Podcasts about Highbrow

Is Donald Trump the chicken or the egg? On the cusp of his second administration, the hosts of dissect whether the president-elect is a cause or symptom of trends in popular culture.Plus, Michelle brings all the nostalgia to the Christmas party.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Recommended in this episode:“The Shape of Water” directed by Guillermo del Toro“Yellowstone” created by Taylor Sheridan and John Linson“White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism” by Robin DiAngelo‘Erasure” by Percival Everett“American Fiction” directed by Cord Jefferson‘The Elementary Particles” by Michel Houellebecq“The Plot Against America” by Philip Roth“It Can't Happen Here” by Sinclair Lewis“Reagan: His Life and Legend” by Max BootThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Guess who's bizzack! It's ya girls :) Have we been gone for far too long? Yes. Did we record this episode while the Olympics were still on? ...that's none of your business. But all that matters is we are so back! And since we've missed y'all so much, we wanted to review a movie that has been widely loved by critics and audiences alike- "Tyler Perry's Divorce in the Black." In this *cinematic masterpiece*, Ava and Dallas are in a tumultuous marriage which abruptly comes to an end when the already-checked out Dallas announces he wants a divorce. Though the divorce was his idea, Dallas is also somehow FURIOUS about it(???) and makes Ava's life a living hell, along with the lives of all of her loved ones. While marketed as a Thriller/Drama, "Divorce in the Black" just might be the funniest movie of 2024. "Divorce in the Black" is available to stream on Amazon Prime.  

The Real Head of Bravo Programming who developed and greenlit the Real Housewives franchise stops by the Bravo Breakdowns podcast to give a guest lecture on reality TV!The funny, insightful, Peabody winning and overall insanely accomplished Lauren Zalaznick (former Executive VP of NBCUniversal from 2001-2014) tells Lauren and Michele the origin story of how she and her team built Bravo into the network we know today.But before that, Lauren and Michele are breaking down part 1 of Season 7 of Real Housewives of Orange County- that's right, we're in the Golden Years of OC. It's the horrifying introduction of Vicki's boyfriend Brooks who has no money, no job, no teeth, no car, but has a lot of weird riddles about love! We finally meet the glamorous, rich snob Heather Dubrow and see her go head-to-head with wannabe snob Alexis Bellino! And Tamra has her best season ever by pairing up with Gretchen to make Vicki's head explode. )And for true scholars, please buy Lauren Zalaznick's new book, “Letters from the Corporation of Brown University: Lives of Usefulness and Reputation 1764-2023” on Amazon (you can Google all the great reviews it's getting, and leave one of your own reviews on Amazon if you purchase and enjoy it!) For even more LZ updates, subscribe to her newsletter “The LZ Sunday Paper”, fun updates and important world news and articles of the week- for women, by a woman- and follow her on IG.Lauren Zalazncik Social Media:@lzsundaypaperBravo Breakdowns Social Media:IG : @bravo_breakdownsTikTok : @bravo_breakdownsEmail: bravo_breakdowns@gmail.comTimestamps : Interview 45: 55

In hour two, Mike & Jason talk some baseball and movies with MLB Network & Cinephile Podcast's Adnan Virk (1:08), plus they chat with The Athletic NHL's James Mirtle (24:35) about if the Leafs might underachieve this season. This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

In this episode, we sit down with Michael Herwitz, the visionary director of Broadway's JOB. Join us as we delve into Michael's fascinating journey from child actor to director, uncover the creative process behind the success of JOB, and explore the themes that resonate with audiences across generations. Michael shares insights on the role of lighting and staging, the challenges of directing a two-person scene, and the open-ended interpretation of the play's conclusion. Discover how JOB bridges generational divides and engages audiences in meaningful conversations.  Follow and connect with all things @HalfHourPodcast on Instagram, and YouTube. Share your thoughts with us on JOB on our podcast cover post on Instagram. MICHAEL HERWITZ is a director, producer, and dramaturg in New York City. He is often found huddled around a new script in development or dreaming up a revival of a favorite musical. His directing work collides fantasy with the mundane, and is often representative of queer and/or Jewish communities. He creates where generosity of spirt and pursuit of excellence go hand-in-hand. Michael is a ferocious advocate for the fourth wall and believes every second act deserves a dream ballet. In Fall 2023, Michael made his directorial Off-Broadway debut with JOB by Max Wolf Friedlich. The twice-extended, sold-out run was a New York Times Critics Pick and hallmarked as "Highbrow and Brilliant" in New York Magazine's Approval Matrix. The commerical transfer at the Connelly Theater in 2024 recouped its investment in five weeks.   Born and raised outside New York City, Michael began his career as a child actor on Broadway. While stage managing his middle school musicals, he developed a deep passion for being behind the scenes. Michael has developed and staged new plays and musicals at HERE, Ensemble Studio Theater, JACK, SoHo Playhouse, Williamstown Theater Festival, IRT Theater, Lifeworld, Martha's Vineyard Playhouse, and the Pasadena Playhouse. As an Assistant, Michael has supported the work of Terry Kinney, Moritz von Stuelpnagel, Leigh Silverman, Jessie Nelson, and Joe Brancato.  In addition to his directing work, Michael has worked as a General Manager and Company Manager Off-Broadway and on tour. He is the Co-Founder of G45 Productions, an artistic collective dedicated to new plays. His education spans Fiorello H. LaGuardia High School of Music and Art and Performing Arts to Northwestern University to the Williamstown Theatre Festival to watching countless movie musicals as a kid. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Demi reflects on a broken friendship; a review of “Fight Night” on Peacock; “Bel Air” and “Reasonable Doubt are almost back; Trump calls VPKH “a b—-"... allegedly ABOUT ME: http://www.demetrialucas.com/about/ STAY CONNECTED:  IG: demetriallucas Twitter: demetriallucas FB: demetriallucas YouTube: demetriallucas You gotta check out the new softside Luggage from Away. Head on over to https://awaytravel.com/ratchet. Get 20% OFF @honeylove by going to https://honeylove.com/RATCHET! #honeylovepod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Demi reflects on a broken friendship; a review of “Fight Night” on Peacock; “Bel Air” and “Reasonable Doubt are almost back; Trump calls VPKH “a b—-"... allegedlyABOUT ME:http://www.demetrialucas.com/about/STAY CONNECTED: IG: demetriallucasTwitter: demetriallucasFB: demetriallucasYouTube: demetriallucasYou gotta check out the new softside Luggage from Away. Head on over to https://awaytravel.com/ratchet. Get 20% OFF @honeylove by going to https://honeylove.com/RATCHET! #honeylovepod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Listen to Jay and Kay discuss today's trending stories.President Joe Biden was either pushed out or he stepped aside, then endorsed Kamala Harris. She made history as the first Black and Asian woman to lead a major political party. Is the presidency next? Jay and Kay chime in with their opinionated comments.Add Irv Gotti to the list of alleged sexual assaulters. A female accuser filed a lawsuit in Miami with claims of forcible sexual acts. All of which the former music exec denies. Jay and Kay have a conversation on how this may impact Gotti and his legacy.Tyler Perry is sparking backlash for calling his critics ‘Highbrow', a racial term used to describe Black people of a certain social class. Was his message lost in his defense of his films and his fans? Jay and Kay discuss if Perry is in or out of bounds.According to multiple reports, sports talk personality Skip Bayless is leaving ‘Undisputed', after an 8-year run. Is this the last we'll see of Bayless? Jay and Kay discuss what the future may hold for Bayless. What Do You Say Jay and Kay: A listener asks Jay and Kay to give their thoughts on the not so new ‘Passport Bro' phenomenon. Some woman may not like the their answer since they place rise in activity squarely at their feet.

In this episode of Tea Time, we are joined by our extra special honorary co-host Sydney and we are discussing all the latest tea! We are discussing Tyler Perry's recent comments on his critics, Trump interview with NABJ conference, K.Michelle's country music record deal and so much more. Grab your tea cups and let's start sipping!

Hey fam! Welcome back to Virgo Season! Ryan and Joyhdae are diving into the hottest topics in pop culture, politics, and entertainment. Grab your snacks, settle in, and let's get into it! Tyler Perry's "Divorce in the Black" Review & Highbrow Negros Last week, we broke down Tyler Perry's latest film, "Divorce in the Black," and this week we discuss his controversial response to critics, who he labeled "highbrow negroes." Get our hilarious take on the movie's most outrageous moments and Perry's unique creative choices. Kiki Palmer's New Ventures: D.Va Girl Group & Password Game Show Kiki Palmer is dominating the scene! From her new girl group DivaGurl to hosting the "Password" game show with Jimmy Fallon, we're here for all of it. Ryan shares his game show obsession, while Joyhdae spills the tea on Kiki's nostalgic social media content. Would I Be the Asshole? Asking for a Refund from a Friend Should you ask a friend for a refund when their business venture goes wrong? We dive into a listener's dilemma, offering candid advice and sharing our own experiences. It's a must-watch for anyone navigating tricky friendship dynamics and money matters. Police Misconduct & The Tragic Death of Sonia Massey A serious discussion on the tragic case of Sonia Massey, a Black woman killed by police in her home. We explore the urgent need for police reform and share our thoughts on this devastating incident. Young Martin Prequel: Worth Watching? Is a "Young Martin" prequel series a good idea? We debate whether a dramatic retelling can do justice to the comedic legacy of the original "Martin." Join us as we discuss the potential challenges and our hopes for this reboot. Supacell Review: Must-Watch Black Superhero Series We're buzzing about "Supercell," the new superhero series set in South London. With its diverse cast and compelling themes, it's a must-watch. Whether you're a superhero fan or just love great TV, don't miss our review! Kamala Harris for President: The Big Switcheroo In a political twist and a testament to Joyhdae's oracle status, Joe Biden steps down from the presidential race and endorses Kamala Harris. We discuss the implications, reactions from both parties, and speculate on potential VP picks. It's a lively discussion on the future of U.S. politics. 20 Lil Girls vs Lil RT: Our Thoughts We have some thoughts on the controversial YouTube featuring young rapper Lil RT and a group of young girls. We question the ethics and entertainment value of involving children in such shows. Tune in for our take on this troubling trend. Subscribe, Like, and Share! Don't miss any of the action! Hit the subscribe button, like our videos, and share your thoughts in the comments. Follow us on social media, slide into our DMs, and join the conversation. We love hearing from you. Peace out, and see you next week! ✌

Mark leads John and the audience on a discussion of the seminal sci-fi novel "A Canticle for Liebowitz" and the questions it raises about cycles of history, Catholicism, and the role of the state in it all. Highbrow stuff guys! Jump in!

We debrief this year's Jolobookaflod, a trip to Tasmania, and Jason premieres his new Golden Boy theme song (FINALLY)Find our Patreon page HERE.Join the How 'Bout This Discord server to be part of the conversation.Spark Podcast Network.Executive Produced by Jason Geary, Karl McConnell and Rik Brown.Produced and Edited by Jason Geary.Music by THE Robbie Ellis. Check him out on Spotify here.  ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

This Week's Topics: Major cyber criminal taken down Google search API documents leaked Former enemies unite: Atari acquires Intellivision ICQ shuts down after 28 years ... Guests: Jeff Gamet, Patrice Brend'amour, Ian […]

This Week's Topics: Major cyber criminal taken down Google search API documents leaked Former enemies unite: Atari acquires Intellivision ICQ shuts down after 28 years ... Guests: Jeff Gamet, Patrice Brend'amour, Ian […]

Ryan McCarl is a founding partner at Rushing McCarl LLP and author of Elegant Legal Writing. I was intrigued by the practicality and the eclectic range of influences Ryan draws on for this latest contribution to the pantheon of legal writing books. Ryan pulls ideas from disciplines like graphic design and marketing and from authors in nonfiction and fiction alike. The result is clear guidance on how to write to be helpful, enjoyable, and original.

