oil and gas, real estate professional status, and opportunity zones, along with how wealthy investors intentionally shift income toward passive buckets for long-term tax efficiency. This episode teaches investors to stop chasing IRRs and start choosing deals based on what problem they solve in their tax plan. Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders' Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Evan Polaski, digging into what 18 years across retail and multifamily have taught him about raising capital through multiple market cycles. Evan shares what it was really like trying to raise an institutional fund heading into the 2008 crisis, how the “denominator effect” froze commitments, and why that experience still shapes his view of risk today. He contrasts institutional and retail LP behavior, explains why he's gravitated back to necessity-based retail, and calls out the dangers of marketers-turned-operators who chase AUM instead of disciplined deals. Evan also walks through how he evaluates sponsors as an LP himself, what “conservative underwriting” should actually mean, and the specific questions passive investors need to ask about performance versus the original pro forma. Evan PolaskiCurrent role: Director of Capital Raising, BlackGate Partners Based in: Cincinnati, Ohio Say hi to them at: https://goblackgate.com | LinkedIn Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders' Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner interviews Michael Alberse. Michael walks through his journey from earning $161 a month in high-yield savings interest to building over $6,000 a month in passive income through a “Frankenstein” mix of cold storage, micro private equity, small business loans, covered-call ETFs, mobile home parks, multifamily, and private money lending. He shares both the 9x home-run exit from a cold storage deal and painful lessons from chasing yield in risky rideshare and cupcake business loans, highlighting why he now prioritizes experienced, obsessive operators and better downside protection. Michael also talks about using masterminds and education to level up his due diligence, hiring a CPA, capping his check size per deal, and keeping his Google job so active income can continue to fuel his passive income portfolio and long-term lifestyle freedom goals. Michael AlberseCurrent role: Google Cloud Account Executive and creator of Micro Investing Based in: Atlanta, Georgia. Say hi to them at: https://investingmicro.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/micro.investing/ | i Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders' Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Pascal Wagner reveals his full due diligence process for evaluating private debt and credit funds. Drawing on his experience managing over $150 million as a venture capitalist and investing $3.3 million of his own capital across 23 private deals, Pascal shares the real questions professional investors ask before wiring money. He explains how to identify red flags in fund structures, analyze leverage and default rates, and evaluate manager credibility through a systematic, repeatable vetting process. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's episode of Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner breaks down why hesitation to wire money often comes from a lack of deal flow and how to fix it with a professional-grade sourcing system. He shares lessons from deploying $150 million at Techstars, building a 94-unit co-living portfolio, and creating an 800+ opportunity deal database. Pascal explains how to craft a clear thesis, set filtering criteria, and use forums, platforms, and even social ads to fill your pipeline so your confidence rises with repetition. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's episode of Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner explores the world of private real estate debt funds and what truly defines a “safe” 10% yield. After personally interviewing over 75 fund operators and analyzing 111 offerings, Pascal reveals key differences in structure, leverage, and transparency that separate high-quality funds from risky ones. He explains how fund size, collateral type, and audited financials impact risk, and why stability often matters more than chasing high returns. Pascal also shares lessons from deploying over $3 million into debt funds and how investors can build a diversified, cash-flowing portfolio with confidence. This is a limited time offer, so head over to aspenfunds.us/bestever to download the investor deck—or grab their quick-start guide if you're brand new to oil and gas investing. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's episode of Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Jon Jasniak. Jon shares how he built a multimillion-dollar land business since 2017, completing over 30 subdivisions and selling more than 10,000 acres, often doubling investor capital in months. He explains why land—though overlooked compared to multifamily and storage—can deliver outsized returns through subdividing and seller financing, while also breaking down misconceptions around cash flow, liquidity, and risk. Jon also talks about his $1M+ experiment of buying a Texas town, lessons from defaults and note sales, and what LPs should look for when investing in land operators. Jon JasniakCurrent role: Founder of Jazzland, Land Investor and DeveloperBased in: Midland, TexasSay hi to them at: Instagram | YouTube | http://jonjasniak.com Try Gusto today at gusto.com/CRE , and get three months free when you run your first payroll. This is a limited time offer, so head over to aspenfunds.us/bestever to download the investor deck—or grab their quick-start guide if you're brand new to oil and gas investing. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's episode of Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Peter Sack. They dig into why Chicago Atlantic targets underserved private credit niches, especially state-by-state cannabis lending where limited competition can mean first-lien structures at lower leverage with mid-teens to ~20% returns, plus classic lender protections. Peter explains how regulatory moats, disciplined underwriting, and downside focus beat “sexy” equity stories, and how potential legalization would likely trigger refinancings, prepayment fees, and warrant upside rather than harm. They also compare private funds to public options through Chicago Atlantic's BDC and mortgage REIT tickers, LIEN and REFI, and outline what LPs should evaluate in credit managers from lien position to non-accruals and third-party administration. Peter SackCurrent role: Managing Partner, Chicago AtlanticBased in: Miami, FloridaSay hi to them at: https://www.chicagoatlantic.com/ | LinkedIn | investors@chicagoatlantic.com This is a limited time offer, so head over to aspenfunds.us/bestever to download the investor deck—or grab their quick-start guide if you're brand new to oil and gas investing. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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On this week's episode of Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Judd Dunning. In this primer on triple-net sale-leasebacks, Judd breaks down gross vs. modified-gross vs. NNN/absolute NNN, why operating companies sell their real estate and lease it back, and how tenant credit and location drive risk and return. He compares NNN to self-storage, multifamily, office and retail, then outlines how industrial logistics and on-shoring are shaping today's cap rates, spreads, and refinance outlook. You'll also hear where LPs go wrong (sponsor vetting, re-lease assumptions) and how bonus depreciation can juice after-tax results on industrial deals with meaningful equipment bases. Judd DunningCurrent role: President, DWG Capital PartnersBased in: Los Angeles, CA & Fort Worth, TX Say hi to them at: LinkedIn | DWG Capital Partners Try Gusto today at gusto.com/CRE, and get three months free when you run your first payroll. This is a limited time offer, so head over to aspenfunds.us/bestever to download the investor deck—or grab their quick-start guide if you're brand new to oil and gas investing. Visit investwithsunrise.com to learn more about investment opportunities. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's episode of Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Sean Smith. They dig into the search fund landscape from traditional and self-funded models to independent sponsors, why the silver tsunami and SBA financing make now a compelling moment, and Sean's thesis of backing essential businesses serving attractive end markets. Sean also walks through his four-part diligence system and a 200+ point checklist, how he evaluates terms so LPs are actually protected, and what realistic deal flow looks like when you're only closing on roughly 2 percent of what you review. If you're curious how to be a sharper LP in small business acquisitions without running a company yourself, this one's your roadmap. Sean SmithCurrent role: Managing Partner, Search Fund VenturesBased in: Chicago, IllinoisSay hi to them at: https://www.searchfundventures.co/ | Linkedin This is a limited time offer, so head over to aspenfunds.us/bestever to download the investor deck—or grab their quick-start guide if you're brand new to oil and gas investing. Visit investwithsunrise.com to learn more about investment opportunities. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's episode of Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Amanda Han and Matt MacFarland. They break down the One Big Beautiful Bill for real estate investors, from the return of 100% bonus depreciation and why placed-in-service timing matters to smart ways LPs can plan for depreciation recapture instead of fearing it. Amanda and Matt also hit SALT cap relief, pass-through entity tax elections that can turn state taxes into deductible business expenses, and a niche but powerful new 100% write-off for buildings used directly in manufacturing. You'll hear practical LP due-diligence red flags, how to sync exit timelines with your CPA, and why “strategy stacking” can compound savings across your portfolio. Amanda Han & Matt MacFarlandCurrent role: Managing Director & Co-founders, Keystone CPA. Based in: Fullerton, CaliforniaSay hi to them at: https://www.keystonecpa.com/ | LinkedIn | Instagram This is a limited time offer, so head over to aspenfunds.us/bestever to download the investor deck—or grab their quick-start guide if you're brand new to oil and gas investing. Visit investwithsunrise.com to learn more about investment opportunities. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Pascal Wagner is a former venture capitalist turned real estate investor who has built a $250,000 annual passive income portfolio through over 30 investments. As a VC at Techstars, he deployed $150 million into 300 companies, where he learned how top institutions analyze deals and manage risk. Today, he applies that same institutional approach to passive real estate investing while coaching others to invest with clarity and confidence. Make sure to download our free guide, 7 Questions Every Passive Investor Should Ask, here. Key Takeaways Most passive investors make the mistake of analyzing deals in isolation instead of starting with a clear investment thesis. Institutional investors use a scientific method—macro themes first, then micro criteria, then deal selection. Diversification is essential: Pascal built co-living homes in Atlanta but realized his mom's retirement couldn't rest on one asset class or city. Following institutional or family office investors can provide a safer entry point for LPs. Separate your “cash flow bucket” from your “equity growth bucket” to align investments with goals. Topics From Techstars to Real Estate Built early wealth through co-living rentals before joining Techstars as an investor. Learned institutional-level due diligence by reviewing thousands of deals. After his father's passing, managed his mother's retirement income and shifted focus to reliable passive strategies. How Institutions Invest Define a thesis first, then filter deals that fit. See hundreds of opportunities before investing in a few. Don't chase returns—find inevitable long-term trends and align investments accordingly. Developing Guardrails for LP Investing Criteria like vintage, roof types, and market selection come from experience and costly lessons. Partnering with operators who have already learned those lessons is critical. Institutional investors demand reporting, audits, and controls—retail investors can “follow” their lead. Buckets of Cash Flow vs. Equity Growth Co-living homes and private credit provide stable cash flow. High-risk equities (tech stocks, crypto) are placed in long-term equity growth buckets. Structured his mother's long-term holdings for inheritance tax advantages while using his own portfolio for near-term cash needs.
On this week's episode of Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Fred Hubler. Fred shares why he built a retainer-based advisory model that helps entrepreneurs and high-net-worth families allocate beyond stocks into private credit, real estate and other alternatives, and he explains his 50-10-20-20 portfolio framework for traditional assets, cash, alts and hard assets. He digs into his due-diligence rubric of legal, ethical and moral unfair advantages, plus concrete playbooks like franchise roll-ups, optioning underused retail land for townhouse developments, and partnering with institutional-grade sponsors to protect downside. You'll also hear how to vet operators, get closer to the underlying asset, and set break-even thresholds in volatile areas like oil and gas. Fred HublerCurrent role: Founder and CEO, Creative Capital Wealth Management GroupBased in: Chester Springs, PennsylvaniaSay hi to them at: https://ccwmg.com | mailto:frederickhubler@ccwmg.com | Instagram This is a limited time offer, so head over to aspenfunds.us/bestever to download the investor deck—or grab their quick-start guide if you're brand new to oil and gas investing. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Chris Reece about lending against cannabis-licensed real estate and why he underwrites properties to an alternative (non-cannabis) use to de-risk senior mortgages on stabilized assets. They dig into MJ REIT's evergreen, 506(c) structure—monthly subscriptions/redemptions, no lockup, a $25k minimum—and its goal of double-digit annualized distributions (11.27% net since inception) paid monthly. Chris contrasts construction lending vs. stabilized assets, explains how federal illegality (Schedule I/280E, SAFE Banking stalls) shapes the opportunity, and why today's “gray zone” may persist for several years even as state markets expand. The conversation closes with how LPs should diligence cannabis debt funds: team/IC depth, conservative LTVs, consistency through cycles, and alignment on risk. Chris Reeze Current role: Founder & CEO at MJ REIT Based in: Greater Philadelphia Are Say hi to them at: mj-reit.com, LinkedIn Visit investwithsunrise.com to learn more about investment opportunities. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Chris Seveney. Chris breaks down how his firm buys non‑performing residential mortgage notes, works with borrowers to re‑age loans, and occasionally forecloses or sells re‑performing paper. He walks through the end‑to‑end diligence (the “three P's”: person, property, predicament), state‑by‑state legal nuances, vendor management, and how experience refines the checklist. He also covers fund structure—Reg A access for non‑accredited investors, monthly income targets, four‑year lockup, and bonus‑share incentives—plus real‑world wins, losses, and risk controls. Guest Info Current role: Managing Partner, Seveney Investments (7E) Based in: Washington, DC Say hi to them at: 7einvestments.com | LinkedIn Visit investwithsunrise.com to learn more about investment opportunities. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Ryan Duff, a former mortgage broker who spent 14 years underwriting loans before transitioning into LP investing. Ryan shares how his front-row seat in the lending world gave him a unique edge in identifying quality sponsors and structuring successful deals. He discusses the three core pillars of underwriting—borrower credit, asset performance, and market fundamentals—and why sponsor quality trumps everything in investment decisions. Ryan also breaks down how lending standards have tightened post-2021, what LPs should really be asking for in due diligence (hint: request the REO schedule), and how market dislocation is creating powerful opportunities for plugged-in investors. Ryan Duff Current Role: Founder at Seaport Capital Advisors, capital advisor and LP investor Based in: East Coast (primarily invests in Southeast and Midwest markets) Say hi to them at: LinkedIn Visit investwithsunrise.com to learn more about investment opportunities. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Mauricio Rauld, a premier syndication attorney and founder of Platinum Legal Consulting. Mauricio breaks down the current multifamily debt crisis, explaining how bridge loans, floating interest rates, and lender extensions have left many LPs unknowingly wiped out. He emphasizes the critical importance of understanding debt structures, risk-adjusted returns, and scrutinizing assumptions in underwriting. They also dive into the evolving world of fund-to-fund models, the syndicator blind spot, and how LPs can strengthen their due diligence using tools like ChatGPT and legal review. Mauricio Rauld Current Role: Founder of Platinum Legal Consulting, creator of the Elite Syndicator Program Based in: Miami, Florida Say hi to them at: LinkedIn YouTube Instagram Visit investwithsunrise.com to learn more about investment opportunities. Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Tyler Krengle, Head of Asset Management at Rockfish Capital. Tyler walks us through his journey from helping grow the third-party management arm of Banyan Equity to building Rockfish's operations alongside a German sponsor. He dives deep into the dynamics of third-party vs. vertically integrated property management, the risks of misaligned incentives in management contracts, and the red flags LPs should watch for when evaluating deals. Tyler emphasizes the importance of early involvement from property management in underwriting, the nuances of construction oversight, and the often overlooked human elements that make operators truly successful. Tyler Krengle Current Role: Head of Asset Management at Rockfish Capital Based in: Texas Say hi to them at: LinkedIn - Tyler Krengle | https://pacificcapitalholdings.com/ Visit investwithsunrise.com to learn more about investment opportunities. Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Litan Yahav, co-founder and CEO of Vyzer, about his journey from the diamond industry to becoming a seasoned passive investor. Litan shares how a windfall from a company exit led him to explore real estate syndications, eventually creating his own tracking platform to manage complex alternative investments. They discuss the nuances of evaluating GPs, the challenges of managing private investments, and how AI is being leveraged to increase transparency in opaque private markets. Litan also dives into common pitfalls new LPs face, the difference between return metrics, and how better tech and smarter questions can lead to better deals. Litan Yahav Current Role: Co-founder of Vyzer (a platform for managing passive investments) Say hi to them at: https://www.vyzer.co | https://www.linkedin.com/in/litanyahav/ Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Chris Miles, founder of Money Ripples and a former financial advisor who now teaches financial freedom through alternative investing and infinite banking. Chris shares his journey from traditional advisor to financially independent investor—twice—after losing it all in the 2008 crash. He discusses his transition from active real estate to LP investing, his diversification across asset classes like oil and gas, raw land, and multifamily, and why he values control, liquidity, and low liability as a passive investor. The episode also dives into Chris's unique take on infinite banking, including how he optimizes whole life insurance policies for tax-free returns and cash flow flexibility. Chris Miles Current Role: Founder of Money Ripples Based in: Utah Say hi to them at: moneyripples.com, or on social @moneyripples Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of Unlimited Capital, Richard McGirr interviews Pascal Wagner, a capital allocator and educator who shares his journey from managing his family's wealth to becoming a guide for W-2 professionals seeking passive income through alternative investments. Pascal discusses the evolution of his investment strategy, from room-by-room single-family rentals to building diversified income streams through vetted funds. The conversation dives into investor psychology, the true appeal of cash flow vs. equity growth, and how fund-of-funds managers can position themselves as trusted advisors by speaking directly to a well-defined avatar. Pascal also offers tactical insights into LinkedIn marketing, deal flow generation, and building community through storytelling. Pascal Wagner Current role: Founder of Grow Your Cashflow, fund manager, and educator for passive investors Based in: Miami, Florida Say hi to them at: Website: growyourcashflow.io Free Starter Kit: passiveinvestingstarterkit.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/pascalwagner YouTube: @pascalwagner Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Marc Kuhn, founder of MAK Construction, MAK Capital. Marc shares how he leveraged personal branding and social media to raise capital and scale his businesses in the niche of luxury self-storage. He explains what makes this asset class distinct—from its climate-controlled, premium features to its appeal for small business owners and high-end tenants. Marc also outlines how he reverse-engineers his developments based on feedback from institutional buyers, his LP communication process, and why transparency and strong operator-investor fit are crucial. Marc Kuhn Current Role: Founder of MAC Construction and MAK Capital Based in: North Dakota Say hi to them at: LinkedIn or www.makcapitalgf.com Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Brandon Cobb, a seasoned land developer and founder of HBG Capital. Brandon breaks down the highly misunderstood world of land development, revealing how value is created before a single house is built. He shares how his team entitles land and leverages national homebuilder partnerships to generate strong returns with mitigated risk. Brandon walks through real-world case studies, outlines the key due diligence steps LPs should take, and explains why the demand for affordable “little-a” housing remains strong despite market volatility. Brandon Cobb Current role: Managing Partner at HBG Capital Based in: Nashville, Tennessee Say hi to them at: https://hbgcapital.net or learnlanddevelopment.com Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Kevin Bupp, a seasoned investor and founder of Sunrise Capital Investors. Known for his success with mobile home parks, Kevin dives into the niche world of parking garage investments—an overlooked asset class with strong cash flow, low maintenance, and high redevelopment potential. He shares his origin story from bartending to building a $400M+ real estate portfolio, discusses how his firm targets value-add parking assets in high-demand urban markets, and explains how they balance risk-adjusted returns across their fund structure by blending cash-flowing parking deals with value-add mobile home parks. Kevin also addresses how autonomous vehicles may impact the future of parking, and why land value and long-term optionality are central to his investment thesis. Kevin Bupp Current role: Founder & CEO of Sunrise Capital Investors Based in: Tampa Bay, Florida Say hi to them at: investwithsunrise.com or connect on LinkedIn/Instagram (@KevinBupp) Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Matt Picheny, a Tony award-winning Broadway producer turned seasoned multifamily GP with over 16 GP deals and 28 as an LP. Matt shares how his path from acting and digital marketing led to real estate success, including a pivotal first deal where he quadrupled his investment. They dive deep into lessons learned from early LP mistakes, why conservative underwriting (especially around cap rates) is critical, and how today's market might be ideal for investing if you have the stomach for it. Matt also discusses the values behind his coaching program, his value-add investment philosophy, and how LPs can vet operators more effectively. Matt Picheny Current role: Multifamily GP, LP, Coach, and Author of Backstage Guide to Real Estate Based in: New York City Say hi to them at: picheny.com – includes newsletter, free resources, coaching info, and social links Go to https://zbiotics.com/BESTEVER and use BESTEVER at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Jimmy Atkinson, founder of OpportunityZones.com and host of the Opportunity Zones Podcast. Jimmy breaks down how Opportunity Zones work—from their 2017 creation in the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to the powerful tax incentives they offer investors. He shares how these zones have catalyzed billions in investment across the country, not just in multifamily but also in startups, industrial real estate, and community-focused developments. They also explore the future of the program, including what Opportunity Zones 2.0 might look like, and Jimmy offers tips for LPs considering OZ investments for the first time. Jimmy Atkinson Current role: Founder of OpportunityZones.com and host of the Opportunity Zones Podcast Based in: Dallas, Texas Say hi to them at: https://opportunityzones.com Get 60% off the Magic Mind offer with our link and code https://magicmind.com/bestevermf & BESTEVER60 #magicmind #mentalwealth #mentalperformance Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this episode of the Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Paul Moore, founder of Wellings Capital, to unpack one of the most misunderstood concepts in real estate investing: the capital stack. They dive deep into the distinctions between common equity, preferred equity, and mezzanine debt—breaking down how each affects risk, return, and control. Paul shares why his firm has shifted from common to preferred equity over the last five years and explains how LPs can benefit from this approach—especially in today's volatile lending environment. He also introduces a new hybrid strategy that balances preferred protections with common equity upside, and closes with key tips on how LPs can avoid fraud and conduct meaningful due diligence. Paul Moore Current role: Founder & Managing Partner, Wellings Capital Based in: Blue Ridge Mountains, Virginia Say hi to them at: https://wellingscapital.com Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Post your job for free at https://www.linkedin.com/BRE. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It's free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices