Podcasts about ABM

In this episode of The Way We See It, part of our Christian Businessman Series, Pastor Alex talks with longtime friend Dr. Tony Robinson, Director of Human Resources for Certified Staff at Independence School District and former superintendent. The conversation traces their connection back to Evangel, then moves into Tony's journey as a husband, father, and leader in education. He shares candidly about his faith walk, the challenges of balancing work and family, and how he strives to honor God in every area of life. Dr. Robinson offers practical advice for men navigating leadership, faith, and responsibility—reminding us that at the end of the day, he's a man just like the rest of us, doing his best to live with excellence, integrity, and purpose. #ChristianBusinessman #FaithInEducation #LeadershipMatters #MenOfFaith #KingdomLeadership #TheWayWeSeeItPodcast #PublicSchoolLeadership #FaithAndWork #PurposeDrivenLife #LiveYourFaith #EducationalLeadership #IntegrityInLeadership #WorkLifeFaith #ExcellenceWithPurpose #TonyRobinson #ISDLeadership #EvangelAlumni #FaithInTheWorkplace #ChristianMenWhoLead Alex Bryant Ministries is focused on helping people be reconciled to God, then within one's own self, and finally being reconciled to our fellow man in order to become disciples. Connect with us and our resources:    Our books - Let's Start Again & Man UP    More about us Like, subscribe, and share. Partner with ABM to place resources in jails and the inner city for $19 a month at alexbryant.org.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram

Send us a textEveryone makes ABM about accounts - and better account targeting. But ABM is not really about accounts. It's about the buyers inside the accounts you want to land and expand. It's about improving the interactions you have with these buyers and the account experiences you deliver to them. In this episode, Andy Monahan at Yield Group joins Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber to discuss what it means to be buyer-led and how ABM programs should be buyer-led. They also discuss:1. How GTM teams do not understand their buyers -- and what GTM teams are missing.2. How teams are not looking at buying group make-up fit, strategic fit, or future fit when defining the ICP. 3. How teams are not looking at the readiness of accounts.  4. How teams often miss the step of realigning their positioning, messaging, content, and even their pricing with the new ICP.  They are pushing out the old stuff to new accounts and hoping for a better result. But accounts are still going dark because they haven't changed the content, interactions, and experiences to align with the ICP and the buyers within those ICP accounts. 

Send us a textA couple of months ago, Gabe Rogl, the CEO of Demandbase, posted:BGM, or Buying Group Marketing, is the new ABM. Yes, ABM was named wrong in the first place. It should have been account-based go-to market, or account-based experience.  But it's because it's just not a marketing thing. And yes, it's still foundational for businesses that market complex solutions with long sales cycles, but there's been a clear evolution the last 15 years that's led us to the criticality of buying groups. It started around 2010, when the lead-based approach reached its endpoint. That led to the decade-plus evolution of ABM as a practice, as a job function, and as a technology. ABM was a huge step forward because it focused resources on accounts that led to the greatest LTV and made sales and marketing alignment a priority. But today, the best go-to markets are supercharging ABM by operationalizing buying groups as:1.  Not everyone in an account is relevant to the sales cycle.2. There are more people involved in a sales cycle than ever before. 3. Accounts can purchase multiple products, focusing on the account alone without using buyer groups as a data object. This makes it very difficult to prospect, sell, forecast multiple opportunities in the same account.4. Engaging buying groups de-risks every phase of revenue creation. Pipeline, win rates, renewal, expansion. 5. It is an absolute competitive differentiator right now, because few companies are doing it well.This is why he says BGM initiatives will drive the next wave of B2B growth. But on this episode, Jessica Fewless at Inverta joined Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber to challenge Gabe's post and thoughts.  

Scrappy ABM host Mason Cosby sits down with Nick Bennett on 1,000 Routes and tells the story behind a “little teeny tiny side hustle” that became “sold a million bucks” and then “another million” within months. Starting with a $25,000 win in March 2023 and a $150,000 deal that “backed out,” Mason lays out “project revenue,” the activation playbook, an $80,000 annual contract, and why “less is more” with “two service lines.” It's all inbound from LinkedIn and a podcast, plus “speaking engagements,” saying yes to interviews, and an “absurd number of webinars”—including 60 podcast interviews and 18 webinars in ~60 days that created over $2 million in pipeline.He gets “shockingly honest” about 120 hour weeks, a postpartum spouse editing podcasts, firing seven contractors, moving to W2s, and then learning seasonality and sales cycles. Mason explains why a debt free approach matters, how he's scaling out for a two-month paternity leave, and why he turned down six to seven million to stay focused on a mission: equip a million marketers with repeatable account-based playbooks by January 2035.Nick Bennett — host of 1,000 Routes. In this conversation, Nick steers the candid discussion on solopreneurship, scaling, contractors vs. W2, and the shift from “Mason the marketer” to “Mason the CEO.”

Scalestack is revolutionizing go-to-market operations through intelligent automation, helping enterprise revenue teams eliminate what CEO Elio Narciso calls the "manual work tax" - the 72% of time sales reps spend on tedious data tasks instead of engaging with customers. With $3.1 million in funding and enterprise customers including MongoDB, Redis, and Astronomer, Scalestack has built an agentic orchestration platform that transforms how large organizations manage their revenue data. In this conversation, Narciso shares how his team discovered the massive ROI hidden in back-office automation and why the future belongs to companies that can seamlessly blend human strategy with machine execution. Topics Discussed: The concept of "manual work tax" and its impact on sales productivity  Why 95% of AI investments in enterprises are failing to produce results  Scalestack's evolution from automation platform to agentic workflow orchestration  The company's enterprise-first approach and deployment strategy with large customers  How Scalestack landed MongoDB as an early customer through targeted outbound  The role of podcasting as an ABM strategy for enterprise sales  Scalestack's vision to replace traditional CRMs with intelligent systems of action GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Target the back-office before the front-office: While many AI companies rush to automate customer-facing roles like SDRs, Narciso emphasizes that the real ROI lies in back-office automation. He cites an MIT study showing that 95% of AI investments fail when focused on last-mile customer interactions, while back-office process automation delivers measurable results. B2B founders should prioritize automating the tedious work that doesn't directly touch customers but enables better customer engagement. Enterprise customers require co-creation, not just deployment: Scalestack's success with MongoDB, Redis, and other large customers came through what Narciso calls "deployment engineers" - essentially building custom solutions collaboratively. He draws inspiration from Palantir's model of developing technology alongside customers. This approach requires significant upfront investment but creates defensible technology that can be productized for the broader market. B2B founders targeting enterprise should be prepared to invest in customer success resources that can handle complex, bespoke implementations. Use customer language to refine your messaging: Narciso completely redid Scalestack's website based on language extracted from hundreds of customer calls and podcast interviews. He emphasizes that "customers always have the best words" because they've lived the pain most deeply. Rather than relying on internal assumptions about positioning, B2B founders should systematically capture and analyze how customers describe their problems and desired outcomes. Cold email still works with enterprise buyers when done strategically: Scalestack's first major customer, MongoDB, came from a cold email to their SVP of Sales Ops. The key was targeting someone (employee #8 at MongoDB) who had an entrepreneurial mindset and curiosity about learning from vendors. Narciso's insight: enterprise operators often want to learn from startups tackling similar problems, whether to buy the solution or implement it internally. B2B founders should research target prospects' backgrounds and approach those with startup experience or operational curiosity. Podcasting as ABM for enterprise sales: Narciso uses his "Revenue Engine Masters" podcast strategically as an account-based marketing tool, targeting specific people at target companies rather than focusing on broad reach. After recording nearly 20 episodes, he's seeing inbound interest and using the content to extract messaging insights. The podcast also strengthens relationships with prospects and customers who participate. B2B founders should consider podcasting not as a mass-market strategy but as a high-touch relationship-building tool for their ideal customer profile.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

Scrappy ABM brings practical playbooks that don't break the bank. In this episode, host Mason Cosby sits down with Katie Yagodnik, founder of SFE Advisors, to focus on one of the most underutilized areas of revenue growth: the post-sales experience.While much of the market obsesses over CAC, Katie and Mason unpack the power of net revenue retention and why customer journeys after the sale are where long-term value is created. From segmentation strategies and digital adoption to habit formation and personalization, Katie shares how data, milestones, and feedback loops transform customer relationships. The conversation shows exactly how mapping behaviors and empowering users at the right moments leads to retention, expansion, and exponential growth.

In this episode of the Scaling Japan Podcast, we welcome Rina Sakuraba, Founder and CEO of Coaching Leaders Japan, an executive coach and cross-cultural leadership expert who helps professionals build deeper communication and emotional safety inside Japanese companies.Rina breaks down the concept of ne-mawashi, Japan's behind-the-scenes alignment process and why it's essential for getting real buy-in from teams, not just silent nods.She shares how foreign managers and Japanese leaders can improve communication through coaching, build trust with quieter team members, and avoid the common pitfalls that cause ne-mawashi to backfire.One surprising insight: many teams mistake information-sharing for alignment. Rina explains how leaders can transform one-way communication into real consensus-building.If you're managing a Japanese team, selling into Japan, or navigating cross-cultural leadership, this episode is packed with honest and actionable advice.AIM B2B – Integrated Marketing & PR in Asia This episode is sponsored by Custom Media, Tokyo's leading integrated marketing and PR agency since 2008, helping global brands expand across Japan and APAC. They can help you with:Localized storytelling to build trust in Asian marketsStrategic performance marketing for measurable growthAccount‑based marketing (ABM), paid media, GEO, and SEOHubSpot‑certified CRM & marketing automationData‑driven implementation with cultural expertise Learn more about AIM B2B Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction03:00 – Why Ontological Coaching is Important07:55 – What is Ne-mawashi15:02 – Purposes of Ne-mawashi in Japanese Culture25:05 – How to Set a Comfortable Environment for Sharing Concerns30:00 – Challenges Leaders Face with Ne-mawashi39:27 – Techniques for Better PracticeLinks from Guest Appearance:

Traditional ABM is changing fast. Are you keeping up? In this episode, you'll learn how AI can power up your ABM, personalize outreach at scale, and boost engagement without losing the human touch. Get real strategies and tools to build trust and measurable results.And don't forget! You can crush your marketing strategy with just a few minutes a week by signing up for the StrategyCast Newsletter. You'll receive weekly bursts of marketing tips, clips, resources, and a whole lot more. Visit https://strategycast.com/ for more details.==Let's Break It Down==07:49 Tech Platforms: Skills and Strategy Barriers08:30 "Scaling Personalized Web Experiences"14:17 "AI-Driven Personalized Messaging Journeys"18:46 "Streamlined Tech and Personalized Engagement"21:00 Personalized Account Strategies with AI23:05 Thoughtful Direct Mail Strategies26:27 Personalization Erodes Media Trust31:59 Streamlining Sales Signal Detection33:58 Endless Data Hygiene Challenge==Where You Can Find Us==Website: https://strategycast.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/strategy_cast/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/strategycast==Leave a Review==Hey there, StrategyCast fans!If you've found our tips and tricks on marketing strategies helpful in growing your business, we'd be thrilled if you could take a moment to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Your feedback not only supports us but also helps others discover how they can elevate their business game!