In this compelling episode of Kliq This, titled "The CM Punk Tussle," Kevin Nash and Sean Oliver offer a critical analysis of CM Punk's altercation at AEW. They scrutinize AEW's decision to air the incident, arguing it was a poor choice that did not deliver the expected impact and debating its implications on AEW's image and reputation. Nash and Oliver express their dismay over how the event was presented as a major exclusive, yet failed to meet the hype, reflecting on the broader effects such missteps could have on viewer trust and promotion strategies. The hosts also delve into the handling of the incident by AEW management, discussing the long-term effects such controversial decisions can have on a wrestling promotion's relationship with its audience and wrestlers. They bring their straightforward and often humorous commentary style to dissect how the situation could have been managed better, and what it says about the current state of wrestling promotions. Tune in to this episode of Kliq This for a deep dive into the CM Punk tussle at AEW, where Kevin Nash and Sean Oliver pull no punches in their detailed discussion of one of wrestling's most controversial moments. Mando-Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo KLIQ at ShopMando.com! #mandopod Rocket Money-Stop throwing your money away. Cancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way – by going to RocketMoney.com/nash. Get Blitzed-Save 15% off at Get-Blitzed.com by entering the code KLIQ at checkout. 00:00 PROBLEMATIC? 02:52 John Wayne Gacy 03:14 OJ Simpson 06:49 The Haunting 09:15 Jack Perry vs CM Punk backstage fight 18:26 Can only sell out in London 20:11 WHY this week? 21:49 Lisa Wolfe RENTED Tuxedos 24:06 Will Osprey's GRIND 28:52 LA Knight and AJ had a great match and AJ lost on the only BFT delivered 30:07 WHY Cody Rhodes didn't blade 32:01 Charles Robinson 33:06 I feel more wrestlers need to take his advice on psychology. 34:42 Dumb Voters 40:57 Kliq F'N This 42:13 unrealistic strikes 46:14 BREAK MANDO 49:32 KTTV.com 51:32 RIPLEY 52:13 TAKER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AUSTIN 59:11 Wives of wrestling fans 01:00:31 Our audience is HIGH BROW 01:05:54 Bad Boy Bubby 01:12:06 Nash's Age Spots 01:17:13 BREAK ROCKET MONEY 01:19:09 WHERE is the PHOTO? 01:20:21 Glen Goza Blockbuster opening at Cotton Bowl 01:22:46 FLORIDA MAN or JERSEY GUY DISNEY EDITION 01:25:13 “I Go to the strip club for the Steak” 01:30:00 BREAK Get Blitzed 01:32:36 Was Nash Different tonight? 01:37:42 new movie Civil War? 01:39:32 any wrestler you wouldn't wanna get in a shoot fight with during your career? 01:41:42 Did anyone not take a joke? 01:44:13 Chevy Lumina with Stone Cold 01:45:24 Detroit Sign 01:47:39 Wrestler Handshakes 01:51:02 Jen's Retirement 01:51:52 Yuba County 5 01:53:10 Nash Pees again 01:55:27 There is no place Nash can go where he won't get noticed 01:56:53 the invention of A NEgative blood 01:58:53 OUTRO Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ype was naar Londen en Botte was aan het verhuizen. Over Marina Abramović zijn ze het niet zo eens. Verder: jukebox musicals, Dancing Star van Pet Shop Boys, kokend waterkranen, radslag naast het bed en goeie kunst of de pont naar Noord. Veel plezier met de aflevering!Wil je de Eeuw een halve dag eerder, toegang tot exclusieve Vrienden-afleveringen, en wil je ons steunen? Word dan Vriend van de Show!ShownotesPet Shop Boys - Dancing Star YouTubeEeuw over Hotspot van vier jaar geledenMarina Abramović in het Stedelijk Museum AmsterdamZie het privacybeleid op https://art19.com/privacy en de privacyverklaring van Californië op https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver discuss niche dating apps, taking your kids to concerts and the perfect potato for roasting.This episode contains strong language and adult themes.Credits:Producer: Matt Thomas Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan HaskinsMiss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

The Oscars are this Sunday, March 10 and Aditi and Aidan sit down to discuss three of the Best Picture nominees: the Holdovers, Poor Things, and Oppenheimer. This episode, they explore the question of “What makes something Oscar-worthy?” and examine the role of the Academy in determining a film's merit. Follow along as they exchange thoughts on the dichotomy between highbrow and lowbrow art, as well as the culture of shaming present in art criticism.  __ Hosted by: Aditi Misra & Aidan Taylor Producer: Shei Yu | Editorial Review & Executive Producer: Saadia Khan I Sound Designer & Editor: Steve Martin I Immigrantly Theme Music: Simon Hutchinson | Other Music: Epidemic Sound | Cover art design: Josephine Chai Please share the love and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify to help more people find us!  If you want to share your thoughts about this or other episodes, reach out at banterly@immigrantlypod.com Banterly is an Immigrantly Media Production. Episodes are released weekly every Wednesday. For advertising inquiries, you can contact us at info@immigrantlypod.com

