Podcast appearances and mentions of greg gordon

Podcast 278 – From Brewing IPAs in Dunwoody to Selling THC on the Beltline - Allen Porter and Greg Gordon - THChill   Allen Porter built Dunwoody's first brewery, Porter Brew & Que, before recently making a bold move into THC-infused beverages with THChill. Now, he's expanding onto the Atlanta Beltline, transforming the way people drink with AI-powered innovation. Alongside hometown hero Greg Gordon, they've also reimagined Resilience Brew Pub into a ghost kitchen with four unique menus, redefining what a restaurant can be. Find out how these Dunwoody brewing pioneers are shaping the future of food, drink, and cannabis in the ATL. THChill.com resiliencebrewpub.com

James Bond 007: Roleplaying In Her Majesty's Secret Service was designed by Gerard Christopher Klug (known as Chris Klug these days) with development by Greg Gordon and Neil Randall, and was released by Victory Games between 1983 and 1987, selling over 100,000 copies. It is long out of print but available on the second-hand market at reasonable prices (as I write Noble Knight lists it at under $15 for the core rules) though the supplements are usually 200-500% more. This episode was made possible by our patron and friend Christian Bickle, who chose the game for us to cover. Huge thanks go out to him for letting us create a really fun episode. Full show notes are available here ⁠Discuss this episode on the LND Discord!⁠ ⁠Intro music by Arcane Anthems

This “audio scrapbook” of the first national LGBT march and rally in the U.S. capital on October 14, 1979, produced by “This Way Out” Coordinating Producer Greg Gordon and Associate Producer Lucia Chappelle, illuminates the problems and the passion of the first demonstration of its kind. As rich with the music and culture of the period as it is with the politics, the hour traces the event from the initial planning conference and some activists' heartfelt and sometimes humorous cross-country trip to D.C. on a “Freedom Train” to the big day itself, and its coverage (or lack thereof) in the conventional media. To help us continue to pursue the stories of significance in our community, consider joining our family of listener-donors today at thiswayout.org/donate. Produced by Greg Gordon and Lucia Chappelle. Music by Blue Dot Sessions (Jazzberry).

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us.Greg Gordon "God does not look to find those who are the elites and those who are the most skilled. Rather He looks for the weak and insignificant who trust in Him. The story of Gideon has many nuggets, types of the gospel and many lessons for New Testament believers in our time. One very obvious message is that God goes beyond just ordinary vessels,God uses broken vessels. In other words. He uses imperfect people who put their trust in a perfect God.  In this way, when a brother or sister in Christ accomplishes something great,  all men will know that it is God who has manifested His power and glory through them. And in that way, all will know that it was not the work of men but the work of God. Thanks for joining us for this week's messageSupport the Show.Thanks for joining us!

Guy shares his thoughts on Greg Gordon's departure and how it impacts the rest of the season in this episode.

June Pride season started early with the late-May recognition of what would have been Harvey Milk's 90th birthday. As right-wing forces try to rip LGBTQ history out of the textbooks, we fill the gap with a conversation with the San Francisco County Supervisor shortly after he took office (with This Way Out's Greg Gordon), and coverage of the White Night Riots in the aftermath of his assassination. And in NewsWrap: Uganda's President Yoweri Musevini signature on the latest version of the notorious Anti-Homosexuality Act terrifies LGBTQ people, the re-election of Turkey's homophobic Islamic President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan causes deep concerns among human rights activists, Latvia's out Foreign Minister Edgars Rinkēvičs makes history as the first queer head of state of a Baltic nation or in the European Union, Japan's Nagoya District Court becomes the second to rule that the ban on same-gender civil marriage is unconstitutional, Jerusalem Pride draws the largest crowd in years despite the antipathy of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's far-right government, the U.S. Pentagon defends an Air Force base from a Pride month drag show, and more international LGBTQ news reported this week by Joe Boehnlein and Ava Davis (produced by Brian DeShazor).  All this on the June 5, 2023 edition of This Way Out! Join our family of listener-donors today at http://thiswayout.org/donate/

Website- http---www.sermonindex.net-Missionary, Greg Gordon, shares about how God led him through the journey of restoring his first love. Jesus opened his eyes to the importance of worshiping God, and spending time in the secret place.

Website- http---www.sermonindex.net-Missionary, Greg Gordon, shares about how God led him through the journey of restoring his first love. Jesus opened his eyes to the importance of worshiping God, and spending time in the secret place.

Out in the Bay radio's Eric Jansen interviews Mathew Shurka co-founder of the National Center for Lesbian Right's Born Perfect campaign in 2014. Kristine Stolakis director and producer of Pray Away, a Netflix documentary inspired by her late transgender uncle's horrific experiences trying to not be trans. And in NewsWrap: Pope Francis says that private consensual adult same-gender sex should not be a criminal act; Germany's parliament specifically honors queer victims of the Nazis during their annual Holocaust Remembrance Day in Berlin; Narendra Modi's conservative Indian government objects to the appointment of respected lawyer Saurabh Kirpal to the Delhi High Court; Malta prosecutes a man for violating the national ban on promoting conversion therapy, while a U.S. federal appeals court upholds Washington state's conversion therapy ban; far-right Republican Florida GOVERNOR RON DeSANTIS defends his ban of honors students' advance placement African-American History classes statewide because it includes a “queer theory”; and Mars, Inc., which makes M&Ms, melts to rightwing pressure (led by Fox “News” blowhard TUCKER CARLSON] for updating their “spokes candy” characters and replaces them with SNL alum Maya Rudolph (written by GREG GORDON, edited this week by DAVID HUNT, reported by KALYN HARDMAN & MICHAEL LEBEAU, and produced by BRIAN DeSHAZOR). All this on the January 30, 2023 edition of This Way Out! Join our family of listener-donors today at thiswayout.org/donate/

Greg Gordon has a rich history in construction as a third-generation builder with over 25 years of industry experience. He started his career in shell construction and eventually transitioned to commercial interiors before founding Gordon Highlander in 2007. Under Greg's leadership Gordon Highlander has experienced tremendous growth and received numerous awards as a result. But Greg's true passion is for people and the relationships developed with both his team and clients. With a servant leadership approach to business, he has built a team of leaders who take ownership and pride in their work. It's a reflect the organization's mission of “building a legacy of helping others reach their God-given potential”. Greg attributes Gordon Highlander's success to this culture model.On this episode Chris and Greg Discuss:a look into the commercial construction industry from 2007-Presentwhat it's like to build for Amazon and how they built a prototype in 6 weekshow Greg views leadership and building a world-class cultureleadership above and beyond "HR"Support our Sponsors:Frank Kent CadillacCRE Daily Newsletter Fort Capital Juniper SquareLinks:Gordon HighlanderGreg on LinkedInTopics:(3:22) - Gordo's experience as 3rd generation in the Construction industry(5:12) - What does Gordon Highlander do?(7:57) - What is a “Gordon Highlander”?(10:03) - How has Industrial Finish-out evolved since '07?(15:10) - At what point in development does GH get involved?(18:18) - What does a perfect project look like to you?(19:44) - How do you budget a project in this market?(23:45) - Are there any permanent changes to the industry since 2020?(28:00) - What do people need to unlearn?(31:42) - What are you seeing in Industrial innovation?(36:47) - Developing the GH/Amazon relationship(46:25) - How do you think about the final days of a project?(47:15) - What are you seeing in the market?(51:40) - What's different in building office within industrial and office in a place like Old-Parkland?(54:52) - How do you think about change orders?(56:35) - The headlines vs. reality pertaining to Amazon slowing down development(58:24) - How do you think about legacy, servant leadership and culture?(1:06:51) - Teaching culture at Gordon Highlander(1:11:36) - Advice for young people(1:12:49) - Friendship, business(1:18:00) - Pain distorts your memory(1:19:51) - Treating your employees like people

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70 Minutes  PG-13  Greg Gordon of the California Liberty Project podcast asked Pete to come on to talk about the real-world possibilities of libertarianism working. The question is asked as to whether it is a complete ideology or is it missing something. They discuss realpolitik and immorality leading to chaos.  Today's Sponsors  Mises Mayors - Buck Johnson for City Council   Autonomy           and,  THC Hemp Spot - Promo Code “Pete” for 15% off  California Liberty Project  Get Autonomy 19 Skills PDF Download The Monopoly On Violence Support Pete on His Website Pete's Patreon Pete's Substack Pete's Subscribestar Pete's Venmo Pete on Facebook Pete on Twitter

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Greg Gordon is the founder and CEO of Gordon Highlander, a design-build general contractor providing commercial construction services in Dallas, Houston, and Austin, TX. In this episode, we discuss wisdom, parenting, relationships, leading through good times, leading through tough times, and how we can navigate these uncertain times.

"When you move to a foreign country, you do feel lonely sometimes. Trading texts, emails, and Facebook messages sometimes isn't enough." - Greg Gordon Thinking of moving to Costa Rica to live the pura vida lifestyle? Today's guest, Greg Gordon, is an expert in expat living. He's been living in Costa Rica since the 1990's as the founder of the country's first online surf report, CRSurf.com. In Episode 135 of Badass Digital Nomads, Greg and Kristin discuss how Costa Rica has changed over the years. They both witnessed the tourism and real estate boom firsthand. Greg shares how he taught himself to blog and code during the early internet days. He then offers tips on how to grow an online business with no experience, achieve work-life balance, and run his company from anywhere. Kristin and Greg also share their favorite places to visit in Costa Rica and explain how to stay safe and avoid common scams. Even though Costa Rica has a higher-than-average crime rate and cost of living, it's still a magical place to live or travel (if you know what you're doing). Tune in now to learn some of Costa Rica's best-kept tips secrets from two of its most experienced expats! "If you want to make a million dollars in Costa Rica, bring two million dollars." - Unknown EPISODE 135 TOPICS DISCUSSED: How Greg ended up living abroad in Costa Rica and how he taught himself Spanish. The reality of living in Costa Rica (pros and cons). Overcoming loneliness while living abroad.  Crime, cost of living, and infrastructure in Costa Rica. Tips to stay safe and avoid getting your stuff stolen. Greg's various income streams as an expat over the years.  Burning out in corporate America then moving to Costa Rica.  Meeting your significant other abroad.  Finding work-life balance as an expat or retiree versus making a lot of money. Living a vacation lifestyle with a low budget.  Splitting your time 50/50 between the USA and foreign countries. Driving from California through Mexico to Costa Rica. Buying or shipping your car to Costa Rica.  Crossing borders and dealing with police in Central America. Greg and Kristin's favorite Costa Rican foods and restaurants.   QUESTIONS ANSWERED: How has Costa Rica changed since the 1990s? Was there less crime before the tourism boom?  Is it dangerous to drive from San Diego through Mexico and Central America? How did you learn SEO by yourself? How did you teach yourself how to build a website with no experience? How do you avoid theft in Costa Rica?  Do you own a house or rent your house in Dominical? What is your favorite surf spot in Costa Rica besides Dominical? What underrated destinations do you recommend in Costa Rica? Costa Rica Lightning Round   RESOURCES Join the waiting list for Kristin's relocation coaching program, Ready To Relocate. Videos: 8 Reasons Why People LEAVE Costa Rica [Why I Left] Articles: 10 Ways Not to Get Your Stuff Stolen on a Surf Trip Podcasts: Shark Attacks, Surf Photography, and World Travel with Surfing Magazine's Jimmy Wilson The Dark Side of Costa Rica - Why Expats Leave How to Move From England to Costa Rica + UK and Europe Lockdowns Eco-Friendly Travel:  How to Travel Sustainably Surfing: Surfline CR Surf Places to Visit and Surf in Costa Rica: Dominical Nosara Pavones Osa Peninsula Pan Dulce Isla Uvita Nauyaca Waterfalls  San Isidro del General Best Restaurants in Costa Rica: Bar Jolly Roger Taj Mahal Escazu Lubnan San Jose Jaco Walk Caliche's Wishbone Fuego Brewery Trits Ice Cream Sandwiches by Dos Pinos Connect with Greg Gordon & CR Surf: Learn more about CR Surf Follow CR Surf on Instagram Connect with Greg on Facebook ........................................................................................... 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The historic state Supreme Court hearings on California's anti-marriage equality Proposition 8 ten years ago this week demonstrated the ability of the judiciary to change people's lives on a dime (as reported in 2011 by Greg Gordon and Pacifica Radio's Christopher Martinez). OutCasting Overtime's queer youth team shares thoughts about the objectification of women in the media, and its particular impact on lesbian and bisexual women — from hypersexualization to “corrective rape.” (OutCaster Isha, produced by Marc Sophos). And in NewsWrap: China's government censors "girlie" men, Hong Kong political puppets flag Gay Games play, a Pakistani politician pulls down a BTS "promo homo" billboard, Australian lawmakers reject trans job protections, 20 U.S. states buck Biden's pro-queer policy, and more international LGBTQ news reported this week by Melanie Keller and Michael LeBeau (produced by Brian DeShazor). All this and more on the September 6, 2021 edition of This Way Out! Join our family of listener-donors today at http://thiswayout.org/donate/

This episode we are joined by Greg Gordon of Dog Patch Pet and Feed pet store in Naperville, IL.  Greg's pet store successfully switched to a humane rescue model over a decade ago and he has been speaking out and encouraging other pet stores to do the same ever since.  Tune in to learn how your local puppy selling store can go humane and simply "do right by the dogs." COVID-19 has been especially harsh to small humane pet stores across the country. If you have the means, please consider making a donation towards helping Dog Patch rescue more dogs! https://chappyandfriends.networkforgood.com/projects/106285-dog-patch-pet?Support the show (https://bailingoutbenji.com/support-us/)

Greg is the owner of CR Surf Travel Company. Greg grew up surfing the East Coast of the United States. He's lived in New York, Virginia Beach, Cocoa Beach, and Miami Beach Florida, and so understands the value of having good, clean waves since they didn't come that often. He has also lived close to Swami's and Santa Cruz in California so he understands the value of having uncrowded waves and warm water. Greg made his first trip to Costa Rica in 1996, has lived there for more than 5 years and has made over 40 trips back and forth in between. He has surfed both coastlines extensively, planned hundreds of trips for clients and friends over the last 23 years, and has written surf travel articles for Surfline, The Inertia, and the Tico Times. When he is not surfing, writing, or helping clients, he is helping out at beach cleanups, playing guitar, and just enjoying and appreciating the natural beauty around him. Topics of Podcast Why Costa Rica? What do you love about Costa Rica? Favorite part of Costa Rica? What are the top 3 things people should not miss? Manuel Antonio National Park Nauyaca Waterfalls Arenal Volcano Community Carbon Trees Where can you find uncrowded surf these days? How different is the East to the West? What are some things you don’t like about CR? What about Panama, any tips? Have you ever thought about living there full time? What services do you provide? Describe your first surfboard? What is the best wave you have surfed? Your favorite surf trip? Did we miss anything? CRSURF.com Social Media Profiles: IG: https://www.instagram.com/crsurf/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/CRsurf/ Website: https://crsurf.com/ Also Mentioned: Community Carbon Trees: http://www.communitycarbontrees.org CREMA: http://www.cremacr.org Location: Right now in Virginia Beach, otherwise Costa Rica --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/wavetribe/message

In this episode, we chat with the owner of a surf company and hear his story riding out the height of COVID-19 while stranded miles from home.With COVID-19 affecting the way we engage with the world, it's important to plan wisely and travel responsibly, both for your own safety and that of the places you visit. But as we re engage with the world you're likely planning vacations not far from home. World Nomads can help by providing travel safety tips, inspiring content, and travel insurance designed to protect you while traveling.

Gregory Gordon joins Bob to discuss his recent Mises,org article on the Left vs. the Right and how it relates to libertarianism. Mentioned in the Episode and Other Links of Interest: The https://youtu.be/VGpL3dTdNJY (YouTube version) of this interview. https://mises.org/wire/why-theres-left-right-divide-among-libertarians (Greg Gordon's Mises.org article) on the left -right divide in libertarianism. https://tomwoods.com/ep-1381-ive-been-wrong-about-right-and-left/ (Paul Gottfried on) the Tom Woods Show. https://www.bobmurphyshow.com/episodes/ep-77-rob-bradley-on-his-contributions-to-energy-economics/ (Rob Bradley on ep. 77) of the Bob Murphy Show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViGdjc08Vt4 (Jordan Peterson) on hierarchies. https://www.bobmurphyshow.com/episodes/ep-135-adrian-lee-oliver-on-police-abuse-and-the-pros-cons-of-blm/ (Adrian Lee Oliver on ep. 135) of the Bob Murphy Show. The https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=2d+political+spectrum&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC8r2TkODsAhUKTt8KHV5kAiUQjJkEegQICRAB&biw=1407&bih=692 (2d political spectrum). http://bobmurphyshow.com/contribute (Help support) the Bob Murphy Show. The audio production for this episode was provided by http://podsworth.com/ (Podsworth Media).

This episode features another special interview! Troy and Joel interview Greg Gordon, the man who runs the website Sermon Index. The largest compository of old sermons online and also the man behind most old sermon audio content that can be found on Youtube. We have him on the show and ask him what makes these old sermons so great! In this sermon, "The Gifts To The Flock," we listen to a sermon by Alexander Maclaren. If you're wondering who Alexander Maclaren is, I highly recommend listening to an earlier episode we did on him! Special thanks to John Brand for reading this sermon! Born to missionary parents in India, John was brought to saving faith in Christ while at boarding school in south India.  Back in UK, and a few years after leaving school, he studied at the Bible Training Institute in Glasgow, and then, for the next 12 years, pastored two Independent Evangelical churches, one in the inner city of London and then one in Liverpool, during some of which time he also served on the UK Council of Africa Inland Mission International (AIM). In 1993 he took on the role of AIM’s Director for Scotland, becoming Director for UK and Europe in January 1999. During his 8 years in this position he exercised a Bible teaching ministry throughout UK and Europe and made regular visits to many of AIM’s fields of service in Africa, where he was involved in ministering to missionaries and nationals. After serving for five years on the staff of The Faith Mission Bible College in Edinburgh, first as Vice-Principal and then as Principal, in 2012 John, in partnership with local church leaders, set up Edinburgh Bible College which he now serves as Principal. John is married to Caroline and they have two grown up sons and one granddaughter, John is also Pastor of Grace Community Church, Broxburn, which he planted in 2014 and contributes book reviews and articles to Christian publications and is author of three books – A Concise Chronology of the Bible, Mission Matters and The Bible As It Happened. Apart from preaching and teaching God’s Word himself, nothing gives him more pleasure and satisfaction in ministry than equipping other men for ministry and John has led preachers’ workshops in several countries, most notably and enjoyably in Sudan and South Sudan. This week we put out a new Revived Thoughts Deep Dive on the Crusades! Listen and join our Premium Team on Patreon to enjoy the full episode. If you'd like to narrate a sermon, send us an email at revivedthoughts@gmail.com And if you enjoy the show, sharing with friends and a 5 star rating on Apple Podcasts! Follow us for more content throughout the week!  Facebook Instagram Twitter Youtube Revived Thoughts

An interview with football scout writer, Greg Gordon, who alongside his work in the football industry has carved out a fine career both betting and tipping on football for well over a decade.Discussed in this podcast:How his work as a scout informs his football betting work and the success he has enjoyed over 15 yearsHow he prices up a game and a simple way to copy his approach to find value.Why he specializes on certain teams rather than specific leagues or competitions and the advantages of thisHow he analyses and bets on games from an in-play perspectiveHow Covid-19 has impacted his football bettingSome of the less common football markets and type of bets he focuses on and why there is an edge thereWhy listening to the TV commentary on live football can badly influence your betsWhere he bets and his strategy about getting onWhy relying on XG alone can be a flawed approachAnecdotes on those in the football world he has worked with over the years such as Sir Alex Ferguson, Jim Leighton & Archie KnoxDiscover More:Read about the Smart Betting Club and how they are helping ordinary punters with their betting @ www.smartbettingclub.comContact Greg via greggordonsfb@gmail.comFeedback - contact SBC on twitter @sbcinfo 

Connect with Michael and BobThe Climb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-climb-podcast/Bob Wierema: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-wierema/Michael Moore: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelpmoore/Connect with Greg Gordon and Richie GrethWebsite: https://www.gordonhighlander.com/Greg Gordon: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-gordon-aa55945/Richie Greth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-greth-992b9a3/[00:00:00] Greg Gordon: I felt the temptation to make kind of a monolithic statement. I just feel like I'm trying to like, be right about my statement and put it in a way that it works, you know? And I'm like, Oh wait, this is just, this is just really complicated. Brian Thompson is one of my project managers. He's the guy that I feel.Fortunate to get to work with he's wise and kind he's a deep spiritually. And so instead of making a statement, we just had a conversation and I want to grow. I feel like. I have biases and I don't really know where they are and sometimes I don't even want to see him. And when they're revealed, they're usually pretty ugly and I try to cover them up with the good deeds I do.Brian has just made it real safe for me to kind of open up. Yeah, we just had a wonderful conversation. I know that, I shared with him first, you know, I, I went in this whole thing, got started and it was years ago. I just, I just felt like all lives mattered. You know, that, that was part of my calling, but I just didn't really understand the context and what you mean.It was being shared and it had to be revealed to me. I had to learn. But it took me kind of realizing that I didn't get something about it. And I wanted to avoid the temptation of being right about my opinion. And I just was actively seeking and asking Michael Moore: on this episode of the climb, we tell the story of Gordon Highlander, which has become the largest industrial finish out contractor in the metroplex.We're joined by Greg Gordon and Richard Greth. Two really good friends of mine. This episode goes deep. We laugh a lot. We talk about golf, family, politics. This is one you're going to listen to more than once. Enjoy the climb.[00:02:00] welcome to the climb. I'm your cohost, Michael Moore joined by my Partner in crime, Bob Wierema and we couldn't be more excited today. You're going to get two for the price of one. As we've got two really good friends of mine, great business minds, and Greg Gordon and Richard Greth. Richie and I have known each other since 1995.When I was on my way up to the university of Colorado, I stopped off in Lubbock. And he was my best friend from high school, his roommate. And it's been a unbelievable friendship since then. And then through Richie, I got to meet Greg Gordon, founder of Gordon Highlander. And so gentlemen, thank you for joining us, Bob.Thanks for coming back from Mexico for this and with that, Greg, I'll turn it over to you. Give us a little background on yourself and then Richie, you can follow him. Greg Gordon: I think just the quick disclaimer for the audience. you know, when, when, when guys like us know each other this well, there's, there's just going to be a lot of inside jokes, probably that people won't get. but, happy to be here. Thanks for the wonderful introduction. You guys, Gordon Highlander is a commercial construction company. We started in 2007 with a passion for serving other people and a commitment to excellence. And so I am humbled to be a founder and leader. And, we have had a lot of success in growing our business and, and I'm sure we will get to talk about that a little bit more in the, in the webinar, or, Podcast, what are we calling it? Bob Wierema: Podcast, too many webinars these days. Richie Greth: Yeah. Greg Gordon: What's the future state of the office. Bob Wierema: Yeah, exactly. [00:04:00] Richard. Richie Greth: Yes. Well, my name is Richard Greth and, yeah, I'm, I'm very fortunate to know Michael and, in Gordo for. For quite some time, they've both been great fans to great friends and trusted advocates throughout this crazy journey of law.But yes, on my, I grew up in Midland, Texas. I've been living in Dallas since about 2000 graduate of The Texas tech university, you know, been in construction. My dad was a general contractor, so grew up around it swore I would never do it to the log cabin from awful after a college and got into it. It just never turned back and really blessed to be in.Such a great industry. And, one that I never thought would be considered an essential service. So, but it's been one hell of a ride and I'm just blessed and, sound like a victory speech at the Oscars, but I just, you know, so many people have helped me along the way. So she's very blessed. Michael Moore: Well, Bob, why I wanted to bring these two guys on.Hey, cause it's going to be a whole lot of fun. But when we think about our mission in telling stories and defining moments and crossroads, they get you somewhere. I just found it incredible that there can be this, this friendship that it can be thicker than blood. And these two guys. Knew each other, they were clients of each other.And then eventually over time as things play out, now they're working together. I want to highlight that. And maybe guys, you can talk about how that all came together. Richie Greth: Yeah, I can take the first part of that. It was, probably mid 2001 of mutual friend of ours named Meredith. Gladys basically had introduced us.I was a young project manager at Trammell Crow and Gordo was a project manager at commercial interior space guy was doing industrial TEI and that [00:06:00] was kind of Gordo's forte for the business he was working with. We started working together and doing a lot of jobs and quickly found out that, that we enjoyed each other's company and a shared like ideals and, you know, more than anything knew how to kind of execute some of the promises that were being made on the brokerage.And I mean, one of my favorite quotes from a mutual friend of ours, Chris Jackson, he, my first started Trammell Crow. He, I asked him what the. Internal relationship was with between the project manager and the broker. And he says, it's very simple. I sell the dream and you live the nightmare and, and no truer words were ever spoken and Gordo helped live that nightmare with me.And, it's been a great. Greg Gordon: Kind Richie Greth: of partnership ever since we've done tons of work together over the years, our lives have paralleled each other and some of the ups and downs and ins and outs, so to speak. And we could probably spend a podcast on those parallels, but at the end of the day, we, we've always kind of had the same focus and the same mindset, which has kept.Kind of our planets in orbit, so to speak and campus together. And, it's really been a great partnership. And, you know, when Gordo went out on his own, I was fortunate enough. a bunch of his good friends were kind of racing to be the first one to give. Gordon Highlander, their first job and Gordo finally admitted during a recent round to another person who was trying to claim that, that, that I truly was the one who gave Gordon Highlander, their first job, you know, I've been invested in when Gordon Highlander since day one, just because of my love for my friend, Greg.And, you know, I've been to parties, you know, I mean, a bunch of the guys are probably new 50% of the staff before I even started, just because of my involvement and, just through different activities, et cetera. So Greg Gordon: that's a little bit Richie Greth: of a brief synopsis of how Greg and I came together and, you know, it's funny.He had, he had mentioned a few [00:08:00] times and I had mentioned about. You know, working with Gordo and it's funny, I think over a couple rounds ago and planets aligning and, it just worked out right. It's funny. I was at a point working for myself that the Greg, we were talking about needing, wanting to grow his business.And I'm probably a better promise or the executioner or executor's excuse me. So maybe that's 40 and slipped there. Anyway, Greg Gordon: Richie, don't take out all our competition. Richie Greth: Exactly. But anyway, so it's just been a blessing. I mean, getting to work with one of your best friends and, and for an organization like that, it's just been an incredible Greg Gordon: blessing.I love what you guys are doing. there's this famous quote, Eugene Peterson wrote, an interpretation of the Bible called the message and Eugene says. That storytelling is the language of the heart Richie. And I have shared our lives together in a, in a lot of different ways and friendship and, and the client contractor relationship and the partner relationship, and really just in brotherhood and, and, I will tell you that.I knew I had Richie support before I started Gordon Highlander. And there was this story that was being formed and it wasn't just mine. It was all the people that really were the ambassadors for the, for the business. And for me, And I think there's real mad. I think that people intellectually can wrap their mind around that, but really leaders actually do it.And we just have been really lucky with attracting the greatest people to the organization. I will tell you professionally, I think Richie joining Gordon Highlander is probably one of the [00:10:00] fastest. Literally, I can tell you it was G Oh seven one Oh one was the number of the first job that Gordon Islander over dead and Richie gave it to us.And then for us to figure out how he could become a part of our story, any RD was just in a different way, how to weave those together and how rich. How incredibly rich that story is it's, it's really unique. I think what Michael didn't say is that Richie is a unicorn. That's my term for someone that's really hard to find the key, go do anything they wanted to in the world.He could go do anything he wanted to. And the fact that he came to join Gordon Highlander is just, it's incredible. Bob Wierema: What I love is that you two actually like each other, unlike Michael and I Michael Moore: sure. Never spoken Bob Wierema: it's so cool to hear. I mean, you can see it in your guys, you know, inheriting your voices and the friendship that you have.And that's, it's so great to see. So maybe, maybe to one of the things I was thinking about when you were talking was, so you started the company in 2007, at what point? Richie, did you join the business? And like, how did that all kind of come about? At what point were you guys ready to start together? Richie Greth: Well, you know, it's funny.My, my official relationship with Gordon Highlander has just been a little over a year. my unofficial relationship with Gordon Highlander, like I said, has been from the, from the beginning, always trying to promote his brand, from the positions that, that I was in, et cetera. And then I'm trying to.You know, just different things. Like I said, going to his different functions, et cetera, but really, I think it's kind of a funny anniversary, but very appropriate for April 1st, 2019 is when I started, Michael Moore: I thought you would have said April [00:12:00] 20th. Richie Greth: Yeah. Well that was the end of my probation. Greg Gordon: You know, I think we probably remember it differently.I will tell you that. W I remember us Cedar crest golf course. I was really struggling and I was just dealing with some personal issues and I had some pain and I was unpacking that for Richie. And then Richie kind of said, you know, I'm struggling a little bit too. Like, I don't really love my home office.I've always been an athlete. I've always been a part of the team and I really. And then all of what Gordon Highlanders done. And I was like, dude, let's just get a business card, then we'll put your name on it. Like, well, fuck, we'll figure this out. You know, like, I don't know, like let's go on business, you know, and really we didn't know.And I will tell you that I have seen this theme in my life a lot, where in a way, God kind of puts things together. Or provides, I think I'm supposed to go a certain way and I get real focused on doing my part, but then God takes me in the other way. And then I ended up in a better spot than I ever thought I was going to be at, to begin with.And the funniest thing happened. I was pursuing a big tenant rep broker in JLL. The next week. And I was in the early stages of learning my relationship and he said, Gordo, I don't know, man. I just love you enough that I want to tell you. So, and I go what's that? He goes, dude, you need to, I have a business development person.If you're going to continue to grow Gordon Highlander. I like teed my ball up. I hit it and I just thought, thank you, man. I put a sign, you know, and I go, Hey, actually, I've been talking to this guy. I got somebody. And he [00:14:00] goes, no, I have the person that you need to talk to. I go once. And so he's like, yeah, you should talk to Emily.And so well, I started talking to Emily at the same time. I'm telling Emily about Richie and Emily's real confused about what the hell? yeah. It's, it's crazy. I have two sets of twins. You guys have two sets of twin boys. I managed to do that with two different women. And I refer to Richie and Emily is my third sentence wins.They started on the same day. Michael Moore: That's amazing. Greg Gordon: Yeah. Michael Moore: You know that, that defines it right there. I mean, that doesn't happen by accident and Gordo. I appreciate your. Your thoughts around your faith in that, and that, you know, we're all on a path. It's just our job to stay on it and pay attention to those signs along the way.And it's all gonna work out just because I'm a huge history guy backing up a little bit. Give us kind of the four, one, one on the name. You know, you being a third generation builder, like give us the background on Gordon Highlander. Cause it's a good one. Greg Gordon: Yeah, thank you so much for that. There's a, so I'm originally from the East coast, Baltimore, Maryland.my dad was the history teacher and ended up getting, his architecture degree. He worked for his father and my grandmother worked at the Maryland historical society and she had done a lot of research about our family lineage. So this would have been you guys in the seventies. Before the internet and probably a harder search to navigate than it is now.And so I was just born into this historical perspective when I was a little kid, I thought. I had an army in my family, [00:16:00] in the Gordon, Highlanders are regimented of the Scottish army. They were formed in the late 17 hundreds. And they're like the special forces to the United States army, a Winston Churchill, his famous quote about the Gordon Highlanders is that they're the greatest regiment that there ever was.And so they have. Rich history. I just learned about it as a kid. I thought there was an army in my family somehow. I didn't know how I was connected to it. And so this really cool thing happened when I felt the calling to step up my own. My dad was, is always been kind of Homebase and my strategic advisor and he was saying, son, we already have a brand.We were born into it. It's our family name and it has a tartan and it has its battle cry. Yeah. Yeah. It's all these things that a lot of, a lot of other companies, without a story or a history are trying to event, they're trying to invent it from scratch. And so it was just really cool. We, we pulled a lot of the principles of the army.Sayings end of the business. We pulled the Gordon tartan down onto the business and we brought all those things that had proceeded me into the business naming. And so the other thing is I, I, I did choose to put my name on the business too, and I think that that's important. Bob Wierema: And you, you mentioned you had this calling to step out on your own and I can't pass that one up in the theme of this.So what was the calling? How did that come to you? What made you make that leap and say, okay, I'm ready to do this. Greg Gordon: Yeah, just this, this hunch, this real instinct, I was just young and learning. The business was really about relationships. And I work for someone that I have a lot of respect for. They were a great technician at what they did, but.The relationship management part of that business, I felt like I [00:18:00] was doing most of it and that people weren't really attached to the business or the brand. They were attached to my relationship and the trust that I had formed. And so I wanted ownership and I was tired of being an employee. I thought I knew what that meant, putting my money back into the business somehow to get equity.But I, I really didn't know. What that was all about. That was just kind of over my head at the time. And, and, and so I asked for ownership, but I felt like I knew that the answer would be no. And I was prepared to go at, already set up my company. And, it happened very fast. It happened faster than I even thought it was going to.We, we had an incredible first year and really, we haven't looked back. We've had a couple of years where. Revenue was flat, but profits were up and we just have continued to reinvest in the business. And, we're actually believe it or not. I hate to sound tone deaf because I know things are rough in the world right now, but we're, we could have as much as 400% growth in 2020 with less people.Michael Moore: And one really good to really good twin business development people. Greg Gordon: Wow. Exactly. Well, I will tell you, I'm a whoop on the, at the top of the chart. Woo. When it comes to Strength Finders, I'm like all influence and Richie's woo. Number two, number one. He's positivity. It's he's just such a wonderful guy to be around.I don't know how to explain it. It's just Richie brings out the best in everybody. He's just. He is amazing. And so there's no doubt that he is a key part of our success. Richie Greth: I'm going to give you about five minutes to stop that.No, I appreciate it. Gordo, man, you know, it's a, [00:20:00] you know, all the love goes right back to you. I mean, what you've been able to do over the last, you know, 13 or so years is, is unbelievable. And, and, and Gordo hit the key there. I mean, really understanding relationship and understanding that it's not about the job.It, it, you know, it's, it's not about what's in front of you. It's, what's down the road more than anything and, you know, thinking, and that's one of the things I've always been so impressed with Greg Gordon: him is. Richie Greth: Taking long term, more than, than short term. We're really trying to invest back into his business, bringing in experts to help strengthen his leadership team, et cetera.I mean, he's just the way he's approached his businesses has been ferocious and directed and the results are results are obvious. Michael Moore: Through friendship. I mean, especially spanning as long as all of ours does together. If you add them all up, I mean, I've known Bob for 14 years. You just get to really know the true people.Couple of things to reflect on that. One of my first fondest memories of Gordo and there were, there were other ones, but this one is just sticking out right now. Maybe it's cause I'm looking at him was, At Richie's wedding and we're at the reception and I look over and the only white boy dancing, harder, white boy and sweating more than me is Gordo.And I'm like, That guy's awesome. And my wife is going who's that guy, he is having a better time than we are. Like, let's go hang out with him. And it's just been this, this triangle of friendship, you know, that comes in and out. Everybody gets busy, people have kids and, but you can always come back to it.And then, you know, shortly after. I started at Lockton was in when Richie decided to join up with you. So we were due for a big catch up and it didn't even have to be in person. I could just tell in his tone of voice, like he was reenergized, [00:22:00] he was fired up. He was, he was missing that culture that you've created at Gordon Highlander.So I think it was just, it was just a matter of time before y'all joined up and it's going to be so much fun to see where it heads next. I Bob Wierema: will say, Michael, the first memory I can think about you is in Nashville, Texas, and I'm pretty sure you were drinking and had a few too many cocktails when we were down at that training program down there.Michael Moore: Oh yeah. Nashville, Tennessee. Get your geography. Right. But Greg Gordon: what Richie Greth: did I say, Nashville? Michael Moore: I Bob Wierema: don't know. It's all, it's all South Illinois, South of Chicago. What's it's all the same. Michael Moore: Kind of transitioned into something I want to hit on next. Cause you know, Bob's got a perspective being in Chicago, he works with a lot of construction firms and real estate.You know, I see a wide breadth of business from oil and gas to real estate to construction to you name it. We're a little more insulated maybe in, in North, Texas than say our. East coast brethren or West coast, but Bob and I have spent a lot of time on our podcast. Kind of talking about this concept of what's occurred in the last 90 to a hundred days has created an old economy and a new economy.And so from y'alls perspective in the construction world and finish out and, and just in life in faith and family, like maybe take a few minutes to comment on that. Richie Greth: I'll add more to expand on the business side, the one kind of life side that, you know, I love how kids do the things that they can say sometimes can really just cut through some of the BS.And I remember my, my daughter, Georgia, she asked me, she said, dad, what, Greg Gordon: what Richie Greth: was Krone like when you were a kid? You know, something about that just resonated with me where I just looked at and I said, [00:24:00] baby, this, this is all new to all of us. I mean, we are all learning on the fly here. We didn't have this kids.So, you know, I think it's, it's great perspective. Think that, you know, never before have we felt maybe more connected to. More people globally, because we're all going through kind of one thing at the same time, but yeah, this is, this is something, I mean, I remember as a kid, the trivia question was who won the 1918 Stanley cup, you know, and it was no one because they shut it down for the Spanish flu.I mean, it was such kind of a little weird snapshot in time and we're right in the middle of this weird snapshot in time. And, to kind of get with your. You know what you were talking about. Faith early. One of my favorite kind of anecdotes is, you know, how do you make God laugh? You tell him your plans.You know? I mean it's, and I think no time has ever been sure than right now, but I'll let go to take the other part Greg Gordon: of that. There's something crazy about being a builder where you take other people's vision and. Make it come to life. So I think we're training really well to deal with obstacles. And these are just really big obstacles that we're going to figure out.Fortunately for us, there's been this wonderful confluence of the way we've built our business and how the market has come together. And so those two are crossing each other right now. And that's, it's kinda like a double up, Oh my gosh, I'm drawing a blank on the. It's everyone does surfing now.Wakeboarding, sorry. Whoa. Double up. It's when they cross the boat back and they make the wave go twice as high as it normally does. Right. Right. So just right away, I was fortunate enough to get plugged into some. [00:26:00] Calls where there was 15,000 people around the world through CBRS global investment platform.And those guys have economists and people that are way smarter than me that surround their business. And the industrial asset class has been growing and doing really well. And there's just a lot of data. Now that points towards. Continued expansion because of crown of IRS and industry. True Buddhist. No, that, inventory used to be a bad word.You know, everything was always Justin. And so everyone personally got to see how that got interrupted. And no one wants to deal with that again. And so they're saying 3% more inventory equals 500 million square feet speed of additional industrial development. And, the onboarding of manufacturing, you know, Trump's been talking about it for a while about getting it back from China.And I don't know how well he's been doing with it, but coronavirus really adds to his cause I think people can really now realize and see like, Hey, I don't want my coronavirus tests to come. From China. I want it to be made right here in my backyard. And people were actually kind of getting their mind around why having manufacturing near the business hubs make sense.And then you multiply that with eCommerce. And so the most fascinating part of it is e-commerce for whatever groups that it didn't reach prior to coronavirus, I'm telling everyone it doesn't matter what sex would. What color, what ethnicity, what socioeconomic group e-commerce is now like the United States postal service it's here to stay and some economists are suggesting 2 billion square feet, 2 billion, B billion square feet.Dallas Fort [00:28:00] worth is 850 million. And so we're just in this. Cross hairs where we've built our business in Dallas, Fort worth Dallas is the largest industrial development community in the country. Gordon Highlander is the biggest interior finished out contractor and industrial finish out. And so that gives us a lot of credibility.We've had a lot of swings. We've got great people and great processes. And the Mark is just producing a ton of work for us right now. So we just feel super-duper fortunate. Bob Wierema: You see Michael Moore: looking outside of Bob Wierema: the Dallas Fort worth area. Are you looking Michael Moore: at Bob Wierema: geography? You think there's a good focus there to continue and grow in that area and expand.Greg Gordon: We have been talking about that for a long time. And I will tell you that for me, when I experience a lot of growth, my temptation that I watch my hands, it's like, Oh, a lot of money that this snow on my hands. If I don't direct them the right way, they're going to want to put their hands on things. And I want to live my life with my hands open, like this.And when you have extra profits, I think that creates clarity on how you would go attack other markets. And so we're in the early stages of considering where the needs are greatest, where are the various barriers of entry are the easiest and how we could focus on really profitable offerings that match up with what we feel like is the value that we bring.Richie Greth: And at the end of the day, we felt very blessed to be an industrial construction in Dallas, Fort worth. Greg Gordon: He had it. The other thing with growth is we want to continue to grow at all water, the garden. That's already planning and plant more gardens and other places not get my OPIC or get too [00:30:00] proud. We want to be humble servants.And we just feel like we have a lot to offer people. I will tell you too, on the personal side, I'm predicting kind of this collision where we've been highly effective with being able to run our business without opening our office. You guys that's on the backs. It's clearly on the backs of the subs and the superintendents that work for Warren Highlander.So we're kind of a house divided where. You know, more than half of our company is learning this wonderful efficiency from being able to work at home while the other half is on the frontline, actually doing all the work. Not that we're not doing the work too, but you know what I mean? You see what I'm trying to illustrate.It's very different. Richie Greth: It is going to be fascinating to come out the other side of this and almost to have the Freakonomics mindset, to see some of the changes that will happen. I mean, you know, it's a great question to ask people how they work from home and you, you know, I've talked out. You know, architect, friends of mine, who said, man, I've never had so much uninterrupted time in my life.And then other people that have said I'm going absolutely stir crazy. I, I, I just, can't, I'm missing talking to people. So, you know, the, the different opportunities and the asterisk that is going to be over this year, you know, that people can put, you know, in, in some instances is. That's going to be fascinating to look at 2022, 2023 and just see mindsets, attitudes, behavior, and just some of the data that comes out of this and see what changes that's.That's what I'm really curious about Greg Gordon: too. I think about how we started the business Richie about relationships and know how powerful the human connection is. And I think the [00:32:00] efficiencies are great because they're a way to deal with the obstacles, but I don't see them as being long lasting. Yeah. And I also, I worry, you know what?I'm kind of in my beautiful mind state and we're drawing on the board and the EEQ and the conversation is real high and we're really grinding and getting vulnerable and really challenging each other around strategy. I think you gotta have that and you can't, you can't do that. Quite the same over a zoom call.Richie Greth: Yeah. Greg Gordon: So I'm, I'm just real curious to see, I know the pressure is building around me. I just am ready for coronavirus to be over. I'm starting to feel like, well, the serious, like baby Greg is showing up in the marriage, like he's just tired of wearing a mask. Michael Moore: Yeah. Amen, Richie Greth: man. What an incredible time though, to have grown of our story, have the abilities to have this one on one interaction and our, our kids aren't stuck with, you know, three rocks and a stick, you know, I mean, it's, it's pretty incredible.The time and the opportunity that we have in the outlets. I mean, it's a, I was watching the original total recall the other day and seeing people and faces and, you know, the video conference calls. And it was just kind of funny seeing some of those older movies trying to project the future, but it is interesting that, you know, Greg Gordon: Thank Richie Greth: goodness for technology thanking us for still able to see, I mean, you've experienced in some of our meetings.I mean, having this tool to be able to see your client's reactions, to be able to, to have that conversation. I mean, over a phone is almost like email. You can interpret it, thought four or five different ways. Being able to see someone's face is an incredible [00:34:00] advantage. So I mean, the four of us getting to sit here and have a conversation almost like we're sitting around the same table together, not to get too prophetic, but you know, it's just, it's amazing.Bob Wierema: Michael. And I have noticed that too, with doing, doing even this podcast and some of the other connections we've made throughout doing this is, you know, the, a bit like what I've met. Yeah. The opportunity to have the conversation with, with you guys without kind of this opportunity. Well, maybe, maybe not, you know, would mix, I have pursued this that we've talked about doing for a year now.Yeah. I don't know. It's cool. Richie Greth: It's all right. Ma you know, necessity is the mother of all invention, right? Michael Moore: Exactly. You know, I think it's probably a common theme that we all share that. You know, whether it's, it's being the old bull sitting on the Hill now instead of the young one, Richie Greth: are Michael Moore: we see a, you know, you, you, you just, you, you get a, as you get a little bit older too, to analyze things and, you know, Greg, a conversation we were having a week or so ago, kind of leading up to this podcast, if you feel like sharing, I just, I loved how you.You saw this movement of, of, you know, civil unrest going on and hashtag black lives matter, just popping up everywhere. And you're like, you know what? I need to understand this better. So can you, can you share a little bit about how you went about diving into that? Greg Gordon: Yeah. You know, it's funny, we've been trying to build the brand during the coronavirus with webinars and podcasts, getting out there.I just want say, man, I just felt this temptation to make it and no, not that there's anything wrong with statements, but. When you make them on the social media outlets, you just get ripped apart. [00:36:00] And I felt the temptation to make kind of a monolithic statement. I just feel like I'm trying to like, be right about my statement and put it in a way that it works, you know?And I'm like, Oh wait, this is just. This is just really complicated. And so I don't know if you've seen it that went out last week, but, Brian Thompson is one of my project managers is the guy that I feel fortunate to get to work with he's wise and kind he's a deep spiritually. And so instead of making a statement, we just had a conversation.And I want to grow. I feel like I have biases and I don't really know where they are and sometimes I don't even want to see them. And when they're revealed, they're usually pretty ugly and I try to cover them up with the good deeds I do. Brian has just made it real safe for me to kind of open up and, yeah, we just had a wonderful conversation.I know that, I shared with him first, you know, I, I, when this whole thing got started and it was years ago, I just, I just felt like all lives mattered. You know, that, that was part of my calling, but I just didn't really understand the context and what you was being shared. And it had to be revealed to me.I had to learn, but it took me kind of realizing that I didn't get something about it. And I wanted to avoid the temptation of being right about my opinion. And I just was actively seeking and asking, and my wife helped me out. You know, she just said, babe, could you imagine if we were struggling? I know we've been there before and I came to you and I said, babe, you know, do you love me?Can you tell me that you love me? And you said, Oh babe, I love everybody. And so there wasn't until I humanized it, that I could understand it a little bit more, but [00:38:00] also too, I'm not, I don't know anything really about the organization and I'm not trying to make a global statement about protests or any of that stuff.Just the very simple concept in which it was formed and how to be allied out there and just reveal my ignorance and love my friend, Brian. Well, Michael Moore: And so, after the conversation, I mean, are there things now that you're routinely working on or thinking about, did it fundamentally change or did it just shed light on kind of an idea and a, an ideology that you already had, or give us a little more insight?Greg Gordon: One of the questions that I asked Brian is I said, where do you think our biases come from? And he just paused and he goes, Wow, because I don't really know it. I will tell you that. I want to be captivated by the wow. And not the, how I always want to jump to the how, but I never stay right there. You know, I've never, I never stay on the wow.And I go, I think it's the really good questions that get you stimulated that are the things that form you and that matter. And. It's not so much about the answers I don't know about you, but coronavirus has been one of the most humbling things for me because every time I think I could get it figured out, it sets me back two steps.It's like one step forward, two steps back. It feels like it's the most disorienting thing. And then there's this imaginary line where everyone kind of draws in judges. And Richie Greth: it's a great point. It's like our, a mutual friend Dan lap and said right. Asking the right questions. That's a great question. What are those biases come from?Bob Wierema: Oh, boy, you got, how did you guys know? [00:40:00] Richie Greth: Gordo introduced us to them. Greg Gordon: Richie dated him in high school.Okay. Richie Greth: And then Gordo's stolen from me. Michael Moore: Dan, Dan was doing one of his workshops, in, in Dallas. And I just thought, yeah, Gordon Highlanders, doing so much work around, expanding in their brand and knew that. That the twins and the BD department were really ramping up, getting out there and, and. Shaking the trees.And so I thought they would benefit from knowing Dan. Now, if there's a side romance going on, we'll have to ask Nan about that. But Richie Greth: yeah. You know, and I will tell you that's another great thing. you know, being in that workshop and getting to do that was a lot of fun. And I think, A great thing of Gordo's character is he's never afraid to ask questions.And I remember, Dan and it was great, you know, it was great presentation and I thought he had some excellent things to say, and we were actually had him signed up to come down here, but. Chronic kind of sideline that, but, you know, he had a deal called the elite mindset, which you're aware of. I remember Gordo questioning the word elite and I, you know, at first I kind of crawled my toes a little bit and I was like, Oh no.And then I was like, I love it. You know, I go, the guy's just, he's not taking status quo. And I think that's a great example of Gordo. Just always asking questions and from whether it's. You know, getting involved in an investment deal and want to know exactly how, you know, what a cap rate is to, what do you mean by elite mindset?And it's been a great, it's been a great example for me to follow, to always ask questions and not just, you know, if something ruffles your feathers a little bit or makes you pause, poke at it for it. Greg Gordon: I Michael Moore: think, Bob Wierema: I think what's great about that is one of the things that's always resonated with me that actually [00:42:00] by executive yeah.Coach tells me all the time he's he says seek to understand, not to be understood. So ask more questions, do more listening than trying to make your point and like the Gordo's point of earlier and just having that ability to. Ask the questions and understand and put your bias aside or what you may have been taught in the past.And just ask questions to understand, instead of stating your point and sticking from there. It's, it's interesting how the conversations go and the relationships get built. Richie Greth: Right, man, Michael Moore: you know, along that same go, go ahead and go to. Greg Gordon: It's like a God gave you two ears and one mouth Bob Wierema: exactly. Michael Moore: To, to echo that Gordo.I mean my executive coach, we talk a lot about identity and reputation, and I think in our twenties and thirties, you know, where we're real focused and maybe even a little bit worried about our reputation, like that's what you're trying to build, but in reality, It's your identity. I mean, that's been there the whole time.And so if you just truly focus on. You and who you are and being the best you, your reputation, and you don't worry about it. It's going to be there because you're being yourself. Bob Wierema: Michael. I just do want to point out real quick that I am still in my thirties just to rub that in with you a little bit. Greg Gordon: Well, Michael Moore: we'll always be older than you, Bob.Greg Gordon: Really early Michael Moore: two sets of twins will do that Greg Gordon: to you. Richie Greth: I have a car that's in its thirties.Greg Gordon: we, I would love to share our mission statement with you guys. Michael Moore: Please do, Greg Gordon: to build a legacy of helping others reach their God, given potential. You know, I'm doing coaching right now to, Zig Ziglar coaching. And Zig, you [00:44:00] know, he's got, he's got all these nuggets, man. He's just got tons and tons of nuggets, but he.I just think very few people map actually can take all those beautiful things in their mind and disability Strait them in ways that are really easy to understand. And Zig says that legacy is where success and significance come together. And so, I don't know, Michael, your years were identity and reputation.And I feel like I I'm experiencing success. I want to be able to navigate that without becoming a part of it. I'm really interested in significance now. And I think that's part of what happens as you age or you're humbled that wisdom sets in and you realize you don't know it all. Yeah. I just think the, the why or the significance to that's the thing that I think Richie and I get to live out for everybody, just this idea of how important relationships are and what they mean, what they look like.I Richie Greth: do have a funny story real quick about Zig Ziglar. And, it pops in my head when, and Gordo talking about it. But one time we were playing golf in Dallas and we happened to run into leach. Ravinia. And Lee was he's a, if you've ever run into him or ever had a one on Greg Gordon: one, he, he Richie Greth: loves to talk and he loves to tell stories and he just started, he just pulled up and started talking about someone's stock socks and went into a couple stories and was just talking and Gordo interjected with a funny story about Zig Ziglar, talking about, cooking in a pan and, And it was really funny and leach Ravinia looked at Gordon and he says, yeah, I sit next to her on a plane one time.And a Zig Ziglar told me it helped me with my golf game. And I says, well, what do you shoot? He says, well, high eighties. I go, you can't help me with my golf [00:46:00] game.Greg Gordon: Okay. Richie Greth: So I thought that was pretty funny. I'm a huge fan of Zig Ziglar, but I thought that was. Funny how different people take different advice. Michael Moore: Well, you just never know who you're going to walk up on the tee box and play with. Remember when we played with Mark Cuban's mom. Richie Greth: That's right. And we, we, we didn't even believe her.Michael and I, this would have been 2002, maybe. 2002, 2000 2003, the great Stevens park and Kessler Dallas area. Michael and I are on number one T and it's just a twosome about three o'clock and we're ready for the fairway to clear. And we see this little old lady pushing a push cart, like, Oh God, please hurry, please.Fairly clear. And she comes hobbling up and says your mom. And we're like, yeah, sure. So. That's the third hole. She starts, she goes, you boys basketball fans. And we says, yes, we are. She's a little, my son is Mark. And I started thinking, what basketball player his name was? Mark. And it was Mark Cuban's mom.And, it was pretty funny at Steven's park right there. And we didn't believe her until she hopped in the Cadillac at the turn. Then we thought, well, maybe it is her. I'll be darn sure it was her. Michael Moore: And I'm pretty sure her, her nine whole front was a better score than ours, but Greg Gordon: we had more fun, way more. Bob Wierema: I'm just trying to understand how much golf you've been playing.I think most of the stories have been surrounded with golf so far, Richie Greth: man. Greg Gordon: know Richie Greth: not to tell another one, but another one of my favorites is, early on in Gordo and I's friendship. Gordo's dad who he referred to. Incredible guy. He was a leader, Trammell Crow when I was there and he had come down to visit a friend of his and we played at a golf course.It's not even there anymore. Great Southwest. And, in Arlington and about the third [00:48:00] hole Gordo's dad looked at me and said, boy, I will fire your ass. If you worked for me, the way you play golf, you obviously don't work.Greg Gordon: That was actually, my dad was coming down from Chicago. He ran the Midwest for Trammell Crow, then. Oh, okay. I love Chicago, man. It's one of my favorite cities Bob Wierema: we just want, we just want it to get back to normal here. I, I love it as well. And it's, it's hard scene with everything that you don't talking about when we were talking earlier to seeing the way the city is right now, everything's shut down.It's sad. Greg Gordon: Yeah. Michael Moore: It's a tough spot. We're in one other, a theme we like to hit on in this podcast guys is, you know, there's, we're kind of talking, this almost sounds like a. Something Zig Ziglar would say, it's, it's not what you know, it's who, you know, but I heard another one the other day that it's, it's not what you know, it's who knows you.And so, as you think about our audience of this podcast and letting people know who you are and what you stand for and what Gordon Highlander is and where it's headed, what would you want to tell him? Greg Gordon: That's a softball, right? Michael Moore: Lobbing Greg Gordon: it up, baby lob that went up to us, huh? Well, I will tell you, you know, the dress for success.I like to tell people now dress from success. Words Michael Moore: matter Greg Gordon: words matter, man. And what order you put them in? Do you know? Oh my gosh. That's so awesome. Well, hopefully the audience has listened if you haven't, you should go back because there's a lot of good nuggets in here, but if you're just catching this part, keep it up as out for Gordon Highlander.I don't know. I think there's big things on the horizon for us. I think we can be a national force. I'm excited about having a growth mindset. Just trying to help everyone in the organization, get to where they're supposed to be and [00:50:00] get the organization where it's supposed to be. So if you're in Dallas, Fort worth, we love you.We're not going anywhere. If you're in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and you need a good general contractor really close by. If there's a lot of industrial development in your future. We're more than just contractors. We understand the whole constellation around the deal, what it, what it, what it means to buy the land and build the building.We just think that because we know. What our customer goes through. That really helps us be the best general contractor out there. Who, again, if you want to play golf at Dallas national, you call RichieMichael Moore: that's Greg Gordon: perfect. Richie Greth: It's amazing to play golf and call it air quotes work Michael Moore: well with, with, with Jeff Bezos being one of our. Biggest podcast supporters will tell them to keep sending the work to Gordo. Greg Gordon: Yeah. Yeah. We signed an NDA, but we're not building his $10 billion clock or watch in the middle of the mountain over there or whatever the hell he's doing.But Richie Greth: thousand year clock, Greg Gordon: someone told me about that today. I don't even understand, but we'll build the warehouse all day long.What about you guys? How would you, how would you want your audience to know what you provide? How would you tell Gordon Highlander Michael Moore: from the standpoint of our podcast or how we make a living doing the podcast? Greg Gordon: Does the podcast point to your business or Michael Moore: no, that's not why we're doing this. I mean, it going back to.You know, the world essentially stopping for a minute and everybody resetting that's when Bob and I really started spending a lot of time on the phone, just looking for a creative outlet [00:52:00] and realizing that in our very own neighborhoods, whether it's in Chicago or Fort worth families, we're getting together again in the backyards and telling stories.And it was like, where did that go? I mean, Richie's been down to. My family's ranches. I don't even know how many times in the amount of stories that he's heard from my dad and my grandfather and times that I've spent with his dad. I mean, it's just that passage of knowledge is something that that's going away and we felt just motivated.Just say, no, stop that we're not letting it go away. We're going to get great people on our podcast with really interesting backgrounds. Defining moments and crossroads, and just bring those stories to life again. Greg Gordon: Do you know Donald Miller or D do you follow Story Brand at all? Michael Moore: I'm familiar with it, but I don't know it.Greg Gordon: I think we should invite him to Dallas national. All right. Let's all get our, our, desires together and let's, let's get someone on this podcast. It's out of our reach. Bob Wierema: Michael. And I've been talking about that. That's the goal. There's a couple, there's a couple ones out there that, you know, you, you think about it, it's like trying to get that reach out.And I said, I joked around with my buddies the other day about, they said, well, what are you going to do with this? Like, who are you trying to get on? I said, well, we've been wanting to hear all these. Stories, but we always kind of joke about, like I love talking to people like you guys cause it's relatable people.Right. And I said, but like at the end of the day, I said, the guy who like I've always loved and followed is Joe Rogan. I said, I'll hang it up. When I get Joe Rogan on the podcast, this he's the master of this. Right. Richie Greth: But that would be great. That would be great. Greg Gordon: Well, would it be cheating? We paid him. Bob Wierema: I don't think, I don't think we could do it enough after that big Spotify contract.Richie Greth: Right. Is he on cameo, Virginia?[00:54:00] Michael Moore: It needs a little pro bono work in his life now, you know, to give back, Bob Wierema: I mean, he's a big outdoors man. Like me. Maybe you can talk a little bow hunting on there, you know, just the Chicago boy that likes to bow hunt. I mean, come on. Greg Gordon: Wow. Michael Moore: Elk meat recipes. I mean, the guy's just, he's a Greg Gordon: beast. Dude. And he doesn't, Richie Greth: that's gotta be a narrow demographic from Chicago.Bob Wierema: There, there are not a lot. And, you know, you talk about, you know, these like funny stories. So when I met, when I met my now fiancé, if you could have only seen the face, the look on her face when I said yes, so I like to go hunting. She's like, well, what does that mean? I said, well, I. I bow hunt. She's like, well, what do you shoot?Michael Moore: It's Greg Gordon: like Bob Wierema: elk and deer. And she was just like, who is sky? Like what, what event is this in Chicago? I mean, you just don't have it here at all. There's, there's not a lot of people that are outdoors men here. And I live six blocks from my office right in the smack, a middle of downtown. And it's just been a huge passion of mine since I was a little kid.And you know, it's always be a part of my life. Richie Greth: Well, you need to get down to a, when the Miguelito's ranches, Sandy or Cedar Creek and go, go do some pig hunting nits. There there's some special places down there. Bob Wierema: And that's always interesting. I always look out for those invites and my phone never seems to fricking ring Michael Moore: well, you know, she's going to kind of see how this podcast goes and if it's successful, you know, we'll have a reunion down there.No, you never go. The invite is always out there. You know that, but go back to your question. I mean, I think, you know, what we want people to know is that this is just something we're doing from our hearts and we believe in it, it's important to us. We're having so much fun doing it, you know, and as it relates to what we do, I mean, a big part of, of Bob and I's job is, is the InsureTech [00:56:00] movement out there.I mean, you see the lemonade stock. Flying through the roof. You know, there's a lot of, of things that are trying to commoditize the insurance market. And, you know, our strong belief is that it's still a relationship people business. And so we're all about relationships we care Greg Gordon: and Michael Moore: this podcast, I mean, you've, you've gotta be in the moment for, you know, we're going on an hour plus now of really listening and being able to find that next question and to keep.The conversation going and taking it to maybe, you know, we've had several that have, we had one guy that got all teared up. I mean, you just don't know where the conversation's going to go, but if you're in the moment paying attention and giving a shit, it produces some amazing content. Richie Greth: For the record. I'm, I'm impressed.Gordo. Hasn't teared up. And I know he, I know he mentioned that, but that's part of his, you know, what tendencies, but, you know, I just gotta say, I love what you guys are doing. I love the storytelling aspect ever since you told me about it and hearing what you sent over. I think it's awesome. I mean, you know, storytellers and that.It's becoming a little bit of a loss brand then, and, and the lost touch with, with connecting with people. I mean, many years ago, I mean the most revered people in the tribe or the storytellers, you know, I mean, the people who gave the oral history and were able to relate, you know, the old, moral, the stories, et cetera.I think it's great what you guys were doing and very thankful to be a part of it. Michael Moore: I'm laughing because Bob Wierema: you talk about storytelling. Might this tell my dad the other day he goes, Oh yeah, that makes sense for you to go. He's like, you've been full of shit your whole life. Of course, you're going to do a plot.Yes. He's like, you got plenty of stories to share. Greg Gordon: Right? The other, the other connection that Richie and I [00:58:00] have is we love, I think one of the things that just marks really high up there. Our ability to laugh, learn our sense of humor and just having a good time together. And I see this connection, man. I don't know I'm going to do a good job my case here, but I think of joke telling is storytelling in a way.Absolutely. We kind of set up this story and then you like the way it are pulling the tablecloth out from underneath the table, you just let it, everyone know that it was actually rearranged a different way, and then you let them realize it, you know, And so Richie and I, I mean, dude, the other day, he, I think my dad called him to tell him a joke or he called my dad to tell my dad a joke.And then my dad told Richie that I never answer his phone calls anymore. So we made Richie call in on a three-way from Richie's phone and I answered the phone. And then I see my dad and tell him this.And then he was just like, I'll just leave it right there. Click you, hang out. Hey, hangs up the phone. And so, Yeah. I think our love of storytelling is it seems like it might be genetic. I haven't met Michael's dad, but I've heard lots and lots of stories. I think it's cool. If your dad can pants, you say that you were full of shit.That means. And he's probably a good storyteller too. Bob Wierema: He is, Greg Gordon: he definitely is. Richie's dad is a little bit like Lee Trevino. Like he comes right out with the story too. He's got them flying out. No Richie Greth: filter, no filter. The Bob Wierema: funny thing is I said to my dad the other day, I said, man, if you've gotten older though, like there's some stories here that were here and I'm not sure if they're real anymore.And he's telling one the other day and my [01:00:00] mom's looking at him. And she's like, I've never heard this story in 30 something years, you know? And she's like, I don't know where this is coming from. Richie Greth: You know, one thing my dad has a, has a propensity to do now is to merge like two or three Greg Gordon: stores. Richie Greth: And so it's like a hodgepodge it's like, you can just put it in my cocktail and hit the blender button.It's hilarious. Michael Moore: Well, I think that's just a sign of having so many good times. They just start all blending together. You Greg Gordon: know, Michael Moore: he's lived an amazing life. Well guys, you know, we're, we're coming on up over a little bit of an hour here. I can't. Thank you guys enough. And. We'd love to have you guys on again, see where Gordon Highlander creates total global domination.You know, again, Gordo, thank you for sharing the, the quote about storytelling is the language of the heart. Cause that's what this is all about, and we appreciate y'all telling your story today. Richie Greth: So is this first intermission or is this over? Michael Moore: We got Bob Wierema: to fill up our drinks. Greg Gordon: Yeah, it's actually my second set of twins an all day long Waterslide birthday party today.Wow. And so I am going to go change into my bathing suit. Well, Bob Wierema: there you go. Greg Gordon: I'll show you guys. I think this is the modern work attire, right? It's a dress shirt. Bob Wierema: Oh yeah. Greg Gordon: It was shorts. Bob Wierema: I thought you were going to show us the bathing suit. Greg Gordon: Yeah. Richie Greth: I just have dental flaws below the waist. There Michael Moore: you go.Newscasters have been doing it for years. Greg Gordon: Well, we appreciate you guys. I dunno, Michael, I'm happy for your success and. Great to meet you. Rich. Absolute love you [01:02:00] Richie Greth: guys. That was a blast. Michael Moore: Absolutely. Bob Wierema: Ton of fun. I'll hit you guys up for that Dallas Nashville invite. Don't worry. Probably coming here in August.Richie Greth: Okay, come on. Second half of August. We're shut down. First half and second half Bob Wierema: I'll play it. I'll plan it. I'll plan it a mic. Richie Greth: Yeah, you get to watch Bryson hit 400 yard drives on the practice. Tee. It's kind of fun. Bob Wierema: We'll make it happenfor sure.Michael Moore: We're all in. Thank you guys so much. Bob Wierema: You guys take care.Michael Moore: Thanks so much for tuning into this episode of the climb. If you enjoyed the episode. Please consider subscribing. And if you know someone who you would think would enjoy the podcast, feel free to share this with them. Thanks again. And we'll see you on the next episode. . 

Greg Gordon is a the Founder/Director at PYRAMIND.com, as well as a producer, educator, and entrepreneur. Greg has worked with HTC Vive, Microsoft Studios, Insomniac Games, SONY, Electronic Arts, Ubisoft, Disney, Blizzard, Zynga, Amazon, Samsung, HP, Nvidia, GoPro, LifeBeam, The Battery SF, Brandcast and many more. His music production credits include Rob Garza (Thievery Corporation), Giorgio Moroder, K Theory, Rain Phutureprimitive, The Bronx, Merl Saunders & Jerry Garcia (The Grateful Dead) and Rocker T & Joan Baez. In this episode, we discuss: Relationships Great Landlords Glee Club Early Days of Internet Audio Game Soundtracks The Letter I The History of Pyramind Downsizing Online Mentorship Links and Show Notes: Pyramind: https://pyramind.com/ Pyramind Studios: https://studios.pyramind.com/ Pyramind Online: https://online.pyramind.com/ Pyramind Records: www.pyramindrecords.com BAVC: https://bavc.org/ GoFundMe for Damion Gallegos: https://www.gofundme.com/f/damion039s-healing-fund WCA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/working_class_audio Support WCA - Go Ad-Free! https://glow.fm/workingclassaudio/ Connect with Matt on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattboudreau/ Current sponsors & promos: https://bit.ly/2WmKbFw Working Class Audio Journal: https://amzn.to/2GN67TP Credits: Guest: Greg Gordon Host: Matt Boudreau  WCA Theme Music: Cliff Truesdell  Announcer: Chuck Smith Editing: Anne-Marie Pleau & Matt Boudreau Additional Music: The License Lab

In this conversational canter through issue 16 of the magazine, host Daniel Gray is joined by Nutmeg Publisher Ally Palmer and the author and journalist James Morgan. They discuss the authentic beauty of Scottish football grounds, a promising coaching innovation and other issue 16 highlights. Plus, BBC man Giancarlo Rinaldi on the charisma of Palmerston Park, Ginny Clark on a Queen’s Park legend, Greg Gordon on the genius of Jocky Scott, Jon Spurling on a quiz show in which contestant Ian Ure was declared an ‘intellectual revelation’, and poetry from the marvellous Stephen Watt. Never read Nutmeg magazine? We have offers on back issues and subscriptions. See https://www.nutmegmagazine.co.uk/shopPlease help us make this podcast by joining Nutmeg FC on Patreon. Your money keeps us going and gets you some goodies: https://www.patreon.com/nutmegfcSupport the show (http://www.patreon.com/nutmegfc)

In this episode of the Make That Paper Podcast Jaime and Jason welcome via Facetime (hence some of the audio kinks) their good friends, Cooper Gillespie and Greg Gordon, also known as the rock band LANDROID (www.LandroidMusic.com). They discuss their life as Short Term Rental hosts in the High Desert (www.MojaveBeach.com), life as a married-to-each-other rock band, and their new single, which drops today.

Wow it's almost the end of 2019. After publishing a podcast every week this year, we're taking a break and enjoying the holidays. We’re also super hung over from last night’s Xmas party! So sit back, relax, and enjoy the final episode of Season 1 of Get Out and SURF with Joe Walsh, Niki Hurren, and Patrick McNulty. 50 episodes in 50 weeks… So what were some of our favorite episodes this year? - Episode 11: Mark Cunningham: Lifeguard, Bodysurfer, Artist - Episode 33: Great Lakes Surf Festival 2019 - Episode 49: Chicago Surfrider Foundation vs. US Steel with Mitch McNeil - Episode 36: 1 Motorcycle, 2 Surfboards, 3 Years and 10,000 Miles Special thanks to Ray Finley, Adam Greenman, Robert August, Bird Huffman, Sean Mattison, Pancho Sullivan, Peter Cole, Doug Cole, John Becker, Adrian Fernandez, Larry the Cheese, Frank Lemes, Gordon Beh, Andrea Diaz, Ryan Waldron, Paco Vega, Mike Clifford, Katie Rice, Happy Walsh, Kristen Brown, Andrew Cotton, Mitch McNeil, Eric Sharman, Jamie Bott, Grant McCartney, Amber Shaffer, Greg Gordon, all of the other guests that we had in 2019, and of course all of our listeners. Pura vida! We took some awesome surf trips in 2019. Here are the destinations we’ll be putting on the Wheel Of Waves for 2020: - Colombia - The Amazon River tidal bore - Sardinia - Cleveland - Hainan, China - Alaska - Nova Scotia - Kiribati - Brooklyn If you’re a surfer, you’re an environmentalist. Please join your local Surfrider Foundation. What is Season 2 going to look like? Tell us your thoughts. Email the podcast at getoutandsurfcr@gmail.com This podcast has been brought to you by Witch’s Rock Surf Camp in Tamarindo, Costa Rica https://witchsrocksurfcamp.com/

In this episode, hosts Chloe Corcoran and Michael Taylor Gray discuss the ongoing Supreme Court case regarding allowing employers to personnel for being LGBTQ, Democratic presidential candidate platforms, Bill Graham blames the LGBTQI community for the rise in heterosexual STI rates and more, all in the Honest Tea. Also, we... ...Have a chat with the pioneering professor, Karla Jay ...Straight woman who is a legendary gay ally Allison Arngrum ...Learn the history of IMRU Radio with Greg Gordon --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/imruradio/message

Pornsak Pichetshote edited other people's books for DC for years before he attempted to write his own. He didn't give himself an easy out. His first series, now collected as a graphic novel, is Infidel, a horror story that explores xenophobia. It's hard enough to do horror and politics well separately without trying to combine them in a graphic format, but Infidel is a complex and nuanced story that grounds its truly terrifying ghost story in a very real world. What really brings out these elements is the collaboration between Pichetshote and artist Aaron Campbell, whose imagery and inventive approach is the perfect compliment to the story. The characters in Infidel are not simple caricatures of racists. Pichetshote set the story in New York to put it in a more liberal environment, politically. The setting is an apartment building in the aftermath of a bombing, where distrust is running high. Aisha, a Muslim woman living in the building, is living not only with that xenophobia, but a more supernatural menace, as well. Her boyfriend's mother, Leslie, who didn't like her at first, seems to welcome her now, and tries to comfort her. But her boyfriend, Tom, is cutting his mother less slack than Aisha. Aisha's best friend, Medina, was also raised Muslim but the two share different views of their faith. The supernatural element parallels the xenophobic threat, and together, they make for a socially pointed story that is also truly scary. Pichetshote and Campbell address their collaboration and how they put these different elements together. And we also get a bit of news about the new Hellblazer, which Campbell is illustrating. He gives us a bit of insight about the upcoming book and how DC is bringing John Constantine back to his roots toward the end of the conversation. Pichetshote also worked on Two-Sentence Horror Stories for The CW, which is new this month on their streaming service, and some comics work that he was unable to get specific about just yet. Infidel is published by Image Comics, and you can find that at www.imagecomics.com and at booksellers and comic shops everywhere. Follow Pichetshote on Twitter under @real_pornsak and Campbell under @olmancampbell. This week's featured track is a song I heard just the day before I put this episode together, but it fits perfectly with the themes in Infidel. The song is “So Say We All” from Landroid's upcoming album, Imperial Dunes, which is coming out September 13th. Landroid is the duo of Cooper Gillespie, who sings and plays guitar and bass, and Greg Gordon, who handles drums and sequencing. In the press release, Gillespie identified the inspiration for “So Say Well All,” the opening track on the album. “‘So Say We All' was written in reaction to the current political climate where immigrants are demonized,” she says. “The message is that there is no such thing as race; we all belong to one race: the human race.” Not only does the message fit with Infidel, so does the music with its dark, throbbing synth backbone and dream-like lighter strings and keys floating over the top. Find out more about Landroid and pre-order Imperial Dunes at landroud.bandcamp.com.

Episode 28: Greg Gordon

Episode 28: Greg Gordon

The currently legal ability of obscenely rich people to bribe lawmakers and law enforcers is the source of many - if not all - of our political problems. In this episode, get an update on the few democracy-enhancing bills that have moved in this Congress and Jen speaks to Sam Fieldman - the National Counsel at Wolf-PAC - who explains how we can constitutionally end the role of money in politics by going around Congress. Joe Briney joins Jen for the thank you's. 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Article: Some Machines Are Flipping Votes, But That Doesn't Mean They're Rigged  by Pam Fessler, NPR, October 26, 2016. Document: 2012 REDMAP Summary Report  Redistricting Majority Project, January 4, 2013. Document: Report on Proper Use of Campaign Funds and Resources  Committee on Ethics, January 4, 2013. Document: Title 36 organizations  Every CRSRReport.com, June 17, 2011.  _____________________________________________________ Bill Outline H.R. 2722: SAFE Act Sponsor: Zoe Lofgren of northern California 74 pages Passed the House on June 27, 2019 225-184 Only GOP yes: Newbie Rep. Brian Mast - 38 year old wounded Afghanistan war veteran representing the Palm Beach area Went to the Committee on Rules and Administration in the Senate Title 1: Financial Support for Election Infrastructure Subtitle A: Voting System Security Improvement Grants Sec. 102: Paper ballot requirements “The voting system shall require the use of an individual, durable, voter-verified paper ballot of the voters’ vote that shall be marked and made available for inspection and verification by the voter before the voter’s vote is cast and counted, which shall be counted by hand or read by an optical character recognition device or other counting device." “The voting system shall provide the voter with an opportunity to correct any error on the paper ballot…” Recounts: The paper ballot “shall constitute the official ballot and shall be preserved and used as the official ballot for purposes any recount or audit conducted with respect to any election for Federal office in which the voting system is used.” Sec. 104: Durability and readability requirements for ballots Ballots must be on “durable” paper, which means it is capable of withstanding multiple recounts by hand without compromising the fundamental integrity of the ballots” and they must maintain readability for 22 months. Sec. 105: Recycled Paper Ballots must be printed on recycled paper starting on January 1, 2021. Sec. 107: These rules will apply “for any election for Federal office held in 2020 or any succeeding year.” Grandfathered equipment: Districts using machines that print paper ballots with the votes already tallied can use those machines until 2022, but they must offer every voter the opportunity to vote using a blank paper ballot, which are not allowed to be designated as provisional. Sec. 111:Grants for equipment changes Federal tax money will be given to states to replace their voting system, if needed. Grant amount: At least $1 per the average number of people who voted in the last two elections To use these grants, the states can only buy voting equipment from a vendor “owned and controlled by a citizen or permanent resident of the United States” The vendor must tell government officials if they get any part of their election infrastructure parts from outside the United States Authorizes (but doesn’t appropriate) $600 million for 2019 and $175 million for each even number election year through 2026 Subtitle B:Risk-Limiting Audits Sec. 121: Risk-limited audits required for all elections for Federal office State election officials will make the rules for how these will be done Sec. 122: Federal government will pay for audits Authorizes “such sums as are necessary” Title II: Promoting Cybersecurity Through Improvements in Election Administration Sec. 201: Voting system cybersecurity requirements Vote counting machine rules Machines that count ballots must be built so that "it’s mechanically impossible for the device to add or change the vote selections on a printed or market ballot” The device must be “capable of exporting its data (including vote tally data sets and cast vote records) in a machine-readable, open data standards format” The device’s software’s source code, system build tools, and compilation parameters must be given to certain Federal and State regulators and “may be shared by any entity to whom it has been provided… with independent experts for cybersecurity analysis.” The devise must have technology that allows “election officials, cybersecurity researchers, and voters to verify that the software running on the device was built from a specific, untampered version of the code” that was provided to Federal and State regulators. Loophole for moles: The Director of Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security can waive any of the requirements other than the first one that prohibits machines that can change votes. The waivers can be applied to a device for no more than two years. The waivers must be publicly available on the Internet. Not effective until November 2024 election. Ballot marking machines and vote counters can’t use or “be accessible by any wireless, power-line, or concealed communication device” or “connected to the Internet or any non-local computer system via telephone or other communication network at any time.” Effective for the 2020 general election and all elections after Ballot marking devices can’t be capable of counting votes States may submit applications to Federal regulators for testing and certification the accuracy of ballot marking machines, but they don’t have to. Sec. 202: Testing of existing voting systems 9 months before each regularly scheduled general election for Federal offices, “accredited laboratories” will test the voting system hardware and software with was certified for use in the most recent election. If the hardware and software fails the test, it “shall” be decertified. Effective for the 2020 General Election. Sec. 203: Requiring use of software and hardware for which information is disclosed by manufacturer “In the operation of voting systems in an election for Federal office, a State may only use software for which the manufacturer makes the source code… publicly available online under a license that grants a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual, sub-licensable license to all intellectual property rights in such source code…." …except that the manufacturer may prohibit people from using the software for commercial advantage or “private monetary compensation” that is unrelated to doing legitimate research. States “may not use a voting system in an election for Federal office unless the manufacture of the system publicly discloses online the identification of the hardware used to operate the system” If the voting system is not widely-used, the manufacture must make the design “publicly available online under a license that grants a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual, sub-licensable license to all intellectual property rights…” Effective for the 2020 General election Sec. 204: Poll books will be counted as part of voting systems for these regulations Effective January 1, 2020 Title III: Use of voting machines manufactured in the United States Sec. 301: Voting machines must be manufactured in the United States HR 391: White House Ethics Transparency Act of 2019 Pdf of the bill Reported June 12, 2019 out of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform 23-16 On January 28, 2017 - a week after taking office - President Trump issued an executive order that requires all executive agency appointees to sign and be contractually obligated to a pledge that… The appointee won’t lobby his/her former agency for 5 years after leaving Will not lobby the administration he/she previously worked for Will not, after leaving government, “engage in any activity on behalf of any foreign government or foreign political party which, were it undertaken on January 20, 2017, would require me to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938” Will not accept gifts from registered lobbyists Will recuse themselves from any matter involving their former employers for two years from the date of their appointment If the appointee was a lobbyist before entering government, that person will not work on any matter that they had lobbied for for 2 years after the appointment BUT Section 3 allows waivers: “The President or his designee may grant to any person a waiver of any restrictions contained in the pledge signed by such person.” Sec. 2: Requires any executive branch official who gets a waiver to submit a written copy to the Director of the Office of Government Ethics and make a written copy of the waiver available to the public on the website of the agency where the appointee works. Backdated to January 20, 2017 (President Trump’s inauguration) H.R. 745: Executive Branch Comprehensive Ethics Enforcement Act of 2019 Reported March 26, 2019 out of the Committee on Oversight and Reform 18-12 Pdf of the bill  Sec. 2: Creates a transition ethics program Requires the President-elect to give Congress a list of everyone in consideration for security clearance within 10 days of the applications submission and a list of everyone granted security clearance within 10 days of their approval. Requires the transition team to create and enforce an “ethics plan” that needs to describe the role of registered lobbyists on the transition team, the role of people registered as foreign agents, and which transition team members of sources of income which are not known by the public Transition team members must be prohibited by the ethics plan from working on matters where they have “personal financial conflicts of interest” during the transition and explain how they plan to address those conflicts of interest during the incoming administration. The transition team ethics plan must be publicly avail on the website of the General Services Administration Transition team members need to submit a list of all positions they have held outside the Federal Government for the previous 12 months -including paid and unpaid positions-, all sources of compensation that exceed $5,000 in the previous 12 months, and a list of policy issues worked on in their previous roles, a list of issues the team member will be recused from as part of the administration. Transition team members that do not comply will not be granted any access to the Federal department or agency that isn’t open to the public. S. 195 : Creates a transition ethics program: Access to Congressionally Mandated Reports Act Pdf of the bill   Reported 4/10/19 out of the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. On Senate Calendar Sec. 2: Definitions “Congressionally mandated report” means a report that is required to be submitted to Congress by a bill, resolution, or conference report that becomes law. Does NOT include reports required from 92 nonprofit corporations labeled as “Patriotic and National Organizations” (“Title 36 corporations”) Sec. 3: Website for reports 1 year after enactment, there needs to be a website “that allows the public to obtain electronic copies of all congressionally mandated reports in one place” If a Federal agency fails to submit a report, the website will tell us the information that is required by law and the date when the report was supposed to be submitted The government can’t charge a fee for access to the reports The reports can be redacted by the Federal agencies Resources Twitter Link: Rachel Maddow Twitter Link  Twitter. Employment Profile: Employment History for Richardson, Sean J OpenSecrets.org Employment Profile: Employment History for Jen Olson  OpenSecrets.org Email Link: Sam Fieldman Email at Wolf-PAC   PDF Email: Email with Eli Baumwell of the W.V. ACLU Volunteer Link: Volunteer for Wolf-PAC Resource Link: Article V Wolf-PAC Resource Link Documentary: Wolf Pac Documentary Congressional Dish Interview: Interview with Sam Fieldman from Wolf-PAC Preet Bharara Podcast: Taking Trump to Court (with David Cole) YouTube Video: Wolf PAC Call for Volunteers - Get Money Out of Politics! YouTube Video: Mike Monetta On Why Wolf-PAC Is Making A Movie YouTube Video: Wolf PAC Resolution Passes New Jersey Senate  YouTube Video: Fight Against Money In Politics: Cenk Uygur (Wolf-PAC Presentation) YouTube Video: Republican Vermont Representative Vicky Strong YouTube Video: Americans for Prosperity testify in New Jersey YouTube Video: Hawaii Senate Judiciary Hearing on 2018 SCR 76, Wolf-PAC YouTube Video: Cenk Uygur's Speech at The Conference to Restore the Republic YouTube Video: Article V Debate Document: Case Docket: Citizens United v. Fed. Election Comm'n Document: Brief by ACLU in support of Citizens United Document: Brief by former members of the ACLU in support of neither party Document: Essay on Term Limits Document: Article V of the US Constitution - Overview Document: Virginia Plan (First draft of the Constitution) Document: Full Text of Congressional Regulations on Article V Document: 1984 Version of Congressional Regulations on Article V Document: 1987 Version of Congressional Regulations on Article V  Document: Congressional Record Archive Copy of Congressional Regulations on Article V Document: The Fix It America Constitutional Amendment Document: Take Back our Republic Document: Role of Congress Document: American Promise 28th Amendment Document: United for the People Amendments Reference Website: Massachusetts Commission Govtrack: H.R. 2722 Document: H.R. 391 Document: H.R. 745 Document: H.R. 745 Document: H.R. 964 Document: S. 195   Sound Clip Sources Watch on C-Span: House floor debate on HR 2722 June 27,2019 sound clip transcripts pdf Watch on C-Span: William Barr Testifies on Mueller Report Before Senate Judiciary Committee May 1, 2019 1:57:55 Sen. Amy Klocuchar (MN): For the last two years, Senator Lankford and I, on a bipartisan bill with support from the ranking and the head of the intelligence committee; have been trying to get the Secure Elections Act passed. This would require backup paper ballots. If anyone gets federal funding for an election, it would require audits, um, and it would require better cooperation. Yet the White House, just as we were on the verge of getting a markup in the rules committee (getting it to the floor where I think we would get the vast majority of senators), the White House made calls to stop this. Were you aware of that? Attorney General William Barr: No. Sen. Amy Klocuchar (MN): Okay, well that happened. So what I would like to know from you as our nation’s chief law enforcement officer if you will work with Senator Lankford and I to get this bill done? Because otherwise we are not going to have any clout to get backup paper ballots if something goes wrong in this election. Attorney General William Barr: Well, I will… I will work with you, uh, to, uh, enhance the security of our election and I’ll take a look at what you’re proposing. I’m not familiar with it. Sen. Amy Klocuchar (MN): Okay. Well, it is the bipartisan bill. It has Senator Burr and Senator Warner. It’s support from Senator Graham was on the bill. Senator Harris is on the bill and the leads are Senator Lankford and myself, and it had significant support in the house as well. Hearing: Committee on Oversight and Reform:Strengthening Ethics Rules for the Executive Branch, February 6, 2019 Watch on Youtube *28:00 Rep Jordan (OH): 2013 we learned that the IRS targeted conservative for their political beliefs during the 2012 election cycle systematically for a sustained period of time. They went after people for their conservative beliefs, plan in place, targeted people. They did it. The gross abuse of power would have continued, if not for the efforts of this committee. 2014 the Obama Administration doubled down and attempted to use the IRS rule making process to gut the ability of social welfare organizations to participate in public debate. Congress has so far prevented this regulation from going into effect, but HR 1 would change that. Hearing: Judiciary Committee For The People Act Of 2019, January 29, 2019  Witness: Sherrilyn Ifill - President and Director-Counsel, NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Watch on YouTube 32:00 Sherrilyn Ifill: Well before the midterm election, in fact, Georgia officials began placing additional burdens on voters, particularly black and Latino voters, by closing precincts and purging. Over half a million people from the voter rolls the voter purge, which removed 107,000 people, simply because they did not vote in previous elections and respond to a mailing was overseen by the Republican candidate for governor Brian Kemp, who was also the secretary of state. LDF and a chorus of others called on him to recuse himself from participating in the election. But he refused.  ______________________________________________________ Community Suggestions See Community Suggestions HERE. Cover Art Design by Only Child Imaginations ______________________________________________________ Music Presented in This Episode Intro & Exit: Tired of Being Lied To by David Ippolito (found on Music Alley by mevio)

For over 20 years Greg Gordon has utilized CR Surf Travel Company to help surfers maximize their precious vacation time on their Costa Rican surf adventures. His weekly newsletters including surf reports and community updates share what’s going on both on the Pacific and Caribbean coasts. In this podcast we discuss the pros and cons of most every surf community and and wave in CR, crowds and how to avoid them, surf etiquette, surf schools, adventure traveling and Greg explains how surf tourism is different and which communities in CR are doing good and not so good environmentally speaking. I remember first seeing Greg’s surf report back in 1999 and I’ve been a fan ever since. So it was nice to have him in for a discussion and to talk all things Costa Rica. Click HERE to visit Greg’s website and check out a great deal of information about CR.    

Lisa Rae Black remembers her first experience with the desert as a visit to Grandpa's house - he lived in Morongo Valley. As a five-year old, she recalls jumping out of the back of her dad's 280Z, feeling like she'd landed on Mars. Fast forward about 50 years, Lisa inherited the property from her now deceased brother, Jim, who’d lived there for many years with his three thoroughbred horses.     Her grandfather purchased the property in1931 and built the 300 foot homestead in 1951.  In this episode, Lisa talks about the little bits of history that have come her way from her grandfather during the permitting and renovations process of the homestead.   Lisa's interest in the guitar began early. At five, she commandeered her brother's Christmas gift, a Snoopy guitar. She began taking lessons at age 12 and credits her instructor, himself an accomplished classic flamenco guitarist, with instilling the importance proper posture, timing/beats and scales. After discovering she could play some Chuck Berry guitar licks, she was ‘off to the races’.   Her neighbor, a drummer for their high school marching band and a local surf band, was her ride to school each day. Eventually, he joined forces with the lead singer of the stoner band in the same school – if you’re familiar with hair metal bands from the 80’s you’ll want to hear this story, which leads to another story of how Lisa got into her first band, The Pandoras, who got their first record deal after their first gig. Lisa says it all happened ‘too fast, too soon’ and admits she was too young to appreciate the opportunities. She says that while she’s worked with some successful names you’ll recognize, that level of notoriety never really manifested for her.   After having recorded a five-song EP with The Pandoras, Lisa stayed on at the studio for awhile, recording with Berlin, Social Distortion and was in many other LA bands including Helle's Belles, Hardly Dangerous, Feline and Bellylove, whose music was featured on the third season of  'Buffy the Vampire Slayer'.   Thinking her move to the desert had put her band days behind her, one Sunday, she and Paul were looking for something to do and headed up to this place they'd heard some local folks talk about called Pappy & Harriet’s.  There was a band playing some mellow tunes and when the band called the Security guy up on stage to sing, Lisa and Paul didn't know what to think. The band  launched into Led Zeppelin's 'Immigrant Song'. Afterward, Lisa immediately approached him about singing Sabbath covers and ‘Hammer of the Ozz’ was born with Security guy 'Big Dave Johnson' on vocals and local Landers resident and another accomplished musician, Greg Gordon, on drums.  The band is looking forward to recording at Rancho de la Luna in Joshua Tree in August 2019. Lisa and Paul have also formed a soul, funk band called ‘The LP’s’.   Photo: Sandra Goodin     Check out the bands:   www.hammeroftheozz.com   www.facebook.com/hammeroftheozz   www.facebook.com/thelpsofsoul

Greg and Joe go way back. They both drove to Costa Rica “back in the day” searching for an adventurous surfing life. Greg found his paradise in Dominical, located along Costa Rica’s southern Pacific coast. Listen in as Greg talks about some of the surf breaks, waterfalls, and wildlife found in the Dominical area. Also hear about other surf trips the guys have taken to far-off spots like Zanzibar, Jeffrey’s Bay, Northern California, Munich, and Amsterdam. And yes, those are howler monkeys you occasionally hear in the background! Witch’s Rock Surf Camp CRsurf.com 1% For The Planet Pretoma Shark and Sea Turtle Restoration Program

This week I sat down with Greg Gordon, the CEO and founder of Pyramind- a music production, video game composing and audio engineering school in San Francisco and online. He's a musician himself under the alias SolSage, and has worked with major names in Rock, Hip Hop, and Electronic Music. @2:00 how Greg got started making music and working in the industry@20:00 how San Francisco has changed since the tech boom 2.0@57:00 dispelling the myth that you don't need education for audio engineering@1:00:00 are large format consoles like Neve, SSL, Trident, etc completely dead? If you'd like an easy way to listen to new episodes and be notified of new episodes, follow us here:VEM iTunes: http://tinyurl.com/y2vr7lvqVEM Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/yddjof58VEM Soundcloud: https://tinyurl.com/y2yfs7o4VEM Stitcher: http://tinyurl.com/yy6cbaubVEM Podbean: https://scottbrio.podbean.com/Periscope: https://www.pscp.tv/ScottBrio/ Halcyon, San Francisco: http://www.halcyon-sf.com/main/

The Definitive Debunking of the Cohen-In-Prague Canard. For some weird reason, the Deep State cannot let go of Prague, and thus we smell desperation at the dark heart of SpyGate. We recap the claim from the bogus Steele Dossier that Trump advisor Michael Cohen visited Prague in 2016 to conspire with the Russians to defeat Hillary Clinton. It just so happens that Fusion GPS, Christopher Steele, Nellie Ohr and Glenn Simpson got The Wrong Cohen in their illicit searches of the NSA database. Whoops! But they used the information anyways, to bamboozle FISA judges and surveil the Trump Campaign. Later on, the fraudulent claims were used to initiate the Mueller Investigation and cause harm to President Trump in the arena of public opinion. As a case study in the construction and dissemination of Propaganda, we dismantle the latest recrudescence of Cohen-In-Prague as served up this week by Greg Gordon and Peter Stone of the McClatchy DC Bureau. Their anonymous sources who heard it from anonymous sources. We review the ongoing string of outright denials from Cohen's attorney Lanny Davis, and also from Michael Cohen himself. We survey the reporting of Greg Miller of The Washington Post, who has found zero evidence of Cohen-In-Prague. Further, we sample the MSNBC interview of McClatchy's Greg Gordon with a surprisingly skeptical Joy Reid. A total embarrassment to the journalistic profession. The mistakes made in and around the Prague linchpin reveal the methods, motives and wholesale corruption of America's Deep State. With Listener Calls & Music via REO Speedwagon, Sia, Frei Wild, George Harrison and Skeeter Davis.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Our guests discuss Issue 9 of Nutmeg magazine: Alan Pattullo tells the tale of war hero and Rangers legend Harry Davis, Greg Gordon talks opposition scouting and Archie Knox, and Andrew Jenkin recounts Jimmy Bone’s time managing Zambia. Hosted by Daniel Gray.Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/nutmegfc)

Working Class Audio #161 with Matt Donner!!! Matt Donner holds a Bachelor’s degree in Quantitative Business Analysis (Penn State) and a Masters in Music Technology (NYU). While developing his Producer and Engineering chops in NYC, he went on to perform for various TV studios and John Cale (Velvet Underground) that included 3 feature film scores. After signing his band to an indy record deal, his cross-country tour brought him to SF where the drummer exploded - how typical. Matt quickly found himself as Regional Technical Director for Guitar Center and the Pro Tools Support Lead for the Cutting Edge Audio Group.  There, he served as studio designer, installer and trainer for the likes of Joe Satriani, Metallica, Spearhead, Santana and the SF Jazz Fest as well as many private studios including Wally World (Walter A., N’Sync, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion). In January 2000, he and Greg Gordon began working together exclusively at Pyramind where they began running the hybrid Production/ Training businesses. Matt has served the company as Chief Engineer, Senior Producer/ Composer, Chief Technical Officer, Vice- President and now as CAO and COO. He helped grow the Pyramind Training program from a single 24 hour class to the highly-touted 900 hour 12-month Complete Producer. He has trained thousands of students, mixed/ mastered dozens of records and has published several magazine articles. Matt has also written two texts on Pro Tools (Thomson Press) as well as the Pyramind Training three-book series published (Alfred Publishing). He's best known now for his YouTube series "The Breakdown" on the channel "Pyratube". Matt currently lives in San Francisco and Davis, CA with his wife, two children and three dogs. He has trained in Mixed Martial Arts and Bak Mei Kung Fu for years and on good days, surfs the Pacific Ocean on his Al Merrick 6’ 2” fish. The Pacific usually wins. About this Interview: Matt talks with me about Pyramind and the three prong approach to preparing students for the real world of audio. We also discuss survival, failure, gear lust and work life balance amongst a few other key topics. I've known Matt Donner for 20 years and have great respect for him so it's an honor to have him on. Matt Show notes and links: Pyramind https://www.pyramind.com/ Zaor: http://www.zaor.de/ Zaor Speaker Stands I got: http://www.zaor.de/classic/monitor-stand/ Zaor Desk I got: http://www.zaor.de/classic/onda-mack/ Zaor Rack I got:  http://www.zaor.de/classic/rackspace/ Cutting Edge Audio Group: https://ceag.com/ Time to make the donuts commercial: https://youtu.be/1AA1XDqK8tY Matt Walker "Why We Sleep": https://goo.gl/zZQyEg

Welcome to 2018! We are kicking off the year with professional fitness trainer Nicole Duncan, sales rep. Brandon Sartain and insurance agent Greg Gordon. As always, the wonderful Frederick Taylor is running the board. We delve into the Logan Paul youtube video, underage professional athletes, Elon Musk and an elderly couple that was busted with 60 lbs. of marijuana.

We are still here hanging out with Nicole Duncan, Greg Gordon and Brandon Sartain letting it all hang out. Frederick Taylor also came to hang out and kept us up to date on our hot takes. Nicole Duncan, our fitness expert, gave us some advice on being healthier in the new year and setting up a fitness routine. We also spoke to Brandon Sartain about his audition for the role of a male stripper for the film Bad Moms Christmas. Come and let it all hang out with us!

Our guests discuss Issue 6 of Nutmeg magazine: Joris van de Vier, Alan Pattullo and Stuart Cosgrove talk about the dear old grounds of Scottish football, while Greg Gordon, Rob Webb and Dougie Wright debate the game’s use of statistics. Hosted by Daniel Gray.Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/nutmegfc)

Greg Gordon stops by to tell us his story on the path to success as an actor. https://www.laenthusiast.com/apartment-20-podcast-greg-gordon/

In 2012, Congress created a new government agency called FirstNet and tasked it with building a high-speed wireless network that would allow all first responders in the United States to communicate with each other daily and in times of emergencies. In July, FirstNet awarded AT&T with a 25 year contract to do the actual work. In this episode, hear highlights from a recent hearing about this new network as we examine the wisdom of contracting such an important part of our public safety infrastructure to the private sector. Please visit Podchaser.com to nominate your favorite Congressional Dish episode. Password: Patreon Please support Congressional Dish: Click here to contribute using credit card, debit card, PayPal, or Bitcoin Click here to support Congressional Dish for each episode via Patreon Mail Contributions to: 5753 Hwy 85 North #4576 Crestview, FL 32536 Thank you for supporting truly independent media! Additional Reading Article: PayPal, GoFundMe, And Patreon Banned A Bunch Of People Associated With The Alt-Right. Here's Why. by Blake Montgomery, Buzzfeed News, August 2, 2017. Article: U.S. Virgin Islands becomes first territory to 'opt-in' to FirstNet by Donny Jackson, Urgent Communications, August 1, 2017. Article: New Mexico becomes eighth state to 'opt in' to FirstNet by Donny Jackson, Urgent Communications, August 1, 2017. Article: FirstNet Becoming a Reality as the Number of States Opting in Grows to Seven by Adam Stone, GovTech, July 27, 2017. Interview: Executive Spotlight: Interview with Mike Leff, VP for Strategy and Operations for AT&T Global Public Sector by Andy Reed, Executive Biz, July 27, 2017. Article: AT&T in Early Talks With U.S. Officials for Time Warner Approval by David McLaughlin, Gerry Smith and Scott Moritz, Bloomberg, July 24, 2017. Article: FirstNet Gets its Teeth: Implications for Turf, Tech, and Tower Vendors by Daniel Vitulich, Wireless Week, July 21, 2017. Article: National Cell Network For First Responders Could Mean Better Coverage For Vermonters by Amy Kolb Noyes, VPR, July 14, 2017. Article: Some may be kept in the dark on future of public safety telecom by Dave Gram, VTDigger, July 9, 2017. Article: States Deserve A Complete Picture In Evaluating FirstNet/AT&T Coverage Plans by Al Catalano, Keller and Heckman LLP, Lexology, June 29, 2017. Article: Leidos and AT&T to Implement Software Defined Networking for the Defense Information Systems Agency by Leidos, PR Newswire, June 26, 2017. Article: State, Territory Plans and Next Step in FirstNet Build-Out Arrive Ahead of Schedule by Theo Douglas, GovTech, June 19, 2017. Report: FirstNet Has Made Progress Establishing the Network, but Should Address Stakeholder Concerns and Workforce Planning, U.S. Government Accountability Office, June 2017. Article: AT&T and Maxwell Air Force Base Pilot IoT Connected "Smart Base", AT&T Newsroom, April 4, 2017. Article: FirstNet Taps Telecom Giant AT&T for First Responder Network Buildout by News Staff, GovTech, March 30, 2017. Article: Incident Management Teams and FirstNet: A Perspective on the Future by Lesia Dickson, GovTech, January 26, 2017. Article: AT&T Powers NASA's Deep Space Network, AT&T Newsroom, December 14, 2016. Article: Wilbur Ross: From 'king of bankruptcy' to face of American business by Paul Davidson, USA Today, November 30, 2016. Article: AT&T and NASA Collaborate on Drone Traffic Management System, AT&T Newsroom, November 10, 2016. Article: AT&T Agrees to Buy Time Warner for $85.4 Billion by Michael J. de la Merced, The New York Times, October 22, 2016. Article: FirstNet Makes Progress, But Cost and Quality Concerns Remain by Colin Wood, GovTech, May 18, 2016. Website: AT&T's History of Invention and Breakups, The New York Times, February 13, 2016. Article: AT&T Completes Acquisition of DIRECTV, AT&T Newsroom, July 24, 2015. Article: FirstNet: Is Opting Out an Option? by Adam Stone, GovTech, November 17, 2014. Article: FirstNet Hires Friends, Skirts Competitive Bidding by Greg Gordon, McClatchy News Service, GovTech, September 26, 2014. Article: Millions in federal emergency communications funding lost, diverted by Greg Gordon, McClatchy DC Bureau, July 14, 2014. Article: How AT&T got busted up and pieced back together by Jose Pagliery, CNN, May 20, 2014. Article: FirstNet Explained by Tod Newcombie, GovTech, April 17, 2014. Article: FirstNet: Anwsers to Key Questions by David Raths, GovTech, October 10, 2012. Article: FirstNet Board Filled by Public Safety Officials, Telecom Execs by Sarah Rich, GovTech, August 20, 2012. Article: Communications Giant: The Deal; With Cable Deal, AT&T Makes Move to Regain Empire by Seth Schiesel, The New York Times, June 25, 1998. Article: Communications Bill Signed, And the Battles Begin Anew by Edmund Andrews, The New York Times, February 9, 1996. Article: Company News; AT&T Completes Deal To Buy NcCaw Cellular by Edmund Andrews, The New York Times, September 20, 1994. Article: AT&T Buying Computer Maker In Stock Deal Worth $7.4 Billion by Eben Shapiro, The New York Times, May 7, 1991. Article: U.S. Settles Phone Suit, Drops I.B.M. Case; AT&T to Split Up, Transforming Industry by Ernest Holsendolph, The New York Times, January 9, 1982. Article: No. 1 U.S. Utility Is Investor Favorite by Gene Smith, The New York Times, November 21, 1974. References Website: FirstNet FirstNet Board Members Website: National Telecommunications & Information Administration Offices GovTrack: H.R. 3630 (112th): Middle Class Tax Relief and Job Creation Act of 2012 House Vote Senate Vote Document: FirstNet Partnership Factsheet Infoplease: Top 50 Cities in the U.S. by Population and Rank YouTube: Patreon CEO on Content Policy, Lauren Southern, and IGD YouTube: Lauren Southern: Patreon Banned My Account?? Visual References Image Source Image Source Image Source Sound Clip Sources Hearing: National Public Safety Network; Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Subcommittee on Communications; July 20, 2017. Witnesses: Curtis Brown: Virginia Deputy Secretary of Public Safety & Homeland Security Dr. Damon Darsey: University of Mississippi Medical Center Professor Mark Goldstein: GAO Physical Infrastructure Issues Director Chris Sambar: AT&T FirstNet, Senior Vice President Michael Poth: FirstNet CEO Timestamps & Transcripts 1:10 Sen. Roger Wicker (MS): In 2012 Congress created the First Responder Network Authority to lead the development of a nationwide interoperable public-safety broadband network in the United States. Following the communication’s failures that plagued recovery efforts during 9/11 and other national emergencies, including Hurricane Katrina, there was and still is a clear need for a reliable communications network to support the essential work of our public-safety officials. Such a network would improve coordination among first responders across multiple jurisdictions and enhance the ability of first responders to provide lifesaving emergency services quickly. 6:37 Sen. Brian Schatz (HI): With FirstNet, firefighters will be able to download the blueprint of a burning building before they enter; a police officer arriving at a scene can run a background check or get pictures of a suspect by accessing a federal law enforcement database; most importantly, emergency personnel will not be competing with commercial users for bandwidth. They will have priority on this network, which will be built and hardened to public-safety specifications. It will have rugged eyes and competitive devices and specify public-safety applications. 9:40 Curtis Brown: Last week the governor was proud to announce that Virginia was the first state in the nation to opt in to FirstNet. Virginia opted in to provide current AT&T public-safety subscribers with the benefit of priority services now at no cost to the Commonwealth, as well as the green light to build out of Virginia’s portion of the national public-safety broadband network. We believe that decision to opt in will promote competition within the public-safety communications marketplace, that will reduce costs and drive innovation across all carriers. Opting out was _____(00:31-verily) considered, but the unknown cost and risk associated with deploying and operating a network was not feasible. 19:45 Mark Goldstein: In March 2017 FirstNet awarded a 25-year contract to AT&T to build, operate, and maintain the network. FirstNet’s oversight of AT&T’s performance is very important, given the scope of the network and the duration of the contract. Among GAO’s findings in the report are the following: first, FirstNet has conducted key efforts to establish the network, namely releasing the requests for proposal for the network and awarding the network contract to AT&T. As the contractor, AT&T will be responsible for the overall design, development, production, operation, and evolution of the network. 24:35 Chris Sambar: The AT&T team that I lead is dedicated exclusively to FirstNet. I expect this group to grow to several-hundred employees by this year’s end as we hire people across the country with a broad range of skill sets to help us ramp up our network build out. Overall, AT&T expects to spend $40 billion over the lifetime of this contract and to build an operating unique, nationwide, interoperable, IP-based, high-speed mobile network, encrypted at its core, that will provide first responders priority, primary users with preemption and all other users during times of emergency and network congestion. The First Responder Network will be connected to and leverage off AT&T’s world-class telecommunications platform, valued at nearly $180 billion, including a wireless network that reaches 99.6% of the U.S. population. In addition, AT&T will support first responders 24 by 7 by 365 with a dedicated security-operation center and help desk. We will provide first responders with a highly secure application ecosystem as well as a highly competitive flexible pricing on equipment and services that they select for their unique needs. One of the most important resources that AT&T brings to bear on the new First Responder Network is our best-in-class national disaster-recovery team. We have spent more than a 130,000 working hours on field exercises and disaster-recovery deployments over the last two decades. This team combines network infrastructure, support trailers, recovery engineering-software applications, and boots on the ground filled by full-time and volunteer AT&T disaster-response team members. In order to support the First Responder Network, AT&T will increase its disaster-recovery fleet by adding 72 new custom-designed vehicles, just for the FirstNet mission. 26:55 Chris Sambar: Possibilities include near real-time information on traffic conditions, which can help determine the best route to an emergency for a first responder; wearable sensors and cameras for police and firefighters to help give them better situational awareness and camera-equipped drones and robots that will be able to deliver real-time imagery. Our FirstNet efforts are expected to create 10,000 U.S. jobs over the next two years as well as significant public-private infrastructure investment. 30:25 Michael Poth: We’ve created and delivered state plans on June 19 to 50 states, two territories, and the District of Columbia three months ahead of schedule, and as mentioned, the five governors from five great states have already opted in. None of this could be possible, though, without the public-private framework that Congress established for the FirstNet network, by leveraging private-sector resources, infrastructure, cost savings, public-private partner synergies to deploy, operate, and maintain the system. FirstNet can be now deployed quickly, efficiently, and cost effectively. 36:10 Sen. Roger Wicker (MS): Dr. Darsey mentioned that the Mississsippi wireless communications commission has expressed concerns about FirstNet’s commitment to hardening the network. You mentioned this in your testimony, the need for FirstNet infrastructure to be hardened. Can you discuss why that’s important, and is it more important in the rural areas, and also, in your experience, how do broadband needs differ between urban and rural communities with respect to providing emergency medical services? Dr. Damon Darsey: Sure. Thanks for the question. I’ll give you an example. Couple years ago we had a tornado, as you well remember, that took out a hospital in the northeast part of our state. And the medical center has got a pretty robust program to respond to that, and we did. The challenge in that was it took out a couple of commercial towers, but it did not, after a fairly close hit, take out one of our hardened public-safety communication towers. What that did for us is we lost all ability to communicate data out of that area, which was vital in moving and evacuating the hospital, nursing home, and recovering the people that were there. That’s the piece that is the concern that I think we share, all of us here, of how do we make that as hardened as possible. In terms of rural and urban, from a medical perspective we can do a lot more, as our team is showing in Mississippi and other states, if we know about the patient well before they get close to a hospital. If we can reach out and touch the stroke patient in the middle of the Mississippi Delta, we can dramatically increase their chances of survival and meaningful use after arrival to the hospital. Currently, we’re doing that over radio, and it’s working really well, but now imagine that in the rural areas. In urban areas, it’s vital in the medical world, but here we’re five minutes from multiple hospitals. Now take that as a 45 or 50 minutes away, and what we can do with broadband data in that time is truly life saving and saving of healthcare dollars. There’s a nexus here that FirstNet can combine both of those. 41:00 Michael Poth: Numerous bids were in, and they were analyzed with a great level of detail, and through that process that the Department of Interior assisted us with as the acquisition experts, AT&T came out as the prevailing solution and prevailing company provider. Sen. Bill Nelson (FL): The question is why. Poth: Well, the value that they’re bringing with their existing infrastructure, their ability and size, their financial sustainability to be able to take on something of this nature, and their lowest-risk approach to implementing this in the shortest time was truly some of the value propositions that made them more competitive than some of the other bids that were analyzed. 42:13 Chris Sambar: The initial RFP that FirstNet released contemplated building out a public-safety broadband network using just band class 14, and we responded accordingly. But through discussions, we decided we would extend it beyond just the band class 14, which is the spectrum that was allocated for first responders in 2012. We said we would open up all of the spectrum bands within AT&T. So, essentially, what that means is the day that a state opts in, they have immediate access to AT&T’s entire network, all spectrum bands, and they will see the benefits of FirstNet on all spectrum bands, all wireless towers, from AT&T that are LTE enabled. So I think that’s a tremendous benefit that FirstNet was not expecting when they contemplated the original RFP. But when we brought that, I think they were very pleased with that, and that helped us. Sen. Bill Nelson (FL): So, you’re going to have a level playing field for all device manufacturers. Sambar: Absolutely, sir. 43:15 Sen. Bill Nelson (FL): There must have been some folks in Virginia that suggested that you opt out of the network and chart your own path. Tell me the benefits to Virginia’s first responders of the governor’s decision to opt in. Curtis Brown: Thank you, Senator. The decision to opt in was really based on looking at the benefits that comes with opt in, the immediate priority and preemption services that would come for those who are subscribers to the network. And a major thing, Senator, is to the fact that it comes at no cost to the Commonwealth. We have been disproportionately impacted by sequestration and other aspects—the governor had to close a 300-million-dollar budget deficit—and so looking at the cost it would take to build a network and sustain it, it just was not feasible. 47:45 Chris Sambar: We initially envisioned, when we launched the State Plan portal on June 19, that we would have roughly 50 user IDs and passwords per state. That would be 50 individuals who would access the portal. We immediately got feedback that states wanted more, and we are offering more. So, we have a state right now, as a matter of fact, 227 login and user IDs have been issued. So, it shouldn’t be an issue for a state if they have additional people. The only requirements we have, Senator, is that, as Mr. Poth said, that it’s an official email address, somebody in the state who works for the state— Unknown Senator: Right. Sambar: —or an authorized consultant. Either of those is fine. We just don’t want, like, a @gmail, @hotmail, someone that we don’t know who they are. Unknown Senator: Right, okay. 53:14 Michael Poth: How do the states hold us accountable? As FirstNet shifts gears from developing a proposal and making an award, for the next 25 years we are going to be in a position to work with the states, continuous and public safety in all of those states, to make sure that all of their expectations, both from the State Plans and in the future, are being met and translated. If appropriate, we back into contractual actionable items. Or if AT&T, for example, is not meeting the requirements or the expectations, FirstNet will, on behalf of public safety and those states, enforce the terms of the contract. 54:55 Michael Poth: Canada is using the same exact spectrum that we’ll be utilizing with AT&T, so there’s a lot of synergies. We’ve spent a great deal of time coordinating and comparing notes with Canada and the public-safety entities in that country as to what we’re doing so that there is the inoperability between the countries will also be realized. 1:08:50 Chris Sambar: So we have had a number of states as well as federal agencies we’ve been in communication with, and some of the states have been very direct that they’re interested us putting our LTE equipment on state-, city-, municipal-owned assets. That would give them the benefit of revenue from AT&T through a lease agreement. It would also give us a benefit of being able to build out the network faster. 1:24:20 Michael Poth: AT&T’s already been doing this, as mentioned, for years with their fleet of 700 deployables. Now with the 72 dedicated, which are much smaller units which is going to give us the ability to maybe get those into areas that are a little tougher to get to, we’re very excited about that. That is an absolute addition to the solution that we’re going to be able to bring to public safety quickly. 1:25:50 Chris Sambar: So, we will be building out band class 14 over the coming five years across a significant portion of our network. In the meantime, before band class 14 is built out, we will be using our commercial network. There are requirements in the contract with FirstNet over how quickly we need to build out band class 14, and we have to hit those milestones in order to receive the payments due to us from FirstNet. If we don’t hit those milestones, we don’t receive the payments, so we will be aggressively building out band class 14 for first responders. Again, in the meantime, they will have access to all of AT&T’s bands. So to say it simply, if you are a first responder, Senator, you will not know whether you’re on band class 14 or any other AT&T band, but you will have the exact same experience regardless of what band you are on on AT&T network. Sen. Roger Wicker (MS): Your position isn’t the service that’s provided, and the consumer and the public-safety user, to them it will be immaterial where it’s coming from. Sambar: The way I like to say— Exactly. The way I say it is this: public safety has been told for many years that the magic of FirstNet happens on band class 14, and we’ve changed that. That’s not correct anymore. The magic happens on the AT&T network period, and it doesn’t matter where you are, you’re going to have the exact same experience. So we’ve extended it far beyond the band class 14 to our entire network. Wicker: Will you build out the class 14 spectrum only where it is economically viable, or will you build it out where there is written requirement in the arrangement between you and FirstNet? Sambar: We are building band class 14 where we need the capacity in our network. So in order to provide priority and preemptive services to first responders and have enough capacity for everyone that’s on the network, including the first responders, there are places where we will need additional capacity; that’s where we’re building— Wicker: And you will determine that need. Sambar: AT&T, based on capacity triggers—obviously, we’ve been doing this for a long time—based on capacity triggers that we see in the network, we build out band class 14 as additional capacity on individual—and this is done on a tower-by-tower basis. 1:28:00 Sen. Roger Wicker (MS): Are you able to say what approximate percentage of the lower 48 landmass will be covered by band class 14 build out? Chris Sambar: Unfortunately, I am not, Senator. That’s proprietary between FirstNet and AT&T. I would say, again, it’s a significant portion, though. Wicker: Can you be more specific than “significant”? Sambar: That would be proprietary, Senator. I apologize. Wicker: And what makes it proprietary? Sambar: The specific details of the contract between FirstNet and AT&T. There’s a number of specific details that are proprietary, Senator. Wicker: That is proprietary and not available to the public— Sambar: That’s correct, Senator. Wicker: —or to the Congress. Sambar: That’s correct, Senator. 1:29:35 Sen. Roger Wicker: Then in terms of this coverage, which you said really shouldn’t matter what band it’s coming over— Chris Sambar: Mm-hmm. Wicker: —are you able to say what percentage of the lower 48 landmass will be covered in one way or the other? Sambar: One way or the other? Wicker: Yes. Apart, of course, from the deployables. Sambar: So, 99.6% of the U.S. population will be covered by AT&T’s network. 1:39:05 Chris Sambar: The vast major—as we understand it, based on our research and FirstNet’s research—the vast majority of firefighters, for example, are not issued devices for their daily use at work, especially volunteer firefighters. Greater than 70% of police officers are in the same situation: they are not provided a device. They’re using their personal devices. We are going to make available the FirstNet network to all of those first responders, regardless of whether you’re a volunteer, whether your agency provides you a device, or whether you bring your own personal device. They will have access to the FirstNet network. Once we can verify their credentials and ensure that we have the right people on the network, they will have access to all of those features and benefits, and it will come at a significantly lower price than they’re paying today for their personal or commercial service. So it’s a tremendous benefit to all first responders. 1:39:55 Sen. Roger Wicker (MS): On user fees, will they cost the same for all network users, or will they vary by regions, public-safety agencies, or states? Chris Sambar: It’s difficult to answer because there are different use cases, so it depends. If you’re a large department and you want unlimited data and you have a number of applications that you want preinstalled on the device and you have mobile-device management software, that would be one use case. There may be a rural department that wants to connect body cameras and dashboard video camera from a police department. It will depend on the use case. Wicker: So it’s use case and not regions and states. Sambar: That’s correct, sir. Wicker: That would be the variable. Sambar: That’s correct. Hearing: Public Safety Communications; House Committee Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet, September 29, 2005. Witnesses: David Boyd: Homeland Security Dept SAFECOM Program Director Timothy Roemer: Member of the 9/11 Commission, Director of the Center for National Policy Art Botterell: Emergency Information Consultant Timestamps & Transcripts 30:44 David Boyd: Interoperability’s not a new issue. It was a problem in Washington, D.C. when the Air Florida flight crashed into the Potomac in 1982, in New York City when the Twin Towers were first attacked in 1993, in 1995 when the Murrah Building was destroyed in Oklahoma City, and in 1999 at Columbine. Too many public-safety personnel cannot communicate by radio, because their equipment is still incompatible, or the frequencies they are assigned to are different and they haven’t got bridging technologies available. They operate on 10 different frequency bands, and they run communication systems that are often proprietary and too often 30 or more years old. Over 90% of the nation’s public-safety wireless infrastructure is financed, owned, operated, and maintained by the more than 60,000 individual local jurisdictions—police, fire, and emergency services—that serve the public. 1:43:00 Timothy Roemer: Let me give you a couple examples of what the 9/11 Commission found as to some of these problems. We found all kinds of compelling instances of bravery and courage, people going into burning buildings and rescuing people. They might have rescued more. We might have saved more of the fire department chiefs, officers, police officers, emergency personnel, if they would have had public-radio spectrum to better communicate. At 9:59 in the morning on 9/11 four years ago, a general evacuation order was given to firefighters in the North Tower. The South Tower had collapsed. A place that held up to 25,000 people had been diminished to cement, steel, and ash. The people, then, in the North Tower, many of the chiefs in the lobby, didn’t even know that the other tower had collapsed, or else they might have been able to get more people out more quickly. We had comments from people saying such things as, we didn’t know it had collapsed. Somebody actually said, Mr. Chairman, that people watching TV had more information than we did in the lobby on 9/11 in the North Tower. People on TV in Florida or California knew more than our first responders on site in New York City. 1:45:10 Timothy Roemer: Mr. Chairman, then we had a disaster happen in the southern part of our country in New Orleans where we had other communication problems. In New Orleans, there’re three neighboring parishes were using different equipment on different frequencies. They couldn’t communicate. We had National Guard in Mississippi communicating by human courier, not by radio frequencies; and we had helicopters up in the air looking at our own citizens on the roofs of their homes in New Orleans, screaming and yelling for help, but they couldn’t talk in the helicopters with the boats in the water to try to find out who was rescued, who wasn’t, and who needed help. 1:55:45 Art Botterell: Third, we can no longer afford to rely on vendor-driven design of our emergency-communications infrastructure. Businesses are responsible for maximizing shareholder value, not for protecting the public welfare. We need independent sources of information and planning for our future emergency infrastructure lest we continue to get updated versions of the same old thing. Music Presented in This Episode Intro & Exit: Tired of Being Lied To by David Ippolito (found on Music Alley by mevio) Cover Art Design by Only Child Imaginations

This week we are featuring a special event hosted by Pyramind studios based in San Francisco who hosted a panel on VR Sound Design. This panel was moderated by Greg Gordon, CEO and Creative Director of Pyramind and included Sharosh Khuwaja from Subpac, Kevin Bolen from Skywalker Sound, David Grunzweig from Dysonics and Brennan Anderson from Pyramind. You can find out more about Pyramind's music production school and creative studio services at www.pyramind.com This podcast is brought to you in part by RØDE Microphones – providing premium audio products at an accessible price, enabling people around the world to achieve their creative goals. With mics for studio, video-recording and podcasting; you’re bound to find the mic you need. To find out more visit www.rode.com

Jaime Jay welcomes Greg Gordon to the show. Greg share’s his story of success beginning with Boy Scouts to college to successful entrepreneur. Greg has learned since the young age of being a Boy Scout that you learn more from making mistakes than from getting things right. Thank you to Alexis Ayala, for providing the incredible editing for this episode. If you need to find an audio editor, send Alexis an email at lex@slapshotstudio.com. Thank you to our awesome sponsor, Interview Valet, A professional concierge guest booking podcast service for hosts and guests - You be the Guest, We do the Rest! Check out their new website at InterviewValet.com. This episode of Stop Riding the Pine Podcast was brought to you by DoneForYouWP.com Are you a busy coach, professional or agency looking to have your WordPress website headaches handled by your very own development team for wholesale prices? Then you should visit DoneForYouWP.com to find the solution that best fits your current challenges with a full-scale approach to managing your WordPress website. Stop Riding the Pine is a lot of fun and we love sharing the shows we've done. We would greatly appreciate your assistance in helping us grow this show by not only downloading the episodes, but also sharing them. Leave comments and rate our show so we can make the show even better.

In July, the House of Representatives unanimously passed a bill that would allow expiring anthrax vaccines to be given to civilian emergency responders within the United States. The question: Is that vaccine safe? In this episode, we look at the history of the anthrax vaccine and the results of the investigation into the only anthrax attack on the United States: The anthrax laced letters which were mailed to members of the mainstream media and Congress in September and October 2001. Last, an update on the current security of the United States' anthrax supplies. Warning: This episode contains disturbing information. Please support Congressional Dish: Click here to contribute with PayPal or Bitcoin; click the PayPal "Make it Monthly" checkbox to create a monthly subscription Click here to support Congressional Dish for each episode via Patreon Mail Contributions to: 5753 Hwy 85 North #4576 Crestview, FL 32536 Thank you for supporting truly independent media! The Bill H.R. 1300: First Responder Anthrax Preparedness Act Summary: Republican Policy Committee Legislative Digest for Wednesday, July 29, 2015. Creates a program for distributing anthrax vaccines that will soon expire to emergency responders who volunteer to accept them. Creates a program for tracking the vaccines. Creates a two year pilot program, in at least two states, for distributing the vaccines. Passed the House of Representatives 424-0 Sponsored by Rep. Peter King of New York 6 Pages Additional Reading Anthrax Vaccine Website: What is BioThrax (Anthrax Vaccine Adsorbed), Emergent BioSolutions. Article: Experimental Drugs Linked to Gulf War Veteran's Ills by Warren Leary, New York Times, May 7, 1994. Article: The Anthrax Vaccine Scandal by Laura Rozen, Salon, October 14, 2001. Report: Biological Warfare and Anthrax Vaccine by Barbara Loe Fisher, National Vaccine Information Center, December 2001. Article: Gulf War Vaccine Still a Problem, Leading Scientist Tells Inquiry by Michael Smith, The Telegraph, August 12, 2004. FDA Document: The safety and efficacy of anthrax vaccine have not been estabilished, and the preponderance of the world's literature show the vaccine is unsafe, and a contributor to Gulf War Syndrome as acknowledged in the vaccine's package insert by Meryl Nass MD, December 29, 2004. Report: Anthrax Vaccine and Public Health Policy by Martin Meyer Weiss, MD, Peter D. Weiss, MD, and Joseph B. Weiss, MD, American Journal of Public Health, November 2007. Article: Gulf War Illness: Thousands Still Report Symptoms by Diana Washington Valdez, El Paso Times (republished on Military.com), April 21, 2014. Report: The Project BioShield Act: Issues for the 113th Congress by Frank Gottron, Congressional Research Service, June 18, 2014. Report: Emergent BioSolutions 2014 Annual Report Website: Emergent BioSolutions Lobbying, OpenSecrets.org Website: Emergent BioSolutions Lobbyists, OpenSecrets.org 2001 Anthrax Attacks Article: U.S. Germ Warfare Research Pushes Treaty Limits by Judith Miller, Stephen Engelberg, and William J. Broad, New York Times, September 4, 2001. Article: The Anthrax War by the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board, Wall Street Journal and R. James Woolsey (reprinted by Free Republic), October 17, 2001. Article: Public Enemy No. 2 by Richard Cohen, Washington Post, October 18, 2001. Article: Who Made the Anthrax? by Richard Butler, New York Times, October 18, 2001. Article: Anthrax Bacteria Likely to be US Military Strain by Debora MacKenzie, New Scientist, October 24, 2001. Article: F.B.I. Presents Anthrax Case, Saying Scientist Acted Alone by Scott Shane and Eric Lichtblau, New York Times, August 6, 2008. Article: Scientist Officially Exonerated in Anthrax Attacks by Eric Lichtblau, New York Times, August 8, 2008. Department of Justice Report: Amerithrax Investigative Summary, U.S. Department of Justice, February 19, 2010. Press Release: Justice Department and FBI Announce Formal Conclusion of Investigation into 2001 Anthrax Attacks, U.S. Department of Justice, February 19, 2010. F.B.I. Document Directory: Amerithrax or Anthrax Investigation Article: Timeline: How the Anthrax Terror Unfolded, NPR, February 15, 2011. Article: Anthrax Redux: Did the Feds Nab the Wrong Guy? by Noah Shachtman, Wired, March 24, 2011. Article: The Anthrax Scare: Not a Germ of Truth by Nicholaus Mills, The Guardian, September 15, 2011. Article: New Evidence Adds Doubt to FBI's Case Against Anthrax Suspect by Stephen Engelberg of ProPublica, Greg Gordon of McClatchy, Jim Gilmore and Mike Wiser of PBS Frontline, October 10, 2011. Article: Did Bruce Ivins Hide Attack Anthrax From the FBI? by Stephen Engelberg of ProPublica, Greg Gordon of McClatchy, Jim Gilmore and Mike Wiser of PBS Frontline, October 10, 2011. GAO Report: Agency Approaches to Validation and Statistical Analyses Could be Improved, Government Accountability Office, December 2014. Article: FBI's 2001 Anthrax Attack Probe Was Seriously Flawed by Rebecca Trager, Scientific American, December 29, 2014. Article: Anthrax Fast Facts, CNN, May 23, 2015. The Patriot Act Article: Anti-Terrorism Bill Hits Snag on the Hill by John Lancaster, The Washington Post, October 3, 2001. Article: Congress Had No Time to Read the USA Patriot Act by Paul Blumenthal, Sunlight Foundation, March 2, 2009. Live Anthrax Shipments Article: Our Bad: Pentagon Mails Live Anthrax in Error by Paul Shinkman, US News & World Report, May 27, 2015. Article: Pentagon Now Says Army Mistakenly Sent Live Anthrax to All 50 States by Richard Sisk, Military.com, September 1, 2015. Audio/Video Sources Press Conference: Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program, Department of Defense, (broadcast on C-SPAN), June 28, 2002. Press Conference with Dr. Steven Hatfill: Anthrax Investigation, C-SPAN, August 25, 2002. United Nations Security Council Meeting: Iraqi Weapons Compliance Debate, United Nations Security Council (broadcast on C-SPAN), February 5, 2003. Hearing: Federal Bureau of Investigation Oversight, House Judiciary Committee (broadcast on C-SPAN), September 16, 2008. Hearing: Federal Bureau of Investigation Oversight, Senate Judiciary Committee (broadcast on C-SPAN), September 17, 2008. YouTube: Ron Paul Patriot Act NOBODY READ IT!, uploaded July 7, 2009. Press Conference: Report on 2001 Anthrax Letters, National Academy of Sciences (broadcast on C-SPAN), February 15, 2011. Television Episode: The Anthrax Files by PBS Frontline, October 11, 2011. Hearing: Defense Department Anthrax Shipments, House Energy & Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations (broadcast on C-SPAN), July 28, 2015. Music Presented in This Episode Intro & Exit: Tired of Being Lied To by David Ippolito (found on Music Alley by mevio)

Greg Gordon, the owner of Dog Patch Pet and Feed a pet store that sold commercially bred puppies, and the Cari Meyers founder of The Puppy Mill Project an anti puppy mill organization stopped yelling at each other and learned they had something in common. Now Dog Patch Pet is a humane pet store proudly stating on the home page of its website "We are a new type of pet store that matches rescues with forever home." In this episode of Max A Pooch's Awesome Animal Advocates Gordon discusses how he made the change and why the model works for him. This is a must hear episode for those who are against the sale of commercially bred puppies by pet stores, and pet store owners who are looking for a new business model that gains them lauds instead of criticism and demonstrations. Questions or Comments? Email Max A Pooch: maxapooch@petliferadio.com More details on this episode MP3 Podcast - Dog Patch Pet and Feed Matching Rescues with Forever Homes on Pet Life Radio

Today we featured some innovative food entrepreneurs. We opened with Greg Gordon with The Food Movement. Then Sue Sullivan expalined why The Hot Squeeze is the condiment of choice around town. And we closed the show with Tom McEachern from Ray's on the River. A special shout out to our new sponsor – the Business Marketing Association – Atlanta Chapter.  Please go to their website to register for their monthly events www.bmaatlanta.com/events/. Also . . . if you know of a business in Atlanta that we should know about, please email Amy Otto at Amy@ atlantabusinessradio.com and we’ll invite them to appear on the show.

Greg Gordon the founder of SermonIndex.net comes on to talk about the importance of Prayer, Revival and Evangelism. Be sure to check out the amazing archive of solid, biblical sermons on SermonIndex.net

Greg Gordon the founder of SermonIndex.net comes on to talk about the importance of Prayer, Revival and Evangelism. Be sure to check out the amazing archive of solid, biblical sermons on SermonIndex.net