This episode features an interview with Thea Hayden, CMO at Cognizant, a  leading professional services company that brings deep technology and industry expertise together to help our clients transform and stay ahead. Thea discusses the importance of a strong partnership with IT, and the significance of multi-channel tactics. She also shares insights into experiential marketing tactics and her commitment to fostering a culture of experimentation and fun within her marketing team. Key Takeaways:We often discuss building strong relationships with the CFO, but investing in your relationship with your CIO is essential too, since the martech stack is so crucial to success. Overindexing on any strength will make it your weakness; nothing works in isolation and a multichannel approach is necessary. AI may be the death of spray and pray tactics and broad reach marketing, since personalization will be so much easier and more successful. Quote:  ”The tactic that may finally die because of AI is spray and pray, right? Because everything's going to be so personalized and so easy to personalize, and so much more effective because of that. And so I think even the days of just super broad reach maybe are dead altogether.”Episode Timestamps: *(03:00) The Trust Tree: Start with the end in mind*(16:48) The Playbook: Overindexing on strengths, makes them weaknesses*(33:30) The Dust Up: Build a strong relationship with IT*(34:26) Quick Hits: Thea's quick hits Sponsor:Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com. Qualified helps you turn your website into a pipeline generation machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable website visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, intent data, and Piper, your AI SDR. Visit Qualified.com to learn more.Links:Connect with Ian on LinkedInConnect with Thea on LinkedInLearn more about CognizantLearn more about Caspian Studios

In this episode, I delve into a topic that's been personally frustrating me and affecting countless other LinkedIn users: the dramatic decline in organic reach and engagement on the platform. LinkedIn has been instrumental in building Health Launchpad's brand over the years, but like many others, I've noticed it's simply not working the way it used to.Richard Vander Blom's comprehensive LinkedIn Algorithm Report is an incredible resource that I reference in this episode.This reveals some stark statistics from February 2024 to February 2025:50% decline in reach (impressions) across the platform25% decline in engagement (likes, shares, comments)41% decline in follower growth rates95% of creators have experienced declining reachLinkedIn has fundamentally changed its algorithm to prioritize relevance over exposure. Where we once used LinkedIn for broad amplification, the platform now focuses on getting content in front of fewer but more relevant people. This LinkedIn decline, combined with decreasing SEO-driven traffic due to AI overviews, means two key pillars of inbound marketing are becoming less effective. Both Google and LinkedIn have changed in ways that make inbound marketing more challenging. This, in turn, increases the pressure to buy ads. This forces us as marketers to fundamentally rethink our inbound strategies.In this episode, I present my seven-point strategy for adapting to these changes. It's still possible to build meaningful connections and grow your business through LinkedIn. The key is to accept that the old playbook no longer works and to embrace these new realities.Key Topics“(00:00:00) Introduction”“(00:03:00) LinkedIn's importance to Health Launchpad and declining performance”“(00:05:00) Richard Vander Blom's LinkedIn Algorithm Report findings”“(00:08:00) LinkedIn's algorithm shift: relevance over exposure”“(00:17:00) Seven strategies introduction”“(00:19:00) Strategy 1: Niche focus and target audience sizing”“(00:21:00) Strategy 2: Engagement metrics over reach metrics”“(00:22:00) Strategy 3: Active engagement"“(00:24:00) Strategy 4: Mobile-first content creation and formats”“(00:27:00) Strategy 5: Building following through consistency”“(00:30:00) Strategy 6: Daily connection building (30-40 invites)”“(00:33:00) Strategy 7: LinkedIn newsletters as content format”“(00:35:00) Broader implications: SEO and LinkedIn both declining”“(00:37:00) Call to action for listener feedback and connection”Check out our full blog post for a deep dive into LinkedIn's algorithm changes.Here are the other posts I referenced:How to Master LinkedIn, Build Your Brand and WinCustomersMy Insane LinkedIn RoutineLatest LinkedIn Ads BestPractices for Healthtech MarketersInterested in exploring how to improve your LinkedIn strategy? ⁠Reach out to me directly⁠ to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call—just an opportunity to talk through your LinkedIn questions and challenges.Subscribe to The HealthTech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!

Scrappy ABM is all about practical playbooks that don't break the bank. In this special repurposed episode, host Mason Cosby shares his conversation from the Human-First AI Marketing Podcast by Avenue9 with Mike Montague.Together, they explore how account-based marketing is evolving in the age of AI. Mason breaks down his four-part framework—data, distribution, destination, and direction—and shows how artificial intelligence fits into each category. From identifying the best customers through firmographics and profitability reports, to analyzing transcripts with tools like Fathom, to training AI for authentic content creation, Mason highlights where AI helps and where it falls short.This conversation also emphasizes the irreplaceable role of human connection, the need for intentional strategy, and the importance of aligning marketing, sales, and customer success teams around best-fit accounts.

How can Account-Based Marketing deliver growth in an era of AI and complex buying journeys? NetApp's Fabiana Brunetti shares how piloting, personalization, and cross-functional buy-in can turn ABM from aspiration to action.

In this episode, we delve into the world of Account-Based Marketing (ABM) with Stuart Matthewman, who shares the hard-won lessons from IR's six-year journey with ABM. From early failures and misalignment issues to achieving an incredible 80X return on marketing spend, Stuart reveals the critical importance of sales and marketing alignment. He provides a detailed blueprint for implementing a successful ABM program. This episode is packed with actionable insights for B2B marketers looking to move beyond traditional lead generation tactics and build sustainable revenue growth through strategic account targeting. Guest Introduction Stuart Matthewman joined IR in 2014 and was promoted to CMO in 2022, having risen through the ranks and strengthened the marketing function. Under his leadership as CMO, he has been a key contributor to IR's remarkable growth, driving a 132% increase in revenue, a 289% growth in EBITDA, and a complete overhaul of the global marketing team. Stuart is a B2B CMO of the Year Finalist for 2025 and brings extensive experience leading global marketing teams across ASX-listed technology companies. Key Topics The early ABM struggles: Why IR's initial attempts at account-based marketing failed over six years, including issues with sales alignment and over-personalisation too earlyThe turning point: How bringing in new sales leadership and rebranding ABM as "Account Based Everything" (ABE) transformed their approach and resultsThe 12-16 week ABM process: A detailed breakdown of IR's structured approach, from pre-warming accounts to SDR activation and sales follow-up sequencesSales and marketing alignment: Practical strategies for getting sales teams fully bought into ABM programs and maintaining consistent executionSDRs under marketing: Why IR moved their SDR function from sales to marketing and the benefits this structure provides for ABM executionMeasuring ABM success: How IR tracks progress without traditional MQL metrics and focuses on account engagement and pipeline generationAI integration: Current experiments with AI to automate and scale ABM activities while maintaining personalisationBranding evolution: IR's journey from "Integrated Research" to "IR" and the market research that guided their brand consolidation strategy Resources & Links People Mentioned: Stuart Matthewman - CMO, IRByron Sharp - Director, Ehrenberg-Bass InstituteProfessor Jenni Romaniuk - Associate Director, Ehrenberg-Bass InstituteMark Ritson - Marketing Professor and Mini MBA FounderKerry Cunningham - 6Sense ABM ExpertKim Scott - Author of "Radical Candor"John Lombardo - B2B Institute (LinkedIn) Companies & Tools: IR (Integrated Research) - Performance monitoring software for critical IT infrastructureEhrenberg-Bass Institute - World's largest centre for marketing research6SenseDemandBase Books & Resources: "How Brands Grow" - Byron Sharp"How Brands Grow Part 2" - Byron Sharp and Jenni Romaniuk"Radical Candor" - Kim Scott"Better Brand Health" - Jenni Romaniuk"Building Distinctive Brand Assets" - Jenni RomaniukWomen in Product Marketing Podcast Subscribe to the xG Weekly Newsletter for weekly insights on B2B growth across APAC: https://xgrowth.com.au/newsletter Contact & Credits Host: Shahin Hoda Guest: Stuart Matthewman Produced by: Shahin Hoda and Alexander Hipwell Edited by: Alexander Hipwell Music by: Breakmaster Cylinder APAC's B2B Growth Podcast is Presented by xGrowth

On this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby welcomes Galen Dow, founder of BrandGen and the first Elite tier HubSpot agency, New Breed. The conversation tackles one of the most common challenges for revenue leaders: how to run effective account-based advertising without draining budget on massive, expensive platforms.Galen shares the genesis of BrandGen and how it enables organizations to connect HubSpot with open web advertising, programmatic campaigns, and even connected TV—without software fees. Together, Mason and Galen explore the concept of account-based RevOps, the seven playbooks for ABM execution, and how to empower sales teams with direct control of campaigns. The discussion highlights practical strategies for orchestrating omnichannel touches, measuring engagement, and aligning marketing and sales to accelerate pipeline growth.

In this episode of the Scaling Japan Podcast, we're joined by Robert Heldt, CEO of AIM B2B, to explore how marketing in Japan is transforming.Robert shares exclusive data and insights from the 2025 State of Marketing report in Japan and across APAC. From skyrocketing AI adoption to a sharp dip in content marketing effectiveness, this episode unpacks what's changing, why it matters, and how companies can adapt.If you're a marketing leader, brand manager, or agency working in Japan, this episode is your inside guide to what's working and what's next.AIM B2B – Integrated Marketing & PR in AsiaThis episode is sponsored by AIM B2B, Tokyo's leading integrated marketing and PR agency since 2008, formerly known as Custom Media. Helping global brands grow across Japan and the APAC region with:• Localized storytelling to build trust • Strategic performance marketing for measurable growth • Account‑based marketing (ABM), paid media, GEO, and SEO • HubSpot‑certified CRM & marketing automation • Data‑driven implementation with cultural expertiseLearn more: https://aim-b2b.com/Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction01:12 – Overview of the Podcast02:10 – Recap on 2024 Report03:10 – Surveys on Marketing Report06:15 – Significant Changes in Results: AI Usage for Marketing07:50 – Findings About Similarities: Storytelling, Content Objectives09:52 – Report Regarding Usage of Generative AI and AI in General14:00 – Significant Changes in Results: Content Marketing as A Strategy18:36 – Story of Rebranding AIM B2B from Custom Media24:50 – Finding that Impacted AIM B2B's Strategy: Outsourcing39:07 – Types of Content from B2B Companies41:30 – Importance of Thought Leadership Content45:55 – Content Marketing Trends in Japan49:32 – Top 3 Skills Marketers Will Need50:45 – How AIM B2B is Scaling Clients' Success52:33 – How to Connect with RobertLinks from Guest Appearance:Robert Heldt on LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertheldt/Link to Report : https://aim-b2b.com/blog/longform/content-marketing-japan-2025-insights/AIM B2B Podcast : https://aim-b2b.com/podcast/AIM B2B: https://aim-b2b.comCoaching with Tyson Looking to take your business to the next level? Let our host Tyson Batino help you scale from $100,000 to $10,000,000 with his coaching and advisory services.

What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Nadia Davis, VP Marketing at CaliberMind. (00:00) - Intro (01:12) - In This Episode (02:53) - Understanding the Attribution Periodic Table Framework (07:49) - Why Marketing Teams Face Higher ROI Pressure Than Other Departments (20:15) - Why Attribution Fails Without Data Stewardship (33:02) - Treating Multi-Touch Attribution as an Analytical Tool (39:05) - Exploring Chain Based Attribution Models for B2B Marketers (46:31) - Why Customizing Markov Chain Attribution Improves Accuracy (50:56) - How to Decide When Attribution Data Is Good Enough to Guide Strategy (01:00:00) - Why Marketing Operations Defines Multi Touch Attribution Success (01:04:50) - Why Time Management Drives Career Fulfillment Summary: Nadia learned early that attribution keeps you in business, proving to executives why the budget, the team, and the work matter. Seeing “attribution is dead” posts, she built her Attribution Periodic Table to show data modeling, measurement rules, and cross-team alignment as one connected system. In B2B, where budgets are treated like investment portfolios, she uses multi-touch attribution to connect brand and demand to revenue in CFO terms. For her, it's an analytics tool, not a scoreboard, shaped by sequences like her govtech playbook where event conversations plus on-demand webinars moved deals forward. Chain-based and Markov models help her cut noise, drop vanity metrics, and ground decisions in logged, meaningful touches, all anchored in strong marketing operations that make multi-touch attribution something teams actually trust.About NadiaNadia Davis is the VP of Marketing at CaliberMind, where she leads demand generation, ABM, and marketing operations. She is known for building teams from scratch, overhauling martech stacks, and creating data-driven programs that sales teams can act on immediately. With over 15 years in B2B marketing, she has worked across SaaS, IT automation, healthcare tech, and data platforms, consistently delivering measurable growth by aligning marketing execution with revenue goals.Her career includes senior roles at PayIt, Stonebranch, LexisNexis Risk Solutions, Informa, and ND Medica Inc., as well as nearly a decade as an ABM and digital strategy consultant. She has led global campaigns, designed persona-driven targeting, run high-profile industry events, and built marketing programs that continue to deliver pipeline well beyond launch. A former Girls in Tech board member, Nadia combines hands-on technical expertise with the leadership skills to grow both teams and results.The Periodic Table of Marketing Attribution ElementsNadia has worked in revenue marketing long enough to know attribution is a survival tool. In every demand generation and performance role, she carried it like part of her standard kit. It was how she justified headcount, protected budgets, and kept the lights on in her department. Attribution helped her prove progress in a language executives understood.When she took over marketing at CaliberMind, she noticed the volume of “attribution is dead” posts climbing in her feed. The pattern felt familiar. Marketing tactics often get declared obsolete the moment they fail for someone, then replaced with whatever is trending. From her perspective, most of those posts came from SMB marketers moving on after a bad run. Meanwhile, enterprise teams were applying attribution with discipline, pairing it with strong data modeling, and getting measurable results. They simply were not talking about it publicly.That split in sentiment drove her to dig deeper. She wanted to measure the gap between what people were saying and what they were actually doing. The outcome was the State of 2025 Attribution report, anchored by her Revenue Marketing Periodic Table. Nadia built it to show attribution as part of an integrated framework, not a lone tactic. She broke it down into interconnected components:Data modeling that improves accuracy and removes noiseMeasurement frameworks that define terms and keep reporting consistentCross-functional alignment that ensures teams interpret the data the same way"So many things may seem completely disconnected, yet they all come together within a bigger ecosystem."The iceberg metaphor stuck with her. Most marketers focus on the visible metrics, but the real forces driving success are below the surface. Choosing the periodic table format brought this idea into focus. It showed each element as part of a larger system, each with its own role and complexity. Nadia even remembered struggling with chemistry in school, to the point where she once cheated on a test because she could not memorize the valency of certain elements. That frustration helped her appreciate the value of a clear visual framework when dealing with something complicated. The periodic table worked because it grouped related elements, revealed their relationships, and made the whole system easier to navigate.Key takeaway: Build attribution like a connected ecosystem. Pair it with precise data modeling, clear measurement frameworks, and strong cross-team alignment so every metric connects to a broader strategy. Map your system like a periodic table, where each element has a defined purpose and a place in the structure, that way you can spot gaps, diagnose problems faster, and prove impact without relying on surface-level numbers.Why Marketing Teams Face Higher ROI Pressure Than Other DepartmentsMarketing leaders manage one of the most lopsided jobs in business. One half of the work runs on instinct, creativity, and the psychology of memory. The other half is rooted in measurement, analytics, and financial accountability. Nadia points out that most marketers do not come from a statistics-heavy background, yet they are expected to operate as if they did. The pressure is not just to build campaigns that inspire but to show how those campaigns directly affect the bottom line.In B2B, the stakes climb even higher. Sales cycles can drag for months or even years, and the money behind your budget often comes from venture capital or private equity. Those investors see marketing spend as growth capital, not operational overhead. That means they expect a return. Nadia compares it to giving a retirement manager your savings. You would not leave them unchecked. You would want to see exactly how those dollars are working and why certain investments are made.Other departments do not face the same revenue-tied scrutiny. Finance manages operating budgets. Sales has smaller discretionary pools for travel and entertainment. HR spends what it takes to keep the team functioning. None of those groups is routinely asked to tie their activities to closed-won revenue. Marketing is, because its budget is treated as a bet on future growth, not a cost of maintaining the business.The challenge is translating marketing results into terms that matter to the C-suite. Nadia frames it clearly:“You are here because you got money to spend that we invested with you, and we want to have the responsible output from how this money is performing.”But that translation is rarely straightforward. Engagement, recall, and psychological impact are powerful, yet they do not speak the same language as pipeline targets and closed deals. In SaaS and tech, that disconnect is shrinking fast as investor pressure mounts. Marketing leaders who can quantify the financial impact of creative work are the ones who keep their budgets, and their seat at the table.Some people struggle with making decisions without near-perfect certainty, relying on data ...

In this AI Quick Take, I do my best to demystify the confusing landscape of AI models that's been a little overwhelming. The AI world feels like the mid-'90s browser wars all on steroids, with multiple companies vying for dominance, each with its own approach and philosophy.I started by breaking down the major players. The big story isn't just about who has the smartest model - it's about trust, speed, and who controls the interface between you and AI. I also go into how our company went through the process of selecting OpenAI as our enterprise platform, and why GPT-5's consolidation approach and improved reasoning capabilities could make it compelling for health tech marketing applications.Most importantly, I explored what this means for us as healthcare marketers. With AI getting better at complex research and evaluation, our buyers are going to do even deeper analysis before they ever engage with vendors. This creates both a challenge - harder to reach prospects early - and an opportunity to feed the AI beast with more comprehensive content that influences those AI-powered research sessions.Key Topics Covered:“(00:00:00) Introduction and GPT-5 Overview”“(00:01:00) The Complexity Problem”“(00:04:00) The Major AI Players Breakdown”“(00:11:00) Company AI Platform Selection”“(00:13:00) GPT-5 Deep Dive”“(00:16:00) Implications for Health Tech Marketing”Interested in exploring how to improve your AI enablement strategy? Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call—just an opportunity to talk through your LinkedIn questions and challenges.Subscribe to The HealthTech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!

If you've ever walked into a meeting with sales, presented a flawless marketing plan, and left with nothing but frustration, you're not alone. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby reveals the five biggest reasons sales teams won't buy into marketing programs—and what to do about it.From definitions that don't match up, to time horizons that clash, to calendars that feel empty or overwhelming, Mason explains how small misalignments create major breakdowns in trust. He also walks through the reality of seasonality, why pipeline timing matters, and how compensation structures can make alignment almost impossible.This is a blunt, practical breakdown of what really drives the disconnect between marketers and sales—and how to fix it before your next big plan gets ignored.

In this episode of the Scaling Japan Podcast, we welcome Fariza Abidova, CEO of Trusted Corporation, and a seasoned expert in cross-border innovation, corporate partnerships, and global HR development.Fariza shares what's really happening inside Japan's corporate innovation ecosystem from the invisible blockers within large organizations to the cultural nuances that slow down high-potential projects. She dives into why open innovation often fails to scale, which Japanese cities are becoming more startup and innovation-friendly, and what kind of timeline expectations foreign partners should really have.She also pulls back the curtain on hard truth facts as: after 3/4 years of running pilot innovation projects, many companies shut them down if revenue isn't produced, regardless of long-term potential.If you're a startup founder, consultant, or part of a government innovation program working in or with Japan, this episode is your inside guide to navigating corporate innovation here.AIM B2B – Integrated Marketing & PR in Asia This episode is sponsored by Custom Media, Tokyo's leading integrated marketing and PR agency since 2008, helping global brands expand across Japan and APAC. They can help you with:Localized storytelling to build trust in Asian marketsStrategic performance marketing for measurable growthAccount‑based marketing (ABM), paid media, GEO, and SEOHubSpot‑certified CRM & marketing automationData‑driven implementation with cultural expertise⁠Learn more about AIM B2BShow Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:05 – Why Accelerating Innovation in Japan 08:05 – Open Innovation 14:10 – Working with Japanese Corporations 19:45 – Innovation Challenges in Japanese Companies 23:05 – Secret Challenges Only Insiders Know 29:50 – How to Foster Innovation in Corporates 31:50 – Cities in Japan to Launch Innovation Projects 35:30 – Strategies for Accelerating Innovation 43:30 – Government Policy Shifts 50:10 – Tips for Engaging with Large Corporations 52:05 – Timelines: Japan vs Global 56:31 – Final Message from Fariza Links from Guest Appearance:

Richard Peterson, CFM, FMP, SFP is Director of IFM at ABM Industries Supporting Waymo where he is responsible for overseeing facility management operations and is passionate about driving operational excellence, safety, and innovation. He also serves as Vice President of the IFMA Silicon Valley Chapter and Secretary for IFMA's Corporate Facilities Council with a mission is to assist FMs in navigating their career journey using leadership skills training, peer mentoring, and specialized education. Mike Petrusky asks Richard about his experiences in the profession and why he believes that knowing one's strengths and attributes is essential for success in facility management. Being a workplace leader in FM today involves a balance between the technical aspects of the job and the human element of creating spaces that foster innovation and productivity. Richard brings his personal passion for leadership development and community engagement to his career, which has resulted in his attaining IFMA credentials that have led to his professional success. Mike and Richard discuss IFMA's upcoming World Workplace conference in Minneapolis as they look forward to networking and great educational opportunities and they encourage you to grow in your facility management journey by offering the inspiration needed to be a Workplace Innovator! Connect with Richard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-peterson-cfm-fmp-sfp-33a526ba/ Learn more about IFMA's World Workplace: https://worldworkplace.ifma.org/ Explore the ABM website: https://www.abm.com/ Discover free resources and explore past interviews at: https://www.workplaceinnovator.com/ Learn more about Eptura™: https://eptura.com/ Connect with Mike on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikepetrusky/  

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!In this episode of Ops Cast by MarketingOps.com (powered by The MO Pros), hosts Michael Hartmann, Mike Rizzo, and Naomi Liu delve into one of the most discussed shifts in B2B marketing and revenue operations: the evolving roles of Marketing Qualified Leads (MQLs) and Marketing Qualified Accounts (MQAs).In this episode, you'll learn:Why the traditional MQL model may be falling short and where MQAs step in.How to realign marketing and sales around shared intent signals.Common pitfalls when transitioning from MQLs to MQAs (and how to avoid them).Practical advice on shifting measurement frameworks to reflect real buyer behavior.To unpack this timely topic, they're joined by two accomplished leaders in RevOps and marketing strategy:Andrea Frazier, Senior Revenue Operations Technical Consultant, is known for her expertise in building scalable systems and aligning sales, marketing, and data. What makes her presence special on this podcast is that she will be a part of the Mopsapalooza as a speaker.Jessica Fewless, VP of Marketing and Partnerships, has deep experience in ABM, demand gen, and full-funnel program strategy.Together, they challenge long-standing definitions of buying intent and discuss how teams can evolve from lead-focused metrics to account-based signals that drive more aligned, strategic growth.Tune in now, because whether you're in Marketing Ops, RevOps, or Demand Gen, this episode offers an expert-led perspective on what it means to qualify, measure, and act on intent in today's B2B environment.Check out our complete toolkit for helping you move from MQLs to MQAs!Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals Visit UTM.io and tell them the Ops Cast team sent you. Join us at MOps-Apalooza: https://mopsapalooza.com/Save 10% with code opscast10Support the show

In this episode, I sit down with Kristin Russel, CMO of symplr, to unpack how she's building a unified brand in one of the most complex corners of healthcare — and doing it right in the middle of the AI revolution. Kristin shares how symplr has evolved from a collection of acquired companies into the “backbone of healthcare operations,” and why that's required not just smart marketing but category creation. We explore her concept of “branded demand,” how she balances ABM, demand gen, and opportunity marketing, and why she believes you can't outwork complexity — you have to outsmart it. From AI-driven personalization to surviving the shift toward AI-powered search, Kristin offers an inside look at how one of healthcare's biggest players is keeping their marketing fresh, relevant, and human.Key Topics:“(00:00) Kristin's untraditional path to marketing”“(03:00) The symplr story”“(09:30) Creating a new category”“(16:00) Growth marketing beyond new logos”“(21:45) The art of “branded demand”“(26:00) Adapting to the AI search shift”“(30:00) Always On / Always Optimizing”“(35:00) AI in content creation”“(39:00) Personalization at scale”“(41:45) Kristin's closing advice”Check out our full blog post where I break down Kristin's approach to “Branded Demand”.Interested in exploring how to build your brand? Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call—just an opportunity to talk through your LinkedIn questions and challenges.Subscribe to The HealthTech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!

Send us a textOn this episode, Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber talk ABM with Aura Lupascu - ABM leader at the supply chain tech company, Icron.   When you listen to this episode, you'll learn:1. The collaboration with sales that is needed to drive revenue growth with ABM --- and how ABM cannot be done in pockets and reactive, like ABM was done at one of Aura's past companies.  2. How your ABM programs should have an impact beyond sourcing the pipeline.3. The problem with 1:1 hyper-personalization with accounts that haven't proven they are worthy of the white-glove care and attention. You'll learn about an account-based GTM where there is a personalization journey.  4. The challenges the teams face with 6sense, including the fact that the platform only defines the total relevant market and not your ICP, and that intent data is speculative. 5. How Icron is lacking POV content and how it's limiting the success of Icron's program. You'll learn how many content marketers are great at creating account awareness, thought leadership content, but they lack the knowledge and know-how to create content that drives stage progression, enables buyers, and supports sales. 

In this episode of the Scaling Japan Podcast, we welcome Bela Schweiger, President and CEO of Enter Japan K.K. Bela brings over 20 years of leadership experience at global firms including The Coca-Cola Company, Nokia, Häagen-Dazs, and L'Oréal.Bela shares essential insights on how retail distribution works in Japan, including the roles of trading houses, drugstores, convenience stores, and corporate buyers. He also provides practical strategies for handling Japanese distributor inquiries and how to pitch your brand effectively in a market known for its high standards and relationship-driven business culture.If you're aiming to launch or expand your consumer product in Japan, this episode is a must-listen for learning how to enter and grow in Japan's highly structured retail landscape.---AIM B2B – Integrated Marketing & PR in AsiaThis episode is sponsored by Custom Media, Tokyo's leading integrated marketing and PR agency since 2008, helping global brands expand across Japan and APAC.They can help you with:Localized storytelling to build trust in Asian marketsStrategic performance marketing for measurable growthAccount‑based marketing (ABM), paid media, GEO, and SEOHubSpot‑certified CRM & marketing automationData‑driven implementation with cultural expertiseLearn more about AIM B2BShow Notes:0:00 – Introduction1:11 – Overview of Retail Distribution in Japan8:03 – Major Beverage Brands of Japan15:35 – Role of Trading Houses (Sogo Shosha)26:01 – How to Handle Inquiries and Leads from Japanese Distributors33:57 – Comparing Corporate vs. Small Retail Partners37:18 – Growth of Drug Stores and Convenience Stores as Retail Channels40:21 – How to Localize Marketing for Japanese Consumers44:01 – Tips on How to Pitch Your Brand in Japan49:14 – Key Takeaways from Bela SchweigerLinks from Guest Appearance:

Continuing our Account Based Prospecting expert series, in this episode, Samis joined by Mason Cosby, founder and CEO of Scrappy ABM, to discuss the intricacies of account-based marketing (ABM) and its application in recruitment.Throughout the conversation, they cover a lot of ground:From exploriing the importance of niching down, to identifying the right audience, and some of the challenges organizations face when implementing ABM strategies. Mason shares tactical steps for building an effective ABM program, emphasizing his 4D approach. We're not being cheeky when we say these are assets and advice you'd typically have to pay someone to give you — so listen, take notes, and be well on your way to improving your marketing and prospecting efforts...just. like. that. Chapters:00:00 - Why ABM is the ultimate growth tool for modern recruiters06:12 - Beyond spray and pray: Evaluating your recruitment lead generation09:05 - Is your recruiting agency ready for account-based marketing?16:10 - How to build your ABM strategy for client acquisition35;01 - How to find and leverage data to build your ideal client profile41:50 - From data to deal: Activating your ABM client prospecting54:05 - Beyond placements: Calculating the ROI of your ABM strategyExplore all our episodes and catch the full video experience at loxo.co/podcastBecoming a Hiring Machine is brought to you by Loxo. To discover more about us, just visit loxo.co

In this episode, Vinnie sits down with ABM marketing expert Melinda Stuart to tackle one of B2B marketing's most misunderstood concepts: go-to-market strategy. What starts as a discussion about business language misuse quickly evolves into a deeper conversation about how marketers can remain strategically relevant in an AI-driven world. Melinda breaks down why go-to-market has become a buzzword that's lost its true meaning, and shares practical advice for B2B marketers who want to move beyond tactics to drive real organisational alignment. This episode is essential listening for anyone tired of seeing "go-to-market" slapped onto job titles without the strategic foundation to back it up. Guest Introduction Melinda Stuart is Enterprise Marketing Lead at Optus and a Marketing and Communications Leader with extensive experience in global and APAC markets. With over two decades of international experience and more than ten years in the technology sector spanning cloud, communications, and software, Melinda has successfully shaped go-to-market strategies across various new territories and verticals. She's worked in both agency and client-side roles, including previous positions at Macquarie Telecom and InterSystems, and serves as an advisor to organisations of varying sizes, particularly within the technology space. Key Topics The real definition of go-to-market strategy – Why it's a cross-functional, organisational approach, not just a marketing functionWhy marketers are taking on GTM responsibility – The rise of growth marketers and how stakeholder fatigue leads to siloed decision-makingThe critical question every marketer should ask – "Who do I need to get in a room?" before taking on go-to-market responsibilitiesStrategy vs tactics in the age of AI – How the abundance of marketing tools is creating more tacticians than strategistsSocial selling as part of account-based marketing – Using executive branding and authentic content to demonstrate growth within target accountsStaying relevant in an AI world – Why human strategic thinking remains the competitive differentiator for the next decadeThe importance of cross-functional collaboration – Breaking out of the marketing corner to ask questions and align with other teams Resources & Links Vinnie's article in Mediaweek: Stop selling tactics as strategy: The dangerous misuse of business languageAdam Turinas – Healthcare ABM specialist and founder of Health LaunchpadDr Catherine Ball – Futurist, Associate Professor at Australian National University, and author of "Converge"Vinnie Romano on LinkedIn – Host and executive branding specialistMelinda Stuart on LinkedIn – Guest and Enterprise Marketing Lead at Optus Subscribe to the xG Weekly Newsletter for weekly insights on B2B growth across APAC: https://xgrowth.com.au/newsletter Contact & Credits Host: Vinnie Romano Guest: Melinda Stuart Produced by: Shahin Hoda and Alexander Hipwell Edited by: Alexander Hipwell Music by: Breakmaster Cylinder APAC's B2B Growth Podcast is Presented by xGrowth

In this episode, we're joined by Sander van Gelderen, CMO at Effectory, an employee listening solution platform helping organizations measure and improve engagement, enablement, and productivity at scale, serving 700+ recurring customers across the Benelux, DACH, and now the Nordics. We spoke with Sander about how Effectory transformed from a project-based consultancy into a recurring revenue SaaS business and how his team is reshaping their go-to-market motion through Account-Based Experience (ABX). The goal? Closing the gap between marketing and sales, reducing waste, and targeting only the accounts truly in-market. Here are some of the key questions we address: What is ABX and how does it differ from ABM in practice? How do you unify marketing and sales targeting to remove friction? What were the warning signs that the traditional MQL model wasn't working? How do you implement ABX without losing velocity or your team's trust? What process and tech changes are required to make ABX work? How should marketing compensation evolve in an ABX world? What are the real trade-offs and pitfalls no one talks about?

The revelation that shattered systems thinking: Replacing every combustion car with electric vehicles improves urban efficiency by only 6%—revealing why isolated optimizations fail in complex ecosystems.Dr. Parfait Atchadé from MIT Media Lab discovered this through quantum-enhanced urban modeling in Boston's Kendall Square. His breakthrough: humanized AI agents with emotional architectures that "live" in virtual cities for decades of compressed time, then vote on configurations—exposing the systematic failure of single-variable optimization. Paradigm Shifts:→ The Single-Solution Trap: Complex systems require the vast majority of improvements from interconnected changes—individual optimizations create illusion of progress while missing systemic impact→ Quantum Superposition Planning: Test multiple city configurations simultaneously rather than sequential scenarios—compress 40 years of urban experience into months of simulation→ Agents with Feelings: AI agents embedded with emotional models (joy, fear, anger, sadness) provide qualitative experience data impossible to capture from human stakeholders→ Portfolio Voting Revolution: Beyond binary decisions—split voting percentages across options like investment portfolios, enabling nuanced collective optimization→ Traditional systems modeling: Sequential scenario testing vs. Quantum approach: Parallel reality simulation with dramatic efficiency gainsThe Innovation: Humanized Agent-Based Modeling (h-ABM) creates digital beings with memory, perception, and emotional responses that navigate virtual systems, accumulating experiences and providing stakeholder insights traditional analytics cannot capture.Strategic Application: Any complex ecosystem requiring multi-stakeholder optimization—from organizational transformation to supply chain design—can leverage quantum-enhanced modeling with emotionally-intelligent agents.Strategic Reframe: The most adaptive ecosystems will shift from asking "How do we optimize individual components?" to understanding: "How do we architect systems where quantum-enhanced agents can help us reveal the hidden interdependencies that single-solution approaches systematically miss?"#EcosystemicFutures #QuantumComputing #SystemsThinking #UrbanPlanning #MIT #ComplexSystems #AgentBasedModelingGuest: Dr. Parfait Atchadé, Research Affiliate, MIT Media Lab | Strategic Business Officer, Lighthouse DIGHost: Marco Annunziata, Co-founder, Annunziata & Desai AdvisorsSeries Hosts: Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin WorksEcosystemic Futures is provided by NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project in collaboration with Shoshin Works.

In this AI Quick Takes episode, I review one of the most intriguing recent developments in AI - OpenAI's introduction of ChatGPT Agent. I break down what makes ChatGPT Agent fundamentally different from the ChatGPT we're all familiar with.I also explore how this could be applied in healthcare marketing. For example, whether you're launching a new RevCycle solution upgrade or running ABM campaigns, the agent could handle everything from competitive research to creating personalized messaging at scale. The possibilities are genuinely exciting, though I noted that even Sam Altman seemed cautious about what they're unleashing, which tells you something about the power of this technology.Key Topics Covered“(00:00:00) Introduction & ChatGPT Agent Overview”“(00:01:30) Core Capabilities Breakdown”“(00:03:00) Healthcare Use Case: Revenue Cycle Research”“(00:07:00) Marketing Applications”“(00:09:00) Why This Is Different & Personalization Possibilities”“(00:11:00) Closing Thoughts & Next Steps”Interested in exploring how to improve your AI enablement strategy? Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call—just an opportunity to talk through your LinkedIn questions and challenges.Subscribe to The HealthTech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!

Sick of trade shows that cost a fortune but never drive real pipeline? If your events strategy feels more like a brand awareness play than a revenue engine, this episode will help you flip the script. In this episode of Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast titled “B2B Events That Close Deals: Strategies for Relationship-First Growth,” host Kerry Curran sits down with Meghan Lavin, VP of Marketing at Choreograph. With 15 years of experience leading events, content, and field strategy, Meghan shares how B2B marketers can drive measurable impact through smart, strategic event planning. She pulls back the curtain on what really works—beyond the booth: How to set goals and budgets that align with sales cycles and AOV What to ask for when negotiating sponsorships (and what not to sign) Creative ways to build hosted events that convert, even with limited budget How to train event staff so your booth doesn't fumble the first impression The power of post-event follow-up and content to keep relationships warm

#271 GTM Engineering | In this episode, Dave is joined by John Short, CEO of Compound Growth Marketing, along with Cammy Keiler, Justin Johnson, and Dan Guenet. Together, they break down the rise of GTM engineering, what it is, how it differs from RevOps, and why B2B teams are investing in it.Dave and the crew cover:The core difference between RevOps and GTM engineering (and why the latter is more focused on building than just integrating)Real GTM engineering use cases, from AI-powered sales tools to mid-funnel campaigns that go way beyond ebooksHow GTM engineers are driving higher revenue per employee and why this role should be one of your first five marketing hiresWhether you're hiring or just GTM-curious, you'll leave this episode with a clear definition of the role, real-world examples, and tactical ways GTM engineers drive impact.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:33) - – Why this topic resonated with 1,200+ registrants (05:48) - – What even is **GTM engineering? (08:03) - – GTM engineering vs. RevOps vs. Marketing Ops (11:18) - – How AI is driving this role forward (14:28) - – Real examples: ABM campaigns, mid-funnel tools, sales call analysis (19:38) - – Tools GTM engineers are using today (Clay, Unify, GPTs) (23:03) - – Role of GTM engineering in revenue per employee (27:18) - – How GTM engineers enable sales + reduce headcount (31:33) - – What Dan actually does all day as a GTM engineer (36:23) - – Custom GPTs for sales and marketing teams (39:38) - – What MCP servers are (and why they matter) (44:08) - – Claude, Gamma, and AI-powered content systems (46:53) - – Why this isn't just PLG (or ABM, or RevOps) (50:43) - – When to hire a GTM engineer (53:23) - – Big feelings about the role (and why they exist) (55:33) - – Closing thoughts + what to take away Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Walnut.Why are we pouring all this effort into marketing just to push buyers to a “request a demo” or “contact sales” button?Come on, today's buyers don't want to talk to sales right away. They want to explore your product themselves, see how it works, and understand its value before booking a meeting.That's where Walnut comes in.Walnut empowers marketers and GTM teams to create interactive, self-guided product experiences in minutes. Embed these experiences on your site, in emails, or anywhere in your funnel to let buyers engage on their terms, from awareness to close and beyond. That's the beauty of Walnut - you're getting a platform that your sales and CS colleagues can use to showcase the product too.And the best part? You get real intent data—see which features prospects love, where they drop off, and what's actually driving pipeline. Demo Qualified Leads are the new MQL.Over 500 companies, like Adobe and NetApp, use Walnut to drive 2-3x higher website conversion rates and 7 figures in pipeline on a yearly basis. So do you want to drive more leads, shorten sales cycles, and actually show your product instead of hiding it behind another typical B2B CTA? Go check out Walnut.io. And if you tell them Dave from Exit 5 sent you, they'll build out your first demo for free!

Trade shows and events are back!But most still miss the point. If you're not walking away with real relationships and revenue potential, you're doing it wrong.Hey there, I'm Kerry Curran—B2B Revenue Growth Executive Advisor, Industry Analyst, and host of Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast.In this episode, Pipeline in Person: How Relationship-First Events Drive Real ROI, we're diving into how the smartest B2B brands are getting off the expo floor and into curated conversations that actually convert.I'm joined by Jon Whitfield, Chief Operating Officer at MediaPost, who has spent over 20 years perfecting the art of high-impact, face-to-face marketing. Jon isn't just running another event company—he's building a reputation for delivering summit experiences that sponsors rebook year after year because they drive pipeline, not just visibility.And here's the surprising truth: smaller, niche gatherings with the right ratio of buyers to sponsors consistently outperform massive trade shows—if you get the format right. Jon breaks down why most conferences fail to deliver ROI—and how to fix it.We cover:The one customer value metric sponsors should use to justify their spend How curated experiences like golf, axe throwing, and roundtables deepen buyer trust What brand-side marketers actually want from events in a post-remote world And how to build stronger sponsor-attendee matchmaking and content alignment Picture this: instead of awkward badge scans, you're having real conversations over dinner, sharing challenges in closed-door roundtables, and walking away with warm leads who already know, like, and trust you.Stay to the end, where Jon shares his one non-negotiable rule for evaluating event ROI—and how to spot a conference worth investing in before you spend a dollar.If you're investing in events this year, this episode is your edge.Hit follow, drop a rating, and share it with your field marketing or partnerships lead—because pipeline starts before the pitch.Let's go!Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:02.296):So welcome, Jon. Please introduce yourself and share your background and expertise.Jon Whitfield (00:07.832):Well, hello, Kerry. Thanks for having me on. My name is Jon Whitfield. I'm the Chief Operating Officer over at MediaPost. I've been there for a long time—I didn't realize you could be at a place for as long as 22 years. Apparently, there are other places you can work. I didn't know that. No one ever told me. I just learned that you can get other jobs at other places.Yeah, I've been at MediaPost for 22 years. I've seen a lot of things change over the years, and yeah, we're thrilled just to still be kicking and doing our thing.Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:46.176):Excellent. Well, I know you've become the expert at events, and in my own experience with MediaPost, you've curated a really valuable experience for both brands, attendees, and sponsors. I want to dive into your expertise and help marketers and sponsors get more out of their conferences—and really think about what that investment looks like.We're seeing more and more value put into face-to-face relationship-building and brand-building. Conferences offer that, right? Talk about how you've seen the industry evolve and what you're seeing today.Jon Whitfield (01:38.716):Yeah, I mean, it's funny. When I first started out in this business, you had real tentpole events—like the ad:techs and the SESs of the world—that had 300 exhibitors and thousands of attendees. These were real, large gatherings that happened several times a year. If you weren't at those—whether as an exhibitor or an attendee—you kind of didn't exist. It was like, “We've got to be there.”So in the early 2000s and through the first decade of the new millennium, those large shows were really commonplace and important.We participated not only as exhibitors but also by launching our own conference series called OMMA Global, which had a couple of thousand people, 150 exhibitors, and was a two-day, multi-track content event. It was a big lift. It wasn't easy to put together or manage.But after five or six years of doing that, we realized it was really difficult to go back to our sponsor pool and guarantee them the ROI they were looking for. Because with large events, you're not really in control of the experience. You're kind of leaving it to chance: maybe someone good stops by a booth, maybe there's a follow-up, maybe someone connects at the cocktail party, maybe someone attends the sponsored presentation.Sometimes you get four people in the room, sometimes 50—you're just not in control. Over time, we learned that the more control you have over the experience—and the more you're involved in it—the more satisfied everyone will be: sponsors, attendees, everyone.Kerry Curran, RBMA (03:28.800):Right.Jon Whitfield (04:15.984):Exactly. And so, we just evolved. You've still got the big tentpole events like CES that serve a purpose. But I don't know many people in advertising or marketing who come back from CES saying, “I got a ton of business from that.”You want to be seen there, like at Cannes. These large shows are viable, but as a business, we found we couldn't deliver on the experience we promised. That's why we transitioned to smaller settings, like our Summit Series.Kerry Curran, RBMA (05:15.244):Yeah, and I've been to a number of your events as well as the big shows. I agree—both as a sponsor and as an attendee—with the smaller, more niche, intimate events, relationship-building becomes much more organic. You're on the bus to dinner, at happy hour, or even horseback riding. There's so much more opportunity to build meaningful relationships.Jon Whitfield (05:46.884):Yeah, in a smaller setting, you really get to know people. It's almost like dating. They're testing you out, seeing how you are in different environments, and you're a direct reflection of the business you're there to represent.When the event ends, they have a pretty good sense of, “Do I want to work with this person?” Or maybe, “That didn't really work out.” You don't get that level of intimacy when you're just scanning badges at a big conference. You're not getting that.So we value time spent in different environments—not just in a conference room, but also on the bus, during a golf round, throwing axes, horseback riding, whatever it is. You really see people's true selves in those environments, and that translates into better business relationships. At least, that's what we think.Kerry Curran, RBMA (07:04.492):Yeah, no—and again, I've loved it. I often describe your events as almost like destination weddings. By the end of three days, you're best friends with everyone. You've cultivated a really unique culture within your events, where the sponsors all get to know each other, and everyone's been so willing to have conversations and learn from each other.Jon Whitfield (07:43.888):Absolutely. It's something we've tinkered with for years. It's never perfect. Things happen—weather, logistics—that can muddy things up. But if you have the basic formula down and you've tried it enough times, you can predict, “This is going to be a good one.”We've been doing our Email Summit for 19 years, twice a year. We've been doing our Performance Marketing Summit (formerly Search & Performance) for 19 years. These are tried-and-true programs.And I always ask our sponsors: What's a customer worth to you? What do we need to do to deliver not just one, but two, three, four customers? We want to knock it out of the park. If a customer is worth more than their investment, that's great—I can deliver that. But if the customer value is low and the investment is high, that's a math problem.So we work backward from that. How do we get each supporter to a place of success? That's how we approach it.Jon Whitfield (09:11.312):That's great—because I can deliver that. But if they're investing a ton and their customer value is very low, then there's a math problem, right? So it's about figuring out how we get those individuals who support our events to a place of success. That's how we approach it. We start kind of backward and move forward—and then do our best to deliver on the promise.Kerry Curran, RBMA (09:35.087):Yeah, no, that makes so much sense. And it's smart to think of it that way. Everyone needs ROI on their investments. So when you're talking to sponsors—say a new ad tech, martech, or agency reaches out and wants to sponsor—what are they usually looking for in a conference experience?Jon Whitfield (09:58.756):Well, it kind of depends on what the product is. Some of our sponsors have a more technical platform or need more time to explain their value—they might need a visual or demo. So they might want to sponsor a presentation where they get 10 minutes to show and educate everyone on who they are, what they do, and why they matter in the overall ecosystem.Others don't need that much time. They're like, “Here's what we do, here are a few of our customers, and we'd like to sponsor the brewery tour,” or “Let's take everyone on a cool boat ride.” It's more about creating a memorable experience and attaching your name to something we've built—where all boats rise. You mentioned competitors—at our events, sponsors often become frenemies. They all understand they're there for the same reason. So we keep it positive. Let's all try to win. There's no reason to make it awkward.So yeah, it really depends on what the sponsor is trying to achieve. We just recommend what we know works, based on years and years of doing these.Kerry Curran, RBMA (11:28.674):Yeah, and I like what you pointed out about branding and associating your brand with the audience. Especially in B2B, that's such a challenge. So many brands I talk to are focused on lower funnel—"I just need the sales"—but they forget their audience has to have heard of them and liked them first. The conference environment is a really effective and efficient way to do that.Jon Whitfield (11:59.534):Exactly. You also asked me earlier about how things have evolved over time—and, of course, we had this little thing called COVID in between. We were doing fine leading into it, but coming out of COVID was rough. We couldn't do in-person events, so we pivoted to virtual—Zoom events, video panels. They were fine for keeping the community connected, but nothing compares to in-person relationship-building.In 2021, 2022, and 2023, I'd start each show by asking the audience, “Raise your hand if this is your first summit.” A lot of hands would go up. Then I'd ask, “Are you still primarily working remotely?” And again—almost everyone raised their hands.And if I asked today, I'd still get a majority. So when we talk about the viability of events—how are you going to meet people if no one's in an office anymore? Are you going to go to their house? Meet at a local Starbucks? At some point, it lands back on events. And yeah, we've been fortunate to benefit from that shift.Kerry Curran, RBMA (13:15.752):Yeah.Jon Whitfield (13:25.592):I still think there's this broad shift away from full-time, in-office work. And that really emphasizes the value of in-person gatherings—big or small.Kerry Curran, RBMA (13:41.239):I completely agree. And vendors can't do lunch-and-learns like they used to, either—not if the agency or brand team is fully remote or just more dispersed. So conferences become a valuable way to introduce your brand, tease interest, and build toward a deeper sales conversation or demo.Now, we've talked about sponsors. But the other critical audience is the attendees. Your target audience is brand-side marketers across different industries and verticals. From their perspective, what are they looking for in a conference? What do they find at MediaPost?Jon Whitfield (14:41.604):When brands come together at our events, they're looking for like-minded individuals going through similar challenges. You might have someone who runs email for American Airlines sitting next to someone managing email for a restaurant chain—and they're facing the same problems.It might be deliverability. It might be creative. It might be open rates. That's just one example, but a lot of marketers want a platform where they can share ideas, collaborate, trade war stories, and ask questions—even what they think might be dumb questions—in a safe environment where they'll get real help and honest answers.So when they get back to the office on Monday, they're equipped with real insights and action items. That's the big thing.The sponsors—the vendors and platforms—provide the tools. They're the ones building solutions to help marketers do their jobs better.I always say this at our conferences: MediaPost doesn't really provide a takeaway in the traditional sense—no binders, no decks. The takeaway is the connection. It's the chance to meet tech solution providers who are working hard to make marketers' lives easier and more effective.We create the space for those connections to happen—in an intimate way, where people can really spend time together, share ideas, riff off each other, and see where it goes.I think that's what our buyers—the marketers—really want. And here's the thing: they get calls all the time from our sponsors before the event and they never answer the phone. They're busy people. But then they come to the event and say, “Oh my god, you've been calling me for months. I never picked up. But I watched your presentation—it was amazing. Let's set up a test next week.”We hear that story over and over again. It's not that marketers don't want to learn about these technologies—it's that their day-to-day is packed. So events give them the breathing room to explore.Kerry Curran, RBMA (17:08.846):Yeah, definitely. And to your point, it's so important for marketers to stay on top of the latest technology, platforms, publishers. You give them an environment to learn from peers and providers. You also do a great job balancing content and networking. Talk a bit about your approach to content and the roundtables.Jon Whitfield (17:56.014):Yeah. All of our content is built for the marketer—the buyer, the brand-side attendee. Our panels, our keynotes, anything that's not sponsored is programmed with that in mind.We want to highlight best practices and challenges from the main stage so that people can identify with what's being shared. That content sets the stage for deeper conversations later—whether it's during an activity, a reception, or dinner. It plants seeds that grow over three days.These aren't one-day fly-in events. You're invested. You're present. You're there to grow. From a content perspective, we always ask the marketer or agency side: What are your struggles? What are your wins? What lessons can you share?Kerry Curran, RBMA (18:53.730):Yeah.Jon Whitfield (19:23.664):And then, when it's a sponsor's turn—okay, you've got 10 minutes—riff on what you heard. Build on it if you want. But mostly, tell us who you are, what you do, what value you offer. We want a pitch. Show us the dashboard. Show us who your customers are. Be clear.That's how we do it. We don't cross-pollinate the content. You've spoken at our events—you know we keep it church and state. We program the editorial content. And we expect sponsors to bring equally valuable content that's insightful and impactful.That's how we create a full, engaging morning of sessions.Kerry Curran, RBMA (20:28.556):Absolutely. And you do a great job curating senior-level speakers and timely themes that reflect what marketers in those verticals are really facing.I've always found that valuable. And one of my favorite parts? Your roundtables. Like you always say—mics off, real talk. That's when people ask the questions they're afraid to ask on stage. And it's just as valuable for the sponsors—they get to hear firsthand what their audience is struggling with and start a meaningful conversation right then and there.Jon Whitfield (21:51.652):Yep.Kerry Curran, RBMA (21:56.417):It's all about building real, mutually beneficial relationships—and you've created a space that does that so well.Jon Whitfield (22:05.208):Thanks. And yeah—we've had feedback that if we could run an entire summit with just roundtables, people would love it. They're so impactful. You turn off the cameras, and people get honest.Unfortunately, there are only so many hours in the day, but those roundtables consistently get top marks in our post-show surveys.Kerry Curran, RBMA (22:41.484):I believe it.Kerry Curran, RBMA (22:41.484):I definitely agree. Jon, this has been incredibly helpful. I think it's important for everyone listening to be reminded just how valuable event investments can be—from education to relationship-building to, ultimately, driving sales.So for those tuning in who want to ramp up their event strategy—or need to build a business case for budget from their CFO—what's your recommendation for getting started?Jon Whitfield (23:18.244):Start by comparing the costs. What's your total investment going to be to sponsor an event? It's not inexpensive. There's travel, hotels, time. If you're a vendor or sponsor, it's not the cheapest thing in the world.So go back to that question: What's a customer worth to you?How are you currently getting customers? Are you converting through digital-only channels? Maybe you're just selling widgets and don't need in-person interaction. Fine. But if you're in a consultative or technical sale where FaceTime matters, then events are going to pay dividends.If you're trying to decide which events to support, here's what I tell people: Look at whether the sponsors from two or three years ago are still coming back. If they're not, run for the hills. That's a red flag. It means the experience didn't deliver.Look at our Email Insider Summit. We've been running it for 19 years. And for at least the past 10, you'll see many of the same companies sponsoring over and over. That doesn't happen by accident. It takes hard work. You have to care deeply about the experience and the investment people are making—your sponsors, your ticket buyers.That's something we believe in strongly. Maybe that's why we're still around. But yeah—do your homework. Know what a customer is worth to you. Run the numbers. You have to get ROI from these things. That's just the bottom line.Kerry Curran, RBMA (25:36.471):I totally agree. And one thing to level-set with your CFO is: you're probably not going to see ROI immediately. Depending on what you're selling, it might be three to six months down the road.If you come home without a signed contract, it doesn't mean it wasn't a success—it just means you're playing a longer game.And I know you also do a great job customizing sponsor opportunities at your events.Jon Whitfield (26:18.788):Yeah, it's all about knowing who you are as a company. What do you want to be known for? Is it education? Is it fun? Is it gifts?Every brand has its own playbook. That's why we offer a variety of sponsorship options—because everyone has a different goal when they come to an event.Kerry Curran, RBMA (26:59.630):Exactly. There's so much flexibility. One-on-one meetings. Content partnerships. Webinars. Lots of ways to extend the experience beyond the event.And one more thing we didn't touch on—brand attendees. You have some great senior-level VIP opportunities, right?Jon Whitfield (27:21.668):Absolutely. For this model to work, we need a strong brand-side presence—decision-makers, people with media and marketing budgets, people who want to network and learn.That's the lifeblood of our business. And we're always looking to bring in new marketers doing interesting things.That's part of what keeps this exciting. Even something as “old” as email is constantly evolving. There are always new tools and trends—whether it's AI, chatGPT, TikTok, or whatever else is coming.So yeah, we need marketers who want to tell their stories, who want to improve, and who want to meet others doing the same.Kerry Curran, RBMA (29:21.070):And that's how you pitch it to your boss. “Yes, I'm going to Amelia Island—but look who else will be there. Look at the brands and tech providers I'll be learning from.” You come back with insights and a full notebook, and your higher-ups will be glad you went.Jon Whitfield (29:47.044):Exactly. And yes—senior marketers can qualify for our VIP passes. We have a set number of those for each event. Once they're gone, they're gone.We also cap the total audience to keep the buyer-to-seller ratio balanced—usually around 1:1. It's typically 90–100 people: half brand-side, half sponsors. That way, everyone gets time to connect. And if by day three you haven't met who you need to meet—you stayed in your room too long!Kerry Curran, RBMA (30:48.834):Well, I can say I'm still close with many of the marketers and vendors I've met at your events. I always recommend your summits because they're high-value, well-structured, and genuinely productive.So, Jon—if someone wants to get in touch to learn more, how can they find you?Jon Whitfield (31:29.036):Well, not that I need more email—but you can reach me at Jon@MediaPost.com. If you're interested in sponsorships, my right-hand man Seth Oilman is your guy—Seth@MediaPost.com. He's our CRO and runs the sponsorship side.Reach out, and I'll point you in the right direction.Kerry Curran, RBMA (31:54.624):Excellent. We'll include all of that in the show notes—and make sure everyone mentions they heard you here!Jon Whitfield (32:02.552):Thanks again, Kerry. You've been such a great supporter and advocate for years. We appreciate all you've done—and don't stop!Kerry Curran, RBMA (32:17.550):Thanks, Jon. I believe in what you're doing and love being part of it. Can't wait to see you again soon!Jon Whitfield (32:30.884):You got it. Can't wait.Thanks again to Jon Whitfield for pulling back the curtain on what makes events actually drive results. Here's what we're walking away with: big expos can generate visibility, but intimate events create trust and conversions. ROI starts with one question—what's a customer worth to you? Events should be evaluated not just on cost, but on continuity, brand fit, and customer alignment.If this sparked ideas for your event or sponsor strategy, share it with your team—and let us know what resonated. Don't forget to subscribe, review, and follow Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast. To learn more, visit revenuebasedmarketing.com and follow me, Kerry Curran, on LinkedIn. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

In this episode, Dan Czech, Vice President of Insights at KLAS, and my colleague Mark Ewrich, Chief Strategy Officer at Health Launchpad, and I discuss a  “Must-Read” study, “Navigating the Uncertainty of Federal Policy 2025.”Dan and his team at KLAS surveyed almost 170 healthcare organizations to understand how they're responding to recent federal policy changes and budget uncertainties.In this week's episode, you will learn how healthcare organizations are navigating through shifting federal policies without clear direction. The study reveals that 90% of organizations feel they lack the clarity needed to act decisively, and 85% have developed multiple contingency plans to respond to policy changes.Dan, Mark, I talked through the five key themes from this study. They have significant implications for healthcare technology vendors. Most surprisingly, despite all the uncertainty, IT budgets aren't being frozen - they're being redirected toward specific priorities like AI, automation, and cybersecurity. Organizations are looking for solutions that can help them reduce workforce costs while maintaining the quality of care.Mark provides insightful commentary throughout our discussion on how healthcare technology companies should position themselves in this environment - focusing on de-risking solutions, demonstrating clear ROI, and aligning with the specific areas where organizations are still willing to invest.This study is essential reading for anyone selling into healthcare right now, as it provides a roadmap for understanding where opportunities still exist despite the challenging environment.Key Topics Covered:(00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:00) Contingency Planning(00:05:00) Theme 1: Planning Through the Fog(00:07:00) Theme 2: Policy Shifts Drive Hard Choices(00:11:00) Theme 3: IT Budgets Redirected, Not Frozen(00:15:00) Theme 4: AI as the Bright Spot(00:19:00) Theme 5: Value-Based Care Momentum(00:24:00) Theme 6: Small Organizations at Greater Risk(00:26:00) Closing Thoughts and TakeawaysKLAS Report: Government and Regulatory Impact on Healthcare Delivery Organizations 2025Want to learn more about planning for changing regulations? Explore this topic in greater depth in our detailed blog post. We provide a dozen actionable best practices. Check it out.Interested in exploring how to improve your podcasting strategy? Reach out to Adam directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call—just an opportunity to talk through your LinkedIn questions and challenges.Subscribe to The HealthTech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!

It's never been harder to be a CMO—and never more important to get it right. Budgets are shrinking, burnout is rising, and the pressure to deliver pipeline and prove impact hasn't let up. If you're still trying to lead through this alone, you're already behind.Hey there, I'm Kerry Curran, B2B Chief Revenue Officer, Industry Analyst, and host of Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast.In Scale Smarter Under Pressure: How CMOs Win with Peer Collaboration, I'm joined by Kathleen Booth, SVP of Marketing and Growth at Pavilion. We talk about how today's most effective CMOs are navigating change, pressure, and AI disruption—without losing their edge. Kathleen shares what she's seeing across Pavilion's global network of go-to-market leaders and why the ones still winning are focused on three essential pillars:Profitable, efficient growth AI for go-to-market Personal transformation Because resilience isn't a luxury anymore—it's a leadership requirement.We also dive into what makes GTM25, Pavilion's flagship event, different from any other conference out there—and why it's a must-attend for marketing and revenue leaders looking to scale smarter in 2026 and beyond.Be sure to stay tuned to the end, where Kathleen shares a powerful mindset shift that redefines what it means to be a modern CMO—and how to become the strategic growth architect your business needs now.If you get value from this episode, hit follow, drop a quick rating, and send it to someone in marketing, sales, or the C-suite who needs to hear it. Let's go.Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:01.417)Welcome, Kathleen. Please introduce yourself and share your background and expertise.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (00:06.382)Hey Kerry, thanks for having me on the show. My name is Kathleen Booth. I am the SVP of Marketing and Growth at Pavilion, a global private membership community for go-to-market executives. Our mission is to help go-to-market leaders succeed in their careers at a time when tenures are notoriously short and the pressure is extremely high.Kerry Curran, RBMA (00:33.417)Excellent. Thank you so much for joining today, Kathleen. As we've discussed, I'm a bit obsessed with Pavilion right now. There are so many smart examples, learnings, coursework—just tons of content to up-level executives. But what I love is that it emphasizes that marketing, sales, and customer success must work together to drive revenue and business growth. I know you're talking to a lot of CMOs, CROs, and customer success executives. What are you really hearing today? What are the challenges or what does the marketplace look like for them?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (01:19.086)The theme word of the year is “uncertainty.” We get a lot of feedback from our members and more broadly. We're living through a time of tremendous pressure on go-to-market leaders in general—and CMOs in particular. It wouldn't be a podcast if we didn't mention AI.Artificial intelligence is transforming everything so quickly, it's difficult to find solid ground. As soon as you think you understand something, it changes again. Data shows buying complexity is increasing. Leadership turnover is high. Legal, regulatory, and geopolitical instability make it hard to predict even six months out.Recent data from G2 shows vendor shortlists are shrinking—from four to seven options previously, to just one to three now. That makes it harder to even get considered. Marketers have to step up brand awareness and demand, but budgets are under pressure.According to Gartner, only 24% of CMOs say they have enough budget to execute their strategy. Marketing budgets as a percent of total revenue are down 11% from 2020. The challenges are growing, but our toolset is shrinking. Then there's AI. It brings promise—but also complexity.Salesforce found that marketers see AI as both the top opportunity and the top challenge. One person called it a “proble-tunity.” Around 75% of marketers have experimented with AI, and marketing is seen as the most advanced department when it comes to adoption. But only 32% say they're using it adequately.And the result of all of this? Burnout.Gartner's CMO Leadership Vision report shows that marketers facing high levels of change are twice as likely to experience burnout. We're all feeling it. To make it worse, only 14% of CMOs are viewed as effective at shaping markets—a skill that's crucial for hitting revenue targets.All of this suggests the modern CMO must be commercial, creative, and AI-powered. We're in a first-principles moment where we need to rethink what marketing organizations look like, how to build go-to-market motions, and what role AI should play.We can't just be storytellers or data crunchers. We need to be strategic growth architects.Kerry Curran, RBMA (06:10.941)Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. To your point, where the CMO was once seen as the creative or visual lead, now marketing is more directly connected to revenue. McKinsey did a study a year and a half ago saying companies that put marketing at the core of their growth strategy outperform their peers.Then in June, they released another study saying the biggest challenge for CMOs now is getting closer to the CFO—earning respect at the leadership table. And you're right: it can't all be done by AI. It's not just branding and communications anymore. It's more complex—and CMOs have more demands, tighter budgets, and higher expectations.What frustrates me is that it still falls to the CMO to educate the rest of the executive team on the value of marketing. I know Pavilion does a great job helping upskill and educate executives—especially in marketing and sales. What's the solution? How are you solving this? And how should leaders outside of marketing be thinking about it?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (07:49.068)At the start of the year, we identified three cross-cutting themes for the Pavilion community—not just for marketing. And they've held up, even with how much has changed.First is “profitable, efficient growth.” This speaks directly to marketers needing to understand the P&L and get closer to the CFO to make smarter bets.Second is “AI for go-to-market.” Unsurprisingly, we have to lean in. I love that marketers are seen as AI leaders within their organizations. If we can solidify that position, it's not just job security—it's a way to lead from the front. We should be saying, “I'm out ahead of this, and I'm bringing the company with me.”The third theme—maybe a little “woo-woo”—is “personal transformation and resiliency.” Because it is hard. The stress is real. You and I were talking before we started recording about unplugging for vacation. That's not just a luxury—it's essential. We can't teach people how to take care of themselves, but we can remind them that it matters just as much as staying on top of AI.Kerry Curran, RBMA (09:54.183)Yeah, definitely. I love those three pillars—and they truly are cross-cutting. Can you go deeper on how Pavilion is helping marketers in each area? I know you're doing a lot with AI onboarding, upskilling, and coursework. And yes, marketers are definitely carrying the torch there.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (10:24.046)Sure! One way to encapsulate it is with our flagship event: GTM2025. It's happening September 23–25 in Washington, D.C. (you can learn more at attendgtm.com). It brings our members together to share perspectives and preview where our “product”—which is really an experience—is heading.For marketers specifically, we have a dedicated sub-community led by incredible members. They host regular roundtables because—let's be real—the landscape is changing too fast for blogs and newsletters to keep up. You need peers. You need the hive mind.Then, tied to profitable, efficient growth, we have our CMO School—teaching what it takes to be world-class. GTM2025 will feature sessions on P&L fluency, leadership, and more.AI and GTM is a huge theme. The entire conference focuses on “AI and the Future of GTM.” It's not just a buzzword—every speaker is talking about how it's transforming their work. We're also teaching specific courses on building an AI-augmented go-to-market team: tools, workflows, and real-world examples.For the personal transformation side, we're one of the only conferences with a wellness room—sound baths, guided meditations. We also include topics outside the typical ABM and ad campaign tracks. This year, our keynotes reflect that.One I'm super excited about is Will Guidara, author of “Unreasonable Hospitality.” He was GM of Eleven Madison Park—the world's first vegan Michelin-starred restaurant. The book is about how hospitality—not just great food—helped them become the best restaurant in the world. It's surprisingly a business book: process, customer orientation, service. He'll talk about hospitality as a driver of business excellence.Then we have Henry Schuck, CEO of ZoomInfo. They just changed their NASDAQ ticker to GTM—so they're clearly committed to go-to-market alignment. I'm excited to hear his perspective.We'll also feature Noelle Russell, author of “Scaling Responsible AI.” AI is still the Wild West, and we need to understand the guardrails. What are we accountable for as adopters?Finally—and this is a first—we're hosting a geopolitical keynote panel because the event is in D.C. We can't talk go-to-market strategy and ignore what's happening with the economy, regulation, supply chains, tariffs, and labor.Our panel features Josh Barro and Megan McArdle—both independent, balanced journalists—plus one more speaker TBD. They'll focus on facts, implications, and how leaders should incorporate them into strategic planning.And for those who prefer to skip political talk, don't worry—the bar opens early!Kerry Curran, RBMA (17:47.997)Yes! That is so relevant for what's on business leaders' minds—especially CMOs. I love that you're hitting every angle. From hospitality and customer-centricity to AI and global context—it's all interconnected. And I'm especially excited for the Women's Summit the day before.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (19:00.758)Yes! Anne and Lindsay—leaders of our Women of Pavilion community—have built something special. They led our first Women's Summit last year, and it was incredible. This year's agenda is entirely member-driven, sourced from our networks, and centered around the real issues facing female leaders.Kerry Curran, RBMA (19:40.647)Lindsay was a guest on the podcast—she's brilliant. And Anne as well. Every event and session I've attended has been so thoughtful. Kathleen, this has been incredibly valuable. For listeners unfamiliar with Pavilion, can you share what resources and support it provides?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (20:08.110)Of course. Pavilion is a private membership community for go-to-market executives and aspirants. We offer:- A private Slack community with functional groups- 50+ local chapters around the world- Pavilion University (with CMO School, GTM School, AI School, etc.)- Career services, job board, mentorship- Events: GTM, CMO Summit, local dinners, and moreIt's about creating a trusted peer network, providing operator-built education, and fostering connection. That's how we support leaders through this new GTM era.Kerry Curran, RBMA (21:34.439)Totally agree. I joined in March and wish I had joined sooner. The coursework has brought structure and rigor to initiatives I previously had to figure out on my own. The peer learning is incredible. And the dinners are next-level—I'm headed to one in Boston tomorrow. Last time we joked we should build a better CRM on a cocktail napkin.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (22:45.709)I love that.Kerry Curran, RBMA (22:56.605)We're clearly biased, but for those thinking about how to grow and lead in today's GTM world, what should they be focusing on?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (23:15.118)I'll close with some data and advice: 84% of leaders believe their company's identity will need to significantly change in the next five years. That's massive.CMOs are well-positioned to lead that change—if they step up:First, build cross-functional leadership muscles. Pavilion excels at this. It's not just about marketing—it's learning to partner with sales, CS, ops.Second, shape the market. Be the narrative builder and operationalize brand trust. With AI exploding, brand is having a renaissance. CMOs must lead here.Third, guide the customer experience. We've talked about hospitality, but post-sale is more important than ever. Marketing needs to drive loyalty, retention, and evangelism.With AI and product data, we can now create truly personalized journeys—at scale. That opens a world of opportunity.Kerry Curran, RBMA (27:01.095)So many valuable points. Thank you for joining us today, Kathleen! How can people learn more about GTM2025, Pavilion, or connect with you?Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (27:19.886)You can learn more at joinpavilion.com and attendgtm.com. And feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn—just mention you heard this podcast!Kerry Curran, RBMA (27:40.585)Thank you! Looking forward to seeing you in September.Kathleen Booth | Pavilion (27:45.623)I can't wait.Thanks for listening to Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast. If Kathleen's insights resonated with you and you're ready to stop leading in a vacuum, remember this: the best CMOs aren't doing more—they're doing it smarter, together. If you got value from this episode, do me a quick favor: hit follow, leave a rating, and share this with someone in marketing, sales, or the C-suite who needs to hear it.And don't miss the event of the year for go-to-market leaders: GTM2025, hosted by Pavilion. It's where marketing, sales, and customer success executives come together to connect, learn, and lead what's next. Register today at attendgtm.com.If you want more growth frameworks, peer strategies, and go-to-market insights, head to revenuebasedmarketing.com or connect with me, Kerry Curran, on LinkedIn. More powerhouse episodes are coming soon, so stay tuned and keep scaling smart. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

This is episode 777. Read the complete transcript on the Sales Game Changers Podcast website here. In this episode of Marketing for Selling Effectiveness, a sub-series of the Sales Game Changers Podcast, host Fred Diamond and co-host Julie Murphy of Sage Communications welcome a powerhouse guest. Zhenia Klevitsky, Chief Growth Officer at ITC Federal, appears on today's show. One of the key messages that the Institute for Effective Professional Selling (IEPS) strongly communicates is that Sales and Marketing must work stronger together today more than ever before. With two decades of experience in government contracting, Zhenia shares real-world strategies for aligning sales and marketing to win complex, high-stakes federal deals. She explains why the old silos between BD and marketing no longer work and how modern GovCon growth teams must act as a unified revenue engine. You'll learn: ✅ Why mission-first messaging is essential in federal sales ✅ How account-based marketing (ABM) shapes perception long before the RFP ✅ The power of community involvement in building trust with government buyers ✅ Why thought leadership beats traditional capture in today's market  ✅ How AI, automation, and shifting buyer expectations are changing the rules Zhenia also shares a detailed case study on how her team successfully embedded into a tight-knit local community in New Mexico and won a major contract through a bold mix of philanthropy, targeted marketing, and authenticity. Whether you're a B2G sales leader, a marketing strategist, or an executive navigating the federal buying landscape, this episode will challenge you to rethink your approach and embrace true collaboration.

Ab März 2026 soll ein staatliches Siegel auf Verpackungen von Schweinefleisch aus deutscher Produktion informieren, wie das Tier gehalten wurde. Doch für mehr Tierwohl müssten die Haltungsbedingungen nicht nur bekannt sein - sie müssten sich ändern. Pastoors, Tobias www.deutschlandfunk.de, Hintergrund

In this episode of the Healthtech Marketing Podcast, we kick off our new AI Quick Takes series. Adam Turinas explains how generative AI is fundamentally changing search traffic and what healthcare technology marketers need to know about Google's EEAT framework. Drawing from his own experience of declining website traffic despite years of steady growth, Adam explains how AI overviews are reducing organic search traffic while creating new opportunities for brands that understand Google's Experience, Expertise, Authoritativeness, and Trustworthiness signals.The episode offers practical strategies for healthcare technology companies to refine their content marketing approach. Hear real-world examples of how proper EEAT implementation can lead to inclusion in AI overviews and offers actionable advice for maintaining visibility in an AI-driven search landscape.Key Topics Covered:“(00:00:00) Introduction to AI Quick Takes series”“(00:01:00) The challenge AI poses to search traffic and marketing”“(00:04:00) Introduction to EEAT framework”“(00:05:00) The importance of Experience - showcasing real-world implementations”“(00:06:00) Expertise - demonstrating deep subject matter competency”“(00:06:00) Authoritativeness - building reputation and earning citations”“(00:07:00) Trustworthiness - the most important E-E-A-T element according to Google”“(00:09:00) Practical strategies”“(00:13:00) Four key takeaways and expected outcomes from E-E-A-T implementation”“(00:14:00] Call to action and resources for further engagement”Blog article mentioned in this episode.Want to learn more about EEAT? Explore this topic in greater depth in our detailed blog post. We provide a dozen actionable best practices. Check it out.Interested in exploring how to improve your AI strategy? Reach out to Adam directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call—just an opportunity to talk through your AI questions and challenges.Subscribe to The HealthTech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!

I love the movie City Slickers.If you're unfamiliar, Billy Crystal is a Manhattanite, has a midlife crisis, and goes out West on a cattle drive to try to figure life out.Spoiler alert, the crusty old cowboy teaches him that the secret to life is – ‘One thing. Just one thing. You stick to that and everything else don't mean shhh…” Well, you get the idea.It struck me that this is a great brand lesson as well. You've seen the stats – our ideal customer simply gets hammered with messages every day. And there are so many things your internal team could work on. How to break through the noise? How to prioritize? I love what my next guest told me – “If you don't have one clear position of who you are and why they should care, you're just throwing spaghetti at a wall.”To hear the story behind that lesson, along with many more lesson-filled stories, I sat down with Margaret Dawson, CMO, Chronosphere [https://chronosphere.io/].Chronosphere has raised $343 million in three rounds. In its Series C round in 2023, the company was valued at $1.6 billion.Dawson leads global marketing efforts at Chronosphere, overseeing a budget of $12 million and a team of 23 working on digital experience, corporate communications, demand generation, customer marketing, ABM, Marketing Ops, and Product Marketing.Lessons from the things she madeIf you don't have one clear position of who you are and why they should care, you're just throwing spaghetti at a wallSometimes you need to poke the snakeIntegrated marketing moves the needleMentoring is a two-way streetJust because you can do something doesn't mean you shouldDon't focus so much on winning each battle that you lose the warIf you channeled the characteristics that made you so competent and made you authentically you, you would have the greatest powerWe do not serve ourselves or the world by hiding our light or being afraid to stand tallDiscussed in this episodeJoin us on July 30th at 2 pm EDT for AI Hackathon: Build a powerful lead gen agent in just 90 minutes [https://join.meclabsai.com/mec-050-masterclass] (from MeclabsAI, MarketingSherpa's parent company).Outside-In Messaging: Nothing counts more than the language of the customer (podcast episode #75) [https://marketingsherpa.com/article/interview/outside-in-messaging]The 4 Pillars of Email Marketing [https://sherpablog.marketingsherpa.com/email-marketing/4-pillars-email-summit-2014/]Building Brands: People and culture matter a lot, mentorship matters even more, product matters the most (podcast episode #119) [https://marketingsherpa.com/article/interview/brands]Marketing Campaigns: Lose the brand ego and lean into humility (podcast episode #130) [https://marketingsherpa.com/article/interview/marketing-campaigns]Get more episodesSubscribe to the MarketingSherpa email newsletter [https://www.marketingsherpa.com/newsletters] to get more insights from your fellow marketers. Sign up for free if you'd like to get more episodes like this one.For more insights, check out...TApply to be a guestIf you would like to apply to be a guest on How I Made It In Marketing, here is the podcast guest application – https://www.marketingsherpa.com/page/podcast-guest-application

What happens when marketing stops being a support function and starts driving revenue?In this episode, Carlota Feliu, Head of Marketing at HP, shares how modern B2B marketing is evolving — closer to sales, closer to customers, and much closer to impact.Carlota unpacks the blurred line between ABM and demand gen, the real meaning of marketing-sales alignment, and how AI is (and isn't) changing how we work. If you're a marketing leader or aspiring to be one, this conversation is packed with hard-won insights from inside a global org navigating change.You'll learn:→ Why ABM and demand gen are two sides of the same strategy→ How marketing earns its seat at the revenue table→ What it takes to build real alignment between marketing and sales→ How AI can help solve problems without adding noise→ A simple framework (3Rs) to keep brand, relationships, and revenue in balance→ Advice for emerging marketing leaders in today's revenue-driven climate

When everyone's racing to launch big strategies, success takes more than smart tactics. It takes alignment, discipline, and deep cross-functional trust.That's how the heroes in Spidey and His Amazing Friends, the hit animated Marvel kids' show, defeat the villains. In this episode, we unpack marketing lessons from Spidey's universe with the help of our special guest Emily Ferdinando, CMO at Bugcrowd.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from nailing ABM execution, building content grounded in community feedback, and turning shared goals into real, coordinated action.About our guest, Emily FerdinandoEmily Ferdinando is a go-to-market leader with a focus on pipeline and revenue growth. She brings 15 years of GTM leadership experience, specializing in optimizing operational processes and data-driven strategy. With a background in sales and operations, Emily brings a unique approach to Marketing focused on down-funnel impact and top-line growth. Emily joins Bugcrowd from Veracode where she most recently led the Growth Marketing organization. Her background includes leadership roles across the GTM engine, including Global Business Development, GTM Enablement, and Operational Strategy. While there, she led the team through multiple events and two successful exits. Emily lives in New Hampshire with her husband and two young children. She enjoys the outdoors and stretching her creative muscles through painting, fiction writing and guitar.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Spidey and His Amazing Friends:Alignment over silos. In one episode, Spidey, Ghosty, and Miles all chase Rhino with their own plans, each using their powers, none working together. The mission falls apart. “We can say we have the same goal all day, but if we're not aligned on how we get there… that's what it's gonna look like,” Emily says. In marketing and in superhero teams, the difference between success and disaster isn't talent, it's coordination.One-size-fits-all content fits no one. Spidey's world works because it's made for everyone. Each with different powers, personalities, backgrounds, and their own story. That same inclusive mindset should guide your content. “Many people did not fit squarely into one piece,” Emily says. “If we ran our strategy that way, they were missing exposure to a lot of content that was really relevant to them.” Real impact comes from serving the overlaps, not the edges.Simple stories stick. Spidey and His Amazing Friends makes complex ideas—like teamwork, trust, and problem-solving—land through bright colors and clear stakes. For marketers, that's the goal too. “Making internal assumptions without pressure testing with the people who are going to be receiving the output of your team, it's a huge miss,” Emily says. Whether you're leading kids or customers, never assume they're on board. Ask, listen, and build with them.Quote“Spidey and His Amazing Friends, they really teach you what actual in practice, collaboration is supposed to look like and not look like. And it's really as simple as…you step back. We all know what we're supposed to do. It's just really hard in practice sometimes, and sometimes you can learn from the kids' shows. You just step back and go, we know what to do, we just need to do it.”Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Emily Ferdinando, CMO at Bugcrowd[01:00] Why Spidey and His Amazing Friends?[02:20] The Role of a CMO at Bugcrowd[03:00] Origins of Spidey and His Amazing Friends[19:38] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Spidey and His Amazing Friends[29:21] Bugcrowd's ABM Launch[33:30] Repackaging Content for Better Engagement[40:13] Bugcrowd's Content Strategy and Community Engagement[47:20] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Emily on LinkedInLearn more about BugcrowdAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

In this episode of The HealthTech Marketing Show, I welcome Carol Flagg, founder of Answers Media Network and Healthcare IT Radio, to discuss the evolution of podcasting and the emerging trend of video podcasting in healthcare technology marketing.Carol shares her journey from traditional media sales to building a healthcare IT content syndication network and discusses how the podcasting landscape has reached several key tipping points.Our conversation explores practical strategies for healthcare technology companies considering podcast creation, emphasizing the importance of niche targeting, engaging hosts, and leveraging AI tools to streamline production and content repurposing. Discover why video podcasting represents a fresh opportunity to maximize your content investment and how it can serve as a foundation for a modern growth strategy.Key Topics Covered:"(00:00:00) Introduction""(00:04:00) Evolution of podcasting and the key tipping points that shaped the industry""(00:06:30) The current tipping point: video podcasting driven by YouTube's entry""(00:07:00) Technical explanation of video podcast distribution through RSS feeds""(00:08:00) How video podcasts can be distributed to Apple, Spotify, and YouTube simultaneously""(00:10:00) Answers Media Network's business model as a syndication and distribution partner""(00:13:00) Notable shows in the Healthcare IT Radio network""(00:15:00) The reality of podcast audience sizes and engagement challenges""(00:16:00) Why healthcare technology firms should invest in podcasting""(00:19:00) Content repurposing strategies: "Content is king, but syndication is queen"""(00:22:00) Impact of generative AI on content discovery and traffic""(00:23:00) The importance of niche targeting in podcast strategy""(00:26:00) Qualities that make a great podcast: engaging hosts and storytelling""(00:28:00) Using AI tools like Claude for content repurposing and article creation""(00:30:00) YouTube's growing dominance in podcast listening""(00:32:00) Importance of detailed show notes and embedded links for SEO""(00:34:00) Future predictions: video podcasting as the new standard""(00:35:00) Final tips"Want to learn more about how podcasting is changing? Explore this topic in greater depth in our detailed blog post. We provide a dozen actionable best practices. Check it out.Interested in exploring how to improve your podcasting strategy? Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call—just an opportunity to talk through your LinkedIn questions and challenges.Subscribe to The HealthTech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond!

We dig into: The 3-part growth flywheel: Be ready, be memorable, be findable Why most agencies lose before the pitch process even begins The shift from reactive pitching to proactive visibility and relevance What today's clients actually look for when shortlisting agency partners Why clarity, consistency, and conviction in your story are your competitive edge If you're leading new business, driving growth, or rethinking your agency's positioning—this episode is your wake-up call. Flat or slowing revenue? Let's fix that—fast.Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast delivers the proven plays, sharp insights, and “steal-this-today” tactics that high-growth teams swear by.Follow / Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTubeTap ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ if the insights move your metrics—every rating fuels more game-changing episodes

In this episode of the Account-Based Marketing podcast, Heather Adkins shares the art and science of scaling ABM through sector-driven teams, AI-powered agents, and a relentless client focus.

Of all the areas AI is poised to overturn, marketing is at the top of the list. In truth, Silicon Valley has long held marketing is low esteem. Google CEO Eric Schmidt once sniffed that brand marketing is "the last bastion of unaccountable corporate spending." The mathification of marketing will go into hyperdrive, as AI is used to create some kind of agentic ecosystem of bots persuading bots. All of this is great scifi to Anonymous Brand Marketer, a Fortune 500 marketer who sees as much BS as promise in AI's application to marketing. ABM sees it both rationalizing and driving efficiencies in performance marketing while leading to a mini-resurgence in the kinds of brand marketing that connects to humans in ways that a Salesforce agent cannot.

In this episode of the Transform Sales Podcast: Sales Software Review Series, Eddie Bello

Marketing is easy to understand as a Marketer, duh. But to other departments (like Finance, Ops, Sales, etc.), it can be hard to get them to understand WHY your company needs Marketing.  Enter: Steve Stano, a Marketing leader in the financial services space. Sure, not everyone is a Marketer, but he's here to break down how you can get everyone on board, in the loop, and up to date about what Marketing can do.  What does data have to do with it? Turns out, data should be the reason you do anything. You need the numbers to back it up. And as Marketers, it's our job to paint the picture so others understand why we do things.  Plus, what's smarter ABM? We talk about how account-based marketing tactics are evolving based on buying signals and behavior. Whether you're a Marketer at a large company or at a startup, this is the episode for you.  Follow Steve: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevestano/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

This episode features an interview with Suzanne Behrens, CMO at Granicus, a software company that helps better engage governments and the people they serve.Suzanne discusses how Granicus is transforming engagement through AI-driven marketing, investing in digital channels over booths, and ensuring tight sales alignment. Key Takeaways:While procurement processes differ, public sector buyers still seek personalized, digital-first experiences. Meeting them with the right message at the right time is just as critical as in traditional B2B marketing.New tools allow a new level of precision, and marketers needs to stop with mass marketing effort and focus on higher prospects.While events are crucial for many CMOs we speak to, they can also be high cost and it may make more sense to overinvest in digital channels to meet customers where they are.Quote: “  We've got a tech stack with some tools that are AI-enabled, that we've adopted and hosted, that have really helped us more effectively understand buyer's behavior and intent to help us target opportunities more effectively, versus in the past, it used to be mass marketing. You'd sort of throw it out there and hope someone will, you know, call you. It's really now about looking at their behavior and intent to help us target more effectively and personalize the experience and customize from a super ABM perspective of reaching prospects and customers. So, leveraging different tools to help us do that. We're reaching them when they're ready. They're much higher prospect than just sort of casting a wide net.”Episode Timestamps: *(02:36) The Trust Tree: Selling globally to many personas *(05:04) The Playbook: Overinvesting in digital and web*(21:37) The Dust Up: Meeting in the middle*(22:47) Quick Hits: Suzanne's quick hits Sponsor:Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com. Qualified helps you turn your website into a pipeline generation machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable website visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, intent data, and Piper, your AI SDR. Visit Qualified.com to learn more.Links:Connect with Ian on LinkedInConnect with Suzanne on LinkedInLearn more about GranicusLearn more about Caspian Studios

Episode SummaryIn this heartfelt episode, I'm joined by Kylainah Zacharcuk, author of You Can Find Me in Her Shadow: My Sister Has Special Needs and This is My Story. Kylainah opens up about the unique and often complex experience of growing up as the sibling of someone with special needs. We talk about her book, which gives voice to the often-overlooked sibling perspective, and explore the emotional layers that come with love, responsibility, and identity. Kylainah also shares candidly about her own mental health journey. We hear how treatment modalities like Anat Baniel Method NeuroMovement® helped both Kylainah and her sister. Passionate, authentic, and deeply thoughtful, Kylainah brings honesty and heart to this powerful conversation.About KylainahKylainah Zacharcuk currently lives in Southwestern Ontario with her Golden Doodle, Lenny. You Can Find Me in Her Shadow: My Sister Has Special Needs and This is My Story is Kylainah's first novel. In the first week of the book's release, it was on the number-one bestseller list in multiple categories on Amazon Canada. It currently holds five stars and is a recommended must-read.  My book has also been picked up by Barnes & Noble, BAM! Books-A-Million, and Bookshop.org.From This EpisodeGRIN2BBiofeedbackAnat Baniel Method NeuroMovement®Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) Find and Follow Carole and Wisdom Shared:https://www.caroleblueweiss.com/Subscribe to YouTube channelFollow and send a message on FacebookFollow and send a message on LinkedInFollow on InstagramFollow on TikTokFollow on ThreadsThe Wisdom Shared TeamAudio Engineering by Steve Heatherington of Good Podcasting WorksCo-Producer and Marketing Coordinator: Kayla NelsonProduction Assistant: Becki Leigh

ABM falls apart fast when teams jump in before locking down who they're chasing, why it matters, and how it's all supposed to run. Sales pushes one list, marketing builds another, and no one agrees on who actually matters. No shared ICP? No clean data? Well, no chance. You need a strategy. Guest host Jon Russo (B2B Fusion) corrals Heidi Bullock (Tealium), Patti Newcomer (Centerbase), and Bindu Chellappan (Corpay) for a breakdown of how they're keeping their ABM engines running clean. Think pods with purpose, seller-first workflows, and data that matters. In this episode:  Heidi on running pods that bring marketing, sales, and CS into one motion  Patti on aligning across the funnel and why ABM needs ownership  Bindu on activating firmographic and intent data with shared definitions  Plus:  Where alignment really starts  Why trust beats tech every time  How AI is speeding up the grunt work without losing the signal  The metrics that actually tell you it's working Tune in to learn about what breaks ABM, what fixes it, and how to keep teams pulling in the same direction.  For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegademarketing.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/