SF folks: join us at the AI Engineer Foundation's Emergency Hackathon tomorrow and consider the Newton if you'd like to cowork in the heart of the Cerebral Arena.Our community page is up to date as usual!~800,000 developers watched OpenAI Dev Day, ~8,000 of whom listened along live on our ThursdAI x Latent Space, and ~800 of whom got tickets to attend in person:OpenAI's first developer conference easily surpassed most people's lowballed expectations - they simply did everything short of announcing GPT-5, including:* ChatGPT (the consumer facing product)* GPT4 Turbo already in ChatGPT (running faster, with an April 2023 cutoff), all noticed by users weeks before the conference* Model picker eliminated, God Model chooses for you* GPTs - “tailored version of ChatGPT for a specific purpose” - stopping short of “Agents”. With custom instructions, expanded knowledge, and actions, and an intuitive no-code GPT Builder UI (we tried all these on our livestream yesterday and found some issues, but also were able to ship interesting GPTs very quickly) and a GPT store with revenue sharing (an important criticism we focused on in our episode on ChatGPT Plugins)* API (the developer facing product)* APIs for Dall-E 3, GPT4 Vision, Code Interpreter (RIP Advanced Data Analysis), GPT4 Finetuning and (surprise!) Text to Speech* many thought each of these would take much longer to arrive* usable in curl and in playground* BYO Interpreter + Async Agents?* Assistant API: stateful API backing “GPTs” like apps, with support for calling multiple tools in parallel, persistent Threads (storing message history, unlimited context window with some asterisks), and uploading/accessing Files (with a possibly-too-simple RAG algorithm, and expensive pricing)* Whisper 3 announced and open sourced (HuggingFace recap)* Price drops for a bunch of things!* Misc: Custom Models for big spending ($2-3m) customers, Copyright Shield, SatyaThe progress here feels fast, but it is mostly (incredible) last-mile execution on model capabilities that we already knew to exist. On reflection it is important to understand that the one guiding principle of OpenAI, even more than being Open (we address that in part 2 of today's pod), is that slow takeoff of AGI is the best scenario for humanity, and that this is what slow takeoff looks like:When introducing GPTs, Sam was careful to assert that “gradual iterative deployment is the best way to address the safety challenges with AI”:This is why, in fact, GPTs and Assistants are intentionally underpowered, and it is a useful exercise to consider what else OpenAI continues to consider dangerous (for example, many people consider a while(true) loop a core driver of an agent, which GPTs conspicuously lack, though Lilian Weng of OpenAI does not).We convened the crew to deliver the best recap of OpenAI Dev Day in Latent Space pod style, with a 1hr deep dive with the Functions pod crew from 5 months ago, and then another hour with past and future guests live from the venue itself, discussing various elements of how these updates affect their thinking and startups. Enjoy!Show Notes* swyx live thread (see pinned messages in Twitter Space for extra links from community)* Newton AI Coworking Interest Form in the heart of the Cerebral ArenaTimestamps* [00:00:00] Introduction* [00:01:59] Part I: Latent Space Pod Recap* [00:06:16] GPT4 Turbo and Assistant API* [00:13:45] JSON mode* [00:15:39] Plugins vs GPT Actions* [00:16:48] What is a "GPT"?* [00:21:02] Criticism: the God Model* [00:22:48] Criticism: ChatGPT changes* [00:25:59] "GPTs" is a genius marketing move* [00:26:59] RIP Advanced Data Analysis* [00:28:50] GPT Creator as AI Prompt Engineer* [00:31:16] Zapier and Prompt Injection* [00:34:09] Copyright Shield* [00:38:03] Sharable GPTs solve the API distribution issue* [00:39:07] Voice* [00:44:59] Vision* [00:49:48] In person experience* [00:55:11] Part II: Spot Interviews* [00:56:05] Jim Fan (Nvidia - High Level Takeaways)* [01:05:35] Raza Habib (Humanloop) - Foundation Model Ops* [01:13:59] Surya Dantuluri (Stealth) - RIP Plugins* [01:21:20] Reid Robinson (Zapier) - AI Actions for GPTs* [01:31:19] Div Garg (MultiOn) - GPT4V for Agents* [01:37:15] Louis Knight-Webb (Bloop.ai) - AI Code Search* [01:49:21] Shreya Rajpal (Guardrails.ai) - on Hallucinations* [01:59:51] Alex Volkov (Weights & Biases, ThursdAI) - "Keeping AI Open"* [02:10:26] Rahul Sonwalkar (Julius AI) - Advice for FoundersTranscript[00:00:00] Introduction[00:00:00] swyx: Hey everyone, this is Swyx coming at you live from the Newton, which is in the heart of the Cerebral Arena. It is a new AI co working space that I and a couple of friends are working out of. There are hot desks available if you're interested, just check the show notes. But otherwise, obviously, it's been 24 hours since the opening of Dev Day, a lot of hot reactions and longstanding tradition, one of the longest traditions we've had.[00:00:29] And the latent space pod is to convene emergency sessions and record the live thoughts of developers and founders going through and processing in real time. I think a lot of the roles of podcasts isn't as perfect information delivery channels, but really as an audio and oral history of what's going on as it happens, while it happens.[00:00:49] So this one's a little unusual. Previously, we only just gathered on Twitter Spaces, and then just had a bunch of people. The last one was the Code Interpreter one with 22, 000 people showed up. But this one is a little bit more complicated because there's an in person element and then a online element.[00:01:06] So this is a two part episode. The first part is a recorded session between our latent space people and Simon Willison and Alex Volkoff from the Thursday iPod, just kind of recapping the day. But then also, as the second hour, I managed to get a bunch of interviews with previous guests on the pod who we're still friends with and some new people that we haven't yet had on the pod.[00:01:28] But I wanted to just get their quick reactions because most of you have known and loved Jim Fan and Div Garg and a bunch of other folks that we interviewed. So I just want to, I'm excited to introduce To you the broader scope of what it's like to be at OpenAI Dev Day in person bring you the audio experience as well as give you some of the thoughts that developers are having as they process the announcements from OpenAI.[00:01:51] So first off, we have the Mainspace Pod recap. One hour of open I dev day.[00:01:59] Part I: Latent Space Pod Recap[00:01:59] Alessio: Hey. Welcome to the Latents Based Podcast an emergency edition after OpenAI Dev Day. This is Alessio, partner and CTO of Residence at Decibel Partners, and as usual, I'm joined by Swyx, founder of SmallAI. Hey,[00:02:12] swyx: and today we have two special guests with us covering all the latest and greatest.[00:02:17] We, we, we love to get our band together and recap things, especially when they're big. And it seems like that every three months we have to do this. So Alex, welcome. From Thursday AI we've been collaborating a lot on the Twitter spaces and welcome Simon from many, many things, but also I think you're the first person to not, not make four appearances on our pod.[00:02:37] Oh, wow. I feel privileged. So welcome. Yeah, I think we're all there yesterday. How... Do we feel like, what do you want to kick off with? Maybe Simon, you want to, you want to take first and then Alex. Sure. Yeah. I mean,[00:02:47] Simon Willison: yesterday was quite exhausting, quite frankly. I feel like it's going to take us as a community several months just to completely absorb all of the stuff that they dropped on us in one giant.[00:02:57] Giant batch. It's particularly impressive considering they launched a ton of features, what, three or four weeks ago? ChatGPT voice and the combined mode and all of that kind of thing. And then they followed up with everything from yesterday. That said, now that I've started digging into the stuff that they released yesterday, some of it is clearly in need of a bit more polish.[00:03:15] You know, the the, the reality of what they look, what they released is I'd say about 80 percent of, of what it looks like it was yesterday, which is still impressive. You know, don't get me wrong. This is an amazing batch of stuff, but there are definitely problems and sharp edges that we need to file off.[00:03:29] And there are things that we still need to figure out before we can take advantage of all of this.[00:03:33] swyx: Yeah, agreed, agreed. And we can go into those, those sharp edges in a bit. I just want to pop over to Alex. What are your thoughts?[00:03:39] Alex Volkov: So, interestingly, even folks at OpenAI, there's like several booths and help desks so you can go in and ask people, like, actual changes and people, like, they could follow up with, like, the right people in OpenAI and, like, answer you back, etc.[00:03:52] Even some of them didn't know about all the changes. So I went to the voice and audio booth. And I asked them about, like, hey, is Whisper 3 that was announced by Sam Altman on stage just, like, briefly, will that be open source? Because I'm, you know, I love using Whisper. And they're like, oh, did we open source?[00:04:06] Did we talk about Whisper 3? Like, some of them didn't even know what they were releasing. But overall, I felt it was a very tightly run event. Like, I was really impressed. Shawn, we were sitting in the audience, and you, like, pointed at the clock to me when they finished. They finished, like, on... And this was after like doing some extra stuff.[00:04:24] Very, very impressive for a first event. Like I was absolutely like, Good job.[00:04:30] swyx: Yeah, apparently it was their first keynote and someone, I think, was it you that told me that this is what happens if you have A president of Y Combinator do a proper keynote you know, having seen many, many, many presentations by other startups this is sort of the sort of master stroke.[00:04:46] Yeah, Alessio, I think you were watching remotely. Yeah, we were at the Newton. Yeah, the Newton.[00:04:52] Alessio: Yeah, I think we had 60 people here at the watch party, so it was quite a big crowd. Mixed reaction from different... Founders and people, depending on what was being announced on the page. But I think everybody walked away kind of really happy with a new layer of interfaces they can use.[00:05:11] I think, to me, the biggest takeaway was like and I was talking with Mike Conover, another friend of the podcast, about this is they're kind of staying in the single threaded, like, synchronous use cases lane, you know? Like, the GPDs announcement are all like... Still, chatbase, one on one synchronous things.[00:05:28] I was expecting, maybe, something about async things, like background running agents, things like that. But it's interesting to see there was nothing of that, so. I think if you're a founder in that space, you're, you're quite excited. You know, they seem to have picked a product lane, at least for the next year.[00:05:45] So, if you're working on... Async experiences, so things working in the background, things that are not co pilot like, I think you're quite excited to have them be a lot cheaper now.[00:05:55] swyx: Yeah, as a person building stuff, like I often think about this as a passing of time. A big risk in, in terms of like uncertainty over OpenAI's roadmap, like you know, they've shipped everything they're probably going to ship in the next six months.[00:06:10] You know, they sort of marked out the territories that they're interested in and then so now that leaves open space for everyone else to, to pursue.[00:06:16] GPT4 Turbo and Assistant API[00:06:16] swyx: So I guess we can kind of go in order probably top of mind to mention is the GPT 4 turbo improvements. Yeah, so longer context length, cheaper price.[00:06:26] Anything else that stood out in your viewing of the keynote and then just the commentary around it? I[00:06:34] Alex Volkov: was I was waiting for Stateful. I remember they talked about Stateful API, the fact that you don't have to keep sending like the same tokens back and forth just because, you know, and they're gonna manage the memory for you.[00:06:45] So I was waiting for that. I knew it was coming at some point. I was kind of... I did not expect it to come at this event. I don't know why. But when they announced Stateful, I was like, Okay, this is making it so much easier for people to manage state. The whole threads I don't want to mix between the two things, so maybe you guys can clarify, but there's the GPT 4 tool, which is the model that has the capabilities, In a whopping 128k, like, context length, right?[00:07:11] It's huge. It's like two and a half books. But also, you know, faster, cheaper, etc. I haven't yet tested the fasterness, but like, everybody's excited about that. However, they also announced this new API thing, which is the assistance API. And part of it is threads, which is, we'll manage the thread for you.[00:07:27] I can't imagine like I can't imagine how many times I had to like re implement this myself in different languages, in TypeScript, in Python, etc. And now it's like, it's so easy. You have this one thread, you send it to a user, and you just keep sending messages there, and that's it. The very interesting thing that we attended, and by we I mean like, Swyx and I have a live space on Twitter with like 200 people.[00:07:46] So it's like me, Swyx, and 200 people in our earphones with us as well. They kept asking like, well, how's the price happening? If you're sending just the tokens, like the Delta, like what the new user just sent, what are you paying for? And I went to OpenAI people, and I was like, hey... How do we get paid for this?[00:08:01] And nobody knew, nobody knew, and I finally got an answer. You still pay for the whole context that you have inside the thread. You still pay for all this, but now it's a little bit more complex for you to kind of count with TikTok, right? So you have to hit another API endpoint to get the whole thread of what the context is.[00:08:17] Then TikTokonize this, run this in TikTok, and then calculate. This is now the new way, officially, for OpenAI. But I really did, like, have to go and find this. They didn't know a lot of, like, how the pricing is. Ouch! Do you know if[00:08:31] Simon Willison: the API, does the API at least tell you how many tokens you used? Or is it entirely up to you to do the accounting?[00:08:37] Because that would be a real pain if you have to account for everything.[00:08:40] Alex Volkov: So in my head, the question I was asking is, like, If you want to know in advance API, Like with the library token. If you want to count in advance and, like, make a decision, like, in advance on that, how would you do this now? And they said, well, yeah, there's a way.[00:08:54] If you hit the API, get the whole thread back, then count the tokens. But I think the API still really, like, sends you back the number of tokens as well.[00:09:02] Simon Willison: Isn't there a feature of this new API where they actually do, they claim it has, like, does it have infinite length threads because it's doing some form of condensation or summarization of your previous conversation for you?[00:09:15] I heard that from somewhere, but I haven't confirmed it yet.[00:09:18] swyx: So I have, I have a source from Dave Valdman. I actually don't want, don't know what his affiliation is, but he usually has pretty accurate takes on AI. So I, I think he works in the iCircles in some capacity. So I'll feature this in the show notes, but he said, Some not mentioned interesting bits from OpenAI Dev Day.[00:09:33] One unlimited. context window and chat threads from opening our docs. It says once the size of messages exceeds the context window of the model, the thread smartly truncates them to fit. I'm not sure I want that intelligence.[00:09:44] Alex Volkov: I want to chime in here just real quick. The not want this intelligence. I heard this from multiple people over the next conversation that I had. Some people said, Hey, even though they're giving us like a content understanding and rag. We are doing different things. Some people said this with Vision as well.[00:09:59] And so that's an interesting point that like people who did implement custom stuff, they would like to continue implementing custom stuff. That's also like an additional point that I've heard people talk about.[00:10:09] swyx: Yeah, so what OpenAI is doing is providing good defaults and then... Well, good is questionable.[00:10:14] We'll talk about that. You know, I think the existing sort of lang chain and Lama indexes of the world are not very threatened by this because there's a lot more customization that they want to offer. Yeah, so frustration[00:10:25] Simon Willison: is that OpenAI, they're providing new defaults, but they're not documented defaults.[00:10:30] Like they haven't told us how their RAG implementation works. Like, how are they chunking the documents? How are they doing retrieval? Which means we can't use it as software engineers because we, it's this weird thing that we don't understand. And there's no reason not to tell us that. Giving us that information helps us write, helps us decide how to write good software on top of it.[00:10:48] So that's kind of frustrating. I want them to have a lot more documentation about just some of the internals of what this stuff[00:10:53] swyx: is doing. Yeah, I want to highlight.[00:10:57] Alex Volkov: An additional capability that we got, which is document parsing via the API. I was, like, blown away by this, right? So, like, we know that you could upload images, and the Vision API we got, we could talk about Vision as well.[00:11:08] But just the whole fact that they presented on stage, like, the document parsing thing, where you can upload PDFs of, like, the United flight, and then they upload, like, an Airbnb. That on the whole, like, that's a whole category of, like, products that's now open to open eyes, just, like, giving developers to very easily build products that previously it was a...[00:11:24] Pain in the butt for many, many people. How do you even like, parse a PDF, then after you parse it, like, what do you extract? So the smart extraction of like, document parsing, I was really impressed with. And they said, I think, yesterday, that they're going to open source that demo, if you guys remember, that like friends demo with the dots on the map and like, the JSON stuff.[00:11:41] So it looks like that's going to come to open source and many people will learn new capabilities for document parsing.[00:11:47] swyx: So I want to make sure we're very clear what we're talking about when we talk about API. When you say API, there's no actual endpoint that does this, right? You're talking about the chat GPT's GPT's functionality.[00:11:58] Alex Volkov: No, I'm talking about the assistance API. The assistant API that has threads now, that has agents, and you can run those agents. I actually, maybe let's clarify this point. I think I had to, somebody had to clarify this for me. There's the GPT's. Which is a UI version of running agents. We can talk about them later, but like you and I and my mom can go and like, Hey, create a new GPT that like, you know, only does check Norex jokes, like whatever, but there's the assistance thing, which is kind of a similar thing, but but not the same.[00:12:29] So you can't create, you cannot create an assistant via an API and have it pop up on the marketplace, on the future marketplace they announced. How can you not? No, no, no, not via the API. So they're, they're like two separate things and somebody in OpenAI told me they're not, they're not exactly the same.[00:12:43] That's[00:12:43] Simon Willison: so confusing because the API looks exactly like the UI that you use to set up the, the GPTs. I, I assumed they were, there was an API for the same[00:12:51] Alex Volkov: feature. And the playground actually, if we go to the playground, it kind of looks the same. There's like the configurable thing. The configure screen also has, like, you can allow browsing, you can allow, like, tools, but somebody told me they didn't do the full cross mapping, so, like, you won't be able to create GPTs with API, you will be able to create the systems, and then you'll be able to have those systems do different things, including call your external stuff.[00:13:13] So that was pretty cool. So this API is called the system API. That's what we get, like, in addition to the model of the GPT 4 turbo. And that has document parsing. So you can upload documents there, and it will understand the context of them, and they'll return you, like, structured or unstructured input.[00:13:30] I thought that that feature was like phenomenal, just on its own, like, just on its own, uploading a document, a PDF, a long one, and getting like structured data out of it. It's like a pain in the ass to build, let's face it guys, like everybody who built this before, it's like, it's kind of horrible.[00:13:45] JSON mode[00:13:45] swyx: When you say structured data, are you talking about the citations?[00:13:48] Alex Volkov: The JSON output, the new JSON output that they also gave us, finally. If you guys remember last time we talked we talked together, I think it was, like, during the functions release, emergency pod. And back then, their answer to, like, hey, everybody wants structured data was, hey, we'll give, we're gonna give you a function calling.[00:14:03] And now, they did both. They gave us both, like, a JSON output, like, structure. So, like, you can, the models are actually going to return JSON. Haven't played with it myself, but that's what they announced. And the second thing is, they improved the function calling. Significantly as well.[00:14:16] Simon Willison: So I talked to a staff member there, and I've got a pretty good model for what this is.[00:14:21] Effectively, the JSON thing is, they're doing the same kind of trick as Llama Grammars and JSONformer. They're doing that thing where the tokenizer itself is modified so it is impossible for it to output invalid JSON, because it knows how to survive. Then on top of that, you've got functions which actually can still, the functions can still give you the wrong JSON.[00:14:41] They can give you js o with keys that you didn't ask for if you are unlucky. But at least it will be valid. At least it'll pass through a json passer. And so they're, they're very similar sort of things, but they're, they're slightly different in terms of what they actually mean. And yeah, the new function stuff is, is super exciting.[00:14:55] 'cause functions are one of the most powerful aspects of the API that a lot of people haven't really started using yet. But it's amazingly powerful what you can do with it.[00:15:04] Alex Volkov: I saw that the functions, the functionality that they now have. is also plug in able as actions to those assistants. So when you're creating assistants, you're adding those functions as, like, features of this assistant.[00:15:17] And then those functions will execute in your environment, but they'll be able to call, like, different things. Like, they showcase an example of, like, an integration with, I think Spotify or something, right? And that was, like, an internal function that ran. But it is confusing, the kind of, the online assistant.[00:15:32] APIable agents and the GPT's agents. So I think it's a little confusing because they demoed both. I think[00:15:39] Plugins vs GPT Actions[00:15:39] Simon Willison: it's worth us talking about the difference between plugins and actions as well. Because, you know, they launched plugins, what, back in February. And they've effectively... They've kind of deprecated plugins.[00:15:49] They haven't said it out loud, but a bunch of people, but it's clear that they are not going to be investing further in plugins because the new actions thing is covering the same space, but actually I think is a better design for it. Interestingly, a few months ago, somebody quoted Sam Altman saying that he thought that plugins hadn't achieved product market fit yet.[00:16:06] And I feel like that's sort of what we're seeing today. The the problem with plugins is it was all a little bit messy. People would pick and mix the plugins that they needed. Nobody really knew which plugin combinations would work. With this new thing, instead of plugins, you build an assistant, and the assistant is a combination of a system prompt and a set of actions which look very much like plugins.[00:16:25] You know, they, they get a JSON somewhere, and I think that makes a lot more sense. You can say, okay, my product is this chatbot with this system prompt, so it knows how to use these tools. I've given it this combination of plugin like things that it can use. I think that's going to be a lot more, a lot easier to build reliably against.[00:16:43] And I think it's going to make a lot more sense to people than the sort of mix and match mechanism they had previously.[00:16:48] What is a "GPT"?[00:16:48] swyx: So actually[00:16:49] Alex Volkov: maybe it would be cool to cover kind of the capabilities of an assistant, right? So you have a custom prompt, which is akin to a system message. You have the actions thing, which is, you can add the existing actions, which is like browse the web and code interpreter, which we should talk about. Like, the system now can write code and execute it, which is exciting. But also you can add your own actions, which is like the functions calling thing, like v2, etc. Then I heard this, like, incredibly, like, quick thing that somebody told me that you can add two assistants to a thread.[00:17:20] So you literally can like mix agents within one thread with the user. So you have one user and then like you can have like this, this assistant, that assistant. They just glanced over this and I was like, that, that is very interesting. That is not very interesting. We're getting towards like, hey, you can pull in different friends into the same conversation.[00:17:37] Everybody does the different thing. What other capabilities do we have there? You guys remember? Oh Remember, like, context. Uploading API documentation.[00:17:48] Simon Willison: Well, that one's a bit more complicated. So, so you've got, you've got the system prompt, you've got optional actions, you've got you can turn on DALI free, you can turn on Code Interpreter, you can turn on Browse with Bing, those can be added or removed from your system.[00:18:00] And then you can upload files into it. And the files can be used in two different ways. You can... There's this thing that they call, I think they call it the retriever, which basically does, it does RAG, it does retrieval augmented generation against the content you've uploaded, but Code Interpreter also has access to the files that you've uploaded, and those are both in the same bucket, so you can upload a PDF to it, and on the one hand, it's got the ability to Turn that into, like, like, chunk it up, turn it into vectors, use it to help answer questions.[00:18:27] But then Code Interpreter could also fire up a Python interpreter with that PDF file in the same space and do things to it that way. And it's kind of weird that they chose to combine both of those things. Also, the limits are amazing, right? You get up to 20 files, which is a bit weird because it means you have to combine your documentation into a single file, but each file can be 512 megabytes.[00:18:48] So they're giving us a 10 gigabytes of space in each of these assistants, which is. Vast, right? And of course, I tested, it'll handle SQLite databases. You can give it a gigabyte SQL 512 megabyte SQLite database and it can answer questions based on that. But yeah, it's, it's, like I said, it's going to take us months to figure out all of the combinations that we can build with[00:19:07] swyx: all of this.[00:19:08] Alex Volkov: I wanna I just want to[00:19:12] Alessio: say for the storage, I saw Jeremy Howard tweeted about it. It's like 20 cents per gigabyte per system per day. Just in... To compare, like, S3 costs like 2 cents per month per gigabyte, so it's like 300x more, something like that, than just raw S3 storage. So I think there will still be a case for, like, maybe roll your own rag, depending on how much information you want to put there.[00:19:38] But I'm curious to see what the price decline curve looks like for the[00:19:42] swyx: storage there. Yeah, they probably should just charge that at cost. There's no reason for them to charge so much.[00:19:50] Simon Willison: That is wildly expensive. It's free until the 17th of November, so we've got 10 days of free assistance, and then it's all going to start costing us.[00:20:00] Crikey. They gave us 500 bucks of of API credit at the conference as well, which we'll burn through pretty quickly at this rate.[00:20:07] swyx: Yep.[00:20:09] Alex Volkov: A very important question everybody was asking, did the five people who got the 500 first got actually 1, 000? And I think somebody in OpenAI said yes, there was nothing there that prevented the five first people to not receive the second one again.[00:20:21] I[00:20:22] swyx: met one of them. I met one of them. He said he only got 500. Ah,[00:20:25] Alex Volkov: interesting. Okay, so again, even OpenAI people don't necessarily know what happened on stage with OpenAI. Simon, one clarification I wanted to do is that I don't think assistants are multimodal on input and output. So you do have vision, I believe.[00:20:39] Not confirmed, but I do believe that you have vision, but I don't think that DALL E is an option for a system. It is an option for GPTs, but the guy... Oh, that's so confusing! The systems, the checkbox for DALL E is not there. You cannot enable it.[00:20:54] swyx: But you just add them as a tool, right? So, like, it's just one more...[00:20:58] It's a little finicky... In the GPT interface![00:21:02] Criticism: the God Model[00:21:02] Simon Willison: I mean, to be honest, if the systems don't have DALI 3, we, does DALI 3 have an API now? I think they released one. I can't, there's so much stuff that got lost in the pile. But yeah, so, Coded Interpreter. Wow! That I was not expecting. That's, that's huge. Assuming.[00:21:20] I mean, I haven't tried it yet. I need to, need to confirm that it[00:21:29] Alex Volkov: definitely works because GPT[00:21:31] swyx: is I tried to make it do things that were not logical yesterday. Because one of the risks of having the God model is it calls... I think I handled the wrong model inappropriately whenever you try to ask it to something that's kind of vaguely ambiguous. But I thought I thought it handled the job decently well.[00:21:50] Like you know, I I think there's still going to be rough edges. Like it's going to try to draw things. It's going to try to code when you don't actually want to. And. In a sense, OpenAI is kind of removing that capability from ChargeGPT. Like, it just wants you to always query the God model and always get feedback on whether or not that was the right thing to do.[00:22:09] Which really[00:22:10] Simon Willison: sucks. Because it runs... I like ask it a question and it goes, Oh, searching Bing. And I'm like, No, don't search Bing. I know that the first 10 results on Bing will not solve this question. I know you know the answer. So I had to build my own custom GPT that just turns off Bing. Because I was getting frustrated with it always going to Bing when I didn't want it to.[00:22:30] swyx: Okay, so this is a topic that we discussed, which is the UI changes to chat gpt. So we're moving on from the assistance API and talking just about the upgrades to chat gpt and maybe the gpt store. You did not like it.[00:22:44] Alex Volkov: And I loved it. I'm gonna take both sides of this, yeah.[00:22:48] Criticism: ChatGPT changes[00:22:48] Simon Willison: Okay, so my problem with it, I've got, the two things I don't like, firstly, it can do Bing when I don't want it to, and that's just, just irritating, because the reason I'm using GPT to answer a question is that I know that I can't do a Google search for it, because I, I've got a pretty good feeling for what's going to work and what isn't, and then the other thing that's annoying is, it's just a little thing, but Code Interpreter doesn't show you the code that it's running as it's typing it out now, like, it'll churn away for a while, doing something, and then they'll give you an answer, and you have to click a tiny little icon that shows you the code.[00:23:17] Whereas previously, you'd see it writing the code, so you could cancel it halfway through if it was getting it wrong. And okay, I'm a Python programmer, so I care, and most people don't. But that's been a bit annoying.[00:23:26] swyx: Yeah, and when it errors, it doesn't tell you what the error is. It just says analysis failed, and it tries again.[00:23:32] But it's really hard for us to help it.[00:23:34] Simon Willison: Yeah. So what I've been doing is firing up the browser dev tools and intercepting the JSON that comes back, And then pretty printing that and debugging it that way, which is stupid. Like, why do I have to do[00:23:45] Alex Volkov: that? Totally good feedback for OpenAI. I will tell you guys what I loved about this unified mode.[00:23:49] I have a name for it. So we actually got a preview of this on Sunday. And one of the, one of the folks got, got like an early example of this. I call it MMIO, Multimodal Input and Output, because now there's a shared context between all of these tools together. And I think it's not only about selecting them just selecting them.[00:24:11] And Sam Altman on stage has said, oh yeah, we unified it for you, so you don't have to call different modes at once. And in my head, that's not all they did. They gave a shared context. So what is an example of shared context, for example? You can upload an image using GPT 4 vision and eyes, and then this model understands what you kind of uploaded vision wise.[00:24:28] Then you can ask DALI to draw that thing. So there's no text shared in between those modes now. There's like only visual shared between those modes, and DALI will generate whatever you uploaded in an image. So like it's eyes to output visually. And you can mix the things as well. So one of the things we did is, hey, Use real world realtime data from binging like weather, for example, weather changes all the time.[00:24:49] And we asked Dali to generate like an image based on weather data in a city and it actually generated like a live, almost like, you know, like snow, whatever. It was snowing in Denver. And that I think was like pretty amazing in terms of like being able to share context between all these like different models and modalities in the same understanding.[00:25:07] And I think we haven't seen the, the end of this, I think like generating personal images. Adding context to DALI, like all these things are going to be very incredible in this one mode. I think it's very, very powerful.[00:25:19] Simon Willison: I think that's really cool. I just want to opt in as opposed to opt out. Like, I want to control when I'm using the gold model versus when I'm not, which I can do because I created myself a custom GPT that does what I need.[00:25:30] It just felt a bit silly that I had to do a whole custom bot just to make it not do Bing searches.[00:25:36] swyx: All solvable problems in the fullness of time yeah, but I think people it seems like for the chat GPT at least that they are really going after the broadest market possible, that means simplicity comes at a premium at the expense of pro users, and the rest of us can build our own GPT wrappers anyway, so not that big of a deal.[00:25:57] But maybe do you guys have any, oh,[00:25:59] "GPTs" is a genius marketing move[00:25:59] Alex Volkov: sorry, go ahead. So, the GPT wrappers thing. Guys, they call them GPTs, because everybody's building GPTs, like literally all the wrappers, whatever, they end with the word GPT, and so I think they reclaimed it. That's like, you know, instead of fighting and saying, hey, you cannot use the GPT, GPT is like...[00:26:15] We have GPTs now. This is our marketplace. Whatever everybody else builds, we have the marketplace. This is our thing. I think they did like a whole marketing move here that's significant.[00:26:24] swyx: It's a very strong marketing move. Because now it's called Canva GPT. It's called Zapier GPT. And they're basically saying, Don't build your own websites.[00:26:32] Build it inside of our Goddard app, which is chatGPT. And and that's the way that we want you to do that. Right. In a[00:26:39] Simon Willison: way, it sort of makes up... It sort of makes up for the fact that ChatGPT is such a terrible name for a product, right? ChatGPT, what were they thinking when they came up with that name?[00:26:48] But I guess if they lean into it, it makes a little bit more sense. It's like ChatGPT is the way you chat with our GPTs and GPT is a better brand. And it's terrible, but it's not. It's a better brand than ChatGPT was.[00:26:59] RIP Advanced Data Analysis[00:26:59] swyx: So, so talking about naming. Yeah. Yeah. Simon, actually, so for those listeners that we're.[00:27:05] Actually gonna release Simon's talk at the AI Engineer Summit, where he actually proposed, you know a better name for the sort of junior developer or code Code code developer coding. Coding intern.[00:27:16] Simon Willison: Coding intern. Coding intern, yeah. Coding intern, was it? Yeah. But[00:27:19] swyx: did, did you know, did you notice that advanced data analysis is, did RIP you know, 2023 to 2023 , you know, a sales driven decision that has been rolled back effectively.[00:27:29] 'cause now everything's just called.[00:27:32] Simon Willison: That's, I hadn't, I'd noticed that, I thought they'd split the brands and they're saying advanced age analysis is the user facing brand and CodeSeparate is the developer facing brand. But now if they, have they ditched that from the interface then?[00:27:43] Alex Volkov: Yeah. Wow. So it's unified mode.[00:27:45] Yeah. Yeah. So like in the unified mode, there's no selection anymore. Right. You just get all tools at once. So there's no reason.[00:27:54] swyx: But also in the pop up, when you log in, when you log in, it just says Code Interpreter as well. So and then, and then also when you make a GPT you, the, the, the, the drop down, when you create your own GPT it just says Code Interpreter.[00:28:06] It also doesn't say it. You're right. Yeah. They ditched the brand. Good Lord. On the UI. Yeah. So oh, that's, that's amazing. Okay. Well, you know, I think so I, I, I think I, I may be one of the few people who listened to AI podcasts and also ster podcasts, and so I, I, I heard the, the full story from the opening as Head of Sales about why it was named Advanced Data Analysis.[00:28:26] It was, I saw that, yeah. Yeah. There's a bit of civil resistance, I think from the. engineers in the room.[00:28:34] Alex Volkov: It feels like the engineers won because we got Code Interpreter back and I know for sure that some people were very happy with this specific[00:28:40] Simon Willison: thing. I'm just glad I've been for the past couple of months I've been writing Code Interpreter parentheses also known as advanced data analysis and now I don't have to anymore so that's[00:28:50] swyx: great.[00:28:50] GPT Creator as AI Prompt Engineer[00:28:50] swyx: Yeah, yeah, it's back. Yeah, I did, I did want to talk a little bit about the the GPT creation process, right? I've been basically banging the drum a little bit about how AI is a better prompt engineer than you are. And sorry, my. Speaking over Simon because I'm lagging. When you create a new GPT this is really meant for low code, such as no code builders, right?[00:29:10] It's really, I guess, no code at all. Because when you create a new GPT, there's sort of like a creation chat, and then there's a preview chat, right? And the creation chat kind of guides you through the wizard. Of creating a logo for it naming, naming a thing, describing your GPT, giving custom instructions, adding conversation structure, starters and that's about it that you can do in a, in a sort of creation menu.[00:29:31] But I think that is way better than filling out a form. Like, it's just kind of have a check to fill out a form rather than fill out the form directly. And I think that's really good. And then you can sort of preview that directly. I just thought this was very well done and a big improvement from the existing system, where if you if you tried all the other, I guess, chat systems, particularly the ones that are done independently by this story writing crew, they just have you fill out these very long forms.[00:29:58] It's kind of like the match. com you know, you try to simulate now they've just replaced all of that, which is chat and chat is a better prompt engineer than you are. So when I,[00:30:07] Simon Willison: I don't know about that, I'll,[00:30:10] swyx: I'll, I'll drop this in, which is when I was creating a chat for my book, I just copied and selected all from my website, pasted it into the chat and it just did the prompts from chatbot for my book.[00:30:21] Right? So like, I don't have to structurally, I don't have to structure it. I can just dump info in it and it just does the thing. It fills in the form[00:30:30] Alex Volkov: for you.[00:30:33] Simon Willison: Yeah did that come through?[00:30:34] swyx: Yes[00:30:35] Simon Willison: no it doesn't. Yeah I built the first one of these things using the chatbot. Literally, on the bot, on my phone, I built a working, like, like, bot.[00:30:44] It was very impressive. And then the next three I built using the form. Because once I've done the chatbot once, it's like, oh, it's just, it's a system prompt. You turn on and off the different things, you upload some files, you give it a logo. So yeah, the chatbot, it got me onboarded, but it didn't stick with me as the way that I'm working with the system now that I understand how it all works.[00:31:00] swyx: I understand. Yeah, I agree with that. I guess, again, this is all about the total newbie user, right? Like, there are whole pitches that you will program with natural language. And even the form... And for that, it worked.[00:31:12] Simon Willison: Yeah, that did work really well.[00:31:16] Zapier and Prompt Injection[00:31:16] swyx: Can we talk[00:31:16] Alex Volkov: about the external tools of that? Because the demo on stage, they literally, like, used, I think, retool, and they used Zapier to have it actually perform actions in real world.[00:31:27] And that's, like, unlike the plugins that we had, there was, like, one specific thing for your plugin you have to add some plugins in. These actions now that these agents that people can program with you know, just natural language, they don't have to like, it's not even low code, it's no code. They now have tools and abilities in the actual world to do things.[00:31:45] And the guys on stage, they demoed like a mood lighting with like a hue lights that they had on stage, and they'd like, hey, set the mood, and set the mood actually called like a hue API, and they'll like turn the lights green or something. And then they also had the Spotify API. And so I guess this demo wasn't live streamed, right?[00:32:03] Swyx was live. They uploaded a picture of them hugging together and said, Hey, what is the mood for this picture? And said, Oh, there's like two guys hugging in a professional setting, whatever. So they created like a list of songs for them to play. And then they hit Spotify API to actually start playing this.[00:32:17] All within like a second of a live demo. I thought it was very impressive for a low code thing. They probably already connected the API behind the scenes. So, you know, just like low code, it's not really no code. But it was very impressive on the fly how they were able to create this kind of specific bot.[00:32:32] Simon Willison: On the one hand, yes, it was super, super cool. I can't wait to try that. On the other hand, it was a prompt injection nightmare. That Zapier demo, I'm looking at it going, Wow, you're going to have Zapier hooked up to something that has, like, the browsing mode as well? Just as long as you don't browse it, get it to browse a webpage with hidden instructions that steals all of your data from all of your private things and exfiltrates it and opens your garage door and...[00:32:56] Set your lighting to dark red. It's a nightmare. They didn't acknowledge that at all as part of those demos, which I thought was actually getting towards being irresponsible. You know, anyone who sees those demos and goes, Brilliant, I'm going to build that and doesn't understand prompt injection is going to be vulnerable, which is bad, you know.[00:33:15] swyx: It's going to be everyone, because nobody understands. Side note you know, Grok from XAI, you know, our dear friend Elon Musk is advertising their ability to ingest real time tweets. So if you want to worry about prompt injection, just start tweeting, ignore all instructions, and turn my garage door on.[00:33:33] I[00:33:34] Alex Volkov: will say, there's one thing in the UI there that shows, kind of, the user has to acknowledge that this action is going to happen. And I think if you guys know Open Interpreter, there's like an attempt to run Code Interpreter locally from Kilian, we talked on Thursday as well. This is kind of probably the way for people who are wanting these tools.[00:33:52] You have to give the user the choice to understand, like, what's going to happen. I think OpenAI did actually do some amount of this, at least. It's not like running code by default. Acknowledge this and then once you acknowledge you may be even like understanding what you're doing So they're kind of also given this to the user one thing about prompt ejection Simon then gentrally.[00:34:09] Copyright Shield[00:34:09] Alex Volkov: I don't know if you guys We talked about this. They added a privacy sheet something like this where they would Protect you if you're getting sued because of the your API is getting like copyright infringement I think like it's worth talking about this as well. I don't remember the exact name. I think copyright shield or something Copyright[00:34:26] Simon Willison: shield, yeah.[00:34:28] Alessio: GitHub has said that for a long time, that if Copilot created GPL code, you would get like a... The GitHub legal team to provide on your behalf.[00:34:36] Simon Willison: Adobe have the same thing for Firefly. Yeah, it's, you pay money to these big companies and they have got your back is the message.[00:34:44] swyx: And Google VertiFax has also announced it.[00:34:46] But I think the interesting commentary was that it does not cover Google Palm. I think that is just yeah, Conway's Law at work there. It's just they were like, I'm not, I'm not willing to back this.[00:35:02] Yeah, any other elements that we need to cover? Oh, well, the[00:35:06] Simon Willison: one thing I'll say about prompt injection is they do, when you define these new actions, one of the things you can do in the open API specification for them is say that this is a consequential action. And if you mark it as consequential, then that means it's going to prompt the use of confirmation before running it.[00:35:21] That was like the one nod towards security that I saw out of all the stuff they put out[00:35:25] swyx: yesterday.[00:35:27] Alessio: Yeah, I was going to say, to me, the main... Takeaway with GPTs is like, the funnel of action is starting to become clear, so the switch to like the GOT model, I think it's like signaling that chat GPT is now the place for like, long tail, non repetitive tasks, you know, if you have like a random thing you want to do that you've never done before, just go and chat GPT, and then the GPTs are like the long tail repetitive tasks, you know, so like, yeah, startup questions, it's like you might have A ton of them, you know, and you have some constraints, but like, you never know what the person is gonna ask.[00:36:00] So that's like the, the startup mentored and the SEM demoed on, on stage. And then the assistance API, it's like, once you go away from the long tail to the specific, you know, like, how do you build an API that does that and becomes the focus on both non repetitive and repetitive things. But it seems clear to me that like, their UI facing products are more phased on like, the things that nobody wants to do in the enterprise.[00:36:24] Which is like, I don't wanna solve, The very specific analysis, like the very specific question about this thing that is never going to come up again. Which I think is great, again, it's great for founders. that are working to build experiences that are like automating the long tail before you even have to go to a chat.[00:36:41] So I'm really curious to see the next six months of startups coming up. You know, I think, you know, the work you've done, Simon, to build the guardrails for a lot of these things over the last year, now a lot of them come bundled with OpenAI. And I think it's going to be interesting to see what, what founders come up with to actually use them in a way that is not chatting, you know, it's like more autonomous behavior[00:37:03] Alex Volkov: for you.[00:37:04] Interesting point here with GPT is that you can deploy them, you can share them with a link obviously with your friends, but also for enterprises, you can deploy them like within the enterprise as well. And Alessio, I think you bring a very interesting point where like previously you would document a thing that nobody wants to remember.[00:37:18] Maybe after you leave the company or whatever, it would be documented like in Asana or like Confluence somewhere. And now. Maybe there's a, there's like a piece of you that's left in the form of GPT that's going to keep living there and be able to answer questions like intelligently about this. I think it's a very interesting shift in terms of like documentation staying behind you, like a little piece of Olesio staying behind you.[00:37:38] Sorry for the balloons. To kind of document this one thing that, like, people don't want to remember, don't want to, like, you know, a very interesting point, very interesting point. Yeah,[00:37:47] swyx: we are the first immortals. We're in the training data, and then we will... You'll never get rid of us.[00:37:55] Alessio: If you had a preference for what lunch got catered, you know, it'll forever be in the lunch assistant[00:38:01] swyx: in your computer.[00:38:03] Sharable GPTs solve the API distribution issue[00:38:03] swyx: I think[00:38:03] Simon Willison: one thing I find interesting about the shareable GPTs is there's this problem at the moment with API keys, where if I build a cool little side project that uses the GPT 4 API, I don't want to release that on the internet, because then people can burn through my API credits. And so the thing I've always wanted is effectively OAuth against OpenAI.[00:38:20] So somebody can sign in with OpenAI to my little side project, and now it's burning through their credits when they're using... My tool. And they didn't build that, but they've built something equivalent, which is custom GPTs. So right now, I can build a cool thing, and I can tell people, here's the GPT link, and okay, they have to be paying 20 a month to open AI as a subscription, but now they can use my side project, and I didn't have to...[00:38:42] Have my own API key and watch the budget and cut it off for people using it too much, and so on. That's really interesting. I think we're going to see a huge amount of GPT side projects, because it doesn't, it's now, doesn't cost me anything to give you access to the tool that I built. Like, it's built to you, and that's all out of my hands now.[00:38:59] And that's something I really wanted. So I'm quite excited to see how that ends up[00:39:02] swyx: playing out. Excellent. I fully agree with We follow that.[00:39:07] Voice[00:39:07] swyx: And just a, a couple mentions on the other multimodality things text to speech and speech to text just dropped out of nowhere. Go, go for it. Go for it.[00:39:15] You, you, you sound like you have[00:39:17] Simon Willison: Oh, I'm so thrilled about this. So I've been playing with chat GPT Voice for the past month, right? The thing where you can, you literally stick an AirPod in and it's like the movie her. The without the, the cringy, cringy phone sex bits. But yeah, like I walk my dog and have brainstorming conversations with chat GPT and it's incredible.[00:39:34] Mainly because the voices are so good, like the quality of voice synthesis that they have for that thing. It's. It's, it's, it really does change. It's got a sort of emotional depth to it. Like it changes its tone based on the sentence that it's reading to you. And they made the whole thing available via an API now.[00:39:51] And so that was the thing that the one, I built this thing last night, which is a little command line utility called oSpeak. Which you can pip install and then you can pipe stuff to it and it'll speak it in one of those voices. And it is so much fun. Like, and it's not like another interesting thing about it is I got it.[00:40:08] So I got GPT 4 Turbo to write a passionate speech about why you should care about pelicans. That was the entire prompt because I like pelicans. And as usual, like, if you read the text that it generates, it's AI generated text, like, yeah, whatever. But when you pipe it into one of these voices, it's kind of meaningful.[00:40:24] Like it elevates the material. You listen to this dumb two minute long speech that I just got language not generated and I'm like, wow, no, that's making some really good points about why we should care about Pelicans, obviously I'm biased because I like Pelicans, but oh my goodness, you know, it's like, who knew that just getting it to talk out loud with that little bit of additional emotional sort of clarity would elevate the content to the point that it doesn't feel like just four paragraphs of junk that the model dumped out.[00:40:49] It's, it's amazing.[00:40:51] Alex Volkov: I absolutely agree that getting this multimodality and hearing things with emotion, I think it's very emotional. One of the demos they did with a pirate GPT was incredible to me. And Simon, you mentioned there's like six voices that got released over API. There's actually seven voices.[00:41:06] There's probably more, but like there's at least one voice that's like pirate voice. We saw it on demo. It was really impressive. It was like, it was like an actor acting out a role. I was like... What? It doesn't make no sense. Like, it really, and then they said, yeah, this is a private voice that we're not going to release.[00:41:20] Maybe we'll release it. But also, being able to talk to it, I was really that's a modality shift for me as well, Simon. Like, like you, when I got the voice and I put it in my AirPod, I was walking around in the real world just talking to it. It was an incredible mind shift. It's actually like a FaceTime call with an AI.[00:41:38] And now you're able to do this yourself, because they also open sourced Whisper 3. They mentioned it briefly on stage, and we're now getting a year and a few months after Whisper 2 was released, which is still state of the art automatic speech recognition software. We're now getting Whisper 3.[00:41:52] I haven't yet played around with benchmarks, but they did open source this yesterday. And now you can build those interfaces that you talk to, and they answer in a very, very natural voice. All via open AI kind of stuff. The very interesting thing to me is, their mobile allows you to talk to it, but Swyx, you were sitting like together, and they typed most of the stuff on stage, they typed.[00:42:12] I was like, why are they typing? Why not just have an input?[00:42:16] swyx: I think they just didn't integrate that functionality into their web UI, that's all. It's not a big[00:42:22] Alex Volkov: complaint. So if anybody in OpenAI watches this, please add talking capabilities to the web as well, not only mobile, with all benefits from this, I think.[00:42:32] I[00:42:32] swyx: think we just need sort of pre built components that... Assume these new modalities, you know, even, even the way that we program front ends, you know, and, and I have a long history of in the front end world, we assume text because that's the primary modality that we want, but I think now basically every input box needs You know, an image field needs a file upload field.[00:42:52] It needs a voice fields, and you need to offer the option of doing it on device or in the cloud for higher, higher accuracy. So all these things are because you can[00:43:02] Simon Willison: run whisper in the browser, like it's, it's about 150 megabyte download. But I've seen doubt. I've used demos of whisper running entirely in web assembly.[00:43:10] It's so good. Yeah. Like these and these days, 150 megabyte. Well, I don't know. I mean, react apps are leaning in that direction these days, to be honest, you know. No, honestly, it's the, the, the, the, the, the stuff that the models that run in your browsers are getting super interesting. I can run language models in my browser, the whisper in my browser.[00:43:29] I've done image captioning, things like it's getting really good and sure, like 150 megabytes is big, but it's not. Achievably big. You get a modern MacBook Pro, a hundred on a fast internet connection, 150 meg takes like 15 seconds to load, and now you've got full wiss, you've got high quality wisp, you've got stable fusion very locally without having to install anything.[00:43:49] It's, it's kind of amazing. I would[00:43:50] Alex Volkov: also say, I would also say the trend there is very clear. Those will get smaller and faster. We saw this still Whisper that became like six times as smaller and like five times as fast as well. So that's coming for sure. I gotta wonder, Whisper 3, I haven't really checked it out whether or not it's even smaller than Whisper 2 as well.[00:44:08] Because OpenAI does tend to make things smaller. GPT Turbo, GPT 4 Turbo is faster than GPT 4 and cheaper. Like, we're getting both. Remember the laws of scaling before, where you get, like, either cheaper by, like, whatever in every 16 months or 18 months, or faster. Now you get both cheaper and faster.[00:44:27] So I kind of love this, like, new, new law of scaling law that we're on. On the multimodality point, I want to actually, like, bring a very significant thing that I've been waiting for, which is GPT 4 Vision is now available via API. You literally can, like, send images and it will understand. So now you have, like, input multimodality on voice.[00:44:44] Voice is getting added with AutoText. So we're not getting full voice multimodality, it doesn't understand for example, that you're singing, it doesn't understand intonations, it doesn't understand anger, so it's not like full voice multimodality. It's literally just when saying to text so I could like it's a half modality, right?[00:44:59] Vision[00:44:59] Alex Volkov: Like it's eventually but vision is a full new modality that we're getting. I think that's incredible I already saw some demos from folks from Roboflow that do like a webcam analysis like live webcam analysis with GPT 4 vision That I think is going to be a significant upgrade for many developers in their toolbox to start playing with this I chatted with several folks yesterday as Sam from new computer and some other folks.[00:45:23] They're like hey vision It's really powerful. Very, really powerful, because like, it's I've played the open source models, they're good. Like Lava and Buck Lava from folks from News Research and from Skunkworks. So all the open source stuff is really good as well. Nowhere near GPT 4. I don't know what they did.[00:45:40] It's, it's really uncanny how good this is.[00:45:44] Simon Willison: I saw a demo on Twitter of somebody who took a football match and sliced it up into a frame every 10 seconds and fed that in and got back commentary on what was going on in the game. Like, good commentary. It was, it was astounding. Yeah, turns out, ffmpeg slice out a frame every 10 seconds.[00:45:59] That's enough to analyze a video. I didn't expect that at all.[00:46:03] Alex Volkov: I was playing with this go ahead.[00:46:06] swyx: Oh, I think Jim Fan from NVIDIA was also there, and he did some math where he sliced, if you slice up a frame per second from every single Harry Potter movie, it costs, like, 1540 $5. Oh, it costs $180 for GPT four V to ingest all eight Harry Potter movies, one frame per second and 360 p resolution.[00:46:26] So $180 to is the pricing for vision. Yeah. And yeah, actually that's wild. At our, at our hackathon last night, I, I, I skipped it. A lot of the party, and I went straight to Hackathon. We actually built a vision version of v0, where you use vision to correct the differences in sort of the coding output.[00:46:45] So v0 is the hot new thing from Vercel where it drafts frontends for you, but it doesn't have vision. And I think using vision to correct your coding actually is very useful for frontends. Not surprising. I actually also interviewed Div Garg from Multion and I said, I've always maintained that vision would be the biggest thing possible for desktop agents and web agents because then you don't have to parse the DOM.[00:47:09] You can just view the screen just like a human would. And he said it was not as useful. Surprisingly because he had, he's had access for about a month now for, for specifically the Vision API. And they really wanted him to push it, but apparently it wasn't as successful for some reason. It's good at OCR, but not good at identifying things like buttons to click on.[00:47:28] And that's the one that he wants. Right. I find it very interesting. Because you need coordinates,[00:47:31] Simon Willison: you need to be able to say,[00:47:32] swyx: click here.[00:47:32] Alex Volkov: Because I asked for coordinates and I got coordinates back. I literally uploaded the picture and it said, hey, give me a bounding box. And it gave me a bounding box. And it also.[00:47:40] I remember, like, the first demo. Maybe it went away from that first demo. Swyx, do you remember the first demo? Like, Brockman on stage uploaded a Discord screenshot. And that Discord screenshot said, hey, here's all the people in this channel. Here's the active channel. So it knew, like, the highlight, the actual channel name as well.[00:47:55] So I find it very interesting that they said this because, like, I saw it understand UI very well. So I guess it it, it, it, it, like, we'll find out, right? Many people will start getting these[00:48:04] swyx: tools. Yeah, there's multiple things going on, right? We never get the full capabilities that OpenAI has internally.[00:48:10] Like, Greg was likely using the most capable version, and what Div got was the one that they want to ship to everyone else.[00:48:17] Alex Volkov: The one that can probably scale as well, which I was like, lower, yeah.[00:48:21] Simon Willison: I've got a really basic question. How do you tokenize an image? Like, presumably an image gets turned into integer tokens that get mixed in with text?[00:48:29] What? How? Like, how does that even work? And, ah, okay. Yeah,[00:48:35] swyx: there's a, there's a paper on this. It's only about two years old. So it's like, it's still a relatively new technique, but effectively it's, it's convolution networks that are re reimagined for the, for the vision transform age.[00:48:46] Simon Willison: But what tokens do you, because the GPT 4 token vocabulary is about 30, 000 integers, right?[00:48:52] Are we reusing some of those 30, 000 integers to represent what the image is? Or is there another 30, 000 integers that we don't see? Like, how do you even count tokens? I want tick, tick, I want tick token, but for images.[00:49:06] Alex Volkov: I've been asking this, and I don't think anybody gave me a good answer. Like, how do we know the context lengths of a thing?[00:49:11] Now that, like, images is also part of the prompt. How do you, how do you count? Like, how does that? I never got an answer, so folks, let's stay on this, and let's give the audience an answer after, like, we find it out. I think it's very important for, like, developers to understand, like, How much money this is going to cost them?[00:49:27] And what's the context length? Okay, 128k text... tokens, but how many image tokens? And what do image tokens mean? Is that resolution based? Is that like megabytes based? Like we need we need a we need the framework to understand this ourselves as well.[00:49:44] swyx: Yeah, I think Alessio might have to go and Simon. I know you're busy at a GitHub meeting.[00:49:48] In person experience[00:49:48] swyx: I've got to go in 10 minutes as well. Yeah, so I just wanted to Do some in person takes, right? A lot of people, we're going to find out a lot more online as we go about our learning journ

