Podcasts about ABM

In this episode of The Way We See It, Pastor Alex Bryant discusses what's really at stake in the upcoming elections. He examines the vision of Texas politician James Talarico and the implications of his stated desire to fundamentally change politics in Texas and across America. Alex also highlights important developments in Missouri, where pro-life advocates are working to place measures on the ballot that would protect life and challenge the expansion of abortion. More than ever, voters need to understand what's on the ballot before they step into the voting booth. This episode is a reminder that elections matter, ideas matter, and informed citizens make a difference. #TWWSI, #WhatsOnTheBallot, #JamesTalarico, #ProLife, #Election2026, #FaithAndCulture, #KnowTheIssues, #VoteInformed, #ProtectLife, #PastorAlexBryant, #TheWayWeSeeIt Alex Bryant Ministries is focused on helping people be reconciled to God, then within one's own self, and finally being reconciled to our fellow man in order to become disciples. Connect with us and our resources:    Our books - Let's Start Again & Man UP    More about us Like, subscribe, and share. Partner with ABM to place resources in jails and the inner city for $19 a month at alexbryant.org.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram

In this powerful episode of The Way We See It, Pastor Alex Bryant sits down with Stone Moss from Limitless Church to talk about the incredible growth of a church that launched just three years ago and is already reaching nearly 1,000 people. But this conversation goes far beyond church growth. Stone opens up about the pressures of leadership, the challenges of securing a new building, and a terrifying moment during his wife Maddie's pregnancy with twins when doctors warned they may have to choose between the babies or even her life. Through heartbreak, uncertainty, and fear, Stone shares the miraculous story of how God carried their family through the fire. This is a conversation about faith, obedience, resilience, and trusting God when everything is on the line.

A Practical Guide to Intent-Driven ABM and AI in Healthtech This episode is the final installment in a three-part miniseries on ABM and go-to-market strategy, and it is extremely practical. Host Adam Turinas is joined by guest Rehan Mirza, Chief Growth Officer at Verifiable, a credentialing automation platform that has lived through every stage of the ABM journey, from cold outbound blasting to sophisticated, intent-driven orchestration across a complex enterprise sales motion. Find all of our network podcasts on your favorite podcast platforms and be sure to subscribe and like us. Learn more at www.healthcarenowradio.com/listen/

Outbound has changed. What worked two years ago does not work today, and what works today is not going to work two years from now. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby sits down with Drew Johnson, Senior Director of Business Development at Everflow, to walk through how his team actually picks targets, runs LinkedIn-led outreach, and knows when to pivot off a vertical that has stopped paying out.ㅤDrew runs outbound for a bootstrapped affiliate-tracking platform going up against bigger logos. He calls it David versus Goliath. To compete, his SDRs and AEs lean on LinkedIn over InMail, treat the connection request and the pitch as two separate problems, and build target lists off of verticals where one client win has already started to pop. The conversation gets tactical fast: when to abandon a list of 70 accounts, why the five-minute response window after a connection accept matters, and what to do when the decision-maker keeps ignoring you.ㅤ

Does everyone on your revenue team actually agree on who your ideal customer is? Daniel sits down with Hailey McDonald, the new VP of Revenue Marketing at Sprout Social, on day one of her new role. They get into one of the most expensive mistakes in B2B Marketing: building campaigns before your ICP is truly locked in across every team. Hailey breaks down why most companies are doing ABM in name only, how to tell within five minutes that a team's ICP is broken, and why getting Marketing, sales, CS, and rev ops aligned on a single definition is the foundation everything else is built on. She also explains the difference between ICP and total addressable market, and how pipeline hitting while revenue misses is one of the clearest signals something is off with your targeting. Daniel makes the case that personalization at scale is really just personality at scale, and why the brands that stay consistent with their messaging even under pressure are the ones that win long term. Plus, Hailey's marketing hill she would die on: you can't have demand without brand. If you're looking to actually understand and identify who your audience is, this episode is for you.  Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at https://wrike.com/tmm Follow Hailey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haymcdee/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Richa Pande is a highly accomplished B2B marketing executive specializing in Account-Based Marketing (ABM), customer journey design, and precision targeting. She is currently a driving force behind HP's global commercial and industrial print marketing strategies. Key Highlights of Her Career & Expertise:The "Science" of ABM: Richa is a leading voice in the marketing community regarding the foundational structure of ABM. She advocates that true marketing success isn't about letting sales "fend for themselves," but rather doing the heavy analytical lifting beforehand—filtering firmographics, building rich persona insights, and mapping out tight customer journeys. Customer-Centric Execution: A major pillar of her philosophy is creating "peer-to-peer" environments. She leverages marketing to connect high-value clients with one another and with industry experts, prioritizing relationship-building and direct feedback over traditional, aggressive sales pitches. MarTech & AI Integration: Richa frequently speaks at industry events (like Martechify) on the future of B2B marketing. She focuses heavily on how modern enterprise brands can leverage artificial intelligence, marketing mix modeling, and zero-party data to align marketing and sales teams under unified revenue goals.

This episode is the final installment in a three-part miniseries on ABM and go-to-market strategy, and it is extremely practical. My guest is Rehan Mirza, Chief Growth Officer at Verifiable, a credentialing automation platform that has lived through every stage of the ABM journey, from cold outbound blasting to sophisticated, intent-driven orchestration across a complex enterprise sales motion.Rehan tells the story of how Verifiable evolved its ICP from fast-moving digital health startups to regional health plans with hundreds of thousands of providers, and why that shift forced a complete rethink of how marketing, BDR, and alliances teams operate together. He talks candidly about the early lesson that volume-based outbound erodes trust, especially in healthcare, and how that shaped a completely different philosophy built around delivering value before making an ask.If you are a healthcare technology marketer working through how to make ABM actually function inside your organization, this episode gives you a clear, honest view of what it takes. Rehan has the scars to prove it.Key Topics: "(00:00:00)" Introduction and the Sway Health Podcast of the Year Award"(00:03:00)" Bridging the gap between AI activity and revenue results"(00:05:00)" Defining credentialing and Verifiable's origin story"(00:07:00)" Transitioning from a free proof of concept to a Salesforce-integrated platform"(00:09:00)" Shifting from cold outbound to intent-based lead orchestration"(00:10:00)" Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) evolution: From digital health to major payers"(00:14:00)" Moving up-market and the role of hyper-focus in ABM"(00:15:00)" Rethinking attribution: Why 70 to 80 percent overlap is the goal"(00:18:00)" Moving from pipeline generation to pipeline acceleration"(00:22:00)" The CORE framework: Conversion, Orchestration, Resonance, and Ecosystems"(00:23:00)" Using AI SDRs as a channel rather than a replacement for humans"(00:25:00)" Lessons learned: Why volume-based "spamming" erodes trust in healthcare"(00:28:00)" Closing summary and key takeaways for ABM successIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges.Follow me on LinkedIn.Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

Michel Brébion est directeur associé de Yumens B2B au sein de MV Group, agence basée en Bretagne. Fort de vingt-cinq ans de marketing digital B2B, fondateur de l’Intelligence Marketing Day, et auteur d’un livre publié chez Vuibert dont le titre résume le propos : Ne vends pas, influence. C’est à partir de ce livre que nous avons eu cette conversation, qui porte sur un sujet que je suis depuis longtemps et qui, je dois l’admettre, me touche de près : la fin d’un cycle dans le marketing et la vente B2B, et ce qui vient après. Est-ce que l’influence B2B en 2026 peut vraiment sauver ce marketing qui s’essouffle ? C’est la question que nous avons posée à Michel. Le marketing d’influence sauveur de la vente en B2B en 2026 ? Michel Brébion nous décrit un monde du marketing et de la vente B2B en crise, à force d’avoir trop numérisé et nous propose l’influence comme remède. Cela marchera-t-il ? La fin d’un cycle, ou l’épuisement des recettes Cela fait vingt ans qu’on nous annonce que le digital va tout changer pour la vente B2B. J’ai moi-même participé à cette propagande, de bonne foi. Alors quand Michel m’explique qu’on arrive au bout du cycle, je l’écoute avec attention, parce que ce n’est pas un discours de rupture à visée promotionnelle. C’est un constat de terrain. « On a eu le cycle des années 2000 avec l’automatisation, l’arrivée des plateformes de marketing automation, l’émergence du contenu en B2B, les réseaux sociaux qui se développaient vraiment. Mais à chaque fois, on épuise les solutions à l’extrême. Non seulement est-on en ultra-concurrence sur les marchés, on l’est aussi sur les leviers ». L’attention des décideurs, signal d’alarme Le signe le plus flagrant ? La difficulté croissante à capter l’attention des décideurs. « On n’obtient plus de réponse. On a du mal à émerger dans un marché saturé où tout le monde utilise peu ou prou les mêmes tactiques, parce qu’elles ont fonctionné dans le passé. Cela ne veut pas dire qu’elles ne fonctionnent plus du tout selon Michel. Mais il faut faire autrement. Les propositions commerciales restent sans retour. Les rendez-vous sont de plus en plus difficiles à obtenir. Et quand on les obtient, ce sont des visioconférences de vingt à trente minutes, là où nous avions l’habitude de déjeuners ou de rendez-vous plus longs où l’on créait une véritable intimité avec le client ». Le Covid a achevé ce modèle-là. Il y a aussi un phénomène que Michel pointe avec justesse et qui me rappelle mes années à travailler sur les campagnes Google avec MAPP Digital (qui s’appelait encore Teradata à l’époque). À cette époque, les tarifs des leviers payants étaient déjà partis dans la stratosphère, avec des résultats de plus en plus hypothétiques. Et le bon vieux tunnel de conversion, cet entonnoir qu’on traçait religieusement depuis des décennies, est mort. « Cette équation plus de trafic, plus de leads, plus de clients, elle a vécu. Il faut révolutionner sa manière de pratiquer ». Eh oui, le bon vieil entonnoir des ventes, lui-même une refondation des « sales buckets » de St Elmo Lewis datant de la fin du XIXe siècle. Il est temps de tourner la page et de retourner l’entonnoir. Résultat : on a trop empilé d’outils, trop automatisé, trop produit. Et on s’est retrouvé avec de moins en moins d’efficacité sur chaque levier. La solution, pour Michel, est presque contre-intuitive. Il s’agit de remonter d’un cran, de se remettre au travail stratégique, et d’arrêter de confondre volume et valeur. L’infobésité aggravée par l’IA générative Mais revenons à cette histoire d’infobésité, parce que là encore il y a une impression de déjà-vu. On en parle depuis tellement longtemps que ça ressemble même à un disque rayé. Et j’avais cru comprendre que le sujet du moment, c’était de produire plus avec l’IA, pas moins. Alors où le marketeur doit-il aller ? Michel a une réponse nette. « Quand c’est bien fait, le contenu a encore de la valeur. C’est l’automatisation à outrance qui l’a dégradée. Les résultats Google étaient meilleurs il y a cinq ans qu’aujourd’hui sur beaucoup de requêtes ». L’IA, selon lui, est un accélérateur, pas un producteur de fond (voir mon billet sur ce sujet). Elle permet de décliner des formats, de transformer un contenu maître en vidéos courtes, en synthèse, en posts LinkedIn… Elle permet de toucher sa cible sur des canaux qu’on n’exploitait pas. Mais elle ne remplace pas l’expertise, les cas clients concrets, la personnalisation réelle. « L’IA n’a pas d’exemples concrets. Elle ne personnalise pas une approche. Celui qui utilise l’IA pour écrire à la place d’un expert, c’est la pire des choses. On retombe dans le schéma d’infobésité, tout le monde raconte la même chose, et personne ne s’entend plus ». Ce qu’il appelle le « contenu maître », c’est exactement ce que nous pratiquons sur Visionary Marketing depuis 30 ans. De la substance, des exemples, du vécu, des angles journalistiques originaux. L’IA peut ensuite démultiplier les formats autour de ce socle. Mais le socle lui-même ne peut pas être généré par une machine. Le zéro clic et la bataille des marques Près de six recherches sur dix ne génèrent plus de clics vers un site Web. J’avais écrit un article sur le marketing d’influence B2B il y a déjà six ans (2020), en pointant déjà les limites des approches purement volumétriques. Aujourd’hui, le zéro clic confirme que le trafic n’est plus la bonne mesure. SEO, GEO et la visibilité dans les LLM Michel situe bien la question. Le SEO n’est pas mort, mais il se transforme. Sans un bon référencement organique, pas de GEO (Generative Engine Optimization, c’est-à-dire la visibilité dans les réponses des LLM comme ChatGPT). Et Yumens B2B propose précisément cette double approche. J’avoue, pour ma part, un certain scepticisme sur le GEO : si l’on est cité dans une réponse d’IA sans que personne ne clique sur le lien, on revient exactement au problème précédent. On nous prend notre contenu, on l’affiche, et on garde l’audience. Antimuseum.com sur le tracker de GEO de Ubersuggest. Je ne sais pas si antimuseum.com fera plus de CA grâce à ça. Par contre, ce que je sais c’est que Ubersuggest ne manquera pas d’en faire beaucoup avec ce nouveau gadget. Michel le reconnaît, mais il donne une réponse intéressante. « Le poids du branding va revenir. En B2B, on a un peu oublié la valeur de sa marque au profit des leviers d’acquisition. Il faut la faire réémerger, en termes de crédibilité surtout ». Et avec ça, on voit revenir des formats qu’on croyait révolus : les forums, le style Reddit, les relations publiques, tout ce qui permet à une marque d’être mentionnée de façon organique dans des espaces de discussion. C’est une vraie bataille des marques qui s’annonce, au-delà de la bataille des mots-clés. En sondant les étudiants autour de moi, je constate au contraire une disparition des forums. Les jeunes générations ne savent plus ce que c’est, et j’avoue humblement que je ne les utilise plus non plus. Pourquoi poser une question à une communauté quand on peut avoir une réponse pertinente issue d’une machine ? Forrester, le ghosting et la shortlist invisible Forrester nous dit que 68 % des décisions B2B se font avant tout contact avec un commercial, et que 75 % des acheteurs préfèrent désormais une expérience d’achat sans commerciaux. Autrement dit, on est « ghosté » avant même d’avoir eu la chance de parler à quelqu’un. Qu’est-ce qu’il reste à faire ? La réponse de Michel s’inscrit dans la continuité de l’inbound marketing, mais il pousse beaucoup plus loin. « Ce dont on s’aperçoit, c’est que la part du commercial dans le parcours d’achat se réduit. Il faut donc être meilleur en amont. Mieux éduquer son prospect. Lui faire comprendre les offres, la valeur ajoutée, la solidité de ce qu’on propose. Et surtout lui donner une bonne connaissance des experts de l’entreprise ». Être dans la shortlist avant le premier contact L’enjeu, c’est la shortlist. L’acheteur B2B arrive avec sa liste de choix déjà constituée quand il accepte enfin de parler à un commercial. La question est : comment s’y trouver ? Michel répond sans ambages. « Dans une logique de shortlist, le temps consacré à l’avant-vente se réduit. C’est là qu’il faut être excellent. Les meilleurs commerciaux doivent performer sur un temps très court ». L’ABM, vingt ans et toujours pas généralisé J’ai personnellement initié une logique de retournement de l’entonnoir il y a plus de vingt ans chez un grand opérateur B2B, avec mon ami Bernard Moland. Quand on a vu apparaître le concept de « Flip the Funnel », il y a déjà presque 10 ans, j’ai souri. Mais vingt-cinq ans après l’invention de ce concept, combien d’entreprises ont vraiment sauté le pas sur l’account-based marketing ? Je prêche depuis longtemps sur ce sujet, et la doctrine peine encore à s’imposer dans les organisations. Michel partage ce constat, mais il en explique les raisons avec précision. « L’ABM ne fonctionne que quand les équipes marketing et commerciales construisent l’approche ensemble. Et c’est là que ça coince. Le marketing travaille dans son coin, le commerce aussi. On a du mal à trouver des objectifs communs ». Encore un vieux sujet, un jour prochain, les marketeurs et les vendeurs finiront-ils par se comprendre ? L’événement Intelligence marketing day, dédié à l’influence et au marketing B2B L’alignement marketing-commerce, nerf de la guerre Il faut un directeur général qui tape du poing sur la table et dit : « Vous travaillez ensemble, mon enjeu c’est vingt-cinq clients majeurs à conquérir, je veux une approche coordonnée ! » Quand cet alignement existe, l’ABM produit des résultats spectaculaires. « Quand tu arrives à coordonner la valeur apportée dans la campagne avec l’action commerciale au bon moment, avec les bons arguments, les bonnes démos, alors là, tu fais des étincelles ». La méthode est simple en théorie : identifier cent prospects sur un segment où on est légitime, en avoir quinze déjà en portefeuille, s’appuyer sur des cas clients pour en gagner vingt ou trente de plus. Mais simple ne veut pas dire facile, et les vingt ans d’histoire de cette approche le confirment. La révolution générationnelle, l’autre angle mort 64 % des décideurs B2B sont désormais des milléniaux ou de la génération Z. Michel décrit ainsi ce phénomène. Ces décideurs n’ont pas connu le téléphone fixe. Ils ont grandi avec le smartphone, les applications, les réseaux sociaux. Appeler quelqu’un qui ne les connaît pas leur est culturellement inconfortable, et être appelés l’est encore davantage. Mais la question se pose. N’en fait-on pas un peu trop avec cette histoire de génération ? Les dirigeants plus expérimentés ne sont pas forcément plus accessibles. Quand j’étais directeur digital pendant quinze ans, j’avais une pratique simple : je décrochais le téléphone. Les commerciaux en étaient tellement surpris qu’ils me l’ont souvent rendu en remises. Ce n’est peut-être pas qu’une question d’âge. Michel le concède, mais il soulève un point qui va plus loin. « Chez cette génération, l’ancienneté d’un fournisseur n’est pas un critère de sélection. Ils sont prêts à choisir une start-up qui démarre plutôt qu’un acteur établi depuis trente ans ». Plus qu’une question de génération, c’est peut-être une affaire de référent qui est différent pour ces populations. Des cycles de vente qui s’allongent Point suivant, les cycles de vente s’allongent et cela n’est pas anecdotique. Il s’agit d’une remise en question fondamentale de ce sur quoi beaucoup d’entreprises B2B ont construit leur légitimité. Michel cite des chiffres que j’aurais du mal à contester : 25 % d’allongement des cycles en 2023, jusqu’à 4,4 mois dans le SaaS, parfois dix-huit mois pour des projets stratégiques. Dans un tel contexte, l‘influence B2B ne doit plus être une campagne ponctuelle mais un travail de fond permanent, sur toute la durée du cycle (voir à ce sujet notre cours sur le marketing du bouche-à-oreille WOMM : vismktg.info/cours). « Il faut nourrir le prospect pendant dix-huit mois pour qu’il nous garde dans sa shortlist ». L’influence B2B n’est pas l’influence B2C LinkedIn cartonne avec des stars du selfie aux contenus lifestyle et motivationnels. J’en connais même une qui s’est autoproclamée experte des call centers sans jamais y avoir mis les pieds. C’est assez fort. Ces profils détrônent des experts qui cumulent trente ans d’expérience, simplement parce qu’ils maîtrisent les algorithmes mieux que leur sujet. Je me pose des questions à ce sujet. Est-ce que l’influence B2B est en train de se faire absorber par les codes du B2C ? Est-ce une bonne ou mauvaise nouvelle ? La réponse de Michel est nuancée : « Les réseaux sociaux permettent à un inconnu de devenir connu. Mais en B2B, on est sur des enjeux sérieux, des investissements importants, des questions techniques. Le buzz se démasque rapidement. Les acheteurs B2B ne sont pas dupes ». Il distingue soigneusement l’influence B2C de l’influence B2B. La première fonctionne sur la séduction, l’image, l’algorithme, la seconde repose sur la crédibilité, puis sur l’expertise métier prouvée, le contenu à valeur ajoutée. « En B2B, les vrais influenceurs sont des experts qui ont produit pendant des années du contenu de fond sur leur domaine, ont construit une audience grâce à cette expertise, et monétisent maintenant cette audience. C’est très différent ». La « peoplisation » du marketing d’influence B2B n’est pas non plus un nouveau sujet. Témoin cette image illustrant mon interview avec Bruno Fridlansky en plein dans la crise du Covid en 2021. Mais je ne suis plus certain que ce que veut montrer cette image soit encore totalement vrai. LinkedIn, annuaire des décideurs LinkedIn reste aux yeux de Michel un levier exceptionnel pour le B2B, parce que c’est l’annuaire de tous les décideurs. Et les nouvelles fonctionnalités de la plateforme, notamment pour identifier et cartographier les cercles de décision, le rendent encore plus puissant. Sur ce point je suis d’accord, c’est même à mon avis l’intérêt principal de cette plateforme. Depuis toujours, LinkedIn a été un moyen de mettre des professionnels en relation. Et ça marche, tant que les commerciaux indélicats sont minoritaires. L’employee advocacy : un écosystème, pas un canal Je connais bien ce sujet, pour l’avoir pratiqué il y a une bonne quinzaine d’années chez Orange, sans doute trop tôt. La question que je pose à Michel est celle du piège classique : comment éviter que les collaborateurs ne repostent les mêmes contenus en circuit fermé, sans jamais sortir des cercles d’influence internes de l’entreprise ? « L’influence est un écosystème, pas un canal. C’est une erreur de la traiter comme un canal. C’est une vraie stratégie d’entreprise ». Les ambassadeurs commencent par les dirigeants Pour que ça fonctionne, plusieurs conditions doivent être réunies. Le contenu doit avoir une valeur réelle, être multi-formats, et être parfaitement aligné avec les valeurs de l’entreprise et son niveau de prestation. Ensuite, il faut trouver des ambassadeurs. Et les ambassadeurs commencent par les dirigeants eux-mêmes. « Les décideurs qui peuvent raconter comment ils ont créé l’entreprise, pourquoi ils ont un engagement aussi fort, quels sont leurs autres engagements sur la RSE, sur leur marché. Il faut qu’ils prennent la parole ». Michel pense justement qu’« on ne les voit pas assez ». À partir de ce noyau dur, on construit une équipe d’ambassadeurs alignés, formés, équipés d’outils pour produire et diffuser du contenu de qualité. Les collaborateurs deviennent des canaux de diffusion, à condition que le contenu qu’on leur donne à relayer en vaille vraiment la peine. Le CEO branding, frein culturel franco-français En France, me dit Michel, beaucoup de dirigeants B2B restent réticents à prendre la parole publiquement. « Vivre heureux, vivre caché. On est un peu dans cette idée-là ». Or, c’est une erreur, selon lui. Et il y voit deux bénéfices distincts. Le premier est sociétal : expliquer ce qu’est un entrepreneur, comment il vit, quels défis il relève chaque jour. Le second est purement commercial. « Quand un dirigeant prend la parole, il voit les likes, les fournisseurs lui en parlent, il décroche des clients. Et surtout, quand on parle d’authenticité, c’est typiquement ça : on a besoin de savoir qui se cache derrière l’entreprise. Aujourd’hui, on signe entre des hommes et des femmes, pas entre des entités ». Pour lever le frein, Yumens B2B propose un accompagnement complet : rédaction de contenus, aide à la diffusion, formation à LinkedIn. Le dirigeant n’a pas besoin d’être à l’aise au départ. L’aisance vient avec la pratique et avec les premiers retours concrets. Vendre autrement, pas arrêter de vendre Je termine l’entretien par une question directe : Michel a-t-il, lui, arrêté de vendre ? Sa réponse est sans ambiguïté. « Je vends toujours, mais différemment. Le téléphone existe encore chez nous, on fait des salons. Mais on vend beaucoup par l’influence ». L’Intelligence Marketing Day, l’événement qu’il organise et qui se tient à Rennes le 16 juin et à Lyon le 24 novembre, en est l’illustration. Inviter des prospects, leur faire rencontrer les meilleurs experts, construire de la crédibilité par l’événement lui-même. « L’événement est un levier d’influence et de crédibilité sur son marché ». C’est une approche commerciale qui n’en a pas l’air, et c’est précisément ce qui la rend efficace. Michel conclut sur une citation qu’il attribue à Jeffrey Gitomer, auteur américain spécialisé dans la vente, et qui résume l’ensemble de son propos : « Il faut être connu avant de vendre. C’est plus facile ». Difficile de lui donner tort. Le livre Ne vends pas, influence, publié chez Vuibert, est disponible en librairie et sur Amazon. Pour ceux qui veulent aller plus loin sur l’influence B2B en 2026, l’Intelligence Marketing Day est le lieu où ces questions se discutent entre praticiens, loin des grands-messes du marketing parisien. ACHETER LE LIVRE : « NE VENDS PAS, INFLUENCE ! » Michel Brébion est directeur associé de Yumens B2B (MV Group), expert en stratégies digitales et marketing B2B pour les PME et ETI. Fondateur de l’Intelligence Marketing Day, il est également l’auteur de Ne vends pas, influence, publié chez Vuibert en 2026. Premier groupe indépendant de data et marketing digital en France, MV Group réunit neuf filiales complémentaires, dont Yumens B2B. Basé à Cesson-Sévigné près de Rennes, le groupe accompagne les PME et ETI françaises sur l’ensemble de leurs enjeux digitaux. The post L’influence, sauveur de la vente B2B en 2026 ? appeared first on Marketing and Innovation.

Get the 3 prompts (research + classify, gift ideas, note writer) in my paid newsletter here.---In this episode, I break down the 2-step ABM gifting system you can run on your top 200 accounts. How to find the clue. How to classify the prospect into one of four buckets (Identity, Passion, Milestone, or No Gift). How to pick a gift that maps to the specific niche. And how to write the note that proves the research wasn't AI-generated.--If you're new here, I'm Elric Legloire, founder of Outbound Kitchen. I help B2B SaaS companies between $2M and $50M ARR fix and scale their outbound system. My view: in 2026, productivity is the multiplier to scale outbound teams.Menu:- Why a $300 researched gift is cheaper than the cold email sequence you'd run into a $200K to $1M ARR account- The 4-bucket prospect classification: Identity, Passion, Milestone, No Gift (and why ~70% land in No Gift)- The specificity ladder: vague vs. niche vs. Passion vs. Signature clues, and which two qualify for a gift- Where to find Signature clues: LinkedIn About sections, podcast appearances, keynotes, blogs, book forewords- A worked example on Kyle Norton (CRO at Owner.com). From clue ("former MMA gym co-owner, black belt") to gift (personalized oak belt display from Etsy with his "Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast." quote)- The 5-part note template: research proof, rabbit hole, gift bridge, pitch + proof, soft ask- Why Perplexity beat ChatGPT for clue research this round, and why you should keep benchmarking AI modelsReferenced:- Stevie Case (CRO, Vanta), Quake rocket launcher gift, sent by Brennan- Tom (CMO, Incident.io), signed vinyl gift- Newsletter with the 3 prompts (research + classify, gift ideas, note writer): https://newsletter.outbound.kitchen/p/abm-how-to-gift-your-top-200-accountsChapters(00:00) Why Gifting Works(01:37) ABM Outbound Fit(02:41) Step One Find Clues(03:29) Clue Buckets Framework(04:41) Avoid Creepy Research(05:38) Make Clues Specific(06:55) Where To Research(07:17) Kyle Norton Example(09:51) Decision Tree Choices(10:40) Step Two Gift Ideas(11:56) Personalized Gift Build(13:24) Write The Note(14:58) Note Template--When you're ready⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to work with me? Send me a DM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ---Connect with me⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Most of us have run an event, watched the in-person conversations crackle, then sent the same templated follow-up to everyone on the lead list. The energy disappears the moment marketing hits send. That gap is what Dave Schools set out to close when he started Singulate, and it's what he and Mason Cosby get into on this episode of Scrappy ABM.ㅤDave breaks down why marketing ops keeps becoming the bottleneck on personalization, why data is now a commodity but messaging is not, and what it actually takes to send hyper-segmented email at scale without sounding like AI. He shares the four channels working for Singulate today, the 15% open-rate bump from a single hook rewrite, and the framework his team uses to keep humans in the loop while AI does the heavy lifting.ㅤIf you're a revenue leader running ABM with a limited budget and a database full of underused signals, this conversation gives you a clearer picture of what to do with what you already have.ㅤ

How Sales Leaders Cracked the ABM Code On this episode instead of talking to marketers about account-based marketing, host Adam Turinas sat down with two sales leaders who have built and executed ABM programs from the ground up. They bring sharp, practical views on what it actually takes to make ABM work. His guests are Clint Mooneyham, VP of Sales at Sagility, a healthcare operations company serving payers and providers, and Tony Mancuso, an enterprise sales leader on the growth team at Onymos, a Series A AI startup focused on diagnostic labs and precision medicine. Find all of our network podcasts on your favorite podcast platforms and be sure to subscribe and like us. Learn more at www.healthcarenowradio.com/listen/

This week, I am joined by two guests who have done the real work of building a model that clearly connects marketing to revenue. First, Paula Cobb, VP of Marketing at AvaSure, a private equity-backed virtual care platform. Paula brings over 30 years of healthcare marketing experience and runs what she calls a peanut butter and jelly go-to-market model, where sales, marketing, and customer success are genuinely inseparable. What I find compelling about her perspective is how tightly she has wired marketing into product decisions and the fact that AI tools have essentially become named members of her org chart.My second guest is Alex Esquivel, VP of Marketing at Luma Health. Alex has an unusual background for a marketer. She came up through finance and operations, which gives her an unusually clear-eyed view of why the traditional MQL model was, in her words, doomed from the start. She describes what a genuinely revenue-accountable marketing model looks like in practice, including how she structures account-based motions, why she does not measure MQLs at all, and how she is moving from slow campaign cycles to fast, iterative content that responds to what buyers actually care about.Both conversations offer something different. Paula gives you a vivid inside look at a mature, integrated GTM operation. Alex gives you a sharp, first-principles case for rebuilding from scratch. And at the end of the episode, I come back with five key takeaways from both conversations that I think you will find genuinely useful wherever you are on this journey.If you are a healthtech marketer still working through what modern demand generation actually looks like, this one is worth your full attention.Key Topics:Introduction “(00:00)”The Shift from Lead Volume to Revenue Accountability "(01:00)"The Peanut Butter and Jelly Model at AvaSure "(07:00)"Moving from MQLs to Deep Discovery "(12:00)"Why Customer Success is Part of GTM "(21:00)"AI on the Org Chart "(27:00)"Why Traditional Demand Gen was Doomed "(36:00)"Measuring Stage Three Opportunities "(38:00)"Killing the Traditional Campaign Model "(41:00)"The Power of the Zero-Party Data Field "(53:00)"Hiring for Curiosity Over Skillsets "(59:00)"If you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges.Follow me on LinkedIn.Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

Send us Fan MailOn this episode of the ABM Done Right Podcast, Sloan Newman (North American ABM Leader at NTT Data and author of "The Relationship Revolution) joins Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) to discuss:1. The strategic ICP - Why it's important, how it's different from the traditional ICP,  how Sloan built the strategic ICP for NTT Data, what he looked at to build it,  and how the strategic ICP should inform the ICP?  2. How compensation needs to change  3. Why senior-level marketers need to drive the ABM program?  4. The role that Challenger should play in ABM. 

In this episode of the HR Leaders Podcast On The Road, we sit down with Raúl J. Valentín, EVP & Chief Human Resources Officer at ABM Industries, live from Workhuman Live Orlando 2026, to unpack what it really takes to lead a frontline workforce through constant change, AI transformation, and rising employee expectations.Raúl explains why the future of HR is not about choosing between people and technology, but designing systems where people and AI work together to make work faster, fairer, and more human.He shares how ABM is building resilience across a workforce of more than 100,000 team members by focusing on fairness, recognition, manager capability, and helping employees feel seen, heard, and valued wherever they work.Most importantly, Raúl reveals why HR leaders must stop waiting for perfect answers before taking action, and instead create safe ways to launch, learn, improve, and lead transformation in motion.

In this episode, instead of talking to marketers about account-based marketing, I sat down with two sales leaders who have built and executed ABM programs from the ground up. They bring sharp, practical views on what it actually takes to make ABM work.My first guest is Clint Mooneyham, VP of Sales at Sagility, a healthcare operations company serving payers and providers. Clint brings 15 years in sales, nine of them in healthcare, and his perspective will slow you down before you start, which is exactly the point. He makes the case that most companies launch ABM before they have earned the right to, and that skipping the validation steps at the front end is the single biggest reason these programs fail.My second guest is Tony Mancuso, an enterprise sales leader on the growth team at Onymos, a Series A AI startup focused on diagnostic labs and precision medicine. Tony started with tens of thousands of potential accounts and built, essentially from scratch and with limited startup resources, one of the most disciplined account selection and execution systems I have come across.What struck me about both conversations is how well they complement each other. Clint is asking the question you need to answer before you begin. Tony is showing you how to execute once you have answered it.If you are wrestling with your ABM program, or wondering why a previous attempt did not produce results, this episode is worth your time.Key Topics:"(00:00:00)" Introduction to ABM from a Sales Perspective"(00:03:25)" Theme 1: Is ABM Even Right for You? "(00:05:50)" Validating Strategy with Buyer Intent Data "(00:08:45)" Theme 2: Building a Disciplined Account Selection System "(00:12:10)" Scoring Criteria and Trigger Events "(00:14:50)" Theme 3: Deep Account Research and Intelligence "(00:19:55)" Theme 4: Messaging Outcomes Over Features "(00:23:45)" The Water Cooler Test and Win Themes "(00:25:40)" Theme 5: Alignment, Measurement, and Knowing When to Pivot "(00:31:40)" Closing Summary and Top Five Takeaways If you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges.Follow me on LinkedIn.Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

La ABM asegura que reducir comisiones pagos digitales en combustibles beneficiará al sistema Exportaciones de mercancías alcanzan cifra récord en marzoLeón XIV reconoce martirio de 49 religiosos  durante la Guerra Civil Española  Más información en nuestro podcast#grc

Over the last six months, Health Launchpad has seen inbound meetings grow by 89% year over year, direct and referral traffic increase by 3.6x, and session engagement run 35% longer from AI-sourced visitors. Perhaps most telling, prospects are regularly showing up to first calls already familiar with who we are and what we do, because they found us through ChatGPT or Claude, not through Google or any outbound campaign.In this episode, I sit down with Mark Erwich, our Chief Strategy Officer, to walk through exactly how we got here and what you can do to see similar results.The shift we are responding to is fundamental. AI tools have become the number one source influencing B2B buyer shortlists, ahead of review sites and analyst firms. 94% of B2B buyers now use AI in their purchasing process, and when they do, they get one synthesized answer, not ten links to explore. If AI does not name you in that answer, you are simply not in the deal.Mark breaks down the three-part framework we built around Authority, Relevance, and Readability, and gets specific about the technical and content changes we made on our own site. What surprised us most was the speed. We expected results to take months. In some cases, we were seeing citations within two weeks of making changes.If you are a healthtech marketer who has watched your SEO-driven traffic soften and is wondering what to do about it, this episode gives you both the framework and a concrete action plan you can start on this week.Key Topics Covered:"(00:00:00)" Introduction"(00:01:12)" The recent increase in inbound meetings driven by AI engines"(00:05:00)" Why being on the "day one" shortlist is critical for B2B deals."(00:05:44)" How AI is now the number one source of influence for building buyer shortlists."(00:07:37)" The concept of "zero click" searches"(00:09:23)" Why AI visitors convert at five times the rate of traditional Google traffic."(00:15:32)" The Three Pillars Framework"(00:16:15)" Building Authority: Third party signals, client references, and earned media."(00:18:52)" Building Relevance: Shifting content strategy from keywords to buyer questions."(00:22:21)" Improving Readability: Technical optimization, robots.txt, and LLM text files."(00:30:26)" Health Launchpad's internal results and strategy."(00:37:23)" Action Plan: Diagnostics and steps to take for immediate AI visibility."(00:42:55)" Introduction to the AI Audit service for healthtech companies.Sources Cited in this Episode:95% purchase from day-one vendors - 6sense, 2025 Buyer Experience Report94% of B2B buyers using AI in the purchasing process - 6sense, 2025 Buyer Experience ReportAI chatbots as the number one source influencing shortlist creation - G2 The Answer Economy: How AI Search Is Rewiring B2B Software Buying, March 2026zero-click rates: one-third, 43%, 93% - Semrush 2026AI visitors converting 5x vs Google traffic - Superlines, March 2026Crawler budget claim - Optimize your crawl budget - Google for DevelopersIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges.Follow me on LinkedIn.Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

See the results: https://xgrowth.com.au/reports/abm-pulse/ ABM is evolving fast in APAC, and xGrowth has the data to prove it. In this episode, Shahin Hoda and Alexander Hipwell unpack the findings from xGrowth's latest ABM Pulse benchmark, based on responses from 93 B2B marketers actively running ABM programs across the region. From a dramatic shift away from one-to-few programs to AI quietly expanding the scale of what a single budget can cover, this episode cuts through the noise and tells you exactly what is actually happening with ABM in 2025. If you are making investment decisions or defending the ABM line item to your CFO, this one is for you. Key Topics Why one-to-few ABM dropped from 72% adoption in 2024 to around 38% in 2025, and what that signals about market maturity in APACHow strategic (one-to-one) ABM has held steady at around 50% as organisations focus on protecting and expanding existing customer relationshipsThe AI effect on program scale: why nearly a third of respondents are now running programs targeting 100 or more accounts on the same budgets they used for far fewerABM investment sentiment in 2025: 57% of respondents are holding or growing their ABM budgets, with only 5.2% cuttingWhy inbound is under pressure from zero-click search and LLM-driven traffic drops, and how this is pushing more organisations toward ABM as a primary pipeline channelBudget planning paralysis: why a significant portion of APAC marketing leaders still had not confirmed their 2026 budgets well into Q1, and what that says about market uncertaintyHow to use benchmark data like this as social proof when making the case for ABM investment to a CFO or board Resources & Links xGrowth ABM Pulse Report - download the full benchmark findingsxGrowth - APAC's B2B growth agencyShahin Hoda on LinkedInAlexander Hipwell on LinkedIn Contact & Credits Hosts: Shahin Hoda and Alexander Hipwell Produced by:  Shahin Hoda and Alexander Hipwell Edited by: Alexander Hipwell Music by: Breakmaster Cylinder APAC's B2B Growth Podcast is Presented by xGrowth

Marketing is one of those things companies think they're doing right, but often approach through more tactics, more tools, and more activity instead of alignment, clarity, and systems that actually drive revenue.In this episode of Uncomplicate It, I sit down with Jessica Fewless, ABM pioneer and author, to talk about what it really takes to move from disconnected marketing efforts to a strategy that actually works. Jessica shares how decades in marketing shaped her perspective on what's broken today, from the early days of spreadsheets and lead handoffs to the evolution of account-based marketing. Her experience reframes marketing entirely, not as a series of campaigns, but as a system that must align sales, marketing, and data to perform.Her message is clear: without alignment, even the most sophisticated marketing fails.We talk about why so many organizations generate activity without results, and how the disconnect between teams leads to wasted effort, poor conversion, and constant frustration. Jessica also breaks down why more data isn't the answer, and how most teams misuse it in ways that create more noise instead of better decisions.We also get into the reality behind modern marketing, from the pressure to constantly produce to the overreliance on tools and AI without a solid foundation underneath.We cover:Why marketing often becomes “random acts of activity” without a systemWhat account-based marketing actually solves forThe real reason sales and marketing alignment breaks downWhy targeting everyone leads to weaker resultsHow to define and use an ideal customer profile correctlyWhat it means to treat marketing as a system, not a campaignWhy more data doesn't automatically lead to better outcomesHow teams misuse attribution and metricsThe role of discipline in building effective marketingWhy layering AI on a weak foundation makes things worseTakeaways:Alignment between teams is what drives real resultsMore tactics and tools won't fix a broken foundationClarity on who you're targeting changes everythingData should guide conversations, not just prove valueMarketing works best when it's structured as a systemNot every customer is worth pursuingStrong foundations outperform constant activityAI amplifies whatever system is already in placeIf marketing has ever felt scattered, overcomplicated, or disconnected from actual revenue, this conversation will help you rethink how to approach it with clarity, structure, and intention.Connect with Jessica:LinkedIn — www.linkedin.com/in/jfewless/Follow Us:

This week's episode of The Way We See It serves as a powerful follow-up to last week's conversation on Who Is Discipling the Culture? If culture is shaping the way people think, then the next question is clear: what are those thoughts producing in our lives? Pastor Alex Bryant dives into the biblical truth that as a man thinks in his heart, so is he, unpacking how our thoughts shape our emotions, our actions, our habits, and ultimately our future. From the influence of social media, media, and higher education to the rise of emotionalism, anxiety, and worry, Alex explores how wrong thought patterns can quietly shape identity and behavior. He closes with a practical challenge on how to retrain the mind to think biblically, reject toxic mental loops, and let truth become louder than feelings. This is a timely, practical, and deeply personal conversation about how the way we think is shaping the way we live. #TWWSI #Mindset #ThoughtLife #RenewYourMind #Leadership #Culture #Faith #Anxiety #TruthOverFeelings #TheWayWeSeeIt #PastorAlexBryant Alex Bryant Ministries is focused on helping people be reconciled to God, then within one's own self, and finally being reconciled to our fellow man in order to become disciples. Connect with us and our resources:    Our books - Let's Start Again & Man UP    More about us Like, subscribe, and share. Partner with ABM to place resources in jails and the inner city for $19 a month at alexbryant.org.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram

In this episode, I sit down with two guests who are doing something genuinely different in the world of healthcare events, and they represent two very different moments in the buyer journey.First, Jane Bogue, SVP and Chief Growth Officer at CHIME, gives a refreshingly honest take on how to get real value from a CHIME membership so that tomorrow's HIT buyers view you as partners. She also covers the mistakes that will guarantee you waste your investment. Then I talk with Jeremy Gottlich, Partnerships Lead at Elion Health. Elion is a research and intelligence platform focused on AI and emerging healthcare technology. They run intimate summits built around one very specific design principle: confirmed buying intent. Only health system leaders who are actively evaluating solutions in a specific category get invited, and vendor attendance is capped tightly. Jeremy explains why this model is genuinely different from anything else in the market and why it is resonating at a moment when so many marketing teams are questioning what they are actually getting from big events.I recorded both of these conversations at ViVE, and together they make a compelling case for thinking about your event strategy in a more deliberate way. This episode pairs well with the previous one on making the most of major events like HIMSS and ViVE. Together, they give you a fuller picture of where to invest and what to expect in return.Key Topics:"(00:00)" Introduction and episode setup"(02:55)" Why intimate event communities matter"(05:10)" Jane Bogue on CHIME's role and membership model"(08:15)" Why CHIME is not a pipeline driver"(10:35)" How to engage the CHIME community the right way"(12:25)" Why face-to-face connection still matters"(14:35)" Who should and should not invest in CHIME"(16:10)" Transition to Elion's different event model"(17:40)" Jeremy Gottlich on Elion's platform and mission"(20:25)" What makes an Elion summit different"(23:20)" Confirmed buying intent as the core design principle"(24:50)" Why smaller events are gaining importance"(27:25)" Four practical takeaways for marketersIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges.Follow me on LinkedIn.Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

In this episode of The Way We See It, Pastor Alex Bryant tackles one of the biggest questions shaping our moment: who is discipling the culture? From defining cultural Marxism to unpacking John Ashcroft's framework of stigma and affirmation, Alex breaks down how society shapes behavior through what it rewards and what it condemns. He also explores how labels, identity, and intersectionality are changing the conversation, and why the growing tendency to judge entire groups instead of individuals is reshaping truth, character, and culture in real time. This is a bold, thought-provoking conversation about the forces shaping the way we see it. #TWWSI, #Culture, #Leadership, #CulturalMarxism, #JohnAshcroft, #ErwinLutzer, #StigmaAndAffirmation, #Intersectionality, #PastorAlexBryant, #TheWayWeSeeIt Alex Bryant Ministries is focused on helping people be reconciled to God, then within one's own self, and finally being reconciled to our fellow man in order to become disciples. Connect with us and our resources:    Our books - Let's Start Again & Man UP    More about us Like, subscribe, and share. Partner with ABM to place resources in jails and the inner city for $19 a month at alexbryant.org.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram

We are delighted to welcome Ashleigh Cook, the Chief Marketing Officer of RainFocus, as today's guest. In this episode, Ashleigh focuses on strategy, data, AI, and the aspects of events that must change. Stay tuned to learn how, with the right strategy and data foundation, events can truly become impactful drivers of business growth. Ashleigh's Journey Ashleigh began her career in the research and advisory space at companies such as Gartner and Forrester, where she managed marketing programs and consistently tracked events that drove the strongest growth. She joined RainFocus in 2020, during the pandemic, inspired by its focus on data and personalization. There, she saw firsthand how virtual events expanded reach and accessibility, and how hybrid experiences strengthened engagement. Today, she collaborates with leading brands to develop event strategies that enhance business outcomes. Events Ashleigh believes that events are one of the most effective ways to bring teams together around the customer experience. They help attract new customers, deepen relationships, and build loyalty. She points out that conversion rates from events are consistently strong, making them a powerful channel when used intentionally. Formatting Events The format of an event should always reflect its goal—virtual works well for reaching wider audiences and delivering content at scale. In-person is more impactful for connection and relationship-building. Hybrid offers flexibility, while roadshows are becoming more common to meet audiences where they are. Clear Intent A key message from Ashleigh is to avoid running events just because they happen each year. She encourages organizations to be clear about what they are trying to achieve, and then design the event around that goal. Beyond Attendance Ashleigh explains that event registrations and attendance only tell part of the story. What really matters is how people engage at events, the sessions they attend, who they meet, and how actively they participate throughout the event. Data Ashleigh emphasizes the importance of event data after the event ends. Teams should focus on follow-up, understanding attendee interests, and tracking how those interactions turn into opportunities, accelerated deals, and long-term relationships. Data Strategy Data should be intentional. Instead of simply collecting information habitually, organizations should consider how they will use it across the entire customer journey, from registration to post-event engagement. Personalization With the right data, events can become far more personalized. Attendees can be guided toward sessions, content, and experiences that match their interests, making their time more valuable and increasing engagement. AI AI helps teams save time and work more efficiently. It supports recommendations, workflows, and analyzing feedback, allowing teams to focus less on logistics and more on creating better experiences. The Human Element While AI is powerful, Ashleigh is clear that it cannot replace human connection. The real value of events lies in relationship building, trust, and in-person interactions. An Ongoing Journey Ashleigh encourages people to think beyond one single event. Events should connect to a broader journey, where each interaction builds on the last and helps teams engage more meaningfully over time. Events Are Growing More organizations are investing in events because they offer a real connection in an increasingly digital world. Events cut through the noise and create lasting impact. Learning and Staying Relevant Keeping up with new tools and trends does not have to be overwhelming. Ashleigh recommends learning from peers, joining professional communities, and experimenting with new technologies to build confidence and improve results. Authenticity Matters Authenticity matters. As more content becomes automated, people are becoming more adept at spotting what feels real. Lasting connections and strong brands come from genuine, human interaction. BIO: Ashleigh Cook, Chief Marketing Officer at RainFocus Ashleigh is an accomplished marketing executive with deep expertise in sales, marketing, and product best practices and technology. She is driven by a passion for helping high-growth companies establish and scale marketing functions to deliver an exceptional customer experience that aligns with rapidly changing expectations and technology advancements. Before RainFocus, Ashleigh led marketing teams spanning GTM strategy, demand generation, ABM, client marketing, and operations at SiriusDecisions and Forrester. Ashleigh holds her BSBA in Marketing from the University of Richmond. Outside of work, she enjoys spending time with family, golfing with her husband, being active with her dog, and traveling. Connect with Eric Rozenberg LinkedIn Facebook Instagram Website Listen to The Business of Meetings podcast Subscribe to The Business of Meetings newsletter Connect with Ashleigh Cook On LinkedIn RainFocus  

Big events like HIMSS and VIVE are the biggest single investment for many health tech marketing companies. They serve many needs, but there is always an expectation of a positive ROI from them.In this week's episode, I go deep with two highly experienced and brilliant health tech marketers on their strategies for creating highly engaging events that deliver strong results: Lea Chatham, VP of Marketing at Heidi Health, and Aaron Bours, CMO at Hyro.Lea and Aaron talk candidly about how they set goals before they touch a single tactic, how they decide which events are worth their time and money, and why experiential activations only work when they are genuinely connected to your brand message. They also get into the execution mechanics that most teams skip: the pre-event outreach, the lead capture systems you run during the show, and the follow-up discipline that determines whether an event was actually profitable.They both end up in the same place: in healthtech, especially when you are selling into enterprise health systems, relationships are the one thing that protects you when things get hard. Key Topics Covered"(00:00:00)" -- Introduction"(00:03:00)" -- Theme 1: Start with goals, not tactics"(00:05:00)" -- Theme 2: Event selection discipline"(00:08:00)" -- Theme 3: Experiential as brand expression"(00:12:00)" -- Lea on Heidi Health's branded Uber activation at ViVE"(00:16:00)" -- Theme 4: Creativity within constraint"(00:17:00)" -- Theme 5: Intimate beats massive"(00:20:00)" -- Theme 6: Pre, during, and post"(00:24:00)" -- How Lea scales pre and post-event systems"(00:26:00)" -- Theme 7: Relationships as durable ROI"(00:29:00)" -- Five key takeaways and closing thoughtsIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges.Follow me on LinkedIn.Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

Marketing is easy to understand as a Marketer, duh. But to other departments (like Finance, Ops, Sales, etc.), it can be hard to get them to understand WHY your company needs Marketing.  Enter: Steve Stano, a Marketing leader in the financial services space. Sure, not everyone is a Marketer, but he's here to break down how you can get everyone on board, in the loop, and up to date about what Marketing can do.  What does data have to do with it? Turns out, data should be the reason you do anything. You need the numbers to back it up. And as Marketers, it's our job to paint the picture so others understand why we do things.  Plus, what's smarter ABM? We talk about how account-based marketing tactics are evolving based on buying signals and behavior. Whether you're a Marketer at a large company or at a startup, this is the episode for you.  Wrike brings structure, visibility, and accountability to work, so companies can make better business decisions, improve efficiency, and reduce risk. Learn more at wrike.com/tmm⁠ Follow Steve: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestano/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Is Account-Based Marketing Worth It? (Most Teams Get This Wrong)Most B2B teams jump into ABM without asking the one question that actually matters: should you even be doing it?In this episode, we break down what account-based marketing really is, where it fits in your go-to-market strategy, and why most ABM efforts fail before they even start.We go beyond theory and show you the practical decisions you need to make, including how to define your target list, why deal size changes everything, and why “cataloguing the market” is the missing piece most teams ignore.Tune in and learn:When ABM actually works (and when it doesn't)Why most teams waste money targeting the wrong accountsHow to use cataloguing to stop guessing and start closingIf you're a B2B marketer trying to drive real pipeline, not just activity, this is a must-watch.SUBSCRIBE to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybookSUBSCRIBE to our newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter/GET the latest CONTENT: https://theb2bplaybook.com/00:00 Why Everyone Is Talking About ABM (But Few Get It Right)00:35 The Big Question: Should You Even Do ABM?01:10 Why Most B2B Marketing Still Feels Like “Spray and Pray”01:30 The Hidden Truth: ABM = Disciplined Go-To-Market02:00 Why Weak Targeting Kills Your Positioning02:30 When ABM Actually Makes Sense (And When It Doesn't)03:00 What ABM Really Is (And What It Isn't)04:00 The 3 Decisions You Must Make Before Doing ABM05:00 Step 1: Define Your Objective06:00 Why Most Teams Skip Proper Target Lists07:00 The ICP Trap08:00 When Your TAM Is Too Small for Paid Ads09:00 The Real ABM Filter: Deal Size10:00 Why ABM Fails for Low-Value Products11:00 Step 2: The Missing Piece – Cataloguing12:00 Why Marketing Can't Guess Who's In-Market13:00 The 95/5 Reality14:00 The Contract Problem That Kills Deals15:00 Real Example: Why Campaigns Fail16:00 How Cataloguing Changes Everything17:00 Why Your TAM Might Be Wrong18:00 Step 3: Not Everything Should Be ABM19:00 Running ABM + Broad Marketing Together20:00 Enterprise vs SME21:00 Why Over-Personalised Ads Don't Work22:00 What Actually Works: Real Conversations23:00 The Problem With AI Personalisation24:00 Why Buyers Don't Share Pain Publicly25:00 The Final Answer: Is ABM Worth It?26:00 The 3 Rules for Deciding27:00 Final Takeaways

In this episode of The Way We See It, Pastor Alex Bryant breaks down a powerful conversation between Stephen A. Smith and Anton Daniels on politics and Black culture. Using clips from their full conversation, Alex weighs in on some of the toughest questions facing the Black community today. Why does it often feel like you can only be a Democrat? Why are Black Republicans so often attacked? And what role does the victim mindset play in holding people back? Anton Daniels makes the bold claim that 98% of the struggles in the Black community are self-inflicted wounds, and Stephen A. Smith pushes the conversation into deeper waters. Pastor Alex adds his own perspective on personal responsibility, political identity, and what it takes to move forward with truth and accountability. This is real talk on culture, politics, and the way we see it. #TWWSI, #BlackCulture, #PoliticsAndCulture, #StephenASmith, #AntonDaniels, #VictimMindset, #PersonalResponsibility, #FaithAndCulture, #PastorAlexBryant, #RealTalkLeadership Alex Bryant Ministries is focused on helping people be reconciled to God, then within one's own self, and finally being reconciled to our fellow man in order to become disciples. Connect with us and our resources:    Our books - Let's Start Again & Man UP    More about us Like, subscribe, and share. Partner with ABM to place resources in jails and the inner city for $19 a month at alexbryant.org.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram

Francisco Chamorro, Director of Marketing and Communications at BBSI, explores what it takes to build marketing programs that are both strategically sound and operationally resilient in an environment where tools multiply, budgets tighten, and alignment is everything. Francisco is a seasoned B2B digital strategist with a decade of experience building global demand generation, ABM, and brand awareness programs across industries. The conversation covers a wide range of topics that every B2B marketing leader will recognize as Francisco shares his philosophy on treating internal and external communications with the same discipline because if your internal audience is not bought in, no external campaign will succeed. He breaks down his practical 80/20 operating model for balancing long-term brand building with short-term demand generation, and explains why most MarTech pitfalls come down to two simple mistakes that are entirely avoidable. He also offers candid lessons from his career: fail fast, build for repeatability before scale, and above all, stay curious. What You'll Hear: • Why internal alignment is the true foundation of any successful marketing campaign and why Francisco's rule is simple: if your internal users do not buy in first, it does not matter how good the campaign is • How to apply the same communications framework to both internal and external audiences, using cadence, relevance, and data-driven iteration to keep all stakeholders engaged and informed • The two most common MarTech pitfalls Francisco sees across teams: letting tools drive strategy, and failing to fully utilize the tools already in the stack and how to avoid both before adding anything new • Francisco's 80/20 operating model: spend 80 percent of your time and capacity on the activities that pay the bills and drive long-term growth, and reserve 20 percent for experimentation then promote what works into the 80 and scale it • How to scale ABM programs by building around a single strong core message and then tailoring it by vertical rather than trying to personalize from scratch for every segment • Why content repurposing is not a shortcut but a strategic necessity: give every piece of content the longest possible lifespan by resharing it, because most of your audience will not see it the first time

A lot of healthtech thought leadership is interchangeable. Swap out the logo, change the company name, and much of the time, nobody would notice. In this episode what great thought leadership looks like and how it happens. Adrianna Hosford is the Chief Communications Officer and Head of Marketing at Artera, the AI patient communication platform that just won Best in Class. She came up through corporate reputation at Ketchum, one of the world's premier PR firms, which means she brings a reputational lens to everything, and that changes how you see the problem.We talk about why healthtech's risk-averse culture is directly responsible for the forgettable content flooding every channel, and why that problem is only going to get worse as AI-generated content becomes the norm.Adrianna also shares some genuinely sharp examples from outside healthcare, including the Chase Sapphire launch in the middle of the Occupy Wall Street movement, which is one of the most interesting brand stories I have heard in a long time. And she walks through the three-pillar marketing strategy her team at Artera uses: making the customer the hero, driving the narrative with data, and putting human voices front and center.If you have ever wondered why your brand is not cutting through, or why your thought leadership feels like it lands with a thud, this conversation will give you a clear framework for thinking about it and some practical ways to close the gap.Key Topics Covered:"(00:00)" Introduction"(03:33)" Why most healthtech marketing is interchangeable"(04:20)" The three-level spectrum of thought leadership"(06:22)" Lessons from outside healthcare"(08:58)" Why it is harder for companies selling products to maintain authentic thought leadership"(10:14)" Using a belief system and mission to differentiate software products"(11:30)" The role of thought leadership in Account-Based Marketing"(13:33)" Case Study: Launching Chase Sapphire in 2009"(19:51)" Advice for CMOs "(21:58)" Artera's three pillar strategy"(23:51)" Four key takeaways for healthtech marketers to improve brand presenceIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges.Follow me on LinkedIn.Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

Send us Fan MailDue to the nature of the business, sales cycle time, and how teams buy, when you are in IT services, or you're an integrator, you need to approach ABM differently than if you were a SaaS company. In this podcast episode, Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) and David Myer of Clarify (a 1:1 ABM firm that focuses on getting strategic enterprise accounts to the pipeline while Personal ABM specializes in moving pipeline accounts to revenue) speaks to Marc Fuentes (Head of Commercial for Eclipse Automation about his vision for his upcoming ABM program and how it differs from the past where he ran ABM for SaaS firms. You'll see how Marc plans on engage and win multi-million dollar deals with life sciences/pharma, industrial, and nuclear enterprise accounts within the Fortune 1000 and Nasdaq.   

In this episode of The Way We See It, Pastor Alex Bryant speaks with his friend Derrick McBride about the biggest story in sports right now, the Chicago Bulls' decision to waive Jaden Ivey after his public comments criticizing the NBA's Pride Month messaging from his Christian convictions. (SB Nation) The move has sparked a much bigger conversation around faith, free expression, and what athletes are allowed to say in today's culture. Alex and Derrick dive into the cost of standing on conviction, the cultural pressures surrounding sports, and what this means moving forward. They also hit several other major sports headlines, including Tiger Woods' latest DUI incident, the madness of March Madness, and how NIL money and the transfer portal continue to reshape college athletics. This is a strong conversation on sports, culture, faith, and the price of speaking up. #TWWSI, #SportsAndCulture, #JadenIvey, #FaithInSports, #TigerWoods, #MarchMadness, #NIL, #TransferPortal, #FreeSpeech, #PastorAlexBryant Alex Bryant Ministries is focused on helping people be reconciled to God, then within one's own self, and finally being reconciled to our fellow man in order to become disciples. Connect with us and our resources:    Our books - Let's Start Again & Man UP    More about us Like, subscribe, and share. Partner with ABM to place resources in jails and the inner city for $19 a month at alexbryant.org.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram

Is signal-based selling really the next step in B2B growth, or are most teams still just getting better at managing noise?Sales and marketing teams have more data than ever. They can see site visits, account activity, intent signals, and engagement across a growing stack of tools. But that still leaves a basic problem unsolved: who is actually in-market, what signal matters, and what should your team do next?In this episode of B2B SaaS Marketing Snacks, Stijn Hendrikse sits down with serial entrepreneur and B2B martech builder Mani Iyer to unpack the shift from account-based marketing to person-based, signal-driven selling. They talk through why older ABM approaches often fall short, what changed in the data layer, and how go-to-market teams can turn scattered signals into something sales can actually use.You'll hear how to think about first-party and offsite intent, why human review still matters in AI-assisted outreach, and why high-signal communities like Reddit, Slack, and WhatsApp can still tell you more than a polished dashboard. By the end, you'll have a clearer view of what signal is worth acting on, what noise to ignore, and how to build a sharper GTM motion around real buyer behavior. In this podcast, you'll learn:Critical topics in this episodeWhy ABM stopped being enoughWhere person-level signal changes the gameHow teams rank and act on signalsWhy human review still mattersWhat Reddit and communities revealWhere AI agents may take this nextBy the end, you'll have a clearer view of what signal-based selling really means, where it works, and how to use it without adding more noise to your go-to-market motion.

If you've been following this series on AI and pipeline growth, this is the episode where it all comes together. Over the past five episodes, I've walked through four pillars of an AI-driven pipeline growth framework: signal intelligence, orchestration, execution and acceleration, and governance and learning. In this final episode, I want to help you take action.I know that looking at a framework this size can feel as overwhelming as it does energizing, so I've distilled everything into three practical moves you can start with today. I'll walk you through an honest self-audit using five questions that will tell you exactly where your gaps are, how to identify a quick win you can show results from within 60 to 90 days, and how to start building in a way that compounds over time rather than stalls. There is a companion blog post; you can read it here. This provides the detailed steps in written form.I also give you a preview of a free resource I've been building alongside this series: 30 detailed AI use cases for pipeline growth in healthcare technology, each with a step-by-step workflow and a 30-day pilot plan. You do not need to tackle all 30. You just need to find the two or three that match where you are right now. If you want a clear, actionable path forward on AI and pipeline growth, this episode is worth your time.Key Topics:"(00:00)" - Introduction "(02:27)" - Who this episode is for: the energized and the overwhelmed"(03:30)" - Series recap: the four pillars of AI pipeline growth"(08:26)" - Why trying to do everything at once is the wrong approach"(09:22)" - Move 1: The honest audit, five questions to assess where you stand"(13:00)" - Move 2: How to find your quick win within 60 to 90 days"(15:20)" - Move 3: How to build to compound, connecting pillars into a sequence"(16:50)" - Preview of the 30 AI use cases for pipeline growth resource"(19:44)" - How to use the use case document as a starting point"(20:26)" - Closing thoughtsCheck out the previous episodes in our AI Pipeline Series:The AI Pipeline Growth GapAI and Signal IntelligenceOrchestration – The Decision Layer of AI GrowthAI-Enabled Growth - Execution and AccelerationWhat Does Your AI Know? The Governance Framework for AI-Powered Pipeline GrowthHere is the link to my episode with Nick PanayiAI-First Marketing at ScaleIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges.Follow me on LinkedIn.Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

In this episode of The Way We See It, Pastor Alex Bryant dives into what it really means to be born again. After a viral video from social media influencer Trisha Fenimore, Alex addresses the claim that people are "born this way" and reminds us of a core truth of the gospel, Jesus meets you where you are, but loves you too much to leave you there. That is what being born again is all about, transformation. He also responds to the backlash and speaks directly to those who say they are disappointed in believers who stand on Scripture, offering a clear and compassionate response rooted in truth. This is a real talk conversation about identity, grace, and the life-changing power of Jesus. #TWWSI, #BornAgain, #GospelTruth, #FaithAndCulture, #BiblicalTruth, #StandFirm, #GraceAndTruth, #IdentityInChrist, #PastorAlexBryant #RealTalkFaith Alex Bryant Ministries is focused on helping people be reconciled to God, then within one's own self, and finally being reconciled to our fellow man in order to become disciples. Connect with us and our resources:    Our books - Let's Start Again & Man UP    More about us Like, subscribe, and share. Partner with ABM to place resources in jails and the inner city for $19 a month at alexbryant.org.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram

Brand is one of those words that can clear a room in a B2B company faster than almost anything else. The moment you say it, someone in the C-suite starts thinking about pipeline, not long-term equity. I know that instinct well. But in this episode, I want to make the case, through two genuinely sharp practitioners, that brand is not the soft stuff. It is what makes everything else in your marketing work harder, and how to make your brand an even stronger asset.I have two guests for this episode. I'm joined by Arushi Awasthi, Director of Brand and Communications at Innovaccer, who lays the foundation for why B2B healthtech companies cannot afford to treat it as an afterthought . Then, Rebecca Whaley, Senior Vice President of Marketing at Nordic, shares how to actually revitalize and operationalize your brand inside a complex healthcare organization. Rebecca joined Nordic about six months ago and immediately did something most marketers skip: she commissioned a rigorous, third-party brand study across 300 healthcare executives in multiple markets before touching a single thing. What she found, and what she did about it, is a genuine masterclass in how to revitalize a brand the right way.Between these two conversations, you will come away with a clear framework for thinking about brand as organizational infrastructure, a practical model for auditing where your brand actually stands, and a step-by-step picture of what a disciplined brand revitalization looks like from the inside. If you are wrestling with how to make the case for brand investment, or you have just inherited a brand and are figuring out where to start, this episode is for you.Key Topics Covered:"(00:00:00)" Introductions"(00:01:17)" Why brand is often misunderstood in B2B"(00:03:32)" Arushi Awasthi on brand as the spine of an organization"(00:06:55)" Innovaccer's positioning strategy"(00:09:58)" The role of media relations and customer success stories"(00:11:17)" Rebecca Whaley's approach to brand studies"(00:14:48)" Identifying the nascent brand"(00:16:52)" The Framework: Breaking down brand into perception, visibility, and influence."(00:19:59)" Reclaiming the brand voice"(00:24:29)" Why a rebrand cannot fix a fundamental organizational favorability problem."(00:26:55)" Moving thought leadership from buzzwords to a clear point of view."(00:28:14)" Five key takeaways for healthtech marketersIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges.Follow me on LinkedIn.Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

La 89 Convención Bancaria de la Asociacion de Bancos de México llegó a su fin luego de tres días de pláticas intensas entre instituciones y autoridades financieras del país. Más allá de los cócteles frente al Caribe, el encuentro dejó una hoja de ruta muy clara y ambiciosa para lo que resta del sexenio. Carlos Serrano, economista en jefe de BBVA México; María Ariza, directora general de BIVA; Emilio Romano, presidente de la ABM y Bernardo González, presidente del Consejo de Banco Plata, nos hablan al respecto. En otro tema: La polémica Kalshi–Khamenei: un sitio de predicciones y apuestas que acabó en demanda colectiva.

Las reuniones de banqueros con la 4T no sólo han perdido el glamour, también la capacidad de convocatoria así como la oportunidad de discutir cosas importantes para el sector y para sus clientes.Prefieren mantener un perfil bajo, no quieren que se metan con ellos y por eso la reunión anual de la ABM es más una cita de gerentes que de banqueros reales.Una conversación con Romina Román, columnista de La Silla Rota y periodista de negocios desde hace más de 30 años, especializada en el sector bancario.Visita la sección de Finanzas de El Sol de México para estar al día del contexto económico. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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#339 | Dave is joined by Brandon Redlinger, former VP of Marketing and co-founder of The Forge, for a conversation about how to build an ABM program that works. They cover how to know if your company is ready for ABM, how to select and score target accounts, and why most teams fail by spreading themselves across too many accounts too fast. Brandon also shares the plays that generate real pipeline, how to think about measurement without overcomplicating it, and why ABM and demand gen shouldn't be two separate functions. Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive. Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.Compound Growth Marketing - A full-funnel demand generation agency that helps high-growth cybersecurity, DevOps, and enterprise software companies drive more pipeline through AI SEO, paid media, and go-to-market engineering. Visit compoundgrowthmarketing.com and tell them Dave sent you.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

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In this episode of The Way We See It, Pastor Alex Bryant takes a sobering look at what real authoritarianism actually looks like. When members of the Iranian women's national soccer team refused to sing their national anthem during the Women's Asian Cup, it was not a loud protest. It was silence. But that silence carried enormous risk. These athletes knew that speaking out against the regime could cost them their careers, their freedom, and possibly their lives. As several players sought asylum in Australia, the Iranian government reportedly began pressuring their families back home, threatening relatives and detaining loved ones. One by one, many of the players chose to return to Iran anyway, not because they trusted the regime, but because their families were now in danger. Pastor Alex uses this story to challenge the way Americans casually throw around words like tyranny and fascism. In many parts of the world, dissent is not debated. It is punished. This episode is a powerful reminder that freedom is messy, but it is also precious, and there are people across the globe risking everything just to experience a fraction of it. #TWWSI, #FreedomMatters, #IranProtests, #Authoritarianism, #ValueFreedom, #SpeakTruth, #GlobalPerspective, #PastorAlexBryant, #RealTalkFaith, #TheWayWeSeeIt Alex Bryant Ministries is focused on helping people be reconciled to God, then within one's own self, and finally being reconciled to our fellow man in order to become disciples. Connect with us and our resources:    Our books - Let's Start Again & Man UP    More about us Like, subscribe, and share. Partner with ABM to place resources in jails and the inner city for $19 a month at alexbryant.org.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram

ABM Strategies in Healthcare Marketing Manny introduced Saul Marquez, CEO of Outcomes Rocket, a global digital marketing agency specializing in healthcare, with extensive experience in healthcare sales and marketing. Manny outlined the agenda for the podcast episode, titled "Marketing Strategy in 2026 and Beyond," focusing on account-based marketing (ABM). Saul shared his expertise in ABM, highlighting his research and practical strategies for driving pipeline revenue and sales-marketing alignment in healthcare. The episode was set to be produced as an audio podcast with some video clips, running for 20-30 minutes, depending on the content's relevance. Strategic Marketing for Business Survival Saul, a marketing and sales expert with 20 years of experience in healthcare, discussed the importance of strategic marketing to prevent business failure. He highlighted that 50% of businesses fail within 5 years and 97% within 10 years due to lack of product demand, emphasizing the need for a strategic approach over tactical methods. Saul explained account-based marketing as a collaboration between marketing and sales to target strategic accounts that can generate the most revenue, using the 80-20 principle. Account-Based Marketing Strategy Discussion Saul and Manny discussed the principles and benefits of account-based marketing (ABM), emphasizing its effectiveness in targeting large enterprise clients like healthcare systems and its potential for significant business returns. Saul highlighted that only 17.3% of companies fully map out customer journeys, suggesting better documentation could enhance ROI. Common mistakes in ABM include failing to fully commit to the process and not documenting strategies, with only 28% of organizations documenting their content strategy, according to McKinsey research. Business Strategy Documentation Insights Saul discussed the importance of documenting business strategies, noting that only 28% of businesses have documented strategies, which presents an opportunity for those who do. He emphasized the role of human involvement in marketing strategies, particularly in account-based marketing, and highlighted how AI can both help and hinder these efforts. Manny inquired about Saul's service model, and Saul explained their 3D model, which stands for Discover, Define, and Deliver, and involves a thorough analysis of the client's needs in the initial phase. Strategic Planning Framework Shift Saul explained their business strategy shift from being a "doer" of tasks to focusing on strategic planning through a 3D framework of Discover, Define, and Deliver. He emphasized that the first two phases (Discover and Define) are crucial for setting clear goals and creating a roadmap for scalable growth, rather than simply executing tasks. Saul shared that their company learned this lesson through experience, moving away from the "hamster wheel" of constant task execution without clear direction. Structured Marketing for Client Success Saul shared his experience of significantly improving client success and personal job satisfaction through a structured approach to marketing that treats programs like employees with clear responsibilities and objectives. He explained how a healthcare distribution client transformed their marketing strategy by focusing on either awareness or leads rather than trying to achieve both through social media, and emphasized the importance of holding marketing programs accountable for specific outcomes. LinkedIn Sales Navigator Lead Generation Saul discussed strategies for leveraging LinkedIn Sales Navigator to generate leads and measure awareness, emphasizing the importance of setting clear KPIs and holding programs accountable. He shared success stories from working with clients, including creative marketing approaches like content co-creation and webinars, which led to meaningful business growth. Saul advised focusing on one key goal to drive success and highlighted the importance of determining the price one is willing to pay for achieving their goals. Manny invited listeners to learn more about Saul's work through the website outcomesrocket.com and encouraged them to consider the value of his advice in their own business endeavors.   Coach Manny Email:  Manny@MannyNowak.com Website: http://coachmanny.com/ Phone: 856 364 5867 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mannynowak/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/manny.nowak/

Mastering Ecosystem Growth and AI Transformation Subscribe to our Newsletter:https://theultimatepartner.com/ebook-subscribe/ Check Out UPX:https://theultimatepartner.com/experience/ In this episode, Vince Menzione sits down with Rebecca Jones, Chief Growth Officer of Bridge Partners, to deconstruct the “Power of Three” co-selling model and the shift from AI experimentation to scalable business outcomes. They explore the critical importance of customer-centricity, the role of agentic workflows in solving complex B2B problems, and why the most successful leaders prioritize progress over perfection to show momentum within weeks rather than years. From her background in the financial sector to her experience scaling with industry titans like Microsoft, Rebecca provides a masterclass on navigating the current “tectonic shifts” in technology through strategic alignment and executive commitment. Key Takeaways Bridge Partners focuses on connecting strategy to execution, boasting a 90% referral rate driven by deep expertise in product marketing and partner ecosystems. The market is shifting from mere AI “dabbling” to purposeful applications in MVP and scale, specifically through agentic AI that tackles real business problems. Success in today's landscape requires knowing your underlying value and maintaining an unwavering focus on customer-centricity. The “Power of Three” (Hyperscaler, GSI, and ISV) remains the ultimate design for go-to-market scaling, provided there is a clear joint value proposition. To show immediate momentum, new executives should focus on “quick wins” achievable within six to eight weeks rather than long-term three-year plans. Effective co-selling requires removing blockers like compensation misalignment and securing top-down executive sponsorship across all leadership silos. If you're ready to lead through change, elevate your business, and achieve extraordinary outcomes through the power of partnership—this is your community. https://youtu.be/nClWjCm6S6A At Ultimate Partner® we want leaders like you to join us in the Ultimate Partner Experience – where transformation begins. Key Tags Rebecca Jones, Bridge Partners, Chief Growth Officer, co-selling, Power of Three, Hyperscaler, GSI, ISV, SAP, Microsoft, agentic AI, AI experimentation, pipeline velocity, pre-sales workshops, account-based marketing, ABM on steroids, GTM strategy, executive sponsorship, partnership ecosystems, B2B growth, tech industry trends 2026, Ultimate Partner, Vince Menzione, orchestration, value proposition. Transcript Rebecca Jones Audio Episode [00:00:00] Rebecca Jones: Because most of the agents I’ve seen drop into um, a lot of the areas where you and I can download are features. [00:00:07] Vince Menzione: Yes, [00:00:08] Rebecca Jones: they’re really feature agents. I love where we are ’cause we’re starting to tackle real business problems. [00:00:17] Vince Menzione: We just finished Ultimate Partners Winter Retreat here in beautiful Boca to a sold out crowd. Today I’m joined by Rebecca Jones, the Chief Growth Officer of Bridge Partners for this compelling discussion. Rebecca, welcome to the podcast. [00:00:33] Rebecca Jones: Thank you, Vince. [00:00:34] Vince Menzione: I am so thrilled to have you in Boca in the studio. [00:00:37] Vince Menzione: We’ve been working together now for a couple of years. We [00:00:39] Rebecca Jones: have, [00:00:40] Vince Menzione: and yesterday we were at the Ultimate Partner live executive winter retreat here in Boca. Uh, we’re recording in late February, early March timeframe. And, uh, just it was so thrilling to have everyone in the room yesterday. [00:00:55] Rebecca Jones: Was it? I mean, the energy. [00:00:56] Rebecca Jones: It was amazing. [00:00:57] Vince Menzione: Yeah, [00:00:58] Rebecca Jones: it was amazing. And thank you so much for having me. I mean, Florida’s gorgeous this time of year. It’s nice to get outta Seattle. [00:01:04] Vince Menzione: Well, it’s, it’s always, I, I, we, we love Seattle. Yes, we love, we do love to be in Seattle and especially in the spring, which we’ll be there together. We’ll talk about that in a little bit, but, um. [00:01:14] Vince Menzione: This is our first time actually having an interview. I mean, we’ve had you on stage. Yes. We’ve had Bridge as a part. Bridge Partners has been a partner. It’s ultimate partner. How’s that? And, uh, you’ve led some workshops. You help organizations to be successful and I thought just like to start out like, tell us more about you. [00:01:32] Vince Menzione: Yeah, bridge Partner and your role at Bridge Partners. And, uh, just to frame, to frame the conversation today. [00:01:40] Rebecca Jones: Okay. Of course. So let me tell you a little bit about my background. Um, I’ve been in the technology industry for a few decades now, and I started within the product and go to market, side of the house. [00:01:54] Nice. [00:01:54] Rebecca Jones: And I’ve navigated across a number of functional areas. From product to partner and sales. [00:02:02] Vince Menzione: So product development, [00:02:04] Rebecca Jones: engineering, [00:02:04] Vince Menzione: product marketing. Product marketing. [00:02:05] Rebecca Jones: Product marketing. [00:02:06] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:02:07] Rebecca Jones: Yes. And so when you look back on the areas of where I focus my time, it’s really how do you help customers grow and how do you help companies grow? [00:02:17] Rebecca Jones: Um, and a lot of my background is in B2B. [00:02:20] Vince Menzione: Very cool. [00:02:21] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. [00:02:21] Vince Menzione: And where’d you get your start? [00:02:23] Rebecca Jones: I started actually in the financial sector. [00:02:26] Vince Menzione: Very cool. [00:02:27] Rebecca Jones: Yeah, [00:02:27] Vince Menzione: very cool. That’s, well, that’s a good grounding and [00:02:30] Rebecca Jones: it’s an excellent grounding. And when you look back, and when I look back at what that provided as a foundation, it’s really the economics of a business and how do you help a business and what are the trend lines behind that by industry and and whatnot. [00:02:45] Rebecca Jones: And so I moved from that over to. More agency view, and so the real market facing view and then back inside to really look at how companies develop their products and bring ’em to market. [00:02:56] Vince Menzione: That’s an exciting, well, I think it’s exciting. I hope our listeners and viewers think it’s exciting and I know Bridge Partners because when I was at Microsoft, we worked with Bridge Partners. [00:03:06] Vince Menzione: But for the listeners and viewers that are with us today, maybe a little bit of background about the company and its, and its structure and go to market. [00:03:13] Rebecca Jones: Yeah, of course. So Bridge Partners is almost 20 years old. [00:03:18] Vince Menzione: Wow. [00:03:19] Rebecca Jones: Wow. [00:03:19] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:03:19] Rebecca Jones: Can you believe it? [00:03:20] Vince Menzione: We were newbies when I was working with you. [00:03:22] Rebecca Jones: We, we were newbies and uh, the company was really founded on the principle of how do you connect strategy to execution. [00:03:32] Rebecca Jones: And within that, our first customer was Microsoft. [00:03:36] Vince Menzione: Interesting. [00:03:37] Rebecca Jones: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, and that was an incredible spot to be and an incredible time to be in a company that started to evolve and grow with one of the titans in the industry. And obviously a incredible market leader in the tech industry. [00:03:56] Vince Menzione: Well, and that time 20 years ago, ’cause I was, I was along for that journey. [00:03:59] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. [00:04:00] Vince Menzione: Uh, it was a time of tumultuous change at Microsoft. [00:04:03] Rebecca Jones: Yes. [00:04:04] Vince Menzione: Uh, in fact, we were talking about the, uh, entrepreneur’s dilemma earlier, uh, today, and Microsoft was going through that period where, you know, we, everyone loves Steve Bomber, but there was a time within the organization that it was stuck. [00:04:18] Rebecca Jones: Mm-hmm. [00:04:19] Vince Menzione: And it had to transform as an organization. [00:04:22] Rebecca Jones: A hundred percent. And so when you think about companies like Microsoft, it’s not only what they do, but how they bring that to market. Yep. And uh, so when you think about where Bridge Partners started and having the privilege to be in Microsoft of all places to, um, cut your teeth on you look at where we started and where we’ve grown from there. [00:04:44] Rebecca Jones: Uh, within the tech industry, we’ve worked across, um, multiple hyperscalers. We’ve worked across, uh. Really the top tier tech and telco, those top 100. Yep. And all the household names. And then throughout that, across the partner ecosystem, because you and I both know these companies grow and scale their businesses through the partner ecosystem, and so we’ve been privileged to work across. [00:05:08] Rebecca Jones: Multiple depth and breadth partners in that play. [00:05:12] Vince Menzione: And as an agency, are you more known for project management go to market? Uh, what, what are the areas and focus where the outcomes that you achieve? [00:05:21] Rebecca Jones: Yeah, so we’re known for. Being on the growth side of the house. And how I define that is you find us in marketing, but that center of gravity is in product marketing. [00:05:32] Vince Menzione: Yes. [00:05:32] Rebecca Jones: And then how you scale that through partner ecosystems and then supporting that field or that sales organization. So when you think about those three pillars within the organization, that’s where you’ll find us. [00:05:43] Vince Menzione: And why would I choose Bridge Partners? [00:05:46] Rebecca Jones: Oh, well, um, based on experience. Um, and then when you think about Bridge Partners, it’s not, um, just what we do, but when you take a look at our engagements and background, we’re over 90% referral. [00:06:01] Vince Menzione: Wow. [00:06:02] Rebecca Jones: And so people take us with them and um, what I look at is have we actually moved the needle or driven the customer outcomes? And when you think about the customers that we’ve worked with and the companies in this industry. It’s quite a roster and I don’t take that lightly because if you’re going to help support these companies and help them grow, it’s a testament to how we were able to accomplish that. [00:06:27] Rebecca Jones: Because all these companies have complex enterprise organizations. Their go to market is nuanced and how they want to, and then, um, get and grow. And so these are just a couple of the different ways that we’ve been able to be successful. [00:06:42] Vince Menzione: Fantastic. You know, you’ve done workshops at our events and talked to our community about how to help them achieve their greatest results. [00:06:50] Vince Menzione: What would you say to them? Now we’re living in this time? I, I I, I said this earlier, I don’t want to use the term tectonic shifts, but I’m running out of words to describe how tumultuous this time feels right now to me. [00:07:03] Rebecca Jones: It’s interesting you say that. I was thinking about that. ’cause both you and I have been in the industry for a bit. [00:07:08] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. And, um, there’s some pattern recognition happening right now for me and how I look at the go to market and these, these points in time and the evolution and. This point in time, it is a tectonic shift. But a lot of companies have other, have had to go through these challenges before. If you think about, um, the migration to the cloud and [00:07:33] Vince Menzione: yes, [00:07:33] Rebecca Jones: all of the unlocks that it has, and at the end of the day it’s, it’s shifting and thinking about new business models and it’s shifting and thinking about go to market, but there is. [00:07:43] Rebecca Jones: There are things that ring true no matter where you are. And one of the things I’ve always taken a look at is, do you know your underlying value and relevance in market? And are you being customer centric? That never goes outta style, right? Do [00:07:58] Vince Menzione: you know your value and are you customer centric? That makes a lot of sense, right? [00:08:02] Vince Menzione: Yeah. And do they, what do you do? And, and do they, how do what, how do they answer to that question? [00:08:07] Rebecca Jones: Well, that’s a, that’s a thinking question. Yes. Right? Yes. It takes a minute to think about that. Um, where is your moment of relevance with a customer? [00:08:16] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:08:17] Rebecca Jones: Where is your moment of relevance with a customer? [00:08:19] Rebecca Jones: And when you think about your reason to exist as a business, you have a really defined ICP, an ideal customer profile, and where’s your moment of relevance and. Yes. There’s a lot happening right now, and I think also because of where we sit in the industry and being in the midst of all of these giants with incredible technology to bring to market. [00:08:44] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. We’re, we’re in the front end of this wave or the, the, the tectonic shift that you’re talking about. It’s just, you know, it’s unsettling to a certain degree, but it’s really energetic and it’s. Dynamic and, and there’s so much opportunity out there. So [00:08:59] Vince Menzione: much so, you know, you had me thinking about the $600 billion that’ll be invested this year and just in cloud infrastructure and chips, right? [00:09:08] Vince Menzione: Yeah. So data centers and chips, and talk about that being like kind of creating this wave, this huge tsunami that’s coming for the beaches and, and everything seems to be. Every week there’s a new announcement, and recently it’s been philanthropic and clawed. And yes, uh, the markets are reacting. They’re, um. [00:09:30] Vince Menzione: They’re almost, uh, imploding in some ca in some cases because they’re trying to react the financial analysts, they’re trying to react to what’s happening right now. [00:09:38] Rebecca Jones: It, the investment is massive and it’s, it’s incredible and it’s massive. And over the last year, you saw a lot of experimentation. Yeah. And you saw a lot of dabbling, a lot of, you know, quite. [00:09:52] Rebecca Jones: Frankly, a little bit of concern about is this gonna pay off? [00:09:56] Vince Menzione: Yes. [00:09:57] Rebecca Jones: And when you look at where we are in this chain cycle and this adoption cycle, we’re right at the front end, the early adopters. And so a lot of the work that we’re doing, and where I’m focused on is how do you move from experimentation? To truly having some movement over into MVP and scale. [00:10:18] Rebecca Jones: And so I’ll just harken back to Yeah, [00:10:19] Vince Menzione: please. [00:10:20] Rebecca Jones: That product mindset of when you’re looking at opportunity within the business, there was a lot of, um, there was a lot of pockets of experimentation just for fun. Just for fun. And so when you look across the business, um, and what, what we observed was, um, businesses of all different sizes, experimenting and, and some were just, they’re fun, they’re dabbling, right? [00:10:45] Rebecca Jones: But it, it changed in the second half of last year, people became much more thoughtful, much more purposeful, um, thinking forward about how would this be applied to my business? Yeah, because the question now isn’t. Could we do this? It’s really, should we do this [00:11:03] Vince Menzione: right? And and there was a period of time, I don’t mean to interrupt you, but there was a period of time when we were talking about earlier in in last year, we were talking about halluc hallucinations still. [00:11:13] Vince Menzione: Yes. So there was a lack of confidence on the platform side. Yes. Microsoft had brought out. Uh, it’s copilot solutions early to market. And there was some, uh, pushback from the community saying, we’re not seeing the results of that. Yeah. From the financial community specifically. And then I think what you said is then the second half of the year things started to change. [00:11:35] Vince Menzione: There was greater confidence. The [00:11:36] Rebecca Jones: Yeah, [00:11:37] Vince Menzione: I’d say the models got better. [00:11:38] Rebecca Jones: The models got better. But when you think about innovation, that’s inherent risk, [00:11:43] Vince Menzione: right? [00:11:43] Rebecca Jones: Right. Yes. When, when you’re on an innovation curve, yes, that’s risk. And so you have to look at as any great CFO will tell you diversification innovation. [00:11:56] Rebecca Jones: When you start to look at that market landscape, you’re creating risks. Yes. So they’re investing a lot and they wanna know when the payoff is coming back into the business. Right? Or back into the market. [00:12:08] Vince Menzione: So Rebecca, where is the AI market right now? [00:12:13] Rebecca Jones: Oh, that is a tough and great question, Vince. [00:12:18] Vince Menzione: I mean, we’ve gone through it and I’ll, I’ll kind of frame this for, yes, for, for everyone, at least from my perspective of what’s happened, right? [00:12:24] Vince Menzione: So, uh, September, 2022. Chat, GBT. Yeah. So we get into chat bots or chat bot, chat bot, chat bot, chat bot the first year or so, beginning of last year, 2025. A agentic AI really starts to take hold. It’s, it becomes a new term. In fact, I don’t think we were even using the term agentic AI before the end of 24, beginning of 25. [00:12:47] Vince Menzione: And then agents have really proliferated, um, all of the marketplaces now have agents and people are developing their own agents and so on. And all the tools, like all, all the cloud tools have agent capabilities. And now, um. We’re in 2026 and we’re still in the first quarter. It feels like the agents are starting to rule the world and maybe taking over the world [00:13:10] Rebecca Jones: they might be. [00:13:11] Vince Menzione: Yeah, [00:13:11] Rebecca Jones: right. There is definitely a proliferation of agents and I’m anticipating a lot of consolidation of that. ’cause most of the agents I’ve seen drop into, um. A lot of the areas where you and I can download are features. [00:13:26] Vince Menzione: Yes. [00:13:26] Rebecca Jones: They’re really feature agents and those will get consolidated ’cause the where we are and you ask where we are in the market. [00:13:33] Rebecca Jones: What I love. I love where we are ’cause we’re starting to tackle real business problems. And what I’m observing and what we’re working on is really helping connect back into the business to really start that transformational work. [00:13:48] Vince Menzione: So take us through that. I’d love that. I’d love, give us a scenario or [00:13:51] Rebecca Jones: give us a use case. [00:13:52] Rebecca Jones: Do this. Yeah. I think’s really great scenarios here that I can walk you through. And first and foremost it is, and I’m gonna go back and I talked about specialization in specialty areas. Yes. That’s really important. Um, we talked yesterday during the conference around, um, industry. What industry are you in? [00:14:11] Rebecca Jones: You know, I’m in tech and that’s, that’s, we know that industry, we know those business models really well. That’s extremely important. And then you move within that. And what functions do you know and functions in this, you know, order are the product marketing function, how does that work? [00:14:30] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:14:30] Rebecca Jones: How does that work in an enterprise organization or a sales function or a. [00:14:36] Rebecca Jones: Partner function. And within that, what are all the workflows? How do these teams operate together? And so that’s where that curiosity comes in of not just how you did the work. How is the work orchestrated? [00:14:49] Vince Menzione: Inter orchestration is a huge topic area. [00:14:51] Rebecca Jones: Orchestration is a huge topic. Let’s, let’s go [00:14:53] Vince Menzione: there. [00:14:54] Rebecca Jones: E Exactly. [00:14:55] Rebecca Jones: And that’s where that curiosity, you know, I was talking about pattern recognition comes in how is the work designed? And that becomes. The blueprint for how you start to think about agentic workflows. And if you don’t have a great workflow, you don’t wanna replicate that in an agent, but Exactly. You definitely need to understand that. [00:15:18] Rebecca Jones: And so why don’t I take something that, um, I think will resonate for anyone listening to this podcast, because everyone is probably looking for growth this year and wanting to accelerate [00:15:28] Vince Menzione: Yes. [00:15:29] Rebecca Jones: Sales. Their pre-sales funnel. So if we just take that pre-sales motion and specifically now with where partners might play in that or where, um, technology companies might want to enable their partners better. [00:15:47] Rebecca Jones: When I start to break down a pre-sales function, you have areas within that. Whole workflow that your marketing department might be driving. They might be driving top of the funnel or or demand programs. And then as you move down the funnel, let’s call it mid funnel, that really has opportunities for partner and field sellers to come in and. [00:16:07] Rebecca Jones: You might be seen or observing that your, um, pipeline velocity is not where you want that, right? Mm-hmm. You might be, you know, as they say, stuck. Stuck. [00:16:18] Vince Menzione: Yep. [00:16:19] Rebecca Jones: And so when you start to look at what agents could do within that, I’ll use a real use case, um, around pre-sales workshops. You and I are both familiar with that. [00:16:28] Vince Menzione: We, we are, we were just talking about this last night, in fact, at dinner, about pre pre-sales workshops and how this is still such a vital component, how organizations work together. [00:16:37] Rebecca Jones: Such a vital component, um, for multiple reasons, right? You get to engage directly with the customer. You get to spend time with that customer. [00:16:46] Rebecca Jones: You get to ensure you understand what are their most pressing use cases and really help them design and buy into a solution far before you get to a proposal. And quite frankly, if you do this right. You also have an adoption plan, and then think about it from other functional areas in the organization. [00:17:02] Rebecca Jones: You start to pattern match across those presale workshops. You can start to see the use cases that are most valuable in market and start to put that into your messaging. So you think about presale workshop, it’s just not the activity of having a workshop, but if you could build an agent. To really help design around partners, enabling partners to deliver better presale workshops. [00:17:27] Rebecca Jones: Interesting. And how are you ingesting information that goes into the workshop? How are you helping, um, develop materials and first drafts faster for proposals post? How are you. Data is informing this. What are you collecting and what are you providing, and then what are you delivering? If you take that one simple component in a pre-sales process, you can see where I’m going. [00:17:53] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. All of a sudden, an ecosystem starts to show up around how could you connect better back with product marketing? What are they doing? What could you inform them with, with the data that you’re bringing in? [00:18:03] Vince Menzione: Interesting. [00:18:03] Rebecca Jones: And then what are the. Deterministic pathways outside of that, that you could be informing downstream down to first, first stress faster on proposals. [00:18:13] Rebecca Jones: Are you helping those partners with an adoption plan? The service partners in there. And so that is the designer and the architect of understanding how that workflow comes to life. And then you can really start to think about the outcomes that you wanna drive. And that’s where I love to start the conversations. [00:18:31] Rebecca Jones: That shouldn’t be an afterthought. That should be where you start. [00:18:35] Vince Menzione: So how do you, how do you, how do you start with this? You gave me a great example, but how do you apply this in the business? Like what do you take when you meet with a client to talk about pre-sales workshops as an example? [00:18:47] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. [00:18:47] Vince Menzione: You take a proforma of what a pre-sales workshop would look like. [00:18:51] Vince Menzione: I’m, I’m, I. I might be wrong on this, but you have, like, you, you now have, uh, AI or AI that they go out and pull the data that you would normally ask maybe in some, some, uh, process, uh, information flow process that we grab and, and pull this into the, to the, to the form. The [00:19:10] Rebecca Jones: first question I always ask is, why. [00:19:12] Rebecca Jones: Why is this so important and valuable? I might have an assumption why, based on my experience, but I want the facts, right? I wanna know how they’re measuring it today, so we have a baseline and I wanna understand what their goals are. [00:19:28] Vince Menzione: Okay? [00:19:29] Rebecca Jones: Are they looking to increase revenue? X percentage. Uh, how many deals are they anticipating? [00:19:38] Rebecca Jones: How many presale workshops do they typically deliver through partner a year? Are they looking to scale that? Probably, yes. Are they looking to increase the value that they’re getting into contract post presale workshop? Probably yes. But I want that empirical data. And then I also wanna know where are they storing that? [00:19:57] Rebecca Jones: Where are they sourcing that? And so it, it really. The question and the question set really is understanding the business outcomes and the why. I, I ask a lot of why, and it really helps you frame in what would be the best outcome or the best solution, and then where do you start? Because there’s a lot of appetite for a. [00:20:21] Rebecca Jones: A transformational workflow from A to Z. And that’s a hard place to, [00:20:26] Vince Menzione: it’s hard show momentum. It’s hard. It’s hard, [00:20:27] Rebecca Jones: right? [00:20:27] Vince Menzione: It’s, it’s hard to document your current workflow flows. [00:20:30] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. [00:20:30] Vince Menzione: Let alone come back and do this ally. [00:20:33] Rebecca Jones: Yes. [00:20:34] Vince Menzione: And create the best outcomes. [00:20:36] Rebecca Jones: Yes. [00:20:36] Vince Menzione: So I go back to this and I go, well, what, what creates the best outcomes? [00:20:39] Vince Menzione: Where the customer signs at the dotted line, and then how do you work back from that to the pre-sales workshop? Is that how [00:20:46] Rebecca Jones: you do it? A hundred percent. It’s a hundred percent. And then where do you start? How do you show, um, progress, not perfection. And so in this world, there’s a lot of, um, pressure. To show progress, outcomes, momentum. [00:21:00] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. And these very significant investments that are being made. And so how do you get them to quick wins? And so you know this, for any new executive coming into role, what are your quick wins? Yes. Right? Yes. You need to transform an organization, you need to transform a function. How do you set them up for success? [00:21:19] Rebecca Jones: And that’s always in my mind, that’s always in the mind of. The bridge partners, leaders of how do you set this leader up for success? And it’s that point between strategy and execution. How do you help them show quick wins? And so I broke you down that process. Yep. Of how would you think about in that use case, how to bring that back and help them show quick wins? [00:21:42] Rebecca Jones: Not in six months or a year, but in six weeks to eight weeks. How do you, how do you get them on that journey and then help them build to that next slide. And [00:21:51] Vince Menzione: in fact, that’s how you, you, you’ve made your, your name or your fame in the industry is really coming in and helping some of these executives, especially when they’re newer in role. [00:22:00] Rebecca Jones: Yes. [00:22:00] Vince Menzione: And those of us who’ve been around the Microsoft ecosystem know this well. Like you get asked day one, what’s your plan? The, while the fire, while the fire hose is blowing in your face at a hundred, a hundred miles an hour? Uh, what’s your plan? [00:22:14] Rebecca Jones: What’s your plan? What’s your [00:22:14] Vince Menzione: plan? [00:22:15] Rebecca Jones: What is your plan? [00:22:16] Vince Menzione: Yeah, yeah. [00:22:16] Vince Menzione: And then you have to show some measurable results fairly quickly. [00:22:19] Rebecca Jones: You have to [00:22:20] Vince Menzione: because you’re asked to get up in front of everyone. Yeah. Very soon. [00:22:23] Rebecca Jones: And that’s a blueprint that we have. We have, it’s a quick win. And when you think about all of these organizations that we’ve worked with, um, speed to market is a value signal. [00:22:36] Vince Menzione: Yep. [00:22:36] Rebecca Jones: Right? And that speed and quality. Where are you willing to take the risk? Where are you willing to fail fast? And what outcomes are non-negotiable and what are, and so when you look at that, there’s, there’s conversations that need to be had on. And being able to filter out the noise to get down to what’s really gonna move the needle, um, for our clients and for the executives that we work with. [00:23:06] Rebecca Jones: So they can show momentum and progress quickly. And then we talked a lot about it. We don’t do three year plans, right? We’re gonna help you show progress in months, [00:23:16] Vince Menzione: nice. [00:23:17] Rebecca Jones: And in quarters, right? It’s not, um, 10 years. [00:23:19] Vince Menzione: Can anybody even have a three year plan anymore? [00:23:22] Rebecca Jones: Who’s got one? [00:23:23] Vince Menzione: I’d love to spend some time on co-selling with you. [00:23:25] Vince Menzione: Yeah. Just because I know this was a topic that came up one of our workshops in the Yeah. We hosted, yes. Last year we hosted a session. With another partner. Bridge Partners. [00:23:34] Rebecca Jones: Yes. [00:23:35] Vince Menzione: And you talked about the power of three and I know you’ve published some information about the power of three. I thought maybe we’d talk about that. [00:23:41] Vince Menzione: ’cause I think that is fascinating and it seems very relevant even in yesterday’s conversation. Uh, there was a conversation about another partner, uh, that is looking to build an ecosystem that hasn’t really thought about building out an ecosystem before, as an example. And this, this, I think is some of the work that you do really applies against this. [00:24:01] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. This, I mean, it, it’s a hot topic, right? Yeah. Power of three, which fits under the umbrella of co-sell Yes. And co-selling. And everyone has a slightly different definition, so I’ll define where we play. Good in there. Um, and then I’ll talk to you about the power of three, um, because that’s one of. Um, I’ll call it the scenarios under co-selling. [00:24:23] Rebecca Jones: Yes. And it’s a very popular one. It [00:24:24] Vince Menzione: is pop Well, it is for v various reasons too because, and I’ll just set the context for this. We were used to co-selling being a technology organization and a and a hyperscaler, like a Microsoft. [00:24:37] Rebecca Jones: Yes. [00:24:37] Vince Menzione: Going to do something together and driving direct output or sales. Now we have finally seen where marketplaces, which has become the co-sell engine, have now enabled the channel. [00:24:49] Vince Menzione: Um, the reseller enabled, uh, offers now to now, uh, operate on behalf of, and so at least in that case, that’s three right there. Now, there might be more than just three. We talk about the seven seats of the table, but the power of three is palpable right now. [00:25:04] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. Let me tell you about that concept of the power of three. [00:25:07] Rebecca Jones: ’cause when you think about the classic one [00:25:10] Vince Menzione: yeah, [00:25:10] Rebecca Jones: it’s a hyperscaler. [00:25:11] Vince Menzione: Yep. [00:25:12] Rebecca Jones: A GSI. And then an ISB. [00:25:15] Vince Menzione: Yes. [00:25:15] Rebecca Jones: Right? [00:25:16] Vince Menzione: Yes. [00:25:16] Rebecca Jones: I mean that’s the, that’s the power, the powerful power, the three three, [00:25:19] Vince Menzione: the three giants in the [00:25:20] Rebecca Jones: room. The three giants. Yeah. And that’s rarefied air. [00:25:24] Vince Menzione: It is [00:25:25] Rebecca Jones: very [00:25:26] Vince Menzione: verified air. It’s, [00:25:26] Rebecca Jones: yeah. Right. And, uh, we do, we have a published article on that, um, and running a power three with SAP, uh, and it is, um, it changes the dynamics. [00:25:41] Rebecca Jones: Of how companies are gonna scale and grow in this market, right? [00:25:46] Vince Menzione: Yes. [00:25:46] Rebecca Jones: Because we know, um, that what got you to this point? Is likely not gonna get you to that next stage of growth. And all the conversations around the platform play is the partner ecosystem, right? And I look at the opportunity, not just with the power through, I’m gonna talk to you a little bit more about that story and what we’re doing there and how we’re looking at that. [00:26:12] Rebecca Jones: Um, but it is the ultimate. Design for your go to market. Yeah. When you think about how partners and the various types of partners can help you scale, but you need to know what you need. You absolutely need to know, [00:26:29] Vince Menzione: yeah. [00:26:30] Rebecca Jones: What are you trying to achieve in your go to market and what’s missing? [00:26:34] Vince Menzione: What are the gaps? [00:26:34] Vince Menzione: Gaps? [00:26:35] Rebecca Jones: What are the gaps? Are the gaps before you apply? Yes. The power of three, or I’ll talk to you about a couple other use cases within that. So the power of three. Has long been on everybody’s, you know, can, can we get this done right? Can you pattern match the customer set? I’ll often refer to it as a BM on steroids, account-based marketing and on steroids. [00:26:59] Rebecca Jones: Can you pattern match, um, the, the hyperscaler, let’s just use Microsoft in this scenario, the, the. High potential customers of Microsoft Joint with SAP joint, with A GSI. And the more specialized and specific you get in there, it’s not just any, because think about the size of these, you know, companies. Yeah, right. [00:27:24] Rebecca Jones: Then you start to look at, well, let’s get a little bit more specific on these product sets, these industries, these use cases. And then you start to refine that where you can start to identify your greatest opportunity for growth. So that’s the first stage of that. And it is, you know, we, we think about where is that overlap and where is that opportunity, but how do you activate that? [00:27:51] Vince Menzione: And it’s complex because, uh, as you, as you mentioned those three. Organizations, each of them have different go to markets. [00:27:59] Rebecca Jones: They do, [00:27:59] Vince Menzione: they have different, a different mapping of their geographies and their ideal customer profiles. [00:28:05] Rebecca Jones: Mm-hmm. [00:28:06] Vince Menzione: Um, and they, yeah, and they apply different tactics and selling tactics and channel tactics and so on that you have to layer in or you have to take into account when you build this. [00:28:15] Vince Menzione: And SAP’s a very different go-to market motion than a Microsoft, than a, than a, an EY or any name the GSI percent. Yeah. [00:28:23] Rebecca Jones: And so that is why not only is it, um, complex from a. Sharing and figuring out what data you’re going to share. Yeah. But how do you activate it? How [00:28:35] Vince Menzione: do you activate it? [00:28:36] Rebecca Jones: And uh, and that is what all companies are striving to do. [00:28:41] Rebecca Jones: Who are you gonna go to market with? Yeah. What is your best play in the industry? And so I, you know, while this one. There’s very few companies that are gonna be able to activate directly with the hyperscaler, right? Yes. Uh, Microsoft AWS or Google. Um, but there are ways in which you can apply this strategy no matter the size of your organization. [00:29:05] Rebecca Jones: And so when you think about. The power of three. It could be any combination. You are the designer, you are the decider of who is in your power of three. And when you start to kind of unpack that a little bit, it could be Microsoft, SAPN one ISV, or it could be a combination of complementary I ISVs that unlock a play. [00:29:28] Vince Menzione: Mm-hmm. [00:29:29] Rebecca Jones: Like migration to the cloud. [00:29:31] Vince Menzione: Right. [00:29:31] Rebecca Jones: Like it, it could be [00:29:33] Vince Menzione: backup and recovery. I could rattle off the different types of solutions. Yeah. [00:29:37] Rebecca Jones: What is, where are you seeing the greatest opportunity to scale and what ISVs could come in to help you do that? So when you extract that from the power of three, the classic power of three of Costone, you brought that down to, you know, how do you think about that in the masses of marketplace? [00:29:56] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. Or partners of any size. I like to bring this back to. Where do you believe your greatest opportunity is? Do you have, um, opportunity or weakness in your portfolio, your product set? Could a partner come in and help augment that? Do you have a tech platform and you need a services arm to help extend that? [00:30:19] Rebecca Jones: I I mean the, it it, the world’s your oyster. Yeah. You get to kit this together any way you need and then. The power of bringing these companies together. And you and I both know, and that was much of the conversation yesterday, is, um, the greater goodness of companies coming together Yes. To compliment one another to solve a customer problem. [00:30:39] Vince Menzione: How do you take it from concept to execution? Because to me, that’s. Especially when you’re talking about not just one organization like a micro, you’re working with a Microsoft or an SAP, but you’re layering in three types of organizations and you’re going across different sales motions. How do you get them all? [00:30:58] Vince Menzione: How do you get them all aligned in working together the right way? [00:31:02] Rebecca Jones: Magic. Magic. [00:31:03] Vince Menzione: Okay. [00:31:04] Rebecca Jones: I’m kidding. [00:31:04] Vince Menzione: Call bridge, call Rebecca [00:31:07] Rebecca Jones: Magic. [00:31:07] Vince Menzione: Nine nine nine five five five five. [00:31:09] Rebecca Jones: Let, let, let me, uh, let me talk about that because [00:31:13] Vince Menzione: Yeah, [00:31:13] Rebecca Jones: it’s one, there’s the good work, there’s the good thought work and the strategy of how to ensure you’re, you’re pointing and you’ve got the team lined up, right? [00:31:22] Rebecca Jones: Right. And the players lined up. But activation of that. Oh, [00:31:28] Vince Menzione: massive work. [00:31:29] Rebecca Jones: It’s massive work. Yeah. And it’s not a set it and forget it. [00:31:33] Vince Menzione: Right, [00:31:34] Rebecca Jones: right, [00:31:34] Vince Menzione: right. [00:31:35] Rebecca Jones: And when you think about the alignment, and you talked about we, we’ve got different fiscal year ends and we’ve got different sales and center plans. I will talk about a few things. [00:31:45] Rebecca Jones: One, executive sponsorship, top down. [00:31:48] Vince Menzione: Yep. [00:31:48] Rebecca Jones: Right. Um, ensuring, you know, compensation. You gotta get rid of the blockers and the barriers. [00:31:55] Vince Menzione: Yep. [00:31:56] Rebecca Jones: And you have to make it easy and you have to create that space because it’s really, and I’ll talk to you about some of the platforms and technology behind it, but it’s humans working together. [00:32:07] Rebecca Jones: There’s a lot of power in what we’re able to do now with, um, part tech platforms and with agentic solutions. And how do you automate this and how do you bring more power and visibility? Better than ever and, and more than ever. But at the end of the day, we’re activating teams. Across companies. Yep. To work together to bring this together. [00:32:34] Rebecca Jones: And there are playbooks, um, and any, there’s great playbooks out there, but you need to activate that. [00:32:41] Vince Menzione: You need to activate it. And you, you said you gotta get the executive commitment at the top? [00:32:45] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. [00:32:46] Vince Menzione: Not just at the CEO level, but across the leadership team. That’s right. In every silo. Uh, you’ve gotta get, uh, the organization, you have to get compensation taken care of because those, those can be blockers, those could be real blockers from getting the results you want to get. [00:33:00] Vince Menzione: And then you gotta get activation. [00:33:03] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. [00:33:03] Vince Menzione: Right? [00:33:04] Rebecca Jones: You gotta get activation and you have to be really clear on how you’re gonna activate what’s gonna move the needle. And you have to be ready to test, learn, optimize, and you need to put those into sprints. So I’ll give some examples around that. [00:33:20] Vince Menzione: Please do take us through the sprints. [00:33:21] Vince Menzione: ’cause this is, this is getting beyond the theory now. This is what I really wanted to capture with you. Take us through it. [00:33:28] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. [00:33:28] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:33:29] Rebecca Jones: So let’s just say we’ve got, we’ve got a power of three. [00:33:32] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:33:32] Rebecca Jones: You know, um, ready to roll and, and we’ve picked our industry and we have our use case. Um, between the three of us, the three players, you’re gonna start by allowing someone, and in this case it’s been Bridge Partners to really ensure we have a joint value prop, um, proposition for that end customer. [00:33:54] Rebecca Jones: Mm-hmm. And, you know, you gotta take a little ego out of the room. Typically on the power of three, you’ve got the leading companies coming in. But at the end of the day, if you’ve done this right, it’s, it’s customer first. It’s what’s gonna help solve this customer pain point in that language. And then when you think about activation, it’s who’s, who’s in role first? [00:34:20] Rebecca Jones: Right. And who’s taking point in these customer conversations. Right. Okay. And that is really, really, that’s important. Important. That is important. Who has the relationship? Yeah. Who is going to take lead and who’s gonna follow? And it gets all the way down to whose paper. Is this on? And that’s, that’s sometimes hard. [00:34:41] Rebecca Jones: You’ve got three players in the room, but it’s incredibly important to have those conversations and ensure that this is really end state for the customer. Yeah. So really going through roles and responsibilities and how are we gonna architect this for the customer’s success. Yeah. So that is a critical component of the playbook and then understanding. [00:35:02] Rebecca Jones: Where and what programs are we gonna drive, and then who’s taking what actions. And so I, I mentioned a BM on steroids a little before. Yes. There’s amazing things that you can be doing in market, [00:35:14] Vince Menzione: account-based marketing, [00:35:15] Rebecca Jones: m account-based based marketing, you dunno. Um, account-based marketing and there are some amazing things. [00:35:20] Rebecca Jones: Really truly connected sales and marketing, in this case. Connected sales, marketing and partner. Yeah. And how do you activate these partners together? [00:35:27] Vince Menzione: You used the term part tech, which. Not everyone understands partner technologies. Yes. Organizations like Partner Tap, work Span. Yeah. Tackle. [00:35:37] Rebecca Jones: Structured. Yeah. [00:35:38] Vince Menzione: Structured. If you, these are companies that help with co-selling methodologies, marketplace methodologies. [00:35:44] Rebecca Jones: Yes. [00:35:45] Vince Menzione: Or combining all of those, [00:35:46] Rebecca Jones: if you know, uh, J McBain, uh. Beautiful visual flat map of, um, it looks a little, the 28 moments. Yes. I was just, well, the 28 moments and he’s got the part tech landscape. [00:35:59] Vince Menzione: Oh, [00:35:59] Rebecca Jones: the islands. The islands. [00:36:00] Vince Menzione: Yes. The islands. [00:36:00] Rebecca Jones: Yes, we got it. But there are part tech solutions that support [00:36:03] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:36:03] Rebecca Jones: Partner programs, co-sell programs, partner marketing, you know. Yes. And really help to automate a lot of those processes. [00:36:11] Vince Menzione: Yes. [00:36:12] Rebecca Jones: Um, and a lot of those programs. [00:36:13] Vince Menzione: So Rebecca is such a great conversation today. [00:36:16] Vince Menzione: I mean, we can go. Thank you so deep on this. [00:36:18] Rebecca Jones: I know. [00:36:18] Vince Menzione: Which means that we’re all gonna have to be back together in Redmond. You live in the Seattle area? I do. And you’ll be with us. Um, we’ll be hosting the Ultimate Partner, live in, uh, may, May 11th to the 13th. If you’re marking your calendar as listeners and friends, uh, and you’ll be there and. [00:36:36] Vince Menzione: Probably driving some more of this conversation in a workshop format, I hope. [00:36:41] Rebecca Jones: I hope so too. Yeah, it was really rewarding last year. I mean, there’s nothing more powerful to be in the room with partners because the partners are frontline to customers. [00:36:51] Vince Menzione: Yes. [00:36:51] Rebecca Jones: And understanding what they’re seeing and hearing. [00:36:53] Rebecca Jones: And I always think voice of the customer is your ultimate signal. Yeah. So I can’t wait to be there. [00:36:58] Vince Menzione: Very cool. And I have a favorite question I ask all of my guests now. Uh, it is a favorite of mine. You are hosting a dinner party and you can choose where in the world you wanna host this dinner party, and you can invite only three guests, though from the present or the past to this amazing dinner party. [00:37:18] Vince Menzione: Whom would you invite Rebecca and why? And why? [00:37:22] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. Yeah. I’d, um, this is such a great question. I think on every single day I’d have a different collection of folks that I’d want at my home. Uh, I’ve had dinner at some amazing places for me. I would love to host this at my home. [00:37:38] Vince Menzione: Very cool, very [00:37:39] Rebecca Jones: cool. Uh, and the people that I would want there for this particular dinner party, I’m gonna pick, um, three iconic women. [00:37:51] Rebecca Jones: Coco Chanel, [00:37:52] Vince Menzione: Coco Chanel very cool [00:37:54] Rebecca Jones: designer. [00:37:55] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:37:56] Rebecca Jones: Um, really changed how women thought about an identity and wardrobe. Um, I would invite Georgia O’Keefe. Wow. She’s my favorite artist. [00:38:07] Vince Menzione: Yeah. [00:38:08] Rebecca Jones: Um, she is one of my favorite artists. Uh, I’m, uh, art and history background. And, uh, [00:38:16] Vince Menzione: that explains, [00:38:17] Rebecca Jones: that, explains that, um, a really interesting perspective. [00:38:22] Rebecca Jones: I love her view on landscapes and. She, [00:38:26] Vince Menzione: that’s why I know her as, you know, landscapes [00:38:28] Rebecca Jones: a landscape artist, um, and much more behind that. And then I would bring one of my favorite authors in, who’s Tony Morrison? [00:38:36] Vince Menzione: Tony [00:38:37] Rebecca Jones: Morrison. [00:38:38] Vince Menzione: I don’t know Tony Morrison. [00:38:39] Rebecca Jones: Oh, um, I would, beloved is her book and Oh, yes. When you think about. [00:38:45] Rebecca Jones: Um, and this is really my passion, my background in art and literature and design, and to have three, three women there, that voice of Tony Morrison, you’ve put that book on your list. Okay. It, it, it changed my life. Uh, and, um, Coco Chanel and, um, Giorgio O’Keefe, I think it would be a really interesting conversation. [00:39:07] Rebecca Jones: I love very cool trailblazers, women who really helped. I don’t know how much they recognize how much they really changed the narrative for other women, um, in their fields and together. But I think it’d be a really fun evening. [00:39:23] Vince Menzione: Very different. Very different. Uh, I was, I know a little bit about Cocoa Chanel ’cause my mom was always in the beauty and fashion industry. [00:39:31] Vince Menzione: So as a kid growing up, I mean her shoe was iconic. [00:39:34] Rebecca Jones: Yeah. [00:39:34] Vince Menzione: Iconic. Chanels an iconic brand was iconic. And, and she was a, wasn’t she a survivor of the. Of, uh, Nazi Germany maybe or something. There’s some, there’s some background or there’s [00:39:44] Rebecca Jones: some background. Flee. Flee [00:39:45] Vince Menzione: Nazi Germany [00:39:46] Rebecca Jones: or something. And what she’s really known for is, um, well many things, but yes, as a designer, really changing the tone and temperature Yes. [00:39:56] Rebecca Jones: Of um. How, you know, fashion and female identity. I think she, um, created the, what everybody knows is the little black dress and really got all that more structured and more modern look and feel of how to, how to wear and just really created a powerful path. [00:40:14] Vince Menzione: Very cool. Yeah. Very cool. [00:40:15] Rebecca Jones: So that’s who I’d have it, this one. [00:40:16] Vince Menzione: That will be a funer. [00:40:17] Rebecca Jones: Next time I’m on your podcast, I’d have a whole new crew. [00:40:21] Vince Menzione: Okay. Well I might. Bring dessert. If you don’t mind, I might bring a little, maybe a little chocolates I think maybe might be very appropriate would for this group and just maybe pop in for a few minutes. [00:40:29] Rebecca Jones: That would be great. [00:40:30] Vince Menzione: Because I don’t wanna inter interrupt the flow my, because this is be a great conversation. Oh my, [00:40:33] no, [00:40:33] Rebecca Jones: you would, I think you’d have a ball. [00:40:34] Vince Menzione: Okay. I, [00:40:35] Rebecca Jones: I mean, I know how close you were to your mother. [00:40:37] Vince Menzione: I am. [00:40:37] Rebecca Jones: And so, yeah. [00:40:39] Vince Menzione: So, um, this isn’t, again, I use this tumultuous term, but we are living in interesting times right now. [00:40:47] Rebecca Jones: We are. [00:40:47] Vince Menzione: And for all of our viewers and listeners. What is your advice to them? What is the one thing you would say? We’re in the first quarter of 2026. Yeah. This ball is moving fast or this puck is moving fast. Yeah. If you were a hockey player, um, what would you say to us now? What, what, what is the one thing you would go do if you’re not doing it now that you should be doing? [00:41:11] Rebecca Jones: Take a moment. Take a moment. As leaders. Your company and your organizations are looking for clarity. They’re looking for a path forward, and there’s a lot of energy out there, which is very exciting, but it can be also very distracting. [00:41:30] Vince Menzione: Yes. [00:41:31] Rebecca Jones: So hold some confidence and clarity for your organization and figure out where you need to be and where you’re going. [00:41:39] Rebecca Jones: That’ll help set your strategy, and this will all come into view. And so what I look to is how do we help enable the organization to grow? And by doing that, you ha you have to put the oxygen mask on yourself. Yeah. Take a moment. [00:41:53] Vince Menzione: Pause. [00:41:55] Rebecca Jones: Pause. Reflect, reflect. I told you I walked down to the beach this morning. [00:41:59] Rebecca Jones: It’s a great moment. Take a moment for yourself. It’s not passing you by. We’re just getting started. [00:42:06] Vince Menzione: Did you hear that? My friends and listeners? Take a moment. And so great to have you here in the room. Yeah. [00:42:13] Rebecca Jones: Thank you so [00:42:14] Vince Menzione: much. Thank you. And I want to thank our listeners, our viewers, for following along, ultimate Guide to Partnering and our YouTube channel Ultimate Partner. [00:42:23] Vince Menzione: And please, please, please come join us. We have an incredible year ahead. This was our event, number one of five. And Ultimate partner Live will be in Bellevue on the 11th through the 13th of May. [00:42:36] Rebecca Jones: Yeah, I’ll [00:42:36] Vince Menzione: see. You’ll see you there. Rebecca will be there. It’s [00:42:38] Rebecca Jones: in my backyard. [00:42:39] Vince Menzione: It’s in your backyard. And we are gonna have incredible leaders in the room. [00:42:42] Vince Menzione: So thank you for watching. Thank you for listening to The Ultimate Guide to Partnering. [00:42:47] Rebecca Jones: Don’t forget, ultimate Partner Live is coming [00:42:50] Vince Menzione: soon, May 11th through the 13th in beautiful Bellevue, Washington. I hope to see you there.s I, as I wrap up here, I just wanna make sure that what, where

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In this episode of The Way We See It, Pastor Alex Bryant breaks down the latest on Operation Epic Fury, the joint United States and Israeli military campaign responding to escalating Iranian aggression. Pastor Alex explains why every military conflict is not a war, how limited strikes work, and why strong action now may actually prevent a much larger conflict later. They explore Iran's retaliation, the regional fallout, and what all of this means for America and our allies. Pastor Alex is joined by former United States Attorney General John Ashcroft, who brings seasoned insight and experience to help make sense of a rapidly shifting global situation. This is straight talk, clear thinking, and the way we see it. #TWWSI, #OperationEpicFury, #JohnAshcroft, #USIsraelAlliance, #MiddleEastUpdate, #FaithAndFreedom, #NationalSecurity, #StrongLeadership, #PastorAlexBryant, #RealTalkOnGlobalEvents Alex Bryant Ministries is focused on helping people be reconciled to God, then within one's own self, and finally being reconciled to our fellow man in order to become disciples. Connect with us and our resources:    Our books - Let's Start Again & Man UP    More about us Like, subscribe, and share. Partner with ABM to place resources in jails and the inner city for $19 a month at alexbryant.org.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram

Ian sits down with Trinity Nguyen, CMO at UserGems, to unpack how modern B2B teams balance AI-powered demand capture with measurable brand building. Trinity shares how signal-based ABM drives pipeline, why SDRs report to marketing, how owned events outperform conference booths, and what it really takes to move fast without losing alignment in an AI-driven go-to-market world. Key Takeaways:  Signal-based outbound wins. Prioritizing who to target, when to engage, and why drives higher conversion than volume alone. · Brand can't stay a black box. Marketing leaders must map awareness to buying stages and find breadcrumbs to revenue. · AI should scale capacity, not replace thinking. Used well, it gives teams air cover when resources are tight. · Owned events create real lift. Even registration alone can significantly increase downstream win rates. · Prospecting is one of the hardest jobs in GTM. SDR roles build resilience — but closing requires a different muscle. · Alignment matters more than speed alone. Moving fast is powerful, but only if marketing and sales stay in lockstep. Episode Timestamps:(02:23) Trust Tree: Demand capture and building brand (18:48) The Playbook: When you depend on your own product Sponsor: Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com. Qualified helps you turn your website into a pipeline generation machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable website visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, intent data, and Piper, your AI SDR. Visit Qualified.com to learn more. Links: · Connect with Ian on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianfaison/   · Connect with Trinity on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/trinitynguyen/   · Learn more about UserGems:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/trinitynguyen/   · Learn more about Caspian Studios:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/caspian-studios/about/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of The Way We See It, Pastor Alex Bryant weighs in on the national conversation surrounding Voter ID. Is it Jim Crow 2.0? Is it an attempt to suppress the Black vote? Pastor Alex does not believe that. He breaks down why voter ID is simple common sense and highlights a key fact the media often ignores: 70% of all Americans, Black or white, believe people should show identification when they vote. He is joined by his friend Carl Jackson, host of The Carl Jackson Show, and together they take a deeper look at how the SAVE Act fits into the larger debate. This conversation is a timely reminder that voter integrity is not a partisan issue, but a unity issue, and the future of our elections depends on clarity, honesty, and shared values. #TWWSI, #VoterID, #TheSAVEAct, #ElectionIntegrity, #FaithAndCulture, #CarlJacksonShow, #CommonSenseVoting, #PastorAlexBryant, #TruthAndUnity, #RealTalkLeadership Alex Bryant Ministries is focused on helping people be reconciled to God, then within one's own self, and finally being reconciled to our fellow man in order to become disciples. Connect with us and our resources:    Our books - Let's Start Again & Man UP    More about us Like, subscribe, and share. Partner with ABM to place resources in jails and the inner city for $19 a month at alexbryant.org.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram

A CMO Confidential Interview with Bill Zengel, B2B Practice Leader and SVP of the Association of National Advertisers (ANA). Bill explains how there's nearly $2 trillion in hidden brand value in the B2B space, how to become one of the 39% of B2B marketers who are confident, why marketers should focus on contribution versus attribution, and why measurement is more complicated in the B2B space. Key discussion topics include: why one of the main emotions in B2B buyers can be fear of failure; the importance of being on the "Day One List;" and how to avoid the forces that drive conservative creative in a time where breakthrough matters. Tune in to hear if you suffer from "lead addiction" and how many fries are in a Burger King serving. The Confident B2B Marketer: The 8 Markers That Separate Winners (with ANA's Bill Zengel)Only 39% of B2B marketers describe themselves as “confident.” In this episode of CMO Confidential, Mike Linton sits down with Bill Zengel (SVP, B2B Practice Leader at the Association of National Advertisers) to break down what the top performers do differently—and why “confidence” is really a proxy for measurable commercial contribution.Bill shares the research behind ANA's Confident B2B Marketer study (built from a survey of 200 senior marketers) and the operating system it points to: measurement first, then AI readiness built on a real data foundation, modern ABM, buyer-group/channel strategy, brand and creativity, and the martech stack that makes it all work. The conversation also gets into the leadership tension that keeps teams stuck—lead addiction, short-term performance thinking, and the core emotion that drives B2B buying: fear.What you'll learn:- Why B2B marketing is still unevenly managed—and why that's changing- The 8 “markers” that correlate with B2B marketing success- Why AI readiness is mostly a data foundation problem- The shift from attribution arguments to contribution language- Why lead addiction and “performance marketing” create short-term traps- How fear shapes B2B creativity (and how winners still take smart risks)- Why customer reviews and existing customers matter more than most teams admitResources mentioned:- ANA B2B Practice: https://www.ana.net/b2bChapters:00:00 Welcome + today's topic (The Confident B2B Marketer) + Bill Zengel01:38 Why so many B2B studies (measurement, accountability, contribution)03:01 Is B2B marketing worse managed than B2C?04:35 From “Marcom” to buyer groups + younger self-serve buyers06:00 What “confident” means + how ANA designed the study06:23 Why Bill fielded the study + surveying 200 senior marketers07:42 The “biomarkers” story: how to identify what actually matters09:18 The 8 markers (measurement, AI readiness, ABM, buyer-group/channel, brand/creativity, data foundation, martech)11:22 AI readiness explained: why data foundations are the real constraint16:05 Measurement reframed: contribution vs. attribution17:53 Brand as a moat (and why major “B2B brands” dominate value)19:56 Lead addiction + the short-term performance marketing trap22:16 The core B2B buying emotion is fear—and why that blocks creativity25:14 The B2B brand opportunity (and why solving it extends careers)26:08 What boards/CEOs should test now to avoid getting passed27:55 The “Day One List” + how peer/customer reviews shape growth28:52 Two great stories: the missing Trojan horse + Burger King fry-counting31:28 Where to find more episodes + sign-offNew shows drop every Tuesday. Subscribe for more interviews on marketing leadership, measurement, brand-to-demand, and modern B2B growth.#B2BMarketing #MarketingMeasurement #CMO #ABM #BrandStrategySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Did you know that online sports betting is now fully active in Missouri? In December alone, over $543 million was spent on online wagers. In this episode of The Way We See It, Pastor Alex Bryant sits down with two young men—Trey Bryant and Ashwin Garlapaty—to talk about a rising cultural trend that's quietly targeting their generation. With just a few taps on an app, users can bet on everything from the game winner to the color of Gatorade dumped on the coach. What seems like harmless fun can lead to long-term consequences like addiction, secrecy, and habits that follow young men into marriage and family life. Pastor Alex shares his concerns and creates space for real, honest dialogue about the dangers, the appeal, and the spiritual responsibility of navigating it all. This isn't just a conversation about gambling—it's about wisdom, identity, and guarding your future. #TWWSI, #OnlineSportsBetting, #FaithAndCulture, #GamblingAddiction, #GuardYourFuture, #TalkToYoungMen, #BettingApps, #PastorAlexBryant, #MissouriSportsBetting, #RealTalkFaith Alex Bryant Ministries is focused on helping people be reconciled to God, then within one's own self, and finally being reconciled to our fellow man in order to become disciples. Connect with us and our resources:    Our books - Let's Start Again & Man UP    More about us Like, subscribe, and share. Partner with ABM to place resources in jails and the inner city for $19 a month at alexbryant.org.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram