Podcasts about ABM

In this episode of the Scaling Japan Podcast, we welcome Bela Schweiger, President and CEO of Enter Japan K.K. Bela brings over 20 years of leadership experience at global firms including The Coca-Cola Company, Nokia, Häagen-Dazs, and L'Oréal.Bela shares essential insights on how retail distribution works in Japan, including the roles of trading houses, drugstores, convenience stores, and corporate buyers. He also provides practical strategies for handling Japanese distributor inquiries and how to pitch your brand effectively in a market known for its high standards and relationship-driven business culture.If you're aiming to launch or expand your consumer product in Japan, this episode is a must-listen for learning how to enter and grow in Japan's highly structured retail landscape.---AIM B2B – Integrated Marketing & PR in AsiaThis episode is sponsored by Custom Media, Tokyo's leading integrated marketing and PR agency since 2008, helping global brands expand across Japan and APAC.They can help you with:Localized storytelling to build trust in Asian marketsStrategic performance marketing for measurable growthAccount‑based marketing (ABM), paid media, GEO, and SEOHubSpot‑certified CRM & marketing automationData‑driven implementation with cultural expertiseLearn more about AIM B2BShow Notes:0:00 – Introduction1:11 – Overview of Retail Distribution in Japan8:03 – Major Beverage Brands of Japan15:35 – Role of Trading Houses (Sogo Shosha)26:01 – How to Handle Inquiries and Leads from Japanese Distributors33:57 – Comparing Corporate vs. Small Retail Partners37:18 – Growth of Drug Stores and Convenience Stores as Retail Channels40:21 – How to Localize Marketing for Japanese Consumers44:01 – Tips on How to Pitch Your Brand in Japan49:14 – Key Takeaways from Bela SchweigerLinks from Guest Appearance:

Continuing our Account Based Prospecting expert series, in this episode, Samis joined by Mason Cosby, founder and CEO of Scrappy ABM, to discuss the intricacies of account-based marketing (ABM) and its application in recruitment.Throughout the conversation, they cover a lot of ground:From exploriing the importance of niching down, to identifying the right audience, and some of the challenges organizations face when implementing ABM strategies. Mason shares tactical steps for building an effective ABM program, emphasizing his 4D approach. We're not being cheeky when we say these are assets and advice you'd typically have to pay someone to give you — so listen, take notes, and be well on your way to improving your marketing and prospecting efforts...just. like. that. Chapters:00:00 - Why ABM is the ultimate growth tool for modern recruiters06:12 - Beyond spray and pray: Evaluating your recruitment lead generation09:05 - Is your recruiting agency ready for account-based marketing?16:10 - How to build your ABM strategy for client acquisition35;01 - How to find and leverage data to build your ideal client profile41:50 - From data to deal: Activating your ABM client prospecting54:05 - Beyond placements: Calculating the ROI of your ABM strategyExplore all our episodes and catch the full video experience at loxo.co/podcastBecoming a Hiring Machine is brought to you by Loxo. To discover more about us, just visit loxo.co

In this episode, we're joined by Sander van Gelderen, CMO at Effectory, an employee listening solution platform helping organizations measure and improve engagement, enablement, and productivity at scale, serving 700+ recurring customers across the Benelux, DACH, and now the Nordics. We spoke with Sander about how Effectory transformed from a project-based consultancy into a recurring revenue SaaS business and how his team is reshaping their go-to-market motion through Account-Based Experience (ABX). The goal? Closing the gap between marketing and sales, reducing waste, and targeting only the accounts truly in-market. Here are some of the key questions we address: What is ABX and how does it differ from ABM in practice? How do you unify marketing and sales targeting to remove friction? What were the warning signs that the traditional MQL model wasn't working? How do you implement ABX without losing velocity or your team's trust? What process and tech changes are required to make ABX work? How should marketing compensation evolve in an ABX world? What are the real trade-offs and pitfalls no one talks about?

The revelation that shattered systems thinking: Replacing every combustion car with electric vehicles improves urban efficiency by only 6%—revealing why isolated optimizations fail in complex ecosystems.Dr. Parfait Atchadé from MIT Media Lab discovered this through quantum-enhanced urban modeling in Boston's Kendall Square. His breakthrough: humanized AI agents with emotional architectures that "live" in virtual cities for decades of compressed time, then vote on configurations—exposing the systematic failure of single-variable optimization. Paradigm Shifts:→ The Single-Solution Trap: Complex systems require the vast majority of improvements from interconnected changes—individual optimizations create illusion of progress while missing systemic impact→ Quantum Superposition Planning: Test multiple city configurations simultaneously rather than sequential scenarios—compress 40 years of urban experience into months of simulation→ Agents with Feelings: AI agents embedded with emotional models (joy, fear, anger, sadness) provide qualitative experience data impossible to capture from human stakeholders→ Portfolio Voting Revolution: Beyond binary decisions—split voting percentages across options like investment portfolios, enabling nuanced collective optimization→ Traditional systems modeling: Sequential scenario testing vs. Quantum approach: Parallel reality simulation with dramatic efficiency gainsThe Innovation: Humanized Agent-Based Modeling (h-ABM) creates digital beings with memory, perception, and emotional responses that navigate virtual systems, accumulating experiences and providing stakeholder insights traditional analytics cannot capture.Strategic Application: Any complex ecosystem requiring multi-stakeholder optimization—from organizational transformation to supply chain design—can leverage quantum-enhanced modeling with emotionally-intelligent agents.Strategic Reframe: The most adaptive ecosystems will shift from asking "How do we optimize individual components?" to understanding: "How do we architect systems where quantum-enhanced agents can help us reveal the hidden interdependencies that single-solution approaches systematically miss?"#EcosystemicFutures #QuantumComputing #SystemsThinking #UrbanPlanning #MIT #ComplexSystems #AgentBasedModelingGuest: Dr. Parfait Atchadé, Research Affiliate, MIT Media Lab | Strategic Business Officer, Lighthouse DIGHost: Marco Annunziata, Co-founder, Annunziata & Desai AdvisorsSeries Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin WorksEcosystemic Futures is provided by NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project in collaboration with Shoshin Works.

Sick of trade shows that cost a fortune but never drive real pipeline? If your events strategy feels more like a brand awareness play than a revenue engine, this episode will help you flip the script. In this episode of Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast titled “B2B Events That Close Deals: Strategies for Relationship-First Growth,” host Kerry Curran sits down with Meghan Lavin, VP of Marketing at Choreograph. With 15 years of experience leading events, content, and field strategy, Meghan shares how B2B marketers can drive measurable impact through smart, strategic event planning. She pulls back the curtain on what really works—beyond the booth: How to set goals and budgets that align with sales cycles and AOV What to ask for when negotiating sponsorships (and what not to sign) Creative ways to build hosted events that convert, even with limited budget How to train event staff so your booth doesn't fumble the first impression The power of post-event follow-up and content to keep relationships warm

#271 GTM Engineering | In this episode, Dave is joined by John Short, CEO of Compound Growth Marketing, along with Cammy Keiler, Justin Johnson, and Dan Guenet. Together, they break down the rise of GTM engineering, what it is, how it differs from RevOps, and why B2B teams are investing in it.Dave and the crew cover:The core difference between RevOps and GTM engineering (and why the latter is more focused on building than just integrating)Real GTM engineering use cases, from AI-powered sales tools to mid-funnel campaigns that go way beyond ebooksHow GTM engineers are driving higher revenue per employee and why this role should be one of your first five marketing hiresWhether you're hiring or just GTM-curious, you'll leave this episode with a clear definition of the role, real-world examples, and tactical ways GTM engineers drive impact.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:33) - – Why this topic resonated with 1,200+ registrants (05:48) - – What even is **GTM engineering? (08:03) - – GTM engineering vs. RevOps vs. Marketing Ops (11:18) - – How AI is driving this role forward (14:28) - – Real examples: ABM campaigns, mid-funnel tools, sales call analysis (19:38) - – Tools GTM engineers are using today (Clay, Unify, GPTs) (23:03) - – Role of GTM engineering in revenue per employee (27:18) - – How GTM engineers enable sales + reduce headcount (31:33) - – What Dan actually does all day as a GTM engineer (36:23) - – Custom GPTs for sales and marketing teams (39:38) - – What MCP servers are (and why they matter) (44:08) - – Claude, Gamma, and AI-powered content systems (46:53) - – Why this isn't just PLG (or ABM, or RevOps) (50:43) - – When to hire a GTM engineer (53:23) - – Big feelings about the role (and why they exist) (55:33) - – Closing thoughts + what to take away Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Walnut.Why are we pouring all this effort into marketing just to push buyers to a “request a demo” or “contact sales” button?Come on, today's buyers don't want to talk to sales right away. They want to explore your product themselves, see how it works, and understand its value before booking a meeting.That's where Walnut comes in.Walnut empowers marketers and GTM teams to create interactive, self-guided product experiences in minutes. Embed these experiences on your site, in emails, or anywhere in your funnel to let buyers engage on their terms, from awareness to close and beyond. That's the beauty of Walnut - you're getting a platform that your sales and CS colleagues can use to showcase the product too.And the best part? You get real intent data—see which features prospects love, where they drop off, and what's actually driving pipeline. Demo Qualified Leads are the new MQL.Over 500 companies, like Adobe and NetApp, use Walnut to drive 2-3x higher website conversion rates and 7 figures in pipeline on a yearly basis. So do you want to drive more leads, shorten sales cycles, and actually show your product instead of hiding it behind another typical B2B CTA? Go check out Walnut.io. And if you tell them Dave from Exit 5 sent you, they'll build out your first demo for free!

Scrappy ABM brings practical playbooks that don't break the bank, and in this episode, host Mason Cosby sits down with Wendy White, the CMO of Daxko. Known for being wildly talented and dramatically underappreciated in the world of CMOs, Wendy shares how she integrates AI across ABM and go-to-market strategies.From AI-powered outbound to long-tail SEO orchestration, Wendy reveals what's working, what's not, and how Daxko uses AI as a partner rather than a replacement. She details practical workflows that blend automation with human oversight to protect brand voice, improve lead quality, and empower teams. With real examples—from using Clay for enriched targeting to deploying AI Piper for off-hours lead qualification—this conversation challenges marketing leaders to rethink how they scale.

Trade shows and events are back!But most still miss the point. If you're not walking away with real relationships and revenue potential, you're doing it wrong.Hey there, I'm Kerry Curran—B2B Revenue Growth Executive Advisor, Industry Analyst, and host of Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast.In this episode, Pipeline in Person: How Relationship-First Events Drive Real ROI, we're diving into how the smartest B2B brands are getting off the expo floor and into curated conversations that actually convert.I'm joined by Jon Whitfield, Chief Operating Officer at MediaPost, who has spent over 20 years perfecting the art of high-impact, face-to-face marketing. Jon isn't just running another event company—he's building a reputation for delivering summit experiences that sponsors rebook year after year because they drive pipeline, not just visibility.And here's the surprising truth: smaller, niche gatherings with the right ratio of buyers to sponsors consistently outperform massive trade shows—if you get the format right. Jon breaks down why most conferences fail to deliver ROI—and how to fix it.We cover:The one customer value metric sponsors should use to justify their spend How curated experiences like golf, axe throwing, and roundtables deepen buyer trust What brand-side marketers actually want from events in a post-remote world And how to build stronger sponsor-attendee matchmaking and content alignment Picture this: instead of awkward badge scans, you're having real conversations over dinner, sharing challenges in closed-door roundtables, and walking away with warm leads who already know, like, and trust you.Stay to the end, where Jon shares his one non-negotiable rule for evaluating event ROI—and how to spot a conference worth investing in before you spend a dollar.If you're investing in events this year, this episode is your edge.Hit follow, drop a rating, and share it with your field marketing or partnerships lead—because pipeline starts before the pitch.Let's go!Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:02.296):So welcome, Jon. Please introduce yourself and share your background and expertise.Jon Whitfield (00:07.832):Well, hello, Kerry. Thanks for having me on. My name is Jon Whitfield. I'm the Chief Operating Officer over at MediaPost. I've been there for a long time—I didn't realize you could be at a place for as long as 22 years. Apparently, there are other places you can work. I didn't know that. No one ever told me. I just learned that you can get other jobs at other places.Yeah, I've been at MediaPost for 22 years. I've seen a lot of things change over the years, and yeah, we're thrilled just to still be kicking and doing our thing.Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:46.176):Excellent. Well, I know you've become the expert at events, and in my own experience with MediaPost, you've curated a really valuable experience for both brands, attendees, and sponsors. I want to dive into your expertise and help marketers and sponsors get more out of their conferences—and really think about what that investment looks like.We're seeing more and more value put into face-to-face relationship-building and brand-building. Conferences offer that, right? Talk about how you've seen the industry evolve and what you're seeing today.Jon Whitfield (01:38.716):Yeah, I mean, it's funny. When I first started out in this business, you had real tentpole events—like the ad:techs and the SESs of the world—that had 300 exhibitors and thousands of attendees. These were real, large gatherings that happened several times a year. If you weren't at those—whether as an exhibitor or an attendee—you kind of didn't exist. It was like, “We've got to be there.”So in the early 2000s and through the first decade of the new millennium, those large shows were really commonplace and important.We participated not only as exhibitors but also by launching our own conference series called OMMA Global, which had a couple of thousand people, 150 exhibitors, and was a two-day, multi-track content event. It was a big lift. It wasn't easy to put together or manage.But after five or six years of doing that, we realized it was really difficult to go back to our sponsor pool and guarantee them the ROI they were looking for. Because with large events, you're not really in control of the experience. You're kind of leaving it to chance: maybe someone good stops by a booth, maybe there's a follow-up, maybe someone connects at the cocktail party, maybe someone attends the sponsored presentation.Sometimes you get four people in the room, sometimes 50—you're just not in control. Over time, we learned that the more control you have over the experience—and the more you're involved in it—the more satisfied everyone will be: sponsors, attendees, everyone.Kerry Curran, RBMA (03:28.800):Right.Jon Whitfield (04:15.984):Exactly. And so, we just evolved. You've still got the big tentpole events like CES that serve a purpose. But I don't know many people in advertising or marketing who come back from CES saying, “I got a ton of business from that.”You want to be seen there, like at Cannes. These large shows are viable, but as a business, we found we couldn't deliver on the experience we promised. That's why we transitioned to smaller settings, like our Summit Series.Kerry Curran, RBMA (05:15.244):Yeah, and I've been to a number of your events as well as the big shows. I agree—both as a sponsor and as an attendee—with the smaller, more niche, intimate events, relationship-building becomes much more organic. You're on the bus to dinner, at happy hour, or even horseback riding. There's so much more opportunity to build meaningful relationships.Jon Whitfield (05:46.884):Yeah, in a smaller setting, you really get to know people. It's almost like dating. They're testing you out, seeing how you are in different environments, and you're a direct reflection of the business you're there to represent.When the event ends, they have a pretty good sense of, “Do I want to work with this person?” Or maybe, “That didn't really work out.” You don't get that level of intimacy when you're just scanning badges at a big conference. You're not getting that.So we value time spent in different environments—not just in a conference room, but also on the bus, during a golf round, throwing axes, horseback riding, whatever it is. You really see people's true selves in those environments, and that translates into better business relationships. At least, that's what we think.Kerry Curran, RBMA (07:04.492):Yeah, no—and again, I've loved it. I often describe your events as almost like destination weddings. By the end of three days, you're best friends with everyone. You've cultivated a really unique culture within your events, where the sponsors all get to know each other, and everyone's been so willing to have conversations and learn from each other.Jon Whitfield (07:43.888):Absolutely. It's something we've tinkered with for years. It's never perfect. Things happen—weather, logistics—that can muddy things up. But if you have the basic formula down and you've tried it enough times, you can predict, “This is going to be a good one.”We've been doing our Email Summit for 19 years, twice a year. We've been doing our Performance Marketing Summit (formerly Search & Performance) for 19 years. These are tried-and-true programs.And I always ask our sponsors: What's a customer worth to you? What do we need to do to deliver not just one, but two, three, four customers? We want to knock it out of the park. If a customer is worth more than their investment, that's great—I can deliver that. But if the customer value is low and the investment is high, that's a math problem.So we work backward from that. How do we get each supporter to a place of success? That's how we approach it.Jon Whitfield (09:11.312):That's great—because I can deliver that. But if they're investing a ton and their customer value is very low, then there's a math problem, right? So it's about figuring out how we get those individuals who support our events to a place of success. That's how we approach it. We start kind of backward and move forward—and then do our best to deliver on the promise.Kerry Curran, RBMA (09:35.087):Yeah, no, that makes so much sense. And it's smart to think of it that way. Everyone needs ROI on their investments. So when you're talking to sponsors—say a new ad tech, martech, or agency reaches out and wants to sponsor—what are they usually looking for in a conference experience?Jon Whitfield (09:58.756):Well, it kind of depends on what the product is. Some of our sponsors have a more technical platform or need more time to explain their value—they might need a visual or demo. So they might want to sponsor a presentation where they get 10 minutes to show and educate everyone on who they are, what they do, and why they matter in the overall ecosystem.Others don't need that much time. They're like, “Here's what we do, here are a few of our customers, and we'd like to sponsor the brewery tour,” or “Let's take everyone on a cool boat ride.” It's more about creating a memorable experience and attaching your name to something we've built—where all boats rise. You mentioned competitors—at our events, sponsors often become frenemies. They all understand they're there for the same reason. So we keep it positive. Let's all try to win. There's no reason to make it awkward.So yeah, it really depends on what the sponsor is trying to achieve. We just recommend what we know works, based on years and years of doing these.Kerry Curran, RBMA (11:28.674):Yeah, and I like what you pointed out about branding and associating your brand with the audience. Especially in B2B, that's such a challenge. So many brands I talk to are focused on lower funnel—"I just need the sales"—but they forget their audience has to have heard of them and liked them first. The conference environment is a really effective and efficient way to do that.Jon Whitfield (11:59.534):Exactly. You also asked me earlier about how things have evolved over time—and, of course, we had this little thing called COVID in between. We were doing fine leading into it, but coming out of COVID was rough. We couldn't do in-person events, so we pivoted to virtual—Zoom events, video panels. They were fine for keeping the community connected, but nothing compares to in-person relationship-building.In 2021, 2022, and 2023, I'd start each show by asking the audience, “Raise your hand if this is your first summit.” A lot of hands would go up. Then I'd ask, “Are you still primarily working remotely?” And again—almost everyone raised their hands.And if I asked today, I'd still get a majority. So when we talk about the viability of events—how are you going to meet people if no one's in an office anymore? Are you going to go to their house? Meet at a local Starbucks? At some point, it lands back on events. And yeah, we've been fortunate to benefit from that shift.Kerry Curran, RBMA (13:15.752):Yeah.Jon Whitfield (13:25.592):I still think there's this broad shift away from full-time, in-office work. And that really emphasizes the value of in-person gatherings—big or small.Kerry Curran, RBMA (13:41.239):I completely agree. And vendors can't do lunch-and-learns like they used to, either—not if the agency or brand team is fully remote or just more dispersed. So conferences become a valuable way to introduce your brand, tease interest, and build toward a deeper sales conversation or demo.Now, we've talked about sponsors. But the other critical audience is the attendees. Your target audience is brand-side marketers across different industries and verticals. From their perspective, what are they looking for in a conference? What do they find at MediaPost?Jon Whitfield (14:41.604):When brands come together at our events, they're looking for like-minded individuals going through similar challenges. You might have someone who runs email for American Airlines sitting next to someone managing email for a restaurant chain—and they're facing the same problems.It might be deliverability. It might be creative. It might be open rates. That's just one example, but a lot of marketers want a platform where they can share ideas, collaborate, trade war stories, and ask questions—even what they think might be dumb questions—in a safe environment where they'll get real help and honest answers.So when they get back to the office on Monday, they're equipped with real insights and action items. That's the big thing.The sponsors—the vendors and platforms—provide the tools. They're the ones building solutions to help marketers do their jobs better.I always say this at our conferences: MediaPost doesn't really provide a takeaway in the traditional sense—no binders, no decks. The takeaway is the connection. It's the chance to meet tech solution providers who are working hard to make marketers' lives easier and more effective.We create the space for those connections to happen—in an intimate way, where people can really spend time together, share ideas, riff off each other, and see where it goes.I think that's what our buyers—the marketers—really want. And here's the thing: they get calls all the time from our sponsors before the event and they never answer the phone. They're busy people. But then they come to the event and say, “Oh my god, you've been calling me for months. I never picked up. But I watched your presentation—it was amazing. Let's set up a test next week.”We hear that story over and over again. It's not that marketers don't want to learn about these technologies—it's that their day-to-day is packed. So events give them the breathing room to explore.Kerry Curran, RBMA (17:08.846):Yeah, definitely. And to your point, it's so important for marketers to stay on top of the latest technology, platforms, publishers. You give them an environment to learn from peers and providers. You also do a great job balancing content and networking. Talk a bit about your approach to content and the roundtables.Jon Whitfield (17:56.014):Yeah. All of our content is built for the marketer—the buyer, the brand-side attendee. Our panels, our keynotes, anything that's not sponsored is programmed with that in mind.We want to highlight best practices and challenges from the main stage so that people can identify with what's being shared. That content sets the stage for deeper conversations later—whether it's during an activity, a reception, or dinner. It plants seeds that grow over three days.These aren't one-day fly-in events. You're invested. You're present. You're there to grow. From a content perspective, we always ask the marketer or agency side: What are your struggles? What are your wins? What lessons can you share?Kerry Curran, RBMA (18:53.730):Yeah.Jon Whitfield (19:23.664):And then, when it's a sponsor's turn—okay, you've got 10 minutes—riff on what you heard. Build on it if you want. But mostly, tell us who you are, what you do, what value you offer. We want a pitch. Show us the dashboard. Show us who your customers are. Be clear.That's how we do it. We don't cross-pollinate the content. You've spoken at our events—you know we keep it church and state. We program the editorial content. And we expect sponsors to bring equally valuable content that's insightful and impactful.That's how we create a full, engaging morning of sessions.Kerry Curran, RBMA (20:28.556):Absolutely. And you do a great job curating senior-level speakers and timely themes that reflect what marketers in those verticals are really facing.I've always found that valuable. And one of my favorite parts? Your roundtables. Like you always say—mics off, real talk. That's when people ask the questions they're afraid to ask on stage. And it's just as valuable for the sponsors—they get to hear firsthand what their audience is struggling with and start a meaningful conversation right then and there.Jon Whitfield (21:51.652):Yep.Kerry Curran, RBMA (21:56.417):It's all about building real, mutually beneficial relationships—and you've created a space that does that so well.Jon Whitfield (22:05.208):Thanks. And yeah—we've had feedback that if we could run an entire summit with just roundtables, people would love it. They're so impactful. You turn off the cameras, and people get honest.Unfortunately, there are only so many hours in the day, but those roundtables consistently get top marks in our post-show surveys.Kerry Curran, RBMA (22:41.484):I believe it.Kerry Curran, RBMA (22:41.484):I definitely agree. Jon, this has been incredibly helpful. I think it's important for everyone listening to be reminded just how valuable event investments can be—from education to relationship-building to, ultimately, driving sales.So for those tuning in who want to ramp up their event strategy—or need to build a business case for budget from their CFO—what's your recommendation for getting started?Jon Whitfield (23:18.244):Start by comparing the costs. What's your total investment going to be to sponsor an event? It's not inexpensive. There's travel, hotels, time. If you're a vendor or sponsor, it's not the cheapest thing in the world.So go back to that question: What's a customer worth to you?How are you currently getting customers? Are you converting through digital-only channels? Maybe you're just selling widgets and don't need in-person interaction. Fine. But if you're in a consultative or technical sale where FaceTime matters, then events are going to pay dividends.If you're trying to decide which events to support, here's what I tell people: Look at whether the sponsors from two or three years ago are still coming back. If they're not, run for the hills. That's a red flag. It means the experience didn't deliver.Look at our Email Insider Summit. We've been running it for 19 years. And for at least the past 10, you'll see many of the same companies sponsoring over and over. That doesn't happen by accident. It takes hard work. You have to care deeply about the experience and the investment people are making—your sponsors, your ticket buyers.That's something we believe in strongly. Maybe that's why we're still around. But yeah—do your homework. Know what a customer is worth to you. Run the numbers. You have to get ROI from these things. That's just the bottom line.Kerry Curran, RBMA (25:36.471):I totally agree. And one thing to level-set with your CFO is: you're probably not going to see ROI immediately. Depending on what you're selling, it might be three to six months down the road.If you come home without a signed contract, it doesn't mean it wasn't a success—it just means you're playing a longer game.And I know you also do a great job customizing sponsor opportunities at your events.Jon Whitfield (26:18.788):Yeah, it's all about knowing who you are as a company. What do you want to be known for? Is it education? Is it fun? Is it gifts?Every brand has its own playbook. That's why we offer a variety of sponsorship options—because everyone has a different goal when they come to an event.Kerry Curran, RBMA (26:59.630):Exactly. There's so much flexibility. One-on-one meetings. Content partnerships. Webinars. Lots of ways to extend the experience beyond the event.And one more thing we didn't touch on—brand attendees. You have some great senior-level VIP opportunities, right?Jon Whitfield (27:21.668):Absolutely. For this model to work, we need a strong brand-side presence—decision-makers, people with media and marketing budgets, people who want to network and learn.That's the lifeblood of our business. And we're always looking to bring in new marketers doing interesting things.That's part of what keeps this exciting. Even something as “old” as email is constantly evolving. There are always new tools and trends—whether it's AI, chatGPT, TikTok, or whatever else is coming.So yeah, we need marketers who want to tell their stories, who want to improve, and who want to meet others doing the same.Kerry Curran, RBMA (29:21.070):And that's how you pitch it to your boss. “Yes, I'm going to Amelia Island—but look who else will be there. Look at the brands and tech providers I'll be learning from.” You come back with insights and a full notebook, and your higher-ups will be glad you went.Jon Whitfield (29:47.044):Exactly. And yes—senior marketers can qualify for our VIP passes. We have a set number of those for each event. Once they're gone, they're gone.We also cap the total audience to keep the buyer-to-seller ratio balanced—usually around 1:1. It's typically 90–100 people: half brand-side, half sponsors. That way, everyone gets time to connect. And if by day three you haven't met who you need to meet—you stayed in your room too long!Kerry Curran, RBMA (30:48.834):Well, I can say I'm still close with many of the marketers and vendors I've met at your events. I always recommend your summits because they're high-value, well-structured, and genuinely productive.So, Jon—if someone wants to get in touch to learn more, how can they find you?Jon Whitfield (31:29.036):Well, not that I need more email—but you can reach me at Jon@MediaPost.com. If you're interested in sponsorships, my right-hand man Seth Oilman is your guy—Seth@MediaPost.com. He's our CRO and runs the sponsorship side.Reach out, and I'll point you in the right direction.Kerry Curran, RBMA (31:54.624):Excellent. We'll include all of that in the show notes—and make sure everyone mentions they heard you here!Jon Whitfield (32:02.552):Thanks again, Kerry. You've been such a great supporter and advocate for years. We appreciate all you've done—and don't stop!Kerry Curran, RBMA (32:17.550):Thanks, Jon. I believe in what you're doing and love being part of it. Can't wait to see you again soon!Jon Whitfield (32:30.884):You got it. Can't wait.Thanks again to Jon Whitfield for pulling back the curtain on what makes events actually drive results. Here's what we're walking away with: big expos can generate visibility, but intimate events create trust and conversions. ROI starts with one question—what's a customer worth to you? Events should be evaluated not just on cost, but on continuity, brand fit, and customer alignment.If this sparked ideas for your event or sponsor strategy, share it with your team—and let us know what resonated. Don't forget to subscribe, review, and follow Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast. To learn more, visit revenuebasedmarketing.com and follow me, Kerry Curran, on LinkedIn. Flat or slowing revenue? 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What's up folks, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Alison Albeck Lindland, CMO at Movable Ink.(00:00) - Intro (01:14) - In This Episode (03:10) - 1. Movable Ink's Platform Evolution (04:19) - 2. Alison's 3 Stage Journey at Movable Ink (05:08) - 3. Using Customer Relationships to Future Proof a Marketing Career (09:50) - 4. Building AI Literacy in Marketing Teams (16:17) - 5. How to Spot AI Literacy in Marketing Hires (21:35) - 6. Fostering AI Experimentation Across Your Team (25:43) - 7. AI Point Solutions vs Platforms (30:37) - 8. Align CMOs and Boards on Long Term Marketing Goals (33:37) - 9. How to Measure and Maximize the ROI of Video Podcasts (40:23) - 10. Building a Customer Strategy Team That Drives Enterprise Growth (49:36) - 11. How To Build Lasting Influence With B2B Buyers (55:49) - 12. Creating Energy and Balance as a CMO Summary: Alison believes marketing careers thrive when you stay close to the people who buy from you, and at Movable Ink she has built that into the culture with a customer strategy team, advisory boards, and events that create real connections customers carry into new roles. She applies the same thinking to AI, starting with shared tools and boundaries, then layering in structured experimentation and custom apps that live inside daily workflows. Alison hires people who tinker on their own time, keeps experimentation alive with weekly check‑ins and show‑and‑shares, and cuts projects that do not deliver, like ending a podcast to focus on high‑impact testimonial and “hero” videos. Through it all, she builds influence by aligning teams on one scorecard, sharing loyalty stories that prove long‑term value, and helping buyers see her platform as part of their personal playbook for success.About AlisonAlison is the Chief Marketing Officer at Movable Ink, leading global marketing, brand, strategy, and communications for the AI-powered personalization platform used by the world's top brands. In her 12+ years at Movable Ink, she's had three distinct phases: rising through customer success, founding the company's now-influential strategy team, and stepping into the CMO role nearly three years ago. That journey (across constant evolution and new challenges) has kept the work “never the same company for more than six months at a time,” and helped shape Movable Ink's role as a leader in enterprise personalization.Customer Relationships Can Future Proof a Marketing CareerAlison argues that the best way to future proof a marketing career is by knowing your customers as actual people rather than abstract data points. Marketers who thrive over time make it their job to understand what customers want, how they think, and why they buy. "You have to know them personally and pretty intimately," she says. "You've got to be constantly advocating for their perspective around the table." That kind of understanding does not happen in a spreadsheet. It happens in conversations, often unplanned ones, that give you unfiltered context about their challenges and priorities.She has turned this belief into a repeatable practice at Movable Ink. Her team builds ongoing contact with customers through multiple channels, including:Quarterly fireside chats with CMOs who share their challenges and ideas.A hybrid customer advisory board that rotates in staff members to observe and participate.Strategic placement of marketers at in-person events where they can form real connections.These interactions do more than collect feedback. They create a loop where customer input shapes campaigns, product positioning, and content. Alison credits these relationships with Movable Ink's staying power. Marketers who use their platform often bring it with them when they change roles or companies, expanding the brand's reach through personal advocacy."We spend a lot of time now trying to bring our team members in close contact with our customers in more than just a servicing capacity," Alison explains. "They need to develop personal relationships that inform the work they are doing, whether it is content marketing, events, or ABM."Alison also leans on product marketing as a partner in capturing deeper customer knowledge. She highlights win-loss interviews as especially valuable. Unlike survey data, these conversations expose what is working and where gaps exist with enough specificity to guide real change. Her team uses these discussions to refine strategy and make decisions with authority. Marketers who adopt this mindset do more than execute tactics. They become trusted voices in shaping what their company brings to market.Key takeaway: Build constant, meaningful contact with your customers. Use advisory boards, interviews, and live events to hear their unfiltered perspectives. Treat these conversations as fuel for your campaigns and strategies. When you consistently advocate for customers with authority, you position yourself as someone whose work will stay relevant no matter how the tools, titles, or industry trends shift.AI Literacy in Marketing: How to Build AI Literacy in Marketing TeamsAI literacy in marketing takes shape when organizations stop treating AI like a playground and start building a framework for real, coordinated adoption. Alison Albeck Lindland pushes for a model where alignment and enablement come before experimentation. “You need to make sure you're all singing from the same songbook,” she says. When teams skip that step, they end up with scattered projects, compliance headaches, and wasted time. A clear, shared framework turns AI from a set of personal experiments into an enterprise capability.This is why the updated Pyramid of AI Literacy begins with organizational alignment and standardized tooling at its base. These steps give teams a shared understanding of the company's AI strategy, ethical guidelines, and compliance boundaries, along with enterprise-grade tools that build institutional knowledge instead of one-off fiefdoms. Alison's point is direct: enterprise AI can only scale when everyone is using the same platforms and working from the same rulebook.“OpenAI is great, but we're using a tool that lets us build institutional muscle and share learnings across teams.”The middle of the pyramid focuses on practical proficiency, experimentation, and model literacy. Teams develop real competency with structured prompts and multi-model workflows. They also learn how large language models work and how AI connects to data, workflows, and machine learning systems. Experience does not come from a training course. It comes from giving teams space to test ideas, share lessons learned, and build the muscle memory to use AI effectively.At the top sits strategic leadership. This is where marketing leaders guide the organization with clear purpose, challenge hype, and embed AI into the company's growth strategy. At Movable Ink, this looks like dedicated business analysts building custom AI apps that plug into daily work, from a brand voice checker to a natural language search bot for surfacing industry-specific content. These tools live inside workflows, making AI part of the operating rhythm instead of a side project.Key takeaway: Use the pyramid as your blueprint for building AI literacy. Start by aligning the organization on strategy, ethics, and enterprise tools. Then train teams to get real value from AI through structured prompts, model literacy, and cross-functional experimentation. Finally, put strong leadership at the top to guide adoption with purpose. That way you can move AI from scattered experiments to a unified, scalable capability that drives ...

In this episode, Dan Czech, Vice President of Insights at KLAS, and my colleague Mark Ewrich, Chief Strategy Officer at Health Launchpad, and I discuss a  “Must-Read” study, “Navigating the Uncertainty of Federal Policy 2025.”Dan and his team at KLAS surveyed almost 170 healthcare organizations to understand how they're responding to recent federal policy changes and budget uncertainties.In this week's episode, you will learn how healthcare organizations are navigating through shifting federal policies without clear direction. The study reveals that 90% of organizations feel they lack the clarity needed to act decisively, and 85% have developed multiple contingency plans to respond to policy changes.Dan, Mark, I talked through the five key themes from this study. They have significant implications for healthcare technology vendors. Most surprisingly, despite all the uncertainty, IT budgets aren't being frozen - they're being redirected toward specific priorities like AI, automation, and cybersecurity. Organizations are looking for solutions that can help them reduce workforce costs while maintaining the quality of care.Mark provides insightful commentary throughout our discussion on how healthcare technology companies should position themselves in this environment - focusing on de-risking solutions, demonstrating clear ROI, and aligning with the specific areas where organizations are still willing to invest.This study is essential reading for anyone selling into healthcare right now, as it provides a roadmap for understanding where opportunities still exist despite the challenging environment.Key Topics Covered:(00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:00) Contingency Planning(00:05:00) Theme 1: Planning Through the Fog(00:07:00) Theme 2: Policy Shifts Drive Hard Choices(00:11:00) Theme 3: IT Budgets Redirected, Not Frozen(00:15:00) Theme 4: AI as the Bright Spot(00:19:00) Theme 5: Value-Based Care Momentum(00:24:00) Theme 6: Small Organizations at Greater Risk(00:26:00) Closing Thoughts and TakeawaysKLAS Report: Government and Regulatory Impact on Healthcare Delivery Organizations 2025Want to learn more about planning for changing regulations? Explore this topic in greater depth in our detailed blog post. We provide a dozen actionable best practices. Check it out.Interested in exploring how to improve your podcasting strategy? Reach out to Adam directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call—just an opportunity to talk through your LinkedIn questions and challenges.Subscribe to The HealthTech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!

Scrappy ABM is back with practical playbooks that save teams from heartache and stalled programs. Host Mason Cosby sits down with Amanda (Florez) Palmarchuk, the strategist behind many successful client programs. Together, they share simple tips and proven approaches to building ABM initiatives that actually work.This conversation unpacks how to narrow focus in global markets, identify the right accounts to pursue, and avoid overengineering your strategy. Amanda reveals how segmentation drives success, why starting with existing content accelerates results, and how aligning metrics to progression stages keeps programs on track. They also discuss common missteps like rushing the process or asking for meetings too early—and how to prevent them.Listeners will walk away with specific ways to repurpose content, choose channels that matter, and measure what really proves ABM is working.

It's never been harder to be a CMO—and never more important to get it right. Budgets are shrinking, burnout is rising, and the pressure to deliver pipeline and prove impact hasn't let up. If you're still trying to lead through this alone, you're already behind.Hey there, I'm Kerry Curran, B2B Chief Revenue Officer, Industry Analyst, and host of Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast.In Scale Smarter Under Pressure: How CMOs Win with Peer Collaboration, I'm joined by Kathleen Booth, SVP of Marketing and Growth at Pavilion. We talk about how today's most effective CMOs are navigating change, pressure, and AI disruption—without losing their edge. Kathleen shares what she's seeing across Pavilion's global network of go-to-market leaders and why the ones still winning are focused on three essential pillars:Profitable, efficient growth AI for go-to-market Personal transformation Because resilience isn't a luxury anymore—it's a leadership requirement.We also dive into what makes GTM25, Pavilion's flagship event, different from any other conference out there—and why it's a must-attend for marketing and revenue leaders looking to scale smarter in 2026 and beyond.Be sure to stay tuned to the end, where Kathleen shares a powerful mindset shift that redefines what it means to be a modern CMO—and how to become the strategic growth architect your business needs now.If you get value from this episode, hit follow, drop a quick rating, and send it to someone in marketing, sales, or the C-suite who needs to hear it. Let's go.Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:01.417)Welcome, Kathleen. Please introduce yourself and share your background and expertise.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (00:06.382)Hey Kerry, thanks for having me on the show. My name is Kathleen Booth. I am the SVP of Marketing and Growth at Pavilion, a global private membership community for go-to-market executives. Our mission is to help go-to-market leaders succeed in their careers at a time when tenures are notoriously short and the pressure is extremely high.Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:33.417)Excellent. Thank you so much for joining today, Kathleen. As we've discussed, I'm a bit obsessed with Pavilion right now. There are so many smart examples, learnings, coursework—just tons of content to up-level executives. But what I love is that it emphasizes that marketing, sales, and customer success must work together to drive revenue and business growth. I know you're talking to a lot of CMOs, CROs, and customer success executives. What are you really hearing today? What are the challenges or what does the marketplace look like for them?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (01:19.086)The theme word of the year is “uncertainty.” We get a lot of feedback from our members and more broadly. We're living through a time of tremendous pressure on go-to-market leaders in general—and CMOs in particular. It wouldn't be a podcast if we didn't mention AI.Artificial intelligence is transforming everything so quickly, it's difficult to find solid ground. As soon as you think you understand something, it changes again. Data shows buying complexity is increasing. Leadership turnover is high. Legal, regulatory, and geopolitical instability make it hard to predict even six months out.Recent data from G2 shows vendor shortlists are shrinking—from four to seven options previously, to just one to three now. That makes it harder to even get considered. Marketers have to step up brand awareness and demand, but budgets are under pressure.According to Gartner, only 24% of CMOs say they have enough budget to execute their strategy. Marketing budgets as a percent of total revenue are down 11% from 2020. The challenges are growing, but our toolset is shrinking. Then there's AI. It brings promise—but also complexity.Salesforce found that marketers see AI as both the top opportunity and the top challenge. One person called it a “proble-tunity.” Around 75% of marketers have experimented with AI, and marketing is seen as the most advanced department when it comes to adoption. But only 32% say they're using it adequately.And the result of all of this? Burnout.Gartner's CMO Leadership Vision report shows that marketers facing high levels of change are twice as likely to experience burnout. We're all feeling it. To make it worse, only 14% of CMOs are viewed as effective at shaping markets—a skill that's crucial for hitting revenue targets.All of this suggests the modern CMO must be commercial, creative, and AI-powered. We're in a first-principles moment where we need to rethink what marketing organizations look like, how to build go-to-market motions, and what role AI should play.We can't just be storytellers or data crunchers. We need to be strategic growth architects.Kerry Curran, RBMA (06:10.941)Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. To your point, where the CMO was once seen as the creative or visual lead, now marketing is more directly connected to revenue. McKinsey did a study a year and a half ago saying companies that put marketing at the core of their growth strategy outperform their peers.Then in June, they released another study saying the biggest challenge for CMOs now is getting closer to the CFO—earning respect at the leadership table. And you're right: it can't all be done by AI. It's not just branding and communications anymore. It's more complex—and CMOs have more demands, tighter budgets, and higher expectations.What frustrates me is that it still falls to the CMO to educate the rest of the executive team on the value of marketing. I know Pavilion does a great job helping upskill and educate executives—especially in marketing and sales. What's the solution? How are you solving this? And how should leaders outside of marketing be thinking about it?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (07:49.068)At the start of the year, we identified three cross-cutting themes for the Pavilion community—not just for marketing. And they've held up, even with how much has changed.First is “profitable, efficient growth.” This speaks directly to marketers needing to understand the P&L and get closer to the CFO to make smarter bets.Second is “AI for go-to-market.” Unsurprisingly, we have to lean in. I love that marketers are seen as AI leaders within their organizations. If we can solidify that position, it's not just job security—it's a way to lead from the front. We should be saying, “I'm out ahead of this, and I'm bringing the company with me.”The third theme—maybe a little “woo-woo”—is “personal transformation and resiliency.” Because it is hard. The stress is real. You and I were talking before we started recording about unplugging for vacation. That's not just a luxury—it's essential. We can't teach people how to take care of themselves, but we can remind them that it matters just as much as staying on top of AI.Kerry Curran, RBMA (09:54.183)Yeah, definitely. I love those three pillars—and they truly are cross-cutting. Can you go deeper on how Pavilion is helping marketers in each area? I know you're doing a lot with AI onboarding, upskilling, and coursework. And yes, marketers are definitely carrying the torch there.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (10:24.046)Sure! One way to encapsulate it is with our flagship event: GTM2025. It's happening September 23–25 in Washington, D.C. (you can learn more at attendgtm.com). It brings our members together to share perspectives and preview where our “product”—which is really an experience—is heading.For marketers specifically, we have a dedicated sub-community led by incredible members. They host regular roundtables because—let's be real—the landscape is changing too fast for blogs and newsletters to keep up. You need peers. You need the hive mind.Then, tied to profitable, efficient growth, we have our CMO School—teaching what it takes to be world-class. GTM2025 will feature sessions on P&L fluency, leadership, and more.AI and GTM is a huge theme. The entire conference focuses on “AI and the Future of GTM.” It's not just a buzzword—every speaker is talking about how it's transforming their work. We're also teaching specific courses on building an AI-augmented go-to-market team: tools, workflows, and real-world examples.For the personal transformation side, we're one of the only conferences with a wellness room—sound baths, guided meditations. We also include topics outside the typical ABM and ad campaign tracks. This year, our keynotes reflect that.One I'm super excited about is Will Guidara, author of “Unreasonable Hospitality.” He was GM of Eleven Madison Park—the world's first vegan Michelin-starred restaurant. The book is about how hospitality—not just great food—helped them become the best restaurant in the world. It's surprisingly a business book: process, customer orientation, service. He'll talk about hospitality as a driver of business excellence.Then we have Henry Schuck, CEO of ZoomInfo. They just changed their NASDAQ ticker to GTM—so they're clearly committed to go-to-market alignment. I'm excited to hear his perspective.We'll also feature Noelle Russell, author of “Scaling Responsible AI.” AI is still the Wild West, and we need to understand the guardrails. What are we accountable for as adopters?Finally—and this is a first—we're hosting a geopolitical keynote panel because the event is in D.C. We can't talk go-to-market strategy and ignore what's happening with the economy, regulation, supply chains, tariffs, and labor.Our panel features Josh Barro and Megan McArdle—both independent, balanced journalists—plus one more speaker TBD. They'll focus on facts, implications, and how leaders should incorporate them into strategic planning.And for those who prefer to skip political talk, don't worry—the bar opens early!Kerry Curran, RBMA (17:47.997)Yes! That is so relevant for what's on business leaders' minds—especially CMOs. I love that you're hitting every angle. From hospitality and customer-centricity to AI and global context—it's all interconnected. And I'm especially excited for the Women's Summit the day before.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (19:00.758)Yes! Anne and Lindsay—leaders of our Women of Pavilion community—have built something special. They led our first Women's Summit last year, and it was incredible. This year's agenda is entirely member-driven, sourced from our networks, and centered around the real issues facing female leaders.Kerry Curran, RBMA (19:40.647)Lindsay was a guest on the podcast—she's brilliant. And Anne as well. Every event and session I've attended has been so thoughtful. Kathleen, this has been incredibly valuable. For listeners unfamiliar with Pavilion, can you share what resources and support it provides?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (20:08.110)Of course. Pavilion is a private membership community for go-to-market executives and aspirants. We offer:- A private Slack community with functional groups- 50+ local chapters around the world- Pavilion University (with CMO School, GTM School, AI School, etc.)- Career services, job board, mentorship- Events: GTM, CMO Summit, local dinners, and moreIt's about creating a trusted peer network, providing operator-built education, and fostering connection. That's how we support leaders through this new GTM era.Kerry Curran, RBMA (21:34.439)Totally agree. I joined in March and wish I had joined sooner. The coursework has brought structure and rigor to initiatives I previously had to figure out on my own. The peer learning is incredible. And the dinners are next-level—I'm headed to one in Boston tomorrow. Last time we joked we should build a better CRM on a cocktail napkin.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (22:45.709)I love that.Kerry Curran, RBMA (22:56.605)We're clearly biased, but for those thinking about how to grow and lead in today's GTM world, what should they be focusing on?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (23:15.118)I'll close with some data and advice: 84% of leaders believe their company's identity will need to significantly change in the next five years. That's massive.CMOs are well-positioned to lead that change—if they step up:First, build cross-functional leadership muscles. Pavilion excels at this. It's not just about marketing—it's learning to partner with sales, CS, ops.Second, shape the market. Be the narrative builder and operationalize brand trust. With AI exploding, brand is having a renaissance. CMOs must lead here.Third, guide the customer experience. We've talked about hospitality, but post-sale is more important than ever. Marketing needs to drive loyalty, retention, and evangelism.With AI and product data, we can now create truly personalized journeys—at scale. That opens a world of opportunity.Kerry Curran, RBMA (27:01.095)So many valuable points. Thank you for joining us today, Kathleen! How can people learn more about GTM2025, Pavilion, or connect with you?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (27:19.886)You can learn more at joinpavilion.com and attendgtm.com. And feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn—just mention you heard this podcast!Kerry Curran, RBMA (27:40.585)Thank you! Looking forward to seeing you in September.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (27:45.623)I can't wait.Thanks for listening to Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast. If Kathleen's insights resonated with you and you're ready to stop leading in a vacuum, remember this: the best CMOs aren't doing more—they're doing it smarter, together. If you got value from this episode, do me a quick favor: hit follow, leave a rating, and share this with someone in marketing, sales, or the C-suite who needs to hear it.And don't miss the event of the year for go-to-market leaders: GTM2025, hosted by Pavilion. It's where marketing, sales, and customer success executives come together to connect, learn, and lead what's next. Register today at attendgtm.com.If you want more growth frameworks, peer strategies, and go-to-market insights, head to revenuebasedmarketing.com or connect with me, Kerry Curran, on LinkedIn. More powerhouse episodes are coming soon, so stay tuned and keep scaling smart. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

This is episode 777. Read the complete transcript on the Sales Game Changers Podcast website here. In this episode of Marketing for Selling Effectiveness, a sub-series of the Sales Game Changers Podcast, host Fred Diamond and co-host Julie Murphy of Sage Communications welcome a powerhouse guest. Zhenia Klevitsky, Chief Growth Officer at ITC Federal, appears on today's show. One of the key messages that the Institute for Effective Professional Selling (IEPS) strongly communicates is that Sales and Marketing must work stronger together today more than ever before. With two decades of experience in government contracting, Zhenia shares real-world strategies for aligning sales and marketing to win complex, high-stakes federal deals. She explains why the old silos between BD and marketing no longer work and how modern GovCon growth teams must act as a unified revenue engine. You'll learn: ✅ Why mission-first messaging is essential in federal sales ✅ How account-based marketing (ABM) shapes perception long before the RFP ✅ The power of community involvement in building trust with government buyers ✅ Why thought leadership beats traditional capture in today's market  ✅ How AI, automation, and shifting buyer expectations are changing the rules Zhenia also shares a detailed case study on how her team successfully embedded into a tight-knit local community in New Mexico and won a major contract through a bold mix of philanthropy, targeted marketing, and authenticity. Whether you're a B2G sales leader, a marketing strategist, or an executive navigating the federal buying landscape, this episode will challenge you to rethink your approach and embrace true collaboration.

Scrappy ABM, hosted by Mason Cosby, sits down with Rob Bellenfant, CEO of TechnologyAdvice, to uncover why most B2B marketers struggle with content syndication. Rob shares how the right partner and the right audience create real pipeline, not just contact lists.This conversation highlights why building trust with first-party audiences changes everything, how authenticity drives engagement, and why educational content alone is no longer enough. Rob explains the four ingredients every piece of content needs—education, production value, time efficiency, and entertainment—and why missing even one kills ROI.From choosing syndication channels to setting up feedback loops that actually work, listeners will hear clear ways to measure success and pivot fast. Whether targeting small businesses or moving upmarket, Rob's insights reveal how to adjust expectations, fight out incumbents, and make every content dollar count.

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In this episode of the Healthtech Marketing Podcast, we kick off our new AI Quick Takes series. Adam Turinas explains how generative AI is fundamentally changing search traffic and what healthcare technology marketers need to know about Google's EEAT framework. Drawing from his own experience of declining website traffic despite years of steady growth, Adam explains how AI overviews are reducing organic search traffic while creating new opportunities for brands that understand Google's Experience, Expertise, Authoritativeness, and Trustworthiness signals.The episode offers practical strategies for healthcare technology companies to refine their content marketing approach. Hear real-world examples of how proper EEAT implementation can lead to inclusion in AI overviews and offers actionable advice for maintaining visibility in an AI-driven search landscape.Key Topics Covered:“(00:00:00) Introduction to AI Quick Takes series”“(00:01:00) The challenge AI poses to search traffic and marketing”“(00:04:00) Introduction to EEAT framework”“(00:05:00) The importance of Experience - showcasing real-world implementations”“(00:06:00) Expertise - demonstrating deep subject matter competency”“(00:06:00) Authoritativeness - building reputation and earning citations”“(00:07:00) Trustworthiness - the most important E-E-A-T element according to Google”“(00:09:00) Practical strategies”“(00:13:00) Four key takeaways and expected outcomes from E-E-A-T implementation”“(00:14:00] Call to action and resources for further engagement”Blog article mentioned in this episode.Want to learn more about EEAT? Explore this topic in greater depth in our detailed blog post. We provide a dozen actionable best practices. Check it out.Interested in exploring how to improve your AI strategy? Reach out to Adam directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call—just an opportunity to talk through your AI questions and challenges.Subscribe to The HealthTech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!

I love the movie City Slickers.If you're unfamiliar, Billy Crystal is a Manhattanite, has a midlife crisis, and goes out West on a cattle drive to try to figure life out.Spoiler alert, the crusty old cowboy teaches him that the secret to life is – ‘One thing. Just one thing. You stick to that and everything else don't mean shhh…” Well, you get the idea.It struck me that this is a great brand lesson as well. You've seen the stats – our ideal customer simply gets hammered with messages every day. And there are so many things your internal team could work on. How to break through the noise? How to prioritize? I love what my next guest told me – “If you don't have one clear position of who you are and why they should care, you're just throwing spaghetti at a wall.”To hear the story behind that lesson, along with many more lesson-filled stories, I sat down with Margaret Dawson, CMO, Chronosphere [https://chronosphere.io/].Chronosphere has raised $343 million in three rounds. In its Series C round in 2023, the company was valued at $1.6 billion.Dawson leads global marketing efforts at Chronosphere, overseeing a budget of $12 million and a team of 23 working on digital experience, corporate communications, demand generation, customer marketing, ABM, Marketing Ops, and Product Marketing.Lessons from the things she madeIf you don't have one clear position of who you are and why they should care, you're just throwing spaghetti at a wallSometimes you need to poke the snakeIntegrated marketing moves the needleMentoring is a two-way streetJust because you can do something doesn't mean you shouldDon't focus so much on winning each battle that you lose the warIf you channeled the characteristics that made you so competent and made you authentically you, you would have the greatest powerWe do not serve ourselves or the world by hiding our light or being afraid to stand tallDiscussed in this episodeJoin us on July 30th at 2 pm EDT for AI Hackathon: Build a powerful lead gen agent in just 90 minutes [https://join.meclabsai.com/mec-050-masterclass] (from MeclabsAI, MarketingSherpa's parent company).Outside-In Messaging: Nothing counts more than the language of the customer (podcast episode #75) [https://marketingsherpa.com/article/interview/outside-in-messaging]The 4 Pillars of Email Marketing [https://sherpablog.marketingsherpa.com/email-marketing/4-pillars-email-summit-2014/]Building Brands: People and culture matter a lot, mentorship matters even more, product matters the most (podcast episode #119) [https://marketingsherpa.com/article/interview/brands]Marketing Campaigns: Lose the brand ego and lean into humility (podcast episode #130) [https://marketingsherpa.com/article/interview/marketing-campaigns]Get more episodesSubscribe to the MarketingSherpa email newsletter [https://www.marketingsherpa.com/newsletters] to get more insights from your fellow marketers. Sign up for free if you'd like to get more episodes like this one.For more insights, check out...TApply to be a guestIf you would like to apply to be a guest on How I Made It In Marketing, here is the podcast guest application – https://www.marketingsherpa.com/page/podcast-guest-application

In this episode of Tomorrow's Best Practices, host Clark Newby sits down with Doug Bell, Partner and CMO at Chief Outsiders and co-host of Cannonball GTM. Doug, a seasoned CMO with extensive experience in SaaS go-to-market strategies, shares his insights on navigating the current landscape of marketing. Discover how macroeconomic shifts, the rise of AI tools, and a focus on "existential data points" are reshaping outbound and inbound marketing motions. Doug reveals how to leverage publicly available data, AI, and "vibe coding" to create highly targeted, permissionless value propositions that cut through the noise. Learn why traditional ABM is evolving, how SEO is transitioning to Geo (Generative Engine Optimization), and the critical role social media now plays in capturing buyer attention. -----CONNECT with us at:Website: https://leadtail.com/Leadtail TV: https://www.leadtailtv.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lead...Twitter: https://twitter.com/leadtailFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Leadtail/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadtail/----0:00 Introduction: Doug Bell, CMO at Chief Outsiders1:24 Current Market Focus: AI, Tariffs & SaaS Marketing3:33 The Existential Data Point: Driving Business Growth4:37 Vibe Coding & Permissionless Value Propositions7:26 Beyond Traditional Marketing Messages9:31 The Marketing Skill Gap & Data Manipulation14:48 Inbound Evolution: From SEO to Geo19:36 The Rise of Generative Engine Optimization (GEO)23:56 The Accelerating Shift to AI for Business Research27:49 Career Advice for Marketers: Curiosity, Data & Playbook Shaking#b2bmarketing #b2b

What happens when marketing stops being a support function and starts driving revenue?In this episode, Carlota Feliu, Head of Marketing at HP, shares how modern B2B marketing is evolving — closer to sales, closer to customers, and much closer to impact.Carlota unpacks the blurred line between ABM and demand gen, the real meaning of marketing-sales alignment, and how AI is (and isn't) changing how we work. If you're a marketing leader or aspiring to be one, this conversation is packed with hard-won insights from inside a global org navigating change.You'll learn:→ Why ABM and demand gen are two sides of the same strategy→ How marketing earns its seat at the revenue table→ What it takes to build real alignment between marketing and sales→ How AI can help solve problems without adding noise→ A simple framework (3Rs) to keep brand, relationships, and revenue in balance→ Advice for emerging marketing leaders in today's revenue-driven climate

When everyone's racing to launch big strategies, success takes more than smart tactics. It takes alignment, discipline, and deep cross-functional trust.That's how the heroes in Spidey and His Amazing Friends, the hit animated Marvel kids' show, defeat the villains. In this episode, we unpack marketing lessons from Spidey's universe with the help of our special guest Emily Ferdinando, CMO at Bugcrowd.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from nailing ABM execution, building content grounded in community feedback, and turning shared goals into real, coordinated action.About our guest, Emily FerdinandoEmily Ferdinando is a go-to-market leader with a focus on pipeline and revenue growth. She brings 15 years of GTM leadership experience, specializing in optimizing operational processes and data-driven strategy. With a background in sales and operations, Emily brings a unique approach to Marketing focused on down-funnel impact and top-line growth. Emily joins Bugcrowd from Veracode where she most recently led the Growth Marketing organization. Her background includes leadership roles across the GTM engine, including Global Business Development, GTM Enablement, and Operational Strategy. While there, she led the team through multiple events and two successful exits. Emily lives in New Hampshire with her husband and two young children. She enjoys the outdoors and stretching her creative muscles through painting, fiction writing and guitar.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Spidey and His Amazing Friends:Alignment over silos. In one episode, Spidey, Ghosty, and Miles all chase Rhino with their own plans, each using their powers, none working together. The mission falls apart. “We can say we have the same goal all day, but if we're not aligned on how we get there… that's what it's gonna look like,” Emily says. In marketing and in superhero teams, the difference between success and disaster isn't talent, it's coordination.One-size-fits-all content fits no one. Spidey's world works because it's made for everyone. Each with different powers, personalities, backgrounds, and their own story. That same inclusive mindset should guide your content. “Many people did not fit squarely into one piece,” Emily says. “If we ran our strategy that way, they were missing exposure to a lot of content that was really relevant to them.” Real impact comes from serving the overlaps, not the edges.Simple stories stick. Spidey and His Amazing Friends makes complex ideas—like teamwork, trust, and problem-solving—land through bright colors and clear stakes. For marketers, that's the goal too. “Making internal assumptions without pressure testing with the people who are going to be receiving the output of your team, it's a huge miss,” Emily says. Whether you're leading kids or customers, never assume they're on board. Ask, listen, and build with them.Quote“Spidey and His Amazing Friends, they really teach you what actual in practice, collaboration is supposed to look like and not look like. And it's really as simple as…you step back. We all know what we're supposed to do. It's just really hard in practice sometimes, and sometimes you can learn from the kids' shows. You just step back and go, we know what to do, we just need to do it.”Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Emily Ferdinando, CMO at Bugcrowd[01:00] Why Spidey and His Amazing Friends?[02:20] The Role of a CMO at Bugcrowd[03:00] Origins of Spidey and His Amazing Friends[19:38] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Spidey and His Amazing Friends[29:21] Bugcrowd's ABM Launch[33:30] Repackaging Content for Better Engagement[40:13] Bugcrowd's Content Strategy and Community Engagement[47:20] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Emily on LinkedInLearn more about BugcrowdAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

In this episode of The HealthTech Marketing Show, I welcome Carol Flagg, founder of Answers Media Network and Healthcare IT Radio, to discuss the evolution of podcasting and the emerging trend of video podcasting in healthcare technology marketing.Carol shares her journey from traditional media sales to building a healthcare IT content syndication network and discusses how the podcasting landscape has reached several key tipping points.Our conversation explores practical strategies for healthcare technology companies considering podcast creation, emphasizing the importance of niche targeting, engaging hosts, and leveraging AI tools to streamline production and content repurposing. Discover why video podcasting represents a fresh opportunity to maximize your content investment and how it can serve as a foundation for a modern growth strategy.Key Topics Covered:"(00:00:00) Introduction""(00:04:00) Evolution of podcasting and the key tipping points that shaped the industry""(00:06:30) The current tipping point: video podcasting driven by YouTube's entry""(00:07:00) Technical explanation of video podcast distribution through RSS feeds""(00:08:00) How video podcasts can be distributed to Apple, Spotify, and YouTube simultaneously""(00:10:00) Answers Media Network's business model as a syndication and distribution partner""(00:13:00) Notable shows in the Healthcare IT Radio network""(00:15:00) The reality of podcast audience sizes and engagement challenges""(00:16:00) Why healthcare technology firms should invest in podcasting""(00:19:00) Content repurposing strategies: "Content is king, but syndication is queen"""(00:22:00) Impact of generative AI on content discovery and traffic""(00:23:00) The importance of niche targeting in podcast strategy""(00:26:00) Qualities that make a great podcast: engaging hosts and storytelling""(00:28:00) Using AI tools like Claude for content repurposing and article creation""(00:30:00) YouTube's growing dominance in podcast listening""(00:32:00) Importance of detailed show notes and embedded links for SEO""(00:34:00) Future predictions: video podcasting as the new standard""(00:35:00) Final tips"Want to learn more about how podcasting is changing? Explore this topic in greater depth in our detailed blog post. We provide a dozen actionable best practices. Check it out.Interested in exploring how to improve your podcasting strategy? Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call—just an opportunity to talk through your LinkedIn questions and challenges.Subscribe to The HealthTech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!

We dig into: The 3-part growth flywheel: Be ready, be memorable, be findable Why most agencies lose before the pitch process even begins The shift from reactive pitching to proactive visibility and relevance What today's clients actually look for when shortlisting agency partners Why clarity, consistency, and conviction in your story are your competitive edge If you're leading new business, driving growth, or rethinking your agency's positioning—this episode is your wake-up call. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

In this episode of the Account-Based Marketing podcast, Heather Adkins shares the art and science of scaling ABM through sector-driven teams, AI-powered agents, and a relentless client focus.

Of all the areas AI is poised to overturn, marketing is at the top of the list. In truth, Silicon Valley has long held marketing is low esteem. Google CEO Eric Schmidt once sniffed that brand marketing is "the last bastion of unaccountable corporate spending." The mathification of marketing will go into hyperdrive, as AI is used to create some kind of agentic ecosystem of bots persuading bots. All of this is great scifi to Anonymous Brand Marketer, a Fortune 500 marketer who sees as much BS as promise in AI's application to marketing. ABM sees it both rationalizing and driving efficiencies in performance marketing while leading to a mini-resurgence in the kinds of brand marketing that connects to humans in ways that a Salesforce agent cannot.

We dig into: How customer-centric storytelling earns attention and trust Why diversity and inclusion are revenue strategies, not just values How to build visibility for underrepresented voices (including your own) Ways to shift from promoting product features to elevating your audience's identity and success Melissa also shares how she's helping female executives move from operating quietly to showing up powerfully and why that visibility benefits not just the individual, but the brand. If you're ready to make your brand more relevant, more human, and more effective—this one's for you. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

In this episode of the Transform Sales Podcast: Sales Software Review Series, Eddie Bello

Marketing is easy to understand as a Marketer, duh. But to other departments (like Finance, Ops, Sales, etc.), it can be hard to get them to understand WHY your company needs Marketing.  Enter: Steve Stano, a Marketing leader in the financial services space. Sure, not everyone is a Marketer, but he's here to break down how you can get everyone on board, in the loop, and up to date about what Marketing can do.  What does data have to do with it? Turns out, data should be the reason you do anything. You need the numbers to back it up. And as Marketers, it's our job to paint the picture so others understand why we do things.  Plus, what's smarter ABM? We talk about how account-based marketing tactics are evolving based on buying signals and behavior. Whether you're a Marketer at a large company or at a startup, this is the episode for you.  Follow Steve: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestano/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Lee shares the sales effectiveness habits that separate top performers from the rest: Why training alone doesn't work—and what coaching really looks like How to develop curiosity and authenticity as sales superpowers What deliberate practice means (and why most teams skip it)How sales leaders can drive better prep, follow-through, and customer trust Why sales enablement needs a seat at the strategic planning table Whether you're a CRO, VP of Sales, or sales enablement leader, this episode will help you refocus your team on what actually drives pipeline momentum: authentic preparation, emotional intelligence, and trusted conversations—not just activity volume. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

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You'll learn: How to lead marketing teams through layoffs without losing trust Why recognition drives retention, performance, and collaboration How to operationalize values into your team culture The business case for investing in appreciation even during a downturn How to support employees through change with real empathy Whether you're scaling a growth team, navigating change, or rebuilding morale, this episode is packed with actionable leadership insights for marketers, founders, and executives alike. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

This episode features an interview with Suzanne Behrens, CMO at Granicus, a software company that helps better engage governments and the people they serve.Suzanne discusses how Granicus is transforming engagement through AI-driven marketing, investing in digital channels over booths, and ensuring tight sales alignment. Key Takeaways:While procurement processes differ, public sector buyers still seek personalized, digital-first experiences. Meeting them with the right message at the right time is just as critical as in traditional B2B marketing.New tools allow a new level of precision, and marketers needs to stop with mass marketing effort and focus on higher prospects.While events are crucial for many CMOs we speak to, they can also be high cost and it may make more sense to overinvest in digital channels to meet customers where they are.Quote: “  We've got a tech stack with some tools that are AI-enabled, that we've adopted and hosted, that have really helped us more effectively understand buyer's behavior and intent to help us target opportunities more effectively, versus in the past, it used to be mass marketing. You'd sort of throw it out there and hope someone will, you know, call you. It's really now about looking at their behavior and intent to help us target more effectively and personalize the experience and customize from a super ABM perspective of reaching prospects and customers. So, leveraging different tools to help us do that. We're reaching them when they're ready. They're much higher prospect than just sort of casting a wide net.”Episode Timestamps: *(02:36) The Trust Tree: Selling globally to many personas *(05:04) The Playbook: Overinvesting in digital and web*(21:37) The Dust Up: Meeting in the middle*(22:47) Quick Hits: Suzanne's quick hits Sponsor:Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com. Qualified helps you turn your website into a pipeline generation machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable website visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, intent data, and Piper, your AI SDR. Visit Qualified.com to learn more.Links:Connect with Ian on LinkedInConnect with Suzanne on LinkedInLearn more about GranicusLearn more about Caspian Studios

Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody talks with Angela (Bruns) Herlihy about crafting and scaling an account-based strategy that aligns teams and delivers results. From her early days in gymnastics to leading marketing ops in a public company, Angela shares a compelling story of grit and growth.She walks through the operational realities of building ABM frameworks in resource-constrained environments, redefines what ABM really means across sales and marketing, and explains how to make strategic decisions with imperfect data. Angela's hands-on experience and pragmatic mindset offer a roadmap for anyone navigating the messy middle of ABM adoption.If you're looking to operationalize strategy, influence pipeline, and align GTM teams—this episode delivers both inspiration and actionable advice.Key TakeawaysABM Surfaces Everything: Account-based strategies expose every operational weakness—data silos, unclear accountability, or misaligned teams. But if addressed early, they lead to better GTM alignment and faster deal velocity.Reframe ABM as a Strategy: ABM isn't a campaign or a tech tool—it's a company-wide approach to relationship building. Angie's team embraced a tiered model (1:1, 1:few, 1:many) and shifted toward lifecycle-based engagement.Get Scrappy with Data: With limited resources, Angela built centralized dashboards using Google Sheets and manual inputs—creating a shared source of truth across sales and marketing.Co-Ownership with Sales: Alignment means co-creating everything from account selection to success metrics. Dashboards, engagement trackers, and real-time sales alerts made collaboration a practice, not a one-time effort.Lead with Progress, Not Just Revenue: Revenue is a lagging indicator. Angela focuses on buying group engagement, deal progression, and pipeline influence to maintain momentum and build trust.ABM ≠ Just Marketing: Angela avoids jargon and explains ABM through real-world examples that resonate with sales, leadership, and marketing alike. Her redefinition of ABM makes it feel like a growth strategy for the entire business.Quotes“ABM doesn't just require operational alignment—it forces it.”Best moments 00:30 – From South Dakota gymnast to GTM leader: Angie's journey.04:00 – How ABM surfaces internal misalignments and drives cross-functional clarity.07:00 – Evolving ABM from campaign-based to lifecycle-based strategy.08:40 – Scrappy ABM: Centralizing fragmented data without overhauling tech.11:00 – Aligning marketing and sales through shared metrics and processes.13:30 – Redefining ABM and earning internal buy-in with relatable use cases.15:30 – Balancing speed with long-term data discipline.Tech recommendationsPerplexityClaudeHubSpot (for its rapid evolution and product breadth)Resource recommendationsPodcasts:Talking Shop by Kelly Hopping – GTM alignment and real-world marketing challengesProf G Pod by Scott Galloway – Sharp insights on business, tech, and leadershipNewsletter:Marketoonist by Tom Fishburne – Humorous yet insightful takes on marketing absurditiesAbout the guestAngela (Bruns) Herlihy is a seasoned B2B marketing leader with a rare blend of technical expertise and strategic insight. Currently at DoubleVerify, Angela has built and scaled a full-stack marketing operations function covering everything from campaign management and analytics to website strategy and ABM.Her career spans roles in market research, database marketing, and marketing operations at companies including Gartner Digital Markets and LaserSpine Institute. Angela's work has influenced demand gen, reviewer acquisition, and full-funnel ABM strategy. She's known for her ability to scale marketing functions from scratch, align cross-functional teams, and drive operational efficiency with measurable impact.Angela brings a unique mix of grit, precision, and vision to her work—skills rooted in her background as a competitive gymnast.Connect with Angie.

In this episode of The HealthTech Marketing Show, I am joined by Colin Hung, Editor in Chief at Sway Health, and Lea Chatham, Content and Brand Strategist at Health Launchpad, to explore the evolving landscape of thought leadership in healthcare marketing. We discuss how thought leadership has transformed with new mediums, the blurring lines between paid and earned media, and practical strategies for creating authentic, impactful content.Colin shares insights from his role as a "professional conference attendee" and his experience running a healthcare marketing publication, while Lea brings 25 years of content marketing expertise to discuss how thought leadership has evolved from print newsletters to today's multi-channel approach. Learn how healthcare marketers can adapt their thought leadership strategies to modern channels while maintaining authenticity and building trust with their audiences.Key Topics Covered:"(00:00:00) Introduction" "(00:02:00) Success story: ICD-10 microsite and webinar that attracted 2,500 registrants""(00:05:00) Major shifts in thought leadership: expansion of mediums and lowered barriers to entry""(00:10:00) The blurring lines between earned and paid media in healthcare publications""(00:20:00) Colin's perspective on AI's impact on video and podcast authenticity""(00:24:00) The importance of storytelling and nuance in content creation""(00:30:00) Technical tips for video content: B-roll, being video podcast ready""(00:32:00) Lea on the importance of company-wide message alignment""(00:35:00) Going all-in on video: lessons from COVID and practical tips""(00:43:00) Using research and data in thought leadership without breaking the bank""(00:49:00) AI tools for research and content creation: benefits and cautions""(00:55:00) Closing advice"Want to learn more about how thought leadership is changing? Explore this topic in greater depth in our detailed blog post.Interested in exploring how to improve your thought leadership strategy? Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call—just an opportunity to talk through your LinkedIn questions and challenges.Subscribe to The HealthTech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!

If you want to create content that truly resonates, start by listening. Your audience is already telling you what they care about—you just need to ask the right questions and use their answers to fuel smarter, more personalized marketing. That's a quote from Rachael Bassey and a sneak peek at today's episode.Hi there, I'm Kerry Curran—B2B revenue-growth executive advisor, industry analyst, and host of Revenue Boost, a marketing podcast. Every episode, I sit down with top experts to bring you actionable strategies that drive real results. If you're serious about growth, hit subscribe and stay ahead of the competition.In From Insight to Impact: Smarter Research for Personalization That Resonates, I sit down with Rachael Bassey. She's the research partner to SaaS companies and the founder of ContentCollab.co. We explore how small marketing teams can personalize content at scale through smarter, more targeted audience research. We dig into practical ways to uncover buyer pain points, engage prospects through collaboration, and create content that stands out—especially in a sea of generic AI overviews.If you're looking for a way to connect your content strategy to pipeline impact, you don't want to miss this conversation. Be sure to stay tuned to the end, where Rachael shares how to turn contributors into loyal brand advocates and why that's the smartest way to grow both your content and your customer base. Be sure to subscribe and leave a review so you don't miss future episodes packed with actionable advice. Let's go!Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:01.72)So welcome Rachael, please introduce yourself and share your background and expertise.Rachael Bassey (00:07.279)Hey everyone, I'm Rachael Bassey. People call me Ray—Ray of Sunshine, more like it. I work as a research partner for SaaS companies. My specialization or expertise is helping companies create original research reports. I'll dive into what these reports are and my process later, but in a nutshell, that's it.Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:41.966)Excellent. Well, thank you. I'm very excited to have you join us today because content is so critically important—especially original content and research specific to the audience. So talk to us a bit about what you're seeing and hearing as you're talking to your prospects or clients. What are the needs in the marketplace these days when it comes to getting smarter, better content?Rachael Bassey (01:10.529)Okay, before I get into that—thank you so much, Kerry, for having me. Really, thank you. So two things: One—AI. You have small companies that are like, “Why bother hiring a writer when I can just go to ChatGPT and say, ‘Help me with my content plan, content calendar, and 50 articles for my blog' and get it done?” But then, a lot of people can easily spot articles written by ChatGPT, and people are tired of the robotic voice—even though I use a lot of it. People want to hear things that actually sound human.People are also hungry for data—things they can benchmark their performance against.Then on the other hand, budgets are being cut everywhere—left, right, and center. So CEOs and founders are asking, “Why should I invest more in marketing? How do we tie marketing to revenue?”There's a debate around, “Is the whole marketing funnel even relevant anymore?”You just have different arguments around whether it's important to invest in marketing or if we should even bother right now. That's pretty much what I'm seeing in the space.Kerry Curran, RBMA (03:01.484)Yeah, definitely. And it's so true—I can't have a conversation about marketing without AI being front and center. There's a lot of value there, but to your point, if you're putting all your creativity into the AI model, you're not going to get the quality you need.Adding to that, AI also impacts search results. If you're just producing generic content, your rankings will suffer. You have to get smarter about content structure so your expertise can rank better.So much opportunity here. Talk to me about how you're solving this—how are you helping your clients?Rachael Bassey (04:03.102)Great. Okay, so I'll just do a bit of a rundown.I worked with a company called Databox back in 2019. I'm no longer with them, but we started what I like to call collaborative marketing before it was even a thing. Back then, people didn't really care about talking to real people or experts and collaborating with them to create content.Now you go on LinkedIn and see a lot of people talking about original research, but before it became the trend, we were doing it. We were a small marketing team. I was employee 25 in the company, and our team had just three people: John, Bella, and me.When you have a small marketing team, you wear many hats. You might not even be an expert in the industry, yet you're expected to write 50 articles in two months. So we said, “Let's collaborate with our customers and prospects.”At the time, agencies made up the majority of Databox's clients. I would spend so much time on directories like Agency Spotter, HubSpot, and Pipedrive to find and connect with them.It made so much sense to involve these people in our content production process. We'd create simple surveys, ask them specific questions, collect their answers or insights, and publish blog articles based on their input.Eventually, we stepped it up to create benchmark reports. For example, if you're a Facebook advertiser, and your click-through rate is 2.4%, what's the industry average? We could provide that kind of insight—so companies could compare and see where they stood.That's how we scaled from publishing two articles a week to an article every day.I moved on from Databox and later worked at a company called Terkel—now known as Featured. If you know HARO, Featured is kind of a competitor.I thought, “Okay, I did this for Databox, and I know it works—how can I do this for multiple companies at once?” So at Featured, I worked with smaller teams to help them understand it's okay not to have a big marketing budget.You can still do really good work if you focus on involving customers and prospects in your content creation process. Right now, if I were to write about civil engineering, it would be based only on what I find online. But if I talk to civil engineers who spend 8 hours a day on site, they'll give me insights no AI model can produce.Your experience, Kerry, is unique to you. ChatGPT can't replicate it.Then I started my own thing after Featured—but that's the origin.Kerry Curran, RBMA (09:07.552)Excellent. So talk to me about the process though. You're identifying the client's target audience and interviewing them. You said you research to find the right experts—how do you even start with what to ask them?Rachael Bassey (09:26.34)Great. So it depends on the level I'm working with. For example, one current client—during our first meeting, I asked about their ideal clients, and the founder listed eight different groups. I said, “How do I even reach out to that many groups? You can't possibly cater to eight.”Some companies aren't even clear on their ICP, so I always say, “First, we need to get that right.”Because once you know your ICP, everything else is much easier.So, first I ask:Who are your ideal clients?Where are they based?What do they talk about?What do they write about?For this particular client, I've been spending 80% of my work time in Facebook groups. I don't even know why I'm paying for LinkedIn Premium right now! I'm just listening to bloggers, creators, and entrepreneurs to understand what they're really talking about and interested in.Especially since this client is a Shopify theme developer, I'm trying to determine if the market actually wants what they're building—or if it's just a nice idea that nobody asked for.Once I do enough listening, I reach out to these audiences with a basic survey I've created. That survey is designed to surface their pain points.If a majority of respondents don't list monetizing their content as a pain point, for example, then that's a sign we shouldn't be investing in a solution for it.And sometimes people don't even know they have a problem until you talk to them.So first, I help my clients clarify their ICP—if they haven't already. Many clients I've worked with thought they had their ICP nailed, but after talking to customers, they ended up pivoting or refining it.Rachael Bassey (12:13.696)Next, I work with them to define what I call the "Ideal Contributor Profile" too—not just the ideal customer.For example, Kerry, if you were my ideal customer, I'd ask:Where do you live? What's your title? What's your industry? How many employees are at your company? Sometimes, trying to reach a VP at a 5,000-person company is a waste of time. You'll need approval from too many layers, and it's like going to court.So once we define who our ideal contributors are, I use LinkedIn filters—sometimes even certifications (like HubSpot Certified, for instance)—to find highly qualified individuals.It's not just about gathering insights. We want insights from people who can also become customers down the line. That way, the work serves both marketing and sales goals.For example, one client was in influencer marketing. At first, they wanted to gather input from agencies. But I said, “Let's focus on in-house influencer marketing professionals at eCommerce brands—because those are your buyers.”So we shifted our survey strategy. Now, instead of collecting insights just for backlinks or SEO, we're engaging the people who might actually buy the product.That way, when the marketing manager follows up to thank them for contributing, it's not just relationship-building—it's lead generation.We've even had contributors say, “I've been thinking about buying a tool like this—can I get a free trial?” Of course! That's exactly the goal.Kerry Curran, RBMA (17:10.028)No—and you're so right. And you're so smart, because I think we spend—personally, I spend—so much time researching. But to actually start interviewing your target audience, especially those who aren't already customers, is just brilliant.It's not necessarily easy, but it's manageable. Especially if someone like you is guiding the process.Tell us—how can people get in touch with you?Rachael Bassey (27:43.904)Rachael Bassey—not the American spelling! It's R-A-C-H-A-E-L. That's important. And Bassey is B-A-S-S-E-Y.I spend a lot of time on LinkedIn, so that's the best place to find me.I'm currently working on my website: contentcollab.co. Or feel free to email me: rachael@contentcollab.co. That's content and collab—C-O-L-L-A-B—dot co.Kerry Curran, RBMA (28:24.682)Excellent. Thank you, Rachael. I'll put all your contact information in the show notes. And thank you for reaching out on LinkedIn and asking to be on the show—this topic was so actionable.I already know what my takeaways are, and I'm sure our listeners will feel the same way. Thank you again.Rachael Bassey (28:45.22)Thank you so much, Kerry, for having me. This was lovely.Huge thanks to Rachael Bassey for joining us today. Her insights on using original research to create personalized, relevant, and scalable content are exactly what modern marketers need right now.If this episode sparked ideas for how your team can better connect with your audience, share it with a colleague—and don't forget to subscribe and leave a review.For more strategies to connect marketing with revenue, head over to revenuebasedmarketing.com.And please follow me, Kerry Curran, on LinkedIn. We'll see you soon. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

Episode SummaryIn this heartfelt episode, I'm joined by Kylainah Zacharcuk, author of You Can Find Me in Her Shadow: My Sister Has Special Needs and This is My Story. Kylainah opens up about the unique and often complex experience of growing up as the sibling of someone with special needs. We talk about her book, which gives voice to the often-overlooked sibling perspective, and explore the emotional layers that come with love, responsibility, and identity. Kylainah also shares candidly about her own mental health journey. We hear how treatment modalities like Anat Baniel Method NeuroMovement® helped both Kylainah and her sister. Passionate, authentic, and deeply thoughtful, Kylainah brings honesty and heart to this powerful conversation.About KylainahKylainah Zacharcuk currently lives in Southwestern Ontario with her Golden Doodle, Lenny. You Can Find Me in Her Shadow: My Sister Has Special Needs and This is My Story is Kylainah's first novel. In the first week of the book's release, it was on the number-one bestseller list in multiple categories on Amazon Canada. It currently holds five stars and is a recommended must-read.  My book has also been picked up by Barnes & Noble, BAM! Books-A-Million, and Bookshop.org.From This EpisodeGRIN2BBiofeedbackAnat Baniel Method NeuroMovement®Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) Find and Follow Carole and Wisdom Shared:https://www.caroleblueweiss.com/Subscribe to YouTube channelFollow and send a message on FacebookFollow and send a message on LinkedInFollow on InstagramFollow on TikTokFollow on ThreadsThe Wisdom Shared TeamAudio Engineering by Steve Heatherington of Good Podcasting WorksCo-Producer and Marketing Coordinator: Kayla NelsonProduction Assistant: Becki Leigh

ABM falls apart fast when teams jump in before locking down who they're chasing, why it matters, and how it's all supposed to run. Sales pushes one list, marketing builds another, and no one agrees on who actually matters. No shared ICP? No clean data? Well, no chance. You need a strategy. Guest host Jon Russo (B2B Fusion) corrals Heidi Bullock (Tealium), Patti Newcomer (Centerbase), and Bindu Chellappan (Corpay) for a breakdown of how they're keeping their ABM engines running clean. Think pods with purpose, seller-first workflows, and data that matters. In this episode:  Heidi on running pods that bring marketing, sales, and CS into one motion  Patti on aligning across the funnel and why ABM needs ownership  Bindu on activating firmographic and intent data with shared definitions  Plus:  Where alignment really starts  Why trust beats tech every time  How AI is speeding up the grunt work without losing the signal  The metrics that actually tell you it's working Tune in to learn about what breaks ABM, what fixes it, and how to keep teams pulling in the same direction.  For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/

En este programa les tenemos preparados temas muy interesantes ¡No se lo pierdan! 'No podemos quedarnos callados': Convocan a marchar para exigir la anulación de la reforma judicial. 'La banca en México está muy sólida': Emilio Romano, presidente de la ABM. Nombramiento de Hugo López-Gatell ante la OMS: 'Es una falta de respeto del Estado', afirma abogada. Caso maestro Esteban Canchola: 'Es una negligencia evidente', señala abogado. Esto y más aquí con LUIS CARDENAS.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

En entrevista para MVS Noticias con Luis Cárdenas, Emilio Romano Mussali, presidente de la Asociación de Bancos de México (ABM), habla con sobre la posición de la ABM, que descarta que más bancos mexicanos sean acusados de lavado de dinero.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“Visibility in the age of AI isn't just about ranking anymore—it's about being understood, trusted, and retrievable by the machines your buyers now rely on. These engines extract only the most relevant chunks of content to answer the query. And if your message isn't structured clearly or consistent across channels, you risk being invisible.” That's a quote from David Kirkdorffer and a sneak peek at today's episode.Hi there, I'm Kerry Curran, B2B Revenue Growth Executive Advisor, Industry Analyst, and host of Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast. Every episode, I sit down with top experts to bring you actionable strategies that drive real results. If you're serious about growth, hit subscribe to stay ahead of your competition.In The New SEO Frontier: How Marketers Can Win Visibility in the Age of AI, I sit down with David Kirkdorffer. He's a B2B marketing strategist and generative SEO expert. We break down how your content, website, and messaging must evolve to be visible in LLM-powered search. We explore what's changed, what still works, and what's next—so your brand stays front and center no matter which AI engine your buyer turns to.Be sure to stay to the end, where David shares why team alignment across content, SEO, PR, and partnerships is your best defense—and greatest opportunity—in an AI-first future. Let's go.Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:01.422)So, welcome, David. Please introduce yourself and share your background and expertise.David Kirkdorffer (00:07.466)Hi, Kerry, and thank you so much for bringing me on the show. My background: I am a B2B marketer. I've been doing B2B marketing for—let's say—30-plus years. I have focused most of my career on generating leads for sales teams, and that is still my focus, though the way that is done nowadays has certainly changed.I've worked mostly in technology companies, selling technology to technology departments—so IT tech for IT tech consumers. Over the years, that has gone from enterprise accounts, as technologies became more democratized, down to medium-sized businesses and small businesses.So that's briefly about me.Kerry Curran, RBMA (01:00.214)Excellent. David, I know you have been deep into the research around what I'll introduce as the evolution of SEO. Tell me: What are you hearing? What triggered your interest in diving into gaining visibility for brands within the GPTs and other AI engines?David Kirkdorffer (01:25.994)Right. OK, that's a great question. Given my background of trying to get information into buyers' hands—being buyer-centric—a number of years ago I focused on what we might call buyer enablement and the buyer experience: the buyer being successful in finding the information they're looking for on our website. I realized that a lot of the great information buyers want sits behind a gate where you have to speak to a sales rep.The idea I was working with—and many people, of course, not just me—was, “Can we get this information onto our website so that when buyers come, they can find what they need and say, ‘This looks like a good fit'?” Along come these LLMs, and now all of a sudden I'm thinking, “How do I AI-enable training? How do I make sure the AIs have the information that answers buyer questions?”In a way, AI LLM tools are a disintermediating force separating my buyer from my answer. They're turning to the ChatGPTs, the Geminis, the Perplexities, the Claudes, the Copilots, and various other tools—some specialized for particular domains. Our challenge is to make sure our answers are read, understood, and correctly represented within these LLMs so that, when a buyer goes there for an answer, our brand is visible.It's much more effective for a buyer to ask questions with ChatGPT, and you might ask the same question to four or five tools just to validate, because they all have different information sets, models, crawlers, and licensing agreements. Therefore, you may have high visibility in one and low visibility in another. Training data differs; retrieval data differs; the models themselves differ—so they have different “brains,” just like different people. That's what brought me into this: trying to be customer-centric and helping my salespeople so that, when buyers do find information, our brand is there.Kerry Curran, RBMA (04:27.744)That's excellent, David, and it's such a hot topic. I don't think I can go through a few hours of my day without it coming up. I know you've been evangelizing it a lot, which I'm sure generates many questions. What are the main questions people ask you about this capability and opportunity?David Kirkdorffer (04:51.442)Everyone wants to know, “What am I supposed to do? How is this different—is it different?” Two main lines of inquiry emerge. One comes from senior marketing leaders—the CMO or someone at a higher level—who wants to understand what they and their teams can do holistically. The other is very tactical: people approach it from their domain expertise—website, SEO, content—and ask, “What do I do within my lane that makes an impact?”The truth is, it's a bit of both. In my view, it's a holistic problem to solve. You can operate in just one tactical lane—website, SEO, or content—and it will have an impact. When you combine them, the impact is amplified, and it should also involve your PR, partner, and demand-gen teams; their work can help or hurt how your brand is recognized and surfaces in answers. So those two lanes—holistic and tactical—intertwine, and where you start depends on team size and resources.Kerry Curran, RBMA (06:48.354)If the main question is “How do I do this?” what do you think people should be asking first? What's the right starting point?David Kirkdorffer (07:01.140)I think you need a big-picture view of how this is different and what drives it—how GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) actually differs from SEO. It even has many acronyms: generative engine optimization, AI optimization, LLM optimization, and more.Kerry Curran, RBMA (07:38.732)Based on your work, which term do you prefer?David Kirkdorffer (07:44.744)I like “generative engine optimization.” Unfortunately, “GEO” means other things in other domains, which is part of the problem—both technically and from a brand standpoint. When we use shortcuts like acronyms, we know what they mean; the LLM doesn't. It could interpret “MRO,” for example, as any of 50 different things until you spell it out first.Kerry Curran, RBMA (08:24.150)Earlier you said it starts with a mindset. What mindset should people adopt to lean into improving their strategies here?David Kirkdorffer (08:46.292)At the highest level, LLMs and GEO replace the short keyword query box with a large window where users add lots of context. Through vectorization—turning language into math—the LLM finds little chunks of information, the “needles,” rather than presenting a haystack of links. It compares those chunks, validates them against other sources, and synthesizes an answer.We often don't know or care where the answer came from, as long as it's accurate. But that means the LLM isn't reading your whole page; it's reading segments. So this isn't just a technical SEO challenge—it's about the words themselves: how we phrase them, how we make them easy to understand, and how we avoid letting brand personality cloud clarity.Because of “chunking,” answers often come from two or three sentences—maybe 200–300 words—not entire pages. So we need to optimize those chunks.Kerry Curran, RBMA (13:06.506)Before we dive deeper into tactics, explain how these platforms differ from Google's traditional search engines and why that demands a different strategy.David Kirkdorffer (13:41.514)Think of GEO as standing on the shoulders of SEO. If your SEO is weak, the shoulders aren't strong. Some say, “This is just a new kind of SEO,” and there's truth in that. Others think, “We just need to do good marketing,” and that's also true. But with GEO, some shortcuts we've taken—like heavy JavaScript or hidden tab content—now have new impacts because LLMs don't execute JavaScript or click tabs.For example, if your page uses tabs for five benefits, the LLM sees only the first one; it can't click the others. It forces us to reevaluate design choices, because GEO cares about different things.Kerry Curran, RBMA (16:11.054)So SEO is shifting from technical crawlability to a content-first approach—almost back to the early days of SEO. When you talk about chunking content, best practices seem to be resurfacing. What should we consider when writing content now?David Kirkdorffer (17:34.914)The best practice is simply doing what we've always known: write clearly for the reader. LLMs struggle with poetic or highly stylized language; they understand literal, structured information. Our challenge is to provide that clarity without becoming too dry. In the future, LLMs may understand nuance better, but for now, literal clarity wins.Kerry Curran, RBMA (21:09.686)There's still a technical aspect—different from technical SEO a few years ago—like tagging. Why is that more important than ever?David Kirkdorffer (21:09.686)We have semantic tags—H1, H2, H3, etc.—but many treat them as visual elements. You might find an H6 above an H2 because it looks good, but that confuses the LLM. Ideally, one H1 states what the page is about, multiple H2s mark subtopics, H3s detail components, and so on. When that hierarchy is broken, the LLM can't map ideas correctly, and your content may be excluded from answers.Kerry Curran, RBMA (25:57.034)Old is new again: off-site SEO also matters. Why is consistency off-site so critical, and what should brands do?David Kirkdorffer (25:57.034)B2B marketers want their message on as many authoritative sites as possible. A small brand's site may have little traffic, so its signal is weak. Getting listed in directories or partner sites amplifies that signal. In the old days, “brand police” ensured consistent boilerplates—25-, 50-, 100-word descriptions—so customers weren't confused. LLMs work the same way: if they see the same wording consistently, they trust it. When every team tweaks the message, it creates variations that confuse the model, so consistency is key.Kerry Curran, RBMA (30:33.718)This has been super valuable. For listeners who know they need to start right away, what's the most important first step?David Kirkdorffer (30:59.392)First, learn how these systems work. You don't need deep technical knowledge, but understand the impact. If you're in a specific lane—SEO, content, web—still learn the bigger picture so your choices align with the new reality. Then triage: audit where you'll work first based on team size and resources.Gather the whole team—web, SEO, content, PR, demand gen—so everyone hears one story and understands how their actions affect each other. Agencies should know what they can and can't do and set expectations. After learning and auditing, remember this is ongoing, like SEO has always been.Finally, be present where your customers go. Different LLMs rely on different data sources—Reddit, Wikipedia, licensed content—and those arrangements change. Go where your customers already spend time.Kerry Curran, RBMA (36:06.339)Excellent. For folks who want to learn more or bring you in to help their team, how can they reach you?David Kirkdorffer (36:42.518)The best way is through LinkedIn. Search “David Kirkdorffer.” My email is firstname.lastname@gmail.com. I post about these topics and provide training classes—very hands-on and tactical, covering tabs, accordions, LLMS text, schema and chunkability, and more. Feel free to DM or email me.Kerry Curran, RBMA (37:52.238)Perfect. I'll include those links in the show notes. David, thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us today.David Kirkdorffer (38:05.046)Thank you, Kerry, and thank you to the audience. If you've made it this far, that's a compliment. I appreciate it and enjoyed the conversation.Kerry Curran, RBMA (38:15.050)Excellent—thanks!Huge thanks to David Kirkdorffer for joining me on the show. If your brand isn't showing up in AI-generated answers, this conversation is your roadmap to change that. From content structure to message consistency to offsite visibility, David laid out actionable ways to adapt your SEO strategy to this new era of AI-driven buyer behavior. If you found this valuable, share it with your team and hit subscribe so you don't miss the next episode.And for more strategic insights on revenue growth through marketing, head to revenuebasedmarketing.com or follow me, Kerry Curran, on LinkedIn today. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

Struggling with misalignment between your marketing and sales teams? You're not alone. Many organizations face friction when these critical teams operate in silos—leading to missed opportunities, wasted resources, and slower growth.In this webinar, we uncovered actionable strategies to bridge the gap between marketing and sales, ensuring seamless collaboration and revenue growth.

“Digital out-of-home is where attention lives. It's unskippable, brand-safe, and contextually relevant—right when and where people are most engaged. If your brand isn't showing up in high-dwell environments, you're missing a powerful and measurable way to connect.” That's a quote from Peter Schofield, VP of Partnerships at Atmosphere TV, and a sneak peek at today's episode.Hi there, I'm Kerry Curran, B2B Revenue Growth Executive Advisor, Industry Analyst, and host of Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast. Every episode, I sit down with top experts to bring you actionable strategies that drive real results. If you're serious about growth, hit subscribe and stay ahead of your competition today.In The Last Untapped Channel: Driving Precision, Attention, and Revenue with Smart Digital Out-of-Home, I sit down with Peter Schofield. He's the VP of Brand Partnerships at Atmosphere TV. We explore how digital out-of-home advertising has evolved into one of the most targeted, high-impact channels in modern media. From smart targeting and unskippable content to real-world attribution and creative flexibility, Peter breaks down how brands are turning physical spaces into revenue-generating media environments.Be sure to stay tuned until the end, where Peter shares how top brands are using API-powered digital out-of-home to personalize in-the-moment engagement at scale. Let's go!Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:01.698)So welcome, Peter. Please introduce yourself and share your background and expertise.Peter Schofield (00:07.960)Thanks, Kerry. I'm excited to be here today. I'm Peter Schofield, VP of Brand Partnerships with Atmosphere TV. I've been in the marketing and advertising space for the better part of 30 years. I've always been curious about human behavior, social sciences, marketing, and advertising—connecting brands with people and people with people. That always puts you at the front of technology and innovation. So I've always been excited about that, and that's where I've spent most of my adult career.Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:41.112)Excellent, great. I'm excited to dive into your area of expertise. When we first met and dove into Atmosphere TV and your capabilities, I got really excited about the unique aspect of connecting consumers with brands and helping brands with their narrative and storytelling. So, excited to dive in. Talk about out-of-home—what trends are you seeing and hearing today?Peter Schofield (01:18.670)Sure. The out-of-home market, specifically the digital out-of-home market, is certainly thriving. The extraordinary reach, context, and impact of digital out-of-home are literally reshaping consumer engagement. Brands and agencies looking to move the needle are tapping into screens and spaces that have been previously overlooked, undervalued, or underutilized.Peter Schofield (01:48.192)Three key elements that are a consistent part of the narrative—what folks are looking for in their investment—are efficacy, deliverability, and accountability. Out-of-home provides all of those.Kerry Curran, RBMA (01:59.448)Definitely. I think the advent and growth of digital out-of-home really revamped and breathed new life into what we knew as traditional billboards, bus stops, etc. It's very cool to see the evolution and the more advanced targeting capabilities.Peter Schofield (02:26.644)It is sophisticated now. It's not your father's billboards, as they say, right? It's the optimal blend of scale, mass reach, and local precision. Brand-safe channels are really making this a distinguished place to market, for sure.Kerry Curran, RBMA (02:45.142)Yeah. How are you seeing that increased interest in out-of-home as part of the media mix?Peter Schofield (02:51.706)I think folks are recognizing it as a real opportunity to align messaging with not only what people are doing, but why they're doing it. At the neighborhood level, we can connect with what people are doing, how they're feeling, and what they're experiencing in real time—where they live, work, and play. It's inherently location-based and enhanced significantly by contextual targeting. That's where companies like Atmosphere really come into play.Kerry Curran, RBMA (03:26.784)Definitely. There are so many stats that prove the engagement and growth opportunity. I know you had some from eMarketer. Want to dive into those?Peter Schofield (03:40.846)Yes. In 2024, out-of-home revenue in the U.S. was just over $9 billion—a 4.5% increase from 2023. More notably, digital out-of-home, where I focus, represented about 34% or $3 billion of that market, also growing 4.5% year-over-year.Kerry Curran, RBMA (04:30.104)Definitely. With location targeting and dynamic creative, it's a perfect blend of niche targeting and visual storytelling.Peter Schofield (04:56.696)Absolutely. One person described it as, “Out-of-home is where attention lives.” It lets marketers deliver the right message at the right moment—contextually relevant, unskippable, and effective.Kerry Curran, RBMA (05:11.700)Right—and you can't skip an ad when it's in a waiting room or gym. It captures attention in a way digital often can't.Peter Schofield (05:25.230)Exactly. It's never been more measurable, creative, or smarter. The relevance and flexibility are a huge appeal. With tools like audience data, dayparting, mobile IDs, and foot traffic studies, we now provide insights that were previously out of reach in traditional out-of-home.Thanks for tuning in to Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast. If today's episode sparked ideas, gave you new tools, or made you think differently, don't keep it to yourself—share it with your team or your LinkedIn network. And don't forget to subscribe so you never miss a future episode. For more growth insights, visit revenuebasedmarketing.com, and keep pushing the boundaries of what's possible in marketing. See you next time. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody talks with Vincent DeCastro about the intersection of AI and ABM, revealing how advanced tools are improving the scalability of one-to-one and one-to-few account-based strategies. From real-world success stories to actionable insights, Vincent dives deep into the challenges of hyper-personalization and how business teams can leverage AI to streamline efforts while enhancing relationships.Key TakeawaysAI's Role in ABMAI bridges the gap between manual efforts and scalable success, allowing marketers to hyper-personalize their outreach with greater efficiency.Scaling Hyper-PersonalizationAI-powered tools like Humantic AI and Manus help marketers deliver deeply personalized messaging, from emails to team cards.The Foundation of Great ABMVincent emphasizes the importance of relationships over vanity metrics in ABM strategies.AI for TargetingAI tools remove biases in selecting target accounts and deliver data-backed choices for better ABM campaigns.Real-World Success StoryThrough AI-based automation, Vincent's team reduced team card customization efforts from three weeks to two days, enabling global ABM scalability.Quotes“AI isn't just eliminating inefficiencies; it's creating ways for marketers to aspire higher and achieve more.”Best Moments 01:20 Vincent's Journey - Vincent talks about his early days in B2B marketing and his pivot toward ABM nearly nine years ago.07:04 The One-to-One Impact - Vincent shares an inspiring success story about building a CEO relationship that culminated at the Super Bowl.09:52 Scaling ABM with AI - “Without AI, scaling hyper-personalized ABM campaigns globally would take massive resources.”17:46 Hyper-Personalization at Its Best - Vincent reveals how tools like Manus assign tasks to AI agents, creating efficiencies across marketing processes.27:08 - AI's Transformational Role - “AI isn't replacing humans; it's making us better by streamlining the process and letting us focus on strategy.”Tech RecommendationsManus – A dynamic AI tool that automates marketing tasks by delegating them to specific agents, significantly reducing manual effort.Humantic – Great for understanding individual buyer personalities at scale. Provides insights like DISC profiles and how to effectively approach communications.Shout-OutsJason Lewis - Global Business Communications Lead, The Chemours Company — Titanium TechnologiesAbout the GuestVincent DeCastro is the President and Owner/Senior SEO Consultant at The Advanced Business Metrics Agency. With a background in Internet Sales Management at BellSouth/AT&T and Account Executive experience at Thomas Industrial Network, Vincent specializes in SEO, PPC, and web-based content solutions for small and mid-sized companies. Vincent is also knowledgeable in strategy development and training, constantly updating best practices based on algorithm and AdWords updates.Website: abmagency.comConnect with Vincent.

Some performances fade. Others stay with you for decades.Buena Vista Social Club is one of them. It isn't just a musical—it's a masterclass in resonance, memory, and experience.In this episode, we're pulling B2B marketing lessons from that spirit of storytelling with the help of Dan Lowden, Chief Marketing Officer at Blackbird.AI.Together, we explore why content should come first, how honesty builds brand resilience, and what it takes to create live experiences your audience will talk about for years.About our guest, Dan LowdenDan is the CMO at Blackbird.AI and leads the company's strategic marketing efforts, including demand generation and brand leadership. He has over 20 years of strategic experience at the executive level. He has served as CMO at cybersecurity firm HUMAN Security (acquired by Goldman Sachs), named one of the TIME100 Most Influential Companies of 2023. Lowden also served as the CMO at Digital Shadows (acquired by Reliaquest) and, before that, CMO at Invincea (acquired by Sophos) and VP of Marketing at vArmour (acquired by Night Dragon). He has held marketing leadership positions at Wayport (acquired by AT&T), IBM ThinkPad (acquired by Lenovo), NEC Technologies, and Sharp Electronics. Lowden holds an MBA in International Business from Rutgers Graduate School of Management and a Bachelor of Science from Rider University.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Buena Vista Social Club:Content is the foundation—not an afterthought. Even in cybersecurity, content is king. Dan says, “My first hire was a content person. You can have the best ABM strategy or tools, but if you don't have really valuable content, you're not going to get anywhere.” His advice? Lead with education, not asks. Thoughtful reports, relevant use cases, and engaging narratives will earn your audience's attention—and their trust.Honesty builds brand resilience. When it comes to trust, marketing can't cut corners. Especially in high-stakes industries like cybersecurity. Dan says, “There's been a lot of overstatement of things by marketers and salespeople. That's when marketing takes a ding.” Instead, he urges CMOs to stay grounded: deliver real value, communicate with clarity, and show your audience you're in it for the long haul.Live experiences create a lasting impact. If you want your brand to be unforgettable, you need to create moments that move people. “People still come up to us today and say that band and that experience 10-plus years ago—they remember. There's not been anything like that,” Dan says, reflecting on a live concert his team produced. Whether it's a concert, a rooftop dinner, or a one-of-a-kind conference, remarkable experiences turn into word-of-mouth—and brand love that lingers.Quotes*“To me, in marketing—B2B or B2C—it's about creating a relationship, trust, even friendship, a community with your audience.”*"If you treat your customers well, if you serve them well, if you're honest with them… then you have a chance of being very successful as a company.”*“Music is really, really important, really powerful… as a marketer, especially in cybersecurity where there's 5,000 cybersecurity companies, you have to do something different. You have to stand out.”Time Stamps[00:55] Meet Dan Lowden, CMO at Blackbird.AI[03:42] The Magic of Live Theater[06:21] The Role of a CMO in Cybersecurity[10:23] Understanding Narrative Attacks[14:29] The Evolution of Narrative Intelligence[22:36] The Story Behind Buena Vista Social Club[28:31] The Power of Live Music in Marketing[30:33] Creating Remarkable Experiences[39:21] The Importance of Content in Marketing[45:05] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Dan on LinkedInLearn more about Blackbird.AIAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

In this episode, host Matt Tucker, Director of Research at IFMA and Professor of Facility Management, speaks with three facility management students and graduates: Christopher Bourke from The Hague University of Applied Sciences, Daniëlle van't Westeinde from Tilburg University, and Mathias De Roeck, a Fleet and Facility Coordinator in Belgium. They discuss the role of ChatGPT in their education and future careers, noting mixed implementations and the importance of using it as a tool rather than a replacement for critical thinking. They highlight the need for curriculum to include data analytics and proper AI utilization techniques to better prepare students for the evolving industry.This episode is sponsored by ABM! Learn more about ABM here. Connect with Us:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ifmaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/InternationalFacilityManagementAssociation/Twitter: https://twitter.com/IFMAInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/ifma_hq/YouTube: https://youtube.com/ifmaglobalVisit us at https://ifma.org

• Started with the virtues of ʿAbdullāh Ibn Masʿūd (رضي الله عنه) • Covered the narration of Abū Mūsā al-Ashʿarī and Ibn Masʿūd: — “How many people intend good but never reach it” • Highlighted evidence from the Qur'ān and Sunnah showing the completeness of the religion — no need for additions “This day I have perfected for you your religion…” (Sūrah al-Mā'idah 5:3)' • Virtues of the Khulafā' al-Rāshidīn (the four rightly guided caliphs) • Importance of clinging to the understanding of the Salaf al-Ṣāliḥīn • Tafsīr Ibn Kathīr on the verse: — “This is My straight path, so follow it” (al-Anʿām 6:153) • Hadith of the 73 sects and its variations and its different chains - Linked with Ibn Masʿūd's narration: “The Jamāʿah is what conforms with the truth, even if you are alone” • Danger of bid'ah (innovation) and how it is more severe than committing major sins - to the exent that the Prophet ﷺ warned against it even before it appeared. • The importance of Tawheed and the precise wording found in the sunnah and the Quran. Example, Surah Maryam ayah 65 "Lord of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, so worship Him (Alone) and be constant and patient in His worship. Do you know of any who is similar to Him?" • How this verse beautifully encompasses all three categories of Tawḥīd: 1. Tawḥīd al-Rubūbiyyah – “Lord of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them…” 2. Tawḥīd al-Ulūhiyyah – “so worship Him (Alone)…” 3. Tawḥīd al-Asmā' wa'l-Ṣifāt – “Do you know of any who is similar to Him?” (denial of likeness to His names or attributes) • Shaykh ʿAbdullāh Lahmāmī (ḥafiẓahullāh) concluded the lesson by mentioning 20 characteristics that distinguish the people of Sunnah from the groups of misguidance.

Is ABM for B2C marketing viable? Nadia Davis, VP of Marketing at CaliberMind, shares her expertise in designing non-conventional ABM strategies built on MarOps excellence. She explains how to transform failing ABM programs into revenue generators, emphasizing the critical importance of data management before implementing new marketing technologies. Davis offers practical solutions for the "marketing data dumpster fire" that plagues B2B marketers trying to connect marketing activities to sales pipeline.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Should your CMO report to sales? Nadia Davis, VP of Marketing at CaliberMind, debates the organizational structure challenges facing SaaS companies. She argues against placing marketing under revenue leadership, explaining how short-term revenue focus can undermine long-term brand building initiatives. Davis shares insights on transforming failing ABM programs into revenue-generating systems through strategic MarOps excellence and meaningful sales pipeline contributions.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

ABM programs often fail to deliver revenue results. Nadia Davis, VP of Marketing at CaliberMind, shares her expertise in transforming account-based marketing strategies into effective revenue generators. She breaks down the five most critical three-letter acronyms for B2B marketers today—ABM, CRM, MQA, MQL, and CAC—while explaining how to build holistic omni-channel ABM frameworks that contribute meaningfully to sales pipelines.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Is AI ready for end-to-end ABM campaigns? Nadia Davis, VP of Marketing at CaliberMind, shares her expertise in designing non-conventional omnichannel ABM strategies for SMB organizations. She explains why autonomous AI-driven ABM execution remains several years away, highlighting current data integration challenges that would persist even with AI agents. The discussion explores the technical possibilities of using LLMs with custom information "brains" and integration hooks like Zapier to potentially automate targeted account campaigns.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.