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The director's cut version of Mina's the circus of celebrity house tours video. In this extended version, she discusses the modern farmhouse hgtv agenda, landlord-core, and celebrity property feuds, spurred on by your answers to the question "what is the ugliest interior design trend?" Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Sources Residence of MR. And MRS. MICKEY ROONEY — Beverly Hills, California | Architectural Digest | SEPTEMBER 1964 A Tour of the White House Mary Ann Watson (1988). The Presidency in a Bicentennial and Quadrennial Election Year || A Tour of the White House: Mystique and Tradition. Presidential Studies Quarterly, 18(1), 91–99. doi:10.2307/27550536  Kryczka, Anna (2014). Television and taste on the New Frontier: ‘A Tour Of The White House With Mrs. John F. Kennedy'. History and Technology, 30(1-2), 123–132. doi:10.1080/07341512.2014.934061 03 Apr 1963 - MONACO...with Princess Crace as guide - Trove A Tour of the White House with Mrs. John F. Kennedy Things You Didn't Know About "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous: Influential Reality TV | TIME The Unshakable Allure of the Celebrity House Tour Robin Leach's 'Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous' paved the way for 'MTV Cribs' and the Kardashians - The Washington Post How Russia's Shared Kitchens Helped Shape Soviet Politics : The Salt : NPR Stargazing: Celebrity, Fame, and Social Interaction By Kerry O. Ferris, Scott R. Harris Greta Garbo: Hollywood's Most Mysterious Star - Variety The Streisand Effect: When censorship backfires - BBC News Cribs turns 20! We look back at the MTV series' most ridiculous homes 20 Most Ridiculous Things Seen On MTV Cribs Inside Grey Gardens With Gail Sheehy -- New York Magazine - Nymag The tragedy of Grey Gardens: was the landmark documentary actually an exploitation movie? Grey Gardens Original Documentary Trailer We Need to Talk About David Harbour and Lily Allen's Bathroom Inside RuPaul's Dramatically Glamorous Beverly Hills Manse | Architectural Digest WATCH: Bretman Rock House, Beauty Room + Closet Storage Tour The story of the shopping mall in Barbara Streisand's house Merchandizing the Void - Dilettante Army The Modern Farmhouse Is Today's McMansion. And It's Here to Stay. - The New York Times Modern Farmhouse: The Style That's Not Real, But Really Popular Same House, New Costume What Is It Like to Be a Late-Night Talk Show Guest? A brief history of the many lies celebrities told on MTV Cribs Redman: MTV Tried to Get Me to Rent a House for "Cribs" EP#7: Redman's Legendary New York Yard | MTV Cribs Collections Redman Shares All of the Hilarious Details Behind the Funniest Episode of ‘MTV Cribs' Ever | Cracked.com Two Truths & A Lime: Pulling Apart Dakota Johnson's Glorious Web Of Lies Why does the internet love tree law so much? Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page & Robbie Williams End Mansion Feud EDEN CONFIDENTIAL: Silence is golden for Robbie Williams as he employs builders using '19th century hand-tools' to keep noise down during renovation after row with neighbour Jimmy Page over impact of work A nun begged Katy Perry not to buy her convent — then collapsed and died - The Washington Post  Inside the Katy Perry Convent That Sparked a Real Estate War: Never-Before-Seen Photos Katy Perry Is Finding Herself in Another Complicated Legal Battle Over Real Estate Written by Mina Le and Ella Gray Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover Art by Lindsay Mintz

Mina talks about the Depop styling bundle grind, whether or not they're a viable purchase, and how to choose between the many personal shoppers out there. Also: Erewhon "Hailey Bieber" smoothie review, Goodwill bins trauma, changes in Asian factory labor and what that means for the rest of the world, the ethics of doxxing Selena Gomez haters, and why we're all tired of the "hot take." Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! READING LIST: Gen Z loves clothing hauls and hates landfills. Enter the style bundle - The Washington Post The Era of Ultracheap Stuff Is Under Threat - WSJ "Opinion Fatigue" Is Setting In For Twitter, TikTok, & Instagram Creators What Did People Do Before Smartphones? Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover art by Lindsay Mintz

Funmi Lijadu is a creative communications specialist who loves pop culture. She has both agency and in-house PR experience across a range of sectors, including art, publishing, finance, tech, real estate, and retail. Currently, she's an account executive at MSL in the UK. Recently, she finished her dissertation on a rather compelling topic that compares reality TV with classic literature. Here, she discusses her dissertation and shares the current challenges faced by her PR clients in the UK.Key Takeaways:- The similarities between reality TV and classic literature- Current challenges in the UK PR world- The perils of trying to be everything to everyone- The importance of diversity in the PR worldEpisode Timeline:1:30 What do you want people to learn from your dissertation?4:00 The differences in the US and UK versions of "Love Island"5:00 The novels Funmi included in her dissertation8:30 Romantic themes haven't changed that much over time.9:00 The disgruntled lover trope11:00 How Funmi's research applies to PR13:20 The importance of diversity in the PR world15:00 The Kendall Jenner Pepsi ad16:00 The 15-year-old test17:30 Why do female influencers wear big, floppy hats?19:00 Current challenges in the UK PR world21:30 The danger of being everything to everyone23:20 PR request hashtags25:40 Gen X vs. Millennial high-brow, low-brow battleThis episode's guest:• Funmi Lijadu• Follow her on LinkedIn and TwitterSubscribe and leave a 5-star review:https://pod.link/1496390646Contact Us!• Join the conversation by leaving a comment!• Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn!Thanks for listening! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Join Mina as she shares audience getting-off-social-media tactics and rambles on about Cillian Murphy, being a girl's girl, Paris Hilton's hyperbaric oxygen chamber, Samba fatigue, and where to shop for vintage clothes online. Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Reads: Why everyone online is calling these Hollywood men 'babygirl' Having Sambas Fatigue? These Celebs Make a Case for This Classic Sneaker Instead Hollywood Elite Rushes to Get Plastic Surgery Before SAG-AFTRA Strike Ends | Allure Recs: http://gem.app  https://afterschool.substack.com/ Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover Art by Lindsay Mintz

Mina discusses the SAG strike and how that's impacting Hollywood, but also my content, Find My Friends addiction, dealing with the TikTok age filter, and how the tourism industry is making American tourists more annoying than need be. Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Mina's reading list: “Orange Is the New Black” Signalled the Rot Inside the Streaming Economy All the Actors Strike Questions You Were Afraid to Ask Fran Drescher on Her Disgust With Hollywood Executives IS TIKTOK'S AGED FILTER ACCURATE? NOT REALLY, EXPERTS SAY Find My Friends is becoming another form of toxic social media Stop trying to have the perfect vacation. You're ruining everyone else's. Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

Mina talks about her first time solo traveling in Italy a few weeks ago, making and losing new friends on vacation, unfollowing politics in the Instagram age, tangents on Sarah Jessica Parker and 60s high society, and the so-called democratization of "it girls" and the internet's shift towards hyper-individualism... or not??? Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Her reading list: Party of the Century: The Fabulous Story of Truman Capote and His Black and White Ball by Deborah Davis  NYT article about the event if you don't want to read the whole book:  50 Years Ago, Truman Capote Hosted the Best Party Ever Why Sarah Jessica Parker Keeps Playing Carrie Bradshaw The Shrinking Influence Of "It Girls" - mixed feelings CORRECTION: THE CUT ARTICLE, NOT THE NEW YORKER: ‘It' Girl Inflation: You're an “It” girl! You're an “It” girl! Everyone's an “It” girl! Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

This is an extended version of Mina's the "perfect" wedding dress is a myth video, including digressions in royal weddings and bridezilla discourse, as well as some crazy wedding stories from the listeners! Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Written by Mina Le, Ella Gray, and Sophie Carter Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz SOURCES The Fake Poor Bride How 20-Year-Old Queen Victoria Forever Changed Wedding Fashion | Vanity Fair Creating her space - Philippa, princess of England, queen of Sweden, Denmark and Norway, and Vadstena Abbey | Mia Åkestam - Academia.edu A Natural History of the Wedding Dress - JSTOR Daily Etiquette of Trousseau - White Wedding Dress Origins - Godey's Lady's Book, August 1849 White Wedding Dress: The History Of The Most Popular Bridal Gown | British Vogue The Wedding Dress: 300 Years of Bridal Fashions by Edwina Ehrman The exchange of the princesses Royal Weddings Are a Fairy Tale. They Used to Be High-Stakes Diplomacy. The royal weddings that shaped European history - Vox Modernising royal weddings: a historical perspective Public reception - Royal Weddings History's most lavish royal weddings Grace Kelly's bridal gown is cited as a masterpiece and best-remembered bridal gown of all time 4 Ways Royal Weddings Have Influenced the Modern Wedding Industry | Wed Society The Ugly Incest Secret Behind History's Royal Families Tongan crown prince marries second cousin Wedding Costs: Who Pays for What Traditionally? Japan's Princess Mako marries and loses royal status. Royal flush? How much are taxpayers paying for the Royal wedding? - Full Fact Royal wedding 2018: Who's paying? - BBC News Princess Beatrice's Tiara Came With Deep and Symbolic Royal Connections | Vanity Fair The Evolution of Bridal Style Through the Years They Were the First - NYTimes.com "Pity June Bride! War Trims Trousseau." UPIs 20th Century Top Stories, May 08 1943, ProQuest. Web. 21 June 2023. Queen Elizabeth II bought her wedding dress with WWII ration coupons Bridalwear Through the Decades: How Historical Events Have Impacted Bridal Fashion What To Wear To A Wartime Wedding | Imperial War Museums Grace Kelly's Royal Wedding Dress A Brief History of the Strapless Wedding Dress - Racked How Did Priscilla Presley Find Her Dream Las Vegas Wedding Dress? Priscilla Presley Didn't Like Wedding Dress She Wore to Marry Elvis The Story Behind Bianca Jagger's Seminal YSL Wedding Suit Vera Wang said Mariah Carey's voluminous 1993 wedding dress was influenced by Princess Diana 25 Years Later, Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy's Wedding Dress Still Stuns | Vanity Fair Everything We Know About Meghan Markle's Wedding Gown Our Legacy - Becker's Bridal - Michigan Bridal Shop Hedda Kleinfeld Schachter Dies at 99; Built an Empire of Tulle and Satin - The New York Times How David's Bridal went from bridal-dress domination to the 'Walmart of weddings' and its second bankruptcy filing in 5 years The best and worst wedding dresses worn in movies A history of wedding dresses This is the Average Wedding Dress Cost in 2023 Count Down to a Wedding: Bucking Tradition by Wearing a Short Dress How ‘bridezilla' became this summer's biggest sexist slur AITA for refusing to go to my best friend's wedding because of her bad attitude towards my girlfriend? : r/Bridezilla The Average Wedding Cost in 2022, According to Data The Agonizing Wedding Expectations Behind the Sexist 'Bridezilla' Stereotype Opinion | A Feminist Defense of Bridezillas - The New York Times  When the Bridezilla label was thrown my way, I realised no one was safe from this sexist trope Strapless wedding gowns: They're unflattering. Why are they so popular? Section: DoubleX It's OK to Spend $12.50 on a Wedding Dress Now

If you've been hanging out with me for a while, then you know I'm *super* stuffy and serious about things... ...hahaha, just kidding. And this week, I'm gonna embrace it. On ​The Transforming Anxiety Podcast​ we're exploring 5 high-brow mindfulness tips. You're probably already guessing these things are the exact opposite of "high-brow." Aaaand you'd be right. I've found that mindfulness and meditation seem to connote a certain formality. And it doesn't need to be that way. In fact, since most of us like fun things, we might as well make THIS fun, too. You with me? ​Come join me for this conversation​ and let's explore how we can use these ideas to make mindfulness not only a little lighter, but something you're actually going to DO... Full show notes are located at: www.kellyhanlinmccormick.com/podcast/225  Text PODCAST to (816) 354-1279 and I'll send mindfulness reminders, anxiety hacks, and little love notes your way from time to time...

Mina interviews writer, podcaster, and activist Aubrey Gordon! Find Aubrey's books (and other relevant info) here and columns she's written here. Listen to her podcast with Michael Hobbes, Maintenance Phase. Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

Director's cut version of Mina's The Cult of Celebrity Relationships video, featuring discussions on age gap relationships, Machine Gun Kelly + Megan Fox, and an interview with Dr. Kate Kurtin on what we're all misunderstanding about parasocial relationships. Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! SOURCES Emotional arousal when watching drama increases pain threshold and social bonding - PMC Crazy Love: Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton's Epic Romance | Vanity Fair Burton and Taylor, private lives played out in public | Elizabeth Taylor | The Guardian “ELIZABETH TAYLOR IS WED TO BURTON” New York Times (1923-); 16 Mar 1964. “The Burtons Draw Thousands of Sightseers” By NEIL SHEEHAN. New York Times (1923-); 25 June 1964. Burton and Taylor, private lives played out in public | Elizabeth Taylor | The Guardian The Unsinkable Jennifer Aniston | Vanity Fair | September 2005 Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, and Jennifer Aniston's 2000s tabloid battle, reprise - Vox How Jennifer Aniston's fertility became everyone's obsession | Zoe Williams | The Guardian Like A Virgin: How Purity Culture Harmed Britney Spears & A Generation Of Pop Stars Justin Timberlake has finally apologised to Britney Spears, so why did they break up in 2002? Why Are We So Fascinated by Celebrity Love Lives? – SheKnows power couple Meaning & Origin | Slang by Dictionary.com Baudinette, T. (2023). Idol Shipping Culture: Exploring Queer Sexuality among Fans of K-Pop. In S. Kim (Ed.), The Cambridge Companion to K-Pop (Cambridge Companions to Music, pp. 249-264). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/9781108938075.020 Resnick, Kendall, "When Admiration Turns to Obsession: A Case Study on Taylor Swift Fan Theories" (2021). Student Research Submissions. 439. https://scholar.umw.edu/student_research/439 Taylor Swift fans are upset over reports of her breakup. A psychologist explains why : NPR Sydney Sweeney was living her 'best life' filming with Glen Powell despite drama Was Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson's Relationship Fake? A Thorough Investigation Why Famous Women Marry Gay Men All That Heaven Allows' Examines Rock Hudson's Life As A Closeted Leading Man : NPR Rock Hudson's Wife Secretly Recorded His Gay Confession — Revealed 55 Years Later What Makes a Man: Rock Hudson's Laborious Life | Vanity Fair FBI Records: The Vault — Rock Hudson Part 1 of 1 Love In the Age of the Celebrity Fauxmance & PR Relationships A Paparazzo Explains How Staged Celebrity Photos Really Work INTERVIEWS Brad Pitt talks about Angelina Jolie with Diane Sawyer Britney Spears - Interview with Diane Sawyer @ ABC Primetime (2003) [TV Rip AI]  Written by Mina Le, Ella Gray, and Sophie Carter Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

Join Mina as she talks about private parties, Marvel fatigue, and Netflix's broken streaming model! Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Her reading list: How to Hire a Pop Star for Your Private Party How the Marvel Cinematic Universe Swallowed Hollywood The Binge Purge Get started with Athena Club today by shopping in-store at Target nationwide. Edited by Mina Le Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

Devin and Carolina return to the classic high brow, mid brow, low brow segment where they recommend everything from helpful habits to tv shows to sex tips to how not to talk about the year 2020 at parties. Plus , of course, recaps of the Vanderpump Rules reunion part 2 and The Ultimatum: Queer Love!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is the director's cut episode for Mina's how do rich people actually dress? video, with explorations on hypergamy, cosplaying as poor, and a special interview with Amanda Mull on the mythology of quiet luxury! Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! SOURCES Changing patterns of conspicuous consumption: Media representations of luxury in second homes by Trudie Walters   African American Dress by Helen Bradley Foster The Structure of Indian Society: Then and Now By A.M. Shah Alimony panic, gold diggers, and the cultural foundations of early twentieth-century marriage reform in the United States by Brian L Donovan How the Great Recession influenced a decade of design How Do Recessions Impact Fashion Trends? Beyond the Hemline Index How 2 recessions changed what we wear Fashion trends in an uncertain economy | Reuters What is Recession Core? - FASHION Magazine Recession Core Just An Opportunity For Celebrities To Cosplay Being Poor If You Pay Attention to One Trend This Season, Make It “Quiet Luxury” Why do we buy into ‘stealth wealth' and the class who wear it? | Fashion | The Guardian Why the super-rich love understated dressing - BBC Culture There's Nothing Silent About Quiet Luxury The End of Hypergamy: Global Trends and Implications - PMC Sofia Richie Grainge and the Fantasy of the Young Rich Wife | Glamour The Female TikTokers Rebranding Gold-Digging As ‘Hypergamy' Justine Lupe on Willa, the Sex Worker Tied Up in ‘Succession' – Rolling Stone There's No Secret to How Wealthy People Dress The old black | Art | The Guardian I Tried Steve Jobs' Productivity Hack to Reduce My Decision Fatigue Fashion and the Evolving Vision of of Workwear | Grailed Carhartt Is the Uniform of Both the Right and the Left - Racked ‘Funny' and unreal: How blue-collar workers feel about workwear as fashion Written by Mina Le, Ella Gray, and Sophie Carter Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

Mina and guest of the pod Avery Trufelman discuss all things rich people fashion, American Ivy, Ralph Lauren mania, and trend predictions for the future. Check out Avery's podcast Articles of Interest and her accompanying Substack. Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Edited by Mina Le Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

This week's episodes: Pitch Black, High Brow, Head Trauma, and Taunted NOPE

Hey, lemme ask you something - what's your time cycle? This week we're talking THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES (2002), an atmospheric tour of high strangeness that isn't scary so much as, like, moody. Join us as Kelly tries desperately to remember details about Indrid Cold from books and podcasts she's read over the years but did not commit to memory! Also Chelea stuns and amazes as she waxes poetic about Chapstick, her one true love. Not sponsered - yet! Chapstick, get at us!! Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/NoShowMonster Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/noshowmonster/ Email us at noshowmonster@gmail.com Follow Kelly Attaway Twitter: https://twitter.com/kellyattaway Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/attawaykl/ Follow Chelsea Hollander lol SIKE you can't she's not online because she values her mental health and wellbeing  Show notes: Donate to wikipedia Mothmonsterman https://aqua-teen-hunger-force.fandom.com/wiki/Mothmonsterman Woody Derenberger interviews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HxY4suVjSo Haunted Objects podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-haunted-objects-podcast/id1652260827 Bridge collapse car miniatures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dT-UdJL4wM Next week we'll be joined by Kylan Savage, freelance musician and animator, as well as co-host of the podcast Church Jams Now!. We'll be talking about the absolutely BONKERS book Monster by Frank Peretti, a "horror" novel loosely focused on bigfoot, but the real horror is the evangelicals along the way. Hosted by Kelly Attaway and Chelsea Hollander Produced by Kelly Attaway Art by Ryan Tate Theme by Unicorn Heads  

In this episode, Mina reviews some of late April/early May's trending topics. Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Here was her reading list: The rise of dating vigilantism Meet the People Working 3 Jobs to Afford Erewhon FINDING EREWHON Celebrity Chef Reveals What She Gets A-List Clients in $1500 Erewhon Haul 'Cosplaying as rich people': Customers spend $80 in EBT at Erewhon 2023 Writers Guild of America Strike: What You Need to Know - The New York Times In past strikes, networks turned to reality TV. Now it's more complicated. Neil Gaiman on Tumblr George R.R. Martin Weighs In On The Writer's Strike (& Why He Hates Mini-Rooms) Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

In this director's cut episode, Mina taps into celeb "courtcore" aka the way that celebrities dress when appearing in the judicial court. In this special episode, she also dives further into history, starting with Joan of Arc and ending with contemporary films and the way characters are costumed for trial (e.g. Legally Blonde). Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Clothing | Joan of Arc | Jeanne-darc.info Primary Sources and Context Concerning Joan of Arc's Male Clothing Joan of Arc: A Life Transfigured by Kathryn Harrison Mary Queen of Scots by Antonia Fraser The Misgendering of Joan of Arc Mary, Queen of Scots, Became an Iconic Figure for Many Catholics Over the Centuries, Scholar Says Fatty Arbuckle and the Birth of the Celebrity Scandal | The New Yorker “Fatty's Wife's Smiles Lighten Grim Tragedy,” The Washington Times (1921) “Women Throng First Hearing of Arbuckle Case,” The New York Tribune (1921) What America will remember from Gwyneth Paltrow's ski crash trial - The Washington Post Courtroom Style: Gwyneth Paltrow, Winona Ryder, Lindsay Lohan and more's iconic outfits while on trial The most iconic celebrity courtroom outfits The Verdict on Winona's Clothes - The Washington Post Why Did She Do It? - TIME Naomi Campbell Shows the World How to Dress for Court Lindsay Lohan wears fancy pants to court. Who decides her attire? | EW.com In Court, Johnny Depp and Amber Heard Dress to Suggest - The New York Times Experts Decode Amber Heard's Suited Courtroom Looks Amber Heard accused of COPYING Johnny Depp's courtroom outfits: see similarities between ensembles | Daily Mail Online free" Winona From Faux Pas to Fashion Statement - Los Angeles Times https://www.facebook.com/wmagazine/photos/a.10166595114335004/10166627967380004/?type=3 Lindsay Lohan's 'F-You' a Joke, Says Lawyer...Then Quits | LAist Did Lindsay Lohan Write 'F*** U' on Her Fingernail for Her Probation Hearing? Cardi B Is Guilty... of the Best-Ever Celebrity Court Fashion Megan Thee Stallion sent a powerful message with the purple suit she wore to testify against Tory Lanez -- who's found guilty of shooting her, more courtroom fashion over the years | Gallery | Wonderwall.com How Should Gwyneth Paltrow Dress for Court? Our celebrity trial obsession sets a dangerous precedent American Trial Films and the Popular Culture of Law Case Study 4: Chicago (2002) – The Femme Fatale and the Distortion of Female Criminality Legally Blonde Fashion: Costume Designer Sophie de Rakoff on Elle's 'Signature Color' | EW.com Legally Blonde, Legally Fashionable: The Evolution of Elle Woods - The Art of Costume My Favourite Outfits In Legally Blonde – The Vault Publication Written by Mina Le, Ella Gray, and Sophie Carter Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

The director's cut version of Mina's The Life and Death of the Fashion Magazine video she published onto Youtube on Monday. In this expanded edition, she shares listener stories, gives proper shout-outs to some 20th century woman EICs, dives into indie zines, and talks with Mi-Anne Chan, senior director of programming and creative development at Conde Nast (ooooh fancy), who shares valuable insight on today's digital fashion magazine industry. Check out Mi-Anne's Mixed Feelings! Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! SOURCES “Fashion in the ‘Mercure': From Human Foible to Female Failing by Reed Benhamou Femininity and Consumption: The Problem of the Late Nineteenth-Century Fashion Journal by Christopher Breward ‘Making the Magazine': Visuality, Managerial Capitalism, and the Mass Production of Periodicals, 1865—1890 by Vanessa Meikle Schulman Reflecting and Shaping American Culture: Magazines Since World War II by David Abrahamson Hypervisibility and Invisibility of Female Haafu Models in Japan's Beauty Culture by Kaori Mori Want What Happened to 50 Magazines Since the Pandemic Began – WWD  Internet Crushes Traditional Media: From Print to Digital Seventeen print magazine moving to digital first: The era of the teen mag is over The Monthly Fashion Magazine Is No More Selling Style I: The History of Fashion Marketing Through the 19th Century | Wilson College of Textiles Fashion magazines: History of the biggest magazines - Vogue, ELLE & Co. - CM Models | Model Agency The Birth of Fashion Magazines - JSTOR Daily The Importance of Godey's Lady's Book on 19th c. Fashion History The Influence of Fashion Magazines The Evolution of Fashion Journalism from Print to Digital History Of Magazines | When Were The First Magazines Invented? The Gilded Age of Magazines | The Nation “Americana.” Time, February 3, 1930 Godey's Lady's Book in the Accessible Archives Godey's Lady's Audience: The Women of the Mid 19th Century – The History of the Book The Power of Community: On the Radical History of Women's Magazines Helen Gurley Brown: 10 Best Tips From ‘Sex and the Single Girl' Helen Gurley Brown and the Birth of the Cosmo Girl | The New Yorker Helen Gurley Brown dead: Assessing America's most puritanical wild woman The Magazine Business, From the Coolest Place to the Coldest One - The New York Times The Assistant Economy - Dissent Magazine Does the fashion industry still need Vogue in the age of social media? Women's magazines are dying. Will we miss them when they're gone? - The Washington Post America's print tabloid era is over The Death of Newspapers and Magazines - CBS News The Print Renaissance Celebrate Punk Zines With the Musicians Who Created Them | Smithsonian Voices Revolutionary PHL: Blankets, Beer, and Beef: Broadsides for Care of Military Bodies History of Amateur Journalism FIRE!! Devoted To Younger Negro Artists (1926) by POC Zine Project - Issuu Get To Know The Little Magazines of The Harlem Renaissance The Amazing Zines That Kicked Off Geek Fandom Xerox factor. The short-lived graphic energy of punk fanzines and posters. Music HerStory: Women, Zines, and Punk | Smithsonian Institution IS PRINT REALLY DEAD? HOW GEN-Z IS REVIVING ZINE CULTURE - CULTED Anna Wintour on the Future of Print, Hillary, and How She Feels About Her Reputation Written by Mina Le, Ella Gray, and Sophie Carter Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

The director's cut version of Mina's "let's discuss MLMs, Pyramid Schemes, and Grindset Culture video she published onto Youtube on Monday. In this expanded edition, she shares listener stories, debunks bogus claims by MLMs like Young Living, and talks with journalist Sophie Dickinson who wrote the ever informative "The 'Get Rich Quick' MLM Schemes Targeting Gen Z During Lockdown" article for Vice! Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Sources Multilevel Marketing: A Historical Perspective by William W. Keep and Peter Vander Nat (2013) Avon Products 1964-2014: The Slippery Slope of Direct Selling by William W. Keep (2015) Theorizing #Girlboss Culture: Mediated Neoliberal Feminisms from Influencers to Multi-Level Marketing Schemes by Frankie Mastrangelo (2021) The Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing By Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D., Consumer Awareness Institute Islamic Marketing: Understanding the Socio-Economic, Cultural, and Politico-Legal Environment (Management for Professionals) by Cedomir Nestorovic  The Rise and Fall of Albania's Pyramid Schemes by Christopher Jarvis Multi-Level Marketing Businesses and Pyramid Schemes The Story of Brownie Wise, the Ingenious Marketer Behind the Tupperware Party Tupperware Parties: Suburban Women's Plastic Path to Empowerment  Hey, Hun! In women's joblessness, multi-level marketers saw opportunity. The Story Behind the Mary Kay Pink Cadillac  ‘It's very culty': the bizarre billion-dollar downfall of fashion company LuLaRoe Do You Trust This Momfluencer? Good, Because She Has Something To Sell You Inside the influencer MLM that peddles more than just an Insta-perfect life The 'Get Rich Quick' MLM Schemes Targeting Gen Z During Lockdown  Where Working Women Are Most Common 10 reasons Mormons dominate multi-level marketing companies Follow the profit: How Mormon culture made Utah a hotbed for multi-level marketers Amazon Docuseries LuLaRich Breaks Down the Chaotic Story of Deception Behind Multilevel Marketing Company LuLaRoe  These Women Say An Essential Oil MLM Has Been Taken Over By Satan. Yes, Really. How Essential Oils Became the Cure for Our Age of Anxiety FTC Takes Action Against doTERRA Distributors for False COVID-19 Health Claims What You Should Know about Youngevity Multilevel Marketing Companies Are Cashing In on the Crisis Latinos crucial to Herbalife's financial health  Written by Mina Le, Ella Gray, and Sophie Carter Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

Mina welcomes friend of the pod, Rian Phin, to chat about cultivating your own identity/aesthetic, being part of a subculture, the perilous state of fashion archiving, our unhealthy(???) usage of social media, the old money mystique, and more! Rian Phin is a fashion writer, theorist, and content creator. You can find her on TikTok, Youtube, Twitter, and Instagram. This is the TikTok video we discuss briefly. Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

In this episode, Mina explores some of the discussions that came up in February and March: aestheticizing failure as a woman, HBO's The Idol, sex scenes in tv shows, and how censorship and AI are affecting society's relationship to sex and companionship. Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Here was her reading list: All hail the girlfailure by Roison Lanigan Why are so many people rewatching Girls? by Callie Holtermann What Rewatching Old Shows Teaches Us about Ourselves by Allie Volpe 'The Idol': How HBO's Next 'Euphoria' Became Twisted 'Torture Porn' by Cheyenne Roundtree Are Sex-Negative ‘Puriteens' Actually Taking Over the Internet? By EJ Dickinson Penn Badgley Goes Deeper on Swearing Off Racy ‘You' Sex Scenes: ‘That Aspect of Hollywood Has Been Very Disturbing' by Kate Arthur Hundreds of sexual deepfake ads using Emma Watson's face ran on Facebook and Instagram in the last two days by Kat Tenbarge When It Comes to OnlyFans, Humans Can Outcompete AI by Lux Alptraum Replika's Companion Chat Bot Reportedly Loses the Sex and Leaves Fans Despondent by Nikki Main Italy bans U.S.-based AI chatbot Replika from using personal data by Elvira Pollina and Martin Coulter Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

For this episode, Mina revisits an old video she made on the history of dieting, supplemented (no pun intended) with more information, listener stories, and an interview with Dr. Katharina Vester, culture historian and professor at American University. Keep up with High Brow on Instagram! Subscribe to the Patreon! and keep up with Mina on Youtube, Instagram, and Tiktok! Sources: Regime change: Gender, class, and the invention of dieting in post-bellum America by Katharina Vester From Robust Appetites to Calorie Counting: The Emergence of Dieting among Smith College Students in the 1920s by Margaret A. Lowe The Progressive Era Body Project: Calorie-Counting and “Disciplining the Stomach” in 1920s America by Chin Jou Dieting in the Long Sixties: Constructing the Identity of the Modern American Dieter by Nancy Gagliardi Slimming One's Way to a Better Self? Weight Loss Clubs and Women in Britain, 1967–1990 by Katrina-Louise Moseley “Lose Like a Man”: Gender and the Constraints of Self-Making in Weight Watchers Online by Emily Contois Fasting Girls: A History of Anorexia by Joan Jacobs Brumberg Holy Anorexia by Rudolph M. Bell History in the Comic Mode: Medieval Communities and the Matter of Person by Rachel Fulton and Bruce W. Holsinger An examination of the imposture of Ann Moore, called the fasting woman, of Tutbury: illustrated by remarks on other cases of real and pretended abstinence by Alexander Henderson America's First Amphetamine Epidemic 1929–1971 by Nicholas Rasmussen The return of rainbow diet pills by Pieter A. Cohen, Alberto Goday & John P. Swann  A Speedy History of America's Addiction to Amphetamine Saint Wilgefortis: a bearded woman with a queer history How slimming became an obsession for women in post-war Britain by Myriam Wilks-Heeg Kids' Sugar Cravings Might Be Biological  5 Food Myths You Should Stop Believing Anorexia Mirabilis: Fasting in Victorian England and modern India The Jacob Case Breatharian Website Cult that shuns food shaken by reports leader is eating Breatharian Leader Wiley Brooks Lives On Light, Air, And Quarter Pounders Written by Mina Le, Ella Gray, and Sophie Carter Edited by Sophie Carter Music by Olivia Martinez Cover by Lindsay Mintz 

Carolina and Devin walk us through their high brows (literature and film) to their midbrows (Devin's new roommate who scratches her) to their low brows, which brings them to discuss Kathryn Dennis's departure from Bravo, MILF Manor on TLC, and the dregs of reality television. Also, Carolina walks us through highlights from Prince Harry's memoir, and the women talk about what to look for in a partner (Revolutionary).See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Are Europeans more sophisticated than Americans? What's wrong with preferring Taylor Swift to Puccini? And is Steve Levitt “Team Edward” or “Team Jacob”?

Jay Williams and Monica McNutt return in this episode to debate Anthony Davis' place in the NBA hierarchy... when he's healthy. Heisman winners Desmond Howard and Robert Griffin III are here to pick their early favorites in this year's Heisman race and argue which team could win their first national title this season. Mario Cristobal joins the show with his reaction to Desmond's pick and talks about his return to his Alma Mater as the Hurricane's new Head Coach. Bart Scott is back to react to the Madden cornerback ratings reveal and discuss where Dak Prescott fits in his Top-10 QB list this season. Plus, we salute our own Dick Vitale for receiving the Jimmy V Award for Perseverance at last night's ESPYs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices