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It's taken too long to get prominent retro podcaster and archivist  @KaySavetz  (ANTIC, Eaten By a Grue, Internet Archive, and more) on the show! On this bonus-sized episode Kay joins Dave and Jason as we take a deeper look at 1990s nostalgia and the loss of multi-format cover art giant Philip Castle, and chart the dramatic rise and hard fall of Iomega's Zip drives. And for the sake of equal time, Kay presents a news brief involving source code hidden away on SyQuest media. All this, your picks for a gaming industry legend you'd like to spend an hour with, and more in This Week in Retro 262! You can check out the ANTIC podcast here: https://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/ Visit https://www.addict.media/ for your copy of Pixel Addict magazine. 00:00 - Show Opening 04:24 -  Elite Box Art Was Elite Story Link: https://x.com/DavidBraben/status/2035665737449107849 17:33 - Media Giants Of The Past Story Link: https://hackaday.com/2026/03/24/from-zip-to-nought-the-rise-and-fall-of-iomega/ 32:42 - Housekeeping - News links found below 48:45 - I Wish It Was The 90s - Or Do I? Story Link: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/mar/22/young-people-are-longing-for-the-low-tech-90s-and-so-would-i-if-i-could-only-remember-them Additional Link: https://www.theguardian.com/games/2026/mar/27/retro-rewind-video-rental-retail-sim 01:01:10 - Community Question of the Week

professorjrod@gmail.comStorage didn't just get bigger; it got personal. We rewind to the late '90s and early 2000s to unpack the clash between Iomega's Zip drive and the laser-lit world of the CD—two formats that taught a generation how to back up, carry, and truly own their data. From the pain of 30‑floppy installs to the thrill of dropping a 700 MB burn into a jewel case, we dig into what made each medium take off, where they stumbled, and why their lessons still shape how we save files today.We start with the super floppy dreams behind Zip 100—engineering choices, bold “Click. Zip. Done.” marketing, and the way creatives, students, and IT teams built daily workflows around blue drives and rugged cartridges. Then we confront the trust crisis of the “click of death,” the lawsuits and lost archives, and how fast‑rising alternatives—CD‑ROM, cheaper external hard drives, and the first USB sticks—changed the game. Along the way, we share real‑world snapshots: college labs checking out Zip disks like library cards, E3 press kits living on cartridges, and NASA quietly slotting Zip into space for portable transfer.Next, lasers take center stage. We chart the CD's leap from digital audio to data with 650–700 MB per disc, the fall in drive costs, and the cultural surge fueled by Myst, Encarta, and Wing Commander. CD‑R and CD‑RW flipped the script by giving anyone the power to publish, archive, and share—burning playlists, handing off portfolios, and shipping software at scale. We revisit the AOL CD blitz, the DVD capacity boom, and the slow fade of optical drives as broadband, flash storage, and cloud sync took over. Through it all, a throughline emerges: good storage changes behavior. When saving is simple, people back up. When media is portable, they create and share more.By the end, you'll see why Zip and CD were more than formats—they were habits, rituals, and signals of identity in an era when data became a part of daily life. Hit play, ride the nostalgia, and take away practical lessons on redundancy, media reliability, and the tradeoffs behind every storage shift. If this brought back memories of your first burn or the dreaded click, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review to keep the conversation going.Support the showIf you want to help me with my research please e-mail me.Professorjrod@gmail.comIf you want to join my question/answer zoom class e-mail me at Professorjrod@gmail.comArt By Sarah/DesmondMusic by Joakim KarudLittle chacha ProductionsJuan Rodriguez can be reached atTikTok @ProfessorJrodProfessorJRod@gmail.com@Prof_JRodInstagram ProfessorJRod

In this episode of the Industrial IoT Spotlight podcast, Erik Walenza of IoT ONE hosts Mike McCamon from the NFC Forum to explore the future of NFC technology. We explore how IoT device manufacturers are collaborating to drive the rapid development of NFC standards and technical capabilities. These efforts led to the NFC Forum's recent release of its next gen technology development roadmap, which includes power harvesting, range extension, device-to- device connectivity, multi-tap use cases, and digital product passports for sustainability. Mike shares his vision for the potential of NFC beyond payments, such as in access control for building and data sharing between IoT devices. He also shares critical challenges yet to overcome, such as the need for improved user experience and range to simplify the design process for OEMs.   Five elements of the NFC Forum's technology development roadmap: power harvesting, range extension, device-to-device connectivity, multi-tap use cases, and digital product passports Potential applications of NFC technology beyond payment transactions, including access control, digital keys, and business card exchanges NFC's role in car connectivity and potential use in tracking high-value items through blockchain technology Disruption of QR code-based payment systems by NFC technology in retail environments   About Mike McCamon   Mike McCamon is a seasoned technology executive with over 30 years of experience in the tech industry. He is currently the Executive Director of the NFC Forum, an industry association dedicated to advancing NFC, standards and use cases. Under his leadership, the NFC Forum has grown to include over 300 member companies from all over the world.  Demonstrating a wide range of skills and passions he has been both the inaugural executive director of the Bluetooth Special Interest Group and later on the executive team that launched Water.org. He also led high-growth teams at Apple, Iomega, Intel and several startups. He is a frequent speaker and author on technology and social impact topics.   About the NFC Forum The NFC Forum, established in 2004, is a non-profit industry association comprised of leading mobile communications, semiconductor, and consumer electronics companies. Its mission is to advance the use of Near Field Communication technology by developing specifications, ensuring interoperability, and educating the market about NFC technology. The NFC Forum's global member companies share skills, technical expertise and industry knowledge to develop specifications and protocols for interoperable data exchange, device-independent service delivery, and device capability. Forum's supporting certification program and user marks enhance and promote a consistent, reliable, seamless and secure NFC user experience. To learn more about joining the Forum, visit https://nfc-forum.org/

Mark L . Fox is an entrepreneur, scientist, engineer, author, creative thinking consultant, crop formation researcher, and former rocket scientist. Hot Air Balloonist for 35 years, and built his own airplane. Inventor of VIBE, the world's only “Pocket” Pulsed Electromagnetic Field (PEMF) device. Founder of Resona.Health and inventor of several medical devices. These devices are affordable consumer products that use Resonance Frequency Therapy for the most common ailments in people and pets. Pain, PTSD, ADD/ADHD, Cold Sores, Shingles, Depression, Arthritis, and 20+ other ailments. Author of “Da Vinci and the 40 Answers”, a Playbook for creativity and fresh ideas. Owner of Sly as a Fox, LLC a business consulting company. Invented multiple DNA based products/businesses: Drug testing DNA matching and a medical marketing company. Invented music and art from DNA. Consulted with over 100 companies on product, operations, and business development. Owned and grew a women's designer clothing company 1000% in 18 months. Current board member and former chairman of the board for the Wizard Academy, the leading marketing and communication school for small business. Currently working on multiple inventions and business start-ups. Vice President of e-Business responsible for all Internet operations at Iomega. Program manager for all Boeing flight and landing gear actuators including 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777 aircraft at Parker Hannifin. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/happinessjourney/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/happinessjourney/support

In this episode of the IoT For All Podcast, Mike McCamon, Executive Director of the NFC Forum, joins Ryan Chacon to discuss what NFC means for IoT. Mike talks about the NFC Forum's mission to make NFC technology work seamlessly with mobile phones and wearables. He gives insights into the different modes of NFC and how they enhance user experiences. He also discusses emerging use cases in car keys and digital product passports, NFC's role in power harvesting and sustainability, and the NFC Forum's future plans to extend NFC range and capabilities. Mike McCamon is a seasoned technology executive with over 30 years of experience in the tech industry. He is currently Executive Director of NFC Forum, an industry association dedicated to advancing NFC standards and use cases. He has been both the inaugural executive director of the Bluetooth Special Interest Group and part of the executive team that launched Water.org. He also led high-growth teams at Apple, Iomega, Intel, and several startups. NFC Forum, established in 2004, is a non-profit industry association comprised of leading mobile communications, semiconductor, and consumer electronics companies, including Apple, Google, Huawei, Identiv, Infineon, NXP, Qualcomm, Sony, and STMicroelectronics. Its mission is to advance the use of Near Field Communication (NFC) technology by developing specifications, ensuring interoperability, and educating the market about NFC technology. NFC Forum's global member companies share skills, technical expertise and industry knowledge to develop specifications and protocols for interoperable data exchange, device-independent service delivery, and device capability. NFC Forum's supporting certification program and user marks enhance and promote a consistent, reliable, seamless and secure NFC user experience. Discover more about NFC and IoT at https://www.iotforall.com More about NFC Forum: https://nfc-forum.org Connect with Mike: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mccamon/ (00:00) Intro (00:10) Mike McCamon and NFC Forum (00:58) Matt Damon connection (01:25) Understanding the NFC Forum and its role (03:25) What is NFC? (06:43) Applications of NFC technology in IoT (09:39) Future impact of NFC in IoT (12:58) NFC and sustainability in IoT (16:38) NFC Forum's future roadmap (19:37) Learn more about NFC Forum SUBSCRIBE TO THE CHANNEL: https://bit.ly/2NlcEwm​ Join Our Newsletter: https://www.iotforall.com/iot-newsletter Follow Us on Social: https://linktr.ee/iot4all Check out the IoT For All Media Network: https://www.iotforall.com/podcast-overview

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Kels was born in Richmond, Virginia and raised in South Texas. His love has always been in Film Production. He worked throughout the 1990's technically on Hollywood productions that came to Utah, including “Touched by an Angel”, “:Halloween 6” and “Species”. He then moved over to corporate video and worked with companies such as Novell, Iomega, Franklin Covey and Young Living. In 2002 he produced and distributed the LDS Film Handcart to 50 theaters. In 2005, he worked for Blendtec and produced the famous Will it Blend campaign for 10 years, which garnered over half a billion views and became one of the most successful viral marketing campaigns of the time. This, in turn grew sales for Blendtec upward of 100 million dollars. Recently, he directed a made-for-TV archaeological series called Hidden in the Heartland and a feature-length documentary on the 1980's band, The Jets called The Jets: Making It Real. Kels, along with his wife Stephanie are the former owners of the LDS Film Festival.

Kels was born in Richmond, Virginia and raised in South Texas. His love has always been in Film Production. He worked throughout the 1990's technically on Hollywood productions that came to Utah, including “Touched by an Angel”, “:Halloween 6” and “Species”. He then moved over to corporate video and worked with companies such as Novell, Iomega, Franklin Covey and Young Living. In 2002 he produced and distributed the LDS Film Handcart to 50 theaters. In 2005, he worked for Blendtec and produced the famous Will it Blend campaign for 10 years, which garnered over half a billion views and became one of the most successful viral marketing campaigns of the time. This, in turn grew sales for Blendtec upward of 100 million dollars. Recently, he directed a made-for-TV archaeological series called Hidden in the Heartland and a feature-length documentary on the 1980's band, The Jets called The Jets: Making It Real. Kels, along with his wife Stephanie are the former owners of the LDS Film Festival.

The Windows 11 Start menu differs quite a bit in appearance from Windows 10. Those who want to manipulate Start in Windows 11 manually can use the same procedures that worked in Windows 10, but you don't have to. Windows 11 Start finally gets this operation right. In Short Circuits: Anyone who owns a Windows computer has at least one disk drive that's formatted as NTFS, but is this the right file system for other connected devices? • I'm a fan of utility applications. Recently I encountered System Ninja, which appears deceptively simple but comes with a lot of power even though it's free. In Spare Parts (only on the website): The governor of Missouri says he wants to sue the St. Louis Post-Dispatch because the newspaper alerted the state to a security problem and then printed the story. • Shoppers are worried that supply chain and delivery delays will create problems with holiday gifts this year, so some started shopping in early October. • Twenty years ago: Iomega's high-capacity backup disks were hot, but the market was about to start cooling.

Quizmasters Lee and Marc are joined by Sadie to ask, suss and answer a general knowledge quiz with topics including Lyrics, Computer Lingo, Household Items, Human Anatomy, Classic Television, Condiments, Capital Cities, Herpetology, Stand-Up Comedy, Baseball, American Behavior, Pop Culture, Animals, Inventions, Bowling and more! Round One LYRICS - "I want to sell what you're buying, I wanna feel on your ass in Hawaii, I want that jet lag from fuckin' and flyin', Shoot a child in your mouth while I'm ridin'" are lyrics to a top 10 song by who? COMPUTER LINGO - What kind of floppy disk drive was introduced in 1994 by Iomega and boasted 100MB of storage per disk? HOUSEHOLD ITEMS - What household item were originally called "Baby Gays"? HUMAN ANATOMY - In what organ of the human body would you find "The Loops of Henley"? CLASSIC TELEVISION - Mario Lopez, Eric Balfour, Jennifer Love Hewitt and Fergie were cast members on what musical children's TV show, which ran for 9 seasons beginning in 1984? HUMAN ANATOMY - Which part of your body secretes about 1/4 cup of liquid each day? Missed Corrections 149 - Michael Jackson was still with the Jackson 5 when Blame It On The Boogie was released in 1979. 150 - Frank Sinatra is considered to be a “Classic Hollywood” actor. Lionel Barrymore was born Lionel Blythe. Clark Gable is not a fictitious name. John Wayne’s real name is Marion Robert Morrison. Round Two HUMAN ANATOMY - Which part of your body secretes about 1/4 cup of liquid each day? RUSSIAN LANGUAGE - Smetana is the Russian term for what popular condiment? CAPITAL CITIES - Vilnius is the capital of what Baltic-area European country? HERPETOLOGY - According to experts in the field, at least half of all snakebite victims have what in common? STAND-UP COMEDY - Who were the four stand-up comedians featured in the 2000 Spike Lee movie The Kings of Comedy? Rate My Question POP MUSIC - With a music career spanning 29 years to date, what pop band has a member who also had a musical side project called Tinted Windows with members from Smashing Pumpkins and Cheap Trick and also developed a beer that is named after their most popular song? Final Questions POP MUSIC - With a music career spanning 29 years to date, what pop band has a member who also had a musical side project called Tinted Windows with members from Smashing Pumpkins and Cheap Trick and also developed a beer that is named after their most popular song? ANIMALS - What critter regularly makes a seven gallon poop pile? INVENTIONS - Dulcimer was the codename for what invention released in 2001? BOWLING - Inspiring the name of a popular candy, what historical lawn game is a target sport from which the modern sport of bowling is descended? Upcoming LIVE Know Nonsense Trivia Challenges May 26th, 2021 - Know Nonsense Trivia Challenge - Point Ybel Brewing Co. - 7:30 pm EST May 27th, 2021 - Quizmania: Pro-Wrestling Trivia - Ollies Pub Records and Beer - 7:00 pm EST You can find out more information about that and all of our live events online at KnowNonsenseTrivia.com All of the Know Nonsense events are free to play and you can win prizes after every round. Thank you Thanks to our supporters on Patreon. Welcome: Proverbial Lightkeeper Nabeel Proverbial Lightkeeper Patrick Team Captain Jenny Thank you, Quizdaddies – Kyle, Tommy (The Electric Mud) and Tim (Pat's Garden Service) Thank you, Team Captains – Dylan, Shaun, Lydia, Gil, David, Aaron, Kristen & Fletcher Thank you, Proverbial Lightkeepers – Jon, Adam, Ryan, Mollie, Lisa, Alex, Spencer, Kaitlynn, Manu, Mo, Matthew, Luc, Hank, Justin, Cooper, Elyse, Sarah, Karly, Kristopher, Josh, Lucas Thank you, Rumplesnailtskins – Alex, Doug, Kevin and Sara, Tiffany, Allison, Paige, We Do Stuff, Mike S., Kenya, Jeff, Eric, Steven, Efren, Mike J., Mike C. If you'd like to support the podcast and gain access to bonus content, please visit http://theknowno.com and click "Support." Special Guest: Sadie.

Po dvoudílné křížové výpravě do historie procesorů (první díl a druhý díl) se Michal Rybka zaměřuje na historii a problematiku uchování dat pro opětovné použití. Cesta jedniček a nul na záznamovém médiu se táhne skrz bezmála celé 20. století a zavede nás k historickým omylům i objevům, které se podepsaly na nárůstu kapacity a trvanlivosti záznamových médií. A nebude to krátká cesta, Michal vás po ní bude provázet celých 70 minut! Možná vás překvapí, že záznam na pásky neleží v truhle tři metry pod zemí, ale stále je využíván jako jeden z nejspolehlivějších způsobů pro zálohování. Anebo, že SSDčka jsou v našich počítačích sice prima, ale v cloudovém prostoru stále kralují klasické pevné disky. Vrátíme se k produktům IOmega, k minidiscu od Sony a dojde i na spekulace nad odpovědí na tradiční otázku: Jak dlouho nám ty datové nosiče vydrží, pane Majere? Kde všude najdete podcasty Retro Nation? Anchor Spotify Apple Podcasts Google Podcasts Overcasts Pocket Casts Radio Public RSS Anchoru pro vaše podcastové aplikace RSS Patreonu pro vaše podcastové aplikace O podcastech Retro Nation Wolfcast je série ohlédnutí za historickým hardwarem i hrami. Novinář a spisovatel Michal Rybka se sbírání historického hardwaru a informací o jeho vývoji věnuje celoživotně. Michal je kurátorem Alza Muzea a spolupracovníkem PCTuning.cz. Wolfcast vychází 2x měsíčně. Pravidelně se střídá s Retro Notami od hudebního publicisty Jardy Konáše. Jednoduše řečeno: 2x měsíčně vychází Retro noty, 2x měsíčně Wolfcast. Občas do toho přiskočí rozhovor Pavla Dobrovského s lidmi od her v sérii Talk to... Nové i starší podcasty najdete na výše uvedených odkazech vždy v pondělí. Podcasty a další obsah RetroNation.cz můžeme natáčet kvůli podpoře od komunity na Patreonu. Děkujeme vám za ni! Jakékoliv dotazy a připomínky pište na email retronationrulez@gmail.com

IMPORTANT NOTE: due to Dave not paying attention, the networking event this month is on the 23rd at Detroit City Distillery.  We know, it’s always 3rd Thursday… he screwed up, it’s a thing, move on.  That being said, tonight we’re joined by Caston Thomas to chat about our recent appearance on the Internet Advisor show, as well as an upcoming seminar series he’s doing about securing iOT devices and networks that you probably want to pay attention to… Happy patch Tuesday. This a special recording of the IT in the D show recording a day late. But that’s all right. We’ve got a special guest in the studio Caston Thomas in the house. We’re going to be talking about all of the fun stuff that you, a and security that we just got off on. WJR to go home and home are thrilling experience on am radio. Yeah, yeah. We were talking about that and talking about security and property security. Uh, you know what, Dave, you may fire when ready going on. Thanks for hanging out. This is the one and only it in the D show. Broadcasting live here in studio three and podcast. He traded beautiful Royal Oak. Michigan has chaos. May have it happens. They say, is Bob the sales guy? That was Dave the geek. Randy. I do. The Twitters is doing the Twitters. Find a some ways. Find us online it in the D. dot com. Do us a favor, give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold. And so because I’m an idiot and I freely own it and I admit it. Uh, so the meetup for this month was not set up for the third Thursday. It was set up for the fourth Thursday. So it is not this Thursday. It is next Thursday, the 23rd. Uh, it will be at Detroit city distillery. Come on out. Hang. Should be a fun night. Love the venue. Love the liquor. It’s a good time. I’m not gonna lie, it’s big coming. Extremely difficult to book a venue in this town. It is, and we’ve talked about this for two years now. We’re like, you know, places that, you know, we went for, you know, six, seven, eight years when nobody cared about them and nobody went there. All of a sudden now they want, they got the a, they got the no, because they’ve got somebody booked a holiday play there and now they think everybody’s got 1000 bucks an hour. My ass Russell, they booked an M and M video and how they think they can get top dollar, but like I called a, it’s a new retro bowling alley in Royal Oak. That’s shall not be named that has pull in the name. Um, I’m only like 200 bucks an hour just to show up. No food. No, I’m good. Thanks. It’s kind of like, Hey, and I said, we can always just crash a joint. Right? Yeah. But I don’t want to do that because then we, you know, the people ask, the thing is you need to have buy in from the front desk. Like, Hey, I’m here for it in the day. True. Whoa. What? Yeah. Um, so like I go, Hey, there’s going to be like 30 to 50 and flash mobs or so, 2001 we don’t, do they need to die? Well, they know. I say this is the way I set it up. I go, we don’t charge because here’s the thing, I can understand what the venue is when you charge. Like, Hey, I’m going to use your 50 bucks to walk in the door and then I charge you 20 bucks. Like kiss my ass. Yeah. But I’m saying, Hey, we don’t charge cover. We don’t take sponsors. There’s no speakers. Everyone’s on their own for food and whatever they want to order. Um, we just need someplace to hang out. Yeah. Okay. It’ll be 200 bucks an hour. Like for, for, for, for what? Bye-bye. Yeah, exactly. Cause you’re so crowded on a random Thursday night that you can’t use the additional business, you know, then smell you in the window. You know, if you’re, if you’re, if you know someone that’s a bar owner, like literally that would want us reach out to us. Please. We’re glad to hear about it. These phone calls, it’s ridiculous. Like, or we’ll just keep doing all of our events at whiskey in the jar. It’ll be that simple. We’ll just be there every, we don’t have, do we have friends at Ember anymore? No. No. Rusty’s still there. Rusty’s, you’re going to pork around. Um, uh, I don’t know. Maybe I just don’t like that venue that I think it’s, you know, nobody plays pinball, but it’s just cool to have them in the background. Exactly. It’s a fun spot. I’m sure we can find someplace. So the baby, I mean it’s not anywhere convenient, but like dude, that arcade place and Frazier would like cut off their arm to have us come to that. Yeah. And speaking of that like major magic is making a comeback. They are, they’re right there. Right around the corner from me. Here’s an interesting, I never really, I don’t think I ever talked to you about this. Um, when major magics said they were coming back and I happened to pop up my note on, on LinkedIn or Facebook saying, Hey, you know, invested in a brewery in the past didn’t work out. I see you’re coming back. Want to know what you’re doing with it. You wanted to see if you wanted to like maybe adult it. Yeah. Make major magics you know, for the nostalgia crowd. I mean Chuck E cheese serves beer. Yeah. And he’s like, what’s your intention? Like it was really bizarre conversation. Like, I wish I saved it. I wish you could read it. And I’m like, ah, I just want to talk to you. Like maybe we can have a cup of coffee. Well, what, what do you want out of it? Well, I know how much you were looking to. I go, I don’t know what it is yet or what it wants to be, and I can’t really give you a business proposal when nothing’s, I’m not just sitting here on a bag of money looking to do something with like [inaudible] furnace here. I’ve already done that once. That’s why we don’t own a brewery anymore. But then low and behold, maybe like six months ago, four months ago, he’s like, Hey, are you still interested in? And I’m like, ah, ignore like you’re such a weirdo. Like I didn’t want nothing. So now apparently it’s opening in like Chesterfield or something. No, dude, it’s right around the corner from me. Oh, it’s on, it’s on gross back. It’s 15 and gross back. It’s in. So do you remember the, there was the taco bell, there was the abandoned taco bell and then the other building. So the, it’d be a crime. Yeah. So the other building was the old Riviera restaurant and that’s where they was the Ram’s horn. That was the, it was a, it’s called Riviera. No, but it was a rent like long time ago, back in the old taste back when I was dragging the day when I hung out on the East side when I was stumbling at a chaplains and went to get French toast. Uh, ya know, so that’s, yeah apparently in there, I think they’re opening in February if I recall correctly. Like not too long from now. They’re probably just, they pay you. The thing is it’s probably going to be just a Barcade and he’s got like six of the stupid dolls and he’s going to set them up. No, apparently it’s again I’m just going off the articles I read in that kind of stuff cause I was, I was curious cause I like I’ve heard you guys, cause it wasn’t here when I was here, but I’ve heard you guys talk about it enough that I’m just curious to grasp it next to the star theater. And apparently like everything that was in that old one was put into storage and they have pulled everything out of storage and, and loaded up the place except for like skee-ball and like, it smelled like, was like jeepers, it smells like feet and piss. Like it’s not theirs. They should just call it that. Phoenix. Nice pizza. That’s actually probably a website. I’m quite sure. Smell the feet and Piz pizza then in the tokens. Um, but Hey, jumping in, uh, obviously today was patched today. We’re, we’re recording on Tuesday. If you haven’t figured that out yet, today’s patch Tuesday. And if you’re working in a data center tomorrow, it’s gonna be patch Wednesday. What’s, you know what, I’m just gonna throw this out there. Can we talk about the windows? Windows 10 flaw for 10 seconds? Sure. Yeah, I know. Right? So here’s this. No, this is, to me, this is interesting because the NSA came out with this and the NSA hasn’t done this in the past. The NSA has held things for themselves. So apparently there is a pretty wicked windows 10 security patch. Uh, they just basically can expose users to surveillance or, uh, I believe it’s with authentication. Yep. Um, but it’s funny that back in the day, uh, they did, they did not, they held it back. They, they used it because they wanted that access. Right. So, you know, uh, wanna cry an external blue, uh, basically NSA exploited those for years and didn’t say shit. Um, they basically, they develop hacking tools to exploit these holes. Um, and then they gave them to, or they were then found by Russian hacker groups called shadow brokers. Um, eternal blue still use to this day. Well and I think we all know that when we do something fine, but when the Russians do it, no, nah, no, no. Um, but apparently no, this was a even like at work, this is a big deal where it’s all hands on deck first thing in the morning. Uh, security teams, all the server teams. Um, you know, this is, yeah, this is like all hands on deck. So yeah, if you’re in a data center and, uh, you know, tomorrow should be fun. Hey, I mean Sam a broadcaster just updated and added a new notepad function. So, I mean that was pretty cool cause that’s something that everyone’s been dying for. I’m just dried mouse. No to like add notes while you’re, cause you don’t have notepad or WordPad or anything on the computer. You’re running it on, you need a notepad in the stupid, just stupid. Speaking of that, there was um, I was thinking, I don’t know why I think this is funny all the time, but they did doodle for Google. Yeah. And you can, um, so here’s the thing. I don’t know why this is funny. So here’s the thing. I work, we have a thing at work called brilliant ideas and people could submit a brilliant idea and it goes in front of a panel and they either move forward with it and it could be something really simple. Like, Hey, we should do a dial by extension, not by name. Like, or you know what I mean, or whatever. Gotcha. Or five extent, um, or spelled my name anyway, the new hotness now is to do something completely the stupidest thing you could possibly think of and to get the politest answer back. Um, so now, now it’s all about getting eyeballs. So now they have this thing doodle for Google and they want, you have to enter a doodle and then it might get used as a logo. And so I want to do a Dick button. So what you want to or you already have? Cause I haven’t because no I’ve been to be looking at like the butt cheeks. The O’s. No. Oh see rainy. That’s why. That’s why I bring it up. I need better ideas. So there’ll be a panel, there’ll be someone on a panel at Google that is going to get a Dick. But with butt cheeks, his owes that they have to go. Thank you for your submission. I was like I don’t like dragging the Dick boy decided to go in another direction. Oh you know what, I don’t think it doesn’t meet our community standards. Right. You get the nice little legal ease and I don’t without the Wiener too cause I just want the O’s. Cause if the, you know, cause there’s usually a winner in the Dick pot in the back part. Just put little dots on the O’s and make it Google part of Dick buck. Yes. So just, just, but I want him Unix. Yeah. I don’t like drug cause we always got a unit that’s a concerto, you know, come and cut. Don’t know why. It always makes me laugh. Oh my God, this was on a whiteboard next to like the hotel desk with like a dry erase board with markers. Like who thinks while a comic con is going on and people are getting just falling down drunk, let’s leave the markers on the white board overnight. So every time in the morning, I mean giant Dick blended. So I would have to go erase it. And I tried again. I sorta like, Oh I know you did. I don’t know. Like seriously, I’m 46 years old and I still go to friends houses that have alphabets on their fridge and I still have to spell hard. Like I can’t not pass those things by the inner 11 year old game is strong indeed. Indeed. But doodle for Google if you haven’t seen it. Um, let’s do, let’s do a bunch of Dick butts submissions. I’m game all the artists listening. Hello Eric. UTRs. Yeah, you guys all, we’ll talk. We’ll totally rally the troops. So I don’t mind a more serious, serious note. Uh, the deep fake stuff just started. And if they’re kind of creepy and there’s other videos, like when people doing impersonations and they kind of deep fake the face. And then we saw some other stuff with George Lucas. I don’t know that it’s started it like, it’s not that it just started, it just started getting a lot better, right? Words unnoticeable. Well now Facebook announces it’s going to ban deep fakes, but it won’t ban political ads, fake news, any place like it, it’ll let that, well, whatever. Um, and how are they going to know? Well, first thing I said was, cause the whole point of deep fakes is that it’s hard to tell, strengthen his policy towards misleading, manipulated videos. But like again, how do you know it’s like the Joe Rogan when they cut up his pot, the podcast, and he was talking about, uh, gorillas being the, the alter monkeys being the greatest. No, dude, that wasn’t, they didn’t cut it up. That was the AI that generated that. I know. I thought they’d like clipped his voice. No, that was the AI that Lake listened to all of his episodes and then generated a new episode from them all his claims. Right, right. But how can you like, Nope, it’s fake. Like, and that was a thing you couldn’t tell Joe Rogan’s vote. There was like one, like an inflection was weird, but if you do, if you put some time into it, it would sound completely flawless. We’ll do that one with George Lucas. Uh, reacting to the latest movie was his head looked a little weird. Like you could tell something was wrong, but if you’re just sitting there listening to it and only half ass watching it, it looked legit. Or if you scroll down in Facebook puts the little window up in the corner where you just see like three pixels of the video or whatever, but they won’t pull down videos that are, you know, the easy way edited. You know, where if you just slow down the video a little bit to make it seem like a politician is slurring her. Yeah, they won’t pull that down cause that’s not high tech enough of a video. Well I never forget how they do it with pictures. Like I’ll never forget the picture I went like you can see Trump does enough dumb stuff on his own where you don’t need to manipulate him doing dumb stuff usually true. And him and like him and his wife and the Obamas or like going to dinner or going into a thing and Trump rushed front and opened the door for everyone and then walked in last. Okay. Well the picture was, you know, Trump walks like bully, like walked in first and he’s rude like he’s not a gentleman. Well then if you watch the video, like he held the door open and then walked in last and it’s like, it’s out of context. Well that time, by that point it gets to Buzzfeed and it becomes a thing. And if you Google it now, you’d probably, Randy, if you like, if you Google, you’ll probably find that like Trump doesn’t open door for Obama’s and it’s probably, it’s like, I’m sure. Well, like so like, so you’re banning deep pigs but you’re not banning fake political edge. You’re not banning. Yeah, like propaganda, like bullshit. Like where do you draw and who again and how do you, like I said, how are you going to figure out if they’re fake or not? It’s the river. It’s booger yelling and revenge there. It’s too. And who determines the standards? Well, send it. Remember? Do I remember correct? Elected board? No, dude. Remember I got to think it was two years ago we were talking about, okay, so it’s easy enough to fake audio clips. What’s it going to take to prove somebody actually said something? Oh, well video. All right. Now that’s not the answer anymore cause yeah, deep fake video to make them say whatever the hell you want to say. So yeah, we talked about that. We’ve been on, we’ve been doing this for six years. Um, we probably said every word to humanly like, dude, they did the pipe. My AI Brogan was 200 episodes, if I recall correctly. Was that only the toilet word? Tonight’s three 30, he goes for six hours in episode trope when he smokes aardvark esophagus, incandescent. I was like, what are you doing? Just throw some extra words out there for the AI. They would do like discombobulated. David has a vocabulary of like 4,000 words. Bob 140. We can make Bob say anything we want as long as it has to do with fart. Yes. Yeager it’d be be. So we always, we’d like talking about the, the, the mighty, uh, over, uh, the, the company’s worth way too much money. Um, do Uber, Uber, uh, released their first ever, uh, safety report. Uh, this is actually updated version. So we talked about this two months ago when it was first released. So they’ve, they’ve updated it. So they’re just plain plain tag. They did the numbers change their 3045 sexual assaults and nine murders in 2008. Yes. And that includes, they admitted to well, and that includes both passengers and drivers. Right. Um, there was 5,500 other is incidents of groping, unwanted sexual touching in those two years. Uh, basically those attacks were, then they’d have to throw this one out. Those attacks, representative point, uh, three zero, 2%, like 0.0, zero zero 2% of the 1.3 billion rides, theF  facilitated last year. And I the, cause I remember when we talked about it last time, they tried to compare, they tried to make it sound like that number was statistically insignificant. Um, Hey, you can tell I haven’t been really drinking cause I can say it’s statistically insignificant surgery. It’s shorter shoot, traditional shish don’t, uh, know. And, and so they, they put that out there and then the New York subway system, uh, transit authority came out and said, okay, our numbers like a 10th of that. So, and we have, I think it was like they have, God, what was it, 20 X, the passengers and their incident rate was one 10th of that. See, here’s the thing though, that’s apples and oranges because if you look at mass transit, you have 50 people in a subway cars. And you know, it’s a one to one thing in an Uber, usually chances are different than you’re not going to commit a crime when you have 49 people staring at you. I can remember I told this story on the intranet, uh, but so one of the show hosts here, and I got into a rather interesting conversation where he got into an Uber one night after being in a bar. And I’m disclaimer, this is not me. Uh, cause it sounds like it could be me, but it is not me. But a friend of mine totally shows you’re not gonna even tell you who it was. Uh, but he got, he got drunk, uh, got an Uber and passed out. Um, he is a gentleman of color. Uh, and so the driver is so, and he’s looking back. So number one, the driver did not drive him home. The driver drove him to the police station that was less than a half mile from his house and insisted the police come get him out. So he got dragged out of an Uber by three cops. Um, Uber, backseats, my safe place it’s supposed to be. And then like, so the next morning he’s like, do the Uber driver like racked and he put them in a drunk tank? Yeah. Oh yeah. Wouldn’t let him walk home the short leg. Like literally it was like less than a half a mile to his house. Come on. And you give him a five star rating. No. So here’s the best part. So the driver not only did that to him, but drove all over to Helen gone while he was passed out jacking up the fare. Oh shit. So yeah, I mean it’s, it’s one of those Scott, like it doesn’t track you and when you’re separate tomorrow, that’s how he knew, uh, any, any wound up getting like, you know, the, the ride fare refunded and that kind of shit. But I mean that’s, that’s still, dude, that’s an ugly set of circumstances, but it’s just like, can you imagine, can you imagine like getting hauled out of an Uber by three cops cause you passed out. I’m like, dude, I, I done good dude. I like, exactly, this is what I’m supposed to do. Like that’s the thing that like, that always bothers me. Like I was supposed to, who was it? The police? Is it the police chief? Uh, out there in Michigan? They got busted for a DUI and ice. He’s just getting probation. I mean, he, Hey, he was super drunk. I mean, he was, he was like literally more than three times the limit. But Hey, we’re just going to put him on probation and he’s still employed. He’s still the police chief. He used to, yeah. Yeah, we’re a little lenient. Ah. Um, so here, this was an interesting one and I remember we went nuts, what was it, two or three years ago at penguin con when they were implementing our food? They were doing. They were, no, they were, they were doing, they were installing or implement or implants for RFID implants in your hand? Yes. And somebody was actually doing that at penguin cotton and we were like, you are out of your effing mind. A story came out on LinkedIn, basically the title. Would you let your boss chip you? Well, it seems like this accelerates every year because there was like one company in Wisconsin, if I recall correctly, that was doing this like a year ago. Yeah, that sounds familiar. Yeah. And, and but like now apparently it’s becoming more like, it’s, it’s like this is the new company ID badge. So I’m like, so here’s the thing, I’m in a secure building, I have an ID badge, I swipe it to get out. I can’t walk in. Otherwise there’s glass things and they move and then there’s a security person behind the desk and my face comes up on a screen and then they greet me. Good morning Robert. Right? Like I don’t like what else do you want or need? Like what were the point? Are you really going to have dude, what’s the average life expectancy at a job now? Three years? It depends on what you’re doing, but yeah. So what, you’re just going to wind up with scars everywhere from all the various, like is that, is that going to be like, Oh yeah, so this is the scar from when I worked at Cisco. This is the scar from the RV. This is the one. But then they’re talking about, they’re doing it for like offsite construction workers when they get on site. So like they’re going to have sensors so you don’t even have to badge in. So like it’s going to be a smart to know. What, what’s your exit interview like? Is it in an operating room to pull it out? I don’t know. Hey, you’re getting fired. We’re going to cut you open. Well, I remember like five years ago, um, I in Canada and my cousin’s best friend was implementing an app for the snowplow industry. Uh, it puts sensors around parking lots and basically when that, when the, the billing started, as soon as the trucks pulled in and they stopped building bill, you know what I mean? And they would show their path and their trajectory. Right. Um, good. That’s that to me, fine. If you want to track drivers, you want to know, they already do what GPS with with ups and all the FedEx and all that. But like working on site, like could you imagine like, Oh, you’re going off site to the switch data center in grand Rapids. And by the way, um, we’re going to track your every movement while you’re in the data center and when you, when you get there and when you, you know, when you leave, not just badging in or we’re not going to trust you that you, you know, people are either gonna like, I don’t know what they’re going to do. Well, and I’m sorry, but like the weird, like one of the weirder stories that I thought came up was that Airbnb acquired a company, um, that essentially let them now run an AI based on information other than what you give Airbnb. Um, like looking up your job, your social profiles, all this other stuff to determine whether or not you are a quote unquote acceptable fit for the property that you were looking to acquire. Is this China? This isn’t China, is it Danny? I’m just saying like, so you know, and so you know, there’s, there, there according to them, you know, they’re, they’re trying to STEM some of the issues they’ve had where like somebody runs an Airbnb, throws a party, destroys the house or you know, sex workers, you know, porn filming, that kind of stuff. I get it. It’s still creepy as hell. It’s creepy. A sale’s sleeping in someone’s bed with their steak, but like the day before and then you’re going to stay there all weekend. Go to a Marriott. That’s, yeah. I don’t forget crying out loud. We were, we were going down to Florida with friends and they wanted an Airbnb. And I go, Hey, I don’t want to cook breakfast B. I want to get coffee downstairs at like a coffee shop. I don’t want to like have to like go to the grocery store. See, I don’t want to poop on someone else’s stinkbug toilet. Like it’s no for real. Like it’s gross and you’re, you’re wondering if they got hidden cameras and see that that’s always the thing I wonder about when it comes to people staying in Airbnbs carries and shit there, you know what I mean? Cams or whatever. Right. And then all of a sudden now, you know, and you could see it, they could see in the dark. So is there a one over your bed? Uh, you know, if, uh, you know, you’re watching the dirty movie on channel 12, he goes, are you the dirty movie next? Right on channel 11. Right. So very a very minority report ish. The story about Delta and they’re parallel reality. I like this one still very minority report issue. Cause, like we’ve talked about like whenever you can use those powers for good, you can write like, would you, you know, walk into a Kroger and they go, you know, Jaeger Meisters unseal Mr. Walton schpiel ILA eight, right? Like wow, thanks. It’s like the Facebook ads with my stupid tee shirts, right? I’m not, I look at a Facebook ad and like unless it’s a wish ad, nine times out of 10, I’m like God damn what I want it. Right. You know, so, so Delta. So I keep wanting to send a, like a note to the wish team just asking them if they’re okay. Did you see, uh, I posted it on the football forum and it was like a wish thing and I didn’t even realize what was on the right of the cause. It was like a pair of pants and there was like a puff coming [inaudible] and I’m like, what in the world would that be? Is it like carbon filtered pants? But there was Wiener lipsticks to the right of it. Of course. It’s basically your search history Bible. I’m like, no nice clothes. I go, but Dave’s getting at the parallel reality. It’s basically there’s going to be like one giant screen for your departing flights and let’s say like Caston sitting next to me and I’m staring at it and it’s gonna show me my flight and it’s gonna show him his flight at the same time. I, yeah, I got to see, I don’t know how I got to show this in action. Right. And I don’t know how it’s going to work. Um, like I understood like minority report, it was based on basically contact lenses they had in, but right. They scan your Iris basically zap, you know, each individual gets his app while you’re walking through. We’ll see. Um, and they go, they think it’s 10 20 years away, but it’s like literally their PO seeing right now. Yeah. Um, and I don’t know what the big deal is. All I got to do is go like Denver, Denver, Denver, Detroit, 10 40 gate a 42. It’s like, is this a problem for which we need an additional solution? I guess I want to figure it out that I could bring my bottle of water. And that’s what I would have framed it exactly. Is it four, can I give to my four ounce bottle of shampoo going to get thrown away or, uh, so speaking of throwaways and I do love this, apparently there’s a database sitting on a Chinese IP address, uh, with the details of 56 million Americans just hanging out publicly open and accessible. Uh, thanks to a website called check people.com is apparently where it was pilfered from. I love the, uh, the th this is the response. No, the subtext of the, uh, of the headline. If check people could take a look at this, that would be great. That would be great. Yeah. So yeah, it’s apparently it’s names, addresses, employment. Yeah. Good, good, good types. Thanks. Thanks for that. However that happened. That’s a male relatives, criminal records and basically they just skimmed public records. Yeah. Good time. You put it in a database and a white hat hacker. They had to found it. They had to, they had to list that out cause Hey, that’s why I said it’s not the individual breaches you have to worry about. It’s the people that are out there aggregating this. Yeah. It was personal data and metadata. Um, yeah, they were all scraped and, and it’s just sitting out there and uh, yeah. Nice. At this point. It’s funny cause we were talking about like 23 and me and all that crap at work and the guy goes, I don’t do that crap. I go, man, I go, go to activity.google.com. He goes, I delete that stuff. I go, Oh yeah, that’s cause it’s gone. You know. And he’s like, yeah, and Snapchat actually deletes the pictures, you know. But it’s a, it is a sad day though. Um, and I didn’t realize how people, like we know when they forced windows 10 and everybody with windows, windows seven was a good, OSA was, there wasn’t really many bad Microsoft OSS, you know, a change. I hate it. Um, but apparently I always like the, the big bang theory. Sheldon when he was like, when windows eight came out and he was like, windows eight is you, it’s so much more user friendly than windows seven. I don’t like it. Um, but apparently a Microsoft dropping support a seven today and they’re not going to, they as of today, it is end of life. 26% of all PCs 26 that number blew my mind right now because they for, no, because as we sat in WJR on Saturday looking at the windows XP screen, Oh my God, I know windows XP and they were making fun of it and I go that screen right there, I tell CRT monitor, Oh my God. But not because they were forcing 10 upgrades. Yup. So like windows seven 26% I think about that one in four PCs. Yeah. That’s insane. But it’s one of the things, it’s again, if it’s functioning and it works cool, still get windows 10 if you want, if you’re still running windows seven or windows eight you can still get windows 10 it, they stopped pushing it for free, but they’re still supporting it. So we go down the media, download the media creation tool from the Microsoft website, run it, and then check the activation and it’ll use your eight or seven key to activate the windows 10 version. Yep. Yup. Cool. Well, Hey, we’re going to take a speaking of, uh, I, I got nothing. I was gonna use it. Speaking of activating, they’ll try and sense either, uh, speaking of cats, we’re going to take a quick break. We’re going to be back with Cason and Thomas. We’re gonna be talking about, uh, being on WJR this weekend and a bunch of other stuff. This is the it in the D show. They, he’ll be, Hey, welcome back. Segment two, episode three, 30 of the it that he show broadcasting live here. Studio three podcast. He traded beautiful Royal Oak, Michigan. Bob the sales guy, Dave the geek. Randy. I do the Twitters is doing the Twitters. Find us online it in theD  dotcom. You want to know why? Cause we all right, Tina and you, you’re, you’re still not, but we still love you. And as a reminder, again, I am a moron and I scheduled the event for next Thursday, not this Thursday. My apologies. We’ll have that fixed moving forward in future months. But Hey, capital one knows life doesn’t alert you about your credit card. That’s why they created, you know, the capital one assistant to catches things that might look wrong with your credit card, like over tipping duplicate charges or potential fraud. Then sends an alert to your phone and helps you fix it. It’s another way. Capital one is watching out for your money when you’re not capital one. What’s in your wallet? See capital one.com for details that CAAP I T a L O N e.com. But Hey, we are very, very lucky to be joined by the illustrious one, the one and only the 13th time on the it in the D show. I wanted to do like a Rick flair thing, like the 16 time world champion. But Hey Caston Thomas, welcome. Thank you for joining us. Glad to be here. Oh yeah, absolutely. We uh, we haven’t seen you in days. I don’t of fact. No, we haven’t been on jr it feels like a couple of years. Um, it wasn’t that long. I thought it was since the last time we were on, I don’t know, it’s was about a year ago. We were then co-hosting for two and a half years. And this is the first time I’ve been in the studio with you. That’s what I thought we were on once with Jeff and we, uh, were on one trip and now, yeah, I know. Caston’s on 13 times here. We’re on three times on jr. um, it’s probably for the best, let’s be honest. No, you guys were great. No, but so like we always like talking about the differences between podcasting and radio and you know, you kind of cut your teeth, you know, guesting here talking about security and, and all that. You made it all possible guys. That’s in fact, Oh wait, is that jazz music right here? We’ll be back with a quick word from plumbers with a Z in the geek or.studio. I wanted to say, I’m so kicking myself for not saying that. And you’re like, yeah, I’m really proud to be here in the geek or Don studios. Now we might have to do the seven second button on that one. Ah, you just don’t mess with the host. And here’s the thing. You didn’t even, you didn’t even introduce me yet. And I’m already ragging on you cause you’re talking about like a microwave with like a clipboard screen on it. I’m like, yeah, we need to have a conversation about that. By the way. Why go into the long explanation? Because we only had seven minutes on that segment to get real content because you need recipes for Kraft dinner. And I’m like, that’s not it. I’ll talk to you after this riveting. I can’t wait to hear more about the microwave with a clipboard. Yay. CES. Now hang on, hang on. Let me hijack this for just a minute. Uh, and I told you I was going to do it, but you know, our last time together was with foster, uh, coming in and that was a must listen show because it was intense. It was beautiful. Uh, and yet it was still having a little of that irreverence that you guys have and fun. But, uh, I’d like to just stop for a moment and say thank you. I mean, not just for me, but for everybody who’s listening. The impact that it in the D and you, Bob and Dave have had on the it community on Detroit and on all your listeners. I mean, there are guys out in some remote desert listening to this show looking at the beautiful stars because they’re a hundred or a thousand miles away from any city light and you bring sanity into an insane world. Or, wait, did I mean insane? I was like, I don’t, I don’t know that that’s accurate. I don’t, Oh yeah, I’ll tell you. I’ll take it. Yeah. You know, there’s just something that you bring to people’s lives every week. And I enjoy the show and I know thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands of people, really appreciate the work you do. Thanks, man. I’ll slip you the a hundred hours. No, right. No slipping me anything. Well, here’s the thing, and we’re going to, if we’re going to butter each other’s bread, I mean, uh, I know you’ve only been a part of internet adviser, not for a couple of years, but that you guys are celebrating your 23rd anniversary now you think about and you know, and there’s still like a couple of people that have been on since day one talking about, yeah, Gary Baker’s been on state one talking about technology for 23 years. It’s as long as I’ve been in it. That was before XP. That was before windows 90 that’s, yeah, that’s 1997 so you’re still in the windows 95 brother printer era. Yeah. Elaborate with Dave just said there’s one of our favorite, so the internet adviser shorts, a two hour show on WJR every Saturday an hour now. It’s one hour now, but it used to be a two hour show and the first hour was talking about kind of like what we do, talk about going through the news. Second hour was taking calls and it was fixing people’s stuff and they had the patience of saints. It was the most amazing show of restraint and help knit and helpfulness. Google that, you know. No, cause that was, Oh every answer was let me Google that for you. Yeah, throw it out. That was the guy who [inaudible] my brother printer will not talk to windows. Okay. Printers are 50 bucks. Throw it away by anyone. One bell. We got to fix that. It’s not a correct way. So I started saying in foster love this, I’d say, you know, we’re always smarter after the break. Right. Well we’ll hope, you know, hold on just a minute, we’ll get back to you after the break. And then we had all the answers. It guys don’t know everything. We just know how to Google really, really well. That was maybe one of the best memes with like that stuffed animal. Like it’s like a chimpanzee and it was like doctors, like you can’t go to what the web MD does. Programmers are like, um, but no, two weeks ago my mom calls me after every show and gives me her critique and one one time about, Oh no, you know what, my mother is like stepping back in to leave it to Beaver. She’s that 1950s Southern Belle mother who, you know, I go down to Atlanta and uh, we go into a store and she goes, I raised you better than that. And I’m like, Ooh, sorry. And I take my hat off. Oh geez. Wow. Suddenly I’m 13 again. Sorry Bob. I’m sorry. Sorry. Calls me. And she goes, you’re not going out drinking with those nice boys. Ah, no, no. Mom, go, they went home. I brought a flask, ma. No, but you, you kind of dropped something. I mean like that show is hurt. You said what? 28 States, 38 States, States sun goes down and Canadia and all, all provinces in Canada. [inaudible] pro. Yeah. They cause at sundown many stations shut down. So that’s why the seven 60 band is clear channel across the nation. And I always thought it was fascinating hearing it because we went to Cleveland and you could like where we would go to Cedar point like that. Like I always, for some reason I still have that, like when we used to go up North and the first day she’d pick up as jr we had the blessing of Kettering university on and he goes, it’s really great to be here in the jr studios. He said when I was 12 years old, I erected a 20 foot antenna. I lived about 10 miles outside of Orlando and I would listen to jr at night. Oh my God. So that’s crazy. And another guy came on, he goes, my father is so excited that I’m on the show because he remembers driving to Iowa with me and we drove all the way to Iowa and listen did jr the whole time. That’s what we always talk about. Listening to Ernie Harwell. I like, I probably heard Ernie Harwell speak to me more than my own father. Wow. Like, if you think about it, if you grew up in this town and you’re like baseball, like you would listen to him 162 times for what, two and a half hours a pop do the math like yeah, probably right. It’s a ritual. Yeah, exactly. And it was, it was religion. You know what I mean? So, and everyone’s odd, AM’s dead, no one heard you, you know, and they make fun of us for being on your show. Um, but like there’s, there’s, there’s, we got emails about it. We got picked up followers. There’s a charm to it. It’s, it’s, it’s a thing like I always, uh, I, I don’t think it’ll ever die because someone will do like a ham set up and make, you know, there are other podcast studios out there trying to buy a am radio stations to make that work. So yeah, there’s that. I wanna I still want to, I still have my dream in life cast and I don’t know if we’ve told you this as we went, there was an am radio station for sales, one of those like high school ones that like have like a mile of a reach and I wanted to do the WPI out of the back of somebody’s window, but I want to know non pirate radio. It was a, it was a legit, like it was, we actually got offered to take it over, um, that because we helped them build out a studio there and it was like a secondary education school. Um, and to help them build out the studio with like, you know, some soundproofing and some gear that we had. Um, and they had an old am transmitter that has like a Miley you could like, like [inaudible] for like two miles along one road. You could hear it. We do 38. Yeah, it was not yet, but I want it to be WBRD where every day the bird is the word and I want to play the Trashman Surfin bird on repeat all day. And Java, I think. No, no, no. Just Surfin bird, Java, surf bird Jack or it’d be the, um, the gamut. What was the droid and empire and Hoff, um, the, the probe droid. So, but just to what I originally hijacked to show it, I want to encourage people to get on iTunes, get on Google store, get on YouTube and rate the show. Say thank you. Tell these guys what they mean to you and what the show means to you. Don’t tell us what we mean to you. Might be surprised, but no, really. Um, you know, one of the things that I’ve given a lot of thought about is how do we create compelling radio versus compelling podcasting and we can’t get into the depth and radio. It’s like you said, you know, the jazz music comes on every seven to 10 minutes. And there was a relationship with drew him like that. I had, and I don’t know if it was just the era that I grew up in, like that was like every, it was part of my day every single day. And they actually, they gave them time to talk. I would listen to you guys every morning. You want to get up at fourth I am not getting now. The one thing I never understood is how Mike from Jerome, Mike could laugh at. Like, I’m just like just getting my seven 11 coffee down my down, my pie hole and this guy’s just cracking up laughing at fart jokes. And I’m like, well my eyes are happy. Step one. You would’ve had to gone to bed at eight o’clock the night before, right? Yeah. I mean when foster was doing the 6:00 AM morning show, he was talking about getting up at two 30 in the morning so that he could do a show prep, get into the studio, get everything set up. And it’s just, you know, it’s like taking the night, the night shift. Well, and that’s the thing, like, you know, I having their relationship with drew on Mike, I think people now have relationships with podcasters just cause they’re getting it. They’re getting it when they want, how they want. Right. So like there’s no, I had to, you know, if I wasn’t, if I took the day off that day or if I, you know what I mean? I wouldn’t get to listen to them. Yeah. It was just, it was that easy. I had to be six and 10. I had to be in my car. Usually it was I was going to school or whatever I was doing and I got to listen to them know, otherwise forget it. You know, millennials, you know, get this bad rap for attention span. And I was listening to Jordan Peterson, I think it was, and he was talking about the people who listen to his podcast or watch his two and a half hour videos and he goes, attention spans not the problem. It’s having compelling content. Indeed. You guys have compelling content. When present company did I have short attention span theater? Did it? If I click a video or something like that, man, it’s like the, all that, you know, if you build a great website, they will come. If you make them wait eight seconds, they will leave. I mean, it’s, it’s that simple. Like if I’m bored before you even get started getting rolling. See ya. And if you got a six minute intro, forget it. Four that’s over then. Oh my God, when I got so much grief, uh, when, when Jim Alison was on talking gaming, apparently his wife listened live and she’s like texting them the whole time going like, Jesus Christ. How long do they expect people to listen to this shit? Like she’s like just, just berating us. Like yes Jim, we just added 30 seconds. Exactly. That’s, that’s another 15 seconds that has to get right. That’s the rule. So I mean what are you learning from, I mean from am radio other than like seven seconds. Jazz music, you know, and then you get 12 seconds jazz music. There’s no screw ups. There’s no stopping. There’s no edit. I mean you just got to go and it’s, it’s tough. There’s pressure there. Uh, part of it is, and you’ve got all the FCC rules and restrictions. Well, yeah, not a problem for me because my mom makes me take off the hat. One I was worried about saying suck. Like, I really was, cause you know when we were talking about, uh, yeah, my brother wants to talk to you about that. [inaudible] tell her to watch our TEDx talk and it’s going to wash your mouth out. And no, because that was our thing. Suck. Listen, I, I thought about it, I thought about it. I go, Nope, I’m going to say it. Yeah, no, that’s an okay word. Yeah. Well, because you know, you’re referring to Becky vacuum cleaners and whatever. It’s all context. No, but like, you know, and the thing is too is you’re on payroll. It’s not like, just like you’re letting, it’s not like you’re paying for that time. Right. So, you know, you probably have people listening. You, I don’t know, do you guys have to go through like a a that was good, that wasn’t good. I think at this point, 23 years, you pretty much have carte blanche in there. No, no, no comment. Giga or Dodd didn’t like that bit about podcasts. The one thing I have to consider because sometimes I do, uh, talk about, uh, certain products and things and I have to give a second thought about, you know, am I going to be stepping on a sponsor and getting a call about that? Right? There’s, there’s so much freedom and podcasting and so many ways, uh, it’s difficult at times to, to interact on the radio, but there’s a charm about that real time nature of interacting with people because we do take Colin’s, and that’s part of my, that’s my favorite part of the show is when we actually get to interview or talk to somebody live, you know, they’ve got a problem and it may be really simple, it may be a head scratcher, right? But there’s, there’s something genuine and charming about that that I really enjoy. Well, I mean, we joke about just Google it for crying out loud, but there’s a, there’s kind of like a connection when you can help them. Oh, so two weeks ago, my mother calls in, her review was, you know, that was a very informative show. But what’s 5g again, one more. It’s not her world. It’s one more than four Jima. But what I mean, that’s when four people get in a room full idea. People actually being involved in the real world and they really didn’t even know it. Five G is where the connection to number one warn them about things that they don’t hear enough about. And I remember Nuri talking about having talked to your grandparents about tech day. Yeah, yeah, we’re doing that. Well. So I brought that up with a, there’s another show here that does like a security protection, that kind of stuff. And they started talking about, you know, you know, shredding documents and all that stuff. And I was like, dude, I’m like, cause you don’t know. You don’t even just say like when we’re not, when my wife’s grandparents died, they died within about three months of each other. Um, and cleaning out their house was a nightmare because they literally kept every piece of paper that they had ever gotten from anything ever, including all of their medical stuff, which up until about 20 years ago was just your social security number was everywhere like that. That was all that was there. So they were like literally just crates upon crates, upon crates, upon crates of this shit where we rented an industrial shredder and burned the sucker out a day and a half in and had to be like, Hey, broke it. Sorry. Need another one. Yeah. Amazing. I mean for me, I never thought about it. I’m like, Oh good. That folder of 2012 tech stuff I can actually finally tell us. Yeah. As I say, it sounds like it’s time to just hide it under a pile of leaves and light. The whole thing on fire, dude, like you don’t even know a dude. It would have triggered like a neighborhood fire if we, I mean I seriously, I cannot put into proper context exactly how much paperwork they had stored in their house. That was, I mean he had a garage, but I’ve got this problem. I’ll save things for 20 years and then I throw it out in the wind cleaner. I need it. Does anybody else have that as ask? Ask me for a windows 95 installed city. I have one asked me, ask me for, you know, dos six Oh, installation diskettes asked me if I have anything that would lead to mill serial converter. Right? Yep. Ask me if I have anything that’ll read a 3.44 floppy at this point. Uh, uh, yeah, no, God. I mean that dude, that’s me. Like I’m, I’m a huge fan. It’s, and it’s the, it’s the fear of, you know, in Bob lives, you know, loves to talk about my ego and my hero complex and that kind of stuff. And I admit I do have one, but it’s that. No, no. Well dude, cause it was Jeff who like, and he was like, Hey dude, I know this is a weird request, but my dad’s computer died. You don’t have a windows 95 install CD do yet. I’m like gimme a minute. Yeah. When are you coming over? I think I still have a dos one. I still got my pile. Oh crap. And all these years you haven’t waived a magnet over it accidentally now. No, he talks he, it’s funny he talks about it is I got the Iomega drive too. Oh yeah, I got it. Oh yeah. Here’s the thing. If you put it in a certain place and you never go into that place again and it just sits like that’s my, I think yours is probably organized minded just because I’d even thrown it away. No, not really. No. Just really, I opened a box that I am convinced I have, like I’m convinced the box has moved with me from when I, that the townhouse in DC that I had through every house that I’ve lived here. And I’ve never looked at it because when I opened up this box, dude, my alphanumeric SkyTel pager was in this box. My light just shit that I haven’t even touched or even thought about since I was living in DC. Uh, you know, an old star tack, you know, flip phone. I just, and I’m like, even I was like, why? Why got all my old phones, all my kids, my kids, I was their toy phones. Oh yeah. My Nokia, my flip. Well, I like the nice, you ever have a problem Edward L who’s on her show? He can answer questions on all that. Exactly. Yeah. Start that TARDEC phone, the one that’s connected to the Verizon network, but only show number a Y. Oh, okay. But also, I mean I do, I think it’s cool. I mean that’s a, that’s that’s one of the cause you to you guys, you guys take a a little bit different approach with that kind of stuff than we do. I mean we’re, we’re a little bit more, we’re a lot more irreverent than you are. No, no, but I mean, but that’s, but that’s the thing. I mean that was, that was our taken our approach when we decided that we wanted to do this is, you know, there was already enough and not that you guys were this bad, but there were, there were, there was, there were already enough today on this technology podcast, we’re going to be on the port God Mark corner then Mark. Yeah. Like we’re not, we’re going to review this five port, this Linux distro onco six. Dot. Oh yeah. [inaudible] commandos. Not the Hottie. She once was these guys the wayside. But yes, I mean it’s, it, you know, it is. I mean, and you know, and I do like if I, if I happen to be out driving around and when I know you guys are on, I’ll throw it on and listen. Um, so I mean keep an eye on you and then drive home on the drive home from jr. I was like, Oh, I want to listen to the second hour that I’m doing tech support and it’s Ben Shapiro. And I’m like, Oh, I want, I want to see if anyone was listening to us on there that I know they’re like cringing right now. Call them. Well, you know, we, we try to keep that down-home effect because we know where our audience and you gotta be real, but you also have to know your audience at the same time. And so a little thing that Cal Carson did, you know, one of the coppos was he brought Bob’s daughter up to the microphone and she brought, brought it in and she was really shy and kind of intimidated by all the studio stuff. But that just one, it resonates with our audience. But when you saw the kindness that Cal exhibited with Bob’s daughter, it was just an amazing thing to watch. She nails welcome to the internet advisers show and she doesn’t know her damn name. And I’m like, God, come on kindergarten, you should nail this stuff. All right, so switching gears, uh, there is apparently a workshop that you were doing. Yeah, we wanted to talk about, you know, last time I was on, we were talking about edge computing and uh, sensor-based networks and the way that smart cities and smart cars and smart hospitals and smart factories are building out. Uh, and uh, I’m doing work with this incredible team from [inaudible] solutions group. Well, what’s evolved out of that is we saw a real need for developing a program for securing IOT. And one of the things that, that I’ve been saying over and over and over, almost a mantra is that if we try to apply the same security and support models to IOT that we did to it, we’re going to fail. Catastrophical I says in securing IOT. Isn’t that like an oxymoron at this point in the game? Well it can be, but the difficulty is, is that there’s all this complexity around it. The barn door is open, the horses out, but hasn’t found a gate through the fence yet. A lot of the door horses out, like what are you going to do with it? Yeah, you can assemble them and do nasty things and create DDoS attacks. But the really sophisticated kind of things, the hackers haven’t quite gotten to that point to shut down a massive number of factories or a hospital. We’ve seen incidents of that and occurrences, you know, the Saudi, a refinery got shut down, a manufacturing plant in Germany got totally shut down by malware. And then, uh, you know, you had a couple of outbreaks where not intentionally, but ransomware impacted some really expensive and, uh, really important medical devices over in Europe didn’t spread to the United States. So, uh, we are behind the eight ball. So what we’ve done is we’ve created a half day workshop that we’re going to be going around. I’m going to be going to about 20 cities this year, uh, conducting a half day workshop. The first, uh, the morning’s going to be medical devices. The afternoon’s going to be industrial controls call, internet of industrial things, building automation, those kinds of things because there are step-by-steps and a lot of resources that are out there. I mean, Mayo clinic’s done eight years of securing medical devices. I can’t hear that without going airplane. Give me him on five, hold the mail. There you go. Yeah. The letter that the one guy wrote, there’s a book and he’s like, wrote a, like a really polite dissertate. Like it’s really cool that you guys have a clinic dedicated to the mayonnaise. I just go into Mayo. Yeah, no. So, so we’re taking the best, this is for people who’ve already been or organizations that have already been down this path. We’re packaging it up with the resources, the methodologies, and the construct of a workshop with uh, forms and worksheets and team building exercises so that we can either take in one of these metropolitan based, uh, many people from different organizations, but a slight spin on that is going into a hospital or into, uh, an industrial complex or utility and facilitating, bringing them through the steps to make sure that they’ve checked all the boxes for securing IOT, uh, whether that’s medical devices or industrial or utilities, smart grid, smart network. And so the idea is that we can accelerate the development of, of a comprehensive cybersecurity programs specific to IOT and just a couple of weeks instead of the six months of all the organizational things and defining the structures of why IOT is different, why you support it differently. Because if you’ve got a clinical engineer, a plan engineer who’s got to spend 30 minutes and in order to just to get a device on the network because they’ve got to call the help, right? Got to call the network. You got to provision this guy [inaudible] well is it going to get, is it going to get to the point with IOT that there’s going to be either a standard or a compliance that they need, uh, companies need to comply to cause right now it’s wild, wild West. You know, what come to the early days of the internet, come to find out right here. No, the uh, this has done a lot of good work, uh, particularly in the area of medical devices and organization called MITRE. M. I T R E has uh, I E T F E is an even has a guide on the important factors. These organizations had done a lot of really good work. A lot of it is F the role and conceptual, not real world. We’re trying to bring that real world experience that other organizations have put in. Then our, uh, our expertise in going through this with organizations to put down something that’s efficient and economical. And a buddy of mine who did an IOT security deployment of over a million devices says, yeah, it looked at the NIST requirements. And if we did that in our organization, it would only cost us $8 billion billion. Yeah. [inaudible] the numbers. He’s a numbers guy. Used to work for Google and built data centers, but what’s the in what? And then he had to look at what’s the penalty for not doing it and if it’s less than a billion, that’s the route they were going. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, there aren’t a lot of penalties for this. It’s really looking at the differences in how IOT devices are different than IOT devices. As an example, IOT devices are typically not manned, are they? They may be in remote areas. That idea of being able to patch a thousand devices in an oil pipeline, it ain’t going to happen because if one of the sensors goes down for a couple of minutes, they got to shut down the whole pipe. Right? That’s why you have unpatched devices in industrial controls. That’s why you have all of the sensors that are running, uh, universities and hospitals that haven’t been updated. What about the new consumer Alliance that was just announced though? Can I get home over IP? Apple, Amazon, Google, ZigBee. Gee, I really wish I knew about home. There’s a laser focused, they actually have one called chips chip. You, well they’re not calling it a chip, but everybody else is bringing me punch and John, I’m glad ZigBee still exists. That was like Samsung and I was working with it like an Oh four and I thought I’d died and then Bluetooth became a standard and then, yeah, no I’m glad. I’m happy to hear that cause I used to work in like home club. The home blog Alliance. Yeah, like back in that was Oh four Oh my God. If I’m not mistaken I think Kroger is doing some things with ZigBee throughout all their stores. That may be old information, but yeah. Is that their shopping thing where you go pick up the scanner or is it something these are old brain cells. I’ve already cleared cash. Sorry. Yeah, I was like, Hey, where do people find out more about this seminar and like sign up for it or like is it out yet? Is it, yup. Yup. I’m doing one in Cleveland. We did our first one on medical devices in San Francisco was very well received back at the end of last year. He didn’t step any poop on the street. Did you? A no comment. Okay. I can’t say badly. She totally does. Everyday stepson. Uh, find me on LinkedIn. Caston Thomas sounds like it’s spelled or spelled like it sounds. And uh, uh, you can also go to [inaudible] S G [inaudible] solutions group.com and find out more and uh, click through there. Fill out a form. You can get to me. Awesome internet advisers on a six o’clock on Saturdays on WJR 70, 67. As long as the lions and the Spartans aren’t playing football or basketball, uh, we’re generally generally on live and uh, in color. Nice. Nice. Not really cause it’s a M so you’re not in HTS. Everybody listens to it in the D. just tell your parents to listen. There you go. There you go. Now we’ve got some guys that qualify. We gotta go get some, we get an older crowd that comes around. Yeah. Right. So lucky 13 you know, it’s always a joy to be here with you. Thanks for coming out again man. I appreciate it. Sure. It’s always a good chat. Yeah. Good senior cast. Another always. Hey, we’re going to wrap things up for episode 330 of the it and that he sure would like to thank Caston Thomas for spending time with us. Hosted the internet advisers show and security consultant Xtrordinair on behalf of a Bob David Randi, do us all a favor. Get your trick up, drinks, get your phone numbers. You don’t get to go home. 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Welcome to our first episode of 2020, and we kick things off talking a little more Star Wars (because why wouldn’t we), as well as diving in with James Allison… who’s not only a geek and can talk sci-fi with the best of us, but has the distinction of being a Guinness World Record holder for the longest running online gaming guild, so we naturally have a lot of questions and it’s a pretty interesting chat about the entire process and what he had to go through… Hey, welcome back. Thank you for clicking play. Happy new year. It’s 2020. This is the one only it in the D show episode. Bob. Yeah, I told you I’d see it next year. Um, this is episode three 29. We’ve got an awesome guest in the house. Uh, Uber nerd. Jim Alison is in the house. He has a Guinness record. I think it’s our only guest we’ve ever had it as a Guinness record and it is for something you wouldn’t think. A humble guy, pinball guy. And Jim has won four of the longest running uh, online gaming Guild. So the way you, we’re going to have a fun time talking about, uh, online gaming and memos. I know it’s just going to be amazing. And uh, Dave, you may fire when ready. You’re listening to the podcast. Detroit network. Visit www.podcastdetroit.com for more information. Thank you for clicking play. It feels like we haven’t done this in like two weeks cause it’s been two weeks. Got it. Feels like it hasn’t been like a year. Speaking of which, I have seen the happy new year. Happy doing it. This is the one that only it and that each show broadcasting live here in studio one in podcast Detroit in beautiful Royal Oak, Michigan. This is Bob the sales guy. That is Dave the geek. Randy. I’m doing the Twitters is doing the Twitters. Find us online@itinthed.com and do us a favor. Give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold. All right, so even though like you’re not the point guy anymore and Arbor is still tomorrow. Yeah. Greg and Greg are tomorrow a haymaker so check them out for the first one. Thing two will be at haymaker. Yeah, and we’ve got to talk. Dave and I got to talk, or Randy, you can talk to with us, figuring out our year schedule. There’s a few places around town that I wanted to have our offense. Chelsea’s not at embryo anymore. I haven’t talked to her in a while. Do you pay attention? Eh? Yeah. I’ve only been in the hospital since like November. You’ve had nothing. You had nothing to do with pay attention to people’s Facebook updates, movies to eighties movies to watch star Wars movies to see. So speaking of, I will say a dude. So I have binged the hell out of like Disney plus I am getting every Penny’s worth out of that. I ignored clone Wars and rebels when it came out. I did a kind of end sorta like Battlestar Galactica. I regret doing so now James almost one. Yes. Without a guy I want to do, we could do with these key and dude remember how like I was like, I was like, no, I’m not watching it. It’s a remake. Screw you. I’m not. And then I watched it. I was like, when it came on BBC and I was like, Oh Oh that was really good. I’m mad I didn’t watch it. They are doing clone Wars is really good. I was taping all of them. I was watching them and then I was like kind of watching them half-assed. Then I didn’t get into it. And by like the pop culture constipation where like the backlog was just too much to push out. Yes, clear my watch Q but there’s just chosen considering giving up on like the termed reboot. Season two just really has a common interest. Riverdale season four is a hot mess. Like the whole show has been a hot mess. I’ll never forget I was doing work on my laptop and my daughter, my 12 year old daughter, she might’ve been 10 at the time and all I keep hearing is Archie and Veronica and Jughead. Right. And I’m like, what? And I look over and it looks like like nine Oh two one on Twilight and I go, what in the blue hell are you watching? Oh my daughter’s obsessed. She goes [inaudible] and I go, those are Archie comics. And I like pull it up on my laptop. And then like, so like I met comma kind. I bought her an Archie comic. She goes, dad, these are stupid. I go, you watch raver? Like what? There is nothing in common between Taylor and that very quickly. I know, I’m like, you like her. I felt like I’ve never felt like more like the mom from better off dead. I’m like, but you like you migrate. But no. So, yeah, no. So I have a, I’ve been, I binged, I, I made it all the way through clone Wars. Uh, I am in season two of rebels. Um, I don’t understand why Disney Plaza and I post about this the other day, I don’t understand why Disney plus didn’t just buy the rights for tartar, cop skis, clone Wars, um, which came out years before, uh, the series that is on Disney plus how you watch that? 2003. Yeah, dude. And like end-to-end, like all of them together. It’s two hours and 12 minutes and it’s good. Like I’m, I was between two and three. It’s clone Wars. Yeah, no, it’s, the clone Wars was like, two was clone Wars. It’s, yes, it’s between two and three. If that. It’s the bridge. It’s in fact. So here’s the thing. So clone Wars, the one that’s on Disney plus does not completely bridge between two and three yet. Yeah. Season seven’s comes, it comes out February 20th. Yeah. Um, but so that tarted Kowski version in two hours and 12 minutes completely bridges those two movies and was so good. Like I, I w I was stunned. So this is, it kind of goes to like the dumbest headline I’ve read this week. There was a bunch of them, not the fart pill. We’ll talk about that in a little bit because that was the dumbest nobody now actually I need to talk about that class. Of course you do real science, but like the fake star Wars arises. Skywalker streaming state see a steel user’s credit card. What kind of a moron do you have to be? And I’m just gonna I’m, I am, I’m, I’m gonna, I’m gonna put it in that context. What kind of a moron do you have to be that you’re going to throw your credit card info into a website that says, Hey, I’m streaming this huge movie that’s still out in theaters right now. And yet you won’t just go to the theater to watch it. Um, Oh yeah, that’s right. Well, they don’t want to leave the house. You don’t know who these people are. I am these people. Dude, you know me. If it’s not, dude, it takes a lot to get me into a movie theater people. I just don’t leave in general. Um, but it’s the same people that put their credit card info to verify their age, where they’re chatting with them. They’re hitting up porn sites in the UK. Real girl that wants to have sex with just that with just them. Yeah. Not today. ISIS not today. Probably got too big on mountain doing that. Can’t actually physically leave mom’s basement with Jim [inaudible] works once in a while. Yeah. I mean it hasn’t worked for me, but [inaudible] there was this guy in a forum that said it worked. Um, but no, so, but no. So I guess on the star Wars tip, dude, hold on, I gotta read this. This is all stupid till, cause I, they got a quote from Kaspersky on recommends that movies and TVs fans to follow the following steps to be on the safer side. Pay attention to the official movies. Pop a dumb ass, pay attention to the official movie release dates. Don’t click on suspicious links. This is those promising an early view of the film. Look at a download file extension. Oh my God. People are downloading the entire movie, like an exe to like click here to launch the player app or something. Right. Well it was back in the day was you go on like you watched like the shaky Russian cam, you know, and check the websites authenticity, you know, make sure that it’s got an HTTPS come on. I mean that doesn’t really mean much these days. Yes. Is free not as thin mask anything. Yeah. Um, but yeah, people are getting hit by it so much they to write on, on the star Wars tip, I dude, I am, I am looking forward to this. I I want, I need, I must have the hundred 92 minute directors. Oh my God, yes. Of the rise of Skywalker bring it become how did that even become a thing where that’s going to get released now if you haven’t heard about this yet GJ because cats cat. So number one there, there were two great stories of cats that we didn’t even talk that we didn’t even put it make, didn’t even make the list. Number one, nobody is going, actually there are three, number one, nobody’s going. Number two, 10 year old saw cats. Number two. So many people are not going that while it’s still in theaters. They released a new version to the theaters to hopefully make it suck less. Number three, the only people that are truly enjoying cats apparently are people that are high off their ass when they see the movie. I told you my third Magdalena white and right. 13 year old. She’s like, I go, do you? Yeah. What’s a theater? I go, do you guys go see star Wars cause she hasn’t seen it yet. Then my older one has, she goes, she goes, no, we saw him. Cats. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. You needed your group of friends. Your child has not seen star Wars yet. Dude, I been crack go nowhere dude. You’re lucky. I went that night too with you guys. I have no idea how hard that was for me to be in that theater. You could have told me I could have taken up with my kids. Eh? Gretchen went when she got a boyfriend, she went with him and 13 year olds. It’s like that whole world. He likes talking a with me, so I don’t mind them so much. But that didn’t apply to me. No, because it reminded me of talking wrestling with the one girl Gina, that I dated when I was that age. And I’m like, Oh, I know what he’s doing. Slimy. No. So no, but this isn’t our end 12 minute version of the rise of scour cause it was unprecedented. Who this hasn’t is this been done? I’ve never heard of this. Especially talking about this early going, Oh by the way, we cut a bunch of shit, but we’re going to splice it all back together and give it to you like three minutes after the end game just did it. They gave him what? They released a version with like seven more minutes of content. Oh, that was, that’s the, you know, C and a and a post trailer. Yeah. Yeah. Um, well, so here’s the, here’s the issue and I, and I think this is why they’re doing it. It’s, they’ve realized that, okay, they did the fan service version of the movie, which was she tour, which we talked about. No, we talked about it. They, they did the fan service. It was what had had to be version of the movie, but they apparently left so much on the cutting room floor in order to try to make the release date. And I mean we’re all geeks in this room. Um, we’ve all dealt, they had a minute. They’ve had a minute hard line, like they were talking about Disney said no, you can only make a blank, you know, like this long of a move. Oh no, no, no. It was, no, it was, it was all about the date. No, it was, it had nothing to do with the length that it had to do with release date. And exactly. It’s that, it’s that with its length. Uh, and so it was a, you know, so like that was like what they relieved. Like he literally finished the cut like the week before it was in theaters. Um, and that’s, that’s a shit show. And so, you know, and so like, and you read, you know, your ambition, we’ve all read them. Like, Randy’s been shooting me links to Reddit forums and all that kind of crap. Um, you know, here, then crate, Oh dude, amazing. Uh, but you read some of this stuff and like, and all the stuff, hold on. Sorry, I didn’t mean to cut you. I’m sorry to the middle of my sentence interrupted. Yes, no, it was, it was totally Disney. They wanted it to be a certain length so they could only, they just like run it more times than a theater so they could make their money. Like it really says, right. Like literally it says right here, like Abrams even admitted. Yeah, they wanted Disney brass wanted it to be, um, so the film could have screened, uh, reducing their potential boss box office if it was a longer film, which surprises me given the restrictions they put on theaters and the, the cut they got from theaters like, so like Disney put like a 60% box office cut or poles, a 60% box office cause it normally, uh, like 20 to 30, um, and demand that it be an X number of like X percentage of theaters and demanded to be in, you know, this, that, and the other thing. And if you didn’t guarantee that for like two months, you weren’t getting the movie. Jeez. So I mean like I a theater though, I’m taking a deal all day because that’s the reason why people, you know, Oh that’s, that’s the movie that gets people like yay to go into a movie theater. So I do, I like, I’m, I, I’m, I’m intrigued. Like I, I hope that’s 52 more minute cause it’s 140 minute cut right now. So they’re adding 52 minutes. Uh, that’s what they said. They said the goal was 140. Um, maybe they, you know, maybe they thought it was a little shorter than that. I when it, when it came out would have been, cause I apparently like it’s, it’s like, it’s almost, yeah, it’s almost an entire extra hour of footage they’re adding back in and they get all the crap that we predicted and the pre, uh, the pre all. And so it’s, it’s a lot of the, uh, apparently it’s a lot of the last scenes that they weren’t, uh, entirely, they couldn’t quite get to the point where they were happy with how the cuts went and all that kind of stuff. And they’ve had since the thing, like, they’ve, they always said, Hey, we wish we would’ve had three more months to, to edit this movie, or at least another month or two to edit this movies released, one that were done in a, in arbitrary number one, software was released when it was done. That’s, that’s my point. Like I like, I, I get it. Like I, I understand the challenge that they were faced with. Um, but yeah, I, dude, I, I’m all about it. I want to see it. I want it. Gimme it, I don’t know. I don’t know that I would go back into the theaters to watch it. No, I mean it would be a new experience, but okay. Experience hitting pause and going [inaudible] so like, that’s, I’m not a hypocrite. Like I’ve said, dude, once you break that dude, I’m pissed about two hour movies, let alone, you know, like end game was over three kiss my ass. Like there’s no, if you’re going to put a three hour movie out in theaters, you got damn well better. Have an intermission somewhere. Love intermissions spend more money at the theater to buy more snacks and watch it all go into the lobby. I was driving that, so I had to watch the Irishman in three parts. Three. I still haven’t watched it. I refused just to spite. It’s not bad. It’s am I the only one here that doesn’t go to the bathroom every 50 minutes. Y’all get off dude, in the course of a three hour movie, dude, especially movie theaters today. What are you doing? Okay, well how corn salt, hold your pee. No, what is, what is, what is our star Wars experience? Let’s meet at the bar two hours before the movie. Let’s have a bunch of drinks. Let’s say, let’s hang out. Let’s do that. And then we get to the theater. Oh, I can get drinks here at the theater and the giant 40 Starbucks Coke 44 ounce freestyle. Exactly. Yeah, but then you get, dude, can we talk Randy, you have the little old machines, the little machine thing that you can like make your own sodas. Yeah. Randy has barcodes on his phone. He’s got QR codes saved on his phone, so all he has to do is walk up to the machine, wave his phone, and it creates his custom drink for him. It’s the Coca Cola app. You make your custom blends in the app. You say exactly like I want [inaudible]. I can’t believe I didn’t bring this up in the recap show, if your Facebook updates aren’t shine enough, I’ve got to learn this about you. Or you can say, I want this. I buy, I bought spice today. I admire and I want the spice. I wanted Brady’s Facebook page two hours later. My dinner wasn’t as good as I tended to be. Like you can say I want [inaudible] 37% Coca-Cola zero and 22 and he’s got more than one saved. He has a roster. He’s got a roster, Randy push cherry Coke like normal people. Vanilla, cherry Coke if you want to be daring. So yes, that’s that’s, that’s, that was my, that was my Randy discovery, uh, dirty during the, during the movie scenes. Talking about adding back in though are pretty interesting though. Like fixing the pacing issues during the first well in all of that and bringing like and so like one of the, one of the bitches about this movie is that Rose is, isn’t in the movie at all. Well most of the Rose scenes that they set up or with Leah that cause she was back at the base and Jim will be happy to know that they’re bringing the walks back to help out Poe and Finn cause I know [inaudible] will be in there and Jim’s got theories on UX. Like no, there isn’t a guitar. He can write it until your book. I believe on the [inaudible] go ahead. You don’t want you, am I putting you on the spot? Well what about the walks? I have a lot of theories. Go ahead. Give me one that you walk one, they’re just meat eating. Like even bastards. Yeah. No, they’re not cannibals murder bears. They’re the creepy bears that we see at comic cons all the time. Exactly. [inaudible] at the end of the movie, they’re all banging on the Stormtrooper heads. It’s like drums. Like they got, yeah, they were happy. They were happy. They got meat. So I look at them as they’re the only group in star Wars that defeated Luke and the emperor. If they had space travel, they would only galaxy. They are the most vicious creatures. I gotcha. I mean just what they can do with a rock and a stick. If you gave them a gun. They had lasers were all bone. Although I did come up with one plot hole that I can’t get past cause I was, I was arguing with Dennis about the whole thing. Um, so how did, how did Ray or how did, how did uh, Kylo join Ray? How, Oh, I saw you type that as cause she, so they’re arguing and he destroys the second way finder. She steals his ship that has the only other Wayfinder and yet he winds up on exit goal. Maybe he remembered that cause he went last time he left breadcrumbs. But tie fighters don’t have hyper drives. His cook is not new. No it did not because it was a DS too. It was a old era. Shitty fighter. Yeah. They don’t have hyper drives. So how, how do you get there? How [inaudible] space wizard. I’m just, he remembered I, Amanda, he left a crumbs force connection to feel the way still, but he wouldn’t have made it there in shot. That’ll be explained. [inaudible] made it there in time. Photographic memory. He just knows. But he wouldn’t have made it there in time. No. Hyperdrive if Ray’s came back from the future and then bang John Connor’s mom. And how did she give birth to John Connor? No, he’d be there to begin with. That’s why time travel is a bitch. Thank you. Yes. Um, can we talk about work real quick? Sure. Um, all of my cybersecurity friends were like in an uproar today on how Cisco had a bad day. Oh yeah. Who is buying Cisco security. And you know my, I got some friends over there, Dave, sorry. Uh, he’s going to have a bad day. Um, but apparently, uh, if you are running Cisco data center manager, uh, basically there, there are 120 vulnera vulnerabilities they found and passwords were in essence hard-coded meaning, uh, you can basically bypass out basic authentication and just kind of get in. So, uh, if you’ve got Cisco [inaudible] stuff and especially data center network manager, uh, go patch your shit and do it. Now speaking of things being open, I want to talk about not all heroes wear capes. I want to talk about Katelyn ward. Oh, not all heroes wear anything apparently. So Katelyn molar is a dude. She is a beautiful, beautiful woman. She really, she really, eh, as, as, as, as the country folk. I know. Say she cranks my tractor. Uh, and, and she’s a, so she was an Instagram thing. It’s all Snapchat filters and lighting, you know. No, no, they did. That’s not that, that’s not possible. Um, but no. So she’s got a ton of followers on Instagram and she was actually using her powers for good, not evil. And she said, Hey, look, uh, if you can prove to me that you’ve donated at least $10 to the Australian fire rescue and recovery efforts, um, I will DM you a nude pic. Uh, she raised $500,000 in about two and a half days before Instagram shut down her account for violating. Here’s the best part. She didn’t even post that she posted on Twitter that, Hey, if you do this, I will TM you a nude photo. And Instagram apparently found out about it and shut down her Instagram account. She raised over a hundred thousand dollars in a day. When I talk about in, uh, this talk about black and white and a little bit of gray area, this is where time, where Instagram is, you know, fine, but let’s release the hounds. We’re helping out some people making some money. Who cares? We’re not hurting nobody, right? Right. Just like instead of being like, no. And you know who stopped it? I know what the picture looks like too. It’s that boardroom with all the, with the haircut like me girls with a flannel shirt. Like there’s a girl that says she’s gonna raise your buddy for us. I’ll show you in fires by posting. Like sending DMS over dude, knock it off. We know a part of it. Um, speaking of cut off, did you see about Sharon Stone? Hilarious. Okay, so inside here I’ve got a conspiracy about it too. I have a question. No, no, I got it. I got a theory. Go ahead. Okay, so I have a question. Like I, dude, I’m, I’m not Bumble familiar. I thought I thought Bumble integrated with Facebook. And so you already had an authentication layer there like that, did it not? I think you could do it both ways if I’m not, most of them are like blogging. This is why Randy is familiar with it. Yeah, no. Most of those sites are login with [inaudible]. So I did, I, I, I thought it was like, Hey, if you have Facebook, you log in that way and it’s a thing. Uh, but yeah. Okay. So, so the, the story is Sharon Stone, basic instinct. We all know her, uh, sliver, pick your movie, whatever was on Bumble and got kicked off because apparently a large number of people went, Oh, that’s bullshit. And reported the profile is fake. While my theory, this has been a paid advertisement from Bumble, they got more PR Nolan, if you’re not talking about Bumble, you sure as shit are now and especially if you live in like so cow and now you think you got a shot at like Sharon Stone and she just took topless pictures at 61 is still looked fricking insanely awesome. Um, yeah, I know you signed up, right? I totally did it straight to you. Straight to Google with my San Diego, with my, uh, whatever where it looked up, whatever new Hollywood Hills, a address that I faked. Um, but I think, no, to me it like how would it have gotten, like where did, what happened? Here’s the thing, if Sharon Stone was on Bumble and got kicked off, she would’ve been like whatever and use something else or whatever. Like how did it get out where, this is like a national news story where we have two assholes in Detroit on an it show talking about it. That’s what I’m talking about. But it’s hilarious cause we’ve talked about all of the stupid like fake dating profiles on all that shit. And so you know, I get it like it’s, I can, I can legitimately see this chain of events happening where like people at Bumble would be like, yeah, there’s no way in hell that Sharon Stone kill it. Why won’t they instead of killing it? Why did they ask her? Because who in the tech support department of Bumble? It’s going to have Sharon Stone’s digits. Oh no. He got an email address going and we need verification. Right. And all the time, whatever you’ve got to do a hold up a picture next to your boobies with, with your user name. It’s a faker vacation photos. So since she reported it actually a Marvel stars, he moved, Lou asked her out. He’s going to be in the new start in the new Shane sheet movie from Marvel. Oh, I’m sorry. So, so he’s not a Marvel star yet. He’s confirmed, but so he’s, but he’s not, he’s the actor playing a Marvel character in a new character. Yes. Like the frickin CGI, Rakuten. Great. Bradley Cooper. The raccoons going to get shares also third rate care here that skyrocketed. So race iron man before the movie, stupid. And man, it was a third grade character. Lesbian man was way below. He was at the trash can, the 70s. He sucked. Nobody wanted to be iron man. When we were kids. You wanted to shoot shit out of your arm like Spiderman or be the incredible Hulk and get punch people. That’s all. Superman wasn’t even that big. Um, can you, can you, can we do an experiment? Buy me something. I mean, I don’t ask for much and I’m cropped up. I’m sitting on the stupid couch. I’m sleeping, but I’m sorry, we back to the fart pill. I want to buy the far pill. So basically it’s an ingestible pill and it looks like a, it looks like a whatever, a Tylenol or whatever the shit that I’m taking for. Okay. If we could do live updates to the it and that he Facebook can, you know, you can track your track part development in real time on your phone. Only if they’re only, if there’s a way we can stream this, but I don’t know, like I don’t, so here’s the thing, I just, here’s the, but like you’re eating healthier now and you’re not like you’re not you, like I ate a big Mac last week, but like here’s the thing, like it’s, they’ve already see, I don’t get like intestinal wind patterns and gaseous Turpin turbulence from different foods. Like we all know at this point in our lives, what gives us gas and what doesn’t. I’m just being honest. It sound like this is some grants tries. I don’t pay attention to walk. It makes me far. I did, I just a, I did introduce my, uh, my six year old daughter to the Kenny versus penny episode, which you could bowl the biggest fart and the one guy stuck surgical hose up his anus and then ripped off like a minute and half fired if you’ve never seen it. It was that MTV like eight years ago. And uh, it was probably, it’s one of the greatest, it still makes me laugh like right. Can’t breathe. Um, just cause they’ll look on his face and he um, Kenny versus spending and look at our loudest fart. Um, but this is like now, now that ours tenant cause as being funny cause it’s like two tracker for their pilot study. They beefed up a prototype. I think this is like a intern that’s writing this. It’s of course, but it’s serious. It’s a small little pill and uh, and you could track it on your phone. So the, I’ll just eat a bunch of popcorn and some broccoli and drink a couple paps and I’ll figure into the pill stays in, I dunno. Before you try, it doesn’t come. You have no idea part. They said the human trial, they had researchers had one Gulf, the pill twice. The first time he ate a high fiber diet, two days prior to swallowing the pill. Two days later he gulped another pill after eating a low fiber diet and then they show like the chart. But it looks like it’s, I don’t know. Maybe this isn’t fun. It looks like it’d be fun. It’s kinda like what? I drank fleet when I had a day off and it wasn’t fun. Oh, you were not a happy person and it was a bad day. I just thought it was like, I thought it’d be like one nice. No, that escalated quickly. Yeah, I know. Absolutely. Yeah. This does. This doesn’t click a second. I wonder if you can, I want to sign up though. Oh, there is in Australia or in New Zealand right now. Maybe he can be a test a Jessica and she’s looks, sounds like she’s bored. We’ll, we’ll see if we can get one over to an area in New Zealand. Okay, good. By the way, did you see he a replicated Detroit County chili? Like from scratch, you bought a beef heart from a butcher and like ground it and let it look legit as hell. I’m like, I could’ve just sent you a couple of bricks. He’s like, I’m feeding 200 people at a burn. It’s a couple of bricks. Yeah. Hi. Nary hope you’re doing well. Um, Oh by the way, since it’s, I’m the one weird thing that I uh, since it’s 2020 right now, basically they said don’t ever sign your checks. Like one, one 20. Right. Because people can add in, which I didn’t think about either. Honestly. No honesty. So it’s not about checks like so checks dude, if I sign a check one, one 20 and somebody puts a 19 at the end of it, it’s immediately stale dated because checks are not valid for like after 180 days done, but contracts and that kind of stuff. Yeah, that matters. We’re sure all of it was an issue last year with people changing 19 to 1999 or 1998 or making contract 10 years old or yes. I don’t know. I don’t think it’s just something to talk about on the news. Randy’s going to say it’s something that somebody like shower thought and it took off traction. Buzzfeed got ahold of it. Asteroids. Bastards. There were three tweets about it. Oh, by the way, before we get out, I’m just kind of a big deal. The, another Cambridge analytical leak, a hit, I don’t know if you, um, you saw it, 100,000 documents lead from the Cambridge Analytica files, which basically proved they co-opted 87 million Facebook profiles. But it’s not just like, you know, interfering with us elections. This is a, this is kind of like a global thing. They got into like weird countries, dude. Whoa. I’m like, but we knew that the great hack, right? Well, no, because if you ask anyone on the street, they’re gonna go, Roshan due to the Russians meddled in our election, no, Cambridge Analytica did Facebook and Google. But now this thing’s on such a wider scale then we could have ever, um, yeah, elections in Malaysia, Kenya, Brazil. Um, just like, yeah, the great, Hey, if you haven’t seen the greatest, basically just proves out what the great accent. I mean that we’ll watch. Have you seen a gym Avenue? Oh yeah. It’s basically, you know, yeah. They did it in 12 other countries before they came here. Yeah. And it’s going to happen again. Yeah. So stop looking at social media before you vote. You want to take your campaigning now is social media. Indeed. It’s a great way to market. I totally get why they’re doing it. I don’t know why they’re just spending it on TV there. Um, yeah, exactly. When you could do it in social media and actually manipulate stuff. So Hey, uh, we’re going to take a quick break. We’re going to be back. Jim Alison, we’re going to be talking about the Guinness book of world records on a gaming. This is the it in that he shouted. Cam. People are just waiting with bated breath. I’m just telling her forward. All right. See in a minute guys. I see. And that the raids meets. Listen, networking Detroit one day at a time. Hey, this is John Schneider from nip tuck Smallville, the haves and have nots. So Dr. Quinn hot in Cleveland secret lives, the American teenager and just about everything you can possibly imagine and Oh yeah, the Dukes of hazard. You’re listening to Bob and Dave. See it in the D show. I T [inaudible] dot com Hey, welcome back segment two episode three 29 this is the one and only it and at each show broadcasting live here in studio one in podcast. He traded beautiful Royal Oak, Michigan. Bob the sales guy, Dave the geek. Randy. I do the Twitters. Find us online it in the DDA com you want to know why? Cause it’s 2020 and we still are it in the day and seven years later we’re still not, we still like talking about you. He’s still there. Are you? Are you still there? I used to listen to you see that we almost bought a billboard last year. We might do it this year. Just for, for you on your way into work? I still, I still love telling this story. Somebody asked me if, uh, we’re actually as petty as we pretend to be sometimes. And I’m like, well, we still spend about 20 to 25 seconds of every episode talking about people that pissed us off seven years ago. Pretty much. But Hey, we are a, we’re very lucky to be joined by, uh, Jim Alison. I thought, uh, Jim and Dave would immediately strike, you know, you remind me of each other in your, uh, your nerdy and geeky ways. Um, but, but Jim [inaudible] hit him too. No, not, not nearly as much. John couldn’t eat anyone as much as I hate you. Um, no, but, uh, Jim brought up like, Hey, I have a Guinness world record and I’m like, wait, what? And you know, and I know we, we, you know, we have a lot of fun, uh, arguments or you know, theories and things like that nature, but like owning a Guinness record, it’s kind of a thing, I guess. And it’s for gaming. Yeah. For the longest running online gaming Guild. Salted mouthful. Right. But how did anyone not, did, did people quit? Or like, I guess, how did you be the first one and then be the last one standing? Like, I guess, talk to me through how that thing a, how it started and be, how it, how you didn’t, you know, so I didn’t even know it was a thing. Um, but, um, our Guild has been around since the early nineties and I, that some other Guild had posted that they’re the longest running online gaming Guild and they still like any good geek. Yeah. Nah, like, wait a minute, we’ve been around for a while, so I’m expecting them to be from a, like a mud in the 80s. You know, something really, really old. Right. But they’re from Ultima online. I’m like, well, that’s, um, that’s not that old. Yeah, it is. You know, depending on how old you are. But for me, um, you know, we started in, in a couple of games before Ultima online even came out. Um, so I’m like, okay, let me challenge this. And that was an experience. Um, it took two years to challenge the record. It ain’t easy. Uh, especially when you’re talking about, um, going back before the internet existed. Right. So, um, Eunice came back and said, okay, you want to challenge the record? Cool. Um, I need to see proof that your guilt has been around longer than it was. It need to have so many people in it or just it needed to be a Guild. It needed to be a guilt, um, the same name and that it was constantly, um, active. Okay. So for those keeping score at home, cause I always try to make sure we dumb this down. An online gaming Guild is, it’s a group of people that play a game together. Okay. So more or less it’s a gang. It’s a gang. Sometimes they’re called clans and other gangs or whatever it is. It’s, so it’s a group of, um, you know, internet friends that are nerds and play games. Uh, so Guinness is, requirements was show proof that you’ve been around every single year for your claim. Okay. And I’m like, okay, we go back to 1991. Okay. So the year though that, that’s one thing. Do they D do you need to check in once a month? Is it need to be like Odie was yearly cause I wondered about that cause like how do you show constant activity? 365 days a year? Cause we all take vacations. We played one day. But my challenge was we go back to um, Neverwinter nights. That was a game on uh, AOL. God, yeah, you guys remember it. Um, Neverwinter nights was essentially one of the gold box games. Uh, you know, the pool of radians, Kearsley, Azure bonds, those type of games. That was multiplayer. So forgiveness, I needed to start pick a start date cause this group had it from 96 so you can spend multiple games though, as long as you’re okay. As long as we were consistent. Right? So I needed to find proof that we were around in AOL, never winter nights. How the heck do you do? Oh my God. God. Right. Like there’s no record of it. The internet doesn’t even go back that far. Um, so I lucked out. There is a fan site that’s still up, some guy that loved the game. And the game published newsletters every month. So, uh, this is really terrible. Mid nineties website dude hasn’t touched it in 20 years. Geo city has got the [inaudible] construction guy, right. So I’m going through these newsletters and I’m like, there’s gotta be a reference to our Guild. That’s the only thing I can really use as proof. And sure enough there were three entries in the game’s newsletters of someone in our Guild winning a tournament or doing whatever. So I’m like, okay, I got my start point, which was 1995 is I think as far back as I could prove it. Okay. We went to 91 but I mean there’s nothing that far back you can actually prove then it was how do you prove every year up until the present. That was rough. A lot of these games that, you know, we were playing like Meridian closed down and then got released. Not like you’re taking screencaps and saving stuff cause you can fake that right. Takes this stuff really serious. I mean I’ve, I’ve got Iomega zip drives with stuff that dates you a little bit. I’m just saying he has window a window. Me boot desks if you happen to have a good, I have windows 95 boot disks if you need them. No, I don’t need them. I have, I have comp. You serve three one installs. I have dos six Oh one. I think I still have my diskettes if you need them. I still have those too. If you have a computer that’ll read those floppies five and a quarter one. I have those. And uh, the three, four fours. Okay. I was just telling Jim my uh, my first official hack, um, when I was 10 years old, when you on a Commodore you could hit control, run, stop really hard like three times and open the code and I changed lemonade stand. I’d probably tell this story 8,000 times on the podcast, but yeah, change in lemonade, stand there like P P standard. I made it all potty words. Then you saved it and then yeah, I’ve gotten a lot of screaming going on. I love it. I wish they’d go back and see. That’s the thing like time machine. Like, I would go back and like just do stupid like trolley shit like that. I wouldn’t be malicious or like I’d bet on a couple of Superbowls but like that stuff I would do all over it. Yeah. All day. Um, so you, how did you find all that stuff now? Like your back, your 97 games gone? Yeah, so that was, um, I got lucky. I had, um, one of our Guild members back in the 90s when you got internet, they gave you that stupid free website that your ISP would give you and that they’d give you like, you know, 10 megs. Um, I found that LinkedIn centric, I think mine’s still probably out there somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. So his site’s dead. So I’m like darn it. But I have the link to his old ISP. Uh, and then I use the Wayback machine. Got, we’ve got archive.org archive.org. I did a ton of that going into the mid nineties, late nineties, all the way to present when we started having more, more, um, accessible content. Um, but that was a two year project and then [inaudible] comes back and it’s like, that’s really cool. I don’t know what to do with this data. So you give me all these links, all these screenshots, go find two industry experts to validate this and tell us that you’re telling us the truth. So wouldn’t that be their job? Right. Um, but I, I don’t think they ever expected anyone to challenge this. Like, this is probably the first time it was challenged and they don’t know what to do. Right. They’re like, we need an expert. Cause like we, we just want to do like the world’s largest frittata. Like we’re, yeah. I think it’s burrito. Right? Those are things that are, you still won’t do a world’s largest BM or longest, no, I don’t have that 32 Kinex. No. Oh yeah. Randy Marsh beat him. Yeah, that’s right. I went to one in the hospital, but I didn’t have a Metro dude after. Uh, I would, I, I pray for the souls of anyone who works in that hospital. After you were backed up on pain pills for a week. We do a whole podcast just talking about that story anyway. Did you weigh yourself before and after? Yes, because the bed has a scale. How much I lost 24 pounds. I lost, uh, from, from minute. Yep. [inaudible] day one until the last day I left. But yeah, I didn’t do before and after. Yes. Opportunity man. I know, I know. It’s been a lifetime. No, hold on. Nurse. I want to check the weight on the back. I got to go ahead and go. No, but wait, so who was your who, what industry experts like who was that? Richard Garriott who? I’m kind of the father of computer RPGs. Okay. Started with the ultimate series. Um, he made Ultima online. Um, he may tabula rasa, which didn’t really do as well. Uh, so he goes back to like the late nineties, our, I’m sorry, late seventies with his first game has been kind of renowned as like the father of computer RPGs. So him and then a developer who did Wildstar. They both looked at the stuff. Um, they came back with a couple of questions cause the name did change a little bit. Uh, we were originally the order of the Crimson cross and then some games have a limit on how long large name can be used. So we shortened it to Crimson cross or the Crimson cross. Right. You know, they were kind of questioning that. One guy was like, Hey, how do I know it’s not just a couple of guilds with the same name unrelated. You need to pull up the roster of who was a member. Like all right, let me go back to the way back machine. We’ll dig this up dude. See it only a geek. We’ll go this deep just to prove they’re right. Yeah. That’s like two or like he is my people point. I’ve put so much time into it. I have to see it. No, no, no, no. Now, now it’s just screw you. No, we’re, we’re, we’re doing this. Yeah. Yeah. You got a question? I’ve got time. I’m a geek, right? Yeah, that’s what I have plenty of. Uh, so yeah, they, they finally accepted it. Check the box. And now we have it. So I’m a Guinness world record holder, um, changed my life in many, many ways. I was going to say at this point it got me on your show. Oh yeah. Big time. No, but I was like, wah, what do you like to do to break it? Now they’re like this. They’re going to, it’s going to be like, especially you’re running, what’s the latest one you’re running like the last, you’re doing star Wars heroes, star Wars, galaxy heroes, division two. And we have people in world of Warcraft. That’s the game you’re trying to talk me into. I just told you I was playing [inaudible] and pay the time. It’s a, it’s, it’s, here’s what I’ve learned. Like I’ve, I’ve decided you’re no longer even playing clash of clans. No, I’m done with class. And you’re not even playing clash Royale. I am every day. Really. I, I just assumed that it’s going to be another game where you’re going to suck me into it and I’m going to get obsessed and then you’re going to abandon me. He’s still bitter cause mafia Wars. He probably spent enough money to buy new trends and not really know. Here’s, here’s Bob’s emo and this. This is literally why I’m on Facebook. So I like, I steadfastly avoid Facebook like nobody’s business. I was like, I don’t want it. I don’t want any part of it. And then a 4th of July weekend, many, many moons ago, Bob calls me up and he was like, dude, would you just stop being Amish and get on Facebook? And I’m like, no, it’s not going to happen. He’s like, well, it smells like Oh, six ish. Yeah. And he’s like, but there’s this stupid game called mafia Wars that I’m addicted to. And like, you’re that guy. I need your help. Just come help me. All right, flash forward three months. I’ve got spreadsheets and six accounts running and all this other crap going. You still have your second account, uh, alive. Your fake account on Facebook. The one with the, you’re a David R. Phillips. No, that dude, that was my original account. That was your mafia Wars. No, that was, that was the account I created to come help your ass. He and then three months later he’s like, yo, don’t play that anymore. We’ll make clash of clans. I’ve been playing for like six years and my, my fences are like at like four. It sucks. It takes forever. I’m done. I show how to play every day. Um, but no, the heroes, um, galaxy heroes, this is one like I started it and it takes forever. And in the hospital I basically, that’s all I played all day. Cause what else am I going to do? And now I’m up to like level 70, so when I was kinda like starting to be fun a little bit. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that’s the one where you’ll hate it and you’ll, you’ll, you’ll, you’ll dive into it. You know, I’m, I’m not falling into the other game. I, you got me in a clash Royale. I, dude, I have, I, I’ve, I have, but like you far exceeded. I go, I have a Sith rule when it comes to games only. There are two, hold on. This is, this is my conversation. Hey man, you might like clash Royale. It’s like a three minute, like a two minute game. It’s quick. You can do like you’d be done with a couple. Dave just doesn’t stop right there. No, he’s in party mode. He’s in like doing it cause I learned like nonstop cause once you get me into a game then I’m like Oh well if I play this mode in this game then I can get extra stuff to do that. And yeah, it’s like way I treat it though. It’s like okay I’m just playing out. Like once I just be like one or two games a day and then I’m done. And you know, you’re like seriously he doesn’t, if I’m gonna do shit I do shit do it right. You jump into it, you learn the mechanics, you figure out how to maximize your time and effort. You don’t play a game for six years and have level four walls. [inaudible] Bob does. I do. So I mean I’m looking at this list of all these games you played with, you know, between Meridia and Ultima online. Never went. It was there. Like we were talking before the show and I’m like, mine was like age of empires too. Yeah, that’ll be my, that’s my forever game. Do you like, do you have the, your forever game or is this, this is like a whatever, like you’re playing now or I guess which one is it like you’re going to take to the grave with you? I think it’s going to be Meridian now. What was, I never heard of it. What was that? Um, so that was a, you remember doom in the nineties? Uh, that was the style of graphics. It was the very first 3d um, MMO, RPG released by company 3d O which, um, became a very profane word. Is it gone? Uh, yes and no. Um, 3d [inaudible] ran it into the ground. Uh, they were the first to market, a great position to be in. Right. Ultima online has the IP, Richard Gary, it’s a well known figure back then. He’s releasing Ultima online. Meridian is, I don’t know what their marketing department thought they were 10 bucks a month. So Ultima online releases. And if I remember this right, and I’m pretty sure I have this right, they released their new billing model, $2 and 50 cents a day. If you play three times in a week, you get the rest of the week free. So we’re all like what we do the math, we’re like that’s 30 bucks a month every day. Yeah. So we’re all like screw you, we’re going to go play Ultima online. Cause it’s one third the price. The executives actually hailed this as a brilliant marketing move. They said when we changed pricing, we tripled the price. We lost half our players, but we tripled our price. Sure. And made more money. They didn’t realize that without players and online game is not pointless. Right? Yeah. So it just went down the toilet. Um, three D O went under and then the original developers, a couple of them bought the rights and they’ve launched it like 2002 and it’s still running today. It’s open source, has a decently active community, um, making mods to it, adding onto it. But it was really, really fun as a game. It was very innovative even today. So now are you like me where I always sit and wax poetic about empire two and then I always, I tell stories about SOCOM too all the time on PlayStation two 88 versus eight you only got one gun per class and then we’d talk about, you know, there was the first game of you had a headset and you’re screaming and like to me that, I don’t know if it’s just a nostalgia thing, there was need for speed carbon for me. Like that’s, we’ve talked about this but is this standard thing or is it like, cause that was like, cause I like honestly so like to me that was like need for speed. Carbon was the, I can’t do online gaming. Like that was like, that was what I was like, yeah, no that’s crack. And, and, and like timespace distortion for me. Like I, I would go downstairs and think I was playing for like 30 minutes and it would be six hours and I’m screaming at some ten-year-old that I’m going to by his house and bang his mom if he doesn’t stop messing with me. Part about SOCOM too was it was all the post bar bar tenders and we would get home from the bar at three in the morning. We would play til like seven in the morning and it was like there was eight of us and it just became like this thing. Like there was two guys, snipers, two guys were runners too, you know. And we had plans and we had talked about a day at the bar before the shift and the afterwards when we going home. Yeah I know we go over to the house and we’d all let you that we, you know, we’d go to Al’s and we’d all have one of the big land party. No cause we just did like four different, it wasn’t that much of other 11 party Johnny. Yeah. She’d always be in his bedroom and close the door. I don’t know what he was doing in there, like we’d be in the kitchen or whatever. But that was like, to me that was like the pinnacle of all of it, like play and now I just, honestly it’s gotten so far gone. I just watch videos like of like trolling campers and laugh, like it’s gotten his, I mean, are you tired of anything yet or is it gotten to that point? Like to me, I couldn’t play, you couldn’t pay me enough to play a first person shooters instead of like Battlefront two. I’ll play anything else. You couldn’t pay me enough right now. I mean, Meridian, I still jump into it every now and then, but the graphics are so dated. But I think probably because it was my first MMO, the experiences are just kind of a know they stick with you. Right. Um, and they did, um, a lot of unique things. Um, some of the cool stuff that I remember is based on the terrible technology of the 90s. We’re talking like 14, four and 28, eight modems. Sure. So, um, it’s 3d with doom graphics and there was lag all over the place. You just, that was normal. So when you see a guy running, it would look like when he cut a corner, he’d actually pop on top of the building and then dropped down from your perspective. So it looked like they were jumping, right. So in the game, every new player would say, Hey, how do you jump? And every server had the same answer. Hit Alta for Doug. You can see the new player, you know, new player just logged off, new player logged in and he’s like, Hey, my game crashed. And we’re like, yeah, your computer sucks. You got to get a better computer. And he’s like, how do you jump all that forward? Crushed again. We did this with so many people. Like those are the little things that I just remember kind of trolling them. Um, yeah. Now as I’m older I’m like, I’m a jerk. Right? But it was the way Glen Miller play format. See that’s how you fix your computer RM. But his star might’ve, sorry. They had um, a lot of interesting systems in the game. Like when you play, wow. Um, you start and some lady lost her necklace, you find it, return it. When I start, same quest when you start, same thing. Sure. So the person haven’t really lost their necklace. It’s like you’re all doing the same thing, but it didn’t really happen in the world, right. With Meridian, the world was ever changing. They just put a bunch of systems in and watched us like beat each other up. Um, so you had a Guild, which traditional group of friends and then they had political system where based on what role you were, you joined a different, uh, either the princess or the King or the rebel guy based on, yes. So what you would have is we all, all four of us here in a Guild, but we’re all following different political leaders and so we’ll kill each other to help our political party out. And I, I remember there was a game in assassin. I was like, let’s go into the bar. What a priority. Play right over your ass. There was this mini game. They had assassins game. Y’all get a dagger, it has somebody random name on it and you gotta stab them with it to kill them. Or you have to stab the guy that has your name. You have no clue who it is. And I’m playing this game. It’s pretty new. And I’m like the top four or five, right. There’s hardly anybody left in the game. I’m trying to figure out who else is in there and my Gill leader calls an emergency meeting. I’m like, okay, this is weird. What’s going on? Are we like going to declare war on somebody, walk into our Guildhall and my buddy is waiting for me, stabs me and kills me to win the game. I’m like, dude, like we’re we’re friends. You just burdened me. Those are the types of things that, you know, it’s just, it was really cool at the time cause I never saw that before I was playing single player games for BBS games. It was amazing to have that level of intricacy where even my friends I didn’t trust but you know we got along after that. I was like laughing about it, you know. But it’s like dude you killed me. I wasn’t thinking about that. Like today, like the guy I had been watching lately on YouTube happens to have like 1,000,002 subscribers just cause he like does funny things. Like, again, if we would have like had the technology to be able to like tape recorder, like stream or broadcast half the crap we did online. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like these guys are making just killings. Just, you know, Oh, I’m going to, you know, hit, hit him with a defibrillator while he’s sniping. Ah, I don’t want to laugh. You know what I mean? Like, but I watch it, I laugh. You know what I mean? Yeah. Which, you know, going back to the stuff that we used to do, like I couldn’t imagine on SOCOM too, if we would’ve been able to stream that stuff. How hilarious that would’ve been, you know? Or maybe not banned from everything. I would have probably been bad. Like, uh, you know? Yeah. Like Facebook now is banding everyone for everything. We’ve gotta talk about that next week. All right, so are we talking about anything work related or we just like, this is where we’re going for the night. I’m just, I’m just curious. What do you want to talk about? I don’t know. I’m just, I like, like are we just, is this a nerd? Fast are we [inaudible] right. What do you think the show is? I don’t know. I found your Guild website. You haven’t actually mentioned the name of your Guild Crips and cross. Yeah, no, he had mentioned it several times. He was talking about like the length thing and the shortening and the, yeah, the grossing, the width versus length. Yeah. Yeah. He mentioned the part, I remember the name hanging out with Dave DLT. Just did you just pull the Dave? Well, day Jay, so like you know, day job, Jim’s a principal engineer. Basically he’s been, you know, running the entire walks around saying how do I reach these servers? Totally. So you basically screws the vendors and he says yes and no and we’re going to use this and not that and you suck and you’re a horrible engineer and you’re a good one and hashtag equals yeah, exactly. Yeah. Building another data center for dr right now was kind of my, my day to day and then trying to keep out of trouble. Wow, that’s, that’s, so you’re working overtime. Yes, it is. What you’re saying. It happened. It was nice when he was gone for a couple of weeks. Ah, come on. All right. I can relate. I hate all of you feelings mutual Bob now, but Jim, Jim’s the one that’ll stop and he’ll start and have this collaborate and listen. Yeah. He’ll have these conversations on things that are completely things you’d never thought you’d ever think about, let alone have a deep dark discussion on like with the walks and then he gets into something else and then he’ll just walk away and like, you’ll be like, what in the hell did I just talk about for the last 10 minutes is that’s, you know, that’s Jim in a nutshell. Shower thoughts those. Yeah, indeed. I mean, I hate saying this, but like the job was, I can’t tell them apart, but they all look the same. It’s not just me then. Right? Yeah, no, they do like, I felt terrible. But even in the Mandalorian exactly. Like I, I couldn’t, was that the same one he met earlier or not? Like, so now apparently, uh, Mandalorian they did the giggles and it made me angry. Huh. If you watch the Java episode and the Mandalorian, they did a couple minion giggles. Oh, with the, with the ag. Yeah. So, but apparently, uh, rumor has it made a look split open way too easily. [inaudible] to Neely. There was no like broken edges. Jay was sort, it was a it, eh, Oh. So Mandalorian season two is apparently going to bridge the gap between, uh, or at least bridge the gap into a Palpatine showing up in rise of Skywalker leg. So that’s, that’s the latest thing that’s been swirling is, that’s why Gideon is looking for Yoda is he’s the one who finds Palpatine’s body. That’s why I was really angry. I didn’t watch the cartoons cause that’s where the dark Sabre came from, the cartoons. And I was like, ah dude. So like dude, clone Wars has did a good job setting that up. Um, rebels is getting better and better and like I do, I like, I, I, I, and I, I’m okay saintly. I’m pretty sure my next tattoo is going to be a soca. Like, dude, she’s there. Just wait, just wait. Oh no, I, I, I know cause I’ve read like that’s, I mean, so here’s the sad part. I read the book and I haven’t watched, I haven’t gotten to that point, rebels yet. Um, but it’s like, that’s like there’s a whole underpinning there where you’re like, Holy shit. Like is, is that one of the reasons why? And it can goes to the dark side. Like that’s cause he doesn’t have that counterbalance. He doesn’t have his Palawan. He doesn’t have that. Like, Oh, it’s like for what? For what dude? Like clone Wars. Like when you like go watch, like it is ha, like it adds so many layers. I watch the OB mall stuff like, do you know, did I like, skipped around, but I didn’t follow the story. Watch it portrays the Jetta eyes as not the good guys. Ah, well one of the point as like the clueless idiots that we now know them to be. Yes. Like you, like how did you, okay. Yeah. Oh, he’s going to rebalance the forest. That means all the bad guys are going to be gone. No, a million of you. Then you have the, uh, Morgan Freeman. But that’s not what that meant. That was the worst. Morgan has even a person as we all know, the whole trial of a soul Catano at the end of clone Wars or towards the end. And I was like, season five. Yeah. And then when she leaves like that, I was like, that’s amazing. Like she’s the dude that was like that again, which brings me back to, I’m pretty sure that’s going to be my next tattoo. Like dude, like that was such a greatly, I’ve, I’ve, I got my daughter in a Lake soil and just like I’ve always said, like my, my, my star Wars thing is now wrapped around how my kids see them and I forced my daughter to sit down and like watch cloners with me. She is so into that character and like, cause it’s, dude, it’s, it’s a 14 year old girl who’s a Jedi Palawan and, and, and it’s funny like reading the, uh, like reading the interviews with the voice actor and we did the interviews with, you know, the were, they didn’t know where that was going to go. Season one and, and so then the evolution to cause like season one, it’s like, you know, tube top micro skirt. Yeah. And then season three they evolve the character a little bit different outfits different this, different that and it becomes a more mature character. And then that whole arc from season three to season five is just, it’s amazing. It’s so good. Like I yeah I I did not like that. They used her voice in a riser. Skywalker though. Why? She’s not a Jedi. But do you know that? Yeah, she was, she left the order and then you’re going to find out what happened to him. But Canon came back, Canaan came back, he was [inaudible] I wasn’t, he uh, he was paddle on, right. Yeah. And wasn’t like really, really, he wasn’t really a Jetta and just took on an apprentice. Yeah. But he didn’t leave the order cause you know, he didn’t say, Hey, the jet eyes are terrible. There is so from here and here’s what I understand. This is what I now between the book, the cartoons and everything else, there is nothing in cannon that says she couldn’t have found her way back. You are listening to special bonus footage of the cause. I like it. And for what it’s worth cause dude, like I, I tried to get, I tried to get him a star Wars episode by the way. Red. I know, I know where the story goes. I know rebels that I do. I know where the story goes. Alright. And you’re, you’re stretching, which is, is, is viable. But when Yoda says there’s another, he may not have been talking about Leah. He could’ve been talking about a soca if she came back. But I think she’s too smart for that. I think she’s not going to come back to them. She’s like dreaded jetties are trash. I got my white lightsaber with good reason. Yeah. Like you kicked me out on. Yeah. Yeah. That’s good. I want you to watch clone Wars cause there are so many, Oh well I’m in it. I’m done. I’m sitting at home doing nothing. Three hours a day, three hours a day in a knee machine. I need to do something. Um, but Hey, we’re going to cut a Jim loose. We seriously appreciate it. Congrats on the Guinness record. That’s kind of an awesome thing, man. I feel like he’s one of those, like we could just sit here and talk for hours about why I wanted to bring on was definitely have you back. But Hey, we’re going to wrap things up for episode three 29 of the it and the it and the D show. Like to thank Jim Alison for spending time with us. Definitely a welcome you back anytime you want to argue about anything. For sure.

In today's episode, John talks about iOmega ZIP drives. These amazing removable disks could hold 100MBs, meaning they could destroy even more of your data when they failed! Email us at WCPPodcastmail@gmail.com to suggest topics, or just to say hi! If you enjoy the podcast consider supporting us on Patreon. Your support will help us pay for hosting, get better recording equipment, and cover art. www.patreon.com/watercooledpotato We have a Facebook group! Come join us to talk tech: http://bit.ly/WCP-FB-Group Check out Windscribe VPN http://bit.ly/Windscribe-WCP

Windows, not so bad; Zuckerberg ret-cons Facebook origin story; Netflix misses numbers, faces competition; Amazon ditches Oracle; Zappos ridiculous breach settlement; Nest tightens rules for partners; jail time for tech execs; Samsung fingerprints problems; Fire TV cube; Iomega zip drives; stun sticks; e-rosary; Gen Z doesn't want to hear from you.Show notes at https://gog.show/386

I've got some Ransomware news for you if you own a NAS. I'll tell you how to prepare yourself for that. Also, what I picked up on Amazon Prime Day, and two very cool things for the smart home. Lastly, what I've been up to for the past two months! Links I used for this show: https://www.synology.com/en-us/company/news/article/2019JulyRansomware/Synology%C2%AE%20Urges%20All%20Users%20to%20Take%20Immediate%20Action%20to%20Protect%20Data%20from%20Ransomware%20Attack https://www.synology.com/en-us/solution/ransomware https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/attackers-are-wiping-iomega-nas-devices-leaving-ransom-notes/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ransomware/decryptor/ech0raix-ransomware-decryptor-restores-qnap-files-for-free/ https://www.ezzwave.com/z-wave-products/ https://www.amazon.com/GE-Enbrighten-SimpleWire-SmartThings-46203/dp/B07RRD92T8/ref=sr11?keywords=simplewire&qid=1565966390&s=gateway&sr=8-1 https://tynick.com/blog/08-11-2019/getting-started-with-actiontiles-for-smartthings/

This week, now there's a SECOND remote Rowhammer exploit, Chrome will remove secure indicator, Google offers free DDoS protection services, Intel is set to patch two new Meltdown/Spectre vulnerabilities, and more! Jason Wood from Paladin Security joins us for expert commentary on Non-Secure Healthcare data sharing, and more on this episode of Hack Naked News! Full Show Notes: https://wiki.securityweekly.com/HNNEpisode174 Visit http://hacknaked.tv to get all the latest episodes!

“Until designers can speak the language of business (and to some degree talk their talk), we’re just going to be the people that make things look good." An apology: I had some unknown issues with my gear during this recording so the quality suffered a bit. However, it was such a great conversation I just had to post it! Greg Storey is an Executive Director of Design at USAA, captain of industry, and an all around badass designer and leader of designers. It’s been a while since Greg and I caught up and so we covered a bunch of important design business topics in this extra long episode of Hustle. I hope you enjoy it. Also check out Greg's podcast Sprints and Milestones where he and Brett Harned share war stories, tips, tactics, and anecdotes on navigating the sometimes rough waters of getting digital projects done. On this episode, we discuss: The team that Greg leads at USAA, which focuses on investment products What it was like using Iomega zips and Jaz drives The biggest challenges that design organizations at large companies face Design has it’s seat at the table but we don’t realize that we have to push the campaign further Why designers should look to the IT industry for inspiration for communicating our value, how we impact business, and how to engage The impact of modeling your team and pace after the Bay Area “move fast” culture and failing cheap vs. failing fast Why designers needs to be good at business and be put on the hook and share responsibility for the performance of the things we make How agencies can be more involved in all of the hard design work that's needed after the initial design is delivered Why organizational empathy is just as important as user empathy Developing the skill of asking and understanding the “Why, What, and How” The book “Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win” Visit the Funsize website Subscribe to The Funsize Digest

In this Week’s Show, Justin takes a trip and is out of the studio. Andy Taylor shares info on the bumpy wild ride of Bitcoin and Alt Coins and again recommends Crypto Coin Trader on Facebook. Slick checks in and prepares to leave for Las Vegas for CES2018. With 2018 here, TechtalkRadio enters its 20th year of broadcasting. The history of the show is covered with its beginnings in Palm Springs and friendship with Mike O’Brien. We interview Brad Doslyn of Boot Magazine in this Segment from 1997 in our first couple of months broadcasting. The fun part of this trip in the time machine of TechtalkRadio gives us an idea of the hardware that was THE top of the line in 1997 with a Dream Machine Build from Boot Magazine. Mike describes Gray Market and buying from a distributor in getting parts for building computers. Altec Lansing, Creative Labs, Diamond Multimedia, Iomega, Plextor and 3DFX are names mentioned in this segment. Allie Fried of the Consumer Technology Association is in Las Vegas preparing for the CES2018. Allie shares some of the advance predictions for Vendors and Participants to CES2018. Celeb’s, the Media and deal makers will make appearances at CES. Andy Taylor shares some information on the recently announced flaw in Intel CPU’s Architecture noted as Meltdown and Scepter. What to expect over the next few weeks and how patches and updates should be applied. The Website of the Week, http://www.windows93.net

Jocke rapporterar från insidan av en arkitekts rendering av ett bostadsområde i Oslo. Sedan blir det högst blandade intryck av High sierra, en historielektion om Finger-kommandot, kulinariska upplevelser i Norge och givetvis en film med datortema i form av Antitrust - med en avslagen UPS… Vi avslutar med att gilla och bli milt förvirrade av Twitterrific för Mac. Länkar Nydalen, Oslo Peppes pizza Ringnes Hansa Jockes hotellrumsinspelningsbild? Knark High sierra - årets version av Macos Hackers Jockes tweet om processorätande process (DisplayLinkManager) Telnet Brew Ncftp Wget Curl Finger Id software John Carmack Jarlsberg Grandiosa var pizzamärket Jocke svamlade om, inget annat Live-Kodsnacket släpptes som veckans avsnitt Hobo Vetenskapsfestivalen Ett rejält stort gosedjur Antitrust Iomega zipdrive APC smart-UPS Eizo Microsoft network Googles senaste pryl-event Clips Bamsemums Twitterrific Fullständig avsnittsinformation finns här: https://www.bjoremanmelin.se/podcast/avsnitt-97-jag-hamnar-i-slash-var-slash-fu.html.

Snimljeno 11.01.2015. u studiju Visoke škole elektrotehnike i računarstva strukovnih studija uz veliku pomoć Velikog Maga zvučnih majstorija Ognjena Tomića. Uvodna muzika by Vladimir Tošić. Logotip by Aleksandra Ilić. Artwork epizode by Saša Montiljo, Arcanum, 2014. Followup: Ipak nismo prvi podcast na srpskom, pretekli su nas autori IT Serbia podcast Naš prijatelj Sloba Ljubišić @ljubisic je primetio problem u kombinaciji Chrome i Windows 8.1 da reprodukcija stane u jednom trenutku, klik na play dugme počinje snimak od početka Simplecast konvertuje audio prilikom uploada u 64Kbit/s mono NAŠI BEKAP POČECI SyQuest drajv ZIP drajv Retrospect Iz uputstva za korišćenje Retrospecta: Zemljotres u LA-u 1994. godine Prvi susret sa Retrospectom i DAT drajvom: Apple Workgroup Server 8150/80, Prikaz AWS na TidBITS-u Zašto je važan off-site bekap Web archive link: Milketov blog post o sudbini Springy arhivera Gruberova oda Disk Warrioru i SuperDuperu Kloniranje SuperDuper Carbon Copy Cloner sudo rsync, tj. komandna linija Cloud backup BackBlaze, ne radi iz Srbije, mora bi da se koristi VPN da bi radio CrashPlan FileTransporter Time Machine Steve Jobs predstavlja Time Machine Appleova stranica o TimeMachine Lokalni snepšoti VMware KB članak kako bekapovati virtuelne mašine Time Machineom Sličan članak za Parallels Apple Support – backup search results Primeri dobrih backup scenarija Chase Jarvis photovideo studio Trostepeni backup – jedna od mnogih varijanti ove priče Još smo pomenuli BitBucket Šta su Sparse image i sparse bundle image OWC DataDoubler OptiBay Airport Time Capsule na Wikipediji i na Appleovom sajtu Time Machine servis u Mac OS X Serveru

Dr Hoffmann: 01. Liss C. - Wild (The Plant Worker Remix) / LC Series 02. Gabeen & Dr Hoffmann - The Voyeur's Death / LCR 03. Loso - Unable (Ricardo Garduno Remix) / Reloading Records 04. Ferenc - Discrete (Gabeen Remix) / Zero Point Five Records 05. Amir Razanica - Spinning (Vegim remix) / Shout Records 06. Spark Taberner - Push It Out (Original Mix) / Drowne Records 07. Marrel - PX100 (Black Smoke Remix) / Crunch Control 08. Frank Savio - Escalation (Original Mix) / Driving Forces Recordings 09. Michael Schwarz - Don't Look back / Hard Drive Records Alena Geralda & Tanika Bond: 01. Plankton & MADA - Antiz (original mix) 02. Mikael Pfeiffer - Duck Digital (Michael Schwarz Remix) 03. Plankton & Mada - Pythagore (original mix) 04. AnGy KoRe & Gymmy J ft. Gracie - Insomnia (Original Mix) 05. Michael Schwarz - Neuronorm (Plankton remix) 06. Chris Finke - Sleep When You're Dead (Original mix) 07. M.A.D.A. & Plankton - Series Of Dream 08. Mr Jones – Three Dozen (A-Brothers Black Carpet Remix) 09. M.A.D.A & Plankton - Ill Brutto (original mix) 10. Q Le – Clover (Hackler & Kuch Remix) 11. Plankton and M.A.D.A. - Iomega (original mix) 12. Sandra Lester - The Warring Harridan Interpretations (Lost Consciousness By Allan Blomquist) 13. Plankton - Krapinoo (original mix) 14. Bryan Black presents Black Asteroid - Engine 1 (Dave Clarke & Mr. Jones Unsubscribe Remix) 15. Woo York & Vegim - Bass Machinnen (original mix) This show is syndicated & distributed exclusively by Syndicast. If you are a radio station interested in airing the show or would like to distribute your podcast / radio show please register here: https://syndicast.co.uk/distribution/registration

Blind Spot Radio Show 230 | Alena Geralda and Tanika Bond & Dr HoffmannnnDr Hoffmann: 01. Liss C. - Wild (The Plant Worker Remix) / LC Series 02. Gabeen & Dr Hoffmann - The Voyeur's Death / LCR 03. Loso - Unable (Ricardo Garduno Remix) / Reloading Records 04. Ferenc - Discrete (Gabeen Remix) / Zero Point Five Records 05. Amir Razanica - Spinning (Vegim remix) / Shout Records 06. Spark Taberner - Push It Out (Original Mix) / Drowne Records 07. Marrel - PX100 (Black Smoke Remix) / Crunch Control 08. Frank Savio - Escalation (Original Mix) / Driving Forces Recordings 09. Michael Schwarz - Don't Look back / Hard Drive Records Alena Geralda & Tanika Bond: 01. Plankton & MADA - Antiz (original mix) 02. Mikael Pfeiffer - Duck Digital (Michael Schwarz Remix) 03. Plankton & Mada - Pythagore (original mix) 04. AnGy KoRe & Gymmy J ft. Gracie - Insomnia (Original Mix) 05. Michael Schwarz - Neuronorm (Plankton remix) 06. Chris Finke - Sleep When You're Dead (Original mix) 07. M.A.D.A. & Plankton - Series Of Dream 08. Mr Jones – Three Dozen (A-Brothers Black Carpet Remix) 09. M.A.D.A & Plankton - Ill Brutto (original mix) 10. Q Le – Clover (Hackler & Kuch Remix) 11. Plankton and M.A.D.A. - Iomega (original mix) 12. Sandra Lester - The Warring Harridan Interpretations (Lost Consciousness By Allan Blomquist) 13. Plankton - Krapinoo (original mix) 14. Bryan Black presents Black Asteroid - Engine 1 (Dave Clarke & Mr. Jones Unsubscribe Remix) 15. Woo York & Vegim - Bass Machinnen (original mix)

In vChat #18, Simon, Eric, and David discuss Simon using Twitter at Mt Everest basecamp, the new Iomega PX4, HP Discover, HP TouchPad, Uber EMC VNX VSA, the Denver VMUG, the VMware Cloud Infrastructure Launch Event (July 12), VMware vExpert program, VMworld 2011, and new TrainSignal VCA-DT and Security products. vChat is a regular virtualization […]

In vChat #18, Simon, Eric, and David discuss Simon using Twitter at Mt Everest basecamp, the new Iomega PX4, HP Discover, HP TouchPad, Uber EMC VNX VSA, the Denver VMUG, the VMware Cloud Infrastructure Launch Event (July 12), VMware vExpert program, VMworld 2011, and new TrainSignal VCA-DT and Security products. vChat is a regular virtualization […]

Speed up your digital life with the super fast USB 3.0 Iomega eGo hard drive. Hosts: Dick DeBartolo and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/dgw. We invite you to read, add to, and amend the show notes. For more details and a chance to win the Mad Magazine "What The Heck Is It?" contest, visit GizWiz.Biz.

Speed up your digital life with the super fast USB 3.0 Iomega eGo hard drive. Hosts: Dick DeBartolo and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/dgw. We invite you to read, add to, and amend the show notes. For more details and a chance to win the Mad Magazine "What The Heck Is It?" contest, visit GizWiz.Biz.

Speed up your digital life with the super fast USB 3.0 Iomega eGo hard drive. Hosts: Dick DeBartolo and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/dgw. We invite you to read, add to, and amend the show notes. For more details and a chance to win the Mad Magazine "What The Heck Is It?" contest, visit GizWiz.Biz.

Online purchasing (SSL, virtual credit card numbers), Profiles in IT (Adam Osborne, founder of Osborne Computers), Computer Electronics Show (3D TV, in-car computing, ultrathin flatpanels, Palm Pre, wrist phone, Sony netbook, wireless charging), Windows worm infects 3.5 million PCs, 256GB SSD laptops (Dell, Apple), IBM files over 4000 patents in 2008 (innovation will drive the economy), Seagate offers fix for defective Barracuda hard drives, home network attached storage (Netgear, D-Link, Iomega, RAID redunancy), and Obama seeks to delay DTV transition. This show originally aired on Saturday, January 17, 2009, at 9:00 AM EST on WFED (1500 AM).

Online purchasing (SSL, virtual credit card numbers), Profiles in IT (Adam Osborne, founder of Osborne Computers), Computer Electronics Show (3D TV, in-car computing, ultrathin flatpanels, Palm Pre, wrist phone, Sony netbook, wireless charging), Windows worm infects 3.5 million PCs, 256GB SSD laptops (Dell, Apple), IBM files over 4000 patents in 2008 (innovation will drive the economy), Seagate offers fix for defective Barracuda hard drives, home network attached storage (Netgear, D-Link, Iomega, RAID redunancy), and Obama seeks to delay DTV transition. This show originally aired on Saturday, January 17, 2009, at 9:00 AM EST on WFED (1500 AM).

There has been significant interest lately from the business community in the value of design research and design thinking. This is particularly true when it comes to the very early front-end of the design process. Generative Tools help create a shared design language that designers, researchers and other stakeholders can use to visually communicate with each other. The design language is Generative in the sense that with it, people can express an infinite number of ideas (e.g., dreams, fears, insights, opportunities) through a limited set of stimulus items. In this session, you will: * Obtain a map of the design research landscape as it has emerged over the last 20 years. * Discover the newest developments in the research industry, with an emphasis on generative design research, characterized by design-led research from a participatory mindset. * Discover the many ways in which Generative Tools can be used to inform and improve the design process. About Liz Sanders Liz is the President of MakeTools, a design research company that focuses on collective creativity. Liz is a pioneer in the use of participatory research methods in design, and her numerous design awards, patents, publications, presentations, along with her proven track record in the marketplace have established her as a global leader in the field of design research. She sees the emergence of a human-centered design revolution growing out of the current state of technology-driven innovation, and she frequently speaks about and teaches human-centered research and design to clients, colleagues and students around the world. Liz was educated as a social scientist with undergraduate degrees in psychology and anthropology, followed by a PhD in Experimental and Quantitative Psychology. Previous client relationships include 3M, AT&T, Apple, Baxter, Becton Dickinson, Coca Cola, Compaq, IBM, Intel, Iomega, Johnson Controls, Kodak, Microsoft, Motorola, Philips, Procter & Gamble, Siemens Medical Systems, Steelcase, Texas Instruments, Thermos, Thomson Consumer Electronics, Toro and Xerox. For an overview of Liz’s ideas about design, research methodology and more, visit MakeTools.